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Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon

Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2
>where to find art
https://www.wikiart.org/es
https://artvee.com/
>other useful sites
https://film-grab.com/
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
https://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheel
https://freephotomuscle.com/
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili

Frequently Asked Questions
>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?
Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?
Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?
It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AI
Both the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?
Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?
Look through older artist salts or give context.

>Painting: Poem of the Soul - One Evening by Louis Janmot (1854)

No. 2503961

>>2503778
>Purely out of curiosity though, how do you feel about the shift? Do you prefer professional over commissions?
I love art so it's not like I mind either. They both have pros and cons. When you're a pro artist at a company like I was the deadlines are serious, so it's odd for me to not get one for commissions. It still shocks me seeing artists who take commissions that they might finish in 4 months, half a year, or maybe later, who knows! The worst ethics of some artists shock me.
The worst thing about working for a company is the art is more often than not their property now. I can't post it or share it. But it's also so highly customised to their brand that it doesn't necessarily feel like my own art anyway. It's cool to work on so many different projects! Seeing your art out in the wild at a real company is an amazing feeling!

Commissions are fun because I get to work directly with people who are passionate about their OC, or whatever they want me to draw. It feels more personal and I love the excited reactions from people. I've been lucky enough not to run into creeps or weirdos yet, but I imagine it's less fun having to deal with them myself rather than having my boss handle it for me.

I prefer doing both at the same time, which I did for a period and will aim for again in the future. You'd think I'd burn out but I have a workaholic personality when it comes to art so it doesn't tire me out.

No. 2503995

Amazing thread op

No. 2504005

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>Kasanemichael
Of course

No. 2504007

>>2504005
I kind of like the tampon twintails but it's made by a retarded tif so…

No. 2504013

>>2504005
>never met SOMEONE who menstruates
Only woman can menstruate, retard

No. 2504026

>>2504007
I was thinking the same thing. It would be cute as a educational mascot, I can see it being an ice breaker for the subject and make it easier for women and girls to talk about.

No. 2504030

>>2504013
I think he meant that most women aren't into imagery surrounding periods.

No. 2504052

>>2504030
Nta but he's a tranny so he's just bitter he can't and says "someone" because saying "women" is too much of a reality check.

No. 2504057

>>2504005
>sperm cramps
the actual fuck is that?

No. 2504063

>>2504057
Males pretend they get sperm cramps because they are jealous of periods

No. 2504067

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>>2503961
ayrt Thank you so much for the input! You're doing my absolute dream job and I love hearing about your perspective. Thank you thank you!
This insight will motivate me to keep striving for it I hope!

No. 2504087

>>2503961
Nta but I agree with you regarding artists commission deadlines. There have been several artists that I've wanted to commission and planned to tip high (bc their prices were really low for the quality) but I chose not to when I got to the part where they basically might not ever finish my commission or could decide to drop it at any given time.

As an aside to the other anon, I love the kind of client who just loves your art and lets you go. My favorite client just told me to do whatever, draw her characters or don't just "show off" basically. She paid extremely well, tipped into the hundreds and never bothered me about anything. I felt like a Renaissance artist sponsored by the Medici family lol.

No. 2504130

>>2504067
Glad to inspire someone!
Honestly one of the best pieces of advice I can give is to simply stay professional/neutral online. I see sooo many artists who ruin their own reputations! Don't shitpost too much, please do not throw self-pity parties as it makes you look incredibly whiny and unable to handle normal stress. Don't post about how slow you are at drawing and that you're months behind on commissions (I see so much of this!). You can still be fun and quirky and have your own personality, but it's gonna look better if you drop anything that isn't "brand friendly" so to speak: don't post about doing drugs, don't post thirst traps, don't beg for money, don't post/repost sexual things, don't be too political.
>>2504087
>There have been several artists that I've wanted to commission and planned to tip high (bc their prices were really low for the quality) but I chose not to when I got to the part where they basically might not ever finish my commission or could decide to drop it at any given time.
I had it happen to me as a kid, before I got a job. One of the very first (and few) artists I commissioned as a wee 15 or so year old made a public post cancelling all current commissions without paying any money back. I woved then to never do that myself, and I'm still incredibly critical of people who don't finish the work they take on now. That artist is also the reason I was fairly distant and unknowing of the commission scene until I evetually started doing it myself.

No. 2504199

>>2504130
How did you get a company art job in the first place? Did you apply through linkedin or just google "art jobs" or did they find you? I don't even know where to look. I know book publishing is inaccessible unless you have an agent.

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>>2504087
i feel like i've seen that happen more than once (with the same artist) and i always wonder how do they get away with it? is it because they get their commissions from really close fans or something like that? or do people not care depending on the money they spent?

