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No. 2435593

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Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
-screencaps are necessary while talking about milk
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
DO NOT REPLY TO BAIT! REPORT AND IGNORE!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!

Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon

Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2
>where to find art
https://www.wikiart.org/es
https://artvee.com/
>other useful sites
https://film-grab.com/
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
https://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheel
https://freephotomuscle.com/
painting by :Artemisia Gentileschi
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili

No. 2435611

hi(this isn't a chatroom)

No. 2435614


No. 2435621

I didn't know artemesia painted picrel

No. 2435714

tfw i'd love to ask my mutuals things like "would any mutuals want to do an art trade" and maybe restrict the replies to people you follow only, but i'd always think of the artists who follow me that i decided not to follow back seeing that post and feel bad that they can't reply. i'm not that big of an artist, less than 10k followers, so it feels like not following back feels more personal. then they'd get offended and unfollow me kek, maybe when i reach a really big number of followers i'll be more inclined to speak openly to my mutuals

No. 2435726

what are nonnas' favorite books on male anatomy?

No. 2435727

>>2435726
I dont think there is a book solely dedicated to male anatomy. But stonehouse and morpho are great. I wish there was a book dedicated to drawing attractive men, like how there are japanese books that do focus on female anatomy and are targetted towards ero artists.

No. 2435771

>>2435726
i also don't know of any books on solely male anatomy, but my favorite are the ones with plates to reference individual body parts like charles bargue. if your style is more animeish then the taco point drawing books are pretty good too

No. 2435772

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>openly admitted ai proompter (Mayara Ferrão) in an art museum
Bleak

No. 2435780

>>2435772
ugh i'm from the same country as that artist (brazil) and she pisses me off. she uses ai like crazy and people give her a pass/turn a blind eye to it because she's black and from salvador, bahia (a mostly black-afro brazilian state). out of so many other amazing black brazilian artists they could've picked, they chose that lazy retard. it makes me so mad.

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>>2435772
>el salvador
nonny i am sorry but its a museum in a shitty third world country, its not the Louvre. My country had these traced pieces of shit in a museum and its a thirdie shithole, too. Museums in SA are completly corrupt and filled with nepotism and money laundry. Art schools here are a complete joke so the few talented artists like Alke or JCM end up being nonces who resort to porn to pay the bills. I would be worried when AI makes it to real museums where actual historical pieces by talented artists are showcased.

No. 2435821

>>2435792
She's not from El Salvador, she's from a city in Brazil named Salvador. It's still a shitty nobody museum though.

No. 2435842

Anyone else feel insecure about how your social media gallery looks when you see all your art displayed like that? I’ve always haaated how my gallery looks, especially on instagram. There’s not really a theme and it’s too colorful which makes it look busy. Those artists who have galleries that look pleasing to look at are my goals, im so jealous of them, especially if they have under 50 or 20 images in their media tab for example. It actually pisses me off, how were they able to amass a large following with such little images? A lot of them were just one year old or younger accounts, so it’s not like they deleted their old art.
I think galleries/media tabs that have mostly sketches posted with colored pieces sprinkled in between look best. But unfortunately for me, when I sketch something I just have a huge need to color it even if the sketch itself looks nice, im too coloredpilled. I still hate how my media tab looks so I end up drawing a sketch, coloring it, then decide to not post it because it would just shit up my gallery further, so I end up not posting anything for my followers.
Honestly what I want is for fleets to come back to twitter, it’s pretty much a perfect solution for me because I want followers to see what I drew, to show that im still active, and it doesn’t have to stay on my gallery/media tab, just a temporary thing. I’m just too insecure about media tabs/galleries tbh, these artists I look up to on ig have such nice looking galleries and I know they also deleted and tailored it too. But I think my instagram is beyond saving because i feel like deleting everything, I’ve already archived so many posts. I do want to start over but I don’t want to hide oc posts for this weird reason that they act as proof this was my original idea first, in case people accuse me of copying a more popular oc or IP series. Sorry for the long post nonas

No. 2435848

>>2433247
What the fuck. Where is this? Some art exhibition?

No. 2435896

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>>2435792
>That drawing
Is from that infamous Argentinian artist who traced art for her expo?

>>2433576
>Ask to her, probably straight, boyfriend to "out himself" by claiming he's a gay guy and he's dating a gay NB
>Three doritos later
>She's single

No. 2435932

>>2435842
>A lot of them were just one year old or younger accounts, so it’s not like they deleted their old art.
Might be that they did delete their things. Maybe account hopped. Could've amassed a gallery across several accounts. I think the main takeaway is that this isn't their first rodeo, and that they likely had to also do things that appealed to normies. There is shenanigans afoot for sure.

No. 2435934

>>2435792
Am I dumb or does her buttcheek look weird

No. 2435967

How do you get ideas to draw something out of your comfort zone? I wanna draw more men and backgrounds but each time I go back to drawing pretty girls in a white void. I wanna chop my hands off sometimes.

No. 2435989

>>2435792
El Salvador is Central American and Central America is a part of North America, though.

No. 2435995

>>2435967
>make a male oc
>project some of your life experience and traumas onto him so you see yourself in him and become obsessed
>make another oc to ship him with
>put them in a fictional setting that appeals to the kind of fantasies you like, whether it be traditional high fantasy, modern with slightly supernatural elements, scifi, angels and demons, etc
>build on this world a little bit so that you become invested in wanting to draw it
>this solves both the male and the backgrounds issues
This is how I got better at both, though if you're not creative enough to be able to write anything this advice is kind of useless.

No. 2436020

>>2435967
Write down a list of things you don't want to draw.
Draw them. Suck. Cry. Spend several days repeating the process. Get excited when one attempt actually looks nice. Rinse and repeat.

No. 2436023

>>2435967
Unironically use AI and prompt the exact opposite of the things you usually think when drawing.
>pretty = ugly
>female = male
>white void = city
that way you would get a basic prompt like
>"drawing of ugly man wearing casual clothes, busy city background"

No. 2436028

>>2435967
Nta anon I have the same problem. But I want to know, where do you all get your composition ideas or inspiration from? I'm practicing right now and I'm just being curious.

No. 2436085

Do any anons know of any great/really good drawing tablets for under $500? I’ve been trying to pick one out for the longest but I don’t want to get too stuck on one option.Apologies if this is a dumb question.

No. 2436123

>>2436023
I do that. Using the 3d poses/background from CSP works too.

No. 2436124

>>2435967
do studys of backgrounds and art of men you like

No. 2436125

>>2436085
Will you work directly over the tablet or use the tablet like a mouse? Because now the latest versions are cheaper than the screen tablet ones.
I have heard good reviews from Huion.

No. 2436161

>>2436125
Haven’t exactly decided which way but I’ve only been drawing on screen surfaces.I do wonder how’s it like using it the other way.I just don’t want to feel like there’s a limit in space to draw in but still feels comfortable to draw with.(integrate)

No. 2436299

>>2436085
I got a wacom intuos medium back in 2022 for $300 at best buy, like they just had it at the store. Maybe you can try going there and seeing the selection for yourself? Even though it's been like 3 years it still works really well.

No. 2436300

>>2436299
samefag, it was the pro version, not the version that looks like the grim reaper's etch a sketch, just wanted to say(learn2delete)

No. 2436526

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on the topic of jcm2 I noticed that he purged all of his older sfw artworks from his pixiv including the well known egg painting, I wonder if that has to do with him getting doxxed

its artists like him that make me reluctant to publish content with female characters because this faggot has drawn porn of nearly every single female character from brand mascots to niche webtoons

No. 2436548

>>2436526
this painting is still on his twitter

No. 2436550

>>2436548
I thought his twitter was suspended?

No. 2436552

>>2436550
I guess? But this painting was posted on his new account a few years ago
https://x.com/CitricoJcm2

No. 2436889

>>2436526
>I'm reluctant to post my art with female characters because someone might make porn out of them
Don't want to sound rude or anything but I seriously doubt your art is that interesting

No. 2436939

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>>2436889
Kinda doubt it has anything to do with the art being interesting. Moids are so coombrained that anything even vaguely female is fap materiel. If they can coom to cartoon horses they'll find a way to coom to some randos ocs.

Anyhow any artist reccs for mouths. I got super into Yuto Sano's style, but I'm open to anything really. I always struggle with mouths and want to improve. Think it might bring some more character/emotion to my pieces

No. 2437300

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Do any of you guys know Shiyado? I used to follow her many years ago and was a huge fan… Until she pivoted towards obsessively drawing Genshin Impact yaoi. I usually have no strong opinions towards fujos, but for some reason this pisses me off so badly. Picrel is one example of what would otherwise be a great piece that suddenly turns into unrecognizable slop once you realize its zhongluc fanart

No. 2437328

>>2437300
i've also stopped following artists for this reason. i have no strong opinions on the game itself but it sucks when artists who made a wide variety of fan art and original art just stop and make a hard turn into genshin slop. something about it is like a parasite that consumes their whole brain and sucks any creativity out of their art, it's probably all the engagement they get.

No. 2437382

>>2437328
So true, I’m glad somebody else gets it

No. 2437453

the new lavendertowne video is… something

No. 2437461

>>2437453
damn she's really running out of ideas

No. 2437475

>>2437453
i just noticed, did she actually drew autism speaks as Dream?

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>>2437453
I actually called her out on how this is tasteless and this her response. I don't wanna see dupont in a dress ffs(cowtipping)

No. 2437482

>>2437476
You comment is stupid, honestly. I think her art is ugly but moralfagging about it is just retarded. Its just fun at the end, albeit dangerously cringe.

No. 2437490

>>2437482
Nta but it's still distasteful

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No. 2437508

>>2437496
you don't see anything wrong with drawing companies who hurt a lot of real people as quirky evil gijinkas in a childish artstyle as a poor excuse for spreading awareness?

No. 2437511

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>>2436526
They'll coom to literally any and everything, so unfortunately that's just a risk you'll have to take. I had several people request some weird shit of a character I made (vore, her taking it up the ass, etc) when I made zero porn of her ever.
People like Blitzdrachen/Sifyro have stalkers that commission porn of her sona from unsuspecting artists, too. Granted, she's a furry so that makes her chances of that amplify tenfold, but shit happens.
I say truck on anyway once the initial shock is over.

No. 2437512

>>2437508
No. Its just dumb fun absolutely no one is getting hurt. You sound like the kind of person that would sperg at Hetalia.

No. 2437525

>>2437328
Y'know, I always found it weird that people don't make separate accounts for this. When I feel a particularly strong attachment to a media coming on, I'd make a separate account for it if it deviates from what I'm usually known for. Since most people don't actively comb out their followed accounts for their inactivity, it's far more likely they'd stick around, than if you flooded the account with irrelevant things.
But that might just my OCD talking. Back in the Homestuck days, I separated and isolated my sperging from my usual artwork.

No. 2437526

>>2437522
No. I am just tired of women getting moralfagged over the dumbest things while men constantly get away with heinous shit. Last thread everyone was sucking Range Murata's micro cock and now you want me to believe LT is evil and disgusting for drawing shitty gijinkas? fuck off

No. 2437530

>>2437526
nobody said that LT is evil? It's just a cringe idea

No. 2437531

>>2437526
Agreed. Yeah its dumb and I don't like Lavendertowne but there are bigger fish to fry

No. 2437533

>>2437530
>>2437526
nta "Dangerously cringe" was a beautiful way to put it, I think.

No. 2437540

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>>2437532
I found the original comment and this is definitely moralfagging, why lie?

No. 2437541

>>2437530
>>2437532
why you lying, you were calling it tasteless and obviously moralfagging about it and now you are backtracking. No one said it wasnt cringe, just that it doesnt warrant cowtipping.

No. 2437545

>>2437540
This original comment sounds like it was written by a kid. The absolute state of lolcow.

No. 2437555

>>2437545
Nonnie we get gendies, moids, and even cows themselves posting/lurking this site you think dumb kids aren't gonna find their way here? Luckily they tell on themselves for stupid shit like this.

No. 2437652

>>2437526
>not knowing that she's a commonly mentioned cow here
Nona have you read old threads? We talk about her here all the time. That anon is retarded for cowtipping though but nothing wrong with posting her new milk

No. 2437660

>>2437540
honestly even if i don't really like her art, i find her response very tasteful and respectable. and oh my godddd this nonny really dragged hetalia too.. >>2437512 you're actually a seer

No. 2437726

>>2436526
Isn't jcm2 a pedophile? No big loss.

No. 2437744

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Drama in the 2000s inspired gendie community is so silly considering everyone copies each other in making slice of life tif nlog stories that are just strung together scenarios vs actual stories.

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No. 2437759

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>>2437744
kek i went through the qrts and to nobodies surprise she interacts with fat fetish content

No. 2437771

>>2437744
retard on retard crime, beautiful

No. 2437774

>>2436526
You just have to do it. Suround yourself in a female friend group. Know they're in the wrong if they drew your character maliciously. You can't let this worry stop you if you want to create.

No. 2437775

>>2437771
femboy tifs cannibalizing each other is funny but I honestly hope they keep doing it just so they could make TIMs seethe and make them rope

No. 2437777

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>>2437744
>>2437759
>bimbo tif yaoi artist getting called out by their own
Kek finally, 1 down many more (like brujoari and fratboystrider) to go. I don’t care whatever reasons gendies get mad at them for, but I hope everybody looks back on this trend as an embarrassing cringe phase

No. 2437790

>>2437744
my favourite thing about all these people is that they draw obviously horny/fetish inspired designs but when confronted about it they act like they don't because they want to keep their audience. id respect them more if they were honest and pandered less but for such an inbred community i dont expect any less.

No. 2437896

>>2437777
this is so, so, so ugly. i even find ari's usual style cute and i can see it working as a regular animated show art style, but i struggle to see any redeeming qualities for this one.

No. 2437908

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>>2437746
>reee she's misgendering her own OC

No. 2437936

>>2437744
>cannibal tifs find out other tif changed oc pronouns at the last possible second for more clout and asspats because nobody would've given a fuck about her oc otherwise
I totally didn't know this. I'm so offended about so and so misgendering his or her oc, so like shocked or whatever. how will the y2k tif (self hating straight girl) high school romance prompt survive now?

