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No. 2590730

Happy 4th of July!
>ignore bait
>be a good American citizen

Previous threads:
>>2568880
>>2533935
>>2507576
>>2476576

No. 2590734

Happy 4th everynonnie
I hope you all have a great holiday weekend

No. 2590735

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How fortunate that the new thread starts on Alfred's birthday! Happy 4th!

No. 2590758

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President Donald Trump announced a UFC fight will take place at the White House next year to celebrate America’s upcoming 250th birthday.

No. 2590763

>>2590758
Insanely white trash it only needs a commemorative nascar race to go along with it.

No. 2590769

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>>2590592
>The demographics of St. Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans, and Detroit is mostly latam? Seems like a different ethnicity is responsible for these.
And its definitely not the irish or any european immmigrants.(racebait)

No. 2590771

>>2590758
Let's see if we can all goad him into being a participant against Musk

No. 2590775

I swear to God they're using fireworks to cover up bombs and gunshots

No. 2590776

>>2590769
Don't bring that stuff into this beautiful new thread nonnie

No. 2590787

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>>2590776
Sorry.

Happy day of Burger.

No. 2590795

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>>>/ot/2585645
>"White is more of an American, or in general, a New World concept than it is a European one”.
>”Johann Friedrich Blumenbach (11 May 1752 – 22 January 1840) was a German physician, naturalist, physiologist and anthropologist. He is considered to be a main founder of zoology and anthropology as comparative, scientific disciplines. He has been called the ‘founder of racial classifications’.”
>”Blumenbach's classification of the single human species into five varieties (later called "races") (1793/1795):
>the Caucasian or white race. Blumenbach was the first to use this term for Europeans, and he also included North Africans, Middle Easterners and South Asians in the same category.[17]
>the Mongolian or yellow race, including all East Asians.
>the Malayan or brown race, including Southeast Asians and Indigenous peoples of Oceania.
>the Ethiopian or black race, including all sub-Saharan Africans.
>the American or red race, including all Native Americans.
How is “white” so much more of an American concept if Europeans were the first to start classifying race?
>If you wanted to apply this question to the American sensibility, for example, then ask: Are people from Jersey City considered New Yorkers?
You space your points like a redditor. Also, you’re comparing two people of the same nationality to two people from different countries and continents when the question was about race.
>>>/ot/2585659
>Euros have always been more focused on nationality than race, in my experience
>in my experience
>indingenous people of the Americas had been targeted and raped so hard that we have modern day mestizos; which are basically a racial admixture historically born from Spanish men forcibly impregnating native women
>French men had punished black slaves so severely in places such as Jamaica that one form of punishment involved forcing slaves to defecate in each other’s mouths
>Modern day: Europeans make monkey noises and throw bananas at black soccer players in racist gesture
>African player in Portugal had to leave game because of racist harassment
>”Racism towards Black people is growing in Europe, with Germany, Austria and Finland showing the highest rates of discrimination and harassment, a survey of first- and second-generation Black immigrants in 13 EU countries published on Wednesday found. The European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA), which commissioned the survey and analyzed its findings in a report, said that in the space of six years since the previous study the proportion of respondents who had felt racially discriminated against in the past 12 months had risen by 10 percentage points to 34%. In Austria and Germany the proportion was 64% - almost twice the previous level of 33% in Germany and a significant increase from the 42% recorded in Austria six years earlier. The next worst was Finland with 54%. "It is shocking to see no improvement since our last survey," FRA Director Michael O'Flaherty said. "Instead, people of African descent face ever more discrimination just because of the colour of their skin." The proportion of respondents who reported feeling racially discriminated against over the past five years rather than 12 months rose to 45% across the 13 countries surveyed, an increase of six points from the previous study. The top three were the same, with Germany's rate the highest at 76%.”
Saying that Europeans care less about race is not true. Not after a point in the past, not today. Europeans aren’t different from Americans when it comes to racism, and that’s at BEST.
>>>/ot/2585660
>This particular neurosis regarding 'race' that blights the New World societies is a result of colonialism, specifically the institution of caste and the institution of slavery.
You mean the social system that Europeans invented and continue to engage in the first place? Why are you blaming Americans for what Europeans introduced to this world? Also, you keep bringing up nationality as if European xenophobia cancels out racism. That’s not how that works.
>>>/ot/2585672
>”She still doesn't get it, Americans are wild”
>fail to address how Europeans view the classification of what is considered “white” and how Turks may or may not fall into the social category
>”omg Americans are wild!”
Is this why more international students flock to the USA than any European country or country in general? I don’t blame them if this is average Europoor intellect despite stats.
>>>/ot/2585682
>You're asking about apples vs oranges when the conversation is about airplanes. The concept of "white" as you understand it isn't how it works over there.
Your analogy falls apart when you are aware of the fact that it was Europeans themselves who invented and continue to use this label.
>over there
Are you even European? Why are you speaking on behalf of a group of people you’re not even a part of? Bro thinks she’s part of the team KEK
>>>/ot/2585679
>Anon you won't understand it no matter how hard we try to explain it.
You never answered my question and you failed to even get your facts straight.
>Just play a song you like and dance for a while and enjoy your life and forget these things that you can't comprehend.
>never addresses race classification being a European toy that they used to justify numerous atrocities across the globe
>doesn’t read the news and look at modern day European acknowledgement of race
>dodge the question to define what “white” means according to Europeans
>”you’re too stupid to comprehend it!”
Don’t be a teacher, PLEASE. Also,
>66% of the songs on Spotify's Global Top-50 playlist were recorded by US-based artists. American acts are leading the industry.
Americans mog European artists anyway, so dance and sing I will.
>>>/ot/2585690
>They're just the nationality that they are nona.
Can’t answer the question but still spoke.
>>>/ot/2585700
>Please read books more.
You mean like books on Europoor history? Okay, here’s a synopsis.
>Europe-
>No history whatsoever 
> Romans discovers them living in shit covered holes in the ground 
>Romans attempt to civilize them, but fail
>Destroy Roman Empire and doesn't know what to do with Greco-Roman knowledge.
>Return to barbarism 
>Cope by calling "Dark Ages"
>Get invaded by Moors
>Moors reintroduce classical Greco-Roman knowledge 
>Cope by calling "Renaissance"
>Sail around the globe with Moorish maps & navigation technology to plunder just like Barbarian ancestors.
>Cope by calling it "Age of discovery"
>Spend the next 400 years looting the world.
>Can't agree on how to divide stolen loot.
>Engage in large-scale tribal war & destroy own nations 
>Cope by calling it "world war"
>Blame Jews for destruction 
>Launch another large-scale tribal war because why not
>Attempt to co-opt Greco-Roman history
> Cope by inventing imaginary progenitor Aryan race
> Attempt to pass off marauding hordes of  raiders as glorious Viking civilization for further cope.
>Deflect attention from Europe's lack of any prehistory by belittling African history.
>Largest pre Roman construction in all of Europe is a pile of rocks called “The Stonehenge”
Interesting books indeed when history is just full of you being embarrassing whores. Even Hitler thought European history was a nothingburger:
>”Why do we call the whole world’s attention to the fact that we have no past? It’s bad enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone axe he finds…..We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these revelations.”
Sad whores.

