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No. 2503148

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What media would you say deserves the fanbase it gets? Good or bad?

No. 2503150

>>2503148
vtubers

No. 2503151

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tifs are so whiny kek

No. 2503152

my hero academica deserves its shit fandom, so does danganronpa.
In general I don't get why people complain about annoying fandoms when it's guaranteed the fandom in question centers around something misogynist. What is there to ruin?(learn to reply)

No. 2503153

>>2503148
Blue Archive. The concept of being the sole (male) teacher in a city populated entirely by animu girls with varying degrees of furriness was bound to get a stinky fandom. Also appeals to future school shooters.

No. 2503158

>>2503148
Genshin and hoyo knew how to play the cards in gaining loyal paypigs.

No. 2503161

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>>2499059
While it's true male fandoms have much lower amounts of poz, drama, and witch hunts, TIM spaces are a whole different story. They take the worst of female behavior and selectively multiply it tenfold for the powertrip. Signs to watch out for:
>huge autist moid rates (ex: retro gaming, the FGC, anything involving editing like YTPs)
>popular stuff involving or implying yuri (ex: Madoka Magica, Love Live, Bang Dream)
>outright troonslop lmao (ex: Undertale/Deltarune, When They Cry (thanks umineko))

>>2502989
Good question, I personally nominate Danganronpa for fostering a secondary culture across gaming where it's okay to call yourself a fan of something by watching someone else go through it and taking their commentary as gospel. It showed in the memes too where some streamer's cringy running joke would become a fandom staple while having zero relation to anything in the game itself (something something nagito bagels). Even today new DR fans "experience" the games through let's plays (or the shitty anime for THH, i don't know which one is worse) so i can't trust their opinions on anything.

>>2503049
beautiful

No. 2503162

>>2503148
Good: Discworld, it's one of those rare book series written by a man that has actually interesting female characters that aren't conventionally attractive but still important. I hope it never gets a modern adaptation so I don't have to see people claiming Rincewind as a tif.

Bad: Star Wars, fuck Lucas and fuck Disney.

No. 2503165

>>2503161
>the guy on the back with the blue plush
jesus fucking christ i hate moids into bluey, bluey does not deserve bronies

No. 2503166

>>2503161
The fucking bluey plush, holy shit

No. 2503167

>>2503148
The ghostface with his head back looks like he’s orgasming

No. 2503170

>>2503148
Genshin Impact. They fired their decent writers and started testing the waters with coombait, they deserve to lose money and be held hostage by homicidal incels.

No. 2503172

>>2503162
Kinda OT but Star Wars moids who shit on Disney women always come off as huge misogynists.

No. 2503173

>>2503161
I hate how many fandoms are riddled with TIMs for being autism magnets which are otherwise cute or innocent like MLP or Kirby. They always make everything weird or preverted too. The best fandoms or hobbies lean older, are boring to an autistic male but appealing to female autism like fabric arts.

I see no women in that picture, imagine the smell.

No. 2503174

>>2503172
It's been 10 years and they're still screeching that Rey is a Mary Sue who doesn't smile enough. It's legitimate mental illness.

No. 2503176

>>2503161
>I personally nominate Danganronpa for fostering a secondary culture across gaming where it's okay to call yourself a fan of something by watching someone else go through it and taking their commentary as gospel.
I don't think it's a coincidence that many Danganronpa fans are also Persona fans kek

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>>2503161
Love how all of the moids who aren't trannies are obese KEKKKKK. Sad that autist interests are filled with trannies though, it's impossible to find other women if you have one. It looks like it fucking smells in there
>Undertale
Despite having troonslop; undertale had a decent female fanbase before deltarune came out. I think it's because the female characters were well written and didn't come off as pandery. Deltarune is… definitely worse, so it's mainly troons. When it comes to the gay stuf: Alphys and Undyne were really cute and most women thought the same while Noelle and Susie just come off as yuribait for troons + all the troons are projecting themselves onto Noelle. I only notice women talking about Deltarune months into the release of a new chapter, like how alot of women liked Spamton after chapter 2.
Deltarune seemed pretty promising during the chapter one era but nowadays all people (troons) talk about is Kris being non binary or whatever sigh.

No. 2503178

>>2503173
>Kirby
>Perverted
Don’t remind me of our resident Kirby autist…

No. 2503179

>>2503165
I will never understand adult bluey fans unless they're parents, since at least they had kids. The childless ones are straight up depressing.

No. 2503184

>>2503178
Kek, unpopular opinion maybe but I would rather read all her essays back to back, than read the same 3 unfunny scrotal memes in big fandoms over and over again.

No. 2503186

>>2503176
>I don't think it's a coincidence that many Danganronpa fans are also Persona fans kek
They’re both anime games and Danganronpa has persona references in it, no shit they have an overlapping fanbase.

No. 2503189

>>2503177
theres troonslop in undertale? first ive heard about i?

No. 2503190

>>2503177
>I think it's because the female characters were well written and didn't come off as pandery.
Nah they just husbando’d Sans

No. 2503191

>>2503179
It's tolerable and kind of funny for a kid's show, but that's it. The adult fans try to make it seem way deeper than it is. There was an episode which kinda talked about infertility and they all took to social media to say how much it made them cry kek

No. 2503193

>>2503179
I don't think Bluey fans will ever be as bad as bronies or Loud House pedo fans, though it makes me wonder why they're so into such a boring show. Sure it's a nice show for kids and doesn't teach bad values, but I it's kind of hilarious seeing the adult fans turning it into something deeper than it is.

No. 2503194

>>2503193
They’re furries

No. 2503198

>>2503161
Danganronpa was doomed from the start because the fandom only became a thing because of secondary culture and consuming through the Something Awful lets play but its not the source of secondary gaming culture. People have had this same mentality with things like RPGmaker games and other VNs long before Danganronpa.

No. 2503200

>>2503189
I think some side characters have they/them pronouns, and a few retards in the fandom interpreted Metatton's quest to get a robot body as a ~trans allegory~ (in reality he and Alphys are just weebs and he wants to be become a bishie husbandobot to be famous).

No. 2503202

>>2503193
>not worse than bronies
You say that until there's a Bluey fan mass shooter

No. 2503205

>>2503200
NTA I could buy it as a troon allegory thing, that really doesn’t seem too far off from Toby’s writing (I like undertale but dude’s yuri fetish is cringy as hell, same with his gendie pandering).

No. 2503207

>>2503202
>mass shooter
Danny phantom has the worst fandom

No. 2503208

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>>2503190
Oh, and Asgore. Fanart always loves to make this dude fat as hell, which personally didn't make sense to me because he's the king who actually knows combat. What reason would it make sense to draw Asgore as fat? Just remembered it's kind of the same with Sans. He's a skeleton, drawing him as a manlet makes sense because that's what he is, but when artists "humanize" him, he becomes fat.

No. 2503215

>>2503208
This was gay men, yumes didn’t care about him.
Fujos uh…I guess fontcest and sometimes Mettaton with Papyrus since there wasn’t much fujo in undertale.

No. 2503216

>>2503205
Maybe, but it doesn't really come across that way in game. It's written more like a simple guy abandoning his roots to chase after fame.
>>2503208
To be fair Sans is pretty big boned compared to Papyrus

No. 2503221

>>2503189
I think Mettaton is interpreted as being a TIF because of his diaries + the whole "frisk/chara is nonbinary" thing. As undertale got older toby undeniably started pandering towards trannies more
>>2503190
No there were definitely a lot of female fans outside of husbando stuff, I just think sans got the most traction. I remember the whole sans fangirl thing kek, but I'm saying that the well written female characters is what made undertale bareable for women to play. If every female character was just a busty anime loli and sans stayed the same I doubt women would like it. There were always trannies in the fandom but it wasn't as crazy as it is with deltarune. I actually like Susie too but I'm not a big fan of Noelle.
>>2503200
>>2503216
>in reality he and Alphys are just weebs and he wants to be become a bishie husbandobot to be famous
Yeah that's also exactly what I thought, like with all of that human convention stuff. I think whether Toby wrote Mettaton to be a female or male originally, his story never came off as being a major trans allegory despite Toby being a troon panderer. It always read as him being fame crazed enough to abandon his family (Anyone remember the phone call segment at the end of his fight?)
>>2503208
Isn't this kind of art drawn by fags

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>>2503215
Yumes dominated the Undertale fandom kek. I remember how it actually got so big that it splintered off into hundreds of AUs, and there were people who were bigger fans of certain AUs than the canon game. Underfell (edgy AU where everyone evil), Underswap (role reversal AU) and Handplates (whump fanfic comic) were probably the most popular. That side of the Undertale fandom was actually fun and creative.

No. 2503223

>people ITT actually like Alphys

No. 2503229

>>2503222
There were like two types of female undertale fans, the yumes and the "theorists". There were some fujos but I mainly noticed women who would fangirl over one character and women who would obsess over the lore of the game.

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>>2503229
What do the Sans selfcest women fall under

No. 2503236

>>2503223
I liked the fact she was a genuinely frumpy, awkward weirdo whose good intentions/people pleasing tendencies backfired. The resolution to the Amalgamates arc was just kind of lackluster and…unrealistically positive, I think. I don't think most people would be willing to forgive something like that. Also the phone call spam got really old really fast.

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>>2503200
Since we're finally talking about this, I have two things to say about Deltarune, even though I haven't played it since 2022: I don't give a fuck that Kris has the pronounshit smeared on him because of autist Toby Fox, this kid is a boy to me. It just makes the most sense off my own intuition from playing it blind. Second of all, Kris being shipped with Susie makes more sense in writing than whatever the fuck that "Suselle" shit is. I'm not saying that because it's straight, I'm saying that because the way Susie and Noelle's relationship is written is so shallow and clearly pandering to faggots who just want another "Undyne and Alphys" couple. Meanwhile with Kris and Susie, they developed chemistry relatively naturally (didn't get along at first but Susie warmed up to Kris). Their chemistry as two good friends feels so much more realistically written with how they joke and hang out. Plus, I personally believe there's implications that Kris does like Susie. Like how if you force Kris to complain about having Susie as ap project partner, his voice will be monotone to imply he doesn't agree with what you're making him say about her. If you tell Susie you would pick her to be the friend he takes to a fair, his immidiate tone in the answer implies that Susie really would be his first choice. Then there's the Susie-themed tea, which IIRC heals Kris the most. They have the best friendship we see in the game, and there's enough sprinkled details to imply that they do have the potential to be good together, which is how "tomance potential" SHOULD be written instead of Noelle being so obviously up Susie's ass in a way that's so dumb and anime. Yurifags BTFO'd again.

No. 2503240

>>2503235
I would put them under the AUfags/lorefags because I guarantee each of those fics has at least some rule-abiding explanation about how and why this happened.

No. 2503241

>>2503237
I haven’t played Deltarune in a while but I thought you were supposed to ship him with the deer girl in a toxic way

No. 2503243

>>2503240
Fair point, I’d say they also kind of fall under a particularly strange genre of yume though
Take the Onceler for example, it’s pretty obvious the girls obsessed with him wanted to date him but since self insert OCs were pretty dead at that point they instead chose to ship him with himself, same goes for Sans girls.
I guess the idea of wanting your husbando to find extreme ‘self love’ is kinda cute.

No. 2503246

>>2503235
Yume with a Fujo soul, I always just saw it as another extension of yumefagging
>>2503237
Wouldn't say Susie and Kris as a ship makes sense, at all, since Susie is obviously written to be a butch lesbian. Honestly shipping doesn't belong in deltarune, not even because they're teens, they just all seem like good friends. I think thats the charm of Kris and Susie, not in a romantic way, but they come off as really good friends. I wish Kris was just a male too because it'd be nice to see a female/male friendship dynamic that doesn't end in a relationship/marriage/having kids. Suselle sucks ass though, there's no chemistry at all and you can tell Toby felt compelled to add some random lesbian relationship. Noelle just feels out of place, I can't put my finger on it. I just don't like her

No. 2503247

>>2503237
>>2503243
me personally I hate all kris ships because at least ime most of the people I see shipping kris with susie, noelle etc. are moids trying to do some self insert harem shit. sorry not sorry

No. 2503249

>>2503247
Kek you’re not wrong, what about people who ship him and the goat?

No. 2503251

>>2503246
Samefag but Susie and Kris are actually a good example of characters who can exist and be well liked without being shipped, of course there's some shippers but people seem to really like the best friend dynamic they have going on. Anyways Kris is so obviously a male

No. 2503252

>>2503246
>butch lesbian
And personally, I never saw it that way. I always had the impression that Susie was a tomboy who just happened to have a faint attraction to girls. Not that she's a full on lesbian.

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>>2503251
>Anyways Kris is so obviously a male
Reverse draw a girl call it nonbinary

No. 2503257

>>2503249
NTA but those are gay furry moids who are more often than not just as bad.

No. 2503262

>>2503257
Tracks. The only furry ship I’ve ever seen fujos into was Sonic shit.

No. 2503263

>>2503241
>Kris and Noelle in a toxic way
And can you explain this?

No. 2503264

>>2503263
That route where he gaslights her into killing the retarded bird, definitely came off as a waifu powerplay thing.

No. 2503270

>>2503252
Susie is very clearly a lesbian even if suselle is forced. I don't know, I don't think Bi should be the default. I'm tired of characters having to "come out" instead of it being read between the lines that they're gay. Noelle is obviously a lesbian too (i mean toby literally sprinkles the word 'gay' in her dialogue by changing the font). Surprised Toby didn't make Noelle Bi though kek
>>2503249
It's usually fags
>>2503247
The susie and noelle ships with Kris do always come off as harem slop lol. Deltarune ships usually suck unless it's with side characters. I don't know, the main cast just seem like a big friend group. Even suselle, where they're both canonically attracted to eachother. It'd make more sense for susie and noelle to date when they're older but whatever gotta have the yuri

No. 2503271

>>2503264
Oh come the fuck on anon, obviously that ship primarily exists because that's coomer scrotes projecting an abuse fetish onto these two characters. They want to imagine themselves as Kris mentally and emotionally abusing a teenage deer furry girl, so they write and draw that shit just to get off. That's not no REAL ship dynamic. That might just be the one ship even worse than Susie with Noelle.

No. 2503278

>>2503271
>because that's coomer scrotes projecting an abuse fetish onto these two characters
And you don’t think that route was an obvious shilling for them? I personally don’t care but it’s still obvious waifufag pandering.

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>>2503186
What gets me is that the similarities are superficial. Some DR fans get into VNs that provide similar experiences, like Higurashi and Raging Loop, or Ace Attorney from a gameplay standpoint, but the former are outnumbered by personafag ironic weebs who want to play a dating sim without the stigma of playing one (same reason the like nu-Fire Emblem), and that is if they play the games at all…

>>2503198
see i'm willing to excuse that let's play because it doubled as a translation for a linear jp-only game by a neutral party instead of some guy on youtube trying constantly to be funny
>People have had this same mentality with things like RPGmaker games and other VNs long before Danganronpa
huh, i didn't know that, but still, i think DR is what made it huge

No. 2503291

>>2503270
Samefag but on susie being a lesbian; The only people I see set on susie not being a lesbian are people who really wanna ship her with the male characters or just believe sexuality is fluid. I mean I don't see the issue with people who read her as Bi though, because her sexuality isn't explicit. I just think it's pretty clear she's a lesbian who doesn't really care about relationships, she's objectively closer to Kris but she crushes on Noelle anyways. She's likely an undyne case where she's written to be a butch lesbian.
>>2503278
That route is probably for lorefags who liked the genocide route in the first game, plus there's all that gastershit in the code.

No. 2503294

>>2503285
Agreed. I love DR but I never liked the writing for persona (there’s some ships and characters I liked here and there though)
It’s a little disappointing that most of them never bother touching another VN though but I guess most of them aren’t on console or have dub lines.
>Raging Loop
God that VN sucked, Chiemi was best girl though.

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>>2503264
>>2503271
Not just that but considering noelle's obvious crush on susie I also think it's also moids wanting to "fix" a lesbian. Hate on suselle all you want but I think bland yuri is better than moid self insert shit.
>>2503278
I used to cope and say "nooo it's totally meant to be a horror thing it's just the degen fans!!" but when I see toby say shit like picrel… shouldn't have expected any better from a moid

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>>2503278
Toby needs to get the fuck off the keyboard some more and let somebody else to the writing then because IF the Snowgrave route was MEANT to be "toxically romantic", I'm speechless. I didn't think that was romantic chemistry in anyway at all, not even abusively. I thought that was just fucked up manipulation with homicidal urges, anon.

No. 2503313

>>2503308
Eh, he kinda annoyed me when he sperg’d out at matpat

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>>2503297
Toby has always liked weebshit but ever since he learned Japanese he has been so fucking annoying. He tries so hard to come off as some mysterious Japanese game dev. his tweets used to be funny as fuck too. Just freeze him in 2015 forever. Undertale would've been great untouched, kind of like petscop ifykwim kek. I think it's why Alphyne is better than Suselle, one is based off of lesbians he knew as he wrote gay male characters too in undertale, while one is based off of Japanese yuri (not the best depiction of lesbians). Interesting how he kept Susie as a masc though, but Noelle is just… So trannyesque.. It's just the fact she has so many "hehe guys look shes gay" "omg gay smol bean" jokes surrounding her because she's shy and stuff. Everyone can tell Susie is a lesbian but she doesn't get that treatment
>>2503313
Oh yeah lmfao. That spergout was so gay, I remember kind of siding with Matpat because of how gay toby sounded

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>>2503325
>I remember kind of siding with Matpat because of how gay toby sounded
He just comes across as kind of a dick every time he pulls that type of thing. Yiik’s creator is an obnoxious moid but it definitely makes him come across as someone who’s not gonna have your back when he deleted the tweet he made talking about it and how he did a song for it and then deleted it immediately when no one liked the game.
I don’t really hate Toby obviously but I eye roll pretty hard at everyone acting like he’s the most perfect person ever.

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>>2503325
It was funny how the entire internet dicksucked him for throwing this melty. People were treating MatPat like a supervillain that Toby Fox bravely defeated in war.

No. 2503344

>>2503340
The matpat hatedom was so bizarre to me, he’s like the only male YouTuber who wasn’t a groomer sex pest and retired early to spend more time with his wife and son.

No. 2503345

>>2503331
Omocat reminds me of vivzie based on the amount of hate she gets for being an edgy woman with a sucessful game.

No. 2503346

>>2503344
>he’s like the only male YouTuber who wasn’t a groomer sex
anon no need to cocksuck him to hard just for being normal, there are tons of male youtubers who arent sex pests. Avgn and nostalgia critic come to mind.

No. 2503347

>>2503344
A lot of his theories were retarded, but that's a pretty stupid reason to hate someone kek. I think a lot of it was just gamers being mad because he misinterpreted muh deep serious vidya when he said that Sans was Ness.

No. 2503350

>>2503270
>>2503246
>>2503291
>Susie is obviously a butch lesbian
This is the same shit that happened with Karlach, you cannot fathom the idea of a tomboy not being a lesbian. Every woman who's gruff and big has to be a big ol' man-larping lesbian, is it 1955?

No. 2503357

>>2503345
Drawing shota and being a non gendie fujo are graver sins than anything Toby Fox could do, plus Omori getting an official manga release probably pissed people off more.

No. 2503358

>>2503344
When it comes to being male, neither Toby or Matpat have done anything heinous they're just both male (naturally degenerate), gay, and annoying. One is just more stuck up than the other
>>2503350
Susie literally likes Noelle though kek, that's not calling her a lesbian because she's a "tomboy" it's calling her a lesbian because she likes women
>big ol' man-larping lesbian
I mean she's a big lesbian, wouldn't call her "man larping" though. Kek wtf nona

No. 2503359

>>2503346
I don’t think I’m cocksucking him by saying his hatedom was weird kek, I agree that the AVGN hatedom is also weird though
>HE DOESN’T RELEASE ENOUGH VIDEOS ANYMORE
He has two kids dude fuck off.

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>>2503350
>Every woman who's gruff and big has to be a big ol' man-larping lesbian
yes !!!!

No. 2503366

>>2503357
She doesnt draw shota though.

No. 2503369

>>2503366
She drew a shirt with a boy on it that said shota
I think everyone who raged at her for that was retarded though

No. 2503372

>>2503358
Ngl, unless the character shown both attraction to men and women, susie could reasonably be gay even if I don’t completely agree. GNC ssa women are rare as is.

No. 2503374

>>2503369
she needs to work harder than that to be on the level of yana toboso

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>>2503366
Eh, I figured that she's appealing to that demographic the same way toilwt bound or black butler does, but I'm not that in the know so if you think she isn't, then I can't really argue back.

No. 2503379

>>2503358
Didn't say anything about her not liking girls, you know bisexual women do that too, right?

No. 2503380

>>2503360
Speaking of fetish shit do you guys think he'd ever pander to the "Noelle is a troon" shit? I see it so much among troons who like deltarune because she has antlers
>>2503364
(Off topic but I literally saw moids calling a historical fashie butch lesbian a "tomboy" once. I see more lesbians simply being called tomboys than I see straight tomboys being called butches)
>>2503369
Why do these retarded gendies care so much if a woman is kind of edgy? Toby used to be super edgy though he didn't joke about loli/shota shit. He was very "politically incorrect" and his fans would freak out of it but never tried ruining his career over, like it wasn't just him saying faggot he was a huge edgelord. Which I don't really care about but they never hold him accountable in the same way they hold omocat. Funny because Toby and Omocat are friends too lul. It's not like omocat is out here touching kids(baiting)

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>>2503380
>Why do these retarded gendies care so much if a woman is kind of edgy?
Misogyny kinda be like that, people take even her super obvious joke tweets 100% seriously.

No. 2503387

>>2503380
I already don't really like Noelle as a character. If Toby forces this deer bitch to troon out or to reveal that she's actually a male the whole time, will we finally admit that "Krusie" is the better ship?

No. 2503389

>>2503380
"Female fujo and shota is gross and wrong", simple as that. It's not like it's uncommon to think that way.
Furry and yurilesbians don't really matter as much, "there are women, that is good" ig.

No. 2503390

>>2503379
Yes they do nona but it's subtext. She only likes Noelle despite being closer to Kris. I don't see why people are so insistent on susie not being a lesbian, we're not trying to "tomboy genocide" but her being GNC in the way that she is and liking women makes it more likely that she's a lesbian than a bisexual. Toby wrote most of his gay characters off of what he knew about gay culture (see: Undyne also being "butch", and Mettaton basically being a drag queen/JJBA character ha). Also being written after his gay friends. Noelle being an exception. It's not sexist to say that a GNC character who likes women is probably a lesbian, yes straight and bi women can be tomboys but susie seems to be written otherwise. I'm sure there's great tomboy characters who aren't gay too.
>>2503385
They do this shit with JKR too, too bad Omocat isn't a based terve
>>2503387
I have a theory that if Noelle was a troon they wouldn't like her despite them always calling her one, they love to project onto real female characters. If Noelle was a canon troon they'd call her antlers "twansphobic"

No. 2503393

>>2503325
>petscop
I actually don't know and would love to hear about any drama or weird shit the creator did, share please

No. 2503395

>>2503393
I think it's that the petscop creator doesn't have any drama revolving around him and just left his 'game' alone and people liked it. However I will say that he always adds stuff about child abuse in his work, could just be a way of venting though

No. 2503399

Thank goodness I hate Undertale and Toby Fox lol, sounds like a lot of unnecessary, extreme autism.

No. 2503401

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>>2503390
>If Noelle was a canon troon they'd call her antlers "twansphobic"

No. 2503408

>>2503395
Nah, apparently tony domenico (petscop creator) had a pretty normal childhood lol. I like his stuff but since hes a moid it makes me a bit wary that a lot of his stories contain child abuse

No. 2503414

>>2503364
Booooring

No. 2503418

>>2503399
Same here, never liked his games and always thought his humour was obnoxious, i guess the people who likes his games are those who were obsessed with pokemon and other rpg games growing up.

No. 2503493

>>2503364
based.

No. 2503519

>>2503350
>Every woman who's gruff and big has to be a big ol' man-larping lesbian, is it 1955?
Can you even name 5 characters who fit this description? Most “big” “gruff” female characters like Abby(tlou), Ambessa, Zarya, Marisa (Street Fighter), Dorio (cyberpunk), and Noi (dorohedoro) are either attracted to men/in a relationship with one or don’t have a confirmed romance/attraction.
Some ssa women seeing characters as lesbians is no threat to you. Most lesbians in media, as well as popular lesbian ships, have been very feminine women so no shit some people want to see a butch lesbian(which already has basis in her being heavily teased with another girl). And Susie x Kris has a high amount of fans and fan content so you’re hardly alone in that aspect either.

No. 2503563

>>2503207
>doesn't know about the Applejack shooter

No. 2503812

>>2503237
You're not off the mark, iirc the demo version of the game did actually label Kris as male at first lol. I agree on everything but you missed another thing, it's almost like most of the characters are written to potentially be shipped with Susie whether seriously or in jest.

No. 2503828

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Does anyone else hate this amber / tanijrou bitch? She is the very definition of a trend chaser and always hops on whatever the hottest new series is, usually jap thing because she’s a weeb. Right now it’s chiikawa because the series has gained massive popularity from the past few months in the west. If you go through her profile and scroll long enough, you’ll see how sudden the fandom hopping will be kek. She would post about spy family of all things, which is telling because no one really cares about spy family aside from facebook tier normie weebs, she only does it because she wants engagement. she had a blue checkmark before which made me lose all respect for her (even if it wasn’t much) but i think she’s hiding the check now. That would be the only reason why she keeps doing this, but even before twitter blue was a thing, she’d constantly post about current trends anyway.
I remember she posted a video about the spy family ripoff “buddy daddy” where the little girl character had a weird pedo scene of her butt and some people were calling her out on it but she tried to defend it kek.
Witch Hat Atelier is getting an anime soon, and she tweeted about the manga for like three posts because she probably noticed how popular the fandom is on twitter, but has been completely silent on it ever since lmao. I guarantee you this clout chaser will start tweeting about it again when the anime airs

No. 2503840

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>>2503828
She’s also one of the biggest reasons why the dungeon meshi fandom because so shit. I pity og fans of manga that get anime adaptions because it’s so common for the fandom to get an influx of obnoxious newfags, especially ones who only care about shipping. She’s one of those obnoxious farcille shippers and why I hate most yurifags these days, everything seems so forced. I’m not kidding when I say probably 85% of all viral dungeon meshi tweets when the anime was airing came from her.
Farcille isn’t even canon, its just the usual baiting that these tards love eating up, marcille canonical type is a male elfboy mind you, but these people don’t care and will go through mental gymnastics anyway.
It was so funny when that annoying western interviewer asked Ryoko Kui if marcille and falin were canon and she gave a “you can believe what you want answer” KEK, these gendies and libfem yuritards were coping hard that she didn’t give in to that forced question. I’m glad she didn’t pander to those freaks

No. 2503881

>>2503237
Never played Deltarune myself, but isn’t Susie’s design obviously based on the labrys flag

No. 2503888

>>2503237
I feel like im one of the 5 people on earth who prefer kris to be a girl

No. 2503900

Kekkkkkkkkkkkkk at the threadpic (insert crying emoji)(integrate)

No. 2504117

>>2503888
Same, but I'm also sort of glad most people don't see it that way. Imagining Kris getting the OOC pornified yandere Chara treatment scares me.
>>2503812
>iirc the demo version of the game did actually label Kris as male at first lol.
There's 'murderboy' in Undertale's code which may be referring to Chara and Toby called Frisk a he on twitter back when Undertale came out, but there's nothing for Kris. You may be thinking of the anniversary stream in which one of the dads called Kris a he, Toby corrected him though.
>it's almost like most of the characters are written to potentially be shipped with Susie whether seriously or in jest.
Yeah. You could argue it's because she's the "real" protagonist or that it will help her realize that other people want her around if she isn't pushing them away, might also just be Toby making the other characters get the hots for his Terezi-inspired waifu.
>>2503297
The Halloween hack was made because he wanted more non-stereotypical depictions of homosexuality (though the design document still had misogyny in it kek) and he's been working on this game for years, he isn't going to make an entire 'correction' route just for pandering, even if he's changed from the old Robert who'd post funny tweets and actually answer questions. It is really just the degen fans who think that way.
With that said, to bring this back to fandom discourse, I do think his shift towards Japan is indicative of different fandom culture in the east and west, mirroring the wider culture in those areas. Like it's definitely also him wanting to be the cool and mysterious Japanese game dev of his dreams and meet his heroes, but you have to admit that nowadays he would never do as little as bringing up ero games in English. (The screencap comes from a fan translated article.)

No. 2504216

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>"fandom spaces are so male-centered!!!1! why are people so fucking biased towards their husbandos blah blah blah"
>check profile
>is a yume who only posts about the male character she's -currently- obsessed with
Anyone else exhausted of constantly encountering this breed of commentary and the fact it always comes from the place it's supposedly criticizing?
I wish women in fandom would learn once and for all that crying about the popularity of certain characters and/or pairings is NOT activism, and how someone's taste in fictional characters is not a reflection of their true personal views; a gachafag moid whose walls are plastered in posters of his waifus is not exempt of holding misogynistic views just because he obsesses over anime girls. Women and especially young girls focusing on male characters in their fanworks because that's what they are attracted to is completely normal and something to be expected.
But what really drives me nuts is when people are blatantly performative about it like described above, and for what reason? Personally speaking majority of the fanart I make is about female characters yet I don't see the point of all this wank.

No. 2504232

>>2504216
Virtue signaling for performative misandrists who only hate fictional men. In my main fandom, most of these virtue signalers have husbandos or are into yaoi involving characters that are hated by these people for being popular white twinks so I assume they're hoping if they asskiss, it will save them from dealing with that retardation.

No. 2504482

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Is this a thing in the original korean text? I can’t believe this gacha game apparently panders to gendies so much unless it’s fandom delusion or english tl meddling, the wikis for Cookie Run and its spin-offs even have 5 separate pages for cookies that go by “he/him”, “she/her”, “they/them”, “it/its”, and “no pronouns”.

No. 2504483

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>>2504482
Samefag, this is so dumb kek

No. 2504486

>>2504482
Im pretty sure the gendie shit is only in the english version, in the korean text theyre usually just a man or a woman. but there are a few characters who are still androgynous/genderless in the korean version too. Like for example theres a character called cream ferret who is a boy in the korean version but in the english version he's a they/them for no reason I know this because i have sunk cost fallacy for CRK and ive been playing it since launch on and off

No. 2504630

>>2504482
Koreans don't actually use third person pronouns (they don't even use gendered titles like Mr/Mrs afaia) it's a contextual language so the subject is omitted. It's purely a gendie thing to give every cookie multiple third person pronouns, also it could be a translation error because of the lack of third person pronouns/gendered titles.

I knew of a translation error where gendies thought a Korean BL author was male and got all excited citing an officially translated "author's note" chapter where the translator had written "Mr [author's name]" but I went to the author's twitter and it was a woman lol.

No. 2504663

>>2504482
it's retarded as hell but at least they're sexless (I assume, never played this game). Sexless beings can reasonably use gendered pronouns as an aesthetic.

No. 2504673

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>>2504482
the fandom has been obsessed with the cookies retarded pronouns since like 2018. they fixate on that collectively for some reason. and it becomes exhausting.
I remember the fandom used to think this character was non binary, but it was then "revealed" he was a man in an event.
they started claiming it was nonbinary erasure, when the character was so obviously always a man.

No. 2504730

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>>2504673
It's localization. Korea doesn't have it. And it's not even retired discourse as people will still attack you if you don't use a fucking cookie's "correct pronouns"

No. 2504750

>>2504673
I got told to “kys” by someone with a Cookie Run profile pic after replying “Disgusting” to a YouTube comment about breast binding when I was 17 kek

No. 2504864

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>>2504673
I played this shit back in ovenbreak and it felt like I was rudely awakened from a coma by the ice bucket challenge by seeing that game start cropping up again in fandom drama

No. 2504893

>>2504117
>Imagining Kris getting the OOC pornified yandere Chara treatment scares me.
This always pissed me off when I was younger because I did interpret Chara to be a girl (the name, plus it just made the character more interesting in my opinion) but everyone else who shared that idea either depicted her like you said, or as a generic mean girl (of all things) to Frisk. Spoilers for autism: Chara obviously didn't have a huge amount of lines or screentime in the original game, but what we do see is actually quite complex. I'm just gonna refer to her as a girl for simplicity's sake. She willingly went to a mountain with a bad reputation for disappearances as a child, hated humanity so much that she was willing to poison herself in a long con to wage war on them, and seemed quite scary/manipulative while she was alive. At the same time, though, the Dreemurr family genuinely loved her and Asriel had faith that her plans would work, so she must have had good qualities. I think it's worth mentioning that the last straw for her to "take over" in the genocide route is the player deciding to kill Asgore. It gets even deeper if you believe in the "Chara is the narrator" theory which does have some pretty compelling evidence. I don't know if it was intentional on Toby Fox's behalf but it makes for an interesting interpretation of the game, and what Chara represents in general. I haven't played Deltarune so I can't comment if she appears in that. But in the canon game it really seems like Chara was a traumatised kid who lost everything by repeating the cycle of violence, and then came back from the dead as a demon. I hate how shallow fandom interpretations are anyway to be honest. Anyway this thread really resurrected my cringe Undertale phase autism kek

No. 2504929

>>2503828
She posts like a blue check user… but for free. Fascinating.

No. 2505041

>>2503369
>>2503366
You guys probably weren't around for her deviantart and early tumblr days, she did draw shotacon

No. 2505046

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Anime coomer moids make me nauseous

No. 2505054

>>2505046
Context?

No. 2505055

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Why do people who write and draw fucked up concepts always try to hide behind "I'm a victim and this is my cope". Holy shit dude, you're an artist on the internet, nobody needs to know you got molested as a kid. Even if such a tragic thing did happen to you, how is basically indulging with explicit abuse and rape fantasies a proper cope? Don't make this more than what it is, just say you're a weirdo who's on your coomer time, man.

No. 2505057

>>2505054
Goblin Slayer resurfacing by collaborating with a coomer mobile game, but I was more complaining generally about anime coomers. The Goblin Slayer thing is horrifying because comments were more mad about NTR lol

No. 2505058

>>2505057
>Goblin Slayer
Of course

No. 2505080

>>2503900
>Redtext
Insert crying emoji

No. 2505081

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No. 2505087

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No. 2505111

>>2505055
They think the pity will be enough to get people to stop bothering them, but they made the mistake of replying to bait in the first place.

No. 2505202

>>2505057
Looking up the comments were pretty funny
>half complaining about how it's too safe/tame because the IP isn't going to have "stuff" happen to the main cast onscreen past clothes ripping.
>half saying they're only rolling for the coomer design
>a few uncomfortable with rolling for the coomer design because she's "a sa survivor."

No. 2505222

>>2505055
Why don't these retards cope by drawing actual healthy wholesome shit? Why do they have to reinforce their trauma?

No. 2505233

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>>2505111
While I don't think artists should be bullied off the internet for coomer edgy art on twitter and words on Ao3, how artists like that react to criticism or backlash makes me lose lots of empathy for them. Stop turning your fetishes into a soap box about how your art is somehow intellectual or "aligns with canon". Stop oversharing your tragic backstory as some kind of makeshift trump card that will magically make sensitive zoomers fuck off (because they don't and won't care). Stop blowing hot air about how you don't care about what anybody thinks or how you love pissing off antis, just to eventually nuke everything because you ended up caring after all. Like how do you have the balls to make and post edgy art, but bitch out like a baby when like two zoomers call you racist or something. Close the tab. And for fucks sake, stop with the "it's my coping mechanism". Just be honest and say you have a fetish, because if enough of these fuckers keep up with the "it's a cope" excuse, it's gonna make people think that people who got molested are gonna grow up to sexualize the very concept that happened to themselves. Kind of like how pedophiles got people to believe that they're basically degenerates because they were also victims at one point. Even if the abuse and rape fantasy shit truly is their cope, antis aren't gonna magically fuck off from thinking the art is gross and needs to be stopped.