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>>2504587
Ime of being a flake, it's always the first. I've since recovered from my ways (outside forces also excerbated things) but some people really make it too easy to procrastinate commissions. I feel like if they'd pushed I would have finished them faster but not a peep after even 1.5 years of silence on my end.

No. 2504882

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Navimoons made a portfolio. Wow, such diverse and unique artwork on her personal works tab
https://navimoons.weebly.com/

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>>2504882
100 cheesecake pinups and old pirate OC shit make the cut but i see her old equally coomy work doesn't kek

No. 2504888

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>>2504887
why is it this specific OC she wants annihilate from existence kek

No. 2504920

>>2504888
That was her tif self-insert before she peaked, she even mentioned being indonesian and giving that oc the same skintone as herself. This is also evident in how she immediately dumped it the moment she peaked and got a new big tiddy tradwife self-insert to obsess over and draw coom art over and over of (these artists are so narcissistic kek)

No. 2504928

>>2504882
Why do so many artists draw like this now? Even in an art class I was taking this year the professor asked a student if they could draw more body types because she would only make the same big hipped / breasted woman for every illustration

No. 2504957

>>2504928
Because the artist is a coomer or got secondhand brainrot from all the coomers drawing like this

No. 2504997

Kek juby had a stream eight hours ago, her first after that disastrous callout post
Did anyone happen to watch? I’m gonna skim through the broadcast

No. 2505003

>>2504997
Link the stream here

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>>2504882
the difference is like night and day, the sovl is gone

No. 2505010

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>>2505003
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2446383924
Her past broadcasts expire after a certain amount of time, I know a nona here archives them
>>2504997
Kek it’s only been a few minutes and I found some. Near the 51:00 mark
>there was a lot of projection, you know the ones in the comments, the ones who are thinking they are being self righteous about “oh she’s clearly mentally ill” and I’m just like okay

No. 2505021

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>>2504920
despite her retard compulsions, her yume spirit shows through still, i want to beli in her, please free my sister of her shackles "Porn" and "Moids" and show her the light of yooming.

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>>2505004
Why do coomer twitter artists always use this weird shading, like dark spot with a highlight in the middle?

No. 2505024

More on juby’s latest stream
1:01:15
>and actually a few people, a couple people reached out to me in email thanking me for actually putting it out there because they were gonna be directly affected and they got to avoid that

No. 2505029

>>2505023
Yeah, I always kind of hated that too. It makes the character look like they have a random boil on their skin lol

No. 2505036

>>2505023
it's a common way of rendering the skin in hentai, adding in blush brings more life into the skin usually but hentai does it because moids have a weird thing of making their sexual subjects/fixations look like plastic so they want to add in harsh white highlight but the animu girls are too pale for the white highlights to show up so they put blushing underneath, or they probably do it bc it adds another step to the process and that way they feel like more legit artists whose work is entirely necessary to society

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>>2505036
I didn't even realized that it's supposed to be blushing. Art like picrel makes characters looks like their skin is in oil, I see western artists doing that

No. 2505049

>>2505044
TBH I always assumed it was intended to look like oil or lube or whatever, like IRL porn with oiled-up women.

No. 2505083

>>2505024
KEK that totally happened. Yep. Absolutely.

No. 2505093

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>>2504005
"those with periods" WOMEN! Just say women it's not a bad word
this would be so cool if she wasn't such a woman hater

No. 2505133

>>2505010
She's so fucking smug, it's grating. You are almost 40 years old Juby and you sound like a high school bully giggling like a mean girl. What a narc.

No. 2505474

>>2505093
if they tried making this a thing in Japan they'd get arrested like that one woman clitorist artist

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A tiny amount of people said they found the Mary thing weird, she could easily ignore it. I don’t feel sorry for the bullying she got, she needs to toughen up if she’s gonna do “unconventional” topics and have a show.

No. 2505531

>>2505488
>homophibia
Kek

No. 2505576

>>2504920

did she really peak? in the good timeline she would have kept drawing the yaoi guy instead of going tradgooner(learn2integrate/fujosperg)

No. 2505586

>>2505024
Kek what does that even mean? The only people affected are her and genice

No. 2505595

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>>2505576
She at least detransed, she had more tweets about her feelings on it but they seem to be deleted. I would think she peaked because she quit the gendie crap in her art altogether, too bad it ended up being a monkey’s paw situation

No. 2505630

>>2505488
I was trying to understand the right most picture with the two cheerleading outfits. That's supposed to be NotKak's waist.

No. 2505645

>>2505044
sometimes it's not blushing. It's a way to give the body some volume, but they cam look as ikf they were made of jellygummy or smth tbh

No. 2505646

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>>2505630
Kek it was so funny when anons claimed ladt thread that the previous style was better. The Hazbin waist and stretched out legs do not look good

No. 2505652

>>2505646
The new style is fucking horrendous what a downgrade.

