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A thread for both older and newer cows from indie bands including indie punk rock, alternative rock, grunge and so on, who do stupid things but don't deserve their separate threads. That refers to singers and musicians with unhealthy need of attention, claiming to be "punk" and independent despite being ex models or actors and coming from priviledged backgrounds, guilty of using nepotism to further their careers, reworking old genres, copying older bands or characterized by rude and nonsensical behaviour. Examples of indie cows or cows in the making:
Previous thread milk & discussion:
>Dani Miller poverty larping >>1283783>Kim Gordon being an NLOG who wrote a book to bitch about Thurston, reveal intimate details of their divorce, flex all the famous people she knew and fucked and how fucking ~artistic~ she is >>1279833, >>1279885, >>1279902>Sonic Youth behaving like total idiots and posers, anon posts video of them bullying Narwuard, destroying a gift he bought them. A bunch of 40 year old manchildren ganged up on him like a buch of primary schoolers >>1285799>pretentious (and bad) cover of Aneurysm by Kim Gordon on Nirvana’s RnR Hall Of Fame live >>1453639, Kim lets us know how „punk” others said she is >Kim Gordon talking shit about women that she’s jealous of >>1453837, >Kim’s awful „clothing collection” >>1463224>1975 gets in trouble for ignoring grooming allegations about their friend >>1282004>Plant band Pale Waves changes from hottopic 80’s goth to 00’s pop punk. instead of skinwalking The Cure they LARP as Avril Lavigne and her band now >>1279871>Insider milk on Pale Waves band. Heather Gracie Barons & drummer were mean backstabber cloutchasing bitches and social ladder climbers >>1282004 Didn’t credit their ex guitarist for writing their first hit song and kicked him out of the band >>1282268, >>1282297, >>1282325 >HGB used to have basic girl youtube with Taylor Swift covers >>1282335>A lot of milk on Yoni Wolf from WHY >>1284838>Voina band throws cats at McDonald workers and calls it „art performance” >>1280444 Nadia from Pussy Riot does „art performance” (read: gets fucked by scrawny ugly men in a public museum orgy. vomit>Phoebe Bridgers dates her childhood idol Conor Oberst and does embarassing memes of him >>1285030>Phoebe flaunts bisexuality for cool points >>1285041, >>1389964, >>1389966, >>1390120>Phoebe goes to Ireland for a few days just to fuck Paul Mescal >>1285303>An angry whiteknight, presumably Phoebe Bridgers herself, comes to thread to fight >>1286003, >>1286031>Phoebe Bridgers bullshitting about having ADD >>1286868>Phoebe lies about growing up poor >>1286868, >>1287259, actually grew up in a huge mansion with real estate agent mommy and TV producer daddy>anon says Phoebe doesn’t pay her interns >>1289628>Will Toledo is a furry >>1287660, >>1287926>various band milk >>1289258, >>1289613>Sabrina of Pretty Sick has super rich CEO daddy but used to pretend she’s poor >>1291150, >>1291362 >Sabrina cringiness… i don even know what to say >>1383151 wears around cum & blood necklace >>1386849>Phoebe gets sued for defamation by one of the countless producer scrotes she dated, this time one she was in polyamorous thing with >>1337421, >>1338890, >>1337478, >>1338898>Phoebe cringeposting bout her plant bestie Billie Eilish >>1340509>Mitski underpays her band >>1291374>Chelsea Wolfe turns out to be a plant >>1339007>vintage milk on majorly forgotten but once milky cow Inger Lorre of The Nymphs >>1340998, >>1341001, >>1341034, >>1341261>Amy Taylor of Amyl & Sniffers and Miley Cyrus beef >>1344516, >>1345256, >Kelsy Karter milk: ridiculous industry plant insta thot type skinwalking Megan Fox and LARPing as a „punk rocker” >>1347466, >>1347767, >>1347804, >>1347819, previously „famous” for fake prank-tattoing Harry Styles on her cheek >>1347912 and writing thirst trap songs about wanting to fuck him >>1347911 gets pushed by plant-shiller Dave Grohl >>1348487, >>1349231, but still fuck knows who is she >Phoebe as „weed queen uwu 420” invites fans to record themselves smoking pot for a contest, which is to recreate Phoebe’s music video, which shows her smoking pot >>1327074>Snail Mail allegedly calls Phoebe Bridgers out on fake bipolar girl vibes >>1389522, related NLOGerry >>1389964, >>1389966, >>1390120>more from Snail Mail >>1390437 everybody thinks she means Phoebe>Phoebe makes aa record label that pretty much promotes nonbies, themlets and trans cringelords exclusively, they/them Scruffpuppy typed for biggest „star” >>1312976, >Scruffpuppy gets cancelled before he even happens >>1390222, >>1390225, >>1390231, >>1390234, >>1390234, for a lot of awful shit he did to his girlfriend. Phoebe’s label drops him >>1390237>Old ass 90’s milk on Veruca Salt, especially Louise Post who likes to seethe, throw tantrums and write songs about Dave Grohl >>1336935, >>1337063, >>1337379, >Absolutely disgusting news on Alexis Marshall abusing Lingua Ignota to the point of damaging her spine during sex >>1390342, >>1390343, >>1391301, >>1393410>some Brazilian band milk >>1393458>new plant Holly Humbersome gets BRIT award, except nobody knows wtf is she >>1438150, >>1438208, >>1438241>A total nobody Demi Demitro of The Velveteers selfposts in the thread whiteknighting other cows >>1450643, >>1451212, anons correctly guess her identity. >Demi Demitro turns out to be next Courtney Love skinwalker and a rich nepotism baby/ indie plant too >>1451377, >>1451492, >>1451580, >>1451592, but pretends to be uwu poor baby >>1451576 (like most nepotism brats ITT)>St Vincent being industry plant >>1451511, >>1453601 makes pretentious concept album on which she pretty much makes excuses for her rich daddy doing his jail time for a whitecollar crime >>1453601>Phoebe Bridgers gets Billboard award for nothing >>1457408>Ridiculous emo milk >>1457480, >>1457996, >>1458748>Dani Miller milks her friend’s death, makes multiple tiktoks of her crying from every angle, perfectly executed makeup on, full stylized, uncomfortable choker e-girl styling still on, adding Euphoria theme as soundtrack >>1461306>Alice Glass has a traumacore cockroach Nicole Dollanganger phase >>1468143, >>1468149>Donita Sparks loses self-respect, shills Arrow De Wilde and makes a cringey karaoke video >>1483868, >>1483928>Conor Oberst gets gravelly offended cause some teen insulted his skate shoes >>1499353>Kelsy Karter says goodbye to pop-punk, right after shitting out a pop-punk album, because suddenly „she just doesn’t buy it” >>1500717>Kelsy skinwalks Brody Dalle and goes on „Pink, Kink and Punk Tour” >>1500721, >>1500724, >>1500726>some dumb Ogbert The Nerd trans whining >>1505029, >>1505107>Dani Miller walks round with Jared Leto’s prosthetic head and professes love to her joker teen-groomer husbando >>1509661>Dani obsessing over her muahaha i’m so cool guys Jimmy Kimmel stoner cameo before she was „famous” >>1509689>Milk on Lauren Tate from Hands Off Gretel: girl has a rich stage mom who pushed her hard to attend talent shows and become famous. Her mother also happens to be her manager, photographer, PR and promoter >>1509760, >>1510058>Lauren being Hole, Jack Off Jill, Brody Dalle and Melanie Martinez skinwalker >>1510774 , >>1509760, >>1509850, >>1509876, >>1509897, >>1510766>Lauren Tate begging Robert Plant and Slash for a shoutout (what a cringetard) >>1510602>Lauren allegedly bullies her bandmates >>1510782, >>1510792>Lauren’s hate accounts start spilling truth about her & her parents >>1510795>Lauren claims she’s taking legal action against hate accounts that bully her for 5 years and „create fabricated stories on her”. Hate accounts claim Lauren Tate is creating fake accounts to harass others and even makes fake hater accounts to hate on her own self just to throw pity party >>1510795, >>1510796, >>1510808>Kat Bjelland skinwalker Arta Saleri of Quinn The Brain who also rips off Babes in Toyland music in every way >>1510058, >>1510675, >>1510807, >>1510858, >>1510679, >>1510822, >Bad Courtney Love/Babes in Toyland skinwalker/babydoll aliexpress rock band Margaritas Podridas >>1510538, >>1510541, >>1510553, >>1510557 exists purely to photograph themselves with Hole/Nirvana merch, visit all places related to Nirvana and take photos with Kurt’s toilet >>1510707, >>1510709>Margaritas Podridas covering their sexual assaulter drummer’s ass >>1510538, >>1510645, >>1510673>Milk on Margaritas Podridas/Senor Kino members. Rich parents fund all their career expecting it to be a good investment, and even bought them Coachella spot >>1510574, >>1510606, >>1510633>Margaritas Podridas ripping off posters, photoshoots, album covers and music videos of Hole and Babes in Toyland >>1518507, >>1518511, >>1518514>Margaritas sounds worse than Starcrawler, which is an achievement >>1554202>New industry plants, Wet Leg >>1512164, >>1512228, >>1512233>The truth about Lori Barbero of Babes in Toyland. She’s a cruel, vile cunt who pushed Kat Bjelland BACK into addiction INTENTIONALLY, then kept laughing at her (it resulted in Kat having end stage of liver failure today). She behaves oddly possesive of Babes in Toyland and in fact she’s the one ruling the band. She’s a bitch basically to everyone and she’s treated Maureen, and especially Kat like shit for years, because she hates junkies, even though she’s a raging alcoholic and psychedelics user herself >>1514226, >>1514236, >>1514239, >>1514241, >>1514246, >>1514257, >>1514280, >>1514291, >>1514292, >>1514381, >>1514487, >>1514609, >>1514610>Courtney Love being a bitch to Kat Bjelland and laughing at her financial situation >>1514720, >>1514725> John Maus randomly texting and asking a fan to please stop being a Satanist. >>1516118, >>1516119>MrBufferBieber guy who’s crazy in love with Hayley Williams, makes tons of videos of him kissing his Hayley Williams shirt >>1559345 implies he’s going to be on Love Island, anons hopeful for milk>Sunflower Bean milk, drummer transforms himself into uwu little girl >>1565652, >>1567100, >>1567103>Kelly Mayo skinwalks Exene Cervenka >>1600587>pop punk being alive and well! Here’s current very creative hit: Twinkle Twinkle Little Bitch >>1604315, >>1604486>info on Gucci socialite Zumi Rosół >>1606226>anons place bets Toledo is going to troon out >>1610223>Davey Havoc/AFI milk >>1610544>honourable post! Let’s het FREAKY NOW >>1605792Links:
https://www.instagram.com/phoebebridgers/https://twitter.com/phoebe_bridgershttps://www.instagram.com/alienzarereal/https://www.instagram.com/therealsurfbort/https://www.instagram.com/sickysab/https://www.instagram.com/kelsykarter/https://www.instagram.com/heatherbarongracie/https://www.instagram.com/skatingpolly/https://www.instagram.com/kellipolly/https://www.instagram.com/cherryglazerr/https://www.instagram.com/yostazyo/https://www.instagram.com/gracemckagan/https://www.instagram.com/choirofthemind/ No. 1611546
Forgot to post 1st thread link
Indie Band Cows General #1 :
>>>/snow/1279186>>>/snow/1279186 No. 1613350
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Nadia Lee Cohen deserves her own thread, what a cow
No. 1613627
>>1613350please, please post the milk. I couldn't find anything on her. I'm seeing her because she's a bestie with Arrow, Dani and co.
Idk how much milk there is on her if she deserves her own thread, but please post what you have. i KNEW she's a vain bitch. does she have rich parents?
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>>1614567Please tell us more.
- more on how it was when you met her?
- more on who exactly is her father please. i searched on her parents but found nothing
Her "art" is really shit, i'm glad someone shares my opinion. Typical "uh let's photograph white trailer trash and bimbofication tropes ironic bimbos cross old hollywood and throw ugliness and nudity". Parker Day is another example of that, her photos are perhaps even worse. yeah, photograph kitch and call yourself an artist, as if it hasn't been done million times before, better than you.
But it's the problem with ALL the nepo kids "artists" from LA, who are in fact trust funds who think they're sooo original because they "ironically" portray white trash and bimbos.
Nadia has her own exhibition now, barf. already been posted in Arrow thread before, but it's arguably one of her worst photos
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samefag, i tried to pick the worst pics from Nadia Lee, but i just can't. ALL of them are shitty as hell, all her instagram is shit.
guess having rich daddy and kissing Danny Trejo for a photo is enough to be considered an "artist"
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>>1614994>she puts out work besides being pretty enough to coast on being an ig personalitygirl half of her posts are just photos of herself. is doing something else than standing and looking pretty enough for you to like someone? cause that's what majority of the world is doing, and they don't get praise for that.
As for internet personalities, a lot of them do their own photos, or playing shitty music like Kelsy Karter, or have shitty businesses a'la Internetgirl or whatever. they're all putting out "work", it's just that it's shit, and they're allowed to do it bc of rich parents. how is Nadia different?
this chick's art would stand no chance without her being pretty, or more accurately, without having rich parents/connections from the start. i scrolled and one of the first photos she posted on IG was photoshoot in which she's kissing Danny Trejo
No. 1615128
>>1614920what is this 90s larper cindy sherman ripoff crap
men who do this get laughed out of art galleries, so i'm kind of impressed a girl is getting away with it.
but it is bad, wow.
are nadia's lips a prop, or real injections? sorry to be old but it's really disturbing to me how normalized in injections and surgery are to generation z. they don't even wait til their face bones have finished growing before fucking with them.
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>>1615129Pics i mentioned, there's one more where they're kissing. Maybe she begged Gilbert to ask his dad for this, kek
He's an actor so he prob didn't mind. shame that he didn't realize he's just being exploited, bc the pic was made for clout, not for art
>That's a guy you have a fucking bro down, storytime, end the day with a campfire on the beach hang withtrue, that sounds fun
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>>1615128>are nadia's lips a prop, or real injections?looks like they're real. why does she look like 70's shop mannequin tho
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>>1615187damn, it gets worse
No. 1615231
>>1615182>>1615228nooo why did she ruin her pretty face with this chloe cherry sad clown serial killer
victim shit
No. 1615236
>>1615233ayrt, the other pic is even worse.
I'd really like to know how she asked for that photo and HOW she described the great "concept" behind this piece of art.
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meanwhile at our Bisexual™ Queen
No. 1615687
>>1615542You guys, just say you like how Nadia looks and go. i don't get why you're dying to make her seem like some very hard working nepo baby. She is doing exactly the same amount of work as other LA rich kids - minimum effort, with instant career. if i want to see Cindy Sherman art, i go to see Cindy Sherman not insta thot that's ripping her off.
She's exactly the equivalent of Arrow or Sabrina, just in photography. ripping off well known artists and not getting calledout because they're rich/know some people. And now turns out she's fake and mean bitch. 100% typical LA art cow. Anons are right, if anybody else did what she did, they would get laughed at.
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>>1615438Any milk on Arrow and Dani especially? And you're bringing up exactly what i thought before:
>Gilbert literally hangs out with people a decade younger than him.this, and he's 34yo. that's not ancient, but at that age don't you have friends your age, with more life experience than fucking 19 year olds? he's going on tours with Starcrawler, so atsome point he was 30 and they were teenagers. ait's like he's trying to make himself younger than he is, add his nasty penchant for DD/lg and you see how pathetic it is. in 5 years he'll be 40 and still running with the kids trying to be uwu cute
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>>1615695he's 34??? oh man i thought he was 42. ok yeah in the entertainment biz, once you hit 40, you may have a friend group that ranges in age from 20 younger than you to 20 higher, because there are young performers, you might hire a bassist right out of college, your producers or directors might be much older than you, but you don't ONLY have 20 year old friends (i'm grouping fuck buddies, coworkers, and friends together in this example)
at 34, if you only have 22 year old friends, it means you're the one old guy in the group who is there because you can't make it over the bar of social interaction for other 34 year olds.
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>>1615929i genuinely thought she has prosthetic lips here
>>1613350 and mocking plastic surgheries was the point of thay photo. but then zoomed and it turned out it's not
i'm "manifesting" thin lips trend, just to watch them all panic and doing lip liposuction just to un-flate it
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>>1616218yah
>>1615128 thought it was a prosthetic too
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Margaritas Podridas somehow got Jack Endino to mix a song for them and they chose what sounds like their worst song yet to give to him
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>>1616750Well they have rich parents who bought them Coachella gig, so paying Jack Endino probably wasn't a problem for them. Jack probably wanted to be supportive, but i'd like to be fly on the wall and know what he really thinks about them and if he saw their instagram feed, full of Nirvana/Hole psychofan stuff.
>>1616773kek no, they're not sadbbydoll jess woods enough
No. 1617494
>>1617437I'm not the anon who posted it, but someone else who's from the same town/city as Margaritas Podridas and knew them brought the milk in the last thread. i mean it's all in thread summary anyway but here are the posts:
>>1510549,
>>1510574,
>>1510606,
>>1510633,
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>>1617858the band itself also dismisses the allegations, anon posted a bit about it before in last thread.
Tbh i don't know much about them, this bands isn't known at all in Europe, idk about North America. i'd read more milk about them if someone has. i'll just say they look ridiculous in those aliexpress babydoll dress knockoffs & this video is laughable. peak sadbbydoll tumblr
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>>1618809I mean, i thought it's obvious this thread and these cows are not milky in a standard way. like, we come here, drop whatever dirt we have on people from the industry, eventually post new milk from cows like Phoebe. i don't think you'll find a constantly & really milky cow here, definitely not /pt or even /snow level.
