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Let them type how they want to type. Does it even matter? If someone wants to enter a discussion, don't police how they talk. That's really dumb. If an emoji or no capitalization triggers
you or other users, that's a little sad. Its an open board. We don't need any kind of membership and some people google and find them while looking for a lot of the subject's information or photos. I hope people aren't reporting for things like that. If so, I feel for the mods and hope all this new stuff helps.
Express yourself in a way that doesn't make you stand out from other anonymous users. This means avoiding:
emojis or emoticons
a lot of punctuation??????!!!!!
other obnoxiusoius typign sTYLES
I see that this policy has been added to the Rules page as 3.6a.
The "Last updated" date at the top of the page is still June 21st 2017.
Sounds good to me. I hope people from temp will stop attacking maincow for having rules. I enjoy temp but I'm saddened by how much they seem to hate main.
I appreciate the rules, the Admin's/mods' work and the changes. >>483904
welp, I do see emoji posters here sometimes, and I swiftly report them lol. We are not PULL, we are an imageboard. We have a specific culture. If someone's new, they should refrain from posting and just lurk until they catch up and integrate. It's a fair rule.
If I'm on my phone, it auto caps for me. When I'm on my iPad, it doesn't. I know all phoneposters are fags, but seriously, policing capitalization feels a bit silly to me.
I'd also like to ask that mods take reports of backseat modding or threadcopping just as seriously as infighting, which much of the time appears to be caused by backseat mods. Just some thoughts, I love main and temp both, for different reasons.
That's what I've always thought. There seems to be a ton of new users who are jumping straight into posting rather than lurking and acknowledging the culture.
I also wanted to know if any of these rules (besides the saging rule) apply to snow at all?
That poster is responding to >>483892
>I've seen an influx of users who […] don't capitalize sentences or nouns
And I agree banning for that would be silly. All-caps is a whole different story and should obviously result in a ban.
Are we allowed to direct newfags to the rules and usage info, or should we simply report them?
Last night I admit I went a little ott on a couple of newfags in >>>/snow/457144
but not until after I had reported them and no mods had responded. The newfag who kept posting ultimately realized the error of their ways and deleted their posts.
I feel like I came across wrong in that post. I'm not trying to say users should be banned for that, obviously there are much larger things one should be banned for doing. I'm mostly saying that there's a certain way that people may type, whether it be the use of bad grammar, or odd quirks in typing, that make them obviously stand out and you can tell who they are in different threads. I apologize for seeming like I was nitpicking, I should have phrased that differently. I didn't mean to cause a stir, but I came across as pretty stupid.
Although, I still stand by my case that emojis shouldn't be used. We aren't PULL.
Thank you. That is exactly what I was talking about. It feels bad because this thread is already becoming a bit bitchy. It seems like there's a camp who want absolute uniformity, which I don't see as completely possible.>>483935>obviously stand out and you can tell who they are in different threads
This is completely untrue. If anything, people stylize their writing to copy others and hide more effectively. The idea that you can pick a poster out is silly, imo and it's also derailing when it shows up in threads where someone just keeps on calling out samefag to anyone who doesn't use caps and says kek or lol. I'm over generalizing, but I've seen that more times than I can count.
you still come across as stupid tbh. there's no need to police typing styles. there tends to be a few styles many people use.
>proper caps and puncuation>caps but no punctuation>no caps but proper punctuation>no caps and no punctuation
outside of those, maybe you can see they're samefag, but calling out samefag is fucking stupid anyway.
admin seems to be more concerned with avatar fagging and emojis and talking……like….this…. and shit that actually looks, you know, distinct
Although "styles of typing" (which refers to the appearance of text) is different from verbiage or diction. For example, an ESL anon may be identifiable due to their level of proficiency.
>>483970>It seems like there's a camp who want absolute uniformity
I personally am for this. I don't mean 100% nitpickery, and I agree derailing-calling out of samefagging shouldn't be allowed, but I'm definitely for stronger uniformity.
