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>hey I passed my drivinng test
>but instead of celebrating let me start complaining again!
If you don't like your bike lessons why did you sign up babe just quit. She'll complain about something but also keep doing it. Oh I can't make videos today because of the salt level of the water in Croatia. Just quit YouTube then if you complain so much about not being able to it. Whining is just her personality now I guess?
I think it's normal to say y'all on the internet without being american, that being said if she said it outloud in her irish accent it would sound weird and forced as hell>>1291971>Whining is just her personality now I guess
was it not always?
At least she's being somewhat productive instead of it's too windy to work
as her usual.
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One step closer to true tradwifedom. Spawning will be next.
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So the Toxic Twosome got a new house and are already filling it with Halloween crap
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…. And she's already complaining about the bedrooms being too small
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Wonder how long she'll claim to not be able to film because of moving into the new house.
'A lot going on in the real world'.
Does Kaya not realise that most people have to function in the real world and hold down jobs too?
Girl is going to have a massive reality check in a few years when her channel is dead and she has to earn her money like the rest of us.
My bet is she's gonna be 35 or so when reality finally hits her and she goes back to college or some kind of job training. She's gonna wish she had started doing that years ago (now). Right now she's still deluded into thinking she can do YT full time.
But then again they have so many simps that they were able to get a new house so maybe they're set for life.
I'm thinking the simps she has now have been there for a long time and will eventually grow out of her.She's not doing anything to gain new fans so eventually she will be irrelevant.
Jake on the other hand may remain popular for longer but they will eventually split up.
She's gonna end up middle aged and long term sick on benefits blaming everyone and everything else but herself for her downfall.
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Get U a man who has a copy of the turner diaries?
I think I'll pass.
I love how he brought a quaint li'l basket because it would look "rural" for pictures, even if it is not actually convenient for bringing apples.
Rugged survivalist indeed.
It’s so fucking pretentious to me that it all for a photoshoot?? I mean dress like you want sure but has he ever showed interest in farming etc? I bet he goes home to play on his switch and edit on his macbook kek
Also Felvae is getting bigger and bigger
I'm starting to think she actually likes her buckteeth showing. She went to the lenghts of editing them whiter in this. Apart from you know, never closing her mouth for pics.>>1295761
If he wants to raise a family on his produce he'd should start trying to grow weed, because these 12 unripe apples are not gonna cut it
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He's dressing like this because he's been ass-kissing Lucy (wyrdisle) and Craig Fraser again - the fashy trad couple who used to run training camps for national action. They now run "cutesy" trad events where everyone has to dress like mentally deficient hobbits and talk about how pure and aryan they are.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-nazi-jihadis-mirror-investigation-4847059
Lauren and Adam attended one of their previous trad events in lockdown.
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So they have two cars, two motorbikes, a scooter, and rent to pay on their studio spaces. But they can't afford bigger housing? Are they just going into debt for this shit? I know the housing market is insane right now. But still…
I have a 2015 Jeep Renegade and it was about $15k USD, not sure how much that is in Irish currency. My guess is they got a loan for it. Like the other anons I seriously question how far Jake's simpbuxx are going to go. Imagine the payments for two cars, two motor bikes plus the insurance/gas/maintenance for both of those? There are creators with bigger audiences than Jake who still work irl jobs because they don't get enough from patreon/sponsorships etc to live off of.
Something isn't adding up.
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Anon you familiar with graal yoga? Fairly sure it's the same people in your pic. The goth/alt to fash pipeline is real. These people seem creepy as fuck. The folk horror, the redone sexual revolution, etc is attracting alt girls like flies to shit.
I just can't understand how easily everything comes for her! I'm 32 and I never had a car, I couldn't even pay for lessons! How come she got lessons, she passed AND got a jeep in like 1 month? Wtf?>>1298584>>1298756
Kaya's parents must be rich and support them, it makes NO sense otherwise. Neither Jake's music career or the duo joint simp coins could be enough to pay for this.>>1299002
Yes, they used to live off a combo of some of Kayas parents help and the selling of foot fetish services. Not only pics but guys would go to their house to sniff and lick her feet, they'd even clean the house…
Maybe she's doing something she's not proud of to get the money. You know what I mean? Working in daddy's business would be my guess. Now we have to follow this lead… maybe she HAS a job. A secretary job would be perfectly doable for her, would justify why she isn't on YouTube but still has money>>1299031
523 followers is not attracting people like flies… but like, explain wtf this is about?
>>1299075>maybe she HAS a job. A secretary job would be perfectly doable for her, would justify why she isn't on YouTube but still has money
Knowing Kaya I VERY much doubt this. She's had jobs before in her early YouTube days and was pretty open about it, she worked at a call center and later she worked for PayPal. She would bitch non stop about how much she fucking hated her PayPal job and how terrible it was and finally quit even though it was good money. She never said why it was so terrible though. Trust me if she had a job she would be complaining 24/7 about it on social media. I also don't think she'd be working for her dad since he lives in Spain. Selling feet pics though? It's definitely possible.>>1299031
This is creepy as fuck but it doesn't look goth at all to me tbh.
Yeah that is Craig Fraser who I mentioned. Him and his wife Lucy (Wyrdisle) wrote The Centurian Method, a book encouraging the far right to "turn the sedentary western human into a weapon of pure ferocity and power" - basically militarising the alt right. You can see the focus still hasn't changed, they just renamed it after they got outed as fash. >>299075
Instagram keeps removing his accounts, this one is a couple of weeks old so not many followers. He's friendly with some well known goth/pagan/folk horror people though.
I really wonder how these kind of people behaves irl. I have interacted online with one couple with the same vibe, they weren't creepy or unpleasant, but they seemed like plain middle class youth looking for an outlet in their plain lives.
The woman was making photoshots posing as kali naked, with bodypaint and swords in her hands, but in her stories she posed with her bubbletea, with a face that looked like your typical 20 something librarian : a bit chubby, with glasses and a ponytail.
I'm not linking their pages because they didn't behaved like cows, I just wanted to elaborate on the subject : bored middle class youth getting interested in esoterism and wanting to feel rebellious. I strongly prefer them to tradthots and wignats, they're mostly harmless weird people.