No. 2437942

>>2435842
This sounds very OCD nonna but I’m the same way. I like my own work but kind of hate seeing it all thumbnailed out, even more now that IG changed their aspect ratio. I’m trying to vary things like background colors and level of detail to make my grid look a little less busy.
>>2435932
Or they built a following on another platform like a discord server or something

No. 2438118

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>>2432558
>>2432698
How depressing. This is an even worse downgrade than puppychan. I used to love her art style.

No. 2438204

>>2437508
You sound like a Twitter zoomer who says "media literacy" all the time.

No. 2438247

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>>2438118
GinjaNinja's faces are sometimes so wonky it makes me laugh. I find it fascinating that some of her characters look fine and some of them look kinda fugly, see bottom row picrel for an example. I think the first two are more classically anime, but the other two are difficult to bear looking at. I think it's a result of both trying to make her characters distinct and possibly the awkward stage of trying to change art styles.

The thing is she's been an artist for so long and makes so much art, so seeing this happen to her scares me and reminds me to keep on my toes kek

No. 2438316

>>2438247
what was the cause of this?

No. 2438381

>>2438118
The way the lineart got thicker and sloppier reminds me of the type of art degradation Shencomix had. Is this specifically a common thing?

No. 2438816

>>2438247
the heavy eyelids with the tooth gap look so stupid and punchable. and the orange haired character looks like a tim from that lesbian terf webcomic.

No. 2438873

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I wont go into much detail but I've managed to amass a large following because I had to adjust my art and content to a more simplistic, coomerish style (I was desperate, but the cash from kofi tips and comissions helped me move out of my previous shitty apartment).
I've thought of some elaborate ruse like fabricating a beef with my real account to draw attention to my real one kek, any tips? I feel like that line of work is starting to affect my self perception and the stuff i've had to draw is..well , any ideas?I didnt hone this skill for years to end up drawing cartoon porn,

No. 2438883

>>2438873
Why not just retweet your art or promo the account?

No. 2438892

>>2438873
Why do you want the audience from your big account to look at you real account? They followed you for coomer shit and if your real account doesn't have the same kind of content, then I doubt you'll get that many new followers even if you could manage some sort of beef that didn't backfire in some fashion (you should do what >>2438883 says if anything). imo you should just abandon the coomerbux account, draw things you actually like and return when you need money from it again. I have an account that serves the same function and honestly it's hard to lose customers just because you went on a long hiatus unless you're drawing something generic like big titty anime girls they can get anywhere.

No. 2438946

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do any Clip studio paint nonas know how to set the canvas so the 3D objects remain hidden beyond the boundary of the canvas?

No. 2438964

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>>2436939
>>2436939
Sano uses manga like MHA as reference, you can look into those artists as well.

No. 2438968

>>2438946
Clicking a different tool usually does it for me. Like clicking the airbrush tool. Keeping it on the object edit tool makes the entire model visible.

No. 2438973

>>2438968
holy shit you're right, thank you nonna

No. 2438978

>>2438973
No problem! Good luck on your pic, nonna!

No. 2438987

>tfw arthritis pain
How do you cope creatively when you need to take extended breaks from drawing/doing anything with your hands?

No. 2439009

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>>2438964
>doppo used as a reference
Based.

No. 2439011

>>2438987
I exercise so that doesn't happen

No. 2439085

>>2438987
have you always had arthritis or does it just get bad when you draw? if it's the latter then you just gotta learn to grip the pen/pencil less hard, gripping it too hard can lead to general pain such as wrist pain or carpel tunnel

No. 2439099

>>2439011
NTA but I also exercise and I still get hand cramps. It’s a grip thing. It’s hard to quit.

No. 2439120

>>2438873
Get into AI training and make a model out of your cartoon porn so uploading porn and getting money gets easier and you get more time to draw stuff you actually like.
At the end of the day it just porn I doubt anyone would care if it's AI or not as long as they can get off to it.
also it's your work so nothing is being "stolen" or anything like that

No. 2439135

>>2438873
how does one amass a coom following base though? i just tag my art as #oc and most of my likes come from followers, but always less than 100 likes. do you just use hashtags for popular series or do you not have to, and just draw coom? if i drew coom without tagging specific fandoms i'd imagine that my current followers would just be weirded out or something

No. 2439137

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anybody else watch captainjellyart as a teenager into hetalia? she trooned out into an insanely un-passing ftm and kinda disappeared off youtube, the whole thing makes me sad. tims make me rage but tifs just make me sad tbh

No. 2439139

>>2439135
i'm also wondering this, do coomers just appear naturally once you draw coomshit? i feel like if i tried to, my posts would still continue to flop anyway. my reach always sucks, twitter says my posts get around 400 views roughly

No. 2439144

>>2439139
kek I'm just imagining coomers rising out of ponds like frog spawn, beginning their march towards the nearest computer so that they might fulfill their purpose

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>>2439137
I didn’t recognize that name, but I think she came after my era which was UhOh-Beek/beekwhy and shadzu. When I checked her blog seeing picrel caused a visceral reaction in me.

No. 2439151

>>2439147
KEK her artstyle is so insanely girly
>beekwhy and shadzu
god i remember drawing their 2p america and england designs with my friends in school… miss the hetalia/homestuck era

No. 2439158

>>2439151
I have my fondest online memories from being into Hetalia so that whole era is just very cozy to me. I remember Beek and Shadzu had some falling out after being besties for a few years and the most that was ever said was Shadzu answering an anon ask saying to stop contacting her about Beek. I always was curious what happened between them.

No. 2439258

>>2439139
NTA, in my case they were just following me from the same circle, oc anitwt. Coomers are just everywhere and reblog even simple sfw cute girls on white background they latched onto my femgaze shit just because it features a cute anime woman.

No. 2439271

>>2439258
do you use any specific hashtags on twitter? all i use is #oc, so aside from that i just hope one of my famous mutuals like my tweet, and them liking it causes it to show up on their followers timeline thanks to the algorithm. i still feel like most of the people liking my art are girls and not coomers

No. 2439276

Any nonas remember lilyglazed/itslyssalala? We talked about her a few threads ago. I checked her newest twitter account and it’s still dead, however her Reddit has been very active almost every day for months now. She’s posting art there now too to their respective subreddits. I wonder why she doesn’t want to be on twitter anymore, I know she used to have a big negative reputation but that’s in the past and there hasn’t been any drama surrounding her new accounts afaik. Maybe she’s too traumatized by twitter in general?

No. 2439289

>>2439271
I don't use hashtags, I just got in the right circles and mutuals, good luck. I honestly don't recommend getting into coomertwt.

No. 2439309

>>2439139
Honestly, pretty much yeah. That and luck. I have a NSFW side that stayed with 10 followers or so for awhile but then one of my pieces exploded somehow ans gained over 200 followers overnight. Porn accs tend to be the ones that retweet stuff the most as well, on my main I get 1:20 ratio of rt:like meanwhile on the NFSW is closer to 1:5 or so.

No. 2439331

One of the biggest indicators an artist is either a moid or a huge pick me is if they draw women like lolis/always neotenous/big boobied mommies with very simple facial features (so not a shoujo style or sparkly eyelashes) while the men are always guts lookalikes, ultra masculine shounen shit. There is nothing more male gaze than that.

No. 2439341

do you guys ever talk about anything other than what is male gaze or not… it seems like every discussion circles back to this topic again and again, you all need to find a new special interest

No. 2439408

>>2439341
Kek that's why I stopped checking these threads as often as I used to. It's always either discussion about what's male gaze or pandering to whatever group, lolicon in general, asian vs. western artists, the same few questions about social media fame, how to rendermaxx or what tablet/paints to buy or someone going "I love this artist but they're a gendie/pedo/pickme/xyz". It's so boring

No. 2439430

Apparently gobelins has been withholding degrees from third year animation students (I dont know if that's even legal) and it seems that this animation school may have the same shitty university culture as Ringling, I had a suspicion things were getting bad ever since they started promoting AI art classes

No. 2439432

>>2439139
I've thought about strategically drawing the OCs of smaller coom artists (1k-2k followers) so they'd be more inclined to retweet it but the idea of getting locked into that shit kills me.

No. 2439446

>>2439408
Not to infight but the nonnas here are so miserable. They complain about /ic/ but the vibe here is just /ic/ without testosterone fueled goonerism typed out by hands with dried cum on them. I hate soulless male gaze shit as much as the next nonna, but they'll call out lesbian and bi women for drawing hot girls and call it being a pickme. They'll call a chibi drawing of an adult character lolibait, they'll talk about why it's a bad thing to post your art online with the same stupid crabs in a bucket anxiety mentality. This place is genuinely miserable and a detriment to one's mental health if you spend too much time here, lest you start policing your own art and behavior too hard and are no longer able to just have fun and not care.

No. 2439494

>>2439446
At least some of the faggots over at /ic/ actually draw too

No. 2439500

>>2439446
> they'll call out lesbian and bi women for drawing hot girls and call it being a pickme.
I don't get it? What's wrong with drawing cheesecake of the sex you're attracted to? Are lesbian artist expecting to draw yaoi forever?

No. 2439506

>>2439494
No they don’t lmao.

No. 2439534

>>2439500
Because it's sexualizing women so it's always bad. God fucking forbid a woman wanna see another woman look sexy without it being for a man. But in the eyes of the anons here, drawing any kind of sexualized woman means you're doing it for men, and even if not, if a man finds it hot then you're sinning anyway. Oh, but wait, if she's drawing yuri and then she suddenly decides to draw yaoi, then she's a fake lesbian fujo who secretly wants dick! If she draws butch4butch then she secretly wants to troon out! If she draws butch4femme then she's secretly straight and wants to look on brand for the skittle squad! I swear to god, nobody wants to police women more than other women. I can totally get how women who like drawing hot girls would actually start catering to gooner moids when other women won't let them catch a fucking break for the most innocuous shit.

No. 2439581

>>2439534
As somebody who draws cute and pretty women sometimes, I hate these takes.

No. 2439601

>>2439408
I have my own issues with this thread, mostly how it's filled with nitpicky nodraws who don't contribute but why do you even go to this thread then?

No. 2439689

>>2439601
Nta, but
>that's why I stopped checking these threads as often as I used to

No. 2439712

>>2439689
No, I'm asking what else do you/anon expect to see in this thread if not that thing she listed?

No. 2439739

>>2439712
Yeah, I see a lot of anons complaining about what gets posted in this thread, but they make no effort to post things they want to see. The women who use this site aren't your entertainment or social media feeds, you need to contribute to the threads if you want them to be different.

No. 2439740

>>2439601
>>2439712
I like stupid internet drama that relates to my interests but I don't follow any cows on social media so I depend on this thread for milk kek. Same with fandom discourse but that started getting repetitive a month in so I stopped checking it. I wish art cow general didn't die, that was such a good thread. Whenever anons talk about drama in here someone will inevtiably bitch about it and ask to divert the discussion to classical art or what paper she should buy as if only one topic can be commented on at a time.

No. 2439752

>>2439740
>Whenever anons talk about drama in here someone will inevtiably bitch about it and ask to divert the discussion to classical art or what paper she should buy as if only one topic can be commented on at a time.
oh god i loathe those newfags. Its like they dont realize where we are and why the thread is called artist SALT.

No. 2439756

>>2439341
do you think maybe that's why it's called Artist Salt? Because it's a place for artfags to vent? And since the same societal bullshit from time immemorial keeps happening, our vents are gonna be the same? Post your unrepetitive enlightened posts or gtfo

No. 2439777

>>2439534
>If she draws butch4butch then she secretly wants to troon out! If she draws butch4femme then she's secretly straight and wants to look on brand for the skittle squad
Are you bringing up complaints that happened in a different board or thread, because I can only recall fandom discourse where their complaints weren’t necessarily unfounded and had to do with other aspects of the art, like the dynamics or designs. Like a butchfemme artist who got hate for how she drew butches with bodies that came off undeniably male then turned out she had a porn side account where she gives the butch male genitalia

No. 2439799

>>2438247
She's a gendie now, which probably also has something to do with her degrading art.

No. 2439805

>>2439777
But actual butchxbutch and butchxfemme still gets scrutinized because something something it's lesbophobic or heteronormative when it's still gay? Butches are still women yet once they stop looking like anime tomboys it's too much for supposed lesbians who love all women?

No. 2439832

Why don't we have an Artist General thread for those of us that just want to talk about art without all the retarded drama and bitching?

No. 2439838

I miss the days of big cringey artubers bc then there was so much posting about actual salt. I don't have a problem with discussion but it gets annoying when people bitch about any actual salt that gets posted because they want to discuss the same boring shit over and over again in a circular echo chamber.

No. 2439847

>>2439832
Check catalogs in /ot/ and /g/. If there isn't one, make one.

No. 2439848

>>2439832
Make one.

No. 2439849

>>2439838
Seriously. I miss the Holly Brown days.

No. 2439890

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can we sperg about brujoari real quick

No. 2439899

>>2439890
thanks, i hate it

No. 2439910

>>2439890
Were crypto scams even a thing in the nineties/noughties?

No. 2439913

>>2439832
Because lazy retards years ago whinged that the artist drama thread needed to have art discussion as well and now we're here.
>>2439838
Far better days, the thread was at its best back then.

I do wonder when anons started reading the thread because the earlier ones were full of "Holly Brown is a FATTY" and the rest were filled with the usual bullshit and the exact same questions over and over. And all loli infighting itt is incomparable to the one a few years ago where anons were writing angry paragraphs to each other. We even had artists self posting to get attention itt. The only difference is that there's no drama as of late, we've always had cyclical thread wide repetitive discussion of singular people, the thread has been the same it's just severely unbalanced between artfag shit and actual drama and complaining about the drama is not helping. I'm sure tons of anons were sick to death of talking about LT for years but they changed the topic and didn't drag it out by having a tanty about it.

No. 2439936

>>2439890
Damn, still has to get those troon brownie points. She literally has to dangle keys for her fans and it works every time

No. 2439938

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>>2439890
trent has done so much damage

No. 2439950

>>2439832
the absolute state of newfaggots

No. 2440037

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>>2439838
Made me remember pentagrin kek. Her edgy ocs were so fucking funny, especially that Grell knockoff. She goes by c0ffin_fit now but I can't find any art besides stuff that's been reposted to ic and archived.

