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No. 465284

Genshin Impact is a free-to-play action role-playing game developed and published by miHoYo/Hoyoverse. The game features a fantasy open world environment and action based battle system using elemental magic, character switching and uses gacha game monetization for players to obtain new characters, weapons, and other resources.

Resources:
>Redeem codes without having to login
https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/gift

>Wiki

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Genshin_Impact_Wiki

>Build Simulation/Optimization

https://www.gscale.cc
https://genshin.aspirine.su/
https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/

>Database filled with pretty much everything found in game

https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com
https://ambr.top/en
https://gi.hakush.in/
https://homdgcat.wiki/gi/

>Build help

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNxZ2xab1J6o1TuNVWMeLOZ7TPOqrsf3SshP5DLvKzI/edit#gid=2001372201

>Character guides

https://keqingmains.com/

>Interactive map for overworld item locations

https://act.hoyolab.com/ys/app/interactive-map/index.html?lang=en-us#/map/

>Another interactive map

https://genshin-impact-map.appsample.com/#/

>Genshin Center, a resource center for the game

https://genshin-center.com/

>Event timeline

https://paimon.moe/timeline/

>Wish Simulators


https://gi-wish-simulator.uzairashraf.dev/
https://hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc
https://konopelko.github.io/genshin/
https://qiqisfather.github.io/weaponbanner/
https://qiqisfather.github.io/universal_roll_simulator/

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No. 465288

Ew, why did they make Capitano a megane?

No. 465306

nice thread pic I am sooooo ready for Pantalone to be playable… at least i really hope he will be. I love his character

No. 465317

>>465288
That's Pantalone, anon.

No. 465346

>>465306
Sincerely praying for that rumor about his adoptive daughter being playable instead being false. But with how Hoyo hates female players and the Fatui, it's likely.

No. 465351

>>465346
Didn't the leaks about Pantalone's adopted daughter being playable and Pantalone simply existing to ship her with the traveler come from a rather trusted source? I might be remembering wrong but it would fall in line. The same leak said that Tonya (Childe's sister) would also be playable and have a crush on the traveler.

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>>465306
>>465346
I agree anons! Nice to see other pantalone lovers in this thread… Even though there's not a lot of content for him obviously, and considering the current direction I won't dare to imagine there will be much once the time comes. He has so much potential to be a phenomenal and memorable character though. And I love everything about his design from the dark purple hair and glasses to the elegant robe. I really hope the death rumors aren't true as well, how would even the most braindead player not pick up on how jarring and strange that would be? And let me guess, to add insult to injury the replacement- I mean, daughter, would be an ugly coomwaifu with as much depth and intruige as a muddy puddle. If he is playable I'll instantly save and main him, if not hoyo can say bye bye to me logging in, I already started losing hope after capi. I'm such a pantasperg and that's my last thread of hope to care about this game.
I don't know if it's controversial or not but I like seeing him with arle. They would have interesting interactions.

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>>465358
leak in picrel (uncle 111) says that pantalone has a chance of either being an npc or being playable depending on "market popularity" (read: hoyo's whims). don't get your hopes up too much though, because being playable doesn't mean he won't get completely screwed over character-wise and relevance-wise. if anything, i feel like being playable would make character assassination all the more likely because they have to aggressively screw him over somehow for the crime of being a harbinger. arlecchino's shitty retcon taught us as much, and tbh the sudden appearance of this "adopted daughter" isnt very encouraging, that definitely wasnt the original plan for pantalone. the same leak also mentions that he's irrelevant to the plot either way, and that the female harbingers will also be irrelevant despite being playable (to the surprise of nobody).
i'm personally not a shipper and not very keen on how m/f ships with arle default to making her submissive even more than her fluffy-ass f/f ships, but i definitely would've loved for (pre-retcon) arlecchino to have more interactions with other harbingers. unfortunately it seems that the nu-team is very dedicated to not having harbingers interact at all, or to make their interactions a big nothingburger with a side of defanging (see childe and arle). compare and contrast bickering and passive-aggression even at a funeral during lazzo…i wouldve loved to see more pettiness of that kind kek. shame that's a pipe dream now.

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>>465358
Pantalone fans have it the worst. Even the best case cope situation is just fanfiction. Assuming they really are saving the best writers for Sneznaya, and the B team is working on Natlan, and everything goes back to normal, that means EVERY 5 star will be a harbinger, assuming they all live and are all playable. Columbina, Pierro, Capitano, Dottore, Sandrone, Pantalone. 4/6 are male, which could mean the gender split could be equal, which is already unlikely. Then “evil” male characters must be redeemed but to do that they must be given screen time. Capitano must also be revived as Genshin cannot release dead characters for whatever reason. Even in the best case scenario, the suave, smooth talking, cunning chess master we’re looking for may be butchered. Just look at Ayato.

If Dottore isn’t playable I don’t know what I’d do. I save so much wish and I play ever event in hopes of getting more resources to c6 r5. But if they kill him in favor of Slutya, I really would cry. I’d probably apply as a programmer to WuWa same day with my full resume. Shit, I’d do it for free if it would ruin Genshin. Too bad I’m not a Chinese yume. Then they’d be afraid of people like me.

No. 465389

>>465376
>Assuming they really are saving the best writers for Snezhnaya
nta, but the people who cared about the harbingers in any capacity left at the end of 2.x with the writing team change, and the new team has been trying to undermine the harbingers ever since. dont be fooled into thinking harbinger hatred is just a natlan problem, it's a fat xiao problem (3.x onward screenwriter). i should also add that the former head screenwriter wasn't just transferred to hsr, he flat-out left due to constant mistreatment from higher-ups, probably strategic negging so they could put nepo baby xiao in charge instead. the realistic hope would be that they go back to making male harbingers playable, but given the new team's hatred for both male and female harbingers, that would still mean either neverending humiliation or complete character assassination well beyond what anyone could imagine. you mention ayato not living up to expectations, but as an og arlecchino fan, i actually envy ayato's characterization since he still ended up more morally grey than her bleached retcon (even if his execution was lackluster). i really went through it because of how they basically 180'd her characterization and turned her into some generic angsty kuudere. i cant really offer you comforting words given the state of the writing team, all i can say is that i sympathize with you and that im sorry the harbingers are stuck here of all places.

No. 465400

>>465389
Thank you for your sympathy nonna, I am also sorry that true Arlechinno fans had their character butchered and sold back to them as a mommy Mary sue. Even worse seeing people praise it. I am very depressed and anxious about Dottore. I plan on quitting during the next summer event where the motherload of primos will put me comfortably in c1 r1 range if he ever releases. Even if I get everything I want, the wait and anxiety would have soured my yume joy.

Above all, I think we can all agree we have been robbed of our time by their abusive sunk cost and refusal to be transparent. We wouldn’t need to scream about leaks for years in advance if they would ever just speak to the players. None of us hate genshin and wish for its demise, we just want the good game we played all those years ago… I feel so cheated and strung along. But in the end, losing to hoyo is like loosing at chess to a dog, it really is my fault for expecting anything good. I wish I could pull a Kuro and make my own genshin, but even those guys are just gonna pump out waifus for their shit xerox of a xerox story. I want them to feel the same pain they inflict on the people that made their fandom. But the masses are stupid and complacent, Genshin wouldn’t die even if they released Slutya tomorrow. Total Honkai DEATH.

No. 465420

You know what's sad? I even liked some of the HSR husbandos more than some Genshin ones. I love the concept and design behind characters like Aventurine and Sunday and Blade, but it's true they suck at balancing the cast and I have no trust in them after what they did to Genshin. It seems to be a stupid move on their part to try and get the fujos and husbandofags over to their other games while shafting them in Genshin. This just means they have no trust they won't get fucked over again, and they're not going to try the new shiny game if their husbando is going to be on the chopping block while incels get pandered to. I can't believe the company fucked themselves this bad by listening to incels who only care about destroying games just to spite women. Hyv honestly for a while had a good brand when they branched out of waifu games. People who hate gacha still loved Genshin because the music is still great, the exploration is great, it's fun to play unlike most other gachas. People would give them a lot of grace for having husbandos in an rph type of game and even for the waifus not all looking and acting obvious goonerbait. Why the fuck would you change that?

No. 465437

>>465306
He's rumored not to be playable and instead his adopted daughter is. I wouldn't place any hope in him becoming playable. That rumor sounds too stupid to be real, which means it's something they would do to spite female players. Capitano had more hype than Pantalone and look what happened.

No. 465465

>>465437

Where is it said that he has a daughter? I can't find anything about that. I'll choose not to believe it so my yoom dreams aren't crushed kek

No. 465493

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The adopted daughter shtick makes me hopping mad. Men just assume that everyone has the same moe-rotted brain as them, so that the instant they see a cute girl they start cooing out over her and feel more amicable towards Pantalone. Well, fuck you; I don’t see women as little cute pets. If you don’t give me a genuine reason to like your newest waifu, like they did fantastically with Hu Tao, I’m not going to feel all soft for the pair of them just because “muh Anya-Loid ripoff!” I hope the little bitch burns in hell, but of course, they’ll probably make Pantalone sacrifice himself for her (despite having known her for 2 seconds or whatever).

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I look forward to the Sandrone engoodening, where they'll somehow turn the clearly unhinged individual we saw in the letter into a moeblob traveler loving waifu kek

No. 465562

>>465400
ayrt, i appreciate what you said too ♥︎ i definitely agree with the sentiment of wanting to put hyv through the same pain they've put us through, and i also feel terrible for the old head screenwriter who's watching all his hard work be mangled to thunderous applause. i don't think we were wrong to expect better, and i do believe we could have had better under an old writing team unburdened by negging/honkaishitters. even if it wouldn't have been perfect, it wouldve been miles better than what us harbingerfags are stuck with now.
>>465465
its from a cn leaker called uncle water who apparently called 6.x not being snezhnaya proper amongst other allegedly accurate leaks. it's kind of hard to get more info not being in the cn leak scene, but the person who cited this leak was also the only person ive seen who called skirk being playable in natlan, and in the same post they mentioned pantalone's daughter. don't let that crush your yume dreams though, the new team's vision for the harbingers is ooc by design and you shouldn't give it any more weight than you do fanfiction.
>>465534
akshually, that letter was written by the previous sandrone, weren't you paying attention to the lore nonnie? all the unhinged stuff was just baseless rumors spread by dottore to make his scientific competitor look bad. shes actually just a shy girl who wouldnt hurt a fly and cant talk to others because of anxiety, so she makes robots to feel less lonely, but really she much prefers people to machines…what, you don't think that's good writing? you think thats the polar opposite of what she was supposed to be? wow, i guess you must hate bleached—um i mean morally grey female characters.

No. 465598

>>465562
Oh that’s so terrible! I almost forgot about him. I know he was a moid but he was a moid with good ideas and he didn’t put his penis above making a good story for Genshin Impcr. He cared about his characters and his lore; and it must have been soul crushing for DaWei to force him out just for better coom. It so sick, how could Da Wei do this and have the nerve to cry infront of us as if he is a human being worth sympathy? I don’t mean to alog and try and start a witch hunt, but this man is evil. Were the billions not enough for you? Was our years of support and care not enough to line your pockets enough? You forsake your staff, your legacy composers and artists and writers, your fans, your own friends. For what end? Ego? Money? Honkai Impact 3rd? That game is complete slop! And I guess genshin is too. It might be over nonnas

>rumors made by Dottore

Who wants to take bets Sandrone and Dottore hate each other instead of logically working together with their combined expertise. And she moral high horses against him, despite being a murderer. If he lives long enough to be spoken of.

No. 465622

>>465376
I say this without malice nonna: if you expect playable evil Dottore, you're better off going to a different game. Otome games will have the evil guy you're looking for, but he's without a doubt not going to be playable in Genshin. Harbinger stans need to realize what you like is fanfiction. Especially if you're a yume, I would suggest playing an actual otome which would have the type of guys you want rather than hoping Genshin will give you a yandere evil guy.
>>465534
The evil part of Sandrone will be revealed to be Alain, the man. The good part will be the spirit of Mary Ann, and she will be the playable one.

No. 465691

>>465284
>Genshin lost 75% of their revenue in a month
And yet people are calling it a great game because it still sold like hot cakes and did much more than its rivals. This fanbase is retarded. Enjoy your powercreep and predatory tactics.

No. 465707

>>465622
But…but.. muh angsty psychotic yandere…. He was perfect yumebait. How am I meant to stop gooning now? They locked in in the basement for 4 years and now I know they’ll kill him? I’ve been waiting since the webtoon. Deep down I know you’re right, it just hurts to admit.

No. 465823

Im calling it
>katherine becomes relevant again and shes turned into a robot + blacksmith + wrestler + gardener anemo character who can fly and also has a motorcycle
>pantalone dies by katherines hands, his daughter becomes playable
>dottore dies under slutyas ass, his medium tall female segment becomes playable
>childe dies and his sister becomes playable
>Jester dies under tsaritsas hands because was being manipulated by him so she kills him
>sandrone and columbina have lesbian sex and invite the traveler for a threesome
>the tsaritsa uses all the gnosises as buttplugs
>tsaritsa also has a motorcycle
Ladies, I present… impact

No. 465829

>>465707
>muh angsty psychotic yandere
Actually I'm glad Genshin is spared from this type of yume.

No. 465901

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Which of the female characters do you think would be considered most popular among LC users? And why? I'd be willing to bet no one here dislikes Chiori. We all remember how she made incels seethe. If MHY ever wrongs her, I know I wouldn't be alone in being absolutely livid about it.

No. 466117

>>465901
Furina is up there.
Arlecchino would be too if they didn't rewrite her.

No. 466118

>>465829
Really I'm joking but I'm sure theres not enough Dottore spregs in this thread to want to hear about it. Dottore is neither a yandere nor a psychopath. He has the unique lore of being the few characters who are both arrogant and extremley self hating. He literally kills himself for a gnosis. His own voices constantly admonish him and even in Scara's story he loathes himself. He pities others for not knowing who he truly is and compares himself to a demon, something unreasonable and undefeatable. Just think of the lore we could have gotten if Scaramouche was still allowed to be a character. Dottore confronts his envy, and how he wishes to be accepted by society the same way Scaarmouche is, despite Scara being the real robot and him being a person. It's due to his evil and selfish nature, and he puts his goals above the suffering of others. Not because he's a sadist or takes pleasure in human suffering, he just cares more about benefitting himself, or even society as a whole independant of the gods that seemingly casted him away. This isn't all fanfiction, this is in the lore! It's all true, direct quotes. That's why I'm so scared. If this new writing team ruins everything, even if Dottore is released, we may unironically get molesttore, who is subsequently ass-murdered by Slutya!

No. 466121

>>466118
Based and truthpilled post, nonita. I have unreal amounts of hate for the portrayal of Dottore being a 2-dimensional yandere psycho because it does absolutely no justice to how he's actually written as - a cunning individual who can't help being the way he is, his sincere but selfish quest to seek out for the truth of the world and the limits of human capabilities driving him to doing things that are evil. It's like people keep intentionally sleeping on all the lore dropped on him right in your face because they simply want to goon to the thought of being choked by muh yandere daddy dottore.

No. 466125

>>466121
While I can't say that the gimmick of the whole evil yandere thing isn't nice, but I don't want the writers to fall for his flanderization! I couldn't bear to see it, especially if they fully retcon the fact that Dottore doesn't even know Collei. From Arlechinno's story, we know they aren't above using child abuse to steal sympathy, so I have little to no hope. Let my goon material just be fanfiction, but God forbid ever putting that in the story, or even having that be the wider interpitation. He has good and promising lore, a great story in the works, he's one of the best characters they ever written. I'd say he trumps Furina for the sheer fact he's actually done bad things. The hospital notes, Soreh's death, the hoyofair animations, the webtoon. He's my husbando God damnit! I won't stand for hoyo's slander!