No. 2505240

>>2505233
This is why I do edgy shit and reply with even edgier shit when I get eyebrows raised at my edgy shit, easy

No. 2505247

>>2505240
Yeah exactly, double down so it's easier for me to be morally superior

No. 2505251

>>2505247
Cringe

No. 2505259

>>2505251
Think it was a joke anon

No. 2505266

Kids on instagram freaking out over hazbin hotel nendoroids is pretty hilarious since
>it’s super popular in Japan so it was only a matter of time
>bringing up how “problematic” the creator is is equally hilarious since a good third of mangaka have drawn some form of degenerate fetish

No. 2505273

>>2505055
I write edgy stuff sometimes. My excuse? I'm an edgetard. Easy peasy.
I guess I feel bad for those who genuinely do it to cope but I also don't get why they have to broadcast their trauma either. If I was making dark stuff to cope I wouldn't want anyone to know, it would feel oddly personal.

No. 2505275

>>2505233
This is why the “proship vs anti” debate is so retarded to me
One side expects everyone in the entire world to step on eggshells for them 24/7 while also being huge hypocrites who do half of the stuff they yell at everyone else for doing
And then the other side are trying to come up with cope reasons for why it’s totally normal to have a weird ass fetish (I have one too but I don’t try and act like it’s normal or a trauma response kek).

No. 2505278

>>2505266
Viv is an annoying fujocoomer but that's honestly just it. She writes their precious retarded gay relationships a little unhealthy? Public execution. Meanwhile Japan promotes cp and pedoshit all the time and nobody bats an eye

No. 2505282

>>2505266
I love how obvious it is when people hide behind the moralfag excuse to shit on creators they dont like. Reminds me of how Addy hates loli but still buys lolishit figurines and supports a company that makes lolishit(Sonico). There are so many of those in the animu fandom, they will cancel someone for being twansphobic then go consoom the next lolishit nendoroid made by goodsmile company. They hold japanese crators and companies in a pedestal where they cant do nothing wrong.

No. 2505293

>>2505282
To be fair that’s not always true, they got mad at one of the artists who drew for fragaria memories (I think it was the usahana boy) because she drew hypmic incest doujins.

No. 2505298

>>2505293
>the artist is a woman
why, ofcourse. Meanwhile sanrio collabed with Onimai and Nitroplus and i dont see them trying to cancel them.

No. 2505306

>>2505298
Even though it was a Sonico collab nitroplus, does make stuff for a purely female audience like touken ranbu (which Sanrio also collab’d with) and chiral
They actually get treated better than a lot of the games from their main division since they still get featured in new merch.

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>>2505306
But why collab with Sonico and not their male mascot though? They also recently did a whole collab with onimai out of all things and i will never understand why. Its not the first time they collab with lolishit either, they did a hello kitty loli figurine with POP(artist for moetan).

No. 2505320

>>2505319
Cause sanrio is a soulless corpo and they collab with literally anything that’s profitable.

No. 2505332

>>2505319
Is this that tranime where the boy turns into a girl? gross

No. 2505335

>>2505319
Sanrio collabs with everything kek
Even franchises solely watched by moids can get Sanrio collabs because guys liking Sanrio isn’t that uncommon in Japan, especially otaku guys.

No. 2505346

>>2505335
>>2505320
I know they collab with stuff like re:zero and other mainstream moidslop but this is the first time i have seen them collab with loli ecchi shit. I am pissed they would rather collab with this slop rather than GuP.
>>2505332
Not only into a girl but into a loli.

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>>2505346
Might be moidslop but I liked the seething pic related generated.

No. 2505396

>>2505319
>>2505346
It's Japan, they collab with absolutely everything and there's no controversy

No. 2505408

>>2505365
May he rest in piss, 10/10 ryona.

No. 2505431

Do you guys enjoy anything that fits within your moral standards? i'm not asking out of malice but morbid curiosity? I see retards on twitter and tumblr sperg about shit they hate but never gush about stuff they love so I assume they never like anything.

No. 2505434

>>2505431
People who make it their life mission to moralfag about media don't enjoy anything except pointing their fingers and screeching at others.

No. 2505435

>>2505431
Yes, Sadistic Beauty for example.

No. 2505437

>>2505431
I do. I've found my stuff without misogyny or kinkshit.
It's just that I like things that other moralfaggers may not agree with because I genuinely don't think there's anything wrong with them.

No. 2505442

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>>2505435
The Sadistic Beauty side story is probably the best erotic gl I’ve ever read, and I don’t even like bdsm shit. I showed it to my gf who doesn’t read yuri and even she found it super hot lol.

No. 2505447

>>2505442
Tbh I didn't like the yuri story in the main line (not for any moral reason, I just didn't get the chemistry) so seeing her get with someone better for her was a real treat.

No. 2505448

>>2505431
Touhou

No. 2505453

>>2505431
I don't want to support terrible people irl like Neil Gaiman but I don't care about fictional moral standards.

No. 2505465

>>2505442
I hope the author-writer duo makes a new yuri manhwa. This was literally the creme de la creme in terms of lewdness. The others are too scrotey or the infantile "uwu my heart beats for another grill imposibiru uwu"

No. 2505479

>>2505453
To me a work is different from the author. As long as the work doesnt uphold the author's beliefs it should be fine. Havent read ruruoni kenshin but I doubt it has pedo shit.

No. 2505482

>>2505453
I'm more forgiving if the author was dead since the stuff I'd read goes into their estate instead. Not like it's better but I can at least rest knowing their dead and not given much while I'm alive and kicking.

No. 2505490

>>2505482
By that logic you can't support anything. You can hardly check anyone's personal beliefs before you make a purchase.
I can guarantee any raw material you buy is produced by someone with misogynist beliefs.
We pay for a product/service, not someone's beliefs.

No. 2505512

>>2505479
fair enough, I don't do purity checks on media I consume but I also feel bad when associating work with rapists

No. 2505535

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>>2505346
it's not the first time they collabed with loli anime though, monogatari got a sanrio collab at least 3 times. picrel was the most recent one

No. 2505537

>>2503881
I don't know if this is true or have strong feelings on it really but this would be an insane thing for a random nerdy moid to do kek.

No. 2505541

>>2505490
I think most people just don’t want to knowingly support rapists

No. 2505542

>>2505431
I honestly just don't care, especially when it comes to musicians. I still listen to Sewerslvt despite all the shit they did.

No. 2505549

>>2505542
>Sewerslvt
Lmao

No. 2505553


No. 2505555

>>2505541
It's just buying a product though. Even rapists have their uses to society especially if you can interpret their writings however you want and turn them into uwu shit (death penalty is a waste of slave labor imo).

No. 2505562

>>2505542
Didn't he use gore or like CP in one of his music audios? And last time I check, he straight up used Junko as quirky name to be edgy.

No. 2505563

>>2505562
I've never heard of any of Sewerslvt's stuff having to do with CP

No. 2505581

>>2505562
>>2505563
One of his album covers (Child Sacrifice) uses a picture of a murdered child's dead body and another (Starving Slvts Always Get Their Fix) is a heavily edited collage of loli hentai.

No. 2505604

>>2503162
Discworld is a rare gem of a fandom because it's mostly older fans who were there from the start. They have jobs and lives outside of a screen, and although they're generally very welcoming to gendies, they stick to talking about things relating to the fandom in fandom spaces, a novel concept to many. I'm glad that the fandom is still going strong despite PTerry's death.
>>2503828
God she's so fucking annoying. I loved the Dungeon Meshi manga and I was so hyped for the anime but retards like her ruined it. The Dungeon Meshi fandom went from a handful of fans posting cool theories as the story unfolded to endless TIFs shipping Chil and Senshi because ermagerd they're just like me. Half the meta doesn't make any fucking sense, the spergouts over shipping are insane even though basically everyone ships the same few things, there's so much race discussion even though it's not actually a problem in the manga. I swear I lost braincells trying to navigate the fandom after the anime adaptation.
Everyone screeches about how it's the best thing since sliced bread but nobody seems to have actually read or watched the series, they just regurgitate opinions at each other and obsess over Senshi and Chil being transmasc goals and the Touden siblings being peak autism rep and also they're all trans and gay. I don't blame anyone who hates the series because of the fandom it attracted.
First world problems and all but it's really depressing to lose a comfy fandom space because of retards who desperately bandwagon hop to stay relevant to other attention seekers.

No. 2505610

>>2505604
I know how you feel, nonita. The Trigun fandom was nice and quiet for years until the re-imagining Trigun Stampede came out, now I can't find good yaoi of Vash and Wolfwood without being jumpscared by Vash with a pussy. I thought of switching to het since Vash and the main girl got some good fanart back in the day but apparently a lot of het shippers also draw Vash with a pussy for that. I'm very confused.

No. 2505611

>>2505542
Fuck that retarded racist tranny his music is dog shit

No. 2505615

>>2505610
Nta but female x cuntboy??? Wtf I've never seen that before in my life.

No. 2505619

>>2505615
I'm afraid so, it's a thing in that fandom for some reason, I'm sure they've made the het ship t4t but fortunately or unfortunately (I don't know which is worse) I haven't seen any.

No. 2505647

>>2505542
I don't like Sewerslvt but I feel this way about Lapfox. I've been listening to that tranny's turbo autist music for over a decade and I refuse to stop. Literally nothing else scratches that electronic itch for me. His new stuff is ass though.

No. 2505664

>>2505535
Monogatari is at least an actual show with likeable characters with personalities and character arcs that span through several seasons. Onimai is literally just loli fanservice. Its like sanrio collabing with high school dxd or kissxsis.

No. 2505695

>>2505542
absolute dogshit taste in music btw

No. 2505707

>>2505442
The yaoi side story was great too.

No. 2505727

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>>2505707
keked at the moralfags continuing to translate it even when they seethed about how "abusive and fetishizing!1!" it was in the A/N and kept shilling her shitty "healthy bdsm" fixed version of it at the end of each chapter

No. 2505736

>>2505695
any of sewerslvts music that isnt godawful is stolen. like genuinely every popular song hes released is basically 80% stolen, its insane. just listen to the original tracks he stole from instead kek

No. 2505748

>>2505664
>Onimai is literally just loli fanservice.
that is not true. after the first eps it's just a cute cozy sol girls doing cute things show and if you forget about the bs premise it's actually fun to watch

No. 2505754

>>2505748
Nah nonny i watched it for the sakuga and there is fanservice up until the end.

No. 2505758

>>2505754
same but I didn't see that much fanservice… definitely not highschool dxd level at least. i just wished it was a normal sol show ig

No. 2505761

>>2505758
Anon please in the last episode mashiro grows his dick back. Its a very boring show outside of the animation so its pretty forgettable. I hope the lesbian rock show is better.

No. 2505764

>>2505761
>I hope the lesbian rock show is better.
which one?

No. 2505770

>>2505727
They're always moralfagging the hardest when a male character gets fucked up

No. 2505777

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>>2505770
I find it funny how the translators try to make Duna into this merciless cold hearted rapist bitch and the moid as a poor widdle victim who deserves none of this when he was a raging misogynist who fucked up the FL's career because of a vendetta. an example of the translator's endless seething kekk, funnily enough the GL sidestory teaser chapter hardly has any A/N unless its to complain about Duna.

No. 2505781

>>2505777
nta but Duna was so based for all of that. The author apparently based Minho on a guy she hated irl which was iconic of her.

No. 2505784

>>2505781
Agreed. The translators and shit fans losing their minds over Duna make me giggle. I have a lot of problems with webcomics in general but Sadistic Beauty has some highlights.

No. 2505822

>>2505695
I know, but I used to listen to his music during a really hard time in my life. He introduced me to DnB.

No. 2505823

>>2505822
Are you a fetus?

No. 2505826

>>2505823
Yeah I'm a zoomer. When I first listened to his music, I was amazed because I didn't know that electronic music could be emotional like that. Then I got into DnB more and discovered lots of other great artists.

No. 2505830

why does it matter to you guys if an anon listens to shitty music

No. 2505851

>>2505830
What does it matter to you if anons make fun of someone’s shit taste?

No. 2505854

>>2505830
Hes a tranny pedo who stole the name of a Japanese schoolgirl who was tortured and murdered (Junko Furuta) and used her case as some sort of "aesthetic" for his uninspired and derivative music

No. 2505857

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>>2505830
I don't feel like I can relate to someone if they have really bad taste in music or what they listen to makes me think they have limited imagination, brain function, whatever. Something's off

No. 2505863

>>2505479
>>2505512
In my case I don't want to support a criminal's career so if some degenerate is writing something interesting I'll boycott it or illegally download it for free.

No. 2505866

>>2505664
you can't be serious with this shit. bakemono is some of the worst harem slop i have ever seen.

No. 2505869

>>2505854
>skinwalk dead Japanese teenage girl
>disrespect her by picking the name "sewer slut"
>use picture of dead kid
>use picture of loli porn
>be super racist about people for no reason, as if trannies are above or equal to anyone at all
Why do trannoids make it look so hard to be a normal and good person? Why are they always just horrible?

No. 2505879

>>2505869
reread your question again and tell me where the oxymoron is. there's your answer

No. 2505894

>>2505647
Ugh yeah I hate that I love some of Lapfox’s music when he’s most likely a rapist. Same with Crystal Castles (sexual abuse) and Mindless Self Indulgence (pedophilia). I’ve mostly stopped listening to them now; this is what I get for having an edgy music taste…

No. 2505921

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>>2505233
They only really annoy me when they go off on normal people or other SA victims, not antis, for voicing their dislike of certain edgy stuff and calling them puritan or some bullshit to guilt trip them.

No. 2505929

>>2505869
The funny thing about Sheldon is that he's just some fat lard as pallid as a deep sea fish faggot from Adelaide. With that context he just seems super pathetic and retarded. I know breakcore as genre is like a mega autistic fly struck bit of roadkill but I do hate how Sheldon shoved his shitty atmospheric garbage into it and now every retard thinks anything with a amen break sample is breakcore.

No. 2505954

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ok i'm not one to be all "how dare you want to ship two white guys" but what's the appeal of ships like this. they look the same

No. 2505958

>>2505954
Knights, its a vibe.

No. 2505959

>>2505958
i like knights too, but not when they're twins who are ugly and have that fuckboy haircut

No. 2505962

>>2505431
That's the beauty of it, everyone has their own standards. I will join hating on moidslop that treats women inhumanely, but I am perfectly fine with treating men like shit because it's a safe fantasy compared to the real life amount of abuse happening to women.

No. 2505965

>>2505954
Are those the only two guys in the game or whatever they are from?

No. 2505967

>>2505954
>>2505965
They are a canon romance option afaik, and I get the impression people are just shipping them because it pisses moids off so much and it's funny kek

No. 2505969

>>2505965
>>2505967
actually that's pretty cool and now i want to play it

No. 2505975

>>2505777
KEKKKK I wonder if the translator thought it was going to be maledom redemption arc slop and feels cheated

No. 2505977

>>2505727
Does anyone actually read her shitty "fixed" fanfic?
>>2505535
What's wrong with their faces? They look like dinner plates.

No. 2506067

>>2505736
Not defending severslut but it's called sampling, every electronic artist does that, even aphex twin used other people's songs in his music. Hell, even silent hill's composer did that

No. 2506073

>>2505962
ngl, I never understand the appeal of femdom and ryona. Maybe my empathy gets in the way, but seeing a cute man I like getting abuse makes my blood boil. I'd rather see men I don't find cute to suffer by the hands of a bishie.(derailing)

No. 2506075

>>2506073
male vulnerability is hot

No. 2506076

>>2506075
Most can get behind that, but what does being beaten by the inch of your life have anything to do with vulnerability? Is it emotional? psychological? A barely disguised wish fulfillment fantasy?

No. 2506078

>>2506076
It's all three

No. 2506080

>>2506076
there is physical vulnerability and emotional vulnerability. additionally, when a man is beaten by another man (or especially a woman) his ego is bruised too, so the physical vulnerability becomes a mental/emotional vulnerability. they just look so cute and hot when they are crying and in pain

No. 2506089

>>2506073
I don't understand how so many women don't enjoy the idea of making a man suffer for them? It's a very intimate (and hot) to know that a man would do ANYTHING to please and impress you.
And also, why do you somehow understand the "appeal" of maledom? Why doesn't seeing woman being abused make your blood boil?

No. 2506092

>>2506089
>And also, why do you somehow understand the "appeal" of maledom? Why doesn't seeing woman being abused make your blood boil?
nta but she never said that kek, she says she can understand when an ugly moid gets beat up by a bishie instead

No. 2506099

>>2506092
I understand what she said. What I'm saying is that so many women call out femdom for being abusive and unappealing, while implicitly accepting and tolerating maledom/femsub. Again, seeing men being beaten makes her blood boil, but seeing woman doesn't? Why is that?

No. 2506101

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No. 2506106

>>2506101
What do pancakes and waffles have to do with calling out a double standard?

No. 2506109

I hate quirky JOKER HATES NAZIS AND TRANSPHOBES videos like this since it just completely ignores that he raped Barbara, I get why edgy scrotes project onto him because of this but women doing it is very “bitch why”

No. 2506114

>>2505977
>They look like dinner plates.
Akio watanabe just has an ugly art style.

No. 2506129

>>2506073
Men are usually physically stronger, so being in a wounded or vulnerable position gives the woman a bigger safety net and an advantage. See: all those romance scenes where the guy has been wounded and the girl is taking care of him and he finally opens up about his feelings as well or lowers his emotional barrier.

Femdom is also just hot because it inverses the usual roles or shows how confident and trusting the guy is (and doesn't have a fragile ego). Keep in mind to not look at the scrote polluted "dommy mommy does all the work for me" shit, but at hot men and female fantasies.

No. 2506134

>>2506129
Nyart I’m not into femdom but the whole “mommy sucks my dick, makes me and sometimes fingers my asshole” being treated femdom is so retarded to me, guys who think like that need to take a page from the other world kingdom kek.

No. 2506137

>>2506129
Idk, all that safe horny redditor bait ruined femdom for me. I can only like it if it's psychological instead of a woman beating a dude up or acting like his mom.

No. 2506145

>>2506137
Submissive female focuses on the woman as an object doing things for the male, male Redditors focus on the female dom as an object doing things for the male. The only way het femdom works for me is if there's focus on the submissive male as an object. Which is why I'm a fujo kek

No. 2506147

>>2506073
>but seeing a cute man I like getting abuse makes my blood boil
I don't mind ryona and femdom(as long as the woman isn't in some dommy mommy fetish wear) but I draw the line at cute bishies getting raped by fat, ugly faceless mob characters. Many asian fujos love drawing this kind of thing and I just don't get the appeal. I understand why moids would like something like this in hentai as the fugly balding male is supposed be a self insert for them. But as a woman, I don't get why so many fujos like drawing the bottom character getting violently raped by the fugliest creature ever. Maybe if the roles were reversed, it would be nice. But pretty boys getting raped by ogre like creatures is unbearable to me.(derailing)

No. 2506156

>>2506147
>Many asian fujos love drawing this kind of thing and I just don't get the appeal.

I like this (don't judge me, lol) and for me it's more of a "revenge" thing than something erotic, tbh. I was exposed to pretty fucked up porn at a young age due to unrestricted internet use—I remember being so traumatized by it at first before getting eventually desensitized by it as time went on.

I wanted what was happening to those women to happen to men as a way for them "to taste their own medicine". The reverse, of a woman "raping" a man, isn't as good because you know scrotes sexualize that shit—and like the posters said fem""dom"" is often just a woman serving a man.

I'm not surprised that Eastern fujos are into that, East Asia is sexist as fuck and I'm 80% sure mob × bishie is their way of coping.(derailing)

No. 2506177

>>2506156
That makes a lot of sense but wouldn't bishie abusing the mob be better then? I am from one of the most misogynistic shitholes too, and atleast that is what I would prefer. Because 3dpd men vehemently hate and feel threatened by bishies while the pig-like faceless mob character is someone they easily relate to and self-insert as, due to their rapeape tendencies and ugliness.

No. 2506195

>>2505664
Don't give them ideas

No. 2506248

>>2506177
Regardless of looks, they self insert into the what would be the "main character."
Not too mention isn't that just asking to want to see ugly mob bastards getting fucked? Do you really want to see close ups of their buttholes and crying ahegao face?

No. 2506252

>>2505664
who gives a shit, it contains lolishit so it's bad.

No. 2506272

>>2506089
Ryona is next to go on the chopping block of moralfagging.
It's too connected to fujoshit, it "centers men" and it hurts yume/het feelings. I wouldn't be surprised if moralfagging over it and how "violence to a bishie has irl psychological effects and hurts minorities and is misogynistic" becomes inescapable in a couple of years.

No. 2506276

>>2506272
??
It's already dead in the west because of that, I only see asian art of it. Also I'm a yume that likes it and I know fujos that dislike it and want coffeeshop AU ships only lol

No. 2506284

>>2506276
Tried making the point about what happens to things moralfags start to dislike seeing online, one is to connect it to fujoshi even if its not just a fujo thing.

No. 2506287

>>2506284
I can see that, but I feel like since stuff like Hazin Hotel is thriving and getting merch nothing can truly be moralfagged unless the author cares

No. 2506381

>>2506272
People already moralfag about it. Just look at the comment section of any femdom manhwa for women.

No. 2506388

>>2506248
>they self insert into the what would be the "main character."
Yeah it’s unfathomably based when they draw male self-inserts getting that treatment like Denji and Toji. But it honestly makes me sad when I see qt characters like Kaworu or Kaveh, or those guys from LaDS getting assaulted by fat ugly hairy bastards. Like I highly doubt any dude is self-inserting as them. Right now Phainon/Mydei is the fotm yaoi pairing that’s popular among women, and even though Phainon is clearly the self-insert of the main writer, it’s Mydei who gets all the mob fanart.
>Do you really want to see close ups of their buttholes and crying ahegao face?
Kek of course not. I mean, if this particular blend of porn is not a sexual thing and just a revenge fantasy for women who want to see 3D men getting humiliated and put in their place, so I made this assumption. I just felt that the fugly male character who is closer to a 3dpd scrote getting absolutely abused would make more sense. Anyway, I think I am being too autistic over porn so I will stop here.

No. 2506671

>>2506109
I'm sick of the Joker and his fans.

No. 2506695

>>2506671
It’s funny how it’s all edgy scrotes and then a couple gendie girls

No. 2506706

>>2506695
Those gendie girls are almost invariably yumes in denial kek

No. 2506707

>>2505647
>Literally nothing else scratches that electronic itch for me.
Might I suggest trying jcore/rhythm game music if you haven't already? It's also turbo autist electronic music that isn't by trannies (afaik, if you stick to japanese artists) and Renard's earlier music was influenced by it and the wider rave music scene.

No. 2506710

>>2506706
Rule of thumb
>batjokes shippers are fakebois
>superbat shippers are regular fujos
>brudick shippers are stacys
They self inserting as Bruce to fuck the Joker is pretty funny but I could see it.

No. 2506717

>>2506710
How tf do people even find the joker attractive? He's like an ugly old skinny guy with makeup on kek

No. 2506721

>>2506717
>ugly old skinny guy
Half of tumblr got wet just by reading that. And the joker’s insanity turns on the other half.

No. 2506723

>>2506707
Eh, you can still find trannies in those genres and the related A-Pop genre they're just very significantly less common.
>>2506710
>>2506717
I thought they self inserted into the Joker?

No. 2506724

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>>2506717
Clownfuckers

No. 2506726

>>2506723
>I thought they self inserted into the Joker?
No, if you look at the way they talk and draw him they definitely are more into him than Bruce kek.
I think there’s a level of weird skin walking since a lot of them write him as FTM but the still are attracted to him at the end of the day.

No. 2506733

>>2506723
What's A-pop? American pop?

No. 2506747

>>2506726
they do what? glad I stopped being a Joker fan ages ago.

No. 2506759

>>2506747
Fuck the Joker I never liked his bitch ass

No. 2506988

>>2506156
>>2506248
tou're still a porn addict who loves watching beautiful people get raped by fat, ugly men.(derailing)

No. 2506991

>>2506988
>people
Men* men arent people btw

No. 2506994

>>2506073
Cute agression.

No. 2507002

>>2506991
don't do this fake misandry crap, you're on the same bus as male degenerates who see handsome men/boys getting raped while pretending to be the "ugly bastards" or orcs(fujo sperging outside of containment)

No. 2507003

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>>2506089
>>2506075
>>2506129
but my problem is that bdsm is fundamentally cringe. maledom is of course worse but even without abuse it would still be cringe, i would probably die of cringe if someone called me mommy or if i had to call them daddy/mommy

No. 2507008

>>2506988
Nta but can you please shut the fuck up? We get it, women that don't have your taste are total porn addicts with disgusting brain rot unlike your super IQ self insert shit.
What level of mental retardation are we at when people are moralfagging about Genshin Impact males getting hurt in drawings? It's all so fucking stupid.

No. 2507017

>>2507003
>i would probably die of cringe if someone called me mommy or if i had to call them daddy/mommy
People already do that shit without BDSM involved.

No. 2507019

>>2507008
>when people are moralfagging about Genshin Impact males getting hurt in drawings
Literally who ITT is moralfagging over this?

No. 2507020

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God I hate pedo pickmes and their moid incel "feminist" buddies. What even makes a woman want to sexualize a 12 year old girl from a Nintendo game? That's assuming it's not a moid cosplaying as a woman online

No. 2507040

>>2507008
touched a nerve?(fujosperging bait)

No. 2507054

>>2507002
Why is it so hard for people to understand that not everyone self inserts into every media they consume.

No. 2507086

>>2507054
Who is saying this? Who is this directed at?

No. 2507093

>>2507054
Oh I do, but 99% of people, especially moids, are self-inserting onto the media. That's why they take it so personally when you point out the character isn't actually like their porn brainrot self-indulgent headcanon they are loudly arguing is canon

No. 2507201

>>2507008
Most of the fan content created nowadays is sexual in nature, many times abnormal so I would say it's impossible to be in a fandom nowadays without being some sort of porn addict.

No. 2507210

>>2507201
>it's impossible to be in a fandom nowadays without being some sort of porn addict
NTA but your experiences (luckily) aren't universal. In which fandoms are you nowadays were it's impossible to not be horny? I get you in the sense that a lot of fanworks nowadays -specially when it comes to fanfic- is porn-y, but there's also a huge portion that dislikes it.
I don't find hard to find people who simply create SFW art and discussions in most fandoms. The only ones I think your statement applies are fandoms for gatcha games, otome and the like, since their appeal/purpose is to make you find the characters hot so you throw your wallet at it, even if there's some story going on the main thing is the characters' appearance.

No. 2507225

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The women and scrotes in the QRTs to this is grim to see. I guess if you disguise objectification with drag queen slang its okay to treat female characters like men do. And then on the other hand the scrotes are saying “its because of you heckin evil feminists!!” to these same retards in the QRTs kek, just two groups of utter retards

https://x.com/wandapietrcs/status/1918082436044402726

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>>2507225
I am convinced that women who use that specific brand of Twitter lingo and your average incel are two sides of the same coin. I do not get the reason for this level of outrage over bland female characters. I have never seen male characters being put on blast for not being conventionally attractive. But almost every other day, I come across posts where incels and xe/xim gendie women are collectively raging over plain female characters. Like, I came across this fanart which I admit is not exactly appealing, but I fail to understand the seethe over it. And I say this as someone who was there when Natasha posted her first Fionna draft on /co/. It is just fanart. Both women and neckbeards are fighting monsters in their head over how this random piece of art somehow means that fictional women are forcibly being desexualized or something. It is insane.

No. 2507284

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>>2507225
Blazers aren't supposed to sit on you like a cheap "sexy" holloween costume wtf?
The "decuntification" yeah some fits are a bit bland but at least I'm not looking at a fetish. If anything, the blazer in the show looks accurate to how i've seen irl women wear it.
I hate these goo-goo gaa-gaa retards, why are you complaining?

>>2507003
The cat

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>>2507225
This suddenly reminded me of when scrotes threw a meltdown on twitter because this Angela character wasn't attractive enough for them. I'm not into Silent Hill, much less an expert on wtf is going on in the lore, but I'm pretty sure her attractiveness isn't what you're supposed to be paying attention to.

No. 2507299

>>2507293
Silent hill characters always looked ugly, not like that was the point anyway. I'd say the new one looks better.

No. 2507307

>>2507293
They literally look the same…?

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>>2507284
>a lot of shows nowadays take away all of their female characters swag
Do these people live in an alternate reality? They talk as if sexy female characters are some kind of extinct thing, when they are literally the norm and can be found everywhere, from 3dpd western stuff to weebshit.

No. 2507311

>>2507293
New one actually looks her age while old ver looks 40, but of course scrotes are malding that the strung out abuse victim doesn't look like a 12 year old anime girl

No. 2507313

>>2507225
I can understand why people think the outfit is ass, because it literally looks like she's wearing a Hanes white t-shirt under her blazer and it admittedly looks weird in an office setting or wherever she's wearing a business casual outfit to. If they gave her some damn buttons and a dress shirt collar or something to distract from the "plain t-shirt" appearance I think people wouldn't really care. Also if they just gave her some random earrings and a bracelet or something that would also help. It's the barebones lack of attention to detail that makes people really focus in on the "desexualization = boring".

No. 2507323

>>2507308
But anon! They lack object permeance, if there's no sexy booba lady in every single piece of media that exists that means there's none ever to them! Geez, don't be so ableist to these mental deficents.

No. 2507324

>>2507225
I hope men start using "decuntification" and "serving cunt", maybe it'll finally die off that way.

No. 2507326

>>2507324
Men say this all the time but they're all fags so does it count.

No. 2507337

>>2505431
I don't really give a fuck. I just enjoy whatever I like even if it's flawed. Moralfags are obnoxious and expect you to only like their list of approved "pure" media. If you have any differing tastes and opinions you're basically expected to not enjoy anything if you go by their standards because they assume all women must only like whatever they like and deem appropriate for consumption.
>>2505764
She must be talking about Rock wa Lady no Tashinami Deshite.

No. 2507400

>>2505777
What the fuck is wrong with translators nowadays? If you pulled this shit 10 or more years ago people would tell you to just stfu and translate. We don't need your opinions.

No. 2507426

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Are these people retarded? It’s been straight since the 70s, anyone who bothered to look up Rose of Versailles would know it’s a classic shojo where she falls in love with a guy. I can understand having issues with the writing, but if you seriously expected yuri that’s your fault kek.

No. 2507431

>>2505777
This is insane. I had to find a spanish translation of another manga because the english scanlators were too lazy to keep going and thought the story was too 'problematic.' It's been like this since 2019, it feels like.

No. 2507433

>>2507426
These gen z kids are the worst. They really have no idea how to think anymore. A smart phone at their hand, yet too stupid to look up a series from the 80s where Oscar was pining for Andre since the beginning.

No. 2507435

>>2507008
the problem is that you lot pretend you're better than men who get off to fictional women's suffering(derailing)

No. 2507437

>>2507426
ROV was never in its life advertised as Yuri or GL. I hate what modern anime has become next to tiktok brainrot.

No. 2507473

>>2503131
for Minecraft movie 2 I'm 100% sure they are going to retcon the post-credit scene and just cast Zendaya or Sweeney or some other random non-redhead on the role of Alex, Hollywood is retarded like that.

No. 2507480

>>2507426
>they MADE it so painfully straight
As if they were robbed of something they were promised

No. 2507495

>>2507435
Can you really talk about people pretending they're better than others when you're busy looking down on other women for being "brainrotted" when they don't share your porn tastes?

No. 2507503

>>2507435
I mean, I'm not a ryonafag myself but they are better, kek. I cannot stress enough how retarded the moid brain is (and how much they can't separate fiction from reality), their female counterparts are intrinsically better by default. I'm sorry if somebody drew your blorbo getting impaled or whatever.

No. 2507508

>>2507435
They are though.

No. 2507513

>>2507326
i've grown to really hate fags

No. 2507603

>>2507435
And what do you have to say about women who get off on fictional women's suffering? Nothing I bet.

No. 2507634

>>2507603
So? you're all degenerates
>>2507495
Yes I can that's the whole point(fujo sperging outside of containment)

No. 2507640

>>2507435
>the problem is that you lot pretend you're better than men
I'm not pretending.
>men who get off to fictional women's suffering
Because men also get off to real women's suffering. Not a hard conclusion to come to.

No. 2507658

>>2507426
Are newfags seriously too preoccupied with their muh straight women ruining kweer fandom ptsd that they couldn't google the plot of this movie for 5 minutes?

No. 2507725

>>2507658
Nta but ever since I saw a twitter poll where 50% of "fans" don't actually engage with the media I stopped taking accounts like this seriously kek

No. 2507813

>>2507225
I wonder how normies are going to handle the rape scene

No. 2507828

>>2507813
Moids only pretend to care about rape to silence women who talk about it. They think it's funny and cool that anissa or whatever her name is rapes mark.

No. 2507868

>>2506129
Think I came across too many loser moids with mommy issues that want women to do all the heavy lifting to ever enjoy femdom again kek

No. 2508005

>>2507725
>50% of "fans" don't actually engage with the media
Just wtf is the appeal for them?

No. 2508007

>>2508005
Social media clout through the series

No. 2508008

>>2507426
This is funny because Oscar and André could fall to the whole spicy straight "queer" category.

No. 2508015

>>2508005
Being a part of a community, using the aesthetic, having a trendy label

No. 2508079

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>>2507725
I never understood that if I get interested in a fandom through fanart or a fanfic I tend to consume all of it to understand the dynamic and plot points I mean ..isnt that fun to do? Why would you not engage with the fandom original material?

No. 2508203

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>>2504482
this made me remember that i used to play crk a few years ago. only remembered that game existed because i saw fujotifs freak out over the blue jester a while back kekk

No. 2508256

>>2506710
>>2507503
>>2507640
nta, but the fact is that you use "what about moids?" more then even libfems, if you just acknowledge your degens, people would have less problems with you. and yes, you are porn-brained, clearly not as bad as moids, but you are still porn brained.(Fujosperg outside of containment)

No. 2508279

>>2508256
>still going
Coming back with "but actually" every couple of hours isn't going to change anybody's mind, its still retarded.

No. 2508309

>>2508079
>Why would you not engage with the fandom original material?
It's far too normalised to engage with material via lore video essays and letsplayers exclusively. I know people who could give you autism superpower levels of merch hoarding who have not once played the game/read the book/watched the show/etc.

No. 2508319

>>2505266
I'll do you one better nonna, more than half of manga and anime is thinly veiled pedophilia and the nerve of the average enjoyer to call out anyone for being problematic is wild

No. 2508362

>>2508309
This shit grinds my fucking gears like nothing else. "I never played/watched X media, but I think the character is like this and has this relationship with this character and if you disagree with me you're um wrong and a bigot" yeah I know you never actually played/watched it and skipped over like 90% of it normie, because if you had actually invested into it you'd know what you just said was utter bullshit.

Heaven help you if you try to make them aware of what the actual character or relationship dynamic is actually like, that's too inconvenient to accept. It irritates me because having headcanons (fully knowing they are headcanons) is one thing, spreading bullshit, lies and misinformation about the story and passing it off as canon to people who never actually engaged with the media (and therefore eat all the bullshit up) is another. This is how we get accusations of "queerbaiting" even when the media never once actually fucking hinted at a gay relationship at all, the fandom is just too far up their own delusional asses to acknowledge it was a headcanon.

