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I didnt know about the himepen drama and I'm not even shock cuz the english vtuber commu is bunch of that kind of stuff. Basically old dudes(20's-30's) creating a anime girl(most of the time) or boy to attract other girls vtuber (most of them are between 15-17-18)and act animu. It's bunch of predators and naive prays who believes a persona. Also in those community there is some japanese ppl who act like whatever they are from a celestial planet and everyone is praying them and putting them on a pedestal just because of their asian fever. To check what I'm saying just need to get infiltrate in those vtuber's servers…
I dont like the fact that some weeabs forget the human being behind the moe voice and start act dirty cuz they think it's nothing more anime reacting to their existence. Is it interactive (fake)love?
That community is super fake. It's funny how bigger english vtubers like Mofu and Ewica were silent about Himari despite the information being out there for weeks because it could damage their image. And once her wrongdoings surfaced, they were the first to shit on her, fearing they gonna loose their following.
Not to wk for Hime, she pretty much dug her own grave, but watching them getting ass pats for being "brave" and speaking out about something they knew about long before it became public was just disturbing.
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Yeah and rn she is the main person who subtweets about her (Ewica) and that really shows who she is as a person; not too trustworthy and dramathirsty lol.
I'm really not surprised that someone like Nyanners jumped on the Vtuber hype train. Since Hololive became more popular in the West, the Vtuber community just became more and more degenerate and cringy.
The more popular English independent Vtubers have been lewding themselves to get more money/attention because no one would give a shit about them otherwise (besides them using an anime girl avatar).
That's what makes western vtubers so cringe. Japanese vtubers build a persona with a story and that's entertaining to watch, when most of english vtubers just lazy design a uwu pink catgirl, put on a fake voice, say suggestive shit and call it a day.
A lot have the audacity to cry about being poor in order to milk more simp money, despite spending thousands of dollars on their models and arts. They're no different from regular e-thots
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There's been a thread about vtuber Ayumi Risa, who used a copyrighted character from a mobile game as her persona (live2d model of that character and fanart). The artist that called her out on it had never dropped her name, but she appeared under the callout post herself. After she realized she can't manipulate them into deleting the thread, she made a video victimizing herself. Her fans started to cheer for her and went after that artist.https://twitter.com/AyumiRisaCH/status/1286105873681534977
Summary of the video - "There are countless rumors about me, people are coming to my stream to harass me. I didn't know I was supposed to credit anyone, nor did the artists ask for credit. But I assure you that I had permission. I've been asked to give credit in the chat, and I thought my mods took care of it, but they didn't".
She never brought any receipts for the harassment or permission to use the fanart. She now switched to streaming with a model of her own.
Those two drawings are nothing alike besides the hair, are you guys fucking retarded
Silver hair hime bangs are trademarked now? Lmao
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It all reminded me of munibug who keeps joking about dicks, cum and ordered lewd commissions of her lolichar while also drawing lewds with it. Hell even if you look at her recent medias all of her shit is "horny jail" "cock", drawing of a dick with smileyface. Is 21yo with high pitched shitvoice too.
This art is the least lewd art she drew of her char. Supposed to be a condom lol. And ofc she spams sanrioshit all the time, calling herself baby.
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Because attention and clout. I noticed a lot and especially the smaller ENG VTubers just dive into producing coomer content when they see that they're not growing as fast as they expected. Like is this supposed to be funny?
How is this a surprise, they're people dependent on a certain image for work. I am sure most people are different in their homelife than at work.
That isn't hot goss by any means. Direct shit-flinging is.
she's called mouse because she's a smoll irl loli with a totally natural loli voice uwu!!
Starting to think that her being sick is bullshit, how do you take care of a kid if you can't ever leave your bed.
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She celebrated 15k today, it seems a bit wierd to me to be celebrating when 1/3 of those are bot accounts.
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The weebs found out that nyanners doesn't condone lolishit anymore
She said she was able to go out before
Wasn't her saying she has kid a joke? She's still in her early twenties
Tfw the phoenix chicken is the cringiest one of them all, including Holmes with her medicore design. The way they act on Twitter is the same way as "I am not like the others bcuz i use twitch lingo!! Xd" also chicken is trying too hard to be "one of the boys". My hopes are for Shark and reaper that looks like adult Rushia.
The western VRtubers don't understand that in order to get clout from them they should have done the same thing desperate artists did: drawing a sketch or a doodle so they would RT but they missed their chance.
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Pic related is the only super-desperate scream for attention I've seen so far. Inb4 her or her friends read this, because I know they've been lurking here.
> n-nya i'm an immowtal too >,,< !!
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Honestly the only one who haven't done anything pretentious or cringy is the shark Garu, who is also well-liked even in JP. JP artists seem to draw only her so far and she has the highest sub.
I was really excited for Mori-chan, found her act of not knowing how to use twitter and not knowing what memes are about cute, but then after revealing she played FGO before, she started mixing japanese and english on purpose for quirky points. That was my biggest worry.
One of her examples.
Honestly, the fact how she both
a) does not know what memes are
b) does not know what twitter is
c) plays Fate/grand order
does not add up imo, knowing FGO fandom and the fact how FGO's freebies events tend to ask u to like/rt/follow something on Twitter.
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The amount of salt from people who failed HoloEN auditions is funny as fuck>>111841
You do realize her not knowing what modern internet is is a part of the act right…?
Sharks only popular with lolicons anyway.
Yeah, vtubing is the biggest fad of 2020 and Hololive EN has enough muscle to blow it up even further.
I think the big questions are:
1) which ones have a previous following/work like Noel and Coco
2) which one will fuck up first like Towa/Aloe did
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Anyone knows what univirtual vtubers demanded the boycott?
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Sure enough, she's collabing with the camgirl, loli ghetto, and uwu gcup, and lewding herself out just like them, even with her loli cat girl avatar. Popped in for a few minutes and Nyanners is talking about nipples, wanting dick, and fucking.
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HoloEN Mori is known for saying words such as nigga, faggot etc on her private Twitter that is still open. If you'd like to take screenshots and check out yourself its:
Pic related is how she looks like IRL.
It's been a rumor that Demondice is Calliope for a few days now, but honestly Hololive fandom is full of idiots who pull up random real people profiles to use as shitflinging material against others ("So and so is really this chuuba, your favorite girl is a whore!") and making up similarly retarded rumors.
I wouldn't believe it unless there's some slip up that makes it very obvious who they are like with the last few times someone from Hololive got doxxed.
nta but she does sound very similar to calliope, and is also friends with the guy who produced her (Calliope) song. I'd say it's a good chance, and I'm honestly interested in how this progresses.
starts rapping at around 1:10, if you're interested.
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tweets this right after holoEN debut
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Actually I take that back about Hololive fandom pulling up random people just this once
>inb4 she gets unpersoned like aloe
I'd like to say no, but I just checked Senzawa's twitch and she removed all of her broadcasts, highlights and clips, so I'm not so sure anymore.
Her twitch was the only place where you could hear her talking voice, and now it's completely empty. I only found one video in which she talks on youtube.
I don't know if it's for the contract or it's her own idea to remove all the traces, but it is suspicious.
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Chicken seems like a future lolcow material.
>Starts @ing every successful holo she can on twitter
>Pekora is the first to throw a bone, actually answers
>Suddenly chicken is and has always been her biggest fan, peer-pressures her despite Pekor's common-knowledge disdain of public pressure and not meeting new people on her own terms
>Whips the lowest common denominator of EOPs into a frenzy
>Pekora already sick of it, says she doesn't want to talk about other holos during her stream today
> Also ends up streaming during the same time as chicken just to avoid her
I don't mean collab-wise but debut-wise shark was the worst. She is nothing but a pure cringe on her own who got carried only by singing Ride on Time, if it was anything else but citypop, it would have been considered the worst stream of them all, but people enjoy old music too much. Shark is literally one of those basic twitch uwutubers whose target audience are lolifans. At least in collab shark barely did anything.
With chicken its an obvious attention whore-chan (especially considering that she still has the least subs, thanks to her shitty design), she's even gonna stream with Mori in 2 hours, but I do not care too much about her. She seems like one huge trainwreck who will create dramas or Aloe herself anyway, so she will obviously end up burning herself out with how chaotic she is. She forces herself everywhere, sure, but she still won't be too popular.
God this interaction was stilted and awkward.
This whole project seems like such a mistake. All of these girls have no charisma or presence, none of them stand out from each other.
Mori always feels infinite cringe on streams (even about her own chara, on debut and during her first collab). Honestly the way she acted towards chicken felt geniune rather than an act (it started being an act when they started shipbaiting eachother and she tried putting their 'lore' in it, along with tsundere act). I can't blame her for that, but it's still a tiny turn-off tbh. Sometimes I feel like as if she applied for hololive for lulz (while having a big fanbase on her own for being jp+en rapper) and did not expect to be accepted, but there was no way to get out of it so she is just out there… Drinking a 2.50$ wine from nearest store like she did today, sounded a little bit drunk sometimes.
Can't hate her, but she doesn't seem to be my cup of tea right now because I am not too sure on how to feel about her. She seems a bit too rude sometimes, even towards cringechicken. I love her model though. Doesn't seem to be any special personality-wise, but her talent is pretty unique.>>112187
In my opinion the only perfect holo of them all is Ina’nis (octopus), who is also a well-known artist. She is very chill, relaxing and down to earth without any cringe involved (can't count her love for Mori's character design as cringe). She has a large auidence, 160k followers on Twitter (before her debut it was 135k https://twitter.com/wooperfuri/
Doesn't seem to be acting overlyfake nor pandering to people, just out there being a bit awkward and teaching people how to draw. She is also a big fan of tabletop games, so there is a hope for some tabletop game collab between all of them.
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After that LilyPeeshu (or what's that womans name?) Is supposed to get a 2d model too even though she fully relies on being on screen with her another bf.
Don't care if poki got it because of all the hype because she literally does nothing but sits in her chair and eats food while watching videos as far as I remember. Still, it amazes me how low quality this model is remembering how much money she earns. I guess she chose some cheap quick commission kek, never seen such half-assed model on a big streamer yet.
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Idk the artists she mentioned but this is the 'reference sheet'. Cap from her twitter.
The butt reference in bottom right had me rolling
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Oh yeah, vtubers especially english speaking ones are SO wholesome, must be why all the cos-thots and loli "voice actresses" who have to mention that they are LEWD in their profile/every other post and during streams, it's because they're wholesome!
Like Lilypichu and Nyanners and melody and swimsuit succubus and Nikkichi becoming vtubers, very wholesome kek
She always had okay-ish interest in anime, but she's always only been the "normie" kind of a weeb and a casual watcher. >>112233
I think you are taking this too seriously. If Lily had VRtuber avatar everyone would have been screaming kawaii even though she is as big as Pokimane. I'd be complaining too if I were you only if she would rebrand herself as VRtuber, putting this label in nickname, bio, and whatnot but it was just one random stream.
It's obviously not as if Pokimane is going to be walking with such shitty avatar forever, let people experiment and have fun. People who complain on Twitter are taking this way too seriously.>>112235
Is Ana some Rule34 artist because her anatomy reminds me of pornsick artists that draw disgusting stuff? I do not understand what's so pretty about that.
Nta but the Nyanners post is right. Ever since Nyanners became a VRtuber she is obsessed with pretending that she is against lolicon while playing as a loli and talking about sex, along with other lewdbaiting. Her whole "I deleted pomfpomf" drama is the oldest one from her OG days.
About Matsuri - it's a retarded made-up rumor that is taken from thin air.>>112370
I think you are taking this a bit too far. Have you forgotten she puts layers of makeup on her face that make her look cakey? She streams very often because that's her job, who wouldnt feel tired of sitting in makeup all day. Buying a VRtuber model is much cheaper thab getting a new makeup anyway.
