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>>>/ot/2577801Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-Do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated /m/ thread
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
op artist: Evgenia Antipova
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
Frequently Asked Questions
>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AIBoth the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?Look through older artist salts or give context.
No. 2602431
>>2602363What events in the west could people even sell their own doujins/comics in? It’s so annoying how there’s no comiket equivalent in America. My country doesn’t really care about comics, it’s mostly all capeshit and im jealous that japan is a smallish country so people can just travel to comiket and sell with ease.
The states are big so people would have to take flights often, like to the other side of the country
No. 2602433
>>2602384It's ok, anon. I made the last thread since nobody stepped up and that was the theme all the ones before had, so that's what I chose.
As long as it's art I don't think anybody minds what threadpic you use.
No. 2602511
>>2602465We really need more online comic events like shortbox but unfortunately the creator when on a narcissistic powertrip and blacklists anyone or anything from making similar online events like it. Cartoonist coop made a similar event, but they stopped posting on Twitter and is exclusively on bluesky now because they thought Twitter was too
toxic and nazi filled, which definitely cuts visibility. Bluesky is so fucking dead and a cringe troon friendly hugbox where they crucify you if you’re not ultra woke.
Western online comic scene is basically non existent aside from shortbox. Not everyone can afford to travel to and table in conventions so it’s really unfortunate
No. 2603066
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Do any nonas feel such intense art style envy sometimes? I feel like im going insane because I want to have someone’s artstyle so much, I could stare in awe at the details in their work but it’s not really an easy artstyle to copy because they obviously have knowledge of a lot of fundamentals that my peabrain could never comprehend. When I look at my own art I feel so much disgust and shame, I’ve been so desperate that I seriously considered just training ai on their art so I could create artworks I want in their style. I know that’s bad so I won’t do it, but I fantasize about having that power.
I’ve tried looking up how master studies are done and have tried it myself, but I still don’t feel confident in trying to draw an original piece by myself, like the skills and tricks they do don’t transfer, I keep thinking, “how would they draw this?” and when I try attempting that, I fail because it just doesn’t look as good as they would do it.
Do I still need to keep doing master studies? I kinda hate doing it because I have no idea what their process is actually like and really wish they had a speedpaint video so I could organically create artworks in the exact way that they do it, I think that’s why im never satisfied with my own results. What’s the point of master studies if you’re not doing it the way the artist made it? I feel like it will lead you down the wrong path instead.
Picrel is what I’m talking about, you know DAMN well that this is not how the artist rendered this piece but unfortunately the only thing we’re able to see is the finished piece, and not the process. What did their sketch look like, what base colors did they use, what did their shading layer look like, what kind of brush did they use to shade and refine, what color adjustment layers did they use, etc.
I don’t feel 100% confident in doing master studies unless I know all of those things.
No. 2603077
>>2602896>it seems like the nonas talking about doujin circles are implying some sort of mangaka situation in which everyone collaborates on a single workYeah and IMO I don't really have confidence in doing something like that with people I'm not already familiar with, because there can be a lot of circumstance or personality incompatibility that could lead to the workload being unbalanced or things just not working out. Kind of like that Persona 5 zine that turned out to be a huge shituation when their budget person spent all the money on fucking gacha games a couple years ago. I'm going to question the personality online people who reach out to random internet strangers to partner up on projects. It makes more sense that doujin groups usually start in college clubs or with high school friends
>>2603066>I don’t feel 100% confident in doing master studies unless I know all of those thingsUnfortunately that is not the right mindset to have when doing art. Perfectionism and waiting for the "right time" to draw instead of letting this knowledge build as you make art just leads to procrastination and being too self critical to make anything
No. 2603151
>>2603066doing master studies without knowing what exactly you're copying, how, and why, is kind of a waste of time imo (speaking from personal experience).
you should probably take a break first. then, if you want to do some studies again, try learning some theory about what you want to copy from a certain style (like colors for example, learn in general what makes colors work in compositions and what doesn't from other sources like videos or books) and then try to analyze your reference based on that knowledge, only then copy. i feel like that'll be way more productive.
but also with studies like this, perfect 1 to 1 similarity isn't necessary. what's far more important is your understanding of the method and ability to confidently use it on your own, otherwise you'll never be able to apply what you learned in your original works.
hope this makes sense
No. 2603179
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Imagine having this talent and wasting it on troonshit
No. 2603327
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Museum salt but I wonder if the National Museum of American Illustration is having money problems because they sent a email out that they’re selling a few Norman Rockwell and Leyendecker brother originals to raise money for renovations. They’ve been closed for renovations for 5+ years now
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>>2603327Also the price difference between Rockwell and Leyendecker originals is pretty wild. I wonder if they’re unaware of how popular Leyendecker is with millennials and zoomers
No. 2603339
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>>2603066Why do gen alphas want to copy Matcha so badly?
No. 2603383
>>2603066you're failing to learn anything because you haven't first learned how to observe and break down a piece and also lack a good foundation and knowledge in technical skills
Master studies (and general studies, which sounds like you should be doing more of anyway to get a better grasp on things) are helpful because the process of trying to recreate the piece you've chosen should also be an exercise in breaking down the final result of said piece– you don't need to know its exact production, you need to understand the
end product. The background info can be nice to have, but should not be the focus. Your examples of 'what x did they use' are all things you should be able to guess once you have a decent grasp on both technical skills and art programs, no speedpaint required. There's no trick you cant figure out, and the destination really matters more than the journey to it.
Style studies are different and more intensive, as it's less about using a single existing piece as training wheels and more so an exercise in breaking down and mapping out both the macro and micro aspect of a style, ime meaning copious notes and breakdowns rather than a handful of finished pieces.
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>>2598971didn't know her before trooning out but i REALLY with bixels wasn't a degenerate tif who's into bdsm. some of her stuff shows how much potential she really has.
No. 2603916
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i feel like it's such a massive debuff to have a non anime or realism style in a sea of anime artwork in fandom circles online. my style has been poisoned by anime the past few years and i'm desperately trying to shake it off but i notice that my "true" style that i really love and have fine-tuned to my tastes gets crickets in my social circles compared to people i know who do standard uninspired anime girls, manga lines, and basic ass coloring and shading. when i do moeblob shit is when i get the most praise but the inauthenticity kills me. probably my unmedicated anxiety talking but it is so demotivating to see people with derivative artwork get praised for their "style" when you can see exactly what anime they stole it from. are we just here to suffer
No. 2603931
>>2603916Chasing after social media likes and that kind of attention is probably just terrible for you. Pretty much every social media famous artist I'm aware of has the same trajectory, they start strong but atrophy and go to shit chasing the algo and all the soul gets stripped from their work. If your objective is to acquire the proverbial bag, go for it I guess but if you want to make things that are unique or different they're probably never going to be as marketable. It might help you to learn to differentiate 'job' art from the kind of stuff you make because you love it.
Niche audiences and artists are where it's at, as far as I'm concerned though.
No. 2604155
>>2604118i feel like every kid internet thing boils down to having something over their peers in some way, like kinning, self shipping/yumeshipping, faking mental illness, the extreme oversharing of everything on their profiles
kek i saw a 14 yr old put Anemic under BPD in her caard once. idk if it makes them feel like more important/in control or whatever
No. 2604169
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>>2604118I kind of understand the no profile pic rule, but i think the rest is because of PC culture. They are afraid of accidentally interacting with terfs or "bad people" when really they should just be happy anyone interacts with their art. They aren't your friends, merely observers. Little do they know my tranny hating ass is liking all their shit anyways, kek.
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>>2603066I feel exactly this way about Diesel2b, her artwork is amazing
No. 2604358
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>you can't spam likes and move on with your day you have to buy my art
Why does everything have to go through the monetization filter, it's so tiring
No. 2604422
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Nonas, is it a good idea for me to only post on neocities. I'm done with posting on twitter, instagram and bluesky. I want to plan to make my own neocities art gallery. I dont care about gaining likes and followers, I just want to post my art in peace for others to see without people interacting with me.
But, all of my favourite artists are on main social media platforms, so i just make a lurking account to follow them even though i sometimes get blocked by them which can be so fucking frustrating and sad
No. 2604512
>>2604477Mostly happens with asian ones, I have had that happen to me before. Sometimes they go thru their follower list and remove what they seem "spam", also they're pretty distrusting so sometimes they remove accounts that seem innactive in case they're block-evading, an account to repost their art elsewhere, etc.
But
>>2604422 , I kinda fixed it by filling my lurking account. I simply RT stuff and made my bio "[Age], [gender], I only want to watch. I don't talk, please don't follow me". That way they know I'm a real person, I haven't had any block ever since. Maybe you can machine-translate the bio to JP as well to be sure.
No. 2604635
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Why can't Meisharan just admit that he has a fetish on fat woman instead of pretending his obese Nanaco girl is some groundbreaking fat representation? I kinda suspect that this artist is a tif because moids don't care about body positivity and giving characters made up sexualities
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>>2604643This artist claims to be a man
No. 2604658
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>>2603066>Do any nonas feel such intense art style envy sometimes? I think that's natural; we're monkeys.
>they obviously have knowledge of a lot of fundamentals that my peabrain could never comprehend. I think the answer to all of your questions forever regarding this are related to understanding fundamentals. Once you do, you can understand what to drop and what to keep.
>Do I still need to keep doing master studies? Yes. I think the term "master studies" locks a lot of people into believing the studies have to be done a specific way, and that can't be further from the truth. We don't take into consideration how cells divided in order to draw a puppy or kitten, do we? We just try to emulate what we see. This process of studying may take years, but along the way you will learn countless things. Art is a slow as fuck trade, definitely.
>I kinda hate doing it because I have no idea what their process is actually like and really wish they had a speedpaint video so I could organically create artworks in the exact way that they do it, I think that’s why im never satisfied with my own results.Another issue. Who gives a shit how they do it; the artist themselves could have dogshit work flow and a million layers that makes sense to no one, go outside to chain smoke, and then come back to shit their pants while they eat something disgusting. Hell, it could be a moid fapping to what they're drawing. We don't need any of that! It's about how you can utilize other tools to achieve a similar effect. Otherwise, what
is the difference between just training an AI? As artists ,we all have something I like to call a "stink". No matter what you do, your stink will be left on the art, and some people will capitlize on what their stink is, and that becomes a style.
>What’s the point of master studies if you’re not doing it the way the artist made it? I feel like it will lead you down the wrong path instead.There is no "wrong" way to draw. If anything, the "wrong" way makes it your own. There are alternative methods, tedious methods, optimal methods (though you've seen how nonas ITT have responded to me posting flower brush gifs upthread kek), questionable methods, etc. Morals are subjective, not objective. You don't have to obey a specific process.
There are also a plethora of tutorials that show you methods to draw certain things. This
is the artist salt thread where we go to talk, but at the same time, if I can offer something, I will try.
My picrel is an example of me doing a quick artist study. I know it isn't as flowery and your picrel, but it's the kind of thing that fascinates me; simplistic but soft moeslop. With fundamentals, it's good to ask questions in case you don't understand, and some people can break it down better for you. I would recommend
>>>/m/485635if you want help with art. It isn't quite the same as critique, but if you have tutorials you want posted, I can help you find them without shitting up this thread or the critique thread.
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why do so many tifs follow me on af like go away you weirdo, aahhh
No. 2605419
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Nonnies, what do you think will be the next big trend in art after anime? I feel like the vast, vast majority of artists, even ones that get into art colleges, started from drawing animanga and are still heavily inspired by it (either that or furfaggotry), it'd be really interesting to consider what will be produced in the future, I have no idea how we can still start bringing unique visual aspects to anime, it feels like beating a dead horse and the flaccid moeblob inspired pixiv look has been standing headstrong for decades by now. what regions do you think younger artists will start being inspired by artistically? do you think western cartoon styled art will overtake popularity, do you think the anime influence on art will ever subside, etc?
No. 2605436
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>>2605419I don’t think anime will ever completely go away, especially since older styles are getting popular with gen z/alpha again. Anime’s existed for a LONG time, no reason it would stop now. But, I’ve noticed an uptick in paswg/invader zim/terada tera type of stylization. Unfortunately it’s almost never well done though, so I kinda hope it doesn’t go anywhere..
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>>2605419Anime style is not going away. Western animation companies are going to continue imitating anime or outsourcing their ideas to asian studios completely. Digital weeb artists are going to keep imitating chinese lighting anesthetics and there's probably going to be more interest in making 2D art with 3D programs like blender a la Louie Zhong.
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>>2605436>invader Zim style I'm beyond, BEYOND shocked that gen z hasn't latched more into aping from Johnen Vasquez, esp with tifbait like Johnny the homicidal maniac, it was surprisingly mostly millennials on tumblypoo like pan pizzagate who stole from him. I actually really wish that his style and similar ones like Pon and Zi more, it;d make a lot of sense esp for Brujoari because Johnen Vasquez and similar emogoth artists from latam is ACTUAL Hispanic heritage from the 2000s that she could be prepping, but noo she picked Daria out of all things. veering into blog posting but I'm a zoomie and some of my first actual forrays into drawing was being inspired by Johnen Vasquez and mlaatr, and fucking bleedman… I was traumatized for a lack of a better word.
No. 2605524
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>>2605491nta but anime basically has only really been influential on young artists in the west for like 25 years or so (ofc anime has been getting localized since nearly the dawn of the genre, but it just didn't stick on artists in the west until the late 90s bc of popular localizations like sailor moon and the internet), before that there was a lot lot more variety of influence, like art noveau which is basically protoanime weebshit being heavily inspired by ukiyo-e. even with the internet and fandom still burgeoning, there was a lot more style diversity origin wise, the Renaissance Disney art style was basically just as popular with artists as anime back then, yet is completely unrepresentented now, along with other western toon inspo like the grip looney toons had on furfags. I just wonder what will it take for a new art movement to connect with a younger generation the way anime did for millennials and got completely normalized with zoomers, there's a certain delicate dance between detail and stylization that hooked me onto anime art as a kid, I feel like anime is just a perfect execution of that thesis that I don't know what other medium could stupify me and the general audience in a similar fashion, but it's fun to speculate on.
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>>2605539nta kekk My thoughts exactly.
>>2605419I think the issue comes into what is attributed to anime. Panty & Stocking? Kiba? Naruto? Sailor Moon? Ghost in the Shell? In my opinion, it's all the same thing as cartoons; Not Realism. We'll have offshoots, but the simplification of realism will never go away, and so long as fiction exists, people will want to make things dedicated to it, but not have to do an entire mural or study anatomy to do so. Alternatively, the opposite is true — a lot of JJBA fanart I see is on par with Renaissance artwork kek.
No. 2605847
>>2605539americans came sooo late to anime. In europe and latam it was already mainstream for a long ass time, even when my mother was a child she liked anime, and there were a lot of euro-japanese coproductions that were massively popular (like sherlok hound, david the gnome, moomins,Vicky the Viking , etc)
>>2605487Johnen Vasquez's comics would be too
problematic for gen z
No. 2605964
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>>2605524Anime was popular in the west from at least the early 80s and artists imitating the
style can be seen with things like the original ninja turtles comics and ninja high school which borrows heavily from urusei yatsura. You can also see influence from akira, dirty pair, and even hyper violent anime like wicked city.
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>>2605741It's not only that, he worries if whatever thing is
problematic, overuse of emojis and drawing attractive man. I can't tell if he's very sheltered and completely unaware that most normal people with eyes see his Nanaco as just a fat fetish or he's just grifting off of naive fat girls who see themselves in her
No. 2606274
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I have a confession, I kinda like a lot of thicc thigh coomer designs. I don't find them sexy or like them for the coom, but since I grew up average-chubby watching stick-thin celebs and anime girls wishing I could be like them I now finally get to see cute anime girls who look a bit more "realistic" and like me. I know it's incredibly retarded but it genuinely feels like it's healing me a bit. Though it has the opposite effect when I check the comments and they're all going "mommy". I mostly just draw animals but I'm considering drawing cute girls with more realistic bodies just to fill the market with non-coom but I'm deadly afraid I'll just look like one of those terrible woke-tumblr-slop artists…
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>>2606274It's not that stupid, I can empathise. Does it have to be coom though? Surely there are other chubby/fat female characters you could enjoy. As long as you're not being a pick me retard like claiming it's positive and accurate representation of you (doesn't sound like the case with you, thankfully). You should try harder to find better characters and not generic big titty, slim-thick anime waifus of the month and that way you'd have more humane characters to project onto and won't subconsciously associate your natural body with sex.
No. 2606307
>>2606292Sorry anon but I've literally met anons on the friend finder thread who do hold those opinions. They call women sluts but then say it's not a big deal that pedophilia is common in anime or that fanservice isn't a big deal… like okay bitch why are you calling a woman in a crop top a slut though?
>>2606286The funniest thing is how they'll think they're so above those mindless sheeple whores but they're literally falling for the oldest moid psyop in the world.
No. 2606340
>>2606295One thing I actually kind of like about Current Day is the fact that there are some genuine attempts to depict different kinds of bodies other than 'hot' or 'gross' In which 'hot' is a rarified beauty standard and the only divergence allowed is clothes, eyes, and hair while 'gross' is literally everything else.
At the risk of being mocked, I don't even mind most of the ugly FOTM Tumblr / Twitter art styles, even if the results aren't always very nice looking I can appreciate that they are engaging in experimentation, trying to find their own style. The fact that All Becomes Coom is quite eye-roll inducing though.
No. 2606343
>>2606307>>2606295They don't
actually like it for "representation" reasons, they just want to believe they literally have anime coom proportions kek
No. 2606347
>>2606307>>2606283>then will stare at gross-ass lumpy coomer anime girl garbage and say it's "cute". This is not cute this looks disgusting. You see the same anons try to defend these retarded moid coom slop images to the death while also calling women who wear tank tops and lipstickYeah you can really
tell that a lot of the anons on this site grew up as awkward weebs and I'm saying that as someone who also did
No. 2606423
>>2606274This is a start. You can take your first step into doing what you love by looking at the anons that responded negatively to your statement and mentally calling them fucking retarded. Nobody's opinion on what you draw should matter to anyone but you (and the law?).
I also like it when darker skinned characters are drawn with skin showing because it reflects my own fashion sense. Moids will fap to literally anything (from feet to armpits), so whatever. I think you should draw what makes you happy nona!
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Anyone else get fandom fatigue when drawing and posting on socials? I made lots of arts of a certain series that I only posted on my blog. Since it gets lonely I posted them on other sites trying to connect with people only to end up overwhelmed and feeling like shit because there's a gazillion artists that are way better than me to the point of overwriting my desire to create. Am I too autistic?
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>>2606274Same. Not because of that thought I’m thin actually I’m just attracted to women and a huge coomer
No. 2606666
>>2606627Nta but same kek. I even have a folder of AI generated slimthicc anime girls and a bunch of chatbots on perchance. I'm pretty normal irl but they're my guilty pleasure because they're so sexy-cute.
Honestly if this nonna from last thread
>>2579591 drew female pov thin/thicc yuri my brain would shut down and when I'd wake up I'd be subscribed to her patreon.
No. 2606751
>>2606283>gross-ass lumpy coomer anime girl garbage and say it's "cute".well my real body is also gross and lumpy yet my partner adores me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder
>>2606295>Does it have to be coom though? Surely there are other chubby/fat female characters you could enjoy. I mean possibly? It's just harder to find unless you want that "western" cartoon style of tumblr slop, which I just don't really enjoy. And yeah no I'm not saying it's perfect or "representation", it's literally just that it's nice to see bigger girls in an anime style that still look stylized and cool. Especially also in contrast to tumblr representation art looking like ugly gremlins. The only people I can (at least easily) find are just making them larger seemingly for coom, but since I don't see the coom the same way a man who has an anime fetish would I can enjoy them in private. The same way I can think my female friend looks stylish in a sexy outfit without being turned on. It's not that I project onto them and identify with them that hard, it's more just "hey that's neat"
>>2606347>Yeah you can really tell that a lot of the anons on this site grew up as awkward weebskek was it the way I very subtly said "growing up I watched anime girls wishing I was like them"? Nothing escapes the nonalocks on lc
>>2606423>Moids will fap to literally anything (from feet to armpits), so whatever. I think you should draw what makes you happy nona!Thanks nona!
