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>>1867796 No. 1878392
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So this never happened in the books, except maybe once when Ron got mad at Harry for how he snapped at Hermione… But even if she's read the books, I don't think it matters anymore because her perception of the character from fan-fiction has surpassed the actual story and the actual dynamics of the characters.
No. 1878683
>>1878502Not a huge HP fan. However, without a shadow of a doubt it's chokehold on the book scene was preeminent especially during the 90s and early 2000s. Trend chasers were quick to write ya/mg novels where 4 or more factions determined by personality and leanings then anything tangible like goals. mf divergent, a book released way later, did the same thing albeit to mixed success. You have to be some kind of retarded to claim "harry potter was cringe anyway". A literal cornerstone that defined history reduced to a case of sour grapes. And that's not to mention the multitudes of harry potter fanfiction on almost every site you could think of. You can't escape that little thunder headed bloke, he was everywhere.
>>1878661Kek, tell me about it. You have vizie burning in the stake for being little edgy than you have actual child grooming scrotes shoving their kinks into kid's media without a hint of remorse. What has this world gone to?
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>>1878683its insane to me how no one has called out this repulsive troon for his vile fetishes. Meanwhile vivzie gets cancelled every single day for drawing generic vanilla smut 10 years ago. Oh, and dont forget that when you call them out on their hypocrisy they pull out the ''well hazbin is for kids despite saying proffanites, but the multicolored clown cartoon thats available for free in youtube is ackshually not! so goosetranny is not a groomer like vivzie!!1!'' card. I find it insane how they will label hazbin hotel ''for kids'' blame vivzie for minors being exposed to loona porn, but ignore this degenerate troon and his fetish cartoon
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>>1878700he has every degenerate moid fetish under the sun. Its hilarious how he can get clocked on his moid fetishes alone.
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The TV tropes page on the Bible is one of the funniest things I've ever read.
No. 1879291
>>1879221You zoomers will laugh at the Bible on TvTropes but you'll never actually experience the absolute funniest section of the website: Troper Tales/This Troper and the Fetish Fuel example pages. They were the pages were the most autistic fandom dwellers and TvTropes obsessed users would basically overshare to the point of talking about how they shit, how they stalked girls they liked or how some Barbie dolls sported Zettai Ryouiki fetish stockings.
Around 10 years ago a bunch of Something Awful people started doing dramatic readings of the worst of the worst of these TvTropes pages (mostly Troper Tales instead of Fetish Fuel) and they got popular enough that they managed to make the TvTropes admin delete Troper Tales altogether and completely ban any kind of Fetish Fuel examples on the site (and other kinds of overtly sexual pages). They even got to have arguments over these bans on sexual topics which included gems that could be summed up with "If
Kodomo No Jikan is not allowed on this website, then neither should be
Lolita".
Recently the author(s) of these dramatic readings deleted all of these videos probably due to troll remorse (like all SA trolls), but we have a backup of all of them:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvxQQ9a5SHSCPjA-KvBgZ3_qPkvNBoLsiVid related obviously.
No. 1879356
>>1879291millennial here
this isnt funny
No. 1879360
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>>1879334>>1879356>this peanut gallery of weirdos and creeps isn't funny it's just cweepy!>on lolcor dot farmSasuga fandom thread
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Do you agree?
No. 1879381
>>1879360moids arguing about fetishes isn't entertaining
check the autism thread in /m/ for actual funny peanut galleries of weirdos and creeps
>>1879372they chose a strange hill to die on but at least they're dead
No. 1879393
>>1879381>moids arguing about fetishes isn't entertainingIt absolutely is. It's both creepy, funny and morbidly interesting. If you actually read archived Troper Tales posts you'll see it wasn't just about fetishes and creep behavior, it was a honeypot of autistic cows oversharing on just about any topic.
And even the autism thread on /m/ has weirdos like that guy who wants to fuck Reshiram and Moltres.
No. 1879421
>>1878392No one ever talks about passionately about the Hunger game books, which had plenty of actual writing issues with the female mc. kek
>ron was rude to Hermione once>WORST CHARACTER EVER>JKR IS A TERRIBLE AUTHORLike, they need to get over themselves
No. 1879433
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>>1878502>>1879414To me it's so hilarious how people are just mad about Harry Potter like at all, that book was such a huge HIT that it changed most fantasies, I swear cool magical schools didn't exist in cartoons, fanfics or series before Harry Potter, same as the whole stuff of having factions based on your own qualities and surely so much more.
And people are seriously trying to pretend that it wasn't that fucking good? Come on, that's just flinging shit like a monkey.
I will always laugh at the people acting like they totally didn't get Harry Potter tattoos, like they totally never consoomed any of the merch, like they never wanted to visit the places thay inspired JK Rowling, like they've never been influenced by Harry Potter or like they never even lined up to watch the movies the moment they got premiered.
I've never read the books because I'm too lazy so I watched the movies, but just from the movies you could enjoy the most important things, and re-watching them as an adult only makes you want to read the books.
The only thing to learn from this whole idiotic mess is that no matter what you do, as long as you're a woman, you can't try to cater to any crowd at all, just do your thing, make your money and let them kill each other.
No. 1879443
>>1879419This, it's an "animation is a genre" sort of feel.
Then again 90% of what is considered weeb/all anime is either only mainstream shounen, only cgdct, only bad anime, or only things made before 2005.
No. 1879448
>>1879372Furries try to pull the "b-but weebs groom too!" whataboutism every time they're put against the wall for looking past grooming in their communities. "Weebs" are a much broader audience ranging from little girls really into anime to gymbros into DBZ, japanophiles into seinen, fujos, yumes, jrpg gamers and so forth. They all come together to share their love for different anime, manga or game series but stay in their respective communities interacting with each other only occasionally.
Furries on the other hand are a niche audience defined by their obsession with anthropomorphic cartoonish animals and specifically their notorious amount of sex pests to the point it originally caused the rift in the community back in the BBS days. People who just liked "funny cartoon animals" were disgusted by people bringing sex and porn literally everywhere so a distinction was made and what's today known as "furries" is the degenerate part of that fandom. All furry media is centered around roleplaying, not any consumable form of media, so it's 100% community driven making younger people susceptible to be abused by the older content creators.
No. 1879484
>>1879372The weeb and furry communities are filled with an overwhelming amount of cub and loli content, questionable behaviors, and an extensive list of drama. Sane normies get unjustly kicked out yet literal degens can stay because they make me pepe go hard… hell, Not too long ago bronies suffered a similar debacle, but since their identity hinged on one gen and nothing else, they petered out like a wet fart. Thank god too. The fanbase was ass cancer and any soon former fan would happily go over why it should've died sooner. Had the misfortune of hearing horror stories about unhygienic bronies in cosplay in the heydays. They were like the bog ogres you'd hear about in fairy tales. Now most have trooned out or moved out of the hobby due to age. But with furries, there's no such thing as a primary source, only a concept. This makes it so that content never drains while weebs mostly stick to given communities like jjk and bnha. Doesn't stop the degeneracy, but it sure as fuck clamps down on the
sus portions.
>>1879448I enjoy anthropomorphic animals, but I am disgusted by furries who have taken it to extreme levels. Can't fathom wanting to fuck a m&m let alone a bipedal fox. then kids are gonna google their favorite cartoon dog only to met with straight up porn, hence the whole grooming problem. Wishing they were safeguards in place especially in this day and age.
No. 1879515
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>>1878502>>1879433The current narrative that I've seen is that HP was only popular because it was neo-liberal and millennials were stupid, Unlike us smarter zoomers who get all our information from Twitter and Tiktok
No. 1879532
>>1879515but wouldn't a decent chunk of zoomers still been within the HP readerbase/audience during its popularity(I know I was kek)? Sure, they would have been younger than millennial fans at the time, but it was a popculture juggernaut that came with the bonus of being a series of books that a kid could progress through difficulty-wise even if they were too young to be ageing alongside the characters, so they're an easy recommend to parents. The movies were almost unavoidable on tv as well during the 2000s/2010s because they could be marathoned and had reliable viewership.
>popular because it was neo-liberal…they're children's books, I don't think that's what garnered their popularity kek
No. 1879540
>>1879535I have a cousin a bit on the older side a gen alpha and tutor a kid who is 8, both of them love harry potter and are reading the books (or attempting to). Kids flock to it naturally and most parents don't know or care about the
terf thing.
No. 1879547
>>1879540I had to teach some teenagers during my internships these two years and lots of them wanted to analyze Harry Potter. Tbh this is not burgerland so I guess it makes sense that kids over here are less likely to give a shit about Twitter bullshit.
If anything, it mostly has been these two people I've talked to, a woman and a man in their early 20's that have sperged about Harry Potter "not being that good" and JK Rowling being le ebil
terf. Which is funny because everyone else just shuts up and looks away like "I will pretend I'm not here" or to avoid an awkward silence are like "woah really that sucks man" ad infinitum.
I'm usually like "Ah, I see. Anyways so"
No. 1879553
>>1879547Literally no one cares about trannies reeing about HP, not even most wokies. I’m in a discord with a bunch of gendies and this one girl is constantly sperging about le evil nazi
terf Rowling and how liking HP makes you bad and everyone just entirely ignores posting right under her that they played hogwarts legacy and enjoyed it and omg what house are you?? etc
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>>1879531>>1879532tbf it's not like there wasn't a strong correlation.
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The day fandom stops riding Rick's dick is the day we find true happiness.
No. 1879775
>>1879515HP wasn't popular because it was 'neo-liberal' but for some reason every progressive really really loved it. JKR supported the same rabid progressive fans that eventually tore her apart.
Conservatives also hated her books because something something witchcraft.
No. 1879832
>>1878697I feel the same with the "Assigned male" troon. He didn't have problems in trace a real photo of a baby for his fetishist drawings, but "oh they're meant to be my comfort drawings since I like ddlg stuff" and he's still selling books aimed for kids.
But nooooo, Vivzie is Satan herself.
No. 1879910
>>1879360this site is filled with normalfags nowadays, dont even bother. Its pretty hilarious, i miss stuff like
>>1879291 and MR metokour talking about weirdos on the internet.
No. 1880110
>>1880016There are definitely societal issues in HP like how the house elves are treated but none really play into the main plot of "muh pure blood" dark wizards. That plot has no systemic argument for it because the wizards live in basically post scarcity so there is no reason for reactionary authoritarianism to develop too far. The poorest wizards we see, the Weasley's, get to live in the middle of nowhere which doesn't matter because wizards can teleport wherever the fuck they want with no cost, have appliances that break which doesn't matter because of magic, and have to do a bunch of chores which don't matter because of magic. The absolute poorest family we know has a better life than 99% of the western world. Why be an anarchist when even the poorest fucker in your society can fuck off into the Amazon rainforest and live like they are in the first world? This is why the dark wizards work as villains and why the books are for kids. The only reason for them to be as racist as they are is because they are rotten to the core vile moidbrained animals.
>But what about how the creatures are treatedIrrelevant to the dark wizards
>But what about how the squibs are treatedIrrelevant to the dark wizards (who hate squibs even more than other people)
The only actual societal issue in Harry Potter is pureblood families were still able to be mask off vile racists between the wars even when they were known terrorists (Mr. Malfoy should have been rotting in jail 11 years before the story even begins but he isn't). In that case, Harry becoming a cop is a legitimate response
No. 1880122
>>1879838its just being a woman. goosetranny can "joke" about his fetishes and corrupting minors nbd
>>1879910>>1880119you can stop being butthurt and samefagging now
No. 1880136
>>1879448Don't forget that 85% of furries are gay or bisexual men, compounding the grooming problem even more.
>>1879464Coping furry
No. 1880146
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>>1880122You don't have to pretend everyone who disagrees with you is samefagging. Laughing at weirdos online, even absolutely degenerate and creepy ones, is in the DNA of this website.
No. 1880206
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>>1879775>>1879843Truth doesn't matter to these people, no matter how much evidence there is to say otherwise. Their sad delusions are, in my opinion, on par with Qanon cultists. take picrel for example, by all accounts, Marsha P. Johnson did not arrive at the stonewall riot until near the end, while who threw the first brick is contested, the vast majority who participated in the riot were White and Hispanic gay men. None of that matters though, they create the narrative first, and we are all expected to buy it, disagreeing means you're a bigot
(Derailing) No. 1880216
>>1880209It's about narratives and myths. The gay rights movement emerged from a variety of increasing civil rights movements and changing attitudes. However, discussing this may not be interesting. Its more exciting to focus on one "uprising" against the police as the main catalyst. even feminist fall for by insisting that Stormé DeLarverie actually threw the first brick, although there is little evidence to support this claim either.
This post on Tumblr goes more into it
https://web.archive.org/web/20220626014120/https://becoming-radfem.tumblr.com/post/628805520473653248/stonewall-riots-the-truth-and-the-myths No. 1880293
>>1880268If furries are known for one thing besides polycules and perversion, it's avoiding responsibility. They know their community is filled with drug addicted degenerates who groom teenagers and sick, depraved shit like Zoosadists and diaper fetishists throwing shit diapers around a hotel so instead of cleaning out their own space they try diversion tactics and point the finger at weebs saying "b-but what about them?!" and go full on revisionist saying that "weebs and furries were treated the same back in the 00's!" when that wasn't the case at all. Being and oldfag I can attest that everyone fucking loathed furries in the early to mid 00's while weebs were much more socially accepted in online spaces, especially because a lot of the younger Gen X nerds were into it. But furries were bottom feeders through and through.
In the early to mid 2010s everyone let their guard down and forgot why "yiff in hell" even was a thing, yet when the Zoosadist leaks came up people were forced to remember how furries are never to be trusted or accepted. I fucking hate how they exist in /ot/ and admit to being furfags in various threads like it wasn't a thing you keep as a shameful fetish you would never admit to liking even anonymously.
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This feels like a monkey's paw. I wanted more black/female charterers but not like this. It's gonna blow up in everyone's face
reimaginetomorrow.disney.com/assets/ABC-INCLUSION-STANDARDS-ONE-PAGER-6-16-21.pdf
No. 1880315
>>1880314>>1880313>b-but america too!both are wrong, how is that hard of a concept to grasp? the difference is that while hollywood at least pretends to be antipedophilia Japan is proud and loud pro-pedo to the point they vote lawmarkers to shield them from westerns that want to take their lolishit away.
>why do keep equating the degenerate otaku with the average fan who just reads manga/watches anime and calls it a day?why are you pretending as if loli/pedophilia is only a thing in hentai or niche otaku stuff when its present in fucking sakura card captor of all things. You have to be either dumb or a blinded weeb to not see how even manga/anime for little girls like shugo chara and CCS is deeply rotted in pro loli/pedo sentiments.