No. 2505655

>>2505646
nitpick, but I wish she wouldn't feel the need to emphasize the pelvis lines through her clothes

No. 2505658

>>2505646
The new style looks grotesque and sickly.

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>>2505646
I liked her old art but I think her new art is better. I like when women look reasonably human. Nitpick but sometimes she does things like picrel that completely break the illusion, I can't imagine anyone could secure an office job with bright red hair. I like the new change, but I think there are character design aspects that she needs to let go just because they're still too animu.

No. 2505661

>>2505646
i think the way she stylizes characters is fine but wow she does not know how to pick appealing colors kek

No. 2505665

>>2505660
the full block "orange hair" coloring is obviously visual shorthand for normal ginger hair

No. 2505674

>>2505646
The John K chest and colours aren't great either.

No. 2505700

>>2505646
the new style looks jarring and has no redeeming qualities.

No. 2505731

Hey guys, what is a more professional way to say
>Do not ask for mastectomy scars
on my commission sheet without it looking like a thinly veiled insult towards TIFs? I love drawing battle scars on characters, stuff that tell stories, but I really, really want to bar that on any and all designs. I still want their money, however

No. 2505739

>>2505731
"For personal reasons, I prefer not to draw (characters with) masectemy scars. Thanks for your understanding "

This sounds more like it's a trigger thing than the truth and may go over better.

No. 2505750

>>2505731
say you don't draw medical scarring?

No. 2505751

>>2505739
Wouldn't people think it's weird that she finds mastectomy scars triggering though? It'd only work if anon larped as a gendie on main and said it's because it gives her body dysphoria or something.
Imo she's better off just turning down people who ask for things like that by saying she's busy
>>2505646
I like the way she drew both bodies tbh it just feels weird on a character like Kate. Maybe if she had an older woman OC it wouldn't look so odd? Or maybe I'm too used to Kate being a twig idk

No. 2505759

>>2505731
Just say no scars. I have never in my life been commisioned to draw a character with a scar.

No. 2505785

>>2505751
>Wouldn't people think it's weird that she finds mastectomy scars triggering though?
NTA but maybe, though the important part is that it sounds like enough of a personal matter that no one will want to ask about it publicly. I've seen this a few times online and it seems like the only way to have a non-sexual non-wrongthink "won't draw" without being forced to explain yourself. I personally think that's fine enough for that anon's purposes, but I guess she could go with >>2505750 and say no surgical scars at all if she's feeling really paranoid about pushback from gendies

No. 2505788

>>2505731
>something something MY BLACK AUTISTIC TRANS DAD DIED OF BREAST CANCER AND MASTECTOMY SCARS TRIGGER ME
>sprinkle in emoji and cry typing as needed

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>>2505646
Prefacing this by saying I am not really keeping up with this chick. I think her new style is alright. It's not as bad as the anons who have emotional connections to her old art claim it is. However. The absurdly pointy tits and the over abundance of piercings draws away from the appeal of the new design…? The old art is charming though. I tried combining her old style with the new design to see what it would look like. Suffice to say, I'm not a fan. Something about the skinnier design is more appealing.
>>2505788
holy shit kek

No. 2505802

>>2505797
This is so cute anon! Her colours and slightly off style choices really causes her current work to look a bit weird. She needs to leave the way too dark grey canvases at least.

No. 2505807

>>2505797
Yours is so cute nona! I only know Brujo through the threads but I can see the appeal with both styles in a way. I just wish she didn't make Kate have that weird pelvis line thing and the pointy boobs in her new design. That's my only gripe with Kate's design as a whole.

No. 2505817

>>2505797
Yours is really cute but it doesn't resemble her art style at all it's too much of a departure. I don't get why she's changing her art style so much now that she is supposedly working on an animated project, she has the fans she does for her old art style not for her current experimentation. Her new art style is looking less distinct and more modern and generic. I believe the person who suggested she was making these changes to avoid being accused of giving teenage girls eating disorders might be correct.

>>2505660
The red hair is too iconic a part of the design, she can't just change that.

No. 2505820

>>2505646
imo the her older, more exaggerated styles have a stronger sense of appeal– not in a personal sense, but in that of the animation principle. I don't think that her new style is necessarily bad, but I do think it feels like it's not quite there yet to be something that looks eye-catching or stylish when animated or used in a comic, and her newer art feels like it has less flow and energy than her older stuff (pretty normal for an artist trying to improve fundies to over-correct like that though or have their art turn more 'mundane' or stiff).

tbh I mostly just think it's odd that she'd choose now to make a major stylistic shift in her work, but otherwise I don't have strong opinions on Brujo/her art.

