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No. 2483818
This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters> Debates over death of the author> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creatorsRelated threads:
Fujo vs. anti-fujo discourse:
>>>/ot/1978406Fujocoomer cringe:
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How do you know about both bd2 and nu:carnival and this tweet gets 4k likes
Bots?? This is so bizarre lmao
No. 2483840
>>2483818What's the matter with Rush fans saying "their band is not for women"?
I'm a fan of prog rock band Rush.
No. 2483843
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Just realized now that pic related sort of looks like a female Geto.(go to /m/)
No. 2483869
>>2483337Araki? Togashi? Man that's fucking heartbreaking.
>kazue kato>katsura hoshinoTwo stupid pickme bitches. Gender traitors.
I will say I'm shocked to see Tite Kubo still not be on there. I doubt it's for moral reasons more like he just hates Jump but good on him and I loved Bleach as a kid, so that'd make me sad.
>>2483371Epstein of the manga industry kek
>>2483450Seeing scrotes cream their pants over the most generic factory made fotm gacha character for the 9478483th time is so fucking cringe.
No. 2483959
>>2483873They dont have the
assets in nippon
No. 2484099
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FMA would had been peak if Hohenhiem had stopped aging in his teens But no, we have to deal with his ugly ass walled mug in both versions, worse is that Edward ends up looking like him in his forties….(go to /m/)
No. 2484120
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>>2483834Otaku just means obsessive nerd, there's no reason why women can't also be nerds.
No. 2484146
Actually does it make a woman fan of say some random eroge a pickme if she doesn't talk about fandom with anyone else like a shut-in? I figured it was pickme behavior if say she turns it into her entire personality outwardly on social media.
>>2484134I'd get it if they liked her from back in the day and just feel attached but agree otherwise.
No. 2484172
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>>2484169I'm guessing she got over it since she just gave her self insert a different love interest later on
No. 2484177
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>>2484174She wasn't fat at all when she drew it, anasperg.
No. 2484187
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The tweet in OP irritates me so much. I'll never understand these people's incisive need to turn men into lesbians. Do they not notice that they try so hard to be inclusive they end up forcing lesbians to date men? Picrel is from a personal cow of mine, who also thinks the Geto guy is a lesbian woman.
No. 2484222
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>>2483843she actually reminded me more of Envy
No. 2484225
>>2484188Pretty much. The trend of referring to husbandos as female in any way is overcompensating for the fact that they're just regular straight women with a crush on regular straight moids. They are not attracted to women, they just know it's good fandom optics to prefer women over men and it's their attempt at avoiding judgement and fitting in.
None of this would be necessary if it wasn't for virtue signalling and purity policing so I tend not to judge like, random tumblr users who call my husbando their gf. Like, if they were simply allowed to lust over basic moids the way men are allowed to lust over women, none of this would happen. No sympathy for the ones who treat him like a tranny though.
No. 2484367
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>>2484149This is retarded, simply compare Lum to what moids created. She has attitude, the incel tier protagonist scrote is constantly bullied for not being man enough but he has to exist for the show to be aired in that era. Meanwhile clones of her always try to appease the male ego somehow.
No. 2484371
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>>2484367>Meanwhile clones of her always try to appease the male ego somehowTsunderes in the 2000s were crazy fucking
abusive what are you talking about
No. 2484388
>>2484371The picture you posted is still male fetish coded lol
Abuse is not the key, Ataru in Urusei Yatsura constantly gets told he's not man enough by other men and gets clowned on
No. 2484396
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>>2484393Nothing could hammer the point into your head. Urusei Yatsura is 20 years older than Zero no Tsukaima and aimed at a general audience in the already misogynistic 80s Japan, the anime being a mainstream late night comedy. Zero no Tsukaima is a moid fanservice harem show.
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>>2484225>None of this would be necessary if it wasn't for virtue signalling and purity policingBit ironic considering women on this site get called pick-me whores for not toeing a very fine line all the time. I'm starting to think purity spirals are inevitability in any female-dominated community.
No. 2485127
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>>24850304chan moids will call whatever variety of waifufag and/or yurifag they dislike a "retarded moefag with shit taste" or something like that and call it a day. Meanwhile women on fandom spaces will say with a straight face how fujoshi are all misogynists who "need to decenter men from their lives" and write entire essays on the matter whilts legitimately thinking they are opposing Actual Literal Nazis by harrassing artists and writers. Like, I'm supposed to believe pic related is merely talking about fucking LoL slash out of all things.
