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The latest alt cows thread, for all the attention seekers, grifters, and other assorted idiots in the alternative community.
Most recent cows:
Orlee Stewart & J.D. Temple
The Witchy Goths
Of Herbs and Altars (Dorian)
Avelina de Moray (Megan Blume)
Jake & Kaya (Toxic
…and other cows who are discussed but not necessarily producing significant or frequent milk
>beware of racebait from lost nazis and derailing, overly zealous whiteknights looking to score points with their sacred cow(s)
>no1curr about what is or isn’t goth or who is or isn’t goth, we have this fucking discussion every goddamn thread and it is getting annoying
>farmers are free to use the TT thread at their discretion as it was created to stop the sperging/infighting in the main altcows discussion from the TT spammers.
last thread: >>>/snow/1071952
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Thank you Anon!
Also, Dorian is dealing with the backlash with her usual restraint.
You're welcome anon! Worried I was gonna get shit for making a new thread but no one else bothered to.
Also "i'll apologise for being born if thats what it takes" I really do think now a lot of this is calculated so she can play victim
. She also made remarks about how lolitas were all trying to look Asian and yet shes being delt with kid gloves, she really has no idea how good shes got it.
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Seconded. Thanks Anon.
Clearly, there's no way Kaya can be expected to put out videos.
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>>1194231>I apologise for being born
KEK why do you have to be so dramatic? Just hold yourself accountable for once.
That post just goes on and on and on, in that classical manner kek (pic related)
>Bullies! How dare you bring up your valid points of criticism to someone with mental health issues, ya'll murderers!
Calling someone out for their constant hypocrisy and double standards, and overall giving constructive criticism isn't bullying, nor being a murderer, Dorian.
There's so much melodramatic talk about how these 'meanies' are taking her uwu safe space away with their nasty remarks, but somehow it doesn't occur to her for one second, that maybe MAYBE on the other side of the 'argument' there are people with mental health issues too, who perhaps find their
safe space in a scene or fashion movement, and her making a mockery of it and shitting all over the values said group stands by might be making them
hurt and depressed too, and feeling like their safe space was jeopardised by the army of ddlg pervs or what not sent their way by her. She's such a massive hypocrite and cry baby. Dude, you're 35.>>1194113
Thank you, Anon!
kek that was most definitely from the same 'night' she 'recorded some videos' and 'sat down to edit' and 'ended up hating the footage' all in the span of 19 minutes, as it was posted in the other thread >>1191390
Lazy arse exploited the same lie twice on 2 different platforms topkek.
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Fagsfail has been quoting Evola a lot in his posts.
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For some context on what that entails…
Actually, wikipedia is being mild. This guy writes some fucked up, exterminist shit.
I find half it hard to believe and there so boring to listen too lol. I notice she describes things in such fine detail And that’s how you catch most liars out they will go in such detail to make it seam more believable >>1194278
kaya just irritates me like just tell the truth for once you didn’t bother filming it Is more believable then the bullshit comments she comes out with. Or make your life easier and just stop being a YouTube then you wouldn’t have all this ‘stress’ she claimes to have from filming all the time
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Dorians dramatic lolita whining continued
what a surprise, him going full stormfront when?
He probably thinks of himself as an intellectual woke rebel or something,
whilst getting off to quotes from a retarded asshole with delusions of grandeur who believed to be a descendant of golden alien gods.
A guy who wanted to be a school shooter. That's not region specific. He didn't actually shoot anyone.>>1194501
I love how she always complains about people misrepresenting goth. But now that it turns out people are pissed when she misrepresents lolita it's all "I wasvhaving innocent fun and you're meanies!"
I know this will come across as WK, but I've come into contact with Dorian online since I was 13… so since 2005 or so? Dorian has always been dramatic and liked to tell stories.
In all that time across various boards, I never remember D lying. Exaggeration or biased accounts? Yes. But D has been mentally ill for a long time and makes no secret about that. Furthermore, are people tuning into ofherbsandaltars for the daily news? I can't even sit through most of these long videos and I kind of know D. The people who watch clearly watch for the storytelling style. I think expecting only the facts is silly in that context. Nothing lives or dies based on whether D has dramatized some story about her first love. And I say dramatized because I swear she mentioned parts of this before in the past, and the core of it seems likely true.
The lolita fuck-up was a fuck-up and D should have apologized without fighting back like an idiot. That said, people can also let it go, if it has been 2 weeks, it's probably time to stop flippinf the fuck out over someone's offensive lolita take. There are much worse offenders on IG - just look for ddlg "lolitas."
I just can't with this chick's thumbnails lol. >>1194808
Yeah. She's pretty much the modern Julia Zeig. Just "GOFF" posers who mostly only make content from sponsor shilling but couldn't care less about the actual subculture.>>1194501
She's so overly dramatic. You made a shit video, just accept it and move on. I can't believe she's making herself out to be a victim
when she brought it on herself for doing a poorly done video. It's not the end of the world, just admit you fucked up and stop talking about it.>>1194513>I love how she always complains about people misrepresenting goth. But now that it turns out people are pissed when she misrepresents lolita it's all "I wasvhaving innocent fun and you're meanies!"
This is the main reason why I can't with Dorian. She complains about how people misrepresent Goth and occultism which as a Goth myself, I do understand. But she then turns it on it's head and misrepresents Lolita, another subculture that is just as misappropriated as Goth is and refused to see how she's doing what those she complains about with Goth have been doing. Just shut up Dorian and accept you messed up and then stop bringing it up. Heck, just delete the video altogether or turn off comments. Just stop dragging it out.
Sorry, I don't usually post in this thread. I've thought about it more and realized that I probably am ignorant of this new personality she has, since I rarely watch her videos. I think the storytelling and embellishment has always been there, but I don't want to WK for stuff I don't know anything about. So sorry about that.
I want her to get better, though. She won't if she keeps playing the victim
and obsessing over some people not liking her lolita representation.
I do have a question - do you think she does her makeup well? I am kind of stupid when it comes to makeup and can't do anything interesting myself. Sometimes I don't care for her looks (some are too drag makeup for me), but other times I kind of like them as fantasy makeup (not for real life).
If this lolita "mistake" was the only thing she'd done, I doubt she would be discussed or on the list of cows for this thread. The issue is this comes after a long list of shitty behaviour by her which is in previous threads from her constant lies and shit stirring, to blaming women for their own rapes, to the special snowflake "i'm not like other girls" (yes she says she trans but she seems to constantly waver on that too). This isnt the first time shes done crap and tried to play victim
/blame other people, it may be the first time she actually catches heat for it.
Its sad because I used to be a fan of hers a few years ago. But either something changed or maybe I didnt know her. It also seems most of her fans dont know her because the comments on LWLN video says dorian would like Tylers snark about her but the IG caps show she really doesnt.
Same. I used to b3 a fan of her's as well. I really enjoyed her old videos. They used to have a far more relaxed vibe, and she had kind of a fun, dry sense of humor that seems to be mostly gone now.
But I just gave up on her after the "female privilege" video. That was some toxic
bullshit, and she never awknowledged all the people in the comments telling them about their negative experiences.
Also, she's just so fucking loud now. It's like watching an annoying teenager, not an adult eloquent woman.
Hey instead of playing the victim
, she could have done an hour's research into what Lolita was before posting her outfit, rather than doubling down and pretending it's the Lolitas with the issue and not her laziness and refusal to accept she made a mistake.
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I honestly think the constant updates on why she can't possibly be expected to film today make it so much worse.
Current reasons include… hair.
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All her photos are now “NEWLY SINGLE”… she was so into her new breaks bam. Idk but some conjecture he wasn’t a fan of her onlyfans
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Saged, because is anyone honestly surprised? At this point it's not about if Kaya will come up with an excuse to avoid uploading, but what the excuse will be.
Man I've enjoyed a lot of Dorian's videos and I appreciate her original perspective and choice of topics, but it seems like she thinks making videos talking about herself and her life is a substitute for real private self reflection and growth.
And she seems to think that being autistic means you just get to tell people that and have them give you slack and you don't have to try to understand others anymore, when being an adult means using the knowledge that you're autistic to better understand that you need to consider how other people may think differently from you (at least if you're going to care about their response to you).
She reminds me of this girl I work with she say a list stuff she needs to do but has every excuse under the sun to not do the things she 'needs' to do
At this point I would just give up on youtube its ovs it's a chore for her
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add no microphone and the wind to the list of things stopping kaya from working
Some suggestions for future use:
The sun, gravity, a weird smell in the air, capitalism, anarcho-syndicalism, crystals (too many or too few) and sand.
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>I am so speshul, only a few people in the US have my name!
>Gonna move to Wales someday because my name is more popular uwu
A name that he himself picked when he transitioned.
Also way to critique the gift a small child gave you. Was the customization done for you by the little girl not artisenal enough for your standards?
I know nothing about this man's history, but knowing how people in the US always like to claim they're "Irish" or "Swedish" as if they just got off the plane, they probably haven't been anywhere near Europe in a couple hundred years lmfao and have no idea what goes on over there. Which, as >>1197680
pointed out, is very obvious.
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Jesus christ she looks huge. Someone push that manitee back in the water!
I'm just gonna say it that I think this is just a pathetic attempt to cry racism because of course these people would try to reach for that. That the reason why Soundcloud rap is not considered Goth is because it's good old fashion racism. Never mind that the music style doesn't use any Goth characteristics at all and is still rooted in Hip Hop music just with darker lyrics.
I hope that some actual Black goths speak up on that. We know that they exist.
Well, rap is an expression of, and is often associated with, black culture. It's made its way into the mainstream culture, and is not "just for black people." But it is a black cultural product. Which is not a bad thing. White culture has a history of coopting music that originated in black culture, like jazz and rock &' roll, and then excluding black people from commercial success. So a lot of people think that it is important to make rap inclusive and available to everyone, but to remember it's roots.
I don't really think that the backlash in this case was based on race. It was just a matter of music. Soundcloud rap is great, and a wonderful form of expression and empowerment. But that doesn't make it goth. That's not a value judgement, just a fact.
I do think that racism exists in the goth subculture, as it does all throughout society. And that means that goths of colour can get far more negative reactions for anything than nonwhite goths. Statistically, the chance that out of all the people upset about this a few of them were also being racist dickheads is pretty big.
But that's not the core of the problem here. If they had just called it "darkly inclined fashion" or something hardly anybody would have minded.
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Things Kaya can get out of bed for: Cake and bubble tea.
Things Kaya cannot get out of bed for: Her one job, and exercise
Most are upset with the fact that soundcloud rap was played in a supposedly goth video. This doesn't make anyone racist. With the recent confusion that soundcloud rap = goth, and how often goths have to correct this, it's understandable to be annoyed at yet more people with no understanding of goth spread misinformation. Liisa is trying to pander to as many people as possible, including music that does not belong.
Nobody would have cared if it was "darkly inclined fashion". Most of the people in the video don't listen to the music, Roxy included. Her YouTube only shows emo and metal. Only mentioning them since she's been the most vocal of all the people included in the video, leaving multiple comments through the original video, not only calling people "racists", but arguing about any criticisms about outfits and music.
At least Freya is actually called Freya, Ruddy. It makes zero semse to be bragging of having such a special unusual name where you live if you chose it yourself. Sure, choose any name you want, but anyone from any part of the world can choose any name from any other part. It cam feel special TO YOU, it clearly is since you chose it but it doesn't mean it really is in this context…
He had to take the opportunity of receiving a goft to talk about himself, so the moat obvious thing to him was to talk badly about a present customized by him by a child, with his chosen post transition name
. You'd think this would move him deeply but nah…
Also, I find it super creepy how he refers to this child as Little Niece like it's her actual name. Okay you don't want people to know her name, fair enough, especially when he's hated and he knows it, but just say a pseudonymn, "my niece", etc… "Little Niece" sounds like she's a 1896 37 year old spinster who was called "the little niece" all ger life until it became a name lol>>1196764
To be honest I don't even understand her problems. How is the wind a problem and how did it get in the way of shooting?
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Sorry for the shitty quality. I just had to laugh at these two fat fucks doing their cosplay out in the middle of nowhere. Much Aryan, so proud.
omg you're right… right around the 5 minute mark he says audrey/aubrey mcleod. can't tell what else he's saying as I don't speak german
and this whole time I thought she was actually named freya
Holy shit. Good work Anons. This whole time I thought she was really called Freya.
She just keeps getting sadder the more I learn about her.
I ordered the master race from Aliexpress and this is what I got.
Seriously though, she needs to stop wearing those terrible shien dresses, they are so unflattering.
Haha. Good one Anon.
I do find it telling that she posts and talks about them as a couple all the time. But all he ever posts about is his music and "his people." I'd feel sorry for her, but once you go white supremacist you've made your bed and will have to post in it.
Or her family doesn't get mentioned because they disapprove of Adam. If my child showed up with a white supremacist who doesn't believe she deserves to be treated as a full person, I'd disapprove too.
I might be misremembering. But I think at some point they mentioned that they weren't racist because they "both had nonwhite family members." I can see that causing a bit of a rift.
Either way, I don't feel sorry for her. She's actively lied to protect his bullshit. When somebody called her out on Adam's racist lyrics, she played dumb. She's not some poor battered housewife who just meekly cowers away from the big bad fascist. She is actively taking part.
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Pretty sure she's sponsored by Lunar Tides at this point, because there's no fucking reason why she makes these boring videos every couple of weeks. All she does is paint one side of her head, there's nothing creative about her slapping glorified food coloring on her fucked up bleached crispy wheat hair. Someone asked her in her comments too what the fuck is up with her and she claims she's sooooo busy tattooing and doodling.
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>>1201756>my instagram is rather active.
Uhhuh. Such varied content.
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What fresh hell is this?
I guess trolling is her new identity.
>>1201853>always secretly hated pastel & bunnies
She can't really let that one go, take notes, and move on, now can she? kek
Genuinely intrigued to hear this so-called diss-track.
Also, why does she always feel the need to talk herself down like that in these announcements? Like, if you genuinely think your track / look / whatever is 'crap', perhaps just don't release it? No one's hardly heard the thing yet, and she's already fishing hardcore for compliments.
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Hadn’t seen anything about reeree in a while, looked her up and it looks like she’s integrating back to social media (with tiktok surprisingly)
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Had to barf in my mouth a little reading this:
She wants to be ~everyone’s internet mom~
wtf if you need
an 'internet mom'?
I can't tell if that's ridiculously cringe or plain disgusting.
Why can't you call it, like, online role model? Online older friend? uwu goff big sis idk… Internet support group. This whole 'internet mum' concept is both stupid and gross.
On behalf of everyone in Wales; stay the fuck in the US, we don't want your pathetic poser ass.
He'd get the everliving shit beaten out of him over here for adopting our Welsh culture and pretending to be one of us. And shoehorning us into the same category as the Irish (nothing against the Irish but it's apples and oranges, numbnut) is one of the most insulting things you can do to a Welsh person.
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Mara makes a total of 4 stories because someone accused her of blackface… But distancing herself from the Uber-Celts is too much.
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That's the post in question bte
They're the only friends with clout she has left. She only cares about the appearance of not being racist, and clicks.
We've seen hoe she struggles with creating content and getting views on her own.
Oh my god the cringey "moves."
So presumably the person finally out of her life is her crazy ex who tried to poison her. I guess her mum finally cut ties with her as well.
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She's struggling to even reach 10k on her latest video, and posting once a month now. How can she be making the money to live? Bet Jake will grow resentful fast having to be her carer.
The text on the thumbnail combined with >>1201853
should tell you what it is. Use context clues, anon
>>1203263>So presumably the person finally out of her life is her crazy ex who tried to poison her. I guess her mum finally cut ties with her as well.