No. 466166

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Not gonna lie, I hate that they're pushing Childe and Arlecchino as friends. All the moids crying about Tartali being a thing and not these two as a ship are annoying as hell too, obviously his ship with Zhongli has more content since its older, but most of the shippers aren't interested anymore. Feels weird to have him invite her into his home and to celebrate with his family, but I guess they're besties now and the Harbingers are really a big found family.

No. 466167

>>466166
I don't think this has anything to do with ships and more that they need more characters to put in a group picture and this family is just the safest option. Arlecchino is one of the women who feels genuinely gay.

No. 466168

>>466167
Also Arlecchino is the only woman they could put in a picture with Childe like this without the yumes crying for her blood like they were doing with Yoimiya. I don't think the moids care about Arlecchino much. Her hardcore fans seem to be mostly lesbians.

No. 466171

>>466167
>Arlecchino is one of the women who feels genuinely gay.
I don't agree, but okay. I mainly find it annoying they shill them together instead of just doing Childe with Teucer or by himself like usual, I think them becoming buddy-buddy after one meeting is retarded.

No. 466173

>>466171
Well, I'm bored of only seeing Childe with his NPC brother and since they keep postponing Snezhnaya people would like to see other characters. They can only market characters from the same region or organization, it's not that deep and overthinking holiday art. Do you think Nilou and Dehya actually visited Carneval in Brazil too?

I understand the disappointment over Arlecchino but not for nothing, but you guys should get used to your harbinger fanfictions not coming true and at least move on. The writing was on the wall with how Scaramouche became playable. I think Genshin has done a lot wrong but there's only so much "where's muh evil psychos" complaints we can have before it becomes too repetitive.

No. 466180

>>466173
I'd rather take Childe and his NPC brother over shilling another waifu where she doesn't belong, yeah. Anything to keep greasy scrotes from stroking their dick over dethroning slash ships or whatever, I just find the trends annoying.

No. 466182

>>466180
I don't think a single person sees this as ship art unless you're a crazy incel who sees cucking everywhere. It's as brainless as thinking Nahida is actually dating Scaramouche.

No. 466185

>>465707
My copium is that they'll make Dottore playable but as one of his segments instead of the man himself, unfortunately. Though no doubt they'll be messing it up like how they did with Scara

No. 466188

>>466185
Pretty sure Dottore is stated not to be playable but those leakers who predicted everything else accurately. I don't know why you'd even want him to be playable if you want him to stay evil. Anyone still hoping for that by now should have woken up and either deal with it or play a game that has what they want.

No. 466195

>>466188
Original Dottosperg here, the one with all the wishes. I will be officially quitting genshin impact. I realized I’m in an abusive relationship with either a shitty video game or a group of Chinese Incels. This slop isn’t worth my time or my writing, my Etsy shop, my modding skills, none of it. I hope Da Wei is stabbed to death by a crazed yume after he brought back Capitano just to kill him for good. I watched this video and was filled with indescribable rage. Fuck the lore, fuck the descenders, fuck the fatui, and most of all, FUCK that shitty useless game hi3. Genuine terrible waste of time, the game has been going down the shitter since Fontaine trailer, I’ve just been blind. We are NEVER getting another male, an edgy harbinger or even an edgy character and they have been purposefully screwing with us the whole time! Im gonna make my own genshin impact (with blackjack and hookers of course). Sage for alogging

No. 466197

>>466195
Based, nonnie.

No. 466201

>>466195
Genshin has been going down the shitter but "there's no rape ape for my yume goonette slop fantasy" is funny. Go play otome games with yandere routes, or Granblue Fantasy, there's a rape ape moid in there.(infighting/baiting)

No. 466203

>>466201
You're just stirring the pot for fun.

No. 466205

>>466201
She didnt say any of that

No. 466208

>>466201
I write an entire essay about how he’s not just an object for my obsession and is an actual character with promise who I was once excited about. But of course, all examples of female sexuality that isn’t “heh…. My wholesome 100 Yuri couple kissed…” is just gooner booktok c.ai slop and I’m just a dumb stupid woman who should go flick the bean to LADS. Go back to the ugly man thread or wherever your kind lurks.

No. 466211

>>459623
>>465823
Great minds think alike.

No. 466217

>>466195
>>466208
i'll have to watch this but holy shit, you're into modding? it's so difficult to find people who aren't big booba coomers even in "sfw" spaces. that said, don't mind the shitstirrer, nonna. some people out there can't help but paint darker characters with the same flanderizing brush, and take the opportunity to caricature their fans too. it's a shame that us harbingerfags who enjoy nuance gets flack from all sides because of it. something something rise of black and white thinking among fandoms, but for what it's worth, i enjoyed your dottore essay. some people also don't seem to understand that we're not upset over "fanfiction", we're upset over shit that was provably going to be in the game being scrapped/retconned in the most insulting way possible. tl;dr you're not wrong for feeling the way you do, and i hope you enjoy dottore unburdened by genshit.

No. 466220

>>466217
Thank you nonna! Make 3d models and try to get into programming, I started off with Minecraft mods and moved on to Sims. I was working on a webttore mod for sucrose, since I kind of saw her as his daughter lol. But Genshin doesn't deserve even the worst fanfic from a Dottore fan. Fatui fans give so much just to be spat on by everyone in the fandom. The devs, the yuritroons, other harbinger fans, artists. I'm sick of giving hoyo free advertising with my hard work and love, when its clear they hate me. It's practically a meme when people on message boards say they'll totally make their own, better product, but if there's any others who feel cheated, I think this thread or another is perfect to share our fanworks or other projects where they'll be appreciated. Theres even a Dottore otome game on itch.io, but its sadly not romance focused. My first project shall be slutya, she really did win in the end…

No. 466328

>>466166
Seeing this as a ship is getting schizo like the incels. If anything shafted Childe it was his entire plot in Fontaine. Childe fans have to be the biggest sufferers of Hyv Stockholm Syndrome with how they think he's going to be allowed to be so important. They already made Skirk disrespect him while she acknowledged traveler. They can't have a waifu respect him without shitting on him for the traveler. They shit on him in every region but Childe fans are so delusional thinking this is a sign for future growth and that he's an underdog and not that they don't want anyone to outshine the self-insert protagonist. They're so easily settled by merch and pictures that they'll never see the writing on the wall. When Skirk shits on him they'll be gaslit by people telling them that it's misogyny if they don't like her.

No. 466436

How many of you guys watch tectone? I started watching him last year because I was interested in the hater side of the genshin community and I kept hearing about how he was basically Satan. While he is a coomer moid, he actually manages to use his brain half of the time. He even points out how Hoyo is shilling worse and worse waifus for money.

No. 466438

>>466436
>Watching moids
Other than that he always makes clickbaity sensationalist content, a good channel doesn't need clickbait if its videos are good, which tectone isn't

No. 466439

>>466438
All gacha creators are either pick me’s with huge titty vtuber models or a stupid high voice they insist is real, or an ugly coomer moid with degeneracy from 1-10. Tectone is a solid 8.

No. 466442

>>466436
My favourite tectone videos are his tax fails, gambling addiction and his wife cheating on him.

No. 466445

>>466442
I think he has a new gf cause I saw a woman in his house on another stream.

No. 466448

>>466436
Tectone is a typical moid who hates women. Hating Genshin doesn't make him not a typical degenerate gooner.

No. 466498

>>466445
I’ve had to look on drama channels and apparently his ex wife didn’t cheat on him. He allegedly made his ex wife sign an NDA and abused his rebound gf. They’ve called him a liar.

No. 466572

>Wrio paired with Furina to make his numbers look bad
I hate this

No. 466616

>>465901
>>466117
agreed with second nonna, and adding that all the original plans for harbinger women would've probably been appreciated (or at least respected). as things stand though, beidou and ningguang seem fairly well-liked from what i've seen.
>>466220
i'm a bit too paranoid to post any of my works on here, but i'll be rooting for you if you ever post yours ♥ your vision of dottore definitely sounds much more interesting than whatever woobification or flanderization the nu-team could ever come up with. i'll be sure to keep an eye out for slutya projects in the wild too kek, i have to admit a shitty satirical genshin vn/game would be pretty funny.
>>466436
his voice and general demeanor both have something uniquely grating about them, probably the fact that he seems skeevy even by subpar moid standards. i understand enjoying genshin bashing, but just about any other critic feels more bearable than him.

No. 466620

>>466208
Dottore was never that deep and you said you're a yume who mostly likes him because of your fixation. It's the most basic female sexuality to be into rapey men, but in that case why were you ever expecting that from Genshin? Play otome because that's the game that caters exactly to that instead of being upset fanfiction didn't come true. Not everyone plays Genshin to date characters.

No. 466625

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>>466620
He is not rapey! If anything, he doesn’t like romance or sex, he killed a girl who had a crush on him because she made him uncomfortable and presumably felt cornered by his upperclassman. And even before then she describes him to be standoffish, completely uninterested in her. I have my own personal fanfiction, fine, I admit it, but I never wanted it to come true! I want him to be the character his extensive lore pointed towards! He has the most lore for a non playable character, is given dedicated animations, areas in the actual game, multiple in game quests all for him! I’m not mad that Dottore isn’t fucking lumine on screen, I’m mad hes not on the screen at all, and when he will be, theres a large chance he’ll be ruined. But I do agree, It was naive to expect a complex character from fucking Hoyo of all places, I’ll take the hit on that. But I was optimistic and assured by the quality of Scaramouche’s story, and the archon quest. Now I’m just regretful.

No. 466626

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And then I lost my 50/50 to Qiqi. Oh well, at least I got him C0! For now.

No. 466629

>>466625
The Scaramouche quest made it clear he was the fall guy to get Scaramouche playable, and Arlecchino sealed the deal. This is why I was so annoyed when people were begging for Arlecchino to be playable when they rumored she'd be killed off, I knew she would get watered down if she had to be playable. Unfortunately himejoshi don't like evil women so they're happy she's this defanged because it means Arlefuri can be fluffy yuri. As if every yuri ship isn't already like this.

But yes. You can hype up a character for being evil or you can have a playable but you won't ever get both. I will blame Honkeks for making people think they make evil playables, because the only "evil" playables in that game aren't even that evil and the true villains are the men who of course are not playable.

No. 466631

Should I log back in just to get Mika? I really needed/wanted him back when I was playing daily

No. 466634

>>466629
I should’ve been tipped off when Signora died… Since she was rude to moids, hated the traveler, was arrogant AND already had a husband, theres no way she’d live. Scaramouche is little more than a bratty child and he was considered the worst by incels. Imagine if they released an attractive arrogant tall male character? Who’s evil? They’d hack into servers just to leak the IP and credit card info of everyone who owns him.

No. 466635

>>466631
Hes alright if you have many cryo characters, but I have him and don’t use him. Kinda cute, he reminds me of a baby chick.

No. 466636

>>466436
He's a ragebaiting retard. Stop wasting your time watching this fat scrote.

No. 466637

>>466634
Scaramouche's writing is pretty bad only because it's a sign of the usual stale Hyv tricks. Erase him from people's memories so there's no conflict anymore. Have him say he wants to atone but then skip to him being in a festival with everyone else and treated like he did nothing wrong. Go full on pitybait and make Dottore responsible for his crimes. Compare this to Signora dying and I see why people would be bitter about it, even though incels hate him for the wrong reasons. I can even believe they wanted controversy with him to incite a gender war because of how he became playable.

No. 466652

>>466637
I watched many videos on the Asian gender war. Are there no people who want a neutral game? Normal people dont goon 24/7! Why do men in Asia need every single character to be a prostitute with a “””””deep””””” story. I hate NIKKE for this exact reason.

No. 466709

>>466652
Normal people don't play this game, anon.

No. 466723

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I want to roll for Wriothesely out of principle (when are we ever going to get another 5* male cryo? Never) but he’s so damn ugly (botched model, ugly neck scar, weird skin texture) and his playstyle is too boring for me. Sorry nonas, I must betray you all and roll for Furina instead.

No. 466744

I rolled for Wriothesely and lost to Diluc, then got him early. Then I said fuck it and rolled for Furina and got the new wish animation and got her, then I said fuck it and rolled for a weapon now I had both characters and I got Wriothesely's weapon in my 20 pull. I spend 140 f2p pulls. I also c6 my charlotte which im happy about. This is the luckiest I've ever been in genshin.

No. 466769

>>466723
Samefagging to let you all know that I lost to Diluc… serves my ass right.

No. 466772

>>466769
Revenge of the moids!

No. 466830

>>466631
>mika in 20
>c1 tighnari also
Actually great. I'll save that guarantee for a Wanderer rerun.

No. 466868

>>466652
Normal people DID play the game. It's why the incels had to launch their own gamgergate campaign to try and "take back" gacha. It's why the idiotic "gacha feminists" on twitter are such useful idiots for incels, because they can think that more female characters means more feminist.

Genshin DID have a normie audience and now they want to piss it away to appeal to ML incels. It's now confirmed that they don't care for their old players at all.

But sunk cost runs deep and the company knows this. I heard more female players in China have caught on and are boycotting Hyv, but people in the West don't understand the gender war or they're not savvy about how gacha works which is why they think that if you think Varesa's butt animations are goonerbait then YOU'RE the misogynist. How can you even reason with people like that?

No. 466870

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C6ed him, now I can go back to ignoring banners until a 5* male shows up.

No. 466873

>>466870
Based. I’m on 50/50 so I’m just not pulling until they release a naked male character. A pity male isnt enough, he should be Nu:Carnival level slutty.

No. 466874

>>466868
Yeah during the height of Genshin's popularity I knew many people who didn't normally play gacha or JRPGs pick it up and enjoy it because it was the most "normal" of all gacha games, an action RPG with sensible designs that didn't have the coomery dialed up to 1000 nor uncomfortably sexy loli waifus. They even toned down the boob jiggle mechanics in the beginning because people complained. That's why you have so many westerners unaware of the gender wars in China raising an eyebrow at the game suddenly introducing shit like Varesa and making Mavuika a sexy biker chick when the game was known for the extensive amounts of cultural references they put into their designs of each region and treating their archons as dignified gods.

No. 466876

>>466868
The worst thing they can do for sunk costs is to devalue wasted money. If you buy a ticket for let’s say a racist singer and you can’t back out, some may still go just to get their moneys worth. But if they hear the concert is worse and they intend to extract more money from you, they won’t show up at all regardless of what they spent on the ticket.

When they reveal that night soul is completely fucking worthless in Sneznaya, and they are introducing some new mechanic that only Sneznayan characters have, people will call the game p2w and even more normies leave in droves. Western audiences dislike two things, egregious fanservice, micro transactions. The more they feel the game is just like “paying for porn”, they will flee to not be seen as creepy degenerate males. Other countries dont have the same shame. Once 50% have fled, mainly Americans, they will only double down on their scum. I can’t wait for the 7th nation to crash and burn!

No. 466986

>>466874
It's why it's very hard to get Western fandom to realize the lack of males isn't a feminist win. They don't realize the fanservice has gotten worse. We always had fanservice but it was never this blatant and so consistent with every female character. You would even think the lack of any yuri ships in Natlan would be a hint, that they fully want to pander to incels so the traveler must be the most important. But no, instead if someone points out that Citlali is waifubait and they only show Aether in the promos for a reason, they get called a misogynist and they're the ones "reducing" her to waifubait, not Mhy.