Women make it a moral issue, men don't.
No. 2485142
>>2485138I mean we're basically a microcosm of female socialization
We have threads like Shay's which are just all e-thots and then also a proshipper cringe thread.
No. 2485159
>>2485128Idk, it popped up on my dash and all I could think was
>what the fuck is this retard on ab- OH it's another LoL idiotGranted, all Arcane spergs sound the same to me.
No. 2485164
>>248515590% of them now are for-profit/charity zines with 20 types of random merch to inflate the price, and the art/writing varies wildly, it's not really worth getting into them most of the time. There are still some zines where a small group put their genuine interest on them to make something interesting out of love for a media, but they're an unicorn to find.
People just see them as a collaborative commission nowadays, I remember seeing outrage not long ago about some people arguing it was insulting to pretend artists would join your zine without monetary gain (being given the zine itself isn't a reward for their time to them), it speaks a lot on how zines are seen nowadays.
No. 2485456
>>2483498Keking so hard at Hoyo giving him extra cake to bait in the female players.
>WAAAH PLEASE BITCHES PLAY OUR GOONER GAME IT HAS TWILIGHT FURRY YAOI AND A SEXY VAMPIREI can tell they're desperate because the revenue keeps sinking and sinking. And it was never a female-friendly game to begin with, especially when the lead artist is a pedophile.
No. 2485863
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Ahahhaha holy shit that first point
No. 2485876
>>2485866>>2485867Official community guidelines for a chinese coomer gacha
Imagine if women did that
No. 2485889
>>2485876Kek I could have believed it was for a fan community with the whole bit about "hypocrites". Reminds me of when Chinese Vtuber fans were harassing anyone who worked with/supported Coco when she namedropped Taiwan, regardless if they were involver in said incident. Maybe it's cultural?
Anyway feels good not to be a gachafag and have companies contempt you for daring to draw non canon fanart
No. 2485893
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>>2485863>"We want to ban unconventional sexualities">Singles out yuri, forgets to mention yaoiA finger on the monkey's paw curls.
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>>2485863>Say NO to gaslighting!>All the girls are in love with the player!The fragility of the male ego is truly something to behold.
No. 2485920
>>2485890>no heterosexuality for the fujo gameI don't mind genderswap BL
>no yaoi or shipping characters together for the yume gameBut that's the best part of playing otome
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>>2485873Anti yaoi stamp time?
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Im beyond tired at this point can people who do not want to engage with the themes of a work fuck off to OCland already, im seeing more and more people defending this type of behavior as of late.
No. 2485971
>>2485967I think it comes down to two main things
>They don't see other men as friends, they see them purely as competition >They're absolutely terrified of seeming gay to the point where just seeing two men together enrages themIf an obvious joke scene like this was in a Chinese waifu series they'd lose their fucking minds.
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>>2485953Apparently even other waifu gacha players think these guys are retarded, kek.
No. 2485999
>>2485890LaDS bans yaoi, doesn't it?
I don't think NuCarni does but tbf the gay sex kind of filters a lot of yume automatically.
No. 2486001
>>2485996JFC, what? This has to be fake, no fucking way.
>>2485999Yea and they're kind of weird about it but not as much as these retards making up the snowbreak community.
No. 2486004
>>2485996Imagine being so unhinged and annoying that even the fucking
Blue Archive fandom thinks you're insane kek
No. 2486017
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>>2485893I'm not spiteful enough to commission art of this, but if I could draw I'd 100% draw the moid characters in sexual situations with other scrotes.
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>>2486025That's what strange to me about snowbreak, they have everyone in love with the protagonist but don't allow waifu wars? They're basically egging their playerbase on and then going "noooo don't stooop"
>>2486022You're not entirely wrong but I don't know is the self insert protagonist with no eyes and bangs in front of his face really an uke phenotype?
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>>2486039>Canonfags hating all of the above for disrupting their strict autism thought patternKek, my favorite type of fag
>Husbandofags/waifufags hating the canon ships for cuckoldryThis one is interesting because you sometimes see the "Protag kun doesn't deserve her, she's mine anyway" cope after their waifu (or sometimes husbando) loses.
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>>2486009There's a decent amount.
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>>2486039>>2486045>husbando fags/yumefags>the level of autism it must take to mate guard a being that doesn't exist.so whatever happened to creating a pocket dimension in your own head to imagine a specific, perfect AU where you take place in the fiction's world and is the one on the "winning team" or in the spotlight?