This bitch was still talking to that psycho??? What in the actual fuck. See now I just feel like she intentionally kept that toxic
person in her life because she wanted to feel like more of a victim
. I know that sounds harsh but c'mon, who fucking keeps around someone like that who went so far as to poison you? Retarded. >>1203373
It was bound to happen. Her content is vapid and she's boring as shit. Did people really think she'd stay up in the views when she barely does anything? It seems that time is approaching and she may go through what Grav3yard Girl went through losing relevancy. And I'm sure that Jake is slowly becoming the breadwinner when it comes to YuoTube income and yeah, he may very well come to resent her.
No. Dorian wasn't talking to her psycho ex anymore. But Dorian's mom was. Which is a different kind of fucked up.
Dorian's mom is a hardcore christian. So she would do things like give phrynne money and rides, and invite the person who tried to poison her child over for christmas, out of "christian charity and foregiveness."
just started watching the assumptions video and she starts it out by complaining… of course. and she also says "if anything goes wrong during this video, I'm quitting youtube".
I wish a bitch would.
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It does look like Jake is the breadwinner lately. From the streaming to his latest cover. It is sad that his most popular vids are "goth reacts to". It's just low entertainment that he still gets clicks on because of being "goff". How long can he beat that dead horse. He's really proud of his latest cover and the fans attention….
I know there are issues with IBF, Toxic Tears, and Dorian, but I will give a slight benefit of the doubt because it is obvious all 3 suffer from mental illness. And they are burning out or spinning publicly which is a shame.
Oh okay. Well okay, that's still pretty fucked though that her mom was keeping her around. Like you said, she poisoned her daughter, like what even? lol Oi.>>1203465
Eh you could be right. I'm genuinely curious what she';ll when her channel dies and is not lucrative anymore. Do you think she'll just get a regular 9 to 5 or will she just depend on Jake to support her?>>1203655
Eh I'm not surprised his "GoFF" reacts are getting views. It's pretty much a given that any idiot in dark makeup who labels their video "Goth Reacts" will receive a good amount of attention by clueless kids. I mean even Social Repose was still getting views for those kinds of videos so this isn't too surprise. But I'm sure he'll slowly lose appeal after a while. You can only react to so many TikToks.
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Mara bringing up Mai and Annika unprompted for the millionth time in an AMA.
Sounds like that’s some unresolved shit that should be discussed with a therapist.. it’s been what, like 4 years since they had their falling out? Yikes
She'll drop the tumblr act when the nazi heat gets too bad. Then she'll come out complaining about "cancel culture."
I love how she complains about "bitches using her for clout" but hangs out with white supremacists for clout herself. Way to take the moral highground Mara.
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Mom can you pick me up I’m scared
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Poor Kaya posting a whole collage of her and stumps as a romantic gesture, meanwhile there’s crickets over on his profile.
This feels more like clinging to the past more than anything else.
Oh I actually saw that in my feed but didn't watch because I don't like him but I totally forgot it was April 1dt when I saw that pop up. Well at least he knows his relevancy is declining.>>1204084
These people just like headaches. To think I was (and honestly still am) into their outfit posts only to learn that they are so full of drama.>>1204104
Holy fuck, that's Sebastian? LOL I haven't checked her Instagram out in about a year but she almost looks unrecognizable now haha.
manicmoth responded by posting one of those slide deck things about toxic
people to her instagram stories
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Poor kids probably just realised she wasn't trans. And she's bragging about it. Awkward.
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Anons: Kaya can probably never get back to her old figure. But she can certainly get her body to a place where she feels more comfortable with it.
Kaya: I can now get a sugary coffeeshake without having to walk for it.
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Freya's fans are pissed. kek.
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Post caps next time lol
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Maybe I just don't get it bc I'm not from the UK but I can't understand why she keeps going on about Philip. I've seen people in her comments agree that he's like a distant grandpa or something. UK people pls explain what is up with that
Maybe this is her whole "scotland is my spiritual home, so I must like all things UK" thing. Even if mots scots don't actually like the royal family, sinxe they represent English oppression.
Though I can see why she thinks prince phillip was a secret grandfather. Her family is pretty racist, so it tracks.
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Literally dozens of derogatory comments about Prince Phillip on IBF's poem post but guess which one Karen decides to pick a fight with?
Her racism is showing.
It's hilarious how as a Kiwi she didn't bother pulling any Brits on their opinions but a pretty respectful Maori post? Guns out.
I'm British so don't understand the racial politics in NZ but I've heard quite a few white kiwis are pretty racist?
I think it's about the fact that the wealth and influence of the British royal family is heavily based on their colonies, such as new zealand, and the resources they extracted from them through the exploitation of native people. This applies to both England as a whole, but specifically the royal family. To this day a lot of the private business holdings of the royals are either funded by money that was originally gained by exploiting people like the Maori, or still negatively impacts them even now. The royal family gets a lot of their private cash from things like mineral extraction, which is often done in the wildlands that Maori use to sustain their traditional way of life
Also, Prince phillip is a member of the royal family as a whole. And they're responsible for the colonial wars in new zealand in the 19th century, which killed millions of Maori. Of course, prince phillip didn't personally kill anyone. But the only reason people give a damn about this grumpy old rando is the fact that he is a royal. And people tend to gloss over exactly what that means. Saying that the royal family is so great involves ignoring a lot of atrocious stuff that they did. And while I don't really think calling out someone on what their ancestors did, if their ancestors are literally the source of their status it becomes a different matter.
As for Freeza, I think more than anything it's an indication of how weirdly superficial she is. She claims to be "so upset because her secret grandpa died," but doesn't really seem to care about what he was or represented.
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Lmao anon, I already knew this, I still think it's autistic as fuck to be chimping out on people's fagbook pages over this man.
If you really have a problem witht the royal family, write them a goddamn letter about it.>>1207390>blank stare into space>lights on but nobody home
> really don’t see what bringing up Maoris has to do with Prince Philip dying.
> Lmao anon, I already knew this,
So you're just a troll. Got it.>>1207390
He looks like a dog who has to wait outside the supermarket.
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Has Orlee been reading lolcow? Is she finally wising up to the BALG bullshit?
Tbh I don't get why she's felt the need to respond at all. This person hasn't said anything negative about Phillip's death or IBF 'mourning' it, she didn't really
mock him either – on the contrary, she's expressed her pain and what she finds problematic
about the situation very politely, delicately, and even with due respect to those who (for whichever reason) still feel saddened by this. Like, this should be the last person to pick a fight with, she's being REALLY diplomatic.
Idk, I can't think of anything other than racism. Though >>1207120
is pretty good too, kek the audacity these Maori have.
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What do you think about those?
Like price, design and the fact, that they are already sold out…
It is hideous?!
It reminds me of how I used to put duplo blocks on my little topknots as a child.
At least no one will ‘steal this’ from her. Like runes or metal buckles.
Hair armament. For when you… want to defend your hair from marauders?
I mean, not all of your hair. Just the ends. The rest will just have to fend for itself when the inevitable hairseige comes.
This is the bikinimail of hair.
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No. She refers to them as armaments. Apparently this is supposed to be a "spear." It's this warrior viking witch thing she's always on about.
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Kaya's insta is literally just "I can't film because other people exist" and "I have cake." It's the two things she ever mentiones.
Why she never makes her career or weight goals will always be a mystery.
Fuxking LAZY ass. Can her channel finally die now? Can her "fans" finally see what a waste of time she is? lol I'm not necessarily mad but I'm just aggravated at the excuses she comes up with and how frequent they are. I don't even like her shit content but I feel that her "fans", especially the ones who are wasting their money supporting her ever-expanding ass on Patreon are really getting duped her and should really wise up to the reality of this sloth of a woman.
She has the easiest "job" in the world and can't be assed to do it. And i use "job" very loosely here because frankly she has no job.
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She can't even look for holiday recommendations without moaning about how shit where she lives is…. Even though Ireland has many areas of natural beauty. Also does it really fucking matter if your tent is just in a field if there's other stuff to do? Or does the campsite have to fit your aesthetic? /Facepalm
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Annika is still selling pictures of herself.
Exactly. Her fans will watch any video she farts out. I mean, if I was a fan of hers, I couldn't imagine seeing all these excuses, waiting weeks to even months for her to post anew video and when she finally does, it's another stupid unboxing video but that's just me because clearly her fans don't have a problem with that kinda stuff. But as I said in my previous post, they're really being duped here and are being morons for letting her skate on by this long being a lazy ass gluttonous sloth.
It's been at least 2 years and I don't think they'd be out of line to speak up and put her ass on blast. I mean for fucks sake, the love-stump has been more productive than her, equally shit content but at least he's actually doing something and his fans are getting something.
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It puzzles me, that for someone who's been doing makeup for so SO long, she's never gotten any good at it.
The whole 'oh it's the messy look' charade doesn't apply, because this is just unintentionally sloppy, and sad.
Plus she says she just does the same makeup look every day with small variation so why isnt she used to it by now
It's a nitpick I know but she used to market herself as a makeup channel at one point and she has other tutorials so
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And states shes not with BALG anymore. I wonder what the story is behind that.
The overwhelming level of entitlement. The whole notion of her getting this dramatic over an old rich racist who had no idea you existed and would have mocked you if he did is ridiculous. But imagining that you should just be able to crash a private memorial because you're super sad is bonkers and arrogant. Is she mentally ill? Desperatw for attention? Or both?>>1213553
Yup. That seems about right. BALG has been shady as hell for years and Koeting being a racist creep is old news. And it has never bothered her before. So I imagine something new is about to come out
definitely in NZ. There was a state memorial service for Prince Philip just recently.
IBF is probably the only Kiwi under 60 who would want to go to something like this anyway but I am loling at her thinking anyone could rock up.
Sounds like she was let in eventually. >>1213599
Doesn’t sound like she knew it was private. Maybe she thought it would be a huge public event like Diana’s was.
Yeah. God forbid she spent 5 seconds googling.
Or, once she figured it out, accept that the same rules apply to her as everyone else. But that has always been a problem for her.
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Yes Jake, because the only thing stopping you from getting a Ferrari is 'practicality'…
Annika accuses other people of stuff she does regularly, and acts like a victim
when people chose to drop her. Just a few things I know she did…
likes to befriend people for clout, then talks shit about them behind their back and leak secrets entrusted to her. Psychara, catinawitchhat, maimagi, lilachris, ashtrayart, valentinwinter, blackfriday, just to name a few people she makes fun of when she is with normie friends. Manicmoth loves malicious gossip and she talks about YOU the way she shit talks others to you when they aren’t around. This anorexic is especially hateful when some fatty like friday is more popular than her.
shows up for photo shoot with hangover and hours later because she is a “professional model”
has unreasonable demands about free shootings with actual professional photographers, she demands they come up with a theme and accessories to steal their creative work to pass off as her own. photographers either tell her to fuck off or to cough up money, she throws a hissy fit and tell her friends about how she was mistreated by horrible photographers. Toxic
In university, her teacher refused to take care of her bachelor thesis because her poor attitude. Annika thought it’s a great idea to tell fellow students about “that bitch teacher”. She had to attach herself to her boyfriend’s game design group, since she had no idea of her own to fall back on. Literally mooched herself to graduation with someone else’s project, congratulations.
loves handouts and at the same time complaining it isn’t good enough, classic choosy beggar but it’s really cringeworthy. I know she complained about celtic fusion, punk rave, stuff Mai has given her for free, when Psychara did free stuff for her etc. It’s for free, be grateful and shut the fuck up.
Also I think they alll need to shut up about their falling out because it’s childish.
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Did Maimagi steal from Daughter Of Mercury?
Let’s rejoice because it’s not Aliexpress or Wish this time LMAO
She’s the one that makes the spikes:https://www.etsy.com/shop/DaughterOfMercury
Original product photo for comparison. They are cheaper than Mai’s and they look sturdier too. I wonder how long it takes for Mai to start a fight with this one.
Their problem was never with Lauren and Adam, it happened waaaay before they were relevant. Annika was caught with blackface herself, she doesn’t give a fuck. Mai and Mara were initially friends, Annika successfully got herself inserted in this friendship where everyone was a queen bee, can’t go well for long. Mai was always competitive towards Mara, Annika saw a chance and worked with her against Mara. They used to have a Whatsapp group with all three of them, but these two started to talk a lot negative stuff about Mara in a separate group. Mai and Mara accuse each other of wrongdoings in the official chat, Annika is pretty silent, but she is talking with Mai in secret on the side. In the end they blocked Mara without explanation. Mara called them, cried and begged for some kind of ending that makes sense. Annika wanted to reply to her, but Mai told her to ignore Mara.
I’m tired to read about nonsense conspiracy stories, because the real story isn’t that complicated. I hope one of them just dumps their Whatsapp chatlog because I have seen part of it, it’s juicy.
Holy shit. Good find anon.
Now the countdown for Mai accusing people of copying her starts.>>1214954
Do you have screencaps of any of this?
I'm kind of surprised M&M haven't taken a dig at Mara because of her racist friends yet. We know they lurk here. Remember how pissed Mai was when somebody on here found the price of her house.
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Keeping it subtle.
Mummy, look what I made!
He has such a weird toddler body.
Actions, meet (completely justified) consequences.
Imagine if someone had made a "goth transformation" video with the same level of lazy cynical misrepresentation. Dorian would have been all up in arms
Also, she posted pics of this trainwreck on her insta. Just look at the thread pic.
What a fucking drama queen. I don't want to watch her rambling because I can only take so much of her but please tell me she's just playing up some kind of joke for laughs because if not, good lord what a pathetic drama queen.
I especially don't even understand why she'd relapse into anorexia over someone saying her dress was not lolita, they weren't even bringing up her weight, the dress was just not Lolita. It's not fucking hard to grasp.>>1216026
I seriously hope you're right here. No one can be this retarded, not even someone like Dorian. She's an annoying twit but this is really stepping it.
Is she trying to copy Demi here? 'My eating disorder is your responsibility' basically? The whole internet just called demi out and yet erbs has a hugbox of a comment section comforting her over the same egotistical and blame shifting victim
act. Cool lol
Her viewers are unreal in their blind support of her. For an autist she sure is good at manipulating things and twisting stories to suit herself. I've always found that sus
She's gotten a lot worse. I used to find her earliest videos entertaining. I like perfume and knitting, so she made content that appealed to me. And her vibe was way more laid back.
Having a bigger audience has brought her shitty qualities to the forefront. She has thousands of people kissing her ass and telling her every single tantrum she throws is perfectly justified and BRAVE . There's no reason for her to keep her inner bitch under controll.
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>>1215794>The "L word" is such a trigger to her, it made her relapse, blast the crisis hotline, and abandon work
Yet, looking at her "work" page, it's still there in plain sight, written twice.
Just so that every time she "goes to work" she can relapse again, feel suicidal again, and abandon work again. And blame in on the entire world. Again. Logic.
And also so that even more people get to watch that video in the future, get upset, and "cross platform harass" you again, while you're still making bank off of all of it. Got it.
I liked these other points too, that she kept reiterating several times in the video:>I don't know how I can ARGUE against this
So the only option ever is to argue, what about just apologise? Or admit you've done wrong.
>What can I do to make this stop? And the only thing I could think of was 'just stop eating, dude, you won't feel anything'
Again, admitting to your faults doesn't ring the bell, but stopping to eat and pity-partying over it does
And then after all the muh victimhood she goes>Actually, relapsing helped me right, because I lost some of the weight I gained during lockdown
WHAT? lmao so it's not the "meanies" that made you relapse, but you just used it as an excuse to lose weight in an unhealthy manner, which you're now so proud of btw and flaunting your "accomplishments" and how you now love your butt on insta?
She's such a hypocrite. She really did pull a Demi, anon >>1216318
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and this literary gem of expression and reasoning
(saged for replying to old comment)
This is exactly what bothers me about her reaction to being called out and it's even worse now that she made the >>1215734
response video. I wonder if this hypocrisy has been specifically pointed out to her? Even if so, she could just be ignoring it business as usual. She always does, trying to take this tired af high ground position, her main arguments boiling down to 'these people are wrong and stupid because they're mean and stupid'. It's just not very 30 of her.
