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If you're new, here's a summary of why she's a cow: https://lolcow.farm/kiki
Kiki Kannibal, Lilou Vos, Kirsten Ostrenga, Sperg-Chan, Keeks, Dakota's sister, whatever you wanna call her, has rebranded herself… as an SJW! Just as her previous threads died out, how ironic.
Following her Wal-Mart candids, Kiki abandoned the internet, only stopping in here and there to warn against internet stalkers and to post animal gore in the name of saving animals.
Bored with playing Sarah McLachlan on Twitter, she's graduated to giving out advice to sexual assualt victims
and calling out every guy who has ever sexually assaulted her in paragraph long threads. Why now? Because #metoo.
Her new callouts include Romeo Lacoste, Jonny Craig (Someone's been triggered
from reading the TND threads), and some random Sony executive on a plane, which seems to be the most recent account.
She also posted a badly scripted, hard-to-watch, two part video on her Twitter regarding sexual assault.
It's speculated she's still in Florida because anons recognized her Florida bedroom in the video above and there have been no signs of Bobby.
At least she's trying to do something positive? I think she's just going public so she can have an excuse to give if anyone ever uncovers the Sperg-Chan stuff.
Oh, I forgot, Room 8 finally came out and now we see why she gave up on acting.
See previous thread for links to the stuff mentioned above:>>451592
Actors Access: https://resumes.actorsaccess.com/lilouvos
Sperg-Chan Summary: https://lolcow.farm/kiki
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Here's some screenshots of her Twitter SJW tier ranting to start the thread off. 1/3
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huh. whoever this is, it's likely not a celebrity cause he wouldn't be slumming it in coach with Kiki.
maybe it was just some creeper that told her he was working on some major project to impress her.
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ffs can't she just focus on doing something meaningful instead of just tweeting @ celebrities about some supposed sexual assault.
It just seems like another fanatical tactic to take shortcuts with her acting career. She probably has hopes of being in the documentary.
Her one and only goal has always been, and will always be to be a famous victim
pf a celevrity rapist. I think her parents convincing her Danny raped her as a teen just to cover the fact that they tried to entrap him & got him killed for dumping her really fucked her head up long term. It's like she only wants fame and attention based on pity and shame instead of passion or art.
If that were the case then why would she do this >>652083
in addition to taking huge breaks from social media? Trainwreck as she may be, adult keeks doesn't have the same attention-seeking issue that most cows do. If you take any given threat on lolcow chances are that you'll see attention-seeking behavior that keeks hasn't displayed since she was a kid, if at all.>>652136
No that was after keek's peak and an 11yo girl, though allegedly they preyed on other girls too.>>652172
Well yeah, her parents are horrible people who didn't and don't give a shit about their daughters beyond living vicariously through them. The biggest thing that makes these 'i was sexually assaulted by this guy and this guy and this guy etc' stories believable from her is that she was put in a position to be exploited by her parents. It's not unlike the rumors of child actors getting passed around in the industry but much more pathetic given that it was for internet fame.>>652464
This is an imageboard for women…
things like poor boundaries, draw towards what is familiar (abusive
situations or people) and in general, abusers have a radar for vulnerable people. she is nuts but is probably extremely malleable to whoever she is attached to
she has claimed this 4 times that i am aware of.
- Danny, the reason being because her dumbfuck parents allowed a boy to come live with them in her daughter's bedroom (wouldn't have made a difference whether he was 17 or 19 imo. he was still going to fuck her when they turned their backs).
- the guy from the concert (?) whatever it was. Again her parents put her in that situation, dropping off their underage daughters alone in zone of strangers. Hell knows how he got her in a room alone with him to ask her to blow him.
- guy on the plane.
- a story of when she was working in retail and a customer tried to lure her into his car.
Call it slut-shaming if you want, but I think half of these scenarios happened because her parents were irresponsible as fuck and put her in dangerous situations. And the other half because well.. because she likes to dress like a anime dominatrix out in public, with short skirts and dog collars. If random everyday women get harassed by pigs for just going out, then it's not surprising that someone like her is a magnet for this kind of attention.
It's been more than 4 times.
I've been following Kiki for over a decade now, and every year she always tweets about new ones right after they happen. At least she did before she went into hiding.
Like once she was working in a store and a guy tried to drag her out. Idk if anyone remembers that.
Oh, oops. You mentioned the store one.
There were also countless stories of her being harassed by guys in her classes.
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right, i remember the one about her class too.
1. a brief story time video about how a guy physically forced her to sit on his lap.
2. a homophobe tweet about a lesbian teacher sexually harassing her and how disgusted she was.
a 3rd reason of why there are so many of these "stories" is probably because she is just over-paranoid that everyone wants her and exaggerates + lowkey loves to brag it. before PULL started mocking her for it, her and kooter used to make countless humblebrag tweets about strangers doing/saying all kinds of things to them for being "pretty". and that included a ton of supposed unwanted sexual attention.
Pretty much. Usually they come from broken homes with parents who were abusive
to them or just dysfunctional, and abuse becomes what they know. And of course certain personality disorders and addiction issues can reduce someone's ability to judge other people properly or make them desperate enough to end up in relationships that are bad for them. Predators, on the other hand, are good at reading people (at least with respect to how vulnerable they are to predation) and can detect potential targets very easily.
Keeks grew up in a fucked up family situation and may or may not have been molested as a child (including pushing random legal adults onto her as a teen), based on her recent social media posts. That would definitely make her more vulnerable to abuse. Her recent accusations are complicated by her previous(?) paranoid obsession with sexual harassment, but victims
of abuse usually are far from perfect. It could be that she was/is lying about some things and being truthful about others.(armchair)
frankly i think you're right about it being a humblebrag.
the assault survivors that i've known don't really bring it up on a frequent basis. even people that i know who are go-go dancers, cosplay models, strippers, etc., and have countless
interactions with drunk dudes overstepping their boundaries don't bring any of that up unless it's relevant to the conversation.
kiki equals being sexually targeted with being attractive. like 'ooh i'm so pretty men just can't control themselves around me'. in reality there are men who will just leap at anything that breathes and has a pussy, but to her it's a validation of how beautiful she is.
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I follow sherliza n she made a video of kooter it wasn’t offensive at all n kaka had it deleted lol bitch is alive
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and now she's going to try to do something about it.
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Keeks have active on twitter trying to act all innocent SJW. Who is she trying to fool.
How is it possible to be this much of a hypocrite? It's certainly hasn't been a decade since she was spamming lolcow with gore and posts about wanting to gut Taylor R.
Never change Keeks, you will always be a huge bitch.
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to be fair, the "I'm going to gut this bitch" post was actually her falseflagging death threats about herself. though that's arguably even worse
Her family is fucked up, without a doubt. You don't have to be beaten to a pulp on a daily by your heroin daddy to suffer mental health consequences from abusive
parental behavior and neglect, just saying
Isn't kiki 30 nowadays so why are we blaming family, wtf? She's a grown woman or are you all armchairing womenchildren?. I've been reading her lolcow posts again ever since she has come up with a new persona and she legitimately makes me scared to death. Like I think we all would do this if we could, whiteknighting a lil bit for ourselves if we were in the situation of being e-bullied, but she's taking it too fucking damn far. Like the threatening herself part was fucked up, and proves she wants to victimize herself so much (well people always do that I guess but it's still scary to see it) just to get attention (or the thread deleted? Both? She knows it doesn't work yet she keeps trying and makes everything worse again and again to the point kota is starting to facepalm, I mean what milk did kota have? Muh homophobia when she was a fucking kid? Nitpicking? Having such an embarassment of a 30 year old balding sister?
Whoever dates her, needs to run as far as possible. I don't think after that weirdo Danny anyone harassed her at any more deeper level than catcalling, she is most definitely immune for any pervert or human being and if she continues her antics she will likely die alone.
And then I am scared even more when I see her new tweets, what the fuck? It is funny in a trainwreck way and scary at the same time. I just advice her to fix her shit and do something useful. The flagging videos and LARPing at age fucking 30 all to get infamous attention is so sad. Jimmy Star is some doing this as well but he's doing it right at least. We don't see your millions anywhere, kiki. Whatever you're doing, stop. It isn't being funny anymore. Her persona is just straight-out horrifying. I need to clear my history browser and I regret checking her out to see how she's doing. Jesus.
So much this. I just pity her now. Everything about her makes me cringe. We are about the same age, and I would be mortified if I was living with my parents, patting myself on the back for being in a couple of student films and thinking myself so brave for wearing my vegan leather bondage gear in public in a world full of sexual predators who want to assault me because of my kira kira princess from mars
beauty. Jesus christ dude I know some people are late bloomers but she seems to be perpetually mentally stuck at 14 years old
Her living with her parents makes me lean towards more that there was no physical/sexual abuse going on with them. I think she was talking about encounters she had on the internet and with Danny.
Yeah, still awful, but she hasn't grown through it or helped herself at all. Unfortunately the same things have happened to so many girls, at this age more often it has been at least worked on, have gotten therapy, and improved. She likes too much to be a victim
to be able to work through it healthily. She hasn't changed or grown at all. Most likely never will.
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How is she still convinced that she has been 'targeted by a small group of persistent predators for over half of my life'? Where did she even get that idea to start with?
>Hopefully one day the internet will be a safer place for freedom of expression without insane amounts of abuse
It's sad to say but that's simply never going to happen. It sucks, but people will always be mean on the internet. All content creators face this crap but they don't break down constantly, they learn to deal with it.
She's still stuck on the same old things, I really wish she'd get some proper therapy.
Wow some of you are so fucking ignorant. She’s obviously unstable and possibly schizophrenic, I highly doubt she can take care of herself and if she did live on her own there is such an increased risk of her losing it in a serious way. Abused people stay with their abusers literally all the time, especially when they’re parents and you want more than anything to believe they’ll get better and change because abuse is a choice, mental illness isn’t. She’s been rationalizing her parents abuse her whole life and clearly has cognitive processing issues that are constantly illustrated in these threads. She displays either hyper sexuality or this weird pure fairy shit which is splitting.
Kiki is a fucking asshole especially for telling people to kill themselves when she herself knows she has problems and doesn’t Medicare herself or get therapy, that could legitimately hurt someone with issues. But no she doesn’t deserve to have people being hateful about her mental illness, all that does is perpetuate not only her being crazy triggered
the stigma surrounding common illnesses that people do not choose and suffer from all the time. How can you criticize her for her issues when you obviously have no idea about the most basic things, are you of a much older generation that repressed this reality?(k)
Ah, good old Kiki. Somehow it's nostalgic to see she's still out there making a fool of herself. Some things never change, I guess. >>668696
I don't believe that, honestly. It would explain some things but the majority of traits autistic people have don't really line up with her personality (or lack thereof).
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Is she suicidal?
meh, go read some literature on how research (from healthcare to corrections) has ignored gender, such as by only using all-male samples. Plenty of researchers have called into question the generalization of findings pre-science-giving-a-fuck-about-women.
