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>>>/ot/2458042Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-Do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated /m/ thread
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
Frequently Asked Questions>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AIBoth the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?Look through older artist salts or give context.
>Painting: The Lady of Shalott by John William Waterhouse (1888) No. 2477099
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nonna i'm deeply jealous of someone in the fandom i'm it. said person joined the fandom way later than me but she gained so much traction in such a short time. her drawing skill isn't even that good either, her anatomy is all fucked up. the subject matters in her art is also not interesting (pretty girls standing in colored backgrounds) but people seem to lap that shit up. the only "good" thing about her art is the color, which she admitted is just filter abuse. she can't even bother to choose her own colors goddammit. i know obsessing about this is stupid but i can't stop thinking about it. what should i do???
No. 2477139
>>2477099Ideally, ignore her. But otherwise, do you really care about the attention of people with such shit taste? The kind who’ll follow a crappy artist as long as she draws cute girls? Twitter popularity is total bs and there was a time where destinytomoon could easily get 20k(probably still could if she ever came back kek), the bad artists who get popular are just a variation of her but with waifus.
Also, focus on improving your own art, developing any personal projects you have in mind, and growing an audience who appreciates your art and skill. It’ll be slower instead of providing instant social media dopamine, but in the end it’s more satisfying than an audience gained through low-quality waifu art.
No. 2477271
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How do you study anatomy without going crazy? My brain is frying and and i keep forgetting the old information that i gained from studies no matter how much I'm practicing
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>>2477260I'm planning to infiltrate the spiritual people, they have a lot of money. I see them supporting all sorts of stuff. Like there's these two youtubers in my country who go on 3 vaccations a year! and still have money to buy expensive tech. People throw so much money on the spiritual influencers and I noticed people on facebook are interrested in paintings with spiritual themes, angels, abstracts, lots of warm colors and shit like that. If i add some yapping about my paranomal experinces i bet i can make it. Just wish i had the time to start already and not be in debt rn. So i guess try finding a specific community like this that doesn't have troons in it.
No. 2477380
>>2477099A lot of the time these fandom artists are either constantly posting engagement bait, or they have actually relevant fandom discussions that attract people to follow them. If people enjoy interacting with the artist, they'll interact with their art too, even if it's not as good. So you can keep that in mind.
Besides that, simple colorful drawings look good on the timeline, so people repost those fast without thinking.
If you don't like her posts and art, just mute her. You can't do much about it in the end.
No. 2477422
>>2477417okay. that sounds creepy as hell
I am afraid to be too inspired by my favorite artist and while I draw similar themes I don't want to be her copy, but this is another level. sorry that happened to you
No. 2477470
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Is it even worth it to go to art school at this point? Like my family is supportive towards it but I don’t wanna feel like I’m wasting money on something that’ll be inherently useless.
No. 2477546
>>2477248Maybe? Everyone sort of clicks better with some things than others, so there is no blanket response that could apply to everyone. Other things need to be factored in as well, such as who you're learning from and whether or not you're committing things to memory through practice and taking notes. Take notes btw. Make cheat sheets. Google things. Download tutorials.
>>2477249Yep. It's hell. I hate it too. Absolutely nightmare existence. Thar's why it's so effective if you viciously hate someone. It's a tried and true thing and you and I are proof of its effectiveness of how soul draining it is.
>>2477271Take notes. Write things down. Make cheat sheets. I could post some of mine or some of the things I readily have on hand. Print things out. Amass notes. WRITE. IT. DOWN.
I have bullshit short memory and I write things down and forget that I did, making it seem like some other person is leaving breadcrumbs for me. Write it down nona. Pictures, colors, and words. Write. It. Down.
>>2477470Don't do it. The Art Institute was such a scam the burgerland government shut it down and delivered refunds. Art school is so bad, the one my father went to had people graduating without the ability to actually draw. Networking is important but the amount they charge you? No.
He went to the art school in philidelphia idk what it's called atm No. 2477700
>tfw one of my biggest art goals is to be mutuals and friends with a big artist
>but she’s in her early 40s and has been getting less active on social media each passing year
>my following count is more or less stagnant, and events that could’ve made it possible for her to notice me are getting more rare
Does anyone else feel frustrated that they missed the era of when the big artists were super active on social media and just talked and interacted more often in general? It was mostly when tumblr was super popular and twitter was also gaining traction. I’m younger than most of the big name artists that most of the online art community should know, the ones where if you checked their profile, hundreds of artists you follow can be seen listed also following them. It’s like a whole big exclusive club where most people know each other. During this era, my art obviously sucked while a lot of these people already had tens of thousands of followers, or were already in the industry. So I was too late to ever be part of the cool kids. And artists my age all seem lame as fuck in comparison, mostly gendie zoomers.
I’m so incredibly jealous of all the artists who managed to become mutuals and friends with her. I just know she’d also love my art too, we share many similar interests and tastes. And I can’t stop thinking about how old she’ll be if I ever make it big enough to be noticed, or if she (or I) dies before ever noticing me. I feel her noticing my art would be the most rewarding person ever and no one else really matters, so if she ever disappears off the internet then I might lack enthusiasm and motivation to draw again, because what’s the point if my most valued “senior” will never see it. I just want her approval so much
No. 2477735
>>2477700Normally, most anons on this site would eat you alive with "why do you care" "just draw for you" but honestly? Same. It was especially so during the Homestuck era, where these amazing artists would just pop up like Punpunipunchu. But what always baffled me was when I would see shitty artists or people who outright never drew at all become very close to her or other artists I admired at the time. I did get noticed by my favorites, but it came by way of someone reposting something I drew in her inbox, and she was super happy to see it and was super excited as to how it looked. But they didn't source me or let me know. So by the time I'd found out my favorite artist saw something of my own and loved it, they'd already gone offline entirely or died. Fucks me up to this day despite being probably a decade ago.
It also feels a bit sad to
become one of those fandom seniors? Like when all of your idols have gone on to either quit the trade or fandom, or got hired professionally, leaving inly… you. Just
you, who idk anout you anon, but I see myself as being insanely boring art-wise. But there's nobody around that particular fandom that isn't shilling gendie arts or zoomie slop (the many styles that get dunked on regularly here), and it's so… hollow?
I get what you mean, honest. Like you inherited a throne that sits on skeletons or dung or whatever super dramatic thing someone else could come up with. And then the cycle repeats, and you now get the shitty art in the inboxes of people who admired you the same way you admired your idols. A noose-worthy experience. I don't know how to "draw for myself". I only know how to draw to appease a select few.
No. 2477865
>>2477700Just send her a message if you think you have a lot in common. Doesn't hurt to try.
>>2477735>But what always baffled me was when I would see shitty artists or people who outright never drew at all become very close to her or other artists I admired at the time.That's because those people talk to them. I know a mediocre artist who's been stuck under 5k for years who is mutuals with some really popular artists (like 80-100k) that are way above her skill level just because she reached out to them first and knows how to keep a conversation going. A lot of online artists are somewhat lonely or don't have (m)any fandom friends so they'll be happy to engage. Followers and skill levels don't really matter
No. 2477880
>>2477735Sorry for the long post. That inbox thing is terrible, art reposters who don’t credit the source are the worst. I’m glad you know what I’m talking about nona. Homestuck era is a great way to describe that time period. Everyone was younger back then so people had more time and energy to post art and socialize with other artists, I remember seeing tweets from an artist saying how sad they were that artists don’t really talk to each other on social media anymore as much as they used to. I guess all the big artists are too busy with jobs and general adult stuff these days. Elon making the site shittier every year also isn’t helping, so many people refuse to post there now or just started posting considerably less.
I never really thought about eventually becoming one of the “seniors” in the art community. Probably because I always flop and get ignored. A bit off topic but I always think about how aging will be like in this age of internet, where people you’ve known for years will slowly stop posting until old age and you’ll never know what happened to them, and just assume they died? Thinking about what social media will be like when we’re actually old was always bleak.
Anyway it would still be nice if I became a famous artist that a lot of people look up to, but having artists that you look up to is also nice. I just want all these artists I admire to be impressed with me. I feel nothing but jealousy when I see all these artists on instagram I follow like each other’s posts regularly. None of them ever followed me back so my art just isn’t amazing enough and it stings.
Honestly I think having a proper and personal art community for me would help a lot with my happiness when it comes to art. I’m jealous of anyone who has a close group of artist friends. I find it so annoying how none of my friends are artists. I do have some online artist mutuals, and I was invited to a discord that consisted of a mutual’s art friends but it’s mostly dead and I’m not really close with anyone there. And on the other hand I’m in a ton of larger servers that focus on art but of course there’s no real sense of coziness or familiarity there.
There was talk about people finding someone else to draw ocs with in the last thread and it sounds so fun. I wish I could join those dnd group projects with other artist friends. I just realized that I don’t have any close art friends in real life or online, which is probably a big reason why I yearn for attention from big artists.
No. 2477901
>>2477865>Just send her a message if you think you have a lot in commonEhh I don’t know nona, this person has over 100k followers and I’d just die if they were the type to ignore randos in their dm. What would I even say? Hey I like your art and we have a lot of similar interests, check out my page and see if you want to follow me too?
I actually did reply under a post once where she was drawing other people’s ocs, and of course that got a ton of replies and I remember that one of the replies that was chosen was a newer reply than mine, so she probably saw my oc post too and ignored it since she didn’t even leave a like. To be fair I don’t think she liked every post, but still, maybe she wouldn’t be as impressed with my art than I thought and it’s just my hopeful wishing as usual.
>That's because those people talk to them.That’s also another thing, I admit that I’m the type to judge others when they try cozying up to big artists. I just can’t help but see it as very fake and desperate, so it’s embarrassing to me. I know it’s kinda hypocritical when I also said I wished artists would socialize with each other more, I guess I’m just too much of a pussy to make a change myself.
I would only consider leaving comments on other posts if we’re mutuals already. If this person isn’t following and they’re a much bigger artist? Nope x2. I just can’t stand the thought of my followers and other mutuals seeing my pathetic ass trying to get a big artist’s attention on their timeline kek. The view counter on tweets make the whole thing even worse, imagine tweeting “omg I love your art sm” under a popular artist’s post, and it gets zero likes and has 3k views. Fucking hate elon so much.
I guess the most direct way of me trying to get this person’s attention would be to draw her ocs. I could post it using her hashtag for her comic since I’m too afraid of @ing her directly, but since she’s barely active she probably will never see it. Even if I was brave enough to @ her, she still might not see it so I’ll look like a fool in front of my followers, or another terrible situation where she DOES see it, likes it and comments, but doesn’t follow me. At that point I’d give up tbh.
For the record, she did used to follow a lot of artists when she was active, and when she made bluesky I noticed that she followed a bunch of new different people including young artists, so I thought following her on bluesky would be my best shot at being noticed but whelp, nothing came out of it
No. 2477903
>>2477880>I find it so annoying how none of my friends are artists. Me too. I love my current friends dearly, but as we grow older, we no longer have things in common. I love shipping characters and none of them are really into the whole OC scene.
>There was talk about people finding someone else to draw ocs with in the last thread and it sounds so fun. I wish I could join those dnd group projects with other artist friends. I just realized that I don’t have any close art friends in real life or online, which is probably a big reason why I yearn for attention from big artists.I was thinking about making some sort of fun OC shipping thing in /m/, but I'm kind of stupid when it comes to making threads. I'll look more into it and try to make one, since it seems like something a lot of drawfags on here want. I know I want it; I miss it. During those Homestuck days, nearly everyone talked to one another and shipped OCs. Tumblr is still kind of dead, but that makes whatever remains rather cozy. I'm not going to pretend like communicating with people is easy on there, but I noticed fujos stick together and artists that avoid doing the diversity thing also seem to be magnetized towards one another. I started recently just commenting on this one Japanese artist's art (they're bilingual I think, and seem to meme too hard to be using Google Translate), and they seemed EXTREMELY happy to talk. I'm hoping it goes somewhere, since I'm tired of the gendies being the ones that want to interact all the time.
Hope this doesn't sound shallow nona, but I'm on this thread nearly 24/7 out of loneliness, so I kinda get the feeling you have lol
No. 2477905
>>2477700I get what you mean but not as an artist. I followed many artists from many countries on tumblr and pixiv, and then on twitter because we were into the same series or video games, more than 10 years ago. The Japanese ones all nuked their tumblr accounts long ago and only post on twitter about their professionally published books that almost never get officially translated where I am nowadays, best case scenario they'll sometimes retweet videos of cats and birds and post one generic fanart of the new popular shonenslop anime of the year. The ones from Western countries have been harassed online so much based on bullshit like which husbando they married in Fire Emblem they stopped posting as much as they used to or deleted everything. The ones who still post only post personal stuff for their own irl friends completely unrelated to art and fandom or they only annonce which comics or cartoons they're working on, or in which cons they'll sell prints. The most they'll do is reply "thanks a lot" to whoever try to strike a conversation with them if they don't know each other so I don't try. The ones who went pro are most likely still a bit paranoid they'll be deemed too
problematic for their industry and blacklisted after dealing with harassment over weeb video games and husbandos so I understand why they try to seem as neutral as possible though. Some of them decided to post way more on bluesky to avoid bots polluting their notifications but not that many of them.
No. 2477921
>>2477903The /m/ thread sounds like a fun idea, but unfortunately I don’t think I’d ever post my art/ocs on this site because of gendie lurkers who could possibly rat me out if they recognized me. Reminds me of when this general decided to join artfight and created a tag to identify other farmers but some self hating troonie here tattletaled to the af mods and got people here banned. I still hope that people who can post their art here freely will enjoy the thread if it’s ever made.
>>2477905That’s sad, following artists for a specific interest/fandom is always hard since most of them will stop drawing that particular fandom. That’s why true dedicated autists are so special like that famous Hyouka artist who was bullied off the internet.
I don’t have a particular fandom I wanted to see from artists since I follow for their art style only, so most of the artists I love still post at least regularly thankfully. But I always make sure to save their art in a folder on my pc regularly in case they ever delete everything and I encourage nonas to do the same. I can’t bear the thought of not having my favorite artists’ work on my pc at all times
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>>2477903>finding someone else to draw ocs withI was just reminded that artfight is in July and I only learned about it last year after it had ended.
I'm planning to join this year just because it seems fun to take drawing ocs into a competition.
No. 2478044
>>2477921>Reminds me of when this general decided to join artfight and created a tag to identify other farmers but some self hating troonie here tattletaled to the af mods and got people here banned.This is the most depressing thing I've read this year. Thanks for the heads up though; I guess if I'm going to put up any OCs for others to enjoy on this site, they'd have to be made from the ground up specifically for here.
>>2478036Two months left! I don't have any artist friends atm since I DFE'd my last account due to a stalker (who found me again). I really like drawing for others on there. I don't care if they enjoy or hate the resulting art, I just like enjoying designs an experimenting.
No. 2478051
>>2478044Maybe our dogwhistle this year can be just not putting pronouns anywhere? And other tactics like not posting our pictures until after it's ended.
I was planning to do 2 seperate accounts anyway just incase one gets banned, but i do not know how the whine to get someone banned process works, so if it requires user interaction I'd just try and get them banned first for cyber bullying or something
No. 2478070
>>2477700Something about your post makes me sad nona… I hope one day you're able to enjoy your art as something just for you, and you're able to move past idolising these artists as much as you do. At the end of the day they're just other people with their own problems and flaws and it's so incredibly lonely to idolise someone who might never know you exist.
Speaking from experience, of course. I can 100% sympathise because I definitely look up to some popular artists! I'm also older though so I've already gone through several 'hyper-idolising to crashing out' phases over the years.
Hope I didn't come off as condescending kek, I just want you to be happy
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>>2478092I thought about doing that too but couldn't figure out a way besides a Google form that doesn't indicate right or wrong answers and emailing anons who passed with the tag name
and emailing the ones who didn't with a fake one kek. But I'm too busy for it and though I'd suggest making throw away proton emails I feel like it'd sketch too many anons out as you've said.
>>2478051>>2478153Too vague to be used as an identifier for LC nonas specfically, there are more normal artists who don't use pronouns and there are also /ic/fags on there who don't participate in that.
No. 2478254
>>2478036i want to do art fight so bad but i haven't done it in so long and i dont even use ocs anymore…
>>2478158maybe no pronouns and something cow related? but idk about planning stuff on here, last time with the bans it was obvious whoever was calling it out found out on these threads
No. 2478323
>>2478287That gave me an idea, what if we somehow signaled to each other on /ic/ when an artfight thread gets made? There’s usually a thread up when the event draws nearer so nonas could probably try and find each other there instead. At least if some troon is obsessed enough to follow us there to get us banned on af, then the whole ship goes down including the 4chan moids kek.
What even was the secret code last time? Was it just #farmer? I’d be shocked if such a generic tag was enough for the mod to ban several people. Also, I’m thinking that the troon who ratted us out was just a summer tourist since af takes place in July so maybe they aren’t here now? If you guys organized this early, they might never know
No. 2478344
>>2478336>I like your idea but it also depends on much you're able to stand moid seethe.I was thinking nonas could go into the /ic/ thread like “any farmers here?” and nonas would reply to that post. 4chan moids shouldn’t care or notice it too much as long as we just reply to each other.
#pasture for sure is specific so I can see why it was easy to spot nonnies ocs out in the wild. Perhaps using the #farmer tag for ocs would be better, since there’s no doubt many characters tagged as farmer already? If you guys went on with this then maybe your ocs would have to be farmer themed somewhat, or not and you could just slap the farmer tag just because and no one will really question it
No. 2478392
>>2478358There is a thread for that exact thing
>>>/m/188283. Anons just love to victimize themselves
No. 2478417
>>2478358>>2478392nta and never did artfight, personally have no interest in it, but
>3 year old thread with 26 repliesI think it makes sense why people would be more likely to go for the popular trendy event where you’re guaranteed to get at least a few oc fanarts
I do think trying to find subtle code words and symbols to find each other on artfight is a bit pointless though. At that point just email each other and make a discord group to share your art accounts, like what gamedev anons did to start collabing
>>2157880 There’s even a method for vetting
No. 2478422
>>2478358 >>2478392
It's a bit different, I guess what nonas want is to draw for/with other farmers without the general public knowing they use lolcow. Posting your art or OC over here is dangerous if you want to keep your use of this site a secret
No. 2478510
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>the sheer amount of furries
I'm going to bookmark evey sparkled I come across for a challenge
No. 2478529
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Where did Kate and her sister’s necks go in the last 2 redesigns?
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Sorry to vent but it just came to mind; when I was 12 or so my mom took me to an art club for their paint evening with an art teacher as a fun mother-daughter activity. I was the only child there, people in the club were nice and didn't have a problem with it. But halfway through the (hired) art teacher stopped the class to evaluate our works so far and she specifically out of all the paintings picked up my painting. Which was super obviously done by a kid, the only kid there. It really looked like the most stereotypical child painting with cute colorful creatures like picrel (but worse), you couldn't mistake it for anything else among the adult paintings. And this grown ass woman goes on to criticize it harshly in front of all the adults, knowing full well it's done by a literal child. She even pointed out things like "even if it looks nice this way… if you turn it on the side it's ruined because the subject is central to the painting" as if that's even a problem?! We were not instructed to do anything abstract or turnable like that btw. She then picks up adult paintings praising what I had done wrong and they had done right - no negatives about the others. I still get upset thinking about it to this day, it's a wonder I even kept doing art at all after she humiliated me like that in front of adults.
No. 2478596
>>2478559Sorry that happened to you but it's so absurd that this teacher seriously criticized a child's artwork that it's comical. Loser. I am reminded of a high school art teacher I had who actually got mad at me for asking for critique after class and started to rant to me about how professional critique sessions cost $200/hour and
HOW DARE I ask her for critique outside of class. That made me feel like shit as a young teen. Loser art teachers are the worst.
No. 2478616
>>2478287My guess is because trannies also use /ic/. They certainly like 4chan.
Maybe we could include one blonde cow OC and no pronouns in bio? That's vague enough for nobody to get singled out without there being accidental overlap. I think it is crutial to blend in somewhat with everyone else so that they can't target us too specifically.
No. 2478622
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CPS nonas, so everytime you want a 3D model to wear shoes you have to MANUALLY fix each fucking shoe to the feet? There isnt any avaiable preset? jesus
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hold on, is Brujo's story set in USA or some Argentinian villa? look at those damn windows
No. 2478636
>>2478380dude calm down lol. I don't really go on other boards, and most of the cows I am invested in are not skinwalkers. Idk what you mean by summerfag; I am here year round? I hope you have a good day today though; I dislike infights.
