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Discuss art and related topics such as:
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon

Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2
>where to find art
https://www.wikiart.org/es
https://artvee.com/
>other useful sites
https://film-grab.com/
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
https://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheel
https://freephotomuscle.com/
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili

Frequently Asked Questions
>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?
Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?
Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?
It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AI
Both the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?
Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?
Look through older artist salts or give context.

>Painting: The Lady of Shalott by John William Waterhouse (1888)

No. 2477099

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nonna i'm deeply jealous of someone in the fandom i'm it. said person joined the fandom way later than me but she gained so much traction in such a short time. her drawing skill isn't even that good either, her anatomy is all fucked up. the subject matters in her art is also not interesting (pretty girls standing in colored backgrounds) but people seem to lap that shit up. the only "good" thing about her art is the color, which she admitted is just filter abuse. she can't even bother to choose her own colors goddammit. i know obsessing about this is stupid but i can't stop thinking about it. what should i do???

No. 2477139

>>2477099
Ideally, ignore her. But otherwise, do you really care about the attention of people with such shit taste? The kind who’ll follow a crappy artist as long as she draws cute girls? Twitter popularity is total bs and there was a time where destinytomoon could easily get 20k(probably still could if she ever came back kek), the bad artists who get popular are just a variation of her but with waifus.

Also, focus on improving your own art, developing any personal projects you have in mind, and growing an audience who appreciates your art and skill. It’ll be slower instead of providing instant social media dopamine, but in the end it’s more satisfying than an audience gained through low-quality waifu art.

No. 2477183

>>2477099
mute her for your own sake

No. 2477243

>>2477099
Skinwalk her. Redraw her posts in ways that are far more interesting (cute girls in front of colored backgrounds? change the angle and make it more dynamic and shift the colors around a pinch). Don't actually do this because you'll instantly be labeled as public enemy number one. But if you're feeling EXTRA petty, then…
Someone did that to me and was basically heralded as a fantastic artist and suffered no consequences. Their art wasn't better than mine by much? They just had a massive userbase. I can't shake them for some reason, and even my own friends send me their art in DMs kek

No. 2477248

Is shading and color theory way easier to learn than anatomy?

No. 2477249

>>2477243
I have a skin walker who decided to draw the same subjects and be on every platform I am. Everywhere I am she is and she decided to make friends with artists I admire. I'm so sick of running into her and talking to her now. I muted her but we're in the same fandom. I don't have the same support system she has. I'm fucking tired.

No. 2477260

How do you build a community of mostly non-artists who will pay you. I'm sick of other artists who are broke troons and genderqueers following me. They're in the same boat just trying to promote and never retweet or support others unless they have clout. everyone says to network but it's such fake bullshit i can never stand it for more than a week.

No. 2477271

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How do you study anatomy without going crazy? My brain is frying and and i keep forgetting the old information that i gained from studies no matter how much I'm practicing

No. 2477303

>>2477249
Oh god. I cannot even imagine having a skin walker at my grown age. I don’t even know what I’d do. That’s always a weird situation especially if they are younger. How would one even avoid this sort of thing?

No. 2477304

>>2477260
You have to draw normie, “marketable” shit. Maybe draw people that look like irl people

No. 2477324

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>>2477260
I'm planning to infiltrate the spiritual people, they have a lot of money. I see them supporting all sorts of stuff. Like there's these two youtubers in my country who go on 3 vaccations a year! and still have money to buy expensive tech. People throw so much money on the spiritual influencers and I noticed people on facebook are interrested in paintings with spiritual themes, angels, abstracts, lots of warm colors and shit like that. If i add some yapping about my paranomal experinces i bet i can make it. Just wish i had the time to start already and not be in debt rn. So i guess try finding a specific community like this that doesn't have troons in it.

No. 2477380

>>2477099
A lot of the time these fandom artists are either constantly posting engagement bait, or they have actually relevant fandom discussions that attract people to follow them. If people enjoy interacting with the artist, they'll interact with their art too, even if it's not as good. So you can keep that in mind.
Besides that, simple colorful drawings look good on the timeline, so people repost those fast without thinking.

If you don't like her posts and art, just mute her. You can't do much about it in the end.

No. 2477399

Finally a good op with the fucking painting's name on it well done. Also nonas who do speedpaints better put a filter or glaze over the video because there have been ai shitter companies ripping whole channels without consent each day I wish death upon these pedo enablers

No. 2477401

what does skinwalking mean? Isnt it normal that artists are inspired by artist they like and when its the same fandom they will draw similar themes

No. 2477408

>>2477324
This is a slippery slope anon. Maybe you start by selling out to spiritual narcs and then in 5 yrs, you're hosting a paid finishing school for middle aged anime troons

No. 2477417

>>2477401
it's one thing to be inspired, but anon is talking about some cases of artists who redraw another artists' pieces one by one, usually even just a day after, copy the way they type, copy the way they do their signature, copy what fandoms they're in, pretend to like what the other artist likes, tries to befriend the same mutuals, and sometimes even try to pretend to be your race/nationality when they aren't (this last one happened to me, it was so bizarre)

No. 2477422

>>2477417
okay. that sounds creepy as hell
I am afraid to be too inspired by my favorite artist and while I draw similar themes I don't want to be her copy, but this is another level. sorry that happened to you

No. 2477470

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Is it even worth it to go to art school at this point? Like my family is supportive towards it but I don’t wanna feel like I’m wasting money on something that’ll be inherently useless.

No. 2477485

>>2477470
Never went to art school, but the consensus I've seen is that it's only worth it for the networking (actual skill can be cultivated on the side of your irl obligations if you have the proper motivation for it). I'd say don't go if you're not naturally social and/or unwilling to force yourself to act the part for the sake of making useful connections.

No. 2477546

>>2477248
Maybe? Everyone sort of clicks better with some things than others, so there is no blanket response that could apply to everyone. Other things need to be factored in as well, such as who you're learning from and whether or not you're committing things to memory through practice and taking notes. Take notes btw. Make cheat sheets. Google things. Download tutorials.
>>2477249
Yep. It's hell. I hate it too. Absolutely nightmare existence. Thar's why it's so effective if you viciously hate someone. It's a tried and true thing and you and I are proof of its effectiveness of how soul draining it is.
>>2477271
Take notes. Write things down. Make cheat sheets. I could post some of mine or some of the things I readily have on hand. Print things out. Amass notes. WRITE. IT. DOWN.
I have bullshit short memory and I write things down and forget that I did, making it seem like some other person is leaving breadcrumbs for me. Write it down nona. Pictures, colors, and words. Write. It. Down.
>>2477470
Don't do it. The Art Institute was such a scam the burgerland government shut it down and delivered refunds. Art school is so bad, the one my father went to had people graduating without the ability to actually draw. Networking is important but the amount they charge you? No. He went to the art school in philidelphia idk what it's called atm

No. 2477700

>tfw one of my biggest art goals is to be mutuals and friends with a big artist
>but she’s in her early 40s and has been getting less active on social media each passing year
>my following count is more or less stagnant, and events that could’ve made it possible for her to notice me are getting more rare
Does anyone else feel frustrated that they missed the era of when the big artists were super active on social media and just talked and interacted more often in general? It was mostly when tumblr was super popular and twitter was also gaining traction. I’m younger than most of the big name artists that most of the online art community should know, the ones where if you checked their profile, hundreds of artists you follow can be seen listed also following them. It’s like a whole big exclusive club where most people know each other. During this era, my art obviously sucked while a lot of these people already had tens of thousands of followers, or were already in the industry. So I was too late to ever be part of the cool kids. And artists my age all seem lame as fuck in comparison, mostly gendie zoomers.
I’m so incredibly jealous of all the artists who managed to become mutuals and friends with her. I just know she’d also love my art too, we share many similar interests and tastes. And I can’t stop thinking about how old she’ll be if I ever make it big enough to be noticed, or if she (or I) dies before ever noticing me. I feel her noticing my art would be the most rewarding person ever and no one else really matters, so if she ever disappears off the internet then I might lack enthusiasm and motivation to draw again, because what’s the point if my most valued “senior” will never see it. I just want her approval so much

No. 2477708

>>2477470
Maybe if it wasn't so expensive I'd say it's worth it, but I honestly feel like nobody can justify going so far into debt in order to pursue an art career. For a cheaper option, I'd consider going to a public college that has a good art program

No. 2477735

>>2477700
Normally, most anons on this site would eat you alive with "why do you care" "just draw for you" but honestly? Same. It was especially so during the Homestuck era, where these amazing artists would just pop up like Punpunipunchu. But what always baffled me was when I would see shitty artists or people who outright never drew at all become very close to her or other artists I admired at the time. I did get noticed by my favorites, but it came by way of someone reposting something I drew in her inbox, and she was super happy to see it and was super excited as to how it looked. But they didn't source me or let me know. So by the time I'd found out my favorite artist saw something of my own and loved it, they'd already gone offline entirely or died. Fucks me up to this day despite being probably a decade ago.
It also feels a bit sad to become one of those fandom seniors? Like when all of your idols have gone on to either quit the trade or fandom, or got hired professionally, leaving inly… you. Just you, who idk anout you anon, but I see myself as being insanely boring art-wise. But there's nobody around that particular fandom that isn't shilling gendie arts or zoomie slop (the many styles that get dunked on regularly here), and it's so… hollow?
I get what you mean, honest. Like you inherited a throne that sits on skeletons or dung or whatever super dramatic thing someone else could come up with. And then the cycle repeats, and you now get the shitty art in the inboxes of people who admired you the same way you admired your idols. A noose-worthy experience. I don't know how to "draw for myself". I only know how to draw to appease a select few.

No. 2477865

>>2477700
Just send her a message if you think you have a lot in common. Doesn't hurt to try.

>>2477735
>But what always baffled me was when I would see shitty artists or people who outright never drew at all become very close to her or other artists I admired at the time.
That's because those people talk to them. I know a mediocre artist who's been stuck under 5k for years who is mutuals with some really popular artists (like 80-100k) that are way above her skill level just because she reached out to them first and knows how to keep a conversation going. A lot of online artists are somewhat lonely or don't have (m)any fandom friends so they'll be happy to engage. Followers and skill levels don't really matter

No. 2477880

>>2477735
Sorry for the long post. That inbox thing is terrible, art reposters who don’t credit the source are the worst. I’m glad you know what I’m talking about nona. Homestuck era is a great way to describe that time period. Everyone was younger back then so people had more time and energy to post art and socialize with other artists, I remember seeing tweets from an artist saying how sad they were that artists don’t really talk to each other on social media anymore as much as they used to. I guess all the big artists are too busy with jobs and general adult stuff these days. Elon making the site shittier every year also isn’t helping, so many people refuse to post there now or just started posting considerably less.
I never really thought about eventually becoming one of the “seniors” in the art community. Probably because I always flop and get ignored. A bit off topic but I always think about how aging will be like in this age of internet, where people you’ve known for years will slowly stop posting until old age and you’ll never know what happened to them, and just assume they died? Thinking about what social media will be like when we’re actually old was always bleak.
Anyway it would still be nice if I became a famous artist that a lot of people look up to, but having artists that you look up to is also nice. I just want all these artists I admire to be impressed with me. I feel nothing but jealousy when I see all these artists on instagram I follow like each other’s posts regularly. None of them ever followed me back so my art just isn’t amazing enough and it stings.

Honestly I think having a proper and personal art community for me would help a lot with my happiness when it comes to art. I’m jealous of anyone who has a close group of artist friends. I find it so annoying how none of my friends are artists. I do have some online artist mutuals, and I was invited to a discord that consisted of a mutual’s art friends but it’s mostly dead and I’m not really close with anyone there. And on the other hand I’m in a ton of larger servers that focus on art but of course there’s no real sense of coziness or familiarity there.
There was talk about people finding someone else to draw ocs with in the last thread and it sounds so fun. I wish I could join those dnd group projects with other artist friends. I just realized that I don’t have any close art friends in real life or online, which is probably a big reason why I yearn for attention from big artists.

No. 2477901

>>2477865
>Just send her a message if you think you have a lot in common
Ehh I don’t know nona, this person has over 100k followers and I’d just die if they were the type to ignore randos in their dm. What would I even say? Hey I like your art and we have a lot of similar interests, check out my page and see if you want to follow me too?
I actually did reply under a post once where she was drawing other people’s ocs, and of course that got a ton of replies and I remember that one of the replies that was chosen was a newer reply than mine, so she probably saw my oc post too and ignored it since she didn’t even leave a like. To be fair I don’t think she liked every post, but still, maybe she wouldn’t be as impressed with my art than I thought and it’s just my hopeful wishing as usual.
>That's because those people talk to them.
That’s also another thing, I admit that I’m the type to judge others when they try cozying up to big artists. I just can’t help but see it as very fake and desperate, so it’s embarrassing to me. I know it’s kinda hypocritical when I also said I wished artists would socialize with each other more, I guess I’m just too much of a pussy to make a change myself.
I would only consider leaving comments on other posts if we’re mutuals already. If this person isn’t following and they’re a much bigger artist? Nope x2. I just can’t stand the thought of my followers and other mutuals seeing my pathetic ass trying to get a big artist’s attention on their timeline kek. The view counter on tweets make the whole thing even worse, imagine tweeting “omg I love your art sm” under a popular artist’s post, and it gets zero likes and has 3k views. Fucking hate elon so much.
I guess the most direct way of me trying to get this person’s attention would be to draw her ocs. I could post it using her hashtag for her comic since I’m too afraid of @ing her directly, but since she’s barely active she probably will never see it. Even if I was brave enough to @ her, she still might not see it so I’ll look like a fool in front of my followers, or another terrible situation where she DOES see it, likes it and comments, but doesn’t follow me. At that point I’d give up tbh.
For the record, she did used to follow a lot of artists when she was active, and when she made bluesky I noticed that she followed a bunch of new different people including young artists, so I thought following her on bluesky would be my best shot at being noticed but whelp, nothing came out of it

No. 2477903

>>2477880
>I find it so annoying how none of my friends are artists.
Me too. I love my current friends dearly, but as we grow older, we no longer have things in common. I love shipping characters and none of them are really into the whole OC scene.
>There was talk about people finding someone else to draw ocs with in the last thread and it sounds so fun. I wish I could join those dnd group projects with other artist friends. I just realized that I don’t have any close art friends in real life or online, which is probably a big reason why I yearn for attention from big artists.
I was thinking about making some sort of fun OC shipping thing in /m/, but I'm kind of stupid when it comes to making threads. I'll look more into it and try to make one, since it seems like something a lot of drawfags on here want. I know I want it; I miss it. During those Homestuck days, nearly everyone talked to one another and shipped OCs. Tumblr is still kind of dead, but that makes whatever remains rather cozy. I'm not going to pretend like communicating with people is easy on there, but I noticed fujos stick together and artists that avoid doing the diversity thing also seem to be magnetized towards one another. I started recently just commenting on this one Japanese artist's art (they're bilingual I think, and seem to meme too hard to be using Google Translate), and they seemed EXTREMELY happy to talk. I'm hoping it goes somewhere, since I'm tired of the gendies being the ones that want to interact all the time.
Hope this doesn't sound shallow nona, but I'm on this thread nearly 24/7 out of loneliness, so I kinda get the feeling you have lol

No. 2477905

>>2477700
I get what you mean but not as an artist. I followed many artists from many countries on tumblr and pixiv, and then on twitter because we were into the same series or video games, more than 10 years ago. The Japanese ones all nuked their tumblr accounts long ago and only post on twitter about their professionally published books that almost never get officially translated where I am nowadays, best case scenario they'll sometimes retweet videos of cats and birds and post one generic fanart of the new popular shonenslop anime of the year. The ones from Western countries have been harassed online so much based on bullshit like which husbando they married in Fire Emblem they stopped posting as much as they used to or deleted everything. The ones who still post only post personal stuff for their own irl friends completely unrelated to art and fandom or they only annonce which comics or cartoons they're working on, or in which cons they'll sell prints. The most they'll do is reply "thanks a lot" to whoever try to strike a conversation with them if they don't know each other so I don't try. The ones who went pro are most likely still a bit paranoid they'll be deemed too problematic for their industry and blacklisted after dealing with harassment over weeb video games and husbandos so I understand why they try to seem as neutral as possible though. Some of them decided to post way more on bluesky to avoid bots polluting their notifications but not that many of them.

No. 2477921

>>2477903
The /m/ thread sounds like a fun idea, but unfortunately I don’t think I’d ever post my art/ocs on this site because of gendie lurkers who could possibly rat me out if they recognized me. Reminds me of when this general decided to join artfight and created a tag to identify other farmers but some self hating troonie here tattletaled to the af mods and got people here banned. I still hope that people who can post their art here freely will enjoy the thread if it’s ever made.
>>2477905
That’s sad, following artists for a specific interest/fandom is always hard since most of them will stop drawing that particular fandom. That’s why true dedicated autists are so special like that famous Hyouka artist who was bullied off the internet.
I don’t have a particular fandom I wanted to see from artists since I follow for their art style only, so most of the artists I love still post at least regularly thankfully. But I always make sure to save their art in a folder on my pc regularly in case they ever delete everything and I encourage nonas to do the same. I can’t bear the thought of not having my favorite artists’ work on my pc at all times

No. 2478022

>>2477470
Modern schools? No. I would save for atelier classes to get foundational skills and instant feedback. There’s only so much you can teach yourself without someone else helping you fix your weak spots. See what is available locally since it’s usually cheaper.

No. 2478036

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>>2477903
>finding someone else to draw ocs with
I was just reminded that artfight is in July and I only learned about it last year after it had ended.
I'm planning to join this year just because it seems fun to take drawing ocs into a competition.

No. 2478041

>>2477921
>troonie ruined the fun
I should have known, damn

No. 2478044

>>2477921
>Reminds me of when this general decided to join artfight and created a tag to identify other farmers but some self hating troonie here tattletaled to the af mods and got people here banned.
This is the most depressing thing I've read this year. Thanks for the heads up though; I guess if I'm going to put up any OCs for others to enjoy on this site, they'd have to be made from the ground up specifically for here.
>>2478036
Two months left! I don't have any artist friends atm since I DFE'd my last account due to a stalker (who found me again). I really like drawing for others on there. I don't care if they enjoy or hate the resulting art, I just like enjoying designs an experimenting.

No. 2478051

>>2478044
Maybe our dogwhistle this year can be just not putting pronouns anywhere? And other tactics like not posting our pictures until after it's ended.
I was planning to do 2 seperate accounts anyway just incase one gets banned, but i do not know how the whine to get someone banned process works, so if it requires user interaction I'd just try and get them banned first for cyber bullying or something

No. 2478070

>>2477700
Something about your post makes me sad nona… I hope one day you're able to enjoy your art as something just for you, and you're able to move past idolising these artists as much as you do. At the end of the day they're just other people with their own problems and flaws and it's so incredibly lonely to idolise someone who might never know you exist.

Speaking from experience, of course. I can 100% sympathise because I definitely look up to some popular artists! I'm also older though so I've already gone through several 'hyper-idolising to crashing out' phases over the years.

Hope I didn't come off as condescending kek, I just want you to be happy

No. 2478092

>>2477921
If I knew how to code i'd make a super special lolcow quiz for anons to take and be given a special code word if they pass. But I don't know how to make it anonymous so the paranoid anons don't think I'm stealing their data kek.

No. 2478153

>>2478051
Super simple and to the point. Most people who hate troons don't participate in the pronoun usage thing anyway. I'm sure that it's be hard to enforce this without pissing off an unsettling amount of unrelated artists (people who are stealth trans or some fuck). I would stick to drawing for people without pronouns but idk, some designs that are mega fun are drawn by corrupted artists who want to pretend to be gendies for the followers.

No. 2478158

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>>2478092
I thought about doing that too but couldn't figure out a way besides a Google form that doesn't indicate right or wrong answers and emailing anons who passed with the tag name and emailing the ones who didn't with a fake one kek. But I'm too busy for it and though I'd suggest making throw away proton emails I feel like it'd sketch too many anons out as you've said.
>>2478051
>>2478153
Too vague to be used as an identifier for LC nonas specfically, there are more normal artists who don't use pronouns and there are also /ic/fags on there who don't participate in that.

No. 2478249

Have any nonnies bought the new masters academy sub? Do you find it worth it? I’m trying out drawabox and noticed their partnership and the price point isn’t too bad. I’m really curious about NMAs rare art book library

No. 2478254

>>2478036
i want to do art fight so bad but i haven't done it in so long and i dont even use ocs anymore…
>>2478158
maybe no pronouns and something cow related? but idk about planning stuff on here, last time with the bans it was obvious whoever was calling it out found out on these threads

No. 2478287

>>2478254
You should do it! You have almost 3 months to prep. I hate that /ic/ fags can openly have an artfight thread and post their accounts, but we have to use dogwhistles to try to find each other

No. 2478293

>>2477921
>I always make sure to save their art in a folder on my pc regularly in case they ever delete everything and I encourage nonas to do the same.
I retweet whatever I like and save my data so I can still have their art saved somewhere in case they delete their accounts. I've noticed that some artists I like who went pro a few years ago have started to sometimes repost their old art from time to time with captions like "it's been a while since I made this but enjoy". Some Japanese artists I follow into a specific fandom right now repost everything on pixiv long after posting on twitter too.

No. 2478323

>>2478287
That gave me an idea, what if we somehow signaled to each other on /ic/ when an artfight thread gets made? There’s usually a thread up when the event draws nearer so nonas could probably try and find each other there instead. At least if some troon is obsessed enough to follow us there to get us banned on af, then the whole ship goes down including the 4chan moids kek.
What even was the secret code last time? Was it just #farmer? I’d be shocked if such a generic tag was enough for the mod to ban several people. Also, I’m thinking that the troon who ratted us out was just a summer tourist since af takes place in July so maybe they aren’t here now? If you guys organized this early, they might never know

No. 2478336

>>2478323
It was "pasture", and apparently nonnas who interacted with the banned accounts also got banned in some cases. I like your idea but it also depends on much you're able to stand moid seethe. They already cry when women on DAD are friendly to each other kek. I still like the idea of having a fake pre-existing tag for the snitch to fuck themselves over with.

No. 2478344

>>2478336
>I like your idea but it also depends on much you're able to stand moid seethe.
I was thinking nonas could go into the /ic/ thread like “any farmers here?” and nonas would reply to that post. 4chan moids shouldn’t care or notice it too much as long as we just reply to each other.
#pasture for sure is specific so I can see why it was easy to spot nonnies ocs out in the wild. Perhaps using the #farmer tag for ocs would be better, since there’s no doubt many characters tagged as farmer already? If you guys went on with this then maybe your ocs would have to be farmer themed somewhat, or not and you could just slap the farmer tag just because and no one will really question it

No. 2478358

Is there any particular reason you need Artfight specifically? Couldn't you guys just make a thread on /m/ to share artwork and directly participate there self contained on lolcow?

No. 2478380

>>2477243
I hope you'll grow up. I can clearly tell you are one of the summerfags because you don't know about the skinwalker cows.

No. 2478392

>>2478358
There is a thread for that exact thing >>>/m/188283. Anons just love to victimize themselves

No. 2478393

>>2478358
I understand that they want to have fun with art fight but they might just get banned again by lurkers snitching again. Nonas on here should probably use a request thread or the drawing board if they want to. I think it would be best to play it safe.

No. 2478417

>>2478358
>>2478392
nta and never did artfight, personally have no interest in it, but
>3 year old thread with 26 replies
I think it makes sense why people would be more likely to go for the popular trendy event where you’re guaranteed to get at least a few oc fanarts

I do think trying to find subtle code words and symbols to find each other on artfight is a bit pointless though. At that point just email each other and make a discord group to share your art accounts, like what gamedev anons did to start collabing >>2157880 There’s even a method for vetting

No. 2478422

>>2478358 >>2478392
It's a bit different, I guess what nonas want is to draw for/with other farmers without the general public knowing they use lolcow. Posting your art or OC over here is dangerous if you want to keep your use of this site a secret

No. 2478456

>>2478422
And openly talking about lameass codewords on here isn't risky? It's literally how they got busted last time. They should really just make a discord if they are this scared of kids with pronouns in bio

No. 2478489

>>2476846
You would need an art fight account to view user submissions and you'd have to willingly search for it in order to find artwork associated with the code word. You can also remove the tag at any time and remove association at any time. Posting on this site on the other hand will stay forever and anyone can view it

No. 2478510

File: 1744031203147.jpg (418.87 KB, 1080x2155, 1000016241.jpg)

>the sheer amount of furries
I'm going to bookmark evey sparkled I come across for a challenge

No. 2478521

>>2478456
Never said it wasn't, I was just explaining why they don't want to use the LC threads.

No. 2478529

File: 1744032662672.jpeg (70.89 KB, 1385x1412, IMG_8399.jpeg)

Where did Kate and her sister’s necks go in the last 2 redesigns?

No. 2478547

>>2478529
kek this is so fucking accurate, I remember seeing shit tons of girls like this in anime conventions when I was teen, accurate representation of the average thirdie otaku

No. 2478559

File: 1744034363340.webp (42.62 KB, 480x270, 585020_cb94_5.webp)

Sorry to vent but it just came to mind; when I was 12 or so my mom took me to an art club for their paint evening with an art teacher as a fun mother-daughter activity. I was the only child there, people in the club were nice and didn't have a problem with it. But halfway through the (hired) art teacher stopped the class to evaluate our works so far and she specifically out of all the paintings picked up my painting. Which was super obviously done by a kid, the only kid there. It really looked like the most stereotypical child painting with cute colorful creatures like picrel (but worse), you couldn't mistake it for anything else among the adult paintings. And this grown ass woman goes on to criticize it harshly in front of all the adults, knowing full well it's done by a literal child. She even pointed out things like "even if it looks nice this way… if you turn it on the side it's ruined because the subject is central to the painting" as if that's even a problem?! We were not instructed to do anything abstract or turnable like that btw. She then picks up adult paintings praising what I had done wrong and they had done right - no negatives about the others. I still get upset thinking about it to this day, it's a wonder I even kept doing art at all after she humiliated me like that in front of adults.

No. 2478561

>>2478529
I don't really like her art but… accurate. I even had a very similar anime, off brand messenger bag in secondary school kek.

No. 2478563

>>2478529
She just needs a few Hetalia badges on her bag and she's a perfect copy of like 10 girls I knew in high school and university.

No. 2478596

>>2478559
Sorry that happened to you but it's so absurd that this teacher seriously criticized a child's artwork that it's comical. Loser. I am reminded of a high school art teacher I had who actually got mad at me for asking for critique after class and started to rant to me about how professional critique sessions cost $200/hour and HOW DARE I ask her for critique outside of class. That made me feel like shit as a young teen. Loser art teachers are the worst.

No. 2478616

>>2478287
My guess is because trannies also use /ic/. They certainly like 4chan.
Maybe we could include one blonde cow OC and no pronouns in bio? That's vague enough for nobody to get singled out without there being accidental overlap. I think it is crutial to blend in somewhat with everyone else so that they can't target us too specifically.

No. 2478622

File: 1744037711226.png (102.98 KB, 757x628, shoewear.png)

CPS nonas, so everytime you want a 3D model to wear shoes you have to MANUALLY fix each fucking shoe to the feet? There isnt any avaiable preset? jesus

No. 2478623

File: 1744037851949.png (1.06 MB, 1378x923, 544.png)

hold on, is Brujo's story set in USA or some Argentinian villa? look at those damn windows

No. 2478629

>>2478623
Even in the ghetto you're more likely to see trailers, and people covering thier windows with tinfoil than iron on bars

No. 2478636

>>2478380
dude calm down lol. I don't really go on other boards, and most of the cows I am invested in are not skinwalkers. Idk what you mean by summerfag; I am here year round? I hope you have a good day today though; I dislike infights.
>>2478622
Might be able to make a preset yourself I believe. I know you can with hands and poses.

No. 2478660

>>2478623
She's mexican. She's probably never set foot in america so she doesnt know the difference between chicano and latam culture

No. 2478666

>>2478636
>Idk what you mean by summerfag; I am here year round?
ntyart but jesus christ why are newfags so allergic to lurking or even using google.

No. 2478668

>>2478660
>>2478623
I seriously can't wait until her gendie fanbase "eats her guts" and just quits or has a mental health break.
the death of dreams can sometimes be so beautiful.

No. 2478670

>>2478529
I actually like this design, I think it's cute kek

No. 2478684

>>2478529
>>2478660
is Brujo a millennial or just a zoomer obsessed with 2yk aesthetics?

No. 2478686

>>2478684
the latter, she's 23 years old

No. 2478714

>>2478623
Tbh this is fine to me, I’ve seen house fronts similar to this in west chicago where there’s a big Latino community (and it’s generally poorer neighborhoods). I actually find this type of house cute and cozy, there are always lots of stone/plastic angels outside and garden gnomes and shit which helps offset the barred windows. I forget what state her show is set in though.

No. 2478751

>>2478529
I don’t mind this design change but the anatomy looks like it still needs some work. To be fair this is after drawing Barbie doll bodies for a while it seems

No. 2478925

>>2478529
this is fine, it is very accurate

No. 2478974

>>2478666
I'm not a newfag???

No. 2479076

>>2479070
Please educate yourself about AI before making dumb posts.

No. 2479166

>>2478666
I think nona knows what a summerfag is, she’s just confused as to why you’re accusing her of being one.

No. 2479343

>>2479166
I'm not the anon that originally called her one, hence "ntyart"

No. 2479364

File: 1744068864796.jpeg (91.7 KB, 736x732, 9ee6873a-8176-4a28-9bd5-5c4909…)

I decided that Im gonna hermitmaxx and hide all of my art from the public eye until it morphs into something acceptable and I stop being an embarasment to my lineage. Ive stopped fucking around and started learning anatomy, wish me luck nonnas(no soyjaks)

No. 2479370

>>2479364
Good luck nona. How does one even start with learning the fundies of anatomy? Is Loomis really the most popular answer for artists? If anyone knows a good YouTube series for art fundies that would be great. I also want to improve my anatomy and watching videos would probably be more easier to digest than reading pdf files of Loomis.

No. 2479457

>>2479370
Mindlessly reading or watching won't help you either way. You need to actually draw

No. 2479466

How do you design sexy men in risque attire without making it look retarded?

No. 2479481

>>2479364
Godspeed soldier. We will watch your progress with great interest (?).
>>2479370
nta I can gather up my anatomy references if that helps anyone. It ranches from super simplistic breakdowns I nabbed from Pinterest to just anatomy books. It's a stepping stone. My stuff is color-coded because I am a retard.
>>2479466
It's a thin line you tread. I think the difference between retarded designs and pure sex is the body type and how the outfits lay on their figure. Compare Yu-gi-Oh characters to JoJo characters. (no shade mesnt at either)

No. 2479501

File: 1744078177829.jpg (45.66 KB, 735x726, gl.jpg)

>>2479364
good luck nonna! i actually fully stopped posting some time ago and i feel ok with it but i'm unsure about my progress

No. 2479643

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>>2479364
>no soyjaks

No. 2479668

File: 1744095156328.png (168.51 KB, 860x860, 1000042393.png)

>>2479364
>No soyjaks!(spam)

No. 2479677

File: 1744097308821.png (267.48 KB, 770x858, IMG_5782.PNG)

>>2479668
>No soyjaks(spam)

No. 2479818

File: 1744120743601.png (6.23 KB, 243x154, unknown-15.png)

>post untagged 30 second funny doodle of gay woman ocs a week ago
>wake up to it somehow having 200+ notes almost exclusively from porn addicted tims who post about incest and rape and pissing themselves
Im killing myself nonas

No. 2479844

>>2479818
rip, I wish there was a way to draw lesbians without attracting them. For every cool (usually russian for some reason) lesbian who likes my art, I get a billion pornsick trannies, it fucking sucks.

No. 2480034

>>2479818
When will these nasty rapehons finally all 41% themselves already?

No. 2480296

>>2478529
Okay I'm mad
She looks exactly like I did during my freshman year at highschool back in the day, even the same kind and of backpack and blue shirt, my 16 year old self could have cosplayed this without trying.

No. 2480302

>>2479818
Stuff like makes me glad I started drawing men more. My heart goes out to you nonna.

No. 2480307

>>2479818
I terfpost and they fuck off. I'll never draw scrotes because I'm not attracted to them. Trannies are pansy

No. 2480330

>>2479818
this is why lots of women get into BL, it's gay without attracting TIMs. of course most are trans supporters (or act like they are) but don't hang around/avoid TIMs.

No. 2480337

I am jealous of twitter artists who's followers are interested in their OCs.

No. 2480350

>>2480337
I feel you anon, I'm lowkey the same kek. I've had OCs for years far before Twitter and I never really had much people take an interest in them. Thankfully I'm so engulfed in (slowly) building them up to where I don't want to part with them but sometimes it'd be nice if other people had a slight interest in them as well.

I think a problem though might not be giving interactive content. Do you have a comic or anything like that that goes with your OCs? Personally I don't because as much as I'd like to do a comic, I'm too lazy but I've noticed that sometimes that can help drum up some interest.

No. 2480360

Some more Twisted Disaster shenanigans for the 2 anons who like to hear about this besides me. TD is funny when trying to frame these problems as if she's doing it because she's concerned for the "smaller" or "beginner" artists when it's so clear she's trying to speak on the fact that these issues personally affect her. I don't work artist alleys or cons and I'm sure there might be some truth to what she's saying but anytime she says that EVERY artist at the cons she works at are doing bad except for the uber popular con artists, I have to side eye a bit. I highly doubt she talks to every artist working the con and let alone that every artist would divulge to her how terrible they are doing.
Just seems like a bit of a cope on her end.
And all this on top of her job-search still going.

No. 2480489

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I know it's just a thumbnail and the typical youtube hyperbole, but come on. A week of studying is invigorating, if you can't take that why are you even drawing? This type of whining just peeves me.

No. 2480506

>>2480296
Yeah that's just me too kek Wasn't a COMPLETE orb tho
>>2480360
Oh man. TwistedDisaster… I used to watch her for her story time recollections. Is she a cow now? I saw her being mentioned previously but didn't look too much into it. I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??? Very… strange but hardly interesting at the time.
>>2480489
Weekly challenge vids are kinda stupid ngl. Tired of seeing the bait pop up.

No. 2480527

>>2480506
samefag Yeah, art fundamentals should basically be most artists' warmups? I can't imagine it being THAT draining of an exercise? After a certain point, it should either be second nature or something you feel addicted or obligated to do because you've established it as a
yknow,
>fundamental

No. 2480567

>>2480360
Idk who that girl is, but my friend who has a pretty decent following went to Wondercon last weekend and barely broke even. At NYCC she sold almost $10k though. So I don’t know if that’s a “cons are bad across the board” thing or if it’s just California because they just got done getting fucked by the wildfires. Another factor is that con is right next to Disneyland so obviously people are going to go spend their money there instead of at the con.

No. 2480923

File: 1744206868192.jpg (342.32 KB, 720x1398, Screenshot_20250409-155109_Ins…)

found this brujo_ari clone on my insta explore

No. 2480926

>>2480923
they can't really copy the 2000s anime or even western fauxime style well, it always feels insincere

No. 2480927

>>2480923
This almost feels like a troll kek, they're not even trying to hide their ripoff status

No. 2480986

>>2480337
Good on them. I think that inspires me to do better with my mine like doing my fundies or making short comics detailing my world.

No. 2480991

>>2480923
Kudos to her for twinkifying both of them instead of doing weird heterosexual but still-totes-queerio dimorphism on her yaoi ship kek

No. 2481012

>>2480926
IMO it's a kid skinwalking Ari rather than a troll, n0richim started posting in Feb 2024, just 4 months after Ari announced she was going to make her Jojo AU into OCs and revamped Kate's design. She probably just wanted to get followers by stealing Ari's AU concept and trying to copy her style

No. 2481014

File: 1744212304379.jpeg (1.24 MB, 1179x1983, IMG_4936.jpeg)

This has been doing rounds on Twitter recently and am I the only one who feels like there’s something sinister about this art? It feels very pedophilic, even moreso than normal lolishit.

