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Take a shot every time an indie says some shit like this and cancels a stream
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the indie scene is just full of virgin degens that are way funnier than obsessing over weird minor details of senzawa's personal life imo
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Holy shit, isn’t this illegal or something? It’s quite literally a reskin. https://www.twitch.tv/kulfiecreme
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She recently updated her model. Probably caught some shit from cover.
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I wonder how Gura feels about videos like this being made of her.
Same for covercorp in general.https://twitter.com/jas_the_gews/status/1348333993280720896?s=19
this shit is too funny kek how can a native english speaker say spic instead of spikes is beyond me.
Its like saying nigga instead of niagara it makes me ctfu
Gawr "put a head on a spik" Gura lol
But seriously, why are weebs usually white male conservative? Litt Gura or vtuber in general has nothing to do with white supremacy stuff whatsoever. It is all japanese anyway~
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used an audio plugin and Shifted the formant (effectively the larynx size) of senna's 2013 update from her soundcloud by 2.5. guess who she now sounds like:https://www.mediafire.com/file/vyvilwc0ru4gh9c/Senna.mp3/file
Original soundcloud link: https://soundcloud.com/bd9567
i didn't shift the pitch. i shifted the resonance of her voice (formant). pitch shifting wont work esp with karaoke since you will be hearing your own voice + pitch shifted voice and that will throw off your singing. So i figured out that it was probably a formant shift.
tl;dr: yep it's a voice changer.
if you watch different sen clips, her voice changes drastically esp vs earlier clips>>131696
yep. with hardware. Look up the tc helicon voicelive.
also sage your posts.
Defending a literal who is a dead giveaway. Don't use this thread to self promote your ugly models and boring ass debuts.
It's not like as if she is with them IRL and holoEN travelling to japan would be highly unlikely. Mori lives in Japan for a long time and Kiara the white idolweeb was in Japan the whole time too, hoping COVER would allow her to live there with working visa, but they told her to fuck off. Ame, Ina and Gura are fine sittin at home in their countries.
I can see voiceediting trick happening because every communication happens through discord or other PC apps. But in order for >>131688
anon to fully convince us on that, anon (or someone else) should make more comparisons. Id suggest making a video with audio, throwing it on dropbox and uploading it here.
Yes, from BrownBeeTV to Senz to Gura, every tone is different. I guess that's for aesthetic as well as not to get recognized irl. Again, we need to separate her character from Senna Howard herself. Character =/= voice actor.
Ame also used it, you can see the vast difference between her twitch voice and vtube voice. The only one I'm sure not use it is Calli. Calli's voice is really similar to DemonDice persona and her irl voice in concert.
LOL, someone commented on 7 years old archive; a week ago. Looks like she would become self conscious more.
I noticed Gura sighed or doing tsch~ sound when there's some chats saying 'do chest reveal' on Today RDR2 stream. I wonder if she discovers this board too, since I also saw someone link this board in one of her comment section.
This is her singing voice 7 years ago. https://soundcloud.com/browndog9567/do-you-want-to-build-a-snowman
As you get older, your voice would usually get lower too right so it doesn't really make sense your voice get 'lolier' by the time you reach 21 yo. Also, she still sings good.
Of course she's changing her voice, just like a lot of Hololive members do.
I don't see any indication that any technical help is needed for that though.
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Found it in reddit, is this Joel, the Gura's BF on RFA stream?
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In all fariness Kiara is not too good at it either, but she keeps stroking her ego and desperation to keep being "niihon idol". In the past she was a fugly white idol in Japan who was milky as hell, and throughout this day still remains to be one. She would talk a lot of shit about others in public, including Venus and would send anonymus hate. She also started sleeping her way to stay in Japan eventually, later then posting pay2get nudes and showing pictures of herself in bra. Most of the milk about her was on pull or old cgl boards so now its a bit hard to find everything, but that bitch still remains to be toxic
and fake kek. She would make puppet account on pull to wk herself or wk herself on imageboards, so no wonder she started pretending to be a whiney menhera to earn the worst fanbase out of all holos (redditors who post gore to wk their queen and argue with jp, trying to turn people against other holos). She has such strong ego that she even made a wiki page about herself just to have it nuked later. And through all years shes always been known for doing "I CRY IM SO SAD I HATE MYSELF" for money and attention which she keeps doing now. She cant sleep her way to get more subs in hololive, so she leeches off yuribaiting and making her useless talk show instead, inviting only popular holos and making shitty interviews about things that even newfags know.
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If you scroll past threads you could see her previous (and still existing) persona kek
It kinda sounds like her, but you'd think that she wouldn't change her voice, considering that everyone knows she's senzawa by now.
On another note, do people not get tired of spewing the same bs about Kiara over and over again?
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>>131753>>131755> newfags will never know how milky Keekity is because they never browsed cgl or jp idol internet
I have never contributed in Kiara posting in previous thread, but if you really want to do more milk research on Gura, please, go ahead. I just wanted to post what I know. I really do not mind and encourage more info about the new sharkgirl, but it looks like as if theres only one person who actually posts something interesting about her, while others are sitting there and waiting. Help poor anon out!
Picrelated is artemis's weird friend.
For oishi tinfoil I can't care less about their content because it all looks the same to me, especially half of holoENs being nothing but twitch girls with anime avatar.
Or like any of the previous Keekihime boards from the last 5+ years, the problem being, people blast Kiara for the previous antics of Keekihime.
It's kinda unfair and irrelevant a lot of the milkier stuff about her happened when she was a teenager. so far as Kiara she has been clean. People make mistakes but dredging someone through their past mistakes is pretty wack.
Also for her in particular, there's a lot of people blowing stuff out of proportion and running with narratives. People just hate her, its pretty tiring to look at.
Lucky for you the guy on /jp/ posted 2 links and only one died.
That being said Nagu's clips don't tell all that much since she's the opposite of milky and her artstyle isn't something that can be crammed into your arm.
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I honestly don’t see the problem with this you’re going to look like another character just accept it. I don’t why they think it’s offensive to them.
EN VTubers don't really appreciate that anime is derivative by design and the only way to set yourself apart visually is to be like a big troon elf or a dog or a devil like Nijisanji people do
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Half of the Vtubers responding do look like other characters from anime and other Vtubers. If you choose to be a dog Vtuber you know exactly who you’re going to be compared to.
Because game streaming is never about the games. It is about the person playing it, an entertainer.
If you are trying to get into the story, you play the game on your own.
Yea, but it would be painful tho. Eventually, the player would just get confused and make irrational decision or stupid question regarding the game that otherwise could be avoided if she's really into the story. The backseat gamer would inevitably increase because the streamer's action would get into their nerve.
Korone's did a pretty solid job on AC Syndicate stream. Ame also did a decent job at LA Noire's stream. For an experienced streamer, Gura should know better.
What? She played a lot of games, indie or not. A bunch of random 'baby simulator' ones, spammed Dead By Daylight a lot, Eurotruck, etc. There were some story based indie games purely for cuteness factor, but I can't tell the names, you can always find on senz reddit.
She was making and streaming content for a long time, eg she started doing yt stuff in 2016 so she is still supposed to have knowledge. But then remembering how she always fried her brain off weed or beer…
Ame already played LA Noire before, and
the game is already boring enough the first time.
Her character is a detective = the game is about doing detective shit. she probably wanted to play up her character at little bit instead of the toxic
fps shooter that plays minecraft everyday
As you can see they got tryhard wk defending them everywhere. Dumb AND delusional
> Gura is pretending to be less experienced teehee!!> Ame was being dumb because her character is a detective!!
You guys know you can criticize your fave waifus and still like them right? Both of them should stick with Minecraft videos
I mean how old are you?
You know you are still shit in life.
Yep. Idk how to do it but the anon that shifted the formant here >>131688
should do it with the audio of this video as well.
Sounds like she just got better at putting on the voice. Why use a voice changer to very subtlety tweak a voice you can already do?