Most crunchy folkhorror pagan-y types are perfectly pleasant nerds. But there is a group of people who subscribe to antivax and racist ideas, especially those that adhere to the principles of Rudolph Steiner or madam Blavatski. But a lot of them just want to fuck around with maypoles and brew mead and shit.
But people like Frasier and his cohorts are so much worse IRL. This is the face they present to appear non-threatening and not dangerous. If this is what they consider a disguise, imagine what the real people are like.
Saged for blogposting. But I work with pre-christian Scandinavian history for a living, and have met far too many of these people. They will strike up a perfectly pleasant conversations, and start dropping in dogwhistles. If you have the nerve to contradict their "historical interpretations" they suddenly become quite stern, and calmly threaten to have you raped and killed. Don't let the goofy bullshit fool you, it's part of their approach.
Yeah and she only worked at Lush for one day before she got fired for not coming into work because it made her foot hurt.>>1299267
In that case maybe they're just maxing out credit cards.
I fully don't understand why they need an expensive car EACH when literally neither of them have to commute to any kind of job? How are they affording this? Not to mention the scooters/ bikes and studios.
Seriously if they really have so much money why not just fucking be smart and buy a house?!
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Adam looks like a bird shat on his face.
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Bitch, you have a studio that isn't "done" apparently.
Oh right, I forgot she used to work for PayPal but I'm wondering what was so terrible about it? I would think that it would be a little better than the Call Center. But right, she does tend to complain about her jobs like when she was working at I think Sephora and complained about how much her feet hurt after one shift. I don't think she lasted long there neither.
I'm more than sure that she probably is selling feet pics though. It's very low effort which is perfect for her because of how much of a lazy glutton she is.
I mean tbf I would still much rather hear Dorian's perspective than someone like Blaire White who has no idea what the fuck they're talking about and is just doing it for clicks. Still not gonna watch Dorian's video though.>>1302055
It was Lush not Sephora (not that it makes a difference). And you're right, she only lasted one day iirc.
Yeah he used to appear in her older videos but I think in one of her Q&A videos she mentioned that he didn't like being on the camera all that much so he probably was trying to get past that for her but ultimately couldn't. And besides, he was usually busy with school if I'm not mistaken.>>1302254>It was Lush not Sephora (not that it makes a difference). And you're right, she only lasted one day iirc.
Oh my bad.
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This is her car , not sure how new it is
It's not like they don't commute, they literally never go anywhere, not even for pleasure, nothing.
Why have 4 means of transportation when you go nowhere?
I don't think you're nitpicking at all anon, you're talking common sense. The toxic
twosome are just fucking retarded with money buying all these unnecessary things and aren't actually thinking about what they're spending money on. And I cannot wait until the day their fans wake the fuck up and see that they're throwing away money on two morons who are lazy fat fucks (okay well 1/2 is a lazy ass) and the money train starts flowing and they're stuck with all this expensive shit that they can't pay off because their fans finally opened their eyes to the truth about them.
*Money train STOPS flowing
My bad kek
Kaya: I looooove nature!
Also Kaya: check out our second SUV!
I'm pretty sure Kaya is the one who's going to become irrelevant before Jake because she does fuck all these days except complain and spend on frivolous shit. Jake may have a longer lifespan because of the TikTok but you're right, that's going to get old soon and his vlogs don't rake in views so he'll be screwed too.>>1303519
Yeah same. I'm sure they will support his ass a little longer but I don't think there are many of them compared to the emo tweens so they really won't be making as much as they do right now when this day comes.
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Never change Kaya.
Actually, please change. You're infuriating.
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"there's literally no cool people in Belfast and no one to hang out with"
does anyone remember the shebeast that is Raven Sparks? Kaya really reminds me of her in some ways, especially how she has to find the negatives in EVERY LITTLE THING and can't be positive just once. Just complain complain complain all the damn time>>1304469
kek is she still using that seriously old photo of herself as her main pic? kaya, you dont look like that anymore. get over it
Exactly. Never forget the cats or the budgies.
Honestly, I could puke. I can’t have kids and I knew that early. It changed my life in ways I’m not gonna go into here. And here’s this bish…(learn2sage)
That’s an insane thing for you to be jealous of. What does her starting a family, like most women do, have anything to do with your infertility?
I think having the baby will actually keep her in NZ for a while where it seems better for her. Also, are we sure that they aren’t married already?
Remember last time when they announced they were going to get married? Freyja made a huge deal out of it, it was even going to be a livestreamed event with tickets (!)… then she dumped him and ran to Europe. lol
I don't think she will talk about their status ever again.
I can buy it being something that she THOUGHT was the mature option, and she was just lucky that Mr Owl was keen to get back together when it blew up in her face, ie:
IBF: I really want to travel.
Owl: I never do.
IBF: I guess it makes more sense for us to split.
IBF: Well I guess I am free to go to Germany now. Oh here is that cute Matthias guy I may have flirted with one time.
Matthias: You seem to have a high profile and might be good for my cough
art career. Let's get married so you can stay in Germany and plug my merch forever!
IBF: Germany is harder than I thought it would be. Maybe a new town with a bigger place where I can totally hide from Matthias.moves
Nope. Oh Mr Owl I do miss you and feel that I made a mistake.
Mr Owl: BRB dumping younger lookalike. OK SINGLE NOW.
IBF: Fuck it, I'm going home.
Oh no wait I'm going to Scotland to create my dream land in a way that might entice Mr Owl to leave NZ.
Oh no wait Paisley is kind of meh. Oh no I got deported again. Oh no there is COVID.
Fuck it let's have that baby.
Anon, you nailed it.
I’m kinda baffled by the “she’s gonna be a great mom” comments here, given that this board has been watching and snarking about IBF’s train wreck of a life through various countries and relationships for years now.
Don't pretend you don't understand what she was trying to say.>>1305662>>1305719
I was surprised first when she said that having kids doesn't mean your life is over because I found that very mature, but then she talked about still going to festivals and stuff like that. There's no way you can bring a baby or a small kid to the kind of festivals she goes to. Music would be too loud and babies need a lot of rest, otherwise they would probably cry a lot. Imagine also a 2 year old kid seeing some goth or metahead with extreme make up and pircings, wouldn't the kid freak out? Doesn't sound to me like the best enviroment for your small kid to be. Kids get lost so easily and, while I don't have any prejudice towards people who dress ''scary'', it's obvious any festival attracts people with bad intentions, even if it's only for stealing wallets.