No. 2440061

>>2440037
Oh my god, I was just watching an archived video of hers where she tried to defend the fuck out of her blatant Black Butler rip-off ocs for nostalgia's sake. I miss the absurdity of the old art commentary community so much.

No. 2440069

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>want to go to art school
>there's one nearby
>look it up
>prep everything for enrollment day
>enter as soon as the forms open
>put all my info but i don't get accepted
>get put in waitlist
>no response yet
i only have till next month anons i dont even think im getting in, i asked a friend and he knows like 6 people who couldn't apply either. Anyone have similar experiences? if so, were you able to get in?

No. 2440127

>>2439890
>trap
TRAs already fully succeeded in killing off the word "trap" in normie and fandomy anime circles years ago, is "trap is a slur" discourse even still a thing in 2025? I think the only people that still use the word trap are the moid hentai fans still stuck with the r/anime sense of humour.

OT for the thread, but with how coombrained TIMs are and their obsession with "reclaiming slurs", it's interesting that they didn't just appropriate it completely into their coomposting.

No. 2440133

>>2440069
You don't need to get in on the first try. What kind of works did you put in your portfolio?

No. 2440188

>>2439341
do you know of any other place that lets you shit talk moid artists without their dickriders trying to defend them? to me it's actually refreshing to see people bash on the several moid artists i've known for years, thankful that i'm not the only one. and it was thanks to these threads that i learned about a lot of hidden disgusting facts about them that i could've never learned if i stayed on social media forever, like moscannablis or however you spell his name having a side account where he draws young girls being raped, or that famous korean artist who died a bit recently that drew bestiality with women (name was kim)

No. 2440195

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>>2440133
should have clarified this first but it's mostly not like that where im from. They just asked for contact info on the first call and the second call asked for papers (wich i had prepared). I just re-checked their website and apparently they go in order of the wait-list. So actually there's nothing i can do other than hope i get in and check some other places ig

No. 2440280

Unpopular opinion but as an artist the only thing worse than moid coomers is other women also insisting everything is coom for men. If I draw a cute anime girl because I think they're cute and fun to draw and I then share it with my female friends, none of whom think anime girls are sexual because none of us a are degenerate moids, then there is no reason for some moralfag to reee about it being lolibait or some shit like that. No, it's not. It's just an anime girl made by a female for females. "But a moid would fap to it" yeah because moids fap to literally fucking anything, it's not my personal job to control them. We're in a male-free zone like a private all female group and there's still always someone who insists it's coom for men.

No. 2440284

>>2440280
>men will fap to anything
True. There's a big difference between intentionally using design elements to attract coomers and just drawing something that coomers inevitably fap to.

No. 2440305

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>>2440280
Theres a huge difference between artists drawing their cute fotm anime girl in non coomer clothing and retards frothing at the mouth from being called a goonette pickme because they draw every woman or little girl half naked with H cup tits getting sexually assaulted. I wouldn’t care if someone drew Madoka in plain clothes but I would think lowly of someone if they were drawing shit like that Dickishly tif. It’s not rare for women to post shit for male validation online or for other women to egg each other on for men like picrel either

No. 2440307

>>2440305
nta Yeah. It's sad that certain art styles are associated with The Coom just because it's been abused in some capacity by others for that purpose. Like it taints the art style and any who partake in it are equally viewed as evil.

No. 2440311

>>2440305
She is so insanely cute and then she allows that to grab up on her… this is such a sad world.

No. 2440316

>>2440307
I swear to god, shit was not this bad 15-20 years ago when I was a teenager. It's like I woke up and something terrible happened. I see zoomers and gen alphas co-opting fashions that were popular when I was young like scene and sexualizing them when originally they were just teenagers wearing really tight jeans and t-shirts with a ton of accessories. what the fuck happened? I mean it's not like things have not been growing more and more sexualized for decades at this point and it was pretty bad in the mid 00s, especially anything relating to rap or hip hop but it's really bizarre coming across an entire generation that was clearly conditioned by the worst porn imaginable at ages that were inappropriate. any young woman sexualizing herself is obviously doing it for meal validation like there's just no other reason to do it. It's more normalized amongst some, i.e. black girls.

No. 2440338

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>>2440305
The insanity that almost all of Dickishly's social media presence is dedicated to this fantasy of being an ant-built black girl that's lusted after and preyed upon by a white gooner incel Dollar Store-Jeff the Killer, my god.

No. 2440346

>>2440305
I swear I can fix her with the power of friendship, I feel so disgusted seeing her so close to whatever the fuck that thing is, whoever is close to her needs to get a grip and save her from the pickme virus induced psychosis.

No. 2440350

>>2440280
Based take

No. 2440353

i went to comic con and saw a celebrity at artist alley, the creator of the boyfriends webtoon kek
her booth didn’t seem too busy compared to others when i passed by though, no one was there. sales must’ve been mediocre or low

No. 2440400

>>2438987
nonna are you a rheumatoid sister too? It really sucks and have had trouble coping as well. I basically just pursue other creative hobbies, like 3d modeling or irl painting. Obvi u can still overdo it, but its alot less taxing than holding a pen. I also just take creation with a less serious approach, and try experimenting or going out of my comfort zone in ways that lessen the stress on my hand. Also wrist braces+compression gloves, esp at night

No. 2440406

>>2440338
Probably shouldn't speculate about strangers online, but this is often a thing that I see self-hating women do

No. 2440471

>>2440280
I know a millennial lesbian artist who has been obsessed with the weebiest most degenerate moid anime since 2006, she definitely has autism or something, she draws a lot of lesbian pokemon OCs doing shit like grabbing each other's breasts in the same way Haruhi does to Mikuru and lusting after one another and giving subtle fanservice while looking cute. I love her work, she's very good at what she does, I admire the power of her autism, and she has always had a lot of male fans which frustrates her because she wants more girls to talk to, but she just ignores the creepy guys she doesn't like. Sadly though, because of people moralfagging and assuming the worst in people's art, she's too anxiety-ridden to post her art anywhere now and it's just been on nothing but toyhouse for the past few years. She was a huge inspiration to me as a kid and I really wish she was still able to enthusiastically share her work with the world.

No. 2440485

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>>2440316
Right? It's fucking bleak. I always say that I miss the age of the old internet when pedos and hypersexual people had their own bubble that the rest of us just side eyed and ignored. But as time goes on, I'm beginning to realize that every day, maybe, just maybe, I was living in a niche part of reality.

pic unrelated. I love ShiroiRoom. She makes cute candy gore (or did, idk)

No. 2440524

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Damn, that looks terrible kek and doesn’t even fit in with the rest of the face. Not a fan of the obsession with “styles” because it seems to encourage bad habits like symbol drawing.
>82k
Ok, do people just automatically click like when they see a drawing of bald people pointing out a character/style trait

No. 2440536

>>2440524
petty and retarded but i hate when artists do that swirly thing on the face KEK theyre always annoying and underage

No. 2440538

>>2440316
I honestly don't think zoomers know how relatively modest the fashions they are trying to make often were in reality because they get it mixed up with other fashions from that time period. Like assuming that club fashion affected daily wear teen fashion. IMO I don't exactly blame them I don't think it is necessarily intuitive that emo fashion didn't entail cropped shirts and bare bellies when that silhouette was more common to other fashions of the time period. Faithful recreations probably don't do as well on algorithmic feeds anyway.

No. 2440540

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>>2440524
This specific thing has been pissing me off for months now kek it always looks so ugly to me, even when skilled artists do it. It reminds me of creatures from old picturebook illustrations, it should not be used on human faces.

>Ok, do people just automatically click like when they see a drawing of bald people pointing out a character/style trait

Yes. Doesn't even matter if the exact same post has been made before. If it has a clear layout and depicts something people know it'll get likes


>>2440195
What? Everyone who signed up quickly enough gets in? What's the point?

No. 2440552

>>2440538
we have pictures and video from that time, zoomers just don't want to be faithful to the period because they want whatever cheap shit from shein to be acceptable and they treat everything like it's some inclusive label with no meaning, like gendershit.

No. 2440553

>>2440524
I just hate the obsession with little changes in art style rather than creating meaningful pieces. As soon as you're no longer a teen and all the novelty wears off, you find it's a soulless pursuit that leads no where. There's only so many pretty with a unique twist portraits you can look at holy shit. Recently just went through unfollowing a ton of people I used to follow throughout middle to highschool and you look at these people's pages and just feel…nothing. Might as well just jingle keys in front of your face if all you wanna do is see something kinda cool

No. 2440561

>>2439740
>>2439739
I honestly don't mind a lot of the topics discussed. I like hearing about women vent about gendies because that means theres more gc artists like me out there. I like salty artists complaining about mundane shit. What I don't like are underaged newfags who can't explain bad uncomfortable thoughts and feelings without aligning it to morality somehow. And nitpickers who discuss if the art style is good or ugly ignoring the point of the post, everything is a tumblr art style to them. The thread has been stinking of tourists who aren't really practicing art for a while now. It's why it's hard to start discussions about the industry too. Tangentially I don't mind questions about making art but I dislike beggars who want to be spoonfed tutorials and resources that has been answered previous threads. Just put in the effort, ladies.

No. 2440569

>>2440471
Be the change in the world you want to see nona, send her a DM letting her know she was an inspiration for you!
I'm sure she'll appreciate it and maybe have more heart to post for other women if she 'sees' you if you will.

No. 2440611

>>2440569
Oh I've known her personally for quite some time, it was a dream getting to befriend her when I was a child, which has made it all the more sad to me seeing her lose her desire to post anything online. She had the potential to become huge, I had always felt that she could've made a lot of money by selling charms or something, but her downfall began when people began reposting her MLP and smash brothers yuri, which upset her a lot, and then around 2016ish she began getting really skittish about the rising puritanism in fandom. Her interests remained steadfast on things made by moids for moids, such as idolmaster, I think it's because there's just so little things out there for lesbian weebs actually made BY lesbians, so by default you just kinda veer towards things not meant for you. But because of that, I can understand why she would be scared of becoming a target. I miss seeing her excitedly post about her OCs, but I want her to do what feels best to her. Her toyhouse has a huge disclaimer that basically ends with "please dont attack me this is all for myself".

No. 2440635

>>2439890
that's just trooned out trent from daria

No. 2440681

>>2440524
100%, the obsession with style amongst zoomer artists is a cancer. It’s always some arbitrary little thing like square eyes or whatever that they lock themselves into out of fear that they’ll lose their “signature”. The squiggly blush thing is one of the worst.

No. 2440695

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i like tamakid’s content but man the height difference with her bf really does not look good kek

No. 2440697

>>2440695
Wtf, is that Vinesauce?

No. 2440708

>>2439890
Would've been hot if it was a real woman.

No. 2440757

>>2440695
Damn, she is tiny. I'd be so pissed if I was the other girl kek she makes her look huge comparatively

No. 2440760

>>2439890
So, did brujo Ari copy Sammy fendi or is it the other way around?

No. 2440767

>>2440695
That's clearly a grown woman though fym

No. 2440851

Sorry nonnas but I need to get this off my chest: Does anyone find fotm goonslop rage inducing? Idk if it's my preference for original art or me just hating porn of non-sexual characters, but I hate seeing it on my twitter and discord feed. You can't go one scroll without a face full of poke tits shitting up my life.

No. 2440855

>>2440471
What is/was her handle? I love this kind of female artist
>>2439534
They're projecting their all-devouring obsession with men, they'll never relent or hear you out because men are central in their inner world. Ignore and be the change you want to see

No. 2440858

>>2440851
Sometimes I really wonder what kind of art some of you are into. I know that there is tons of coomslop out there but I literally never see any of it because I simply don't follow anyone who posts or shares that shit. Start blocking people. Leave those discords. Get better taste. Do something kek. You really don't have to look at things that piss you off every day.

No. 2440875

>>2440851
Yes. I dislike all goonslop art in general. Even when I don't like it for some reason it still shows up on my tl too. I've muted rts and blocked people and my tl is still never fully free of it somehow.

No. 2440887

>>2440858
Kekkkk I remember seeing some nonna in a different thread complain that DDLG bitches were all over her feed and tried to use that as evidence that they're everywhere. Nah girl, it's only you, you made your feed that way!

No. 2440901

>>2440851
I don't get any coom on my feed basically, I see a lot of fanart since I like it and interact a lot but it's always like on model without weird proportions or clothes. Follow different artists and your "for you" feed will change too, for discord just leave those servers if they're full of coomers.

No. 2440928

>>2440875
So you still follow people that engage with it. If it's random posts on twitter you have to check the option saying you're not interested and engage more with stuff you want to see.

No. 2440935

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Growing up I was “the kid who draws good”. I never developed a reason for drawing outside of it being a source of worth that I could return to when forced to confront others’ advantages in other domains. I only improved my work with an eye to what would look impressive to other people: rendering, anatomy, likeness in portraiture.

My self-esteem isn’t based on drawing good anymore. I want to return to art with a beginner’s mindset, for sheer joy of the thing, but I don’t know where to begin looking for that joy. If you’ve read this far, please tell me: why did you decide to start drawing?

No. 2440937

>>2440858
How many discords do you know that have women that aren't secretly troons? Stuff like bsky is easy but discord feels like a maze. and to answer you're first question, I like vanilla beefcake art which seems like a rarity these days.

No. 2440938

>>2440928
I follow hundreds of artists so stuff probably ends up slipping through the cracks even when I try to mute their rts. I click the not interested option as well but it doesn't seem to do much. This whole thing with assuming everyone who ends up seeing these things must be causing it themselves 100% of the time is just kind of retarded to me because even on other platforms I'll get random shit I never even engaged with (not coomslop) being recommended to me by default.