If we're looking for
consistently milky new cows, i'd say we need to keep an eye on Phoebe Bridgers, Dani Miller, Arrow (she has her own thread tho), Sabrina (sometimes) and especially Kelsy Karter, cause she has Vicky Shingles lever delusional narc boomer vibe about her, and feels perhaps most ridiculously misplaced of all. Dani & co. at least like rock music, Kelsy looks like some completely accidental thot who wandered into the scene somehow
but now that you mention vintage cows, i got remembered of one i wanted to ask you guys before about, i'll just write a proper summary
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Some anons will remember her i'm sure.
Lexa Vonn, a self-obsessed really niche cow, absolutely delusional about her level of fame.
>born Ivonne Nicoletti >40-something yo>delusional about her level of fame, hosts her own website>claims her Johnny Thunders was her cousin>in 90's she suddenly blowed up on MTV because of a t-shirt. She wore to school a White Zombie t-shirt showing woman with naked breasts and refused to change out of it, so the principal called police>held out a protest in front of the school, got escorted>in jail she wrote a letter that reached David Geffen>Geffen joined her publicity campaign which was televised by MTV & other stations, the case finally solved & principal got dismissed>spent young days on the streets of LA with gangs, modelling for boutics and acting in music videos>did "gore-gore dancing" for The Mentors, dressed in diapers (take that Arrow, you weren't the first like you think ha)>worked for some record labels and made clothes at the time too i guess>in 2000 started a band called Ophelia Rising. That's the band Emilie Autumn ripped everything she knew from (i'll get to this later)>the band released only one EP "Step 1: Acknowledge You're a Part of The System" and split>now you need to know one thing. Lexa was a MASSIVE Marilyn Manson fan/groupie>before going all-girl, she had a scrote guitarist who was also singing. they did a cover for a Marilyn Manson tribute, which was incidentally the only good cover on that CD>after Ophelia Rising split, Lexa had some column in some rock magazines. She found about 3 other "journalists" and basically pimped them out, i mean turned into "professional groupies" as she liked to call it, called "The Plastics">The Plastics had their website, forums etc. Lexa & her groupies would hit the Sunset Strip to do "art performance", which was fucking with famous rockstars, i mean "being a muse to them" but "actually professional". *"The Plastics soon became the “IT” girls of the Hollywood rock n’ roll scene, attracting both positive and negative attention. Along with their reviews, they offered local bands services in event hosting, go-go dancing and street team promotions. While supporting the local acts, the girls often dated celebrities, thus causing endless controversy. Jealous girls and provocateurs of sensationalism plagued the group with rumors and constant cyber bullying."
>aka Lexa probably didn't pay them, Lexa had an argument with them or insider dramas happened>Lexa used to be psycho Marilyn Manson fan and had a big Manson memorabilia collection, big enough she was selling out slowly through the years>allegedly she was Manson's groupie. not sure if they fucked for real but she befriended and met Manson a lot of times at the very least>in 2017, before the time when Manson got cancelled and all the allegations were spilling, Lexa took a completely differnt front and claimed Manson tied her and cut her up with the knife in 2011 or something. She filed sexual battery charges against him but she was immediately dismissed, because she used to sell Manson memorabilia. court said it's a campaign to get attention and sell more Manson itemsCurrently, Lexa simply does "solo" music. meaning, uploading videos on youtube. Now she's making/DIY remaking/selling punk clothes in her shop.
She's INCREDIBLY self-obsessed and delusional. Pretty much, reading her websites was milky in itself. She used to have a website Reallexavon.com on which she documented pretty much every thing she did, as if it was article news written by someone else and she was a big star. i know it's standard to make your own website as a musician of this caliber, but it was just beyond this. The site is now gone, she deleted this after she pressed charges against Manson, idk perhaps to hide she had connection with him or sold fan items. But she has a couple of other websites & socials now. She makes "interview with Lexa" type of videos about her past, influences, diaries, etc, she probably does Tiktoks now too. tons of material documenting every endeavor of her, idk how to describe it you'll read you'll know. she is/used to be some sort of pill addict, opiates or something else, and she has strange obsession with Boy George. not harmful but just kind of ridiculous in a lot of ways, she considers herself waaaay more famous than she "is". (i like her Ophelia Rising songs though). maybe someone has some more stuff on her
Here are current links i've found and some oldies:
https://plasticsfactory.wixsite.com/lexavonnhttps://thelegendoflexavonn.my-free.website/biohttps://plasticsprogroupies-blog.tumblr.com/whowearehttps://web.archive.org/web/20140602032819/http://www.plasticsgirls.com/https://www.facebook.com/RealLexaVonnhttps://www.instagram.com/lexavonnhttps://www.instagram.com/lexavonncollection/https://www.youtube.com/c/LexaVonn No. 1618903
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Now about her band, for the ones not familiar with the whole "Emilie Autumn ripped Ophelia Rising" drama. It was typical punk/alt music gothy girls dressed in corsets, a mix of JOJ, Rasputina and Manson, etc. What's interesting is the concept of the band, which is "Ophelia getting empowered". Fight like a girl? Opheliac? they did it all before
>The band name was derived from the book Reviving Ophelia, a psychological study on the loss of self experienced by adolescent females. Ophelia, having been a character created by Shakespeare who went insane and committed suicide after being emotionally torn apart by the men in her life she loved, was my version of Jim Morrison’s version of Dionysus. The band was a call to girls everywhere to fight, not the system, but our oppressors within it, that at times include ourselves.”
>Each song is an autobiographical tale of a situation that can potentially destroy you. However, it is through destruction that a new identity is born. You might subtitle the album: The Many Deaths of Ophelia.
>A common theme we present in our music is survivalism. When you have an open heart it is easy to drown in your love for other people, especially the fucked up ones. Ophelia Rising is about rising above these situations that hold you back; choosing life. It is also a reference to the return of the sacred feminine.they had Bloody Crumpets before Bloody Crumpets. they had chicks who danced, stripped, did lesbian stuff, etc. I mean even their scene and props look similar. more, they did crumpet throwing first. Emilie must've seen their LA show or at least found them online on some indie music website, since EA was advertizing herself on those sites too.
>"We have slogan that goes Sex, Drugs and Cupcakes. I get naked at the end of the show and throw pink cupcakes at the audience. I see the cupcake as a symbol of everything society expects a girl to be and everything that we as women want to transcend.We all met while wandering the music scene in West Hollywood, common friends and such. We’ve never had the opportunity to explode onstage, those kind of special effects were banned by the clubs after the Great White incident. But I do like to end each show by getting naked and throwing cupcakes to the crowd. I used to have two back up dancers in the band that would end up wrestling me in frosting. Afterwards, the fans would come up and lick the frosting off me. It was our holy communion.”
This blog did an article on the similarities and has a lot of photos:
https://millionsofstrangeshadows.tumblr.com/post/649216479655493632/ophelia-rising-the-original-opheliacs No. 1618904
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stage comparison
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The Plastics… oh boy there must've been the real drama. they look so trashy, i bet they must've been fighting/jealous of each other after a while. a bunch of dollar store Ditas Von Tease
No. 1618916
>>1618844haha, true. Phoebe Bridgers allegedly did, in the last thread. that whiteknight was oddly specific. oh and Demi Demitro, even though nobody even talked about her before lol. i need to check up what's up with the cows i mentioned more often. i'm sure there's something to post about it's just i don't pay close attention
Shit i just noticed my Lexa summary is just full of stupid mistakes and repetitions, that's what you get when you try to write and talk to someone at the same time i guess. too late to correct now though, sorry
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happy birthday terf hating bi queen! i wish you all the pussies you can ea– oh wait…
No. 1618979
>>1618968perhaps, but it was still entertaining to tinfoil about this
>i know a few of her friends irl give us some milk on Phoebe please
>>1618969well, she's kind of fat/fridgey.
No. 1619462
>>1619430I heard this band name but never paid attention to them, gotta look it up. I didn't know she skinwalks Katie Jane, the biggest KJ Garside skinwalker to date has been Arrow de Wilde though.
Jfc all these bitches are just so empty and unoriginal, and yet they get away with it because Katie Jane isn't known besides England and France
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I haven't seen their videos yet, but i can kinda see copying Daisy Chainsaw era KJG, not very drastically bbut yeah. Idk seems like the band is still existing? They have only 4000+ followers only though. And damn, lame band name. Obviously House of 1000 Corpses reference, all the basic bitches with e-girl costumes love this shit
No. 1619479
>>1619468As someone who LOVED QueenAdreena back in high school during the 2000, KatieJane Garside is truly one of a kind and I can't ever see anyone invoking the awesomeness of that band.
>>1619462I think these imitators showcase why they can never hold a candle to those they skinwalk because the OGs didn't just rely on their appearance to get by. I know that KJG is considered pretty but she had one heck of a voice and a quirky personality that showed how into the arts and literature she grew up and had interest with. These imitators don't seem to have any real interests aside from just skinwalking their idol.
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>>1619468kek she's even wearing the same sort of corset like Arrow here, which was a copy of a corset Katie Jane wore. these bitches are all the same. I haven't listen to anything of them yet, but if the chick is imitating Kate Jane's singing then double cringe.>>1619468
No. 1619484
>>1619479Same anon, i love Katie Jane so much, all of her music is great and pretty much all about her is so interesting: her lyrics, poems, her style (handmade clothes), her life overall because it was crazy. I found her so weirdly enchanting and relatable because of her just running around the world and hiding from people in isolated places, then coming back with strange music, and being so truly different in all of the interviews. i believe she has some mental illness, she mentioned disassociating a lot and even schizophrenia, but ever since she got laughed down for it in Daisy Chainsaw days she stopped.
So it's even more annoying to see shallow narcs wearing her skin. i can ignore Pussyliquor chick as it's not immediately obvious and prob not as often, but Arrow was just so offputting. i still keep my fingers crossed that she gets a proper callout
No. 1619520
>>1619462>>1619468>>1619479>>1619480>>1619484I’m glad I got a discussion going! But yeah I even remember briefly mentioning Katie Jane was one of my fav artists and (I think the singers gf? or just friend idk some girl I was talking to at a party) saying that KJ is one of the singers inspiration and I was like…you don’t say…..
The thing is whilst I do think KJ did amplify her stage ‘character’ to make it more of an immersive performance, she’s genuinely a talented person and is definitely not ‘neurotypical’ (sorry don’t know what else to use). She’s naturally weird but it’s endearing and I love the worlds she creates with her different projects.
Pussyliquor is a mixture of inspirations which is inevitable but unfortunately they don’t bring anything new, interesting or at least fun to the table. It’s being ‘out of the norm’ for the fun of it and to be counter culture with no substance.
>>1619494Also yes! Crispin is a mess but unfortunately him and KJ is what made QA (and DC) what they were. I think he’s still trying to ‘go back’ to that era with all the new bands he’s formed with he’s new gfs over the past 10+ years. If you watch the interview I linked above, you’ll get it despite all that’s left unsaid.
No. 1619534
>>1619520She consciously added theatrical elements to Daisy Chainsaw shows, which she admitted, but as for the rest of her bands, I think it's just how she is. From what she said in interviews it seems like she likes improvisation, meditation etc. and music takes her into some "other" space. While i'd probably say "yeah right" at anyone else claiming this, Katie Jane is someone i 100% believe in this regard, i mean it's visible. And yeah she's not neurotypical in the least, the weirdness is real. you can "feel" she's not there, or she is there, but in some different way & it's not fake "crazy" idiots like Arrow do.
>I think he’s still trying to ‘go back’ to that era with all the new bands he’s formed with he’s new gfs over the past 10+ years.omg yes. All of his other projects were just copies of Katie Jane more or less, besides Dogbones maybe. His current singer Starsha Lee gets compared to KJG and she's so fucking pissed about it, seen her write some salty comments. She says she spent most of her life in Brazil and didn't know about Katie, so take this as you will. Maybe it's true. Perhaps it's not as much her copying as much as Crispin finding same trade of chicks (visually), ahem.
The problem with Crispin is that he dated Katie in Daisy Chainsaw era and they split at some point. All Daisy chainsaw texts were written by Crispin and Katie wanted to write too, but he didn't want. She was done with media slamming her constantly and had a mental breakdown at some point, but she said not being able to express herself played some role too.
After they reconnected for Queen Adreena, it was good for a while and then Crispin pulled a huge diva. They were arguing for a while, and after Drink Me they were on the verge of quitting. They finally made next album but Crispin literally wouldn't sit with others in the same room, Katie was writing with Pete Howard & his teenage sons in their garage and sending ideas to Crispin back and forth.
Now Crispin seemingly undermines Queen Adreena, especially songs that were more Katie ideas than his. He allegedly made up with Katie & others these days but it's still telling how there's still some remnants of bitterness left lol
No. 1619585
>>1619534NTA, didn't Crispin also write the song "X-ing Off The Days" about KJG after she left? The lyrics are pretty harsh
>You walk all over anyone>Who dares to be a friend>Scream and yell because>You deem them unenlightened
>High upon your horse, you preach>You preach, you preach, you preach>Love thy fellow humans>All these filthy little creeps
>I do not know the answers>To the universe, I fear>So drop me cold and go and find>Your perfect man, my dear
>X-ing off the days>X-ing off the days
>I nearly broke my back>As I was bending back for you>Half the time was hell with you>And half a waste of time
>High upon your horse, you preach>You preach, you preach, you preach>Love thy fellow humans>All the filthy little creeps
>Black and white, left and right>Wrong and wrong, wrong and right>Black and white, left and right>Wrong and wrong and wrong and right>White and black, wrong and black>Left and black and wrong and right>Left and right, wrong and black>Wrong and right, black and white No. 1619623
>>1619585i mean, they split on bad terms. she was the one more hurt in my opinion. she had the press against her, calling her psycho, insane, stupid and whatnot, and couldn't even write her own lyrics. She went through the breakdown, Crispin just got his ego wounded.
>>1619600nah he's not groomey rapey, but he's a cow who didn't have it his way, so he threw a tantrum in a corner like a 5 year old. he's bitter because Daisy Chainsaw didn't get higher, and Queen Adreena failed commercially. he also gets salty because he discovered he was only good in combo with KatieJane. he tried to continue Daisy Chainsaw with some normie chick, and in the end he was the only one singing, but he flopped without KJG. same with other bands where he casted lookalikes. The only exception band that worked was The Dogbones, it was more grungey bc Nomi liked Nirvana and stuff.
>men get so dramatic when a woman stops making their sandwichesbest description of what happened lol
No. 1619633
>>1619623that being said, i love his music. he has a very unique guitar sound, and unique, weird riffing. guitars were better in QA and DC rather than Ruby Throat (Katie's solo project she does with her husband). I read abit about it and turns out he's got some faulty wired guitar or faulty wired amplifier at the pawn shop
tbh i could talk for days about queen adreena
No. 1619653
>>1619623>only good in combo with KatieJanethis is one of the most basic facts of being in a popular music group though. he must be very childish to be surprised by it then.
a band, whether rock band or rap crew or some kind of behind-the-man popstar songwriting group, is not like a group of car mechanics. it's not about facts, or numbers. there's something subjective that depends on intangible social stuff, and that is as much a part of your music as the notes you write down. it's like…not a new concept at all.
No. 1619668
>>1619653Idk, maybe Crispin wanted to be singer/superstar. He wasn't even the only one who pulled that shit, Queen Adreena's first bassist quit because "Everyone's attention was too much on Katie and not on the band" lmao
crybabies
No. 1619701
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>>1619676she was also original, she did "old lingerie" and "nymph in the wood" way before everyone, and did it effortlessly. I like Taxidermy and Drink Me era looks the best for some reason.
>>1619676True. i think she used to have
abusive ex though. her lyrics mention something like that. she had a blog and she wrote something about blames herself for death of her first boyfriend and so she chooses violet lover punish herself or something. if that's true, i'm happy for her that she's in a better place now. that she has a husband that understands her now & a daughter she wanted for so long.
No. 1619865
>>1619534>>1619623>>1619633>>1619676Crispin and Katie do work well together and I guess part of it was the push and pull of their relationship. I still like KJGs music with her husband, it’s more quiet although the new ‘liar, flower’ album has some heavier elements but unfortunately it’s just not the same. Crispin is a diva but you can’t deny his talent and unique sound (when in combo with KJG esp as the other women really do drown out the sound).
The switch between the soft and quiet and loud and brash is what made QA what they were. But it seemed at the time the crowds didn’t like it until a stronger fan base was built. Despite everything they’ll never reunite. It’s very telling that whilst Crispin is bitter, he still deep down hopes they’ll make a comeback (at least for a tour) whilst KJG was very quiet and hesitant when asked about a QA comeback. Why would she when she’s got the life she’s always wanted (husband, kids, boat life and a career where she can come back whenever she wants and sells well).
>>1619668Crispin’s vocals are good with KJG but boring on their own. Going for another singer in DC after KJG before he tried to sing himself and then they went with that random Japanese artist that was looking for an edgier phase, to form a useless band that again was just scraps from DC.
>>1619701Pete Howard always gave me weird vibes so idk if maybe she was talking about him sometimes bc I remember reading some stories from people who met the band saying he was a quiet, intense dude who seemed weirdly territorial over KJG. She wrote songs about Crispin whilst she was dating/married to him and in the same band so I don’t see why she wouldn’t do the same about Pete.
