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>hey I passed my drivinng test
>but instead of celebrating let me start complaining again!
If you don't like your bike lessons why did you sign up babe just quit. She'll complain about something but also keep doing it. Oh I can't make videos today because of the salt level of the water in Croatia. Just quit YouTube then if you complain so much about not being able to it. Whining is just her personality now I guess?
I think it's normal to say y'all on the internet without being american, that being said if she said it outloud in her irish accent it would sound weird and forced as hell>>1291971>Whining is just her personality now I guess
was it not always?
At least she's being somewhat productive instead of it's too windy to work
as her usual.
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One step closer to true tradwifedom. Spawning will be next.
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So the Toxic Twosome got a new house and are already filling it with Halloween crap
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…. And she's already complaining about the bedrooms being too small
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Wonder how long she'll claim to not be able to film because of moving into the new house.
'A lot going on in the real world'.
Does Kaya not realise that most people have to function in the real world and hold down jobs too?
Girl is going to have a massive reality check in a few years when her channel is dead and she has to earn her money like the rest of us.
My bet is she's gonna be 35 or so when reality finally hits her and she goes back to college or some kind of job training. She's gonna wish she had started doing that years ago (now). Right now she's still deluded into thinking she can do YT full time.
But then again they have so many simps that they were able to get a new house so maybe they're set for life.
I'm thinking the simps she has now have been there for a long time and will eventually grow out of her.She's not doing anything to gain new fans so eventually she will be irrelevant.
Jake on the other hand may remain popular for longer but they will eventually split up.
She's gonna end up middle aged and long term sick on benefits blaming everyone and everything else but herself for her downfall.
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Get U a man who has a copy of the turner diaries?
I think I'll pass.
I love how he brought a quaint li'l basket because it would look "rural" for pictures, even if it is not actually convenient for bringing apples.
Rugged survivalist indeed.
It’s so fucking pretentious to me that it all for a photoshoot?? I mean dress like you want sure but has he ever showed interest in farming etc? I bet he goes home to play on his switch and edit on his macbook kek
Also Felvae is getting bigger and bigger
I'm starting to think she actually likes her buckteeth showing. She went to the lenghts of editing them whiter in this. Apart from you know, never closing her mouth for pics.>>1295761
If he wants to raise a family on his produce he'd should start trying to grow weed, because these 12 unripe apples are not gonna cut it
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He's dressing like this because he's been ass-kissing Lucy (wyrdisle) and Craig Fraser again - the fashy trad couple who used to run training camps for national action. They now run "cutesy" trad events where everyone has to dress like mentally deficient hobbits and talk about how pure and aryan they are.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-nazi-jihadis-mirror-investigation-4847059
Lauren and Adam attended one of their previous trad events in lockdown.
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So they have two cars, two motorbikes, a scooter, and rent to pay on their studio spaces. But they can't afford bigger housing? Are they just going into debt for this shit? I know the housing market is insane right now. But still…
I have a 2015 Jeep Renegade and it was about $15k USD, not sure how much that is in Irish currency. My guess is they got a loan for it. Like the other anons I seriously question how far Jake's simpbuxx are going to go. Imagine the payments for two cars, two motor bikes plus the insurance/gas/maintenance for both of those? There are creators with bigger audiences than Jake who still work irl jobs because they don't get enough from patreon/sponsorships etc to live off of.
Something isn't adding up.
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Anon you familiar with graal yoga? Fairly sure it's the same people in your pic. The goth/alt to fash pipeline is real. These people seem creepy as fuck. The folk horror, the redone sexual revolution, etc is attracting alt girls like flies to shit.
I just can't understand how easily everything comes for her! I'm 32 and I never had a car, I couldn't even pay for lessons! How come she got lessons, she passed AND got a jeep in like 1 month? Wtf?>>1298584>>1298756
Kaya's parents must be rich and support them, it makes NO sense otherwise. Neither Jake's music career or the duo joint simp coins could be enough to pay for this.>>1299002
Yes, they used to live off a combo of some of Kayas parents help and the selling of foot fetish services. Not only pics but guys would go to their house to sniff and lick her feet, they'd even clean the house…
Maybe she's doing something she's not proud of to get the money. You know what I mean? Working in daddy's business would be my guess. Now we have to follow this lead… maybe she HAS a job. A secretary job would be perfectly doable for her, would justify why she isn't on YouTube but still has money>>1299031
523 followers is not attracting people like flies… but like, explain wtf this is about?
>>1299075>maybe she HAS a job. A secretary job would be perfectly doable for her, would justify why she isn't on YouTube but still has money
Knowing Kaya I VERY much doubt this. She's had jobs before in her early YouTube days and was pretty open about it, she worked at a call center and later she worked for PayPal. She would bitch non stop about how much she fucking hated her PayPal job and how terrible it was and finally quit even though it was good money. She never said why it was so terrible though. Trust me if she had a job she would be complaining 24/7 about it on social media. I also don't think she'd be working for her dad since he lives in Spain. Selling feet pics though? It's definitely possible.>>1299031
This is creepy as fuck but it doesn't look goth at all to me tbh.
Yeah that is Craig Fraser who I mentioned. Him and his wife Lucy (Wyrdisle) wrote The Centurian Method, a book encouraging the far right to "turn the sedentary western human into a weapon of pure ferocity and power" - basically militarising the alt right. You can see the focus still hasn't changed, they just renamed it after they got outed as fash. >>299075
Instagram keeps removing his accounts, this one is a couple of weeks old so not many followers. He's friendly with some well known goth/pagan/folk horror people though.
I really wonder how these kind of people behaves irl. I have interacted online with one couple with the same vibe, they weren't creepy or unpleasant, but they seemed like plain middle class youth looking for an outlet in their plain lives.
The woman was making photoshots posing as kali naked, with bodypaint and swords in her hands, but in her stories she posed with her bubbletea, with a face that looked like your typical 20 something librarian : a bit chubby, with glasses and a ponytail.
I'm not linking their pages because they didn't behaved like cows, I just wanted to elaborate on the subject : bored middle class youth getting interested in esoterism and wanting to feel rebellious. I strongly prefer them to tradthots and wignats, they're mostly harmless weird people.
Most crunchy folkhorror pagan-y types are perfectly pleasant nerds. But there is a group of people who subscribe to antivax and racist ideas, especially those that adhere to the principles of Rudolph Steiner or madam Blavatski. But a lot of them just want to fuck around with maypoles and brew mead and shit.
But people like Frasier and his cohorts are so much worse IRL. This is the face they present to appear non-threatening and not dangerous. If this is what they consider a disguise, imagine what the real people are like.
Saged for blogposting. But I work with pre-christian Scandinavian history for a living, and have met far too many of these people. They will strike up a perfectly pleasant conversations, and start dropping in dogwhistles. If you have the nerve to contradict their "historical interpretations" they suddenly become quite stern, and calmly threaten to have you raped and killed. Don't let the goofy bullshit fool you, it's part of their approach.
Yeah and she only worked at Lush for one day before she got fired for not coming into work because it made her foot hurt.>>1299267
In that case maybe they're just maxing out credit cards.
I fully don't understand why they need an expensive car EACH when literally neither of them have to commute to any kind of job? How are they affording this? Not to mention the scooters/ bikes and studios.
Seriously if they really have so much money why not just fucking be smart and buy a house?!
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Adam looks like a bird shat on his face.
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Bitch, you have a studio that isn't "done" apparently.
Oh right, I forgot she used to work for PayPal but I'm wondering what was so terrible about it? I would think that it would be a little better than the Call Center. But right, she does tend to complain about her jobs like when she was working at I think Sephora and complained about how much her feet hurt after one shift. I don't think she lasted long there neither.
I'm more than sure that she probably is selling feet pics though. It's very low effort which is perfect for her because of how much of a lazy glutton she is.
I mean tbf I would still much rather hear Dorian's perspective than someone like Blaire White who has no idea what the fuck they're talking about and is just doing it for clicks. Still not gonna watch Dorian's video though.>>1302055
It was Lush not Sephora (not that it makes a difference). And you're right, she only lasted one day iirc.
Yeah he used to appear in her older videos but I think in one of her Q&A videos she mentioned that he didn't like being on the camera all that much so he probably was trying to get past that for her but ultimately couldn't. And besides, he was usually busy with school if I'm not mistaken.>>1302254>It was Lush not Sephora (not that it makes a difference). And you're right, she only lasted one day iirc.
Oh my bad.
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This is her car , not sure how new it is
It's not like they don't commute, they literally never go anywhere, not even for pleasure, nothing.
Why have 4 means of transportation when you go nowhere?
I don't think you're nitpicking at all anon, you're talking common sense. The toxic
twosome are just fucking retarded with money buying all these unnecessary things and aren't actually thinking about what they're spending money on. And I cannot wait until the day their fans wake the fuck up and see that they're throwing away money on two morons who are lazy fat fucks (okay well 1/2 is a lazy ass) and the money train starts flowing and they're stuck with all this expensive shit that they can't pay off because their fans finally opened their eyes to the truth about them.
*Money train STOPS flowing
My bad kek
Kaya: I looooove nature!
Also Kaya: check out our second SUV!
I'm pretty sure Kaya is the one who's going to become irrelevant before Jake because she does fuck all these days except complain and spend on frivolous shit. Jake may have a longer lifespan because of the TikTok but you're right, that's going to get old soon and his vlogs don't rake in views so he'll be screwed too.>>1303519
Yeah same. I'm sure they will support his ass a little longer but I don't think there are many of them compared to the emo tweens so they really won't be making as much as they do right now when this day comes.
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Never change Kaya.
Actually, please change. You're infuriating.
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"there's literally no cool people in Belfast and no one to hang out with"
does anyone remember the shebeast that is Raven Sparks? Kaya really reminds me of her in some ways, especially how she has to find the negatives in EVERY LITTLE THING and can't be positive just once. Just complain complain complain all the damn time>>1304469
kek is she still using that seriously old photo of herself as her main pic? kaya, you dont look like that anymore. get over it
Exactly. Never forget the cats or the budgies.
Honestly, I could puke. I can’t have kids and I knew that early. It changed my life in ways I’m not gonna go into here. And here’s this bish…(learn2sage)
That’s an insane thing for you to be jealous of. What does her starting a family, like most women do, have anything to do with your infertility?
I think having the baby will actually keep her in NZ for a while where it seems better for her. Also, are we sure that they aren’t married already?
Remember last time when they announced they were going to get married? Freyja made a huge deal out of it, it was even going to be a livestreamed event with tickets (!)… then she dumped him and ran to Europe. lol
I don't think she will talk about their status ever again.
I can buy it being something that she THOUGHT was the mature option, and she was just lucky that Mr Owl was keen to get back together when it blew up in her face, ie:
IBF: I really want to travel.
Owl: I never do.
IBF: I guess it makes more sense for us to split.
IBF: Well I guess I am free to go to Germany now. Oh here is that cute Matthias guy I may have flirted with one time.
Matthias: You seem to have a high profile and might be good for my cough
art career. Let's get married so you can stay in Germany and plug my merch forever!
IBF: Germany is harder than I thought it would be. Maybe a new town with a bigger place where I can totally hide from Matthias.moves
Nope. Oh Mr Owl I do miss you and feel that I made a mistake.
Mr Owl: BRB dumping younger lookalike. OK SINGLE NOW.
IBF: Fuck it, I'm going home.
Oh no wait I'm going to Scotland to create my dream land in a way that might entice Mr Owl to leave NZ.
Oh no wait Paisley is kind of meh. Oh no I got deported again. Oh no there is COVID.
Fuck it let's have that baby.
Anon, you nailed it.
I’m kinda baffled by the “she’s gonna be a great mom” comments here, given that this board has been watching and snarking about IBF’s train wreck of a life through various countries and relationships for years now.
Don't pretend you don't understand what she was trying to say.>>1305662>>1305719
I was surprised first when she said that having kids doesn't mean your life is over because I found that very mature, but then she talked about still going to festivals and stuff like that. There's no way you can bring a baby or a small kid to the kind of festivals she goes to. Music would be too loud and babies need a lot of rest, otherwise they would probably cry a lot. Imagine also a 2 year old kid seeing some goth or metahead with extreme make up and pircings, wouldn't the kid freak out? Doesn't sound to me like the best enviroment for your small kid to be. Kids get lost so easily and, while I don't have any prejudice towards people who dress ''scary'', it's obvious any festival attracts people with bad intentions, even if it's only for stealing wallets.
About all the goth-themed stuff she'll buy for her kid it's going to be hilarious. I seethis going two ways: her trying a lot to buy her child every damn thing she needs in its goth version (even if plastic bottles have BPA) or surrendering to buy affordable stuff because of prices and realising now the other effort is ridiculous.
