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A thread for both older and newer cows from indie bands including indie punk rock, alternative rock, grunge and so on, who do stupid things but don't deserve their separate threads. That refers to singers and musicians with unhealthy need of attention, claiming to be "punk" and independent despite being ex models or actors and coming from priviledged backgrounds, guilty of using nepotism to further their careers, reworking old genres, copying older bands or characterized by rude and nonsensical behaviour. Examples of indie cows or cows in the making:
Previous thread milk & discussion:
>Dani Miller poverty larping >>1283783>Kim Gordon being an NLOG who wrote a book to bitch about Thurston, reveal intimate details of their divorce, flex all the famous people she knew and fucked and how fucking ~artistic~ she is >>1279833, >>1279885, >>1279902>Sonic Youth behaving like total idiots and posers, anon posts video of them bullying Narwuard, destroying a gift he bought them. A bunch of 40 year old manchildren ganged up on him like a buch of primary schoolers >>1285799>pretentious (and bad) cover of Aneurysm by Kim Gordon on Nirvana’s RnR Hall Of Fame live >>1453639, Kim lets us know how „punk” others said she is >Kim Gordon talking shit about women that she’s jealous of >>1453837, >Kim’s awful „clothing collection” >>1463224>1975 gets in trouble for ignoring grooming allegations about their friend >>1282004>Plant band Pale Waves changes from hottopic 80’s goth to 00’s pop punk. instead of skinwalking The Cure they LARP as Avril Lavigne and her band now >>1279871>Insider milk on Pale Waves band. Heather Gracie Barons & drummer were mean backstabber cloutchasing bitches and social ladder climbers >>1282004 Didn’t credit their ex guitarist for writing their first hit song and kicked him out of the band >>1282268, >>1282297, >>1282325 >HGB used to have basic girl youtube with Taylor Swift covers >>1282335>A lot of milk on Yoni Wolf from WHY >>1284838>Voina band throws cats at McDonald workers and calls it „art performance” >>1280444 Nadia from Pussy Riot does „art performance” (read: gets fucked by scrawny ugly men in a public museum orgy. vomit>Phoebe Bridgers dates her childhood idol Conor Oberst and does embarassing memes of him >>1285030>Phoebe flaunts bisexuality for cool points >>1285041, >>1389964, >>1389966, >>1390120>Phoebe goes to Ireland for a few days just to fuck Paul Mescal >>1285303>An angry whiteknight, presumably Phoebe Bridgers herself, comes to thread to fight >>1286003, >>1286031>Phoebe Bridgers bullshitting about having ADD >>1286868>Phoebe lies about growing up poor >>1286868, >>1287259, actually grew up in a huge mansion with real estate agent mommy and TV producer daddy>anon says Phoebe doesn’t pay her interns >>1289628>Will Toledo is a furry >>1287660, >>1287926>various band milk >>1289258, >>1289613>Sabrina of Pretty Sick has super rich CEO daddy but used to pretend she’s poor >>1291150, >>1291362 >Sabrina cringiness… i don even know what to say >>1383151 wears around cum & blood necklace >>1386849>Phoebe gets sued for defamation by one of the countless producer scrotes she dated, this time one she was in polyamorous thing with >>1337421, >>1338890, >>1337478, >>1338898>Phoebe cringeposting bout her plant bestie Billie Eilish >>1340509>Mitski underpays her band >>1291374>Chelsea Wolfe turns out to be a plant >>1339007>vintage milk on majorly forgotten but once milky cow Inger Lorre of The Nymphs >>1340998, >>1341001, >>1341034, >>1341261>Amy Taylor of Amyl & Sniffers and Miley Cyrus beef >>1344516, >>1345256, >Kelsy Karter milk: ridiculous industry plant insta thot type skinwalking Megan Fox and LARPing as a „punk rocker” >>1347466, >>1347767, >>1347804, >>1347819, previously „famous” for fake prank-tattoing Harry Styles on her cheek >>1347912 and writing thirst trap songs about wanting to fuck him >>1347911 gets pushed by plant-shiller Dave Grohl >>1348487, >>1349231, but still fuck knows who is she >Phoebe as „weed queen uwu 420” invites fans to record themselves smoking pot for a contest, which is to recreate Phoebe’s music video, which shows her smoking pot >>1327074>Snail Mail allegedly calls Phoebe Bridgers out on fake bipolar girl vibes >>1389522, related NLOGerry >>1389964, >>1389966, >>1390120>more from Snail Mail >>1390437 everybody thinks she means Phoebe>Phoebe makes aa record label that pretty much promotes nonbies, themlets and trans cringelords exclusively, they/them Scruffpuppy typed for biggest „star” >>1312976, >Scruffpuppy gets cancelled before he even happens >>1390222, >>1390225, >>1390231, >>1390234, >>1390234, for a lot of awful shit he did to his girlfriend. Phoebe’s label drops him >>1390237>Old ass 90’s milk on Veruca Salt, especially Louise Post who likes to seethe, throw tantrums and write songs about Dave Grohl >>1336935, >>1337063, >>1337379, >Absolutely disgusting news on Alexis Marshall abusing Lingua Ignota to the point of damaging her spine during sex >>1390342, >>1390343, >>1391301, >>1393410>some Brazilian band milk >>1393458>new plant Holly Humbersome gets BRIT award, except nobody knows wtf is she >>1438150, >>1438208, >>1438241>A total nobody Demi Demitro of The Velveteers selfposts in the thread whiteknighting other cows >>1450643, >>1451212, anons correctly guess her identity. >Demi Demitro turns out to be next Courtney Love skinwalker and a rich nepotism baby/ indie plant too >>1451377, >>1451492, >>1451580, >>1451592, but pretends to be uwu poor baby >>1451576 (like most nepotism brats ITT)>St Vincent being industry plant >>1451511, >>1453601 makes pretentious concept album on which she pretty much makes excuses for her rich daddy doing his jail time for a whitecollar crime >>1453601>Phoebe Bridgers gets Billboard award for nothing >>1457408>Ridiculous emo milk >>1457480, >>1457996, >>1458748>Dani Miller milks her friend’s death, makes multiple tiktoks of her crying from every angle, perfectly executed makeup on, full stylized, uncomfortable choker e-girl styling still on, adding Euphoria theme as soundtrack >>1461306>Alice Glass has a traumacore cockroach Nicole Dollanganger phase >>1468143, >>1468149>Donita Sparks loses self-respect, shills Arrow De Wilde and makes a cringey karaoke video >>1483868, >>1483928>Conor Oberst gets gravelly offended cause some teen insulted his skate shoes >>1499353>Kelsy Karter says goodbye to pop-punk, right after shitting out a pop-punk album, because suddenly „she just doesn’t buy it” >>1500717>Kelsy skinwalks Brody Dalle and goes on „Pink, Kink and Punk Tour” >>1500721, >>1500724, >>1500726>some dumb Ogbert The Nerd trans whining >>1505029, >>1505107>Dani Miller walks round with Jared Leto’s prosthetic head and professes love to her joker teen-groomer husbando >>1509661>Dani obsessing over her muahaha i’m so cool guys Jimmy Kimmel stoner cameo before she was „famous” >>1509689>Milk on Lauren Tate from Hands Off Gretel: girl has a rich stage mom who pushed her hard to attend talent shows and become famous. Her mother also happens to be her manager, photographer, PR and promoter >>1509760, >>1510058>Lauren being Hole, Jack Off Jill, Brody Dalle and Melanie Martinez skinwalker >>1510774 , >>1509760, >>1509850, >>1509876, >>1509897, >>1510766>Lauren Tate begging Robert Plant and Slash for a shoutout (what a cringetard) >>1510602>Lauren allegedly bullies her bandmates >>1510782, >>1510792>Lauren’s hate accounts start spilling truth about her & her parents >>1510795>Lauren claims she’s taking legal action against hate accounts that bully her for 5 years and „create fabricated stories on her”. Hate accounts claim Lauren Tate is creating fake accounts to harass others and even makes fake hater accounts to hate on her own self just to throw pity party >>1510795, >>1510796, >>1510808>Kat Bjelland skinwalker Arta Saleri of Quinn The Brain who also rips off Babes in Toyland music in every way >>1510058, >>1510675, >>1510807, >>1510858, >>1510679, >>1510822, >Bad Courtney Love/Babes in Toyland skinwalker/babydoll aliexpress rock band Margaritas Podridas >>1510538, >>1510541, >>1510553, >>1510557 exists purely to photograph themselves with Hole/Nirvana merch, visit all places related to Nirvana and take photos with Kurt’s toilet >>1510707, >>1510709>Margaritas Podridas covering their sexual assaulter drummer’s ass >>1510538, >>1510645, >>1510673>Milk on Margaritas Podridas/Senor Kino members. Rich parents fund all their career expecting it to be a good investment, and even bought them Coachella spot >>1510574, >>1510606, >>1510633>Margaritas Podridas ripping off posters, photoshoots, album covers and music videos of Hole and Babes in Toyland >>1518507, >>1518511, >>1518514>Margaritas sounds worse than Starcrawler, which is an achievement >>1554202>New industry plants, Wet Leg >>1512164, >>1512228, >>1512233>The truth about Lori Barbero of Babes in Toyland. She’s a cruel, vile cunt who pushed Kat Bjelland BACK into addiction INTENTIONALLY, then kept laughing at her (it resulted in Kat having end stage of liver failure today). She behaves oddly possesive of Babes in Toyland and in fact she’s the one ruling the band. She’s a bitch basically to everyone and she’s treated Maureen, and especially Kat like shit for years, because she hates junkies, even though she’s a raging alcoholic and psychedelics user herself >>1514226, >>1514236, >>1514239, >>1514241, >>1514246, >>1514257, >>1514280, >>1514291, >>1514292, >>1514381, >>1514487, >>1514609, >>1514610>Courtney Love being a bitch to Kat Bjelland and laughing at her financial situation >>1514720, >>1514725> John Maus randomly texting and asking a fan to please stop being a Satanist. >>1516118, >>1516119>MrBufferBieber guy who’s crazy in love with Hayley Williams, makes tons of videos of him kissing his Hayley Williams shirt >>1559345 implies he’s going to be on Love Island, anons hopeful for milk>Sunflower Bean milk, drummer transforms himself into uwu little girl >>1565652, >>1567100, >>1567103>Kelly Mayo skinwalks Exene Cervenka >>1600587>pop punk being alive and well! Here’s current very creative hit: Twinkle Twinkle Little Bitch >>1604315, >>1604486>info on Gucci socialite Zumi Rosół >>1606226>anons place bets Toledo is going to troon out >>1610223>Davey Havoc/AFI milk >>1610544>honourable post! Let’s het FREAKY NOW >>1605792Links:
https://www.instagram.com/phoebebridgers/https://twitter.com/phoebe_bridgershttps://www.instagram.com/alienzarereal/https://www.instagram.com/therealsurfbort/https://www.instagram.com/sickysab/https://www.instagram.com/kelsykarter/https://www.instagram.com/heatherbarongracie/https://www.instagram.com/skatingpolly/https://www.instagram.com/kellipolly/https://www.instagram.com/cherryglazerr/https://www.instagram.com/yostazyo/https://www.instagram.com/gracemckagan/https://www.instagram.com/choirofthemind/ No. 1611546
Forgot to post 1st thread link
Indie Band Cows General #1 :
>>>/snow/1279186>>>/snow/1279186 No. 1613350
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Nadia Lee Cohen deserves her own thread, what a cow
No. 1613627
>>1613350please, please post the milk. I couldn't find anything on her. I'm seeing her because she's a bestie with Arrow, Dani and co.
Idk how much milk there is on her if she deserves her own thread, but please post what you have. i KNEW she's a vain bitch. does she have rich parents?
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>>1614567Please tell us more.
- more on how it was when you met her?
- more on who exactly is her father please. i searched on her parents but found nothing
Her "art" is really shit, i'm glad someone shares my opinion. Typical "uh let's photograph white trailer trash and bimbofication tropes ironic bimbos cross old hollywood and throw ugliness and nudity". Parker Day is another example of that, her photos are perhaps even worse. yeah, photograph kitch and call yourself an artist, as if it hasn't been done million times before, better than you.
But it's the problem with ALL the nepo kids "artists" from LA, who are in fact trust funds who think they're sooo original because they "ironically" portray white trash and bimbos.
Nadia has her own exhibition now, barf. already been posted in Arrow thread before, but it's arguably one of her worst photos
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samefag, i tried to pick the worst pics from Nadia Lee, but i just can't. ALL of them are shitty as hell, all her instagram is shit.
guess having rich daddy and kissing Danny Trejo for a photo is enough to be considered an "artist"
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>>1614994>she puts out work besides being pretty enough to coast on being an ig personalitygirl half of her posts are just photos of herself. is doing something else than standing and looking pretty enough for you to like someone? cause that's what majority of the world is doing, and they don't get praise for that.
As for internet personalities, a lot of them do their own photos, or playing shitty music like Kelsy Karter, or have shitty businesses a'la Internetgirl or whatever. they're all putting out "work", it's just that it's shit, and they're allowed to do it bc of rich parents. how is Nadia different?
this chick's art would stand no chance without her being pretty, or more accurately, without having rich parents/connections from the start. i scrolled and one of the first photos she posted on IG was photoshoot in which she's kissing Danny Trejo
No. 1615128
>>1614920what is this 90s larper cindy sherman ripoff crap
men who do this get laughed out of art galleries, so i'm kind of impressed a girl is getting away with it.
but it is bad, wow.
are nadia's lips a prop, or real injections? sorry to be old but it's really disturbing to me how normalized in injections and surgery are to generation z. they don't even wait til their face bones have finished growing before fucking with them.
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>>1615129Pics i mentioned, there's one more where they're kissing. Maybe she begged Gilbert to ask his dad for this, kek
He's an actor so he prob didn't mind. shame that he didn't realize he's just being exploited, bc the pic was made for clout, not for art
>That's a guy you have a fucking bro down, storytime, end the day with a campfire on the beach hang withtrue, that sounds fun
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>>1615128>are nadia's lips a prop, or real injections?looks like they're real. why does she look like 70's shop mannequin tho
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>>1615187damn, it gets worse
No. 1615231
>>1615182>>1615228nooo why did she ruin her pretty face with this chloe cherry sad clown serial killer
victim shit
No. 1615236
>>1615233ayrt, the other pic is even worse.
I'd really like to know how she asked for that photo and HOW she described the great "concept" behind this piece of art.
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meanwhile at our Bisexual™ Queen
No. 1615687
>>1615542You guys, just say you like how Nadia looks and go. i don't get why you're dying to make her seem like some very hard working nepo baby. She is doing exactly the same amount of work as other LA rich kids - minimum effort, with instant career. if i want to see Cindy Sherman art, i go to see Cindy Sherman not insta thot that's ripping her off.
She's exactly the equivalent of Arrow or Sabrina, just in photography. ripping off well known artists and not getting calledout because they're rich/know some people. And now turns out she's fake and mean bitch. 100% typical LA art cow. Anons are right, if anybody else did what she did, they would get laughed at.
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>>1615438Any milk on Arrow and Dani especially? And you're bringing up exactly what i thought before:
>Gilbert literally hangs out with people a decade younger than him.this, and he's 34yo. that's not ancient, but at that age don't you have friends your age, with more life experience than fucking 19 year olds? he's going on tours with Starcrawler, so atsome point he was 30 and they were teenagers. ait's like he's trying to make himself younger than he is, add his nasty penchant for DD/lg and you see how pathetic it is. in 5 years he'll be 40 and still running with the kids trying to be uwu cute
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>>1615695he's 34??? oh man i thought he was 42. ok yeah in the entertainment biz, once you hit 40, you may have a friend group that ranges in age from 20 younger than you to 20 higher, because there are young performers, you might hire a bassist right out of college, your producers or directors might be much older than you, but you don't ONLY have 20 year old friends (i'm grouping fuck buddies, coworkers, and friends together in this example)
at 34, if you only have 22 year old friends, it means you're the one old guy in the group who is there because you can't make it over the bar of social interaction for other 34 year olds.
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>>1615929i genuinely thought she has prosthetic lips here
>>1613350 and mocking plastic surgheries was the point of thay photo. but then zoomed and it turned out it's not
i'm "manifesting" thin lips trend, just to watch them all panic and doing lip liposuction just to un-flate it
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>>1616218yah
>>1615128 thought it was a prosthetic too
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Margaritas Podridas somehow got Jack Endino to mix a song for them and they chose what sounds like their worst song yet to give to him
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>>1616750Well they have rich parents who bought them Coachella gig, so paying Jack Endino probably wasn't a problem for them. Jack probably wanted to be supportive, but i'd like to be fly on the wall and know what he really thinks about them and if he saw their instagram feed, full of Nirvana/Hole psychofan stuff.
>>1616773kek no, they're not sadbbydoll jess woods enough
No. 1617494
>>1617437I'm not the anon who posted it, but someone else who's from the same town/city as Margaritas Podridas and knew them brought the milk in the last thread. i mean it's all in thread summary anyway but here are the posts:
>>1510549,
>>1510574,
>>1510606,
>>1510633,
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>>1617858the band itself also dismisses the allegations, anon posted a bit about it before in last thread.
Tbh i don't know much about them, this bands isn't known at all in Europe, idk about North America. i'd read more milk about them if someone has. i'll just say they look ridiculous in those aliexpress babydoll dress knockoffs & this video is laughable. peak sadbbydoll tumblr
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>>1618809I mean, i thought it's obvious this thread and these cows are not milky in a standard way. like, we come here, drop whatever dirt we have on people from the industry, eventually post new milk from cows like Phoebe. i don't think you'll find a constantly & really milky cow here, definitely not /pt or even /snow level.
If we're looking for
consistently milky new cows, i'd say we need to keep an eye on Phoebe Bridgers, Dani Miller, Arrow (she has her own thread tho), Sabrina (sometimes) and especially Kelsy Karter, cause she has Vicky Shingles lever delusional narc boomer vibe about her, and feels perhaps most ridiculously misplaced of all. Dani & co. at least like rock music, Kelsy looks like some completely accidental thot who wandered into the scene somehow
but now that you mention vintage cows, i got remembered of one i wanted to ask you guys before about, i'll just write a proper summary
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Some anons will remember her i'm sure.
Lexa Vonn, a self-obsessed really niche cow, absolutely delusional about her level of fame.
>born Ivonne Nicoletti >40-something yo>delusional about her level of fame, hosts her own website>claims her Johnny Thunders was her cousin>in 90's she suddenly blowed up on MTV because of a t-shirt. She wore to school a White Zombie t-shirt showing woman with naked breasts and refused to change out of it, so the principal called police>held out a protest in front of the school, got escorted>in jail she wrote a letter that reached David Geffen>Geffen joined her publicity campaign which was televised by MTV & other stations, the case finally solved & principal got dismissed>spent young days on the streets of LA with gangs, modelling for boutics and acting in music videos>did "gore-gore dancing" for The Mentors, dressed in diapers (take that Arrow, you weren't the first like you think ha)>worked for some record labels and made clothes at the time too i guess>in 2000 started a band called Ophelia Rising. That's the band Emilie Autumn ripped everything she knew from (i'll get to this later)>the band released only one EP "Step 1: Acknowledge You're a Part of The System" and split>now you need to know one thing. Lexa was a MASSIVE Marilyn Manson fan/groupie>before going all-girl, she had a scrote guitarist who was also singing. they did a cover for a Marilyn Manson tribute, which was incidentally the only good cover on that CD>after Ophelia Rising split, Lexa had some column in some rock magazines. She found about 3 other "journalists" and basically pimped them out, i mean turned into "professional groupies" as she liked to call it, called "The Plastics">The Plastics had their website, forums etc. Lexa & her groupies would hit the Sunset Strip to do "art performance", which was fucking with famous rockstars, i mean "being a muse to them" but "actually professional". *"The Plastics soon became the “IT” girls of the Hollywood rock n’ roll scene, attracting both positive and negative attention. Along with their reviews, they offered local bands services in event hosting, go-go dancing and street team promotions. While supporting the local acts, the girls often dated celebrities, thus causing endless controversy. Jealous girls and provocateurs of sensationalism plagued the group with rumors and constant cyber bullying."
>aka Lexa probably didn't pay them, Lexa had an argument with them or insider dramas happened>Lexa used to be psycho Marilyn Manson fan and had a big Manson memorabilia collection, big enough she was selling out slowly through the years>allegedly she was Manson's groupie. not sure if they fucked for real but she befriended and met Manson a lot of times at the very least>in 2017, before the time when Manson got cancelled and all the allegations were spilling, Lexa took a completely differnt front and claimed Manson tied her and cut her up with the knife in 2011 or something. She filed sexual battery charges against him but she was immediately dismissed, because she used to sell Manson memorabilia. court said it's a campaign to get attention and sell more Manson itemsCurrently, Lexa simply does "solo" music. meaning, uploading videos on youtube. Now she's making/DIY remaking/selling punk clothes in her shop.
She's INCREDIBLY self-obsessed and delusional. Pretty much, reading her websites was milky in itself. She used to have a website Reallexavon.com on which she documented pretty much every thing she did, as if it was article news written by someone else and she was a big star. i know it's standard to make your own website as a musician of this caliber, but it was just beyond this. The site is now gone, she deleted this after she pressed charges against Manson, idk perhaps to hide she had connection with him or sold fan items. But she has a couple of other websites & socials now. She makes "interview with Lexa" type of videos about her past, influences, diaries, etc, she probably does Tiktoks now too. tons of material documenting every endeavor of her, idk how to describe it you'll read you'll know. she is/used to be some sort of pill addict, opiates or something else, and she has strange obsession with Boy George. not harmful but just kind of ridiculous in a lot of ways, she considers herself waaaay more famous than she "is". (i like her Ophelia Rising songs though). maybe someone has some more stuff on her
Here are current links i've found and some oldies:
https://plasticsfactory.wixsite.com/lexavonnhttps://thelegendoflexavonn.my-free.website/biohttps://plasticsprogroupies-blog.tumblr.com/whowearehttps://web.archive.org/web/20140602032819/http://www.plasticsgirls.com/https://www.facebook.com/RealLexaVonnhttps://www.instagram.com/lexavonnhttps://www.instagram.com/lexavonncollection/https://www.youtube.com/c/LexaVonn No. 1618903
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Now about her band, for the ones not familiar with the whole "Emilie Autumn ripped Ophelia Rising" drama. It was typical punk/alt music gothy girls dressed in corsets, a mix of JOJ, Rasputina and Manson, etc. What's interesting is the concept of the band, which is "Ophelia getting empowered". Fight like a girl? Opheliac? they did it all before
>The band name was derived from the book Reviving Ophelia, a psychological study on the loss of self experienced by adolescent females. Ophelia, having been a character created by Shakespeare who went insane and committed suicide after being emotionally torn apart by the men in her life she loved, was my version of Jim Morrison’s version of Dionysus. The band was a call to girls everywhere to fight, not the system, but our oppressors within it, that at times include ourselves.”
>Each song is an autobiographical tale of a situation that can potentially destroy you. However, it is through destruction that a new identity is born. You might subtitle the album: The Many Deaths of Ophelia.
>A common theme we present in our music is survivalism. When you have an open heart it is easy to drown in your love for other people, especially the fucked up ones. Ophelia Rising is about rising above these situations that hold you back; choosing life. It is also a reference to the return of the sacred feminine.they had Bloody Crumpets before Bloody Crumpets. they had chicks who danced, stripped, did lesbian stuff, etc. I mean even their scene and props look similar. more, they did crumpet throwing first. Emilie must've seen their LA show or at least found them online on some indie music website, since EA was advertizing herself on those sites too.
>"We have slogan that goes Sex, Drugs and Cupcakes. I get naked at the end of the show and throw pink cupcakes at the audience. I see the cupcake as a symbol of everything society expects a girl to be and everything that we as women want to transcend.We all met while wandering the music scene in West Hollywood, common friends and such. We’ve never had the opportunity to explode onstage, those kind of special effects were banned by the clubs after the Great White incident. But I do like to end each show by getting naked and throwing cupcakes to the crowd. I used to have two back up dancers in the band that would end up wrestling me in frosting. Afterwards, the fans would come up and lick the frosting off me. It was our holy communion.”
This blog did an article on the similarities and has a lot of photos:
https://millionsofstrangeshadows.tumblr.com/post/649216479655493632/ophelia-rising-the-original-opheliacs No. 1618904
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stage comparison
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The Plastics… oh boy there must've been the real drama. they look so trashy, i bet they must've been fighting/jealous of each other after a while. a bunch of dollar store Ditas Von Tease
No. 1618916
>>1618844haha, true. Phoebe Bridgers allegedly did, in the last thread. that whiteknight was oddly specific. oh and Demi Demitro, even though nobody even talked about her before lol. i need to check up what's up with the cows i mentioned more often. i'm sure there's something to post about it's just i don't pay close attention
Shit i just noticed my Lexa summary is just full of stupid mistakes and repetitions, that's what you get when you try to write and talk to someone at the same time i guess. too late to correct now though, sorry
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happy birthday terf hating bi queen! i wish you all the pussies you can ea– oh wait…
No. 1618979
>>1618968perhaps, but it was still entertaining to tinfoil about this
>i know a few of her friends irl give us some milk on Phoebe please
>>1618969well, she's kind of fat/fridgey.
No. 1619462
>>1619430I heard this band name but never paid attention to them, gotta look it up. I didn't know she skinwalks Katie Jane, the biggest KJ Garside skinwalker to date has been Arrow de Wilde though.
Jfc all these bitches are just so empty and unoriginal, and yet they get away with it because Katie Jane isn't known besides England and France
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I haven't seen their videos yet, but i can kinda see copying Daisy Chainsaw era KJG, not very drastically bbut yeah. Idk seems like the band is still existing? They have only 4000+ followers only though. And damn, lame band name. Obviously House of 1000 Corpses reference, all the basic bitches with e-girl costumes love this shit
No. 1619479
>>1619468As someone who LOVED QueenAdreena back in high school during the 2000, KatieJane Garside is truly one of a kind and I can't ever see anyone invoking the awesomeness of that band.
>>1619462I think these imitators showcase why they can never hold a candle to those they skinwalk because the OGs didn't just rely on their appearance to get by. I know that KJG is considered pretty but she had one heck of a voice and a quirky personality that showed how into the arts and literature she grew up and had interest with. These imitators don't seem to have any real interests aside from just skinwalking their idol.
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>>1619468kek she's even wearing the same sort of corset like Arrow here, which was a copy of a corset Katie Jane wore. these bitches are all the same. I haven't listen to anything of them yet, but if the chick is imitating Kate Jane's singing then double cringe.>>1619468
No. 1619484
>>1619479Same anon, i love Katie Jane so much, all of her music is great and pretty much all about her is so interesting: her lyrics, poems, her style (handmade clothes), her life overall because it was crazy. I found her so weirdly enchanting and relatable because of her just running around the world and hiding from people in isolated places, then coming back with strange music, and being so truly different in all of the interviews. i believe she has some mental illness, she mentioned disassociating a lot and even schizophrenia, but ever since she got laughed down for it in Daisy Chainsaw days she stopped.
So it's even more annoying to see shallow narcs wearing her skin. i can ignore Pussyliquor chick as it's not immediately obvious and prob not as often, but Arrow was just so offputting. i still keep my fingers crossed that she gets a proper callout
No. 1619520
>>1619462>>1619468>>1619479>>1619480>>1619484I’m glad I got a discussion going! But yeah I even remember briefly mentioning Katie Jane was one of my fav artists and (I think the singers gf? or just friend idk some girl I was talking to at a party) saying that KJ is one of the singers inspiration and I was like…you don’t say…..
The thing is whilst I do think KJ did amplify her stage ‘character’ to make it more of an immersive performance, she’s genuinely a talented person and is definitely not ‘neurotypical’ (sorry don’t know what else to use). She’s naturally weird but it’s endearing and I love the worlds she creates with her different projects.
Pussyliquor is a mixture of inspirations which is inevitable but unfortunately they don’t bring anything new, interesting or at least fun to the table. It’s being ‘out of the norm’ for the fun of it and to be counter culture with no substance.
>>1619494Also yes! Crispin is a mess but unfortunately him and KJ is what made QA (and DC) what they were. I think he’s still trying to ‘go back’ to that era with all the new bands he’s formed with he’s new gfs over the past 10+ years. If you watch the interview I linked above, you’ll get it despite all that’s left unsaid.
No. 1619534
>>1619520She consciously added theatrical elements to Daisy Chainsaw shows, which she admitted, but as for the rest of her bands, I think it's just how she is. From what she said in interviews it seems like she likes improvisation, meditation etc. and music takes her into some "other" space. While i'd probably say "yeah right" at anyone else claiming this, Katie Jane is someone i 100% believe in this regard, i mean it's visible. And yeah she's not neurotypical in the least, the weirdness is real. you can "feel" she's not there, or she is there, but in some different way & it's not fake "crazy" idiots like Arrow do.
>I think he’s still trying to ‘go back’ to that era with all the new bands he’s formed with he’s new gfs over the past 10+ years.omg yes. All of his other projects were just copies of Katie Jane more or less, besides Dogbones maybe. His current singer Starsha Lee gets compared to KJG and she's so fucking pissed about it, seen her write some salty comments. She says she spent most of her life in Brazil and didn't know about Katie, so take this as you will. Maybe it's true. Perhaps it's not as much her copying as much as Crispin finding same trade of chicks (visually), ahem.
The problem with Crispin is that he dated Katie in Daisy Chainsaw era and they split at some point. All Daisy chainsaw texts were written by Crispin and Katie wanted to write too, but he didn't want. She was done with media slamming her constantly and had a mental breakdown at some point, but she said not being able to express herself played some role too.
After they reconnected for Queen Adreena, it was good for a while and then Crispin pulled a huge diva. They were arguing for a while, and after Drink Me they were on the verge of quitting. They finally made next album but Crispin literally wouldn't sit with others in the same room, Katie was writing with Pete Howard & his teenage sons in their garage and sending ideas to Crispin back and forth.
