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The latest escapades of:
Kat Von D
Last thread >>517712
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this chick >>581693>>581818
yea, have seen ppl talk shit about her on ig and put her in a meme about being store bought punk, will have to try to find it again.
in the meantime, who wants to critic this thing she made?
erin describes herself as a model, actress and wardrobe stylist; she's one of those 'made by me' ppl when she puts patches and studs on something. when she's not dressing ~punker than thou~ she does shoots in a rockabilly/pinup style and it's pretty bland.
Well after seeing her in real life nearly 10 years ago, the plastic surgery really fucked her over in the looks department
It didn't help her personality though evidently
Some of the cows dating back to the earliest threads have never been included in the list.
Avelina de Moray
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Looks like some people still aren't getting their Kat Von D special collections still.
Not very good at directing customer relations either, is she?
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Meanwhile Sebastian is having an identity crisis and gained at least 10 pounds in the process of deciding to buy this monstrosity
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Not much info but I did find this post suggesting they were friendly last year August. There is a girl tagged as taking this photo who did go to the party, looks like she works with the brand. Whatever happened was between ppl who worked with Kat so I don’t think they are going to be public about it.
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Kat's getting called the fuck out
Also sauce on death threats from Kitty's post?
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Kaya trying to make more excuses to delay making videos
She's looks utterly miserable having to record herself doing anything
oh noes! my life is so hard because I had to wear makeup products I don't really like for one day!" guess what, kaya, people wear makeup products that they didn't really wanted to wear everyday because we don't get to skip work or get a day off unhappy hiding in our house because we can't have that eyeshadow palette from that nice brand that we always wanted to or a good foundation that actually leaves our skin with a decent color and appearance. Most of us have to play with the cards we are dealt, most girls have only drugstore brands and some nicer items we get as treats. Some girls never get nice items and - you might be shocked but it's trus - they survive!
kaya, I know you're reading this so: you live completely out of reality girl. The best that could happen to you was to live in reality but I think that you are too far gone. Just start by going to therapy, man, really, this shitty is not normal. Your whole life is not normal, wake the fuck up
Well those 10 pounds suit her at least. But who didn't had a crisis around their 25th year of life?>>582115
Well I see Kat is a mix of stereotypes about Germans and Latinos same time. >>582107
Kek, UK shoe brand the Gothic Shoe Company also is causing same problems recently. Is this becoming a trend in alternative fashion industry?
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is this guy for real
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how long until he starts vlogging with no shirt on?
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Freyja has a skinwalker.
First tweet - As he claims to have anorexia in his teens, he should realise how fucked up this tweet was. He's not a funny person, so it doesn't come across as a joke, he just sounds like a douchebag.
Second - Maybe don't post stuff like that when you have a gf who has problems with her weight, not very compassionate.
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she was still repping the brand at the start of the year
kek he's a delusional fat fuck
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Impressive that someone could actually make IBF's makeup look even worse
that'ts the kind of person that when questioned will say "it's not like IBF invented goth makeup, it's a traditional goth look, have you ever heard of siouxsie sioux? people liketo create trouble where there is none…" and act nonchalantly but secretly being super happy that people actually are comparing her with IBF because that was the whole point. In her head she can now think "yeah, I'm original like Freyja, we are birds of a feather"
When bitch, no! So tired of people who try to pull this shit off. One thing is trad goth makeup, siouxsie inspired makeup or even (to go back further) silent movie inspired makeup, it's a whole completely different thing to completely rip off one's particular way of interpreting these influences and even their fucking face shape! She's trying to mimic the shape the girl contours her face, how she overdraws her lips and even the huge mistake that are Freyja's eyebrows. FFS, even the face expressions! where did you see all of these exact things together, honey? Because if you have the guts to tell anyone that it wasn't on IBF's face it's so absurd…
I'm a goth woman (I guess most of us here are goths) and I do the trad goth makeup look: there is infinite ways you can do it that won't resemble freyja'a makeup remotely. Even when I'm like "i'll go full siouxsie today!" I NEVER looked nothing like IBF, this girl, if I saw her on the street (as I never saw IBF in person before) I would think it was IBF.
samefag becuse I forgot to add: To me, we have a new cow, I absolutely love to follow obsessive copycats antics, it's funny how they get desperate over being called out, having to desperately make something new that the person they obssess over do but trying to find a way thet it doesn't seems obvious in their head…
When Patsy was still queen of the got- How dare you? she's a deathrocker! -hs there was a super obsessive copycat who did everything exacly the same as her, she even had the exact same instagram bio as Patsy, but she substituted things like her star sign for her own and instead of "Ian astbury worshiper" (patsy's) it said "Roony moorings worshiper", it even had the exact same emoticons! hahaha I wish I had screencaped this shit!
Today, Patsy is a boring ass new age hippie who only listens to george harrison and likes tarot stuff, she seems happy, good for her, bla bla bla but SO tacky dressed! While the girl stayed Patsy like and developed her style further and looks super cool… life's ironies…
Patsy was a teenager that until like 2016 thought of herself as the epithome of goth (all the while describing herself as a deathrocker because she was from LA). Patsy was super young, not even 20 but she had a very cool look, knew her shit musically and was seen as "true" by people because well… she was. BUT she was insufferable, a reeeeeeal little cunt. She was so snotty, proclaimed around that she never had a shitty phase because according to her she was always a goth because of her parents that she claimed her mom was a deathrocker in the 80s and the father a glamrocker when the truth is a little far off from that: her mother was a regular goth (not very out there look etc) in the early 90s and her father is a rockabilly guitarrist (has a glam look for a hot second in the late 80s). She dated an older guy who was a trad goth too since she was like 16 and they both thought of themselves as THE SHIT, were rude to almost everyone. In reality, Patsy left a small but existing trail of her past cringe online, she was a fan of katy perry as a pre-teen (theres a twitter of hers) which is normal but she always claimed that her favorite band has been The Cult (she used to have an obssession with them, specially with the lead singer, ian astbury) since she was 7. There's some scene style pics of her, super mystpace style but in like 2012. She was an indie girl with waist long pink hair who liked the strokes etc, then a super quirky indie girl kinda retro who liked post punk, then she got like darker until she went full goth and she was good at that style. She used to bully other goths on instagram and tumblr when she deemed them inferior to her either because of their taste in music or style choices or because they liked something else other than goth that was a little bit cringey… Mind you, I'm not telling that she was mean because she told people that marilyn manson wasn't goth, no, inside """proper goth""" stuff she was insufferable, she was the true Elitist. She was so outrageous that she was funny as fuck. She also threw fits of rage on tumblr because of that psycho that copied her obsessively. I loved the Patsy drama, I could talk about this forever, she was a true cow, idk if lolcow was around the same time as she was but she never had a thread here. If she was active she would be altcows indisputable star, she was outrageous. But one thing you cannot deny: that girl had style. She was frenemies with Sebastian Columbine, if you knew "trad goth" sebastian that was all a poor man's Patsy, Sebastian wanted to be Patsy so fucking much.
Patsy used to post things like reblogging those "everybody has bad eyebrows days" or something with shit added like "not me, my eyebrows are perfect". She used to post vague things in response to people very aggresively on tumblr, etc.
This is just a teeny tiny summary of Patsy drama, but to wrap it up: at some point she broke up with her "soulamte" bf of like 5 years whom she lived with, disappeared for a while and turned into first a soft hipster and then she went gradually more hippie-ish, new age-ish and now she is like 23/24 and isn't a cow at all, looks like a chill girl and is left alone because she seemed not to be that person anymore
Thanks for all this info!
Just googled her, she looks very pretty
what are her social media accounts now?
I wonder what was Freyja's reaction. >>582483
Well at least she looks creepy which is mostly the point of this type of makeup.
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Like Freyja is anything original to begin with… seriously…
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And if you wonder why they look so similar to gothic lolita - they are the source material that Japanese started ripping off as they went pretty popular in Japan.
Google "Patsy Tradgoth"
and satysfy your eyes with headlines like:
>FUCK YEAH TRAD GOTH Patsy is so perfect.
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Victoria's shoops are looking less and less like her. I understand that there's contouring and posing and everyones face fluctuates but she edits her bone structure in pretty much every photo. This shit only started when she went to LA and she's thinner than ever. I hope her new boyfriend is a positive influence
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Probably a reach but has anyone else noticed this? Mister Owl wearing a coin skirt that looks exactly like one of the ones his ex wears. Does Freya have one like it? I can’t check since I blocked her on instagram after she showed up on my explore feed too many times.
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Sage for double posting but here’s a recent pic that his ex took with it.
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Is this the fucking twilight zone? Someone actually got a real ass fucking tattoo of IBF and it's exactly what you'd imagined it'd be.
Some people here likes to say that Freyja doesn't know anything about goth music with absolutely no reason as she indeed likes goth music, several subgenres in fact. If you do know goth music and watch her videos you'd hear songs from a lot of actual goth bands in her videos. There's a special weird anon here who has the biggest hateboner for her that claims that she is a poser and not even a goth hahahah
In my opinion, we can say whatever we want about IBF but she is not a poser by any means>>583578>>583580
and these prove that point: these people don't look like IBF, they wear similar "goth" makeup, none of these are emulating the exact same shapes the girl pain on her face. do you understand now?
She is saying "oh sugarpill and katvond actually likes me as a person and an artist and don't care if I make makeup videos or pictures" it's like well thats all fine and dandy for you Drac, but do you really think these brands would even know who you are if you didn't do makeup? Why is she trying SO hard to discredit her makeup like it really isn't a big deal of why she even has followers or met all these cool people.
Drac hates when people "demand" something from her, and it immediatly makes her hate something she used to love out of nowhere.. when people are like make more makeup videos because we freaking love them, she is suddenly not interested in it anymore. She acts like people are screaming and pulling her to make more videos when in reality, people are fully supportive of her and ask her because they love her stuff.
Drac only wants attention from cool brand people, she couldn't give less of a shit of all the normal people who like her stuff. Actually she seems like she finds everyone super annoying for no reason.
She truly is Katvonds little clone, a stuck up person who only likes cool people who kiss her ass and everyone else can go fuck themselves.
Btw notice how many times she said "I dont have normal eyebrows" in that unboxing, about 50 times. We know Drac, it's not really that special not to have eyebrows. We KNOW!
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Why does she want to copy someone who is uglier and in worse shape? If she got her own style she would look much better.
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She doesn't look remotely like herself anymore, she changes her face and body so much on a picture by picture basis. Her face looks shooped on here.
I cannot stand this girl. Always used to pop up in my suggested follows on Insta until I blocked it to stop it suggesting her. I get wanting to look punk, especially some of the older styles, but this girl is literally what you think of in your head when you think 'punk', which is the antithesis of punk itself, really. Cookie cutter down to the last detail. Which can be alright if you're willing to admit 'yeah, I just like the image and I'm not about the music/idealogy/etc' But it really rubs people up the wrong way if you've got the 'look' but not the balls or knowledge to back up the legitimate interest in the scene.
And that's what annoys me the most about her. There is a video of her covering perhaps one of the better known punk songs (Wild in the Streets by the Circle Jerks) - the equivalent of the scene's ABC's for basic music - and she only jumps in to sing at the line 'Wild in the streets!' after botching the intro and realising she doesn't know the words. She then goes on to do awkward 'punk' moves on stage and rips her skirt off towards the end to save face.
WTF is this shit? From the thumbnail I was expecting a genuine discussion about the different subtypes, the music and how she fits into it, but lmao obviously not it's just a retarded video of doing DUMB ONLINE QUIZZES. You can't make this shit up.
Gotta love how she purposely picks the choices that would give her the more "goth" result, or openly admitting to not knowing a single of the OG bands but then adding that she likes The Virgin Prunes after listening to them kekk bitch please yeah right.
The editing is cringy af, she's not funny and she may "joke" about being a poser but fyi kaya, YOU ARE and you know it.
I completely agree, Kaya is one of those people who haven't grown or changed as a person since she was a teenager because of her depression and being held down by living with a narcissist. Jake completely takes up all the space and energy in their daily envoriment.
If she got rid of Jake and actually took care of her own mental health by going to a therapist + actually trying to be healthy in her daily life, she would finally have space to delevop her long lost personality.
I'm not saying none of it is her own fault, she is clearly her own worst enabler, but when you're depressed it can be really hard to manage anything in your life.
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Apparently Drac is considering returning to YT but without comments open
OH wow, thanks for all that info. I have actually seen photos of Patsy back in the day but I had no idea who she was as I didn't have Tumblr back then and the only place I looked for Goth content was YouTube and that was back in the day when people like Sebastian Columbine, KillNatalie, Leah Mouse, Dumpster Dollie, Kazlovesbats (Goblin Queen), and Joji Grey / Vulture Prince were the known names.