I hope the kid doesn't intoxicate herself with all that hairspray or freaks out when her mother makes up her eyes like they are bleeding. Haven't seen how her place in NZ is but I remeber how her last apartment in Germany HAD to be painted all in black and not only it looked like shit aesthetically and because of the dust being more visual in dark surfaces, but it would also have smelled like paint for weeks and that's toxic
That was beautiful anon. Beautiful and accurate lol.
I dunno about this. I agree with others that I don't think she'll be a shit mother, she may actually be a decent one but I also agree that she's gonna totally use that baby as a goff accessory while it's still young and not aware of what's going around it
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The kid won't be used to that the first time she sees some weird ass goth make up because their parents don't have very spooky styles (apart from the bloody eyes of Freyja). Also, they won't go around the house on their exaggerated looks 24/7 (Mr.Owl's is quite modest) they will probably wear their everyday look that is much more softer and simple. And who knows, maybe Mr. Owl or Freyja loosen up a bit with their white talk foundation and eyeliner because of time and money (probably not). This normal situation can't be compared to the few days the kid will be for the first time in a festival and see some pic related for the first time. Maybe she'll be used to it around 6 years old but I doubt she doesn't freak out somehow when it gets late and dark. Talk all we want about the kid being used to dress goth but children are easily frightened.
Sage because ranting about nothing.
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Most alternative festivals like M'era Luna don't allow kids below age twelve. And the ones that do serve as perfect evidence that kids give no fucks, adults do. An afternoon at the renfair will teach you that.
if a kid is terrified of someones make-up or get-up they should probably just get over it
sooner the better
besides its not like theres lone 8 year olds roaming around at such things.
if theyre young and there, theyre likely with a parent or guardian who can console them if they freak out
and that parent or guardian is probably pretty weird looking too, or they wouldnt be there
its not where id bring a young child, as that just seems like a huge hassle
but idk it just seems like pearl-clutching over a non-existent issue
most kids of metalheads/punkrockers ive come across are actually substantially more well-adjusted than the ones with helicopter parents, or the ones that were raised by an ipad
Exactly. These are adult spaces. I've been to a lot of the same festivals as Freya, and there are teenagers there, but no small children.
Also, I'm not a big fan of Freya. But I'd still assume that if her child suffered an anxiety attack she would remove them from the situation. I love how worked up pearl clutching Anon gets over a completely hypothetical situation.
I think a greater concern at goth festivals (I haven't been to one, just normie ones) is there's usually a fetish tent or fashion show based on what I've seen online from vloggers, even normie festivals often have some vagina or sexual themes somewhere.
Aside, kids generally react to people who act aggressively, goths and alternative people not acting aggressively isn't gonna scare them regardless of how they are dressed.
>>1305984>don't pretend you don't understand what I was trying to say
Nta but what exactly were you trying to say? It sounds like you're just salty she got pregnant and you couldn't. Even though she had infertility issues so she's lucky to be prengant. I'm salty that the toxic
twosome can afford a house and 2 cars without actually working. What of it.
>>1306434>if a kid is terrified of someones make-up or get-up they should probably just get over it
sooner the better
I see you agree with me here but you seem to forget kids need help with that too, overcoming fears as a kid needs the help of adults. >but idk it just seems like pearl-clutching over a non-existent issue
The nonexisting issue being that some anon said that ''children give no fucks about weird stuff' here >>1306314
and ''Kids only get scared of things they don't understand'' here >>1306264
. It's like some people here can't connect the dots and see that small children that can't fully understand some things will get scared of them instead of not caring. At this point I'm responding to people that have no idea about a child's rationality.>>1306443
Thanks <3>>1306504>Aside, kids generally react to people who act aggressively, goths and alternative people not acting aggressively isn't gonna scare them regardless of how they are dressed.
Do you really think some children fear monsters (for example) because they think monsters might be aggressive to them instead of how they look? Think about children being scared of clowns, sometimes a fear it's all about the appeareance.
Responding to the last paragraph, I mean it's quite clear kids are afraid of monsters attacking
them and not just looking weird, half of Disney characters look weird as hell but kids like them because they're friendly and harmless. And clowns generally act strange as part of the look, it's behavior that is frightening not appearances. Kids generally love weird, colorful, outlandish, cartoonish appearances (see: every kids character ever) so I think the uwu goths scary
line of thought is overstated. Especially when in this hypothetical situation, mom and dad literally also have the same style of fashion.
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I understand what you say but I still believe appeareance plays a much bigger role than anything else. And of course I don't believe trad goth style, cybergoths, metalheads or punks are perse scary, but there are some of them with very extreme looks and I'd say no matter how nice and friendly they truly are, any small kid would probably have fear as their first impression. Like I said before, Freyja and Mr.Owl don't dress like pic related. The idea of parents being present being some sort of help is true to a certain degree but again it's very common watching a scary/sci-fi film with your parents as a kid and still being frightened at night during weeks. Usually a small kid's fear is irrational until they are old and mature enough to rationalize it. Cartoons these days, specially the very popular socal animation,are colourful and seem ''friendly'' because they look really dumb, not weird. Pic related-like individuals don't look like children cartoons at all. And I don't find any problem with them looking the way they want, but since goth has many ties with death, nihilism, the occult, macabre stuff and similar topics it seems naive to pretend that those goths whose looks are very inspired on corpses,BDSM and paranormal stuff won't make a huge first impression on small kids. Just like that scary-looking Drag Queen with horns reading in a public library.
I'm not telling anyone what to do with their children so please refrain from replying to my post like I'm doing that.
Sage because it's clear that my posts hypothesizing about IBF are way above and this is an approach to an abstract topic.
Didn't say the opposite. >>1306935
You have no reading comprehension at all, sweetie, maybe you're the one who's 12 and stupid.
Where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns
Just when I'd stopped whiteknighting,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was attention,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair
Just adopt then?>>1305845
Bingo. The baby serves a double purpose of securing him with her and letting them leech off the government.
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Proof Rudehun lurks here
Yeah. And whenever Rudehog is mentioned some WK shows up to explain how he's actually really brilliant and musically gifted and NOT jealous of Dorian! You're just jealous of him shuttup!
Oh, and how the sexual assault allegations against him have to be false because the wife of the guy he assaulted went over to his house once, so there! It's pretty obvious he visits the boards
Read the last board. But basically someone came on here claiming to know him in real life, said he was a freeloader and his apartment smelled like catshit, and that he had a history of groping guys, including her husband. Don't know how true any of that is, except the freeloading, because he ebegs constantly. But it seemed to really get under his skin. He's been kicked out of a bunch of different goth communities for being a toxic
piece of shit. He also has a long running fued with Dorian, because they're both autistic trans people who monologue about bullshit for hours and constantly start drama. But Dorian is more popular.>>1307543
Don't know about that. The first thing I heard was their blackfriday video.
Ruadhan calling us
weirdos? Hello pot meet kettle.
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Saged for nitpick. But for some reason Lauren's breast reduction is making her look chunkier. Usually that's not the case.
Except none of those are white supremacists, that we know of. Red is an easy colour to dye, and it looks eyecatching without being as much as a commitment as fashion colors.>>1308340
Not always. Sometimes big boobs make people look overstuffed and chunkier.
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>>1308376>Except none of those are white supremacists,
Well, I didn't say anything about that, I was just pointing out how popular this dye hair colour is.>Red is an easy colour to dye
Is it? I thought the exact same opposite and to be honest I think it can look very ugly and fake easily (Jade, Darling Desi). Anyways, I was just rambling about hair colour.
I like Darling Desi, she's sweet and wholesome. But she looks like Pippi Longstocking with this getup (but maybe that's her goal). She looked better blonde imo.
Red is easy if you're dying it over natural hair, if you're trying to get a specific shade of red by bleaching then dying it it can be difficult, especially if you want it to look natural.
Exactly. Red can be dyed over light and medium shades, so it doesn't require bleaching. Also, some of the crunchier types use henna, so their shade range is kind of limited.>>1308452>
Well, I didn't say anything about that, I was just pointing out how popular this dye hair colour is.
No worries Anon. You just said you didn't know who Lauren was, and I was saying she's a white supremacist cow. Sorry if that came across weird.
My bad, I thought ''redhead'' implied a natural colour like natural gingers have (or natural auburn). A reddish hair colour doesn't count as a redhead (reason I used '') person to me, that's why I think that achieving a natural look with this hair colour is very difficult. All the ytbers I listed have different oranges/reds and most of their hair colour doesn't look authentic or doesn't suit their skintone, despite how easy it is to achieve any reddish tone through dye or henna.
I don't know who Lauren is so I didn't know she was a white supremacist but that pose in her picture is cringe.
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Well speak of the racist devil.
Really enhancing the creepy folk horror vibes
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how much clothing does this douche have, he wears the same shit in vids & stopped doing his stupid overly edited angled pix to be a showoff. aside from citing that killstar wouldn't pay him & having image issues or ~being so busy~ to do it. this is going to be like the merch & signed pix, something he does for a bit before he drops it. the few times he did a few look at what i'm wearing things with cringey posing. but yes, he can go onbe tone deaf & flaunt his e-fashion buys for all his snaccs.
i like how he blurred the speedometer when riding the motorcycles cos he was probably speeding.
what the fuck are they doing with those rented spaces? they both showed their 'decorating' and what, keep paying rent to not use them. fake at least might still do band practice in his, while kaya is complaining about having to bring shit down from the attic to bring it to the new house, like that's literally what moving is, then will faff around for bit before grabbing at all of the excuses as to why she can't film.
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She did not lose weight.
I know people here like to call anyone a size 10 a whale but honestly, she looks like a landwhale because she wants to. With the right clothing, that fits better, accessories like a waist cincher or belt, there are many girls (goth or not) that manage to look super hot at this weight. She could look thick but she insists on dressing like she's still stick-thin with all that hanging shapeless fabric. Her hair and makeup shapes are all wrong so it makes her head look extremely round, the double chin is then the focus of everything. If anyone NEEDS a style consultant it's Kaya. She doesn't need to stop being goth at all, just learn how not to do everything in her power to look her worse.
And also, she acts like she's just waiting until she is thin again to stop hiding behind the shapeless tents, drab hair… Honey, live in the moment, stop trying to recreate your teens.
It's like she doesn't realize sge can buy black clothes by regular
brands, in a nice fit and fabric. It's like she's a hostage of these cheapy alternative brands. She looks like a "novelty" in the form of a person. Not that I'm a "normie", maybe I'm even more "extreme looking" than her for a normal person but for fucks sake, I HATE alternative tackiness. There's some itens that look so halloweeny it hurts. Kaya is one of those people (like emily boo) that only picks those, the
corniest everything. Ew
This is a nic3 look for her she should do more like this rather then the unflattering neon pink black looks or the awful anime contact lenses and bag that’s twice size of her full of key ring charms it just looks tacky and bad but this is more elegantly done
exactly. dre ronayne is at least as heavy but she knows how to dress for her body type.>>1309760
we know, that has been discussed in this thread already. see:>>1291971>>1298584
Oh, she's 100% loving this latest ED ride of hers,. The way she talks about her body on instagram is a dead giveaway she's still ana. I mean, look at this fucking thumbnail, she has the classic little arm sticking out just to show how thin it is.
I guess that in the days we live in, with all the pressure to be woke, dorian likes to be seen as "someone who openly discusses her problems, for awareness and visibility to the cause
" instead of someone who glorifies wrong shit.
She always does this:
-Says someyhing misogynistic: "it's just boys beig boys because besides presenting female at all times and liking dicks I'm actually a transgender male"
-Obssesses over drugs and alcohol, is a junkie: "I only tell stories of the old days". Confesses she still uses
-only talks about losing weight but totally not in an ED way. Loses weight: only talks about how EDs are bad, and how she's over the moon with her body, posting thinspo.
This is obviously just a way for her to keep interacting with the ED, the ana world etc while still posing as someone who is ackshually educating you on the subject so you better learn and not ever criticize her. Sure, Jen
>>1309751>She doesn't need to stop being goth at all
She never was one at all but I agree with your assessment. Her issue has always been that she doesn't know how yo dress for her body type and she seriously needs to get some style help. But on the other hand, she gets her ass kisses from her fans so much that she more than likely doesn't see anything wrong with her ill-fitting clothing.
And honestly I feel that the reason that her and really just any of these fake Goth YouTubers hold onto these tacky brands like a life preserver is because they desperately want ot fit a style that they just aren't. It's something I've noticed with a lot of people who call themselves Goth but don't listen to Goth music and are just poseurs but these people think that so long as they deck themselves in any of these cheap, alternative clothes for uwu edginess, it will give them Goff cred.