No. 2481018

>>2481014
It's the facial expressions of Snow White and Cinderella, it's just typical mesugaki faces only plastered on teenagers instead of lolis. Weird shit either way

No. 2481019

>>2481014
Nah, I see it. Snow White's expression is almost a subtle ahegao and they've all got that suggestive, sultry blushing thing going on that you usually see in degen hentai art.
>>2481018
Yes, this, thank you for putting it more succicntly lol.

No. 2481020

>>2481014
because they're doing the "megusaki loli" face or whatever "brats" are translated from, with the peace hand sign thats used a lot in grotesque hentai, gyaru fashion style and not an expressive/experimental one like manbaru but the kind associated with delinquent middle school girls that do compensated dating seen in hentai and retarded shounen slop "romance" as WHORE or speculated whore or whore with a heart of gold

No. 2481022

>>2481018
>>2481019
Also gyaru being inherently sexual despite what libfems and tourists think. Why can’t these genetic dead ends fuck off back to blue archive?

No. 2481024

>>2481020
Nailed it, nona.
>>2481022
Gyaru has always been a provocative and edgy style but I hate how it's almost solely pulled out for hentai tropes these days.

No. 2481025

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>>2481014
and if you had any doubt and thought you were being "hysterical" about the faces like "oh what if that's just how they draw cheeky youthful girls!" here's moids' reactions.

No. 2481028

>>2481018
I actually thought the blue one was supposed to be Elsa but it makes more sense that Cinderella is hanging out with Snow and Aurora.

No. 2481029

File: 1744213011719.jpeg (340.94 KB, 1353x1600, Gn7lDiWagAA5z22.jpeg)

>>2481014
There's another one. Belle's eyes look retarded

No. 2481031

>>2481029
This feels like softcore porn. Jasmine would never wear a thong either, ew. I wonder if the artist is a woman

No. 2481033

File: 1744213204121.jpg (141.5 KB, 850x934, __original_drawn_by_ompf__samp…)

>>2481031
Probably a woman. Her old artstyle was very girly

No. 2481034

File: 1744213229525.jpeg (205.11 KB, 1000x1200, GoGAaYiaAAAXAJp.jpeg)

>>2481029
just saw it too nonnie, give em an inch, they'll take it a mile, they saw the reactions to the first one and thought they could get away with more degeneracy.
also kek at picrel, the icky boring East Asian character is the one who looks most "normal" kek

No. 2481035

>>2481033
What a stupid pickme whore. Notice how she never defiles series made for moidlets. Hope she gets raped by a lolimoid(a-logging)

No. 2481038

>>2481029
>draw 3D era princess alongside renaissance princesses
this is making me more mad that it should, wtf ariel fits more into this group

No. 2481039

>>2481035
Context? Did she shits on media made for woman?

No. 2481041

>>2481034
samefag inb4 racebait i meant that the exoticism runs so deep they couldn't sexualize the East Asian more.

No. 2481042

>>2481034
Based Mulan looking the most normal

No. 2481043

>>2481039
Drawing porn of series made for young girls as a woman makes you a pickme. What a revolting individual

No. 2481046

File: 1744213544997.jpg (85.32 KB, 1028x688, Sydus.jpg)

>>2481014
This moid on picrel is a vocal anti-ai but he draws nothing but boring uninspiring coomer animu girls on white background

No. 2481047

>>2481043
not just any softcore porn, the barely legal kind

No. 2481053

File: 1744213723622.jpeg (140.75 KB, 736x1038, EE0C5B09-0DE8-4CDE-A3DA-A42022…)

>>2481019
I also think it’s the heavy, half-lidded eyes combined with sticking their tongue out and the blushing like you said. I see it almost exclusively in media meant for scrotes to get off to compared to something like picrel aimed at women.

No. 2481056

>>2481046
I agree, we should use AI to get back to these coomer animu "Artist"

No. 2481060

>>2481046
this moid is fucking revolting, a lolifeetfag disgusting.

No. 2481067

File: 1744214094971.jpg (88.07 KB, 1027x713, A.jpg)

>>2481056
>>2481060
>>2481046
This is the type artists ai wants to replace

No. 2481072

File: 1744214275437.webp (Spoiler Image,39.09 KB, 669x680, media_Gn_vhj7bAAA9Rs1.jpg_name…)

>>2481067
He also made porn of Dora the explorer

No. 2481078

>>2481029
Jfc why do Japanese people always put girls who are meant to be indian/arab in such disgusting outfits all the time. I know Disney did it themselves with Jasmine to begin with but this is pissing me off as much as the disgusting outfits Nintendo put underage "gerudo" girls in with the recent Zelda games.

No. 2481082

>>2481078
This artist is probably not Japanese, she sounds like a generic weeaboo

No. 2481084

>>2481078
its meant to be gyaru

No. 2481091

>>2481078
I mean jasmines outfit is still a lot less provocative I’d say, it’s still a form of subtle sexualization though

No. 2481093

>>2481034
>>2481041
Spats are sexualized, it's just that she's in the "sporty tomboy" category.

No. 2481096

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>>2481014
>>2481029
>>2481034
these drawings remind me of the cute disney princess fan art in the westaboo art threads, if any nona wants some eyebleach >>>/m/246187 there's way more in that thread
>>2481078
idk much about the topic but I do know this kind of stuff is called orientalism, you can read more about it in your own time
>>2481067
>>2481072

No. 2481097

>>2481078
>>2481091
I actually think she is just trying to reference the original dress because im sure that trying to adapt the theme park dress into a school uniform would have been way harder.

No. 2481105

File: 1744215320350.png (886.32 KB, 1170x2032, 0207.png)

>>2480923
saw this one and found it funny that they even copied the instagram story text "i think i wanna change this character" thing that brujo does

No. 2481106

>>2481034
Is there any backlash in quote tweets?

No. 2481107

File: 1744215379906.jpg (541.62 KB, 1638x2048, GnWtL49a4AAqKNH.jpg)

>>2480506
>Oh man. TwistedDisaster… I used to watch her for her story time recollections. Is she a cow now? I saw her being mentioned previously but didn't look too much into it. I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??? Very… strange but hardly interesting at the time.
AYRT and I watched her for her story times as well but eventually she stopped doing them and focused more on art related topics. I don't know if I would call her a full cow but more like a semi-cow because of her lack of self awareness to her own art and her constant excuses for various things in her life. She's kind of like Amberlynn Reid but not abusive, just whiny and lazy.
Like discussed in last thread, she's been on a job hunt but has the most ridiculous standards despite her not working an IRL job for close to 10 years now.

>Applied at a UPS store and didn't want to work there because she feared she'd get "hate-crimed" for being "nonbinary" and getting "misgendered" by not getting referred to with "they/them" pronouns.

>Wants to make above minimum wage but is not willing to work a job that would pay that like warehouses and computer-related jobs. But she more or less thinks retail is beneath her because she claims to make more money doing her art yet frequently opens for emergency commissions.
>Believes that she was discriminated from a job opportunity because she put that she is Jewish on her job application and can't work on Fridays and Saturdays to which the job was given to someone else. Mmind you, she doesn't practice Judaism and that she more than likely didn't get the job because she put that she couldn't work Friday and Saturday.
>Continually she goes on and on about how great she is with her line art and coloring yet seems to be allergic to practicing her anatomy and foundations and her style quality is picrel.
>Went a whole 9 months not having her period and thinking that was normal only to finally go to the doctor when she started experiencing excruciating pain.
All of this is kind of cowish behavior in my view but despite her ridiculousness, I'm not sure if I would call her a full-blown lolcow because she's not as active on her YouTube and her cowish behavior is mostly seen on her Twitch where she says all kinds of dumb things.

>I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??

I don't remember that, her character that she uses is a black cyclops cat but I don't recall people saying that that was racist. I think you're probably thinking about PonderSprocket? She initially had a POC character for her talk sprite but then changed it because she felt it was misleading to use a POC character when she's a white woman.

No. 2481108

>>2481105
Zoomers ruined scene fashion, absolutely no sense of originality

No. 2481116

File: 1744215845429.jpg (274.26 KB, 1200x1500, twisteddisaster-20250214_16302…)

>>2480567
AYRT and oh right, the LA area did have those crazy wildfires so that more than likely did affect attendance and sales. And also another good point about Disneyland being next to it, it makes sense why people would rather spend a lot of money at Disneyland vs a con which when you think about it, is kinda crazy that they'd have the con be in that location lol
But the thing with this woman is that almost every con she works, most of them she said that she didn't make all that much money aside from making her table back but also always felt the need to tell the viewer that all the other artist alley artists were doing just as bad and with how frequently she would say this, I just had to give some side eye, especially when it's coming from an artist who's quality is picrel to where it's not surprising why an artist like her may not get as much sales compared to others who have a more refined style.

No. 2481117

>>2481105
>yurr
Right up there with "NAAAUURRR" as far as words that make a pickaxe to the skull seem more preferable.

No. 2481124

File: 1744215974400.webp (22.1 KB, 600x800, 59489579_p0_master1200.webp)

>>2481034
Looking at her older works, it gives off the vibes of an angsty depressed teenage girl browsing obscure imageboards, it's such a shame she went to the pick-me coomer path

No. 2481130

>>2480991
Give it time anon, she might end up going that route like so many of them tend to do kek.

>>2481012
If she was trying to mimic her older style where it looked more like TDI / 6Teen in style, she'd probably pick up a lot of Brujo's fans who initially liked her style for that quality before she started moving away from it.

>>2481108
As someone who was a teen when scene was the "in" thing, I think it's because these zoomers didn't live it and all they have to go off of are pictures on Pinterest which is what makes the style whether they attempt to dress it or make their OCs dress it come off as inauthentic. It probably doesn't help that zoomers don't seem to have a style that defines their generation unlike previous generations (70-80s = punks & goths, 90s = grunge, 00s - mall emos and scenekids). Maybe the E-Girl/E-Boy aesthetic is theirs defining style?

No. 2481133

>>2481130
What "that" route?

No. 2481137

>>2481133
Giving into genderspecial/troonism with her characters.

No. 2481278

File: 1744222589081.jpeg (Spoiler Image,1.45 MB, 3332x4096, GlJFd_pW8AAn4tF.jpeg)

I’m always surprised with what you can get away with if you rendermaxx and slap bimbo tits onto something. The anatomy is all fucked. What’s wrong with her leg? Why is she melting? Did she fall or did she pass out drunk?

No. 2481280

do you post in full resolution or in a lower resolution? I heard you should always post in a lower res, but sometimes I will see amazing artwork on twitter being posted at a high quality. I am not sure how much of a big deal it is to upload in full res or not.

No. 2481311

>>2481014
>It feels very pedophilic
What? I think that word has officially lost all meaning

No. 2481318

>>2481311
She meant the art has lolicon-bait vibes.

No. 2481319

>>2481318
Call me insane but the art doesn't feel very lolicon to me. They're just schoolgirls with a whole preppy/mean girl vibe and nothing more?

No. 2481323

>>2481319
They're dogwhistles. To the average person who wouldn't even know what a megusaki or gyaru archtype is they would see it as a regular drawing of anime girls.

No. 2481328

>>2481323
nta but while i get that some art like this can be dogwhistles, branding all "mean girl" and the entire gyaru genre as lolicon dogwhistles seems delusional and borderline puritan as fuck.

No. 2481332

>>2481323
Gyaru and Mesugaki/Kusogaki are entirely different things nona please stop clutching your pearls. The drawing looks okay to me, at most I'd like it more if their skirts were longer but outside of that it's nothing big.

No. 2481339

>>2481034
Ariel looks a bit psychotic with the crab claw and tentacle, like she killed both Sebastian and Ursula lmao and Mulan? on the right doesn’t look like her at all. I thought her signature color was dark red but the colors match Tiana, like a school uniform.

No. 2481344

>>2481319
nta but those anger emojis are a reference to the cunny child vagina rape correction meme, its pandering to that audience

No. 2481346

>>2481328
>>2481332
I agree the initial drawing of cinderella, snow white and aurora aren't that bad but you'd have to be blind if you see >>2481029 and find nothing wrong with it

No. 2481348

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>>2481319
i only became familiar with megusaki after that gross loli miku song came out. The original drawing (ariel, tiana, mulan) seemed normal, but the ones that follow have the exact expression of the megusaki loli miku.

No. 2481351

>>2481348
God I fucking hate that song so much and I hate how popular it became. It's so disgusting

No. 2481352

>>2481348
the other big hint this is pedo pandering is how the moids are reacting to it, fucking zoomies and their cognitive dissonance

No. 2481359

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>>2481319
They arent even lolis so i dont get it either. Smug anime girls have been a thing since before mesugaki.

No. 2481367

>>2481359
>Toga
You proved your point by posting an obvious yandere fetish bait character?

No. 2481370

>>2481367
what does that have to do with anything? she isnt a loli

No. 2481381

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>>2481359
smug anime girls is a common ecchi/hentai trope since forever as well. mesugaki is just a newer term for it. funny you mention toga, her whole gimmick is getting naked and losing her clothes when she uses her powers

No. 2481382

>>2481367
not every mean/smug/rowdy/bratty girl character is a loli fetish bait anon. sometimes girls can just be shitty brats.

No. 2481383

>>2481382
>Not every smug anime girl is fetish bait
You're right technically, but that example is kek, she literally gets naked in all her fight scenes and makes retarded blushing faces

No. 2481386

>>2481383
i wasn't necessarily talking about toga (i haven't watched or read bnha because i know there's a perverted grape looking sleazy fuck who i don't want to waste my time with watching)

No. 2481389

>>2481352
I swear anime fans from literally just a few years ago weren't nearly as retarded and wilfully ignorant about fanservice/fetish bait tropes kek. Inb4 "wah we're all desensitized and groomed"

No. 2481390

>>2481319
When I saw the art I thought it was just gyaru too. I know weebshit is full of fanservice but there's a lot of anons here who will call anything loli like they learned the word yesterday

No. 2481393

>>2481328
Men who lust after highschoolers are still called lolicons nona, it's only the west that seems to cope and say it's somehow less degenerate when it involves highschoolers.

No. 2481396

>>2481393
That's not what lolicon is

No. 2481409

>>2481396
Doesn’t matter what coping western anime fans say is or isn’t lolicon, Nippon moids call anything underage or child like loli. Japan also considered anyone under the age of 20 to be minors and only recently lowered it to 18 in 2022

No. 2481412

>>2481107
ayrt Yoo you're right. I mixed her up with PonderSprocket.
>her job complaints
This shit is mad hilarious. I now have something to watch for the next couple of days.

No. 2481416

>>2481107
>The character's demon tail is entirely skin coloured
Legitimately disgusting, what compels somebody to make such an ugly design

No. 2481418

>>2481280
Posting high res art can make you an easy target for AI training. There are some other risks too, but they only apply if you are a good artist. If you're mid, it shouldn't matter.

No. 2481467

>>2481416
The style is so bad the tail's color has no bearing on anything really.

No. 2481507

>>2481107
the retarded bumps on her lines because of muh style make me so irrationally angry she looks like a cactus and the butthole lips being the same shade as the skin tone this whole picture is disgusting to look at

No. 2481643

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This bit is getting annoying, random youtuber needs attention and now everyone else has to deal with it. What even is the joke??

No. 2481649

>>2481643
Holy autism

No. 2481676

>>2481643
Is there context?

No. 2481686

>>2481280
I post in a slightly lower res for commissions I get from clients I know are nitpicky about details. I think it slightly helps keep the nitpicks down. One time I even had a client ask if there was a higher resolution available for the image and I just lied kek
>>2481389
I really don't get it. How can you look at >>2481029 where Jasmine's wearing a thong and exposed bra, and Belle's posed with cleavage and her leg carefully posed to hide what would be a pantyshot ALL while wearing shit that makes them look like middles schoolers and say this isn't meant to titillate pedophile anime fans? I'll grant that the other images are more ambiguous in their sexual intent, but let's be for real about this one.

No. 2481703

>>2481014
You're probably feeling wrong about the "vaguely school uniform-esque outfit" look conbined with a tiny miniskirt conbined with the chibi faces maybe conbined with the drawing simply having kinda shit anatomy like the tiny ass feet. I don't think it comes of as particularly worse than standard high school anime girl coomerbait stuff, but the legs make me feel this guy might genuinely have a fetish for anorexia. That "knees bent inwards" pose anime artists love already makes most anime girls look retarded or like they have some fucked up bone disorder, but the way they're drawn here genuinely reads like almost Eugenia Cooney tier legs.
>>2481033
>Self harm scars
Ok, if this is a woman she is probably anorexic herself.

No. 2481704

>>2481686
And rapunzel's feet is very tiny

No. 2481708

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>>2481703
>Ok, if this is a woman she is probably anorexic herself
She is a woman, she posted selfies on her second acc

No. 2481710


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No. 2481716

>>2481713
>>2481708
Bleak. Holy hell shit like this is why it's hard for me not to hate other women.

No. 2481726

>>2481676
Super Mario Wonder

No. 2481735

>>2481710
Isn't it almost exam season for burgers, bit cheeky aren't they?

No. 2481745

>>2481344
What anger emojis and what meme??? I don’t think I want to know but I probably should so I recognize pedo dog whistles.

No. 2481757

>>2481745
NTA but you could either read the thread or look up what anon said.

No. 2481759

>>2481745
I do not want to get banned but the emojis are here. >>2481025

No. 2481765

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>>2481745
Picrel. There's a meme that's been going around rape correcting centered around loli characters pretty much. If you see anyone saying "uoooh", spamming of the crying emoji (depends on context but it should be pretty easy to spot), phrases like correction is needed or some variant, then you've spotted them.

No. 2481824

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>>2481745
It’s time for a history lesson https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/uohhhhhhhhh-%F0%9F%98%AD
This is the original tweet for the crying face and uohhh thing, I’ll post the og tweet of the brat correction meme after this. Moid in pic rel is mammoth or better known yet as dorontabi as im sure most of you have heard, at least im 90% sure this is the same moid. But correct me if I’m wrong 1/?

No. 2481831

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>>2481824
2/? These two memes, the cunny uohh crying face and the brat correction + vein emoji have been unfunny memes in many weebshit communities, mostly in blue archive but also in Arknights and genshin. Also pretty common in vtuber communities. I think most people don’t know the real origins of these, as in they haven’t seen how nasty the og tweets are, but lolipedos definitely know which is why they like parroting it. But the memes have gotten popular with faggots who don’t even know what they’re saying and are just repeating stuff they’ve heard. I know a retarded scrote who claimed that he said this out of irony, but he’s also a blue archive fan so I call bullshit

No. 2481832

>>2481409
>Nippon moids call anything underage or child like loli
This is blatantly untrue why are you lying. Loli is about body type, not age. Thats why the whole 5000 year old vampire trope exists.

No. 2481839

File: 1744488563177.jpeg (Spoiler Image,2.15 MB, 1179x2677, IMG_8244.jpeg)

>>2481831
3/3 now onto dorontabi itself. I highly recommend reading these two threads that contain most info:
https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1885174380499718488
https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1906053685333131326
Basically he is a Korean pedophile, like real pedophile as in he has Japanese gravure type content of little girls and uses it as reference for his drawings. He was an official artist for blue archive, specifically the anime and I think all he’s done was just draw an official illustration for them. His accounts have gotten suspended many times. So that’s why I’ve always hated these retarded pedo memes and everyone who repeats them, because they were already unfunny and pedoshit but the moid behind them is an unironic literal pedo who wants to rape kids, which is something that most people who parrot these probably don’t know.
Those type of weeb fans are ultra subhuman anyway so I don’t expect them to care. They’d probably agree with his sentiments if anything

No. 2481859

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>>2481839
4/4 Sorry, wanted to add onto these posts again. So it turns out that not only does he have softcore porn of little kids but he straight up most likely has cp, which isn’t really surprising I guess. This can be found in the thread I linked, but here is the particular tweet: https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1906350908671434940
He made a porn parody that looks a lot like a darkweb video of a girl getting raped by her teacher, many similarities between the video and the comic he made

No. 2481872

>>2481859
Fucking despicable. Thank you for letting us know anon, I'd heard about the "uoh" thing but not any of this other stuff. The fact that these creatures walk among us…

No. 2481876

>>2481859
nta This is something I wish I could have forgotten, but we live in a time where the most depraved people leave permanent imprints on our cultures. Thanks, internet.

No. 2481878

>>2481859
First time a callout thread like this has made me sick to my stomach jfc that's disgusting

No. 2481881

>>2481878
Oh you sweet, precious nona. How I yearn for ignorance as pure as your own. This shit is a dime a dozen; eastern moids are whole 'nother tier of fucked up.

No. 2481885

>>2481832
Loli refers to minors under 18 period, that's toddlers to highschoolers. But you know what, let me stop there and assume you're baiting/trolling.

No. 2481888

>>2481396
Weebs in the west use loli to strictly refer to middle schoolers and under but in real world Japan it extends to highschoolers too. I don't know what to tell you.

No. 2481890

>>2481859
>>2481839
>>2481831
I feel physically ill… i fucking despise moids

No. 2481892

>>2481876
We also might live in a time preceding a mobile app that alerts users when known pedos are nearby, who are permanently micro-chipped (using tech that would not be controversial at all in korea, china or japan - known sex pest/nonce countries). The more brazen they get, the more incentive digital privacy companies will have to market that to literally everyone else (since other pedos are predictable and will install the app to seem less suspicious). Moids always believe they're all ~bros~ until they're psy-opped by other moids into never starting families or becoming a future neo-exile
https://www.local3news.com/local-news/what-the-tech-doj-releases-app-with-database-of-registered-sex-offenders/article_0c1f09f8-9600-11ef-a938-0ff46f8c57bd.html (2024)
https://scholarship.law.unc.edu/ncjolt/vol20/iss5/5/ (2020)

No. 2481932

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>>2481824
Kinda ot but minus8 (another Korean coom artist) also once posted on a Korean website something related to picrel. These guys are all the same

No. 2481935

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sorry for the art vent, nonas. I draw a lot for free, for friends, etc. and have had personal accounts for over two decades. I've never had any real attention over my work on these types of sites, I mostly go underground and ignored. But recently, a friend of mine had started posting my art that I've made for the OCs as apart of their profile. And that person has been getting a wave of compliments for the artwork. I just feel really weird about it. It's his OC, so I don't want to seem like I'm overstepping by saying I'm not comfortable with having my stuff shown. How do nonas deal with having their stuff public at all? He's not an artist, so I'd feel kinda mean by saying he can't use it, it is his character, after all. And it's not necessarily that I'm uncomfortable with someone using it, just that it's being seen. But why do I even feel this way, why do I feel so strongly about it? god I'm cooked.

No. 2481944

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>>2481935
I am the same so I can't tell you a way to deal with it, my only advice is to ask that the art doesn't get credited to you if you haven't already.

No. 2481966

>>2481839
See this is why I cant take the lolicons "its fiction not reality" argument seriously when they use a meme originating from an actual CSEM-owning pedo, and support that suggestive vocaloid song using yuki (voice bank voiced by a 9 year old) from a few weeks ago

No. 2481973

>>2481966
Word. Never trust lolicons. After years of browsing 4chan, anytime there’s a thread where discussion is mostly about lolishit there’s almost always moids who talk about real life children and how much they’re attracted to them like on /a/ or /b/. They always talk about how girls ages 14 or something is peak attractive level and some of them boasting their country’s age of consent, claiming they dated teenagers and it was totally legal. It always turns pedo very fast, like I wish some moids truly were just attracted to cartoons which is still disgusting but they just also couldn’t help themselves by talking about real life young girls too

No. 2481975

>>2481966
As soon as you realise a huge swath of lolicon art is directly referencing child gravure and many lolicons will consume that it makes all their arguments immediately crumble.

No. 2482047

>>2481935
You feel that way because something you made is being shown to the largely unfamiliar public that could do whatever it wants with it. You can definitely tell your friend not to repost your work. It is his oc but it's not his drawing. Say art is too personal to you and that you don't feel comfortable having it out there. If he respects your work at all he'll stop

No. 2482063

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>>2481412
>ayrt Yoo you're right. I mixed her up with PonderSprocket.
Haha thought so, no prob. Thankfully Ponder isn't really a cow though she's come close a few times. She hasn't been all that active in a while though ever since some Discord drama was abuzz (more info about that in the art commentary community thread)
>This shit is mad hilarious. I now have something to watch for the next couple of days.
Yeah it's pretty stupid though keep in mind, this stuff mostly gets espoused on her Twitch, not YouTube. But if you have the tolerance and don't mind listening to dumb shit being spouted, she can be entertaining to listen to as background noise. Personally the only time I "nope" out of listening to them is when she blathers on about troon & gendie crap. Or I get tired of her trying to be all "how do you do fellow kids" by trying to talk like a zoomer with their slang (she says "raw-dog" a lot… Ew.)

>>2481416
Yeah it's pretty gnarly isn't it? To be fair, I'm pretty sure that was a commission but still, the quality speaks for itself kek. And with quality like this, this is why I'm not too surprised that she hasn't been able to make a living doing her art or that her artist alley sales can be very hit/miss.

>>2481507
>Bumps on lineart makes her look like a cactus
>Butthole lips
I kek'd more than I should've but spot on. Like said, I'm pretty sure it was a commission so whoever made that has poor taste but Michie's overall style just lacks true style because of her wonky ass proportions that she tries to excuse with the "my style" argument. I get that she's trying to go for a cartoon style and I personally like cartoony styles myself but her take on it is just an eyesore and needs refinement.

No. 2482091

>>2481643
At least he's giving money to artists and it's not child porn….? (The bar is at the undersoil)

No. 2482186

>>2481859
>>2481839
>>2481831
>>2481824
You couldve just looked up his name here and link the old thread where this was discussed more in detail than to repost these again

No. 2482192

>>2481105
This looks like a family guy character.

No. 2482268

>>2481643
this is the type of people AI should pander to.

No. 2482310

>>2482186
right, the additional photos of the cp victim was completely unnecessary for the information that was already mentioned in the previous threads. fucking grim

No. 2482312

>>2481676
ZackScottGames is a youtuber who just has a seriously crazy fetish for Elephant Daisy from Super Mario Wonder.

No. 2482472

It is absolutely hilarious to me whenever someone, usually a beginner, starts talking to me about how well adjusted and familiar with their screen tablet they are.
>Yeah. I just got a -insert large USD amount- screen tablet the other day to go with my -insert paid subscription program-. It's really necessary to draw anything.
>Art looks like absolute horse shit and it's clear they didn't even look at fundamentals or know how to hold a pencil.
Immediately they assume I have one too, and I'm like "lol no I use a Intuos small tablet." The way they try to backpeddal into why their hyper expensive waste of money isn't REALLY crucial to art or can't swallow the fact that some broke people can draw decently with what they have is insane. I know these tablets could do good in the hands of someone else but holy shit the crutch and cope I'm witnessing again and again.

No. 2482473

File: 1744307659453.jpeg (2.25 MB, 2153x3831, IMG_8258.jpeg)

This stupid artist and her obsession with giving all her works that dumb O mouth shape, she literally can’t stop kek

No. 2482478

>>2482063
jesus christ that art is ugly. Everything about it. Vivzie fandom is a cancer

No. 2482489

>>2482473
I hate generic animu girl art so much

No. 2482491

>>2482473
Thats like the worst expression somebody could get obsessed with
>>2481643
weird but hes paying the artists so whatever

No. 2482540

>>2482489
What should she draw instead?

No. 2482549

>>2482473
Jesus christ, this is slop. It looks like she only references from her own art.

No. 2482566

>>2482473
This is the type artists ai wants to replace

No. 2482657

>>2482472
I have been eyeing a screen tablet (a cheap-ish xpen) because I tried it at someone's place and it was so comfortable to draw in, but it surprises me when I see big and good artists post photos of their workspace and see they use blind tablet, I assume everyone switches to screen ones after a certain point haha.
I have even heard some artists switching back to blind because often it's better for their posture. But also saw others mention they had to get a screen one because the intuos was hindering their progress a bit, I guess it depends on the person.

Your case reminds me of the copic baggers back then, they all thought their art was better for using alcohol markers when they had shit color palettes and didn't even blend, a crayola set would've sufficed for their level.

No. 2482669

>>2482549
It looks imbred but theres such much tiktok artists who want to have this exact art style and I dont get it.

No. 2482674

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>>2481932
I hate minus8 with every fiber of my being. Hes a scrote who sexualizes everything that moves. The people who watch his porn and him also actually need to be taken out back

No. 2482676

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>>2482669
It all started from Matcha and tiktok alphatards call it "cream soda" artstyle

No. 2482678

>>2482674
>Hes a scrote who sexualizes everything that moves
That's just every single rule 34 artist

No. 2482685

>>2481932
Wait, isn't he a self-admitted pedophile?

No. 2482688

>>2481034
Sucks how cute I find this, especially the Tiana. The Ariel is nice too. I agree the drawings do come across as suggestive if you're familiar with anime tropes but the designs themselves are actually pretty good and would look innocent (Jasmine aside) drawn by a different person in a different art style so long as their intentions were innocent.

No. 2482690

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>>2482676
Matchas art was good albeit, but now theres been so much people trying to replicate it on tiktok because of the trend and they look so deformed. Look at this picture kekk.

No. 2482702

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>>2482690
Samefag, Also If youre a beginner artist, you are so much better off trying to learn your own artstyle than being a crappy offbrand from an original idea. After you get the basics done, THEN you can incorporate some elements. Because not only will it be painfully obvious, Youre just wasting your time trying to copy every mannerisms of the first artist but you never really have to knowledge to understand why its drawn like that. People who do stuff like pic rel are profoundly retarded. Speaking from experience.

No. 2482716

>>2482685
Yeah he's been pretty open about it

No. 2482717

>>2482702
Nta but how do artists like Matcha choose basic colors? Like, she picks from the wheel or abuse effects?

No. 2482743

>>2482702
Idk it's helpful to understand how artist use certain techniques once you reach a point where your art feels…idk like the accent equivalent of lacking a style? I feel like the stuff I make feels very bland in a way I can't describe like it feels under baked. Then I see this and I feel even more like shit.

No. 2482758

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>>2482743
Some of you need to learn colour theory and it shows, matchacha's colouring and rendering is not that complicated it's a simple progression of warm > cool > warm > cool in mid value colours.

No. 2482790

>>2482702
I'm all for taking notes on an artists style but this is overkill. All that time they spent handwriting they could have spent actually testing out what they've observed to see if what they've written was even correct kek. Waste more time idiot

No. 2482794

>>2482657
>copic baggers
ayrt That is EXACTLY it! I knew it was making me mad for a reason. It's a repeat of this. I remember using cheap color pencils and in came the tards with their high end ones but refused to draw anything that wasn't poorly mimicked anime. Even in art class.
Gonna pretend tbat Pay-To-Win games are inspired by these people kek

No. 2482803

>>2482717
Genuinely go on bilibili and search "上色教程". Her coloring method is the most generic chinese artist method and theres tons of videos on there on how to do it

No. 2482807

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No. 2482809

>>2482676
I am grateful that I don't have a style and am sticking to mimicking shit from 20 years ago.

No. 2482811

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>>2482763
And? They're still midtones and still alternating between cool and warm (and her colours aren't that pastel, maybe just the bckgrounds and some lighting). Work smarter not harder, if you have to write paragraphs breaking down a very simple method then I think you need to learn more art theory in general.

No. 2482819

>>2482685
Yeah and it was hilarious when the sharty doxxed him tbh

No. 2482821

>>2482702
>Fuck fundies I will base my entire learning experience on one person's stylization.
Dedication. Autism. My notes on style mimicry isn't even this deep. At some point you gotta go "apply common sense here", but that might be why me doing stuff like copying Sugimori's 90s style comes out less accurate.

No. 2482831

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>>2482811
but her coloring stands out from other generic popular anime artists

No. 2482836

>>2482811
nta Isn't muted a better way to describe it? I have no idea who this chick is.

No. 2482849

>>2482831
Not really. I think even the infamous glip coloured like that at one point.
>>2482836
Much better way kek, it completely slipped my tongue.

No. 2482896

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I’m so glad I wasn’t born a moid, especially the type of moid artist obsessed with shonen. Everything they create feels so boring to me, just soulless, derivative, and devoid of genuine emotion in the characters and storytelling. No amount of style and over-the-top expressions can save shit uninteresting writing

No. 2482906

>>2482896
So if I make an action series I might get cancelled for it?

No. 2482919

>>2482896
Yeah I agree, I tried watching Jujutsu, demon slayer, etc, and I wanted to die of boredom. Ill always love dbz and hxh though

No. 2482924

>>2482758
What about the style part? I know art style doesn't matter but it feels like the stuff I draw feels derivative of something else instead standing as it's own.

No. 2482927

>>2482919
Demon slayer is created and written by a woman.

No. 2482929

>>2482927
The post I replied to said nothing about only shonen by men…?

No. 2482932

>>2482927
Was that even confirmed?

No. 2482935

>>2482906
Action series with decent or at least engaging writing exist, the moids I complained about are aping the shallowest aspects of shounen manga with none of the substance. But if bad uninteresting writing applies to your story then at worst people would ignore it, assuming you’re an artist making a webcomic

No. 2482983

>>2482935
I wanna make a psychological horror webcomic/novel with action, gore, and my fetish for pathetic white collar men secretly being beast. But, I know damn well only men would read it ignoring the lack of male aimed fanservice or deeper emotional themes between all the blood and guts…maybe this might never come out kek.

No. 2483013

>>2482983
>horror action
>pathetic white collar men
rest in peace to the masterpiece i would never see

No. 2483051

>>2482983
> secretly being beast
Do you mean literal beasts such as werewolves or something, or beast as in the powerful and or savage animalistic personality?

No. 2483056

>>2483051
This might sound retarded but more like genetic experiments spliced with animal dna? He's still like one just not completely wolf. Mostly like a wolfman with a tail. I thought people wouldn't like him as a humanoid beast so, that's what my mind settled on. Why did I bring this up?

No. 2483110

what does everybody do for warm up routines? Which ones do you feel like are the most helpful? How long do you usually spend warming up?

No. 2483113

>>2483056
Based, furries can go fuck themselves

No. 2483117

>>2483113
I don't really care who likes it but tbh, I wouldn't be surprised.

No. 2483120

>>2482924
nta Humans are directly affected by their experiences. This is something you will never escape. Sometimes it's subconscious though.
In reference to >>2482743 you might want to experiment. At this point, steal palettes from images you absolutely think do it right. If a picture you come across makes tou go
>woah, I love the colors here
take time to study it! We have the rate the art thread too, and the nonas there are pretty gentle with critique. (just dont post anything self-identifiable)
>>2482919
DBZ is written by a comedy type guy so maybe it having humor and silliness mixed in (like Piccolo wearing a hat) helps with the dogshit pacing? Or nostalgia goggles? I'm still trying to figure out why DBZ and HxH do it for me too. Very fun and fascinating shows.
>>2483056
Did you watch wolfchildren and fall in love with dad or something jfc me too kek
>>2483110
I usually do hand stretches, scribble some lines to wake my senses up (zigzags, hatching, parallel lines, etc) maybe use a gesture drawing site for 15 minutes or until.I start getting antsy, sor I do some thumbnail drawings of scenery. (for digital drawings) For non-digital painting I just sit down with some toast and pray for the best kek

No. 2483130

>>2481014
I saw the one with Tiana and after noticing a kiss mark on her thigh I thought it was weird. There it is >>2481034
>>2482688
I agree. If it really is a woman even more so.

No. 2483205

>>2481124
Wait i think i know this artist, isn't she the one who used to post drawing of depressed anime girls on tumblr?? I think shes Polish.

No. 2483228

File: 1744355415755.jpg (551.55 KB, 1679x1930, sakimichan.jpg)

Sakimichan
>hasn’t posted on her main twitter/patreon since beginning of year
>still posting frequently on her side twitter/patreon dedicated to drawing porn of men (mostly LADs)
Is she finally ditching her moid audience and focusing on pandering to women?? Her art isn’t my thing still but I support the idea of it kek

No. 2483233

>>2483228
She's lucky she has had a long career and made so much money prior to the advent of AI slop. I'm guessing demand from coomer moids has dropped since her style is easily generated by AI. Now she can just say "fuck it" and focus on drawing men instead.