She's trying to be this beacon of maturity but lately her content has been little more than premature stages of senile scattery. Not to mention how much she tries to cry publicly about being so so misunderstood, when she has been hopping on other cancel-bandwagons on people who also delivered poorly or ignorantly (the whole adora batbrat costume thing, and no, this is not an invitation to derail).
For how much she reees at normies killing the goth subculture and abusing the fashion, she sure was making unsavory comments at lolita fashion in the transformation video, and it just boggles my mind that she could not see how maybe some people who are very autistically dedicated to their subculture are gonna be offended by the things she said.
I used to really like her videos, there was just something comforting about her rambles.
She also used to pride herself in "snarky letters" and "taking a piss", so why is it suddenly trigering and bullying when directed back? There were couple of comments on Tyler's vid how Dorian will most likely love this response, so I'm clearly not the only one taken aback
>>1216775 >It's just not very 30 of her.
Not a single aspect of her life matches up with her being a woman in her mid thirties. That's what astounds me. Usually when people are immature it's just in 1 or 2 areas of life but with herbs it's across the board. Don't be mean or I'll cut/starve myself!… that's such teen shit to still be spouting.
And she dishes judgement out but can't take a tenth of it back. Brings all this drama on herself and then cries victim
. My alltime fave was when she put herself in a mental hospital a while back and then cried about there being…annoying mentally ill people that she had to hear in nearby wards?? Like fuck all those other mentally ill people and fuck the free health service that gave her a bed after she threatened to kill herself if they didn't quickly find her a bed. The eggshells everyone has to walk on to avoid somehow victimising her and sending her into a spiral. I mean when is she not cutting/starving/drinking/drugging/halluncinating tulpas? It's constant. She doesn't even need any meanies to trigger
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Saged for no actual milk. But the little tradaryan looks legit special needs here.
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God don’t suggest something gross. Cliques of altcows who suck up to each other for 15 minutes of fame aren’t friends. I’m good at gossip and I heard enough to figure out the storyline. Details may vary depending on whose “friends” you asked, they aren’t important. I got pissed because newfags keep poking it like it’s fucking Area 51. It’s not, it isn’t as interesting as people imagine it would be.
Fyi, Mara didn’t mean to call out small fries like Annika and Mai. She has a whole truckload of sycophants sucking at her, shit must be tiring.
you can have both, especially with her upbringing. >>1217453
She was born in 1985 which would make her 36.
next thread pic>>1217897
yeah anyone can take a crusty nude in their room and sell it, it's so easy even grandma could do it. I could picture Fake Munro having a go.
ikr? I've paid attention to that slip too kek. Yet again.
She keeps whining on and on how she's victimised on a brink of suicide because these cross-platform meanies and "their ringleader" are so misogynistic towards her… but Dorian, weren't you a man? Why does this get to you, lmao
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Yeah I was gonna say, not to be pissy but I hate when people talk as though an autistic person displaying symptoms of other mental illnesses means they were misdiagnosed. Autism makes you more vulnerable to developing mental illness across the board, although which one/s in particular depends on your life circumstances.
With that said, Dorian doesn't seem very BPD to me. Honestly the impression I get from her is more like sheer Chris-chan-esque delusion and detachment from reality. Her overreaction to the Lolita controversy reflects how important her online presence and following is to her, and given what we know about her life, of course it would be, it seems like it's the only outlet she has for engagement with world. Her huge jump in subscribers recently probably only made this worse.
That doesn't excuse her delusion though, I don't understand how she could have spent so much of her life online and not understand how to deal with this drama.
Kaya hates her body too much. And she can't even be bothered to make content for her current platform.
Dorian, I don't know. In one of her drunken rambles she talked about having considered escort work in the past, but being too afraid of getting beaten up or raped. And she likes to take seminudes. But somehow I still don't see her doing it.
IBF will probably do it "once she loses the weight". So never. Like Kaya, she hates her body and loves cake.
I am genuinly surprised the lovestump hasn't tried to sell his grublike body to his snaccs yet. Maybe Kaya objects? Or maybe he's afraid to get in trouble. A lot of his fans are minors. Even if they're not actually paying for his onlyfans, appealing to kids would get dicy if he starts putting the full turkey on display.
Mysoginy still affectsfemme people. It's about how other people judge you. That doesn't suddenly stop if you identify as male but still look female. Mysoginists tend to not go "oh, I'm sorry. I disliked you for being feminine. But now that I know how you identify I suddenly don't feel that way at all."
Having said that, I think the only mysoginist here is Dorian. She's talked about women being catty and gossipy and mean in the past, which is why she can't "relate to them." And which is exactly what she's accusing the lolita community of now.
And god knows, nobody hates feminine looks like ruffly, poofy, lacy, pink clad lolitas.
This is not mysoginy. This is her doing a shitty thing and getting backlash over it.
Kaya is too self-conscious. She can try selling 'food porn' though or smth.
Also surprised how Stumpy hasn't started one yet, it's totally his thing.
Same with Dorian. Esp with how unhinged she's been on insta lately, flaunting her 'weightloss' body. After all, her 'safe space' has now been jeopardised, gotta find a new circlejerk arsepat hugbox.
fake has def posted thirst traps where he is shirtless with pants pulled pretty low, bleh. maybe he wouldn't go full nude but definitely suggestive, probably with the new bike he just got.
what's funny is he was selling prints of himself for a minute and made it seem like he would do it fairly often, releasing new looks. but that takes too much effort when he can slap some makeup on and bang out a bunch of reaction vids where he spends at least half the time doing stupid voices and facial expressions while rambling.
While I don't doubt her tism I think she's spent her adult life making out like that diagnosis automatically makes it OK for her to just amount to nothing. Or more importantly to contribute nothing. People with much more obvious autism than her are capable of living independently with just minimal supports in place to check how they're managing. She's capable of more than she let's on.
I believe at some point she got way too used to saying "I just can't do that adult thing cause my tism says no, end of" and thats why she often comes off as malingering. She's taking a real diagnosis and using it as a shield so that she never has to grow, to think about others, to pay rent, to be held accountable for what she puts out there.
That, and also suicide baiting. Don't make me do xyz, I'm a fragile snowflake incapable of adulting, remember how last time you made me adult and it resulted in an OD? Well, next time I'll actually go through with it.
She's manipulative af, if you listen closely to what she says in videos – she isn't even trying to conceal this narrative. She obviously does have issues in the mental health department, but she abuses that fact and uses it too much to her own advantage, rather than just her suffering, and as an ultimate excuse for everything.
Mai has many people pissed at her, although she doesn’t need them to make herself miserable. She has clout-chasers around who love to tell everyone they are Mai’s friends and they love to talk about her to prove they are close. Mai is the main leak herself because she chose to be around dumb people.>>1215264
What I just said. The funniest thing I was told about Manicmoth is that her real name is Lisa Maria.
Also she doesn't seem upset when she's describing those suicidal thoughts, she's desperate to embroider her story as much as possible and evidently loves having something dramatic to talk about.
I feel like this whole situation was a manipulation, why would she care what lolitas think when she has no horse in that race? She made it clear it's not her style and she doesn't really care about it. It takes literally 2 minutes of internet research to know the basics of EGL including that lolitas don't approve of slutty cosplay outfits being passed off as lolita, I can't help but feel this was all a cynical construct by Dorian to gain views and play the algorithm.
I think you're right. Dorian hasn't been in any controversies for awhile now and I feel like her views may have been going down because if you're not making interesting content, the only other way to get attention is drama and she seems like she loves to be the center of it because her ass-lickers will come to bat for her.
Because like most have already said in this thread, Lolita is a pretty simple style to learn and has lots of helpful tips and guides to help newbies. But seeing what a dramatic bitch she is being with the backlash she brought on herself, it just screams publicity stunt for attention/sympathy. Because big ol' meanie Lolitas are so threatening to muh mental health…
Haven't seen the video yet (at work) but going off what you said, this is gonna be an interesting one to watch. I get that anorexia is a problem and no joke but I agree with what you said as well about how unhealthy body standards never went away and we're living in the middle of another one with the InstaThot aesthetic with big butt implants that can go wrong as well as lip injections that can make the body react badly and whatnot.
And yeah the body positivitiy thing is stupid, it's one thing to accept your body as average but morbid obesity is nothing to be positive or proud about and can lead to all kinds of health issues and for that, that's why I can't support body positivity, at least not the modern day meaning of it. If it was the original meaning which was meant for people who were burned, disfigured, old, and/or amuputees, yeah I would support that for sure.
She didn't say that modern beauty standards aren't dangerous though. She just said that the ideal beauty standard during y2k was super thin, that this was reflected in the fashion, and that this made a lot of people feel bad about themselves. She never said things are great now, just that this was a problem specific to that era.
And body positivity does not mean "Imma eat till the beetus takes my toes." Those people may say they love their body, but they don't. If they did they wouldn't fill it with enough calories to feed a small nation. Both anorexia and supermorbid obesity are two extremes of a spectrum. The people in the middle can just generally accept themselves.
Also, neither anorexics nor extremely obese people ever lost weight by hating their body. You can love it, which means keeping it functional.
I can see where you're coming from. Because some people claim body positivity as an excuse to just eat icecream to the point where they need to wash themselves with a rag on a stick. But that doesn't mean body positivity kills people any more than icecream does.
did she get a new job? i know she said in her livestreams last year that she lost her job thanks to covid (she was an aesthetician) but that was months and months ago so i wouldnt be surprised if she had a new one>>1220380
idk if dorian will do that, on the one hand its totally like her but her and angela were on good terms at one point and now they're not, or at least that's what ive gathered from watching angela's livestreams, so it might create some awkwardness if dorian made a direct response to her. then again dorian is an autist so she probably doesnt give a shit about awkwardness
Oh shit I've been outta the loop then. I have missed a couple of Angela's livestreams. I didn't know she lost her job because of covid, that's a bummer. I'm sure she found something though. I just think that before covid, she had a job and that she didn't have to devote a lot of time to YouTube shenanigans which kept her from becoming an out of touch cow
> idk if dorian will do that, on the one hand its totally like her but her and angela were on good terms at one point and now they're not, or at least that's what ive gathered from watching angela's livestreams, so it might create some awkwardness if dorian made a direct response to her. then again dorian is an autist so she probably doesn't give a shit about awkwardness
I didn't know that Angela was not on good terms with Dorian since they've never interacted together that I'm aware of.
Hmm well I think the video >>1220873
shared might be the reason. Dorian just got butthurt because she's one of the people Angela indirectly mentioned in the sell out video. It'd make some sense.
Back in the days girls had eating disorders.
Now girls have eating disorders AND need plastic surgery to achieve fake exaggerated bodies.
Id take y2k in a heartbeat and im thick.
Being thin is feasible unlike current standards(no1curr)
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>>1221402>Being thin is feasible unlike current standards
This level of skinny is not feasable for everyone. And it isn't maintainable, or healthy, for the vast majority of people. If you think that it is, then I think you need to reexamine some stuff.
Skinny is still fashionable. But there is far more deviation from the stickfigure bodytype available these days. Just because things are bad now, and they are, doesn't mean they weren't bad before.
She's lost her job last year in the sense that the salon she worked at filed for bankruptcy due to covid / lockdown. Not like she was fired or let go because no one needed her. This was a temporary means.
If there were more recent livestreams where she has updated on the situation upfront, then I've totally missed them. But she's left the impression that she has been doing something
this whole year behind the scenes in terms of a job. Like she always has been. And living in NYC ain't cheap. YouTube was never her main gig, more of a hobby-sidehustle and a contribution to the community in the sorts.
Unlike Dorian, who's now 36, living in her parent's basement, popping pills to have sex with ghosts, and shilling her cheap spergs on the web, which are mostly drama, responses, or stories from 10-20 years ago.
inb4 infighting but you’re a fucking idiot Anon lol. I’m not about to get into some bopo argument but it is either physically or psychologically impossible for most people to achieve the Y2K heroin chic standard. Some folk’s bodies literally will not go that way even with a restrictive ED, or the ED develops into a binge-restrict cycle and makes it impossible. And actually, it’s entirely possible to get the Kardashian ass through rigorous diet and exercise regime, IF - again - your genes allow for it. It’s not that hard.
Tl;dr all body trends suck but it’s fair for a youtuber who particularly lived through the EXTREME glorified anorexia/stick thin model days to speak out about it, not everyone has to be an advocate for fucking everything at once.
Exactly. And it's also great that she stressed the important points that
a) how all fashion / clothing brands pandered to it, manufacturing clothes to suit only a certain body type, making one eventually fall for the delusion that they're somehow fat / disproportionate, when in reality it was just the clothes for the wrong bodytype that made them look unflattering. And if this fashion is coming back, have this in mind; and
b) that an ED is not only starving yourself or binging-purging. There's other ways around an ED
>>1221678>She's lost her job last year in the sense that the salon she worked at filed for bankruptcy due to covid / lockdown. Not like she was fired or let go because no one needed her.
I mean, yeah? I'm not really sure why you're telling us this, as it was said here that she lost her job because of covid, no one ever said she was fired or anything like that. and yes NY is expensive, but her husband is an EMT and I think he makes good money. she probably has a new job at this point though as it's been a while.
>Stick thin early 00s body type becoming popular again is way more dangerous than the current thick trend because it's accessible to anyone. Any little girl can start dieting and starving herself. A lesser amount of people can afford surgery or find back alley "doctors" to botch them.
kind of, but body positivity has people like tess holliday and fatgirlflow telling people they can be 450lbs and perfectly healthy, and a 30% of the US population is morbidly obese and that number growing, I'd say that's pretty dangerous.
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they're not really too different to each other, to be honest. They both love posting videos reminiscing about days from 10-20+ years ago as if they
were the only ones to live the REAL gofffick experience.
They also both post a lot of old "throwback" photos of themselves, if done so often it gives off the impression they miss looking that way/long for those days (kinda like Kaya and posting old thinner pics lol)
I honestly get a smug and vain attitude from both of them
i do wonder if Angela posted the video to intentionally annoy Herbs? I havent watched angela in a long ass time so maybe I'm out of the loop and she's done this before but I recall her complaining that Herbs copied a lot of her video topics; as soon as angela posted a video about something, herbs followed suit a couple of days later. One that stood out in particular was the Columbine video
pointed out, that is not most people's definition of body positivity. People don't become morbidly obese to look like Tess Holiday. People become morbidly obese, and then find Tess Holiday afterwards. Thin is still very much the predominant beauty standard
And the fact that not everyone is super skinny isn't because people don't want to be, but because most people can't
People feeling that they need to be thinner affects far more people than people thinking they need to gain weight. Either through full blown ED, or because they have a healthy weight but still feel fat all the time.
People are fat because they're sick, poor, live in a system that disincentivises exercise and makes shitty food more available. Or, quite often, because they like twinkies more than they like seeing their toes. And fat people know they're fat, and that being fat means they experience physical consequences.
Samefag, and my little outro comparison had to do more with their offline lives rather than their online presence.
But you do have a good point / observation.
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Guisee ya'll been waiting for this.
The newest addition to Kaya's Book of Shallow Excuses.
Everything is so mysteriously (and conveniently) coincidental in her life. The illuminati must be after her.
>THIS SHIT HAPPENS
is the scooter incident >>1222055
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Samefagging cause apparently, the bastards that had her scooter for 15 minutes before they got discovered (she claimed that in another tweet) are the same tier as murderers.
And now she's scared for her life, shaking in panic, cause what if they'll find her and attack, since they're mad she got her scooter back (literally from her twitter sperg).
Look at the dirt under her nails vom
(those that she hasn't eaten down to the root, that is)
I mean, fucking obviously. Crime’s gone up since corona, scooters/bikes are just about the most common target, she brags about it constantly over social media. Not usually one to victim
blame, but I’m so sick of this shit. And then posting it on her IG feed like some middle aged person on facebook, lol. How dumb do you have to be to not buy better chains etc for it, they even have that locked and covered little outhouse thing they could use for it. Karma for being such a cow.