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>>1880313There's no arguing with them, they would quite literally die on the hill of shifting blame than admit any kind of fault. That's why their communities are rife with pedos raping baby animals, those people get enabled and protected all the time.
No. 1880324
>>1880318thats not my point, my point is that weebs dont get to call out furfags for degeneracy when even the mangakas of turbo normie shonen shit like rurouni kenshin and one piece are pedos
>>1880320i never said that, i just said that defending japan is pathetic when they will literally nuke all of america before giving up their lolis.
>>1880321sorry i dont watch hollywood trash, you are still defending a medium thats filled with pedophilia and created by a bunch of people that hate you for being ''politically correct' aka hating lolipedoshit.
No. 1880328
>>1880325you are so salty over being told that you are pathetic for defending a medium whose creators hate you and have a whole as committe dedicated to stop you from censoring their lolis, but keep cocksucking japan you are definetly better than furfags!
>>1880326loli is in mainstream stuff. Cardcaptor sakura has lolishit, Shugo chara has lolishit, sailor moon has pedoshit, most anime has 16yo sexualized high school girls. Stop pretending as if loli is just a niche thing you only find in the darkest corners of animu when, i repeat, rurouni kenshin guy was a fucking pedo, and oda defended him. Naruto's spin off has loli characters drawn sexualized. Like c'mon.
No. 1880331
>>1880328>cardcaptornever seen it
>shugo charanever seen it
>sailor moonsince when does that have pedoshit?
>kenshinnever seen it
>naruto spin offNOBODY has seen it
Stop making shit up about people in your head as if every weeb watches and endorses every anime in existence.
No. 1880334
>>1880328What do you mean by salty? Am I wrong?
If you're going to call out a medium for pedophilia, then go the whole way, hold the same standard for all mediums. If you're going to cut out all mahou shoujo because pedophilia, why won't you do the same for other genres that were influenced by pedophiles? Otherwise, you're just a hypocrite talking shit.
No. 1880337
>>1880331whats your favourite anime? i seriously doubt it doesnt have pedoshit. If it doesnt(doubt so) then its most than likely animated by a company that has also animated pedoshit and supports pedophilia. Denying that animu has heavy ties with pedophilia is like denying the sky is blue.
>>1880334I never said that, you stopped reeing and grasping and straws to justify your pedo medium. I was just making fun of weebs pretending they are better than furfags when both are equally disgusting.
No. 1880341
>>1880338That's not my point. My point is that loli and pedophilia are deeply rotted in the manga and anime industry. You can enjoy your ''unproblematic'' thing but i assure you it has rots to pedophilia somehow and that the author would rather give up water and food than give up their right to depict degeneracy.
>>1880339the point you have to make whataboutisms just proves my point. I am a weeb too, i just dont pretend i am better than furfags when i know that the medium i consoom is extremely degenerate.
No. 1880359
>>1880345no, i was just calling out the holier than thou attitude of calling out furfags as a weeb kek. Both are fucking disgusting, pretending otherwise makes you comes off as an hypocrite at best.
>>1880350again, not only you proved my point right because rouroni kenshin and sakura card captor are literally normie entry tier anime, but completly disregarded my point that mangakas, as a whole, choose the author of love hina as a representative to keep westerners from censoring lolicon. The lovely poblematic free manga you so love is most than likely published by the same people that publish '12 yo kawiwi-chan loves her oniichan so much she got reincarnated as a lvl999 sorcerer!!'.
>>1880352KEK holy shit you are a fucking cocksucking weeaboo. He literally brags about loving little kids and his manga is filled with little kids getting molested and gored.
>>1880358i literally never choose a side. I just said that you, as weeb, dont have the right to call anyone a degenerate. Sorry but being a weeb will always be frowned upon because of how heavy the degeneracy is in the medium.
No. 1880365
>>1880362you are a cocksucking weeb for pretending lolicon isnt a huge part of anime to the point mangakas in japan will literally choose someone in congress to shield them from their degeneracy being censored.
>>1880363i am not calling anyone a degenerate, i am just calling out hypocrisy. Both anime and furfaggotry are things to be ashamed of, like all nerdy shit. But ofcourse some people are so coonsoomeristic they will bow down to glorious nihon and their superior vietnamesse cartoons then do an 180 can call everything
problematic and twansphobic, like that weeb Xiriam.
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Not a fan of YA books in general, but the one sided rivalry that Percy Jacksonfags try and do with Harry Potter fans will never not be funny to me.
I'm pretty sure most Harry Potter fans don't even know Percy Jackson exists, I feel like Twilight would be the more comparable series but twitter/tumblr types also hate Stephanie Meyer so…
No. 1880390
>>1880388i never said you couldnt you sperg, i just said you cant pretend you are better than furfags as a weeb. I make fun of furfags all the time, but i disagree with
>>1879372 both weebs and furfags are disgusting.
No. 1880398
>>1880392you are consooming a genre made mostly by pedos so not really, no. Both you and a furfag would be shoved into the same locker, to normies both are turbo degen weirdos kek.
>>1880397again, where did i say that?
No. 1880405
>>1880404The actress behind the voice died, nona.
That's why she wasn't in it.
To begin with, in the anime it was nothing more than a one-sided crush, wasn't it?
No. 1880409
>>1880405>To begin with, in the anime it was nothing more than a one-sided crush, wasn't it?no, it wasnt.
>>1880406its removed from the reboot its still very prominent in the original.
>They're not in a relationship the teacher says that he'll wait, not that this makes it better but that's why it was so easy to missliterally just making excuses for pedophilia just because its glorious nihongo
>If you want to complain use better, more obvious example like Sakura's parents. You seem like you have no clue wtf you're talking about and just vaguely checked a few TVTropes page before posting.i actually watch and read manga, unlike you, that's why i know how prominent the pedo problem is in Japan, even in innocous manga for children like sakura cardcaptor. lets not forget that usagi is 14yo and her love interest in 21yo in the anime too, and that in shugo chara the main character is an elementary school student and her love interest is almost 18.
No. 1880410
>>1880409>lets not forget that usagi is 14yo and her love interest in 21yo in the anime tooTo be fair that's an anime exclusive change, he's 16 in the manga.
Not that either of them really look like the ages they're meant to be.
No. 1880413
>>1880409If you don't like the Sailor Moon anime then read the manga. This is exactly what I mean by "you can pick and choose what to watch and read and what to avoid" but you don't seem to care. About CCS the teacher and Sakura's classmate don't have anything going on in the first anime, I wasn't making comparisons with the sequel (not even a reboot no idea where you got that from) because I read the first volume, gor bored and then got pissed off because we have a CCS sequel but still no X ending.
>i actually watch and read manga, unlike youlol. lmao.
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>>1880416
my bad, i refuse to watch it because it looks ugly. I hate the SAO-fication of anime.
No. 1880428
>>1880424i never said that, all of this sperging started because weebs got offended they got called out and started sperging and now are currently defending pedophilia. Dont throw stones from glass houses. You are going to keep coping and calling me a furfag while proving my point by defending pedophilia just because its made by nihongo instead of hollywood.
>>1880426Again moving the goal post. Both are degenerate. Weebs are no different from furfags and pretending otherwise after spending an entire thread defending pedophilia just because it's made by japan just proves my point lol.
No. 1880436
>>1880428you say both are degenerate and then immediately defend furfags for "at least" drawing an adult bunny as if that's somehow less degenerate kek. your word choice gives away your bias no matter how much you try to feign impartiality
>>1880425>shits on weebs>immediately praises HollywoodYou're not slick
No. 1880485
>>1880467Tbf, I'm sorry but he did look a bit fruity.
I don't think you're a pedo tho.
No. 1880491
>>1880484how did i backtrack? my point still stands that a weeb calling out a furfag for degeneracy is an hypocrite. Bunny with tits isnt less degenerate than 16yo anime girl with big tits in a bunnysuit, both are degenerate. If you are an anime watcher you have to make a shit ton of excuses to justify the rampant pedophilia in anime like anons have been doing, so going 'nooooo weebs can do no wrong!' is just coping.
>>1880485i am not an anon kek
No. 1880501
>>1880493maybe you, i have my reasons to hate furfags besides ''lol he jacks off to bunny with tits instead of woman with bunny tits so weird ecksdee anyways time to schlick to my 15yo catbois''. I find a weeb pretending she's better than a furfag miles more milky, at least the furfag understand it's a pariah and they tend to seclude themselves to their own pages, but weebs are becoming incresingly more annoying because they dont understand they are filthy pariahs too.
>>1880495your kind reminds me of Xirian. The type of weeb that acts hollier than thou and will cancel everyone they disagree with then act super jolly and happy when they receive a letter from the director of the pedo anime they ripped off telling her her shitty book is ok.
No. 1880505
>>1880504ofcourse, that's why i am in lolcow dot farms and not in xitter with they/them pronouns in bio and calling everything
problematic while having an anime pfp
No. 1880517
>>1880513So you are a hypocrite and happily so for making fun of furries, then?
Why try to deny that with "maybe you are a hypocrite but I have better reasons"?
No. 1880540
>>1880534Tbf, thats the sort of site it'd effect, no?
>>1880535Just curious, are you that enstars nonna?
No. 1880543
>>1878800IIRC at one point you run into a character from an obviously gypsy-inspired group and Astarion calls his people filthy thieves or something, and they’re after him because he fed their children to his vampire master.
>>1879553I wish my hobby communities were like this. Here they’ll cancel you for admitting to playing HL. One YouTuber is considered
problematic because she mentioned participating in a HP quiz at some convention and… that’s it. Apparently, her being a HP fan makes her videos “unsafe” for trans people to watch.
No. 1880552
>>1880548but you just admitted to it
>>1880533 lol if i am a pedo whatever you are too for supporting this industry. Your non-pedo anime(doubt so) was animated by people who later on went on to animate weird lolishit for moids. Even if you watch some turbo normie anime like cowboy bebop you are still supporting the same studio that made di gi charat and no game no life, both pedoshit.
No. 1880667
>>1880595kek even today it still throws me off when my friends remind me that a ton of people at their work watch anime and play videogames.
I believe Attack on Titan was the big turning point, everyone was watching that in 2013, it practically took the world by storm, probably because the premise followed the popular trends of the time.
No. 1880685
>>1880667I think the stigmas towards stuff like anime/videogames also depend on where as well as when you grew up. Everyone in my area had at least one of the gaming consoles at some point, and because they were cheap a lot of anime for kids aired in the mornings before school or on weekends on free to air tv and Japanese is a common LOTE subject so a lot of people also encountered things like ghibli through primary school. Full-on, classic otaku-style weebs and gamer stereotypes still exist of course, but both interests/hobbies weren't really seen as super niche or weird to people in my age group. Even then though, was still kind of wild to have my esl boss excitedly start asking if I was watching Chainsawman kek
Attack on Titan's first season was definitely a perfect storm to help open the floodgates to previous non-anime watchers though when it first aired, and I think it being a fairly sexless (especially compared to stereotypes of anime), gritty action series really helped with that, as well as tapping into trends like you said.
No. 1880731
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>>1880712Robin Williams was actually a big evangelion fan too
No. 1880749
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>>1880731Do you think he was like 'wow shinji is so me'
No. 1880778
>>1880731>>1880712There's still a difference, a generation and a half watched dubbed anime that was often localized and went out of it's way to western/american sensibilities(see vidrel). The football team of my school had Broly as their unofficial mascot and would play his theme, not his Japanese one, but the soundtrack of the US dubbed movie, which was some metal song. In one of the celebricow thread, people were surprised that Megan was a Nruto fan, but again, it's not surprising because plenty of black kids grew up watching dubbed anime. From my experience, they love any sort of mainstream shonen, and that's the point. While mainstream shonen is okay/cool to like, what makes someone a weeb is only watching anime, being sub-only, and being into far more more stereotypical weeb stuff.
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>>1880778Kek that's not what a "weeb' is. Weeb was originally used for people who would speak broken Japanese, claimed to be Japanese, and worshipped muh glorious Nippon. It then turned into anime fans using it casually as a way to refer to themselves. This was before the pandemic hit though so idk if it's changed again. I don't even think speaking broken japanese or claiming to be japanese is even that common anymore since people are so quick to scream racism. There's definitely still autists, but anyone who watches anime subbed does not make them a weeb alone. I think "Otaku" is completely dead in the US thankfully but I do still see MX weebs use it.
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>>1880887>I don’t mind furries if they’re just autistic women who liked sparkledogs and neopets as kids and continued to like cartoon animals as adultsThose aren't furries though, there's a huge difference between a vivizepop design and actual furry shit.
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>>1880896No, I think you're still a furry if you do nothing but draw and like anthros and sparkledogs. There's obviously levels of furry between someone drawing their genide sparkle dogs and someone drawing their big, buff pot-belly brap dragons though.
No. 1880946
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>>1880912I don't get the appeal of OP. I don't understand how anyone likes it, including shonen-fags, fujos and allegedly queer people. The characters are objectively ugly. When I was a kid I thought zoro and sanji were cute, but after the time-skip, they're ugly as well. The fight scenes are like something out of Tom and Jerry, and the characters act like massive autistic children.
No. 1880954
>>1880946Dont really get it either. People like pirates, I guess.
Ngl if there was a series of handsomu pirates being handsomu, I'd read it.
No. 1880969
>>1880896Within the furry community, basically anyone who draws anthro animals is considered a furry, regardless of self-indentification. If you draw animal characters, furries will interact with you.
Vivzie’s stuff is pretty popular among furries too fwiw, they see it as furry too.
No. 1880976
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>>1880969I'm not a biggest fan of vivzie but she doesn't deserve this, there was a sci-fi author who wrote a book about racoons being the dominant species on the planet, It was originally intended to be a trilogy series. However, furries became obsessed about it, to the point where they would send erotic letters and create sexual fan-art, which they would then send to the author. the author ultimately refused to finish or publish the sequels out of spite. he hated furriers and wanted nothing to do with them.
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This is the sort of instance where an immovable object meets an unstoppable force, that is swifities going up against Palestinian activism. Taylor's Eras Tour will be released to Disney+ and Disney is bad because of zionism. So now swifties are "coping" and trying to justify it. Actually, "Taylor is the poor victim in this scenario. she's being manipulated and used by a billion-dollar company." It's honestly kind of fascinating to witness
No. 1881342
>>1881315>Yumes who hate fujosMeh, don't care
>yumes who throw bishies under the bus for moidshitEveryone has different tastes, nobody's forced to like the same stuff
>the moralfagsI'll give you this one, that's actually annoying
>>1881332Unless you're a turbo normie, you ain't got no moral to criticize other weebs acting autistic. All weebs are inherently delusional
No. 1881345
>>1881315>>1881332Basically this, you have to have some amount of mental illness to imagine yourself dating a cartoon character so antisocial and maladaptive behavior isn't that surprising. It's one thing to find a character attractive and like and appreciate them but actually imagining a relationship between you to the point it affects your real life and you call it "love" is not healthy.