>>2478622Might be able to make a preset yourself I believe. I know you can with hands and poses.
No. 2478668
>>2478660>>2478623I seriously can't wait until her gendie fanbase "eats her guts" and just quits or has a mental health break.
the death of dreams can sometimes be so beautiful.
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I decided that Im gonna hermitmaxx and hide all of my art from the public eye until it morphs into something acceptable and I stop being an embarasment to my lineage. Ive stopped fucking around and started learning anatomy, wish me luck nonnas(no soyjaks)
No. 2479481
>>2479364Godspeed soldier. We will watch your progress with great interest (?).
>>2479370nta I can gather up my anatomy references if that helps anyone. It ranches from super simplistic breakdowns I nabbed from Pinterest to just anatomy books. It's a stepping stone. My stuff is color-coded because I am a retard.
>>2479466It's a thin line you tread. I think the difference between retarded designs and pure sex is the body type and how the outfits lay on their figure. Compare Yu-gi-Oh characters to JoJo characters. (no shade mesnt at either)
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>>2479364good luck nonna! i actually fully stopped posting some time ago and i feel ok with it but i'm unsure about my progress
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>post untagged 30 second funny doodle of gay woman ocs a week ago
>wake up to it somehow having 200+ notes almost exclusively from porn addicted tims who post about incest and rape and pissing themselves
Im killing myself nonas
No. 2480296
>>2478529Okay I'm mad
She looks exactly like I did during my freshman year at highschool back in the day, even the same kind and of backpack and blue shirt, my 16 year old self could have cosplayed this without trying.
No. 2480350
>>2480337I feel you anon, I'm lowkey the same kek. I've had OCs for years far before Twitter and I never really had much people take an interest in them. Thankfully I'm so engulfed in (slowly) building them up to where I don't want to part with them but sometimes it'd be nice if other people had a slight interest in them as well.
I think a problem though might not be giving interactive content. Do you have a comic or anything like that that goes with your OCs? Personally I don't because as much as I'd like to do a comic, I'm too lazy but I've noticed that sometimes that can help drum up some interest.
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I know it's just a thumbnail and the typical youtube hyperbole, but come on. A week of studying is invigorating, if you can't take that why are you even drawing? This type of whining just peeves me.
No. 2480506
>>2480296Yeah that's just me too kek Wasn't a COMPLETE orb tho
>>2480360Oh man. TwistedDisaster… I used to watch her for her story time recollections. Is she a cow now? I saw her being mentioned previously but didn't look too much into it. I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a
POC sona while being white or some shit??? Very… strange but hardly interesting at the time.
>>2480489Weekly challenge vids are kinda stupid ngl. Tired of seeing the bait pop up.
No. 2480527
>>2480506samefag Yeah, art fundamentals should basically be most artists' warmups? I can't imagine it being THAT draining of an exercise? After a certain point, it should either be second nature or something you feel addicted or obligated to do because you've established it as a
yknow,
>fundamental No. 2480923
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found this brujo_ari clone on my insta explore
No. 2481014
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This has been doing rounds on Twitter recently and am I the only one who feels like there’s something sinister about this art? It feels very pedophilic, even moreso than normal lolishit.
No. 2481019
>>2481014Nah, I see it. Snow White's expression is almost a subtle ahegao and they've all got that suggestive, sultry blushing thing going on that you usually see in degen hentai art.
>>2481018Yes, this, thank you for putting it more succicntly lol.
No. 2481024
>>2481020Nailed it, nona.
>>2481022Gyaru has always been a provocative and edgy style but I hate how it's almost solely pulled out for hentai tropes these days.
No. 2481025
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>>2481014and if you had any doubt and thought you were being "hysterical" about the faces like "oh what if that's just how they draw cheeky youthful girls!" here's moids' reactions.
No. 2481029
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>>2481014There's another one. Belle's eyes look retarded
No. 2481033
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>>2481031Probably a woman. Her old artstyle was very girly
No. 2481034
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>>2481029just saw it too
nonnie, give em an inch, they'll take it a mile, they saw the reactions to the first one and thought they could get away with more degeneracy.
also kek at picrel, the icky boring East Asian character is the one who looks most "normal" kek
No. 2481046
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>>2481014This moid on picrel is a vocal anti-ai but he draws nothing but boring uninspiring coomer animu girls on white background
No. 2481053
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>>2481019I also think it’s the heavy, half-lidded eyes combined with sticking their tongue out and the blushing like you said. I see it almost exclusively in media meant for scrotes to get off to compared to something like picrel aimed at women.
No. 2481067
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>>2481056>>2481060>>2481046This is the type artists ai wants to replace
No. 2481072
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>>2481067He also made porn of Dora the explorer
No. 2481096
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>>2481014>>2481029>>2481034these drawings remind me of the cute disney princess fan art in the westaboo art threads, if any nona wants some eyebleach
>>>/m/246187 there's way more in that thread
>>2481078idk much about the topic but I do know this kind of stuff is called orientalism, you can read more about it in your own time
>>2481067>>2481072 No. 2481105
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>>2480923saw this one and found it funny that they even copied the instagram story text "i think i wanna change this character" thing that brujo does
No. 2481107
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>>2480506>Oh man. TwistedDisaster… I used to watch her for her story time recollections. Is she a cow now? I saw her being mentioned previously but didn't look too much into it. I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??? Very… strange but hardly interesting at the time.AYRT and I watched her for her story times as well but eventually she stopped doing them and focused more on art related topics. I don't know if I would call her a full cow but more like a semi-cow because of her lack of self awareness to her own art and her constant excuses for various things in her life. She's kind of like Amberlynn Reid but not
abusive, just whiny and lazy.
Like discussed in last thread, she's been on a job hunt but has the most ridiculous standards despite her not working an IRL job for close to 10 years now.
>Applied at a UPS store and didn't want to work there because she feared she'd get "hate-crimed" for being "nonbinary" and getting "misgendered" by not getting referred to with "they/them" pronouns.>Wants to make above minimum wage but is not willing to work a job that would pay that like warehouses and computer-related jobs. But she more or less thinks retail is beneath her because she claims to make more money doing her art yet frequently opens for emergency commissions.>Believes that she was discriminated from a job opportunity because she put that she is Jewish on her job application and can't work on Fridays and Saturdays to which the job was given to someone else. Mmind you, she doesn't practice Judaism and that she more than likely didn't get the job because she put that she couldn't work Friday and Saturday.>Continually she goes on and on about how great she is with her line art and coloring yet seems to be allergic to practicing her anatomy and foundations and her style quality is picrel.>Went a whole 9 months not having her period and thinking that was normal only to finally go to the doctor when she started experiencing excruciating pain.All of this is kind of cowish behavior in my view but despite her ridiculousness, I'm not sure if I would call her a full-blown lolcow because she's not as active on her YouTube and her cowish behavior is mostly seen on her Twitch where she says all kinds of dumb things.
>I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??I don't remember that, her character that she uses is a black cyclops cat but I don't recall people saying that that was racist. I think you're probably thinking about PonderSprocket? She initially had a
POC character for her talk sprite but then changed it because she felt it was misleading to use a
POC character when she's a white woman.
No. 2481116
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>>2480567AYRT and oh right, the LA area did have those crazy wildfires so that more than likely did affect attendance and sales. And also another good point about Disneyland being next to it, it makes sense why people would rather spend a lot of money at Disneyland vs a con which when you think about it, is kinda crazy that they'd have the con be in that location lol
But the thing with this woman is that almost every con she works, most of them she said that she didn't make all that much money aside from making her table back but also always felt the need to tell the viewer that all the other artist alley artists were doing just as bad and with how frequently she would say this, I just had to give some side eye, especially when it's coming from an artist who's quality is picrel to where it's not surprising why an artist like her may not get as much sales compared to others who have a more refined style.
No. 2481124
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>>2481034Looking at her older works, it gives off the vibes of an angsty depressed teenage girl browsing obscure imageboards, it's such a shame she went to the pick-me coomer path
No. 2481130
>>2480991Give it time anon, she might end up going that route like so many of them tend to do kek.
>>2481012If she was trying to mimic her older style where it looked more like TDI / 6Teen in style, she'd probably pick up a lot of Brujo's fans who initially liked her style for that quality before she started moving away from it.
>>2481108As someone who was a teen when scene was the "in" thing, I think it's because these zoomers didn't live it and all they have to go off of are pictures on Pinterest which is what makes the style whether they attempt to dress it or make their OCs dress it come off as inauthentic. It probably doesn't help that zoomers don't seem to have a style that defines their generation unlike previous generations (70-80s = punks & goths, 90s = grunge, 00s - mall emos and scenekids). Maybe the E-Girl/E-Boy aesthetic is theirs defining style?
No. 2481278
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I’m always surprised with what you can get away with if you rendermaxx and slap bimbo tits onto something. The anatomy is all fucked. What’s wrong with her leg? Why is she melting? Did she fall or did she pass out drunk?
No. 2481344
>>2481319nta but those anger emojis are a reference to the cunny
child vagina rape correction meme, its pandering to that audience
No. 2481346
>>2481328>>2481332I agree the initial drawing of cinderella, snow white and aurora aren't that bad but you'd have to be blind if you see
>>2481029 and find nothing wrong with it
No. 2481348
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>>2481319i only became familiar with megusaki after that gross loli miku song came out. The original drawing (ariel, tiana, mulan) seemed normal, but the ones that follow have the exact expression of the megusaki loli miku.
No. 2481359
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>>2481319They arent even lolis so i dont get it either. Smug anime girls have been a thing since before mesugaki.
No. 2481381
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>>2481359smug anime girls is a common ecchi/hentai trope since forever as well. mesugaki is just a newer term for it. funny you mention toga, her whole gimmick is getting naked and losing her clothes when she uses her powers
No. 2481389
>>2481352I swear anime fans from literally just a few years ago weren't
nearly as retarded and wilfully ignorant about fanservice/fetish bait tropes kek. Inb4 "wah we're all desensitized and groomed"
No. 2481412
>>2481107ayrt Yoo you're right. I mixed her up with PonderSprocket.
>her job complaintsThis shit is mad hilarious. I now have something to watch for the next couple of days.
No. 2481643
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This bit is getting annoying, random youtuber needs attention and now everyone else has to deal with it. What even is the joke??
No. 2481686
>>2481280I post in a slightly lower res for commissions I get from clients I know are nitpicky about details. I think it slightly helps keep the nitpicks down. One time I even had a client ask if there was a higher resolution available for the image and I just lied kek
>>2481389I really don't get it. How can you look at
>>2481029 where Jasmine's wearing a thong and exposed bra, and Belle's posed with cleavage and her leg carefully posed to hide what would be a pantyshot ALL while wearing shit that makes them look like middles schoolers and say this isn't meant to titillate pedophile anime fans? I'll grant that the other images are more ambiguous in their sexual intent, but let's be for real about this one.
No. 2481703
>>2481014You're probably feeling wrong about the "vaguely school uniform-esque outfit" look conbined with a tiny miniskirt conbined with the chibi faces maybe conbined with the drawing simply having kinda shit anatomy like the tiny ass feet. I don't think it comes of as particularly worse than standard high school anime girl coomerbait stuff, but the legs make me feel this guy might genuinely have a fetish for anorexia. That "knees bent inwards" pose anime artists love already makes most anime girls look retarded or like they have some fucked up bone disorder, but the way they're drawn here genuinely reads like almost Eugenia Cooney tier legs.
>>2481033>Self harm scarsOk, if this is a woman she is probably anorexic herself.
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>>2481703>Ok, if this is a woman she is probably anorexic herselfShe is a woman, she posted selfies on her second acc
No. 2481765
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>>2481745Picrel. There's a meme that's been going around rape correcting centered around loli characters pretty much. If you see anyone saying "uoooh", spamming of the crying emoji (depends on context but it should be pretty easy to spot), phrases like correction is needed or some variant, then you've spotted them.
No. 2481824
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>>2481745It’s time for a history lesson
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/uohhhhhhhhh-%F0%9F%98%AD This is the original tweet for the crying face and uohhh thing, I’ll post the og tweet of the brat correction meme after this. Moid in pic rel is mammoth or better known yet as dorontabi as im sure most of you have heard, at least im 90% sure this is the same moid. But correct me if I’m wrong 1/?
No. 2481831
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>>24818242/? These two memes, the cunny uohh crying face and the brat correction + vein emoji have been unfunny memes in many weebshit communities, mostly in blue archive but also in Arknights and genshin. Also pretty common in vtuber communities. I think most people don’t know the real origins of these, as in they haven’t seen how nasty the og tweets are, but lolipedos definitely know which is why they like parroting it. But the memes have gotten popular with faggots who don’t even know what they’re saying and are just repeating stuff they’ve heard. I know a retarded scrote who claimed that he said this out of irony, but he’s also a blue archive fan so I call bullshit
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>>24818313/3 now onto dorontabi itself. I highly recommend reading these two threads that contain most info:
https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1885174380499718488https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1906053685333131326 Basically he is a Korean pedophile, like real pedophile as in he has Japanese gravure type content of little girls and uses it as reference for his drawings. He was an official artist for blue archive, specifically the anime and I think all he’s done was just draw an official illustration for them. His accounts have gotten suspended many times. So that’s why I’ve always hated these retarded pedo memes and everyone who repeats them, because they were already unfunny and pedoshit but the moid behind them is an unironic literal pedo who wants to rape kids, which is something that most people who parrot these probably don’t know.
Those type of weeb fans are ultra subhuman anyway so I don’t expect them to care. They’d probably agree with his sentiments if anything
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>>24818394/4 Sorry, wanted to add onto these posts again. So it turns out that not only does he have softcore porn of little kids but he straight up most likely has cp, which isn’t really surprising I guess. This can be found in the thread I linked, but here is the particular tweet:
https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1906350908671434940He made a porn parody that looks a lot like a darkweb video of a girl getting raped by her teacher, many similarities between the video and the comic he made
No. 2481892
>>2481876We also might live in a time preceding a mobile app that alerts users when known pedos are nearby, who are permanently micro-chipped (using tech that would not be controversial at all in korea, china or japan - known sex pest/nonce countries). The more brazen they get, the more incentive digital privacy companies will have to market that to literally everyone else (since other pedos are predictable and will install the app to seem less suspicious). Moids always believe they're all ~bros~ until they're psy-opped by other moids into never starting families or becoming a future neo-exile
https://www.local3news.com/local-news/what-the-tech-doj-releases-app-with-database-of-registered-sex-offenders/article_0c1f09f8-9600-11ef-a938-0ff46f8c57bd.html (2024)
https://scholarship.law.unc.edu/ncjolt/vol20/iss5/5/ (2020)
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>>2481824Kinda ot but minus8 (another Korean coom artist) also once posted on a Korean website something related to picrel. These guys are all the same
No. 2481935
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sorry for the art vent, nonas. I draw a lot for free, for friends, etc. and have had personal accounts for over two decades. I've never had any real attention over my work on these types of sites, I mostly go underground and ignored. But recently, a friend of mine had started posting my art that I've made for the OCs as apart of their profile. And that person has been getting a wave of compliments for the artwork. I just feel really weird about it. It's his OC, so I don't want to seem like I'm overstepping by saying I'm not comfortable with having my stuff shown. How do nonas deal with having their stuff public at all? He's not an artist, so I'd feel kinda mean by saying he can't use it, it is his character, after all. And it's not necessarily that I'm uncomfortable with someone using it, just that it's being seen. But why do I even feel this way, why do I feel so strongly about it? god I'm cooked.
No. 2481944
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>>2481935I am the same so I can't tell you a way to deal with it, my only advice is to ask that the art doesn't get credited to you if you haven't already.
No. 2482063
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>>2481412>ayrt Yoo you're right. I mixed her up with PonderSprocket. Haha thought so, no prob. Thankfully Ponder isn't really a cow though she's come close a few times. She hasn't been all that active in a while though ever since some Discord drama was abuzz (more info about that in the art commentary community thread)
>This shit is mad hilarious. I now have something to watch for the next couple of days.Yeah it's pretty stupid though keep in mind, this stuff mostly gets espoused on her Twitch, not YouTube. But if you have the tolerance and don't mind listening to dumb shit being spouted, she can be entertaining to listen to as background noise. Personally the only time I "nope" out of listening to them is when she blathers on about troon & gendie crap. Or I get tired of her trying to be all "how do you do fellow kids" by trying to talk like a zoomer with their slang (she says "raw-dog" a lot… Ew.)
>>2481416Yeah it's pretty gnarly isn't it? To be fair, I'm pretty sure that was a commission but still, the quality speaks for itself kek. And with quality like this, this is why I'm not too surprised that she hasn't been able to make a living doing her art or that her artist alley sales can be very hit/miss.
>>2481507>Bumps on lineart makes her look like a cactus>Butthole lipsI kek'd more than I should've but spot on. Like said, I'm pretty sure it was a commission so whoever made that has poor taste but Michie's overall style just lacks true style because of her wonky ass proportions that she tries to excuse with the "my style" argument. I get that she's trying to go for a cartoon style and I personally like cartoony styles myself but her take on it is just an eyesore and needs refinement.
No. 2482310
>>2482186right, the additional photos of the cp
victim was completely unnecessary for the information that was already mentioned in the previous threads. fucking grim
No. 2482473
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This stupid artist and her obsession with giving all her works that dumb O mouth shape, she literally can’t stop kek
No. 2482491
>>2482473Thats like the worst expression somebody could get obsessed with
>>2481643weird but hes paying the artists so whatever
No. 2482657
>>2482472I have been eyeing a screen tablet (a cheap-ish xpen) because I tried it at someone's place and it was so comfortable to draw in, but it surprises me when I see big and good artists post photos of their workspace and see they use blind tablet, I assume everyone switches to screen ones after a certain point haha.
I have even heard some artists switching back to blind because often it's better for their posture. But also saw others mention they had to get a screen one because the intuos was hindering their progress a bit, I guess it depends on the person.
Your case reminds me of the copic baggers back then, they all thought their art was better for using alcohol markers when they had shit color palettes and didn't even blend, a crayola set would've sufficed for their level.
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>>2481932I hate minus8 with every fiber of my being. Hes a scrote who sexualizes everything that moves. The people who watch his porn and him also actually need to be taken out back
No. 2482676
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>>2482669It all started from Matcha and tiktok alphatards call it "cream soda" artstyle
No. 2482690
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>>2482676Matchas art was good albeit, but now theres been so much people trying to replicate it on tiktok because of the trend and they look so deformed. Look at this picture kekk.
No. 2482702
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>>2482690Samefag, Also If youre a beginner artist, you are so much better off trying to learn your own artstyle than being a crappy offbrand from an original idea. After you get the basics done, THEN you can incorporate some elements. Because not only will it be painfully obvious, Youre just wasting your time trying to copy every mannerisms of the first artist but you never really have to knowledge to understand why its drawn like that. People who do stuff like pic rel are profoundly retarded. Speaking from experience.
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>>2482743Some of you need to learn colour theory and it shows, matchacha's colouring and rendering is not that complicated it's a simple progression of warm > cool > warm > cool in mid value colours.
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>>2482763
And? They're still midtones and still alternating between cool and warm (and her colours aren't that pastel, maybe just the bckgrounds and some lighting). Work smarter not harder, if you have to write paragraphs breaking down a very simple method then I think you need to learn more art theory in general.
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>>2482811but her coloring stands out from other generic popular anime artists
No. 2482836
>>2482811nta Isn't
muted a better way to describe it?
I have no idea who this chick is. No. 2482849
>>2482831Not really. I think even the infamous glip coloured like that at one point.
>>2482836Much better way kek, it completely slipped my tongue.
No. 2482896
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I’m so glad I wasn’t born a moid, especially the type of moid artist obsessed with shonen. Everything they create feels so boring to me, just soulless, derivative, and devoid of genuine emotion in the characters and storytelling. No amount of style and over-the-top expressions can save shit uninteresting writing
No. 2482983
>>2482935I wanna make a psychological horror webcomic/novel with action, gore,
and my fetish for pathetic white collar men secretly being beast. But, I know damn well only men would read it ignoring the lack of male aimed fanservice or deeper emotional themes between all the blood and guts…maybe this might never come out kek.
No. 2483120
>>2482924nta Humans are directly affected by their experiences. This is something you will never escape. Sometimes it's subconscious though.