I mean sure its possible..but it just seems like a lot of work for little reward. Especially since people will find out eventually on an off collab. I wonder if Amelia is going to figure out a way to use hers when the time comes or if she'll just bite the bullet and let everyone hear her real voice.
Afaik pitch shifting changes the key, but formant shifting only changes the sound of the voice while maintaining the same key.
So the kitchen utensils wouldn't sound weird.
I found them on NicoNico, but they are members only.
Sage your post btw
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She could easily use hotkeys, a streamdeck or a professional mixer to quickly switch between modes while playing instruments and talking.
Heck she could even use two audio-channels, the instrument one without filters and the vocal one with filters to change her voice.
And has soundproof board between hands and head so the sound of instrument doesn't leak?
It's funny how people can't comprehend voice acting….especially when 99,99% Vtuber fans saw anime, where are so many examples of voice actors making so vastly different voices for different characters.
I can barely speak moon but there's a lot of ranting about how people who don't work are abnormal (which, kek given his character is 'neet vampire'. Mentions being a student in the clip but does he have a real job now or is he just a streamer?) 3:28 he seems to be doing an impression of a kid he went to middle school with who couldn't talk properly/was retarded. The other guy makes a joke ("Wasn't that you?") then tries to shut him up, saying Kuzuha shouldn't say stuff like that.
Honestly I don't think you're going to get people to care about this. Japan isn't exactly known for caring about disabled people, and western fans would need someone to translate it properly to even know what he's ranting about. That combined with the clip being from 2018 means some people will brush it off as "he's changed!!1!!" because this isn't the first problematic
thing Kuzuha has done and management will be on top of him to clean up any messes now that he's one of the top superchat earners.
I've done formant shifting to the video via Melodyne, it doesn't get any more professional than that imho.
Used the same value as the other poster did before, for lack of a better idea - neither less nor more came any closer to Gura's voice. Note that the mouth sounds - pop, tchk - goes pretty out of whack even with this little editing.
As mentioned by this poster >>132352
, I find it highly unlikely that she has a separate mic always standing by, turned on, pointed at the ukulele, with no crossbleed.
For the sake of fairness, I'll say that actual pitch shifting is kinda close-ish to Gura, with not near as much distortion, except any background noise would be obviously pitch shifted in that case as well. No combination of the two came anywhere near to a satisfying similarity.
In my opinion, this is straight up conspiracy theory tier, and I feel like an idiot spending time on it.
Thank you. So this is not the only problematic
thing he has done? This sounds milky, what else has he done?
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He has a reputation for being toxic
in competitive gaming, but like >>132441
says you're not going to get anyone to care. People are already aware of it, he was like that before he got hired by Nijisanji, and his fans will drown out anything that doesn't get covered up by management.
If you're going to say stuff like that at least provide screenshots or links to the rumor or something.https://idahotvep.org/kanae/https://www.documentation-provence.org/kanae-vtuber/
No idea if the abortion stuff is true or not but here's his pre-Nijisanji account at least. The voices are pretty much identical.
And bonus Kuzuha, even if his identity was already obvious.https://idahotvep.org/vamp_kuzu/
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>>132700> jerks off to picrelated and believes that he is doing a great job by coming here and protecting his qweens
Do something useful instead, learn to draw and make your chunnis happy.
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Some people on the other thread were asking about Kuzuryu Io's past life. She all but confirmed she's Teacuppity on stream talking about making graphics for AtoLive (who, by the way, have big mouths.)
A little more digging on the @teacuppity twitter gives you links to her past life as "saint * ル季", a Youtaite. The Youtaite's character looks the same as her Io character, with the same voice as Io's karaoke streams. https://www.youtube.com/c/saintluki/videos
. Channel is also linked to the teacuppity account.
Googling the SaintLuki name gives you her old AskFM with face pics.
so this is all under the assumption that io is teacuppity?
the covers do strikingly sound like her though
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in one of the descriptions she refers to herself as teacuppity, so yep io is tea cuppity>>132786
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this picture is 7 years ago though
apparently ever since this vid https://streamable.com/ur7off
gura got drunk again and ragequit some stream and bailed on another? sena got blitzed and can't stay away from the bottle huh?
She got the subs by making the video where "youtube-kun killed her" because she havent gotten 1mil by the end of the year for which she was pushing after 7yrs of her career. People assumed that her Nyanners persona is actually dead but shes been waiting for 1mil to hit so she could give the "continuation" of this video.
I personally always thought she was always better than LilyPiсhu but after Nyanners became a vtuber she changed for worse. Still, as for yt ogs she was the best cause of her singing voice.
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indie vtuber doxing coco? not sure if this is a joke but saw it on my timeline, post already deleted so screenshotted just incase
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Recently there was drama on my TL from hoshinochar and furuya mari for ripping popular vtuber designs without credit.
I read recent twitter replies to Mari and in a now deleted tweet, it accused her of running away from her past, which prompted tweets in pic related.
After digging through Mari's tweets, comparing the art and timelines, I believe this is the ex vtuber shunao who quit the internet last year for falsely accusing someone of rape.
She was a little tipsy and chat was calling her an alcoholic. If she used to be an actual alcoholic and people are spamming it in chat because she's had like 2 glasses of wine I can understand why she'd get salty. She didn't rage quit the stream and she's not back on the bottle, her content's still the same.>>132850
Different strokes? I don't watch her content but her Among Us with 8 Nyanners was pretty funny (It was all people using soundboards of her voice)>>132902
Until Coco riled up the Chinese Antis she was probably the girl in Hololive least worried about "Face dox" since she's got the exact same voice she had on Kson's channel and would do regular webcam streams in addition to her v-tuber persona. Like, I don't think Coco gives a shit outside of her contract with Cover not letting her mention it.
Kson also did no makeup streams too which is pretty much unheard of for most asian women. Like hell, Pokimane acted like it was this massive internet-breaking thing that she posted one selfie without makeup, Kson would start streams with a naked face and put it on during the stream so like I said, don't think Coco gives a single fuck about her face being out there, just autistic fans
nb for replying to myself
I think there's a line between posting clips from V-Tuber's past identities/public socials and literally stalking them to the point they've found out where they went to school and posted their graduation video from the school's website.
That's a whole level of fucked up, turbo autism that causes people to become IRL stalkers
Moona here doesn't look like a 'mix' tho…
I can find like two of that face in the local market in the first two minutes.
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possibly reine based off former twitter accounts that i got from iketog
SoundCloudは「Kimunyu / きむにゅ」
formerly vtuber mia canasyna
formerly utaite on niconico
does art as well
possibly also does cosplaying on events
used to live in malaysia based on her twitter friends pre-2015
age should be around 27 years old as there are talks about her being in college back in 2011https://iketog.com/pavolia_reine_zense/
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howd the mods not immediately ban this kid
The only one I've ever seen annoyed (at best) at it has been Ame during I think a Members Only Mario Kart stream where someone had Sachiowo as their name and wouldn't leave.
Every person who's familiar with Sachiowo knows it's Ame, and the rest doesn't give a crap. Not sure what they try to accomplish.
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classic Artemis causing shit
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Artemis was caught watching Holofes pirated stream too, said they were there to read chat, but it was literally set to emote only mode. Only spends money when she get can attention for it, it's fucking pathetic
This. Now his "uwu fans" will keep spamming asking hololive to collab with this retard, when hololive is always strict towards collabs. He really thinks he can collab with anyone all because pikamee accepted him once.>>133044
during the same day he said something about stealing / pirating others content, saying thats bad just to end up deleteing the tweet cause he got called out under it.
Makes it worse the fact that all the pirated stream (but one which was a russian one) were by Chinese trolls who streamed both days just to try to "kick out" Coco from Hololive. The only way you could get it was China-only spam on twitter so he had to actually spend time finding the stream and switching them.
