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Fandom Discourse Thread #27 Anonymous 12/29/24 (Sun) 09:00:16 PM No. 2325146
This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping > Ao3 Censorship and TOS > Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers > Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads > Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama > ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters > Debates over death of the author > Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creators Related threads:
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>>1978406 Fujocoomer cringe:
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>>2293658 Anonymous 12/29/24 (Sun) 09:42:32 PM No. 2325191
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I'm deciding that bjds count as a Fandom. A lot of whining about blind box dolls from Amazon flooding the hobby on reddit and IG, and the usual "why are you so mean to ppl????" hand wringing on the one Tumblr confession blog left. Most doll owners seem to either like the blind box dolls or are neutral towards them. Personally, I think they're just another way to sell plastic junk.
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 12:28:00 AM No. 2325364
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>>2325191 Picrel but these are the kinds of blind box dolls they're mad about
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 04:47:33 AM No. 2325534
>>2325425 Something something gatekeeping something something capitalism
That's all you get out of them
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 08:05:29 PM No. 2326108
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Heard that a live action movie version of Tangled is confirmed, and honestly I'm hoping they make her white. People online spew the vile shit just because Disney changed the color of a cartoon's skin for free advertising. Making Ariel black made them go insane I can't imagine what will happen if they make Rapunzel black or Indian please just make her a blue eyed blonde white girl
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 09:38:39 PM No. 2326217
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>>2325531 Everyone always leaves him out in this discussion.
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 10:09:49 PM No. 2326254
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>>2326239 Disney has been hit or miss with male leads recently, I found the guys in Cinderella and the original Maleficent cute but can't say the same for Beauty & the Beast and the Little mermaid
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 10:50:37 PM No. 2326316
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>>2326281 Oh wow I just realized that looking back at the poster, I guess I am a fake fan. Don't think audiences would care much if they picked up a blue eyed actor instead of a green one though.
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 10:55:18 PM No. 2326328
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>>2326306 The beast's human form looks like John malkovich from dangerous liasions lol
Anonymous 12/30/24 (Mon) 11:37:20 PM No. 2326404
>>2326385 To be fair Harry's eye colour are emphasized a lot in the books, for its the only connection he had left of his mother, and many character reminisce about such when they speak to Harry.
I dont recall rapunzle's eye colour having a strong factor in determining she was the missing princess in the movies (though it should be noted that both rapunzle and her mother have green eyes)
Anonymous 12/31/24 (Tue) 12:54:12 AM No. 2326489
>>2326403 I wouldnt necessarily object to an Indian retelling of rapunzle, I just wish it wasnt a direct remake of tangled, and was an original stand alone story that happened to have cultural elements mixed with the folk tale.
Even better if it was an animated film. Maybe Im just a hater for live action films but honestly all these retellings wouldve benefited from being animated in the first place, even if it was in 3D. I hate how generic and boring big hollywood has become, everything has to be based off a pre existing concept or series nowadays.
Anonymous 12/31/24 (Tue) 01:27:49 AM No. 2326507
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>>2326502 it would be neat if they managed to incorporate hair oil into it. What if instead of rapunzle being born with blessed hair from a sundrop flower, the sun drop flower is created into a concentrated oil that must be reapplied onto her hair to maintain the healing powers.
There could be more cultural elements that could be influenced, such as a different plant to replace the rapunzle plants that grew in the witch's gardens in the og fairytale, but the first thing that came to my mind was hair oil
Anonymous 12/31/24 (Tue) 01:43:43 AM No. 2326530
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>>2326403 There were already unsubstantiated rumors of Avantika playing Rapunzel in the live action remake of Tangled earlier this year, and the amount of shit flinging about that fucking fancast was ridiculous. I'm praying they don't raceswap Rapuzel because another Inidan woman doesn't need to go through this shit at all.
Anonymous 12/31/24 (Tue) 01:49:04 AM No. 2326539
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>>2326530 samefag. Disney adults are fucking deranged
Anonymous 12/31/24 (Tue) 02:16:19 AM No. 2326586
>>2326507 This would be an interesting twist because it could be a major plot point that Rapunzel's parents invented the healing oil, and Mother Gothel framed and stole the formula from the parents, taking thier child to create an oil business of her own (and to hide witnesses). Mother Gothel could use gaslighting and distractions to suppress her memory of the event. Flynn Rider could be connected as a thief who wants to steal the healing oil formula but gets caught by Rapunzel.
Damn
nonnie , this is an interesting concept but unfortunetly we all know disney is going to retell the exact same story but in drab 'live-action'
Anonymous 12/31/24 (Tue) 02:24:31 AM No. 2326593
>>2326108 >>2326530 I'm not the first to bring up this tinfoil, but it's pretty obvious Disney is doing it on purpose to create even more racial tensions in AmeriKKKa. If the fake woke race ending works, they get asspats for doing the bare minimum despite their track record. If it doesn't, they can just blame it on blacks/indians not selling and use it as an excuse to have even less black and brown representation. Win/win on their side, but it's gotten so bad even black and brown people are begging they cast a blonde white girl so they don't have to catch more slack from Disney adults. Avantika hasn't even been casted and you already have retards like
>>2326539 losing their minds about it.
Anonymous 12/31/24 (Tue) 06:20:14 PM No. 2327298
>>2326417 I liked a couple of them but I haven't watched them in quite a while
Cinderella is still extremely beautiful though which is why I think it still has a lot of fans.