Sidebar, but it’s hilarious that she’s constantly fucking whinging about “chavs” in the most classist way (it’s always because some kids have yelled at her for dressing like a 6 foot clown who just got rejected from a Rob Zombie casting - literally just say pricks? Assholes? Anything?) but got a shitty little moped which are fully associated with “chavs” in the UK. But if it’s black and I cover it in tacky ebay shite it’s aesthetic I swear!!
>>1222358>i was getting ready to record and then this happened
Lmao yeah Kaya, as if you would have gotten any filming done if it hadn't. We all know you would have come up with another excuse if it hadn't. Probably something like "the moon is rotated at a slightly different angle than it was yesterday, now i can't film:(">>1222226>I recall her complaining that Herbs copied a lot of her video topics
Uh, pretty sure this never happened. I know anons were pointing that out, but I don't think Angela herself ever said anything about Dorian's videos.
>>1222386>it’s hilarious that she’s constantly fucking whinging about “chavs” in the most classist way
Oh the chavs thing is such a massive eye-roll. Ngl the moment I've read about the incident my initial thought was "it must've been those 'chavs' she kept blasting pretty much on a daily basis that decided to teach her a lesson" kek.
I agree with everything you said, Anon.
And yeah, it sucks when things like that happen. But she really was being dumb + destroyed all the potential bits of a sympathy with her subsequent unnecessary, overdramatic, pseudo-paranoid, woe-is-me cow behavior.
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kek just like when she was walking around like a 6 foot weeaboo and called the people shouting at her "junkies". agreed though, i've always thought TT and Jake were the very "chavs" they moan about but decked out in black ""gothic"" gear
and not TT related but did you see the "goth to chav" transformation video Emily Boo did? It was so tacky, honestly. yea we've all dealt with idiots shouting abuse at us, asking stupid questions, etc etc but the way she went about it was just distasteful and mocking. How does it make you any better?
>>1222394>i was getting ready to record and then this happened
If we weren't in Woke Times right now, Kaya would be absolutely begging for a roast/parody song on Youtube. Just I was getting ready to record
and then more and more ridiculous excuses each time.
She's going to be mourning her nearly-stolen scooter for 6 months now as her excuse.
Why is she surprised at the theft when she left it outside with one shitty lock in a capital city?
And what about Jake'a motorbike? If it wasn't stolen but her moped was, thay means they DO have somewhere safe to put it and just didn't. Kek.
Doesn't he have 2 bikes now?
His will be safe , he doesnt give a crap about her or any of her things.
Genuinely fucking laughed. She’s acting like a GD assault victim
because someone scratched her moped?? She’s so fucking sheltered its unbearable.
He may have traded his old one in actually now that I come to think of it.
They're spoilt, they bagged hoverboards for free , now bikes and soon it will be ridiculous cars too.
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This was 2 weeks ago today, wonder if he's passed? no mention so maybe not….
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Bikes are Normally for fun and nice weather but when it becomes winter it’s to dangerous and cold to ride that’s why people who have bikes 90% them will have a car for this reason >>1224540
I’m not a jake Stan Nor do I watch his videos but I think he doing very well for himself recently he doing quite a few improvements to his life with driving ect He seems to be getting his life on track rather then slobbing about
True, he's spending those sweet stream donations on tattoos, bikes and cars.
If he had any sense he'd be saving for a rainy day or maybe something sensible like a down-payment on a house.
oh god lmao.
to be honest, I am still mildly confused by the whole swan thing.
originally she said "victoria" had her eggs destroyed and was depressed. then after victoria died she said park rangers said victoria was male.
then it seems like she admitted she didn't even know if victoria was really female… so why did she think "victoria" had eggs that were destroyed in the first place? where did she hear that? did she just see eggs and a swan and assume that?
Ultimate sob story. Dramatic story telling at it finest anything for clicks.
Who knows where she got this info from probably made it up
I get she loved that swan but they way she attacked others for them also mourning and the poor old guy who also fed the swan daily was so mean
Oh yeah and she said she had a park ranger friend (whose existence is debatable) who told her it was female.
She also said the eggs had been injected with oil. No idea where she got that either. Probably the same "friend".
Where did she say park ranger friend? I know she “found out” somewhere but we really don’t have park rangers in the UK, at least not in small/local/municipal parks - it’d just be someone who works for the council like a binman or landscaper at most. So not somebody who was actively looking out for the swans.
Agree, she was such an entitled piece of shit over that fucking wild bird, that time she filmed somebody who CLEARLY had learning disabilities and then roasted them online was mortifying. As with everything.
Don’t have a source/image, it was maybe on Twitter if anybody else fancies scrolling through the total Kim there’s people who are dying-fest it is right now.
She spurged about how somebody was really upsetting Victoria’s delicate sensibilities by chasing her or trying to pet her or something. She filmed the ground while she made pathetic, equally retarded whines at this person saying they was REALLY upsetting the swan.
It was totally apparent from the person’s voice (and therefore was probably even moreso from their behaviour) that they had some kind of learning/developmental thing. They’d obviously fucking seen Kaya cuddling up to this bird on her picnic blanket, petting her and feeding her, so why the fuck wouldn’t they think it was a friendly, pettable animal?
Even her fans replied in her own way that trying to condemn this person was a terrible fucking take. She has literally no concept of other people.
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whoops, my bad. the friend of hers is "someone who works rescuing wildlife". the person who found the swan was supposedly a park ranger, according to this commenter.>>1225160
jesus christ I totally missed that. kaya is such a goddamn womanchild.
Np Anon, I was genuinely curious, I see someone else refers to a park ranger here.
This is fucking painful to look at. Imagine badgering confused Facebook locals about the sex of a dead swan…fucking hilarious that she was wrong tbh. She’s always had that “animals love me!!! I am a Disney princess!!!!” vibe in older videos where she harrasses wildlife that wants nothing to do with her.
I reckon he’ll buy it and his name will be on the mortgage but sappy Kaya will drag her fat ass along with him and neither of them will protest cos they have the worst case of inertia ever.
As for the outburst about loan/insurance companies, it’s just Jake being a whiny self-important brat to his fans who are mostly too young to understand and think their fave is just being discriminated against. Most adults THINK about their borrowing abilities before they accept work as a freelancer/self-employed. Of course local Irish insurance companies don’t recognise fucking “influencer” as a job. You have literally no salary and your income could tank at any time.
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People are mentioning Dorian on her video apparently
Samefag because mobile but remember they had the EXACT same conversations about both London and LA when they visited Kelly Eden and Dre. It was nothing to do with Barcelona specifically, it was just two whiny kids playing make believe and it just so happened that Barca was most likely because they could sponge off Kaya’s dad.
Plus, as other people have pointed out, Kaya still has EU citizenship and could marry Jake. I don’t have any beef with adults who just choose not to get married, but if this REALLY was a move they wanted to make, why the fuck not? And then they could have moved regardless of Brexit, and just saved up and waited for corona to lift (it’s been what, a year? Not really a long time to wait if you think it’s going to be a lifechanging move).
Just because these idiots say they want to do something doesn’t mean they’re making moves on it, unless it’s as simple as spending some money.
My god I forgot about that debaucher why has he still got a platform.
But yes anyone can move even with small amounts of money toxic
and jake don’t even have a excuse as her dad lives there he could help them out or let them live with him for a few weeks. They will never do anything.
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Poor little traumatized bby uwu
Well in typical Kaya fashion she doesn't take
the ADHD medication, with some weakass excuse about it potentially disrupting her sleeping pattern.
If she actually took them she might make some progress with any of her tasks and to-do lists.
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Oh dear - looks like Lauren and Adam's mental racist flag waving had some consequences.
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No mention of how weird it is to be waving a stupid fucking flag on a nature walk.
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Schwarzkittel, or Matthias, Freyja's German ex-husband, set up an OnlyFans account yesterday and is now promoting it on his Instagram.
I guess that's what happens when you whore around with a bunch of German alt girls, your "art" sales plummet and you end up being a washed up semi-influencer. So strange.
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This is his art btw wtf?
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Strap in kids, Fagsfail has dropped the pretence.
1/5, sorry. On mobile
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This is the logical response to people telling you you might be a racist because of all the racist stuff you say.
Every german alt influencer is a cow and a washed up z-lister. The ~art~ is like something people make in therapy to express their ~weltschmerz~ uwu. Super cringe and sad.>>1227373
Lol get fucked. Felvae is more suitable for the tradthot thread, me thinks.
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And of course, the comment section is all about the "heritage"
I think they're here because they were first mentioned in their connection to Psychara. Since they're using her for clout, and the word is still out on if she's drunk the white pride kool-aid, or if she's just ignoring it because nazi friends are better than no friends.
But I agree. A fashgoth thread might be fun.
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Everything about this is weird and off-putting.
His body, the horribly blurry, low quality black-and-white filtered image, his run-of-the-mill guy-next-door body, the fact he even thought of doing this, and to top it all off: I bet he'll make good money with this. At least more than he makes with his "art" sales. He's popular with young, tryhard German "alt" girls and 40+ "goth" single mothers alike. Just check his Instagram comments.
Sad to see them simping for a middle aged z-lister who became famous for supplying a "goth YouTuber" with a German visa.
If this is the general quality of his "hot content from hell", I'd like to see the rest of his content, but I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than give him money.
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has been removed from Adam's instagram. Guess he caved to the evil communist oppressors of instagram after all. Bravely defending your racist shit is nice and all, but we don't want it to affect the bottom line.
What a little bitch. I'm all for him removing his fashy bullshit. But I guess saving today's youth from the horrors of woke culture and postmodernism wasn't such a big deal after all.
Well. He's got his bucktoothed tradthot. Doubt she's saving it for marriage but showing her tits on onlyfans.
Wasn't he a vegan? So no chance of him poisoning himself on the carnivore diet like peterson did. Pity.
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Not onlyfans AFAIK but she has a patreon level for her NSFW photos of her tits.
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Saw this and thought of Lauren + Adam
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Oh man! Kaya was on holiday, but after that she had to stop being on holiday.
Life is just so cruel to her.
It’s incredible that Jake’s now living the gross vlogger lifestyle of his dreams (on the surface, that car’s definitely leased) with her in tow and she still finds a way to be so incredibly negative. It’s completely psychosomatic. This from a girl who apparently used to wait up til midnight for her dole money to come in just so she could buy food. It’s not groundbreaking to say this but tinfoil is that she’s always had a safety net (ie could have gone round to either to her parents’ for a bed and a hot meal) and has always been spoiled.
Powering through with consistent medication, going to behavioural therapy, walking outside every other day and cutting out sugar would change this girl’s life I swear. Even to just start have some semblance of mood stability and discipline instead of burying her discomfort with short time euphoria (read: overconsuming stupid plastic crap). Not boot camp, not a massive drastic purchase or new hobby, just consistently looking after her core needs. She will literally never make the change if she’s behaving like this in her late 20s tho.
Also, kek at the fact she is still, SIX(?) years after gaining weight, trying to cover her stretchmarks in pictures. I get being self conscious but she’s been consistently “bigger” (as much as we love to take the piss, the girl is a normal UK size, I’m sorry, she just used to be very thin) for over half a decade now and is still trying to awkwardly hide stuff from her audience sends a bad message.
Saged for autistic rant.
She’s not fat but she’s definitely way thicker than she used to be, her hips look twice the size than her LA ink days (where she was probably underweight). You can tell there is a lot more weight on her face too. She’s maybe self conscious about that.
Song is meh and over produced.
This was so damn bad! It looks like high school kids shot and acted in this in the early 2000s. And the old man looking like a 13yro emo kid?
This whole thing is embarrassing.
Can't believe I'm about to type this but Allison's music videos were way better than this and she doesn't shit money like Karen von D. I thought Allison's vanity career was embarrassing because she couldn't sing well and the videos were funny but compared to this
, her music is actually just mediocre, but it isn't literally nothing like KVD's! Like, after you listen to it, can you sing it? Hum it? Me neither. It sounds like an AI was programmed to produce a "sad" pop song and was loaded with every song by billie eilish and lana del rey and that's the outcome. Completely empty and forgetful. The video looks like she had the same budget and connections as Allison but she's millionaire…
It's so tacky, like she's stuck in 2014 AHS coven era. How can a 40 year old not have developed a personality?
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Why is this the horrible histories font.
Vegan isn’t a personality?
Honestly though. She’s so boring.
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I've always wondered if Jazmin Bean was an industry plant. Despite her music being edgy tumblr trash, she got known quite rapidly. She was also featured on Vogue's channel only 2 months after the release of her first independent music video. Both of her parents also work in the industry, so yeah
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I found the place they were staying at if anyone cares
I love her looks and understand her getting a video with Vogue, because they have a series of alt makeup videos. But her music really is Myspace scene era shit. I don't think she's fully a plant but she definitely had help to get picked up by Island Records after barely releasing her first album.
Her gender special autism is also a little cringe to me, idk about y'all. She posted about getting top surgery some weeks ago even though she presents femme as fuck, like?
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Her friends (Salvia, Genesis Fawn etc) are so much more talented than she is. Her looks are sloppy and super repetitive. Idk, I'm just not into the heavy black makeup with the soft pastel dolly everything else. The nose thing she does is retarded too.
All of this. I guess part of it is her being very young though. When those vogue and barcroft videos were made she was 15/16, which makes everyone look bratty.
It does make you wonder how a 16 year old managed to release a makeup line without some serious backing.
Exactly. If it has "chloro-anything in the ingredients listed, it has bleach.
She basically dyes her hair for a living. This should not be so hard
speaking of Mara, she recently posted on her ig stories that she's going to start posting outfit photos again, but only on patreon.
she keeps complaining about her reach and 'shadowbans' and whatever but sooooo many people started following her back in the day because of her outfit photos. she's doing herself a disservice imo by limiting them to patreon. feel like she could build up a fresh social media audience pretty easily again with outfits
So she's a drama queen perpetually playing victim
? Nothing new there, but at least this is more transparent now, wonder if she'll get any white knights this time. She doesnt give a shit about triggering
others but we have to care when its her mental health at risk here.
Mara thinks she's shadowbanned? Why? All she posts about is hair. There's no reason to shadowban her. She posted some platitudes about BLM, but nothing more than a lot of other influencers.
Her content is just stale.
She traded all of her bitcoin for dogecoin just before dogecoin crashed.
Such amazing prophetic powers.
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Plus it seems Kaya hasn't actually uploaded any videos from her new studio despite having it for months now?
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Kaya's troon friend looks a million times more feminine and better than her. Damn.
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So Fake mentioned in his new video that he doesn't do clothes hauls any more and specifically mentioned Killstar and how they don't pay their influencers. Wonder if that means that Kaya will follow suit? Or maybe there's more to it…
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Emily back with the shiity face tats(no apostrophe in tattoos btw retard)Now she's hopped on the attention whore bandwagon(she has been for years tho.Remember her now unspoken about mermaid phase?)and she's going by they/them.Why can't this try hard toad be called out more?She'll do anything for views kek
Samefag, cba to edit on mobile but saged for my autism.
That’s exactly the point. Until you’re at real celebrity status there’s no point in a company paying for an Instagram post when there’s hundreds of microinfluencers who will happily take some pics in exchange for products. And yes there’s some work involved in making a whole try on video, but you’re getting £100s worth of clothes for free. Fake thinks he’s a Kardashian or some shit.
Remember last year when Killstar came under fire for BLM stuff/never having poc
models? It’s really fucking telling how quiet they both were there and how he’s now only citing his own money as the reason. I really don’t care who the guy works with, but don’t pretend it’s because you “support small streamers”.
>>1232931>is he dumb
This is only tinfoil but I can imagine Stump thinks he's legitimately big enough to get pay for promo outside of free clothes and that Killstar shooting him down prompted his new stance.