In reference to
>>2482743 you might want to experiment. At this point, steal palettes from images you absolutely think do it right. If a picture you come across makes tou go
>woah, I love the colors heretake time to study it! We have the rate the art thread too, and the nonas there are pretty gentle with critique. (just dont post anything self-identifiable)
>>2482919DBZ is written by a comedy type guy so maybe it having humor and silliness mixed in (like Piccolo wearing a hat) helps with the dogshit pacing? Or nostalgia goggles? I'm still trying to figure out why DBZ and HxH do it for me too. Very fun and fascinating shows.
>>2483056Did you watch wolfchildren and fall in love with dad or something jfc
me too kek>>2483110I usually do hand stretches, scribble some lines to wake my senses up (zigzags, hatching, parallel lines, etc) maybe use a gesture drawing site for 15 minutes or until.I start getting antsy, sor I do some thumbnail drawings of scenery. (for digital drawings) For non-digital painting I just sit down with some toast and pray for the best kek
No. 2483130
>>2481014I saw the one with Tiana and after noticing a kiss mark on her thigh I thought it was weird. There it is
>>2481034>>2482688I agree. If it really is a woman even more so.
No. 2483228
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Sakimichan
>hasn’t posted on her main twitter/patreon since beginning of year
>still posting frequently on her side twitter/patreon dedicated to drawing porn of men (mostly LADs)
Is she finally ditching her moid audience and focusing on pandering to women?? Her art isn’t my thing still but I support the idea of it kek
No. 2483263
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>>2483261Also the most retarded shit I have ever seen in my life like picrel. She got obsessed with drawing this mentally ill gendie mpreg ntr roidpig rape nonsense. Imagine wasting such talent on trash like this
No. 2483278
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>>2483269I'm trying to say that I don't think it's pickme behavior to draw two characters that are popular with certain kinds of women in scenarios that, historically, women frequently create media centered around. I guess you could claim monster fucker/beauty and the beast type stories are male fantasies made to brainwash women, but that would ring as untrue
to me. Are fishmen and evil kings not super common fantasy romance tropes? You might as well tell me that harlequin novels featuring hunky aloof brooding men are made so women can seem more attractive to dudes by reading them, it just doesn't make any sense.
No. 2483283
>>2477324my mom used to pay an artist for this stuff, super easy abstract stuff with an om symbol in the middle or using colors that represent a certain chakra idk
you can probably shit out a painting like that in 30 minutes and charge 200 bucks for it. maybe more, but that's what she paid
No. 2483428
>>2483421nta Fascinating angle. I never thought that stealing a style was a crutch. Maybe it is for newer generation artists, beginners even? I have been going back to mimic artists from the 90s and my childhood where I looked up to the styles th artists moved on from, to generate new things for my own amusement. It's strange to see artists skinwalk someone who is active with a specific artstyle.
I remember sexyrobutts or whatever having a skinwalker that posted stolen and altered work merely a day after him? I'm not good with names but it was very… strange.
No. 2483503
>>2483388I can understand the frustration, but everyone knows porn goes to image agretation sites 80% of the time, they should accept that fact and just be grateful people are paying them.
I have seen artists who treat their patreon as early access and/or a way to let supporter decide which characters to draw & I think that's a good middle ground.
No. 2483520
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>>2482478Yeah her Vivziepop fanart looks wonky, picrel kek (What did she do to Millie lol)
No. 2483776
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>>2483543She really does. I see her streams and she uses the symmetry tool like it's oxygen. It's all part of her "work smarter, not harder" motto she loves to say from time to time and sure, the symmetry tool can be useful but relying on it as much as she does is just sad and I don't think she realizes how emphasizes her lack of refinement.
>>2483693Yeah. It's unfortunate because whenever she does fanart of anything, it always looks wonky or just unappealing to the eye outside of her few fans who seem to love it. Look at how Courage the Cowardly Dog turned out in her style…
No. 2483789
>>2483369That's purity culture in a nutshell. You can never redeem yourself in the eyes of people who've already decided what kind of person you are based off of if they personally like your content, so why even bother? Draw whatever the hell you want, there's no point in catering to
those who'll never accept you.
No. 2484025
>>2483263This looks so shit, I thought it was AI
>>2483272probably, it's just porn but even then I'm pretty sure there's coomers that care about what made their fapping material. As weird as that is.
No. 2484028
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I’m reorganizing old art files I have saved on my computer and came across this pic I saved years ago. I remember thinking these footnotes were weird back when I saved them and five years later yup, they are just as trashy as I remember. These were from an animator so other members of this project (which was canceled too iirc) would read these notes.
>her wrist is thinner than will’s dick I guess
>to all staff
>don’t forget that every guys [characters?] this film has like to fuck her. Don’t draw her like a child totally
Why are moids like this? There’s also a bunch of Japanese notes found in more images, wouldn’t be surprised if more disgusting stuff was written in them.
No. 2484039
>>2483888I agree with you. That was more in response to not caring if someone thinks you're a pickme whore if you draw big breasts or huge pecs.
Sakimichan should draw what she feels like drawing and not care if others think lesser of her for it.
No. 2484130
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Sorry for showing Genshin nonas but I do have a question about this. The fandom (as usual) was complaining about this design a few days ago and I'm quite curious why? I've seen art with similar designs like this and I wonder why it's a big issue. Unless it's a non-issue like always lol
No. 2484163
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kek, is this person overreacting? since it’s artfight most people would realize that this isn’t their oc right
No. 2484168
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>>2484165i’d be grateful to get an attack this detailed from someone on artfight and wouldn’t really care if the artist didn’t mention me when they post it on their socmed. id just quote the tweet or reply with “that’s my oc! thank you so much again for drawing her!!”
don’t know why this chap is so overprotective
No. 2484189
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Art nonnies! Please don't laugh at me I'm not a professional
I used a few characters as reference for an OC but one specific character stands out since they share some similarities and I really love their design. People keep thinking my OC is related this specific reference character as in it's a fanart.
How can I make my very unoriginal OC less less like a ripoff?
No. 2484193
File: 1744417071850.png (1.18 MB, 2859x3344, 1SePNAXiktqLgCgp68X7MEZsHGdN6n…)
>>2484163why even participate if you don't want other people drawing your oc…i feel like it's expected people will upload the art to their socials. they only care because it blew up and probably got more attention than any other shit they've made with their oc.
i don't even think it's a problem if they replied like 'hey btw that's my oc' instead of being like 'ummm big yikes my guy!!!! delete this NOW' and coming off as antagonistic right off the bat. also picrel is their character. gross.
No. 2484257
>>2483692ayrt That is an absolutely good point.
>Often times there may be some like for the style but it also feels influenced by what's popular and what they want to project rather than some style they genuinely like and want to work hard to fold into what they already do. It's more skin walking than using elements that they want in their art.This better illustrates for me what a lot of anons in this thread have mentioned in passing offhandedly. "Being obsessed with style is retarded" used to strike me as something weird to say, since we all have a part of someone else's art we were attracted to. But knowing this particular detail is implied now, I understand fully. Hopefully for them it is a fad, something that allows them the first steps into art (basic shapes, understanding volume, hand-eye coordination, line control), but I have spoken to some artists (young, inexperienced) online who needed help. I mentioned they needed to borrow from reality to help with drawing fiction and always got snapped at as a result. Typically
>The pose is too stiff on real people! I like how the referenced art does it more.And it's broken, anatomically… logically..
No. 2484276
>>2484163I understand their emotions over it, but it could've been handled a lot better, rather than being petty over the lack of character credit.
>post reply underneath the art>"This is my OC (name) that I was super grateful to get art of! If you want to know more about them, follow me! posts several more images of their OCIt could've been that simple.
But maybe I'm wrong, and they handled it properly, because their complaint has over 15K likes.
No. 2484353
>>2483233Yeah the engagement on her old patreon compared to her male focused one is like night and day. Which makes me wonder if she pivoted because she really wanted to go back to drawing men or because she needed a new source of income now that the gooners aren't as interested anymore. Not knocking her either way though I'm glad she dropped that plasticy artstyle she had like in
>>2483263>>2484261But handling things rationally wouldn't get them any attention. Though I haven't done artfight so I don't know the rules around posting art of other peoples characters.
No. 2484429
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are there any not professional drawing programs for animation nonnies recommend? When i wanted to animate some years ago everybody recommended toonboom but i ended up using fire alpaca anyways kek
No. 2484510
File: 1744444543676.jpg (75.58 KB, 783x973, 20250119_002658.jpg)
>no idea what to draw
>no will to draw
>hate my art which also makes me not want to draw
send help please I don't want my art to get even worse from not drawing for like a month
No. 2484535
>>2484429clipstudio
cracked of course kek and opentoonz is good (but very complicated as most nipponese softwares are but its used in the industry)
No. 2484541
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>>2484510Sometimes you just need a break for a little while. That does not mean give up as a whole, do some research into art and artists in the time you would normally draw, specfically ones that align to your interests may help. If you like history you could look at the art and techniques of your favourite periods, or you could look at architecture, or biological illustration or botany or fashion etc.
No. 2484583
File: 1744454634550.jpg (392.52 KB, 500x1785, 1744274347410.jpg)
Repost from bad short comics thread. I Figured this fit better here.
No. 2484929
File: 1744480616507.png (376.36 KB, 750x672, what.png)
>>2484130Same anon, I found this as well and I'm still confused. Are we not suppose to use designs like this? I really don't get it at all.
No. 2485323
>>2485315>Imagine having such a lack of integritynta This is a take that non-artists usually adhere to strangely enough. People can't just abrakadabra popularity out of thin air. Skill level be damned. A lot of artists have to stick to what sells. And as every non-troglodyte understands
sex sells.
People who have no stake in the art industry as sellers or anything beyond mere hobbyists who "draw for themselves" typically cannot emphasize with this fact because they don't take it seriously at all. It's complicated, sad, and necessary for some. nb4
>Get an actual job instead and make art a side hussle.As stated in previous threads, this is not always a viable option for everyone. Some people have heinous disabilities or live in situations where they simply
can't and only have art to support them.
No. 2485331
File: 1744515208524.png (Spoiler Image,648.46 KB, 673x810, dharmesh naik.png)
>>2484929Do they not know that male belly dancers are real? Is an indian man from India participating in orientalism? Spoilered for 3DPD
>>2485317It's kind of complicated because of its history, and definitely too complicated for Genshitters to comment on and condemn while playing a game that does the exact same thing
No. 2485353
File: 1744517535636.jpg (276.46 KB, 1134x1134, shen.JPG)
I hate him so much. This is just a lonely self-absorbed softboy who pretends to be liberal because he’s trying to manifest pity from hot women. “Gay”? You’d never draw yourself being forced to draw yaoi by ugly fujos ir gay men. This is agp fantasy shit. He’s going to troon out any day now.
No. 2485365
File: 1744518893614.jpeg (458.47 KB, 1170x1074, IMG_7590.jpeg)
plx twitter more of this guys art of cute moegirlfriends pictured directly from his psychosis induced dreams
No. 2485746
File: 1744564375046.png (230.16 KB, 568x832, shen lesbian.PNG)
>>2485353"Bike-cuck" era changed him.
No. 2486101
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>>2485973>how many wips do you usually have going a once?Like 50. Staring a the same image for an extended period of time drives me nuts, so I'd shelf it for a few days and draw other things. Coming back to the shelf'd thing with a different angle helps me catch errors. …sometimes.
>how long does an average piece take you?Highly dependant on how much I like the piece. If I love it, within 24 hours. If I dread every bit of it? Maybe a month. I can't count specifically how many hours because I piss time like water and lose track most times.
>how "dependent" on references are you? Shamefully not very. I can freehand most things but then I start getting antsy if it doesn't look right. I draw kind of like picrel
in my head when I sketch so I rely on muscle memory more than photo references unless working on backgrounds. Probably should fix that but I adore drawing from imagination.
My art is probably dogshit but I am in a wonderful fictional world where I can pretend that it is Okay At Best. Still haven't opened up commissions in a hot minute though. A bit unsure on what price my broke-ass audience can afford kek
No. 2486252
>>2486156I think so. People figured out that it's an easy way to chase likes, and the art level needed to appeal to men isn't very high.
Even gay male art is primarily fat guys over muscle guys now. Because drawing muscles requires more anatomy knowledge to look right.
No. 2486525
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>>2486522there's a 'catboy' comic and a crossdressing maid cafe comic bc of course there is
No. 2486526
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>>2486525last one, I'm not spending more time trawling through his comics. I wonder if it's some weird bait or if he's sincere about this stuff.
No. 2486579
Internet artistry has evolved into what I like to call "faux punk". An epoch of autism creatures, blobslop comics about how much you love your friends, retarded cat memes hastily slapped onto shitty chickenscratch drawings, inoffensive safe edgy jokes, progressive commentary that isnt saying anything actually new or controversial (riot grrrl, kill your abuser), vanilla kink stuff that the author positions as something so innovative its gonna make those dumb cishetetonormative normies go bald from stress. People are allergic to thinking with their own heads, to drawing with their own hands. Everything is rehearsed. Recycled. Turned into neat catchphrases that are vague enough for you to slap them on almost anything. Toxic old man yaoi. Tboy swag. Morally grey. Doomed yuri. Cannibalism as a metaphor for love. Weird girls. You love weird girls, right? Remmember that you are a product. Problematic. Realistic depiction of mental illness. Loving like a dog. Words and phrases get repeated so much that they lose all of their bite. Everytime something new comes out it gets swallowed by the fandom and regugitated into the same sludge theyve all seen before, forced into the same tired tropes. Labels dont have meaning anymore. Artstyles all look the same, vaguely human shaped blobs of bright shapes and colors, and dont forget to slap pronoun pins on it!
No. 2486594
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>>2486579You just perfectly described my feeling about current art community but i couldn't find a correct name for it. Another thing is that most twitter artists draw characters with the exact same unfunny recycled memes to death or they just redraw a popular reference from pinterest. Nothing wrong with using references but they don't change anything or put something new so they end up referencing a reference (if this phrasing makes sense)
No. 2486636
>>2486579It's because everything has to be meme-able content or some kind of reference to something. That's what happened to most entertainment. If you look at popular anime, for example, almost everything is a self cannibalized trope of something that's already been iterated on 50 times over. It's one thing to have your influences, but another thing entirely to only have other anime as a frame of reference for creativity. It's like no one has any interests of their own, so there's nothing to say; just pump out the same art and stale memes because they saw it did numbers. As soon as a popular meme starts cropping up I try to mute it if it has a tag.
And of course the people eating all of it up talk about wanting something different, but when something different comes along, it's largely ignored.
It's just healthy to get away from the internet art scene at large. At this point, I retreated from it. I don't even go to many artist alleys anymore because it's just more internet meme art that's leaked into meatspace.
No. 2486715
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>>2486579I agree with this entire post. However, let's play devil's advocate for a second.
Is this any different from the deviantart y2k scene? Cat face emotes, rawrXD!!, socially retarded behaviors, super bright colors on furry characters, poorly written attempts at anime drawings, emo backstory characters, long lost sibling of canon characters…
Hasn't this song and dance been playing on repeat already?
No. 2486729
>>2486579I understand what you're saying but it's also that things become popular.
The internet is bigger than it used to be 10 years ago, people are doing what they've always done and use ways to signal to the outside world their group preferences or "tribe". People in the same tribe will copy each other so you end up seeing the same art meme until it dies.
But also some of the stuff you point out like "morally grey" i think was a desire to see change in art but people were afraid to vocalise it until someone did, now it's everywhere. Same with "media literacy" even though you didn't mention it, it probably fits in.
No. 2486809
>>2486715There was always trend-chasers, and people just enjoying the internet culture, but I think algorithms and purity culture made things worse. There was still some individualism left before.
Now people are overtly obsessed with being relevant, and at the same time are socially conditioned to not step out of line.
In the DA y2k scene, majority of artists had galleries, now an artist's goal is to get the maximum amount of attention in the 2-8 seconds someone is viewing their art while doomscrolling their algorithm Recommended For You timeline.
No. 2486854
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I keep weighing the pros and cons of making art friends. It's one thing to befriend someone that draws, but it feels next to impossible to connect to someone who likes similar things period since the audiences are all tinged with gendie bullshit. I want to bully bad art in DMs with someone without them collecting evidence on some future callout post they're planning. Doing it lcf is fun and all, but it doesn't hit like it would with someone you can always go back to. It's different people with more crazies tucked in.
No. 2486892
>>2486854I just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art? What if it belonged to a kid or someone with zero interest in improving? When I was lurking the bad art thread, I was confused as well gooner slop counted until I realized I'd rather make fun of the subject matter than someone just drawing as a hobby. It's not like it's hurting anyone.
Maybe I'm paranoid my art might wind up there because my skills…aren't that refined.I agree with the art friend thing though. I myself refuse to befriend any artist without having to toe the line of validating their delusions. Like, no, I won't entertain headcanons or make my characters fatter, thanks.
No. 2486920
>>2486854I wish you luck, I made an art friend a couple of years ago that I do basically what you describe with and it is very nice to have an artist friend you can nitpick weird/bad art with, especially since she's in the same relatively niche fandom I primarily draw for
>I want to bully bad art in DMs with someone without them collecting evidence on some future callout post they're planning.If it helps, I'd suggest testing the waters by trashing some art in a voice chat so there's no record if the other person reveals themself as the type to cry about how mean you are on social media. My friend was a little gendie-poisoned as well, but also was a little bit of a man-hater, so maybe that's a trait to look out for? I feel like shit-talking men and being gnc myself got her to drop her gendie labels and the bulk of her gendie retardation. She's not perfect in that respect, but she's now comfortable enough to vent about pornsick TIMs to me without guarding her language too much and that's honestly farther than I ever thought she'd get, especially since I haven't purposefully tried to peak her. I don't do any gendie shit myself, but I also only share my true feelings on the matter if I can find a polite or innocuous way to communicate it.
>>2486892>I just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art?Sometimes art's bad in a really weird or interesting way or the artist is way too conceited for their level of skill and I find the mismatch funny. It's just nice to have someone you can nitpick a literal who in DMs with (I only post bad/weird art on LC if it's by an exceptionally popular artist or the art is exceptionally bad because I feel like an asshole otherwise) for a minute or two. This might be overselling it, but I also think it keeps me more critical of my own art and motivated to improve while also keeping it light (if I'm only laughing at this literal who's art for a minute, then whoever might be looking at my art and similarly laughing is probably laughing for about as long–that's the idea anyway).
No. 2486972
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Pronouns are gone she's a regular girl now. Finally, I hope it doesn't bog down the story.
No. 2487019
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>>2487010I wonder if brujo is a lesbian with a homophobic family. The fact that kate is so sexualized despite being an outcast/nlog and the fact her Trent rip off is a TIF makes me wonder if she just has internalized homophobia. Kate is so sexualized, she looks nothing like the outcast type characters in the cartoons she wants to imitate.
No. 2487024
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tama again just drawing everyone else's face looking like herself like the narc she is. she does it so often she can't even draw the rest of the body correctly and her lame zoomer fans eat it up because its dressed up in a tired y2k aesthetic.
No. 2487050
>>2486892>just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art? What if it belonged to a kid or someone with zero interest in improving? ayrt What I consider bad art is different from what is posted on this site. For instance, I find
>>2486972 every time this artist is posting, there isn't anything there to critique? It's not fancy, it's not alluring, it's uneventful save for the pronouns I presume this artist had included on a character. Her art isn't bad. Things like blueberry art, diaper fetish, things that are inherently questionable, have a colossal amount of social media interaction as if it holds some inherent value? Fair game. If I see a child has made it, no, that does not exempt me from bullying them
in DMs privately with a friend, where the artist can't hear me, if the art is sexual or fetishized. Skill level be damned. Like you said, subject matter is key.
I enjoy doing it or redlining art in my own time privately or with a friend in the past because it is fun. I don't cowtip if that's what you're thinking, so what sad backstory the artist has is probably not going to impact my opinion of the art.
No. 2487098
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anybody remember casin0s and her insanely overpriced edgy catboy/catgirl adopts?
No. 2487185
>>2487154ayrt Could be. I know men do it though, because the friends I used to do this with
were men. As much as I can't stand moids a majority of the time, the moid artists I spoke to had a streak of insecurity exactly how I see women on here act. Maybe they do it in specific places, but I've also seen some moids just relax and enjoy drawing. It might be universal, with us women just being more open about the struggle.
Afterall, we've seen how insecure moids het about little things we take for granted kek
No. 2487188
>>2486579This is my meditation.
