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>>>/ot/2351907Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
-screencaps are necessary while talking about milk
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
DO NOT REPLY TO BAIT! REPORT AND IGNORE!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/painting by :Artemisia Gentileschi
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
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>>2405781Not a problem, beautiful nonna, mwah
Thanks for the books!
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Based threadpic, her Beheading painting was always a million times better than Carfaggio's
>>2405786>>2405788Shut the fuck up. It's a new thread the derail should end.
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>>2405786I just want everyone to know that they are defending a character who is literally known as being a "mascohist", from the IM@S game where you literally basically date them (yeah, you "raise" them, but you talk to them, whatever.) "Hiro is referred to as a masochist by the Producer, as she enjoys being berated by him and being seen as "a lost cause." She calls the producer a demon, saying it's what she likes most about him." This isn't just a "loli" character, she is literally goonbait from a gooner game LMFAO. The game "gakuen" is literally A RAISING IDOL simulator. There is an obvious fucking difference.
>A genius girl who gives off a mysterious vibe. She graduated from a math and science university overseas at the age of 14. Tired of living an easy and boring life, she enrolled in Hatsuboshi Gakuen to try things she's bad at. She scored perfectly on academics but scored zero on the practicals during the entrance exams. The interview evaluation by the principal was also rated excellent. She is a weirdo who finds joy in "grueling lessons" and "things that don't go well". She became an idol because she thinks "she's the least cut out for it". (derailing/leave it in the last thread) No. 2405794
>>2405788She is right tbf that people give Sailor Moon and CCS a break despite the content and fanbase.
Neither really have much to do with the thread, though. Just consider the type of thread and the people who post in it before posting something from idolmaster, even if there's a thread for the franchise for it on this site.
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How do I feel like I'm not failing my husbandos whenever I do something that isn’t art? I got really into body building and sports and I stopped drawing for months and barely wrote because I was positively in love with the ball. But I felt an odd guilt. Like I was neglecting my wife for a lady at work. Art has been my lifelong dream, I have been working on my story and oc's since 3rd grade. My autism has not let up. But what if I actually get a life and don't end up being a famous artist with a hundred devoted yumes at my beck and call? I stayed up late to write about my favorite oc for 5 hours, and I don't regret it. But I want to stop cheating on my husbando, or at least stop feeling guilty about it.
Should I get a better schedule? Strict sport and husbando hours? Due to muh ADHD I can't really focus on one thing and its a long way to Adderall. What has driven me so far is just being gifted insane ideas or motivation at random times and spending hours drawing or writing them. Is there a way to get motivation on command? Is my brain fried from half a decade of TikTok? I genuinely believe I would be committing a sin not getting my work out to the public ASAP!
No. 2405977
>>2405790Caravaggio's death was so fucking satisfying. There's something poetic about a mega violent moid who spent his life being a piece of shit in every possible way and was coddled because he was a widdle baybee who painted such pwetty pictures getting 1)exiled, 2)being pardoned (because of course he was) and getting a passage back to Rome only to get arrested and lose all the stuff he'd brought with him because the ship had fucked off in the meantime, and 3) dying of 'illness' shortly after that.
I don't give a shit if he actually died of dick rot or if he was moidered by one of the many families he'd managed to piss off but either way, KEK. Rest in piss and may all disgusting scrotoids follow his path.
No. 2406081
>>2406004i think it's because those nonnas aren't actually grinding basic fundamentals in a meaningful and helpful way. if they were, then "rendermaxxing" wouldn't be so out of their reach because they would have a firm understanding of one of the most important fundamentals, value.
i think digital art is so accessible these days that a lot of people just pick up the ipad and try to go into studying higher level fundamentals like hardcore anatomy then get frustrated when they can't "render" because they have no understanding of value or light.
for anyone struggling with "rendermaxxing", try doing value studies until you feel confident adding color again.
No. 2406251
>>2406245It's definitely an XY or some seething Becky
triggered into a keysmashing rage at the thought of the prettier, more popular art hoe Stacies in her intro to art history class kek.
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>>2406251>>2406245Basic artwhore nonas when they discover there are actually women in academia who spend their time researching old masters instead of cherry picking the most basic high school curriculum paintings in existence for internet brownie points.
>>2406245I’m not wasting my breath to educate Beckies like this, they’re dime-a-dozen and my time is more precious than that. I just came by to hate. Enjoy your evening, now.
No. 2406305
>>2406289I'm not the ayrt and honestly don't care about who's right about a bunch of artists who've been dead for hundreds of years before my birth, I'm just having a laugh at your tard tantrum and how you're still here after your sassy goodbye in
>>2406276 kek
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>>2405790Samefagging, the reason why Gentileschi's painting is better is not just the context of the painting but the painting itself. In Carvaggio's, the subjects are passive and so is the composition, meanwhile in Gentileschi's everyone is active, Judith and the servant are both participating in beheading Holofrenes who is fighting back, it's a nice triangular composition and Gentileschi's more naturalist style really sells it.
She's not my favourite artist of that period, I prefer Sofonisba Anguissola and Elisabetta Sirani and I like other naturalism artists better, but she's still an objectively fantastic artist.
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>>2405331Nta but who are "the masters"?
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>>2406425NTA but she most likely means artists like Rembrandt, Bosch, Rochegrosse (picrel), Perugino,Jan van Eyck… there's a lot of them so do some research and find the ones you like.
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>>2406416The only time I'm able to sperg about one of my favorite artists is when people are infighting, but I'm so happy there's another gentileschi fan! I feel like caravaggio's ability to render isn't as detailed in comparison to gentileschi's, there's no denying that her ability to render clothing was nothing like other artists at the time. Many pieces that involve gentileschi also depicted women more morally complex compared to other male artists that left women portrayed as either a madonna or a whore. I wish I could I could write in detail the cultural implications, the inner art world's response, and the personal experiences of specific art pieces that she's made but i'd be spamming kek.
I have also written a 50 page analysis of her life, her stylistic inspirations, and her influence on the italian art world so I've grown a very fond attachment to her. No. 2406681
>>2406634I could have sworn we used to but I can't find it. I remember anons redlining art in /m/ way back but that might have just been in the bad art or rate my art threads
>>2406592I'd love to read your gentileschi sperging nona
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>>2406681>>2406634We do, it's here
>>243951 for some reason it's in /ot/
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>>2406416>Elisabetta SiraniGoogling her and I can see why you like her work. She seemed based.
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>send moot a drawing I spent seven hours on
> she like it, don't reblog it
>resist the urge to ask her to reblog it because I don't want it to flop
>vent that I feel like my art is worthless if it doesn't get enough notes, how my memes and text post get more than the drawings I spent up to 15 hours on
>admit that I'm probably delulu about my art, that I don't know if I'll ever be able to be good at what I'm doing
>she tells me not to worry, my art is good, the algorithm is just random, her arts from the same fandom doesn't get much notes either
>tell me she want to send my drawing to a friend since it's a subject they like
>I feel better
>send her a good drawing with few notes to prove her point
>she reblog that one
Yes, I'm aware of how pathetic I am
No. 2407952
>>2407579You seriously can't put this much meaning into likes or reblogs. Do
you even reblog everything all your mutuals post? Of course it's sad when a drawing doesn't do as well as you expect but if you make art you love it won't even matter. I actually used to have the opposite problem, my art would do really well but no one gave a fuck about my memes or text posts. Whenever this one mutual would log on to make some low effort text post it would get hundreds of likes and I'd get so miserable every time kek. It felt like no one cared about me, only about the images I made. I'm glad I got over that once I stopped making fanart. Nowadays I don't even post anymore, getting a few thousand likes or followers makes no difference in my life. If you want to grow your numbers you just have to keep making art that's appealing to you. People recognize soulful pieces and you won't even have to beg or guilttrip anyone into engaging with them.
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>>2407579People who do similar things have been made fun of in past threads, don't want to be mean but I want to convey that people, and anons itt, find that behaviour really annoying. You need to get a grip, why are you stressing out and guilt tripping your friend over
pixels? Do you remember everything you've ever liked and reblogged? Why do you think your art is any different? That's not to say your art is bad but you're using a pretty shitty way to judge your self worth as a lot of people go "pretty", like your post and scroll away and do that to several other posts. Bad artist who use pretty colours get popular all the time, ergo you can't treat popularity as a indicator of artistic skill, it's a indicator of luck and being social media savvy (or a very proficient rage baiter).
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>>240757I can't blame you, when I was younger I used to be the same way and it made it so hard to enjoy the fandoms I was in and my own art. I became so jealous and insecure that I gave up drawing.
Social media really sets us up to act like this, but like other anons say, you can't equate your talent to likes. I've started posting art again last year and this time around I don't follow many blogs or try to make mutual. My blog is more of a dumping ground but I am happy to scroll through and see my own progress and improvement.
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>>2405379I've used that tutorial before! I thought I'd try using a more guided approach to learning fundamentals (the thread links), but I'll use prrb's tutorial as a regular exercise. I'll start dating every piece as well.
>PicrelI don't like very many artists, I usually prefer a few of their pieces while I'm uninterested in the rest.
However, I absolutely adore Kaneoya Sachiko, from her color choice to the way she draws men and the environments she depicts them in. I wouldn't prefer to do so myself, but I like that almost every woman she draws is an anthro animal, usually terrorizing the man in the image kek.
I wouldn't like to commit to extreme realism like Ilya Repin, I think, though his skill is very impressive. I mostly like his colors and his lighting. I love the ornateness in
Sadko, along with the way he portrays depth in the painting with the procession. And I was always drawn to
Ivan because of the evocative expressions (and lighting, of course).
I mostly intend to focus on character work and environments, supplementing my current projects with concept art to help myself visualize what I'm working on. Rendering full illustrations is not something I'm capable of right now, but I would definitely like to do so in the future.
Because of this, and my temporary limited space (and funds) I don't think traditional art is the way to go? I'm still at the first step of "practice drawing on a piece of paper" kek, so I am not sure how or when I would start using an art program.
Sorry for the delay in replying. After I arrived home, things got a little crazy for a couple of days.>>2405492Nona, if you are not intelligent, then I am borderline retarded. I should have known you meant sketchbook, so sorry.
Should I be drawing in a sketchbook the way I'm using the printer paper and clipboard to practice? Or using it some other way? I've seen anons arguing about how to use a sketchbook in past threads kek, so I at least know it's not meant for showing off finished pieces on youtube.
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>>2406681>I'd love to read your gentileschi sperging nonaThank you so much! There's so much I can say about her, the main focus of my paper was primarily analyzing the work in comparison with other artists at the time and how her experiences gave her the ability to depict scenes in a way that was not only unique but influential to her peers. I feel like Gentileschi uses the female form without the cultural restrictions of a woman's body being something inherently sexual, so there's no incentive to depict honorable women with more or less clothes.
>Lucretia: A noble woman in rome who was famous for killing herself after being brutally raped, exposing and fueling sentiments that helped transform rome from a kingdom to a republic.My first example is Lucretia: how Gentileschi depicted the clear distraught brought from sexual violence showing female nudity in a way that expresses discomfort from the sheer disgust from lucretia herself. In comparison to many male artists and their madonna whore complex that either depicts Lucretia as a voyeuristic rape fantasy where she is somehow dressed up and beautiful, almost like she was ready for her assault, or a woman who is covered in clothes, as the artist was not willing to infer through the painting that she is mutilating herself after being "tarnished". (A famous example of this being Rembrandt)
This theme of uniquely portraying the female body that does not deny the woman her dignity can be depicted positively though. A woman being aware of her sexuality can be found with one of her less famous paintings of Venus and Cupid. At the time, many depicted Venus as either a loving mother, an arrogant goddess obsessed with her looks, or a sex-filled nymph who stares back at the viewer, excited for their response. Gentileschi completely breaks these archetypes by drawing venus as a goddes who lays glamorous and self assured. She isn't staring at the viewer, she isn't looking at herself in the mirror, she isn't even depicted as vein or arrogant, she seems confident and at ease. Being aware of the culture and time period the painting seems almost revolutionary to me. It's such an early example of depicting a sexual woman with dignity without needing to cover anything up.
I was going to talk about "Susanna and the elders", and "Jael and Sisera", but I think I've sperged enough.
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>>2409057ntyart, but I'd love to read your sperging about those pieces!
In other news, I think I'm finally ready to get back on the horse and make art again. I did a lot of commissions last year and all the degenerate subject matter made me burnt out on art in general (I hate that's the only way to make consistent big bucks). Just gonna keep my commissions closed and do personal art for a while. Kinda torn on cutting this one guy out once I do open my commissions again. I easily made the most money from him by a long shot, but I also hated drawing for him the most purely because of the subject matter, he was otherwise very patient and easy to deal with as a client. I also never post any of his work since I don't want to attract more clients who like what he likes. I don't have a lot of time to draw in general, so this creates gaps in my uploads which I also don't like very much.