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Hero Hei is currently under fire for calling out Kani Kanizawa for accidentally posting KSon's picture with no context, labelling it as her doxxing Coco. Even Woohoolad is shitting on this guy for allegedly spreading exaggerated information.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqeeKf2WeI
The artfag drama got people looking into her past where they found out she used to go by Aizawa. The group she used to be in as Aizawa had a falling out where she ended up doxxing another member and the leader of the group threatened to doxx Uto's boyfriend if she didn't stop. People have also brought back up the Hololive tags, thumbnails and constant mentions of Hololive she used to grow so quickly. Then there's another person, a musician, that has come out saying he also got ghosted by her. These autistic fucks kept digging and found that Uto might not be a real indie since Nabi, the character designer for Amelia and Uto, only works with companies not individuals.
Its gotten to the point that Narukami and other JP channels have started to cover the drama.
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Some actual interesting Coco related stuff, that's not a complete non-issue like a picture of her being posted.
In terms of being crabby, sure - but no-one here really cow-tips or going through with plans of bot spamming an idol's chat.
Making fun of Artemis for being a dude on this forum where he's not going to see it unless he goes out of his way is a bit different from the months of non-stop harassment in chat Coco gets from CCP-fags, imo
I mean, the whole Taiwan thing was just a means to an end. Their real reason for hating Coco was that she chose not to post on her bilibili account, the only JP member not to do so. And honestly, I don't blame her.
People who actually think that her mentioning Taiwan is what pissed them off are stupid, why do you think Haachama was quickly given a free pass.
the rationale is not so far removed from covid denying trumpian idiots. youknow, the kind that think it's a great idea to storm the capitol. both very similar level unthinking bugmen in my book.
the sheer unshackled weaponized autism on display though is very familiar. at least in chan culture at large.
A lot of the twitter circles they move in are kinda young, ergo hugboxy and liberal tho.
It doesn't matter what other people call her, you can tell from her voice she's trans. Your skull, your throat length and your chest cavity are immutable qualities that can't be changed. Vocal coaching mitigates them a lil but there's a reason a lot of trans people have a "husky" voice.
Think it was also mentioned earlier but she also talks rather gently and tries to avoid, it seems, sudden pitch shifts or massive shifts in volume, since it helps keep her "voice" consistent. (and stops her from accidentally dropping into a more masculine register)
Learn to read>>133125
Previous thread had other speculations her, such as art scam drama, her using hololive tags under her videos and copying holo thumbnails etc.
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Pic from the old thread.>>133270>VShoujo expects to be treated seriously when they have a CGI Barbie model as one of their members.
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So Artia leaked some conversations between HoloCN Staff, Doris and Echo.
Supposedly some spicy stuff in there if you can read moonrunes. Cheating, talking shit about their fans, etc.
And supposedly the reason for this is that after their graduation shit really hit the fan and they turned on each other. The only exception being Yogiri who stayed out of it.
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Here is a summary from someone that dropped it in jp. Can anyone read bug to confirm, looks like there is a lot of milk in these leaks.
>>133450>And supposedly the reason for this is that after their graduation shit really hit the fan and they turned on each other
Sounds like something all toxic
groups do. If everything doesn't go well they blame everyone and everything. They can't handle being wrong in any way
Probably a newfag from 4chan who thought it was funny>>133485
Not impossible but highly improbable. Likely just a troll video of some random woman that sounds similar to her. Retards exist in Japan too
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Keeki just disabled comments on her channel.
Hah, that said I want to ask the odd question here.
What if Keeki is not Kiara. What counter argument can be made?
I'm not a Kiara fan, I watch almost none of her content but I'd gander she gets a whole lot of targeted harassment over what she used to do and how she used to act pre Hololive and I'm sure it stings that anyone in the know harasses her more over that than anything she's done since her debut.
Y'all lying if you don't think you were cringy retards in the past. Milk the cow if she's still being one now but she's mellowed out since her debut and Ollie has the same obsessive personality and gets none of the hate because her life from years ago hasn't been dug up yet.
That's going to happen to every v-tuber the second their identity is out. Fans think it's cool they spent 3 minutes on google and found a face dox and want to feel like they've taken a bite of the forbidden fruit
Just feels like pre-debut milk is the lowest hanging fruit, especially if it's years old but independent vtubers that are still squirting are so fucking stupid they're not worth talking about.
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two days ago Artemis red superchat Aqua seeking attention but fortunately Aqua ignored it and jp chat sweep the EN comments calling Artemis name.
Watame just seems very empathetic, it honestly happens about twice every week. Not always necessarily about something sad like that though.
And obviously not counting this week since she's on a Manager enforced break due to overworking.
Nothing really spicy from this chat log, basically just them trying to find the rat. Mentioned here >>133461
>>133450>So Artia leaked some conversations between HoloCN Staff, Doris and Echo. >Supposedly some spicy stuff in there if you can read moonrunes. Cheating, talking shit about their fans, etc.>And supposedly the reason for this is that after their graduation shit really hit the fan and they turned on each other. The only exception being Yogiri who stayed out of it.
as expected of holocn judas
yeah I remember reading that one of them was innocent RIP
wasn't spade echo the one who got suspended back in may/june because she threw a tantrum and insulted someone?
I archived one of the holoCN girls wikipage when I saw that, pretty sure it was spade
damn nana is cursed with only whores for daughters lmao
the vid was just some woman with legs who sounded extremely similar to matsuri
I don't have the name, but I'm certain I archived it back during the summerhttps://files.catbox.moe/4hhjfo.mp4
Doesn't help much that she lives in Taiwan. I'd love for Hololive to branch out exclusively to Taiwan and maybe bringing her back, but fat chance of that ever happening in the current climate.
Though at the same time I think Hololive is at the point where they don't give a single shit about China anymore. No more CN Branch and no more Bilibili videos (that I know of).
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Apparently some Indonesians I know are scared to dig deeper into her infos because her parents got political and economical connections. Basically, she's privileged as fuck. Below is an information about her.
Keemuworks YouTube custom URL contains a name that links to an Indonesian forum account asking where to find someone that sells PS Vita.
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No idea where that guy got his source from, but following the breadcrumbs from iketog is a lot more reliable
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22yo 6 years ago, around 28 years old today>>132954
so I was pretty much on the spot
that woohoolad faggot is starting shit with herohei for no reason in the comments and on twitter
his videos kinda went to shit in the past few months since I last watched himhttps://www.youtube.com/c/WooHooLadttv/videos
guess woohoolad is trying to cling to some sort of relevancy/his former numbers
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if she really is a "real life ojousama" the first line here is pretty funny.
jesus christ this is cringe as fuck
do women really?
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So for this claim about Froot/BSApricot has been showing up for the last couple of days as a consequence of Silvervale shitting on certain fan comments
If the thing about the Earth-chan store getting scammed really did happen, shouldn't there have been reciepts about that? Thats not even getting to the alleged cheating.
Becomes a streamer. Then is shocked that she has to interact with mongloids on the internet.
Christ grow a tougher skin, you don't see any actual professional vtubers bitch and moan about it.
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Also gonna be my last post about this since it seems relatively boring and mundane, but this archived thread is where lots of people were pointing at when discussing this.https://desuarchive.org/aco/thread/4708702/#4711050
No milk. Something happened to her off-camera during her Pricon stream. When she unmuted, her voice was hoarse and she was sniffling audibly. Rig movements implied she was turning to talk to someone, and she quickly ended the stream.
The re-uploaded version has the tail end cut out, and ends before that point.
After a while, she posted on Twitter that she was alright, but there aren’t any more details on what happened.
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What she's saying matches up with the translation
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From those that watched and can understand her membership stream, they are saying Pekora's manager blocked her proposal for a gaming / prize stream she really wanted to make to give back to all her fans. Probably has to do with Japan's strict laws on gambling / prizes or her manager's retarded. She feels like she isn't doing / giving enough back to her fans and is thinking about turning off Superchats. Then she talked about taking a break until she feels better. *She also said that it wasn't a family death that made her cry and stop streaming in the last stream.
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Anyone have a clue what was in the SC that caused Rushia to meltdown?
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Sage for shit milk, I just found this funny. Athena trying to clout chase, and comparing her saying nigga to Kani's stupid drama upthread.