>>2606698>You dont look like this irl though kek its so weird women desperately want to be moid approvedIt's really odd that you think that's what going. If I think my friends baby pictures are cute, do you think that means I desperately want pedos approval too? Or do you just not think women are allowed nor capable of liking art without it being motivated by moid approval?
No. 2606930
>>2606756nta and idc if you like that, but you said you project onto the coomer anime girls? its just not the same by any measure
anime girls drawn for coom that you project onto dont stop being porny because you find them cute, and baby pictures are obviously not taken for the same purpose, i cant tell if you're being obtuse or are just plain dumb
>well my real body is also gross and lumpyyou sound a bit insecure anon, you can draw anime girls and be happy without relying on any sort of external approval, it would really take some level of derangement to make them really gross anyway
No. 2607019
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I hate insecure fatties so much. We are never allowed to have body diversity because these lardasses don't want well written female characters, they just want to feel validated by men and seen as attractive, because thats the end goal of insecure pickmes. They ironically always give themselves further body dismorphia because unlike the goon cartoons they praise they are built like fridges with cellulite asses and wider waists than hips. You dont look like super sonicoom, you look like kaijuno. Be for real and stop fucking up over women who want female ugly bastards instead of super pochaco goonbait.(off topic)
No. 2607030
>>2605964First time i visited the US no one knew what i was talking about when i tried to talk about anime, which back home was ultra mainstream even a generation prior mine. I know americans even had some conventions that included anime and there was stuff localized (atrociously, like the Warriors of the wind-Nausicaa fiasco) but burgers didn't really start getting as big into anime the same way everybody else did until the 2000s and toonami.
Even then americans were always the most dismissive and stuck up online mocking anime and a lot of old webcomics and american cartoons always had that one "lets shit on anime " parody. In art communities american artists always had to pull some anti-anime flex, so annoying. It always seemed very chauvinistic and insecure.
No. 2607045
>>2607035there was a story of Pixar animators projecting a bootleg copy of castle of cagliostro in the 80s, it wasn't even subtitled or dubbed. Apparently watching anime bootlegs was a common thing for Calart students too before all those titles were localized.
Of course you'd have to be an animator or way into nerd communities when the beta/vhs underground railroad exchange was going on.
No. 2607174
File: 1752714433879.jpeg (21.56 KB, 168x300, IMG_9927.jpeg)
>>2606698> its so weird women desperately want to be moid approvedWhere did the nona state that she wanted moid approval in her post..? I’m confused at all the negative responses that post got. She never said she cared about what moids think, she just happened to like animu girls that are drawn in a slightly above average way than the typical sticc animu girl is. I can understand why so many fat girls/women adore super sonico and meisharan’s fat oc, even if it’s originally intended for coomshit, that doesn’t stop fat girls from loving characters who look closer to what they look like. Fat animu girls are still rare, and a lot of weebs are overweight, so it’s no surprise that those characters are popular with them. There’s not many to choose from in the first place which is why meisharan got so popular, barely anyone is drawing fat anime girls in a cute style, not a hideous tumblr sjw inclusive style.
That annoying cunt addyharajuku is clearly a fatty herself and she loooves collecting sonico figures for example. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know why she loves her so much. I’m curious to see the percentages of women who collect sonico figures tbh, of how many of them are skinny and how many of them are fat.
No. 2607203
>>2607174the
nonnie who posted the shitty coomer anime art literally talked about her nigel finding her attractive lol
>>2606751 No. 2607214
>>2607211>Super Sonico>fatnta Is… is that the takeaway? I draw characters of a wide array of body types. I didn't know that was what some considered to be
fat…?
No. 2607260
>>2607211>>2607214She’s at the very least chubby in my standards. But I just roll my eyes when people call her and other characters with similar body size as “average”. That is not average ffs, that would be considered overweight/fat in a lot of countries. Maybe the image in
>>2606274 would be closer to average if it weren’t for the huge hips.
Maybe sonico can be called “thicc” instead as kids these days say. Characters who are “slightly” above average like sonico will capture the hearts of overweight weeb girls/women because again, it’s very rare in anime. It’s similar to how people with dark skin will tend to like characters with skintones that are slightly darker than the same usual pale skintone that anime characters have.
In reality, no anime is going to create an actual fat character, and few animes will create characters with actual dark skin, so people who are fat or have dark skin will usually cling onto the next closest thing that they see themselves in
No. 2607313
File: 1752721684728.jpg (Spoiler Image,123.92 KB, 562x720, NekoPOP-Super-Sonico-10th-Anni…)
Have you guys mistaken her boobs for a stomach or something? Wow what a fat mcfatty fat fat fathead character because she's typically wearing a loose shirt oh em gee. There's cuter actually chubby anime characters that don't have official babycon art you know.
No. 2607576
File: 1752743061982.png (444.65 KB, 800x1129, __super_pochaco_nitroplus_and_…)
>>2607174>addyharajuku>sonico>fattyMaybe, just maybe, as a burger, my standards for illustrated fat characters is a bit off. Mayhe. But wouldn't this be moreso considered fat…?
No. 2608070
File: 1752776059106.jpeg (1.4 MB, 2894x4093, IMG_9935.jpeg)
>grok ai waifu getting fanart
This is so retarded, East Asian artists are so easily entertained by boring anime grills
No. 2608080
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>>2608070She’s just a rip off of this girl from Shugo Chara anyway (Design wise at least)
No. 2608488
>>2607755I like you anna-chan
>>2608080Is Shugo Chara a good show? I tried the anime but couldn't get far. The mangaka had the classic 90’s shoujo look I love but I think I assume it’s a magical girl anime but I think I’m wrong. It’s the girl who finds a magic egg and the fairies have playing card symbols (diamond, heart etc) right?
>>2607844Same. You have to really game the algorithm to get anywhere online today.
No. 2608495
File: 1752789192205.webp (132.42 KB, 1557x1502, IMG_0252.webp)
>>2608080>>2608191Utau was from that same era as Misa, Death Note is just more well known so people are going to compare her to Misa rather than the somewhat niche magical girl show character.
>>2608488Nta but yes you got it right. Honestly if you couldn’t get into it I wouldn’t push yourself to try it again kek. I think I only like it because I grew up with it. The ending is incredibly anticlimactic I remember absolutely seething when I first finished it because it was so bad. If you want to watch it for the character design and to see magical boys then I think it’s fun. Utau has the best outfits in my opinion.
The author’s other series, Rozen Maiden, is a lot better if you want to watch/read something in the same style.
No. 2608524
File: 1752790587292.jpg (359.5 KB, 850x1317, sample_c381529ba2a00569d4d5229…)
>>2607555https://x.com/zhhy3324Here ya go nona! Sorry for the delayed response.
No. 2609002
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petday3 has a cute artstyle but the way she ripped off literally every aspect of bronzecatworld's artstyle is kinda uncanny and creepy to me. ive seen this happen a lot where somebody will genuinely skinwalk another persons entire artstyle, their coloring, expressions, lineart, everything. does that sort of thing creep other people out too? if somebody did that to me i'd want to file a restraining order kek. i mean bronzecatworld was a pedo so i dont really care about the integrity or whatever, but its still creepy.
No. 2609109
>>2609090I can't place one on the end but it looks like Claire from Witch's Heart, David from the Crooked Man and Tsugino Haru from Zeno.
>>2609002Eh, I see what you mean but I don't think his style is that unique.
No. 2609164
>>2609002>does that sort of thing creep other people out too? if somebody did that to me i'd want to file a restraining order kekI've had a few skinwalkers in my time, now that I think about it. It's fascinating. Morbidly so. Like a curiousity that also doubles as a fright, you don't know how far they'll go. And if you're inconsistent on your art, are they copying that too? Are the disregarding your weaker pieces? I remember having a copycat as early as 14 years old on deviantArt. I told a friend her art was nice and she said
>Well of course you'd think so; I'm copying your style!And then later on you see people steal your OC ideas, and then during Homestuck, that was all the rampage. I sent an anonymous ask to someone that copied my art style and they replied
>idk i just saw a nice pulic on pinterestI think it's less scary when you also realize that there are inconsistencies you see. I don't know what it's like to have a 1:1 copycat. But that might be because my art varies so much now.
No. 2609294
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>>2609162its hard because he DFE'd his tumblr but some of his stuff is still up on deviantart (polycatworld) and furry boorus (dont recommend looking, he drew a lot of weird baby pokemon porn). i remember when i first saw her account i literally thought she was him and apparently a lot of other people did too because she had to make a post about it lol. Like i cant imagine willingly copying somebodys artstyle so hard other people think youre literally that person. its just really creepy to me.
>>2609249Well thats what i mean, like these artists who basically skinwalk somebodys whole artstyle and interests freak me out. Sometimes theyll even do the same typing style too. I saw this a lot on deviantart and tumblr in ye old days but now in the twitter era its a lot less common, I guess everybodys art has become more homogenized. I'd say the artist i see getting copied the most now is Wamudraws.
No. 2609697
File: 1752868422740.jpg (1.31 MB, 1920x1920, tumblr_6dd38866d8fb3284372f92d…)
Sometimes I wish I'd started out as a different type of artist, less focused on individuals and more on environments. Shifting to the new focus is harder than I thought it'd be. But, it's enjoyable, and I could've used that enjoyment in my life kek
No. 2609715
File: 1752869493137.jpg (711.46 KB, 1920x849, tumblr_c28940e732082a732d1a1f8…)
>>2609712Does this make it better or worse?
No. 2609760
File: 1752871810153.jpg (34.13 KB, 735x646, 1752669431999.jpg)
>>2609697I am in the exact opposite position. I can draw environments but god forbid I draw humans that don't look like freakish abominations. Wishing you a good escape though
No. 2609806
>>2609770>I'd rather just ask to do art trades with other artists on a similar skill level.Exactly, I’d probably never agree to do an art trade with 90% of the attacks i get, but that’s simply how art fight works. I used to love it when it was still brand new to me but now ehh. When I’m working on a revenge of someone who drew mid art, I’d always be wishing how i was getting paid for this kek.
The fact that i have a looot of things i want to do probably contributes to my frustration with art fight right now. So drawing for free (even if it’s technically an art trade) when i have so many things on my to do list drives me kinda crazy and i can’t wait for the event to end already
No. 2610099
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>>2609294>its hard because he DFE'd his tumblr but some of his stuff is still up on deviantart (polycatworld) and furry boorus (dont recommend looking, he drew a lot of weird baby pokemon porn).I have a bunch of rare Bronzecatworld art and i thought of making a drive folder of it for those that would like to see them, should i do it? I'm on the fence since he was extremely weird towards little girls who were furries online.
No. 2610113
>>2610099Do it if you feel like it and link it, I see the similarities to
>>2609002 already
No. 2610246
File: 1752898737218.png (438.98 KB, 1243x529, killyourself.png)
I found an artist on Artfight who really pisses me off. Pic very much related. What a disgusting cunt.
https://artfight.net/~Yellowfang No. 2610262
>>2610085I missed her itt, this doll looks much better than some of the stuff she put out earlier.
>>2610254NTA but unlikely, look at the interests. There are TIMs into those things, sure but all at the same time? This is most likely a woman with Tearzah level retardation.
No. 2610297
>>2610277According to AF rules, you're allowed to mention prostitution. I swear to god Artfight staff are practically
gagging for a lawsuit.
No. 2610364
File: 1752905245931.gif (2.25 MB, 498x340, over-it-leave-me-alone.gif)
>>2610277>>2610297Majority of her characters have a NSFW filter, which as of two years ago (because the mods are stupid and lazy) which non-lying children can't get past. Lying about your age is a bannable offence for this reason, when the mods feel like responding to reports anyways. Some of you guys are really fucking retarded about Artfight holy shit. I think she's also massively retarded but like come the fuck on.
No. 2610420
File: 1752913763905.jpg (Spoiler Image,62.99 KB, 500x667, dec0e17c3b18078ce44cdb541b100b…)
>>2610099if we're compiling tosh's old shit then i have some pictures of him saved from a billion years ago. yes he looks like a chudjak lmao
No. 2610443
File: 1752916384466.jpg (55.99 KB, 750x1000, bg,f8f8f8-flat,750x,075,f-pad,…)
>>2610420Groomer weeb face
No. 2610457
File: 1752918419554.jpg (Spoiler Image,56.57 KB, 500x667, d070659e4781ca1db7b80a0d2d2b25…)
>>2610443Heres the other one, I dont know why he posed like such a turbofag kek. I remember he actually had a girlfriend named Moni. I think she was a filipina/japanese girl who lived in germany(?), and like, an actual woman not a tranny. Idk if theyre still together, I guess she's also a freak since she was actively dating a guy who everybody knew was a pedogroomer.
>>2610151Oh god I was also wondering who is uploading his art on the boorus still? It seems he was posting on the private kaninchenheaven account up until 2022 but he might still be using it. Or maybe he shares it on a messaging app like discord? I doubt its petday but its weird that his pedo ass is even still being supported by anybody at all. He literally sent dickpics to a 15 year old and he also had a bunch of weird softcore kid pictures on his tumblr likes before he hid them. I remember several underage people that he was friends with saying that he would casually talk about his weird furry sex fantasies with them. The fact he drew porn of baby pokemon and other really young characters makes the fact that he was openly talking and collabing with literal 7-10 year olds on deviantart even more disturbing.
No. 2610583
File: 1752932862693.png (1.58 MB, 1738x978, 7e2Xdv.png)
There's something so deeply unappealing about cleanly rendered artwork like this. Not limited to western styles either. I could not play stuff like Arknights or Path to Nowhere. Shit writing just feels more shit if there is utterly soulless artwork accompanying it
No. 2610639
File: 1752936447575.gif (59.35 KB, 94x109, Photoshop_Flowey_face_photorea…)
>my shit is getting pqrtd
i think i figured out who it is and i'm not ready to be cancelled for plagiarism since i literally didn't even know this bitch existed until after i posted my art.
how would you nonnies deal with this shit? I don't think I have the mental energy to deal with trivial shit like this since i really just draw what tickles my autistic brain
No. 2610650
>>2610646Planning, hands down..I suck ass at composition
still and I just want to draw.
No. 2610661
File: 1752937375726.jpg (252.25 KB, 1920x1080, LlWy2C.jpg)
>>2610590So true. It's interesting how close artists like this get to making something good but it's just off
No. 2610666
>>2610641i haven't gotten any threats yet but i'm pretty sure it's a design for an au version of a character, i checked their profile and they are pretty damn similar, they've been around far longer than me so i can see why they'd think that.
in my defense i pretty much isolate myself from fandoms online so i only had the original media as my inspiration, you can only do so much with the same source material
>>2610644i'm 99% sure it's this person because only this one art is getting multiple pqrts, and they have a priv as well. i wanna draw more because obviously it's a design i made and that i cherish but at the same time i'm afraid this person is gonna grab her moot cabal and blacklist or start drama with me which would basically kill my already super small account
No. 2610734
File: 1752940505564.jpg (113.84 KB, 1080x1081, 1606869998913.jpg)
>>2610246She got banned!!!
No. 2610882
File: 1752944977637.jpg (526.67 KB, 1280x1821, U_GAIM_002.jpg)
Does anyone have recommendations of 80s/90s anime artbooks or artists you like? i dont care if they are coom i just want to study the artstyle.
No. 2610971
File: 1752948947081.png (46.19 KB, 1124x1162, GLhwwYOWAAAuc44.png)
>>2610694Kek what the fuck? This is so funny. She's kind of based for this
No. 2610996
>>2610684Not really true. Twitter is genuinely broken. I sometimes click on posts that apparently have hundreds of quote tweets but only a handful (or none) will load until I refresh the page a few times.
>>2610666You can literally just say you haven't seen her art before if anyone tries to call you out. And this will not ""kill"" your account if your art is any good since it has been proven time and time again that no one actually cares about the people making their pretty images. I'd suggest you stay off social media to seem too offline to be bothered once it does happen. But in the worst case you'll just have to remake the account in a few months or move to another site for a while.
No. 2611017
File: 1752950426843.jpg (225.93 KB, 850x1046, __kish_rim_misa_gainax_and_1_m…)
>>2610882Off the top of my head I like Akai Takami, picrel
I like the way Satoshi Urushihara draws bodies too, but not his faces. Can't post examples because it's porn
No. 2611101
File: 1752952767293.jpeg (807.11 KB, 1125x710, IMG_0269.jpeg)
>>2610882Reiko Shimizu and Uchida Yoshimi(picrel) are who I think of for the 80’s. For the 90’s Chie Shinohara and the older works by CLAMP are probably my favorites
No. 2611189
File: 1752956026793.png (778.88 KB, 1356x1321, good rendering vs bad renderin…)
>>2610583I thought about this phenomenon of "unappealing but high effort and detailed work" a lot! I came to the conclusion that it's actually lazy (or has to be rushed due to production time and workload), especially if you look at the blonde "Pussy Hunters" chunky hair and clothing. Good rendering requires patience and deliberately, slowly picking colors and areas to focus on.
Bad rendering is slapping on the same style of shading and the same colors choices for shadows for all materials.
No. 2611193
File: 1752956152587.png (31.78 KB, 353x111, nodraws is2g.png)
Saw this donation on someone's stream. Do nodraws really think artists function like this or something
No. 2611198
File: 1752956299084.png (3.49 KB, 251x138, awat.png)
Any lesbians wanna translate what this means? I think it REALLY means that he's a guy rejected by actual, female lesbians, so he claims he's "ace". Character is from Artfight:
https://artfight.net/character/2001712.wisena-izen No. 2611227
>>2611198"I have failed at being a man so I think I'm a woman - I mean trans - but I am still deeply (heterosexually) attracted to and want to sleep with women.
I have great social anxiety so instead of challenging myself to talk to women I say I am ace because I don't want to face rejection and failure.
If I were given the opportunity to sleep with someone, I would pick women - so I am a Lesbian. In fact, I probably watch lots of lesbian porn. I crave the softness of women despite being a homunculus of one.
Since I am 5'6" I have failed at being a man. I am too tall and masculine to be traditionally female. I must be a lesbian or trans. "
There's my interpretation, even down to why they list their height.
No. 2611241
File: 1752957803082.jpg (101.48 KB, 768x512, IMG0046.jpg)
>>2611077Those are character sheets i am trying to find inspiration for the composition. I love how 80s/90s artists use colors too.
>>2611101>>2611017Thanks nonnies
No. 2611245
>>2611214Crackpot theory; people who start drawing as children are not beholden to these weird headcanons about Looimis and relied heavily on
>doodly doo go brrand thus have probably more freedom to go back and "draw seriously", since they know there is no wrong or right way to do something.
No. 2611251
>>2611237My speculation is she first cel-shades to ensure good contrast with the light,
and uses layer modes like multiply, including lots of gradients in the cell shaded layer. The gradients add depth and subtle interest - whereas the "bad rendering" example had very few hue shifts, while Ask uses a lot of techniques to polish her rendering.
The hue shifts are so subtle that I don't think you can pick them out in the start with a palette, but they come as a result of mixing layers and colors.
Using overlay or soft light mode can keep the colors from getting too muddy or dark, but it still takes a lot of technique and acuity to make sure they read well. She also understands color theory, like the blue parts of the painting are just very desaturated grays, but look blue in the painting. The Bad renderer would simply use blue.