Now Crispin seemingly undermines Queen Adreena, especially songs that were more Katie ideas than his. He allegedly made up with Katie & others these days but it's still telling how there's still some remnants of bitterness left lol
No. 1619585
>>1619534NTA, didn't Crispin also write the song "X-ing Off The Days" about KJG after she left? The lyrics are pretty harsh
>You walk all over anyone>Who dares to be a friend>Scream and yell because>You deem them unenlightened
>High upon your horse, you preach>You preach, you preach, you preach>Love thy fellow humans>All these filthy little creeps
>I do not know the answers>To the universe, I fear>So drop me cold and go and find>Your perfect man, my dear
>X-ing off the days>X-ing off the days
>I nearly broke my back>As I was bending back for you>Half the time was hell with you>And half a waste of time
>High upon your horse, you preach>You preach, you preach, you preach>Love thy fellow humans>All the filthy little creeps
>Black and white, left and right>Wrong and wrong, wrong and right>Black and white, left and right>Wrong and wrong and wrong and right>White and black, wrong and black>Left and black and wrong and right>Left and right, wrong and black>Wrong and right, black and white No. 1619623
>>1619585i mean, they split on bad terms. she was the one more hurt in my opinion. she had the press against her, calling her psycho, insane, stupid and whatnot, and couldn't even write her own lyrics. She went through the breakdown, Crispin just got his ego wounded.
>>1619600nah he's not groomey rapey, but he's a cow who didn't have it his way, so he threw a tantrum in a corner like a 5 year old. he's bitter because Daisy Chainsaw didn't get higher, and Queen Adreena failed commercially. he also gets salty because he discovered he was only good in combo with KatieJane. he tried to continue Daisy Chainsaw with some normie chick, and in the end he was the only one singing, but he flopped without KJG. same with other bands where he casted lookalikes. The only exception band that worked was The Dogbones, it was more grungey bc Nomi liked Nirvana and stuff.
>men get so dramatic when a woman stops making their sandwichesbest description of what happened lol
No. 1619633
>>1619623that being said, i love his music. he has a very unique guitar sound, and unique, weird riffing. guitars were better in QA and DC rather than Ruby Throat (Katie's solo project she does with her husband). I read abit about it and turns out he's got some faulty wired guitar or faulty wired amplifier at the pawn shop
tbh i could talk for days about queen adreena
No. 1619653
>>1619623>only good in combo with KatieJanethis is one of the most basic facts of being in a popular music group though. he must be very childish to be surprised by it then.
a band, whether rock band or rap crew or some kind of behind-the-man popstar songwriting group, is not like a group of car mechanics. it's not about facts, or numbers. there's something subjective that depends on intangible social stuff, and that is as much a part of your music as the notes you write down. it's like…not a new concept at all.
No. 1619668
>>1619653Idk, maybe Crispin wanted to be singer/superstar. He wasn't even the only one who pulled that shit, Queen Adreena's first bassist quit because "Everyone's attention was too much on Katie and not on the band" lmao
crybabies
No. 1619701
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>>1619676she was also original, she did "old lingerie" and "nymph in the wood" way before everyone, and did it effortlessly. I like Taxidermy and Drink Me era looks the best for some reason.
>>1619676True. i think she used to have
abusive ex though. her lyrics mention something like that. she had a blog and she wrote something about blames herself for death of her first boyfriend and so she chooses violet lover punish herself or something. if that's true, i'm happy for her that she's in a better place now. that she has a husband that understands her now & a daughter she wanted for so long.
No. 1619865
>>1619534>>1619623>>1619633>>1619676Crispin and Katie do work well together and I guess part of it was the push and pull of their relationship. I still like KJGs music with her husband, it’s more quiet although the new ‘liar, flower’ album has some heavier elements but unfortunately it’s just not the same. Crispin is a diva but you can’t deny his talent and unique sound (when in combo with KJG esp as the other women really do drown out the sound).
The switch between the soft and quiet and loud and brash is what made QA what they were. But it seemed at the time the crowds didn’t like it until a stronger fan base was built. Despite everything they’ll never reunite. It’s very telling that whilst Crispin is bitter, he still deep down hopes they’ll make a comeback (at least for a tour) whilst KJG was very quiet and hesitant when asked about a QA comeback. Why would she when she’s got the life she’s always wanted (husband, kids, boat life and a career where she can come back whenever she wants and sells well).
>>1619668Crispin’s vocals are good with KJG but boring on their own. Going for another singer in DC after KJG before he tried to sing himself and then they went with that random Japanese artist that was looking for an edgier phase, to form a useless band that again was just scraps from DC.
>>1619701Pete Howard always gave me weird vibes so idk if maybe she was talking about him sometimes bc I remember reading some stories from people who met the band saying he was a quiet, intense dude who seemed weirdly territorial over KJG. She wrote songs about Crispin whilst she was dating/married to him and in the same band so I don’t see why she wouldn’t do the same about Pete.
No. 1619882
>>1619484AYRT and agree so much with all you said. And yeah I remember watching a few KJG interviews and she had these nervous twitches in some of them and she would talk in a more poetic sounding way and I remember some people woule say that she was on drugs. I didn't know what to believe at the time (I was 16 when I saw those interviews on early YouTube lol). But I didn't want to judge her for that possibility because I loved QA so much. And then I read up more about her when she disappeared from the public to live on her boat with her husband. She definitely seemed to really value her privacy and not be made a spectacle and I can respect that.
>>1619520>>1619585>>1619623I actually never really looked much into Crispin because I was more infatuated with KJG at the time so this is all new to me lol. I respected his guitar playing style, it's really unique for sure. It's sad to hear that the break up was on bad terms and I'd like to believe that it wasn't about money and more about losing connection because they worked with each other for such a long time.
>>1619668Oi I didn't know that… It's sad in a way because Katie really was a hidden gem and she didn't want that seeing as how much of a social recluse she is.
>>1619676Agree with this. Katie on the surface back during DC days and the first few years of QA, she may have looked frail on the outside but behind it was this force to be reckoned with on stage with some of the antics she did, it's part of what made her so iconic. It helped that it felt natural.
>>1619701>Taxidermy and Drink Me era looksAgreed! Those are my favorites too aside from some looks she did doing the Butcher and the Butterfly.
>>1619865>Crispin and Katie do work well together and I guess part of it was the push and pull of their relationship. I still like KJGs music with her husband, it’s more quiet although the new ‘liar, flower’ album has some heavier elements but unfortunately it’s just not the same. Crispin is a diva but you can’t deny his talent and unique sound (when in combo with KJG esp as the other women really do drown out the sound).Agreed. Crispin may be a bit of diva but there's no denying he was talented and that he and KJG had great music making collaboration.
>Crispin’s vocals are good with KJG but boring on their own. Going for another singer in DC after KJG before he tried to sing himself and then they went with that random Japanese artist that was looking for an edgier phase, to form a useless band that again was just scraps from DC.Agreed, Crispin's vocals are passable but on their own, it just doesn't have that punch factor that Katie had and that many of the replacements didn't have neither. I don't want to come down too hard on Crispin because he obviously loved doing DC and QA and there's nothing wrong with that. It's not like he's harassing Katie (that I know of). I just hope that he can find a new passion project that he's satisfied with like how Katie is with her solo work.
No. 1620003
>>1619865>She wrote songs about Crispin whilst she was dating/married to him and in the same band so I don’t see why she wouldn’t do the same about Pete.But she dated Crispin in Daisy Chainsaw times, and she didn't write songs back then. unless you mean in Queen Adreena? tbh i wouldn't know which songs are about who, because she had a couple different boyfriends at least while in QA
>who seemed weirdly territorial over KJGDamn. Idk if she was talking about him specifically, but they definitly dated for a while, and in the last stage (Djinn album tours) he was already out of th band. Maybe you're right. I also don't think she'd like to come back to Queen Adreena because it was genuinely unhappy time for her. Maybe not as much as Daisy Chainsaw (she's really allergic towrds all DC mentions, she even didn't have a daisy chainsaw section on her website while all of her other projects had) & she clearly states she hated it in interviews. She was the one who left QA and just vanished in 2008 or so, so if she had to deal with both Pete Howard and Crispin throwing ego tantrums, then good luck, i would be outof band too. She found a guy that genuinely fits her imo because he has the same sort of boatman/busker vibe about him and from how he speaks about her it seemed like he's maybe the first guy who doesn't think of her as this crazy bitch or whatever
Any more stories you heard about meeting the band? it's always interesting
No. 1620012
>>1619882I don't think she was on drugs, that was maybe due to her overall being or problems, idk she seems very socially awkward. but who knows if you take her lyrics as truth about her (and it's safe to assume a lot of them are in this case) then she used to drink, maybe doing benzos (sleeping pill). who knows though maybe she did something more, i heard while in Daisy Chainsaw she dropped acid sometimes.
ppl of youtube generally assume she's on drugs but it's just the way she is consistently. i noticed though there's a big difference between her DC and in QA, in her behaviour. she seemed more hyped up when younger. maybe she was on something, or maybe she became more reserved with age & life experiences
As for Crispin he's def not the worst, a bit of a diva surely. they seem on good terms and in mail contact again, idk if that includes Howard tough
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Since we're on the topic, kind of want to share some stuff I found on The Dogbones, one of Crispin's other band projects after KJG left
http://www.nemesis.to/dogbonesinterview.htmIt's an interesting interview overall, seems like Nomi Leonard wasn't a huge fan of KJG's fans or aesthetic
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And here's Nomi's account of why she stopped working with Crispin, from FB. Apparently, both he and Sofia (singer of Starsha Lee) are cow-tier
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No. 1620371
>>1620326,
>>1620331,
>>1620334,
>>1620338,
>>1620343,
>>1620346,
Woooof girl. Concrete milk. I had no idea… So, Nomi's baby is CRISPIN'S? WTF? I knew they dated but i thought she had the baby with new bf!
I haven't even read this all yet, just a couple screens in but… WHAT. a fucking. shitbag. Jfc anon who said she gets awful narc boyfriend vibes from him was 100% right. Jesus i feel so bad for Nomi (she's also struggling with health, she has some serious muscle illness, i don't remember what but something that doesn't allow her to play guitar).
I'm in shock. This is awful, i knew he's awful cow but never thought he'd go to that lenghts. And i got reaaaally bad vibes from Starsha/Sophia chick too, with her passive, no, actually aggressive comments on Katie Jane, i'll post if i find them.
I feel so bad for Nomi and Katie and everyone ever involved with this scrote
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>>162037016/16
That's all I got on this for now
No. 1620382
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Continuing. Ever since I've seen Starsha Lee and Sophie's photography "artwork", i knew something is wrong. She's a total narcissist, from the looks of it. I mean, i know, self-portraits are a thing, and when you have no one else to photograph, you photograph yourself - i mean Katie Jane took a lot of pics of herself too. BUT, this girl's pics just scream self-obsessed, i can't really explain that. such a fucking art, a few blurry pics. wow.
She also throws herself around the stage, bares her chest and does the forced, high, squealing voice that annoyed the fuck out of me. i'm starting to believe she copies KJG and perhaps even Nomi.
honestly she reminds me a lil bit of Lindsay Usich. black hair, "photographer", doesn't give a fuck that her man is a narc who abuses other women.
No. 1620385
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>>1620382examples of "art"
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>>1620390I get it, but most of her pics is just her moping her head. gets boring after a while.
No. 1620408
>>1620394In the beginning i thought her photography is good, but then i realized it's very repetitive. it can pass, however her videos are something other. her filming herself and looking very cringe for whatever reason. sounding too.
>>1620384tbh Dogbones were what they were also bc of Nomi. She was also writing riffs and lyrics to some songs, and i think she was the reason it's so grungey because she likes Nirvana so much. i don't remember which songs she wrote besides Leyline but it looks to me like Stich Me and This Particular Hole were prob hers
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I hate women who grift on being female musicians like it’s a fucking novelty so much. Is there a word for this? Musical NLOG?
No. 1620588
>>1615128> men who do this get laughed out of art galleriesLate to the party but that’s not true, look at David LaChapelle
>>1618918I loathe is insufferable cow so much, her popularity never ceases to confuse me. I mean music isn’t objectively bad, it bores me but that’s subjective. The way zoomers are rabid over her makes no sense to me
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>>1620560Meanwhile, we stan a girl in a band who doesn't make a thing about being THE GIRL IN A BAND and just kicks ass.
No. 1620630
>>1620597I think he's pretty in love with himself, but not a raging misogynist.
as for terrible men in otherwise good bands:
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/the-long-blondes-reunion-shows-canceled-after-sexual-assault-allegations-against-guitarist/Men ruin everything.
No. 1620755
>>1620560we talked about this book a lot in the previous thread, you can see
>>1279833,
>>1279885,
>>1279902i was the anon who originally brought this up, what a fucking cow. i have no idea why people still love Sonic Youth and kiss the ground that Kim stands on, like some goddess when their impact on rock was minimal. bunch of pretentious rich fucks who thought they're most artistic, most alt ever. And this video shows how obnoxious Sonic Youth really is
>>1285799 No. 1620765
>>1620571yo any more info on those sessions? were they QA album sessions or something else?
well she admitted she's a little sex obsessed and she behaved like that onstage, but i doubt she walks offstage and tries to have sex with everyone in the sight. but yes she wore see through tits out clothes in the streets, she said she gets a lot of hate for how she dresses. i guess she just likes it.
makes me barf at Arrow and how hard she tries to walk with tits out in the streets like Katie Jane too
No. 1620970
>>1620906>>1620927>>1620968not that anon but i see no problem with her sitting in guys laps if they were friends and comfortable with each other. if they were strangers then sure, that's a little weird. maybe she was trying to flirt
>>1620906i wouldn't complain either
No. 1621205
>>1621121you know what i'll give the english their personal space
come sit VERY close to me and we will fear them together kek
No. 1621215
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Dani Miller has a new "music project", Trashworld.
Jfc i hate these LA morons with their pathetic poverty larps. Shitty destroyed basements crowded with carefully aranged trash, yey! much poverty, so artistic! talk back to us Dani when you're a homeless bitch prostituing and sleeping among real trash, let's see if it's still so cool and ~artsy~
No. 1621225
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>>1621215Words cannot express how stupid is that chick. Seems like she deleted a lot of tiktoks, but she literally livestreamed her shaving her leg hair (and pussy as well, considering her nasty hair isn't peaking from her pants as they always did, just HOPEFULLY off camera) for the first time in 10 years and calling it "clearing energy" and "big life change".
Take notes Arrow, you hasn't done such idiocies for fame yet huh
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It's also really annoying how she documents online every damn time she grieves her friend's death for clout, cause i don't know why else she posts this shit. Pretty much like Lilith Levisis used to milk death of that one chick. again, she deleted these but she used to have video sighing, making stupid faces and trying hard to cry along to dramatic soundtrack, while sitting in a car. And then, just few minutes later she sent a new video from the same day same car, jumping around like a moron and doin her usual happy "cRaZy uGlY cHic!" thing as if nothing happen. she just made it and uploaded it in one shuffle, weekly fake crying vid on the checklist, done, next. that's just so… distasteful
No. 1621270
>>1621215>>1621225these photos remind me of when ugly fat girls would make silly faces in all their profile pics to look like a hot girl making an ugly face.
the top photo is legitimately perplexing though. pandemic's over - how do you get that out of shape unless you're in the hospital on your back all year? she never dances on stage or lifts shit onto a bus?
No. 1621293
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>>1620588kek honestly. i don't even know that much about how she got her start but she couldn't be any more forced and manufactured if she stood in a flower pot and wet herself with a watering can
No. 1621299
>>1621293she has industry parents, and she fucked a lot of indie producers and musicians. It's all said in the previous thread, it's all in the damn summary up site.
That being said, she's just as pushed around as Billie Eilish was, getting Grammies and stuff. I don't know who approved that, i mean fucking Ryan Adams &Conor Oberst helps but why exactly she skyrocketed so much. why was she picked up as next it celebrity all of a sudden. cause it's much more than just indie fame
No. 1621797
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>>1621746i found interview where she says she had bad teeth and went to dentist and it got worse. idk
No. 1621851
>>1621839Wait, wait. I'm rereading it and… she went to the dentist and couldn't put fakes in, so they pulled her fucking tooth out to make more space to fit fakes in, and then she just said "Ah well i'm over it i'm speshull now~", and she decided NOT to put fakes in and left gaping holes in her mouth? Jeez if that's true, then they paid good money just to have people make even bigger hole and then left midway bc "i'm over it now".
That or it's just some fantastic bullshit. Can we find her childhood photos? maybe she has some on her insta
No. 1621856
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Interesting that she says nothng that would indicate how wealthy or not her parents are, what jobs they had etc. Just that they're bikers.
No. 1623073
>>1621798No. Lush were an actually good band with an original sound (one of the first to be called shoegaze I think).
I don't really care if someone has industry contacts via their parents, what grinds my gears is when those contacts are used to push that person to the top of the queue and the charts.
No. 1624045
>>1620755I admit that I still like some of Sonic Youth's music. I really like songs like "Bull In the Heather", "Kool Thing", "Jams Run Free", and "Reena" to name a few songs. Despite the drama that happened within the band, in my opinion they had a rather neat sound.
That said, it sucks that Kim is so awful to other women in the industry.
No. 1624394
>>1624062Again I understand. The lyrics are pretty cringe, especially the male white corporate oppression bit but still, I like the instrumentals in that song and Kim's singing voice just worked for it.
>>1624200It was more or less the same for me, I was never a fan of full albums of theirs because there were plenty of songs that I didn't like and thought sounded bad but the few that did catch my ear, I like listening to them lol.
With Sonic Youth, it's just a hard separate the artist from their work type of deal. It's not like anyone in the band committed rape or murder, just drama that unfortunately a lot of bands can have in them.
No. 1637945
Saged cause unusual post, but i think it needs to be discussed. Anons posting here are probably aware by now of the situation Keffals vs Kiwifarms, censoring internet by troons and how LC is likely to be their next target. can we talk where could we move in case LC gets taken down too?
Arrow, Indie cows thread, Emilie Autumn thread as well, are all very specific niche minor cows, and if we want to continue to get that niche milk (and i know i do), we'd have to be the ones to remake threads in case something happens to lolcow. both IBCG and Arrow threads are archived on Wayback Machine and archive.is.
Any ideas where should we go if LC is no more? other nonnies mentioned going to crystal cafe, livejournal, making up their own chans, whatever, but it's still largely undecided where we all go if. I honestly thought if it doesn't get sorted out yet and lolcow suddenly goes down, i'd make a temporary "indiebandcows.tumblr.com" and we could communicate through anon asks, to sort out what to do next.
That being said, i hope nothing happens to lolcow, but i feel we shouldn't feel too optimistic.
No. 1643458
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Samefag, found on wiki.
>Early in their professional career, The SoapGirls were a dance-pop act signed to the South African branch of Universal Music Group.[4]
>At ages 14 and 15 (c. 2010), following interest in the song on the Japanese compilation disc, they were signed to Universal Records[8] where they scored a South African number one hit album Xperience (2011) and four South African Top 5 singles[10][4] with exposure on a number of South African TV shows, compilation CDs,[11] and national tours
Lmao, very punk rock indeed. Connected parents confirmed?
No. 1643463
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Their mother is their manager. Hands Off Gretel vibes i see.
No. 1643467
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Lmao, they look very punk rock indeed.
No. 1643474
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No. 1643481
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>>1643474>when they were 12-13 years old they were singing and dancing in the street>currently their shtick is wearing thongs and bras>>mom is their manager so is fully aware of and supporting their "sexy" imageDisgusted, but not surprised
>>1643448They're a South African Starcrawler in that they are saving rock and roll with their stunning voices and amazing instrumentals. I'm wondering if the scrotes commenting are bots or shills from nepotism connects or they're trying to shoot their shot someone from the group will notice the positive comments and try to fuck them. Judging by the emoji use I'm thinking they are bots.
No. 1643485
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I see why they're hailed by scrotes primarily tbh. When you google Soap Girls, all you see is these bimbos with their asses out.
(ew, all their CD covers are identical, and badly done. graphic design is my passion)
No. 1643562
>>1643496forgot to add that it's acoustic. The Introducing: soap girls article upthread has soundcloud link to dance version of the song.
I'm very confused why these rich/nepo pop chicks always choose to go into "punk rock"
No. 1644409
>>1644079Mom was additionally working for some label/promotion? i don't remember. And father worked for tv. they're somehow lowkey tied to music industry.
The point is, her mother was fucking rich and on her website, she claims she raised her children in huge mediterranean house, and if you google these + LA, you can see how they look like, and what cash they go for. Meaning, rich family. But Phoebe Bridgers claims she was poor, that her mother is a standup comedian not estate agent, and always cries she busked in the streets, and that "ppl who say money doesn't matter are always ppl who are rich" etc. Aka she's poverty/working class larper. people don't even question this, while the truth is just a google search away.
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>>1644409Apparently being surrounded by people richer than you means you’re not middle class or some shit
No. 1647592
>>1647577kek "my parents have a vacation house but my friend's parents have an island so if you think about it my family's kinda poor"
there's no shame in being an upperclass faildaughter as long as you admit it.
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>>1658785>>1658804Monandile is already cancelled for rape.
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>>1658785>>1658746James Ferraro and his 15 year old girlfriend Labanna Bly
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You should be
No. 1670952
>>1670935I was going to mention this, the i-D clips are all over my TikTok fyp (don’t judge me, it’s not a personal account, I work in digital media) and it seems so… manufactured.
>>1670613I can’t stand this fucking tranny-caping NLOG handmaiden, I wish she’d fuck off and take her mediocre music and psychotic fan base with her
No. 1671139
>>1670954>No Wave as an influenceanon, no wave happened before SY. they just came and hopped on the trend. They were nothing but a bunch of posturing rich kid skinwalkers who adapted to something that happened. Even Kim said they tried no wave when no wave was essentially already dead.
>Kim is genuinely talented as were the rest,disagree. Yes they had influence on younger people, unfortunately. but their music genuinely sucked most of the time and… Kim talented? i could agree their guitarist was talented, not Kim. She couldn't write melodies for shit, she just did singing-talking, and her lyrics was a bunch of pretentious nonsense.
None of what they've done was innovative or something that hasn't been done before
No. 1671350
>>1671139With the first point, that's what I meant by "what people really mean when they cite the No Wave as an influence" because most no wave shit was noise for the sake of noise. SY were the first ones to take those sounds and craft something resembling songs.
With the second point, Kim's bass was the only thing that anchored a lot of their early work and did double duty carrying the rhythm and melody when Thurston and Lee went off exploring textures. While a lot of her songs were pretentious and her singing resembles a cat being beaten, songs like Bull in the Heather, JC and Reena are still genuinely good pop songs.
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Adding that i-D does pay to play. or rather pay to get published. or get published through your friends. Arrow's pointless feature on i-D about 8 months before she even had a record out shows it perfectly. I see Weebadoob was slapped on cover of that ugly kink magazine for LA fucktards same a Arrow did, which makes me think she has friends in same wanker photo porn (uhm, i mean "art") spaces in LA.
interestingly i've seen inn comments she was accused of blackfishing for this shoot lol
Also… 1.6 millions of followers? yeah, no. not in the least. other indie chicks of her caliber get 230k follows at most. i can believe 1 million for Phoebe Bridgers but not this one. fake followers business here.
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>>1658823>>1658804In an interview she said:
>That was not the only time I had been sexually abused. I lost my virginity unwillingly as well. Although that situation was much more about the lack of education for both sexes, on the subject of rape. >>1660156Well she doesn't have a music career anymore, probably got blacklisted after the break up.
>>1660150He bragged about this on his blog, it is well known.
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It's over for indie.
No. 1672106
>>1672100>The eleventh wave is here, get your booster!damn, not again.
Hey indie bands, come to eastern Europe. Covid is cancelled, we only talk about war in Ukraine. no masks, no precautions, no dumb shit anymore.
No. 1672235
>>1672088Had a look at this and they have comments switched off, cowards
They get like average 1k insta likes, since social lives will take some years to recover after covid, they likely don't have enough die-hard fans in Europe to sustain a tour at present. Most festivals and gigs would be filled with casual fans rather than die-hard; you like one song by the band so you go. But a casual fan won't take the risk to book tickets to things that may be cancelled right now, until trust has been regained and social lives have recovered, (probably mid 2023-2024 things will pick up) bands all need to downscale otherwise they just make themselves look bad booking and cancelling like this.
No. 1672753
>>1672088>>1672175>>1672426We're pretty much through the looking glass of live shows being only plausible if you can get the funding for them well ahead of time from some conglomerate and are able and willing to give up a disgusting amount of profit for it. At least, you have to be seriously in demand for shows not going through a vendor like Live Nation to be salvageable at all.
From what I recall, AnCo go through some of the more straightforward tour companies that end up hitting a lot of mid-level spots in major cities. Large venues to stadiums have essentially been fully bought out by huge companies like Live Nation. It's a monopoly. This is why they can get away with charging ~$200 a pop for nosebleeds to a concert that just got announced - there's no competition left.
Indie bands get left in the dust if they truly wanna do it DIY anymore. You either pony it up and go hit the corporation-approved "small venue" circuit, giving up merch sales to venues and ticket sales to that company, or you attempt to forge what you can with your own say and usually end up shouldering nearly 100% of the financial burden and workload. I think Covid gave some big companies the perfect opportunity to put the hammer down and essentially make venues play by their rules. Real historic clubs that are just outside of major cities are already gone. I can think of a good handful off the top of my head near me that couldn't sustain being truly independent without already having a notable presence for years and years in the middle of a city.
At least I get to see Algernon Cadwallader live before live indie music dies off forever.
No. 1673073
>>1673019Mainstream/long established bands with lots of fans will be more or less. Let's take for example hmm, last band that toured in my country (in Europe) most recently, like Sum 41. they're not a super famous band anymore, like they were in years 2003-2008, they're not on mainstream labels anymore. But they've got dedicated fans worldwide so they can allow to tour freely. Now for indie bands who try hardest to DIY, or bands that are only known to select circles of ppl etc. yes they will have a problem. The whole organization side of these things is just black magic to me, things like anon here explains
>>1672753 but underground bands prob won't be able to tour worldwide.
>If even industry plant bands with rich parents like arrow can’t afford to tour because the demand isn’t there anymoreArrow is a a little different situation imo. starcrawler is not going to Europe now bc they're touring US - that's what US bands usually do after record release, Europe later. iirc they did a round of shitty European clubs + huge arenas with MCR in summer. (all in one tour! like 1 day playing for 50k kids who came to see cheerleader Gerard, next day they play for 20 ugly boomer dads in tiny club when Gerard has a day off. Shows perfectly the disparity between "nepo shows" and their "headlining gigs" lolol.)
Arrow is much much better situated than majority of indie bands, if she wanted she could cover half the cost from her mom's pocket. Her label is affiliated with Universal but they don't give them unlimited amount of money because there's no demand for HER band. And that's what she can't help even with mom bucks. They did and def will tour select countries in Europe, but unless she teams up with her mom's famous scrote friend bands again, Starcrawler will always play in shitty clubs (as they did before). it's a fake pumped hype with no real following. My point is, it's not even that demand isn't there anymore for starcrawler, i don't think there ever was
No. 1674292
>>1670935>>1670952>>1671620i-D in general is very, very manufacted magazine and it was since very start back in 1980, but always was advertised as "alternative". Dude who founded it, Terry Jones, worked in British Vogue back in 70s and iirc he worked literally on covers which is pretty much highly influential postion. i-D might started with street snaps of punks and goths but it quickly morphed into something closer to The Face, with full color pages, pieces about big bands and lot of fashion. In late 80s and early 90s they wanted to be more alternative and they started to virtue signal and spread early wokeism, which got less edgy by mid 90s (concides with Scott King, later of Sleazenation fame taking over art direction) and started to morph from culture-music-fashion hybrid magazine to glossy fashion rag that was almost same as other fashion magazines by mid 00s. Around ten years later, after Vice fucking bought it out it fallen down and web version was launched staffed by idiots same as at Vice which is worst parts of i-D condensed into site, with more dumb politics and lazy journalism (i-D has history of it going back to 90s, when social justice shit took good chunk of pages and people slammed them in letters, though it was pre-internet era). Now a literal legacy publication, tries to appeal to zoomers by featuring industry plants and literal whos which can easily support that they probably take money to shill some hacks. 20-25 years ago magazines like this shilled new acts but you knew they were big label acts or actually independent, undeground acts. Nowadays they'll try to pass industry plants as indie because there's not much of actual indie, underground artists getting signed and becoming famous. It's not organic anymore.
It's similar with re-launched The Face. Bea got a piece about her, they got fucking Shoichi Aoki to shoot her for more late 90s larp. It's similar to Pinkpantheress, she's more on electronic side (though fucking lazy, passing sped up Adam F's Circles with her vocals as her track lmao) who started to be shilled in a way very similar Bea got, basically using dying rags like i-D or Dazed with tiktok on top, combined with "mysterious" persona smells like plant for me. Her popularity was sudden and I never saw people talking about her before. I wonder why no one's talking about her, UK got a good chunk of industry plants, nepo babies and Brit School kids. Windmill scene or something? That band with Karl Hyde's (dude from Underworld) daugter smells both nepo and planted, not gonna lie.
>>1670975Zoomers seethe that they didn't got young adulthood their parents could have and this nostalgia schtick is pure cope, especially with how world fucked is now.
>>1671153Yeah, exactly. Earlier lables didn't hide that they manufacted these acts, I mentioned it earlier my post but it's mostly due to lack of acts that grew organically than label plants and nepo babies.
sage for autism
No. 1674310
>>1674292AYRT who works in digital media, you’re exactly right about i-D, but then the same can be said for all “trying to be edgy but still pretty mainstream” publications these days. I think it’s pretty hard to remain relevant when the majority of trends are being set by individuals on social media rather than people whose careers have been built around being arbiters of style and taste (ie print media editors, columnists, stylists, even bloggers have fuck all reach these days, it’s all about “influencers” and nepotism models). The Face should have never been resurrected, it was such an iconic magazine and now it’s just… well. As far as I’m concerned no music magazine will ever beat Select (RIP).
>>1673073Starcrawler have been to my city twice now, the first time was with the Growlers and they played at one of my favourite venues which was way too big for them (to give you an idea, it’s a venue that has had the likes of Sonic Youth, Beastie Boys, Primal Scream and even fucking Oasis play there) and the second time (earlier this year) they played at a shitty pub that no one who likes decent music would be caught dead at, kek (incidentally I had free tickets both times and even that wasn’t incentive for me to go). Anyway, my point is, bands like Starcrawler only get to play venues of calibre when they’re supporting bigger acts and when they play their own headline shows they can’t pull a crowd because it’s so fucking obvious that they’re a plant/product of nepotism or whatever. People who are really into music can smell that shit from a country mile and are not having it. There’s a certain degree of animosity toward obvious plants who score coveted support slots and festival bills because there are so many bands out there working their asses off and being far more deserving of that level of exposure.