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Huh. So I guess that's a thing.
Marissa Cloutier aka pokeprincess aka digitalprxncess is (or at least was) in the hardcore scene. So idk if she counts as alt. But she was arrested for child endangerment. I should probably take it to the tiktok or camwhore thread. >>1305977
Ntayrt, but I'm sure she has a low sex drive. I just think she likes the attention of showing off her cleavage. Men with a fetish for goth women will drool over a pig in eyeliner and fishnets (or men in general) though. Look at Gravy. Not saying she's ugly. She's just a painfully average, apple-shaped woman without her makeup and clothes.>>1306789
Are you retarded? >>1309674
Exactly. Kaya would look fine if she dressed and did her makeup more flattering for her weight. She just is stuck on the mindset that she'll be thin again without putting in any work. If only her fans suggested clothing. Like, "I love this dress and i think it would look great on you" instead of coddling her and telling her she looks great.
>>1310448>"I love this dress and i think it would look great on you" instead of coddling her and telling her she looks great.
I think part of the problem is that as so many have stated in previous threads, Kaya's fanbase are mostly tweens. Kids that are still in high school with the rare young adult and maybe a handful of people her age older but predominantly it's tweens. And edgy tweens are more than likely to like anything that looks edgy and gawf that they don't really take into account shape and fit.
If Kaya had an older fanbase, I feel she more than likely would've gotten constructive helpful critique on how to develop a style that flatters her body because she's already made it pretty clear that she doesn't have the drive to actually lose weight so the best thing she can do now is just learn to dress for her current body now.
Don't try to exaggerate, I didn't say that and I posted a pic to illustrate my post. At least you could have taken a minute to try and read my post before attempting a reply.>>1310739
Hewwo, thanks again.
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is that a fucking poke bowl? for BREAKFAST?
Just the fruit and coffee is breakfast, what is in the picture is a heavy lunch.
She seems to think that as long as she has a meal that involves a few healthy ingredients, it doesn't matter how big her portions are. And meals like this wouldn't even be so bad if she spent the rest of the day doing very intense activities which would require a heavier breakfast. But it's not like Kaya is tilling a field by hand or working construction or even on her feet all day. She's laying about fucking around with her phone and complaining. She's supposed to have a personal trainer now. But I think this will go the way of all her other health kicks.
Also nitpick, but if she and stumpy actually prepared their own meals they would have more control over their diet and save a ton of money.
for obssessive nitpicking about the toxic
duo, go to their own board. Discussing the size of her rabbit food portions it's tiring here, the anachans who care, please take it there. She's not gaining weight because of these, it's the sweets she eats daily, and you know it.>>1310188
I made that post and I agree with you 100%, it was just to avoid getting into this discussion again. So, to correct: she doesn't need to stop dressing "darkly inclined" Or "she doesn't need to stop wearing black and heavy makeup", just lay off the fashion sense of a 12 year old in hot topic for the first time. It's not that a 30 year old has to stop being alternative, just stop being fucking tacky and ill fitted when you're not even PAYING for the items… blows my mind. She would even feel less like a fat shapeless blob if she did. If I was her, I'd gave up on trying to be so thin that every clothing will fit and I'd invest my time and effort on changing my wardrobe entirely. She has so many clothes that maybe she even has some things that fit better. Just try everything on and cast out the ones that make you feel like a whale, if it's every item you own, get new ones. Honestly, her body isn't horrible, just another regular chubby broad. She herself creates an impossible standard for herself, using so many old pics where she's thin, of course people will compare.
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Adam getting his antivaxx on.
I got bored…and watched a part of Jake's latest vlog. 5 days late here, but it really blows my mind about how far they are stretching themselves. YouTube and streaming paying out that well?? Like someone above counted 6 studios. I have seen 3 that are rented spaces so far. Including one he is renting using part of it just for his clothes! He's far far away from being any fashionista. Maybe, if you got that much shit…mmm. So they have these rented spaces, just moved, new furniture on the way, new vehicles like cars, scooters, bikes. And driving lessons, piano lessons, and a personal trainer too for Kaya.
My favorite part was him riding his motorcycle, telling the story about his issues with a previous lemon Honda he bought. He was like - I had to get my lawyer involved and as a youtuber I have a really good lawyer. And Honda gave in because they don't want to deal with "a youtuber with close to half a million followers". Oh the ego.(sage your blog)
Jake probably got her the car so he can continue to fuck other girls in his so she's none the wiser. >>1309102
You can see this has been photoshopped because of the background lol
the leading theory was that they were being supported by their parents but it has been established that Jake has nothing to do with his family, while Kaya's parent's are not rich.
We know they aren't a huge success, not enough to fund this unnecessary lifestyle.
Does anybody else thinks it's starting to get strange? Like, not just poor money management but supicious? tinfoil here but at this point I'm fairly certain they have a side hustle we don't know of. They clearly haven't regular jobs. I'd bet on secret onlyfans or similar accounts, something hard to find out, like only feet pics. I thought about dealing, but they barely even leave the house and talk to anyone, so it can't be it. They have no way to get or sell drugs… can yyou imagine Jake in the corner trying to sell drugs with the other "chavs"? kek
Yeah it is very strange.
Realistically, are their channels making enough to pay for 4 studio spaces, 2 motorbikes and 2 SUVs?
I know Jake gets lots of donations on his stream though, but surely not that much?
Digging done becouse no life.
Uased social blade for stats.
est. Earnings from yt last 30 days: 20-316$
Patreon is like 1$/vid, and she has 161 people on there. No uploads this month, so 0$.
No vid, so no sponsorship money for this month.
Nothing on Insta looks like a payed post for the last month.
Jake: Earnings from yt last 30 days 334-5.2k$
Patreon 3 tears, 1/5/10$, got 401 of them. So lowest earning would be 401$, but we know his fans throw money at him, so if we count half of them for 5%, we get 1200$ from them. Paytreon keeps 20% i think, so 950$ to the bank.
I did not have the energy to look through his vida looking for sponsors, but I would say skil share, nordic vpn or some other brand would have him sponsors for like 1 vid a month? A low point to sell for would be 20$/1000 wieves, and average for him seams to be 30-80k, counting in 30k that would be 600$. If we think of a better earning, like 50$ for 50k, we look at 2500$ instead.
He barley uases instagram so no income there.
We have a minimum earning of 1300$, but if we look at a bit of a higher earning, and his vid rev was on the higher side, we would look at 8k$ a month.
I'm to stupid to figure out the high/low rate for ni so I split it down the middle and did 30%, leaving him with 900$-5.6k$ a month.
What we doubt count here is the fact that fans throw money at him duaring live streams. One a month and he has 500-2k$ extra.
If we are on the higher end of the scale for Jake, I dont think he would have any problem on supporting them both with a normal life style. Hoever. What they are doing now does not look all that normal, unless he has saved a bunch of money and gone on a spree now. Looking at the bike he got now, new that would be like 20k£, and he had a little bit of money from some old bike to out in to it. Saving half his earning (counted on high end) would get him that bike in 6 months, meaning that his life style is kind of plosebal.
But then again I have no clue what they would pay for housing and the studios. That honestly just looks like a really fast way to spend all earnings and getting close to nothing back.
Anyone got any reasonable guesses on on there bills, if we now have a guestemate on there income?
Anons are forgetting the insane simps this annoying little man somehow has who donate in the thousands to him regularly. I think that's the secret with all suspiciously wealthy e-celebs. I know peachmilky used to (maybe still does) have one weird simp who would send her thousands as well as expensive cameras and stuff. All it takes is a couple of crazies who think they're in love with the e-celeb and have too much spare money. Hard to believe since he's insufferable but it's a fixation for the fans.
An anon posted screenshots of these crazy donations in this thread before so that's verified.
Nahh she's just a spooky skeleton enjoying her near death experience 'n victim
I agree anon, they clearly have to be doing something else that is funding their indulgent lifestyle. Kaya selling feet pics is plausible because I mean, it's only photos of your feet and I feel like most of her potential clients wouldn't even know she had a YouTube channel so there's no way she would be outed. Selling dirty underwear is another plausible one. Think about it. They hardly leave their house so they both wouldn't have to worry about smelling like body odor out in public and I doubt the two have sex anymore so there's nothing really stopping them and we know dismissive Jake can be towards Kaya.
We can't really suggest cam modeling because if they did do this, they would've been outed by now unless Kaya drastically changes her appearance to where she's almost non-recognizable. >>1313391
This too. It's not so much Kaya but Jake who is rolling in the simp money. Kaya really doesn't make that much money on Patreon/YouTube alone compared to Jake, it probably was like that back when she was more active and Jake was still starting out but the roles have now swapped.
I'm also bewildered why these people cling to Jake. Out of all the alternative guys to do that, why him? >>1313401
I just take pleasure nkowing that he'll never be like Kyo ever. Kyo is talented, Jake is a talentless hack who's only relevant because of mostly teenage girls whom I'm sure make up most of his viewers who watch those TikTok react videos. I don't get how that kinda content is seen as enjoyable.
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is there anyone who doesn't
have adhd at this point? just wait for her to start blaming literally everything on it.
For real. Honestly people are just autistic and in love with him. They feel as though they have a genuine connection with somebody they’ve totally idolized. They’re under the false impression that he’s this adorable wholesome guy because they probably never saw shit from the old day when his whole internet presence was a flop (like that time that he punched a door in his shitty little call centre job in front of some middle manager and spoke about it after like he was this Joker maverick shoving it to big capitalism).
Gives the energy of that “I saved my minimum wage for months to buy Good American jeans” tweet.
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Mara being an asexual creative spirit. Hanging out with Lauren has been so good for her.
Being a whore is hard, often dangerous work. What mara is doing is selling low effort lewds under the guise of "art" so that she doesn't have to admit what she's doing.
I mean, the naked body as the subject of art and all that. But I doubt that's why anyone is buying these.
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Just a couple of extremely hetero guys hanging out shirtless together in a totally masculine way. As you do…
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Did a little bit of lurking on old IBF instagram posts and someone dropped his handle in the comments and this is what happened when I clicked it. I guess he deleted it?
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Nta but wonder if he lurks here, if I search the name it's definitely his but the page goes nowhere.
Probably? Or some fangirl who lurks/posts here snitched, saying some bitches online were stalking him and he panicked. kek
His page was just regular goth posting pics of himself and his art. Literally nothing milky.
I found him through his tagged photos
) on instagram. His username is schwarzkittel.germany
Adderall addiction saga when?>>1316013
Yeah, she probably died from her 'beetus. She's absolutely disgusting. >>1318270
Kek the Chicago scene hated her, the cali scene also hated her. Just curious, were you close to her because you felt bad for her? Are you aware of her trying to fuck literal minors?
Hm, yeah she seemed to do that with younger people. These Rozz fans are fucking insane. Her and Casey (is he still in jail?). What was she like in the 2000s? Same? I only was aware of her in the 2010s.
Also, not being a dick, just don't want you to get banned, but sage goes in the email field.
>>1318360>These Rozz fans are fucking insane.
A decent chunk of hardcore Rozz/CD fans are batshit, I swear every few months or so I stumble on one that has a ton of mental illnesses and is trying to skinwalk as Rozz really hard
Has to be the musician with the weirdest fan base in this scene
I like his work too, just, some of the more intense fans take his shit way too seriously, want to have this same dark, unhinged persona
Very forced, but still edgelordy and weird
I suppose I somewhat understand younger fans being drawn into this, the whole tragic, attractive, tortured genius thing
I can believe being him being a dick, I feel if he was predatory, that would be more well documented, especially considering today’s atmosphere of people being more willing to openly talk about this sort of thing
But who knows, the man was pretty fucked up in a lot of ways
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Lmfao these lyrics, man
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Oh man. This looks like a good cow. Too bad she's not more active.
Has she got a lolcow forurm? I would love to read up on her. Any websites anything that has this story about her.
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I don’t think you’ll ever find anything like that
From what I can tell, she wasn’t hugely active online, a lot of her antics seem focused in irl goth communities
I’d love to know more about the shit she got up to irl but I don’t think many people that associated with her would even know about a site like this
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>>1319374>>1319033> Chicago scene hated her> moved to cali> cali scene hated her> has picrel dress> has rozz's jewelry, lyric sheets, and apparently some of his ashes > no one knows where any of this went> briefly obsessed with 69 eyes before going back to her rozz obsession > had diabetes and forgot to do anything about it, leading to panic attacks> invited a 17yo to live with her sounds like our Gravey> had an alcholic roommate who hated her and moved out because she's psycho> neighbors hated her> Only Theater of Pain is nice to her out of pity> fucking dies > no one talks about anything except for her rozz Williams collection
I have stories, but don't really want people knowing who I am or the people I'm associated with. Just know she was crazy. I'm sure anyone who knows her can tell you the same.