No. 2508389

>>2508079
I think people enjoy the feeling of being in a fandom more than actually consuming media.

No. 2508404

>>2508079
Thank you thank you thank you. This bothers me so much. There's so many know it all spergs who haven't engaged with a media beyond an equally misinformed 2 hour "deep dive". I will even respect people who watch silent/low talk let's plays of an entire game because at least they've seen it. Secondary fans are fine but not the way people do it these days. It's awful.

No. 2508409

File: 1746233348141.png (7.2 MB, 4064x3632, whytho.png)

God I hate what gender ideology has done to fandoms. "Haremfagging encouraged! It's progressive poly rep uwu" and I bet despite having a rule against underaged characters they still put them with the child gerudo for a threesome with the moid protag for "desert", to the joy of the incels who don't care it's supposedly meant to be progressive. How is having them fuck everyone in the game even remotely focused on the ship in question anymore? Heaven forbid you only support one pairing in fandom today, apparently you have to like everything and be fine with other ships being crosstagged and shoved in your face, defeating the point of trying to filter and stay away from ships you just don't like. Because clearly, you must only dislike those other ships because you're a bigot or something.

And lmao, love how pride month is only about men with 4 girlfriends and trannies now.

No. 2508434

>>2507002
Men raping and killing is on the same level as edgy women drawing cartoon men getting railed okayyy(Fujosperg outside of containment)

No. 2508439

>>2508434
Whenever I see people act as if they're the same I just want to turn super 5edgy3me and draw animu boys dead or some crap kek. If only I could draw though(Fujosperg outside of containment)

No. 2508445

>>2508079
While I think its important to consume the media you engage in a fandom with, I think its perfectly normal to get exposed to it through fandom. A lot of books and video games I really like I read fic/saw fanart and became intrigued enough to get into it. Unlike a lot of nonnas in this thread though, I really love making headcanons, crackships, and exploring AUs. Meta is fun for me too, but I love the creative aspects of fandom first and foremost.

No. 2508450

>>2508439
>If only I could draw though
you can always learn. don't let your dreams be dreams nonna

No. 2508452

>>2508450
I learn and then forget. My brain just doesn't absorb art knowledge for a reason sadly

No. 2508462

>>2508445
I think this is fine, it's just that the people nonas are referring to don't take the extra step of getting into the thing. They fly with 4th hand knowledge at best and dilute the fandom spaces, are generally disruptive and just don't act normal when people try to enjoy the thing they're into.

Sometimes these types of people forget that fans aren't there to hear about their headcanons, they are there to engage with the source material and through that, ideas. Not from people who thought it looked cool and wanted to be in something and then went no further

Not trying to be aggro nona just explaining

No. 2508469

>>2508389
They dont realize that they would love the feeling even more if they were in one where they actually, truly, enjoyed a specific media

No. 2508471

>>2508462
>Sometimes these types of people forget that fans aren't there to hear about their headcanons, they are there to engage with the source material and through that, ideas.
There are fandom spaces for meta posting and in depth discussions, but they've never been the most popular aspect of fandoms, for the most part. When I get into fandoms, I really do love talking about headcanons, from what I think a characters sleeping habits would be, to what they'd study in college, ect., and so, I enjoy seeing what other people write too. I've seen a few anons say they don't get noncanon shipping or AUs or anything like that, which just comes off to me as a lack of imagination.

No. 2508509

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I hate this horrible combination of troonism and fujoism(fujo bait)

No. 2508514

>>2507426
I have no doubt they never watched or read the manga lol, just went off "vibes" or some shit.

No. 2508518

>>2508509
One of many reasons I'm not a fujo. You have to agree with all the troon shit these days

No. 2508526

>>2508509
It's a strange escalation of fetishes, the uke is now a transfem because fujos and fujos know deep down that tims follow misogynistic stereotypes(fujosperging)

No. 2508531

>>2508518
Only if you’re a coward

No. 2508570

>>2508514
I've read it, iirc the older brother doesn't really talk to the younger brother at all, something about how he's weak and must ascend with the football or some shit. The younger brother is an angry autist.
Actual fujo wise, the older brother (the not a tranny) is usually considered a bottom and the younger brother is usually top but does get shipped as bottom with the mc (the right pair). Not into the west side of the fandom though.

No. 2508585

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No. 2508617

>>2508509
Are we not allowed to make any fujo related fandom posts itt? I am not the retard who keeps derailing and baiting about fujos being pornbrained and TIFs. If anything, I am a fujo myself. I just hate that specific brand of gendie fujos on shitter. But any post that mildly goes into fujo territory gets marked, so I am confused.

No. 2508651

>>2508471
Ayrt and don't mistake, I agree with you about thinking about non canon stuff. I don't engage in anything online but I have text files, notebooks, drawings, etc full of AUs, non canon, my own thoughts and expansions to the characters and their worlds even connecting them to other series and meta… But at the same time, the type of fan I'm making this point about are people who don't have the basis of knowing the canon. People who see a character or go off of thing-core style brainless tiktok memes or something and infect a fandom space with it. Maybe it's because series give me so much to think about, it's very difficult to imagine engaging so shallowly in something to the point that they don't even engage, they just ride off of meme posts and fandoms they don't engage in as an extention of their attention seeking behaviors online.

I think that's what it is at its base, that this boils down to "look at me and what I'm into" but they aren't. I think that actually engaging with the things theyre sperging so loudly is the bare minimum of a request.

No. 2508659

>>2508617
Guess it's because it baited the fujo sperg into saying shit.

No. 2508668

>>2505041
Not just this, but the the fiasco around Omori even coming out and her misusing the funds for her clothing brand.

No. 2508674

>>2504673
>I remember the fandom used to think this character was non binary, but it was then "revealed" he was a man in an event.
kek this post reminded me of an anti-Devsisters tumblr blog that would try to look for something "problematic" every single time the game updated. that blog was also one of the people that complained about Devsisters """"misgendering""""" cinnamon cookie because his newest costume at the time called him a bunny boy. Looking back I think it was just projection because one of the mods who now draws touhou fat fetish art "kinned" dark choco along with cinnamon cookie and would always get really mad whenever someone didn't use they/them pronouns on those two

No. 2508684

>>2508079
Did a nun take this picture?

No. 2508686

>>2508471
>but they've never been the most popular aspect of fandoms, for the most part
It really depends if we're talking about on going series or finished stories. When an anime, manga, series of novels, tv show, etc isn't over yet people will talk about everything meta all the time because they want to know what's going to happen next. That's what was going on with the HP novels, absolutely everyone was arguing over who would die between Harry and Voldemort and going into details over it. Even shipping discourse was often about how the last novel would end so the discussions about pairings right now are very different from how they were back then. Even teen magazines that talked about pretty much anything had a bunch of pages about how fans expected the final battle to end a few months/weeks before the last book was released. I've also seen JJK being a trending topic on twitter during its last arc and as soon as the manga ended people talked about it a lot less because there's no need to argue over who's going to do what next week.

No. 2508710

>>2508686
Nta but I think it depends on the type of fan. There are fans that are more into fanfiction/creative projects than the source material and will usually wait until a season or arc is over to read it because it's more of just a part of what they have to do, and fans that keep up with something by week and are willing to discuss it per episode/chapter. The latter used to be the mainstream type but it's changed alongside the internet. A lot of the time, source material is something to bounce off of.

No. 2508712


No. 2508914

>>2508319
depends what you consider pedophilia lmao

No. 2510327

File: 1746347264383.png (201.26 KB, 904x1188, fanfiction.png)

pathetic

No. 2510333

>>2508309
>merch hoarding who have not once played the game/read the book/watched the show/etc.
I always thought they were collecting it as an investment to sell it later? Is that not right?

No. 2510335

>>2510327
> Discussing the agony of immortality due to loving mortal beings
I can't explain it but the way this is phrased makes it clear she's brainrotted herself on "queer media" youtube video essays with an older zoomer quirking their eyebrow in the centre of the thumbnail

No. 2510424

seeing black twitter and white fandom clash together over sinners has been really entertaining to me. i see black fandom women complaining about a certain ship being more popular than another and then someone berating them like "shipping is for white people" and them instantly trying to go back on their own word like trying to act like they aren't a fandom nerd lmao. also the first time i have ever seen "toxic yaoi" invade black twitter. god help me

No. 2510480

>>2510424
Sinners has a Tumblr-like fandom already? I didn't think that movie attracted that kind of people, guess nothing is safe these days

No. 2510503

>>2510335
I'm disgusted by how accurate this is. As a side note, I wish this type of YouTuber would leave niche games they weren't alive for, didn't play and don't understand alone. A 2 hour deep dive that's cobbled entirely from other, better videos, worse videos and their own uneducated opinions on a topic. This goes for anything from games and shows they don't understand (especially trying to apply current standards to media from the 90s/early 2000s) to societal topics they've only had to think about theoretically and may not have experienced. Sperging off of your post but this is a serious irritation of mine.

No. 2510665

>>2510327
If fanfic is so much better than published fiction then what would fanfic draw from? A vacuum?

No. 2510683

>>2510665
Tbf, a lot of time it basically is headcanons, oc, and amv or two, and a glance at the wiki page.

No. 2510831

>>2510327
I like reading fics but c’mon guys, the vast majority of women (including me) just read it to schlick

No. 2510834

>>2510327
For each masterpiece you can find 100 fanfics that are nothing but slop so I can see where these replies/quotes come from but I disagree. And even if you have good ideas for a story that doesn't mean you can write them well. Which makes me miss kink memes on lj a lot.

No. 2510840

>>2510834
I’ve only read about one fic which I truly found to be well written literature and not just
>haha I’m horny now
surprisingly it was a force fem fic

No. 2510847

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>>2510840
Umm… thanks for letting us know, I guess.

No. 2510880

>>2510480
yes, but it's also the highest-selling movie in the US behind captain america rn so that's bringing in like everyone

No. 2511498

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I honestly wonder if these kinds of commentators even remember the canon versions of the ships they obsess over, like they probably see viktor as an ultra-feminine, young woman rather than the sickly-looking man he actually is.

No. 2511501

>>2511498
The beauty of science ig? There's plenty of male characters that are in love with themselves, forcing headcanons onto popular series because they can get attention and community that way instead of looking at content that actually have those qualities is why fandom is centered around few big and popular things instead of having more variety.

No. 2511504

>>2511498
Is that Oikawa?

No. 2511509

>>2511504
mte both in looks and personality makes way more sense than victor

No. 2511513

File: 1746428616709.jpg (Spoiler Image,60.48 KB, 680x614, Fuckoff.jpg)

>gk blew up on twitter
>a 12 year old girl whо was borm in a tribe amd meiji era
>they headcanon her as trans
I hope these motherfuckers a-log themselves. I am afraid what they'll think of Ogata. Anime adaptation has failed to capture the important moments that show some of the character dynamics and such, so it's gonna get even worse.

No. 2511515

>>2511513
the funny thing is that there is a canon trans character in the manga, he's a serial killer who mutilates people and uses their skin to stay younger, he even attempted to steal the little girl's eyes for himself. that's perfect troon representation

No. 2511594

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who wants to bet the "brother" is also a tif

No. 2511648

>>2511594
>starscream as the dead baby
Even when he was constructed aka born in nerd transformers speak the same time as megatron? Can these fucktards read the actual material before pretending to be fans?

No. 2511663

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thoughts?(fujo bait)

No. 2511666

>>2511663
Kiwifags are subhumans whose opinions don’t matter

No. 2511679

>>2511663
I hope any kiwifags reading this commit suicide.

No. 2511681

>>2511663
Kinda based that fujos could make a kiwifag seethe this hard to the point of dedicating a whole account to it.

No. 2511692

>>2511663
>stop shipping gay and ship het instead!!
every single time

No. 2511698

>>2511663
wait until this person finds out theres fujos who also like some het ships

No. 2511707

>>2511648
>the same time as megatron?
Wasn’t he older than Megs in the IDW comics?

No. 2511708

>>2511663
>stay mad fujos
You seem way more pissy than the fujos…

No. 2511710

>>2511663
Is this person a salty yume who's made fujos refuse to make content for them? What's stopping people like them (I'm not sure if they're a man or a woman) from making their own stuff? There's no shortage of het and lesbian pairings in the wild.

No. 2511717

>>2511663
Kek is this that one woman with the big nose that would shout the n word on stream? I forget her name but she was also a kiwi

No. 2511718

>>2511594
this would be the worst rendition of ghost-starscream, hands down

>>2511648
tbf canon ages are usually vague and continuity-dependent, so I don't think that's really the main sticking point here kek

No. 2511719

>>2511663
She probably camps in the anti-fujo thread here kek

No. 2511723

>>2511717
>that one woman with the big nose
Is that why her icon is Pinocchio

No. 2511725

>>2511723
Probably because Pinocchio wanted to be "a real boy" because he's made of wood which sounds like a TIF metaphor i guess?

No. 2511968

>>2511719
>Jayvik
Everytime… I don't want to say it because it'll be taken the wrong way and I really don't mean to offend, but the baggage around Mel is so fucking distracting.

No. 2512068

>>2511594
How many times do I have to see this cursed image?!

No. 2512165

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googling ao3 and the first result besides the site itself being harry potter fanfic is so funny. no one cares about tranner feelings

No. 2512169

>>2511594
always makes me laugh

No. 2512181

File: 1746474441975.png (8.25 MB, 3991x4096, GqAmM8jaEAAToX_.png)

I feel like fandom still has the female version of "reddit sexuality" where they can't just normally talk about regular heterosexual ships. they have to subvert it by making the guy fat, short, bald and or ultra feminised even though he's not canonically depicted as that. the woman has to be his "mommy dommy" or something and can't show attraction like a normal person. I don't even know how this started but it got really bad about 3-5 years ago.

No. 2512187

>>2512181
It’s still weird to me that the characters are meant to be in their 30s, they look about the same age as everyone else (late teens)

No. 2512191

>>2512187
lol, I remember her earlier work where she drew a character who was supposed to be a middle aged mother or something and she literally looked exactly like her teenage self, just with longer hair.

No. 2512192

>>2511498
Arcane Viktor?? He probably doesn't give a fuck about his appearance except worrying about how frail he is.

No. 2512335

File: 1746481752547.png (63.25 KB, 654x436, IMG_2181.png)

>>2512181
here's the definition usually used for moids

No. 2512339

File: 1746481824243.png (548.97 KB, 1080x460, IMG_2182.png)

>>2512335
here's an example

No. 2512346

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>>2512339
Also this

No. 2512383

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>>2512187
Hyuna is 27 and her age isn’t that much of a stretch for me. She reminds me of other 27-28 year olds I know, including her attitude and facial features. But Luka I see him as like those plastic unnatural-looking 30-something idols kek

No. 2512386

>>2512383
The fact people itt think a 27 year old woman should look like a grandma is proof this is Underage Central kek

No. 2512387

>>2512335
Am I redditsexual if I like GNC women, butch women, and bishies?(blogposting)

No. 2512394

>>2512387
No, you’re just bisexual.

No. 2512415

>>2512387
You are if you think women can be buff and still have boobs

No. 2512418

>>2512339
I remember blue archive fans being upset by that blonde character

No. 2512421

>>2512415
Kek do you think boobs simply go away when a woman develops nice strong arms?

No. 2512438

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>>2512415
fake bi/lesbian detected

No. 2512446

>>2512339
Why are men such faggots

No. 2512450

>>2512421
To reach the muscle definition portrayed in pictures like these >>2512346 >>2512339 you need to surpass a level of leaness that garantees tit loss, especially since the breasts are mostly fat. Plus when you get nice devloped pecs your boobs sort of blend into them, making them seem smaller. Source: me

>>2512438
Horrid bolt ons ew

No. 2512535

>>2512421
Ngl, seeing some nonnas act spergy over fictional muscle women is both funny and oddly sad. They aren't real and I feel like it's a bit pedantic to get your pants in twist over the realism of boobs and muscles. I just hate it because most redditsexuals will start fuming over actual gnc men and women but hyper-feminine men and hyper-masculine women is fine in their books.

No. 2512539

>>2512438
C'mon anon, Chyna had implants and was on roids

No. 2512546

>>2512187
IRl the signs of aging can be quite subtle and it would be unrealistic to expect illustrations to be able to capture small details like fine lines and periorbital fat loss. That's why a lot of illustrations defaults to shortcuts to denote age (like making the women more curvaceous with age or giving men facial hair) but a lot of those shortcuts are often unrealistic.

If you're going to draw adults in their 30s who aren't rough as shit and mildly fashionable they are going to look similar to teenagers in most simplified art styles. Not every artist wants to do things like giving a guy a mustache just because he turned 30.

No. 2512551

>>2512181
>fat, short, bald and or ultra feminised
It's amusing because I've never met a dominant woman genuinely attracted to men like that or interested in being a "dommy mommy." Of course they subvert it by copying moid fantasies.

No. 2512594

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Anyone else realized that only westerners take offense to ''animufied'' or light-hearted reimaginations/fandomization of war events and war related stuff? i have been thinking about how the countryball ''fandom'' is hated and problematic in the west while hetalia and other anime/games that make moe gijinkas of blattleships, tanks, and aircrafts are beloved and insanely popular in Japan. So many westerners(cof cof addy) have such a hateboner towards things like Hetalia, meanwhile japanese games make animu waifu gijinkas of battleships that were extremely anti-japanese, like the USS wahoo, which had a row of flags that were meant to represents all the japanese ships sunken by it. I would expect Japan of all countries to be the more sensitive about WWII.

No. 2512612

>>2512594
>expecting japan to care about history
I mean this in the least racebait wait possible but the japanese literally don't care about any war history/racism against themselves unless it's coming from the Chinese or Koreans.

No. 2512623

>>2512594
you should check out hetalia's asian community instead of gacha masturbation slop so you can discover how wrong you are

No. 2512626

>>2512594
Anime and war is unnecessary tbh, Americans taking offense and using therapy/morality/race/justice speak to bruteforce their way into getting what they want is a huge stereotype, saying this as an American.

No. 2512674

>>2512623
Care to post screenshots then? ofcourse i wont know about hetalia's asian communities i cant speak any of their languages.

No. 2512761

File: 1746511794287.jpg (109.57 KB, 735x1084, queering incest.jpg)

>>2512181
The tried and true method is to headcanon whatever M/F pairing as both bisexual and therefore a queer qouple(TM). If people can do it for the Lannisters in ASOIAF they'll do it for anything

No. 2512827

>>2511498
Viktor is literally my ideal man, but I've had to hightail it away from the fandom since season 2 because his 'fans' are fucking insufferable. I know this is an overused zoomer phrase but that character is a grown ass man with dick and balls, not your ultrafem twink TIF waifu. He's attractive because he's just as hard and wiry as he is frail, as grumpy as he is kind, as set-faced and handsome as he is soft and pretty but these people will slice and dice his personality to unrecognisable heights just to fit their porn-rotted ao3 headcanons, and I say this as someone who initially liked JayVik.

No. 2512834

>>2512827
He's a tumblr sexy man he's bound to attract that type of cringe fangirl

No. 2512840

File: 1746521462512.jpg (357.49 KB, 2048x1072, azur.jpg)

>>2512594
As a historyfag I couldn't give less of two shits about fictionalising military persons and historical events but I cannot fucking stand that the only interpretation moids seem creative enough to come up with time and time again is the slutty navy ship anime girl No.267489, like your picrel. They always have 0 historical accuracy whatsoever, moids who play these games and pretend to have an edgelord interest in history should be relentlessly mocked the same way women who fake an interest in literature for the aesthetic are bullied online. If I could I would take a molotov cocktail to the HQ of every military waifuslop gacha company in existence and watch them burn down with glee.

No. 2512841

>>2512840
>Azur Lane
They sure aren't missing with their big tittied, "thicc" waifus in their loincloth fetish

No. 2512845

File: 1746521826082.png (850.82 KB, 884x1024, Arizona.png)

>>2512840
Azur lane is shit but their version of the USS Arizona is fucking hilarious, i cant help but love the absurdity of making an animu girl version of one of the ships that were sunk in pearl harbour and giving her a belt that resembles the actual memorial for the event. KC at least maintains the military theme amongst the characters, but azur lane is straight up slop. Moelitary slop is my biggest guilty pleasure so i am biased, i wish more otaku women were into it i would kill for male versions of moeslop like strike witches, kancolle and gup.

No. 2512848

>>2512845
>giving her a belt that resembles the actual memorial for the event
Kekkkk

No. 2512851

File: 1746522544225.jpg (73.15 KB, 800x900, 1521811304200.jpg)

>>2512845
>i would kill for male versions of moeslop like strike witches, kancolle and gup
Gross.

No. 2512855

File: 1746523048778.webp (47.91 KB, 860x391, 49.webp)

>>2512848
Her design is insane. She looks(and is) generic as shit to the untrained eye but if you know anything about the ship and its history it becomes insanely funny and so utterly bizarre
>her crying is a reference to ''the tears of arizona'' from the oil thats still leaking after the wreck
>she's sitting on the part of the ship that was struck by japanese plane and made the ship explode and sink
>the fucking memorial belt
>most of her quotes are depressing as shit, ruminating about the tragic event
The other kancolle waifus are fucking ugly and trashy so it took me by surprise to see how well designed(for a shitty waifubait) USS Arizona is.
>>2512851
You ship mio with that minna bislut your opinion literally doesnt matter.

No. 2512862

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>>2512855
Minna is a reformed ex-heterosexual, Miopussy cured her wicked ways forever. Now leave muh military CGDCT alone, you already have military themed bishie shit everywhere. Go jerk it to shogun faggots or something.

No. 2512864

>>2512855
Don't engage with the personalityfag impersonator.

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>>2512864
>impersonator(avatarfagging/personalityfagging)

No. 2512877

>>2512862
>you already have military themed bishie shit everywhere
if only this was true, the only one is Hetalia.

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>>2512877
>sengoku basara, tokuen ranbu, galactic heroes, whole fucking gundam and most of the mecha genre, every anime adaptation of JP wars plus six gorillion more anime i'm not even aware of
You've got both serious and non-serious full of scrote characters in military/war settings, I don't get the complaint. Meanwhile military anime with female leads and mostly female cast is limited to GUP, Haifuri, KanColle, Azure Lane, Strike Witches, Upotte, Sengoku Collection, Sora no Woto, Kotobuki, Izetta, Toji, and a couple mecha like AKB, WfM. Maybe throw in Bee Train's girls with guns too if you're desperate.

No. 2512891

>>2512890
All of that is cringe samurai slop, i am talking about WWII themed military anime.

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>>2512891
You can always watch one of the dozens of high production WWII movies.
>All of that is cringe samurai slop
It's cringe and boring because it has m*les in it. Shit hits different when it's cute girls in high stakes homoerotic friendships.

No. 2512901

>>2512890
Gundam has been lost to the yuri, it is kinda funny that all the male stuff you listed are all pretty old and scifi/samurai and not what was asked for.
You should have mentioned Golden Kamui, at least.

No. 2512906

>>2512890
Feminism is watching hot scrotes die on the battlefield and jerking it to their bloody corpses btw #keepmilitaryslopmale

No. 2512907

>>2512899
Its boring because only japanese people find japanese history interesting.
>>2512901
>Golden Kamui
GK doesnt have cute male characters. The only male equivalents are Hetalia, Aoharu x Kikanjuu and that one failed animu about gun gijinkas. Waifufags live on easy mode.

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>>2512901
Literally ONE(1) instance is yuri (and highly sanitized) you retarded hetshitter, two if you count the ancient VN I guess.
>You should have mentioned Golden Kamui, at least.
I don't watch shit with m*les in it.

>>2512906
I can't arse myself to give a shit about scrote characters they are literally not interesting. If someone gotta die for tearjerking purposes it better be a female character so I can care.(infighting)

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>>2512909
Yuri/waifufags live on easy mode and still complain.

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>>2512907
Waifufags think that the mere existence of male characters is equivalent to their waifus when there is a 20% chance across the board of a male character being even remotely husbando material. Plus I have never seen a female anime character in my life who is ugly or isn’t at least designed to satisfy some moid’s hyperspecific fetish.

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>>2512911
You literally have all of yaoi at your disposal which rivals the waifu industry. Just husbando some AIDS-ridden faggot. And anyway, when companies decide to create all-bishie cast media it always panders to hettoid women. We lesbians have to live in a society.

No. 2512915

>>2512913
>You literally have all of yaoi at your disposal which rivals the waifu industry
The moe industry is bigger and inescapable. Why are you acting like its some niche shit? some of the most popular anime of all time have waifu and yurislop in them. Madoka magica would not be as widely popular and accepted if it had yaoibait and bishies.

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>>2512913
> Yaoi rivals the waifu industry
Holy kek. There’s no way you genuinely believe that, Nona.

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>>2512915
The yaoi industry is not minuscule either. The only reason yaoi flops in anime is because the medium is controlled by moids so all the yaoi out there is low production value and fujos also won't buy the fucking brurays. Same with motherfuckingg shoujo there are a gazillion shoujoslop magazines with ripe bishies, you could husbando a stoic rapist Sasuke clone any time.

No. 2512924

>>2512917
The BL division of Mappa just closed, yuripedo. The YOI movie got cancelled despite the BDs selling like hot cakes. We get one real BL anime every few years. Its over. Meanwhile waifuslop still floods the seasonal charts. I would never leave my room if i was a waifufag because of the sheer amount of VNs, games and anime there is for waifufags. There isnt a single yaoi equivalent to stuff like valkyrie drive. I honestly blame fujos for this tbh, they mostly focus on making fan content and never venture towards original games or niche media.

No. 2512929

>>2512919
This anime has like three million waifus and like 3 decent husbados. What a waste of time. Just watch Aoharu x Kikanjuu or Senjushi if you like cute guys with guns. If moids dont subject themselves to bishie anime for a single decent waifu i am not cucking myself for shitty husbandos either. Give me fully husbando/yaoibait or gtfo.

No. 2512933

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>>2512919
>Gquacks
Kek it's not yuri where the fuck are you getting this from, some retarded delusional tranny with soldered goggles or what.

>>2512924
>The BL division of Mappa just closed, yuripedo. The YOI movie got cancelled despite the BDs selling like hot cakes. We get one real BL anime every few years. Its over.
Is this the fujoshart shoah.
>There isnt a single yaoi equivalent to stuff like valkyrie drive
I remember getting my eyes raped by fujos in a forum that posted a porny yaoi anime when I was 13 so I'm sure it exists and it precedes VD.

No. 2512936

>>2512933
I know you are esl but you cannot be this dense lol just be happy you can enjoy thousands of hours of yuri and waifuslop.

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>>2512936
And fujos will cope and seethe.(fujo bait)

No. 2512945

>>2512929
>Three million waifus
You don't have to make up stuff if you didn't actually want a rec. Almost all teams in the series have a ratio of 3 guys to 1 girl, the series has a very popular female fanbase because of the large amount of male characters to choose from. That being said, I should have known better than to actually try to give a rec in this place.
>>2512933
If the og Gundam counts despite Char and Amuro having female love interests, then yurifags should count the opposite. You're a grown up, you can handle a newtype that's probably going to die.

No. 2512954

>>2512939
Nona you are literally the archetype of the obnoxious yurifag who drags down your own community in the eyes of everyone else by constantly sperging about how lewding women makes you a victim, please reflect and do better for the sake of all the friendly and normal himejoshis out there

No. 2512963

>>2512939
Why do you hate straight women so much? Not to sounds accusatory, but it always felt like some war or contest to see who gets the most pandering in media instead of uplifting each other in a world that hates us unless we surrender our bodies to domestic labor and babies. I do admit I like bl but I also enjoy het, because you know why? I like men, as unfortunate as that is. But once in a blue moon I find a yuri–tbh a lesbian/bi story–that isn't waifu pandering slop and actually depicts women as people. Those don't often grace my purview, but it sure beats hyperfixating on anime literally meant for men.

No. 2512966

>>2512939
Are you even a lesbian? You sound like those tryhard pickmes with himetranny friends to pander to, with a "himejoshi lesbian" in bio.

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No. 2512991

>>2512966
Someone pro-troon is baiting in the gender critical thread right now, just saying.

No. 2512993

>>2512966
Most of these people are oftentimes straights overcompensating for something. She's as gay as a lez-for-pay hooker.

No. 2513019

>>2512890
None of the male focused anime you mentioned are moe, the nonna you were responding to specified moeslop.
Pedantic note: naming two times as many female focused military slop as you did male focused ones does not help your argument kek and you only mentioned actual anime, if you got into VNs you would have even more stuff for your taste.

No. 2513029

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>>2508409
The way the TIF handmaiden that made this calls any discussion of misogyny "demonizing men" and then posts this. People like her piss me off so bad. They don't even know what radfems stand for lmao

No. 2513033

>>2513029
several times while working in childcare I could tell the scrotelets would grow to be abusive because of the way they treated each other and especially girls and if I tried to correct them, the parents would tell me off because they're learning this shit at home. she sounds like boymoms who think boys can do no wrong whatsoever.

No. 2513053

>>2513033
She does sound exactly like them. And she says shit like this while having the audacity of calling other people in the fandom "bootlickers" for being straight/in a straight relationship or liking "cishet" headcanons of characters instead of trans ones. That makes you a "straight bootlicker" to her, but men can do no wrong and are oppressed, apparently.

Also stated on an alt blog that at work she got mad when parents of the children under her care referred to her as a woman or asked when or if she would have kids of her own (this made her mad enough to make a comic about it, apparently), and implicated she teaches the kids trans ideology.

Also despite the "cishet booklicker" thing, her and her friends defend lolishit and haremslop the scrotes in the fandom love, and their group seems to think everyone in the fandom should be okay with seeing every single ship and every kink in the tag for one of them, or you're an evil sex-negative puritan bigot. I'm fucking tired of these brats. If this is what all fandom is now and who you have to deal with at cons, then I really feel like giving up. You can't even try to curate and maintain boundaries by blocking because they whine about mass-blocking, too.

No. 2513063

>>2513053
imo these people are the biggest culprits of mass blocking. I have a friend with a relatively big following and she was put on so many no follow lists on twitter because she never implied she was anti or proshipper so people from both sides added her on their blocklists, but the majority of it was people who were against antis and against any sort of boundary because she didn't want to draw teenagers.

No. 2513076

>>2513063
Remember when Tumblr was the Wincest site and now it's devolved into this weird civil war shit

No. 2513103

>>2513076
Genuinely insane how black/white fandom became. What happened to the "Dead Dove" warning? Why are people suddenly acting like it's the hardest thing in the world to just not interact with content and users they KNOW they don't like? It has to be teenagers being the main culprits of acting like nothing uncomfortable is allowed to exist on the internet, but what actually started this wave?

No. 2513105

>>2513063
How very typical of "proshippers" in my experiences with them. They are usually hypocrites. It's all "respect preferences" until someone simply doesn't like their porn of kids or want to create it.

I once used to be on their side of "just fiction" until I met so many of them (especially moids) that are definitely not beating the allegations "antis" throw at them. I'm talking "erm well aksually the irl age of consent in x country is-" tier excuses.

Honestly, the whole "what you make doesn't reflect who you are" was copium anyway if you ask me. You gravitate towards certain things for a reason and you put some part of yourself into what you make. It's the closest you can get to someone straight up telling you their life story, fetishes, beliefs, politics etc because they, either consciously or subconsciously, put all of that into their work. A conservative christian will always write a painfully religious view of a relationship, and these tumblr types think sharing your partner with a dozen people is what a "healthy relationship" looks like. They put that into their writefagging and they will never write the opposite.

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>>2513103
I would care less about all this, personally, if people actually tagged that shit appropriately, and didn't cross-tag with every ship in existence. But they do not do that, and in fact to the most "sex-positive" "pro-kink" users, again, you are clearly just a puritain sex-negative loser uber virgin if you want to avoid it and not glaze it as like, sooo much cooler and better than that boring vanilla shit amirite

As for not interacting, they can't help it. They want the fighting lol, so they can pretend they furthered activism by beating up le evil nazi in their fandom

No. 2513132

>>2513053
>Also despite the "cishet booklicker" thing, her and her friends defend lolishit and haremslop the scrotes in the fandom love,
I can't take this "wow I'm a pedophile, but at least I'm not rude" behavior in fandom anymore. The state of fandom is abysmal and she still wants me to believe the straight woman in fandom boogeyman?

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>>2513105
I can't stand both antis and proshippers, but proshippers still make me laugh when they go on and on about how they love pissing off antis just to up and nuke everything one day. So these guys can draw abuse, rape, murder, beastiality, loli and shotashit, but have a mental breakdown when a few random zoomers say they don't like them? This wraps back around to the point I was trying to make here >>2505233
proshippers would be more respectable if they stopped trying to make their weird shit "justified" or more than what it is. To especially stop using their own trauma as a truly embarrassing reason of "I draw this to cope". They need to relearn Life 101, in that not everyone HAS to like them, the art, the fanfics, or the fucked up little headcanons they put out. Bottom line is, I personally think antis and zoomers need to practice not interacting with artists/writers they don't like, but I do think proshippers should get over themselves when people naturally think their gross and questionable art is gross and questionable.

No. 2513153

>>2512913
this picture is fucking foul

No. 2513200

>>2513132
Completely agree with you nona. I would literally respect them more if they weren't such pissbaby hypocrites and owned the fact they make werid fucked-up shit, instead of all the mental gymnastics trying to find some loophole that their fetish art or fic is actually progressive and feminist representation somehow.

No. 2513202

>>2508409
What's the point of shipping if your fanart or fic has zero resemblance to the original canon. This isn't just genderbending/sex swap, these are OOC depictions of poly/queer bullshit. Characters getting trans mutilations in a world where that would never exist is a huge pet peeve. I want to see fanart of the characters and stories I like, not someone's OCs skinwalking them.

No. 2513254

>>2513103
Nta and this reply got long but as someone who was into fandom the "dead dove" fans kept mistagging (or not tagging) their shit and then acting offended when people were disgusted by the unwanted fetish. Cuntboy/dickgirl (aka "trans male character"/"trans female character") are the current main tools of this type of drama. These types of fans love to derail and misinterpret your reaction too just to prolong the argument instead of being mature and taking responsibility for their own actions, they act so smug about it thinking they've epically pwn'd you but instead they're just alienating yet another person in their life and feeding the cycle of their own isolation kek. Like I saw on tumblr once that femslash fans were talking about the amount of futa in the f/f tag and a tranny claimed that "ackchually there are hoards of trans fetishising bi women who write the most futa! I'm innocent and they give me a bad name!!" Like stfu LMAO they never want to take responsibility for their own actions.

Fandom has always been full of some of the most degenerate people who could never make it in the real world so they use the online as a massive crutch, but now it's cool to be the ~best worst degenerate~ and be into pedophilia and rape and defending pedophiles and rapists and "if you don't like my cuntboy/dickgirl rape fetish fic then you're literally a bigot terf bitch who needs to loosen up and stop being so sex negative" and it's just so tiring. Some people's worldviews are so fucked that I wish every fandom had a job interview test to see if someone is a good fit before they're allowed to join the community and contribute art and fic kek. I wish I could host my own forum for these purposes tbh.

Oh also I forgot to mention that talentless retards will bully actual fancreators for not adhering to their delusions. I'm a femslash fan but the twitards are crazy and bullied that one Infinity Nikki fangirl who wrote a hetfic to the point she apologised and abandoned it. I read hetfic too and during Star Wars I liked Rey and Kylo's shared ability and wanted to check out other fan's imaginations but the highest kudos'd fic tagged as ReyLo just said "Rey is a lesbian" or something kek. There's "humour" and then there's "being annoying". Also male characters who wear makeup get transwashed and suddenly every fic about that male character gets comments saying "she's a transwoman!!! Make sure you update her pronouns !!" Even on fics with 500k-1Million words lmao. And these "fans" are relentless. It's tiring. That's what I mean by fandoms should have job interviews. Y'know that meme that's like "let people enjoy things!" Well these people do not deserve to enjoy things. They should be actively prevented from enjoying things. Gatekept from enjoying things. Mostly because they seem miserable even when they claim to enjoy things and want everyone else to be just as miserable as them. Exhausting. If someone uses fandom as a tool to egotrip with rather than a tool to meet people with and have fun then they should get kicked.