>>466876
I'd say they'd have to really fuck up some male character's story for fans to possibly get it, but then they'd be bullied by the Genshin feminists and called misogynists for wanting guys to be important even though they told us some of them would be. It's the scummiest part of the sunk cost for me. It's not just about leveling characters, it's that they gatekept the lore and true understanding of some characters for so long that many people can't quit. Venti has been teased since forever. Childe has been teased since forever, with only bits being dripfed, though given how his fans believe his treatment in Fontaine is part of the long game and not Mhy showing their true colors, I doubt they would ever wake up. We have Kaeya's connections with Khaenriah, watch that get dropped too. Albedo already got shafted for Wanderer, who himself could also get shafted. Dainsleif was already announced playable so they can't back out with him but watch them find some way to shaft him too.

No. 467093

>>466876
Yeah there's no walking back from that Nightsoul bullshit and it's absolutely going to be repeated in Snezhnaya too. Once they got the ultimate p2w mechanic, the region-locked traits, into the game, it's over. Characters have turned from reoccurring friends to one-use gimmicks you forget about the moment the next version releases because who the fuck gives a shit about the Natlan characters besides their traveling capacities. Once Natlan has been 100%'d, you will never take them out again and you'll end up repeating the same shit in Snezhnaya.

No. 467107

>>467093
Oh god.. this means if they do continue this trend then Snez is gonna have stupid ugly animals to sell merch of like the saurians. Or even worse, the f2p players must use machinery, and the fatui get giant mech robots and tanks.

No. 467165

>>467107
Snez is 100% going to have a mascot race just like the Aranaras, Melusines and saurians. I bet they're going to tone down the greendarkness out of it too because chinese incel's waifus can't be too evil or else they're absolute bitches that not even their cocks can fix.

No. 467174

>>467165
Anyone still coping that Snezhnaya will be dark or the Tsaritsa will actually be morally gray is deluded. That should have been obvious way back in Inazuma with how they handled Ei. Ei should have been the wake-up call, but instead people defended her dogshit writing and said "you can't handle morally gray women!!" until they gaslit people into thinking her character is good.

The Tsaritsa's not going to be evil or they'll find some twin bullshit to make the playable one the less bad on. She's going to be healed by the traveler. The male harbingers will die or be made into jokes like Childe, with his fans still coping that he'll get his big badass moment in Khaenriah so keep playing the games guys, let HYV cook!! No one will learn a damn thing even though Raiden Ei, the killing off of Signora, and not letting Arlecchino be an antagonist in Fontaine and pulling a previous Knave out of their assholes should have been a sign that there will never be an evil woman playable in this game. And then there's still people hoping for evil and creep Columbina and Sandrone.

No. 467176

>>467107
>>467165
I'm fucking sick of these ugly mascots so they can sell shitty merch. Do retards actually buy them?

No. 467177

>>467176
I don’t know a single person who likes saurians or even Aranaras but I know some non pedophiles that like melusines. So unless they make little Russian bear children run around, nobody is buying the merch.

No. 467182

>>467177
Melusines were full on furry lolibait and the saurians are just ugly pokemon knockoffs, but aranaras were genuinely cute and had interesting lore. They were pretty popular during Sumeru.

No. 467186

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>>465284
I think Natlan (and by and large Genshin) is suffering a "death from thousand papercuts." Weird racebending, lack of male characters, the whole VA situation, sloppy rewrites, bad character design, Ryan Johnson style subversion of expectations (people expected war and dragons and got "friendship is magic"), unnecessary gimmicks set up to show how "special" Natlan is that serve no purpose and eat up screen-time that could instead be spent getting to know characters and setting up conflicts, Mavuika being way too perfect with no flaws or a character arc, modern technology that doesn't match the world of Genshin (Natlan in particular), blatant and fanservice, shameless power-creep… Just one or two of those things may have been tolerable but all this crap together is unbearable. Oh and I haven't yet mentioned worst of all: bunch of filler content we'll have to suffer though. Up until these point we had linear progression. But Natlan felt like a whole nothing-burger. We aren't going to Snezhnaya after this, the pyro gnosis is still in Natlan, so everyone brace yourselves for Natlan 2.0… Honestly if it weren't for the gameplay and past characters and stories that I have an emotional connection with I would have dropped this game after all this BS. If it wasn't for this year's lantern rite I would've thought Genshin team lost their ability to write stories.

No. 467189

>>467177
The Aranara were some of the best parts of Sumeru, what are you on about no one likes them

No. 467195

>>467189
The aranara quest was universally hated. Everyone was moaning endlessly about how much they wanted the vegetables to just die already.

No. 467213

Based on theories they might make Childe into a girl? If they do this I hope some yume stabs Dawei.

No. 467214

>>467213
Wait, what theories? They possibly couldn't do this, they'd kill their only yume cash cow they keep milking from year to year.

No. 467215

>>467214
After Firefly you can't put anything past Mhy. There's even rumors that if they do bring Capitano back and make him playable, it would be as a female character.

From what I can gather, the Childe theories relate to some leaked artifact lore about him being the third descender who's a woman trapped in a male form. It sounds like something Mhy would do to incite gender wars and just enough for troons to claim him.

No. 467221

>>467215
Holy shit killing Childe off and making him into a female character would be absolutely brutal. Mihoyo would lose all of the Chinese female player money.

No. 467225

>>467215
>troons claiming harbingers
>again
god i sure hope not. scara, arle, and sandrone all have to deal with enough retardation as it is. cant they go bother shitty coombait chars like varesa instead?

No. 467226

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>Killing off playables
I don't think that's happening any time sooner lul
adding one of his sisters as playable is more plausible though

No. 467230

>>467221
They already lost most of them and hate female players. Don't think them pimping out some guys on official merch means they didn't already screw female players.

>>467225
Don't worry, they'll claim Sandrone because Mhy will do some fuckshit like claiming the evil side is Alain but you'll get good Mary-Ann as playable and she'll be grateful to Aether for freeing her from her brother. Varesa has troon colors so they'll claim her too and say you're a bigot if you think she looks ugly. All they need is to latch onto one line.

No. 467250

>>467195
No it wasn't. The only thing I saw people complain about was that it was too long, and that's because they were trying to do the whole damn thing in one go.

No. 467258

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My hatred for this ugly twink only increases day by day and is rapidly spurred on every time I see the most sub 50 iq harem/waifu content of him. I am baffled at how any male willingly self-inserts into this thing for sexual fulfillment, especially considering the plethora of more appealing/masculine men in the cast, let alone even manages to look at it. I feel like I'm going insane every time I see somebody, male or female, calling him cute or handsome or whatnot. I know I'm generally nitpicky and could hate on plenty of well loved genshin male designs but surely I'm not alone here? I just need to let off some steam kek
>>467226
Beautiful image anon

No. 467259

>>467215
I heard rumors that he was originally designed to be a female character back when he was supposedly going to be a permanent traveling companion with the player, but I can't see how they would do this. Would they update his model and animations or add a new character completely? I think his little sister getting added and somehow overtaking his role in the story is more likely, or they'll just have Skirk replace him.

No. 467264

>>467215
There's no way they would do that, they rely on stockholm syndrom childefags to buy their worthless physical merch

No. 467266

>>467258
Aether is so fucking ugly

No. 467309

>>467259
The theories are that he's the third descender who was originally a woman. Either they split the characters somehow or they change him into a woman. They would take advantage of female players buying merch >>467264 and then fuck them over later after years of getting their money. There's no way they would let a man be important to the story so I can see them doing some shit like this to spite female players. It would be stupid but you know the troon himejoshi would defend it.

No. 467336

>>467258
I feel a primal rage whenever one of my husbandos are shipped with this ugly faggot. I would genuinely rather ship Haikaveh than ever even suggest Aether would look good with any character. I hate him. I despise his female fans the most. He’s UGLY.

No. 467383

>>467258
He looked like such a scrote in the bath art hoyo posted and he always gives off subhuman energy in the harem/gary-stu fanart. He was cute once but became every moid who self-inserted into him.

No. 467389

Does anyone just wish the game would end now so you could lose your attachment to your favorites? Every theory only makes me angry now because I know all writing choices will be influenced by the incel audience. If the game has to flop, I want it to fully flop. No more theorists coping or people arguing that it's deep and meaningful. No more people trying to argue that their incel pandering is actually respect for women. To think I actually tried Genshin because it felt like one of the few omnipandering gachas where women wouldn't get screwed and your favorite guys wouldn't be shafted as they often are in most other games I played. For a moment they didn't seem to hate that there were guys who were popular with women, but now that's over.

No. 467472

>>467174
The only reason I’m still keeping up with this fandom is because of Snezhnaya but if it’s going to just be more waifubait-land then it might be owari da…
I wasted $400 on this game for what

No. 467475

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>>467258
Might be an unpopular opinion but I have always had a thing for jrpg protags that show their tummy, like Haseo and Luke so I like Aether's design. He is probably the only gacha male protag who has a slightly refreshing design. But yes, at the end of the day, he is just a self-insert for moids, so Aether hate is absolutely justified and based.

No. 467498

>>467389
I desperately await the games death but Hoyo is slower and lazier than mojang. Just drop the slutya update so I can rage and delete the game. Kill all my favorite characters so I can ignore you forever. Start with Kaeya and Dainslef.

No. 467504

>>467336
A nonna of good taste. I commend you and agree with you. Aether should stick with his demented waifus and stay far, far away from the male characters.

No. 467531

>>467258
His tummy and little braid are cute
It's the moids self inserting that "ruined" him because that shit carried over in the game with the Mizuki and Natlan AQ

No. 467535

>>467258
I love Aether because he's cute and I shipped him with almost every male character in the game but the way they made him into a moid self insert in Natlan and the recent Inazuma event ruined him for me and was the final reason that made me quit Genshin kek

No. 467583

>>467258
Based. I hate this ugly faggot, not only because scrotes use him for their harem fantasy but also the way retards ship Aether with the boys instead of shipping the boys with each other. This worthless turd isnt a character no matter how much TIFs want him to be.

No. 467623

>>467258
I just hate the traveler in general. I don't even care for Lumine or the male harem yumes build with her, I hate self-insert bland characters and seeing interesting characters warped into the same two stale archetypes just to fit self-insert fantasies. I wish gacha games could get rid of them. It's not a surprise the most interesting Genshin characters aren't master love ones and who have other things going on besides the traveler.

No. 467624

>>467583
Thank you! He isn’t a character and I hate it when people try and make him some big martyr. We can just go to the abyss, nobody is stopping him. According to Childe and Scaramouche, there are just holes in the abyss all over Snezhnaya! If he really wanted to do his one goal of finding his sister, he would just do that instead of having bath dates with dictators and playing stupid mini games with people he's an asshole to (Unless you’re a waifu. Remember when he yelled at Lyney for being a child soldier grooming victim, and then we glaze his groomer, but we are meant to sob for Furina who’s been a jobless aristocrat for 500 years, and Arlechinno the slave driver. We cry for Mauvika and have a dance party on Capitano’s corpse, cultural appropriation headband and all.) The only people who desperately claim the traveler not only has a personality but is also getting sick of being the hero are those who want to constantly play the victim for things that nobody forced them to do. Like self proclaimed “therapist friends” and moms. And the funniest part is that they are projecting when they do it! Almost as if Aether is a self insert who you project onto… The truth is that the traveler is a wooden doll for Incels to mash against a waifu when they get bored of large black men, ugly bastards and grey blobs. Because shipping them with a male character who is attractive and they have chemistry with is cucking but somehow everything else isn’t. I hate Aether. I would replace him with Lumine but then we have to defeat Yuritroons, an arguably worse beast than Incels and deranged fujos combined.

No. 467625

Her awful design aside, I know I won't like Skirk because she'll be another female character only liked because she can abuse a male character. Just like how much Eimiko fans love drawing Ei and Yae abusing Scaramouche, and now Citlali with Ororon. They made it so no one can hate seeing their favorite guy bashed because then it's misogyny and you hate morally grey complex women, even though they present it as something good. Childe will be bashed by Skirk while she glazes the traveler and they'll say he deserves it for being bad, while this game had no problem making everyone love Ei and Arlecchino.

No. 467628

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>>467625
That’s why I never shut up about my husbandos power level, I don’t care if they call me a misogynist, I got into powerscaling just to defend my husbando. Humble your local EiMiko fan today.

No. 467630

>>467624
People want the traveler to be this complete hero but then also the twin stans lie and say they're not a self-insert whenever anyone criticizes the protagonist centric morality. The traveler can wipe out a whole village in Sumeru and the same men who cry about Scaramouche being "Hitler" will say it was based and justified of the traveler to do that.
The traveler is poorly written and reflects the double standards of the writers. They don't really want Arlecchino to be a groomer and the traveler doesn't hate her for what she did to Furina, in fact no one does.
Judging by your comment I'm guessing you think yumes are a lesser evil but I dislike the Lumine yumes and the way all males become rape apes. The traveler just sucks no matter who they are because it's the writing and the protagonist centric morality that's the problem. When not one playable can even dislike the traveler without being a villain, there's no saving them as a mc. Too many gamers only want to be coddled and they'll threaten the devs if their needs aren't met.

No. 467631

>>467628
The problem is power levels don't matter when they love to make the men look weak and stupid and then call people misogynists if they don't like it. Just like they call people misogynists for expecting Capitano, the first harbinger, to actually put up more of a fight. They'll see incels who need male antagonists humbled (because they feel threatened) by a waifu and think it's girlboss feminism.

No. 467640

>>467213
>>467214
I'm not even a yume but changing a male character into a female one after they've been playable for years has to be some type of false advertising. At least with Sam they never made "him" playable and made Firefly playable when we knew she was Sam. It would be beyond scummy to suddenly change a character like this.

I don't know why its always women who can't have a male character and who have to accept troon shit. Nobody tells the moids to accept their waifus being turned into men, but joseimuke games have to introduce a troon character who's actually a woman, not a pretty male, and we have to shut up about it.

No. 467641

>>467631
I knew Capitano was going to get dog walked by Mauvika, I just didn’t want to accept it. The best way to defeat these people is to never relent. Even if it sounds like cope, you must defend your favs with your life. Childe fans should be as militant as they used to be. Now they just accept the disrespect.

No. 467643

Even TikTok users are catching on! Just look at the comments.

No. 468150

I went to actually check out the models for the newer games and it’s so much better looking than Genshin. What gives? Why are all Genshin characters ugly munchkins compared to models made by the same company? I know the body types are to save costs on animations, but they can’t make the models any better? Diluc, Albedo, Itto, Jean. All busted and ugly. Why not scale up any old models and animations?

No. 468182

>>468150
Two words
>Mobile adaptation
>The engine's getting old and outdated
Compared to HI3 it's still better, but unlike ZZZ, they refuse to revamp the engine to make the models better. We'll be forever stuck with noodle-arm Itto, I'm afraid.

Also kek, the jiggle physics in there.

No. 468247

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i didnt think i had it in me to be surprised by mhy anymore, but what the actual fuck is this? i was always told that genshit couldnt add limited five-stars to the standard banner because of legal reasons relating to gambling, and yet here comes honkaishit doing just that. meanwhile we're struck with the chronicled wish scam. i cant believe this shit. they really hate this game.