There is so much art now, but a dire lack of sincerity that's wrought this.
No. 2487415
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>>2487098yup, though her characters have charm to them personally. I wished she would keep them but she sold them all. kind off dissapointing. her characters had potential for interesting comics. picrel was sold to a worse artist and I can't stop alogging.
No. 2487547
>>2486972>>2487498i dont fully dislike her art but the simple faces next to all the detail looks kinda silly to me, especially comparing it to other 2000's cartoons or even just any animated show that can have a cohesive simplistic style instead of wanting dimension and realistic bodies when you're just going to draw a flat head and dot eyes
>>2487019i mean she's a tif and had a gf i think? but i dont think her family its homophobic if shes publicly trans
>Kate is so sexualized, she looks nothing like the outcast type characters in the cartoons she wants to imitate.she's also supossed to be somewhat popular with guys, unless she changed that too kek
No. 2487555
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>>2487542He even poses nearly the same kek
No. 2487576
>>2487547all that detail might just be for illustrations, once animated the designs will need to be simplified and it will probably look better.
>>2487564I've accepted that she will inadvertently make something offensive and will simply wait for the fallout of those creative decisions.
No. 2487726
>>2486579not to derail but i've noticed something similar happening with the artists themselves - not only is art starting to look the same, but most of these internet artists try to act the same way too, to seem "relatable". maybe it's just me, but it's so odd that it's become normal for artists to be TMI-level open on their public accounts: complaining about everything, mental illness sperging, using the same buzzwords all the time like broken records. think mgong and how she constantly freaks out over every little thing.
i understand this could be an effect of the current algorithms that demand a 24/7 stream of content but i miss when artists just quietly posted their work and shut up. it's beyond bizarre to see an artist you look up to post their work and immediately follow it up with a post or IG story about how their self-diagnosed schizophrenia is making them act up or whatever.
No. 2487773
File: 1744711560017.png (1 MB, 1198x950, casin0s.png)
>>2487098She rebranded recently but is subtle about it. I'm surprised there isn't much backlash about it since she was run off the web for being inappropriate with minors in her discord server
No. 2487797
File: 1744716394415.jpg (554.81 KB, 1839x1648, griffithdovee.jpg)
>the scene Griffith oc artist is a former anachan
Sheesh
No. 2487799
File: 1744716428383.jpg (485.77 KB, 2048x1916, anagriffith.JPG)
>>2487797The drawing in higher quality
No. 2487813
>>2487799>chubbierHas this artist ever seen a chubby person?
>40 years oldHas this artist ever seen a 40 year old man?
No. 2487828
>>2487797>>2487799Look, i don't mind when people take inspiration from their favorite artists but she just straight up wants to be like Ari and following trends instead of creating something new or independent, that's a problem a lot of beginner twitter artists suffer from.
>>2487813>>2487818Was she called out for this?
No. 2487832
>>2487813i think she's saying he turns chubby after 39, thats why the age is up til 39 and the text says 40 and onward
is she ESL?
No. 2487841
File: 1744721409378.jpg (246.7 KB, 1170x769, insecurity.jpg)
>>2487828Too bad she’s just a lame copycat with worse designs, if she had even half of Ari’s level of popularity(and notoriety) she’d probably be so much more milky than Ari because of the nature of anachans kek
No. 2488236
File: 1744741310691.jpg (1.19 MB, 2043x2096, peak.jpg)
>>2488173ntayrt but agreed. I would say Brujo peaked around this time last year(picrel) and has been deteriorating since then, even before the thicker Kate style change. Her issues with anatomy became more glaring and her drawings became less interesting/dynamic, and I don’t think she’s improved much on either of those.
No. 2488452
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>>2488236>>2488383The fact that Alex is female is wounding me, they can't be a cute lesbian couple that would make too much sense.
No. 2488605
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>>2487019She posted this kek
No. 2488619
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>>2488605Of course she did. My oh my why is labelling yourself as "ace-spec" becoming popular again? Why did it not die in 2019 as it should have?
No. 2488663
File: 1744763638850.jpg (49.02 KB, 428x482, 1000029509.jpg)
Anons what do you recommend for getting out of…its not art block but i've been studying fundies and i feel a bit scared about being shit or worse than before? Last time i made a drawing from imagination after studies i did got better but i havent drawn in a while so im not sure where the insecurity stems from, maybe from the all the time i spent without drawing?.
Idek what to draw i have 0 ideas
No. 2488829
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>one of the /ic/ jannies is a lolipedo scrote
Ofcourse, i am glad i never joined all of the shitty discord shilled here. What a cesspit of a site.
No. 2488970
>>2488829Am I reading this right? This sounds more like
he's condemning loli artists. Is he talking about someone else?
No. 2489143
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>>2488236>>2488173Profression means change, not improve. Praying you two are just ESL kek
No. 2489157
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>>2489143Okay, her art progression still sucks kek
No. 2489177
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>>2489157what the FUCK are those tits. Would it kill her to let go of the triangular boobs after designing kate to be more round, it sticks out like a sore thumb
No. 2489181
>>2489157She looks greasy, why can't she choose a more warmer dark skintone?
>>2489177This one is so much better
No. 2489386
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>>2487555>trying to mimic old y2k shows>tranny shitKEK literally why would anyone watch this when you can watch shows from the actual time period that doesn’t have tranny garbage forced into it?
No. 2489403
>>2488829what is he even trying to say?
don’t pump lolishit to mainstream sites like twitter if you don’t want discourse or exposure. but i know they won’t like that because it effectively culls the export of their daily jerk off sessions. more proof otakus do this only to rebel against women
No. 2489492
>>2489466what the fuck are you talking about? meds
>>2489469this is what I meant. a tif in the 90s wouldve been a very clockable butch. that character feels very anachronic and out of place because even the most tranny entertaining crowds didnt view butch women as men back then. trannies overall just viewed themselves as something else entirely instead of trying to shoehorn themselves as their desired gender by going through plastic surgery/hormones.
No. 2489494
>>2489466No, it's just that most (Almost all) TIFs before the 2010's were lesbians. It started changing up during the late 2000's but throughout most of history and especially in the 20th century, a lot of lesbians just crossdressed or if shit was really bad for them, trooned out. And in the 90's most TIFs were basically just butches. We're just saying it'd make more sense for Alex to just be butch because the way brujoari is describing her "transition" that would supposedly happen in the early 90's doesn't really make sense. I also find Kate being a TIF kind of funny too, because that kind of straight woman TIF didn't really exist until like the 2010's kek
It's not that brujo, as an OSA woman needs to cater to SSA women or whatever, it's just that it makes no sense for her to make Alex a TIF. She'd be better off making Alex a male or a butch
No. 2489497
>>2487555I feel like someone with this character's gendie mental illness and bullying situation, in this time period,
wouldn't carry Hello Kitty themed objects around.
No. 2489613
>>2485746I give him 2 years before he starts calling himself “Lilith” or some moidbrain troon shit.
You can also tell by the way he sees and draws himself he watches the most rancid and deporable porn ever. These types need to be wiped out
No. 2489647
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>>2485746Does this kind of moid think we’re dumb? We know they have a fetish kek. Why do soymoids wanna be the “le wholesome lesbian protector”. The true honorary lesbians/lesbian protectors are the straight/bi women who are gigaterfs
No. 2489681
>>2489145Asexuality isn't real, unless you want to say that Brujo is an autist, schizo, traumatised, severly depressed, or has a physical medical condition.
>>2489647It doesn't help that handmaidens ooh and ahh over these moids, they're already porn rotten so they probably really are that retarded and think that no one else sees it unless they're a fellow male porn addict.
No. 2489799
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Can anybody please help me with foreshortening cylinders and ellipses? No matter what I do it just looks wrong in some way, even when I directly copy from a youtube video. The face of the cylinder is always too circular, or too pointy, or too wide to be properly attached to the lines that make it a cylinder. Ellipses are a whole other beast. When I draw them, its like pulling teeth. Something must always be too rounded or messy. I tried all the popular videos, proko, Kentucky, robert kiss, whatever. Is it simply an issue of not having enough practice and I must grind, or is my technique off in some way?
No. 2489867
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>>2489799An old technique for practicing ellipses is to draw one half first and then the opposite side.
No. 2489873
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>>2488683>>2488893Thanks anons,i appreciate your replies and will try to keep them in mind especially drawing for myself and not worrying about bad drawings too much
No. 2489979
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>>2487555ari is also encouraging self ship with her ocs now, according to a tweet.
No. 2490146
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>>2489799nonnie im not sure but i hope i can help you, idk but maybe you arent thinking about these specific things
>too circularif one side istoo circular try to think how the other side would look would it really show that much? or would it look even smaller than in your drawing?
>too wide to be properly attached to the lines that make it a cylinder.you could try to make really confident lines or use more guidelines like you were apparently going to do in the middle of the page of the drawing on the left
I also noticed that even in perspective some of your sidelines seem too short, and in the lower right drawing the lines closer to the circle seem to lose and like you didnt even try (no offense)
>Something must always be too rounded or messy.dont do the same lines too many times and keep your pencil sharp but dont or try with a fine liner, but dont do the same line over and over on the same spot because that also doesnt help make it look neater, maybe just try working on your pulse and line confidence
>Is it simply an issue of not having enough practice and I must grind?im not sure of how long youre taking with those drawing but they seem really quick, and its not like they should take too much, because theyre cilinders anyways, but grinding also needs some patience to make things look right, you could also try to look at some references and really observe amount the upper and lower circle show on the side, there's a lot of them in pinterest too
sorry for the bad quality just grabbed the first one i saw No. 2490192
>>2489466No, it just doesn't make sense when the story is supposed to take place in the 2000s. Her character wouldn't have had access to hormones or surgery as a minor back then. It's jarring especially for people old enough to have memory of the time.
>>2489647Is that supposed to be '
terf-chan' or something?
No. 2490234
>>2489157>>2487883It isn't badly drawn but these design choices seem a little weird to me. I look at
>>2488236 and I don't think it is badly drawn, the anatomy looks fine it's just stylized. I don't think her skill level has improved or deteriorated, it's more that her taste/style has developed away from her initial inspirations.
If she isn't going to use the y2k art style anymore is there any reason she still wants to use a 2000s setting? She doesn't seem super interested in making a time-accurate period piece, maybe a modern setting would be more cohesive for how her story is evolving.
No. 2490691
I wasn't terribly into 4chan's /ic/ boards, but I was thinking about remaking some of the more useful ones. (haven't checked if someone beat me to the punch already since 4chan's downfall) I know many nonas are paranoid their art will be connected to their identity elsewhere when involved on this site, but would anyone even be interested in a draw thread that isn't about rating per se, but about improvement? Or recreating the /dbag/ thread? (I think that's what it's called) Fishing around for interest moreso than anything. I was gonna make the OC shipping thread but you guys gave me some solid critique as to why it's a bad idea.
>>2490198Sometimes I let shit fandom takes age a little and go back and steal their ideas and rearrange things about it to draw them more in-character to satisfy my own pettiness. I find that if you stick to canon pandering more than mental breakdown projection headcanons, it attracts a bit more honest fans to your work.
No. 2490897
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i know they've incidentally been mentioned here before but does anyone else keep up with tenderism/orin and 1p3pino/pedro? orin in particular is one of my favourite art cows. for the uninitiated:
>orin is a filipino-american gendie who goes by "he/him" yet dresses like a cartoon prostitute or dollar-store alt girl and refuses to lose weight
>pedro is an argentinian guy who actually looks after himself and is physically fit
>initially had a long-distance romance
>both got legally married a few years ago, orin has seemingly thrown away her art degree to live with him in buenos aires (iirc)
>orin maintains a nsfw account on twitter (innermostvein) where, among other things, she brags about how big pedro's cock is
>pedro also has a side account where he draws various cartoon depictions of the two of them fucking
>orin is often depicted as having a dick despite otherwise being drawn as a 5-foot-something woman with huge breasts
>both have posted nudes multiple times
>the two of them film actual porn videos and sell them to followers on patreon
>their followers, of course, encourage this
picrel is them and their artwork. they fascinate me, both are skilled artists and yet this is how they choose to present themselves. i truly wonder how they occupy their time, since i imagine no art-related job is willing to hire two people who've openly posted their homemade pornography online. if a divorce arc happens i'll genuinely cheer, pedro gives off the biggest chaser vibes.
No. 2491037
>>2490691I have OCs and am always making content of them, would love a more general art thread where I can further invest in supporting other artists.
I'd also be more than willing to post work to help things get going. I used to be pretty active in trying to foster more community on /ic/ but these past few months I've been looking for alternatives so if theres anything I can help with then please let me know!
No. 2491376
>>2491084A general personal creations thread would be wonderful, broad enough to invite various artists.
>>2477921This might just be me but I think being fearful of posting work because of trannies just empowers them and is ultimately a loss since all it does is silence women. I want to support women who don't subscribe to the bullshit but it's impossible to find them because the only people vocal about their beliefs are gendies.
Granted I understand why people here don't, moids love having an excuse to harass women, etc. I just wish we'd stop catering to people who actively hate us, regardless of what we do.
No. 2491423
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I'm thinking about joining artfight this year, I don't really mind drawing from little kid's cool edgy mary sue oc, I think they're adorable. Regarding gendies, I think they're very easy to weed through even if they are plentiful.
No. 2491459
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To the nonas complaining about pronountards in art spaces; it’s amazing how far not actively promoting gendie shit and referring to yourself always as a woman will get you in terms of making TERF friends. I went back online in January after disappearing for a while and I’ve already cultivated a decently sized friendship circle of which I’m 99% sure are all based biological fujoshi queens. No gendieslop, no rotpocket fanart, no cuntboys, no yuri genderswaps, none of that shit. Just good old fashioned fangirling over hot husbandos making out. Have patience and your girls will find you, I promise.
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>>2491423you should nonna! the ones ive drawn for have been so sweet and grateful, and i love getting art back from them too! its so dang endearing.
No. 2491509
>>2491423Im doing it, and i made sure to get a wide variety of gendies and furries in my bookmarks so I can't get mean words for not being inclusive.
But I'm also 100% cheating by starting early, because I'm evil.
No. 2491512
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>>2491507From my experience usually I see fujos hetbend the ship (specifically jp artists, usually chinese ones are the ones who cuntboyfy) whereas tif/cuntboy shit has implications to troonshit butchering that turns off most fujos.
No. 2491518
>>2491494ayrt and I see! That makes a lot of sense, and I agree with your sentiments regarding separations and how lesbending tends to be viewed by spicy heterosexual women and degenerate moids who wish they were lesbians. I think les-bending is pretty good, because a lot of M/M ships are better that way in my eyes, but I understand that if you do that stuff you should tag it accordingly so that those who don't like lesbending a M/M ship won't see it. I hope my question didn't come off as aggressive or rude I was just curious as to why it was put on that level.
>>2491502What, hetbending is based and I don't see how it becomes yumejoshing?
No. 2491587
>>2491518Ntayrt when I usually see hetbending it's super out of character, suddenly the female character is a bimbo and the other guy is a chad, they get het stereotypes projected onto them. The other anon called it yumeing because it's usually a straight woman wanting to see straight content, which is
valid and fine, but I understand people who prefer to not see the canon be bent in general.
No. 2491640
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>>2491587On the topic of genderbends, one of my biggest pet peeves is when they draw the obvious bias character with massive tits even if it would be more in character for them to be flatter. even worse if they characterize him as a bimbo like you said
No. 2491647
>>2491512I feel like this isn't really fujo, just sorta fujo. That stuff I associate more with older fandom when fujoism wasn't as popular. Seems to have fallen out of popularity compared to M/M, I wonder if there would be less trans fan content if people went back to hetbending fujoships like that.
Naruko/Sasuke is cute.
No. 2491659
>>2491640Somewhat off-topic but holy fucking shit, I can't find a decent
femdom doujin without the main character always having huge tits. Whether it's Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc. OR, if the artist's a woman, why fucking add to the problem of objectification?
No. 2491742
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I'm experimenting with my style and I really want my digital art to look like old cartoons (picrel as an example), any tips?
No. 2491826
>>2491808I think the waning passion after too much time has passed is something every party experiences. One day you're just talking to your friends about how cool it would be to make a husbando zine and 8 months later you have to ship out hundreds of zines filled with shitty art of a character you don't even care about anymore during your vacation that wouldn't have been affected had there not been delays at every other step. I would definitely put it off for months in a case like that kek
The timelines are really insane though. As an artist I've never needed the full months they plan and ime and neither did anyone else. Most people including myself would procrastinate until the last week and bang their page out in a day. Or everyone would get an extra week because no one bothered to do work and the production timeline would shift further back. I didn't like doing my parts early because at the time I was participating in zines my skills were still developing and three months or whatever the mods had planned would mean a huge difference in quality. Projects like that only succeed if the people involved are really passionate or disciplined which online artists seldom are
No. 2491828
>>2491826True, I don’t really think I was ever truly excited to receive a zine I participated in in the mail. And the long production times is also annoying when you’re working on a piece and it won’t be until a year or more later when you actually get to post it, and that art is terribly outdated at that point so it’s too ugly to post.
And I wonder how often mods can just take a chunk of the profits (that doesn’t include their original share) before paying the artists and no one would ever know. Overall it’s just harder for me to trust zines now, so I stopped joining them for about a year or two since. A zine that started in 2022 and is still not complete is just fucking ridiculous and irresponsible
No. 2491845
>>2491742Breaking down the characteristics of your picrel:
>Bright, bold, but not too saturated colours>Dark flowy lineart>"Simple" characters against painterly backgrounds>Also, each character has a pretty simple colour scheme>Strong emphasis on shapes>Shading on the characters is mostly used to show areas with depth, shading in the background is a lot bolder and more dynamic>Painterly texturesLooking at the "building blocks" of the art styles you like and seeing how they all fit together can help, then you can decide which parts you like best. This is a very cute style by the way nona, good luck!
No. 2491896
>>2491851So true. There just need to be more resources for artists looking to get into it. The production, shipping or tax aspects are somehow never mentioned in guides. Basically all artists I know that sell physical items either had to learn how to do it through trial and error or they happened to know someone who could help them.
>>2491880Can you not google and look at reviews? Or just try any tablet that has a pen at a tech store near you to see if drawing on glass feels good to you. And if you order a tablet and dislike it you can simply return it.
No. 2492042
>>2491459Are you me, nona? I recently found a BL fandom that is compelling me into nailing my "hot guy" styles down. I also noticed that people in this fandom seem to skew older. While the gendies are present, they seem to be overlooked or not entertained. Someone pointed out that the nature of the source material tends to filter people out. Feels good.
>>2491498I've actually wanted to make a mixed yaoi + yuri + het work for my own enjoyment to share. Not necessarily explicit; I just like pretty-looking couples + I'm a fujohime. If I had to make one half be explicit, it'd be the yaoi couple since it'd filter the fuck out of my audience.
No. 2492130
>>2491947It really is just that comics take a long time to make. A page a week is pretty reasonable, since even that can be an insane amount of effort. That being said, I think if you're making a page a week, a monthly release schedule where you release a few pages a month would be my personal preference (or even going chapter by chapter and putting out chapters every few months).
>>2491659Real shit. I want a femdom manga where the FL looks like tomoko from watamote kek
No. 2492164
>>2492154If a zine is fully for charity most of the time it's just the mods wanting accolades, to be honest. I've moderated zines for a couple of years now and while I did do a few full charity projects usually the project itself was themed around the cause we wanted to showcase support for (ex. protecting the Amazon rainforest, associations for women
victims of abuse etc) for the sake of, well, support. To bring attention to the very thing we believed in and wanted to bring awareness to. For all my other zine projects, either they were 50/50 charity-profit or full profit because surprise, your contributors are artists and it's good practice to pay your artist with actual money, even more when the project is successful and profits are high.
When I see those fandom zines about completely random shit like "fairytale AU for this one gay bishie yaoi couple" that are full charity it never sits well with me.
>the mods did always get their shares of profit.This too never sat well with me. In the full charity zines I modded for, the most the mods would get would be like 50 bucks to cover up some stray costs at the end of the project. The moment a project was decided to be full charity all of the money it gets has to be split between covering costs and charity, with as little as possible going for the mods. It just feels dissonant tbf to take a slice of a full charity zine's profits while all of your artists and writers are getting paid with a physical book and janky merch + some exposure. It feels unfair. So much talk about "paying your artists" but when it comes to those projects so many seem to try to avoid actually paying the contributors as much as possible.