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-Insert obligatory tmi about her gross nipples
-Draws crosses on her face so decides to tattoo them on then put makeup over the new tattoo so people will wonder if it's a shitty tattoo or makeup
This bitch never thinks about her tattoos. She gets and does anything for attention. I can't wait for her to go away though that won't happen unless she gets a knarly infection from one of her badly maintained body mods and dies. Or unless wigs and hair dye become illegal, then she can't be speshul kek
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stop talking about your scooter kaya! you got it back! shut up!!!
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Unless you secretly buried grandpa in the backyard, those barrows don't contain your kinsmen. That's not how genetics or history work.
For someone who claims to love the past of ye olde albion, he has a child's understanding of it.
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Imagine just going about your business buying groceries and you see this.
Good thing she's not one of those trashy chavs.
“Dress up”?? It’s not even pyjamas or sweatpants, it’s a fucking gloomy bear kigurumi. I’d eyeroll into oblivion at the levels of attention seeking if I saw an almost 30 year old doing this. Might be a nitpick but she’s annoying lol. >>1235060
THIS. Her scooter is a chav stereotype in itself. No fucking wonder “chavs” stole it. I’m so sick of her seeing her use this word though, it’s petulant and autistic as fuck. The type of people I imagine she’s screeching about basically have the same attitude as her - pissing around, trying to have fun but annoying everyone around them, thinking the world revolves around them.
Not "dress up" but just put fucking outside clothes on.
But in case you're not familiar with UK stereotypes, as >>1235060
pointed out, chavs are often ridiculed for going to tesco's in their pj's. So seeing Kaya in a fucking onesie hovering in the candy isle, posing in front of stacked crates of beer is incredibly ironic for someone complaining about chavs.
Agree, real brows would help her bc she's too lazy to draw ones on. Her face is really plain and she doesn't have a chin. Like in >>1232156
if she wasn't wearing foundation I wouldn't know where her face started kek
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You got the fucking scooter back!
She was barely uploading even before she got her studio, and even when she was uploading it was lazy unboxings and shit. People only ever watched her because she seemed bubbly on camera, but now all she does is complain. She has an eternal victim
You're both right. She's a gluttonous sloth who complains and bitches every day. How does she still have fans willing to throw money at her ass when she's being this slothful? Are her fans really that braindead to not see how she's taking advantage of them???
You would think that she'd continue making her shit unboxing videos just to give her fans something to watch so they don't feel like they're wasting their money but she's not even doing that anymore. Then again, people are still throwing money at Freya and she's almost as inactive as Kaya.
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Imagine having a real job and using this as an excuse not to work
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So sad. Kaya's pinned tweet is her talking about her silver play button… six years ago.
She has nothing going on in her life.
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They had a phase of selling sims porn using the wikd sims mod, and sold it on thier metalassgaming patreon where im sure they werent checking the ages of who would see it (Pics of their fans were deffo preteens / young teens) Pic related
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Samefag to add I checked the youtube channel and their last video is from 2 years ago. It still has subscribers somehow but also comments like this.
Yeah John left and they abandoned it. Wonder what went on with him.
Plus wonder what happened to all the Kickstarter money too…
They had a Kickstarter as well? They are absolutely scammers. I wonder if it would be considered distasteful if someone like maybe an ex-fan of theirs made a video call out putting them on blast and making it know how much of a scam artist they mostly are.
I wonder if they could even be cancelled. I feel like in the current time it would more than likely be Kaya who got "cancelled" than Jake because as shitty as Jake is, he is still making content for his fans but Kaya…
John left before thet abandoned it though, they still went for like a year or two after he left. It was unwatchable without him.>>1236934
It wouldn't be distasteful at all. In fact I'm suprised no one has done that. Their fans seem to have a cultish mentality of not criticizing them whatsoever.
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Link to page https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1013222110/the-greatest-gaming-adventure-ever-told
They promised mugs, t shirts and all kinds to pledges but as far as I am aware nothing ever materialised.
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Reason #458585 for not recording…
People having the audacity to talk outside.
I can’t believe her fans are validating this. A normal level of paranoia after having something important to you stolen should be…fucking locking it up better. Not parking it in stupid places. Not being TRIGGERED
everytime you hear “chavvy voices”?? She never should have chased after them in the first place. Sage for autism but she’s such a fucking mess.
Yeah it's pretty repulsively classist, not sure why her followers don't pull her up on it.
I also don't think it helps goths to make this dichotomy between working class people and alternative culture, many goths are working class too and socialise with people Kaya would label as "chav", she lives the "dole scum" life herself playing video games all day and not working so I don't know why she thinks she's any better. Ultimately she's just being a snob.
said, it is absolutely classist. Her being worried about "chav voices" is a pretty clear indication that she judges people by their accent, considering them a potential threat if they don't sound posh enough.
Pretty messed up.
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God, does she ever stop whining? And how is a whole ass house "too small" for just her and Jake? I know a couple with 2 kids that live in a 1 bed flat for Christ's sake
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I couldn't find the pin, it's buried in his "normie phase" YouTube videos somewhere if he hasn't deleted those, but there are cases and t shirts. It's such a transparent money grab but I bet people bought it.
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Her chest didn't look that large to me. But maybe it's the way she dresses.
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Her breasts don't look large because they aren't large. Probably gearing up to become a they/them
Two people in a two bedroom house with attic, private garden and storage area. These people are sociopaths.
More recent hypocrisy on Twitter (inb4 this is an imageboard, take my word for it or go see for yourselves):
Manlet wishes all goths, including “whether you’re a trad goth or baby bat at the mall” a Happy Goth Day, despite being a whingey gatekeeping cunt for years, probably because he’s no longer jaded about how unpopular he is. The moneygrabbing is strong in this one.
Manlet and Manbeast also complain about screaming kids at restaurants - which is fair enough - but a bunch of their fans with kids validate them in the comments to the point where it’s disturbing. “As a parent I’m SO SORRY! Fuck those other parents who don’t control their kids!”
No, actually, maybe you should be able to go places once in a while even with a toddler and these two grown ass 30 year olds can just accept that the world is not their own personal little Sims game.
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They're not huge by any means but they're not small either. Bigger breasts can appear smaller because of sagging or being positioned lower on the chest. She seems to wear sports bras/bralettes all the time so they look smaller than they are.
She's pretty tall too so they look smaller. Big boobs can cause serious back problems and are generally a pain so good for her
sage for wk
I thought Chavs was just European slang for Street/Hood people? I didn't know it meant working class people. If that's the case, wow fuck her because you're right, Alternative people are also working class people either. Just because her fat ass is privileged in scamming gullible people to throw money at her doesn't make her better than those who have to work for a living. >>1237489>Goff-Teenager-ew-chavs phase
Fixed it for ya lol nothing goth about this chick, she's pretty much Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way with her Goffness. >>1237608
I'm dead lol
Honestly anon, let it happen. This girl needs to have that rock bottom phase. She's not gonna listen to advice, why would she when her fans keep throwing money at her no matter how much of a gluttonous layabout she's been for the last few years now. She's been fully enabled and there's no helping this girl until reality does hit her like a freight train.>>1237671
I vaguely remember that. Didn't she last like only a day or two at the job? >>1237776
I think you mean "whingey poser" He can't be a gatekeeper of Goth since he's not nor has he ever been one to begin with. Anyway I can believe this. Their fans are truly something. These two just cannot contain their narcissism.
Kek, good find Anon. I can imagine being one of the underpaid retail workers absolutely done with her bs.
Also, having worked in retail for years in a store that had marble type tiles that were weirdly harsh to stand on, moreso than other types of tile (WEIRD fucking autistic blogpost I know, just saying I “get” it) - nothing was wrong with her feet. Ever. Get some goddamn insoles and/or decent shoes. Standing for six hours her platforms or whatever shitty pumps will hurt your feet. How is she this stupid. Something’s medically wrong with me!! But I just cba to fix it!
Exactly, she’s had two real jobs, and tbh both of them were kind of crappy. Retail sucks and call centers SUCK. Especially for someone with anxiety or whatever she had that week. I get it, whatever. She was popular enough at the time that being a YouTuber could have maaaaybe been possible.
But to then not have a job for the rest of her fucking life? Even after her YouTube died? And then complain mercilessly about it? She hasn’t made new merch or a new type of video or anything for years. Noone’s forcing her to go back to a call center, she could get some content creation job or something, idk. At this point she’s full on retarded.
Samefag. You’re completely wrong, sorry. You’re maybe thinking of slav? In the UK chav always refers to a certain type of stereotypical person who’s on benefits, wears a sweatsuit, and is violent/a binge drinker/junkie/antisocial. Especially teenagers. Except like 99% of the time posh twats use it to refer to anybody who isn’t middle class. There is a “type” of teenager who’ll be annoying and maybe shout at freaks like Kaya in the street, drink and smoke underage, that kind of thing. But a lot of these people’s problems literally come from having no money for generation. There was a big woke movement literally years ago at this point to stop using the word chav because it’s so anti-working class (not everyone who’s working class or who lives in social housing is a chav but they WILL get called it and its a genuine stereotype and problem). If you’re pissed off about your scooter being stolen you could use literally any other generic word, asshole etc.
Tl;dr Kaya is a grown ass woman who dresses like the villain in a shitty kid’s movie and can’t ignore some minors occasionally calling her names without being a stuck up twat about it.
>>1238158> Exactly, she’s had two real jobs, and tbh both of them were kind of crappy. Retail sucks and call centers SUCK. Especially for someone with anxiety or whatever she had that week. I get it, whatever. She was popular enough at the time that being a YouTuber could have maaaaybe been possible.
I mean, I get it too. I work retail/customer service and it can be challenging at times as I'm someone with lots of anxiety as well. If Kaya truly just couldn't adapt, fine I get it as well and like you said, she had the popularity to be able to quit and go full-time.
But that's the thing. The bitch hasn't done shit for a good while now and that's what a lot of us find unacceptable and infuriating, especially with how much she whines and complains these days. She has the easiest "job" i nthe world. Just upload a video once every other week or hell, even a month. It's just the fact that she doesn't do anything. She's squandering a great opportunity to be creative and turn that creativity into a profit to help keep herself going. I'm probably projecting because I'm a creative type and would kill to be able to do that full time so to see her wasting away her years being a bum is just mind-boggling. >>1238168
Thanks for the info anon. That makes al ot more sense. Overall though,it's just Kaya being a whiny drama queen. She doesn't have to leave her house all that much so she can put up with the occasional rude kid for like a few seconds.
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Sage for off topic, but kayas friend in this, peachmilky she used to hang out with now and then in belfast is now doing 2d vtuber foot fetish stuff while living in japan. Huh. Maybe kaya missed out, someone said in an old thread she and jake used to pimp her feet out to a foot fetish guy when they were squatting LOL.
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Speaking of Kaya's feet…
Spa huh? Must be nice.
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And Mara is a butthurt hypocrite again… By this point she is the one keeping the topic alive
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It's just a trend to draw unrigged legs for your model. Some people draw them normally, some people draw them for fetishbaiting: picrel is nyanners actual thumbnail.
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Honestly she probably didn't didn't film anything, usually she would have posted pics of her 'look' by now
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And what type of scruff digs up plants from the street and then leaves them in their house for 6 months without even noticing they're there?
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Mr Owl can't change a tire kek
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Imagine going through the effort of picking out an outfit, adding jewelery and accessories …only to scrape your greasy hair back on your head to top it all off. Wtf is actually wrong with her.
She looks depressed.
Also how is jake affording all the bikes etc? Is it stream donations?
Someone mentioned that he gets stuff on finance but how when he can't prove a steady income?
Plus he just got that car as well.
Splashing out on tattoos too.
Kaya Caption Bingo: boring-ass blogpost, “I want”, brag, complaint. Full house!
At this point honestly I hope she gets hit by a truck.
>>1240056> Can’t post pics sorry
God it’s not worth looking, I don’t recommend anybody who drives in the UK to even scroll past Jake’s “motovlog” (cringe) clips LOL. “Let’s smoke this guy, yeahhh baby I’m taking you” - you overtook a car going the speed limit on a random British commuter road, Jacob. They’re not exactly looking at you and thinking wow, Tokyo Drift.
Kaya’s chav problem is ironic considering that her boyfriend does literally drive like a stereotypical car chav.
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You missed an important part of that post Anon.
>I want to drive a motorcycle. But, like, not really…
its her inability to do anything without first complaning that really bothers me. her twitter is just non stop whining/wanting material posessions
does she have nothing of genuine value in her life?
Lol calm down? It is technically illegal to pick wildflowers in the UK. Probably not weeds. Anon’s just nitpicking but aren’t we fucking all. >>1240473
Laughing to keep from crying. “Teehee let me just drop half of most people my age’s salary on an additional luxury I’m not really fussed about.” Ugh. She can do whatever the fuck she wants with Manlet’s money but she’s such a spoiled brat. Literally any other influencer or content creator would see the opportunity to take a nice pic on a nice bike and tease the fact they might get one. She just posts as if she’s talking to friends except so obnoxiously it’s obvious why she doesn’t have any friends. >>1240165
It’s been said before but (on top of ad revenue, patreon and merch) Jake’s fans donate SCARY amounts of money every stream. It’s kind of heartbreaking actually, they’re mostly kids and fat autists who don’t remember how nasty he used to be.
To be fair, he’s unbearable and an up himself twat, BUT, compared to Kaya, he’s doing stuff that makes sense in the state that YouTube’s in. He does trending videos, interacts with followers, actively streams, and seems like he regularly upgrades his kit. And he reaps the benefits of it. This is NOT a wk, the boy needs a serious reality check and an ego death at the same time, and none of the shit he splurges on seems to stick (he bought a 360 headcam but we haven’t seen the drone in a while). But he’s basically a normal milky YouTuber now rather than the total sadsack he used to be.
Meanwhile Kaya can’t remember to pack a fucking memory card for what I’m assuming is the same crusty camera she’s been using since 2010. Bearing in mind she has her own separate gaming/streaming rig in addition to a laptop and phone and now a STUDIO and still refuses to work.
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The pure audacity of this bitch
Imagine whining about an almost stolen scooter for a month straight, then when you get a 10k bike say you want the ~black DCT version~.
Poor girl, her misfortune just never ends does it?
Thanks for the summary Anon. I guess it's god that she's not trying to get back to Scotland anymore. How much money is she wasting on the flat that all her stuff over there is in? Or is it in storage? That can't be cheap either.
I honestly don't know if it would be worth it to ship all that tacky shit to NZ. Maybe if they were priceless antiques or something. But it's just new furniture with skulls on. Cut your losses girl.
You're right on the mark about her laziness. The thing is, Freya doesn't even need to get a 'traditional job' to make more money. If she was on top of her social media and stuck to a consistent upload schedule on YouTube, she would make decent money from a combination of AdSense and sponsors. On top of that, when she is active online she gets the alt fashion brands sending her huge amounts of clothing and lifestyle items; she could wear these items once or twice for content (videos/photoshoots/events/etc.) and go on to sell them on Poshmark or a similar site/app.
Does anyone happen to know how things are going with her fiance? Perhaps things are going south and that's contributing to her anxiety and lack of productivity.
KEK. I have ADHD and fucking struggle driving stick, it takes up a ton of mental energy. But you bet your fucking ass that I’d learn if I was lucky enough to have to option to buy a 10k vanity vehicle. Automatic gearshift is not the norm in the UK by FAR yet so she’s just been lazy (so surprising) and chosen to get driving lessons in an Automatic car.
Sage for blogpost.
Yeah she wants to move to Scotland sometime in the future but she also mentioned that she possibly wants to try living in Germany again as well(this girl…). She didn't really disclose how much she was spending on her flat in Scotland (she said "flat", not "storage" but she admitted that it was "draining" her savings so it must be a good amount that she's wasting on it. I agree with you though that at this point, it might be too expensive to ship all that stuff back to NZ.