Sorry if OT
I only watched 40 sec cause its classic stale af, aint going no where, god damn bitch just get a 9-5 job, how are you even staying afloat type powdered milk. >Says she wants to video "diary" dealing with and overcoming codependency, addiction or whatever to love etc>says she knows its risky to put herself out there on the internet with this stuff especially "with her history" (kaka ever the antagonist who wants to live like shes still a teen getting harassed 24/7 on myspace)>follows that up with saying what any up their own ass yt'er says which is ~"im sharing my story so hopefully someone out there can be helped or relate which totally isnt me admitting to my savior complex to excuse over sharing about mememememe
She starts mentioning that books exist and thats where im hopping cause shes just being quirky tm and sifting through her word vomit to make sense of whats inevitably "her story". She has time to impose clouds but can't edit out the constant tripping of words and not even trying to stay on track which just feels narc tier like nobody needs to see all the "funny" bloopers when it makes the vid 19minutes, you just think it makes you look approachable and attractive
>>672745>gonna video diary thoughts on overcoming love addiction and other shit in title to help other people with these issues>says she was targeted, groomed, raped and abandoned at 13 (danny?) used codependency to cope, cant be alone, needs to be told things are ok by other people>went to ER yesterday for heart stuff but no elaboration on it, does some kinda body awareness meditation spoken out loud>says the guy who abused her used her as a "calling card" and people were enamored with him cause he was with her (wut?)>used to tell herself she's worthless as a coping mechanism so nobody could "take anything from her" if she had nothing>felt she should have been able to control more things in her life despite unpredictable circumstances even as a kid>wants to become emotionally stable by herself>had a rape kit done and the councellor said she was either going to be very promiscuous or hate men. she says it was both only she didn't screw around but had boyfriend after boyfriend>kept falling in love with people super quickly and entering toxic relationships>gonna be restarting her website
sorry if its a shitty recap. overall very stretched out content with little substance. thought the way she phrased her falling in love with people sounded like she was aiming to paint herself in a better light rather than take responsibility for entering toxic
I don't follow this cow, but Jesus Christ
the combination of that hairline and fivehead. Girl, you need bangs.
Thanks for the recap, anon! She is still making "being raped and harassed online years ago" her whole personality.
>sounded like she was aiming to paint herself in a better light rather than take responsibility
Never change Kaka.
cool story. i'm diagnosed with it. it does manifest differently at the high functioning end of the spectrum because women are socialized differently and learn to hide it better.
it's impossible to say without knowing her irl anyways, but if she's reading here i hope she looks into it.
1. The hoarding in the background
2. The cringy thing she did, @ 6:00 lol girl
3. Crazy eyes throughout the whole thing.
Right, if she did that here, who knows what else she posted/did on other websites? Wouldn't put it past her to create sock accounts and bully elsewhere (we already know they're good at making sock accounts)
Kinda glad she's back though, kek. My prediction is she's going to use this slow-moving thread about her to victimize herself about people "still being after her". Let's be honest, she constantly wants
people to talk about her and hate on her, otherwise that takes away a huge part of her "personality" and leaves her with nothing to be a victim
about and nothing to talk about.
I don't know about kiwifarms or other places or where else she is posted but as far as I know, nobody cares about her and at this point we're kinda just here to observe and for the nostalgia.
I think she never developed any sort of interesting life or personality…so she’s making her online persona 100% about this.
She thinks she’s some sort of personal growth guru.
True, and no one knows how she treats people offline either.
Yeah, probably. I don't understand who has been "harassing" her online either as she states? All I ever see are people talking about the fact she needs to sort her life out here and that's all. The actual threats happened up to about 2007-2009 when she was in that scene phase, max? Around 10 years ago or more. It's fucked.
Thing is, she could talk about her actual recovery… The issue is that she doesn't have one. Yeah, that's pretty much it, agreed.>>673103
Agreed. She could actually just recover, y'know, by using actual methods that are proven to work rather than spewing pointless shit on Twitter about abuse.>>673106
Seems like emotional pain. Looks like she's working on accepting it and letting it do its thing rather than distracting herself. As much of a liar as she is, that's a good way to start handling it. It still confuses me why she's not further on in her recovery though.
Supposedly she started to feel pain during the video (min 5-7) bc she recalled traumatic events (she literally triggered
herself into emotional pain).
And then she said she is addicted to love and is a serial monogamous bc of her trauma and hasn't recovered.
Ignoring other people is what makes it obvious she's doing it for the same reasons the scene queen thing existed. Publicity, attention, etc. It's all to make her social media look good and override any trace of her craziness.
Yeah, good point. Feels like she loves trauma. I can't ever recall wanting to stare at images of animal abuse. It's concerning that's what she chooses to flood her accounts with.
Seriously. “Opening up a conversation”
Lol girl there are like millions of memes about mental health issues because they’re so prevalent. It’s more open than it’s ever been. You aren’t original
Everyone seems to want to "open the conversation" on mental health. This topic also became specially marketable if you add a sprinkle of either rape or sexual misconduct after #metoo
She's just bandwagoning again under the disguise of helping others
I know right? Don't get me wrong, the way her parents brought her up and treated her was clearly wrong even though we don't know the extent of it and she does seem traumatised. But just because that happened doesn't mean she gets to spew shit here against other people and attempt to solicit attention through opening up some "conversation" focused solely on her.
She literally is so behind with everything. People opened up that mental health conversation long ago, and now the majority are seeing the importance of going to psychotherapy and leaving things for those sessions only where it's safe. The biggest mistake she's made so far is opening things back up in the exact same spot she was traumatised in. Gets traumatised because of the Internet, runs back to the Internet she claims was full of predators anyway, I mean… Hasn't anyone told her that that doesn't make sense? You'd think by now she'd be smart enough to stop making herself vulnerable to a pool of people she doesn't know and stick to real-life interactions exclusively.
If she's gonna do YouTube, she could go down the route of showing people HOW she recovered (when she does) so people can try techniques themselves, or anything else that's interesting in her life, but she won't do that because she still has the compulsion to unload pain into the wrong place and try to gain sympathy. It's as if she's content with pain and trauma being her entire personality and existence.
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She updated her website
If she’s truly ready to heal i suggest she change her online name to simply “kiki” or “kirsten”. She so triggered
by that era yet can’t rid herself of it. Tragic
imo she hates negative attention unlike most cows, hence why she can disappear for years and why her most recent spate of bad behavior was all anonymous. She definitely doesn't live an 'all attention is good attention' lifestyle, at least anymore, which makes her kind of compelling.>>673133
To be fair, the vast majority of ~mental health gurus~ don't focus on serial monogamy; it's surprisingly absent from the discussion of mental health. However, like most people on social media who try to position themselves as an authority on mental health (or anything really), she is wholly unqualified to give any form of advice.>>673455
She did try to get rid of it; at this point she's probably given up and figures that embracing it is her only shot at renewing her e-fame because without her past and weird lolcow exploits she's unremarkable in a sea of wannabe influencers.
Quick question: her front hair pieces look gray ish?>>674213
She did. And added "the girl who played with fire" to the bios? So it's like, shes not Kiki Kannibal but she sure is the victim
Her handle is still the same, so it's not like she's not clinging to her old internet fame in order to stay just slightly relevant.
anyway she posted a new video on IG, it's boring though. https://www.instagram.com/p/BzSAicQnSbl/
I remember that. She'd said inmates (plural) often contacted her bc they'd read the Girl Who Played With Fire article. She's despicable.
I preferred when she did the humblebrags about people stopping her on the street to compliment her butt lol
This is so boring.
"I can't love anyone or anything because I'll get attached, and I'll be co-dependent," - shows that she has high expectations of other people and just wants them to do everything for her. People frequently disappoint her when they're not putting her on a pedestal.
Her joke accent is making her look like she's not taking the topic seriously. Why is she going southern all of a sudden? I get how she lived in Florida most of her life, but come on, just stop it.
Not really an epiphany that you can admire anyone/anything without attachment. This is common sense, fucking hell. You don't check out random people on the street, or plants or whatever, and immediately get attached. Is she saying that's what happens to her?
"When I would fall for someone I would think, oh my God, what are the next steps? Are we gonna get married?" - this is just creepy as fuck. Can you imagine meeting her, being interested and she starts talking about shit like that when you're simply trying to get to know her? Just shows she isn't interested in getting to know the person for who they really are and bases everything on appearance. Remember when she was trying to get a Japanese husband? She would have dated anyone as long as they were Asian. Also referring to what her ex said, no, this is not in fact "ingrained in all human beings, especially women." Lmao, we're slightly past the "caveman days" and society currently views this behaviour as desperate and creepy. How the fuck is this a human need? What? We generally want to find the right person to be with, so will take our time in getting to know them.
How can it be a love addiction when love is defined by being selfless towards the person in question without expecting anything in return? She didn't love any of those people. If she did, she wouldn't be demanding that they put her on a pedestal. She wouldn't be talking to them about huge commitments before even knowing them at all because she'd realise that could scare and harm them.
She admits she was playing the victim
, while continuing to play the victim
"Don't let these issues define who you are," she says, while letting all of her issues define her entire existence.
The biggest issue is that she's so socially retarded that she doesn't understand that the majority of people are aware of all this shit, but ultimately realise they have to process everything with the help of a psychologist and move onto normal life activities as soon as possible. Once people achieve balance in their lives they generally stop spinning the same conversation.
Also, no, we don't "oftentimes" need a trauma to trigger
epiphanies. Plenty of people have never had traumas and they're still aware of how life works.
Wants to create a community so she can get attached to the praise of random people online, lol.
What a fucking piece of shit. I don't buy any of this until she admits to the crap she's been spreading on this site, as well as that site she dedicated to taking the piss out of Danny Cespedes years after his death. She's an abuser masquerading as some ethereal divine spirit healer. It's like, piss off. Maybe she can write to some more prison inmates and get herself a prison husband, that way when he gets out and has no one or nothing else, she can take full control and ownership of him, lol. Think she's generally trying to convince herself that the reason she doesn't have a partner is because everyone she gets with is disordered, when she's just a creepy, scary fucker, lmao. Can't wait until she starts making videos about how her exes are sociopaths because they left her.
I can't help but feel like she just read or watched war and peace and these are her retarded cliffs notes from Prince Andreis death scene where he finds forgiveness.
“Yes, love (he thought again with perfect distinctness), but not that love that loves for something, to gain something, or because of something, but that love that I felt for the first time, when dying, I saw my enemy and yet loved him. I knew that feeling of love which is the very essence of the soul, for which no object is needed. And I know that blissful feeling now too. To love one's neighbours; to love one's enemies. To love everything—to love God in all His manifestations. Some one dear to one can be loved with human love; but an enemy can only be loved with divine love. And that was why I felt such joy when I felt that I loved that man. What happened to him? Is he alive? … Loving with human love, one may pass from love to hatred; but divine love cannot change. Nothing, not even death, nothing can shatter it. It is the very nature of the soul. And how many people I have hated in my life. And of all people none I have loved and hated more than her.”
These vids are so sad and lame. Kirsten, pls just get off the internet and do some crafts or something. Make some swarovski bat jewelry and return incognito in a year's time with an instagram store selling handmade scene queen nostalgia accessories. I'd be down for that.>>674089
Literally the only way Kiki could be relevant or interesting now is if she went full 100% painfully honest and came clean about everything she’s done, as well as exposed how her parents exploited her growing up.
I used to get dogpiled on lolscenequeens/efagz years ago for saying this but it's true
"Oftentimes we get addicted to unhealthy things, unhealthy media…"
Speak for yourself Keeker. It's funny that she said she consumes garbage on YouTube and she's part of that reality for me, lol. She is garbage and I watch her when I can't be bothered with anything else.
Major problem with what she's saying regarding how people make you feel; no one should be able to make you feel or do anything. She's missed the point again. Healthy adults can interact with most people, even if they have issues, and avoid seeing said person's issues as anything to do with themselves. This is why she's failed with so many things career-wise and in general. She's so quick to cut contact with people without knowing anything about them. How ironic it is that her slogan is, "We all have a story. What's yours?" when she doesn't even listen to anyone.
Everyone is a toxic
abuser, even if they just offer her their phone number again after she's said "No." We live in a world where most people have been traumatised, hence why there's such a huge need for psychologists, and she needs to deal with those people because they're everywhere. She just wants to control them rather than staying respectful and controlling her own words and actions.
Like, I get it. You're obviously going to cut contact with outright violent people who have you in their abuse cycle, but she stops talking to people for the smallest of reasons. She stopped talking to me because I knew what PULL was. Also how is a guy offering you their number despite you saying "No," a threat of any kind? Just politely explain to him you're not interested instead of being angry about it. She's literally punishing someone for attempting to have a normal human interaction. I highly doubt he was doing anything other than asking the same question multiple times which is honestly not a safety threat, nor a big deal.