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Did she think it was that twitter saying it, or did she try to say Karen has no career?>>134274
Yeah, if you felt slighted by what she said you can't handle feeling called out. It was completely reasonable. >>134272>>134273
Actually, or concernfag narrative bullshit?
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Her design is budget Ollie
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Reminded me more of Zon
an ugly tranny used a vtuber model back at AGDQ and the entire run was cringe as fuck even for speedrunning standards
things will only get so much worse from here on out
I mean…? If she is using her normal voice on her other channel, its okay. Her real voice and the voice she puts in vtubing are two different worlds, they are so bizzare that I can't imagine how much pressure she puts onto her throat, and she has long streams.
The only ~ drama ~ was that she left Nijisanji, rumored that happened because one of the cows from niji was bullying her (wouldnt be surprised because same cow shortly left niji just to come back again under same character, also known for being both normally and playfully rude), but that also could be many reasons. Luna is known for always leaving her companies and changing her persona for whatever reason, no one really knows why but she does that really often. So far she stayed the longest with Hololive, and tbh I think she will stay there because she seems to be comfortable there and found a bunch of good friends.
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in the last thread there was someone who posted a sachi mega but the link is down anyone managed to copy that?
and are there any Sachiowo full streams available? just want to rewatch them
I'm pretty sure that Monster Hunter Rise stream got cancelled once she got sick. And she was also talking about being sick on her non-Luna Twitter.
The only thing I know she's done is maybe like a Twitcast. So it'd be quite a stretch to call it drama.
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Most of the time, yeah.
VRoid models can actually be pretty decent if you know how to draw or know what you're doing, especially with the default models and limited clothing that you get.
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care to explain where you see it, and also where you heard it in the song? like give us time stamps on that audio clip if you really think it's real but these are the lyrics from genius.com, maybe you don't know the rap after all
Haha, yea it's a joke just like how he dyed his hair like Jimin back then. There's a reason his model is shitty, generic, and doesn't really potray him physically. So he isn't really serious about it.
Yesterday he said that initially it was a joke but seeing everyone react negatively he plans to troll for a while.
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Apparently a major doxxing Discord server (with over 5k members last I checked) got wiped and POKA_V2's mad salty about it on Twitter. Guy claims he wants to "celebrate past life accomplishments" but all of his uploads feel like he's just shitting on the talents.
Before the server went down the users were already investigating non-Holos like Pochi.
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This Poka, https://twitter.com/POKA_V2/status/1353344561804787713
, faggot is the one that was bragging about getting copystriked by Luna. Their doxx discord server with 8k members got banned, so naturally they started spreading the doxxes everywhere including the official subreddit.
Or you know, they don't give a shit what someone said 6 years ago as a stupid kid like any rational person.
But apparently, people still need to keep regurgitating that she said Nigga a lot on her Twitter that long ago.
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Look at this fucking guy, he's Spamming Hero Hei of all people….. what is this timeline
I joined his discord servers the other day to see what was up, was in 2 of them that only had a life span of 2 hours each and he was talking in vc with people. the guys is a complete retard and speg and he doesn't know even the basics of how discord works and even setting up a server efficiently.
he kept talking about how if their info and pictures are out there then it's public knowledge and discord shouldn't censor him.
I assume they found nothing on Pikamee?
She’s a nobody who came out of working at a fast food chain
lol, there is no milk for Pika.
At least i hope there isn't.
See the difference there though, people deep dove into gura's shit and started doxing her family. not even gura hereself but literally trying to get her family members info. I was apart of the initial discord for a week and nothing was ever released on the same level. The only "iffy" thing was relating to Korone's email.
People went in
on gura, Poka is just literally reposting old PUBLIC vids/pics.
They found hers,her parents and her brothers full names, adresses phone numbers, shit even how long her parents have been married for, Family photos, pictures from a local newspaper, obituaries .
all this was found out because they knew where shes from and that she applied for volunteer work at an animal shelter.
I honestly didn't even know hat these assholes called her parents, but it doesn't surprise me.
Im kinda sick of people using "Public knowledge" as an excuse for leaking shit.
Public knowledge can still be private, especially when dealing with somene who has a huge following
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Wkwk ngakak aja gue mah kalau sampai saat ini masih ada orang yang pakai kata "ingfo".
Sadar dong bos, sekarang itu udah akhir tahun 2020 dan lo masih pakai kata "ingfo'? Haha norak banget sumpah gak bohong, keliatannya lo itu cancer banget, jadinya cringe.
Maaf-maaf aja nih ya, bukannya gue sok elit, tapi ya emang kenyataan gitu mau gimana lagi.
Udah lah bos, jangan pakai kata "ingfo" lagi, gak guna, lagian lo itu udah gede masih aja pakai kata "ingfo".
Kalau lo gak mau keliatan cancer lalu jadinya cringe makanya jangan pakai kata "ingfo" lagi.
Hey, sadar hey.
Apa mau lo hidup selamanya keliatan cancer jadinya cringe gara-gara pakai kata "ingfo" wkwk.
Pokoknya kalau gue liat friends list ada yang pakai kata "ingfo "bakal gue unfriend.
Dikatain sombong? Bodo amat lah wkwk.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Uhh no, everyone who streams hides info relating to their PC/IP etc. It's an unspoken (common sense) rule. No need to try to make her sound like a woe is me princess you need to protect.>>134618
Okay? And matsuri is damn near a sex pest, your point?
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>>134640>jumped off a balcony
I assume this is a metaphor or something. Isn't she streaming as Deltaya now?
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I thought we all knew this by now,lmao
TL;DR:>edgy teen pretends to be a slut on twitter>talented enough to later join Hololive at minimum age>gets doxed, "dildosashimi.jpg", narrative, quits Hololive>actually a nice person, releases an album soon
You are welcome, faggot.
I think she uses vocoder, which does a wide range of transformations, not necessarily, and certainly not exclusively, pitch correction. I don't like it, but it's a style many people enjoy.>>134780
I'll never understand why Aloe is so popular. It must be some weird autistic obsession/social meme. She has such insane fans, it makes my skin crawl.
She wasn't that special and her lewd shtick is pretty annoying and uninteresting. I'm not sure how much of her backstory I buy either.
There's so many other streamers that are far more compelling.
She streamed to 2 digits of fans before Hololive, talking about her worries in regards to becoming a VTuber. Points of content are her mentioning "black practices" in unnamed companies (which are well known), and the circumstances of an ex Nijis retirement (apparently truthfully).
Aloe was given a succubus design for a reason, it's stupid to think the horny teenager wasn't going to go in on the coombaiting.
She talked about how black some of the vtuber companies are and then talked about the Chitsoe / Nijisanji situation. Where Chitose got doxxed and harassed by her hardcore niji fans and quit out of fear. She wasn't talking shit about Nijisanji, but the nijiniggers went full autist and wanted her dead after that twitcast was found. Keep in mind the twitcast video was made a year before she even got into Hololive.
The obnoxious discordfags, that I hate, are a big part in why she is still alive today.
Say what you want about the dumb menhera but she can sing, make songs and most importantly made into Hololive. https://de.catbox.moe/bu8rue.m4a
The whole business model is based on that so nope it is obviously the truth. Vtubers wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't an ever increasing population of lonely rejected men.>>134865
As you said, not mutually exclusive. I would guess it could also be guilt. I can imagine someone suddenly getting ridiculous amounts of money and adoration for realistically nothing in return and feeling guilty about it.
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Apparently a 3k follower Vtuber has traced their model from someone else's art? This girl is popping off venting but refuses to state who it is.https://twitter.com/PolarisVanilla/status/1354737245870166016?s=19
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She can't prove it because it is 100% for attention and clout as>>134885
Aloe fans are most definitely white knights who feel that they're standing up for someone unfairly wronged. IIRC a lot of the reason Towa was so big with western fans originally was because JP fans criticized her voice. So there's a definite strain of savior complex among western Hololive fans.>>134863
Call me naive but I'd think that there are plenty who genuinely appreciate their fans even if some times they can be annoying, can go overboard or there are some who creep them out. It's probably similar to the relationship a lot of small time indie idols have with their fans.