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>>2590795
>>>/ot/2585701
>can’t explain a European concept despite supposedly being either European or knowledgeable about the subject
>”You’re stupid and I’m funny so here’s a Patrick Star meme!”
Bill Burr is unironically funnier. Yikes.
>>>/ot/2585704
What a nothingburger response. If uneducated, why speak at all?
>>2585705
>>>/ot/2585705
>WW2 was more about nationality and religion. Americans haven't been toe-to-toe in conflicts like Europeans have, so it's easier for you to see this as one race versus another.
Again, you are bringing up nationality and religion to derail what the original question was about. Also, you are downplaying the significant regard of race that Nazis and Europeans in general gave about race.
>”The Nazi's cornerstone precept of "racial hygiene" gave birth to their policy of "racial cleansing" that led to the murders of millions. It was developed by German physicians and scientists in the late 19th century and is rooted in the period's Social Darwinism that placed blacks at the bottom of the racial ladder. This program was first manifested in the near-extermination of the African Herero people during the German colonial period. After WWI, the fear among the German populace that occupying African troops and their Afro-German children would lead to "bastardization" of the German people formed a unifying racial principle that the Nazis exploited. They extended this mind-set to a variety of "unworthy" groups, leading to the physician-administered racial Nuremberg laws, the Sterilization laws, the secret sterilization of Afro-Germans, and the German euthanasia program. This culminated in the extermination camps.”
Jews were not the only victims of WWII. Europeans were not done terrorizing those outside of the white race just because they were also occupied with jews. Read more.
>>>/ot/2585708
>stantwitter meme because of one’s own failure to properly answer a question
If only Europeans cared more about being less racist to black people and Asians than America instead of using random memes with black women on them. My goodness.
>>>/ot/2585713
>you are
I’m not arabian.
>>>/ot/2585718
>Answer too complex and not simple
It’s either you’re not European yourself, or you just don’t know enough of what you’re talking about. There’s no reason for why the question is this hard, unless you’re one of those two things.
>>>/ot/2585725
>>>/ot/2585788
>>>/ot/2585789
>>>/ot/2585815
>>>/ot/2585824
>examples adding up to number 2947238975983759 of how scrotes mog women in comedy despite being responsible for 90% of violent crimes
>>>/ot/2585726
>I so, so desperately want you to understand that I can't even be mean.
The problem is that you simply don’t know enough of what you’re talking about even though you so, so desperately want to be a historian.
>”Good luck navigating life with your reading comprehension skills”
>spent several posts bringing up irrelevant points to not answer what was simply: “Do Europeans think of Turks as white?”
“Ugh, you have no reading comprehension!”
This is like a teacher being asked by a student “what’s 2+2”, talking in redundant circles about apples, oranges and the space-time continuum and calling the student dumb for “just not getting it”.
>I hope you enjoy your senior year of high school next year.
I graduated high school a year early. Also,
>the average four-year high school graduation rate in the United States was approximately 87.4%. In the EU, the average share of people aged 20-24 with at least an upper secondary education (similar to high school) was 84.3% in 2024.
Have YOU graduated? Oh wait, you’re most definitely not even European. My bad.
>>>/ot/2585729
You're not gonna get it until you let go of the word "white". It just doesn't apply. There is not a "white equivalent" in Europe. It is just us vs them.
This is just false. Not even arguably false. With everything I have provided, you are objectively just incorrect.
>>>/ot/2585735
>I should have clarified I don't think they see race in regards to other Caucasian, light-skinned people. Obviously people with darker skin or distinctly different facial features always face additional levels of prejudice based on that alone. It still falls into the category of us vs them
Racism is a form of prejudice that implies the ability to see race if there’s even a possibility to create a bias based on it. Yes, there is “us vs. them” in Europe. Not just in nationality, but also in race. You basically just admitted that there’s racism in Europe, meaning that European perspective on race isn’t that different from racism literally anywhere else. This means that Europeans do see race, so the question was how do they view Turks in terms of race?
>”I don't think they”
So you’re not European. Why were you ever speaking? Why didn’t you properly read that my question wasn’t meant for someone like you to answer in the first place? I thought you had superior reading comprehension. I guess my American nationality put a dent in it.
>>>/ot/2585765
>Another American moment. Biracial people aren't half, they're double.
I’m not taking biology lessons from someone who descended from a group of borderline neanderthals who needed Romans to make them stop fucking their own fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins and random animals in swamps. Or from a demographic of women who had to be told to stop prostituting themselves to sell their own babies into slavery for being part black.
>”…for as much a[s] diverse Freeborne English or Whitewoman sometimes by the instigation Procurement of Convievance of theire Masters Mistres or dames, and always to the Satisfaction of theire Lascivious and Lusftfull desires, and to the disgrace not only of the English butt also of mant other Christian Nations, do Intermarry with Negroes and Slaves…”
>>>/ot/2585921
>Idk about anyone else but I’m not denying that Europe is racist as shit it’s just its own unique history of racism that can’t be understood through an American lens of “whiteness.”
Because Europeans definitely never had or at least transported slaves based on a sense of racial superiority into the 17th century just like Americans did. Nah. Let’s just lie about history to make Europe look so different from America.
>>>/ot/2585948
>this is a question that can be answered with a yes or no you ameritard.
>There is the group with heavily slavic genetics, the one with middle eastern genetics and the one who still has mongolian genetics although the last one is rare. So no, it depends on the person, their whole ethnicity as a nation can't be classified as one ethnicity due to the diversity in it. Some are very white nordic looking, some look arab, and  some look like a mix of those two.
>”It CanT bE AnsWerED WitH a YeS or nO yoU AmEritArd!
>Proceeds to answer the question with a very simple answer.
So basically, the answer is that yes, Turkish people can be white and will be seen as white depending on the individual’s race. You answered the question, but you honestly don’t strike me as that intelligent.
>>>/ot/2585967
>here's how europe divides it's whiteness. ultra white: pig snout nose, Whoville lips, natural platinum blonde, icy blue eyes, flat. white: dark blonde hair, blue/hazel eyes, button nose but not as snouty. ambigious/exotic: luigi mangioni, olive skin tone, wavy or curly hair, dark brunette, dark eyes, aquiline nose, prominent eyes. Not-white: anything that's not the first two and sometimes the third one. Also it depends on which part of europe you are because in some parts the luigi mangioni phenotype is considered white but in other parts he is not.
You do all that when you don’t even have the largest genetic diversity. You guys don’t even come in second place.
>”You are giving such a 4chan /pol/ stench, also look at a american calling someone a mutt”
>has a problem with politically incorrect statements about racial admixture
>proceeds to be politically incorrect on the assumption that an American can’t be one race with one ethnicity
>ignore the fact that there’s an entire European country known as the “United Kingdom” that is composed of ethnic mutts due to invasion by different groups of other ancient Europoors.
Strange behavior.
>>>/ot/2585976
>”I told you you’re arabs”
I’m not arab and if I could switch out the “European” DNA in me for anything else, I would go with East Asia. Not necessarily proud to be an American, but glad I’m not European.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 2590798

Perfect day for the new thread!! Happy Birthday to the U.S.A! What is something you love about America?

No. 2590799

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>>2590795
tl:dr

No. 2590805

>>2590775
Try not to worry yourself too much nona lmao I'm fairly certain that it is fireworks

No. 2590811

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>>2590798
>What is something you love about America?
It looks like a happy little creature

No. 2590812

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What are you bringing to the cookout nonnies? I'm bringing the ribs

No. 2590814

Wow that Irish anon got really triggered kek

No. 2590816

>>2590775
why or who would need to? take your meds and enjoy some bbq

No. 2590818

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>>2590811
Aw, super cute. I've always liked the shape of Oklahoma for some reason. Looks like a hand with a finger pointing West to me.
>>2590812
The coleslaw!

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>>2590812
I’m showing up with a nice, tailgate sized serving of perfectly seasoned fries for all my nonnies to enjoy of course!!

No. 2590847

>>2590798
the landscape is nice

No. 2590854

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>>2590812
Freedom chicken

No. 2590856

>>2590854
>No miniature American flags in the butter
For shame.

No. 2590858

>>2590798
I love America because it's beautiful, especially the state I'm from

No. 2590861

>>2590847
>>2590858
America has an enormous amount of biodiversity and beautiful landscapes. Seriously one of the prettiest countries in that aspect.

No. 2590875

>>2590798
The overall laid-back culture definitely. Not that Id ever go shopping in pjs, but its nice that I can wear comfortable shoes without anyone caring. I remember this girl from Italy saying how her mom literally changed her out of her pajamas into nice clothes before taking her to the fucking ER. And yes I know this could be a fake story, but a lot of cultures are really high-strung about the fashion choices of complete strangers which is something Ill never be able to wrap my head around as someone from the rural south.

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>>2590812
I made a crumbcake nonnies!

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>>2590795
This is what happens when you call a Turk an arab. Noted

No. 2590931

Hope everyone who supports the current administration has all their worst nightmares become reality.

No. 2590943

Caught up on the other thread and I'm just laughing over here noticing how after Irish anon announced she's a white racist multiple southern anons greeted her with open arms.

No. 2590949

>>2590798
The individualism we have. Film, fashion, and other art mediums can flourish here.
t. is huffing the hopium and pretending AI doesn't exist

No. 2590956

>>2590798
as an immigrant i like that i can just, exist as a woman here. i can just get a job and pay my bills and i can just… exist. i don’t owe anyone anything just because i’m a woman. i don’t have to be married or serving my relatives or community just because of my biological sex. i can truly be free. this is not possible where i’m from. (though recent law changes are a little concerning, it’s still much better here)

No. 2590957

https://electiontruthalliance.org/mebane-pa-working-paper

Expert on voting fraud confirms it was likely the election was manipulated. Is anything even gonna happen if it's 100% confirmed?

No. 2590959

Gonna be streaming americany things in the movie room in about 40 minutes if any burgers want to join and relax a little. Either way, sending lots of love to all you anons!

No. 2590962

>>2590957
From what I'm understanding there is no way to prove it and the election was already certified so they can't change it anyway. I don't really know what I'm talking about though, this is just what I read on a different article.

No. 2590963

>>2590814
still don't understand why obvious non-americans who just want to shit up the thread aren't instabanned

No. 2590970

>>2590962
So what was the point of voting if they were just gonna rig it anyway? Nevermind blaming dems

No. 2590973

>>2590795
Why aren’t you BBQing with your friends? Where’s your family?

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>>2590812
Cumin lamb skewers

No. 2590979

>leaves Ireland in the midst of a migration crisis
>nooticing posting
the irony will go nicely with my ribs and mac and cheese tonight kek, Happy 4th!

No. 2590998

>>2590758
Him versus Elon let's gooo

No. 2591006

>>>/ot/2590565
ayrt you're way more emotionally charged about this than i am somehow lmfao, relax. they really weren't kidding when they said we have an illiteracy crisis damn.

No. 2591016

>>2590578
Black Americans are still Americans. If it was immigrants then we'd see crime increases in mostly immigrant towns near the border

No. 2591017

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Happy Bday American nonnies from Britain
Im not serious about pic rel it made me kek

No. 2591020

>>2591017
Omg Daddy, you're so still obsessed with us

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Is there a Russian bot takeover? Even during the election pro trump crap wasn't drilled that hard. Even then I live in a heavily red area and people never react that way irl and my entire family is republican

No. 2591038

>>2590117
>American boomers who wanted to "get in touch with their heritage"
lmao let me guess, Dublin? When I read this I knew it had to be Ireland. It’s weird though, I looked up the figures and apparently only 10% of Americans claim Irish ancestry, it feels like literally everyone is “part Irish” (myself included) kek

No. 2591041

>>2591024
Maybe but I also think these people are the right wing equivalent of those leftist posters that claim to be neurodivergent disabled communists with a dozen different identities and self-diagnosed medical conditions. Both are terminally online malingerers that are far removed from reality (because they spend all day online). Normal people, left or right, are nothing like them

No. 2591042

>>2591024
Unfortunately I know people irl (like my crazy family members) who were never outspoken about politics or supporting Trump before, and are now absolutely batshit for him and talk about him like he’s a superhero or something. It’s bizarre

No. 2591051

>>2591042
MAGA is literal cult mindset. I have family members who basically cut off everyone and only ever bother talking to family and friends if it's to bash the left or talk about how great Trump is. It almost feels like talking to a zombie how they completely lost all personality except for trump and hating the left. What is going on with people

No. 2591120

You guys can make fun of me for being a mongoloid and a retard but the Big Beautiful Bill doesn't make any sense to me and every time I try to understand it it's like someone explains it differently??

No. 2591142

>>2590856
>butter
Shame on YOU for not recognizing Velveeta.

No. 2591170

>>2591120
It's just a disguise after a disguise. "No tax on tips or overtime" but only applies to people making less than 25k a year, so nobody but teenagers, then the work requirements and Medicaid cuts,which is basically only going to apply for able bodied parents, then tax cuts for the rich and finding the wall + wars

No. 2591180

>>2591120
i don't think yr retarded but you probably get different answers because it covers so much and is like 900 pages long

No. 2591245

Trump just signed the big beautiful bill.

How do we feel about this?

No. 2591250

>>2591038
I am not proud to be an American but I am proud to be definitively 0% Irish

No. 2591264

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>>2591245
same way i felt the last two days

No. 2591293

>>2591250
Kek

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>>2591245
I feel bad but I guess all I can do is be good to others, try to stay healthy and stay at a job with good insurance

>>2590798
Our freedom when it comes to creative expression, we can kind of do whatever we want vs getting arrested or decapitated in other countries if anything is too offensive. I've been listening to the Assassins musical soundtrack all day, can't really imagine another country where a show like that could be made kek

No. 2591317

>>2591300
Leon Czolgosz was my husbando in high school for some reason so I became obsessed with that musical kek, thanks for reminding me

No. 2591333

>>2590775
You too? I am doing my best to remind myself my meds are working but some of these sound like gunshots this year.