No. 2505821

>>2505797
Woah, so cute! Yours is definitely my favorite variation, and has the best anatomy.

>>2505817
I think it looks great as a sweet spot between the two designs, but I can see why you would think it isn't distinctly brujo-esque, especially trying to imagine it in isolation. It would be interesting to try bringing back a little more from each side, like pushing it a little more towards the exaggerated skinny shoujo proportions in the old version, leaving a few more wrinkles and slight messiness like the newer one, and making her a touch more pointy over all.

No. 2505831

>>2505797
Your drawing has a better understanding of 3d space and anatomy, this is so good nonna!

No. 2505881

>>2505817
That makes sense.
>but it doesn't resemble her art style at all it's too much of a departure.
I was beginning to notice that too. It was fun to do though, and I think I have a bit of a better understanding what's missing in her new art style. Lowkey? I kinda recommend everyone who hates her new art style to do this too; it's pretty enlightening and might give everyone a better idea of what it is that they miss about that style.

No. 2505883

>>2505797
The new drawing doesn't have piercings. That's just the whipped cream from the milkshakes

No. 2505884

>>2505797
Oh my god, so much better. Great work. The colors are much less drab, it actually looks vibrant and cute.

No. 2505885

>>2505883
Fucking KEK I'm retarded.

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>>2505797
I kind of really like the long legs, but that's just because I like spaghetti legs in general. There's an appeal to them that was what initially drew me to brujo's art. For better or for worse it's the kind of stylistic choice an artist has to make. Some anons here like realistic bodies, some like heavy stylized.

The triangle tits are terrible though. They only worked because everything else was so heavily stylized. When she tried to make her art style more realistic features like long doll legs also stopped working or looked wonky.

No. 2506070

>>2505595
Her tif phase was way more tolerable than this degenerate tradgonner shit. I swear her art is one line away from turning into inflation/expansion fetish crap. That shiny fucking shading on the asses and round faces is grossing me out

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>>2503946
Nonnas how could I achieve this look in my sketches? I like the 2010s tumblr sketch style but mine lacks the fluidity. Whenever I go into a piece thinking I'll post it as a sketch, it ends up looking stiff with bad line weight. My sketches are too messy to clean up, and my finished art is too time consuming and neat to look loose. I use an outdated version of manga studio so my brushes are either too soft: airbrush, lighter pencil and watercolor, or the pen and oil brushes which are too sharp. Looking for a good brushpack but I know a bad artist blames her tools, so I want to practise technique first.

No. 2506095

>>2506091
Youre probably better off asking the general art advice thread on /m/
>>>/m/485635

No. 2506267

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Has any of you seen this?

No. 2506270

>>2506267
Attention seeking retard who discovered imageboards 2 days ago. Calling it.

No. 2506278

>>2506270
There's artwork of this character by multiple people in the gallery, do these people all post here??

No. 2506309

>>2506267
Wait, did lottie/Caihavepromo rebranded again?

No. 2506329

>>2506267
Didn't this person have tard drama with that kasanemichael TIF?

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>>2505646
The newer art is more stiff and boring to look at. Her style in-between was a nice middle-ground.

No. 2506453

>>2506267
YWNBE (You will never be Elsie)

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>>2505646
i don't like when people criticize art for having exaggerated proportions. 'where are her organs!!!' mfs. i like the new body type better but I also love when people stylize female bodies in cartoons (unless it's coomer shit). i have no strong feelings about her art but it does seem like her improvement has stagnated. the dull colours over a grey background are not helping.

haven't been keeping up with brujo as much as other nonnies so correct me if I am wrong - but kate is supposed to be a social outcast? i think that shows a but more clearly in her new design. she used to be just as skinny, pretty, and feminine as the popular girls but she was a nlog outcast for uhh. liking rock music and having dyed hair or something. i do not like the way she is smirking at me in picrel though lol. also seems like her new art has a lot of unnecessary extra lines.

>>2506267
tiktokers and normies have recently discovered the word lolcow. i think a lot of them think it just means 'person lots of people make fun of online'. maybe they actually are a lolcow, but I doubt it. likely they just got bullied a bit online.

No. 2506460

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>>2506309
yup it's her, check out the twitter account attached https://x.com/TOONGlRL

No. 2506466

>>2506091
This is a take that is made after just waking up, but I think this is less to do with "2010s style" and more to do with that era of artist being more willing to upload any ans everything during that period. On Tumblr, everyone had less professionalism, and would upload their WIPs, tutorials, and resources openly.
That being said, the fluidity you seek is likely acheivable through brute force. My own sketches were really stiff for a time as well, but doing daily, timed gesture drawings will loosen you up. The shorter the time period given to draw, the more you'll be forced to draw what you believe are the key parts of the subject. I know it sounds irrelevant, but once you build this warm up into your daily routine, it becomes a habit. The faster you draw, the more loose, and then you'll be doing the same thing in casual sketches.
May I ask what tablet model you use? I also recommend upping the sensitivity of your brushes (presuming Manga Studio is in fact Clip Studio Paint) so that the line weight is more openly reflected by your strokes.