Would it be stupid to lie to him about having a lot of clients? As in, I come to him once every two months or so to say that he's finally up in the queue? I don't have a public queue and taking a comm from him at this frequency I think would make for a better balance of making $$$ without burning out again. The trouble with this option I think is that I know some of my other clients know this guy. I don't get the sense that they are friends or anything, I but I assume they're in some shared discord server since the guy recently messaged me saying "so-and-so said your tablet broke a while ago, is that still the case?". I just wanna do commissions for him less often, but I know being honest about hating drawing for him would scare him off entirely. Ugh
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How do you guys feel about marc brunet’s art school? How do you feel about online art courses in general? I’m looking for one to follow, but I would like some input on other’s experiences following them and/or how you think of them as a whole.
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Tbh I've accumulated some substantial skill over the years I've been drawing (mainly gesture, anatomy and markmaking) but I can't for the life of me make an appealing artwork like ever. Once the sketch/lineart phase is over everything goes to shit, immediately. I render and color like shit, my compositions suck, mood & atmosphere is basically non-existent.
Everything I make looks like a dry illustration in a textbook even though I have a cartoony style and attempt dynamic poses. It's especially disheartening because my whole goal in drawing is to make the beautiful, vivid images I see in my head real. I don't know what to do at this point because studying my weak points more doesn't help and makes me even more frustrated.
No. 2409948
>>2409538She is right, even if I don't agree with her take of AI art, I definitely believe in a world where AI artist and actual artist can co-exists.
be the change you want to see in the world
No. 2410103
>>2409919If everything goes to shit past the sketch and lineart stage, try changing how you color. If you do digital art definitely swap that for traditional, I recommend getting some student grade watercolors and some white and dark gouaches (I like to use black, payne's grey and titanium white) and playing around with them. If money's an issue get some dot cards and a Kuretake watercolor set- it's more like gouache that watercolor but it's very versatile.
It's a completely different experience from working digitally. It's harder to make the piece look muddy and overdone, and if you use good paper you can build up layers of color that look vibrant and beautiful without it turning into a sad pile of shit. Follow a few tutorials with different painting styles to get started and go from there.
No. 2410140
Art used to be so social to me. I got a large amount of engagement on Deviantart, made friends, got concrit, got something to look forward everyday.
Ever since that site got progressively worse and lost its population I've not been able to recreate this in any single of the various many social media I've tried.
I think I've objectively improved a lot, and my friends tell me so but of course their opinion is biased, however now I fail to get over 1 digit of engagement anywhere despite drawing only fanart, using tags and interacting with others.
I've got the feeling for years that social media that are oriented to resharing (reblogs, retweets, etc.) and that aren't only artist-exclusive (which successful artists like, obviously, because it gives them wider reach and everyone else follows suit), it's hard for anyone whose art isn't at the level of those ex-URSS countries + China art schools. Because normies don't want to put in their pages something amateurish unless it's a meme. Because of this I started trying to improve even more, with serious resources like books, pirated tutorials, pose packs, varying styles and subjects.
But I came to a point where I started to question myself why I do this: I don't sell art, and nothing of what I post gets the kind of engagement I want. It might be a sunk cost fallacy because I've just been drawing for so many years and I'm scared to give up, but at the same time I know it's a daily waste of time that doesn't even make me happy or helps me be less lonely, like it used to.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn't quit? What other hobbies could I use to replace art that will help me connect to people with similar interests online? Without art my accs stand out even less and my writing does poorly too. I can't believe I mourn fucking Deviantart to the point of tears.
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I don't know if anyone here is a gallery artist but can anyone relate?
>pay anywhere from $50 to $150 to apply for residencies and judged art shows
>get rejected from all of them except one
I know rejection is the most likely outcome for these things but I hate feeling exploited since my application fees are being used for the stipends and the prize money for the winners. I know I need to try to get used to rejection but it's hard, man. Makes me not want to continue. Shit is so fucking gay.
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Does anyone know what brush this is for the line art?
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I LOST MY WAICOM PEN FUCK MY RETARD BAKA LIFE FUCKKKKKK.. I dont even fucking know how to set it up and its $74 on amazon. Fuck
No. 2410674
>>2410660Yes kek. I think back a lot on Baylee jae, I never had a vendetta against her or anything but god looking at her art at her “peak” when she was in the youtube artists collective or whatever it was called, the pieces she made were so fucking shit, but definitely drove me hard to improve. Looking back at her copic shit, the way she fucking abused those markers makes me cringe, like watching a kid just absolutely pouring ink on the paper. There are others who also had that semi-disney, formless, doughy art, but not many come to mind, but that style seemed inescapable at the time. But hey, at least they served as a inspiration to not let myself stagnate.
No. 2410733
>>2410559You can draw from scratch, you just need to identify what part of your drawing looks retarded and do studies to fix that. There's no law saying you need to do sketches and outlines first.
>>2410674>semi-disney, formless, doughy artGrim days. It's shifted from knockoff SU to knockoff Hazbin and I'm not sure which one's worse.
No. 2410793
>>2409538whole video is a bunch of nothing, glad the comments are rightfully tearing her apart. also the cookie run music in the background is pissing me off.
I really need these mediocre zoomer artists to stop having opinions in regards to the art "community", especially when it's clear they get their opinions from twitter, tiktok, and youtube
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There's something about this phenomenon that both fascinates and confuses me. 'Representation' making people so happy, with underwhelming and mediocre art - it genuinely baffles me. Are people just really insecure or something? I don't get their reactions. I mean, good for them and the artist. Maybe I am being too judgemental but I am not impressed. I guess I expect more depth when I'm looking at artists' whose brands include being diverse. ) Especially when it comes to cultural representation, and all they do is slap on some flags onto a character and call it a day. Does any nona feel similar ways too? Do you ever think of taking advantage of this for clout (out of curiosity)?
I think that whole 'representation request' shit needs to die though. It's irritating to read and from experience, even more so to get. I would rather these people pick up a pencil and be like a very bad version of that one fat oil painter girl in art school whose favorite art subject seems to be herself. What better form of representation of your group than what you made from your own experiences?
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>>2410795>that one fat oil painter girl in art school whose favorite art subject seems to be herself. which one? both are obnoxious, to the point where i rarely do self portraits anymore because i don't want to appear as narcissistic as these cows.
No. 2410828
>>2410824ayrt,
there are two of them??? Wow okay I see why you don't do self portraits as much. I was referring to the one on the right.
No. 2410855
>>2410824Is this the girl on the right?
There's nothing wrong with doing self portraits, especially for a woman. You sound like a pick-me. Would it be more acceptable for her to do self portraits if she were conventionally attractive?
No. 2410878
>>2410870>>2410855if self portraits are all you do, i think it is narcissistic and shows limited artistic capability. do you have no one in your life you want to capture? is the only interesting thing to you compositionally your own face and body? there's so much beauty in the world outside of the self.
>>2410857projection. i sell plenty of work irl & don't attention whore online about it.
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>>2410878What are your thoughts on this narcissistic uggo? I heard she's a pickme too and her scrote cheated on her.
No. 2410891
>>2410885So would only drawing grapes make you a grape fetishist and people calling you such would be accurate? That's the basis of your argument anon.
Anyone who creates art around a limited subject = obsessed narcissist. Also I didn't call you a pickme so idk. I'm more taken aback on what everyone deems "narcissism" today. Self-portraits have been around forever.
No. 2410923
>>2410795The girl on the right has nothing to do with this. I think you're exaggerating when it comes to self portraits specifically. Humans have done it for thousands of years and I'm glad a talented girl her age is successful from it.
>and all they do is slap on some flags onto a character and call it a day.They don't care about all that. By the amount of shit pitches that get posted in this thread with multiple racial stereotypes but woke and shit writing, they're not concerned about quality. What the average representation autist wants is a mirror they can plant themselves in front of and jerk off all day. Everyone else who wants representation deeper than a wikipedia page skim gets ignored
constantly. Who I actually feel bad for are the people like me who want cool characters and power fantasies, and that's it. There are better options than being part of a cali kid's life journey of proving just how much they love minorities.
No. 2410999
>>2408771AYRT
You're so polite omgLemme preface this by saying I know fuckall about traditional media outside of crayons and markers (not even quality ones).
I believe that using a sketchbook is one of those things you can't necessarily fuck up? I'd use it to draw daily. I think another nona had the actual termonology for it but I can't recall, but practicing control over your hand is good with drawing lines repeatedly. You want to use the sketchbook as the cheapest method to establish your basics and also to tackle the fundamentals - line control, hatching, observing reality, breaking things into basic shape, shading, coloring… that kind of stuff. Your first sketchbook will look like absolute ass, and that's why dating your works is important! You gotta keep track of progress to keep motivation moving forward during times of doubt! That's what I tell myself anyway (it gets complicated further in, when progression becomes murkey). During this phase, I'd say, use the cheapest tools imaginable. Once you can draw what you want without the communication between mental visualization and hand-eye coordination being a wall, then you can experiment with traditional media and chew through your wallet.
Looking at the inspirations you posted, I'd day the initial one has a focus on anatomical familiarity, color theory (god help you, that shit is beyond my comprehension), and perspective. Line control there is optional, but could help. The other inspirations look like they're requiring a similar skillset applied differently. Art programs overall are a one-time investment versus traditional media. I could be doing it wrong, but once you net a cheapass tablet (give or take 60 USD), a free art program (Krita for instance) and a laptop that can handle your preferred canvas resolution, you're good until something breaks. Programs like Photoshop and Clip Studio Paint have brushes that can mimic traditional media to an extent, but it's a kind of wild west on the brush settings that look best.
Praying other nonas will pitch in since I probably explained something poorly. Hoard as many tutorials as you can!!!
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>>2409961I've read through R. Yot's Light for Visual Artists, tried the constantly shilled Color & Light by J. Gurney, watched Marco Bucci's 5 minutes to better painting series on YT, and done like 30 consecutive color studies from photography last Fall. I think I've learned to match colors without eye dropper pretty well but that's about it. My values are still shit so I can't even make a B&W drawing work. I think what makes understanding coloring & rendering hard for me is I simply do not enjoy doing it, but that might come from the fact that I'm basically still a beginner at it…
>>2409962>>2410103>>2410683I've neglected doing any master studies of artists I admire tbh, that's been a mistake on my part. Should've focused on that instead of copying photos. I'll do that and try traditional more, thank you.
You are all right, and this realization is what inspired my doompost. If you're a beginner and want to learn art don't do what I did, don't put all eggs in one basket and if you absolutely have to don't let the basket be anatomy. Git good at lighting and composition first, after all that is what makes the artwork whole in the end.
No. 2411426
>>2410886I was going to echo your sentiments too and add. For me it doesn’t matter if the subject is attractive or not. I wouldn’t personally want to buy a painting of the artist unless I knew them. It’s like asking if someone wants to have your selfies. No one wants to see them unless you’re friends.
If one uses their body and face as a placeholder reference I don’t care because the focus isn’t on them and they can usually paint a different face than their own. Artists who focus a lot on themselves in their art tend to be a bit selfish, this can also apply to OCs or fursonas.
>>2410795This representation seems like omg so special. I have medical issues that are never represented. I don’t care.
The scary thing about the top comment (if true) is this girl cut herself at 8 years old.
No. 2411765
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shadman forever ruined dot pupils for me
No. 2411798
>>2408771As someone who lives in small spaces and travels a lot, water-friendly mediums that can be dried and re-wetted are the best for a small space for someone wanting to study color theory.
The color stick mediums (markers, crayons, colored pencils) come in second, but only go so far in studying color mixing and techniques.
Also, watercolor and gouache–especially gouache, can translate into digital painting techniques. If you go for watercolor: it's okay to get cheap paint, but go for the best paper you can afford. It makes a difference.
No. 2411916
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>>2410855>There's nothing wrong with doing self portraits, especially for a woman. You sound like a pick-me. NTA but what do you mean especially for a woman..? Don't you think it's odd that women are much more likely to mostly depict themselves? It feels like a consequence of the constant self-scrutiny, auto-voyeurism and navel gazing that women are socialized into. Not that it's
wrong or narcissistic, every accomplished painter will have a couple self-portraits but female artists who mainly do that leave a weird taste in my mouth.
No. 2411943
>>2411916NTA and I do agree with your points, but I feel like anons are forgetting that in a lot of art students in highschool and higher education in the Anglosphere are encouraged to make art about themselves and the easiest way to do that is a self portrait. The artist in
>>2410855 is only a first year iirc (American school calendars confuse me) and paints other things for her other assignments but she's probably just choosing an easier route to complete schoolwork. In this case it's not that deep and not really a reflection on her and from what I've seen the artist doesn't treat any deeper than "this is my identity" so whatever. Judge her and her practice when she's out of school.
No. 2412373
>>2411943Dunno about others, but my art curriculum in college definitely made me do a self-portrait. And that was against my preference. Maybe some people just enjoy that extra self study?