If you speed on narrow country lanes, obviously you're going to crash, what a dumbass.
Also "GOTH CRASHES EXPENSIVE SPORTS BIKE" fucking cringe title.
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Saged because not exactly news. But "i only touch up my roots" is clearly bullshit. You fry your hair all the time.>>1319382
Too bad he's fine. Better ask his simps to buy him a new spare bike.
This is new bike that he crashed showing off .sure I think they won money on lottery as look how much new stuff they buying .miss toxic
not put video out in 3 months . something going on there.also hate way he use goth in everything to views.
Winning the lottery is quite rare but the smart ones don't tell anyone when they do win. I mean, it's small, but it is a possibility.
I was the anon who brought up the question of them having a side hustle, my humble opinion is that they are doing very niche fetish things. I am somewhat involved in the fetishy/perverted side of the world and I assure you that selling used underwear(or socks) is VERY easy, very doable anonymously. You can even sell them on regular marketplaces like ebay, you just describe the panties as "used, dm for more info" and the guy will ask you like how many days you wore them, how do you look like… sometimes they'll ask for pics but it's common to send pics wihout the face. If the pervert likes it, you got a customer!
There's also the selling of feet pics. If you got some perverts "foot type", alluring heels etc you don't even have to show anything but feet, shoes, etc. If she does the more racy ones she can pose her feet with Jake's dick or any non identifiable body part. You just have to find a niche and pay attention to things that give you away so you don't get recognized. I BET they're selling special orders for random white dudes who have no idea who they are.
It's either this or the lottery. There isn't any option left
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Still beating that dead horse. Erh, swan.
100% feel she’s just using this to make her dull life seem interesting - I doubt she truly cared about this swan in any significant way
Wow how quirky, making friends with wild birds, truly the goffick Snow White
the farmer didn't call police if it had been me would have got him done for speeding .he could have killed someone way he was driving .,20k bike anyone see photos of him with ,400 pounds new joker helmet he is topples and again pants down to see his private
Only matter time they be other crash
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This woman really doesn’t know how to use Google, does she? Every week with this.
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Oh you spoiled brat! Do you think this is cute?
Of course she doesn't play piano. She obviously lacks any interest in music when her favourites are the most popular "goth" songs and then cheesy pop from the 90s. She wouldn't be stimulated learning a new instrument because it would just be annoying noise to her. She lacks depth in everything she does. >>1326725
The people she's hanging out with are only there since her and Jake have their own transport now. They're being used like how they used others for their vehicles. Shallow friendships for shallow people.
45:00>the Lolita community is more toxic than ancient vampires
Mwahaha best part of the video
"I find feminists equally as entitled as goth posers, personally."
She's fully lost it, everything about her mannerisms in that video are just…so weird.
I hope she gets some kind of psych help because I do enjoy her videos much more than any other cow on here.
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Is it cowtipping to report her to the police for a welfare check? Genuinely worried about the delusions she's entertaining in that video, she could genuinely be at a risk to her mum or herself.
Don't. First of all, she is not describing a current situation. Welfare checks only work for acute emergencies. Second of all, police are not equiped or trained to be any good at this. Uk police have a history of responding to welfare check requests with physical force and restraints. This can be dangerous to everyone involved, and would probably discourage her from seeking help.
Unless someone is actually about to hurt themselves or others, calling the police is a bad idea, and tends to make the situation more dangerous. They are not mental healthcare professionals.
I thought her spending lockdown having sex with tulpas who were even so kind as to wear tulpa condoms was nutty enough. When it comes to kids killing parents there is a muuch higher rate of it happening with autist neets, though it's usually males.>>1329441
I feel like she'd only waste services. The last time she willingly went to hospital she fought to get the bed (whinged about it being so hard) and then walked like a day later because she could hear some other mentally ill person down the hall making noise. Her mom brought her home after all that fussing to get in. The mom needs to be the one making a call and either getting her sectioned or removed from the home. Doesn't appear like she'll ever do that.
Her mum could be in her mid 50s or 60s
You’re making it sound like she’s mid 80s
Her mom is not yet retired at any rate. But she's talked before about her family not being willing to discuss mental health, such as not awknowledging that she had an eating disorder until she started to suffer medical consequences, not awknowledging her alcoholism, even if we've all seen what a drunken mess she's been, and not being willing to admit she was molested by a male relative. I kind of think they're just trying to ignore it. Which is a terrible idea of course, because look at the state of her.
In her relapse video she talked about how her mum was praising her for losing weight, one of the things you really shouldn't say to a former anachan. I doubt if they know how to deal with her mental state.
UK mental health services are super underfunded and really strained so it can be super hard to actually get access to treatment in or out, there's unfortunately a lot of cases here where people who should be in inpatient care aren't and then they end up causing harm to themselves or others because there's just not the resources to provide the care these people need, lot of people slip through the cracks.
Pandemic has been making it even worse as the NHS has been postponing medical appointments in a whole range of fields due to the strain on the system
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I feel bad for her too. Blogpost but I knew Amy Burdett/Ariel/Arabella Starchild etc etc from the infamous x-factor audition IRL through mutuals and Dorian reminds me of her - constantly churning out bizarre delusional ramblings and bursting into song randomly. She had an online relationship with an army dude, he ghosted her when he realised she was crackers and she became obsessed with him and thought the army were bugging her house and stalking her - she ended up stabbing herself in the neck and no one found her body for days. Same sad loner existence slowly self destructing.
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Sage because it's not news to anyone, but Kaya cannot dress herself. She complains about chavs, but looks like a chav mom.
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Last week she had her nails done this week her guy friend and her went to get Halloween nail now she on her tick tox going on how bad nails are .dear god she looks so bad in dose pants .
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YouTube is ment to be her job but here she is after been out all day doing nothing just sitting around .I love two know how long this friendship will last before Jake stop it.
>>1331813>doesn't autism have a really strong link to schizophrenia too?
no, it doesn't. but I'm pretty sure some drugs can have lasting effects on your brain especially if you're predisposed to mental illness in the first place.>>1331676
isn't the guy she's been hanging out with an obviously gay guy, or am I thinking of someone else
I don’t get it why bitch online about it? she saw the person doing her nails 10 times why didn’t she say something thing after the first nail was done??????>>1332024
lmao you are right there is no difference between her painted nails and unpainted nails
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And here's Lauren appreciating her manly man™ once again. In this clip there's some initiation ritual going on and ofc the flag is present. Any new thoughts or just same olde?
I'm also an oldfag and I also thought it was highly dramatized, though she obviously did have a mental breakdown at some point. I also had a tinfoil that part of the reason she posted the video was to make the lolitas feel sorry for bullying her and make sure nobody ever bullies her again because she's so mentally fragile.
However, I am by no means a mental health expert, and after reading comments on here and youtube, I realized I'm better off not presuming anything because realistically I don't know shit about such things.
i misworded a little oopsie, what i meant to ask was isn't there a strong overlap/genetic link. i meant to imply maybe a possible misdiagnosis. there's the drug use/abuse variable for sure but i was also thinking about how women develop symptoms later in age than men typically do as well.>>1331961
probably but she seems so into it like she genuinely believes it? maybe she just really enjoys getting high off her own brain farts tho.
Yeah. They were there last year too. Lifting heavy shit, standing around in the mud, and wanking it to racial purity.
Craig frasier is a real violent headcase. Not an entrylevel white supremacist leader. They're in deep.
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Your friends go to events thrown by a guy who talks about how great ethnic cleansing is all the time, but it's not something you want to speak up about. But oh no, the forest rangers cut a tree down! Not saying that caring about the environment is bad. But these witchy cows always whine about the trees, while they don't give a fuck about people and greenwash all the shit they try to peddle
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There is some overlap, picrel. If you have autism an added criteria for a schizo diagnosis is obvious hallucinations and delusions. I think she really does have autism though, judging from her video's about it
I dunno. This is her original video about her hospitalization and she doesn't mention anything related to the spirits there at all and says that she intentionally mentioned a homicide to the doctor so she could get a placement in the mental hospital. A very different story.
Of course, I don't know where the truth lies, but it seems a bit odd that she keeps changing the story like that.
From the Youtube comments, it seemed like her followers are mostly suggesting therapy and want her to get help. They seem worried about her.
It's her who chose to dramatize her own story like this for some reason.
In the original video, she even mentions the burning and that it was a symptom of anxiety.
In her recent video, she dramatizes this as the vampires burning her internally, etc.
nah that's what i meant. i mentioned the genetic thing because i read some study about prenatal exposure and mental illnesses a while ago but I can't find anything relative atm to them being related so disregard that.
It's probably just psychosis (if anything) and i was just knee-jerk reacting the more I think about it because her autism symptoms have been around since childhood anyways.
That term don't mean what you think it means, boo-boo. Asking for sources isn't the same as going off on a stupid urge to avenge some weirdo on the internet. Though I get the feels that 2-5 these threads later, you're going to refer back to this comment, and insist that someone said Red sang at Carnegie Hall, cuz I guess you're just bored and need to rile people up.
It's clear that you're just trying to create drama by making things up. You're not only making up shit about cows you're hoping to covertly tip, but also about any anon that asks for sources to the claims being made about a cow. Where did any anon on here do any of the alleged REEEEEEE about Red's talents? It 100% never happened. Red talks himself up more than enough, and does piss all to show for it; everyone knows that and even the weirdos who like him almost never mention his music on here. So you're making things up about both the cows AND the board anons, cos I guess it's a slow news day, so might as well go and do some tipping but try to look like you aren't. That deffo looks like the reason you respond to a question about ppl saying Red's a sperg, like Dorian is, with an accusation of "White Knighting". Ppl ask if the things anons say on here about everyone else has any proof all the time. I'm just saying. (shrug)
would he count as being obsessed? His Rozz Williams video is almost two years old, and sure he's got a few related tattoos and "1334" in his screennames, but on his radio show he barely plays any Christian Death. Not even as often as once per show.
Compared to Casey or Crazy Michelle, Ruadhán's kind of normal, on that. I knew Michelle when she was in Chicago, and that woman was in MY LIFE WITH MORRISSEY territory of being obsessed with a gay man's music (check out that movie, btw). It's not like Red has to bring up Rozz Williams in every second or third video, or —like The Nut-Casey— doesn't want anyone else to be a fan of Williams' work.
YMMV, but that doesn't seem like an obsession. Maybe when he was young, but not since he's been on YouTube. Just seems like a fairly normal fan, I guess. During his last few radio streams he gets giddy over Wall of Voodoo and The Triffids.
To avoid a separate comment, Casey is definitely autistic: Can't read other people and basic body language for shit. ChrisChan levels of suggestible, if you humor his delusions. Constantly rocking in place when he sits down, and sometimes that hand-flappy stimming they'll sometimes do, but Christ, the constant & unconscious rocking!
Few people can stand to be around him for just the rocking.
Don't know if the Nut-Casey is still in jail for violation of his probation, though. Still can't figure out how he has anyone who actually wants to talk to him, unless he's something like the ChrisChan situation, where the only ppl who put up with him are white knights and trolls.
I’ll be real, having been around the guy, I always got the vibe he modelled his affectations, exaggerated his flamboyancy to mimic Rozz - I could be off base, but that’s really what it seems to be. His flamboyancy doesn’t seem genuine to me
RE tattoos - three tats, with a forth planned, all focusing on one man that he didn’t even know, does scream excessive to me
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Dear god his snack are now going be buying this what next for money
His Rozz obsession used to be a lot worse when he still identified as female. I vaguely knew him in the uk in the early oughts. We ran in the same leftist circles, but he had a reputation as s freeloader who was glad to use mutual aid projects but got incredibly offended if somebody suggest he pitch in in any way. People just stopped including him, because he would make himself the center of attention in any project he worked in and liked to boss people around, but was incredibly lazy and shiftless. And would always talk about rozz williams, and how Rozz once said he liked his writing or something.
I honestly don't really have any milk on him. He was sort of annoying, and had a habit of flashing his giant tits for no apparent reason. After a few months he moved on and nobody missed him.
>>1334158> Rozz once said he liked his writing or something
Gonna call bullshit on that - that it happened that is, can totally believe Ruadhan told a story like that, but how old is he currently? Like 38?
He’d have been a young teen around the time Rozz died, somehow don’t believe they’d ever have met
Red is currently 42, so maybe 18/19 when Rozz died. So definitely an unlikely story, but not completely implausible. Plus, both Red and Angela have admitted to using fake ID when they were as young as fourteen, and it was deffo easier to get away with in the 90s.>>1334158
Where in the UK did you know him? If you met them, are his sister and her husband as offbeat as he says?