No. 2492188
>>2492181(NTA) While I do agree with you that nowadays fandom works are way too profit oriented, I have to say it's kind of shitty to organize a huge project that spans an entire year, if not two, with an entire selection process and a marketing setup (aka all artists also need to market the zine around on top of working on their pieces), only for you to get nothing except a physical copy while the mods take a bite out of the money before sending the rest for charity. The issue is that nowadays zine projects are an entire production line that nearly has actual work schedules depending on the project, and not paying your artists even a single dime considering all of that is pretty shitty.
If zines were similar to their original concept aka just a fun group project to showcase love for a series, then yeah making it profit-oriented is stupid. But if you're going to make 30 or so artists go through what's nearly a job application and screening process and take up almost a year of their workload only to later pay them with an overproduced book and shitty merch then at least have the decency to give them some sort of proper reward.
No. 2492670
>>2491459Yeah! Me too! While they're not necessarily friends
yet, the fandom I've entered has an overwhelmingly female base. Most of them do put their pronouns in bio, but it's either she/her or "do not ask for my pronouns". Judging from the things they draw, it is evident they are CLEARLY women.
The moid side of this fanbase also vehemently hate troons and I think that is mirrored onto the female side of it too. I've seen some poc recolors of the characters, sure, but not a single trans version of any character in the characters' tags and it's really refreshing! I wish good luck onto all other nonas too! Just believe!
No. 2492730
>>2492694I'm in the same boat Nona. I put out good work and all anyone ever has to say to me is how underrated I am and how much potential I have and how am I not getting more traction. I'm not flattered by it, it doesn't feel good, and I really don't like spending so much time rubbing shoulders with other artists. I just don't like interacting all that much so it always works against me. When I talk to others on socials a lot it takes up so much time and energy and I'm just not as invested.
I focus a lot on my own work so that I don't feel like I'm missing out. But it does suck when you're constantly overlooked for someone else who clearly isn't better skill wise but plays the social media game more frequently.
Just keep making your art. People who find it will fall in love with it. It might not be many but they'll be loyal. I don't believe in posting multiple times a day and spending all that energy hoping people notice me in the comments. I've played that game and it always feels fake and desperate, especially if it ends up not working. I miss the days of posting and letting people admire it - it'd carry you til the next post. Who cares about my personality outside of my work anyway. It's a parasocial game nowadays. Sorry if I derailed.
No. 2492736
>>2492714How I've seen others do it is
>save up a bunch of posts in advance>queue them>post less when you get enough followers>when you want more followers just repeatThere's always the possibility that other accounts may be buying followers or engagement.
No. 2492911
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Does anyone have resources about color theory but more focused on character design? i am struggling a lot picking colors for a character and then trying to find out whats the best 'color proportion' for each colors if that makes sense
No. 2492923
>>2491459God sometimes I wish I wasn't a dyke so I could enjoy/draw BL and men like normal women do, it's so hard to connect with others since female-oriented/populated spaces and our interests are polar opposites (and my content attracts moids like flies on top…)
I haven't lost hope though.
No. 2492928
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chronically online discourse: op is pissed that someone yumes their oc
No. 2492941
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>>2492938nevermind its this ugly generic furfag thing
No. 2492943
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>>2492928I had someone yumeing my characters and it was annoying as fuck because I never even talk about oc lore because I have some retarded neurosises and she was writing full on fanfiction to me about him and her having sex and Highschool Werewolf AUs and it was mildly upsetting. I'm not even a little big I just caught a stray bullet.
>>2492941Ew, holy scratch.mit.edu warrior cats batman.
No. 2492946
>>2492943>she was writing full on fanfiction to me about him and her having sex and Highschool Werewolf AUsI am sorry
nonny but this is hilarious. I bet it was annoying but it sounds so autistically charming from the other side.
No. 2492949
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https://x.com/Zhane_Star/status/1913238163642106261Porn artist sees woman in the grocery store and draws himself having sex with her, sees her again later and shows her, and reports back that she liked it.
I think this autist was stalking her and she was probably freaked out and said whatever she could to not provoke him.
Or this is all fake and he made up some fantasy in his gooner mind.
I hate men.
No. 2492957
>>2492946Kek, in hindsight it is funny. She was mostly harmless but fuck it was draining.
>>2492949I hope to god it's fake like that one comic about the guy falling asleep on a woman in a bus
No. 2492962
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>>2489157i just figured out what her boobs remind me of
No. 2492963
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>>2492949All those qrts and replies calling op a socially awkward sex negative puritanical virtue signalling moralfagging bully. Total coomer death
No. 2492970
>>2492929I manage by not being in them kek Most of them are gatcha games, which are not my cup of tea. I mostly hang out in RPG/VN fandoms since that's what I like playing; most yuri series suck because they're written by men, so I prefer to play "normal" games and just get happy when getting surprise crumbs (latest one was Digimon CSHM, but that one has a fandom of 2 people unafortunely)
On social media I live in a cycle of "Create account -> Think "maybe it's not so bad" -> Remember the atrocities men comit -> Deletes acc to not feed them (I like drawing pinups) -> Repeat"
Not long ago I complained about how most f/f fics lately were about girldick and no one called me transphobic or anything though, so maybe the world is slowly healing. But yeah, it's generally bad, both on the inside and outside (retarded men keep draging lesbians' reputation on the mud)
No. 2493011
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Nonas does anyone else find drawing faces from the front the most frustrating thing ever? I have this serious problem where the jawline will always be crooked when I flip the canvas, pic rel. it drives me insane because this is a problem I’ve been experiencing for years. I always flip the canvas often to make sure my drawing looks right, especially when drawing front facing faces, and adjusting it until it’s no longer crooked.
It’s so damn ugly and annoying to look at but no matter how much I try to practice, I don’t seem to improve. And I don’t really want to resort to using the mirror symmetry tool as a crutch
No. 2493017
>>2492929nta but i'm similar to
>>2492970 in that i'm not really a part of fandoms to begin with. personally i follow lesbian artists on account of them being lesbians alone, which leads me mostly to oc artists or women who draw yuri pairings i don't know or care about. it's kinda lonely and i do wish there were true lesbian majority yuri fandoms but i'll take what scraps i can get kek
No. 2493078
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>>2493057definitely picrel. she's a south korean lesbian who draws mainly f/f and has never drawn any pro-troon stuff to my knowledge despite being in a fandom infested with gendies (ffxiv). picrel is her artwork of herself and her gf, she's clarified that they both are women and not gendies.
not to generalise but given the extremely negative backlash to feminism in south korea and the fact that the majority of open feminists and lesbians in the country are
terf/rad-leaning i have little doubt that she isn't.
No. 2493189
>>2493078I absolutely love her art, I love that she's a lesbian, I love all her lesbian characters and depictions.
She's such a breath of fresh air
No. 2493201
>>2493057I follow a handful or women who while I don't think are crypto, they never post tranny shit or pronoun politics. When it comes to 2D art is harder, but I noticed artists who focus on crochet, fashion, ceramics and similar tend to be more "normie" adjacent, which is a breath of fresh air.
>>2493101>We still enjoy BL content way more than any f/f pairingsThat's the issue, I don't enjoy m/m at all and that's what most female spaces are about. Very happy for you though, I have seen lots of fujo lesbians as well but we just don't click at all due to their interests being around men in a way or another.
No. 2493215
>>2493201Nta, I understand your feelings. I don't like m/m or even necessarily ship content at all but definitely not yaoi or m/m. I can't fit into "husbando" themed spaces because while I have male characters like a lot, it's not with that attraction slant. As you said, there's very few spaces that aren't about males/fictional attraction to males but are about female characters but not from a male POV.
Long story short, I'm just not interested in talking about m/m but I also don't want to talk about f/f or female characters at all, with men. It's hard.
No. 2493348
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>>2492911This is how i approach character colors nonna, i hope it helps some! Values i think are really what make or break things
No. 2493399
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>>2493011Try using guidelines or starting with a square. I have a bazillion references if you need any on different approaches to guidelines, should you want to pursue that option.
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>>2493101How do you feel about genderbent f/f of m/m pairings? theyre my guilty pleasure and they give me my militia yuri kick in the sea of moeblob scroteshit
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I have been drawing for 4 years and i still dont know how to draw faces no matter how much loomis i study. It pisses me off.
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>>2494012I dont think soul has anything to do with skill, moreso with the vibes and effort of your art. Someone drawing a big titty animu girl in a white void is inherently soulless regardless of skill.
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>>2492957>that one comic about the guy falling asleep on a woman in a busYou mean this one or something else?
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>>2492957>>2494072Probably this one?
https://twitter.com/raindoll_art/status/1879084350106743099There’s way more panels in the thread, artist made it unnecessarily long as shit kek
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Anons i looked everywhere for the Julien drawing course but i cant find it nowhere all i found were some lithographies so i guess thats useful but apart from that its all sale links and i dont want to buy it. I have the Bargue one on pdf but i dont want it. Any nonnies know where to get it/get a link? i wanted to post on resources thread but its not as active as this one
No. 2494711
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>>2492941Are you sure that's the OC? Because that looks exactly like Kapi from that one FNF mod.
Did the original creator have drama and this person is reclaiming the character as a "fuck you" to him/petty armchair activism or is she straight up getting possessive over her fanart of a character that isn't hers (yume on yume violence)?
In any case, she sounds at least mildly whiny, but the other kids sound way more retarded than her.
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Anyone else struggles coming up with poses? i am so fucking bad at it, even with refs
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did anyone happen to see what this bitch heartmush posted before she deleted it kek? knowing her, those prices were probably inflated as hell
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What makes art ''soulful'' in your opinion? my art is really bad, but i want to try and make a game anyways. I always hear people praise zun's and Ryukishi's art despite the lack of technical skill, and i want to know what makes their art have 'soul'.
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Sorry nonnies but since /ic/ is dead i got nowhere else to ask. Does anyone have the brushes from this pack?
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>>2494868Based on these replies it seems like the range could be $1,250-2,000(but she says the price is a “pretty good deal”) for a design sheet like the one pictured here. She also prices based on a ~$40/hour salary.
For comparison, an industry professional working with an animation studio offered me $1000 per character design, including providing fullbody turnarounds and a few expressions per character.
Generally I think artists should price however they want because they’re severely undervalued, but admittedly I have less sympathy for a rich spoiled he/they gendie, who went to a 50k tuition private art school(RISD), attempting a career in drawing $1200+ generic anime girl art for similarly rich frivolous customers kek. If people saying her art isn’t worth that much gives her anxiety she should get over it.
>>866684>Her family is super rich and I recall her auntie giving her thousands of dollars for her birthday. No. 2494966
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>>2494958Oh wow nona I had no idea about this old milk, thanks for sharing this with me. I never liked her but now I like her considerably less. Big artists like her always have this kind of entitled and snobby vibe that I can’t really describe but her vibes still gave me more icks regardless.
>She also had a nsfw period no one knew about. But she decided to bring it up and share her nudes on her private.Wish this anon was still here, because does she mean an actual nsfw account where she posts irl nude photos of herself?? Or just nudes of her oc? Sorry if it’s obvious, I’m just in that much disbelief. And $40 per hour is an insane rate for most jobs in the world, I thought I was being greedy for thinking about having my commissions $20 per hour which is over the minimum wage in my state. Do big name Disney/pixar/dreamworks professionals even get paid that much?
To be honest, I was expecting a large sum such as $600 or something but $1.2k is absurd. I can see why she deleted it kek. You just know the priv quotes were rightfully roasting her.
I’ll be reading that old thread you linked to try to read as much milk from her as possible. I hope that googling “heartmush lolcow” should show all the posts, I never knew she had actual milk content on her, but based on her whole vibe and how anal she is about her ugly cringe ocs with a laughably amateurish style, I can’t say I’m surprised. And the way she draws faces is so hideous kek, the faces are always so punchable.
It makes total sense that she’s a spoiled rich bitch, which makes her demanding one fucking grand for her ugly unoriginal slop she calls “art” even more hilarious
No. 2494975
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I joined a cool art project (like 10 artists involved), everyone but the organizer were on time and met the deadlines as far as I could tell but eventually all we got was radio silence. It's been a year since we last heard from the organizer. I suddenly remembered the project, so I looked the organizer up more closely. I had a very evil bigoted terfy hunch that someone who fails that badly and doesn't take any accountability must be a troon. It didn't take much digging to find an ugly greasy selfie and indeed clock him as a troon (a transbian at that). It all makes sense now. I've only got myself to blame for not looking him up right away, but in my defense I only joined because a mutual artist friend recommended it and other cool bigger artists I liked were joining in too. Isn't it amazing how you can't trust troons to do anything right no matter what area in life it's in?
No. 2494977
>>2494868>character design is worth That amount of money if not moreCan’t tell who’s more annoying, the troon who wants to sell her overpriced art to idiots or the idiots who slurp that shit up and even says she deserves to raise it more.
>>2494958>but admittedly I have less sympathy for a rich spoiled he/they gendieCompletely agree, I wouldn’t care if an ordinary person who doesn’t leech off their family did this actually. Judging from nonas who have talked about her before, there’s a good reason why so many people cut ties with heartmush, to the point of even creating a whole new server just to get away from her…so seeing someone mindlessly defend her is kinda embarrassing, like they have no idea how cuckoo in the head she is
No. 2494992
>>2494958>is a spoiled rich sheltered woman >immediately gets muh panic attacks when the responses she gets criticize her slightly like clockwork
funny how this cow is getting brought up again so here’s another fun fact; i remember dropping by in the middle of her twitch stream and something must’ve happened because she put up a new sign on her layout saying something like “my pronouns are he/they” and people in the chat reminding others to use her correct pronouns KEKKKK she was talking about how she knows that people are unaware but too many people were misgendering her lately. and she has the most female sounding voice ever keke, her whole image on social media is pink, her persona is obviously a girl, she dresses up very femininely, but still insists on he/they pronouns? i get that tifs are retarded but this case truly confuses me, even other tifs would never do that so what gives
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>>2494985I think there is a resource thread they can go to (and if there's not I'll make one right now). I'm getting tired of the large amounts of zestlessness of posts in the past few days myself.
Because of /ic/tards perhaps? The shoo shoo schizo knew about us so not so much of a far fetched idea>>2494975I swear to god the narcy sollipism troons have makes them unable to consider other people and so they ruin everything. I hope there was no money involved but it would still be annoying nonetheless.
No. 2495009
>>2495007If no one responds here you think they are going to respond in an even slower board?
>>2495008And i dont like certain dramas or anons talking about how they have to larp as gendies to not get cancelled and you know what i do? scroll past them. Its not that hard.
No. 2495024
>>2495015I wasn't saying we neccessarily had to make a new thread just not to do it in this one, I am
>>2495002 I literally mentioned the thread, I'm just not sure if it can work as it's been mostly a
tutorial dump rather than an asset dump.
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>>2494958>500-800$ for a fullbodyWhat happened between 2019 and now? And she posts so little, does she have a job or something? I can't believe a nepo neet wouldn't have the time to draw more
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>>2495087This is the resume on her website. It could be outdated because her last tweet about Class101 was in 2022 about completing the final chapter of her course? So her current work might just be commissions (and selling stuff at cons)
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>>2494772Poses are the only thing I take pride in. A good method I use is to write a letter (Like the letter Y) and draw a random circle on it. I stare at it and try to come up with a pose. Alternative methods like picrel work too.
No. 2495213
>>2494855Redrawing bad art. When I run out of ideas, I just do anatomical and compositional corrections of stuff other people make. I don't show it to them, obviously, but it allows me to experiment with things I'm unfamiliar with to assist with how I see stuff? Hard to explain. That and thumbnail duplications of art I find appealing. Breaking things down into
why I like it helps immensely.
>>2494764I think artists who draw without guidelines also are the ones that end up having sameface or very little variation in their pieces. Like all blanket statements, there is probably an exception here and there, but nothing terribly exciting or heavy reliance on rendermaxxing.
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I had interest in the general art thread from a few days ago but didn't want to overstep since I don't come here too much, is it okay to post art here or is it better to go to the rate thread?
No. 2495450
>>2495438I don't think the deleted posts were about the personal creations thread discussed earlier in the thread. I'd still be happy seeing it made too.
But yep, If you want direction with a piece, the rate thread is where to post.
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>>2495438 >>2495450
Sorry I forgot to make it. I don't know how to make threads so it's going to be dog water. Sorry in advance, nonas.
No. 2495692
>>2494992When are the woke gendie teenagers going to enter their 'eat the rich' phase and turn on the obnoxious rich artists? I'd love to see a slapfight. Too bad the chance is highly reduced because heartmush is both a
woc and a fellow gendie. I'd love to see it though.
No. 2495696
>>2495692Unfortunately, conspicuous consumption is in right now. It'll take a lot of discontent for them to turn on her
or just one really dedicated autist with a bone to pick.
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Sageblog but If there's something I miss from /ic/ was to share CSP brushes. I can buy the gold ones, but not the clippy ones.
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I don't mind zoomers who act human, but seeing someone write literally anything, answer a question, provide helpful crit or advice and get just "oooo" is response drives me absolutely insane. I've seen this so many times and I don't get it. These are the same people who sperg for 2 pages about their retarded OCs and expect someone to respond in turn.
No. 2496041
>>2496000Yep, just "ooooo" like what the fuck is "ooooo"?
IA on the OC "info dumping". It'll just be the most basic, trite mess like what aesthetics they like
No. 2496071
>>2495692That'll never happen kek neet internet artists with rich parents are not the enemy to focus on when people like Musk and Bezos exist. Especially since heartmush barely posts and doesn't brag about her situation
>>2495978Why not the clippy ones? Make literally any kind of decorative brush to publish on there and you'll get more than you'll ever need
No. 2496091
>>2495625I do 3D modelling (character sculpts and environment design), and I 3D print as well (resin/SLA, not filament/PLA). I like to make models of my ocs and print custom GKs of them, since I like making and painting miniatures as well– I lost my mind working on my last original print project and basically modelled and printed a whole diorama with two characters, and that was a lot of work lmao so no more of that for a while– and am currently working on a figure of my dnd character (I do a lot of printing and painting for my dnd group, but not often custom modelling). Best thing about 3D is that it really does feel like the 'end product' of drawing in a lot of ways (imo sculpting in zbrush feels a lot like drawing/painting anyway and has skill overlap), and 3D printing just makes your ideas feel so tangible and
real. Worst thing imo is hard surface modelling, I can do it now but it's really not my preference and I'd rather work with organic forms and sculpting programs any day than make eg props in Maya kek.
I went to uni for this shit (3D modelling/animation), so don't have the best knowledge of who'd be helpful as a resource, but some youtubers that helped me when I was starting out and learning programs/technique were follygon (his method for blocking out characters is really easy to learn), flipped normals, and Michael Pavlovich (might not be the best
artist but his technical knowledge of the programs he uses is excellent and he makes a video on pretty much every function in them and how to use them). Can't go wrong with finding a copy of Anatomy for Sculptors either. I suggest learning the basics/how to do things properly first before looking for hacks.
What kind of 3D printing do you want to do? Bit hard to help out without that
Some various 3D artists I like:
Nikita Veprikov
Pauline Boiteux (she's a texture artist but she's too good not to include)
Gabriel Soares
Olga Cornacchia
Florent Desailly
Zhelong Xu
Eddy Loukil
Milan Vasek
Maria Panfilova
(all can be found on artstation btw)
What are you interested in 3D modelling/printing for? Any goals in mind?
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Feels like Shen is gonna troon out soon. And his art is horrendously ugly good god(repost)
No. 2496380
>>2495987I usually respond with nonsensical sounds like this because I type the way I talk kek So if someone says "Try this" I will respond "oou I see, I see..". Main difference is that I do say
thank you when something works or generally stay polite in these exchanges. Not a
total mouth breathing zoomer, just a millennial who has remnants of early y2k deviantART autism in my typing habits.
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God how I wish Ikimaru got better. She is so consistent at drawing, her Homestuck art looks as if it only evolved maybe a fraction to where it is now. And she colors pupils! Is this what it looks like when an artist is happy with their art and doesn't feel compelled to change?
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I love listening to the annoying scrote in my art class fuck up on the cricut machine because he doesn't know that you have to adjust your image's measurements to fit the design space program. I'm not sharing any cricut girlie secrets
No. 2496648
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>>2496627That's a weird mentality. I've always seen the art of illustration as a journey moreso than an attention magnet. Yeah, sure, she could just continue not to improve because she makes a monetary gain off of it, or because she gets clicks. But I, personally, feel disgustingly dissatisfied with myself if, say, a new fictional husbando is discovered from a new IP, and I can't
draw his ass because he's a body type I've never tried to learn. So then, doing something like drawing him too skinny or too lanky would feel gross and terrible.