About all the goth-themed stuff she'll buy for her kid it's going to be hilarious. I seethis going two ways: her trying a lot to buy her child every damn thing she needs in its goth version (even if plastic bottles have BPA) or surrendering to buy affordable stuff because of prices and realising now the other effort is ridiculous.
I hope the kid doesn't intoxicate herself with all that hairspray or freaks out when her mother makes up her eyes like they are bleeding. Haven't seen how her place in NZ is but I remeber how her last apartment in Germany HAD to be painted all in black and not only it looked like shit aesthetically and because of the dust being more visual in dark surfaces, but it would also have smelled like paint for weeks and that's toxic
That was beautiful anon. Beautiful and accurate lol.
I dunno about this. I agree with others that I don't think she'll be a shit mother, she may actually be a decent one but I also agree that she's gonna totally use that baby as a goff accessory while it's still young and not aware of what's going around it
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The kid won't be used to that the first time she sees some weird ass goth make up because their parents don't have very spooky styles (apart from the bloody eyes of Freyja). Also, they won't go around the house on their exaggerated looks 24/7 (Mr.Owl's is quite modest) they will probably wear their everyday look that is much more softer and simple. And who knows, maybe Mr. Owl or Freyja loosen up a bit with their white talk foundation and eyeliner because of time and money (probably not). This normal situation can't be compared to the few days the kid will be for the first time in a festival and see some pic related for the first time. Maybe she'll be used to it around 6 years old but I doubt she doesn't freak out somehow when it gets late and dark. Talk all we want about the kid being used to dress goth but children are easily frightened.
Sage because ranting about nothing.
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Most alternative festivals like M'era Luna don't allow kids below age twelve. And the ones that do serve as perfect evidence that kids give no fucks, adults do. An afternoon at the renfair will teach you that.
if a kid is terrified of someones make-up or get-up they should probably just get over it
sooner the better
besides its not like theres lone 8 year olds roaming around at such things.
if theyre young and there, theyre likely with a parent or guardian who can console them if they freak out
and that parent or guardian is probably pretty weird looking too, or they wouldnt be there
its not where id bring a young child, as that just seems like a huge hassle
but idk it just seems like pearl-clutching over a non-existent issue
most kids of metalheads/punkrockers ive come across are actually substantially more well-adjusted than the ones with helicopter parents, or the ones that were raised by an ipad
Exactly. These are adult spaces. I've been to a lot of the same festivals as Freya, and there are teenagers there, but no small children.
Also, I'm not a big fan of Freya. But I'd still assume that if her child suffered an anxiety attack she would remove them from the situation. I love how worked up pearl clutching Anon gets over a completely hypothetical situation.
I think a greater concern at goth festivals (I haven't been to one, just normie ones) is there's usually a fetish tent or fashion show based on what I've seen online from vloggers, even normie festivals often have some vagina or sexual themes somewhere.
Aside, kids generally react to people who act aggressively, goths and alternative people not acting aggressively isn't gonna scare them regardless of how they are dressed.
>>1305984>don't pretend you don't understand what I was trying to say
Nta but what exactly were you trying to say? It sounds like you're just salty she got pregnant and you couldn't. Even though she had infertility issues so she's lucky to be prengant. I'm salty that the toxic
twosome can afford a house and 2 cars without actually working. What of it.
>>1306434>if a kid is terrified of someones make-up or get-up they should probably just get over it
sooner the better
I see you agree with me here but you seem to forget kids need help with that too, overcoming fears as a kid needs the help of adults. >but idk it just seems like pearl-clutching over a non-existent issue
The nonexisting issue being that some anon said that ''children give no fucks about weird stuff' here >>1306314
and ''Kids only get scared of things they don't understand'' here >>1306264
. It's like some people here can't connect the dots and see that small children that can't fully understand some things will get scared of them instead of not caring. At this point I'm responding to people that have no idea about a child's rationality.>>1306443
Thanks <3>>1306504>Aside, kids generally react to people who act aggressively, goths and alternative people not acting aggressively isn't gonna scare them regardless of how they are dressed.
Do you really think some children fear monsters (for example) because they think monsters might be aggressive to them instead of how they look? Think about children being scared of clowns, sometimes a fear it's all about the appeareance.
Responding to the last paragraph, I mean it's quite clear kids are afraid of monsters attacking
them and not just looking weird, half of Disney characters look weird as hell but kids like them because they're friendly and harmless. And clowns generally act strange as part of the look, it's behavior that is frightening not appearances. Kids generally love weird, colorful, outlandish, cartoonish appearances (see: every kids character ever) so I think the uwu goths scary
line of thought is overstated. Especially when in this hypothetical situation, mom and dad literally also have the same style of fashion.
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I understand what you say but I still believe appeareance plays a much bigger role than anything else. And of course I don't believe trad goth style, cybergoths, metalheads or punks are perse scary, but there are some of them with very extreme looks and I'd say no matter how nice and friendly they truly are, any small kid would probably have fear as their first impression. Like I said before, Freyja and Mr.Owl don't dress like pic related. The idea of parents being present being some sort of help is true to a certain degree but again it's very common watching a scary/sci-fi film with your parents as a kid and still being frightened at night during weeks. Usually a small kid's fear is irrational until they are old and mature enough to rationalize it. Cartoons these days, specially the very popular socal animation,are colourful and seem ''friendly'' because they look really dumb, not weird. Pic related-like individuals don't look like children cartoons at all. And I don't find any problem with them looking the way they want, but since goth has many ties with death, nihilism, the occult, macabre stuff and similar topics it seems naive to pretend that those goths whose looks are very inspired on corpses,BDSM and paranormal stuff won't make a huge first impression on small kids. Just like that scary-looking Drag Queen with horns reading in a public library.
I'm not telling anyone what to do with their children so please refrain from replying to my post like I'm doing that.
Sage because it's clear that my posts hypothesizing about IBF are way above and this is an approach to an abstract topic.
Didn't say the opposite. >>1306935
You have no reading comprehension at all, sweetie, maybe you're the one who's 12 and stupid.
Where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns
Just when I'd stopped whiteknighting,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was attention,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair
Just adopt then?>>1305845
Bingo. The baby serves a double purpose of securing him with her and letting them leech off the government.