I hate how she's instructing people on what to do like a psychologist. She's just spreading bullshit. She needs to address the fact that if she feels unwell after talking to someone, it's probably some kind of trigger
within herself that isn't based in reality. She continues to act like everyone is going to hurt her when that's just not the case. It is all her. All I hear is her justifying her behaviour as the product of outside causes; other people, energy, etc. She really needs to get fucking help because she does not understand that anything can trigger
a trauma survivor. A sunny day, a colour, etc. She can't keep blocking out people and things that trigger
her or she really is going to end up alone.
Again with the "toxic
" labelling. She doesn't even see everyone as a human being despite their issues. Nasty. She's fucking ill.
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You're right, they totally broke up. I remember her (ex)boyfriend had to deactivate some social media probably because some crazy people tried to get in contact with him regarding Kiki. Now he is up to something new apparently and started to post again this month which triggered
her current phase. I censored his name btw
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Late, but it hasn't been discussed yet: Kiki was apparently with Bobby for 3 years which would place their meeting during, or directly after, the great sperg-chan meltdown.
Armchair but she does hit almost every sign of BPD.
Was part of the reason she moved to LA for Bobby?
Will she ever get help? She seems to have an ounce of self-awareness in this post, but still no signs of actual improvement.
(Also how has it been 3 years since the sperg-chan reveal already?)
I was surprised she managed 3 weeks in a row of YT uploads and then, of course, she's totally missed this week. Some things never change.
>>683794>Kiki was apparently with Bobby for 3 years which would place their meeting during, or directly after, the great sperg-chan meltdown.
She didn't want him to find out about her past, so she sperged all over the place to prove Bobby that we are all crazy ugly fat lesbian haterz and she's the poor victim
. It was all a show to get some dick.
That does sound like OG keeks but she moved past the 'lesbos' insult phase like a decade ago.
Jokes on that anon though, I appreciate keeks as a cow and still want her to make it>>684289
Japan has a completely different standard of beauty and values child-like looks; aside from her weight kiki had nothing to offer them.
was just about to post I think she might be BPD.
Also does anyone else get the vibe that she’s trying to move into some weird self-help guru phase. Idk I can barely watch her new videos but its reminding me so much of “””that””” sort of person
I don't think there's any evidence of BPD at all here.
Yeah she's clearly still trying to stay relevant in a changing era and make herself out to be a "self-help" guru/influencer. It's so cringey watching these videos because it's so transparent how much she's faking this persona. There's nothing genuine. She's just nearing 30 and hasn't put in any work into talents or whatever to be interesting, so she's forcing this. She posts like a million memes on her stories to get noticed and it's really weird.
He's literally using the same name as last time, why censor it? Bobbyhatanaka.
Also how old is this guy
??? I thought he and Kiki were both 25ish, but this guy is obviously in his 30s. Given how she was living with him in LA for the entire 2ish years she went silent on SM after getting with him, maybe it was a sugar arrangement and he just got tired of her not actually trying to start her own career. Whatever the case, if she was with Bobby for the whole 3 years and that's why she wasn't online then good for her, but breaking up with him to move back to FL as kota's career finally sputters out is kinda funny. I know we don't know what happened but I'm sure some idiot will eventually get the story by trying to message him.
I don't think she has moved back to FL. In her vlogs she's in the same place she was in with Bobby. She might actually have a job that's keeping her there.
Three vlogs in and she's given up on her YouTube return again. Is this a new record?
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Nah he's very much the same age as Kiki. Probably only a few years older. I found an article about him dancing with other high schoolers during spring show in 2008. He's just old and haggard looking.
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What’s up with her IG username??
Yeah, shitty vegan diets age you harder than normal. One anon clocked him in his 30s, another said he looked 40+. He's more haggard without filters than kaka, which is generous. I would never
look at >>687385
and guess that was a 26-27 year old.
Not to powerlevel or sperg but as an Asian-anon this guy genuinely looks like my Dad's friends who are all in their mid 40's. This has to be diet related because we, and especially men don't age like that with a hard face. I know a lot of Buddhist vegetarians and they still don't look that hard in the face so this guy must be nutrient starved or some shit.
I imagine Kiki has a similar diet from the looks of it. She doesn't look so bad to me I think a lot of it is just how her face is made, but with some weight she'd look a lot younger.
god, lolsq…. those were the prime LJ days, i miss them lmao.
anyway, i think it's interesting that you guys are bringing up the aspergers/autism thing. like obviously we can't really know, but kenna recently just made a video about recently being diagnosed with autism and she really reminds me of kiki in a lot of ways.(necro)
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lurks her social media once in a blue moon to see how she's doing
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Looks like she's still in LA, and still trying to fuck her way through life instead of supporting herself.
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Her post referencing high rent in LA. Still trying to be an emo/scene groupie since that trend is coming back.
It's hilarious that she's trying to cling to her past scene clout despite still looking like a cheap Taobao fairy, it's like she wants someone to dig her old ass up and make #kikikannibal a hot topic again without her having to do anything or return to the style herself. That's what always annoyed me about Kiki, she so obviously and desperately wants fame and attention, but rather than be real about it she wants to pretend like it snuck up on her against her will for being so talented and gorgeous. That, and her never-ending almost-rape accusations are why she'll never make it, she's too passive and sheepish and needs someone to literally show and tell her everything and
protect her from da hayturz and paying bills.
Her fashion sense is still awful, but she looks surprisingly healthy here.>>737438
Wow, she's directly referencing her old e-fame days? Something's up…>>737683
She will certainly disappear again after her current venture fails. Hopefully she sticks around for a while though.
>>737922>>>737922>Her fashion sense is still awful, but she looks surprisingly healthy here.
Looks like she finally gained some weight, maybe Kaka dropped veganism for cheese-filled snackfoods as well?
>Wow, she's directly referencing her old e-fame days? Something's up…
MCR just got back together, so everyone including their little sister is pretending they were the loudest, cringiest sceenie weenie in middle school because of it for clout.
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She's gearing up for something, after all her failures and overblown "opportunities" she wasted, plus with Dakota being silent and not working these days I bet our beloved Kaka is planning some comeback to her scene dramukween days sand hair and makeup. The way she clings to the name Kiki Kannibal after running that persona into the ground speaks volumes about what a no-trick pony she is. The only way she can get attention is if it's negative but because that directly opposes her love&light&positivity persona, well, she keeps going crazy when she doesn't become loved & famous for simply being pretty and sharing her interests online like she still tries to pretend her sister did.
Mark my words, she's planning another comeback for 2020.
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I guess it's Kiki's turn to try baiting for a SD with seminudes on IG? Her sister used to do that a lot when she was still getting decent work. I wonder what Kaka is up to? she keeps liking and RTi g shit about her and Kota/suing people/rebooting their scene fame.
i mean she still looks good and there's plenty of cringey autistic camgirls out there
it would certainly make her more money than anything she's tried in the past 10 years
oops. didn't know you could sage in kiki's thread again or i would have for my last comment
anyway, i honestly feel like she'd camwhore before being honest about her past at all beyond "i was always a victim
and the internet ruined me"
She won't try "profiting off nostalgia" because she won't actually do
anything for herself. She wants to be able to pretend the demand for 2009 Kaka Kannibal is so great that she has to abandon her glittering career as an actress and animal rights activist to become a colored-hair trendsetter again. Problem is, nobody wants to force her to do it so she'll just keep teasing and posting 10 year old selfies as she vaguetweets about her and Kooters' prime.
We have entire threads on camwhores who think exactly like Kaka, they believe they're too pretty and special to work retail or food service and thus, they cam.
The Ostrengas, however, believe they're even more
special than that and so they spend their lives mentally tucked away in their ivory towers waiting for Purinsu Chaamingu-san to come support them for the rest of their lives. Selling nudes to strangers online doesn't fit in with their princess mentalities, they want to be plucked up by someone rich/handsome/influential who tells then they're too special and gifted to do anything but play around all day. Two entirely different mentalities, anon.
How the fuck is she still in LA? So many cows mysteriously living in expensive places, there is no way that none of them are escorting or sugaring. At least live in a believable area if they don't want people speculating.
I guess I wouldn't put it past her to fake living in the middle of LA though, like she faked being in Japan the one time.
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Still doing the weird maybe-nude posts, this time she had an epiphany where she realizes she can't make avoidant people love her to prove her worth.
I wonder when Kiki will realize all her relationships fail because she's a pit of attention starved need that will never end or become self reliant? All she does is post PETA goreporn and talk about ~healing and forgiving herself~ on Twitter instead of getting a job.
And waiting for her rich prince charming to swoop her up out of mom & pop Kannibal's pocket.
Too bad Kiki doesn't realize that you can't fill the holes in your personality with psychobabble and fake humility while going through life with emotional blinders on, avoiding everything that challenges your self image and would actually make her grow as a person. It seems like she's kinda waiting to be "healed" but it'll never happen, because all her "pain" and "bad habits" are still rooted into her persona she can never let go of. She'll never be Kirsten, normal girl with an online following who shares her life and hobbies with her fans. She'll always be washed up Kiki Kannibal trying to rebrand herself as the "healed" version of Kiki Kannibal, with all the old clout sans the actual style. She doesn't get that you can't just dust off your old self while picking and choosing which traits to keep from it. Every time she seems to go away from that old persona, suddenly she's making references to it and posting old selfies again.
She looks so much older than she is. Not like 40+ or anything but definitely mid 30s. She doesn't look bad, just very… mature.>>741148
Forgiving yourself is all fine and dandy, but it's worthless because you didn't earn any forgiveness for the shit you've done. See an actual psychologist, do some work in therapy, make some apologies, and THEN forgive yourself. God, what a narcissist.
This. If she were focused on true healing she would be challenging herself, issuing apologies to people from her past and directly taking responsibility for her actions instead of just brushing all her past shit under the PC umbrella of "I was hurt & lashed out, but I'm better now sorry". She knows she'll never be able to convince anyone but herself that she's "changed" because in her mind, she can just pretend she wasn't aware of or responsible for calling people faggots and dykes and putting peope down for being ugly or poor, all because back then she thought she was a flawless, untouchable internet queen. Like you said, she's a classic Narc and that's what drives decent people away from her and attracts other narcs to her. She needs legit therapy.
As for her looks, yeah, she's not ugly but she looks older because she's probably malnourished from being a fad vegan for so long. her skin looks drawn across her bones and she has the Crazy Eyes, so all the winged eyeliner and falsies in tbe world aren't gonna help. She looks like those bonebags in the wannarecic thread.
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Just like Kiki that her big revelation after all these years is that there's absolutely nothing wrong with her and she's just amazingly awesome.
As someone who has read the Attached book more than once, and done the exercises it gives (not sure how you'd do the exercises via audio book): she has completely missed the point of the book, and of attachment types.
The book exists to help you find you your own attachment type, and what types of people you should seek to befriend and start relationships based on that attachment type. The goal is to become a balanced person who doesn't HAVE a skewed attachment type - but it gives you an idea of how to seek out healthy relationships when you might not be 100% healthy.
The book gives three attachment types: anxious, secure, and avoidant. The anxious are attracted to the avoidant, and vice versa. The goal is for the anxious and avoidant to seek out more secure persons, and learn how to adjust their behavior to normal based on therapy and having relationships with securely attached persons.
What I got from listening to Kirsten wild eyed rant is that all avoidants are WRONG and SHE isn't BROKEN. Nothing is wrong with her exactly as she is!
Which is absolutely not what the book says. It asks you to knowledge how you behave in a bunch of situations; classify yourself as anxious, avoidant, or secure, and to what degree; and then suggests how to not act out bad behavior patterns by seeking out more appropriate people.
This girl fucked.
Yeah but that's what I mean though. Therapy can help some people but she's not really doing that, she's doing the self help thing and diagnosing herself and going over old shit. I don't think I've heard her once say she is speaking to someone like a psychologist, counsellor or therapist, it's all links to articles are exercises she's 'read' about.