No. 2591334

>>2591245
I don’t really know what to feel cause I don’t understand what it means kekk

No. 2591336

>>2591334
Lots of financial shuffling in our near future. Anyone that needs assistance (education, health insurance, disability) is about to be fuck extraordinarily.

No. 2591341

Not to be autistic but I don't get how people can just keep consooming and consooming knowing the state of things. Like I'm so sick of corporate zombies who's whole lives are Target and Starbucks because they can't think of anything else to do with their time and money.

No. 2591343

>>2591341
What if consooming is part of the other stuff I do do with my time and money

No. 2591347

>>2591343
do you consoom in a way that is thoughtful and meaningful and not just "me me want labubu and starbies"?

No. 2591348

>>2591341
It's the state of things that makes me want to consoom. Everything is hopeless from my pov so I might as well distract with something bright and colorful and maybe even a little tastey.

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>>2591317
Terrence Mann did such a good job on the recording I don't blame you

No. 2591357

>>2591347
Yes my personal form of consoomerism is not tiktok trends keek

No. 2591359

I don't mean this to racebait please do not racebait but I have a genuine question. Why are Republicans so obsessed with getting rid of Hispanic people in particular as if they are the only immigrants ever? As if Indians in particular and Middle Easterns don't make up a ton of immigrants as well? Why are they obsessed with Hispanic people?

No. 2591365

>>2591359
Solid question. A lot of Mexicans are responsible for physical labor that pays poorly (stuff a lot of rich people indulge in utilizing) so it's quite strange. Considering the state of tech-based jobs, I'd have thought it would be the other way around? Maybe it's a farce.

No. 2591367

>>2591359
I thought it was because they were just racist to them and don’t like them

No. 2591368

>>2591359
Maybe it's geographical related? It's probably cheaper to have them shipped next door than across an ocean? I'm not sure though

No. 2591369

>>2591359
They are easily visible targets which speak a common language that isn't English and are widespread across the US, which means that most people have had contact with them.

No. 2591371

>>2591359
they are the largest ethnic group in the US after white people. Republicans stoke and exploit a fear of potential "replacement" some conservative people have.

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>>2591359
So the united States is right next to Mexico, it’s on top of it. The majority of illegal immigrants are usually from Mexico and other countries in South America, so it kinda makes sense why they’d argue the most about Mexicans. But I also see people getting just as angry about indians, Asians, Middle Easterners all the time

No. 2591380

>>2591369
seems similar to how chinese migrants were treated in the 19th century

No. 2591388

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>>2591359
i agree, i think all of them should be deported as well

No. 2591390

>>2591341
Tbh in my case I got a middling job that pays decent enough for me to buy an overpriced drink or two every week but not enough for me to comfortably live on my own. I don’t know what else I’m expected to do with my money, I got plenty in savings but not enough to buy my own home, and I don’t feel like going back to school. I figure dumping one or two hundred dollars on trinkets and food a month isn't a big deal, it’s not like I’m doing anything else with the cash.

No. 2591391

>>2591388
They should deport all moids, citizens or not, and make them have to reapply to get back in.

No. 2591404

>>2591390
>"Dumping" 100-200 dollars per month instead of saving it.
>Doesn't have enough to live on her own.
So many anons in these threads would benefit from taking a free class online about financial literacy and investing. Wow.

No. 2591421

>>2591404
You sound like a blast to hang out with. A couple hundred dollars isn't much of a difference when people are offering tens of thousands over the realtors listing prices for houses, nona.

No. 2591434

my life goal is to just waitress and sell various services like tutoring and products, maybe go to grad or nursing school if it gets too bad. i refuse to work 40 hours a week for $20 with a degree, when i make so much more. probably won’t ever move out when rent is $2000 for one room. the only fucked up part is i won’t have health insurance eventually, so i can just kill myself. god bless america! any other nonnies tired of it all and just going to do what they can?

No. 2591438

>>2591404
YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT ANON, IF ONLY THOSE STUPID BITCHES SAVED 30$ FROM BUYING STARBUCKS EVERY MONTH THEY COULD SAVE UP THAT MONEY AND BUY A BRAND NEW HOUSE, ITS SUPER EASY, GETTING HOUSES IS SUPER EASY, JUST STOP BUYING COFFE OR FOOD AND VOILA THERES THE HOUSE. EVEN FOR ME GETTING A HOUSE WAS EASY AND THE PERSON I BOUGHT IT FROM WAS PETER THIEL. ALTHOUGH IN OUR CONRACT IT SAID PETER WANTED TO HAVE SOME BLOOD DONATION AND A ''FROTTING'' FROM MY YOUNGER BROTHER IN EXCHANGE, I HAVEN'T SEEN MY LITTLE BROTHER AFTER THAT, I HOPE HE IS OK.(integrate)

No. 2591464

>>2591347
>>2591347

A store opened in my area recently and people waited like three hours in line for a Labubu. I don’t hate on anyone’s autistic special interests if they’re generally harmless, but these fucks we’re having online temper tantrums about how the store was “misleading” and “didn’t have enough for everyone”. In what world are you going to DIE without a shitty plastic toy? Is this just an American phenomenon? Am I more that slightly autistic that I just don’t understand?

>in b4 of course you’re autistic, this is lolcow.farm

No. 2591471

>>2591464
I think it's not the end of the world that's bothering you it's just that Labubu consoomers are fucking annoying kek

No. 2591488

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>>2591471
It’s also probably a good amount of retail worker PSTD from Black Friday consoomerism, tbh.

No. 2591491

>>2591404
They're mad but you're right. Home ownership is going the way of the dodo but younger gens aren't even trying to build any form of wealth and are shooting themselves in the foot. Younger nonnas I get that boomers have truly fucked us over but if you wan any sort of fighting chance you need to become financially literate and learn to invest.

No. 2591494

I just moved from the Southwest to the Midwest and holy fuck people are annoying and miserable here. Everyone has such an inferiority complex and it bleeds through in every interaction. My parents were from the Midwest and I see where they got their passive aggressive loser mentality from now.

No. 2591495

>>2591471
The only girl I’ve ever encountered IRL whos had a labubu (that she carried around with her) is an obese girl who somehow manages to mention her autism in every response she makes to any question I asked her

No. 2591501

I took a nap and forgot all about my drying clothes outside and now they smell like cheap fireworks….

No. 2591544

>>2591494
The suburbs assfuck your wallet just like a drunk weekend at Martha's without the exclusivity or prestige of the Northeast's preppy enclaves, the rural areas are depressed, bigoted and meth stricken without the rustic charm or hardheaded grit of the South and Appalachia, and most the "major" cities are all of the bullshit with barely any of the benefits. You'd be mad too if this was your heritage. Welcome. I don't even hate the Midwest that much, but goddamn it could be so much better.

No. 2591553

>>2591404
I have 70k in savings, Nona. I have a maxed out Roth IRA and a 401k. My car and university are both paid off. I don't know what you want me to do, I'm thinking about getting into stocks but I don't wanna throw my money away with bad investments lel.

No. 2591572

what do y'all think about this? makes my skin crawl..

No. 2591602

>>2591404
>>2591553
Just put everything into low cost index funds. Ignore line going up or down, only sell if you actually need the money, so long as the economy grows in the long run you will inevitably get a return it's only a question of when and how much. Make sure it has a low expense ratio (somewhere around 0.1% or less) so the cost of managing the fund doesn't eat too much into your profits

There are various ones you can choose, some of the most popular are VOO, SPY, VTI, IVV, etc you can find one yourself easily if you look around

Put some money in foreign index funds too to protect yourself in case the American economy ever goes to shit. For the past decade or so American stocks have produced excellent gains but there is no guarantee that will last forever, American stocks have had extended periods of producing no profit either (dot-com bubble, 2008 recession) and past performance is not a good indicator of future success. Some common foreign index funds include VXUS, SWISX, VTIAX, etc

Another common strategy is to just put money into VT (world index fund) and then buy other indices from there

Decide for yourself based on your age how you want to distribute it. Some go 70 American 30 Foreign, 80 American 20 Foreign, etc. Putting everything in American or foreign will be riskier

Put some money in bonds too. As you grow older, you are going to want more stable income, since index funds are still volatile. Common truism is to subtract your age from 100 to 110 to determine the percentage of your portfolio that should be in stocks. So if you are 30, having 70-80% of your portfolio be stocks, the rest in bonds is a decent number. It doesn't HAVE to be that way that's just common advice. If you are younger, you can afford to take more risks since even if your stocks don't work out you can always work more to recoup your losses.

Have some savings in a bank account, enough to last you at least 6 months so in case you lose your job and the stock market goes to shit you won't be forced to sell your stocks at a loss to survive

You don't have to pay tax whenever you buy stocks, but you do have to pay tax whenever you sell. If you held those stocks for under a year whatever profits you gain will be taxed as regular income. If you held for over a year you have to pay a capital gains tax, which will usually be smaller. Consider the taxes you will have to pay if you are going to sell stocks as you don't want the IRS chasing after you (this is one reason why constantly buying and selling is a limited strategy, you have to keep paying taxes)

Over time you may genuinely be more interested in being an active trader (i.e. buying individual stock). Start off small, do research, put money in companies you think will genuinely make profit in the future, only put in money you are willing to lose because buying individual stock is riskier than indices. If you want to trade things like options and futures just be very careful and really make sure you do your research because many people have been financially ruined doing that

Crypto is kind of a meme, it's filled with scammers, isn't regulated, and is even riskier than individual stocks. Like above, if you are going to get into it only put in money you are willing to lose, ignore any "influencer" endorsements because they are all scams, be wary of rugpulls (they happen literally all the time).

If you have an IRA (like a Roth IRA) don't forget to buy stocks with it too

Do this as consistently as you can, time in the market is more important than timing the market. There are various other investments you can make but this is a good foundation for 99% of Americans

No. 2591657

>>2591553
If you have 70k sitting in a savings account, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Hire a financial advisor and start investing. You'd also qualify for a down payment on so many condos in so many cities across the country. If you have 70k in savings and you're still living at home, that's really a self-own. Follow the advice >>2591602 gave you, or hire a financial advisor to handle the investment for you if you're uncomfortable with doing it yourself.

>>2591491
The kids are dumb and prideful nowadays. They wanna play nihilist but when they wake up and they're in their 30 with no assets, then they'll be crying. Oh well. Cycle of poverty forever I suppose.

No. 2591663

My cat finally came out from under the bed after the fireworks. Mother fucker won't step foot outside on the balcony though, he looks like he's seen war.

No. 2591664

>>2591657
We have the option to kill ourselves if that happens. You can do everything right and still be poor. Jobs don’t pay.

No. 2591669

>>2591664
Okay, nihilist. I'm talking to the anon with 70k sitting in a savings account, not you.