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Why can't he wash his hands .
It's literally a stickman coloured black haha I wonder how much he's going to charge for this low effort money grab>>1334300
He probably got them dirty putting the black stuff on his neck he always does now. There's intentionally messy then there's lazy
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And of course OF links on insta since her main tiktok got deleted because their team is totes ableist and fatphobic dude, not because she promotes porn.
thots want to monetize their thottery
OnlyFans isn’t closing or getting rid of nudes, they walked that back
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this is his next outlet for snacks
Just can't get away from him .
Seem to be offering quite a bit of info, for someone who doesn't think you've got much to contribute. Is it all that common, or was it back then, for someone who's living in London to be active in the Leeds scene? Is it possible you're confusing Red with someone else?
I'm starting to find your details suspect. After giving a lot of details about what you say he was like at cookout, you said you can't add much about him. Then you go into some details about how he looked, back then. All this after saying a couple days ago that you met him once? Are you sure you're thinking about the right person?
This just all seems a bit odd. He goes on about his life A LOT, during his radio show streams. Because copyright, it doesn't always save the whole thing without muting some of the audio, but IG if someone wants to work out a timeline, there's probly enough. (shrug) Do you know what year this all was?
>>1336244>I didn't say I met him once, I met him several times over the course of a few months, until he burned out his welcome and stopped showing up. This was 2002-2003.
Isn't that the years he was living in California?
>Also this wasn't so much the goth scene, as it was the leftist organizing scene.
Well, the same inquiry applies: Is it all that common for people living in London to involve themselves in the Leeds scene, and vice-versa?
>I was with Food not Bombs at the time, and he would show up to events and rallies.
Except for the fact that if he did, it wasn't in the time line you claim, cos he was living in California at the time.
>As for not knowing much, you've obviously made a really extensive study of the man, and I just ran into him a couple of times years ago. So yeah, I guess I don't.
No-one has to make an extensive study of him. You just have to be listening to what he says in his streams. He's very candid about his life. Sometimes too much so.
He was living in California during 2002-03. He definitely wasn't in Leeds. Guess you deffo don't have milk or info on him. Nobody's fault but yours that you chose to make things up to feel special on an anon image board.
Well, I guess it was just an identical American person with the same tattoo, talking points, mannerisms, voice, and looks then. I honestly think you seem quite determined not to believe me, and honestly, that's fine. You're obviously very emotionally invested in this.>>1336673
Does she still do body piercing? I remember she wanted to be a piercer, but I'm not sure if it went anywhere.
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1/2 Feigsfar plugging covid conspiracy theorist white supremacists again. Can't wait for him to get botulism or something as the result of his "bushcraft" and be in dire need of emergency medical care.
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2/2. Bit of digging on this guy's profile shows exactly what you'd expect. For your further media consumption, "cultural marxism" is code for "the jews."
How many of his streams have you been religiously watching to imprint all this weirdly detailed information into your brain?
Because I don’t actually think you’re Ruadhan himself but it’s strange that you’ve memorised dates and locations of this dudes life
So I ask again, are you a superfan or do you have a crush
Oh jake defo will do a only fans
Hmm Kayla no maybe feet pictures but she to self conscious to do body pics
Piercing and tattoo removal which i dont remember her apprenticing in either? Just was suddenly doing it.
It gives her a jaw line kek
I got a feeling she going to start getting forehead tattoos next. She needs to stop cause they don’t even look good it all so mishmash
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Asbo of the park?
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Why…. She looks so dreadful
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Just your average boy cosplaying as a female character.
That's because you don't. Because you never did. If you had met him as part of the same social circles in a city where he never lived, then surely you or one of your friends has an old snappy from a Funsaver where he's in the background. You could scan or re-photograph that, or download it from the other person's Facebook, but the fact is, is you just want to start shit without having to answer for it, so you decided to make things up about someone you don't like (and clearly have never met).
If anything, unlike what you said, he was fatter in 2002-03, or the difference was negligible because of his old tits. There's plenty of photos, including the gallery archives for Bar Sinister in Hollywood, but he's also trans, I was trying to be decent about it,
Yeah, you'll probably reply "bUt ThAt DoN't MeAn He DiDn'T fLy BaCk N fOrTh!!" and yeah, that could be a fair point, but he's also a legally blind potato person who lives on social security.
Right now, there's positive proof he was in California in 2003. Unless there's someone else with that same exact Nevermore on their chest —which is in Red's handwriting— then you're either making things up to try and see how far you can go with this lie, or you're just grossly mistaken about who you met all those years ago. I agree that Red has a very Westlands & Cornwall quality to his face; I've been more than willing to assume that you're simply mistaken, and not just inventing some drama for the shiggles.
I would still rather assume you're mistaken, but you still never answered my question about how common it is that Londoners insert themselves —esp round turn of the century— into Leeds social circles. First you wanted to get technical about how "i NeVeR sAiD tHe GoTh ScEnE, i SaId WiTh LeFtIsTs," and now you're just flat out ignoring the question altogether, and doubling down on your tall tale here. Fact is, even in this year, it's pretty unlikely for ppl in the UK to insert themselves into other cities scenes. It's still uncommon for Brits to move more than 40miles from the town they grew up in, esp when compared w Seppos. Red's yank, ofc, but if his sister and her husband lived in London, and he lived w them for the summers until he finished his schooling (another thing he talks about ATT), he'd have no reason to insert himself into the Leeds scene like you describe. It's kind of obvi that, _if you really did meet someone like you described_ that you're mistaken abt who it was —but then you doubled down. You're prev comment mentioned his tattoos, and rather than take the out I'd offered and admit you're mistaken, or just drop it, you dug in some more. Sure, evryon meets all kinds of memorable ppl and have 0 pics to show for it, but _there's literally more proof of my claim that Red lived in California during the time you claim he was in England._
Unless you can prove Red was at least _somewhere in Britain_ during a time when there were snappies of him clubbing in Hollywood, u might be best off dropping this. You're eithr v mistaken about who the person you met in Leeds really was, or you're just lying about it all. I could say that Avelena DeMoray isn't just a pretentious fake, "but also her teeth are all fake and I'm her dentist so I should know," and I wouldn't blame anyone who asked for proof, no matter how inconsequential her dental history is. Ofc, if someone brought out proof that herteeth are the only real thing about that woman, than I'd know to STFU, cos they caught me in a lie. If I said in earnest that ADM has dentures and then some time later she tweets about how she's aat the dentist for a chipped cupsid, that Tweet (evn w/o location turned on) would at least call a rando claim she's got false choppers into question, cause regular dentists usually don't repair dentures.
The old pic from Bar Sinister I found is equivalent to that hypothetical tweets; esp cause its not the only pic on him on thair cite. Burden of proof is now on any anon who wants to prove this story abt how Red was somehow REALLY in England ATT. Pics, or it didn't happen.>>1337331
Mebbe I want to put my own dick in his cat or at least do a Dawson on that cat belly. Mebbe I pay just enough attention to him stream cause I work the early AMs and he's less boring than office banter. Mebbe he's been a part of my own social circles since just after Thatcher. Mebbe I've known him for years and think ppl here only bring him up when nobody else is doing anything milky, an then one of you remembers 'oh yeah, herp-iddy-derp! Red is a weirdo just by sitting around and talking about old telly & doing puzzles. Time to screencap his shower thoughts and-or try to make this imaginary feud w Red & Dorian a reality! Did he BUY anything that costed more than a tenner? REEEE!!!'
ISTG, altcow threadsare kind of a formula by now: ToxicTub & Generic MM Skinwalker #746 do the same things on a loop. When their loop comes back on its downturn, check on Freezer. When Freezer isn't doing anything worth talking about, move on to MxBooBoo. Maybe every third cycle, to keep it exciting — BooBoo then
Freezer! After Freezer and BooBoo, ALWAYS check on Dorian! If you can't squeeze a gill's worth of milk from all three combined, bring out the Wheel Of Lesser Altcows! Sure, Red has a smaller space on the Wheel, but there are two spaces for Spinner's Choice, and _I have my suspicions about a couple anons on these threads!_ Maybe I'm just used to the little oddball (oh, he IS weird; he's also toned down a LOT w age, he's _almost_ a regular, if eccentric, adult, lately. Almost), but sweet zombie Jesus, at the v least, this ass-hat from Leeds (in specific) needs a better COVID hobby. Making up milquetoast stories about someone you obviously didn't meet (at least not underth circumstances claimed) isn't one of ur strongest skills; at last practice some more! Mebbe sign up for a creative writing course at the learning annex.
Speculation and gossip is one thing; nobody reading this (self including) is innocent of it. But w Red in specific, I know there's outright lying, for no reason I can see other than boredome. I can't really speak to the state of his home —I've seen the same pics as anyone, but if someone says his flat has an odour of cat box, then it means they've been to his place. If so, what we're the circumstances? That anon, curiously, clammed up then got put out to pasture. ThoughId be the first to admit I'm not that trusting, but it does seem reasonable question there claim. You have to be quite disruptive or unhinged to get the boot from this board, and such ppl are uslly the first to share fabricated stories abt other ppl. If its all true, tho, he probly knows everyone who's been inhis flat and can narrow it down to who's married, meaning since we all know he and others lurk here, she was obvi trying to start local drama —which is cowtipping, which is a bootable offence.
Eithr way, some of you seem WAY too eager to trust anything anins say about a person, and _espesh too eager_ when there's 0 evidence to a claim. At least celeb gossip rags have paparazzi pics of a Kardashian by the door of a lipo clinic before they claim either that Kardashian or another had a cosmetic surgery. By comparison, this dumbshit short-fic writer from Leeds didn't even have an address to a lipo clinic! They came in, said they met Red in Leeds, & rather thn recognise it as a possible cow-tipper, other anons want to defend it, cause absence of evidence blah, blah, blah… (eyeroll) Well, there's him in an old pic (amongst several), and you can tell by the tattoo it's him at a club in California, taken the same year he was supposedly in Leeds. Short of either claiming Red has more money than he does, or involving Q-Anon levels of conspiracy theory (ofc, his FB does
say his middle name is Quentin (think-emoji)/sarcasm), I'd say it's unlikely he was in Leeds, _at least not_ during the year the other anon seems so certain of. I'm still willing (tho not as much as the other day) to give that Leeds anon the benefit of doubt, as it's clear that person is, at the v best possibility, mistaken about something.
What they're specif mistaken about is not for me to say w certainty, but its obvi quite implausible that this anon: 1 - met Red, 2 - specifically in Leeds, and 3 - specifically in 2002/03. There is photographic evidence Red was in California at that time. Its like there's a reason why eyewitness accounts are some if the worst (especially the more that time passes), and formr convicts get exonerated left & right by DNA, whilst eYeWiTnEsSeS still insist the exonerated person did the bad thing "because Saw Them done did Bad!! REEEEEEE!!! Stop gaslight!! Believe! All! Victim
!" Leeds Anon is eithr v mistaken about something, or they're jyst lying. It's rly only those 2 possibilities, RN.
Drag me for writing so much, if you want, but I'm not the anon saying that things happened w/o something to back it up w. The anon who wanted to drag Red for his talharpa or w/e choosing him more than his rent, a few threads back, at least had an Insta post to point to, and a screencao in case of deletion. Leeds Anon doesn't have anything more to support their attention bait than the fact that Red used to live in England —but in a completely different city, _and prob not during the time Leeds Anon claims._ I don't consider myself all that fond of Red, but some people who I care about genuinely like him (and I cannot tell you why), so maybe for their sake (or maybe cos that weirdo has grown on me over the years), I draw the line at lies. Question his motivations all you want, he's the only one who knows his own mind. Insist he's concerningly obsessed w Rozz Williams (I'm a fan, myself, and yes, Rozz has some WEIRD fans; NGL, Red has been, maybe still is one of them). None of that is demonstrably false, and it's not really hurting anyone. Insist that Red and Dorian hate each-other, evntho it's been >3yr since either of them even just obliquely referenced the other in a video, and plus it's kind of obvius that they both watch each-others channel —gossip is a spectator sport, and much like during the golden age of Gangster Rap, regardless of real or imagined, rivalries might be able to boost the book and music sales for each of them —or that would be the case if either one of them had the sense to work that claim to their advantage, even though they're both established lurkers on here, and likely know people think that; believe me, IGI. Their both pretty self-aware (ATC), so I like to think they're both entertained by this idea of a long-term feud, even though neither know how to make the most of it. So think that all you want, cause maybe those two _really are_ just mutually hate-watching.