She makes over 10k from subs alone each month, way more if you count in tier 2 and 3 subs, donations, bits and ad-revenue, make-up cost shouldn't be a problem for her. Neither should be the avatar cost, yet she commissioned the cheapest, fastest and most simple Vroid 3d avatar instead of getting actually good one, as if she heard how succesful HololiveEN debuts were and quickly wanted to jump the hypetrain. The headphones not even matching the refsheet supports the theory that it was a rushjob so she could do it before the hype fades and not something planned and thought out.
She's probably panicking because her subs haven't been this low in years and because of it she's just trying to jump onto whatever trend she can so she could stay relevant, too bad that she's a normie and doesn't know how to properly cater to vtuber weebs and therefore the Hololive audience will keep pouring money elsewhere
Yeah. Her YT wasn't wiped but I heard her past stream VODs were or something?
Is it true Senzawa's thing used to be getting drunk and high all the time? From the comments it seems to be something they refer to a lot. Seems she got her shit together if works for Hololive now. Good for her.
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>>112653> Pokimane doesn't want to be called vtuber! It's rude to call her one!> Pokimane literally named her stream "vtuber debut"
Those ass-lickers can't even get their facts straight > Why spend so much time hating on her model?
It looks unfinished.> I assure you, it's just few of our community who hate on her> shows already established vtubers that suck up to Poki
I have a feeling she only made that video so Pokimane posts it.
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She also pinned the comment from the artist who made the model
Nah some of the JP ones are shit too, it's not just because they're japanese and people have a bias due to language barrier. HoloEN is especially cringey with some of the girls already having their real selves outed but apparently if it's someone like Keeki being a cosplay whore or Senzawa making a shitty song for belle delphine among other things then it's fine.
Ina is definitely the only one who seems not so bad. The rest are try hard and gross.
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Anyone know anything about this YukiLuna chick? She went on a drama meltdown on twitter yesterday about how all EN vtubers (except her of course) are terrible awful people for not paying attention to her until she got partnered. She says being partnered and having 200 average viewers doesn't mean anything even though being partnered and having that kind of viewership means she is actually in the top 10 percent or so on twitch. She later goes on stream and starts screaming about how she got partnered and the people who ignored her didn't so they can go fuck themselves or whatever even though she just said partner doesn't matter. She seems unhinged as fuck lmao.
i dont really get how they could get so mad about the last video
they really be simping
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She's right though, this community preaches untill it's time to cancel someone. Here she talks about harassing of Athena
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Athena is a vtuber with Aspergers and on her stream she did the meme where Sakura Miko is repeating the n-word while playing gta
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She then got doxxed and harassed. She's also the girl that gets quoted a lot for being angry at Pokimane
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The n-word situation resulted in her ex leaking cp pictures of her and the vtuber community acts like she deserves it.
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The girl that sucks up to Pokimane >>112653
accused Athena of sending her fanbase after her friend > I'm sorry your cp got leaked but your incel fanbase threatened to doxx my friend after she called you out
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Tweet in question
this girl is fucking annoying, is she really gonna whine about people being mad at her for saying the n word>>113022
where is her confidence from this tweet kek
I mean honestly so are the same people who obsess over anyone enough go hand them hundreds of dollars. Would still not say it's the same at least in that regard.
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uwu kawaii chicken, definitely didn't cry on her stream for attention and asspats!
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In my opinion Anntan has the worst model out of all popular VRtubers. It looks ugly as hell.
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yall havent seen the dark corners of this fandom. most vtubers have nsfw fanart hashtags. and while I am not exactly against that. i am weirded out by ppl sexualising a child-like shark girl. yall weird too if you guys defend this
>>112700>>112701>projekt melody>high end model
my fucking god
are all vtubers and their fans technologically retarded
Why does everyone worship melody like some fucking goddess and use her as a better comparison>i hate real thots! muh melody/[insert v-thot] makes irl thots mad she has real personality and coding skills xd>generic v-thot is yet another "not like other girls" model straight out of MMD copying and stealing assets
Projekt melody is on pornhub. I think it's a matter of preference whether or not you like it pixelated or real, but at the end of the day if you wk, you're a simp.
If you've been on any *chan (aside from lolcow) for more than a month, you've probably seen people sexualizing loli/shota/guro/etc. Otaku are creepy scrotes who are willing to go out of their way for fap material in any way possible. And I imagine most of the coomers who do that are not the people donating to any of the vtubers either, because I can say from experience most of them are pirates who don't wanna waste their money on entertainment if they don't have to.
Most of the issues with vtubers aren't really issues with the characters themselves so much as the fandom. If there's anything I can agree on with Venti regarding the fans, it's vtuber fans are literally the new bronies. Within a month they'll probably retreat into their own smaller forums, but while they're out in the open they'll be as annoying and creepy as possible.
Now, that's not to say that some of the vtubers themselves aren't awful people (see:chicken), but I personally am at least able to seperate art from the artist. Unless they start involving their real life with their "persona" in HoloEN, I'll give the benefit of the doubt.
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fuck Brittany Venti and her shit video too. She's fighting against the evil jap cartoons for no other reason than money and its sick how she's using children to justify it. A drawing of a shark girl playing GTA isn't the same as children being raped to produce child sexual exploitation material. Lolishit is DDLG tier
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Ross from gamegrumps jumped on the bandwagon, soon every big name American gamer channel will have one
I was wondering where I saw her face before.
Bitch whining about evil loli anime streamers being boosted by a company like she ain't getting enough money lol
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Lol that fucking hand
>>113193>invading a space made for and by asian women
Vtubers were made by a bunch of soulless asian businessmen thinking about what would be a good idea for the "modern" idol.
Doesn't make them bad, but what you're saying is stupid considering said soulless japanese businessmen were willing to hire indian, indonesian, and white women, as well as men for their massive japanese idol collective.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.
A Japanese man, using japanese female talent
Frankly I dislike Ross and his obsession w being proximal to Japanese nerd culture is weird to me
Agree, maybe hololiveEN vtubers will be more professional in their normal lives starting from now since they answer to a company but i think there will be some good drama with small independent vtubers as they gain popularity.>>113191
She isn't wrong though? almost 50% of traficking victims
were forced to make porn too iirc.
At least she is consistent but this has nothing to do with v tubers anyway, maybe make a thread abt her>>113193>made for
lmao what, it was clearly made to appeal to mostly male anime fans. It's like the idol industry in a way, not some sacred space for asian women they are just the face of the "product".
Couldn't watch to the end because this guy is extremely irritating but that comment seemed so tame? i don't really understand her breakdown, some fans will like pure english and some prefer even more japanese, she will have to learn to deal with criticism much harsher than this down the road.
Also plenty of JP vtubers speak english randomly too, it's not really a issue.
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people like herohei and the others (this WK too) are just about as annoying as the "antis/haters" and low effort attention whores like Venti. She wants the attention and they're all too eager to give it to her (kek this isn't even her account, the one they screenshot Ted) and I find that as pathetic as the ones being hardcore simps and WKs over anime girl vtuber avatars who probably hate most of their fans. Imagine sperging out because someone said what is essentially the truth.
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Kek this was a top comment. "They're wonderful people" because you don't know them outside of their "lewd" fake anime girl schtick. The coomer weebs screaming about how Melody was superior back when was already bad (spoiler alert, she's a camwhore irl too, goes by Mars Mayhem) and Silverdale seems like a Chinese knockoff of Melody who is already walmart tier. uwu so ~wholesome and lewd~
They're all awful, wether they have a facerig or not.
>>113221>My country made virtual youtubers to bring joy to everyone
suuure it was this and not money. and isn't most of the loli art people are mad about made by japanese artists? very wholesome lol
you're not alone i find them very annoying too, acting like antis are on a crusade against their free speech or something. so what if you don't agree and she thinks you simp for a vtuber, just own it instead of making this childish little war
Yeah it sure is ingenious and simply easy money, anon! Because as we all know these vtubers stay anonymous and there has definitely certainly never been plenty of cases of rabid fans doxing them!
You need to have fans to make money but then you run the risk of having to deal with that shit. Just like with being an actual twitch thot or camwhoring. People who act like it's a safe bet are fucking retarded, especially now of all times.
Also there's been cases of men being female vtubers using a voice changer and that also being found out too kek.
As a person who runs an "anonymous" account which people suddenly desperately tried to dox this week over absolutely nothing (if you know which account I'm talking about, hi)
I wouldn't recommend anything with a closer connection to yourself, like voice, sex work, etc unless you are 100% cool with people showing up at your house. A few Twitch girls have even been honest recently about their very dangerous, threatening to murder them stalkers attained via using the platform. No such thing as easy money, especially in these times.
Damn I'm curious now anon. If you're a vtuber I might have a bunch but outside of that I agree with you regardless, people who act like this is in any way safer than just working a boring ol 9-5 have brain rot>>113238
This was really hard to watch to the point where I couldn't get to kiara aligning herself. Anyone saying these girls have some kind of authentic chemistry must be autistic to the point of not understanding what chemistry between people looks like at all. It seemed so forced and awkward and very obviously like "we are all here together because we were paid to be". The fake "hehe" giggles/laughter is like icing on the cake. The differences in audio quality don't make it better. Kiara's mic sounds like it's from 2007.
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Oh dear. Disaster.
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Gura isn't senzawa. There a lot of vocal quirks that gura had that senzawa doesn't.
I think Gura is actually Popushi.
Speaking example: https://youtu.be/OceBvUZmuVs
Popushi has been streaming and has done voice acting in anime and games before, so her getting picked up in the hololive auditions makes sense. Only issue is she was cancelled on Twitter like a month after auditions finished and like 2 months before gura's debut, so maybe hololive is ignoring it since gura is one of the most popular idols they have right now?
I don't think Popushi sounds anything like her or can sound anything like her? I think it's pretty clear that Senzawa is Gura from her disappearance and she sounds INCREDIBLY similar when speaking https://youtu.be/iU4xgaMVL8E
especially here you can tell
What. Its the same as saying that every rando "uwu high pitched voice"-chan is Gura.
I used to listen to Popushi covers all the time back in her league days, that's not her. And if Popushi was holo she'd be Chicken personality-wise because they both are mocky and obnoxious.
It's because of that "every rando "uwu high pitched voice"-chan is Gura" argument that makes me think it's NOT senzawa.
The clip that solidified it for me was this from her first game stream:https://twitter.com/theSirToasty/status/1305356409769529347?s=09
Thank clip of senzawa doesn't really confirm anything since it's just drunk loli noises. The only video senzawa has that kinda shows off her voice clearly would be the bad copypasta rap, and there her voice has much clearer words and enunciation that doesn't exist with gura or popushi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6DNdop6pD8
Popushi can easily get into that range. The vid is outdated but the similarities are there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CncVZDPN0E
Do you really think a company like HoloLive would hire someone who JUST had a scandal a few months ago? She hasnt posted publicly at all since then too so I think it's safe to say she was run off of the internet.
Your timeline doesnt even make sense if she got cancelled 2 months before the character's debut you really think they wouldnt have chosen someone else? They had no way of knowing she would be this popular before the debut and it would be easy to replace her with 2 months to spare. Plus if they DID hire Popushi and kept using her they would get SO much shit for it. We're talking about Japanese companies here who are so scared of scandals they will cancel contracts EASY.
I also think the 3 month span of auditions ending to their debuts was used to make sure the girls trained to be able to expand their range and do the character's voices flawlessly in long streams.
Reminder that this isnt 'normal voiceacting' you cant just go 'oh i flubbed that line' and do it over. They have to attempt to stay in the character's voice for however long the stream lasts.
I read about Popushi related drama and it seems like she got canceled for calling transgenders snowflakes and using n-word/being shitty human being overall. Why would Japanese company care about any of that? They hired chicken too, despite her doing same shit in the past, doubt they didn't run a background check. Shitty personality is not a reason to not hire someone.