No. 2591679

Annoying fuckers still setting off fireworks at 1 AM.

No. 2591690

>>2591491
>>2591602
Investfags please sit down and stfu, some of us are actually poor and don't want to throw our like 5 cents of disposable income into the stock market with an insane retard with no impulse control or checks to power in charge in the hopes that we still have a functioning economic system by the time we are ready to retire. Gambling, but with extra steps and gargon that you can only benefit from if you are already financially stable!

No. 2591691

>>2591544
Let me inject some positivity into this assessment. I am travelling there to visit family and I cannot wait to eat an ungodly amount of sweet corn. Is there some website that lists all the upper midwestern corn fests? I want to go to a corn fest so badly.

Corn in Europe is sad. It's nothing like what's available in the Midwest.

No. 2591708

>>2591690
NTA anon's recommendations are very good and a solid strategy for retiring. Index funds are extremely low risk and safe, nowhere near 'gambling' since they essentially follow the market which has a historical return of like 6-7%. You are thinking of picking stocks, which she does mention and specifically says to be very careful because it can ruin your finances.

It's not an ideal strategy if you need money soon, it's a long term 'set and forget' thing, so I agree it's not ideal for people with no disposable income at all. But if you care about your finances at all you'd be better off looking into what she suggests rather than having a knee jerk reaction to the stockmarket as if it's only for wallstreet moids or something. It's actually very accessible and useful for normal, risk averse people.

No. 2591722

>>2591708
Literally. There's no point in having more than a couple of thousand dollars in a savings account, just enough to cover emergencies. If she kept 10k in a savings account and invested the 60k into a simple lazy portfolio, she'd be at 120k in no time. It's so tiring hearing ignorant people complaining about never being able to afford to buy a house or retire, but then simultaneously ignoring and deriding all advice offered to them.

Responses like >>2591690 are so derivative. She could have thanked the anon that offered the advice but instead she has to go on the defensive and talk down to the person that knows more than her. A lot of poor people stay poor because they hate admitting that they don't know crap or that they're harming their future with their inaction.

No. 2591751

>>2591722
>they're harming their future with their inaction.
If a significant chunk of the population can't handle a $500 emergency, and many are already in debt to the government for the sin of trying to get a degree, then yeah, this is trash advice to anyone who isn't already affluent enough to be barely affected by the historical horrible bill being made a law today. I would love it if women with means who didn't delude themselves into thinking they're poor making $75k or some shit made their own thread about investing because actual poorfags who are about to get any kind of social safety net they had scraped away don't really care to hear you cry about muh retirement when you are literally fine right now while people are struggling to survive. Saving for a bleak ass future in this current timeline. The idea that anyone thinks USD is going to hold it's value for more than the next 10-20 years or so is not paying attention and is putting way too much faith in the American economy like our stock market hasn't broken multiple times. Rich people fucking suck and want to call anyone who doesn't want to go along with their moronic plans and gleefully put their net worth in a wood chipper stupid.

No. 2591755

>>2591751
>then yeah, this is trash advice to anyone
>to anyone
But we weren't talking to anyone. We were talking to the anon that works a normal white-collar job and has 70k in her savings account. You are not the center of every discussion. You are not the one we are advising. You are not the one being given advice. You are not the main character. Have some self-awareness for once instead of being so focused on gay doomer nihilism.

No. 2591855

>>2591572
There's no proof but it's a very compelling theory (regarding the potential for illegal human experiments). Not like that hasn't happened before in multiple places around the world by multiple governments.

The part about slashing existing public funding then funneling it into private contracts with tech companies is definitely happening I mean it's not even a theory it's literally on paper now. They always said they would do that and have done it and now they are doing it more.

No. 2591868

It's a nice day to be an American with a pension ITT.

Anyway, make sure to max out your yearly IRA contributions. It lowers your taxable income and could potentially change which tax bracket you're in.

No. 2591889

>>2591868
Is there an easy online guide I can follow along for doing all this with my money? Don't feel like reading through a bunch of infighting here but I do have 50k in savings and two weeks off from my job to organize my money

No. 2591892

>>2591889
Go to your bank and ask to have a meeting set up with a financial advisor. Speak to them and they will most likely advise you to contribute a regular amount monthly so it works out you've contributed the max to your IRA by the end of the tax year (IRA contribution limits are by tax year not calendar year). They will set it up for you. This would be income that is already taxed from your paycheck, so when you take it out in the future it will not be taxed. Early withdrawals from your IRA are possible but with a heavy fee. That's the short version.

No. 2591896

>>2591892 is good advice nonnie but >>2591868 is talking about a traditional IRA where it's taken out pre-tax. A financial advisor should be able to guide you on which one would be more appropriate for your situation.

No. 2591909

>>2591889
Read >>2591602 then go to a reputable financial advisor.

No. 2591926

>>2591365
True but the issue is that them taking hard labor jobs for low pay throws off the job market. Even gig economy isn't worth it anymore cause they'll happily take 20+ mile orders for 3 dollars. No clue why

No. 2591972

>>2591926
If it was true, it would only be true for hard labor jobs. Gig economy work was always going to become more and more burdensome because, 1.) the "good pay" was supplemented by investor money to make the idea of being a gig worker appealing. Now workers are in the pipeline, consumers are used to it and investors want returns. 2.) something so easy to get in on was always going to become oversaturated and shitty over time. In a larger scope, we have little to no protections for contract workers, which is what allows gig workers to be exploited and blame each other and we haven't had a federal raise in minimum wage and Americans don't have the community or political will to organize and strike until wages improve. Having less, let alone zero immigrants wouldn't really change much, besides requiring a different scapegoat.

No. 2591976

>>2591501
That is uniquely unfortunate. Sulfer fart rock smell is so evil. I wonder if fireworks increase the overall temperature of an area. Feels like they do and it makes sense logically.

No. 2592073

>>2591359
Cause most illegal immigrants are Mexicans. I dont discriminate though, just send them all back

No. 2592091

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The defunding of NWS laid the groundwork for the disaster going on in Texas right now. Who knows how many more will be reported dead but I'm hoping the missing teen girls are somehow ok.

No. 2592183

I hate this stupid fucking country and I hate the stupid fucking maga retards who are blowing shit up at THREE IN THE AFTERNOON when the feels like temp is 95 and there’s like 80% humidity. Go the fuck inside and stop bothering the whole fucking neighborhood with your Chinese explosives. You can’t even see any pretty colors, you’re literally just outside to make a racket. I want to open my window grab a loudspeaker and talk about how fucking retarded you have to be to think that dumb shit is fun.

No. 2592187

>>2591909
>>2591602
>>2591892
Thank you

No. 2592193

>>2591691
Ily corn nonni, people don't get how good those golden morsels are. My dad grows the absolute best I've ever tasted. Idk about festivals, I live in the land of corn but all the local festivals are about coal, apples, peaches. Ever been to a corn maze?

No. 2592197

>>2592091
>christian summer camp
>teen girls
>texas
Bet they’ll never be found because they’re gonna be political sex slaves to Donny boy and friends.

No. 2592199

>>2592091
Red states are gonna get hit like a truck. It also doesn't help they defunded fema and hurricane season is coming. Hopefully "owning the libs" will fix their towns and homes

No. 2592202

It's a depopulation agenda, they don't give a shit about FEMA, red states or blue states, they're all cattle, surplus biomass. They have literally said in the past they want bio tech, brain implants, complete surveillance and turning useless eaters into fuel.

No. 2592236

>>2592091
in initial news reporting it said teen girls, but i want to amend it because more info on the girls has been released. There is maybe one or two teens (counselors) but most were kids, 8-10 years old. At least 4 of the missing girls have been confirmed dead, one girl was found alive so far.

No. 2592251

>>2591755
>You are not the center of every discussion
No but YOU fucking people are and think your farts don't stink and that it's "normal" to not only make enough money to survive in this country, but yap about muh investments muh retirement. Meanwhile the government is pushing the retirement age to 70. You are the fucking fence sitters MLK wrote about clucking about asking anonymous strangers what they should do with 10s of thousands of dollars when people are about not not even go to the doctor when they are sick and buy food. I hate people like you so fucking much.(infighting)

No. 2592312

>>2591690
This mindset is exactly what richfags want you to have. Learned helplessness to keep you poor.

No. 2592345

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>Pell Grant recipients will now need to take 15 credit hours instead of 12 to qualify for full-time
>Theyre slashing the maximum amount of money you can get from a Pell Grant by $1,500
Any other Pell Grant nonnies itt? I don't want to blog too much but I'm a disabled poorfag with no parental support so I kind of want to rope over this. At least I'm almost done with my degree.

No. 2592378

>>2592345
I'm one semester away from graduation so hopefully it won't hit me too hard.

No. 2592433

>>2592345
I'm glad I just finished my degree, I commuted while working two jobs and it felt like my brain was dissolving. Also had no family support so those grants were a big help for me.

No. 2592454

>>2592199
Central Texan nonnie here. It’s fucking awful. I really do think that there’s a level of cockiness at play - “it’s never been that bad before!” and people failed to heed warnings. They all have blood on their hands.

No. 2592456

So fucking tired of the fireworks they are so overwhelming. Fuck this dumb shit GO INSIDE

No. 2592479

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I'm a pretty cynical American right now to say the least, but I had a good 4th of july. Maybe it's because I'm getting older. But it didn't feel weird. My brother is seeing a woman with kids, and we had the kid come over. I played barbies with her, we watched the fireworks and held sparklers, sat around in the backyard and I talked to my parents. The little girl called my dad by his first name and I saw a flash of a smile on him when he was walking away. My parents were a bit sus about the whole situation because it's not my brother's biological children, but it's clear they are big softies underneath the facade and they're so pleased with this little kid that they can be grandparents to. The child accidentally broke a mechanism on the door and my dad was like "yep, she broke it. That's alright, I was going to replace it soon anyway". It made me laugh inside, knowing that if I did that as a kid, he would have huffed and puffed and gotten so goddamn angry. But he's an old man now and he's tickled by it.
I'm happy my parents can enjoy it because they're not getting any grandkids from me any time soon lol
It was nice pretending to be an aunt. I want my brother to be happy, if it includes raising those children I am more than happy to be an aunt.

No. 2592480

>>2590769
mind you it's the men, always the men

No. 2592519

>>2592091
My heart goes out to those girls and Texas Nonnies I hope you all are safe.The defunding of the NWS spells disaster in the next few years especially weather getting crazier.

I saw on my state subreddit that people has minutes to get downstairs after tornado alerts went off. Fuck Elon and that stupid orange faggot.