No. 2611255
>>2611248I just save stuff to my hard drive and if I'm on mobile I just transfer, cloud storage is a meme
>>2611227Are you a forensic psychologist wtf kek
No. 2611280
File: 1752958882160.webp (1.39 MB, 1600x2268, Leda_Poster.webp)
>>2611231it is a filter, if noobs don't figure it out by themselves they get stuck there for 10 years running in circles doing the same studies over and over. People should study loomis then throw it in the trash and continue studying from a multitude of sources.
>>2611269the technical aspect like the physics of how light bounces and stuff like that is easy to learn, the design aspect requires mileage and trial an error, do master studies as you learn and break down art that you like to figure out why its working.
No. 2611407
>>2611402That's true, but I talk to literally nobody online or offline about art so I don't know anything about how good it is.
I run accounts for a niche pairing and I will keep drawing for it no matter how bad my technique is, but I can't help but compare and want praise especially if I notice that I've improved. I wonder if I can post an example that I haven't posted anywhere.
No. 2611413
>>2611399Nta but I think it has more to do with training your eye. People who are overly reliant on things like loomis are drawn to the method because it tells them exactly what to do. They can’t see that the perspective is off or that eyes don’t look like that at an angle, they only know if they want X result then they need to do A, B, C to achieve it.
Personally I’m not really conscious of what I am doing when I draw most of the time, I just look at something and decide if I like it or not. Because I have been drawing for a long time I’m able to identify a lot of beginner mistakes, but someone who is just starting out may not be able to see them at all.
No. 2611510
File: 1752968897825.gif (274.42 KB, 730x531, IMG_9690.gif)
>>2611344sorry if this is a stupid question but how is this program any different than making a folder labeled [thing] and just putting photos of [things] in it
No. 2611530
File: 1752969569053.jpeg (115.15 KB, 643x402, IMG_9691.jpeg)
>>2611520so it's like photostickies for windows
No. 2611532
File: 1752969651303.png (168.01 KB, 476x552, holy shit kek.png)
Nonas I'm watching the extremely aggressive beginner artist rip into other artists as he "redlines" and it's so fucking funny
No. 2611538
>>2611532sever Dunning kruger.
This is also why 99% of tutorials online are trash.
No. 2611611
File: 1752973184475.png (63.4 KB, 425x443, this is how real champs do it.…)
>>2611605samefagaroo
>>2611532Your wish is my command.
No. 2611615
File: 1752973467444.png (739.17 KB, 2048x1149, super-mario-bros-1993-05.png)
>>2611611I want to see the 93' Mario Movie goombas he draws so bad.
No. 2611632
>>2611611Is this him outlining what he thinks the shape of the head
is or is he doing this as an
improvement? I'm crying either way this is so funny, please share what his normal art looks like if you're able. I need to see the Rembrandt behind these masterpieces.
No. 2611635
File: 1752974312152.png (707.75 KB, 1306x1014, expert at work.png)
>>2611611I just kept digging. Tried to keep everything within the year.
No. 2611657
File: 1752974661210.png (300.42 KB, 548x845, mistakes were made but hes an …)
>>2611635Now. It's fine to draw the way he draws, let me put that out there. He is very much a good average. The main issue is that he's so fucking mean KEK
No. 2611661
>>2611635lol, gold tier cow.
I've met people like this, they try to skinwalk pro artists that they followed on social media and parrot snippets of things they heard artists say but have no clue on how to do anything or what any of it means.
No. 2611667
File: 1752975067143.gif (37.93 KB, 220x257, 1749836960920.gif)
>>2611635>>2611657Can't even draw a fucking cube and he's acting like that KEK
>He is very much a good averageYou're too kind,
or I'm too mean this is "I started drawing one month ago and will now stagnate forever" level of permabeg
No. 2611718
File: 1752976864594.jpg (853.22 KB, 1000x636, Kir1-5a.jpg)
>>2611635Anime artist trying to correct anime artist, and neither one of them knows ANYTHING about normal human anatomy
No. 2611740
File: 1752977627514.jpg (168.02 KB, 799x888, 5351324917_4aaf75d35e_o.jpg)
>>2611189You guys need to look at older illustrators, seriously. Both pictures you posted look generic as hell. The top one has the advantage of having decent lighting because it follows the rules of lighting. It's also a little impressionist with the color palette, but that's it. It's still anime.
No. 2611754
File: 1752978405199.jpeg (386.33 KB, 1179x1683, characters.jpeg)
Found on a reel asking about overused OC tropes. Perhaps the kids are healing
No. 2611773
File: 1752979488540.jpg (132.85 KB, 800x501, 3591494625_5f9d0e2c44_o.jpg)
>>2611760>>2611758Screech louder, you joyless harpies.
>>2611756No the original post was about "soulless artwork", which anon then referred to as "unappealing but high effort and detailed work". I like older illustrations that didn't rely on rendering to capture the soul.
No. 2611780
File: 1752979824794.jpg (514.37 KB, 1024x837, tumblr_lkdoaijzFr1qfh8aoo1_128…)
I bet if anon had posted Layton sprites you'd be all over it you damn weebs. Nothing wrong with diversified inspirations, the attitude that only specific types of realism and animu are the peak of art is the reason that everything looks the same these days.
No. 2611783
File: 1752979961082.jpg (101.92 KB, 343x483, 39958c0d07b6c68225e5f3bbf9fb4a…)
>>2611780Westerners arent good at stylization it always looks retarded. The disney worm style is ugly as sin.
No. 2611787
File: 1752980539490.jpeg (218.1 KB, 500x834, 00065976-500x834.jpeg)
>>2611783Objectively untrue, you just need to see more of it.
No. 2611795
File: 1752981306019.jpg (1.26 MB, 1136x1601, tumblr_otc2m8AsaU1qcpuvgo1_128…)
>>2611787But that's not stylization that's just realism. At least anime is stylized with the intention of being attractive, but garbage like disney/pixar/dreamworks is just plain unappealing. I dont think disney has ever drawn a single attractive guy ever, closest thing is the 3edgy5u skater 90s guy from that failed steampunk movie. I like western art but it gets boring to see pretty girls paired with ugly guys with big dick noses for the 2415th time. Westerners are good at realism and colors but stylization wise japs mog them. I will never understand why westerners are so allergic to drawing attractive men.
No. 2611830
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>>2611787>>2611787>>2611783>>2611780Yawn. Lurk more and learn from everything instead of being a boring boomer that hates stylization.
No. 2611843
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>>2611795AYRT, I actually agree with you on a lot of points, I just took offense at the statement that
>Westerners aren't good at stylization Though this is most likely a opinion that we're probably not going to agree on.
I wouldn't consider what I posted nor picrel realism either, but againWe're getting a bit lost in the weeds I feel, the original argument was for anons to diversify their internal library because both the western VN style and the animu art discussed are generic and mediocre, most likely because of exposure to only the same bland shit (as well as rushing out art in the VN's case.) The reason I brought up weebs is because a lot of Jap/East Asian art have styles that are obviously influenced by western art like
>>2611773 >>2611740 posted. So I just think it's funny when anons seemed disgusted by it when certain anime styles are basically the same just altered to fit into nippon ideals.
>>2611830I like animu, I just think going the whole "nippon art is superior to everything ever" all or nothing approach is a disservice to yourself. Also the anime art that started this in the first place is the most bland shit imaginable but you do you I guess.
No. 2611858
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>>2611843Is it really that wild of an idea to some anons itt that some people dont like the western boomer artstyle. It's not better just because you like it more than anime, it's actually pretty same-faced and derivative as well. Disney has been drawing the exact same characters for almost a century now to the point people can recognize the child faced button nosed woman and big nosed goofy fat/skinny man as a disney trope. Also, anime allows more expressive faces
>>2611787 >>2611843 these two drawings have the exact same boring poker face because the style is too limiting. I like western artists but when i have to pick which stylization i want to use for a drawing, its animu all the way, way more fun, allows for fun expressions, guys actually look hot, its cuter and more appealing etc. It's fun to steal colors from boomers though.
No. 2611869
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Y'all are retarded. I mean this from a place of love. Art is subjective and none of you are objectively right. "Stylization" includes various dgerees of realism, if you aren't adhering 100% to what you see. Nothing is better or worse, and can be experly executed by someone if you look hard enough. Grand, sweeping generalizations are silly; the west is not better at this and the east is not better at that. Ffs, we have weebs and westaboos running around making merry.
No. 2611875
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>>2611851
Using Disney as an example for western art and comparing it to the entirety of anime is weird, of course western animation is going to look more samey by that example. It makes more sense to compare anime to western comics as a whole, which are just as varied as anime in terms of artstyle
No. 2611880
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>>2611875Anyway I'm just going to start posting art that I like
No. 2611889
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>>2611858I don't think it should be a competition, just each side has certain strengths that the other is capable of implementing, as well as their own weaknesses. There's so much cultural exchange between western and eastern art that it's a bit silly to try and rank. Ukiyo-e influenced Impressionism which was a very significant movement and the art created out of it in turn influenced eastern art. Anime and manga styles were influenced by early 20th century western art, which in turn inspired western art again. It's like how eastern fashion trying to emulate western fashion influence western fashion which influences eastern fashion. It's an ouroboros of influence and inspiration and everyone should look at both sides for their own creative betterment.
No. 2611897
>>2611889>I don't think it should be a competitionI dont think so either, but people like
>>2611740 are always huffing their own farts about it and it gets annoying. No one cares you dont like anime, no one asked your opinion either.
No. 2611929
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>>2611914So you agree? Western comics and anime both have varied styles? Okay
No. 2612013
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any nonnas in the thread have any favorite tips/tricks from turning a quick drawing/sketch into a postable pic (certain types of backgrounds, textures, finishing?) i feel like I really suffer from my art looking like raw and unfinished
No. 2612164
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>>2612013i think the most important thing would be composition? framing the art in an interesting way can make an otherwise simple image look really striking. im saying this because when i feel like my art looks "unfinished" its usually that the composition sucks.
No. 2612249
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>>2611795>stylization wise japs mog themSome of my most favorite artists of all time are Japanese but tbh in general I think china’s best artists mog japs, at least in social media. There’s something so unique and recognizable about how they render and use color, their art scene must be different but we can’t really access/see it because of their internet firewall.
I’ve made weibo and red note accounts and I’m constantly blown away at all these artists I’m seeing there, but a lot of them don’t have western social media accounts. Meanwhile on twitter jap artists of course are free to post there. I genuinely think that the reason why a lot of people glaze jap artists is because Chinese artists are literally being restrained in their own sites so they don’t really know how good they are. Thankfully a lot of their popular artists have been posting on Twitter already, but it still amazes me how their average joe artist on weibo can create pieces that would get them at least 50k followers if they made Twitter. When I check pixiv and scroll through the top rankings for daily, weekly, and monthly, literally 95% of it is just that same boring animu style. I prefer anime stylization but scrolling through all of that really gives me anime fatigue for real.
Countries tend to cultivate their own art scene thus their artists will rub off styles one another. You can often tell when an artist is American, South American, jap, Korean, SEA, Chinese, etc
No. 2612441
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>>2611830Man you REALLY don't like people having opinions different from you, huh?
>>2611843I get what you're saying anon. I actually recently rediscovered Tomie dePaola's work. I grew up reading his stuff and I forgot how much I loved his style. Especially the way he drew cats and medieval figures.
No. 2612533
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Is it really that unrealistic to believe that you can like both anime and fine art and pick the anime artstyle because you genuinely like it and not because you a pleb who has never touched a museum or something? this is why people hate artists, some of you are so condescending for no reason. You are no better for liking fine art as opposed to chinese cartoons. To the eye of a normie we are both unemployed losers with useless skills.
No. 2612545
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>>2612508that's the manhua/fanart/novel illustration stuff. China has very high quality art schools that teach you oil painting before any digital art (like Russian ateliers), so they have a lot of digital artists who use very interesting trad-like textures. These artists tend to paint more boring stuff for their pro work and only put out cool, personal work once in a blue moon, and they'll never be as prolific as artists with more simple styles, but there's plenty of them to follow and enjoy.
No. 2612547
>>2612545This looks obnoxious to me, sorry
nonny.
No. 2612556
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why do east european fairytale books draw such hot husbandos or do i just have bad taste?
No. 2612647
>>2612631you need at least 100k interactions on your account to ask for payouts, and the pay is only gained from other checkmarks interacting with you.
I tested the checkmark for curiosity, I like the highlight and statistics features, but for payout it's not worth it unless you're a political account.
No. 2612653
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>>2612508It’s still noticeably appealing/better than jap art tbh. I know the danmei style you’re talking about and I couldn’t care less about it too, I barely follow any artists who draw that
No. 2612700
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>>2612655Ahhh, why did you got to say this to me, Nona, whyy
No. 2612715
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>>2605419I dont know but Im glad animecore is the trend right now because it's what killed the ugly sjw tumblr style that was everywhere 10 years ago.
No. 2612724
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>>2612715Nta but it was cool when a few people tried to replicate that animecore art style but now every single tiktok zoomie tries to do that and it became even worse when canihavepromo got popular
No. 2612751
>>2612702What troubles are you having nona? For weibo I was able to create an account using email, I think they ask you to verify a phone number too. For red note it was probably the same, or just a phone number. I have both of these installed on ios, dunno if it’s different with android. Try making a weibo account on desktop too, and you can sign in on your phone with its camera qr code function.
Lofter is definitely the most annoying one to try to make an account on, however it should be easy if you just link your weibo with it, that’s what i did. And to save original quality pics on lofter, you could inspect element and snag the image file there or download a right click enabler extension on your browser, then you go to the filename and change the image resolution number. I forgot how it looks but if you’re able to get a direct link of an image, i can change it for you and show which section to edit. I’ve been saving lofter pics for years kek, I don’t use it much anymore though since artists have boycotted the site for having ai crap or something so the artists i’ve followed stopped posting there.
And personally I only browse red note, I don’t know how to search for artists on weibo, you’ll have to just go to your fave artists’ weibo and look at their shares so you can find the other great artists they like. I’ve never browsed lofter at all.
No. 2612812
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i found this while reading the short comics thread on /m/ and it made me realize how much shen's art has declined over the years. i miss his buzzfeed-tier relatable comics, they weren't very original but they were easy on the eyes and had a charm. now all he draws is cringe girlfailure yuri bait for chronically online basement-dwelling trannies with janky lineart and either muddy or eyestrain colors, no in-between.
No. 2612829
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>>2612758What are you talking about? looks fine to me.
No. 2612831
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>>2612812new art for comparison. i really hated his highschool art club yuri saga. this shit literally hurts my eyes, i can't even focus on the text, it's so ugly it's distracting
No. 2612909
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>>2612866Genuinely what gives you that impression? The bike thing happened in 2017. He went on hiatus and adressed it making jokes about it later on. I looked through his twitter and it seems like he continued making his usual slop until ~2021 when he wanted to start another comic. If anything it's the effects of the pandemic lockdowns + him never having bothered with fundies
No. 2613187
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>>2612756I fucking feel you nona. I've been raging about this every time someone takes something I love and rebrands it to some retard's hashtag nonsense. How did the rest of us even find likeminded arti- oh right. Art websites. Fuck me. I'm so pissed there are no functional art-specific websites that haven't already been co-opted by nasty kinks.
I'm tired of socmed. I'm tired of socmed. I'm tired of socmed. Please bring back specialist sites instead of everyone trying to clamber together to throw things into the pile and pay to be noticed more than others please please please please
In other news, I really enjoy outdated art! It's neat. I grew up with anime-looking games so it holds a close place to my heart.
No. 2613387
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>finish a drawing and am pretty proud of it
>maybe it will still look fine to me a few days later, doubt can start creeping up
>weeks later i am fully embarrassed by it and can’t stand looking at it, hate it so much, am ashamed of it
why does this bullcrap keep happening to me? i hate this feeling so much, i cringe when looking at art that isn’t even a month old. i get embarrassed that i proudly showed this to my followers and am mortified at the possible judgmental thoughts they could’ve had. this is so frustrating and it’s why i can’t stand looking at my media page/profile. i can’t stop hating my art.
i look at other artists i admire and enjoy browsing their page..maybe people just tend to appreciate other peoples art more but are judgmental with their own? still though, my art probably isn’t the best because a lot of these artists didn’t follow me back but they followed my friends who have cuter and more appealing styles than me.
so it just confirms the fact that my art isn’t good enough for the people i look up to and it’s a shit feeling
No. 2613467
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>>2613187I miss this era of anime too, now anime is genuinely so plain looking. I miss when anime girls looked like baby cats.
No. 2613482
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>>2613187I draw shit like this because I grew up with it and like the shitty 2000s moege style, even Key stuff kek. I kinda don't care if someone sees my art and thinks im one of those animecore retards who discovered anime during the pandemic but it does make me sad how oversaturated this style is now. I mostly only draw guys in this moeslop style though, I haven't seen people do that much.
No. 2613500
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>>2613482You are doing god's work
No. 2613631
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>>2613482>I mostly only draw guys in this moeslop style though, I haven't seen people do that much.Based, I wish I could follow you right now as someone who also grew up liking the art style.
>>2613500Io's so cute. OT but his route's probably the only reason I ever want to play Kao no Nai Tsuki, besides Carnelian's art.
No. 2613679
>>26133871.The could be not following you because they sense the vibe that you hate your art.
2. remember in 5 - 7 years you will love your art again; like the phenomena of women thinking they looked old, ugly and fat and then 5 - 7 years later look endearingly at their old photos.
3. figure out why you don't like your art and change it.
t. I love my art and regularly spend 30 minutes every night browsing my own gallery / glazing myself.
No. 2613825
>>2612751Both Weibo and Rednote technically allow foreign numbers (it must be a phone, they don't allow email registration anymore) but the verification codes are always wrong for whatever reason, both the SMS and call ones give me errors despite inputting thwm correctly.
I have tried to sign-in in both PC and app and waiting until midnight for server reset, but nothing worked.
About Lofter, the only way to view it without an account is via the app (they changed it last year, now you can't even view a single post in browser unless you're signed in) so sadly I can't inspect elements. Apparently it's easier to make an account by making a WeChat first and then linking them, but that app is unavailable for my phone…
No. 2613848
>>2612909this one actually doesn't look that bad. i still dislike the huge diamond-shaped eyes he does
>>2612866i don't think that has anything to do with his arr getting worse
No. 2613940
>>2613468>are you evaluating your art enough and understanding specific issues enough as you draw?i always am, it looks fine as i’m drawing and it still looked fine when i posted it, maybe i should just wait a few days or even weeks to see if a drawing still looks fine? it doesn’t happen with every drawing i make, it’s just kinda random. like in one drawing i realized i drew the arms too fat and making them a little skinnier would’ve made a whole lot of difference
>>2613679i’m glad you like your art
nonnie, there is a specific art style in trying to go for but i almost never draw in that style because..honestly idk why, probably because there’s so many art styles i want to replicate but when i try incorporating all of it together i just fail miserably. pretty sure i also suffer from inconsistent art style syndrome which i hate, i envy those artists with a recognizable art style so much. i need to work on finding my own unique style, it’s probably why i hate looking at my media tab. it’s all inconsistent and doesn’t fit together
No. 2613964
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>>2613940>>2613387Are you me? Kek.
I have similar problems, however I've learnt that I should completely own it and embrace it. I think styles are something that naturally occur and become apparent over time, even if you're using different stylistic decisions with each work you'll subconsciously be drawn to similar themes and colour palettes (it's been proven that everyone has their own preferred internal palette) which will lead to cohesion in your body of work. Great example is AssasinMonkey, recognisable even though his style is constantly changing
drawing AJ nonstop helps with recognition but stillDon't know what the fuck your style is and have to stare at your old work for reference? Excellent! You should work on your fundies so no matter what you draw it looks good. This gives you some flexibility and imao makes you a better artist than someone who can only stick to a singular style. Even masters had stylistically inconsistent phases, the hard pushing of having a consistent, sellable, brandable style is a psyop created by Big Art
I'm kind of taking the piss in saying this but there's truth to it and socmed algorithms.