This is mostly me musing and not contributing to the conversation, but.. I persoanlly don't look in the mirror much. Doing the self portrait made me realize things about myself I wasn't aware of. It's fascinating, capturing what you see that might differ from what others see. I found out I was slightly crosseyed kek
No. 2413587
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Checked in on jubyart and she's still seething about genicecream
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2386745712>claimed that genice has been stealing from her for years, asked her to stop, genice said she couldn't help where she got her inspiration from>juby's art project is deeply spiritual. they're both christians and juby claims that genice was envious by how a witch's cross "showcased her christian values" (genice's words, not juby's), which is why genice stole from juby (in a different stream, i remember juby said genice was trying to 'out-christian' her)>genice was the one who terminated their friendship. juby says she tried to salvage it but genice noped out>their friendship ended in november last year but juby started confronting genice in september>"she ended the friendship just so that she could keep stealing from me">said that genice wanted to get ahead, publish eden's gate first, and never mention that juby helped brainstorm her ideas>"she threw away the friendship because she didn't want to acknowledge in public that she had taken inspiration from my project. that was really the bottom line, because that was all i asked, and she just couldn't do it, even though she privately admitted to it at least 3 times">goes on about the unhinged 10 page manifesto genice wrote after their friendship ended, but still won't show it>only started to notice genice was stealing when she stole from juby's satan oc>juby's only solace is warning people about genice>doesn't need to stalk genice because she has friends keeping tabs on her, has a friend who follows genice's private twitter>won't make a call-out post about genice, is being patient and leaving it to the universe>was the only one that showed interest in genice's eden's gate project, was the only that helped her brainstorm ideas>thinks that she was probably genice's closest friend before their falling outI watched through the entire vod but tbh, most of it is a rehash from her older, deleted vods (>>2319459 ,
>>2330961). I wonder what
triggered her sperging this time. Maybe genicecream talking about how she sold out on store orders? The juxtaposition between juby ranting about genice and genice posting about some charity fundraiser for Gaza refugees is pretty funny
No. 2413591
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>>2413587I went and compared their ocs, and I can see the resemblance. Top is juby's satan oc and bottom is genice's demon oc. Tbh, while I think juby is 100% a cow, I'm not sure if genice is entirely innocent either. It's just that, unlike juby, she is keeping her head low and not sperging out
No. 2413609
>>2413600NTA but yes, I agree. Unless their backstories are really similar, it's color scheme similarity only. But since juby never put out any work, genice is going to win the war on that front since she's publishing Eden's Gate, isn't she?
Unrelated, but I find it funny how juby's oc looks so generic and bland, like I've seen one hundred iterations of it on twitter before. Meanwhile, genice's art looks like coombait slop (to me, at least). All of this fighting in service of what.
No. 2413612
>>2413600Agreed. Juby claims that genice stole other things but she doesn't show any proof at all. I don't understand why she's going on these long rants if she isn't going to provide evidence. She has the manifesto genice sent her and everything
>>2413609I think that's genice's plan but she hasn't mentioned anything about it on her twitter or bluesky recently. If she does publish it, I imagine juby will go nuclear, so maybe she has second thoughts?
No. 2413664
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>>2413591Genice's oc is as much a rip off as both ocs are rip offs of funamusea characters. Colour palette wise they're similar, but that shouldn't really count as juby's character is in a rendered piece where the colours look influenced by the environment. Red highlights on demon character's hair isn't new neither is giving them ashy/darker skin tones.
No. 2413856
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>>2413587kekkkk this bitch is seething, i hope she realizes that backtalking artists like this may blacklist her from the industry, noone likes a liability, even if genicecream turns out the monster she claims she is she has played it smart by keeping quiet kek
No. 2413929
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I want people to shit on my art and dissect how terrible it is and what I need to do to improve. I know there's /ic/ and the art rating thread here, but I'm too scared to be perceived and know as someone who comes here since my art is so clockable. It's to the point where I wish anons would bring up my art somehow and shit on it in a thread kek
No. 2414000
>>2413587>>2413591Wait, she's claiming that the OC below ripped her off?
How? This is another one of those "Red skinned devil girls" debacles where someone uses a very basic design trait that they probably picked off somewhere themselves and are now ridiculously paranoid and insecure about being ripped off themselves. The only connecting trait is the two tone hair and an unusually colored skin, there's literally nothing else connecting them. People like these are seriously the reason why a lot of artists are so afraid to put themselves out there because some schizo starts accusing them of being plagiarists over a nothingburger that nobody should pay two shits worth of attention to.
No. 2414060
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I know Yamato's design leaves a lot to be desired, but the re-designs and "trans men are men" are retarded af
No. 2414096
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>>2414060I will never understand why some wokies and gendies watch anime of all things. The misogyny is often shoved in your face all the time. And One Piece, of all shows? I struggle to understand this behaviour.
I do find it super funny when artists redesign bad designs only to fail just as miserably in a completely different direction. I don't have any One Piece examples because I don't follow that fandom, but I do have these memorable genshit redesigns.
No. 2414138
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>>2414098>>2414108I'm actually sorry I'm derailing from One Piece, OG nona, but Genshit is so full of actual trash redesigns it's all I have to share. I think it's quite interesting how wokies often get so woke they circle back into discrimination again. I feel like it's only racism that gets (sometimes) called out, since gender ideology is so insane and wobbly, you can get away with anything if you phrase it right.
Picrel to illustrate. The left image is the new cow character Varesa in Genshit, yet another terrible official design. The middle image is a TikToker apologising for editing Varesa's sprite in a redesign and giving Varesa vitiligo, which raised eyebrows since people with vitiligo are often called cows as an insult.
I found the last image, I shit you fucking not, one minute into searching on Tumblr for Varesa redesigns. This is so racist I can't even process it.
No. 2414149
>>2414135You just have to cut that out of your system.
sorry but really, I don't see what's the big deal of doing the same thing over and over again, social media has made us believe that we need to constantly reinvent ourselves and follow any trends that exists because reasons I guess.
If you're happy with the results of your art then don't stop, just do what makes you happy, it's not like you will get throw to jail because of some edgy stuff, as long as you're not making stuff like babies or the sort getting harmed, then it's not really a big deal.
No. 2414181
>>2414152I think to make a proper redesign, you do have to like the character to a certain extent. It helps ground it to the character and not just a vague sense of representation or modesty.
The best "censorship" redesigns I've seen were when people loved the content but didn't care much for skin or didn't like
how they censored the character in adaptions so they gave it a try.
No. 2414209
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>>2414096I just don't get how they end up making the characters so unappealing. Fat and/or ugly characters have great grounds for some fun shape design, but instead they just form the same, boring blobs.
No. 2414279
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>>2414138>Is not racism in the name of inclusionThey, in their mind.
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>>2414138This is the only redesign I've found of her that I like
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>>2414269Samefag, I looked at the image and reacted before reading the post kek my bad. Though there is something hilariously ironic about people redesigning her en-masse because they find her design stereotypical, yet they seem to almost immediately default to “she’s a cow, therefore she must have vitiligo”. And weren’t they upset about mihoyo making a “fatter” character a cow who loves to eat? Why do they keep making her fat then?
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When doing studies, should you follow it 100% ? Sometimes I just sort of use it as a guideline and then just eye it and do my own thing a bit, but I don’t know if that would negatively effect my “eye” so to speak. I think I’m also kind if afraid of “stealing” someone else’s style or that I won’t actually learn to draw it and just learn to copy. Maybe I’m overthinking it?
No. 2414476
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>>2414138Literally circling back into the mammy stereotype. I don't know if OP is American, but depicting black women as obese, unfeminine, lower class and poor (why is she naked in the redesign!?) against skinny, light skinned, rich women has incredibly racist roots. Is it so hard to draw dark skinned women as conventionally attractive. It's fantasy art, you can draw whatever you want, and the wokies draw the ugliest people imaginable like real life
POC like to be represented as uglies in fictional art.
No. 2414489
>>2414138PLEASE add this design into genshin lmfao
The vitiligo as analogous to cow pattern was actually kind of clever and that's the one thing I don't dislike. The rest is giving uh… national geographic in a not good way
No. 2414519
>>2414138Vitiligo being used in this kind of redesign (or tumblr style character designs) is always funny in an ironic way to me because they never even do it right from the "muh representation" angle of it. Vitiligo usually appears on the extremities of the body (hands, feet, nose, eyes and lips) but almost every time I see artists draw vitiligo they just draw it really random, not to mention, for this case, every single woke adjacent / social awareness type thing I see from people with actual vitiligo is about how they hate vitiligo being used as a simile to animal spots. It's interesting seeing these types of redesigns being so disconnected from a part of the discourse they're trying to take part in.
>>2414476Yeah, I agree. Usually when anons accuse random ugly blakwashed redesigns of being racists I think it's annoying and blatant concern trolling, but the jump from "pastel e girl looking chubby cow girl with some mexican culture inspiration" to "morbidly obese almost naked black woman with some ??vaguely african tribal looking accessories" is just jarring.
No. 2414583
>>2414565NTA but honestly they just shouldn't call those patches vitiligo in the first place, like
>>2414519 said it's not even accurate to how vitiligo actually is. In fact piebaldism is way closer to what they draw than vitiligo.
No. 2414629
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>>2414326If it's Africa, I don't know why the recolors don't hard correct into that strangely appealing thing other eastern artists do all the time like picrel
I personally would love to see that, but I duck at color picking.
No. 2414979
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as somebody who loves frame-by-frame animation and does it myself for fun sometimes, the rise of extremely shitty and lazy tweening animation memes gross me out so much. i dont even think tweening is bad, it can be great, but this shit is so lazy most of them are just one or two images in the whole animation. the fuck? it almost makes me not want to bother with my frame-by-frame animation because people will eat up lazy shit anyways lol
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>>2414853Specially when most of the characters have dark skin to "show vitiligo better" but you know is for brownie points.
No. 2415094
>>2414979I'm not really mad about this stuff, I'm moreso just really confused why they even bother with making animation memes when a lot of the memes are just… head bopping. So much head bopping. What even is the point? That doesn't even look fun to animate and it's boring af once you have seen the other 2000 animation memes with head bopping. I'm surprised I don't see more dumb dances or whatever.
I do have beef with how
atrocious a lot of the trending music is for animation memes though.
No. 2415175
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Nonnies, do you feel like there are racist tendencies in the woke side of the art community that really rub you the wrong way? Watching people virtue signal while doing dumb shit pisses me off, such as;
- Drawing dark skin without a smidge of lighting so you can actually see what's going on. Maybe they could at least try to change the lineart colour to change the value contrast, jfc.
- Blackwashing characters who aren't even white, especially Asians (e.g. Genshit and Demon Slayer). The thing that pisses me off about this isn't actually the race change, but the fact they often don't even try to incorporate any black culture. It's literally just racebending and nothing more, keeping all the Asian aesthetics, hakama, katana, etc. without the actual Asian. It's insulting, there is so much potential for representing black culture (so many cultures to choose from too!) but they do not even try most of the time.
- Weirdly specific race mixes (picrel). I cannot explain this easily since rare race mixes exist irl and my irritation at this feels unfair. But at a certain point I think it's actually detrimental to the goal of representation. Who the fuck can relate to being such a rare mix? Being mixed usually doesn't mean you get to represent two groups at once, since a lot of mixed people feel torn between their races and struggle to feel accepted by both sides/finding balance. I would say more but this is already an essay. If you've ever hung out with woke OCfags you might have seen a lot of random ass combinations and will get what I mean.
Do you guys have any pet peeves too?
No. 2415456
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i am so disillusioned again. i tried studying anatomy, breaking down some poses i found on pinterest and the end result is so shit, it doesn't remotely look like the pose i was looking at. i know i won't git gud after what, two days? but how the FUCK does the rest of the world manage to improve at a faster rate? some 14 year old tiktoker skinwalking brujo ari is leaps above me, and i have so much to improve i get overwhelmed on where to start. i'm doing anatomy first because it helps with stylization, i guess. i like drawing, i enjoy it a lot, but it's like i picked the wrong hobby.
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>>2415175I've been seeing this one get called out more and more thankfully, but artists always making more masculine/aggressive/fat/muscular characters dark skinned. And they're often shipped with lighter skinned characters that are skinny/feminine/dainty like some softcore raceplay porn (picrel as an example)
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>>2414138>third oneI've never understood why there are people who do this. Why couldn't they draw her cute, or even slightly similar to the original in style or color palette? It's not hard to draw or design a cute black/African character. If anything, it's more offensive that their idea of "correcting" imagery that erases a certain group necessarily means making the character obese and decidedly not cute. Why is their idea of "diversity" always unappealing? It feels like a long-running racist joke lol
No. 2415599
>>2414979I agree with you, but TBF one of the most famous and oldest animation memes is Caramelldansen, which often were just 2 drawings (one for the up motion, one for the down one + mirrored to the other side). Vidrel only half-counts because it has more going on, but you get the motion. Others like Nya dance and Burnt Rice were fame animation, but just the same short loop for 2 minutes.