No. 2592561

>>2591691
Ayrt with the late response. I know there's one or two in Iowa that either are happening now or are about to happen. Cruise America also has a list of state fairs and they always have somebody selling those gigantic roasted corns. Not explicitly about corn, but if you like music and beer with your ears, Summerfest would have been the place to be.

No. 2592602

>>2592345
survived off pell grant my entire degree coupled with my tribe's scholarship, but even then it was barely enough to scrape by over the course of the semesters. the most i remember ever getting with a fafsa score of 0 was around 6500 average throughout course of my degree. Taking out the amount mentioned and leaving just 2k now per semester in this economy is just fucking cruel considering even people working with 15 credit hours as well are still struggling to scrape by. I still remember the one time pell grant was 10k under biden my sohpmore year, but then suddenly switched back to 6500 the next semester. Wtf was that about?

No. 2592683

>>2591896
I don’t know if she should do the pre tax one. Then you can’t use the free version of TurboTax to do your taxes because it’s more complicated. Both are an option but I like the one that’s not taxed later. But yeah I was talking about a ROTH IRA not a normal IRA.

No. 2592722

>>2592183
I could've written this. These exact words echo in my mind as it is 5 in the fucking morning. Like holy shit the god damn thunder JUST FUCKING STOPPED

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No. 2592871

>>2592856
They'd rather believe there's a fucking Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs weather machine causing our problems before they'd believe in climate change

No. 2592873

>>2592871
cloud seeding is real but I don't know how harmful it is to the environment to artificially induce rain

No. 2592886

>>2592856
I thought Australia did this more than we did?
She can get the law passed if she wants but there’d have to be a regulatory body to police it, not sure where she’s gonna get the funding for that, plus they’d be policing our own government so…this is like saying you’re gonna make psyops illegal. The weather research is all secret, or I thought it was.

No. 2592900

>>2592251
if you don't make enough money to survive in the united state you wouldn't make it anywhere in the world. Sorry to sound mean but skill issue. Its fucking hard everywhere, learn to deal.

No. 2592950

>>2592900
>skill issue
Go back

No. 2593001

Please can they create a regulation for car headlights I hate when I'm driving at night and the lifted f150 in the opposite lane shines the direct power of the sun into my eyes. I hate humongous cars so much.

No. 2593054

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It's great to have a political party that finally represents billionaires

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>>2593054
i can't wait for the news of this retard dying of an overdose in a bathtub. Seems like an uncontroversial bipartisan sentiment currently.

No. 2593079

Can any nonna more politically literate than me explain why Trump is cutting all the funding for this shit and what is he going to increase or keep spending on?

No. 2593102

>>2592199
If democrats are responsible it’s the libs fault. If republicans did it, it was God’s will. They’ll say god wanted those 10 year old girls back and their government did nothing wrong. Texas will continue being Texas.

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>>2592193
ayrt, yes I have been to a corn maze but I was pretty young! It was creepy because it was at night.

I'm so envious that your dad grows corn. You know what else doesn't really exist where I am? Cornbread. There's too much corn and not enough time during my trip. >>2592561
thank you nona! I found one a bit closer to the route I'll be roadtripping but I really should go to Iowa at some point. My relative keeps saying we can buy corn and roast it at my cousin's house, but I don't think she understands that I want the full corn experience.

Actually while searching for corn festivals I have found some amazing corn graphics and costumes and floats. I think harvest or produce festivals are adorable in every country.

No. 2593160

>>2593079
Based on what I’ve heard he’s cutting funding to existing government programs and departments and giving the funding to private companies via government contracts. The reality is it’s just a way to give your tax money to private corporations. Are the private corps going to do any good? Based on history… No. Here we are living history though so we’ll see unless we all flip shit I guess which I don’t see us doing quite yet.

No. 2593163

I hate this fucking administration and party, it's literally nothing but a bunch of fucking tweakers and not even the really fun kind. Just making fools of themselves. I'm so over it I want to see the next president already like hurry it up.

No. 2593187

>>2593163
I wish they were harmless tweakers who just do nothing instead of what we have right now. A full on uncontrolled pack of evil narcissists and sociopaths acting like a bunch of bulls in a china shop. I've never hated an American administration more.

No. 2593208

>>2593079
The only way what is going on makes sense is if you also understand the philosophy underpinning the ones pulling the strings, like folks at The Heritage Foundation and private donors like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. They are pretty disdainful of democracy and mostly believe that democracy and liberal ideas like egalitarianism and feminism have completely failed and we should return to "the right people" (monarchs and lords) rather than subject people to voting and having a civic duty. If every day people don't matter, then there is no point in caring for them or educating them (so no funding for those programs). What is most important to them is cementing a "priest class", aka make US a christian nation, to give moral and spiritual reasons and a strong military/police, basically the new "knight" class. Peter Thiel's pet philosopher is Curtis Yarvin who promotes this very idea of technofeudalism. Trump himself is the window dressing that obscures it all because at the end of the day he is a showman and surrounds himself with a lot of other show biz folks (literally and figuratively).

No. 2593316

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you can now mass report big tech companies like tesla, oracle, microsoft, ibm, apple, and google for h-1b visa fraud to the united states government. reporting clandestine bathroom hormones e-commerce sites actually did something so maybe this will too.

https://www.uscis.gov/scams-fraud-and-misconduct/report-fraud/combating-fraud-and-abuse-in-the-h-1b-visa-program

No. 2593318

>>2593208
elon defected from the party and made his own because trump cut his tesla subsidies and is cracking down on his cheap white collar labor, because for elon it's all about increasing his wealth. there are a lot of conflicting ideologies on the right and chaos is a ladder for people like yarvin and thiel. AIPAC and other lobbying PACs have something to say about the US being founded in christian ethics. But many of these same people have property in iceland. i don't think there is that strong of a vision for america from the corpo right wing except to loot and leave when the west fully declines.

No. 2593344

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>>2593001
These assholes also refuse to pass. I honestly don't understand it. You can't ride my ass and then blind me with your LED light bar while also refusing to just pass when there's ample room. Just pass me so I can see where the hell I'm going again.
My car came with bright ass LED headlights and I try to be responsible with them. You can see where the beam of light is when you're coming up on someone's bumper, so it's entirely possible to keep it from blinding people if you're not an asshole. I can only assume that these people are waiting for someone else to take them out of their misery. They have a 30% APR 84 month loan on that pavement princess truck so it's understandable.

No. 2593506

Wow! Pharmacies failing to fill my crazy pills again? Really, what is the point of this song and dance? People have shot up locations and drowned their kids during withdrawl of this pill. Shouldn't they either take it off the market or make it urgen to refill? You have to hop pharmacies whenever they do the insurance shuffle and it's getting on my nerves.

No. 2593535

>>2593506
Curious what the med is?

No. 2593858

>>2593535
My guess is stimulants. People in my state city centers are having a lot of trouble getting the brands for adderall and vyvanse filled because of the shortages.

No. 2593876

>>2593079
Market manipulation and insider trading. He's cutting funding for social programs so he can re-funnel the monies into others to grift the public and blame it on Democrats later (i.e. the cuts to healthcare do not go into effect until 2027 when people have long forgotten that Trump's party was behind it; demands to Dems later to fix what they broke). It's the same reason why he keeps threatening tariffs but then postpones them. All of his buddies know what his threats and plans will be for the week so they dump and buy in the market accordingly. Politicians are doing whatever the fuck they want right now. Look up Republicans selling off their shares and trading after Trump makes those tariff announcements.
>"But nonna, programs like Medicaid are not private businesses that have stock to trade, how can this be?"
Because they are shorting stocks of businesses adjacent to medicaid programs i.e. pharmaceuticals.
Remember The Wall that never got built during his last term in spite of all the funding we read that was funneled to it? Where did that money go???

Media is bought by the government so there is no focus on the insider trading aspect, but generates outrage around the announcements themselves. Imagine if the news agencies actually had the balls to report what is really happening.

No. 2593888

>>2593535
Antidepressant. Shouldn't be difficult, yet it is!
>>2593858
This makes me wildly curious though. What on earth is going on?

No. 2593890

>>2593876
>Because they are shorting stocks of businesses adjacent to medicaid programs i.e. pharmaceuticals.
nta That answers my question kek

No. 2593894

>>2593876
>Media is bought by the government so there is no focus on the insider trading aspect, but generates outrage around the announcements themselves. Imagine if the news agencies actually had the balls to report what is really happening.
The harsh truth is that most Americans don’t really care about issues like insider trading or lobbying, mainly because they don’t understand them. Politicians have effectively turned the culture war into the only thing that gets people’s attention. Just think about which headline gets more clicks: “Senator Makes $10M from shorting Tesla with suspiciously good timing” or “Trump Sneezes and Calls Mexicans Bad and Gay??”

The media’s goal is to keep people entertained, and what sells best is cheap, low-effort culture war drama.

No. 2593933

>>2593894
>“Senator Makes $10M from shorting Tesla with suspiciously good timing”
This is more interesting though, it's criminal.

No. 2593968

File: 1751897345321.jpeg (449.85 KB, 1179x1069, IMG_0277.jpeg)

Not even Americans care…

No. 2594277

>>2593933
Correct, but with how dumb and illiterate so much of our "general public" is, the Jerry Springer-type headlines are what get the most attention because it's dramatic and easy to read

No. 2594473

File: 1751929312104.png (108.67 KB, 640x1008, 1000023269.png)

Trump and Elon need to get a room at this point, I'm not ready to experience this messy breakup

No. 2594485

>>2594473
I don't understand what he's pretending to be angry about? Is he just acting triggered because he knows it would expose him too or what

No. 2594533

>>2594485
He’s going scorched Earth because Trump ass-fucked him real bad with his big beautiful bill. All the clean energy tax credits Tesla benefited from got scrapped. Now he’s trying to get the maggots to turn on Donnie and join his new America Party by wafting a conspiracy under their noses. He’s implying the admin hasn’t released the Epstein list because it would implicate Trump, knowing that a bunch of people voted for Trump specifically because he said he would release the list in the name of “exposing government corruption”

No. 2594552

>>2594533
>Trump ass-fucked him
as if he's not the richest fucking person alive and will continue to be regardless of what's in the bill. didn't he backpedal and apologize for doing this epstein shit before? i wonder why he's doubling down now. attention withdrawal?

No. 2594558

>>2594533
>>2594552
It's the truth, though? Elon sucks shit, but it's kind of based that he's calling out the retardation. Trump is obviously trying to cover shit up.