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Proof Rudehun lurks here
Yeah. And whenever Rudehog is mentioned some WK shows up to explain how he's actually really brilliant and musically gifted and NOT jealous of Dorian! You're just jealous of him shuttup!
Oh, and how the sexual assault allegations against him have to be false because the wife of the guy he assaulted went over to his house once, so there! It's pretty obvious he visits the boards
Read the last board. But basically someone came on here claiming to know him in real life, said he was a freeloader and his apartment smelled like catshit, and that he had a history of groping guys, including her husband. Don't know how true any of that is, except the freeloading, because he ebegs constantly. But it seemed to really get under his skin. He's been kicked out of a bunch of different goth communities for being a toxic
piece of shit. He also has a long running fued with Dorian, because they're both autistic trans people who monologue about bullshit for hours and constantly start drama. But Dorian is more popular.>>1307543
Don't know about that. The first thing I heard was their blackfriday video.
Ruadhan calling us
weirdos? Hello pot meet kettle.
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Saged for nitpick. But for some reason Lauren's breast reduction is making her look chunkier. Usually that's not the case.
Except none of those are white supremacists, that we know of. Red is an easy colour to dye, and it looks eyecatching without being as much as a commitment as fashion colors.>>1308340
Not always. Sometimes big boobs make people look overstuffed and chunkier.
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>>1308376>Except none of those are white supremacists,
Well, I didn't say anything about that, I was just pointing out how popular this dye hair colour is.>Red is an easy colour to dye
Is it? I thought the exact same opposite and to be honest I think it can look very ugly and fake easily (Jade, Darling Desi). Anyways, I was just rambling about hair colour.
I like Darling Desi, she's sweet and wholesome. But she looks like Pippi Longstocking with this getup (but maybe that's her goal). She looked better blonde imo.
Red is easy if you're dying it over natural hair, if you're trying to get a specific shade of red by bleaching then dying it it can be difficult, especially if you want it to look natural.
Exactly. Red can be dyed over light and medium shades, so it doesn't require bleaching. Also, some of the crunchier types use henna, so their shade range is kind of limited.>>1308452>
Well, I didn't say anything about that, I was just pointing out how popular this dye hair colour is.
No worries Anon. You just said you didn't know who Lauren was, and I was saying she's a white supremacist cow. Sorry if that came across weird.
My bad, I thought ''redhead'' implied a natural colour like natural gingers have (or natural auburn). A reddish hair colour doesn't count as a redhead (reason I used '') person to me, that's why I think that achieving a natural look with this hair colour is very difficult. All the ytbers I listed have different oranges/reds and most of their hair colour doesn't look authentic or doesn't suit their skintone, despite how easy it is to achieve any reddish tone through dye or henna.
I don't know who Lauren is so I didn't know she was a white supremacist but that pose in her picture is cringe.
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Well speak of the racist devil.
Really enhancing the creepy folk horror vibes
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how much clothing does this douche have, he wears the same shit in vids & stopped doing his stupid overly edited angled pix to be a showoff. aside from citing that killstar wouldn't pay him & having image issues or ~being so busy~ to do it. this is going to be like the merch & signed pix, something he does for a bit before he drops it. the few times he did a few look at what i'm wearing things with cringey posing. but yes, he can go onbe tone deaf & flaunt his e-fashion buys for all his snaccs.
i like how he blurred the speedometer when riding the motorcycles cos he was probably speeding.
what the fuck are they doing with those rented spaces? they both showed their 'decorating' and what, keep paying rent to not use them. fake at least might still do band practice in his, while kaya is complaining about having to bring shit down from the attic to bring it to the new house, like that's literally what moving is, then will faff around for bit before grabbing at all of the excuses as to why she can't film.
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She did not lose weight.
I know people here like to call anyone a size 10 a whale but honestly, she looks like a landwhale because she wants to. With the right clothing, that fits better, accessories like a waist cincher or belt, there are many girls (goth or not) that manage to look super hot at this weight. She could look thick but she insists on dressing like she's still stick-thin with all that hanging shapeless fabric. Her hair and makeup shapes are all wrong so it makes her head look extremely round, the double chin is then the focus of everything. If anyone NEEDS a style consultant it's Kaya. She doesn't need to stop being goth at all, just learn how not to do everything in her power to look her worse.
And also, she acts like she's just waiting until she is thin again to stop hiding behind the shapeless tents, drab hair… Honey, live in the moment, stop trying to recreate your teens.
It's like she doesn't realize sge can buy black clothes by regular
brands, in a nice fit and fabric. It's like she's a hostage of these cheapy alternative brands. She looks like a "novelty" in the form of a person. Not that I'm a "normie", maybe I'm even more "extreme looking" than her for a normal person but for fucks sake, I HATE alternative tackiness. There's some itens that look so halloweeny it hurts. Kaya is one of those people (like emily boo) that only picks those, the
corniest everything. Ew
This is a nic3 look for her she should do more like this rather then the unflattering neon pink black looks or the awful anime contact lenses and bag that’s twice size of her full of key ring charms it just looks tacky and bad but this is more elegantly done
exactly. dre ronayne is at least as heavy but she knows how to dress for her body type.>>1309760
we know, that has been discussed in this thread already. see:>>1291971>>1298584
Oh, she's 100% loving this latest ED ride of hers,. The way she talks about her body on instagram is a dead giveaway she's still ana. I mean, look at this fucking thumbnail, she has the classic little arm sticking out just to show how thin it is.
I guess that in the days we live in, with all the pressure to be woke, dorian likes to be seen as "someone who openly discusses her problems, for awareness and visibility to the cause
" instead of someone who glorifies wrong shit.
She always does this:
-Says someyhing misogynistic: "it's just boys beig boys because besides presenting female at all times and liking dicks I'm actually a transgender male"
-Obssesses over drugs and alcohol, is a junkie: "I only tell stories of the old days". Confesses she still uses
-only talks about losing weight but totally not in an ED way. Loses weight: only talks about how EDs are bad, and how she's over the moon with her body, posting thinspo.