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>>2513254
Isn't nikki like barbie? She doesn't have canon sexuality, meaning she can be whoever you want her to be? The moment infinity nikki launched was the day more assholes came in and started to shit up the space. Nikki being gay wasn't a unheard theory but it was confined to it's own space where any interpretation was valid. While now, Troons are having meltdowns over male npcs–especially pretty ones–just existing. Like, how do these people even function? And don't get me started with actual scrotes trying to sexualize nikki or driving away women from a hobby that once belonged to them. It's sad to see given the update drama going on.

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>>2513254
Wasn't it a yaoi mob fic?

No. 2513368

>>2513254
>but now it's cool to be the ~best worst degenerate~ and be into pedophilia and rape and defending pedophiles and rapists
Why is it always about propping up and defending the moidiest shit with them

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>>2512594
Both Japan and Korea are sensitive to anything that could be "imperialist japan", to the point of censorship. For example the "taisho roman" outfit drama in ffxiv saw some koreans demand the outfit get removed from global even though they have their own, completely seperate server. Sebonzakura is removed from non-japanese Asian releases of project diva. I know there's been ship removals in the waifu games and fgo drama too. And the big drama in cn where a va visited a shrine where war criminals were buried (in addition to other non controversial things to be clear) and mentioned it casually, which made her get instantly blacklisted by the entire cn game industry. China also censors the "rising sun" flag and anything that looks like it. I know mili had drama once where she unintentially had something like the flag in the bg of a mv and got a bunch of people flipping out.
For Japan I know they had a bunch of hand wringing about Oppenheimer that delayed the release, but they did let it go through.
If anything westerners are less bad, since it's just people pearl clutching on Twitter not actual censorship.

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>>2513408
Is there anyway they can just ignore this shit? Like holyfuck, dont wear the outfit if it bothers you so much. Imagine being this sensitive.

No. 2513423

>>2513416
I agree but at the same time westerners constantly cry about Hitler and the holocaust and swastikas even though almost everyone involved in WW2 is now dead. Western people want everyone to care about the holocaust and hitler and neo nazis but dont give a shit about any other people's suffering in WW2. And it's also ironic since zionists are some of the most racist and ableist people on the planet while crying about how everyone should care about their plight than happened 80 years ago.

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>>2513408
Ah I can't believe I forgot but for hetalia, there was shitloads of drama around Korea especially to the point where the character was removed from the anime adaptations. I'm pretty sure China had drama too but it's been 300 years.
>>2513416
My understanding there is it's a hot button issue that gets exploited for Korean nationalism, so it becomes a "you are offending my country's honor" not merely "my personal feelings are hurt." I have some sympathy because japan should really take its war crimes more seriously but also holy shit, it's not even your server they literally didn't even need to see it in their game. And the outfit was normal clothing for Japan at the time so the nazi uniform comparisons were way overboard. Stop playing Japanese fantasy games if you can't handle them referencing historical Japanese outfits.
>>2513423
Japan literally denies the comfort women thing to the point where they want a statue in Germany removed, what does most of what you just said have to do with fandom.
As I said in my post, most westerners crying is just that, crying.
Do you want me to defend moid gooners who want nazi sub waifus from being bullied by Twitter or something? Let them fight.

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>>2512827
the fandom would've portrayed him less like that if Sky had been made more of an obvious or confirmed love interest, Jayvik would still be fairly popular but Viktor's masculinity would be erased a little less if he had an on-screen wife. Its him being single and not showing any interest in any woman nearby explicitly that gets him caught by the femme gay twink labels and interpretations. It just destroys his character to see him like that, ruined Jayvik for me so bad.

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>>2512917
I think fujo industry flop because most fujo prefer fanon idealized ships that will never be canon in anime because its from shows made for moids. Trigun Stampede leaned a bit with the yaoi bait, and so did Dr. Stone among others, but these will never go beyond some bait because they are franchises/manga/anime for men and boys. Fujo need to venture into genre meant for them to get fulfillment, but I feel part of the fantasy is knowing it will never be canon? It gives them the drive to make it "canon" themselves through art.

In romance a lot of people prefer the journey, not the destination, this applies to het, yaoi and yuri alike. It doesn't help that writing satisfying romances is not an easy feat for most writers.

No. 2513521

>>2503255
tbf i think Melodi's design can work as either a girl or a boy with a bowl cut. the nonbinary thing is cringe but it doesn't bother me that much from what I've seen of the game's demo.

No. 2513541

>>2513510
this isn’t true at all. fujos still create tons and tons of art and fic of BL series and canon couples. the anime and video game industry is just misogynistic which is why most shoujo/BL gets adapted into live-action.

No. 2513569

>>2513541
Tbf, it's also because penis is a lot harder to get around than barbie doll vagina and bl manga take decades to finish if they ever get around to it.
Danmei has done fairly well in the animation space though, despite being pretty heavily censored.

No. 2513570

>>2513569
penises are very censored in japanese adult media, they have the inconvenient black bars covering up the penis glands and the blurry pixelated censorship methods for animated hentai.

No. 2513573

>>2513570
>they have the inconvenient black bars covering up
What's the point of this censorship if you still can clearly see what's going on?

No. 2513576

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>>2512917
I don't think we're really in disagreement but I really want to complain that a lot of the time it seems like the only option female fans have is Blu-rays, which is ass. I like toys! I like Gundam for example, Bandai has a multiple lines of human kits, but they're literally all waifus or ugly moids like dbz. Char is beloved by men and women but the only model kit he got was some 80s unpainted statue? Really? My only other options are some pricy dolls from 3rd parties that may or may not even be licensed, and an unreleased action figure that was in limbo with 0 news for a decade. What the fuck? Meanwhile I can buy a bunch of cheap, nice kits of random anime and gundam waifus, complete panties and weirdly detailed navels. Waifus get kits before it's even shown if they're popular or not, they just get them preemptively. I'm actively trying to give them money and they're not even doing the bare minimum! And I often see little effort to pander to female fans (in general not gundam specific) with more specific merch like clothing/accessory collabs, cuter dolls, stationary etc. Then female fans are blamed for not being vocal/supportive enough. I hear people say women don't like plamo all the time, where's the quick entry cute boy kits? Oh yeah, they don't exist. Almost no cute male kits exist whatsoever. They fucking hate women.

No. 2513577

>>2513573
I always thought it was pretty dumb, everything else is perfectly visible, at that point why even bother?

No. 2513583

>>2513576
It sucks, especially when the response is "If the male characters were popular, they would have made merch. Get over it!" or "Women simply don't like figures and actually prefer getting cheapo keychains and acrylic stands."

No. 2513598

>>2513573
It's Japan's law, at the very least the head or the dick and the clit must be obscured. Makes sense? No, but that's how their obscenity laws work like.

No. 2513603

>>2513598
>japanese men know where the clit is
>hide it

you can't make this shit up

No. 2513613

>>2513573
>>2513577
>>2513598
Typically what happens is that companies will progressively censor their live action or illustrated porn with smaller and smaller black bars or mosaics, get in legal trouble for not censoring genitals well enough, will overcompensate but hiding almost everything, rince and repeat. I don't remember where I saw that but it was in some documentary. Artists often keep the original uncensored art so foreign publishing companies can publish uncensored hentai, yaoi, etc. I've seen some Japanese fujoshi traveling abroad in Europe and America and buy yaoi manga they already own just because they're uncensored and I wonder if customs can do anything about it.

No. 2513642

>>2513576
I have nothing to contribute besides saying that I feel your sentiments down to my core and its frustrating

No. 2513760

>>2513576
Do men forget a lot of women love dolls? Why aren't more companies investing in bishe dolls and figurines for women? I would love to get one.

No. 2513812

>>2513760
To jp companies, the extent of women’s enjoyment of dolls is solely for nuis

No. 2513965

Is there anyone here who regrets getting into Randoms or the Fandom side of media? For me yes, I should have stuck to only consuming the media and never seeing what is posted about it on the internet. Getting into fandoms can be mentally scarring especially depending on which one you get into and fandoms in general I noticed are primarily filled with unfortunate looking pickmes why hype up every single male character in existence, hate on the female ones and only ship the male characters with little girls or with other men. And don't get me started on the infighting,petty drama and doxxing.

No. 2513973

>>2513152
Both sides of the coin are retarded but i despise how all antis are hypocrites, especially the moids. Its really just an easy way for moids to take the moral high ground without actually making effort to change their pedophilic views that affect IRL women. So many 'anti' moids are right leaning and want their gfs to be fully shaved, skinny, small and submissive. They are really no different from weeb moids that want the same from their 1000 year old loli demon waifus. I wish this retarded discourse focused less on anime slop and more on how society treats real little girls and women. But that would take actual effort from men so it will never happen, sperging about animu while jacking it off to barely legal teens on pornhub with pigtails is easier.

No. 2513975

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>>2513760
There's definitely a market for it. BJD (Ball Jointed Doll) companies make a ton of licensed dolls of male characters, particularly ones from Chinese dramas.

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>>2513760
A massive chunk of BJD hobby is bishies ranging from cute and slim to buff though? There's even more variation with the kinds of boys you can get now. Although things have shifted more towards muscular looking dolls recently.
>>2513576
I 100% agree with you about plamo. I would kill for something like 30 minute sisters but with boys. Not the same thing but in a similar vein, There are a couple of Daibadi Polynian robot boy figures like Alvin, Emil, Shamrock, and Lucio but they seem to be more targeted towards gay moids imo. Especially Shamrock.

No. 2514002

>>2513973
A bit related but does anyone feel in the middle? Not as degen as pros but not as degen as antishippers. Both of them make me feel very out of place no matter what I do, but pros notably feel pushy with their kinks? like am I crazy for meeting guys who insist everyone else shares in their depravity?

No. 2514018

>>2514002
I am proship for anything that involves men and is made for women. Men dont know how to behave and have killed people before thanks to fucking my little pony, they are clearly mentally challenged and perpetually mentally stunted and should not be allowed to watch anything more hardcore than thomas the tank engine.

No. 2514023

>>2514002
I think this is very normal. I enjoy some stuff that would get me called "problematic" but there's tons of stuff I find upsetting as well. I just block accordingly, both antis who I think would jump me, and proshippers who post stuff that grosses me out.
It takes a certain kind of person to get involved in proship/anti wars in the first place imo. To me it's really not a big deal for a woman to think that maybe twincest or an age gap is hot from time to time, as long as she seems sane otherwise, while men should be punished for thinking about sex at all.

No. 2514024

>>2514002
I sort of feel that way too. I like very particular degen things and can't stand others. I don't see the point in moralfagging like antis do but I also won't sit there and defend retards that use pedoshit and rapeshit to ""cope"" with their mental illness.

No. 2514065

>>2514023
There's this overwhelming sense of shame, something heavy on my back, each time I'm surrounded by a bunch antis/proshippers. I can't fathom one side making it their life's mission in badgering grown adults over harmless sex fantasies just as I can't fathom someone else using mental illness as a shield against normal criticism? It's not that one side is better than the other or both sides are somehow wrong, I just feel like playing a game of walking the tightrope where one wrong move results in falling into the pit of doxxing and harassment over meaningless ship wars. And still, the stuff I do like feels vanila compared to the warped shit I see proshippers get up to, moids especially.

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>>2514024
One day, I should ask one of these proshippers the specific breakdown of how rape and abuse fantasies are their cope. Like, what is the psychological mechanic of projecting onto characters and writing/drawing them beating or raping each other in order to "cope" with sexual or other physical trauma?

No. 2514074

>>2514068
They say it's there way of fighting back? Like some shitty form of exposure therapy. A bit obtuse imo but that's the best I can gather besides whatever overdone buzzwords proshippers like to use. The ones who get off to women being raped by old ugly men, too, so you know you're in for a eye-rolling debate session.

No. 2514093

>>2514068
Retard Psychoanalysis is already way too rampant, honestly wish everyone who thinks they're the next Freud would shut up and go back to doing that shit to reality TV shows tbh.

No. 2514156

>>2514068
it’s not at all uncommon for victims to cope like this. the actual question should be on whether it’s a “good cope” (it’s not). just because something’s a cope doesn’t make it healthy. stuff like this is just self harm

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That's literally a harem retard. Jesus christ these tumblr people trying to white-wash haremtrash scenarios with "polyamorryyy" is obnoxious. They act like putting a progressive label on it magically makes it not misogynistic slop

No. 2514199

>>2514188
Link would never be a fuckboy he's a one woman kind of guy.

No. 2514207

>>2514068
they don't, it's their fetish. if anything, the experience makes you asexual, a raging retard or an hypersexual drug addict.

No. 2514228

>>2514199
But if you say that anywhere else nona they'll call you a conservative nun who has never had sex and hates gay people kek

I'm not going to ship Zelda with that twink at all at this point if everyone wants her to be a completely cucked housewife to deadbeat scrote Link so bad. I'm gonna start shipping her with the off-screen scribe girl in the past who has a crush on her.

No. 2514240

>>2514068
Not sure if you're actually asking, or if this is a rhetorical meant to get like-minded replies, but it's a control thing. Drawing or writing it can feel like a retaking of control, where abuse and SA can often entirely derail a victims life and it's difficult to get people to actually take your symptoms as the serious signs of trauma they are, especially as more and more time passes since the event. People think you should just "be over it" already, but you're not, and you still have to function in your day to day, so what's just drawing a bit of abuse on paper? It can be a cathartic release for a lot of people, a reminder that it's over and they're in control now. It can also work as a processing of the event, drawing and writing about it can help one understand what happened and realize it wasn't their fault, as a lot of victims have self blame and are forced to keep it all inside for various reasons, such as fear of ridicule, victim blaming, or even feeling that they need to protect their abuser. The fictional content can have a sort of "this isn't me, this is someone else" sort of effect, and help someone who is still reeling and struggling to deal with these emotions and events to process them in a way that feels safer. People have different reasonings and can't really just be all lumped together in the same category. I despise the "proship" and "antiship" argument for that reason, human psychology cannot be so easily explained by these black and white political fandom camps, it's not really anyone else's business but the victim if a certain coping mechanism is working for them. It's not always self harm, but repression certainly is.

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>>2514002
>does anyone feel in the middle?
Yes, that used to be the average fan's mindset around a decade ago. Maybe still is and is just drowned out by the loud obnoxious minority

No. 2514375

>>2514024
>>2514068
The 'muh cooopeeeeee' WAS a way to fight back against the purity brigade who only wanted to see degenerate porn of their own ships and doxed anyone who produced degenerate porn of other ships that they didn't like. NOW it's what all the 35 year old scrotes say when they're asked why they're DMing porn to 13 year olds. The whole pro/anti thing was pure bullshit from the start and it's managed to become even stupider, now it's a horseshoe of lolicons screeching rape threats at anyone who calls them pedos and tweens screeching death threats at anyone who reblogs a Hazbin character they don't like. They both claim trauma and cope to justify their retardation. They're all speds and I really don't know why anyone takes anything they say at face value.

No. 2514413

>>2514242
>Maybe still is and is just drowned out by the loud obnoxious minority
It seems like it. Most normie fans I've talk to either just liked the series or didn't make a huge deal over minor "problematic" things. Only pro and antis, with their chronically online brains, seem to make wars out of minor age gaps or whatever or not this creator is evil for a lukewarm take.

No. 2514485

>>2514002
I like some weird shit like omegaverse but I think proshippers are annoying.
Can’t deny though that I think they can write some pretty sexy fics which is way more than you can say for the “anti” crowd since they just sperg about hating AO3 all day.

No. 2514597

>>2514002
i’m proship but only for women, men shouldn’t even be in fandom in the first place. the only point i feel torn on other than that is surprise tranny content. i strongly disagree about fanfiction needing to be tagged with warnings if the author doesn’t want to since it harms storytelling and leads to retarded demands and shit like people now doing trigger warnings in irl books. however, nothing gets me more tilted than reading an m/m fic and getting jumpscared by one of the characters being a TIF. on a deeper level i know i can just walk away from the screen but it still annoys me.

No. 2515165

>>2514597
>i’m proship but only for women
This honestly, I don't get how people see women writing about physically, emotionally and sexually abusive men and think that in any way they support that shit in real life, but testosterone naturally makes men volatile and prone to violent outbursts so if you see a man drawing that shit then you KNOW what types of fantasies he's having. Meanwhile for women it's always some type of "I wish cruel men would just be nice to me sometimes in between the beatings and coerced sex".

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ywnbdd (you will never be daniil dankovsky)

No. 2515362

>>2514068
people are literally replying to you >>2514074 . >>2514240 with the nonsensical replies they use and it's like yeah. that is what they're claiming is happening. but it doesn't make sense KEK this drives me crazy. it's like when people say "you're wrong you stupid retarded faggot (I'm mentally disabled and gay so I can reclaim these terms)." what they want to say is "it's not cultural appropriation because using faggot as an insult [in the case of "reclaiming"] or being raped [in the case of "coping"] is my culture. I have permission to do this thing that you don't"

No. 2515462

>>2515362
I don't think it's that it's nonsensical, I think it's just that you're not very bright. It's not a difficult concept to grasp, but I'll use a comparison. You know how people often use humor to cope with stressful situations? Make a joke out of something seriously plaguing them so it feels easier to handle? It's similar to that. It's much easier to process something if you warp it into something more palatable and pleasing to your brain. It's why a lot of people develop strange fetishes after trauma, the human brain is conditioned to avoid pain wherever possible. You don't have to engage with it, you don't have to understand it, you don't even have to feel comfortable, utilize that block button. However, people have the right to deal with shit however they please, regardless of your severe case of "anything I personally don't understand or experience must clearly be fake" syndrome.

No. 2515616

Are there any extremely popular series that have a relatively chill fandom with little toxicity or drama?

No. 2515696

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do you agree?

No. 2515748

>>2515696
>i stand with christ alone
kek she's the same shit she's complaining about, christians just want things to pander to their agenda.

No. 2515755

>>2515696
I cant read it the text is too small. Can you post your ipaddress so I can see it better?(bait)

No. 2515823

>>2515696
Not all coomers are gamers, but all gamers are coomers.

No. 2515838

>>2515696
>jesus
Retard on retard on retard violence.

No. 2515845

>>2515696
I mean, the crux of her argument is fine, but it would have been stronger if she didn't throw in the jesus stuff at the end there kek

No. 2515868

>>2515696
>alphabet people
Stopped reading there, shows she has zero respect for those she's decided are beneath her, so she can't be trusted to form any reasonable opinions despite tricking herself into thinking her extreme egotism is logic.

No. 2515984

>>2514597
you say tag warnings are bad and then give an example of exactly why they are necessary kek. Different people are going to have different things that illict that same response in them that you have from TIF jumpscare

No. 2516022

>>2515696
I would agree with her overall point, if she wasn't a hypocritical jesus retard.

Loud, whiny Americans just want everything to always only pander to their specific personal agendas all the time. Be that their severe porn addictions, conservative Christianity or tumblrfag lgbt polyam aroace hypersexual down-with-cis furry "communist" agendas. Usually some crossover of two of these things because the "christian" men are usually still pedophile porn addicts in fandom, just homophobic. Then the gendies throw a hissy fit about a straight couple being canon or the mere concept of monogamy because it's not the gay threesome they want.

Zelda is a perfect example due to how more-or-less neutral it is, being a game also deliberately aimed and targeted at young children (and therefore can't go too far in some aspects). Somebody's view of the series is practically a political compass as it is always sheer projection. Neither the conservative christian gamers nor gendies ever sound like they actually played the game for more than five minutes when they are weaponizing it for online political wars. The gendies are seemingly completely unable to understand (or accept) that the crossdressing scene was a simple joke the same as with Cloud in FF7, or the nuance in the interview they love quoting so much (where "Link is definitely male" was also said, but they tend to cut that part off kek). The christians always bring up a single ancient piece of concept art with a crucifix, but also always conveniently forget the shinto-buddism inspirations, the islamic chant in oot, or that in the actual story of the games, there is a pantheon of female goddesses worshipped, not the christian god or jesus.

Tldr: ALL of these people only see games as A) porn and B) political propaganda, or a tool for it. They are completely unable to consume them as anything else. Every game must soapbox THEIR beliefs, cater to THEIR fetish. And any conflicting information that gets in the way of such projection is conveniently ignored.

And yet, when a game like Stellar Blade or Veilguard comes out, fully catering to their side, that still isn't good enough. I suspect because they only want the most popular, most well-known games to fully cater to them.

No. 2516028

>>2516022
>And yet, when a game like Stellar Blade or Veilguard comes out, fully catering to their side, that still isn't good enough.
kek this is so true. They have literally thousands of coomer slop games to pick from, but their problem isnt the lack of coomshit, but rather the fact that for once in their lifes they arent the center of the world. Men are perpetual children, they literally never mentally evolve past toddler age and so live their lives throwing tantrums and excercising violence if they dont get their way. They are so fucking childish.

No. 2516031

>>2516028
Nta but
>or Veilguard
Men are bad, yeah, but this definitely isn't just a male only issue, hell you can see it in this thread lol.

No. 2516037

>>2516031
How is it even comparable? the only coomer games are like nucani and wthib and they are both very recent gachaslop. Men have had coomshit in their vidya since the invetion of the medium, hell, there are fucking atari porn games.

No. 2516039

>>2516037
The discussion isn't about coomslop it's about
>Loud, whiny Americans just want everything to always only pander to their specific personal agendas all the time

No. 2516044

>>2516039
''whiny agenda'' being women not being depicted as coomslop, yes indeed women are as bad as men who complain about women in videogames and movies not looking like 14yos

No. 2516048

>>2516044
Doubling down kinda just proves the point further tbh.
…Did you actually like Veilguard? Yeah sure, women weren't depicted as coomslop ig but one was a tranny, please get better taste.

No. 2516054

>>2516048
I dont like vileguard and i never said i did. I am not the other anon. You cant pay me to watch modern AAA western slop.

No. 2516131

>>2515696
Games should target whatever people want to spend their money on the most. Whether it's sex, gendie, or jesus.

No. 2516145

>>2516131
Agreed but my agenda is I wish more could target none of these things primarily and just focus on an actual good story and fun gameplay

No. 2516153

>>2516145
There are already a shit load of games like that, play any strategy game.

No. 2516180

>>2516153
I do play games like Age of Empires nona, but history strategy games shouldn't be the only option outside of gooner or gendie shit. So many creative minds but they can't think of something outside those two boxes?

No. 2516198

>>2516153
>you can't complain about all the shit that's coming out because there's prexisting nonshit!
That's not how it works, retard

No. 2516200

>>2516153
Plus strategy games are one very specific style of gameplay. I like them too but there’s all the twitch reflexes, verticality, environmental storytelling, kinematics, gunplay you’re missing out on just to name a few. Though I agree, games should be about GAMEPLAY first and foremost.

No. 2516207

>>2516180
>>2516200
Then make your own games. Nintendo literally exists and is one of the biggest videogame companies so its not like coom free games are a niche. What a non issue.

No. 2516211

>>2516207
>em just make your own games
Ohhhh my god fuck off back to /v/ with this. There’s an entire list of games I’ve not played because the characters are too repulsive for me despite having interesting gameplay. Also we deserve games that aren’t just children’s games.

No. 2516238

Consumers are lazy. Ideally people would put more effort into seeking and supporting projects that align with their interests, but that doesn't happen.

No. 2516306

>>2515696
She is right even if she is a christian homophobe. You especially see this when coomers go out of their way to buy and support games that purposefully pander to their ideology like Stellar Blade or games that they championed as part of their ideology like NieR Automata. They are an extremely political and annoying as fuck.

No. 2516857

>>2515462
I can't tell if your problem is that you're stupid and projecting that on people who are too smart to fall for the excuse you've fallen for, or if you're simply the most gullible person alive kek. If someone with a fetish for rape and abuse is constantly masturbating to rape and abuse fanfic and fanart, they aren't "drawing or writing it to feel like a retaking of control" as a "cathartic release," it's just that they know that saying "oh I masturbate to this… to cope" is more socially acceptable than "I have a rape fetish" and it's really funny that you buy that for some reason.

No. 2517490

>>2516857
nta but unclench. it’s true that some people do lie about their reasons as an excuse but it’s also true that actual victims do develop unhealthy coping mechanisms like this.

No. 2517616

>>2516857
Fun fact, the mark of an intelligent person is the willingness to listen to and attempt to understand viewpoints that exist beyond one's own personal range. Trauma changes your brain, it's why we have things like PTSD, attachment styles and personality disorders. How do you think masochism comes about? You don't think people are just born fucked do you? There is actual, legitimate, academic psychological research on this. There IS a link. Women with low self esteem are more likely to be abused and end up in dysfunctional relationships they trick themselves into thinking is okay, and a part of that is the brain rewiring itself into getting a sort of pleasure high from the emotional highs and lows. It's literally brain science.

No. 2517668

>>2517616
I'm really tired of all these justifications for what is basically women drawing or writing fucked up shit that will likely cause more damage to other women down the line as a way for them to "heal" or "gain control".

No. 2517678

>>2517668
Just use the block button. Like I said in my previous post, you don't need to be comfortable, but you shouldn't try to dictate what these women do. It's not a "justification", it's just a fact. When you've been through abuse, it fucks up your brain for a while and when you've been exposed to abusive scenarios far more than a reasonable person would deal with without walking away, you become addicted to it. In fact, non-abusive scenarios can feel scarier than abusive scenarios because your brain is anticipating the other shoe to drop. It's literally psychology. I'd far prefer these women write and illustrate these desires as opposed to returning to a real life abuser, wouldn't you? Trying to say that they're damaging other people just feels like a deflection to make it difficult for people who already have a history of difficulties standing up for themselves to argue. If something upsets you, instead of mentally self harming and exposing yourself more to prove to others how bad it is, just protect your peace and block it.

No. 2517699

>>2514068
They are all bullshitting. They draw/write rape and abuse because they get off of it, not because of some deep trauma.

No. 2517703

>>2517678
NTA but while I agree with you, I also think people who writte these kind of things should keep them private or within a small circle of friends to a certain extent. While they and other people use them to cope, there are many others (read:men) that don't, I don't think it's wise to feed rape apes and such. Honestly, it's kind of the same principle of why you shouldn't post stuff like very personal/detailed vents in big online public spaces.
Some time ago an author I trust published a fic where the MC gets raped (the author being a victim of that herself), I decided to read it despite that being something I find very hard to stomach and it ended up being cathartic in a way (in a "glad I'm not alone" way, except in this case if someone told me she was raped I would feel terrible for her rather than relieved, but since in this case it's a fictional character, it's not as bad). But still, not everybody has to be said out loud.

No. 2517774

>>2517703
you're completely delusional if you think men read fanfiction at all

No. 2517799

>>2517678
Nta but with algorithms that's difficult. It's easier if people just kept their self harm private between friends and worked on themselves. It also protects them from being targeted again because abusers pick up on a vulnerable girl/woman self harming and think "nice. I can manipulate that." It's not the empowering thing you think it is. Plus seeing someone abuse themselves publicly is difficult to watch, especially when you suffer with the same obsessive-compulsive shit, because you get triggered too. You don't put two anorexics in the same room, do you? They just both self harm together.

Plus I've never seen anyone actually improve after masturbating to rape fic. They stay stuck in the same place for years, like they're in limbo. Constantly reinforcing the past. They'll say "oh yeah it's healed me" and then in the next sentence they'll say something really unhinged which contradicts their entire claim. It makes me want to scream that what they're doing is clearly not helping in the long run and is just short-term acting out which soothes them temporarily but always comes back because the main cause is not being dealt with.

>>2517774
90% of yuri fanfic is futashit by trannies so that's blatantly not true. Also several kids at the youth club I volunteered at were being targeted by pedophiles because they were publishing their "cathartic" fic online and these girls thought they were being helped by these nice older men, we had to get the police involved. These men were writing their own pedofic and grooming these girls calling it "catharsis" and these girls believed it. Believe it or not publicly posting your trauma attracts the wrong crowd. There's no guidelines for what a victim should do so it's easy to just fall into self harm patterns, but a good start is not publicly posting your trauma online for the world to see.

No. 2517812

>>2517774
They do, haven't you seen the hundreds of [Female character] X Male self-insert fics? Or those autistic crossover ones? Or porn ones that get male author clocked 5 lines in because of how horribly they describe women's anatomy? I wish men didn't write or read fanfiction, most slop would go away.
I don't think you go around fandom a lot (please keep it that way, it must be so peaceful kek).

No. 2517823

>>2517799
>several kids at the youth club I volunteered at were being targeted by pedophiles because they were publishing their "cathartic" fic online and these girls thought they were being helped by these nice older men, we had to get the police involved. These men were writing their own pedofic and grooming these girls calling it "catharsis" and these girls believed it
i'm sorry but this sounds incredibly fake. maybe it's a me problem and i'm too naive.
>>2517812
i've been reading fanfic for 15 years and i've never come across this. while i don't doubt there are some exceptions, fanfiction is undisputedly dominated by women. it kind of sounds like you're scrotefoiling a little honestly, i've seen a lot of both crossovers and bad understanding of female anatomy and sexual functions in fics that have still clearly been written by girls (most likely underage virgins but girls nonetheless).

No. 2517826

>>2517774
>you're completely delusional if you think men read fanfiction at all
You must really not know men? Several guys I knew read and wrote fanfic, albeit the kind you expect men to like such as gen fic, canon ship fics, and of course porn. Not erotica, straight up written porn down to fetishes and kinks used. Ao3 is less obviously with this but sites like spacebattles or the fimfiction forums are filled from front to back with what could best be described as male autism made manifest.

No. 2517841

>>2517823
>i'm sorry but this sounds incredibly fake. maybe it's a me problem and i'm too naive.
Ayrt, that makes me angry kek but I can't make you believe something you've never experienced. If context helps it was on wattpad where commenting and DMing was allowed. However I've seen this kind of thing happen on tumblr when I was a kid myself before the porn ban. The moids there mostly targeted underage ftms.

Just to clarify, there were only two girls at the youth club that I knew about who were involved with older men so it's not like it was happening in abundance right before my eyes.

The one thing I remember most about the "cathartic fic" issue though, was when one girl, about 14, described the man she was speaking to as "He writes fiction around lgbt themes" or some shit. So I was like "is he gay?? Do I have nothing to worry about…?" So I went to his page and it was just "lesbian-to-straight" conversion fics about underage girls. The thought of a child reading that and calling it lgbt made me want to throw up at the time, no wonder there are kids nowadays who say shit like "lesbians can have sex with men" despite "lgbtq" being more prevalent than ever.

Also I wanted to add, I've been involved with online RP communities where there are lots of men who write fic. There are more out there than you think. Plenty are normal about it, but unfortunately there are predatory moids who do target young girls. Luckily the youth club were able to report the wattpad guy to the police because he'd been sending the kid money so there was a trail back to him. A more experienced volunteer (who had also experienced grooming unfortunately) was able to clock that the kid was buying lots of stuff on amazon (using the youth club computers) and questioned where she was getting the money from, since the volunteer knew the kid's mum was broke and, frankly, neglectful.

No. 2517865

>>2517823
Just because you haven't seen it personaly doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It depends on what kind of media you're into though, if it's books or shows you probably get 5 men max, but for example I'm into videogames and while most fic writters are women, there are lots of men as well (I'd say 65/35 f/m split).
You seem like you only believe your own experiences though, so I will stop replying there as I don't think anything will come out from this convo.

No. 2517866

>>2517823
>I've been reading fanfic for 15 years and i've never come across this
She doesn't know about the Loud House fanfic

No. 2517998

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>4.7K likes
Is fandom slowly but surely beginning the long process of healing?

No. 2518024

>>2511594
this image never fails to make me wish i didn't have eyes

No. 2518179

>>2517774
My husband wrote a huge homestuck fanfic when he was 13.
>>2517703
>>2517799
I do agree that the algorithm makes it extremely difficult to completely avoid shit you don't want to see, though at the same time, I feel as if telling victims that they can't share their feelings to protect other people is harmful as well. Like it's telling them that they're damaged and they need to be quarantined for something that isn't their fault. It's because the internet is so horribly centralized right now, everything is on like, 4 websites, where minors coexist with adult content, and it's terrible. I think we should return to anthology websites and websites specialized to certain things where certain types of content are banned to protect the users so everyone actually knows what they're getting into. Maybe if there's enough push for this in fandom it can happen, like with how everyone and their grandmother is making neocities pages right now.

No. 2518259

>>2517998
Fucking finally. We need more out and proud oldschool fangirls I feel like an ancient creature calling my kin "oldschool" but it's what we are now I guess

No. 2518269

>>2517616
Fun fact, the mark of an intelligent person is not believing stupid bullshit.
The only thing worse than people with rape kinks is people with rape kinks who insist their rape kink isn't a rape kink

No. 2518294

>>2518269
I'm saying there's psychology behind that shit, and the reason you look like a retard to everyone in this thread, even those who hate rapefic, is because you refuse to acknowledge that and want to die on the hill that people are only ever into rape for the fuck of it. Something can turn you on as well as be a complete and total emotional trip of both highs and lows. It's often a point of shame for rape victims, and yes, writing and drawing rapeshit can help relieve the shame victims feel too.

I've attached a video of Agnes Sculptham from Moral Orel, someone who was raped and has extreme anxiety from the event yet climaxed during her assault and masturbates to the trauma she endured. Despite how it sounds, it's actually extremely respectful, not meant to be viewed with sexual eyes, and realistic to the nuanced experiences victims go through, and I recommend giving it a watch if you ever want to be a little more open minded and drop the idea victims need to be perfect to still be victims.

No. 2518295

>>2517998
I hope this heralds a retvrn to the good times.

No. 2518380

>>2513152
The fuck is even supposed to be going on in that reaction image? I can't even tell what emotion you're trying to express with that

No. 2518443

>>2518380
It's just another retarded newfag personality-fagging, so many of them lately, just report.

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>>2518443
>another retarded newfag personality fagging!
>total drama island picture
Holy shit, take some antidepressants or something. Maybe get a job too, maybe that will help you feel like you have some importance to this world.(infight bait)

No. 2519146

>>2518259
Right? The thing is giving wide benefit of the doubt that everyone who claims to write rapefic to cope with abuse isn't just bullshitting. Sure, those people exist, but more people exist who use it as a shield because it's socially unacceptable to doubt someone who claims victimhood, and those people need to be called out. Better coping mechanisms should be encouraged, or at least, it should be discouraged to do in the public eye because of how it draws in creeps who would exploit actual victims. The creeps using fabricated victimhood as a shield ruin it for everybody and do not deserve carte blanche permission to be openly degenerate because it causes harm in its own way, both to actual victims and to people who get hooked on violent and unhealthy fantasies that lead them to toxic relationships because they seek to recreate that extreme that they grew up exposed to. It's not going to stifle or hurt victims to practice some discreetness or OPSEC, or to make a dedicated space for that stuff.