I still remember the fake ass "I'm JP, let me explain the problem to my clueless EN bros." post.
She was targeted because she seemed easy prey. Some Nijiggers jumped onto the bandwaggon, some JPs fell for the lies, ENs were confused.
But she always had the support of the vast majority of fans. Still has 200k subs, after a single proper stream.
Stop being a useful idiot. Even if you don't understand a lick of JP, everything relevant got translated. Even the twitcast was subbed.
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Speaking of literally who's talking about drama and not calling out who they're talking abouthttps://twitter.com/kittyhana/status/1354878597039841284?s=19
Oh my god, you are such a creep. Do you not understand why you look that way?
Aloe streamed once. Sucked what happened to her, but it's not the worst thing in the world and there are many other streamers who get fucked by circumstance.
There was no time for people to get invested in her or build a relationship either. I would understand people being this obsessed over someone like Miko who they had years to become attached to, but Aloe obsession is based on fucking nothing. I think most of it is some kind of weird meme in the community. There is no way even 10% of the people who claim they cry whenever Aloe is referenced in some way actually give a shit or know about her beyond osmosis from other people who also don't know her.
And then there's the actually degenerate stalkers who spent months obsessively talking about her, while donating ludicrous amounts of money to her. And why? Like that other anon said, some kind of savior complex comorbid with other severe mental illnesses, I assume. It's not normal or healthy to be this obsessed with a person based on this little.
Their behaviour reeks of mental derangement and it makes me extremely uncomfortable to think about their existence.
Water is wet
Give me likes
so recently Matsuri cried that people didn't like her shitty apex vids AGAIN
Unsubbed from her back during fall
her pet cuck lyger is feeding her info about what people are saying about her like that whole luna thing>>134999
sums up mentally ill aloefags to a t
Not that it matters, but she was a promising new member and got stolen from us by the Antis.
Sure, the jaded response would be "Eh, VTubers are a dime a dozen.", but if you are that jaded you're not a Holofag to begin with.
EN fans also really like to "stand up for their values", in contrast to JP norms.
Anyhow, Aloe is gone. May that name rest in peace. So if you could cease your slander we can all shut the fuck up.
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/jp/fags are now officially /vt/fags LOL
The second half of the pictured mod post will 100% lead to /vt/fags coming here to shit up the thread with schizo posting.https://boards.4channel.org/vt/catalog
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looks like a fun place
I would like to recommend this thread: https://boards.4channel.org/vt/thread/35
It is a brilliant showing of what 4chan is right now. This is a "he is a tranny" shitstorm where the more sane part of the internet can't even point out he is a tranny since it violates the no talking about IRL rule and they get mass deleted. Absolute state of 4chan. Is it bought out by cover at this point?
I'm more interested in why people think it's somehow hololive's fault that people criticise the budget vtubers.
Holo has its fair share of issues, but EN vtubers are a cesspool through and through.
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Remember that alleged Moona dancing video? She made an oopsie in her last solo minecraft stream.
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lol nice try, watched the whole stream and she was clearly referring to her avatar. (pic related)
Here is what I noticed about the new vt board on 4chan:
-Artemis threads are solid gold where trannies defend the tranny and half the posts are deleted.
-Sachiowo and Senzawa threads stayed up for suprisingly long. Amelia even had a clip of her saying nigger and it didn't get blown up.
Makes me wonder how long it will take for rules: "no tranny shark thread / no previous life threads">>135125
Didn't you know?
You have to be a holodrone to criticise budgettubers. There's absolutely no other reason why one would do such a thing.
if you mention Sachi or Senzawa wait a few hours and your comment magically disappears believe me been there done that
it's been getting increasingly harder to just find old streams like i don't care where they live or who they really are i just want to watch their old streams they are way more fun
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origin YT tittle :
Kepoin Kakak-Kakak ANIQUEEN!｜ANIQUEENの先輩達を色々質問します！｜#NANDAYO - Episode 23
yep it's gone, but i already download it
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is this really irl shark anons? why is she a whale? i thought she supposed to be small and has twig body but turns out she's just your avg fat american burger loverhttps://youtu.be/crnpLmy8qpY
>>135415>Some cringy stuff
Name one example of a vtuber backstory that isn't cringe. Genuinely asking.>>135417
Go back to other threads. One anon nicely showed how she uses a voicechanger.
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so far, his own discord chastised him, so as a punishment he did some loli asmr.
not even joking.
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I really like the new 4chan board.
Matsuri strikes me as someone who's just too honest and open with their emotions and thoughts for her own good. Which sure is kind of menheray I guess but I imagine it looks doubly worse given how Japan is (the old idiom about the nail that stand up and all) combined with the confidence and self-esteem issues she has from being fat at a period of her life where her peers would be at their most brutal about that.>>135537
Oh boy so either the mod is someone with some kind of vested interest in Shartemis i.e. a tranny themselves or one of the troonshark's pals. For maximum hilarity the shark himself is a mod.
I'm wondering why is nobody talking about Melody? Look, she's THE worst of v-thots, but everyone seems to see her only in positive light. Let me explain.
>didn't delete her past online history, it's on full display and archived (you should archive it too before her simps start snitching)
>lies about her age and uses a voice modulator to sound younger (26, turns 27 this year)
>lies about her birthday and makes a point out of it by celebrating her made up birthday (actual is August 12th)
>has been camming and selling nudes/porn vids for ~7 years
>made hm porn of her fucking with her bf numerous times
>sucked up to all even remotely popular camwhores, dumped them the moment she couldn't milk more clout (the rest of v-thots should be vary of her because of that)
>an actual stoner, does bong frequently (maybe before streams, unconfirmed but very likely)
>despite earning thousands of bucks in tips every stream, thousands of Twitch subs, Patreon, merch and sponsorship deals still hides content behind a paywall
>scammed and underpaid Digi (look up his twitlonger from December 2020 with screencaps of conversations)
>her "shy and awkward" persona is fake, she is a fucking sociopath
>fake weeb that browses animemes to seem "relatable" and sucked up to anitubers because "ourgirl"
>pretends to be a lesbian when it's profitable, both before and after becoming a vtuber
>fake acting during streams, doesn't actually masturbate or use toys because she knows that her audience consists of virgin weebs and neets who would believe her act
>flat IRL and extremely insecure about it, overcompensating with avatar design and commissioned artwork
A lying, manipulative, greedy piece of shit whore with zero redeeming qualities. There's nothing genuine about her online persona and she's become a vtuber only for money and clout. If that's not milk enough, I don't know what is. Seriously, fucking cheating scammer Froot got more milk than her here it seems.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Wait so you mean she's not actually a 3d anime girl???? She even has a life beyond vtubing???
She goes nude on camwhore sites as a vtuber and irl??? This is scandalous. What's next you're gonna tell me she doesn't look like her avatar?????
Didn't you read the worst of all?
She smokes pot
I assumed she was 40yo, fat and disabled. Not even joking.
Instead she's a random whore with a below avarage face. Does anybody care?
So a thread dedicated to going through dirty laundry of vtubers, savouring everly little fuckup they did x years ago before becoming vtubers doesn't give half a flying fuck about an actual piece of shit because "she's an irrelevant camwhore"? Are you fucking kidding me?!
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And I can never get hard to it again…(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
>>135578>fake acting during streams, doesn't actually masturbate or use toys because she knows that her audience consists of virgin weebs and neets who would believe her act
Now that one makes me sad. Is anything about vtubers real?>>135593
For what it is worth I am enjoying it.
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What I posted was the tip of the iceberg nobody seems to care about. That is the information available from a ten-minute google search. And the lolcows of all people don't find it interesting at all? All the juicy fuckups of lying sociopathic camwhore? Shame on you all, anons. Shame on you.