No. 1619882
>>1619484AYRT and agree so much with all you said. And yeah I remember watching a few KJG interviews and she had these nervous twitches in some of them and she would talk in a more poetic sounding way and I remember some people woule say that she was on drugs. I didn't know what to believe at the time (I was 16 when I saw those interviews on early YouTube lol). But I didn't want to judge her for that possibility because I loved QA so much. And then I read up more about her when she disappeared from the public to live on her boat with her husband. She definitely seemed to really value her privacy and not be made a spectacle and I can respect that.
>>1619520>>1619585>>1619623I actually never really looked much into Crispin because I was more infatuated with KJG at the time so this is all new to me lol. I respected his guitar playing style, it's really unique for sure. It's sad to hear that the break up was on bad terms and I'd like to believe that it wasn't about money and more about losing connection because they worked with each other for such a long time.
>>1619668Oi I didn't know that… It's sad in a way because Katie really was a hidden gem and she didn't want that seeing as how much of a social recluse she is.
>>1619676Agree with this. Katie on the surface back during DC days and the first few years of QA, she may have looked frail on the outside but behind it was this force to be reckoned with on stage with some of the antics she did, it's part of what made her so iconic. It helped that it felt natural.
>>1619701>Taxidermy and Drink Me era looksAgreed! Those are my favorites too aside from some looks she did doing the Butcher and the Butterfly.
>>1619865>Crispin and Katie do work well together and I guess part of it was the push and pull of their relationship. I still like KJGs music with her husband, it’s more quiet although the new ‘liar, flower’ album has some heavier elements but unfortunately it’s just not the same. Crispin is a diva but you can’t deny his talent and unique sound (when in combo with KJG esp as the other women really do drown out the sound).Agreed. Crispin may be a bit of diva but there's no denying he was talented and that he and KJG had great music making collaboration.
>Crispin’s vocals are good with KJG but boring on their own. Going for another singer in DC after KJG before he tried to sing himself and then they went with that random Japanese artist that was looking for an edgier phase, to form a useless band that again was just scraps from DC.Agreed, Crispin's vocals are passable but on their own, it just doesn't have that punch factor that Katie had and that many of the replacements didn't have neither. I don't want to come down too hard on Crispin because he obviously loved doing DC and QA and there's nothing wrong with that. It's not like he's harassing Katie (that I know of). I just hope that he can find a new passion project that he's satisfied with like how Katie is with her solo work.
No. 1620003
>>1619865>She wrote songs about Crispin whilst she was dating/married to him and in the same band so I don’t see why she wouldn’t do the same about Pete.But she dated Crispin in Daisy Chainsaw times, and she didn't write songs back then. unless you mean in Queen Adreena? tbh i wouldn't know which songs are about who, because she had a couple different boyfriends at least while in QA
>who seemed weirdly territorial over KJGDamn. Idk if she was talking about him specifically, but they definitly dated for a while, and in the last stage (Djinn album tours) he was already out of th band. Maybe you're right. I also don't think she'd like to come back to Queen Adreena because it was genuinely unhappy time for her. Maybe not as much as Daisy Chainsaw (she's really allergic towrds all DC mentions, she even didn't have a daisy chainsaw section on her website while all of her other projects had) & she clearly states she hated it in interviews. She was the one who left QA and just vanished in 2008 or so, so if she had to deal with both Pete Howard and Crispin throwing ego tantrums, then good luck, i would be outof band too. She found a guy that genuinely fits her imo because he has the same sort of boatman/busker vibe about him and from how he speaks about her it seemed like he's maybe the first guy who doesn't think of her as this crazy bitch or whatever
Any more stories you heard about meeting the band? it's always interesting
No. 1620012
>>1619882I don't think she was on drugs, that was maybe due to her overall being or problems, idk she seems very socially awkward. but who knows if you take her lyrics as truth about her (and it's safe to assume a lot of them are in this case) then she used to drink, maybe doing benzos (sleeping pill). who knows though maybe she did something more, i heard while in Daisy Chainsaw she dropped acid sometimes.
ppl of youtube generally assume she's on drugs but it's just the way she is consistently. i noticed though there's a big difference between her DC and in QA, in her behaviour. she seemed more hyped up when younger. maybe she was on something, or maybe she became more reserved with age & life experiences
As for Crispin he's def not the worst, a bit of a diva surely. they seem on good terms and in mail contact again, idk if that includes Howard tough
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Since we're on the topic, kind of want to share some stuff I found on The Dogbones, one of Crispin's other band projects after KJG left
http://www.nemesis.to/dogbonesinterview.htmIt's an interesting interview overall, seems like Nomi Leonard wasn't a huge fan of KJG's fans or aesthetic
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And here's Nomi's account of why she stopped working with Crispin, from FB. Apparently, both he and Sofia (singer of Starsha Lee) are cow-tier
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No. 1620371
>>1620326,
>>1620331,
>>1620334,
>>1620338,
>>1620343,
>>1620346,
Woooof girl. Concrete milk. I had no idea… So, Nomi's baby is CRISPIN'S? WTF? I knew they dated but i thought she had the baby with new bf!
I haven't even read this all yet, just a couple screens in but… WHAT. a fucking. shitbag. Jfc anon who said she gets awful narc boyfriend vibes from him was 100% right. Jesus i feel so bad for Nomi (she's also struggling with health, she has some serious muscle illness, i don't remember what but something that doesn't allow her to play guitar).
I'm in shock. This is awful, i knew he's awful cow but never thought he'd go to that lenghts. And i got reaaaally bad vibes from Starsha/Sophia chick too, with her passive, no, actually aggressive comments on Katie Jane, i'll post if i find them.
I feel so bad for Nomi and Katie and everyone ever involved with this scrote
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>>162037016/16
That's all I got on this for now
No. 1620382
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Continuing. Ever since I've seen Starsha Lee and Sophie's photography "artwork", i knew something is wrong. She's a total narcissist, from the looks of it. I mean, i know, self-portraits are a thing, and when you have no one else to photograph, you photograph yourself - i mean Katie Jane took a lot of pics of herself too. BUT, this girl's pics just scream self-obsessed, i can't really explain that. such a fucking art, a few blurry pics. wow.
She also throws herself around the stage, bares her chest and does the forced, high, squealing voice that annoyed the fuck out of me. i'm starting to believe she copies KJG and perhaps even Nomi.
honestly she reminds me a lil bit of Lindsay Usich. black hair, "photographer", doesn't give a fuck that her man is a narc who abuses other women.
No. 1620385
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>>1620382examples of "art"
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>>1620390I get it, but most of her pics is just her moping her head. gets boring after a while.
No. 1620408
>>1620394In the beginning i thought her photography is good, but then i realized it's very repetitive. it can pass, however her videos are something other. her filming herself and looking very cringe for whatever reason. sounding too.
>>1620384tbh Dogbones were what they were also bc of Nomi. She was also writing riffs and lyrics to some songs, and i think she was the reason it's so grungey because she likes Nirvana so much. i don't remember which songs she wrote besides Leyline but it looks to me like Stich Me and This Particular Hole were prob hers
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I hate women who grift on being female musicians like it’s a fucking novelty so much. Is there a word for this? Musical NLOG?
No. 1620588
>>1615128> men who do this get laughed out of art galleriesLate to the party but that’s not true, look at David LaChapelle
>>1618918I loathe is insufferable cow so much, her popularity never ceases to confuse me. I mean music isn’t objectively bad, it bores me but that’s subjective. The way zoomers are rabid over her makes no sense to me
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>>1620560Meanwhile, we stan a girl in a band who doesn't make a thing about being THE GIRL IN A BAND and just kicks ass.
No. 1620630
>>1620597I think he's pretty in love with himself, but not a raging misogynist.
as for terrible men in otherwise good bands:
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/the-long-blondes-reunion-shows-canceled-after-sexual-assault-allegations-against-guitarist/Men ruin everything.
No. 1620755
>>1620560we talked about this book a lot in the previous thread, you can see
>>1279833,
>>1279885,
>>1279902i was the anon who originally brought this up, what a fucking cow. i have no idea why people still love Sonic Youth and kiss the ground that Kim stands on, like some goddess when their impact on rock was minimal. bunch of pretentious rich fucks who thought they're most artistic, most alt ever. And this video shows how obnoxious Sonic Youth really is
>>1285799 No. 1620765
>>1620571yo any more info on those sessions? were they QA album sessions or something else?
well she admitted she's a little sex obsessed and she behaved like that onstage, but i doubt she walks offstage and tries to have sex with everyone in the sight. but yes she wore see through tits out clothes in the streets, she said she gets a lot of hate for how she dresses. i guess she just likes it.
makes me barf at Arrow and how hard she tries to walk with tits out in the streets like Katie Jane too
No. 1620970
>>1620906>>1620927>>1620968not that anon but i see no problem with her sitting in guys laps if they were friends and comfortable with each other. if they were strangers then sure, that's a little weird. maybe she was trying to flirt
>>1620906i wouldn't complain either
No. 1621205
>>1621121you know what i'll give the english their personal space
come sit VERY close to me and we will fear them together kek
No. 1621215
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Dani Miller has a new "music project", Trashworld.
Jfc i hate these LA morons with their pathetic poverty larps. Shitty destroyed basements crowded with carefully aranged trash, yey! much poverty, so artistic! talk back to us Dani when you're a homeless bitch prostituing and sleeping among real trash, let's see if it's still so cool and ~artsy~
No. 1621225
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>>1621215Words cannot express how stupid is that chick. Seems like she deleted a lot of tiktoks, but she literally livestreamed her shaving her leg hair (and pussy as well, considering her nasty hair isn't peaking from her pants as they always did, just HOPEFULLY off camera) for the first time in 10 years and calling it "clearing energy" and "big life change".
Take notes Arrow, you hasn't done such idiocies for fame yet huh
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It's also really annoying how she documents online every damn time she grieves her friend's death for clout, cause i don't know why else she posts this shit. Pretty much like Lilith Levisis used to milk death of that one chick. again, she deleted these but she used to have video sighing, making stupid faces and trying hard to cry along to dramatic soundtrack, while sitting in a car. And then, just few minutes later she sent a new video from the same day same car, jumping around like a moron and doin her usual happy "cRaZy uGlY cHic!" thing as if nothing happen. she just made it and uploaded it in one shuffle, weekly fake crying vid on the checklist, done, next. that's just so… distasteful
No. 1621270
>>1621215>>1621225these photos remind me of when ugly fat girls would make silly faces in all their profile pics to look like a hot girl making an ugly face.
the top photo is legitimately perplexing though. pandemic's over - how do you get that out of shape unless you're in the hospital on your back all year? she never dances on stage or lifts shit onto a bus?
No. 1621293
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>>1620588kek honestly. i don't even know that much about how she got her start but she couldn't be any more forced and manufactured if she stood in a flower pot and wet herself with a watering can
No. 1621299
>>1621293she has industry parents, and she fucked a lot of indie producers and musicians. It's all said in the previous thread, it's all in the damn summary up site.
That being said, she's just as pushed around as Billie Eilish was, getting Grammies and stuff. I don't know who approved that, i mean fucking Ryan Adams &Conor Oberst helps but why exactly she skyrocketed so much. why was she picked up as next it celebrity all of a sudden. cause it's much more than just indie fame
No. 1621797
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>>1621746i found interview where she says she had bad teeth and went to dentist and it got worse. idk
No. 1621851
>>1621839Wait, wait. I'm rereading it and… she went to the dentist and couldn't put fakes in, so they pulled her fucking tooth out to make more space to fit fakes in, and then she just said "Ah well i'm over it i'm speshull now~", and she decided NOT to put fakes in and left gaping holes in her mouth? Jeez if that's true, then they paid good money just to have people make even bigger hole and then left midway bc "i'm over it now".
That or it's just some fantastic bullshit. Can we find her childhood photos? maybe she has some on her insta
No. 1621856
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Interesting that she says nothng that would indicate how wealthy or not her parents are, what jobs they had etc. Just that they're bikers.
No. 1623073
>>1621798No. Lush were an actually good band with an original sound (one of the first to be called shoegaze I think).
I don't really care if someone has industry contacts via their parents, what grinds my gears is when those contacts are used to push that person to the top of the queue and the charts.
No. 1624045
>>1620755I admit that I still like some of Sonic Youth's music. I really like songs like "Bull In the Heather", "Kool Thing", "Jams Run Free", and "Reena" to name a few songs. Despite the drama that happened within the band, in my opinion they had a rather neat sound.
That said, it sucks that Kim is so awful to other women in the industry.
No. 1624394
>>1624062Again I understand. The lyrics are pretty cringe, especially the male white corporate oppression bit but still, I like the instrumentals in that song and Kim's singing voice just worked for it.
>>1624200It was more or less the same for me, I was never a fan of full albums of theirs because there were plenty of songs that I didn't like and thought sounded bad but the few that did catch my ear, I like listening to them lol.
With Sonic Youth, it's just a hard separate the artist from their work type of deal. It's not like anyone in the band committed rape or murder, just drama that unfortunately a lot of bands can have in them.
No. 1637945
Saged cause unusual post, but i think it needs to be discussed. Anons posting here are probably aware by now of the situation Keffals vs Kiwifarms, censoring internet by troons and how LC is likely to be their next target. can we talk where could we move in case LC gets taken down too?
Arrow, Indie cows thread, Emilie Autumn thread as well, are all very specific niche minor cows, and if we want to continue to get that niche milk (and i know i do), we'd have to be the ones to remake threads in case something happens to lolcow. both IBCG and Arrow threads are archived on Wayback Machine and archive.is.
Any ideas where should we go if LC is no more? other nonnies mentioned going to crystal cafe, livejournal, making up their own chans, whatever, but it's still largely undecided where we all go if. I honestly thought if it doesn't get sorted out yet and lolcow suddenly goes down, i'd make a temporary "indiebandcows.tumblr.com" and we could communicate through anon asks, to sort out what to do next.
That being said, i hope nothing happens to lolcow, but i feel we shouldn't feel too optimistic.
No. 1643458
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Samefag, found on wiki.
>Early in their professional career, The SoapGirls were a dance-pop act signed to the South African branch of Universal Music Group.[4]
>At ages 14 and 15 (c. 2010), following interest in the song on the Japanese compilation disc, they were signed to Universal Records[8] where they scored a South African number one hit album Xperience (2011) and four South African Top 5 singles[10][4] with exposure on a number of South African TV shows, compilation CDs,[11] and national tours
Lmao, very punk rock indeed. Connected parents confirmed?
No. 1643463
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Their mother is their manager. Hands Off Gretel vibes i see.
No. 1643467
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Lmao, they look very punk rock indeed.
No. 1643474
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No. 1643481
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>>1643474>when they were 12-13 years old they were singing and dancing in the street>currently their shtick is wearing thongs and bras>>mom is their manager so is fully aware of and supporting their "sexy" imageDisgusted, but not surprised
>>1643448They're a South African Starcrawler in that they are saving rock and roll with their stunning voices and amazing instrumentals. I'm wondering if the scrotes commenting are bots or shills from nepotism connects or they're trying to shoot their shot someone from the group will notice the positive comments and try to fuck them. Judging by the emoji use I'm thinking they are bots.
No. 1643485
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I see why they're hailed by scrotes primarily tbh. When you google Soap Girls, all you see is these bimbos with their asses out.
(ew, all their CD covers are identical, and badly done. graphic design is my passion)
No. 1643562
>>1643496forgot to add that it's acoustic. The Introducing: soap girls article upthread has soundcloud link to dance version of the song.
I'm very confused why these rich/nepo pop chicks always choose to go into "punk rock"
No. 1644409
>>1644079Mom was additionally working for some label/promotion? i don't remember. And father worked for tv. they're somehow lowkey tied to music industry.
The point is, her mother was fucking rich and on her website, she claims she raised her children in huge mediterranean house, and if you google these + LA, you can see how they look like, and what cash they go for. Meaning, rich family. But Phoebe Bridgers claims she was poor, that her mother is a standup comedian not estate agent, and always cries she busked in the streets, and that "ppl who say money doesn't matter are always ppl who are rich" etc. Aka she's poverty/working class larper. people don't even question this, while the truth is just a google search away.
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>>1644409Apparently being surrounded by people richer than you means you’re not middle class or some shit
No. 1647592
>>1647577kek "my parents have a vacation house but my friend's parents have an island so if you think about it my family's kinda poor"
there's no shame in being an upperclass faildaughter as long as you admit it.
guess how i know No. 1658813
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>>1658785>>1658804Monandile is already cancelled for rape.
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>>1658785>>1658746James Ferraro and his 15 year old girlfriend Labanna Bly
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You should be
No. 1670952
>>1670935I was going to mention this, the i-D clips are all over my TikTok fyp (don’t judge me, it’s not a personal account, I work in digital media) and it seems so… manufactured.
>>1670613I can’t stand this fucking tranny-caping NLOG handmaiden, I wish she’d fuck off and take her mediocre music and psychotic fan base with her
No. 1671139
>>1670954>No Wave as an influenceanon, no wave happened before SY. they just came and hopped on the trend. They were nothing but a bunch of posturing rich kid skinwalkers who adapted to something that happened. Even Kim said they tried no wave when no wave was essentially already dead.
>Kim is genuinely talented as were the rest,disagree. Yes they had influence on younger people, unfortunately. but their music genuinely sucked most of the time and… Kim talented? i could agree their guitarist was talented, not Kim. She couldn't write melodies for shit, she just did singing-talking, and her lyrics was a bunch of pretentious nonsense.