Also I forgot to add one more important thing in case you didn't watch the video. She says that Mr. Owl bought a house and that's where they're currently living now and it's why she feels like it's now the right time to come back to YouTube since she has a room for filming. But the thing that really aggravates me is how Mr. Owl doesn't seem to realize what a leech she is being. Like you just know Mr. Owl is the one mainly supporting her but just watch, she will leave him in a heartbeat if she's able to sucker another man to marry her with the promise of a marriage visa in either Germany or Scotland which could possibly happen what with the world on it's path back to normalcy after dealing with the pandemic. I dunno, I know Mr. Owl is being a doofus but I can't help but feel bad for him still.
IKR? Aside from Angela Benedict, it seems all these Goth and GOFF YouTubers are allergic to ordinary work and I get it, it can be tough working with the public but as I mentioned in a few posts above this is where one can be creative and try running an online shop or you know, just doing SOMETHING productive to help generate some income. And in Freya's case, >>1241520
is right that she doesn't need a regular job because she could easily continue making a few videos every so often as well as selling the clothes she doesn't wear anymore on sites like Poshmark or Depop but she's just too lazy. And I get she's depressed but come on now, that's no excuse to laze about for months to years on end.
> Does anyone happen to know how things are going with her fiance?
In the video, she didn't allude to any problems between her and Mr. Owl aside from wanting to save up and move to Germany (or Scotland) and like I mentioned to someone else, he bought a house which is where the two are currently staying. I don't follow her on social media though so who knows if something is happening behind the scenes.
I don't even understand how these people have this amount of money to begin with… Even if you DO work is hard not to live paycheck to paycheck, how come these people seem to have endless money to be paying for extra apartments in another continent or an useless studio like Kaya?
It seems that these people are super fortunate and 100% have all the conditions to get better from the obvious serious mental health problems that are fucking their lives up. I wish I had the chance of not working for so long with that much extra money
Well for IBF, it's clear that she wasn't really supporting herself. Before she moved to Germany, Mr. Owl was the one who was supporting her. He went to school and had a job plus I'm sure they were getting help from their parents as well. Then when she moved to Germany to be with Matthias, Matthias was the one who was going to school and holding down a job though I think Freya may have been making decent income from her video ad sense and patreon supporters. But then when the sham marriage blew up and she went back to Mr. Owl, he's the breadwinner again since he now has a good job.
With Kaya and Jake, more than sure they get help from Kaya's parents. If I remember correctly, Kaya's parents are pretty well off so I don't think it's farfetched to believe that they do get help from them when they're running low on money from spending it on useless crap.
Dorian lives with her mother and step father and it's clear that they support her.
So in conclusion, they just happen to have people who are willing to take care of them I guess.
Nah, I don't doubt that she's depressed - she's been very productive before (with her videos) and she speaks about a lot of guilt i/r/t letting pple contact her for collabs going unresponded, letting relationships go cold, etc. I think perhaps it could even be her ambition/dream of the ideal life that is depressing her. Youtuber's mental health always seem to take a dive for the worse, when they make it their full time job, and their content enmeshed with blogging/personal life. She really needs a reality/expectation re-adjustment on life. It kills me that she pays for a SECOND FLAT in Scotland, but refuses to let her mom pay for therapy because it's to expensive. And the way she talks about Scotland/Germany, you can here she hasn't given up on the idea yet, even though she tried moving abroad TWICE and both were abject failures. Surprise surprise, Scotland made her depression worse so she couldn't execute all the 'fun video ideas' she had for the location. She should realize by know that the problem isn't with New Zealand. She even admits she's gotten happier in the new house, but still dreams of moving away, just because there isn't a goth scene, or her great grandma came from Scotland or some other bullshit excuse. Sigh. She needs proper therapy, not just meds, because otherwise she'd just repeat the same mistakes/patterns of behavior the moment her moods stabilizes/she has enough energy to try to move abroad again, spiralling her downwards, and on it goes.
Remember not that long ago Jake and Kaya were on the dole (unemployment benefits) and then worked crappy minimum wage jobs for about 5 minutes (nothing has made Jake sound more up his ass and entitled than the time he told the story for being fired for literally being violent and angry in front of a manager “because I just hate authority maaaan” and has never shown any kind of introspection that that’s a stupid fucking way to behave).
Jake’s family probably aren’t on the fucking breadline like he makes it seem but I don’t doubt that they’re maybe in a low income bracket. Plus would you send money to your kid if he literally wrote a song about murdering you, jfc? Similarly I don’t get the idea that Kaya’s parents are super well off but they did have Steiner’s money and both have fairly decent sized looking houses from the brief clips in her videos so she can definitely fall back on them, for example when her and Jake lived with her dad.
Tl;dr - I don’t think either of their parents pay for all their shit or are rich enough to fund stuff like the vehicles but they did get a comfy start in life, milked the benefits system for all it was worth, e-begged relentlessly and almost definitely used credit a lot before Jake started earning decent money.
Even before now, think about how much crap Kaya’s fans bought for her and how often she was emailing companies to give her stuff. The ONLY reason she kept saying she didn’t have money a couple of years ago is because she was spending it at a fucking relentless rate. “Oh I really don’t have money for a new camera right now!!” she says literally sitting on a pile of plastic crap from her latest eight Primark hauls.
>>1242079>Remember not that long ago Jake and Kaya were on the dole (unemployment benefits) and then worked crappy minimum wage jobs for about 5 minutes (nothing has made Jake sound more up his ass and entitled than the time he told the story for being fired for literally being violent and angry in front of a manager “because I just hate authority maaaan” and has never shown any kind of introspection that that’s a stupid fucking way to behave).
Admittedly I didn't know too much about Jake because I found him insufferable but I didn't know that story about why he was fired, that is beyond cringe kek. But my comment on them getting financial help from parents, I was mostly referring to Kaya's parents and I was thinking that she'd only get help from her parents if they were running particularly low on money after splurging.
But after reading your explanation, I think you're analysis is right. I almost forgot about ridiculous their fan-base are when it comes to giving them money like when that one fan of theirs donated 1,000 dollars to them on a stream.
Oh definitely not trying to prove you wrong Anon, the milk’s pretty dry so I’m down to read sage. >>1242079
was basically my tinfoil!
And yeah, re: Jake’s old videos being annoying, my advice to anyone thinking of watching them to learn his story or whatever is: don’t, your brain cells will die.
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Kaya if you bothered to wash your hair and take a shower you might have companies that want to work with you lol
Look at him desperately trying to suck in his gut.
What is it with this dude looking like a scaled up midget?
damn, spot on.
In the exact spirit of this comment - I just realised how hilarious she’s gonna look with L plates on that giant “goff” chopper bike.
Let's be real, she'd be too lazy for that.>>1242955>>1242731
Except Kaya has always said that it's because she's alternative that brands wont work with her. Which is definitely a load of crap.
If it isn't Kaya doing it then wtf is she actually doing?
Imagine paying someone to run errands for you when your partner is literally sitting on their ass all day doing nothing.
I agree with you tenfold. She's really trying to weasel out of responsibility for duping her fanbase and taking advantage of their generosity. She's lucky her fanbase is so willing to be taken advantage of to support her ass for as long as they have with the bouts of inactivity she's done.
Also I think most of the videos she's gonna be doing are fashion hauls. In the video she says that she has a ton of sponsor emails that went unanswered and that she wants to get back to them but ultimately you're right that she really didn't make that much worthwhile content in a long while. She also made note that she wants to travel again but I don't see that happening for awhile because she doesn't have the money to do that. >>1242555
Exactly. She's so fucking dramatic about how badly she wants to leave NZ because there is no Goth festivals but it's stupid. When she was in Germany, she didn't know how to speak the damn language to even integrate in German society. Sure she'd be better of in Scotland from a language perspective but I doubt her life will change much. I think the reason she feels so empty is because her life has no structure, she doesn't do anything so of course she's feeling hopeless.
When I met her in Leipzig she told me she didn’t speak any German. She had been living there for like 2 years. I had to go ask someone if she could use their hairspray, even though basically every German speaks fucking English.
In Berlin they even offer free language courses (idk if it’s just for EU citizens). And Berlin is like a two hour bus ride from Leipzig for €8
No. They have yhem in Leipzig too. And they're free for everyone eligible for german citizenship or a longterm visa.
In order to stay in Germany past 3 years she would have to pass a language test. As such, the government is required to make language courses available to any prospective new citizen.
I love how they're trying to act all cutesy while being white supremacists
fr though, of all the things you could aspire to be in life he aspired to be a cheap knockoff varg and didn't even succeed at that
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Something to keep in mind next time Ruadhan starts ebegging
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Karen's at it again… In a Facebook goth group.
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So Kaya made a 22 minute video about why she's been gone so long.
Because she's been "sad" and her scooter was stolen.
Can you believe a company has sponsored this crap?!
That woman must be scanning Facebook alt pages/groups every morning for mentions of her precious daughter. If it was my mom, I'd be mortified.
I'm not one to victim
blame, but I don't buy this rhetoric. Froyo used Matthias for a visa after all, so we know it's not as clear-cut as Karen says it is. That being said, if any of this is true, the guy IS a scumbag.
(saged for no new milk)
it was discussed in a previous thread but there's rumors that she cheated on him before he cheated on her, I never heard about the stuff about him having anger issues or being a gas lighter and a control freak though. but being as we all know karen is batshit insane I would not take her word for it, she's probably exaggerating at best.
also,>his nickname is… The Space Peacock
I figured. Just wasn't sure. How fucking lazy do you have to be to not even download duolingo or ask your husband to help you learn his native language? Like, even the basics. Look at all the webs who cant speak Japanese for shit, but still move to Japan. They try harder than her kek>>1245343>>1245447
Yeah, I know Matthias and he likes to flirt with skinny goth women
and party. I call bullshit on him being abusive
Samefag, tried to warch, gave up after 30 seconds. It actually stopped being funny and just being sad. Partly because she talks about her bad luck but doesn’t realise how gd lucky she is to be living in a home, with a garden, and a stable income (Covid sucks, Brexit sucks. Those things are out of her control and are hard to deal with. But it’s been a full year since the Barcelona drama). Partly because she doesn’t realise that her consistent misfortune and unhappiness has absolutely nothing to do with bad luck and everything to do with the fact that she refuses to manage her own depression and ADHD.
The scooter thing was bound to happen, sorry. It’s one of the most popular things to steal in the UK and we’re basically in a recession. Not saying it was her FAULT but I’d be locking that thing up like HELL and getting solid insurance. It’s a shame her weird pet swan died, but at the end of the day, it was a wild animal in a public park. You can be sad about it and then move on. Her complaints about not being able to move are insane, because those idiots need three bedrooms max - one to sleep, one for Kaya to film in, and one for Jake to stream, and that’s being generous. She has an entire fucking studio with a private bathroom JUST for hobbies and exercise. For one person.
She does nothing to actually dedicate herself to self-improvement, no counselling, no consistent exercise or being outside, everything has to be aesthetic. If “chavs” (disgusting how many people in the comments were ‘rolfmaoing’ at her using that term relentlessly) shout at you everytime you go outside at that makes you anxious, tone down your look. If you’re bored of your local walks, plan trips with Jake. Stick to your fucking ADHD meds. Declutter your house. And for fuck’s sake go to counselling so you can stop talking about yourself to your little echo chamber of enablers and mistaking that for therapy.
Sage for total autism. Nothing she says feels like milk because it is genuinely just tragic at this point.
so according to Kaya…her scooter was literally parked in the alley behind her house. She saw some lads out there. Went down, and her scooter was gone. She literally ran up the street, they bolted, and she got it back.
idk about you guys…stressful, but barely qualifies as stolen. It was out of her possession for like, an hour tops. she says she sprinted after them screaming, which is fucking hilarious, and is still mad to this day that she didn’t “get her hands on them”. which is even more hilarious, because three so-called chavs would kick the living shit out of her if she tried it.
Saged for blogposting, but everybody and anybody who is a goth living in Germany (or someone who's into the dark alternative scene at all, let's put it that way) knows Matthias. And not in a good way. It has always rubbed me the wrong way the way he was hailed as Freyja's "sexy German boyfriend" when in reality he's a mediocre looking dimwit whose only remarkable quality is his style and the way he presents himself.
He's recently been posting about how he considers himself a follower of the MGTOW-movement and how pride month is stupid, how he's "heterosexual and proud", and now he's back to selling childrens-level greyscale art and "custom dark wave dolls" (modified Barbie dolls), not to mention his rancid OnlyFans. I can smell him through the screen.
If you've never partied in Germany and interacted with him, let me tell you - he's the definition of a horny old dude. He's not even into "alternative women" AT ALL. I guess he doesn't like the black-and-white clown look on women he wants to bang, because all he ever dates and interacts positively with are rail thin young women with big breasts, IG models who don't belong to ANY "dark" or "alternative" subculture, or haggard old women who comment hearts under his IG posts. Not a good look at all.
Can confirm Anon. I have also met this spudfaced loser. I have no idea about the abuse accusations Karen made. But everything you mentioned is spot on. He liked to go after mainstream girls who are into tge semi-taboo of dating an "edgy goth guy." He'll take them to gothclubs, where tgey cling to him, feeling very transgressive. The patrons ignore him until he inevitably gets drunk and starts inserting himself in other people's conversation. It's true that a lot of people know him, because he goes to a lot of events and is pretty noticable. But very few people actually like him.
He is also weirdly homophobic. Constantly pointing out that he wears like, eyeliner and stuff, but is DEFINITELY into pussy
Nobody ever asks.
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It makes me sad when I see the kind of people who are funding their ridiculous lifestyles.
… No thanks lol Seems he's doing well for himself I guess.>>1246310
This poor deluded woman. Stop wasting your money on these parasites and use the money for something that'll help you and your family. The one where she said she couldn't pay her rent, that was both sad and frustrating to read. Just EUGH. Why are people this stupid? I'm not saying that people can't support their favorite creators by why on these two lecherous clowns????
If you want evidense of Mattias being an annoying drunk, check out his hilarious "prank."
Please note that feeding people very spicy things without their consent can be bad news for someone who has stomach issues, heart issues, or is prone to migraines.
said, she loves the engagement it gets her. But she's also relapsed, so she probably has E.D on the brain.
Agreed. My friends who are on benefits are some of the most generous I know when it comes to paying creators/donating to charity (in their state of mind/attitude, not that they piss away all their state attitude). Plus it’s their money, do what you want with it tbh, much worse things are happening with taxpayer money. But they’re still not shelling away their minimal income on any youtuber whose videos and streams you can watch for free as soon as it comes in. This is bullshit.
Jake has definitely DELIBERATELY created a fan culture where sending in money makes you feel included and part of something (#breakthejake is so fake and horrible on his part) and all these poor sadsacks are falling for it.
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Tweets about wantkng to get in shape.
Eating McDonald's 2 hours later.
Nitpick but this girl is so unaware it's hilarious.
She gives the best ed advice ngl, as someone on the edge of having an ed I love watching her videos
I don't get why she keeps milking it out when she knows people like me and people with actual ed's watch it. She's romanticizing the fuck out of it and pro ana forums
Agreed anon. I'm not necessarily bothered if some of these people spend their money on this kinda stuff. I just think they need to be responsible and take care of themselves first, then use any leftover for the other stuff. I'd say not to support Jake the stump or Toxic
Tears because they are social parasites who don't deserve the charity but that's just me/us (since I think most of us here can agree these two jackasses don't need it).>>1247625
Yeah she can be hilarious. I remember a few years back when she actually was working out (and still eating junk a lot), she posted a picture of her at some ice cream shop with 2 large ice cream sundaes RIGHT AFTER A WORKOUT. It was fucking hilarious.
Lmao it’s the fact that this has been her for the past what, 6 years?? And she thinks the “haterz” are saying she can’t have treats or cheat days but actually we just recognize that she obviously ONLY has phases of eating ridiculously elaborate, not sustainable health foods before going back to grazing on crap.
Also she hasn’t been outside since 2001. Good luck with that fucking arcade dance machine though.