I wasn't saying she doesn't need ACTUAL therapy, I was saying that she needs to stop reading and giving herself labels and revisiting the past. If you read any of her old posts or watch her last few videos, it's all just her rabbiting on about her rape and trauma. I believe it's opening up old wounds that need closure. Like its all just revisiting shit and putting labels on everything.
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Googling cillian murphy to the right, trying to show that she talks to actual humans to the left, and pretending she looks like center.
Not pictured: her open lolcow tab
Wait, did she finally cut her bangs?
The way she talks is very disconcerting… she sounds more ill than ever imo, kind of scary. I tried uploading noted clips of the video but it won’t let me.
If anons want to watch without ig, you can also view the clips here: https://ingramer.com/tools/instagram-igtv-downloader/
just type mmmkikikannibal in the bar.
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I am surprised she isnt trying to get tiktok famous.
Unless she find something to talk about besides animal torture, rape and entertainment industry predators then nobody is gonna give a fuck.
She's almost 30, she needs to go back to school or curate an actual hobby that isn't solely for the sake of her precious fake empath persona.
What kills me is that she tries so hard to be relatable, and to play off her craziness as normal-crazy, like when she says:
>when I see a hotti bugatti, I do risky things (like ride motorcycles with guys or drive crazy, can't rlly tell with her) >nothing about being a user, starfucker, wannabe star with no career who cries rape every time she feels bad
Yet she's filtered to hell, full face made up & in her underwear with no bra, talking about dates and sex acting like she's trying to find herself still
instead of cockhopping around "LA" until she becomes Taylor 2.0.
It's kind of entertaining when cows like this are so out of touch with the present or have such an inflated ego that they don't understand that they can't just decide to return to youtube to earn money whenever they want and be successful at it. They don't understand they just lucked out to be able to make some money from the internet once for their 15 minutes of fame. Today's internet is not the same, people cannot fixate on anything or anyone for long anymore, or you have to be lucky with the algorithms. They need to accept that their time is over and that they need to progress in life off of the internet.
Judging by her recent posts she has made no progress at all with her mental health or anything else.
She had her shot as a teenager, when she was a Myspace queen before Dakota went viral, but she wasted it trying to play the victim
after chasing predatory band creeps and getting pump & dumped.
She played the baddie until it got real, then she switched to playing the victim
& crying rape on everyone
. Now she's permanently defined as a flake and a fake with a creepily overbearing trashy family, and everything she's done (or refused to do) since then has cemented that as her image for life. It literally doesn't matter how pretty she is, where she goes or who she fucks for clout now, because everyone knows that's all her life is
now. Desperately trying to claw her way back to internet relevance and favor.
Adding to this, she was a tough, sexy trendsetter baddie until Danny's family tried to sue her family for their role in instigating his death, then she became the permanent victim
she is now & called him a rapist after spending weeks online bragging about him and his dick.
>>793024>I can almost not get over that she actually finally got bangs
I fucking know, right?! Even if they are the slightest face framing bangs. Already they do her forehead so many favours.
It seems like such a dumb and petty thing now but fuck, we were harping on about her cutting her bangs for years haha.
This is how I see her more than just being fake, I think she's legitimately nuts and doesn't really understand what she's doing/saying. When you consider what she did as sperg-chan, her love of animal gore, these manic rambles, and her constant self-victimization, the only answer is significant mental health issues. She's totally lost the plot. Please, please seek help Kiki, it doesn't always have to be this way.
Plus, in today's youtube environment people LOVE a good mental health story time. Seriously Kiki, if anything could ever make you popular again this would be it.
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Exactly, Kiki is truly bonkers and not in a funny way. Her audience is already extremely small so I doubt you even need the sperg-chan context to sniff out that she’s got serious issues, otherwise more than a handful of people would be paying attention to her weird vanity rant videos where she bulges her eyes and talks in that dumb pseudo-accent. She’s uploading more and all of the clips are strange and embarrassing to watch. But hey, at least she’s finally changing her shirt.
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Just checked her profile because of this post and I can safely say she's still bonkers
>Your life is a movie and you're the main protagonist.
Unironically making this statement is all I need to know. She hasn't changed a bit kek.
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Her mannerism reminds me of the girls on tik tok who are always in and out of psych wards and doing ketamine on the regular
Plus, wtf is that caption.
She changed the caption, it was something about not wanting a handkerchief to mess up the background of her “zoom call” >>793549
She’s obviously got assburgers but we can’t armchair
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I'd pay to see how Kiki acts on a date with a guy with a little money. If she's this cringey just talking to her webcam, imagine her egotistical humblebragging after landing a date with what she thinks is a potential SD. My guess is every guy she falls for & gets comfortable with ends up being scared off by her behavior.
But, she really did seem to be doing better in LA when she was working on acting- she had friends, even. What happened, other than she and Bobby broke up? She moved back home & now this is literally all she can do with her time?
If she were in LA, she would at least be tsking selfies in fancy stores and restaurants by herself, or tagging pics of tourist spots. I doubt she's in LA and
doing nothing, she's a narc but she loves attention as much as she likes staring at herself.
Is there ever going to be a thread for her again? >>793570
Not necessarily true, she’s extremely paranoid but yeah wouldn’t be surprised if she was in FL doing these weird videos where she pretends she’s famous and saying things people actually want to hear because she’s got nothing else to do. That hotty bugatti mermaid video was truly her cringiest of all time, I’m in awe at 2020s small gifts.
Not unless Kota actually does something milky. Which she hasn't for years, not since the whole cancer lie. Her thread was basically anons arguing on whether she's married or whoring to get by living in Japan.
What do their parents do to be able to fund their kids?
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Her ig story. She needs professional help, not all the yes-man from her parents or the dismissive phone calls with her sister, she’s way too old to still be coping like this. She parallels queen PT minus the odor.
Years back, Scott had some sort of IT business and a bunch of loans.
Cathy didn't work unless you count filing those hundreds of takedown notices for Kiki and Kota.
Oh no no no no…
Is she going to actual therapy?
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She’s letting you know in her recent anon, it’s a holistic
psychologist, ahem hem. She’s healing, you jelly hooknosed fatty!>>793761
She wears too much white, we’d see the yellow pit stains.
I mean… We been known >>793859
Watch her drop everything if she doesn't go viral with this dumbass title
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She is delusional and psychotic and this is literally just her roleplaying like she’s being interviewed in one big long rant of pageantry fluff! Holy fuck I don’t remember it being this bad.
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This is so random, she usually unveils these short bursts of mania when Kota is doing something. I wonder how she feels about Kota being thinner than her now? Pic related, a little over a week ago and unedited.
It’s way worse with Kiki because at least Brit went through a ton of hardship and is genuinely a sweet but misguided woman—Kiki dreams of being that kind of victim
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"my sex coach sounds just like you" - ofc she does
Adding to this, looks like Kiki's clmeback is triggered
by Dakota pulling another work visa reup- she just took a 4 month hiatus from her social media while she was supposed to be working for Fila. Oh, and she's wearing her dad's fugly pentagram & the D charm her family sent her.>>793916
It must burn Dakota that despite being a model in Japan, nobody gives a fuck about her ugly ass anymore because she only
looks good under 50 pounds of filters and shoop. The few decent jobs she can manage to get use her as little as possible and highlight how much she sticks out from their demographic, which is why she has to get so many smallfry IG collabs.
I just think it's a little too
funny that kota WK posts suddenly pop up in Kiki's thread as she makes a comeback. Kota obviously still lurks, is still jealous despite "winning" the sibling competition. Even if Kota is happily married in Japan, working steadily and laying low she can't resist coming back, she still will always want as much attention as her sister gets, and vice versa.
I doubt Dakota is thinner than Kiki. Kiki is wannarexic, and Dakota has a bulkier body type than her sister and is shorter as well, plus Kiki is slender whereas Dakota doesn't have ankles or a natural waist…
I can make a Dakota containment thread, but can someone tell me how to link to other threads?
>>793990>pics and info only she would have otherwise https://www.instagram.com/p/CEEBSKHDn1K/?igshid=cc276osmhmk4
It’s in her tagged on ig you lunatic. Sugar connection
? Not you again. She’s out here looking like a christmas cake with smoker lines and a fresh dyke cut and you think she’s an escort? Jfc >>793993
I’m a longtime lc user, and all I was saying that Kiki’s popups always coincide with her perceiving that Kooter is doing something better than she is. Do we really need to start in on the hi kota
shit for stating the obvious? Relax.
That's hilarious, that photog shot Vivi as well and seems to be for hire through DMs. This all looks like Dakota trying to come back and be relevant to lolcow just bc Kiki is, trying to network using over 5 year old tags she previously hid from her page? She's transparent.
Also, not for nothing, but Lescorts are a thing even in Japan.
Yeah, I just happened to check on her after the new kiki madness. I used to just scroll her thread occasionally because it always had all the updates, but now that it’s maxed I’ve had to occasionally look in on her ig since I don’t have the knack for finding things like other anons. That pic and this one (the third pic in the set, not posting a screenshot because I really don’t want to deal with bitching about kooter derailing) https://www.instagram.com/p/CEc851gDl2z/?igshid=ln8e2fn2kcm9
just made me notice that she’s legitimately thin now, was only wondering if it’s triggered
kiki’s inferiority complex. It’s always been a pattern of kiki’s, anyway.>>794008
Oh yeah of course, but she’s not very pretty and her lifestyle isn’t even like bare minimum extravagant enough for me to believe she’s pimping herself to pay for rent. Sounds insane.
Yeah Dakota lost a lot of weight and is embracing a dyke look.
She's not living Taylor R's wealthy life but she had a gig with Fila going on, so it probably triggered
Kiki, because what she has now are some bangs and not being a size zero anymore, since she got a pouch-y belly https://www.instagram.com/p/CEf6TLADVXu/?igshid=zsg0kij4ia2u
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Any anon up for making a new containment thread?
To speculate, we don’t even know if it’s past
behavior. Given how much she obviously loved posting on lolcow before, for all we know she still does but now she knows to clear her cookies. She’s had plenty of time to integrate and adapt, on top of this she’s just as isolated as before if not more so she has all the time to indulge. It’s also scary that she’s, what, 27 or older now and she’s creating videos like the one just upthread/ the recents on her ig. She genuinely thinks she’s a pseudocelebrity and she’s peddling all of that delusional crap to the only meager audience she has. She herself said that her and her sister “laugh” at lolcow while “eating vegan pizza.” She’ll never listen to anyone’s criticisms no matter how valid
, and at this point it’s so pathetic that I feel like I’m laughing less and just pitying her now.
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She just stares at herself the whole tome and puts so much painstaking effort into trying pose herself to make people think she’s attractive, it’s uncanny. Like she just tries so
hard and she still fails.
Her problem is trying so hard to present herself without therr actually being anything to present, except… a human body. She doesn't do
anything besides admire herself, make herself laugh and tell herself she forgives herself for being so hard on her (younger) self.
She looks surprisingly beautiful and this is a nitpick but I'm not sure why she still hasn't tried a different fringe style, I have a large forehead and have been told I look like I'm balding but once I started sideparting it or trimming them I haven't got comments like that.
Even though she's such a huge bitch this… was so uncomfortable and slow to watch and I feel concerned for her now. The way she's expressing her thoughts 1000% sounds like a disjointed psychotic episode.
From the tiny bits where I could understand what she's trying to say it seems like PTSD causes her severe dissociation but she's using culty psychotic bullshit to express it and seems to think everyone feels this way.
She really needs serious actual medical therapy for the childhood trauma, not people validating her delusions.
I can tell she was dead serious when she said she's jesus or some shit and that scares me tbh.
I'm sure you're lurking spergchan, if you want internet relevance and following for expressing delusions just become a twitter schiczoposter. They'll praise you for this shit and encourage harassing anyone that thinks even slightly differently to them.