I had a mild chuckle. But yeah her being a failed amateur pornstar is the second thing that comes to mind once you sit down to think about who is behind the avatar.>>135611
Go on. I am listening. The only thing I found is that it is a "they".
You clearly have some sort of grudge here, so why don't you get your hands dirty yourself and come back with some actual milk? Also>Professional diggers
I don't have a personal grudge. I'm just confused nobody brought up something that was on the surface for almost a year. Yes, I overreacted and made it seem like a big deal, but only to draw interest to it. Just because you specifically aren't interested doesn't mean the rest are indifferent.
Also yes. If anons have managed to find old and obscure info on vtubers, that's "professional digging" to me.
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Stop screaming everywhere you go for someone to do your work for you, it's embarrassing. At least show some kind of evidence to support your claims. Good luck not being homeless btw, Tari, Marie, HPD or whatever the fuck. Saged for reeing at a 'literally who'.
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What a fucking dumbass
This is some prime meta milk.>>135627>Deadname
What? It is a tranny? And it is admitting it is a tranny? This is surreal. I hope it is it's idea of giving false information.
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Made a music video about some kid getting fucked by 3 adults, deletes it and says she actually hates lolicon, proceeds to make lewd content with a loli avatar.
her mom is a CEO of a well known company but yeah the indonfags are just too damn autistic and too dumb to cover their own tracks
t. indon hiding behind 8970 proxies
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>They spot the name, the fame, start shaming and raising their brows>All like "Easy for you to say, Little Miss Company Hire">As if these moves did not take heartache>And these tracks are not fire!>As if this back did not break over and over? I near expired!>As if a million skeletons hit that "Subscribe" for satire!
Target audience is already up in arms, completely missing the point. Hook line and sinker, masterful bait.https://twitter.com/dumplingshirara/status/1356104705294786563https://twitter.com/CriticalReikan/status/1356116616262479872https://twitter.com/caiokendx/status/1356098236109500421
Lol they really miss the point, huh?
I mean look at Suisei's history when she was an indie.
>She made her own character>Rigged the live2d model herself>Wrote the lyrics of her first song>Edited the video on her own
and these "vtweeters" just complain and can't even do half of what she did.
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It already started, kek.
"Luck factor" my ass, it's not like they picked a rando in the streets and said, "Here you go, a million subs"
You start with a name, yeah, but you gotta live up to it, if you're not entertaining enough, you are fucked.
ok so corporation improve things by 10x i'd concede that sure
but saying "she would be at best at a couple thousand" when she already had over 100k seems a bit disingenuous
I am not saying you are wrong.
Luck also not a factor as well.
I would say opportunity might be a better word for this situation.
Talent only will not be enough to grass popularity.
Marketing, strategy, approach bring upon major contribution as well.
I do not deny, she is doing good in her field. But remember behind the scene people also helping with the progress.
If you can give one person who has pure talent, success in a very short period without any help from anyone. I will take my word back.
I am really interested to know that person.
Every vtweeter talking this like Cali popped up out of nowhere as if 3 minutes of digging won't reveal her work already being put out there before Hololive.
How many people do they think applied for the EN auditions? You gotta have at least something that makes you stand out from the rest.
It is women.>>135749
It is women.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
To be fair, she only had 11k followers back in March before holo en’s debut https://web.archive.org/web/20200323050227if_/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK0efN6mG-J8gv9Qq-MHGPA
Corporate makes things 100x Bigger
The music is terrible, if you can even call it that. But because she's a Vtuber now it must be called "Great music" or else you'll receive backlash from simps.
It's funny how a literal WHO band gets a modicum of fame through Hololive and suddenly that band that nobody cared for is suddenly great.
I don't care about Karen either way, but these people annoy me.
Success usually requires hard work, talent and luck. Saying Karen just got lucky is stupid, because she's been working on a career in entertainment for her entire adult life and sacrificed for her dream.
Of course there are many people who work hard and never get discovered, but that doesn't invalidate the effort of those who do. You can't succeed without at least trying.>>135726>Debut TBA
An another Anon said, a bunch of vtubers who do make their own model and rigging, having no money is no excuse. >>135729>she says there's people who produce no content, but I'm producing content
Then maybe she isn't talking about you? >>135758
Maybe other people simply have different tastes than you. I don't like her music either, but people genuinely love far worse things.
This whole discussion about effort and luck is retarded just as it is in any area in life. HololiveEN might not have even blown up like it had if a random mutation in a pangolin hadn't disabled the entire world.
To think it's not luck to have happened to have auditioned for the English expansion in a franchise which would massively benefit from a pandemic which had not yet happened and virtually none of the average populace ever foresaw happening…
The only real way to approach life is to put a concerted effort into a creative project which has a small chance of being wildly successful, and no more than that. There's no more effort to it than that, since doing so is a waste of time.
The VTuber who is working at mcdonalds to pay her bills is retarded. Any VTuber who spends half her day tweeting on twitter is retarded. Any VTuber who starts without having money or skills to fall back if they fail, is retarded. If you don't understand this game, you're retarded. You might get lucky too, but at least I have a house/money/friends if whatever I'm working on in my free time does fail (NEWSFLASH most things fail).
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this person thinks being a shit head with a wrong opinion will make them viral, hate =/= views , and i haven't seen anyone agree with their opinion.
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i have never interacted with this person lol, Blockchain Calli followers? how you gonna "go viral " if you alienate you're whole audience jesus.
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This person didn't like being called out so all of a sudden their bullshit was just "an ad" for the stream, as shown here.
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just checked their srteamsand jesus christ what a bad person, i maybe committing lolcow suicide but i don't care if a streamer is trans if their content is fun. but this kind of content is objectively cringe and not fun. Thier streams consisted of a hug box of about 4 people.
either language barrier or just conflict in schedule.
but we have seen pekora and moona collab and amelia collabing with both roboco and mel so it's probably the latter.
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Reading this OP it is hard for me not to think Sydsnap created that thread herself. At least she could have been subtle about it.
holy shit, you're stupid, not anyone can write music, especially not the mouth breathers that are triggered
by Calli's song.
DING DING DING
you are a Jilted VTWEETER .
Go actually fuck yourself.
IM SORRY A SONG HURT YOU SO MUCH.
You don't have to be a Vtuber to know this cunt is being petty af>>135813
by Karen's "music," just triggered
that a talentless bitch has this many brainless losers following her. Karen couldn't write good music if her career depended on it
she literally made a song about shitting on wannabe vtubers who dont make and effort. Not aspiring Vtubers who have goals.
you might be a bit too stupid, or the target audience of the song to realize .
>>135817> I hate her because she literally applied as a joke and got in, while being a talentless cunt with a huge ego
Oh, so it's envy then. Imagine seething because a white girl rapper larping as an anime girl is popular and is telling lazy twitter clout chasers to apply themselves and actually make content. I've only watched her a few times but she seems very humble and almost shocked that she got so popular.>but if someone isn't popular and has been trying for years, it's probably because they're not good>and filled a spot that people with actual talent could have filled
By your logic, anyone who didn't make the cut or isn't popular are talentless hacks. >>135822
She's not shitting on indies at all, she's calling out the TBAs who spend months doing nothing but shitpost on twitter thinking they're gonna get tons of clout and whine and make excuses instead of actually doing something I honestly blame Shartemis for that mindset, but those types would still be lazy clout chasers anyway. She has said she's supportive of people doing anything as long as they're doing their best and making content.
If the cap fits…
She does seem an unlikely candidate for a VTuber, which makes her a fine addition to Hololive. They don't need 30 carbon copies. Call her a gamble, so far she is winning handsomely.
>>135826>Oh, so it's envy then.
Yeah, no, fuck you bitch. I'm just tired of seeing talentless losers getting famous. I don't envy the Kardashians and I don't envy this bitch. Try again.
>By your logic, anyone who didn't make the cut or isn't popular are talentless hacks.
NO. You absolute fucking moron. I'm saying people who spend years working their ass off for no crowds are probably not seeing a rise in fans because they're not good. I'm not shitting on people who are talented and not famous.