No. 2483235

>>2483228
I'm biased because I'm a LADs fan, but I feel like her LADs art is generally of better quality and she seems to have more fun drawing for it

No. 2483261

sakimichan and kukumomo are both pickmes who draw pedoshit scenarios for moids for their money and can get fucked. Even if they change idgaf. Women who pander to the wost men in a fandom are honorary scrotes who don't deserve my time

No. 2483263

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>>2483261
Also the most retarded shit I have ever seen in my life like picrel. She got obsessed with drawing this mentally ill gendie mpreg ntr roidpig rape nonsense. Imagine wasting such talent on trash like this

No. 2483264

>>2483263
>gendie mpreg ntr roidpig rape
damn i knew she drew coomslop but i was out of the loop to know this, kinda smart of sakimi to monetize every pornrotted group fujos,yumes,yuri and moids

No. 2483265

>>2483263
I've seen enough zelda fanart over the years to know that there are in fact women who like ganondorf. I've also never seen a man give a singular fuck about sidon either.

No. 2483269

>>2483265
What are you trying to say?

No. 2483272

>>2483263
I never followed her closely because I just assumed her art is all like this: soulless coomer brainrot. It's hard to believe she was making six figures a year off this crap. Is that still the case? I just assume AI crap has likely made a dent in her earnings.

No. 2483277

>>2482702
>i genuinely do not know how to render clothes/fabric. i swear i will learn how to do it eventually lol. the structure of [???] are very complex and follow principles i have yet to understand. but i think i'll work it out

how is this studying? it's really hard to read her writing but i can't imagine the rest is more useful. she's clearly written all this to give the illusion of being a productive artist on tiktok

No. 2483278

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>>2483269
I'm trying to say that I don't think it's pickme behavior to draw two characters that are popular with certain kinds of women in scenarios that, historically, women frequently create media centered around. I guess you could claim monster fucker/beauty and the beast type stories are male fantasies made to brainwash women, but that would ring as untrue
to me. Are fishmen and evil kings not super common fantasy romance tropes? You might as well tell me that harlequin novels featuring hunky aloof brooding men are made so women can seem more attractive to dudes by reading them, it just doesn't make any sense.

No. 2483283

>>2477324
my mom used to pay an artist for this stuff, super easy abstract stuff with an om symbol in the middle or using colors that represent a certain chakra idk
you can probably shit out a painting like that in 30 minutes and charge 200 bucks for it. maybe more, but that's what she paid

No. 2483293

>>2483278
If you were born in 1970 maybe. You're not going to convince me that what I am looking at is anything other than the same kind of souless coomer slop men make of gigantic guy and uwu dainty girl

No. 2483304

>>2483293
NTA but many women still read Harlequinn sexy pirate/cowboy/feral man bodice rippers

No. 2483355

>>2483228
Best character arc of the 2020a

No. 2483369

>>2483261
So if I use to draw goonbait for men and then pivoted to drawing sexy men, I'm a bad person according to your logic?

No. 2483379

>>2483265
As a Ganondorf fan, I am pretty sure the only people that like pregnant Link or genderbent Link x Sidon are in fact moids. Saw a handful of my internet moid friends troon out because of ntr Link or femboy Link getting railed by Sidon or Ganondorf unfortunately.

No. 2483388

what do you think of artists who paywall their porn then complain when it's leaked on other sites?

No. 2483416

We live in an age where everyone thinks everything should be free. Whining and complaining will do nothing but direct more people to look for it.

That said, I'm less sympathetic when it's an artist already making a ton of money off their work.

If it's some ai slop prompter, they deserve it.

No. 2483420

>>2483388
Silly. Commend them for qalling it off, but to not expect pornsick creatures to spread it amongst others is peak comedy. There are boorus and such that have a blacklist thing (presuming they'd get sued if anyone posts a blacklisted artist), so I'm surprised they wouldn't do that as their first action.

No. 2483421

>>2482702
The problem with this is that all this handwriting is for showing other people. Practice these techniques and show up with an aped or improved style. Not .. this. The notes on folds there on the side is utterly retarded. If she learned how to draw clothes instead of trying to ape a style that wouldn't even be on there. People do these "style studies" while thinking that normal things like drawing in pencil and shading are part of a "style". The overgranulation rather than just drawing studies is nothing but it's own type of crutch.

No. 2483428

>>2483421
nta Fascinating angle. I never thought that stealing a style was a crutch. Maybe it is for newer generation artists, beginners even? I have been going back to mimic artists from the 90s and my childhood where I looked up to the styles th artists moved on from, to generate new things for my own amusement. It's strange to see artists skinwalk someone who is active with a specific artstyle.
I remember sexyrobutts or whatever having a skinwalker that posted stolen and altered work merely a day after him? I'm not good with names but it was very… strange.

No. 2483503

>>2483388
I can understand the frustration, but everyone knows porn goes to image agretation sites 80% of the time, they should accept that fact and just be grateful people are paying them.
I have seen artists who treat their patreon as early access and/or a way to let supporter decide which characters to draw & I think that's a good middle ground.

No. 2483520

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>>2482478
Yeah her Vivziepop fanart looks wonky, picrel kek (What did she do to Millie lol)

No. 2483543

>>2483520
she loves to abuse that symmetry tool…

No. 2483692

>>2483428
Same anon you replied to. I think for newer artists it must be. I definitely style studied 2 famous artists I was in love with, I collect both their works and if I told you I liked them you'd know it if you saw my art. The difference is that I've worked in my own interests and fascinations to develop my own style with elements of what I love about theirs and it's nothing to do with aesthetics or weird style granulations. I'm an old nonna (late 30s) so my influences are also older leaning and I don't use social media so I'm not saturated in that type of scene. I do feel like it's a crutch for newer artists who are entrenched in the social media art scene though because they throw out everything else for the sake of style. Often times there may be some like for the style but it also feels influenced by what's popular and what they want to project rather than some style they genuinely like and want to work hard to fold into what they already do. It's more skin walking than using elements that they want in their art.

No. 2483693

>>2483520
The jaw shape is insane. This is gross

No. 2483767

>>2483420
Danbooru doesn't allow leaked paid content

No. 2483776

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>>2483543
She really does. I see her streams and she uses the symmetry tool like it's oxygen. It's all part of her "work smarter, not harder" motto she loves to say from time to time and sure, the symmetry tool can be useful but relying on it as much as she does is just sad and I don't think she realizes how emphasizes her lack of refinement.

>>2483693
Yeah. It's unfortunate because whenever she does fanart of anything, it always looks wonky or just unappealing to the eye outside of her few fans who seem to love it. Look at how Courage the Cowardly Dog turned out in her style…

No. 2483789

>>2483369
That's purity culture in a nutshell. You can never redeem yourself in the eyes of people who've already decided what kind of person you are based off of if they personally like your content, so why even bother? Draw whatever the hell you want, there's no point in catering to
those who'll never accept you.

No. 2483871

>>2483767
I guess that anon was just giving a random site example from top of her head, but there are sites that allow leaked paid content (or if they don't, they don't seem enforce that rule, I have seen patron stuff) like the rule34 twin sites

No. 2483888

>>2483789
Not defending sakimichan or anything but she clearly had more heart in drawing yaoi and hot men than she ever had drawing moidy coombait. Why is it bad to draw what you love after years of pandering to an audience that would abandon you the moment something shinier arrives? I feel the same way now that AI has more or less demolished the male gooner demographic.

No. 2484003

>>2483228
honestly her female art always felt so incredibly soulless, whereas her male art felt like she acutally had a modicum of fun drawing it. good for her she deserves it. redemption arc

No. 2484025

>>2483263
This looks so shit, I thought it was AI
>>2483272
probably, it's just porn but even then I'm pretty sure there's coomers that care about what made their fapping material. As weird as that is.

No. 2484028

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I’m reorganizing old art files I have saved on my computer and came across this pic I saved years ago. I remember thinking these footnotes were weird back when I saved them and five years later yup, they are just as trashy as I remember. These were from an animator so other members of this project (which was canceled too iirc) would read these notes.
>her wrist is thinner than will’s dick I guess
>to all staff
>don’t forget that every guys [characters?] this film has like to fuck her. Don’t draw her like a child totally
Why are moids like this? There’s also a bunch of Japanese notes found in more images, wouldn’t be surprised if more disgusting stuff was written in them.

No. 2484039

>>2483888
I agree with you. That was more in response to not caring if someone thinks you're a pickme whore if you draw big breasts or huge pecs.
Sakimichan should draw what she feels like drawing and not care if others think lesser of her for it.

No. 2484130

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Sorry for showing Genshin nonas but I do have a question about this. The fandom (as usual) was complaining about this design a few days ago and I'm quite curious why? I've seen art with similar designs like this and I wonder why it's a big issue. Unless it's a non-issue like always lol

No. 2484163

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kek, is this person overreacting? since it’s artfight most people would realize that this isn’t their oc right

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No. 2484168

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>>2484165
i’d be grateful to get an attack this detailed from someone on artfight and wouldn’t really care if the artist didn’t mention me when they post it on their socmed. id just quote the tweet or reply with “that’s my oc! thank you so much again for drawing her!!”
don’t know why this chap is so overprotective

No. 2484171

>>2484163
Obviously overreacting. I've literally had this happen to me, or i do this to other people. Nobody actually cares, she just wishes she got the attention for it.

No. 2484184

>>2484163
She is. And the fact that she wants the artwork to be taken down over this is so stupid.

No. 2484189

File: 1744416830883.jpg (52.92 KB, 735x906, 8be1cdd9923f9b7236c28f3ce996c9…)

Art nonnies! Please don't laugh at me I'm not a professional

I used a few characters as reference for an OC but one specific character stands out since they share some similarities and I really love their design. People keep thinking my OC is related this specific reference character as in it's a fanart.

How can I make my very unoriginal OC less less like a ripoff?

No. 2484191

>>2484168
>named "alastair"
>huge attention whore
checks out

No. 2484193

File: 1744417071850.png (1.18 MB, 2859x3344, 1SePNAXiktqLgCgp68X7MEZsHGdN6n…)

>>2484163
why even participate if you don't want other people drawing your oc…i feel like it's expected people will upload the art to their socials. they only care because it blew up and probably got more attention than any other shit they've made with their oc.

i don't even think it's a problem if they replied like 'hey btw that's my oc' instead of being like 'ummm big yikes my guy!!!! delete this NOW' and coming off as antagonistic right off the bat. also picrel is their character. gross.

No. 2484245

>>2484163
kek this person is obviously just seething that when a good artist draws their ugly oc it gets tons of likes. just crashing out in the replies due to overwhelming jealousy, humiliating

No. 2484246

>>2484245
It's an insane overreaction. Replying to the tweet with a thank you and a friendly clarification would've sufficed. I'd be disappointed if I drew for this entitled little asshole. It's good fucking art, shit. Plug your ocs on that good art and get more followers I don't get what the problem is KEK

No. 2484257

>>2483692
ayrt That is an absolutely good point.
>Often times there may be some like for the style but it also feels influenced by what's popular and what they want to project rather than some style they genuinely like and want to work hard to fold into what they already do. It's more skin walking than using elements that they want in their art.
This better illustrates for me what a lot of anons in this thread have mentioned in passing offhandedly. "Being obsessed with style is retarded" used to strike me as something weird to say, since we all have a part of someone else's art we were attracted to. But knowing this particular detail is implied now, I understand fully. Hopefully for them it is a fad, something that allows them the first steps into art (basic shapes, understanding volume, hand-eye coordination, line control), but I have spoken to some artists (young, inexperienced) online who needed help. I mentioned they needed to borrow from reality to help with drawing fiction and always got snapped at as a result. Typically
>The pose is too stiff on real people! I like how the referenced art does it more.
And it's broken, anatomically… logically..

No. 2484261

>>2484246
yes nona exactly. all this retard had to do was comment “thank you so much for drawing my oc!” and it would’ve resulted exactly how she wanted 10x better

No. 2484276

>>2484163
I understand their emotions over it, but it could've been handled a lot better, rather than being petty over the lack of character credit.
>post reply underneath the art
>"This is my OC (name) that I was super grateful to get art of! If you want to know more about them, follow me! posts several more images of their OC
It could've been that simple.

But maybe I'm wrong, and they handled it properly, because their complaint has over 15K likes.

No. 2484307

>>2484276
Your approach would have easily rerouted traffic to the person's profile (bonus points if their art was dogwater) without issue. This is insane.

No. 2484311

>>2484163
All this does is make people not want to deal with you in future, my god she's a retard.

No. 2484318

>>2484246
> I'd be disappointed if I drew for this entitled little asshole.
word, the art is amazingly rendered with a background too, that’s pretty much the most you could ask for in artfight. too bad op drew for an insane ungrateful karen

No. 2484332

>>2484163
These responses are so excessive and knee jerk. The artist didn't get attention because of their grunge teenager OC they got attention because the art is very good. If anything it was the strange creature OC that got the attention.

No. 2484353

>>2483233
Yeah the engagement on her old patreon compared to her male focused one is like night and day. Which makes me wonder if she pivoted because she really wanted to go back to drawing men or because she needed a new source of income now that the gooners aren't as interested anymore. Not knocking her either way though I'm glad she dropped that plasticy artstyle she had like in >>2483263
>>2484261
But handling things rationally wouldn't get them any attention. Though I haven't done artfight so I don't know the rules around posting art of other peoples characters.

No. 2484429

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are there any not professional drawing programs for animation nonnies recommend? When i wanted to animate some years ago everybody recommended toonboom but i ended up using fire alpaca anyways kek

No. 2484508

>>2483228
She goes where the money is. She might like drawing men more, but she's definitely not doing it for enjoyment. I've seen her porn featuring men and it is the most unsexy shit imaginable. She doesn't have a sensual bone in her body. She only makes erotic art for the money.

No. 2484510

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>no idea what to draw
>no will to draw
>hate my art which also makes me not want to draw
send help please I don't want my art to get even worse from not drawing for like a month

No. 2484512

>>2484276
The complaint has 15k likes bc twidiots love drama. None of those tards are going to follow her.

No. 2484521

>>2484429
My friend does animated commissions and she uses Krita. She loves it!

No. 2484533

>>2484510
It kind of sounds like it's simply not your thing. At least right now

No. 2484535

>>2484429
clipstudio cracked of course kek and opentoonz is good (but very complicated as most nipponese softwares are but its used in the industry)

No. 2484538

>>2484533
I used to try to do studies daily and I usually enjoy art idk why I lost interest in actually doing it rn.

No. 2484541

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>>2484510
Sometimes you just need a break for a little while. That does not mean give up as a whole, do some research into art and artists in the time you would normally draw, specfically ones that align to your interests may help. If you like history you could look at the art and techniques of your favourite periods, or you could look at architecture, or biological illustration or botany or fashion etc.

No. 2484583

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Repost from bad short comics thread. I Figured this fit better here.

No. 2484585

>>2484583
I mean, nothing to say about this that hasn't already been said in that thread.

No. 2484618

>>2484583
What about this captivated you enough to repost it? It's a harmless comic about being nice to people

No. 2484852

>>2484510
Whenever my brain shits up like this I just redraw art of artists that are worse than me and put it in some super hidden folder since posting it online is a dick move. Great confidence exercise.

No. 2484929

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>>2484130
Same anon, I found this as well and I'm still confused. Are we not suppose to use designs like this? I really don't get it at all.

No. 2484936

>>2484929
tbf it is a shitty Arabized design (this same design has drawn 10 million times by korean shitty game artists) but i dont really care that much plus the feather on the turban was mostly used by indian sultans not arab sultans. genshitfags will literally cry over everything in their shitty goon slop gacha

No. 2484957

>>2484936
and yet keep playing it? genshintards are the fucking worst they way they screech about every aspect of the game that they willingly sink hundreds of dollars and hours into. either play it or don't jfc

No. 2484962

>>2484957
Tell them to use that money to buy actual games and they'll look at you like you killed their grandma.

No. 2484971

>>2484957
They couldn't even boycott the game for that long so I have low hope for them anyways lol.

No. 2484991

>>2484929
I'm actually super confused what they're pressed about.

No. 2484993

>>2484991
smth smth "bellydancer outfits are orientalist and racist"

No. 2484995

>>2484193
So…a man? He also looks like he smells bad. They always draw the same ocs. It's obvious tumblr/twt brainrot.

No. 2485107

>>2484936
>>2484957
Why are you acting as if that design wasn't a fan thing

No. 2485158

>>2484189
Try using the Rate My Art thread in /m/.

No. 2485215

>>2484618
You're right and you should say it, I don't get why this is supposed to be bad? It's easy to become isolated in modern society, we don't comment on art as much as we used to in the prime time of places like deviantart, we're just used to resharing speaking for itself and becoming distant from friends is easy.

No. 2485315

>>2483369
Imagine having such a lack of integrity you even pander to pedo scrotes in the first place

No. 2485317

>>2484993
They are tho. It comes from seeing middle eastern women as nothing but sexual objects for white men to fetishize and "conquer"

No. 2485321

>>2484929
imagine if they knew that nazi uniforms were a trend in the early 2000s

No. 2485323

>>2485315
>Imagine having such a lack of integrity
nta This is a take that non-artists usually adhere to strangely enough. People can't just abrakadabra popularity out of thin air. Skill level be damned. A lot of artists have to stick to what sells. And as every non-troglodyte understands
sex sells.
People who have no stake in the art industry as sellers or anything beyond mere hobbyists who "draw for themselves" typically cannot emphasize with this fact because they don't take it seriously at all. It's complicated, sad, and necessary for some. nb4
>Get an actual job instead and make art a side hussle.
As stated in previous threads, this is not always a viable option for everyone. Some people have heinous disabilities or live in situations where they simply can't and only have art to support them.

No. 2485331

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>>2484929
Do they not know that male belly dancers are real? Is an indian man from India participating in orientalism? Spoilered for 3DPD
>>2485317
It's kind of complicated because of its history, and definitely too complicated for Genshitters to comment on and condemn while playing a game that does the exact same thing

No. 2485349

>>2485323
Don't you find it kind of hypocritical to post on a board that hates troons and then use the same backwards logic as them to explain stuff like this? You even pulled out the "disabled people" card

No. 2485353

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I hate him so much. This is just a lonely self-absorbed softboy who pretends to be liberal because he’s trying to manifest pity from hot women. “Gay”? You’d never draw yourself being forced to draw yaoi by ugly fujos ir gay men. This is agp fantasy shit. He’s going to troon out any day now.

No. 2485354

>>2485353
As if you need to force a straight man to draw lesbian hentai

No. 2485359

>>2485353
I like this as a thread pic for the positivity or future predictions thread

No. 2485365

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plx twitter more of this guys art of cute moegirlfriends pictured directly from his psychosis induced dreams

No. 2485366

>>2485365
You might as well post this in a troon thread. He's probably ~crypto~ rn

No. 2485368

>>2485353
I’m so skeeved out by this, I can’t imagine how actual lesbians feel seeing this, they should be allowed to shoot guys like this on sight

No. 2485385

>>2484130
non-issue. every hot 2d male should have a bellydancing outfit

No. 2485387

>>2485353
>>2485365
Why are so many men, especially artists, on the internet one step away from complete troonery? I’m starting to think AGP in men is as common as having an ass fetish. It’s like part of their natural sexuality. I’m so tired of it. I can’t enjoy art from too many moids knowing they drew it with their filthy AGP fingers.

No. 2485389

It's one thing to market yourself, but I find it off-putting how arrogant and self absorbed a lot of artists are. From highly skilled to mediocre, having confidence is fine but people seem so convinced that the world is looking their way. It's tiresome to sift through the overbearing, cringey or try-hard personality of an artist just to see their art. It puts me off completely.

No. 2485390

>>2485389
I say this as an artist. There's a breed of online artist that is convinced that everything they do is worthy of a broadcast, as if anyone even cares. Post your work and move on.

No. 2485581

>>2485349
ayrt That is a hell of a stretch. Why are you equating anything I said to troon logic? Talking about disabled people automatically makes my argument bullshit? jfc

No. 2485598

>>2485389
>It's tiresome to sift through the overbearing, cringey or try-hard personality of an artist just to see their art. It puts me off completely.
Personally I don't mind them if it's just "positive" confidence, it's the second someone starts whining I can't stand it. "Boohoo my art bad, this one flopped, ugh arthritis be damned" gets so tiring and unprofessional, save the venting for your friends and stop posting it on social media!

No. 2485608

>>2485389
I don't care how good an artist is, if every other post of theirs is insufferable or pretentious I'm not watching them.

No. 2485746

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>>2485353
"Bike-cuck" era changed him.

No. 2485757

>>2485746
This is so rancid

No. 2485764

Tumblr was so simple. I'd just click their #myart tag, and that was it. Didn't have to see any of their personal posts.
How have we regressed in terms of online art consumption, to where even Twitter replacements like Bluesky are just the same Twitter UI.

No. 2485796

>>2485764
To give Bluesky just a tiny bit of credit, the "see post in this tag from [user]" feature is a decent modern equivalent.

No. 2485883

>>2485746
He should do the same for women. Let them enjoy being women while he can’t, thereby increasing the overall happiness of the world. He will suffer a little not being a lesbian while all the lesbians flourish and thrive not having to live in a world with his girlcock in it.

No. 2485973

how many wips do you usually have going a once? how long does an average piece take you? how "dependent" on references are you?

i usually only have one thing going at a time, and if it takes me much longer than one session i'm likely to forget about it or lose steam. i feel a lot of guilt for how little i produce this way. i have a decent mental library to draw without references but i often am unsatisfied with how it turns out, i much prefer finding references that match my mental vision if its possible (hardly ever is). i feel like i can never do "finished" work without being in front of my cintiq with a second screen because of this. are people working off ipads likely drawing while referencing on another device? i love my keyboard shortcuts too much to do that on the go.

No. 2485997

>>2485746
I genuinely want him to die

No. 2486002

>>2485746
He unironically got mindbroken by that meme kek, imagine being mocked so mercilessly by other scrotes that you start on the dark path of he/him lesbianing

No. 2486101

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>>2485973
>how many wips do you usually have going a once?
Like 50. Staring a the same image for an extended period of time drives me nuts, so I'd shelf it for a few days and draw other things. Coming back to the shelf'd thing with a different angle helps me catch errors. …sometimes.
>how long does an average piece take you?
Highly dependant on how much I like the piece. If I love it, within 24 hours. If I dread every bit of it? Maybe a month. I can't count specifically how many hours because I piss time like water and lose track most times.
>how "dependent" on references are you?
Shamefully not very. I can freehand most things but then I start getting antsy if it doesn't look right. I draw kind of like picrel in my head when I sketch so I rely on muscle memory more than photo references unless working on backgrounds. Probably should fix that but I adore drawing from imagination.
My art is probably dogshit but I am in a wonderful fictional world where I can pretend that it is Okay At Best. Still haven't opened up commissions in a hot minute though. A bit unsure on what price my broke-ass audience can afford kek

No. 2486104

>>2485746
Hes going to troon out this year isnt he do it already bikecuck

No. 2486156

Has amateur art become more sexualized? All I see nowadays is tits and ass

No. 2486163

>>2483369
I know this is a days old discussion but yeah, there are definitely things you shouldn't be allowed to come back from. Maybe you disagree on Sakimichan but you definitely have your own line in the sand. Would you take Shadman back if he pivoted to drawing sexy men?

No. 2486183

>>2485323
Pedo moids don't care about artists with the rise of AI so unless you starve yourself and post selfies in pandering cosplay alongside your loli art they're not gonna care about your work. Sex sells, but you can't sell to the group who cares more than anything about getting sperm out of their body because they'll always go towards the quickest fix and you'll be drowned out fast. Learn how to tell a good story and incorporate that into your art instead, comics do so much better for the average artists popularity.

No. 2486217

>>2486156
i think its partially because thats what gets likes on things like twitter, moids will take mediocre furry femboy slop over anything normal no matter the quality

No. 2486252

>>2486156
I think so. People figured out that it's an easy way to chase likes, and the art level needed to appeal to men isn't very high.
Even gay male art is primarily fat guys over muscle guys now. Because drawing muscles requires more anatomy knowledge to look right.

No. 2486398

>>2486252
not into muscle guys/bara but the simplified cartoony style some artist have is sooooo ugly and shitty because when they draw "muscular" bodies it just looks like random lumps where they think muscles go

No. 2486448

>>2485746
What the hell happened to this fag? Is making le quirky relatable comics not enough anymore? Christ.

No. 2486493

>>2485746
I'm betting he comes out as MTF by the end of the year. Just a week or two ago he made that comic about being forced to draw yuri and his artstyle is getting 'cuter'.

No. 2486510

>>2486493
My personal money is on some flavor of enby but I agree that troonery is immenient.

No. 2486517

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>>2486510
any day now

No. 2486520

>>2486517
can he just troon already so we can laugh at him

No. 2486522

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>>2486520
there's more

No. 2486525

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>>2486522
there's a 'catboy' comic and a crossdressing maid cafe comic bc of course there is

No. 2486526

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>>2486525
last one, I'm not spending more time trawling through his comics. I wonder if it's some weird bait or if he's sincere about this stuff.

No. 2486527

>>2486520
>>2486522
>>2486525
I honestly don't think he will, I was really expecting him to initally but now it feels like he'll maybe cross dress once or twice as a "joke" and then chicken out.

No. 2486579

Internet artistry has evolved into what I like to call "faux punk". An epoch of autism creatures, blobslop comics about how much you love your friends, retarded cat memes hastily slapped onto shitty chickenscratch drawings, inoffensive safe edgy jokes, progressive commentary that isnt saying anything actually new or controversial (riot grrrl, kill your abuser), vanilla kink stuff that the author positions as something so innovative its gonna make those dumb cishetetonormative normies go bald from stress. People are allergic to thinking with their own heads, to drawing with their own hands. Everything is rehearsed. Recycled. Turned into neat catchphrases that are vague enough for you to slap them on almost anything. Toxic old man yaoi. Tboy swag. Morally grey. Doomed yuri. Cannibalism as a metaphor for love. Weird girls. You love weird girls, right? Remmember that you are a product. Problematic. Realistic depiction of mental illness. Loving like a dog. Words and phrases get repeated so much that they lose all of their bite. Everytime something new comes out it gets swallowed by the fandom and regugitated into the same sludge theyve all seen before, forced into the same tired tropes. Labels dont have meaning anymore. Artstyles all look the same, vaguely human shaped blobs of bright shapes and colors, and dont forget to slap pronoun pins on it!

No. 2486581

>>2486526
>>2485746
He unironically turned vidrel into reality kek. The cutesy clean art style gives off potential discord groomer vibes

No. 2486594

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>>2486579
You just perfectly described my feeling about current art community but i couldn't find a correct name for it. Another thing is that most twitter artists draw characters with the exact same unfunny recycled memes to death or they just redraw a popular reference from pinterest. Nothing wrong with using references but they don't change anything or put something new so they end up referencing a reference (if this phrasing makes sense)

No. 2486610

>>2486594
I know exactly what you mean. Everything gets forced into the same 3-4 meme templates. Internet art is getting standartized, its morphing into something inoffensive and predictable. Art is meant to stir the pot, to shake those who have not yet been shaken – youd think that internet would be a perfect host for that, but the softness of modern people and orvellian censorhip of social media platforms has killed internet art and desecrated its corpse. Art is no longer shocking. When I scroll through someones portfolio I dont feel anything anymore. Same poses. Same memes. Same tropes. Same "redraw this with your charcters" that are not attached to anything meaningful. Slop, thats the only word that comes to mind. At least the edgy deviantart days had edge to them.

No. 2486636

>>2486579

It's because everything has to be meme-able content or some kind of reference to something. That's what happened to most entertainment. If you look at popular anime, for example, almost everything is a self cannibalized trope of something that's already been iterated on 50 times over. It's one thing to have your influences, but another thing entirely to only have other anime as a frame of reference for creativity. It's like no one has any interests of their own, so there's nothing to say; just pump out the same art and stale memes because they saw it did numbers. As soon as a popular meme starts cropping up I try to mute it if it has a tag.

And of course the people eating all of it up talk about wanting something different, but when something different comes along, it's largely ignored.
It's just healthy to get away from the internet art scene at large. At this point, I retreated from it. I don't even go to many artist alleys anymore because it's just more internet meme art that's leaked into meatspace.

No. 2486715

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>>2486579
I agree with this entire post. However, let's play devil's advocate for a second.
Is this any different from the deviantart y2k scene? Cat face emotes, rawrXD!!, socially retarded behaviors, super bright colors on furry characters, poorly written attempts at anime drawings, emo backstory characters, long lost sibling of canon characters…
Hasn't this song and dance been playing on repeat already?

No. 2486729

>>2486579
I understand what you're saying but it's also that things become popular.
The internet is bigger than it used to be 10 years ago, people are doing what they've always done and use ways to signal to the outside world their group preferences or "tribe". People in the same tribe will copy each other so you end up seeing the same art meme until it dies.

But also some of the stuff you point out like "morally grey" i think was a desire to see change in art but people were afraid to vocalise it until someone did, now it's everywhere. Same with "media literacy" even though you didn't mention it, it probably fits in.

No. 2486737

>>2486579
Love this post

No. 2486742

>>2486594
Not to be weird but do you lack a sense of humor? Do any nonnas have a sense of humor here?

No. 2486747

>>2486742
Perhaps? Redrawing forced stock memes for the millionth time is not humor

No. 2486750

>>2486742
twitter humor isnt funny

No. 2486755

>>2486742
I do admit that some of the art memes floating around make me laugh. I still cackle whenever I see the drip Goku meme. But I also have the same sense of humor as a toddler.
The Invincible OC meme isn't funny though. Most capeshit stuff just makes me irritated.

No. 2486797

>>2486715
I like this art style

No. 2486809

>>2486715
There was always trend-chasers, and people just enjoying the internet culture, but I think algorithms and purity culture made things worse. There was still some individualism left before.

Now people are overtly obsessed with being relevant, and at the same time are socially conditioned to not step out of line.
In the DA y2k scene, majority of artists had galleries, now an artist's goal is to get the maximum amount of attention in the 2-8 seconds someone is viewing their art while doomscrolling their algorithm Recommended For You timeline.

No. 2486854

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I keep weighing the pros and cons of making art friends. It's one thing to befriend someone that draws, but it feels next to impossible to connect to someone who likes similar things period since the audiences are all tinged with gendie bullshit. I want to bully bad art in DMs with someone without them collecting evidence on some future callout post they're planning. Doing it lcf is fun and all, but it doesn't hit like it would with someone you can always go back to. It's different people with more crazies tucked in.

No. 2486891

Dumb question but why do some artists on xitter put the mature filter thing over ALL the art they post, even the non-sexual/violent ones?
Are they just shy, because I find it slightly annoying when browsing. It's obviously not a big deal, just a pet peeve for me.

No. 2486892

>>2486854
I just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art? What if it belonged to a kid or someone with zero interest in improving? When I was lurking the bad art thread, I was confused as well gooner slop counted until I realized I'd rather make fun of the subject matter than someone just drawing as a hobby. It's not like it's hurting anyone. Maybe I'm paranoid my art might wind up there because my skills…aren't that refined.
I agree with the art friend thing though. I myself refuse to befriend any artist without having to toe the line of validating their delusions. Like, no, I won't entertain headcanons or make my characters fatter, thanks.

No. 2486907

>>2486891
Pretty much, it's an interesting feel wanting to share art but also being so reluctant to. So vulnerable, easier for some than others.

No. 2486909

>>2486891
Likely because they're shy or have some other reason to want to hide it. What's more annoying is when they tag random dead accounts because tweets that start with a tag won't show up on the timeline at all

No. 2486920

>>2486854
I wish you luck, I made an art friend a couple of years ago that I do basically what you describe with and it is very nice to have an artist friend you can nitpick weird/bad art with, especially since she's in the same relatively niche fandom I primarily draw for
>I want to bully bad art in DMs with someone without them collecting evidence on some future callout post they're planning.
If it helps, I'd suggest testing the waters by trashing some art in a voice chat so there's no record if the other person reveals themself as the type to cry about how mean you are on social media. My friend was a little gendie-poisoned as well, but also was a little bit of a man-hater, so maybe that's a trait to look out for? I feel like shit-talking men and being gnc myself got her to drop her gendie labels and the bulk of her gendie retardation. She's not perfect in that respect, but she's now comfortable enough to vent about pornsick TIMs to me without guarding her language too much and that's honestly farther than I ever thought she'd get, especially since I haven't purposefully tried to peak her. I don't do any gendie shit myself, but I also only share my true feelings on the matter if I can find a polite or innocuous way to communicate it.
>>2486892
>I just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art?
Sometimes art's bad in a really weird or interesting way or the artist is way too conceited for their level of skill and I find the mismatch funny. It's just nice to have someone you can nitpick a literal who in DMs with (I only post bad/weird art on LC if it's by an exceptionally popular artist or the art is exceptionally bad because I feel like an asshole otherwise) for a minute or two. This might be overselling it, but I also think it keeps me more critical of my own art and motivated to improve while also keeping it light (if I'm only laughing at this literal who's art for a minute, then whoever might be looking at my art and similarly laughing is probably laughing for about as long–that's the idea anyway).

No. 2486972

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Pronouns are gone she's a regular girl now. Finally, I hope it doesn't bog down the story.

No. 2486979

>>2486972
>not traditionally feminine
>looks like your stereorypical 00s cartoon stacy but brown
How is she any different from, say, brit crust or the evil twins from the 2010s little pet shop remake?

No. 2486988

>>2486972
The art style is so shit

No. 2486999

>>2486972
It honestly feels like she just threw in that stuff about the gender as a one last pander for her followers. She still can’t let it go, huh? Kate is likeable as a normal girl.

No. 2487010

>>2486972
>Completely change body type to be more “realistic”
>Big boobs, fat ass, no waist
Okay.

No. 2487019

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>>2487010
I wonder if brujo is a lesbian with a homophobic family. The fact that kate is so sexualized despite being an outcast/nlog and the fact her Trent rip off is a TIF makes me wonder if she just has internalized homophobia. Kate is so sexualized, she looks nothing like the outcast type characters in the cartoons she wants to imitate.

No. 2487022

>>2486972
>she's not traditionally feminine and feels more comfortable with traditionally feminine interest #1, traditionally feminine interest #2 and traditionally feminine interest #3
lol

No. 2487024

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tama again just drawing everyone else's face looking like herself like the narc she is. she does it so often she can't even draw the rest of the body correctly and her lame zoomer fans eat it up because its dressed up in a tired y2k aesthetic.

No. 2487030

>>2487024
She creeps me out kek. The way she inserts herself into everything is so strange

No. 2487034

>>2487024
What’s the milk with her?

No. 2487038

>>2487034
no milk i just don't like her lol

No. 2487040

>>2487030
>The way she inserts herself into everything is so strange

oh nona you just reminded me of one of my biggest personal cows that i even got to meet irl, sweet memories

No. 2487045

>>2487038
Ayrt Kek okay

No. 2487050

>>2486892
>just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art? What if it belonged to a kid or someone with zero interest in improving?
ayrt What I consider bad art is different from what is posted on this site. For instance, I find >>2486972 every time this artist is posting, there isn't anything there to critique? It's not fancy, it's not alluring, it's uneventful save for the pronouns I presume this artist had included on a character. Her art isn't bad. Things like blueberry art, diaper fetish, things that are inherently questionable, have a colossal amount of social media interaction as if it holds some inherent value? Fair game. If I see a child has made it, no, that does not exempt me from bullying them in DMs privately with a friend, where the artist can't hear me, if the art is sexual or fetishized. Skill level be damned. Like you said, subject matter is key.
I enjoy doing it or redlining art in my own time privately or with a friend in the past because it is fun. I don't cowtip if that's what you're thinking, so what sad backstory the artist has is probably not going to impact my opinion of the art.

No. 2487098

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anybody remember casin0s and her insanely overpriced edgy catboy/catgirl adopts?