Maybe I'm just a bitter oldfag, but I'd prefer stricter-adhering to 4chan roots than all-inclusive-'newfag' party or whatever
Honestly not interested in anything that slopes lolcow towards hugbox-tier, but if that's the route the majority want then I understand it'll be me that's out of place, regardless of tradition
>This is completely untrue…. The idea that you can pick a poster out is silly
Different anon butttt that’s not true, sometimes it’s pretty easy to spot a same day or certain posts made by the same poster, that’s how Luna (Lanie) was caught…. and her blatant racism. That’s how people like piercedangel, thejoshvlog, Emily and ember, etc posts are spotted or suspected, even to the point that admin doesn’t need to mark their posts bc they’re so damn obvious. They’re many anons I’ve seen who are amazing at observing typing styles to identify cows posting here. So let’s not pretend it’s untrue, but it is derailing sometimes (if it’s not something important) and false allegations against normal anons do occur, so I can see your point of general derailing. >>483934
I second this question. If it’s now against rules to tell a newfag to sage, can we kindly respond with the link to the rules? I understand if you guys are trying to be more newfag friendly, even tho I agree with >>483986
but it gets annoying when the same newfag repeatedly breaks the rules over and over and even if you report mods don’t ever come, so is it just the rudeness that’s against the rules now or is informing newfags of the rules in general that’s against the rules?>>483871
Since there is no more sage in pt, how will the threads be organized? Like how will the ranking from first to last thread in the pt pages/catalog be organized if threads are no longer bumping?
I think it'll make it easier to follow with active threads/new comments. Even if a smaller thread gets 'buried', it'll just be a page or so down most likely. Easy to hit the catalog and just see what's been replied to in the last month or so.
I'm sure if it ends up being a negative thing admin will re-implement sageing, but yeah, I think this'll probably work fine for /pt/. I guess you never know, though!
>>483911> I hope people from temp will stop attacking maincow for having rules. I enjoy temp but I'm saddened by how much they seem to hate main.
I appreciate the rules, the Admin's/mods' work and the changes.
Agreed. I see way too much anti-mainthread ire. These changes seem promising and will hopefully reduce the extent of backseat modding spam (including, hopefully, samefag accusations - though I do appreciate when anons note they are samefagging incidentally).
I'm definitely pro-integrating. But plenty of people use (proper) capitalization, or no caps, that that shouldn't be a factor. Hell, whether I post in caps or not depends on my mood and I suppose how serious the content of my post is. Sometimes I swap between using capitalization and not using it at all mid-post.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone sperging about people not using capitals at all.>>483966
I believe some people are simply better at recognizing patterns in a typing style than others, but those aren't necessarily
flaws in how the poster writes. Nonetheless those same posters get accused of being threadcows or selfposting various other things. So definitely should be handled on a case-by-case basis.
>>483986>I'd prefer stricter-adhering to 4chan roots than all-inclusive-'newfag' party or whatever
At the end of the day, I would strongly prefer that as well. However, the difference is that 4chan doesn't enforce uniformity; It's something that comes with the culture and the nature of the people that use the site. Unfortunately, due to the lolcow audience being mixed in with PULL and Tumblr, we can't naturally reach that state and I feel pretty uncomfortable with the idea of having rules and bans used in order to force people into "absolute uniformity". There definitely needs to be some order and some moderation, but there's something that feels really gross to me about enforcing a type of culture on a website just because it has roots in a different site. It really isn't like samefags aren't distinguishable on 4chan, or that people don't get called out on /cgl/ (seeing as how small and connected the community is, it's not that much harder to distinguish someone on there either).
It really just feels like the site is trying to force itself to take on the guise of having imageboard culture when it doesn't, and the fakeness rubs me the wrong way. It's trying too hard.
it's a newfag trap
also it's hilarious when people try to stan cows using their real names
Uniformity was enforced by both mods and users on 4chan, actually. It sometimes still is on specific boards (ie /a/). It's only in more recent years when moot gave it a looser leash/gave up the site that it's had a mainstream influx deciding the culture.
Personally I think the only way to cull in massive flocks of outsiders from pull or mpa or where ever is mod strictness. I know a lot of people complain about how that's been done, though, so maybe a new site vote is in order with admin ultimately having the final say, idk.