Looking at more photos of Patsy, I can definitely see how Sebastian tried to rip off her style to a "T". Just wow, I never knew lol
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This potato lookin ass bitch went out like this and she's buying more antique tat to put in place of her personality. Isn't this a man's jacket? It's extremely unflattering either way.
"I hope I get something dumb like Mallgoth"
Haha funny because that's pretty much what she is. And of course, those quizzes were terrible but you know she'd fail if there was an actual Goth quiz. I'm so tempted to make a Goth quiz and do it right lol
I feel like Kaya is the definition of a washed up has-been. She had her time being a model until she lost her looks to her own ignorance. And don't get it twisted, I understand that people's bodies change when they get older but it's annoying when some of these people bring up all kinds of excuses for it and Kaya is a big example of this, never-mind the fact she eats a lot of junk food and sits on her butt most of the day anyway. If it was anyone else, I'd let it slide but considering how she always complained about her weight, I just had to let out.
But you're right, lady has no personality and is boring af with a narcissistic, self-absorbed potato of a boyfriend who's only claim to fame is being with an ex model who would otherwise be a big nobody.
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for those that didn't get a good look
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This is more like Ronald McDonald in drag.
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Found this one.
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jesus. compare that to the pictures she posts on her IG
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She looks like Emilia fart
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Kat doesn't look all that great herself, in fact the majority of them there looked rough.
She couldn't even wear a gold headpiece or rings, even a shawl. She didn't even smile for the photos, makes them all look a miserable lot at that party. >>586455
If she'd worn plain gold it'd have been fine but with the floral it's just bizarre
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She's so desperate for attention.
Ah yes I forgot about those freak outs. Who would be so triggered
by people saying they look better with eyebrows? Not like it's the norm or anything. She looks like a potato without.
Holy shit it’s worse than I imagined. She needs to put more effort into finding what fits and suits her body. She is too heavy so anything like puff sleeves are hard to pull off, it could only work if the bottom half of the dress had big volume to balance if out. The material is thin and she should have put a supportive undergarment to help give her shape, although really she should have gotten a better dress all together.
It’s a shame that she seemed excited for this trash bag of a dress, she is hopeless.
"Look at me I'm so special, pay attention to meee (posts 95 selfies and a heartfelt crying video in a row)"
"Ew, how dare you want me to post, fucking stalker. Blocked"
That's how both of them are in a nutshell
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So she crimped and backcombed the ever loving fuck out of this wig…just to flatten any volume it had, smooth it out and put it in pigtails? Great logic Kaya ya fucking genius.
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Why the fuck do people copy this clown? The fact that Freta can't see herself as positive without makeup so ridiculous. No wonder her relationships never lsst. Any normal person would think that wearing that face permanently has major issues. She will grow old and never be able to function in society as anything because how could you be a youtuber forever? It's not a job.. its a short term ego trip. Her fans don't pay her. Youtube us chump change. And by the way the way she says Yassss anf daaaaamn like an American is so Jeffrey Star. He wouldn't dream of being seen with her. So much cringe!
I have to agree a bit. Until the day Freya gets invited to have dinner with someone like Andrew Eldritch or Peter Murphy or something (you know, someone famous within the Goth scene outside of just being a run of the mill vlogger), then we'll see but for now, she's just another vlogger who happens to have a Gothic aesthetic and more of them are becoming common. >>588045
I think the sad thing is that if she didn't make her skin so pasty pale like that of a ghost and just kept the eye stuff, it'd look a lot better. Like seriously, why does she make herself so fucking pale? That can't be good for the skin in the long run. And I'd hope she's saving some of her earnings for the future but something tells me she isn't. And I dunno, I could see Jefferee Star hanging out with her as he's a fame whore himself.
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Need it be said that he used to look like this, so he's not much better, he's just stopped wearing eyebrows 99% of the time instead
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One of his best friends is fat and they've just announced a tour together.
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he "changed as a person, emerged as a creator"…. oh boy…
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Changed as a person? Does that mean he'll stop pointing his grubby fat sausage fingers at people? I doubt it
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yup, there's plenty of affordable ones on amazon that have a lot more texture and volume than this. i like how she mentioned that the wig looked "super cute" on the foam head but not on her and this is the style she settled on lol.
thanks to the anon who posted those drac pix, am dying that she paid $75+ for that dress and hyped up her look for the event only to show up like…that.
this isn't the original meme i found on ig and there wasn't much in the comments worth capping, but imagine enough ppl knowing you're a poser that they making something like this.
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samefag but i love that the outfit in the meme is similar to something she made. the t-shirt to body suit and plastic pleated skirt is like the only thing she does. she credits herself as mua and stylist for her own pix when her makeup is basic as fuck.
she's making more of these ~outfits~ for an upcoming event. like, how many times do you have to post about doing the same thing?
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that´s what I thought!
Kaya will never reach that level of class ReeRee has
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Random but is there actually any tea about those three graces here?
I see them all over my feed and they model for brands that I follow… anything milky?
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Gross update on Kaya wig
she has videos of her sewing this stuff, but she also claims that she 'made' something like a jacket or vest when she just added studs or whatever. also i don't know a lot about sewing but the leg holes of the bodysuit thing look wonky to me.>>588502
the ramones shirt she used, duh.
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Could she be trying any harder to copy Black Friday?
Maybe she left her friend because she was not *~witchy pagan so viking ~*
I really do not know how to take all this behaviour. I remember watching a Witch Casket unboxing and she said ppl complained before that she is no real witch and she was talking a little about her magick but yea… idk in my personal opinion it´s something very private and definately not a style choice but oh well
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kek he's wearing the coat now
why the heck is it with this jacket now lmao
(I low key want it since I saw it on Reeree but those two…ugh)
same I think they way Reeree wears it is very pretty, but on Kaya it makes her look like a Yeoman warden (beefeaters) and if thats the only pic/footage of Jake wearing it I bet its because its too feminine/weird looking on his stocky little bod for a full length image.
He looks like how every lesbian
on tumblr wanted to look back in 2014.
I was going to comment this! did he get sent one too or did he take it off Kaya?
why do they keep visiting that boat dressed as pirates? This is Kaya's third time I think and always wears the same pirate outfit
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Is her right arm shopped here? What’s with the weird bulge above her elbow?
Oh wow interesting to hear! I live in her Town as well lmao that´s why I´m a lil´ interested how she actually behaves in real life. Never seen her though since I´m more in the metal scene.
I have the impression out of all three that Mai is the most vain though
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One of her old tutorials, Angela from Night of the Demons, she drew on eyebrows and I couldn't believe what a difference it made. She looked so much better and sperged repeatedly in the video 'I'm never drawing eyebrows again!' 'Don't tell me they look good, I don't want them' 'Don't get used to them, you'll never see them again' Like okay Drac jfc God forbid someone trigger
you with compliments. She can't take anything with grace.
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This is an image board.
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I'd forgotten how horrendously thin she used to be. Not that she's big now, she was just extreme before. I wonder why she decided not to be so obsessed with it anymore?
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I just saw this now. What was ge thinking? Everything seems to be off in this picture
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Reeree just posted this and it made me remember when she broke up with her husband and I’m just being nosy but does anyone know why they broke up exactly?
I remember it getting mentioned in a previous altcow thread but only that she was apparently in sole custody of their daughter for that time or something. I’m glad they worked things out but just curious does anyone know why?
"I'm going to start trying to lose weight"
I thought she tried to claim that she was losing weight when she went vegan
cbf to watch the entire video, what did she say that was racist?
my favorite part is when she was talking about how much she hated being in that house and then sighed really loudly.
Can you imagine being tethered to someone like that? If they break up for good there is the looming threat of her committing suicide or harming herself. Reeree is not milky in the least bit, but that is a huge responsibility to put on someone else. Especially since it seems he has his own mental health issues as well.
I really hope those two are going to counseling.
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I Feel like this person is who Bianca aspires to be. She’s way better at the no eyebrow look. Drac isn’t the special snowflake she wants to be.
ah, yea like others have said, it seems she's just using that as an excuse for her attitude.>>590914
right, a room has four walls and she doesn't have a single one that she can film in front of? and then bitching about how her mom took over the one she was using to show off outfits. is there no outside space she can use? seems like she was trying to blame everything but herself for lack of videos.
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I don't get it, why would she put on something that makes her shoulders so much broader and hips narrower? She could wear something puffy on the bottom, that would make her look so much better and less like a log. Pencilskirts just don't suit everyone, especially with that type of figure of hers. All this wardrobe - and what for?
I mean, I can kinda see the point of >>591404
in that she is a triangle so emphasising that isn't good but she does actually look lovely for once. Although someone posted a photo with her and called her a goddess which is stretching the use of that word juuuust a little
Well, yeah, maybe this time she does look better than usual, but she always dresses this way, and, sorry, I just don't get it, why would she still emphasize flaws of her figure after years of being out of shape and dressing the same
IDK I suppose I can only wish her to lose this weight at last
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She looks nice, it seems she really lose some weight not much but stil
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I don't know what Battybooty is like but her makeup is always really bad, her outfits aren't much better and don't suit her shape or size at all. Claims her makeup is art, and while I know art is subjective this is just straight up badly done.
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This is why Freyja thinks a lot of herself, because a handful of people speak about her like this. Her ego needs no encouragement.
No idea, maybe just not their thing. Like I like Freyja's regular makeup but most people hate it, even though I think here >>592038
It was pretty bad just a black oval yet I'm sure lots of people liked it
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Could be it's not in their taste. But I must say I feel like there is general shift toward more normie makeup and look. Yet I feel it really strange if someone tries to "attack" a goth because of weird look. Seriously? What do they expect? Selene from the Underworld or Snow White? Goth is a god damn punk descendant. Triggering
look is a very part of it and by attacking it such people are actually taking the bite.
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>>592110>I think things have just become more refined in time because it doesn't scare people anymore and it doesn't cause controversy the way it used to so people have started becoming more interested in blending
To be honest I think it still stirs controversy but in different way. And comments like we have here about that type of makeup only illustrates that point. >>592115
>And not everyone is confident enough to do extreme makeup,
Thats a good point I have seen nowadays this type of makeup only on people with extremely "I don't give a fuck" attitude. Like Mattias - if you have even seen him in real life you would know what I mean. He is just emanating that attitude with every movement of single muscle.
> some just enjoy darker 'regular' makeup like Drac does or ReeRee. Tastes change, people change and taste is very subjective
Well I didn't was alive for too long in the 80s to actually remember them, but I would not say that such makeup was that much mainstream. It was popular among popstars to some extent but to say it was more acceptable isn't like going kinda over the board? I may of course be mistaken I remember only most of the 90s.
But whatever my point is still that not liking someones makeup is not a milk material.
I love Matthias makeup, he's a friend of a friend and has always seemed nice and indeed very confident if a bit of a flirt. That makeup was more common on musicians and otherwise famous people and people well known in the club scene, we didn't have the money in the 80's to look that extreme all the time honestly. I dyed what I could find in the thrift stores of old night gowns and grandma clothing then cut up and sewed it, had one eyeliner in black, one blue and one green and pan stick in the lightest; that was what I did my face with. Not everyone was in the same position of course, just my experience. I know no one cares but yeah, the scene was more spread out and focused in cities at least in Europe but who was in it was really in it. Maybe it's more popular today and that's why we have such diversity in makeup. I think it's good to see evolution as not everyone has done so, people still wear extreme makeup and people are also free to do whatever they want to their face. Even in the 80's not everyone wore crazy makeup or makeup at all, clubs weren't specifically goth and played other new wave so we had people like cureheads and punks too. No one is making fun of that girl, or even really talking about her anymore. Someone posted a photo, people thought she looked fine, we moved on and it devolved in to a what is goth makeup and what isn't conversation. Carrying on talking about it draws negative attention to her which is not a good thing, so I don't disagree with you on anything I just think dropping the topic would turn attention back to actually milky things. I know I'm not helping by giving my experience and that's hypocritical of me.
What patsy skinwalking?
honestly I don´t know what he is trying to be nowadays, and I don´t get the fetish fashion either plus it´s not really pleasant to see on her…
Don't think it was cheating, personally, but I don't get how you say there was "barely any evidence" of a breakup?? If a woman who is married with a child says she is learning to be a single parent then I would think that's evidence enough.
Although she technically wasn't ever going to be a single parent considering she would be co-parenting with her husband obviously. I just think she overreacted the situation because they had just gotten married a couple of months or so prior and maybe they were going through emotional changes and life changes and it just got overwhelming. Just my theory. Either way, they definitely were separated for a short amount of time and it's not speculation.