The following suggestions are a lot of work and aren't necessary especially if you don't have a lot of time on your hands (or you use art to unwind) but I think what might help is if make a document, or write it down physically, where you list every theme you want to convey and your inspirations. After that you can group things together and get a better idea of where you want to go. You might find writing artist statements for yourself useful. Hell, you could even critique your inspirations and really dig into why you like them and how you can implement aspects of that into your work.
Can't suggest anything about not hating art you make three seconds after you finish it, that's something everyone deals with (minus Dunning Kruger permabegs) individually.
No. 2613980
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>>2613964thank you for the advice nona, i don’t think i can escape the unique style propaganda kek, it’s probably one of my biggest art goals and if i finally create pieces in my desired art style i’ll finally be truly happy and proud of my art, and won’t cringe in disgust when i look at my own page. i don’t think i’ve ever felt truly proud of my art in years. and i’ve still had people tell me that they love my artstyle but i couldn’t really see it, or at least it still looks too generic to me, like there’s probably thousands of people who have similar styles.
and about the study thing, i’ve actually been thinking about creating detailed notes on art styles i like like what this tiktoker did kek, such as compiling eye shots and how they drew it, a hair section, clothes section, skin section, etc. i thought that having a folder of their artwork would be enough but maybe doing this will take it one step further instead of me constantly going back and fourth between images.
the question is how to merge different art styles together so maybe i could take notes of my favorite features from each artist and see how it plays out together but i’ll probably never have an artstyle that perfectly captures every single one, a lot of them are like different ends of a spectrum, one has a muted color palette while the other uses bright colorful palettes. that’s probably why i often fail because i want to draw both of these things but the end product ends up looking like neither of them
No. 2614046
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>>2613980>the question is how to merge different art styles together You might want to try out a process like picrel (don't have to follow it exactly ofc) where you do as much experimentation and study as you want and then slowly stripping it down to the bare essentials of what you like and then experimenting with that before distilling it down again. However, this is a long process that you shouldn't rush but simultaneously shouldn't stagnate in. Writing notes like your picrel is 100% a step in the right direction! I feel like you have a very good grasp of what you want so I believe you'll get to your goal. Wish you luck in your art journey nonnette ♥
No. 2614086
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>>2614080Aye, anons be temperamental. Like the sea they be.
No. 2614123
>>2614086More like LC nonas aren't a monolith, kek. I still think the picrel for
>>2613980 is too much when a master copy/actually trying to draw is more useful. Save the autistic paragraphs for comparisons between your copy and the original work
No. 2614721
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I like to play the game of
>How the fuck did this lower effort scribble earn so many points on Artfight?I know for a fact that it's all not even that big of a deal and not worth worrying about, but it's so fucking funny to see the children cheat the system to earn more points for their team, while the bigger artists make beautiful works of art and it's like 38 points. picrel
Again, no shade throwing at the children but them lying on the points is just my absolute favorite thing to look at.
>>2614689Ohh okay yeah that makes sense. I do things like tracing guitars and then filling in the sides of the guitars at a different angle from the ref. I don't know what the current gen of kids call that these days though. I've seen people refer to straight-up tracing as "heavily referenced" kek
No. 2614828
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Genuinely ugly old man and attractive young woman couple, I’m genuinely wondering what the audience behind these 87k likes is. Is it moids who see themselves in the unattractive balding middle aged man? Is it women who have a thing for older men? But that guy is actually fuglo kek. Maybe these women have that “hear me out” type? And the woman in this isn’t typically drawn in a way that attracts scrotes i think (an underage animu waifu way)
No. 2614871
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>artist with proship dni and pronouns in bio drew stocking
>gets a reply saying she looks like a child
>she gets mad and defensive
>meanwhile her drawing looks like this
I don’t even know what to say, is this not crazy to anyone else? This literally looks like ddlg crap. And I saw an artist on my tl that said he hated how people who are lolicon perverts with fetishes follow him, and I check his media and it’s quite literally fetish content and little girls. What is up with these so-called anti proship people having the most lolicon artstyles kek, I swear half of these people are just projecting
No. 2614893
>>2614871Like
>>2614880 said, registers to me like Adventure Time noodles. Plus she has tits. DDLG I thought also includes two consenting adults? Otherwise it's just CP right?
No. 2614926
>>2614907NTA but I don't read the art as depicting a child and this isn't terribly OOC for Stocking. Its reminding me of art from that sexualised morute phase Tumblr had which inherently has a slimey and gross vibe. Mixed feelings, what does the artist usually draw?
>>2614916Yeah, normies are famously great at pointing pedoshit out and wouldn't go "cute!!"
No. 2614939
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>>2614916>playing dumbSorry; I just think it looks like chibi.
No. 2614959
>>2614946>But if you wanna play moral police then you better be super conscious about it yourself, so I don’t feel bad for herSeriously, what is it with moral puritans being shocked when they're held to their own standards? They can point out tiny
problematic details in other people's artwork all day long, but when someone else criticises
them, suddenly it's schizo to notice things? Give me a break kek
>Also why is she a paswg fan if she hates proshippers, don’t Scanty and Kneesocks fuck?I feel like most modern PASWG fans haven't watched the show in full, they've just seen the funny or cool moments on YouTube and act like that's good enough
No. 2614968
>>2614934I'm talking from personal experience, because I go outside and talk to people. You're going get two reactions;
>Oh that's weird.>This is cute something something just a woman feeling cute with her little macaroons!Pop surrealism and similar movements was still popular with the general public until very recently, and art to the essence of what anon posted was a big majority.
>>2614946Both sides are incredibly stupid, and if you say so around a staunch anti-shipper they'll turn around and say you're just as bad as Nemu or Fanny for having that opinion. Antis also ignore the rampant pedophilia on their own side.
No. 2614993
>>2614871>>2614871i know its themed but shouldnt the details be light blue? the background and skin already look really pink, why not make the bows and underwear a different color at least
also did she private after this or are you a follower? is this the same girl that got called out for having an oc in nazi uniform? she always draws in that adventure time style kek
No. 2615031
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>>2614916>if you showed this drawing to normies who don't absorb discourse about the ethics of cartoon proportions 24/7 they would think it was pedoshit.KEK no they wouldn’t. They’d think it was adventure time fanart or some cutesy drawing. Just like how they wouldn’t think P&G was a raunchy sexual show if you showed them some unassuming fanart of it. I swear some of you spend waaaay to much time on twitter lmao
No. 2615160
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>>2614828oh my god is this the bitch who does creepy old man x young girl star stable art (horse game for babies) and swears it isnt ship art? how stupid does she think everyone is?
No. 2615218
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>>2615160Ain't no way people are gooning to Mr Sands kek
No. 2615280
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>>2614871That's just the average 2012 Tumblr girl's artstyle kek. Took me back, I remember seeing many similar drawings back then, surprised a noodle kawaii girl sparked such controversy nowadays.
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>>2615295It's pretty self explanatory with the image, just one of those early 2010s swag girls but asian, I think swagapino was a term back then too IIRC. Dropped pic like a retard, sorry
No. 2615516
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>>2615349Join us, my beloved. Become a part of it. It's fun, I promise. Lose yourself to delirium.
>>2615388I wish it'd stop honestly.
No. 2616061
>>2616035shit like this is why I never post my original characters online and only stick to drawing fanart
chronically online people are so fucking weird istg
No. 2616083
Nonas it’s not that deep kek, I just want to copy some of her designs since she isn’t actively watching me and my art flops anyway it’s not like she’ll ever come across them. But ok yes I’ll admit it feels good to copy from someone who didn’t follow me back as punishment kek
>>2616044I can only imagine a callout thread on me accusing me of plagiarism kek. It’s whatever, I could always just claim it’s different or just ignore it then everyone will forget in a few days as they always do
No. 2616106
>>2616084>have been watching her cozy up to other artists and shower them with gifts, compliments their ocs, their artstyle, on places like art fight and social media so they could notice her >she’s also in a group/clique with other artists >watched my friends and other artists get followed back by other artists, but not meMaybe I am a bit crazy but I honestly don’t care anymore. Yeah my art may not be the kawaii uguu style that they love but I’m tired of feeling stepped over, when I follow them they probably checked my profile and thought “eh, mid art” and turned their noses up at me. I know the feeling because I also do that to countless artists who follow me too. Yes I’m a hypocrite. Well fuck them and fuck her, it’s going to feel great when I copy their oc and art styles without any limit, it’s going to be free real estate
>>2616103A lot of great artists do actually kek, I have ~17k followers on Twitter. This artist I’m talking about isn’t even that good, she has a simple style and is the type to live on Pinterest which is where she gets most of her ideas from. Her drawings are charming but not skillful at all, which makes it all the easier to copy
>>2616104Nothing really, we have a few mutual followers and I don’t think this thing is that deep, I’m just being petty
No. 2616110
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>>2616106I support you schizonona. I also get annoyed when some bitch doesn’t follow me back even though my art is technically more skilled than hers
No. 2616124
>>2616110Right, and of course I’m guilty of doing the same with other people who follow me, it’s a cruel world
>>2616112Oh don’t worry about that, it’s not like I’m going to make a 1:1 copy, just take the main aspects I enjoy and make sure it’s different enough kek. Any time someone tries making a callout thread on oc plagiarism it goes nowhere, unless it’s tracing or actual art theft (claiming their drawing is yours)
No. 2616142
>>2616106>this artist I’m talking about isn’t even that goodand yet you're seething over her not following you back and want to steal her oc's design as a "punishment"
of course these threads are complete garbage now because we have schizos like you posting here
No. 2616209
>>2616083>>2616035You're someone who these threads used to make fun of
when the salt mines were aplenty, get out of here
No. 2616247
>>2616083I think your motivation is retarded as hell, but I completely endorse this endeavor. People who're overly protective of their OCs and get assmad about plagarism are also annoying, so any outcome here is a win imo kek
>>2616226>the only issue is that I don't think my clients want me learning how to draw some things after they paid for itNTA but that's why I usually make a point to tell my clients if certain elements of their commission are personal weak points artistically during the initial consultation (before any sketching has started). Usually they're chill with it potentially not looking as good as my usual work or just remove the element in question. Don't let them try to haggle you into getting a lower price over it though, I've never had that happen to me, but I know a friend who dealt with something like that.
No. 2616447
>>2616395I feel you
nonnie. I lose my entire following running from a psychoass stalker. I finally lost him but after changing my identity online a billion times I have no audience kek
It's kinda liberating though; I can't fuck up if nobody can see me. And the ones that end up following me keep wondering why I have no audience and seem to be more active than the dead follower accounts I had like a decade ago anyway.
No. 2616703
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>>2615218she cosplayed him too
No. 2616720
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>>2615160I have a love-hate relationship with this artist's art because I absolutely love the way she draws women but I fucking hate the way she draws moids. I really wish she only drew women, but I know she'll never stop drawing ugly old moids.
No. 2617102
>>2617063Did something happen?
Personally I don’t have any jealousy over skill levels with mutuals, but I do have some personal vendettas of me giving a mutual of mine free art but she never gave anything back in return kek. So now I ignore her posts and never interact with them
No. 2617154
>>2617105>had quite a number of them get mad at me because they hoped I'd let them participate>at least one would give me a dry response or a little snark.kek what kind of comments did you get?
i wish i was in an art server that actually felt fun to post art in. it’s either people whose skill levels are all low or they just have ugly art styles so it doesn’t feel fun to post my art there, or servers that are insanely big like the art fight discord so posting art is useless.
i had a friend open up a server with her art mutuals and it was pretty fun but after a while things got kinda awkward and it’s pretty dead now.
what i wish for is a not too big sized server, most people there have similar skill levels to mine or better, most people are familiar with each other, and it’s not clique at all. this one server i used to be in used to meet all prerequisites
except the last one and it was insufferable, if you weren’t one of the usual “popular” or well-known users in that server you’d probably get ignored, and a few minutes later a popular user will post after you and get all the reactions and comments. i don’t know why discordfags are so terrible at etiquette that should be common, what a bunch of mongrels tbh. i finally left that server after it happening to me several times because it genuinely would ruin my day.
i yearn for an art server with actual good artists so i have people to have “competition” with, and to also get attention from other artists i admire. posting art in a server filled with shitters just feels embarrassing so i barely post art anymore, sadly that’s like 90% of all servers i’m in
No. 2617183
>>2617102The usual phenomena of posting only to be met with silence but someone can post something with less effort and everyone loses their mind. Hell it just happens if I speak in general, no response. Someone repeats what I said. Instant replies. It's like a weird form of negging unless I've been blocked by everyone and don't know it.
I was kind of curious to hear IRL experiences with it too.
>giving a mutual of mine free art but she never gave anything back in return kekExactly why I don't do free art for mutuals anymore, hell not even friends. Like I know it's assholeish to expect something back for a gift but some people end up treating you like a dispenser. At least give me a thank you card kek
No. 2617199
>>2617183A thank you would be nice, in person/dm or shared in stories. They’ve shared artwork before but didn’t share mine or follow me even though we know one another irl. I think most people are just selfish and want to be seen. So they’ll follow artists better than them in hopes of being seen or promote their work constantly so people give them pity likes.
I’d love to make another DA/Concept Art forum site but it would be divided into hobbyists, amateurs and pros; maybe retired too for those who just want to be casual lol. There’s too much mixing right now. Anyone who wants to spam and run would be a hobbyist, those more serious would move up in the ranks. Irl talk would be kept to a minimum so the focus would be art and possibly networking.
No. 2617201
>>2617196The fakeness too can be grating
>>2617199Replying to myself to add- tagging one’s image in those categories would only show up in that algo. So id you didn’t want to see spam/fan art at a hobby/beginner level you wouldn’t see it. A pipe dream I know lol.
No. 2617203
>>2617183That sounds like intentional group bullying to me. Is your art noticeable better than everyone else’s? It could indeed be jealousy
And I should’ve specified a bit more kek, I’ve talked about it before but it’s like this
>used those meme “draw your followers oc in your style!” templates that was going around >she eagerly replied to take up a spot and i happily drew her oc on the template>fast forward a few months later and she also uses a similar template>wanted to get closer to her so i offered my oc >she never ends up doing this template>fast forward to art fight and i draw her a lovingly rendered attack >she goes crazy over it, but never attacks me back and continues to draw for other people The art fight event was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. I felt so stupid and used so I never wanna acknowledge her again. Wish I could hardblock her on every socmed but I’m still too afraid to do that kek. I guess waiting for me to become an ultra skilled and famous artist and have her suddenly care about me again so I can continue to ignore her is better. I’ve become very petty from this whole thing
No. 2617205
>>2617063I was in Art Uni at a very prestigious
or at least used to be kek school and it was fucking awful. There was so much silent bullying from the women towards me despite us all being at the same skill levels. The women at the school who were secure in their work were much nicer to me. Admittedly there were a lot of other factors going into this jealousy but I'm very sensitive and took it hard. My main advice is to grow thicker skin and really learn how to stroke people's egos. There was a gorgeous girl who came into our program later and everyone was obsessed with her because she was really good at stroking people's egos. Admittedly once you saw past the facade she was very fake but it worked. Find a group of people you genuinely like as your support base and learn how to be fake with the rest.
No. 2617218
>>2617199what about cara.app?
>site was made during elons initial takeover of twitter, where a lot of alternatives were popping up because people wanted to escape >other sites were bsky, misskey, and these other art apps i can’t remember cara is like a mix of twitter and art station, and now i haven’t heard a peep from it ever since most people came crawling back to twitter. the time when everyone was hopping onto all these different platforms was tiring. it was incredibly obvious they’d all return to twitter kek, such a pointless event. i guess bluesky ended up being the most successful one but it’s still not very active and is an extreme hugbox.
but anyway back to cara, i remember seeing that it is very expensive to run, the owner(?) is some chick with a black and white smiling asian lady as their pfp on twitter and she would share how big the bill was. call me crazy but i simply wouldn’t care and even encourage cara and bsky to just add ads so they can have some help with their bills, im used to scrolling past ads. i wonder how cara is staying up, i stopped posting there a while ago already. new art platforms will never truly succeed and remain niche at best because the consumer audience won’t follow. i talked to my normie friend about deviantart and she said that even she browsed DA despite not being an artist, im afraid that it’s now a lost time
No. 2617219
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>>2617203>>2617205>>2617183Sounds like mobbing.
>They diminish the confidence and integrity of others in order to deflect attention from their own inadequacies. Bully’s inappropriate behaviours are dysfunctional means of dealing with their own problems of low self esteem and incompetence. Since childhood, bullies have learnt that they can avoid the unpleasant consequences of bad behaviour through the instinctive response of denial, blame and feigning victimhood.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4170397/ No. 2617239
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>>2617218i used cara for a bit. it's deader than dead. nothing happens there. while it has some interesting features, it had nothing to spark some interest in it. i'm also looking into an art community like it used to be in the past, with forums. i don't like discord, because there's no permanence.
pic unrelated. i like Carmen Aldunate.
No. 2617243
>>2617214It's outside of the US and had some major restructuring post-pandemic. I'd say it's still in the beginning stages of losing its prestige.
>>2617219I feel crazy because they were all very nice to me one-on-one but the natural progression of that to being in the bigger friend group never happened. I had some other friends but I refused to sleep with their ringleader and he ruined my reputation with them. I give off a 'beaten dog' energy due to my shit childhood and I know it just makes people want to be aggressive towards me.
>>2617232She definitely did the right thing I just also got really weird energy from her. I'm kind of a sped and have never been good at certain social dynamics. I think I can be very charming but only around safe people. She immediately tried to butter me up while completely ignoring every other woman and only moved on to them once she realized I didn't have much to offer kek. We would have very nice conversations and then she would either immediately stop talking to me to talk to a moid (even if he was hideous) or would make a really weird backhanded comment about me. Like the third time I talked to her she tried to compare our boobs kek. This post has kind of gone off the rails but I guess one of the main things I learned in Art Uni is that I might not be meant for the art world unfortunately.
No. 2617296
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I'm literally going to die mad about DeviantArt, it's so fucked.
They really shit the bed with their whole remodel. They switched from easy to sort and browse categories to a tag system that leaves it up to the users to define tags, and on top of that didn't even bother to automatically add tags to existing works.
They could have it all if they just brought categories and the forum back. I miss being able to browse and find new art without having to guess what someone would have tagged something or how they might have misspelled it. Not to mention all the untagged existing art just rotting away unseen on their servers. It wasn't a utopia by any means but it was better than the wasteland it is now. Why would they do this?
No. 2618162
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Should art accounts be strictly faceless? How do you feel about artists who occasionally post selfies alongside their work? Betty Jiang for example.
Personally I think it's fine, but I'm curious as to what the consensus is.
No. 2618165
>>2618162I think it's fine, unfortunately. I do not want to see someone's family pictures when they drew me in by drawing my husbando being thirsty and stuff.
I don't like it. But it is their account. It's like accepting the flaws in someone you love, even if you hate the flaws with all your heart.
I personally wouldn't unfollow an artist over it. If they draw well, then that is just something I put up with.
No. 2618190
>>2618162It depends because if it's just a selfie or something relevant to their art like cosplaying then it's fine but as
>>2618165 said it starts getting weird with oversharing, posting your family, posting thirst traps etc. I wouldn't recommend it anyways because of online safety issues.
No. 2618228
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>>2618162All art accounts should be faceless unless their identity (not retarded internet label identities mind) is integral to the art they create or its simply impossible to do that, like with say, performance art. Most accounts posting more random selfies than art and constantly sperging about themselves don't fall into either category. Not just for safety but it's also annoying and helps contribute to weird parasocial tendencies the art community has where people will demand or try to wheedle personal information from you, especially if you make slightly more edgier art than usual because you must!!! Have trauma!! Tell me it now or I'll call you a fetishist!!!
for art as banal as having mild blood My rule of thumb is that I should never be able to guesstimate your personal life or you are being an attention seeking fuckwit/retarded with your personal information. The amount of artists I come across online where I can guess the general location of where they live based on text posts alone is far too many.