No. 2594572

>>2593888
>>2593858
I read somewhere that the stimulant shortage is being caused by patients with long covid getting prescribed stimulants for their fatigue. Idk if that's true but I am choosing to believe that explanation

No. 2594649

>>2594572
That’s not true. Maybe some people are getting them prescribed for that reason but the stimulant shortage is entirely artificial because the DEA, which regulates the amount of these drugs that can be produced, has not changed the limit from pre-Covid levels drastically.
There was an increase in prescriptions due to many people getting diagnosed ADHD when forced to work home due to the pandemic. This was complicated by doctors who only saw patients online being allowed to prescribe these drugs as well through zoom only appointments. This was not allowed prior to the pandemic either, but made it easier for people to acquire a prescription than previously. The DEA refused to increase the amount of the drugs being produced as they are skeptical of the amount of people who really need these drugs post pandemic. Additionally, there are other factors like generics and name brand not performing to the same level or manner, and loosening of regulations around that. It’s a mess but I doubt people are being prescribed stimulants en masse because they struggle with fatigue being the main cause.

No. 2594650

>>2594552
AYRT and I think he’s doubling down now because he finally realized that Donnie was only using him to fund his campaign and was always going to discard him like a used condom the minute it was most convenient for him. He backpedaled before because he thought he could get back in Trump’s good graces, but now that Trump has effectively gutted his monthly allowance, he knows he’s been officially abandoned and now wants to start his own party and steal his betraying boyfriend’s harem of asslickers.

No. 2594677

File: 1751943956885.png (93.14 KB, 997x678, trump.png)

Looks like the de minimus status that the non-China countries had is going away. As someone who buys a lot of korean and japanese skincare and is also a weeb, I'm fucking pissed. My sunscreens and husbando figures, both fucked.

No. 2594683

>>2594677
I hate this fat bastard japan is our buddy our silly rabbit why is he being such a piece of shit to them? please Barron Trump convince your father to let us weebs live in peace I know you watch anime too think of your poor brethren

No. 2594708

File: 1751946562878.png (43.61 KB, 1600x843, US_33_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg.…)

The admission of Oregon flag design kind of ate

No. 2594720

>>2594677
my husbando is the only thing that brings me joy in this piece of shit world and this bastard is taking that away from me, too…

No. 2594752

remember when a platform based on balancing the budget almost got ross perot 19% of the popular vote running for a third party

No. 2594793

File: 1751957675606.jpeg (70.62 KB, 1024x469, IMG_1766.jpeg)

Some coast guard pilot was drawing GPS dicks in the ocean tonight, kek. There’s some real artistry on that second one there, made it look 3 dimensional

No. 2594916

had no idea there was a huge orgy scene in san antonio, austin, and houston. i mean, i should've assumed because they're all large, but people actually go to these things. i guess dallas should be a part of the list too? i know swinger parties and weird con orgies exist, but thinking about a huge amount of people showing up at one place just for that is kind of insane to me. yes i'm retarded

No. 2595071

>>2594916
I feel like I could theoretically be down for an orgy if every single person in attendance was attractive and verified bug-free. Which is impossible, so I don't go to orgies. Which begs the question, what on earth is the appeal of bumping uglies with bumpy uglies? Especially in a humid place like Houston, omg I don't even want to imagine the swamp ass.

No. 2595186

>>2594572
That’s not true, and why is it something you’re choosing to believe like it’s a nice thing to believe? Are you one of those conspiracy theorists that don’t believe long covid is an actual condition? Just FYI, it is very real, the only issue is that they need to stop calling it long covid. It’s ME/CFS caused by COVID infection (whereas the majority of ME/CFS cases stem from severe EBV infection aka mononucleosis/mono). The only reason it hasn’t fully shifted to being called that is because both doctors and “long covid” patients (aka people with ME/CFS) are often disdainful towards the ME/CFS label and like to think they’re more legitimate and are totes special unlike us ME/CFS patients who they often think are fakers. The only time I get upset with people with COVID caused ME is when they refuse to call to ME and insist it’s totally different and then whine that they aren’t getting enough research or funding. When there’s never been more ME research as there is now that we have so many cases of ME caused by Covid. Kind of pisses me off that many researchers are acting like retards and treating LC as some special condition when it’s clearly a manifestation of ME/CFS, the discrimination runs so fucking deep.

Anyway! Stimulants aren’t recommended for ME/CFS and doctors are loathe to prescribe any controls for off label uses. The only “long covid” ME patients getting stim scripts almost certainly have comorbid ADHD, and even then, they’re not likely to be getting vyvanse/addy because those are particularly bad for ME/CFS. They’d be getting modafanil or armodafani, and you’d be hard pressed to find me a place with a shortage of those.

The reason stimulant shortages are happening is because of the surge in ADHD diagnoses over the pandemic and the apps that would basically hand you an adderall script like candy. They cracked down on that but there are still a lot of folks with dubious adhd diagnoses and scripts for stims they may or may not actually need. Supply chain problems were already happening and it has been a cascading problem that is still plaguing certain areas today.

No. 2595189

>>2594677
Oh nice I won’t be able to afford my fucking skincare

No. 2595190

>>2594793
Why are men so obsessed with dicks? It has never made sense to me, but they're all fucking retards who think 'hurhur penis funny'

No. 2595192

>>2593888
That’s so weird, may I ask what antidepressant? I’ve never heard of a pharmacy running out of those. At least it’s not benzos, if a pharmacy runs out of those they could kill mfers.

No. 2595194

>>2594677
I hope anyone who voted trump into office dies a miserable death.
We had it so good here in america with our import fees being pretty non existent. Like, what's the point? what's the fucking point of all of this? it only affects the working class and poor.

No. 2595196

>>2594677
Figures have been fucked already because they were made in China thogh

No. 2595199

>>2595189
Ayrt, for any other anons who use Korean skincare, I recommend Moida. I haven't ordered there yet but its a US-based sister site of Stylekorean which I've had a lot of good experiences with. I'll be on the hunt for us based sites to get Japanese beauty products.

No. 2595200

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No. 2595201

>>2595194
Same, really. Especially for those who were gloating that they voted Trump to "own da troonz". We now have much bigger problems than spinny skirt faggoons.

No. 2595203

>>2594677
When will this bs end? Rhetorically of course, because I agree with what >>2593876 said about all the games trump has been playing with tariffs. If it makes any nonnies feel better, he will either make adjustments to the tariffs so they "aren't as bad" so we can feel like "well at least it's not 35%! or at least it's only on goods over $800!" or right at the eve of imposing these tariffs coyly push them out further so it can hang over us all over again.

No. 2595204

>>2595200
HAHAHA. Of fucking course they "didn't find anything". And the rightoid conspiratards will eat that right up because their glorious leader can do no wrong and is no way part of the dreaded deep state.

No. 2595205

>>2595200
In a week I guarantee there will be bad actor trolls itt talking about how they "always knew" there wasn't a list.

No. 2595207

>>2595190
They think farts are funny, too. It disgusts me. Or every sentence is turned into a sex joke. I've always hated men but it's dawned on me recently that they are actually fucking stupid and unfunny on all levels.

No. 2595254

>>2595186
Damn, so hostile for no reason. You said it yourself though, people are getting prescribed too loosely, which is what I said in my post.

No. 2595301

>>2595190
It's strange how much their lives are driven by their dicks, it's like the dick is the brain and the rest of the moid is an accessory

No. 2595336

>>2595301
According to the somewhat sane moid I have on speed dial, that is exactly the case. He mentioned that genital stimulation is extremely powerful, convenient, and extremely swaying. We both speculate that testosterone is a very extreme hormone that alters the body in ways we see even animals in the wild are not immune to. (enraged rutts, aggressive behavior found only in male variants of species, etc) So, effectively, men's entire purpose in life is to satisfy their dick. The more they succeed, the more their bar for coom raises, and the weirder the kinks we end up witnessing.
Threadtax: That is why I believe there is an Epstein List 100%. That being said, I find fart jokes and toilet humor pretty funny. "Poopoo peepee" makes me laugh. Can't say the same about sex jokes unless it is insanely self-depreciating from the perspective of a moid telling it.

No. 2595345

>>2595200
If there was no client list then why did he “kill himself” instead of going to trial and be exonerated like diddy? I think diddy DFE’d his client list which is why they let him off.

No. 2595348

>>2595201
Not being able to buy plastic crap?

No. 2595350

>>2595336
further proof that all males should be barred from political or financial power and only used for hard labor

No. 2595355

>>2595203
I think the insider trading will be stopped when foreign billionaires start to get it on it. If all the Chinese billionaires who have property in the west also got into looting the country through the market American billionaires would put a stop to it not only to not lose to foreign rivals but because the would have a group to scapegoat.

No. 2595374

>>2595348
Why do dumbasses think tariffs will only affect consoomer shit from China? There's a lot of things in America that we rely on other countries to produce. Medications, food (no not junk or fancy foreign food, produce like your basic fruits and veggies), gas, etc…

No. 2595404

>>2595348
It reduces govt spending by $1 trillion, but cuts taxes by $4.5 trillion, do it only makes the deficit worse. Also the bill will increase premiums and cause more doctors to not accept medicare since it doesn't pay. It privatizes more of the government basically

No. 2595662

>>2595404
medicare and dental HMOs were already like that

No. 2595835

>>2595374
It's bait, nona. Not even worth acknowledging. The faggot does this every thread.

No. 2595889

>>2595189
Does it depend on what areas of commerce are being given tariffs? I could be wrong but I heard that when Canada had tariffs earlier this year it was geared towards construction materials and their cosmetic industry wasn't affected (Lush specifically because their N.A. products are made there)

No. 2596241

>>2595889
from my understanding there are blanket tariffs applied of 10%, 30% to Chinese goods, and than additional tariffs on specific goods like cars and construction materials. Also tariffs don't apply for imports under $800, so an order from Lush wouldn't be affected? If their prices rose due to tariffs, they might have just adjusted all pricing to not make it cheaper to order online than it would be in stores (since goods to stock stores would be worth more than $800). If find what actually gets tariffs and how much so confusing because it keeps changing so much.

No. 2596267

>>2595889
Nta but there have been a lot of people who ordered skincare online and got hit with a tariff

No. 2596341

>>2595374
>that we rely on other countries to produce
thats precisely the mistake.

No. 2596423

>>2596341
I can only assume you're saying this as someone who doesn't understand anything about economies or pro-degrowth because moving away from taking strategic advantage of cheaper goods and materials just forces our economy to move away from higher paying work to lower paying production jobs and increases the costs of goods regardless of tariffs. It's far better to spend time on what we can produce well, like agriculture, etc, than retool our refineries towards light sweet crude (what we have available in the us) rather than import cheaper crude oil from canada and the like, as just one example.