No. 1674343
>>1674310Exactly. Same for Dazed, it fallen down even harder than i-D. Generally these magazines fail nowadays because most of staff that created them and their legacies are pushing their 50s and 40s, some i-D people are even older. It started in mid 00s, but nowadays it's even more accelerated.You're right about that internet randos can outdo these types of people who were tastemakers in print, trends spread differently and it's more decentralized that it was before. Lot of people who want to build careers on it must compete with randos that just steal scans from tumblr for an example and repost and start another meme trend. They try to stay relevant by writing about these accounts, nepo babies or industry plants with some shitty listicles to spoonfed zoomies about 90s and early 00s because they can't find anything themselves (tbh that's why these aesthetic accounts are so popular, they just copy their taste from here).
I agree about The Face completely. New print magazine from what I saw is lackluster, internet version is shit and amount of plants, nepobabies and internet randos they shill and shitty politics coverage is massive. Though I have only late 90s issues, was great and cutting edge in many aspects and this now is just a massive stain on their legacy. Because of that I hope no one ever revives Sleazenation. It would be even bigger tragedy, in 2022 it would end up being so damn sanitized and hysterical about current thing. It's charm was about being snarky and massive proto-hipsters, trying to be offensive even.
Select was great too, I want to get some issues since scans on the internet are lackluster. But still their content was great. Muzik was another good magazine, though entirely electronic music focused, i'm glad someone uploaded it in entirety.
No. 1674868
>>1674292>>1674343These magazines all seem like they only exist now to please rich fucks & plants themselves. It's made by those plants, catering to plants and consumed by plants. It's literally just an excuse to gather all nepo "artists" & their friends and "give them jobs". Petra Collins as photog., Lotta Volkova as stylist, Holli Smith as hairstylist - i don't even count how many times i've seen these boring names listed out under each i-D article. "Artists" they write about: nepo models, Bella Hadid, that troon from Euphoria, Zendaya, Miley Cyrus & the Gucci collective, Dani Miller, Arrow, Nada Lee Cohen, Jaden Smith, FKA twigs, some black models as a "diversity" and people nobody even fucking knows. all made just so these people have their narc fuel, literally nobody else cares
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Farmers, is that you haha. which one of you is still worrying about Mistress Emilie's financial situation? she's a rich fuck living lavicious life in the center of Manhattan, calm tf down. and she's not gonna tour again anyway, ever.
No. 1675141
>>1674868>"Artists" they write about: nepo models, Bella Hadid, that troon from Euphoria, Zendaya, Miley Cyrus & the Gucci collective, Dani Miller, Arrow, Nadia Lee Cohen, Jaden Smith, FKA twigs, some black models as a "diversity" and people nobody even fucking knowsI love how they feature these mainstream boring nepoplants yet still try to position themselves as alternative and cutting edge, what a fucking farce
>>1674855>just did an extended jam sessionYou say that like it’s a bad thing! I love the extended jam session impromptu set. Maybe not for Animal Collective though, tbf. I DJd with Panda Bear at a pretentious party a few years ago, the records he played were far better than the band’s live set, frankly I’d take obscure Turkish psychedelic bands from the 60s over AC any day
>>1674343How good was Muzik? I love that it’s been uploaded in its entirety. I don’t know why the quality of the Select archives is so rubbish, it’s so disappointing. I actually have pretty much every single issue from 1994 till the curtain call boxed up in storage, I wonder how long it would take me to scan them all
No. 1675469
>>1675426Nadia's a boring nepo rich bitch with a nasty attitude and mediocre art, but at least i can understand simping for her (except for her blob fish lips). Simping for Arrow is lowest of fucking lows
But honestly fuck them all, beauty is not enough for me
No. 1676319
>>1675633it’s all Cindy Sherman reboots, so the market was already established
somehow I can’t be mad, she’s pretty and the images are technically polished so her annoying self-importance is semi-tolerable
dad is in The City or some other lucrative finance thing, is what I have heard
No. 1676549
>>1675422>ugly dudes test out synthesizersThe indie scene in a nutshell, kek
>>1675469>a nasty attitude Sauce? Not doubting it, just curious
No. 1676972
>>1676549another 2 anons mentioned it, i repeated. I honestly don't have a reason to doubt it, considering the circles she runs in.
>>1676319Am i the only one severly unimpressed by Nadia and her inflated lips? Nobody cares that she's pretty. nobody cares how pretty is a cow, everybody shits on pretty cows here either way. Pretty = let's forget everything, ugly = yesss, let's hate this one? not saying Nadia is a huge cow or a very bad person, she isn't even milky. but she's boring as all fuck, and generally seems like one of the ppl i usually dislike. genuinely see no reason to like her, besides "being pretty". you lesbianons are getting blinded by your instincts
No. 1677537
>>1677208>immediate career thanks to daddy & mommy>shitty unoriginal ripoff art>rich LA kid with a personality of a cardboard.these things are also what 99% people in indie thread are exposed/disliked for. you don't have to dislike her, but Nadia is no different from most of the people itt. it's fine if you like her, but using
>b-b-but she's prettyas why she's "likeable" is kinda scrote reasoning.
No. 1677629
>>1677537anon, she said nadia is neither likable nor hateable.
>>1677208 is literally a statement of neutrality kek
No. 1677737
>>1677627>>1660150,
>>1660154"it's me James Ferrano" lol
No. 1677877
>>1677737no i was
>>1677627 and i meant the posts saying ferrano did nothing and labanna has a yuge career sound like him!
No. 1678953
>>1678748They're plants 100%, Dave Grohl shilled them iirc. And when Dave Grohl shills someone, it's usually a plant. we talked about them a little in previous thread. i think they either have influential parents but keep them a secret, or were randomly plucked out by some "indie trend" factory who decided to make them it girls.
at this point, i 100% believe there are industry plant factories for alternative and especially for fucking pop punk. it's like in the 90's every record label people chased after each & every even tangentially grunge related band bc they wanted the next Nirvana.
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For me The Regrettes was the worst band out of these, their "music"genuinely shocked me with its utter shittiness. this is called "punk rock"? Their songs sound like The Veronicas. (that's a typical 2009 scene pop sort of band who toured with Jonas Brothers, to give you an idea.) This band is on Warner and i see they're mainstream in the ways Starcrawler can only dream & seethe about. i didn't know her parents are such influential. Maybe we should take a look at Lydia Night, she looks like a narcissist cow even from afar. they're like Tramp Stamps
No. 1679319
>>1678748it sounds like all the worst qualities of oversaturated hipster hype music in 2011, played through a tinny as fuck car stereo
and i can't believe so many people who literally can't sing get jobs as singers. these people are just talking quietly into a microphone and recording it over their stupid mid-00's karoake
No. 1687397
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Lmao Kelsy Karter deleted every trace of her "punk" career and spergy narcissistic anti- "urban artist" posts on IG and has a "career makeover"… again. she hired some hairy scrotes and now she's going by Kelsy Karter & The Heroines.
nuking all the previous posts and posting a couple new perfectly shows that all of her 139k followers are bought. no comments, no likes on new posts, most i've seen was 2000k likes and 10 comments.
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>>1687397guess because her "punk", then "pop punk" phase didn't work, she's now announcing that "punk is dead" and going for classic hard rock or whatever lol
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whoever is throwing money to fund this "project" is really wasting that cash hard. it's pop punk sellout plant era more than ever but this skinwalker still can't gather genuine fanbase. besides maybe tiktok, where she larps as "messy chick" who walks around with a fag hanging out of her lips all the time
i kind of regret not screenshotting her old IG captions cause it was a peak boomer management like
>>1347767,
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own tour bus but still no fanbase of her own. idk how she fills up the rock venues, the only way i could see this is that she probably plays at all day & night kind of mass festivals
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gotta love it how instead of researching any basic top google results band name she just ordered "hardcore punk" shirt lmao
No. 1687427
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Damn this skinwalker has been around for a while with her poor attempts. i found a bit about her now deleted pre-Kelsy Karter the "hardcore punker" past. she used to be a cheap Lana Del Rey/Amy Winehouse/Marina and the Diamonds skinwalker, and she had a soul/jazz/pop album out in 2014 or 2015. but she;s been trying to make it unsuccessfully since 2012. here's a couple of interviews and pics
>Growing up studying dance, acting and instrumentation throughout her childhood in the Gold Coast, Kelsy Karter eventually relocated to Los Angeles to pursue her music career. After garnishing attention with her 2012 song “The Revolution”, she went on to release her 2013 single “Ghost Town”, produced by The Movement. Karter’s exposure grew even more after performing vocals on Infected Mushroom’s “Now Is Gold”. Her creative and comical dedication tune “Johnny Depp”, released this year displayed her talents as a songwriter.
>Kelsy is based in Beverly Hills and made the life-changing decision to move overseas after graduating from high school. “I have always felt like a bit of an outsider, like I don't want to say I didn't fit in with normalcy, but I always saw something more chaotic for myself. When I was growing up, I went to America a lot and saw people doing what I had always loved doing, and they did it as their life. It was their career. It has always been something I had planned to do. I went over to America just before my 17nth birthday for a dance tour, basically workshops at all the major performing arts centres, and I saw people just doing crazy things with their careers. I went home and said to my Mum: 'That's where I need to be’.https://scenestr.com.au/music/kelsy-karter-is-the-rebel-dollhttps://clichemag.com/music/kelsy-karter-chats-her-ep-kiss-the-boys-and-being-a-rebel/https://essentiallypop.com/epop/2015/01/introducing-kelsy-karter/https://colorising.com/kelsy-karter-interview/ No. 1687428
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>>1687427Amy Winehouse larp
No. 1687884
>>1687538I thought the Regrettes are still around? (unfortunately) Tramp Stamps aren't though. Last time they posted was January, their instagram is filled with odd far east comments and whatnot. Their tiktok is purged. great, can someone expose Starcrawler now?
i sort of wonder if they aren't trying to make a comeback solo. TS singer for example was known to have Lana Del Rey knockoff career in the past similar to Kelsy.
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Lmao searching tramp stamps tag i found this ridiculousness. A new industry plant "plantsplains"* to us why being industry plant is totally a good thing (but they ABSOLUTELY aren't industry plants just saying!!!)
*sorry i couldn't resist temptation
No. 1687893
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>>1687892The band is called Crawlers, they are tiktok friends with Kelsy karter and they went on recent tour with My Chemical Romance, along with Starcrawler and Gayle. i think there's no need for any other proofs they're plants, Gerard loves fake industry bands.
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>>1687893lmao girl you just told on yourself
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>>1687895~we're a working class band~ wow
They have 1 record out, and they are on fucking Polydor. that's the same label that Madonna, Eminem, Black Eyed Peas, Gwen Stefani, Lana Del Rey, Lady Gaga, Selena Gomez, Kendrick Lamar, Maroon 5, Sting and JoJo are on. if pre-covid they had absolutely no fans, then where is this independent career? where is this independent label they were on? lmao
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Not sure if this fits here since I don’t actually know who Nessa Barrett is. Apparently tiktok famous who makes Lana, Melanie derivatives. She seems like such a cow though. With a tranny face to boot.
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>>1689140Canceling show over fighting with a scrote or what lmao
No. 1689325
>>1689140shouldn't this go to tiktok general instead?
No idea who this bitch is, but she looks very much "goth egirl zoomer" style, i thought she'd be copying Melanie Martinez uwu adult diaper style. excusing cancelling with bpd episodes is cringey, talking about your bpd episodes all the time online is even more cringey.
No. 1693890
>>1689140The only milk I have about Nessa Barrett is that Charli D'Amelio's ex boyfriend Chase Hudson cheated on her with Nessa. They stopped being friends for a while but are now friends again.
Does she fit this thread? She's MGK and Olivia Rodrigo adjacent.
>>1689325All of these tiktok musicians copy Melanie's style. Bella Poarch is another one but at least Bella is friends with Melanie so it's more copying by association
No. 1694032
>>1693890>Does she fit this thread? She's MGK and Olivia Rodrigo adjacent.i think she doesn't. MGK/Rodrigo/Williow Smith/pop punk bullshitters all are a different thing to indie cows. iirc we have at least 2 actual pop punk retards threads but on /ot/ might fit there.
That being said, poppunk and indie sometimes cross in a way. we mentioned both Melanie and MGK and Avril in a few posts in previous indie thread, so a few ot posts like that won't hurt but honestly i don't think posting her on a regular here would make sense, bc she doesn't seem that milky. Bella Poarch completely doesn't belong here as well.
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These people just come and go. Remember someone posted that Holly Humbersome got BRIT award? who even listens to that. bc it's all one "tik tok hit wonders", obviously they're plants with huge backing but they disappear soon after cause zoomies have attention span no longer than 3seconds. it's just crazy the speed of how these plants are produced.
Another example would be this Gayle plant with that stupid "ABCDfu" song. she probably has millions of tik tok followers but that's because zoomers follow massively every aethetic emo goth alternate looking people they see. i don't think she has any genuine audience. they try to shill her though, Gayle went on tour with MCR and Starcrawler. all these people, i feel like a perfect summary for them would be Cropp/Forever 21/Hot Topic default TV music bc that's the only place i see this played, those video screens with edgy teen playlists in House or wherever.
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>>1694050>holly humbersomefunny you mentioned her because she put all her olds songs together added 1 or 2 new songs and called it an album kek. she's getting shilled so much on playlists right now, just to have low numbers.
i swear some of these musicians are only called indie because they can't compete with actual pop artists.
No. 1695338
>>1689140Posting in here again because I found some more milk about her. She was on the call her daddy podcast
>She has bpd and adhd>says most of her relationships are based on her hyperfixating on one person because of bpd>has a complicated relationship with her dad but still loves him>was diagnosed with bipolar disorder before bpd because it runs in her family>attempted suicide when she was 14>used to be anachan>says her dad was into music, had a studio in his house and that's how she started making music>says she doesn't ever feel happiness and can't imagine what it feels like, only ever feels sadnessoverall she reminds me of halsey, aren't they both from new jersey kek? the pop punk thread is dead and the nhbd rip offs in this thread.
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Phoebe Bridgers may or may not be engaged. from the guardian:
>“I just don’t think it’s particularly useful for people to see, like, literally you,” he said. “I thought it’s either get off the bus now or stay on it, and I wanted to get off. In ten years I might rue the day I threw out social media, but look, it just is what it is.”>“(Mescal did, however, stay on long enough to exchange charged messages on Twitter and Instagram with musician Phoebe Bridgers; the pair are now engaged.)”>>1694960>writes unimportant navel gazey articles for npr.this seems like the natural end for the riotgirrl movement, they were hipsters before hipsters were thing and the west coast? they never had a chance.
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>>1695338>>1689140wait its that retarded girl from this video. i legit thought it was a bit. but shes really this fucking vapid and im14andthisisdeep…
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Within a year, they have spots at Pitchfork, Riot Fest, WWWY and meet up w Kopmala. Isn’t one of their dads some record executive? I swear a recent Jawbreaker interview let that slip(hence why they also opened for them for several dates)
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>>1696189who are these?
>recent Jawbreaker interview let that slip(hence why they also opened for them for several datesJawbreaker as in THIS Jawbreaker? it's one of my fav bands, it'd be sad if they take up some industry plants. i don't check up on their touring details bc they'll never tour in my country anyway sadly.
No. 1696285
>>1696189One of there dads owns a record label and was able to get them a fender sponsorship before they even put out an EP. One of the girls fathers is literally a Grammy award winning producer, and another father is famous from being a painter/founding an Asian American magazine giant robot or something similar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Linda_LindasBasically within a couple of months they stared playing opening shows for major punk bands around cali, met bikini kill etc. and had a song in a Netflix show all by the end of 2019, started going on tv shows in 2020 before they blew up from a video in 2020 they wrote about racism and within a couple weeks i remember seeing there shirts in hottopic, seeing ads with them etc. Most of the fans Ive seen are just neolib fucks who only remember them off the library video
https://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/niubqq/racist_sexist_boy_rockers_the_linda_lindas_have_a/they also seem to have quite an age difference with one of the girls currently 18 while the youngest is 12
according to their own wiki page the band was founded by the parents
I mean, good for them and I hope they have fun. But anyone thinking this is a genuine band and not the creation of the parents is fooling themselves.
i am not going to lie if this band came out when i was in my tweens/teen years i would have been so jealous, these girls are super fortunate to have these connections omg No. 1698599
>>1697796If i was a 50 year old in a semi-retired famous band with all the money i need, i actually would totally agree to take my friend's kid's high school band on tour without even listeningg to them. Id be like "hey yeah thats a cute idea!"
I just wish more of these nice family friends would crack down on the nepo band putting it in their website bio like"these prodigies have already toured with x and y and are making a huuuge splash on the scene"
No. 1698682
>>1698624girl if what this anon says
>>1697208 is true, that means they're primary to high schoolers. they still have a plenty of time to become pickmes. and they will. Because that's what nepotism and being given everything immediately no questions asked usually does to people, especially in this sort of industry.
They're a new Starcrawler but without being awful brats/attention whores (yet). Pretty sure they'll stay being flogged and promoted as long as they're teens, but once they hit 24+ people will jump onto next "teen stars", probably.
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Been posted in celebricows, fits more here. Julian Casablancas messaging 19yo, and can't say i'm surprised.
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What about this bitch. She's usually butt naked during her shows, yet still a total flop. She has only 9k followers on twitter. Nobody wants to see this shit, not even coomers.
No. 1699843
Any lulzy interviews from sloppy chick?
>>1699837lmao you just cans see these ppl think "how did i even end up here in the first place"
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ewww noo. somehow i believe it wasn't a joke…
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>>1699846>>1699843She does it for attention.
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Found this weird article written by Sloppy Jane chick. Her parents are weird fuckups, probably fucking rich too, this fest somehow screams to me rich ppl behaviour (taking your kid to shady festival where she gets sexually assaulted bc they don't care to keep and eye on her). Wtf is even wrong with her, she says teenage girls shouldn't ever go there cause they will get sexually harassed, but she 100% recommends taking your CHILD there literal paragraph ago? jfc what a dumbfuck, she sounds just like Arrow. literal word vomit but she pretends like she's such feminist and makes a lot of sense
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How about these ugly cringelords. Fucking hell, is there anybody on this earth that even listens to Cumgirl8? That is, beyond Surfbort, Arrow and LA clique orbiters?
>“a sex-positive alien amoeba entity.”
>"model who apprenticed herself to a dressmaker on the Upper East Side"
>Vilim, a model and dressmaker, has her own fashion line of day-glo gender-fluid and body-revealing clothes that’s been featured prominently in Vogue
They're all models turned musicians, of course. I tried to search for any sort of decent pics to post, but i really can't. if you google their name you'll see why. all they post are either ugliest clothes you've ever seen, or their tits, or their hairy regions out.
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>>1700029that's some of the most unattractive shit i've ever seen, wtf are they doing to their pics. idk is one of them trans or just built this way?
No. 1700154
>>1700017i've met girls like this and they seem to be faking this edgy avant-garde shit as cope to debase themselves before anyone else can. like acting crazy and gross as if they rejected love and relationships, because they reeally badly fear being rejected. they're always the first to put other girls down or treat someone shitty for not being "cool enough", or avoiding anyone they meet that is too nerdy or straight-laced. they're also the most desperate and thirsty for normie males' attention.
i don't know, i can't explain how other people think but to me they're just pretending not to want validation that that they're attractive to men, while actually wanting it more than anything else in the world
No. 1700158
>>1699793it's cool that she's not falling for this predatory shit (you can tell he's predatory by the fake uwu i am forever alone softboi shit) and is posting his lame groupie search publically
i like her.
No. 1700166
>>1700034what the fuck is wrong with all of their faces
did they escape from one of those inbred amish incest cults
No. 1700408
>>1699837>>1699829>>1699843There's something super funny about how the majority of the crowd isn't even looking at her and the few that are, are somewhere between laughing and confused.
>>1699898>>1699901>"burning man is an excellent environment for children">admits to being preyed on by predatory men at burning man as a drunk tween>so anyway I was bored of drugs at seventeen…Does she not hear herself?
No. 1700414
>>1700408And yet she thinks it totes help her get attention and new fans, especially males!
>all males on the pic looking away, kinda disgustedwe should look for more interview bullshit from this creature, wonder how she sounds talking live
No. 1700471
>>1699829Oh wow I coudn't bear the public shame of
awkwardly stares into the distance/
looks bemused that people are doing. She has a nice figure but there are more artful ways to be naked on stage than this (skimpy costumes, bodypaint, etc) this is just low effort
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>>1700471Everyone is very fucking engaged
>literally everybody in the audience looks awaylel
No. 1700929
>>1700408that kind of weird second-guessing contradictory talk is really common in people who don't want to think of themselves as a "
victim". it's a stage you stay in before you're really ready to process the fact that you were raped. i feel bad for this chick, hate her dad, and wish she had someone she could really trust. "a grownup you really trust" like mr. rogers used to say instead of "parent" because some people's parents fucking suck ass.
No. 1701133
>>1700577These photos are incredible, even the guys at the far back aren't looking at her. Literally everyone is averting their eyes. I've never seen anything like it kek
I feel like her dad unironically fucked up her psychology by taking her to burning man as a kid
>>1699901 like clearly nobody wants this, it's literally flashing if nobody consents to your nakedness. So maybe all those unconsenting experiences she had with weird drunk/high dudes as a teen gave her warped ideas about boundaries.
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>>1701135These two guys are my favourites
No. 1701263
>>1700929>>1700930I thought of her naked stage nonsense more as her way to be "original" = disgusting and "sexy" and rolling around like a maniac smearing fake blood etc. Just like Cumgirl and Dani Miller and all these other attention whores who think they're most OG altest girls to alt.
I have mixed feelings about her, like she both seems like a usual cringey snowflake and both a woman whose behaviour is sadly obvious effect of her bad experience. Girl for sure was endangered by her fuckup dad festival happenings are imposing on her lack of self now, with all the male gaze thirst and spitting nonsense in article. i wonder if at the festival she also partake in hippie drug practices and listened to some ideological bullshit which influenced her aswell.
No. 1701793
>>1698624>Racist, sexist boy>You are a racist, sexist boy>And you have really dangerous toys>Fake dance, shoot and destroy>You are a racist, sexist boyUnrelated but am I the only person who thinks that these lyrics suck kek, I'm assuming that this was probably written by one of their record producer dads and it's making me kek even harder
>>1701700Idk about all that but she definitely got 'chosen' because she's a conventionally attractive racially ambiguous non-controversial figure, which makes her the perfect product for the zoomer demographic.
No. 1701897
>>1701700I found out about beabadoobee back when she had only two songs out so I think I can provide some context. What people forget is just how important the youtube algorithm is. There was several channels that posted indie songs and her song was posted there where it gained thousands of views. Now I don't think she really blew up in popularity until some soundcloud rapper sampled that song and it went viral. I don't care about her enough to know anything about her label nor how she is promoted to say whether she's being pushed in the industry since like
>>1701793 said she fits perfectly for the demographic but I find the accusations of everyone being a nepobaby ridiculous just because you don't know how they blew up.
No. 1702085
>>1701793>she definitely got 'chosen' because she's a conventionally attractiveTrue, i feel like the only reason she got chosen is because zoomers always follow any asian starbucks girl gone alt pretty girls.
>Idk about all I care. I'm just really done with how 99% of "punk" and people promoted nowadays are always nepotism babies or super rich kids with tv producer/record label/big oil parents. they were always normies who were popular at school, were spoiled by parents and never experienced anything bad, yet but they larp as such punks and broken sad girls uwu. most of them are self-obsesseed pickmes who tihnk they're better than everyone and are huge assholes to other ppl just as a power move, and those who aren't mean they're still usually most fucking transparent, boring people alive. i'm yet to come across ANY nepo baby with good music yet too. these people have absolutely nothing to offer besides maybe meticulously crafted visuals on instagram. i just think and it's awful bc it shows punk/alt music has nothing to do with honesty or openess, and these people are taking someone's places. promote talented people who don't have famous parents at least once, for a change.
No. 1703182
>>1702085I agree with you so much anon. As someone who is a millennial, when you compare the indie/punk/grunge type bands from the 90s and somewhat early 2000s compared to now, most of the musicians back then were just regular people who didn't come from rich or pampered backgrounds. A lot of them were just outcasts who were either poor or working class who found joy in making music and associating with their respective scenes while not trying to be some big superstar.
Compared to now where it seems like every person getting into making this music are just doing it for attention for their Instagram/Tik-Toks and it just feels so shallow and lacks soul. I'm sure there are still some newer bands out today that are in it solely to be creative but they seem far and few between and get overshadowed by the spoiled normies who have rich parents or industry plugs to get discovered.
No. 1703407
>>1702094I don't think it's unreasonable for people to wonder if someone is an industry plant or nepo. It's the certainty some people have that someone is 100% from nepotism despite having no proof and this scrutiny is nearly always directed towards as you said "indie chicks". I know youtube is more of a complex subject because views and ads can be bought but when some obscure album from the 80s can have millions of views because youtube pushes it everywhere, I can believe it's possible for channels who are dedicated to finding and uploading music to be successful occassionally in introducing music to others. I don't really care because either way I still think she eventually sold out to the industry making lifeless 90s imitations. The sampled song was death bed by powfu.
>>1703182Newer bands that are genuine aren't going to be getting famous because rock is not mainstream anymore. It's not an equivalent comparison to compare artists playing polished, manufactured pop punk trying to get their moment of fame by appealing to current mainstream trends to raw bands from the 90s and 00s.
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It's amazing how phoebe bridgers gets shilled as an indie folk artists when she consistently gets collabs with artists more successful than her. pic is SZA's next album tracklist
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Mac Demarco on the Adam Friedland show
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The singer Stephan Sanchez is getting called out by his ex for being a serial cheater.
No. 1723152
>>1723108She apparently inherited this apartment from the grandmother and it's been rent-locked since.
Obviously the rent and living expenses are covered by the parents. Does that make them nepobabies? Yeah because the only reason this situation even exists is because of the parents fame. She needs to stop larping like a normal person. All these girls are the same; the want the 'normal' label so they can post their out-of-touch, quirky lifestyle and avoid any labelling of privilege. I swear calling a Zoomer privileged will unhinge them, they can't handle the idea that maybe they have a one-up over other people. Just accept it.
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This thread is so dead now, can we talk about this cow? i'm checking up on this delusional plant every once in a while and it's just incredible how hard she tries and fails, she's an obvious industry creation but she's got even less fans than Starcrawler. She started out as Lana Del Rey/Marina and the Diamonds skinwalker jazz cross pop singer, then deleted all traces of that and went on to sing some indie pop peans for Harry Styles (and making "career" on fake tattoing his face on her cheek) Then i think Warner Bros finally plucked her and she had a "punk" record out, which she ditched later bc "pop punk is dead and everybody around her is untrue". Now she has yet ANOTHER reboot with new band of carefully styled hairy scrotes, except now she skinwalks Joan Jett and tries hard to be oldschool hard rock band. lol at how carefully stylized these pics are
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continuing, idk how old is she but looks like she's a millenial clutching at straws and desperately trying to come off as zoomer, with a management made entirely of confused old industry fucks. She herself talks like a boomer, her spergouts on how she's not like other girls, how evil ppl at the label want her to show skin but she doesn't, look, she wears a golf for a pic! (and then posts another selfie with tits out) or how she's a troo artists making punk music in the era when "urban artists dominate the radio play", all were so ridiculous & out of touch:
>>1347767,
>>1347804,
>>1347819her tiktok is a whole other dimention of nonsense, it's so painfully visible that she's a girl in her 30's at the very least who pouts her fillered lips to look like Megan Fox, greases her hair, smokes cigarettes and sips green Monster energy to keep up with fellow zoomer kids.
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she started doing these spergouts again
>I've never been handed anything i didn't work for
lol then how come you got a fucking BMG management album contract right after travelling to USA, without playing a single live show? how come you got shilled by Dave Grohl & plant-friendly co?
>I'm not one of those artists who got there because some guy in a suit picked me from a crowd and gave me permission
no, i'm sure you're one of those artists who got picked sitting right in the industry office, bc mom & dad shilled money overseas long enough until you "made it" in one incarnation or the other
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>it's giving junkie theatre
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>>1724557his favorites tab is full of weird fat fetish shit (and vore, i think????)
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>>1724487Well he's not hiding it, quite the opposite even
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So pumped this working class bi queen is single and ready to mingle with the women and femmes– oh wait
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When cows collide. I think Doja Cat has no idea who these two morons are, but alright lol.
No. 1732398
>>1732386for sure update the arrow thread, if not for us then for danny trejo's sake. he's suffering with that for a daughter-in-law.
OT somewhat i work in music journalism and a senior writer at work commented that many of autumn's friends (indie bands popular with gen x and millenials according to her) who shilled starcrawler in 2018 have not mentioned arrow for years and seem less friendly with autumn than in the 2000s, as if she's out of the indie scene.
but i was born in 2002 and don't listen to any of that shit so i could be getting the wrong message from what i've overheard. No. 1745680
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Posted in /ot/ but I’m going repost here. Can you imagine how obnoxious a conversation between them is
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I think we should add Violet Grohl to this list. Her father is mercilessly flogging her around trying to promote her on every occasion, except it's even more embarassing because he isn't just promoting her band, he's PLAYING with her. putting her on vocals with Foo Fighters and all. Iirc they played some punk song (like a true "punk" she is kek) on Saturday Night Live a few years ago, lately she performed at Taylor Hawkins memorial and some christmas shit, i'm sure they had mroe shows too. which i'd be fine wth memorial since she obviously knew Taylor Hawkins, but for the rest? playing with daddy? cringe af, sorry.
I got Dave Grohl's autobiography as a christmas present and decided to give it a chance, if only to read the Nirvana chapters, but its insufferable. Foo Fighters annoyed me for a long while with their shitty dadrock radio music and the overall dumb happiness vibe which i can't relate to (kek i know i'm bitter), but this was even worse. The book immediately threw me off at the start, bc ofc Dave Grohl dedicated pages upon pages to promoting Violet, praising her for how cool she is, how proud he is all that bullshit. i mean cool, he's a proud father, but why did they slap a handful of promotional photos of her from SNL? They're just preparing the ground to shill a next "punk" nepo baby, they prob waited a while cause she was a teen, but now it's gonna start full time. she'll be the next Arrow (they eve follow each other). This girl does nothing except being a famous daughter, but already has 88k on insta and 70k on tiktok just filming herself aimlessly. not very "rockstar" at that, looking like a typical zoomer ngl.
Idk if she's especially annoying or whatever and the nepo path she's going is nothing surprising, but i just think she's pretty plain and boring and talentless just like most of the famous persons children, yes but she's one of the most boring imo. Frances Bean Cobain in her tumblr hype prime seemed boring and talentless to me, but this girl is total mashed potatoes.