No. 468257

>>468247
In a previous post where I dramatically spoke about how I quit genshin, it’s all on purpose. The want to put HSR, GSI and ZZZ against each other, each getting new events and QOL while Genshin jerks off in a corner. It’s like coke being ass so you move on to sprite, because they keep improving sprite, even though coke still gets money. You’re tricked into thinking you’re winning by switching to the new and shiny game. I often ask myself, why must they make every new QOL annoying? They could make things like sanctifying elixir and encounter points much more straight forward. But they know they don’t have to, and will simply give the proper QOL to the next game. They only want to raise the bar within the company’s already narrow standards. See how ZZZ was forced to fix their weapon banner because WW got rid of 50:50 entirely? The only way Hoyo will fix their nonsense is in the latest games, AFTER being threatened by another company. Even if WW outsells Genshin 10:1, they wouldn’t even add a resin reservoir. Genshin is a relic they can’t get rid of, only ruin so that it dies faster. They are purposely trying to make you pissed/quit so you go try out HSR/ZZZ/ “Hoyo-live”. Listen to them, and quit the game!

No. 468411

>>468247
Did HSR fans even complain? Because it's basically Hoyoverse telling them to go fuck themselves for wasting so much on characters from 2 years ago. I also heard reruns didn't do well in that game. Meanwhile, Wrio and Furi both outsold onsen whore in Genshin.

>>468257
At that point we just need a proper mixed gacha game or another non-LADS husbando game to put the final nail in Genshin's coffin.

No. 468413

>>468411
Nobody cares about HSR reruns because everyone is power crept after 2 hours.

No. 468500

>>468411
I saw a claim that Mizuki outsold Mavuika which is insane if true because Mizuki's banner revenue was embarrassingly low. Genshin hit big profits during January when Mavuika's banner was running, but it was at the same time Citlali's was so it was two new limited units combined.

>>468413
This. It's useless to pull based on meta on HSR because every single unit gets a powercreep two patches later. The combat is easy as fuck anyway and you can run through bosses with autoplay unless you're a NEET completionist so there's no point in trying to chase those damage per screenshot numbers.

No. 468613

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If there was one rewrite to the plot you could make, what would it be? I would minimize the traveler completely. There should be character interaction independent of camera-with-sword-kun.

No. 468629

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>>468613
this might be too vast, but doing the harbingers justice. fully return to their og personalities as detailed in the excel leaks, and follow all the old writing team's plans for them (while guaranteeing playability for everyone). if we really have to narrow it down further, then i think my number one choice of harbinger to save from the nu-team's bullshit rewrites is obvious kek. but id really like for all of them to be treated well.

No. 468666

>>467641
Childe fans are massively beaten down due to years of Hoyo bullshit and for daring to be into his lore because fandoms have the attention spans of fish and Genshin is slow as molasses. They'll be forced to accept Skirk treating him like garbage and calling this feminism because being attracted to men is misogyny, even if it's a fictiona man.

No. 468668

>>468257
The problem here is they learn the wrong lessons from Wuwa and think it means they should pander only to incels who want ML. They want people to get into their new games but also can't finish the story in Genshin and need to prolong Snezhnaya even more for reasons I can't understand.

>>468411
>
At that point we just need a proper mixed gacha game or another non-LADS husbando game to put the final nail in Genshin's coffin.
This will never happen thanks to Snowbreak and the gender war that it started. I hate when people use LADS as an example because it's an otome game, it's a different genre, it's not relevant when people talk about adding more men into gachas that aren't dating Sims and are anime based story games. Japan can make mixed gacha games without this drama, but they're so bad at handling and marketing these games that they all go EOS rather quickly unless it's like FGO. Look how they fumbled Tribe Nine.

No. 468670

>>468668
The gender war has completely doomed the writing and operation for all future gacha games, as all high budget gacha will just follow genshin’s footsteps incessantly because the industry cannot improve as it is 80% moid and 10% pickme. If Genshin takes a position, so will they. That’s why Brant is gonna be the only male for the next 6 years in WuWa, no matter how good his banner is. Genshin makes 100m by shirking men and killing off the most anticipated male character aside from Varka or Dottore, and people still praise the terrible Natlan story and whore characters.

No. 468788

>>468668
>Japan can make mixed gacha games without this drama, but they're so bad at handling and marketing these games that they all go EOS rather quickly unless it's like FGO. Look how they fumbled Tribe Nine.
Yep, exactly. Japan is much less restricted by the gender wars but they constantly fumble their games by using outdated game design, try to chase trends 4 years too late, generate no hype around their properties (compared to the huge amount of collabs Genshin launched during its first year), ignore international marketing entirely and drag their feet localizing anything because boo hoo foreign stuff hard and scary so they fail and fade into obscurity. I'm guessing it's because of the massive Chinese diaspora that people in their country have better overseas connections but I don't know. They're busy fumbling their own games though too because mainstream westerners simply don't like hentai waifu games, that's why HI3 never became popular here.

No. 468792

>>468668
>japan is better at handling mixed gacha games
>muh gender wars
Fucking kek. The only thing they are "better" at is not milking female audience and giving them false hope. Japanese mixed games are even more unfair (which is why joseimukes are so popular), you are just fooled by the fact that they don't mind giving men horny designs sometimes (while sexualising 99% of female characters).

No. 468808

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Genshin just released loreshit and lorefags took the bait. They never really learn from disappointment. Worse even, they're bringing back the Capitano copium.

No. 468826

>>468808
how can someone take the lore seriously after the mess that Natlan was? the devs showed that they clearly don't give a fuck about worldbuilding, why should people do when it's just going to be promo for new waifu with extra honkai fuckery

No. 468835

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>>468808
I can't take this seriously anymore. What is this the hype-train for? Let me wager a guess, we will get not one, not two, but three slutted up porn OCs - each having the hobby repertoire of five others but the personality of none - for each of the moons who will be hapless waifus to jiggle around a completely shallow, retconned plot. Hoyo will fire off all the tropes in the world in the most uninspired way possible, none of it will make sense, not even if Ashikai tries to overclock her brains over it on youtube, but the background music will be bearable and the animators will work 72-hour shifts without a moment of sleep to make it look passable. All the gooners will applaud it with a standing ovation. Some chinafags will boycott hoyo because not enough "loli"s getting porned up, but it will be swept under the rug. I don't expect a lick less embarrassing than this scenario.

No. 468836

>>468808
I literally don't get it, what is meant to be connected here?? Are they just making up new lore to connect?

No. 468837

>>468836
whatever takes out all the "interesting" from this story is being connected in there

No. 468838

>>468835
Oh, oh! One last thing to check off, if you want any of the moons to be male, you get called a raging misogynist because the moons also symbolize divine womb menstrual femininity earth ocean Celestia 'n sheeeiiit! Even though the sun is also female, and so is the sky.

No. 468839

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>>468826
Imagine being this delusional and thinking Dottore will do something else than be evil and die.
>>468835
The only thing I'm looking forward is how it coànnects to Paimon. But since it's way too fucking early, we will only have crumbs that will end up being not important or retconned because some incel complained about male character having more than 2s of screentime.

No. 468840

>>468839
huffs copium When they're low on revenue they'll release Dottore and Capitano together as a meta healer support that power creeps Xilonen, and Capitano makes cryo physical DPS cool again.

No. 468841

>>468840
maybe in one quintillion years kek, these scrotes would rather go bankrupt than make female players happy, see the whole natlan fiasco

No. 468842

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>>468838
Yes, yes, PRECISELY, everything symbolizes the divine feminine, the holy mother, the fierce crone, the fifth dimension folding into the eternal and harmonious low vibrations of the in-between realm of the spiritworld, but only, and I said ONLY as long as they're also self-humiliating strippers who make my microdee hard.

No. 468843

>>468841
Dottore will be the first hydro claymore 5star, and he uses hp manipulation by stealing and redistributing hp, and is basically a buff funnel. Capitano makes superconduct usefully for when Foul legacy Childe comes out. Capitano and Dottore will dethrone Neuv and Furina! I swear! (I'll stop my fanfiction.)

No. 468859

>People talking about Childe being a girl again
I'd rather him not be important at all than have them do this. It would be beyond scum for them to advertise him as a male character for years and put out art of him to keep female players around to suddenly say he's a girl and a completely different character all along. But of course people will be called misogynists if they don't want this. You don't see men being told their waifus should turn into secret male characters.

No. 468861

>>468843
They will also change the models and make Itto buff, Diluc will get cured from his Down's Syndrome and Albedo will be important for the Lore again. Let's not forget that Dainself will be a playable as a hydro sword that will be support for Kaeya that will get a buff and a nice new abyss outfit.
Varka will be a buff guy that will have an interesting rivalry with Capitano and there's going to be a cool trailer in which he personally fights against him outside Mondstadt while venti is hurt on the floor and with the help of Noelle who will look cool as fuck while fighting because she's more than a meido now.

No. 468865

>>468861
Nonnie…… this is making my heart ache because this would've been a plausible outcome in 1.x but it's just a joke.

No. 468866

>>468861
They will fix Diluc, Itto and Albedo when Genshin 2 comes out in 2036, because model updates are really hard! But the waifus get entirely new models to compensate for the extra boob and butt ofc.

No. 468867

>>468859
caps? I genuinely haven't seen any of this theorizing or found any when I've searched for it, but I'm curious.

No. 468868

I stopped playing this game because my phone could no longer handle the amount of storage is required for the updates kek. I liked the fighting aspect, that’s it. Story was meh and Childe will always be my favorite

No. 468869

>>468835
>none of it will make sense, not even if Ashikai tries to overclock her brains over it on youtube
KEKKKK. i sometimes wonder exactly how much lore will have to be retconned and shat on for these big lorefags to get the memo already, though i also wouldnt put it past those retards to know exactly what theyre doing either. theyre just taking advantage of people's hopes for money/clout and actively deluding fans into thinking there will be a worthwhile payoff and that there are no retcons in ba sing se, exactly like mhy does.

No. 468875

>>468808
People will keep falling for this shit because Genshin is good at making you think something will happen and as long as they make a surface level reference to Utena that's enough for people to call it peak. Remember these people think that Honkai Impact is feminist because it has yuri.

No. 468880

>>468835
It's all just to make Honkai again and people who like eating the same shit from Mhy over and over will praise it and call this feminism.

No. 468881

why are they so obsessed with honkai anyways? you'd think by now that they learned pretty much nobody but basement dwelling moids likes scifi waifuslop when genshin went popular with a fantasy aesthetic

No. 468882

>>468881
Because it's Dawei's baby and he needs everyone to love his waifus.

No. 468883

>>468881
Dawei is a mentally stunted manchild who never grew past the ocdonutsteels and shitty fanfics he wrote as a social reject

No. 468885

>>468875
I actually don't think Hoyoverse is good at anything except making wonderful promises. They promise updates, a good game, change, finished characters, racial representation (well they never promised that), and high expectations, longterm support. They can make a hundred promises and fill none of them easily, the company is so big at this point, people will just lie to themselves. They promise you a villian, give you an edgy hero, and people will just make up stories of her villiany.

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>>468880
truth be told, scrotes will call everything from photosynthesis to the kitchen sink "feminism" except for actual feminism, so this checks out.

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>>468859
Childe schizo theories are fun to read and laugh at, but I very seriously doubt they can do something like that with a playable character. I have not played Genshin in almost two years, but I remember there was a time when a semi-popular theory claimed that Childe and the Tsaritsa were lovers in previous samsara cycles, based on the description of Ballad of the Fjords and the Pale Princess fairytale. Childefags are some of the most delusional people because they keep trying to connect him with Phanes and the Third Descender and Jesus, and other things. Just today, I saw them trying to find connections between Childe and the Moon Sisters kek.

>>468808
I don't understand how anyone can feel excited for the "lore" in Genshin. The game does not have any stakes whatsoever, and every other key player is the most generic, half-naked Mary Sue waifu. Since Paimon is being speculated to be the new moon, I suppose she will get a new form where she is dressed like a hooker.

No. 468888

>>468881
Imagine if Hazbin hotel was made by an incel moid. So instead of obsessing over yaoi ships and Tumblr sexymen for 15 years, they obsess over ugly anime girls and Yuri ships for 15 years. Even if the whole world says its ass, they won't relent.

No. 468889

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>>468867
Search Childe and third descender and you'll see it.

No. 468891

>>468887
Does that /71 indicate that there are 71 pages of this? Are Childe fans this delusional?! And I thought Capitano coping was drug fueled…

No. 468893

>>468887
I understand why Childe theories are so schizo because imagine being edged for five years about a character's basic lore. We know nothing about his time in the Abyss or his Vision story and Mhy withholds it on purpose. He's the best example of how annoying Genshin storytelling is. They don't provide any answers, just more questions, but they don't do this because it's good storytelling like Mhy glazers think. They do it because it creates sunk cost and keeps players from leaving. Although if they hate female players so much I don't know why they do this beyond sadism and contempt.

Childe's part in Fontaine is the Mhy formula. Don't give any answers. Don't let him actually interact with Skirk. Childe's character can't actually go anywhere until Snezhnaya, but instead of criticizing Mhy for it his fans think there's some feast waiting at the end. Making a character who was advertised as male into a woman feels like it must be breaking some consumer law here, but Childe fans are some of the most cucked and will be beaten down by "feminists" into accepting something so stupid.

No. 468894

>>468885
And they have people calling it peak and Arlecchino such a complex character that people can't "handle". But they don't want her to actually do anything. Just say that she's complex but not have to deal with their favorite doing anything actually morally objectionable. She's the safest "morally gray" character there is, only killing rich pedos.

No. 468896

>>468875
> Remember these people think that Honkai Impact is feminist because it has yuri.
Ironically enough, neither Hoyo, nor Kuro celebrated Women's International Day. Weird, according to yuritrannies, these companies were supposed to be feminist for devliering stronk wahmen, yuri and cuntserving.

No. 468897

>>468894
The whole pedo thing enraged me. Child trafficking is only bad when other people do it, but Arle loves all the orphaned vulnerable children she kidnaps, brainwashes, abuses, and then turns into child soldiers that are slaughtered by the dozen. Lore wise, Dottore is arguably kinder, at least he's trying to cure a deadly disease, Arlechinno has zero reason to do this to kids! They wrote a morally reprehensible character but since she must appeal to men first and foremost, she must be bleached of all her evil. So at the last possible second they throw in an evil pedophile sob story. How dare you? It made me despise her and her fans. But you Nonnas changed my mind, and I feel bad for you, she was sabotaged.

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>>468889
Get ready to be called a misogynist if you don't call Childe a she/her.

No. 468899

>>468889
>imagine liking a character and then they completely change. worse than death.
as a harbingerfag, this sounds familiar…

No. 468901

>>468898
This is a total win, you get to eat popcorn watching ftm and mtf Childe fans fight.

No. 468902

>>468896
It's funny none of the Hoyo "feminist" yuri accounts mention that fact at all. If someone brought it up they'd get harassed because Hoyo is just a simple indie company trying to tell us good stories.

>>468897
Then people get angry if you say Arle is abusing children because they like the idea of her caring for them more and Hoyo only leans into that. Her fans don't want her to be doing anything wrong. They want a slightly strict orphanage matron. That's not a morally grey characters but they'll gaslight and act smug like they can handle such a complex woman but when you look at the content of her it's just her caring for kids or being an uwu soft girlfriend to Furina. Nothing that makes her any different than any other woman in this game.

No. 468903

>>468859
>>468898
The thought of HYV gender bending Childe just made me so irate I can feel myself getting a literal headache. Time to close this thread and pretend the game is still in 1.1 era to cope

No. 468905

>>468899
Seriously, CAN they even do this? I know Hoyo hates female players but considering they put Childe on art twice now to keep husbando fans from leaving, that would be beyond scummy to do. It's one thing to change a character from their initial perception before they're playable. We knew Scaramouche would become Wanderer and Arlecchino was already watered down. We knew SAM was Firefly before she was playable. We didn't get SAM playable for years and then they went sike! Actually it's a girl in there! I can't think of any gacha game doing something like this.