>>592192>and I don´t get the fetish fashion either plus it´s not really pleasant to see on her…
With proper makeup she is actually pulling it off quiet OK considering her natural shape.
>What patsy skinwalking?
a reference to her tradgoth era I assume
from what theyve told me, he talks over people a lot, is just really rude like would tell people to shut up a lot. i would say 5'5 5'6 but thats only compared to my friend but theyre very short. jake and kaya are the same height, she just wears platforms 99.9% of the time. as far as im aware completely cut ties, hates his family and his old 'friends' but that was because his family were abusive mentally i think? like just not nice people and his friends were all 'fake'
and i asked about the foot rumour thing about a stranger cleaning their house and theyd get to lick/smell kayas feet, from a few threads ago. to my friend it seems like unfeasible, as kaya seems to not like touchy feely things, let alone a stranger touching her
Thanks for all the info anon! Although I am pretty sure Kaya has mentioned previously that she is somewhere around 5 ft. 10 in. give or take. We are the same height and build!
Jake doesn't surprise me in the least. The way he acts on camera just seems like the way he would be in real life. I'm anxious to see the types of ppl they are in 5 years or so. They're the type that think their lives are over at 30. They can barely handle mid 20s.
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I don't know why I thought she would make a better job of this, but this outfit is at least 10x worse than I thought it'd be. Bitch looks like Crystal Tipps
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I know I'm talking about a 70's cartoon that no one gives a fuck about anymore but it's all that comes to mind for me
From what I gathered between her Instagram posts, video comments, and his Instagram posts at the time, it seems that they were both having some mental breakdowns.
Right around the time that the whole split happened, he made an Instagram post with pics of him looking really gaunt. The entire posts was talking about depression.
So, it seems really likely that the two of them just went through a really low point around the same time and one of them snapped, causing a dramatic temporary breakup.
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Found the Instagram post.
the black brows don't work and overall the wig already looks old due to the shitty excessive styling.
jake's new vlog is super cringey, doing the same shit as he was before, terrible editing and those gross contacts do nothing for whatever aesthetic he's trying to do.
So many people have come forward about them although it's fairly obvious from his shitty vlogs he's an insufferable, self absorbed cunt. He actually said in one of his story time school videos he didn't have friends because they were, and I quote, "jealous" of him. topkek he's so deluded. Also not surprised they slag off anyone better looking than them, they used to fat shame after all (karma, they're both fucking fatties now). I wonder how much they slagged off the girls they hung around with at London Edge?>>592385
Didn't at least two people confirm the feet thing? From what I gathered they weren't "feeling" her feet just taking pictures of them and smelling them, so not too much touching involved. It's not like she prostituted herself so I reckon she would've been ok with it as it would've be an easy way for her to get money and have the house cleaned for her (the guy would clean her house and her feet was his reward apparently). Jake probably put her up to it, foot pimp kek.
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"please keep sending me money and free stuff so I can continue to be a leech on society"
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oh god the start of Jake's new vlog when he's holding a box cutter and starts talking Japanese.
and then there's the 50 different shots around his room in the space of 4 seconds. He only has one camera which means he had to stop recording, move and set up his camera, go back to unboxing for a second, stop recording again, move his camera etc etc. fucking terrible.
"I really need a maid but I don't think anyone does that in Belfast" clean up after yourself. there's only two of you living in that house. why do you need everything to be done for you
if Jake is so concerned with losing weight why doesn't he just get a bike and cycle into town? what's the point of being on a skateboard that does all the work?
how many times does he get his hair cut? how much money goes towards that every time?!
he payed £39 for a hideous faded rug. more money well spent.
I don't know why I continue to watch his vlogs. he makes me so angry. he's such a fucking waster
jesus christ though did anyone get screen shots of that? It was a trip. She spilled all this personal information about her sister up to the very bus line she was on and the time she was on it. Like what the fuck? There’s a reason a lot of people don’t report bullying and it’s because it’s fucking humiliating to admit. But here’s ree ree spilling about her fatty little sister and all of her mental health issues to 178k strangers. And then she had to go and put a name and a face on the poor girls humiliation.
You know what would probably be better for her self esteem? If beloved big sister got some damn help and didn’t have a mental breakdown every time she gained an ounce. I’m sure thats sending her some good messages.
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Didn't get a shot of the story as I didn't watch it but I just saw the aftermath when apparently she lost a bunch of followers for calling the girl bullying her sister a 'cow'. Which to be is kinda silly as if they knew how much weight ReeRee has lost and how much she struggles with her own self confidence, and maybe thought outside of America for a second and realised that over there Cow doesn't mean fat it means Bitch basically.
Had? That girl is in deep denial. She still has an eating disorder and relies too much on strangers for validation. >>592714
Holy shit, she went into that much detail? Reeree, that does not make you look like a hero…
Honestly I was wondering why she was getting unfollowed like that. The guy deserves to be called a lot of things. That’s a really shitty situation with her sister and I feel bad for her. What is bothering me is how getting teased about something that’s as touchy as weight is a really terrible situation and i would be pissed as hell someone I trust gushed about it to an assload of strangers on the internet.
Did her sister give permission to say all that? She could have easily ranted without giving all her personal information like that. Lord knows ree is ambiguous as fuck when it comes to her own problems.
When I heard her talk about her eating disorders and struggles with self image, the whole vegan thing started to make sense. I really think she only does it to keep a lower weight.
The IG story was just a shitshow. Going on a rant and insulting someone for insulting her sister. She went too into it with her little sis and her problems. Now we know what bus route she takes, she has been bullied for weight and eczema and she has also tried to kill herself a few times. I couldn't imagine even considering putting my sister on blast like that.
Her sister was in that photo but I just didn't think it was fair to post her here even if it's a public photo. Everyone gets bullied at some point but her sister is 23 and still attempts suicide over one incident of someone calling her fat. I think they both have some serious issues and I wish them the best but posting it on instagram is never the answer. I respect her for standing up for her sister but this anon >>592747
is right, it was a bit extreme and she went on this big rant while taking her daughter to school about how she's nearly lost her sister so many times and how no one deserves to go through what she goes through. I'm kinda of the opinion that that's just life and everyone goes through some kind of shit like that. No one goes through life being liked by everyone. In her early-mid 20's she should have a better handle on it frankly.
Bitch, Batty booty looks amazing, what the fuck are you talking about?
Goth was never about "edgy" looks applied perfectly, this is an instagram invention. DIY and ragged looks are very much a part of true goth look. A goth sure doesn't need to look properly done in any way to look amazing, the overall image is what counts. Are you a teen or not involved with a real scene? Choose one
I noticed. That was a good call. Though if anyone sees the picture on insta, look into that girls eyes and tell me she doesn’t look deeply uncomfortable. She probably didn’t want her picture taken and plastered on social media.
This kind of makes me wonder if ReeRee has a narcissistic disorder. I mean we don’t know how her sister feels about this situation at all. We’ve only heard about how ree feels about this situation. For all we know her sister might just be like it was a shitty bus ride and shrugged it off. We only know about how she has felt in the past. Ree is definitely making this her own problem. That topped with how obsessed with her appearance to the point of an eating disorder and CONSTANTLY victimizing herself, she seems like a narcissist.
It would make sense why her and her husband would get into a tift and she would immediately start talking about being a single parent. She needs people to feel bad for her.
It’s actually really sad considering most narcissists come from abuse or broken households and we know that about her.
Saged for long speculation
when he's out and has shots of him walking or whatever up to the camera, he has to do the same thing and i wonder if ppl are looking at him like 'wtf' is this guy doing. >>592735
if he's going to put this much effort onto a vlog, at least he could do something new once in a while. what happened to the drone? that was probably the only thing i liked.
Sounds like quite the sight lol
Just go Kawaii style Kaya, we know that s what you really want to do lol
I think Freya is pretty, not a work of art but her face pleases my eyes, even without make up on. Kaya is just plain from the front and kinda weird from the side but nothing hideous, she's average. Adora has a weird angular face in a good way for me. Sebastian looks retarded because of her mouth, she should really look into lip fillers plus braces. Avelina would be average to pretty if it was not for whatever the hell went wrong with her face and stretched it for her to look like a fucking horse, it's extremely weird! ReeRee looks like a pig, her face disturbs me, makeup does help her a lot tho… Jake looks like he has light down syndrome and of course, looks like a thumb… or a big toe! Drac makens is another that looks retarded because of her mouth, she's extremely average but the way she NEVER moves her top lip when speaking + her dead eyes makes her look like napoleon dynamite gothified.
Am I forgetting anyone? kek
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lol I realise that opinions on looks are subjective, but come on. You have to admit that out of the YouTube "goth" community, ReeRee is probably the most attractive one.
I personally think she's very striking even without makeup. Everyone else looks like they have body odor and don't know how to wash between their fat folds.
Agree,just check out her tumblr she always talk down on people and gets triggerd easily on the dumbest questions even compliments trigger
Psychara said before on her Instagram that she was never buying new clothes to help the environment and only make clothes in the future (this was last year) a month or two later she then posted a Killstar or Iron Fist dress with some New Rocks
No one seems to have called her out on this though and has recently stated she only collabs with Attitude Holland, but she never states her new dresses etc. being sent by Attitude Holland only except in hauls and when posting promo pics
What about some smaller people like LigeiaResurrected, TheLuciferFallen / LVCI, Coalcandy etc.
I agree so much about Sebastian in particular, her face is so unfortunate, especially when she’s talking. Her mouth is so weird.
Cmon name one chick that is prettier than her in goth yt scene
I know you know she is fine as hell just because you dont like her personality you dont have to lie lol
I mean her facial structure is almost perfect?
Sounds about right lol the only legitimate goth YouTube I find pretty is Angela Benedict and she's not a cow. For someone pushing 40, she looks dang good. I'd not think Drac is pretty at all and its even worse when she does the no eyebrow look, she just can't pull it off at all.
Oh you forgot Ofherbsandaltars. I think that some of her looks are rather nice and creative. I'd rather look at her than Drac to be honest.
And Sebastian is one that always shocked me. She looks good with makeup but without it, she looks like a completely different person. I think she pulls off her current look just fine, just kinda cringe wearing the BDSM harness out in public, a choker is fine enough lol
She looks like she lived in Chernobyl her whole life just no..
Even drac is cuter than her
Eh I suppose. ReeRee doesn't look that bad and I like when she does more romantic style makeup, it works for her. I just don't consider her a goth but just darkly inclined but yeah, her look isn't the worst. I just think Angela Benedict has the most refined look. Allison (Goblin Queen) also has some pretty striking looks as well.
Jake and Kaya look average at best but their personalities make them even more unattractive.
And Freya, I really don't like her all that much anymore but I do think she has a pleasant face and makeup style now compared to 3 years ago. Makeup is subject and I know a lot find her look unpleasant but I actually think the opposite. Her problem is that she doesn't experiment much like with the Kat Von D event. But aside from that, I'd rather look at her face than that Mansonite gutter look that Drac sports, eugh…
Avelina looks odd because of her Sarah Jessica Parker length face but I can't stand her because she represents everything I hate about pseudo Goths.
Is that you ReeRee? kek
ReeRee looks weird without makeup. I think Angela, Amy Nekrotique and LigeiaResurrected are the "prettiest" I've come across, and Freyja looked pretty in her early videos with the more toned down gothic makeup looks. now she just looks like a caricature
More to the point though, why are we even discussing their looks? Who gives a shit?
Ligeatheresurrected, I've watched her since she was a senior in high school. I think her look has come a long way since then (she used to do mallgoth type makeup but has cleaned up since then)
Snowylowther, ever since the music thing, I don't much care for her but I can admit that she is pretty, her makeup goes quite nice with her hair color, very striking.
Coalcandy, he looks okay.
Sara Monster, don't consider her goth but darkly inclined. She is quite pretty, beautiful makeup style imo
Amy Nekrotique, for another person pushing 40, she looks rather nice.
Victoria Fashen, love her makeup burbi biased since I like the more refined, romantic look.
VulturePrince, never was a fan of his look, it always looked so tryhard to me.
By normie standards it would be Angela Benedict. And I think you exactly mean normie standars. Don't you? Plus I hardly see too much goth in her look. Just darkly inclinedd generic look.>>594534
Drac is pulling no brows OK per goth standards. >>594547
Whatever, goth look is not attractive to normies, so who cares for your perception?
tl;dr; some samefag is trying to show us that they do not get at all the point of goth makeup. And succeed at that.