No. 2487154

>>2487050
Sure I guess. I'm just paranoid as all hell, might be one of the main drivers for getting better imo. If it wasn't "this is cool, lemme try" then it's "man, I don't ever want to be roasted even if it's for the better so time to get grinding". Like, I never see men do this, have you noticed? Okay, not all men, but subreddits like mendrawingwomen or escher girls would never exist if a man made it. Men are complacent while women seem to strive for perfection. I think balance needs to be considered.

No. 2487185

>>2487154
ayrt Could be. I know men do it though, because the friends I used to do this with were men. As much as I can't stand moids a majority of the time, the moid artists I spoke to had a streak of insecurity exactly how I see women on here act. Maybe they do it in specific places, but I've also seen some moids just relax and enjoy drawing. It might be universal, with us women just being more open about the struggle.
Afterall, we've seen how insecure moids het about little things we take for granted kek

No. 2487188

>>2486579
This is my meditation.
There is so much art now, but a dire lack of sincerity that's wrought this.

No. 2487415

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>>2487098
yup, though her characters have charm to them personally. I wished she would keep them but she sold them all. kind off dissapointing. her characters had potential for interesting comics. picrel was sold to a worse artist and I can't stop alogging.

No. 2487498

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>>2486972
>FL’s 2nd character blurb is about LE GENDER
>ML’s is more detail on personal hobbies and interests

No. 2487503

>>2487498
its kinda funny that this character is as boring and flat as jotaro is

No. 2487536

>>2486972
It's not my thing but I wish her well, the only thing that's bugging me though is that the updated art style and proportions don't resemble the artwork that originally drew in her audience in the first place. The way Kate's body is drawn feels very modern, it doesn't feel Y2K at all. Some nona theorized that the artist was trying to get ahead of complaints about the characters promoting EDs by being so thin which while understandable, is a shame if true because that's just what artwork looked like back then.

No. 2487542

>>2487498
It is literally so funny she redraws him the same ways every time and Kate is drawn and changed dramatically with each updated piece

No. 2487545

>>2487536
Nayrt or the nonna you mentioned, but there was some Twitter thread criticizing brujo and claimed that Kate was conventionally attractive as she is, so I believe that could be why Brujo changed her to be curvy.

No. 2487547

>>2486972
>>2487498
i dont fully dislike her art but the simple faces next to all the detail looks kinda silly to me, especially comparing it to other 2000's cartoons or even just any animated show that can have a cohesive simplistic style instead of wanting dimension and realistic bodies when you're just going to draw a flat head and dot eyes
>>2487019
i mean she's a tif and had a gf i think? but i dont think her family its homophobic if shes publicly trans
>Kate is so sexualized, she looks nothing like the outcast type characters in the cartoons she wants to imitate.
she's also supossed to be somewhat popular with guys, unless she changed that too kek

No. 2487555

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>>2487542
He even poses nearly the same kek

No. 2487556

>>2486579
Cultural ouroboros. Algorithms took the fun out of everything.

No. 2487564

>>2487555
So this character got on puberty blockers and testosterone… In the early 90s?

No. 2487568

>>2487547
>shes publicly trans
she's not a fully commited tranny shes just one of those tifs thats a girl with pronouns. I doubt shes on T.

No. 2487576

>>2487547
all that detail might just be for illustrations, once animated the designs will need to be simplified and it will probably look better.

>>2487564
I've accepted that she will inadvertently make something offensive and will simply wait for the fallout of those creative decisions.

No. 2487580

>>2487415
Sometimes I feel envious that my art was shit in the 2010s so I couldnt hop on the deviantart trend of making generic animu/furry designs and selling them for hundreds kek

No. 2487584

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>>2486579(baiting)

No. 2487627

>>2487415
dollar store kaneoya sachiko

No. 2487726

>>2486579
not to derail but i've noticed something similar happening with the artists themselves - not only is art starting to look the same, but most of these internet artists try to act the same way too, to seem "relatable". maybe it's just me, but it's so odd that it's become normal for artists to be TMI-level open on their public accounts: complaining about everything, mental illness sperging, using the same buzzwords all the time like broken records. think mgong and how she constantly freaks out over every little thing.
i understand this could be an effect of the current algorithms that demand a 24/7 stream of content but i miss when artists just quietly posted their work and shut up. it's beyond bizarre to see an artist you look up to post their work and immediately follow it up with a post or IG story about how their self-diagnosed schizophrenia is making them act up or whatever.

No. 2487773

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>>2487098
She rebranded recently but is subtle about it. I'm surprised there isn't much backlash about it since she was run off the web for being inappropriate with minors in her discord server

No. 2487797

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>the scene Griffith oc artist is a former anachan
Sheesh

No. 2487799

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>>2487797
The drawing in higher quality

No. 2487813

>>2487799
>chubbier
Has this artist ever seen a chubby person?
>40 years old
Has this artist ever seen a 40 year old man?

No. 2487818

>>2487813
her only frame of reference of moids is from yaoi

No. 2487821

>>2487797
>>2487799
>draw an anachan girl, call it a boy

No. 2487828

>>2487797
>>2487799
Look, i don't mind when people take inspiration from their favorite artists but she just straight up wants to be like Ari and following trends instead of creating something new or independent, that's a problem a lot of beginner twitter artists suffer from.
>>2487813
>>2487818
Was she called out for this?

No. 2487832

>>2487813
i think she's saying he turns chubby after 39, thats why the age is up til 39 and the text says 40 and onward
is she ESL?

No. 2487833

>>2487498
at least he isn't (openly?) a TIF anymore which makes absolutely no sense in le early 2000s

No. 2487841

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>>2487828
Too bad she’s just a lame copycat with worse designs, if she had even half of Ari’s level of popularity(and notoriety) she’d probably be so much more milky than Ari because of the nature of anachans kek

No. 2487850

>>2487832
Its still hilarious that this is their perception of a 39 year old man kek. No man past 30 would look like that wtf. Also calling him "recovered" from his ED when he still looks like a malnourished twig?

No. 2487881

>>2486972
this person needs a writer so bad lol.

No. 2487883

>>2487536
i don't follow the artist but it just seems like she changed her art style because she got better? her initial art style had charm yes but it also seemed like the beginning point. She just evolved

No. 2487934

>>2487883
It's no use. The nonas on this thread who hate her can't provide any substantial critique outside of their personal vendetta. To the rest of us onlookers it just looks like natural style progression, but to them they see something else entirely.

No. 2488173

>>2487883
>>2487934
what style progression? nothing about her art has changed apart from kate is fat. and she's not even really fat, she has big boobs/ass & a small waist. also i think a lot of the people who comment on ari like her work, so it's hardly a vendetta. i liked kate's design more when it fit with the y2k style she got popular for. it feels out place now. the male lead has always been boring though.

No. 2488236

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>>2488173
ntayrt but agreed. I would say Brujo peaked around this time last year(picrel) and has been deteriorating since then, even before the thicker Kate style change. Her issues with anatomy became more glaring and her drawings became less interesting/dynamic, and I don’t think she’s improved much on either of those.

No. 2488253

>>2487726
I absolutely love shutting the fuck up on my art account. It's especially annoying when artists feel the need to justify why they haven't posted a picture in forever like, this isn't anyone's business imo, you'll see me when you see me. Though I get some people are just trying to stay relevant for their livelihood's sake, this is the salt thread, so.

No. 2488345

>>2488236
Her older coloring was nice too. It had a certain vibe. The new one is supposed to be punk and edgy so I guess it fits.

No. 2488366

>>2488236
She really wanted to make them cis in these drawings. Shame she doubled down on gendies forever.

No. 2488373

Why does every medieval historical artist have to be at least one flavor of annoying shithead? Catholic apologists, those Eastern Orthodox LARPers. Even more annoying are the ones who make shitty "waifus" of historical/history-inspired characters as some sort of ideological avatar. I swear if I see another shitty anime girl simping for monarchism/fascism/theocracy, I'm going to commit arson.(alogging)

No. 2488381

>>2487726
Glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this shit. I don't follow artists to hear them whine about their personal lives. Oh, you're fighting with your room mate or some shit? What do you expect me to do with that?

No. 2488383

>>2487833
Ari reversed his titchop in the 2000s for “realism” and has him bind instead. She recently posted him wearing a bikini top at the beach.

No. 2488443

>ajin author pops out
>scroll through his account
>loli porn
It's my fault really since I knew he was a male, fucking degenerates

No. 2488449

>>2486891
They probably ticked that one "Mark your posts/account as sensitive" option in settings, so all media they post gets marked as mature. You can do that instead of manually marking your images as sensitive when you post them.

No. 2488450

>>2487415
Close enough. Welcome back Mike and Melissa.

No. 2488452

File: 1744751980354.jpg (841.72 KB, 1800x2048, 1000078584.jpg)

>>2488236
>>2488383
The fact that Alex is female is wounding me, they can't be a cute lesbian couple that would make too much sense.

No. 2488454

>>2486972
>Named Catalina
>nickname is Kate
How often does this happen?

No. 2488455

>>2488454
Kate is also a common nickname for Katherine, it's not a stretch at all

No. 2488459

>>2488454
I don't find that unusual or remarkable

No. 2488462

>>2488454
i feel in spanish it would be cata, not kate

No. 2488465

>>2488452
stop trying to insert yourself into a cow's fantasy world

No. 2488468

>>2488465
Shes barely even a cow, oh wow she drew cringe transgender shit as a teenager and it stuck in the art she's making now, that's literally every early 20s xitter artist today. The only difference is she kept a consistent enough style and managed to get big number.

No. 2488486

>>2488454
Americanized nicknames are a thing

No. 2488498

>>2488468
Nayrt, she’s really not cow-ish currently. She was last year but because of this show (I assume) she’s trying to be more proffessional.

No. 2488555

>>2488443
Reason why I can't rec his work here even though the mc in The Pool is cute.

No. 2488597

>>2488462
It would probably be Cati (cah-tee) or maybe Linita in diminutive. Possibly Catya. But her character is American so Kate makes sense.

No. 2488605

File: 1744760470190.jpg (281.74 KB, 1073x1039, asexual.jpg)

>>2487019
She posted this kek

No. 2488619

File: 1744761195639.png (5.09 MB, 3570x2859, 1716081946127.png)

>>2488605
Of course she did. My oh my why is labelling yourself as "ace-spec" becoming popular again? Why did it not die in 2019 as it should have?

No. 2488623

>>2488605
lul 69

No. 2488640

>>2488605
>posts this to her 200k followers

No. 2488641

>>2488619
So as long as autism exist, young spergs will still think their Uber special for not being gooners.

No. 2488656

>>2488605
"spicy straight" bingo

No. 2488663

File: 1744763638850.jpg (49.02 KB, 428x482, 1000029509.jpg)

Anons what do you recommend for getting out of…its not art block but i've been studying fundies and i feel a bit scared about being shit or worse than before? Last time i made a drawing from imagination after studies i did got better but i havent drawn in a while so im not sure where the insecurity stems from, maybe from the all the time i spent without drawing?.
Idek what to draw i have 0 ideas

No. 2488679

>>2488605
>also be asexual
You can't have your cake and eat it too.

No. 2488683

>>2488663
Pick elements from what you currently like/care about. Also asking yourself something like "what would I draw for myself, what drawing would I like to get right now?". Or, what would you need to get from a drawing right now?. For example maybe you want to see something cute or cozy, maybe something simple or more complex, etc.

No. 2488829

File: 1744775540041.png (32.12 KB, 594x250, ic janny.png)

>one of the /ic/ jannies is a lolipedo scrote
Ofcourse, i am glad i never joined all of the shitty discord shilled here. What a cesspit of a site.

No. 2488835

>>2488829
Also the other one is a furry faggot with a fat fetish. Only the cream of the top artists to moderate /ic/.

No. 2488890


No. 2488893

>>2488663
> i feel a bit scared about being shit or worse than before
Just remember that if it comes out like hot ass you can always scrap the sketch. It literally doesn't matter, nobody has to know you made garbage except for you. And don't resketch on the garbage sketch just do a completely new one. Also if you're in a bad headspace you're more likely going to psych yourself into drawing poorly, I was drawing something earlier and did 4 different sketches while I was feeling like shit and they all came out like shit, went to do something else and came back after a half hour and the 5th sketch was way better.

No. 2488916

>>2488829
Is that the janny? I’m confused what those tweets are trying to say

No. 2488918

>>2488829
what nooooo it cant be

No. 2488970

>>2488829
Am I reading this right? This sounds more like
he's condemning loli artists. Is he talking about someone else?

No. 2489044

>>2488890
I was saying that someone can't say they're sexually attracted to someone and then be asexual at the same time. They'll try to tell you that "it's only a little bit" but that doesn't really count. Definitions change all the time for these fucking people so why bother. I've heard that "asexual people enjoy sex actually!".

No. 2489095

>>2489044
Did she ever say she wanted to fuck Kate or Alex?

No. 2489132

>>2489095
No but she drew a lot of softcore porn of Kate

No. 2489143

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>>2488236
>>2488173
Profression means change, not improve. Praying you two are just ESL kek

No. 2489145

>>2489132
That doesn't mean she's masturbating to it tbf

No. 2489157

File: 1744811005363.jpg (180.59 KB, 1733x1241, rip.jpg)

>>2489143
Okay, her art progression still sucks kek

No. 2489177

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>>2489157
what the FUCK are those tits. Would it kill her to let go of the triangular boobs after designing kate to be more round, it sticks out like a sore thumb

No. 2489181

>>2489157
She looks greasy, why can't she choose a more warmer dark skintone?
>>2489177
This one is so much better

No. 2489325

>>2489157
She needs to let go of that boob shape!

No. 2489338

Nonas where the fuck do I post now that /ic/ is gone?

No. 2489355

>>2489338
Post Art for Anons to Rate on /m/

No. 2489365

>>2489338

Is /ic/ really gone?? Or just more of a cesspit it isn't worth posting there?

No. 2489370

>>2489338
Maybe a booru that permits that stuff? I'm not even sure there is gonna be a new 4chan.

No. 2489371

>>2488970
he's literally a loli artist

No. 2489386

File: 1744823320762.jpeg (133.49 KB, 640x640, IMG_2597.jpeg)

>>2487555
>trying to mimic old y2k shows
>tranny shit

KEK literally why would anyone watch this when you can watch shows from the actual time period that doesn’t have tranny garbage forced into it?

No. 2489394

>>2489386
because its made for zoomies who like the aesthetic but wouldnt survive the bullying of the 00s

No. 2489403

>>2488829
what is he even trying to say?

don’t pump lolishit to mainstream sites like twitter if you don’t want discourse or exposure. but i know they won’t like that because it effectively culls the export of their daily jerk off sessions. more proof otakus do this only to rebel against women

No. 2489408

>>2487564
There were TIFs back then but they didn't have any access to that kind of shit kek. They were also all lesbians and hung out with other lesbians. They usually relied on clothing + binding + the gym to "pass". She should've just made Alex a butch if she wanted to be accurate but oh well, TIF it is

No. 2489413

>>2488373
like one japanese woman said, they convert the image of violent men into cute anime girls so that they may plea innocence and assumed gullibility. they probably feel guilty for leading passive lives on their computers all day

No. 2489415

>>2489408
This. I remember shoeonhead having a tiffy friend in hs and she was a tomboy. Kate dressing like that and being a tif in the 00s makes no sense.

No. 2489422

>>2489415
tifs back in my days were just butches. they just got a haircut at a male barber and wore baggy male clothes or clean cut male attire. I saw a tif while shopping a while ago and she just dressed like a neckbeard and had a pedostache. it's bleak, they ruined butches.

No. 2489466

>>2489422
So should straight women be obligated to cater to fantasies of SSA women yearning for more gnc women to waifu? Please do correct on this since maybe i'm jumping conclusions too much? Like, I'm not even sure if ari is straight, gay, or just bi.

No. 2489469

>>2489466
I think you are jumping a little. NTA but I think what other people in the thread have said is that TIFs who both openly identified as men and were accepted as such, especially in high school, were incredinly rare in the 90s/early 00s and it would be more accurate for Alex to be seen as a butch lesbian, at least by her peers.

No. 2489490

>>2489469
Admittedly I am since I see so many "I wanna see more of this" post that feel like "I want more free art instead of doing it myself". Representation helps people feel less alone so I know the feeling, but at the same time, I feel like it's not worth it to expect someone out there to do what you should be doing yourself. I think ari is better off making alex a man since so many artist seem enamored with making every straight couple lesbians for some reason. No shade ofc, just annoyed by fandom's weird worship of SSA women–but then hating them in the same breath when they refuse to suck girlcock. Either go all the way or don't bother making it queer? I wouldn't care since at least she's not half-assing it.

No. 2489492

>>2489466
what the fuck are you talking about? meds
>>2489469
this is what I meant. a tif in the 90s wouldve been a very clockable butch. that character feels very anachronic and out of place because even the most tranny entertaining crowds didnt view butch women as men back then. trannies overall just viewed themselves as something else entirely instead of trying to shoehorn themselves as their desired gender by going through plastic surgery/hormones.

No. 2489494

>>2489466
No, it's just that most (Almost all) TIFs before the 2010's were lesbians. It started changing up during the late 2000's but throughout most of history and especially in the 20th century, a lot of lesbians just crossdressed or if shit was really bad for them, trooned out. And in the 90's most TIFs were basically just butches. We're just saying it'd make more sense for Alex to just be butch because the way brujoari is describing her "transition" that would supposedly happen in the early 90's doesn't really make sense. I also find Kate being a TIF kind of funny too, because that kind of straight woman TIF didn't really exist until like the 2010's kek
It's not that brujo, as an OSA woman needs to cater to SSA women or whatever, it's just that it makes no sense for her to make Alex a TIF. She'd be better off making Alex a male or a butch

No. 2489495

>>2489494
all the tifs in history are just gnc women. that one woman who changed her name to a male one basically did so she could benefit from male privilege.

No. 2489497

>>2487555
I feel like someone with this character's gendie mental illness and bullying situation, in this time period, wouldn't carry Hello Kitty themed objects around.

No. 2489499

>>2489495
Yeah basically. Also poorer women tended to cross dress more often than more well off women too. More freedoms. unless we're talking early early history. Hashesput (female pharaoh) crossdressed, but it was mainly for political power. Though, in the later half of the 20th century women had enough freedoms to where they didn't need to do that unless they were a sexual minority.

No. 2489501

>>2489497
tifs love doing this shit where they claim they are man but still partake in girly interests because they are not like the other guys

No. 2489502

>>2487555
>le edgy loner bad''boy''
>but also he does well in school and is multi talented
what a mary sue

No. 2489513

>>2489492
>what the fuck are you talking about? meds
I'm just paranoid that people might hate me for not drawing what to see, sorry about that nonna

No. 2489524

>>2489513
you should just draw what you like nonna, chill.

No. 2489613

>>2485746
I give him 2 years before he starts calling himself “Lilith” or some moidbrain troon shit.
You can also tell by the way he sees and draws himself he watches the most rancid and deporable porn ever. These types need to be wiped out

No. 2489621

>>2486972
I feel for the last few days ive been pysoped into caring about this “show” or “project” but I really dont. This artstyle is shit and it lacks all personality. Basic talent, sure, but its not revolutionary or anything. This artist looks like they will get cancelled for some dumb shit by their equally as dumb audience in less than a year.

No. 2489647

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>>2485746
Does this kind of moid think we’re dumb? We know they have a fetish kek. Why do soymoids wanna be the “le wholesome lesbian protector”. The true honorary lesbians/lesbian protectors are the straight/bi women who are gigaterfs

No. 2489681

>>2489145
Asexuality isn't real, unless you want to say that Brujo is an autist, schizo, traumatised, severly depressed, or has a physical medical condition.
>>2489647
It doesn't help that handmaidens ooh and ahh over these moids, they're already porn rotten so they probably really are that retarded and think that no one else sees it unless they're a fellow male porn addict.

No. 2489799

File: 1744843226210.jpeg (1.69 MB, 2998x3420, Chrischanlevelrt.jpeg)

Can anybody please help me with foreshortening cylinders and ellipses? No matter what I do it just looks wrong in some way, even when I directly copy from a youtube video. The face of the cylinder is always too circular, or too pointy, or too wide to be properly attached to the lines that make it a cylinder. Ellipses are a whole other beast. When I draw them, its like pulling teeth. Something must always be too rounded or messy. I tried all the popular videos, proko, Kentucky, robert kiss, whatever. Is it simply an issue of not having enough practice and I must grind, or is my technique off in some way?

No. 2489805

>>2485746
i am predicting it already
>troons out
>self insert goes from generic unsexualized moid in tshirt and jeans to big booba anime girl in fetish gear
>starts posting pics of himself in stockings and cat ears
>gets outted as a groomer

No. 2489814

>>2485746
once he troons out, im going to genuinely enjoy the moment he decides to end his life.

No. 2489867

File: 1744847536922.jpeg (583.57 KB, 1125x1395, IMG_8260.jpeg)

>>2489799
An old technique for practicing ellipses is to draw one half first and then the opposite side.

No. 2489873

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>>2488683
>>2488893
Thanks anons,i appreciate your replies and will try to keep them in mind especially drawing for myself and not worrying about bad drawings too much

No. 2489944

New Psychocuties episode. Also update for anyone who was interested in TAMAKUZ's stalker, apparently he's getting his girlfriend (?) to harrass random people at art markets. Seeing as he gets triggered every time she posts something outside of VK he's probably going to release another several hour long video about her in the next month or so.

No. 2489979

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>>2487555
ari is also encouraging self ship with her ocs now, according to a tweet.

No. 2490041

>>2489338
i'm just sad i lost access to the digital asset sharing thread. i got a lot of great brushes from that place

No. 2490057

>>2489979
This is so damn ugly

No. 2490060

>>2489944
I feel sorry for her and i hope the scrote gets testicular tortion but god this is so cringe and ugly. I cant stand yanderefags.

No. 2490073

File: 1744859756038.png (1.79 MB, 1190x1192, 1716658650550.png)

>>2489647
That pic

No. 2490075

>>2489979
>heavily debated
Trannies have this fantasy that everyone cares about their bullshit. Girl, no one is debating anything about you.

No. 2490096

>>2488236
Isn't Alex a TIF? Why is she scared of the bra? Why would a man be scared of a bra either?

No. 2490109

>>2490096
I can understand an actual teenage boy being weird and nervous about bras, especially when the girl who owns it is right in front of him, but yeah it's a retarded reaction for Alex since he's a TIF

No. 2490110

>>2490096
maybe she forgot about the tif stuff and wanted to draw an awkard moment for a teen guy, or just chose the wrong expression

No. 2490114

>>2489979
fostering parasocial fans like this can't end good

No. 2490130

>>2490096
boys and men are often depicted as incredibly squeamish and embarrassed towards things like bras or period products in media, which tends to be the main exposure to males gendies/tifs have so they think that's just how guys really are, so that's how a character who thinks she ought to be a man would naturally behave. That, or it's not that deep and it's an attempt at humour over a character stumbling across an intimate item of a friend/crush and getting flustered over it while the fmc doesn't notice or is casual about it

No. 2490146

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>>2489799
nonnie im not sure but i hope i can help you, idk but maybe you arent thinking about these specific things
>too circular
if one side istoo circular try to think how the other side would look would it really show that much? or would it look even smaller than in your drawing?
>too wide to be properly attached to the lines that make it a cylinder.
you could try to make really confident lines or use more guidelines like you were apparently going to do in the middle of the page of the drawing on the left
I also noticed that even in perspective some of your sidelines seem too short, and in the lower right drawing the lines closer to the circle seem to lose and like you didnt even try (no offense)
>Something must always be too rounded or messy.
dont do the same lines too many times and keep your pencil sharp but dont or try with a fine liner, but dont do the same line over and over on the same spot because that also doesnt help make it look neater, maybe just try working on your pulse and line confidence
>Is it simply an issue of not having enough practice and I must grind?
im not sure of how long youre taking with those drawing but they seem really quick, and its not like they should take too much, because theyre cilinders anyways, but grinding also needs some patience to make things look right, you could also try to look at some references and really observe amount the upper and lower circle show on the side, there's a lot of them in pinterest too sorry for the bad quality just grabbed the first one i saw

No. 2490192

>>2489466
No, it just doesn't make sense when the story is supposed to take place in the 2000s. Her character wouldn't have had access to hormones or surgery as a minor back then. It's jarring especially for people old enough to have memory of the time.

>>2489647
Is that supposed to be 'terf-chan' or something?

No. 2490198

it's annoying when an artist gets into something and then it's their entire personality from then on our (until the next thing). It's annoying from anyone but from artists there's a whole wave of low effort ooc artworks to come out of things. People glorify being into media 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand instead of actually just engaging and it waters fandom down (imo) and makes it difficult to find fanart that isn't just rancid takes/art on a character then watched a 2hr deep dive about rather than just watching the series

No. 2490217

>>2489177
One thing I absolutely hated and will not miss about the 00s style some cartoons adopted is the fucking skin color sclera. I hated it then and and I hate it here now too.

No. 2490234

>>2489157
>>2487883
It isn't badly drawn but these design choices seem a little weird to me. I look at >>2488236 and I don't think it is badly drawn, the anatomy looks fine it's just stylized. I don't think her skill level has improved or deteriorated, it's more that her taste/style has developed away from her initial inspirations.

If she isn't going to use the y2k art style anymore is there any reason she still wants to use a 2000s setting? She doesn't seem super interested in making a time-accurate period piece, maybe a modern setting would be more cohesive for how her story is evolving.

No. 2490241

>>2490060
>cringe and ugly
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I'm holding out hope she's going to do any of the things she talked about on her TG because it seems quite interesting but as of now it doesn't seem to be getting any better than this. Sad.

No. 2490264

>>2489157
this is so fucking ugly I swear to god I don't know how any of you can possibly like this shit. or maybe it is because I went to a hardcore art school and developed a different taste for art or something like that, because I genuinely can't understand how this is appealing to anyone. "it's appealing to zoomers!" I'm younger than this tif and I still find this shit repulsive to look at. I'm genuinely convinced that people who like this stupid art style can't draw, never studied art or picked up a pencil in their entire lives, or are blinded by 2000s nostalgia. it's surreal to me that people in this thread are defending this tif's garbage, I thought you guys were better than this.

No. 2490297

>>2490264
The new art style is indeed, not great, but the older stuff is fine. Do her fans like her new design direction? The characters look modern-coomerish now, don't know how else to describe it.

No. 2490303

Fucking sick of finding artists who make nice characters only to find out they’re using its/he/her/they for every fucking character. The fucking it pronoun I cant fucking stand, especially for characters that are so obviously women. Anyone got any lesbian artist recs that don't fall into troondick/gendie worship? Im sick of getting jumpscared by tranny shit when I check out an artists page.

No. 2490305

>>2490297
>modern-coomerish

I get that vibe too, it feels like a Twitter moid who draws those thick-curvy women

No. 2490454

I keep making new accounts about every facet of my hobbies be it craft, fandom or just subject matter, think landscape art for example since I am afraid if I stay to long on one account for too long I might end up having more then 60 followers and I start deleting every old follower that shows sings of the weird modern call out culture, idk why I do this I haven't done anything wrong but I grew up in a family where every small digression was a huge deal that deserved beating and screaming at you and seeing how the modern callout culture evolved overtime I just don't wanna deal with it, I already limited my use to only irrelevant social media platform and portfolio website but I just keep going jumping to more irrelevant platforms but then I end up afraid I might end up as a big intermediate skill fish inside of a small beginner art pound so I just leave after a few months of activity, it is hell, I am not even that good to begin with so I know what I am doing is deeply stupid

No. 2490558

>>2490303
Same, I just wanna be part of a fandom and have fun with it but I can join unless I accept the troon cult?

No. 2490691

I wasn't terribly into 4chan's /ic/ boards, but I was thinking about remaking some of the more useful ones. (haven't checked if someone beat me to the punch already since 4chan's downfall) I know many nonas are paranoid their art will be connected to their identity elsewhere when involved on this site, but would anyone even be interested in a draw thread that isn't about rating per se, but about improvement? Or recreating the /dbag/ thread? (I think that's what it's called) Fishing around for interest moreso than anything. I was gonna make the OC shipping thread but you guys gave me some solid critique as to why it's a bad idea.
>>2490198
Sometimes I let shit fandom takes age a little and go back and steal their ideas and rearrange things about it to draw them more in-character to satisfy my own pettiness. I find that if you stick to canon pandering more than mental breakdown projection headcanons, it attracts a bit more honest fans to your work.

No. 2490897

File: 1744910298615.jpg (4.75 MB, 1800x3264, 2179723870473.jpg)

i know they've incidentally been mentioned here before but does anyone else keep up with tenderism/orin and 1p3pino/pedro? orin in particular is one of my favourite art cows. for the uninitiated:
>orin is a filipino-american gendie who goes by "he/him" yet dresses like a cartoon prostitute or dollar-store alt girl and refuses to lose weight
>pedro is an argentinian guy who actually looks after himself and is physically fit
>initially had a long-distance romance
>both got legally married a few years ago, orin has seemingly thrown away her art degree to live with him in buenos aires (iirc)
>orin maintains a nsfw account on twitter (innermostvein) where, among other things, she brags about how big pedro's cock is
>pedro also has a side account where he draws various cartoon depictions of the two of them fucking
>orin is often depicted as having a dick despite otherwise being drawn as a 5-foot-something woman with huge breasts
>both have posted nudes multiple times
>the two of them film actual porn videos and sell them to followers on patreon
>their followers, of course, encourage this

picrel is them and their artwork. they fascinate me, both are skilled artists and yet this is how they choose to present themselves. i truly wonder how they occupy their time, since i imagine no art-related job is willing to hire two people who've openly posted their homemade pornography online. if a divorce arc happens i'll genuinely cheer, pedro gives off the biggest chaser vibes.

No. 2491037

>>2490691
I have OCs and am always making content of them, would love a more general art thread where I can further invest in supporting other artists.
I'd also be more than willing to post work to help things get going. I used to be pretty active in trying to foster more community on /ic/ but these past few months I've been looking for alternatives so if theres anything I can help with then please let me know!

No. 2491084

>>2490691
>>2491037
A general personal creations thread? We can discuss characters, lore, stories, post miscellaneous art. To differentiate it from the rate thread on m.

No. 2491104

>>2490897
I love Pedro’s art but him and his girlfriend creep me out.

No. 2491164

>>2490897
Gorgeous art, shame about the degeneracy and gendie shit.

No. 2491290

>>2490897
I remember clicking onto one of their nsfw accounts a couple of months ago and was shocked when I saw actual porn videos of them. Hope she leaves him and develop her artistic strengths instead of making porn with a moid

No. 2491376

>>2491084
A general personal creations thread would be wonderful, broad enough to invite various artists.
>>2477921
This might just be me but I think being fearful of posting work because of trannies just empowers them and is ultimately a loss since all it does is silence women. I want to support women who don't subscribe to the bullshit but it's impossible to find them because the only people vocal about their beliefs are gendies.
Granted I understand why people here don't, moids love having an excuse to harass women, etc. I just wish we'd stop catering to people who actively hate us, regardless of what we do.

No. 2491423

File: 1744932027502.jpg (70.7 KB, 600x773, 1000034863.jpg)

I'm thinking about joining artfight this year, I don't really mind drawing from little kid's cool edgy mary sue oc, I think they're adorable. Regarding gendies, I think they're very easy to weed through even if they are plentiful.

No. 2491426

>>2490192
It's just a cc parody of "muscular chudjak"

No. 2491459

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To the nonas complaining about pronountards in art spaces; it’s amazing how far not actively promoting gendie shit and referring to yourself always as a woman will get you in terms of making TERF friends. I went back online in January after disappearing for a while and I’ve already cultivated a decently sized friendship circle of which I’m 99% sure are all based biological fujoshi queens. No gendieslop, no rotpocket fanart, no cuntboys, no yuri genderswaps, none of that shit. Just good old fashioned fangirling over hot husbandos making out. Have patience and your girls will find you, I promise.

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>>2491423
you should nonna! the ones ive drawn for have been so sweet and grateful, and i love getting art back from them too! its so dang endearing.

No. 2491468

>>2491459
I am very happy for you, but how is "yuri genderswaps" on the level of rotpocket and cuntboy gendieslop?

No. 2491488

>>2491468
nta but im guessing shes just a straight woman who gets annoyed by yuri getting shoe-horned for diversity points. Its definitely not as bad as rotpocket/cuntboy shit but I can see why someone who consumes yaoi for the porn wouldn't get off to female depictions of the yaoi couple, Im guessing she didnt mention general genderbending because if only one character is turned female its still a heterosexual dynamic they can get off to.

No. 2491494

>>2491468
Normal fujoshis do not care one iota for yuri, and if they’re bisexual, will respectfully keep them separate for two different audiences. Only yurifag troons and fakebian TIFs feel the need to constantly genderswap male characters while clapping their hands and hollering about ‘yurifying your yaoi!!!’ or ‘lesbian beaming ugly gross men into le beautiful sapphic couple!!!’ It’s nothing against regular himejoshis (such as yourself, I presume) who mind their own business and maintain mutual respect for both our boundaries, which simply involves not being particularly keen on fanart of same-sex relationships of the gender we’re not attracted to.

No. 2491496

>>2491488
>Im guessing she didnt mention general genderbending because if only one character is turned female its still a heterosexual dynamic they can get off to.
Nta but kek that seething

No. 2491498

>>2491488
im a lesbian + love yuri genderbends but balding 37 yr old obese male troons flock to it like crazy, so i get where shes coming from, especially if shes a straight woman

No. 2491499

>>2491496
? No I'm just being blunt that most fujoshis are heterosexual women and some of them get off to yaoi because its hot. They probably wouldn't mind het genderbend as much as lesbian genderbend because they get off to penis, whether its one penis or two penises.

No. 2491502

>>2491499
I hate hetbends the most though, yuri bend is just indifferent to me. It usually is a woman who likes the ship doing yuribends anyway since male troons are allergic enough to yaoi that they don’t even come to turn it into yuri, there’s enough readymade moeslop in the world. Someone who hetbends is just a yume sticking herself where she doesn’t belong though.(infighting/baiting)

No. 2491503

>>2491459
Thank you nona, I want to believe.

No. 2491507

>>2491499
You can call it being blunt if you want, but most would probably figure that if a fujo hates cuntboy then they probably aren't okay with hetbending, given the genitals and all.

No. 2491509

>>2491423
Im doing it, and i made sure to get a wide variety of gendies and furries in my bookmarks so I can't get mean words for not being inclusive.
But I'm also 100% cheating by starting early, because I'm evil.

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>>2491507
From my experience usually I see fujos hetbend the ship (specifically jp artists, usually chinese ones are the ones who cuntboyfy) whereas tif/cuntboy shit has implications to troonshit butchering that turns off most fujos.

No. 2491514

>>2491502
I think yuribending out of curiousity over how dynamics would play out is fun but a lot of the time it's just gyaru big titty bunny girl ocs that barely look like the original characters and don't carry any of the emotional stuff the original would have.

No. 2491518

>>2491494
ayrt and I see! That makes a lot of sense, and I agree with your sentiments regarding separations and how lesbending tends to be viewed by spicy heterosexual women and degenerate moids who wish they were lesbians. I think les-bending is pretty good, because a lot of M/M ships are better that way in my eyes, but I understand that if you do that stuff you should tag it accordingly so that those who don't like lesbending a M/M ship won't see it. I hope my question didn't come off as aggressive or rude I was just curious as to why it was put on that level.
>>2491502
What, hetbending is based and I don't see how it becomes yumejoshing?

No. 2491531

>>2490897
reminds me of pantsu ripper and his ewhore gf

No. 2491563

>>2491084
I think a thread like this would be cool! It might also be a good place to ask for general art and writing advice, which could create some productive discussions even if nonas don't want to directly post their own art

No. 2491587

>>2491518
Ntayrt when I usually see hetbending it's super out of character, suddenly the female character is a bimbo and the other guy is a chad, they get het stereotypes projected onto them. The other anon called it yumeing because it's usually a straight woman wanting to see straight content, which is valid and fine, but I understand people who prefer to not see the canon be bent in general.