None of what they've done was innovative or something that hasn't been done before
No. 1671350
>>1671139With the first point, that's what I meant by "what people really mean when they cite the No Wave as an influence" because most no wave shit was noise for the sake of noise. SY were the first ones to take those sounds and craft something resembling songs.
With the second point, Kim's bass was the only thing that anchored a lot of their early work and did double duty carrying the rhythm and melody when Thurston and Lee went off exploring textures. While a lot of her songs were pretentious and her singing resembles a cat being beaten, songs like Bull in the Heather, JC and Reena are still genuinely good pop songs.
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Adding that i-D does pay to play. or rather pay to get published. or get published through your friends. Arrow's pointless feature on i-D about 8 months before she even had a record out shows it perfectly. I see Weebadoob was slapped on cover of that ugly kink magazine for LA fucktards same a Arrow did, which makes me think she has friends in same wanker photo porn (uhm, i mean "art") spaces in LA.
interestingly i've seen inn comments she was accused of blackfishing for this shoot lol
Also… 1.6 millions of followers? yeah, no. not in the least. other indie chicks of her caliber get 230k follows at most. i can believe 1 million for Phoebe Bridgers but not this one. fake followers business here.
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>>1658823>>1658804In an interview she said:
>That was not the only time I had been sexually abused. I lost my virginity unwillingly as well. Although that situation was much more about the lack of education for both sexes, on the subject of rape. >>1660156Well she doesn't have a music career anymore, probably got blacklisted after the break up.
>>1660150He bragged about this on his blog, it is well known.
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It's over for indie.
No. 1672106
>>1672100>The eleventh wave is here, get your booster!damn, not again.
Hey indie bands, come to eastern Europe. Covid is cancelled, we only talk about war in Ukraine. no masks, no precautions, no dumb shit anymore.
No. 1672235
>>1672088Had a look at this and they have comments switched off, cowards
They get like average 1k insta likes, since social lives will take some years to recover after covid, they likely don't have enough die-hard fans in Europe to sustain a tour at present. Most festivals and gigs would be filled with casual fans rather than die-hard; you like one song by the band so you go. But a casual fan won't take the risk to book tickets to things that may be cancelled right now, until trust has been regained and social lives have recovered, (probably mid 2023-2024 things will pick up) bands all need to downscale otherwise they just make themselves look bad booking and cancelling like this.
No. 1672753
>>1672088>>1672175>>1672426We're pretty much through the looking glass of live shows being only plausible if you can get the funding for them well ahead of time from some conglomerate and are able and willing to give up a disgusting amount of profit for it. At least, you have to be seriously in demand for shows not going through a vendor like Live Nation to be salvageable at all.
From what I recall, AnCo go through some of the more straightforward tour companies that end up hitting a lot of mid-level spots in major cities. Large venues to stadiums have essentially been fully bought out by huge companies like Live Nation. It's a monopoly. This is why they can get away with charging ~$200 a pop for nosebleeds to a concert that just got announced - there's no competition left.
Indie bands get left in the dust if they truly wanna do it DIY anymore. You either pony it up and go hit the corporation-approved "small venue" circuit, giving up merch sales to venues and ticket sales to that company, or you attempt to forge what you can with your own say and usually end up shouldering nearly 100% of the financial burden and workload. I think Covid gave some big companies the perfect opportunity to put the hammer down and essentially make venues play by their rules. Real historic clubs that are just outside of major cities are already gone. I can think of a good handful off the top of my head near me that couldn't sustain being truly independent without already having a notable presence for years and years in the middle of a city.
At least I get to see Algernon Cadwallader live before live indie music dies off forever.
No. 1673073
>>1673019Mainstream/long established bands with lots of fans will be more or less. Let's take for example hmm, last band that toured in my country (in Europe) most recently, like Sum 41. they're not a super famous band anymore, like they were in years 2003-2008, they're not on mainstream labels anymore. But they've got dedicated fans worldwide so they can allow to tour freely. Now for indie bands who try hardest to DIY, or bands that are only known to select circles of ppl etc. yes they will have a problem. The whole organization side of these things is just black magic to me, things like anon here explains
>>1672753 but underground bands prob won't be able to tour worldwide.
>If even industry plant bands with rich parents like arrow can’t afford to tour because the demand isn’t there anymoreArrow is a a little different situation imo. starcrawler is not going to Europe now bc they're touring US - that's what US bands usually do after record release, Europe later. iirc they did a round of shitty European clubs + huge arenas with MCR in summer. (all in one tour! like 1 day playing for 50k kids who came to see cheerleader Gerard, next day they play for 20 ugly boomer dads in tiny club when Gerard has a day off. Shows perfectly the disparity between "nepo shows" and their "headlining gigs" lolol.)
Arrow is much much better situated than majority of indie bands, if she wanted she could cover half the cost from her mom's pocket. Her label is affiliated with Universal but they don't give them unlimited amount of money because there's no demand for HER band. And that's what she can't help even with mom bucks. They did and def will tour select countries in Europe, but unless she teams up with her mom's famous scrote friend bands again, Starcrawler will always play in shitty clubs (as they did before). it's a fake pumped hype with no real following. My point is, it's not even that demand isn't there anymore for starcrawler, i don't think there ever was
No. 1674292
>>1670935>>1670952>>1671620i-D in general is very, very manufacted magazine and it was since very start back in 1980, but always was advertised as "alternative". Dude who founded it, Terry Jones, worked in British Vogue back in 70s and iirc he worked literally on covers which is pretty much highly influential postion. i-D might started with street snaps of punks and goths but it quickly morphed into something closer to The Face, with full color pages, pieces about big bands and lot of fashion. In late 80s and early 90s they wanted to be more alternative and they started to virtue signal and spread early wokeism, which got less edgy by mid 90s (concides with Scott King, later of Sleazenation fame taking over art direction) and started to morph from culture-music-fashion hybrid magazine to glossy fashion rag that was almost same as other fashion magazines by mid 00s. Around ten years later, after Vice fucking bought it out it fallen down and web version was launched staffed by idiots same as at Vice which is worst parts of i-D condensed into site, with more dumb politics and lazy journalism (i-D has history of it going back to 90s, when social justice shit took good chunk of pages and people slammed them in letters, though it was pre-internet era). Now a literal legacy publication, tries to appeal to zoomers by featuring industry plants and literal whos which can easily support that they probably take money to shill some hacks. 20-25 years ago magazines like this shilled new acts but you knew they were big label acts or actually independent, undeground acts. Nowadays they'll try to pass industry plants as indie because there's not much of actual indie, underground artists getting signed and becoming famous. It's not organic anymore.
It's similar with re-launched The Face. Bea got a piece about her, they got fucking Shoichi Aoki to shoot her for more late 90s larp. It's similar to Pinkpantheress, she's more on electronic side (though fucking lazy, passing sped up Adam F's Circles with her vocals as her track lmao) who started to be shilled in a way very similar Bea got, basically using dying rags like i-D or Dazed with tiktok on top, combined with "mysterious" persona smells like plant for me. Her popularity was sudden and I never saw people talking about her before. I wonder why no one's talking about her, UK got a good chunk of industry plants, nepo babies and Brit School kids. Windmill scene or something? That band with Karl Hyde's (dude from Underworld) daugter smells both nepo and planted, not gonna lie.
>>1670975Zoomers seethe that they didn't got young adulthood their parents could have and this nostalgia schtick is pure cope, especially with how world fucked is now.
>>1671153Yeah, exactly. Earlier lables didn't hide that they manufacted these acts, I mentioned it earlier my post but it's mostly due to lack of acts that grew organically than label plants and nepo babies.
sage for autism
No. 1674310
>>1674292AYRT who works in digital media, you’re exactly right about i-D, but then the same can be said for all “trying to be edgy but still pretty mainstream” publications these days. I think it’s pretty hard to remain relevant when the majority of trends are being set by individuals on social media rather than people whose careers have been built around being arbiters of style and taste (ie print media editors, columnists, stylists, even bloggers have fuck all reach these days, it’s all about “influencers” and nepotism models). The Face should have never been resurrected, it was such an iconic magazine and now it’s just… well. As far as I’m concerned no music magazine will ever beat Select (RIP).
>>1673073Starcrawler have been to my city twice now, the first time was with the Growlers and they played at one of my favourite venues which was way too big for them (to give you an idea, it’s a venue that has had the likes of Sonic Youth, Beastie Boys, Primal Scream and even fucking Oasis play there) and the second time (earlier this year) they played at a shitty pub that no one who likes decent music would be caught dead at, kek (incidentally I had free tickets both times and even that wasn’t incentive for me to go). Anyway, my point is, bands like Starcrawler only get to play venues of calibre when they’re supporting bigger acts and when they play their own headline shows they can’t pull a crowd because it’s so fucking obvious that they’re a plant/product of nepotism or whatever. People who are really into music can smell that shit from a country mile and are not having it. There’s a certain degree of animosity toward obvious plants who score coveted support slots and festival bills because there are so many bands out there working their asses off and being far more deserving of that level of exposure.
No. 1674343
>>1674310Exactly. Same for Dazed, it fallen down even harder than i-D. Generally these magazines fail nowadays because most of staff that created them and their legacies are pushing their 50s and 40s, some i-D people are even older. It started in mid 00s, but nowadays it's even more accelerated.You're right about that internet randos can outdo these types of people who were tastemakers in print, trends spread differently and it's more decentralized that it was before. Lot of people who want to build careers on it must compete with randos that just steal scans from tumblr for an example and repost and start another meme trend. They try to stay relevant by writing about these accounts, nepo babies or industry plants with some shitty listicles to spoonfed zoomies about 90s and early 00s because they can't find anything themselves (tbh that's why these aesthetic accounts are so popular, they just copy their taste from here).
I agree about The Face completely. New print magazine from what I saw is lackluster, internet version is shit and amount of plants, nepobabies and internet randos they shill and shitty politics coverage is massive. Though I have only late 90s issues, was great and cutting edge in many aspects and this now is just a massive stain on their legacy. Because of that I hope no one ever revives Sleazenation. It would be even bigger tragedy, in 2022 it would end up being so damn sanitized and hysterical about current thing. It's charm was about being snarky and massive proto-hipsters, trying to be offensive even.
Select was great too, I want to get some issues since scans on the internet are lackluster. But still their content was great. Muzik was another good magazine, though entirely electronic music focused, i'm glad someone uploaded it in entirety.
No. 1674868
>>1674292>>1674343These magazines all seem like they only exist now to please rich fucks & plants themselves. It's made by those plants, catering to plants and consumed by plants. It's literally just an excuse to gather all nepo "artists" & their friends and "give them jobs". Petra Collins as photog., Lotta Volkova as stylist, Holli Smith as hairstylist - i don't even count how many times i've seen these boring names listed out under each i-D article. "Artists" they write about: nepo models, Bella Hadid, that troon from Euphoria, Zendaya, Miley Cyrus & the Gucci collective, Dani Miller, Arrow, Nada Lee Cohen, Jaden Smith, FKA twigs, some black models as a "diversity" and people nobody even fucking knows. all made just so these people have their narc fuel, literally nobody else cares
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Farmers, is that you haha. which one of you is still worrying about Mistress Emilie's financial situation? she's a rich fuck living lavicious life in the center of Manhattan, calm tf down. and she's not gonna tour again anyway, ever.
No. 1675141
>>1674868>"Artists" they write about: nepo models, Bella Hadid, that troon from Euphoria, Zendaya, Miley Cyrus & the Gucci collective, Dani Miller, Arrow, Nadia Lee Cohen, Jaden Smith, FKA twigs, some black models as a "diversity" and people nobody even fucking knowsI love how they feature these mainstream boring nepoplants yet still try to position themselves as alternative and cutting edge, what a fucking farce
>>1674855>just did an extended jam sessionYou say that like it’s a bad thing! I love the extended jam session impromptu set. Maybe not for Animal Collective though, tbf. I DJd with Panda Bear at a pretentious party a few years ago, the records he played were far better than the band’s live set, frankly I’d take obscure Turkish psychedelic bands from the 60s over AC any day
>>1674343How good was Muzik? I love that it’s been uploaded in its entirety. I don’t know why the quality of the Select archives is so rubbish, it’s so disappointing. I actually have pretty much every single issue from 1994 till the curtain call boxed up in storage, I wonder how long it would take me to scan them all
No. 1675469
>>1675426Nadia's a boring nepo rich bitch with a nasty attitude and mediocre art, but at least i can understand simping for her (except for her blob fish lips). Simping for Arrow is lowest of fucking lows
But honestly fuck them all, beauty is not enough for me
No. 1676319
>>1675633it’s all Cindy Sherman reboots, so the market was already established
somehow I can’t be mad, she’s pretty and the images are technically polished so her annoying self-importance is semi-tolerable
dad is in The City or some other lucrative finance thing, is what I have heard
No. 1676549
>>1675422>ugly dudes test out synthesizersThe indie scene in a nutshell, kek
>>1675469>a nasty attitude Sauce? Not doubting it, just curious
No. 1676972
>>1676549another 2 anons mentioned it, i repeated. I honestly don't have a reason to doubt it, considering the circles she runs in.
>>1676319Am i the only one severly unimpressed by Nadia and her inflated lips? Nobody cares that she's pretty. nobody cares how pretty is a cow, everybody shits on pretty cows here either way. Pretty = let's forget everything, ugly = yesss, let's hate this one? not saying Nadia is a huge cow or a very bad person, she isn't even milky. but she's boring as all fuck, and generally seems like one of the ppl i usually dislike. genuinely see no reason to like her, besides "being pretty". you lesbianons are getting blinded by your instincts
No. 1677537
>>1677208>immediate career thanks to daddy & mommy>shitty unoriginal ripoff art>rich LA kid with a personality of a cardboard.these things are also what 99% people in indie thread are exposed/disliked for. you don't have to dislike her, but Nadia is no different from most of the people itt. it's fine if you like her, but using
>b-b-but she's prettyas why she's "likeable" is kinda scrote reasoning.
No. 1677629
>>1677537anon, she said nadia is neither likable nor hateable.
>>1677208 is literally a statement of neutrality kek
No. 1677737
>>1677627>>1660150,
>>1660154"it's me James Ferrano" lol
No. 1677877
>>1677737no i was
>>1677627 and i meant the posts saying ferrano did nothing and labanna has a yuge career sound like him!
No. 1678953
>>1678748They're plants 100%, Dave Grohl shilled them iirc. And when Dave Grohl shills someone, it's usually a plant. we talked about them a little in previous thread. i think they either have influential parents but keep them a secret, or were randomly plucked out by some "indie trend" factory who decided to make them it girls.
at this point, i 100% believe there are industry plant factories for alternative and especially for fucking pop punk. it's like in the 90's every record label people chased after each & every even tangentially grunge related band bc they wanted the next Nirvana.
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For me The Regrettes was the worst band out of these, their "music"genuinely shocked me with its utter shittiness. this is called "punk rock"? Their songs sound like The Veronicas. (that's a typical 2009 scene pop sort of band who toured with Jonas Brothers, to give you an idea.) This band is on Warner and i see they're mainstream in the ways Starcrawler can only dream & seethe about. i didn't know her parents are such influential. Maybe we should take a look at Lydia Night, she looks like a narcissist cow even from afar. they're like Tramp Stamps
No. 1679319
>>1678748it sounds like all the worst qualities of oversaturated hipster hype music in 2011, played through a tinny as fuck car stereo
and i can't believe so many people who literally can't sing get jobs as singers. these people are just talking quietly into a microphone and recording it over their stupid mid-00's karoake
No. 1687397
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Lmao Kelsy Karter deleted every trace of her "punk" career and spergy narcissistic anti- "urban artist" posts on IG and has a "career makeover"… again. she hired some hairy scrotes and now she's going by Kelsy Karter & The Heroines.
nuking all the previous posts and posting a couple new perfectly shows that all of her 139k followers are bought. no comments, no likes on new posts, most i've seen was 2000k likes and 10 comments.
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>>1687397guess because her "punk", then "pop punk" phase didn't work, she's now announcing that "punk is dead" and going for classic hard rock or whatever lol
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whoever is throwing money to fund this "project" is really wasting that cash hard. it's pop punk sellout plant era more than ever but this skinwalker still can't gather genuine fanbase. besides maybe tiktok, where she larps as "messy chick" who walks around with a fag hanging out of her lips all the time
i kind of regret not screenshotting her old IG captions cause it was a peak boomer management like
>>1347767,
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own tour bus but still no fanbase of her own. idk how she fills up the rock venues, the only way i could see this is that she probably plays at all day & night kind of mass festivals
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gotta love it how instead of researching any basic top google results band name she just ordered "hardcore punk" shirt lmao
No. 1687427
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Damn this skinwalker has been around for a while with her poor attempts. i found a bit about her now deleted pre-Kelsy Karter the "hardcore punker" past. she used to be a cheap Lana Del Rey/Amy Winehouse/Marina and the Diamonds skinwalker, and she had a soul/jazz/pop album out in 2014 or 2015. but she;s been trying to make it unsuccessfully since 2012. here's a couple of interviews and pics
>Growing up studying dance, acting and instrumentation throughout her childhood in the Gold Coast, Kelsy Karter eventually relocated to Los Angeles to pursue her music career. After garnishing attention with her 2012 song “The Revolution”, she went on to release her 2013 single “Ghost Town”, produced by The Movement. Karter’s exposure grew even more after performing vocals on Infected Mushroom’s “Now Is Gold”. Her creative and comical dedication tune “Johnny Depp”, released this year displayed her talents as a songwriter.