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anyone else find it weird that erin wears white laces in her boots?
for those that don't know, it's a thing racist/white power/no nazi scumbags do. like yea, not everyone will take it that way but why even go there when she could've just kept them black?
also that mohawk tag is killing me.
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Oh I forgot about Kristiana. I agree, she looks awesome but yeah she hasn't been active in months on YouTube.
I also agree with Alien Queen of Darkness. I think she looks pretty cool too though I liked her look better with black hair instead of the neon green.
I second the other anon about sageing. You don't even need to read the rules to learn how to sage since it's mentioned numerous times in every thread to you newfags.
Also, why the fuck are we rating who the prettiest cow is?! Nobody gives a fuck. Let's try to stay on topic here, can we?
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got it, tho not a reach like someone suggested since a quick google search brings up a bunch of pages that discuss the meaning of white laces in boots. definitely wasn't trying to suggest she was racist or anything. >>594675
it might be b/c her hair is so long, but a lot of ppl who have liberty spikes usually have small sections like in this pic.
Yeah, her sister had her face posted, her mental afflictions which doesn't just mean her depression etc. just for Ree to feel smug about it
Yeah, way to go for "supporting" your sister, Ree you complete and incompetent buffoon
There was this one British woman called something "doll" but she put on this glamorous burlesque gothic look but only pretending to be goth like ReeRee, in her videos she even stated how "goth is whatever you want it to be" and all that crap
Even she was subjectively better looking than Ree, and she was so condescending and annoying to boot
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is BF a fucking lobster?
That's not nitpicking, >>595065
Genuinely looks like a hand of satan wth
How does one even get burned on the palms of ones hands?!
IBF actually goes to gigs and seems passionate about her favorite artists. Dre's favorite bands are MCR and Queen so yes, absolutely not a goth.
Adora goes to gigs and is a fan of various bands, more 80s and synth but from her short-lived (because of copyright issues) "TV show" about her favorite music, she has good taste.
Goth is absolutely about the music, anyone who says otherwise is pandering. A lot of IG Goth types don't seem to even listen to music. There's one called postpunkspunk who is a IBF influenced girl and her music taste is, surprise, post punk which is a different genre entirely. With some overlap (Siouxsie for example, but a band like Gang of Four would hardly be considered Goth)
Quite a few of these goths use captions of basically pop songs under their IG posts, the whitehaired elf dude does that
Adora has always considered herself Synthare too so she does recognise that her taste is not strictly goth. It always seems like people pull out "SHE'S NOT EVEN GOTH" when they dislike someone, not because they're not in to the music or culture but simply because they don't like them and don't consider them 'good enough'. >>595102
That was a crazy 180 transformation too, clearly only doing it for her boyfriend. Who ended up leaving her for a way prettier trans girl and Eva then slagged them both off for months out of bitterness.
She kinda acts like a teenager that never grew up.
I can't stand half of her tattoos she's seems to get either really good ones or super shit ones.
She seems like a nice and sweet person but it drives me nuts the way she calls everything goth. I'm probably just nitpicking but whatever. She calls herself a goth (or "gothic mermaid" whatever that is) but she has no interest in goth music at all. Anything dark or black? She calls it goth. I just find it irritating.
Her tattoos seem to be well done but they're quite childish and random
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It's not really the looks though yes, they're subjective as yeah, I can tell that Drac is Goth, she's just a pretentious asshat who thinks she's more important than she actually is (her drop in YouTube subscribers are a testament of that). Same with IBF, I know she's Goth because hate or her not, she actually does get involved with the scene and has some Goth bands she likes. So despite her being a bit grating and insufferable at times, she's a Goth.
But you're right on the money with Kaya and Dre (And Jake), they're obviously poseurs who are only relevant because of clueless Babybats or fellow Mallgoths like themselves. >>595107
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Honestly I've only watched a handful of her videos outside of the Snog, Marry, Avoid segment she was featured on. From what I've seen, she seems nice and all but I have to agree with >>595290
, I've noticed she labels everything "Goth" and it's just fucking irksome and triggers
me lol I also have noticed she doesn't seem to listen to Goth music but plenty of Metal (why am I not surprised). I put her in the same camp I do ReeRee, just darkly inclined Metalheads.
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I know it's Kaya's wig and she can do whatever she wants with it but I can't help but find it disrespectful that a company would send her a very expensive wig for free and she would completely change it and make it look cheap.
I wouldn't work for her again if I was a part of that company
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Jake probably takes ugly pictures of her on purpose
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do you think Jake and Kaya lurk here?
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He knows the angles she hates and so deliberately goes for those just to upset her. I wouldn't be remotely surprised as the only thing they get out of their relationship is hating each other these days. They're like the fucking Twits, they live to make the other miserable.
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Ironic that she used Synthetic Doll when she was so fake at her core. From pseudo goth to christian bridal makeup artist in just a couple of years. Quite amazing how much she changed honestly
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Freya, watching the Kardashians and admitting she has done nothing to be famous for or liked for. Aint that the truth. She does nothing…. i'd be pretty embarrassed. WHEN are these projects happening? It's quite hilarious. What a nobody.
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KVD - I don't invite people based on how many followers they have! HA! ARE YOU JOKING? Such lies.
Well uh you're on a gossip site, what did you expect to see here? lol As far as the comments on their looks, it's entirely subjective at the end of the day but as far as Kaya and Jake, it's obvious they aren't Goth because Goth is not just about looking spoopy, it's music-based first and foremost and in order to be Goth, you have to at least listen or like the music. No you don't have to listen to it every day but just you know, have some likeness for it and it's obvious these two jokers don't.>>595574
Exactly, you don't have to only listen to Goth music and frankly, I have not met anyone who has thought this but just that you have to have likeness or enjoyment for it. And I think Carl is living with another girlfriend no? I think Emily talked about him in a followup video but I don't remember. >>595592
Whoa no kidding lol I had no idea she changed so drastically because like I mentioned, last I saw was when she changed her YouTube name and came back looking like Taylor Momsen's long-lost sister or something. Just wow… Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was only into Goth for the look and to impress her boyfriend at the time. I will say one nice thing about her though, she did look good all Gothic. Just too bad it was shallow.>>595603
Yeah I mean I get it but still, it really speaks volumes when you notice you've done nothing of actual substance or merit. Vlogging is nothing special and everyone does it these days. I completely forgot that she went to film school. I seriously wonder if her work or ideas would be any good. >>595606
Bullshit, so much so you can see the crap spewing from the corners of her mouth when she said that. >>595683
Well poseur or not, at least she actually does something mildly interesting (travels to interesting places) instead of sitting in her room moping about her weight (Even when traveling) and can feign some interest in the music (playing it in the background).
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What the hell is a "Gothic Mermaid" supposed to be anyway? Having blue hair doesn't make you a mermaid hun, and wearing black doesn't make you goth. She always takes these unflattering photos and makes the same faces in her vids, but people fawn over her piggishness as she burps, shows her hairy legs, talks about farting and generally being a disgusting human being. I don't see the appeal.
I've been watching Leah for over 8 years now and every time she gets a new boyfriend she starts acting differently. It's really clear when you watch vlogs of her with Kevin then with Derek now with her new bf I don't remember the name. Her content is so boring now, she doesn't even try anymore.
I haven't watched the video, but I guess the friend is Kevin. She always tries to be friends with her exes, but she's so different when she finds a new boyfriend that I don't think it works.
Why do bland white girls hang onto these ancestry sites and tests so hard these days, is this the new trend to fake having an actual personality?
Having ancestry all over the world doesn't make you special, everyone in the entire world does! Having ancestry in a country within the last 200 years doesn't mean shit, it doesn't make you a part of that countrys culture!
God i'm so tired of these bland girls being like "omg im totally 17% german and 1% west african on ancestry.com im actually mixed race" stfu!!
sage for rant
The friend is someone named "Forrest". Never heard of him before. The fight they got into must have been pretty bad from what she said in her video.
And I totally agree with you that she changes her personality for her boyfriends, I noticed the same thing too. Maybe there's some trouble in paradise with her current boyfriend too, as she suddenly started changing her hair and makeup and has never done that before to that extent.
Seems like there's some misunderstanding about what Snowy Lowther said in her video. She basically said that music is not that important and you can call yourself goth without liking the music, so she expressed the same opinions as someone like Toxic Tears. Which pissed Angela Benedict off (and rightly so) and she reacted to that in her video.
It seems that Snowy felt a need to appease her fans and didn't want to look like an "elitist". But it was really disappointing to hear her saying that, because she actually listens to the music and therefore isn't someone who's in it just for the looks.
glad someone else mentioned this, but yes, some ppl can't do makeup at all and could find this helpful. tez does tutorials for simple looks all the time and the comments act like it's a super complex avant garde look.>>595472
this was hard to watch, but it was funny that she didn't seem to realize why the wig looked different on the foam head vs her own. the best part is she ruined it to make a transformation video and i'm sure we won't see it at all in a few months.
I'm that anon..I gotta admit my mistake. It's been a while since that shit went down, and I do remember Angela posting a really good video and forgot it was in response to Snowy's video saying basically "eh don't need the music" woops!
And I think some people misunderstood me thinking I meant you have to ONLY listen to goth to be goth and I def never said that.
Sorry Allison but you're just another regular white American mutt.
Emily Boo is OK to me - she's cute and seems genuinely sweet. But I agree with anon who said she is basically like a teenager, she's also an emormous shopaholic - where does she keep all that stuff she buys in her hauls? There's tonnes of it. I know she works retail and I don't imagine her or her husband are loaded when they have a child, their house must just be packed to the rafters with all her shite.
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The only thing cute about this fat bitch is her daughter. I don't know how somebody can revel in how gross they are, and her husband looks like he's never bathed a day in his life. They both look like they stink. Lots of Youtubers respond to their fans. She's not special in that respect. This is also the person who made a whole video on suffering from anxiety if she thinks she isn't the most alternative person in the room or freaking out if people can't look at her and think to themselves how utterly alternative and Gothic she looks. She also bases her entire identity on her blue hair, because of course she wouldn't be a "mermaid" without it.
Postpunkspunk is not a pretty girl. Yikes.
But post-punk is always what goth was. Those bands that bridged 77 punk to post-punk don't always seem goth, so i see what you mean. No one is going to call wire or pil goth. Kinda like no one is going to call post-punk revival goth, like preoccupations or editors. But they all have the same sound. More "goth" than goofy fucking spooky 90s darkwave imo like Incubus Succubus.>>595543
Hi jake. You're not goth. Quit listening to pussy metalcore and listen to black metal (not cof) like an adult.
Kaya says she hopes she gets sent another blonde wig because she's going to miss having it.
as if that company is going to send her another wig after the pink mess she turned hers into.
She can't look good in regular photos so pulling stupid faces is meant to make her seem 'cute' and 'funny' in a 'dorky and adorable' way but in reality just uh, yeah, that face happens. >>595982
Fucks sake , UCG is literally a joke Adora made and now calls her and her friends that people have run with to make themselves seem more important and 'more goth' while doing precisely nothing but labelling themselves and think she's being totally serious. That's pretty embarrassing that she's insecure enough to make a video offended over a joke.