No. 2491640

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>>2491587
On the topic of genderbends, one of my biggest pet peeves is when they draw the obvious bias character with massive tits even if it would be more in character for them to be flatter. even worse if they characterize him as a bimbo like you said

No. 2491647

>>2491512
I feel like this isn't really fujo, just sorta fujo. That stuff I associate more with older fandom when fujoism wasn't as popular. Seems to have fallen out of popularity compared to M/M, I wonder if there would be less trans fan content if people went back to hetbending fujoships like that.

Naruko/Sasuke is cute.

No. 2491649

>>2490897
>pedro is an argentinian guy who actually looks after himself and is physically fit
post proof? because all i see is an unwashed pubefaced ugly scrote

No. 2491659

>>2491640
Somewhat off-topic but holy fucking shit, I can't find a decent femdom doujin without the main character always having huge tits. Whether it's Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc. OR, if the artist's a woman, why fucking add to the problem of objectification?

No. 2491668

>>2491640
>one of my biggest pet peeves is when they draw the obvious bias character with massive tits even if it would be more in character for them to be flatter.
It's probably because the artist is attracted to women on some level and wants to see it (especially if it's drawn tastefully,) but it still doesn't stop be from being a bit bothered by it too. Maybe I wouldn't call it yume personally, but it could depend from person to person. I'm just not that interested in self insertion. Fans absolutely should filter out content that bends canon at all but I'm rarely going to be upset because it's het. I'm so over that self induced discourse brainrot shaming women for having fun. But a good hetbend or even gaybend can both be done well. I'm purely interested in a good story.
>What's interesting this time around?
>How has the dynamic changed?
>Is the sex hot?
>Was their love confession different?

No. 2491670

>>2491659
Japanese women are cowards, even in josei with attractive men they still objectify the female insert more than the hot guy.

No. 2491742

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I'm experimenting with my style and I really want my digital art to look like old cartoons (picrel as an example), any tips?

No. 2491808

I stopped joining zines for a number of reasons. But the length that some zines take is definitely one of them. This zine I participated in started in 2022 and the shipments still haven’t been delivered…it’s supposed to be by this month, but I can’t really believe it since it’s been so fucking long.
This isn’t even the first time a zine I joined took ages to complete. Why is it that the morons who want to become mods of a zine are always the ones who have the busiest schedules? Iirc the mod of this current zine was “busy traveling” which is the reason for the delay. Or maybe that was a different zine with another irresponsible mod with terrible time management. The problem is just that prevalent.
I’ve been in zines that have been completed in reasonable times which is great, but too many of these twats have taken so long in completing the zine due to god knows why that my interest and passion have long since disappeared for the zine. Why the fuck would it take three goddamn years for a zine to complete? There’s definitely some time fuckery going on with one of the mods. Specifically the shipping mod.

Also, of course I also participated in a zine where the finance mod took the money and ran kek. It’s just so retarded how zines will have the entire funds handled by one singular person only. This girl who scammed the zine also did it to other zines she was currently in too kek

No. 2491826

>>2491808
I think the waning passion after too much time has passed is something every party experiences. One day you're just talking to your friends about how cool it would be to make a husbando zine and 8 months later you have to ship out hundreds of zines filled with shitty art of a character you don't even care about anymore during your vacation that wouldn't have been affected had there not been delays at every other step. I would definitely put it off for months in a case like that kek
The timelines are really insane though. As an artist I've never needed the full months they plan and ime and neither did anyone else. Most people including myself would procrastinate until the last week and bang their page out in a day. Or everyone would get an extra week because no one bothered to do work and the production timeline would shift further back. I didn't like doing my parts early because at the time I was participating in zines my skills were still developing and three months or whatever the mods had planned would mean a huge difference in quality. Projects like that only succeed if the people involved are really passionate or disciplined which online artists seldom are

No. 2491828

>>2491826
True, I don’t really think I was ever truly excited to receive a zine I participated in in the mail. And the long production times is also annoying when you’re working on a piece and it won’t be until a year or more later when you actually get to post it, and that art is terribly outdated at that point so it’s too ugly to post.
And I wonder how often mods can just take a chunk of the profits (that doesn’t include their original share) before paying the artists and no one would ever know. Overall it’s just harder for me to trust zines now, so I stopped joining them for about a year or two since. A zine that started in 2022 and is still not complete is just fucking ridiculous and irresponsible

No. 2491845

>>2491742
Breaking down the characteristics of your picrel:
>Bright, bold, but not too saturated colours
>Dark flowy lineart
>"Simple" characters against painterly backgrounds
>Also, each character has a pretty simple colour scheme
>Strong emphasis on shapes
>Shading on the characters is mostly used to show areas with depth, shading in the background is a lot bolder and more dynamic
>Painterly textures
Looking at the "building blocks" of the art styles you like and seeing how they all fit together can help, then you can decide which parts you like best. This is a very cute style by the way nona, good luck!

No. 2491851

>>2491808
zines should just be solo projects

No. 2491869

>>2489944
I actually think her artstyle is really cute and find the color palette to be really pleasant on the eyes. But God, I can't stand the voice acting, and I know this is an indie project and that they're probably not professionals but it feels so awkward. And the thing is that I don't even speak Russian, I really shouldn't be able to tell, but I do and find it honestly a little hard to watch.

No. 2491875

>>2491742
Adding on to other nona's post, using texture overlays and blurring your lineart will help it get that "vintage/painted" look, if you wanted to go for that. Also seems like there aren't any very bright or shiny highlighted areas (except for the black nose and hooves).

No. 2491880

nonnas is it worth getting a display tablet? i've been using a graphics tablet for years but it still feels so disorienting. if so, is huion or xp pen good?

No. 2491896

>>2491851
So true. There just need to be more resources for artists looking to get into it. The production, shipping or tax aspects are somehow never mentioned in guides. Basically all artists I know that sell physical items either had to learn how to do it through trial and error or they happened to know someone who could help them.


>>2491880
Can you not google and look at reviews? Or just try any tablet that has a pen at a tech store near you to see if drawing on glass feels good to you. And if you order a tablet and dislike it you can simply return it.

No. 2491906

>>2491509
I haven't used art fight in years, are bookmarks public or something??

No. 2491947

Why are web based comic/manga creators always releasing like 1 page a week? It seems to be standard and I just don't get it, surely nobody feels satisfied reading one single page? It's been a thing since I was a kid and even when I really loved the comic once I caught up on past pages and got to the current time I fell off almost right away because I couldn't wait a week for that little content and have it cut off abruptly every time

No. 2491954

>>2491509
>But I'm also 100% cheating by starting early, because I'm evil.
I am now stealing your tactic. I struggled to get out as many as I wanted to. Fuck the gendie thing. Injust want to draw hot OCs kek

No. 2491968

>>2491947
It's because that's a reasonable rate to post at if you're a normie with a job and other obligations, especially if the comic is colored or otherwise more labor intensive than a barebones black n' white setup. It's also a rate that makes building up a backlog for easy if you want to go on vacation/get sick/take a break/etc. Of course, that only applies to the few comic artists who can actually plan ahead well, the vast majority just upload a page a week because it's the norm and don't even realize they could consider other upload schedules. It's one of the reasons why webtoon-style scroll comics are currently dominating imo. The structure of it incentivizes artists to upload content more akin to a chapter than a page, which users are more tolerant of. People would rather wait a month for an entire chapter they can read in one go than being dripfed sentences over the same amount of time and it's so annoying when comic autists don't understand this kek

No. 2491980

>>2491947
artists typically post 1 page a week because people severely underestimate the time it takes to make a comic with a decent story that holds up long term. I do think higher post rate equates to higher viewership, but almost every webcomic artist I've followed with a frequent post schedule has either retired from art related stress injuries, or they're fucking insane schizos who have horrifying paraphalias as an outlet for being overworked and forced to work on one thing for years at a time. Of artists I know, 9 out of 10 prolific webcomic artists that didn't abandon their project on a whim were stress injured and either had to downgrade their art into being fuck ugly, or they had to retire entirely. It's not so simple as artists needing to git good and crunch harder to post more often. I think part of the problem is when you're your own boss, its easier to ignore your limits, which makes for projects that take a lot of time and effort for a single page, or makes the artist overwork themselves.

No. 2492022

>>2491468
As a straight woman myself, I don't really care about lesbending. Sometimes it's fun, but I prefer straight and m/m pairings over f/f–not out of malice, just doesn't excite me.

No. 2492042

>>2491459
Are you me, nona? I recently found a BL fandom that is compelling me into nailing my "hot guy" styles down. I also noticed that people in this fandom seem to skew older. While the gendies are present, they seem to be overlooked or not entertained. Someone pointed out that the nature of the source material tends to filter people out. Feels good.

>>2491498
I've actually wanted to make a mixed yaoi + yuri + het work for my own enjoyment to share. Not necessarily explicit; I just like pretty-looking couples + I'm a fujohime. If I had to make one half be explicit, it'd be the yaoi couple since it'd filter the fuck out of my audience.

No. 2492055

>>2489647
This is kinda cute ngl. I think the chuds rejected/trannies misgendered part is funny kek

No. 2492064

>>2491896
The reason why production/shipping/tax aren't mentioned is because zines are, traditionally, small-run or print-as-you go projects that people print at home or sell/trade at zine-specific shows. A typical zine made-from-home can be flat-shipped like documents (or media mail, if you have that) for very little cost.

No. 2492130

>>2491947
It really is just that comics take a long time to make. A page a week is pretty reasonable, since even that can be an insane amount of effort. That being said, I think if you're making a page a week, a monthly release schedule where you release a few pages a month would be my personal preference (or even going chapter by chapter and putting out chapters every few months).
>>2491659
Real shit. I want a femdom manga where the FL looks like tomoko from watamote kek

No. 2492154

>>2491828
>And I wonder how often mods can just take a chunk of the profits (that doesn’t include their original share) before paying the artists and no one would ever know.

kek, y'all are getting paid? sadly while i've participated in a pretty big number of zines (+30), most of them were 100% charity. now, i'm not against charity work, but more often than not these charity zines felt more like the mods wanting to gain brownie points in the fandom for doing good deeds and getting to show it off than them genuinely wanting to support an institution or cause. but of course, despite none of the contributors getting anything (aside from the physical zine), the mods did always get their shares of profit.

No. 2492164

>>2492154
If a zine is fully for charity most of the time it's just the mods wanting accolades, to be honest. I've moderated zines for a couple of years now and while I did do a few full charity projects usually the project itself was themed around the cause we wanted to showcase support for (ex. protecting the Amazon rainforest, associations for women victims of abuse etc) for the sake of, well, support. To bring attention to the very thing we believed in and wanted to bring awareness to. For all my other zine projects, either they were 50/50 charity-profit or full profit because surprise, your contributors are artists and it's good practice to pay your artist with actual money, even more when the project is successful and profits are high.

When I see those fandom zines about completely random shit like "fairytale AU for this one gay bishie yaoi couple" that are full charity it never sits well with me.

>the mods did always get their shares of profit.

This too never sat well with me. In the full charity zines I modded for, the most the mods would get would be like 50 bucks to cover up some stray costs at the end of the project. The moment a project was decided to be full charity all of the money it gets has to be split between covering costs and charity, with as little as possible going for the mods. It just feels dissonant tbf to take a slice of a full charity zine's profits while all of your artists and writers are getting paid with a physical book and janky merch + some exposure. It feels unfair. So much talk about "paying your artists" but when it comes to those projects so many seem to try to avoid actually paying the contributors as much as possible.

No. 2492167

>>2492164
KEK this reminds me of some fandom discourse i saw once on the zine scene where people were declaring "100% profit" zines to be "greedy" and "wrong" because "nobody should enter a zine project thinking about gaining money". pay your artists except when it's a shitty fandom booklet with cheap merch i guess.

No. 2492169

>>2492154
For real? That's so scummy. I've participated in charity zines but none of the mods got a cut afaik. With a few of them it did kind of feel like they simply didn't want to deal with transferring money to a bunch of a people so they picked a random organization

No. 2492172

>>2492169
nta but sadly it's fairly common in charity zines nowadays to give the mods a cut, even more if the mod team is small (3-4 people). they often try to be very low profile about it but oftentimes either you can tell by keeping an eye on the reported numbers or they may even outright state it in a finance sheet, shameless like that.

No. 2492181

>>2492167
That's kind of true though. I wish fandom wasn't so profit-oriented nowadays. I prefer the ones where the rightsholders of whatever media ban that outright. Filters out people that are only in it to sell their 3$ vograce charms of every character using the same template for 20$

No. 2492188

>>2492181
(NTA) While I do agree with you that nowadays fandom works are way too profit oriented, I have to say it's kind of shitty to organize a huge project that spans an entire year, if not two, with an entire selection process and a marketing setup (aka all artists also need to market the zine around on top of working on their pieces), only for you to get nothing except a physical copy while the mods take a bite out of the money before sending the rest for charity. The issue is that nowadays zine projects are an entire production line that nearly has actual work schedules depending on the project, and not paying your artists even a single dime considering all of that is pretty shitty.

If zines were similar to their original concept aka just a fun group project to showcase love for a series, then yeah making it profit-oriented is stupid. But if you're going to make 30 or so artists go through what's nearly a job application and screening process and take up almost a year of their workload only to later pay them with an overproduced book and shitty merch then at least have the decency to give them some sort of proper reward.

No. 2492217

>>2492188
Yeah, of course they should get paid after going through all that trouble but zines shouldn't be such crazy productions in the first place. And I doubt they'd turn into those if everyone went in without expectations of turning a profit.

No. 2492372

>>2491851

You're right. Working with other artists is an absolute nightmare. At maximum it should be a small, close knit group of friends that like the subject and want the zine to exist for the sake of it. Rounding up randoms or a bunch of egotistic popular mods and artists is asking for a hellish experience. People need to learn to do projects on their own. I'm not even going to get started on the quality level. Zines shouldn't have a ton of merch to go with it, it's almost never that serious.

No. 2492399

>>2492217
the problem is just a mess honestly. fanzines have to be megaproductions because nowadays fandom merch as a whole has become more elaborate, so if a fanzine wants to sell then it needs to have all of those vograce acrylic charms with holographic foil, sticker sheets, enamel pins and so on. and then after zine mods found out that they can make their zine sell like hotcakes by just pumping it full with useless merch, that's when zines evolved from being just a genuine project of love to a super production of merchandise.

No. 2492670

>>2491459
Yeah! Me too! While they're not necessarily friends yet, the fandom I've entered has an overwhelmingly female base. Most of them do put their pronouns in bio, but it's either she/her or "do not ask for my pronouns". Judging from the things they draw, it is evident they are CLEARLY women.
The moid side of this fanbase also vehemently hate troons and I think that is mirrored onto the female side of it too. I've seen some poc recolors of the characters, sure, but not a single trans version of any character in the characters' tags and it's really refreshing! I wish good luck onto all other nonas too! Just believe!

No. 2492694

I get a lot of comments on my social media accounts how I’m such an underrated artist, how people don’t understand why I’m not more famous, and while I am flattered by them, it also makes me a bit embarrassed but also very frustrated because I really do wish I had more recognition and fame. I’m probably not too famous because I don’t pump out art much, and algorithms these days will always bury people who aren’t very active.
I am trying to be more active but irl stuff and art block gets in the way.
Forgive me for being narcissistic for a bit but it always kinda hurts when I see trending posts from other artists on social media who are around my level of skill, or even less, get more attention than me, and I just know the people who liked their posts would love my art too but the algorithm never works in my favor. So seeing people who did see my art confirm many times that I am underrated just sucks

No. 2492704

>>2492694
You have to post 3 times a day and comment on other people's stuff to get boosted. Social media is practically a full time job at this point kek. I suggest a tutorial. Tutorials are one of the most faved type of post from my observations.

No. 2492712

>>2492064
My guess is that it wouldn't be too hard to DIY with the right copier and a booklet stapler. I've made small b&w ones with a template and a regular copier.

No. 2492714

>>2492704
How do you even post three times a day? Wouldn’t that just run into a quantity over quality issue? I also see plenty of artists who don’t post that much but their posts still get plenty of likes because the algorithm just favors them naturally

No. 2492730

>>2492694
I'm in the same boat Nona. I put out good work and all anyone ever has to say to me is how underrated I am and how much potential I have and how am I not getting more traction. I'm not flattered by it, it doesn't feel good, and I really don't like spending so much time rubbing shoulders with other artists. I just don't like interacting all that much so it always works against me. When I talk to others on socials a lot it takes up so much time and energy and I'm just not as invested.

I focus a lot on my own work so that I don't feel like I'm missing out. But it does suck when you're constantly overlooked for someone else who clearly isn't better skill wise but plays the social media game more frequently.

Just keep making your art. People who find it will fall in love with it. It might not be many but they'll be loyal. I don't believe in posting multiple times a day and spending all that energy hoping people notice me in the comments. I've played that game and it always feels fake and desperate, especially if it ends up not working. I miss the days of posting and letting people admire it - it'd carry you til the next post. Who cares about my personality outside of my work anyway. It's a parasocial game nowadays. Sorry if I derailed.

No. 2492736

>>2492714
How I've seen others do it is
>save up a bunch of posts in advance
>queue them
>post less when you get enough followers
>when you want more followers just repeat
There's always the possibility that other accounts may be buying followers or engagement.

No. 2492911

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Does anyone have resources about color theory but more focused on character design? i am struggling a lot picking colors for a character and then trying to find out whats the best 'color proportion' for each colors if that makes sense

No. 2492920

>>2492694
Social media is a lottery at this point. I followed an amazing artist that posted regulary back when he barely broke 100 followers, he was stuck there for over a year. But then last month one of his art exploded and gained 4k followers in 2 days, now he has 10k. So don't lose hope, it can happen anytime.

No. 2492923

>>2491459
God sometimes I wish I wasn't a dyke so I could enjoy/draw BL and men like normal women do, it's so hard to connect with others since female-oriented/populated spaces and our interests are polar opposites (and my content attracts moids like flies on top…)
I haven't lost hope though.

No. 2492928

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chronically online discourse: op is pissed that someone yumes their oc

No. 2492929

>>2492923
Ayrt, don't talk about yourself like that nona! Although if you don't mind me asking, I've always wondered what it's like for lesbian/bi women who aren't comfortable with modern yuri fandom spaces, since most of the ones I see in fandoms like Genshin are 100% content to share spaces with TIMs and incels as the 'price' of making sexy waifu fanart. How do you manage?

No. 2492930

>>2492928
To the fandom discourse thread…

No. 2492937

>>2492928
>so like what the fuck
>hey so what the fuck is wrong with you
>hi so this is insane like. genuinely fucked up to say
ot but GOD do i hate when people talk like this. They sound like robots spouting the same exact phrases, it drives me insane

No. 2492938

>>2492928
i need to see how the oc looks like

No. 2492941

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>>2492938
nevermind its this ugly generic furfag thing

No. 2492943

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>>2492928
I had someone yumeing my characters and it was annoying as fuck because I never even talk about oc lore because I have some retarded neurosises and she was writing full on fanfiction to me about him and her having sex and Highschool Werewolf AUs and it was mildly upsetting. I'm not even a little big I just caught a stray bullet.
>>2492941
Ew, holy scratch.mit.edu warrior cats batman.

No. 2492946

>>2492943
>she was writing full on fanfiction to me about him and her having sex and Highschool Werewolf AUs
I am sorry nonny but this is hilarious. I bet it was annoying but it sounds so autistically charming from the other side.

No. 2492949

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https://x.com/Zhane_Star/status/1913238163642106261
Porn artist sees woman in the grocery store and draws himself having sex with her, sees her again later and shows her, and reports back that she liked it.

I think this autist was stalking her and she was probably freaked out and said whatever she could to not provoke him.
Or this is all fake and he made up some fantasy in his gooner mind.
I hate men.

No. 2492957

>>2492946
Kek, in hindsight it is funny. She was mostly harmless but fuck it was draining.
>>2492949
I hope to god it's fake like that one comic about the guy falling asleep on a woman in a bus

No. 2492958

>>2492949
wasnt there a youtuber moid who would draw women exactly like this and then got outed for raping his 9 year old sister?

No. 2492962

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>>2489157
i just figured out what her boobs remind me of

No. 2492963

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>>2492949
All those qrts and replies calling op a socially awkward sex negative puritanical virtue signalling moralfagging bully. Total coomer death

No. 2492970

>>2492929
I manage by not being in them kek Most of them are gatcha games, which are not my cup of tea. I mostly hang out in RPG/VN fandoms since that's what I like playing; most yuri series suck because they're written by men, so I prefer to play "normal" games and just get happy when getting surprise crumbs (latest one was Digimon CSHM, but that one has a fandom of 2 people unafortunely)
On social media I live in a cycle of "Create account -> Think "maybe it's not so bad" -> Remember the atrocities men comit -> Deletes acc to not feed them (I like drawing pinups) -> Repeat"
Not long ago I complained about how most f/f fics lately were about girldick and no one called me transphobic or anything though, so maybe the world is slowly healing. But yeah, it's generally bad, both on the inside and outside (retarded men keep draging lesbians' reputation on the mud)

No. 2492983

>>2492920
That does sound nice. Was he still posting at an active pace when he suddenly exploded in popularity? I’m worried that I might never be able to post often, so it won’t happen to me

No. 2493011

File: 1745066763563.jpeg (90.54 KB, 1127x746, IMG_8411.jpeg)

Nonas does anyone else find drawing faces from the front the most frustrating thing ever? I have this serious problem where the jawline will always be crooked when I flip the canvas, pic rel. it drives me insane because this is a problem I’ve been experiencing for years. I always flip the canvas often to make sure my drawing looks right, especially when drawing front facing faces, and adjusting it until it’s no longer crooked.
It’s so damn ugly and annoying to look at but no matter how much I try to practice, I don’t seem to improve. And I don’t really want to resort to using the mirror symmetry tool as a crutch

No. 2493015

>>2493011
I'm sorry but it already looked crooked before you mirrored it. Just keep practicing.

No. 2493017

>>2492929
nta but i'm similar to >>2492970 in that i'm not really a part of fandoms to begin with. personally i follow lesbian artists on account of them being lesbians alone, which leads me mostly to oc artists or women who draw yuri pairings i don't know or care about. it's kinda lonely and i do wish there were true lesbian majority yuri fandoms but i'll take what scraps i can get kek

No. 2493018

>>2493015
Yeah I just quickly drew an example so it’s not usually that bad, I’m just wondering if it’s possible to execute a perfectly symmetrical jawline in one stroke because it takes me many tries before it starts to look fine

No. 2493026

>>2493018
Just. Keep. Practicing.

No. 2493057

Do you have artist you follow who you think might be crypto-terfs?

No. 2493071

>>2493057
Absolutely but I don’t mention them lest troons are lurking and try to dig up shit to cancel them. My crypto suspicions were likely right because I once posted wondering if a popular artist was crypto, because she doesn’t include gendie shit and what her wife posted and followed gave off crypto/radfem as well. Didn’t say their names. Shortly after the wife deleted a post I had mentioned then privated so she definitely lurks/posts here or her friends do kek, sorry if I scared them. I’ve never seen anyone publicly suspect them so it’s fine, but I do wonder how the artist feels about her longtime “lesbian” artist mutuals who ended up drawing gendie/troon/futa shit

No. 2493078

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>>2493057
definitely picrel. she's a south korean lesbian who draws mainly f/f and has never drawn any pro-troon stuff to my knowledge despite being in a fandom infested with gendies (ffxiv). picrel is her artwork of herself and her gf, she's clarified that they both are women and not gendies.
not to generalise but given the extremely negative backlash to feminism in south korea and the fact that the majority of open feminists and lesbians in the country are terf/rad-leaning i have little doubt that she isn't.

No. 2493081

>>2492958
Yup jamesbear who raped his sister and suicide baited his ex

No. 2493101

>>2492923 I'm really sad you feel that way nonna! If it makes you feel a little better, most of my fujo group (including myself) turned out to be lesbians. We still enjoy BL content way more than any f/f pairings or content since most female characters still tend to be written by moids for moids or for the new wave of trannydick worship.

No. 2493137

>>2491906
I meant that I'm drawing a bunch, individually not in mass attacks, and some are retarded troon and gendie characters and furries but I'm drawing them too. The gendies so no one can fight me, the furries because I just want a challenge. I have a folder labeled "Sparkledogs" for just such an occasion where I want to be enraged.

No. 2493189

>>2493078
I absolutely love her art, I love that she's a lesbian, I love all her lesbian characters and depictions.

She's such a breath of fresh air

No. 2493201

>>2493057
I follow a handful or women who while I don't think are crypto, they never post tranny shit or pronoun politics. When it comes to 2D art is harder, but I noticed artists who focus on crochet, fashion, ceramics and similar tend to be more "normie" adjacent, which is a breath of fresh air.

>>2493101
>We still enjoy BL content way more than any f/f pairings
That's the issue, I don't enjoy m/m at all and that's what most female spaces are about. Very happy for you though, I have seen lots of fujo lesbians as well but we just don't click at all due to their interests being around men in a way or another.

No. 2493203

>>2493101
I doubt any of you are lesbians.(baiting/infighting)

No. 2493215

>>2493201
Nta, I understand your feelings. I don't like m/m or even necessarily ship content at all but definitely not yaoi or m/m. I can't fit into "husbando" themed spaces because while I have male characters like a lot, it's not with that attraction slant. As you said, there's very few spaces that aren't about males/fictional attraction to males but are about female characters but not from a male POV.

Long story short, I'm just not interested in talking about m/m but I also don't want to talk about f/f or female characters at all, with men. It's hard.

No. 2493225

>>2493215
The solution to this is making friends more or less anon. If you sniff out a potential crypto woman you should latch onto her no matter what she posts, befriend her and then your conversations will open up to be about way more than fandom shit. I do this a lot with random women on tumblr who have their heads screwed on right even if they don’t like the things i like.

No. 2493348

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>>2492911
This is how i approach character colors nonna, i hope it helps some! Values i think are really what make or break things

No. 2493349

>>2493348
nta but here from the front page. really simple tutorial and easy to follow for beginners thank you

No. 2493350

>>2492941
I've seen a million furshit OCS that look like this, what makes this one so special???

No. 2493399

File: 1745091773755.png (320.13 KB, 226x1748, rest in peace puni.png)

>>2493011
Try using guidelines or starting with a square. I have a bazillion references if you need any on different approaches to guidelines, should you want to pursue that option.

No. 2493407

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>>2493101
How do you feel about genderbent f/f of m/m pairings? theyre my guilty pleasure and they give me my militia yuri kick in the sea of moeblob scroteshit

No. 2493409

>>2493201
Sorry nonna I didn't really explain my thoughts that well. I was trying to say that like minded friends or groups are sometimes closer than you think. It can take a lot of work and it might be a super niche group but its really worth it once you find it. Most fandom spaces are very focused on shipping and romance/porn and it really isn’t for everyone. I know it can be an isolating experience when you just don’t find anything to latch on to, especially when everyone has their little groups or whatever. I hope you can find stuff that makes you happy though, and that you curate a group you can have fun with.

No. 2493647

>>2492937
The ops response was rude but after seeing their annoying whiney ass responses I say they deserve it

No. 2493648

>>2492928
Tard on tard violence

No. 2493659

>>2493011
I got the same fucking problem, I will draw it and it looks straight to me, then I flip it and everything is tilted right. Wtf

No. 2493798

>>2493659
I swear it’s gotta be some perception issue, like your brain just simply can’t detect when something is uneven so you’ll always draw jawlines crooked even when it looks normal to you, so the only way to check is to flip the canvas. Kinda similar to how your face will look so weird when you see it flipped

No. 2493851

>>2493407
Not the anon, but genderbent f/f ships are so much hotter. You get your favorite male character personalities, but as lesbians, perfect combo.

No. 2493859

Coming from traditional/fine art spaces it’s always interesting to read this message board and find out what the digital art spaces are upto. Y’all really in hell, huh?

Why is the digital art space anyways so intense? Is it because it’s tied to social media also inherently?

No. 2493949

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I have been drawing for 4 years and i still dont know how to draw faces no matter how much loomis i study. It pisses me off.

No. 2493957

I crave my old deviantart days back. I could just browse art and get inspired and I was motivated to create and post. I like the lc art threads but I wish I had that kind of art community still. Now any art space I look at is full of troons/handmaidens, and if you somehow manage to find a nice terf friend the platform itself is still so woke that if you misgender someones OC you're basically burned as a witch and kicked off the site. I just don't know where to go.

No. 2494012

I was wondering, nonnas, does soulful art while the artist is of decent/ advanced skill exist? Or is it too improbable?

No. 2494022

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>>2494012
I dont think soul has anything to do with skill, moreso with the vibes and effort of your art. Someone drawing a big titty animu girl in a white void is inherently soulless regardless of skill.

No. 2494072

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>>2492957
>that one comic about the guy falling asleep on a woman in a bus
You mean this one or something else?

No. 2494089

File: 1745156700359.jpg (3.35 MB, 2000x4000, busgirl.JPG)

>>2492957
>>2494072
Probably this one? https://twitter.com/raindoll_art/status/1879084350106743099
There’s way more panels in the thread, artist made it unnecessarily long as shit kek

No. 2494141

>>2494012
Pretty sure that sovl is a meme, at best is subjective. What one could say has a lot of soul, another could say is AI slop.

No. 2494449

Doing a promo for my art and someone asks if I can draw their child OC and it's fucking my head up. I know that it's just a blanket tactic to throw shit at whoever is open for things like this but oh my god. I can't elaborate. I just didn't want to see it.

No. 2494614

File: 1745189155154.jpg (38.48 KB, 736x564, 1000029858.jpg)

Anons i looked everywhere for the Julien drawing course but i cant find it nowhere all i found were some lithographies so i guess thats useful but apart from that its all sale links and i dont want to buy it. I have the Bargue one on pdf but i dont want it. Any nonnies know where to get it/get a link? i wanted to post on resources thread but its not as active as this one

No. 2494665

>>2490041
https://rentry.org/CSP_materials
there are enough brushes in the rentry to last you for life, surely

No. 2494674

>>2488236
I love the girls on the top left!! Their fashion is so cuuute!

No. 2494711

File: 1745196925503.jpg (63.15 KB, 500x500, kapi.jpg)

>>2492941
Are you sure that's the OC? Because that looks exactly like Kapi from that one FNF mod.
Did the original creator have drama and this person is reclaiming the character as a "fuck you" to him/petty armchair activism or is she straight up getting possessive over her fanart of a character that isn't hers (yume on yume violence)?

In any case, she sounds at least mildly whiny, but the other kids sound way more retarded than her.

No. 2494755

>>2494674
nta Yeah how is this the same artist KEK Now I know why you nonas hate this downward trend so much. Please forgive my doubting your judgements, nonas. I have seen the light. Her art was absolutely precious.

No. 2494764

>can't do a master's study without putting in proportion measuring marks onto the ref so I can draw it
Is this a bad thing? Should I learn how to eyeball it for max art gains?

No. 2494768

>>2494764
That’s completely normal. STG the amount of dumb questions that get asked here, just take an in-person class

No. 2494772

File: 1745204057587.png (268.05 KB, 800x870, e8acd6f8d529de86a5eab8679e88db…)

Anyone else struggles coming up with poses? i am so fucking bad at it, even with refs

No. 2494783

CANNOT get over the fact that I can't do shit without a reference. No matter how much I learn and breakdown. And I feel like i can't use a reference without following it to closely or breaking it down before drawing which makes it take forever to draw. starting to hate drawing, its the same thing every time

No. 2494825

>>2494772
same here nonna. i am so uncreative with everything other than character design, its actually ridiculous. I have decent art skills, i just cant come up with interesting "original" poses, scenes, compositions, colors…. is creativity like a muscle i need to develop? if it is, does anybody have any damn tips?

No. 2494843

>>2494772
Starting to get good with poses, I'm assuming you want your poses to be similar to picrel.
>Using refs loosely, and trying to create more exaggeration within the pose to add a more dynamic silhouette.
>Don't rely on the actual body to do the heavy lifting for the pose, notice how picrel what makes it interesting is not only how the character is posed but how his scarf flows, the largeness of his hat, the unique shape of the pants
>Give your character something to interact with, giving a hint towards a bigger story helps a lot. Look at how he's a gunslinger, the wanted poster shot up as it flows and other posters are flying in the background.

No. 2494855

Does anyone else feel utterly creatively bankrupt? I always say I don't know how to be creative, I just mash the things I like together into a composition. I know creativity is like a muscle, so what are your favorite ways to exercise it and broaden your subjects?

No. 2494868

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did anyone happen to see what this bitch heartmush posted before she deleted it kek? knowing her, those prices were probably inflated as hell

No. 2494869

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What makes art ''soulful'' in your opinion? my art is really bad, but i want to try and make a game anyways. I always hear people praise zun's and Ryukishi's art despite the lack of technical skill, and i want to know what makes their art have 'soul'.

No. 2494871

>>2493399
This looks so bad but is also wrong, you dont see the jaw on the right side at that angle.

No. 2494929

>>2494869
Imo it's when you can see that someone is drawing from the heart and doing whatever they can to bring their vision to life without using too many shortcuts. Your art will have soul if you just work on it seriously and don't let yourself be heavily influenced by others. Draw things even if you don't know how and do it in your way

No. 2494935

File: 1745224448890.png (298.33 KB, 503x560, marco bucci.png)

Sorry nonnies but since /ic/ is dead i got nowhere else to ask. Does anyone have the brushes from this pack?

No. 2494958

File: 1745226568946.jpg (647.48 KB, 2069x1443, heartmush.jpg)

>>2494868
Based on these replies it seems like the range could be $1,250-2,000(but she says the price is a “pretty good deal”) for a design sheet like the one pictured here. She also prices based on a ~$40/hour salary.

For comparison, an industry professional working with an animation studio offered me $1000 per character design, including providing fullbody turnarounds and a few expressions per character.
Generally I think artists should price however they want because they’re severely undervalued, but admittedly I have less sympathy for a rich spoiled he/they gendie, who went to a 50k tuition private art school(RISD), attempting a career in drawing $1200+ generic anime girl art for similarly rich frivolous customers kek. If people saying her art isn’t worth that much gives her anxiety she should get over it.
>>866684
>Her family is super rich and I recall her auntie giving her thousands of dollars for her birthday.

No. 2494966

File: 1745228484398.jpg (318.72 KB, 1161x1162, heartmush.JPG)

>>2494958
Oh wow nona I had no idea about this old milk, thanks for sharing this with me. I never liked her but now I like her considerably less. Big artists like her always have this kind of entitled and snobby vibe that I can’t really describe but her vibes still gave me more icks regardless.
>She also had a nsfw period no one knew about. But she decided to bring it up and share her nudes on her private.
Wish this anon was still here, because does she mean an actual nsfw account where she posts irl nude photos of herself?? Or just nudes of her oc? Sorry if it’s obvious, I’m just in that much disbelief. And $40 per hour is an insane rate for most jobs in the world, I thought I was being greedy for thinking about having my commissions $20 per hour which is over the minimum wage in my state. Do big name Disney/pixar/dreamworks professionals even get paid that much?
To be honest, I was expecting a large sum such as $600 or something but $1.2k is absurd. I can see why she deleted it kek. You just know the priv quotes were rightfully roasting her.
I’ll be reading that old thread you linked to try to read as much milk from her as possible. I hope that googling “heartmush lolcow” should show all the posts, I never knew she had actual milk content on her, but based on her whole vibe and how anal she is about her ugly cringe ocs with a laughably amateurish style, I can’t say I’m surprised. And the way she draws faces is so hideous kek, the faces are always so punchable.

It makes total sense that she’s a spoiled rich bitch, which makes her demanding one fucking grand for her ugly unoriginal slop she calls “art” even more hilarious

No. 2494975

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I joined a cool art project (like 10 artists involved), everyone but the organizer were on time and met the deadlines as far as I could tell but eventually all we got was radio silence. It's been a year since we last heard from the organizer. I suddenly remembered the project, so I looked the organizer up more closely. I had a very evil bigoted terfy hunch that someone who fails that badly and doesn't take any accountability must be a troon. It didn't take much digging to find an ugly greasy selfie and indeed clock him as a troon (a transbian at that). It all makes sense now. I've only got myself to blame for not looking him up right away, but in my defense I only joined because a mutual artist friend recommended it and other cool bigger artists I liked were joining in too. Isn't it amazing how you can't trust troons to do anything right no matter what area in life it's in?