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>>1745794also why is she always making this face
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Jfc imagine being such a narcissist to compare yourself to Nirvana (and Phoebe of course, of course cosplays Kurt Cobain) i mean they're surely on very different levels? You can like Nirvana or not, but truth is it was one of the most influencial bands in the world and wrote a lot of good songs. Who are these morons? I'd be fine if some random fans recreated that shoot, but Phoebe Bridgers & her grimy company playing dressups is so damn cringey, because you just KNOW this girl is comparing herself to Kurt Cobain and thinking she's some generational hero and greatest deepest songwriter. she's already insufferable swallowing up all this "Phoebe B is the new Elliot Smith!" shit with that smug ass self-satisfied smirk
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No. 1749132
>>1749121sorry, genuinely not trying to bait. Just my opinion.
>>1749122I'm sorry but she made better music when dating men, she looked like she showered everyday, too. Ever since she started dating that tif and hanging around these clearly mentally unstable group of tifs, fags and various trannies (if you look at their instagrams, its clear.) she looks like she lost all hope.
No. 1749136
>>1749132Sounds like she's going through mental illness troubles and gaining weight/not washing bc of depression. or she just thought fuck this, i'm not gonna live up to expectations. Idk nothing about her or the company surrounding her so idk how big is their role in this.
>I'm sorry but she made better music when dating menyou know that sounds weird right? it's not dating men that made her music "better". it's not gonna hop back when she starts getting dicks again. her writing abilities just dropped now - happens. especially when you're depressed.
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This is the girl she's been allegedly dating in 2018 or 2019, Emily Bannon. she dated her and another guy who sued her for defamation, just a part of the triangle. i don't think there was any love, just the guy's idea n maybe she never really slept with her. Or shes fine with threeway but not any w/w action nor relation. like okay, she's oohh so biiii, but has she dated any other girl? has she ever loved any girl? its really hard to believe she's doing anything other than just chasing dick and trying to milk the only "cool" brownie point she has.
No. 1749938
>>1749124He's 40 something years old, he's a big boy who can take care of himself despite the emo look-after-me image.
>>1749126I think this is the difference between (don't @ me) early and late millennial artists. Angel Olsen is in the same sort of singer-songwriter genre as Phoebe Bridgers and Waxahatchee but she doesn't go OTT on social media or start preaching to her fans about shit. Ditto Sharon Van Etten.
No. 1750994
>>1750294kek in all seriousness i can't see it
nonny. she really loves herself, kurt never seemed that narcissistic to me
also layne staley is the superior dead grunge artist No. 1751102
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>>1751006seconded, Nirvana and Mudhoney. couldn't force myself to like Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, i don't even think of them when people say "grunge".
All that Phoebe's unlikely An Hero talk reminded me when Lana Del Rey was shouting and crying to the journos that she wants to be cool 27 club member and how she wants to die already kek. good for Frances Bean that she laughed her ass off.
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Her model pics if you google "sabrina fuentes model" really fucking suck. like wth is that shit. Old pics obviously,now she's kinda fat.
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Gayle at the grammys tonight, smh
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>>1752460This one in particular, some weird Japanese schoolgirl bondage type pose. Unfortunately this is the easiest way to get scrotes to pay attention to your music, especially the beta pedophile moids who are into indie music.
No. 1763003
>>1761824i see they're going an insta baddie thot way now that she failed at "pop punk" kek, i mean look at her face.
For an industry plant, she fucked up spectacularly. she's maybe about Kelsey Karter level. I remember My Chemical Romance took her on tour, she was playing after Starcrawler.
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I find it kind of funny that the only way for her to get a short interview anywhere was dressing as insta thot.
out of all these losers she seems to be the least interested in any sort of rock music.
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Guys have heard of this? Something is happening with Brody Dalle, her children were apparently recently taken away from her and forced to be with Josh Homme for whatever reason (despite the fact they had restraining order against him?) Wtf?
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can't watch with sound rn but here's additonal video
>joshhomme of qotsahas used his legal team & finances to harass my family, including my minor children. Having a tiny glimpse into what brodydallehas likely experienced, it’s unfathomable. istandwithbrody- let’s come together February 27 in Los Angeles to support her. banreunificationcamps fyp foryoupagehttps://www.tiktok.com/@onemomsbattle/video/7198227885339970859?
No. 1768148
>>1767933>i'm sure she got caught railing adderall at a party once last year Something i've been thinking about as well. she's stupid as fuck that she was talking about switching up into Vyvanse/getting withdrawals on Instagram. idk, maybe, MAYBE she has ADHD, but she was a bad meth addict through her youth so no matter what it would raise suspicions.
Josh Homme, on the other hand. there was some anon on lolcow who claimed he's having meth parties with Jesse Huges, who's a meth dealer that she ws also buying from
No. 1768251
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Uboa, some pornsick TIM who takes his name from the Yume Nikki character, just got signed to Flenser–the label behind Have a Nice Life, Giles Corey, Chat Pile, Planning for Burial, and other edgy indie rock projects.
https://twitter.com/TheFlenser/status/1625510188433154048 No. 1768297
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>>1768258I remember he had a case back in 00's for beating up some guy, and a law-ordered anger management classes. in 2017 he kicked a female photographer in the face- article related lists other incidents as well.
This is so disappointing bc his music is good but he always looked like sort of a dick for no reason. he's alcoholic as well so over time he prob just turned into wife beater. this is super ironic because in 00's he kicked Nick Oliveri out of QOTSA for abusing his girlfriend… kick yourself now, Josh.
No. 1768324
>>1768251no way this person gets anywhere near indie-famous level even, looks so fucking boring and must sound about as equally interesting. should try to befriend Grimes though, seems like her sort of people.
>these cat head thighswhere's the immortal pink cat ear headphones and sailor moon figurines though?
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Chris Nelson - the guy who was suing Phoebe Bridgers - posted these on his instagram story. Tl;dr: Phoebe weasels into relationships and causes mayhem with little remorse?
No. 1769157
>>1769139samefag, ok i'm reading more into these texts and honestly get lost in all that. i'm not sure about this guy an how true he is, but i will say i 100% belive Phoebe Bridgers likes to break marriages, fuck producers for fame and then use them as a free publicity to either shout abuse, or to write songs about their bad relationships like her idol Taylor Swift, no wonger they're touring together. (the guy sounds kind of stupid wasting paragraphs upon paragraphs on definitions and quotes, like it has to do with anything.)
anyways she's definitely a careerist mean bitch and i'm curious about a person who said Phoebe bullied her.
No. 1769194
>>1769093So it seems like she had all these threesomes and poly relationships ongoing (sometimes two separate ones at the same time) mostly involving cheating for one or more parties, but then did a callout post after the fact about this guy Chris since he wasn't doing what she wanted.
It's a particular female personality type I have come across before, they sleep with literally every person in a friendgroup while trying to be the moral arbiter of all things, and bullying anyone who disagrees slightly. Sex is utterly meaningless to them and only used as a way to create power struggles within the group. They are ultimately
toxic and will never change, but if a woman decides to act like this she can take it very far since moids will never turn down free sex, even when they deeply regret it later like this guy.
No. 1769749
>>1769093This guy seems extremely fake and gay and, like many weak men, incapable of taking responsibility for his
own part in all of this. "Muh ebil feminazis could come for yr brother or father next! She made me fuck her for years on end! She wouldn't love me even tho I gave her an expensive guitar!!!1" stfu.
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>>1768251I get strong "used to have a crush on Rose Lalonde" vibes from this image lol
No. 1770532
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Matt Mondanile/Ducktails got kicked out of Real Estate for being a mediocre trust fund manchild hack musician and a weird predatory creep to several girls, then post-cancellation continues to interact with conspicuously young girls on twitter and an NFT that was a front for a right wing pedophile grooming cult
https://www.thefader.com/2017/10/16/matt-mondanile-real-estate-ducktails-7-sexual-abuse-allegationshttps://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/05/05/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-miladys-but-were-afraid-to-ask/ No. 1770543
>>1770532The guy who made these miladys nfts is the catfishing pajeet who before that used an alias "miya" to create a notorious twitter cult called "kaliacc" which was basically faux-RW pseudo-esoteric discord troon groomers (but the main point was grooming underage girls into eating disorders and self harm, and they mostly pretended to be girls to do that, or so I think).
There was a thread with his dox on twitter, I didn't bookmark it or archive but maybe you can find it if you search for "miya miladys" or something like that. Please note that most of these people know about this dox and don't care because it's not a typical NFT collection, but literally a cult using NFTs to identify their members, and they will fanatically defend itself and its leader, like any cult. I think "Miya" now uses an alias "Charlotte Fang" because this ugly indian man is absolutely obsessed with pretending to be a thin pretty east asian k-pop type girl
No. 1772575
>>1745680So are Phoebe and Bo Burnham confirmed dating or they were just pictured together? Because I thought Bo had a long time girlfriend. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Phoebe weaseled her way into another situation with a taken man, or maybe it’s another weird poly situation. I know she’s been photographed before with him and Matty Healy so it doesn’t necessarily mean anything and I hope that’s the case for Lorene’s (Bo’s gf) sake. Imagine dating a guy for 10 years and he dumps you for Phoebe Bridgers of all people.
I hate women like her. She’s pushes a very cool girl nonchalant persona, but no one who is secure in themselves would feel the need to go after men in relationships. Then she acts all shocked and superior in her lyrics when these guys turn out to be emotionally retarded assholes like…what did you expect from a cheater?
No. 1773778
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>>1773743well Grace McKagan has a "punk" band (kek) making "career" thanks to nepotism and mostly getting scrote attention thanks to looks, but that's all i know. Looks like a typical LA model/thot/nepo kid going to Heaven party, sorry. about as punk or rock'n'roll as LA kids, or Beverly Hills wives can be. i think these pics say enough.
i think i've seen somewhere she is/was friends with people like Lily Rose Depp but i could be wrong.
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>>1773778more examples bc her insta is peak boring nepo kid
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this is her sister. sorry but this really amuses me for some reason, i have no milk, gossip or any source to support this but they look like narcs. Grace also buys followers, for 109k it's really weird how all of her posts get 4000k likes and 40 comments average.
No. 1773840
jfc all these nepo kids are terrificly boring. Rock and "punk" music are nepo bands strictly now. Young artists from poor/normal upbringing stand no chance, and those who are good or have decent personality will never make it. it's not about music or artistic videos or whatever. it's who you skinwalk, who you fuck, how much you sit on social media etc. It shouldn't even be innovative, people will eat it up if only you dress up exactly as Courtney Love or Avril Lavigne or Taylor Momsen or whatever. All these cows have something in common. Phoebe Bridgers, Arrow de Wilde, Lauren Tate, Dani Miller, Pale Waves whoever the fuck, they're all attention whores, narcs or BPD sort types clawing for fame. To make a career online you require to be at least a little bit narcissistic or at least engaged enough to attack social media with your pics, jumping on dumb tiktok trends, hashtags etc. Not even mentioning connections. i'd be embarassed and clueless if i was an artist on record label and manager started insisting i need to make a tiktok and try to get on trending tags (and no i'm not a boomer). And no it's not just pop labels, even some indie ones push it as well which is kind of weird.
Also have you noticed how all the zoomer & nepo bands are all female based / female fronted. waiting for new cringey male cow just for the lulz, all that were mentioned so far are long established oldschool cows.
No. 1774152
>>1773886anon remember to type "sage" in Email field when posting, unless you post new milk.
Yep i read about him in books about grunge or something, didn't know he came from seattle punk scene. Back when they had a feud with Nirvana (because Kurt didn't want to play at Axl Rose's birthday party kek) Duff came up drunk trying to knock over the trailer they sat with his baby in, or fight Krist Novoselic but failed, but then 2 years later him and Kurt Cobain had neighbouring seats on a plane and were fine with each other. These seattle bands tend to like him for some reason now tho. I'll just say playing in Guns N Roses maybe paid off financially but he destroyed himself. seems like everybody in GNR became raging alcoholics, probably because they couldn't stand Axl Rose otherwise.
No. 1774230
>>1774152Thank you!!! Im pretty new to the site so i have a hard time trying to navigate through this.
I think he did tried to get back to his roots or have a touch of his hometown when he became friends with almost everyone in the grunge scene.GnR had drug problems too, not surprising considering the LA hair metal scene is full of that (not that grunge isn't any better).
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Maybe it's not exactly fitting, because Taylor Momsen's long graduated from being a cow and if anythin (she has that idk isolated friendly boomer vibe if that makes sense?) Ngl i like how she looks in this shoot and i'm rahter sympathetic towards her nowadays. But THIS clothes collection definitely gave me a good laugh. Especially the beaten to death "Fuck you you fucking fuck" kek. "Grunge" fuck me, this is peak 2013 American Apparel/Brandy Melville shit, except it's idiotically priced. Nobody that actually listens to grunge or punk would allow to buy any piece of that "grunge collection", except maybe for nonsensical tape.
>What’s always stood out to me with Taylor’s style, and also what’s so critical to R13’s ethos generally, is how well she strikes a balance between conflicting looks and ideas: soft and hard, feminine and masculine, grungy and chic,” says Chris Leba, CEO of R13. “The tension between those conflicting ideas turns a relatively simple outfit, like combat boots and a negligee, into an iconic look and you’d have a hard time finding someone who can evoke that tension as effectively and consistently as Taylor can.”
>“Grunge music meets grunge fashion,” the singer wrote on Instagram.
>Depending on who you ask, the items in the collection are not exactly punk rock-priced, with a pair of made-to-order boots retailing around $3,500, a flannel coming in at just under $500, and our personal favorites, a $295 “fck me, I’m in a band,” T-shirt and $85 “fck you” duct tape.
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>>1774540i kind of wondered about digging up her old milk if anyone was interested, if only because it would be sort of nostalgic efagz/perez hilton/2009 shitty media type of memory lane. she's a good example of someone who grew out of it. i feel kinda bad for her considering how badly Arrow skinwalks her now that she abandoned her old style lol. I wonder what she thinks of it, if she even knows.
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>>1775143sage for old milk.
Gossip Girl
>She left Gossip Girl bc she didn't want to act anymore and rather play in the band, but apparently she was sort of kicked out temporarily bc she was rude on the set. She was then written out for multiple episodes before leaving the show altogether.>Tim Gunn said: ""What a diva! She was pathetic, she couldn't remember her lines, and she didn't even have that many. I thought to myself 'why are we all being held hostage by this brat?">annoyed the director and the entire crew, bc she was always on her Blackberrykek that boomer anger
>Had a beef with Leighton Meester, prob because of jealousy. Right at the time she kickstarted TPR Leighton made a song with some shitty pop band. Taylor wanted her music to be played on the show, but CW issued statement "her music wasn't ready" and instead took Leighton's shit Celeb drama
>called Rihanna annoying ("People think pop is rock, and the lines are getting blurred. Now Rihanna’s wearing f*ckin’ leather jackets, and it’s really annoying"), didn't stop her from covering Rihanna& Eminem song Love The Way You Lie>had a fued with Miley Cyrus (interestingl Taylor was in top 3 actresses to be casted as Hannah Montana but obv Miley won): ""I'm not looking to be Miley fking Cyrus. I don't care about the fame. I do it because I love music. I like making records and if people like them, then we'll go along for the ride. I think the Disney bubblegum st that the world is living right now is pathetic. I thought we passed that repression.">Miley fired back saying Taylor obviously wants attention bc she's running around in her underwear>"Taylor is so obviously desperate for fame. I mean, she's traipsing around town in her underwear, or is that for the love of the music too? Miley gets a little risky on stage, but she knows that it's a performance, whereas Taylor doesn't seem to know where to draw the line. It's sad, really.">yeah this happened in 2009/2010 and when you remember what Miley did a few years later… kekBand & other
>started off TPR skinwalking Courtney Love. Asked she said she doesn't want to be Courtney Love, she wants to be Kurt Cobain (yet cut her hairstyle and dressed kinderwhore very accordingly lol)>was said to hang out only with people much older than her>switched her original teen emo soyboy type band members for scrotes 2x older than her. They most probably drunk and did drugs together (she was 16), when asked about drugs or crazy parties they didn't deny>her and Ben were said to be kinda cold during meet & greets>made a scandal joking she fucked a priest and wrote a song about it (Going Down)>said stupid shit like "vibrator is my best friend">That flames & stripping naked on the graveyard” version of Make Me Wanna Die video was legally held unposted for a long time, because she was 16 when it was shot. They made the Chelse Hotel version instead>as underager, she turned besties with porn star Jenna Haze. Photographed herself with and milked her promptly for a long time, did this topless lesbian shoot for FHM mag and had Jenna Haze play topless in her music video>had Jenna Haze simulate orgasm for a single (Follow Me Down), first tried to do it herself but her scrotes laughed at her>had a song (Follow Me Down) about a young girl fucking much older scrote, made retarded romanticizing type comments like: >" I was reading [1955 novel] Lolita at the time. I had watched like every [film] version of Lolita. I was very obsessed with the Lolita story. And that’s kind of the inspiration for “Follow Me Down,” the concept of doing something sexually, that is not necessarily considered appropriate. And reveling in it and getting away with it and enjoying all the naughtiness of it.">made a shitty S&M edge filled song about liking to get hit („So hit me like a man and love me like a woman, Buried inside look me in the eyes, I want it”)>when asked if she's going to donate to Haiti (some earthquake crisis at the time) she responded with: "Um, right now I'm trying to just finish my record and getting through the last season of Gossip Girl for right now. So not so much thinking about that.">instead, started talking about perfume: "I like that the scent is a little bit tougher than a lot of the other Victoria's Secret scents that have been out," she explained. "Ya know, it’s just a little bit more masculine which I like a lot. And the packaging looks really pretty on a vanity I think. And I like the little spray, what’s that called? An atomizer. I like the little atomizer.">stupid quotes about how she’s totally insane "I see myself as totally insane. I’m totally moody. Of course. And I’m totally out of my mind. And I’m always myself.">said she’d be fine with getting shoot for Playboy>used to deny that there’s misogyny in rock>got booed tf out in Scotland because she said Glasgow audience is "the craziest crowd in the whole of England" (kek) right at the start of their show. They stopped responding to her altogether but Taylor didn't even notice she fucked up, she only apologized later on Twitter>CDAN said she went to a party where the second youngest person other than her was 30 and was telling everyone she can't drink because she's on Percocet (she was 15 att)>once ordered the hotel service to equip her hotel room cabinet with alcohol. Hotel service refused because she was only 16 and she threw a tantrum>shot a video at Chelsea Hotel, Chelse Hotel's service remembered it that way: "This video was filmed, at least partially (they had to use another room for the balcony scenes), in Room 822 of the Chelsea Hotel, the same room where Madonna shot her famous Sex book. I actually saw Taylor standing outside the room during a lull in the shooting, though of course I didn’t recognize her at the time. (She was wearing the same funereal black outfit she has on in the video, which is what jogged my memory.) At the time I figured she was just another young, pretty model of the kind who grace our halls for fashion shoots and the like. I did notice that Taylor was looking at me as if she expected me to shriek with delight and run over and ask for her autograph at any moment. And I would have too, obviously, except for the fact that I didn’t know Taylor Momsen from Taylor Swift or even Taylor Meade. It could have been my imagination, but I thought Taylor seemed a bit put out that I didn’t recognize her. "
>in 2012 (as 18yo) she sang a song with Marilyn Manson on tv and toured with him for a while. She snaked around him, and he felt up her tits, kissed and choked her onstage. >clearly looked uncomfortable but acted retarded about it for the edge, for a while she was telling magazines "thanks to this she discovered she loves to be choked" >no idea how she reacted to Marilyn Manson abuse news. there’s one article tilted "Cancelling art would be death of society" but it’s behind a paywall>from another interview, asked about MM/ERW allegations: "Honestly, I’ve been living in such a bubble, so I’ve heard little snippets of things. I’m not informed enough to really speak about what’s happening with him. I’ve been doing this, talking about the album, so I don’t really know what’s going on. Speaking from my experience, I don’t think I’m informed enough to talk about it, but I had a lot of fun on that tour. I’ll stop myself there, because I don’t really have anything to say on that."All of this is dated 2009-2014 at most and it's not that crazy, but she was really tryhard and annoying back in a day. Seems like a typical brat talk of an immature teen and she eventually grew out of the edgelordery proving she's serious about her music. Shame that her music is total utter shit.
I'm just gonna say in retrospect, it's kinda shocking how sexual all her photoshoots were. That 1) she knew very very well how to do various poses like that 2) that the media totally ran with it.
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>>1775406Now milk on her parents, i found some reddit post i found interesting… Her mother apparently used her daughters credit card. But anyway:
>stage parents who pushed her into fame at literal infancy, she started acting in commercials & films at the age of 2>Taylor used to flash her boobs with tape crosses on, one time she flashed when her mother was in the audience>said her parents are totally fine with her wearing slutty clothes and getting naked>apparently went to catholic school(? Not sure) and was raised very very catholic, hence all her wooo satanic anti-church Marilyn Manson tier religious riot phasesBlamed her parents for fucking her up - rightully so i guess, but it was as scandal and she was called ungrateful.
>”'Everyone's like, "Wow, why is she upset, and why is she so miserable about things?" My whole life, I was in and out of school. I didn't have friends. I was working constantly and I didn't have a real life. My parents signed me up with Ford [Modeling] at the age of two. No two-year-old wants to be working, but I had no choice."Her parents felt „horrible”, so she had to clarify in Kerrang
>"I love my mom and dad. Maybe I didn't have the childhood people think you should have, but I still went through the ages," Momsen explains. "I was still a child. Maybe it wasn't a conventional one, but you know… I like where I am now, so it's OK. I think my parents have learned by this point that none of [what they read] is probably true, and words can be put in your mouth."Seems she genuinely hated acting and prob that’s where the whole rebel phase came from aswell… Also according to this post her mother is kinda fucked.
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>>1775410Now more kinda recent-ish milk, expanding on what this user mentions about Chris Cornell conspiracy… so in recent years Taylor Momsen (and the rest of the band) was spiralling on drugs for a long while. She apprently cleaned up for now. But the reason she cited was death of Chris Cornell, and then death of their longtime producer. Taylor is OBSESSED with Chris Cornell, and around 2017 her band toured with Soundgarden. She became good friends with Chris Cornell. And then he died, and Taylor was the last person to talk to/see him alive. She cancelled all TPR tours afterwards and got depressed to the point of suicidal apparently.
There's this reddit post with some shit on Gossip Girl cast (i guess it'sfrom CDAN?) and this one's about Taylor. Ngl i wondered about that before. one more thing, she was DEFINITELY not sober on that tour with Soundgarden. she did drugs back in Light Me Up years and then she had that weird face bloat for a good while. The reaction she got for hs death is kinda sus, it's extreme even for obsessed fangirl… i don't know how true is this might as well be bullshit but can't say people never wondered.
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bonus from the same reddit thread, and i believe it bc it's not the first time something like that was said. I hoped she changed now but i wouldn't be surprised if she's still rude. which would make me lose whatever respect for her.
one more gossipy thing i'll add is that she mayyyyyybe dates a woman now. She and her makeup/assistant seem very close.
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Her mother.
I forgot to add she used to boast about carrying and flicking knives and how she smuggled them onto airplane and then they spilled out and it was ~oh so embarassing!~
Also, she definitely wasn't "aaalways listening to the Beatles and rock" like she likes to claim. Not that it matters, but back in her normie Jenny Humphrey days she talked about listening to The Black Eyed Peas, Avril Lavigne and stuff like that.
No. 1776036
>>1773785>>1773784>>1773778all celeb daughters whose dads fucked 15 year olds look like this
like when i see a nepo girl with this appearance, i am confident her dad is a borderline pedo and she had a confusing time growing up seeing all the pics of him with teen groupies
No. 1776041
>>1776032That's… exactly why i didn't mention the tampon string incident as "milk" at all - because it wasn't her fault. it was the media being obnoxious. I remember that incident, and thought it's so retarded.
I kinda agree, NOW i think her Light Me Up album, image, videos, live videos et cetera are quite enjoyable. More: her first album was her only good album. she was a bratty cringelord, but musically it was her only enjoyable era. she should stop "trying to be Robert Plant" or whatever she said and get back to mall grunge songs again.
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Crawlers rage quitted (for now?), because their US tour got cancelled. It's the same industry plant tiktok band that toured with My Chemical Romance and Starcrawler. A band that was handpicked by Gerard Way suddenly doesn't have funds for US tour.
I wonder if it's the beginning of the end, of big labels cutting up funds/letting go of these new "indie"/"riot grrrl" bands.
No. 1776098
>>1776080>>1776082easy, I looked up this (lukewarm) old shit out of curiosity, not to be offended or to make everyone hate her kek. idk if i agree, i mean she's not a cow, but i can see her old antics being mentioned on celebricows if LC existed at that time. not having her own thread, though. i mean chicks from indie bands get posted here for much less, and she definitely used to have attention seeker/better than you attitude (like some of the cows here). which people tend to forget a whole decade later.
If it was true she fucked CC, it's unfair to the woman he was married to att. Phoebe get shit here for same thing. that being said, nobody knows the truth, so whatever.
>>1776082All fine. Not doubting she was affected by it, but I don't think tampon incident has driven her to her behaviour, she was acting like that before that happened. I think it was mostly bc of her age and parents.
No. 1776155
>>1776152and yet both bands that were on AND journalists act like it's so indie & underground, similarly to Sub Pop. Starcrawler for example triumphed like idiot sover getting on a ""major label"" last year (which hosts local country nobodies only but unrelated), as if Rough Trade was some poor indie diy punk label lol.
RT is still "indie" in social consciousness for some reason.
No. 1776228
>>1776170haha the level of delusion. that would be another thing on the list to discredit Starcrawlers fake career.
I checked just now and Rough Trade still announces themselves as "independent record label"? lol kind of confusing. i knew they were bought out by a major but i thought they're still under BMG.
>In 1982, the retail outlets broke with the A&R and distribution divisions, after a decision to allow the shop staff buy out.[7] The distribution wing found itself overtrading by 1991 and shortages of cash flow led to a filing for bankruptcy. The entire company ended up in receivership.>Rough Trade Records was relaunched in 2000 as an independently owned entity, a partnership between Travis, Jeanette Lee (a former member of Public Image Ltd.), and minority partners Sanctuary Records, as a part of the Zomba Group until 11 June 2002 when BMG bought out this business. Prior to the BMG buyout, Rough Trade Records released the Strokes' debut EP The Modern Age in the spring of 2001.[8] In July 2007 Sanctuary Records then sold Rough Trade to the Beggars Group for £800,000 making Rough Trade independent once again.[9] However, it can be argued that Rough Trade is not truly independent as it is owned by another company. Rough Trade is more accurately a subsidiary[10] that is owed by Beggars Group, which in turn is a privately held company not publicly traded on the stock market.[11] No. 1776569
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wow I assumed the heroin addiction shit was just gossip but look at picrel, that’s fucking tragic. She literally skinwalked herself into a heroin addiction for clout with the rockers and their fans.
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>>1776569i mean… i don't wanna be rude or tell she's ugly or whatever, bc she's not, but i can see drugs taking toll on her. When i googled her a year ago after a couple of years i was shocked tbh, how different she looks even vs 4-5years back. it's not just about different makeup or weight loss. not that it's important but interesting to see someone else noticed, i thought it's just mee seeing things.
No. 1778248
>>1775406Ew, why are all so-called “edgy” women just singing about how much they love being helpless
victims? I know nothing about her because I’m a zoomer and her star died a decade ago, but that Marilyn Manson choking thing made me see her as a lolcow.
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can't really imagine what it would be but is there any weyes blood milk out there? I will forever be heartbroken that she's (at least I think) straight
No. 1778891
>>1778862oh sure, I believe in it. the weather DOES change! cos its literally the weather. It's you people who are
triggered by naturally occurring weather cycles and seasons and love to fall into every scam and hoax that comes your way. "HURR WE CAN STOP MUH WEATHER CHANGING IF U GIVE US MONEY IN MORE TAXES HURRRR DURR"
t. government that really cares about you!
Literally a scam. The definition of one.
>>1778807he's a typical band scrote. loved to hang out and have sex with with teenage fans as a 30+ year old. There was spicy drama some years ago with that art crowd Petra collins and her magazine friends. Tavi Gevinson wrote a whole diary about her fling with Ezra when she was a teen and all the manipulation and games her played with her. she seems like a retard herself so I don't have much sympathy for her. You got played by a scrote for free sex, he wasn't doing some big evil plan. Just typical shit. And she was clout chasing by perseuing him in the first place.
Ezra ended up marrying a slightly older woman and having a child which is kinda based. It should be a lesson that these males are not taking any of these young bitches they sleep with seriously. you mean nothing to them. they are masterbating with your body and when they are ready to settle down they will get a FULLY REALISED WOMAN.
No. 1779142
>>1778891>>1778914I wish Tavi would just #metoo him already instead of writing vague articles about their relationship without naming him. I know she says she has her reasons, but I feel like there is something else going on. Like he has something on her or she just doesn't want to admit she was clout chasing in the first place because it would go against her feminist image.
Also, is he actually married to Rashida Jones? I feel like he just refers to her as his partner or girlfriend. In the previous discussion here, someone mentioned that he cheated on her and must have some arrangement or understanding of an open relationship (?). There seems to be something off about their relationship, and I can't put my finger on it. My best guess is that he is just a fuckboy, and Rashida just wanted a baby and got one out of him. Rashida seems messy too, but she is still way too good for him.
Lastly, I was initially surprised about him hooking up with young girls at first. I figured he would be canceled by now especially after Tavi's stories were published online. I thought he was just a serial monogamist and had long-term girlfriends that seemed pretty normal and chill (I think one ex-girlfriend was VW's manager during the Contra era?). I also heard that he had a thing for ethnic/mixed race Asian girls back in the day.
VW hasn't been good since Rostam left the band. I thought Father of the Bride was mediocre at best and definitely not worth a Grammy.
No. 1779279
>>1779242more on this, she was asked about the choking incident in 2021 but this interview is behind paywall so i can't check, but from reddit:
>Taylor Momsen said in a recent Telegraph interview on February 12 2021, that the controversial performance she did in 2012 with Marilyn Manson was entirely consensual. She went on to say he never physically or sexually abused her. In her own words she said: "That was entertainment. Music and sexuality go hand in hand and you can't judge a performance like it's reality. Cancelling art would be the death of society.">Eddie trunk ask her about this show and she said he never badly threated her.She absolutely looks fucking uncomfortable in that video and i don't think it was planned. Normally i'd agree with her stance but not entirely. What if he suddenly hit you in the face full force onstage? would it be still consensual S&M entertainment that goes with music? Absolutely disappointed in Taylor Momsen now and makes me rethink saying that she's not a cow.