She didn't make a whole video dedicated to UCG but in one video of her "hates" she mentions it, still fuckin dumb>>596175
Oh jeez she actually went out in public like that? I'm sorry but if I saw her I'd think she was legit mental. Was that the only reason she got the wig, to do this transformation video? I'm sure once she's bored of the wig she'll toss it aside and it'll never been seen again, kek
she couldn't put her mic in a decent position prior to recording?
it's painful aside from the pastel puke in the video
if she didn't ruin that gorgeous blond wig and just adorned her head with some cute silver chain adornments then she actually could have done something quite cute. too bad its kaya here
samefag but if she actually contoured her nose with some ashen shades. she could have worn that bandaid on her nose a lot easier as a result
especially if she is as self conscious about her nose as she makes it appear
i feel so sorry about that wig
i hope it was a nightmare for her to remove after tbh
>>596175>everyone is staring at me
bitch, don't act like you don't bask in your 'oh so weird ~uwu~' gawks by those 5 peope who cared
>if i was smaller and less chunky
then go and start walking for a minimum of 30 minutes per day and run up some stairs/lift some low tier weights for some resistance training
she could see some fucing result by now in the 2 years she's been complaining about it
i mean even IBf and her keto shit, if kayay did such bullshit but bothered to work out at the same time as low carb then she'd see some results (regardless of how short term that may be) she might just shut up about it for a while
maybe she can beg some skinny tea companies to sponsor her instead, bts being placed on whether she would even complete stage 2 tho
/rant over this lazy bitch
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Unrelated as it's not milk but I think Freyja looks stunning here
Eugh… I want to like Allison and she seems like a pleasant person but why does she do this?? Just why? It's just embarrassing. It's okay to be into other cultures but what she's doing is equivalent to what Anime fans do with Japan and become Weeaboos. Like seriously, she just needs to chill on the "I identify with this and that" nonsense. >>595828
I think the only reason she has appeal is because she's known as "That goth girl who got on tv". Had she not been on Snog, Marry, Avoid, she wouldn't have near the fanbase she does now considering nothing really sticks out about her. She'd just be like Kaya in the sense that real Goths will see through her BS and the only people who'd watch are Baby Bats, Mall Goths, Normies who don't follow subcultures, and Scene/Emo kids. Hell, I'm pretty sure that's what makes up her audience right now.>>595837
I miss when she did more active videos back when she was with her ex-husband. Her vlogs are just not that interesting in my opinion. I can't comment much on her content now because I stopped watching her back last year when she started doing nothing but vlog videos and it doesn't seem like she's branched out since then. >>595868
The truth is real here. At this point in history, most people are mixed with something and it's not as special as it once was. >>595878
Eugh I was hoping I'd never have to see that video again LOL Snowy was just being a gross panderer to appease her young MallGoth fans.I agree, it was so disappointing to see her sell out like that because she actually listened to the music and was nothing like Kaya or Jake. I'm glad that Angela called her out and stood her ground on the matter along with the other smaller Goth YouTubers supporting her. >>595910
Doesn't Emily get sponsors? >>596020
LOL I didn't even think to notice that. Freya's not even a Vegan and I never heard her talk about Animal rights activism. Kat Von D is just eugh… I'd have more respect for her if she kept it real and said something "I like the looks all of you do" or something like that. >>596124
LOL I actually like 90s darkwave like Switchblade Symphony and The Frozen Autumn haha But I get what you're saying. >>596126
I seriously hope they don't send her shit. She totally destroyed that wig and she'd be lucky to get another one that she'll end up destroying anyway. >>596175
Pretty sure she's trying to copy IBF and Of Herbs and Altars when they did their transformation videos. But yeah, she should just come out and stop being a poser Goth.>>596181
Fair enough. True that as we alternative people age, we tend to either adapt our styles for comfort or we stay the same. >>596199
Okay LOL. Still not a big fan of hers but yes, she does look quite nice here. She should try more looks with her hair down. I actually do like her Birds nest hairstyle but she's done it for so long that I think she should try changing it up a bit.
I haven't kept up with her at all after I unfollowed her for her fake "i'm so goth" persona busllhit
but damn she went full obese and gappy toothed after everything. she aged about 20 years and I didn't expect that
Thanks for giving me a close on what the heck happened to her
She's a trainwreck
yea i feel dumb for posting it now but live and learn.>>596175
when she shows the rights and talks about the cute print that includes needles, wtf. also low key mentioning how she doesn't have a lot of clothes in that style, like stop hinting for free shit already.
Adoras former husband recently switched his Facebook status to divorced.
She not only spent valentines day, but also new year and her birthday away from home.
Really wonder what happened to this magical forever love and who takes care for the kids, now that she travels so much. Would be unfair if her former husband now makes the money AND takes care for them.
Anonymous 43 seconds ago No. 596522>>596513
I mean, I get it. Marriages can end. But going from "we never had a fight in our relationship, flirt all the time and have sex every day" to divorce in such a short time is so weird.
So, a true Goth is born that way? None of them see a scene and think "I like THAT,I like the aesthetic, I like the music, those people seem cool, I want to join it"?
Yay pink eyebrows, much better than black ones
And tbh pastel aesthetic suits her better than dark, her face is too round to paint it white
IBF is neither vegan nor animal activist. She also uses makeup products from major animal tester brands like L'Oréal.
Also ReeRee who claims to be against animal testing could have been seen with color contact lenses on numerous occasions. AFAIK all color lenses are animal tested. And most of "normal" lenses too. Only 1 UK brand of one day opaque lenses is not animal tested AFAIK.
I'm from Ireland and yes it's considered to be rude, especially when the person isn't even looking at you, but looking at themselves in the camera while pointing.
I'd love to snap his sausage finger off!
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Are you stupid? That sounds nothing like body dysmorphia. She's said many times in her videos how good she thinks she looks. She just needs all of the attention. She's so cocky on cam and loves waving her arms around so her bewbs jiggle, and she just posted a picture on her insta where she's outside, wearing a jacket unzipped all the way showing that she's topless. She's a showoff, plain and simple.
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No one was ever going to lose your behemoth ass Kaya.
Same. It's getting old seeing her only do makeup and clothing hauls. Her trip vlogging is mildly entertaining as the viewer can look around and see all the things surrounding her but since she's "so creative", why not show some creative things that aren't tied to makeup or modeling clothing. Share a short story you may have written or do a short fun film project. Something to get the creative juices flowing. >>596783
That really is pathetic indeed. I mean I understand that being a parent, it sucks to be judged solely on how you look and not on your parenting skills but for all she knows, some of the other mums would be accepting if she gave them a chance. But the fact that she feels she has to be the most OTT alternative looking person in a place is just… Wow. who thinks like that? >>596901
Yeah I noticed something looked off in her outfit. She should've coordinated some creams in there to help mesh with the pink. Then again she says she doesn't have that many bright colors and if that's the case, just buy or ahem… Beg for some more lol>>596958
Other than the mental health stuff, I think the thing that makes her a Alternative cow is in the same way for Kaya with her misappropriating Goth to looking spoopy and wearing black.>>597003
At this point, the thing with IBF is she's freaking boring. When you've been watching her for years and have gotten used to how she looks, you start to see that she really doesn't have anything else going for her. >>597061
Eh good riddance, just another nail in the coffin where she'll become irrelevant just like Raven before her. She is rude, she gets defensive and butt-hurt when people comment or even compliment her… I mean for real lol >>597140
Lol Accurate. Jake is such a funny case because he thinks he's this big ole' Goffick rockstar when he's just a complete joke and he's lucky Kaya has such low self-esteem because had she not, she would've seen him for the pig he is and dumped his sorry ass long ago.
"Professional Life Liver" according to his Twitter bio.
…his achievement is literally just being alive. And poorly ripping off some other guy's video production style.
Hey nice mocking of people with anxiety Anon.>>596871
Uk/Irish here - pointing is something I consider children to do, and maybe adults when they're abroad and being a dumb tourist. Jake is actually Welsh so he's technically abroad in NI
She got triggered
by people rightfully calling he out on her rude behaviour because she's not actually rude she's just a latina from Texas so it's totally justified. In her defense, she has the community tab of YouTube where people can go comment/interact with her I guess.
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why do Kaya and Jake need £500 to go on a graveyard date??
do they actually need the push of a ton of money to make them go on dates with each other
More scamming their fans, disgusting>>597424
I thought this too, Raven must be rubbing her fat hands and sausage fingers together happy that Emily is being bashed on now.
I think that the reason Kaya stays with him is because she doesn't want to be alone. It doesn't look like she has many friends in Belfast nor is she close to her family and Jake is all she has.
Without Jake, she would be alone and depression may consume her (more?) because she has no one to talk to. Jake I'm sure wouldn't be bothered if Kaya broke up with him because seeing how he is, he'll think he can easily find someone new because he's a spoopy goff celebrity lol >>597521
It's sad that I could see this being a possibility. I mean does it really cost that much to have a picnic in a graveyard?
I think kaya (at least back when she was thinner, alienqueenofdarkness, angela and thegothicalice are all very pretty, they have mature, but soft symmetrical features. Adora is also good looking, especially for her age even tho i feel there is something off about her face? I think its her forehead being quite large yet she still can pull it off>>594555>Amy Nekrotique, for another person pushing 40
Wow I assumed she was mid/late-20s at most, maybe its her webcam quality but she looks good>>594625
I just wanna know what her hair looks like at the end of the day kek ive never seen spikes that large outside of photoshoots
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"muscular build" eh Jake? lmao
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Found this comment under the "What an absolute mess" video and kek'd. Jake's body is like a "self sustaining machine"!? What? Have these people ever seen a real bodybuilder? He is still a fatty with some muscles. he hasn't achieved as much as he likes to make people believe in his fitness journey.
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what they consumed in the space of an hour.
Jake's vlogs just prove how much junk food they eat on a daily basis
I saw that too and was shocked, he's such a rude cunt to everyone. If I were Kaya I would've rammed the trolley into the back of his chubby legs >>598392
They both eat shit yet one complains they can't lose weight no matter what they do (kek) whilst the other is oblivious and thinks they're muscular (topkek)
How many calories you think they consumed in that hour?
An average human should eat 2,500 or less calories a day. That's got to be most of their calories in that time frame. For fuck sake have some restraint. Super food addiction. No wonder they can't loose weight. They eat like little kids.
Here's some advice k and j. Eating sugar just makes you more hungry. You shouldn't eat sugar earlier in the day also. Just makes you hungry all day. Eat a full meal, don't graze.
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Seriously though what is that weird bulge on his back? Fat or is he wearing a bra?
It's weird to me that they take a taxi wherever they go, at least if they don't go by that stupid electric skateboard and scooter. I don't know about Belfast but when I've been to the UK taxis weren't that cheap. So I guess they make a ton of money from YouTube and Twitch cause I don't know anyone who would prefer the luxury of taxis that often… even if you find public traffic annoying (I so too), you'd still choose that option since it's much cheaper in most cases. Sorry this has probably been discussed several times. If they weren't such e-beggers I wouldn't even care.
Also kek at their love for IKEA, the most basic ass store in the world. It fits in with their whole wannabe alternative image.
Jake was saying he can get across Belfast from one side to the other in 10 minutes on his board yet he takes taxis everywhere? If it's so small why don't they use their stupid app and walk about, work up a sweat before buying a load of sweeties. And the taxis around Belfast are not cheap, they could get the bus but they're most likely scared of being heckled lol.
Or one of them could learn to drive and stop scrounging lifts off of people and using them for their ability to drive.
He's just talking out of his arse as usual. Any excuse to bash Belfast.
>they could get the bus but they're most likely scared of being heckled lol.
That and they probably don't want to be around people, they seem to think they're above everyone
I could shit a pound. I mean fair enough eat a bloody pizza after you've worked out if you want and you're doing a dirty bulk, but don't expect to get ripped as fuck by lifting weights a few times a week and eating junk food. I'd take him far more seriously if he was just like 'yeah, i'm doing a dirty junk food bulk and don't give a fuck' instead of pretending to be some sort of buff fitness guru. My fella is doing a junk bulk at the minute but he's also lifting competition weights at the moment and he is proud of his gut he has going on at the moment because it's enabling him to lift more and build more muscle. But that fat can easily be stripped back in a few weeks.
There's a massive difference between Jake and what professional lifters do, not to say Jake is saying he is one, but don't act like you're fitness goals personified when you're just average gym goer levels of chub/muscle.
I'm from ROI and 10 mins in a taxi here is about €15 so it's probably around the same in pounds.
I walk 25 minutes to and from work to save on spending on taxis but I guess Kaya and Jake have money to throw away instead of walking
Oh my gosh is this comment serious? Maybe it's because I follow a lot fitness men and women on Instagram and Youtube but man do I wish this post was satire because Jake doesn't look as fit as he claims at all. The only "muscly" thing on him is his arms but he looks completely doughy on the rest. I know we all have to start somewhere but come on, come back down to reality please. >>598384
I know right? There are plenty more deserving people who they could support. Kaya and Jake don't do anything exciting or worth the patronage at all. I'm guessing this fan is probably young and overtime, she'll see just how much of a waste it is to support their "content" >>598392
Well that explains how Jake lost his muscle mass and became more doughy looking.>>598395
Yep it's like two ends of delusion on the weight gain thing. Because Kaya was blaming her weight gain on medication but yet seeing pics like that as well as her food posts, it's pretty clear what really happened but she can't admit it or doesn't want to admit it. And Jake… He's pretty much Steven Seagal lol>>598406
The sad thing is that if they continue this and don't learn to cut down, by the time they reach their 30s, it's going to be even harder to lose the weight. >>598497
Haha he is far past the bulking stage, he's pretty much in "storaging" (yeah I know, not a real word) mode lol And yeah, I wouldn't say this if he didn't act like he was Mr. Muscles which he clearly isn't, at least not anymore. >>598623
Considering how much they e-beg and the money they get from Twitch, that could be the reason.>>598643
I'll begrudgingly agree with you lol IBF is not much better but at least she tries to make her videos interesting. I know people think her moving around and doing weird things while she's showing off clothes is cringe but I think it does good showing the clothes in motion. I mean FFS, Kaya doesn't even wear the clothes she gets all that much anymore.