As for western communities, if you think they're bad, you should see the Asian yumes. Japanese yumes mostly cry into a pillow sniffing their husbando's overpriced perfume merch and lick their plushies but Chinese yumes will actually murder you if you come between them and their husbando. They will send death threats to creators if their husbando of choice is threatened by another character, male or female.
No. 1881415
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Newest twitter brainrot I keep seeing: Aventurine isn't white
(it's a character with white skin and blonde hair)
I guess I'm not white either because I'm slavic!
No. 1881417
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>>1881415What the character looks like, for reference. They say he's a gypsy.
No. 1881420
>>1881416I haven't participated in this conversation, but I was friends with a jp yume. She kept complaining to me about the strict etiquette in their circles and how tired she was. People were constantly competing for merch and self-insert comissions and if you didn't tweet once a day about your boy people would consider you not devoted enough/you got bored of him. You were expected to talk about him like a real life partner and compliment others constantly too.
But that's the hardcore yumes, casual fans are common in Japan too, but this is the reason why everyone is so desperate to prove themselves with elaborate shrines and pictures of figures and plushies.
No. 1881423
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>>1881417>>1881415It's funny because the chinese word would be considered a slur in the west.
No. 1881434
>>1881415>>1881417It's because Aventurine used to be a slave(?) from an underprivileged planet and his "race" (sigonians) is considered to be dirty thieves and other negative stereotypes that have been applied to gypsies but also many, many other ethnicities both white and non-white. The black and white race wars brainrot these people have is unbelievable, the planet we meet him on is a literal melting pot with no real locals and it exists in an universe filled with planets populated with their own people and NO "default race" so I have no fucking idea how these people. can't shut the fuck up for one second and stop poisoning games with their ridiculous ~headcanons~.
Also I hate people who obviously fake being Chinese but they never post anything in Mandarin or Cantonese, their game screenshots are all in English meaning that's the language they play with, they have no idea about the culture, are suspiciously well versed in North American identity politics and their Chinese knowledge comes from misunderstanding dictionary definitions. That "Location: People's republic of China" is a lie and you know it.
No. 1881444
>>1881434samefag to correct myself because I'm a retard, Aventurine's race isn't called "Sigonia", it's the planet he's from. His race is called "avgin" and it's vaguely inspired by Romani words. In the game one of the characters (Sparkle) straight out laid some slurs and racist takes on him about his background and people are going insane about how pwobwematic it is. What the fuck are these people doing playing this game anyway, can't they go back to cookie run? How will they whiteknight the painfully sexist designs of female characters until the day they die but get so bent out of shape over fictional racism? I mean I guess it's hilarious that we went so far that a white skin blonde character is now considered a "
POC" and the obviously Asian girl gets cancelled for calling him a conniving thief but it's also retarded beyond belief.
No. 1881449
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>>1881444It's extra stupid because Avgin means honey (supposedly). So he just says
>I am a [Honey]And the whole point about the roma is that they're nomads lol
I can see how it might be a clumsy reference, but mihoyo fans are insane.
No. 1881459
>>1881457The girl "Sparkle" tells the boy something like:
>How did you get the boss to accept your offer? Did you take your clothes off and beg and kneel in front of him?Twitter is full of people saying she called him a fag and a whore. But it could be refering to the act of dogeza humiliation lol
No. 1881505
>>1881492I thought this whole thread jumped on that when someone posted a Senshi vs Gojo poll where Senshi was winning.
>>1881501I get the "old man" fuckers because they're mostly fantasizing about somebody like Dracula from castlevania who is hot and mature looking,but the "dad bod" girls make me cringe.
Also knew several online girls who were into self-insert protagonists which is peak pick-me in my opinion because they want the average dude.
No. 1881544
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>>1881415>>1881423>>1881449Seeing Romani/Gypsy racial "HCs" is fascinating to see as someone from the Middle East where the gypsies still exist, gypsies are so mixed, with so many people's across the Middle East and Europe, that it really is impossible to box them into a single racial/ethnic group, their identity is more of a cultural and linguistic one. you can find gypsy full blood siblings who have different skin tones, with some being brownish and others as white as paper. It is their cultural heritage that truly defines them.
So In fiction, characters were gypsies to add depth to a character's backstory, However now there is a notion of having either genuine Roma actors (who are quite rare) or Indian actors(which ironically highlights the lack of awareness surrounding the Roma and Indian history)
No. 1881550
>>1881324Can confirm over here it's mostly known by fantasy book nerds.
>>1881544Eh, maybe it's different from region to region but they're also in the balkans and stick closely among themselves refusing to mix. Here you have a portrayal with Roma actors from the balkans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZf00ad3G6o No. 1881606
>>1881598dunno about Percy Jackson's lore specifically, but it's not uncommon for stories that start out saying 'only x religion got it right and its god/s exist' to eventually cop out and say all deities and their associated faiths are
valid, creating a theological kitchen sink that doesn't make much sense and breaks previously established lore/rules. That, or gods will go by many names across different cultures so, for example, in a mainly Norse-themed setting you'll have one trickster god that's gone by Loki/Coyote/Anansi/etc (I've seen this specific one a few times kek), but functionally in the story they'll just be Norse Loki. It's an odd way of not stepping on anyone's toes, I guess
No. 1881610
>>1880385It's idiotic, because yeah, I read one of the spin offs in which a character is son of the Nordic gods. It was easy to read but it wasn't anything important, very American with references to shit I didn't give a fuck about like baseball teams and cities, if you told me that that moid is from literally any country and that he's an ameriboo, I would believe you.
He didn't create anything, he just wrote fanfic.
Meanwhile JK Rowling made a whole ass system with rules, created objects, concepts, places and so much more, does anyone have any idea of how difficult is that?
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>>1881500>>1881415>>1881544Well, "white" as a concept was meant to describe Anglo-Saxons and place them above others. Italians, Irish people, Slavs, Germans, etc were all blocked out of the definition. It's a little bit more arbitrary than one might think. Those twitter people are actually being pretty "trad", as per the logic of the founding fathers of the USA.
This is also why some Mestizo people (like "musician" 6ix9ine) are counted as white in official documentation today, even if others might disagree with it.
I will avoid naming any groups, but you might also see some communities try to push to be considered "white", and some others simply calling themselves "white" or "
POC" based on whichever is convenient and/or gleams more social strength at the time.
No. 1881683
>>1881672Oh so it's only cool if you guys shit on us? If you mad at me for posting my opinions on a
fandom discourse thread, I invite you to take your ass back to your thread at /m/ too
No. 1881703
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I hate everyone involved in this.
No. 1881705
>>1881699nta but
>Stan twitter drag queen memeyour not helping your case faghag
No. 1881707
>>1881699Nta but because
>>1881315 is the one who started it
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so people mad that the only A03 equivalent, doesn't allow any depictions of characters under Squidgeworld
No. 1881718
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>all this yume slander when I'm a yumefujo and half these complaints apply to non-yumes as well
No. 1881742
>>1880946It used to have really fun action and character designs early on and was an exciting, massive sprawling adventure. Everything through Water Seven is great.
I have no idea why anyone likes OP after Impel Down. There are way too many plot threads that cause each arc to take forever and the art has degraded in every aspect. The character design has become pure fucking nonsense, the panels have become insanely cramped so each of the 10,000 characters introduced each arc can get a word in edgewise, and the thick, clear line work has become a thin, jittery mess that makes everyone look like they were scribbled on a napkin.
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interesting thread i saw today 1/2
No. 1881763
>>1881721There's probably people even on this site that can think yume are fucking delusional and fujos are coomers.
It's not a "with me or against me" sort of topic.
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why is the western fandom so retarded? what does this even MEAN it's a fucking elf
No. 1881775
i swear yume fujo discourse doesn't exist outside of lolcow. if i do see it, it's usually men arguing about yumes being prettier than "stinky fujos"
>>1881492>how she's so oppressed for liking bishies do you mean the trapschizo kek
No. 1881786
>>1881759>>1881761I think it wouldn't be an issue if people knew how and why they're even using social media in the first place. Normies ruined it because they contribute nothing to social media. They're just there, posting nonsense about no topic in particular, believing anything they read instead of checking reliable sources, etc. Then even some people who aren't normies became like this. I use twitter because I want to post about a few specific topics for fun: traveling and video games mostly. I also follow artists and people who like the same video games and manga I like. I don't participate in "fandoms" and I don' diverge too much from that to keep myself sane and not have weird news or political bullshit on my TL that would make me angry or depressed, which would make me then more susceptible to taking the bait all the time and I wish more users were like me. Ideally if things were like before FB took over in 2007 people would just post about specific topics, reply to well meaning comments, check other people's pages or blogs, mute or block or ignore trolls instead of feeding them, and move on with their lives.
Instead you have losers who only do what this twinkdefcon guy is explaining, who feed trolls so often you'd think it's their fulltime job, who make themselves miserable over it, and who have several social media accounts instead of one for NO REASON because they have nothing to do or say there besides reposting unfunny memes, stealing content and posting their selfies. Why do these losers use 5 social media websites at the same time with two accounts in some of them? Some of them aren't going to Bluesky completely now that you don't need an invite anymore, they're just adding one account while continuing to use Twitter and bitching about Muskrat for the 10000th time. I think maybe this retarded billionaire had the right idea when he tried to limit the number of tweets you could see everyday but he also caused big blue checkmark accounts and porn bots to ruin the website even more to begin with.
This is barely coherent sorry… No. 1881794
>>1881759>>1881761Tactics in marketing and advertising has been studied for decades, social media is the culmination of a post-capitalist society. Social media sites are owned by megacorps who profit from people being unhappy with their lives - anger creates a lot more interaction and thus data to be sold, and sadness and insecurity makes you buy more product. You make an account to see what's up with the recent drama and boom, now you're making money for the company managing the site. Just like skincare advertisements showing only beautiful, skinny people with perfect skin, the algorithm is designed to make you feel bad about yourself so you'll stay on the site longer to seek validation. Even the notification feature is meant to get you addicted, it
triggers your dopamine receptors to see that little interaction badge pop up. This is why sites like twitter and facebook have no real incentive to limit the hate speech and polarization on their site unless they're required to do so by law and even then they drag their feet implementing lazy features to fulfill the bare minimum. They need that interaction and data to be sold because people wouldn't pay $20 for a social media sub to compensate for the services. They need you to stay miserable and angry.
No. 1881822
>>1881801Tbf, it's has an ongoing anime so I can see people not wanting to spoil stuff that would be a bit difficult to explain.
Though, I am disappointed that people keep headcanonning lesbians when there's already one in canon that's just fine.
No. 1881857
>>1881811It's a good anime and a good story but the thing is genuinely not fandomifiable, just like Chainsaw Man imo. CSM only got big because of the waifus and the general aesthetic that appeals to zoomers. The characters in both are there to make the story move and nothing else. It's only interesting when the characters are doing something, otherwise the setting is quite boring and if I didn't like the artstyle I would've dropped it immediately.
>>1881822>headcanonning lesbiansWhy are you disappointed about that? It's a popular manga that doesn't overly sexualize the female characters which have distinct personalities and relevance to the plot so it only makes sense that readers find them intriguing enought to ship. What's interesting is that I haven't seen much yaoi of it though, just some Kabru/Mithrun and attempts at Kabru/Laios. But that's another point on why it's never going to have a big fandom presence kek
No. 1881858
>>1881721They act like massive
victims every time its hilarious
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Is she ever not mad at white people?
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>>1881860>PookieWasn't this a club penguin thing?
No. 1881872
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>>1881869'Yumes are pure' posting just makes me think of this.
No. 1881874
>>1881857I just like Otta tbh. I guess it makes sense why she's not as popular but I think she's cute.
I should probably keep my personal likes in check though, yeah.
No. 1881879
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>>1881878Eh, I'd say it's pretty equal.
No. 1881909
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>>1881869Based
>>1881872"Yumes are pure and mentally sane unlike fujos" always reminds me of this gem.
No. 1881927
>>1881909>"but escalation usually comes from porn consumption, doesn't it? And i don't look at pornography so it will probably be fine.KEK I love it, thank you for sharing, anon.
>>1881901It'd be hilarious and sad if this post was made by Paki-chan too.
>>1881916It's true that it's not Bl, but current western politics. BL was popular before too, but people just didn't troon out back then. Bl is definitely not the reason.
>>1881921She must mean fujo thread and fujochan.
No. 1881937
>>1879515Sage for non-contribution but the people I see buying the most HP merch nowadays are zoomers. A lot of the ones I know watched the movies or read the books growing up and don't know/care about the terminally online discourse.
On a side note idk why people on this website think Tiktok represents the majority of what zoomers act like. While a lot do use Tiktok most think that the stuff that goes on on it is cringe or annoying.
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I've said it before, but one day the fandomization of this war will be studied, thee people are tearing themselves apart the most worthless fandom brain-rot.
No. 1881992
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>>1881984>has a history of it being appropriated by the westI didn't realize you could appropriate literal fruits.
No. 1882005
>>1881984My brain is melting through to understand this
>>1881992They're so weird about literal watermelons. kekk
No. 1882013
>>1881984>isr43lI genuinely can't keep up with internet censorship anymore. It's purely random what words you're allowed to say and what words you aren't. Why can you get shadowbanned
and I still have no idea what that even means for saying Israel but not Palestine or Russia? Im just gonna stick to lc for the rest of my life so I don't have to deal with randomass censorship
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>>1882035>he made all the female characters NLOGsDoesn't that mean that they're all like the other girls after all then?
No. 1882049
>>1882035They suffer from taking themselves and their children's book too seriously, and to be fair that is true for HP fans as well or at least it was before JKR turned out to be an evil
terf. I guess it's understandable if you're 12, but there's a point in which if you want to be a pedantic asshole over books you should at least read something not designed as entertainment for literal kids.
No. 1882311
>>1882307i think people who bitch at other people's preferences like she does should get banned. it seems to me most in-fights on this site go like this.