Popushi does sing better than Senzawa, so maybe Gura is her after all
Taking bets how long until chicken rage quits, she has the least subs among all the EN girls and she seems too sensitive
I say 3 months
You obviously know nothing about how fickle Japanese companies are. Shitty personality is a major reason to not hire someone to play a live character when they have to interact with live chats.
There's also a big difference between 'doing the same stuff in the past' and 'having this scandal blow up right when they're hiring' Chicken also very obviously has ties in the Japanese weeb scene since she lives in Japan and does a lot of cosplay event stuff. There's a chance that whatever her 'real job' is (if it isnt having a visa husband) also giving her connections (or her visa hubby could have connections who knows)
Also if it's not Senzawa explain why they pushed the cowboy imagery so hard in the debut?
Popushi is gone for good and no one is sad about it.
anon the only drama japanese companies care about is if incels/otakus think they cant fuck their idol gfs because they were visibly seen with men or interacting sexually with men
but you dont even know who ran the hiring for holoEN. for all we know hololive got a completely western team and left it up to them to select western content creators. or maybe it was a JP team. "connections" vendetta posting means absolutely nothing for a multi-country business unless you have some sort of insider information on the hiring process you're willing to leak with caps
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twatter really mad at loli shit of a fictional persona, what's new?https://twitter.com/BrittanyVenti/status/1308459200255848448
Hololive doesn't even care about that, they didn't fire Aloe or Towa for having a boyfriend, why would they care she called someone a snoflake?
And you would think if Chicken bribed them into hiring her, they'd try to make her character more succesful
She's right. In this case, she called out neckbeards who watch this shit to jerk off to, and they responded to her with "N-No, you're just stereotyping us fans! Most of this vtuber's fans are kids!".
If most of the audience really are kids, whoever's in charge of the account has been showing their audience (of children) loli fap material. There's no winning here.
whats with all the venti hate lol? like we have an entire thread of people and 2 embedded videos of hers and somehow all of you missed the points entirely to vendetta post "THAT TRAD ETHOT LARPER SHOWS HER TITS ON CAMERA LMAO I LIKE VTUBERS NOW"
like holy shit the lot of you are autistic or perhaps scrotes
she never even stated she disliked vtubers, her criticisms were that they're boring and produce pokimane-tier content if they arent playing games and that a lot of the popular ones sexualize loli/child looks. is that not an issue? is it not fucking weird for r18 artists to do this >>113437
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Everyone butthurted when Pokimane went VRtuber route, but what about other twitch streamers? LilyPichu is getting her 2D model done soon, and Sykkuno (who is known for faking his voice and being an alleged creep (?) ) already hopped on a train, along with Ross and people seem to not criticise them.
I'm not surprised after him getting involved with Himari, but he didn't WK her. He never really cared about her, she just somehow made it into his circles with help of her friends. He also was one of the first people to leave after she was outed.
Himepen seems to have gotten a new boyfriend judging by her skeb. She got quite a lot of artwork involving him, so maybe he's gonna be a vtuber too
People portray a soon-to-be 30 woman as a child and innocent angel when they actually know nothing about her. Let alone she was or still remains to be "besties" with Destiny who is one of the milkest men on Twitch, he even whiteknighting CP existence.
Other than that Lily never gives a hell about her community. Her moderators are: old fans that she chose randomly and the newest one got mod status because He has always been her top donator for years. One of the mods is known for asking a 15 year old girl for nudes but no one cares about that because this mod doesn't have any vendetta with higher tier mods. Her community along with moderators are nothing but fake ass-kissers that are abusing their mod status by being rude to everyone, including children and belittling people along with trying to ban whoever they do not like. Her community also has its own private discord servers that are related to gossips and shittalks towards members, and moderators are a part of it.
PULL used to whiteknight Lily 24/7 after Albert cheated on her and whenever someone would give at least a tiny criticism, she would get downvoted and that's sad.
Did your cat piss in your sheets this morning? Calm the fuck down. The lily threads are dead as fuck on LC and were a snooze fest on PULL.
>you ruin everything
Stop being so melodramatic. >>113607
is right. Being close to 30 and acting all uwu is disgusting.
Calm down, wk-chan. Everyone are treating Lily like a baby who can do nothing wrong
. She also keeps doing her best to pretend to be an uwu anime girl still, can even judge that off her minecraft letsplays. Can't wait for her to jump on another dick just so she would turn 80% of her content into nothing but boyfriend material again. In reality all of her fame has always been boosted by her bfs (and now otv dramas), old hotshotgg, dyrus and co. times where she would leech off everyone. Even right now she gotten popular only because of her retarded friends milking the shit out of cheating scandal drama.
You take this way too personally. Get some fresh air.
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Speaking of pokimane, guess who's using her vtuber character again.
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Pinky is being a massive bitch/accusing a new VTuber of stealing her generic catgirl ethot design and tracing art. I don't know how true it is and it very well might be, in which case sure she has a right to be mad or upset, but but the way she's tweeting about it several times, RTing replies and milking it for all it's worth is making her come across as a massive attention whore.
Lmao I’m not a WK, you have this weird fixation on her on age.
>You take this way too personally. Get some fresh air.
More like you take any mention of lily personally. Someone mentioned sykkuno and your gremlin mind found some way to make lily a topic of conversation. The lily threads are dead because there’s no milk. Hashing your speculations from relationships 10+ years ago with no receipts is still not “milk” no matter how many times you bring it up
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It may be a basic ethot design, but its still way too similar, even the pattern used on the skirt. Not a smart move on that ribbon girl's side to copy a design so closely from an already semi established vtuber.
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Both of them remind me of one popular JP VRtuber.>>113718
I feel like her model got fixed? Because it surely looks better than during her ''debut''. Looks much cleaner.>>113728
If only Pokifags whiteknighted their queen on imageboards and websites as hard as people do towards Lily ze azn qween.
Yeah, all these girls are ripping each other off but this one is pretty blatant. Gotta say, both are ugly. The crown on the ear is a retarded design choice, but literally all vtuber avatars are Like That.
and Lily will fit right in with the rest of them. She's been doing that obnoxious fake loli voice way before it became commonplace among weeb thots. It used to drive me insane but now so many people do it I've just accepted it's a widespread thing now.
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I mean it is legitimately traced and copied but it's a generic anime catgirl design
That chin extension is horrifying.
It is pretty generic to the point you could argue they're both copies of Lucky Chloe with Ali clothing on top
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Pinky is pinkprty and was another jobless attention seeking thot riding off of gothfruits until the clout dried up. Funny to see her stir in shit again in another community
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Someone's upset lol
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Imagine complaining about how you feel like people take/steal from you and how original you are when your IG feed looks like this and you yourself copied from another japanese VTuber.
Kek nice move, giving herself an excuse to relax for a few days while her fans feel bad for her AND avoid the shitstorm of the one other girl getting harassed because of her>>113806
How much do you wanna bet she will milk this and claim to be a victim
of art theft for a few months?
SachiOWO's game library isn't exactly subtle here.
The bigger question is how many ties does Felkey have to Sachi since some anon is a bit too eager about probing there. (https://direct.warosu.org/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=felkey
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idk how anyone could find this ugly, retarded, jittery fucking thing cute let alone "sexy"
It's mostly lolitards and normies. She's almost everywhere on facebook now because 'omg das a shark w baby voice uwu! so UNIQUE uwu'.
Her content is lowest quality now, after her comes the Phoenix. Do not understand the appeal either, she didn't warn anyone she's not going to stream (possibly drinking / getting high, knowing the person behind it) n w/e. Japanese people dig her only because of loli design, which is why she had the most amount of subs before her debut. Westerntards are dumb because everyone on twitch r doing the same 'content' as shark, so I would think that they would get bored of her, because man I sure did.
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I couldn't care less about the streams but I find the design adorable. I'd still rather see it in a comedy anime than the pander-show that is Hololive.
Creepier than the fact that they speak like literal toddlers and ask each other "what color pantsu" they wear while acting like it's ">w< so embarassing B-B-AKA!!"
When I hear those fucking weeby asian girls squeak like a fucking dog toy I just want to vomit. The men who are into this are sick in the head.
This degenerate shit should stay on obscure weeb-sites and not go mainstream. It's NOT CUTE, it's borderline pedophilic.
There's actually a japanese vtuber who received a line voicemail from her mother during her stream that said 'don't act like a baby'.
Idk about you guys but having your parents watch your stream while you pander to horny viewers with high pitched childlike voices and even have characters that look like children is weird.
what's with the panting anyways, i've seen that behavior with the vtuber vid i have watched in my recommendation page. I don't get it. and please slap common sense to your friend and let him watch actual Japanese women talk, it's really different.
god, i even read some comments in another vtuber vid that goes along of 'women can't have deep voices' and I stopped reading the replies.
Anon I know you were trying to use this as a good example but I honestly couldn't make it past even 20 seconds of this video, her voice is just as obnoxious as all the others to me.
People in this thread keep saying "only Western Vtubers are trash" but honestly, they're all the same. Japanese Vtubers can be just as obnoxious, degenerate, boring, cookie-cutter and greedy for fame, it's just that because it's in Japanese, non-natives like you get filtered out or think the act is more "authentic" because we all know Japanese girls are naturally uguu kawaii lolis like in my favorite animes right? To all those saying the opposite, please take off your weeb goggles for once.
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I really like Botan!
She is out there chilling as lion woman avatar without trying to sound like loli or become a moeblob
> instead, her stream is mostly nothing but tech talk or her carrying everyone in shooters, the best gamer in hologamers category
> has esports connections
> the only cringeworthy thing she does so far from what i have noticed was just her playing her lion girl character which would contain nothing but her trying to eat an animal-vrtuber
> has esports connections
> is unpopular and underrated among seafans because she doesnt have a high pitched voice and her avatar is an adult woman instead of a loli.
I still think her avatar design is complete shit when you look at the bottom, but I am thankful they only show her half-body instead of full body.
The only collab stream I watched w her was Watamate (sheep=chan) one that had funny plotline while they were playing Overcooked 2, because I can not stand most of holos.
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Teru's own model looks better than the one they made for poki, even though its still average vroid quality. Poki's 100% has to be a rush job just for quick money
I think her laptop freezing might have lost her too much time >>112700
so she needed to rush to finish.
The way she said in that comment ( >>112700
), she first started working on it with her old one but it was taking too long so poki helped buy another but i think the damage to the time limit was already done. What i don't get is why take commissions with a time limit if you know your laptop is dying…
I don't know, i think the rush really was for the hololive debut since everyone would be talking about vtubers. Lilypichu is getting one too, and sykkuno, guess poki wanted to be first.
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Some people are too desperate for fame. I understand she is barely relevant for a long time now, but seriously?
She really gotten a huge amount of likes on Twitter only by posting teaser about her VR model and this. A new way of trying to sell her failing clothing store I guess, the timing is sus.
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NSFW artwork in spoiled picture
No idea about Sykkuno, but Lily's VRtuber artist is a hentai artist who is known for defending (and infighting about it on Twitter) lolicon if you are into that.
Twitch admins also hate this artist by silently banning her without any proper explaination, even though she would follow TOS.
The said artist is everything wannabe lewd e-thots like Anntan (mentioned in thread?), etc. wishes they were because she is actually good at it.>>113991
I saw her randomly getting promoted on 4chan in holo global threads.
Guess she stopped because she's back to her usual fake Nyanners-wannabe voice now. Seriously why do these bitches all use the same fake voice? It's like you pick lilypichu, nyanners or ironmouse to sound like. I guess when your pedophile fanbase doesn't have the braincells to know better or care, its fine.
For as ugly as her design is and how annoying and tryhard she is, at least Silvervale's voice isn't too obnoxious or fake.