No. 2506468

>>2506267
yes, this was over a year ago.

No. 2506487

>>2506267
This bitch is trying too hard to fit in. I hope her followers know that this is the "twansphobic" site not the 4troon one so they can fuck right off

No. 2506488

>>2506091
samefag as >>2506466
>My sketches are too messy to clean up
I took a second glance of your post and only really answered two of your concerns kinda. The key to a clean sketch is to use fewer lines overall. The chicken-scratch method can end up hurting more than helping, so learning to achieve things with fewer lines (i.e. two lines for the arms, one line for the neck, fewest strokes imaginable) should help too. I can post some examples in a bit when I get back to my computer.
>my finished art is too time consuming and neat to look loose.
This one is curious. I wonder if you are hard-locking yourself into a specific way of rendering finished art products. May benefit you to experiment a bit, but I think that's where new brushes come into play. If you start using CSP, I can throw you my "graphite" brush that glides beautifully for screen-less tablets like the Intuos. Though, settings vary per person.
>I use an outdated version of manga studio so my brushes are either too soft: airbrush, lighter pencil and watercolor, or the pen and oil brushes which are too sharp. Looking for a good brushpack
I highly recommend making your own brushes. Texture could help, since traditional media seems to rely heavily on textures. (oil versus watercolor, charcoal versus ink, etc)

No. 2506537

>>2506459
The new design is better, although making her an outcast tomboy feels pointless if she's just gonna end up a hyper-sexualized bimbo when she's older. Like a part of her personality was shaved away for the coom

No. 2506541

>>2506488
Thanks for all the advice, I use a screenless wacom intuos. I downloaded CSP a couple years back, felt too comfortable with my manga studio set up to switch over but I still have it, the graphite brush sounds great. The pressure sensitivity's a good idea too, I'll try it. I'm also very behind on my gesture studies, I'll make time to work on that.

No. 2506607

>>2506541
Sweet; we would have the same setup if you do end up switching to CSP. I can spoon feed you tips and tricks on CSP if you're interested in the other thread so I don't much this one up with screencaps and drawings kek
You can also move windows around to mimic your manga studio layout!

No. 2506633

>>2506459
I feel like a lot of her style change (extra lines and details) had to do with her getting frustrated with her copiers

No. 2506639

>>2506633
nta I wonder what it's like to have a skinwalker. I got frustrated with my own friend for taking my characters and swapping their aspects around. To have someone full-on skinwalk me seems terrifying.
Though a style I THOUGHT I came up with in the earlier days on tumblr is commonplace. Maybe I am not creative.

No. 2506674

>>2506633
That must suck. I'll never understand people who copy art styles one to one. Did you really have no personal change you wanted to add, no new thoughts?

No. 2506679

>>2506674
I understand people doing it to franchises, like Powerpuff Girls, Pokemon, Naruto, etc. but to actual individuals…? I don't understand it.

No. 2506709

>>2506460
when will she fucking leave the internet for good? im dead serious

this canihaveapromo shit has been running since 2023-2022, and i still see this artcow everywhere, she was milky in like early 2024, but every 1/5th post on art tiktok drama is about this one girl, you cant search “anime art” without getting trillions of reposts of her low quality artwork on pinterest either, when will it fade until irrelevancy ?

No. 2506713

>>2504005
someone should draw a testicular torsion inspired miku

No. 2506736

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>>2506709
samefag, another niche artcow for comparison, this artist (in the picture) got cancelled on tiktok for like a few months, and sure there were some artstyle replicas, dramas and reuploads that went on for a bit too long, but then after a while she faded into irrelevance, and everyone forgot about her and her artwork and moved on. that simple.

the thing is canihaveapromo is a self admitted attention seeker and people still keep giving her “all press is good press” clout. she got outed as a “problematic” YEARS AGO and her name is still brought up which i really dont get in comparison with other hated artists. not even brujo ari is this annoying because her artwork isnt crammed and reuploaded in everyones for you pages and she doesnt engage with trolls or haters.