I fell off animation memes at around 2015 because they got boring, but I feel the importance/work of them has shifted from knowing how to draw frame-by-frame to knowing how to add 9485 effects and tweening effectively. As someone who knows how to do the former but keeps failing on the later, I do have some respect for these kids kek.
I miss how long some memes were though, like paroding openings/MVs (Azumanga Daioh OP, Popipo, Cirno's Math class…) or just full videos even if they weren't animated at all (Convenience Store).
No. 2415606
>>2415175>Who the fuck can relate to being such a rare mix The people with that rare race mix obviously? That's the point? That perhaps even if it's just one person, that they'll see an art piece with them in it and see a person that's partly like themselves in art for the first time
>Being mixed usually doesn't mean you get to represent two groups at onceEven if people only see you as one, that doesn't make you not mixed race?
Also I don't understand why you grouped this habit they have as racist. What about this is racist?
No. 2415622
>>2415606>and see a person that's partly like themselves in art for the first timeWhy does that have to be a race thing though? Why can't someone look at art and relate to a character because their personality or aesthetic is similar? Or their backstory is similar to the viewer's life? It's weird for someone to assume that a character is "like themselves" just because they're the same race, yeah? Isn't that, I don't know, a little racist?
Although tbh I don't care too much about the weird race mixes and disability virtue signalling. This is just Gen Z's version of the half-angel-half-devil vampire witch OCs that proliferated the internet 20 years back.
No. 2415693
>>2415175Isn't a post like this more suitable for petty chronically online threads like the fandom drama or the bad art one in /m/? I'm honestly so tired of these constant "fellas i saw this they/them brown vitiligo oc it's so cringe right??? or is it just me???" groundhog day happening over and over again and I can't imagine anyone over the age of 19 being interested in having this same discussion every other day.
>>2415606It's so unserious though, these people get all smug saying "just go create your own representation instead of demanding others to do it for you!" and when you pull yourself up by your bootstraps you get ridiculed and laughed at for doing so. I get that often it's done for woke brownie points but like the one in that anon's picrel is so inoffensive that who actually gives a fuck. I would like to see more people of my own ethnicity and more masculine female characters but if I go ahead and create them I get called a narcissist who thinks she's too good for the feminine anglo straight white girl protagonist. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, we all know how sincere their concern for "fetishizing all these groups" is.
No. 2415846
>>2415816Let her live a little, Jesus. Unless she's drawing herself like a toddler then it's not a big deal if her self-portraits or self-inserts are skinny and cute.
Or do you want her to only draw ugly shit like
>>2414138It's seriously not a big deal, people will idealize shit because that's literally the point of art, to make ideal shit, not a 1:1 representation of reality.
No. 2415954
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how do you use any kind of color palette without making the drawing look terrible? Do most artists pick colors from the wheel or abuse filters?
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/beg/-on-/beg/ violence kek
No. 2416237
>>2416082>goofy ahYou can say ass on lolcow. no need to use that retarded shit
>>2416008I…dont understand why she needed to sick
unless it's because Mexican food spicy=sick have a completely normal dream? It wasn't even a fever dream
No. 2416304
>>2415816Why wouldn't she be ok? As long as she doesn't think she looks like that, I think it's ok. No one wants to draw ugly things/people (…sans the woke brownie points teens mentioned above kek) and much less represent yourself in an unflattering way.
Self-instert/personas are an idealized version of yourself or what you want to be, it's normal.
No. 2416456
>>2415504i don't wanna draw like her but i do have to admit the way she draws clothes is really nice
>>2415973iirc this was ragebait and this was just a remake, the artist is the same for both. what the fuck happened to her face in the first two slides though
No. 2416784
>>2416336I hate troons and for that reason I'm not drawing anything about them, even if negative. A lot of my art and ocs feature biology and genetics and just drawing dimorphic features and organs as they are without commentary is enough. I have a couple ocs I pour my misandry into but it's complicated. My art is for me, made by me, it is entirely selfish and inserting political beliefs into it would be strange because I can engage with that through other means and it's not really fun.
>>2416495>>2416410>>2416484Okay, but there's a slew of anons who don't want to integrate so if you talk like one, expect to be treated like one. You are anonymous and if it walks like a duck…
No. 2417268
>>2416365I agree TIFs don't seem to be the most discerning of demographics in general.
>>2416417Ew moids are dumb as fuck. I hate how TIMs get extra coddled online too.
>>2416457Levels of based I haven't seen before.
>>2416508>>2416784I see your points nonnies, always interesting to see other perspectives!
No. 2417326
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This might be the wrong thread (might be more for the fandom thread) but did anyone see this post? Was this something Brujo posted about Kate?
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>>2417326Are people turning on Brujo now? I'd like to see how someone whose overly dedicated to pleasing the brain dead part of her audience handles this
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>>2417326I wish I snagged a screenshot of when it happened. People are already going “poor Brujo English isn’t her first language”
No. 2417446
>>2416784It took a bit of back and forthing over it when I was younger, but this is what I decided on as well. I just won't give them the attention. It's not like there aren't hundreds of thousands of other artists who ignore all of this.
Plus, if you put troons in your work for whatever reason, it'll make your stuff seem dated once this all dies out in the near future.
And thank god I never ended up putting any work out during my handmaiden phase. No. 2417801
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>>2417799I say this because I love you so much- reverse image search.
No. 2417863
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Kek which one of you is this
No. 2418345
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i was recommended this artist on my explore page kek i'm stunned this isnt from like 2002-2005 with the katy coope ass how to draw manga style. i could understand a couple year difference but 11 years into modern times is unbelievable. if you told me these images were from angelfire or gaia online i'd have believed you. the anatomy got worse in 11 years too, how tf?
No. 2418519
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>>2418518>selling in artist alley for 7 years>7 YEARSwhos…buying that art? and god damn
No. 2418525
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>>2418345>>2418519Oh god she's selling this exact image as a print too
No. 2418557
>>2418384I don't know why vegans are so fucking anti-egg, like yes factory farming is awful but you typically don't eat egg chickens because they're way leaner than meat chickens, and if they're being looked after well they lay a bajillion eggs. "This is disgusting" I mean they eat their own and other hen's eggs unless they're broody they don't care.
>>2418345Consequences of not studying or not studying correctly and pervasive symbol drawing.
No. 2418819
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Ive noticed that a lot of young artists tend to remove their age once they hit their twenties.
It makes me feel less bitter about talented young artists because while the art may be impressive to achieve at a young age, if they don't develop beyond that, their art will just become the same hyper-render animu art everyone and their mother does nowadays.
makes me wonder how achooshi is doing after she was essentially chased off the internet
No. 2418876
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On one hand, the first tweet was dumb, and the worship of brujoari is kind of dumb. But also twitter is so autistic kek damn, can artists do anything
No. 2419279
>>2419277in a better world she could detrans both and have alex be a butch lesbian but thats too scary for a genderspecial queerio
no her bimbofied genderbend TIM AU of alex does not count
No. 2419564
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>>2419508I wasn't being snarky and I found out who the artist was with reverse image search myself. It's edrw who got chased off social media a few years ago.
No. 2419586
>>2419508NTA but I don't think she was trying to be snarky. We're getting a lot of new users who can barely google info for themselves. If you were a younger anon, you would have discovered a valuable tool from her response.
No need to be defensive, especially since when you said you couldn't find with reverse image search, she provided the artist's name just now. It's chill.
No. 2419735
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anyone has advice on how to draw caricatures? cartoon designs of real people in general. I want to learn how to draw something outside of what I typically do. I've been practicing with people I know but I still struggle.
No. 2419794
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I like Brujoari's art and respect her as an artist. I wish she would detrans and drop the gender shit from her art, but she's achieved success and popularity with her Jojo OCs which is very difficult to do. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and Brujoari LARPers are a dime a dozen, like them or not. I don't think she's a god-tier artist but I also respect LavenderTowne for making it and her art sucks imo
No. 2419809
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>>2419794Sad to see, the original drawing is definitely closer to the 2000s cartoon style she's aiming for. Colors were brighter, line art was cleaner. This is probably because she keeps trying to appeal to coomers and it's fucking up her art, if you go to the quote retweets of her Kate drawings you'll see nothing but people lusting after her it's kind of bleak.
No. 2419842
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>>2419829It shouldn't blackpill you considering how many men draw terrible pear shaped booba fotw girls and get like 100k likes. Picrel has 126k likes
No. 2419852
>>2419847They're both godawful but for differing reasons. One downplays SA
victims and their trauma by turning them into a fetish. The other reduces real people into labels to gain more brownie points in the oppression gymnastics without considering logic in their art. But at the end of the day, one actually harms people while other is harmless tumblr crap that'll pass. Remember when tumblr sexy men were all the rage? They still are but not to that degree during the 2010s.
No. 2419880
>>2419820Typically it means you're just drawing lines or symbol shapes without considering why they're there or what 3d shape or sense of space you're trying to create. Like you don't draw the eye of your subject but what you think you know an eye looks like. If that makes sense?
Also does any Nona struggle to find artists they want to do master studies on? I have a few, but while looking for more to vary my style I realize I'm kinda picky? I tend to oscillate between really detailed angular semi realism to hyper cartoony Y2K inspo like Jinx88. However, I have a hard time finding artists where I go "Oh! If only I could draw like THAT!"
No. 2419883
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>>2419880you mean something like picrel?
No. 2419896
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>>2419842picrel has 54k likes. Its really not a matter of skill just of luck and pandering to coomers
No. 2419937
>>2419933I fear i do that…I've been putting off studying for so long cause I had a complex growing up and now I feel my art stagnating compared to people the same age as me.
does anyone know if the morpho anatomy books are available online?
No. 2420272
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>>2419753>>2419564You people act like she stopped posting forever when she's been active on twitter this year. She just turned to egyptian mythology
No. 2420456
>>2419839True. It just still feels shitty to spend hours on a drawing only for some retard to get that many likes by tracing over AI. I don't make likes my only reason for drawing but it's so gross.
>>2419842That blackpills me too, both of these things are awful.
No. 2420496
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>>2419842>>2419852unfortunately this is not the worst Anya art
No. 2420510
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>>2420431Try to limiting your color palette. The artist in picrel starts with six main colors and goes from there
No. 2420587
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>>2420544nonna here is my autistic guide for what i do, i am not epic artist but this is works well enough for me. hope you find it slightly useful
No. 2420595
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>>2418819tbh achooshi was only good at choosing atmospheric colors more than anything, the character at the top blends together with background
No. 2420874
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I was one of those retards when AI first came out who thought AI wasn't going to be like how it is in dystopian fiction. I actually argued in artist salt, but now? Honestly, it seems like there is no hope in the future. All art is like film, music, animation, dying, and/or dead. Unless people start pulling a Luigi Mangione more often, there will be no one held accountable. That or countries start getting stricter on this. How is anyone supposed to find any hope?
The only beacon of hope maybe is that the UK government has a petition website with some ai regulation petitions on there. One including it's ban from creative media. But even then I'm not a britbong so I don't know how effective this website really is.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/704291 No. 2420888
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>>2419794i wish she'd stop turning to her audience for assurance for what kates gendersoup should be, she crumbles the very moment someone questions kate's multipronouns. she makes posts like these every other week.
No. 2420896
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>>2419735I've found this to be a helpful book on caricatures.
No. 2420921
>>2418345Late but this reminded me of a minor art cow (not even a cow really) SaphiraDraca or something like it. She designed elaborate KH inspired furries and the shading was similar to this post. She was like a quaint sparkle dog who enjoyed her neon rainbow characters.
I miss Gaia art sometimes kek.
No. 2420998
>>2420773A good counter to cultural appropriation is cultural appreciation. She was respectful and researched her topic, which is hard to do because of inane gate keeping. I don’t think cultures should be gate kept by artist who do research and are respectful. Twitards though hate success and style and they mobbed her to quit that niche.
It’s quite annoying and makes artists not want to touch any other cultures with that online response.
No. 2421036
>>2420888At this point just making a poll to vote on Kate's label and pronouns would be less embarrassing and confusing for her. It would go terribly of course, but I don't know how long Brujo can keep up this 'have your cake and eat it too' thing with Kate's gender either.
>>2420950I think it would be based if she detransed Kate but I haven't seen any big artists detrans their OCs before.
No. 2421102
>>2421063Nonnie I'm not sure how realistic that is at this point. AI has been seeping into real life advertisements and now we have AI influencers. Its being shoved in our faces everywhere on almost every platform. On TikTok there are artists who use this AI app to create 360 turn around videos of their OCS. Ai videos becoming more realistic. I'd like to hope it plays out in that way or gets banned but I don't know at this point.
No. 2421117
>>2421102AYRT Oh that is henous. Genuinely haunted. On the bright side, I might be right about AI in the art world, but not so much outside of it. Might have to have this issue in every field for it to pass over like a cold? I want to say it's different for art because AI bros only have a hyperfixation on specific art styles, while neglecting more niche ones. This… imitation of life feels… Hm.