This is primarily a gossip board, not a debate board, so farmers on here will often attack character/behavior first before examining arguments (or if they do, the arguments will always be colored by said character).
It would also be considered "off topic" to start seriously debating her points, as it's not pertaining to the cows themselves, so I can see why most comments are simply "Venti retard boob girl" etc.
The anime-lovers get incredibly salty over Venti and to me all that says is that she hit a sore spot and is right. I don't like Venti at all, in fact I think she is a huge hypocrite because she is also a thot and she puts on a super annoying babyvoice as well (which is why I can't listen to her videos).
But she is right about this. Vtube caters to pedophiles. There is no other way of looking at it, grown men shouldn't spend their days watching women who sound and act like children, it's creepy. And that this shit is being pushed by mainstream media now (xbox retweeting that shark) is fucking mental. Combine this with the recent outrage over "Cuties" and you can put together a pretty nice narrative that there is a push to sexualize children in mainstream media. Soon those fucking loli characters will get more realistic, you can pay them superchats to twerk for you or suck on phallic shaped lollipops. Calling it now.
If you like vtubers then something is wrong with you, cause they are neither entertaining, thought provoking, intelligent, talented,… or ANYTHING AT ALL REALLY. All they do is try to spell english words squeak like dog-toys and pretend to be literal toddlers while throwing out a shit ton of "innocent" sexual innuendos. It is probably even more garbage content than actual anime itself.
Agree and kind of wish it would stop, the loli debate should be saved for an OT thread or something.
Kinda wonder if it's either Venti or the vtubers being talked about here coming in to shit up/derail the thread. Even if they aren't it's annoying either way.
I think if you're giving Venti any kind of positive affirmation or saying she's right when she is just as guilty of the shit she accuses vtubers/vtuber simps of, then yes, you are fucking retarded. People can hate both and find both sides fucking braindead, and if you seriously think that they're mutually exclusive I genuinely feel sorry for you,
I'm sorry someone daring to talk badly about your queen has had to make you sperg out so hard, maybe if those "good points" came from someone who isn't Venti and isn't an outright hypocrite I would be more inclined to agree.
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I see all this evidence and wonder, how would a mid-30s year old VA be willing to fill the role of a spazz for 10 years as Sachi and now however many years as Wason? Sounds maddening luv.
So? Just cause it's anime means it's not pedophilic? Anime is probably the most pedophilic media out there because they have the whole "it's just a drawing" excuse and Japan is really weird about child sexualization in general. Like you can get legit underaged schoolgirl prostitutes easily.
It's fucking creepy.>>114065
Yeah, every fucking pervert uses that excuse. "it has boobs so it's not a child, despite every other feature being extremely child-like" "Actually she is a 9000 year old demon!!!11">>114062
I have yet to see a vtuber use a normal voice, not act completely childish and have an avatar that looks like an adult. Maybe Pokimane, kek.
It's not really relevant anymore. It has been discussed to death.
I'm more interested in Cover Corp getting into hot water every single week it seems like. Now they suspend their talents for saying the word Taiwan to kneel down to the Chinese commies. I feel like people are starting to realize Hololive is far from perfect and at the end of the day is producing a product in the form of entertainment.
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I can’t wait for three weeks of complaining about this coco stuff on the actual fandom side of things. every wk has a pitchfork and is ready to go to war when imo maybe you shouldn’t really show something private like channel analytics on your stream in the first place. The other half who aren’t fighting China are treating the girls like baby and still circlejerking over muh aloe. 3 weeks is harsh especially over something that seems like it could be handled over a meeting or something but the men in this community are insane so
a couple of you were saying you don’t know non-loli voicers and coco is probably one of the better examples of that..she’s crass but feels more like a peer imo than a lot of the other ones. personally watching some of her clips she was one of the first to make me realize that they are many vtubers with many different niches and it isn’t all loli bullshit. I don’t know man, sometimes it’s nice just to have some background noise that isn’t all tits, someone’s looks, or trying to sell me something. You also just get the bonus of laughing at how deep in the hole some of these guys are and the amounts of money the drop for a literal YOURNAMEHERE-San! at the end of a stream.
She's bumped and promoted because she was made by a member of Iron Vertex which is big in the Live2d Vtubing scene. The head of the group made Yueko's wig and runs a whole Live2d Discord server so it's easy so there's a huge group of people who are interested in Live2d and learning Live2d who are exposed to her because she was created by a part of IV so they promote here.
Also with the amount of time goes into making live2d I doubt she was copying Gura and it's probably a coincidence but IMHO even if she was I prefer her to Gura because the character doesnt look like a child and has a better design than just 'haha shark hat+shirt+pointy teeth = shark girl right????'
I'm not coming at Iron Vertex, I know who they are. They also did Nyanners model. Nor was I coming after her design. She literally has a video with her saying E and that's it.
You can stan for her all you want, but it's basically the same skit.
If you're just going to sperg about how pedophilic anime is, get out of the thread. And there's lots of real life adult women with round faces, or short builds who have to deal with their partners being called pedophiles by people like you, who think anyone with any sort of 'child like' feature is pedobait.
As for the vtubers who don't fake their voice to be super high or have a loli model, theres quite a lot: KiryuCoco, Silvervale, and NoizyBunny are the examples that I watch, but there's tons of smaller vtubers who also use normal voices.
Weebs mad. How come you are all so defensive and get angered so quickly when someone points out that you are obsessed with something that most of us stopped liking when we got out of high school?
>I bet the most exciting thing you've ever done is miss church on a Sunday. Fuck off, pretentious twat.
If your definition of exciting is jerking off to lolicon, then I guess my life is not very exciting, cause I don't want to fuck kids.
>And there's lots of real life adult women with round faces, or short builds who have to deal with their partners being called pedophiles by people like you, who think anyone with any sort of 'child like' feature is pedobait.
If that adult woman also acts and dresses like a child, then yes, it's pedobait. It's not just that they are anime avatars that look like kids, it's that they also ACT like children, while at the same time talking about sexual things. ">w< Onii-chan fwound out my pwantsu color!! I'm so embawassed!!"
There's a reason there is so much loliporn being drawn of all of these Vtuber avatars. It's cause that's the audience they attract.
>KiryuCoco, Silvervale, and NoizyBunny are the examples that I watch
Those models look like literal whores. I agree that they don't look like children, but that is further proof that Vtubers are inherently oversexualized and cater to scrotes.
>>114179>most of us stopped liking when we got out of high school
so the vast mojority of cenvention attendees who are university age or older suddenly don't count? The fact that every single convention has 21+ events that are very well attended, and its common to see people in their late 30s and older at conventions doesn't mean anything?
>Those models look like literal whores
"I hate models that look like kids, and models that look like adults are all whores" so basically you just hate all female avatars? stop samefagging and get out of this thread already
Kiara AND professional? Are we watching the same thing? Kiara is literally the milkest cow of Hololive because of how unstable she is. Literally even saw her stream today where she would do nothing but whine and pitybait, become hysterical over tech issues (can't stream FE game) and finish the stream, adding that no one is watching it anyway eventho she had 10k viewers. Ever since day one she tries to become popular through twitter spam, and she is a well-known holoJP reject. I remember she asked Pekora (after being rejected) on what to do to become a holo. She answers "all you need to do is love me" and there we go.
The only person who will call it quits is Kiara.
The only streamers that seem to know how to do their job well are Ina and Amelia. Personally not a fan of Amelia but her stream quality is good and she finds a way.
Mori needs a lot of time and it looks like to me that she joined holoEN for lulz without expecting to be accepted.
Gura is…Gura lowtier that people like bc of voice and loli. She never talks on collabs so idk why people like her.
>>114197>I remember she asked Pekora (after being rejected) on what to do to become a holo. She answers "all you need to do is love me" and there we go.
What the fuck are you talking about?
With professional I mean:"Doing her best to make it last." Reading all the superchats. Responding to chat. Trying to entertain as best as she can. Speaking with a loud & clear voice. You know, things you'd expect from a professional streamer. Of the five she is the best public speaker. I didn't see the FE streams.
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Artia from Hololive CN supports the suspension of Coco and Haato over saying Taiwan on her private account, somehow I feel like this time will be the incident that really fucks up Cover.
>>114179>Watch anime = Lolicon pedofag.
Good strawman. I respect weebs more than you because at least they're not retarded. Maybe you should go back to high school and try to finish. Might get you a bit further in your burger flipping career.
Btw I like your r/femaledatingstrategy lingo. You do know that everyone, male and female fucking hate you that isn't in your hugbox right?
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Just as assmad on Twitter, haven't checked out 5ch
Searching カバー株式会社 has a bunch of shit that screencapping is a pain but they'll probably be at it for days.
If they're not mad at them because of the girls it's for the political shit.
Mr. Cover, Inc.
Doesn't it occur to you that the punishment is hurting the Taiwanese people?
We request that the punishment be withdrawn.
A weeb trying to talk down to anybody is always funny. It's like a black person trying to use a racial slur like "cracker" on a white person thinking it will hurt their feelings. >>114186
I don't hate anime in general. I loved Sailor Moon as a child. But I realize that it is entertainment for children and not adults, unless those adults are still stuck in a childish mindset, which judging by the hilariously uncreative insults you weebs throw out, seems to be the case for all of you. >>114183>"I hate models that look like kids, and models that look like adults are all whores" so basically you just hate all female avatars?
Because you can either have a female avatar that looks like a child or one that looks like a camgirl with fetish gear. Hmmm yes, those are sadly the only two options and represent women perfectly.
I’m childish for explaining that it’s fucking ironic of you to flip out about anime being pedophilia when you are posting on a goddamn image board which were originally popularised by adults discussing anime and the entirety of image board culture largely stems from that?
I wasn’t even the anon you were replying to, I’m a lurker and it was my very first post in the thread. Your post was that stupid and embarrassing I had to reply to you. Take your satanic panic and pedo hysteria somewhere else because you look like a moron and if you’re going to do that and shame other people for liking anime, maybe have more self awareness than to do that on a platform that’s roots stem from that.
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This you anon?
Keep crying on FDS hugbox, you miserable sad sack. REEEEEE Scrotes, REEEEEEEE
I'm discussing anime tho, am I not? I really don't understand the argument of "HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU DONT LIKE ANIME BUT USE A WEBSITE THAT ONCE DISCUSSED ANIME?" >>114224
Calm down with the projection. "Oh you don't like anime? WOW YOU MUST HAVE NO FRIENDS! HEY GUYS! ANON WORKS AT BURGER KING SHE DOESNT LIKE ANIME! WHAT A LOSER!" Either that shit really rots your brain or you have to be a brainlet to begin with to enjoy it.
I'll leave you weebs alone so you can discuss which little Vtube loli wears the cutest pantsu in peace.
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Also another cap proving it's Artia and not the usual Hololive fandom narrativeposting
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>take a break after baaaawing about her "copycat" five posts straight
>comes back after a few days to baaaaw about the no longer relevant "copycat" some more
ffs we GET IT, why do you need this many posts to milk the "drama" for pity and sympathy? It's getting really pathetic. It's BEEN pathetic even after the other girl deleted her posts. Was this bitch as much of an attention whoring brat during the gothfruits saga as she is now?
imagine being this upset over another girl "taking" the same generic egirl design and whining about it nonstop even after instead of just letting it go
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With how much out rage there is over this I don't think they're coming back, seems it was so "outrageous" it hit newshttps://hk.appledaily.com/news/20200928
She is also the reason why HoloEN exists, she created and pushed that idea to Cover. That'll be pretty scummy of them to kick her, but I also won't be surprised.
Coco also lives with Kanata and Watamate. Kanata took a break from streaming to support Coco, while Watamate seems to be pretty down during streams.
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Michaela Laws has one now. Looks like a basic bitch IMVU avatar, fucking christ. She is an obeast IRL.