>Kelsy is based in Beverly Hills and made the life-changing decision to move overseas after graduating from high school. “I have always felt like a bit of an outsider, like I don't want to say I didn't fit in with normalcy, but I always saw something more chaotic for myself. When I was growing up, I went to America a lot and saw people doing what I had always loved doing, and they did it as their life. It was their career. It has always been something I had planned to do. I went over to America just before my 17nth birthday for a dance tour, basically workshops at all the major performing arts centres, and I saw people just doing crazy things with their careers. I went home and said to my Mum: 'That's where I need to be’.https://scenestr.com.au/music/kelsy-karter-is-the-rebel-dollhttps://clichemag.com/music/kelsy-karter-chats-her-ep-kiss-the-boys-and-being-a-rebel/https://essentiallypop.com/epop/2015/01/introducing-kelsy-karter/https://colorising.com/kelsy-karter-interview/ No. 1687428
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>>1687427Amy Winehouse larp
No. 1687884
>>1687538I thought the Regrettes are still around? (unfortunately) Tramp Stamps aren't though. Last time they posted was January, their instagram is filled with odd far east comments and whatnot. Their tiktok is purged. great, can someone expose Starcrawler now?
i sort of wonder if they aren't trying to make a comeback solo. TS singer for example was known to have Lana Del Rey knockoff career in the past similar to Kelsy.
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Lmao searching tramp stamps tag i found this ridiculousness. A new industry plant "plantsplains"* to us why being industry plant is totally a good thing (but they ABSOLUTELY aren't industry plants just saying!!!)
*sorry i couldn't resist temptation
No. 1687893
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>>1687892The band is called Crawlers, they are tiktok friends with Kelsy karter and they went on recent tour with My Chemical Romance, along with Starcrawler and Gayle. i think there's no need for any other proofs they're plants, Gerard loves fake industry bands.
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>>1687893lmao girl you just told on yourself
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>>1687895~we're a working class band~ wow
They have 1 record out, and they are on fucking Polydor. that's the same label that Madonna, Eminem, Black Eyed Peas, Gwen Stefani, Lana Del Rey, Lady Gaga, Selena Gomez, Kendrick Lamar, Maroon 5, Sting and JoJo are on. if pre-covid they had absolutely no fans, then where is this independent career? where is this independent label they were on? lmao
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Not sure if this fits here since I don’t actually know who Nessa Barrett is. Apparently tiktok famous who makes Lana, Melanie derivatives. She seems like such a cow though. With a tranny face to boot.
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>>1689140Canceling show over fighting with a scrote or what lmao
No. 1689325
>>1689140shouldn't this go to tiktok general instead?
No idea who this bitch is, but she looks very much "goth egirl zoomer" style, i thought she'd be copying Melanie Martinez uwu adult diaper style. excusing cancelling with bpd episodes is cringey, talking about your bpd episodes all the time online is even more cringey.
No. 1693890
>>1689140The only milk I have about Nessa Barrett is that Charli D'Amelio's ex boyfriend Chase Hudson cheated on her with Nessa. They stopped being friends for a while but are now friends again.
Does she fit this thread? She's MGK and Olivia Rodrigo adjacent.
>>1689325All of these tiktok musicians copy Melanie's style. Bella Poarch is another one but at least Bella is friends with Melanie so it's more copying by association
No. 1694032
>>1693890>Does she fit this thread? She's MGK and Olivia Rodrigo adjacent.i think she doesn't. MGK/Rodrigo/Williow Smith/pop punk bullshitters all are a different thing to indie cows. iirc we have at least 2 actual pop punk retards threads but on /ot/ might fit there.
That being said, poppunk and indie sometimes cross in a way. we mentioned both Melanie and MGK and Avril in a few posts in previous indie thread, so a few ot posts like that won't hurt but honestly i don't think posting her on a regular here would make sense, bc she doesn't seem that milky. Bella Poarch completely doesn't belong here as well.
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These people just come and go. Remember someone posted that Holly Humbersome got BRIT award? who even listens to that. bc it's all one "tik tok hit wonders", obviously they're plants with huge backing but they disappear soon after cause zoomies have attention span no longer than 3seconds. it's just crazy the speed of how these plants are produced.
Another example would be this Gayle plant with that stupid "ABCDfu" song. she probably has millions of tik tok followers but that's because zoomers follow massively every aethetic emo goth alternate looking people they see. i don't think she has any genuine audience. they try to shill her though, Gayle went on tour with MCR and Starcrawler. all these people, i feel like a perfect summary for them would be Cropp/Forever 21/Hot Topic default TV music bc that's the only place i see this played, those video screens with edgy teen playlists in House or wherever.
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>>1694050>holly humbersomefunny you mentioned her because she put all her olds songs together added 1 or 2 new songs and called it an album kek. she's getting shilled so much on playlists right now, just to have low numbers.
i swear some of these musicians are only called indie because they can't compete with actual pop artists.
No. 1695338
>>1689140Posting in here again because I found some more milk about her. She was on the call her daddy podcast
>She has bpd and adhd>says most of her relationships are based on her hyperfixating on one person because of bpd>has a complicated relationship with her dad but still loves him>was diagnosed with bipolar disorder before bpd because it runs in her family>attempted suicide when she was 14>used to be anachan>says her dad was into music, had a studio in his house and that's how she started making music>says she doesn't ever feel happiness and can't imagine what it feels like, only ever feels sadnessoverall she reminds me of halsey, aren't they both from new jersey kek? the pop punk thread is dead and the nhbd rip offs in this thread.
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Phoebe Bridgers may or may not be engaged. from the guardian:
>“I just don’t think it’s particularly useful for people to see, like, literally you,” he said. “I thought it’s either get off the bus now or stay on it, and I wanted to get off. In ten years I might rue the day I threw out social media, but look, it just is what it is.”>“(Mescal did, however, stay on long enough to exchange charged messages on Twitter and Instagram with musician Phoebe Bridgers; the pair are now engaged.)”>>1694960>writes unimportant navel gazey articles for npr.this seems like the natural end for the riotgirrl movement, they were hipsters before hipsters were thing and the west coast? they never had a chance.
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>>1695338>>1689140wait its that retarded girl from this video. i legit thought it was a bit. but shes really this fucking vapid and im14andthisisdeep…
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Within a year, they have spots at Pitchfork, Riot Fest, WWWY and meet up w Kopmala. Isn’t one of their dads some record executive? I swear a recent Jawbreaker interview let that slip(hence why they also opened for them for several dates)
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>>1696189who are these?
>recent Jawbreaker interview let that slip(hence why they also opened for them for several datesJawbreaker as in THIS Jawbreaker? it's one of my fav bands, it'd be sad if they take up some industry plants. i don't check up on their touring details bc they'll never tour in my country anyway sadly.
No. 1696285
>>1696189One of there dads owns a record label and was able to get them a fender sponsorship before they even put out an EP. One of the girls fathers is literally a Grammy award winning producer, and another father is famous from being a painter/founding an Asian American magazine giant robot or something similar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Linda_LindasBasically within a couple of months they stared playing opening shows for major punk bands around cali, met bikini kill etc. and had a song in a Netflix show all by the end of 2019, started going on tv shows in 2020 before they blew up from a video in 2020 they wrote about racism and within a couple weeks i remember seeing there shirts in hottopic, seeing ads with them etc. Most of the fans Ive seen are just neolib fucks who only remember them off the library video
https://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/niubqq/racist_sexist_boy_rockers_the_linda_lindas_have_a/they also seem to have quite an age difference with one of the girls currently 18 while the youngest is 12
according to their own wiki page the band was founded by the parents
I mean, good for them and I hope they have fun. But anyone thinking this is a genuine band and not the creation of the parents is fooling themselves.
i am not going to lie if this band came out when i was in my tweens/teen years i would have been so jealous, these girls are super fortunate to have these connections omg No. 1698599
>>1697796If i was a 50 year old in a semi-retired famous band with all the money i need, i actually would totally agree to take my friend's kid's high school band on tour without even listeningg to them. Id be like "hey yeah thats a cute idea!"
I just wish more of these nice family friends would crack down on the nepo band putting it in their website bio like"these prodigies have already toured with x and y and are making a huuuge splash on the scene"
No. 1698682
>>1698624girl if what this anon says
>>1697208 is true, that means they're primary to high schoolers. they still have a plenty of time to become pickmes. and they will. Because that's what nepotism and being given everything immediately no questions asked usually does to people, especially in this sort of industry.
They're a new Starcrawler but without being awful brats/attention whores (yet). Pretty sure they'll stay being flogged and promoted as long as they're teens, but once they hit 24+ people will jump onto next "teen stars", probably.
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Been posted in celebricows, fits more here. Julian Casablancas messaging 19yo, and can't say i'm surprised.
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What about this bitch. She's usually butt naked during her shows, yet still a total flop. She has only 9k followers on twitter. Nobody wants to see this shit, not even coomers.
No. 1699843
Any lulzy interviews from sloppy chick?
>>1699837lmao you just cans see these ppl think "how did i even end up here in the first place"
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ewww noo. somehow i believe it wasn't a joke…
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>>1699846>>1699843She does it for attention.
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Found this weird article written by Sloppy Jane chick. Her parents are weird fuckups, probably fucking rich too, this fest somehow screams to me rich ppl behaviour (taking your kid to shady festival where she gets sexually assaulted bc they don't care to keep and eye on her). Wtf is even wrong with her, she says teenage girls shouldn't ever go there cause they will get sexually harassed, but she 100% recommends taking your CHILD there literal paragraph ago? jfc what a dumbfuck, she sounds just like Arrow. literal word vomit but she pretends like she's such feminist and makes a lot of sense
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How about these ugly cringelords. Fucking hell, is there anybody on this earth that even listens to Cumgirl8? That is, beyond Surfbort, Arrow and LA clique orbiters?
>“a sex-positive alien amoeba entity.”
>"model who apprenticed herself to a dressmaker on the Upper East Side"
>Vilim, a model and dressmaker, has her own fashion line of day-glo gender-fluid and body-revealing clothes that’s been featured prominently in Vogue
They're all models turned musicians, of course. I tried to search for any sort of decent pics to post, but i really can't. if you google their name you'll see why. all they post are either ugliest clothes you've ever seen, or their tits, or their hairy regions out.
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>>1700029that's some of the most unattractive shit i've ever seen, wtf are they doing to their pics. idk is one of them trans or just built this way?
No. 1700154
>>1700017i've met girls like this and they seem to be faking this edgy avant-garde shit as cope to debase themselves before anyone else can. like acting crazy and gross as if they rejected love and relationships, because they reeally badly fear being rejected. they're always the first to put other girls down or treat someone shitty for not being "cool enough", or avoiding anyone they meet that is too nerdy or straight-laced. they're also the most desperate and thirsty for normie males' attention.
i don't know, i can't explain how other people think but to me they're just pretending not to want validation that that they're attractive to men, while actually wanting it more than anything else in the world
No. 1700158
>>1699793it's cool that she's not falling for this predatory shit (you can tell he's predatory by the fake uwu i am forever alone softboi shit) and is posting his lame groupie search publically
i like her.
No. 1700166
>>1700034what the fuck is wrong with all of their faces
did they escape from one of those inbred amish incest cults
No. 1700408
>>1699837>>1699829>>1699843There's something super funny about how the majority of the crowd isn't even looking at her and the few that are, are somewhere between laughing and confused.
>>1699898>>1699901>"burning man is an excellent environment for children">admits to being preyed on by predatory men at burning man as a drunk tween>so anyway I was bored of drugs at seventeen…Does she not hear herself?
No. 1700414
>>1700408And yet she thinks it totes help her get attention and new fans, especially males!
>all males on the pic looking away, kinda disgustedwe should look for more interview bullshit from this creature, wonder how she sounds talking live
No. 1700471
>>1699829Oh wow I coudn't bear the public shame of
awkwardly stares into the distance/
looks bemused that people are doing. She has a nice figure but there are more artful ways to be naked on stage than this (skimpy costumes, bodypaint, etc) this is just low effort
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>>1700471Everyone is very fucking engaged
>literally everybody in the audience looks awaylel
No. 1700929
>>1700408that kind of weird second-guessing contradictory talk is really common in people who don't want to think of themselves as a "
victim". it's a stage you stay in before you're really ready to process the fact that you were raped. i feel bad for this chick, hate her dad, and wish she had someone she could really trust. "a grownup you really trust" like mr. rogers used to say instead of "parent" because some people's parents fucking suck ass.
No. 1701133
>>1700577These photos are incredible, even the guys at the far back aren't looking at her. Literally everyone is averting their eyes. I've never seen anything like it kek
I feel like her dad unironically fucked up her psychology by taking her to burning man as a kid
>>1699901 like clearly nobody wants this, it's literally flashing if nobody consents to your nakedness. So maybe all those unconsenting experiences she had with weird drunk/high dudes as a teen gave her warped ideas about boundaries.
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>>1701135These two guys are my favourites
No. 1701263
>>1700929>>1700930I thought of her naked stage nonsense more as her way to be "original" = disgusting and "sexy" and rolling around like a maniac smearing fake blood etc. Just like Cumgirl and Dani Miller and all these other attention whores who think they're most OG altest girls to alt.
I have mixed feelings about her, like she both seems like a usual cringey snowflake and both a woman whose behaviour is sadly obvious effect of her bad experience. Girl for sure was endangered by her fuckup dad festival happenings are imposing on her lack of self now, with all the male gaze thirst and spitting nonsense in article. i wonder if at the festival she also partake in hippie drug practices and listened to some ideological bullshit which influenced her aswell.
No. 1701793
>>1698624>Racist, sexist boy>You are a racist, sexist boy>And you have really dangerous toys>Fake dance, shoot and destroy>You are a racist, sexist boyUnrelated but am I the only person who thinks that these lyrics suck kek, I'm assuming that this was probably written by one of their record producer dads and it's making me kek even harder
>>1701700Idk about all that but she definitely got 'chosen' because she's a conventionally attractive racially ambiguous non-controversial figure, which makes her the perfect product for the zoomer demographic.
No. 1701897
>>1701700I found out about beabadoobee back when she had only two songs out so I think I can provide some context. What people forget is just how important the youtube algorithm is. There was several channels that posted indie songs and her song was posted there where it gained thousands of views. Now I don't think she really blew up in popularity until some soundcloud rapper sampled that song and it went viral. I don't care about her enough to know anything about her label nor how she is promoted to say whether she's being pushed in the industry since like
>>1701793 said she fits perfectly for the demographic but I find the accusations of everyone being a nepobaby ridiculous just because you don't know how they blew up.
No. 1702085
>>1701793>she definitely got 'chosen' because she's a conventionally attractiveTrue, i feel like the only reason she got chosen is because zoomers always follow any asian starbucks girl gone alt pretty girls.
>Idk about all I care. I'm just really done with how 99% of "punk" and people promoted nowadays are always nepotism babies or super rich kids with tv producer/record label/big oil parents. they were always normies who were popular at school, were spoiled by parents and never experienced anything bad, yet but they larp as such punks and broken sad girls uwu. most of them are self-obsesseed pickmes who tihnk they're better than everyone and are huge assholes to other ppl just as a power move, and those who aren't mean they're still usually most fucking transparent, boring people alive. i'm yet to come across ANY nepo baby with good music yet too. these people have absolutely nothing to offer besides maybe meticulously crafted visuals on instagram. i just think and it's awful bc it shows punk/alt music has nothing to do with honesty or openess, and these people are taking someone's places. promote talented people who don't have famous parents at least once, for a change.
No. 1703182
>>1702085I agree with you so much anon. As someone who is a millennial, when you compare the indie/punk/grunge type bands from the 90s and somewhat early 2000s compared to now, most of the musicians back then were just regular people who didn't come from rich or pampered backgrounds. A lot of them were just outcasts who were either poor or working class who found joy in making music and associating with their respective scenes while not trying to be some big superstar.
Compared to now where it seems like every person getting into making this music are just doing it for attention for their Instagram/Tik-Toks and it just feels so shallow and lacks soul. I'm sure there are still some newer bands out today that are in it solely to be creative but they seem far and few between and get overshadowed by the spoiled normies who have rich parents or industry plugs to get discovered.
No. 1703407
>>1702094I don't think it's unreasonable for people to wonder if someone is an industry plant or nepo. It's the certainty some people have that someone is 100% from nepotism despite having no proof and this scrutiny is nearly always directed towards as you said "indie chicks". I know youtube is more of a complex subject because views and ads can be bought but when some obscure album from the 80s can have millions of views because youtube pushes it everywhere, I can believe it's possible for channels who are dedicated to finding and uploading music to be successful occassionally in introducing music to others. I don't really care because either way I still think she eventually sold out to the industry making lifeless 90s imitations. The sampled song was death bed by powfu.
>>1703182Newer bands that are genuine aren't going to be getting famous because rock is not mainstream anymore. It's not an equivalent comparison to compare artists playing polished, manufactured pop punk trying to get their moment of fame by appealing to current mainstream trends to raw bands from the 90s and 00s.
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It's amazing how phoebe bridgers gets shilled as an indie folk artists when she consistently gets collabs with artists more successful than her. pic is SZA's next album tracklist
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Mac Demarco on the Adam Friedland show
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The singer Stephan Sanchez is getting called out by his ex for being a serial cheater.
No. 1723152
>>1723108She apparently inherited this apartment from the grandmother and it's been rent-locked since.