No. 2519416

>>2519146
>or to make a dedicated space for that stuff.
I'm honestly someone who copes through this media and I would like this so that everyone could be happier. I don't think it's any coincidence this shit got so much worse with the extreme centralization of the web, and twitter just made it SUCH a clusterfuck. Tumblr had an extremely comprehensible tagging system, twitter has muted words but even then, it's nigh possible to completely filter it. We can only return to the old days if someone takes one for the team and accepts eating bandwidth costs so we can keep our degeneracy separate again.
>inb4 no the fuck you do NOT cope through abusive media
I really do. I'm in a safe situation for the first time in my life and I find myself getting legitimately anxious if I don't have anyone berating me or criticizing me or telling me ways I should change myself. Whenever I'm made to feel miserable, it feels like a legitimate drug hit. That's something I need to work out through therapy, but for right now, I'd rather make up stories than ruin the best thing that's ever happened to me because I can't contain my need to be abused. I get a rush of adrenaline whenever I hear people screaming on screen. On the bright side though, I can absolutely fucking tell when someone making this shit is drawing from their experiences or not. There's just a certain victim-blamey responsibility-absolving way abusers talk that can't be fabricated.

No. 2519457

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>goes on ao3
>walled scrotes have more fanfics than the actually attractive characters
I fucking hate pickmes so much it's unreal.

No. 2519462

>>2519457
tbh most of the relevant characters in mgs are "walled scrotes" so idk what you expected

No. 2519464

>>2519462
Raiden (well for one game), otacon and liquid snake are right there and pickme rape victims with absent father figures choose the walled hags with no sex appeal.

No. 2519473

>>2519457
>>2519457
If you're complaining about walled scrotes in the old man yaoi franchise then you might be lost tourist-chama.

No. 2519479

>>2519473
I don't even engage with this franchise and I was thinking the same thing. Some people are actually into old man yaoi and I don't think it's fair to call them pickmes when you're the tourist complaining about it on a website where it's easy to garner controversial replies kek

No. 2519484

>>2519473
>>2519479
>old man yaoi
So much for being a tourist, that’s all you. Just because you’re a rape victim who is attracted to men who can’t get it up doesn’t mean all women are. Only fags are genuinely into “old man yaoi”. If you are a woman attracted to old scrotes, you’re using it as a substitute for a father figure and confusing that with attraction. Hope you heal from your trauma soon(bait)

No. 2519490

>>2519479
As someone who has, old man yaoi is all you're gonna get when the franchise you like is lacking in the young man department. Hideo literally made raiden to pander to women because old men weren't they're thing. Then metal gear rising happened.

No. 2519491

>>2519484
using "rape victim" as an insult is very interesting…

No. 2519494

>>2519490
He should’ve kept raiden sexy, all the fans of him I’ve met are women.
>>2519491
Who said it was an insult? It’s the truth

No. 2519496

>>2519457
If you are so upset by that maybe get up and write some more?

No. 2519499

Stop replying to bait

No. 2519500

>>2519490
i dont know why shes screeching so much. genuinely what did she expect getting into mgs kek, most of the characters are dusty old scrotes. she should go play games with characters shes actually into

No. 2519504

>>2519500
I named 3 characters right above I found attractive from the franchise. Maybe the series should stop featuring walled men for days while the women are all conventionally attractive nlog chan?

No. 2519513

>>2519484
This is some bait bait.
Not everyone self inserts like you. People need to remember that the characters have personality and dynamics, theres such a thing as a story in a game. It's called fanfiction for a reason.

No. 2519519

>>2519513
Who said anything about self insertation? I just like attractive males

No. 2519520

>>2519504
i dont know what you want me to say. just get into a different franchise??? also inb4 you call me an nlog pickme rape victim: im not into old bearded scrotes either. do you want to know what i do about this? i seek out media with male characters i actually find attractive. it is very easy. you are just torturing yourself for no reason.

No. 2519523

>>2519520
I just said I found some of the characters to my taste and was wondering why women thrist over the walled men instead of the actually hot ones

No. 2519527

>>2519523
Because dynamics are a thing. Did you join fandom yesterday?

No. 2519531

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>>2519520
>>2519523
I love that this thread never changes at all but I hate the new thread pic sfm. This one represented you all best, imo

No. 2519532

>>2519531
I always try my best not to use twitter caps when i make the thread.

No. 2519535

>>2519527
You could have the best dynamics ever but if both parties are hot, why bother?

No. 2519537

>>2519535
Please develop theory of mind soon, nonna.

No. 2519540

>>2519537
Nta but I understand full well you’re a psyoped woman who’s taught to value Muh personalitee over anything else. Sad

No. 2519554

>>2519519
You're saying people that write fanfiction between older male characters are rape victims with daddy complexes, what do you think that means?

No. 2519555

>>2519554
Nothing I said there was wrong though. Every single woman I’ve met who likes old men is a rape victim or had an absent father figure. You know I’m right, maybe that’s why you’re so mad

No. 2519557

>>2519535
You can look up fanfiction for a game that you actually like, that's another option. Why bother looking up fanfic for a series where you don't care about the most of the characters including the mc and can't think past "ugly scrote"?

No. 2519566

>>2519557
I like the MC, I’m just not sexually attracted to him and don’t see why anyone who isn’t a fag or traumatized would actually find him hot. I was looking for raiden fics and I was caught off guard by how little there was comparatively when he was designed with women in mind and is hot as fuck.

No. 2519571

>>2519555
Mad? It just annoying that fakers like you who are just into aesthetics and porn admonish others for actually being interested in the main cast.
Calling nerds "degenerates" and "totally raped by their dad" has sadly always been a thing, but nerd shit going mainstream has made it so fakers that never gave a shit like you stoml around and ask to be pandered to. It's very sad.

No. 2519583

>>2519571
I am a diagnosed autistic who’s been into weebshit since I was 9. Why are you so butthurt that I said your husbando is walled? You are such a suck up, keep shaming women for dare wanting attractive characters in their vidya though. I will continue to ask to be pandered to when there is very few media in the world that actually features attractive males. Liking old men has and always will be degenerate, dadfucker.

No. 2519584

>shes missing out on the /m/ gcest party because she’s not capable of just imagining them hotter
ngmi

No. 2519588

>>2519583
>keep shaming women
You must be severely autistic if you're calling women dadfuckers and rape victims because they have different taste men and think you can still have a point about shame.

No. 2519593

>>2519583
>I am a diagnosed autistic
that explains everything

No. 2519595

>>2519588
You know I’m right, you know that being attracted to old men is indicative of daddy issues and/or sexual trauma. I will continue to call them that because it’s the truth, if you truly don’t have any trauma and you’ve fallen to the psyop so easily I feel bad.
>>2519593
Yes, most women who even know what an ao3 is are autistic as are most of the women in this thread.

No. 2519602

>>2519583
>>2519595
>I am a diagnosed autistic
>Yes, most women who even know what an ao3 is are autistic as are most of the women in this thread.
Stop projecting your mental illness on normal people who just like video game characters please thank you.

No. 2519608

>I'm autistic that means I'm a super nerd
God, I hate this tiktok shit.

No. 2519610

>>2519608
i think we need to start making stronger distinctions between actual autism and nerdtism because they aren’t the same thing.

No. 2519611

>>2519583
>I am a diagnosed autistic
Aha! So it's a lack of theory of mind huh? Why are you even going on AO3 and having high expectations in the first place? And why do you think women who are into a walled man franchise that's 35 years old atp is going to stop attractive men from put in games now despite the fact that game companies would rather pander to faggots even if every woman on earth was attracted to and writing about the characters you personally deem appropriate?

No. 2519613

>>2519602
If you are on this thread you are not normal kek, are you telling me you’re some stacy normie? Are you an asexual who can’t comprehend the concept of sexual attraction so you get baffled by the thought of someone dare wanting to read smut about hot guys?(baiting)

No. 2519615

>>2519608
I hate when people on here say stupid shit and add "im an autist" too like we already have a horrible reputation can you stop making more people hate us holy fuck

No. 2519616

>>2519613
the pen. pick it up.

No. 2519621

>>2519613
We get it, you're autistic and can't understand humans past labeling them on internet archetypes, you don't have to double down on that.

No. 2519627

>>2519608
>>2519610
I have both. I have been into nerd shit since I was 9 as I said, but somehow that invalidates it because I like as if my experiences haven’t been shaped by misogyny I’ve witnessed in those spaces and how so much anime and video games are blatantly sexist?
>>2519611
So you admit your tastes are abnormal? Good to know!
>>2519615
>MUH REPUTATION
You will never escape your shackles if you keep shitting and pissing over what neurotypicals think about you.

No. 2519628

>>2519613
I'm not a giga stacy but I'm also not mentally ill. I'm a normal woman who loves some video games and books so I'm here. I'm far from the only anon who's mentally well adjusted or at the very least whose issues are caused by external circumstances and not literally by their own brain. You're still projecting.

No. 2519630

>only rape victims like old man yaoi
Wasn't it proven by statistics that unlike scrotes, women's tastes scale with age as they get older themselves?

No. 2519631

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>>2519627
stop crashing tf out please

No. 2519632

>>2519627
>So you admit your tastes are abnormal? Good to know!
I don't like MGS kek. Answer the questions.

No. 2519637

>>2519627
If you’ve been into nerdshit since you were nine and still don’t know how dynamics shipping works i fear you have even more problems besides the crippling autism.

No. 2519638

>>2519630
Women come in 4 types
>Raped
>Autistic
>Stacy
>Asexual

No. 2519640

this is why we need to find the cure for autism

No. 2519642

>>2519627
**Because I like hot guys
>>2519628
>caused by external circumstances
Ohhh, you’re traumatized. Explains it all.
>>2519632
With the nlog woman demand for walled scrotes, those needs are met first because it threatens men less.
>>2519630
Has it ever occurred to you that’s because women are pressured into always dating older or their own age and are shunned for liking younger and hotter guys?
>>2519637
Oh I do know, I just have never cared about ship dynamics that feature ugly characters because unlike you I refuse to settle for less. I’m aware why people ship them, but it’s a pathetic display of having to settle and because of pickme tastes

No. 2519653

>>2519642
So your real problem is indeed other women not having the same brain problems you have and being unable to comprehend it?

No. 2519654

>>2519638
Is this sarcasm?

No. 2519657

>caused by external circumstances
>Ohhh, you’re traumatized.
This is straight out of Tumblr. No, a vague term like "external circumstances" does not mean "sexual trauma" are you in middle school?

No. 2519662

>>2519653
Not even sure what you’re talking about. Yes I’m autistic but I’m not traumatized and don’t have cripplingly low self esteem, therefore I’m not attracted to walled men. Being attracted to walled men as a woman IS the issue here, keep trying to gaslighting me into thinking something is wrong with me because I have a normal sexuality though.

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No. 2519666

>>2519662
The thing thats wrong with you is your lack of empathy no1curr about your taste in men.

No. 2519668

>>2519657
External circumstances, like having an absent father figure, being in an abusive relationship and/or dealing with sexual trauma. These are commonly found with people who fall for the psyop.

No. 2519670

>>2519642
>Ohhh, you’re traumatized
I was talking about other anons in general because they often talking about whatever is going on in their lives in other threads. Is it your crippling autism making you unable to understand a simple sentence like that too or is it something else?

No. 2519671

>>2519654
The scrotefoiling rule is the worst thing to ever happen to this site.

No. 2519674

>>2519666
I have no reason to be empathetic to people who actively taint video games because of their abnormal taste and let women who are into hot men as they should be to rot. Raiden was turned into an ugly scrote because of women like you who demand walled barapigs when a moid for once in their life actually pandered to you. Stockholm syndrome at its finest

No. 2519677

>>2519671
It's pointing out how her mind works
>>2519613
>>2519662

No. 2519678

>>2519674
I'm not getting involved in this shit but I just wanna say, if your empathy is conditional, you're just not an empathetic person period, you're a manipulative one who plays the part of having empathy for your own gain.

No. 2519681

>>2519657
I wonder if anon has ever gone outside and interacted with human beings that have anything going on in their life whatsoever.
>>2519662
Anon, the issue is that you're sperging out and calling women sexually abused for not writing about what you want. True mindfulness is ignoring that kind of thing. Did you not have Special Ed where they'd teach this sort of thing growing up? Poor nona.

No. 2519682

>>2519674
Retard, Raiden was turned into an ugly stupid cyborg in MGS4 because male fans complained in the 2000s that he was too pretty and gay for them to be a game protagonist. At least complain about the right problem. If it's that traumatizing to you you can also complain about Kojima pandering to them in MGS3 by making the main character Naked Snake in a prequel instead.

No. 2519683

But what's stopping her from writing her own fanfic? I don't get this spergout

No. 2519685

>>2519671
i completely believe that autist-chan is a woman, she is just an actual autist and that is how they genuinely act - tbf lolcow didn’t use to have as many autist anons as we have now

No. 2519686

>>2519683
Judging by her posts i think lack of intelligence is the main barrier.

No. 2519693

>>2519685
At least we're only dealing with her online. Interacting with diagnosed autistic fangirls irl is something I would only wish on my worst enemies. Shout out to anyone dealing with them and with male autists during anime and comic cons because they have a profressionnal or an AA booth, you're all stronger than I could ever be.

No. 2519697

>>2519692
Make the doujinshi of your dreams so you can laugh at everyone else writing on AO3. Use your autism for good, not evil.

No. 2519698

>>2519683
because autists can’t write good fanfic, anon!
they don’t have the creative thinking or the empathy to write compelling narratives around relationships! the black and white thinking leads to overall blandness in a writing!

No. 2519699

>>2519692
>I draw not write
i mean, you could learn to write your own fanfiction…? its not hard at all

No. 2519701

>>2519692
AO3 started years after MGS2 was released so it doesn't matter all that much because I only replied concerning your issue with Raiden being uglier in later games. The reason why is because of feedback the devs received before AO3 was even a thing in its creator's mind and Kojima definitely took Westerners' opinions into account just as much as Japanese fans' opinions. The guys being ugly in your opinion doesn't matter because they're fanfics, not fanart anyway. You can fill the gaps and pretend the guys are young and hot when reading these fanfics who cares. Ocelot as a young adult only looks weird because of the game's art style but he's not supposed to be ugly when young by the way.

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No. 2519705

Mods can you just ban this faggot ass cunt already

No. 2519708

>>2519698
i cant believe im defending autist-chan but why do you guys act like autists are emotionless robots incapable of being passionate about things or comprehending other peoples feelings

No. 2519711

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The issue with modern fandoms is that the autists who used to create fanfics and art are now addicted to social media and dopamine hits from online arguments. It really is that damn phone.

No. 2519714

>>2519702
the best fanfic writers are maniac-depressives, schizoids, or some sort of medicated cluster b
all male fanfic writers are autists, tho

No. 2519716

>>2519708
She isn’t doing herself any favors to disprove the stereotype here.

No. 2519719

>>2519708
Because that's male autism, men are socially coddled and told it's alright and even GOOD to be unfeeling and selfish, meanwhile women are told to conform to what other people want of them and a lot of autistic women wind up abused by their families for struggling to conform until they become hyper-empathetic as a defense mechanism. Of course, some autistic women end up like >>2519711 said, because they're growing up in nice, middle class suburban households with coddling mothers and become social rejects at school and they learn that being manipulative cunts online is cathartic, and that they can connect the dots with other people's behavior (pattern recognition!) to use therapyspeak buzzwords to shame other people out of fighting back.

The first brand of female autism usually writes incredible fanfic. The second brand of female autism usually writes incredibly bland fanfic and then blame everyone else for not writing shit that appeals to them specifically.

No. 2519721

>>2519711
I have a feeling fandoms back when BBS was a thing the autism wars were just as intense, just at a smaller scale. You can kinda see it on Usenet too.

No. 2519722

>>2519706
I think he definitely divided opinions between men and women in Japan because it's easier to check for a Japanese dev, and he made Raiden based on what Japanese women and teenage girls said they liked. And these test players said Snake from MGS1 is too walled for them 25 ago if that makes you feel better. I doubt he could do that with the Western audience because of how video games were almost exclusively marketed towards guys in general and game journalists were annoying as fuck too back then (like how everyone said Cloud and Squall from FF are gay faggots just because they're bishonen in touch with their emotions with tragic pasts). It's not like Kojima himself could have asked the few girls who played MGS2 in the US and Europe their feedbacks and I bet Konami in the West was treating MGS as a male exclusive franchise. I doubt male Japanese fans disliked Raiden though. At least not as much as Western fans. But that's just a guess.

tldr; it's not the female fans' fault at all if Raiden became less cute and relevant, it's because of marketing bullshit ran by men despite Kojima's effort to pander to women.

No. 2519723

>>2519721
I'm actually fucking shocked we haven't seen a second coming of the FF7 house or DAYD, maybe it's because we tend to turn these people into lolcows now before they can victimize too many people.

No. 2519725

>>2519708
>why do you guys act like autists are emotionless robots incapable of being passionate about things or comprehending other peoples feelings
>what is the definition of autism

No. 2519729

Nona made a good point, why can't you just imagine them being to your taste? I do it all the time.
It's not like there's any illustrations and you say you can draw, why not just draw them bishie?

No. 2519746

>>2519723
I would be so down for another FF House saga. That was a fun timeline to follow.

No. 2519762

>>2519702
>muh ableism
Are you lost?

No. 2519772

hate a bitch thats like "oh my god i cant believe people like (whatever series) in the big 25 sobbing emoji sobbing emoji" like damn i didnt know my interests have expiration dates, my bad

No. 2519778

>>2519772
Why are people so obsessed with shaming other people in, as they say, the "big 25?" You can't do shit without being called cringe.

No. 2519791

>>2519030
So it's "infight bait" to tell whiny fags to go get a job? At least I didn't call her a rape victim and mean it as an insult, shit.(baiting)

No. 2519795

>>2519723
>>2519746
Same, I’m a bit surprised there hasn’t been another FF7 house since fandom classics like MsScribe get reincarnated every so often (hivling for Hamilton, Santino Hassel for m/m romance).

But the main cows in the FF7 house were otakukin, which is a flavor of fandom crazy that isn’t around anymore. Yes there are kinnies on Tumblr but the otherkin had a mystical/spiritual bent since they believed they were reincarnated souls. Tumblr kinnies approach it through a mental illness angle, like DID or claiming multiple systems. The occult factor is what made the FF7 house like a religious cult.

No. 2519816

>>2519795
Ah, MsScribe, one of the very first cows I can remember following in real time. I recall trawling through all of the LJ ripoff sites for more info on her and Cassandra Clare's drama. What a simpler time.

No. 2519842

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Bad news nonnies…
>MyAniList is getting bought out by crypto company Gaudily
>The company is being invested in by Sony and Bandai Namco (including Crunchyroll)
>They want to use AI to combine assets, create a cryptocurrency called 'Soneium', and create new entertainment with ai
>Other groups included in this are Shuesha (Shonen Jump), TOHO, Aniplex, and Sanrio among others

No. 2519850

>I understand that much of the community feels one or more of the following: NFTs are scams, generative AI is killing artists' livelihoods, blockchain is killing the planet, web3 is a pipe dream!I'm not trying to say those opinions or concerns are invalid. What I'm trying to say is, just because a parent company explores using those technologies, doesn't mean those technologies are suddenly going to end up on MAL.

Looks like it won't be a sudden change escept for UI updates but definitely start changing emails and delete personal information you might still have on the site. And of course anything crunchyroll touches dies so the site will probably last another decade at the most.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2213696

No. 2519863

>>2519850
>>2519842
I don't like that I have to choose between web3 MAL or troon mod haven Anilist

No. 2519877

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>>2515231
Non-Pathologic nonnies please pray for the Pathologic nonnies in this thread. I've been a fan of that game since they re-published the first one as Classic HD in 2015 because I'm vaguely schizophrenic and I like games that are a bit weird, we're getting Pathologic 3 whenever at this point, we've had a free demo last month. The fandom is infested and I mean infested with gendies it's worse than the rats of the plague, and on top of that these grown women are now throwing every mental illness at the main character. Game has an apathy-mania mental state scale to balance or the character blows his brains out instead of a hunger/thirst/exhaustion meter: "OMG bipolar rep! BPD!!" Game has third-person dialogue passages because it's doing some vaguely pretentious art school narrative shit "he's obviously got DID!! Depersonalization representation!!!" Game has character going through the worst day of his life be reactive to noise "HE'S CANONICALLY AUSTISTIC!!!" it's so hard sharing a fandom with morons. I know I just need to stay in my corner, enjoy the games and do my thing, especially since I don't draw or write myself I just consoom and don't technically "need" to mingle, but there are a few fanartists I like the works of so I'm always dipping my toes into the fandom looking for scraps of good art and then immediately exiting like it's a pond full of gender-having mental-illness-faking piranhas. A new wave of profoundly annoying people is upon us once the full game actually releases, Dankovsky as a character is a morons-magnet. Sorry for the blog I just needed to bitch it out.

No. 2519893

>>2519863
Maybe try anime planet? I admittedly don't know what the mods are like, but the niche tags are fun to look through. I switched to it from MAL a few months ago anyway

No. 2519953

>>2519778
>>2519772
This is common behavior for teenagers/gen alpha kids on TikTok, especially males. They're ashamed of genuinely liking things, that's why their only interests are sports and flavor of the month shonen animes

No. 2519963

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Is mischaracterization a huge issue in fandoms?

No. 2519970

>>2519877
No I agree and it really shows how many people didnt play the game because its explicitly stated that the herbs in the town cause mental dysfunction, headaches, hallucinations, etc. Daniil would of course be more affected by it since he's the only person who isnt from the town and isnt used to it. Not to mention the whole experience is insanely traumatic and horrifying and most people would be completely tweaking out in his situation. I dont disagree with them that he might have some condition already but like… consider the setting?

No. 2519971

>>2519877
It's either speshul snowflake gendies you're dealing with or delusional fujos who draw Daniil basically like a woman while getting rammed by Burakh and other retarded TIF Daniil headcanons. I love this game but I stay away from the fandom as far as possible

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>>2519963
>>2519963
I'm only in the Transformers fandom tbh but yes there's so much mischaracterization. No, Optimus Prime isn't a fascist. No, Starscream isn't a poor widdle victim. No, they can't have top surgery, they're literal machines.

No. 2519977

>>2519963
It's a common thing if you're in any big fandom, yeah. I feel like it's gotten worse with how batshit headcanons are nowadays.

No. 2519978

>>2519963
Yes but it is especially worse with any fandom that is a gendie magnet

No. 2519981

>>2519975
As a fellow transformers fan I agree I also hate the omegaversefags (the whole reason for them going to war to preserve their species is that they cant reproduce as organic lifeforms) opmeg attracts some of the worst people around alreast in the western side. i also hate they troonify the few actual women transformers (fuck you idw for what you did to acree) camien and windblade get so much shitty troon headcanons

No. 2520014

>>2519981
Poor Windblade, she's like a lightning rod for the most autistic fans

No. 2520109

>>2519723
Honestly I think it's because most people nowadays in those kind of spaces are autistic shut-ins. They might e-date, kin characters and such, but never met in real life and as much they might make an orgy at VR Chat. Distance comunications are more than easy now, so the culture has changed.

No. 2520228

>>2519473
>old man yaoi
Go back, this is not twitter

No. 2520258

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>>2520228
Old man yaoi is a widely accepted fandom term to describe m/m ships with male characters who are 50+. You don't have to like the term (I find it obnoxious myself) but it's now part of fandom lingo, you'll find it on every social media with big fandom spaces, not just twitter.

Some of you blatant newfags get hung up over the weirdest things and you also love showing how much of a newfag you are by going "omg go back to twitter/reddit/girlsgogames" at any post you disagree with (and not posts with actual redditor redflags or something), as if it makes you any more credible as a farmer.

No. 2520282

>>2520258
People who shout "old man yaoi" aren't even into it, they just say it to sound quirky and funny

No. 2520315

>>2520258
99% of the ships that get tagged as old man yaoi are stupid meme ships like the Billford or the guys from the Minecraft movie.

No. 2520453

>>2520258
>something recently getting popular on twitter must mean that it came from twitter, therefore anyone who references the subject must be from twitter
This seems like a weirdly reliable way to clock a zoomer. Only zoomers think twitter and tiktok are what the internet revolves around.

No. 2520518

>>2504482
this reminds me how cream unicorn cookie was added into kingdom and suddenly became non binary when for several years he was always considered a gender non comforming male in ovenbreak. I really hate how much English localization of all the games change things like this, they even translate important story elements poorly

No. 2520559

>>2520258
I hate when this term gets applied to characters who are like 30 and aren’t even old

No. 2520563

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>>2520559
Reminds me when gachafags call adult woman "hags"

No. 2520567

>>2520563
I've always figured it was meant to parallel that, as in "you call women 25+ hags, then men 25+ are too."

No. 2520569

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why are joseimuke games so damn faggy? who is self inserting as some ugly male mc? not to mention, they're more often than not being treated as the default choice

No. 2520570

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>>2508203
God shadow milk is the ugliest fucking cookie run character ever created. Just look at this clusterfuck eyesore. He also says shit like "yap" and "pookie", its so cringe

No. 2520572

>>2520569
The male option is for fujos lol. I don’t even like BL but if you don’t want to play as a boy, just play as the girl player character standing next to him.

No. 2520579

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>>2520572
are fujos so greedy that an all male cast to ship together is not enough for them lol? reminder this is the ''canon'' twst mc that is going to get animated. pretty telling that even in joseimuke, women get the short end of the stick

No. 2520581

>>2520559
25yo+ moids are hags, most men are already balding by then.

No. 2520585

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>>2520570
Partially related, every time I see designs like this Cookie Run guy or many of the Jester-like characters from VivziePop's cartoons I am reminded of NiGHTS from the titular game (plus Reala too, NiGHTS' rival). It could just be that they're all jesters, sure, but I have a feeling that many of them were inspired by this relatively obscure old videogame.

No. 2520593

>>2520579
wait, isn't there a different mc per arc?

No. 2520594

>>2520579
Black Butler's author has always been a fujo, not to mention the anime is probably going the back and forth male>female>male>female pattern.
Given that one of the male protagonists is fat while the female protagonists are both cute self insertable reverse trap and gyaru, you shouldn't have anything to complain about.

No. 2520736

>>2520559
It should be used for 30 yr old moids even more often

No. 2520808

>>2520585
Glad I'm not the only one!

No. 2520815

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>>2519531
>Mouthwashing
A decent game, but the fanbase sucks very much. Glad it seems to be losing some relevancy already. Alien did the "stranded delivery crew in space with rape allegory" thing more creatively. 'the white chamber' did the "protag gets fellow crew members killed while in space, and takes a mind journey to realize they're a piece of shit before atoning for what they did" thing way better as a game IMO, and that game is 15 years MW's senior.
>Kurt Cobain
Didn't this guy deliberately spread a rumor that he almost raped a disabled girl? What was even the point of that? To spread awareness about sexual assault? If this man was born a zoomer, he would definitely troon out, so fuck "Polly", fuck "Rape Me" and whatever pretentious shit he had to say about sexual assault. If I was raped and some faggot grunge fucker made songs about it just to "spread awareness" because he's a male "feminist", I would personally take out a sheet of pristine paper with the finest pen I can get and write a very lengthy death threat before sending it straight to him.

No. 2520823

>>2520585
Yeah i see it too except nights is lovely and the clones are fugly

No. 2520921

>>2520581
>>2520736
Kek, I knew this would be the response. Anime men usually aren’t balding by 30 though

No. 2521028

>>2520258
‘old man yaoi’ is only a very recent term like ‘male wife’ it’s not something that’s been in use for decades. It’s perfectly reasonable to assume that someone that uses it is on the younger side and primarily uses certain websites.

No. 2521132

>>2520570
that's just the shitty English localization, they made him so fucking annoying to maximize pandering. his korean voice actor, and honestly all the other language actors are much better than his English va.
makes me miss the days before kingdom had english voice acting

No. 2521236

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can someone tell me why wanda fans are attacking bob so much in the mcu fandom?

No. 2521246

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>>2520921
Sadly thats not true anymore pickmes have invaded manga and anime

No. 2521249

>>2521246
Keep her name out of your filthy mouth.

No. 2521259

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>>2520921
>nooo dont call old men hags men age like fine wine!!!
I am going to call them hags and give them insecurities because its hot and funny. Cry about it.

No. 2521272

>>2521236
MCU Wanda fans attack everybody, including comic Wanda fans

No. 2521274

>>2521246
>that author
>pickme
She's closer to full on blackpill

No. 2521277

>>2520563
literal porn addicted sheep only see women as hentai categories.

No. 2521279

>>2521274
You wish lol if she was actually ''blackpilled'' she would undersand BL is a form of escapism from 3DPD scrotes and their uglyness and not poison it with her shit tier pickme fetishes.(fujo sperging)

No. 2521281

>>2521236
I'm speculating here but something that has to do with Bob being in avengers Doomsday and seething that Wanda was not included in the film

No. 2521283

>dime a dozen moe loli character that makes uguu sounds
>OMG she must be autistic!!!!
Why are modern weebs incapable of understanding basic anime tropes? is it mental illness, narcissim, trying to cope with their favourite media being for pedo otaku moids or what.

No. 2521286

>>2521279
>BL is a form of escapism from 3DPD scrotes
NTA but how is getting off to two men escapism from men? Literal cuck logic, and gay men hate women the most btw.(fujo sperging)

No. 2521287

>>2521286
They arent real men in the first place, they are cartoons. Making an anime guy resemble a 3DPD's defects is heresy.

No. 2521288

>>2521287
>They arent real men
Literal lolifag incel tier logic

No. 2521290

>>2521283
They want to attach themselves to a character they like because of a lack of a father figure.

No. 2521291

>>2521279
I think the Japanese fujo author knows more about bl than you.
You do know that character gets raped,loses everything in life, commits suicide, and goes to hell right?
A part of bl has always been centered on pain, maybe if you read bl for once you'd know that.

No. 2521295

>>2521292
Why is it gay though, I get not liking real life men but self inserting as the guy is some real TIF pipeline shit. Same with moids who watch/read yuri.

No. 2521296

>>2521288
Ah, you are baiting. Makes sense.

No. 2521300

>>2521291
Do you know sol BL exists..right? not everything has to be 3deep5u and navel gazing to be BL. That guy is ugly as shit and its disgusting that pickme wants to force her bald fetish onto women. When westerners add ugly characters in calarts slop they get rightfully mocked and called tumblr tards but when a japanese artist does it weebs go ''UH OH JAPAN''. I dont care how tryhard and fake deep the story is i am not reading a genre that for decades has been about HOT MEN having sex with other HOT MEN if it doesnt have HOT MEN. If i want to watch something with ugly men suffering i can watch literally any western made comic/videogame/tv show

No. 2521304

>>2521300
>Do you know sol BL exists..right? not everything has to be 3deep5u and navel gazing to be BL.
Fakejo, that's why I said a part I don't act like only the thing I like should exist unlike you with your garbage cgdct unproblematic taste.
It's hilarious to try to blame western pandering when shitters like you are the reason why bl manga constantly gets dropped and bashed for being "too problematic"

No. 2521307

>>2521304
I have no idea what you are talking about. I am not touching anything with an ugly moid on it no matter how much you try to calm its actually deep and blah blah. Good for you if you like that idubbz sex offender looking faggot but i am not a delusional weeb and i dont hold japanese authors in a pedestal. You sound like a delusional weeb that thinks japanese people can do no wrong.

No. 2521310

>>2521307
>I'm not touching it
Then who the fuck cares?
>i am not a weeb
Nobody thinks you are one.
Who would ever take someone's opinion on a author seriously if they're so painfully proud about never reading anything?

No. 2521322

>>2521246
The amount of butthurt this manga generates still surprises me

No. 2521435

>>2519842
I dont get it, are they going to use user ratings to build the "ideal" anime/manga

No. 2521565

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out of all the fandom drama you can witness, I firmly believe that scanlators/uploaders wanting to monopolize a series is the most retarded kind.

No. 2521579

>>2521565
It's stupid, but as long as they do the work and upload shit for everyone it's fine by me kek

No. 2521611

>>2521565
Lmao I love hearing about people who snipe a series using MTL and then the original translators suddenly release a batch of chapters they had been holding back for months

No. 2521656

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>>2520572
I dont want my husbandos to be cannon faggots in a cannon alt timeline

No. 2521935

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Anyone remember zerdasher? Chinese “butch4butch” “yuri” artist who said people who don’t ship appledash are butchphobic >>2440428

She appeared on my tl talking about wanting to deactivate because of the hate she gets. Looked at her media and what do ya know, she fucking draws futashit and gave buff farm girl a dick lol.

No. 2521941

>>2521935
That's disturbing.

No. 2521949

>>2521935
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. EVERY TIME.

No. 2521950

>>2521935
I feel like this artist is larping as Chinese like Pumpkin gentleman was pretending to be native japanese

No. 2521968


No. 2521969

>>2521950
asians are capable being cows too jfc

No. 2521975

>>2521968
okay, tranny.

No. 2521987

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Wild to see so much vitriol over a fictional romance between non-blood related adoptive siblings that end up not being legally siblings anymore.

No. 2521989

>>2521975
Nta KEK mte nonna

>>2520569
What game is this? It looks so nice

No. 2521999

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>>2521989
That game is called 18trip! It's a free JP mobile gacha husbando collector game, fully voiced including mc (who can be either male and female), no romance or sexual content, tower defense gameplay. Found a detailed write up on it here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1d27wkd/18trip_review_new_jp_husbando_game_has_tower/

No. 2522002

>>2520569
yumes have like lads and the whole of straight media to enjoy, you lot are the greedy ones.(infight/bait)

No. 2522005

>>2522002
>whole of straight media to enjoy
Most of which is geared towards men, let's be honest.

No. 2522007

>>2522005
And if it isn't for men it's mostly pickme garbage.

No. 2522008

>>2521935
worst mane 6 ship anyways, yawn

No. 2522016

>>2522008
Raridash and Appledash are so overrated. Now, RariTwi and PinkieDash? That's where it's at.

No. 2522020

>>2522008
no1currs that youre a rarijack shipper

No. 2522031

>>2522020
Rarijack is just as overrated.

No. 2522047

Rarijack is cool.

No. 2522191

>>2521969
Yeah but everything about her is so western. Her art is too terrible for a Chinese artist

No. 2522347

>>2521935
What's the logic of being a lesbian and liking futashit? Is it like pegging but the strap feels something? Like what?

No. 2522350

>>2521935
>im a lesbian yuri artist u guiz!
>draws futashit
no you arent kek just go draw yaoi or josei

No. 2522362

>>2522347
The logic is anyone calling themselves a lesbian and drawing pony futashit is that they were lying about being a lesbian to begin with. Why? Marketing. Moids love the pornographic delusion of lesbians being into their weiners combined with moids being the biggest consoomers of futaporn. Put two and two together and you have $$$.

The majority of people online calling themselves a lesbian online are actually lying because their words and actions don't add up. Real lesbians are offline or closeted because if they call themselves lesbians they get called terfs and sent rape threats until they DFE. Unfortunately I have seen it happen too often to lesbian artists, even the furry ones and I'm not even a furry. I just caught wind of it because the callout post appeared on my algorithm.

No. 2522364

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>>2522191
>seems so western
>art is too terrible
That is some flimsy reasoning against her being chinese kek, looking through her posts she hasn’t actually claimed to be mainland so it’s also possible she could be diaspora(ngl I’ve seen zoomers from SE asia act similarly dumb and “western”, the influence of twitter and tiktok has really done a number on them). Long shot but if there are any chinese speakers here maybe they can judge her chinese

No. 2522389

>>2522347
ugly and low self esteem having women often decide they are lesbian or asexual because their mental issues prevent them from having happy relationships with men and they don't let things like "not being attracted to women" or "being attracted to men" get in the way

No. 2522418

>>2522191
>>2522364
>but she’s acting cringe therefore she MUST be a westerner!1!1
>even sea zoomers act like cringe westerners and not like the based sugoi drama-free robots i expect asians to act like it’s the wests fault reee!!!