If you don't know who this is, this is the voice actress for Ayano Aishi from Yandere Simulator. Tends to be a cow from time to time but not lulsy enough for her own thread.
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>>114402>Another one with Among Us.
I pray for the day these people ask to themselves "Would I follow myself for these kinds of streams?"
coming from the vocaloid/utau fandom this is just some OC pissing contest all over again
most UTAUS back then are trying to be the next Miku Hatsune with generic weeb designs and fake grating loli voice, not so much different from vtubers I guess
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how do we feel about veibae? maybe i sound like a vendetta chan but i HATE her weird fake voice. she's also incredibly rude to her chat and says things like "retard" and makes fun of people when they get offended. i checked on her chat and she just randomly got mad at some viewers for no reason really.
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Her design is just sagiri but as a succubus or whatever. She's so dumb. But apparently she has this new design on the way kek
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Don't know about nudes but Vei looks like your typical twitch whore irl, complete with overfilled fish lips and potential bad shoop
I'm sure she does, doubt the way she talks about people in her chat on stream is even the full view of how she talks about the people who give her money off stream.>>114538
But anon! Why pay for it yourself when neckbeards who believe your voice is real and you're really a precious anime waifu will do it for u?
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why is japan so obsessed with lolishit? why is it so normalized there? it really creeps me the fuck out how they casually view human beings (women/girls) as things to be objectified. not like the west doesn't also have massive issues with this but you won't see this kind of bullshit in an american zoo. insanely unnerving.
I was thinking exactly of this. It's all fanloids/UTAUloids all over again.
Imagine the drama ripping through everyone's asscheeks if a big streamer like Pokimane suddenly made an oo-ta-ooh or even landed a contract with a company and made a Vocaloid kek>>114540
What's with all the sperging?
There's a huge difference between liking cutesy shit and liking associating sex with female children>insanely unnerving>getting triggered over a childish cutesy drawing of a penguin
calm down Venti
she's in her twitch channel, again milking the "copycat drama" for more pity
god she even talks like an annoying nasaly egirl
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Suprise suprise, she's back. What do you wanna bet she's gonna cry about the drama again and try to get asspats?
You're a few hours late anon, also yeah I popped by her stream at the beginning and she definitely was milking it, not sure about the rest of the stream though.
Obviously tracing art is bad, but her saying on stream something along the lines of "she stole literally my entire design" which just isn't true kek
Yeah it's dumb. Also on stream she confirmed she's that pinkprty person because she said her favorite servant is ibaraki (from fate) and she's cosplayed her.
She wears basic bitch egirl outfits irl, has a basic bitch egirl vtuber design and it's like….surprised pikachu face when someone else has a similar design.
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Okay her singing stream confirmed it for me. Gura is Popushi. Her karaoke video seems to be private right now, but twitter clips exist
Spent a fat 30 minutes listening to each, definitely sounds much more like Senzawa to me.
Her accent and cadence are really really similar. whereas popushi has a slightly higher tone and softer release.
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Just to hammer in how fame obsessed and crazy popushi is, here she is flashing at a fakku party. Yes the other girls are doing it too, but they’re paid models by the company. Polishing wants to be the center of attention so bad she does this shit. It wouldn’t surprise me if she’s self posting
They're all ugly attention whores and fakku is a scam company out of shithole pdx built off of taking other people's doujin translations and selling them
Still don't think popushi is gura
Not that Senzawa being Gura is any better
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It isn't even traced either, the pose is obviously going to be the same, does that mean anyone who uses the same hand pose at the same angle is tracing? Pinky tried to post a gif as proof that the line up but the lines and everything looks different than just being traced. Of course when anyone pointed this out, Pinky stayed silent. And she's still accusing this girl of copying her and tracing even now.
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Not that anon but it's an obvious trace. Tracers shift lines and change them slightly to say they didn't trace but it's an obvious trace.
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It took me all of 3 minutes to find a fuck ton of generic anime paw pictures and put them in a collage for you since you want to be dense. There are thousands of reference pictures she could have relied on instead of tracing and copying someone else's design.
Diffenrent anon but you really are retarded huh, there's thousands of different ways to draw closed paw hand, what the fuck are you talking about. That's definitely traced, why are you defending it? Are you this girl or her friend by chance?
Also as much as I think that the outfit of the original is as basic as it gets, even without the tracing it's pretty obvious that the outfit was copied too. Pretty sad honestly, imagine being this unoriginal. Copying the most basic bitch vtuber design this hard is pathetic.
keep your panties on anon, i said it's traced, idc about her copying the generic ugly ethot getup, also just bc i chimed in doesn't make me the same
saying someone who is insisting one thing is x = saying someone who is insisting another is y, if you still don't get it then you never will. wasn't even saying you were was just saying going by that same logic you used.
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Anons are sleeping on 4chan /jp/ threads. For 3rd thread in a row anons doxxed Amelia's old curiouscat where she bragged about her bf (posts are last year) to a point where she'd talk about sex. In the end she went ragemode while reading the threads and few mins ago deleted her account. One of the anons also directly asked her if she's dating, she said she isnt for over a year now.
This is for SachiOWO right? I think most people already knew that Amelia was her so I'm not sure if it counts as a dox to find old accounts associated with SachiOWO.
Also those /jp/ threads are mighty fast filled with weaponized autism so its hard to find actual milk relating to Hololive when it's a new thread every 20 minutes.
Man, I can't find the posts where supposedly some anon from the /jp/ thread was cutting himself over Amelia having a BF, but that's fucked up. Some time ago I was of the idea that the western fanbase of Vtubers didn't have insane elements like japanese otakus, but I guess I was extremely naive. Most people thankfully don't obsess that much over them.
I see a lot of sperging and random theories about the real identities of these girls, I don't think it matters at all. They are playing a part separated from their real selves. They are characters played by actors.
By the way, I just found out this thread after casually exploring this place for other cows, sorry if I accidentally repeat things already said.>>113886
Kek, that's Sakura miko for you. If there's anything to go by according to her interests she talks about on streams, she is as much of an otaku as her viewers. She plays quite a lot of porn games apparently. Can't tell if that's a quirk or a real trait she carries in her character tho.
Sure it could be a coincidence, but:
- they play the same gacha games
- are very talented at drawing and have the same style
- speak English, Japanese and Korean
- Nagu is known to be Canadian and Ina speaks with a distinctly Canadian accent
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Let's not forget.
- All of Nagu's Discord links point to invalid.
- Nagu's Twitch wasn't updated to remove !Discord.
- Nagu turned off YouTube comments so the Streisand Effect wouldn't happen like it did for Ina's EN friends.
- Dislikes cucumbers.
Sure seems very coincidental for her to have an illness that gives her a loli uguu voice so naturally the best choice to go down is to use that voice to pander to pedophiles as a Vtuber with a cutesy loli design.
Or maybe it's all bullshit and like the gullible paypig you are you lap it up
This made me fucking crack up so hard, anon. I needed a good laugh today.
Her voice is high cause she has a short tongue disability. LMFAO.
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From what I've seen lurking on and off /jp/ is that Amelia fans are the craziest of them all followed by Mori fans. Gura is popular with those who like high numbers or lolis and Ina-fags try to self-improve with drawing (supposedly). Only Kiara has dedicated haters.
Here is a picture from the general. Warning:disgusting.
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Ina is a better version of the art streamers you may or may not have watched before since she actually knows the anime : gatchas she draws and is more importantly, drama-proof.
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Amelia’s really out here after having her simps cut themselves over her singing all the codependent relationship hits. kiss me, DDLC, end of the world. kek
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What did I miss about detective?
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"Making fun of vtuber's uwu lolibait voice actding is ABELISM" LMAO. Add that to the list of fake conditions these vtubers use to con scrotes. Unless she's a primordial dwarf, this is a lie. It's always voice conditions too, huh? Zentraya has a mysterious voice condition that makes her totally mute so she has to use text to speech! (The condition is that she has a dick and balls.)
then maybe she shouldnt be a fucking vtuber if something like her voice would give it away, unless she's so much of a lolcow that hearing her voice would be an instant dox
>silvervale, ironmouse and that crew
kek like how ironmouse fakes being oh so sick and bedridden for pity and thousand dollar donations? like how silvervale and melody played along with scrotes' memes about how they're better than the other camwhores on chaturbate they were in competition with, even though they're both ugly camwhores themselves outside of vtubing?
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Can anyone confirm if these are really Pekora and Miko?
did anyone catch uguubear's stream?
The whole thing is hella sus to me
From what I can tell instead of counting 'new subs' she included the previous total subs because the earliest stream preview that I can see says she's in the 400's and by the end of the first part of her stream she showed that she had almost the 900 goal.
But from what I can tell she only posted about it on twitter and both her post announcing the stream and then the one announcing when the stream was starting have around 250 likes so how would she get more subs than she can manage to get likes on her posts? her top sub gifter only gave 30 so things arent adding up
Also when I checked into the stream during the second part where she was playing league she was struggling to push 70 viewers and the chat was so slow people were even complaining about it and the sub goal bar was totally gone which is weird for a 'subathon stream'
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Nah, that sounds like bullshit you made up in this thread. I never saw any clip of her saying that or anyone else talk about it anywhere before.
It's just part of her character and she is probably just a degenerate that likes to appeal to other degenerates like her for quick otaku bucks.
Does she actually read /jp/ or other boards? Or does she know because she hears others talk about it?
Why do they supposedly hate her, again? I think i missed that part.
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/jp/ likes to rag on chicken for being a homogeneous vtuber who hangs around 2 voices that click with people and 2 talented people.
Had she been in another set of Hololives people wouldn't really put a magnifying glass on her.
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does anyone have any dirt on this artemis vtuber or know anything about her real identity?(newfag)
/jp/ says Tsunderia or ValkyrieAurora?
Having to exist with a superior shark out in the ocean will probably give her more emotional problems than Kiara so not sure why you want knowledge.
she gained like, 24k followers in a week i am positive she is not having any emotional problems regarding that
those usernames on twit?
Damn, she's already at 24k? Wtf.
Last time I brought her up I was told that she got that popular because Iron Vertex gave her a shoutout? I don't know beyond that since the videos I saw when she was at 8k were copying Gura.
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Is pretending to be retarded while having a big tiddy sona a trend?
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How can anyone be not embarrassed to say entitled and tone deaf shit like this?
Maybe if it's that much of a "stressful" time for you because your weeb/coomer bux are going to dwindle down from you playing video games as an anime girl for a few hours twice a week, that might be a sign to try to go out and get an actual job or pursue something productive to society like everyone else?
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Kek of course they complain about having to do the bare minimum prior to that tweet. UWU pls be patient!!!!
seriously, she already has near the amount of followers her artist has. getting 90% of someones followers bc they did your art is quite unfeasible
people who commission a big artist get a bunch of followers yeah, 1k, 2k… not 25k.
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Searching up Anime Expo 2019 has me hard walled either by vloggers being bad at their job or the venue being too fucking big. You'll have to settle for Agnes' smug humu humu.>>114890
All of them have the same problem in that they specialize in putting you to sleep.
Some try to force the quirkiness that people like about Pekora and friends without realizing the mismatch here since their hugbox community gets impressed by literally anything. (https://twitter.com/yueko__/status/1305481924132044800?s=20
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this is the image we have of her posted here, anyone know more info tho?
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Looks like waybackmachine has solid proof on this being Ina.
Rest in peace /jp/, nothing stings worse than a girl who makes (You) feel inadequate all around. Not even the forbidden knowledge about detective can top this feeling.
I've been watching Kiara's minecraft stream and I am surprised that Twitter police hasn't cancelled her yet. She literally kept saying shit like> that's what you get for being a FILTHY JEW
always belittling jews.
Proofs that Vtuber community doesn't watch HoloEN while pretend to be their fans?