Obviously the rent and living expenses are covered by the parents. Does that make them nepobabies? Yeah because the only reason this situation even exists is because of the parents fame. She needs to stop larping like a normal person. All these girls are the same; the want the 'normal' label so they can post their out-of-touch, quirky lifestyle and avoid any labelling of privilege. I swear calling a Zoomer privileged will unhinge them, they can't handle the idea that maybe they have a one-up over other people. Just accept it.
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This thread is so dead now, can we talk about this cow? i'm checking up on this delusional plant every once in a while and it's just incredible how hard she tries and fails, she's an obvious industry creation but she's got even less fans than Starcrawler. She started out as Lana Del Rey/Marina and the Diamonds skinwalker jazz cross pop singer, then deleted all traces of that and went on to sing some indie pop peans for Harry Styles (and making "career" on fake tattoing his face on her cheek) Then i think Warner Bros finally plucked her and she had a "punk" record out, which she ditched later bc "pop punk is dead and everybody around her is untrue". Now she has yet ANOTHER reboot with new band of carefully styled hairy scrotes, except now she skinwalks Joan Jett and tries hard to be oldschool hard rock band. lol at how carefully stylized these pics are
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continuing, idk how old is she but looks like she's a millenial clutching at straws and desperately trying to come off as zoomer, with a management made entirely of confused old industry fucks. She herself talks like a boomer, her spergouts on how she's not like other girls, how evil ppl at the label want her to show skin but she doesn't, look, she wears a golf for a pic! (and then posts another selfie with tits out) or how she's a troo artists making punk music in the era when "urban artists dominate the radio play", all were so ridiculous & out of touch:
>>1347767,
>>1347804,
>>1347819her tiktok is a whole other dimention of nonsense, it's so painfully visible that she's a girl in her 30's at the very least who pouts her fillered lips to look like Megan Fox, greases her hair, smokes cigarettes and sips green Monster energy to keep up with fellow zoomer kids.
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she started doing these spergouts again
>I've never been handed anything i didn't work for
lol then how come you got a fucking BMG management album contract right after travelling to USA, without playing a single live show? how come you got shilled by Dave Grohl & plant-friendly co?
>I'm not one of those artists who got there because some guy in a suit picked me from a crowd and gave me permission
no, i'm sure you're one of those artists who got picked sitting right in the industry office, bc mom & dad shilled money overseas long enough until you "made it" in one incarnation or the other
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>it's giving junkie theatre
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>>1724557his favorites tab is full of weird fat fetish shit (and vore, i think????)
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>>1724487Well he's not hiding it, quite the opposite even
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So pumped this working class bi queen is single and ready to mingle with the women and femmes– oh wait
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When cows collide. I think Doja Cat has no idea who these two morons are, but alright lol.
No. 1732398
>>1732386for sure update the arrow thread, if not for us then for danny trejo's sake. he's suffering with that for a daughter-in-law.
OT somewhat i work in music journalism and a senior writer at work commented that many of autumn's friends (indie bands popular with gen x and millenials according to her) who shilled starcrawler in 2018 have not mentioned arrow for years and seem less friendly with autumn than in the 2000s, as if she's out of the indie scene.
but i was born in 2002 and don't listen to any of that shit so i could be getting the wrong message from what i've overheard. No. 1745680
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Posted in /ot/ but I’m going repost here. Can you imagine how obnoxious a conversation between them is
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I think we should add Violet Grohl to this list. Her father is mercilessly flogging her around trying to promote her on every occasion, except it's even more embarassing because he isn't just promoting her band, he's PLAYING with her. putting her on vocals with Foo Fighters and all. Iirc they played some punk song (like a true "punk" she is kek) on Saturday Night Live a few years ago, lately she performed at Taylor Hawkins memorial and some christmas shit, i'm sure they had mroe shows too. which i'd be fine wth memorial since she obviously knew Taylor Hawkins, but for the rest? playing with daddy? cringe af, sorry.
I got Dave Grohl's autobiography as a christmas present and decided to give it a chance, if only to read the Nirvana chapters, but its insufferable. Foo Fighters annoyed me for a long while with their shitty dadrock radio music and the overall dumb happiness vibe which i can't relate to (kek i know i'm bitter), but this was even worse. The book immediately threw me off at the start, bc ofc Dave Grohl dedicated pages upon pages to promoting Violet, praising her for how cool she is, how proud he is all that bullshit. i mean cool, he's a proud father, but why did they slap a handful of promotional photos of her from SNL? They're just preparing the ground to shill a next "punk" nepo baby, they prob waited a while cause she was a teen, but now it's gonna start full time. she'll be the next Arrow (they eve follow each other). This girl does nothing except being a famous daughter, but already has 88k on insta and 70k on tiktok just filming herself aimlessly. not very "rockstar" at that, looking like a typical zoomer ngl.
Idk if she's especially annoying or whatever and the nepo path she's going is nothing surprising, but i just think she's pretty plain and boring and talentless just like most of the famous persons children, yes but she's one of the most boring imo. Frances Bean Cobain in her tumblr hype prime seemed boring and talentless to me, but this girl is total mashed potatoes.
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>>1745794also why is she always making this face
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Jfc imagine being such a narcissist to compare yourself to Nirvana (and Phoebe of course, of course cosplays Kurt Cobain) i mean they're surely on very different levels? You can like Nirvana or not, but truth is it was one of the most influencial bands in the world and wrote a lot of good songs. Who are these morons? I'd be fine if some random fans recreated that shoot, but Phoebe Bridgers & her grimy company playing dressups is so damn cringey, because you just KNOW this girl is comparing herself to Kurt Cobain and thinking she's some generational hero and greatest deepest songwriter. she's already insufferable swallowing up all this "Phoebe B is the new Elliot Smith!" shit with that smug ass self-satisfied smirk
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No. 1749132
>>1749121sorry, genuinely not trying to bait. Just my opinion.
>>1749122I'm sorry but she made better music when dating men, she looked like she showered everyday, too. Ever since she started dating that tif and hanging around these clearly mentally unstable group of tifs, fags and various trannies (if you look at their instagrams, its clear.) she looks like she lost all hope.
No. 1749136
>>1749132Sounds like she's going through mental illness troubles and gaining weight/not washing bc of depression. or she just thought fuck this, i'm not gonna live up to expectations. Idk nothing about her or the company surrounding her so idk how big is their role in this.
>I'm sorry but she made better music when dating menyou know that sounds weird right? it's not dating men that made her music "better". it's not gonna hop back when she starts getting dicks again. her writing abilities just dropped now - happens. especially when you're depressed.
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This is the girl she's been allegedly dating in 2018 or 2019, Emily Bannon. she dated her and another guy who sued her for defamation, just a part of the triangle. i don't think there was any love, just the guy's idea n maybe she never really slept with her. Or shes fine with threeway but not any w/w action nor relation. like okay, she's oohh so biiii, but has she dated any other girl? has she ever loved any girl? its really hard to believe she's doing anything other than just chasing dick and trying to milk the only "cool" brownie point she has.
No. 1749938
>>1749124He's 40 something years old, he's a big boy who can take care of himself despite the emo look-after-me image.
>>1749126I think this is the difference between (don't @ me) early and late millennial artists. Angel Olsen is in the same sort of singer-songwriter genre as Phoebe Bridgers and Waxahatchee but she doesn't go OTT on social media or start preaching to her fans about shit. Ditto Sharon Van Etten.
No. 1750994
>>1750294kek in all seriousness i can't see it
nonny. she really loves herself, kurt never seemed that narcissistic to me
also layne staley is the superior dead grunge artist No. 1751102
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>>1751006seconded, Nirvana and Mudhoney. couldn't force myself to like Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, i don't even think of them when people say "grunge".
All that Phoebe's unlikely An Hero talk reminded me when Lana Del Rey was shouting and crying to the journos that she wants to be cool 27 club member and how she wants to die already kek. good for Frances Bean that she laughed her ass off.
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Her model pics if you google "sabrina fuentes model" really fucking suck. like wth is that shit. Old pics obviously,now she's kinda fat.
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Gayle at the grammys tonight, smh
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>>1752460This one in particular, some weird Japanese schoolgirl bondage type pose. Unfortunately this is the easiest way to get scrotes to pay attention to your music, especially the beta pedophile moids who are into indie music.
No. 1763003
>>1761824i see they're going an insta baddie thot way now that she failed at "pop punk" kek, i mean look at her face.
For an industry plant, she fucked up spectacularly. she's maybe about Kelsey Karter level. I remember My Chemical Romance took her on tour, she was playing after Starcrawler.
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I find it kind of funny that the only way for her to get a short interview anywhere was dressing as insta thot.
out of all these losers she seems to be the least interested in any sort of rock music.
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Guys have heard of this? Something is happening with Brody Dalle, her children were apparently recently taken away from her and forced to be with Josh Homme for whatever reason (despite the fact they had restraining order against him?) Wtf?
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can't watch with sound rn but here's additonal video
>joshhomme of qotsahas used his legal team & finances to harass my family, including my minor children. Having a tiny glimpse into what brodydallehas likely experienced, it’s unfathomable. istandwithbrody- let’s come together February 27 in Los Angeles to support her. banreunificationcamps fyp foryoupagehttps://www.tiktok.com/@onemomsbattle/video/7198227885339970859?
No. 1768148
>>1767933>i'm sure she got caught railing adderall at a party once last year Something i've been thinking about as well. she's stupid as fuck that she was talking about switching up into Vyvanse/getting withdrawals on Instagram. idk, maybe, MAYBE she has ADHD, but she was a bad meth addict through her youth so no matter what it would raise suspicions.
Josh Homme, on the other hand. there was some anon on lolcow who claimed he's having meth parties with Jesse Huges, who's a meth dealer that she ws also buying from
No. 1768251
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Uboa, some pornsick TIM who takes his name from the Yume Nikki character, just got signed to Flenser–the label behind Have a Nice Life, Giles Corey, Chat Pile, Planning for Burial, and other edgy indie rock projects.
https://twitter.com/TheFlenser/status/1625510188433154048 No. 1768297
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>>1768258I remember he had a case back in 00's for beating up some guy, and a law-ordered anger management classes. in 2017 he kicked a female photographer in the face- article related lists other incidents as well.
This is so disappointing bc his music is good but he always looked like sort of a dick for no reason. he's alcoholic as well so over time he prob just turned into wife beater. this is super ironic because in 00's he kicked Nick Oliveri out of QOTSA for abusing his girlfriend… kick yourself now, Josh.
No. 1768324
>>1768251no way this person gets anywhere near indie-famous level even, looks so fucking boring and must sound about as equally interesting. should try to befriend Grimes though, seems like her sort of people.
>these cat head thighswhere's the immortal pink cat ear headphones and sailor moon figurines though?
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Chris Nelson - the guy who was suing Phoebe Bridgers - posted these on his instagram story. Tl;dr: Phoebe weasels into relationships and causes mayhem with little remorse?
No. 1769157
>>1769139samefag, ok i'm reading more into these texts and honestly get lost in all that. i'm not sure about this guy an how true he is, but i will say i 100% belive Phoebe Bridgers likes to break marriages, fuck producers for fame and then use them as a free publicity to either shout abuse, or to write songs about their bad relationships like her idol Taylor Swift, no wonger they're touring together. (the guy sounds kind of stupid wasting paragraphs upon paragraphs on definitions and quotes, like it has to do with anything.)
anyways she's definitely a careerist mean bitch and i'm curious about a person who said Phoebe bullied her.
No. 1769194
>>1769093So it seems like she had all these threesomes and poly relationships ongoing (sometimes two separate ones at the same time) mostly involving cheating for one or more parties, but then did a callout post after the fact about this guy Chris since he wasn't doing what she wanted.
It's a particular female personality type I have come across before, they sleep with literally every person in a friendgroup while trying to be the moral arbiter of all things, and bullying anyone who disagrees slightly. Sex is utterly meaningless to them and only used as a way to create power struggles within the group. They are ultimately
toxic and will never change, but if a woman decides to act like this she can take it very far since moids will never turn down free sex, even when they deeply regret it later like this guy.
No. 1769749
>>1769093This guy seems extremely fake and gay and, like many weak men, incapable of taking responsibility for his
own part in all of this. "Muh ebil feminazis could come for yr brother or father next! She made me fuck her for years on end! She wouldn't love me even tho I gave her an expensive guitar!!!1" stfu.
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>>1768251I get strong "used to have a crush on Rose Lalonde" vibes from this image lol
No. 1770532
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Matt Mondanile/Ducktails got kicked out of Real Estate for being a mediocre trust fund manchild hack musician and a weird predatory creep to several girls, then post-cancellation continues to interact with conspicuously young girls on twitter and an NFT that was a front for a right wing pedophile grooming cult
https://www.thefader.com/2017/10/16/matt-mondanile-real-estate-ducktails-7-sexual-abuse-allegationshttps://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/05/05/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-miladys-but-were-afraid-to-ask/ No. 1770543
>>1770532The guy who made these miladys nfts is the catfishing pajeet who before that used an alias "miya" to create a notorious twitter cult called "kaliacc" which was basically faux-RW pseudo-esoteric discord troon groomers (but the main point was grooming underage girls into eating disorders and self harm, and they mostly pretended to be girls to do that, or so I think).
There was a thread with his dox on twitter, I didn't bookmark it or archive but maybe you can find it if you search for "miya miladys" or something like that. Please note that most of these people know about this dox and don't care because it's not a typical NFT collection, but literally a cult using NFTs to identify their members, and they will fanatically defend itself and its leader, like any cult. I think "Miya" now uses an alias "Charlotte Fang" because this ugly indian man is absolutely obsessed with pretending to be a thin pretty east asian k-pop type girl
No. 1772575
>>1745680So are Phoebe and Bo Burnham confirmed dating or they were just pictured together? Because I thought Bo had a long time girlfriend. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Phoebe weaseled her way into another situation with a taken man, or maybe it’s another weird poly situation. I know she’s been photographed before with him and Matty Healy so it doesn’t necessarily mean anything and I hope that’s the case for Lorene’s (Bo’s gf) sake. Imagine dating a guy for 10 years and he dumps you for Phoebe Bridgers of all people.
I hate women like her. She’s pushes a very cool girl nonchalant persona, but no one who is secure in themselves would feel the need to go after men in relationships. Then she acts all shocked and superior in her lyrics when these guys turn out to be emotionally retarded assholes like…what did you expect from a cheater?
No. 1773778
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>>1773743well Grace McKagan has a "punk" band (kek) making "career" thanks to nepotism and mostly getting scrote attention thanks to looks, but that's all i know. Looks like a typical LA model/thot/nepo kid going to Heaven party, sorry. about as punk or rock'n'roll as LA kids, or Beverly Hills wives can be. i think these pics say enough.
i think i've seen somewhere she is/was friends with people like Lily Rose Depp but i could be wrong.
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>>1773778more examples bc her insta is peak boring nepo kid
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this is her sister. sorry but this really amuses me for some reason, i have no milk, gossip or any source to support this but they look like narcs. Grace also buys followers, for 109k it's really weird how all of her posts get 4000k likes and 40 comments average.
No. 1773840
jfc all these nepo kids are terrificly boring. Rock and "punk" music are nepo bands strictly now. Young artists from poor/normal upbringing stand no chance, and those who are good or have decent personality will never make it. it's not about music or artistic videos or whatever. it's who you skinwalk, who you fuck, how much you sit on social media etc. It shouldn't even be innovative, people will eat it up if only you dress up exactly as Courtney Love or Avril Lavigne or Taylor Momsen or whatever. All these cows have something in common. Phoebe Bridgers, Arrow de Wilde, Lauren Tate, Dani Miller, Pale Waves whoever the fuck, they're all attention whores, narcs or BPD sort types clawing for fame. To make a career online you require to be at least a little bit narcissistic or at least engaged enough to attack social media with your pics, jumping on dumb tiktok trends, hashtags etc. Not even mentioning connections. i'd be embarassed and clueless if i was an artist on record label and manager started insisting i need to make a tiktok and try to get on trending tags (and no i'm not a boomer). And no it's not just pop labels, even some indie ones push it as well which is kind of weird.
Also have you noticed how all the zoomer & nepo bands are all female based / female fronted. waiting for new cringey male cow just for the lulz, all that were mentioned so far are long established oldschool cows.
No. 1774152
>>1773886anon remember to type "sage" in Email field when posting, unless you post new milk.
Yep i read about him in books about grunge or something, didn't know he came from seattle punk scene. Back when they had a feud with Nirvana (because Kurt didn't want to play at Axl Rose's birthday party kek) Duff came up drunk trying to knock over the trailer they sat with his baby in, or fight Krist Novoselic but failed, but then 2 years later him and Kurt Cobain had neighbouring seats on a plane and were fine with each other. These seattle bands tend to like him for some reason now tho. I'll just say playing in Guns N Roses maybe paid off financially but he destroyed himself. seems like everybody in GNR became raging alcoholics, probably because they couldn't stand Axl Rose otherwise.
No. 1774230
>>1774152Thank you!!! Im pretty new to the site so i have a hard time trying to navigate through this.
I think he did tried to get back to his roots or have a touch of his hometown when he became friends with almost everyone in the grunge scene.GnR had drug problems too, not surprising considering the LA hair metal scene is full of that (not that grunge isn't any better).
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Maybe it's not exactly fitting, because Taylor Momsen's long graduated from being a cow and if anythin (she has that idk isolated friendly boomer vibe if that makes sense?) Ngl i like how she looks in this shoot and i'm rahter sympathetic towards her nowadays. But THIS clothes collection definitely gave me a good laugh. Especially the beaten to death "Fuck you you fucking fuck" kek. "Grunge" fuck me, this is peak 2013 American Apparel/Brandy Melville shit, except it's idiotically priced. Nobody that actually listens to grunge or punk would allow to buy any piece of that "grunge collection", except maybe for nonsensical tape.