>someone posts something they enjoy>someone else replies to it in a pointlessly abrasive way>first anon replies back and it just spirals out of control but you see how this could avoided if the instigator just ignored the thing to start with
No. 1882333
>>1882035I love the wild Americanized historical fiction
>Adolf Hitler (yes really) was the son of Hades and the Nazi atrocities were just magic fuckery>Nico DiAngelo (a character TIFs love to skinwalk) is a son of Hades. He was born around ww2 (ignore the implication that Hades was laying pipe in the Axis Powers)>WW2 was a war between the children of Zeus (FDR, haha get it because eagle and Murica), Poseidon (Churchill, haha get it because England is known for it's navy) and Hades (Hitler, haha cause death)>in one of the spinoffs, one of them is ranting about how Camp Jupiter (the Roman camp in California) always loses wars and mentions that they fought in the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy >like >>1882035 said all the female characters are NLOGs. They're totally tomboyish but not in a gross butch way (there is a character Clarissa iirc who is described as being a rude masculine bully and it's obviously demonizing her for this)Not to mention Riordan's weird vendetta against brown eyes, especially girls with brown eyes. Literally every female character with brown eyes is described as a raging bitch or ugly
>Clarissa>ugly and a bully>Drew (she's Japanese)>bitch>Annabeth's evil stepmom (Asian)>bitch>Reyna>bitch>moid characters with brown eyes are ugly losersHazel is black and Piper is Native American but Hazel has gold eyes because Pluto/Hades is also the god of wealth (none of the other Hades kids have this trait) and Piper has "kaleidoscope eyes" that change colors.
No. 1882566
>>1881984So, this goes into a subject I've talked about before, that user might be Palestinian, I'm not denying that, but culturally, she's something else. Her level of English makes it obvious she lives in the West or is from the upper-middle class, another proof is the issue she cares about, she might have some connection to her culture, but not truly. She's in a liberal bubble, and this issue plagues academia. I was just talking with a friend of mine about this with regards to academic Afsaneh Najmabadi, she is a wildly cited academic on Iran, She is a "gender theorist" who lives in Western academia bubble, but presents herself as an expert on Iran's history. According to her, since men in Iran used to wear makeup and women wore fake mustaches, that means Iran was progressive society that blurred gender roles and that 100 years ago concept of Heterosexuality didn't exist and this might obvious bullshit but her writings are the narrative being taught to these westerners who all from upper-classes, it's a denial and manipulation of reality. I don't think these people are even aware of it, they are just that moronic.
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>>1881984An interesting thing I'm seeing is that these people are applying the type of online activism that was mostly used for Black/Asian Americans and gay people on a people that are so far-removed from those issues, like the rhetoric on the Arab/Muslim side of Twitter , "innocent Muslim women and children are being murdered" (and some anti-Semitism). And that's all that's needed to get 1 billion Muslims to condemn it. On the Western side, it's about how "queer/black Palestinians are suffering" or "X invention was actually made by a Palestinians somehow." Again This type of activism is again mostly used for American minorities and gay people. Seeing it applied to anyone outside those groups makes you realize how kind of dumb it was in the first place.
No. 1882685
>>1882307I have only the faintest memory of that and, while I'm guilty of screaming shit taste at people who like things I dislike, I thought it was very weird that they were calling anons pickmes for liking ugly characters. Like, no, no one is attempting to get picked by liking those blocky cartoony spies/mercenaries or whatever they were, that's a very irrational plan to get picked.
>>1882333>Poseidon (Churchill, haha get it because England is known for it's navy)>immediately think of that pic of Churchill at the beachYes, very demigod kek. There were so many things I just brushed off with "sure, whatever" when I read those books, things like that which shouldn't have been written down at all cause nothing would have been lost. But I did think it'd have been really cool to have been one of Artemis' hunters.
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>>1882672this is an interesting thing to observe. internet discourse has become so convoluted and like an entirely separate beast from how people actually think about and discuss things. there's also this tone of condescension, rather than meeting people at equal footing. i think that might just be the effect of having a 'platform' and thinking yourself important.
No. 1882708
>>1881984Kek I'm so tired of these fuckers spamming about palestine and tweeting "from the river to the sea" over a shitty cartoon doodle with a watermelon.
>our men are ppl too and they also need to be talked abt etc.Once this war is over most of these people will go back to ignoring the suffering muslim women and children go through at the hands of their own community, expecially men. It's funny seeing them suddenly care about the suffering of muslims if it's caused by a state they perceive as slightly "whiter" but will turn a blind eye when the same comes from muslim men, because then it's only "culture" and "religion". Also the poor muslim men were caught several times on camera spitting on the corpses of innocent young women, but no one gives a shit about that. Oh and your poor muslim men have been honor killing women for fucking centuries and yeah, they would gladly genocide their non-muslim neighbours if they could easily get away with it (though they are known to regularly assault and kill religious minorities in their countries). I'm so tired of seeing these types of posts literally everywhere coming from sheltered kids with an anime pfp and trans flags in the bio.
No. 1882749
>>1882013Same. Online censoring is absolutely bonkers. The fact that so many youtubers arent saying the words 'kill' or 'suicide' because it gets censored by the platform. Like wtf is that? If i hear the word
unalive again one more time, I will punch someone in the face
No. 1882767
>>1882755I see it online all over the place
>As an Irish… No shut up. You're from Boston you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't pretend to speak for us to justify your thinly veiled racism because you drink green beer on Paddy's Day. Or act like we're all mad religious. The Church was responsible for septic tanks full of dead babies taken from single mothers.
I was in the states a while ago and a lad in a bar actually said to me "up the 'ra". I just stared at him. I grew up during the Troubles. You don't glorify any of that.
Also it's always claiming Irish, Polish or some other country that had a hard time. No one says they have English heritage.
No. 1882786
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>>1882333>>1882685The thing about "accurate Greek mythology" you see from memes like this is that Greek religion was far more tribal and arcane than people realize. They didn't think of Gods as characters with an established canon or anything, but myths were often meant as allegories for the natural world. The gods simply represented those attributes. Greek mythology itself was a confusing mixture of Indo-European and Semitic myths that were jumbled up together
The story of Hades and Persephone is good example. There is evidence to suggest that Persephone existed before Hades, and that the male custodian/ruler of the underworld was initially a deity named Zagreus.(the current theory is that Persephone was the queen of Hell and Zagreus was her son, but somewhere along the line his aspects were changed and he became Hades) but even Hades was established, different regional variations of the story depict Hades kidnapping Persephone or it being a more romantic gesture. Both versions can be considered equally
valid. The important point is that Persephone has a story where she goes to the underworld and becomes the queen of the underworld. This story emerged naturally, it wasn't created by anyone either.
No. 1882850
>>1882333>>Adolf Hitler (yes really) was the son of Hades and the Nazi atrocities were just magic fuckerySo this shit is ok but Voldemort just being a vague parallel to several real life violent dictators because of his violent behavior and bigotry is
problematic? Well then. I'm glad I never read these Percy Jackson books not even because they're too American for my taste based on your post but because of the way it's so American. I found the HP world immersive because even if the story mostly takes place in the UK it didn't feel like the UK was the center of the universe and the fourth book introduced other European schools, the supernatural things mentioned are either legends that were told irl for centuries or more or things JKR completely made up based on actual legends, reading about how an actual historical guy from just a few centuries ago killed actual, real people because the author misinterpreted an ancient Greek god and myth that don't exist at all completely ruins immersion imo. I'm not even going to talk about how disrespectful this is because it's too obvious. That kind of shit only really works with conspiracy theories, like how Persona 2 has Hitler trying to start shit with everyone because rumors become true if enough people spread and believe them and the story happens in the late 90s when the conspiracy that Hitler faked his suicide and was hiding somewhere was popular.
No. 1882854
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>defestishizes yuri
>written by a actual "lesbian" its a troon
>HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I'm so tired now nonnas actual lesbians are bullied into drawing troon dick whilst troonbians are so valid!!! …how did we end up this way…
No. 1882867
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>>1882845>Where are these versions?This specific version can be traced back to the book 'Lost Goddesses of Early Greece' by ecofeminist and philosopher Charlene Spretnak. This book was dismissed by actual historians, however it gained popularity within academia, and its version is now the most popular telling. Phyllis Chesler talks about this in her book. During the second-wave feminist there was an obsession with ancient Greece (due to the Amazons) and a general attitude that since Christianity was the worst thing in the world and the source of all patriarchy, anything before it was obviously better
No. 1882894
>>1882850AYPT I forgot to mention something
>it didn't feel like the UK was the center of the universe>but because of the way it's so AmericanIn the Percy Jackson books, the Greek gods "follow the heart of Western civilization" and that's why they left Greece (yes fucking really) and followed settlers to America. With the odd gendie pandering, one dimensional
poc characters that feel like tokens and shit like above, Riordan doesn't seem like an older out of touch boomer liberal but a liberal in the streets, a conservative in the sheets.
No. 1882907
>>1882892The logic of that period was that "all recorded myths were written down by patriarchal Christians who went out of their way to manipulate the narrative. So, why wouldn't we should instead, find or create our feminist versions equally
valid?" It wasn't just feminist btw. It involved a lot of leftist historiography, initiated by Foucault and his movement
No. 1883120
>>1882708I saw a news that is quite common for Palestine gay people ask for asylum in Israel because is the one place in the MEA region that do accept their gay status (of course they cannot get married in Israel, but is that or being hanged in Palestine).
Funny how the one country they're defending so much have no problems in beat women and gay people, but the one they're against do help them.
No. 1883252
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This is so hilarious to me since it's for a ship that's shipped pretty much exclusively by women and the 'pedo character' is 17.
No. 1883267
>>1883252Ugh I bet she still call it pedophilia until the minor character is 25 years old because "adult brain blah blah blah" and even then, age difference pairings between two consenting adults are wrong because… pedophilia?
These people cannot be happy until people do what they want to see.
No. 1883330
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Both posters are male troons. I’m not even a fujo but it’s fucking annoying seeing men burst in on women’s fandom and act like it’s their domain all of a sudden.
No. 1883359
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>>1883330Real pic of them chatting.
No. 1883415
>>1883409we need a new wave of misandrist
terf fujos
No. 1883451
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>>1883393Most weeb moids just fall into the category of 'I want to hatefuck a fujo' with the only ones who really hate fujos being gay guys who already hate women like James Somerton.
No. 1883462
>>1883330What is this even saying? If a man was into a 99.9% female fandom, he would automatically be superior than all the rest of the icky women by being a man? Or is it that he could've had ghey yaoi sex with other men? Men will put on eyeliner and start cooming to yuri and femboys, and then think they could ever truly understand the brain of a true sperg woman. Pathetic.
>>1883405I think open fujoism is more normal among TIFs again, but only the "ironic" kind that are obsessed with calling everything "old man yaoi" and drawing shitty gendie art. It also plays into the 2000s and early 2010s internet culture they are obsessed with recreating.
>>1883415We can do it, fujosisters…
No. 1883464
>>1883462>he would automatically be superior than all the rest of the icky women by being a man? I think it's him trying to be relatable because guys into BL generally get attention, but it just comes off as him thinking men are superior while he larps as a woman.
>but only the "ironic" kind that are obsessed with calling everything "old man yaoi" and drawing shitty gendie art.If you point out that they went from 'YAOI IS DISGUSTING FETISHIZATION' to 'teehee yaoi cocaine XD' within about a week they'll get real pissed though.
No. 1883474
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>>1883462>>1883451>>1883330I think you all are misunderstanding what's going on, the types of TIMs who are into yaoi are usually a sub-set of AGP TIMs you'll see a lot in fandom spaces, they are into yaoi due to the usual porn-induced pseduo-bisexuality however yaoi also confirms their desires about being "ultimate effortlessly feminine bottoms" another factor is that these TIMs do genuinely despise straight ships,
another nonna in the MTF thread described it best
>Weeb tansbians hate het ships with their waifu featuring an attractive husbando because they subconsciously see him as competition for said waifu—as well as the male character being a constant reminder of having traits that they don't have that women irl like. No. 1883736
>>1883330jessicobra has no yaoi in his likes or his rts, and is in a prison gay relationship with another male. his selfies are scary. the other one, neobonegirl, does not have any yaoi in his likes or rts either. he does, however, rt a lot of heterosexual porn and anime girl obesity fetish art. neither of them even consoom trapshit, but they both like to larp as a fujoshi once a blue moon it seems, until they decide to go back to turning another "type" of woman into a fetish.
speaking of fetishes, does anyone hate what moids have done to elves of late? all the shitty fantasy animes where female elves are nothing but retards with big tits and ridiculously long ears, if you try to find anything on social media about them, their porn clogs the tags.
No. 1883895
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>>1883886Hyper patriarchal societies often have normalized pederasty. While all cultures have patriarchal elements, those that treat women as subhuman are more likely to have a culture of young boys being raped by name nobles due to the deep-seated hatred for women, meanwhile modern queers interpret it like picrel.
No. 1883899
>>1883330I'm tired of these LARPers. Yaoi is one of the few spaces where TIMs rarely tread upon but because of this whole "I'm a fujoshi XD"
trend they all want to pretend they've always liked BL now. The only troons capable of being genuine fujoshi are TIFs because being a fujo is female behaviour. I used to have one TIM "fujoshi" mutual (not larping, he's a homo genuinely into BL) and the way he interacted with yaoi content was completely differently than how women do. No cheesy headcanons or overly poetic character analysis, wasn't even a coomer in a fujo way i.e. reading ABO fanfic, was barely into shipping, he basically just read shotacon manga and self-inserted. These moids need to go back to the shithole they came from.
No. 1883913
>>1883893>Baalbuddy comicsAren't those parodies of fantasy and hentai tropes though? The women are into the orcs and stuff because it's a play on the whole orcs/goblins exist to rape women, so the joke is that the women are actually into that idea but the orcs are just normal dudes and get creeped out or an orc and a lady get together consensually. Admittedly I've only seen a random few of the comics, but they're pretty straightforward and aren't serious so I don't think they work as an example for your theory.
Personally I don't think men are self-inserting as uggos or monsters (unless we're talking about the type that enjoy certain hentai), mostly since self-insertion isn't about what is possible for you in reality. A lot of people just like beastly character designs and they make for an easy, visual relationship dynamic that people find endearing and charming (or hot because big, idealised fantasy barbarian make the snu snu with a female self-insert). Idk, it's not that deep, I guess.
A lot of the hardcore 'you will love fat uggos and discard your twinks and be happy' types are tifs, and I think they're just coping hard and trying to redefine their own unfortunate appearance as being attractive- it's kind of similar to how some fat women desperately try to push their body type as being the ideal. That, and the ones that are plain feeder/gainer fetishists kek
No. 1883928
>>1883913He is clearly a porn-addict and If you find his humour funny, then you need to revaluate yourself.
>because big, idealised fantasy barbarian make the snu snu with a female self-insertexcept it's never hot barbarians, it's ugly pig-faces monster's like picrel, are you denying that men aren't getting uglier and more porn-addicted?
No. 1883947
>>1883928kek I never even said that I liked or found the comics funny, just what they're doing. Calm down.