No. 2494977

>>2494868
>character design is worth That amount of money if not more
Can’t tell who’s more annoying, the troon who wants to sell her overpriced art to idiots or the idiots who slurp that shit up and even says she deserves to raise it more.
>>2494958
>but admittedly I have less sympathy for a rich spoiled he/they gendie
Completely agree, I wouldn’t care if an ordinary person who doesn’t leech off their family did this actually. Judging from nonas who have talked about her before, there’s a good reason why so many people cut ties with heartmush, to the point of even creating a whole new server just to get away from her…so seeing someone mindlessly defend her is kinda embarrassing, like they have no idea how cuckoo in the head she is

No. 2494985

Can there be a separate thread for resource ebegging and noob venting, I'm sick of the influx in these posts already

No. 2494992

>>2494958
>is a spoiled rich sheltered woman
>immediately gets muh panic attacks when the responses she gets criticize her slightly
like clockwork
funny how this cow is getting brought up again so here’s another fun fact; i remember dropping by in the middle of her twitch stream and something must’ve happened because she put up a new sign on her layout saying something like “my pronouns are he/they” and people in the chat reminding others to use her correct pronouns KEKKKK she was talking about how she knows that people are unaware but too many people were misgendering her lately. and she has the most female sounding voice ever keke, her whole image on social media is pink, her persona is obviously a girl, she dresses up very femininely, but still insists on he/they pronouns? i get that tifs are retarded but this case truly confuses me, even other tifs would never do that so what gives

No. 2495002

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>>2494985
I think there is a resource thread they can go to (and if there's not I'll make one right now). I'm getting tired of the large amounts of zestlessness of posts in the past few days myself. Because of /ic/tards perhaps? The shoo shoo schizo knew about us so not so much of a far fetched idea
>>2494975
I swear to god the narcy sollipism troons have makes them unable to consider other people and so they ruin everything. I hope there was no money involved but it would still be annoying nonetheless.

No. 2495003

>>2494985
when will newfags learn how to simply scroll past posts they dont like, we dont need 50 art related threads in an already slow board

No. 2495007

>>2495003
Normally I'd agree but asking for brush packs to no response kind of seems useless and might actually be benefitted from being done in a seperate /m/ thread. If it doesn't get used, whatever, just goes to show that no one here is interested and anons could maybe try to get resources themselves.

No. 2495008

>>2495003
>newfags
>we
Some of us don't enjoy seeing this thread flooded with
>how do I draw an ellipse the online guides aren't helping????
>ugh my art sucks so bad does anyone else have this feel
>pls give brushes that will make me draw like generic digital artist #2876357 in two seconds

No. 2495009

>>2495007
If no one responds here you think they are going to respond in an even slower board?
>>2495008
And i dont like certain dramas or anons talking about how they have to larp as gendies to not get cancelled and you know what i do? scroll past them. Its not that hard.

No. 2495014

>>2495009
50/50 shot, might open up the chance for anons who do have assets and packs to link dump as well. It's not like one thread is going to make Cerb's bills go up.

No. 2495015

>>2495014
You are such a newfag you dont know there is already a thread like that failed miserably.(infighting)

No. 2495023

>>2495015
yeah it fails because it's not includef in the OP of these threads and retarded newfags expect everyone to spoonfeed them instead of having accountability for their art skills

No. 2495024

>>2495015
I wasn't saying we neccessarily had to make a new thread just not to do it in this one, I am >>2495002 I literally mentioned the thread, I'm just not sure if it can work as it's been mostly a tutorial dump rather than an asset dump.

No. 2495027

>>2495023
It failed because no one uses it and no one will. I am sorry but nonas arent going to post their question in a dead thread on a dead board instead of in a more active thread on a more active board just because it makes a sperg mad. Just learn to scroll, you are doing the exact same thing you are complaining about by making annoying posts everytime someone posts something you dont like instead of just letting it go.

No. 2495032

>>2495027
I mean we're all not scrolling, thou doth protest too much. It's hard to draw a line in the sand over certain things ever since drawfags wanted to post non-low level milk itt but it doesn't mean the thread needs to be a catch all for every single art related thing ever.

No. 2495035

>>2495032
>it doesn't mean the thread needs to be a catch all for every single art related thing ever.
Holy fucking newfag read the OP before coming here crying about how you dont like a thread. I swear none of you were here when the thread was made mostly to talk about art commentary drama and how it slowly evolved into a general art thread because of the lack of milk.

No. 2495038

>>2495036
You did not read it then and just copypasted what the original OP wrote.

No. 2495044

>>2495039
>sperg changes the name and OP description of the general art thread because she thinks the world revolves around her and what she likes
>no one gives a shit or realizes about the change and still post general art bullshit in the general art bullshit thread
>spergy OP gets so pissed 2 posts talk about things she doesnt like she has to derail the thread because its not revolving around her and her sensibilities
topkek you are so pathetic, imagine thinking you can come out of nowhere and make changes on a thread that has been on this site for longer that you have been using it for and think anyone is going to give a shit

No. 2495087

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>>2494958
>500-800$ for a fullbody
What happened between 2019 and now? And she posts so little, does she have a job or something? I can't believe a nepo neet wouldn't have the time to draw more

No. 2495102

File: 1745241097002.png (510.03 KB, 1500x1941, resume.PNG)

>>2495087
This is the resume on her website. It could be outdated because her last tweet about Class101 was in 2022 about completing the final chapter of her course? So her current work might just be commissions (and selling stuff at cons)

No. 2495126

>>2495102
God, I wish I was rich and could just fuck around like that.

No. 2495201

File: 1745247792095.jpg (2.02 MB, 1014x7205, Screenshot_20250421_100124_Dis…)

>>2494772
Poses are the only thing I take pride in. A good method I use is to write a letter (Like the letter Y) and draw a random circle on it. I stare at it and try to come up with a pose. Alternative methods like picrel work too.

No. 2495213

>>2494855
Redrawing bad art. When I run out of ideas, I just do anatomical and compositional corrections of stuff other people make. I don't show it to them, obviously, but it allows me to experiment with things I'm unfamiliar with to assist with how I see stuff? Hard to explain. That and thumbnail duplications of art I find appealing. Breaking things down into why I like it helps immensely.
>>2494764
I think artists who draw without guidelines also are the ones that end up having sameface or very little variation in their pieces. Like all blanket statements, there is probably an exception here and there, but nothing terribly exciting or heavy reliance on rendermaxxing.

No. 2495438

File: 1745260608771.jpg (90.41 KB, 720x722, 20210614_143733.jpg)

I had interest in the general art thread from a few days ago but didn't want to overstep since I don't come here too much, is it okay to post art here or is it better to go to the rate thread?

No. 2495449

>>2495087
i really wonder if she’s an actual neet

No. 2495450

>>2495438
I don't think the deleted posts were about the personal creations thread discussed earlier in the thread. I'd still be happy seeing it made too.
But yep, If you want direction with a piece, the rate thread is where to post.

No. 2495532

File: 1745267219280.gif (1.14 MB, 320x179, j8K69r-1153903847.gif)

>>2495438 >>2495450
Sorry I forgot to make it. I don't know how to make threads so it's going to be dog water. Sorry in advance, nonas.

No. 2495558

>>2495532
>>>/m/485635
samefag hi its made have fun nonas

No. 2495625

any nonna in the thread with experience 3d printing/modeling? what did you make, what do you like about 3d printing/what do you hate, tips and tricks and hacks, do you have any favorite 3d printing/modeling artists you look up to for inspiration, etc?

No. 2495692

>>2494992
When are the woke gendie teenagers going to enter their 'eat the rich' phase and turn on the obnoxious rich artists? I'd love to see a slapfight. Too bad the chance is highly reduced because heartmush is both a woc and a fellow gendie. I'd love to see it though.

No. 2495696

>>2495692
Unfortunately, conspicuous consumption is in right now. It'll take a lot of discontent for them to turn on her or just one really dedicated autist with a bone to pick.

No. 2495929

>>2495532
Thank you nona

No. 2495978

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Sageblog but If there's something I miss from /ic/ was to share CSP brushes. I can buy the gold ones, but not the clippy ones.

No. 2495987

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I don't mind zoomers who act human, but seeing someone write literally anything, answer a question, provide helpful crit or advice and get just "oooo" is response drives me absolutely insane. I've seen this so many times and I don't get it. These are the same people who sperg for 2 pages about their retarded OCs and expect someone to respond in turn.

No. 2496000

>>2495987
you mean like JUST "oooo" like no thanks for replying/the critique/whatever? also i've noticed a lot of new artists talk about "info dumping" about their ocs and then its just listing off random shit with no personality or lore or context or anything, just a short list of random shit

No. 2496001

>>2492943
>Ew, holy scratch.mit.edu warrior cats batman.
KEK we are cut from the same cloth nonnie

No. 2496041

>>2496000
Yep, just "ooooo" like what the fuck is "ooooo"?

IA on the OC "info dumping". It'll just be the most basic, trite mess like what aesthetics they like

No. 2496053

Is it meant to be like "ohhh" as in "ohhh, now I get it"? But "oooo" just sounds like "oooh, nice". Smh my head, short form video zoomers have lost the art of typing a message with thoughtful details to convey how it would be said.

No. 2496063

>>2496053
I read it as the noise kids in an elementary class make when someone gets called to the principal's office on the intercom.

No. 2496065

>>2496053
they sound like minions

No. 2496068

>>2495987
I helped someone fix a problem with clip studio paint and she was being a bit passive aggressive when i asked harmless questions to learn more about her issues with the program. I don’t really care if they were obvious, they weren’t. Anyway when i finally figured out what was the problem and told her how to fix it, she went “AH THAT WAS IT” and didn’t even say thank you. Ungrateful bitch seriously

No. 2496071

>>2495692
That'll never happen kek neet internet artists with rich parents are not the enemy to focus on when people like Musk and Bezos exist. Especially since heartmush barely posts and doesn't brag about her situation

>>2495978
Why not the clippy ones? Make literally any kind of decorative brush to publish on there and you'll get more than you'll ever need

No. 2496091

>>2495625
I do 3D modelling (character sculpts and environment design), and I 3D print as well (resin/SLA, not filament/PLA). I like to make models of my ocs and print custom GKs of them, since I like making and painting miniatures as well– I lost my mind working on my last original print project and basically modelled and printed a whole diorama with two characters, and that was a lot of work lmao so no more of that for a while– and am currently working on a figure of my dnd character (I do a lot of printing and painting for my dnd group, but not often custom modelling). Best thing about 3D is that it really does feel like the 'end product' of drawing in a lot of ways (imo sculpting in zbrush feels a lot like drawing/painting anyway and has skill overlap), and 3D printing just makes your ideas feel so tangible and real. Worst thing imo is hard surface modelling, I can do it now but it's really not my preference and I'd rather work with organic forms and sculpting programs any day than make eg props in Maya kek.

I went to uni for this shit (3D modelling/animation), so don't have the best knowledge of who'd be helpful as a resource, but some youtubers that helped me when I was starting out and learning programs/technique were follygon (his method for blocking out characters is really easy to learn), flipped normals, and Michael Pavlovich (might not be the best artist but his technical knowledge of the programs he uses is excellent and he makes a video on pretty much every function in them and how to use them). Can't go wrong with finding a copy of Anatomy for Sculptors either. I suggest learning the basics/how to do things properly first before looking for hacks.

What kind of 3D printing do you want to do? Bit hard to help out without that

Some various 3D artists I like:
Nikita Veprikov
Pauline Boiteux (she's a texture artist but she's too good not to include)
Gabriel Soares
Olga Cornacchia
Florent Desailly
Zhelong Xu
Eddy Loukil
Milan Vasek
Maria Panfilova
(all can be found on artstation btw)

What are you interested in 3D modelling/printing for? Any goals in mind?

No. 2496195

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Feels like Shen is gonna troon out soon. And his art is horrendously ugly good god(repost)

No. 2496227

>>2496195
Man who draw their persona like this is a huge red flag. He will definitely groom minors or something even worse and end up in a turkey Tom documentary

No. 2496380

>>2495987
I usually respond with nonsensical sounds like this because I type the way I talk kek So if someone says "Try this" I will respond "oou I see, I see..". Main difference is that I do say thank you when something works or generally stay polite in these exchanges. Not a total mouth breathing zoomer, just a millennial who has remnants of early y2k deviantART autism in my typing habits.

No. 2496504

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God how I wish Ikimaru got better. She is so consistent at drawing, her Homestuck art looks as if it only evolved maybe a fraction to where it is now. And she colors pupils! Is this what it looks like when an artist is happy with their art and doesn't feel compelled to change?

No. 2496517

>>2496227
I've been trying to figure out why exactly is it the way he draws himself give off child predator vibes and I think it's that he draws himself with scruffy details (beard, messy hair) and then throws in anime girl eyes like he's crying in a hentai or something. Pair that with weird shit like Animal Crossing nose and all I'm saying is that he probably has a secret Baraag or Pawoo account nobody has found yet kek

No. 2496523

>>2496504
She is a early tumblr artist treasure but the sameface has always been really bad. She can literally only draw that one face

No. 2496543

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I love listening to the annoying scrote in my art class fuck up on the cricut machine because he doesn't know that you have to adjust your image's measurements to fit the design space program. I'm not sharing any cricut girlie secrets

No. 2496547

>>2496517
For some reason man with squeaky clean art style persona always turn out to be deranged

No. 2496596

>>2496523
Yeah she is! That's why it's so sad that she never tried to branch out in any way. She has the potential, but seems to prefer the safest things.

No. 2496627

>>2496504
>>2496523
>>2496596
Not every artist needs to keep getting better. I don’t see the point unless you're working on a project that actually demands it. I want to improve so that once I do I feel content with what I have now. If my art gets better thanks to consistency that's fine too. The only issue I have is maybe she could do new faces but does it matter if she still gets clicks over it?

No. 2496648

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>>2496627
That's a weird mentality. I've always seen the art of illustration as a journey moreso than an attention magnet. Yeah, sure, she could just continue not to improve because she makes a monetary gain off of it, or because she gets clicks. But I, personally, feel disgustingly dissatisfied with myself if, say, a new fictional husbando is discovered from a new IP, and I can't draw his ass because he's a body type I've never tried to learn. So then, doing something like drawing him too skinny or too lanky would feel gross and terrible.
But that's a personal preference. I want to be able to create environments, use beautiful color schemes. Works of art that impress me. But if you're an artist worth your salt, picrel shows that it will inevitably hit you that "damn, my art is bad" even if a ton of others think it's good. I couldn't live with myself like that.
And? I don't want to be better than the people I admire. I want them to grow too. Being able to see my admirations' mistakes upsets me. I don't want to talk shit about her in a way like
>her art sucks ass
>this bitch can't draw
like Brujo fans. I want her to grow. I like Ikimaru.

No. 2496696

Does anyone know what happened to Virus2sexy?

No. 2496701

>>2496698
>can they see if they banned me before ?
They probably banned your IP so you should hop on a VPN and also a new browser with clean cookies.

No. 2496711

>>2487797
>>2487799
God I hate wannabe ana chans like this, she wishes she could actually be underweight so she makes her self insert oc unrealistically so. Refers to 49kg as chubby and ignores the fact that most anorexic women thend to swing the opposite way and go obese once they recover.
People need to start calling these unoriginal trend following retards that make wish fulfillment art on being anorexic, I bet she doesn't even cut either, holy shit.

No. 2496712

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I love Welter Everett nonnies. Does anyone have recs of artists that use similar saturated strong color palettes?

No. 2496713

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>>2496712
another one i really like

No. 2496721

>>2496701
nta Makes me sad that comments like these have been deleted so quickly. I went to piss and it was gone.
I still think not including pronouns anywhere in bio is a good tip and has too high of a chance of confusing us for those that aren't farmers for it to be clockable. That way, people that aren't gender stupid get art from farmers.

No. 2496745

>>2496380
See, that wouldn't bother me. I'm pushing 40 and remember the whole sound effect and action stars style responding. It's just seeing someone get an insightful reply to something and just responding "ooo", seeing an art trade reply just get "ooo", seeing someone post art and instead of saying nothing, some dummy replies "real". It's really brainless. Idk why this is the thing that gets my goat but it does.

No. 2496796

>>2496745
ayrt Okay, see, that shit will scramble my brain and I'd definitely read too much into it. If I do an art trade for someone and they don't reply with keysmash or a really spaztic gif or all caps, I'd start thinking they didn't like it.
Might just be me though; I prefer to have over-the-top reactions to receiving art thank lukewarm, one-worded responses.

No. 2496800

>>2495987
>>2496380
i think some zoomer/younger artists might be trying to replicate the early internet speech and then forget the rest of what would be a normal reply kek. But also a lot of them are just mutuals without being friends or even talking regularly beyond replying to posts so they might not be so used to what some people consider replying properly

No. 2496802

Everything I draw feels inherently horny because I am obsessed with human anatomy. Not necessarily accurate to life, but some of the muscles I accentuate just isn't as innocent as when I was ignorant to their existence. It's a curse.

No. 2496808

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Anyone else feel bored with perspective? I cant find any sort of fun in it even though i have fun with literally any other fundamental, i still try to study it sometimes because i consider it necessary but its one of the things i just cant seem to enjoy.
I know not everything about learning is supossed to be fun but being so boring doesnt really help my stagnation with it

No. 2496837

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I hate that one of the artists that inspire me the most is a furry and a he/him woman, her art is so cool but the subject matter is so cringy. Im so glad i didnt get the kind of autism where i like horse and dog dicks and want to be a "femboy"

No. 2496842

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>>2496648
I just think it's unhealthy? I don't always mind wanting to improve—sometimes it's necessary, especially for things like anatomy. But there has to be a point where you say, “This is enough,” and let yourself rest until it feels right to pick things up again. I want to make my dreams come true, but constantly telling myself “I'm not good enough” isn't a healthy mindset, even if the goal is to get better. Your art is good—maybe not perfect, but good. And that matters. Be proud that you can draw at all. That's something a lot of people wish they could do.
Honestly seeing all these post makes me wonder why I'm an artist to begin with especially as I see art in my skill level posted on the bad art thread. It just, puts a very bad taste in my mouth that forces me to never share my art online. The more transient the better.
Like art to me is a hobby. I don't draw fanart often–no spark or desire for it. I have zero interest in doing comics and the like. And if I ever make a game, it's text based because art just feels separate from the content I make. I just draw because it brings joy to me and the people who enjoy it. And though there's some subjects I wish to tackle, it isn't in service to a long journey to perfection, I just wanted to see if I can do it. Other people are, and I wanna try it too.

No. 2496856

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>when you're aware of your own art regression
>people are pointing it out
I'm just in my awkward stage. I'm anatomymaxxing, so things are going to be a little more stiff for a while until my anatomy comprehension/confidence is better.

No. 2496888

>>2496504
Never heard of her but her old artstyle looks a lot like elentoris. Did she copy her or was it the other way around? But the consistency is probably only fueled by all the serotonin she gets from her insane numbers kek her OC tag on tumblr is barren and all she draws is boring ass fandomslop. And it's genshin and arcane of all things.

No. 2496893

>>2496842
nta, but there's a difference between a "I'm not good enough" that comes from a negative mindset and something like "I like what I have, but it could be better" which is a perfectly healthy mindset to have towards your own art imo. Reminds me of fatties who think you have to hate your body to lose weight when I think weight loss plans tend to stick better when the person specifically does not treat the process as some form of self-flagellation.
I agree with you though that not every artist should feel obligated to constantly improve, especially if it's their hobby and not their job. I personally go through periods where I'm grinding my fundies like a crackhead or doing master studies of artists I look up to and other times where I kick back draw whatever I feel like even if it's trite or repetitive. Even with all that said, it still does kind of suck to see an artist I like stagnate after years and years, especially if I think they have to potential to make some really good work.

No. 2496904

Lately, I've been doing observational sketching whenever I'm on the subway. I just have pages of people looking down at their phones or from behind because I don't want to look directly at some stranger's face when sketching. At least I get to practice drawing clothing folds I guess. I wish figure drawing workshops were more accessible here.

No. 2496906

>>2496893
Kek will you send her an ask about it on tumblr? See if it'll come across as motivating to her or if she'll spiral? Or flat-out ignore it? I really don't understand that feeling. There are some artists I used to really like that stopped posting/drawing in general or just developed (imo) uglier styles but I don't feel anything about it. I can still appreciate the artworks that amazed me at the time, even if I can see the issues with them now. There's no such thing as wasted potential; people who want to improve or make something meaningful will do that. People that draw low effort fandomslop don't have more to share with the world so I wonder what exactly you're expecting from her

No. 2496915

>>2496906
Just wanna be clear that I'm not the op you were originally replying to (I feel like I keep running into anons who don't know what nta means).
>Kek will you send her an ask about it on tumblr? See if it'll come across as motivating to her or if she'll spiral? Or flat-out ignore it?
No? It's like seeing an old classmate on Facebook who seemed like they were gonna do big things in life turn out to just marry some scrote and is happy as a mom blogger or whatever. I'm not gonna interact with her or demand she turns her life around, but I'm also not gonna deny feeling disappointed about it, especially on an anonymous IB she's never gonna see kek

No. 2496943

>>2496842
>I don't always mind wanting to improve—sometimes it's necessary, especially for things like anatomy.
>let yourself rest until it feels right to pick things up again
ayrt Yeah. That makes sense. The perspective I'm talking from is over a course of 10 years. The fact that it never felt right for some people to improve in any sort of way in 10 years makes me wonder if there is a mental block there.
>Your art is good—maybe not perfect, but good. And that matters. Be proud that you can draw at all. That's something a lot of people wish they could do.
I just like some things to happen and for me to make them happen. I can't be… static. But I'm also incredibly insecure and have accomplished nothing else in my life.

No. 2496975

>>2496906
>Kek will you send her an ask about it on tumblr? See if it'll come across as motivating to her or if she'll spiral? Or flat-out ignore it? I really don't understand that feeling.
samefag from >>2496504 but that's kind of a schizo feeling you have going on there. Nobody should be bullying an artist just because their art degrades or stagnates. I was simply complaining after checking up on her after forgetting she existed for a decade. Leave her alone? I don't even think she capes for trannies (didn't check), so that's really a mentality for stirring up shit when it isn't necessary.
If she wants to stagnate, she can stagnate. I'm not her mom. I'm not her boss. I'm just disappointed in what I saw.

No. 2497381

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My friend joined a comic/manga zine a while back, they have a theme but could write whatever they wanted and all decided to only share the near finished versions together as a surprise now nearing production. Everyone but my friend and one more artist turned their story into a lesbian plot. To be clear the theme wasn't romance or yuri or anything related like that kek my friend showed them all to me and is thinking of pulling out last minute but fears backlash. It's really all navel gazing tumblr tier slop with vitiligo disabled muslims and troon characters (so half of them are also straight stories posing as yuri) and I feel so sorry for her but it's also hilarious seeing it and hearing her talk about how they all slowly realized they weren't the only one doing mind blowing woke representation and that they were in fact all the same. Imagine reading the same "plot twist" (the twist is that she's totally actually GAY and not straight) ten times over and every artist thought they'd be the only one blowing your mind with this.

No. 2497394

>>2496943
Maybe try new hobbies? I've did and it really changed my perspective on art.

No. 2497467

>>2497381
i’m so tired of yurishitters, i swear that most of the hype that they do feels so forced and has no real passion at all, it’s just them trying to fit in because it gains clout quickly. whole thing feels very cheap. i’m talking about those “ughhh step on me mommy/i’m so gay for her” “GREEN YURI GREEN YURI GREEN YURI” “[series] yuri?? so peak” comments. the type of gendies and freaks who will lap up anything if it’s suddenly turned into muh “yuri”. and they mostly keep saying the japanese term much more compared to the words lesbians and sapphics because they’re obnoxious weebs.
and yeah it’s especially prevalent in the comic community of artists. in shortbox there’s so many tards making muh qUeEr romance comic and it’s marketed as yuri, makes me roll my eyes so hard at how insanely unoriginal and creatively bankrupt 90% of these comic artists are.

is anyone else seeing the cringe fanart of the new horse racing trend on twitter being yuri of the horses kek? making the horses bland animu waifus is already an unoriginal and cringe move but of course they had to make it yUrI for maximum internebs brownie points

No. 2497501

>>2497467
As a himejo I agree with you, I stopped interacting with anyone who claims to be into yuri because there's no soul behind it. Support group for himejos now kek.

Also do you mean the horseracing anime usa musume? That was a thing in 2018 and a Japanese guy joked that no pixiv artists were allowed to draw r18 of the horses because they were owned by the Yakuza and no one wanted to be hunted down for disrespecting the Yakuza's property, but then he made a new tweet announcing some shit like "I am here to formerly apologise to the yakuza for my previous tweet. Please, no one believe the previous tweet, I was misinformed and ignorant." Those two tweets are the most prominent thing I remember about that horsegirl anime where they run like naruto.

No. 2497510

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>>2497501
>Also do you mean the horseracing anime usa musume?
It's this

No. 2497516

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do you take short breaks in-between finishing an art piece? i'm getting so exhausted if it takes longer than 2 hours to finish a fully rendered drawing and not just some shitty scribbles

No. 2497531

>>2497516
this is good and normal, its also always good to wait a day before posting a finished piece in public, you notice wonky parts and small mistakes

No. 2497543

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>>2497510
Ayrt that joke is so unfunny kek but it does look like how the anime is drawn where it's just ears and a tail. According to Wikipedia:
>An anime television series adaptation of Uma Musume: Cinderella Gray premiered in April 2025.
RIP to your timeline.

No. 2497559

>>2497467
>>2497501
It usually bothers me less if the interest is genuine, like if they draw only women and don't bother fishing for trend points by making one of them trans. Then they can be cringe, and I'll let it slide. Fujo and hime enthusiasm are both valid to me.

No. 2497587

>>2497510
>>2497543
yup that’s the horse racing thing i was referring to, i think the fanart where artists draw them as the silly little blobs that they canonically look like are the best type of fanart from it, and when people just draw them as actual horses kek. it’s so obvious that the yuritards who keep drawing them as animu blobs were inspired by the jap game
>>2497559
as a lesbian i feel too disgusted/ashamed to associate myself with most yuritards, finding someone who seems normal and chill about wlw relationships is unfortunately a rarity, even other radfems can be obnoxious but its rarer from them though, with gendie zoomies being main offenders. sadly most yuri art (specifically the anime style) has been kinda ruined for me because of how disgusting moids latch onto it too kek

No. 2497624

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does anyone know the current whereabouts of Koko McPedo Chou? whenever an artist like this vanishes without a trace (all of her socials are gone and/or locked behind passwords) its either they can live off the bank of mommy and daddy comfortably even when no longer working in their field or they've pulled anhero

No. 2497644

>>2497624
Kek she probably dfed because her toddlercon vtuber was exposed

No. 2497672

>>2497644
how do they actually move on after being outed this way? do they make a brand new portfolio from scratch and look for work somehwere else? maybe she has strong connections within the industry and keeps getting work by referals?

No. 2497700

>>2497624
Does this person have a thread?

No. 2497776

>>2497394
My current hobbies all face similar issues I think. Writing, playing games, etc. Doesn't really affect my art perspective.

No. 2497846

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Juby(@CutTimeComic) finally published a callout post for Genice on Twitter

No. 2497847

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No. 2497853

>>2497846
>>2497849
Juby is actively inside the doc, we need a nonny to archive it ASAP. I threw it in archive.is but I'm still stuck in the queue.

No. 2497856

>>2497846
FUCKING FINALLY, Im so excited for the crash out and how Genice will handle this. I hope she remains stoic and doesn't give in to her bpdemands

No. 2497859

>>2497853
Don't worry nona, I made a copy of it

No. 2497861

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>>2497856
samefag, seems like she threw it out after Genice is raving about a successful shop opening KEK, she is seething so hard Genice is thriving while she's been malding for months consecutively

No. 2497864

>>2497859
>>2497853
Do you have a copy of Genice's manifesto too? it should be good to keep handy as well in case she DFEs

No. 2497866

>>2497864
No, does anyone have a link for it? I lost it

No. 2497867

>>2497846
>posted 1 hour ago
>110 likes
It may pick up speed later, but kind of embarrassing for someone with 79k followers kek. Some fucking random artists I’d never heard of were getting 4k-25k likes for calling out that 16 year old tif Sirgaggle

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No. 2497872

>>2497853
>>2497866
>>2497864
i've archived the callout with archive.is, here's genice's manifesto too https://archive.ph/0UHeS

No. 2497873

>>2496504
Looks okay but both characters are crosseyed.

No. 2497874

>>2497870
Thanks! Made a copy of that one too just in case. And…man I wasn't expecting it to be so unhinged with all the prayer, but oh well.

No. 2497877

>>2497849
Good lord it's 61 pages long

No. 2497878

>>2497846
>>2497853




Archive of Juby's document: https://archive.is/3wwxx

Archive of Genice's Manifesto linked in the document: https://archive.is/0UHeS

>>2497849

No. 2497882

>>2497644
She what now? What did I miss

No. 2497886

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>>2497846
KEKKKK THIS RETARD REALLY DID IT

No. 2497889

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>>2497846
Wow, truly insane situation. Juby seems so fucking annoying when she presses genice to apologize for stealing… a wing design and colorscheme? But then genice starts talking about how she was told that god wants juby to shut the fuck up kekk what the fuck

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>>2497889
And who could forget this heinous copying of original thought

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No. 2497898

>>2497889
>she was told that god wants juby to shut the fuck up
KEKKKKK if I didn't hold doubts that Juby could've manipulated the evidence to be on her favour I could believe that its a cow clash out holy shit

>>2497877
I tinfoil she made it 61 pages long so she could secretly hope zoomies wont be arsed to read that much text and jump to dogpile genice because she said so.

No. 2497901

>>2497893
Nta but holy shit, thats her?! As a twitchfag I actually saw her being talked about during the time she used to stream. She would praise lolirape and gush all over it. She did stop streaming eventually, weirdos still miss her but iirc she was one of those who said that she got married or something.

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>>2497893
>Kiwifarms
Screenshot for the Brits?

No. 2497911

>>2497846
religious nuts are amazing…

No. 2497914

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>>2497870
>>2497889
I’m so glad I’m not christian

No. 2497919

>>2497870
all this shit over similar colors on some demon ocs what the fuck

No. 2497924

>>2497846
From the way she worded this and typed out all those pages you would assume that genice actually committed some heinous crime, but no its one christfag bippie chan having a meltdown over the other taking inspiration from her ocs. Oh Juby, never stop being an entertaining flop.

No. 2497927

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>>2497910
Sorry about the gunt. The text underneath it is "almost impossible to shame them. Just so people know these". The embedded youtube video is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGj0xMWReQM

NTAYRT, idk what the connection actually is between Koko and Gura; I think this post is just an example of Gura being a lolicon.

No. 2497935

>>2497927
kek not that post (sorry i linked the wrong highlight) see Celesse Souris by scrolling up heres what has been discussed of her here >>>/snow/2042185

No. 2497936

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>>2497846
Am I missing something or is this a whole lot of nothing? Admittedly I skim read the doc because I'm at work, but really, is that it? The three things Juby presents is:
>Genice made a character with ribbon wings when Juby already has a character with ribbon wings (which isn't an original concept in the first place)
>Genice may have been inspired by/referenced an art piece by Juby
>Genice introduced the concept of guardian spirits in her project, when Juby already had that concept. She also allegedly copied the phrasing from an old tweet by Juby (lmao)
I'm genuinely confused. Is that it? Juby flat out says at the beginning of the document that she helped Genice brainstorm Eden's Gate. Both projects are inspired by their Christian faith. Of course it's going to have similarities, especially when you're the one that's helping her come up with ideas.

What a whole nothing-burger. The discord messages from Genice made me cringe because you can just tell she is bending over backwards to try to appease Genice. The religious manifesto is weird, I'll admit it. I don't get Christfags, but I can't really hold the manifesto against Genice, since it seems that her way of getting out of a toxic friendship is through her religion. I really hope this doesn't blow up for her. Juby timing this around Genice's shop opening is just nasty

No. 2497939

>>2497927
>>2497935
Ayrt thank you nona!!

No. 2497945

File: 1745441468787.jpg (1.71 MB, 1440x3300, F8he11PoRM.jpg)

>>2497910
>>2497927
>>2497935
>>2497939
Oopsie, here's the correct post then. Since there's a lot of media on it I'm not grabbing everything; it's all just examples of pedoshit anyway.

No. 2497949

>>2497936
Neither of them really seem Christian since they (or just Juby?) have demon characters she included a friendship with a demon. That’s not something a Christian would glorify. I can’t keep track with this drama because Genice’s examples haven’t really been shown and the focus is all Juby’s rambling/jealousy so I don’t care but if they say they’re Christian and have demon characters it needed to clarified.

No. 2497959

>>2497672
Unfortunately the animation and entertainment industry in general are full of pedos so I really doubt anything really happened to her.

No. 2497961

>>2496068
i can relate to you nona but in my case is seeing an interesting tiktok video, caz they swapped to ''long form'' content 2 years ago i believe but being unable to contribute to the discussion since they have a 2 sentence limit per comment and if i reply to myself to add to the content of the clip i just get mean comments about being weird for daring to comment under a video in more then 2 sentences long and said comment not being recycled meme phrase done to death

No. 2497968

>>2497949
One of Genice's tweets in that screenshot says something about the MC saving the demon (could be reading that wrong) which has parallels to or is directly inspired by the fact that a lot of Christians believe that Satan and all the other demons could return to heaven if they were repentant and thus purified and saved. Though really it depends on the intention of the character, however I don't think it matters that much especially when Christians write worse stuff.
>>2497936
I mean, it was always going to be nothing more than airing out personal spats. It's funny how Juby brings up Genice being weird about God as if no one was listening to her during her live streams.

No. 2497972

>>2497878
Juby's document makes me want to kms it's so obnoxiously worded. Is this also a result of being Christian or is this a BPD feature

No. 2497980

>>2497968
I don’t know what you mean by worse stuff but your example of demons being able to repent is not Biblical. It sounds like mysticism mixed in with Christianity, which would explain why one or both of them think it’s ok to have demon characters portrayed in a good light in their story.

No. 2497983

>>2497972
That's just how she is. Her streams are equally obnoxious to listen to
>>2497968
>it was always going to be nothing more than airing out personal spats
That's what I figured but from the way Juby was hyping up her callout post for months on stream, you'd think it'd be more substantial and not just pages of Juby misconstruing Genice's words in the worst light possible

No. 2497989

>>2497849
These problems she has are so.. minor. I can understand that straining a friendship, surely, but at the same time, Genice seems like a retard as well? Stealing ideas directly from a friend while she's spoonfeeding you them? kek
They're made for each other.

No. 2497990

>>2497972
>Is this also a result of being Christian or is this a BPD feature
shes both Shes a two in one deal! God sent us a prime bpd chirstfag lolcow (poor genice tho kek) I cant wait for this to blow over in her face

No. 2497998

Juby the BPDemon has wonderful art but holy same face

No. 2498000

>>2497983
I mean in her eyes she probably does think this is some strong smoking gun. It's funny to remember that this was 5 months in the making.
>>2497990
I don't know if it will blow up in her face tbf. A lot of twitter callouts rely more on emotion than the actual evidence being presented. Plus the majority of people that know about her crazy streams are people that think she is a true and honest victim.

No. 2498018

>>2497989
Yeah. Tbf if I asked a friend about minor shit she copied and she gave me corpospeak wordsalad instead of an apology I'd be mad as fuck too kekk. I'm glad those two found each other.

No. 2498024

>>2497927
>>2497945
I wonder if Kiwitards spoke about Kiki Pyon-Pyon (bunnyonvt). She is the worst of them all. Pandered to /pol/ and /vt/ from day one, causing dramas and talking shit about women and spew out racist crap. Actual admitted pedo who has vt mods as her simps, deleteing all of the evidences people gather on her because she became a bit too popular around certain chris-chan-tier lolcows. I think i saw some nonnas talk about her in /w/ thread?