Literally 90% of Holo talents are women that put effort on those things by themselves before getting in the company.
go back to >>>/pol/ jack off to trannies incel
Don't even need to pay money, Leon and Alice's old avatars were made from scratch and there's a Japanese indie whose live2d was drawn in MS Paint. PNGtubers are also a thing and Calli's "homiemoon" stream showed her as a cardboard cutout bouncing around when she talks to prove that you don't even need live2d to work.>>135901
The real lolcows were the posters we met along the way.
I dont get why are you reacting like this.
The song was dissing are the vtwitters. If we compare it between Mori and vtwitters, even if its not 100% . . . Mori still put way more effort than them. I dont get why you are sprouting these useless stuff.
Why do I feel like you're being defensive and triggered
Really? I havent seen posts like that. Tbh my bad. I judged her by the way they handled their lewd podcast where ironmouse was the purest attention starving cringeloid.>>135948
Thats the first post which screams " i am a jealous indie" lol! > not wweawwing makeuppp
Isnt she a tomboy? Fuck off.
What's preventing you from enjoying them?
The fact that they're human?
The idea that people donate just because they want to fuck an animated character is retarded.
If that's the case, then why do male twitch streamers get donations?
Use this opportunity to learn to appreciate and love actual human beings?
Does it really make a difference if she is 36 and divorced with children?
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Welcome to the bruh zone.
Probably multiple reasons. Due to sheer amount of viewers she has, there are a lot of Twitchtards which might not mingle well if it's on another channel.
And she might feel insecure about her Japanese, which if I were to guess would be on par with Ame.
But Ame doesn't really care about the language barrier. Which honestly outside of a few awkward moments has worked out well for her.
Butthurt nobody VTuber detected
You can relax, it's probably not even directed at anyone - Karen just wants to play at being a rapper
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Furuya Mari talks about "unfortunate incidents" in 2020
"Saying 2020 was stressful is definitely undermining how much crap I went through this year" https://youtu.be/SRPNCiinbbs?t=2333
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draws fanart of her alleged "rapist"
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She can start brand new, but she's still claiming to be a victim after almost ruining someone's life. For what reason? To impress her bf that she's small and frail?
Can confirm, https://steamcommunity.com/id/solariaqqqqqqq
was her steam as Shunao and if you check Betadood's steam friend list, she's there.
Don't bother, happened months ago and has never been even proven.
Not sure where he gets that they can't stand each other either, but considering he still lives in 2020 nothing would surprise me.
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If you listen to Furuya there's a lot of static and tinny-ness. She blames it on a shitty mic but clearly it's a voice changer. If you compare their laughs, it's the same.
Unrelated but she last posted she would quit the internet, but that was a lie.
I seriously think people overestimate how popular Senzawa was outside of her Youtube channel.
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Not sure what your plans are but here's the last bits of evidence you'd need when it comes to Shunao.
Amelia has said that she's bad in collabs because she gets really nervous.>>136143
She was streaming to 1-2k viewers on twitch and her schedule was basically I'll stream every few weeks when I feel like it. She could have made it as an indie if there was someone to force her to stream and put out videos regularly.
She literally had 800k on youtube, sang shit for belle delphine and was one of the first "vtubers" in west and always had at least 1k viewers per stream. She straightforwardly "hinted" that its her before and during her debut, which is one of the reasons why she gotten 1mil so quick, not counting her
A) bein in holoen
B) being both loli AND a shark which japanese love
What did shunao do to corimon?
And shunao/Furuya Mari hasn't learned anything, she's still acting holier than thou. She's been accused of plagiarizing other vtuber designs but says "haters go away". She has a streak of self victimization and curating a "uwu loli girl" persona. She shouldn't taint vtubers with her impure dick sucking. She doesn't belong in the vtuber community until she realizes the severity of her selfish actions.
This “apology” sounds exactly the same with the gcyoshi twitlonger
A lot of deflecting and minimizing. Furuya Mari / Shunao /Lyn whatever fucking name she goes by now is a garbage human
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HER HEAD
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So betadood says Shunao “quit” the internet because of stalkers. But she is becoming a vtuber, which arguably creates simps and stalkers.
Is betadood a cuck?
OH thats right she's half latina so her name must be Consuela instead right? kek
There are literally VA auditions with her full name credited, you're just shit at finding information it seems.
That was week 3 HoloEN, the fuck are you talking about?
Ame started it off by dropping a reference to a clip from Gura's original channel about multiple Mouse, Gura later fired back with "Does anyone call you anything weird, like Rebecca"
They've collabed a dozen times since, I don't think either of them give a care people know who their previous identities are. Neither do Calli or Ina.
Ano, anon-kun, but why do sachi clips fall off the face of the planet the second they're posted here then?
Ame clearly gives a shit about her previous life, because she was a classic example of 3DPD.
Absolutely nothing lol.>>136252
It's not self-advertisement, it's a white knight trying to rally people for some reason.
All this guy does is repost shit and advertise himself on imageboards / comments / superchats. Usually gets banned immediately. A bothersome, mentally ill person.
Nothing will happen, because nobody cares.
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What the fuck
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She's the bitch that did the weird tummy trend too.
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Don’t know where you’re getting the idea that she had that many twitch viewers when the statistics are easy to find. She has 1 stream in her last 6 months that maxed out over 1k viewers and that’s the highest, not the average
Is Uto going to come back? Its been 3 weeks and I highly doubt, since she got called out with so much shit including recent past. That also knowing how japanese people just nuke / run away off social media the second they get called out. I wont be surprised if she is already commissioning a new character.>>136425
Shrk was always more popular on yt than on twitch for her shitposting.
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People mainly watched her youtube, no one really cared about her twitch. A month before holomyth debut she had 916k.
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lmao all of you say that like you wouldn't be interested if they gave you a second of attention irl
attention whores or not these are all relatively attractive women, same as the holoEN girls
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forgot to link it
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Holy shit, Apricot looks like Zach (Sneaky) from C9 who ended up openly becoming a crossdresser after he accidentally got busted for having sissy porn tumblr account open. I can't find the exact photo but in his solo smiling selfies he literally looks like her, might have to dig deeper.
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Her name isn’t a secret, there is a bunch of art online credited to her.
Yep certainly an oopsie by the shark but u can't deny the fact That ame started it first by saying the mooses shit. So their technically both at fault imo
Also wtf is this theory bullshits that ame hates gura ?? Stop asumming fags, can't even provide proof. Ame basically confirms gura and her are friends even before holo, they probably decided to join together.https://youtu.be/nsIfqLPtMow
Ame = (asking what's the plural of moose.)
Gurafag = gasp
wtf, that clearly snitch her prev identity. Everyone know that's senzawa thing!
just looking at Gura's reaction when she thought people were saying it's already valentines day makes me think she's already in a relationship. I vaguely remember her already being in one when she was streaming eurotruck a long time ago. wouldn't be surprised if they're still together.
watson hanging out with her for the clout is certainly possible. gura being awkward around literally everyone because she really is that much of a nerd is also not that surprising.
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Ame is the one wins it tbh
U pepega, Ina lives in Canada and Kiara is from Germany or Austria.
Mori is in jp but will fly back to canada sometime
Still not as bad as Zen melting down about the capitol thing though.
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Sorry, I'm just new in this paparazzi board, and well I don't have that much, to know the full story I would have to go to discord and fuck that tranny hell hole
So in short, tsunderia is a "company" where Kana and Purin are members, for some context, Kana is Gura's sister and you could say that Purin is the lost sister of Korone, they had a gen debut this year and Kana announced her graduation to become indie again some days agohttps://youtu.be/VQy0ut00JBk?t=270
This made one of her new ex coworkers cry on stream (probably because Kana was pretty much the back bone of the company and now she has to put more effort into it)https://youtu.be/X-f7f7EtyLI?t=264
The next day, in the official graduation, I don't know if manager or Kana forced them to attend her graduation which you could tell no one wanted to be there and 2 of the members didn't show uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrMfrdddkpo
So… why was she leaving? there were some narratives in /vt/ that pointed that she wanted to fuck off since last year for reasons (probably money and restrictions) BUT, here is where there may be some milk, there is this rumor that things got heated on her discord before the announcement, something about a tranny mod named S-train, he allegedly got mad for some reason with kana and somehow dragged the whole mod team with him and that was the last straw for her and later on she announced her graduation, like I said before, it is in discord and I don't have an account nor want to have one, and I don't know if it's worth it now since probably everything should have been deleted at this point, but who knows, if you guys feel like digging there then those are the crumbs
Did she literally just copy Korones complete stream design?