No. 2618445
>>2618162A rare selfie every now and then is fine, I'm not fond of people who post constant selfies like weekly or daily. Seems very attention seeking like they aren't confident in their skills to bring engagement.
Also from what I've observed the pipeline from posting selfies as an artist to opening OnlyFans is a thing. Saw someone post art, then selfies, then thrist traps, now she streams herself peeing in her chair while drawing. Awful.
Also I don't mind those who draw self portraits but again I find the pipeline of drawing pictures of yourself to drawing porn of yourself a real thing.
No. 2618487
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>>2618445>Saw someone post art, then selfies, then thrist traps, now she streams herself peeing in her chair while drawingWtf, who's the artist? Kinda reminds me of Qiandaiyiyu but I'm not sure if she ever started OF yet
No. 2618650
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>>2618568qiandaiyiyu is kind of a cow and a massive attention whore. A lot of xitter yuricucks got mad at her for drawing straight ship a few years ago
No. 2618824
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>>2618650she really is a two in one deal lolcow a shoopcow and a artcow! woaw and its so blatant she traces over ai come on girl…
No. 2618857
>>2618825If they want to stretch the meaning to that degree, pimps and traffickers are also
valid sex workers that need their support! So brave.
No. 2618864
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>>2617063>>2617105I hadn't considered until now it might be envy but this old friend, we share a server of 5 friends and used to do art trades all the time. Her art is really nice and we talked a lot but last year I grinded and my art improved tenfold, that's roughly when she stopped talking to me.
Whenever I post or reply to her art it's total radio silence, but she responds to everybody else's comments with enthusiasm and hypes them up. I can't remember the last time she even acknowledged my existence, it feels really personal. She's always been vocal about her art insecurity so I wonder if it's that's the issue.
No. 2618877
>>2617154(nona from
>>2617105)
Eh at first the comments were regular disappointment but it all went to shit when they started asking for the reasons as to why they weren't chosen/what comments their art got from the other mods. I thought they were asking for it as a form of wanting feedback or critique so I went and said it but it only got them more pissed off because turns out none of them were ready to be told that their art feels "generic", "unpolished", "crooked anatomy" and so on. I was the one on the server so naturally they all started to silently blame me for it all (even though I had made it clear that I was quiet while they were being judged because I didn't want to insert bias into it) by saying things like "so that's what it feels like to be told you suck by a friend huh" (I repeat we weren't friends just acquaintances) and lowkey guilt trip me for it. None of it affected me though because honestly I was just done with that server and that was the perfect reason for me to just leave.
No. 2618909
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>>2618824>>2618834This one is probably the closest to her real body type
No. 2619066
>>2618825Great, now coomer artists are gonna have even
more of a
victim complex
No. 2619084
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>>2619071I think they’re referring to this one? The artist is biya.
No. 2619091
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>>2619084How does she have 1 million followers while her most popular piece has 87k likes?
No. 2619245
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Should I switch the genders and make a comic about issues with my partner? Women aren’t taken as seriously online and it would be funny to see twitter/reddit scrotes relate to my comics.
No. 2619253
>>2618487Tomatomagica is the artist lmao, the one who went from drawing stereotypical tumblr art to ecchi art
This kind of person in your picrel is annoying as fuck too though
No. 2619323
>>2619295That’s why I’m on the fence about it. Even though it would be funny to have them relate to it I would be pandering.
>>2619307Yeah that’s the plan. It wouldn’t have to be about my partner maybe inspired or about stories I hear from others. Has to be stories from a woman’s pov or else it won’t be as impactful.
No. 2619552
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Why some artists use art that is not their own for icons on their socmed accounts I will never fucking know. I understand getting art from friends, as a gift, or commission from another artist, but some of these clowns don't even credit it as being from something else, and when I check their gallery it's a flashbang of low effort pencil scribbles from a middle aged human being with
>Artist. Self-taught
in their header.
No. 2620010
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What are some artists you used to follow that fell off the face of the earth? For me, its Sanzo.
>woman posts art and doujins featuring mounstrous women falling in love with cute guys
>eventually gets picked up by publisher
>editors/publishers make her change the main female character from a dinosaur to an ugly big titty anime girl with the legs of a t-rex(it looked horrifying)
>manga flops
>stops posting shortly after
I miss her nonnies. I hope she's doing well, fuck editors/publishers for trying to turn my autistic queen into a cringe normalfag pickme.
No. 2620033
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>>2620010It has been almost 10 years and I still think about Nuri(カラカモ/banafria) from time to time. I loved her art, even when she drew for fandoms I wasn't in, and she inspired me so much with her original story Parashi. One day she just stopped posting in all her social media and art accounts.
I comfort myself that at least I got to buy her Tourabu Okitagumi fanbook.
I hope she's happy and in good health wherever she is.
No. 2620044
>>2620010Oh shit, I remember that manga. I always thought it was a male author because big titties and shit, but figured dinosaurs were enough to push past it and read the edutainment part.
Finding out that we could've gotten an actual dinosaur sucks.
No. 2620048
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>>2620044Yup. The manga was original about an actual dinosaur woman. Left is her original concept and right is the lobotomized moid pandering shit they made her turn it into.
No. 2620113
>>2618911ayrt This mentality is so retarded, I am having fun playing devil's advocate. Okay. So. Madames and Pimps would be moreso people who make tutorials for drawing the sexual organs or poses. They have a stake in it all, but aren't actively participating. Like uploading a tutorial for cum and other bodily fluids. So not
quite sexworkers, but related.
>>2618946Dildo makers are moreso, to me, akin to those that sell brushes on the market. Cum brushes, boob shine, sfx illustrations (speech bubbles, fonts associated with porn art and comics) etc.
This is the best I can conjure up.
No. 2620117
>>2620048My guess is they made her changenit because it is less monster x man and more
animal x human. I can understand the appeal of a lopsided relationship between beast and person, but this being based on a real animal that potentially existed at a point in time is skirting on legality in some places. And likely fucky with morals (especially if it's being paid for to make). Making a ton of baseless assumptions though.
No. 2620125
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>>2620117Japan literally has lolishit everywhere what are you talking about since when does japan care about the legality of things, let alone the legality of fucking a millions year old dinosaur in a comic that isnt even nsfw.
No. 2620170
>>2620117Anything related to animal-like characters on relationships with humans is a huge yuck to me, but being honest her original manga seemed like just a comedy/cutesy shit rather than a serious romance, I don't think it would've more far than giving the dinosaur a kiss on thr nuzzle.
If it were made be a moid, I'm sure it would've leaned into actual bestiality.
No. 2620172
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>>2620170The thing about sanzo being a woman is that she self inserts as the monster, she's said so herself. She doesnt want to fuck them like a moid would. She explained before that she draws monster girl x human because she feels ugly and undesireable of love. As a fuck you to publishing companies her las published work was about a caterpillar. Kaneoya Sachiko is the closest thing i have left, it's not fair gillermo del toro can make an oscar winning monster fucking movie featuring an ugly fish guy while my girl sanzo gets done this dirty by publishing companies.
No. 2620277
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>>2619455Nta, she’s in a polycule now
No. 2620282
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>>2620277samefag, here is the aforementioned pissing
>>2618445Bleak.
No. 2620360
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>>2620282Kek female Michael Kovach
No. 2620428
>>2620125Nona, I started off with "my guess". A guess, not me preaching what is and isn't the holy law of great Japan. Please curb your enthusiasm a little kek. I am just cooking up conspiracies here.
I don't think
any country holds animal rights on the same level as human rights. For instance, Texas in the US has outlawed acts against animals yet has some questionable takes towards minors. So, like I said, "some places". I didn't study Japan and will happily admit I have no idea what is legal there for their fiction.
>>2620161Likely the preference of the publishers or whatever. To make it more palatable. I'm surprised she didn't go with a muscular design. I don't know anything about the artist or how people get their products published over in Japan, but
how much creative freedom did she have exactly, I'm wondering.
Was the deal itself held at gunpoint unless she made the characters look like that? Was it a skill issue? Was it her own preference? Because the artist is gone according to the OP, we won't know for sure.
I personally had been requested to draw something of that type of design that looked like the manga but was a brontosaurus woman, so the manga cover gave me a visceral reaction kek No. 2620475
>>2620431samefag looked into her
DONT VISIT THAT ACCOUNT THE DEATHFAT PORN IS REVOLTING https://x.com/ShampooChan13/status/1746223160691769394 and shes also a diapurfur…
No. 2620486
>>2620428>Was the deal itself held at gunpoint unless she made the characters look like that?Pretty much, it happens a lot in the manga industry. I don't remember if it was in this thread or in the fandom one, but nonas posted examples of how often publishers force mangakas to do stuff like giving female characters bigger boobs to catter to coomers.
Basically they don't care about the artist's freedom or creativity and just want the same things over and over because they sell, that's probably why she was forced to make the dinosaur your usual moeblob anime girl.
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>>2620475>Isn't that one too yellow?Holy shit what is with people mixing in their retardation with callout posts? Alphys is a yellow dinosaur ffs This hurts the credibility. I'm gonna try to push through and read but this racism stuff is so fucking
weird No. 2620664
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>>2620641Samefag. The debacle with Miku Hatsune is profoundly retarded. Aside from the glimpses of milk on this pisser, it's very heavily burdened with zoomer morals.
No. 2620685
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>>2620117Another manga, snake x woman, managed to get published even with sex scenes included and wasn't canceled, guess its okay if the monster is a guy.
No. 2620725
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>>2620664>Miku is 17She's not real. She's not even human. She was made before most of these retards were even born.
No. 2620735
>>2620685ayrt Then yeah, I have nothing.
Like
>>2620486 said then, it's a case of biased publishers in the end. Self publishing might be the only way for those interested to make monster woman x human doujin.
No. 2620748
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>>2620010>mounstrous women falling in love with cute guysMy question is why is this so rare? I feel like I really have to dig for this kind of stuff.
No. 2620770
>>2620664First off, miku has always been considered to be 16 years old, never 17, I think no vocaloid has ever been headcanoned to be 17 years old kek.
Also, it's seriously retarded how people cling to the ages of characters in general. I hate both the people that draw porn of characters
because they're underaged and the people that moralfag about cartoon characters being sexualized.
Mostly because it's easier to curate your dashboards than it seems. I've used social media for years, and I absolutely never
never saw lolicon, shotacon, gore or any nasty pedophile's shit in the entire almost 17 years of daily social media use.
Like the moralfags could begin by admitting that they're somehow interacting with that shit first, and then stay away from those spaces if it hurts them that much.
The retards into drawing porn of underaged characters because they're pedophiles should just kill themselves tbh but it usually takes a while for them to do so, so people don't really need to do much.
Like this whole discussion and dilemma wouldn't exist if people just didn't interact with pedophiles at all, then the pedophiles would lock themselves in their communities and the lack of attention would at least stop them from becoming popular and earning money off of people's commissions.
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>>2620734i feel ya too nona, it's hard to find a normal person to talk about your niche interests without getting into shit fling match with them. they're either people who get their panties in a twist over shipping , getting upset at artist for drawing """
problematic""" shit when they clearly didn't read or seen the source material, kids who really shoudn't be on the internet to begin with and gendies, so many gendies. all these factors is why don't post fanart or participate fandom stuff anymore
No. 2621004
>>2620675I always thought it was psychosomatic pain because artists are often mentally ill in some degree. I have back pain but it's because I have scoliosis kek so I wonder how many artists also have it but blow off the symptoms because they're too mild
>>2620770Only Crypton and retarded zoomers who only listen to Vocaloid if the song is trending on tiktok care about Miku's age. Everyone else sees her as whatever she is in a song, she has zero personality outside of that because she's a voice with a pretty animu package to sell it. Also there's at least like six "officially 17 years old" Vocaloids
No. 2621054
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any 3d modeling fags itt? I've currently been teaching myself and I feel like im kind of starting to get it. curious to know what nonnas in this thread have made with 3d or tutorials they like or what programs they like to use or any artists they like to look at for inspiration. I feel like i never really appreciated the beauty of 3d art before starting to learn how to do it myself and now I have to catch up on 3d art.
No. 2621068
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>>2620675From what I've seen, there is a certain reason a lot of artists have backpain. If you don't, you are one of the smarter ones lol
No. 2621118
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>>2620428sorry
nonny it just makes me fume that japanese moids can publish manga with sluttified toddlers and sanzo cannot publish her monster woman manga
>Was the deal itself held at gunpoint unless she made the characters look like that?Yes. Her female characters have always been actual monsters, not monsume tier girls with tails.
>>2620685This is also vorebait, eugh.
>>2620748Publishers and mainstream media will never allow creators to explore the idea of women being loved despite not fitting the approved beauty standard set by moids. There is a shoujo manga where the cute, conventionally attractive protagonist falls in love with a disgusting gorilla looking moid because ''he's nice uguu''. Meanwhile men loving women beyond their looks is frowned upon and censored, like they did with sanzo. Even though the moids in these type of stories are allowed to look like gorillas and deformed creatures, whenever a manga is about an ''ugly girl'' she always ends up taking her glasses off, getting a new hairstyle and finding out she was pretty all along!! and most of the time, the male love interest only falls in love with her after these changes(princess jellyfish).
No. 2621254
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Do bongs really browse Twitter like this now? Can any British nonas confirm?
No. 2621273
>>2621254I tested out a few sites that are supposedly censored but the only site that is actually giving me an error is
nhentai, sorry nonas. Twitter, Wikipedia, all chans I frequent, even Rule34 is fine. Reddit seems to have suppressed NSFW subreddits entirely, they do not show up at all, I'm actually pretty greatful for that. I don't think these changes will effect me much.
No. 2621277
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Nonnas, what’s some of your least favorite advice for artists? Personally, I feel like shape language teaching and fearmongering against same face syndrome has made western art ugly asf
No. 2621280
>>2621254Not bong but european, a similar law as what's going on in the UK was enacted in the EU so I have the same message. I've seen plenty of people saying just changing your country in the settings to the US or Mexico or Japan fixes this but I don't know if accounts can be suspended if some ai moderation thing can detect there's something wrong here. There's also so way to prove your age yourself, I have no idea which criteria are taken into account and how long it takes to have an answer.
>>2621262That means twitter already "guessed" you're an adult or assumes you're in a country with less restrictions.
No. 2621777
>>2621054Depends on your interests, so far I have tried Nomad but turns out I don’t enjoy sculpting too much. I have been having way more fun in Blender playing with meshes and shit.
Once you learn Blender you can apply that knowledge to other programs such as Maya with due shortcut adjustments. Blender’s community is huge you’ll find something for every question you have and tutorials for everything that matches your taste. Good luck nonna!
No. 2622076
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>>2621277The 250 box challenge is retarded busy work. If you want to learn perspective and architecture, study that. The boxes don't even apply to organic material like humans. You'd be better off studying still lifes and drawing figures or doing skull studies. Complete waste of time.
No. 2622101
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Are there any skilled artists who teach using ikemen/bishies instead of anime girls? Most of the pirated weeb drawing courses I find (like Mogoon, Nekojira, Rinotuna, Hide etc etc) always use girls. I am planning to study BL artists anyway, but it would be nice if there were courses that use bishies to teach the basics.
No. 2622207
>>2621054I use zbrush, maya, substance designer and painter, and am currently getting the hang of marvellous designer and speedtree. I absolutely loathed 3D at first, when I was an absolute beginner trying to do hard surface modelling in maya, but fell in love with it once I started to sculpt in zbrush and then lost my tiny mind to being able to make both characters and environments. Also have a 3D printer and like to make, print, and paint my own garage kits, it's so cool and so satisfying to actually be able to hold your work.
Currently working on custom player character minis for my dnd group's upcoming campaign, which has been a lot of fun.
No. 2622563
>>2621254My friends say yes, and that changing countries isn't working anymore.
Some likely won't get the forced verification if their account was already labelled by the system as adult.
>accounts made before 2012>age estimation based off your email-address>age estimation based off the kind of users you're following, and followers you have>https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/age-assurance No. 2622720
Same anon as
>>2621262Turns out I did get restricted tweets on my current twitter account. I tested out how to get around it on another account. What doesn't work is just switching country without a VPN, or using a VPN without switching country. They both have to be active. So was I did was this
>Turn on VPN >Twitter account Settings>Account information>Change country>Japan>Agree and continueThen I could see restricted tweets, however as soon as I turned off the VPN the tweets were restricted again, so both have to be active.
I even made a new twitter account using a VPN based in Japan so it looked like I was a native, but then when I turned off the VPN it restricted tweets again due to local laws. However if my UK-made account stops working even with the country change and VPN, I'll just switch to the JP-made account with VPN.
No. 2622742
>>2622101Not that I know of but I wonder if I could maybe convince someone that I know to do it kek
But it'd just be
>draw from reference and add anime eyesmost of the time.
No. 2622760
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>>2621277Head measurements. It's debatable at best I think, since most people use it like retards and refuse to listen when I point out how broken it is. They genuinely believe that someone that is 5ft tall has a dramatically smaller head than someone who is 6'4" tall. I can't with these people.
No. 2622765
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>>2622760samefag Artists out here thinking picrel is accurate to life
No. 2622841
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>>2622765This is why you must study real people, even if you're drawing anime. You can tell which anime artists actually know what humans look like and who's bullshitting
No. 2623509
>>2616106>when I follow them they probably checked my profilevery presumptuous
she probably doesn't even know you exist if you haven't even tried to get on her radar my commenting on her posts or drawing for her. you are psychotic.
No. 2623525
>>2588057Heyy, samefag as
>>2587755 (again). You know, I'm not against the idea. Pretty sure a couple nonnies who saw my initial post are curious to see what the fuss was that all about
in retrospect, what I drew is extremely tame and my mindless scrolling on pixiv can confirm that but at the same time, I can't help but wonder … Are you sure you'd like me to share that with the class? Again, I don't mind it (neither do I mind my art getting roasted kek), I just feel that I overhyped my scribbles.
>inb4 yes I am autistic which is why I keep digging this hole No. 2623804
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>>2623525nta Yes. Obviously censor what must be censored but every time you pop up you are a complete tease, dearest nona. Coomslop for ye is coomslop for thee. Though, it's up to the other nonas if it should go into here
or the personal creations thread.
>>>/m/485635Chances are, if it's tame and
you like it, it could spark interest in others as well.
No. 2624312
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>>2621277I really like this topic, sorry for doubling back and making another comment but I found another thing I remember was hammered into my head as a kid. I use the writing hold to draw for hours on end. Can't help but wonder if that nerfed my ability to draw in the long run but I've gotten so far into it I can't stand being reminded of this. It used to hurt to hold the pencil in any other way.
No. 2624518
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i know anons already complained about incel ocs on art fight and i dont want to seem whiny but allowing diaper fetish shit seems a bit too far for a site that allows minors, even if all ageplayers pretend its not a fetish and it "therapeutic" or whatever other excuse they use for their degeneracy
No. 2624853
>>2623243 I browsed it briefly and those were the issues I noticed:
the loli/shota art generals, for starters
sharty trolls (there is this recurring thread where a guy says he really wants to draw but he has ADHD and all sorts of issues that prevent him from doing so, and all of "his" comments are copy and pasted from previous threads "he" made)
literal shills on the drawing tablet general threads
people who don't draw
"pyw" (post your work) spam when it's irrelevant to the conversation
general crabs in a bucket mentality (difficult to understand without browsing the board)
slow moderation (troll threads stay up for hours)
No. 2624947
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>>2624312Hell I still “hold my pencil wrong” at 32. Your post made me look it up - my grasp is static quadrupod I guess. I didn’t know there were so many grips. I do feel like the tendons attaching my hand to my wrist get fatigued after drawing hard a long time but I’m only ever me so I don’t know if “normal” grip people feel the same or not. I’m a fairly established artist and only occasionally do people notice my grip.