No. 2498029

>>2498024
They have they have phonebooked another pedo vtuber too

No. 2498048

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>>2497624
She's on Patreon and currently works in Laika Studios I believe after Pixar lay offs. She calls herself "queer and poly" but would only ever talk about scrotes on her Celesse channel
https://www.patreon.com/c/littlelist/posts

No. 2498050

>>2498048
>She works in a UK studio
Oh they're fucked if someone leaks what the hobbies are of one of their employees.

No. 2498079

>>2498050
I’d love to see it but she’s a woman so they won’t charge her like they did with Kyle. His coworker Vee was a pedo but didn’t get fired or blacklisted but claimed she is now insane, which is an excuse. Also didn’t Koko delete her page? They probably don’t care if there’s no hard evidence. Look at Rebecca Sugar. She made EEE minor porn and got a lucrative career in animation. It’s pedos all the way down in animation.

No. 2498107

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I understand what Juby's going through with Genice. I had a friend who stole my designs all the time. I can remember three occasions and she admitted to one and said the other two were coincidences.
But I also kicked that bitch to the curve. Woman-up you fucking loser. Callout post wasn't fucking necessary. Stop spilling your to-do list to anyone who steals from you ONCE. Move the fuck on. Nutjob.
Picrel uses a similar colorscheme to what she was bitching about in her first issue.

No. 2498116

>>2498107
The color scheme isn’t unique. It’s giving me nostalgic sparkledog drama lol. Good for you for kicking her to the curb. I don’t often think artist friendships, or friendships in general, should be cut off at the first slight but if someone is blatantly copying you or stealing your ideas it’s best to drop them. You feel like you’re taking crazy pills when no one believes you (I’ve experienced that) but grifters are gonna grift so hopefully they’ll leave soon and find their next fandom/artist.

No. 2498119

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40k likes on picrel, nature is healing

No. 2498123

>>2498119
Ugly/fat being beautiful doesn’t seem to be dying off any time soon but I want to believe.

No. 2498130

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>>2497846
OH MY GOD ITS HAPPENINGGGG
I wonder why she chose to post this now out of all times though? She’s been pretty quiet lately and her posting about her streams don’t seem anything out of the ordinary, like she isn’t saying “come join my stream while I rant” etc, it’s more like “streaming with [friend] come join!”
I guess she was busy writing the doc kek. Can’t wait to read it

No. 2498139

>>2498130
She probably posted it because of Genice's success with her shop. Juby seethed when Genice was at Kawaii Kon so I'm betting this triggered her >>2497861

No. 2498168

>>2498119
His boob looks like a penis

No. 2498177

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seen on genice’s latest tweet….it would be funny if she continued to ignore all of juby’s spazzing and kept posting normally kek

No. 2498187

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>>2497624
shes on patreon under LITTLELIST, that being said she's trying to get some of her loli art taken down picrel.

No. 2498188

>>2498177
Kek I don’t use Twitter but has Genice labeled Juby’s comments as spam? That would be one way to block someone and she could post without worry.

No. 2498193

I used to think that juby was the insane one in this situation but after reading genice's manifesto I'm not so sure anymore. Seriously, what the actual fuck. Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the two of them are their own flavor of insane but juby is the most vocal one.

No. 2498202

>>2498177
That would probably be the best way to deal with it. If she talks about it, she would just bring more attention to the callout. Plus stonewalling Juby would make her seethe harder kek
>>2498193
They're both weird but I think Genice is less crazy solely for the fact that she isn't sperging like Juby. Juby has been fixated on this dumb demon oc drama for over half a year now. Meanwhile, Genice has moved on with her life and afaik, hasn't posted anything publicly about Eden's Gate

No. 2498210

>>2498193
kekk i feel like they're both crazy but juby is more of a narcissist bpdemon so that's why she spergs out in public. genice could either be doing drugs or actually need meds for religious psychosis. i think if a friend of mine sent me that "manifesto" i would be more concerned for her mental stability than my stupid donut steel OCs

No. 2498227

>>2498193
Genice may not be well but Juby is the one who seethed for months straight talking about using Christ's power or whatever to strike down Genice . Apparently there was also competion between the two over who was the best Christian (according to Juby so take that with a bit of salt) so I think it was the classic case of mentally ill/schizo butting heads with a bippie.

No. 2498240

something i'm not seen talked about… genice is like, ten years younger than juby, and juby is almost 40. juby says she 'adopted' genice as a little sister when she met her at 19 (when juby would be 29)… and she's throwing her shit over character design tropes over a project genice hasn't talked about or published yet.

tbh even if genice fully copied her OC… who cares? a 40 year old career artist throwing this hard of a tantrum over months over a project that isn't published? how can she accuse plagiarism when there's nothing that was plagiarized?

i don't really care if genice is just as awkward but juby has major predation/fixation on genice that is not okay

No. 2498277

>>2498050
>>2498079
>>2498187
I hope someone's saving all her art with timestamps and screenshots included. Pedo losers like her will only learn if they face direct consequences. I know lc doesn't cowtip but maybe kiwis could do something.

No. 2498280

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This is actually so scary and disturbing…religious psychosis is real
Yes both juby and genice are batshit insane, but I can understand why juby has been sperging out like that for the past few months. If someone like genice did that to me I’d feel sick, and of course juby isn’t the most sane person ever, so you get this car wreck.
I feel that we were wrong about juby kek, people kept saying she had no real evidence which is why she looked crazy to us, but she did in fact have everything in a little google doc getting ready to show the receipts. Sorry juby our based cow for ever doubting you!

This shows how being silent like genice is the best course of action, since if you do nothing, no one will know how crazy you actually are kek. And I’m not even done reading the doc juby posted yet, I just got to the manifesto part, but I’m convinced already

No. 2498289

>>2498280
I don’t know if I’d call it religious psychosis but I had a tentative friendship with a Christian who was creative. Neither of us suffer from psychosis but she thought she was demon possessed or harassed at one point (this happened with another friend as well). I had chalk it up to immaturity (late teens) and they were both adopted so there are other issues there as well. It’s interesting to see Genice’s writings because they’re somewhat divorced from the Bible and remind me of my past friends. Again, she’s more like being tossed to and fro in her emotions and her spiritualism is mixed with creativity. They’re feeding off one another for sure and it’s a crazy spiral, like watching a YuGiOh duel.

No. 2498300

>>2498280
naw man two things can be true at once – genice can have her issues and juby can be batshit insane. there's history and evidence of juby doing creepy abusive shit to others

No. 2498311

>>2498307
even aside from their ages, it also is driving me crazy juby simultaneously claims she mentored and consulted on genice's project only to turn around and say genice stole her ideas… that's how mentoring works, you add your ideas to someone's goals and projects. which is it? genice maliciously stole her ideas or juby helped genice with her ideas? it can't be both

I'm in industry and I casually redline and supervise projects for my own mentees and I handwave credit all the time because it doesn't matter. if they want to credit me, fine, but it's still their story and design end of the day, and I was there to help for it. is juby expecting a co-credit or something for characters to share color schemes? I don't get it

No. 2498316

>>2498300
>juby doing creepy abusive shit to others
That’s true. I think they’re both crazy but since juby tends to be more vocal and public about it, people may tend to think that she’s the only crazy one, while genice is “smarter” in the way that she tries to keep every drama she encounters as private from public eyes.
So I would’ve never thought that genice was a different kind of batshit crazy if juby hadn’t shared the discord screenshots and that insane manifesto. It’s clear that she did indeed be manipulative, and she knew that she was stealing from juby and that it was wrong since she admitted to it several times, but kept doing it anyway.
The part where she tried to trap juby into publishing Eden’s gate by asking her if she wanted to be included as credits in the book or not was pretty telling kek, either option would still lead to her publishing it
>>2498307
Means that the original poster deleted their tweet.
>>2498188
> Kek I don’t use Twitter but has Genice labeled Juby’s comments as spam?
Nah people can’t automatically block or mark certain words as spam, even if it’s listed under their mute list. What happened was twitter’s filtering system often filters random tweets as spam, this could happen because they used some potentially offensive language etc

No. 2498319

>>2498280
>but we really want you to read it
>we
As in, her and god?? God damn this is straight up cult shit. Religious people are so weird

No. 2498323

>>2498177
>have fun in hell
Kek I know Jackshit about the intricacies of religious spergery but wouldn'r that phrase in particular sent Juby into a spiral?

No. 2498330

>>2498323
>juby
did you mean genice? this tweet is replying to her

No. 2498332

File: 1745467250112.jpg (1.1 MB, 1343x2717, juby.jpg)

KEKKKKKK even someone called juby out a bit on her callout post

No. 2498338

>>2498319
>believing God will back up you donut steel oc hard copyright battle Instead of say, thousand of poor souls begging him to end wars
Must start checking the religious side of art spaces more often

No. 2498342

>>2498289
This shit is only funny as it is because those two nutjobs aren't in the same vicinity.

No. 2498344

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>>2498277
There are 83 (84 including a deleted one) drawings archived on a booru that I won't name or link to directly in case someone wants to start taking screenshots and archiving them all. Use base64 to decode the following link.

>aHR0cHM6Ly9ib29ydS5hbGx0aGVmYWxsZW4ubW9lL3Bvc3RzP3RhZ3M9bWlsa3NjdW0mej0x

No. 2498351

>>2498344
I feel ill. Also the fact that she works for laika studios, she'll be bringing down one of the last pillars of traditional stop motion animation if a twitter user goes lurking and is feeling blood thirsty. I pray for her downfall. I seriously, seriously, do.

No. 2498353

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No. 2498356

>>2498079
>unironically comparing rebecca sugar to a scrote pedophile like kyle carroza
this is why no one takes you seriously. Drawing edd ed and eddy yaoi isnt comparable to being found with terabytes of cp like carroza did.

No. 2498364

>>2498344
>Wednesday Adam's
Everything on there is gross, but isn't that a real kid

No. 2498371

>>2492928
Not gonna lie I think op is right in this sitiation. Like theyre not a famous creator theyre just a random person on the internet posting their ocs, I feel like most people would be weirded out by this. Also whats up with the retarded twitter overreactions? Theyre acting like op just called someone a racial slur or advocated for slaughtering innocent cats and doggies, this is not that serious.

No. 2498372

>"Nooo you see I HAVE to draw child characters sexually and pregnancy fetish art of them for men! I know it's not progressive or feminist, but it's my livelihood!"
>"M-my partner is a cp suvivor so I totally get it um you're right but like I like it from the fem gaze!"
>"I aged her up tho!" (design completely unchanged)
>"I actually decline underage characters!" (yet jumped at the chance to sexualize 12 year old middle eastern girl)

Actual cognitive dissonance ass response from this tra lesbian drawing kids pregnant. Get a real job that isn't catering to pedo moids, maybe? If your so-called progressive feminist and woke values can so easily be overwritten by a kink or moid attention and money you clearly never actually stood for them all that much and need to cut the online social activist crap

No. 2498373

>>2498342
You mean literally or in terms of talent? I don’t keep tabs on this but a few threads ago I thought someone wrote they lived in the same country or had the same origin country (SEA) and bonded over that. I assumed they met irl too.
>>2498311
Good point. Sounds like Juby waited hero worship since they’re around 10 years age difference - another anon said Juby is 40 now and Genice is around 30. But starting out at 18 and a 28 year mentors you? I can see why there was a falling out when Genice wanted to write her own work but Juby couldn’t cope with losing her sycophant.
>>2498356
Sugar drew underage porn just like that Chinese Laika hire, the only difference is she doesn’t have her own show.

No. 2498375

>>2498372
Who is this about?

No. 2498377

>>2498373
I meant in terms of location. I've seen people harming others over religious psychosis in my thirdie country. Just last week a teen boy set his classmate on fire because they had a heated argument over whether Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife or not

No. 2498379

>>2498375
"sapphicbump" and if she just said "it's fiction lol" that would have been far more ideologically consistent than the sheer amount of wishy-washy cope and retarded excuses I just read. These women should just admit they are into pedoshit and lolis from the start instead of pulling the same kind of "akshually she's 900 years old!" as scrotes

No. 2498381

Drawing ur whole life and still being mediocre at it is frustrating. I know, I know, "just practice nona" hush now I dont give a shit I just want to vent. Drawing is the only thing that I know how to do but my talents arent enough to impress even normies who brag about not being able to draw a stickman

No. 2498382

>>2498379
At this point I'd be more surprised to see a tranny or tranny supporter not be into porn of little girl characters

No. 2498388

>>2498048
>"queer and poly"
>only talks about men

Same as it ever was

No. 2498389

>>2498048
>girl
How old is she again?

No. 2498390

>>2498373
Ed Edd and Eddy yaoi so stylized it's almost comical that Sugar drew in an afternoon is no where near as horrific as consistently making old man x little girl art and projects.

No. 2498392

>>2498377
They both live in BC though. Genice lives in Vancouver and Juby talked about visiting Genice and her family before. I doubt Genice is going to do anything since it seems she wants to wash her hands of the whole situation. I'm also not sure if I buy that Genice has religious psychosis. I grew up in a religious area and some Christians, especially the more fundamentalist protestant ones, would act just like Genice did. American/Canadian Christians can just be weird like that

No. 2498394

>>2498379
These girls go from lolita to humbert istg.

No. 2498402

>>2497846
>after much deliberation
>so she can't obfuscate the truth
>implying she's doing this as a "preemptive measure" regardless of Genice not reacting
KEK, she finally got tired of waiting and threw away the whole "I'm waiting for Genice to try to pull any more of her nasty tricks" "omg guyzzzzz I totally don't wanna do this I really hate having to do this but I just know Genice is gonna force me to do it" "If Genice says anything even the tiniest thing she will feel my revenge" act when she realized Genice wasn't gonna react at all.
I'm not gonna read all that right now, does the doc give an excuse for her posting the call out now (like how when she specified Genice's name on bluesky her excuse was that Genice had tried to defend herself to a mutual acquaintance) or is she just acting like she didn't spend multiple months screeching out those ultimatums?

No. 2498411

>>2498402
People like this are always so paranoid and don't consider that their enemy isn't actually scheming that far ahead kek

No. 2498418

>>2498392
I'd laugh at the possibility of these two tards killing each other if it wasn't for the recent case of Sarah Buzzard hacking her pseudo Troon boyfriend into pieces, complete with cutesy artwork depicting her crime on Facebook

No. 2498441

>>2498373
>another anon said Juby is 40 now and Genice is around 30
Juby is 36 years old, she was born on December 11, 1988.
Genice is 27 years old, she was born on January 9, 1998.

No. 2498445

>>2497846
Fucking FINALLY. After skimming through a bit holy shit Genice might actually be insane too.

>>2498311
This is part of the reason why I'm not too sympathetic towards Juby because it still sounds like she practically handed over her ideas by mentoring and being a consultant. At the same time I can't fully blame her for crashing out at the weirdass religious psychosis, seriously.

No. 2498446

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>>2497936
>>2498402
>>2498289
>>2498280
>>2498227
Genice is clearly having a psychotic break. Forget religious psychosis, this just straight up seems like a schizo's first psychotic episode. She's like 27/28 so she's still in the window where schizophrenia starts to appear for young adults. Juby's probably not aware that Genice needs to go to an inpatient facility stat since she's got mental issues of her own by the way she annotated the manifesto shit as if Genice had written her some toxic Twitter rant and not 10 pages of schizophrenic delusions. If someone wrote a manifesto with that much focus on me as a person I'd be freaked the fuck out.

No. 2498453

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I'm going through genice's old tweets and damn, now everything makes a little more sense.

No. 2498510

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>>2498332
Another one, this person is a mutual of hers this time

No. 2498527

>>2498446
Truly a match made in hell, they deserve eachother

No. 2498554

i’m seeing people call juby mentally ill finally outside of this place too, this is beautiful
all it took was just her posting her callout doc kek

No. 2498558

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>>2498510
Also made a subtweet about the situation and went back to gooning to transformers porn

No. 2498565

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>>2498558
Kek seems like an obnoxious self righteous twat, you could say no one needs to see that online for basically anything and everything. Let juby sperg it up and cause psycho on psycho drama, it’s her account so she can do whatever she wants

No. 2498581

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>>2498558
how noble of you to remind us that

No. 2498588

>>2498558
Saying this while the cover of her twitter account is fucking transformers porn topkek

No. 2498616

>>2498390
Child porn has been stylized before, it’s no excuse. Sugar only got away with it because she has connections and is higher up than these other female animators who are also into child porn.

No. 2498630

>>2498364
The Adam's family is true and real and Cousin It lives in my neighborhood. The Thing is quite friendly.
are we being serious right now

No. 2498635

>>2498616
comparing kids being abused to ed edd and eddy porn is fucking wild. I get lolishit because its almost always referenced from real little girls and it looks realistic but fucking ed edd and eddy yaoi, seriously?

No. 2498641

>>2498630
she's probably talking about the actress that played the little Wednesday? why are you being obtuse

No. 2498665

>>2496543
Based cut machine queen

No. 2498743

>>2498277
>>2498344
Here is a larger archive:
aHR0cHM6Ly9rZW1vbm8uc3UvZmFuYm94L3VzZXIvNTM2NzMxNzQvcG9zdC80MDY4MjQw

No. 2498749

the plagiarism thing with juby and genice got me thinking
i only make oc appearances based on real life people such as actors, musicians, randos on tiktok, or copy some foreign artist’s oc like a jap artist kek. this one jap artist has a good number of followers and posts a comic and i like the design of a character of hers so i pretty much just copied it as an oc and i know she will never see my account ever. i don’t have much followers, we’re on different sides of twitter, literally who cares. im a bit more intimidated by chinese nonas since i know they can be very autistic about plagiarism kek, see mgong520, so i’d rather avoid copying their ocs.
if you must copy or take inspiration from a western artist, at least try to make it very different or just take a trait that isn’t obvious and unique enough. genice was a retard for copying the ribbon wings from juby’s oc, ribbon wings are a very unique concept and what’s worse is that she copied from her close friend who has access to her priv twitter so she was obviously gonna see it.

No. 2498756

>>2498749
mgong ocs are literally copies of hellsing characters though which is ironic.

No. 2498760

>>2498756
yeah i wasn’t really talking about mgong’s ocs specifically but how she always catches people copying her artstyle and either names them or subtweets about them kek, i actually don’t know of any cn artists who get into oc plagiarism drama, or jp artists either, it’s just western oc drama i usually see. might be because i’m mostly in my english speaking side of social media though. anyway im still more weary of cn artists because they’re always calling plagiarism out, mostly tracing and copying stuff, not ocs

No. 2498854

>>2498630
I was referring to the actress, who was like 11

No. 2498980

>>2498641
Why didn't she just type the name of the actress? There are enough people on this site that go nuts over fictional characters being sexualized as if it is just as bad as art if existing people. Fortunately, I was not going to invest my time in exploring the art mentioned in >>2498344 , as I value my sanity.
>>2498854
Horrible. She's had several actors over the years, they might all be underaged.

No. 2499040

File: 1745522206177.jpg (71.12 KB, 743x611, apr24.jpg)

Genice just posted this on bluesky and twitter. Guess she doesn't give a fuck about the callout kek

No. 2499051

>>2499040
She got dogpiled multiple times for racism allegations and left everything up kek I'm sure she knows that keeping her mouth shut is the best course of action. She has terrible fundies though, I've only seen her anime stuff before

No. 2499064

>>2498980
The drawing looks like it's based off Christina Ricci's portrayal, which most lolicons have drawn porn of

No. 2499075

>>2498635
You lack reading comprehension

No. 2499076

>>2499040
She’s currently successful and is trying to remain professional. Juby had/has professional work but acts like a newbie exposing her personal life kek. It’s not going to work out well for her.

No. 2499077

>>2499064
Least obvious lolicon pick me tell kek

No. 2499080

File: 1745525353918.jpg (83.9 KB, 450x638, Screenshot.jpg)

>>2499051
She was very professional in handling the racism allegations and offered a refund/replacement for customers that ordered the faulty charms. It still makes me kek that qrts in juby's callout post still seethe about the racism shit when genice went out of her way to correct her mistakes and refund orders when she was told it was wrong, theres no redeeming yourself to these tards

No. 2499083

File: 1745525640239.jpg (196.71 KB, 439x710, 8312Y498941294613467317ARU.jpg)

theyre beating her ass in the qrts kekkkkkk

No. 2499084

>>2498344
I know people say the animation industry is full of pedos, but I still think drawing art like that when you work for animation studios known mainly for children's movies is retarded

No. 2499098

File: 1745526627889.jpg (Spoiler Image,89.12 KB, 987x625, 21645617415161561.jpg)

>>2498344
presuming this image is a self insert/sona shes definitely an auto pedo what the fuck

No. 2499101

File: 1745526895924.jpg (Spoiler Image,109.98 KB, 1017x638, Screenshot.jpg)

>>2499098
samefag
>been thinking of making a toddler rig
BARF

No. 2499112

>>2498107
Good art, but the color scheme is so fucking ugly, gosh I hate red and black together.

No. 2499119

>>2499075
You lack nuance

No. 2499127

File: 1745529164547.jpg (81.28 KB, 363x540, 1728053063392.jpg)

>>2499098
It's probably her self insert, it looks similar to picrel

No. 2499216

File: 1745533486583.png (2.68 MB, 1534x1306, friend+power.png)

>>2498344
>>2498048
Does anyone have any link/archived version of Koko's storyboarding work? I was under the impression storyboard artists had a more solid grasp on drawing….i have a friend who's trying to get into the industry but keeps believing she must have this Da Vinci level of mastery. If McPedo Chou got a job on mf Pixar then it cant be that hard after all

No. 2499219

File: 1745533757527.png (675.52 KB, 699x1068, julien.png)

>>2494614
Took an hour of digging through the hellish ic 'chives so I hope this is what you're looking for nonnita
aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZpbGUvM3hGQ3hiU1ojWDREQVlTVktKZU9vNjViajRwZUZxREp4RXV4YXhObXgya2Z2NGhONjhMTQ==

No. 2499224

File: 1745534343592.jpg (33.4 KB, 1037x666, 76052eb588e9515ab6facd4307fb3d…)

>>2499112
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT THIS INSTANT

No. 2499225

File: 1745534445291.jpg (112.96 KB, 1024x768, 3315072756_afe90c0813_b.jpg)

>>2499216
You don't need to be amazing at art to do this stage of storyboarding, you just have to be at least decent at composition, conveying readable movement and perspective. If your friend is wanting to do more polished storyboarding or get into visual development she absolutely needs to be good at art.

No. 2499232

>>2499098
>>2499101
>>2499127
>uwu I'm so smol like a child guiz! Cant you tell I'm literally just a adult toddler into fatmoids!
You can tell shes a neposhit because after such blatant proof of literal toddler porn shes still working in animation studios which make shows for CHILDREN theres no way she isnt shoehorning her fetishes into these shows

No. 2499241

File: 1745535705831.gif (69.64 KB, 362x298, 1000030322.gif)

>>2499219
Omg anon that's it!
I thought i was never going to get it because i only came across the head studies one
genuinely thank you so much nonnita!!!

No. 2499245

>>2499040
BASED holy crap, she really is gonna continue ignoring her KEK
i really hope she keeps this up forever and never acknowledges juby, imagine how much of a melty this would cause her. did all that time and effort creating this callout only for genice to still not give her any attention KEK

No. 2499312

File: 1745538670711.jpg (200.59 KB, 720x876, 1000011283.jpg)

>>2499040
I can't wait for her livestream it's going to be glorious. her callout didn't go viral, the most liked qrt is telling her to take it down and genice is posting like nothing even happened kekk

No. 2499316

>>2499312
Assuming she will even have a livestream. (she probably will) This will be the livestream of all time to attend for me kek
Most exciting thing of 2025.

No. 2499337

>>2499312
Kekkk if she hadn't been seething over this on stream for months I'd almost feel bad for her. I wonder if Genice will even release that comic at this point.

No. 2499358

>>2498510
The way Juby keeps insisting that she ~tried so hard to keep it offline uwu~ as if she hasn't been seething about this on stream for months is hilarious

No. 2499372

>>2497846
people on juby's post worried that genice is having a mental health episode right now… does juby never make it clear this shit happened 6 months ago

can confirm genice is doing fine and just wants to move on from this toxic freindship

No. 2499388

>>2499312
genice's manifesto is schizo as fuck kek and the plagiarism "receipts" are as pathetic as i expected

No. 2499389

>>2499127
>married an ugly, fat pedoscrote with a nasty beard
how pathetic

No. 2499407

>>2499312
This tweet has 1.2k likes now, and juby’s callout has 1.9k likes so only 700 likes needed to get even and ratio her..imagine your callout post nearly getting ratio’d by shaming you kekeke

No. 2499422

I’m having fun keking at the juby genice drama, though I’m wondering realistically what could’ve been done, since it’s getting criticism for all sorts of reasons.
>juby shouldn’t have posted her manifesto
>but if she didn’t, then she’d just have a weaker callout and tell people “just trust me bro, she really did send me a ten page religious manifesto”
Maybe she could’ve just posted the manifesto without the commentary version, since most of the criticism I see regarding this part was shaming juby for going over this clearly mentally ill manifesto with dumb commentary like a high schooler
>she should’ve kept this offline as this is a private matter
>but if she never posted the callout, genice probably would’ve continued to release edensgarden which is plagiarized work, and probably for profit too
Though she still may publish edensgarden or edensgate in the future anyway. But at least people know that genice copied a lot of stuff from juby when making this story I guess? And that she also copies a lot from her mutuals and distances from them/unfollows them before they notice kek. Or they do notice and they don’t want to say anything
In juby’s defense, she did try to get genice to stop copying her but genice is a madlad and continued anyway kek, of course bpdchan over here was gonna sperg out over her work being plagiarized from. It was a recipe for disaster

No. 2499497

File: 1745554998555.jpg (338.77 KB, 905x608, _wnaMsZNv9g.jpg)

Such a shame V1V404 draws obvious sfw lolicon and lolicon pandering art because she has such a nice grasp on form and colour (not so much her recent stuff which is all muddy)
>>2499488
No pic attached but I'm assuming you're talking about Clinical Trials which, yes, that's her she didn't even try to hide. The twitter zoomers who called her out have long forgotten about her so no one is kicking a fuss.

No. 2499534

File: 1745560346409.jpg (464.98 KB, 1169x1994, 14422585.jpg)

>>2499312
>got ratioed by someone who was flagged as spam
KEK How embarrassing

No. 2499586

CSP nonnies is there any way to make your duplicate window black and white to check your values while you are still painting in color in the original canvas? like this but in values

No. 2499589

>>2499586
idk but i put a black layer set to "color" and it does that

No. 2499591

>>2499589
I know anon, i was talking about having the color layer only on the pop up window to check values while i paint in color in the original

No. 2499615

File: 1745570887215.jpg (845.12 KB, 938x2172, s.jpg)

>>2499422
Imo it should've never gotten to this point in the first place. Juby should've acted like an adult and either let it go or cut Genice out. Genice is dumb as fuck for continuing to take heavy inspiration from her after the first crashout but I can understand why she wrote that manifesto later when "sorry, I must've done it subconsciously" gets you picrel. Someone a decade older than her was hounding her like this for weeks over a literal non-issue.
>but if she never posted the callout, genice probably would’ve continued to release edensgarden which is plagiarized work, and probably for profit too
The design and vague story elements she took aren't enough to make it plagiarism. Not to mention that in her manifesto she says at the end that she won't do Edensgate anymore (or that she'll have to redo it fully if she tried it again) and that Juby can have her thing. There was no need to release all this. Juby's just mad it happened at all and venting on her stream wasn't enough.

No. 2499658

The reaction to Juby's callout on Genice gives me some of my faith in humanity back, glad people can still have empathy for mentally ill women in fandom spaces in this day and age.

No. 2499672

Anyone else get tired of the AI debate popping up in art spaces all the time? (and yes I know the irony in me bringing it up here kek) But there's always some doomsayer predicting the downfall of all art and creativity. Like bro come on read the room, you're in a space full of creative artists who love art and creation and who all hate AI. Even if art would become a niche thing then so what? None of us need a billion followers/clients to survive on art, all you really need is a few passionate fans and we're all clearly very passionate about art. And even if it's not a full-time job or anything, it being free and just for the sake of it hasn't stopped anyone from writing beloved fanfics, or to create meme skit videos on youtube/tiktok/etc for fun. People will always create and there will likely always be an audience for it. If you think art is pointless now then just fucking leave you know? Find another hobby, and stop being so negative to those of us who still love and believe in art.

No. 2499678

File: 1745578474434.jpg (345.67 KB, 1600x1132, 6ca7c979696a1a2b0da6fc7e56ce22…)

I am trying to get into painting backgrounds and i am struggling a lot jumping from value studies to actual original pieces. I specially struggle a lot adding details and making the piece go from random color blobs to something that looks more finished. Foliage is such a pain in the arse to draw.

No. 2499700

>>2499672
I only get tired of it, because of how obnoxious people can get. But I'm not going to change my stance on disliking it just because some people are annoying about it. I don't entirely agree with the "AI art is soulless" babble, as I don't find that to be the primary issue or case with it. It's more about AI art and capitalism.

>Even if art would become a niche thing then so what? None of us need a billion followers/clients to survive on art, all you really need is a few passionate fans and we're all clearly very passionate about art. And even if it's not a full-time job or anything, it being free…

Maybe I would be okay with this if the quality of life didn't feel like it was getting worse. I just can't have this acceptive attitude towards creative jobs or income from it potentially becoming limited. The masses don't care about whether art is AI or not either, as long as it's "passable", so the protections towards artists will be limited to non-existent.

No. 2499702

>>2499497
She stopped posting lately, did she burned out?

No. 2499760

File: 1745585009850.jpg (76.45 KB, 592x428, Screenshot.jpg)

>>2499534
>>2499312
>>2499358
the entire thing is backfiring on her badly KEK

No. 2499801

>>2499760
She just couldn’t help it. Juby can’t hide her mental illness kekkk

No. 2499816

>>2499615
Sure it’s not plagiarism but it’s obviously copied and if someone who had been my friend for years start copying a personal project of mine which she also had exclusive access to and eventually release a story like that for profit, it wouldn’t feel good. Genice admitted that she regularly copies from other artists including her mutuals, and what she did to juby’s project awc was too far for the usual “you inherently copy traits from arts you like all the time and that’s ok”, so I think a callout post was probably warranted, I’ve seen callout posts from chinese artists for less to be fair. And juby told her to stop many times and she tried to keep it offline, so i think genice kinda dragged her down with her by releasing that mentally ill manifesto because if it weren’t for that I’d think more people would side with juby kek.
But without the manifesto, her callout would probably be a whole lot weaker I guess? Because it would just look like your typical friendship fallout drama due to copying and overstepping boundaries. That would still be a good reference for if genice ever publishes edensgate, like a “hey this project has been heavily copied by my project despite many calls to stop, so please don’t support it, also she is a serial copier so if you’re mutuals with her watch your back, your oc and projects could be next” type of thing

No. 2499850

>>2499816
>so I think a callout post was probably warranted, I’ve seen callout posts from chinese artists for less to be fair.
Are you serious? Just because other people behave like insane dramamongerers online this makes Juby's schizophrenic 40 page callout post over some colors and a pair of wings seem normal and even warranted to you? Everybody agrees that it doesn't feel good to be stolen from by a friend but the proper way to deal with this was to kick that untrustworthy bitch to the curb and move on with your life. Juby instead has been malding daily for half a year. You should listen to her 7 hour stream where she airs Genice's entire dirty laundry and says things like her parents don't deserve such a shit daughter.

>And juby told her to stop many times and she tried to keep it offline

Baiting Genice for months by vagueposting on her twitter bluesky and making a combined 20+ hour twitch stream where she rails on her incessantly doesn't feel like keeping it offline to me.

No. 2499860

>>2499850
>baits mentally ill person incessantly
>they respond predictably
>obsess about them and how they responded poorly

Many such cases

No. 2499873

>>2499850
>some colors and a pair of wings
It wasn’t just this but story beats and structure as well as character personalities and goals. Call me mentally ill as juby but i wouldn’t want to sit and do nothing when some so-called friend releases a similarly religious based story that copied elements from mine and watch her get comments like “omg this story is so good, your designs and plot are so original!!!” and then profiting off it. Leaving that friend in the dust is in theory the best thing to do but that would drive me nuts. Juby did vaguepost about this whole drama on bluesky at the beginning where she was like “so if you ever see a project called edensgate just know that it was heavily copied from me” and that was probably a somewhat better call to action, she didn’t name genice at the time though

No. 2499875

>>2499860
this is the basis of so many "cows" kek

No. 2499877

>>2499678
Digital or traditional?

No. 2499892

File: 1745591391220.gif (276.71 KB, 220x183, icegif-130.gif)

>>2499760
>nearly 40
Holy shit no way I thought juby was in her early 30s also kekkk it went the way we predicted it would

No. 2499893

File: 1745591417861.jpeg (Spoiler Image,1.31 MB, 1179x1424, IMG_2840.jpeg)

Someone save this woman from herself already

No. 2499894

>>2499860
This shit happened to me in my personal life, I was spiraling so fucking hard after literal years of taking shit and trying to be a "good person" about it, but I snapped when I got SA'd and became pretty toxic for a while. A bpdchan friend of mine decided to collect receipts of me spiraling under an alias and sent them to everyone I knew and I lost all of my friends. I was acting kind of fucked to be fair, but also to be fair to me, when I was forced out of that social group and met new people, they treated me way better and I mysteriously slowly began to stop displaying those toxic behaviors. So seeing genice's clear mental illness being noted by people and thinking Juby is kind of an unempathetic sociopath herself brings me great secondhand catharsis. Sometimes, people just aren't really as bad as your victim complex wants you to think.

No. 2499896

>>2499219
>>2499241
How is this hash used? I've been looking for this too.

No. 2499897

>>2499893
The fact that TIF arc was more tolerable really says a lot.

No. 2499898

>>2499873
>It wasn’t just this but story beats and structure as well as character personalities and goals
That's what she says, on that point she hasn't shown any proof of plagiarism other than 2 drawings (and the "stolen tweet"). Genice "admitting" to that is meaningless without proof since Juby by her own admission coached and mentored her on her story. For all we know Juby is the one who could have told Genice to go with the supposed story beats, personalities and goals that she now accuses her of stealing from her. And what Juby says doesn't seem very trustworthy to me, she is obviously deeply mentally ill. Her entire outlook on this situation is "psychopathic narcissistic abuse" of which she is the poor widdle victim.

>Releasing edensgate

But Genice hasn't, that's the point. And in her manifesto from six months ago she even tells Juby that she won't release it anymore. Why is she still losing her shit? If Genice never releases this thing (or releases it heavily modified) this is literally a fictitious issue.

No. 2499912

File: 1745592094525.png (180.94 KB, 527x651, ZtDn6jUpRba2WPJDKcaY6bw9US4.pn…)

Do you think araki would ever spiral on twitter about someone stealing his donut steel OCs on twitter for their own story

No. 2499915

>>2499912
no because hes a grown ass man with jump deadlines

No. 2499919

File: 1745592426728.jpg (430.36 KB, 1020x757, SpikeRoseredCharSht.jpg)

>>2499912
I mean, he hasn't yet. Probably because your picrel's artist change the characters just enough? Then again, bro makes so much money he probably can't see them kek
Some of my favorite designs are clearly ripped from him. Picrel is ripped from Kakyoin.

No. 2499929

File: 1745592822438.jpg (91.1 KB, 425x600, wish.JPG)

>>2499893
>28k likes
It’s over, she’s gonna keep chasing the dopamine of easy likes for coom art.
>>2499897
Ngl, even in her tif phase you can kinda see her heading this direction with how often she drew her tif self-insert like a slutty bimbo “femboy”

>>2499912
Did he even care when Clamp did it?

No. 2499933

>>2499929
Araki is generally pretty chill about fancontent. He's admitted to watching let's plays of JoJo games before, though he thought that whoever was playing them was too loud and annoying kek

No. 2499944

File: 1745593301312.jpeg (1.04 MB, 1179x1056, IMG_6311.jpeg)

>>2499497
What is your favorite thing about V1V404 artwork? Personally I think the way she makes the anime characters have 3d shading is unique, kind of like an anime figurine,and not what a lot of people do.