>never hot barbariansTo you, maybe, but I was referring to idealised fantasy barbarians, ie orcs, not idk Conan or bodice-ripper cover barbarians. Also I don't give a shit about crusty coomers and you shouldn't either kek
No. 1883977
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>>1883913>Personally I don't think men are self-inserting as uggos or monsters (unless we're talking about the type that enjoy certain hentai), mostly since self-insertion isn't about what is possible for you in reality. A lot of people just like beastly character designs and they make for an easy, visual relationship dynamic that people find endearing and charming (or hot because big, idealised fantasy barbarian make the snu snu with a female self-insert). Idk, it's not that deep, I guess.Baalbuddy and that particular genre of fantasy hentai is pretty clearly using orcs as just a fantasy-equivalent to the ugly old bastard trope. Monster fuckers are one thing, men who want to see women degraded by seeing them have sex with hideous men is another.
No. 1883991
>>1883990Personally I don't think it really matters one way or another, since they're not real and it's literally true that shotacon is a big aspect of fujo culture.
>>1883989KrisPNatz right? He claims to be bi but I don't believe him.
No. 1883998
>>1883993I'm a fujo myself, dummy.
>>1883994The difference in body type just looks aesthetically pleasing sometimes. Why else do you think Sebasciel was so huge?
(bait) No. 1884050
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>>1884030I swear opening this thread is liking walking into a time loop, always arguing over the same things we were last week. And true, enstarries are at least entertaining with their autistic shit flinging. Unfortunately all I have is vintage milk from several years ago when I was still acitve in the fandom but not sure that would summon them kek
No. 1884059
>>1884050Could post the sports festival feet card and having Puriteen vs. Enstars but I feel bad for enstars
nonnie. She just wants to be happy with her bishies. The world is cruel.
No. 1884157
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>>1884143these aren't gay men though, these are "pseudo-bisexuals", men who are so into coom that their fetishes start expanding to a point where really get off to a fantasized idea about m/m sex rather then the real thing.
No. 1884179
>>1884167pseudo-bisexuality isn't limited to straight-male AGPs though, it can and does appear with gay men and I think certain lesbian/straight women who consume any type of porn/erotica unrestrained also show sings of it.
What pseudo-bisexuals desire is a hotchpotch of male and female, that can be a futa or an omega.
No. 1884404
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>>1883893>>1883977I'm not denying they exist, but the only example of this I have personally seen is with a yume isakei story, which features a fat girl who dies and is reincarnated as an orc. She's depressed about it until a knight appears and desires to kill her. She blurts out that she doesn't want a virgin, so the knight, seeing she's a female, "ravishes" her and then takes her to his estate where the usual romance tropes happen, but it's essentially an ugly girl finds love with a strong handsome guy story, but using orcs as a metaphor.
No. 1884413
>>1884404sounds oddly charming kek
I've seen other monstrous woman x cute/handsome guy stuff before, but that niche is also gendie city so a lot of it can be pretty repellent due to their favoured visual cliches etc. Content by normal people is a lot more interesting and endearing- I have a soft-spot for the 'feeling monstrous and unlovable' trope in general (but especially from a female perspective and using fantasy or sci-fi to portray it) though, so I get that it's not something everyone else might like or want to see
No. 1884490
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I hate fanboys who complain about how female protagonists are "taking over" and how no one cares about male protagonists and everyone likes female protagonists. Like the most popular anime series don't all mostly have male protagonists.
No. 1884911
>>1884609This is how I feel about chainsaw man and its fans. Fandoms on Twitter should've never turned the word "
femcel" into a catch all for any girl who experiences more than two emotions in a shounen. The chainsaw man mangaka is a weird mood anyway for role-playing as a little girl on Twitter and including his weird loli incest in his "so deep" manga
No. 1884945
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>>1884698>>1884753I can't remember know who said it, but I remember a quote by a female fashion designer about how they (the gay men who run the fashion industry) want women to resemble malnourished boys and they want to keep the handsome men for themselves and leave women with the scraps.
No. 1885059
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>>1885033The overwhelming truth to this my god
No. 1885167
>>1885072I grew up in a mostly non-white area and I've never had a black or '
POC' in general care about white people using the same slang that everyone down here uses as long as they weren't calling them slurs to their face.
No. 1885271
>>1884621Posted on a subreddit and run into one. She's was fine with me drawing most cute men with one caveat: I have be "body positive" by drawing men outside my taste zone. I mean, my preferences in guys is pretty wide, but no way am I finding some fat, balding, old-school moid sexy. Drawing bishes can get boring but i'd rather draw ten billon noodle limbed pretty boys than yet another gross fat neckbeard (but it's woke now you knows so it's totes ok)
So to tell you the truth, they do exist, and I assumed the idea came from somewhere since fat positivity movement was founded by a male fat fetishist.
Ain't shocked lol. It's all inclusive positivity these days. Makes me miss the days where the most woke thing about a show was the ethnic diversity and that's it.
No. 1885547
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>>1885533>>1885537I thought the manga had a lot of cute scenes and touching moments, that sucks. If the author isn't just intersex, it would explain the rapist character that the mc relates to. Picrel 1/2
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>>1885547Instead of being horrified her reaction is "just like me fr"
No. 1885665
>>1885663The thing with big 3 is that these are huge gateway series that people latched onto in their youth and some people never move on. Like you can't extrapolate anything about a person from being a Naruto/Bleach/OP fan because there's just so many people from every walk of life into them. Unfortunately OP has fallen
victim to ironic pandemic weebs because it's the only Big 3 still being serialized today.
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>>1885580I don't see the appeal of shit like picrel, you have to be the most irony/coom poisoned fujo to actually buy this shit.
No. 1885710
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The discourse surrounding that coomer game 'Stellar Blade' made me realize how deeply insecure men truly are. They are all for ''freeze peach'' unless it's about hot men in videogames, then they must be censored, shunned and trooned out because men are sensitive whiny babies with baby carrot dicks. I used to be all for freedom of speech, but seeing how it's always in favour of men's coom and never in favour of women and hot men, now i want to see all their coomer games censored and shunned. Goon in hell, hypocrite faggots.
Also, apparently this 'stellear blade' game fired two 'feminists' for unknown reason. Which considering it's a korean company who only makes coom games it wouldnt surprise me if it's either just a marketing campaign to attract contrarians and korean incels or these ''feminists'' were actually sexually harassed and they had to fire them and make up a bullshit excuse to hide their tracks. It smells extremely fishy to me, because why would a feminist, a korean one at that, work in a company that only makes coomer games for moids? and if she's okay working with a company that makes games where they have little girls shaking their asses, why would they complain about the new coomer game? so fishy.
No. 1885717
>>1885710Based. Men when they say free speech they 9/10 times mean freedom to be society destroying degenerates without repercussion because they identify as god king. It's why they caused the tranny problem we're currently having.
>Why would feminists work on this gameThey probably just mean non-male serving women, not someone who is explicitly feminist.
No. 1885721
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>>1885717>They probably just mean non-male serving women, not someone who is explicitly feminist.Definetly. Men are so low IQ they see ''women fired for feminism'' and rejoice in happiness. If you work for a company that made this pedoshit you cant be a feminist, they must have either been harassed or dont even exist.
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>>1885710i will never forgive arcsys for turning testament from a hot male goth into a shitty waifu ass character, never. for stellar blade, i've even seen moids cheering on the fact the male characters are covered head-to-toe because it makes women upset they don't get fanservice, or makes the sexism of the game more apparent.
i've seen a lot of them posting pictures of the women they used as a reference to make the game, shes some model who posts a bunch of /obviously edited/ thirst pics and so they cry about how the game is actually realistic, how only insecure women don't like "beauty." i wish they would stop making it all a ~FemInsiM OwN !!1!~ and acting like this game is somehow revolutionary for giving them fanservice, when.. literally every game does. it really does show that they're all coombrained and insecure.
No. 1885816
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>>1885809the worst part is that moids dont even like tranny westernized testament because he isnt girly enough. I am so glad that ''wokenes'' took over the western game industry and are taking over the japanese game industry. If i cant have hot men, then men cant have their gratitous sex appeal either. Hope they cope and seethe. Even if I hate the new April o'neil I am so happy they keep making her uglier to moid's eyes, because men didnt care when casey jones went from hot hunk to generic self insert male. They wouldnt fight for me to get croptop wearing casey, so why should i fight for their coombait april? hope they keep ruining moid's waifus.
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>>1885816they just mod the game to make him more of a true waifu, but i remember all the annoying porn when he was first announced. even in his birthday posts and such, i see moids praising "femboy testament" which gets the pronoun users seething, lol. the chaser jokes will never end.
>>1885809if they make him male again, they'll probably roid him out like the rest of the male characters (like his concept art). a tragedy.
No. 1885834
>>1885710Korean gacha and gamer moids are the most extremist incels you can find that even the Chinese and Japanese moids are put off by it.remember when nonnas talked what happened to taeso and yommi two female artists who were harassed and threatened with rape,death and mutilation even though they didn't make the content that the moids seethed over? only because they dared to be female who dared to fight for their own rights.korean game companies treat their female artists like shit.
>inb4 racebait This video has stated some issues they've caused but god the nikke bit is laughable. Korean female artists are so talented it's a shame they live in a shithole
sorry for reposting but lolcow keeps bugging out for me No. 1886013
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>>1884404>>1885202I looked it up again and realized I misremembered some details. She's not really fat, just an unkempt NEET who lost her job due to a recession. When she reincarnates and learns of the handsome knight, her first intention is to literally rape him. When the knight arrives and defeats her, she blurts out that she doesn't want to die a virgin and that she wants him to "ravish" her, which he does and the usual romance tropes with these types of stories happen.
No. 1886038
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>>1886013The story is just fine, but I'd respect it a whole lot more if the MC reincarnated as something akin to picrel, it can be the most stereotypical daddy dom bs, but if it had an actual revolting looking female MC, It would be at least something new.
No. 1886283
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>>1885668Haven't you used these mousepads before?
No. 1886569
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>>1886391oh wow this is both laughter and rage inducing. Korean moids are out there fighting feminism with coom kek men are so low iq
No. 1886639
>>1885796Goddamn those designs look like a PS2 game from 2002, you'd think that in 2024 there would be certain sensibilities to either make both sexy or practical, not dressing only the female character in stripper wear.
>>1885800I'm still so fucking mad over them trooning Bridget out too, seeing the official site use "she" pronouns for him makes me want to a-log so hard I can't take it. They completely retconned the entire purpose of his character lore just because being a trap
triggers homophobic bicurious dudebros too much now, you need to be a brave and stunning trans woman. Everyone knows they didn't do it for woke reasons but to keep male coom but nobody dares to say it out loud.
No. 1886648
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>>1886639>Goddamn those designs look like a PS2 game from 2002That's offensive to PS2 designs.
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I don't understand why so many people that 'stan villains' also need to assert that these characters aren't problematic. For example they might say 'X character is a perverted porn producer, but they aren't fatphobic.' Or 'X is is a pedophile child trafficker, but they aren't racist' It's fucking infuriating.
No. 1886723
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>>1886013>>1886706I tried reading this and I'm dying of cringe. The knight rapes the orc girl, puts her in shackles, and takes her home as a "trophy" (he was going to kill her until he found out she was a female orc, and there's a moment where he tries to put his dick in her and she panickily assists because she's scared he'll kill her otherwise). In the beginning of the next chapter she has some cutesy flustered tsundere moment because he smiled at her.
Then they introduce the sweet-looking princess who has a crush on the knight, and within 3 pages she's revealed to be a jealous two-faced bitch and humiliates the orc girl, who of course gets saved by her rapist in shining armor.
I was hoping it'd at least be interesting since I haven't seen an isekai with an orc girl mc before, but no just another tropey thinly-veiled NLOG fantasy, but with a girl who honestly just looks like an elf with fangs if you see the cover art lol.
https://mangadex.org/title/83fa175e-f21f-4f63-8d18-66d0f340adb0/hazure-shuzoku-orc-ni-tensei-shitara-saikyou-kishi-sama-ni-torawaremashite No. 1886726
>>1886723yeah, it's really no different from most
abusive medieval european rpg isekai stories.
No. 1886732
>>1886723>>1886724I've long since lost my trust in manga/manhwa telling stories about unconventional appearances kek.
>>1884404 made it sound way more based.
No. 1886913
>>1886871Monsterfuckers love ugly monstruous female creatures. They will slap bob and vagene on the xenomorph queen and call it a day.
Men can meme themselves into wanting to fuck everything if their brain is really wired into something. The "low level" ones will stop at slightly ugly furries but the real degens want to fuck any kind of fantasy creature as long as it's female and bipedal.
No. 1886917
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>>1886878Kek too real, sometimes anons here are exactly like picrel
No. 1886944
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The thing I don't understand about korean moids whining about conscription as if it were the worst thing in the world is that there are plenty of nations that have conscriptions that are nowhere near as sexist as SK. My dad's description of conscript life was him hanging out with his friends, going to the library, driving a tank, and doing a lot of exercise. It was mostly kind of mundane, like university life, but with exercise and military drills, even in other asian nations like Singapore and Taiwan, they don't have anywhere the sexist bs of SK.
No. 1886958
>>1886944You should see the amount of whining
Finnish moids do regarding conscription.
>Oh our country has the highest prevalence of violence against women in Europe? B-But us men are required to attend 6 months of military service (i.e. learning how to use weapons and getting into shape while getting paid and fed well)! No. 1887033
>>1886766I don't like it when female MCs are "boring" only because that almost always means they're going to be passive and pushed around by the male LIs. I don't like that kind of relationship dynamic.
>i keep seeing people wish they could date the heroine instead and how much prettier she is than the romanceable guys. or when there's a couple they are like "move male char she's mine".I hate this shit too. Wherever you go you can't escape women being objectified for their appearance, even by other women. Otome is supposed to be an escape from that.