No. 2625337
>>2624518Beacuse women and girls fetishizing
abusive men is a lot more dangerous to both the personal and society then some furry who never leaves his house
No. 2625360
>>2624853So basically, the moids.
I keep the shitter threads filtered but my main problem is even decent threads aren't allowed to exist without moids coming out of the woodworks to scream about women or their inability to pick up a pencil. Usually both.
>>2625185Most men can't run communities for shit. They always make excuses for their tranny pedo friends, then wonder their sever is dead or full of bottom of the barrel scribblers
No. 2625439
This is a multitopic reply but my artist friends are afraid that the new abloobloo law for nsfw content is going to harm their sales and muh artistic freedom due to censorship
>"I-It's not only for minors!"
It is, stop being pissy, now minors have to put their id to see gross troon shit and webtoon blushy yaoi
>"You should care because it also censors lgbt content!"
Nah, it censors degenerate content. I rarely see actually cute lgbt art, it's often ridden with fetish shit, they're gonna ban the goon and goon bait shit. Good. Stop being weird.
>"No one is gonna be able to get money from adult art!"
First of all, it has been that way since uhh 2016? When paypal started banning people for words in their invoices. it's not new at all, don't worry, you can get money for art if you don't directly state for WHAT art. Be clever, get smart.
Plus do they REALLY think that this law will censor porn, gross shit and troon shit? They're billionaire industries. BILLIONAIRE. Some even get sponsored by Visa and Mastercard (I saw their booths at pride parades), do you really think that they will take your money, kids and house if you share a titty drawing?
I'm in the EU, I have verified profile (no blue checks shit, I just submitted my id to get paid by the major payment platforms) and sadly still see gross shit online because I'm an adult. People complaining about the ban are stupid people or minors with already a porn addiction, is so fucking sad, kids shouldn't view gross stuff or troon stuff. Glad that they're blocking them, maybe even fandom spaces will get cleaner and I won't have minors pissing their pants because I draw "problematic" stuff.
No. 2625891
>>2625439honestly a stupid take. if this act was just about porn and protecting minors, why as i, someone in scotland, seeing posts about various political subjects being censored?
why is wikipedia under threat?
why are you so comfortable that the government is monitoring people, why do you not have a single bit of worry about handing over your ID or using your face to verify age, in an age of data leaks and sketchy companies AI training?
because this won’t stop minors, they’ll just use a VPN
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>>2625895I’ve thought of doing this or wedding portraits as a side business. Mainly because in the latter case most everyone who does it does a bad job and the former because it seems like an easy thing to schedule around my other commitments. Best of luck to you
nonny I hope you’re just as successful as the other anon!
No. 2625939
>>2625891I genuinely think that the anons posting about how happy they are about this censorship are either glowies or trolls. There's just no way they're all this comfortably ignorant with as much buzz online that this is getting. Especially with the Wikipedia thing. Wikipedia and the deepfake porn that started in South Korea.
Thread tax: This Artfight left me incredibly disinterested in art as a whole and I don't know why. Might be because the people I wanted to draw for weren't participating kek
No. 2625942
>>2625909I did it successfully as a hobby a decade ago, but it was all mostly local people and i think my young age helped my case (aw she needs money, aw she doesn’t need to pay rent so only charges $150 blah blah). I’m really gonna nose to the grindstone this time with a website and all. I really want to only work a part time job in combination with freelance pet portraits because as you say, easy to schedule…
Painting people intimidates me though. I have the skills for it but there’s a LOT less wiggle room than with animals. I would only be able to do that with perfect reference photos.
No. 2626007
>>2625891>why are you so comfortable that the government is monitoring people, why do you not have a single bit of worry about handing over your ID or using your face to verify age, in an age of data leaks and sketchy companies AI training?Eh, you are talking as if stuff like this doesn't already happen. Bank app? Has your data. Social media? Don't get me started. Payment processors? Same thing. You have google wallet or equivalent? come on, do you believe that they totally use this data for themselves?
Just by having a smartphone, we are already tracked anyway. Is wikipedia actually under threat? Like the countless times it said that it could get censored and to donate? It's not a doomer or troll take, it's something that was already going on since years ago, this time it got attention because porn was involved. Trust me, it's been happening since at least a decade, and people are crying about it because it's another occasion to cry about troonery censorship, if this was about literally everything else you wouldn't even hear a single sigh about it.
>>2625939Artfight is what artists that want to leech off other people's fame do. They only attack for the hope to receive an attack back, right now the majority of "artists" are people that want quick likes and want to desperately be noticed, I mean sure, you do you, but that's why it exist. I have no time to do artfight because I have my own projects to do and my genuine fanbase to grow, it only brings on people that will follow you for the hype of the moment and then will hide your posts or unfollow once this is done.
No. 2626104
>>2626007you don’t usually give your actual government ID to social media, is the thing. that’s why the data breach on the Tea app is currently so widely covered, because peoples IDs got leaked
payment processors and banking apps usually have a far more robust security system than social media or porn sites, date breaches can still happen, but that’s more likely to happen to twitter than your bank
as for wikipedia
https://cybernews.com/security/vpn-wikipedia-uk-online-safety-laws/but back on the subject of art - i want to join art fight next year, but i don’t actually fully understand the “don’t trace 3D models” rule - if i buy or sculpt something, that’s surely mine to do as i please, right? i sometimes sculpt or use Daz3D elements for backgrounds, then trace or heavily ref for them. it makes perspective easier and because i draw comics, yeah it’s a time saver. seems like a weird rule, especially as CSP has 3D models specifically for tracing/reffing?
No. 2626134
>>2626104>if i buy or sculpt something, that’s surely mine to do as i please, right?The problem is that it's almost impossible to verify if someone traced something that is theirs/that they bought and not something they happened to find somewhere. You'd have to offer proof that you own whatever it is that you have traced, and even then it's possible to lie or falsify it. A model can be from Clip Studio, but many people have cracked versions which theoretically would make the use of the model "stolen" if you want to be super pedantic and strict about it. It would open far too many loopholes that many people would readily abuse if given the chance. People are barely able to keep to ArtFight's current rules already.
And well, tracing models is a crutch, and the idea of ArtFight is to draw stuff yourself and exercise/practice while having a fun competition. Tracing models during it would defeat that point and would make it seem like you either 1. Are only in for the points/to pump out drawings faster or 2. You're unable to actually draw on your own without tracing a base, at this point just go train.
No. 2626143
>>2626134i don’t care about points, but i would like to do a lot of attacks, yes, while maintaining the high quality i try to have for all my art - i wouldn’t trace everything, that’s boring and i can draw a lot of things fine. i struggle a bit with backgrounds, which i’m working on, that was really the only thing i had considered, but i guess i don’t actually have to add backgrounds for attacks
the not being able to verify point is salient, i have a year until the next art fight so maybe by then i’ll be better with backgrounds
No. 2626177
>>2625972> I have no time to do artfight because I have my own projects to do and my genuine fanbase to grow, it only brings on people that will follow you for the hype of the moment and then will hide your posts or unfollow once this is done.ok
I mean I just want to draw characters. Neat characters go brr. Make someone smile, experiement with no risk to myself, etc.
No. 2626588
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>>2626104Probably want to stay away from this process of drawing (or t lling people).
No shade at this artist, I'm sure she was just having fun on tumblr. No. 2626595
>>2626427Oh
that is what you meant. I thought it was when submitted. If you meant via the conenction between you (the farmer) and artfight then yeah just keep it underwraps. Don't say what you're drawing or who you're drawing for. I guess you can post it on /ic/ and it'll be safe for some reason.
No. 2626708
>>2626667If you're drawing with your eyes open, you're honestly just a slave to the crutch of vision. Don't even get me started on digital artists and so called 'traditonal' artist with their pencils, markers, brushes and other implements of cheating. Finger painters are barely better, if you aren't painting by dipping your nose into pigments you've crafted yourself from ingredients gathered from nature you're really no better than one of those losers on Twitter bragging about being so great at prompting machine learning programs. Live models should probably be outlawed then locked up and artists painting landscapes and buildings that the are presently looking at are deserving only of derision.
The visual arts will only progress when we have bred a race of limbless, earless and eyeless slug people and get them to paint murals by rolling around in the mud, then inviting them to crawl on canvass floors in random patterns.
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>>2626667professional artists, particularly comic and manga artists, do stuff like this all the time
it can absolutely be a crutch if you’re neglecting studying fundamentals but it can also just be a tool. there’s obviously really shitty professional artists like pic related that use it as a crutch but it’s about finding a balance
i don’t see an issue in you doing techniques like this while studying the fundamentals, sometimes you just want to make a nice drawing
No. 2626829
>>2626813Idk about fear and hunger, but mouthwashing got delisted because they didn't follow itch.io's guidelines
>>>/ot/2626601I do agree that the entire thing is stupid though
No. 2627112
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Surprised that there isn't any discussion about telepurte's performative male feminism. This drawing give me "sex work is real work" vibes and he's getting flamed from both sides for it. Image is his oc in bikini. Spoilered to be safe.
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>>2627112He posted this post backlash. It's all so pretentious.
No. 2627866
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Still wondering what these were for. Charts like this used to be all over deviantart and tumblr. I kind of understand the ones about skincolor but what is the point of this… You won't remember to use a slightly darker version of a color unless you draw a ball and post it online? The viewers won't remember either unless they save the image to colorpick later?
No. 2627986
>>2627535a lolcow reddit sub is the stupidest idea ever
>>2627866i think they ran out of ideas tbh, but for some time i really thought they were trying to show what colors they used the most idk why i thought that
No. 2627991
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>>2627866I like the ones that show different textures but honestly I think this stuff will just handicap you and not develop your skills properly
No. 2628026
>>2627991Not really similar because those are texture ball a la Blender studies whereas
>>2627866 these are likely "starting palettes" which can be helpful for getting a colour and editting it quickly to suit your needs. Also good for pixel art stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people making these saw other people posting them and didn't understand what their purpose was, like most things with old Deviantart kek.
No. 2628933
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how often do you see female artists slowly becoming more pickme and devolving into drawing lolishit?
my personal cow is motaberrie, i followed her in about 2023 because her artstyle was very cute and pleasing to look at and i think she recently debuted as a vtuber. i watched her style and drawings change into more coomer shit that obviously panders to moids. left is her older art and right is her new art.
it was actually mentioned in the vtuber thread when i happened to browse it out of boredom which surprised me, i didn’t expect her to be mentioned on lolcow kek
>>>/w/348033 as those nonas said, it’s probably her degen friends influencing her and everyone knows how rampant lolishit is in the vtuber community
No. 2629003
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>>2628933For me it's Batrobin_k. I used to follow her in 2022, her art wasn't that super great to begin with but she started to draw porn as soon as she turned 18 and it's super repulsive, it's clear she does that for xitter coomer's attention when she started to add that oil shading and highlights on bodies in her art. Top pic is her old art, bottom is her 2024 and current art
No. 2629048
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>>2629030I took a pic of my Stonehouse copy for you nona
No. 2629064
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>>2628933nona are you me? I've been mutuals with her for years and seeing her spiral into this shit was so disappointing, I have her muted on everything after the lolishit bikini drawing lol. her work definitely got worse after she got addicted to playing porn visual novels kek
No. 2629068
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Anyone else with a big "phobia" (both meaning fear and both meaning absolute disgust kek) of big editors or overall the bigger industry?
I went to an animation and comic school to refine my technique for my personal stuff and everytime my teachers talked about how the normie industry worked, I always gagged a little, from the absymal payments (lets be clear, no one is really rich in the industry unless they get lucky and the vast majority of artists arent') to the overall bad manners of the boomers and gen x in chief positions. I've been told that being treated like absolute shit is normal because it's such a competitive world and I always told myself "Why should I be treated like that lol why people enjoy being cucked."
They also loved to say how being an artist and cartoonist is lonely because you have to draw until crazy hours and give up any distraction and I was like oh yea kek YOU do that, not me.
I get it, this world isn't sunshine and rainbows and I also get frustrated but I don't get why I should submit myself to being treated like shit to a bigger industry, some of my friends got scouted by bigger editors and yeah, I'm happy for them but they totally got nullified, they don't post original art anymore, they only work at shitty projects from putting flats to whatever slop spinoff disney and marvel are doing to drawing bean mouthed concepts, all of this while being paid pennies and they struggle to get through the month but their name is at least on the bottom page of a issue.
To me that sounds like hell. The newer generations are very vocal about mobbing and abuse at work but artists don't talk enough about abuse in the comic industry, in the last year of my studies, when our teachers and supervisors told us that some important people of the industry could visit us, I purposely shittified my work so they could leave me alone and not scout me (in some schools, your school contracts automatically puts you in some sort of cattle list for editors). I want to draw for myself, doing only stuff that makes me happy or inspires me and if I get angry at my art it's because of me and not for some old moid that got in the industry out of sheer luck, I want to create stuff where I can keep 100% of my earnings and decide my own hours, why should I stress myself? Internet right now is big enough that you can be your own editor and publisher.
Sure, for some people this is the goal, I don't blame them at all for wanting to be in the industry and working for other projects, truly, but the more I looked into it the more it seemed like hell for shitty contracts, shitty work (no sorry I wont flat your slop super hero issue), shitty treatment and abuse and for what? For your name on the bottom of the issue. I don't want my name to be associated to Marvel or Disney, people love to say Disney big bad muh capitalism king but will cream their pants if they get a mail by one of them to ink or flat two pages. idk, please tell me I'm not alone. I'm very jealous of what I do and of my own sanity, that's why I will always prefer to work as a team of one and also maintain that little of social life that I have, I prefer my name as a single author of a self published issue instead next to a big industry name that only sees me as disposable.
No. 2629076
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>>2628933For me it's potozaur/valarkspur. I already posted about here before in a previous thread so I won't go into detail, but while I do like her current teen ocs I fucking hate her ugly bastard x femboy tradwife harem shit so much. I miss her old 2020 art (on the right) a lot, it was very unique and had cultural flair. I didn't see a lot of Romanian artists who also added bits and pieces of their culture into their art like I did other nationalities. Nowadays she's larping as an emo kid for some reason
>>2629003Wait that's the same artist wtf? I know lacryboy retweets her shit allt he time
No. 2629090
>>2629068You’re definitely not alone. I’m close with a comic artist that’s doing pretty well and is lucky to have a good publisher that doesn’t control her projects completely. But it’s still a tremendous amount of hours for such little pay. I literally make twice as much as her working a regular white collar job. It sucks because I honestly believe comic artists are some of THE best and most versatile working artists today, but they’re taken less seriously than some fart-sniffing fine artists or space marine slop concept artists. They can draw
everything — characters, backgrounds, animals, props, vehicles — and they have to do it quickly and at a high volume while also taking into account composition, facial expressions/body language, and general visual storytelling. And they get paid pennies for it unless they hustle like crazy to sell merch and other horseshit. Understandable why you wouldn’t want to do it.
No. 2629107
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>>2629003I already replied to this post but i kinda wonder if she was inspired by her friend(?) @bnm6517? I also used to follow this person because i liked their scott pilgrim art, now they exclusively draw league of legends genderbent lolishota art. Left was their media tab a year ago, right is now. I unfollowed because i got flashbanged by shota butthole on my TL kek. I dont know if this person is also a woman though
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>>2629079I was suspecting she got groomed. Tbh her older art had some suggestive undertones (Picrel is from 2022) but it wasn't as bad as it is now, she draws exactly like every mediocre nsfw artist on xitter like the mentioned oily shading, body highlights and giving realistic anatomy on a cartoony art style. It's like she got a porn brainrot from twitter. Only 19 and already drawing ugly bastard pregnancy porn
>>2629098They used to draw suggestive art of Gideon from Scott Pilgrim so I assume it's a woman?
>>2629074>i always thought this person was some dirty old korean manDirty old Korean moids don't draw cute bishies or have favorite yaoi ships
No. 2629125
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>>2629110Goddamnit im with my grandma can a mod just spoil it if its bad
No. 2629143
>>2629090I'm ayrt, I work and do cons in my off time, I come directly from the artist alley thread.
I work a boring job but it gives me fixed hours and fixed pay with no bullshit in between (it will never happen that my boss will call me randomly when I clock out or during my off days), I use that money to invest in my merch, my merch gets sold for x5 the price. And I still have somewhat, free time to see my friends.
I am my own art ceo, so I choose how and when to work with my art, in my brief experience with editors (I was still in school), those fuckers would pay me per page (and not per hours) and one page would take me to one to three hours depending on the complexity, but same pay, would call me randomly at night because they got a call from some oversea company that wanted help (usually in Asia), wouldn't understand that my day off was my day off because no day off exists in the comic industry (their words), it seemed like such a fomo world to live in, it's hell.
I get that some people like to do art but are not creative, meaning they prefer to work on other people's projects, but when I realized that I was getting stressed because not only I couldn't do my stuff, so that meant no free expression and my inspirations were turned down, I did stuff that I despised for pennies in strange moments of the day because my boss chased the last project and wanted to call dibs on that. What.
I'm doing okay financially and mentally by not being in the industry because my sanity has no price and my sanity is restored by being in control, maybe I'm a bit of an autist, but having no control in a creative job field is the perfect recipe for hell, for me. Once I hired someone to help with my projects but I paid them by hours and not by stuff they did because I know how frustrating that can be, in the industry this concept is alien because some old moid says so, no, you get cucked, I won't.
No. 2629151
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>>2629048thank u nonna. picrel me being nourished by this image
No. 2629511
>>2629462nta If drawn by a woman? Yes actually kek
>>2629495No nona. You should just not make loli coomer art. Easiest solution. Planet still sucks though.
No. 2629693
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>>2629684Yes, she listed it in the description of her alt account
No. 2629735
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>>2629710She started to draw explicit porn very recently so probably not, she would just put the 18+ emoji in her username
No. 2629832
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>>2629735Koreans use
>19↑to mean "only those who are 19 or over [in Korean age] can follow"
I see other accounts using "20↑" or "25↑" to mean only people 20 or over, or 25 and over can follow.
No. 2629849
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do not check on the artist you used to follow back in the dA days, check to see what my favorite artist i had as a teen is up too and of course of course, bring me the gun, nona, i wanna end it all
No. 2629945
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>>2629849Fuck. My favourite rookie fashion photographer became a kweeroid too. I used to love how he ONLY had a laptop and a camera because he invested money into sets and new lenses. Then he got a phone and it was all over.
No. 2629996
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just fed a few examples of my art into chatgpt and asked for a critique and honestly shocked by how helpful the responses were, it even noticed smaller niche details ive been struggling with like shoulder and ribcage construction
No. 2630128
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>>2630119underwater knee high girls??
No. 2630141
>>2630131no idea sorry, maybe check the art book thread on /ic/?
https://x.com/manabukogathe photographers twitter
https://domoarigatojapan.weebly.com/blog/monthly-magazine-suichu-niso-the-underwater-knee-high-socks-girlslinks to purchase different months of the magazine. wow. a whole magazine. dedicated to this. gotta love japan
No. 2630508
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I wish I could spot errors in my art before I uploaded it, and not only afterwards. pic unrelated
No. 2630534
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Totally not a fetish, guys! I definitely don't try to purposely look like a child and pander to pedos and DDLGfags, I'm just smol in real life!
No. 2630745
>>2630655Most of the female artists i was mutuals with on Discord groups have since jumped to vtubbing , twitch streamers, a couple to onlyfans.
Its because AI made their normal income stream through doing art uncertain. I also know a computer programmer who is now working as onlyfans chatter (pretends to be the girl to their simps). After spending a few months without being able to find a new remote work position.