>What’s always stood out to me with Taylor’s style, and also what’s so critical to R13’s ethos generally, is how well she strikes a balance between conflicting looks and ideas: soft and hard, feminine and masculine, grungy and chic,” says Chris Leba, CEO of R13. “The tension between those conflicting ideas turns a relatively simple outfit, like combat boots and a negligee, into an iconic look and you’d have a hard time finding someone who can evoke that tension as effectively and consistently as Taylor can.”
>“Grunge music meets grunge fashion,” the singer wrote on Instagram.
>Depending on who you ask, the items in the collection are not exactly punk rock-priced, with a pair of made-to-order boots retailing around $3,500, a flannel coming in at just under $500, and our personal favorites, a $295 “fck me, I’m in a band,” T-shirt and $85 “fck you” duct tape.
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>>1774540i kind of wondered about digging up her old milk if anyone was interested, if only because it would be sort of nostalgic efagz/perez hilton/2009 shitty media type of memory lane. she's a good example of someone who grew out of it. i feel kinda bad for her considering how badly Arrow skinwalks her now that she abandoned her old style lol. I wonder what she thinks of it, if she even knows.
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>>1775143sage for old milk.
Gossip Girl
>She left Gossip Girl bc she didn't want to act anymore and rather play in the band, but apparently she was sort of kicked out temporarily bc she was rude on the set. She was then written out for multiple episodes before leaving the show altogether.>Tim Gunn said: ""What a diva! She was pathetic, she couldn't remember her lines, and she didn't even have that many. I thought to myself 'why are we all being held hostage by this brat?">annoyed the director and the entire crew, bc she was always on her Blackberrykek that boomer anger
>Had a beef with Leighton Meester, prob because of jealousy. Right at the time she kickstarted TPR Leighton made a song with some shitty pop band. Taylor wanted her music to be played on the show, but CW issued statement "her music wasn't ready" and instead took Leighton's shit Celeb drama
>called Rihanna annoying ("People think pop is rock, and the lines are getting blurred. Now Rihanna’s wearing f*ckin’ leather jackets, and it’s really annoying"), didn't stop her from covering Rihanna& Eminem song Love The Way You Lie>had a fued with Miley Cyrus (interestingl Taylor was in top 3 actresses to be casted as Hannah Montana but obv Miley won): ""I'm not looking to be Miley fking Cyrus. I don't care about the fame. I do it because I love music. I like making records and if people like them, then we'll go along for the ride. I think the Disney bubblegum st that the world is living right now is pathetic. I thought we passed that repression.">Miley fired back saying Taylor obviously wants attention bc she's running around in her underwear>"Taylor is so obviously desperate for fame. I mean, she's traipsing around town in her underwear, or is that for the love of the music too? Miley gets a little risky on stage, but she knows that it's a performance, whereas Taylor doesn't seem to know where to draw the line. It's sad, really.">yeah this happened in 2009/2010 and when you remember what Miley did a few years later… kekBand & other
>started off TPR skinwalking Courtney Love. Asked she said she doesn't want to be Courtney Love, she wants to be Kurt Cobain (yet cut her hairstyle and dressed kinderwhore very accordingly lol)>was said to hang out only with people much older than her>switched her original teen emo soyboy type band members for scrotes 2x older than her. They most probably drunk and did drugs together (she was 16), when asked about drugs or crazy parties they didn't deny>her and Ben were said to be kinda cold during meet & greets>made a scandal joking she fucked a priest and wrote a song about it (Going Down)>said stupid shit like "vibrator is my best friend">That flames & stripping naked on the graveyard” version of Make Me Wanna Die video was legally held unposted for a long time, because she was 16 when it was shot. They made the Chelse Hotel version instead>as underager, she turned besties with porn star Jenna Haze. Photographed herself with and milked her promptly for a long time, did this topless lesbian shoot for FHM mag and had Jenna Haze play topless in her music video>had Jenna Haze simulate orgasm for a single (Follow Me Down), first tried to do it herself but her scrotes laughed at her>had a song (Follow Me Down) about a young girl fucking much older scrote, made retarded romanticizing type comments like: >" I was reading [1955 novel] Lolita at the time. I had watched like every [film] version of Lolita. I was very obsessed with the Lolita story. And that’s kind of the inspiration for “Follow Me Down,” the concept of doing something sexually, that is not necessarily considered appropriate. And reveling in it and getting away with it and enjoying all the naughtiness of it.">made a shitty S&M edge filled song about liking to get hit („So hit me like a man and love me like a woman, Buried inside look me in the eyes, I want it”)>when asked if she's going to donate to Haiti (some earthquake crisis at the time) she responded with: "Um, right now I'm trying to just finish my record and getting through the last season of Gossip Girl for right now. So not so much thinking about that.">instead, started talking about perfume: "I like that the scent is a little bit tougher than a lot of the other Victoria's Secret scents that have been out," she explained. "Ya know, it’s just a little bit more masculine which I like a lot. And the packaging looks really pretty on a vanity I think. And I like the little spray, what’s that called? An atomizer. I like the little atomizer.">stupid quotes about how she’s totally insane "I see myself as totally insane. I’m totally moody. Of course. And I’m totally out of my mind. And I’m always myself.">said she’d be fine with getting shoot for Playboy>used to deny that there’s misogyny in rock>got booed tf out in Scotland because she said Glasgow audience is "the craziest crowd in the whole of England" (kek) right at the start of their show. They stopped responding to her altogether but Taylor didn't even notice she fucked up, she only apologized later on Twitter>CDAN said she went to a party where the second youngest person other than her was 30 and was telling everyone she can't drink because she's on Percocet (she was 15 att)>once ordered the hotel service to equip her hotel room cabinet with alcohol. Hotel service refused because she was only 16 and she threw a tantrum>shot a video at Chelsea Hotel, Chelse Hotel's service remembered it that way: "This video was filmed, at least partially (they had to use another room for the balcony scenes), in Room 822 of the Chelsea Hotel, the same room where Madonna shot her famous Sex book. I actually saw Taylor standing outside the room during a lull in the shooting, though of course I didn’t recognize her at the time. (She was wearing the same funereal black outfit she has on in the video, which is what jogged my memory.) At the time I figured she was just another young, pretty model of the kind who grace our halls for fashion shoots and the like. I did notice that Taylor was looking at me as if she expected me to shriek with delight and run over and ask for her autograph at any moment. And I would have too, obviously, except for the fact that I didn’t know Taylor Momsen from Taylor Swift or even Taylor Meade. It could have been my imagination, but I thought Taylor seemed a bit put out that I didn’t recognize her. "
>in 2012 (as 18yo) she sang a song with Marilyn Manson on tv and toured with him for a while. She snaked around him, and he felt up her tits, kissed and choked her onstage. >clearly looked uncomfortable but acted retarded about it for the edge, for a while she was telling magazines "thanks to this she discovered she loves to be choked" >no idea how she reacted to Marilyn Manson abuse news. there’s one article tilted "Cancelling art would be death of society" but it’s behind a paywall>from another interview, asked about MM/ERW allegations: "Honestly, I’ve been living in such a bubble, so I’ve heard little snippets of things. I’m not informed enough to really speak about what’s happening with him. I’ve been doing this, talking about the album, so I don’t really know what’s going on. Speaking from my experience, I don’t think I’m informed enough to talk about it, but I had a lot of fun on that tour. I’ll stop myself there, because I don’t really have anything to say on that."All of this is dated 2009-2014 at most and it's not that crazy, but she was really tryhard and annoying back in a day. Seems like a typical brat talk of an immature teen and she eventually grew out of the edgelordery proving she's serious about her music. Shame that her music is total utter shit.
I'm just gonna say in retrospect, it's kinda shocking how sexual all her photoshoots were. That 1) she knew very very well how to do various poses like that 2) that the media totally ran with it.
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>>1775406Now milk on her parents, i found some reddit post i found interesting… Her mother apparently used her daughters credit card. But anyway:
>stage parents who pushed her into fame at literal infancy, she started acting in commercials & films at the age of 2>Taylor used to flash her boobs with tape crosses on, one time she flashed when her mother was in the audience>said her parents are totally fine with her wearing slutty clothes and getting naked>apparently went to catholic school(? Not sure) and was raised very very catholic, hence all her wooo satanic anti-church Marilyn Manson tier religious riot phasesBlamed her parents for fucking her up - rightully so i guess, but it was as scandal and she was called ungrateful.
>”'Everyone's like, "Wow, why is she upset, and why is she so miserable about things?" My whole life, I was in and out of school. I didn't have friends. I was working constantly and I didn't have a real life. My parents signed me up with Ford [Modeling] at the age of two. No two-year-old wants to be working, but I had no choice."Her parents felt „horrible”, so she had to clarify in Kerrang
>"I love my mom and dad. Maybe I didn't have the childhood people think you should have, but I still went through the ages," Momsen explains. "I was still a child. Maybe it wasn't a conventional one, but you know… I like where I am now, so it's OK. I think my parents have learned by this point that none of [what they read] is probably true, and words can be put in your mouth."Seems she genuinely hated acting and prob that’s where the whole rebel phase came from aswell… Also according to this post her mother is kinda fucked.
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>>1775410Now more kinda recent-ish milk, expanding on what this user mentions about Chris Cornell conspiracy… so in recent years Taylor Momsen (and the rest of the band) was spiralling on drugs for a long while. She apprently cleaned up for now. But the reason she cited was death of Chris Cornell, and then death of their longtime producer. Taylor is OBSESSED with Chris Cornell, and around 2017 her band toured with Soundgarden. She became good friends with Chris Cornell. And then he died, and Taylor was the last person to talk to/see him alive. She cancelled all TPR tours afterwards and got depressed to the point of suicidal apparently.
There's this reddit post with some shit on Gossip Girl cast (i guess it'sfrom CDAN?) and this one's about Taylor. Ngl i wondered about that before. one more thing, she was DEFINITELY not sober on that tour with Soundgarden. she did drugs back in Light Me Up years and then she had that weird face bloat for a good while. The reaction she got for hs death is kinda sus, it's extreme even for obsessed fangirl… i don't know how true is this might as well be bullshit but can't say people never wondered.
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bonus from the same reddit thread, and i believe it bc it's not the first time something like that was said. I hoped she changed now but i wouldn't be surprised if she's still rude. which would make me lose whatever respect for her.
one more gossipy thing i'll add is that she mayyyyyybe dates a woman now. She and her makeup/assistant seem very close.
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Her mother.
I forgot to add she used to boast about carrying and flicking knives and how she smuggled them onto airplane and then they spilled out and it was ~oh so embarassing!~
Also, she definitely wasn't "aaalways listening to the Beatles and rock" like she likes to claim. Not that it matters, but back in her normie Jenny Humphrey days she talked about listening to The Black Eyed Peas, Avril Lavigne and stuff like that.
No. 1776036
>>1773785>>1773784>>1773778all celeb daughters whose dads fucked 15 year olds look like this
like when i see a nepo girl with this appearance, i am confident her dad is a borderline pedo and she had a confusing time growing up seeing all the pics of him with teen groupies
No. 1776041
>>1776032That's… exactly why i didn't mention the tampon string incident as "milk" at all - because it wasn't her fault. it was the media being obnoxious. I remember that incident, and thought it's so retarded.
I kinda agree, NOW i think her Light Me Up album, image, videos, live videos et cetera are quite enjoyable. More: her first album was her only good album. she was a bratty cringelord, but musically it was her only enjoyable era. she should stop "trying to be Robert Plant" or whatever she said and get back to mall grunge songs again.
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Crawlers rage quitted (for now?), because their US tour got cancelled. It's the same industry plant tiktok band that toured with My Chemical Romance and Starcrawler. A band that was handpicked by Gerard Way suddenly doesn't have funds for US tour.
I wonder if it's the beginning of the end, of big labels cutting up funds/letting go of these new "indie"/"riot grrrl" bands.
No. 1776098
>>1776080>>1776082easy, I looked up this (lukewarm) old shit out of curiosity, not to be offended or to make everyone hate her kek. idk if i agree, i mean she's not a cow, but i can see her old antics being mentioned on celebricows if LC existed at that time. not having her own thread, though. i mean chicks from indie bands get posted here for much less, and she definitely used to have attention seeker/better than you attitude (like some of the cows here). which people tend to forget a whole decade later.
If it was true she fucked CC, it's unfair to the woman he was married to att. Phoebe get shit here for same thing. that being said, nobody knows the truth, so whatever.
>>1776082All fine. Not doubting she was affected by it, but I don't think tampon incident has driven her to her behaviour, she was acting like that before that happened. I think it was mostly bc of her age and parents.
No. 1776155
>>1776152and yet both bands that were on AND journalists act like it's so indie & underground, similarly to Sub Pop. Starcrawler for example triumphed like idiot sover getting on a ""major label"" last year (which hosts local country nobodies only but unrelated), as if Rough Trade was some poor indie diy punk label lol.
RT is still "indie" in social consciousness for some reason.
No. 1776228
>>1776170haha the level of delusion. that would be another thing on the list to discredit Starcrawlers fake career.
I checked just now and Rough Trade still announces themselves as "independent record label"? lol kind of confusing. i knew they were bought out by a major but i thought they're still under BMG.
>In 1982, the retail outlets broke with the A&R and distribution divisions, after a decision to allow the shop staff buy out.[7] The distribution wing found itself overtrading by 1991 and shortages of cash flow led to a filing for bankruptcy. The entire company ended up in receivership.>Rough Trade Records was relaunched in 2000 as an independently owned entity, a partnership between Travis, Jeanette Lee (a former member of Public Image Ltd.), and minority partners Sanctuary Records, as a part of the Zomba Group until 11 June 2002 when BMG bought out this business. Prior to the BMG buyout, Rough Trade Records released the Strokes' debut EP The Modern Age in the spring of 2001.[8] In July 2007 Sanctuary Records then sold Rough Trade to the Beggars Group for £800,000 making Rough Trade independent once again.[9] However, it can be argued that Rough Trade is not truly independent as it is owned by another company. Rough Trade is more accurately a subsidiary[10] that is owed by Beggars Group, which in turn is a privately held company not publicly traded on the stock market.[11] No. 1776569
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wow I assumed the heroin addiction shit was just gossip but look at picrel, that’s fucking tragic. She literally skinwalked herself into a heroin addiction for clout with the rockers and their fans.
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>>1776569i mean… i don't wanna be rude or tell she's ugly or whatever, bc she's not, but i can see drugs taking toll on her. When i googled her a year ago after a couple of years i was shocked tbh, how different she looks even vs 4-5years back. it's not just about different makeup or weight loss. not that it's important but interesting to see someone else noticed, i thought it's just mee seeing things.
No. 1778248
>>1775406Ew, why are all so-called “edgy” women just singing about how much they love being helpless
victims? I know nothing about her because I’m a zoomer and her star died a decade ago, but that Marilyn Manson choking thing made me see her as a lolcow.
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can't really imagine what it would be but is there any weyes blood milk out there? I will forever be heartbroken that she's (at least I think) straight
No. 1778891
>>1778862oh sure, I believe in it. the weather DOES change! cos its literally the weather. It's you people who are
triggered by naturally occurring weather cycles and seasons and love to fall into every scam and hoax that comes your way. "HURR WE CAN STOP MUH WEATHER CHANGING IF U GIVE US MONEY IN MORE TAXES HURRRR DURR"
t. government that really cares about you!
Literally a scam. The definition of one.
>>1778807he's a typical band scrote. loved to hang out and have sex with with teenage fans as a 30+ year old. There was spicy drama some years ago with that art crowd Petra collins and her magazine friends. Tavi Gevinson wrote a whole diary about her fling with Ezra when she was a teen and all the manipulation and games her played with her. she seems like a retard herself so I don't have much sympathy for her. You got played by a scrote for free sex, he wasn't doing some big evil plan. Just typical shit. And she was clout chasing by perseuing him in the first place.
Ezra ended up marrying a slightly older woman and having a child which is kinda based. It should be a lesson that these males are not taking any of these young bitches they sleep with seriously. you mean nothing to them. they are masterbating with your body and when they are ready to settle down they will get a FULLY REALISED WOMAN.
No. 1779142
>>1778891>>1778914I wish Tavi would just #metoo him already instead of writing vague articles about their relationship without naming him. I know she says she has her reasons, but I feel like there is something else going on. Like he has something on her or she just doesn't want to admit she was clout chasing in the first place because it would go against her feminist image.
Also, is he actually married to Rashida Jones? I feel like he just refers to her as his partner or girlfriend. In the previous discussion here, someone mentioned that he cheated on her and must have some arrangement or understanding of an open relationship (?). There seems to be something off about their relationship, and I can't put my finger on it. My best guess is that he is just a fuckboy, and Rashida just wanted a baby and got one out of him. Rashida seems messy too, but she is still way too good for him.
Lastly, I was initially surprised about him hooking up with young girls at first. I figured he would be canceled by now especially after Tavi's stories were published online. I thought he was just a serial monogamist and had long-term girlfriends that seemed pretty normal and chill (I think one ex-girlfriend was VW's manager during the Contra era?). I also heard that he had a thing for ethnic/mixed race Asian girls back in the day.
VW hasn't been good since Rostam left the band. I thought Father of the Bride was mediocre at best and definitely not worth a Grammy.