No. 1887073
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So Internet funnyman JelloaPocalypse's team Discotek Media(Jello and his friends) got into a controversy after revealing they filled an official dub with entirety pop-culture references, changed the entire story and insulted both the original work and it's creator
https://web.archive.org/web/20240211065805/patreon.com/posts/98245655>Many of you probably already know this about me, but I am a romantic and love writing Actual Good Romance (tm) because nobody else on earth seems to know how to do it.>Frankly, having the dub come out this good in the end is a little frustrating. Anyone who watched this show as a kid and has fond memories of it and revisits the dub will think "Wow! It's just as good as I remembered!" No it isn't. We made it good. This show SUCKED!!!>I'm very, very proud of the work we did. I think we turned an unremarkable and frustrating 3/10 show into a pretty funny and mostly watchable 7/10. I want to show off what we did! However, I don't really want to recommend that people watch LoveCom in order to see it.>This is one of those series that was written by a very strange person, kinda like 50 Shades of Grey, and it just gets stranger and stranger the longer you look into it. The way all the characters talk and interact is wrong. The way Risa is painted as the good guy despite makes exclusively bad decisions makes everything feel like it's written by a woman with "I HATE drama!!!" in her Twitter bio and then five separate callout tweets right below it. You get the sense the author sees the world the same way Risa Koizumi does, and Risa Koizumi as a character only makes sense if she is a psychopath who does not understand human empathy.>"Of note: the Mangaka also makes a cameo in the final episode of the anime. She shows up as a fashion designer and everybody praises how pretty and talented she is. She then tells Risa "Its my job to make you look good!">I think you failed, ma'am.>Lenti was the head writer on this and all their decisions were final, but I did tell them that if we didn't cut the characters praising the mangaka out of the episode in our dub, I would quit the co-writing position on the spot." No. 1887095
>>1887085Didn't he complain about sexualization in mha? Doesn't seem the type to be able to watch isekai.
It's all just cashing in on the anime fad, really. Shoujo is just "the least anime".
No. 1887100
>>1887073God, this is everything I fucking despise about the american dub industry: taking something someone else made, scribbling your own burger pop culture vomit and quippy writing over it and claim you made it better. Not only is it insulting to the writer who made the original thing herself, but it also makes you look like a jealous frustrated wannabe.
I know some people can't stand TeamFourStar making DBZA more serious and dramatic the longer it went on, but I admire they humility on telling everyone at any given chance that DBZA is just a bastardization of the original work and that it's by no means "better," I know it's a low bar, but still.
No. 1887112
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>>1887104>>1887095guess I was right, cause he has an open fart/scat fetish account.
No. 1887113
>>1887073Out of all the anime out there, why did they have to fucking ruin this one.
I think I'm gonna go watch it again, subbed.
No. 1887262
>>1887073Apparently very few of his changes made it to the end product, most people are saying the dub script is more or less similar to the subs. Picrel is a statement from the company who made the dub.
Still absolutely insane that he had the balls to spill all his shit like that though. Hope he never works in the industry again. Men have no fucking respect for women’s media, I don’t know how many times I’ve heard men default to comparing women’s romance stories to 50 Shades or Twilight without a second thought because they fundamentally don’t respect what women write.
No. 1887508
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Kek, these people are crazy.
No. 1887604
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No. 1887832
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>>1886391korean moids plotting about how to get westerners on their side to attack women artists
No. 1887853
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I hope this koren incel shit drives more women into becoming misandrists. It made me laugh to learn that the artist for Furina, Korea's favourite genshin character, was a full blown misandrist and they couldn't do anything to fire her because she works for a chinese company and lives in shangai.
No. 1887869
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Got into an argument with some bozo regarding trooning out kids, I looked up her profile. She's a pro-shipper whose entire account is dedicated to shipping either the brother and sister from the incest game or JoJo characters. lmao(vendettaposting)
No. 1887871
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>>1887869this isnt your personal army
No. 1887878
>>1887870Never heard of that.
I'm pretty sure they either simply believed some random korean moids words or they fell for those mirroring posts that korean feminists do (which include talking about boys/men the way moids do to show how horrible it is to call somebody expired at 18 years old).
No. 1887884
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>>1887870>>1887878I looked into the incident sometime back, and it technically did happen. She was a member of Womad(not Megalia) and was living with an Australian family as an au pair. we can't know if she did molest/rape that boy, however she did post illegal photos of him online and claimed she raped him, which is still highly illegal.
https://www.koreadailyus.com/korean-radical-feminist-allegedly-committed-child-sexual-assault-australia/ No. 1887908
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>>1887886I could be wrong but I think that Korean radfems often face a lot of animosity(atleast on twitter) because of their extreme views. This is an old discourse but in 2022, a Korean radfem account on twitter had mockingly posted that the k-pop group G-Idle claim to be feminists while performing in garter belts and clothes that are akin to lingerie. She got attacked by other feminists from Korea(possibly libfems) who have the viewpoint that women should have the liberty to wear what they want without getting objectified. Eventually, her account got suspended kek but here are the qrts.
https://twitter.com/femipower_daily/status/1583697065066246144/quotes No. 1887947
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>>1887909>I dont understand how you can call yourself feminist then consoom kpop.I've spoken to a few, and their logic is that if they support the girls' group by stanning them, buying merch, and tickets, they are showing the companies and the world that women have "value". Their main proof was certain Blackpink members (who are feminists in their opinion) getting brand deals and being chosen to speak at certain charities
No. 1888112
>>1888105okay, so this is all about your personal preferences and not any fandom drama. shitty media gets popular for non-ship reasons too like flashy art or tropes, you're just singling out the reason you don't personally like. also shipping
is a way to enjoy a story.
No. 1888230
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slightly unpopular opinion, but I don't think the modern eltingville club fandom is that bad.
No. 1888248
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The company behind the Lovely Complex dub released a statement. They didn't name names but this is almost certainly about JelloApocalypse. 1/2
No. 1888445
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>>1886755girls who don't self insert in otome games are cringe. just read shoujo manga if you want to see some mega stacy get a hot bf
No. 1888534
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>Ukes are futanaris so they're transphobic
Well, that's certainly a new one for the books.
No. 1888545
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>>1888543This reply was fucking hilarious
>WOMEN ARE TOTALLY INTO MY ROT POCKET I SWEAR, IN FACT THEY'RE FORCING ME TO BE FUCKED BY MEN No. 1888573
>>1888538I can see how they'd assume the whole "men taking on the same oppressive gender roles as women" thing since m/m is guilty of that, but to call it "transfem" is reaching since the men are clearly still men and that's the whole appeal of it. Most fujos are vehemently against any sort of trans depictions in their media.
>>1888534Imagine thinking that you engaging in cartoons about twinks having their asses blown out is "revolutionary feminist action?" Just embarrassing behavior all around. Fujos like that are equally annoying and sanctimonious as the person replying to them.
No. 1888577
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>>1888573>Imagine thinking that you engaging in cartoons about twinks having their asses blown out is "revolutionary feminist action?"It's feminist in the sense that it's a complete dismissal of men's desires. Yaoi as a genre is completely female gaze in it's purest form and it disgusts men because of that.
Even gay men who don't like bara type guys and read BL instead don't really like it because they don't want to read about ukes getting raped and mpreg'd.
No. 1888610
>>1888577I wouldn't say completely dissmises but whatever helps you justify your porn.
>Even gay men who don't like bara type guys and read BL instead don't really like it because they don't want to read about ukes getting raped and mpreg'd.I don't blame them tbh. Most normal women, straight or not, don't want to read that shit either.
No. 1888614
>>1888538>>1888534Trannies think literally fucking everything in fiction is about them
>Inoffensive story about a female character for a normie audienceTrannies: omg she's totally a trans girl
>Story about a typical male action heroTrannies: omg she's totally a trans girl
>Story about a lesbianTrannies: omg she's totally a trans girl
>Story about a supernatural creatureTrannies: omg she's totally a trans girl
>Story about a male character for the female gazeTrannies: omg she's totally a trans girl
Troons are just narcissists who think you're always fucking talking about them. Everything is about them. Based for fujos to make them seethe, they can't handle when the world doesn't revolve around them and their fetishes as much as they try to force it to.
No. 1888656
>>1888634Gay men will
never ever defend you while you dedicate entire videos to defending their fake honor. So pathetic.
No. 1888806
>>1888534This guy has been on my radar for awhile. He's one of those "feminist" TIMs who repurposes radfem rhetoric about misogyny to be about him. These men have the biggest
victim complexes over something they chose to be.
>>1888538I don't think seme/uke and omegaverse is exempt from criticism but not all BL is violent rape with the uke as a stand-in for a woman? I'm not even a fujo but I never understood this "yaoi is bad because it's all rape" argument when I could go on a manga site right now and find plenty of BL that isn't.
No. 1888828
>>1888820This always seems weird to me, like just how manly does both characters have to be? Like, isn't the trendy bl thing right now between two buff guys and a giant robot?
It just seems like an excuse to bully women into liking ugly and fat/old men or else it's misogynistic self inserting.
No. 1888854
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Don't you nonas ever get tired of arguing about yaoi? Variations of this infight happen constantly. It's so repetitive I have to assume it's the same five or so people sperging about it every time and they all have short-term memory loss and severe autism.
No. 1888893
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>>1888577>Even gay men who don't like bara type guys and read BL instead don't really like it because they don't want to read about ukes getting raped and mpreg'd.You really believe that? As much as I dislike fujos, I can acknowledge that gay moids are far worse. They write novels and erotica about how much they want to constantly rape little boys. They are born degenerates. fujos though nowhere near as bad, are still brain-rotten. I guarantee there's at least a couple who looks at picrel post and thinks "that's hot"
No. 1888977
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>>1888973>well I mean fujos ARE disgusting degenerates I mean you said it, not me and it's not unfounded either.
(posting bait all over the site) No. 1888992
>>1888977>reddit huntingFrankly, I'm surprised this sort of collage isn't here more. You can probably find the same response for any sort of media.
Seems kinda fun to find the most retard "this made me trans", like some fucking fast food meal or some shit.
No. 1888993
>>1888984How is reading cutesy fanfics about Naruto and Sasuke dating or romcom manga with occasional sex scenes between two fictional guys equal to men watching real women getting raped and tortured on camera?
>>1888986Shut up or she'll start sperging about how her grandma is a irl shotacon for marrying a way younger guy because it was the tradition back then.
(taking the bait) No. 1889008
>>1888877Stfu ♥
>>1888973>>1888980It's one specific anon starting infights every single time like a broken record, it's so fucking tiresome.
>>1888816Does this message mean to imply Mtfs are not humans??? KEK
>>1888998I'm curious! I always imagined japanese side would be fairly calm. How is it really?
>>1889002Is it confirmed to be Paki-chan though?
(infighting) No. 1889017
>>1888999>>1889000Latin American and Brazilian fandom is still not as bad as American fandom so I can tolerate it better.
>>1888998Japanese and Korean fandom is mostly OK to interact with. Because everyone is translating I think it results in stilted, formal speech that acts as a sort of restraint on worse impulses. But I'm sure the Koreans and Japanese are vicious among each other.
No. 1889022
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>>1889002this has 1,1 million views and near 400k likes, like you can't deny there isn't a strong correlation at least.
No. 1889029
>>1889014I'm ta, and that's what i suspected, honestly. Very recognisable style. I guess 2 of them are derailing, thank you for the answer.
>>1889019Kek at the japanese fandom, i can't even tell if it's better or not.
>>1889016Homo relationships written by women have (not always but often) an interesting story, character development, drama, etc. They have literally value in other words
I agree, it's true to most of the female-written erotica. If you take porn from male-written rotica, there's no genre.
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>>1889027It seems to be growing there as well, there's a popular korean FTM vlog channel, who titles all videos with "BL"
No. 1889049
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>>1889036>>1889032that's literally propaganda gay moids use to feel better about themselves, the vast majority of gay men are rather ugly, they have better grooming standards but that's about it, fags are just more manipulative, by your logic the moid in the back should be far more attractive.
No. 1889080
>>1888980>Female fandom is halfway synonymous with BL too so they're actually retardedThis is a very reductive and self-centered perspective on female fandom, not everyone likes yaoi
>>1889015I don't understand why turning into a "gay boy" is such an obsession for so many tifs, it baffles me tbh. Whatever correlation there is it should be studied because it's actually interesting albeit disturbing the effect that type of media has on women. Inb4 pakichan, I'm neutral about yaoi so please quit tinfoiling
No. 1889084
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>>1889036the attractive gay men in question.
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which characters have been the biggest victims of transification for you? ftm headcanons are usually way less offensive than their mtf counterparts kek since it's just weeb girls going ''he's just like me'' i guess..
No. 1889089
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>>1889086happens to every single little boy character whose personality isn't being a pervert.
No. 1889092
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>>1889080>This is a very reductive and self-centered perspective on female fandom, not everyone likes yaoiI'm also neutral about yaoi but I hate it when people assume I like bl because I lewd men in my drawings. I ask for non-moidy romance recommendations and my tra friends give me tif stories or bl lol.
>>1889086I believe the worst ones I've seen are those of real people or their avatars. These are non trans identifying people except for the rightmost character which is a woman who just goes by she/they.
No. 1889098
>>1888534>>1888538Same 2 or 3 anons baiting for the 100th time about a topic that has been discussed ad nauseum in every board, but I'm over here just wondering if the pendulum is already swinging so quickly back. Is it going to be encouraged to crybully fujos out of fandom again? This time instead of TIF feefees because of TIM feefees? Even someone like me can tell this argument is embarrassing. How does a genre that's called BOY'S LOVE that clearly delineates that all characters are MEN make a "transphobic" attack? I'd sooner agree with the most insane autistic fujo faghag gene pool reject than even a single tranny who thinks that any cases of misogyny in male/male content affect him in any way.
>>1889086Deku is THE ftm projection posterchild
No. 1889110
I made an anti-fujo cringe thread if anyone wants to join
>>1889096 i dont wanna spam this thread with anti fujo autistic takes, the cringe of paladinboo alone is enough to kill several small horses.
No. 1889118
>>1889106youre thinking of poppy z brite (who is genuinely deeply untalented and made up for this with shock value as you rightly point out; shes also an early example of a yaoi-addicted tif interestingly) but calling her a proto-fujo is stupid, kirk/spock had been a thing for decades at that point, bl in japan developed in the 70s, lesbian fujoshi mary renault was writing her alexander fanfiction in the 60s etc etc
sage for dumb sperging about fujo history
No. 1889120
>>1889110Thank you
nonnie. Good thread idea.
No. 1889186
admins made me move the thread to snow
>>>/snow/1966263 hope they dont sperg out and lock it again considering there are so many milky cows in the anti fujo sphere
No. 1889207
>>1889108It's actually a
youtuber, tifs were projecting to him because one of his reoccurring jokes was how short he is and that he's insecure about it.
>>1889150I know it just got moved but that's so fucking funny.
No. 1889340
>>1889097It's kind of funny to think that straight men write more "fujo friendly" gay chemistry.
I mean, going off of stuff like fujobait and "I have gay feelings but it's not that type of show so instead there's waifubait".
No. 1889349
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>>1889118>>1889125Here's an excerpt Andrea Dworkin essay about this, she's obviously not talking about fujos, but she is talking about pro-kink, pro-pornography losers of her day. So, these types of people did exist even back then, they were in bubbles of decadence and essentially, like most fetishes, it was pushed forward. It was likely that poppy z brite came from a similar background.