No. 2631105
Nonas, I'm gonna be real with you; I love tumblr's anonymous ask system. Sure it yields some unhinged things, but I'll never not love seeing absolute autists sperg out on anon about how I captured the likeness of their hyperfixation. They sent that to me personally about something I made and it always makes me both go "aww" and cackle like a fucking voodoo witch.
>>2630985Thank you. I'm so retarded.
No. 2631248
>>2630221Omg nona, I too have a "gendie" OC that I like to explore in a nuanced way (though I hid this character on AF for now…) I wonder how many of us there are.
I saw an artist who tagged their ocs with "female" and got a little excited… but then saw they have she/it pronouns listed haha.
No. 2631638
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speaking of artists who went down the degen pickme route, navimoond posted her redesigns of orion and her previously tif oc karo again. not much negative replies this time, didn’t see anything in the quotes either. if anyone can see the number of quotes this tweet has do share, i just know there’s a bunch of private qrts of aidens seething again kek
No. 2631738
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>>2631638It had 47 QRTs so far.
She posted it when most americans are asleep (good move), so that's probably why there isn't too much public confrontation right now.
No. 2631743
>>263173847 quotes??? oh my god there were only like 3 or 4 visible quotes when i checked kekk
what do you browse twitter on? quote numbers have stopped appearing to me on both web browser and mobile apps, it’s so stupid
No. 2631749
>>2631732i get what you’re saying, in mota’s case she draws her persona so when she draws sexualized images of herself and she gets a lot of positive attention, i can imagine her ego is stroked massively. it creates attention that she would’ve never gotten if she posted her actual face irl, which brings us to self insertion in general. men and women love self inserting in attractive characters in media.
as for female artists who draw a lot of female centric porn they’re probably just your ordinary pickme cases. so many east asian artists who are women themselves draw sexualized coom shit, especially jap women, they are a disgrace tbqh. a lot of jap women enjoy degrading their own sex and themselves probably because the moids in their country are some of the worlds most deranged and the culture there is extremely patriarchal. it’s actually crazy how normalized pedophilia/lolishit is there, you can find loli rape magazines in major bookstores and convenience stores for example. i can only imagine what that does to the psyche when growing up
No. 2632118
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>>2632106nta In Maple Story maybe. Are shortened words slurs? I never did understand that. I thought entire words were.
No. 2632225
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>>2631638They’re still absolutely seething. Kek
No. 2632386
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>>2628933For me it's kumaartau, although afaik she hasn't drawn lolishit. She used to never draw nsfw, she'd share stuff about how vtubers don't need to pander or do coom to have a career, blahblah. I think she experimented with a slightly nsfw piece once, got a lot of attention, and didn't look back. She also draws over her own selfies a lot, so who knows if she uses those for her nsfw pieces as well. She could have leaned into her passion for creepy horror art, but I guess nipples get more views.
No. 2632416
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>>2632387I got this from a meathead relative and actually found its illustrations and diagrams really helpful.
No. 2632420
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>>2632387I like this book because he breaks everything down really well, but the strength training one is probably more solely focused on muscles and bones and Stonehouse covers a little bit of everything re:anatomy.
No. 2632701
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>>2632387I love this one, there’s a pdf of it floating around.
No. 2632730
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>>2620277Sorry to reply so late but what's the point of streaming for hours on end with literally no engagement, her twitch page is just as dead. I can't imagine her making anything from her online content unless she's doing a lot more than her piss videos for orbiters. This is absolutely pathetic
No. 2632809
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i accidentally drank my watercolor water
No. 2632993
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>>2632809Get yourself a tumbler, anon. Never a good idea to drink from a cup/glass when painting
No. 2633015
>>2633013i think she meant for not posting for
like if you post everything at once and run out of stuff to post for a while you'll get shadowbanned
No. 2633025
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>>2630131I was that anon, this was my post
>>2457823I couldn't find much though. I think asking in /ic/ would be better. The photographer also has an instagram
https://www.instagram.com/manabukoga_underwater/ No. 2633037
>>2633025Thanks
nonny. I am so jealous of moids having so many high quality photo books to study from.
No. 2633317
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>>2633154I am drawing characters that are flying and this book is the closest thing to references of people flying. Not everything is about coom.
No. 2633546
>>2633027Damn I was looking there for a while, but you're right. You just have to search the author's name in Japanese
>>2633322There's no need to bog down the thread with moralfaggotry, nonna. If you have an alternative reference by all means share it, if not then scroll.
No. 2633749
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Does anyone know good tips on drawing clouds? I'm good at drawing and rendering most things but when it comes to clouds they look like toddler's scribbles
No. 2633839
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>>2633803Both traditional and digital. I want to go for more semi-realistic look or like those anime illustrations like picrel
No. 2633947
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>>2633839I have a number of tutorials but the main thing I always tell people is to keep in mind that space in the sky is also 3D, and that we don't live in environments with wallpaper backdrops like a fishtank. Always imagine clouds in a 3D shape like picrel
No. 2633950
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>>2633839samefag (>>2633947) With that in mind you can then just do what this crazy fucker did. Might work traditionally but I haven't given it a go yet.
No. 2633991
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>>2633984https://x.com/dsuV4sW8qYWHQVL This is the twitter of the person who made the tutorial. They have a metric fuckton of other free tutorials for making backgrounds in case it tickles your fancy.
Clouds seem to come in a variety of forms, so I'd use photos.
No. 2634034
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>>2632730Slapping myself for prolonging discussion about this retard but oh my god her art skill went into the fucking dumpster, so much worse than navimoons. Her vali-date tier tumblr art wasn’t the best but I’d take something that looks like a human (even with pronouns) made it any day over this made in a lab coomsphere sovl-vaccum. Also kek at sjwchan who made the thread sperging about this ebil white woman!!!! Drawing a dragon in a cheongsam for Chinese new year, like oh my god you do not go outside who cares
No. 2634418
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>>2633749 Their shadows are always on the bottom and they are always rimmed with light unless they are storm clouds.
No. 2634450
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>>2634034imo this doesn't compare to navimoons at all. tomatomagica's current art style may be painfully generic and uninteresting but at least it isn't painful to look at.
At worst it's boring and vaguely coomery, she could've had a sizeable fanbase making generic moe art if she wasn't a cowish attention whore who pisses herself and shows her dirty feet on stream. Navimoons/costellor on the other hand regressed significantly in both composition and art style, she forgo everything that made her original artwork charming and unique in order to churn out the same generic pin up art of her fat self inserts over and over
No. 2634454
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>>2634450samefag, heres navi's art style change in comparison.
No. 2634530
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I am so bad at drawing faces, i always need to have a reference by my side(like pic rel) or i end up making them hideous. Even after grinding loomis and other books about construction i still struggle a lot with it. I guess i am just retarded.
No. 2634541
>>2634530I can relate
See if watching videos of other people drawing helps. When I watch, I observe how they handle each stroke. Though it’s different for every artist
No. 2634673
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>>2634636I need anons to stop perpetuating the lie that she stopped drawing moidslop altogether. She drew like 3 BL stories, went back to hentai and is now drawing shoujo (picrel)
No. 2634717
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>>2634530It's opposite for me. Only moderately well at face expressions but neither else. Bodies, clothes, perspective, background everything is so confusing
No. 2634811
>>2634755eh, I never directly state that I'm a woman anywhere and it seems to be enough to avoid getting flack for drawing what I want or joking around/being crass. I seem to have gained a pretty chill audience though, both male and female, so it might also be that I haven't attracted the types to skitz out and plot your downfall over innocuous crap yet kek. Used to stream years ago and also had no trouble when drawing pinups, but maybe times have changed.
Are you drawing fanart or original characters? I do a mix, but there are some fandoms I won't touch (or will make a throwaway account for) because too many people in them are seething crabs that just want to rip others apart to get their kicks. Have never had problems with posting oc art.
No. 2634837
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>>2634454why do artists who make separate accounts for nsfw art always feel the need to virtue signal how pornsick they are in such a performative way? If I want to look at porn art I don't want to see your hornyposting. I have never heard of this artist in my entire life before LC but I regret looking at her nsfw account, she retweets nothing but gross moidslop hentai, it's not on the same Fanny level but it makes me very disgusted for some reason especially when a woman likes and retweets it
No. 2634863
>>2634755You have to have audacity. Unfair double standards come along with misogyny, obviously, but another thing that stops people from fucking with you is being unapologetic. If they can smell fear and weakness they will see it as an invitation to boss you around. The moids drawing their slop don’t think for a second they should be considerate of others. It’s your right to do what you want to, start believing it.
Don’t overcompensate, don’t be edgy, don’t provoke. Just be true to yourself and act like nothing you’re doing is worth scrutinizing. Live as though you have the confidence of a mediocre male.
No. 2634917
>>2634837Desk too small and flimsy to grind on the corners with any sort of orgasmic force. Mid pillows completely unspecialized for humping and kissing. They’re small and decorative, should be firmly filled and body length with husbando art on the case.
Uncomfortable and overstimulating comforters. High pile polyester will trap heat, sweat, and stink. Ornate and too difficult to wash especially considering the frequency they demand. 100% cotton waffle stitch is the best in the game, at the very least, a large terrycloth towel should be placed over the splash zone.
Curtains of shame subliminally conditioning women to hide and suppress their sexuality. Bed situated inside of repurposed closet, a symbolic yaoi enjoyment suppressant.
Decor reminiscent of a grandma. Avoid introducing the grandma element to any gooning experience, as it creates an arousal inhibiting atmosphere.
0/10 gooncave. I don’t have to see any more of her art to know that she’s a faker.
No. 2635081
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Some shitty artist on a discord I'm in was talking down on a community art project where artists paint electrical boxes outside. Bold of her to say its a "high school/college project" when her "art" looks like a middle schoolers deviantart page. She always shares her artist alley booths because she can't afford a full table and probably wouldn't break even. She can barely hold down a normie job and has zero dollars to her name. KEK she is in her mid to late 20s btw. Definitely coping. (Booth in next post)
No. 2635086
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Some of you need to briefly look through the works of the artist in the threadpic, while Waliszewska can make some of the most beautiful poignant works she also makes the most deranged and genuinely quite disturbing artworks and for that she is a personal cow. And yet she's a well respected artist offline and online, never seen a single person call her stuff disgusting even though some of it would be deserving of that. If she can get away with posting depictions of beastality on Tumblr post porn ban through charisma alone surely you can post your femgaze and husbando content kek.
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>>2634755I've done a power move and I just stopped talking to my straight moid friends about women and started gushing about my favorite male characters. One of them goes along with it and he's really a good sport, and he thinks my horny posting is a riot. Be jealous of men? Fuck that. I'll act out like they do. My friend even commented on it,
>I don't mind. It's different for women. From other guys that shit is terrifying, considering what some people I've seen have done (acted on their "jokes").I know this site is majorly anti-moid (sensibly so) but when you get that one friend who is just enough sentience that he has no interest in banging you but will talk to you and geek out about stupid things like art and games, it kinda eases one's mindset. I've gotten every single one of the insults you've mentioned, myself, and honestly? I'd rather just get insulted while enjoying myself than while grifting.
I believe in you anon. Draw your straight ships, girly men, butch lesbians, lipstick lesbian yuri, or feminine x masculine
toxic yaoi. Be free and cringe; it's the only way to exist on this bitch of an earth.
No. 2635181
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>>2635086Her works are gross and I don't particularly like them but I found this one funny
No. 2635435
>>2634755was just thinking of something similar except with east asian artists, mainly japs
>omg guys don’t you find those japanese artists with an url like “fhshwh7374hd73h” and posts beautiful masterpieces with rkgk so cool and mysterious??!?!?!!>you will find the most jaw dropping art you’ve ever seen by a japanese artist and see the caption is “rkgk”god i hate weebs so much for endless reasons. and i’m also dreading the day the next mass political event happens where people will pressure others into talking about. in the late 2010s it was black lives matter. in 2023 and now it was free palestine. now i was never the type to ever rt politics on my page, i only rt and post art, but it’s annoying when one of these events start happening again. so many tweets saying “yeah if you’re silent on this you’re weird ://“ “silence is complicity” “some moots are retweeting normal fandom stuff and haven’t said a thing about palestine..im about to softblock you”
meanwhile their favorite jap artists have never tweeted a single thing about recent political events, never rted a post about gaza but of course they never hold their precious east asian artists to the same standard. no one calls them out on it. these terminally online losers only subject their performative activism on other english speaking users. sometimes i wish i wasn’t an english speaking account so i wouldn’t have to deal with these annoying people. plus being an east asian artist would make you look “cooler” and more mysterious to your average art consoomer because they can’t help themselves.
this also applies to moids too just like you said, popular moid artists tend to collect a fanbase of people who don’t give a shit about political stuff so no one will dogpile them if you don’t rt about gaza.
another thing that always bothered me about being an english speaking artist in today’s social media art community is being politically correct with your
own art in general
>moid mangakas (mainly thinking about berserk) can draw literal rape, uncensored naked children, gore, body horror, war crimes, and sexualized drawings of underage girls and western people won’t really call them out on it even if they have a twitter account >meanwhile if i wanted to explore dark topics similar like that in my own works and comics, these fucking babies would probably go “errrm this is really intense, could you please add a content warning for implied SA? it makes me uncomfy ://“ everything has to be so sanitized. i want to create a comic that’s for adults but am already dreading the feedback from wokes who i’m unfortunately subjected to, the same ones who’d never have the same energy criticizing their precious nippon mangakas because of the language barrier.
i have thought about it and i never want to create a discord server for my own comic or community. a lot of webcomic authors make their own server to interact with fans and be a hub for their comic which sounds nice, but i’ll eventually have to deal with questions and weird accusations if you create art that’s centered on more mature topics. i just hope to grow a following that isn’t so politically correct and are more open minded, but unfortunately the art scene is filled with these type of annoying people. it’s especially impossible with bluesky and tumblr kek
No. 2635481
>>2635446oh definitely, i should’ve been more clear in my post because i’ve seen east asian artists get cancelled for drawing whitewashed stuff, and some dumbass jap moid had to delete a drawing and apologize when he drew a nazi character. i was mostly thinking about political events like blm and gaza, i have personally never seen western fans dogpile their favorite east asian artists for not rting palestine posts. i’m jealous that they’re free to post whatever they want without having some tiktok teenagers gang up on you for not following their performative activism.
i guess it’s just people being more comfortable in dogpiling people in their own communities. abigail who drew a whitewashed genshin character is an easier target for them than mr hashimoto who draws violent loli rape porn every day on twitter.
No. 2635860
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made a fresh twt account and posted 2 drawings. so far 1 like and 1 follower. and now we wait..
how long did it take you nonnas btw¿
No. 2635871
>>2635860It took me 7 years to reach 10k followers…granted, I haven’t been really active most of the time and barely post art. But I’ve been posting art in a good frequency earlier this year which brought in at least 1k-2k followers alone.
But there’s some artists who have accounts made 2 years ago and they already surpassed 10k followers. I don’t know how they did it, probably mostly luck and maybe connections with other already popular artists who rted their stuff
No. 2635963
>>2635860Honestly it's taken me over 10 years to amass about 3k followers haha, but my twitter has been used since I was a little teen just talking about whatever, and then I eventually cleaned it up and turned it into an art account. Despite the lower follower count I do tend to amass ~100 likes on original artwork, which makes me happy. The occasional one blows up way more than that. I also tend to be chatty and interact with other people's stuff, but I don't post anything other than art.
I only really started to gain followers when I was unemployed in 2020… so technically took me 5 years… lol. Perhaps I would grow faster if I worked hard to make fanart or just in general produced art at a faster rate, but I just don't have any interest in that. So I'm fine where I'm at currently, I just focus on making things I'm happy with.
No. 2636007
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What are the most ridiculous art takes you’ve ever seen? I still think about this person who said people who add blush on knees and shoulders are pedos/probably proship
No. 2636107
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Anyone else keeping up with rabbits.foots? I've been noticing that gendies keep saying weird shit to her which results in her reacting like picrel (stories now deleted)
No. 2636127
>>2636117eh, she's at least gendie sympathetic unfortunately.
Last year she posted an artwork about misogyny, cue TIFs completely misreading it and assuming it was TIF art, which made her equally as upset. Take that with a grain of salt though, it's been deleted as well and I can't find my caps
No. 2636209
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>>2636107I do not blame them for assuming its a fellow tif, spoiler for gore, tifs ruined any vent depiction of hating your body for being sexualised and exploited
No. 2636231
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>>2636228Pretty much yeah all the stuff you listed. I recommend reading books the most, I have a bunch of PDFs saved for when I finally get to them
No. 2636242
>>2636231I’ve only heard of loomis for years, and I did check out his books in pdf and mainly remember the head proportion thing (average human is 7-7 1/2 heads tall). But I have a stylized art style so my proportions are smaller with bigger heads.
When I say fundamentals I’m mostly thinking about human anatomy. Is loomis all I need? And do you actually have to take notes and draw what loomis shows or do you just read and memorize everything?
No. 2636286
>>2636242>head proportionsProportional rules and relationships are not necessarily one-size fits all, it's more about consistency and various elements being the correct proportion to another element rather than
anatomically correct, hence how art styles with 8-9 (or more) head tall figures can still work and look reasonable within the context of the art they're in (same for chibi/SD designs that might be 3 heads tall etc).
>do you actually have to take notes and draw what loomis showsYes, this is how to learn literally anything, you read it, take notes, then try to execute the advice given (both as shown, but also as applied to other subjects and contexts eg draw the loomis diagram, note what it demonstrates, then get a reference photo and apply the diagram's teaching to drawing it). Analyse and annotate your attempts. Rinse and repeat. This will eventually lead you to memorising it and being able to apply that knowledge freely.
>human anatomyAnatomy for Sculptors is a good reference, but tbh you can also just look at literally any musculature diagram, be it for artists or doctors kek. There are also plenty of youtube videos that can walk you through anatomy for artists. Try doing écorchés, both ones aiming for realism overtop a photo, and ones done overtop your own stylised drawings so you can work out how to incorporate anatomical details into your style without breaking it.
No. 2636339
>>2636286Thanks nona, I’ll try checking those out.
And this may be odd but I’ve never really “studied” before even in school, I truly did just memorize everything and thought that taking notes was pointless and redundant. Maybe it’s just the learning style that works for me and others are different and taking notes does help them. When I learn new things I just have it ingrained in my head and can execute it on paper later on
No. 2636378
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>>2636356I'm sorry but those were times of a bygone era that has come to pass and will never come back. Things will never be the same again, at least not in the scale DA once was at its prime. I miss DA groups and profile customization like a motherfucker
No. 2636686
>>2636356Me too nona! Like
>>2636682 said there's still nothing that fills the void for me.
No. 2636754
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>>2636356oh deviantart, you used to be special.
now your like every other websites now.
soulless.
No. 2636775
>>2636356DA was fun but what I really miss is old school tumblr kek. I was very young when I primarily used DA so my “formative” years were on tumblr before its gradual downfall, probably when yahoo bought it and banned porn. And this was when my usage was almost exclusively on desktop and not mobile so it was extra soulful
>got to highly customize your blog, many custom themes to choose from and even have music autoplay >so many subsections to the site from the normies to superwholock to the animefags to the aestheticfags and much much more, where everyone could cultivate their own dashboard and blog posts like their own Pinterest >has an ask feature where you can receive anonymous messages whereas you need to use third party sites like strawpage or marshmallow for Twitter >photoset feature is unmatched, you can add a generous amount of images in a post and arrange them how you like compared to twitter’s restrictive 4 images max in the same image ratios >posting a drawing under a hashtag still guaranteed you some likes, unlike twitter where if you’re a new account and try to use hashtags it’s going into the void unnoticed >TAGS FEATURE!!>all those other unique features tumblr has too like submissions, audio posts (does anyone remember those long art posts that go along with an audio, and you scroll through each image like a lyric video? that kind of thing is basically only possible on tumblr)Honestly the tag feature must be tumblr’s best unique feature. Nothing matches the feeling of reading people’s thoughtful comments on your art in the tags when they reblog it. It’s frustrating that most people are probably too shy to comment or quote their comments on other social media platforms because they lack a tag feature.