No. 2486186
>>2486182Anti troon
>Poison Ivy is 100% radfem misandrist >Jason kills rapistsPro troon
>Harley is a libfem>Penguin likes them because he profits off itThe rest don’t give a shit
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>>2486195It's either moids who like him because 'he me' or weird fakebois who like him because QUIRKY CLOWN
I could see Joker trooning out but also making 41% jokes
No. 2486229
>>2486182>Mad Hatter>viewing women as objects to possess is transphobia>Court of Owls >conservative rich white men would be TERFsHoly fucking lack of self awareness, Batman!
>>2486186Mad Hatter would be a TIM 100%. He's a sexually predatory manchild obsessed with finding "his Alice". If he couldn't find one, I'd bet he'd become "Alice".
No. 2486241
>>2486229I mean they also put Deathstroke in
terf because he's a bisexual pedophile and apparently Elon Musk (no idea how they got that from him)
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>femboy is a slur now
No. 2486410
>>2485996This is the first time I hear about moids having their own version of yume vs fujo spergouts, kek. Are there other male centric fandoms having this type of infight?
>>2486402A lot of MtF have a very thinly veiled hatred against the idea of a male crossdresser with no interest in actually trooning out so they're always trying to #cancel any words that refer to non-trans crossdressers out of existence, so that trannies (and maybe the rare male enby LARPer) can have a monopoly on "male wearing a dress".
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>>2486410I think the fujo stuff is just way more noticeable because there's less media targeted specifically at straight women who want to ship the characters with themselves compared to media targeted at straight men and omnipandering. Especially in the western anime sphere.
Moids constantly sperg over troons and yuricucks on /vg/
I just went to their blue archive general and they're losing their shit over yuribait
No. 2486442
>>2486410>A lot of MtF have a very thinly veiled hatred against the idea of a male crossdresserOP is a girl but you’re correct
>>2486425Basically yeah
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>>2486450I’m not even joking when I say more than half of the face of their movement are “queer”, if they don’t suck up to them and affirm their delusions about sex they’ll lose a significant amount of their publicity. Hell in some fandoms intersex headcanons exist and are considered under the umbrella of “queer” hcs (I hate the alien stage fandom more every day).
No. 2486488
>>2486025In this case the waifufags see the media as a sort of romance sportsball. There can only be one winner and they want their girl to win. In the context of a gacha game where there will never be a canon romance hating the other girls doesn't really make sense and relatedly it makes sense for a community to want people to be positive and not put other people's waifus down.
Part of why there can be so much negativity in fandom spaces between fans though is am implicit possessiveness over the fan creators who actually make stuff. This explains similar dynamics with other kinds of shipping. If your oshi or OTP isn't popular that means they aren't getting as much fanart or fanfic. I don't know if every person that does this is consciously aware that this is what they are trying to do but the aim is to browbeat these fan creators to stop making content the harasser dislikes in favor of characters and pairings they prefer. I've seen people go mask off in comment sections where their insults swerve over into asking for free content of their fav/OTP and I've seen people complain about wanting a given artist to make different content instead of lamenting the lack of content for the character/s they like.
No. 2486498
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>>2486004Blue Archive is having a mental breakdown over this.
No. 2486509
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Who needs incels when you have retards like OP making feminist statement defending male game devs.
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>>2486509This reminds me of that one person claiming nikke is a story about the objectification of women and how the mc is the only man who seems them as people. See how dumb that sounds? Some fans in that community literally believe in this interpretation–those bad feminist are just too blind to see it. Notice how men tend to over-glorify what they like while everything else as bad out of projection of their own twisted ideals. I will never believe for a second that nikke isn't less worse than it is because the mc isn't like other guys. Just look at this, tell me this is a feminist game with a straight face. You can't.
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>>2486462>I hate the alien stage fandom more every dayGod, I miss the simpler times when Vivinos was making pink bitch club, now her community is infested with rotholes and faggotry
No. 2486584
>>2486570>>2486582Moids raging over yuri just means they are subconciously finally seeing women as romantic competitors kek
100 years ago it would be seen as some freaky infantilized "sisterhood" behaviour, let them seethe over anime girls holding hands
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>>2486561I just watched all the videos Nona and it was so cute! We need more psych horror in this art style! But yeah it’s a shame that if this came out after alien stage people would be headcanoning every character as trans, and caliming Manako did what she did because of gender envy and “transmisogyny”. And they would be claiming that QMENG is the one who decided that the girls
would be killed by Manako because she’s a fujo who can’t handle yuri.