According to her IMDB she was in a Movie called Vampire Dad in 2020. She isnt listed on the Movies IMDB site though. Havent had the time to watch it, yet. >>794149
To be honest i can see how getting so much shit on the Internet could be traumatizing.
the hand holding the backpack looks scary.
kiki sounds like every failed actress in LA. this is such basic bitch southern california yammer, you hear it at yoga class while everyone’s packing up their shit. but i love the impersonations. she should take more improv. covid has brought all the greats back to us.
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It’s ok Keekz, you’ve given us more than enough to drink this week
Not that anon but I think being brought up by Cathy/Scott is enough PTSD on its own.>>794146> She really needs serious actual medical therapy for the childhood trauma, not people validating her delusions.
True AF, but therapists will probably call her out on being a narcissist and she'll drop it and film a video online about how therapists are wrong and aren't good enough to deal with her trauma
> I can tell she was dead serious when she said she's jesus or some shit and that scares me tbh.
YES. One thing is "no, you take the wheel, take charge of your life" another thing is "YOU'RE JESUS". Like, no you're not. Shit happens, move on, don't become spergchan.
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She’s probably hurting for views lol. I’m assuming this one was an accident?
Holy shit lol yeah, it's a fuck up, it's the same video but it's all stretched out
But yeah, also her videos started being recommended to me after I watched the last one, so maybe she finally is trying to make the algorithm cooperate, instead of trying to restart over and over
Kirsten's parents are creepy. They pretty much lived through her and let her do so many inappropriate things back then (the piercings on their own probably weren't inappropriate, but the rest of it was). They're the ones who traumatised her and set her up for the things she went through afterwards (abusive
relationships and all the rest). It angers me because she could have been mentally okay if she didn't go through all of that. We're roughly the same age and watching this (including her new videos) now from an adult's perspective is fucked up. It's like she keeps going over and over what happened to her and completely misses the point which is that everything up to a certain point is her family's fault.
She was raised on this brainwash tho, she’ll never change. Her entire life her parents set her up to think she’s better than others, bound for stardom, and forever a victim
. They encouraged their daughters to put themselves before everyone and live like they’re undiscovered celebrities. Its a shame because had they directed their devotion to their daughters in a more productive manner, Kiki and Dakota could’ve had a really good upbringing—but they didn’t. They made them believe they were perfect and that everyone else was jealous, taught them to combat everyone online, and let them indulge in whatever stupid whim or obsession they wanted. They probably view themselves as the Kardashians or something.
I feel like Kiki's obsession with finding a man is just wanting to get out of her parent's house and away from them. When she was in LA with Bobby and working on acting she had real human friends and a life, but now she's back to being a regular Ostrenga. I think on some level Kiki knows she needs to get away from them, but also that she can't function on her own either thanks to them. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones who got her on disability just to add to the delusion that she's a delicate Rapunzel who needs protection, and thus needs them. I feel like, even if Kiki did meet an amazing guy who did really love her and spoil her, that Scott and Cathy would still maybe try to have an unhealthy role in her life. Dakota being in Japan behind the language barrier protects her from their reach pretty well, and she seems to be able to scrape by with the help of friends, but Kiki will never have that until she's either dependent on someone else Venus-style, or miraculously becomes independent herself (which I don't see happening, she seems like the type to sit in an empty room alone spinning in her toxic
thoughts with nothing to distract her from her psychosis. I can't imagine her living on her own).
I can imagine this is the main reason why she became Spergchan when Taylor revealed Tom, she got exactly what Kiki wanted- rich, ephebophile Asian husband interested in infantilizing her and keeping her young looking while buying her a fake career. >>794409
I think Kiki's present day interpretation of rape is more like "I feel icky about what I did back then" than "I was coerced by predators & didn't know better". She absolutely knew the guys she was trying to cloutchase were all fuckboi creeps, and so did everyone else even then, so unless she was coerced/raped then the only logical explanation is cloutchasing, which Kiki would never admit to willingly.
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Kiki story I
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Kiki story II. Did this one happen the way she says or is it another one of her endless fibs?
Maybe, though. Knowing she needs to get away from her parents and be independent doesn't mean she's willing to provide it for herself, hence her bejanked celebrity housewife life goals.
And she absolutely knows how far behind and fucked she is, or else she wouldn't still
be pretending to be a fallen celebrity interesting enough to post endless vauge selfspeak at her age.
Another lie. Kiki leaked her own nudes after getting called anorexic and flat chested. Also, she obviously made this "Karen" meme herself.
This is the proof in the pudding, Kirsten, you retatded cunt: a real empath wouldn't still
be so bitter amd resentful that other girls were mean to her 10+ years ago on Myspace. Yet, here she is, posting ancient fake news with one of her former enemies' faces on it just to stir up shit & hope people notice her again. Truly pathetic, after over a literal decade of crusading against internet bullying. Typical Ostrenga lack of self awareness.
This is a very serious accusation, to be thrown around like that.
This and the being raped in January: she can fuck off. I'm usually all for believing the victim
but I'll open an exception for Kiki.
I wonder if the Ostrengas/this girl she posted realize this is a crime. Unless Kiki has proof of what she's claiming, that scene girl could sue her lying ass for defamation. Not only is this obviously a lie, but she went through the trouble to make a meme using a pic of someone she knew in a derogatory manner and
accused them of collecting and posting her underaged nudes (with no proof, or else she would have taken it to court and penned an article about it).
Pettiness and spite will always ruin you, Kirsten. No matter what.
If even half her claims were true, then what's her problem? She only goes after rapists? She walks alone with them down dark alleyways at night with no phone or weapon? She had zero issues posessing multiple illegal
self defense weapons in Japan "for creepers".
It gets to a point where it's like… okay, Kiki, either you're doing something horribly
wrong each time, or you just have shit taste in men, get dumped, and keep lying about it.
This meme is actually quite old (way back in 2019), even. She's not that invested, she just can't help playing the victim
This is still a massive lie though, and I hope she gets sued for defamation.
Right? I know rape isn't the victim
's fault, but after a certain point you have to be ignoring some very obvious signs. Nobody outside of human trafficking is "raped" as much as Kiki, jfc.
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I totally agree. She's been looking for the "knight in shining armour" who will come and save her, give her the love she never had from her family and acceptance she never had at school/success career-wise. I think she's searching for a man who will look after her in that case, rather than someone who she can have a normal relationship with.
She needs help from professionals to function on a basic level. People who function normally do not keep getting back with the same types of shitty people who caused their traumas in the first place. If I were in her position, I would not be going near dating at all and would instead focus on finding acquaintances, who could then turn into friends, so I could get to know whether they're safe to be around. Something's gone wrong where she's learned that she can't save herself and needs someone else to do it for her. She even mentioned in her new YouTube video that she pretends she's already in a loving relationship to attract or manifest one or whatever. That way of thinking reinforces to herself and everyone around her that she can't cope without a man.
I hope they didn't force her to be on disability; I hope it's just a way for her to get the time and space to heal before going back to work. There's no way she'll heal if she's living with them again. Totally, I think they'd even sabotage her relationship if they found out. I wonder if Dakota's plan was to do what she did all along just to get as far away as possible from them and start over?
Anyway, Kiki needs to date someone she becomes good friends with, not random people she has no clue about. Part of me thinks she has no patience for that though because she's so desperate to latch onto someone.
>>794483>People who function normally do not keep getting back with the same types of shitty people who caused their traumas in the first place.
Kiki keeps reliving the same drama because she never learns the lesson: stop being so toxically codependent, get a job/source of STEADY income that doesn't rely on feeding her narcisissm, and don't worry about dating until you straighten out and make some real friends. Oh, and either admit to something juicy or stop with the endless "forgive yourself for the past" BS unless you have massive guilt over something you did back then, in which case come clean or forever suffer. >>794486
Yep. Kiki always wants to seem like the rule-breaking baddie, but it backfires bc the only rules she breaks are ones sensible people don't. A guy who is gonna take you to a rooftop at 1am for a massage on a first date is a fuckboi who definitely isn't trying to stick around. I hate to be "that girl" but maybe Kiki needs to try celibate dating, she seems like the type who thinks her pussy is magic & is always so hilariously flabbergasted when the guys she fucks off rip end up abandoning her.
She popped up back in LA the same time Kota popped back up in Japan, before that they both went silent after March when Covid took off. Florida and California are major hotspots, and much of LA is shut down, so unless she's living there alone (highly doubt it) then all she's doing is physically being in LA, which to a cloutchasing thot must seem like exactly enough to find a rich husband. The type of guys Kiki lusts after could spot her crazy from 50 miles and more than likely have swerved her hard. I can vividly see her making a cringey profile on seekingarrangement, then just sitting in her room waiting for messages, staring into her webcam.
I wonder if her therapist keeps telling her nothing is her fault? Sometimes they do that so they don't appear to be victim
-blaming. While it's not her fault that she was abused, she CAN stay away from creepy men now that she's learned what people can be like. She does have control over that, especially if she is in fact on disability and doesn't need to go to work yet, etc.
Totally, the steady income thing. She gets way ahead of herself with massive dreams rather than focusing on, "I just need to get a job to start with, any regular job." She needs to go back to basics and then build on those.
I don't get why she doesn't realise that. Going to a rooftop with someone alone at 1am so they can touch you? When she's about to be a 28 year old adult and is an abuse survivor? Her MySpace ex literally fell off of a rooftop. She keeps repeating everything in a twisted cycle.
They might have gone back to Florida temporarily back in March then, when travel was about to be severely restricted. It's probably better if she's actually living alone in LA with psychological help because at least that way she doesn't have her parents traumatising her further. She needs to not resort to seekingarrangement because that's going to drag her back into the same cycle of weird, predatory men. Any retail or cafe job would be good for her so she can learn how to communicate with different people at a distance and not get instantly involved.
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I think her family possibly moved to LA when she started her acting. The previously assumed notion was that she moved in with Bobby, but they broke up & she's still in that same bedroom with the wood floors. I tried going back through her old pics to compare her for-sure FL bedroom with the current one, but she baleeted all of them except closeups of the pets.
That's another thing- her pets are with her. Are we to believe she brought her whole life to LA to live with a BF, then stayed after he dumped her? Nah, but I can see them selling Sandra's paid-off house and moving to an LA suburb for one last ditch attempt to get Kiki to do something with her life or meet someone.
Also, bit of a gold nugget: Kiki went back and edited most of her captions, but left this one. k e k
>>794483>She needs help from professionals to function on a basic level.
I think she's had that help, but hit a wall because she's got that emotional poltergeist always on her back. She can preach about forgiveness and hesling until the day she dies, but if she also continues to insist she never did anything wrong (Sperg-chan, attacking herself w/ blaming others, harassing other scene girls on cam, endless animal goreporn, her&fam causing Danny's death via entrapment then denying the relwtiknship to cry rape, sealing the records out of guilt bc Cathy collecting condoms & letting him live there means no way they were protecting her, sending nudes to Johnny Craig then trying to play the victim
when she herself admits he was a known predator before that, oh how the list does go on.
Kiki will never heal from being Kiki, because of how much of that past she buries or outright lies about to save face after the fact.
She’ll never be honest about what she’s done and she will lie to any and every mental health professional to make herself look like a martyr. >>794494
Cramming as many phrases she thinks are “witty” in one caption as possible to try to sound like a quirky and intelligent talk show/ podcast host and instead sounding like schizo word salad.
Seems plausible. Also, that's definitely not her room in Florida. It's definitely the same place she was in with Bobby in LA like you said. Whether she's with her parents or not is what I can't figure out. I don't know where her older brother is either.
I agree, I doubt she did that, but then again it's her. I dunno, I honestly think Scott could still have that house in Florida as well as the apartment in LA, meaning they were able to send Kirsten there to stay on her own. Also she's had so many cats I've lost track.>>794499
It's not like she'll ever admit that she did those things, even though she did. She traumatises not only others but herself with the animal gore stuff. She could just be vegan, keep pets and do actual charity work instead of plastering that shit all over Twitter. What normal person wants to look at that? That kinda shit makes me depressed.