I don't think it's gross to force culture, if we don't lolcow becomes like any other site (ie pull 2.0). If it's not forced it will be lost completely. AGAIN, I'm not talking about small grammatical errors people are picking up on as samefags - but the bigger, obvious 'newfag didnt even try' redflags. But like I said, if I'm a minority in that I accept that lolcow is a ever growing website and not everything is going to adhere to muh sooper speshuful image board culture.
I also agree with the idea of things being a case by case basis. Ie. If a real life ex friend or lover of a cow drops in to provide milk, verifies their identity and then namefags or fuggs posting norms for a hot 5 seconds (within their respective cows thread), that seems reasonably permissible. If they leave said thread, start blogposting and ending their posts with shit like "?" -"o_o" now they need a good temp ban.
Not to mention if too obvious samefags are allowed to reign free we end up with shit like spoony again (ok extreme case but you get the example).
I also agree. I personally preferred when staff was more strict about hugbox stuff cause this ain't the site for it. That's what PULL and tumblr are for. The temp site feels like a containment of that kind of behavior(Just look at the temp Onision threads), but sometimes they come over to post on main and a lot of the time it's obvious where they came from.
Lolcow used to be different from PULL but day by day it's feeling more like it.
PULL has been coming here since 2014. So has Tumblr. It has honestly been out of hand for a while.>>484261
If people complain then they're likely new. The old admin was pretty strict on obvious PULLfags being extra and for good reason.>>484303
Are you referring to the manhating thread and people discussing men of color doing shitty things? Ngl I hope you're not because I don't think it was fair for a certain farmer in there to assume that >ermergrd every1 here is /pol/ we raidchan naoz
Seconding. But all the replying wouldn't happen if manposts were being removed faster. Sometimes I see them up for like 4 hours and no wonder they trigger
someone enough to reply. So, a kind ask for mods to patrol /ot more often. Like, we have a manhating thread, of course incels and their kind are gonna spaz there from time to time.
Its on every board honestly. It winds up either derailing the entire thread because it starts in-fighting or the same person, after being told off once, will lay low for a day or so and then shit up the thread when no one is around to respond to them. So by the time anybody gets online their bs is right there with them pretending to be somebody else. At that point the thread either dies or anon keeps coming back and nobody fucking bans them.
And like anons said upthread, I get that its to be taken on a case by case basis but its pretty obvious when someone is deadset on trying to destroy conversation altogether. Why is that allowed? They can dislike threads but why the fuck aren't these people reprimanded more often and told to adhere to board culture by hiding threads they don't care to see?
Its going to continue happening until farmhands put a cap in some asses. There is absolutely no reason why people can't hide threads they don't wanna see. There isn't even a reason to come into a thread and announce that you hate it. Wtf is anybody supposed to do with that? They know what they're doing by posting that.
Honestly, I can't think of any reason why a person would be so damn pressed to control whether a thread lives or dies unless they were either:
>A) A stan for that person/concept/whatever
>B) Pissy that someone else made it before they did
Fucking this. It’s okay for an anon ONCE questioning a new thread (ie if it’s sus of vendetta, self post, subject of thread is not a cow or weak summary or receipts trying to justify said person being a cow) and say:
>“why is there a thread about so-and-so? They’re pretty irrelevant and this seems like a reach”
… but when clearly the same person comes in posting MULUTPLE times trying to invalidate the thread, borderline shitposting, questioning the thread when they’re are multiple anons who are interested in the thread, put in through thread requests first, see potential, have milk/predict milk.
Protip: these anons are usually quite vague and ignore explanations from other anons
>ie: “why is there a thread for her? no one fuckin cares, delete this trash, like OP clearly is jealous of this person duh”
Then there’s the third type, that special kind of retarded, when fucking anon come into well established threads (whether they be currently milky or in milk drought, this retardation doesn’t discriminate, even the most popular threads) and post multiple times saying this thread should be scraped, question why the thread still exists, tell other anons to stop keeping the thread alive bc this cow is lame/no milk/who cares.comes into momokun #357 thread>“Omg why is this thread still around?! This shits old you guys are just nitpicking. This threads dead prob just filled with sad anons harassing someone. They’re hasn’t been milk in 7 days, delete it and move awn. She’s boring.”