No. 2596481

>>2596423
I feel like said anon is young and dumb, or just doesnt understand economics works in general. America was in an amazing position where we could import pretty much everything from other countries, mainly places in Asia and use them here in our own businesses. Putting a tariff will affect everyone, especially small town and family owned businesses. it makes no sense to do this from any perspective. No one is yearning to return to the factories or freakn mines in the states. I hate people who dont get how we were in a great position before all of this. We really needed to focus on our own infrastructure and food programs to help our own people.

No. 2596486

>>2596481
>especially small town and family owned businesses
Most of those fuckers voted for this. I hope their business selling plastic trinkets collapse and they spend the rest of their life working in shoe and t-shirt factories.

No. 2596604

File: 1752089400090.jpeg (181.04 KB, 1206x730, IMG_3619.jpeg)

There had been some back and forth about amnesty for migrant workers and now the Trump admin is discussing as part of the medicaid work requirement is to get those people into the fields. Even if you somehow think this is a good idea, half of medicaid recipients are children and the other half are mostly pregnant women, women with young children, and poor people who already might be clearing the work requirements. I have no idea what the actual number of non-working and able-bodied medicaid recipients there are, but even if there is 34 million, well, how exactly are they going to move these people around to where they are needed? The US government is really going to force people in New Mexico, Kentucky, etc, to avocado farms in Cali and orange farms in Florida?

No. 2596607

>>2596604
1. What a disgusting idea, I want out of this country. 2. They're absolutely stupid if they think American citizens would choose to do farm labor for pennies. The only reason the immigrant workers were doing it is because they literally had no choice, even really poor citizens have better options than that.

No. 2596624

>>2596604
this sounds like slavery…

No. 2596629

>>2596604
>forcing a bunch of poors, single moms, old people, children, and literal crippled retards into the fields
This has got to be a joke.

No. 2596632

i'm annoyed by the repubs who are now saying that the alligator camp is basically what happens when you come here illegally. like i'm sorry but even american prisoners are treated a little better than what i've heard what's happening over there. at least prisoners get multiple meals a day instead of one that's infested with maggots. makes me wish it was legal for me to start tazing people to the ground whenever they start harassing me about their lord and savior jesus christ. if you can dish out cruel and unusual punishment, so can i.

No. 2596656

>>2596604
>these freeloader children and pregnant women can work the fields!!!
>well actually let’s just get robots to do it and let them starve and die
they literally do not care about anyone.

No. 2596672

>>2596604
>"Haha yes the welfare queens will be forced to work instead of game the system!"
>"Welfare queens" and scammers continue to game the system because that's what they fucking do.
>Mama Renal Failure dies in the field
Why are MAGAtards so convinced that there's going to be a day where the proles that deserve it(tm) are going to ever get caught?

No. 2596699

>>2596672
people are going to exploit any system. are we gonna get rid of credit cards bc there’s ppl who rack up mountains of debt and run off without paying? get rid of tolls bc there’s people who run them and don’t pay? get rid of insurance bc people run insurance scams? like it’s ridiculous. you’re never gonna get rid of people who scam and they know that. they just want a boogeyman and the poor person who’s buying five TVs with OUR TAX MONEY is the easiest monster.

No. 2596720

File: 1752095069816.jpg (188.42 KB, 1170x1145, ackluazation.jpg)

>>2596672
>>2596699
this kind of issue would mostly go away if the american economy can be reset before the reagan years where a single mom can work one job and have enough for a house for her young children quite easily. but we know conservatards would never go for it. i've learned that a lot of people behave in an amoral way if they're pushed all the way to a corner without any help and this is basically the result of that.

No. 2596768

>>2595199
>moida
That fucking killed me kek. It's hilarious to think nonnies will be getting their skincare from moida

No. 2596792

>>2596624
probably closer to indentured servitude but still fucking retarded for sure

No. 2596795

>>2596632
I really hope they don't have any direct hit/severe hurricanes or tropical storms, I would not put it past ICE agents to leave them there while they evacuate and they will die from either the elements or illness

No. 2596804

File: 1752100076160.webp (11.41 KB, 250x404, 7597409-b064771a628036dc2ccfb0…)

>>2596632
>now saying that the alligator camp is basically what happens when you come here illegally.
here's a bright idea? don't invade another country illegally(infight bait)

No. 2596894

>>2596804
>invade
jesus christ you people are insufferable

No. 2596936

>>2596804
The woman in that photo is Latina. You keep embarrassing yourself.

No. 2596971

>>2596936
So every Latina is illegal? Kek

No. 2597060

>>2596971
That's a whole new sentence, I'm pointing out that the resident racebaiting troon in these threads always ends up posting non-white women. He thinks he's moonlighting as le based white femcel using images of women he wants to fuck/be, and he fucks up every time. Same thing happened last thread.

No. 2597094

the election was so obviously rigged and it pisses me off that you get called crazy if you point that out…vance told maga they only had to deal with elon for a little bit, trump and vance had to placate elon who helped them steal the vote, and now this shit with elon being booted from the whitehouse. it's all so blatant and obvious and i am not a tin foil, these fucking fat bloated apes are ruining everything

No. 2597097

>>2596804
if only you could go back in time and tell christopher columbus that

No. 2597357

>>2597097
>if only you could go back in time and tell christopher columbus that.
So you agree unchecked immigration has devastating consequences.

No. 2597413

>>2597094
>it pisses me off that you get called crazy if you point that out
If it makes you feel any better, it isn't necessarily an uncommon mentality. It's just one of those things we are not allowed to talk about as common people. It's "not our place" since the government has plants everywhere. (something something JFK papers mensions government owns news networks) It's only people in high places with something greater to lose that can call them out, and pay the ultimate price; suicide by hanging oneself via a bullet to the back of the head.

No. 2597636

>>2596795
I feel like they definitely would and it makes me sick to think about it

No. 2598548

Any nonnas with a mapco rewards account don't forget about the 25c off a gallon sale today!!! it ends at midnight and I filled my tank from nearly empty to full for like 20 dollars

No. 2598833

>>2594572
If it was that easy to get prescribed stimulants I'd have a whole closet full

No. 2598837

>>2596604
Realistically it's probably gonna be constant talk of creating farm jobs, and then farmers are either gonna try a staffing agency and not actually post on indeed, or keep making excuses to hold back hiring, then when it's time to hire they'll look for any reason to reject candidates even though they would've happily taken the most autistic awkward immigrant before

No. 2599167

File: 1752261866091.png (291.91 KB, 826x510, racialprofiling.png)

>In his latest Fox News appearance, Homan said: “Look, people need to understand, ICE officers and Border Patrol don’t need probable cause to walk up to somebody, briefly detain them, and question them. They just need totality of the circumstances, right? They just go through the observation, get our typical facts — based on the location, the occupation, their physical appearance, their actions.”

They're coming right out and admitting they are racial profiling brown people. It's a violation of the 14th Amendment.

No. 2599190

>>2599167
Being an immigrant must suck in America right now but I also think about how shitty this must be for all the non-white citizens just constantly getting harassed by ICE. Always having to worry about having documents on you 100% of the time or you risk getting brutalized and sent to some facility

No. 2599194

>>2599167
I mean… why wouldn't they? It's not like it's the only thing they look for
This brand of nonsensical touchy feely progressivism where everyone is supposed to pretend not to have eyes and see obvious physical traits needs to die. Are you mad ICE is assuming their gender, too?

No. 2599196

>>2599194
>why wouldn't they?
Because racial profiling is illegal.

No. 2599197

>>2597094
why are no journalists are looking into this?? I feel like would have been a big story in 2020, but now it's just being ignored by everyone??

No. 2599243

>>2599196
Which is dumb
Grandma Ethel shouldn't have to go through TSA groping at the airport either. It's stupid and we all know it

No. 2599282

>>2599197
bc the DNC never cared, just like they don’t care now. kamala fucked off for months, walz just bent the knee, biden nodded off back to sleep. not that any of that is suspicious. the DNC tanked the kamala campaign and were probably relieved that the election got rigged against her. they didn’t want her to win.

No. 2599290

>>2599243
It doesn't matter if you think it's dumb. It's against the law, the US government should not be allowed to bend the law to suit their needs without consequence. They should change the laws or follow what is allowed. You can't pick and choose which laws are real and which aren't based on your ideology.

No. 2599332

>>2599290
If the law stipulates you to do things like not use your eyes then people will naturally ignore it

No. 2599343

If every single illegal immigrant was named Bleepbloopbob and no one else was, liberals would make it illegal for the police to ask anyone their name

No. 2599363

>>2599343
That's already not allowed without probable cause.

No. 2599367

>>2599194
>>2599196
They already racially profile. It's just illegal to say the quiet part loud.

No. 2599376

>>2599167
oh no, they will focus on mexicans and are gonna ignore all those blonde norwegians crossing the border illegally

!

No. 2599378

>>2599196
>Because racial profiling is illegal.
So is crossing the damn border without permission. Funny how that works

No. 2599380

>>2599363
Good lord. Why do people have to make things as difficult as possible? Maybe we should make the police wear blindfolds too so they don't actually observe anything about suspects that might be heckin problematic. They should also wear earmuffs in case they hear something that might actually help them catch someone doing something illegal, they might actually he able to do their jobs and we definitely don't want that

No. 2599393

>>2599378
No one's defending coming here illegally. Someone's visa being 5 seconds expired isn't an excuse to throw them in a concentration camp. Also ICE already detained a long list of American citizens

No. 2599395

>>2599393
People think being supportive of basic human rights must mean you support unfettered illegal immigration.

No. 2599401

>>2599395
Because usually these issues are used as gotchas and nothing else.
You can't tell me the people protesting ICE right now would be perfectly ok with them if they did everything 100% by the book. That's not the real issue that they have with them. The same people complaining about alligator Alcatraz wanted all unvaccinated in camps in 2020 and I doubt they would have had the same concerns about following the letter of the law they suddenly do now

No. 2599404

>>2599401
I'm anti COVID vax and don't support ICE. If your only point is making up hypotheticals about what people would or wouldn't support instead of just sticking to what people actually say, you have no point

No. 2599405

>>2599401
If they ignore the law for this they will ignore laws that effect other types of people. The laws are in place to protect everyone. Even if I supported deportations I do not support authority figures having the power to break the law unchecked. That's terrifying. I also don't remember people wanted unvaccinated people in camps, do you have proof?

No. 2599411

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>>2599405

No. 2599412

>>2599404
That's fair enough honestly

No. 2599427

>>2599411
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated

This was a online and phone survey of only about 1k people. Also Republicans could've easily claimed to have been Democrats to make Democrats look bad, especially since a lot of vaccine Nazis were Republicans

No. 2599432

>>2599427
I saw a bunch of people saying the same things online and IRL tho

No. 2599433

>>2599380
Boohoo the cops have to actually suspect you of a crime to stop you and ask for I.D. They can't just randomly harass citizens. Cry more, bootlicker.