No. 2522420

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>This account is for posting and celebrating the butches and studs of the world!
>misandrist in bio
>posts walled moids
>banner is about her calling moids butch lesbians
I know these types of accounts are headcanon central but damn she couldn’t even give the headcanon to some tomboy character instead of a male? Even posting princess peach in pants would be preferable kek. Just scrolling through the media there are so many male characters, seems like more than half of them are. These people should quit kidding themselves and call it male lesbian of the day at this point.

No. 2522489

>>2521283
what a culture of becoming obsessed with your identity does to an mf'er.

No. 2522491

>>2519457
pick up a pen and write then

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I fucking hate fakejoshis

No. 2522506

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>>2522418
Chill out kek, I was agreeing with you. But I also agreed she sounds western/western-influenced because she talks like western zoomers and uses meme phrases that came from them. Same goes for SEA zoomers when they speak english online. Western influence through fandom and social media isn’t a new thing, omegaverse for instance originated from western fandoms then spread to asian fandoms. Acknowledging that doesn’t erase mainland asians acting dumb of their own accord.

No. 2522508

>>2522499
What game are they talking about here? What kind of casual-ass aspiring fujo gets filtered by rape? It's like watching hockey and complaining about all the fist fights.

No. 2522510

>>2522508
Hundred line

No. 2522512

>>2522016
I was always partial to Flutterdash

No. 2522513

>>2522508
Nta but I thought it was dramatical murder

No. 2522514

>>2522512
Seconding
>>2522513
DMMD's purely BL but I get why you'd assume that.

No. 2522518

>>2522513
Zoomers/alphies getting triggered by Dramatical Murder is funny every time. It's one of the most famous BL/yaoi games of all time, practically a heritage piece. I always have the impulse to share good old Hadaka Shitsuji with them. That's some classic shit right there.

No. 2522523

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>>2521656
They're drawings. Grow the fuck up or play a different game.

No. 2522534

>>2522389
SA but as someone who went through the same song and dance, I get it but that doesn't excuse the amount of sperging over how gay they are then turn around and draw a woman getting dick down by another women. It's like being attracted to femboys—the girlier the better— but then claiming to be bi? I know actual bisexuals, the most feminine guys they like look like bishes, not twinks in school girl uniforms. Ditto for lesbians too who know for a fact they want women with pussies not dicks. Maybe it could be a fetish they have but don't want to do. But when you draw butches, slap a dick on them, or both have dicks, I can't help but question if you're really lesbian? I like men, package and all, and I would die than make cuntboy porn.

No. 2522538

>>2522016
I always thought RariShy was cute, especially since they go on spa days together in the show kek

No. 2522545

>>2522499
I can understand getting annoyed when female characters get raped but who the fuck cares when a male character gets raped, especially when you're a fujoshi?

No. 2522560

>>2522545
There's a lot of annoying twitter/tumblr girls and wannabe breadtube guys who get all pearl clutchy over male characters getting raped, sometimes more so if they're raped by a female character.

No. 2522571

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>>2522538
Yeah, RariShy is cute too. Especially since there's a lot of episodes where Rarity acknowledges that Fluttershy has a knack for fashion and modeling.

No. 2522576

>>2522560
Oh my goodness, yes. They're so annoying. They love saying "if the roles were reversed…" and it makes me wonder if they just cover their eyes and stop reading the moment they see anything on the Internet.

No. 2522579

>>2522576
What they don't get is that when a guy gets raped in fiction 99% of the time it's just a thing to add to his tragic backstory while if a woman gets raped that becomes her entire story arc and motivation.
When rape is romanticized in BL it's because it's used as a catalyst for the couple to get together (seme feelings are so intense and strong that they have to force them onto the uke) meanwhile when a woman is raped it's used for mindbreak (can't live without cocks anymore type shit)

No. 2522653

>>2522576
>if the roles were reversed…
I hate this, especially when people already defend female characters getting raped like their life depends on it. I know women have different motivations for that from moids, but still.

No. 2522798

>>2522579
>rape used as a catalyst for the couple to get together
I’ve always hated this

No. 2522821

I find it funny how everytime embarrassing behaviour of chinese artists gets documented, at least one person here goes "NOOO, MY HECKIN BASED CHINKERINO WOULD NEVER SAY THAT ITS AN AMERITARD LARPING".(racebaiting)

No. 2522826

>>2522579
>When rape is romanticized in BL it's because it's used as a catalyst for the couple to get together (seme feelings are so intense and strong that they have to force them onto the uke)
i've always loved this

No. 2522830

>>2521283
I can kind of understand this because it's Umineko and it's meant to be read more seriously than your average thing. Won't watch the video but her inability to understand social cues and her weird noise (stimming) could definitely be read as autism, but I feel it was more likely generalized mental illness. Her mother was not equipped to deal with that.

Again, would not feel this way if it were a 1 cour CGDCT show about having tea after school or something.

No. 2522837

>>2522821
Uhh ignoring the racist shit, its clear alot of anons dont really have exposure to Chinese artists only the famous ones. They can be hella cringe and weird than your western counterparts. Just visit niche fandom Weibos and you'll see

No. 2522907

>>2522798
>>2522826
The duality of nona

No. 2523106

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>>2522798
Same. I'm someone who has read and is still reading plenty of BL with rapeshit because they have other elements to attract my interest, but using rape as drama is such an annoying and brainless trope. Personally I've found that most fujos (both eastern and western) are either nonchalant about this issue or only enthusiastic about the borderline rape stuff that's used for drama ("I like you so much I cannot stop my dick uwu" shit) and not full on "I'm a POS sadist whose dick can't get hard without dislocating your jaw with my punches while I give you an anal prolapse" type of content where the violence is the main appeal. Most of the big fujo series I saw get a lot of traction were the ones that were one of the following
>not explicit and just bait (free!)
>not explicit, has romance (YOI)
>explicit but no rape (nukani)

Now a days rapey webtoon shit like jinx is getting traction but honestly I have met a very small number of people who unironically liked such stuff? Maybe it's more common among bdsm-pilled young genzs on tiktok, I dunno. BL spaces love to discuss about nitro chiral who do have plenty of rape in their games, but honestly I don't think their games other than dmmd have managed to attract a big international fan base. And dmmd didn't have rape as it's selling point, it was mostly contained in bad endings and one edgy route most seemed to dislike or ignore.
I'm sleepy and kind of forgot what point I was trying to make but anyway I agree nonnita.

No. 2523110

>>2523106
I think that the genre has mostly moved past rape as a consistent theme. There are, of course, exceptions. I wonder if the switch happened when homosexual became less taboo in Japanese culture. Sure, it's still not exactly loud and proud over there, but I think a lot of people now know an openly gay person and it's less, uh, criminal for lack of a better word.

No. 2523111

>>2522830
it reads more as a trauma response to rosa's abusive parenting than anything else. also the when they cry series is fucking retarded now.

No. 2523114

>>2523106
I'd say rape in bl has always been a fairly popular staple, sure the mainstream anime doesn't have it but they can't really adapt that sort of stuff to begin with.
Check bl rankings and they still are fairly high, check popular authors and it shows up in a lot of work.
I think its more that for the next generation, the genre is getting divided by algorithms into two seperate styles, many newgen fujos don't care for things like angst, violence, and other problematic elements and want things to go for more of a sol direction. Some authors want to make it big and drop it to go for either mainstream vanilla/no homo that will get a better chance at adaption or go full on seinen.

No. 2523117

>>2523106
>I have met a very small number of people who unironically liked such stuff?
I mean clearly it's popular since it's a common trope.

No. 2523155

>>2523106
Idk, I've always liked both fluffy and edgy. At the end of the day I just want to see my 2D boys being whores.

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>>2523110
I think the same, while BLVNs still tend to have at least one BE with rape, it's not like the 2000s era BLs where often the rape was basically in every single route and often whole routes were just about the uke getting raped 93748392 times until he started believing the rape is love trope. Some of them still provided good entertainment in how utterly crazy they went with the ideas like Kichiku Megane (YMMV), but many games (and other media like BL manga too tbh) just used the trope like a crutch and annoyed me to death.

>>2523117
I didn't mean all BL containing some level of dubcon/rape, I was specifically referring to the cookie cutter korean BL with rapeape top and no chemistry like Jinx. Every single fujo I've talked to hated Jinx to death, kek. Maybe it's because I hang out with fujos that are working adults and never installed that cursed app tiktok.

>>2523155
>At the end of the day I just want to see my 2D boys being whores.
Relatable

No. 2523207

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Has cuntboy always been massively popular among fujos? I usually stick to niche ships and have not seen much of it. But recently, I got into a popular ship and the sheer amount of cuntboy and male lactation fanart I am seeing is melting my brain into a fine sludge. It’s even more frustrating when Asian artists hold polls about what to draw, and everyone overwhelmingly votes for things like the character lactating or having a pussy. I try not to post about this since it summons the spergs, but I have reached my breaking point.

No. 2523210

>>2523207
If they're fixated on including vagina, they aren't real fujos. They're just hetfags who are too insecure to look at actual female bodies or want to be part of more popular fandoms. The rise of troonery has given them all permission to do this.

No. 2523215

>>2523198
Isn't that more the "super seme" trope? That trope has been dying for sure in recent years since most see it as a joke.
>>2523207
It's weird, there's basically no bl manga with cuntboy out there despite the alternative futa yuri having several manga series, the closest is genderbend that has man turn into woman and back.
Guess it depends on what fandom it is?

No. 2523216

>>2523207
oldfag fujo here, no, not at all. this shift has happened with the rapid increase of gendies. ftms go into fujo spaces and claim everyone is homophobic while self-inserting into fucking everything, giving it titchop and pussy or pussy with boobs. they draw a male and put female sex characteristics on it. this was unheard of when i was consuming monumental amounts of yaoi back in the day.

No. 2523228

>>2523210
>>2523216
Yeah I can see why Western fans do this. Troonism is too mainstream there and it is absolutely impossible to avoid. What baffles me more is seeing so many Asian artists especially Chinese, and SEA artists drawing this stuff too. I guess as times change, so do tastes. Or maybe it's just a fetish thing.

>>2523215
>there's basically no bl manga with cuntboy
Absolutely. The only cuntboy yaoi I had read was years ago, and it was a oneshot called Kalimeris Porno. Even there the guy was a herm so he had both sets of genitals. You are right it is a Hoyo sloppa ship, so maybe it just attracts that kind of crowd.

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>>2523207
I agree with >>2523216, this is a very recent phenomenon. Cuntboy retardation was vanishingly rare in public fandom spaces even pre-covid, it was a very niche fetish I only occasionally saw some random Asian artist draw under an assload of warnings and spoilers. After gender nonsense became mainstream, every single spicy straight westerner was doing it. I block all gender havers and their overly passionate allies in the fandoms I'm in so I literally never run into cuntboy anymore, this scorched earth strategy is the only way to protect myself. I'm not active on preddit, so when I go there I sometimes get spooked with nasty shit like >>>/m/477373.

No. 2523246

>>2523228
it appears that western ideals have seeped into asian fujo spaces. they are still leagues ahead of us, keeping the old guard exclusion of anything but 2 guys with dicks fucking while plainly presenting themselves as female, but i think loud screaming westerners have made a lot of them feel even guiltier. i said this in another thread but all of this is women policing other women. fuck, even men don't moralfag about yaoi, they just complain about it. i have never seen a moid cry about how women shouldn't like yaoi. i can count on one hand the amount of actual gay men i've seen be upset (and not even at yaoi, but at movies where a woman writes gay male romance but that's vanishingly rare). ALL of it is born out of the way society shames women for having sexual urges and especially ones that don't align with the status quo of being gatekeepers to their own vagina and doing what a man wants, and putting him first. even on this very website you have spergs who rage and rage about the existence of fujos. women who are afraid of falling out of line of the constant gaze of the oppressing male that lives in their brain (all of us have this gaze whether we want it or not) will attack other women for "blatantly" enjoying something sexual like, idk, objectifying dumbass moids. went on a tangent but i'm positive that there is absolutely nothing to the fujo shaming but self-hate and wanting to stop other women from indulging in their desires, free from what men dictate they do sexually.

No. 2523249

>>2523207
Cuntboyfags are the biggest pieces of shit in any fandom at any given time aside from serious contenders like troons and pedos. They have a massive superiority complex towards "hetshippers" while at the same time being pests to artists actually drawing gay porn. You can't turn them down nicely or say you're not into it, and it's always the same retards drawing that cringe daddy dom x thinly veiled self insert little girl shit

No. 2523340

>>2523249
Even disregarding gendieshit and harassing artists, the chinese cuntboyfags also end up being just as mentally ill when you actually bother translating their tweets lmao. It is just a mental illness red flag whether the person is tif or not.

No. 2523362

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Cringe ass image

No. 2523363

>>2523362
I mean she isn't wrong

No. 2523369

>>2523207
I fucking hate cuntboy / FtM and see it all the time in otherwise good fics or art. Worse is when they don't tag for it so you get jumpscared by a male character's pussy out of nowhere. I see Asians especially Chinese artists draw cuntboy in a similar way to futanari, but western gendies always make it super trans with zippertits and ugly pride flags.

No. 2523378

>>2523362
I hate twitter speak

No. 2523428

>>2523207
>heteros called cringe for being "basic" if they liked straight ships
>fujoshi called fetishizers for sexualizing male characters as gay
>everyone just starts making straight ships with extra steps
>the content somehow ends up being even more fetishistic and deprived than what they were avoiding

>>2523228
Yes, I thought it was strange how it was appearing more often in even korean comics. Although, typically more deprived stuff, I think most asian artists are open with it being a fetish and nothing more, while western artists mask it as some profound inclusion thing.

No. 2523482

>>2523249
>>2523340
Fucking this. They're all insane and must never be interacted with at all costs. They exude mental illness and wish to bring everyone down with their mind disease and screech when you state you're not into it. They are self-inserters to a far gone degree. Worse than yumes. At least yumes are stacy enough to love themselves and use themselves to ship their husbando, not some mutilated male

No. 2523485

Threadpic is infuriating and gross

No. 2523490

>>2523207
Reminds me when I got shit on for yumeing a BL guy when I was younger kek. Dunno why that was such a big deal but the fetishized tif art isn't.

No. 2523491

>>2523207
You probably didn't know this, but the reaction image you used is from a loli rape doujin where an elementary school aged girl is molested by a much older man and was used as the inspiration for a man to rape a real life girl using the method presented in the doujin, to which the creator took no accountability.

No. 2523498

>>2523491
dear god males need mass castrating

No. 2523499

>>2523491
nta but I've never heard about this doujin leading to an actual crime what the fuck

No. 2523501

>>2523499
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/1706/15/news163.html
It's hard to find sources on, but here's a Japanaese article about it.
He has a wikipedia article as well if you're interested.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9

No. 2523502

>>2523491
>Court proceedings revealed Yanagimoto meticulously planned his crimes by tracking the girls’ family schedules so that he could break in when his victims were alone.
He premeditated it. Moids are subhuman.

No. 2523521

>>2523491
so many anime reaction images have such sordid backgrounds

No. 2523529

>>2523491
same for the reaction imagine of the girl holding the knife, its also from a loli doujin

No. 2523536

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>>2523521
Got to make your own reactions from stuff you know.

No. 2523539

>>2523529
Which one? I don't remember seeing that kind of reaction image

No. 2523615

>>2523362
yeah twitter is very cringe but that image is accurate. flanderization happens all the time

No. 2523660

>>2523362
Why are fandomtards refuse to read the source and make what they will with it? Liking problematic media won't kill you but god forbid you're accurate with the character.

No. 2523690

I was born in 2005, and my interests present and past reached their peak popularity before I was even in fandom spaces and it makes me sad that I'll never get to witness it. Makes me think I was born in the wrong generation because I don't like what's popular with my age demographic kek. I'll rattle off a few past and present interests to get a better idea
>persona (3&4)
>fullmetal alchemist
>hetalia
>metal gear solid
>black butler
>bleach
>trigun 98
>various old-ish vns
It really shouldn't affect me, but whenever I think about it makes me pretty depressed tbh

No. 2523717

>>2523690
>Persona 3&4
Girl, a remake of the first one came out last year and the later has a super active fandom today kek In fact I would say their fandom are more active now than back when they came out (they're super annoying tho, Persona is easily one of the worst fanbases I have been in. It was more chill back then, but I think that goes for every fandom unfortunately).
But I do get you. I'm way older but a poorfag so I never got to experience games besides Pokemon and a few basic others growing up because I had no internet or money for magazines (and could only afford 1 game per year) so until recently I haven't been able to experience them. I'm very grateful for the high seas, but also now all my interests are dead DS/PS2 IPs with an even deadder fandom.

I'm on them, but from what I know a handful of the one you list still have active fandoms (doesn't black butter even have an anime airing currently?), so don't lose hope. Even if you get into a series popular right now, the online culture has changed a ton, so you aren't missing too much. Rather than the peak of said fandoms, I think what you (and lots of us) miss is how the internet was back then, there were still lots of drama but generally we could be more free and "cringe" in LJ and such days of fandom.

No. 2523734

>>2523690
You are only two years older than my eldest nephew and you have way taste better than him kek. I loved loved loved Bleach because Ichigo and Rukia were like a power couple to me, also power ups are Cool. I remember buying the Hetalia dvds when they came out too and they were crazy expensive, I also remember begging my dad to buy me a Death Note box set kek.

When I got a DSi for Christmas (this was before smartphones really took off and parents did not allow their kids to touch their expensive smartphones) I would load up FF.net on the browser and ruin my sleep schedule every night with Bleach and Hetalia fanfiction kek. I think as a newer fan you have the ability to archive fanworks a lot more easily, but oddly it feels more overwhelming than ever to sift through all the memes and junk to find them, especially with A.I. flooding deviantart and pixiv nowadays and algorithms fighting against you. What's your experience been as a new fan into these things?

No. 2523756

>>2523717
Thank you for your reassurance
>I think what you (and lots of us) miss is how the internet was back then, there were still lots of drama but generally we could be more free and "cringe" in LJ and such days of fandom.
This is probably the case, I got into fandom stuff during the cultural shift of it being passionate nerds who were cringe but loved stuff with all their heart to irony-poised everything is cringe hypersensitive sjws who would've been normies if not for social media influence. I think being in this state of limbo and not realizing what I had taken for granted made me have these types of feelings with some "le born in the wrong generation" sprinkled in in regards to my interests. I seriously don't understand why these types of people came in and ruined the fun for everyone instead of normie'ing out in peace.
>>2523734
Based, I would nonstop watch Bleach in middle school and I loved Ichiruki as well, hate Orihime. Speaking of Hetalia, I actually have a really cringe weeaboo memory where in early middle school we had to bring a book a class and state what it was and I felt so embarrassed for bringing in the Hetalia manga as my book that I just didn't share it at all lol.
>What's your experience been as a new fan into these things?
Sometimes fun, sometimes empty especially when you see get a glimpse of old fan content and see what things were like back then. It's also a lot harder to find people into these interests because there's less to discuss as these series have long since dried up, like FMA and Bleach (got into it in middle school before the remake). But stuff like Black Butler and MGS where there's still content being released in some way I have a much easier time finding people into it, and can have actual discussions.

No. 2523802

>>2523690
>Makes me think I was born in the wrong generation
All these things are way more accessible now than ever. I'm more than 10 years older than you and liked JPRGs, I started getting into Persona 3 and 4 in early 2012 and the series was exclusively in English, you couldn't legally download the games except for P3P on the PS store and the P1 and P2IS remakes, you only could rely on word of mouth to know anything about them because the series was still somewhat niche, not everyone had smartphones and/or a good enough computer to download an emulator and the games illegally, etc. This somewhat applies to MGS too, if you didn't have a PS1 and/or a PS2 then you couldn't do much. If I were your age instead of having to learn English and look for physical copies of games like I'm treasure hunting I would have enjoyed Persona games very easily by just downloading them on my laptop and playing them in my first language. I think you should try to be more positive about it. I see as much, if not more people posting fanart of Megaten games in general now than a decade ago too, mostly on twitter. And Persona 4's fandom was already total trash in early 2010, think of all the "Naoto is a transboy and I know it because I watched someone play the game on youtube" discourse from back then if you ever saw it. I think the only real negative point I can think of is that you and other younger fans could very easily find spoilers like Adachi is the killer or the MC dies in P3 online because it's not considered spoilers anymore.

As for the manga and anime listed, tell yourself that following them when they were ongoing and still far from being over was a struggle on its own. It obviously doesn't apply to Black Butler yet.

No. 2523814

>>2523802
>As for the manga and anime listed, tell yourself that following them when they were ongoing and still far from being over was a struggle on its own.
This, there's good stugf that in 20 years or so will be given the "I wish I was part of that generation" treatment, but right now its a pain to remember to keep up with release, discussions are hard to come by, and if you try to bring them up in places like this people will call them slop and criticize on how boring/ugly/poorly paced they are and how things were better 20 years ago. It's just the way it is.

No. 2523878

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I have a lot of resentment over the fact that female dominated fandoms (especially ones popular with teenage girls) are often the target of misogynistic attacks. Women and girls will mind their own business and enjoy things in their own communities only for moids to barge in and harass/ridicule them. It happens to fangirls of 90s boybands all the way to women into romance books. Moids can have walls of funko pops or spend all day playing loli gacha games and they still won't have to face a fraction of the hate that women and girls get for innocent interests. I just hope the tides will turn one day and moids have to live in shame for enjoying anything. I remember when I was a kid I really loved Justin Bieber, I was about 8/9 and all I can remember was the mockery and cutforbieber shit. I would scroll through hundreds of posts/comments telling him to kill himself/do a flip just because girls liked him.

No. 2523893

>>2523155
nta and I like both fluffy and edgy too I just think that the “rape is love” trope is honestly the worst of both worlds because it’s meant to interpreted as romantic on an otherwise cutesy couple. it’s not even allowed to be properly edgy or even angsty since it’s so often just brushed off. it ends up reading as lazy and unwilling to develop/change the characters.

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>>2523878
This was the reason why I was ashamed to like anything extremely girly as a kid because i used to think if something is exclusively popular with girls then it's "bad and uncool"

No. 2523919

>>2523878
Same, I read twilight as a teenager but stayed away from fam spaces because the sheer reee-ing from men about it was too much for me. I didn't even realize it until I saw that Lindsey Elis video about it that I realized that's why kept my social circle closed off from my brother and his friends.

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>>2523690
>nona born in 2005
>le wrong generation for everything I was obsessed with in high school
I know you didn't mean to but…

No. 2523991

I wish we had more female mc's like park gaeul

No. 2524008

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>>2523991
for those who haven't read girl under trial, park is a cringy pathetic girl with a bad home life who manipulates and blackmails the two hottest guys into fake dating her, even when she's publicly dating one of them, she'll have make out session with the other, she's so fucking based

No. 2524015

>>2523982
I'm three years older than her and even i felt old reading that.

No. 2524024

>>2524015
same but I think it's because the cutoff was right between 2014/2016 for the downfall of fandom spaces. I distinctly remember reading Free! magazines and writing bad AOT fanfics(ErenxLevi) with my friends in middle school and then seeing 2 of those girls completely troon out by sophomore year.

No. 2524033

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>>2524008
>>2523991
Thank you for the rec, I cant wait to read this

No. 2524039

>>2524033
please review when you're done, it's one of my favorite series

No. 2524041

>>2524024
I'm old enough that there were no troons in my high school (not anyone out, at least) nor in any of my online friend/fandom groups as a teen - young adult. I vaguely remember one of the moids who orbited us in HS being into MLP (which I think had just released its first season) but I was lucky enough to miss the worst of it before I became a fully functioning adult.

No. 2524043

>>2524024
This happened with a girl i knew in middle school who was really into undertale who trooned out over the summer between middle and high school.

No. 2524045

>>2524043
Many such cases.

No. 2524046

>>2524024
I'm 25 and remember in middle school how fandoms (free, homestuck, aot, superwholock, black butler) were fun and cringy before a big shift in 2016-2017

No. 2524048

>>2524046
2016/2017 was the big shift, I think, but it'd been building up for years in more niche spaces before blowing up on tumblr (which is where most fandom interactions happened). I personally think it was a specific response to the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage, which had been the defining social justice crusade for most of the 90s and 00s. People needed a new way to prove their progressiveness and along came troons. That explains TIFs and MOGAI and the stupidity that was Quiltbag or whatever the fuck but I wonder what triggered the corresponding rise in TIMs.

No. 2524054

It's weird that no one has talked about covid, the lockdown has made the general culture so much worse and turned so many people into troons and degenerates

No. 2524056

>>2524046
A while ago I think someone itt said something along the lines of voltron being the catalyst for the state of modern fandom and its moralfaggotry and I believe it tbh

No. 2524060

>>2524054
COVID just made a bad situation worse, imo. It took what was already there and pressure cooked it.
>>2524056
Voltron was an interesting case because it came out right when social justice in the modern sense became popular. Plus it had an English speaking production team that communicated with and participated in the fandom, which was the secret sauce for awful shit. It had an anime style but didn't require you to wait for fansubs or translations, and the production staff were right there on Twitter where their passiveness enabled a lot of the worst of the fandom's lunacy. (After all, if your troon headcanon wasn't canon, wouldn't the writers have something to say if you tweeted them? Their silence was clearly a sign that you were right and that everyone else was wrong!)

No. 2524097

>>2524056
It was Steven Universe and Homestuck. Steven Universe's near constant crew member drama, along with the gendie subtext.
Homestuck's fandom power, and their diverse design takes of the existing characters.

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Not an unpopular opinion on LC but there's a lot of female ff authors who claim to be asexual and it just comes across as a big misunderstanding of female sexuality. Especially the emphasis on character dynamic and setting in erotica
https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1kmi6f1/how_many_of_you_are_actually_on_the/

No. 2524118

Blogpost-y but kind of relevant to the current fandom thread topic.

Reading about how Voltron spurred on a new level of moralfaggotry makes me remember the time my american long-term-internet-friend (we went on holiday together and everything) accused me of being a terf because I didn't believe bruce jenner was a brave stunning transbian, but she was writing shirokeith underage age gap incest fanfic at the same time. Truthfully I don't actually care about that but it was funny how she was able to conveniently put aside the fact she was getting off to that to lecture me about how I was a bad person for not believing that drag race was progressive and that I don't believe transbians are real. For the record she was a fat virgin and older than me so it felt like there was this sort of low-key competition to claim some level of superiority over me. I kind of assume a lot of "proshippers" are like this because of this experience, where they use fanfic to gain some sort of sexual currency instead of just going out and having sex with somebody and being normal.

Anyway I'm not american so during her lecture it felt like I was being told off by an angry 5 year old, especially since her country's social rules did not apply to my country's social rules. Also the shirokeith age gap incest fic was such low hanging fruit where I could have brought it up during her lecture, but I didn't bother because it would feel like I was just moralfagging back at her and I didn't want to create a moralfag cycle, I just let her sperg and blocked her afterwards. We'd been friends for 4-ish years so it felt annoying.

Has anyone else had this issue where there's, like, this cultural difference with other fans and you could easily use their "problematic" bullshit against them but you choose not to in order to be the bigger person? Or just had similar experiences to me in general in other ways?

No. 2524169

>>2524118
>Anyway I'm not american so during her lecture it felt like I was being told off by an angry 5 year old, especially since her country's social rules did not apply to my country's social rules.
I have a friend irl who's heading towards this path. But nowadays we only talk online because she moved very far away. We're 30 and 31 this year and met in university, none of us are American but she's embrassing American trans trends for some reason so it still applies. I'm adding this for context:
>we met in our first year of university because we had most of our lectures and group projects together
>she looks like a regular tomboyish nerd
>we make small talk, we have the same OTP from a JRPG that was considered niche in our country, we're both fujoshi and we both like Hetalia
>she's a typical tumblr weeb, a bit shy and socially awkward
>fast forward to several years later, she skips classes to play video games and won't shut up baout her troon online friends like our rl friends and I know or care about them despite her being a foreign student and needing to be very careful with her grades as a result
>she still likes the pairing we talked about when we met but won't stop saying the game itself is super problematic
>same with Hetalia and Supernatural, straight up ashamed of having enjoyed it long ago
>got into Voltron early on and wouldn't stop telling me to watch it for Klance but it was a very boring show for kids. It only gave me context to understand what was going on when the last season aired and we had a good laugh about it but that's it
>won't shut up about jkr being transphobic so she wants to get rid of her HP merchs
>I suspect that she wants to transition because now she talks like a man in our language online
>won't stop insulting most of the people in her country for being savages because these people aren't as rich as her and are too busy trying to survive and feed their kids instead of learning about queer theory on tumblr
>if anyone talks about non fandom related things in the group chat she will at best give a vague one word reply and lose interest

No. 2524183

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>>2523991
The premise was interesting, but I lost interest later on. It is just like every other Korean manhwa where the girl starts wearing makeup and then becomes a 10/10 bombshell. And then it's revealed that she had always been pretty and it was just the glasses and braces that made her ugly. The final chapter almost made me puke, where she sees herself in the genuinely ugly, pimply moid and then tells him that she will kiss him. Genuinely vomit-inducing, especially since she keeps talking shit about ugly women in multiple chapters but doesn’t give the same treatment to the ugly moid. Yunhye and Hyeseo were my fav characters.

No. 2524218

>>2524183
I've learned to love/hate her, she's a horrible person and probably the worst person you'd want to be friends with, but I support her because she's an unapologetically horrible female mc.

No. 2524254

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>>2524183
>the girl starts wearing makeup and then becomes a 10/10 bombshell
I started reading after nona ITT posted it and got hooked but am pretty disappointed by that aspect too because it’s such a banal trope, although I was aware going in because official art shows her newer look. I’m still more fond of her original look. Her being so insecure and narcissistic, it makes sense she’d do a ~makeup transformation~ but that’s where the webtoon loses some charm for me because I loved seeing a plain dorky loser girl who’s so self-centered, horrible, and judgmental; as well as being so brazen/pathetic trying to take advantage of the hottest guy in school who may or may not be a murderer.

Ngl earlier I peeked at later chapters to make sure this was really her and not a creepy doppelganger kek. Seeing both her dorky self and makeup self in this same cover artwork tripped me up a bit because they had different skintones, but I guess she’s putting foundation on her hands (and legs) too kek?? Kidding, but the artist keeps including that difference switching between her looks for rest of the webtoon so who knows

No. 2524256

>>2524111
Ugh I have a friend like this who's super into writing sweet romantic fanfiction but because she's not very interested in sex, she calls herself "demisexual." It's obvious she's just a normal straight woman into fandom. I don't mind except I have a crush on her fml because she's not being obnoxious about it, I usually just ignore the retarded labels when we talk about that stuff and only use normal sane person words like "lesbian" or "bi" or "straight" to describe sexuality instead of "queer" or "LGBTQAAI2XYZ." I feel like fando is this secret window into women's sexuality, but sadly you can't really talk about it in accurate terms, because 40% of the women in fandom don't want to be called women and the rest are claiming some retarded queer identity instead of calling themselves straight like they obviously are.

No. 2524280

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>>2524254
>>2524183
I loved the first chapters where she looked nerdy and forced the popular guy to follow her command. The dynamic was hot and I think it was the only situation where I would say femdom was believable and not cringeworthy.

No. 2524311

>>2524280
>She only likes him because of his looks and status
>He start" to like her because he really can't comprehend that someone would just use him
I love those two psychos

No. 2524318

Has any nonna considered themselves ace but after some point dropped the label and became straight, gay, or bi? Like to put this back to fandom, I'm starting to realize why so many women are calling themselves queer or asexual, cute men barely exist anymore, and when they do, they try to pass them off as either actually a woman or just strong appreciation for the character but then retweet risque art of their husbando/waifu.

No. 2524329

>>2524318
I was an 'ace' because I was exposed to porn at a young age and it disgusted me. even fandom shit was too disgusting and perverted for my taste and that lasted until I got a bf in university and I realized that I enjoy actually romance and sex, but only if it's truly romantic and not influenced by porn tropes.

No. 2524343

>>2524024
Yeah, I agree. 2016 felt like the end of A LOT of things, especially fandom. Troon propaganda and gendies started taking over from there. I couldnt even find really good fanfics after 2018 tbh on AO3. People were 'cancelling' you for liking fictional incest and 'problematic' BL. It was awful. I miss the Free! era so damn much.

No. 2524345

>>2524043
I used to know someone in a board games friend group who was hard into undertale. He was openly gay and it was whatever, but then he started to skinwalk my wife and trooned out 2 years later. It was around 2018 or 2019 when this officially happened. We were friends a few years before then.

>>2524054
Covid fucked everyone over. No matter what fandom you were in. I wasnt on lockdown in my area of the country, but a lot of younger adults and teens had way too much time on their hand. Combine that with tik tok brainrot, it was a recipe for the worst kind of gendie nonsense.

No. 2524908

>>2524183
How many bully arcs does this manwha have, because I straight up stop reading a lot of manhwas when I realize most were just some form of, "MC gets bullied for most of the story."

No. 2524911

>>2524908
Koreans are extremely mindbroken by school bullying they put it in all their media.

No. 2524914

>>2524908
That's what korean school life is although irl it tends to be more rapey and sadistic

No. 2524936

>>2524908
only one, lasts a few chapters but is plot relevant
>>2524914
not korean, but asian schools even segregated will have a bullying culture

No. 2525155

>>2523690
im sorry that you have to experience vash the stampede with a vagina, young anon.

No. 2525209

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Trannies on reddit are so insufferable
Why does infinity nikki need yuri? It's a dress up game
Why would lads need yaoi? It's a dating game

No. 2525212

>>2525209
>they have a rule against gay people
Not even true.

No. 2525213

>>2525209
Because trannies are males, and males are notorious for being horny dumbfucks who can't keep their libidos in check when consuming any media. They always have to sexualize damn near everything because even though they wear bad wigs, tacky clothing, buy plushies meant for small children, and play games not meant for their true gender, they are still porn-addicted grown men who can't stop thinking about women and sex.

No. 2525261

>>2524343
I thought I was the only one to notice this or that it was just my fandom. Great fics from 2018-2022 but after that is just trash

No. 2525303

>>2522016
>Raridash
>Overrated

Since when? That's a literal rarepair. Both are shipped more with the apple pony.

No. 2525304

>>2522420
Kek, this is literally the "lesbian" yumejo thread in /g/ and lo and behold, half of their "waifus" are men who they she/her or, if they're being generous, genderbend.

No. 2525306

>>2525304
that thread was literally made for genderbent husbandos nona…

No. 2525341

>>2525209
Where's the goddamn yuri? The women?

No. 2525427

>>2525304
Nta To be fair that thread was created by a bisexual because I knew her on discord kek.

No. 2525496

>>2519457
You are right and you should say it, women who consume content of ugly walled scrotes are low self esteem pickmes by default. Also i don't know why anons are clutching their pearls about you being "mean and problematic!!" on an ib.

No. 2525503

>>2521246
>>2521291
Who gives a shit if he goes through all that when he's ugly, why do you want to see ugly moid asshole? Do you read BL to ~sympathize~ with the poor scrote fee fees? KEK(infight baiting 5 day old posts)

No. 2525511

>>2525496
"ugly walled scrotes"
lolcow can be so out of touch when a ton of women are in the MGS fandom and these are muscly scarred fictional men with prime potential for tragedy and suffering
And whoever spergs about it is always into some zoomer genshin gachashit

No. 2525514

>>2525503
>Do you read BL to ~sympathize~
Anons don't understand ryonabait?
Whatever, it's an old post to seething about and that character isn't even the bottom to begin with. This shit is just sad.