I don't know anyone else who's name pops up on here regularly, as a topic, to say who is our isn't making up anything about them. Maybe that Anon from last year _didn't really know Freezer_ much less had the two cats, BUT at least there was enough proof that the cats existed, and that they certainly weren't living w Freezer, ATT. Red is weird enough on his own, that no-one needs to write fan-fic about him being part of the scene in a city where he never lived, at a time he probably wasn't even in the same country. I might have evenlet it slide off, if not for the fact that Leeds Anon both said a specific year, and explicitly claimed to recall Red's tatts: yes, unlike MxBooBoo, who's ink is surt of generic, ATC (she looks like lit evry other heavily tattoo'd woman w glasses & fringe, ISTG), Red has a few very distinct tatts that are difficult to replicate. As I've known him since pre-trans, yeah, I'd at least have a rough idea of what, where, and when, or at least be in a position to ask around. Well, looks like he WAS in California, that year, AND he already had one of those very distinct tatts. Going by a pic from same club, earlier in 03, he also _clearly wasn't thinner, back then,_ but that snap didn't have a tatt visible, so might not have been enough for Leeds Anon and their fanfic readers.
As evidenced above, Red was actually fatter, back then. Maybe his weight difference is negligible and just distributed different, but the only ppl who think he was significantly thinner in 2002-03 are either, themselves, also legally blind, or they just _didn't actually know him, back then._ You obvi just wanna get a dig in at trans ppl, in gen, but since there's photographic evidence that he was in California that year, MAW drive it home that he was also fatter that year, JIC our Leeds anon wants to dig their heels in a bit more. People who neither drive nor rely on someone else to drive them places, often weigh less than drivers. This likelihood increases, if they ride a bicycle a lot. I know last year another anon _spergd out_ cos Red tweeted abt using his Covid stimulus to replace his bike that got stolen.>>1338556
Yes, this IS one of her better pics in a while. She looks fine. Ppl are just looking for anything to be outraged at. >>1339364
Nah, I'm good. I'm not the one on here writing fan-fic about meeting ppl I didn't.
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He out on his other bike today .next week more tattoos …
>>1339347> Mebbe he's been a part of my own social circles since just after Thatcher. Mebbe I've known him for years
Your use of mebbe excessively and overall typing style/certain story details makes me think you’re a certain someone on the gothy discord
Not naming names in case I’m wrong but if it’s who I think this is, absolutely embarrassing
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Jake is out on his bike alone .doing videos other things.but his girlfriend not done video in months but is out in her other studio acting like child .with her so called friend .both of these two are hitting 30 .this guy is tattoos .I think Jake gone dump her soon as she spends more time with this guy.
I don’t think jake will leave her cause of her friend, i think he leave her soon as a slim goth egirl comes into his life he cheat and say goodbye but knowing her she would probably act like nothing happened, but have a 10 year melt down over it.
It seams like they are just tolerating each other at this point as they are all they know and they been together so long. They hardly spend time together
Love the constant body-checking through exposing dat collarbone region, but totally not body-checking you gais. Also, why is she dressing up as female characters if she’s supposed to be an enby or whatever Dorian’s weirdly resentful of other women being girly unless she’s the one being girly I guess.
Saged for rambling
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Am I seeing something wrong?
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Oh my life so bad . grow up get real job people work long hours you can sit in your new rent house or in your Jeep action like child .
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She posted on twitter this and in the beginning of the video she says she's a scottish prick, it could be a coincidence, she doesn't really state the date of her filming. She does say but at the beginning that the car issue may have been bothering her a lot as a result of ''her pregnancy brain''. She was pregnant of 34 weeks on her video photoshoot, so if she had an early deliver her baby is probably fine because 35 weeks isn't that early and statistically most 35 week babies end up with the same health as 40 week babies. I do wonder that if anything went wrong it would make sense that she's trying to spend her time on anything while, hypothetically, her baby is at the NICU. Who nows, let's just hope that the parabens, phthalates and aluminium in her everyday make up didnt't affect the fetus.
LOL and she just passed, right?!
is she actually insane? imagine seeing someone strapping in a dummy skeleton in a car.
Could u link the channel I would like to compare
What makes me think that both Leeds Anon is telling the truth and that Sperganon is Ruadhan is the disproportionate reaction. Leedsanon didn't provide that much milk, just that they used to kind of know Ruadhan and that he was sort of annoying. But sperganon freaked the fuck out. If Leedsanon was lying, I think they would have provided actual salacious milk. And I doubt it would have triggered
sperganon if it wasn't true. The fact that it struck such a nerve makes me think for sure it is Ruadhan.
Leeds anon: “I think I saw (minor cow) almost 20 years being rude”
Totally-Not-Ruadhan anon: What’s the exact year and place? Oh you’re lying Ruadhan was in this place at the time, it’s totally normal for someone who isn’t the person to know exactly where some rando person was almost 20 years, and their weight at the time, and make a huge deal about tiny facts to disprove some throwaway anecdote. I just happen to type in the same whimsical way cow talks while knowing two decades of knowledge about them and adamantly defending them.
Some details of the story, it just makes Ruadhan sadder
Like most definitely lying about Rozz complimenting his writing, that’s supremely pathetic, just sad to make up things to make it seem he leads a more exciting life
Of all the cows here, he saddens me the most, most of his time seems to just be sitting alone in a shitty apartment with cats
I have the same kind of car kaya has because I need it for my job and where I live you literally cannot drive up some hills in the ice/snow without a 4WD car and it's like that 6 months out of the year, if I didn't need it to for my job I would trade it in for a smaller car though. a jeep renegade is relatively small and fuel efficient for an SUV, but it's still and SUV and I don't think the roads really get that bad in ireland in the winter, especially since she only ever drives it to fast food places and mini marts anyway. and the fact that they both
need an SUV is kind of ridiculous. it might make sense if they were planning on going on road trips out of town or driving somewhere that isn't paved or something but I think we all know they aren't.
Well jake needs it to make him look like the big man he thinks he is rather then a overweight hobbit
And kaya needs it to look o so small in compared to the car cause if she had a regular one she would be towering over the car as she like 6ft+ and wears platforms
It clearly for appearances like look how rich I am to afford all this let me brag about it
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If Kaya is making a video like this with the skeleton strapped to her front seat of her car, she is a million percent copying Jade the libra. So obvious sis
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He out getting his chest tattoo today in White dragon Belfast not cheap place .god help anyone if they copy it .as it going up to his neck .and life is so hard for them both .she spends day out with her other male friend in woods playing
That could be a valid
reason they've suddenly seemed to get more funds, using money they saved for the Barcelona move, I could see kaya's parents giving them a small amount to help with expenses of the move or visa's but since the pandemic/their failure to actually try stopped them from moving they have all that saved.
I'm not surprised kaya posted almost right after someone called her out on here for ignoring youtube, I'll never understand her inability to do her job, and lie about how 'hard' everything is, when jake is pumping out content, well reaction vids, and she can't even remember she put her skeleton in her own car
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This is fake new tattoo .on his live last night he says if anyone copy his tattoos he will Sue them .who hell do he think he is .
Wait, so he's getting a tattoo based on a franchise he does not own the copyright to, but will sue people who copy it.
Honestly, if youtube doesn't work out for him he should go to lawschool. Such a brilliant legal mind. It's not as if fair use applies to people besides him.
Thats just her latest bandwagon attempt. She's totally a long time gyaru now that she got bored of her menhera side hustle phase.>>1340346
How come marshmallow man doesn't need his autism announced with a big red R on his bikes like she has?
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Looking like Battersea Power Station in the middle there
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I think I found the pic this is meant to be of by the way, the tattoo is wonky as fuck
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You look it.
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Aw. It's so cute when couples build a musty hoard together.
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Anyone want to psychoanalyze this? Ooof…
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Other bike .he has some money and life style . spending like rock person .
Ok, ok. My bad. Guess I'm the only one that thought drawing yourself as a five year old and with a guy that prefers his fans to call him daddy is a little fucking weird.
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Adam posted this story, claiming that this Australian guy just got arrested for "making a facebook post." What he fails to mention is that they arrested him because he posted photographic evidence of the crimes he committed. It's not a free speech issue. It's a dumb chud providing direct evidence of the physical criming he did to the entire internet. God these guys are dumb.
I don't know where they got the idea he would give two shits less about family members,as he's professed himself he doesn't but hey that's the least of their delusions. >>1345286
I'm also bracing myself for the inevitable erotic art /and or fan fiction that will ensue at some point. Unless it's already out there, really don't want to dig. Lol
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More tattoo work today if you copy it he wil be very upset .also he so famous he can't get out of tour van as his fans will go crazy so he think he full on rock star .
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Adam, proving that racism isn't a problem anymore.
Well, he convinced me. Nothing proves racism doesn't exist like ignoring the opinions of black people and accusing them of wanting to ruin the world.
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I can't understand man of 30 everyday putting photos up of his body how long will this last as on tour he be eating shite .only matter of time till he has new girlfriend ..
being tattooed on chest and arms makes you look more bulky and heavy (the way he is tattooed) I see a lot of people his size do it for the illusion to appear bigger and stronger looking
but ngl he kinda looks good ….
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And to illustrate that point, here he is calling vaccination cards "totalitarianism."
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So IBF is in the hospital and hasnt had her kid yet. Not milk obviously but anons were speculating she had. I hope she and her kid are ok.
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Oh no! Poor Lauren! She's too good to work like a commoner!
Guess bucktoofed titty pictures weren't keeping her alphamale in beer and flatcaps anymore.
I think you mistaking jake for someone else him and kaya have been together for nearly 10 years I believe could be longer? I’m not sure where you got this other gf from a few years ago? I can’t imagine someone who didn’t love someone would just by someone a jeep for no reason unless she’s paying him back? I myself don’t see much chemistry between them and do believe he is hoping to find someone else while On tour. But your statement funny cause that’s exactly what Kelly Eden does you need to read her forums she’s lazy dirty and uses every excuse and lie under the sun. I do think kaya is going to leave YouTube she barely put any effort in it for about a year now it’s really not that hard to record a chatty video while doing makeup or drive to Costa chatty video. She has no interest in it no more, I think she likes making tiktok videos better cause they only last few seconds easier to film >>1348751
If he doesn’t get anyone for sure he will stay with her but I doubt he will love bomb probably be distant and disappointed, I can imagine how many post tour videos he going to make saying how amazing it was or how the venue screwed them over. He sure is putting in a lot of effort to look his best for tour he knows what he is doing. If they did breakup I don’t think kaya would ever get over it I think it would destroy her so much but I think he would thrive surprised he hasn’t left her so he can sleep around.
That length of time together doesn't necessarily mean forever. Those feelings can fester for years as the other prepares for the get away. Jake could have bought her these things to show off and look good for his cult.
"look how giving I am, how rich I am, I gave my girlfriend a car and all this other stuff"
He probably has convinced himself that he's only going up from here and his wealth won't deplete, seems like that's something his narcissistic brain would do.
Could also be to shut her up and get her out of his hair, (which is working since she's off with that friend all the time lol)
I don't think that dynamic can last forever, his plan to sponge off her fame and money worked out and now the tables have turned. Someone as self absorbed and "driven" as he is won't tolerate her lazy arse for much longer.
Kaya is going to have a rude awakening. I wonder how long mummy and daddy will let her live in their basement before they force her to work a peasant's job lol.
No not far as remember he has girlfriend she was American she was in northern Ireland for holiday about 3 years ago he went back with her next thing they broke up .I think he into both men and women from what I can see .he also suffers with metal health issues and going around with toxic
tears not going help him much .he just started back working in tattoos so hopefully he wise up see she only using him for free tattoos .
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Dear lord if anyone bought me this I put it in bin .I can see all his fan girls getting them . anything for money
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How about you film a video you twit.
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that be two much work for her bet she be out with bff man and dog .she to lazy to do video .look face in this photo I tough she was on tablet s for it. That how I know she using filters .
I really hope the animals we never hear about are ok, wherever they are. Poor things don't deserve to be bought for clout and forgotten.
If the animals did die it's sad she cares more about her random Swan than she does her own animals.
Infuriating and sad.
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Apparently Kaya has 5 snakes, 2 rats, a bearded dragon, and a tarantula. According to her bio on get still active Tumblr account. I've never seen anything said about any of those animals, except one time during a live Jake hinted at them still having a snake but not talking about it because people give them shit about its living conditions.
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And she is getting induced. I hope it goes well for her
all those are well gone she just has cat Jake Sadie about snake on live once but I not seen any sight of it in any photos
They don't care about anything just how they look(sage your nonmilk )
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I mean you make the English language look bad hahaha.
But anyway you can tell she's really not used to acting "sexy" or comfortable doing it.