No. 2506737

>>2506713
Miku doesn't need to be drawn with more balls tyvm. Testicular torsion Gakupo though…
>>2506674
Lack of creativity and envy, either due to being a child or being lazy and shallow. These types of people find something they like and want to have it and be as popular as them. For example when Dollieguts drama was at its peak, the amount of skinwalkers was also at its highest because so many people wanted a slice of attention pie. I have a friend who gets regularly skinwalked and sometimes they copy shit like her bio and her interests (she mentions how she likes green apples one day, skinwalkers make a huge post about how much they like green apples the next), it's very bizarre and abnormal behaviour.

No. 2506740

>>2506267
This is so ass you can tell that this retard hasnt spent more than 3 minutes on lolcow, average nona on here would rightfully call this out for being braindead moid slop

No. 2506756

>>2506709
Her last post on twitter was from 16 Dec last year. Is she offline or she is talking with internet friends on discord?
>>2506736
Imo all her problems came from the fact that she built up a chronically online tiktok audience at a young age and inability to stop feeding the trolls

No. 2506786

>>2506267
I remember seeing the loli gijinka somewhere but not on toyhouse.
lolis are banned on toyhouse, she shouldn't be up

>>2506329
she owns characters made by her though

No. 2506826

>>2506786
> lolis are banned on toyhouse
Wait what kind? I have a child oc on toyhouse but she’s not sexualized, that should be fine right?

No. 2506830

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>>2506826
I mean loli as in lolicon and shotacon, normal child characters are okay.

No. 2506892

>>2506756
Puririkia was 15-16 and also fed the discord trolls/critizers. Canihaveapromo was 14 them and is 18 now and still attention seeking and people are still brainlessly giving her attention. It still doesnt explain why people are still dragging this milk on in 2025. & She still has her chronically online cult on discord. I seriously do not get it. The point of cancellation is make people aware of what they are doing and stop engaging with them.

No. 2506904

>>2506737
>For example when Dollieguts drama was at its peak, the amount of skinwalkers was also at its highest because so many people wanted a slice of attention pie.
Kinda what happened with that fatfurry kiwifams cow who i wont name because she always self searches, and actively reads her thread btw now shes completely unapologetic to being a degenerate into diapershit, interacting with paraphiliacs, and being okay with her polish tranny boyfriend being racist while she cries about how calling her out for intracting with freaks is "queer/tim/poc persecution" and "pedojacketing"

No. 2506960

>>2506904
you mean puppychan? you can say it kek

No. 2506979

>>2506960
I know i can but she's so obnoxious i don't even want to kek
Also dont want the thread to derail into pro/anti discussion

No. 2507027

File: 1746161259125.jpg (95.83 KB, 595x841, Capture.JPG)

oh shit genice responded nooo she shouldve kept ignoring her

No. 2507029

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No. 2507035

>>2507027
She was doing so well, really should have just left it be. At least she seems far more reasonable than Juby.
Anyways archived link just in case: https://archive.is/durvd

No. 2507089

>>2507027
It would have been best if she didn't respond but since this resulted from a nearly decade long friendship with an 'older sister' figure, I can understand why she chose to. She didn't really address the plagiarism allegations specifically, but I guess that's fine since they were ridiculous in the first place. Comparing how succinct Genice's response is to Juby's 40 page callout (plus annotated manifesto/document) is kind of funny. I'm glad she's aware of Juby's ranting on Twitch. I remember Juby mentioned that she blocked Genice. She seemed to be under the impression that blocking her meant that she couldn't view the stream, but it just meant that she couldn't use chat. I wonder if Genice secretly watched some streams or if she had a friend keep her updated.

I started making a compilation of Juby's ranting but it's taking forever. It took me 2 days just to parse through the first stream, and I'm already at over 1 1/2 hours of footage. I thought the compilation would be 2 hours max but at this rate, it'll probably be around 3-4 hours

No. 2507092

>>2507089
share it here when you're done nona, i'm specifically curious about juby's comment on being jealous that genice vacationed in hawaii recently, some nonas mentioned that here but i never got to hear what it was in her stream

No. 2507097

>>2507027
that retard she couldve just ignored it
>>2507089
thank you for your service nona i cant listen to that bpdemon for more than a minute.

No. 2507117

>>2507029
I first agreed she should have ignored it but it's a pretty succinct and reasonable document I think. Jubi and Genice share too much of the same art network for Genice to not at least address it professionally once.