This is obviously just a way for her to keep interacting with the ED, the ana world etc while still posing as someone who is ackshually educating you on the subject so you better learn and not ever criticize her. Sure, Jen
>>1309751>She doesn't need to stop being goth at all
She never was one at all but I agree with your assessment. Her issue has always been that she doesn't know how yo dress for her body type and she seriously needs to get some style help. But on the other hand, she gets her ass kisses from her fans so much that she more than likely doesn't see anything wrong with her ill-fitting clothing.
And honestly I feel that the reason that her and really just any of these fake Goth YouTubers hold onto these tacky brands like a life preserver is because they desperately want ot fit a style that they just aren't. It's something I've noticed with a lot of people who call themselves Goth but don't listen to Goth music and are just poseurs but these people think that so long as they deck themselves in any of these cheap, alternative clothes for uwu edginess, it will give them Goff cred.
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Huh. So I guess that's a thing.
Marissa Cloutier aka pokeprincess aka digitalprxncess is (or at least was) in the hardcore scene. So idk if she counts as alt. But she was arrested for child endangerment. I should probably take it to the tiktok or camwhore thread. >>1305977
Ntayrt, but I'm sure she has a low sex drive. I just think she likes the attention of showing off her cleavage. Men with a fetish for goth women will drool over a pig in eyeliner and fishnets (or men in general) though. Look at Gravy. Not saying she's ugly. She's just a painfully average, apple-shaped woman without her makeup and clothes.>>1306789
Are you retarded? >>1309674
Exactly. Kaya would look fine if she dressed and did her makeup more flattering for her weight. She just is stuck on the mindset that she'll be thin again without putting in any work. If only her fans suggested clothing. Like, "I love this dress and i think it would look great on you" instead of coddling her and telling her she looks great.
>>1310448>"I love this dress and i think it would look great on you" instead of coddling her and telling her she looks great.
I think part of the problem is that as so many have stated in previous threads, Kaya's fanbase are mostly tweens. Kids that are still in high school with the rare young adult and maybe a handful of people her age older but predominantly it's tweens. And edgy tweens are more than likely to like anything that looks edgy and gawf that they don't really take into account shape and fit.
If Kaya had an older fanbase, I feel she more than likely would've gotten constructive helpful critique on how to develop a style that flatters her body because she's already made it pretty clear that she doesn't have the drive to actually lose weight so the best thing she can do now is just learn to dress for her current body now.
Don't try to exaggerate, I didn't say that and I posted a pic to illustrate my post. At least you could have taken a minute to try and read my post before attempting a reply.>>1310739
Hewwo, thanks again.
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is that a fucking poke bowl? for BREAKFAST?
Just the fruit and coffee is breakfast, what is in the picture is a heavy lunch.
She seems to think that as long as she has a meal that involves a few healthy ingredients, it doesn't matter how big her portions are. And meals like this wouldn't even be so bad if she spent the rest of the day doing very intense activities which would require a heavier breakfast. But it's not like Kaya is tilling a field by hand or working construction or even on her feet all day. She's laying about fucking around with her phone and complaining. She's supposed to have a personal trainer now. But I think this will go the way of all her other health kicks.
Also nitpick, but if she and stumpy actually prepared their own meals they would have more control over their diet and save a ton of money.
for obssessive nitpicking about the toxic
duo, go to their own board. Discussing the size of her rabbit food portions it's tiring here, the anachans who care, please take it there. She's not gaining weight because of these, it's the sweets she eats daily, and you know it.>>1310188
I made that post and I agree with you 100%, it was just to avoid getting into this discussion again. So, to correct: she doesn't need to stop dressing "darkly inclined" Or "she doesn't need to stop wearing black and heavy makeup", just lay off the fashion sense of a 12 year old in hot topic for the first time. It's not that a 30 year old has to stop being alternative, just stop being fucking tacky and ill fitted when you're not even PAYING for the items… blows my mind. She would even feel less like a fat shapeless blob if she did. If I was her, I'd gave up on trying to be so thin that every clothing will fit and I'd invest my time and effort on changing my wardrobe entirely. She has so many clothes that maybe she even has some things that fit better. Just try everything on and cast out the ones that make you feel like a whale, if it's every item you own, get new ones. Honestly, her body isn't horrible, just another regular chubby broad. She herself creates an impossible standard for herself, using so many old pics where she's thin, of course people will compare.
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Adam getting his antivaxx on.
I got bored…and watched a part of Jake's latest vlog. 5 days late here, but it really blows my mind about how far they are stretching themselves. YouTube and streaming paying out that well?? Like someone above counted 6 studios. I have seen 3 that are rented spaces so far. Including one he is renting using part of it just for his clothes! He's far far away from being any fashionista. Maybe, if you got that much shit…mmm. So they have these rented spaces, just moved, new furniture on the way, new vehicles like cars, scooters, bikes. And driving lessons, piano lessons, and a personal trainer too for Kaya.
My favorite part was him riding his motorcycle, telling the story about his issues with a previous lemon Honda he bought. He was like - I had to get my lawyer involved and as a youtuber I have a really good lawyer. And Honda gave in because they don't want to deal with "a youtuber with close to half a million followers". Oh the ego.(sage your blog)
Jake probably got her the car so he can continue to fuck other girls in his so she's none the wiser. >>1309102
You can see this has been photoshopped because of the background lol
the leading theory was that they were being supported by their parents but it has been established that Jake has nothing to do with his family, while Kaya's parent's are not rich.
We know they aren't a huge success, not enough to fund this unnecessary lifestyle.
Does anybody else thinks it's starting to get strange? Like, not just poor money management but supicious? tinfoil here but at this point I'm fairly certain they have a side hustle we don't know of. They clearly haven't regular jobs. I'd bet on secret onlyfans or similar accounts, something hard to find out, like only feet pics. I thought about dealing, but they barely even leave the house and talk to anyone, so it can't be it. They have no way to get or sell drugs… can yyou imagine Jake in the corner trying to sell drugs with the other "chavs"? kek
Yeah it is very strange.
Realistically, are their channels making enough to pay for 4 studio spaces, 2 motorbikes and 2 SUVs?
I know Jake gets lots of donations on his stream though, but surely not that much?
Digging done becouse no life.
Uased social blade for stats.
est. Earnings from yt last 30 days: 20-316$
Patreon is like 1$/vid, and she has 161 people on there. No uploads this month, so 0$.
No vid, so no sponsorship money for this month.
Nothing on Insta looks like a payed post for the last month.