And it’s not just one anon voicing their opinion, it’s over and over usually in a few days of week span, throughout the whole thread. It’s very easy to spot them, and their autism is so advanced that they can’t just shut up and let anons have their fun, due to the disability of not being able to hide a thread bc vague reasons.
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Its starting to happen in /g/ and /ot/ as well. The relationship advice thread was one anon calling somebody a spoiled brat, a cunt, an idiot, etc. last week when they asked for advice and then acted taken aback when they were called out on their behavior. Right now there is somebody else in an aesthetic thread in /ot/ purposely responding hours apart to old posts and trying to bait others. The whole thing was absurd. One anon got triggered
by the color pink and pitched a tantrum until people left the thread to make a new one in /g/. Nothing else has been posted in there but the same person is still
going on. Pic related is from cc but many farmers feel this way between the responses pictured and in this thread.
said its okay to ask a question about why a thread exists but its pretty fucking obvious
when someone is trying to invalidate a thread just to be a cunt. Tbh the ones in /ot/ and /g/ sound like incels because who comes to a site that started as an alternative to /cgl/ and complains about girly colours and Jfash? This shits ridic.
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>"no u": the post
So starting shit over pictures is a-okay but if someone reacts to it then they're wrong?
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Except what bait anon was doing breaks two rules. Stating your opinion once is fine as >>485025
said but continually returning to a thread in order to get people to leave or stop having a discussion is harassment.
I'd like to add on another type>"this thread is just one person posting"
Basically. And I've only seen (or at least noted) this in threads that are already at least somewhat substantial/lengthy. It's a ridiculous claim and definitely falls into the category of "this thread shouldn't exist" posting.
This of course doesn't apply to new threads that are clearly self- or vendetta-posts or otherwise obvious samefagging (newfags using subjects/names).>>485144
What is this in response to?
I actually saw that in quite a few threads. Somebody was posting in threads, not taking part in any conversation, but just constantly calling other anons ugly cunts, bitches, accusing them of being jealous and whatnot. I don't know if the anon doing it just happened to be banned, because I haven't seen it on any of the threads in a few days, but it was fuckibg annoying because they kept on doing it and it went completely unnoticed. Now the Dakota thread has a ton of crap in it because nobody was being warned or banned. I feel like all of the stuff being mentioned is just going unnoticed because none of the mods are patrolling the threads enough.
I hope that admin is at least reading this thread, if they aren't posting in it. Some really valid concerns are being brought up.
>>485274>There are probably three posts in the past 2 weeks that were not banned, but marked
curious, what do you mean by this?
If it says (anything) in red lettering I'm pretty sure it's a ban or warning, even if it doesn't say 'user has been put out to pasture'. I (shamefully) infought by replying to the baity taylor-is-hotter-than-you poster, and got rightfully banned – but even though my post is only marked as (infighting), it is still a ban.
It's kind of hard for us to tell when a rulebreaker is banned, because mods will only mark one of their posts with the ban notice, where they might have shit up the thread with twenty replies previous to/after that. ie. I may have posted 7 times before the (infighting) ban post in the dakota thread, and three times after it (before mods got to that post and banned me for it). So it's really hard for us to tell for sure if the person(s) responsible for bs are fugg'd off or not…
Sorry, I know what I said was confusing. I meant that nobody was being banned, but repeat offenders were only being warned when many of us thought they should have been banned.
Even though we all should know better than to infight and respond to bait, I feel like many of us have done it in the Dakota thread in the past 2 weeks, if only because it seemed like much of the derailing and bait wasn't being addressed, and many of us were fed up to the point where we were infighting and didn't realize it. I was responding to a lot of it, only realizing afterwards that I was an idiot for taking part in it and that responding was doing nothing to stop it. I know we're supposed to report and move on, but we were reporting and nothing was being done. I took a break from her thread just to wait out all the shit, and even though we seemed to have moved on, I'm still irked that nothing was done.
Thanks for asking me to clarify, I haven't been making much sense lately.