No. 2440941

>>2440935
I'm not good at drawing and I honestly don't even publish my stuff but I do like to draw. Ironically, I got into drawing because I was bullied and people at school didn't want me to look up, so I would stick to drawing and never looking at anyone in the eyes.
That's also why I got into reading, like I literally would get in trouble with other kids for looking at no specific point and I would get sent to the director's office for looking at people somehow, just looking, not talking to anyone or even doing any weird faces.
The thing is that I ended up getting into drawing because I have ideas, I was never considered good enough in many things and I never felt any pressure to learn anatomy and such, I just draw something and if I like it, great, if I don't like it, I scribble on it until I like it or I just erase it and start again.
Even nowadays I just don't have the patience to learn all that shading and lighting stuff, so I like to just draw whatever I can or feel like drawing even if it doesn't look like some hyperrealistic portrait of some old man with water droplets falling on his face.

No. 2440943

>>2440938
Just weird because I don't have that problem and also follow hundreds of artists. The occasional slip-up isn't something I find "rage-inducing"

No. 2440944

>>2440943
I don't necessarily find it rage inducing, it's more like it's just annoying to see basically and I was just agreeing with that other anon on that basis. And just because you don't have a problem doesn't mean other people can't have one.

No. 2440946

>>2440938
Honestly it might be because you're clicking on not interested, you might be subconsciously spending a few extra seconds looking at it more than other posts that you don't care about, and it makes you spend time hovering over it/you might accidentally click on the post.

No. 2440950

>>2440946
Maybe yeah

No. 2440953

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>>2440941
Thank you, this was interesting to read (though I feel bad that you were bullied, that sucks). It's cool that you draw completely for yourself. It's easy to lose track of the fact that drawing something and posting it online are two separate actions when by definition we just see art that someone chose to post on the internet.

There is a selfless case for posting art online, which is that other people might get something out of looking for it. But how much does this really apply to the average person's work? Like sure people are having rapturous reactions to Fra Angelico but who is going to extend the same emotional energy to a heartfelt but clumsy drawing of a cool anime boy or something

No. 2440959

>>2440858
>>2440887
>>2440938
>>2440943
>>2440946
See, this is why I hate seeing farmers shitfling about "ohh, you must be following those coomers, then!" Maybe that's how algorithms worked a few years ago, but every friend I have has different experiences with their feeds.
For me, I love looking at cows and cannot resist looking at milky shit. If I scroll OF twitter accounts and click their links, there will never ever be OF accounts in my feed. I search up some FOTM and for the next half day I get recommended posts from similar braindead zoomer accounts before they go away and never appear again. Strangely, the most common "uncommon" posts I get are from accounts that use Jamaicam Patois, they show up every 20 or so posts even though I don't follow or intetact with that kind of content. Also those south african "first person story" accounts.
Conversely, there's that anon who was posting in the instagram thread about how she cannot get muslim content off her feed no matter what she does and who she unfollows. One of my friends had to delete and remake a twitter account because something similar was happening to her with right wing content.
I think these sites have been datamining and trying to finetune their algorithms so much, that if an account happens to pick up one weird flag, it's over, you're trapped with whatever consumer profile it thinks you have. And it doesn't have to be something you've done intentionally.

No. 2440976

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>>2440935
unrelated to the post but i love asian miniature paintings so much (especially those with hybrid styles) but god damn is it a strain on the eyes and hands no wonder why so many miniature artists went blind

No. 2440981

>>2440976
>so many miniature artists went blind
uhh anon can you elaborate on this? I'm not familiar with miniatures at all but I'm having some eye issues possibly related to drawing. Maybe I need to rethink some things.

No. 2441005

>>2440981
kek nona youre okay just use good lighting and rest your eyes basically in the past because the art needed to be so small scale so it required alot of eye strain to focus and they had to paint under candle or lantern light (which is quite dull)

No. 2441059

>>2440959
Yup. I genuinely think it's by design, ragebait and somewhat irrelevant content is an excellent way to farm attention. Algorithms seek novelty to keep you hooked so you end up with weird suggestions clogging up your feed. These days i'm being fed reels/tiktoks by Pakistani ao3 smut writers about vampires and lipstick shades matching dick tips kekkk

No. 2441092

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>>2440524
I'm guessing teenagers and beginners are obsessed with art style since it's an easy way to make art look better without much skill. It's always been interesting to see influence from popular art styles, like how can you almost always tell if a Japanese person drew fanart vs an American

No. 2441109

>>2440695
Pickmecore

No. 2441132

>>2441059
> Pakistani ao3 smut writers about vampires and lipstick shades matching dick tips
how do i as a pakianon not know this community existed, good luck to them though

No. 2441135

>>2439430
Damn, video has been privated already
Do you have a backup somewhere nonnie?

No. 2441138

>>2439135
I had a coom fanbase once, I kept up to date with what was fotw and drew those characters in whatever the current coom meme outfit or scenario was, and occasionally ran giveaways for drawings
It worked at the time but I would have made more money at McDonald's, I stopped when AI became a thing because it's gotten too competitive anyway with how younger artists are less reserved about drawing this stuff

No. 2441149

>>2440697
Couldn't be, too much hair on his head. Vinny is balding.

No. 2441173

>>2441092
Honestly I don't mind this new trendy art style, especially compared to Steven Universe rehashes. I know it's the most obnoxious people who draw like this though.

No. 2441188

>>2441092
The new one is the Daria/mtv downtown/BrujoAri art style for zoomers

No. 2441261

File: 1741807896366.png (467.39 KB, 615x616, screenshot.png)

have these idiots ever seen an actual muscular woman? cause it sure as hell doesnt look like whatever roided up body building monster op drew.

No. 2441264

>>2441261
I’m tired of this dumb trend drawing. You see one and you’ve seen them all.

No. 2441267

>>2441261
Its art, who the hell cares. Muscular women also dont have massive titties but coomers have no trouble slapping double ds to muscle tomboys.

No. 2441268

>>2440855
Unfortunately I must gatekeep because I don't know who the fuck is lurking here and I don't want her to get harassed for openly identifying as proship and knowing someone who posts on the big bad terf website. She doesn't even fight back she just gets sad.
>>2441261
I started following that artist when she was drawing porn of these two but she keeps engaging with rarijack shippers who are trying to assert that their ship is better and her comeback is to call everyone butchxbutch-phobic and it's kinda milky tbh

No. 2441271

>>2441261
>zerdasher
Hey kek I recognize her from the fandom discourse thread >>2440450 Popular cow-ish chinese lesbian artist who ships appledash

No. 2441325

>>2440767
what i meant was that their height difference looks extremely stupid, especially compared to the two on the right who have a normal looking height difference. tamakid looks extremely out of place and looks unnaturally small, the fact that the other girl seems to have normal looking proportions makes it look worse. if tamakid took a photo shoot with people closer to her own height it wouldn’t look so bad kek

No. 2441336

>>2441188
That last style has existed before Brujo

No. 2441376

>>2441336
Nonna, can you read the two words before brujo in that post? Respectfully

No. 2441382

>>2441261
she drew rainbow dash hot also blue pony x yellow pony or blue pony x orange pony for me

No. 2441415

>>2440959
That would explain why I got Indian (dot) Ig story templates. I don’t even live there. Also I get AI mixed in some of my feed which I report as not interested but it still slips in.

No. 2441467

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>>2435726
Male model catalogue published by Maru Editorial. This book only has average-sized muscular men only though.
https://amzn.asia/d/f9RRhtr

No. 2441521

Have you gained an audience of lesbians but want to draw cute men? How have you dealt with that?

No. 2441533

>>2441521
Either make a new account and promote it so whoever is interested will follow or just post the men anyway and accept you might lose some followers.

No. 2441554

>>2441261
I think buff women are based and I'm straight af

No. 2441570

>>2441554
You're right and should say it!

No. 2441703

>>2441268
>openly identifying as proship
Which brand of "problematic" weeb girl autism is it nonna? Autopedo lolicon or "it's not bestiality if it's a fantasy creature" autist? No shade to her, I'm sure she's fine, I just find artists like her fascinating. All the degeneracy of a moid with none of the malice.

No. 2441711

>>2441521
Lesbianism in an inherently pick-me habit from tomboy moms if your art attracts that kind of audience then you are doing something very wrong.(ban evasion)

No. 2441910

File: 1741840515257.jpeg (657.49 KB, 760x1345, IMG_7938.jpeg)

Oh shit juby just talked about genice on her ig stories kek
Isn’t this the first time she’s talked about this drama outside of her twitch streams?

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No. 2441916

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>>2441914
Her last story
Hoping for a public nuclear melty soon

No. 2441924

>>2440681
squiggly blush, separated square eyes that are always grinning and looking to the side, nose that's only a horizontal line, hands that look more like a four year old's drawing of a flower, thin lines with a pencil texture… i know them all

No. 2441934

>>2441910
Good god how many months has it been since she started sperging out about this? She could go nuclear and post all the proof but she hasn't

No. 2441941

File: 1741841518987.png (19.18 KB, 602x672, zoomeralpha.png)

>>2441924
samefag here's my take on it. i'm not very good obviously that's why i'm on the artist salt thread not on the pyw one. shoutout to >>2441092

No. 2441950

>>2441261
How do you manage to suspend disbelief for blue and orange horse girls but not for a roided out woman?

No. 2441955

>>2441325
Some women are just short. How in the world are you actually critiquing the proportions of a real life human being?

No. 2441964

>>2441325
I think some of you are legitimately retarded.

No. 2442076

>>2442067
Posted in the wrong thread, nona?

No. 2442083

>>2442076
Thank you for responding so I can delete. You know how fickle clicking in the catalog can be.

No. 2442087

>>2441325
i agree tbh i cant understand how anybody would want to date somebody that much taller than them, looks creepy

No. 2442090

>>2442087
>i-it wooks cweepy
How do you tards leave the house. Do you even?

No. 2442093

>>2441325
>the fact that the other girl seems to have normal looking proportions makes it look worse
Do you even draw? I could understand you nitpicking the height difference but they both have normal proportions. The short girl is around 6.5 heads tall and is 45-50% leg, and the taller girl is 6 heads tall and is 40-45% leg. Both are very normal proportions for an adult woman, maybe a bit on the shorter side but still very common. If anything the taller girl has shorter looking proportions.

No. 2442117

>>2442090
yea sometimes? just saying its weird and not something id like. looks like she would have to jut up her shoulder to even hold his hand comfortably. i dont get it

No. 2442134

>>2440757
A skilled photographer would have positioned and posed them differently, Tamakid should be facing forward at least. If anyone should be in profile it's her friend (no, she does not look huge). Maybe bring Tama forward instead of having everyone lined up in a flat line. Some of the other pictures I saw looked better in terms of how everyone's proportions relate to each other.

No. 2442153

>>2440757
To me it’s the opposite, tama is the one who looks extremely out of place here. Short people, both manlets and womanlets can’t catch breaks

No. 2442160

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No. 2442163

>>2442117
But it isn't your life or your bf. You do understand that, right? No one cares that it makes you u-u-uncomfy.

No. 2442165

File: 1741848883679.jpg (244.03 KB, 780x1537, mgst.jpg)

I find this artist a bit uncanny

No. 2442169

>>2442163
ok(integrate)

No. 2442175

>>2442165
the blond pixie suits her

No. 2442250

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>>2441934
Well it’s growing..first twitch streams only, then its stories, now I just saw this, an actual post on social media, so it’s fully out there now
I just noticed that genice’s url doesn’t light up, did she deactivate her bluesky already? Damn things are heating up. Time to grab the popcorn

No. 2442252

>>2442250
She did not deactivate her account, @ing someone on Bluesky works differently, you have to add the whole name which includes bsky.socials thing

No. 2442256

>>2442165
Ngl I think it's pretty funny how the art she seems to put the most effort in is redraws of her own selfies. That's just my impression from a quick skim of her twitter though.

No. 2442267

>>2442250
It's crazy that she's been seething about this for months at this point and still hasn't shown proof or worked towards publishing her own christian manga first. I feel like it's going to be nothing kek

No. 2442273

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>>2442250
Kekkkk I cant wait for this to blow up in her face and even then blame genice.

No. 2442283

>>2441703
It's neither, it's a "monkey see, monkey do" type of situation. She has a lot of OCs and just uses the same tropes that degen moids do, like sister on sister incest and cute lolis doing cute things. She likes slice of life anime, I've never seen her draw anything truly degenerate beyond just mimicking what she sees in those types of anime. Yuru yuri is one of her favorites, for example.

No. 2442288

>>2442250
She needs to drop the proof if she's gonna go that far because otherwise she just looks insane.

No. 2442290

>>2442165
It doesn't look that bad, but it's kind of uncanny because her anatomy understanding is behind her rendering skill. Everything in the top piece has some realistic elements, but she drew the pupils like they're on a flat plane. The bottom one has the same eye issue as well as lack of depth in the neck area. Her more stylized pieces look a lot better.

No. 2442309

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what are anons' thoughts on this guy? just curious

No. 2442311

>>2442309
is he a troon

No. 2442312

>>2442309
literally who

No. 2442314

>>2442309
average male artist who projects himself through the imagery of hot women who are usually naked

No. 2442320

>>2442309
Reeks of self post

No. 2442323


No. 2442324

>>2442309
Around 20 years old, intp personality type.

No. 2442327

Anyone who's dabbled in rpg maker development in the past few years remember Echo607? She made some RPG maker tutorials, released two MV games with deviantart tier assets, had a kid then fucked off from the internet, but there's a weird amount of hate for her, and I don't get it.

She talks very much like an anime teenager in 2006 did, even out here in modern day, and so do the people who hate on her, so I have to wonder if there's some buried lore here.

No. 2442365

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>>2442309

the one with the girl and the cat painting is interesting because it's either the girl being the predator or the girl being preyed upon. i thought it was the former initially, and it rubbed me the wrong way because 1) the girl looks scared and lifeless 2) the suggestion about how this girl would supposedly predate was uncomfortable. im retarded though. it's probably based on picrel, which i like better because of its color and the subject's clear vitality

other than that i like how some of his works are geometric

No. 2442409

>>2442309
I hate this guy he has or used to have an alt account where he was posting nude pictures of himself. Maybe it's still out there… terrible personality too. I liked his art otherwise but he is insufferable.

No. 2442466

>>2442165
It's just regular photoshop narcissism.