>>468901
The last thing we need is for Childe to be hit by troons and become another Arashi from Enstars. This makes absolutely no sense, who wants this? I want to say there's no way they could do this but knowing how Hoyo is I can't dismiss that they would do this for spite. I want to say that it's a delusional troon but Hoyo just might validate it.

No. 468908

>>468903
Notice how you'll never see anyone ask for a female character to turn male but husbando fans have to want their male faves become women. Both yumes and fujos get called "man obsessed" so they should want their husbandos to be women. Just like there's anti fujo Zhongli stans who say he's not really a man so they can spend their time on twitter calling other women whores for liking male characters.

No. 468959

>>468891
Kek yes, that entire thread was trying to establish a connection between Childe and seelies. It is funny because all these theorists still sincerely believe that male characters like Childe, Capitano, and Dottore hold so much plot relevance, while in the actual game they keep getting humiliated and mocked by waifus. Dottore got outsmarted by a retarded toddler. It doesn't get more embarrassing than that.

>>468893
>Childe's part in Fontaine is the Mhy formula. Don't give any answers.
Exactly - everyone was so hyped up for that whale calling to him, but then it turns out it was just a pet. At this point, I just wonder what will happen to Childe in the future. Why would they want to waste time on a male character, especially one that cannot help them generate revenue. Maybe they could give him an alternate form like Dan Heng, but that will never happen in genshit. They will probably replace him with Tonia.

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>>468959
You don’t understand nonna, Dottore merely tricked Nahida into thinking she won. He can make new segments at the drop of a hat and despite him lack of knowledge of Scaramouche the ley lines would have just gifted him new, more profound understanding of how to make segments regardless of Ei’s prototype. So him erasing all of those versions of himself was extremely temporary and with the leaks of extra masks proves that we will see the creation of new segments in Nod Krai. Hes the man that outsmarted the goddess of wisdom herself! The second of the eleven fatui harbingers, a man made god!

No. 468993

>>468897
Now that you mention it, yeah, when you put it that way Dottore was simply trying to cure a deadly disease ravaging the country by putting children through his experiments, not out of sadistic pleasure. Arlecchino had no reason to groom child soldiers by torturing them. I would've accepted and cherished an actually evil Arlecchino but you're not even supposed to see her as a villain like Dottore is framed as, she's just a wooby mommy friend who exists only to strap Furina self inserters.

>>468898
Good fucking lord.

No. 469021

>>468993
And just to embarrass him further, they then had Nahida cure Elezar in the end, because of course! He’s never allowed to win, humiliated, mischaracterized, and ignored. If they hated him so much why not just leave him as a one off villain in the manga? Why must they torture us?

No. 469134

Knowing that incels won and their constant crying of "homo" means the game will be rewritten to make the male characters less important when stupid Hoyo is the one who made some of them important in the first place. I hate this fandom that keeps acting like these choices made for incels are feminist and calls people cock obsessed if they complain.

No. 469140

>>468889
Oh it's this guy who also believes the endgame is Childe being with Ann, the oceanid NPC who's his destined partner.

>>468903
They're already calling people transphobic for not liking this idea because wanting a character to stay the gender the company made them playable as is bad. So many are treating it as true that I want to stab Da Wei and I'm not even a yume.

No. 469150

>>468792
>milking female audience and giving them false hope.
So just like Mhy.

You are right about their games though, the closest non omnipandering game they have is Granblue Fantasy but even that game became a slog. Joseimuke gets no real budget or involves collecting cards and rarely branches out. I wish we could get an anime game that caters to everyone without throwing female players under the bus. Genshin was that and now isn't anymore. I do feel like Japan could be the only place to make a game that could shake things up, but they're so bad at gachas and managing their games that I don't expect much.

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>>468969
So this is all a part of Dottore's 5D chess, galaxy brain strategy. It all makes sense now, I KNEEL.

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>>469150
>BRUH NIGGA SO PEAK
Shonentards never get the memo kek

No. 469272

>>469229
It never occurred to be there would be a sizable amount of male schitzos in the fandom as I've seen only female fans actually like the characters and lore. Well, except for the honkincels. I guess he's just one of them.

No. 469385

>>468898
If this became canon, some chinese yume would try to get the HYV headquarters Kyoani'd

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Lorefags, I have a genuine question. How many questions in the genshin lore have actually been answered? All I see is that they keep adding things on to a mile long lore document with a billion open ends but nothing even has an ending. Has there been a thing they foreshadowed early on and then actually delivered on? There was Scaramouche being related to Raiden, but it was never a super secret theory.

No. 469499

>>468959
This is why I'm paranoid they really will make him a girl. I can't think of anything else they'll do since they won't waste any development on a character they can't sell anymore. They'll keep his fans around with some merch, but nothing good in story. Childe lorefags couldn't accept that he was treated badly in Fontaine. If it wasn't his time to shine then he shouldn't have been there. It was just to generate some hype but they refuse to admit that he wasn't done well there, or that Mhy is under no obligation to actually give him a good story in lore because they only care about sales. They keep thinking that Mhy values this story so much.

>>469385
I wish someone would just to get them to stop pandering to incels so much.

>>469400
Nothing. This keeps being compared to lazzo and look how the hype from that turned out. We got boring harbingers. But people will lap up any slop Mhy gives them, so they think Arlecchino wasn't retconned. How do you reason with people like that?

No. 469501

>>469499
I don’t understand lore obsession especially when they never confirm anything! At least in Gravity falls it was purposeful and they answered some stuff. But here they just paste AI stories into books and artifacts and the lore people go crazy like any of it will matter in the end. Genuine delusion.

No. 469519

This game sucks
>Mizuki: prostitute
>Mavuika: prostitute
>Varesa: prostitute
>Chasca: prostitute
>Xilolen: prostitute
>Citlali: prostitute
>Mualani: prostitute
>Skirk: prostitute
Prostitute impact. I fucking hate this game so much.

No. 469566

>>469519
It’s always been prostitute impact, they just have been allowed to get away with it now. Rosaria had to be censored twice. But at least she was a nobody throwaway 4 star. Now we have to stare at the prostitutes ass all day because those are the only characters.

No. 469569

>>469566
Kek, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this way. Like, I think Fischl and Mona are cool characters to an extent, but they’re both running around in see-through lingerie, even though they’re from 1.x/2.x.

No. 469571

>>469569
I feel like they have a guy specifically for making these characters. Like he made black swan, fischl, Mona, etc. They used to bring him out once in a while, but now he just runs the design team.

No. 469592

>>469501
They make you think they will answer something and people go crazy because they're buying into the bullshit that their favorite will be important. It's a cycle, so people then see the fruition of some lore as peak even if it's a minor scene. All they need to see is a cutscenes of pitybait or fighting to call it peak. We know this is all about them trying to get their Honkai waifus into the game and people still listen to Honkai fans and think those girls are just so good that they need to be reused over and over.

No. 469593

>>469571
Exactly, honestly, I want to remember the good designs of girls, like Noelle, she's cute and cool, there's also Ayaka, Barbara, Chiori, Diona, Qiqi, Klee, Kujou Sara, Sucrose, Xinyan and Yun Jin. I think they're the characters that I just can't hate because they're actually well done and have toned down coom aspects.

No. 469596

>>469593
There is no such thing. The female artists reining in the males are gone. Both Yun Jin and Barbra have visible underwear. But back then, they were so normal, nobody noticed or cared. As the teams shifted, so did the prominence of coom. The last hurrah of women at Hoyoverse was in Fontaine. There were female artists confirmed to have made Furina and Chiori, and where are they now? Hoyoverse didnt cave to Korean Incels, but Chinese ones. We will never revive another Chiori or even so much as a Arlechinno.

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>>469596
>>469593
Speaking of design, they're now getting away with a blatant copypaste of the pose and the JP VA.

No. 469616

>>469614
hope hoyoscum gets sued

No. 469617

>>469614
Thank you Lord! A lawsuit! They have finally run out of ideas and now the moids have began to cannibalize each other's slop to shit out more slop. May the verdict be swift.

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saw this getting throw around and kek, imagine being so up your own ass you're confused as to why your gigastacy biker mary sue flopped

No. 469633

>>469632
It's unsurprising they only interviewed males. They sent me a form for one of those survey things but I never heard back the second I filled in that I was a woman.

No. 469634

>>469632
Capitano is dead or they scrapped him, it’s over everyone, go home. Can’t wait for mtf Childe, loli Tsaritsa and Pantalone’s daughter.

No. 469641

>>469634
That doesn't make sense. They wouldn't be excited in that case, they'd just leave at "we can't discuss that". They're going to bring him back somehow, but I'm concerned it's going to be as some slutty waifu.

No. 469642

>>469632
I think it's kinda hilarious how Genshin writers fell into the "strong female character TM" trap. Seriously, if Mavuika came out a few years ago in a western game so many people would call her woke. The problem here isn't that she's cool and powerful and beautiful. There are plenty of well written female characters like that in Genshin. I also expected the Pyro archon to be cool and powerful. The problem is that that's all Mavuika is. There's no depth to her. Hoyo were so scared of making Mavuika fail or falter or be vulnerable or display any flaws at all that they made her inhuman. She always has to be in the right and be better than everyone. How are we meant to feel anything for her? Be concerned for her?

No. 469666

>>469632
>Hoyo is focused on Fatui Harbringers
But they just killed Capitano off after offscreening him for the major part of act V. Unless ESL-kun meant chapter 6?

No. 469670

>>469641
Yes that is exactly why they are excited. If everyone loves male Capitano, then “Capitano’s secret protege that wasn’t Childe who happens to be a short female” should theoretically sell x2, making Genshin’s version of Firefly. That is why they are happy, not because he’s coming back.

No. 469672

>>469632
I love how this shows how unsure they were about her, even they couldnt have faith in their own garbage product made for scrotes.

No. 469679

>>469614
According to leaks current Mihoyo staff is obsessed with Wuthering Waves now so we can expect more plagiarism, leaks are saying that Castorice in HSR is basically going to be a Shorekeeper ripoff and forced waifu like Firefly was in Penacony. There are also rumors about how they gave Mavuika her stupid bike to ape Scar from WuWa because they thought it was cool. It's like Chinese gacha game incest.

>>469632
It genuinely baffles me how blind they are to the peoples' aversion to Mary Sues. Of course nobody would give a shit about Mavuika when you make her perfect in every way. I absolutely hated Ei but at least she pissed me off enough to hate her for being a horrible character in the story, for Mavuika I felt basically nothing because that's the imprint she left on me.

>>469641
He's absolutely going to be resurrected as a waifu. Mark my words.

No. 469683

>>469679
According to the same leaks and to the ending of Natlan's quest, he's likely coming back as the human incarnation of Yohualtecuhtin the lord of the night (female), since he fused with her to spite Ronova as a last minute asspull.
Watch yuritrannies and goonminists cheering up because "icky male got female'd we won sisters".

No. 469684

>>469679
It’s an inside job. Kurobots are purposefully working for Hoyo to make it shit so we play WuWa.

No. 469689

>>469634
>mtf Childe
Please tell me this isn't actually happening.

>>469679
This makes me despise Wuwa now. I know Snowbreak is the holy grail for incels, but the fact that people want all gacha to be like Wuwa with nothing but girls all being ML for a bland male MC makes me wish Wuwa would EOS.

No. 469693

>>469689
Of course if is nonnie, they’re going to make Wanderer a pooner too so they can re-release him as a girl to appease the cat-killers in China.

No. 469694

>>469670
Moids are so stupid. It's pathetic of them because most incels won't be coming back. They still hate the way Mhy tries to pander to everyone, so it only creates a fanbase where the moids need to see everything destroyed. No one wanted Capitano to be a waifu, but I guess after everyone expected retcon Arle and gets angry if people say she was retconned, Mhy fans will slurp anything up and defend that choice too.

No. 469709

>>469632
Where was this posted? I hope the devs are getting roasted.

No. 469727

Why are they trying to troon Childe now? I'm getting pissed the more I keep seeing lorefags talk about it.

No. 469732

>>469614
>>469616
Will they even get sued? What happened to the HSR plagiarism lawsuit?

No. 469759

>>469689
I just don't get who wants to play a gacha game with the gender ratio of 4:1. Incels will still bitch about those few men left, husbandofags aren't gonna bother with the game and normies/metafags/lorefags will notice gender difference that big.

No. 469772

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>>469617
>Thank you Lord! A lawsuit! They have finally run out of ideas and now the moids have began to cannibalize each other's slop to shit out more slop. May the verdict be swift

No. 469776

>>469759
I'm presuming it's the Asian gachacel moids who get off to complaining about the male characters because they can channel their hatred for women at them (so they're essentially ragebait like the Chinese doomer account claims or only exist to make male players feel like chads like Ororon was) and the hypercucked Asian fangirls who think the sexy loli waifu and hentai titcow are cute because they've been been desensitized to the extreme sexualization of female characters and are willing to look the other way just because they hyperfixate on the one bishounen male character that gets released per year.

No. 469800

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I know we talk alot about Arelechinno being ruined, but look at skirk! Even if her old designs were coom at least they resembled the abyss instead of a honkai girl with a 2016 Roblox galaxy outfit. She looks like a royale high reject! Genuinely awful. The feared warrior is another short lolibaba. Citlali, they made you a friend!

No. 469816

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>>469800
Nah. THIS was the real Skirk design robbery.

No. 469817

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Having a sister and being an Hoyo character is literally a death sentence. You don't get to have your own character arc, you're doomed to eternally glaze your sister while you yourself sit happily in the cuck corner. God forbid you get to show an ounce of personality or have any kind of interest that isn't related to your sibiling. This applies to Ayato, Lyney, Sunday and will probably apply to Childe as soon as we step foot in Nod Krai / Snezh.

No. 469822

>>469800
Fuck. This is incredible.

No. 469825

>>469800
I really wish that Skirk was a tall model, it doesn't make any sense to me that she's going to look like a little girl. Her design is so hideous I haven't even seen any mommy dommy porn of her and Childe, not even scrotes like her.

No. 469845

>>469817
Don't forget about Albedo and Barbara, even though the writers clearly did. Another tinfoil, notice how theres little to no blood brothers compared to sisters? Freminet and Kaeya are all adopted. It's all to appeal to one specific type of creep, but the inverse never gets to happen. Just like theres 9 children, and all of them happen to be female, despite the child model being inherently unisex.

No. 469847

>>469845
Childe has his NPC brother Teucer, but thats about it for little brothers. I never noticed that odd discrepancy before, weird. You'd think they'd at least want to get one or two moids with a self-inserty little brother with a big sister.

No. 469850

>>469817
Lyney being reduced into glazing and loredumping about Lynette was one of the worst slaps in the face I've endured in Genshin because he was such an interesting character (a magician's apprentice who's being groomed into becoming the next father of raising child soldiers) but all of his dialogue is just Lynette this and Lynette that while Lynette's entire personality is just being a silly kuudere. I can't believe how they have all these exciting premises for characters and just don't use them. Ayato had the same fate. He was framed as a manipulative man going through real shit to restore his family's grace yet he ended up being a wingman to Ayaka.

No. 469853

>>469850
Nona gets me. Words can't express how big my disappointment was when he was reduced to Lynette circlejerking in this year's birthday art. God I hate these scrote devs.

No. 469855

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>>469817
This. And aside from Lyney and Lynette, it is always the sister who is the sweet, approachable one with zero real flaws, while the brother ends up as the duty-bound, evil keikaku master working from the shadows to protect his sister’s smile. They never give the female sibling actual believable flaws, she is always the flawless waifu who only thinks about love and peace. I have noticed this with Ayaka, Robin, and Serval. And I am pretty sure Tonia and Childe will also have a similar dynamic. Hoyo writers seem completely incapable of writing female characters with realistic flaws. At most, they will make her a terrible cook (Therta, Ei) or a self-obsessed narc who cannot shut up about how kawaii she is (Elysia, M7).