(derailing) No. 1889401
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>>1889349the people she mentioned
>Pat Califia - was formerly a lesbian feminist and is now a bisexual transman. During Drowkin's time, Califia wrote extensively about feminist lesbian bondage and the empowering aspects of BDSM, as it challenges cis-hetero-patriarchy>Amber Hollibaugh - a self described "high femme gypsy dyke" who wrote and campaigned tons for "free sexuality" gay rights and the early queer scene >Gayle Rubin - Where do you I begin with this one, also formerly a lesbian and now a trans man, she was deeply involved in the most extreme aspects of BDSM. her entire personality revolved around doing every immoral and deemed it, "revolutionary and queer". her most famous incident involved burning a swastika into their lover's thigh with a branding iron(mine you Rubin was jewish herself)>Ellen Willis - Compared to everyone else, it is kind of weird that she was mentioned. her worst sin was being high-brow and having a lot of casual sex. Not super kinky BDSM-sex, but she had a lot of sex with men, right-wing men, left-wing men, young men, old men, the sons of her colleagues, the husbands. she loved sex and cigarettesAnd it's easy to think that these are some random groups of degenerates. However, they were the leading authorities of feminist academia at that time period, and even now, their ideas make up the canon of not queer theory, but feminist studies
(derailing) No. 1889411
>>1889298You're right about always existing culture posers, but I feel there isn't a place to discuss things without them watering down the dicussion with their surface takes on the media anymore.
>In another thread, someone's accusing a character being ddlg kinkIt could be because some people them just consume the media through ao3 fanfiction. I see so many describe characters like their smut tags without any depth beyond what position they think the characters would be in when they fuck. I wouldn't mind if they just liked the smut or the aesthetic if they had some self-awareness.
No. 1889529
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Why do certain pieces of media seem to draw in more TIMs and TIFs then other, Fallout New Vegas is infested with for example, same goes for Gravity Falls. These two are well-made properties, but there are tons of other well-made properties that don't seem to have troon infestations, so what's the real cause>
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>>1889529I bet Gravity Falls is because there's a headcanon that Dipper might be a tif (because, you know, twins cannot be a man and a woman, it has to be two women or two men, like Alex Hirsh and his sister). So of course TIFs want to think Dipper is a tif so they can kin with him.
Not related, but I hate when people see a pink, white a baby blue combo and think "(insert shit) said trans rights!". Cannot just be because the color combo is supposed to be cute?
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literally me
No. 1890205
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>>1889401>>1889349Thank you nonnas for information! I can't stop admiring Dworkin. Fetishes are disgusting and degrading
(derailing) No. 1890209
>>1889523samefag
>>1889016 and I really enjoyed Purdy. I'm not saying it's impossible for men to write quality literature involving homo relationships but it seemed rarer than women writing good things, albeit fanfiction. Thanks for recommendation, nonna, I'll check it out.
No. 1890224
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>>1890107Probably a joke. This has been around.
No. 1890250
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I love TV Tropes autism.
No. 1890345
>>1886815just like goth chicks
once hated, now pornified
No. 1890394
>>1890377I want both
>>1890390I would not choose him as a potential Bill
No. 1890413
>>1890372she's a fandom oldfag. The EC 'fandom' didnt exist until the nerd abuse threads started popping out in /co/ in 2020
>>1890377god i hate how newfags that found EC through tiktok ''want to see him cry and admire hm uguuu uwuuwuwuw'' meanwhile based /co/ stacies fantasized about raping him and beating him with a crowbar
No. 1890414
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>>1890375>>1890400>>1890390>>1890377>>1890413I really don't understand why you can't just say "that guy is attractive" without any of this overly online pseudo-mental health filter
No. 1890426
>>1890250kek
TV Tropes was honestly so helpful for me back when I was a kid for finding new media that I actually enjoyed (I was really picky and struggled to get into a lot of popular stuff at the time, so being able to find things with character types/ideas and story elements I knew I liked was a godsend). It's much easier to find new or niche stuff now without it though. The autistic slapfights in the discussion sections of the site were also pretty funny
No. 1890496
>>1890471Here comes the deranged
victim act
(infighting) No. 1890505
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>hazbin fandom drove someone to suicide
it's always the most tranny infested fandoms
No. 1890521
>>1890505kinda hate how this sort of thing in fandoms is always framed through shipping wars or 'committed suicide over a ship' rather than focusing on the (retarded, but still nasty) harassment fans can get up to or the poor mental health of the
victim. I dunno, it cheapens the whole thing and sometimes makes it sound like they martyred themselves for a ship with how people will talk about it and use it for ammunition after the fact
No. 1890522
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>>1890509the troon identifies themselves as ''shay'' hilarious coincidence
No. 1890527
>>1890521This. It's mentally ill people who would've killed themselves over something else if it wasn't Hazbin Hotel. It's like blaming Sonic the Hedgehog and Pokemon for Chris-chan, HH is currently like the most watched Amazon Prime show worldwide so the fandom is huge, there's bound to be some amount of crazy fucks up to no good.
These stories also have the tendency to turn out to be fake or at least there's no proof of them ever committing suicide besides some "hello this is his sister and he killed himself last night please send prayers" post with nothing to back it up. Even this post (from a completely anonymous twitter account by the way) is now deleted so make of that what you will I guess.
No. 1890537
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>>1890531sadly, it's most than likely a woman. She anhero'd because of a yaoi ship, which screams female autism.
No. 1890551
>>1890507Reading this stupid fucking document is just baffling. Going off the chance that it isn't just fake and gay with staged conversations (because it's fully anonymous and none of these people have a real presence in the fandom), what the hell makes you just expose your friend as a mentally ill autist attempting suicide over their ship not becoming canon and outing them as developing a sick, parasocial relationship with a show owned by someone else and then blame it on Vivziepop "picking the wrong ship" and "ship wars" when the issue here is clearly about an individual's failing mental stability? People have slapfights over ships on the internet but to kill yourself over it is
not par for the course and shouldn't be treated as a "fandom issue". It's a mental health issue. I hate how many people are just taking this as face value and first of all believe it's real without any proof and secondly go all "rarrrr stupid fandom killing people once again!!!!!!" like it was some ship war casualty instead of a person already completely detached from reality making a drastic decision that they probably would've made over something else.
No. 1890604
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>>1890507RIP to the mentally ill TiF but this made me laugh
No. 1890641
>>1890505So basically, some unfortunate idiot used fandom/shipping as an output for their sickness and when it didn't fit their warped projections, it
triggered them into killing themselves? Not saying fandom doesn't play a role in causing these people to spaz out, yet I feel this person's problems were deeper than a cartoon ship. They probably would've killed themselves regardless, and neither the show or its creator should take responsibility for it.
No. 1890669
>>1890505Good. Kek
Btw unrelated but it's funny how trannies never relate to characters who are bald and ugly like in that picture, they always want to be cutesy kawaii anime or cartoons
No. 1890674
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>>1890426>>1890445It's very hit or miss…
No. 1890865
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Lemme bring you some fresh milk, and I will avoid making it /pol/shit, but it is disco elysium related
https://videogames.si.com/news/disco-elysium-dev-zaum-layoffs-last-writer-speaks-outIf you go to this girl's linkedin, she's a classic purple hair girlboss but she made pic-related comment which is ridiculously out of touch because
>1. She was born at the end of the war, there was no "party", the time of yugoslavia was bleak and a serious topic, she didn't live through this era>2. Googling her locally and from her facebook, she's a nepo baby and didn't suffer the economic hardships as a kid>3. She made a game about Nikola Tesla where she tries to whitewash his history and his misogynistic tendencies and neurotic outbursts, the game blurb describes him as queer No. 1890866
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>>1890865tl;dr, peak irony of online activism and communist era stories attracting rich kids
No. 1890919
>>1890913Exactly that one
I'd look up other writer's linkedins but the girl in that story only has the queer Tesla game and some short stories under her belt- suddenly gets hired for that position. Same thing going on in other games too, Baudelaire Welch at Larian:
>joins tumblr fan discord for baldur's gate 3>went to oxford, early 20s, has no experience>9 months later announces on server she got hired>overshares info on said server and mentions crunch several times>PR gets worried as the game gets mainstream and mods nuke her posts No. 1891128
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>>1890919It reminds me of these posts by an albeit reactionary user. He is correct in the assumption that they are forever coping with the fact that they come from wealthy backgrounds and aren't really 'tough,' so they are perpetually cultureless and fetishize objectively awful nations and states wear that as an identity.
https://twitter.com/0xAlaric/status/1606529569166688258?ref_src No. 1891623
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>>1891594nta but if you've ever been a part of any leftist group, you will have encountered these types. without the fail, the one's who most look like IRL reddit moderators, will be the ones advocating for violent revolution. People are usually confused and embarrassed most of the time, which they interpret as fear of them. funnily these are the same people who will unironically consider physical fitness to be literal fascism and eugenics. So they won't even train either.
No. 1891746
>>1891596Nabij se na kurac, glupačo <3
I am croatian as well and her comments are insulting and embarrassing
No. 1891812
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This is what happens when you have no basis in reality, and treat real people as if they were fictional characters.
No. 1891850
I know this is subjective to everyone, but I notice there is a worrying trend in fandom, to romanticize anyone who has ever opposed any sort of government. I'm seeing this with the new Ubisoft game Skull and Bones, which makes a big deal about how pirates were rebels against society, fighting against corrupt rich governments. While those governments might have been awful, there wasn't a single pirate who was doing it out of actual grievance against social oppression. Pirates in most cases for most of history were generational bandits, and in Europe during the Golden Age of Piracy, they were former sailors and officers. Most of the time, they would work for other rival governments. Again, this might seem like a trivial issue, but the fact that we have morons romanticizing actual terrorists, it might not be an unfounded fear.
No. 1891861
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>>1891812Korean moids are horrible, but they're not the ones that send women and girls in period huts. Still, I don't think BTS have the same moid mentality, but treating them as fictional characters to separate them from the country they're born is quite stupid. They're still humans that have beliefs that would ruin their career.
Funny how "period is gross" and then she post this.
No. 1891867
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>>1891850samefag, there's also a whole other discussion of people wanting to praise this game, specifically "to own the chuds"
Also Zheng Yi, was a concubine of a pirate warlord, she managed to keep herself alive cause she knew how to read and write and handled all related work for that warlord, when he died she quickly moved on to his son. Because without him, she'd never have a chance.
No. 1891944
>>1891850>>1891867i dont mind historical liberties in pop culture media as long as the creators and the fans acknowledges that it isnt historical accurate but its really disturbing how much misinformation has spread regarding pirates the last couple of years. People legit think that pirates where progressive mini-societies where people opposed colonialism and oppressive regimes while fighting homophobia and ableism. I doubt the writers of light-hearted pirate media genuinely believe this but the fans do. Whenever you mention pirates both online and irl there will always be at least one person chiming in to tell you how cool and open-minded pirates actually were.
Not everyone is a history buff and everyone is going to have misconceptions about history. But progressive pirates is a misconception that only happened because people memed themselves into believing it and it falls apart as soon as you think about it for more than 2 seconds
No. 1892076
>>1892064oh god, hopefully this doesn't start some shit again. this isn't new, honestly. there are a lot of women who prefer men who looking interesting over conventionally attractive. for example, while a lot of the early slash shippers were into kirk, they loved spock despite how unfortunate leonard nimoy looks for the strong facial features. same reason why they love that one guy from hannibal. and honestly? for a lot of them, personality trumps appearance, especially in characters like astarions case.
some women do exaggerate their disinterest in conventionally attractive males as some sort of social justice type of shit, but i get why they're over it. i'm sure they've felt alienated for disliking chiseled jaws and rippling muscles like women are told to, and so, they think its a "fuck you" to society disliking that.
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>>1890919I know that what she did in 2016 and whatever game she was working on since 2015 is probably irrelevant but she was in an internship before joining Paradoxica and later on Larian. She had experience or at least enough to be able to spin in when applying for the position or bumping into relevant people in the discord server.
No. 1892080
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>>1883330Simply by the existence of that Lambdadelta profile picture, the autogynephilia behind your female illusion is apparent to Furudo Erika. What do you think, everyone?
No. 1892173
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why do male trannies like her so much?
No. 1892208
>>1892173Do they?
I love Persona 3 immensely more than the other Persona games and I never look at discourse surrounding it. You'd think they'd latch on a girl from 5 or god forbid 4, seen as it's the only one with actual gay/trans themes (2 not included)
No. 1892215
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>>1891968>but I blame that OFMD serie for even make people think pirates were gay too.it started before that, with One Piece and Black Sails
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>>1892208yeah troons love p3.
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>>1891850Also pure nit-pick, The game is set in Southeast Asia and the East African ocean, but apart from featuring black characters and a few Asians, there is little to indicate its connection to these regions. The costumes are vaguely reminiscent of the golden age of piracy in the West, while pirates from Southeast Asia wore outfits more similar to picrel.
No. 1892288
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>>1892283>>1892257This is a real phenomenon, the 'devotion' people have for fandom and modern pop idols comes from a human desire for faith and community, obviously not comparable in the actions and morals they bring out, but they come from the same place.
No. 1892294
>>1892288>obviously not comparable in the actions and morals they bring outI disagree. A lot of mainstream fandom morality nowdays is "babys frist approach to Christian ethics" with all the mistakes and gross weak points that come from being poorly educated, but they make up for it with religious fervor.
I don't think there is that much difference between the religious understanding of the peasants of the 18th century in southern europe and nowdays "liberal" fangirls sans a few mentions of Jesus.
The real difference between the religious organization of Christianity and fandom, is that fandom is truly decentralized. The Protestant Revolution and then The Charismatic Renewal They never reached the level of depth necessary and possibly never will, but in a hypothetical case it would look like that. An actual decentralized, individualized western religion is like the BTS fandom. One could say it's actually the BTS fandom. Or any big fandom.
No. 1892303
>>1892296Kek. But also as cultural christianity falls apart and in general the masses turn to simpler concepts, it becomes less"christ-like" and more "abrahamic-like". I would say it's less about the figure of the Son of God/God Made Flesh (a bit of a complex idea for someome who is not that used to it) and rather someome who is very in contact with the divine. A prophetic figure.
So she's the female Muhammad actually.
No. 1892311
>>1892304Because fandom is truly decentralized. Unlike religion, where the mere presence of a dogma implies at centralized organization.