If China really cared about HoloEN they would have cancelled her by now, so they are lucky.
I'm gonna go look for this
man i just wish she fucking posts something that isnt the same fkn video every fkn time
why do people eat this shit up its so stupid(imageboard)
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Obviously no face in this one, but I saved it before she nuked her old tweets. She's 5'9" apparently also according to old tweets
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Man I wish I could have Ina's whale money…
I think there’s a massive shit poster doing anything to smear holoen right now. If it actually happened there would be countless evidence. I’ve checked /jp/ and twitter and there’s no mention of anti semitism anywhere.
If the girls do something shitty by all means get it out there, but making up shit just gives them more victimization. Maybe it’s popushi lmao, she does love saying the n-word and other racist shit.
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ironmouse's twitter literally has years worth of content about her condition though
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Bros wtf? I could have sworn there were NieR: A videos here. Was the courtesy of letting YouTube stay up and saying you're going to Twitch because Google hates people who upload 1 video a month just too much for her?
My problem with iron mouse is that she tries making her illness as both a part of personality and way to get money from crying simps. On her podcast she also seemed like a retard because of her, trying to be both 'uwu loli' and the lewdest tard of both NSFW e-girls.
About HoloEN. I do not seem to understand why people even watch Kiara the phoenix. I watched three of her streams so far and two collabs with her, both of which were equally shit.
- She would try making MoriKiara happen and Mori started _poorly_ play along in the end. She thinks that this will give her content and views which is why she makes sure she would lesbianbait people at moments when it's not needed at all, in completely random conversations. Just to get nothing in return (lol).
- She has PC problems on her stream ALL THE TIME. But I would understand if she taken it lightly, calmly and nice because people still watch her, but she always ends up being ragey and salty. The funniest shit was her FE stream, where she was so mad that she is the least subscribed Holo that she decided to babyrage, saying no one watches her anyway and turned off the stream when there were approx. 9000 people watching her.
- Every stream (and now every tweet) is nothing but pity party. She really is an insecure and emotionally immature streamer. Even on her minecraft streams she throws herself pity parties. At least it works because people donate out of… Pity.
- She is a very obvious attention whore if no one noticed that. She is the only one who tries to make things about herself or/and forcefully put herself in collab, plus her spam to all the other JP holos (And Pekora saga where it was confirmed that she is holoJP reject some long time ago) is annoying. She puts her nose in everything while everyone else are chilling. Also it seems like she dropped Pekorafagging because Pekora is uncomfortable with that and it doesn't bring her fans.
Her personality seems fake on collabs because you can feel that she is trying to grab attention from people with anything.
But good for her to be the only holo who speaks JP (while also spregging about it every minute. She was mocking Mori during their first together 'collab' and trying to see all smart and smuggy which I did not like). She will stream with Subaru, but it's not that much of a thing because Subaru is the only big extrovert in Hololive and she has the most collabs.
She actually DOES reads /jp/ boards and ends up crying about it on Twitter… Which is…why
You summed it up so well, she isn’t fun to watch at all especially the Minecraft meltdown “get away from me (to a mob) see what happens if you get close to me you get hurt!!!” “I’ll just cry and cry and cry so much you’ll get tired of it just call me whining crybaby kiara crybaby kiara that’s my name”
we all think you’re crybaby kiara already kek. the teetee attempts are so uncomfortable because it isn’t Mori being tsundere she actually seems very put off by it and it DOES happen at completely random times. she doesn’t even let it go when one comment gets ignored like during the snack collab “ooooh I’m callis special snack” “you can eat me calli” she eggs it on and on until she gets snapped at. I loved how tired of her shit Amelia seemed during it.
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If she graduates simps will automatically stick her on aloe tier so hopefully her computer woes will be fixed and make everything better for her. Personally I’d have more sympathy like with other girls issues if it wasn’t something every. single. time. she. streams. she’s been complaining since day one. hopefully this pityhosting they’ve thrown at her will also be a bandaid and not incredibly incredibly cringe.
What can you expect from a cosplayhurre vlogger? It takes a certain kind of personality to do that shit to begin with.
She's a bit close to being the female version of that Charisma Man comic.
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Of all HoloEN girls chicken receives the most open hate and dislike. >>115128
Ina seems the most busy off-stream. They probably asked but she had to do something.
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sorry im too stupid to clip but no one answered sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9wkMEbtCD4
She has a couple of breakdowns each time it crashes and cries a few times but the end has the most concentrated
> 1 hr 37 min is when she complains about being bullied
> 1 hr 44 min is when she says shes sorry for herself (?) and sounds like having to read her superchat messages is torture, goes on to her "you can leave if you want, ive had 500 chances" and cries audibly
>1 hr 46 min is when shes really crying and literally begging her manager to stop. This was planned as a 6 hour stream to make up for her previous failures.
> Goes on from there to complain and blame her viewers for telling her the PC she had would be fine
Apparently shes temporarily living with her (female) manager. either way all of her equipment is terrible, her mic sounds like a headset and her poor camera placement always has her model looking down.
Shes got a lot of shortcomings she cant really fix. Bad design, thick accent made worse by mic, the "loud annoying one" character type, and no actual talent or gimmick. Her Live2D is the weakest too, Watsons is just as lacklustre but its less noticeable with her good equipment. Shes equally talentless and tryhard but unlike Kiara she can charm her simps.
Im not sure how much input the girls have on their design, but I never would have guessed Huke was responsible for hers. It looks nothing like he usually does.
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>>115146>Charm her simps.>https://twitter.com/EngVTubersOOC/status/1311501448585244674>Literal Reeing
I don't get it. That being said I wasn't too bothered by Kiara's generic-ish vtuber design until I saw the tacky sword and shield props she got.
r/Hololive must have found this place lmao>>115169
Her avatars gimmick is that she's an aspiring fast foot worker and the warrior gear is a reference to Steins;Gate (part-time warrior) since Huke designed her, but it's not like Keeki takes advantage of that and plays the role at all while streaming. Just channels her inner bird by screeching.
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>>115173>Part-time warrior.>On a character whose model can't do kicks.>No megaphone gun that looks like a chicken bucket.
Chicken makes less sense the more I know about her. 1000 something year old trying to blend into modern (English) society would have worked just fine on its own.
I mean you're right, but if they're allowed to complain about vtubers then others should be allowed to complain about them complaining. Either way we're all toxic
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Gawr Guar - senzawa (@sensenzawa)
Mori Calliope - DEMONDICE (@demondicekaren)
Amelia Watson - sachiowo (@sachi0wo)
Takanashi Kiara - Keekihime / Cake Princess 🍰 (@keekihimedesu)
Ninomae inanis - Naguri (@wooperfuri)
Damn, the ending of this is really unprofessional. I can't imagine Pekora doing this or Coco.
How can she carry on doing vtubing when she takes everything so personally?
In reality, managers always control and tell holos what to say and when to stop (what to not do) while being with them in the same call during streams. Viewers can't hear it but Holos have always been open about it.
I remember Coco used to get scolded a lot after and during streams because of how reckless she is, but now I bet Kiara is the annoying nutcase. Imagine being her manager with that attitude. She already had at least two warnings during her debut stream and she was mentioning it.
Right now she LIVES with manager because she is still moving to a new apartment in JP, also why she doesn't have her home PC with her, having the one that was given to her by manager instead. But ironically enough this potatopc specs are a bit better than her home PC, can't imagine how she would run anything.
yes, as evidenced by this archive link:http://archive.is/rvQNu
of course, archive sites don't save embeds like that so the file is gone. I would assume some goslingposter on /jp/ would've saved it whenever it was posted there but no one did, as far as I can see.
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>>115309>oversize sailor collar shirt, pleated skirt, thigh highs, hair style of that girl from kakegurui
That's more original? It's the same level of basic as most other vtubers
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She's cute but she looks like Satania lol
Kek, there's nothing original about it. I have seen the exact same design floating around many VRtubers, hell, in UTAU community and MMD community this dress texture always been popular. The other anon must be new.
This girl is also self-proclaimed 'first crab VRtuber'.>>115312
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Exactly. Even donated… 5 dollars to Kiara.
I guess she spent all of her money on the Live2D model… jk its obvious she does that for a second of fame.
I hate this snarky bitch, I can already tell by her tweets and leeching shes going to be one toxic
ass thot like poki who sends her simps to attack others
SERIOUSLY!! I thought i was the only one who thought the way she tweets and talks is super snarky i can tell she will be toxic
… cant wait to see her lose all that following she got for nothing>>115350
literally no one gets it, she didnt stream and didnt do a voice reveal yet, just dumb videos of her shaking her model
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Hmmm…maybe because you keep "appearing" in every single hololive en stream and have had "big streamer" friends constantly sharing your stuff. Yea…out of nowhere.
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supposed to be based on a crab
? Jesus, who is even designing these characters? The design could've been phenomenal if they added more detail. Pic kind of related I suppose, I looked up "anime zodiac cancer" (cancer's iconically portrayed as a crab) and found some really cute crab designs.
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She's debuting on the 24th, so I guess we'll all see by then. Part of me is really hoping not to be underwhelmed. I'm just hoping she's not an artist-turned-vtuber because all of those have turned out to be super boring.
who do u think is toxic
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bro this what u sound like rn
THIS. i know that there are JPvtubers who are attention hungry and annoying too, but the majority seems fine.
meanwhile ENvtubers feels like a dumpster fire where it's a competition to see who gets more clout and attention. a bunch of leeches and connection games and backstabbing. also bandwagon hopping with little effort just for the sake of crumbs.
not to mention that a bunch of the ENvtubers just don't feel natural at all to me. most of them try too hard to act like an animu girl to the point it's really fucking annoying. i personally dislike gawr for that reason. westerners just suck at trying to act like anime girls going "uwa!" and all uguu n shit.
This. And all the hungry leechers started making an actual "story" and shit such as: seperate account, a (not needed in their case) art or stream hashtag, along with many other things (such as calling their riggers etc mom or dad LOL) only the second after HoloEN got released. Shows that they never cared about actual VRtubing content in a first place, there for nothing but bang wagon.
They also all look the same, sound the same and act same way, too. At least the popular ones. And there are so many pink characters, or catgirls, or wannabe "guyize im lewd!! Xd ara ara big tiddy ♡" ones.
And totally agree on them trying too hard to act like anime characters.
Everything really looks like nothing but UTAU ocs back from the days the more I look at western content. It really seems like as if they are not even into it, just there to get an army of ass kissers .
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In that case it'd be the familiar dub vs sub criticism where western people can't do shrill cutesy voices which gatekeeps their vtuber dreams.
Most indie ENG Vtubers are pretty bland and don't have much of a personality or character going on, or at least one that's interesting.
So they go for the easy route. Sex sells…and simps are loyal…
denial of what LMAO
You misunderstood me here, my bad. I literally explained that if HoloEN never happened the leech-chans wouldn't copypaste all the things HoloENs are doing because they
never actually cared enough about Vtubing. HoloEn is overhyped among everyone, even normies because again, hololive is the most popular group. A huge chunk of these leechers don't even watch them, decided to copypaste everything, maybe draw a fanart on their debute for RT and that's all. (Which basically what famehungry artists did)> Hololive always calls their makers mama or papa, but the leechfags decided to steal all the shit by just looking at HoloEN (leech-chans never cared about whay Holos are doing until HoloEN happened) twitter, its their (hololive in general) gimmick.
I worded this sentence like shit, but now you hopefully get the point.
A lot of her videos use a lot of parts of what she was already streaming on twitch. As long as i know she said that for "reasons" she will leave and i can't remember if she also switched her videos to private for some reasons (i think this was said on a few streams after the announcement a lot). From my point of view she was tired of doing reviews or for some reason (probably shitty fandoms angry because random opinion about a game) she no longer wish to do it.