No. 469856

>>469855
I've never played HI3 but literally everything I've learned about Elysia after Amphoreus came out in HSR makes me hate her and wish that her expy is never introduced in either game.

No. 469857

>>469856
unfortunately that's exactly what's happening in hsr.

No. 469866

>>469856
She is unironically the biggest Mary Sue created by Hoyoverse. She makes characters like Mavuika and Firefly look flawed and interesting in comparison. Amphoreus has been okay so far, but I'm pretty sure it will turn into an endless Cyrene glaze fest once the story starts focusing on her. And people will lap it up as peak transcendental writing because incels and trannies just love the trope of the flawless, overpowered waifu sacrificing herself to save humanity.

No. 469869

>>469847
They can’t even fit in oneeshota like with MeiMei and UiUi despite it being a male fantasy of having a big sister, because of the mere chance a female shotacon somewhere might benefit. Even though male children pose the LEAST threat, they hate male characters so much they can’t even scrape together a pity 4 star. Xbalanque was a free 5 star must pull right there and they couldn’t resist making him an NPC. I’m not even a shotafag but it makes me irrationally angry they’ll make a ton of girls, an entire race of exclusively female furry lolis but ONE male child/sibling is too many. Shameless pedophiles.

No. 469996

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Genshin posts a few white day arts and one out of the three is the fucking robot dog. They truly do not give a shit about their female player base anymore.

No. 469997

What the actual fuck was that White Day art? The Ororon one was fine, made me think we were off to a good start, then Sethos calls you a whore and the fucking robot dog shows up and tells you to imagine that you have macarons? Like I'm apparently expected to imagine that I'm looking at a White Day art of my husbando?

No. 469999

>>469997
>>469996
>Ororon
>Sethos
They truly chose the least non-threatening males for scrotes. God forbid we get a Kinich or a Wrio or literally any other male character actual females are interested in.

No. 470004

>>469996
They could have done an NPC like Cassiodor, Xavier, one of the male Natlan tribe chiefs, Iaune, hell even Hook if they really wanted it to be a robot, and they chose the dog?

No. 470005

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>Valentine's get Citlali (THE waifufag character), Shenhe (Token porny character) and Melusines (Token furry character)
>White day is literally who cares #1, literally who cares #2, literally who cares #3 (which is a robot DOG by the way)
This truly felt like their biggest "fuck you" to women so far. Guess I'm off replaying my favorite otomes for white day since I know the stream will probably be more waifu wanking.

No. 470007

>>470004
>dog
I'm not one to cry out misogyny at every single little thing but this is such a painfully obvious jab at women. Mind you, they're capable of featuring human characters in Valentine's, since they featured Jeht, they simply choose not to because they see women as less than human.

No. 470010

>>469996
At this point anyone still willingly playing hoyoshit is a masochist who enjoys being humilated

No. 470013

File: 1741931034178.jpg (1.35 MB, 1284x840, ghglhl.jpg)

>>470010
Normalfags are way too gullible. Many women are seeing this as a genshin problem, not a hoyo problem in general. I have already seen so many posts claiming HSR is superior just because it had the better White Day lineup, when the reality is that both games are garbage when it comes to how they treat their female player base.

No. 470020

>>470013
>Please play HSR, we need free publicity
The neverending HSR shilling never fails to get me keek. Waifuslop like ZZZ and HSR will never get the mass appeal like Genshin no matter how much Da Wei astroturfs them

No. 470021

>>470020
I don’t care if the male characters in HSR get naked, I’m not touching turn based slop no matter what. I already quit Genshin, their uggos don't motivate me to do anything and I sure as fuck won’t move to ZZZ.

No. 470024

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>>469996
>Here’s your gift from a emo cabbage farmer who gets bitched by Aether’s whore
>Here’s your gift from the uggo yaoi shill, with his creepy radioactive eyes
>Here’s your gift from a fucking fake dog, because you’re a stupid bitch for staying here!
Happy white day sisters!

No. 470036

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>>470010
HSR still has more bishounen and hot men than Genshin which only has Childe, Zhong, Ayato, Wriothesley and…yeah that's about it

No. 470037

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>>470013
As lolcow’s resident Sethosfag allow me to say that even I wasn’t happy with this. Just another disingenuous example of Hoyoverse using my poor boy as a disarming tool for moids after the whole Scaramouche birthday debacle. At this point I just wish they would forget he exists so I can live in peace.

No. 470043

>>470036
And those bishounen and hot men in HSR are still treated like second class citizens compared to the waifushit. Genshin treating its female players like the dried shit in Dawei’s ass doesnt make HSR good.

No. 470057

>>470013
What a shitshow.

No. 470065

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ifa

No. 470067

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>>470005
The one-two punch of the retarded white day picks and revealing Ifa's ugly as sin design today on the stream. Wow. Are there any female devs left on the team at all? Whoever designed Varesa and Ifa should be shot.

No. 470069

>>470065
Wtf he looks fugly as shit it's probably on purpose

No. 470072

>>470067
>>470065
I like his droopy eyes, i feel like his outfit could be tweaked a little and he'd fit in minus the flying little shit. too bad he's a natlan character so he probably won't be allowed to be interesting and/or will just be treated as ororon fujobait.

No. 470073

>>470065
Omg he has the downs just like Diluc! And… Laya or whatever her name is

No. 470074

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>>470065
It's true, they do love ripping off things from the better devs

No. 470076

>>470074
dear lord spoiler this creature

No. 470077

>>469869
Preach.
>>470007
They really said "here, go fuck a dog."
>>470067
What in the smooth criminal… His face is actually really cute and his skin suits it, but they just had to make his outfit busy af and not even in the Tighnari way.

No. 470079

>>470067
>anemo
>teased for future patches
He's going to be the token male 5 isn't he. RIP my savings for Dahlia 5. Not that I had any hope to begin with.

No. 470081

>>470074
My first thought too, but if I try to give a little grace maybe Ifa's hat looks like the kind safari guides wear. It's no secret they've been watching Wuwa like a hawk, though.

No. 470083

>>470077
>His face is actually really cute and his skin suits it, but they just had to make his outfit busy af and not even in the Tighnari way.
this is exactly how I feel, his fit looks terrible. how the fuck did we go from alhaitham and wriothesley to this?
just wishing he's a 4 star so I can get him with standard wishes now.

No. 470085

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>>470067
He looks normal in the art, it’s just another Diluc, Albedo, Itto situation where the model is ugly but the art makes them look handsome. I wonder why only male characters seem to suffer this. What a mystery!

No. 470086

>>469850
It sucks because Lyney was actually supposed to be yumebait, he always cared about lynette but he's also one of the male characters who was really into tabibito however of course the moids at hoyo got mad and turned him into a siscon.
>>470065
I personally like the droopy eyes and the neck tattoo. His outfit is ugly

No. 470088

>>470065
Holy shit he looks low effort enough to pass as an altered NPC model. He's horrendously ugly.

No. 470089

I'm pretty sure Ifa is gonna be a 5 star. As for his ugly model, all the natlan characters are ugly as fuck so it only makes sense he's also ugly

No. 470090

>>470065
I think its his hat thats making him look weird, without it he'd look fine. I don't really like how the strap from it makes it seem like he's wearing earbuds too.

No. 470091

>>470067
Inb4 the deluge of shitty, uncreative Ifa/Ororon fics because it's "canon". Barf.

No. 470092

>>470074
Ifa is ugly but he's not THAT hideous.

No. 470094

>>470067
I actually stopped playing like 2 months ago because of the horrendous Natlan designs. Wrio rerun almost made me come back, but after seeing this. Holy shit fire everyone who worked on the natlan designs because they are so ass

No. 470096

>>470094
>Alright men, if we don’t release another male they’ll catch on, what can we shit out design wise?
>Well what are the most popular male characters?
>Wriothesley, Neuvilette, Alhaitham, Capitano
>Eh, let’s just take the weakest one there and ape him. Women like scars and droopy eyes right?
>What are the WuWa guys doing?
>Fedora men with terrible blue coloring
>Perfect, let’s make him a 4 star

No. 470097

>>470096
Kek, to make it even worse Ifa is anemo. We already have so many male anemo characters.
>inb4 but he is our first tall male anemo character!
I literally dont care. Collecting only male characters sucks because i already have to many on field and offield anemo characters. Make it stop

No. 470098

>>470096
>let’s make him a 4 star
Nah he'll be a 5 star

No. 470100

Codes for whoever missed them

GI55Teteocan

GoGoVaresa0326

Coachlansan0326

No. 470101

Are there really not going to be any other Pyro characters in Natlan? Do they really need to make Mavuika even more special?

No. 470102

>>470100
today sucked so bad I don't even want to log in to get the primos

No. 470103

>anemo
Fuck this gay shit

No. 470104

Ifa being not only ugly but also anemo is such a spit in the face. It's like HSR making all the male characters one element so you can't use husbando only teams. They could have made him any other element (such as, for example, just a thought, PYRO considering he's from the nation of FIRE), but of course he has to join 5WIRL or 6LOW or whatever the fuck anemo boy band name we are on at this point. Considering his profession, he's most likely going to be some type of support, but what can he even bring to the table at this point? Jean and Xianyun are good healers, that downie bitch that was just released is a good shielder, and Kazuha is Kazuha.

No. 470105

>>470101
Of course not! The same way Mydei is another imaginary male DPS who can’t even attack instead of being Fire-Destruction because Firefly can be the only one.

No. 470106

>>469800
People are actually hype for her. She's going to sell because Genshin fans love eating garbage.
>>469855
It's a trend I'm very tired of. But then idiots on twitter also hate characters having flaws, especially female characters, because if you talk about her flaws that's misogyny. Now hsr will do the same "pure little sister, evil brother" with the Elysia and Kevin expys. Even the "feminists" don't want flawed women, look at how they ate up Arlecchino being defanged into a good parent.
>>469996
To be fair, the Valentine's art also had random melusines. But yes, people are defending this which is why trying to complain about this treatment is pointless because it will be called misogyny.
>>470013
The problem with hsr is they have good husbandos but they also treat them like shit. It's the same tactic as Genshin but no one ever learns. They'll become irrelevant in the story and in the meta, with some merch churned out to keep women happy, like how they're pimping out Aventurine. They will fuck over men who don't sell, like Sunday.

No. 470108

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Childe is now being called a "she" because of these theorists. I can't even say it would be delusional to turn a male into a female after years of advertising them to players as male because Hyv is this disgusting. Even if it's a theory it's already enough for troons to take it as fact and bully people into calling Childe a girl.

No. 470109

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>>470085
>I wonder why only male characters seem to suffer this
you have to be joking when characters like yelan, shenhe, and yae exist. they all look cute or beautiful in their 2d art but have horrible models, especially the faces. yelan's model was so low quality the devs felt they had to fix her nails after her release (3.4).

No. 470111

>>470109
I’ve never owned a female 5 star that wasn’t Jean so I’d have no clue if you’re right or not, but I’ve never heard people complain about their models, compared to Diluc being ugly. Maybe it’s not an issue of gender but the fact that Genshin devs are incapable of making good 3d models, and the artsyle is hideous.

No. 470112

>>470074
God I hate Wuwa and the fact that Hyv is copying this garbage. I wish this shit would EOS.

No. 470113

>>470106
Genshin males up until natlan were relevant in the story. Kazuha, alhaitham, neuvilette, diluc, zhongli, childe, lyney have stronger plot relevance than most waifus. This is why moids were seething, because the waifus were clearly bait, while the husbandos had more lore and impact on the story.

No. 470114

>>470112
WuWa dies about a year or two before Genshin does. Hopefully soon.

No. 470115

>>470113
Also scaramouche, albedo.
Mondstadt - very focused on venti, diluc, kaeya, albedo
Liyue - very focused on zhongli, childe, xiao
Inazuma - the first region that's waifu dominated, but still we had kazuha being featured in every single event and the first inazuman playable character
Sumeru - very focused on most of the playable male characters, alhaitham, tighnari, cyno, scaramouche
Fountaine - very focused on neuvilette, lyney and alhaitham are also plot relevant
Natlan - crickets

No. 470116

>>470113
>>470115
Not to bat on the side of the waifus, but has anybody questioned why they refuse to make good female characters? Even the ones that are alright are dampered by whichever set of lingerie they're wearing. Are there any normies that realize people want men because that's the only chance they have at a real character? I'm sure less people would demand male characters if the female ones were given personalities and better designs. Although I doubt any waifufags truly want to get complex female characters, they just want a sad backstory to point as a gotcha "See? She's super deep and you're the real sexist for calling her design sexist!"

No. 470117

>>470113
This is why you have lorefags trying to say that Childe will revert back into a woman. They can't imagine a man being important so he has to be a girl.

>>470116
>
Not to bat on the side of the waifus, but has anybody questioned why they refuse to make good female characters?
This conversation can never happen when people think it's misogyny to even question a female character's writing. They don't actually want flawed female characters. Immature people want to see themselves as perfect, so they want to be a sad waifu, not see themselves in a woman who's fucked up. Even thought most of these yuricel gacha feminists aren't nice good people themselves.

No. 470120

>>470117
It's very odd to see it happen. It's as if they need some grand sad story to justify the teenager in a bikini they pulled for. You're already a male anime fan, just admit to being a gooner, we all already assume so. And the worst part is real living breathing women come to their defense!

No. 470123

>>470114
Why hate wuwa more than genshin? Genuine question.

No. 470125

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War and Famine have the nerve to sit upon the same horse.

No. 470126


No. 470127

>>470074
Top 5 ugliest gacha character I’ve ever seen

No. 470130

>>470100
It's actually CoachIansan0326

No. 470132

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>>470074
Whenever I see this guy I wonder if the designers saw pic related and got a very wrong idea.

No. 470134

>>470132
It's like men are entirely blind to what women find attractive in male characters. It's why I assumed Gege Akutami was female, I could not believe a man created Gojo, Geto, Choso, etc.

No. 470135

>>470123
It's one thing to be a shitty game. It's another thing to copy a shitty game and continue to be just as awful.

No. 470137

>>470106
>People are actually hype for her.
Are thye? Half of my social media are calling her uggo. Maybe I'm following the right people?

No. 470141

>>470134
>It's why I assumed Gege Akutami was female, I could not believe a man created Gojo, Geto, Choso, etc.
What? Gojo is just a moid's version of a bishie, and he depises him for that. Not to mention he looks ugly as fuck in gege's original artstyle. Geto and the rest are just typical manly shounen characters and toji is literally the most blatant example of male hands at work. I refuse to believe a japanese woman would create a character like toji, he just oozes of tryhard toxic masculinity. They're all characters that appeal to the male aesthetic, but mappa made them look prettier for the fujobucks.

No. 470142

>>470141
>I refuse to believe a japanese woman would create a character like toji, he just oozes of tryhard toxic masculinity
To be fair he either has a backstory of being a sugar baby, or would have become one if he wasn't a sorcerer, and the idea of a scrote assigning that trait to a character who is otherwise muh manly strong man is very funny.

No. 470145

>>470065
>>470067
Enter, the mandatory bland fujobait. Thank you for waiting 5 patches, enjoy the pathetic crumbs with Ororon and remember to buy merch of his adorable mascot!

No. 470149

>>470145
>fujobait
please, no. anything but that.

No. 470151

>>470149
That’s hoyoslop’s modus operandi. Pair two soulless faggots, give them a generic dynamic and let delusional fans do 99% of the leg work outside of the actual game.