I'm just glad I don't use TikTok kek
No. 2421121
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>>2421036"Detransition" is funny because Kate doesn't even transition its just woo-woo gaslighting and a double mastectomy. I gotta get better at doing her style till I don't need to look at her posts anymore to reference them.
No. 2421261
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>>2415175Honestly nona, I partially disagree with your last point since I’m a weird ethnic mix myself. What I will say is that these people could stand to do a little more research into historical immigration patterns to find pairings that are more likely to be based in reality. For example, one of my grandparents came to the UK via the Windrush generation, while the other side came from Europe due to new free movement laws for EU citizens. It’s not hard to do a quick google search, and if nothing else it will probably give their character a more interesting background to work with.
No. 2421362
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>>2421360>we're all gonna be mixed race in the futureand drive flying cars and live in castles on the moon
>why fight itPeople already "fight it" by expressing certain dominant traits over others, the same way they have for millennia and beyond
No. 2421371
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>>2421368People already have mixed ancestry from the silk road and all sorts of other intermingling. Futurologists always say we're going to be short faggy blob people but they really have no idea what they're talking about, don't buy into their malarky nona
(derailing) No. 2421454
>>2421448That's irl though, I'm just saying if you're going to pander atleast pander uniquely like this artist
>>2419564 but maybe I'm being too optimistic about it I just think it's a lost opportunity to truly create some unique character design
No. 2421853
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>>2421825NTA but yes and no, they want art from a specific artist so commission them, if they have a parasocial relationship with the artist the idea of the artist spending time on art for them and thinking of them is highly appealing.
>>2421454I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at but researching both historical and
modern history of a nationality and ethnicity and drawing them like normal people is enough. If you're drawing contemporary people you should you draw them in contemporary fashion, and the type of people who draw them in American egirl fashion probably aren't trying to make something based in the past where traditional clothing would be worn.
>>2421839Kek, right? Three years late to the party, and I wonder why now because the signs that this would happen were always there.
No. 2421856
>>2421825That's a part, but not all of it to be honest. While AI gets better and better, for example it can't replicate small/nododies' artstyle completely, or maybe you want some very specific things AI can't get down.
There's also the feeling of luxury or cozyness that having art made specially for you gives someone. Kind of like buying a pre-made chocolate cake VS ordering one or having a friend bake it for you.
No. 2421908
>>2419829Yeah, even people who criticize AI art seem to be more openly accepting of tracing/"heavily referencing" AI art.
>>2420874The only people that will maybe get stronger protections are live-action and voice actors, as it's easier to demand real identity association to prove they are the model/voice.
But with AI art, it's not likely for them to demand proof across the board of all companies to not utilize it.
Also, props to good artists with unique styles that have had their content used to train art models, and have somehow managed to maintain their sanity.
No. 2421930
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>>2421919nona stop coping, i was never referring to ai porn. i keep seeing ai images that are so detailed to the point where you just know that no human could ever replicate it because most people simply don't have the time and skill to do so. even pic related isn't one of the top tier stuff ai i've seen but it's still better than like 95% of all rendering styles i've seen. i remember the seethe this image caused on twitter because an artist got "exposed" to tracing it, but i'm still enchanted by the style and subtle coloring.
tracing from ai can be another gray area, if the image isn't 100% replicated from a clear source like some ai images (the ones where the image barely changed and you can overlay both images and it'll be a perfect match), then it's not really being stolen from anyone
(ai outside of containment) No. 2421934
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dont let the aishill doomers get to you nonas, art has never been a skill and career for the weak willed and no matter how much stealing and contributing to ai cp they do they can never draw anything with a real pencil, keep drawing
No. 2421940
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>>2421930NTA but I honestly don't care what AI does, it's the only thing that "death of the author" actually applies because while an actual artist may never post their work and/or they've lost their art they'll still remember it and the process they used to make it for years upon years, that art still exists and still has emotional value. Meanwhile anything a promptard doesn't post rots on a hard drive forever, if you generate dozens of the same images you're unlikely to remember one in detail, there's no emotional connection to it and unimpressive because a minimum amount of effort was placed into it, and it ceases to exist off the internet. Also unlike AI I'm not wasting resources by making retarded shit using my second hand art supplies, and if I don't like it later I can paint over it or shred it and make a new piece of paper out of or use it as fertiliser.
No. 2421961
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what are nonas' favorite art youtubers? like who gives the best and/or most accurate advice and tutorials? sorry if this question has been asked before but i don't want to dig through past threads for a concrete answer. i don't mind moid youtubers as long as they're good and can prove it.
>>2421891ily nonita
>>2420896KEK
No. 2421989
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>>2417799>>2419564Name on Twitter is Eda_Log
>>2420265I really miss their native American inspired work.
No. 2422051
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>>2421961I've been watching excal's art tips, his shorts are easy to understand and he explains every oddly specific part of the human body as well as pointing out the mistakes and how to fix them. Recommend if you want to study anatomy.
Prokotv is also good
No. 2422068
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>>2421989Now I remember this Korean artist who does formline art. I can understand why Native artist do have that reaction considering their history, but if someone isn't claiming "my grandma was a Cherokee princess" or claim he's from the NWP area, then he's appreciating the art, not claiming something is not his.
Then again, he should get an opinion about his formline because some shapes are not supposed to be there.
No. 2422244
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>>2421872I agree with artists that it is harming them and stealing from them, but I'm also on your boat. I get ai art on my pinterest searches and if I'm not quick to filter it, I'll see it on my home feed. And yeah I find some of the stuff inspiring. I'm not going to make a thousand excuses or something, I just find some of the works appealing. I don't have an interest in human figures or animals though. I like the more compositional pieces, and before I realized they were ai, I got hooked on the dark fantasy tag. I don't think they mog actual artists or something and I don't think they are somehow more entrancing than actual artist pieces there are just some works that are eye catching and inspire me like a human rendered piece.
No. 2422286
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>>2422051>excalibladerNo offense but I don't think you should be taking advice from this guy. His flat, unrendered drawings he posts give off Deviantart fetish autist vibes and the way he shades looks terrible. His forms are really uncanny looking and not nearly good enough to be making tutorials for other people
No. 2422330
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>>2422320
Its honestly insane to me how lazy and stupid zoomies are considering they are born with alexandria's library on their palms. They fact they are so retarded they think regurgitated AIslop stolen from better artists is ackshually better than anything handmade!!1! proves they are beyond stupid and have the attention span of a goldfish. God, how i hate them.
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>>2421121if the show blows up is she going to melt down and blame the fans or herself? cause there's way more annoying questions on the way.
No. 2422401
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>>2421872I do the same, nonna. I know people complain about the AI messing with the algorithm but most of the art in there are so stunning, it makes me want to learn how to make my own version. Even if it makes me sounds like
>>2422330(ai outside of containment) No. 2422415
>>2422401Anon you don't sound like
>>2422330 at all, whose post includes an illustration made by an actual human who had a sense of imagination and whimsy. And you've yet to post any examples of good AI art that aren't close ups of generic bishies or pieces that look like they went through a dozen photoshop filters.
No. 2422427
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>>2422401If you look at this for more than 10 seconds it makes no sense. For one the dragon/ogre's body is blending into uggo's hair like Van Gool's Beast's fur coat but shit.
No. 2422446
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>>2422434>I am not wasting years of my life to learn sculpting or dropping money on someone to make a figurine of a character i wanted??
No. 2422454
>>2422434Why are you even in the Artist Salt thread if you're not motivated to make art? Don't you have a prompt to write while stagnating and never learning anything? The AI is so lonely anon, feed it prompts anon…
>>2422447You're ngmi, you want to look at a picture of a figurine of a character you didn't design.
No. 2422460
>>2422454Oh I'm sorry, is crafting figurines the only art that counts? Macrame and crochet isn't art because you say so? Neither is oil painting? Or street graffiti? Or nature photography? Or cake decorating? Or shoe design? Or digital paper dolls?
I never said what art I am interested in just that sculpting was not it cheif.
No. 2422471
I now realize those other two are baiting tards. I posted
>>2422244. I don't think ai art is some magical creation above human art, I'm just not going to lie that I find some of the ai stuff I see inspiring. I'm not baiting like the person above, I'm just being gratingly honest.
No. 2422580
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What is even happening here? I know AI can't figure hands worth a damn but my eyes genuinely don't understand what the huge ass finger is supposed to be doing and where the rest of the hand is.
No. 2422640
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I'm going to paint in broad strokes, but I imagine each generation have different priorities and sacrifices that the other generations will judge them for it. Our parents will tell us we're lazy, soft and entitled for having more boundaries about relationships and jobs. But because we were born in a much more comfortable and convenient period, we could prioritize our health and wellness (not saying we're not lazy though, kek.)
The younger tiktok generation started prioritizing efficiency over effort, purpose and meaning. This was a thing even before AI, kids shamelessly tracing art or copying compositions 1:1, meme redraws. I've seen them make webtoon and just copy paste assets everyone else uses even if it makes them indistinguishable. They don't care about having original ideas or vision just as long as it results to a beautiful picture in the end. I remember when studies would get ignored in deviantart because it didn't take as much skill as coming up with your own composition and problem solving, and now just slap your anime yaois into Leyendecker and win social media. I really hope we reestablish the importance of identity in art.
No. 2422738
>>2422612>i want to start posting enough art regularly for engagement This is your first mistake. If you want to draw daily, a part of it for practice, the pressure of having to post it daily/semi-daily for likes will kill your motivation. If you draw daily, just 40% of drawings will be "worthy" of likes (and this is if you finish each drawing the day yoy start them), if you want tk improve you will have to draw a bunch of random lines, cubes and random objects that no one on twitter cares to see.
I'm on a similar boat as you (my dream is to be one of these accounts that are super autistic about a specific character and all they do is to post art of them every 2 days, but I can't draw humas to save myself yet) and to be honest the only solution is to decide when and for how long you will draw each day and stick to it even if you don't want to, set an alarm on your phone and threw it out the second it rings to pick up a pencil.
Funny enough, videos on the similar vein of "2025: How to REALLY start go to the gym and #glowup this 2025" have been motivating to me because even if the focus is completely different, the goal is the same (start an habit that might unmotivate you at time, to continue it, how to progress, etc) so some of their tricks and mindset are useful.
Right now I draw for 1 hour daily 5 days a week, I use 30mins to fundies and the other 30 minutes to draw freely stuff I like. I learn slower than a snail, but a little bit is better than nothong.
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>>2422720>>2422691God yes, once you start looking at real art and knowing the process behind it and historical context there's no way you'd be able to be wowed by AI images unless you're a actual retard (and going out of your way to find this information,
no tiktok videos or non-certified art teacher videos allowed.) You can look closely at a real painting and see the strokes and intricacies of the colours and the small details that are unnecessary yet complete the painting wonderfully, if you do that to an AI image you just see fuck ups and lossy jpeg compression.
No. 2422797
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>>2422401this art was made by a real person and it looks better than 90% of ai slop
No. 2422807
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>>2422797ruan jias course is amazing too cant believe he used to draw this level of quality on a fucking 2010 photoshop
No. 2422853
>>2422849of course real art looks like AI, how do you think AI images are made?
>art stylenevermind you're a tiktok kid
No. 2422872
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>>2422853>nevermind you're a tiktok kidHow did you manage to say that to the one person in the world who has never been on tiktok? You're seeing ghosts everywhere.
No. 2422873
>>2422860are these memorable then?
>>2422401 >>2421930
>>2422244anyway, it's telling that you only care about the girl's face
No. 2422906
Holy cope, the amount of people thinking their slop art is ever going to matter. If the internet is already occupied by a bunch of flavorless anime-derivatives you seriously think your art is worthy of creating and sharing?
>>2421930Absolutely based. It makes digital “artists” seethe whenever AI looks exactly like their art pieces because nothing the AI does it entirely different to what digital artists do, which is why I truly don’t think it’s art and is it’s own thing. AI will genuinely get better at reconfiguring the parts and putting them together to make it look more natural and seamless, these copers know their time is up and that they should’ve known their art is as fake as the moon landing and should’ve found a different skill a long time ago. They’re bitching and moaning about the usage of AI when AI has been here for a long time, now it’s being fully integrated and developed into the most intuitive spaces: the internet. They’re mad they have to compete with robots who actually aren’t doing things all that different to the humans kek
(bait) No. 2422909
>>2422872She's seething so much kek, imagine doing mental gymnastics to try outsmart people on an anonymous board being that important to you.
I'm not even gonna bother replying anymore, go to Twitter to farm interactions or something.
No. 2422912
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Do any of you have an artist that you despise as a person (because they're a pedo or have retarded believes) but their art is so undeniably good and definitely up to your taste that you hate them for it?