At risk of sounding like an idiot, what is c.c? Or was that just a spelling error?
I just have to learn to control my posting when I see bait or infighting. I guess a lot of us do.
Lmfao its happening AGAIN.>>>/snow/483139
graveyardgirl's old thread was made 2-3 years ago and never went anywhere due to stanning and now there are suddenly
anons who feel like invalidating the newer thread to claim that she has no milk despite her 19 fucking threads for the last 6 years over on Guru Gossip.
Here's to another thread on it's way to being ruined.
When they first gave their opinion about liking her, I just said to myself, "Hey, whatever, they're just voicing their opinion. That's fine." All beyond that is derailing, and nobody cares about your opinion. If you like the subject and don't think she's a cow, don't fucking post.
I guess just report any derailing and hope something gets done.
I don't understand what is so fucking difficult for these people to grasp. The first anon even admitted to not knowing jackshit about how Bunny used to be, which had me wondering why they were talking in the first place. Like dude, you admit to not knowing the full story but just felt like coming in to let everybody know that you don't agree with the thread? Fuck out of here with that noise.
And now the milk police are going to start up again.
It got people to shut the fuck up which is a contribution imo. Farmhands banned the one faggot who started it all anyway.
It goes both ways.
You're never gonna stop farmers from getting frustrated and stans should realize that lolcow isn't a place for them to try and argue why cows are likable. Its a place for gossip.
>>485847>It got people to shut the fuck up which is a contribution
This is the reason farmers “take the bait” & “add on to the derailment”. It’s bc farmers will report the stan/derailer/etc over and over but nothing happens. Multiple anons will report the same person derailing and it takes days or weeks or never for a mod to kick them to the pasture.
It’s not so much enabling derailment of the thread as “mods aren’t doing anything about this annoying anon, it’s been a week, maybe if we tell them to shut up and point out the error of their ways they will stop bc no ones stopping them otherwise and when they do it’ll be too late and the thread will have dissolved into shit and died all bc of this one anon, maybe I can stop this before that happens/ fusteration.”
Thirding this. Its pretty annoying. You have to scroll the thread and click on another picture or video once
to get the original photo to click out. Or refresh the thread. The previous format was better.
Just mobile. Instead of the picture you’re clicking on expanding to full size within the post itself, it’s popping open (with no “x” in the corner to click out of pic) outside of the comment on top of it and when you scroll it stays there annoyingly covering posts, clicking on another part of the screen doesn’t click out of it. Only refreshing, clicking the box on a post, clicking on another img can remove the pop up.
Works like usual on laptop and PC. Just mobile.
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Someone explain this? Whiteknighting? Is this a fucking joke? Seriously?
Explain to me in a reasonable manner, how this is whiteknighting? Who the fuck is moderating this shit and what kind of cunt does it take to report this as "whiteknighting"???
This is NOT whiteknighting(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Just scroll up this fucking thread. This is what farmers requested. Coming to a thread just to say how you don't like it/don't get it/there's no milk/boo hoo will get you a ban and it's a good change for lolcow. Brings nothing but infighting and derailment. If you don't like the discussion, hide the thread and move on. Or enjoy your ban
dey climbing to your boards
banning people up!
so hide yo milk and hide yo cows
cuz the mods be banning everybody out here!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Ntayrt but from what I've seen phoneposters being fags became a meme on 4chan because>phone posters posting low quality/small images because it looks normal on tiny mobile screen >spelling shitty because text talk autocorrect laziness etc>being fags and ban evading because easier to ban evade from their phones
Though I don't really care for the current state of 4chan so my understanding of said meme could be off. Basically, yes, it's a joke in a way.
Mightve originated with Reddit or something too no idea.
Admin, can we implement a system I'm calling newfag captcha? I wanted to raise this at the town hall but I missed it because timezones.
Basically Re:captcha but instead of the shit google uses it just pulls from a pool of however many questions the community wrote. Shit like;
>select all of the workout lines on pixyteri
the idea being it's all based on board-culture things you should know from lurking, and if it's something you can google that's fine too because once you get the joke, you're less of a newfag. If you can't solve the captcha, you don't get to post.