No. 2442546

>>2442311
as far as i know no
>>2442320
report me then
>>2442409
i like some of his drawings but i had to unfollow when i noticed how often he depicts women in pain and suffering. he seems pretentious and is probably annoying as fuck IRL. he bitches about people qrting his art with retarded buzzwords like "me and who" but IMO that's all his art is worth.
>he has or used to have an alt account where he was posting nude pictures of himself.
i remember that. also his dick is freakishly big and not in a good way. it looks abnormal

No. 2442722

>>2442165
This art is probably the one that's suffering the most with the normalization of AI, since there's so many filters and apps that proud themselves on taking any image and turning it into anime or Pixar style, it's quite sad that in a few years this art will simply be forgotten.

No. 2442878

File: 1741882786868.png (8.47 KB, 312x192, 43614.png)

Anyone has good resources on how manga panelling works? i am using CSP. I am trying to make a short comic to vent my frustrations, but i am struggling to make it readable.

No. 2442882

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>>2442878
Do a style similar to nagata kabi where she puts her panels in short rectangles. focus more about the content rather than the layout in which you want to express it. when you get the flow of you you can eventually break the rectangles into cubes, then triangles, then quarter pages .etc

No. 2442918

>>2442878
How can you even struggle with readability? You can look at your drawings and see which parts don't flow as they should.

No. 2442932

>>2442918
I mean being able to portray a sequence of happenings while making it make sense for the reader. Even some mangakas cant do this.

No. 2442946

>>2442878
Take inspiration from your favourite mangaka do you like Nippon bande desine paneling? Or do you like sleak spirsl panelling? It depends on your style arakis book has a nice chapter on paneling (look up on the internet archive)

No. 2442949

>>2442165
Art and ethothery looks so weird.

No. 2443020

File: 1741888513523.png (149.01 KB, 743x677, juby sperg.png)

>>2442250
>If she continues to dig at this
>because she privately told someone that if she copied it wasn't on purpose
Juby is seething so hard that it's been months and Genice still hasn't given her an excuse to have the public meltdown she want to have kek

I'm mostly curious for what the public reaction will be when she finally gets tired of waiting and finally spergs out the receipts. The way she's been posting makes it look like she really wants to seem like the poor lil' cinamon roll people pleaser that is only being foooorced to make a scene because nasty Genice has abused her so much and pushed her too far, but Judy being the only one to keep bringing it up for months, using the receipts as an ultimatum/threat against Genice instead of just posting them, and now publically naming Genice even tho she still hasn't posted anything about it with the only pretext being "Genice mildly defended herself in private" makes her look like a deranged dramaqueen.
Her receipts would have to be really really shitty for her to not be able to convince at least a few people to take her side, but if they're just mildly shitty it could lead to some milky infight/discourse in the art community surrounding her.

Picrel is the continuation of your post
>insinuating that I was even remotely responsible for the destruction that she caused.
Either she's retard tier shit at explaning information and she's actually talking about different messages, or she's doing some hardcore mental/semantic gymnastics so she can twist anything Genice says into the most evil manipulative thing ever in hope that she'll finally have her excuse to have a melty soon.

Do you think Genice will say something now that's she's been publically named? I hope not. It's obvious how much Genice's silence is making Juby seethe, kek. It would be way funnier if Juby had to keep squeezing water from stone and make it more and more obvious that her threats are blatant drama bait. The less Genice responds the harder it is for Juby to claim she only posted it because she was forced to.

No. 2443081

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>>2442932
Scott's McCloud's "Understanding Comics" (you can find it on internet archive), specifically chapters 3 and 4 sort of cover what you're talking about. McCloud isn't a very good comic artist imo, but I think he explains things in a way that makes reading other comics/mangas with a critical artist lens easier. I'd read those chapters and then read a mangaka you like and see how they structure scenes. imho I think ONE (Mob Psycho mangaka) is very good at paneling, even his action scenes are very easy to read despite the actual art being permabeg-tier. You could also look at some filming techniques. Obviously not everything there applies to comics, but stuff like the 180 degree rule helps with understandability. >>2442932

No. 2443113

File: 1741892553275.jpg (2.47 MB, 3567x4096, vinne.JPG)

What media is this style of coloring/shading/lighting inspired by? It feels nostalgic but distinct from 2000s anime illustrations (at least the ones I could recall)

No. 2443131

>>2443020
I've been tabbing in and out of her bluesky post and basically no one curr of her flopped attempt of a callout post. Just random followers liked her post, although only one big artist (Saren/sarenstone) liked the post. I don't even see Juby's usual friends even engage with it. I'm convinced she's truly isolated in her seethe towards Genice both offline and online.
P/S: I'm the anon who replied to anon three years ago when JC/Artofchira made a longertwit about Juby after Juby also had a similar public meltdown about their failed friendship. I'm kinda tempted to send an ask to JD/artofchira about this Juby meltdown but I highly doubt she's going to publish the ask.

No. 2443163

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>>2443113
This picture reminds me of 2000s anime when they had a sepia filter-like yellowish effect but still distinct like you said

No. 2443169

>>2443163
I wonder what layer effect Abe uses when he fills the drawing with one single color

No. 2443178

>>2443131
Don't cowtip, nona. Just follow along and observe.

No. 2443262

>>2443169
NTA because he's an actual painter (iirc) he's probably using a layer to emulate an imprimatura/underpainting and painting over it like you would traditionally.

No. 2443270

>>2443113
i see a lot of korean art that renders like this

No. 2443285

>>2442165
Her selfies look so filtered it hurts

No. 2443333

>>2443131
Yep, I passed my eyes through some of her Genice related posts, and the first few got some responses but not so much the recent ones. I assume even her fans that got concerned for her when she started the Genice posting picked up on how spergy and vindicative her posts come of as and would rather not take a side.

No. 2443393

>>2443020
>"Genice mildly defended herself in private"
This is the biggest red flag to me so far that Juby is just a bad person. Does she want genice to just degrade herself about this forever? Does she want genice to cut herself zero slack? Does she want genice to have no self-forgiveness? She's not even denying that she copied, just saying it must have been a subconscious thing, which makes sense because Juby admitted to HELPING genice make her ocs. Doing something without realizing because you can only draw from what you know is a simple fact of psychology. I hope genice stays silent and continues to make Juby seethe.

People who hold onto grudges this hard and continue to be viscerally angry 6+ months after it happened are always, always, ALWAYS, without fail, a horrible person, no matter how they try to paint themself, unless that person literally tried to ruin their life or something but all genice did was take inspiration from her OCs, like what? kek, and now she's trying to ruin genice's life HERSELF.
>>2443131
People get a 3 person beef limit before I start suspecting there's just something wrong with them. (cluster B's excluded because they beef with anyone who breathes)

No. 2443420

>>2443178
you're right nona. Ive got my impatience gotten a better of me.
tbh I've been getting annoyed at her obnoxious bluesky grift by replying to my mutuals, she googled translated her korean comments too despite being Canadian-Korean herself. she followed and commented on my post too, I also ignored her way long before I found out about the genice beef I'm just looking forward to seeing someone to tell her off instead of just plain ignoring her.

No. 2443487

File: 1741910547750.jpg (1.55 MB, 2761x2444, GlrnFglbIAAMbBM.jpg)

am i crazy or is this such an eyesore? nostalgiaslop and mikuslop too. bluh.

No. 2443488

>>2443487
I like the concept, but there's too much going on at the same time. Idc about nostalgiaslop though

No. 2443494

>>2443487
Classic case of nostalgiaslop being unable to capture the concept of and the reasons for the style they're copying, only relying on superficial impressions and "aesthetic".
I'm a huge mikufag tho, how (mostly zoomers and coomers) online artists treat Miku is disappointing

No. 2443499

>>2443488
ive never seen an artwork so egregiously overuse textures, it almost gives me a headache

No. 2443519

>>2442165
Another narcissistic pickme , like we needed more of them.

No. 2443525

>>2443487
Painfully tryhard and and tries to be uneek. Not like other artists vibe.

No. 2443568

>>2443113
Old watercolor or marker anime drawings. Look for art made in the late 1990s to late 2000s range, especially fighting games or full illustrations for magazines or dvds. Or manga cover illustrations.

No. 2443576

>>2443262
he does the sketch traditionally and the colors digitally , and uses colored filtered layers and textures when polishing his art

No. 2443581

>>2443487
Ngl I actually like this, its like their own spin of frutiger metro despite the zoomer art style.

No. 2443584

>>2441914
>Dishonor muh good name
>I'm the victim waah
Sure… you sure sound like the good guy victim here, definitely convinced me onto your side s/ This drama stirring egotist could benefit from stfu, but hey she wants to ruin her rep im here for it kekk

No. 2443620

long shot but does anyone here have this drawing saved or rted of Misato Katsuragi from eva that's just a black and white drawing with the drawing interface in the pic? it's one of those cropped screenshots artists take when they share a wip of a drawing, this one had her with a drink in hand, it was just line art and it looked really good. but i checked the op's media tab and literally 99% of it weren't drawings, for a moment i had doubts that he was actually an artist since it was filled with spam of irrelevant stuff but i finally managed to find another drawing of his after scrolling very far.
i regret not liking that tweet and saving that drawing to my computer and maybe even following that artist, i'm still thinking about it today

No. 2443626

Posted 2 minutes ago, /ourgirl/ just went live kek twitch.tv/jubyart

No. 2443639


No. 2443642

>>2443626
>it was actually a project i helped with
>i'm pretty sure i was the one willing to work with her
>i thought she was a friend
>towards the end of last year i found out she was jacking my shit
>she kept doing it is the problem and she kept giving me these false apologies
>i took them for what they were
>it came to the point where i realized i was being emotionally abused and taken advantage of
>she even used my faith to try to take control of me
>it is way worse than you think, and it gets worse
>when i started to realize that she was not being a good friend to me, like she was deliberately going out of her way to try to manipulate me
>i tried to demand her an actual apology for all the shit she put me through
>i gave her so much grace and time to stop and pay respect to what this project was to me
yup here we go

No. 2443646

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kek her cronies d-riding her is so cringe

No. 2443652

>>2443626
Kek I'm watching right now and she flat out admitted the reason for her latest freakout is because Genice is in Hawaii at some convention and Juby is jealous

No. 2443656

>>2443652
For real?? I can’t wait to watch the broadcast reply later tonight kek, I cant listen in right now

No. 2443672

>>2443656
Yep for real! Her rant starts like 30-40 minutes into the stream, after shilin raids her. I was wondering why she only posted to Instagram and bluesky, but apparently she wants to save her "substantive" posts for Twitter. She says she's only going to post evidence depending on how Genice behaves. Genice defending herself to their mutuals really triggered her kek. Juby also told her viewers to dissuade people from buying Genice's merch and to spread the word about what Genice did. Juby seems really bitter that Genice is doing well while Juby is sick with a kidney infection. It seems like she blames Genice for her illness lol

No. 2443698

>tap back into juby’s stream after over one hour ago
>SHE IS STILL BITCHING ABOUT GENICE
damn ngl that’s impressive

No. 2443714

>>2443698
Shes been streaming for almost 3 hours and I swear she's only been actually drawing for like 10 minutes total

No. 2443719

>>2443620
I have heard he actually uses AI

No. 2443742

>>2443719
It didn’t look like ai. Do you have his url?

No. 2443743

>>2443672
>says she's only going to post evidence depending on how Genice behaves
>told her viewers to dissuade people from buying Genice's merch and to spread the word about what Genice did
Her fixation on having to wait for Genice's reaction and still holding on to the "oh but I'll only make a callout with actual proof if she makes a response that I can get triggered by" angle is bizarre. Does she understand how backwards it is to already be sending off her followers to be her personal army before even actually showing the proof? Anybody with a working brain would say you're supposed to show proof first before trying to ruin someone.
At this point, if she's gonna make it so obvious how desperate she is for an excuse to post that call out, it would have made more sense for her to just claim she had some epiphany about how actually Genice didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt and [insert bullshit therapy speak] so she's gonna post it anyway. Could have posted that callout ages ago if she had done that instead of having to stay seething for half a year. If she had enough braincells to realize this would come of as very blatant self-serving back peddaling and drama hungry behavior, she should have enough braincells to not send of her personal army before giving the receipts, so I don't understand what exactly is her reasoning for waiting so long for Genice's reaction.

No. 2443745

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>>2443672
>>2443652
Kek it's so obvious she's just jealous. Did she completely stop mentioning genice's manifesto about why god would forgive her for doing the same ideas as juby or whatever? I wonder if that even happened.


But I still don't understand how she has this many followers in the first place, her style is so ugly. She must've gotten popular in the early 2010s when there was basically no competition, I doubt she'd have more than 10k on any social media if she had started posting in recent years. And her posts that aren't her sperging about genice are so cringe, imagine being in your 30s and still trying to make your followers think you're quirky and cool.

No. 2443749

>>2443743
> I don't understand what exactly is her reasoning for waiting so long for Genice's reaction
She's completely obsessed with Genice and the fact that Genice isn't acknowledging her at all and just living her life is making her mad. Secretly she wants nothing more than for Genice to come back to her so she can destroy her. It's the same thing that happens with stalkers as in the more you ignore them the more obsessed they become with getting your attention. With the right cocktail of mental illness this can last for months and even years.

No. 2443750

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>>2443745
Pretty sure the main reason why she got viral is because of her dancing art..that was my first introduction to her I think, and these type of drawings she’d post would go viral every time, it’s why I followed her
I miss this type of art from her

No. 2443753

>>2443745
No, she talked about Genice's manifesto. Apparently she has it saved and plans on posting it if/when she makes a callout post. I think she said something about how, during their friendship breakup, Genice gave her 24 hours to save any "receipts" before she deleted everything so Juby downloaded it off of google docs. She originally gained an audience on deviantart, so you're not off with that assumption kek. I actually like the way she draws clothing and colors but her personality makes her art so off-putting

No. 2443794

>>2443745
>>2443750
She's been pretty big on deviant art and tumblr, probably before you could browse the internet.

No. 2443798

>>2443745
poor vampire boy has alot of dandruff, juby irc is one of the old internet "popular" artists which were huge(?) on tumblr think loish,that picolo ink moid and qinni so most def people just followed and forgot about her. her art style is definitely dated (and not in a good way but a tumblr quirky nu anime that i personally hate) and more so her story ideas( making a demon oc red isnt your trademark jubytard)

No. 2443809

>>2443750
Did prince canary or juby do those first? I know they are friends but I've personally never seen juby's art before she got mentioned here so I was surprised to see how similar their work is.

