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>>106239 >>117518>>120215>>124562 No. 131606
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Take a shot every time an indie says some shit like this and cancels a stream
No. 131611
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the indie scene is just full of virgin degens that are way funnier than obsessing over weird minor details of senzawa's personal life imo
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Holy shit, isn’t this illegal or something? It’s quite literally a reskin.
https://www.twitch.tv/kulfiecreme No. 131637
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Uto
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>>131628She recently updated her model. Probably caught some shit from cover.
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I wonder how Gura feels about videos like this being made of her.
Same for covercorp in general.
https://twitter.com/jas_the_gews/status/1348333993280720896?s=19 No. 131665
>>131661this shit is too funny kek how can a native english speaker say spic instead of spikes is beyond me.
Its like saying nigga instead of niagara it makes me ctfu
No. 131684
>>131649Gawr "put a head on a spik" Gura lol
But seriously, why are weebs usually white male conservative? Litt Gura or vtuber in general has nothing to do with white supremacy stuff whatsoever. It is all japanese anyway~
No. 131688
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used an audio plugin and Shifted the formant (effectively the larynx size) of senna's 2013 update from her soundcloud by 2.5. guess who she now sounds like:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/vyvilwc0ru4gh9c/Senna.mp3/fileOriginal soundcloud link:
https://soundcloud.com/bd9567 No. 131694
>>131690i didn't shift the pitch. i shifted the resonance of her voice (formant). pitch shifting wont work esp with karaoke since you will be hearing your own voice + pitch shifted voice and that will throw off your singing. So i figured out that it was probably a formant shift.
tl;dr: yep it's a voice changer.
No. 131697
>>131695if you watch different sen clips, her voice changes drastically esp vs earlier clips
>>131696yep. with hardware. Look up the tc helicon voicelive.
also sage your posts.
No. 131699
>>131667Nice wk/selfpost.
Defending a literal who is a dead giveaway. Don't use this thread to self promote your ugly models and boring ass debuts.
No. 131709
>>131706It's not like as if she is with them IRL and holoEN travelling to japan would be highly unlikely. Mori lives in Japan for a long time and Kiara the white idolweeb was in Japan the whole time too, hoping COVER would allow her to live there with working visa, but they told her to fuck off. Ame, Ina and Gura are fine sittin at home in their countries.
I can see voiceediting trick happening because every communication happens through discord or other PC apps. But in order for
>>131688 anon to fully convince us on that, anon (or someone else) should make more comparisons. Id suggest making a video with audio, throwing it on dropbox and uploading it here.
No. 131711
>>131690Yes, from BrownBeeTV to Senz to Gura, every tone is different. I guess that's for aesthetic as well as not to get recognized irl. Again, we need to separate her character from Senna Howard herself. Character =/= voice actor.
Ame also used it, you can see the vast difference between her twitch voice and vtube voice. The only one I'm sure not use it is Calli. Calli's voice is really similar to DemonDice persona and her irl voice in concert.
No. 131712
>>131688LOL, someone commented on 7 years old archive; a week ago. Looks like she would become self conscious more.
I noticed Gura sighed or doing tsch~ sound when there's some chats saying 'do chest reveal' on Today RDR2 stream. I wonder if she discovers this board too, since I also saw someone link this board in one of her comment section.
No. 131713
>>131700This is her singing voice 7 years ago.
https://soundcloud.com/browndog9567/do-you-want-to-build-a-snowmanAs you get older, your voice would usually get lower too right so it doesn't really make sense your voice get 'lolier' by the time you reach 21 yo. Also, she still sings good.
No. 131714
>>131713Of course she's changing her voice, just like a lot of Hololive members do.
I don't see any indication that any technical help is needed for that though.
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Found it in reddit, is this Joel, the Gura's BF on RFA stream?