But that's a personal preference. I want to be able to create environments, use beautiful color schemes. Works of art that impress me. But if you're an artist worth your salt, picrel shows that it will inevitably hit you that "damn, my art is bad" even if a ton of others think it's good. I couldn't live with myself like that.
And? I don't want to be better than the people I admire. I want them to grow too. Being able to see my admirations' mistakes upsets me. I don't want to talk shit about her in a way like
>her art sucks ass>this bitch can't drawlike Brujo fans. I want her to grow. I like Ikimaru.
No. 2496711
>>2487797>>2487799God I hate wannabe ana chans like this, she wishes she could actually be underweight so she makes her self insert oc unrealistically so. Refers to 49kg as chubby and ignores the fact that most anorexic women thend to swing the opposite way and go obese once they recover.
People need to start calling these unoriginal trend following retards that make wish fulfillment art on being anorexic, I bet she doesn't even cut either, holy shit.
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I love Welter Everett nonnies. Does anyone have recs of artists that use similar saturated strong color palettes?
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>>2496712another one i really like
No. 2496721
>>2496701nta Makes me sad that comments like these have been deleted so quickly. I went to piss and it was gone.
I still think not including pronouns anywhere in bio is a good tip and has too high of a chance of confusing us for those that aren't farmers for it to be clockable. That way, people that aren't gender stupid get art from farmers.
No. 2496796
>>2496745ayrt Okay, see,
that shit will scramble my brain and I'd definitely read too much into it. If I do an art trade for someone and they don't reply with keysmash or a really spaztic gif or all caps, I'd start thinking they didn't like it.
Might just be me though; I prefer to have over-the-top reactions to receiving art thank lukewarm, one-worded responses. No. 2496808
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Anyone else feel bored with perspective? I cant find any sort of fun in it even though i have fun with literally any other fundamental, i still try to study it sometimes because i consider it necessary but its one of the things i just cant seem to enjoy.
I know not everything about learning is supossed to be fun but being so boring doesnt really help my stagnation with it
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I hate that one of the artists that inspire me the most is a furry and a he/him woman, her art is so cool but the subject matter is so cringy. Im so glad i didnt get the kind of autism where i like horse and dog dicks and want to be a "femboy"
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>>2496648I just think it's unhealthy? I don't always mind wanting to improve—sometimes it's necessary, especially for things like anatomy. But there has to be a point where you say, “This is enough,” and let yourself rest until it feels right to pick things up again. I want to make my dreams come true, but constantly telling myself “I'm not good enough” isn't a healthy mindset, even if the goal is to get better. Your art is good—maybe not perfect, but good. And that matters. Be proud that you can draw at all. That's something a lot of people wish they could do.
Honestly seeing all these post makes me wonder why I'm an artist to begin with especially as I see art in my skill level posted on the bad art thread. It just, puts a very bad taste in my mouth that forces me to never share my art online. The more transient the better.
Like art to me is a hobby. I don't draw fanart often–no spark or desire for it. I have zero interest in doing comics and the like. And if I ever make a game, it's text based because art just feels separate from the content I make. I just draw because it brings joy to me and the people who enjoy it. And though there's some subjects I wish to tackle, it isn't in service to a long journey to perfection, I just wanted to see if I can do it. Other people are, and I wanna try it too.
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>when you're aware of your own art regression
>people are pointing it out
I'm just in my awkward stage. I'm anatomymaxxing, so things are going to be a little more stiff for a while until my anatomy comprehension/confidence is better.
No. 2496893
>>2496842nta, but there's a difference between a "I'm not good enough" that comes from a negative mindset and something like "I like what I have, but it could be better" which is a perfectly healthy mindset to have towards your own art imo. Reminds me of fatties who think you have to hate your body to lose weight when I think weight loss plans tend to stick better when the person specifically does not treat the process as some form of self-flagellation.
I agree with you though that not every artist should feel obligated to constantly improve, especially if it's their hobby and not their job. I personally go through periods where I'm grinding my fundies like a crackhead or doing master studies of artists I look up to and other times where I kick back draw whatever I feel like even if it's trite or repetitive. Even with all that said, it still does kind of suck to see an artist I like stagnate after years and years, especially if I think they have to potential to make some really good work.
No. 2496915
>>2496906Just wanna be clear that I'm not the op you were originally replying to (I feel like I keep running into anons who don't know what nta means).
>Kek will you send her an ask about it on tumblr? See if it'll come across as motivating to her or if she'll spiral? Or flat-out ignore it?No? It's like seeing an old classmate on Facebook who seemed like they were gonna do big things in life turn out to just marry some scrote and is happy as a mom blogger or whatever. I'm not gonna interact with her or demand she turns her life around, but I'm also not gonna deny feeling disappointed about it, especially on an anonymous IB she's never gonna see kek
No. 2496943
>>2496842>I don't always mind wanting to improve—sometimes it's necessary, especially for things like anatomy.>let yourself rest until it feels right to pick things up againayrt Yeah. That makes sense. The perspective I'm talking from is over a course of 10 years. The fact that it never felt right for some people to improve in any sort of way in 10 years makes me wonder if there is a mental block there.
>Your art is good—maybe not perfect, but good. And that matters. Be proud that you can draw at all. That's something a lot of people wish they could do.I just like some things to happen and for me to make them happen. I can't be… static. But I'm also incredibly insecure and have accomplished nothing else in my life.
No. 2496975
>>2496906>Kek will you send her an ask about it on tumblr? See if it'll come across as motivating to her or if she'll spiral? Or flat-out ignore it? I really don't understand that feeling.samefag from
>>2496504 but that's kind of a schizo feeling you have going on there. Nobody should be bullying an artist just because their art degrades or stagnates. I was simply complaining after checking up on her after forgetting she existed for a decade. Leave her alone? I don't even think she capes for trannies (didn't check), so that's really a mentality for stirring up shit when it isn't necessary.
If she wants to stagnate, she can stagnate. I'm not her mom. I'm not her boss. I'm just disappointed in what I saw.
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My friend joined a comic/manga zine a while back, they have a theme but could write whatever they wanted and all decided to only share the near finished versions together as a surprise now nearing production. Everyone but my friend and one more artist turned their story into a lesbian plot. To be clear the theme wasn't romance or yuri or anything related like that kek my friend showed them all to me and is thinking of pulling out last minute but fears backlash. It's really all navel gazing tumblr tier slop with vitiligo disabled muslims and troon characters (so half of them are also straight stories posing as yuri) and I feel so sorry for her but it's also hilarious seeing it and hearing her talk about how they all slowly realized they weren't the only one doing mind blowing woke representation and that they were in fact all the same. Imagine reading the same "plot twist" (the twist is that she's totally actually GAY and not straight) ten times over and every artist thought they'd be the only one blowing your mind with this.
No. 2497467
>>2497381i’m so tired of yurishitters, i swear that most of the hype that they do feels so forced and has no real passion at all, it’s just them trying to fit in because it gains clout quickly. whole thing feels very cheap. i’m talking about those “ughhh step on me mommy/i’m so gay for her” “GREEN YURI GREEN YURI GREEN YURI” “[series] yuri?? so peak” comments. the type of gendies and freaks who will lap up anything if it’s suddenly turned into muh “yuri”. and they mostly keep saying the japanese term much more compared to the words lesbians and sapphics because they’re obnoxious weebs.
and yeah it’s especially prevalent in the comic community of artists. in shortbox there’s so many tards making muh qUeEr romance comic and it’s marketed as yuri, makes me roll my eyes so hard at how insanely unoriginal and creatively bankrupt 90% of these comic artists are.
is anyone else seeing the cringe fanart of the new horse racing trend on twitter being yuri of the horses kek? making the horses bland animu waifus is already an unoriginal and cringe move but of course they had to make it yUrI for maximum internebs brownie points
No. 2497501
>>2497467As a himejo I agree with you, I stopped interacting with anyone who claims to be into yuri because there's no soul behind it. Support group for himejos now kek.
Also do you mean the horseracing anime usa musume? That was a thing in 2018 and a Japanese guy joked that no pixiv artists were allowed to draw r18 of the horses because they were owned by the Yakuza and no one wanted to be hunted down for disrespecting the Yakuza's property, but then he made a new tweet announcing some shit like "I am here to formerly apologise to the yakuza for my previous tweet. Please, no one believe the previous tweet, I was misinformed and ignorant." Those two tweets are the most prominent thing I remember about that horsegirl anime where they run like naruto.
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>>2497501>Also do you mean the horseracing anime usa musume?It's this
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do you take short breaks in-between finishing an art piece? i'm getting so exhausted if it takes longer than 2 hours to finish a fully rendered drawing and not just some shitty scribbles
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>>2497510Ayrt that joke is so unfunny kek but it does look like how the anime is drawn where it's just ears and a tail. According to Wikipedia:
>An anime television series adaptation of Uma Musume: Cinderella Gray premiered in April 2025.RIP to your timeline.
No. 2497559
>>2497467>>2497501It usually bothers me less if the interest is genuine, like if they draw only women and don't bother fishing for trend points by making one of them trans. Then they can be cringe, and I'll let it slide. Fujo and hime enthusiasm are both
valid to me.
No. 2497587
>>2497510>>2497543yup that’s the horse racing thing i was referring to, i think the fanart where artists draw them as the silly little blobs that they canonically look like are the best type of fanart from it, and when people just draw them as actual horses kek. it’s so obvious that the yuritards who keep drawing them as animu blobs were inspired by the jap game
>>2497559as a lesbian i feel too disgusted/ashamed to associate myself with most yuritards, finding someone who seems normal and chill about wlw relationships is unfortunately a rarity, even other radfems can be obnoxious but its rarer from them though, with gendie zoomies being main offenders. sadly most yuri art (specifically the anime style) has been kinda ruined for me because of how disgusting moids latch onto it too kek
No. 2497624
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does anyone know the current whereabouts of Koko McPedo Chou? whenever an artist like this vanishes without a trace (all of her socials are gone and/or locked behind passwords) its either they can live off the bank of mommy and daddy comfortably even when no longer working in their field or they've pulled anhero
No. 2497846
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Juby(@CutTimeComic) finally published a callout post for Genice on Twitter
No. 2497853
>>2497846>>2497849Juby is actively inside the doc, we need a
nonny to archive it ASAP. I threw it in archive.is but I'm still stuck in the queue.
No. 2497861
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>>2497856samefag, seems like she threw it out after Genice is raving about a successful shop opening KEK, she is seething so hard Genice is thriving while she's been malding for months consecutively
No. 2497878
>>2497846>>2497853Archive of Juby's document:
https://archive.is/3wwxxArchive of Genice's Manifesto linked in the document:
https://archive.is/0UHeS>>2497849 No. 2497886
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>>2497846KEKKKK THIS RETARD REALLY DID IT
No. 2497889
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>>2497846Wow, truly insane situation. Juby seems so fucking annoying when she presses genice to apologize for stealing… a wing design and colorscheme? But then genice starts talking about how she was told that god wants juby to shut the fuck up kekk what the fuck
No. 2497891
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>>2497889And who could forget this heinous copying of original thought
No. 2497898
>>2497889>she was told that god wants juby to shut the fuck upKEKKKKK if I didn't hold doubts that Juby could've manipulated the evidence to be on her favour I could believe that its a cow clash out holy shit
>>2497877I tinfoil she made it 61 pages long so she could secretly hope zoomies wont be arsed to read that much text and jump to dogpile genice because she said so.
No. 2497910
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>>2497893>KiwifarmsScreenshot for the Brits?
No. 2497914
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>>2497870>>2497889I’m so glad I’m not christian
No. 2497927
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>>2497910Sorry about the gunt. The text underneath it is "almost impossible to shame them. Just so people know these". The embedded youtube video is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGj0xMWReQMNTAYRT, idk what the connection actually is between Koko and Gura; I think this post is just an example of Gura being a lolicon.
No. 2497936
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>>2497846Am I missing something or is this a whole lot of nothing? Admittedly I skim read the doc because I'm at work, but really, is that it? The three things Juby presents is:
>Genice made a character with ribbon wings when Juby already has a character with ribbon wings (which isn't an original concept in the first place)>Genice may have been inspired by/referenced an art piece by Juby>Genice introduced the concept of guardian spirits in her project, when Juby already had that concept. She also allegedly copied the phrasing from an old tweet by Juby (lmao)I'm genuinely confused. Is that it? Juby flat out says at the beginning of the document that she helped Genice brainstorm Eden's Gate. Both projects are inspired by their Christian faith. Of course it's going to have similarities, especially when you're the one that's helping her come up with ideas.
What a whole nothing-burger. The discord messages from Genice made me cringe because you can just tell she is bending over backwards to try to appease Genice. The religious manifesto is weird, I'll admit it. I don't get Christfags, but I can't really hold the manifesto against Genice, since it seems that her way of getting out of a
toxic friendship is through her religion. I really hope this doesn't blow up for her. Juby timing this around Genice's shop opening is just nasty
No. 2497945
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>>2497910>>2497927>>2497935>>2497939Oopsie, here's the correct post then. Since there's a lot of media on it I'm not grabbing everything; it's all just examples of pedoshit anyway.
No. 2497968
>>2497949One of Genice's tweets in that screenshot says something about the MC saving the demon (could be reading that wrong) which has parallels to or is directly inspired by the fact that a lot of Christians believe that Satan and all the other demons could return to heaven if they were repentant and thus purified and saved. Though really it depends on the intention of the character, however I don't think it matters that much especially when Christians write worse stuff.
>>2497936I mean, it was always going to be nothing more than airing out personal spats. It's funny how Juby brings up Genice being weird about God as if no one was listening to her during her live streams.
No. 2497983
>>2497972That's just how she is. Her streams are equally obnoxious to listen to
>>2497968>it was always going to be nothing more than airing out personal spatsThat's what I figured but from the way Juby was hyping up her callout post for months on stream, you'd think it'd be more substantial and not just pages of Juby misconstruing Genice's words in the worst light possible
No. 2497989
>>2497849These problems she has are so.. minor. I can understand that straining a friendship, surely, but at the same time, Genice seems like a retard as well? Stealing ideas directly from a friend while she's spoonfeeding you them? kek
They're made for each other.
No. 2498000
>>2497983I mean in her eyes she probably does think this is some strong smoking gun. It's funny to remember that this was 5 months in the making.
>>2497990I don't know if it will blow up in her face tbf. A lot of twitter callouts rely more on emotion than the actual evidence being presented. Plus the majority of people that know about her crazy streams are people that think she is a true and honest
victim.
No. 2498048
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>>2497624She's on Patreon and currently works in Laika Studios I believe after Pixar lay offs. She calls herself "queer and poly" but would only ever talk about scrotes on her Celesse channel
https://www.patreon.com/c/littlelist/posts No. 2498107
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I understand what Juby's going through with Genice. I had a friend who stole my designs all the time. I can remember three occasions and she admitted to one and said the other two were coincidences.
But I also kicked that bitch to the curve. Woman-up you fucking loser. Callout post wasn't fucking necessary. Stop spilling your to-do list to anyone who steals from you ONCE. Move the fuck on. Nutjob.
Picrel uses a similar colorscheme to what she was bitching about in her first issue.
No. 2498119
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40k likes on picrel, nature is healing
No. 2498130
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>>2497846OH MY GOD ITS HAPPENINGGGG
I wonder why she chose to post this now out of all times though? She’s been pretty quiet lately and her posting about her streams don’t seem anything out of the ordinary, like she isn’t saying “come join my stream while I rant” etc, it’s more like “streaming with [friend] come join!”
I guess she was busy writing the doc kek. Can’t wait to read it
No. 2498139
>>2498130She probably posted it because of Genice's success with her shop. Juby seethed when Genice was at Kawaii Kon so I'm betting this
triggered her
>>2497861 No. 2498177
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seen on genice’s latest tweet….it would be funny if she continued to ignore all of juby’s spazzing and kept posting normally kek
No. 2498187
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>>2497624shes on patreon under LITTLELIST, that being said she's trying to get some of her loli art taken down picrel.
No. 2498202
>>2498177That would probably be the best way to deal with it. If she talks about it, she would just bring more attention to the callout. Plus stonewalling Juby would make her seethe harder kek
>>2498193They're both weird but I think Genice is less crazy solely for the fact that she isn't sperging like Juby. Juby has been fixated on this dumb demon oc drama for over half a year now. Meanwhile, Genice has moved on with her life and afaik, hasn't posted anything publicly about Eden's Gate
No. 2498280
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This is actually so scary and disturbing…religious psychosis is real
Yes both juby and genice are batshit insane, but I can understand why juby has been sperging out like that for the past few months. If someone like genice did that to me I’d feel sick, and of course juby isn’t the most sane person ever, so you get this car wreck.
I feel that we were wrong about juby kek, people kept saying she had no real evidence which is why she looked crazy to us, but she did in fact have everything in a little google doc getting ready to show the receipts. Sorry juby our based cow for ever doubting you!
This shows how being silent like genice is the best course of action, since if you do nothing, no one will know how crazy you actually are kek. And I’m not even done reading the doc juby posted yet, I just got to the manifesto part, but I’m convinced already
No. 2498300
>>2498280naw man two things can be true at once – genice can have her issues and juby can be batshit insane. there's history and evidence of juby doing creepy
abusive shit to others
No. 2498316
>>2498300>juby doing creepy abusive shit to othersThat’s true. I think they’re both crazy but since juby tends to be more vocal and public about it, people may tend to think that she’s the only crazy one, while genice is “smarter” in the way that she tries to keep every drama she encounters as private from public eyes.
So I would’ve never thought that genice was a different kind of batshit crazy if juby hadn’t shared the discord screenshots and that insane manifesto. It’s clear that she did indeed be manipulative, and she knew that she was stealing from juby and that it was wrong since she admitted to it several times, but kept doing it anyway.
The part where she tried to trap juby into publishing Eden’s gate by asking her if she wanted to be included as credits in the book or not was pretty telling kek, either option would still lead to her publishing it
>>2498307Means that the original poster deleted their tweet.
>>2498188> Kek I don’t use Twitter but has Genice labeled Juby’s comments as spam?Nah people can’t automatically block or mark certain words as spam, even if it’s listed under their mute list. What happened was twitter’s filtering system often filters random tweets as spam, this could happen because they used some potentially offensive language etc
No. 2498332
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KEKKKKKK even someone called juby out a bit on her callout post
No. 2498344
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>>2498277There are 83 (84 including a deleted one) drawings archived on a booru that I won't name or link to directly in case someone wants to start taking screenshots and archiving them all. Use base64 to decode the following link.
>aHR0cHM6Ly9ib29ydS5hbGx0aGVmYWxsZW4ubW9lL3Bvc3RzP3RhZ3M9bWlsa3NjdW0mej0x No. 2498373
>>2498342You mean literally or in terms of talent? I don’t keep tabs on this but a few threads ago I thought someone wrote they lived in the same country or had the same origin country (SEA) and bonded over that. I assumed they met irl too.
>>2498311Good point. Sounds like Juby waited hero worship since they’re around 10 years age difference - another anon said Juby is 40 now and Genice is around 30. But starting out at 18 and a 28 year mentors you? I can see why there was a falling out when Genice wanted to write her own work but Juby couldn’t cope with losing her sycophant.
>>2498356Sugar drew underage porn just like that Chinese Laika hire, the only difference is she doesn’t have her own show.
No. 2498402
>>2497846>after much deliberation>so she can't obfuscate the truth>implying she's doing this as a "preemptive measure" regardless of Genice not reactingKEK, she finally got tired of waiting and threw away the whole "I'm waiting for Genice to try to pull any more of her nasty tricks" "omg guyzzzzz I totally don't wanna do this I really hate having to do this but I just know Genice is gonna force me to do it" "If Genice says anything even the tiniest thing she will feel my revenge" act when she realized Genice wasn't gonna react at all.
I'm not gonna read all that right now, does the doc give an excuse for her posting the call out now (like how when she specified Genice's name on bluesky her excuse was that Genice had tried to defend herself to a mutual acquaintance) or is she just acting like she didn't spend multiple months screeching out those ultimatums?
No. 2498441
>>2498373>another anon said Juby is 40 now and Genice is around 30Juby is 36 years old, she was born on December 11, 1988.