My point was that the religious revolutions of the last ~700 years They tried to make Christianity as decentralized as possible, obviously this has the limitations of religion itself but the ideas are there. Fast forward to today, where most people are disenchanted and lost with religion, yet still want a community and find the concept of fandom, which is naturally the endpoint of the different christian revolutions without that pesky Christian dogma getting in the way of freedom. Obviously they're going to thrive here, and making everything miserable too because atomized groups of people defining the "canon" (but now they actually can refute the author!) is inherently a miserable experience. Add cultural understanding of Christian ethics to the mix and its a legit disaster. And now add that fandom is the only support system for a lot of these people and no joke if social media wasnt as massive we would possibly have irl confrontations.
To clarify, I don't think there it was anything that fandoms could do to avoid the invasion of pseudo christianity. It was always very compatible, and it's not the fandoms fault.
No. 1892338
>>1892321Well, no. I'm talking about the specific type of person discussed above. It's not an explication for all things fandom, but rather "why this people are in fandom even if by all things but in name are religious fanatics" and that is because due to some historic events, they tend to be very compatible with that model of community, and it suits their sensitivities well. Thats it. About puriteen discourse, idk/idc.
Also obviously fandoms can't overtrown a country, it's not about having that power either. The point is that no one can do that level of organization, because fandom is not a religion. Also no one can veto the crazies or impose a dogma, because no one has that power of organization, because fandom is not a religion. Yet that thought is present because a lot of people wished that religion was more decentralized/ a lot of people nowdays wishes that fandom was more centralized. Yet neither of them are going to happen and we have this werid phenomenon of fandom evangelism, that is here to stay no matter what.
>>1892328Then you never read kpop fans because sadly they reinvented religious misogyny quite successfully lmao.
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>>1892064women in the west dont see fandom and hobbies as an escape, they see it as a form of activism. So while japanese women pick up otome to forget about their ugly misogynistic moids, western women see it at yet another form of activism, and since they are pickmes at heart they cant bear to see a genre where their little moidlings arent coddled and have actual physical expectations. It's why all western otomes have hideous realistic moids while the girls still look like cute waifus.
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>>1892362its set to unleash its uglyness this year
>>1892368because we cant have attractive men because it offends pickmes and moids. Pic rel is the female version of the fat bald moid. Not a single female character is as ugly as their male counterparts.
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>>1892064This is a prime example of their delusion!>>1876036 said it best, they've guzzled down so much wokie nonsense that they genuinely believe characters meant to be Japanese high-schoolers are actually white men. According to them, anyone who is fit or thin and has proportional aesthetically pleasing features is automatically "white." and it would be one thing if they kept bad taste to themselves, but no, they actively shame you and call out if you don't include 'fats and "melanite" and femme rep' in your husbando list.
No. 1892431
>>1892374>According to them, anyone who is fit or thin and has proportional aesthetically pleasing features is automatically "white."And there's a whole topic regarding how people want to interpret races onto 2D characters, or think about how they should actually look (most of the time, this clashes with the art style and aesthetic). Unless an animated series is specifically going for a hyper-realistic artstyle, the complexities of human races can never be accurately depicted. Even a semi-realistic series like Carole and Tuesday still takes liberties with human designs, and that's perfectly fine, The issue is that it's never satisfactory for these room temperature-IQ children, so they whine enough and half-hearted changes are implemented, and it never works out well.
>>1892427had to fix some spelling mistakes.
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>>1892426the claim is Anng and Sokka have "Caucasian" features, and she even showed photos of artists that "fixed" them.
No. 1892482
>>1892440I know they're a bit of a forbidden topic these days, but I really wish these people would actually learn just how many different groups around the world possess 'caucasoid phenotype' traits or were historically considered 'caucasian' in facial structure. That aside, pretty much all the child/teen characters in atla had simple button-style noses, with adult noses (and faces in general) being more detailed/realistically structured, so of course they'll look different as adults. Adult-Sokka looks like his dad anyway, who also had a 'white people' nose then, I guess lol
>>1892439>>1892445I feel it's less that they view these characters as real people (god I hope this isn't how they see/treat real people), and more that they don't see a cartoon as a representation of a human person that exists to serve a fictional narrative, but rather more granular and abstract things such as being representative of a particular race or group that exists to serve some real-world idea/agenda. It's very frustrating and silly, and they often don't understand symbolism in general unless it's to talk about coding, which feels like an academic term for headcanon at this point with how it's used kek.
>>1892451God I hate that film, it didn't even manage to look realistic beyond the rendering and models, the movement and associated animal behaviours are terrible- something I wouldn't ever say about the original because it knew what it was and is great for it.
I think an aggressive push for realism comes both from chasing technological advancements in visual effects (and they are cool and fun to work with, don't get me wrong) and also because realism and grit in media has been pushed as superior to stylisation for some time, so you have multiple generations of creators who think they're too good for kiddy stuff like cartoons or genre fiction. It doesn't help that the directors for films like The Lion King (or any recent Disney LA film, really) are essentially commissioned to make these films, rather than it being something they were chomping at the bit to make, so they try to 'own' it by changing it to suit their tastes. You also see this with Marvel and DC comics, where writers clearly have no interest in doing justice to the legacy character they've been given to write, so they warp them and the whole comic into OOC nonsense to air out their political opinions and petty grievances or whatever else makes them happy. These people might put out good work if they were writing original content, but that's not what they're being hired to do, and the bitterness comes through.
No. 1892495
>>1892482I think an aggressive push for realism comes both from chasing technological advancements in visual effects (and they are cool and fun to work with, don't get me wrong
they already pushed realism trash and failed, does anyone remember all those image mover hyper realistic mocap movies likes mars needs mom?
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>>1892423Technically speaking, this narrative about pirates isn't their fault either, it goes back to the New Left of the 70s, specifically one guy, Peter Lamborn Wilson, Wilson popularized the idea of pirates as rebels against society and governments of the world, championing freedom and equality with his book "Pirate Utopias"
Brushing away the active slavery and raiding, as well as the fact that most pirates, including both Europeans and North African pirates, usually retired to the nation that offered the most wealth and land. But his ideas went on to influence pirate literature, media, and academic concepts about pirates, from Pirates of the Carribean to our Flag means death and every single twitter post about how pirates were "queer" and egalitarian, It's also worth knowing that he was also a pedophile who frequently wrote for NAMBLA and his ideas about "Full Freedom" extended to the freedom of adults being allowed to rape children.
This article goes more into it.
https://libcom.org/article/paedophilia-and-american-anarchism-other-side-hakim-bey(derailing) No. 1892541
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>>1892482I liked TLK remake, but while I admit humans are the ones that put name on emotions (Oh a dog is wagging its tail? it's happy, etc…), I do believe that some face movements except for talking would have give more realism to the movie while not overdoing it like Aslan.
Picrel: A tiger was released to wild and this was his reaction. The same one that Simba would have done seeing all these wildebeest coming at him.
No. 1892555
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>>1892495Based pirate historiography nonna.
80s/90s edgelord trust fund baby Kathy Acker also bears a lot of the blame for "pirates were cool and queer and progressive and there were totally girl pirates who were just as badass as the men."
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>>1892356Reminds me of this game I stumbled upon some time ago. I don't think it's ever coming out but I find it baffling that someone would ever consider this an ideal harem. Indie devs usually make stuff for themselves, but shouldn't there be some consideration for the audience too kek I didn't like any of the characters in Dream Daddy either but they looked somewhat okay and the overall dad gimmick and already famous devs helped it become popular, none of these ugly games will get the same amount of attention just for having realistically ugly moids
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>>1892440This is funny when in E Asia white people are known for their large "tall" noses
No. 1892585
>>1892495The push for realism might fail in regards to animated kids movies or ones like that old Beowulf film (that was made too early, rip), but they're not the core motivator, CGI and VFX for live action are. The Lion King remake is a bit of an outlier in regards to all the shitty Disney LA remakes anyway, as it has no humans in the cast to greenscreen in (and thus no live action component) and was directed by a guy who got tasked with making a movie involving singing animals and decided he wanted it to look like a documentary instead. The creative trajectory of the film was fucked from the start, it was never going to go well, realism or not.
>>1892541My complaints are less so about the facial expressions (though those definitely could have been pushed further without breaking 'realism' or anthropomorphising any more than anything else in the film) but more so animation in general- it's too stiff and straightforward in a way that animals/living things just aren't, which mostly comes up as a problem because of how hard the film is chasing realism. I will admit that that'll be a nitpick to 99% of people though kek, but we're all autistic about something and for me it's animal behaviour and biomechanics. Ah well, glad you enjoyed it
nonnie and you're right about the tiger
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>>1892564Western otomes are really disgusting. I am never touching one of these. These women have an allergy to non repulsive male characters.
No. 1892609
>>1892564why do these games always have such stiff, ugly art? I get that they're pretty easy to make as far as games go, and so will almost always be entirely self-indulgent because they're made by indie devs bumbling about getting into drama (and not an experienced studio that knows its market and how to cater to and profit off of them), but it's odd how they seem to attract the same kind of art each time.
>>1892591isn't that greasoid from some serial killer one (or something, not my scene)? I remember when it was briefly all over tumblr, not a good time for my eyes.
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>>1892080>Terf ErikaI could see it. It's not exactly hard to point out even as an intellectual rapist however.
No. 1892709
>>1892705Yasu is an eunuch raised by
abusive people as female, not a tranny in the traditional sense. But trannies still eat that shit up. Yasu's story is quite tragic honestly, when he cries after learning his whole life is a lie it's quite disheartening
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>>1892373That's actually a transwoman. So he's basically a feminine male counterpart to the fat bald guy, and all 3 of the black characters are male. Feels weirdly racist in a way since liberals are obsessed with "TWOC" over real women who are black.
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No. 1892750
>>1892737>its embarassing that 4chan fags can do better VNs than gendiesBecause they actually wanted to write a VN.
The issue with western VN developers is they don't actually know anything about the medium or it's tropes, they just looked at hatoful boyfriend and didn't actually play it and then assumed 'oh VNs are were you date anime girls so LETS MAKE IT QUIRKYYY'
Ironically most actual VNs are way more weird than what western ones put out which don't really have any interesting or quirky writing outside of the base concept of dating ugly dads or whatever.
Just compare DDLC to totono. Totono's a game that's meant to celebrate the the medium while also giving critiques while DDLC is a game that doesn't understand and has never participated in it while still trying to 'critique' it.
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>>1892754Why did you theorize they are lesbians and then backtrack in the next sentence, not to mention deleting twice and adding your weird analysis on how women who like cute boys
are lesbians (but not real lesbians), just cut out the middle man and say bisexuals. Also that still doesn't make sense. What is going through your mind today.
No. 1892767
>>1892762It's not bait, I'm allowed to tell my opinion on fictional characters too. It's not a big deal, it's just fiction and taking these things too personally sucks but I know this website has extreme husbandidags too. It's like you can't say you like something outside the norm. I also like the Yakuza games guys, that's a middle ground between bishie and manly looking I guess
But I'm not offended at people calling them ugly kek, I mostly find it funny how everyone is quick to defend their plastic bishies with their lives on this thread, how dare someone like something different to them kek
(derailing) No. 1892771
>>1892439Same here, until I got into tumblr I guess.
I honestly think a lot of mangakas or Japanese character designers are the same because they focus so much on aesthetic or character appeal.
No. 1892785
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>>1892721>Senshi D. MeshiIs this bait? It's a bit strange it keeps coming up when there's as many androgynous pretty boys around.
No. 1892819
>>1892800>>1892809It's more that it's strange to see it more than a few times here as "That bara dwarf show" when the cast has a fair variety and the rest of the main male cast have gotten fairly similiar attention.
If anything, I've seen more for the divorced dad hobbit.
No. 1892820
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>>1892814Fanart mostly, which i imagine must be the most
toxic. I dont even use twitter outside of liking random drawings and i still somehow get shit like pic rel on my feed. So far I have been posting art on a locked acc i use as an archive, but I dont know if i should unlock it and try to interact with the fandom or keep to myself…
No. 1892837
>>1892737>its embarassing that 4chan fags can do better VNs than gendies.It's not an achievement, if you want to write any type of story you need to be a little bit dedicated to writing something interesting and coherent and gendies tend to either have terminal shit taste, no reading comprehension, or they like and recommend things for the wrong reasons
I've unironically seen someone on twitter saying that BL isn't feminist because it has no important female character which, ok sure whatever, but then the post was about recommending some cutesy magical girl anime for elementary school girls as if the stories, themes and target audiences were even remotely the same. And for some reason with Western VNs there's this weird element of irony that the writers and devs can't help but put everywhere. If we're talking about Japanese VNs there are many good ones about a bunch of different stories with different genres, even some of them that may seem like mindless porn at first have stories that make you read 10h worth of plot before the characters start actually fucking for 5 minutes, meanwhile in the West we have what? The fuking KFC otome game.
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>>1892846Ntayrt but I dont follow many western artists so most look like pic related.
What fanart are you looking at?
No. 1892855
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>>1892854nta but the ugly westoid fanart ofcourse kek. It's hilarious how they will project their retardation into fucking fictional races of human. Imagine being so insecure you gotta ''age up'' the fucking hobbit.
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>>1892837>weird element of ironyI feel like it's because they are ashamed of the work they put out due to either cringe culture or the awareness that they can't get close to what they are trying to copy. Especially the quirky ones that say "haha cringe is dead, right guys?" are scared of being perceived as weird for caring about something as silly as an otome, they can't take it seriously. That actually reminds me that that episode game and similar ones are probably equivalent to vns and those are always memed kek it has to be something about americans in general. They can't take their so called adult animated shows seriously either
>>1892855The image on the left is from the original manga artist. She did a drawing swapping everyone's races and he ended up looking like that as human, so he's not technically aged up
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>>1892780>Netflix has a weird fixation of hijabis dating white guys and removing their headscarf/hijabIt's more complicated than that if we're talking about muslims and ex muslims in Europe. The majority in my country is north african, I think it's the same thing in Spain so if you're talking about actual arabs in their own countries and not maghrebis they don't have enough lived experience to really relate to some of these tropes. I'm not specifically talking about that show because I haven't watched it
I've been told it's basically Gossip Girl for spanish zoomers but about media from the past decades, but when I say it's not just Netflix that has this "fixation" it's because racist white men are also obsessed with it to the point when in France "beurette" was the most searched tag for porn a few years ago and keep in mind that it's a racist slur, and then north african muslims are also obsessed with it for reverse reasons, they're already upset it's happening irl and they don't want to be reminded by the local pop culture that their female relatives are people and not baby pure and innocent making machines who should cook just like their moms.
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>>1892856Ngl I thought the lotr Hobbits are kinda cute so I just wanted to see that sorta interpretation.
If its bad/ages up, then it's okay.
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>>1892868Surprisingly not that I've seen.
His dadness is pretty emphasized though.
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>>1892356Validate is a game where the women aren't conventionally attractive.