Her streams are still fun. they are not full hype like her videos but that's the difference between being a youtuber and a streamer.
I think that the main point was split from the youtuber side, could be because edition, having to record a review (who know how many times because mistakes) if she did it all by herself then it takes a lot of time that she could use for other things and if she don't maybe she no longer worked with the person that made the editions and they made an agreement of no longer having the videos (weird but happens). I'm okay with the idea of dodging the drama even if some people hate it because the drama goes for long and ends with getting people that only want that. This vtuber thing is an example, whenever something happens in the vtuber community western audience goes at speed of sound to ask other vtubers how they feel about that and vtubers have to choice between following the drama (could end good or bad), being neutral (mostly something like "it's too sad") or rejecting to talk about it (this is good for actual community but bad when trying to get more people, because there is allways a part of the community that goes "she don't talk about it so she take the bad position")
I kind of go away with the point but returning to it, maybe she know just wants to chill, maybe she got a full time job (as a florist maybe, she was already trying to do that) and streaming is like an extra income while she chills with chat, other advantage is that she doesn't have to deal with the "play/review this" that was in most of her videos or being too late to do a review about a game.
I'm sure someone already got an archive with all her videos
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For some reason this really triggers me when animetards do this, when they're not even interested in this genre normally. I'm pretty eclectic when it comes to music, so when Mori debuted there were all these fans who were like "I don't like rap but…" type shit. But it's my tsundere animu waifu who's doing it instead of THOSE PEOPLE is the implication. Can't stand being part of weeb culture sometimes. Sorry(and saged) for the blog post. Video related.
That's what I meant, I think I just worded it badly. I meant to say, that it's annoying when WAP and Say-So were animefied before it could be 'enjoyed' by weebs.
I like most music, Jrap/Hiphop included. I like Mori's music too, it's original. But yeah, I agree with your sentiments.
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I was just coming to the thread to complain about something similar though Kiara is supposed to be a phoenix not an actual 'chicken' (though her design doesnt really say phoenix much more than that). I think it's because when you theme your character around an animal you get free jokes and references that can be made around it. (aka a foot in to build a personality when you have no actual acting/character writing chops)
This 'moth' @ichigolemonade_ made me take back everything I said about the other 'lolibait' vtubers cause this one takes the cake. Her bio even claims she's going to be 'sfw' but with the flasher jacket, GTA hooker outfit ,uterus tattoo and art by Slugbox who is known for drawing lolibait porn I dont see how anything about the design is 'sfw'. (Yeah it only has like 30 followers but not a selfpost just a very unlucky 'Person you follow liked this')
I really like the 1st design. She looks cute and comfy. It has a bit of personality in it too even if it's just a tiny bit.
The 2nd just takes out all of said personality for the sake of looking lewd. She's now just the "look cute and composed but is actually mega horny and flirty!" trope. Sad.
That's my thought too. If they stuck with a big comfy coat, like wings, it would be super cute
Then inside maybe a romper or whatever if they choose. But the street walker look is…it's somehow simple but so overworked and ugly
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I guess western vtubers are making their own Hololive
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Alright, who's gonna be the Kiara of the group now that Rosuuri and her 250,000 followers is part of this group of very inconsistent numbers?
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She linked her artist 'mama' so that's either her personal account, or she didn't do her own model, but might still be an artist herself
I’m sure she’s not the artist that drew her model
The artist is from weibo
Slugbox doesnt draw just lolibait porn, he draws anything as long as people choose on patreon or as long as it's something overhyped. This guy has been doint nothing but leeching off big fandoms such as MLP (while never watching it but drawing his ugly shiny porn and his OC is mlp based), big chunk of which made him as popular as he is now.
His commissions are super hard to get because of how elitist he thinks he is + price and if he actually wants to or whatever. I remember he was posting a nice tweet where he would say that it's weird for people to jump on VRtuber train for the sake of clout (especially for already popular ones), saying he is not a fan of that. The tweet happened 2months-ish ago, and just now very recently he tweeted about wishing he was a girl to turn his Cteno OC into a VRtuber. And now this.
What I am trying to say is that this moth-chan is a degenerate and definitely a not sfw-chan not by design alone, but by artist choice too. She could pick anyone but chose a porn artist whose commissions are hard to get.
Seeing the Ina collab and the Mori Minecraft one I disagree with your assessment. She got Ina to talk more than anyone else in that Arknight ranking and Mori appears to me as if she's playing the straight man in the jokes rather than showing genuine annoyance. There were enough moments where they normally played the game and figured things out.
I agree with the weird tension between Amelia and Kiara though.
Youtube takes 30% of all superchats.
I think the rest is split between hololive corp and the vtuber.
I dont know how they do collab superchats tho.
Did you mean Kuzuha? His and Kanae’s stuff is pretty good. a lot of the nijisanji guys and a few of the girls and the holostars streams are pretty good. personally i would recommend a lot of holostars first gen especially arurandeisu for male streamers
sage for pointless talk
Because you aren't looking at the less known female vtubers and want to make sexist assumptions based off insecurities you have probably.
Are most of the popular female vtubers obnoxious attention whores that use baby talk and lewdness to get popular? Yes. There are many female vtubers who are down to earth and don't use lewd loli shit to get a fanbase. They don't get as popular because scrotes want to beat their dicks to someone who goes uguu onii-chan. That's just how it is.
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Yueko makes her own lolcow posts for us I swear.
i dont understand why this domo guy keep promoting artemis, his latest tweet btw https://twitter.com/domoarigathanks/status/1315347787597275136
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Poki already got herself a new model, this time with huge boobs that jiggle with every movement
If last one wasn't a rushjob to get her "vtuber debut" out while HoloEN was still trending, why is there a need to get a new one so soon? I feel bad for the person who made the first one since it got replaced so fast
Is this live2d or 3d? I can't tell. Yeah but replacing the other model so fast really does destroy any credibility towards the "I've been working towards debuting my avatar for months!!I'm not making a half assed attempt because of the timing of HoloEN!!" kek
Well Poki had always been a flake, I kinda miss her PULL thread
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She’s a normalfag trying to make herself click with the vtuber audience? Honestly if it weren’t for lolcow and her vtuber bit I wouldn’t even know her name.
The last of milk I remember from her was when she flipped out on twitter because someone made an oc/vtuber sprite that heavily referenced hers, then she proceeded to shoot down the person and throw around over-filled moodboards going "LOOK AT HOW MUCH EFFORT I PUT IN MY VTUBER OC!!! LOOK AT IT!!!" despite her vtuber oc Chai looking basic and uninspired.
Typical case of popular artist jumping on vtubing to earn more attention. She's annoying but basic af and not particularly milky.
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the only one from that atelier live group that is remotely not cringe is io, shes the only one who isnt cocky as hell/snarky as fuck/trying too hard
the fkn supreme leader one chiikadayo is absolutely ridiculous, her model has NOTHING that says leader nonetheless supreme at all. this is more laughable than that fuckin crabdere's model
it looks like she liked chiaki from danganronpas design and tried to copy it while having kokichis label lmao fucking laughable
because he's unironically trying to get into their pants, not even lying
I just thank god none of the pro Vtubers like the HL girls acknowledge him
Ugh I can’t stand Yueko now
Why are artist vtubers so cringe
I once called him out on twitter (when he's replying Matsuri's tweet with his lame joke), and his followers starting to calling me toxic
and stuff lmao.
They even said I should be grateful to him that the vtuber community has grown larger lmaoooo
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>>115800>Pink hair, yellow background.
That being said can anyone here redpill me on Klaeia please?
Run of the mill doesn’t particularly convey much here.
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What was the point of yueko making a separate account for her vtuber if she's just going to retweet every other post on her main account? I used to follow her because her art was nice but now her account is just filled with vtuber crap.
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Who does she think she's fooling with this "omg I'm not the leader! I'm just doing this for fun!" bs
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oh you're right, she should've referenced and incorporated "the supreme leader" into her design more
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her design is all over the place
> cat ears
> bat wings
> tail with pointy heart end
> sailor uniform
> supreme leader??
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Well I mean 4 of those things exist on Yui whose company KEY had some legacy to it so that makes Chiika a plagiarist if anything.
As for "supreme leader" that would mean the MC of the bunch except she isn't because there's multiple pink hairs in her group…
Why are you so triggered
someone called out your autistic take. Go over what was written again, someone is having a literal tantrum because “she calls herself supreme leader but doesn’t look like one at all!!”
A crab vtuber not looking like a crab is a reasonable take. What the fuck is a supreme leader supposed
to look like. And ftr all English vtubers are fucking cringe.
i think ur the one being too triggered
here bro relax
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Ok retard, keep vendetta posting about literal nobodies from your niche weeb community. Meanwhile the real ones wait for Coco to come back
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her jacket is downright copying chiaki nanamis with the stripes, colours and even the ears
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What the fuck happened to this thread
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uhh lol, uguubear wants a daki of her vtuber persona. she hasn't even been doing this for a month
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>>115883>55% Whining about LITTERAL FUCKIN NOBODIES THAT NO ONE WATCHES.
Silly anon, we all know that Twitter and Twitch's reporting systems are useless at enacting vengeance so people come here instead.
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Instead of milk we get the impotent rage of vendetta fags. What a time to be alive.
I'd rather bet on management. Cover wanting to boost her numbers by limiting the exposure to one stream instead of splitting the audience into two.
But other also had duo collabs that were streamed only to their channels, as well.
Apparently their collab stream this weekend will be on all channels at once
Also, speaking of our newfangled "indie EN Vtuber supergroup", Atelier Live, how long we think that's gonna last? I say a couple of months before drama tears it apart.
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Are you kidding me?
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Why is her name Minnow when she's a shark…
video for no reason other then I like it (this one has music)
It really is a shame roberu's model is so bad. It's really detailed and has this weird second bang layer above the first one. All the fanart omits the second bangs and in general makes him less weirdly detailed. I wonder if it would just be considered too rude for him to get the character model streamlined in a different style.
No? It's creepy as fuck since Senzawa posts a lot of lolicon shit. Guwa always made me just the slightest bit uncomfortable with how "baby uwu" she acts, but if the person behind her actually indulges in loli, that's so much worse.>>116015
Sounds about right.
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yeah, i just meant her first character sheet was posted in early august itself
I think there's actual drama, like coco being banned and simps stalking vtubers.
Most of the current discussion now however is just sperg nitpicking over designs lol.
>>116102> i prefer sperging over designs and unoriginality of nobodies
Making fun of designs is cool but some people in this thread are legitimately buttmad because of their mediocre success. Like “this persons designs so ugly!!! They don’t deserve a following of 500 people!!1”
It’s so small time and petty it comes off as personal friend vendetta.
Of course it's a bullshit vendetta.
This whole thread is chuck full of ass-mad spastics wanting to destroy people so far below the radar that even a degenerate like me never heard of, before i read about them in this thread.
There is nothing left to milk in this thread, either tards making shit up or bored fucks crying and nobodies.
It sill could be worse, because it was, just scroll up.
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I found it weird someone was trying to push the narrative that one of the holoENs was a nazi and spitting anti-semitism on stream. After digging through all socials I couldn’t find any mention of it. Idk if they’re a troll or they genuinely think they’re sabotaging a career.
Yeah that was bs, they said that Kiara, i think, said "Don't be such a jew" on stream during her Minecraft colab with Callie. Not only is it easy to verify but also that shit would blow the fuck up the moment the word jew left her mouth. That and some asspulls.
Literally nothing worth of mentioning happened since Haato and Coco got put on ice so tards are starting to act up.>>116123
I watched one stream, it was meh, couldn't be arsed to dive deeper tbh.
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Anyone know what the emotes looked like and who they were traced from?