>>2443798
She's definitely stuck in the 2010s tumblr era. If genice copied her comic script 1:1 she'd still be more successful with it than juby simply because zoomers don't care about this dated style.

No. 2443812

>>2440524
Insane that this post is in the same thread!

No. 2443815

>>2443698
Is it still the same old shit with nothing new? It sounds like it here >>2443642
>it was actually a project i helped with
I think this makes the accusation lose weight, if Genice did copy her ideas then no doubt it's because Juby helped her out. How long has it been since Juby started developing her project to the point where Genice is said to be publishing hers soon?

No. 2443818

>>2443798
>>2443809
what exactly about juby’s art is outdated? i like it and never thought that it looked outdated tbh

No. 2443823

>>2443815
i think juby saying she helped genice with her project might be new? but it’s hard to tell because overall it’s still the same shit she’s always been whining about like
>boohoo genice backstabbed and betrayed me
>boohoo i want to ruin her career
>boohoo she is such a manipulative cunt
>boohoo my original content donut steal was stolen by this monster
>boohoo i’m just waiting for an excuse to expose her once and for all
>still doesn’t expose her after 12 streams and three months later

No. 2443827

>>2443823
>i think juby saying she helped genice with her project might be new?
I remember she said the same shit in one of the last threads so yeah, it sounds like it.
>still doesn’t expose her after 12 streams and three months later
I wanna say Juby's stalling because the proof she has must not be as damming as she's making it out to be but it might just be her wanting to wait until Genice releases her project.

No. 2443828

>>2443809
i just looked this prince canary person up. wow they are carbon copies of each other, why did juby never sperg about this artist? is it because that’s who she copied her style from kek? even her oc looks exactly like prince canary characters, more similarities than that devil oc of hers compared to genice. so genice probably did copy a whole lot more like jubyschizo is claiming, she did say that it’s “so much worse” than we expect in her recent stream kek.
but definitely awkward to see prince canary‘s art and juby’s art together. i’m guessing one of them or both of them fake being nice to each other about their art, or they just vibe together like artstyle sisters

No. 2443831

>>2443818
NTA but it looks a lot like voltron. I think it's fine, very cute in fact, but it does feel "this artist was famous on tumblr" kind of dated. Some anons are reaching a bit to insult her art because she's so unlikeable imo.

No. 2443834

>>2443818
Sans the coloring style (which is definitely modern), this drawing style is similar to the popular in the mid 10s in tumblr particularly with the fanart fujos. The voltron smirk is a dead giveaway. Considering she's in her 30s it makes sense.

No. 2443835

>>2443818
Yeah same, I think she has a classic semi-realistic anime art style, it's not modern but it's not something that I would ever call outdated either because it's not tied to one specific era.

No. 2443837

>>2443818
i dont know anyone else would remember this but her brown guy with glasses (whos a witch) was very popular by a russian artist back in the 2010s and whose style she mimics
>>2443831
>Some anons are reaching a bit to insult her art because she's so unlikeable imo.
i wouldnt say calling her outadated counts as a insult (her personality put aside) sinces shes fully convinced her ideas are fresh and new and everyone else is copying her when its not the reality anymore

No. 2443840

>>2443837
But aren't russian artists still drawing in this style? To me it's weird to call it outdated because it's like the most generic art style you can come up when you think anime and semi-realism. What's even a popular zoomer art style?

No. 2443842

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>>2443835
> classic semi-realistic anime art style
Sorry anon but I cant see anything semi realistic anime art in this.

No. 2443843

>>2443842
It looks like how russian draw anime

No. 2443845

>>2443840
>Russians are still drawing in this style
Kek I know but it was a specific artist whose name I've forgotten (she drew Loki fanart and is now a comic artist in Russia working for marvel)

No. 2443853

I think it's fine to update your OCs design and overall art style every 5 or 6 years so you don't like, completely fall behind, but mindlessly following trends kinda kills the authenticity of it. I'll use ctchrysler as an example, I've been following him since 2012 and his art, style and designs have always been very deeply tied to whatever fashion or aesthetic was popular at the time, so just by looking at one drawing of him you can tell exactly the year period it was made. Annie mei gets updated all the time because the artist wants her to wear trendy clothes and have trendy hairstyles all the time. He kept her essence and color palette so she's still recognizable but but he started with a korra inspiration because she was the IT animation girl in 2012, and now she looks like your zoomer waifu with wolfcut. If you want an unique character design, you need to try to be more creative than just looking at fashion trends.

No. 2443867

I took a break from using Clip Studio Paint since I didn't need the features it offered for my end goal. I went to check on the 4.0 update and I realize why some of my skills may have atrophied a bit as I was learning everything it offered.

I know CSP is tailored towards making comics and animation on a professional level, so the tools involved deal with time constraints and organization. But now I understand why there's a flood of dogshit in the webcomic and webtoon scene that all manages to look the same. I'm not even talking about bad art with sincere effort (which can still be fine for good writing), but bad art highlighted with bad technical handling.

I like recommending it to people because it's affordable when it's on sale, and it pays for itself if you work commercially. If I were working on a comic to publish or as a full time animator, I'd absolutely pick it up again. But there's a part of me that wants to gatekeep some of the features from newbies who start with digital art.

No. 2443891

>>2443867
Agreed.
I like using some of the features purely for fun, but I can't for the life of me use them in good faith on something I'm trying to shill or sell.

But I'd be lying if I said drawing on 3D models wasn't fun. It will be my new hobby kek

No. 2443899

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>>2443867
It definitely lowered the skill ceiling to a lot of beginners. But despite that the skill ceiling is still pretty high. There's a few 3rd party tools that I really can't live without anymore.

No. 2443903

>>2443899
my beloved

No. 2443904

>>2443899
i never understood why this tool is so popular when you can already fill in selections of lineart with clip’s paint bucket tool already…do people just not know how to utilize the bucket tool?

No. 2443917

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>>2443745
Eh, I’m not a fan of her newer stuff but looking back at her deviantart when she went by Joodlez, I’d still say she’s made some great art, even if not as impressive as it would’ve been to a 12 year old in the 2010s. Even with some sketches she posted as early as 2005 (preteen or very early teens I guess) you can tell she was genuinely skilled. I actually miss her old project Cut Time and find Witch’s Cross too generic/vague, I’m more interested in the mysterious traveling blind girl and her seeing-eye falcon than Juby’s self-insert who she projects her trauma onto.

Personally I don’t understand “outdated” as a criticism when a lot of people, including anons here, still admire 2000s era art. I honestly think artists get worse when they attempt to adapt to more “modern” styles (which I actually think happened with Juby in a subtler way). I unfollowed her in 2016 because she was annoying then too kek, her work’s lost some of its charm for me(because there’s so many more interesting artists) but artistically I can’t really hate other than finding her boring, she’s stagnated for a while.

No. 2443921

>>2443917
Holy shit. I didn't know Joodlez did anything other than Zelda fanart.

No. 2443946

Anyone have certain opinions on aspects of conceptual or performance art they don’t like? I don’t seem to get these projects that involve bodily fluids like related, especially with the reasoning and meaning behind it all just seems like a pretentious way to describe basic bodily functions.

No. 2443969

>>2443904
I use both, this method doesn't apply well on some line art styles. Why don't you give it a try.

No. 2443989

>>2443917
God fucking damn, I can just tell when some of those comics were written based on the dialogue alone.
>MPD
>mutters bad words with a face after it that the retarded mods will ban me for typing even if it's a direct quote
kek
She hasn't improved much in close to fifteen-twenty years. All she did was change the way she draws faces and the way she colors. No wonder she sees Genice as a threat
>substantially younger
>working with one of the most notorious anime studios with tons of industry veterans
>met her when she was just 17-18 so she had to watch all of this unfold
>meanwhile juby is aging and losing relevance
>decides to help her create an oc project
>realizes the project she helped create is mysteriously similar to her own ideas
>bpdchan narc brain twists this into an extreme slight against her
>again, even though she helped make the project
>view the fact genice didn't want to sit down and accept being berated as proof she's evil
>genice probably didn't know how to cope with bpd splitting and the newfound idea that she's extremely evil
>this is probably why she made the "manifesto"
>juby continued to berate her and genice decided to gain some self respect and end the friendship
>juby seethes for months, trying to bait her into saying something only to be ignored
>snaps and finally makes it public outside of the few people who come to her streams
This is probably what happened.

No. 2444010

>>2443917
Sovl, take me back.

No. 2444014

>>2443652
listening to the broadcast and holy shit she really DID admit that. if someone is doing better than you months later after your conflict and you seethe about the fact that they're doing better while you're miserable, then you were the problem 100% because just fucking move on and improve your life bro

No. 2444044

>>2443989
someone please archive this before she dfes it kek

No. 2444080

File: 1741965496361.jpg (1.03 MB, 2880x2880, style.jpg)

what's the name of this coloring style? Cold pastel?

No. 2444090

>>2444080
Are you a zoomer? Why does everything need to have a name

No. 2444097

>>2444090
nta but having names for certain styles helps one to be able to research how to do it better. it's not a new concept, though younger zoomies definitely do section things into different aesthetics more than previous generations.
>t. 26 year old early zoomer

No. 2444098

>>2444090
Sometimes it easier to call a style by a name but I never saw much reason for it. It's how the artist renders and draws their art. Doesn't matter what you call it, just is. I think the better question is how these artist use these styles to branch out and elevate their work?

No. 2444099

>>2444080
Impasto color technique (the Chinese type), and do not ask these reddit tier questions here again use the help me find thread

No. 2444101

>>2444099
You have that in chinese?

No. 2444104

>>2444101
The artists you've posted are Chinese so I'm telling you to look up on the Chinese sns so you can have a exact course suited to the style

No. 2444105

>>2444098
>better question is how these artist use these styles to branch out and elevate their work
yeah, that's what i mean, i worded my question poorly

No. 2444437

>>2444080
Go to Pixiv for that artist. Like the post. Their immaculate algorithm will pelt you with similar artists.

No. 2444442

>>2443853
no idea who that is so i googled him and all he does is draw his waifu oc, more power to him but i as a spectator find it extremely boring.

No. 2444443

>>2444080
>>2444090
>>2444097
>Every style now has a name.
The state of the art community makes me want to throw up. But that's the perks of getting older, innit

No. 2444481

>>2444443
Okay, well, back in your day not many different art styles existed. It was either the same cartoony shit or the same anime shit, but people are experimenting now.

No. 2444503

>>2444481
Ntayrt, there were different art styles tard, we just didn't need to label everything like neurotic freaks

No. 2444518

>>2444481
NTA, but no? People had just as varied art styles as now, they just didn't have the autistic and retarded urge to micromanage them that obviously came from the sane place as the stupid "aesthetic" -core trend. Fucks sake, not even professional artists or curators do that to that degree for example you could see so many styles within the pop surrealism movement that would be broken down and corroded into different labels and then become seperate and disharmonious from the movement. It's a fucking retarded and annoying practice, especially because the defining traits for an entire new established TT style is so minimal.
>t. zoomer

No. 2444538

>>2444503
>>2444518
I'm old enough to remember what kind of shit was on deviantart before 2010 and while there were different styles in the sense that no two artists drew exactly the same, the coloring wasn't quite as unique and, in fact, was pretty basic, and the facial expressions remained consistent throughout.
>this person likes anime
>this person likes cartoons and comics
>this person likes anime but only the americanized shit like pokemon and sonic
>this person like anime but is being shamed out of drawing it by their cartoon artist friends
After that, it was based on the individual, as there was a very "original character, do not steal" type of mentality. Zoomies encouraging each other to go after whatever style they want is wholesome, imo, and that's probably why they're better artists than millennials, because they're less focused on individualism and destroying one another for treading on an individuals sacred ground.

No. 2444586

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This is more of a vent, but I don't think it's going to be possible for me to get the art career I wanted and it's all because I once posted my art on lolcow. It's really making me want to kms.

No. 2444587

>>2444586
Kekkkk did a art curator see you talking shit about a cow they liked? You'll live nona

No. 2444592

>>2444586
ah yes because art curators are known to visit lolcow dot farm

No. 2444598

>>2444587
>>2444592
I'm just scared of the odds, I'm naturally paranoid. Or what if some gendie sees it and snitches or tries to cancel me? What if a nonna recognizes my shit art in the future and decides to spread the info?

No. 2444601

>>2441135
I couldn't find a backup but here's a change.org petition explaining what took place and Holy Fuck is it cruel what they're doing. (1/2)

https://chng.it/BzPMJYPYTP

No. 2444602

>>2444598
if you posted your art on the rate my art thread then i think you got other things to worry about that arent related to that, tbh

No. 2444603

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>>2444601
Shit, forgot to post screenshots (1/2)(learn2delete and repost)

No. 2444605

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No. 2444625

>>2444538
AYRT, not what I was talking about. Yeah, yeah, it's cool that younger zoomers and gen alphas are encouraging each other to use the airbrush or whatever but does that need to be labelled as if it were a species of exotic ant?

No. 2444626

>>2444592
Precisely kekkk

No. 2444641

>>2444602
It's not that one kek.

No. 2444669

>>2444641
Here you go nona, this contraption may help in the future

No. 2444679

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>>2443989
>bpdchan narc brain twists this into an extreme slight against her
>again, even though she helped make the project
Many such cases in the online artist community. I wonder what causes this? Is being completely cut off from real life and living in a social media bubble surrounded by sycophants the thing that manifests this type of mental illness or does being a famous online artist select for insane stalker bpdchans?

No. 2444685

>>2444625
I don't see an issue. Sure, I've been annoyed once before when people started asking what my art style was called in a comment section, as my style was made to suit my personal tastes, but it's not malicious and should even be seen as a compliment imo, for people to want your style. It's even quite convenient if you want to see more of a specific flavor of coloring style, in the past I had been guilty of wanting to see more of a specific type of art but not knowing the keywords to use. Quite frankly, I'm envious that these teens are living their best life in this way. When I was their age, I had to practically live on the tumblr blogs of the artists I wanted to study and was frustrated that I couldn't find anything similar, and whenever I did, I got a rush of excitement. The world changing is hard to deal with, but it's not always bad because it's different from before.