No. 2507127

File: 1746175110849.mp4 (16.14 MB, 852x480, kawaiikon.mp4)

>>2507092
I definitely plan to! The context was that in March, Genice was at Kawaii Kon in Hawaii. She had previously attended with Juby and they tabled together in 2024. Juby got triggered by this and was jealous that Genice was enjoying herself in Hawaii while she was stuck working under a deadline and suffering from a kidney infection. I found the clip for you. Later on in the stream, she basically blamed Genice for causing her kidney infection and making her sick

No. 2507138

>>2507029
>The language I used in that document is inappropriate outside of Christian contexts, and should have only been exchanged among trusted individuals, with consent from all parties.
i wouldn’t say it’s appropriate within a ”christian context” either, trying to invoke jesus in a fight over donut steel OCs seems like blasphemy if anything kek.
she really shouldn’t have adressed the schizo manifesto at all, claiming juby gave her symptoms of psychosis makes genice sound ridiculous. she should’ve just ignored it or said she was trolling. i can’t wait to see how juby will sperg about this though.
>>2507089
doing god’s work nonna

No. 2507142

>>2507127
thanks for the clip nona, seems very silly for her to be mad at juby for visiting that con, she just wanted to get mad at genice for whatever reason it seems. both of them have made docs now and im still disappointed that the part where genice was apparently telling “lies” and talking to their mutual friends wasn’t covered in either docs because that was probably what i was interested in the most. what did genice say to their friends about all this, and how did they react (before juby posted the doc and went public with the whole thing)? i wonder if they gave sympathy to genice which is why juby sperged out about that, she mentioned that genice tried to tell lies to their friends various times in her streams, including the vid you posted

No. 2507153

>>2507138
To be fair, a lot of people said that Genice seemed like she was having a psychotic breakdown and criticized Juby for annotating the manifesto. She might have addressed the manifesto because of that. Definitely excited to see Juby's response. She often streams at this time so she's probably awake right now. I'd love to be a fly on the wall and listen to her reaction kek
>>2507142
No problem! I'm actually not even sure Genice was at Kawaii Kon this year. I don't think she posted about it on social media, but I could be wrong. It'd be funny if Juby had that meltdown over nothing.
>i wonder if they gave sympathy to genice which is why juby sperged out about that
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever know. Juby did mention that a mutual told her Genice was defending herself, so she has at least one person keeping tabs on Genice

No. 2507244

>>2507027
Noooo, it was so obvious that Juby was desperate for a reaction, I thought Genice was at least subconsciously aware of this and purposefully not giving her what she wanted. Juby is probably beaming inside right now.
To be fair, it seems Genice gets more professional work than Juby, so maybe she was more concerned about potential commissioners/employers finding Juby's callout post (average company is probably not gonna delegate a whole person to comb through all the docs and comments and quote tweets and go hunt for 6 months worth of twitch archives to verify that the billion page callout wasn't made by a semi-schizo BPDemon out for blood over a petty vendetta) and missing out on work opportunities, rather than just the internet shit flinging side of it. Juby did say she wanted to ruin Genice's career.
I can't completely call her a retard for responding, but I really hope she actually sticks to "not making further comments".

>>2507142
The way Juby sperged about it, it sounded like the "lies" were just Genice saying something like "I did not copy her OCs on purpose as part of a machiavelian scheme to ruin Juby's life" and Juby getting mad that she couldn't convince their mutual friends that Genice is a literal demon. It was also obviously just an excuse to publically name Genice, so it's too dumb and meaningless to bother responding to at all.

No. 2507262

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>>2507029
semi-ot but the protagonist for eden's gate is really cute. a shame the whole thing had to be scrapped because of a bpdemon from an artist 10 years genice's senior.

No. 2507278

>>2507029
>Juby is 9-10 years older than me. In 2015, I was 17 years old and Juby would have been 26-27
KEKKKK I hope the qrts calling genice a '25 year old minor' are backtracking hard.

No. 2507321

>>2507278
Why? It's about her current age

No. 2507332

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>>2507321
Yeah I correct myself, they met in person when Genice is roughly 17-18 years at 2016 and became close friends at 2018 at 19.

No. 2507345

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>>2507262
Yeah, before Juby’s callout, from how much she ranted I was expecting the mcs to look similar or something. But from what’s been shown so far, Genice’s project actually looks quite different (and possibly more interesting) kek??

No. 2507397

>>2507262
>>2507345
I hope she still releases it, I’m kinda more interested in her story than juby’s

No. 2507398

Between this thread and /ic/, I see a lot of opportunity in spreading information and want to help change the way people view themselves and art. But at the same time, I find online classes to be kind of a hack and somewhat unhelpful (specifically if paid for), landing me in the art tutor preference perspective. That being said, how much is that even sought after? I know /ic/ is full of doomposters with no interest in the informative part of gaining skill in art, but what about here? I can't tell if people truly value fundamentals or even care about anything outside of instant gratification resulting from getting it "right" the first time.
Despite trying to gauge interest, I probably won't actually do anything with the information. Just curious. Like… personal trainers but for art, you know?