No. 1779415
>>1779279i'm of the stance that she's a
victim of the industry, and that manson somehow convinced her that the choking was fine, but it's like she still hasn't grown into realizing this shit isn't okay, as if she still idolizes the worst parts of the rock and roll scene. saying this as someone who enjoyed tpr's music (although i found her image concerning even then). i don't think she's necessarily a full blown cow but lacks the charisma and presence that some of her same age peers/ex costars have, even on social media she posts like a boomer. like trying to be edgy is all she knows how to do. had she had any semblance of a normal life or made normal friends instead of hanging around much older scrotes i'd like to think she would turn out less fucked up and more aware of how concerning this all seems to everyone on the outside.
No. 1779437
>>1779415yep you're probably right. she was a child growing up in the industry so who knows what happened to her before. it's sad she idolizes all these men who slept with teens and whatnot. i mean, she's hollywood product, i didn't expect her to turn out normal especially when you have parents who profit on you since you're 2yo, but i really expected she'd come to some conclusions now that she's 30. it's funny that she said she's cringing at her 16yo look choices, but doesn't cringe at that Manson worship which imo was infinitely more embarassing than stripper shoes. but oh well
>even on social media she posts like a boomer. kek i had the same comparison in mind. idk how tf it turned out, from edgelord angsty teen she went kinda boomer, i can't even explain how.
No. 1779449
>>1779279She definitely looks uncomfortable with that performance but you can easily tell his grip was not tight and that looks like a very tame play choke. The way you nonas described it I was concerned and literally thought he grabbed her by the neck and choke slammed or some shit but that just looks like a silly mime to me. He is still an ugly disgusting
abusive piece of shit though.
No. 1779485
>>1779437maybe it's a stretch but this is what i'm thinking: that it may be largely due to the people she's still surrounded with and whatever environment and headspace she's in, she's too deep into it to see any reason to break out of it and i don't think she pays that much attention to what people say on social media or their criticisms either, instead thriving off on the idea of her seeming edgy. she sort of grew out of the teen angst but still has a bit of the tryhard edginess, i feel like. i don't think a healthy mindset can come out of what she's grown up with and is still being influenced by. she doesn't really seem to get called out or is shown concern by fans, which isn't that large of a group but the vocal amount she does have tend to idolize her (or in the case of moids, sexualizing too) just as much as she does the lifestyle she's trying to emulate. and because they don't have mainstream fame, people don't really pay attention to her or tpr.
tbh i don't mind the boomer posting kek. but i feel like that's also a result of being around a bunch of older men who are out of touch.
i just feel sorry for her, for the most part. to me it seems like she's too influenced by all this shit even at 30.
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>>1779451Ayrt, yeah i see now that shes lost a lot of weight since whenever this was taken, and maybe she just aged that way. As for drug use she confirmed she was using consistently before new album
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also unrelated to previous discussion but good for her for ditching these rough barbaric sharpie-penciled black eyebrows. racoon can stay, just never bring this combination back
No. 1779520
>>1779485that's possible. i was always sort of irritated that she said male voices are better than female, or idk, something like "its not that i don't like women just all the best songs i listen to were written by men" or what. i can't really find exact quote anymore. Or "no no i'm not Courtney Love i wanna be Robert Plant, i think i look more like Robert Plant that Courtney Love right guy? right?" girls stop
and yeah she doesn't seem to have that much of fans anymore. i mean yep she always has #1 hits on rock Billboard and she's well known, but… i'll be honest her fanbase was larger in the beginning, then diminished ad i think it'll never recover to what it was. I remember all the Momsen headlines, fansites, fangroups etc. now i can find none. She claimed she's embarassed of that time a few years back, but currently she posts quite a lot of old pics, started wearing ugly night slips again and even said she wanted "DBR&R" to be like "Light Me Up" (which it isn't). i feel like she wishes it was like it was then again, hence slowly introducing some sort of edgy shit again but not fully either so it's not working much imo.
but still i look at her way more sympathetic than i did before tbh
No. 1779559
>>1779520yeah i agree, she's definitely said some questionable stuff and a lot of what she does or says i don't agree with, although to me it looked like many of those kinds of quotes came from a place of ignorance or merely trying to rile people up. among all the celebrities that can be deemed pc/woke/socially aware (or attempting to be), i don't think she can be put into that category. and i think the quote, i'm not sure if i'm right at all but it remember it being more that she looked up more to kurt cobain than courtney love and was trying to be more nirvana than hole? or something like that. and courtney didn't like that she said that. but i'll have to look further into it. i'm pretty sure the two women were being compared to each other too so that didn't help.
i agree that dbr&r is definitely not like light me up. i think i might have grown out of liking them but i didn't like this album as much aside from two songs, whereas the last album who you selling for grew on me after a few years. although i've felt that tpr lyrics have always been somewhat weak and i think that contributed to me losing interest
unfortunately i feel like most of the schticks she's been trying so far still won't earn the band any significant level of fame so it would make sense if she's yearning for the old days. like i said it doesn't seem like she has as much charisma as other celebrities her age and honestly comes off a little prickly at times, her image isn't going to appeal to the general public. i do wonder that if there's some sort of hopefully better change they might finally get more recognition.
No. 1779612
>>1779559i will reply in parts because i want to add specific pics and videos to my post
> i think the quote (…) being more that she looked up more to kurt cobain than courtney love Yea she said that, but in relation to a different question. One you mentioned, "i don't wanna be Courtney Love, i wanna be Kurt Cobain", the one about men with better songs/voices, and one more. Like there were at least 3 different quotes bc she was asked this often, and whenever asked for female influences she snapped it back onto male bands and wanting to be Robert plant/Jimmy Page etc.
I googled a bit and even found that video where they talk about Courtney and when she says "i think i look more like Robert Plant" they go like "mhm ok Tay", lmao. (btw if you want to listen, start at 1:34 so you can hear her band going on how "Taylor's been writing & searching for the right band for years and years and years", kek. she was literally 15 when she went to the studio, what years.)
i mean sure, there's loads of male bands undisputably better than Courtney (lol), but i thought it's stupid she can't just reply for once and mention a female artists that she likes. idk maybe she changed her view now, like she admitted she sees the misogyny in rock now vs what she said as a teen.
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>>1779612continuing, she copied Cherie Currie and was lucky enough to build up a somewhat more personal trademark/recognizable style over time (like, this "expensive stripper + panda eyes" is instantly associated with Taylor Momsen even now, and she's directly being skinwalked by idiots like Arrow). so she managed to work it into "her" style. But truth be told, Courney Love comparisons weren't baseless, because in the very beginning she definitely ripped her off. before LMP she toured with different band & different songs which float in the web as unreleased studio and live pieces. guess she realized quickly this won't pay off but "CLove influence" theme still lingered after her
No. 1779631
>>1779618(cont.) for me Going To Hell is what grew on me, Light Me Up i like in its entirety because it's more punk/grunge inspired, even when the outcome is sugarpop rock. And they had good hit-like songs that are catchy, but later on they completely lost the ability to write anything that's not some weak "i slap on some modern rock melody and pray it's enough" song no 171727. (Death by RNR, And So It Went, Witches Burn etc.) i can't stand 3rd album besides a few songs, too much "we're so mature this time, even bluesy now" vibe. it falls so flat with these childish lyrics. (and that odd ugly scribble drawing as cover…) Some of her lyrics are repetitive or lead nowhere like Rock and Roll HEaven or And so it went. some random children start a riot and then… what? that is that? eh.
i feel like they should revisit the earlier songs and maybe even unreleased demos to gt inspired, but i doubt they will. "Heart" could be a nice single
No. 1779719
>>1779612thanks for sources, i wasn't 100% sure myself and it's nice having a level headed conversation with someone who knows about taylor.
>she admitted she sees the misogyny in rock now vs what she said as a teen.it's good that she realizes that so at least that's a start i think. but i agree i wish she said more about any female singers she might look up to as well. at least she seems to get along with some, i've noticed with lzzy hale and i can't remember any others but i think there were a handful.
>>1779618oh yeah, i did somewhat agree with the comparisons tbh. i feel she's been inspired by many who were significant figures in rock but looked more towards the males to be influenced by instead of giving more kudos to the women who would have been more relatable to her.
>>1779631i'm the same with going to hell and light me up. the hit me like a man ep had a good sound as well imo. i felt the same way with who you selling for at the time of its release but it somehow grew on me after a long time, probably because i mellowed out a bit more myself, although i can also see why interest dropped. the lyrics aren't the best either imo. i feel like around that time or after they kind of lost track. it's like they don't really have an aim in mind except to release whatever music they can come up with and while that's fine it feels directionless.
>later on they completely lost the ability to write anything that's not some weak "i slap on some modern rock melody and pray it's enough" song no 171727. (Death by RNR, And So It Went, Witches Burn etc.)i agree with this too. they were okay, but i couldn't bring myself to like them that much.
No. 1780295
>>1779719i'm pretty sure she must've looked up to Debbie Harry as well.
she's friends with Lzzy Hale, Amy Lee and i think In This Moment chick maybe. that's all cool, Halestorm and ITM are really fucking shitty bands tho. TPR definitely beat them even with their weakest albums. interestingly, i've first seen Lizzy Hale in a 2003 documentary about Avril Lavigne, random. she went on and on how Avril is great, and was already listed as Halestorm singer. weird how long they've been around until they had any success.
i think Under The Water is veyr good. wonder about that text though, what influeced it
No. 1780654
>>1780295oh yes, debbie harry, i think i remember an old photo of her being posted to i think taylor's personal page? it struck me how similar taylor looked to how debbie appeared in that specific photo. i'd dig it up but i think it was years ago and will be buried by now. and i'm not 100% sure on this but i think they might have met at least once.
funny we should mention halestorm, risking going a bit off topic here but i remember liking them for a super brief period when i was a teen, i do think they have a very generic sound though. i liked their first couple of albums at the time but i quickly lost interest, they have quite a manufactured feel i can't really describe better or put my finger on, stronger vibe of that from them than tpr. i know there are other people that don't seem to like halestorm or lzzy but i don't actually know the milk on them or anything because i was only into them for a year or so. they've definitely been around for a long time but i think it took them quite a while to become in any way recognizable.
back to tpr yeah under the water was nice. the song cold blooded as well. it's interesting i feel that their older songs were a little better. some of the messages and content i don't really agree with but they're somewhat more catchy than the recent stuff.
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>>1780654this one? btw i guess she met Debbie harry, when you google their names both turns out they had a lot of photos together.
i think Halestorm was mentioned in rock celebricows thread but i don't remember. anyways i think maybe we could revive that one, bc one of Manson's accusers Ashley Morgan Smithline suddenly said she wasn't abused, she said so bc Evan Rachel Wood "manipulated her" to do it. this doesn't look good, if it goes like this people are gonna forgive AND apolgize to this fatty…
No. 1781578
>>1781223yes i agree, a rock celebricows thread would be good, although i'm not sure whether it should be revived or if we should have a new one started. i heard of that news too, and it's worrying. would be a good place to discuss this kind of stuff. i definitely believe manson is an abuser.
also taking this as an opportunity to bump as a lot of years-old threads were necro'd.
No. 1781742
>>1781578you mean starting a new rockstar thread or Manson thread? starting a new thread for Manson is a no-no though, apparently. anons wanted and a new thread was made a few weeks ago and farmhands immediately nuked it. Manson postin wasn't banned on rock celebricows though so i assume it'd be ok?
i sort of wish rockcows were on /snow like indie instead of /ot, because it always gets drowned out in vent threads and whatnot even if its bumped. so that's why could be remade. i don't know how much posts are already in rock thread. if we decide to continue old /ot one, you anons will just have to remember to check it, because it 100% will get lost on back number pages lol
>>>ot/res/436372 No. 1786455
>>1780295>ITM is a shitty bandIs it bad that I actually liked them when they first came out? lol Like I'm talking the Beautiful Tragedy era. I was in high school when it came out and I actually remember liking the album. Their follow up album was somewhat decent but not as good as the first inmo and then I fell off the radar with them only to rediscover them in the 2010s and I was not digging their sound at all, sounded very generic and I felt like Maria was trying too hard with the whole costume thing.
>>1780654>I was briefly into HalestormI was as well but it's funny because when I was somewhat into them, that was back in 2005 when they were an unknown band. If I remember correctly, they became a more well-known band n 2009/2010.
But yeah they have a very generic sound and that is what stopped me from getting into them fully.
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I hope this is okay to post about in this thread even if it's different from the usual indie band drama being discussed here. I'm just curious about other people's thoughts on the whole Bluesfest situation with Sticky Fingers. This article is pretty clearly in favor of Sticky Fingers but I do think it sums up the timeline of events well:
https://www.bluesfest.com.au/between-rock-and-a-safe-space/It's hard to summarize for this post and honestly I'd prefer opinions from people who have read into the drama because I'm seeing so many braindead takes on both sides, I just want a reasonable discussion.
On the one hand it's always difficult to believe an alcoholic mentally ill moid is genuinely capable of sobering up and changing for the better, I think he's been diagnosed with BPD and he's been institutionalized at least once for self harm since the band returned from hiatus. On the other hand some of his accusers are very cowish and the actual accusations are so vague and buzzwordy that it's really hard to take them seriously at all. There's basically no concrete proof in support of either side, witnesses contradict the stories of the accusers but all the claims of Dylan's charitable deeds to make up for his past behavior are similarly hard to verify, it's pretty much all gossip.
I don't know, the whole situation just feels bad. Dylan seems like an unstable sperg but hearing him talk about how much it fucked him up to be accused of being every kind of -phobe imaginable when he's Maori and the son of lesbian mothers seemed genuine. It's also just weird how relentless and vitriolic the backlash has continued to be even though his last accusation was years ago now, it makes me wonder if there really is worse shit he's done behind the scenes that no one wants to provide specifics of for some reason, or if there's some interpersonal/band politics drama going on. Or maybe people just see a callout and mindlessly regurgitate it because they don't ever bother to read up on the situation and judge whether the accusations have merit. Any thoughts?
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Mylets Henry Kohen accuses Cathy Pellow of Sargent House of being
abusive towards artists and employees and ignoring sexual assault accusations
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/news/44932/Sargent-House-allegations/ No. 1793979
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>>1793977>>1793978And Lingua Ignota seems to be backing this up
No. 1794081
>>1793979>i am not going to go into detail aboutn my experience butwhy though? maybe that's what that one did to her: convincing Lingua that her relationship wasn't
abusive and her monster rapist scrote ex was awesome dude
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Gonna sage because the milk is dry at this point but the revival of the Alice Glass thread brought it back to my memory. So back in 2021 Mr. Kitty (Forrest Avery Carney / Forrest Lemaire / Echo Strobe) from Austin Texas was outed sexting a 15 year old while he was 29 and married, there wasn't a lot of press back then (maybe 3 articles max, and 2 of them were in spanish). As soon as the news hit he went full schizo and wiped his social media accounts clean (only conveniently leaving retweeted tweets by Alice Glass denouncing abusers). I was there when he did an hour long instagram live where he looked sweaty, bloated, crying and shaking, babbling that he "made a mistake" and that he is getting help with a psychotherapist who told him he is in the "autism spectrum" (which is absolute bullshit, Mr. Kitty / Forrest Avery Carney / Forrest Lemaire / Echo Strobe from Austin Texas has always been open about being bipolar so this autism claim is extremely convenient). The whole live was an absolute mess, looking back I wish I had saved it because is the most damming evidence of his delusion, he didn't explicity admit to WHAT he did but he did admit he did SOMETHING, also mentioned that his mother and husband were there to support him kek. After that fiasco he went full entitled faggot and began tweeting "fuck the haters" and "well how can people say I'm a bad person when I paid in full for my friends transition" for virtue signal and I guess to make himself feel better? (those tweets are were deleted if someone can dig them back up it would be hilarious). Now that he has moved into tiktok and I've noticed his popularity grow very fast. I wonder if Mr. Kitty / Forrest Avery Carney / Forrest Lemaire / Echo Strobe from Austin Texas will use this new popularity to gain access to more underage fans.
on a personal note all these zoomer who are quick to denounce and cancel people over tranny shit proudly blast music by ethan from crystal castles and mr. kitty, both known pedosNews article link:
https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2021-07-08/after-dark-singer-mr-kitty-exchanged-explicit-messages-with-underage-fan/The reddit combo link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalcastles/comments/oa7li7/the_big_difference_between_the_crystal_castles/His socials link:
https://ffm.bio/mrkittydmAll this info is on public domain so don't come at me with doxxing conspiracies kek
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Still can't get over the fact that this dick flashing guy is Sarah Bonito's (of Kero Kero Bonito) boyfriend
No. 1867870
>>1867610Yes, finally an update on this thread, we really need to look out for updates on these indie cows more. This sounds so fucking pathetic, "stealing her look" when they skinwalked Kat Bjelland & Courtney Love down to jacking album covers and scenes/locations from videos, posing with Nirvana albums etc
They're really a nichest of niche unpopular skinwalker bands with maybe 10k followers if i'm being generous. imagine haaving such ego kek
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Boy genius' reaction to an Obama rec
No. 1869220
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>>1869154These are good songs but most are really old and overplayed, looks like some oldies radio station. More of an insult to be put alongside these nursing home faves since we know no actual human music fan compiled this list and it's just some random selections of old and recent hits
Aside these women do not have the it factor
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>>1869224her lookalike is unironically elizabeth ii
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>>1869154Is there anyone who isn't like 12 who thinks this is badass
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>>1869941lucy dacus has a history of tweeting things that are more fitting for a private account or close group of friends; picrel. she's very talented but i wonder if she feels overshined by the other boygenius members in both solo & group work just because they're younger and more conventionally attractive.
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Adding a new cow to this thread Glume aka @babyglume aka Molly Marlette
>>1821421 Infamous for ridiculous photoshopping and botched plastic surgery
>>1864742 Currently “stuck” in Paris and launched a GoFundMe asking her fans for $9k because her music flopped and she won’t get a real job
>>1866818 Apparently this is her 6th GoFundMe where she asked fans for money
>>1869802 Is / was signed to Italians Do It Better but is sperging out on Facebook claiming that this is their fault
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>>1870768it’s def nepo baby central. her label got her in good with sean lennon and that’s how she got a feature from him but i think they finally dropped her
nitpick because all labels buy their artists vanity metrics but this is sooo embarrassing. bragging about her views on IG but 100k views and 750 likes? on a collab with sean lennon??? the math isn’t mathing…she doesn’t have any real fans, it's a rich kid circle jerk
No. 1871580
>>1871540what happened is that she's a grifter with a plastic surgery addiction and the label kept losing money on her flopped career so she had to panhandle online
also…heavily debated in influencer circles if she's actually sick but of course no one could ever publicly question that
No. 1871624
>>1871580After reading her instagram captions and seeing her unshooped face in her videos, (nothing like the sadbbgirl promos) I believe she is sick, she's underweight, no muscles, loose skin and low energy. 35 apparently, she was probably overdoing it for fame and money and got neither. She doesn't strike me as a panhandler, just someone who is genuinely sick who also has an image to keep up and flips between the two, she says as much in her captions. It seems to be a heart issue where doing too
little is also dangerous (I assume because your heart could stop) or I'd think she needs bedrest for a few months. There's definitely an element of dramatising it slightly for content but imo everything she's posted about her illness seems legit
t. previously a chronic illness person myself
No. 1871668
>>1871624i want to be give her the benefit of the doubt but this is the 6th gofundme she's made. I believe she's in trouble but she asked for money for a wedding, money for an oxygen tank that hasn't been posted in over a year, all while getting a $15,000? nose job last year and new fillers every 3 months. also if she's as sick as she says why would any reputable surgeon operate on her?
I think at the very least she's taking advantage of people's good will
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>>1872239I don't know if she's a nepo baby. She did do voice acting when she was younger. I can't find anything that suggests her parents were involved in the music industry. If she grew up in SoCal they're probably rich but…
No. 1872930
>>1872239I don't think she's a nepo baby because she's been grifting for years. She hangs in those circles tho. No one will tell you where they get their money in LA, it's usually parents or sugar daddies.
>>1872242She used to be so pretty. Really sad
No. 1873227
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I've been reading on this person and can't decide if it's attention seeking cow faking/exaggerating/cashin in on illness, or genuinely ill person with mental problems. Either way, she seems oddly miserable and pity inducing. She destroyed herself with plastic surgeries, was given a contract and clout from LA nepo kids for some reason just to be sort of forgotten quickly after(?) and seems like her ""child star past"" is lingering after her. It's clear it was damaging to her in some way (understandable if she had a rabid stage mom like she claims), but instead of moving on, she's building her whole adult career on that. She stylizes herself as a mix of Shirley Temple and Marilyn Monroe (sometimes she looks Kathy Parkavenuepinup tier when she tries burlesque look lol) and behaves sort of like one of those Melanie Martinez adult baby kind of cringelords, except she's way way older than these. Idk how old she is but looks 35-40 range, probably thanks to that botched face she carefully photoshops into adult baby child star, but she looks drastically different in videoclips. The constant ebegging makes me think she can't count on her parents and she's being dropped by her labels as she cannot build any real fanbase. She doesn't seem to have any meaningful actor connections either, she just provided voice to 102 Dalmatians and whatnot, 15+ years ago.
I'm wondering if backstory she sells to media is true. if not it would be very milky.
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>>1873227clear photoshop vs reality… i know she seems to have this "child star" theme but not gonna lie this babyfing herself seems kind of creepy. Not really fond of this whole concept, seems like she's stuck in the past and trying hard to hang onto that child actor past to preserve remnants of youth or whatever.
No. 1873244
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This edit is especially bad, she literally shrunk her head.
No. 1873245
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This article is so weird, what was that for? Also she has a video in which she sits in a bathtub and her boyfriend i guess (?) showers her and washes her hair bc she's too weak. Why would you film this for insta?… idk this seems kinda odd to me but ok
No. 1873254
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Okay i read an interview in Rolling Stone and i'm convinced her backstory is bullshit. She could have a narc mother but i feel like she's making up a good deal of this, especially the tragic "my mom fed me amphetamines" kek sure jan. Is this the 60s?
>There’s little Harlow loves more than watching biopics of these types of women: Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland, Pamela Anderson.>In the 90s, Glüme Harlow watched a biographical movie of Judy Garland which depicted how Garland helped her family buy a house>Her mother fed her a concoction of drugs to keep her awake through the day for auditions >I was just chugging bubblegum medication, amphetamines, sleeping medication.” https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/music/features/glume-former-child-star-making-music-about-her-own-painful-upbringing-27240/ No. 1873298
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>>1873227the fucking beret jfc. and every other post of her has and breton shirts and even edith piaf songs in the background. she truly goes for every retarded tourist sereotype.
how retarded do you have to be not to notice that literally no one i paris walks around in a beret and sriped shirt?
also judging by the places she films herself in and the look of her flat, she clearly has a nice posh pad in the historic centre. if she can afford a place like that she sure as hell doesn't need a gofundme for five grand
No. 1873316
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>>1873298Could it be she's well connected nd has a lot of money, but keeps up the gofundme shit to fit her woe is me, i'm a neglected drugged up child star my mom is a narc!! story? Scrolling a bit further down her IG i see she had quite aa lot of promotion, and was running around specific LA nepo spheres (same circles as Arrow de Wilde, Dani Miller etc).
Also all that Judy Garland/exploited old hollywood Shirley Temple tier actress story doesn't explain her actual body of work. If she had so much of audiences and work to do, where's this impressively demanding work? All she did was voice acting (picrel)
No. 1873366
>>1873245>>1873254the craziest part about these articles is that she has a VERY good publicist getting her these BS fluff pieces and publicists are extremely expensive. who's paying for that? publicists are at minimum $2500/month but good ones are $10k+. how are you paying for a publicist but also can't pay rent?
>>1873298GoFundMe was for $9k actually lolololll
>>1873316ya she has no real acting credits. fishy backstory and this only came out during this album cycle which is conveniently titled "child actor"
No. 1873379
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speaking on @babyglume…she took all of the videos down but I pulled this from FB for proof.
at the height of BLM she used to have a youtube channel where basically she read black feminist literature literally laying in bed in lingerie with a marilyn monroe baby voice. and when no one watched it, she starting buying ads for the videos. virtue signaling libtard bullshit
No. 1873383
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>>1873379similar video on her instagram. this is how she used to get followers online
https://www.instagram.com/p/CB1tzURjd_k/ No. 1873661
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The ~i have no money~ is annoying af. People with no money don't rent expensive looking rooms in Paris. People with no money don't afford sponsored Rolling Stone articles. Nobody bands with no audience just don't get that kind of promo, unless they're getting popular on Tiktok/in art circles, or unless they'e Starcrawler and have insider mom or dad.
Also lol at Shirley Manson in comments. Really curious how she became such buddies with that LA circle.
No. 1873958
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I'm so confused. "My record label left me broke, I need your money" but also "I'm putting out a song with them next week" …?
No. 1874022
>>1873958>our whole life was turned upside down by record label please shareThe gofundme doesn't mention her record label at all. Also says she has lost her LA apartment which apparently is not the case since she just moved back to it.
I found another gofundme from 19 days ago for a few hundred for a wheelchair, but then she got a new, seemingly better quality red wheelchair which I assume she just dumped in Paris since she hurriedly moved back to LA (after funding her flights on gofundme for 9k)
At first I believed her story but things are not adding up, she needs a chair but then posted that she was looking forward to being cleared to tour on Monday? It's not adding up at all. I think she's a munchie and is exaggerating her condition for sick bbgirl points, and most people aren't gonna read much into it or realise it doesn't add up. There is another gofundme for 3k for an oxygen machine from a year ago.
So you need 3k for an oxygen machine but all those doctor appointments and hospital appointments are free I guess? The things she chooses to fund are
sus, maybe she didn't actually need an oxygen machine hence having to buy it separately, it seems to not be anything to do with her doctor from the description.
Also the point anon made about PR, How do you get recommended in Rolling Stone and also random articles like this without paying?
>>1873245The drugged up child actor shit
>>1873254 is literally Judy Gardland's history stolen wholesale, being "girl" in nausicaa
>>1873316 doesn't count as child acting imo, voice acting is very different from being paraded around like Drew Barrymore was. voice acting is famously the most pleasant acting job too. Definitely a grifter, she nearly deserves a thread of her own imo since she's quite active online.
No. 1874094
>>1874022there's actually been 6 gofundme's in total. anon shared this before the increase on her latest campaign, so I think it's over $20k in total at this point
>>1866818yeah she hasn't been photographed with the oxygen machine since that campaign ended. out of curiosity I googled how much they cost and I don't think they're $3500. i'm seeing listings for $500-2500 and the upper end would be top of the line
No. 1874148
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>>1873295>i think she fell in love with tragic stories of exploited old hollywood women and is doing anything she can to invent that image for herself.Definitely, though the extent of her invention is a collage of Ice Ice Baby tier sampling of her inspirations' stories, images, and aesthetics. As
>>1874022 pointed out, the overworked and drugged child actor is 100% lifted from Judy Garland. And for anons that don't know, her stage surname is almost certainly taken from fellow Old Hollywood tragic figure Jean Harlow (picrel), who also had the nickname "Baby".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Harlow(Normally one would consider "Baby" as perennial and generic enough to not necessarily be connected but between Harlow and the platinum blonde >>1873383 and in context of other wholesale lifting I'd wager it is).>>1874022It's so funny to me to so heavily borrow from the life story of a talent like Judy without having the same virtuosic vocal ability or body of work. At best you make yourself out to be a fan (with enough narc tendencies to make said fandom about yourself). But while making such a connection may speak favorably about your taste, it also invites comparison and can draw attention to the areas in which you lack. Reminds me of when Animal Collective put out Merriweather and next thing you knew it seemed every magazine etc wanted to ram the Smile and Pet Sounds comparisons down your throat, because
checks notes it was psychedelic and had vocal harmonies… nevermind the composition, or actually being able to sing the harmonies outside of a studio setting with a million takes and production, but I digress.
No. 1876124
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another music video where glume pretends to be marilyn monroe. she's so brain damaged with tragedy fetish, it's sick
No. 1881248
>>1881039yeah the label was definitely losing money on her, her numbers are shit and they definitely invested a lot in PR to get those lists
they cancelled her tour too
No. 1886837
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This probably belongs here - not a lot of metal in this thread, but the drama has all the ingredients of a good lolcow - race faking, online slapfights, deleting comments, and grifting.
short summary:
>in 2022, a band called Blackbraid gets really famous really fast out of nowhere, and purely on social media.
>the only member is Sgah’gahsowáh (picrel) and the music is "indigenous metal" inspired by his heritage growing up on a rez in Adirondack Mountains
>le epic redditor hipster metal crowd eats that shit right up, he gets tapped to do the Decibel magazine tour as his US debut and even gets a feature in New York Times as a Native American metal trailblazer
>Last week, he and a bunch of dudes he hired to be his live band, make a live European debut in the homeland of black metal - Norway, at arguably one of the biggest bm fests of the kind.
>in true ignorant American tourist way, Sgah’gahsowáh and the guitar player get ultra drunk post-concert, start mouthing off to security, Sgah’gahsowáh ends up spitting in the guy's face and assaulting him
>they are treated more nicely because they have band AAA passes so they are just politely escorted from the premises instead of spending the night in jail
>both Sgah’gahsowáh and the guitar man stay up on social media, drunkposting about how they were kicked out from a festival because of colonial racism of the white people and demand the fest to be cancelled, apologies and reparations
>festival attendees who saw them rolling around drunk and screaming at bouncers start chiming in and calling them out on their lies, they go full cow meltdown mode and claim asking for proof is also tantamount to violence and that they do not owe anybody an explanation because of their inherent proximity to whiteness
>a video surfaces of the bouncer telling them to go backstage and take a nap because they are drunk, two Blackbraid moids screaming in his face and trying to square up
>BB goes damage control mode - comments are disabled on all of their social media, and the drunkposting has been purged (probably by their handlers)
>but too late, damage has been done, metal news outlets start publishing articles about the NatAm band who got hatecrimed in Norway
>comments start filling with actual Native Americans going what the fuck
>turns out, Sgah’gahsowáh is a race faker
>his real name is Jonathan Krieger
>he is white, possibly Mexican, adopted by a white Jewish couple from upstate NY
>grew up relatively privileged, parents bought him a big house
>no trace of Native ancestry or tribal affiliation
>his entire LARP and PR seems to be encouraged by his wifeager, Ashley, who is a popular Ren Faire OF thot
>comments pointing that out keep getting deleted, but the jig is up, man got Hilaria Baldwin'd
>bonus round of racefaking fuckery - Eduardo, the other moid involved in the altercation is not white, but apparently plays in a lot of Nazi bands on the side.
reposted to add some clarifying details
No. 1886873
>>1886872ayrt, he has been adopted from an orphanage in Guadalajara - very slim chance of him being Mohawk as he claims to be.