I wonder if its to do with the fact she did have (or maybe still) has an aversion to pastel goth and yet…kinda dresses like that now? (I know how she dresses isnt pastel goth but some would make that mistake)
I remember her huge rants about how pastel goth isnt goth. Personally if she prefers to dress like this now she should just go with it-especially if it will make her happier in the long run.
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a woman stopped Kaya to compliment her.
IN THAT WIG?? is she for real
she looks insane
"the reason my cheeks are so puffy is because of dehydration!"
like we literally see all the junk you eat in your vlogs! stop blaming everything else!
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his face says it all really
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I can't watch any of her videos without staring at her chin/jaw area. It's so flabby and like a turkeys neck. You'd think she would be much fatter just from her face, but her body is decent in my opinion.
But that turkey flab… just.
Her body isn't decent (Look at Jakes' vlogs where she's walking around with him but is dressed extremely casually, she looks fucking awful) that dress is just styled well to flatter her bodytype. As a former fatty, it's a good silhouette and helps cinch the waist, especially with how she's holding the sides of the dress out. >>599076
This comment was me sorry I actually didn't mean to post it (laptop is being utterly retarded on imageboards lately sorry) I was gonna shorten it to "The app's kinda worth it just on your normal daily walking so I don't get why she doesn't use it for what little walking she DOES do and earn some cash overtime. It's effortless AF)
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I followed her on Tumblr some years back and had to unsubcribe from her youtube. She's very snotty and pretentious and holier-than-thou. I get that, compared to a 'normie', she's got alright movie/book taste, and she's not terrible at art. But her attitude, how she comes across when she talks about movies and music and books, is like she is deigning to speak to a peasant, not simply sharing something cool she knows about. There is no enthusiasm. She just -expects- that you 'wouldn't know this movie'. It's "Condescending, The Person".
"keeping off the weight"??? What world is he living in? He's fat and instead of losing the fat he's just bulked up on top of it. Even if he did burn off 1000 calories from his workouts, the food here >>598392
is definitely a lot more than that, and if he's eating shit like pizza he'll hardly be dropping any weight. I don't understand how the pair of them can't grasp the simple concept of calories>>599080
I was just going to say this. The style of the dress (halter neck skater dress?) flatters almost everyone and is slimming. She doesn't have a decent body at all no offence.
I don't see any milk material in her. Just an introvert with social media showing effects of more or less creative activity.>>599304>She is Drac with family money
Citation needed. How do you know if she lives by family money? Alice has a job AFAIK and pays own bills. At least that's what she said in videos.
??? Nothing about what you're replying to was about hair? >>599404
There seems to be a majority who think Alice is an obnoxious self congratulating holier than thou arsehole but her handful of fans are rather amusing to watch defend her as they all act and sound like her, defending what is being criticised by being exactly what is being criticised.
>>599714>Your comment feels like baiting, but I'll bite: "absurd nitpicking" because people don't like being looked down upon?
Rather seeing looking upon where there is none looking upon.
> An inferiority complex for what, her superior intellect or her amazing fashion skills?
For her being able to overcome part of her introvert psyche.
IMHO to get triggered
by her behavior one have to be a really hard case of shut in NEET basement dweller.
I'm the anon who asked about various opinions on The Gothic Alice - thanks for sharing why some of you find her tiresome.
I guess in the absence of really gross behavior - like Kaya's continual begging or basically Raven's entire existence - it's just personal tastes and not an overarching moral or ethical reaction that guides us here. Like I can't stomach even looking at Adora's emaciated, overdecorated carcass, but that's not really a flaw with her, per se. Just my perspective.
Eh, I still think The Gothic Alice, keeping in mind any pompous or condescending behavior, is good example of reinvigorated old-school goth interests and she has relatively little drama around her as she creates her outfits and art. But even being relative here, she's still way low on the shitty, shady, dramatic, batshit crazy meter.
But still, thanks for sharing opinons with me.
She looks good.>>599787
Agreed, especially with this shitty little bangs she's had with that hair lately. I don't know what possessed her to do that.
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OMG I love those bangs. Eh, I like IBF and cannot lie.
The straight hair Morticia look is good though.
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From thegothicalice's tumblr
Kek that's so fucking good!!
Kaya herself said they signed on up to a little while ago.
They somehow make enough money from twitch and YouTube but they are for sure getting help by the government to pay most of their rent every month
didn't miss anything. all the high angles were funny but the bag is just the same as the red one, but apparently there's a new collaboration in the works, whoopee.>>599759
hair and brows is such an improvement, but her skin looked terrible before she put on the makeup.
When cows collide….
What the fuck is Lvci doing hanging out with Coalcandy and Adora? That’s so bizarre.
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he's self sustaining in that he won't need food for the next few months
i found the IBF skinwalker commenting on the Audible advert where she fed the 'nothing good ever came out of Cork' troll
did it hit a soft spot hon?
Well Pastel Goth isn't Goth but she probably only said that to keep her non-existent goth cred. But I agree, if she enjoys it, no harm in wearing it.>>598910
I believe we call this denial kek >>599210
I'm personally indifferent to her and I don't love nor hate her but I think it's just how she comes off with a somewhat "I'm better than you" attitude. She comes off like the stereotypical hipster artist who's a know-it-all and comes off pretentious in the process. Though to be fair, she may not be doing that intentionally but you never really know. The only controversy I remember was that she took part in saying no one should from some lady's Gothic clothing store when she called out IBF and Kaya. I can't remember exactly what but it was a long while back in 2017. >>599304
I think GothicAlice has some rather cool art designs and I'd rather look at them over Drac's to be honest lol And for real, she's still trying to push those hideous bags? >>599383
Yep pretty much this lol>>599544
I mean damn, I'm autistic too but even I try to make sure I come off reasonable. I know everyone is different and for all we know, Alice may not understand why the way she comes off can be off-putting so I can give her that. But it truly makes me annoyed when people come off like they don't care about whatever it is they are talking about even if unintentional. I mean why bother?
NGL, she killed it in my opinion. She looks quite nice with her hair down and even if she didn't copy the Angelica Huston look to a perfect "T", it was actually a pretty good attempt, I give her props and I'm not even a big fan of hers to begin with lol. She makes for a good Morticia Addams. >>600028
Does Kaya really make that much to live on? Her views barely scratch 20,000 compared to the likes of IBF. >>600033
Well gee, maybe if they actually read what the people were saying, they'd see that not all of it is "Lol wacky haters". >>600539
Oh lordy lol She actually does have a pretty near shoe collection but that voice… Just use your real voice dear.
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What's really sad is that she's actually exactly the kind of goth girl I'd love to hang out with: she actually brings something to the table. She's a creator. That puts her levels above IBF, TT, all the others we complain about here.
If she'd understand how these posers negatively affect the goth community, she'd probably not be so blase.
I say that as someone who is seeing baby bats come to the goth clubs and events unnecessarily nervous, OTT, and uneducated because their only glimpses of goth come from these big youtubers making goth seem like a runway, which is just no fun at all. They don't dance when they get there, they're primping the whole time, they don't know any of the music and they don't have any fun outside of taking selfies. I've struck up conversations with them and put out feelers about YT once it became obvious they weren't real goths. They all loved these fake goth youtubers.
So yes, Alice, these 'goth is my job' types do have a real world impact on the scene you and I love.
'emoXkadjhaXxpink' Kinda glad to see what was made in 2009 and not this recently>>600638
Are you the one who wrote >>598852
if so can you please sage? It goes in the email field, you just write sage, not being mean it's just your writing style is pretty noticeable (if they're not you then I do apologise and ignore this as you're just similar sounding people) but it's all opinion and not adding anything new to the thread so it'd be really helpful if it was saged. Again, not nitpicking just saying incase you're newish around here it'll save someone finally snapping at you.
Oh man I totally forgot about that video. Yeah I pretty much agree with >>600705
that unlike Toxic Tears, Jake, and IBF, she actually contributes to the scene with her creativity and it's so obvious she loves the music and it helps fuel her creative side.
I mean fine, I can see how she may not think IBF is all that bad for the scene but Toxic Tears & Jake are like the worst (never-mind they aren't Goth, just stating facts), it's just completely sad. I too have ran into the confused baby bats & mallgoths though granted, on the internet primarily as I have a YouTube channel where I talk about Goth and I get some comments that really shouldn't be a thing. >>600716
I think you're right on the money with this as well, especially when you take into account how Toxic Tears and Jake always whine about "elitists" (who aren't actually elitists). The young people watching them will get this preconceived notion that real goths are going to be judgy and standoffish but that couldn't be further from the truth and that's why when newcomers or young ones come to me with questions and advice, I make sure to be patient, understanding, and friendly. I want them to know that we all start out somewhere and it's not a race.
>>I feel like youtubers are so desperate to appeal to the masses for their various different reasons that they throw the whole scene and community/culture/history under the bus in order to do that.
This especially. This is why Snowy's video pissed me off because she totally mirrored this gross mentality you highlighted. >>600709
Oh my bad, sorry. Yeah that was me and I'll remember to use "Sage" from now on, thank you.
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Jake goes on a couples dinner date with some friends and doesn't sit beside Kaya….??
also see at 2:38 on his vlog when his "friend" sees him and rolls his eyes
Afaik they’re a couple since 2015
She will get a lot of controversy with her raising the child vegan I’m really curious to see how that works
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You gotta hand it to Kat, finding somebody who looks more tryhard than she does seemed impossible, but she somehow managed to do it
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Their whole wedding looks so tacky and try-hard. Also, she looks so much further along than she says she is which is 4 almost 5 months
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why is this making me laugh so much?
Because it's bloody awful. Holy shit that's bad. Kat, please go back to that grubby biker look you had in the early aughts-it suited you much better.
And the other anon is right, she looks much, much further along.
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Another cringe inducing pic. A wedding is supposed to be a social event but they were up on their thrones looking down on everybody and who gets married in sunglasses while indoors?
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Mr.Owl is on his way to see IBF in Germany and that’s great ‘n all but it seems like a super awkward situation if they’re gonna stay in the IBF’s apartment right next to Matthias.
She met him around that time but they only started dating recently. She said that he was going to be a muse for her 10 year stuff even before they started dating (I assume it’s a project that took at least a year with the different items and videos made), and she was linked to Cody Carlson last year.
Also note they got married in Feb, the wedding was just what happened now. It does sound like a shotgun wedding since she legally married him a bit before showing off that she is pregnant and did it quietly.
No worries about the sage, you're good now! Your insight is valuable.
I was >>600716
and I feel like a lot of these youtubers (not IBF, she's in to the music and her style does still reflect a lot of trad aspects so I give her a bit of a pass as she isn't forcing negative stereotypes like Kaya) don't believe in 'real goth'. Like when the whole 'Pastel Goth' thing came around I had people asking me "Well what's the problem?! people are allowed to wear what they like when they like" Yes, they are, but you don't call a spade a sock do you? Hypothetically I'm not going to wear sweet lolita and listen exclusively to candy pop music and still call myself a goth because my interests do not clearly lie in goth anything anymore. Outfits are superficial in a way yes but wearing pastels and ~spOoOoOoky~ jewellery while listening to babymetal does not a goth make. Kaya, are you listening to why 'real goth' isn't a big meanie slur against you? So it baffled me when people defended it as a legit 'substyle'. This is the attitude we have here on social media where we're considered elitists if we'd prefer you at least read a fucking book before proclaiming you're the gothest goth that ever gothed and we're bitches who only want to be cliquey and judgy and not let you do what you want, You don't have to like trad or deathrock to be goth and you don't have to like the music etc etc all of that they preach which is just not true. No matter how much it hurts their feelings, there are things that are goth and there are things that aren't. That doesn't make us elitists, it means we have reading comprehension and respect for a concept. You don't have to be a carbon copy of Siouxsie fucking Sioux like they always try to make out; that's exactly what you shouldn't do. But when you spend your career forcing yourself to be someone you're not to virtue signal in a way that makes you holier than thou about how talking to any goth that isn't your 'belfry bat goth mom' is gonna result in a fucking identity crisis, I can see why they think you have to be something precise, you have to dress a certain way, act a certain way, do certain things. Because that's what their influencers have told them. We're all evil and will mould them to fit our fucking cult outline apparently. Which is a strawman they've made and is somehow worse than IBF's sea of clones? Oh well, All hail Rozz Williams my fellow evil meanie pants big goffs, lets go sacrifice a babybat in his name.