Jake: Earnings from yt last 30 days 334-5.2k$
Patreon 3 tears, 1/5/10$, got 401 of them. So lowest earning would be 401$, but we know his fans throw money at him, so if we count half of them for 5%, we get 1200$ from them. Paytreon keeps 20% i think, so 950$ to the bank.
I did not have the energy to look through his vida looking for sponsors, but I would say skil share, nordic vpn or some other brand would have him sponsors for like 1 vid a month? A low point to sell for would be 20$/1000 wieves, and average for him seams to be 30-80k, counting in 30k that would be 600$. If we think of a better earning, like 50$ for 50k, we look at 2500$ instead.
He barley uases instagram so no income there.
We have a minimum earning of 1300$, but if we look at a bit of a higher earning, and his vid rev was on the higher side, we would look at 8k$ a month.
I'm to stupid to figure out the high/low rate for ni so I split it down the middle and did 30%, leaving him with 900$-5.6k$ a month.
What we doubt count here is the fact that fans throw money at him duaring live streams. One a month and he has 500-2k$ extra.
If we are on the higher end of the scale for Jake, I dont think he would have any problem on supporting them both with a normal life style. Hoever. What they are doing now does not look all that normal, unless he has saved a bunch of money and gone on a spree now. Looking at the bike he got now, new that would be like 20k£, and he had a little bit of money from some old bike to out in to it. Saving half his earning (counted on high end) would get him that bike in 6 months, meaning that his life style is kind of plosebal.
But then again I have no clue what they would pay for housing and the studios. That honestly just looks like a really fast way to spend all earnings and getting close to nothing back.
Anyone got any reasonable guesses on on there bills, if we now have a guestemate on there income?
Anons are forgetting the insane simps this annoying little man somehow has who donate in the thousands to him regularly. I think that's the secret with all suspiciously wealthy e-celebs. I know peachmilky used to (maybe still does) have one weird simp who would send her thousands as well as expensive cameras and stuff. All it takes is a couple of crazies who think they're in love with the e-celeb and have too much spare money. Hard to believe since he's insufferable but it's a fixation for the fans.
An anon posted screenshots of these crazy donations in this thread before so that's verified.
Nahh she's just a spooky skeleton enjoying her near death experience 'n victim
I agree anon, they clearly have to be doing something else that is funding their indulgent lifestyle. Kaya selling feet pics is plausible because I mean, it's only photos of your feet and I feel like most of her potential clients wouldn't even know she had a YouTube channel so there's no way she would be outed. Selling dirty underwear is another plausible one. Think about it. They hardly leave their house so they both wouldn't have to worry about smelling like body odor out in public and I doubt the two have sex anymore so there's nothing really stopping them and we know dismissive Jake can be towards Kaya.
We can't really suggest cam modeling because if they did do this, they would've been outed by now unless Kaya drastically changes her appearance to where she's almost non-recognizable. >>1313391
This too. It's not so much Kaya but Jake who is rolling in the simp money. Kaya really doesn't make that much money on Patreon/YouTube alone compared to Jake, it probably was like that back when she was more active and Jake was still starting out but the roles have now swapped.
I'm also bewildered why these people cling to Jake. Out of all the alternative guys to do that, why him? >>1313401
I just take pleasure nkowing that he'll never be like Kyo ever. Kyo is talented, Jake is a talentless hack who's only relevant because of mostly teenage girls whom I'm sure make up most of his viewers who watch those TikTok react videos. I don't get how that kinda content is seen as enjoyable.
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is there anyone who doesn't
have adhd at this point? just wait for her to start blaming literally everything on it.
For real. Honestly people are just autistic and in love with him. They feel as though they have a genuine connection with somebody they’ve totally idolized. They’re under the false impression that he’s this adorable wholesome guy because they probably never saw shit from the old day when his whole internet presence was a flop (like that time that he punched a door in his shitty little call centre job in front of some middle manager and spoke about it after like he was this Joker maverick shoving it to big capitalism).
Gives the energy of that “I saved my minimum wage for months to buy Good American jeans” tweet.
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Mara being an asexual creative spirit. Hanging out with Lauren has been so good for her.
Being a whore is hard, often dangerous work. What mara is doing is selling low effort lewds under the guise of "art" so that she doesn't have to admit what she's doing.
I mean, the naked body as the subject of art and all that. But I doubt that's why anyone is buying these.
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Just a couple of extremely hetero guys hanging out shirtless together in a totally masculine way. As you do…
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Did a little bit of lurking on old IBF instagram posts and someone dropped his handle in the comments and this is what happened when I clicked it. I guess he deleted it?
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Nta but wonder if he lurks here, if I search the name it's definitely his but the page goes nowhere.
Probably? Or some fangirl who lurks/posts here snitched, saying some bitches online were stalking him and he panicked. kek
His page was just regular goth posting pics of himself and his art. Literally nothing milky.
I found him through his tagged photos
) on instagram. His username is schwarzkittel.germany
Adderall addiction saga when?>>1316013
Yeah, she probably died from her 'beetus. She's absolutely disgusting. >>1318270
Kek the Chicago scene hated her, the cali scene also hated her. Just curious, were you close to her because you felt bad for her? Are you aware of her trying to fuck literal minors?
Hm, yeah she seemed to do that with younger people. These Rozz fans are fucking insane. Her and Casey (is he still in jail?). What was she like in the 2000s? Same? I only was aware of her in the 2010s.
Also, not being a dick, just don't want you to get banned, but sage goes in the email field.
>>1318360>These Rozz fans are fucking insane.
A decent chunk of hardcore Rozz/CD fans are batshit, I swear every few months or so I stumble on one that has a ton of mental illnesses and is trying to skinwalk as Rozz really hard
Has to be the musician with the weirdest fan base in this scene
I like his work too, just, some of the more intense fans take his shit way too seriously, want to have this same dark, unhinged persona
Very forced, but still edgelordy and weird
I suppose I somewhat understand younger fans being drawn into this, the whole tragic, attractive, tortured genius thing
I can believe being him being a dick, I feel if he was predatory, that would be more well documented, especially considering today’s atmosphere of people being more willing to openly talk about this sort of thing
But who knows, the man was pretty fucked up in a lot of ways
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Lmfao these lyrics, man
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Oh man. This looks like a good cow. Too bad she's not more active.