No. 2444710

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>>2444598
Kek your art isn't anywhere near as unique as you think it is. Plenty of people probably have the same style. You're being paranoid over nothing. You'll be fine, I promise. If you do get accused, you can either ignore it or deny. It's on them to provide proof and to answer why they were on an evil terf ib anyway

No. 2444808

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>>2443917
>Personally I don’t understand “outdated” as a criticism when a lot of people, including anons here, still admire 2000s era art.
Any artwork can look dated, but tumblrslop definitely went out of fashion. No one is looking back at steven universe beanmouths and voltron yaoi and wishing to return to that. Y2K is trendy right now, most people don't actually care for original art from back then though. They want Ami0Amii or burjo ari or something. Same aesthetics but with an update. I've seen anons complain about zoomers "not understanding" alt fashion from back then because no one was dressing in the revealing way people are now but that's the point. It's not about completely redoing old stuff, it's about using it as an inspiration and making something that would be cool now

No. 2444819

>>2444808
>>2443917
>>2444808
It's just cylical, mid-late 2000s styles (and fanart) wouldn't look out of place right now, that my little pony picture would especially do numbers and everything else in the collage would too. It's popular styles that are more recent that looks dated, like from 2018

No. 2444942


No. 2445063

>>2443891
ayrt but drawing on the models is so much fun. I can see it being useful for a lot of cases, whether or not you make your own models.

>>2443946
I like performance art, but the automatic resort to grossness, violence, and biohazards always feel so pointless and cheap.
Give me Kirsha Kaechele's Koordinated Kunt Walk.

No. 2445139

File: 1742014524014.png (1.9 MB, 1423x792, autism.png)

autism drives people together and i love to see it, but ngl i am jealous these kind of autists can come up with these crazy pieces for fanart of silly kiddy media while my idea of fanart is… what if this time x stood inside the white void?

No. 2445169

>>2444685
>>2444538
I'm more nostalgic for when artists didn't chase art styles to follow quicker trends. A lot of the artists skinwalked now developed their style for years, like rei.

No. 2445221

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i just found this on my feed. how do normies not realize his "magical improvement" is just aishit tracing? so many of the comments/quotes are people saying they want to kill themselves because they'll never improve that fast ahaha what the fuck… we are doomed

No. 2445226

Is studying from porn the fastest way to get better at anatomy and rendering skin?

No. 2445229

>>2445226
No. It's actually the slowest.


>>2445139
Those compositions didn't come to them in a dream, you could also do this if you slowly started adding more and more elements to your drawings of people standing in the void.

No. 2445230

>>2445227
>>2445229
What is the best way?

No. 2445231

>>2445226
No. You’re not going to learn muscle or skeletal structure any faster by looking at people in retarded strained sex positions. Just study normally.

No. 2445232

>>2445230
There is no such thing. It's over.

No. 2445236

>>2445232
Quit that, no dooming
>>2445230
Practice in the mirror, experiment with different lighting and distances. Start with gestures. Attend a live drawing class if you can, some colleges hold them

No. 2445245

>>2445230
studying photos -made- for the purpose of being drawn. I use trueref dot io. Granted you have to accept most men in these reference sites are ugly, but so are men in porn

No. 2445330

>>2445226
I'll provide the alternative perspective here.
Yes.
Studying porn in a sincere manner allows you to find humans in weird poses that shows the elasticity and range of their bodies. Obviously it depends on what kind of porn you're studying, but it can help. I think I made the biggest improvement in studying things like the weight of breast on the ribcage shifting when arms are raised or lowered at various angles due to porn. But there is no definitive way to learn anatomy..
Rendering skin though? Nah. Probably shpuldn't use porn for that kek

No. 2445346

>>2444481
ayrt I am not a fan of the fact that they're giving styles a name OR the names that they're choosing. It's an extention of identity politics to me, and to see it leaking into music genres and art stuff, like >>2444518 mention "bullshit-core" drives me up a wall. I enjoy stuff resembling 2000's era mac computers, and the bumblefucks labeled it as "Fruitiger Aero Core". I'm sorry, what? I don't care that they named it after Some Guy Related or anything, I'm not jiving with that label.
Pursue styles all you want, yes absolutely. I love seeing styles! But naming it? Stop. Please. It drags people in who aren't related as well, becayse you know the way these labels spiral out of control, is by slapping it on artists that are minding their own business.

No. 2445364

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The rendermaxxing here is so insane, I've never seen it side by side like this

No. 2445366

>>2445364
>"rendermaxxing"
>colour layer applied with a soft brush
Anon…

No. 2445368

>>2445364
the overlay layer abuse…

No. 2445373

>>2445346
I'm begging you to please not become like those mean teachers in children's shows who hate on the young people just for having the audacity to have fun with the trends of their generation. Language changes, the way people refer to things changes. Even the post directly below you, >>2445364 shit like the term "(insert phrase)maxxing" is about as new as the thing you're complaining about, yet it's embraced here. "Gooner" is a new phrase that's said left and right here. Labels aren't new, scene, emo, prep, all that existed before, it's just that there's more access to diverse styles now that online shopping is so prevalent and these kids are getting inspiration from j-fashion and it helps them nail exactly what they want. Hell, even in my twenties, I find it useful, because I remember back in 2013 wanting to SPECIFICALLY find pastel goth, but it was all under the "kawaii" label so I had to wade through a bunch of unrelated shit first.

No. 2445377

>>2445364
I think the right is cute. The left missed the mark.
Who is the artist?

No. 2445392

>>2445373
ayrt I guess you have a point, yeah.

No. 2445507

>get followed by one of the most infamous drama-ridden artists of the past few months
Just gonna pretend I didn't see that.

No. 2445534

>>2445507
I had something similar except this one artist had been following me for around a year and I cut them off recently. Did not want to be associated with them, especially since our subject matter is similar.

No. 2446009

>>2440037
>>2440061
OMFG I remember her, yeah she was totally ripping off Black Butler and I totally remember her defense video for trying to justify her rip-off OCs. You know though, I will admit that I did think her main OC (the goat) was kinda cute. She did have one of the worst fall outs of that time with the whole Spoctor Theory thing with her, Stories, and Atari tried to say he was a pedophile and it backfired hard on them when Ponder Sprocket made her long rebuttal video.
As bad as she handled the backlash with her awful apology vidoe, I do hope that she learned from it and has bettered herself and possibly even made some more original OCs if she's still doing art.

I agree with the sentiment though, I miss the arttubers as well because even though their drama was stupid as fuck, it made for entertaining background noise when drawing or cleaning lol. From Akai Dalia to SavDraws to SimplyDad to Yoyo6969 and so on.

No. 2446023

>>2440760
I never heard of this Sammy Fendi person so I looked them up and I don't really see any similarities to Brujo aside from the inspiration for Y2K aesthetic. Also learned that she was cancelled or something but I couldn't find why she was? You seem to know about this person, mind sharing why she was cancelled?

No. 2446060

This is why I think it's absolutely stupid for teenagers to be getting involved serious subject matter. I mean this creator is stupid to begin with thinking that going into a community that has "drama" in it's name is going to be some utopia. Second, she's clearly sheltered and doesn't know better because the internet, even the art side of it, has always had toxicity in it depending on where you went. And kek at that dumping of all her mental illnesses like she was listing out a collection of Pokemon cards. Even if she does have all these things, there's no reason why you should be disclosing all that on your public YouTube channel when in the same breathe you're saying that the community you partake in is not kind to people with mental illness.

No. 2446077

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>>2445226
Yes. A lot of good artists are gigacoomer(picrel) so why would it not apply to you? kjg didnt get good from studying tasteful naked pictures of fat old ladies. Plus, studying from hot men is definetly more encouraging than having to stare at the walled scrotes from the ''professional'' ref photoshoots.

No. 2446088

>>2446077
>A lot of good artists are gigacoomer(picrel)
That's just generic gooner slop with terrible proportions
>>2446060
I don't know why but she seems obnoxious

No. 2446098

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>>2446088
>That's just generic gooner slop with terrible proportions
god i wish this was the level of the average male coomer

No. 2446134

>>2446023
iirc it's because she drew some edgy countryhumans art when she was a teenager but i could be confusing her for someone else.

No. 2446154

>>2446023
I believe it was because at one point she got called out for using AAVE and she isn't black herself or something like that?

No. 2446230

>>2446154
Wait she isnt black? kek

No. 2446233

>>2446154
This is the only "controversial" thing I remember happening but I don't think it was really that big a deal, nothing came of it.

No. 2446234

>>2446230
Iirc, she’s like Arab or Indian or something

No. 2446240

>>2446234
Deleted my last post because I got her confused with another artist who's actually black nvm. She still sucks for larping a another race for clout though

No. 2446247

File: 1742078053380.webp (721.08 KB, 886x1041, 1000134164.webp)

This might've been talked about before in the thread, but do you think it's easy to spot if an artist does porn by looking at their sfw pieces? This is quite an obvious example, but besides the unnecessary lineart around the boobs and the short skirt, what are other signs that you tend to notice? I also think the way many moid artists render skin is one of the biggest giveaways (e.g.: random blushing throughout the body)

No. 2446251

>>2446247
Any moid who draws vidya women and anime is a coomer.

No. 2446255

>>2446240
"Larping another race for clout" kek what? Using AAVE is larping as a black person now?

No. 2446256

>>2445139
Make a ref folder of just these images only to start. If you're that kind of person, make a moodboard. The more you see them the more you might notice the kinds of interesting details that go into these drawings. This might be only my personal observation but I notice a lot of these people just add things to an image because it's cool. Nobody ever needed a haunting image of pure vanilla cookie with ominous eyes and an edgy caption, but it looks cool doesn't it? This kind of artist just seems to have a lot more fucking fun even if the image doesn't seem to make sense to your eye. It's often objectively interesting to stop and look at it for more than a few seconds.

I'm also trying to escape the oc void because it's not really fun. I'm ashamed it took me so long to realize, but what people are now calling making fanart of your own ocs is far more eye-catching.

No. 2446258

>>2446247
>Overly shiny and/or blushy skin is a dead giveaway
>Realistic (or "realistic") body shapes with a cartoony head
>If their OCs have super tropey animu archetype personalities
>I can't really explain this one, but the way artists draw mouths tells you a LOT about their content

No. 2446289

>>2446258
About the mouth thing, I hate that stupid little pursed lip v-shape some moids put on a character when they're blushing. I don't have an example on hand right now.
Also, the way speedosausage draws pudgy hands bothers me. But the way he draws eyes is a dead giveaway.
Body shapes and the way in which they're exaggerated, especially around the hips and breast's. They literally cannot help themselves, no self control.

No. 2446367

>>2446098
How do people manage to draw so well without having to measure and sketch first? How can you train yourself to eyeball it and get everything right as you go?

No. 2446372

File: 1742083311712.mp4 (9.74 MB, 720x1280, [25-03-04] 1896964053547028607…)

>>2446367
>''霊長類お兄さん (@okinawanogori)'' folder contains 2000 files
by drawing a shit ton and practicing i guess

No. 2446422

>>2445507
…is it juby by any chance kek

No. 2446441

>>2446289
>But the way he draws eyes is a dead giveaway.
You can tell if somebody draws porn by the way they draw eyes? How?

No. 2446618

>>2446247
her boobs look like the chest joint in some articulated dolls and action figures kek

No. 2446678

>>2446060
I got this in my recommends and went "Is this on Lolcow yet?"

No. 2446680

Does anybody else feel kind of sorry for coom artists whose art lacks any sex appeal whatsoever? I mostly see it with female artists who draw a lot of naked women in the void, but I've seen a few male artists suffer from this too. I don't mean people with soulless or grotesque coom styles, I just mean that the art just straight up looks unerotic.

No. 2446693

>>2446422
No, it's an artist that's been in hot water and has had multiple videos made about them on youtube and tiktok and that's all I'm gonna say for opsec purposes.

No. 2446701

>>2446367
Spatial thinking, confidence in line placement, and working within limitations. The easiest way to do this is to sketch with ink instead of something easily fixable. You learn how to project.

No. 2446708

>>2446680
Yes; only due to the fact that I can tell they're doing it due to really bad advice ("NSFW is the easiest way to get noticed!")or playing to an easy crowd. They may not even be drawing what they actually want to be drawing, or would be drawing under different circumstances.

No. 2446716

>>2446060
Teenagers really need to learn how to stop laying out all their weaknesses and drama online. It's like they're trying to make getting cyberbullied easier.

I have no idea why anyone would want to make an art drama channel, aside from being able to get potentially easy clout with mediocre art. You're basically setting yourself up to get into drama, or at the very least setting yourself up to investing lots of time and energy into researching and writing about dumb shit.

I'm not gonna bother watching the whole video, but I love how in the intro she says that she is referencing over 20 people and that if anyone feels personally attacked and asks her if she's talking about them specifically, she will 'lie to them'. It's terrible how teenagers are experiencing high school drama or legitimate grooming or whatever else online where thousands of people witness that shit.

No. 2446737

File: 1742098266190.jpg (23.44 KB, 257x388, Capture.JPG)

does anyone else remember this book and how it caused a shitstorm with the tifs of social media, including the art community? one of the biggest jp publishers (if not, the biggest) had plans to localize it in japan i think, and the troonies and allies spread muh awareness about it over twitter kek
it ended up being cancelled, publisher made an official statement and all that. i just know that this book hit too close to home to the many tifs out there, and i am 100% certain they only cancelled this because it happened to japan and so many tifs are fucking weeaboos. like if this was announced in any other country, the outrage wouldn't be as severe, the twitter twats who posted about this originally probably told their troon followers to complain about it to the publisher personally.
i might be in the minority here but weebs are also a cancer on the art community so it's unfortunately extremely ingrained in art space culture, but tif weebs are the ones i hate the most. it's like 50% of most zoomer artists you see on socials are tifs now, it's so disgusting and annoying

No. 2446755

File: 1742099955992.jpg (Spoiler Image,167.76 KB, 1673x1392, 192372933.JPG)

>>2446680
That was my reaction when this artist attempted drawing porn (most of it is deleted now except on patreon) unsexiest stuff I’d ever seen kek even the yaoi sex was meh

No. 2446756

>>2446755
i know this artist, i've never seen them draw a character that looks not ugly kek

No. 2446762

>>2446755
You can really tell when an artist isn't into it.