That eye roll looked like “oh great, he’s pointing that camera at me and his fat finger too”
Does Jake think that we don’t have eyeballs in our skulls? We can see how chubby he is. Just cause he says it enough times, it isn’t going to be true that he’s this super muscular fit guy.
I noticed that as well-the moment Rafael doesn't kiss her ass or slightly disagrees with her the marriage will be over.
That fucking wedding is the epitome of nouveau riche
100% agree with you. Once he does or says something that she doesn’t approve of, he’ll be out on his ass.
I wish there was more milk about her past relationships. How does one have about 5 boyfriends in a spec of a year and not have something wrong with them.
Haha thanks and yep, agree with everything you said here. IBF may be boring with her content but at least from her look, you can tell she clearly took some inspiration from 80s trad and she always plays Goth music in the background (no metal or rock) and I appreciate that as that's actually how I discovered the band Merciful Nuns whom I really enjoy.
But this is exactly why I'm not afraid to say what is what and call out Kaya and Jake's bullshit. I remember last year during a Cemetery Confessions podcast, they talked about the goths of Youtube and when they got to Kaya, they pretty much said what we've all been saying and it was so flipping hilarious to see that she really isn't fooling real Goths. Maybe "normies" but not actual Goths who know what the subculture truly is about and it was just oh so satisfying.
And I'm sorry but if steering Baby Bats to actual Goth music and helping them discover some Goth bands they may end up liking and adding them to their growing Goth library makes people like us Elitists, so be it.
Because let's be real. If Kaya stopped raking in the views with her videos, she would definitely drop the pseudo Goth thing and move onto the next trendy thing.
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Has anyone heard of casperblaise on Instagram? She looks like a clown/drag queen/hobo and she seems to favor attaching random things to her head and body. She hurts to look at.
honey, you are screaming
>LOOK AT ME I'M A TOTAL NEWFAG
with such posts
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seriously she's a metal head. some things never change. either that or she's missing another nail and can't be arsed fixing it again. no frills freya. she's not goth…. 4 years of youtube doesn't cut it.
Oh no, being Asexual isn't a bad thing at all, she just uses her sex appeal to snag guys and will put out, she's not sex repulsed, she just as you say uses it as a tool to get her way then will go cold on them. It's not fair and it's a poor representation of actually asexual people but she did once say on her blog (lost to the posts of time probably) that she would be asexual if she didn't feel that intimacy so important in a relationship, so she did have a physical relationship with him of some kind in order to have a 'stronger bond' by her standards. I just hope Mr Owl is happy and isn't gonna get Matthias'd into a shit situation. I'm friends with a couple, she is asexual, he isn't, and they've been married years and while he respects and adores her and they've never been physically affectionate, it has been a strain at times because he finds her physically attractive and she's sex repulsed. So I guess the point I'm trying to make is it's not always about whether or not someone respects the others sexuality, they can, but it does make it very much all about them in that they get what they want and the other doesn't and even when you love the bones of someone that can be hard just because you show affection in different ways. That couple worked it out though, so I'm not saying they won't, just there needs to be some kind of give and take and we all know Freyja is all about take and take. But I wasn't the anon to originally mention it so I have no fucking idea I'm just talking out my ass.
With Matthias she fucked him to start with and they were affectionate then when she got what she wanted she used the whole "Well I stopped wanting you because I don't like your personality" like with her ex prior to Barnaby. So it's not Mr Owl who would be using it as a weapon, you kinda have it backwards.>>601655
Just because you don't like her and she pulled a stupid pose for fun (something that is clearly not allowed with you) doesn't mean she's not a goth. She's in to the music, she takes part in the culture, she's influenced by the style. Slag her for shit she actually is not just because you don't want to share your chosen subculture with someone you dislike.
I completely agree with you, Freya is definitely goth, actually she is one of the few bigger e-famous alternative people who actually seem to have a pretty large understanding and appriciation for goth music and the subculture in general… nobody is saying that just because you're goth, you're not allowed to like anything metal or any other music genre for that sake.
Just because you're taking part of a subculture it doesn't mean you can't enjoy other things outside of it either.
There is plenty of shit to dislike Freya for, but not being goth while claiming to be is not one of them.
If anyone here wants somebody claiming to be goth but knows absolutely 0 about it, they can always focus on Kaya.
Speaking of Kaya, I was bored and watched her Spin Doctor haul. My god this woman cannot describe things for shit. It's not even just the descriptions themselves but the way she talks, it's like her speech is slurred and she can't enunciate to save her damn life. And what is the point of being so close to the camera holding up the clothes when you can't see them properly. How hard would it be to just stand back and hold them up at least?
sage for rant
holy shit I feel so bad for Matthias. how could she do this? >>601424
personally from what I've watched Mr Owl sexualizes her more in videos and seems generally more aggressive. you can see it in videos with him from before Germany. honestly I feel so bad for Matthias. he's genuinely very good looking (even without makeup), talented, great taste in pretty much everything, seems nice/sweet…. I feel secondhand discomfort just knowing the situation
Haha so true though with Jake, he sealed his fate as an insufferable twat.>>601690
I have to agree. At the most IBF doesn't try to distort what Goth is unlike Kaya and I feel that someone like Kaya is more damaging to Goth than Freya is.
Oh and on that note, you forgot Emily Boo as she's another person who is most definitely not a Goth, just darkly-inclined. >>601801
Eh that's really all it came down with TGA. Her main drawback is her attitude and personality. The snarky "Enlightened", "I'm better than you" tone she gives which just makes you think of those snobby art students from places like Seattle lol >>601852
It's been awhile but I recall in one of her previous Q&A videos, she described herself as Asexual.
TGA is something of a contradiction. On the one hand, she constantly mentions how super introverted she is, how much she DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE, and how often she has a "Don't talk to me" expression in public (like an edgy teenager that HATES EVERYONE) And yet she constantly and regularly posts her shit online. I don't understand, why would one even post online if they DIDN'T want attention (positive and negative, they go hand in hand)? I agree with the person that said she's actually really lonely. She probably just wants compliments and a place to show off just how icy and (supposedly) unapproachable she is.
I agree that I'd love to have a serious conversation with her too. I don't like her art at all (not into fantasy) but she's still a creator.
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And people wonder why "haters" think that The Gothic Alice is pretentious
I feel like she fantasizes about a person, until she feels she needs to be with them. but then it doesn't live up to the fantasy. worship and then devaluation. the whole "surprising Mr Owl" video was so creepy to me. she is looking at what everyone else is saying and then obviously fantasizing about the possibilities. she rushed into it with (poor) Matthias and it didn't turn out like she hoped. and so she escaped by thinking about the happiness she could have with Owl.
obviously there's no hard evidence but imho it can be assumed. plus if you're not truly attracted to someone, it can cause sexual intercourse to be quite painful. sage for tinfoil
Looool come on now man, you can't be serious with this shit! If you're not goth by listening to goth music, going to concert with bands from the genres or wearing goth style clothing, then when the fuck are you goth?? Never??
Tons of young people start out wearing alternative clothing to be a bit rebellious and stand out, then later they begin falling into the subculture of alternative lifestyle they enjoy the most, including the music.. I don't really think theres anything wrong with that.
It's been the same person the whole thread throwing their toys out the pram because they don't like Freyja so therefore by some backswamp logic Freyja isn't goth anymore and because ZOMG SHE PULLED A SILLY POSE>>601655
It sure is summer in here. They could at least try and not sound like the same person kek
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it was supposed to be sarcasm. and yes, corpse white is the same thing as what he uses… its hilarious. he's stupid enough to want to be with her - no sympathy.
literally has mounds around her piercings b/c of the amount of makeup she wears. wtf does she even do besides post pix and try to get ppl to buy shit she's already worn?>>601697
can't remember if it was that video or another recent one where kaya makes a comment about her shitty camera, again. like, sell some of the stuff you don't wear and fix it or get a new one already ffs.>>602046
ibf has no room to talk about anyone's makeup when she paints her fucking neck and face, and is capable of doing good brows like on the morticia transformation video but chooses to make them look like they're drawn on in sharpie.
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lol yeah i'm a newfag. you're dreaming. i don't do meds. I'll leave that to IBF and the awesomeness that people think she is. awesome!! hahaha…. wait, i'll just get my facts straight next time i spout things that are completely untrue… if you paint your face like a clown, i'm sorry, people are just laughing so hard. it's not about being PC on this board, so just accept that it's true. go for it.(infighting)
She started taking meds for anxiety and PTSD after breaking up with Matthias.
Thinking that she needs to vomit and take charcoal is OTT.
She's talked about having anxiety and taking meds for years. I don't think it's new.>> 602286
Didn't she say he was dating again already? Maybe he's had special friends staying in the other flat for ages for all we know.
I'm assuming she means she's on benzos. Max kpin dosage is 20mg (usually doctors prescribe 1mg to 2mg a day), xanax is usually stopped at 4mg (but 8mg isn't going to kill you), valium is extremely difficult to OD on, and ativan I'm not sure but I took 2mg/6hrs for 5 days for DTs. If she took too much xanax, she'd be too incoherent to make herself vomit.
I'm assuming she's on xanax or ativan as an "as needed" med. If she's on a daily dose of kpin or valium, she shouldn't be touching alcohol. That's just asking to wake up in jail with no recollection of the last 8 hours.
First, everyone who didn't like Alice was a basement dwelling triggered
NEET. Now, those people are also intellectually challenged. Everyone who doesn't like Alice's attitude MUST be stupid, right? You're taking this real personal, friend (nice "snarky" comment, BTW, she'd be proud of you)
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Aw nah but she's totally an oldfag, a true expert on who is and isn't goth guize. You listen to the music, read gothic literature and have a trad goth influence in your style? Well actually bitch you had a pink nail in 3rd grade, you're SUCH a fake and a poseur doing this for attention. She doesn't need to sage because everything she says is a god given gift to us that we must nevarrr question.
no one is bashing him. In the last thread her mother posted that she had PTSD from the end of the relationship. You're right that she has had anxiety issues but she and her mother were very open about how 'damaged' she was from the relationship and divorce. >>602322
One day I hope you realise that literally no one, no other human being, cares what your IQ is or what you think it is as I doubt you've got any kind of grasp of your own intellect. How intelligent you think you are or the useless accomplishments such as writing long winded flowery responses such as this I am writing for illustrative purposes will mean absolutely nothing as you continue your life; as a vague concept of a person that is so ephemeral in the memory of your 'friends' that in 5 years time no one will remember your name because you shut yourself away to be dark and brooding and oh so terribly romantic in your homemade ramshackle 'library' puffing yourself up on anonymous image boards and tumblr and furiously trying to be the greatest linguist on a pointless anonymous image board. To be ephemeral, forgotten, known only for being so far up your own arse you can wave out your mouth. Does that sound like a life you want? Then stop trying to be like Alice. No one wants that dull existence, no one over the age of 19 is interested in her fantasy land of a life. Also just a heads up, if one must call others 'Intellectually challenged' (then precede and follow that with incorrect grammar and spelling mistakes, absolutely scarlet for you frankly darling, one in your position should really run it past a proofreader) , one can usually be found to be not quite the sharpest crayon in the box; and it's mostly compensating. In short: Do better bitch, do better, for your own sake. Alice couldn't care less about your whiteknighting and will never notice you if that's what you want. I've seen so much pointless WK nonsense it deserved a little reply in the stolen words and wistful descriptive language so heavily influenced by Poe that your type is ever so fond of.
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This article is likely more to do with the Mail's penchant for stirring up drama, but peep the pics.
Did they really have jumbotron size projections of themselves on the wall at their reception?Kat Von D hit back at critics of her elaborate Heaven and Hell inspired wedding to partner Leafar Seyer this weekend.The tattoo artist, 36, made a point of responding to comments about an upside-down crucifix covered in white carnations decorating the wedding.The expecting mom gave a commenter who called the post 'demonic' a piece of her mind, writing back: 'Your judging ways are not Christ-like at all.'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5809113/Kat-Von-D-gives-critics-called-Heaven-Hell-themed-wedding-demonic-piece-mind.html
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Yes they had a video of themselves waving and kissing at their guests. They also had a video insert in the cake doing awkward dances and waves. Cringe all around.
edgiest shotgun wedding ever
funny how shes tried so hard to cover up that fact too with the rushed ceremony a few months ago, lying about how far along she is, etc
Hasn’t she been married like 4 times before this dude?
Who wears sunglasses inside to their wedding. Fucking weird.
OHHHH DUDE, sick burn! TURN DOWN FOR WHAT!
…..Now stop derailing the thread with your personal arguments that no one cares about.