No. 2525525

>>2525496
where did anybody say it was mean or problematic kek everybody just said its dumb to complain about old walled scrotes while looking at mgs fanworks, mgs' whole appeal is for people who like rugged grandpas

No. 2525536

>>2525511
>>2525525
Scarred rugged grandpas are ugly and women who like them are pickmes
>>2525525
Anons got asshurt because op said that women who like ugly old moids are women that are traumatized, abused or have low self esteem which is true

No. 2525541

>>2525525
>>2525536
Tbh it's more that anons got called problematic because they started making fun of her autism…

No. 2525568

>>2525503
NTA but I can't believe you guys are still mad about this fucking manga kek

No. 2525575

>>2525536
Not everyone is into anime pedo shit, there's nothing pick-me about adult women finding imaginary 10/10 adult men in their age group hot

No. 2525587

>>2525575
Wait it's pick me to like hot men now? Since when?

No. 2525590

>>2525575
>liking men in their 20s with heads full of hair and no wrinkles is being a pedo

No. 2525594

>>2525575
>in their age group
Are they 60 years old? That anon was talking about scarred rugged grandpas

No. 2525601

>>2525575
Men above 30 cannot be 10/10 unless they're an ageless anime twink

No. 2525610

>>2525594
I respect grannies writing fanfic

No. 2525613

>>2525503
NTA but imo she made him ugly to emphasize the horror aspect of the manga and the stockholm syndrome the other character was going through. Sada was not attracted to him at all so it made the sexual scenes actually gross, off-putting, and uncomfortable. If he had been a hot anime boy torturing another hot anime boy it wouldn't have felt the same.

No. 2525627

>>2525601
So true

No. 2525650

>>2525601
Why a twink? Why not a twunk?

No. 2525786

>>2524343
2014-2016 and then 2020 was a one-two blow for young people’s psyches and fandom by extension.

Moralfagging always existed in fandom in the earlier half of the 2010s but it was more prevalent in specific fandoms (Steven Universe, Homestuck) and those fandoms tended to be Tumblrina ground zero. Then the mid-2010s gave us the Tumblr buyout, GamerGate and the 2016 US elections, all of which changed online discourse for the worse in their own ways. The Tumblr buyout made people migrate to Twitter which made it impossible to have meaningful long form discussions. People don’t discuss GamerGate much anymore but it was a turning point for the politicization of hobbies (the “culture wars”), and the U.S. 2016 elections obliterated Americans’ ability to have nuanced political views (which unfortunately affects the rest of the world). Then the pandemic made young people socially stunted by encouraging parasocial behaviors and being terminally online.

The early 2010s were also so optimistic, relatively speaking. American politics felt a lot more hopeful (first black president, gay marriage legal) and Big Tech was new so people weren’t skeptical yet.

No. 2526439

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Gachacels and himetrannies taking the bait and going "MUH DOUBLE STANDARDS" because she reposted screencaps of nude Mydei and Gallagher mods kek. The horror of her calling out incel devs vs playing with non-official mods. Goes to show we women have to make our own manwhores before an official game panders to us.

No. 2526446

>>2525786
>GamerGate and the 2016 US elections
Slight derail but I'd say the toxic moidish behaviours in fandoms (misogyny, spamming porn everywhere, double standards in gaming like >>2526439 posted, throwing a fit when they're not pandered to) is also a form of moralfagging, in a way, because the scrotes always cry about "mean ebil feminists persecuting us" and "if you take away our goon material we will kill ourselves uguu"

No. 2526449

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>>2526439
I don't get why these idiots go to such lengths to wk female characters from gachaslop of all things. I don't play wuwa but I ocassionaly lurk on their husbando subreddit. It's absolutely hilarious. They cry about not getting catered too but at the same time they get triggered if anyone calls the wuwa women sluts because apparently fictional women made for male consumption also suffer from misogyny. Completely insane behavior.

No. 2526452

>>2523690
The Hetalia fandom (and source material, frankly) is cancer and you're not missing out on anything. I can't believe people still defend that slop when it uwu-ifies the fucking Axis powers. Go read something actually informative about WWII, like Barefoot Gen.

No. 2526455

>>2526452
>When it uwu-ifies the fucking axis powers
NTA but this is the exact reason I just can't take it seriously enough to get offended kek

No. 2526459

>>2526455
To clarify, I'm not sincerely offended by it. I just find it tiresome, overrated, and unfunny, like the mangaka clearly has a poor understanding of the history at issue. You need to have a really good understanding of something to write effective satire about it, otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of non-sequitur like Hetalia.

No. 2526500

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>>2526449
The moralfagging over the slutshaming of fictional characters for moids will never cease to be funny.

For those who aren't familiar with Genshit, Escoffier is a chef wearing nothing but a naked apron and sparkling lingerie.

No. 2526504

>>2526500
>They aren't the ones controlling their outfits, it's the devs!
It boggles my mind how they can say things like this and STILL, somehow, not understand where the female fans calling out the misogyny are coming from. Even the non-tranny handmaidens do it.

No. 2526531

>>2526439
I'm surprised wuwa doesn't get the same scrutiny hoyoshit gets. The fanservice is far more extreme and they don't even bother with diversity points.

No. 2526567

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>>2526500
>naviasukas
This individual is a real piece of work. I hate her double standards so much. She constantly harasses women who say anything even remotely critical of coombait characters, but for some reason, it is totally fine when she does it herself.

>>2526504
>Even the non-tranny handmaidens do it.
I have seen women on radtwt defending these characters. Gacha has completely poisoned the minds of young women.

No. 2526573

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>>2526531
>I'm surprised wuwa doesn't get the same scrutiny hoyoshit gets
It does but it’s nowhere near as popular as Hoyo games so you won’t see a lot of popular posts trashing it. My favorite discourse is Hoyo and Wuwa himes dunking it out among themselves over whose coombait character is more divine and totally not made for the male gaze.

No. 2526580

>>2526567
I noticed a lot of these handmaidens started parroting lc speech like "moids", all while flagging gacha coombaits as radical feminism icons. How can these women be so disconnected from IRL is incredible.

No. 2526589

>>2525155
Kek thank you
>>2526452
I've seen Barefoot Gen, great movie, but I love Hetalia more. Either way I was mostly into it in middle school when the fandom was on the verge of decline

No. 2526652

>>2525209
man i love it when media comes out and moids get salty because it doesn't advertise to them so they have to tear it down with any made up bs they can.
This is why i'll always defend fujoshis. They create the only spaces online where moids are nowhere to be seen infesting.

No. 2526658

>>2523690
I think this might just be you looking at things with rose tinted glasses. Even back then the best way to experience fandom was with a close group of 5-10 other people, and going to actual IRL events like conventions because the rest of fandom would be retarded and complain/fight about dumb stuff like ships or w/e. Only thing that changed was now you're exposed to more retards because the internet becoming easier to access to most people around the world.

No. 2526669

>>2525496
People can't handle the truth, and when confronted with these uncomfortable truths they feel threatened and go for the lowest hanging fruit. It's why these abuse victims use my autism to discredit me, when ironically enough asperchans can make incredibly astute observations about the human psyche relative to their disorder.
>>2525511
Yes and they're all pickmes. There are moids in MGS who aren't walled to high hell and pickme girls choose the ugliest ones.
>zoomer genshin gachashit
I don't play gachas at all, but getting assmad over gachas because they have female pandering characters and not moids old enough to be your dad is funny.
>>2525575
>not being attracted to spoilt milk scrotes makes you a pedo!
The expectation that women's preferences should always be age appropriate as they grow older when your daddy Solid Snake is a pedo who went after freshly 18 Meryl while he was in his 30s. Also, Raiden and Otacon are right there which I had previously used as my examples of attractive, non walled (for the most part) characters in MGS, are you implying that it's pedophilic to like such characters?

No. 2526690

>these abuse victims use my autism to discredit me, when ironically enough asperchans can make incredibly astute observations about the human psyche relative to their disorder.
You're perpetuating a whole other stereotype than the one you're thinking of when you're saying this about MGS if all things lmao
Being autistic doesn't make you a psychoanalyst savant kek

No. 2526698

>>2526690
I never said that, I just said that autistic people can make very accurate analysis’ of others behavior, in spite of their disorder. Combined with how honest the average high functioning autistic is, this combination can lead to discomfort with people who are used to having everything sugarcoated for them. But this is getting away from fandom discourse now, anyway women who like pedo snake are pickmes with daddy issues.

No. 2526700

>>2526652
>This is why i'll always defend fujoshis
nta but the reason lads has a no gay shit policy is because of fujoshis…not gay fags..which is quite common in otome circles so i have no idea why that redditard is surprised by this

No. 2526705

>>2526669
>The expectation that women's preferences should always be age appropriate as they grow older
While I don't mind that older women like the older MGS guys, I hate when they bring that "ugh I would NEVER date a younger man" attitude with husbandos.

No. 2526707

>>2526698
>Autism makes you more evolved actually, this higher mindset can cause discomfort in those who had to be sugarcoated through life (abuse victims???)
Doubling down is just making this funnier lmao

No. 2526708

>>2526705
Honestly, I don’t think I’d care if they didn’t try to justify their abnormal attractions like it’s something totally normal, all the while they shame women for liking the cuter, less traditionally masculine guys in the series. This happens with scrotes as well into it where they are genuinely baffled I don’t find solid snake hot

No. 2526710

>>2526708
Acting like a victim when you've been shitting on "abnormal attraction" as 100% being due to abuse is crazy. Like no, you've been shaming women who like older men as being sexually/physically abused, you've been perpetuating the stereotype that abuse victims as totally having daddy kinks.

No. 2526711

>>2526707
Stop putting words in my mouth. You know exactly what I meant
>>2526710
Not abuse entirely, but women into older men usually have some form of trauma. The biggest dilffags I knew either got molested, have an absent or otherwise rocky relationship with their father, or less damning, are fat (which is something I’m shocked I didn’t bring up earlier).

No. 2526716

>>2526710
The only ones perpetuating and normalizing daddy kinks are the ugly old moid loving crowd who loves psyoping normal and abuse victims that liking ogres is totally normal. Liking ugly moids is abnormal, simple as that. We say faggot and retard here, if you are so hurt because someone said something offensive about your shit taste lolcow is not the place for you.

No. 2526718

>>2526711
I know exactly what you mean, that went who don't have your taste must be wrong in head and abused in life to have that audacity, that because if anecdotes about the people you hang out with (I wouldn't expect something different) that abuse victims all want to get fucked by old men.
And then when called out you crawl back to hiding behind your autism and how "that's totally not what you meant" despite coming back 5 days later saying the same retarded shit about how "abused victims are too sugarcoated through life" to deal with being told their attractions to a 40 year old videogame where 90% of the cost is old are abnormal, all because you wanted to schlick it to porn.
It's all so fucking stupid.

No. 2526722

>>2526716
>We say faggot and retard here, if you are so hurt because someone said something offensive about your shit taste lolcow is not the place for you.
Kek says this but is still crying five days later after being told that her evolved autistic armchair psychology was retarded.

No. 2526725

>>2526722
I'm not that nona it's just retarded that this is an ib where you tell people to kill themselves and wish moids get raped to act like being told you're abuse victim is so horrible and out of line

No. 2526728

>>2526718
Yes. I am saying these people are wrong in the head and have been abused, and I will continue to make fun of them for it. I’m not saying all abuse victims wanna get fucked by old men, but that most dilffags are abuse victims. Big difference. Look, if you want pedo snake to stare at your ass then that’s fine, but don’t go shitting on me for that because I think it’s weird. Not only that, but you can like characters without being attracted to them and if you develop an attraction to a walled scrote because of that reason but especially since there are a few younger guys in MGS then you’re probably ill in the head
>>2526722
I’m not that anon but if someone is going to bring up a 5 day old argument again, then I will respond accordingly.
>>2526725
They are Twitter refugees pls andastand

No. 2526730

>>2526725
It's bot out of line, it's just plain retarded and since its an ib I am able to call it out such, especially since in the same thread people said that pointing out the autism was too mean.
If you don't want to be called retarded, there's an entire thread for people to agree with you in the UMP

No. 2526733

>>2526728
>I’m not saying all abuse victims wanna get fucked by old men
>but most dilffags are abuse victims though
Changing the word order doesn't change what it means.
>Not only that, but you can like characters without being attracted to them
You can also write fanfic without being attracted sexually to the characters.
You can like something in fiction that you don't in real life.
You can even understand that if a cast is mostly older men… the fanfic would be of mostly older men. Because they're fans.

No. 2526734

>>2526718
>that went who don't have your taste must be wrong in head and abused in life to have that audacity
Women who like ugly walled scrotes are indeed wrong in the head
>"abused victims are too sugarcoated through life" to deal with being told their attractions to a 40 year old videogame where 90% of the cost is old are abnormal
Nta but they ARE sugarcoated. Both normal and abused women get told that being attracted to young handsome physically attractive men is childish and shallow and therefor they support [insert] supremacy and one or multiple -isms. Abuse victims also get told that liking old moids old enough to be their father is toootally normal and a good way of coping.

No. 2526736

>>2526730
I agree that saying someone is autistic is too mean is retarded, but at least that nona can be honest that she is autistic kek

No. 2526738

>>2526733
I said most dilffags are abuse victims, but not all abuse victims are dilffags. What isn’t clicking? This thread sees a mildly nuanced statement and acts like a retard.
Being attracted to realistic hags might as well be the same as being attracted to rl old men. Not only that, but a character lacking in cute youthful scrotes doesn’t automatically mean the wallee are more popular. A lot of 2000s shounen was filled with ugly old men and the most popular ones were always the youthful ones (bleach, fullmetal alchemist etc). I don’t know, maybe female MGS fans are more predisposed to being pickmes with paternal issues.
>>2526736
I should clarify my issue isn’t being called an autistic retard, but the implication that calling someone an abuse victim is sooper wrong but saying ableist stuff about autistic women is totally fine. A lot of people on /ot/ are BPDemons who hate autistic women and also are hypersensitive to criticism so it isn’t really surprising.

No. 2526740

>>2526734
>Both normal and abused women get told that being attracted to young handsome physically attractive men is childish and shallow
It's porn ganfic for a videogame, I don't think what's childish and shallow matters. People make fanfic because they like the characters. You don't like the characters, you have the right not to read it. Instead, you're swinging a dick around like they are morally obligated to give you porn, that the corruption will leave their brains as soon as they give you Otacon dick.

No. 2526742

>>2526738
Maybe female MGS fans are female MGS fans.

No. 2526747

>>2526740
If you make porn fanfics of characters you aren’t attracted to then you’re probably slow in the minds, if that’s what you’re getting at. Write what you want, but I will forever shit on women who find bara beasts like solid and big boss attractive, being a woman and having the taste of a homosexual male IS degenerate.
>>2526742
Who tend to be pickmes. This thread makes it out like Im not a fan of the games, which I am and that’s why I was so disappointed. I even like solid as a character, I just have the mental clarity to realize he’s ugly as fuck.

No. 2526750

>>2526747
Did you not get btfo’d hard enough last time that you’re back for round 2 so soon? Either pick up the pen or shut up.

No. 2526752

>>2526742
Female fans who are pickmes yes
>>2526750
>>2526740
Women who like ugly scrotes are handmaidens and deserve to shamed for their tastes

No. 2526754

>>2526750
Nope. I will make fun of dilffags til death

No. 2526755

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No. 2526770

>>2526580
>all while flagging gacha coombaits as radical feminism icons. How can these women be so disconnected from IRL is incredible.
It's like doing a hit piece on the food industry while not having enough self awareness to realize they're eating mystery processed meat slop from the tap thinking that they can somehow reclaim it. It is so fucking stupid how polilezzies and the like think big boobed lesbian anime women designed by men and for men are some form of enlightened radfem "praxis". I don't know if they're desensitized to expect sexualization or if they're actually illiterate

No. 2526778

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This ugly son of a bitch is having gay sex! It's not fair… I need to find a way to blame a woman somewhere, immediately!

No. 2526787

It's starting to make sense why female fandom has gone the way it has.
There's always a moral responsibility to do shit as a woman. You can't just like something, you must be a handmaiden, an ally, some stupid shit or another.

No. 2526795

>>2526787
I can't wait for the day when women will stop holding each other to high standards and we can be as degenerate as we'd like in fandoms. Idk how it even got this way

No. 2526805

>>2526787
>>2526795
you both say this but you'd probably call a woman a handmaiden, if not an outright tranny, if she had a fetish you deemed moid pandering

No. 2526811

>>2526805
Idk there is a pretty big difference between women who just like men you don’t and women who are fucking fanny-tier with their fetishes.

No. 2526814

>>2526452
>>2526459
hetalia obviously isn’t meant to be informative or serious. the WW2 setting is just a backdrop most of the time and their other wars or historical events are just there for drama/humor or to cute-ified. The appeal of it isn’t historical accuracy the appeal is just CBDCT and country personifications in general (same reason ppl like countryhumans/balls)
>>2526750
nta but I feel like it’s one thing to like ugly dudes and another to defend them so hard

No. 2526815

>>2526795
there are spaces where women hold no standards for each other but that means, No Standards. disturbing amount of Very Young shotacon and violent rape/guro

No. 2526824

>>2526805
If too pandering for me then they're probably already calling themselves a handmaiden/bimbo/transally, etc.

No. 2526836

>>2526795
It got this way by becoming too mainstream, it won't happen unless fandom culture shrinks/becomes less popular. The world we grew up in is gone.

No. 2526837

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>"it's called FANDOM, not CANONDOM! Let people have fun when they make up whatever headcanons they waaaaant! Fandom is all about the FANS making FAN versions of the story and characters and everything!"
No. One, a lot of you don't even engage with the source material itself, leading to my second point. Two, because a lot of you don't even engage with the source material, so ARE you making up headcanons because it's your interpretation, or are you making up headcanons because you don't really understand the characters at all? You can "theorize" whatever you want about the characters, but it can expose how much or little you comprehend the media. Three, your headcanons are stupid. I'm not gonna expand much on this for now, but I don't like "fans" who mostly don't take the media seriously. If ALL you're doing is making retarded edits and memes, how are you a "nerd" about this game, book, comic, movie, or show? What would be the difference between you and a trend chaser just using "the popular thing" for views? Fuck these cocomelon zoom zooms for giving IHNMAIMS the Mouthwashing treatment because of somebody namedropping it.

No. 2526841

>>2526837
We need to make and popularize a new term for fans who actually engage with and respect the source.

No. 2526849

>>2526837
I don't get headcanons that don't have evidence to back them up, reading through the proof is what makes them fun especially when it calls for obscure info given out in interviews or guide material.

No. 2526851

>>2526814
>hetalia obviously isn’t meant to be informative or serious
I never said it was. You completely ignored the part where I said
>You need to have a good understanding of something to write effective satire about it
This lack of foundational insight is why Hetalia so often relies on lolrandom humor. Why even bother with the concept of personified countries if what you're writing is basically just male Lucky Star?

No. 2526853

>>2526849
They will never know the joy of dumpster diving through hours of author interviews for the one singular line that confirms your theories…that still belongs to us at least…

No. 2526860

>>2526849
Completely agree. "Headcanon" has gone from creating canon-compliant fills for gaps left by the source material, to just making shit up with no regard for canon (often for the purpose of a fetish or virtue-signaling).

No. 2526879

>>2526849
Somewhere along the line headcanons just became synonymous with projection and self insertion, and I'm pretty sure homestuck was patient zero for it but mha was the metastasized cancer of it. I hate headcanon culture in general because of the way it encourages shitflinging of who's is more legitimate (or delusional) but for the moment it was pretty grounded on investigation it was nice.

No. 2526944

>>2526851
yeah that’s the point

No. 2526975

>>2526805
We can dislike something while agreeing it's fine if it exists. I make fun a lot of people with weird fetishes, but it stays on my head and I simply scroll past it, that's how it should work.

No. 2527015

>>2526837
This is why I prefer being in Japanese fandoms. They are very loyal to canon and always come up with cool ways to broaden that (although some HCs are based on memes like with Touhou). I see this happening also with Western series. When they want to make something completely different, they just start creating original content.

No. 2527089

>>2526837
>Let people have fun when they make up whatever headcanons they waaaaant!
God I hate this. I can't read fics from a certain fandom because they write the characters OOC and have a meltdown if you point it out.

No. 2527122

>>2526837
Most people are lazy writers and lazy readers.

It takes some understanding to make a character do something, that would feel outlandish if it were part of the canon material, and still have it feel loyal to the canon characterization. That should be what every fan-content creator strives for.
Not turning the character into a one-dimensional trope so you can make your kinks work. No, you have to put the effort. The creator should make you feel like their dumb kink fanfic could be canon in an alternate universe.

No. 2527127

>>2526944
>It sucks on purpose therefore you can't criticize it

No. 2527276

>>2526851
That’s why the show got so popular in the first place. The characters are like dolls you can use to create stories. That’s why there’s so much fanfiction,AUs and headcanons of the show even though it’s writing is mediocre. All you need to do is understand basic history, stereotypes of countries and watch the short episodes to understand what is going on. If the show was any deeper, serious or more meaningful it would’ve never had the same level of popularity because it would’ve been too complicated for its Fanbase to understand.

No. 2527282

>>2527127
I feel like the “it’s not funny” criticism has more merit than “historical inaccuracy”

No. 2527315

>>2527276
Ngl it is true that one of the reasons why hetalia is "good" is because compared to country humans and other of the same type its just plain prettier.

No. 2527317

>>2526452
I hope you have the same energy for moidslop WWII trash like Azur Lane, Girls und Panzers and Kantai Collection then
Women can't have fucking anything, I swear

No. 2527343

>>2526837
Harlan Ellison must be spinning in his grave.

No. 2527348

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>>2526837
>AM's master

No. 2527353

>>2526452
>it uwu-ifies the fucking Axis powers
Fangirls don't read Hetalia for the uwu-ified axis powers, they read it so they get a better understanding of seme/uke dynamics for their country and another country they like. USUK or UKUS? Choose nao.

No. 2527362

>>2527353
>USUK or UKUS
Disgusting, US is exclusively for Canada.

No. 2527365

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>>2525575
KEK this post being about MGS is fucking hilarious because MGS literally has anime pedo shit.

No. 2527366

>>2527089
Same, for some reason a fandom I’m in decided one of the characters is ftm. Now every fic about him he’s a tif. And since he’s the (male) authors self insert, some people started headcanoning the author as trans just to justify it.

No. 2527367

>>2526452
Are you a shotafag? why would you choose barefoot gen instead of the hot bishies from hetalia.

No. 2527368

>>2527362
Now this is the REAL fandom discourse. PruCan was always the superior Canada ship for me because they're two forgotten souls. It's romantic. Meanwhile America deserves only someone who can handle his crazy.

No. 2527372

>>2527368
>PruCan
Oh my goodness, so many memories just came flooding back kek. I really liked nyotalia USUK though because I had a crush on fem!America

No. 2527374

>>2527365
Mfw I got jumpscared because I thought moids modded infinity nikki

No. 2527375

>>2527365
You don't understand anon, it's fine for moids to like underage girls but if a woman likes an adult men that don't have facial hair it makes them a pedophile!
>>2527353
>>2527362
>>2527368
Kek when I was in middle school I'd bully USUK shippers and claim it's because it's incest when in reality I didn't care, I was just hardcore FrUk. LietPol has my heart nowadays though. Or RusLietPol KEK

No. 2527376

>>2527353
Had to Google what they called it because I forgot but peak was RusAme

No. 2527392

File: 1747530684969.png (2.98 MB, 1159x1970, no fun allowed.png)

That anon moralfagging about Hetalia gave me a nam flashback to when kaneoya sachiko was cancelled for her military themed art. Women are never allowed to have fun and enjoy military themes without it being some sooper serious sob drama. We are not allowed to enjoy uniforms, combat tactics, guns, warships, airships, tanks, etc like men are. Women are supposed to atone for the sins of men from the past, while men, the ones who perpetuate war and beneffit from it, are allowed to turn war into their hobby. Imagine self flaggelating yourself by watching propaganda like barefoot gen when i could be drawing my animufied husbando versions of warships while i watch a cozy documentary about the terribly designed WWII aircrafts.

No. 2527440

>>2527366
> some people started headcanoning the author as trans just to justify it.
Jesus christ wtf…I don’t think I could resist publicly shitting on fans if that happened to me…what series is this?

No. 2527446

>>2527392
these are the same tards who probably now love ghost/soap

No. 2527453

>>2527392
Wasnt she cancelled for romanticizing the nazis though?

No. 2527462

File: 1747535415205.png (131.52 KB, 300x417, tumblr_50662ed40f2a7a585b1ffc2…)

>>2527453
''romanticizing'' aka drawing nazi sluts okay

No. 2527467

>>2527462
BASADO

No. 2527470

File: 1747535819351.jpg (77.46 KB, 770x760, 267ae738265c909d92607d4aec30b8…)

>>2527467
i wish she had never become popular with annoying western gendies her art became shit after it became popular with them

No. 2527507

>>2526449
>I don't get why these idiots go to such lengths to wk female characters from gachaslop of all things
Because they themselves aspire to pander to the male gaze and see their future costhot selves in these gachashit waifus, so when you call these goonbaits out for what they are, they take offense.

No. 2527526

File: 1747539790614.jpg (136.27 KB, 654x933, thewolf.jpg)

>>2527392
>Women are never allowed to have fun and enjoy military themes without it being some sooper serious sob drama
Man tell me about it. Nobody to chat about WW2 theatres of war with. And especially never, EVER design a German soldier, no matter what his backstory is ('cause as we all know, every single German was a pureblooded Nazi who knew every line of Mein Kampf by heart).
>terribly designed WWII aircrafts
You take that back, ball-turret cockpits were so cool-looking (and provided no protection kek)

No. 2527527

>>2525786
>early 2010s were also so optimistic
All a psyop, to be honest. We also had the 2008 housing bubble collapse. Nothing about it was optimistic.
>first black president
And he turned out to be fucking awful.

No. 2527553

File: 1747542885218.jpg (252.49 KB, 1079x1538, 1000036039.jpg)

>>2526738
Maybe you need a venn diagram to make your point, nonnie

No. 2527562

>>2527553
Nta but i just think dilfags have shit taste and are into power dynamics. The appeal isnt the wrinkles but rather the huge age gap and the moid having power over the woman due to his age. Its why milfag moids are into older woman and shotas, its also about the power dynamic.

No. 2527564

>>2527553
I read this as DDLGfag

No. 2527565

File: 1747543597438.jpeg (20.94 KB, 198x255, IMG_3393.jpeg)

>>2527462
Sluts! Sluts!Sluts! Sluts!

No. 2527566

File: 1747543609796.jpg (65.44 KB, 1280x720, 1000017073.jpg)

Not only he groomed countless children to become soldiers, not only he turned Zanzibar Island into Outer Heavens so that mercenaries could live a life of eternal conflict, he also is a walled scrote who turned all nonnies who husbando him into pickme abuse victims with a daddydom fetish. Truly, is there someone worse than Big Boss out there??

No. 2527570

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>>2527566
You forgot he gropes paz because he's meant to be the ugly power fantasy for scrotes. Raiden best boy with best ass.

No. 2527571


No. 2527574

>>2527572
Nobody liked snake until old man yaoi poisoned young women's minds. Its like how absolutely no one gave a shit about dad bods before women were collectively psyoped into "liking it"

No. 2527576

>>2527462
>>2527470
It's still offensive and not something to be taken lightly. drawing fanart doesn't change the mass murders and genocides.

No. 2527578

File: 1747544774859.jpeg (13.02 KB, 236x227, 4b871b607ccbe7d9f14a8e656deb2a…)

>>2527440
ayrt, it’s a webcomic called ranfren. (don’t judge me I know it sucks, I just found it back in highschool and now I’m attached….) Surprisingly there’s a big Japanese fandom though, they’re a lot better

No. 2527580

>>2527576
>drawing fanart doesn't change the mass murders and genocides.
Then whats the problem? There are trillions of mainstream war games/movies/manga/anime for moids and you have a problem with something only women will consume, that hurts no one and turns nazi moids into whores. As always women have to be the ones to pay for moids mistakes.

No. 2527581

>>2527578
your telling me the creator of ranfren isn't a tif?

No. 2527583

>>2527581
I don’t think so, unless I missed something. Considering the people calling him trans can’t decide if he’s a tif or a tim, I’d guess no

No. 2527584

>>2527574
Solid Snake was always a guy thing anyway, if a woman likes it and doesn't want to be told she's being an abuse victim psy op, she can do the thing most fanfic writers do nowadays.

No. 2527586

>>2527583
nta if the author was a tim it would be about yuri catgirls breasting boobily or some shit, it's obviously a woman lol

No. 2527591

>>2527586
Yeah you’re right (like I said it sucks, only like it for nostalgia), but I don’t wanna say 100% the authors trans unless there’s actual proof of it. Kinda feel like it makes terf/gc points less valid if you call someone trans only for them to be cis. Just gives them another gotcha yk? But this isn’t the gender ideology hate thread so I should probably shut up before I get banned for going off topic

No. 2527597

File: 1747546485811.png (466.09 KB, 728x860, rekk41gkymxe1.png)

>>2527580
can I ask what you think of this? these two are characters from an edgy analog horror series where they are serial killers who rape, torture and murder women and children and picrel is a cutesy fan art of them. If you don't have a problem with cute fanart or smut involving Nazis, then you should be fine with this.

No. 2527598

>>2527597
KEK who the fuck would have a problem with something this childish and cringe.

No. 2527602

>>2526837
based. the harry potter fandom in particular had become unlivable because of all the retards who somehow obsess over it while rejecting canon

No. 2527603

>>2527597
Are you underage? If you’re gonna be one of those moralfag zoomers you need to go back kek No one cares about somere tarded analog series, especially since it’s fictional.

No. 2527604

>>2527598
because they are child rapists
>>2527603
I'm 27

No. 2527606

>>2527604
>they are child rapists
they arent real, anon. That being said i hate western yanderefags so much for cooming to ugly yandere moids. Not a single western yandere is appealing.

No. 2527607

File: 1747547665845.webp (256.57 KB, 640x979, IMG_5949.webp)

>>2527606
>Not a single western yandere is appealing

Real, what’s with western series and making the love interests unattractive? Is it just lack of skill or intentional? picrel

No. 2527608

>>2527598
Nta but here, it wouldn't be surprising to see some furious post about it.

No. 2527609

>>2527607
Lack of skill + most western online artists being psyoped into thinking drawing attractive men is bad and boring somehow. Brainrot.

No. 2527622

>>2527606
>>2527607
I've only come across one or two that were appealing to me, which is still pretty sad considering the overabundance of fat and/or ugly yandere moids.

No. 2527639

File: 1747551247732.jpg (1.5 MB, 1920x1080, 1000036051.jpg)

>>2527622
Ricelovecoffee's boys look cute to me, but iirc she isn't really western, her writing has ESL vibes

No. 2527640

>>2527639
what the fuck are those pecs why are they massive but flat

No. 2527653

>>2527607
>>2527622
I wonder what kind of life some of you are living. If you check the yandere tag on itch.io you'll have to scroll forever to find one about an ugly old man

No. 2527666

>>2527653
I just said fat/ugly, not old.

No. 2527671

File: 1747556708108.png (2.03 MB, 1741x1010, wY30HA.png)

>>2527653
The very first result looks like this

No. 2527749

File: 1747567157520.jpg (93.49 KB, 500x313, OfficerLudwig.jpg)

>>2527526
It's sad, really. Moids can have waifu Hitler, make porn of fictitious female SS officers, draw the USS Arizona with huge balloon boobs in tiny bikinis all while making the ship ask to have sex with their self-insert, but the moment a woman likes Hetalia or draw hot soldiers the moralfagging starts kek.
Who cares if a random teenage girl likes the uniform of the Royal Navy in WW2? Or wants to draw a WW2 Japanese aircraft carrier as a hot animu guy in uniform? Or even find SS uniforms sexy (tbh, they were designed to make average moids looks hot), suddenly everything is problematic and should be called out and the author or artist must be cancelled.
I don't see any of this activism when it comes to disgusting TNO memes glorifying Speer or any other nazis and the sheer male autism of Kaiserboos, but God forbid if you ship Klaus Jager x Ivushkin

No. 2527776

>>2527562
no it's not lol, t. dilfag who's into (fictional) older men being dommed

No. 2527779

>>2527749
What about ginjikas of modern tanks, planes, and ships?

No. 2527794

File: 1747573643267.jpg (164.14 KB, 850x472, kyute.jpg)

>>2527566
>>2527570
Female Snakefags are NLOGs who shame you over not being into grandpas, and male Snakefags are ugly whiny retards who seethe over attractive male characters. Otacon best boy.
>>2527576
This happened nearly 100 years ago and you retards still seethe over the act of women merely fetishizing nazi uniforms while in the same vein making fun of Koreans and Chinese people who get assblasted over the Rising Sun flag. I hate you moralfags who are perfectly fine with joking and sexualization of other sensitive topics but MUH HOLOCAUST SACRED WORST THING IN HISTORY DURRRR because you've been brainwashed by Zios. Also another prime example of moral policing only being inflicted on women because I don't see you seething over stuff like Strike Witches or Azur Lane.
>inb4 illiterate oaf comes in thinking i'm a /pol/tard justifying the holocaust(/pol/tard)

No. 2527816

>>2527604
>27
You are too old to be acting this retarded

No. 2527843

>>2527794
God, are you that retarded Otaconfag who talked shit about Meryl in /m/? Please get a life. How can you hate women so much and browse lolcow, the place that is woman-dominant?

No. 2527844

>>2525650
Stop using fagspeak. The word you're looking for is bishounen.

No. 2527857

File: 1747580084971.webp (192.13 KB, 1946x1946, MaoJinshi_Closeup.webp)

has anyone else noticed a trend of straight ships being called "yaoi"…this and edward/becca from twilight is what i've seen so far. gendies need to be lined against a wall.

No. 2527861

>>2527857
someone on /m/ posted a meme about reddit sexuality and how moids want to express their desires to wokies in a progressive way. maybe this is the female version of that?

No. 2527876

>>2527353
UKUS always
>>2527581
wasn’t it only that she said she didn’t care when asked about her pronouns and people assumed TIF?

No. 2527880

>>2527879
it's not just the holocaust, you shouldn't take any group of murderers lightly, it's offensive

No. 2527883

>>2527857
Tbh part of me think its just a cope due to nothing trending in fujobait has gotten much western fujo attention (Nintama is too Japanese, Gundam is too mecha, Windbreaker is too… irrelevant ig) and Jinshi reminds them of danmei despite Maomao looking at Jinshi the same way the Chinese government looks at homosexuals.

No. 2527893

>>2527885
we have a military fetish thread and people post SS guys. There's no need to infight

No. 2527900

File: 1747582727396.jpg (122.21 KB, 1284x1114, GqrWNXUXYAAfPws.jpg)

>>2527857
I do not get why everyone is so insufferable about straight ships. I am a fujo and there are not many straight ships I care about, but I hate this specific flavor of twitter gendies who act like the straight ships they like are somehow superior and queer-coded, while everyone else's are bland or invalid. Why treat shipping like some kind of Olympics competition.

No. 2527904

>>2527883
>>2527857
basically they’re het fans but they want to be included in the yaoi jokes

No. 2527915

File: 1747583852785.jpg (28.18 KB, 736x822, 842a38c101d411ffc0a3aecacb9dfe…)

>>2527366
The Ranfren author is female. One of the most aggressively non-passing FtMs, even, and she's part of female-dominated fandoms like Dangan Ronpa. This feels like when someone was trying to say Lacryboy was a true and honest man.

No. 2527917

>>2527566
I can't believe Big Boss is so based…

No. 2527919

File: 1747583974892.png (595.85 KB, 700x876, FMprKJPVIAQIm-T.png)

>>2527915
Samefag, she wasn't just part of the fandom. She was drawing edgy titchop art of Kokichi.

No. 2527929

>>2527919
I don't see any tit chop scars here
>>2527915
Where did people found this image from?