No. 2499954

>>2497945
This art is ass, just the same rehashed loli character over and over again

No. 2499974

>>2499944
Sometimes I feel like she uses anime figurines as shading reference and not just an intentional artistic choice

No. 2499975

>>2499919
Anything rose themed just makes things better for some reason.

No. 2499988

File: 1745596010073.jpg (120.57 KB, 1000x1000, tomoko.jpg)

Why do so many early 90s millennial moids have this art style? What is the origin point? It just screams "I grew up with megaman and pokemon and became an adult jerking off to porn of the underage characters while having lukewarm contrarian opinions on internet forums and deviantart while having a specific uninterested nerdy female artist I was obsessed with, then I may or may not have become a tranny 2018".

No. 2500008

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does anyone remember redkatherinee from tumblr? she got harassed offline years ago for being a terf, is she anywhere now?

No. 2500012

>>2499898
At the core of this issue is the fact that Juby is 10 years older than Genice and this friendship started from a position of mentor/older sister/idol as a 29 year old to a 19 year old, this friendship was never on equal ground. Juby is a mentally ill retard or a narcissistic abuser if she can't see the significance of this dynamic for herself. Genice obviously looked up to Juby and to have your idol accuse you of being evil just for being inspired by them must have fucked her up. Juby seems to be aware of Genice's personal history >>2498453 growing up in a conservative Chinese church, and used that against her. Genice's manifesto doesn't even come across as a mentally ill schizo ramble, it looks like a deeply religious defense from her in a reaction to Juby's goading. I'm glad twitter isn't on Juby's side either.

No. 2500013

>>2499988
you literally answered your own question kek

No. 2500018

>>2499988
It's just discount Shadman.

No. 2500021

>>2500012
I've seen some people try and say the age gap is irrelevant and make "25 year old minor" jokes, but the fact that they met 10 years ago is EXTREMELY relevant here. People love to act like your third eye opens the second you turn 18, but age 18 through your mid twenties is basically like a second puberty in a way, because you need to fumble learning how to navigate the world and how to find your place. It's an extremely confusing time, and people that age are also extremely vulnerable, it's just that fandom spaces tend to skew young, so nobody really takes this into consideration until they're a bit older, and nobody listens to older women.

No. 2500029

>>2500021
19 year olds are still teenagers with only highschool experiences and 29 year olds have a decade of adult experiences on them. The age gap is hugely significant here.

No. 2500031

>>2500021
yeah it seriously bothers me that people try to dismiss genice as '25 year old minor' – the point isn't that she's 25, it's that juby predated on her when she was 19 and basically creatively groomed her and then pulled a hell of a lot of spiritual abuse on her.

it also is annoying me how people take juby's accusations for copying as a fact because wtf, to me everything genice did with her 'designs' is just typical inspirations. juby doesn't own the concept of ribbon wings (it's a VERY common anime/video game trope) nor does juby own the red/black color palette (also a common anime/video game grope) and any claims that genice cribbed her personal project is suspect because a) there's no personal project released to compare, and b) genice already agreed SHE WON'T RELEASE IT in its current form without a lot of revising

juby supposedly mentored/coached genice on her project so she'd have to prove that genice listening to her input somehow means plagiarizing and I have NO idea how someone can pull that off

even if genice did maliciously copy juby's oc's…. girl, fucking grow up and move on, character designs look similar sometimes and the concept of color theory exists to be used by everyone.

juby is a textbook narcissistic abuser, I hope the pushback builds

No. 2500045

>>2500029
Why do people think that just because they had nothing going for themselves until they hit 30 that that's the case for everyone else? I'm 19 and I have a job, I would have been in my 3rd year of college if I wasn't so lazy that I had to repeat, I drive, pay for my own stuff most of the time and cook for myself. For most of the world, they learn to be self sufficient by 14 for survival but here it's like you're an infant until you reach menopause.

No. 2500049

>>2500045
Genice is from a conservative Asian household, I doubt this was her experience

No. 2500052

>>2500045
An important thing to note though with Genice is that shes asian american and asian families don't have the same expectations of independence as standard americans who are expected to be self sufficient and on their own by 18. Also being able to fend for yourself is different than having the maturity and rational thinking to make interpersonal decisions, you can work a job and live on your own but that doesn't mean you can't be emotionally stunted because of it.

No. 2500054

>>2500045
I hate to be the "you'll understand when you're older" person, but unironically, you'll understand when you're older. It's not a matter of what you're able to do for yourself, but a matter of perspective you've gained through adult experiences over many years. At age 18 I was paying bills, at age 26 I've accepted I'm too disabled to function like a conventional "adult", yet my experiences in life allow me to look at myself when I was your age as if I were a child who knew nothing.

No. 2500062

>>2500045
I agree its super fucking weird to treat a fully grown adult like a child. Moreso someone you dont even personally know. I notice a lot of women get treated like babies until we are into our 30 and then we are suddenly too old to do anything juvenile. Its fucking weird.

No. 2500065

>>2500062
Women under 25 are just silly immature young girls until it’s time to gargle a rancid old man’s tard juice, and then suddenly we are uwu legal adults who can consent. Then we turn 25 and we have 5 years to enjoy ourselves until we have to be married with kids on the PTA and the HOA wearing turtlenecks or some shit.(baiting)

No. 2500066

>>2499974
no, its all her shading

No. 2500072

>>2500045
she's asian, they don't get kicked out at 18 by their greedy boomer parents because unlike yt people, they know kicking out an "adult" at that age can be disastrous, specially if their kid is mentally ill.(racebaiting)

No. 2500078

>>2500045
You are still a child and you don't even know it. Being able to be self sufficient is irrevelant to maturity. Some people take care of themselves since they were single digits because of neglectful and druggy families but this doesn't make a kid with "adult" skills an adult.

No. 2500079

>>2500045
life experience is not the same as work experience or productivity, keep that in mind as you grow older

No. 2500080

>>2500062
>>2500065
Dont be obtuse, acknowledging the life experience/maturity gap in someone who just turned into an adult is not the same as equating them to a child.
While I agree Juby shouldn't be treated as some groomer nonce, Juby is definitely painting Genice as some irredeemable psycho sociopath that manipulated her, a disabled poor widdle victim, when she too is a grown ass adult who should've cut Genice off the moment she started doing "plagiarism" and only take public action should Genice actually relased her project which she didnt and implied to have cancelled in her manifesto

No. 2500085

>>2500065
Older women understanding that you need to be given grace and the room to grow into your own person as you begin to live by yourself for the first time and discover what you truly love about life separate from what you were exposed to during your upbringing isn't the same as viewing you as inept toddlers. You should be allowed to fuck up in your twenties and bounce back instead of having it be held over your head for the rest of your life as proof of what kind of person you are. When you're that young, you'll probably unknowingly get involved with manipulators, you'll have their general attitude rub off on you, you may become a more unpleasant person as a result. You'll develop bad opinions as a result of the group you're a part of, opinions you'll cringe at later. You're still extremely vulnerable to peer pressure until around age 25, as the frontal lobe meme is quite real, which means you'll probably make some fucked up choices you won't want held over your head for the rest of your life. It's okay to be young and dumb for a while.

No. 2500087

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>>2500008
I'd also like to know what happened to her. I remember that along with her, another artist named poehav-shy was also kicked out for supporting her.

No. 2500089

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>>2499080
Yikes, I'm glad she changed that design. The character does have ridiculous lips but the color she chose for them was a mistake. It makes me wonder if she could have avoided all this if she had someone to look over the designs before going through the manufacturing process.

No. 2500096

4chan is back, /ic/ is back

No. 2500100

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>At VanCAF 2016 she introduced herself to me. She was 19, I was 28.
This is something that has been bothering me for a bit.

No. 2500133

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>>2500096
we're back???

No. 2500141

>>2500133
Btw nonas were sad about not having access to dbag or whatever that ic general was called. For the record, the archives of 4chan was always up even when the site broke, and /ic/‘s archive is warosu i believe, so you can view it whenever

No. 2500198

>>2500049
>>2500052
Why does this matter? Aren't Asian people supposed to smart? There is nothing that YouTube university can't teach you if youre wiling enough. I'd even argue that my upbringing was even more strict and conservative than any American family. Due to how religious my family is I constantly get told that I've grown up in a cult environment and that my parents were abusive for not letting me have boyfriends while in school or for monitoring what i wore. Yet still, at 16 asking mommy and daddy for money or for rides got old super fast so I decided to chase my own independence.

>>2500054
Like I said, just because you realise things slower that doesn't mean it's the case for everyone else. At 14-15 I was aware of that fact that I had an undiagnosed mental illness so I made decisions in my life that I knew I'd be able to handle since I can't function like most people. I get that with wisdom comes age but acting like you're barely above vegetable at 19 is beyond infantilising. It's the treating us like we're 5 that's the issue.

>>2500062
Literally. It's so annoying.

>>2500072
Ik plenty of Asian people that know how to handle themselves. I'm not American and still live with my parents so idek what your point is really.

>>2500078
Being forced to mature faster because of a crappy life is not the same as a 19 year old who has responsibilities and is legally an adult. We are not prepubescent children.

>>2500085
Your experience isn't universal

No. 2500202

>>2500096
Was hoping that board would stay dead lol

No. 2500203

>>2500198
>Your experience isn't universal
Nta but ok? Neither is yours. Not sure why you’re coming in here telling us your life story and basically making this all about yourself.

No. 2500205

>>2500096
any anon who goes back there knowing they have loli pedo moids like >>2488829 as jannies deserves to be called a pickme

No. 2500207

>>2500133
>we're
Never come back here.

No. 2500219

>>2500205
Literally all of 4chan has tranny weeb mods, so does reddit, so does everywhere online, you realize the users don't pick moderators right?

No. 2500221

>>2500198
>Aren't Asian people supposed to smart?
Yeah you are definitely a 19 year old kekkkk

No. 2500235

>>2500205
I would feel far less inclined to return to /ic/ if lc was able foster an art community that actually drew instead of bitching nonstop about people who do.

No. 2500238

>>2500221
Fucking kek, literally. Her post reeks of "I'm a teenager who wants to believe I'm more mature than I am simply because I've passed a legal milestone". Seeking independence as a teenager usually means you're gonna be more fucked up and stunted as an adult because you weren't allowed to be guided as you were supposed to, therefore will stumble more in your twenties.

No. 2500264

>>2500235
The new thread here is pretty nice. I want more women-focused art spaces in general so I'm just trying to do my part in supporting respective threads on both sites. Granted I've grown rather tired of /ic/ but there aren't many places to go.

No. 2500280

>>2499816
>And juby told her to stop many times and she tried to keep it offline
But she didn't try to keep it offline. I'm one of the anons that have been keeping up with her streams. I archived most of her streams from late December to late March (I think I might be missing one or two) and of the 17 streams I downloaded, she ranted about Genice in most of them. Her rants go from being 10-20 minutes long to spanning literal hours. In those rants, she constantly name drops Genice and calls her soulless, cancer, a parasite, not a real christian, says she feels bad for Genice's family for having such an awful daughter (mind you, Juby has met Genice's family on multiple occasions), etc. and basically implies she thinks Genice is going to go to hell because she stole from Juby. Like the other anon said, she's also been vagueposting about Genice on twitter and instagram for over half a year now. Juby has also mentioned that she's literally trying to get Genice blacklisted in the industry by telling everyone she knows about what Genice did >>>/ot/2330961 . She's been a mentor/friends with Genice for almost a decade, and she's doing all of this because she thinks Genice stole three things from her. There's a difference between plagiarism and being inspired. Artists "steal" from each other all the time, i.e. they take elements they like and make them their own. From what I've seen in Juby's own callout post, Genice falls in the latter category. As sanctimonious as she likes to be, I bet if you go through Juby's own work with a fine comb, you'll find elements she lifted from other sources.

No. 2500286

>>2500280
Thanks for archiving the streams nonna, you should post that shit if you get the time because it's genuine proof of how manipulative Juby is. No normal person without a vendetta waits for the opportune time to post a callout like she does.

No. 2500288

>>2500280
not to cowtip but someone should compile a compilation of juby calling genice a narcissistic, parasitic, soulless, cancerous, piece of shit etc etc she definetly thinks she can get away with it because its streamed content (though shes stupid enough to keep her recent streams up in which anyone can save)

on the topic, it reminds me that Juby also had contracts with big industries like marvel but ended up leaving in bad terms because she aired out her grievances and openly slandered marvel in her twitter call out post (sounds familiar?) it seems like she had a built up vendetta because Genice landed a job at trigger and still maintains a good connection + sells merch of the ip she worked for to this day.

No. 2500291

>>2500288
Her rants were SO fucking unhinged, holy shit. I've never said anything like that about even the people who have hurt me the worst.

No. 2500293

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wait until op finds out juby has been saying 'nigga' on her twitter account and hasn't apologized for it kek she just recently deleted all of them except the one where shes paraphrasing her husband

No. 2500301

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all this chimping out about the demon oc's colour palette + wings being plagiarism when juby's oc literally looks like a knock off of starcanary's ocs

No. 2500302

>>2500293
isn't juby black tho? she mentioned something about it in the callout

No. 2500304

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>>2500302
No she's very much asian and she initially bonded with genice because theyre both asian diaspora, its her husband thats black

No. 2500305

>>2500286
>>2500288
I've considered making a compilation of Juby's rants and uploading it somewhere private (maybe to catbox?) but it would take sooo long. I have 40 GB of footage to sift through. The other issue is that she is very repetitive and just repeats herself over and over again across multiple streams. I haven't watched/archived any of her recent streams because she's just so boring to listen to after a while.
>>2500293
Kek I think I remember her getting called out for that and her excuse was that her husband was black
>>2500302
No Juby is Korean and she moved to Canada

No. 2500307

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>>2500302
>isn't juby black tho
Absolutely not kek

No. 2500311

>>2500307
>>2500304
>>2500305
oh okay i see now. i don't know any of these people i just read the callout.

No. 2500312

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>>2500307
>>2500293
not to encourage cowtipping but the urge is there….. if only you knew how bad things were

No. 2500315

>>2500305
you should release a drive of the streams and maybe we could collaborate on it. I'd love to edit a counter every time juby mentions "sociopath", "soulless", "narcissist", "im disabled" kek

No. 2500356

>>2500302
>isn't juby black tho?
she literally talks about being an immigrant here >>2500100

No. 2500363

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>>2499080
This isn't even a black caricature, it's a stylistic choice seen in anime. It's usually an "ugly" physical trait put on male characters, but it has nothing to do with being black. Of course sanctimonious twitter tards had to make it about race. She apologized and people like this >>2500312 are still calling her racist. You can never win.

No. 2500368

>>2500363
yeah it's a physical characteristic often associated with japanese fishermen from being out in the sun/salt air all day, it makes the lips puff out as though pulled by a vacuum. it tends to represent honest hard-working but unrefined men. think farmer yokels from the south in western media.

it gets unfairly attributed to black racist caricatures when it's a well established thing in japanese history/culture

No. 2500376

>>2499896
Search base64 and follow the instructions

No. 2500388

>>2500368
I am.pretty sure it's both? Equating naturally full lips to fishermen with swolen salt lips seems pretty on brand for Japan. I feel this line of thinking is going to head towards OG gyaru fashion debate.

No. 2500395

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>>2500368
Samefag as >>2500388 but people don't pull this out of their ass. Features drawn in this way have a very clear history of BEING made with racist intent. If anything, it is one of those cultural norms that should have been researched and removed than have people double down on.
Picrel is one of the racist caricatures from the jim crowe era, provided purely for backing up that perspective of its offensive nature. If it were kept to Japan in Japanese, it'd be less of an issue. Once the west happens upon it, then I think the reaction has a considerable backlash.

No. 2500398

>>2500395
i agree with you, I was only supplying cultural context within japanese media

No. 2500406

Normie artists are horrid at writting female characters, but in a subtle way that doesnt allow you to rightfully criticize them for not giving a fuck, it sucks. The revolting trend of writting women as perfect flawless gorlbosses has fortunately passed, but was hastily replaced with a new kind of cancer, because now female characters are "messy" and "toxic" and evil and whatnot, but still not in a particularly meaningful or interesting way, you can see them get pushed to the side by their own creator. If theyre straight they get reduced to being their boyfriends hot adorned wife, and if theyre lesbians somehow even less personality and humanity is allowed to them, they get called shit like 'toxic yuri', basically reducing the said character and her girlfriend to one amalgamination rather than separate conscious players. God the stench, I can fucking smell it.

No. 2500414

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Kekk

No. 2500418

>>2500395
I'm not really a fan of localized fanart and merchandise tbh, if you like something as an overseas product, then changing it to fit your locale seems a bit off? Something about it makes it feel cheap, like a knock off.
I'd rather get a Japanese Tokyo Revengers figurine with the manji included than one without, basically. Even if its a jacket, I just wouldn't wear it outside. Then again, if it's the majority then it's the majority, it's not something I'd be angry at somebody for changing when given backlash, I just wouldn't buy it.

No. 2500420

>>2500414
has 0 friends neither online nor irl

No. 2500429

>>2500414
What the hell even is mutuals?

No. 2500433

>>2500414
Kinda right for saying that though, friends socialize and do activities together, are there to support each other, etc. Liking and reblogging one anothers content isn't a friendship

No. 2500435

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>>2500198
Wow, you did not need to tell us you were 19 because you sound young. I'm not even that much older than you but one can tell you have not left your childhood egocentrism behind quite yet.
>>2499944
Like I said, I really enjoy her colour work and I also really like how she mixes plastic rendering with more "harsh" or grimy texturing. It's a nice contrast.
>>2499672
I hate most AI image debates because oftentimes neither party has an understanding of the other, AIfags/doomsayers don't understand art (you can tell because they always bring up the banana on the wall installation or canvases painted one colour in the modernist/abstract style) and many artists don't understand AI. And because neither is knowledgable about the other (and sometimes not knowledgable about their own stance so they make up bullshit talking points), they're not really debates they're just talking at each other thinking the other is a fuckwit. It's tiring and while I do not like genAI, I just do not need to relive the exact same argument over and over.
>>2500288
>>2500305
I'd be so happy if this ever ends up happening.
>>2500414
This person is probably retarded just based off the artstyle and character design alone but to be fair, someone who follows you back and likes your posts and barely ever talks to you is an acquaintance at absolute most. Treating mutuals like friends just on the basis of you being mutuals and nothing else is mega retarded and unsocialised behaviour.

No. 2500449

>>2500198
Kek I'm glad I was not this retarded at 19 but to be fair I was done with school before the lockdown happened and stunted everyone.

No. 2500452

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>>2500293
>>2500312
I always love when big artists are called out and some random person with a grudge reveals themselves. Imagine being in your late 20s and drawing like this.

No. 2500485

>>2499929
Araki and CLAMP are pretty friendly with each other, so I doubt he cared

No. 2500556

>>2500031
>basically creatively groomed
is that a thing now? different groom flavors? i agree with what you pointed out i think but this word is so odd to me now

No. 2500573

>>2500031
>creatively groomed
>spiritual abuse
juby is insane but be for real kek

No. 2500605

>>2500429
"Mutuals" are when you follow them and they follow you, mutual following.

No. 2500630

anyone here have some helpful tips with artblock? I tried brute-forcing it but it's not even that my drawings are coming out bad, it's that I'm basically physically incapable. I don't want to take a break or anything. I'd really love to draw, but even when I try doodling I just can't seem to do it

No. 2500633

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I'm so fucking salty about the artists that Capcom hired for the megaman comics. These people do shit that is either insanely bad or just short of acceptable, that I feel like we've been cheated out of something good. The worst part is that the things I want to complain about (specifically on this cover) are such non-issues to the mindless moid fanbase. Anime huffers don't seem to care when something is anatomically fucking awful, so me complaining about it anywhere makes me seem super shallow. But even upon announcement, everyone in the artist side of the community had mentioned "why didn't Capcom just hire literally one of the well-established fanartists???" I could name drop at least 4 other artists they could've hired but this mystery literal who (likely has established works in places I don't care to look) was hired instead and now everyone is going to accept his garbage and the WONDERFUL Iyan Flynn's writing as canon. I'll never be able to escape from it, and I know that if he does some bullfuckery like make Ciel and Leviathan a lesbian, it's going to fuck the balance of focus from touching moments of the series to this slop.
I'm so salty I'm so salty I'm so salty. Why is the anatomy horseshit I'm so salty I'm so salty

No. 2500649

>>2500630
can i ask what did you draw? i dont want to suggest something repetitive or that you've already done

No. 2500662

>>2500649
Some bunnies, some dolls, I tried some fanart, I tried to do a study, I really tried a lot! I even tried just drawing some triangles and I couldn't get the lines straight. I promise I don't think I'm being overly harsh on myself either, it's like my hand has totally forgot that art is something I know how to do.

No. 2500664

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>>2500633
It really is hard being a megaman fan these days I swear. The art is so wonky and ugly. Seeing Ian Flynn on the cover made it worse for me. All of the art is pretty underwhelming and I only found one that looks pretty similar to MMZ art style but that's not really good enough. Also what the hell is this? I think Capcom hates us.

No. 2500666

>>2500630
Draw things that you find fun to draw. No greater cure for artblock than having fun.

No. 2500667

>>2500662
oh you really did try lol
hmmm maybe copying a pic you really find interesting without taking it as serious as a study, or drawing shapes and lines with random colors even if the lines arent to good or straight, personally i like to do those and 2 minute figure drawings but idk if those would help you. Hope other anons have some more recommendations

No. 2500672

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>>2500664
Samefag but the comparison just makes me more upset. I really love the MMZ/MMZX art style. What were they thinking here?

No. 2500690

>>2500633
I could have penned this post verbatim. I hate Ian so much he is injecting his boring millennial agp slop writing into these quirky Japanese franchises I love, I want to cry,

No. 2500938

>>2500429
I can't tell if you're really fucking old or really fucking young from this question nonna kek

No. 2501003

>>2500633
The use of the mirroring tool on the character in front is offensive for a paid, professional cover.

Being a fan of an older/niche-ish franchise is hard because they put out materials but it looks like this

No. 2501006

>>2500672
Yabe makoto is so good, too bad he's a lolifag and a coomer

No. 2501058

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>>2501006
nta The art is actually by Toru Nakyama in that instance (also a coomer and lolicon). Yabe makoto made picrel

No. 2501094

>>2500307
>pig intestines
The fuck does that have to do with black culture (and I'm sure as hell she doesnt mean African black culture but American black) since when have koreans been enslaved by a whole fucking continent for hundred of years what a racist bitch

No. 2501109

>>2501094
I think she's referring to chitins or whatever they're called

No. 2501114

>>2501109
Chitterlings, or "chitlins".

No. 2501144

>>2500307
>omg we love hip hop and rap and had to eat shitty food nobody would willingly touch once!
Yeah! And remember when your people were bought and sold and treated like animals and only released a handful of generations ago? Remember how people's literal grandparents went to the first non-segregated schools? Remember how economic segregation is still technically a thing and people have to really pull themselves up by their bootstraps to escape the hood? Remember the social shame that comes with that for "acting white"? Remember how you had to give your children the "talk" about how to act in the presence of cops to reduce your chances of getting shot? Remember? Gosh, you koreans and black people, truly are two peas in a pod!(racebaiting/infight)

No. 2501211

How is no one talking about this shit yet?

No. 2501223

>>2501211
Because I am not watching this weirdo shit; anime girls in gritty and depressing backgrounds and locations is such a cheugy tryhard trend and it always has been.

No. 2501225

>>2501211
Because it's been talked about in the right threads for it which is the western animation thread in snow and m stop spaming this troons shit everywhere reeks of selfpost

No. 2501239

Anyone else hates when artists memefy their own work? I was excited about the judas rabbit cartoon until the author started posting retarded jokes about judas and jesus being gay. Im not even homophobic, like its not the fag joke part that upsets me, I just find it irritating how no one treats their own work with respect anymore and everything is irony poisoned.

No. 2501257

>>2501239
It feels desperate. Memes are something fans make, if the creator is churning out memes and shit like that it feels like they're the whole fandom because nobody else cares about their work.
>>2500630
It can help to do one or two simple exercises a day and let your creativity rest while you continue to hone your skills. Now's the time to do the really boring stuff like drawing lines on top of each other, drawing circles, and drawing cubes. Every few days you can do something 'exciting' like a single line drawing of a random artwork, shading studies, or forced perspective studies. Eventually your art block will go away, but your skills will have improved a whole lot.

No. 2501281

>>2501211
Not related to art. Try shilling elsewhere.

No. 2501284

>>2500029
Oh. This explains how a mtf groomed me in college. I never considered it grooming since it was the early 00’s and trannies were rare. I was 20 and he was 30; it seemed like I should know better at that age. He was subtle but had a lot of the same techniques and mannerisms as you see today. I thought he was a gay guy but he called himself a lesbian, for example. He also showed me a lot of porn.(derailing)

No. 2501292

>>2500301
Who? Maybe that’s how she got away with it because she’s popular.

No. 2501293

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>>2501211
This confirms my theory that this guy wants to troon out but is self aware that he's too ugly to ''pass''. Imagine wanting to be an animu catgirl and god giving you this giga man jaw and cartoony looking appearance. This guy looks a begginer concept artist first attempt at designing a villian CEO. He legit looks so much like something from hotel transilvania. What a cursed appearance. It's also ironic he made a whole short criticizing anime moe escapism when he's only know for being a Watanabe Akio copycat. He's such a tryhard.

No. 2501299

>>2501211
Do we really need to discuss western animation in four different threads?

No. 2501300

>>2501299
He's a thread art cow

No. 2501306

>>2501293
>but is self aware that he's too ugly to 'pass'
Probably why he put the characrer in an anime kigurumi.

No. 2501311

>>2501144
Ranting aside yes there’s been slavery and racism in modern day Asia. Go outside the US and you’ll see.(derailing)

No. 2501383

>>2501311
nta I don't think it is an exact 1 to 1. Not trying to compare them directly, but I thought South Korea enslaved the handicapped in the semi-modern era? I'm behind on my country lore. I remember the drama on tumblr relating to someone having a "helper" and mention of it made that corner of the internet explode.(derailing)

No. 2501415

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>>2501293
Massive agp vibes. He has this weird "girlsona" Claire

No. 2501424

>>2501415
>forgot to shave
oh no, so unlady like! god forbid a woman doesnt shave, dont you know that its dirty if women dont shave?

No. 2501485

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>pantsu_ripper is now posting his own (tranny?) nudes on his nsfw twitter acc
Holy shit why why why why why?
How does one go from picrel (objectively tasteful/charming) to being a huge degenerate who almost exclusively draws sloppy fotm porn and trooning out in less than 10 years? males are broken to the core

No. 2501493

>>2501485
>checked his nsfw account
>its real
oh how the mighty have fallen. He's so gross and ratty looking and has those snail tits troons get on hormones. I feel sorry for his gf.

No. 2501513

>>2501211
because it looks like a troon made it. i saw it in my feed cause i like magical girls but im sick of navel gazing troons trying to shit up the space cause they think madoka is profound

No. 2501519

File: 1745715582269.png (Spoiler Image,2.89 MB, 2193x1272, ahahah ohh my goooood.png)

>>2501493
ayrt, I saw your? previous post so I made this for posterity

No. 2501525

>>2501513
The funniest thing about troons is that they'll screech about supporting each other and then never looking at anything other than true and honest Nippon content. They are inherently disgusted by each other and themselves.

No. 2501531

>>2501519
Jesus christ this is repulsive. Is he even gay? he doesnt even draw trap or futa content, which i would expect of a bisexual troon. I wish someone could explain to me the phenomenon of straight moids who only coom to women and are straight but love to dress like sissy faggots for other moids? male sexuality is so fucking putrid.

No. 2501538

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>>2501519
>moid making Tsukumizu and Yume Nikki fanart
What a shame but it was a 50/50 shot that this was bound to happen just based off those two factors.
>>2501211
There's nothing to fucking say about it. It's lame and boring and overly pretentious, there's nothing to dissect that hasn't already been said about his other work.

No. 2501551

>>2501519
>AMLOver
Ew this faggot is a Mexican commie.(racesperg/politisperg)

No. 2501697

She’s so obsessed with chiikawa but can’t even be bothered to pronounce it correctly out the several times she said it in this vid, sigh

No. 2501707

is deviantart safe from the gendie and modern egg shell walking fandom culture? i never stopped using it but i never posted art just left comments and watched artists and i started noticeing a worrying trend of nostalgic tifs coming back to it but at the same time they do not use it they dump their shitty art and leave

No. 2501710

>>2500202
why? it is significantly better then 10 years ago, for one people actually draw for once

No. 2501717

>>2501707
Yes but it's also full of AIslop and posting that is encouraged there.

No. 2501718

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No. 2501720

>>2501710
NTA but didn't all the good drawfags leave years ago? Every time I've had the urge to briefly lurk on /ic/ it's all permabeg shit without fail.

No. 2501721

>>2501519
I remember him from the ol' 4chan days and thought he was gonna make it big in animation or videogame concept art, as his style of art is very popular. Oh well, another moid out from market competition.

No. 2501737

>>2501720
back when i used it 8-10 years ago it was only people arguing, doomer posting about ''never going to make it'' meme and never posting art, there was also resources threads but got overshadowed by people posting busty naked women models under the guides of ''learning anatomy''

No. 2501739

>>2501293
>he made a whole short criticizing anime moe escapism
it didn't read as criticism to me. more like sympathy towards the poor transwahmen who have to watch lolicon anime to cope with their lost girlhood and feelings of dysphoria

No. 2501743

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>>2501485
>>2501519
TRANNY NUDES WARNING. UNSPOILER AT TOUR OWN RISK
holy shit kek the 5 o'clock shadow. is his pickme landwhale ewhore gf still with him? i remember seeing his art all over my feed because my weeb friends kept repostinf his autism roller gimmick scribbles. good to know he's now even more statistically likely to kill himself. good riddance

No. 2501745

>>2501737
Back when I used it 1-2 years ago, it was all of that plus AI doom posting mixed in with poorly drawn hentai
>>2501743
…Is it really necessary to post tranny nudes in the art thread of all places?

No. 2501754

>>2501743
Why would you post this

No. 2501759

It's a little sad seeing women posting in the art threads on ic and getting painfully ignored even if their art is really good. I would give them advice but my art sucks in comparison. I wonder if they know about this place or if there are any other alternatives for ic aside from this board.

No. 2501778

>>2501754
>>2501745
i really hate him and i think this is funny. nobody is forcing you to unspoiler it

No. 2501785

>>2501697
she is the reason why chiikawa blew up on twitter and now everyone are drawing these little creatures raping others and doing drugs. hell, there are rp accounts who label usagi as hitler. i fucking hate people like her

No. 2501797

>>2501485
>(objectively tasteful/charming)
The one drawing he was popular for was a girl in a camisole strapped with suicide bombs under a trenchcoat, he was never tasteful or charming. Let's all hope he does a backflip next.

No. 2501802

>>2501710
>has been on /ic/ for ten years
Turn off your computer. Put your phone in a drawer. Go outside.

No. 2501816

>>2501697
I haven't watched the full vid because I find these annoying, but from the bit I listened she does pronounce Chiikawa right though.
(Unless you meant the accent/strong syllable/whatever is it called in English, but on that it can be either CHIIkawa, chiiKAwa or chiikaWA as in JP it depends on the phrase's intonation and not each word individually)

No. 2501822

>>2501816
people here are weird about japanese, just look at all the discussion about that pumpkin girl

No. 2501823

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She's still fucking going holy kek

No. 2501833

>>2501710
No it is not lol. It has gotten steadily worse and is more dead than ever, even with the shortly lived uptick in users thanks to covid. Moids don't draw because they're too busy stalking female artists and screaming about women who mog them between posting their shittily drawn anime slop hoping one of their loser peers will pat them on the head and call their crap "sovl." I don't even like to point and laugh at them anymore, they're just that pathetic.

No. 2501836

>>2501822
I don't care about retarded weeb nitpicks but PumpkinGentleman was still LARPing the whole time. Yes she did grow up in Japan but she also moved fairly young and you can forget a lot of a language within ~10 years, especially if you only know a child's level of it. Her stroke order was bad, her Japanese was bad and she was pretending to have just moved in the past two or so years and made up entire retarded stories about her experiences.
If she came from China or Indonesia or Thailand or whatever initally I'd still have the same opinion so it's not about "muh glorious nippon!!" I get that she's probably insecure about it but like, there's no reason she couldn't have actually relearned the language besides laziness and impatience. The whole LARP was unnecessary and only served to bite her in the ass.

No. 2501839

>>2501833
It really doesn't make any sense to use /ic/ for art when procreate and csp have their own forums where you can get critique and share advice. The quality of /ic/ discussion has not caught up to the speed of these programs and what's available online (tutorials, guides, online classes, freebies, etc). And contrary to what the other anon (who is obviously some 4chan transplant) said the artists who were actually good on /ic/ left years ago. And if you want free shit there are multiple sites where everything is shared. So unless you're a degenerate there isn't really a point to be there in 2025.

No. 2501843

>>2501823
Which illness can you get from other people being annoyed by you kek

No. 2501846

>>2501823
>these drawings with sob stories barely getting any likes
>no replies of people consoling her and just pity liking her tweets
>awkward mood after she posted that embarrassing callout doc which exposed how mentally ill she actually is to the public
>genice didn’t acknowledge her callout at all too
kek. The absolute state of juby right now. This is certainly one way to tarnish your reputation online. There’s just something so embarrassing about posting muh ~melancholic~ art about muh trauma and healing so soon after she posted the callout. You’re 37 years old…

No. 2501848

>>2501846
My bad, she turned replies off. But it’s still embarrassing to treat your main account with tens of thousands of followers like a personal diary. She shared way too much about her private life with that doc, and here she is continuing with stuff that would probably be more fitting to be shared with a therapist instead. As a private person I just can’t imagine how someone would do all this

No. 2501860

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>>2501823
>I can no longer stay a passive victim of my circumstances. I realized in order to be free and and be able to live again, I need to be there for myself in ways I hadn't
She is such a narcissist holy kek. Coping with the drama by drawing her epic self-insert power fantasy

No. 2501863

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>>2501531
He retweets trapshit/femboy porn sometimes. He retweets a lot of gross porn
>>2501519
Disappointed but not surprised, clearly trooned out because of agp

No. 2502014

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Art salt not about any specific artist but the way people love to draw Vi from Arcane with a weird happy trail drives me crazy.

No. 2502085

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>>2501697
>Jaiden
omfg I hate her shit so much. She's the epidemy of unfunny tumblr jokes and over-reacting over mundane shit to the point where it ruins the thing you like.

The only nice thing I can say about her is that she put her foot on the ground and created boundaries when people were drawing nsfw of her cartoon avatar and didn't go the pick-me route of encouraging it.

No. 2502087

>>2501823
>The weight I kept inside manifested as a psychosomatic illness for 9 years
Holy BPD, Batman!

No. 2502199

>>2501823
Juby you're nearly 40 get a grip

No. 2502236

>>2501839
Dose anybody uses /ic/ for actual art stuff?, I just used it to see petty moids fight each other and cry and piss themselves over the whole "never gonna make it" meme back in the day, I did noticed a change in the "culture" there since I was gone, people are nicer, it's a slight niceness but for how salty that board was that's a lot but I can not figure out if it's tims who think being nice makes them a woman or if there's an actual uptick of women users or the users not hiding their "womaness" anymore, drawing being there even if it's /beg/ is huge, back before generals existed I think /dad/? was the only one people will only post art on "draw this in your style" threads or you will see one singular /beg/ drawing in an a-log ridden threads that would get shit on immediately

No. 2502246

>>2501485
it is pretty sad because his enviornment art was neat, but with a name like "pantsu-ripper" its not surprising, plus he's been just doing generic lazy anime girl pinups for quite a while now. men will really throw away all their talent for the coom kek

No. 2502431

>>2500376
You're wonderful. Thank you.



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