I mean to be fair she probably did get some exercise running after those dirty nasty chavs who stole her scooter. probably the first time in years though
also don't you love how the term "chav" is meant to demonise the working class but kaya and jake don't even work, just leech off of people? the irony
True. Even moreso, idk if non-Brits will get this, but Kaya said she passed her CBT (basic training), which is the absolute minimum qualification that lets you legally ride a moped. She doesn’t have any kind of license, and from the sounds of her last video, never intended to - she was really looking to do the bare minimum as per. Just because this is legal doesn’t mean it’s advisable or safe.
The reason I bring it up is that people who do their CBT and only their CBT are literally children and, more often than not, “chavs”. Like if you take takeaway drivers etc out of it, it’s SUCH a known chav stereotype to have teenagers getting a moped because it’s something they can tear about on without getting a license.
They fill so many chav stereotypes. Like even just being antisocial/a nuisance. All the time. SO many people in the background of Jake’s videos look visibly pissed to be on camera and he’s admitted to filming in restaurants and shit because he’s “getting better service”. Literally if this prick was talking into a camera while I was trying to serve him it’d annoy me 10x than him just being drunk and rowdy.
Sage for autism but tldr Jake and Kaya are “chav” stereotypes to a fucking T and always have been, they just don’t THINK they are because they don’t wear trackies or drink tins of lager. You’re so right anon.
This is exactly what I was thinking.>>1197680
Most of these men are in Ireland:https://m.facebook.com/search/people/?q=ruadh%C3%A1n&source=filter&isTrending=0&tsid=0.30226012032783145&soft=search
You sound like a white American kid who thinks nobody is named Devonte just because you never met any>>1200145
If it was a legal name change then that's what she's named?>>1244953
How long ago was the last ime he did that? Just looks like you complaining bout nothing(imageboard)
This ain't milk. This is a tax return splurge. That he'd been hoping to do for a year
Ruadhan feeding himself and three cats plus his rent (did u see the full Insta post? That harp was only $650 — and that is supposedly MORE than what his rent is) — all that is probly cheaper than all the gov assist money that Fake Mundane stans who're literal moms on the dole send to him to waste on motorbikes. Little Red using his tax rebate however he likes ain't milk>>1197673>>1197679
IYSS. He likes the mug. He dais it ain't practical, but he said he likes it anyway
Shower thoughts on Instagram ain't milk u spergs
And don't Red always that's the name his parents were gonna use if he was AMAB? Y'all really be desperate to be pissed off by nothing>>1197680
He doesn't conflate anything, Celtard. He speaks Welsh cos his mum's parents were Cornish, and he couldn't learn Cornish after they passed away, but Welsh is similar and he had access to learn that language? Maybe it's convoluted, but boy knows what he's doing and if he says he wasn't able to learn Cornish 30+yrs ago, but that he figured out Welsh was a similar enough language he COULD lean, it at least makes sense https://youtu.be/RHDXb5_097E
Srsly, y'all sound like a bunch understimulated re-re's who had too many juice boxes
And cos search results anyone can do is a 'dick move' how bout look up Sinn Féin, cos I guess Celtard can't be bothered with Ie. politics. They've had a Dublin guy named Ruadhán Mac Aodháin for about 15yrs, and their party pres from 1970-83 was the late Ruairí Ó Brádaigh (but he had it legally changed in the Anglicised/Colonised form, Peter Rory Brady, so I guess ye think tHaT's NoT hIs ReAl NaMe!!) - yeh, Ruairí isn't Ruadhán, but they're both from the word for Red, so maybe keep using the langue after you finish school, unlike maybe 80% of post-Indepence Ireland?
You're pulling some Demi Lovato tier sperging — taking some random thing, not getting any more info that might show context, then going off and taking a personal attack over something a normal person wouldn't care about, cos normal people figure there's a few reasons a boy might be saying something about both Ireland AND Wales that don't mean he conflates the 2 nations
Knowing about both sides of his family (I guess?) and speaking anothet language bside English, and learning it AFTER doing his research? THAT'S what's got you going full Ass Pie?
You do you, IG, but that shit ain't even soymilk. Your just whingeing about it cos nothings going down with anyone, and you don't like the weird gayboy >>1197801
know more about it then you apparently think he does. It's ironic that you're complaining about things that didn't happen cos you couldn't be bothered to look through the weird gayboy's videos and such to see if you missed something. This is Demi Lovato tier complaints you got here — you just going off cause you can't imagine any situation besides "DiEt CuLtUrE vUlTuReS" why a sugar-free cookie exists. Em, I mean, you can't imagine why a boy might have an Irish name but speak Welsh, except if that reason is "lolol stoopit Seppo!"
Making up thinks to be pissy about ain't milk
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I don't understand this.
They have a 3 bedroom house,Jake has a home studio and an attic studio plus Kaya's disused studio and a car to get equipment there and he has no room to film/stream?
Plus don't Munro have a practice studio too?
……Yeeeikes. This man is in his 30s and his fans are offering to buy him a house.
This seems like he really hates Kaya.
v true, my partner had a moped at like 17-19 because they needed a way to get to work and didn't have the money for a car. The only people who ride mopeds over the age of 22 in the UK are delivery drivers or people who own fancy vintage mopeds
And its funny you say about the chav stereotype because ive been seeing a lot of like "alt chavs" recently: alt peopl who act like chavs but think theyre better than everyone because they're a special unique snowflake(No1curr)
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Plenty to unpack here
wut? so the guys who attempted to steal her scooter also stole her memory card and shoes? why would they….?? or are these convenient excuses? "cant film, no memory card. those chavs stole it!!" "cant go outside, no shoes. those chavs stole them!!" lulz
>unless you're just REALLY into feet or whatever
says the woman who pimped herself out to foot fetishists, letting them sniff her stinky sweaty feet and shoes for cash lmfao
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i mean…all the hair growth tips in the world can't counteract the fact that you go through new fry-and-dye cycles every couple weeks
i was looking back at some of the old modeling work and outfit photos that i'd reblogged from her old tumblr eons ago and it was so consistently good. she seemed to have a lot of talent and creative energy. makes me sad to see her so boring these days. i totally get that people change but she seems to still be quarterheartedly trying to occupy the same space she did and get the same engagement she did when she had consistent and quality output
The most consistent hair growth tips seem to be "don't fuck with your hair too much." So…
Agreed Anon. I wonder what caused her shift into irrelevance. Burnout? Or just trying too hard. She's really trying to ride the current cottagecoretrend and it's sad.
This to the nth degree. I totally forgot that the reason they moved out of their first house was because it was too small and okay fair enough, they were still making videos and probably needed more space. Fine. But they get this 3 bedroom house with an attic, garage, and a garden as you say and they have the gall, the nerve to bitch and moan about this house being "tOo sMaLl"
Here's a tip you walking dumpsters, GET RID of the shit you don't use anymore. I'm getting flashbacks to when Kaya even admitted that one day when she was cleaning up, she opened her closet and got buried under a mountain of clothes and found it difficult to get out of it. You just know that they have a ton of shit that they don't use anymore and could just sell off or donate to make the space (and extra money). I swear, they really should be on the show Hoarders at this point.
But their dumb ass fans keep enabling this behavior. Let's say their fans start a GoFundMe for them to get a bigger house and by some chance in hell, it actually is successful. Who's to say these two idiots wouldn't turn the likely 4-5 bedroom house into a landfill like the house they're in right now?
I just cannot fathom the stupidity around these two and their fanbase. They're acting like little kids and it's not cute.
Yeah I got confused here. Why would they steal her shoes and memory card? Or did she leave them in the scooter? Like can she stop? lmao.
Need a memory card? BUY ONE. She has the money. Go to the store and buy a replacement. Shoes? BITCH you have a ton of shoes, stop complaining.
…..they've been living in this house for how long, 4 years? And it only just now became "too small"? And they also have an attic and an extra studio? I seriously can't fucking believe these two.
Probably gonna get banned for blogposting but i live in a 2 bedroom house with 3 people, stumpy and the toxic
giant can get fucked.
Apparently the memory card was in a camera that she left in the scooter box over night with the shoes. What kind of dumb idiot leaves valuables like that outside.
Now she's complaining the camera camera have had Victoria's last day on. If it was so precious why tbe fuck leave it outside?
Sorry, anon. I'm acquainted with one of his exes. I never asked about Frejya.>>1250229
I hate these fat retards. Didn't Jake want to move to LA at some point? Yeah good luck getting anything decently sized there or Barcelona.
He really thinks he's famous, huh? Sorry Stump, but people in the scene have no fucking clue who you are and only remember Kaya from when she was skinny.
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This made me lol! shes been going on about it so much
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Kids, this is why you need to think responsibly and not just say "I want a black cat for my instagram" before you own a place. EVERYONE knows its super hard to rent with pets, thats why its better to wait until you own your own home. but of course they only think about instant gratification not about real life responsibilities
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tons of shillstar shit, and this is only jake, kaya must have a lot more
If you own too much stuff for your living space, get a storage unit.
Why is that so hard for him to grasp?
Can’t find a bigger/better/pet friendly rental in your budget? Free up space in your current rental by using storage.
What a melodramatic, useless dipshit!
Or just put some of their crap in Kaya's 'studio'.
Not like she uses it!
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Why has she bought this?!
I can understand if you just want a phone that is for making or receiving phone calls.
But as an 'influencer' especially?
Crappy photo quality? Don't even think it has Internet access?
Is she going to walk around with two phones now just for the 'aesthetic'?
Is it nitpicky though?
She needs a decent phone to make content as an influencer.
She's not going to ditch her iPhone to carry this around so why buy it and connect it?
What's the point in having 2 phones unless it's for work purposes or She's a drug dealer?
Who is she going to give the number to?
I think she's more upset about the memory card not because it's hard to replace but more because it had footage on it like her last footage of Victoria (which makes it even more stupid that she left it outside on her scooter). >>1251966
Did she connect it though or is it just a trinket? Either way it's stupid but people collect pointless trinkets all the time for nostalgia. A phone is at least small and easy to store away, not like her musty hoard piles of killstar clothing and god only knows how much makeup.
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What the actual fuck Mara.
Do… do you know what cultural appropriation is?(this isn't tumblr)
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Um, Shiva the Hindu god?
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I wonder if her sponsors like the likes of Spooky Box Club get annoyed when they see shit like this.
She is so lazy she ends up shooting triple unboxing videos but then has the time to stick gems on a phone she will never use.
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what is going ooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
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Hinduism. There are 1.6 billion of us.
Lmao this isn't cultural appropriation when there are tons of mythic beings with more than 2 eyes and 2 arms. (Inb4 "ok whitey" I'm a POC
.) The real crime here is that God awful photoshop
Uhhuh. And they all use this very specific iconography.
I think some pathetic 'snacc' paid £50 for one of his merch shirts that he'd worn.
I'm honestly surprised he hasn't started an OnlyFans yet
You can just call them Alternative hippy people, nothing goth about what they do lol. But >>1252860
is kinda right, a lot of them do seem to be Alt-Right but the Splenda version.
>>1253074>a chance to own a piece of him
Ew did he really say it like that?? kek>>1253168
Hard to say anon. Part of me feels like she wouldn't care after seeing how they were when they visited Kelly Eden and Jake was flirting with her which Kaya didn't seem to be bothered by. But on the other hand maybe doing lewd content would be her limit.
>>1253008>if you don't agree with me, you're a WK
Shut up newfag, and stop pretending to be 2 people for your uwu racism infighting>>1253165
£50 for a worn, probably unwashed shirt? Some of these fans are in too deep. An OF might actually make him side cash and that's kind of sad. But tbh so many people are doing OF cos it's easy to take nudes in your bedroom. The question is, could he get off his ass to do it?
If you go out of your way to look for far fetched reasons why your holy cow did nothing wrong, you're a WK. And is it really that inconcievable to you that more than one person would object to this?
As for Jake, I think he has tge energy, moreso than Kaya. He produces tons of content. Shitty, lazy content, but still. His onlyfans wouldn't have to be high effort for his crazy fans to shovel money his way.
Ugh this is the last thing I'll say to the rayciss sperg. I'm laughing at how people are so sensitive, if you can't handle it and cope by saying I worship her, you do you babe
Anyway I checked out Fake Mundane's channel and found the "motovlogs" some anon was talking about. He mentions he does have 2 bikes, one off gumtree to practice for some reason. And his wannabe American accent and pandering to american audiences, like we drive on the wrong side haha, is worse than ever.
NTA. There are a lot of mythical creatures with a bunch of arms and eyes. But there are no mythical creatures that share that very specific imagery that's used in this photo. The problem isn't pointing out that other myths exist. It's suggesting that means this picture isn't copying hindu religious images.
Not surprising. Because Psychara stopped having original ideas about four years ago. But I guess at least it's not hairdyeing content. So meh.
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An important breast cancer PSA from Adora.
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Kaya is vagueposting on her instastory. Wouldn't say exactly what was going on but said it was because of "chavs". Because of course.
The part of her complaining about chavs was a video so i couldnt post caps of it.
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She was complaining about toothache earlier too.
Reasons 138775 and 138776 why she hasn't made a video.
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This woman is almost 30 and she is still stuck in this "us v the chavs" mentality that the rest of us literally grew out of when we were 16.
If she actually bothered to get to know people and not judge them by their accent/ clothes I think she'd be shocked to find that there really isn't that much animosity between groups like this any more (at least that's my experience).
If someone did this to her she would make 1 million tweets about PTSD and trauma.
I reckon some folk were just being noisy in a studio near hers and she cOuLdnT cOnCenTraTe despite the fact she never does any work.
>>1255205>If she actually bothered to get to know people and not judge them by their accent/ clothes
And the irony is that she has complained about people not doing that for her and judged her for being """goth""" but i guess judging people for being working class and having different accents is perfectly okay>>1255169
Every other week? More like everyb5 minutes
I have to agree with >>1255253
that I think Angela will be okay. Yeah she does overshare some of her life but she usually manages to give insightful advice and again like the other anon said, was able to relate it to Goth in a way. Dorian's videos are usually all over the place and have lots of "waffling" in it and at least with Angela, she's able to talk about these things with a hint of coherency.
It also helps that since YouTube isn't her job, she's able to pace herself and not overload her viewers with too much overshare type content.
These clothes are literally falling apart as she is showing them. The materials look no better than cheap costume synthetics.
Why do contemporary goths settle for such absolute crap?
Well for a start Jake can't benefit from EU residency laws so Spain is not an option. Unless as other anons have pointed out, he marries Kaya
I just don't see them putting up with all the paperwork and being landlord stuff.
iirc their current landlord was planning on renting out their house (before covid) so they're going to have to move out one day or another when things improve
Not defending her but pretty sure she thinks chav means ~normie~
She'd google this but the idea of summer frogs singing in ponds stressed her out and now the entire day is ruined.
She whined about "all her stuff being halfway across the world."
Honestly, I would just cut my losses.
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>>1258120>complains that the humidity of the air in Australia is stopping her from filming
According to her she does have friends
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Jesus Christ she’s massive, no wonder people think she’s trans. I guess this is why Jake has body dysmorphia, his lazy gf has a more masculine body than him
I feel like it's both. She's too lazy to Google, but even if she did, she wouldn't care. >>1259632
She's just a fat tall woman. Troons look like alcholic men.
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Buy Kaya a pool you guys! She can't be expected to live like this!
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Dorian parading around with her brand new skinny body, ‘it’s just an outfit post though’!!1
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All well and good, I’m sure you’re not hardcore triggering your fans, many of whom have or are in recovery from an ED.
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Same unfortunate face, but what looks like significantly more bodyfat.
Also what the fuck is this outfit? White pride li'l bopeep over here seems to be trying to rebrand
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I don't think so, just another flavour of the same thing: a white woman dressed in old clothing to signal other conservatives who think "the old times were better".
, she never looks vintage, in this she looks like she googled "old time women dress", choose a picture of bugs bunny in drag and went for it. Case in point
I had some sympathy for her in this story. That situation with the trip sounded like a nightmare for a teenager with a raging ED. I was forced to share bedrooms with my male siblings on trips for a long time and it was agony if you couldn't sleep. Even if you could, it was just weird having to be around male relatives the whole time with no privacy. But my family couldn't afford anything better so we made do.
namecalling was a bit much, yeah.