Genice is 27 years old, she was born on January 9, 1998.
No. 2498445
>>2497846Fucking FINALLY. After skimming through a bit holy shit Genice might actually be insane too.
>>2498311This is part of the reason why I'm not too sympathetic towards Juby because it still sounds like she practically handed over her ideas by mentoring and being a consultant. At the same time I can't fully blame her for crashing out at the weirdass religious psychosis, seriously.
No. 2498446
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>>2497936>>2498402>>2498289>>2498280>>2498227Genice is clearly having a psychotic break. Forget religious psychosis, this just straight up seems like a schizo's first psychotic episode. She's like 27/28 so she's still in the window where schizophrenia starts to appear for young adults. Juby's probably not aware that Genice needs to go to an inpatient facility stat since she's got mental issues of her own by the way she annotated the manifesto shit as if Genice had written her some
toxic Twitter rant and not 10 pages of schizophrenic delusions. If someone wrote a manifesto with that much focus on me as a person I'd be freaked the fuck out.
No. 2498453
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I'm going through genice's old tweets and damn, now everything makes a little more sense.
No. 2498510
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>>2498332Another one, this person is a mutual of hers this time
No. 2498558
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>>2498510Also made a subtweet about the situation and went back to gooning to transformers porn
No. 2498565
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>>2498558Kek seems like an obnoxious self righteous twat, you could say no one needs to see that online for basically anything and everything. Let juby sperg it up and cause psycho on psycho drama, it’s her account so she can do whatever she wants
No. 2498581
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>>2498558how noble of you to remind us that
No. 2498743
>>2498277>>2498344Here is a larger archive:
aHR0cHM6Ly9rZW1vbm8uc3UvZmFuYm94L3VzZXIvNTM2NzMxNzQvcG9zdC80MDY4MjQw
No. 2498980
>>2498641Why didn't she just type the name of the actress? There are enough people on this site that go nuts over fictional characters being sexualized as if it is
just as bad as art if existing people. Fortunately, I was not going to invest my time in exploring the art mentioned in
>>2498344 , as I value my sanity.
>>2498854Horrible. She's had several actors over the years, they might all be underaged.
No. 2499040
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Genice just posted this on bluesky and twitter. Guess she doesn't give a fuck about the callout kek
No. 2499080
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>>2499051She was very professional in handling the racism allegations and offered a refund/replacement for customers that ordered the faulty charms. It still makes me kek that qrts in juby's callout post still seethe about the racism shit when genice went out of her way to correct her mistakes and refund orders when she was told it was wrong, theres no redeeming yourself to these tards
No. 2499083
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theyre beating her ass in the qrts kekkkkkk
No. 2499098
File: 1745526627889.jpg (Spoiler Image,89.12 KB, 987x625, 21645617415161561.jpg)
>>2498344presuming this image is a self insert/sona shes definitely an auto pedo what the fuck
No. 2499101
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>>2499098samefag
>been thinking of making a toddler rigBARF
No. 2499127
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>>2499098It's probably her self insert, it looks similar to picrel
No. 2499216
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>>2498344>>2498048Does anyone have any link/archived version of Koko's storyboarding work? I was under the impression storyboard artists had a more solid grasp on drawing….i have a friend who's trying to get into the industry but keeps believing she must have this Da Vinci level of mastery. If McPedo Chou got a job on mf Pixar then it cant be that hard after all
No. 2499219
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>>2494614Took an hour of digging through the hellish ic 'chives so I hope this is what you're looking for nonnitaaHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZpbGUvM3hGQ3hiU1ojWDREQVlTVktKZU9vNjViajRwZUZxREp4RXV4YXhObXgya2Z2NGhONjhMTQ==
No. 2499224
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>>2499112YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT THIS INSTANT
No. 2499225
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>>2499216You don't need to be amazing at art to do this stage of storyboarding, you just have to be at least decent at composition, conveying readable movement and perspective. If your friend is wanting to do more polished storyboarding or get into visual development she absolutely needs to be good at art.
No. 2499241
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>>2499219Omg anon that's it!
I thought i was never going to get it because i only came across the head studies one
genuinely thank you so much nonnita!!!
No. 2499245
>>2499040BASED holy crap, she really is gonna continue ignoring her KEK
i really hope she keeps this up forever and never acknowledges juby, imagine how much of a melty this would cause her. did all that time and effort creating this callout only for genice to still not give her any attention KEK
No. 2499312
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>>2499040I can't wait for her livestream it's going to be glorious. her callout didn't go viral, the most liked qrt is telling her to take it down and genice is posting like nothing even happened kekk
No. 2499316
>>2499312Assuming she will even have a livestream. (she probably will) This will be the livestream of all time to attend for me kek
Most exciting thing of 2025.
No. 2499372
>>2497846people on juby's post worried that genice is having a mental health episode right now… does juby never make it clear this shit happened 6 months ago
can confirm genice is doing fine and just wants to move on from this
toxic freindship
No. 2499497
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Such a shame V1V404 draws obvious sfw lolicon and lolicon pandering art because she has such a nice grasp on form and colour (not so much her recent stuff which is all muddy)
>>2499488
No pic attached but I'm assuming you're talking about Clinical Trials which, yes, that's her she didn't even try to hide. The twitter zoomers who called her out have long forgotten about her so no one is kicking a fuss.
No. 2499534
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>>2499312>got ratioed by someone who was flagged as spamKEK How embarrassing
No. 2499615
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>>2499422Imo it should've never gotten to this point in the first place. Juby should've acted like an adult and either let it go or cut Genice out. Genice is dumb as fuck for continuing to take heavy inspiration from her after the first crashout but I can understand why she wrote that manifesto later when "sorry, I must've done it subconsciously" gets you picrel. Someone a decade older than her was hounding her like this for weeks over a literal non-issue.
>but if she never posted the callout, genice probably would’ve continued to release edensgarden which is plagiarized work, and probably for profit tooThe design and vague story elements she took aren't enough to make it plagiarism. Not to mention that in her manifesto she says at the end that she won't do Edensgate anymore (or that she'll have to redo it fully if she tried it again) and that Juby can have her thing. There was no need to release all this. Juby's just mad it happened at all and venting on her stream wasn't enough.
No. 2499678
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I am trying to get into painting backgrounds and i am struggling a lot jumping from value studies to actual original pieces. I specially struggle a lot adding details and making the piece go from random color blobs to something that looks more finished. Foliage is such a pain in the arse to draw.
No. 2499700
>>2499672I only get tired of it, because of how obnoxious people can get. But I'm not going to change my stance on disliking it just because some people are annoying about it. I don't entirely agree with the "AI art is soulless" babble, as I don't find that to be the primary issue or case with it. It's more about AI art and capitalism.
>Even if art would become a niche thing then so what? None of us need a billion followers/clients to survive on art, all you really need is a few passionate fans and we're all clearly very passionate about art. And even if it's not a full-time job or anything, it being free…Maybe I would be okay with this if the quality of life didn't feel like it was getting worse. I just can't have this acceptive attitude towards creative jobs or income from it potentially becoming limited. The masses don't care about whether art is AI or not either, as long as it's "passable", so the protections towards artists will be limited to non-existent.
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>>2499534>>2499312>>2499358the entire thing is backfiring on her badly KEK
No. 2499816
>>2499615Sure it’s not plagiarism but it’s obviously copied and if someone who had been my friend for years start copying a personal project of mine which she also had exclusive access to and eventually release a story like that for profit, it wouldn’t feel good. Genice admitted that she regularly copies from other artists including her mutuals, and what she did to juby’s project awc was too far for the usual “you inherently copy traits from arts you like all the time and that’s ok”, so I think a callout post was probably warranted, I’ve seen callout posts from chinese artists for less to be fair. And juby told her to stop many times and she tried to keep it offline, so i think genice kinda dragged her down with her by releasing that mentally ill manifesto because if it weren’t for that I’d think more people would side with juby kek.
But without the manifesto, her callout would probably be a whole lot weaker I guess? Because it would just look like your typical friendship fallout drama due to copying and overstepping boundaries. That would still be a good reference for if genice ever publishes edensgate, like a “hey this project has been heavily copied by my project despite many calls to stop, so please don’t support it, also she is a serial copier so if you’re mutuals with her watch your back, your oc and projects could be next” type of thing
No. 2499850
>>2499816>so I think a callout post was probably warranted, I’ve seen callout posts from chinese artists for less to be fair. Are you serious? Just because other people behave like insane dramamongerers online this makes Juby's schizophrenic 40 page callout post over some colors and a pair of wings seem normal and even warranted to you? Everybody agrees that it doesn't feel good to be stolen from by a friend but the proper way to deal with this was to kick that untrustworthy bitch to the curb and move on with your life. Juby instead has been malding daily for half a year. You should listen to her 7 hour stream where she airs Genice's entire dirty laundry and says things like her parents don't deserve such a shit daughter.
>And juby told her to stop many times and she tried to keep it offlineBaiting Genice for months by vagueposting on her twitter bluesky and making a combined 20+ hour twitch stream where she rails on her incessantly doesn't feel like keeping it offline to me.
No. 2499892
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>>2499760>nearly 40 Holy shit no way I thought juby was in her early 30s also kekkk it went the way we predicted it would
No. 2499893
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Someone save this woman from herself already
No. 2499894
>>2499860This shit happened to me in my personal life, I was spiraling so fucking hard after literal years of taking shit and trying to be a "good person" about it, but I snapped when I got SA'd and became pretty
toxic for a while. A bpdchan friend of mine decided to collect receipts of me spiraling under an alias and sent them to everyone I knew and I lost all of my friends. I was acting kind of fucked to be fair, but also to be fair to me, when I was forced out of that social group and met new people, they treated me way better and I mysteriously slowly began to stop displaying those
toxic behaviors. So seeing genice's clear mental illness being noted by people and thinking Juby is kind of an unempathetic sociopath herself brings me great secondhand catharsis. Sometimes, people just aren't really as bad as your
victim complex wants you to think.
No. 2499898
>>2499873>It wasn’t just this but story beats and structure as well as character personalities and goalsThat's what she says, on that point she hasn't shown any proof of plagiarism other than 2 drawings (and the "stolen tweet"). Genice "admitting" to that is meaningless without proof since Juby by her own admission coached and mentored her on her story. For all we know Juby is the one who could have told Genice to go with the supposed story beats, personalities and goals that she now accuses her of stealing from her. And what Juby says doesn't seem very trustworthy to me, she is obviously deeply mentally ill. Her entire outlook on this situation is "psychopathic narcissistic abuse" of which she is the poor widdle
victim.
>Releasing edensgate But Genice hasn't, that's the point. And in her manifesto from six months ago she even tells Juby that she won't release it anymore. Why is she still losing her shit? If Genice never releases this thing (or releases it heavily modified) this is literally a fictitious issue.
No. 2499912
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Do you think araki would ever spiral on twitter about someone stealing his donut steel OCs on twitter for their own story
No. 2499919
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>>2499912I mean, he hasn't yet. Probably because your picrel's artist change the characters just enough? Then again, bro makes so much money he probably can't see them kek
Some of my favorite designs are clearly ripped from him. Picrel is ripped from Kakyoin.
No. 2499929
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>>2499893>28k likesIt’s over, she’s gonna keep chasing the dopamine of easy likes for coom art.
>>2499897Ngl, even in her tif phase you can kinda see her heading this direction with how often she drew her tif self-insert like a slutty bimbo “femboy”
>>2499912Did he even care when Clamp did it?
No. 2499944
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>>2499497What is your favorite thing about V1V404 artwork? Personally I think the way she makes the anime characters have 3d shading is unique, kind of like an anime figurine,and not what a lot of people do.
No. 2499988
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Why do so many early 90s millennial moids have this art style? What is the origin point? It just screams "I grew up with megaman and pokemon and became an adult jerking off to porn of the underage characters while having lukewarm contrarian opinions on internet forums and deviantart while having a specific uninterested nerdy female artist I was obsessed with, then I may or may not have become a tranny 2018".
No. 2500008
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does anyone remember redkatherinee from tumblr? she got harassed offline years ago for being a terf, is she anywhere now?
No. 2500012
>>2499898At the core of this issue is the fact that Juby is 10 years older than Genice and this friendship started from a position of mentor/older sister/idol as a 29 year old to a 19 year old, this friendship was never on equal ground. Juby is a mentally ill retard or a narcissistic abuser if she can't see the significance of this dynamic for herself. Genice obviously looked up to Juby and to have your idol accuse you of being evil just for being inspired by them must have fucked her up. Juby seems to be aware of Genice's personal history
>>2498453 growing up in a conservative Chinese church, and used that against her. Genice's manifesto doesn't even come across as a mentally ill schizo ramble, it looks like a deeply religious defense from her in a reaction to Juby's goading. I'm glad twitter isn't on Juby's side either.
No. 2500031
>>2500021yeah it seriously bothers me that people try to dismiss genice as '25 year old minor' – the point isn't that she's 25, it's that juby predated on her when she was 19 and basically creatively groomed her and then pulled a hell of a lot of spiritual abuse on her.
it also is annoying me how people take juby's accusations for copying as a fact because wtf, to me everything genice did with her 'designs' is just typical inspirations. juby doesn't own the concept of ribbon wings (it's a VERY common anime/video game trope) nor does juby own the red/black color palette (also a common anime/video game grope) and any claims that genice cribbed her personal project is suspect because a) there's no personal project released to compare, and b) genice already agreed SHE WON'T RELEASE IT in its current form without a lot of revising
juby supposedly mentored/coached genice on her project so she'd have to prove that genice listening to her input somehow means plagiarizing and I have NO idea how someone can pull that off
even if genice did maliciously copy juby's oc's…. girl, fucking grow up and move on, character designs look similar sometimes and the concept of color theory exists to be used by everyone.
juby is a textbook narcissistic abuser, I hope the pushback builds
No. 2500080
>>2500062>>2500065Dont be obtuse, acknowledging the life experience/maturity gap in someone who just turned into an adult is not the same as equating them to a child.
While I agree Juby shouldn't be treated as some groomer nonce, Juby is definitely painting Genice as some irredeemable psycho sociopath that manipulated her, a disabled poor widdle
victim, when she too is a grown ass adult who should've cut Genice off the moment she started doing "plagiarism" and only take public action should Genice actually relased her project which she didnt and implied to have cancelled in her manifesto
No. 2500087
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>>2500008I'd also like to know what happened to her. I remember that along with her, another artist named poehav-shy was also kicked out for supporting her.
No. 2500089
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>>2499080Yikes, I'm glad she changed that design. The character does have ridiculous lips but the color she chose for them was a mistake. It makes me wonder if she could have avoided all this if she had someone to look over the designs before going through the manufacturing process.
No. 2500100
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>At VanCAF 2016 she introduced herself to me. She was 19, I was 28.
This is something that has been bothering me for a bit.
No. 2500198
>>2500049>>2500052Why does this matter? Aren't Asian people supposed to smart? There is nothing that YouTube university can't teach you if youre wiling enough. I'd even argue that my upbringing was even more strict and conservative than any American family. Due to how religious my family is I constantly get told that I've grown up in a cult environment and that my parents were
abusive for not letting me have boyfriends while in school or for monitoring what i wore. Yet still, at 16 asking mommy and daddy for money or for rides got old super fast so I decided to chase my own independence.
>>2500054Like I said, just because you realise things slower that doesn't mean it's the case for everyone else. At 14-15 I was aware of that fact that I had an undiagnosed mental illness so I made decisions in my life that I knew I'd be able to handle since I can't function like most people. I get that with wisdom comes age but acting like you're barely above vegetable at 19 is beyond infantilising. It's the treating us like we're 5 that's the issue.
>>2500062Literally. It's so annoying.
>>2500072Ik plenty of Asian people that know how to handle themselves. I'm not American and still live with my parents so idek what your point is really.
>>2500078Being forced to mature faster because of a crappy life is not the same as a 19 year old who has responsibilities and is legally an adult. We are not prepubescent children.
>>2500085Your experience isn't universal
No. 2500205
>>2500096any anon who goes back there knowing they have loli pedo moids like
>>2488829 as jannies deserves to be called a pickme
No. 2500280
>>2499816>And juby told her to stop many times and she tried to keep it offlineBut she didn't try to keep it offline. I'm one of the anons that have been keeping up with her streams. I archived most of her streams from late December to late March (I think I might be missing one or two) and of the 17 streams I downloaded, she ranted about Genice in most of them. Her rants go from being 10-20 minutes long to spanning literal hours. In those rants, she constantly name drops Genice and calls her soulless, cancer, a parasite, not a real christian, says she feels bad for Genice's family for having such an awful daughter (mind you, Juby has met Genice's family on multiple occasions), etc. and basically implies she thinks Genice is going to go to hell because she stole from Juby. Like the other anon said, she's also been vagueposting about Genice on twitter and instagram for over half a year now. Juby has also mentioned that she's literally trying to get Genice blacklisted in the industry by telling everyone she knows about what Genice did
>>>/ot/2330961 . She's been a mentor/friends with Genice for almost a decade, and she's doing all of this because she thinks Genice stole three things from her. There's a difference between plagiarism and being inspired. Artists "steal" from each other all the time, i.e. they take elements they like and make them their own. From what I've seen in Juby's own callout post, Genice falls in the latter category. As sanctimonious as she likes to be, I bet if you go through Juby's own work with a fine comb, you'll find elements she lifted from other sources.
No. 2500288
>>2500280not to cowtip but someone should compile a compilation of juby calling genice a narcissistic, parasitic, soulless, cancerous, piece of shit etc etc she definetly thinks she can get away with it because its streamed content (though shes stupid enough to keep her recent streams up in which anyone can save)
on the topic, it reminds me that Juby also had contracts with big industries like marvel but ended up leaving in bad terms because she aired out her grievances and openly slandered marvel in her twitter call out post (sounds familiar?) it seems like she had a built up vendetta because Genice landed a job at
trigger and still maintains a good connection + sells merch of the ip she worked for to this day.
No. 2500293
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wait until op finds out juby has been saying 'nigga' on her twitter account and hasn't apologized for it kek she just recently deleted all of them except the one where shes paraphrasing her husband
No. 2500301
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all this chimping out about the demon oc's colour palette + wings being plagiarism when juby's oc literally looks like a knock off of starcanary's ocs
No. 2500304
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>>2500302No she's very much asian and she initially bonded with genice because theyre both asian diaspora, its her husband thats black
No. 2500305
>>2500286>>2500288I've considered making a compilation of Juby's rants and uploading it somewhere private (maybe to catbox?) but it would take sooo long. I have 40 GB of footage to sift through. The other issue is that she is very repetitive and just repeats herself over and over again across multiple streams. I haven't watched/archived any of her recent streams because she's just so boring to listen to after a while.
>>2500293Kek I think I remember her getting called out for that and her excuse was that her husband was black
>>2500302No Juby is Korean and she moved to Canada
No. 2500307
File: 1745612689981.jpg (164.82 KB, 750x822, lol.JPG)
>>2500302>isn't juby black thoAbsolutely not kek
No. 2500312
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>>2500307>>2500293not to encourage cowtipping but the urge is there….. if only you knew how bad things were
No. 2500363
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>>2499080This isn't even a black caricature, it's a stylistic choice seen in anime. It's usually an "ugly" physical trait put on male characters, but it has nothing to do with being black. Of course sanctimonious twitter tards had to make it about race. She apologized and people like this
>>2500312 are still calling her racist. You can never win.
No. 2500368
>>2500363yeah it's a physical characteristic often associated with japanese fishermen from being out in the sun/salt air all day, it makes the lips puff out as though pulled by a vacuum. it tends to represent honest hard-working but unrefined men. think farmer yokels from the south in western media.
it gets unfairly attributed to black racist caricatures when it's a well established thing in japanese history/culture
No. 2500395
File: 1745618632455.jpg (Spoiler Image,98.03 KB, 607x442, jimcrow_chickenwatermelongame-…)
>>2500368Samefag as
>>2500388 but people don't pull this out of their ass. Features drawn in this way have a very clear history of BEING made with racist intent. If anything, it is one of those cultural norms that should have been researched and removed than have people double down on.
Picrel is one of the racist caricatures from the jim crowe era, provided purely for backing up that perspective of its offensive nature. If it were kept to Japan in Japanese, it'd be less of an issue. Once the west happens upon it, then I think the reaction has a considerable backlash.