No. 2507549

>>2507397
Wasn't Juby's story just about what a poor widdle victim her self insert is because she's just too nice kek

No. 2507659

>>2507345
juby arts looks like the art of an average tumblrina circa 2016, pretty but not that really interesting and that tumblrina writing usually was absolute shit and cringe self inserts

No. 2507764

>>2507345
it looks nothing alike. juby is so insane. My favorite artists keep reblogging her woe is me illustration after the call out and it pisses me off

No. 2507772

File: 1746209069369.jpg (135.29 KB, 850x850, v1v404.jpg)

I know v1v404 was discussed last thread, but are there any other artists who do anime characters with realistic rendering like a figure that this thread would recommend?

No. 2507777

>>2507764
reblogging? what is juby’s current tumblr? i remember checking two blogs and she hasn’t posted on them for years

No. 2507799

>>2507398
I'd be interested, but how would it work anon?

No. 2507950

>>2507659
It genuinely has not changed at all in like 10 years. She's good, but she absolutely hit a ceiling.

No. 2507957

>>2507345
Even if their stories had identical themes, their styles are so radically different it would naturally create two separate reading experiences anyway. I didn't know Juby was the only one in the world allowed to write an anime story about angels and demons and magic. It sucks that Genice was bullied into abandoning her story, by a close friend nonetheless. Jealousy is a disease.

No. 2508043

>>2506736
I hate the pathetic expressions these style of pictures always have. Cross eyes with this stupid look on their face

No. 2508178

>>2505660
This character reminds me of ganondorf

No. 2508226


No. 2508227

>>2508178
Don't insult the Gerudo like that.

No. 2508333

nonnies whats the longest time you can just sit down and draw? i think mine is three hours and im okay with that but i remember spending so much time drawing before, and now i cant so i just wish i could last longer

No. 2508338

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>>2508333
14 hours no sweat. My body gives out before my will does (my legs fall asleep).

No. 2508393

File: 1746232508393.jpg (Spoiler Image,122.38 KB, 1046x1200, turkey.jpg)

is this the first time she's drawn them fucking unironically?

No. 2508402

>>2508393
What the fuck did I just look at
>>2507799
ayrt In a perfect world, it'd be something like a tutor helping another artist on a one-on-on level. Something about a personal approach feels better than just sitting in a class and potentially getting left behind.

No. 2508403

>>2508393
Why is every attempt at porn by a gendie so empty and unerotic? This looks so stiff and soulless, also KEK at the freakishly long arms. Kate from the waist up looks absolutely awful

No. 2508407

>>2508393
Why does the Jotaro tif look so sickly?

No. 2508432

>>2508393
Why JoTIFro blushing? Is the strap double-ended?

No. 2508479

>>2505488
Wow that makes a lot of sense lol. I wonder if they'll ever find out how Brujo had a meltdown over people preferring Mary to Kate way back.

>>2507089
Thank you nonna.

>>2507345
Oh wow, I was harsh on Genice for the weird manifesto and because she admitted to it but looking on this now she was likely trying to placate Juby or something. Visually speaking Juby's project looks more generic in comparison. These characters don't read the same at all let alone the style. This was no doubt about Genice nearly releasing her project before her, my sides.

No. 2508499

>>2508393
I really don't like to say this but this has the same vibes as a piece of Fanny's art. The weird colours, greasy bodies, strange anatomy (wtf is going on with Kate?) is just so eeriely similar.

No. 2508528

>>2508499
Her colors have been weird recently, haven’t they? The black background definitely gives it a weird, non-sensual vibe.

No. 2508541

File: 1746241299597.jpg (Spoiler Image,87.04 KB, 1348x1004, kate.JPG)

>>2508393
>skinny girls look good in clothes
>curvy girls look good naked
Cringe as hell kek

No. 2508543

>>2508393
kek this is so sterile, plus her arm is super dislocated

No. 2508545

>>2507398
>I find online classes to be kind of a hack and somewhat unhelpful (specifically if paid for)
I’ve taken online art classes and preferred them over the classes I took in college. They’re way more 1 on 1 when you can zoom with the instructor, I was able to share old art with them for feedback, it wasn’t just following a single assignment’s instructions.

No. 2508559

>>2508499
god youre right kek and theyre both painfully unsexy
>>2507772
theres a japanese artist called kinutaku on twitter who shamelessly ripped off her artstyle if you really want more of it

No. 2508560

File: 1746243076731.jpg (401.78 KB, 2048x2535, Tumblr_l_283781423425076.jpg)

I'd like these characters better if they were lesbians rather than a spicy straight couple with a TiF and a man.

No. 2508561

>>2508393
Like the other anons pointed out, long as fuck broken arms, the scary pitch black rape dungeon void background, the positioning being incorrect so the only way that could work is it being anal. Jesus christ, should have just drawn them fingering each other.
>>2508541
This one I do like though.

No. 2508563

>>2508560
Which is which?



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