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>>131716In all fariness Kiara is not too good at it either, but she keeps stroking her ego and desperation to keep being "niihon idol". In the past she was a fugly white idol in Japan who was milky as hell, and throughout this day still remains to be one. She would talk a lot of shit about others in public, including Venus and would send anonymus hate. She also started sleeping her way to stay in Japan eventually, later then posting pay2get nudes and showing pictures of herself in bra. Most of the milk about her was on pull or old cgl boards so now its a bit hard to find everything, but that bitch still remains to be
toxic and fake kek. She would make puppet account on pull to wk herself or wk herself on imageboards, so no wonder she started pretending to be a whiney menhera to earn the worst fanbase out of all holos (redditors who post gore to wk their queen and argue with jp, trying to turn people against other holos). She has such strong ego that she even made a wiki page about herself just to have it nuked later. And through all years shes always been known for doing "I CRY IM SO SAD I HATE MYSELF" for money and attention which she keeps doing now. She cant sleep her way to get more subs in hololive, so she leeches off yuribaiting and making her useless talk show instead, inviting only popular holos and making shitty interviews about things that even newfags know.
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>>131733If you scroll past threads you could see her previous (and still existing) persona kek
No. 131753
>>131688It kinda sounds like her, but you'd think that she wouldn't change her voice, considering that everyone knows she's senzawa by now.
On another note, do people not get tired of spewing the same bs about Kiara over and over again?
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>>131753>>131755> newfags will never know how milky Keekity is because they never browsed cgl or jp idol internet I have never contributed in Kiara posting in previous thread, but if you really want to do more milk research on Gura, please, go ahead. I just wanted to post what I know. I really do not mind and encourage more info about the new sharkgirl, but it looks like as if theres only one person who actually posts something interesting about her, while others are sitting there and waiting. Help poor anon out!
Picrelated is artemis's weird friend.
For oishi tinfoil I can't care less about their content because it all looks the same to me, especially half of holoENs being nothing but twitch girls with anime avatar.
No. 131768
>>131763Or like any of the previous Keekihime boards from the last 5+ years, the problem being, people blast Kiara for the previous antics of Keekihime.
It's kinda unfair and irrelevant a lot of the milkier stuff about her happened when she was a teenager. so far as Kiara she has been clean. People make mistakes but dredging someone through their past mistakes is pretty wack.
Also for her in particular, there's a lot of people blowing stuff out of proportion and running with narratives. People just hate her, its pretty tiring to look at.
No. 131800
>>131790https://mega.nz/folder/oT5R2Ajb#JmWVhkTYTw_ECWVIVkAe4QLucky for you the guy on /jp/ posted 2 links and only one died.
That being said Nagu's clips don't tell all that much since she's the opposite of milky and her artstyle isn't something that can be crammed into your arm.
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I honestly don’t see the problem with this you’re going to look like another character just accept it. I don’t why they think it’s offensive to them.
No. 131826
>>131825Samefag
>>131821EN VTubers don't really appreciate that anime is derivative by design and the only way to set yourself apart visually is to be like a big troon elf or a dog or a devil like Nijisanji people do
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Half of the Vtubers responding do look like other characters from anime and other Vtubers. If you choose to be a dog Vtuber you know exactly who you’re going to be compared to.
No. 131876
>>131875Because game streaming is never about the games. It is about the person playing it, an entertainer.
If you are trying to get into the story, you play the game on your own.
No. 131884
>>131878Yea, but it would be painful tho. Eventually, the player would just get confused and make irrational decision or stupid question regarding the game that otherwise could be avoided if she's really into the story. The backseat gamer would inevitably increase because the streamer's action would get into their nerve.
Korone's did a pretty solid job on AC Syndicate stream. Ame also did a decent job at LA Noire's stream. For an experienced streamer, Gura should know better.
No. 131890
>>131887What? She played a lot of games, indie or not. A bunch of random 'baby simulator' ones, spammed Dead By Daylight a lot, Eurotruck, etc. There were some story based indie games purely for cuteness factor, but I can't tell the names, you can always find on senz reddit.
She was making and streaming content for a long time, eg she started doing yt stuff in 2016 so she is still supposed to have knowledge. But then remembering how she always fried her brain off weed or beer…
No. 131911
>>131886Ame already played LA Noire before, and
the game is already boring enough the first time.