>>794519>It's not like she'll ever admit that she did those things, even though she did.
That's what makes Kiki a true lolcow. She preaches forgiveness and accountability, but holds grudges against "haters" for not letting her bury her shitty, abusive
past behavior to this day while screeching that she should be forgiven for all her
past sins. That's why she'll be stuck and spinning forever, trying to find a new man to get her out of her parent's house.
During the eclipse, she posted that it wasn't visible from LA or FL, it coild be possible that Scott took an IT job in LA and Cathy and Kyler stayed in FL. >>794516
That was when Kota went home for New Years, which kinda makes me think she would have wanted to spend her time with her sister? but instead this "rape" happened & they both stopped posting until March when Dakota was back in JP.
I think "rape" is a Kiki coverword for "a social/life event happened for someone else that I wanted for myself, now I need a reason to be depressed and coddled for notnsoing shit in life".
Yep. She experienced abuse, but the mistake from her was abusing some people or at the very least bullying them in return (this could be explained as reactive abuse, though). She frequently bullied people who had nothing to do with her past which shows which path she went down. She can't continue to be nasty to people in the present moment due to her past. The way she's been speaking in her new videos is alarming. Like she's unhinged.>>794522
Their whole family dynamic is weird and it creeps me out. But yeah, possible.
AYRT, yes. She skipped over "taking accountability & apologizing for your past actions" and tried to cover it with "forgive yourself & be strong enough to forgive others", which is why she's not making any real progress. She skipped "I was hurt and lashed out at (specific people) by (X, Y and Z), but now I know that was wrong and I'm truly sorry!", the most crucial step. Until she faces the truth about Sperg-chan, using Danny & getting him killed for attention, and chasing known abusers then crying rape. Although, now the lies run so deep, I don't think Kiki believes she can
admit to them and still be considered a good person, but that's not true at all. Lying and hiding the truth is what's making her sick, not her past trauma- but the way she still tries to control how people perceive her, the wrong way. She's too disingenuous.
Totally. She just needs to make one video addressing all of that and then it's over. I feel like that would get HEAPS of views. But she'll never do it because she'll be hated. Seeing as cancel culture is now a thing, she'd be cancelled straight away.
Dropping "Kiki Kannibal" needs to happen, but she went back to that persona. Not to armchair diagnose if you know what I mean, but how many personas has she had? Kirsten Leigh Ostrenga, Kirsten Leigh, Kirsten Ostrenga, Kiki Leigh, Kiki Kannibal, Kiki Mimieux, Kira Kira, Lilou Vos… That's some level of dissociation. She does, she's always trying to control how people see her. It's pretty bad.>>794534
I can't figure it out then. I'm from a small country so my perception of the US is a bit warped. Just realised it's a 5.5 hour drive from Sunnyvale to LA, oops. I think she's in LA on her own and that Scott bought her apartment and stays in Florida with the rest of the family.
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If there’s one skill she does have, it’s concealing that toucan beak seamlessly
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>>794516>You're not codependent, addicted, or broken
So I went to Goodreads to see what's up with the book she mentions and, there's a lot of 5 stars but also bad reviews saying stuff like:
> "I'm convinced that all the 5 star reviews must be from anxiously attached people because this book offers nothing for anyone else lol."> "Do not read this book. It may be comforting for someone to affirm that being needy or aloof is just your attachment style, but you're doing yourself a disservice"
So yeah. Sounds like Kiki.
I am not the girl , jaime , in the pic but I did date the now convicted murderer shes talking about. He cheated on me with both of them. It's funny shes trying to act the victim
when she had a consensual fling with him and willingly showed her tits on stickam back in the day
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(Ok I know it's anon, can be anyone, but I'll bite) holy shit! but I don't put this kind of thing past Kiki
On another note, she posted a story saying she found her "old amp" so, I guess she's back in FL? The LA rooftop fanfic could've been an old pic idk.
And… Yeah, she's a cowboy now
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She posted a video doing sexy then "funny" faces during the music. 2007 humor.
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Like, you know… The "funny face" basic girls like to make
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And then she posted this. Probably from >>795416
And a bunch of photos of the two actors she's always comparing her and Kota too.
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This is the guy, his name is sean lovins. Him and jamie are from Jacksonville fl. Kiki gave him this necklace when he drove down to see her. They had a falling out I guess over something and kiki made a fake profile of jaime and messaged me on myspace asking for his address for whatever reason it was weird. He probably did show her nudes to people out of spite but she willingly sent them and also flashed her webcam on stickam when she was a minor herself so I'm not sure why shes acting like he showed the world something they havent already seen before lol
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Once a cow always a cow. I love how that’s supposed to be the photo that shows that they look like each other when Kaka is the uglier one, still trying to piggyback off of her little sister.
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Kiki’s story, this is the Laduree in Beverly Hills. This must’ve really made her grifter hillbilly ass feel bouj.
I think it's even worse, bc Kota's shopped, so Kiki probably feels super special. Also, the caption is kind of a jab since Matthew McConaughey is more good looking than Woody Harrelson lol>>795579
I knew it from the moment she took a pic of a $8 macaron
She has several shirts in similar styles that are like the ruffle shirt from Seinfeld. Even with as many as she has it looks like she only has and wears 5 shirts for such a rich LA princess. It's weird she's only wearing the white and trying to look so pure and angelic when she used to wear black and studs. Lolcow said she looked like a weird BDSM dominatrix all the time. >>795582
Isn't that kind of backwards too since Woody's older than Matthew? She seems weirdly fixated on this now to the point of just discovering his filmography lol. I know she made this reference before on Kota's birthday years ago but she seems really bent on making it happen now and emphasizing that she's related to her. Kota barely acknowledges her on the internet.
I’m not talking about stories. You can view her story without her even knowing. I’m talking about on her feed. She shelfed the selfie she took recently and before that it’s just a long line of retarded videos.>>795792
Woody is almost ten years older than him. She’s just not funny and lacks any sort of awareness for referential humor that isn’t at least a decade old. Idk why she tries to fancy herself and her sister as some 50+ year old slapstick stoner men with lots of money, there’s no parallels whatsoever except that they have all gone to seed.>cheeky kiki
her humor literally just sounds like old men when they try to groom younger women it’s kind of bizarre
She does claim she was groomed online during her scene years. Problem with that is, her dad is/was tech savvy enough to monitor her shit- and her parents were, even. They just didn't care because the creeps were popular or in the music industry, which was Scott's dream job.
I wonder if Cathy ever dreamed about being a model? Maybe that's why both Kiki and Kota's lives have been centered around those two industries?
I think Scott and Cath really thought that their daughters were going to be the perfect cash cows. Remember when charms said Scott kept trying to sell her old merch and jewelry that was gathering dust and Kota was really embarrassed? I think they had a completely different idea of what was going to happen. It’s clear that the way they were raised is still deeply, deeply imbedded in Kiki at least. Instead of just becoming a regular account that posts things people would enjoy seeing (a good meal, a favorite skincare product, a fun outing, actual engagement instead of just talking at
people, etc.) everything she does is postured to make her act like she’s famous when she isn’t and never will be. She poses too carefully to look more attractive and it’s really off plus people know what her real face looks like, she talks like she thinks she’s a celebrity guru and that people really need to hear what she has to say, and everything she posts is just another tryhard turd that she keeps throwing at the wall in hopes one will eventually stick. She behaves like she’s trying to monetize everything she does instead of acting like a regular fucking person. The fact that she still does this pushing 30 is so Baby Jane that it’s embarrassing.
> everything she does is postured to make her act like she’s famous
I think that's intentional. In her latest video she did pull up some law of attraction shit, where you have it in your mind that you already have the thing you want, next step is you have to act like it (she didn't say this second part in the video, but that's what this whole shtick is about) and it'll come to you. So I guess that's what she's doing…?
Fake it till you make it, and all that stuff.
Didn't she used to preach about Manifestation too? That's all that is, beleiving it until it becomes true, speaking it into being, etc. It won't ever work for Kiki though, because she won't do
anything, and she can't understand that she can't just fake it till she makes it with something like "being a genuinely interesting and likable human". She's too obviously shallow and self-worshipping for that.
Something to focus on that's not centered around looking at herself like modeling or acting, too. Something like jewelry making or art, anything where she
is not in front of a camera.
Otherwise, she'll just keep feeding her own narcissism by staring at herself through filtered pics like some fucked up Ostrenga-bouros.
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Ahh, nostalgia. Someone shoop Kota into sailor Mercury.
Sailor Uranus, the major sailor dyke lmao ironic>>795910
I remember that she was moderately successful when she decided to do makeup tutorials, she was getting +50k views. She could've a nice following by now if she didn't drop it right away.
But again, maybe her narcissism got in her way and she thought she deserved millions of views.
Nah, not even that would get her as much attention as she craves (for as little work as she expects to do).
I reckon she did it right after Dakota went viral with the KotaKoti persona, she probably expected the same amount of attention (if not more)
I doubt it, unless Cathy or Kota woild have been willing to be her shop slave, making and shipping everything while Kiki plasters her face all over the site and apends the money on herself.
The reason Kiki never became anything with all the help in the world isn't because she's lazy, it's because she's delulu, self centered and thinks she shouldn't have to do real work.
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Today’s story features when she peaked
She said she got addicted to cortisol which is why she stayed with someone abusive
Holy shit read a fucking book kiki. That is not how cortisol works.
Yes that'd be… Adrenaline.
I'm in the part where she says she's allergic to latex and has a reaction when she uses condoms, so that's why she's tempted to not use protection.
I guess she doesn’t know there are condoms without latex…? At least in my country we have, since there are a lot of people with this kind of allergy.
This isn’t an excuse to not wear protection.
Wow, so all her problems are
self inflicted! She knowingly chases fame-hungry losers like herself who fuck around unprotected and pretends to not know about latex-free condoms (remember the box of condoms and lube she had shipped to Japan so she could fuck Fangophilia? She definitely knkws about safe sex), and jokes about catching a lifelong STD to be woth a guy who is an actor.
She's gonna end up like Syd, and tbqh given her history of poor sexual hygeine I wouldn't doubt she already has a lifelong STD.
Also, how crass that she is still gushing over someone she claims was abusive
just because he allegedly has a movie on Netflix. She's probably jealous of idiots like Lindsay Usich who wre in abusive
relationships with assholes just for the clout.
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Tan skin + blue eyes… + Lawyer + actor
something really set my mind on AIDS because she said he has to disclose he has it to partners and she says something along the lines that she thought it was okay nowadays, that no one dies from it anymore, there are medications, etc. But could've been anything else and she just played it up.
But makes sense she already might have something else.
I remember she got a STD when she was younger? She mentioned it in a stickam live, it was chlamydia I think.
If this didn't scare her away from unprotected sex, nothing will.
HIV/AIDS, HPV, Herpes, and Hepatitis C are incurable and can be caught from rawdogging.>>796482
Syphilis is curable.
Yeah, you were right. Could've been any.>>796484
I wouldn't be shocked if she thought "it's ok, I'm on meds"
Yeah checks out
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"no cap" ma'am you're 30
Interesting that her sense of humor is… exactly the same.>no cap
got insecure we said her humor is extremely dated and instead of sounding younger, she sounds even more like a 40 year old man trying to keep up with the times. Can this woman do anything right.
Guarantee Kiki wastes the rest of her 20s trying to relive her teens via nostalgiaposting, hoping to gain popularity for being "randumb". Everyone has seen it, Kiki, and there are funnier, cuter and younger girls doing it now
Fucking hell, I'm not being funny or anything, but she gives me major creepy vibes in both of her new YouTube videos, especially the second one.