For me it has to be that Korean incel mossacannibalis. I had the misfortune of seeing his disgusting lolicon art on baraag (which was discussed here on LC but I forgot which thread), he's your typical scrote "hurr durr" black comedy edgelord—and I fucking despise how good his art is. The historical anesthetics are something I like, the sketchy line art, the rather grainy rendering, the character designs… they're good and I hate him for it. Why couldn't his talent have gone to another person who isn't into ryona guro lolicon? Jfc
Another one that I hate-as-a-person-but-love-their-art is jcm2 (picrel). He's just like mossa (pedo edgelord) only Latino. He had this cool little pet project called "Helter Skelter" which I assumed was going to be a webcomic before he abandoned it to draw flavor of the month waifus. Also an unironic Loud House waifufag.
Seeing these types of people doing good art that fits my taste fills me with rage. I hate it so much.
No. 2422924
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>>2422912Suprised to see jcm2 mentioned on here of all places but yeah I agree. He's really good at referencing other art styles but the shit he draws makes me actually nauseous.
She gets mentioned here a lot but TBrainrot is one of my biggest
problematic faves. She's a loli/shotafag who got kicked out of her fandoms for being a "
TERF" (I mean considering the shit she drew I doubt she was a radfem, just transphobic). Her art is so beautiful, her more normal art has so much sovl, you can really feel the love being expressed in her ship art too. I wish I had her skill and style.
Speaking of her, I noticed recently she's stopped posting on DAD.gallery (
https://dad.gallery/users/4274), I assume it's because she used to draw for like 8 hours a day and she got burnout or something.
No. 2422951
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>>2422912Hey, I followed him from his Off and Yume Nikki days.
First person I thought of is comic artist Yudoridori, she has perceptive misandrist critiques but gets high on her own farts. She used to proudly sleep around and has contracted HPV. Nowhere near as bad as pedo moids, of course. She could be the perfect indulgent
terf adjacent artist but she's too much of a libfem pickme.
No. 2422963
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>>2422912sorry samefag as
>>2422924 I would also like to post Lacryboy too. I tried to find the most normal drawing I could to post here as an example. Extremely skilled but only draws horrifying coomshit featuring loli/shotashit, rape, bestiality etc. some of it got posted in the bad comic thread on /m/. All her copycats piss me off too.
No. 2422969
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>>2422912for me it's this artist named nokiyu, who goes by 87kt or something. he's everything terrible you can think of under the sun (pedo, racist, serial abuser, disgusting scrote, coomer, chronically online)
his art style is amazing and would be fun to study but most of his art is extreme coomerism and he just keeps coming back after everytime he's been called out for abusing someone (happened like 10 times over the past few years)
No. 2422970
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>AI looking way better than most professional art
Yeah I honestly rather pay for artwork like this instead of an actual artist there’s really no difference anymore kek(bait)
No. 2422977
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>>2422969that's the most generic coomshit
No. 2423036
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>>2422969You do you but this art style is incredibly bad to me and i'm not trying to be contrarian or anything. I hate the generic cartoon plus huge boobs plus tiny waist plus maybe giant hips. These artists always use coombait and art style to hide poor fundies
>>2422978Why don't you guys just steal the artstyle from the AI image and make actually good art with composition, an understanding of form, perspective, etc? You guys sound like the AI baiters from /ic/. Couldn't you apply the same logic to ANY creative hobby? What's the point of making a game, anyone could do it better? What's the point of making music if there's so much out there and sounds can be AI-generated? What's the point of having hobbies, we're all going to die?
No. 2423079
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>>2423036I've been stealing from ai that I prompted myself so there is no "original" online for quite a while and I've amassed a following praising my mediocre art skills.
It's wonderful really because I just need to sketch/paint over the original and fix the fuckups and boom, it's not free art but it is half price
No. 2423130
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Why even draw if you hate it and seethe over AI and every single person better than you all the time?
No. 2423317
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>>2422912rei_17 is so ridiculously influential and skilled with her work that I would kill to have her eye for composition and colors, but jesus christ is she a gigantic two-faced bitch and has an ego the size of a mountain, openly talking shit about foreign artists on Chinese social media thinking that they'll never see it. And because she's so well connected and talented, she can never be knocked down.
No. 2423329
>>2422912>Seeing these types of people doing good art that fits my taste fills me with rage. I hate it so much.Hating someone "as a person" when you only know them by their artwork is retarded.
I'm tired of this mentality in fandom and art spaces where someone's portfolio needs to be a squeaky clean wholesome chungus in order for others to say they enjoy their work, less it be followed immediately by "errrmm but they're
problematic tho…". I don't care.
This post just proved to me that it truly is all rooted in artistic envy, which keeps permabegs permabegs 'cause they draw out of spite, not passion.
No. 2423361
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>>2422969>87kt>(pedo, racist, serial abuser, disgusting scrote, coomer, chronically online)Jesus kek I liked one of his arts before (followed him for picrel then immediately unfollowed after he posted that big titty oc in your image) but I didn’t know it was that bad. Having trouble finding the drama, any screenshots?
No. 2423458
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>>2422912I really like this artist called tortoise shell, he draws generic animu but is really, REALLY good at it. I love how fluid his poses are and how he draws faces. He used to/is? a lolifag. I also agree i also like Mossa's art, i hate his faces but his rendering is amazing.
No. 2423464
File: 1740778208034.png (Spoiler Image,57.06 KB, 970x487, 87KT_.png)
>>2422969>>2423361https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4KO56J2JxNJDvpmi5Qyyx-4Gp1TQ90oY4QkUH31waY/This is from 2021, idk if anything's happened with him since then. (if an imgur link is deleted it should be on archive.org)
No. 2423551
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not sure if anyone else follows them on ig, but this moid artist named aquablue1992 drew one of his friends emily xu a while ago. it gave me kinda side-eye vibes because he draws nothing but furry girls which is probably his fetish, and to be frank i can't view this gift art as mainly him saying "i want to fuck my friend" lmao. emily is young, she's around 22 or 23 years old i think, and this moid definitely older.
it's not a big deal and his art is cute, i'd probably be flattered if i got this art, but i was just wondering if anyone else saw this kek
No. 2423565
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>>2423361I wish every scrote drops when they try to copy jeluto’s art. The only
valid they/thembie gender whatever the fuck they are
No. 2423620
>>2422924big agree, she is genuinely crazy talented. i love artists who draw their weird niche interests instead of non-stop popularity clout chasing shit
>>2422963lacryboy has a god-awful sense of anatomy and shitty messy lineart. always draws people with insanely long torsos like theyre centipedes. there is nothing really special about their art besides the porn lol
No. 2423622
>>2423317I'll be honest now, I don't like rei's art. I think a couple of her works are nice but I can't stand the anime style with the usual chinese color vomit and 1000 unnecessary elements shitting up the composition. She's skilled for sure but her style is tacky. Which makes her cow behaviour even more cringy, imagine having such a huge ego when your art looks like every professional chinese artist that comes out of art school.
I swear there's something about chinese artists being so unprofessional and acting like lunatics on social media.
No. 2423641
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>>2423317I agree. This piece of hers lives rent free in my mind even if i dont follow her.
No. 2423806
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>>2422849>>2422860Do you know why it looks like AI? Because a ton of his artwork was cannibalized by AI. His name is a frequently used keyword by prompters trying to be more "expressive" and "unique."
It doesn't look memorable because Chinese game artists were a bunch of clones of one another for the longest time. They still are, but not nearly at the same rate.
>>2422912Akihito Tsukushi (Picrel)
For a number of reasons, I don't follow him on Social Media or Pixiv. I find his worldbuilding and machinery styles inspirational and worth emulating up to a point; but we're talking about a man who's managed to be arrested for being a nonce in Japan–which is saying something given how light-handed they are with pedophiles. It makes me tired of how much people give a pass to predatory creators as long as they like their work. In his case, I'm sure he was propped up by people who share his nature.
>>2423407I agree. Controversial female artists just balance the scales. Obviously, it's no good if they do something outright criminal (like the moids are most likely to do as a goal in life), but they hardly do anything that a mute or a block wouldn't resolve. They're great from a distance to witness.
The moids are all cookie-cutter clones of one another. When one gets worse, they're all collectively inspired to become worse, too.
No. 2423811
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>>2423329Am an ESLfag so "as a person" are probably not the right words I should've used.
I won't lie that it's definitely envy, kek. But there's just something so dissappinting seeing the artist of picrel be also drawing stuff like
very little girls getting raped (complete with blood and injuries) that makes me wish their talents could've gone to someone else…
No. 2424103
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>>2422912>JCM2I wish he hadn't abandoned his old stuff and made the loli shit in secret, but unfortunately that made him money, it's really sad. (I remember a lot about Glitch Girl, a world where people fight with magic puppets or something, it had a lot of characters, art and more about that) he was one of my inspirations back in the day.
And fuck Mossa, he's way more degenerate, disgusting, way worse than JCM2.
No. 2424139
>>2424124I see it as a thing about broken men. They're sad and have the look of sexual molestation, when they're with a woman the woman is visualized as an aggressive beast thst he is submissive towards.
It's a fetish for some, but outside that core group it's probably just because the art is pretty and also pretty memed up.
No. 2424140
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>>2424124I find her men hideous but she's the only artist that makes artistic pinups of men. Her art, outside the meme, is genuinely really interesting and creative.
No. 2424155
>>2424124i think her men are ugly but her art is fun and unique to me. inspired by older cartoons. and i like seeing the ugly man suffer and be uncomfortable and threatened by weird cartoon wolf ladies. her beatles autism is a funny bonus
you don't have to like her, nona. it's probably just a taste thing. loads of people (including here) love that kim jung gi guy but i think his stuff is boring bullshit
No. 2424189
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>>2424177I remember following him on fb(and even beings fb friends with him) and i noped out of his art when he drew realistic loli art of the braces girl from the loud house. He also attaches his name to his pedoslop which is something i see a lot of latino pedomoids like alke do. I would honestly kill myself before selling out and completly butchering my style in favour of ugly soulless nsfw slop like him.
No. 2424209
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>>2424189Searched up who that is and good Lord all he draws are literal toddlers and that's it.
At least jcm2 or mossa dedicated their energy to creative non-coom art but all this fucker does is draw goo goo ga gas. Fucking hell, final boss of wasted talent.
No. 2424210
>>2424206He's not practicing indigenous, though.
>>2424209that art is from jcm2, anon….
No. 2424216
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>>2424213Alke is not indigenous, he's argentinian. Pasty white nerdy guy with glasses and a beard, looks like a soyjack. He also attachs his loli art to his irl identity and his facebook profile where he has his mom added. Latino scrotes are on whole new level of evil and depraved. There was also a mexican dude that drew toddlercon and used to stream on pomf(twitch for open pedos) with his facecam on. I hate being an hispanic woman.
No. 2424229
File: 1740815833935.jpeg (Spoiler Image,371.75 KB, 2048x1447, ''Abomination''.jpeg)
>>2424216Wonder what he was thinking when he drew this. Considering he wants to diddle kids.
No. 2424241
>>2423821They remind me of a deranged version of the Precious Moments figurines. It's as if he were aiming for something cute but he got way too excited about it.
>>2423919>>2424058Sorry; you're right about it being a hoax. That being said, I won't be surprised when something comes up, either, and I know it comes down to whether or not anyone will report it and do anything about it. I wish men could keep their perversions out of their ideas.
>>2424142I actually caught the bit in an article that came up in the search when I wanted to get his name and not cite him as "that Made In Abyss guy". It's not a fandom I follow religiously so I wasn't aware it started as a Reddit shitpost; but I've come across other Japanese artists who talk openly about wanting to offend (or have offended) so it's almost a reflex to assume. At this point, I assume they're pedos but not caught due to so much openness about it in Japan (which people don't like and want to stop, but they don't want to rock the boat. Ugh.). Blame the journalists using Reddit bullshit as a source just to fluff up their content numbers and search results.
No. 2424251
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>>2422397i didn't notice there were slides afterwards. if the gendie bullshit was so taxing to explain that its "getting to your mental health" and easier to use the correct pronouns then just drop it. it feels like she's shoving the guilt/responsibility onto her audience instead of just doing what she wants.
No. 2424253
>>2424246Just generic horror art. If I were to armchair him I would say it's repressed guilt for being a pedophile and the giant fetus represents a rape baby (hence the title "Abomination"). Hence why a crowd of little girls (whom he wants to molest) are trying to kill it.
But that'd be too kind of me to interpret.
No. 2424260
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>>2424251Not to mention her room is so feminine it's almost laughable. Somebody even pointed out the precious moments figurine on her shelf kek
No. 2424337
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>>2424334Personally, i like guys to have ethereal faces and sexy bodies. The all out mangaka does it well imo even if most of the manga is poorly drawn, but she's a fellow leg and midriff fag so i forgive her for her begtier unpolished art. I own Kaneoya's artbooks and i love her art and to support a yume queen, but her guys are too realistic for my taste. They have many imperfections only gross 3DPD fleshies have like facial hair and saggy old faces. I also dont like suits so that makes 90% of her unappealing to me because she's a suitfag and i like my pixelated scrotes to show skin personally.