No. 1779279
>>1779242more on this, she was asked about the choking incident in 2021 but this interview is behind paywall so i can't check, but from reddit:
>Taylor Momsen said in a recent Telegraph interview on February 12 2021, that the controversial performance she did in 2012 with Marilyn Manson was entirely consensual. She went on to say he never physically or sexually abused her. In her own words she said: "That was entertainment. Music and sexuality go hand in hand and you can't judge a performance like it's reality. Cancelling art would be the death of society.">Eddie trunk ask her about this show and she said he never badly threated her.She absolutely looks fucking uncomfortable in that video and i don't think it was planned. Normally i'd agree with her stance but not entirely. What if he suddenly hit you in the face full force onstage? would it be still consensual S&M entertainment that goes with music? Absolutely disappointed in Taylor Momsen now and makes me rethink saying that she's not a cow.
No. 1779415
>>1779279i'm of the stance that she's a
victim of the industry, and that manson somehow convinced her that the choking was fine, but it's like she still hasn't grown into realizing this shit isn't okay, as if she still idolizes the worst parts of the rock and roll scene. saying this as someone who enjoyed tpr's music (although i found her image concerning even then). i don't think she's necessarily a full blown cow but lacks the charisma and presence that some of her same age peers/ex costars have, even on social media she posts like a boomer. like trying to be edgy is all she knows how to do. had she had any semblance of a normal life or made normal friends instead of hanging around much older scrotes i'd like to think she would turn out less fucked up and more aware of how concerning this all seems to everyone on the outside.
No. 1779437
>>1779415yep you're probably right. she was a child growing up in the industry so who knows what happened to her before. it's sad she idolizes all these men who slept with teens and whatnot. i mean, she's hollywood product, i didn't expect her to turn out normal especially when you have parents who profit on you since you're 2yo, but i really expected she'd come to some conclusions now that she's 30. it's funny that she said she's cringing at her 16yo look choices, but doesn't cringe at that Manson worship which imo was infinitely more embarassing than stripper shoes. but oh well
>even on social media she posts like a boomer. kek i had the same comparison in mind. idk how tf it turned out, from edgelord angsty teen she went kinda boomer, i can't even explain how.
No. 1779449
>>1779279She definitely looks uncomfortable with that performance but you can easily tell his grip was not tight and that looks like a very tame play choke. The way you nonas described it I was concerned and literally thought he grabbed her by the neck and choke slammed or some shit but that just looks like a silly mime to me. He is still an ugly disgusting
abusive piece of shit though.
No. 1779485
>>1779437maybe it's a stretch but this is what i'm thinking: that it may be largely due to the people she's still surrounded with and whatever environment and headspace she's in, she's too deep into it to see any reason to break out of it and i don't think she pays that much attention to what people say on social media or their criticisms either, instead thriving off on the idea of her seeming edgy. she sort of grew out of the teen angst but still has a bit of the tryhard edginess, i feel like. i don't think a healthy mindset can come out of what she's grown up with and is still being influenced by. she doesn't really seem to get called out or is shown concern by fans, which isn't that large of a group but the vocal amount she does have tend to idolize her (or in the case of moids, sexualizing too) just as much as she does the lifestyle she's trying to emulate. and because they don't have mainstream fame, people don't really pay attention to her or tpr.
tbh i don't mind the boomer posting kek. but i feel like that's also a result of being around a bunch of older men who are out of touch.
i just feel sorry for her, for the most part. to me it seems like she's too influenced by all this shit even at 30.
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>>1779451Ayrt, yeah i see now that shes lost a lot of weight since whenever this was taken, and maybe she just aged that way. As for drug use she confirmed she was using consistently before new album
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also unrelated to previous discussion but good for her for ditching these rough barbaric sharpie-penciled black eyebrows. racoon can stay, just never bring this combination back
No. 1779520
>>1779485that's possible. i was always sort of irritated that she said male voices are better than female, or idk, something like "its not that i don't like women just all the best songs i listen to were written by men" or what. i can't really find exact quote anymore. Or "no no i'm not Courtney Love i wanna be Robert Plant, i think i look more like Robert Plant that Courtney Love right guy? right?" girls stop
and yeah she doesn't seem to have that much of fans anymore. i mean yep she always has #1 hits on rock Billboard and she's well known, but… i'll be honest her fanbase was larger in the beginning, then diminished ad i think it'll never recover to what it was. I remember all the Momsen headlines, fansites, fangroups etc. now i can find none. She claimed she's embarassed of that time a few years back, but currently she posts quite a lot of old pics, started wearing ugly night slips again and even said she wanted "DBR&R" to be like "Light Me Up" (which it isn't). i feel like she wishes it was like it was then again, hence slowly introducing some sort of edgy shit again but not fully either so it's not working much imo.
but still i look at her way more sympathetic than i did before tbh
No. 1779559
>>1779520yeah i agree, she's definitely said some questionable stuff and a lot of what she does or says i don't agree with, although to me it looked like many of those kinds of quotes came from a place of ignorance or merely trying to rile people up. among all the celebrities that can be deemed pc/woke/socially aware (or attempting to be), i don't think she can be put into that category. and i think the quote, i'm not sure if i'm right at all but it remember it being more that she looked up more to kurt cobain than courtney love and was trying to be more nirvana than hole? or something like that. and courtney didn't like that she said that. but i'll have to look further into it. i'm pretty sure the two women were being compared to each other too so that didn't help.
i agree that dbr&r is definitely not like light me up. i think i might have grown out of liking them but i didn't like this album as much aside from two songs, whereas the last album who you selling for grew on me after a few years. although i've felt that tpr lyrics have always been somewhat weak and i think that contributed to me losing interest
unfortunately i feel like most of the schticks she's been trying so far still won't earn the band any significant level of fame so it would make sense if she's yearning for the old days. like i said it doesn't seem like she has as much charisma as other celebrities her age and honestly comes off a little prickly at times, her image isn't going to appeal to the general public. i do wonder that if there's some sort of hopefully better change they might finally get more recognition.
No. 1779612
>>1779559i will reply in parts because i want to add specific pics and videos to my post
> i think the quote (…) being more that she looked up more to kurt cobain than courtney love Yea she said that, but in relation to a different question. One you mentioned, "i don't wanna be Courtney Love, i wanna be Kurt Cobain", the one about men with better songs/voices, and one more. Like there were at least 3 different quotes bc she was asked this often, and whenever asked for female influences she snapped it back onto male bands and wanting to be Robert plant/Jimmy Page etc.
I googled a bit and even found that video where they talk about Courtney and when she says "i think i look more like Robert Plant" they go like "mhm ok Tay", lmao. (btw if you want to listen, start at 1:34 so you can hear her band going on how "Taylor's been writing & searching for the right band for years and years and years", kek. she was literally 15 when she went to the studio, what years.)
i mean sure, there's loads of male bands undisputably better than Courtney (lol), but i thought it's stupid she can't just reply for once and mention a female artists that she likes. idk maybe she changed her view now, like she admitted she sees the misogyny in rock now vs what she said as a teen.
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>>1779612continuing, she copied Cherie Currie and was lucky enough to build up a somewhat more personal trademark/recognizable style over time (like, this "expensive stripper + panda eyes" is instantly associated with Taylor Momsen even now, and she's directly being skinwalked by idiots like Arrow). so she managed to work it into "her" style. But truth be told, Courney Love comparisons weren't baseless, because in the very beginning she definitely ripped her off. before LMP she toured with different band & different songs which float in the web as unreleased studio and live pieces. guess she realized quickly this won't pay off but "CLove influence" theme still lingered after her
No. 1779631
>>1779618(cont.) for me Going To Hell is what grew on me, Light Me Up i like in its entirety because it's more punk/grunge inspired, even when the outcome is sugarpop rock. And they had good hit-like songs that are catchy, but later on they completely lost the ability to write anything that's not some weak "i slap on some modern rock melody and pray it's enough" song no 171727. (Death by RNR, And So It Went, Witches Burn etc.) i can't stand 3rd album besides a few songs, too much "we're so mature this time, even bluesy now" vibe. it falls so flat with these childish lyrics. (and that odd ugly scribble drawing as cover…) Some of her lyrics are repetitive or lead nowhere like Rock and Roll HEaven or And so it went. some random children start a riot and then… what? that is that? eh.
i feel like they should revisit the earlier songs and maybe even unreleased demos to gt inspired, but i doubt they will. "Heart" could be a nice single
No. 1779719
>>1779612thanks for sources, i wasn't 100% sure myself and it's nice having a level headed conversation with someone who knows about taylor.
>she admitted she sees the misogyny in rock now vs what she said as a teen.it's good that she realizes that so at least that's a start i think. but i agree i wish she said more about any female singers she might look up to as well. at least she seems to get along with some, i've noticed with lzzy hale and i can't remember any others but i think there were a handful.
>>1779618oh yeah, i did somewhat agree with the comparisons tbh. i feel she's been inspired by many who were significant figures in rock but looked more towards the males to be influenced by instead of giving more kudos to the women who would have been more relatable to her.
>>1779631i'm the same with going to hell and light me up. the hit me like a man ep had a good sound as well imo. i felt the same way with who you selling for at the time of its release but it somehow grew on me after a long time, probably because i mellowed out a bit more myself, although i can also see why interest dropped. the lyrics aren't the best either imo. i feel like around that time or after they kind of lost track. it's like they don't really have an aim in mind except to release whatever music they can come up with and while that's fine it feels directionless.
>later on they completely lost the ability to write anything that's not some weak "i slap on some modern rock melody and pray it's enough" song no 171727. (Death by RNR, And So It Went, Witches Burn etc.)i agree with this too. they were okay, but i couldn't bring myself to like them that much.
No. 1780295
>>1779719i'm pretty sure she must've looked up to Debbie Harry as well.
she's friends with Lzzy Hale, Amy Lee and i think In This Moment chick maybe. that's all cool, Halestorm and ITM are really fucking shitty bands tho. TPR definitely beat them even with their weakest albums. interestingly, i've first seen Lizzy Hale in a 2003 documentary about Avril Lavigne, random. she went on and on how Avril is great, and was already listed as Halestorm singer. weird how long they've been around until they had any success.
i think Under The Water is veyr good. wonder about that text though, what influeced it
No. 1780654
>>1780295oh yes, debbie harry, i think i remember an old photo of her being posted to i think taylor's personal page? it struck me how similar taylor looked to how debbie appeared in that specific photo. i'd dig it up but i think it was years ago and will be buried by now. and i'm not 100% sure on this but i think they might have met at least once.
funny we should mention halestorm, risking going a bit off topic here but i remember liking them for a super brief period when i was a teen, i do think they have a very generic sound though. i liked their first couple of albums at the time but i quickly lost interest, they have quite a manufactured feel i can't really describe better or put my finger on, stronger vibe of that from them than tpr. i know there are other people that don't seem to like halestorm or lzzy but i don't actually know the milk on them or anything because i was only into them for a year or so. they've definitely been around for a long time but i think it took them quite a while to become in any way recognizable.
back to tpr yeah under the water was nice. the song cold blooded as well. it's interesting i feel that their older songs were a little better. some of the messages and content i don't really agree with but they're somewhat more catchy than the recent stuff.
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>>1780654this one? btw i guess she met Debbie harry, when you google their names both turns out they had a lot of photos together.
i think Halestorm was mentioned in rock celebricows thread but i don't remember. anyways i think maybe we could revive that one, bc one of Manson's accusers Ashley Morgan Smithline suddenly said she wasn't abused, she said so bc Evan Rachel Wood "manipulated her" to do it. this doesn't look good, if it goes like this people are gonna forgive AND apolgize to this fatty…
No. 1781578
>>1781223yes i agree, a rock celebricows thread would be good, although i'm not sure whether it should be revived or if we should have a new one started. i heard of that news too, and it's worrying. would be a good place to discuss this kind of stuff. i definitely believe manson is an abuser.
also taking this as an opportunity to bump as a lot of years-old threads were necro'd.
No. 1781742
>>1781578you mean starting a new rockstar thread or Manson thread? starting a new thread for Manson is a no-no though, apparently. anons wanted and a new thread was made a few weeks ago and farmhands immediately nuked it. Manson postin wasn't banned on rock celebricows though so i assume it'd be ok?
i sort of wish rockcows were on /snow like indie instead of /ot, because it always gets drowned out in vent threads and whatnot even if its bumped. so that's why could be remade. i don't know how much posts are already in rock thread. if we decide to continue old /ot one, you anons will just have to remember to check it, because it 100% will get lost on back number pages lol
>>>ot/res/436372 No. 1786455
>>1780295>ITM is a shitty bandIs it bad that I actually liked them when they first came out? lol Like I'm talking the Beautiful Tragedy era. I was in high school when it came out and I actually remember liking the album. Their follow up album was somewhat decent but not as good as the first inmo and then I fell off the radar with them only to rediscover them in the 2010s and I was not digging their sound at all, sounded very generic and I felt like Maria was trying too hard with the whole costume thing.
>>1780654>I was briefly into HalestormI was as well but it's funny because when I was somewhat into them, that was back in 2005 when they were an unknown band. If I remember correctly, they became a more well-known band n 2009/2010.
But yeah they have a very generic sound and that is what stopped me from getting into them fully.
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I hope this is okay to post about in this thread even if it's different from the usual indie band drama being discussed here. I'm just curious about other people's thoughts on the whole Bluesfest situation with Sticky Fingers. This article is pretty clearly in favor of Sticky Fingers but I do think it sums up the timeline of events well:
https://www.bluesfest.com.au/between-rock-and-a-safe-space/It's hard to summarize for this post and honestly I'd prefer opinions from people who have read into the drama because I'm seeing so many braindead takes on both sides, I just want a reasonable discussion.
On the one hand it's always difficult to believe an alcoholic mentally ill moid is genuinely capable of sobering up and changing for the better, I think he's been diagnosed with BPD and he's been institutionalized at least once for self harm since the band returned from hiatus. On the other hand some of his accusers are very cowish and the actual accusations are so vague and buzzwordy that it's really hard to take them seriously at all. There's basically no concrete proof in support of either side, witnesses contradict the stories of the accusers but all the claims of Dylan's charitable deeds to make up for his past behavior are similarly hard to verify, it's pretty much all gossip.
I don't know, the whole situation just feels bad. Dylan seems like an unstable sperg but hearing him talk about how much it fucked him up to be accused of being every kind of -phobe imaginable when he's Maori and the son of lesbian mothers seemed genuine. It's also just weird how relentless and vitriolic the backlash has continued to be even though his last accusation was years ago now, it makes me wonder if there really is worse shit he's done behind the scenes that no one wants to provide specifics of for some reason, or if there's some interpersonal/band politics drama going on. Or maybe people just see a callout and mindlessly regurgitate it because they don't ever bother to read up on the situation and judge whether the accusations have merit. Any thoughts?
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Mylets Henry Kohen accuses Cathy Pellow of Sargent House of being
abusive towards artists and employees and ignoring sexual assault accusations
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/news/44932/Sargent-House-allegations/ No. 1793979
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>>1793977>>1793978And Lingua Ignota seems to be backing this up
No. 1794081
>>1793979>i am not going to go into detail aboutn my experience butwhy though? maybe that's what that one did to her: convincing Lingua that her relationship wasn't
abusive and her monster rapist scrote ex was awesome dude
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Gonna sage because the milk is dry at this point but the revival of the Alice Glass thread brought it back to my memory. So back in 2021 Mr. Kitty (Forrest Avery Carney / Forrest Lemaire / Echo Strobe) from Austin Texas was outed sexting a 15 year old while he was 29 and married, there wasn't a lot of press back then (maybe 3 articles max, and 2 of them were in spanish). As soon as the news hit he went full schizo and wiped his social media accounts clean (only conveniently leaving retweeted tweets by Alice Glass denouncing abusers). I was there when he did an hour long instagram live where he looked sweaty, bloated, crying and shaking, babbling that he "made a mistake" and that he is getting help with a psychotherapist who told him he is in the "autism spectrum" (which is absolute bullshit, Mr. Kitty / Forrest Avery Carney / Forrest Lemaire / Echo Strobe from Austin Texas has always been open about being bipolar so this autism claim is extremely convenient). The whole live was an absolute mess, looking back I wish I had saved it because is the most damming evidence of his delusion, he didn't explicity admit to WHAT he did but he did admit he did SOMETHING, also mentioned that his mother and husband were there to support him kek. After that fiasco he went full entitled faggot and began tweeting "fuck the haters" and "well how can people say I'm a bad person when I paid in full for my friends transition" for virtue signal and I guess to make himself feel better? (those tweets are were deleted if someone can dig them back up it would be hilarious). Now that he has moved into tiktok and I've noticed his popularity grow very fast. I wonder if Mr. Kitty / Forrest Avery Carney / Forrest Lemaire / Echo Strobe from Austin Texas will use this new popularity to gain access to more underage fans.
on a personal note all these zoomer who are quick to denounce and cancel people over tranny shit proudly blast music by ethan from crystal castles and mr. kitty, both known pedosNews article link:
https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2021-07-08/after-dark-singer-mr-kitty-exchanged-explicit-messages-with-underage-fan/The reddit combo link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalcastles/comments/oa7li7/the_big_difference_between_the_crystal_castles/His socials link:
https://ffm.bio/mrkittydmAll this info is on public domain so don't come at me with doxxing conspiracies kek
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Still can't get over the fact that this dick flashing guy is Sarah Bonito's (of Kero Kero Bonito) boyfriend