No. 131980
>>131972Her character is a detective = the game is about doing detective shit. she probably wanted to play up her character at little bit instead of the
toxic fps shooter that plays minecraft everyday
No. 132001
>>131950As you can see they got tryhard wk defending them everywhere. Dumb AND delusional
> Gura is pretending to be less experienced teehee!!> Ame was being dumb because her character is a detective!!You guys know you can criticize your fave waifus and still like them right? Both of them should stick with Minecraft videos
No. 132019
>>132009I mean how old are you?
You know you are still shit in life.
No. 132271
>>132269Yep. Idk how to do it but the anon that shifted the formant here
>>131688should do it with the audio of this video as well.
No. 132283
>>132269Sounds like she just got better at putting on the voice. Why use a voice changer to very subtlety tweak a voice you can already do?
I mean sure its possible..but it just seems like a lot of work for little reward. Especially since people will find out eventually on an off collab. I wonder if Amelia is going to figure out a way to use hers when the time comes or if she'll just bite the bullet and let everyone hear her real voice.
No. 132286
>>132284Afaik pitch shifting changes the key, but formant shifting only changes the sound of the voice while maintaining the same key.
So the kitchen utensils wouldn't sound weird.
No. 132290
>>132274I found them on NicoNico, but they are members only.
Sage your post btw
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No. 132349
>>132328She could easily use hotkeys, a streamdeck or a professional mixer to quickly switch between modes while playing instruments and talking.
Heck she could even use two audio-channels, the instrument one without filters and the vocal one with filters to change her voice.
No. 132352
>>132349And has soundproof board between hands and head so the sound of instrument doesn't leak?
It's funny how people can't comprehend voice acting….especially when 99,99% Vtuber fans saw anime, where are so many examples of voice actors making so vastly different voices for different characters.
No. 132365
>>131861>>132347I can barely speak moon but there's a lot of ranting about how people who don't work are abnormal (which, kek given his character is 'neet vampire'. Mentions being a student in the clip but does he have a real job now or is he just a streamer?) 3:28 he seems to be doing an impression of a kid he went to middle school with who couldn't talk properly/was retarded. The other guy makes a joke ("Wasn't that you?") then tries to shut him up, saying Kuzuha shouldn't say stuff like that.
Honestly I don't think you're going to get people to care about this. Japan isn't exactly known for caring about disabled people, and western fans would need someone to translate it properly to even know what he's ranting about. That combined with the clip being from 2018 means some people will brush it off as "he's changed!!1!!" because this isn't the first
problematic thing Kuzuha has done and management will be on top of him to clean up any messes now that he's one of the top superchat earners.
No. 132379
https://www.mediafire.com/file/aehy9ei7tm0yf4h/Room_Tour_Melodyne_plus2p4_formant.mp3/file>>132271I've done formant shifting to the video via Melodyne, it doesn't get any more professional than that imho.
Used the same value as the other poster did before, for lack of a better idea - neither less nor more came any closer to Gura's voice. Note that the mouth sounds - pop, tchk - goes pretty out of whack even with this little editing.
As mentioned by this poster
>>132352, I find it highly unlikely that she has a separate mic always standing by, turned on, pointed at the ukulele, with no crossbleed.
For the sake of fairness, I'll say that actual pitch shifting is kinda close-ish to Gura, with not near as much distortion, except any background noise would be obviously pitch shifted in that case as well. No combination of the two came anywhere near to a satisfying similarity.
In my opinion, this is straight up conspiracy theory tier, and I feel like an idiot spending time on it.
No. 132394
>>132365Thank you. So this is not the only
problematic thing he has done? This sounds milky, what else has he done?
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Kek.
No. 132509
>>132394He has a reputation for being
toxic in competitive gaming, but like
>>132441 says you're not going to get anyone to care. People are already aware of it, he was like that before he got hired by Nijisanji, and his fans will drown out anything that doesn't get covered up by management.
No. 132605
>>132593If you're going to say stuff like that at least provide screenshots or links to the rumor or something.
https://idahotvep.org/kanae/https://www.documentation-provence.org/kanae-vtuber/No idea if the abortion stuff is true or not but here's his pre-Nijisanji account at least. The voices are pretty much identical.
And bonus Kuzuha, even if his identity was already obvious.
https://idahotvep.org/vamp_kuzu/