Indigenous children getting adopted from the rez is a thing, but this dude is not related to it at all lmao
No. 1886892
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>>1886875tbf you are also right
nonnie, I should have checked his Wikipedia. But he was refusing to give his full name in the NYT article I ripped the OP picture from, so I just ran with it kek. I was not sure if the post would generate enough interest so I tried to keep it brief.
I am now taking a dive into his music and stuff and goddamn this is some cringe bullshit. He is lucky the scene is so overpopulated by racist white moids, anybody with two braincells to rub together would have sussed out that he is a Fauxican fraud.
>song titles like Barefoot Ghost Dance on Blood Soaked Soil and Moss Covered Bones on the Altar of the MoonIt's like this retard asked ChatGPT to write a Native American metal album, this shit is beyond generic and dumb, no wonder all of his groupies are just fat white chicks and redditors.
sage for slight blog but I am also
POC, and this guy comes across as all the annoying diaspora bitches I know, who would write cringe spacebar poetry about their "brown bodies containing stardust and suffering" or "the spirits of their ancestors guiding their way" and all that shit, while being named Tiffany and having finance consultant parents kek
picrel, one of his baleeted insta stories
No. 1886912
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this flavor of laziness in race grifting is almost refreshing in 2023, being Pretendian is a very 90s type beat. Also, Xibalba et al have existed for longer than he was alive, so claiming to be that kind of Native American would not bring him any brownie points.
The entire thing is so obviously astroturfed and botted, and the branding is done by somebody who does not have the slightest idea about being Native. I am starting to believe the tinfoil his (even whiter) wife is the mastermind behind his entire brand, which is ironic bc she is also a cosplayer herself. She started out as a regular type of obnoxious black metal TikTok attention whore, it is frankly impressive how quickly she managed to shill him and herself in the process.
Vidrel is the two of them being cringy basic retards with a "makeup tutorial" in 2020
Lords of Chaos has been a disaster for this scene. Talk about newfags.
No. 1886920
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>>1886903SA, here's some excerpts from interviews.
No. 1886927
>>1886920this is gold nona, the OG version of the first interview you posted claimed he was adopted into a Native family and was brought up into the culture and shit. i guess some people sussed that out so in December, the article was changed to be as it is in your screenshot.
archive.org link for posterity:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220911140600/https://www.loudersound.com/features/meet-blackbraid-the-one-man-project-telling-native-american-stories-through-compelling-black-metal No. 1886928
>>1886837Thank you nona for the good summary, kek. I knew that "native american" name was too over the top when I started reading it.
Also, I'm not surprised he has rich Jewish parents. I noticed a lot of wealthy Jewish people connected to the entertainment industry like to find talent, hook them up with an agency to rewrite their whole image and plan their career, then reintroduce them as someone new and fresh with label backing. This is an example of one of those people in the agencies confessing what they do. Here is the link (it won't inbed with the timestamp for some reason):
https://youtu.be/IrAMPqzEXoM?t=380Little nepotism baby moid just couldn't even keep it together for one concert.
No. 1887247
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It's truly over for indie musicians.
Ed Droste is the frontman of Grizzly Bear and he ahs 500k+ insta followers
No. 1887253
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>>1887247i need therapy from the 2012 Vulture article depicting the Grizzly Bears band as self harming scab nibblers
https://archive.is/lcPAf No. 1887287
>>1887247This is so funny, it's like an april fool's. I think people overestimate the fame of millennial bands like animal collective or grizzly bear, they are bands you threw on a playlist in 2010 but they have no star power or deep cultural impact like someone like Neil Young or Morrissey or Blondie or whoever. Well known but no die hard fans.
>>1887253This seems almost fetishistic, someone should check that guy's hard drive
No. 1887560
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>>1887388I slightly disagree nonners, (usually Mexican kek) moids pretending to be trve aryan Vikings of yore is cringe af, but it sorta falls under the black metal kayfabe umbrella. Those dudes may posture a bit online, but I very rarely see them claiming to actually be Nordic if they are not. It's just a Viking trad larp in service of the show.
These guys however, purposefully pushed the "Indigenous Content Creator" angle and that afforded them more press than a similarly mid whitebois band. Reminds me of Ghost Bath kek.
>picrel, fat white rural US moids who pretended to be a Chinese black metal band in order to get clout. When the truth came out, they backpedaled and acted like it is an "artistic statement", but it singlehandedly destroyed their careers.Hope the same thing happens to Blackbraid, inshallah
No. 1887590
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Not sure if she counts for this thread but does anyone else get the impression Hemlocke Springs is a plant? She supposedly went viral on tiktok for her song girlfriend and now Spotify is advertising her music on Time Square? I like her songs but nothing about her success feels organic. It's always sus when someone with no background in production or amateur music making (Youtube covers?) suddenly comes out with a self-produced professional sounding track that "goes viral." The only background I can find on her is she's a grad school student.
No. 1888143
>>1887653ever since Varg got in jail, Mexican moids with childhood trauma have been the core demographic for black metal, both as bands and as the audience. He never would have gotten the speshul treatment and narc validation he craves if he were just another self-hating Latino with a dumpy white gf, so he went full race LARP.
But you do raise a fair point with the international adoption, I think that is why he started getting into bm in the first place. And possible blog but I went to school with a trailer trash girl who had it really rough - mom on Oxy, dad left when she was an infant and all that shit. She was always telling people she is half Native and she obvi was not. I think it is a coping mechanism, kids with shitty home lives romanticising their suffering to be more aesthetic?
No. 1888985
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>>1873661 >>1873958
>>1874022more glume panhandling. i get the garage sale but still dropping the venmo & cashapp? she's on her IG stories talking about how she made no money from record sales…ya because no one listens to you
No. 1889066
>>1888985Incredible. What is she paying for this huge ass apartment with then? Imagine all the money went into huge ass billboards in LA, exclusive parties with LA washouts, going to Floria Sigismondi parties (iirc?) as well as other known names etc etc etc. She was running in the same circles as Arrow De Wilde or Dani Miller i think. I wanna see all those ~cool LA friends~ supporting her now lol (generously throwing well measured 50 dollars so she fucks off, knowing rich people's generosity).
I mean, this is sad. As someone who likes to write songs too, i can emphatize with art flopping/not getting fans etc. But she's a stupid bitch who lies about her upbringing. Maybe she's truly on wrong terms with her family, but all the stuff about how her parents drugged her to be this Judy Garland starlet, all that story is 100% fake for pity and attention.
No. 1889100
>>1889091Yeah, idk dumb zoomers taken over lolcow and they always shout at me saying it's old & hag and whatever, but to me 34 is young (i'm in my 20s). I get that 39 is a scare for people bc you're approaching 40's, but early 30s are no different than say, 25 imo. Hate how people push this "You're in your 30's, that's old you're expired woman" bullshit, also in music industry. Glume fucked her face with operations, that's the real problem here. Plus her music just isn't interesting, idk what style image she could try instead of this starlet bullshit tho.
I was wondering, couldn't she come back to acting/voice acting specifically? I mean yes, she's not a child voice anymore but she has some experience in that field even if it's scarce, and she could make some additional money. Voice acting seems like a dream job. Just reading script of some child cartoon, that seems cool to me
No. 1889131
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>>1888985Are we sure she is not doing some sort of meta-post-post ironic performance art? As in, is she trying to appear as a botched washed up loser with bad makeup and hair on purpose?
I get that she is trying to skinwalk old time Hollywood child stars, but what if she is trying to be a modern Baby Jane?
No. 1889144
>>1889131I think she's trying to look botched on purpose LA rich, and idolises people like courtney love. It's very white trash "celebrity" aesthetic rather than actual class and grace like Marilyn, Rita Hayworth, Elizabeth Taylor etc like she is not hitting that at all.
She posted some stories from her apartment (I assume that is where her garage sale was hosted) and it's quite spacious, so even if she didn't make money she still has access to money, be it family or her husband's. Plus it seems to be mostly fancy dresses she's selling so it is more like she was playing shop for the day with her friends rather than a real garage sale.
No. 1889208
>>1889131>>1889144Her image, way of dressing, hair and all are probably intended caricature of Hollywood child star stereotype, but i very much doubt she botched her face with surgeries for camp and irony. She must be widely insecure. I'd be okay with her bullshit backstory if there was some subtle hint, some indication that she's only playing a role - i'm not a fan of hers but didn't Marina & The Diamonds do something like that? A drama queen tier alter ego made up for 1 album course. But i feel like the way Glume presents it all is she implies she built a caricature persona based ON her "real" abused starlet past - which we know is hugely bullshit. Like she wants everyone to think it's not a role she plays, it's a REAL tragic past of hers. She could have shitty stage parents nd bad experiences, sure. But she was never a prolific child star methed up by 1930's tier Hollywood studios and stage mom who played her Shirley Temple and Judy Garland nd Marilyn Monroe movies strictly.
I can't tell where the persona ends and reality begins for her, perhaps Glume doesn't know either.
No. 1889481
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>>1888985Wait I'm dying. Literally a day before the "garage sale" she purchased a new pet bird?
No. 1890032
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No idea why Phoebe Bridgers updates aren't posted here instead of celebricows. But for those who reasonably don't frequent celebricows, i'm posting here. Old roommate of Phoebe Bridgers shares some dirt
No. 1890173
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>>1889496She was on Italians Do It Better but was recently dropped. They're ~prestigious~ because of their history but none of their artists are successful and the label is totally broke. I think the billboard inventory that Glume purchased was the same small-ish billboards that Starcrawler had. Seems like a lot of musicians buy from this company. But she also had a MASSIVE one on Sunset Blvd. Imagine you're driving down Sunset and you see this giant botched face
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>>1890033So the person who commented 3 years ago is a Black woman who had negative experiences with both Phoebe Bridgers and Haley Dahl. It's an interesting read to go through these comments.
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>>1890641And here's a mention of Phoebe defending Kim Fowley.
No. 1890779
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Is there any milk on Remi Wolf? I just discovered her because of her Anthony Kiedis song, checked her Spotify profile out and this instantly turned me off her…
No. 1891733
>>1890779How old is this idiot? If she's 14, then maybe we can gracefully ignore and say nothing. No, maybe if she's 12yo and IF it's rawring 2008 and it's her deviantart profile. Otherwise, this is the worst thing i've read, and bear in mind i've read some horrors, including self-written Grimes Spotify and anything by Emilie Autumn. ~crazy bihhh~ surely didn't make me want to listen to her music.
Anons, you need to stop looking for good music in zoomer section, it's gonna go downhill especially the younger it goes.
No. 1891929
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>>1891733Unfortunately she's 27. She also has the tackiest fucking style in the game and brags about making "ADHD love songs"
No. 1893020
>>1890173>She was on Italians Do It Better but was recently dropped. They're ~prestigious~ because of their history but none of their artists are successful and the label is totally broke.Please spill any tea you might have on Italians Do It Better!
Because I am a nona of a certain age I would also low key love to hear any old time Troubleman Unlimited gossip. They burned brightly and crashed hard, but I never heard any rumors, they just fell prey to the classic rise-and-fall cycle of a tastemaking indie label, where they got too big for their own good and diluted their brand by flooding the market with inferior product.
No. 1900284
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Baby Glume made a video in which she admits she uses both lip fillers and filters making her lips horrendously big, which is all ok i guess but her reasoning is a little kekworthy. Yes, you enlarge your lips with specific insta filters bc of anemia. Also press doubt on "i don't have fillers in my lower lip"
Anyways she's selling out her clothes on Depop and Etsy now, really curious wtf is up with her financial situation.
No. 1900285
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Dani is going solo with most unoriginal looks. Anyways she apparently is singing on Miley Cyrus's last album wtf.
No. 1900897
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Lol seeing this just now, copied from Postleftcows/Dimes Square cows thread. never thought i'd see Sickysab there. Sabrina was at some event filled with Dimes Square tards, including Dasha of Red Scare. I didn't expect her to hang out with such crowd, not very "punk rock" of her kek. But she's also bff with Lilith Levisis who's openly rightwing on her IG now. Makes me wonder about her political beliefs
Idk but Sabrina seems to be the richest of these indie cows itt. Dad is a super rich CEO (someone in Leftcows thread said she's related to Nick Fuentes, which idk about) and she's just always, always at every NYC rich people slash high fashion party, getting big modelling brands and adverts even after she got fat, studying and playing with her band anywhere easily, getting loads of cash from mom & dad but playing up that "punk" London lifestyle lol. Extremely connected.
Weird she didn't walk for last Ashley Williams collection though, she sat in the audience and filmed Arrow de Wilde awkwardly hunching and stomping on catwalk instead.
No. 1901080
>>1900593>>1900870Ayrt and I'm kekking at the idea of trying to boost your streaming SEO results by stealing track titles, I had no idea that was a thing.
It's a 25 year old history lesson and no1curr, but Troubleman Unlimited was the local label for a lot of the late 90s/early 2000s Williamsburg scene before it attracted national attention, then got swept up in that hype and started putting out too many releases, even half-assing stuff like the mastering and graphic design. A friend of mine put a record out with them and said Simonetti was kind of sheisty, but idk if that was more so than any other record label guy. I always wondered if part of why he started Italians Do It Better and shifted his focus to dance music was that he knew Troubleman had overstayed its welcome and wanted to start fresh in a different market.
No. 1901718
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Glume did a "live" show recording, this is after her tour got cancelled and she's posted a lot about how she loves touring and such. So I go look at her Instagram stories (still up as now) and she has reposted many stories from different people in the audience. What are the chances that every single clip her mouth is not moving in time with the music, not only is she using playback/mimimg she doesn't even know the words to her own songs to be able to mime to them correctly. Every single clip is out of time and her mouth is not even anywhere close to making the right movements for the words. It comes across like a karaoke gig but even worse because there is no or very little actual singing.
Audience seems to be coquettes and egirls and scenester men. Her main thing seems to be the cute image and she posts a lot of stories about her birds, rescuing a rabbit just now, going to pool parties etc like the music thing seems to not be serious at all which would explain why she seems to have no interest from music fans.
The music itself is whisper-singing coquette lana del rey nothingburgers also, but you could still do something with that live if you had talent. What is even the point of doing a "live show taping" if it's all mimed.
No. 1901945
>>1901718Damn that's pretty bad. Honestly surprised she has any sort of audience attending. Even that amount of fans is pretty small & she's flopping so hard which makes me feel kinda bad for her tbh.
I noticed her fans/followers in comment sections really do infantilize her and treat her as precious little fragile baby that should be applauded for anything bc life is so hard and full of illnesses and disabilities. Which is probably exactly what she wants, considering Hollywood child star bullshit she goes for. I can understand that sort of patronizing reactions which people tend to have towards idols/influencers who are severly ill and doing anything small is a true achievement to them, so ppl want to be positive and encouraging. Problem is, i really really really don't know if i believe Glume suffers all these conditions for real, or if she's a small time munchie. I have no doubts she 100% lies about her fabricated "uwu Judy Garland on 50's amphetamine tablets childhood" so she's capable of faking. Anemia? Iron deficiency? Yes, she probably has them. Idk about other stuff she claimed to have (which i already forgot) so real mixed feelings bout this person.
No. 1901961
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>>1900284the prices on everything is insane but $250 for a soiled japanese schoolgirl uniform (it's literally stained) is criminal lol. it's got to be some weird fetish dude buying this because no "fan" would pay this much for her shit
No. 1905047
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Baby Glume posted a new video showing off her designer clothing. Gucci, Oscar de la Renta, Versace, Givenchy. She's been crying poverty for the last month and JUST had a GoFundMe for $9k so either it's all fake designer or she's a straight up scammer. Whoever keeps giving her money is a chump
No. 1905101
>>1905047Yes yes, so fucking poor and barely surviving in that big ass apartment of hers, with all the worn out, coming apart Gucci and Versace rags! She really should do a new concept album about being poor matchstick girl!
Curious if one of those 9k Patreon pledgers is Shirley Manson lol.
No. 1907846
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Nothing in here about this gem, huh?
No. 1908056
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>>1907846>>1907891he habitually gets a twitter, gets called out or any push back and deletes it. so yes this is one of his many accounts, yes, and he deleted it after this happened of course. thats why the ironic name and all, it's a habit for him.
consider that he also gets any pushback and says the 1975 are going on hiatus "never releasing more music" shit then drops an album like nothing happened months later. its one of his many insecure and retarded habits. not sure if it reaches cow-level of retardation but for sure retarded.
No. 1908107
>>1908056Phoebe never said anything about Healy's antics didn't she? Still praising him.How the fuck did woke tumblr not cancel her yet?
>Matty deletes twitter after Lucy tells him offKEK. Oh for sure he's a huge cow, but idk the whole extent of it besides the fact he's in the Dimes Square scene now and Taylor Swift dated him recently for that sweet sweet periodical attention. He also dated Halsey yeeears ago and Halsey produced retarded dreamy purple prose tumblr post about them doing pills etc, think Nicole Dollanganger/GingerBronson writing style lol. Even then i thought if he dates Halsey, he must be a cringelord in his own right. I wish someone wrote detailed chronicle of Matty Healy's road to cowdom though
No. 1909749
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Oh my god these threads just made me remember THIS fucking guy. Genuinely surprised he doesn't have his own reoccurring thread. The Onision of music.
No. 1911874
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She's officially a BPD cow worthy of /snow, there were some stories about this but I thought they were jokes. I can't think of one reputable indie music artist with a fucking onlyfans, I know there are some trashy popstars with ones which is in line with badly miming her whole "live performance". Idk if it's just nudes or actual porn but I guess the music career is dead in the water.
No. 1911876
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>>1911874Mandatory brag about your onlyfans percentage
No. 1911943
>>1911941Waiting for a new gofundme scam honestly, lol. Has she tried Patreon already?
I really wonder how much money she made on her albums, tours and record deal. Maybe she initially was given a lot of money and she bought a shitton of expensive stuff, but then money vanished and she never made anything on the actual tour/record sale/streams.
No. 1912222
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Look at her fake tiny bird neck. Can't imagine how shooped her OF must be lol
No. 1915968
>>1915781>I assume her husband is filmingi didn't know sge has a husband
Also i thought she's off her record company alredy, she was bitching about the company just a few weeks ago?
No. 1919232
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>>1915781If you're talking about @playgirlrecords that's just some bullshit label she created. She was dropped from Italians Do It Better.
The people on her old label's Reddit page are finally figuring out the grift so I think her music days are done. Looks like she's also been scamming people on Depop and that yard sale lolll
No. 1922365
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>>1919232I think she recorded these in response to those comments, there are 15 fake crying instagram stories "in the shower" where she takes a swig of bottled water at one point, and randomly it switches to her husband talking in a different room for 3 stories and then back to her, so staged for sympathy.
And then to top it all off she messages herself in "support" - DMs recieved are white, sent are grey, all these are grey so she just replied to herself and screenshot it.
No. 1922366
File: 1698803263690.mp4 (8.36 MB, 720x1280, I have to do it weird ways.mp4)
>>1922365She claims she can never post positve things while posting nothing but smiling onlyfans photoshoots for the last couple of weeks, including the very tasteful choice to post a rememberence post for matthew perry followed immediately by an onlyfans promo
No. 1922371
File: 1698803463833.mp4 (530.93 KB, 720x1280, messaging herself.mp4)
Here's her "supportive messages" which she sent herself, with some of her music over the top, fitting choice because you are just hearing more Glume here. It's also not feasible so many chronically ill people would immediately start writing verbose support posts in response to her instagram stories when her likes max out at around 1k
No. 1922466
>>1922371ID
nonnie, given the opportunity to play in the oppression Olympics many “chronic illness warriors” will take that baton and run with it. Just go to any generic Fb group for something like POTS or fibro, ask if anyones had experience with a particular treatment and watch the self history essays come rolling in.
No. 1922536
>>1922466True, it's more that I doubt she has a large number of chronically ill fans who happen to have exactly the same backstory as her
and got through all her rambling stories
and wanted to share lengthy support all at the same time, she gets like 400-1k likes and 30 brief comments on average per post.
like if anything she would have lost them by now since there's nothing "inspiring" to a chronically ill person about doing survival sex work (she even called it that, "sex work to survive" in one story)
They're all carefully cropped to remove any timestamps and the bottom left one looks like she just wrote it straight onto the story. Plus the background colour should be white, just very
sus and lame kek. I imagine her frantically writing "fan support messages" to prove the haturz wrong.
Even in her comments people just write a couple of words and emojis, she doesn't really have a fanbase as such and seems to be pissing off the handful she has by not even sending them the shit they bought.
>>1922485She has such an unpleasantly slurred, lispy voice as well, idk if it's the drugs or the lip injections or both.
No. 1922542
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>>1922371I'm sure she has a couple stable fans sympathizing with her "disabilities" and therefore supporting her/commenting periodically, but it's just so obvious she sent these comments to herself. She doesn't have enough fans, 30 comments per post literally means she has no more than a couple thousand genuine followers and the rest is bought. nyways, anon has already pointed out the white vs grey background ask difference. I think it's so stupid she's making the fuss about these tame ass reddit posts, i'd understand the "internet is mean" rant if she found lolcow for example.
Btw this pic with Chloe Cherry, like a competition who is more botched lol.
No. 1923146
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>>1922536It's crazy how she's fronting like she's "proud" of doing OF when clearly she isn't. Keep telling yourself your smut is "art"…
No. 1925683
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>>1867610I thought Esli was in the band again because Carolina dyed her hair dark again like Esli did after she left Margaritas Podridas. Esli has pretty much stopped dressing kinderwhore style too and now I see Carolina in more y2k clothes like how Esli dresses
No. 1925720
>>1922371this is Billie Eilish singing but I’m sure she loves that people thought it was her
>>1922366>TERRIFIED to share anything goodshut the fuck up you spoiled whore. if her life were sooo bad and sooooo sad she would not be crying about “people are so meannnn”
>>1922536>survival sex workshe could do anything else. she chose this.
No. 1925754
>>1925720>TERRIFIED to share anything goodwell of course she is, that interferes with her brand! (which is woe is me posts only)
>>1925683what are their socials? I've only knew Margaritas instagram, and from what i've seen a couple months back they erased all traces of that dumped chick. Only photos with blonde haired girl. No surprise she's going into y2k now, trying to pander to Beabadoobee crowd. Or like that one bluehaired chick who plays as duo with a Timothe Chamalet looking ass guy, you know which. Fuck i don't remember, their band is called Lazytown or something shitty like that.
No. 1927143
>>1925549she kinda is but I also don't blame her considering just how attached her fans are with relatively little cultivation on her part. I remember in interviews I think after be the cowboy got released she was talking about how she wanted to quit music but she's a massive money maker and has a bunch of albums already lined up for release in the next few years.
>>1925599if anyone has that info I'd love to hear it, pretentious and out of touch sounds much more accurate than an attention whore from everything I've heard from people who went to purchase and work in music now
No. 1937997
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Found a new girl grunge band for this thread - A Void
The singer is Camille Alexander and she funds the band with her onlyfans. Her gimmick is that she dresses skimpy, doesn't shave and proudly shows off her body hair. Touted as DIY band but they were making expensive looking music videos since they first popped up and before Camille even had an onlyfans. On the video for Glum it says: Enjoy our first music video, relating the story of the house we used to live in all together… Rotting food, cockroaches and used pads laying all over the floor.. that's our mojo.
https://www.instagram.com/pansyisinsane/https://www.instagram.com/avoidinyou/ No. 1938049
>>1937997Lmao this chick is insanely cringe, sounds like a new cow we could look for some info on. She looks exactly like a cross of Dani Miller and that horribly awkward Sloppy Jane chick who always walks out naked & embarasses herself to the point where her audience just averts their eyes and wants the floorboards to split so they can just fall underground from shame.
>Rotting food, cockroaches and used pads laying all over the floor.. that's our mojo. >used padsKEK so fucking cringe. yes, go live in squalor just for that ~grunge~ cred. Arrow deWilde can go home with her film set "nasty" crackden stylized house, she never had tje brilliant idea of growing food mold & meticulously placing around used pads as decorations
No. 1938164
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>>1923146Update on this cow: I assume f/m means actual porn rather than nudes/lewds…
No. 1938165
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>>1938164She also edited two celebrities next to her (it was an event/promo/photo op with thousands of influencers) and posted it on her playgirlrecords account to imply association, the delusion is strong with this girl
No. 1938187
>>1938165>kim kardashianOk Glume
>>1938115Yeah,that ostentatious "look at my armpits/oh look i'm spreading my legs much wow" thing is so cringe and overplayed, nothing shocking or revolutionary there at all. Fuck even Dani, who was a pioneer of "look at my~disgusting~ unshaven pits & leg hair~" bs, deleted her hair recently lol. Body hair is absolutely normal, no need to make it into your "rockn'roll" schtick/making it your whole persona like these cows do.
No. 1939050
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>>1938165In case anyone is petty like me here's a screenshot from her Socialblade LOL. Crazy how you gained that many followers after the Balenciaga show (where you were spotted with Kim Kardashian, you're obviously besties) and then immediately started losing…
No. 1950614
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>>1939050She currently has 51.5k followers though it was higher a few days ago, she's been buying a lot of fake followers since these clips where she says she has 37k
>>1922365She has now ceased mentioning her "chronic ilness" which required a wheelchair, is active daily attending various things and posting OF content, and has become an animal hoarder after buying a snake following that balenciaga event, using the snake for her OF content the same day, and wearing it as an accessory ever since while neglecting her birds, rabbit and dog.
Unsurprisingly, one bird has died already, picrel, and she posted a video of the rabbit (only a baby so should be lively) sitting in the dark in its cage, not moving while she pets it.
No. 1950616
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>>1950614Bit where she says she got the snake just because she saw someone else had one.
It pisses me off she frames it as "rescuing" the rabbit and the bird and then clearly neglects them in favour of her new accessory.
No. 1950619
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>>1950616Posting the snake on OF the first day she gets it.
She's a real nasty piece of work for this imo, I feel bad for those other animals who have to see her hawking a predator around in their home, I wouldn't be surprised if the bird died from shock or from getting eaten by the snake.
No. 1950623
File: 1704359160209.mp4 (9.57 MB, 1080x1920, snake accessory.mp4)
>>1950619Also when I say wearing the snake as an accessory I mean literally, video related. This means the other pets in the house aren't safe to come out because it's just right there ready to pounce, hence the bird death being a bit suspect (especially as she mentions it couldn't fly anymore)
No. 1951722
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Dani Miller shilling sex toys/doing sponsored posting? is so kekworthy for some reason. like yeaah, that's SO tempting, she sure makes one want to buy one right. What's next? Use "Surfbort" code for a 10% drop?
I'm missing the indie cows milk tbh, wonder what happened to the insider nonnies who used to provide some indie industry milk in the 1st thread
No. 1951805
>>1951724The snake breeder she got it from is one of the gross dumb ones that gives the different color patterns stupid names like they're strains of weed. 100% vanity animals.
As for the size ball pythons don't get very big and that one is already three years old so it has done most of its growing.
No. 1954024
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More Glume news. She’s dating this Manny Liotta guy who directed her music videos basically a year after getting married. I had to dig deep to find photos from her wedding kek I think she may have deleted them…this guy seems gay, but that’s no different than the husband I guess. Marrying a closeted scrote is another good tragic Hollywood LARP kek
No. 1954026
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>>1954024Samefag - wedding pic, different guy. Peep the tranny in the little girl’s dress.
No. 1954281
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>>1954024 >>1954026
A few months ago she filmed this like 13min video of her crying in the tub and said she had an "open marriage". But ya she deleted all her wedding pics. Husband (ex husband?) still has one up
No. 1954287
>>1954024Eh honestly i thought she'd go 100% into larp and get herself some Cary Grant/Rudolph Valentino tier cardboard cutout guy. This is not reallyit kek
I thought she's married. Wonder if she's already divorced, or still in the proces
No. 1954351
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I know she's large so she'd look like that anyway but sometimes i think Phoebe chooses the most unflattering pics of her bandmate to post & it's intentional.
No. 1954537
>>1954351Kek poor Lucy…
Has Phoebe cheated on Bo yet or do we have another year to go before she gets bored? Also rumour has it Lucy and Julien are together
No. 1955908
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>>1955623I get what you mean. I'm sure the retarded photoshoot are Phoebe's or random photographer's ideas and Lucy just has no choice but to follow through. Fact of the matter is, there are pics from this shoot where she looks much better & she can look pretty nice. What i'm wondering about is, how can Lucy stand someone as insufferable as Phoebe. i thought Lucy seems chill & doesn't look like a snowflake, but maybe i'm wrong.
also i'm here to post this pathetic pic with Dave Grohl. I used to like his old music once upon a time but now I can't stand this man, i despise his shitty music and "coolest guy in rock" reputation intensely.
No. 1955909
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>>1955908also kek, in this photo she looks like she's internally screaming for help
No. 1957166
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Glume looking straight up retarded in her latest OF promo post. Normally I wouldn’t post one of these but did she seriouslg not even look at her own face? Looks like she just got bonked on the head with a cartoon hammer.
No. 1958926
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More Glume panhandling…
No. 1960327
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Her photo edits are ridiculous
No. 1960336
>>1955909Not even internally, this photoshoot isn't even ironic, nostalgic fake bad it's just plain awful
>>1957166She's like the female version of Jared, weirdly proportioned, lanky chinless bugeyed persons who also thinks they are insanely hot and do constant photoshoots nobody wants to see. She does a photoshoot every day of the week it seems
No. 1960347
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>>1958926read: welp my career is shot so who cares anyway, let's just do onlyfans & internet begging instead
>>1960327Omg, the tiny nose & chin. she made her head look ultra small, and it's visible not only in comparison to her entire body but even comparing to her damned hair/wig size.
>>1960339agreed. Looking at her IG account i can tell she looks pretty in a lot of the pics & 100% better than the other two even with excess weight/no makeup/bad angle photos.
No. 1960348
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>>1960347versus Phoebe's IG…
No. 1960507
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>>1957166sartre lookin ass
No. 1960590
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>>1957166Sloth, but make it "sExY".
No. 1960841
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Glume OF promo…why is her nose so red lol
No. 1961773
>>1960339Yeah, personally I think Lucy is gorgeous and her facial features remind me of Maggie Gyllenhaal whom I also think is stunning. Despite not being terribly familiar with any of their solo stuff I love what they’ve done together as boygenius. Phoebe really does seem like a shit person but all three are solid musicians.
>>1961766Iirc Julien is the only one who describes herself as a lesbian. Lucy calls herself queer or bi but I do get the impression Phoebe has a need to be seen as and see herself as the queen bee mean girl.