The sad is that tumblr is still running and hasn’t changed drastically like how da was ruined and run by fetish slop, nft, and ai now, it’s just that the general user count has dropped significantly and more niche now. There’s still lots of fandoms there but if you don’t have a fandom and mostly post oc content you’re screwed.
Oughta mention its algorithm too because I still have fanart I posted years ago getting random likes to this day. But only fanart because I guess its found by people who search the series hashtag, my oc drawings never get that same longevity.
Yahoo banning porn was the beginning of the end and the site slowly getting less traction was probably why more people stopped using it? Most of my favorite artists don’t post porn but they stopped using tumblr anyway. They all migrated to twitter one by one. I guess we just followed everyone and moved there.
When the Elon shitstorm was happening people claimed they were going to stop using Twitter, going back to tumblr or bluesky but of course most of them crawled back to Twitter. I don’t blame them, its the most active site for artists right now
No. 2637006
>>2636775Tumblr still has all or most of these things, the only difference is its userbase is lean now, like you said.
It's quieter there and maybe that's for the best, if there are less idiots clogging up a space it makes for a smaller but better community, so maybe nonas can take advantage of it, while it's still around at least. who knows when the guy running it will decide to pull the plug since it hemorrhages a fuck ton of money to operate. Then again people have been saying that for years.
No. 2637638
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does anyone know what zoolpal is talking about in picrel? i remember scrolling through a long as fuck google document apology she posted a while ago but it was very vague. what did she even do
No. 2637723
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I miss her nonnies. She always inspired me to draw with her raw autism power. Are there similar artists? someone who's really passionate about an obscure/forgotten franchise or someone who draws niche subjects very passionately.
No. 2638223
>>2638169I think for your sake consider changing it and more importantly consider how this happened, was it naturally the facial features you gravitate towards due to him being in your life or because he is a bad person and you haven't processed things? Design changes are normal and trying to protect your privacy is too. As an Ava's Demon reader, reminds me of the comic's creator who realized the
abusive demon character Wrathia she created as a teen was like her
abusive mother, years into posting her comic as an adult. You still can keep any physical or behavioral resemblances, but try to make sure you're aware and choosing them.
No. 2638437
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Found this turbostacy Russian goddess while looking for the fallout for that one incel skinwalker that’s posted about in the meet the artist and zoomer hate threads, Redkatherinee you will never die. Please support her!
No. 2638454
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>>2638441Kek these types are always quick to wish death on people that don't agree with their retarded idealogy too.
No. 2638483
>>2638454The tif probably intended it as a death threat but if anyone’s curious “fix your heart or die” is a David lynch/twin peaks reference where someone said that to a character who had trouble accepting a mtf character kek
>>2637723>>2638459I heard that meru has been streaming on twitch for now, I also thought she was completely dead but found people talking about that when I searched her name. She said that she wanted to come back eventually. Who knows if that’ll ever happen but at least she didn’t completely disappear
No. 2638525
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>>2638512You mean Telepurte?
No. 2638551
>>2638525Oh god that's the one. He showed up on my fucking feed. Just before this one he had his OC spread open her ass. How is he pretending he isn't famous just for coom, and be mad that's the majority of his fanbase?
I feel like to escape contraversy he's gunna pretend to troon out and claim this coomer bait is him
No. 2638560
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>>2638525Oh I think they're talking about this post. He literally drew himself on a pedestal. He's been going on a narc posting spree cuz people are calling him out more. So he's pretending it's because people hate women, thus himself
No. 2638572
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>>2638560Also most artists know that Telepurte cheats on his gf and is creepy towards his female fans. He was getting away with collecting nudes by saying he "respects" women and not in a sexual way and saying he'll make them famous via clout.
Trust most people are happy he's crumbling. Will he be cancelled? Probably not
No. 2638581
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>>2638572Him pretending his hate is because people don't respect women. Either or, his recent crashouts are weird. I think he's in trouble
No. 2638604
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It's literally in his sketces that he has a fetish for collecting nudes for "Artistic" inspo. Also sorry for deleting the last post. One of the people he was asking nudes from got freaked out
No. 2638609
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Last post I'll be doing of him. But he's a narcissist for sure. He thinks people follow him for hope and not porn and he NEEDS attention from beautiful women. I hope more people come forward, he needs to stop bothering women.
No. 2638619
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A lot of accounts have been getting hacked with these type of messages. Even my 30 followers account got a dm from a famous artist with a similar message.
Their accounts don’t seem to get hijacked by nft spam, nor do their posts get deleted, or get scammed out of money. It just seems like this is being done for the love of the game? Victims of this hack have their profile relatively untouched
No. 2638665
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>>2638581KEK reminds so much of the dresden codak freak. He just needs to put she/her in his profile and claim his coomerism is actually "sapphic" and super queer and people will kiss his ass
No. 2638760
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>>2638581The hoops his pathetic fans are going to to excuse their fap material and shallow views of women.
No. 2638778
>>2638760His fans are dumb and don't realize why people are upset and he's using women, yet again. First to build his coomer fanbase and now as an excuse to cover his ass.
I feel like soon he'll pull a Lily Tino and say he's a trans woman
>>2638766He's been drawing for a decade if you can believe it.
No. 2638785
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>>2638760Wait, this is a stupid argument. IRL women and a coomer drawing are not the same thing. The porn has intention to just be fap material. It's implying a porn drawing should be treated with the same respect as an irl woman, which is worse.
Then they wonder why women are scared of men.
No. 2638834
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>>2637778>Nta but you mean this CDR?Yes. This happened a couple of years back, but he sexually harrassed a 16 year old girl that he collaborated with and admitted to being a pedo, pic related. You can find posts about it on reddit if you look up CDR os29. I didn't take any screenshots at the time, but when shit went down, he also kept making jokes about what he did in response to people calling him a pedo in his soundcloud comments. Typical Japanese moid.
No. 2638839
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>>2638778>He's been drawing for a decade if you can believe it. So he is one of those people who watches a few tutorials and fe exercises for maybe a month, skims over loomis then gets perpetually stuck at that beginner level for their rest of their life. Tragic but all too common. He can't even do very basic foreshortening to save his life.
No. 2638849
>>2638778Spot on
He's a beginner with a god complex
No. 2638934
>>2638910there's no straightforward answer because people have different development but you should always be trying to learn new things and improve instead of thinking " i read one tutorial, i know everything now" and always should be trying to apply what you learn to make actual art pieces rather than half assing some "studies" without any actual purpose as a chore and then forgetting all about it.
If you have an idea for a cool creature thats based on a dog you saw , then study some dog anatomy, do some sketches of different dogs, study other artists with good creature design, and then try doing your own piece, it doesn't have to be a mindless grind where you draw random 100X of a random thing. Have meaning and purpose and you will squeeze much more out of it
No. 2638938
>>2638930yes, thats a level anyone can achieve in a month or two if they learning the basics and have some material like the loomis books or take an intro course.
>>2638930>and not something that gets this much attention.its porn, even the actual autism doodles get attention when its porn and they do it for enough time consistently.
No. 2639215
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>>2639106There's something so soulless about this thread. Everyone draws like shit and there's like 5 thread regulars which feels really pathetic for a thread that's just publicly posting about coom you like. picrel is one of the thread regular's fursona. I think it's kinda quaint, like a modern version of a sparkledog. Sucks that a 26 year old porn addict made this and not a 14 year old kek
No. 2639218
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>>2638778Wow, it's very bad if he was drawing for over a decade, it's especially noticeable with this piece. The only reason he's popular is because of his short animations
No. 2639331
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Sometimes I just want to say fuck it and adapt a simple cutesy style like picrel. Its fun for occasional pictures but I dont think I'd make it my "main" thing because I like drawing people with… yknow, noses and such. Anyways my point here is that I feel like a lot of my best pieces were in similarly simplified styles that take me maybe 30-60 minutes to do, and I kinda wonder if thats really the best effort to reward ratio? Like its kinda depressing thinking about how I'd probably do way better if I just drew everything in cutesy animu style. If this post is incoherent just tell me kek.
No. 2639356
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Why are people obsessed with art style? do they think you have to settle for a single art style all your life.
No. 2639360
>>2639356Glad you brought this up. Panty and Stocking's artstyle is a rare form of art style where it ONLY ever looks good on the source material itself. Every single
time I witness fan artists attempt to copy this style, it just doesn't look right. Nobody can even get their hands right.
No. 2639362
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>>2639327they got banned for doxxing and harassing people with in and outside of /dad/ i should've screenshot some more profiles but they DFE
No. 2639373
>>2639362Holy shit that sounds milky, who did they doxx and why? provide the full milk
nonny.
No. 2639376
>>2639334Sorry I dont think I conveyed what I meant properly, I mean that its like a really simple artstyle does so well; and whenever Ive done it it does well, so it just makes me feel like "why do I even bother with these more detailed pieces where I put effort into 'normal' proportions and anatomy" yknow? Its just discouraging. Of course Ill do them for myself but it just sucks when you dont get a positive reception to something you tried really hard on but some shit you doodled in 30 minutes gets a ton of love.
>>2639342Youre right, but is it not normal to want to see things you put effort and love into get recognized and appreciated? I just feel like Im always trying to balance "things i like drawing" with "things that get positive reception" and it fucks with my head. Social media is just a major mindfuck and I really dont like it lol. Ive been thinking of just DFE'ing.
>>2639351I dont get why you assume I hate drawing… I love it but the problem is social media is just not compatible with people who love drawing, it works best for people who will shit out whatever is popular, and that makes me kinda discontent so im just expressing those feelings here, in the thread where people talk about their problems with art and artists.
No. 2639390
>>2639376I'm not saying that you hate drawing, clearly you like it on some level but
>the problem is social media is just not compatible with people who love drawingimplies that getting external validation is integral to your enjoyment and you even let this influence what styles you draw. Imagine someone saying they love to play basketball but only want to play in places where the most people will watch and will do certain moves just because they know the audience will like it. That's exactly how you sound.
No. 2639415
>>2639390It doesnt influence what styles I draw though, I draw in maybe 3 or so different styles whenever I want, I just noted that the cutesy one gets better reception.
>getting external validation is integral to your enjoymentI feel like youre lying if you say that (hypothetically) never getting any sort of compliment or recognition for your art wouldnt bother you even a little bit. Everybody wants to be recognized and appreciated, but I'd like to imagine a lot of us that really love to draw would still do it in that situation. I really dont think its integral to my enjoyment because if I could show you what I draw most of the time its certified "shit nobody cares about" kek. My main fandom has been basically dead for a decade. Im just venting my internal thoughts of "sometimes I just want to draw slop and get popular off of it but that would be betraying what I really want to do and my integrity so I dont."
No. 2639447
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>>2639325I'll post it anyway before the thread closes. But yuh, he posts himself quite often in art servers.
But yuh, this is Telepurte. Him being a gooner somehow makes sense
No. 2639453
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>>2639447he looks exactly like the coomer wojak
No. 2639460
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>>2639447soulless, terrifying gooner stare
No. 2639462
>>2639447Oh, so
that's why he made this particular animation.
No. 2639466
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>>2639447The confidence that this guy calls himself handsome when he literally looks like the ugly face filter irl
No. 2639471
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>>2639463This was him talking about his last trip to Cali after visiting his gf. I'm trying to find where him and his friends also admit to sleeping naked in the same bed together.
We all think he's secretly a gay moid who hates women and that's why he loves devaluing them to sex objects
No. 2639481
>>2639393Reading that thread almost made me forget that this was the person who drew that vile chowder guro child abuse porn. Wait so the person in
>>2639362 was the person who was posting about dan on here? or somebody else?
No. 2639486
>>2639430to clarify, the offsite harassment was dan
the onsite harassment was some dude name wad. sorry for confusion i got a bad case of ESL
No. 2639491
>>2639486are there caps of this? sorry
nonny i just find it fascinating. I read through the dad thread and apparently 4 users were involved in the harassment? or at least 4 accs got banned.
No. 2639494
>>2639471This just reads as him crossing boundries, even with his male friends kek.
This guy can't keep his hands to himself.
No. 2639513
>>2639481it's was schmitty/pine/adler but i didn't have time to screenshot her profile. as for your second question, my best is some sort of group effort, mainly pine doing all of the dirty work.
there's a good chance they're lurking here as well other than that, i don't know that much
No. 2639530
>>2639501Art website where the gimmick is that you have to upload daily and maintain a streak. You get ranked according to your streak and if you lose you have to start all over again. It's good for building up the habit of drawing daily and the drama between the discord faggots is pretty milky.
>>2639513Interesting that Dan only accused a single user then. So is schmitty Pine/Adler? how did she even met Dan? i never expected the smiling friends ryona artist to get involved with DAD users lol. Wish i could be in the discord rn to get all the deets, but it would be suspicious to join now.
No. 2639746
>>2638797The other anon is absolutely right. I deleted my tumblr and came back 8 or so years later, and had a fan tell me openly that they did their best to track down my new identity because they loved my art. If that isn't dedication, I don't know what is kek.
I'm not even that fucking good.
No. 2639758
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>>2638930Most of the nonas ITT are being either very bitter or are overstating their own perception; he's intermediate. Coherent execution of art but with a very noticeable something being off. Though keep in mind popularity has nothing to do with skill level. It's how well someone has a grasp on concepts and are able to capture the thing they are attempting to accurately. (be it a style or referenced art)
I hate the guy but I'm not going to pretend he doesn't animate very well. His art is a hard meh. I think he's on the same level as puppychan if we ignore him minmaxing animation for however long that was.
No. 2639814
>>2639758Even if Puppychan isn't the best, at leas her characters seem lively. There's something hollow about TP's work. I guess it's just running through art tutorials and tracing nudes that does it.
I agree, his work isn't bad, but it isn't good either.
No. 2639833
>>2639828Assuming you mean Telepurte; large chunks of the nonas in these threads have mentioned that they like artists that draw coom for the style and are willing to steal said style. It isn't impossible to harvest diamonds from the rough, even if it's something simple like line weight usage (not in his case). Most of the time, people who
can't also mysteriously don't draw.
No. 2639836
>>2639820An intermediate would be someone who has a grasp of fundamentals and can draw even if it lacks polish or more professional design appeal.
His stuff is failing at and extremely basic level. Like literally not being able to construct basic shapes in perspective or have a consistent line quality or even basic simetry. I am sorry if this is contentious to you because you have a similar skill level but this is not even in the top end of beginner level.
No. 2639878
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This is how i feel whenever i try to interact with other artists on their posts.
What is the point of posting stuff online if you're just gonna reply to your close friends only.
No. 2639881
>>2639865To add
He shouldn't be anyone's standard.
He's on a leauge of his own because his stuff always looks off and no artist would want to replicate that. He's in a box floating in the void. He'd take that as a compliment but it's not.
No. 2639892
>>2639883I'm more or less talking about him using his fame to be a sex pest to everyone around him kek. I'm actually fine with nsfw.
Just most moids who draw it are too dumb to not be inappropriate to everyone around them
No. 2639900
>>2639894There are a lot of artists with autism actually. Some admit to hyper focusing for 12 hours at a time. A lot of them are on deviant art and tumblr.
Just pretend all of them are shy until proven otherwise.
No. 2639905
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>>2615160Coming back to this, she's being cancelled on Star Stable tumblr exactly for this, they digged through her old accounts and found she used to have Mengele as her husbando kek I can't. It seems she has moved past her SS hyperfixation and now is into planet of the apes and I'm watching her in horror as she becomes a zoophile
No. 2639911
>>2639905Why do some people wake up and choose the most degenerate shit to draw? Do they like this? Is it for attention?
Reminds me of that hypnotist furry
No. 2639914
>>2639886Nona some of them don't even send a heart to me, and they all have 4 to 7 replies at best so they can easily see what i left written for them but they just flat out ignore me, it just hurts especially when it's an artist i look up to. Sometimes i wonder if they can just sniff that i am an evil
terf they shouldn't interact with or whatever.
No. 2639922
>>2639914Harsh:
People don't owe you attention back
Soft:
I'm sorry to hear they don't appreciate you. Hopefully someday you find an artist who will at least give you a heart.
No. 2639929
>>2639914I've been talking to (or at, really) some of my favorite artists on socmed lately. Same situation. But I make sure not to leave insanely retarded responses, maybe even touch on the things they're asking about. Like if they post their 3D rendering for printing a garage kit asking what looks off, I try to be helpful by telling them what looks off, rather than
>omg this looks so perfector
>realNot suggesting that you're doing anything of the sort. She doesn't respond to me since there is a language barrier, but she DID accidentally like and unlike my response. So she sees it. I guess it's about why it matters that you're commenting. I just want to give them input, even if they see me as a subhuman burger shit artist.
I do also try to respond to some of the hyper autistic guys commenting on her post so that she doesn't have to, since she doesn't speak English and has said openly that she can't and has no interest in learning it. (I am aware that the translate comment button exists and I know she's pressing it) No. 2639950
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>>2639911>>2639905>>2639935This is simply the natural evolution of being an ''ugly old man liker''. Never fall for this psyop fellow nonas! It all comes back to bestiality. You deserve better than a disgusting ugly moid.
No. 2639953
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anons i was practicing so much every single day until recently because i got bored of it and i did get better but i was practicing and drawing multiple things, and im not sure i should keep doing that or just focus on one thing at a time
can anynona who got better after studying tell me what did you do? or if you did one and think the other option would've been better maybe
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>>2639356It's mainly because an artist's art style is the most recognizable thing a viewer will notice when scrolling on social media. Artist can be recognized best by either their art style or subject matter.
Anyone can spot a Loish or a Guweiz piece at a glance.
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Got to be honest Nonas, it feels like I failed and I should just cope with the fact that I never make money off my art, my digital art is intermediate level while my craft art I did a few anthro furry art dolls that look pretty good but nobody cared so I ended up selling them at 50 bucks a pop, I been doing this shit since 2013 and the most I'd gather was 67 followers and 120 likes on a meme post, should I do degenerate art doll like strangeguts to be noticed I do not know
No. 2640034
>>2639993yeah? thats what i mean with "i did get better" nona
i dont mean i just stopped doing studies and forgot everything when drawing lol, i just didnt do both at the same time but i'll go back to just doing studies and i wanted to get some opinions on how to go about it
No. 2640096
>>2639946Yeah. She's Japanese. I have a few artists that I talk to that are Japanese that
do respond, but primarily it's the Korean and Chinese ones that will meme harder than me no matter what I say.
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>>2640002I can channel these emotions nona; I'm sorry we're in the same spot. Though different journeys, we have been ruined by the economy. If there was more money to waste, more would come our way.
If you want to minmax noteriety, yeah, BPD eternal drama or grifting gendies is your best bet. I'm going to keep going the route of "fake it till you make it" before I turn back to porn.
Honestly we need more female coom artists. By which I mean artists that draw coom that are female and do it for female gaze. Fuck the puritan life; it was never for us.
No. 2640120
>>2640034nta Take your studies and go back to look at your older pieces. I know you probably have them on hand which is how you know you've gotten better right? (I'm proud of you for sticking to it by the by! One stranger to another..)
I think a nona earlier mentioned how she thinks that being a
jack of all trades is better than a master of one, since in the art world you will get fucked if you focus on humans and then drawn an animal and look like a beginner. You could go down that route of expanding your repertoire (recommended) or hard focusing on one subject until it grows old to you.
My personal opinion is that you can do a few studies for a set amount of time before drawing, so that you still get your daily studies in but it doesn't soak up all your time. Hope this helps!