No. 2599434

>>2599432
The only person I knew who was like this (made their pregnant daughter homeless for not getting the vaccine despite having a medical exemption) was a Republican

No. 2599441

>>2599434
I never saw a single republican say anything like this. It was 100% "trust the science" liberals pushing this, many who were public personalities. Do you live under a rock or something? What is this attempt to rewrite history, like it didn't just happen 3 years ago and I can remember it…?

No. 2599442

>>2599427
rasmussenreports is heavily right leaning and spins things to make democrats look bad

No. 2599445

>>2599441
This is why COVID discussion goes in the tinfoil thread, due to the Mandela effect. We're all from different timelines clearly.

No. 2599452

>>2599427
Of course it's always secret republicans making democrats look bad. Democrats are perfect angels who don't have a history of this stuff and never do anything wrong. FDR was also secretly a republican trying to make democrats look bad when he put Japanese people in camps

No. 2599454

>>2599441
Then you're probably not around republicans much. Plenty of republicans were just as retarded. I even knew a girl at work who voted for trump, admitted vaccines were causing bad side effects and didn't really do anything, but harassed unvaccinated staff anyway

No. 2599455

>>2599452
Rasmussen is an alt right group and the poll was done online. Yes it's likely they could've just cherry picked or got some to larp

No. 2599457

>>2599454
I know there were some Republicans in favor of it, even the poll shows that. but in general, the hard-core vaccine pushers were lefties. Red areas didn't have nearly as many restrictions as blue areas.

No. 2599465

>>2599457
According to the poll 25% of republicans wanted to put the unvaccinated in camps. 1 out of 4 republicans. Why not just condone everyone who had Hitler like vaccine views? Republicans don't get a free pass for acting like Nazis during COVID just because there was slightly less of them

No. 2599467

>>2599452
But people were not ever put in camps for not being vaccinated for covid. People are being put into camps right now and we know who's doing it.

No. 2599479

>>2598833
My doctor tried to get me on stimulants recently and I don’t even have ADHD.

No. 2599487

>>2599467
Putting people in camps for being here illegally isn't quite the same. They have to put them somewhere because they broke the law coming here. If they just left them at home, many would run and hide. What else should they do? They are otherwise trying to get them back to their home countries as fast as possible.
It's also not all of them, I know someone being deported and he's being treated normally because he isn't a criminal or a flight risk. He's just waiting at home until his scheduled flight back.

No. 2599489

>>2599487
Deport them like every other civilized county dummy

No. 2599495

>>2599479
I've never heard of anyone going in for an adhd dx and not getting it.
I'm sure somewhere, there are doctors with scruples. But i have not personally heard of it
>>2599465
I condemn anyone with Hitler like vaccine views. It's probably the biggest tell for someone whose opinion is garbage. But there's definitely a political party bias that's hard to ignore. My city is hard left and they were practically draconian with restrictions, but in the red areas my relatives lived in nobody really cared and it was like a different world

No. 2599499

This weather is bullshit. Can't believe we are living through a beta test of the Great Flood 2: Electric Boogaloo and its DLC content.

No. 2599501

>>2599489
That's what they're doing?
Guess what happens if you are in Japan illegally? You get detained and then sent back. They have detained people for years in some cases. Because they are committing a crime by being there illegally. Governments generally detain people for committing crimes

No. 2599506

>>2599501
>Japan
nta Japan is kind of a poopy example of everything. Hell, isn't Texas larger than Japan? Kinda like trying to use a closet for a reference on how a mansion is organized.

No. 2599508

>>2599487
If you come to the border and then declare yourself an asylum seeker and surrender yourself to authorities(legal) and start the legal process, then new incoming administration decides that asylum seeking is against the law and cancels your protected status, are you now an illegal immigrant? A lot of people came here under previously existing laws only to get the rug pulled out under their feet so the current administration can pad statistics. Those Haitians everyone was complaining about for example eating cats and dogs(fake story btw) being "illegal" actually had temporary protective status that was removed by the trump administration. So you come here legally and then the Trump administration suddenly says nah, you're actually illegal, and violently arrests you and puts you in a camp. How is that fair?

No. 2599509

>>2599499
I hope any Texas nonnas are okay.

No. 2599518

>>2599506
Japan is an extreme example, i don't think what they do is right either. But we aren't even doing that, the US is trying to deport people as fast as possible.
If the complaint is that they do not have planes at the ready to escort the people they arrest directly to straight away, I think there are some logistical difficulties with that. There are also people who claim they lost their documents or they're from a different country, so their information has to be verified. It's not just that simple.

No. 2599521

>>2599487
Tbh, I've heard people say that companies are calling ICE on their workers right before payday so they don't have to pay for their work which is kinda fucked up.
Have work you don't want, throw it at people willing to take it, then say nevermind you're a criminal lol I don't have to pay you now lolol go to this camp and do more work for free lmao.

No. 2599524

>>2599501
You get sent back but not thrown into an alligator concentration camp and treated like it's the worst thing you could possibly do

No. 2599528

>>2599524
I would rather be in alligator camp for 2 weeks than detained in Japan for 3 years

No. 2599533

>>2599528
And where do you get those "estimates" of time?

No. 2599608

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The Department of Education finally sent out official notice about the SAVE plan's 0% interest for loans in forebearance ending. Still can't believe they didn't even give people 30 days notice, but I guess the hostility is the point. I am so sick of the student loan rollercoaster.

No. 2599621

>>2599528
the whataboutism is exhausting.

No. 2599663

>>259960
They took forever to approve my FASFA and I had to drop this semester fml. Weren't conservatives just making a song and dance about "go back to school America is the best country on the planet with so many opportunities" now they wanna strip people of the things they were just bitching about us not using

No. 2599665

>>2599663
>replying to a 7 year old post
Holy fuck

No. 2599666

It sucks they dropping them in the middle like this, but it's about time for the government to get out of student loans. They are the whole reason college is so expensive now.

No. 2599670

>>2599665
KEK she was clearly responding to >>2599608 but backspaced a number. Easy to do on mobile.

No. 2599671

>>2599665
Oof, I meant to reply to >>2599608
Don't know how that happened

No. 2599672

>>2599666
College will not become cheaper. You think administration is willing to cut their own salary? It will just become gatekept to the top 10% of society, with professors suffering pay cuts and students getting worse quality education.

No. 2599679

>>2599672
If no one can afford to go then yeah it will become cheaper. That's how supply and demand works

No. 2599681

>>2599679
Law of supply and demand doesn't exist in the US. The colleges would just have bail outs or sell the buildings to create Amazon warehouses or some shit.

No. 2599684

>>2599679
they will just accept more rich international students

No. 2599702

>>2599679
It might become cheaper, but I stand by that the quality will nosedive in that case. Professors will be paid less, while admin raises their own salary.

No. 2599718

>>2599681
I'm not sure that's really bad. The modern mythology around college being necessary for everyone has created a situation where everyone needs to pay an exorbitant amount to go. Colleges charge as much as they want because they know the government will cover loans for an insane amount. A lot of degrees are jokes and don't even teach you anything for your career. Jobs used to offer jobs trainings, which they stopped doing because everyone goes to college now so essentially they outsource the training to you and make you pay for it yourself. It used to be much cheaper to go as well because college charged what people could afford.
I don't know if we can go back, but the current situation where everyone who wants to have a decent life is forced at age 18 to take out 50-100k in loans to learn stuff you could learn for free on the internet, is really stupid and unsustainable.

No. 2599721

>>2599702
They can get rid of a ton of admin. It's just like any business downsizing.

No. 2599744

>>2599718
But making college expensive isn't gonna do shit besides just create a generation where only trust fund babies are the ones becoming doctors, lawyers, etc and that alone is a nightmare if you've ever met ultra rich kids

If there's an issue - don't play with strings hoping to get a result. College to high? Cap public universities then like every other first world country did. Jobs don't offer trainings and require useless degrees? Offer tax credits to businesses that train their own employees

No. 2599745

>>2599721
Did you read anything the anon said?

No. 2599872

>>2599721
>admins willingly cutting admins
Kek.

No. 2599884

>>2593074
OD in a bathtub would be such a beautiful headline to read

No. 2599890

>>2599509
ayrt Me too. I'm not in Texas atm, but this weather fucking feels like I am.

No. 2599907

Did anyone see that interview of trump getting upset at the journalist when asked about Texas? Bit strange

No. 2599910

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as much as a lot of people in my area believe that kamala lost because of her tranny pandering or whatever, i think maybe its time that people realize that one of the biggest reasons why she lost to trump is because she was wanting to push forward with the idea of giving first time homeowners money to get that first house. and as a millennial, that felt exciting when i heard about it. but for the baby boomers and the older gen x crowds, that probably placed the last nail on her coffin because they would rather all kill themselves than see the younger generations finally have a way to move forward in terms of having buying power in the housing market. yes there are always boomers who keep harping on about how lazy, selfish and entitled millennials and gen z are, but they would rather complain rather than see us finally have our foot in the door and make something of ourselves the same way they have when they were our ages decades ago. they don't WANT us to become homeowners in a nice house. they don't WANT us to be rid of our debts. they don't WANT us to succeed. this isn't all boomers of course, but it's enough that its hard to ignore it atp.

No. 2599923

>>2599910
Giving people money for houses inflates real estate more. If you're heavily invested in RE, it's a really good idea. If you have any basic sense, a crash is ideal

No. 2599926

>>2599923
we've done it before, back in 2008. it wasn't a bad idea though it didn't do much for us long term obviously. the problem is that it doesn't solve the actual issue with the housing market this time around. you can't compete with the companies that are the ones buying up these houses and inflating the housing prices, even with the incentive. so yeah, we'd just be adding extra inflation on top of the artificial amount we're facing.

No. 2599937

>>2599718
Academia has been broken for decades, but breaking it worse is not going to actually help anyone. This is just a way to satisfy the blue collar "college is useless" faction by allowing them to experience schadenfreude. It is so malicious there is barely any pretense that it will improve anyone's life.

No. 2600009

>>2599872
How do you think businesses downsize?

No. 2600016

>>2599923
Getting people to try to understand basic economics is difficult. This always causes inflation, but people don't want to believe that, they just want free money

No. 2600104

>>2599681
Something something Art Institute something something

No. 2600122

>>2599411
>Based
>Based
>Cringe
>Based
>Cringe
well that's my lolcow contribution for today.

No. 2600959

>>2599665
nta Look, okay. Times are hard and life is trying kek


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