So, as soon as this guy she met told her he could kill her without anyone knowing, she didn't run the fuck away? Is there something seriously, and I mean seriously wrong with her? She's been through stuff like this before. I've been through a bunch of traumas and even I would run for my life if anyone said anything remotely similar to that. Does she not realise that all it takes is meeting people in public and not getting into bed with them in their fucking homes to stop getting into these situations?
I'm starting to think she likes the feeling of being abused. S&M comes to mind. It's a different kind of fucked up at this point. Her issue is that she WANTS to be the victim and she enjoys being treated badly.
What is she talking about, playing along with the abuser? You might do that the first time, second time, max. third time to protect yourself, but after that, especially after going to therapy, you'd fucking get help to go home and lock your door.
She's addicted to the chemicals that go around her brain after someone tells her they're going to kill her?! Where are her parents? She needs to admit herself to a psychiatric hospital, or at least some kind of outpatient programme. She's pretty much admitted she's addicted to being abused and this is a severe problem. It's like she's so far gone she actually seeks it out on her own instead of running in the other direction. I don't even know how to begin explaining that, because a normal response is to want to be treated kindly and with respect, and to be genuinely loved. Her parents abused her and they started this off. Where even are they right now? I'm done.
PS I had been watching her for years and genuinely believed she was a victim
, and that I could relate to her. The reality is that she's in the same category of creeps that normal people try to get away from.
Just adding more, but she keeps trying to get with high-profile men who are more likely to have narcissistic tendencies (actors might want all the attention on them, but obviously it doesn't guarantee narcissism - just makes it more likely). Sorry, but half the shit she goes through wouldn't happen if she talked to a bunch of "average" people and by that I mean people not trying to become famous. Would she get with a guy who works in an office, a builder, nurse, electrician, plumber, waiter, etc? Nah, they need to be famous because her standards are set ridiculously high and she's ruining her life because of it. She isn't suited to that life and needs to think like a normal person. Does she not want someone who she can connect with on an emotional level and live with? Then again, she might be in the right circle, because she's clearly surrounded by narcissists and is one herself.>>796566
yeah, it's so fucked up and creepy. Have you seen her creepy eyes in the video? She's unhinged. Never actually been terrified of her before until I saw this. Maybe she's projecting. Maybe she wants to kill people, so hangs around with people who talk about that. Who knows at this point.
Well, this blows all her rape-claim credibility out of the water for me. Being nice to predatory men and seducing them "to get away"? No, that's exactly backwards. Kiki only ends up a victim
because she chases after predators and then signals to them that she's into them, instead of clearly communicating her discomfort and leaving safely. What happened to all that "communication is key" shit she used to spew? She's literally saying that when she, a self proclaimed rape survivor who loves doling out safety and self care tips, has the chance to communicate clearly and walk away for her own safety she chooses not to bc of some thrill it gives her. That sounds so masochistic, and adding to that WHY then does she always go telling everyone she was raped afterward? Does she not realize that everything she says and does is starting to feel like she seeks out certain scenarios so she'll always be in the position of a pitiful victim
instead of a slutty bully like she was in her scene days? Because she's unintentionally contradicting herself with this video.
>>796562>You might do that the first time, second time, max. third time to protect yourself, but after that, especially after going to therapy, you'd fucking get help to go home and lock your door
I don't believe Kiki was ever in therapy, unless it was to get some bullshit PTSD diagnosis for her disability so she won't have to work. If she is, she's working her therapist and lying by omission or telling them what they want to hear, because the shit she keeps spewing is the total opposite of what a legit therapist would tell you to do and would say to you. A real therapist would have told her parents to keep her off the internet, get her a real hobby or a part time job, and stop dating until she stabilizes and has her own shit for herself, away from her parents and their influence.
Gonna add to this, I just had a thought after I submit: what if Kiki was
told by a shrink to get offline, but S&C still think she's an undiscovered starlet so they enable her? They have to be the ones paying for everything, they could easily cut her off from all her toxic triggers
and all the anon threads she reads about herself, but part of me wonders if they don't get skme sick thrill from prostituting their kids for so long? The way they handled Dakota going viral was disgusting, the way they handled the Danny drama was disgusting- everything feels like, no matter what really happenes, they want Kiki to be both adored and victimized instead of seen as an unstable NEET skank who won't do anything with her life.
Well, maybe that's why she's acting insane? Because she has no one to talk to besides weird men?>>796574
Lmao, she actually is. She always been copying someone. She literally has no personality of her own. But him, why? So fucking strange.>>796580
Probably not. Anyway, PTSD doesn't do this to someone. It's centred around avoidance, fear, etc. Someone with PTSD wouldn't repeat the same patterns this many times, they'd lock themselves away in their home before doing anything like it again. She's just a sadist. I mean even if a therapist told her to do that, she'd probably just switch therapists until she found an enabler.>>796581
I think they're enabling her to some extent. But she's in her late 20s so they can't have as much input as they did before. True about all that, imagine whoring your children out like that? The images Scott took of them… Fucking hell, makes me wanna boke.
She has no one to talk to because she chooses
to have no one to talk to. No one is good enough for her. Name a single friend she has actually had. It’s a choice.
>>796583>The images Scott took of them… Fucking hell, makes me wanna boke.
Yes. And it was always weird to me that the pics of young Kiki were sexy and risqué, but pics of kota were cute, edgy, and stylish. It's no wonder Kiki ended up the more fucked up one, she was sexualized the most early on while kota was just the chubby comic relief.
But Scott taking those pics, posing her and then putting them online, while homeschooling them and letting them be so wild and party at shows with predatory band guys… All the weird, creepy little things put together make me feel kinda bad for Kiki, she and kota really didn't have a chance at a healthy childhood because of their parents' creepy obsessions with their kids. The whole Ostrenga family dynamic seems very schizoid and creepy.>>796585
She wants friends to fill the kotakoti-void from when she went viral and moved away, but despite them being sisters and "BFFs" their dynamic was clearly unbalanced. Kiki was the scene queen, koti was the sidekick and I bet Kiki wants that again, to be in the spotlight with a bestie that she never has to compete with.
She can't decide if she wants to be
a creepy man or if she wants to fuck
a creepy man, so she goes for both and cries rape when she contradicts herself.
True. I think because Kiki was the skinny one back then and had more potential to be a model, so that's why her photos were more risqué. I think their parents caught onto that a bit more and exploited it. Dakota was definitely the cute one to begin with, but was self-conscious. I now wonder if that was due to comparing her weight with Kiki's like I originally thought or because she sensed her parents were acting like predators. Still fucked up though.
Yeah, I feel sorry for them too. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from their parents.
I don't think Dakota wants to be close to Kiki and knew from the get-go she needed to get away from her and her entire family, but keeps talking to her/them out of politeness. She probably knows she needs to keep the mental case at a distance. Totally, but Kiki's never gonna be in that position again. She only managed to because it was her little sister who didn't know any better. Now that everyone's an adult, that shit won't go down.
>>796566>she's like a lizard trying to wear human skin
That's exactly the vibe I'm getting. Hugely unsettling and I hate the thought of what this type of talk does to actual victims
Kaka is never going to top Dakota yet she keeps trying a new thing each year. They've both peaked, if you can even call it that, so so long ago.
"Stay healthy, stay safe, take care of yourself, protect yourself, have boundaries, and stick to your boundaries because people are going to push them. They always do and they always will. And no one's gonna save you but you. No one's gonna protect you, but you. When the sky is falling, is that person gonna be by your side with you? No. It's just you, and you have to weigh what you can handle by yourself…"
Fuck, she really needs to talk to some normal people. The fact she feels like no one is there for her speaks volumes. She thinks everyone is out to get her which isn't true. Imagine being this traumatised and paranoid. How can she assume that everyone will push her boundaries when she doesn't know everyone? What a generalisation. Not everyone will do that. Does she not want some friends before trying to jump to finding a husband? Also, she said it herself. Don't date actors. No shit. She needs to go back to Florida and be normal.
"have boundaries, and stick to your boundaries because people are going to push them"
yeah, like she did when an extra on a Netflix movie told her he could kill her. Also, it speaks volumes that she says "everyone" will do that. Does she include herself there? Her family? Does she respect other people's boundaries?>>796576
Sounds like she is Vanessa Hudgens in The Frozen Ground. "Seduce" them? Were you hitchhiking in the middle of the night, in the 70s, when a truck driver picked you up? That's movie shit.
Also, the entire "going after abusers because you were abused" thing happens a lot, but she said herself she went through that when she was 13. How did you not pick up you were acting like when you were 13?
I don't even think it's masochism, she just likes being abused so she can be a victim
. Like a munchie, but with abuse instead of illnesses.
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Holy shit, literally living through her peak time
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Right, so she wants to bring back MySpace where she met Mr MySpace AKA Danny Cespedes who supposedly abused her. She is into S&M, she really is. I don't know why she keeps referencing her scene phase besides the fact she's finding it impossible living in the present with all her traumas, or she's trying to make people think, "Look, I was once relevant!"
Can't she just change her style to alternative and shut up already? Like, just go to a salon and change her hairstyle, change her make-up and clothes, and done. It's like she's going, "I uSeD 2 B LiEk diS" every few days when no one gives a fuck about the past.
Why is she acting like she's still scene? She gave up on that shit for fairy elf goddessu-kei when kota went viral & never went back. This feels like she's trying to tease scene into coming back bc she thinks she'll have her old fans begging her to come back and be their kira kira scene queen again.
Problem is, nobody would go for that shit now- not the way they did it before. It's not cool to randomly be a cunt anymore, and people get burned out on fakes faster than ever.
Hilarious, considering how she dressed when she was in Japan for the Taku/Fangophilia drama- all black or all white ethereal bondage skank, complete with garters and harnesses and collars.
No joke though, I can see her being into sadistic shit and trying to normalize it/shrug it off way more than I can see her just being this painfully unaware.
she's def lying through her teeth. remember all the many lies she made up on twitter over the years about people asking if she was a model? or the time she claimed she dated an actor from cabin in the woods? she's desperate to recapture her childhood fame. she clings to kota desperately but koots doesn't seem to give her the time of day back. the time she was in japan we never even got pictures of them together. i think koots keeps her at a distance because she knows her famewhoring sister would try to fuck her way through everyone she knows.
it's probably too much of a compliment for her but she has a weird mulholland drive thing going on where there's the dream world in her head how she thinks it is and then there's the cold ugly reality.
NTA but> you’re worthless and you deserve to be in pain (…) might as well have fun with it
Sounds like a pretty masochistic mindset to me. >>796689
No one said you can't be raped under these circumstances.
I watched the whole thing, had to skip through her repeating herself. I'm into BDSM and tbh she really doesn't sound like she's into it, she wouldn't be able to victimize herself, since it's all consensual.
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dakota is irrelevant, a washed-up old hag by actual model standards, yet she's still "accomplished" more than kiki in recent years. lmao at kiki namedropping her on a recent post for some attempt at clout.
anyway damn is that real? lol ouch
Anyone remember timeline anon? We need her back to summarize with the new milk again.
From what I understand Taro/Fangophilia wouldn't have hooked up with her at random but may have expected some social media marketing out of her. Did she even get to keep the stuff she wore from him?>>796687
Doing gods work, anon.
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I know in my soul that this thumbnail made Kiki spiral into rage about Taylor copying her
She bought those finger claw rings from him when she was in Tokyo, because for PR he likes to meet his clients in person. She met up, hooked up with him, posted the jewelry in a ig post video tagging him, saying "thanks for giving this kitty her claws" or something like that. Later she apparently met up with him again, probably to discuss a custom order (he does that, meets with potential clients) and she likely just threw herself at him. She walked around in public in featherd, wings, stripper garb amd platforms with bondage harnesses and garters during this time, too. Soon after she posted pics and videos of him drunk and in bed with her, anons made the connection so she changed the caption on her ig video, removed the tag and topk down all the pics. She went from trying to cloutchase a guy who was trying to do his job to erasing him from her social media when she failed to woo him with her antics.