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Isn't that basically all you do? What happened to not dyeing your hair anymore because you fried it with a "terrible product."
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if she wants to change her hair so often why doesnt she go back to using hairpieces and fake dreads/dreadfalls? there's tons of pictures of her from 5-6 years ago when she used them to change her hair constantly and with no commitment and minimal damage. wonder what made her suddenly fixate on using her real hair only?
doubt it. she doesn't seem bothered by the sjw crowd, she even got some flack a while back for some questionable things she said on tumblr in the early 2010s and keeps company with people who throw dogwhistles left and right. she also still has dreads, see >>1349155>>1349395
this would be really stupid if it's true. imagine changing your whole appearance and much of your wardrobe just to distance yourself from someone you don't get along with
Exactly. She's been called out for being friends with literal white supremacists, and kind of shrugged that off. I doubt if cultural appropriation is much of a concern.
>this would be really stupid if it's true. imagine changing your whole appearance and much of your wardrobe just to distance yourself from someone you don't get along with
This exactly. And her constant vagueposting about "fake friends using her for clout." But also refusing to talk about her falling out with M&M, and accusing other people of bringing it up because she's TOTALLY over it.
Then again, the constant hairbleaching and dyeing might just be because that's basically her youtube content now. Her channel is stale as shit. You'd think she'd do some art videos or something.
At least she would of been "working". But her being lazy avoided and onlyfans toxic
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She looks fantastic in these pics compared to the absolute shitshow we’ve seen for the past four years. Some dodgy shooping in the fall outfit one, but who isn’t shooping these days.
It is hilarious how our bar for her is so tragically low that she takes a semi-decent pic and we’re mildly impressed. But look at her actually kind of doing her job and creating something that resembles content! And finally not crying over getting her arms out (no1curr about your stretchmarks)!
I wonder if this means less cringey actual content in the future.
She only looks good cause photoshop and filters don’t kid yourself
She even blacked out half her face a hat shadow wouldn’t do that >>1349144>>1338305>>1331676>>1348933
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Yeah. Who amongst us hasn't shared white supremacist propaganda? This is absolutely a problem for "the community" instead of just the parts of the community that claim the jews are poisoning people with vaccines. Could happen to anyone…
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Name is Severine.
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First thing that came up when I googled the name. I mean…. I guess at least it was unexpected?
Glad baby is here safe and sound. I did start to worry when she hadn’t posted for a few days, I wouldn’t wish that kind of trauma on anyone.
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Yeah she made a cringey video of her screaming NO in a field when Alan Rickman died. I think it's still up.>>1351901
Congrats to her but why did she name drop the hospital, if she has any fans as crazy as Jake they might try to visit her
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All I can think of
THANK YOU. The low ages of consent are put in place because we know teenagers are hormone-ridden little monsters who will have sex whether it's legal or not for them to do so, therefore not clogging up our legal system and ruining people's lives because a 15 year old and a 17 year old got together. Adults dating teens are frowned upon and questioned, as they should be, and you're still able to go after those who seek out kids younger than 15, no matter if the perp is 18 or 38.
Sick and tired of this "Europeans are degenerates OK with going after children"-mentality that American nonces keep pushing. Paedophilia is disgusting to every civilized society.
>>1352809>>1352846>in Europe, we are more relaxed about things like a 19 year old dating a 17 year old.
Most Americans, such as myself, don't really have a problem with that. Miley Cyrus dated Liam Hemsworth when she was 17 and he was 19 and I never heard anyone say it was wrong. In fact when I was a teenager a fellow teenager I knew who was dating someone older than her told me that it was legal for someone under 18 to have sex with someone over 18 if the age gap was 2 years or less (or maybe it was 3 years, I don't remember). I'm not 1000% sure on that but I'm not googling that to verify it because I don't want that shit in my search history.
>The idea that we're ok with adults dating children is a bullshit excuse made by pedophiles in America>Sick and tired of this "Europeans are degenerates OK with going after children"-mentality that American nonces keep pushing. Paedophilia is disgusting to every civilized society.
Idk about this, because every time I've heard it it's from a European. Milo Yiannopoulos for example said it was okay for 13 year olds to have full fledged sexual relationships with adults and said it was because "we have a different attitude about these things in Europe". Not saying Milo represents Europe or the UK but it isn't just Americans pushing that idea.
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She must be out of the hospital now. I doubt they would let her consume alcohol there otherwise.
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And it never occurred to you that this guy might be biassed?
Milo is part of a grift called "make up weird shit about Europe to make Americans feel selfrigeous and terrified." Like crowder and shapiro. They're always going on about no-go zones and sharia law and socialized medicine killing people. And they get away with it because people will believe them rather than listen to the people who live there. Milo is a notorious liar who wants to fuck little boys. Of course he's going to say bullshit like that.
No one in NZ really bothers following YouTubers, besides Shaaanxo.
Serj Tankian lives here part time, Jimmy Urine from MSI and that chick from Morningwood live in Wellington, Amanda Palmer is slowly claiming Waiheke Island to herself. No one bothers them or follows them about.
Why on earth would they follow IBF?
Congrats, you completely missed the point again. You guys were saying
>American nonces make this shit up about Europe
And I'm saying it's not JUST American nonces, it's European nonces too. I said that twice. My point is that Americans are not solely responsible for this stereotype. And it's not just Milo either, I just used him as a random example.
>Milo is a notorious liar who wants to fuck little boys. Of course he's going to say bullshit like that.
I know, that was basically my whole point. But almost every time this conversation comes up on lolcow or elsewhere of someone in their 20's or older dating an underage girl/boy people will respond with stuff like "this is so American" "only Americans care about this" etc. I can't dig through every single thread I've ever used to find screenshots of it but I know it has happened. Tbf though those might not always be Europeans, so I apologize.
Has anyone found out who „Ash“ actually is? She talks a lot about him being stuck in an abusive
marriage now, would be interesting to find out more about him
probably she went with that name because of the song by The Mission.
I forgot to mention the guy's age. Dorian says in the video he is 28. A couple of seconds after mentioning not giving the girl drugs.
So we got a 15 year old girl dating a 28 year old dude.
Given that she was 15, it's not legal even by UK standards afaik? It was a long time ago so it probably doesn't matter. But it is weird that there's this guy, and then "Ash" dating a teen Dorian while in his 20s and then going after another 16 year old when he was 23
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Well, I know what I'm calling Lauren from now on.
I thought we would all be forced to go vegan in the wokepocalypse these guys fear is imminent.
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I like how transparently he is getting fit in the hopes of shagging a fan and potentially escaping Kaya, (please let the woman free) he even writes for a shag
in the caption. He's never put so much effort in to his appearance, wonder if he has someone lined up.
We really need a breakup saga and see if Kaya feels more motivated when not stuck in a loveless relationship with this goon. Kaya seems kinda harmless and nice, but Jake has always been transparently a little annoying, selfish asshole.
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Any milk on this one she from northern Ireland.lots of kids calling her goth mum all under age.
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I can see big breakup coming.he got fabulous very pretty girl called violet as his surport act in London .also looking to do photo shoot with local photographer.its just time before they gone ..
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She just what he looking for …
He has mentioned liking to wear feminine clothing like dresses, which is why I think he wears long tops with tight pants like that sometimes.
That's someone he has collabed with for years. Not only is she out of his league, I dont think she's his type. He likes them more "kawaii". Not gonna happen.
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He also posted this afterwards like 10 mins later >>1354859
What’s her YouTube? >>1355148
she’s very pretty if I was Kayla I would be in tears thinking of the worst wonder why she not going on tour too? Maybe have asked her not too?>>1355127
Also why is she on tour with them is she a fan or have they asked her?>>1355136
Ikr they are completely different other then being “goff” I have a hard time believing that they have a loving close relationship, from what they show it like they are just friends who live together and occasionally walk past each other though out the day.
She is surport act for band she and Jake has done song it's on YouTube. toxic
is going on road last time she was aske she said she was going with him .
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Can't do her job .but she out with her friends agin
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She out with her two friends that are tattoos artist .Jake never out with her .I think it's just living like roommates.
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It would aopear she's still following him
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Sure they still together he buys her what she won't s.but she not taking her tablets for her ADHD .
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Well, knowing Orlandi, if she's willing to fly across the pond from Brazil to the UK just for fake's shitty ensamble then Kaya has something to cry about, if she cares. Is this certain Anon?
Still irritating that since she's been diagnosed that this is her be all or end all of excuses for not doing her job and acting like a lazy twat forever.
As nice as she appears to be I can't help being somewhat excited for the fresh milk of a break up between them.
Let's hope this tour is it,it really would be funny to see the numbers. I wonder how many old ladies are coming from the US to drool over him with their stimulus / disability money.
None of those are apart of adhd that more like anxiety then adhd My sister has adhd she would not be able to do nothing for 5 hours she’s a frantic mess running around doing everything >>1356551
I feel like she uses it as excuse to I highly doubt she has it as she spends most her time in bed doing nothing but scrolling on her phone just lazy. if it was such a huge issue why isn’t she taking her tablets to help her. Some people u just can’t help they expect u to do all the work for them but won’t even do anything to help thm self’s
Grant's a queer bastard and the last girl he "dated" was actually attractive unlike Kaya. Kaya peaked at 18 or whatever when she was a skinny goth and the only qualifiers for being hot in the 2000s was being thin which she managed. Lbr, Kaya looks like the spitting image of her dad and is large and in charge these days, actually maybe Grant has a thing for her lmao and her dad, but honestly I think they're just using her for her vehicles and whatever disposable income they've got since they're not going to Barcelona. Funny that I know people that would have called Jake and Kaya users and now that Kaya is unemployed with car she suddenly has friends to do things with.
If Jake hasn't cheated on her I'd be more shocked. They've got separate vehicles and separate work spaces. Pretty sure Jake is bi too and men are way more discreet at fooling around then hetero couples etc. He's far too shallow to settle for Kaya. I reckon since Barcelona fell through he's got his own plans for the future dopey Kaya knows nothing about.
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He just really isn't attractive without all the paint covering his mug. The hype is ridiculous from his snacks.
The discord server is littered with people rallying to defend him against any hint of a slight and it's obnoxious and cult-like.
Just silly that this guy is getting so much attention when all he does is the same tired content.
At least he is more active than his ogre girlfriend, but that's about all he has going for him, it has to crash and burn soon. The fact more people haven't seen his sudden switch to "daddy goff" and called him out for it is surprising. They both very adamantly said they don't like being called mummy or daddy and now the stump is all into it and profiting lol.
can someone pls give an update on these two in their thread? >>>/snow/899110
I'm curious but looking at the two of them makes me sick
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Happy couple …
Stop trying to make grant happen. Grant is never gonna happen.
He's just hanging out with her for exposure and rides.
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He got other videos up with voilet .I'm weak(don't use emojis )
Kaya and Grant photoshop their photos and the blonde girl is a tattoo artist and quite short and stumpy. They probably didn't want to offend her by altering her body to fit in with their shops so just deleted it. Normal goff things yknow.
Grant is queer lol. He's Kaya gay best friend. She cycles through who her best friends are because she's an insufferable user.
she was born in 1985
1985 = 16 in 2001
I can't believe I'm this retarded, I even have a cousin born in the same year.>>1357700
Ah, okay, we call that university as well, college has another name.
He looks like he has a ED >>1357513
What happened to her old best friend the small tiny ginger one with glasses? She did a intro for game grumps can’t remember her name. She made Kayla look bigger then huge. The last time she mentioned her was at her birthday party few years ago where she threw up
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She has jakes size now lol.
Every picture they take together there eyes are shut why
You can't just leave it that nonnie
tell us more
And, Ruad, post the poem or whatever that Rozz totally really, true story, complimented you on, I’m curious about reading this masterpiece
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Wouldn’t you be if you wanted to go on tour to support your boyfriend and they say no, and you clearly know that they are going to cheat on her with anyone female or male. 100% he is going to cheat. But I think it be all hush quite and she probably stay with him but it make her feel like more shit.
Pair of them deserve better. They are totally opposites and not in a good way
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do you have were she said this .she knows he going find new girlfriend.he resting his voice .just matter of time till break up
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He can't say she working as she not done video in 5 months.it be cat or her ADHD .he don't won't her any more anyone can see that for months they not done anything together.new year they be broke up
She'll have to give up the car and go live with mummy, doubt he'll let her live there if they broke up. Oh and the bike and moped will be returned too. Her new friends leeching rides will vanish.
Wonder if she'd go back to working or realize she needs to find a peasant job because she's irrelevant now.
Dark times ahead indeed.
When did she say she wasn't going on tour anymore? I think I missed that milk.