No. 1962706
>>1962673>rumour has it Lucy & Julien are dating>Lucy doesn't call herself a lesbianMaybe Phoebe just cannot stand not being the hottest, most bisexually bisexual™ to ever bi. If not even being the
only bisexual in the band, lol.
She's just probably mean and jealous deep inside, like afraid of any sort of girl competition in her scene. Arrow de Wilde acts the same way. Both of these girls love to play NLOG one-of-the-boys role but they sometimes like to snap pics with other "famous it girls" from the indie scene and pretend they're besties. But even in these pics they give off these weird vibes like they deep down dislike the others. Phoebe obviously was in the band with Lucy and Julien way before and surely they're friends more or less, but I feel like she probably demands taking up the spotlight/ band leader role.
I'm curious what Phoebe and Mitski think of each other. They're same stale bread and butter default bland music made for girls who are "alt" equivalents of Swifties. They're equally overhyped by everyone and seem to have equally overblown egos so it'd be logical if they hated each other lol.
No. 1963018
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Do you guys watch ethels vlogs?(sage your shit)
No. 1963303
>>1963018No, anything milky? i cannot stand even looking at him. and trust me, you cannot avoid this zit covered moron if you still have tumblr. That being said if someone follows his bullshit antics do post it, coquette threads severly lack any other milk than alida.
>>1963092I'm disappointed that this was never a scandal reaching anywhere other than tumblr. and it's crazy how all the handmaidens and libfems IMMEDIaTELY agreed with anything he posted, just bc he's a troon ofc. Like… have these idiots read anything from that post?
Do you guys know anything about The Warning band? Where did they come from? My youtube recommended keep pushing them persistently and stubbornly
No. 1963449
>>1963422I love it how he tried to spin it how he was
absolutely not talking about women, then absolutely not referencing eww ugh ugly radfems on lolcow, but ~akshually~ he meant he was attacking coquette crowd! Bc… what exactly? I need to look back to coquette threads, honestly lost track of what he was trying to say in his lame ass justification posts. Guess all it boils down to Bacon is that having pubic hair = being a BEaST and a nasty SLUG, can you believe. like what did even
trigger this slew of nonsense kek.
No. 1964515
>>1964320I thought this band has lost its popularity completely even before cancellation and stuff
>He did date her, and 18yo at the time, when he was 30Btw weird how stuff like that is mentioned and considered creepy for some people in the industry, whilst being totally ignored for other (Gilbert Trejo and Arrow De Wilde, or however old were all of Phoebe Bridgers' industry scrotes). But then again, same thing with lesbian couples i guess, wasn't St Vincent in her 30' and Cara De Lecringe much younger when they dated
No. 1964741
>>1964320I know it's old but this article is insufferably retarded in the way only a former aesthetic Tumblr user turned writer could be, she clearly knows like 15 band names in total while trying to make genre references and act like she's really into it "weezer and bands like them" (which bands?) and the band she was apparently obsessed with she saw a whopping two times live. Citing Phoebe Bridgers smashing a guitar as "feminist" (because guitars and women are disposable In the exact same way!!) despite guitar smashing being such a tired cliche that nobody actually does.
Celebrity men abuse women, men, whoever because fame gives them
access it is no deeper than that.
No. 1964844
>>1964647>>1964695i thought Cara was younger & started dating while in her teens, got it mixed up. If she was already in her 20's then whatever.
>>1964741> guitar smashing being such a tired cliche that nobody actually doesabsolutely. I might be the poorfaggotry speaking through me, as i would never even scratch my "cheap" (by guitar snob standards) instrument i saved up for years to afford, but this smashing guitars thing is just so lame in 2020+. 90's, yeah maybe. But all these artists smashing guitars in the past 20 years to be oh so rebellious? I cringed hard when Billie Joe armstrong destroyed expensive ass 60's guitars at small priv shows to show "he still got it at 40", and i cringed when Phoebe Bridgers did it to… idk? Protest against what? lol. Idk it seems like the equivalent of say, avril Lavigne banging her guitar against the floor because they need a 2 sencond filler for a music video. so rock~n~roll~!
No. 1965247
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>>1964741>>1964844>>1964972God, that moment was so try-hard. She didn't even smash it! I remember that was the moment when I saw cow potential in her. Never paid attention to her before that because her music is boring
No. 1965718
>>1965247Ooomph, this is so so bad. "Taylor Swift smashes guitar to symbolize saying fuck you to ex number 10000" tier bad. I'm actually surprised Starcrawler never tried destroyingguitars onstage, missed out on opportunity to showcase "oh so punk rock & real" stage bullshit lol.
>>1964972Same with Nirvana or Jimi Henrix imo. I was sort of fine with Tre Cool of Green Day burning own his drum sets in late (?)90's though. Still a waste, but always had an impression that it looked like he was deliberately making this a parody of stage destroying bands.
No. 1965755
>>1965722It was a Danelectro IIRC.
While she looked really lame and wimpy
this might’ve been part of the joke tbh trying and failing to smash it, smashing a mass produced electric guitar is nothing to clutch pearls over. An electric guitar isn’t irreplaceable like a Stradivarius violin or Goffriller cello or what have you. Yes it’s technically wasteful as it’s ruining a playable instrument but it is being used as a prop in the performance and personally I
as a musician think that’s fine.
>>1965718It’s Fangirl Phoebe; she was likely inspired by Bright Eyes on Craig Ferguson back in like 2006. At least Conor Oberst looked kinda cool doing it and Nate Walcott debuted the trumpet smash.
No. 1965816
>>1965755I just think it looks try-hard and lame. I kinda get it if there's a situation let's say, guitar/sound system unexpectedly breaks onstage and ruins the performance, so musician gets pissed and breaks guitar impulsively. But when you go onstage and deliberately break it for the show, it most often ends up cringey now, kind of like "Miley Cyrus trying to be rock'n'roll" case. Or "Maneskin/Yungblood/MachineGunKelly/insert whoever tries to be oh so wild and do some ~crazy poonk rowk antics". It is a prop in the perforance but the problem is, performance looks bad.
I guess it's just something that's aged up badly or ran it's course, so it doesn't look that cool anymore.
No. 1965874
>>1965718AYRT yeah hadn't thought to include Hendrix as the most famous example of setting the guitar on fire at Monterey I'd considered something different than just smashing it but yeah I guess the end result is the same, broken gear. Agree this is a non-cringe example and added to the performance but it also only works in the context of the era. Gonna have to agree to disagree about Nirvana, yeah the first time Kurt did it was due to a gear malfunction and then they made it a thing after the crowd reaction they got from it but dunno. Do you know the story of late-period heroin-addicted Kurt spitting on a teenage fan from out the tour bus window? IMO the Kurt that did that was born when they decided to make trashing their gear a recurring thing.
>>1965755Even though you spoilered it you shouldn't blog to establish authority. You're in a thread which is more likely to have other musicians and people who have heard a lot of records and not everyone is necessarily going to agree with your perspective.
>>1965816 put it pretty well, it just comes off tryhard now, privileged even I'd add, even if the replacement cost isn't that high. Plus any retard can break an instrument but it takes skill to write or perform, and at best it's a performance gimmick.
>Bright EyesKEK did they wreck their shit after playing This Is The First Day Of My Life?
No. 1966021
>>1965874Hmm I'm giving a pass for Nirvana maybe a little, gotta say some stage destruction videos look cool/interesting/going well with the show idk. Some of these destructions were reaction to their life problems etc. maybe that's why it looked better as opposed to ppl like Phoebe? I think some of the guitar breaking CAN look good, but it falls flat when it becomes a routine /performance trick. If Jimi or Kurt were alive, i'm sure they wouldn't break instruments at 30 or 40, it would be so boring
>Do you know the story of late-period heroin-addicted Kurt spitting on a teenage fan from out the tour bus window?No, ofc it's shitty af of him but honestly I'm not very surprised or offended at that just cause unfortunately, I can attest opioids make you an asshole. Snapping at people becvuse they "move too much" while you're on the come down etc. I heard Nirvana guys were nice to fans otherwise. Nirvana probably lasted longer than they were equipped, these guys started hating each other in 1992 already.
No. 1966027
>>1966024That being said, this "i wanna more women at the front!" thing is very Kathleen Hanna, thought she'd be against just bc she hated Kathleen lmao.
and! Speaking of vintage drama, what did you anons think of "Courtney Love punched Kathleen Hanna at Lollapalooza" thing? Tl;dr according to CLove, Kathleen asked her something like "Where's your daughter, shooting up heroin backstage?" and Courtney punched her in the face, and dislocated her own wrist in effect. According to Kim Gordon, Courtney punched her bc she was jealous of Kathleen, but after reading her book, I'd say Kim Gordon is seething jealous of Courtney Love herself lol.
No. 1966209
>>1965874Second AYRT
and yeah sorry for the previous blog but some anons seem to not realize that modern electric guitars and electric instruments in general are mass produced and easily replaceable and I do agree that it’s a pointless gimmick but smashing an electric guitar is also not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. It’s certainly a tired cliche and most people don’t seem to enjoy watching pointless destruction so I’m really unsure what prompted Phoebe to do the (obviously staged and pre planned) fail-smash. Unfortunately modern concertgoers do expect a visual performance and aren’t just there to hear tunes so I assume that’s why it lives on.
With Bright Eyes it was Road to Joy and it actually looked cooler than most IMO because Conor really went for it. I’ll attach the video despite it being slightly OT because Phoebe is/was obviously a creep-tier Bright Eyes/Conor Oberst fan and is certainly familiar with it. IIRC Nate was playing trumpet with her for her SNL performance.
No. 1966335
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Lauren Tate / Delilah Bon / Hands off Gretel update I guess - Gretel is no more, it looks like she and her nazi looking manlet broke up. She is still white girl woke ally rapping and goes on manic tweeting sprees frequently…
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No. 1966411
>>1966335OMG i was just thinking of checking up on her today! I think she's a perfect cow for this thread but for some reason we don't check up on her often enough. From her manufactured paid by mommy dearest career to bitchy attitudes and spergouts, i think that's where the full fat milk is. We need to focus on her, it must be flowing.
>>1966337 That's Grimes tier cringe oversharing and she's looking Jazmin Bean tier gross. Is she really doing rap now? Huh
>>1966399Ohh alright. Now that you mentioned it, i remembered that it was the original reason of outrage around Phoebe's performance (like "blahh smashing pricey guitar in pandemic" thing iirc). I agree it's a weird pearlclutching, i could be wrong but her guitar model wasn't original vintage piece and i don't think Danelectro is closing anytime soon. I'd probably have a different opinion if she smashed super rare vintage guitar or violin but meh. I also don't care when people smash plain Fender strats, that's a waste of money for me personally but there's abundance of Strats so who cares.
No. 1966656
>>1966588ayrt, yes absolutely, i wasn't whiteknighting her bc what you said is undeniable. Interestingly, she sort of was a lolcow even in the state of 90's internet. she was known for hopping on various prehistoric itnternet forums and starting these massive spergouts and infights. They are archived on some blog but fpr the love of me i cannot decipher this shit lol.
>>1966526>imo musicians who respect their intruments are more intriguing and skilled than the "rockers" doing musician caricatures for moronsI agree 100%. I'm of the opinion it's rather cringe, though can look cool in several cases, but overall whenever i see people smashing guitars "for the show" i'm unimpressed and bored rather than anything they try to evoke.
No. 1967645
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This is ancient now but I just remembered it and it fits the bill. More emo shit.
The World is a Beautiful Place and I Am No Longer Afraid to Die - basically had a few albums that were totally loved by critics and got about as big as an emo band of their time could get. Multiple members kicked out/left and long had a reputation for being dicks in person. Very art school preppy kind of shit.
Apparently a member was kicked out for generally being too much of a dick. Another member left the band due to mental health concerns and the rest of the band just shunned him entirely.
Anyways, Dads are another emo band that also gain a lot of hype for their album American Radass. They decide to stop working with a certain label TWIABP wanted them to work with, and the result is at least one member of TWIABP spreading false accusations and rumors of them being creeps. Particularly accusing of them of getting a phone call from an ISP of them watching questionable stuff.
There's a ton of other shit on this band that you can dive into - they've generally had the reputation of being total fucking nightmare people.
No. 1967692
>>1967645Dads seemed like huge dicks. Very into themselves and think they're better than everyone.
TWIABP is also one of the most grimy disgusting looks out their for their members. The fat troon had the greasiest hair all of the time.
>I love both bands music tho No. 1967764
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>>1964972This is really the only time a (bass) guitar smash looked cool.
No. 1968095
>>1968029Please do share these stories anon, this is one of my fav threads but it lacks milk severly in recent year. idk if all the milk serving farmers from the scene left or what, but i'd love to hear more indie/pop punk milk. all these dudes are equivalents of high school randoms dreaming to fuck the cherleader, hence all these pop "punk" guys dating ppl like Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jessica Simpson and so on. you don't have to worry about doxxing yourself, nobody looks at ths thread anyway besides a few dedicated anons. Plus,whenever i hear milky stories like that i simply assume the source anon was just a random venue worker, tour crew, photographer, less relevant musician from same scene or whatever. I don't think vnyone can idenfify who you are, unless you're an ex-wife of some pop punker lol
No. 1968117
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>>1966027>>1966588The entire riot grrl would be considered proto-libfems, cause most are still alive and are open libfems. The entire scene came from upper-middle-class girls from colleges LARPing, now most of the former riot grrls who didn't end up with the fame they had imagined for themselves, settled down and married slightly more successful men. For example, there was a writer who associated with the Riot Grrrl movement(and her name escapes me) and I remember she even used to read Solanas. However, when the audience wasn't there and, most importantly there was no money to be made, she married a man and had two-three sons(she even wrote a blog piece about it and how she regretted hating men and it was shared among MRA circles back in the day) but Kathleen Hannah is the greatest illustration of the whole movement, she based her entire identity and persona on being an "independent feminist slut" raging against capitalism and the patriarchy, only to later marry one of the beastie boyz, support Hillary Clinton and then there's issue of her son, it's mostly speculation but a lot of speculate she and Ad-Rock used a surrogate. which really is the ultimate form of exploration you can put onto another woman.
No. 1968145
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>>1968117(maybe i'm just biased because i always found Bikini Kill very average sounding musically…) It weren't my times so what i know comes from books & articles obviously, but i was always rather skeptical about riot grrrl movement. For all Courtney Love's bitching coming from jealousy and stuff, she was sort of right about this movement being no movement, just afew girls playing it up for the press. Felt like it was all for the sake of being "one in the clique", idk. Not saying the origins and intentions behind it were bad, but like you said riot grrrls ideals became largely irrelevant as all the representants "grew up" and went against what they were preaching. I mean, it's always like that to a certain extent (hippies, punks etc) but i thought riot grrls strived to make it a set of lasting, relevant ideas not a short-lasting subculture styled movement. Idk.
As for Kathleen, i didn't know about Clinton and surrogate thing. Surrogacy is horrible, not very feminist of her lol. Women who do it are always in awful financial situations. I'm sure if they weren't desperate, no woman would willingly go through pregnancy and involved health risks for some other chick's sake. Bleak.
Not sure what to say about her dating Beastie Boyz guy. You could say she fell in love and felt it's more important than what she said before, and i mean, this is how it happens for millions of milions of people. Interesting bit: back when Amanda Palmer had a whole dilemma about dating Neil Gaiman not being punk rock or whatever, she e-mailed Kathleen. I found the bit in question bc somebody posted amanda's ebook link in her thread. Idk about this whole "omGGGZ i'm dating a millionaire now but i'm too punk to use his money, thas not punkk!" thing, but for some reason I found the "I was living on basically just chinese soups inside his huge mention" bit really cringe. i can't really sympathize with either of them.
No. 1968842
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>>1968591I revisited Rebel Girl (unironically probably one of the most standable song in their catalog) recently and damn girl. Sure, i don't expect punk music to be complex or melodic, but Bikini Kill's music sounds almost infantile, in the bad way. it's just boring. The lyrics take the cake, it is way way worse than i remembered. Fuck the message, it's just bad songwriting.
I share the opinion on the forced "little girl singing voice" matter. Sometimes it's hard to judge bc it's inherent thing, like it "comes in the package" for bands like Babes in Toyland or Daisy Chainsaw. But for example i think Katiejane Garside sounds so much better when she made first 2 Queenadreena albums and used her normal "adult" voice. Bikini Kill amplifies the problem because Kathleen has way less interesting voice that abovementioned two.
any other 90's bands you consider overrated nonnies?
No. 1973936
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Why is it so important to Glume that randos on the internet believe she is ill. If she really is as sick as she is claiming to be, why waste that precious energy on proving a point rather that healing? Also, why is she always seem most sick when she's not doing well in terms of reach/success/revenue?
No. 1973960
>>1973936>I have to make porn to pay my bills>bc i can't stand upNo, you don't have to. Disabled/ill people get normal jobs, including ones where they DON'T have to stand. It's not easy for them, sure, but they still do their best and manage to work normal jobs without resorting to porn (as if it's the only option available!)
I have no idea if she's sick or not, but even if she is, this pathetic rant doesn't make me feel bad for her at all. Quite the opposite. but i'll be generous and say this: Glume, use what little bits of connections in La that you still have, before its too late, and get back into voice acting. You can try to go visual arts/vintage-burleque-pinup modeling way with your look as well. stop blaming the world for you selling porn, you can stop it anyday and try regular ass job, even online work-at-home one. Like she has infinitely more connections/opportunities than most of us and yet she acts like the biggest
victim.
No. 1974368
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>>1968117There was a Bikini Kill concert in my country this week, and Tobi Vail posted this. Apparently there were some speeches during the show about inclusion and "trans women are women", it's so stupid. I thought "girls on the front" was about the violence that boys committed at rock shows preventing girls from watching the show. Apparently male violence is forgiven if the man is wearing a skirt and wig, because women have an obligation to include everyone who "feels like a woman" in our spaces. These idiots never set foot in my country, but now that they are old and forgotten, they saw the opportunity to come here and earn the money they can no longer earn in concert halls in the USA and Europe. And it's not enough, they need to come and spread this plague of neoliberal queer ideology in my damn third world country. Fuck these class traitors.
No. 1974572
>>1974368>if you are a tall straight cis rich able bodied white guy think about how much space you're taking upWhat in the fuck? So gay, MtF, non-white guys magically DON'T take up space? The body problem evaporates, MtFs magically shrink to daity fairie size? Not that i care for the rich but wtf being rich (or white) has to do with anythign? I've always thought Tobi Vail seems like a shallow bitch for some unknown reasons, but now i see she's just a dumbfuck. "If you feel like you belong to the front" - and what if every man in the room has a sudden revelation like that?
all the males who come to their show should push and stand in the front even just once, only just so Kathleen and Tobi experience firsthand how quickly their retarted idea falls apart. and whenever questioned, they should just yelp "B-b-but i feel i'm a girl? You said girls to the front, right?"
No. 1976373
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Can we discuss KNEECAP here? Would they count as indie even if Sony recently scooped them up and they've been backed by the Irish state since day one, as well as whatever money Móglaí Bap's got? They do insist on calling themselves a punk rap band despite all this, as well as requesting funding from the UK government only to be denied.
They've been at it for over six years and have built their entire career off smick rap as Gaeilge. People who've met them say they're ~~working class~~ and down to earth but there have been rumours about them from the beginning. About Móglaí Bap or Naoise Ó Cairealláin specifically. He's the only one who's been called out. (On the right.)
Particularly about his time in uni. Supposedly he went from student accommodation to student accommodation, "destroying" them, and then threatening anyone who confronted him with his auntie, a top solicitor in Belfast. He also comes from an Irish-speaking family, I'm sure he's got more connections there. Quite working class of him.
More recently, rape and abuse allegations against Naoise have resurfaced. They've been going around for a while but as KNEECAP blows up after performing on Jimmy Fallon, horror stories of Naoise are being told again. And I wouldn't doubt Naoise has threatened the women he might have raped or abused with his solicitor auntie.
Sorry for no real sources or so few screenshots. Libel laws in the UK and Ireland are insane and favour the plaintiff, so everything is getting deleted the instant it's posted out of caution. Even so I hope an Irish anon can enlighten us if willing to take a risk.
And I'll catch a ban for non milk if it's counted as such I don't care I just wanted to get this out there even if no one cares about some inbred uggos or whatever.
No. 1976374
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>>1976373Reddit screenshot I know, not actual proof of anything, but interesting imo that the user already deleted. Everyone fears the solicitors.
No. 1976375
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>>1976373Post (not really) detailing the allegations. Again this was deleted in fear of legal repercussions. Mods can delete this if they feel if it's too much trouble or not worth the risk.
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>>1976374It's impossible to find any real information online about the allegations since everything has been deleted, but there are some comments on Reddit and other places discussing them (picrel). I'm not surprised in the slightest lol, never liked these guys. Their fans are retarded and will attack anyone who mentions the allegations, so it's really difficult to find any real sources.
No. 1977258
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Not (actively?) a cow but we've discussed her in the thread before & we don't have mainstream rock thread anyway… Checked up on Taylor Momsen and wow, i'm kind of shocked. anons, am i going crazy or she doesn't even look like herself anymore? I thought "maybe it's bc no panda makeup", but she looks wildy different than she does in recent candids/live shows. The amount of facetune/snow/fillers is ridiculous. This is Valerya Lukyanova doll tier creepy editing…
No. 1977261
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>>1977258I also wondered if shes going the orthorexia route. she's been very skinny for a while after a couple of years of being on the fatter side (like 2017) but right now she's posting tons of gym bodychecks. Like this weird video with washboard and showing her stomach muscles. I mean, good for her if she likes working out and getting "ripped". But the amount of filters she uses this year (which she's really never done before?) is crazy, honestly it's kind of sad
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3-9lYTOQYu/>>1976373never heard of these scrotes before, maybe out of the loop but are they even famous
No. 1977276
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>>1977261I feel like they're a carefully orchestrated Irish industry plant tbh. I say carefully orchestrated because they formed in 2017, used this whole story about getting arrested while spraypainting around town and held a night in jail for only speaking Irish as a sort of springboard or origin story, and only recently started blowing up, even performing on Jimmy Fallon and getting press in the US for pulling out of SXSW in support for Palestine. And we know for sure the Irish state is funding them. But they're not at all well known except Ireland and maybe Britain and it makes you wonder if someone is pulling the strings, pushing them into the spotlight. Their more recent music video hasn't even broken 100k views despite being dropped 3 weeks ago and all the press.
No. 1977344
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>>1977261>fatter side>2017 rattle rattle
>>1977258Don’t let your kids grow up in show business. There’s obviously some really bad body dysmorphia at play between her body and face and all the shoop.
No. 1977386
>>1977344alright, i worded it badly. I didn't want to say she was fat, just bigger than now. but seeing pic you posted maybe it was just some odd face bloat.
>>1779497>>1977276> A Sundance film about them (also titled Kneecap) Why would some nobody idiots have a who ass documentary about them premiering at sundance? Not even nepo Starcrawler has that. Not even industry bands like Pale Waves, or Phoebe Bridgers or whoever.
No. 1980416
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Did Glume photoshop this fake photo of her as a child? Wtf is up with the face. And back to back with her promoting her OF
No. 1980516
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I did a google image search of that picture and found the original image. She must really think people aren't on to her game. She did a performance with Rufus Wainwright early this month that is on her IG. She really and truly can't sing. I don't know how a respected musician would want to be associated with her.
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People are confronting her on IG about the ballet picture. It will be interesting to see what sob story she comes up with for this. She even posted a fake picture of herself as Annie. She is the internet gift that keeps on giving.
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>>1980416It's like some weekly world news shit. This fuckin bitch.
No. 1980817
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>>1980650Kek she must have taken the ballet one down. She put this up, complete with a cryptic caption. She really pushes this child actress tragic background, but her father follows her on Instagram and seems like a supportive enough old guy. Even still following her as she posts bullshit about her tragic childhood & OF ads. Does anyone even remember when this chick was a singer with a heart problem? She shuffles her identity around at lightning speed.
No. 1980835
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I'm really invested in this Glume insanity. I was able to get shots of her stories and will be posting them here for reference. She is claiming that people in the industry "didn't get to date her like she wanted." Who in the hell could she be talking about or is that another lie for sympathy?
No. 1980836
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Another one where she talks about bullying and people in the industry. Anyone with any insider information?
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Wtf are these lips…she makes me irrationally angry with her whole schtick, but the lips make it 1000 times more insufferable somehow kek
No. 1980927
>>1980850 From what I can gather she was a child voice actor for video games more than films - went by the name Molly Keck. She used to record under the name Molly Marlette prior to calling herself Glume.
https://english-voice-over.fandom.com/wiki/Molly_Keck#:~:text=Molly%20Marlette%2C%20better%20known%20as,recording%20artist%20and%20voice%20actress.
No. 1980934
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Just feels dishonest claiming she had an evil stage mom who drugged her when she only had a couple of jobs. Even the Rolling Stone interview just lists three minor roles. I think she's skinwalking Jennette McCurdy.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mollymarlette/ No. 1981202
>>1980927When your "child actor" career had like 4 minor voice roles but you make it your whole brand and say stuff like
>I’m proud of it but it was not for memories it was for bills. >>1980817Also I'm sure she has photos from her childhood aside this one, she was just backtracking with a sob story after her bad ai/shoop attempts flopped.
No. 1981985
>>1981971The thread that was created on reddit specifically for the altered photo looks like it has been deleted.
She has lied so much I can't believe she hasn't at least blown up about that. At least that would give her the fame and attention she seems to so desperately want. The thing that gets me is that what she lies about are so easily able to prove false by a quick google search. She has lied in an interview before about being one of the top three for Hannah Montana.
No. 1981986
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>>1980516She definitely knows about lolcow. This comment was posted a few days ago saying she can't sing and them she posted this in her stories.
No. 1982034
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This is part of a conversation I found between her and a guy on fb. Dang. She really has no shame.
No. 1982153
>>1980934Definitely trying to create a persona and bank off actual child stars suffering what with the success of Jeanette's book and the "Quiet on Set" doc that just dropped. Disgusting behavior.
>>1981202Her childhood photos are probably terribly normal and don't fit into this bullshit narrative she's made up so she's resorted to shooping pics she brainlessly swipes off Google. She's like a mix of that wannabe pinup cow Kathy and meatball eyes Mandy. Glad people are finally catching onto her at least.
No. 1982159
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I don't think this was shared here but it's from the Personal thread. A compilation of all of her GoFundMes
No. 1983114
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I found a picture of Glume without makeup or filters. She is in the middle in pink
No. 1983153
>>1983114Oh lord. Is this recent? She looks 9 yrs oldet than she is, and thats only because she botxhed heraelf with surgeries. I almost wanted to say i feel bad… but then i remember she relentlessly profits off of someone elses tragedies and nah. I mean her madeup uwu tragic childstar holywood trope. One look at her interviews, one look at dramatic sentences like "my fav were Shirley Temple movies" and "My mother was feeding me amphetamines!" to know all her lifestory is bullshit.
Im quite surprised she never claimed to be fed Luminal/fenobarbital, old hollywoods fave. Or Rohypnol. Kek
No. 1983258
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One thing about having Prinzmetal angina is that you are supposed to avoid cigarette smoke. Here she is with Rufus Wainwright and he is smoking or about to do so. It makes me wonder if all the celebrities that collaborated with her are in on the lie with her.
No. 1983277
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>>1983258Not sure if you can necessarily say she's for sure smoking, but I guess she's moved off her seat in a way that seems like she's getting ready to. She does talk a lot about how delicate and frail she is, to the point she can't stand up (reason she can't get a job apparently), can't eat anything, etc. Then she's dancing and going out, generally doing physically and mentally demanding things, drinking alcohol/eating junk food like it's nothing. Adults with long term/severe illnesses know that the consequences of one bad day can fuck you up for so long, if not just immediately. I know people can feel better or worse from one day to the next, so I'm not saying she should be confined to a wheelchair. But it's just interesting how much chronically ill people usually miss out on so much good times due to unpredictable nature of symptoms, while this miss seems to be fully capable of doing everything she wants to do and yet we should pity her because she's too special to work. She is fully competent at socializing and sitting at a desk, there are plenty of jobs for her. Or rather, there were before she became another middle class idiot who publicly ties their real name and professional persona to "sex work" and dramatically claiming she's doing it to "survive". Lip injections arent something you usually see as a priority in sick people that are scraping by.
No. 1983603
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>>1983258Noooo, you don't understand, see…it's totes cool, because she really loves her pets (too sick to stand, but not chase after a whole menagerie of pets). and that's why she can do things like this while she lives at deaths door and is definitely-for-real-not-faking sick! it's because of her otherworldly "mothering" skills. They call her back spiritually, thus undoing the very real physical damage. Hope this helps. Poor, poor baby Glume!
No. 1983639
>>1981986I still can't get over the fact she drummed up her "live show taping" and then did the most halfassed shitty miming I've ever seen, and of course the footage of the "live show" was never mentioned again because it was unsalvagable. I'm guessing she's prerecorded all the songs for her current show she's advertising.
>>1983277Right. Everything you said. I initially believed her sob stories but her behaviour absolutely doesn't align with chronic illness. She is active, dancing and messing around, travelling, taking photos, socialising etc every day. Most chronically ill people might manage to be active like 5 days a month tops and you usually need weeks to recover from a particularly active day.
I mean she might just be an idiot and on her way to having a heart attack, I think there is truth in the heart condition, but she definitely isn't weak and frail like she claims.
No. 1983645
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Any thoughts on The Garden twins or Vada Vada? I don't know much about the other members but it always bothered me how Wyatt and Fletcher Shears larped as punks only due to playing experimental shit and having an og punk dad. Guess they liked being rich cool kiddos and YSL models a little too much. Also they had, I think, a couple of anti violence songs and used to post corny shit like “muh don't like aggression towards women” while being a part of the burger records family. Guess they were too busy battling racism allegations after Wyatt wearing blackface at the beach goth show to notice the sexual violence situation.