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Sage because found it. I wonder how much she paid and why she was stupid enough to hire someone who wanted to remain anon
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I've only watched a few clips of Pikamee so I don't have a real opinion, but I do remember she about lolis and talked about buying Comic LO on Twitter.
People, at least on Tumblr, got assmad, as if every othe VTuber hasn't admitted they have some fucked up fetish. They'll still watch them anyway lol.>>116147
The closest we got to that was Himepen, is she still molesting her brother?
anon, kindly fuck off, no one gives a fuck if you think we're insufferable.>>116006>>116033
Her minecraft streams have had /JP/ frothing, due to the fact of how similar she plays like Senzawa, it's really disturbing, and its shocking how Cover would hire someone without realizing how toxic
the person was before hand. They forced Aloe to graduate early for less, how big of a controversy will it be when the dam breaks and the truth comes out.
how was senzawa toxic
Gura has amassed a huge following, and if we saw the numbers i'm sure because of her look and shark persona its a good chunk of children too. if she goes back to that personality of drunk and high, what kind of example does that set, also Senzawas past work with Belle delphine, do we really want gamer girl bath water in vtuber space too?
We already have enough of this lewd uwu shit in the solo en vtubers.
They're not gonna get cancelled in the Twitter sense, they're going to get doxxed to hell and back by 5ch westaboos and then have people show up at their houses like Aloe. Some of them live in Japan right now, don't forget.
Never underestimate 5ch autism.
You are beyond retarded if you think this will do anything or if this is milk worthy at all. Or you're just larping as an ass-mad no-fap trad to mine salt.
Aki Rosenthal passed out drunk on stream, and makes regular guerrilla streams where she drinks. Nothing.
Rusia, Matsuri and Roboco say nigga on stream. Nothing, becomes a meme, makes them more popular.
Matsuri sperged out about her love for lolis numerous times on her streams. Nothing.
Coco lasers out her pubes on stream while blasting herself with a back massager. Fuckin nothing.
Aloe got booted for talking shit about the industry which made jap fags ass-mad.
Are you guys even watching those streams or are you just mad coz it became popular recently? If yes then sure, knock yourselves but at least try to bring something to the table.
I can see Kiara graduating just because she's prone to posting shit about other girls who threaten her and "exposing" the industry while making herself the victim
. She's not going to any lengths to hide she's in Hololive. She just did a Fubuki cosplay and even tagged the Fubuki bday event. I honestly can't wait for the milk to come from her when she starts getting more involved with the Hololivejp girls. I can see her revealing shit about them. >>116191>>116188
The issue is drugs, anon. Japan is ridiculous about drugs. When Sawajiri Erika got caught with drugs, they spent literal weeks talking about it on the news. I know it's Hololiveen but they're still employed under a Japanese company.
And thank fuck for that, them doing retarded shit is like 90% of the appeal to the audience. But people want them to be held to the same standard so that they can be an easier target.>>116194
Anon, please. Sawajiri got busted with 18 months sentence for MDMA and LSD, we're talking about devil's lettuce here ffs. Even japs aren't retarded enough to throw a fit about low tier drug that is legal in her country. This a fuckin nothing burger.
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forgot pic. >>116197
Ok, wrong comparison. Taguchi of Kat-tun then. I'm going to drop it because it's getting off topic but all it takes is for some crazed fan to get pissed about gura's past. Despite being vtubers they are still advertised as idols and attract those kinds of fans.
I mean, culture-wise for sure, but i still think it's a nothing burger.
Considering Coco, Mori, Watame and Kanata memed about drugs, Mori while being directly asked by chat if she smokes, and Coco did a stream tripping out off her ass while on sleeping pills.
Besides all Senzawa has to say is that she was meming as well considering there is no footage only sound, and both cover and fans will trip over themselves to protect the golden goose of holoEN. It's fuckin nothing.
NTA but the point is these vtubers are NOT japanese so why are we putting japanese conditions into them?
Weed is legal in parts of North America what’s the big deal
god i hate them, the thing that ticked me off the most was when they urged us to support her (with "IMPORTANT" tag on title) after she complained about her shit PC on stream and twitter
really tired whenever i opened subreddit and had to see multiple posts about kiara or kiara / mori corny ship, if they really love her they should have create a dedicated subreddit for kiara
If you go in there not expecting the words like toxic
and anxiety all around then that's on you.
Because they're being paid by a JP company retard. They have to follow that international law. Look at what happened over just mentioning the Word Taiwan.
All it takes is one of these crazed jp fans to start making a stink and cover would do some stupid shit.
Anon wtf is an international law. Unless they are on international waters where marine laws rule then there is no such thing.
The reason they got put on ice for Taiwan was because CCP and their retarded, brainwashed commie shaft riders gut butthurt for mentioning an island their oh-so-powerful country can't pacify.
Cover had money and talent already invested in HololiveChina so they had to appease the commies to keep that branch afloat. It had nothing to do with “international laws”, it was pure fucking ass licking for cash.
Next time when you call people retards make sure the next sentence you write isn't also retarded. Or else you become what you hate.
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Ah yes the Group targeted towards English speaking westerners made by a Japanese company must abide by this supposed international law to appease a Japanese audience
You are both fucking stupid. The difference is both those vtubers were nobodies that got axed within a week of their debut. We all know Cover Corp will do anything to protect their cash cows and Gura is about to be the first Hololive ever to reach a million. Just because I'm not retarded and want to take down vtubers that currently have no milk means I am their fan. kek.
In a few days if Coco and Haachama graduate then I will eat my words that Cover Corp will do anything to protect their cash cows. As it stands right now nobody that has gotten immensely popular in Hololive has gotten the axe.
>U disagree with my asspull vendetta and demand evidance therfor u wk
Lmao faggot. The diffrence between Aloe and Senzawa is that there were tangable evidance of Aloe talking about how contracts works, talking about nijisanji vtubers cancelation etc. which obiosuly anyone with halfa brain wouldnt care about but got jap otakus assmad becaus how could you besmirch the industry that keeps their neckbeard fantasies alive. And the companies would be mad because that hurts their bottomline and possibly violates NDA.
Provide a video of Senzawa socking on that bong or GTFO. Everything else is no better then what the other vtubers actually do on streams.
I'm not even the original anon going on about Senzawa getting high, I just think it's foolish to say that a company can deny a streamers past when it's been shown before that no, they don't deny their pasts, they just get punished for whatever autistic bullshit got dragged into actual Hololive business
But keep bringing your defense squad and unsaged posts, newfag
They already do that, they are open about the things that wont harm them but Sachi/Ame already denied that she has/had a bf and denied her being Ame before privating her personal twitter. Fuck all happened. Same thing with Senzawa weed bs.
You guys seriously think that people here are the only ones with the dox and that the japs and other chans/farms have no idea? Fucking unreal.
What is the fuckin difference if the effect is the same. No one cares! Fuckin shocker!
Besides, they were denying and trying to debunk shit even with coco/hato and aloe cases. It was bs corpo speak but what else is new. Seriously give us some good shit on this or else this is just spastic impotent rage.
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Looks like Himepen is trying to start life in a new avatar @hatsukihimari.
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>>116309>6,000 subs>Legitimately has some videos with under 100 views.
Anon… you could be posting shark fanart in her Discord right now so she'll be jealous and depressed.
Oh so she just renamed her twitch channel. Well that's embarrassing.
I have so many questions. Did she not realize she's gonna get witch hunted? How is she going to stream in Japanese without knowing the language? Is she going to use Google translate all of the stream? Is she just going to make noises? Is her new boyfriend Japanese and going to do all the job? And what about 5k of her English speaking followers?
Maybe she just thought everybody forgot already. Seems like her family successfully sued her ex boyfriend's parents, he disappeared without a trace alongside the people that made the document.
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>when you’re so bland and monotone that you have to start drawing lewds of your vtuber to get people to interact
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30? try 104 (that doesn't include comms she marked as hidden).
For reference that number was at about 12 when all this shit came out, and giving her the benefit of the doubt that maybe 5 or 10 were ordered before hand, and then taking all those artists prices, thats over 6k.
not sure how the hell you got 30
I remember seeing a few of the closed artists selling their works for $500+ a piece. Also she's getting a new 2dlive vtuber model made along with rigging for her "new" debut which will be another $2000 under the belt.
I honestly believe the $30000 with how easily she's been throwing money around. We haven't take into account the money she spent on pixiv when they opened commission options. Just so funny how she lied about being poor in the past
Ina is a nice holo, she was never problematic
, just out there vibing. She never whorefames and is nice to watch.
In Gura's case Gura blew out only because of her being a uwu loli and a shark, which Japanese love a lot, along with westerns. In the end she ended up blowing so hard that she is everywhere on Facebook around normies and Xbox twitter interacted with her, along other gaming companies. However with Gura she has nothing special to offer but her singing japanese 80-90s city pop. Other than that she is the "Im a moe high pitched voice with shark avatar".
Not hating her, but I find her boring yo watch because there are thousands of "guras" out there.
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Not actively no. But you can expect some artist vtubers to ask themselves "What does Ina have that I don't?" if they go on long enough without the big numbers.
Most of them have Discords too so vendettafags should just post priestess there (or better draw her) and really depress these people.
A big company ie. fuckton of free advertising.
If they want to, they can audition as well.
>>116456>"What does Ina have that I don't?" if they go on long enough without the big numbers.
Talent?? Luck? I’m confused, why should we give a shit about nobody vtubers being insecure? If someone thinks they deserve numbers, then they’re entitled and aren’t seeking to improve themselves.
Like this is no different than celebrities, many people want to be one but chances are it’s not going to happen.
>>116460>Why should we give a shit about nobody vtubers being insecure?
We shouldn't. All I'm saying is that Ina's success as a respectable individual will be the undoing of half of these people and >>116309
has better things to do than post here.
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The GIRLS ARE BACK!!! Though their company is still low key placing blame on them. The Chinese audience is fucking terrifying how much money do they contribute for the company to cowtow this badly
If you didn't notice Pekora, along with Marine, Subaru and many others paid attention to HoloEN for a good while. Especially Marine and Subaru were always interacting with HoloEN because HoloEN were interacting with them back. There are no surprises. It looks like a stupid nitpick to me.
Korone thing would make more sense to me. She keeps streaming for 9 hours a day nonstop right now because she is so close of being taken over shitshark, wanting to get 1 million first. Fubuki is not too tryhardy about it because she already gotten 1mil off Billibli (Chinese YouTube).
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What does she even do that makes having a streaming schedule public not possible for her? A lot of hololives have different jobs and side hustles but still have time to make a schedule and stick to it. Shes seriously not cut out for streaming if she finds it hard to keep a schedule go actually stream lmao. That's literally the bare ass minimum to being a streamer and she can't even do that.
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working hard at what? making shitty beginer quality vroid models despite being one of the people doing it the longest? It's impressive doing something for so long, and not improving at all, and theres people doing vroid for a month with much better work.
not to mention the callouts she's made at other vroid creators, and her trying to pull rank at being in the western vtuber community way before it boomed
Then post the callouts lmao
All we know about this random chick is she made a 45 min video that you expect us to watch.
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Here's some of the rule Zentreya has for her stream team, including VSW has to be set as their main team on twich, or else they'll be removed for not representing the team enough. But doesn't BunnyGif/BunnyAyumi stream half the time with her normal cam? Then again I doubt she'd kick someone with that many followers
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I've never liked her work and I've heard many times she's unprofessional. Someone commissioned her for a model and she put their hair on booth as a "preset" so anyone could buy it. And when people called her out for that she got upset and said she was not in the wrong.
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>>116578>>116602>tfw you get obsoleted by convention artists wanting to hop on the vtuber train and get called "mama."
rip Argama, I doubt she'll be smiling after this year.
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Idk about the vtuber scene besides the mainstream but fuck these stats are so sad. All vtubers that aren’t backed by a company are so fucking cringe and try hard.