Man these indies have balls it's not even funny. Makes me wonder why crazy holofags haven't torn her a new one yet.
So what's the deal between Pekora and Aqua ? I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTYTh_eD-0I
and apparently after the collab the rabbit got jealous and doxxed onion. I'm honestly quite interested in this story, if someone has some links to share (like the apparently pubg stream where Aqua cried because of Pekora's raid or maybe an actual photo of her after the leak of her infos, if it's true)
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"Spic on a stick"
Gawr Gura, cozy minecraft stream
Silver plate and Ame doesn't really add up knowing that she said that she was homeless once, left by her parents, and one had nothing to it. But it shows, since her debut; she streams more frequently that the others. I think she work hard for it and not take it for granted.
That if we assume that everything she said is right tho…
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reminder that rosuuri designed these ripoffs
Korone debuted on 2019 march, while no one seen or heard of this aliexpress copy of a dog until last year. I call it bs.>>137133
How many Ame stories are even true? At first I believed it but the more stories she added the less I believe her. They all are better than the other, and a lot of them sound like an internet bait "i licked an eyeball", etc. There is too many of them.
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Purin said in her debut stream that she had this dog OC since 2015 and rosuuri changed things so yeah her mama was the one that ripped off korone
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Tsunderia itself doesnt look like any brand tbh. To me it strikes as some weeb vtuber group full of cringelords and nobodies. Name itself is too weeby to take seriously.
Their new character acts like a tard on twitter. Inb4 its the troon
Both picrelateds are from tsunderia
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Chair said the character design is by @Xeph_Artworks the art beside her current avatar is Xeph's.
To be fair..we know mori is a hardworker because following her before her Hololive stint kinda….shows it. She wasn't exactly a private person and living in Japan, especially as a foreigner, is NOT cheap and to comply with visas etc requires not being worthless.>>137182
Yes..hence why calli roasted the shit out of them and they all got butthurt because it's true.
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Vtubers love to whine about "don't say I look like this person it's really offensive!! Uwu" but literally how can you not compare these
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>>137154>How many Ame stories are even true?
Her dream stories are fake for sure. And that is a good question. Would a tittystreamer make up some stories to get more money from her simps?
After each video
"This can't get worse.">it gets worse
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If this is her, she won't stream for a few days
Are these all from the same stream or does she always just watch random youtube vids? It looks like her socials are pretty new.
Either way, what the fuck.
What the actual fuck
Those are real kids
yeah she is>go to her discord>look at what the fuck she is saying>"she is very weirchamp to me, pog"
I don't speak zoomer but most of her shit is like that
Fubuki – a collab partner, their relationship was especially strong during the time they started growing rapidly on Bilibili. They do not collab as much anymore, however.
Haato – an old collab partner, they used to do “girls talk” streams where they would answer marshmallows, with Haato playing the pure girl and Matsuri playing the straight man. However, this relationship fizzled out by late 2019, and they haven’t done a collab since.>Matsuri and Haato play Switch Together - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkwNhOxewhI
Shion – similar to Haato, Shion used to collab with Matsuri a lot, especially in Minecraft. They had a cute sibling relationship w/ both making fun of the other. Unfortunately, this relationship dried up around the latter half of 2019. These days, they can barely talk to each other without sounding extremely awkward.>Shion and Matsuri sing Shin Takarajima in Minecraft - https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Gt411x7BG
Tamaki – an old collab partner of Matsuri, they were extremely close from 2019 to 2020, with Matsuri frequently consulting Tamaki on matters, and Tamaki even showing up for Matsuri’s 200k 3D livestream. In August 2020, Matsuri cancelled a collab w/ Tamaki to practice with Happy Set , and they haven’t collabed since.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nGqoPfYl6M
Hoshikawa – Matsuri adores Hoshikawa, stating that she looks up to her wishes she was a male just because of her. While Hoshikawa does not dislike Matsuri, she still keeps Matsuri at an arms distance, and for the most part ignores her except when Matsuri randomly donates a few grand on her livestream.
Luna – Matsuri and Luna got very close during the summer 2020, coinciding with Luna’s first 3D and Matsuri’s birthday celebration. However, like always, their relationship seemed to fizzle out by August, and while they still mention each other sometimes, they are much more distant from each other than before.
Suisui – Matsuri and Suisui make a very formidable duo, with Suisui’s vocals and Matsuri’s dancing skills. When you think of an “idol group” in Hololive, an image of these two always comes to mind. They frequently get paired together when Hololive needs to send people out to events.
Tenjin Kotone - A good friend of Matsuri. They occasionally have collabs where they chill on Kotone's Minecraft server.
Possible Future Relationships:
Lamy - They've been out together and shared a few beers, and they seem to mesh personality wise.
Noel - Matsuri and Noel seem to get along quite well, and work very together.
Ollie - She seems to be a genuine fan of Matsuri, but it can also be a ploy for networking.
matsuri has a bad track record, sasuga menhera
> Luna – Matsuri and Luna got very close during the summer 2020, coinciding with Luna’s first 3D and Matsuri’s birthday celebration. However, like always, their relationship seemed to fizzle out by August, and while they still mention each other sometimes, they are much more distant from each other than before.
Anonchaama, chill the fuck out. They had at least 2 collabs over past 3 months and Matsuri still was clingy towards Luna during minecraft sports games.
And this year she couldnt stream too often (especially right now with almost a month without streams because she had problems with her voice, and then surgery). I don't think that theres suspicious going on between them if you actually watch both of them, during summer of course she had to keep distance from Luna because she was developing feelings towards her by being overlyclingy, but few months later they still seem to be fine together. Luna found herself two good friends, Subaru and Choco and shes okay.
Imo i find Matsuri and Hoshikawa weird. Don't know if its that Nijisanji girl, but Matsuri used to have a huge obsessive crush on one.
> When you think of an “idol group” in Hololive, an image of these two always comes to mind.
Akshually, AZki and Sora are the ones who fit the idol image, with Sora being an ex idol irl.
yeh no bro it's a rickroll in 2021 i thought that we grew as a society but apparently not
she has done the same thing as kiara as well and it wasn't funny the first time and it still isn't the fifth
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She doent need OF cuz shes been doing lewd sets on patreon for years now
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since when was she fat, the last good pic I could find was from 2018 there she looks decently skinny tbh
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If this is fat..I'm obese, lmao.
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Depends on how much you like Nagu who is as straight A Asian student as you remember from school.
Kiara's face is as prone to nitpicks as she always is while whatever people have scraped for Gura is wildly inaccurate to the present.
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These are the newer pics after her weight loss. She wasn't exactly "fat" though, just overweight.https://twitter.com/i/status/1125582250773336064
there is a diff between market oversaturation and not putting in any effort into your content.
a lot of indies who are offended think that holo turned her into a vtuber when in reality, holo (or any other reputable company) isn't going to pick up some nobody with no history of making content. yeah not everyone is going to get to a million+ subs but if getting to 1mill is your goal you're in the wrong market.
a lot of them brush off the absolute grinding that Mori had to do in order to get picked up by a company. She didn't just apply and they said here ya go, she had to have some kind of proof that she was worth them putting money into. The company will give you a reach and some equipment to work with, but other than that you have to actually produce and organize your own content for the most part.
if you can't even do the producing and organizing your own content, no one is going to follow you at all.