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>>2486850As someone who's been browsing these gaming communities since 2015 I can tell you it's unironically Korean and Chinese incels spreading their views, it kept escalating over the years.
Pre-Genshin you had the guys who were into GFL and Azur Lane and it was generally its own bubble, GFL lorefags were low key chinaboos because content was so rare lol
Azur Lane was always coomers and degens, it only escalated further with Yostar publishing Blue Archive and guys bragging more on main about being lolicons later. But yeah generally guys found what they saw on weibo coop and brought it back.
The Mihoyo fandom always had the haters of male characters, they also had the schizo incels who threw a massive drama over bunny girls a few years ago.
On 4chan the culture went from GARcher memes to "shipcuck" wars in 2016 or so? A lot of users would post "not a galge" and seethe over male characters or shipping content, that's also what started the cross-general shitposting where trolls would claim their game is better because it only has female characters that slobber for MC and have no personality.
When the Project Moon incel drama happened I also noticed a lot of Korean incels spreading misinfo on reddit and hating "feminists"
With Fate itself it's very funny how it went from fighting over Gil/Shirou/Cu and powerleveling to fighting which girl has the most fanart and shipcuck bait, is it cucking if Hakuno's girl is in love with Gudao (inspired by azur lane oathing dramas)? You can see when that kind of culture got imported lol
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>>2484225>>2484188but I've seen it applied to non-husbando characters like picrel
No. 2487076
>>2487002Guys like Asmongold are spreading it to the mainstream "online" moid
But grasstouchers will keep touching grass
No. 2487437
>>2486272It's boring. Sure I might think "wow this would work so well as a romance" but then what? I might as well just make my own story.
Canon has substance and power to it. IF I'm watching something with a friend I'd say about a canon romance "isn't that so cute? didn't it add to x message of the story?" there's something to actually bounce off of. meanwhile if you wanted to talk about a fanon ship you'd have to analyze every interaction on screen which is annoying.
Fanon shipping is only good for browsing a few fanarts on pixiv and fucking off. Canon ships are the shit I devote time to sperging about and defending and debating with other retards online. (i can accomplish this shit mainly with romance VN's).
No. 2487439
>>2486253That's because I have this autistic devotion to the ideal that there must be unambigious
romantic chemistry shown. If the interactions can be interpreted as something other than romantic it's not a good romance.
No. 2487790
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"antis" are generally retarded for reacting so hypersensitively to drawings and writings of fiction. But the stupid thing about self-proclaimed "proshippers" is that despite their big chest and hot air about "not giving a fuck" and quirky responses to hate in their DMs, they always mass delete so much of their own shit, set their accounts to "protected" or even just nuke everything AT SOME POINT down the line of their social media. What happened to all that talk about not caring about what people think about your art? Why go out like a bitch now? Is it the pressure of the "antis" in their DMs after the 100th message telling to go kill themselves? Is it "artist regret" where they realize all the degenerate shit they made is actually NOT something they're comfortable with? Or could it be the result of mass reporting until twitter caved and put a bullet in their accounts? Also, I used to lurk on discord servers of popular "proship" artists years back, and they're so often BPD as hell or just mentally unwell full stop. I wonder if that has to do with them being "hardcore proshippers".
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>>2483818kpop yaoi and it's consequences
No. 2487838
>>2487790lol maybe because they realize they're not "just drawings and fiction!!!" like you claim they are. I love moralfagging about fiction, it's just that the "
problematic" shit I do enjoy I don't think is wrong IRL either. I'm consistent.
No. 2487876
>>2487790Proship fags always cry about "antis" until you ask what those antis are actually against. With how much pornified and gross the fandom space has become I'd rather more people become antis some people
moid and pickmes need to be shamed and ran off I dont believe their "
much freeze peach !" argument either because what their advocating most of the time isnt adult age gap couples but pedophila and zooshit
No. 2487900
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>Google a piece of Sam and Max lore because I like the games and cartoon
>First thing that comes up is the Sam and Max wiki
>Click on it, what could go wrong?
>First thing I see on Sam's article is this
Ummmmm, is this a joke? Is this just some clever satire that I am simply too autistic to understand, or are these people serious? I can deal with him being a fag but not a tranny, he would never!
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>>2487903I know nonna, I just found it funny enough to mention here, the voice changer thing is such a cope lmao.