Don't misunderstand, if she'd acted that way as an adult I would roll my eyes. But as a mentally ill teen, it's not that egregious
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Samefag, I made a compilation of some of her recent video titles. This is chronic. I've never watched her content but I get the impression from these that she's not only wishing to be back in that time, but she wants to be back with the boyfriend from that time too, so many videos about "first love" and "first goth date" which might mean all of this is partly her trying to signal to the guy she talks about in these lengthy videos.
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Has anyone looked up pinkfaefemme? She's so milky she scares me. She overshares everything, particularly her sexual life and claims to be lesbian but goes out with a they/them man. Also claiming to have autism, borderline and bipolar disorder.
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Are you sure it's just the lipstick? It looks like she's wearing a goff mask of picrel, it's creepy.
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Wow, I couldn't get passed the first 30 seconds. I never heard her voice before. Her ig screams "attention whore". Yeah, it's not hard to be an alt model. Even the ugliest people can do it. Let me know when you're an accomplished runway model.
Just watched this video, had to watch it sped up because she kept pausing and going "ummm" in the beginning. For some reason she also kept mentioning how Jake is 30 and she's 19 when it wasn't even relevant. At one point she even says he spreads misinformation about goth and "i would be okay with that if he was younger" um??? Misinformation is bad no matter how old you are. It seemed agist honestly.
She did make some valid
points though. Like how Jake calls himself goth but admitted to hating goth music. And how most of his fans are underage but calls them snaccs was selling merch that said "goth daddy" on it.
She also brings up that he has tweeted inappropriate things & likes to comment on the appearances of the people in the tiktoks that he reacts to and this is what reminded her of Onision because Onision had those videos where he would rate girls. She does say though that he is not on the same level as onision.
Overall i appreciate the video but she could have been much more concise and less agist about it.
Definite lolcow reference. >>1262658
The difference between her account and other YTers is that her ED and dabbling with drugs is all she ever talks about. Okay, so they were supposedly a big part of a time of her life, but there's nothing else. Over and over. She's so one dimensional even though she tries so hard to seem interesting. Yes, I can understand that wanting to binge was a problem on holiday, but the ungrateful cunt gets a free fancy holiday in Italy and complains about every aspect of it. If she was a moody 14 year old at the time, fine, but she was EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD. Did she not have the option of staying home alone? She was old enough. All she's ever going to do is overblow every insignificant and minor significant thing about her past and film herself talking about it. She used to be skinny, she tried drugs, she had a friend that died. WE GET IT.
Yeah. They quietly dropped her. She's no longer listed on the employee section of their website.
Wonder if it was her fascist-inclusive attitude or complete loss of relevance that got her fired.
She was referencing the following two posts: >>1218852
“Is it just me or does Dorian seem like a fullblown womanchild?”>>1221678
“Unlike Dorian, who's now 36, living in her parent's basement, popping pills to have sex with ghosts, and shilling her cheap spergs on the web[…]”
I’ve long suspected her presence on the board - many posts on this thread raise an eyebrow but I’ve no definitive evidence. She’ll expose herself eventually.
I'll never stop being amazed by the sheer contrast between her viewing herself as wise and experienced because she's been through so much (totally self inflicted) shit back in her youth.. and her also somehow being too autistic to move out or generally adult. Her comment section is full of people telling her how smart she is and you can tell she agrees with them. But she's not smart enough to rent or set up some utilities in a flat of her own?
Like which is it. Are you so high functioning and articulate and experienced, someone with wise takes on many issues!…or a child in an adults body. She twists things to suit herself but nearly everyone with aspergers is capable of living alone with just the smallest amount of supports either from nearby family in the beginning or government provided services that step in so parents don't need to worry about you til they're on their deathbed. She'd be better off taking advantage of that and being settled into a normal life before her parents reach an age where they're ill or dying and still stuck worrying about her being incapable of the things some 18 years old manage just fine. It's pure selfishness keeping her there.
I think he calls himself goth like social repose does and his fans eat it up, because goth has no meaning to them other than appearance. And they think that Marilyn Manson is goth.
Jake does seem like the type of person to cling to the label to "prove the haturs wrong", though. >>1263180
Thanks for the tldw, anon! It's weird she brings up his age vs her age so much. Honestly, reminds me of leafy. Jake's creepy scrote behavior wouldn't be better if he were younger. But what do expect from a self-proclaimed "goth bimbo" e-whore.>>1263345
, if she moves out how would she afford her current lifestyle?! And she would have to tone down her look to get a job!
Her videos are repetitive. I didn't hate this one tho and it's a bit much to rag on her for being 18 and not a perfect adult - 18 ain't adulthood, she was sick (admits wanting to stay a child then - something that is less cringe at 18 than at 35) and using substances.
Idk if she could have stayed home, she said her parents persuaded her to go and she agreed if she could have her own room. I also heard quite a lot of positive stuff about Italy in the vlog. She admitted at the time she was too sick to enjoy any of those things. But being mentally ill, underage, on holiday with family, nowhere to really escape to - it doesn't sound like much fun. It's also a staple of ED memoirs: there is almost always a forced family vacation and description of how the sick person's insanity ruined it. It's so common as to have become a trope. I don't watch all of her videos and don't care to, but I watched this one. I think she should make changes in her current life and (gasp) grow up, but isn't it kind of sick to pick on the person she was back then: a teenager whose parents dragged her on holiday instead of getting help for her obvious eating disorder? That is fucked up, bc if her parents hadn't ignored her ED maybe she wouldn't be clinging to it now.
I'm not WKing current Dorian (she is embarrassing), just not understanding why shitting on typical 18yo behavior is en vogue. When do humans become adults then in your view? 16?
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Once again Kaya has a cool backdrop for a photo and poses like this. And she calls herself an influencer ?!
Not to take away that that's horrible, but literally millions of people have been through similar situations or worse and chose not to turn out like her.
Though most of the other stuff IS completely self-inflicted though, please let's not kid ourselves.
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You forgot to include the obligatory whinge.
They made her use the clutch…
holy shit, I actually didn't know that. my fault for just watching the juicy dramatic videos.
That changes my perception
again, irrelevant. I wasn't arguing that those are valid
excuses for her to be a womanchild, I was just saying not all of her misery was self inflicted as the anon above said it was. learn to read please.
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It pisses me off that everyone just suddenly forgot that KVD is a shit human. The music of an anti-Semite, antivaxxer, and covidiot is promoted to the public that doesn’t really know about her scandals.
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Anyone know what's up with Jimmy? Last I knew he was doing black and ice. Sounds like he's getting that meth psychosis.
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Good milk, but steven here needs to give us more info… why is jimmy macing people? Is he robbing, politically attacking people? Which brings us to:>>1264881
Last we heard of him he was being outed as a horrible human being, burns every bridge he has for being generally very shitty to friends and exes. What stuck out was prints of him saying to a latin guy something like: "ill kick your ass, beaner, I'll show who the master race is boy". His big excuse was that he isn't racist because didn't really mean
that! He doesn't think mexicans are inferior, he just said that to that especific mexican just because he didn't like him and thought it would offend him…
Zero sense but he really did believe it was a valid
Last I've seen him he had a new instagram, was going by a different @ and had all the instagoth famous mutually following. I'll try to find it again.
Not gonna lie, curious to see if this combo of drugs has already made him look disgusting like Luna, he used to be pretty delicious
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So at least Dorian is trying to get therapy. Now lets see if she actually listens to them.
"I just want people to give me asspats and feel sorry for me without me saying anything, mark my trigger
dates in your calendars or you are bad friends!"
God she's insufferable
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wonder how kvd feels about her husband being involved with a white man larping as a Native American
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End of the audio says "I fuck him more than you do"
She's constantly covered in hickeys it's so distateful. I don't know why brands would give her more than a second glance.
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This new thumbnail and video confirm Dorian's lost a fair bit of weight
- Calls Jake inappropriate for crude comments.
- Has an OnlyFans and is only 19.
To be fair, Dorian has a lot of severe mental and physical health issues. Dorian made a video (a long time ago) talking about how he lived on his own in the past. He ended up nearly dying because of his struggles with drug addiction and anorexia. I would rather that he live at home and get the support he needs rather than be in a flat alone and end up dead.
>which are mostly drama, responses, or stories from 10-20 years ago.
Yeah, because Angela doesn't do any of that AT ALL. She and Dorian are quite alike. Angela's just more mean-spirited and antagonistic in order to build her clout and keep attention on herself.
NTA but it's perfectly legal for a 19 year old to engage in sexwork if she wants to. And not just 60 year old men watch porn. Sometimespeople make money showing off their tittiesalso, wj
Hy would that disqualify her from calling out Jake's creepy shit?
Because she tried to call him out on the basis that a 13 year old could buy his shirts saying "Goth Daddy" and that, in general, minors can be exposed to his inappropriate material. Let's take that same logic and apply it to her OnlyFans. It's not far fetched to think that a kid could fake his/her age to get access to her videos. And that's assuming OnlyFans even requires validation of age to begin with (I don't use it either). Sites like OF typically don't have sophisticated authentication procedures. It's pretty much "R U over 18? Y or N?" to keep their asses from being sued should shit hit the fan.
And I wondered why her aesthetic looked so familiar. She's copying Alicia Amira, who started the whole "Bimbo movement", except with a goth twist.
Her whole look seems to be stuck in the mall goth era. Which is fine but it isn't doing her any favors. The cutesy Wednesday Addams type dresses she insists on wearing really emphasize how big she is. I remember she did a video dressing like a character from a Netflix show, but with a goth twist. It looked good, a little more grown up and flattering to her figure.
The hair looks very greasy. Why bother dressing up if you arent going to complete the look?
I feel like she is stuck in the past. Kaya, it is time to accept that you are getting older and are not the same size anymore! I saw she made a spacehey page with all the pics from at least 5 years ago LOL
So making adult content aimed at adults that children could possibly gain illicit access to is now comparable to marketing adult content at kids?
You do realize that logic would apply to all pornography or erotic art, right?
The problem with Jake is that minors are his target audience. If you add the "daddy" angle to it, that makes it so much creepier.
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I just can't get over how much the_goblin_queen has changed her style.>>1268540
You mean… teenage boys sometimes secretly look at boobs on the internet! For shame!
>So making adult content aimed at adults that children could possibly gain illicit access to is now comparable to marketing adult content at kids?
So making TikTok reaction videos with vulgar humor means that Jake is marketing adult content to kids? You do realize that everyone uses TikTok now, not just teenagers? Hell, even Anthony Hopkins makes TikTok videos.
By your logic every person on TikTok that makes twerking videos or thirst trap videos are problematic
because they're marketing content to children. And Adult Swim and South Park should've been banned because they're marketing adult content at kids (because you know how kids love cartoons).
>You mean… teenage boys sometimes secretly look at boobs on the internet! For shame!
You mean, teenagers sometimes watch TikTok reaction videos on Youtube that include crude humor and swear words… for shame!
>>1268306>She and Dorian are quite alike. Angela's just more mean-spirited
Yeah, as dorian is more flat out hateful and a victim
blamer. lets not pretend dorian is somehow better or should be excused because they have a clusterfuck of "mental illnesses" and "issues" to hide behind.
You're right Dorian isn't better, just different in some ways. Dorian is more covert and manipulative. Angela is the type to actively go after people over some petty pretentious bullshit and twists the truth to stir up drama. Essentially, they're the same.
You're right, mental and physical illness don't excuse bad behavior. It does, however, offer a valid
explanation for why he lives at home.
>more flat out hateful and a victim blamer.
I'm intrigued. I'm guessing there's some drama I've missed because I haven't seen any hate or victim
blaming from Dorian. I've seen loads of ED, waffling, and drug stories. So, what happened?
>>1268674>Dorian is more covert and manipulative.
Sometimes, yes. Othertimes hes pretty upfront in videos but then deletes them when called out on his BS.>I'm guessing there's some drama I've missed because I haven't seen any hate or victim blaming from Dorian.
Are you new? (not asking in an insulting way) because its been detailed in previous threads. Also see above-a few of the videos previously posted here (including one upthread it appears) he deleted and this happens often. Off the top of my head one video included blaming female rape victims
for their own rapes and saying they had privilege due to being female. That one got him the biggest backlash afaik. Also just general misogyny. There was another where despite being anti ED he used triggering
terms and commentors saying he was being a hypocrite (I cant remember what video that was but it was discussed in a previous thread)
His reaction for being called out for his terrible lolita video I think really shows his true face. I dont think it would have been bad had he not reacted the way he did, try to make hirself a victim
and attack others trying to correct him. So in short>So, what happened?
A lot, read the previous threads.
I edited this because i used the wrong pronouns.
>one video included blaming female rape victims for their own rapes
I remember that video, I watched the whole thing and it mostly seemed like frivolous bullshit like saying body standards for actors are higher than for actresses (which is utter bullshit in and of itself) but I don't remember that. I doubt she phrased it like that though (not saying she didn't at least imply that though, I wouldn't put it past her)
>>1268306>Mean-spirited and antagonistic
If you don't like her that's fine but how is she those things? She's pretty personable and open when it comes to her videos and I haven't seen her attack anyone. The Snowy Lowther situation was the only time she got in drama but she wasn't doing that to be mean, Snowy said that to be Goth you don't have to listen to the music which is false and Angela was just explaining that. Unless there was a time I'm missing where she was being malicious towards someone, I don't think those words really apply to her.>>1268550> SpaceHey page filled with only old photos
That's just sad lol…
In my opinion the shadiest thing Angela ever did was the reselling thrifted clothes as a favor to the community thing. Like her being a semi-big goth youtuber wouldn't drive up bidding on the items.
If you're reselling things you thrift for that exact purpose, fine. It's not great, because it takes affordable options away from people on a budget. But then just say that's what you're doing, rather than pretending it's an act of charity.
She got a ton of backlash over it, and deleted the video.
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Gifted a $220 dress.
Can't even be bothered to wash or style her fucking hair for the pics.
How long till that crisp white fabric is just cathear and fast food stains?>>1269341
You mean Jen, not Jess. But people don't get to change their name anymore I guess.
Doesn't have a job? I thought she did. She was laid off for a little while because of covid. And where are you getting the pill popping from?
I don't like Angela much. But claims like this need backing up.
Learn to read. It isn't vile and reprehensible that she was reselling clothes. It was a problem that she said she was doing a favour to people because she cares about goth so much, while she was raking in a profit.
But while you're on your highhorse you might like to take some time out to read up on the gentrification of thrifting. Buying clothes from thriftstored cheaply and selling them at a high markup puts those clothes out of the reach of people on a limited budget.
I agree, if people are going to make claims like that they need to provide a source/reasoning. she lost her aesthetician job because of covid, had to move out of her apartment because of a rat infestation, then I think they had to move a second time? I'm not sure about that though. but being out of a job because of a pandemic and having PTSD don't seem like milk to me, nor does being supported by a spouse while you're out of work. I'm not saying angela is never shady, but people come here from time to time and make unsubstantiated claims about her, like that time someone said she only recently became a goth and that all her storytimes were completely fabricated. it gets annoying honestly (and it's annoying when they do it about anyone, not just angela).>>1269697>But while you're on your highhorse you might like to take some time out to read up on the gentrification of thrifting. Buying clothes from thriftstored cheaply and selling them at a high markup puts those clothes out of the reach of people on a limited budget.
I have read about it, and that's not even what thrift store gentrification is. thrift store gentrification is when people supposedly buy out thrift store clothing with the intention of reselling it and the thrift stores raise their prices as a result of this, therefor making it harder for lower income people to shop at thrift stores. but according to the articles I've read, thrift stores haven't actually raised their prices as a result of this. and yes it would be bad if that was happening but like I said most influencers perpetuate much worse things and no one bats an eye.