IIRC she may have also written something on his back or posted some other type of pic similar to the Jack Cash "i love kiki" bootycall pics, but it was years ago so I can't be sure.
i thought about that, but there's 3 problems
1. the CA location only showed scott, not cathy. and if you're wondering, it is him. full name, age and previous city all matched.
2. kiki's ebay location is still orlando, where her parents ship out her listings. she also went to visit them there when walmart anon took the pics.
3. it's most likely a one bedroom apartment given the prices in LA. and i seriously doubt all 4 of them could comfortably share one bedroom.
also remember one or two years ago when she said she was waiting on her "birthday money" to buy filming equipment, that shows she does rely solely on her dad's money for some things.
Different anon, but this is what I think is happening. Either that or Scott does actually live there with her, but I doubt it. It wouldn't make sense because I'm 99% sure Cathy still lives in Orlando with Kyler (unless he moved out), so them living separately doesn't make sense. I think he's just paying for it without living there and she's there on her own. It's not out of the question that he bought it for her either.>>796841
You're right. She's probably on disability and gets extra money from him. That would explain why she was able to spent time on student films without getting paid.
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Ok idk why it kinda reminded me of this old tweet of hers saying she "had" to turn down "almost" every job at the industry. It makes me wonder if she was ever actively looking for a 9-5 position in entertainment.
>>796836>nobody comes in here and accuses her of being an escort
Kaka isn't showing off the way escorts do. She seems barely mentally functioning, much less enough to be as an escort
Knowing her, she'd write on her clients backs with sharpies and instagram it.>>796869>try living on that in LA
Saying this while living on parent's money at her age kek
I agree wages for some roles are ridiculous, but she paid 5k to be in a Z-list horror movie. To be paid for her work is an upgrade.>>796876
I also didn't get her point. You look up "LA minimum wage in 2019", it's pretty much $12/hour. Kiki, a lot of people are living with it in LA.
I don’t think you’re Kiki, I meant suspicious as in sometimes it just sounds too vendetta. I think it’s weird that we’re automatically “defending” her by saying the tinfoils are just that and don’t hold any weight to them. You thinking she could be an escort isn’t the issue, it’s the way just a (I’m assuming) couple of anons continually talk in circles and have been for years. They bring nothing to the table, just beating the sugar baby meme into the ground so aggressively that it seems like a hyperfixation.
It’s not difficult at all to get a job or place to live in Japan when you’re fluent in Japanese btw
Oh, you know she absolutely does.
I wonder how much of "turning down an offer at a major co." is true. You'd have to have skills just to be interviewed.
She mentioned assistants being underpaid, I wonder if she ever applied to be an assistant in LA? Sounds like the kind of job she'd find to be beneath her.
It wouldn't make a difference if they split up. Cathy doesn't work and probably has to look after Kyler who is heavily autistic. Scott still has to provide for the whole brood. Plus I'm sure moving Kiki to LA was partially to make it seem like she finally got independent and is at least living on her own rather than being a 28 year old neet living with her parents.
There's no way she's paying for it herself. She has 6 roles in total in her imdb, one of them being an on-set photographer. Her only degree is for audio engineering, and minimum wage waitressing won't pay for any of that.
What's crazy to me is that I don't think it sounds like Scott should be able to afford to pay the living of 2 households. If he is, he must be leaving very little money for himself and Cathy just so Kiki can play hollywood.
i doubt it since all of her previous money schemes involved the internet, like patreon and lilkitten, because she has no real life skills and half-asses everything that doesn’t bring instant success. Maybe she’s hoping on marrying a rich hot actor and be set for life with him. Could explain why she’s so insanely desperate about being in a relationship with one. I think she planned on marrying Taku after only meeting the guy in person like two times. >>796894
you sound like you got problems. lay off the drama for a bit, familia.
That makes sense. Shes on disability and Scott is paying rent, so she can rely on these things to chase her Hollywood dream. Maybe she gets to perform odd jobs as a photographer, like in her IMDb (which sounds kind of hard to get regularly if you don't have a solid portfolio - plus, her ego is so big, she'd probably go nuts from not being in front of the camera).
I also agree that Kyle is probably a lot more functional than people assume - but I think his family would be more than glad to use his autism to get checks from the govt.>>796904
Oh shit, me too. Won't happen this year, thanks to 'rona.
nah i think the ostrengas are just irresponsible as fuck with money and prioritize Kiki living her dream above anything, and are probably funding her whole lifestyle hoping she'll make it big any day now and they're just giving her a start-up.
remember the kickstarter? they wanted $20k just to show up to LA with music equipment and as soon as they stepped foot there, they would instantly become celebrities doing music tours. Like they and their parents are literally that delusional about what ungodly special indigos they are. Funny to see how the kickstarter plans would have flopped just like Kiki's acting career
Most people who live in LA to break into the entertainment industry have like 2 jobs and 3 side gigs. She’s pathetic.
I also kinda doubt she’s on disability. The gov’t does not
want to give it out, and when they do, it’s barely enough to live on. If she’s getting income from her parents, any attempt to get on disability would be rejected
sort of. there was a video of them all on splash mountain on kiki's old myspace or something and he was sitting behind them on the ride. there was a picture years later of them all on tower of terror and by then kyler had been given scene hair.>>796948
i always took that as a dig at farmers. she thinks we're a handful of people on disability posting all day. her past comments and behavior shows she doesn't think highly of disabled people even though she tried to make it look like she did by tweeting something about making carbon copies of her notes for the students with disabilities office at her school. >>796955
lmao anon those idiots spent $5k to buy kiki a role in a b horror movie thinking it would get her a break. they are not accepting that their kira kira princess is a flop anytime in this century.
>>796975>she thinks we're a handful of people on disability posting all day. her past comments and behavior shows she doesn't think highly of disabled people
Holy shit I still remember a video of hers on stickam (very old, she had scene platinum hair) where she was basically making fun of the disabled, slouching like "why do all retarded people eat like this?" And laughing at a girl in a wheelchair at her college because "she was so fat"
God I wish we still had those floating around.
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Are you….making that up? I searched the words Japan, cost, travel, trip, expensive, and luggage in all of the spergchan posts and didn’t find anything like that. https://lolcow.farm/all-posts-kiki.html
i didn't find anything at all about money, except some bitter comments about Taylor using "her daddy's money to play celebrity" which is fucking hilarious right now
It definitely happened. Search "baggage", for some reason she called it that.
It stood out to me as such a strangely specific thing for her to complain about when it costs nothing to check a bag and is usually included in a ticket.
She outed that she basically had to use some super cheap discounted airlines to get to Tokyo.
oh ok, sorry i saw it. this is what she said:>Is she flying business class? And man, that hotel… Look at me flying cheap economy class for ~17 hours to Tokyo in August and worrying about my hand baggage size
Wow that's a very honest display of jealousy at Taylor.
God, I miss this era
Although her “big actress in LA” era provided some amazing moments, there was something about her Japan era that was just chef’s kiss
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NEVERMIND. I went down a Kiki rabbit hole today and found this in an old thread. She had just copied and pasted that baggage comment from someone on PULL at random… I also didn't find any evidence that she went to Japan in August 2016.
also this shows, like admin said, that she was leaving red herrings here and there to throw off the scent. I think the disability claim was one of them too.
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LMAO her 15min are back
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Kirsten, you're fucking cringe
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It's specially funny when she was low-key hinting she had rented her own place in Tokyo. Meanwhile, she's seething with envy of Taylor.
Orlando to Tokyo can range from 17-21 hours. The same is true for a billion cities in the east coast, I checked Atlanta, GA and Charlottesville, VA at random and they said the same, even some cities in Canada. That PULL user doesn’t have to be from Florida. Also the admin said they and the PULL mods confirmed that person was not her sockpuppet. She actually copy/posted several posts from various random PULL users including the mod Apple, I guess in an attempt to sound normal in between her rage posts. And I said there’s no proof she even went to Japan in August 2016. If I’m not mistaken the last time she went was in 2014 with Taku
seriously what is it with the kiki/kota community wanting to believe things based on the single absolute weakest link and ignoring a mountain of strong evidence that points to the contrary.
Here's the first actual Kiki thread: >>>/pt/82
No mention of Taku, so that was probably 2015.
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autumn/winter 2015 I think. Anyways, I was looking for the first taku posts and found again this gem >>45355
Kaka's threads used to be a wild ride
God, the Taco era
No wonder this girl still is my favorite cow after all those years
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It was so weird, why not take your own photos of Japan? The delusions of grandeur were really gripping her, she desperately wanted people to say she was coming to Taylor’s career.
Also decided to revisit past threads like other anons, she really favors Woody Harrelson actually.
at 2:30 she is filming a tv appearance by Dakota while reciting "I wandered lonely as a cloud"
I hope this was intentional, somehow
that sounds accurate, Kiki was super defensive over it in a comment, saying "these are not for the internet it's for family photo albums" etc. She was just pissed Kota was better off not being affiliated to her. >>797315
Which makes the fact she ever worked as a photographer (even if it was just once) weirder
Kota probably didn't want Kaka to steal her thunder. Pretty certain Kaka would have LOVED to Kota's coattails in Japan.
I tried searching for pics of them together during this era but found this snippet from the Lilou Vos resume instead…
>"Special talents": Acupuncture, Beginner Japanese, Beginner Mandarin, Botany, Chinese Medicine, Herbalism, Metal Fabrication, Qi Gong, Hula Hoop, Martial Arts - Tai Chi, Roller Skating, Rollerblading, Running - Sprint, Trampoline, Yoga, Comedian, Guitar, Improvisation, Licensed Driver, Modeling, Piano, Asian - Chinese Accent, Asian - Japanese Accent, Australian Accent, Scottish Accent, Southern Accent, Spanish Accent, Texan Accent
Yeah… We've seen her attempt at accents, they'd only work for a very offensive stereotypical comedy bit.
Unrelated but seeing her like tweets from Ricky Berwick with this
on mind >>796977
just feels Soo weird. She's sick.
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I never watched this but wow it's dark. She's lonely as >>797380
said. Who is taking the video when it's not a selfie? Her father?
The trip looks like it was across 2 or 3 nights and looks like Taco was just around on the last night sumo watching.
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Imo it has nothing to do with Dakota’s manager. She has been sliding away from Kiki since the end of the stickam days, and for good reason. Kiki has done nothing but jeopardize her
Off the top of my head, some shit kiki has done to her:
-copyrighted a video belonging to a company Dakota modeled for, used her name to do it, and left a mortifying “This video belongs to Dakota Ostrenga” floating on the company’s official website
-made a bizarre tweet once saying “Hey you Dakota Rose fans, ask me any question about your favorite model?” Then deleted it.
-I think the first time she went back to Orlando she left her twitter open and Kiki made a series of “joke” tweets pretending to be her with her unfunny humor while she was trying to look professional
-Admitted on here as spergchan that she photoshops a lot. The Taylor, Sharla, Meimei and Audrey remarks must have also been mortifying for her since Dakota just likes to stick her nose up at these people and pretend she doesn't know they exist.
-posted this bizarre jab at Dakota on Instagram. Like what the fuck is #sharpfacerepresentin’ and “holla at my angular guys and gals” when she knows Dakota hates her square jaw and is bullied for it more than anything
It’s basically a risk keeping Kiki around
Holy fuvk I had forgotten all that.
Good on Dakota, I guess I think the angular shit is her trying to assure herself she doesn't care about her manly face (like with the forehead shit) but apart from that, the rest sounds like a nightmare. Dakota finally gets away and she pulls that shit?
I forgot how hard Kiki clung to her when she moved to Japan, suddenly her entire
persona was weeby, elven, pure ethereal goddessu of happiness and innocence. A full 180 from the real Kiki, as seen by her actions like obsessively tweeting at her sister, especially that tweet about Dakota's secrets.