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>>1359390>Pretty much every hour I'm not asleep I'm with her
She's not going out partying, she went to one party for Halloween as a goth who hasn't been able to drink or party for 9 months and then had a traumatic induced birth (a previous caption implied it was unusually difficult and there will be a video)
No handwringing needed here.
>>1359243>because of covid
Yeah I think touring itself is a greater covid risk than your NEET girlfriend emerging from the darkness to join you, just a shitty excuse not to bring her. I hope they're already split and the guy she's hanging out with is new new boyfriend, because his obvious thirstposting prior this tour is self evident. Man will do his utmost to get laid.>>1359124
One review reposted in the last thread (maybe the same one) named Jake as the worst thing in the band kek
No we can’t risk toxic
coming on tour but there are hundreds of strangers coming to see us and a girl called violet and loads of other guests but god forbid if toxic
comes with the COVID fear would be big enough
I wonder if jake pushed the covid narrative to kaya so her anxiety would spike up about it, you'd think if they were planning the tour for so long she wouldn't 'be anyone extra' or they'd get rid of the opening/companion acts to minimize other people's exposure and just do a longer set of Munro, since that's what everyone's supposed to be coming for anyways
I kind of hope when he goes away kaya gets a little more productive without jake around,I feel like she compares herself to him so him being gone might help her actually make videos (extreme wishful thinking)>>1359390
I'm surprised she things she can bring shit like that into the nicu, depending how intense the care her kid needs I don't think the nurses and docs will let her play dress up and bring unsterilised things around not just her kid, but the others in there
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The sooner she wise up to him the better .I'm surprised her mother not doing something about this as he don't won't her .Jake thinks he rock star now and is far better than her .I hope she will break free from him.before it's to late.
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From what I could find lol
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Uhh 3/3 forgot to say 2/3 on last one jesus
Perfect receipts too since they're about Dorian.
LOL, jake wants to fuck his fans confirmed.>>1359423
Grant is gay. >>1359125
One of his stage outfits is this ugly mf going to change costumes during the show lmao.
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Your girlfriend has metal health issues this is what he worried about.
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In keeping with Craig Frasier and his other white supremacist fans, Adam no longer appears to be vegan.
Please note that "independently harvested" means "illegally killed."
I wondet if "independently harvested" means "bought at the butcher, but was rude to an immigrant on the way there so it's still totally alpha.">>1359825
You have more patience than I would have. Good milk. He really is fucking cringe. I honestly had no idea how bad he was, having only watched his IBF video.
the poacher dressed it for him
fucking delightful lord of the manor/Freeman on the land cosplay there
Yeah, that "acolyte" of his who killed two sisters in a London park was big news here (no surprise). The bigger news was the police racism towards the victims
I still don't get why Koetting & his cult of BALG loonies don't have their own thread, those crackheads are by FAR the biggest cows in the occult scene.>>1359952
It's bizarre for sure. Their ideology is insanely cringe & lame, and the whole scene glows brighter than the surface of the fucking sun, but they are frighteningly efficient at attracting and radicalizing disaffected teenage boys.
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Man. I sure am glad Mara has figured out bleaching and dyeing her hair over and over again is what's damaging it, and has decided to give it a rest.
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That would require multiple screenshots, I'm not really sure how to go about that. I was able to make the connections between the grammar plus comments on Violet's beauty earlier in this thread. He's also using his full name. So I crossed it out? Idk. Still a fellow anon.
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Couple more for good measure I suppose.
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Last screenshot I took but his Twitter is full of this.
I hope you post you're my favourite farmer. I know a couple of mutuals of Kaya and Jake so I don't like looking st their IG stories since they stalk lolcow and I worry sometimes they know I post lmao. There's plenty of people from Belfast/the surrounding area that talks shit about them, please keep posting.>>1360261
Thye post the IG stories which is good. Leave them alone lol
I dunno why you doubled down with a clearly fictional lottery story which you've never mentioned before.
What that anon is trying to say is the way you type (lowercase, punctuation is iffy, full stops randomly placed) is extremely identifiable so if you communicate elsewhere with those two and they also read the thread, it's easy to link you to the thread.
Since you've posted speculating about their money and donations before, and just pulled this lottery lie out of your ass today, I think we can assume the lottery story is not true. Switch on autocorrect on your phone and you will blend in a lot better.
I don't think it's the same person, that guy seems to know how to type. I think illiterate anon is ESL, probably Russian or something where they aren't used to using an English keyboard/formatting because they always put spaces before periods.>>1360447
That's why she needs to get out right away instead of wasting more time
I highly doubt you know them in real life. Your English is so bad that you're obviously not a native English speaker. I would go as far as say that you are originally from an Asian country because the grammar mistakes you make are an indication that you don't know how to use connective in the English language. No shade, but stop lying. Now you know for a fact that they won the lottery, like 3 months after I initially posted wondering about it. You have been insisting that Kaya is cheating on Jake with an obvious gay friend, making up clues that make no sense… you just clog the board, mate.>>1360333
Totally agree with you that these 2 stick out but I'm almost sure that "our Ruadhan" is not the
ruadhan. I've been seeing his posts around my side of the interwebs for like 10 years now and his writing style is different, more coherent, as you can see in dms posted here. I think the person who appears here to defend Rudy once in a while just has a weird fixation on giving his impression on Rudy, it's a bit unhinged and 1-has a crush on Rudy OR 2-identifies a lot with them, so takes it personally
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They mean "investing money in limiting climate change." Not literally getting rid of cash you dumbfuck. I know I'm stating the obvious, because neonazi. But this guy is as thick as a yard of lard.
I 100% get your point I only feel sorry for her cause she probably going though some crap with potentially a poorly family member (hopefully all is alright) and she probably hasn’t had a chance to be vocal about it knowing jake it’s probably me me me tour tour look how good I look sort thing (or even leaving her alone at home while he goes to one his many studios) but YES i find her incredibly annoying lol she does nothing to help herself only begs for free gifts I think rock bottom has come sooner then she thinks. I also think the reason why she stayed with jake this long and same with him is because it all they know at this point and they are so used to having a causal low maintenance relationship that they can just turn into slobs and the other wouldn’t care however I think jake has turned himself around and because he feels better about himself he wants better I can totally agree how annoying it is seeing your partner do nothing all day and just sulk and not help themselves I know from experience it puts your off them.There been no love in that relationship for years it just because it all they know. I think jake ready to move on but she is not and she probably scared and waiting for that moment and it will hit her so hard. I can see in her insta stories she trying hard to dress up more but I doubt she gets any attention still.
I hope he doesn’t cheat and just leaves her before he does give her some respect. But his ego will thrive if he got two girls at once let’s be real.
I get your perspective as well and all this is totally plausible. I don't like thinking the way I do but Kaya is one of the people who just seems completely hopeless and not wanting to change her life. At least Freya is trying to move on with life and Dorian well, she at least makes videos so she's doing something but Kaya, she's turned into a gluttonous sloth and she has, well had lots of opportunities to turn her life around bu she never did, she got too complacent.
Jake as annoying as he is, I have to admit that at least he's doing something and like you said, he's probably thinking about the state of their relationship and how dull it is and with his uptick in popularity online and him having fangirls oogling him and wanting to be with him, the temptation is probably growing even more to just up and leave Kaya for something better. I also hope that he doesn't cheat on her and just leaves her but unfortunately you're right, he's got an ego and he might finding it thrilling to have two girls and with how enamored his fangirls are toward him, they won't even care if he cheated on her with one of them.
Severine is a name of French origin. Interesting choice considering Freya and mr owl are from an English-speaking country.>>1359440
kek gotta make her life sound interesting somehow anon
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Oh god. They sound like an insufferable couple.
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Teenage girls calling him Daddy all night… Guessing poor Kaya got cheated on last night. But to get him back she is posting feet pics, knowing that guys will be in her DMs because of her big ass feet.
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Hey, does anybody know what this is about?
I hope one of these uni girls is smart enough to get a photo or evidence of him cheating on Kaya.>>1362337
It must be Jake that makes the money if Kaya is fishing for Belfast men to come round and pay to be with her feet. We love a 2012 throwback.
Wonder if her old foot fetishist clients still want her now that she has fat ankles.
Here's a thought, what if Jake is trying to set up a poly situation? Would she even mind? They don't seem to have any chemistry.
I considered the same thing a bunch of threads back but for all his attempts at thirst trapping, Stump seems like the most juvenile, egotistical sexless dwarf around right now. One partner is probably cutting into his me time, imagine him dealing with two.
Also I think Kaya would not stand for it, once she got past the four months of "can't get out of bed I heard a seagull."
Starting to think this Anon is either a stalker or like, Kaya’s dad.
kaya's dad isn't ESL and knows how to use periods properly, I'm sure.>>1362565
Idk, maybe if that happened it would be the catalyst for kaya actually getting out of that relationship and doing something with her life? I still wouldn't wish it on anyone though. and yeah jake almost seems like a social repose wannabe in a lot of ways.
All I can think off is how big his ego must be right now.>>1362337
LOL I saw that and I was like she’s trying to film her feet more then the cat. 100% clear now she’s ovs selling feet content. Even the cat was trying to hide her feet by rolling on them >>1362460
I could see it. Him having two gfs cause kaya won’t leave him
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No way he shot that.
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He didn't do the outfit changes after all? And I've never heard his music before but from his stories it sounds basic
We have a soundclout thread that covers people like that. It's mostly dead but if you can think of anyone to add, go for it.>>>/snow/942916
Expect a bit of "this is
goth now/fuck your gatekeeping" pushback.
It always seems like the young ones have some rage boner for her because the points she makes are true.
I agree with her points, though she talks in a condescending way here. I haven't watched her enough to know if she always delivers points this way.>>1363488
Kek no wonder they call him daddy, their standards are low because they don't take care of themselves either
Angela is fine and at the most you can say that she might insert herself into drama but her points she makes are valuable and true. I think >>1363554
is right that the only people who seem to have a problem with her are the younger people who think she's some gatekeeper when she isn't.
I'm starting to hate how Angela is treated as some untouchable spokesperson for goth.
Tbt,if she wasn't a hot gf, people would be hella less forgiving of her condescending attitude. We get it, 90s goth blahblahblah sorry the scene has evolved since then. If she cares so much, actually go to clubs and festivals rather than doing Halloween haul videos and complaining on the internet.(learn2sage)
She does go to venues and clubs still. She doesn't upload as frequently specifically because she has a more adjusted life compared to who typically gets posted.
And, again, it seems like the only people who hate her are younger people. If you have actual milk to share then post it, but otherwise you're shitting up the thread constantly just because other people won't blindly agree with you.
Learn to sage.
People are only questioning and discussing her. I'm not sure why that's so triggering
to you. To me it seems like you're the blind one with your black and white sort of view of her as someone who can do no wrong.
Anon, you shat up the thread and are very blatantly the same person who doesn't sage their posts. Nobody's triggered
that you have an opinion just because several people told you that they didn't agree with you. It's because you're not sageing and you keep returning with no milk and only complaints about knights or Angela being here herself (which, "hi cow" is against the rules).
I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to grasp, but maybe when the jannies wake up and ban you you'll have time to reflect.
You're the one who clearly has a problem with her. If she's as bad as you think she is, post some milk about her. And if you can't and just don't like her just because, just do what >>1364239
said and don't watch her. No one is saying that you have to praise her, some of us here just like that she actually uses her platform to talk about something other than clothing and makeup.
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Kaya whinge, and possible hypochondria drop 1/3
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Pretty sure this is just having a nightmare.
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And it's been a year since The Great Swan Tragedy. It took her a whole year to mourn the trauma. Pretty sure she'll take another year to mourn the anniversary.
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I hope this is her waking up and finally getting ready to cut ties with jake. All she posts since he’s left for the tour seems to point in the same direction.
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Potential new cow, ig: @faerie_facetiae. Goes by Korah, is apparently a “farmer”, artist and lover. Unclear what she exactly farms. Preaches love and light but isn’t particularly either of those things. Goes on milky story sperges about her abusive ex and then deletes the stories. Goes for an all natural hippie look but slaps on the makeup and sh00ps to high heaven.
I don’t have Tiktok please may you tell us what happened in the video please very curious or post a link
Probably got piles of clothes in it and is just a junk room by now another attic 2.0
Or is just filled with spookyboxes that haven’t been opened
This weird thing about the Swan just cements how utterly fake and mental Kaya is. She let her fans know about her pets when she first got them when they were shiny and new but since they've all either died from neglect or been surrender due to neglect she hasn't mentioned them, yet some random ass swan I'm pretty sure she's misgendered has caused her a year long depression. She needs to get a life and start to comprehend that the world has other people in it and creatures with valid
real existences and her laziness and mental illness is a drain on