Anonymous 01/01/25 (Wed) 12:30:21 AM No. 2327588
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>>2327363 to be fair this movie didnt come from disney, but a racebend of cinderella had existed for a long time and I personally think it stands on its own as a good film
though its probably nostalgia speaking, i fucking loved this movie as a kid Anonymous 01/01/25 (Wed) 08:04:54 PM No. 2328364
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I'm struggling not to a-log so bad, as if her being voiced by a trans woman wasn't bad enough. There is one levelheaded comment that didn't immediately switch their stance after the TWAW responses in the whole comment section, and even then it's the most milquetoast acknowledgment of the game's obvious themes of workplace misogyny. I know that these men are pathologically unable of thinking beyond themselves and how things relate to their own identity, but their insensitivity and complete lack of tact astounds me. Every day I wake up and think that maybe the game was a mistake after all.
Anonymous 01/01/25 (Wed) 10:28:50 PM No. 2328556
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These comments are under an Instagram video about how men are reading less books. Feels related to fandoms, posting this here
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDXZbp6xYPl/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Anonymous 01/01/25 (Wed) 11:19:21 PM No. 2328640
>>2328556 Meanwhile, gamer men heavily praise
Portal despite it having feminist themes.
Anonymous 01/01/25 (Wed) 11:32:02 PM No. 2328664
>>2328556 >men read books that make brain hurt and expand >women read flowery books about introspection and love and peace on earth Would be 100% more productive to insult the utterly retarded writers and publishers because I don't like that shit or middle class suburban YA slop literature either. But is there even a point in drawing a line in the sand when the loss of quality is going to be blamed on women regardless of whether female readers enjoy worldbuilding or classics?
>women don't like worldbuilding Who the fuck are these people?
Anonymous 01/01/25 (Wed) 11:39:17 PM No. 2328671
>>2328664 Moids. Or, mostly retarded. Both are correct. Maybe their definition of worldbuilding is long expodumps on how a laser gun works. No one cares about that crap besides male sci fi spergs and their lot.
>>2328665 most of them say they do to seem smart until you check their bookshelf to find nothing. The fact that some of them in that thread liken the iliad to warhammer gives all you need on how literate moids are. Novels based on silly action figures does not count as reading.
Anonymous 01/01/25 (Wed) 11:44:10 PM No. 2328675
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>>2328558 Notice how the only women-led stories they're willing to read are the ones where women are sexualized or in sexualized careers. Very telling.
Anonymous 01/02/25 (Thu) 12:10:42 AM No. 2328704
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Male fandoms are so sad. Their favorite activities consist on powerscaling, posting "literally me" edits and drawing porn. Do they even process or create anything of value anymore? truly invested. Just look at picrel, the MLP infection trend. This was a great fandom concept several women participated in, creating AUs and cool stuff, while male MLP fans were just jerking it to the ponies and being embarrassing. It's women making these hyper detailed analysis posts on characters, talking about their personal interactions, background and personalities while men be talking about who got the biggest dick or something. I'm actually proud of us, when women join a fandom it automatically gets better
Anonymous 01/02/25 (Thu) 12:41:44 AM No. 2328744
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>>2328640 >>2328650 Silent Hill 3 too imo
>>2328704 tbh I agree. I actually thought something similar when I was in the Homestuck fandom years ago. So much fan content was made primarily by female artists and they'd churn out some of the craziest and most interesting ideas and fanarts. Even simple stuff like pic related was so fun and cute to me. This was also before trooning out characters was a super common thing so it was a great time kek.
Anonymous 01/02/25 (Thu) 12:48:22 AM No. 2328754
>>2328704 >>2328744 I never knew some of my favorite AUs were made by women until I looked at the themes and the way they were drawn to really solidify women's contributions to the fandom. All men do is coom and nothing else when before we had amazing gen fics that felt like earnest continuation of the source material. Is this why troons complain about the lack of f/f when all they could've done is just…make things? Making things isn't hard but I won't discredit the time and effort it makes to be good at art and writing.
This might sound blog but I use to be interesting in a stupid series of books from Japan that turned monsters into anime girls. After like some parts of it while hating the rest, I took what interest me and made something that most fans of those books wouldn't even dare explore like alternate sexualities, how women are treated, and obviously by burgeoning interest in monster boys kek.
Anonymous 01/02/25 (Thu) 02:55:53 AM No. 2328890
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>>2328754 >stupid series of books from Japan that turned monsters into anime girls Nonnie are you talking about
monster girl encyclopedia? Anonymous 01/02/25 (Thu) 03:02:43 AM No. 2328894
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>>2328890 the comparison between a moid's dryad desgin vs a woman's (ryoko kui in this case) is so jarring. Ryoko's dryad is completely naked yet it doesnt have the same coom vibes you'd get from the MGE one
Anonymous 01/02/25 (Thu) 03:32:24 AM No. 2328920
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>>2328556 Funny how they sperg about dislking the endless internal emotions being written, as if Dostoevsky’s writting wasn’t filled with internal emotions being written (an author they love to mention and recommend).
>>2328704 I used to see way more men doing good character analysis, of course not in properly fandoms, but “avulse” analysis in dedicated groups/forums to It, now, everytime I see a good character analysis, I open up the profile and notice It was clearly from a woman.
>their favorite activities consist on powerscaling Once I was reading an One Piece chapter (back when Wano country arc was still going on), so much information about important characters was being revealed to us and yet 90% of the comment section about the chapters were just powerscaling autism.
I mean, It’s shounen manga, I didn’t expected any different, what pissed me quite a bit was how the ONLY person in that comment section who tried to do a simple analysis by mentioning bible characters and comparing the situations was being massacrated by other retards in there.
Anonymous 01/02/25 (Thu) 03:36:30 AM No. 2328923
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>>2328754 >and obviously by burgeoning interest in monster boys kek Closest you're gonna get is alps