Has she got a lolcow forurm? I would love to read up on her. Any websites anything that has this story about her.
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I don’t think you’ll ever find anything like that
From what I can tell, she wasn’t hugely active online, a lot of her antics seem focused in irl goth communities
I’d love to know more about the shit she got up to irl but I don’t think many people that associated with her would even know about a site like this
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>>1319374>>1319033> Chicago scene hated her> moved to cali> cali scene hated her> has picrel dress> has rozz's jewelry, lyric sheets, and apparently some of his ashes > no one knows where any of this went> briefly obsessed with 69 eyes before going back to her rozz obsession > had diabetes and forgot to do anything about it, leading to panic attacks> invited a 17yo to live with her sounds like our Gravey> had an alcholic roommate who hated her and moved out because she's psycho> neighbors hated her> Only Theater of Pain is nice to her out of pity> fucking dies > no one talks about anything except for her rozz Williams collection
I have stories, but don't really want people knowing who I am or the people I'm associated with. Just know she was crazy. I'm sure anyone who knows her can tell you the same.
If you speed on narrow country lanes, obviously you're going to crash, what a dumbass.
Also "GOTH CRASHES EXPENSIVE SPORTS BIKE" fucking cringe title.
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Saged because not exactly news. But "i only touch up my roots" is clearly bullshit. You fry your hair all the time.>>1319382
Too bad he's fine. Better ask his simps to buy him a new spare bike.
This is new bike that he crashed showing off .sure I think they won money on lottery as look how much new stuff they buying .miss toxic
not put video out in 3 months . something going on there.also hate way he use goth in everything to views.
Winning the lottery is quite rare but the smart ones don't tell anyone when they do win. I mean, it's small, but it is a possibility.
I was the anon who brought up the question of them having a side hustle, my humble opinion is that they are doing very niche fetish things. I am somewhat involved in the fetishy/perverted side of the world and I assure you that selling used underwear(or socks) is VERY easy, very doable anonymously. You can even sell them on regular marketplaces like ebay, you just describe the panties as "used, dm for more info" and the guy will ask you like how many days you wore them, how do you look like… sometimes they'll ask for pics but it's common to send pics wihout the face. If the pervert likes it, you got a customer!
There's also the selling of feet pics. If you got some perverts "foot type", alluring heels etc you don't even have to show anything but feet, shoes, etc. If she does the more racy ones she can pose her feet with Jake's dick or any non identifiable body part. You just have to find a niche and pay attention to things that give you away so you don't get recognized. I BET they're selling special orders for random white dudes who have no idea who they are.
It's either this or the lottery. There isn't any option left
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Still beating that dead horse. Erh, swan.
100% feel she’s just using this to make her dull life seem interesting - I doubt she truly cared about this swan in any significant way
Wow how quirky, making friends with wild birds, truly the goffick Snow White
the farmer didn't call police if it had been me would have got him done for speeding .he could have killed someone way he was driving .,20k bike anyone see photos of him with ,400 pounds new joker helmet he is topples and again pants down to see his private
Only matter time they be other crash
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This woman really doesn’t know how to use Google, does she? Every week with this.
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Oh you spoiled brat! Do you think this is cute?
Of course she doesn't play piano. She obviously lacks any interest in music when her favourites are the most popular "goth" songs and then cheesy pop from the 90s. She wouldn't be stimulated learning a new instrument because it would just be annoying noise to her. She lacks depth in everything she does. >>1326725
The people she's hanging out with are only there since her and Jake have their own transport now. They're being used like how they used others for their vehicles. Shallow friendships for shallow people.
45:00>the Lolita community is more toxic than ancient vampires
Mwahaha best part of the video
"I find feminists equally as entitled as goth posers, personally."
She's fully lost it, everything about her mannerisms in that video are just…so weird.
I hope she gets some kind of psych help because I do enjoy her videos much more than any other cow on here.
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Is it cowtipping to report her to the police for a welfare check? Genuinely worried about the delusions she's entertaining in that video, she could genuinely be at a risk to her mum or herself.
Don't. First of all, she is not describing a current situation. Welfare checks only work for acute emergencies. Second of all, police are not equiped or trained to be any good at this. Uk police have a history of responding to welfare check requests with physical force and restraints. This can be dangerous to everyone involved, and would probably discourage her from seeking help.
Unless someone is actually about to hurt themselves or others, calling the police is a bad idea, and tends to make the situation more dangerous. They are not mental healthcare professionals.
I thought her spending lockdown having sex with tulpas who were even so kind as to wear tulpa condoms was nutty enough. When it comes to kids killing parents there is a muuch higher rate of it happening with autist neets, though it's usually males.>>1329441
I feel like she'd only waste services. The last time she willingly went to hospital she fought to get the bed (whinged about it being so hard) and then walked like a day later because she could hear some other mentally ill person down the hall making noise. Her mom brought her home after all that fussing to get in. The mom needs to be the one making a call and either getting her sectioned or removed from the home. Doesn't appear like she'll ever do that.
Her mum could be in her mid 50s or 60s
You’re making it sound like she’s mid 80s
Her mom is not yet retired at any rate. But she's talked before about her family not being willing to discuss mental health, such as not awknowledging that she had an eating disorder until she started to suffer medical consequences, not awknowledging her alcoholism, even if we've all seen what a drunken mess she's been, and not being willing to admit she was molested by a male relative. I kind of think they're just trying to ignore it. Which is a terrible idea of course, because look at the state of her.
In her relapse video she talked about how her mum was praising her for losing weight, one of the things you really shouldn't say to a former anachan. I doubt if they know how to deal with her mental state.
UK mental health services are super underfunded and really strained so it can be super hard to actually get access to treatment in or out, there's unfortunately a lot of cases here where people who should be in inpatient care aren't and then they end up causing harm to themselves or others because there's just not the resources to provide the care these people need, lot of people slip through the cracks.
Pandemic has been making it even worse as the NHS has been postponing medical appointments in a whole range of fields due to the strain on the system
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I feel bad for her too. Blogpost but I knew Amy Burdett/Ariel/Arabella Starchild etc etc from the infamous x-factor audition IRL through mutuals and Dorian reminds me of her - constantly churning out bizarre delusional ramblings and bursting into song randomly. She had an online relationship with an army dude, he ghosted her when he realised she was crackers and she became obsessed with him and thought the army were bugging her house and stalking her - she ended up stabbing herself in the neck and no one found her body for days. Same sad loner existence slowly self destructing.