No. 470155

>>470065
>>470067
I actually think he's cute. An Anemo character can at the very least hold VV to provide something to a team. My concern is we really don't need more Anemo healers when Jean is standard and Cloud Retainer also does the plunge thing. He'll need to provide something else to the team to really give value. In an ideal world he'd do Bennett things but I doubt they'll want to undercut Iansan so soon.
>>470074
Oh come on, his design is nowhere near as offensive as this creatura. The design is clearly Steve Irwin + doctor.

No. 470156

>>470151
Let's be honest though. Ever since Ifa's first mention in Ororon's voicelines, the braindead fujos have already been creaming their panties over their newest region canon ship. They see Hoyo throwing them two tall male characters and eat that slop up, because uwu obviously Hoyo is saying they're fucking. The majority of Genshin fujos are absolutely pathetic.

No. 470159

>>470151
>>470156
Only the lowliest of fujo bottom feeders would enjoy Hoyoslop shipping. Even compared to other genshin fans and other fujos, they're losers. Even Sonic slash shipping is less humiliating.

No. 470160

>>470142
Yeah but I think that's part of gege's comedic tidbits and it smells male to me. Gojo looks like a shiny bishie but is supposed to be very unlikable at the same time, he's a deconstruction of the trope and in my opinion only a man who seethes at bishies would write him like that. Toji is this ultra masc sigma male ideal who is also a loser who mooches off the women he fucks. Idk all his characters behave too much like ultra scrotes and they appeal to scrote sensibilities. People think gege might be a woman only because of the female characters, as if there aren't plenty of men, especially the zoomers who read jjk, who are into dominant stacies, mean muscle mommies and loud mouthed delinquents, I mean that's almost the premise of chainsaw man kek. And gojo and geto's relationship doesn't read as fujobait either, it's literally just how men act with their bros. Mha's writing is unironically more fujobaity, and that's a series with a confirmed male mangaka.

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>>470145
>>470151
>>470156
>>470159
What do you get out of this game as a female player if not for the fujobait?

No. 470162

>>470161
Husbandos duh

No. 470164

>>470161
Exactly, I'm a fujo and I don't care about the "cheap" bait, I'm here for the fanart. All gacha games have the same fujoslop, it doesn't matter to me, cause I don't get invested.

No. 470165

>>470162
There's barely no yumebait

No. 470175

>>470165
>Barely
Xiao, Albedo, Childe, Wanderer, Venti, Kazuha, Lyney, Kinich all have had at the very least some semblance of yumebait. Granted, they're not going to pull a LADS, but Genshin up to late Fontaine was decent enough for yumes.
Unless you liked tall men. No husbando for you then

No. 470176

>>470116
People have actually zero expectations for female characters, they just need to look cute and/or sexy and have a fun personality trope. Women into male characters usually have much higher standards so they actually have to put effort and thought into writing them.

>>470117
>This conversation can never happen when people think it's misogyny to even question a female character's writing.
Every time I try to have this conversation with other women defending hoyowaifus they just start bitching about how I can't call the bad writing out because these characters are their precious kinnies and totally just like them so subsequently that makes me a misogynist. I hate it so much.

No. 470177

>>470164
You are the exact type of slurper hoyo wants playing their games nona. Other gacha games arent afraid to give their designated fujo characters proper screentime/arcs, but you can keep deluding yourself other games have the same sterile and lifeless fujobait that hoyoslop does

No. 470182

>>470161
I don't play this crap(baiting)

No. 470183

>>470165
Learn to speak English

No. 470184

>>470182
Why are you in this thread bitching about fujos then, go back to your containment(infighting)

No. 470185

>>470177
Alhaitham didn't get enough screentime? Kaveh? Diluc and kaeya are literally here from the first patch? Xingqiu blushing at chongyun? Most popular fujo genshin ships interacted in game multiple times and have strong ties to each other, don't rewrite history now just because you're mad kaveh and sethos exist kek. And none of us asked for canon confirmation, it's a gacha game for a reason and at the end of the day, there's still real women behind these husbandos and their dynamics, they're trying to work the best they can with the material they have. It's not their fault dawei is a frustrated cuck who switched the pandering audience, hoyo staff isn't made up entirely of incels, a lot of them are huge xiao fans and at first it was supposed to be a genuine mixed gender gacha. And I don't even spend any money on this game anyway.

No. 470187

>>470185
>best examples are from 1.x to 3.x characters
KEK I knew you’d say that. The little blush from the lantern event is really all the crumbs you need huh, exactly what that anon was describing upthread. Dont mind me and the other nonnies though, you’re clearly happy with the slop hoyocel devs serve you, and the devs are happy to have desperate fujos like you. Thats a win-win.

No. 470189

>game shits on women
>women shit on each other
Pottery. Though, the yume/fujo sperg outs probably contribute to why they would rather make coomer girls instead, before they get reported to the government.

No. 470190

>>470187
Nona, this is a chinese game.

No. 470194

>>470185
You didn't ask about canon? It's even worse. You slop fujos automatically declare any two tall males Hoyo throws you to string along as canon and attack others who dare to ship them with others. You have this delusion that Hoyo owes you a canon tall m/m ship every region and it's getting more and more desperate. Ororon talking about Ifa is 100% innocuous and yet it's been declared canon by the likes of you that those two must be fucking despite the fact that Ororon is supremely socially awkward and a kind of loner who prefers the company of animals and plants. But you’re all going to turn those two into the same daddy dom/crying uke who gobbles up cock ship like you've been doing with every other ship like Haikaveh. It's basically just a repaint. Same ooc slop, different names.(fujo sperging)

No. 470195

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>>470189
Yeah the retarded infighting isn't helping. Can we all agree that Hoyo baiting both fujo and yumes only to end up as a nothingburger sucks? We all deserve better than this

No. 470197

>>470194
Genuinely who cares, they're gacha characters. They don't have much personality to begin with, and the fanart/fics are hot. Boo hoo fucking hoo.

No. 470199

>>470194
Ok at this point it sounds like you have a personal problem unrelated to genshin

No. 470201

So this is all it takes to have the hoyo defence force come out the woodworks

No. 470202

>>470199
Probably a refugee from /vg/. That place has some of the most mentally ill yumes.(infight/bait)

No. 470204

>>470190
So is Arknights and they dont shy away like Genshin, find another excuse

No. 470206

>>470204
Arknights has fujobait?

No. 470207

>>470204
Arknights has husbandos?

No. 470208

>>470189
>game shits on women
I’m fine though, the game gives me enough fujo sustenance. Makes sense that all the seething about le heckin evil game is from yumeshits like you and the other anons though

No. 470209

>>470197
You can be a fujo and not just slurp up the cheapest of bait, you know. And I for one like my fujo ships in character when they're fucking and not read bad porn re-enactments, but you do you, I guess.

No. 470210

>>470206
>>470207
Hoyotards really do play nothing outside of hyv games kek

No. 470211

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>>470207
>>470206
Look at this incredibly well written male character with proper screentime/arc.

No. 470213

>>470209
Same, idk why anons are trying to twist it into a fujo/yume war. I’m a fujo and while I still enjoy my genshin ships I’m not gonna sit here and pretend it isnt half-assed on the dev’s part, I thought we all knew its purely carried by fans and thats exactly what devs are trying to cash in on with their laziness. Some anons take it as a personal affront to them when you point out how sterile the bait is in canon.

No. 470214

Fujo and antifujo slapfight out of containment, please go back. I thought we all agreed Hoyoverse is stringing along women to be the backbone of their fandom. The enemy is not women gooning to gay ships, or even women who think Haikaveh is gods gift to homosexual activism. The enemy is the company who made such flat characters that are easily twisted into being useless uke/seme. Hoyoverse is cucking you twice, once with terrible ships where you must create all the fanfic and fanart off a single drop of cannon interraction. And the second time is when they turn around and use the same yaoi characters to pander to yumes, who will then tear apart the fujos in a evil ouroboros of free Genshin promotion via Twitter war.

No. 470215

Girl there's people shipping ifa with varesa, I think ifa and ororon should be the least of your worries lol if you think the fujo ships are bad, at least we aren't shipping the few husbandos we have with literal goonerbait

No. 470217

>>470213
Its probably that sensitive haikaveh tard who had a melty last thread. Imagine defending a company that doesnt even see you as human.

No. 470218

>>470210
Do you think people have time to juggle all the gacha that's out there like you? While also liking nongacha stuff? 3-4 games is my limit tbh.

No. 470219

>>470215
>people
I will bet my Dottore savings there isn't a single genuine shipper for those two. But even then, I say shipping husbandos with goonerbait is a good thing, as it ruins the purpose. If we ship Citlali with Knich instead of Aether, moids would have to seethe about getting cucked, no? It's why I abandoned all my gay ships for straight ones. Makes all the bad actors go apeshit.

No. 470222

>>470215
>Girl
Go back

No. 470225

>>470219
I doubt any moids are seething

No. 470226

I feel totally hopeless for Dahlia.

No. 470227

>>470202
Kek I was thinking the exact same thing, it sounds identical to the schizo yumes from the hoyoslop threads in there. She should spend a fraction of that energy shadow boxing fujos into shaming waifufag scrotes actually ruining the game.(infight/bait)

No. 470228

>>470151
I fail to see why your post triggered fujos to have a melty when we’ve already accepted this as hoyo’s strategy in the thread before(fujo bait)

No. 470232

>>470228
Being faced with the reality that you happily let a game take you for a fool is tough to accept I guess. Either that or just newfags. Its the same reason why twitterfags cry about no males but then scream and clap when a new art is commissioned for twitter like the recent onsen one.

No. 470233

>>470228
I don't think it was that, it was calling women "braindead" that did it.
Then again, husbandofags are also braindead losers aren't they? This thread is about braindead losers who played this game together.

No. 470234

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>>470227
>into shaming waifufag scrotes actually ruining the game
Lel yumes there are constantly defending waifufags while shitting on fujos unprovoked.(infight/bait)

No. 470237

>>470233
Yeah this is why. I said that I know it's flat writing, but I enjoy it for the cute fanart and she got mad and insulted me and said it's my fault hoyo is giving us all this slop. There's no reason to be so offended by fujobait, unless you're a seething yume/straight shipper who hates that even my kind gets some crumbs and she won't be able to scroll fanart of her husbando in peace.(fujo sperging outside containment)

No. 470239

>>470234
I shit you not, go visit Sethos' White day art on social media and see the comments. 99% of them is talking about sethoscara in a post where sethoscara isn't even mentioned.
As a yume this obviously pisses me off but I don't go around blaming fujos themselves. If anything this sort of behavior is enabled by hoyo flip flopping between pandering to both yumes and fujos. Nobody is to blame here except them

No. 470240

>>470234
>Incels ruin an omnigacha game, remove or humiliate all the male characters and make the female ones even more coomery than before
>Yuritroons bully everyone into silence from criticizing the female characters because two sexy waifus making out is a sapphic feminist win and a racist if you think the onsen prostitute's butchered kimono is inappropriate
>Pickmes call you a slutshaming misogynist if you don't think Varesa is peak body positivity design
>Only claw and screech at fujos and blame them for everything
Pottery(fujo sperging outside containment)

No. 470242

>>470233
At least you can admit they’re all braindead, good job nonny

No. 470245

>>470240
>look at varesa's new promotional art
>the smallest waist and ribcage with skinny arms
>massive hips and tits
This character is supposed to be the poster child for body diversity and positivity and fat representation?

No. 470246

>>470242
>They're
Seems like you still need work there braindead nonny

No. 470247

>>470246
What does this mean, nonna I’m concerned

No. 470248

>>470246
>esl trying to educate someone on english
Kekkkkk

No. 470249

>>470247
>>470248
>They're
We're all braindead here for playing this game nonnies it's not that hard to figure out

No. 470251

>>470246
This is kinda embarrassing nona you still have 25 minutes to delete it

No. 470255

>>470251
No don't, it's funnier this way.

No. 470338

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No. 470352

So is Ifa four star or five star? His outfit gives me major four star energy but at the same time I don't think Genshin would make another tall male a four star.

No. 470417

>>470352
We don't know yet. Leakers were wrong about Ifa's element so we have no idea. I want him to be a five star but I'm not optimistic.

No. 470424

uhh by the state of the thread im guessing this is not a good time to getting back into the game? i stopped playing around natlan's release bc i had to focus on school and i finally have enough free time now

No. 470461

>>470424
Not really, the game is going full on waifufag galore while actively pissing on its female fanbase, see >>469996
You could ignore anything past Fontaine and wait for Nod Krai but there's no guarantee it won't be scrote haven 2

No. 470462

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Slight blogpost but I got gifted one of these and while I really appreciate the gesture I can't help but shame the money that Hoyo pocketed. That and that the game still pretends to be for the general audiences while churning out waifushit in game, it enrages me to no end.

No. 470464

>>470462
These are sooo cute! Too bad genshin is evil and non playable characters get no merch. Imagine if Capitano had a little tiny smile.

No. 470507

>>470123
Because Wuwa is part of the reason genshin is becoming like this. It's a trend that's making most of these mixed gachas suck. Release few men, make all waifus only for ML, only show the male MC with the waifus.

No. 470508

>>470234
I hate the insane shippers but self inserters are so crazy I also want them to fuck off. I don't agree that their fujobait is queer representation or the best yaoi, but the way yumes react over their husbando being shipped makes me less sympathetic. Not as bad as incels, but that's a low bar. But the real enemy is Mhy. They make people fight for scraps and make people feel like resources are slim, which creates more engagement for their game. They have psychologists on their team, they know how to use it well. They know that people will stick with a game they hate if they can spite other fans and see other fans suffering. It's why they won't go full ML too, because they like seeing incels get angry and harass other fans. It's why they like seeing women fight over yumebait or fujobait and what male character should be a five star. They like the gender war and they profit off it. In the current age of social media and rage driving algorithms, the same goes for games like this.(derailing)

No. 470512

>>470508
I'm a yume and I couldn't care less about my husbando being shipped. I just want male characters to actually appear in the story, not get tits and pussy shoved in my face 24/7, and not get shafted on the one day of the year mhy is supposed to put out actual yumebait.

No. 470540

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/37638606
Official Hoyo post. Seems like Natlan isn't doing so well…

No. 470564

>>468861
I haven't played since Sumeru and stayed in my husbandofujo corner, occasionally checking out the new lore, and this still sent me into a suicidal-no copium left chimpout bc this is all I ever wanted. Early Mond was my favorite. But you have to be a schizo to believe Hoyo will deliver on this front (or deliver at all atp). Being a lorefag Kaeyafag is suffering.

No. 470577

>>470540
Comment section nuked in 3, 2, 1…

No. 470588

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I would unironically pull if they started making bishies with facial hair. I went insane for Gallagher.

No. 470608

>>470588
>facial hair
You're gonna get jumped for this, nonna.

No. 470614

>>470608
I don’t want to hear a thing about facial hair being nasty when nonnas here are attracted to Xbalanque.

No. 470616

>>470588
moids are so insecure they are capable of slapping facial hair onto all male characters just to spite female players and so their waifus look more underage by comparison

No. 470617

>>470614
Facial hair suck and are gross. Anime boys shouldn't have them at all especially because they don't give body hair to women.

No. 470618

>>470617
I also believe female characters should have body hair, but I probably don’t count since I don’t draw anime. I just think hair that isn’t a neon impossible haircut makes the character look much more human.

No. 470619

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>>470618
Maybe animu games arent for you, you should try AAA normie moidslop. It has plenty of boring men with facial hair.

No. 470623

>>470619
But these men are ugly, I want more of Gallagher and Wriothesley, but all that exists are the regular bishie or roidpig ugly bara.