Particularly in the onision thread, probably because of temp, people are posting as if this is a forum, speculating about shit like why the thread gets deleted at 1200 posts when they don't know. You shouldn't feel comfortable on this kind of website posting shit like that, imo anyway.
It seems petty but even shit like how users format their posts is a dead giveaway they've never spent any time on an imageboard and are completely ignorant of the roots of the site. Idk about other anons but it makes it harder to enjoy the milk when all I'm thinking is about how ignorant the posters delivering it are.
I don't think heavier modding is a solution, but this is something that would maybe discourage those low quality posters. and I don't offer this as an empty suggestion of more work for the mod/admin team, I'm seriously speaking to a dev friend about the feasibility of it.
Holy fuck yes please god. The questions don't have to be super obscure and you could refresh to another question if they're going to be cow specific to help even the playing field. Simple things like rules or widespread milk like 'whose spergchan?' 'Whose our queen?'
You should repost this in meta, anon. I'm all for it.
At least the rules aren't thick paragraphs of legalese.
In the current layout of the threads, the links to the rules and usage info are buried visually.
Integrating newfags has been a problem on boards since the beginning of the Internet with Usenet and MUDs. The FAQ was invented to integrate newfags, but then getting them to RTFAQ became the problem.
Yeah that was another thing I was thinking. It should be a mix of general knowledge about cows, history, in jokes/memes and having to reiterate the rules. We should have the thing google has where it caches if you solved a certain amount in a certain time, and doesn't ask you again for a while as well.>>488971
Bingo bongo anon, exactly. >>488976
Everyone is just gonna ignore that though, having to copypaste the rule to pass is a better idea imo. Whether they want to or not, they're forced to read the rule(s). Likewise with the in-jokey content - I don't want to scare posters away but force them to integrate. It's true that not everyone follows every cow, and I don't want the captcha to be unfair, but at the same time if you can't answer>what does the pt in lolcow general's url stand for?>who is spergchan?>What did spookycharms steal?
I don't want to hear your opinions on the cows you do follow, because I know they're gonna be stupid and misinformed. and again, not everyone follows every lolcow, but if you only follow one then you're not a farmer, you're just a vendettachan. Certain cows are just to historically important not to know about, even if they don't pique your personal interest that much.
or we could try something less elitist and smug. how about that?
personally, I don't see it solving anything, it will just make the board more of a pain in the ass to use.
I agree, if a captcha thing is done, it should be more rules/image board culture based “ie. what’s a namefag” or something. I’ve been lurking these threads for a year now and participating in multiple threads/subjects, I know who spergchan and pt are obviously but never cared for charms and have never fully gotten around to reading the full in-depth threads of the past cows…..
I’m also confused how a captcha would work? Before each post? That’d be rather annoying
Probably wouldn't call you a vendettachan, as you've stated you have more than one singular interest on the site and I said vendettachans are just obsessed with one person. But I don't think I could call you a farmer yet, but you're on your way. Ty for making OP's btw it's thankless work.
The things I want to put in the captcha wouldn't be unsolvable for everyone but diehard oldfags, at worst you'd need to google and read an ED page, which should be an exiting prospect because it's fresh (to you) milk. the point isn't to discourage posting, but to encourage being read up and informed before posting. The only people I want it to outright exclude are those who refuse to integrate, hence the heavy emphasis on historical content and general imageboard etiquette.
It is totally possible to be an oldfag and have missed out on things, or to just have not cared about them hence being able to refresh and get a new captcha being really important. I don't wanna unfairly penalise people for only being interested in a few cows, which is why they shouldn't be current/up to date either. But equally, not knowing who spergchan is, is like saying you're into metal but not knowing who Metallica are. If you have any real interest in the topic, some things are just unmissable, you need to know them to understand.
This is my logic:
If you don't know the ones I've mentioned or why they're famous, it indicates that lolcow is your first chanboard, which means you're not gonna understand how to behave or the history of farmers as a community. I've seen newfags put their foots in their mouths countless times because they don't know who they're with. Especially those who only stay in one thread, especially when the subject of that thread is a normie. It's like watching a blind person walk into a room full of black people and announce; oh boy, I sure do hate niggers!