No. 2424345
>>2424334I'm
>>2424248I like bishonen and ikemen. The body size doesn't matter much as long as they're obviously fit and not fat or full-on roided. I may make exceptions when it comes to boys who fit a punk or gothic aesthetic (a little rough; a little sickly/dreary), but they never stray far from that initial gradient. I love it when the guys are beautiful and elegant, but it's clear the artist is horny for them.
I don't have one particular artist I gravitate towards. It's always exciting to see people make these characters.
>>2424337>i like guys to have ethereal faces and sexy bodiesSame.
No. 2424356
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>>2422912alkemanubis
I have a shit taste but i dream to render similar to him but i fucking hate how he draws the girls scarily realistic
No. 2424359
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>>2424177>>2424189he also made this realistic commission of Lola loud who is 4-5 years old, gross
No. 2424501
>>2424216>pasty white Where? Kek
Alke? More like alkie because you have to be an alcoholic to like his work.
No. 2424945
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I was gonna post it in the Twitter art thread but it's probably more on topic here. Art cops are so annoying no matter which side they're on. Oh my god, someone drew the ogre girl from Shrek 2 slightly prettier. Better be a self-righteous asshole about it.
No. 2424955
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>>2424945Samefag. Of course she's a tif with a DNI. Her art is fine but nothing special.
No. 2424990
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>>2424957NTA and I agree but she's doing the same thing just in the opposite direction.
No. 2424992
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>Link and Zelda as Indo-Europeans in the eastern steppe
I like seeing characters in other cultures, but the comments were right about the blonde hair and blue eyes being their main characteristic. You can pass these as your own ocs.
No. 2425005
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>>2424992>the blonde hair and blue eyes being their main characteristic.Poor dark link forgotten once more.. I think it's cute
No. 2425015
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>>2424989True, it's cringe how so many people pretend to suddenly care about this random character. The way non-issues can blow up on twitter is why I stopped posting anything besides original characters there. I remember how an asian artist was getting dogpiled for drawing some hazbin character too pale in her humanoid version and then on the same day seeing another fanart by someone else that had the same thing going on get thousands of likes without a single annoying english comment. Your post just crosses the timeline of the wrong person at the wrong time and suddenly hundreds of people want to make fun of you, get an apology or just threaten you for doing something totally unforgivable that they would've probably just ignored any other day. It's insane.
Always glad to see a coomer have to deal with that dumb shit though kek, that artists media tab is disgusting
No. 2425050
File: 1740869668650.png (1.37 MB, 928x658, Gokurakugai.PNG)
>>2424998Some ugly blob version of the main male lead from Gokurakugai.
No. 2425059
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>>2424992>blonde hair and blue eyes being their main characteristicEhh, I know it’s not the same thing but I like when they change things up a bit. I’m fond of brunette Zelda myself and would like to see more Zeldas like that.
I do think it’s a shame that racebends are more likely to get attention than ocs. This reminds me of a criticism of hollywood. They’re more likely to greenlight reboots/spin-offs/remakes than originals. Rather than take the risk and greenlight an original cartoon about an indian girl detective, they’d rather slap the name Velma on her and make it a scooby-doo spin-off.
In a messed up kind of way, the execs are right. Racebends get more attention and clout-obsessed social media artists are scared of risking being ignored. Even some of the most popular ocs currently were essentially racebends of characters like jotakak kek. The artists who find success with just ocs are either making coombait or are genuinely amazing at designing characters/drawing scenarios. Or they’re appealing to whatever trends tiktokers are obsessed with, I dunno.
No. 2425081
>>2424627I have artist friends who are offline. I used to have more online art friends before Twitter was a thing, but the landscape became so rabid that it feels like making new friends feels insincere, especially when they find out you don't bother with social media. Suddenly, you aren't a friend because it's all about being able to re-post their stuff.
The only exception is that I have an art community that I've been a back-and-forth member of for a long time. They're not my friends, but feel more like distant relatives I can visit, throw money at, and guide people towards.
>>2424897If you go in with the mindset that you're using realism to make your stylization better, it balances out. Use it to solve problems in your stylization.
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>>2425094Me seeing all those TRAs claiming a character is a "GENDER GOALS!".
No. 2425112
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>>2425109To look like the manliest or the more twink man/girly girl as possible.
No. 2425136
>>2424945That passive aggressiveness is completely obnoxious and overreactive, but she's right.
Online artists have a tendency to coddle the hell out of even the most hideous/lamest art and forbid even the tiniest criticism,
except when they can justify it with social justice rules, in which case it's suddenly fine to quote tweet people with a bunch of obnoxious bitchiness. Stuff like this wouldn't be so bad if twitterinas at least had the decency to screenshot the stuff they want to shit talk instead of shitting up the other persons notifications and directly linking their own followers to go shit on them too. Even tumblrinas usually have the decency to not reblog stuff they just wanna call cringe.
No. 2425250
>>2425050Gokurakugai has
that audience as it's fanbase?
No. 2425451
>>2424627 I wouldn’t really know how I’d approach someone online if they wanted to interact with me since I’m just entirely offline as an artist, but in real life I’d just like someone friendly and maybe enthusiastic where we can engage with each others art and just show genuine interest in their work.
I know some artists in real life but they aren’t as invested into improving their fundamentals, or they have some life situations going on instead of taking time to draw, so their skill level isn’t on the same level. But because there’s a big gap in skill, I have been afraid to continuously show my art with them because I worry it might make them feel insecure since comparison is just a thing in the art space, and people can really give a hissy fit about it (I’ve experienced this when I used to be online when I was a teen so I’m wary). I know it’s not my fault if they feel that way, but it’s an inconvenience when you’re trying to make friends but you end up just being perceived as a show off. Most of the time I just want to be able to learn and have fun together. Drawing is a pretty solitary activity anyway.
No. 2425576
>>2424627I find art communities better. I'm a bit wary of art-friendships. Had someone engage by sending their drawings of a character I really liked, year later they mentioned how much they disliked the character but said it was a good way to get my attention.
I do still have art-friends, but the art part feels secondary, not extremely important.
No. 2425625
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every single time
No. 2425721
File: 1740906502527.png (Spoiler Image,1.08 MB, 2400x1440, 8765432.png)
>>2425715>Men should not be allowed to draw-Nona, 2025
I wish there were more women artists like JKR/this anon who would make statements like that publicly. Then we could frame their
eccentric portraits and have these words immortalized on little plates underneath, in the female-only schools
No. 2425970
>>2425715>Men should not be allowed to drawI think men who draw are highly
sus unless they're like autists who
only draw cars or some boring shit like that over and over and never diverge. They just end up drawing their own porn. Every. Time. Men don't understand art, they just want to obsess over their own sexuality. It's not art for men, it's just another form of masturbation.
No. 2425983
>>2425934Make sure your new art is not able to be connected with your old discord account: different username, nothing related to your real identity, do not post where you live or your age and so on. Don't post old art if you've posted it somewhere else in the past.
Be boring. Do not share ANYTHING about your personal life. Treat your platform as a job. If you worked at a cafe and some lady came in like "hi, are you married? Where do you live?" that's obviously too personal and you wouldn't have to answer. You also do not serve a customer and go "so my father took me to the zoo yesterday" it's inappropriate and unrelated to the job. Pretend like you're the social media manager for a corporate job. Nothing personal. Just art.
If someone says your art is similar to that of your old account, ignore it. If you make a big thing out of it it will only make you look pressed and it makes them more suspicious. Because why would you be so defensive if it's just a random artist? It then MUST be you! If you just ignore it people will have nothing else to go on so they'll just forget and move on.
I also have cringe drawings and now cancellable opinions from when I was weeby teen floating around on the web. I've tried to delete most of them but some remain. I use a different username now and even friends who knew the old name haven't cared to look it up, or at least they haven't seen anything so controversial that I've been called out. Usually people who get cancelled are people who are actively controversial/rude in present time which makes people try to snoop about their past. If you're boring people won't have any reason to look you up so you should be safe.
No. 2426314
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>>2426200this picture still makes me tear up
No. 2426359
>>2425934It's very unlikely that you'll get doxxed or cancelled. Most cancelling attempts aren't even done for actual reasons, usually just an ex-friend with a vendetta and even in those scenarios it rarely escalates to doxxing. Even if your IRLs recognize your work the chances of them exposing your identity to others is 0, normies are well-adjusted. You only have to worry about this stuff if you're extremely controversial like the other anon said.
I'd suggest having a healthier view on online communities instead because this kind of paranoia will drive you crazy, but if you still want to do everything in your power to avoid this then I agree you should just not post anything personal at all. If you had recognizable interests from back then don't post about them either, it's all about triangulation; if you overshared a lot then it's possible for someone to recognize or get suspicious if they can pinpoint 4-5 matching details. If you're extremely schizo then don't post anything except art at all and only reply with thank you's, if you have the urge to tweet make a private account or something.
No. 2426405
>>2425934>>2426359This tbh. The only times I've actually seen an artist get doxxed is if they've done an awful crime akin to pedophilia. Even trannies, they don't get doxxed unless they show signs of being a serious sex pest, because despite how the internet makes things seem, most people have a conscience that goes "hmm, even though I don't agree with this person, do they REALLY deserve ALL of this?". bpdchans lack that voice in their head, which is how most artists get their callouts, but they're more focused on being seen as a
victim and getting asspats rather than actually trying to get your name out there.
I also used to be incredibly scared about the consequences of getting popular online until I started watching the reactions of creators who refused to let themselves be cancelled and I realized that standing up for yourself is just a thing that you can do, kek. But most people just aren't going to be that dedicated.
No. 2426427
>>2426422again, its not about it being gay or not. Its about men not suffering any irl consequences from it. If you draw beefcakes like marvel heroes then you arent even threatening their ego. Just draw your husbandos away
nonny.
No. 2426437
>>2426417Oh my god nonna just draw what you want to. Opinions on lolcow don't matter, opinions on twitter or instagram or wherever else don't matter, it's literally just some person saying whatever came to their mind, a lot of the time these people don't mean it 100% literally. You need to remain true to yourself, remain true to your tastes and what you like, just because enough people are agreeing doesn't make it a good take, it just means there's a lot of retards in the world and people of the same mindset tend to congregate in the same place. I'm not saying the person you replied to is retarded, but I'm saying this because I can see my old self in your post, I was too scared to draw what I wanted for a really long time because I was scared of drawing what was seen as the "wrong" thing, but I had just ended up in spaces I was not meant for because I had grown up online and had outgrown the friends I had made when I was 13 and I still could not let go of them at 23 due to one-sided loyalties. The people who will want to dictate what you draw will turn on you the second you step out of line, they will never be happy, the goalpost will ALWAYS move, especially if they see they can actually get to you. Be happy, and let your happiness be something you define on your own.
No. 2426504
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How do you overcome burnout? I feel so overwhelmed lately and i haven't touched my sketchbook for like 15 days now. It feels like taking a break will just make my art skill to regress
No. 2426556
File: 1740963334190.jpg (20.3 KB, 615x410, littleboylover.jpg)
Why do I keep seeing this symbol in a lot of online artwork recently???
No. 2426587
File: 1740965601511.jpg (352.28 KB, 456x800, 74302-0.jpg)
>Get really inspired by super colorful artist
>Try to make a piece inspired by their work
>I am only a beginner at color
>Fuck up three times, like major fuck up
>No joke this was fucking abysmal, I'm surprised I'm not crying right now
I'm finally entering my renderfagging and color journey. Wish me luck.
No. 2426657
>>2426642NTA but can you post an example? Is it furries doing this or random normal artists, and are you sure it's not an unfortunate coincidence?
>>2426587Good luck nona! Remember to work on your values too.
No. 2426685
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>>2426668I see mostly furries doing this to be honest, as I mentioned again I've seen their fursonas with the symbol in their faces or bellies.
>>2426657Look into the right, I went to this artists profile and yeah she's a pedo since she draws these young furry children with their crotches emphasized and draws diaper stuff too. This piece of hers has 22k likes on Twitter, I don't think it's a coincidence anymore.
No. 2426704
File: 1740973661072.png (2.56 MB, 2436x818, paci_pup.PNG)
>>2426685>>2426701checked the profile and man this is bleak, what are the chances she's a pedo
victim No. 2426833
>>2426704They are always a pedo
victim, I know two furry tifs who draw these things and they have been abused as kids, they said that. They keep saying it's not sexual and their safe space and stuff..
No. 2426860
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>>2426631I absolutely adore picrel, i guess its the bold colors. I wish i could pick nice palettes like this.
No. 2426901
>>2426888This is a dataminer talking point. You don't have to be a murderous pedophile to want to stay private, keep different aspects of your life separate and avoid embarrassment. Besides, you don't have to be a bad person or even particularly special to get a stalker.
Paranoid nonas, keep maintaining opsec as the internet becomes even more aggressively anti-privacy and obsessive people become more emboldened.