Now Wyatt is deep into "white trash-y" redneck aesthetic along with his girlfriend and Slater, trying to drag his brother into this. But when Fletcher is free from The Garden, his work does not resemble Wyatt's fantasies anymore. It's just sad to watch him always trying to take over Fletcher in the band of two family members. Or groping him lol
No. 1983702
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>>1983645These guys are definitely cows or rather have all the potential to be, but this stinks of twittard. There are no other members of The Garden, it's just the two of them, and Vada vada isn't a real thing it's just some shit they made up and only they're doing. But they're def yuppie poser weirdos and the groping each other thing is so real lmao. I do think they got off too easy with the burger records implosion, they had just shot to fame right before it all came out so they were freshly in good graces and seemed to escape unquestioned, but the blackface claims are so goofy. They'd well established that goofy clown paint schtick immediately following their first album but unfortunately they had made their bed in the genz crowd already. He should've known better with how pearl-clutching cancel ready their fanbase aligned, but anyone who is above the age of 18 should be able to see picrel isn't malicious minstrel makeup, just tard bs. That doesn't make it any good though lel. Shit on them for being losers but don't play into the easy bait
No. 1983826
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>>1983702The consequences of the blackface situation are actually hilarious at least for me. Some people got mad they stood up for their shitty face paint jobs (as they should honestly). But twins are lucky they had no fans in 2014 other than bisexual scene queens who would never give up their favorite porn category so it cost them a shitty tweet. 6 years later Wyatt pulled out and scanned the brand new apology to his cells stay clean during the burger drama and BLM protests.
You see, Wyatt is the milky one.
https://youtu.be/dsWcQDuRTDU?si=NDpvrL1Vu2XMumJb There are some softcore porn looking documentary on the twins. A little story of two autistic skinny guys rollerblading, jumping around, rotting in beds and chanting heart warming stuff like "close your eyes bro what do you see bro". But it's actually all about the music! Contains two minutes of white Death Grips parody and couple of slurs btw
No. 1984013
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Isn't it cute how she twerks with her emotional support budgies on her non existent ass? I know we all wanna support our Baby, wishlist for her upcoming movie now available!
No. 1984047
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Is it just me or is she using AI for the vocals and video?
No. 1984493
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Love that Glume just HAD to throw in "I'm 100 lbs"
It's shitty to nitpick her body because then she's able to dismiss the legitimate callouts as "bullying", but it's also woe-is-me perpetual victim to constantly rant about it on your IG story.
No. 1984766
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No idea how Palaye Royale got famous, but weren't they some mediocre ass emo whineboys coming from semi indie circles? or am i mistaking them with someone else. They even look like cows. Maybe bc they look like a cross of Maneskin and Tokio Hotel (vintage ass german cows).
Their singer was sort of known for wearing a hospital gown onstage a couple years back, which was the same time Arrow de Wilde of Starcrawler did. I remember seeing Arrow's father (Aaron Sperske) commenting under his photo how lame and "copycat"he was or something, kek.
>>1983702I haven't heard this name in years. The blackface outrage was ridiculous, cancel/pearlclutching mentality. I couldn't care less for those things, but in this case this clearly looks like shitty insane clown posse/theatrical makeup. Marilyn Manson did the same thing and nobody cared at the time (despite actually being racist in private as it turned out eventually).
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>>1984766Palaye Royale were pretty milky back then, they're personal cows of mine. Sage for old milk since they're not doing much nowadays iirc.
>Band consists of three brothers who used to be a Disney boyband and re-branded themselves as rockstar edgelords. Their mother acts as their manager and is equally fucking crazy. They used to be infamous for photoshopping their pictures to crazy levels.>They published a weird "reality show" web series where they showed their touring antics, mostly screaming and fighting each other or Sebastian being fucking wasted.>The vocalist, Sebastian Danzig, was a raging alcoholic and has been accused of abuse by various ex-girlfriends. All members have a tendency of talking to fans on social media, but Sebastian notoriously goes on weird crazy spergs on Twitter from time to time and showcases his private life everywhere. He responds very badly to any criticism. Absolutely zero filter, so he's said some pretty sexist shit in the past. Famously said he wouldn't wear skirts because they made him look like a transvestite, so he got cancelled by the transexual crowd.>The drummer, Emerson Barrett, got accused of sexting an underage fan and had his nudes leaked. Turns out the girl was actually of age, but Emerson had been lying about being in an open relationship with her so he could fuck other groupies. LARPs as a Buddhist philosopher, has written several tinfoily "philosophy" books with absolute gems such as picrel.>The third member, Remington, does absolutely nothing and >Their touring bassist, Daniel Curcio, got cancelled in 2020 for having a weird relationship with his underage fans and later posted a squizoid rant in Wattpad to disprove it (https://www.wattpad.com/1015023942-my-story-behind-the-scenes-of-cancel-culture/page/2).>They have an insane touring schedule and their shows are an absolute chaos. When shit goes wrong they blame the venue/the tech guys/muh evil music industry instead of taking the blame. They've stolen merch designs from their fans, constantly break venue rules and are generally extremely shitty so nobody wants to work with them.They've had some other incidents such as breaking invaluable hand-made drumming sets that someone had lent them, making a terrible AI video for a shitty song they released with Pussy Riot, selling terribly packaged eyeshadow palettes for 70$, getting into physical fights with fans and much more. They're so cringe.
No. 1991257
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Glüme having a meltdown on instastories again
No. 1991258
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No. 1991259
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No. 1991260
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Her anguish was totally believable until she wrote the part that her talent was meant for the 30's or 40's. The mental gymnastics used to justify her lack of success.
No. 1991318
>>1991258Venus angelic levels of coherence from this girl, she never gives a straight answer. The truth is she's manic BPD and has burned bridges with everyone she knows except a few
toxic simps. (I don't know this girl, it's just blatantly obvious)
No. 1991349
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>>1991257Too tired,too weak, must sell body to live, can't reliably stand behind a counter….hey guize, whos interested in learning tap or burlesque from me?! Also, crying about a creepy man leering at a life drawing class, but you sell your body to live? Mhmm. Not to a-log, but I wish I could force this bitch into a night of street walking in the heart of my city and see how she'd feel about a remote customer service job then. It'd have her longing for the creepy guy in art class.
No. 1991400
>>1991349Her level of delusion is so great she doesn't realise people (presumably) jacking off or leering at her onlyfans shit is way worse than a guy approaching you in your life drawing class to tell you to stay still. He probably
was being creepy since he could have yelled that across the room, sounds like he wanted a closer look, (also she was on her phone hence the image taken from her pose, so she was probably scrolling Instagram and laughing to herself kek) but how is she acting horrified about that while doing onlyfans? She realises there are creepy dudes on the other side of the screen right?
No. 1991411
>>1991349I think teaching dance could be a step in the right direction tbh. She'd surely make more money than doing whatever she does now, and could eventually have a cute little dance school. You're pushing 40, Glume. Its time to grow up and get real.
>>1991338Yeah, the self pitying and whining is so disappointing to see. She's completely in love with her illness.
No. 1991470
>>1991263>PT tier whining about her health and how she deserves to be richLmao true, i knew she reminded me of someone strongly
>what is she even on about this "spilling" to TMZ/LA Times/pitchfork thing?She's been kicked off from her label, basically she thinks they fucked her over and did nothing to promote her etc. But i really really doubt any magazine approached her begginign for a commentary on this kek.
No. 1991479
>>1991260> I’d like to be remembered as something other than online rumours and the sad and questionably sick girl who’s always in troubleYet that is the
only thing that you channel, do, portray, and endlessly sperg about, without anyone even asking.
Where’s all this "art", "hard work", and "cultivated talent" ("meant for the ‘30s or ‘40s", mind you) that you speak of? Buried in the depths of OF? Insta stories? Or perhaps, hidden somewhere in credits of the projects that you never actually took part in, but boasted about online, as if you did? Like literally, WHERE?
No. 1993902
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>>1993871My god, Beabadoobe is the most boring "indie" bitch in the business, all her popularity exists thanks to filling that "average/boring/normie-dressed-alt pretty asian girl singing on tiktok" thrope. She's photogenic and wears y2k clothes like all zoomers do, that is all. To me, she's the epitome of words "zoomer" and "TikTok", nothing else.
>the hair, a messAnon are you trolling? that's normal ass straight hair. If that's haggard then i fear you'd lose your mind at the sight on all sorts of curly/puffed/unbrushed/drug damaged hair kek.
But i'm gonna agree that dress is bad. Reminds me of the worst dress nightmares from Courtney Love
No. 2000601
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albert hammond jr divorced his wife after she had his child and is now dating a sid from ice age lookalike
No. 2001455
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i know this is already in celebricows
>>>/ot/2035985 but can we please talk about it. annie WHY
No. 2001702
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>>2001455i am convinced that annie cut a deal with the devil sometime after strange mercy. in doing this she got guardian/rolling stone level 'big' and even became a c-list celebrity, but every move she has made since then has just been… fart noise. not that a career doing ironically choreographed late afternoon festival slots for the 'boutique pedal dad' audience isn't decent work if you can get it
it's all downstream from the david byrne collab, isn't it? i like stop making sense, but it's the type of thing you can watch and take away all the worst ideas and wrong lessons from
i thought she was so cool in the actor days, before she went spinal tap, but maybe younger me was just dazzled by her quirky wunderkind bit [via michael cera soundtrack-wave]? those early records sure don't sound too hot to these ears in 2024. maybe she was always kind of… crap? after all, her resume includes stints in sufjan stevens' backing band AND the polyphonic spree. that ain't right
No. 2001835
>>2001702Kek were you a professional rock critic at some point in your life
I agree that St. Vincent was always overrated
No. 2002547
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Any milk on Urban Heat? They came out of nowhere and have been touring with a bunch of goth/dark wave bands despite being largely unrelated. They have a lot of songs that are 100% meant to be used as TikTok sound clips and really pander to the “smol soft sensitive beans” type crowd.
They don’t even have an album out yet, but their production quality is insane. They shill SO much merchandise. More t shirts, keychains, etc than any other band I’ve ever seen. Even -two- fucking perfumes. They seem like a plant to me, but I can’t prove it.
No. 2002796
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Why does this give me intense Emilie Autumn flashbacks kek.
In other words, last time on Glume shitshow: she recently got a role in Satyrica musical/went to some sort of showgirl school. (Which is hilarious, she's already got further in musical scene than EA… simply by auditioning lol). Claims she'll release 3rd album soon. Probably got some more animals? Did she have a bunny before? Produced even more tiktoks about ~prinzmetal angina and suffering~
Slight OT but can we make a vow to check up on indie cows and update this thread at least once a week on weekends? (when there's milk ofc) Pretty please? /snow is dead zone this year, i honestly love indie/rock/soundclout/music related cow threads even if they're not that milky, love all the talks i've had with the indie punk adjacent anons
No. 2002798
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Also i gotta say we definitely missed out not following Lauren Tate more closely, she's a hysterical cow in the way she's pretty much milking herself. All her posts are just floods of self-obsessed nonsense
>i hate being on social media
>i hate taking selfies uwu
No. 2002802
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>>2002798These posts almost boasting (?) about her alleged manic phases, what do you anons think? They are frantic, but there's something so fake about this girl and the way she writes, i wouldn't be surprised if she made it up. Or maybe that's exactly the symptom, can't tell.
Gotta say though, when i look at the photos/videos she attatches to "manic" posts, which ALWAYS contain running clown makeup, "psycho" smile and bulging eyes, i think yep, that's bullshit. It's all a normie's idea of what's mental illness.
No. 2002841
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>>2002796Glume might be the ugliest cow I've ever laid eyes upon.
>>2002798>>2002801>>2002802>>2002803This is giving more crackhead behavior than anything else.
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When egirls (cough, i mean ~punk artists of new generation~) decide to just… cosplay Christina Aguilera
No. 2004481
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Glume is changing her name to "Viola" lmao. From Molly Marlette to Joon Glume to Glume Harlow to now this. Can't believe she's comparing herself to Grimes and Zoe Kravitz too
No. 2004750
>>2004481Terrible choice. Not just because "Viola Harlow" makes her sound either like solarium abusing bimbo waitress at hillybilly pub, or a 80 year old local faded cabaret star hoarding cats in her fallen villa. Not even because it sounds shitty. no.
The last handful of people that are casual onlookers of her whole "career" know her as Glume Harlow/Baby Glume, they're not gonna follow her name changes. Unless she's intending to start fresh at a new label, with a completely new and different style persona, i see no point.
No. 2005644
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>>2004481She made a new IG for "Viola Harlow" and already bought IG followers for it. You can tell because none of these people follow "Glume" at all
No. 2006854
>>2005644That's funny, I thought it was
sus that she'd have over 1k on an account she only announced a day or so ago, most second or third accounts struggle to get followers.
No. 2007328
>>2006469I will answer as someone enjoying some of Albini's music, however i gotta say i've never read much of interviews besides engineering articles. So alot of this stuff is a surprise for me. All i've known so far is he used to be asshole and insufferable edgelord hence all that shit like havign a band called Rapeman, racist, homophobic comments etc. I honestly thought he said some shit just for the sake of being contrarian and shocking.
As for pedo allegations, this is new to me and idk what to think of it. Steve Albini was like that kind of edgelord that would post on rotten.com if it existed earlier. Iirc one of his releases had legit bloody gore on the back/booklet. Idk if he was legit pedo or if he treated it as "contrarian edgelord art" (like said zines) but that's fucked up either way.
>troon asskisserHe's the last person on earth i thought would become a troon asskisser, and yet. All these posts apologizing for his past attitude… I don't get why would he strive to be seen as nice & be liked by everyone NOW, so i assumed maybe he honestly had some change of heart due to growing old and mellow like people eventually do. But sucking up to troons, guess he really wanted to be seen as mr politically correct after all.
All that being said, nothing, absolutely nothing excuses him owning that shit, or whiteknighting disgusting Sotos pedo. being quiet about forum pedo is also suspicious as hell. Also fuck him for promoting puberty blockers.
No. 2008620
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Any milk on Gloss? I saw someone saying in some thread (maybe this one) that the vocalist is a rapist but they didn't say anything else about it, and I couldn't find anything either. I tried to listen to it once and ignore the fact that it was a tranny-band but the music was so bad that I couldn't stand it. Also really hate the name, "Girls Living Outside Society's Shit" you are literally a man in a skirt.
No. 2012186
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Why does Glume keep on with these edits on her face to look like some yassified toddler? In spite if the body dismorphia and botched lips and nose, she is a middle aged woman, would be nice if she embraced that.
No. 2014350
>>2001702Agree with everything you said except I do still think actor and strange mercy are excellent records. Marry me has its moments, but as a whole it isn’t really strong.
I too have been following Annie’s career since the music blog days and I’ve seen a massive shift since her self titled. And yeah, more importantly, her collaboration with David. I thought my Masseduction was like so bad. So bland so boring, catering to what she thinks will be successfully, rather than creating from her own desire. It worked though, she got huge, started to date real a-list celebrities like Kristen Stewart and the like. Her new fansbase post 2014 are so obnoxious. It’s shame because I think she’s talented, but idk her current trajectory and who she’s surrounding herself with sucks, she clearly likes the limelight. Oh Her newest album is okay though, it’s closer to her older sounds than her generic dip in rocky pop with masseduction.
No. 2014529
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Glume or Viola was or whatever her name is was cast in a movie a while ago and she posted about it 24/7 including this insane shooped selfie of her and the star actress because she’s a clout chasing loser. Anyway…the movie just came out and she wasn’t at the premiere and the director doesn’t follow her on social media. Does anyone know what happened? I'm curious about her acting but I'm not paying to watch that shit…
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>>2014930Olivia Scott Welch, she was in one of those Fear Street Netflix movies. Not a great actress but she's very pretty, funny to see how much the Glume filter changes the face
No. 2015237
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Holy shit. New song from "Viola Odette Harlow" aka Glume. She touches on the lying etc but claims her agents and managers made her do it. Girl WHAT agents? WHAT managers?
So she went from "I'm an abused child star, my mom drugged me, blah blah blah" to "I'm an abused adult (porn) star, I'm lying to protect people, they made me do it" allllll bullshit
No. 2019644
Anybody knows what's up with Glume's IG account? It's gone for me, but maybe its due to 100 of recent name changes.
>>2014529Did she get any significant role? If not, it's quite possible some onset drama happened and she was cut out from the movie. Wonder if she tried to fake being sooo unhealthy to get pity or special treatment and director somehow (internet?) figured out she's faking.
Does anyone remember some shower video of her bitching about online bullies and throwing stuff for pity like "i just had a mini stroke"? tf does it have to do with prinzmetal angina? maybe i'm wrong but it sounds like something taken out of nowhere…
No. 2020555
>>2019644Her current IG is "violaodetterharlow". The way she keeps changing identities is pathological. She's been spam posting about being "sick" for weeks now.
She had a big role in the movie though and they kept her scenes in. She's one of the top billed. Wonder what happened
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What the fuck.
No. 2023179
>>2022703People dragging sectarianism into it when the allegations are mentioned, literally calling it Protestant propaganda. And with all the retarded race riots going on in England that
conveniently managed to spread only to Belfast
around the same time the film is being shown there's no way you can call them out now. Really cool.
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>>1982159ANOTHER Glume Viola Molly GoFundMe has dropped. This one for her dad? So their family dog died and they need "help to rebuild", but they don't specify needing $ for vet bills or whatever. It's just for living expenses or something
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Ngl Glume's antics are getting weirder and weirder. I get that "being sick" is part of her life (and career kek), but shooting up music videos in a hospital/clinic/whatever it is makes me go wtf. Also judging by this post she lowkey suggests that some of her illnesses can be caused by domestic abuse… If she means her mother then big fucking kek. i mean sure, her mother could've been a bad one but i'll never believe this "mommy fed me amphetaminez and benzos to make me work my ass off as child star" bs. Girl you played maybe 5 b-movies, and we talk voiceacting
>>2026786This (suspicious af) fundraiser for her dad makes me wonder. So she's on good terms with her father? Seems all the hate is reserved for her mother for making her ~a second Shirley Temple and forcing her to load benzedrine like it's 1940s~ and blah blah. Not blaming daddy for allowing this horrific abuse to happen?
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>>2027217First people were Protestants for hating Kneecap and now they're… Israeli glowies? Amazing things happening here. Have fun with your stupid little postcolonial LARP band.
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Late bc lolcow was down, but is anybody surprised? immediately thought of this thread and nonnas from 1st thread talking about how he allegedly cheats on his girlfriends with groupies (and sucks at sex while we're at that)
How the "rock'n'rolls nicest guy" image has fallen, oh my
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/dave-grohl-new-daughter-1.7320345(off-topic) No. 2033584
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>>2033554The fan cope is beyond delusional. I also like their music but I wouldnt do pic related.
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Kek they really don't like when this is brought up
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so girls came up on my playlist today and i remembered christopher owens. back in my early 20s, he had a relationship with my good friend at the time. lots of drugs involved. i just googled him and he married this barely legal girl 3 days after meeting her last year. he also looks about 70. actually he looks like erik cowie from tiger king (rip). i feel like he is still on drugs
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>>2039312i had to see this so you nonas need to see it too
No. 2039900
>>2039466>Lurchkek anon i was about to said the same thing. How old is that guy ew.
>>2039638never heard anything, she seems to be pretty down to earth person, no nepotism etc.
>>2039834i think it's also hilarious how Courtney and Kat had this ongoing war about "who wore this dress first" when Kim Shattuck wore these dressed way before them and looked way cuter
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https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/hello-mary-are-on-the-rise>supports for DIIV, Silversun Pickups and American FootballAny idea why is this Hello Mary band suddenly promoted? I feel like it's another case of vaguely 90's kinderwhore dressing literal who band playing nowhere that suddenly is pushed in online press for absolutely no reason. and nah i can't believe they got famous through Soundclout in the year of our lord 2024
No. 2040653
>>2040567At least she never verbally attacked KatieJane Garside, it's somewhat nice to see they always complimented each other.
I'm actually surprised to see Courtney deleted insta and stays away from official socials completely for the past couple of years (besides maybe that lilacs20 private account she uses sometimes to post trivia on fan page). Apparently she's got her own audio series on BBC recently and blew up in the news for saying Taylor Swift is not important lmao. Like it amuses me that its treated as "controversial opinion" kek. she's not wrong.
No. 2040857
>>2040655i wish she finally released autobiography. I remember she read an excerpt on youtube/insta once. i'd swallow this up, Courtney is a cow for sure but an entertaining one.
>Wonder if she got a bunch of backlash when Frances Oh are they beefing again? I thought they made up cause they gave interviews together at Montage of Heck events. wonder why exactly Frances cut her off again. i mean besides being a mother that's handful loaded on prescription drugs etc.
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Anybody still interested in indie/rock cows? Just checked and Glume has a new scam fund, surprise surprise. Anyways here's what happened recently
>released new singles under new name
>got yet another animal (new puppy)
>started a Playboy account
>had COVID, which ofc serves now as a reason why she cannot work or do anything
>claims she accumulated 150k worth medical debt and of course started yet another fundraiser
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>>2050380I don't get the "uwu i can't work bc of my illnesses" shit, she could do one of those work from home jobs, or even being a fucking secretary at some place, that requiers only paperwork/computer job and minimal movement. Like registering visits at local clinic reception or something
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>>2050381bonus, sample of her Playboy content from instagram.
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Glume is ridiculous, it's really worth to dig into her interviews cause the lies she tells are just fantastic. In this she claims she was one of the final 3 actresses in the casting picked to play Hannah Montana, fucking KEK. The other two girls considered by producers were actually Taylor Momsen and Daniella Monet.
>mother gave her various drugs and medications to keep her working, which resulted in a number of chronic health conditions in her twentiesEh so she claims she's got angina and lupus (+ whatever else) specifically bc of amphetamines and benzo her mother allegedly gave her? anybody with medical knowledge on how possible this is?
https://thefortyfive.com/interviews/glume-interview-main-character-2023/ No. 2050670
From the same article
>Growing up home-schooled in a “super sheltered”, religious family, the singer wasn’t allowed to consume modern culture or spend time with friends, and instead watched the classic movie channel and rented Audrey Hepburn or Fred Astaire and Ginger Roger films on VHS> On the bare, hymnal ‘Female Role Model’, she recalls when her therapist gave her a book on Marilyn Monroe after noticing similarities in their upbringing. “She turned out to be the most iconic woman of all time,” Glüme says. “And I was like, ‘Wait, I’m not a freak, it’s glamorous?’”>In 2009, when Glüme was living in New York, there was another musician who was leaning towards similar old-school musical influences, who even came to one of the singer’s early shows. Glüme’s manager was dating Lana Del Rey at the time, who would tell both artists to “get over the old Hollywood thing”. She recalls: “He’s like, ‘You guys are never going to make money with this weird obsession. So when she made it, I was just like, ‘Sorry, dude, it worked.’yeah i really don't think Lana came to watch her show. In the other article she says she shared a manager with Jeanette McCurdy. she just says anything that fits the narrative
>>2050542In the article she says her cardiologist was ok with her going on tour cause it's better to have a bad accident on tour than sitting at home in fear or whatever. Shame that her cardiologist didn't tell her she can also go to work lol.
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>>2050666She could have angina from cardiovascular stress due to amphetamine use but blaming the lupus on amphs/benzos makes no sense. It's an autoimmune disease and neither of these types of drugs exert a significant effect on that system.
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>>2050673Thanks. She also claims to have postural tachycardia syndrome and chronic anemia + i'm sure a couple other conditions. very hard for me to believe her mother fed her anything like that, she had about 4 minor credits for voicing lowkey computer games, i don't see this big career that would require such dedication.
interestingly, she wasn't always crazy about the retro aesthetic. I checked her husband's account and there's a couple of her old pics from 2017, she was egirl type of chick hanging out wih Heaven Party goers like Toopoor lol. kind of crazy
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>>2050686That's possible. I don't think she ever mentioned ED but who knows? i think she might have one of the issues she listed, but i somehow doubt she has all of them.
Tbh i'm curious about these years before she started this Glume project. I found her old tumblr, mollymarlette.tumblr.com
She looked like a typical 2016 pink bubblegum Melanie Martinez listener, wow. She already had amazon wishlists up, did/planned to make a video for Limecrime with Doe Deere so maybe she had some minor online fame (picrel)
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>>2050701But this one… the insta link is long deleted, but the caption stays
>My mom will forever be the coolest for getting me this pixelated @karllagerfeld sweatshirtReally? what happened to mom being so horrible and
abusive?
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But i thought her family was oh so poor!
No. 2051803
>>2051786It's the same situation like Emilie Autumn, they both say fantastic bullshit (like being relative of Alice Liddel kek) and not a single journalist bothers to do their research.
Scrolling her old tumblr is all it takes to see the contradictions. She posts about happy childhood, fancy family dinners, all the Lazyoaf, Limecrime, Deandri and YRU clothes her cool mom just bought her. whoops, sorry, i mean she she bought these all herself with the millions she made as voice actor for a PC game from 2006.
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This is so embarrassing lmao. Like obviously you're not friends with celebs (barely celebs), you're begging them for photos like a weirdo.
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>>2052892She looks like Shaye Saint John next to these less botched celebs…girl, learn when to quit.
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I saw new H&M tv ad today and is that Kim Gordon with her daughter again? Like damn she's trying hard, she already did the same thing for H&M a couple years ago, shows her in music vids etc. It's almost like she regrets her daughter failed to get famous with her band/whatever she's doing.
Btw what do you anons think of her recent "activity"? I just noticed she released a book about her deceased brother, and if i'm understanding correctly she's printing his writings and diaries without asking beforehand. She's already revealed very very personal stuff about Keller before in her autobio. I had very mixed feelings reading that already in 2014. For those who didn't, Keller was pretty severly schizophrenic, iirc almost got involved with Charles Manson sect at some point, then went mad and spent rest of his days locked in a hospital.
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>>2054310Amazon description of said book
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>>2054310Kim has been trying to make her daughter “happen” for years now and it’s been failing. Lots of people were making comparisons of her daughter coco being the next Chloe sevigny, they sort of look alike, but Chloe obviously is much more beautiful and talented.
She’s been getting random modeling gigs here and there but never consistently and never doing runways. A few years ago, she had an art installation? I don’t remember, but she’s doing the whole “I’m an activist” now schtick. Her modeling is not really convincing, she isn’t particularly pretty, and she can’t even pull off unconventional beauty either. She always give off that “bedroom” tired eyes thing that people think is what makes you a good model, which is not true at all. She always looks tired
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>>2054361>runwaysShe's done a couple of runways but it's one of those shitty nobody brands, biggest i've seen was prob Chloe but oh dear. I know these are supposed to be ugly stylings and stuff, but in all of the pics she's a terrible model. And bear in mind even the ones i posted are more flattering shots. it's kind of pathetic that you click on the runway pics and see caption "10 year anniversary!" and you see it's all old lol
No. 2054567
>>2054503After reading her book, I can't help but view her as a stuckup whiney richgirl that never matured beyond laughing at courtney love for having nosejob, and praising herself for being called coolgirl by Beastie Boys kek. Not a fan of her music, but i'm sure there are some better tracks to find in her catalog though. But still, she seems so pretentious and her book genuinely surprised me with how immature and cringey she can be. Btw i just noticed Thurston wrote a book too, wonder if it's as bad as hers.
>>2054500This thread is all made of bands that equal "nepo connections + occasional sexual abuse allegations" + gossip from insider anons, idk what kind of milk do you expect but you're welcome to bring one.
No. 2054727
>>2054607Got it, but be the change you wanna see. I wanna keep the thread alive but not everyone here is like Glume or Phoebe. you're welcome to bring up new exciting cows
>>2054624What anon here said. I see Kim as a cow fit for the thread. But don't worry, Coco on her own is indeed not interesting enough to talk about for long.
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Imagine looking like right pic, then botching yourself and photoshopping yourself to look like the right one.
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glume's extremely profound take on trump's reelection
No. 2055029
>>2054970Wasn't expecting her to have ever been cute tbh. She looks outright deformed or inbred these days. Like if a character from the hills have eyes tried to become a coquette sugarbaby. Really have to wonder how she thinks she looks in her head.
>>2054990Remember when she claimed to be disabled to the point of regularly needing a wheelchair?
No. 2055059
>>2054990Sincerely, does she think she looks good? Her body is fine, even the tattoos are ok, but her
face! Like wax lips on the mouth of a Downsy little girl. Does she wear her lashes at that low angle like Marilyn Monroe on purpose, or…?
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>>2054990Lol, but there's more of this. the dramatics
>>2055029She botched herself with surgeries, but i it looks like she's also shooping her head smaller in all these pics.
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How is parading around Paris in a wheelchair on grifted money something made up?
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I got possible new cowish band, there's so much of them cropping around. Anybody heard of them? Nepo kids or just got lucky thanks to yapping about evil terfs?
Lambrini Girls
>Recently heralded by Iggy Pop as his “favourite new band”>basically came out of nowhere and randomly got "proposed" a record deal from Big Scary Monsters and City Slang, their first EP somehow got on NME 100 list>suddenly out of nowhere touring with Idles>still they bitch about elitism in music scene and have a song called Fithly Nepo Rich Kid>got in the news thanks to snapping at terfs and avid pro-trans talk >In the Kerrang! interview Lunny was quoted saying: “I will scrap any TERF, any day, in person, with my fists … ”>Trans rights are something the pair are vocal about and their song Terf Wars includes the lyrics “you’re not a feminist, your a stain on this earth, shut your stupid fg mouth you stupid fg terf”.https://www.nme.com/news/music/lambrini-girls-hit-back-at-graham-linehan-over-anti-trans-comments-3463813https://www.kerrang.com/lambrini-girls-youre-welcome-ep-punk-politics-phoebe-lunny-lilly-macieira-interview No. 2061091
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>>2061088I mean all that trans talk is nothing new for punk adjacent bands, but there's just something so cringey about them and these interviews. They're whining about rich capitalistic males,
problematic ppl in the scene, rich kids etc. but their sudden success and getting record deal, then random Iggy Pop ^ Idles endorsement makes you wonder. It doesn't happen "just like that"
Picrel dumbass juvenile bragging about pouring alcohol at people and Elon Musk mention lol
No. 2061100
They also got interviewed by Kathleen Hanna
https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/65135/1/kathleen-hanna-and-lambrini-girls-go-head-to-head-interview>>2061013You guys reminded her that she hasn't used a wheelchair in a good while, so now she's brought it back. I wonder what's up with her 150 k scam fund
No. 2061666
>>2061091Complaining about how “
problematic” the scene is whilst being endorsed by iggy pop is hilarious. If these chicks stepped foot in cbgb’s theyd keel over.
No. 2061743
>>2061666Precisely. It's like they all forget Iggy Pop fucked 13yo chicks and never regretted it, nah he wrote a song bragging about it already as an recovered oldfuck riding the "legend of punk" title. I mean plenty of ppl do but if Lambrini Girls accuse everyone of ignoring and praising sexual abusers, then they better do their research.
Feels like it's total opposite, 13yo Sable Star is treated as an icon exactly FOR being 13 and fucking old rockers. can't count the times Arrow de wilde posted Sable and Lori Maddox stamping "me" on Sable & name of her friend on Lori
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I don't get Viola / Glume's addiction of using these shrinking head apps, her whole head looks like glued onto a body that doesn't belong to her now