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Sage because it's not news to anyone, but Kaya cannot dress herself. She complains about chavs, but looks like a chav mom.
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Last week she had her nails done this week her guy friend and her went to get Halloween nail now she on her tick tox going on how bad nails are .dear god she looks so bad in dose pants .
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YouTube is ment to be her job but here she is after been out all day doing nothing just sitting around .I love two know how long this friendship will last before Jake stop it.
>>1331813>doesn't autism have a really strong link to schizophrenia too?
no, it doesn't. but I'm pretty sure some drugs can have lasting effects on your brain especially if you're predisposed to mental illness in the first place.>>1331676
isn't the guy she's been hanging out with an obviously gay guy, or am I thinking of someone else
I don’t get it why bitch online about it? she saw the person doing her nails 10 times why didn’t she say something thing after the first nail was done??????>>1332024
lmao you are right there is no difference between her painted nails and unpainted nails
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And here's Lauren appreciating her manly man™ once again. In this clip there's some initiation ritual going on and ofc the flag is present. Any new thoughts or just same olde?
I'm also an oldfag and I also thought it was highly dramatized, though she obviously did have a mental breakdown at some point. I also had a tinfoil that part of the reason she posted the video was to make the lolitas feel sorry for bullying her and make sure nobody ever bullies her again because she's so mentally fragile.
However, I am by no means a mental health expert, and after reading comments on here and youtube, I realized I'm better off not presuming anything because realistically I don't know shit about such things.
i misworded a little oopsie, what i meant to ask was isn't there a strong overlap/genetic link. i meant to imply maybe a possible misdiagnosis. there's the drug use/abuse variable for sure but i was also thinking about how women develop symptoms later in age than men typically do as well.>>1331961
probably but she seems so into it like she genuinely believes it? maybe she just really enjoys getting high off her own brain farts tho.
Yeah. They were there last year too. Lifting heavy shit, standing around in the mud, and wanking it to racial purity.
Craig frasier is a real violent headcase. Not an entrylevel white supremacist leader. They're in deep.
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Your friends go to events thrown by a guy who talks about how great ethnic cleansing is all the time, but it's not something you want to speak up about. But oh no, the forest rangers cut a tree down! Not saying that caring about the environment is bad. But these witchy cows always whine about the trees, while they don't give a fuck about people and greenwash all the shit they try to peddle
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There is some overlap, picrel. If you have autism an added criteria for a schizo diagnosis is obvious hallucinations and delusions. I think she really does have autism though, judging from her video's about it
I dunno. This is her original video about her hospitalization and she doesn't mention anything related to the spirits there at all and says that she intentionally mentioned a homicide to the doctor so she could get a placement in the mental hospital. A very different story.
Of course, I don't know where the truth lies, but it seems a bit odd that she keeps changing the story like that.
From the Youtube comments, it seemed like her followers are mostly suggesting therapy and want her to get help. They seem worried about her.
It's her who chose to dramatize her own story like this for some reason.
In the original video, she even mentions the burning and that it was a symptom of anxiety.
In her recent video, she dramatizes this as the vampires burning her internally, etc.
nah that's what i meant. i mentioned the genetic thing because i read some study about prenatal exposure and mental illnesses a while ago but I can't find anything relative atm to them being related so disregard that.
It's probably just psychosis (if anything) and i was just knee-jerk reacting the more I think about it because her autism symptoms have been around since childhood anyways.
That term don't mean what you think it means, boo-boo. Asking for sources isn't the same as going off on a stupid urge to avenge some weirdo on the internet. Though I get the feels that 2-5 these threads later, you're going to refer back to this comment, and insist that someone said Red sang at Carnegie Hall, cuz I guess you're just bored and need to rile people up.
It's clear that you're just trying to create drama by making things up. You're not only making up shit about cows you're hoping to covertly tip, but also about any anon that asks for sources to the claims being made about a cow. Where did any anon on here do any of the alleged REEEEEEE about Red's talents? It 100% never happened. Red talks himself up more than enough, and does piss all to show for it; everyone knows that and even the weirdos who like him almost never mention his music on here. So you're making things up about both the cows AND the board anons, cos I guess it's a slow news day, so might as well go and do some tipping but try to look like you aren't. That deffo looks like the reason you respond to a question about ppl saying Red's a sperg, like Dorian is, with an accusation of "White Knighting". Ppl ask if the things anons say on here about everyone else has any proof all the time. I'm just saying. (shrug)
would he count as being obsessed? His Rozz Williams video is almost two years old, and sure he's got a few related tattoos and "1334" in his screennames, but on his radio show he barely plays any Christian Death. Not even as often as once per show.
Compared to Casey or Crazy Michelle, Ruadhán's kind of normal, on that. I knew Michelle when she was in Chicago, and that woman was in MY LIFE WITH MORRISSEY territory of being obsessed with a gay man's music (check out that movie, btw). It's not like Red has to bring up Rozz Williams in every second or third video, or —like The Nut-Casey— doesn't want anyone else to be a fan of Williams' work.
YMMV, but that doesn't seem like an obsession. Maybe when he was young, but not since he's been on YouTube. Just seems like a fairly normal fan, I guess. During his last few radio streams he gets giddy over Wall of Voodoo and The Triffids.
To avoid a separate comment, Casey is definitely autistic: Can't read other people and basic body language for shit. ChrisChan levels of suggestible, if you humor his delusions. Constantly rocking in place when he sits down, and sometimes that hand-flappy stimming they'll sometimes do, but Christ, the constant & unconscious rocking!
Few people can stand to be around him for just the rocking.
Don't know if the Nut-Casey is still in jail for violation of his probation, though. Still can't figure out how he has anyone who actually wants to talk to him, unless he's something like the ChrisChan situation, where the only ppl who put up with him are white knights and trolls.
I’ll be real, having been around the guy, I always got the vibe he modelled his affectations, exaggerated his flamboyancy to mimic Rozz - I could be off base, but that’s really what it seems to be. His flamboyancy doesn’t seem genuine to me
RE tattoos - three tats, with a forth planned, all focusing on one man that he didn’t even know, does scream excessive to me