Please anon, sage your bullshit
So how long are you guys guessing Kat von D and sunglasses douche is gonna stay married? I mean she DID once manage to stay married for a total of 4 years, but that is also her personal relationship record… Lets hope the baby sparks a bit of effort in both of them to not immediatly call it quits the moment the newly-in-love spark fades.
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Apparently, Leafar/Rafael already has a daughter and he doesn’t speak to her anymore. I hope he doesn’t mess this kid up.
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Here’s an excerpt from an article with him talking about her.
Father of the year here; Kat really knows how to pick ‘em.
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I’ve been trying to avoid this physical manifestation of kats bloated ego but that’s basically impossible
Did she go out of her way to get things that are usually not vegan just so she could talk about how vegan she is? She didn’t have to have leather or fur or candles but there they are. All for that vegan hashtag.
disclaimer: I don't like kat von d at all but: 1- I actually like her cats name.
and 2- I found it very cool that she has had all this effort to have an all vegan effort, it's just commitment to her lifestyle and it doesn't hurt the animals, support vegan companies, etc, it's a nice thing to do and at least she's not being a hypocrite who forgets all of her values for a luxury wedding. I saw somewhere that she said that she wanted to show that's possible to have a big and luxurious wedding while using all vegan alternatives
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He doesn’t give specific information about the cause of their estrangement but from this article I assume that his friend had an intimate relationship with Rafael’s daughter and then the friend wanted to kill him because of it. That sounds really crazy.
She hasn’t been honest about many things concerning her marriage and pregnancy. She used to be staunchly childfree and now that she’s pregnant, it’s the best thing that ever happened?
Why did they elope and then have a big wedding? Why not wait?
I’m definitely not optimistic about this marriage because of her track record. Baby or not. She falls head over heels way too fast, builds it up as the most perfect relationship ever on social media, and before we know it; it’s over!
Exactly, when she was dating Steve-O she acted like it was beautiful amazing true love and she had never loved anyone more in her entire life, it was just soooo perfect; they lasted what 3 months? Absolutely laughable.. she falls so hard in love with people and then the moment she isnt feeling that first-in-love spark anymore she just bails. She only lasted 4 years with Oliver Peck because it was one of the few people she actually knew well and had a real connection to beforehand… also back then all Kat cared about was drugs in various forms. Kat ONLY cares about herself.
She is a narcissist, and I kinda get the feeling that Rafael is also pretty narc (I don't know him well though so I'm just assuming), and we all know how a relationship between 2 narcs is gonna go down… there isn't gonna be enough space for both of their egos.
Green newfag triggered
again. What a surprise. LOL.>>603273
>The production and disposal of synthetic leather and faux fur are not without their negative effects on the environment.
Not to mention that not killing an animal for purpose of using it is not inherently meaning you are saving more lives then actually killing it. For example The most ethic source of prteins in total sum of deaths is eating insects:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/entomophagy-eat-insects-food-diet-save-planet-meat-cattle-deforestation-a8259991.html
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She's never been known for picking the best men, she seems to levitate towards tawdry "bad boys". Anyone remember Jesse James? and fucking has been Nikki Sixx?
Unfortunately she's now dragging a child into her shitty partner making decisions.
I'm also trying to wrap my head around when the fuck she transitioned into goffic guru queen when she used to look like this. Was it when she noticed how marketable the whole goth "look" is?
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"Look at me! I'm a "famous" YouTuber! Look at me! Give me attention! Look at me! Fangirling attention whore!Let me piggyback on somebody else's name if it gets me moar views!"
All bow down to the goffic mermaid queen in her horrible pink wig! Bewbies!
There's a few of his songs I like
It's not that bad in small doses
Oh raven, sweetie, honey….no, just no.
>Fangirling attention whore!
….what the fuck…..
I would honestly like to know how you take issue with EB? I've watched her once or twice before and could see why she wouldn't be to everyone's taste, but she doesn't seem the lolcow type unlike raven/kaya/micklow/drac etc.
Also learn to sage please.
Raven = easy to see why she's lolcow material. She's done enough to fill countless threads across various websites.
Emily = occasionally talks about farting/belching/having hairy legs and calls herself a mermaid but otherwise hasn't done anything particularly extra or ridiculous.
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Don't forget Oliver peck, her first husband
Ras' Facebook-page says "Single".
Do you have any idea what happened between Adora and her sister/daughter Jenny? Adora mentioned that Jenny moved away and they have no longer contact.
She gets tattoos for almost every partner and then lasers it off when they break up. The worst one I can remember is when she had Jesse James’s portrait as a kid done on her.
Right now, she has her husband’s lips tattooed on her neck.
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I found the aforementioned tattoo. It was uglier than I remembered, I’m glad Kat got it lasered off.
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>>602097>Matthias could get literally anyone, he's gorgeous
He looks like a goth Mr. potato head tbh.
He knows that many think he s handsome and he uses that for his favor. I think you hear that when he speaks. Likes to show himself like a snobby goth royal.
I saw him at WGT and he seemed relaxed but not very interested in other people then his clique. Think he s a typical elitist trad
Ibf dates guys like him alot it surprised me so many people defending her ex
She is so strange , like she has very low self-esteem but at the same time is very vain
She said in one Video that she finds it hard to recognize her face as her own without her signature makeup.
Often get the feeling that all this dressing up and makeup are like a protecting cover for her actual Self. It's more like a mental fixation help for her insecurity, like she seems so unsure about all the other things beside being Goth ( the relationship to her mother and her boyfriends, her staying in Germany or elsewhere, no secure job or income ). Sad that the spotlight lies on such a person and not on the musicians, artists and all the people who actually work to keep the goth community alive and entertained.
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>she's not fucking vaccinating
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She sounds like she's lost her damn mind
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I wish I could respond to this comment without getting massive backlash from their fans on my personal ig. I can’t believe their stans are supporting this anti-vax decision. How many stupid people are out there in the world?
I’d comment to-Hope you’re also proud you’re getting another child to fuck up with your life choices. How’s your daughter btw?
is she really trying to claim that being a vegan causes people to discriminate and oppress her???
like sorry if you obviously want to have an unhealthy child, clearly going to an actual doctor for prenatal and birth care instead of going to an overpaid hippie is some kind of discrimination. Never mind the gays, it's the vegans who are truly oppressed!
fucking hell get a get grip bitch.
People who say shit like "not vaccinating my kids is my personal choice and won't affect anyone" really piss me off. Not vaccinating your children is an issue that doesn't just involve you anymore. For some people the vaccine does not stick and that's where herd immunity comes into play so if the majority is vaccinated then there's a less chance of that person catching an illness.
She's not only putting her own child at risk but everyone else who comes into contact with her child. This is why you hear about those sudden measles outbreaks popping up.
Those same people go around spewing uninformed ideas, spreading misinformation and introducing others to pseudoscience. If you try to actually show them credible and factual data, they call you sheep.
Seeing that 85% of people in the comments are supporting Kat Von D’s decision is scary.
She’s not the first vegan to have a fuckin baby. She’s also not the first person to have an at home birth. She’s so fucking pretentious. She thinks she’s the only person like that.
I don’t understand this forcing your child to be vegan and not letting it be vaccinated. At least get the baby vaccines if you don’t want any.
She's looking at it from such a poor perspective. She and her husband are most likely vaccinated, yet they feel they're knowledgable enough and important enough to override medical progress and science to take away from their child something that saved them from suffering in their childhoods. I really hope she enjoys sacrificing her career to care for a child so fragile he can't be around other children for fear of catching something, with a diet so lacking that he has no immune system and grows up riddled with the lasting affects of things like Measles, Mumps, Polio, Meningitis. Lord knows she's not a dietary expert despite deciding she is, so she doesn't know what a child needs growing up vegan, what she survives on as a grown adult vegan isn't the same as what a child needs, so she's gonna raise another tortured, feeble artist who she can mould in to someone just as edgy as them. I know that's all speculation but the whole situation, especially knowing now how Rafael was with his Daughter, is rather worrying.
Freyja even posted a video where she said she took a benzo to calm down after her crocodile "I'm having PTSD" tears
I can't remember which video though but she was headed off to the Cradle of Filth gig iirc
>>604735>try being a pregannt vegan
Because spina bifida is totally on trend right now, Kat
Not to mention all of the other health repercussions that child will have to endure
That's without being vaccinated against easily preventable diseases
I hope the child doesn't come out looking like spaghetti by aged 12 if it lives that long
This stupid bitch infuriates me. It's not your body, it is your child's body and you are compromising their health and safety you dumb cunt
I fucking hate these complete morons
Good to know I only bought her shitty eyeliner a year ago. I refuse to support her dumbass anymore. She is really uneducated. To openly state you won't vaccinate your kid because MUH VEGANISM sounds like the most uneducated thing in the world. She is putting other people's kids/babies at risk.
Holy shit.. I mean, she never seemed smart to begin with. Also, the people defending her are just as bad, if not worse.
b-but, anon. it's vegan ink
Honestly though, she sounds like someone who got lucky by doing tats and that's all she is good at. I don't use her makeup line, so i can't judge its quality. However, she sounds like some dumb bitch who is using her vegan/cruelty free platform for all the wrong reasons.
A few of the 24hr liquid eye liners from Japanese brands are just as good, cost less and have been around a lot longer.
I believe one brand is called Kate 24hr.
I’m not buying her crap to support her. Money goes to her dumb ass family. Read on reddit that she is getting a “bloodline” logo designed. It’s a 3 headed dragon with crowns on its head. Something to do with her last name meaning dragons and his last name meaning king?
That child is so fucked
Homeschooling would make sense, so she can breastfeed him till he is older. Kids need the nutrients found in milk and if he isn't allowed formula/cows milk he needs mothers milk for at least a couple of years.
I saw that her midwife breastfed her own kids for 4 years or something, so maybe thats what Kat is going for.
I had to unfollow her and will stop buying her make-up due to her anti-vaxxing decision.
Homebirthing is actually not that uncommon in many parts of europe. Also birth without medication is really nothing special here. as long as you don't risk your or the babys health go for it.
I cannot believe that they want to name him Leafar. Why don't they call him Prayers? :D
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It's frustrating as hell. Usually i try to empathize with vegans, but they're usually so damn extreme, like holyshit. And i try not to judge people who raise kids their own way, but they might as well be in the same category as idiots who pray the sick away/dont believe in medical science.
Kat von d is anti relgious, so it's more fucking ironic. I can't tell if she's this insane or her husband is egging her on. They deserve each other, but doing this to an innocent child and other children who will be affected by their shitty decision is criminal tbh. >>604913
36 isn't a death age for having kids, but it is certainly gonna fuck him up for not vaccinating and raising him vegan. He's going to be malnourished af. She's literally raising a soy boy at this point. >>605009
i fucking love you, anon. You seriously made my morning. kek
Kat literally dated a white trash neo nazi type openly. I figured this dude wasn't exempt just because he was hispanic. Kat is gross herself and uses her 'i'm hispanic, i cant be racist' card a lot. It makes me mad when two shitty people get together and have a kid. This is why we still have hatred in the world because more shitty people are having kids than actual loving , sane parents. ugh >>603256
Yes. Literally all she does is mention how vegan she is. She mentioned on her epic honeymoon that all they did was be vegan and eat vegan food and look at the vegan sun.
Fuck yes. I have a relatively easy going 9 week old and it's still the hardest thing I've ever done. Motherhood is not a hippy dippy heavenly experience. Sure, there's the love and bonding, but there's the shit, piss, puke, tears, sleep deprivation, hormones gone crazy…
Add to that the fact she'll have no meds to help with the pain after birth, she's in for a shock.
I'm thinking if you tear badly enough to need painkillers.
Also, what if she and baby have different blood groups and they need anti-D injections? Will she refuse that? And I don't know about America, but in the UK babies have a dose of Vitamin K via a jab after they're born - would she refuse that too? I have so many questions.
I'm not surprised. Kat is narc, the moment somebody goes against the narc wishes and doesn't kiss their ass, they're out! Even their own family or long term friends.
Kat has done this her entire life and it's only gotten worse now… the marriage won't last more than a year, trust.
I got an EM cosmetics eyeliner and it was the EXACT same as kvds liner. The only difference was logo stamped on the identical tubes. So there goes the illusion of kvd in a lab coat surrounded by scientists coming up with the most unique and special formulas for her unique and special makeup brand. She just says she wants purble and draws a logo, then pulls down her pants and waits for the ass kissing to start flying in.>>605079
She gets all of her food delivered to her. She doesn’t have to think about anything she eats at all. Being vegan is so hard for the wealthy white passing woman from la. She’s so disconnected from reality if she was let loose in a grocery store she probably wouldn’t even know which type of lettuce is vegan.