No. 2527934

>>2527929
Enlarge the image nonna

No. 2527936

>>2527934
I did and still don't see them. That orange spot is just a shadow

No. 2527940

File: 1747585465768.jpg (12.68 KB, 480x360, 1000017114.jpg)

>>2527574
>Nobody liked snake until old man yaoi poisoned young women's minds
This is just plain wrong, Solid and Liquid always had fangirls, especially their MGS 1 selves. I also don't get how Otacon gets singled out as a pretty boy when he looks like an unshaved, unkempt nerd a lot of times.

No. 2527941

File: 1747585550818.png (965.15 KB, 1200x1200, screenshot_1-2_fzH2fr1.png)

Not that there is a single person in current year that cares about Overwatch lore, but I always wondered why they went for making Soldier 76 gay instead of McCree or Hanzo. McHanzo shippers were already a thing of the past back then too, but Blizzard probably couldve used it as cheap nostalgia bait for the Overwatch fandom days

No. 2527943

Speaking of Captain Howdie, I am not the only one who thinks that she's lying about losing access to tumblr just to safely abandon her obnoxious gendie fanbase? She's mostly interacting with Japanese fans on twitter for now

No. 2527944

File: 1747585725893.jpg (Spoiler Image,95.62 KB, 600x600, DwVsnSRVsAAU4Rx.jpg)

>>2527936
Okay, kek. The photos were originally selfposts from her Tumblr from what I can find, by the way.

No. 2527948

>>2527940
Ntaryt but I don't think she implied he was a prettyboy and I have never once heard him be referred to as that, he was just comparatively less walled than other MGS scrotes. The designated prettyboy has and always has been Raiden, Liquid is close up there as well though.

No. 2527950

>>2527944
I wonder why TIFs are so obsessed with MOTHER. Are they vicariously living boyhood through its protagonists? Do they just have shotafag tendencies? I remember actually seeing TIFs for the first time in the early 2000s in that fandom, before any other. It was like 2006~2008.

No. 2527952

>>2527950
They always fetishize the idea of being a child because “muh childhood I never had”

No. 2527959

>>2527950
is she even an actual tif or just a woman who acts ambiguous online? you guys are being schizo here honestly. theres also literally no titchop in the kokichi pic either. she clearly isnt gender-obsessed at all

No. 2527964

File: 1747587614546.png (64.42 KB, 181x203, 26725473284768.png)

>>2527959
Unless kokichi became a fishperson with abdomen gills there's no reason for the lines to go so far.

No. 2527965

File: 1747587617859.jpg (138.81 KB, 1183x607, ranfren neocities.jpg)

>>2527959
I'm lazy to find that tumblr screenshot but on "what gender are you" question she said "I'm feeling dysphoric from even having a human body" or something like that. She has troon stamp on her neocities front page. Tbh, Claudia is one of the rare tifs that I respect because she's not very vocal about her gender

No. 2527968

>>2527959
She's so obviously a girl and she's posted about gendie shit before. It's okay if something you like was made by an FtM, anon. It's not the end of the world, mentally ill people can also create good art.

No. 2527972

>>2527964
Nta but the arm and nipple have the same color of orange too. The orange lines beneath his chest can also be meant to be the rib cage. From this picture alone, it can be pretty ambigious.

No. 2528042

>>2521283
if you ever read Umineko, Maria is never sexualized and every character except the culprit treats her like a retard because she's obviously autistic, the annoying kind. she's obsessed with witches and magic, speaks like a sped until it's about her special interest. it's a accurate description of an autistic girl

No. 2528083

File: 1747596123561.webp (115.06 KB, 1080x1188, xjfojijdpix41.webp)

>>2527779
>modern
jet planes are cringe and gay

No. 2528087

>>2527941
Mccree was named after a rapist that worked on blizzard, its why they changed his name to cassidy.

No. 2528101

>>2528087
Yea but he's still a character that's in the game. Plus there's always Hanzo(for now at least). OW will never have the fanbase it did in 2016, but if they had pandered to a once popular ship instead it mightve actually gotten some people to care kek

No. 2528106

File: 1747597475062.jpg (Spoiler Image,215.44 KB, 850x1239, sample_30049f501865ed909a394f2…)

>>2528042
No, its an accurate despiction of a kawiwi waifu loli trope thats dime a dozen in vns and anime. I dont know why you are pretending she isnt intended to be a loli type character when the lolis from umineko and higurashi are constantly sexualized in merchandise, because the author knows what audience he made the characters for. I dont know why westerners are incapable of understanding 3deep5u writing and loli otaku tropes are not mutually exclusive and that VNs are made for an otaku male crowd. She's not autistic because japanese people, let alone otaku men in the 00s, dont give a shit about muh representation. Thats a western only brainrot. But most of you cannot cope with liking problematic things, so instead of accepting you like something made for otakus you have to make mental gymnastics to justify why characters made with the intention of being attractive to its target audience was actually made for the pure, non degenerate intention of providing representation for minorities. She literally has a fucking dakimakura yet ironic weebs will claim shes not meant to be a waifu character.

No. 2528126

>>2528106
Being lolicon bait doesn't make her not a huge fucking sperg. That's the point and it's part of her moe appeal.

No. 2528128

>>2528126
Her being a moe trope doesnt make her autistic. You can project onto her but the intentions of the author differ from your interpretation of it. You are no different from people like this >>2526837

No. 2528131

>>2528106
>>2528128
Most anime characters are autistic intentionally or not, let's be real. You sound like a degenerate bifag

No. 2528133

>>2528106
Nta but Maria was both lolibait but also genuinely autistic. As in, she acted like an actual autist and not in a moe loli way like the higurashi lolis.

No. 2528135

>>2528131
>Most anime characters are autistic intentionally or not
Any character can be autistic or gay or a lesbian or trans or adhd or any other retarded diagnosis if you squint your eyes and lie to yourself. You are no different from trannies that think gnc characters are trannies just because they apply their own beliefs onto someone elses work and project their insecurities onto cartoons.
>You sound like a degenerate bifag
what

No. 2528136

>>2528133
And beatrice is twans woman representation and not a eunuch. Or what, do you have a problem with that westernized interpretation? some of you are no different than tifs and tims in how you read media.

No. 2528138

>>2528135
Autism can be used as a descriptor rather than a legitimate psychological diagnosis, if a character displays traits common with autistic people I will call them autistic. You sound a lot like the autists you criticize so much. We get it, your loli waifu can NEVER be a dirty autist, go jizz on your daki now coomer-chan.

No. 2528140

>>2528136
Beatrice is a separate entity and a woman.

No. 2528141

File: 1747599683547.png (240.89 KB, 584x328, vlcsnap-15754.png)

>>2528136
Beatrice wasn't real and Maria was an autistic sperg. Nothing to do with "muh rep", it's calling it what it is.

No. 2528142

>>2528138
Why are you angry at me for pointing out this character is sexualized when anon claimed she totes wasnt? go sperg at ryukishi for being an otaku loli coomer. You sound like a massive sperg that cannot cope with liking something made for moids and not westerners.

No. 2528144

>>2527950
Same reason why so many TIFs are obsessed with South Park

No. 2528145

>>2528141
No, you are just retarded. Sorry but not everyone wants to cocksuck ryukishi's ballsack. Maria is a loli, not some super deep sperg representation. She acts like that because its meant to be kawiwi. Thats it.

No. 2528147

>>2528142
I haven’t even played umineko, but from the sounds of it she was referring to in-game sexualization. Anyway, just because you’re a female otaku doesn’t make you any less degenerate. Get well soon bifag

No. 2528148

>>2528145
No one is claiming she's ~*representation*~.

No. 2528149

>>2528145
>"deep sperg representation"
Arent you the the one crying about it? Everyone just sees the autist being an autist and calling them an autist.
What's next, the games can't possibly have that shitty social services arc about child abuse and Rosa isnt a bad mom because "muh anime games can't be rep"?

No. 2528150

>>2528147
>bifag
what? so now pointing out sexualization of a character means you are bisexual. Or are you just angry i pointed out the degeneracy of ryukishi. Again, go sperg about him. I have no idea how pointing out umineko is made for degen male otakus means i am bisexual.

No. 2528152

>>2528145
ah, the quintessential lolcow post. inability to recognize nuance and spergy anger over opposing viewpoints. classic, classic

No. 2528154

>>2528149
Again, you are only seeing what you want to see. Aka ignoring the source material and the real intention because you cannot cope with maria being pedololi bait and not some sperg. She acts like that because its meant to be cute and childish not because shes autistic.

No. 2528155

>>2528152
You are the one claiming lolibait is ackshually autistic representation. Next Yui is also going to be autistic, and all moe anime girls are actually autistic actually and not moebait for men.

No. 2528156

>>2523207
it's a case of them realizing they can have their cake and eat it too. they can have the male body they lust after with the pussy to make self-insertion/relating to the bottom's arousal way easier.

No. 2528158

>>2528154
You've been completely disregarding the source material as coomerlolibait hentai, its just plain silly to go at "um, you're clearly disregarding the source material" now.
Maria is a sperg, you can disregard the game as liloshit if you want but she's still a sperg lol.

No. 2528160

>>2528150
No, I’m just saying you sound like the degenerate otaku you criticize so heavily

No. 2528171

>>2527857
I haven't encountered that in specific, but for the straight ships I enjoy I see lots of "It's not het, they're yuri to me" (and as someone who only enjoys f/f and some f/m, it pisses me off a lot). I suppose it's a byproduct of how being straight isn't cool, or even seen as evil, in fandom spaces so people who enjoy an straight ship try to justify or make it LGBTspicy in some way, often going "Tehehe, they're gay/trans/bi actually, not het, 100% canon"

>>2527950
Quirky cult games with a big female fanbase. I don't think it's a Mother-specific issue, lots of games (like Ace Attorney for example) are full of Tifs due to how many women the game aattracts.
I remember Mother was the first fanbase I was in when we first got internet connections, during 2005-2013… How time flies, luckily I never saw trans people during my time there, but almost every girl/woman I talked with was a shotacon, I never saw such a high concentration of them on any other fandom kek.

No. 2528177

>>2528171
>but almost every girl/woman I talked with was a shotacon
Kekkk I'm guilty of this. Though I was around 13 so I didn't think much of it.

No. 2528185

>>2528177
Lol, there, there… We all mame mistakes. Though I wonder if that would classify as shotacon since the kids on the game are 12-13 iirc technically you were into characters your age.

No. 2528198

>>2528083
Sorry I'm not this autistic over old vintage slop but you do you nonna.

No. 2528200

>>2528106
holy fuck you BPDemons in this thread are insane, yeah she's clearly a lolibait but also clearly autistic, it's a VN full of mentally ill characters, troons included, and Maria's mental illness does not make her directly hostile or homicidal like the others. i've read Higurashi too and she acts different from the little kids and lolibaits there, why it makes you seethe so much that a character was written to be definitely autistic? you can even compare her with her mother, a BPDemon like you, or Ange, a depressed woman and she's still acting different, like an autistic girl.(infight bait)

No. 2528207

>>2528200
also her special interest being a plot device for whatever culprit takes advantage of her sperg ways is literally a key part of the VN's story

No. 2528229

>>2528200
>>2528207
Excuse my tumblrspeak but I swear some people in this thread are just incapable of understanding nuance. A character can be designed to have autism while also being lolibait. It’s not like Japanese people don’t know what autism is, nor has Ryukishi sighed away from exploring mental illnesses and disorders in his works
https://vndb.org/i2184?f=&m=2&p=1&s=2
Hell, there’s even a list of autistic characters on Vndb. It’s true that it’s more common in western stuff as shown through the tags, but there are autistic characters in popular vns like Rewrite, Nukitashi, Swan Song, etc. Of course you have to consider the margin of error for localization bs though.

No. 2528238

>>2528160
So now pointing out sexualization equals to being a degenerate otaku? what

No. 2528240

>>2528229
Most people in this thread are just "I support the opposite of the current thing" type contrarians. They see a couple of people who might be gendies on xitter or tumblr call a character autistic/not straight/whatever tf else and automatically deny it even if it clearly has canon backing.

No. 2528242

>>2528200
>BPDemon
top kek all of you will throw buzzword and defletct before you accept ryukishi's writing isnt all that good and that maria isnt meant to be autistic but kawiwi childish lolibait

No. 2528249

>>2528242
if the shoe fits…of all buzzwords i used that's what triggered you the most? ryukishi was a social worker, for better or worse, and the bond of Maria and Rosa is an accurate portrayal of an abusive mother and daughter relationship. Rika is kawiwi lolibait too, but she isn't bullied all the time by her peers for being a sperg nor has an special interest. there isn't sperglets now in Japan? everything has to be lolibait these days…retard

No. 2528262

>>2528249
You just don't understand nonnie, nipponese are pure and not tarnished by western degeneracy, they don't have autist(fake DEI shit).

No. 2528374

>>2528249
No one is saying there arent autists in japan. But Maria's archetype isnt unique or special and its something that you see repeated in pretty much every moe cgdct anime. Does that mean all cgdct shows have autist representation now? or that maria is just a common trope in otaku culture?

No. 2528382

>>2528374
I haven't seen many as obviously in in your face with the "uuu uuuuuuu my rose!! I act like an autist but now I'm gonna go full autist about the occult!!!" like Maria. Who are you thinking of?

No. 2528384

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>acts like an autistic moeblob
>is actually autistic
Sasuga Nankidai
>>2528374
To be fair it’s more noticeable with Maria because her mom regularly screams at her and beats her for her tism traits and she’s mentioned to have no friends at school because of that, compare that to Rika’s nipah and the like which are more just treated as cutesy catchphrases as opposed to directly causing the character to be physically abused.

No. 2528388

>>2528374
it isn't, Maria's role is to act like an autist and be lured into confusing everybody, her acting kawaii is just a side perk. like come on, you can even argue her kind of autism is against japanese societal rules, she isn't kind and quiet like Rika, but rather spergy, extroverted and needy. a character doesn't have to be explictly stated as mentally ill for them to be, there's multiple scenes where Maria is implied to be different from her peers and not because she wants to.

No. 2528396

File: 1747615777336.jpg (605.76 KB, 1072x2544, campa.jpg)

>himejoshi promotes new yuri manga
>artist draws ryona and rape hentai on a side account
>himejoshi tries to backpedal and calls for people to avoid and report the account
I think the original poster was dumb as fuck (the artist already posts ryona on his main account @Dormicumproject, the same account he uses to promote his series). But it's frustrating seeing people jump in and go on about respecting "freedom of expression" and rejecting "puritanical values" in context to violent porn for men. The last tweet is comical.

No. 2528400

>>2528396
>genuinely kill all fujoshi
Ow the edge

No. 2528403

>>2528396
The they/themification of abusive moids to make them sound harmless is hilariously blackpilling.

No. 2528432

>>2528396
>check qrts
>xe/xim gendie fujos are defending the moid
Mass reporting is retarded but it is genuinely weird to see so many fujos capping for a moid who draws the most depraved porn for scrotes. Can't believe I am on the side of the himes for once.

No. 2528434

>>2528396
>proshippers and shotacons defending a coomer moid
Birds of a feather flock together. There is no saving those women.

No. 2528436

File: 1747619826517.jpg (167.69 KB, 634x846, 1000017158.jpg)

>>2528396
I went to check this artist's work and it looks like edgy emo guro art drawn by a woman with body image problems and daddy issues. The girls look anorexic and many have signs of self harm on them.
The artist also owns expensive ball jointed dolls and their taste in photos just screams woman to me. I don't think this one's a moid, as much as the subject matter is disgustang.

No. 2528445

>>2528436
Ngl this does seem like 00s style shoujo edge, if it came out 20 years earlier I could see this type of art posted here as an example about how manga used to try.
After checking the Twitter, yeah it gives more of a ultra edgetard woman with some major sexual baggage vibe rather than a guy.

No. 2528448

File: 1747621047250.jpg (269.13 KB, 684x868, 1000017161.jpg)

>>2528436
Samefag but if a moid drew this the man would be ugly. Idk if this artist is a moid he is very good at imitating this sort of feminine gore/ryona, which is what is making me doubt this is a moid at all.
Even the yuri manga about fashion looks extremely feminine and it looks like it still has themes of self harm and anorexia and all her "sexual" art has barely any details on genitals and actual sexual acts.

No. 2528461

File: 1747621816572.jpg (Spoiler Image,158.36 KB, 774x1006, 80998778_p7_log.jpg)

>>2528436
We need to find a way to un-trigger her military/tactical snuff porn phase and have her go back to drawing edgy boys (forgot to spoiler)

No. 2528463

File: 1747621894935.jpg (134.71 KB, 721x1024, 1000017163.jpg)

They also draw yandere pretty boys.
I am thinking this artist is a woman, moids of this kind never draw bishies, only ugly men.

No. 2528466

So himes cancelled another woman for not conforming to their standards and will cry tomorrow about the lack of interest in yuri? Color me surprised.

No. 2528469

>>2528466
>standards
And those standards being not wanting to see her rape and gore art of women, which only appeals to men and other deranged women like her. Art like that of women being embraced will only set us back.

No. 2528478

>>2528466
I don't really have a problem with bl and yuri having different standards, but its annoying when they disregard this when discussing how it sucks when women choose to be interested in something that doesn't have that moral responsibility.

No. 2528481

>>2528469
You don’t have to look at her shitty vent art, but don’t come crying about the lack of yuri if you’re willing to throw out her fashion model yuri with it.

No. 2528482

>>2528396
>respecting "freedom of expression" and rejecting "puritanical values"
Why do they always parrot what moids say? Especially when moids are quick to shit on just about anything women like while moralfagging themselves?

No. 2528487

>>2528463
all i’ll say is that going from this to faceless gangrape snuff is exceedingly buckbroken

No. 2528493

>>2528487
Yeah I agree. I'm not into her art either way, however I hope that one day she decides to draw tortured moids instead so her fanbase of ddlg coquettes and guro military moids implode.

No. 2528501

>>2528466
TBF a lot of himejos on xitter are traumatised girls and young women who don't want to see harm of females because they've already been there and got the t-shirt and don't want to be reminded of what they've been through. I assume they want yuri porn with plot and not edgy guroshit.

No. 2528505

>>2528469
Agreed, I wish her healing but I'm not interested in supporting her pornbrained pickme mental illness.

No. 2528517

>>2528463
The artist drew one mediocre male so it must be a woman. There are many Japanese men who make content about women getting raped but "artistic". Kikuo is right there. The average shounen male mangaka draws better men than this. His previous works have bug eyed uguu lolis with ugly middle aged 3DPDesque men that look like they belong to 2 completely different genres. His side account is filled with amputee loli porn and lolis with womb tattoos. He also pulled for Cantarella from Wuwa. Can I use this to support that the artist is a male?

No. 2528528

File: 1747627817568.jpg (276 KB, 1290x1944, GlIVExEXgAAMIkr.jpg)

>>2527857
>>2528171
I've seen exactly what you are talking about and they always do that with the young conventionally attractive couple, I think it's because they resent that attractive people aren't interested in them, so this is their way of getting revenge on them, because being trans is a sign of a pathetic loser.

No. 2528531

>>2528528
You can just smell these people don't interact with actual gay/bi people.

No. 2528532

>>2528531
they probably also smell

No. 2528535

>>2528528
Kek, this is the literal definition of cultural appropriation–taking aspects of another "culture" (in this case, lesbians) to make something that's already uncontroversial and expected to make it more "interesting" inevitably stealing genuine representation for the former.

No. 2528536

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No. 2528546

File: 1747629365426.jpg (436.07 KB, 2048x2003, Gq5bf2wWAAA3JgM.jpg)

>>2528528
>the male character i like is um ackshually a woman
I used to think this was just another form of lame twitter humor, but it is honestly wild how many gendie women genuinely insist that their favorite male characters are women. What is even the point of that? I do not even care about JJK, but there are so many fandom accounts whose entire shtick is claiming Geto is a woman.
https://x.com/yujiglow

No. 2528549

File: 1747629945398.jpg (Spoiler Image,1.4 MB, 1441x4728, 1000073308.jpg)

>>2528396
Yeah this is just a drugged up schizomoid militaryfag kek. He released a loli guro manga in 2022. It's a moid.
>https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/53003675 (r18G content)
>https://bsky.app/profile/dormicumproject.bsky.social (r18G content)

Also I checked out the "yuri" and it seems it's only being marketed as a GL but reads more like the author's misogynistic depression diary with a female self insert. The girls don't actually interact, it's just character-A being jealous over character-B and character-A self harms a lot.

RIP yurifags you girls get nothing once again.

No. 2528554

>>2528517
Its all just conjecture until someone has genuine evidence as proof. Personally, I do think its a chick though.

No. 2528560

>>2528554

nta you think this >>2528549 is a female??

No. 2528571

>>2528549
I was inclined to think that the artist was a girl since her boy illustrations (like >>2528461 and >>2528463) and some of her ryona stuff was in line with other edgy female artists I've seen, but the military + snuff fetish feels very male. I wonder what caused such an intense pivot? (assuming the artist isn't just a degenerate male becoming more degenerate)

No. 2528572

>>2528560
There's lots of female ero-mangaka who draw degenerate shit so it could go either way tbh but given the older works I'm also leaning towards female

No. 2528573

>>2528572
There are female mangaka that draw military loliguro snuff? Maybe we should nuke Japan after all.

No. 2528579

>>2528572
I'm wondering if the older works were commissions before he(?) could break out and do what he wanted to do (eroguro).

No. 2528582

>>2528579
Perhaps, maybe, possibly

No. 2528586

>>2528560
This site already has cases of deranged schizo women that abuse drugs and have a weird autopedophilia thing going on. Is another one that happens to draw manga really that out there?

No. 2528602

>>2528546
>I do not even care about JJK, but there are so many fandom accounts whose entire shtick is claiming Geto is a woman.
Something is telling me it started as a joke based on him having pretty long hair and how his technique works and they took it too seriously because they kept repeating said joke. I blocked some artists who draw Geto as a cuntboy or as a woman and never tag their shit.

No. 2528604

File: 1747635651665.png (759.23 KB, 661x1308, IMG_5497.png)

>>2528528
>>2528546
I literally just saw this today

No. 2528606

>>2528604
Ignoring the shit with Jacob, isn't Bella supposed to be tomboyish?

No. 2528607

>>2528586

but they're not into drawing military gore of anime girls tho? it's like it's not autopedo because it's too voyeuristic and sadistic at the same time. it feels like a guy drew it. like people say the artist of euphoria is female but she was told to draw that… meanwhile this artist is like he won't stop wishing girls were dead and wants them to be tortured all the time. like he is miserable and wants girls to suffer with him.

No. 2528611

>>2528607
Eh, I'm not going to die on a hill about it. Some think its a deranged woman, some think its a perverted guy. If you ever find a photo then you can dab on all of us if its a guy.

No. 2528618

>>2528611

i tried looking for a photo but all i kept finding was just more gore and rape so i had to stop for my own sanity tbh. i hate men.

No. 2528626

>>2528618
Just wait for the yuri manga release and then look up some moid yurifag fandom thread where they'd probably hunt it down themselves to see if they can jerk off over a woman drawing it or not.

No. 2528689

File: 1747644860542.jpg (37.07 KB, 780x550, 1000017164.jpg)

>>2528607
The thing is, I would be inclined to agree, but moids into this sort of art are obsessed with drawing the rapists or the guys their girls hang out with as disgusting or as generic as possible. This artist on the other hand has drawn quirky evil anime boys and their manga that stinks of DDLG trauma bullshit has the loli with a bigger, handsome bishie. We barely see him but he is definitely not an ugly or too generic moid.
Also, their military work lacks detail compared to their medical clinic work, which strikes me as unusual because military moids love putting in a stupid amount of effort into drawing guns and equipment.

I don't disagree that it could be a guy instead, especially with fashion being used only as background for girl drama with self harm and nowhere else. The aesthetic photos and hobby photos they post look generic too, kind of like someone aping what women do.

I've seen women who draw disgusting humiliating hentai with more masculine artstyles than this one and I've seen moids who draw bishie yaoi so really I have no doubt it could be either way, I'm just more inclined to believe it's a woman. If it's a moid, he is an especially vile one for having DDLG tendencies.

No. 2528788

>>2528689
So how does someone tell if they're male or female? Does one hand's determine each stroke being feminine or masculine depending on the person? Maybe this sounds retarded though but I've noticed women draw in certain ways that easily clocks them as female kek.

No. 2528795

>>2528573
Nonna, there are vtubers who enact loliguro by actually self harming. We ought to nuke Japan some more.

No. 2528818

>>2528573
>>2528795
So that innocent people can just straight die in the crossfire because how dare a country host degens–ignoring that's the case for every country. I know it's hyperbole or even a joke, but that's like saying america should have the statue of liberty become the next twin towers because trump bad. There's plenty of japanese media where everyone are adults, drawn as such, and engage in vanilla acts of sex. Not a single weird weeb trope in sight. Like, jfc, this just isn't funny.

No. 2528819

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>>2528818
it's a figure of speak bruv calm down

No. 2528823

>>2528818
Do you seriously think someone will nuke Japan because they read some neets post on a Pakistani rug weaving forum?

No. 2528840

>>2528689
Nayrt but it's not implausible that a guy into fashion dolls and fashion yuri would draw his male OCs looking hot too. I imagine it comes with the territory of being an artist.

No. 2528851

>>2528840
But why do female artist make both their men and women hot?

No. 2528853

>>2528851
It's not impossible for male artists to draw handsome men most just choose not to. Dr.stone is a good example, most of the male characters are bishies but the women look deformed

No. 2528854

>>2528851
Idk ask them

No. 2528893

>>2528840
Yeah but usually they don't draw guro or ryona of women.
>>2528851
Moids into humiliation and violence are both insecure and full of hatred towards women so they always draw ugly bastards or shotas when they have to draw male characters. It's to maximize the degradation aspect. Women into this sort of shit will also draw ugly men or shota sometimes, but their shota tend to be cuter and most importantly they will draw actual bishies because they do not subconsciously see them as competition or something that gives them insecurity, they just see them as another type of evil moid that can torture their female characters.

No. 2528918

>>2528602
>it started as a joke based on him having pretty long hair and how his technique works
I am convinced that women who larp as queer on twitter are just as obsessed with gender roles as conservatives. The moment any male character shows a slightly "softer" side they start labeling him a woman. Which just rubs me the wrong way. And the top becomes the le pathetic white boy with a crush. This is literally the popular Satosugu dynamic - Gojo is the whiny yearner puppy boy and Geto is the yass queen baddie.
>I blocked some artists who draw Geto as a cuntboy or as a woman
Based. I want to do the same for another ship I am into but the flanderization is so rampant that you pretty much have to block 70–80% of the content just to stay sane. So I have started ignoring that ship’s content altogether. I miss when fandoms were actually fun over whatever this is.

No. 2529162

>>2528918
>Gojo is the whiny yearner puppy boy and Geto is the yass queen baddie.
It's funny how on paper it's not totally wrong in the manga but it's so simplified and made even worse by English speaking fans it goes back to becoming an ooc interpretation. I don't know how they're doing this.

>you pretty much have to block 70–80% of the content just to stay sane. So I have started ignoring that ship’s content altogether.

Honestly I've seen way too much bullshit in way too many fandoms so I'm at this point in life where quality matters more than quantity. I don't care about potentially befriending other fans online anymore either, especially if these friendships are based on fandoms of all things, it never works, even my irl friendships that started with my friends and I liking the same series or video games only worked out because we had much more things in common than that. So even if that means missing a lot of posts I either block a lot of people or mute ship names and tags related to things I don't want to see. This way if I want to look for more artists who draw my OTP or favorite characters I don't have too see mastectomy scars, cuntboy porn, the most ooc heacanons known to mankind and these corny tumblr screenshots with the characters' faces plastered on them. I don't even read fanfics anymore.

No. 2529165

>>2528853
>dr stone
>good example
Boichi is absolute ass at drawing male characters. They look horrible.

No. 2529179

File: 1747681331346.png (4.03 MB, 1400x2488, 113ccabc-ed71-4da0-960b-5b587b…)

>>2528818
I don't think the other anons actually have the means to nuke Japan, nonnie

No. 2529203

File: 1747682312809.webp (22.48 KB, 1200x675, Gandhi.webp)

>>2529179
>be me
>be a farmer
>be button presser of a nuclear warhead in a undisclosed location
>scrolling lc on me lunch break to kek at some cows
>open fandom thread
>scroll
>suddenly pause
>some poster has revealed the biggest expose ever
>"japan makes pedophile content"
>suddenly the mug with pt on it with the slogan "im just beginning to shine!" starts shaking in my head
>blood rushes to my head
>i glance up
>see glowing red button
>think of all the husbando figures back home
>think of all nonas
>"i must do this"'
>send out evacuation notice to only Japanese and korean women (but not those who are pickmes i know these things i am a nuclear button presser)
>i nuke japan and korea
>peace is restored in the world

No. 2529218

>>2529203
Its a shitpost but unironically killing all the Japanese and Korean incel moids would have a net positive on the world.

No. 2529279

>>2529218
Can we upgrade it to
>killing all the incel moids

No. 2529462

File: 1747693150505.jpeg (21.03 KB, 275x275, 1747624496519.jpeg)

>>2528528
That meme is literally just picrel kek. Straight clusterbees wanna be special so bad, it's pathetic

No. 2529494

>>2528851
Assuming it's what the artist genuinely wants, it can easily be a matter of preference or it can be a plain and simple attraction to the bodies of both sexes.

No. 2529501

>>2528851
It's easy to draw a female character "hot" even when you aren't trying.

No. 2529509

File: 1747695058184.png (12.76 KB, 983x181, huih.png)

i understand what lgbtq+ means, what do the other things mean

No. 2529674

>>2529509
Glad they support real life…?

No. 2529728

>>2529509
"DID systems" are people who think they have multiple personalities, or that their brains contain multiple "people." There's very little scientific support for the concept. Anons here have debated whether yume and selfshipping are the same thing, but both basically involve a person imagining themselves in a relationship with a fictional character. "Kinning" is like when somebody thinks they have the "soul" of an animal, fictional character, etc. "IRL" is one I'm not sure about, I think it's either meant to refer to RPF (real person fiction), which is when people ship or write fanfic about real living people or it could refer to a kind of kin-LARPing where people act like their "kin" character in real life. I don't know, fandom zoomies are weird.

No. 2529756

File: 1747706623206.png (428.03 KB, 602x1155, IMG_5797.png)

what the actual fuck is wrong with these people

No. 2529761

>>2528573
>>2528818
>>2528795
Do you think japanese otaku post ''one pearl harbour wasnt enough'' as response to when their waifus and husbandos get turned into fat trannies by western artists?

No. 2529792

>>2529761
Probably tbh

No. 2529798

>>2529761
No they usually just say that westerners draw ugly characters for moral superiority reasons and they are very whiny when doing so

No. 2529800

>>2529761
Not American but I think Japanese should make a dart board of cities like Portland, Sanfran, NY, LA, Seattle, Boston, etc, and then every time someone trannifies a waifu or husbando they throw a dart and whichever city it lands on is where they strike next.

No. 2529803

>>2529761
9/11
>>2529798
Not wrong tbh.

No. 2529960

>>2529800
Yes because only Americans trannify characters amirite

No. 2529968

>>2529960
Yes they do but they're their own special breed, like jersey cows.

No. 2530022

>>2529761
No but I remember them making 9/11 memes when the Barbie movie came out, only for Americans to make better 9/11 Barbie memes kek.

No. 2530027

>>2529960
Like most shitty social politics, it started in the US and slowly spreaded to normal countries like a virus, so they should be held responsible.

>>2530022
God this was so funny, they were horrified americans acrually joke about it all the time kek.

No. 2530176

>>2529756
But trannies totally aren't pedos you guys

No. 2530188

>>2529756
Aren't these characters' kids? Like almost middle school or elementary age? It's like looking at a boy playing dolls and being excited he might grow up to be a anal loving twink. Disgusting.

No. 2530193

>>2530188
Yeah they're like 11 years old in this image

No. 2530654

File: 1747764637111.png (66.31 KB, 749x471, IMG_5475.png)

this is over fandom drama about skin tones

No. 2530657

>>2530654
The drama has just been blown entirely out of proportion. But picrel isn't entirely wrong. It's funny seeing all those southeast asian weebs dickriding for their uber pure japan. Weebs caping for Japan isn't just their issue though, Americans and westerners do it all the time too. But anyway, I'm just hoping this drama finally dies down so I can stop seeing people fight over race shit.

No. 2530663

>>2530654
shes right though kek, japan still doesn't accept its warcrimes even after being trailed for it so much so they try to remove any evidence or reminder of it (like the korean women they kidnapped and enslaved into rape)

No. 2530675

>>2529756
This is a disgusting thing to say about the way prepubescent child actors were posing for a picture.

No. 2530797

>>2527607
For artists like your picrel, it's mostly inexperience and autism. These artists usually weebs who like eastern artists that draw conventionally hot men, but they don't have the writing and art skills to make something of similar quality, hence the circle tool face. The autism part explains the weird husbandos

No. 2530804

>>2530797
Wait, so if you like conventionally attractive men and even draw them well, that's not autism?

No. 2530843

File: 1747774737141.jpg (48.91 KB, 736x566, 1000022131.jpg)

>>2530804
No I'm talking about being obsessed with husbandos like picrel, that's autism

No. 2530848

>>2530843
I hate this shit and all autistic russian shit like this so much but I keep watching this vid and I don't know why

No. 2530849

>>2530843
>>2530848
This fugly shit makes me feel extremely violent.

No. 2530882

>>2530848
This entire channel and ones like it feel like modern elsagate.

No. 2530901

>>2530843
Oh my god, how can anyone like this fugly ass gray thing?

No. 2530906

>>2530848
10 years ago this guy would be making sexy slenderman maid catboy animations.

No. 2530916

>>2530848
dollar store hazbin

No. 2530925

File: 1747778401184.png (284.32 KB, 1079x1331, 1000022132.png)


No. 2531139

>>2530188
yeah the actors were really young in this picture. its disgusting

No. 2531142

>>2528528
I take solace in knowing none of these people are taken seriously outside of twitter and cities like Portland or whatever

No. 2531204

>>2530925
Kek no way

No. 2531210

>>2530843
I want to die inside man. This is what passes as hot? What?

No. 2531215

>>2531210
TBF the fans of him seem to be mostly underage

No. 2531314

>>2506710
I know this is an old post but can any batfujo explain why brudick and brujay are way more popular than brutim?

No. 2531319

>>2530843
Whenever I see this guy, I remember that his creator used to post Portal fan art on DeviantArt and made ship art of Rattmann x GLaDOS

No. 2531346

File: 1747808601673.jpg (300.28 KB, 1178x1507, GrZUbhrXYAAASQh.jpg)

>>2528528
>>2528604
meanwhile, all the unironic queer couples look like this irl

No. 2531365

>>2526452
Womp womp I have a whole library of history books at home and I still think women drawing Nazi Germany pounding the shit out of Italy is based

No. 2531372

File: 1747811006882.png (423.43 KB, 743x752, 5cd-1604993513.png)

>>2527362
Silence, puny scum. Witness the Hetalia fandom today with your foolish little eyes and relay to me which ship has retained the most traction in fanart and fics roughly two decades later? You will forever stay crushed beneath our heel, mutt. Know your place.

>>2527462
>>2527565
I usually hate this woman's art but damn those legs are hot, based.

>>2527526
Unclench, nona. Drawing Nazis is based in the sense that women have no obligation to hold respect for the institutions of war perpetuated by men, not because you're a dick-sucking cuck who wants to coddle fascist scrotes. Make your porn, make your point and leave it there.

>>2527597
Picrel; absolute retard logic kek.

No. 2531376

>>2531365
poor Italy . . .

No. 2531377

>>2531365
so your a porn addict?



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