No. 2446821

>>2446737
Because anime is one way to indoctrinate the zoomers/gen A. Back then 80% of the internet actively community shat on weeaboos (the ones who wore naruto headbands in public or did some weird kawaii desu anime controtion) and retards in general. This is because anime is a form of exaggerated cartoons, and it shouldn't be taken literally. Weeaboo cringe comps will usually feature retards trying to mimic anime movements which results in cringe. The classic LGBT even criticized new waves of LGBT who claimed to be gay for liking hentai- but not really engage in same sex dating etc.

But then corporations came in and stopped the culture of letting people say how they really feel, along with irrational gendies whining about 'toxicity' and how we all gotta hold hands and sing kumbaya. So now you have an environment of toxic positivity which is a perfect place for the troon cult to fester which uses the unrealistic anime shit to encourage retarded kids and retarded people into giving the medical industry money to fuck up their bodies.

So it makes sense they will do whatever they can to stop Asians from knowing the fuckery that is going on. But the streisand effect prevails.

No. 2446833

dude what is with these chinese artists and randomly, out of nowhere, posting pictures of their open self harm cuts?? who the hell wants to see that, you psycho?

No. 2446838

>>2446833
Kinda reminds me of how Korea and Japan are infamous for their suicide rates. Maybe Chinese culture is hellish too, pushing them to go crazy and self-harm (then post it online for attention.)

No. 2446842

>>2446838
Its literally happened 3 times where ive followed a chinese artist only to randomly be jumpscared by cutting pictures on my timeline, wtf is going on over there…

No. 2446859

Permabeg malds feverishly about some other small youtube anime art tutorial channel. I miss videos like this.

No. 2446880

>that feel when you find one or two famous actors/models that have the face of one of your ocs to make studies of
thank god for them, even if there’s no one who looks exactly like an oc they’re still close enough

No. 2446881

>>2446859
>all that struggle to draw one guy on the ground
painful

No. 2446926

>>2446859
watching this guy try and fail to draw even though he's got a 3d model on the canvas right in front of him genuinely confuses me. how can you have access to so many tools and still draw things this bad

No. 2446948

>>2446247
When they draw skin very shiny and emphasize certain body parts (thighs, boobs, ass, crotch). Gross but you can tell if someone drew a child character is a loli/shotacon or not.

No. 2446949

>>2446881
I have a bad case of chicken scratch and watching him struggle like that makes me feel a lot better.

No. 2446974

>>2446737
>>2446821
We just convince the Japs that making an anime based on this that's critical and warning of troons will somehow raise their birthrate.
The the western troons will ree so hard their heads explode. It's foolproof.

No. 2447130

>>2446949
This is why I love watching Manben kek I love watching mangakas struggle to draw something

No. 2447164

>>2447158
people who screech about how much they hate genshit are honestly worse than genshin player. I hate attention whores.

No. 2447199

What can one do to make woman like someone's erotic art without feeling tryhard?

No. 2447205

>>2447164
It just feels like hatred of a popular thing for the sake of it. They'll hate on genshin for being a gacha, yet lose their minds over games that have lootboxes. Genshin actually brought people a substantial gaming experience for the initial price of $0 vs the cashgrab slop that was the absolute state of gacha games pre-genshin. Gacha isn't going away, but at least Genshin made it so that companies can't get away with making a shitty autobattler with $100 PNGs anymore.

No. 2447214

>>2446821
What you said is so true, I remember how the internet used to be and as mean-spirited as it could be, I feel like it also gave balance to genuinely retarded crap like what we're seeing now with the gender crap. I've been hearing this phrase with gen z that is "To be cringe is to be free" (or something along those lines) and this is the justification I see these troon weebs run with and why they have multiplied all over the internet.

No. 2447229

>>2446678
Ayrt, I just had to post it because it is a relevant thing in the art scene that details the stupidity of these naive teenagers who thrust themselves into the community when they shouldn't be.

>>2446716
I agree, they really have to stop oversharing but they lack the critical thought and foresight to understand why until it's too late. It's foolish to want to get into art drama and not expect to get involved in it yourself. If she wanted to do art commentary, she should've just talked about normal art commentary subjects.

>It's terrible how teenagers are experiencing high school drama or legitimate grooming or whatever else online where thousands of people witness that shit.

I agree and it's why I think a lot of us millennials are grateful to have experienced middle/high school before social media really blew up beyond DeviantART.

No. 2447276

>>2447214
NTA but look, to be cringe IS to be free, which is why I support every autistic ass anon's right to husbandos and drawing whore art of those husbandos.
Being annoying or being a creep isn't cringe, that's being a retard or a predator. This includes troons, creeps with creep fetishes, spreading your retarded thoughts and feelings to people who don't want to fucking hear it, clogging tags with inane unrelated bullshit, sending fics and art to actors and creators, trying to talk to and "parent" kids online (I don't mean in a "looking out for them" way, I mean like those disgusting gooners do when fishing), disruptive cosplaying, starting online "social movements" against art trends, etc.
Maybe I'm soft-hearted, but I'm glad we don't have a bunch of adult men making fun of and harassing young girls and women for their cringe OCs being super shit or whatever.
I do think we need a hard turn back to understanding and following basic etiquette in fan spaces, and shunning obnoxious speds who think they're above it.

No. 2447295

>>2446859
>struggled sketching and rendering a single panel before starting the rest of the page

No. 2447299

>>2446247
Navel shadow or crotch shadow on clothing even when the clothes aren't super tight

No. 2447308

>>2447276
Ayrt and honestly I wasn't really thinking about people who have husbandos and obsess over them (as funny as it is, I was referring to more of the other stuff you highlighted as a lot of those things run rampant in the art commentary community and I just can't help but find it cringe. Like the fact that roughly half the gen z population in the online fandom art scene are some sort of troon or gendie, I find this to be cringe but maybe you're right that "cringe" probably isn't the right word for this and it really is just internet retardation so I can concede that it may have been a wrong use of term.

No. 2447480

>>2439910
Trannies were barley a thing in that time,of course not.I hate when artists have era specific characters and completely disregard what did/didn’t exist at that time ugh.

No. 2447505

>>2447276
Nonnie this is so based.

I agree a lot of places the distinction between cringe and genuinely being unpleasant or uncomfortable to be around just doesn't exist. Especially in art because artists are historically "weird" so a lot of shit that wouldn't fly in most spaces does in art communities.

No. 2447532

File: 1742158337342.png (Spoiler Image,4.76 MB, 2738x2935, slugbox.png)

Not sure if it's a right thread, but does anyone know an artist with a similar coloring style to Slugbox, minus the pornographic brainrot? Preferably also creature art. His style is really basic and simplistic, but captivating. Not sure what exactly I like about it, probably a combination of clean shading and really vibrant color palettes, gradients, etc.

I'm sure there are similar less degenerate artists out there who render like this, but it's hard to google an art style. I kept those for rendering inspiration but I can't stand having them on my laptop anymore.

No. 2447538

>>2447532
i feel like this sort of style was very common on deviantart previously. maybe look there? also i saw this guy streaming full on nsfw art with his facecam once and idk if it was brave or embarassing, i could never

No. 2447545

>>2447532
The only similar artists that comes to mind is Mr psina and gashi gashi

No. 2447555

>>2447532
unrelated but when i was a teenager i thought his anatomy was incredible and i admired his poses, but now it looks pretty basic imo and it's hopefuel that even if i hate my art, at least people who don't draw will think it's cool

No. 2447705

File: 1742165871751.jpeg (420.48 KB, 1170x1162, IMG_6198.jpeg)

Might be an unpopular opinion but Kate’s new anatomy proportions suck and the lines on her navel have never looked worse.

No. 2447706

>>2447705
>Kate is not my self insert!
Suuuuuure

No. 2447707

>>2447705
I thought this was fanart. Her art skills deteriorated at lightning speed.

No. 2447732

>>2447705
wtf are those boobs

No. 2447740

>>2446372
I made a folder for my favorite manga artist starting from when they had a personal site and there are over 2K illustrations, not even including the manga series they’ve also published or doujinshi I haven’t bought. I think people really underestimate how much professional or good artists draw

No. 2447741

>>2447705
what the FUCK happened to her anatomy??? her tits are turning into actual shelves???

No. 2447745

>>2447705
Wtf is that line on her shirt, and why does she always need to show her pubic lines all the time

No. 2447747

>>2447705
Her head looks pasted on.

No. 2447771

>>2447705
This is what happens when you pander to coomers

No. 2447796

File: 1742168322663.jpg (413.98 KB, 1170x786, shit.jpg)

>>2447705
>Kate is going to be wider like in my current art moving forward in the production of the show
Shit it’s going to look so bad kek

No. 2447806

>>2447705
If Katie's fat now, Why does she still have that stupid looking long giraffe neck of hers? Should she have a double chin or something idk. It's so funny seeing her regress like this though kek it's what she deserves.

No. 2447830

>>2447705
both of their boobs look fucking weird. Even the fatter girl's

No. 2447859

>>2447705
I was a fool to think the bobbleheads were bad this is infinitely worse

No. 2447863

>>2447796
Her shitty show is doomed. The only appeal was the Y2K style.

No. 2447882

>>2447705
holy fuck how are you ever going to make a webshow when you cant decide on your characters gender and body types after years of developing them? i swear she changes their identities every month?

No. 2447887

File: 1742173053684.jpeg (44.36 KB, 729x420, IMG_9847.jpeg)


No. 2447904

>>2447882
so many changes to kate but somehow alex still has the personality of a door. It's doomed.

No. 2447908

>>2447904
and looks exactly like trent from daria

No. 2447944

>>2447796
Oh it’s over now.

No. 2447977

>>2447707
I get the feeling brujo is just trying to appease the genderspecials who get pissed at her for "queerbaiting" or whatever it was and is trying to beat the fatphobia allegations at the same time kek

No. 2447989

>>2447977
When did she get fatphobia allegations? Is there a chapter I missed?

No. 2448000

>>2447705
>>2447989
I feel like Ari just woke up one day and suddenly remembered all the "bratz/barbie dolls/winx proportions are unrealistic and making teen girls become anorexic and we need more normal body representation/fat acceptance/whatever" discourse from years back and suddenly started feeling self-concious about how she drew Kate's body type.
But yes, it's completely ridiculous for her to still be constantly changing a bunch of stuff about her characters even with a whole studio already working on a series. I wonder if anybody from the studio has had any talk with her about this and casually tried to explain "hey, Ari, we will not be able to be constantly changing stuff midway through production, you really have to start making up your mind about this", and if not I wonder when will be the breaking point. Not to mention that Ari's whole appeal is the 00's aesthetic and making her characters rounder/wider to make them look more organic completely messes that up (and the triangle boobs keep getting uglier and uglier the more she the rest of the artstyle.)

She's definitely not gonna do this, but I really think given Ari's tendencies to be constantly ship of Theseus-ing her characters ad infinitum, it would be better to treat the show and her personal work as semi-separate. I.e. let the studio make its own character sheets, start working on an actual show scrip now with Ari as part of a team of writers, and maybe treat the show and Ari's personal work as slightly different AUs. It would be confusing, but that way Ari would be free to keep changing her personal OCs as much as she pleases without leaving a whole team of animators/sound designers/voice actors/editors/etc hanging in production purgatory while they wait for her to make up her mind (or ruining the writing quality by making them retcon a bunch of stuff every episode).

>>2447796
If you've seen how she's been talking about "making Kate wider" it seems she can't even decide if she wants this to be just a style change or if she wants to make Kate actually chubbier. Given the way her fans react to it, she might end up making her canonically chubby for online validation or for the "ticc" coom points.

No. 2448009

>>2441268
>My Little Pony shipping wars in this day and age

Other than the nasty Bronies I love this fandom. Also Rarijack is better don't fw with me. At least they're semi-canon in EQ.

No. 2448012

>>2442327
There's a game dev thread in the catalog, nonnie. Your post will suit better there.

No. 2448107

File: 1742184241589.png (383.66 KB, 660x694, Screenshot.png)

>>2443020
meanwhile genice is dropping her art book of the drawings she made for BNA. living her best life while juby seethes rent free

No. 2448120

File: 1742185308261.png (26.08 KB, 627x267, hrm.png)

>>2447796
speaking of female characters, i wish she'd just drop the "im trying to make valid representation" angle and admit she just wants to make a romance focused on kate and alex with some reverse harem sprinkled in. i thought all the other the female side character designs looked cool too but that would mean having to draw someone other than kate.

No. 2448164

File: 1742188286285.jpg (116.12 KB, 1271x1271, mydariaoc.jpg)

>>2447705
kek at the amount of replies. anyway kate's body does not look like it belongs to that body anymore, she looks like a head body swap experiment now. it doesn't go well with ari's toootally y2k grungey late night obscure show style either, now it looks like an imitator trying to get it. she's cowish but i wanted her jojo au show to succeed aww, she shot herself in the foot.

>>2447904
>>2447908
he's still ugly as hell. i remember skimming through her tweeting and seeing a post of her complaining that solo alex fanart is rare and i just want to tell her… do you even wonder WHY??? kate has cute fits and accessories and an easy to remember hairstyle but her moid is super basic in all aspects. also it's funny how girl alex (picrel) looks like that other girl from daria.

No. 2448183

>>2447705
She was kind of cowish but I was also happy to see her unabashed y2k autism and how she tried to imitate the styles at the time even if it was imperfect, but goddamn…
>fatphobia
>queerbaiting
>moral ocd followed by artstyle/writing deterioration
Don't fall for these tumblrfaggot moral ocd psyops brujoari, for the love of god, I was actually kind of rooting for you to grow out of the cringe and make your zoomie bratz doll show. There is nothing that internet strangers can offer you that is more valuable than your creative fulfilment and following your passion.

No. 2448192

>>2448107
god i hope this triggers a mega spergout from juby. this is the most fun i've had following an art cow in a long time



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