No. 470624

>>470623
>But these men are ugly
so is gallagher. There is that ugly scrote from Limbus company too, i think his name is Gregor and this redditor from >>470074 There is no shortage of ugly unwashed facepubed male characters in anime, we do not need more.

No. 470625

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>>470624
Ouch, is it really such a universal hate? Also you called me out with Gregor, I was keeping that husbando under wraps because he is an ugly roach. But I guess I can see why some people want their beautiful men to stay beautiful. Like when handmaidens give Neuvillette an ugly triangle beard. (Shudder)

No. 470627

>>470625
I am just pointing out that there are enough characters to fit your autistic fetish already. Be glad, women who actually have incredible niche taste that never get met arent so lucky lol.

No. 470632

>>470627
I’m sorry Da Wei…. my ignorance and selfishness has caused a hundred yumejoshi to have been executed by beheading In retaliation. I bow.

No. 470641

>>470619
>pic
Jesus christ what a fucking abomination

No. 470669

>>470151
>>470185
Reading these fights only makes me hate Mhy more. They know about this and they encourage it. I do think Mhy yaoi is weak but I also don't care much for yumebait and I think all their ships are weak because all their characters are weak. You can't build good ships when it's waiting for a company to spoonfeed you tropes without understanding why people like them. Some of the most fun yaoi to ship are ships that were never intended to be canon, but the characters were strong and fun enough to imagine their chemistry, or they were good one scene wonders. Mhy fujos think they need to wait for the company approval before shipping anything, which ruins the fun. The ones who argue that x husbando is coded as gay are full of shit, but that's not the problem with Mhy yaoi. People can try and say some ships is danmei coded but they'll never be as good because Mhy is like YA novelists trying to imitate fanfic tropes. They can only give you a facsimile of the real thing because their hearts aren't in it. I wish Genshin fujos and all Mhy fujos would just admit that no ship is canon and its not "queer representation" and that your ship isn't better than anyone else's. We're falling for Mhy's traps. They admit they like seeing fujos fight. They like seeing yumes fight over scraps of their husbands. The fandom spends more time fighting each other and Mhy knows this and banks on it. They like us fighting because it means we won't turn on them, and we'll keep playing their shitty games not out of fun, but so we can "win" a fanwar against someone else.

No. 470672

>>470669
Well-said. Instead of giving us hoyo-assigned faggotry they could just give us natural interactions between the cast and the chemistry will come through. To be honest though it all boils down to how utterly dogshit Genshin's writing is. Not even character's SQs are allowed to be about the actual character most of the time.

No. 470676

>>470352
He's a male and he's brown. Of course he's a four star.

No. 470679

>>470676
I think they'll go Cyno route as in 5* with absolutely dogshit kit

No. 470681

>>470679
We just had the bathouse prostitute, would they release another anemo 5 star this soon after?

No. 470682

>>470681
The onsen whore was a standard, I can see them pushing him as a 5 star because otherwise Natlan would have 0 tall five star males. Even scrote central Inazuma had two

No. 470697

>>470682
Lame. Not that interested in rolling for another anemo 5 star.

No. 470699

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>>470697
I'd be mad about a five star Ifa too simply because I was saving for my boy Dahlia, and obviously nu-Hoyo isn't going to release two five star males in a row. Praying they just keep him as a four star.

No. 470702

>>470669
>>470672
One my biggest problem with Mihoyo's writing has always been that the writers room is too aware of self inserters (be it yumes or just the random incel) and fujos/yurifags to the point that they simply refuse to let characters interact meaningfully with someone of the opposite gender. Initially we barely got actual cast interactions and that got better overtime but still it feels almost forbidden to have a male character to have an actual important relationship with a female character and that be displayed onscreen.
We see little hints of it here and there, like Kinichi being a part of a friendship trio with Mualani and Ororon and Ctlali in Natlan or Neuvilette and Furina etc. Please, dont get me wrong, I dont want shipbait, I mean just actual normal interactions that happen onscreen. Like, I kind of wish we had seen Nahida and Scaramouche's dynamics for more than 5 seconds, I think the idea of her acting as his stern older sister is pretty funny and adorable.

No. 470705

>>470699
Dahlia is so cute. Wont get me to redownload especially if he's just a throwaway 4 star but I'll enjoy the fanart from afar.
>>470702
Yeah, I guess its because most people working at hoyo are otaku themselves which is why that awareness seeps through so blatantly to the actual detriment of the game.

No. 470722

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>>470702
Nahida and Wanderer make up one of my favourite dynamics in the game and I say that as someone with 0 attraction to Scara; no prior investment, I just think they’re great. But oh, here come the fucking Chinese pedophiles to hiss and kick and throw poor Sethos in the ring as meat fodder because they can’t stand their Theresa expy interacting with a man onscreen (literally a dick-less puppet, mind you) for longer than 0.3 seconds. Scrotes, everyone.

No. 470769

>>470722
right??? and no shade to the sethos fans i think he's cute and i'm sure his dynamic with scara can be cute too but it's just frustrating that he's used as a scapegoat when nahida and scaramouche have so many paralels to each other you could write a bible on it, and that it has been explicitly told to us that they are working closely together now but we're just… denied those interactions (which would have been entirely fucking plantonic to anyone who's not an absolute freak that should be in jail) because men have this irrational fear of being cucked

No. 470790

>>470588
Normally I'm not a fan of facial hair on these characters (Every wriothesley facial hair edit ive ever seen has been painfully ugly imo) but I think your picrel is actually cute, cuter than the actual ifa anyways.
>>470614
KEK agreed

No. 470791

>>470702
They're aware that shipfags will call those couples canon if they have any meaningful interaction and I think most of the staff, being weebs themselves, know that it's very difficult to write purely platonic male-female dynamic. That's why they go for tropes where they're siblings, family, part of a bigger friend group, gang, one is a subordinate or an apprentice, business partners etc. And I'm sorry to point this out nonas but realistically speaking, genuine male-female friendships are not only rare, but kind of a meme irl.

No. 470792

>>470769
Nahida and scara having the same age and level of a maturity is the elephant in the room. Yes, physically nahida is a shitloli, but the people who ship them together aren't like completely delusional because if you take away nahida's appearance, the ship kinda makes sense. The only aspect that stops most people from shipping them together, is nahida being a potato loli. Visually, this ship looks extremely gross and disturbing and the writers were capitalizing on this. But if nahida looked like a regular genshin girl, this shit would be considered as having romantic potential very fast.

No. 470800

>>470792
I see ship art of them and they just hit Scara with the shota beam so it looks like two kids dating. I thought it was kind of cute, I guess.

No. 470822

>>470682
They don't want more male five stars in Natlan.

>>470702
I think this is why some of the more fun, in my opinion, yaoi is ones not corpo mandated and where people ship characters because of potential or strength of personality. The fandom needs to spend less time arguing about what's "implied" and just let people do whatever they want. In this way I feel like older game not spoonfeeding was more interesting since what they do spoonfeed is very bland and safe. Even Arlefuri became nothing but the same stale yuri fluff after Arle was defanged. We had a nice brief moment of the dark fanartists going to town but of course Hoyo can't write yuri that good.
> Initially we barely got actual cast interactions and that got better overtime but still it feels almost forbidden to have a male character to have an actual important relationship with a female character and that be displayed onscreen.
This is the same fanbase that couldn't have Childe and Yoimiya interact without people crying on both sides about being cucked. I don't care that much for m/f ships so no ships being canon is fine by me, but then when you see people throw tantrums about the simplest of interactions you can predict the story so far. People hoping that Skirk will interact nicely with Childe are deluded, they'll undercut him to sell her. But these decisions that are obvious to people who know how gacha works gets rewritten in fandom as happening only because it's "best for the story". Likewise you'll see less of Scaramouche interacting meaningfully with Nahida since this broke incels brains. They couldn't even let him be in the picture for her birthday event. I don't know why Hoyo even bothered putting them together if they're going to cave to incels and remove him from the story.
>>470769
This is what made me think that Hoyo ship pushing fanservice feels so sterile and corporate. No hate to people who think they're cute, but when I was seeing people say "Finally Sethos can't be shipped with Cyno", it felt pair the spares. People were trying to brother zone Sethos and Cyno to not break up the approved Sumeru ships and the more fanservice they do, the more it also feels like the yaoi equivalent of being afraid to let even the Sumeru guys interact with other guys outside their "assigned ship". So now my problem is that all interactions in this game feel generic and trying to sell you on a ship or trying not to piss off incels, and it breaks my immersion in these characters and this world. Why care about any character anymore when you know how they'll end up? You know no one will be truly that flawed. You know if a male and female character are related, they're going to make the sister the pure girl and the brother the mastermind trying to protect her. You know male and female friendships will be sterile and offscreened, and that the company mandated yaoi and yuri will be safe and tame. What's there to be attached to when the company itself limits your own imagination?

No. 470824

>>470822
>You know male and female friendships will be sterile and offscreened
male and female "friendships" don't exist, incels have a point

No. 470844

>>470824
Yeah, in real life. It's a fantasy game; you can write whatever you want and the point is that the writers are choosing to project their dating insecurities instead of making up interesting fictional dynamics for their own sake.

No. 470849

>>470824
But this is fiction, you can make as many f/m friendships as you want. There’s no way they’d make Cyno a rapeape or whatever so why not let him be besties with Dehya, Candice, Nilou, etc. Hoyo just likes to keep characters in a thin box just close enough to others but never enough to form any real bonds aside from the Hoyo assigned ship and of course their loving relationship with the traveler. I wish Alhaitham got to have friends outside of Kaveh. Every single thing out of his fucking mouth is Kaveh. He doesn’t even get his own birthday, it’s just married couple baiting with Kaveh. Can he speak to Tighnari or Candice or Faruzan?

No. 470856

>>470844
It's not the writers. A "meaningful" well written male-female friendship means the audience will treat it as semi-canon because you can't remove real life aspects from a gacha game. There are plenty of straight ships that are not canon, but treated it as such by the fandom, an example being mustang and riza from fma. It's just fantasy is not a good excuse, we as humans interpret fictional dynamics based on our own experiences and what we were exposed to. This is why some people will say shit like "she's a lesbian, he's gay" because they know deep down claiming they're both straight and just friends would be ridiculous. At the end of the day it would be just shipfag territory, and they will get in shipwars with fujoshi.

No. 470857

>>470849
>I wish Alhaitham got to have friends outside of Kaveh. Every single thing out of his fucking mouth is Kaveh. He doesn’t even get his own birthday, it’s just married couple baiting with Kaveh. Can he speak to Tighnari or Candice or Faruzan?
This but with Kaveh. The man is supposed to be an architect, surely he's able to comment on the buildings and architectural styles around Teyvat? Like how the devs have Charlotte go around to interview other Genshins for scoops and whatnot. But no, let's keep him as Alhaitham's onahole instead, because Hoyo men are only good at creating fujo/yume bait and aren't allowed to exist outside of that.

No. 470859

I doubt anyone will say in good faith that they enjoy male-female friendships, don't kid yourself. This is just shipfag cope

No. 470879

>>470857
My schizho theory is that Mihoyo sacrificed Alhaitham and Kaveh on the alter of fujos (to the point were they are each other's only defining character trait) so that they wouldn't have to make another fujobait in Genshin again.

No. 470882

>>470879
Idiot who can't read the character stories. Both kaveh and alhaitham have backstories, and kaveh doesn't even appear in the main story quest in sumeru, leaving alhaitham a lot of time to develop on his own. And kaveh got his own thing too, and has multiple friends, he interacts multiple times with faruzan. He has official merchandise with nilou. Kaveh is actually the heart of this ship, despite being only a 4 star. You're just mad because he and alhaitham have more scenes together and more chemistry than the average genshin fujo ship lol. Let me guess, you shipped alhaitham with cyno or dehya and got mad when kaveh made his appearance? You're mad because kaveh is the only character who makes alhaitham more interesting and entertaining, because on his own he's a boring and plain stoic gary stu, despite all the amount of screentime and character interactions he gets?(Fujosperg outside containment)

No. 470887

Like if you want a boring forced fujo ship with plain toast dynamic, that's obviously cyno and tighnari, but alhaitham and kaveh have comedic appeal, they're the only fujo ship in genshin with funny dialogue and a stronger backstory (other than kaeya and diluc). I think it's weird how you guys only have a bone to pick with them, when there's other ships that are 10x worse and less developed. Ayato and thoma are boring, itto doesn't have any good fujo ships, zhongli and childe is a deluded fantasy, neuvilette and wriothesley don't have enough interactions, baizhu doesn't have a fujo ship, kinich is literally on his own etc. Alhaitham and kaveh are the only ship where the writers put a bit more effort. Now you have a problem with ifa and ororon, just because fans ship them.(Fujosperg outside containment)

No. 470890

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Are we really going to spent the rest of the thread in a fujo vs yume samsara

No. 470896

>>470890
2 years have passed and people here still seethe over alhaitham and kaveh and muh fujo pandering, when there's other worse things in game. fuck kinich can't even be shipped with anyone other than mualani because natlan doesn't have any other short male characters!(Fujosperg outside containment)

No. 470898

>>470822
>They don't want more male five stars in Natlan.
X doubt. Ifa is shown prominently on 5.5's banner but isn't playable, just like how Chasca and Citlali were before they were released.

No. 470906

>>470882
>Alhaitham is a boring Gary stu and Kaveh is the only important one of the ship who gives Alhaitham meaning
>Alhaitham had plenty of time on his own to develop and he is an individual character, with his own backstory
All I said was that I wish I got to see Alhaitham speak with more of his friends, who the fuck was mad about Ifa and Ororon?? I don’t have any issue with the ship, I used to ship it, but I just want more of Alhaitham and his lore ALONE. It’s like all genshin fujoshi have ptsd and must write a paragraph worth of schitzobable to justify a shitty company manipulating them for more free advertisement.

No. 470907

>>470882
Calm down anon, it's not that deep, I don't ship Alhaitham or Kaveh with anyone, I don't dislike them either, I just said it was a schizo theory I had.

No. 470909

I just want to see Kaveh, Neuvillette, and Ororon with their tits out. Kaveh would build a house for Lumine, Ororon would grow food for her, and Neuvillette would be the breadwinner. Hoyoverse is too cowardly to make this a reality.

No. 470923

>>470906
The haikaveh fujo always has a meltdown as soon as you dont worship that bland ship

No. 470970

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>>470909
And then Diluc helps with the garden, while Ifa tends to the animals.

No. 471095

Childefags: here is how we can still win

No. 471126

>>470890
I don't even know how my post ended up inciting this debate all over again. I genuinely just want to see better and more meaningful character interactions and the very clear wall between the character's gender get in the way of it. I don't think showcasing a brother/sister dynamic between Scaramouche and Nahida or a master/apprentice one between Skirk and Childe should be considered ship bait. I hate that because some 5 weirdos will ship anything that just exists in the same vicinity as each other we are denied good characterization. I'll stop with this topic now, I'm sorry y'all.

No. 471202

>>470970
Thoma will be the cook and housekeeper, Alhaitham will be the accountant, Baizhu will of course be the doctor, Itto will be manual labor, Wriothesley will be on guard duty, and Childe will hunt and fish. I'm unsure how Ayato, Kaeya, and Zhongli will fit into Lumine's tall man harem compound. The default is for them to be tied up in the basement for sex, but I'm open to suggestions.

No. 471222

>>471202
Zhongli provides helpful support with building by creating masterfully detailed gates of solid gold. When not forced to fuck for Lumine’s entertainment, Kaeya helps with her personal horse stable as cavalry captain, and Ayato acts as the scheming advisor to Neuvillette.



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