No. 2500406
Normie artists are horrid at writting female characters, but in a subtle way that doesnt allow you to rightfully criticize them for not giving a fuck, it sucks. The revolting trend of writting women as perfect flawless gorlbosses has fortunately passed, but was hastily replaced with a new kind of cancer, because now female characters are "messy" and "toxic" and evil and whatnot, but still not in a particularly meaningful or interesting way, you can see them get pushed to the side by their own creator. If theyre straight they get reduced to being their boyfriends hot adorned wife, and if theyre lesbians somehow even less personality and humanity is allowed to them, they get called shit like 'toxic yuri', basically reducing the said character and her girlfriend to one amalgamination rather than separate conscious players. God the stench, I can fucking smell it.
No. 2500414
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Kekk
No. 2500418
>>2500395I'm not really a fan of localized fanart and merchandise tbh, if you like something as an overseas product, then changing it to fit your locale seems a bit off? Something about it makes it feel cheap, like a knock off.
I'd rather get a Japanese Tokyo Revengers figurine with the manji included than one without, basically. Even if its a jacket, I just wouldn't wear it outside. Then again, if it's the majority then it's the majority, it's not something I'd be angry at somebody for changing when given backlash, I just wouldn't buy it.
No. 2500435
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>>2500198Wow, you did not need to tell us you were 19 because you sound young. I'm not even that much older than you but one can tell you have not left your childhood egocentrism behind quite yet.
>>2499944Like I said, I really enjoy her colour work and I also really like how she mixes plastic rendering with more "harsh" or grimy texturing. It's a nice contrast.
>>2499672I hate most AI image debates because oftentimes neither party has an understanding of the other, AIfags/doomsayers don't understand art (you can tell because they always bring up the banana on the wall installation or canvases painted one colour in the modernist/abstract style) and many artists don't understand AI. And because neither is knowledgable about the other (and sometimes not knowledgable about their own stance so they make up bullshit talking points), they're not really debates they're just talking at each other thinking the other is a fuckwit. It's tiring and while I do not like genAI, I just do not need to relive the exact same argument over and over.
>>2500288>>2500305I'd be so happy if this ever ends up happening.
>>2500414This person is probably retarded just based off the artstyle and character design alone but to be fair, someone who follows you back and likes your posts and barely ever talks to you is an acquaintance at absolute most. Treating mutuals like friends just on the basis of you being mutuals and nothing else is mega retarded and unsocialised behaviour.
No. 2500452
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>>2500293>>2500312I always love when big artists are called out and some random person with a grudge reveals themselves. Imagine being in your late 20s and drawing like this.
No. 2500633
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I'm so fucking salty about the artists that Capcom hired for the megaman comics. These people do shit that is either insanely bad or just short of acceptable, that I feel like we've been cheated out of something good. The worst part is that the things I want to complain about (specifically on this cover) are such non-issues to the mindless moid fanbase. Anime huffers don't seem to care when something is anatomically fucking awful, so me complaining about it anywhere makes me seem super shallow. But even upon announcement, everyone in the artist side of the community had mentioned "why didn't Capcom just hire literally one of the well-established fanartists???" I could name drop at least 4 other artists they could've hired but this mystery literal who (likely has established works in places I don't care to look) was hired instead and now everyone is going to accept his garbage and the WONDERFUL Iyan Flynn's writing as canon. I'll never be able to escape from it, and I know that if he does some bullfuckery like make Ciel and Leviathan a lesbian, it's going to fuck the balance of focus from touching moments of the series to this slop.
I'm so salty I'm so salty I'm so salty. Why is the anatomy horseshit I'm so salty I'm so salty
No. 2500664
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>>2500633It really is hard being a megaman fan these days I swear. The art is so wonky and ugly. Seeing Ian Flynn on the cover made it worse for me. All of the art is pretty underwhelming and I only found one that looks pretty similar to MMZ art style but that's not really good enough. Also what the hell is this? I think Capcom hates us.
No. 2500667
>>2500662oh you really did try lol
hmmm maybe copying a pic you really find interesting without taking it as serious as a study, or drawing shapes and lines with random colors even if the lines arent to good or straight, personally i like to do those and 2 minute figure drawings but idk if those would help you. Hope other anons have some more recommendations
No. 2500672
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>>2500664Samefag but the comparison just makes me more upset. I really love the MMZ/MMZX art style. What were they thinking here?
No. 2501003
>>2500633The use of the mirroring tool on the character in front is offensive for a paid, professional cover.
Being a fan of an older/niche-ish franchise is hard because they put out materials but it looks like this
No. 2501058
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>>2501006nta The art is actually by Toru Nakyama in that instance (also a coomer and lolicon). Yabe makoto made picrel
No. 2501257
>>2501239It feels desperate. Memes are something fans make, if the creator is churning out memes and shit like that it feels like they're the whole fandom because nobody else cares about their work.
>>2500630It can help to do one or two simple exercises a day and let your creativity rest while you continue to hone your skills. Now's the time to do the really boring stuff like drawing lines on top of each other, drawing circles, and drawing cubes. Every few days you can do something 'exciting' like a single line drawing of a random artwork, shading studies, or forced perspective studies. Eventually your art block will go away, but your skills will have improved a whole lot.
No. 2501293
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>>2501211This confirms my theory that this guy wants to troon out but is self aware that he's too ugly to ''pass''. Imagine wanting to be an animu catgirl and god giving you this giga man jaw and cartoony looking appearance. This guy looks a begginer concept artist first attempt at designing a villian CEO. He legit looks so much like something from hotel transilvania. What a cursed appearance. It's also ironic he made a whole short criticizing anime moe escapism when he's only know for being a Watanabe Akio copycat. He's such a tryhard.
No. 2501415
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>>2501293Massive agp vibes. He has this weird "girlsona" Claire
No. 2501485
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>pantsu_ripper is now posting his own (tranny?) nudes on his nsfw twitter acc
Holy shit why why why why why?
How does one go from picrel (objectively tasteful/charming) to being a huge degenerate who almost exclusively draws sloppy fotm porn and trooning out in less than 10 years? males are broken to the core
No. 2501519
File: 1745715582269.png (Spoiler Image,2.89 MB, 2193x1272, ahahah ohh my goooood.png)
>>2501493ayrt, I saw your? previous post so I made this for posterity
No. 2501538
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>>2501519>moid making Tsukumizu and Yume Nikki fanartWhat a shame but it was a 50/50 shot that this was bound to happen just based off those two factors.
>>2501211There's nothing to fucking say about it. It's lame and boring and overly pretentious, there's nothing to dissect that hasn't already been said about his other work.
No. 2501739
>>2501293>he made a whole short criticizing anime moe escapismit didn't read as criticism to me. more like sympathy towards the poor transwahmen who
have to watch lolicon anime to cope with their lost girlhood and feelings of dysphoria
No. 2501743
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>>2501485>>2501519TRANNY NUDES WARNING. UNSPOILER AT TOUR OWN RISKholy shit kek the 5 o'clock shadow. is his pickme landwhale ewhore gf still with him? i remember seeing his art all over my feed because my weeb friends kept repostinf his autism roller gimmick scribbles. good to know he's now even more statistically likely to kill himself. good riddance
No. 2501745
>>2501737Back when I used it 1-2 years ago, it was all of that plus AI doom posting mixed in with poorly drawn hentai
>>2501743…Is it really necessary to post tranny nudes in the art thread of all places?
No. 2501816
>>2501697I haven't watched the full vid because I find these annoying, but from the bit I listened she does pronounce Chiikawa right though.
(Unless you meant the accent/strong syllable/whatever is it called in English, but on that it can be either CHIIkawa, chiiKAwa or chiikaWA as in JP it depends on the phrase's intonation and not each word individually)
No. 2501823
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She's still fucking going holy kek
No. 2501836
>>2501822I don't care about retarded weeb nitpicks but PumpkinGentleman was still LARPing the whole time. Yes she did grow up in Japan but she also moved fairly young and you can forget a lot of a language within ~10 years, especially if you only know a child's level of it. Her stroke order was bad, her Japanese was bad and she was pretending to have just moved in the past two or so years and made up entire retarded stories about her experiences.
If she came from China or Indonesia or Thailand or whatever initally I'd still have the same opinion so it's not about "muh glorious nippon!!" I get that she's probably insecure about it but like, there's no reason she couldn't have actually relearned the language besides laziness and impatience. The whole LARP was unnecessary and only served to bite her in the ass.
No. 2501860
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>>2501823>I can no longer stay a passive victim of my circumstances. I realized in order to be free and and be able to live again, I need to be there for myself in ways I hadn'tShe is such a narcissist holy kek. Coping with the drama by drawing her epic self-insert power fantasy
No. 2501863
File: 1745756258055.jpg (Spoiler Image,85.15 KB, 1066x841, kill it with fire.jpg)
>>2501531He retweets trapshit/femboy porn sometimes. He retweets a lot of gross porn
>>2501519Disappointed but not surprised, clearly trooned out because of agp
No. 2502014
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Art salt not about any specific artist but the way people love to draw Vi from Arcane with a weird happy trail drives me crazy.
No. 2502085
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>>2501697>Jaidenomfg I hate her shit so much. She's the epidemy of unfunny tumblr jokes and over-reacting over mundane shit to the point where it ruins the thing you like.
The only nice thing I can say about her is that she put her foot on the ground and created boundaries when people were drawing nsfw of her cartoon avatar and didn't go the pick-me route of encouraging it.
No. 2502545
sorry for the mean and stupid rant
>usually don't automatically follow back every artist who follows me, and only follow people whose art i actually like >but recently thought that i needed more art mutuals in general so i started to follow back artists who were following me that have a cute enough style and seemed social/active with other artists>decide to follow back this one artist, looked through her media tab a bit & her art seems cute so i followed her and like her latest art post to show some appreciation >her tweets show up a lot on my tl as she tweets often>most of the images she posts isn't even art at all but irl photo dumps, many selfies included >i wanted to like her posts often as i do with my art mutuals to show support but it feels awkward now because if i liked her art post but didn't like her irl photos, it would mean that i scrolled past her selfies >so i end up not liking her posts at all, including her art posts to be "safe">her tweets get on average 2 likes anyway so my likes would be very obvious>can't break mutual because i'm a pussy god damn it that's another one i regret following back. i'm already in a few mutual followings that i regret (and i wish i had skinny following ratios like some big accounts) and i must've not scrolled through her media tab too much, because i swear she didn't post this many irl photos before i followed her.
i would hate to post a selfie and no one/none of my mutuals like it, but then later they all like an art post, that would be so awkward and damage my self esteem kek. it's just annoying how the time where i thought i'd try to be more social and create more art mutuals i get some random fucking kid with mid art who i have to ignore now because i'm autistic when it comes to being conscious about my "like patterns" because i pay close attention to which mutuals regularly like my posts.
and honestly i still don't reply or talk to my mutuals anyway even if i probably should, because i hate looking desperate and feel embarrassed at the thought of other people seeing my replies. the recent drama this tweet
>>2500414 caused also doesn't help, there were people in the quotes saying that they didn't see mutuals as automatic friends and just acquaintances. so what if i tried to be friendly with a mutual but they'd just be weirded out? best i can hope for is them replying to my art first. how do nonas manage to create and maintain active friendships with your art mutuals?
No. 2502573
>>2502545I think you're overthinking it wrt liking the art VS not liking the selfies; you're an artist, so naturally you would be more interested in your mutual's art posts! I wouldn't even take it personally as an artist, honestly. If that person takes issue with you not liking their selfies then that's completely on them. I get the empathy about being insecure in that situation, but I think this is a thing everyone has to learn to cope with.
I try to just put myself out there and interact with mutuals, and if they don't respond or seem weirded out, then I don't continue interaction. I think it's the same as real life. Rejection is just part of social interaction, and you have to face it in order to have meaningful interactions with people.
You could always try just commenting on your mutuals' art with your genuine thoughts! I know from experience that when someone who follows me suddenly gives me a nice comment out of the blue despite no interactions prior, I find it really nice! Even just a "WOW <3" can mean a lot to some people haha. Though I guess it depends on the person; I try to reply to every single comment I get (unless it's something very strange) because I feel like it encourages more people to talk to you because you're responsive and nice. And in my experience that has worked for me. But I know that some artists also just don't reply to comments.
Anyway, I don't know if that helps much at all but your plight resonated with me as a recovered-overthinker.
No. 2502607
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>>2502573>I get the empathy about being insecure in that situation, but I think this is a thing everyone has to learn to cope with. i completely understand and you're probably right, but i just can't bring myself to do it, i wouldn't want that happening to me so i do the same to others. would rather have people pretend to completely ignore my posts compared to liking my art posts only and ignoring my irl photos, including selfies (not that i'd ever post selfies anyway).
i think this aversion comes from a situation that already actively happens to me, where i would post fanart and it would perform well, but when i post oc art that often has more effort put into it, it barely gets 20 likes. this disproportional difference of likes is sometimes staggering and unnatural when you compare them, so i've decided to stop drawing fanart completely and just let people unfollow and filter itself out so my follower count will match my engagement more accordingly. the way people will ignore all my other art felt so obnoxious and the recent addition of adding view counts to tweets made it more annoying. now i'm more happy with my engagement levels as it feels more genuine, the followers who stayed know what they're in for if that makes sense, i get more regular likes for my original content now.
tbf i'm not really an OC DONUT STEEL type of oc artist that makes ocs with the most overused trends on pinterest/tiktok with obligatory ~inclusive~ traits, i just enjoy the plain old original content side of art like picrel because i'm tired of fandom slop
>You could always try just commenting on your mutuals' art with your genuine thoughts!i would love to, but most of my mutuals are on twitter and it's hard to find everyone on other platforms, where they sometimes don't follow back or just don't have an account on there. it just feels more embarrassing to tweet on twitter for some reason, probably because of the retarded view counter..and i never really talk on my account so it would be kinda unnatural for me to suddenly start even if no one would really care. being an overthinker is hell
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>>2502750He doesnt have the skill to pull off sexy tasteful pinups he just draws pure slop
No. 2502784
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Pains me to see how the years of not practicing anatomy have further diminished the quality of her work.
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>>2502791Same still applies, that was just an example. Kanoeya
>>2502784 does just that and though a lot of anons don't like her work I don't think they'd say it's a waste (she is terribly, terribly burnt out though)
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>>2502819what are you talking about? she always created weird furry shit, this drawing for example is from 2013
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>>2502819Maybe? The beast women have always been a part of her work like this nona
>>2502821 states but she's been ramping up the number of works featuring them and introducing some new designs. It bugs me she keeps drawing their tails on their asses in some of her latest drawings.
No. 2502830
>>2485764Tumblr was so great for art apart from the politics. No obvious times stamps meant that art kept being relevant forever, you could make your blog look cute like a personal website or perfect gallery for free, people loved "collecting" art by rebloging it in a way I don't see on twitter where people just leave a like, tags letting you add secret messages and to sort all your art any way you liked… I never got as much engagement and traction as on tumblr. The downside was the wokest of troonery lurking in every corner and people getting hounded over not rebloging the latest SJW cause. Maybe we should all get back on tumblr and turn it into a
terf site.
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>>2502832sorry if i sound rude but you think so? 2013 again, just check her dA for her old stuff, its much easier to navigate
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>>2487415The bunny girl is just dollar store Midori
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>>2502855The character has no name and is just an archetype of the type of man Kaneoya fancies, a young man implied to be slightly past college age who vaguely resembles a young Paul McCartney who she has an obsession with. These two nonas
>>2502857,
>>2502859 are right on the money when it comes to what the furry women represent. Japanese society still has pretty rigid gender roles where women are expected to be submissive and meek so I always saw the furry women as transgressive female avatars that subvert that. Kaneoya also drew some comics that develop the world these characters live in. Furry women are known to buy the services of human male prostitutes essentially.
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>>2485764>>2502830Tumblr is fine. Just have to get more people on it. A chunk of the old QOL addons have been integrated into the site, and it's not AS dead. They have two site types - a sidebard-esque blog view and an actual decorated blog view.
Picrel is my favorite artist and her blog is absolutely precious.
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>>2502930nta Are you sure about that
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>>2502750ayrt and no i dont think pinups are a waste of time, but its just sad to see him doing low effort pictures like this (unrendered sexy lady standing in the void) when he has (had?) a talent at doing atmospheric environment work. unfortunately even in his old work you can tell how tranny-brained he is, lots of yume nikki, girls frontline, and "edgy hikkineet girl in messy room omg shes just like me, but a girl!" shit
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>>2503154i think i might be talking about one of those custom themes you see in the desktop version
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this isn’t artist salt but more artist existential crisis, does anyone ever think about the world when the sun will turn into a black hole in like a million years and get depressed? and the theorized heat death of the universe too i guess but the black hole thing is a bit more relevant since it directly affects earth more. every art piece, song, movie, tv show, buildings, landscapes, books, comics, websites, all that history being gone and forgotten forever? i love archives and creating collections so it makes me stressed to think about. of course humanity might become extinct long before this happens as there’s so many retarded people in the world, but i do wonder if people somehow make it and continue to technologically advance to real sci-fi levels, like migrating to another solar system, finding out how to prevent stars from dying so no black hole, or teleporting entire planets to a different place so we can keep our whole earth too
normally i can convince myself to not care with the “i’ll be long dead when this happens and life is hard so who cares” attitude but i’m just in one of those mood swings. and also my main goal and purpose in life is to create beautiful art pieces that will be remembered by a lot of people so it’s sad to think about this whole thing, if everything won’t matter in the end.
and some schizo talk but there’s a chance this whole thing could be a simulation kek, and if it is, does the “creator” live in a universe that also has some kind of expiration date? so many questions and things we don’t know yet nonas(off topic)
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>>2503520She has a real issue of overworking whatever medium she's using (looks like watered down gouache or really heavily pigmented watercolour?), I wish she'd stick more with her simplier watercolouring
No. 2503678
>>2503569>Sometimes asking helps produce better products imo but you do you nonnaI ask before starting the art. I make sure I have all the info I need so I don't have to bother them (or waste my own time waiting for their reply) in the middle of working.
>2503627The commission world is full of scam artists everywhere, so I think it's just a given now as a safety measure
Yeah I definitely see why people do it, especially now that ai is so big. For me it was coming from being trusted into being suspected of being a scammer/AI user that offended me. So I don't blame people for asking for proof, it was just an observation in the differences!
>I would kill to work in the professional environment, but I'm too incompetent to make a coherent portfolioI've obviously not seen your art but as you allude to your issue likely isn't incompetence nor skill but that you don't believe in your work. Depending on what field you want your pieces don't have to be perfect, they just need to communicate what's needed.
No. 2503778
>>2503678>it was just an observation in the differences!ayrt Purely out of curiosity though, how do you feel about the shift? Do you prefer professional over commissions? (I really want to pick your brain on this haha)
>Depending on what field you want your pieces don't have to be perfect, they just need to communicate what's needed.Oh! That actually makes more sense. I always thought it had to be extremely polished pieces, else I'd be overlooked.
No. 2503852
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Nonas mgong might dfe everything so if you wanted to save some of her art, do so now. I don’t know if anyone else saw how she called out someone using ai based on her art recently. The aifag didn’t do anything and kept posting, some of their shit got really viral recently. Mgong has been talking about it on her accounts and I’ll be sad if she really does stop posting on twitter, say what you want about her but I’ve never seen a more mesmerizing and immediately recognizable style than hers, she has so many pieces where I’ll just stare out of admiration for minutes every time I come across it in my files. Fucking aifags ruining it for everyone
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>>2503873Nona I probably have more weibo artists saved on my computer than you do and no, I’ve never encountered an artist that’s just like her there. Or anywhere really, aside from the obvious mgong wannabes. She’s not my favorite artist, and her recent artwork isn’t my favorite as I don’t really like the unappealing color schemes she uses, but when she hits, she hits. Her technical skill, specifically coloring is honestly breathtaking sometimes, I even made a folder to organize my favorite pieces of hers just to go back to them from time to time. Her prime was probably 2023 and/or 2024. There’s just something about it that makes it enviable. Imo her best artwork brutally mogs every other artist on the timeline
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i periodically look at what trevor brown's up to because i hate him and hope he dies soon, because he's a japan-fetishizing pedophile, and i finally found a photo of his face. heavily edited but still. here you go. he looks like the exact kind of ugly disheveled fuck i'd imagine. he tries to brag about "young girls" who come to his art shows because they love his art. i feel like he pays them kek. i've seen him complaining when gross men come to see his stuff in exhibits too