Shit like people calling this a forum, asking what sage is, using emojis, using txt spk, asking why threads max out at 1200 posts, posting links to image sharing sites, email in the email field, not saging trashposts should absolutely not be happening unless we were being consistently raided. But I see it every day.>>489338>I’ve been lurking these threads for a year now and participating in multiple threads/subjects
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't be a lurker and poster. They're mutually exclusive terms. The fact you don't understand the terminology and used it wrong is exactly the shit I'm talking about.
Most imageboards have a crazy split where 90% of people who use the sites never, ever make a post. Most users who do post only do so after silently observing for years. It seems likely that our users probably feel comfortable posting after less than an hour browsing the site.
You already have to solve a captcha to post on most websites. It's not that intrusive. But maybe it would be better to have it as part of the flagging system - users who's posts get flagged are made to solve the captcha, rather than just as standard for everyone.
I totally get that it comes across as elitist and smug, especially because I'm whinging about newfags and basically humblebragging about how much of an oldfag I am. It's pretentious as fuck, I know, especially considering this is an imageboard for laughing at people. It's not that serious.
But we have a massive problem with the quality of the posts on the site right now. Users are constantly complaining. As good as the farmhands are, there's only so much post-posting moderation does for the quality of a site. Yeah, I can flag the post and the user'll get banned, but I still had to see the post. My experience of the site is still made worse because that post was never stopped. And they're just gonna ban evade anyway. There's no way to make these people learn their lesson.
We never pre-moderated posts before anyway though, so why the decline in quality? Well, people used to moderate themselves. When users feel comfortable posting; when there's no self imposed barrier to entry - i.e. you don't post unless you're 100% sure about what you're talking about, because you're going to be absolutely destroyed if you're not - the quality of a site will generally be better. And that partly comes from having a nasty ass userbase invested in the sekrit klub mentality that doesn't suffer fools and punishes people really severely for their mistakes. We're not really that kind of site anymore. We have too many new users to integrate them successfully using this model. Tempcow makes any attempt at this method of newfag integration completely pointless.
Maybe this captcha idea would help though, that's why I suggested it.
durr, this should say>When users feel comfortable posting; when there's no self imposed barrier to entry - i.e. you don't post unless you're 100% sure about what you're talking about, because you're going to be absolutely destroyed if you're not - the quality of a site will generally be worse.
That is to say when there's no self imposed barrier to entry posts will generally be lower quality. Anyway, I'm probably gonna go copypaste these into /meta/ and not waste any more posts in this thread on the topic
>>489444>Not trying to be an asshole, I just think our concerns are different.
It was an example of how users behave, I don't see how sage now being removed on pt because of said behaviour contradicts my point. People on snow are still backseat modding in exactly the way I described. You probably can't go back and retroactively look at how many posts were saged on pt in the past now though.
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I samefagged, sure after posting relevant information (at least to my standard about current happenings regarding the Sonida stream).
But I was actually only concerned where to livepost.
Obviously I know the rules, but it wasn't derailing to ask where to sperg live updates, surely?
The place is policed top to bottom so I expected a simple response.
I posted what I did out of genuine concern.
I know Temp was taken down for "maintenance" but another was to replace it etc. etc.
I'm not expecting a river of cash here by the way by any means either Admin.
I was late to the Townhall chat and didn't know the meta went up because it wasn't clickable last I checked.
>Can we just have a sperg thread?
>I don't want to get banned for making one
>I only clicked the link to a chatroom to chat concerns there
>Don't ban over this post either, please
It was regarding Sonida's potential milk about the Onions and the issue of liveposting.
That was it.
There's a stupid 8ch board for liveposting anyway but it's currently empty.
If anyone uses it then sure, fine but if not then cool. It's just /livecow/ on there.
>I just don't want to get banned for bullshit
Also, not almost.
Seems like typing here is …. off. Slower? I don’t know much about the coding aspects though.
I'm not a mod or anything but afaik >>>/meta/962
is the main thread for this. i think momo, onion and kota/keeks are the main ones featured