No. 2426919
>>2426888>>2426906These posts are so funny to me. You're so aggro over anons having a legitimate worry in a time where personal privacy is at an all time low. We're on a site with a history of digging up cows' old accounts. A bored kiwifarms user will try finding someone's address because they got annoyed. It's not a crazy thing to be anxious about.
And if you find op irritating, you can ignore her. Others answered giving decent advice. It's not your god given duty to call every anon you don't like a retard kek
No. 2426935
>>2426919why are you encouraging people to be anxiety ridden? you do realize that if you live your life in anxiety, you will never live at all and reach old age with regrets? you talk about cows, but HOW many cows are there vs how many random artists using social media? farmhands are quick to shut down vendetta threads and kiwifarms threads have to go through the proving grounds or whatever it's called first. i've seen comic artists have threads on /co/ with over 300 replies of straight shit talking with no doxxing, just gossip. even if you catch the eye of miserable losers online, it's extremely unlikely.
>>2426928because they're miserable people. i've seen plenty of users on this site who think their mental illness is the norm, thinking that everyone has their tiktok feed full of ddlg fetishists when it's just them who is catering their fyp that way or something. but still, people should not be discouraged from living their life because they are afraid of a little cyber gossip. my account is quite large and i had a discord server of over 1k members at one point and people began making horrid false allegations about me, yet i've never been posted to either kiwi or lolcow, despite posting some shit lolcow users would love to make fun of. they're gonna be ok.
>>2426934this too. literally just don't respond to it. cows are cows because you can milk them. someone fucking up but handling it like a normal person isn't milk, it's just a person being a person.
No. 2426949
>>2426935I'm not encouraging people to go through their lives ridden with anxiety. I'm talking to anons who are weirdly upset at op who is nervous because she said edgy and retarded things when she was younger, and doesn't want to get cancelled or doxed over them. And then I said "other anons already replied with decent advice", and if you read back, the advice is "just post art, no personal info or opinions" kek. So I'm not saying that at all, I'm agreeing with the previous anons telling her to just calm down and post art.
I don't think anybody is a retard for being nervous about any of this. We post a lot of these slapfights in these artist salt threads. I've personally seen weirdos start up with "I knew x from my y days" and start posting identifications that turned out to be false kek. It's fine to be anxious, just be reasonable about what you should do. Which is what op came here looking for advice and reassurance about, and she got it. It's fine.
No. 2426963
>>2426918What the hell is this post? The fucking glowies must be insane if they think "W-Well you're not a literal rape ape pedo axe murderer so you should be okay with volunteering your personal info, only bad people get doxxed, crazy and fixated people don't exist, no one cares i promise (i will be nowhere to be found if they do care ofc)!!!!" will convince anyone of shit. You've never had to be "worthy of prison" to be doxxed, we're not all new to the internet. I've seen enough shit to know all it takes is a few deranged people with a vendetta and your information to harass you.
I will post my art if I want. I won't give out my personal information. Internet strangers don't need to know my name, see my face, or even know what my favorite snack is. Fuck out of here lmao.
No. 2427092
>>2426888>Why would any of them give a shit about you? In that context, I was refering to cases similar to friends/family uploading "Happy birthday" messages with a pic of you when you were little, classmates posting old group photos and such. I'm a different anon and just giving an example on how hard it can be to control your info online, no need to get so worked up. Of course if you mind your bussiness the most you can get it a petty callout (I have been here), but the point is that if someone with a mental disorder decides they hate you, they will be able to find info about you even if you're secretive. This almost never happens, but I get why some paranoid nonas wouldn't feel comfortable posting in public.
And yeah, my family does give a shit about me, sorry about whatever you have going on in yourlife.
No. 2427105
>>2426919This. My first take on the conversation here but anons literally keep saying "just don't be a cow" and "just hide your name lol" as if people didn't do dumb shit online as teenagers or as if people didn't build their brand for years not even oversharing but people just being vaguely aware of who they are (first name, general location etc., stuff you share almost accidentally in a casual setting). Yeah I absolutely wish I had the opsec to stay completely anonymous online since my teenage years so that some lunatic couldn't look up my old journal entries I forgot about from 15 years ago of me saying stuff that can be considered highly
problematic in 2025 but I didn't. Yeah I wish I didn't piss off some crazy BPD-chan in a discord server 6 years ago so that now she probably has a ton of out of context screenshots of me saying something dubious in the heat of the moment. Et cetera, et cetera. But it's not 2002 anymore, a lot of our lives are online today and trying to filter every single interaction through the lens of "can this be twisted far enough to be used against me" is exhausting and impossible to have a perfect track record with. Any petty misunderstanding or argument can blow up into a drama attracting people who smell blood in the water, the anons on this site alone are a proof of how psycho a-logs online will find a reason to hate you just to feel better about themselves.
>A bored kiwifarms user will try finding someone's address because they got annoyed.This. People do irreversible life ruination because it's a challenge to them, not because they really give a shit. And people who have never been cancelled don't understand how scary it can actually get. I've never been cancelled per se, but I had an online stalker who was genuinely threatening my life and was arrested for aggravated assault against someone else they were stalking. You never know what kind of people can latch onto you.
No. 2427358
File: 1741031322194.jpeg (1.61 MB, 1170x2179, 276B5B36-003D-40D7-8A76-D80923…)
this artist has some good stuff but i was shocked by the pricing of these icons she does, they look unfinished and like she shits them out in 10 minutes max, but she charges almost 100 for them?
No. 2427410
>>2427358Good for her to be honest.
Value is on the eyes of the beholder, so if people are willing to that for a piece of hers I don't see anything wrong. Business is business, isn't like she's selling food or anything necessary.
No. 2427432
>>2427358>>2427402I only find it an issue if the artist is whining about not getting commissions, while refusing to change their prices.
If that isn't the case then who cares.
No. 2427683
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How does one have super colorful pieces but also have a good sense of color balance and understanding of value? I've been really inspired by Ernst Fuchs' later work (1980s) and he has such an advanced understanding of color I feel like it's almost intuitive for someone like him. Maybe I'm over-engineering it, maybe I should get used to my work being ugly before it being good. I tried adding the touches of red and blue to some of my work and it doesn't look as good compared to how he does it.
No. 2427818
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Jesus christ, more pumpkin milk
No. 2427961
File: 1741066233840.mp4 (1.15 MB, 576x1024, aa48f0f7caf5b15d7cdc59b69a5eb6…)
I'm sorry but American art schools aren't even a joke, I think the professors are likely competent, TBH the students are terrible. Just from everything I've seen, the students are extremely sensitive. They get such lax criticism in a really friendly environment even and yet they bitch and moan about corrections. I think the new generation of artists, my generation particularly, are kind of terrible at being told anything other than compliments. I feel like Millennial artist were more skilled and versatile in the early 2000s, specifically when I look back on things like OC tournaments. A lot of artists I know now, even the good ones, aren't versatile and can only draw pretty trendy faces.
No. 2427974
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>>2427961I don't even understand why people get so fucking pressed about corrections, you're in a class and you're trying to get grades not draw whatever the fuck you want, do that in your own time. Suck it up and do what your teachers asks, if you think it's unfair make a complaint or appeal. It reminds me when youtubers used to bawl about art teachers not letting them draw retarded weeb shit while their art was on par with fucking Dadius at best kek.
No. 2427997
File: 1741069077019.jpg (407.35 KB, 3840x2160, 20250304_001443.jpg)
The teacher was trying to correct the form. If you look at them side by side the students form is incredibly janky. I agree that it still looks bad but it's not finished like the students was.
No. 2428020
>>2427997the teacher is not god tier but the corrections are much better i hope this girl is a 16 year old which would explain her stupidity, otherwise there's no hope for her
>>2427995the woman's right arm is actually pressing against her torso now for starters. shoulders don't form a square/right angle on the body especially not when slouching/reaching forward like that, you can see the teacher made them curve inwards (try doing a similar pose yourself and looking downwards at your shoulders) though she exaggerated it a bit more than the pose. arms aren't board straight either, the bones are slightly curved and the muscles/fat also add more curves. her face (or at least the start of it) and skull are properly formed now (that dark shadow is where the front of her cheeks would be, i'm guessing the teacher did not paint the front of her face so if you added her nose eyebrows etc it'd protrude some more), the student painted it so that it's like all her features are flattened on the side of her head that's facing the viewer. the teacher took more liberties with the color of her hair, but it works out since the student made her hair and skin extremely yellow. the shade of the jeans and shirt are more accurate now too. the proportions are also more accurate, you can see in the ref pic she's about 3.5 heads tall from crotch to top of her skull, the student's is around 2.75 while the teacher's is closer to 3.5. similarly the student made her hands and feet way too small, teacher made them more accurately sized. more done/more detail =/= better. you can add more detail on afterwards
my biggest gripe with the teachers is that she made her shoulders too narrow/rounded (though rounded shoulders is an "idealized" trait many painters give women) and slightly changed the pose, she's much more relaxed/slouchy while the ref pic is more tensed. i also like the background on the student's more, it's more creative.
No. 2428096
File: 1741076567027.png (2.45 MB, 1080x1350, Happy love day everyone! I hop…)
So I've been listening to Twisted Disaster's recent streams and honestly having to bail after she says something that is so very stupid. She's still looking for an irl job even though she continues to cope saying that she doesn't really need one that bad which sure, might be true because her husband is the breadwinner of their household but she should stop with the cap acting like she's making enough through her commissions when it so clearly is not if she's feeling the need to get an IRL job. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's wrong to do both freelance art and work an irl job, I'm pretty sure most of us do that and there's no shame in it, it's just that with Michie,it feels like that bothers her because she'd have to admit that the full-time art thing just isn't really working out and if she just didn't cope about it, it wouldn't be mildly funny as she'd just be like the rest of us who are just trying to get through our lives doing both.
That said, in her last stream with a moment that made me just have to stop listening was when she was talking about her latest job hunt and this nitwit really said that she's afraid of getting "hate-crimed" if she works for a place that doesn't validate her "nonbinary identity" by referring to her as she/her and not "they/them". She had gotten some clothes for her interview and she was explaining to her chat about why she didn't want to ever wear a dress to an interview which at first was not a big deal but then she went on to say that the reason was because she didn't want the employer to think that she's a woman and that she wanted her "nonbinary" self to be visible. This bitch really thinks that not calling her a they/them is a "hate crime", is she fucking serious?
I suppose that partially explains why she's been having difficulty finding a job besides her more than likely high expectations of what she wants for pay despite being out of irl work for close to 5-6 years. Needless to say, retarded reasoning as per usual.
No. 2428237
File: 1741093453657.jpeg (Spoiler Image,313.49 KB, 2048x1494, IMG_3178.jpeg)
you have to be extremely self hating and porn addicted to draw yourself like this as a grown ass woman
No. 2428396
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>>2428237kek did jocat become a lolifag?
No. 2428414
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Speaking about doxing and having anxiety, should I be worried that I once posted my art on LC? An online friend recognized it from an old thread and told me she liked it but if anyone else was to see it I think my 'art career' or 'presence' would suffer. This makes me extremely paranoid to this day. I'm not a personality fag but it's still scary to me to be easily recognized.
No. 2428421
>>2428414having bad ospec will lead to you being doxxed and also noone goes for a noname farmer
unless you count the rabid tard troons lurking here is it really that hard to change some style quirks? or fucking not link your actual account, ive been a industry artist for a while and ive posted here alot but i never post my actual work style here and i never will .
No. 2428480
>>2427961Most of these "my art teacher corrected/drew over my art" stuff is exaggerated or sometimes even fake for sympathy internet points from the commenters.
It's a meme, so some people probably even encourage their art teacher for corrections so they can post about it and have people tell them their art is already great, instead of fucking practicing their art.
No. 2428679
>>2428653why is having an amputation fetish
problematic kek
No. 2428781
>>2427683Try muting your colors and letting your touches of red and blue shine through. Just from looking at your picrel it looks like he's using sets of colors that have the same undertones, eg the pinks, greens and oranges are more yellow, while the darker reds, darker blues and purple are more purple. That will add to the contrast, even when the colors themselves are quite muted and greyish.
Probably the best way of learning how to paint like this is to paint like this until you feel like you can understand how and where to put the colors to get you the results you want. Unfortunately you might just have to spend some time doing endless studies of his work, and studying other artists that use color in a similar way, because this is a lot more advanced than just a color wheel. If you can, use actual paint to make the colors cohesive.
>>2428096Kek at everything you wrote. I don't know if she's deliberately sabotaging herself because she knows she won't be able to hold down a job. It's also easier to stomach if she bombs the interview and tells herself it's because of muh hate crime. Maybe she's still holding out hope of making a living from art, selling beautiful stunning pieces like the thing in your picrel, and thinks that a job will stop her from achieving her dreams.
No. 2428787
>>2428653If you're talking about Homie, you're about 5 threads too late. Read up on why she's a cow
>>2428679She's a tif with a amputation fetish that cut off her own leg. People who say she had cancer or whatever don't know her old tweets about wanting to get a doctor to sign off on the procedure. You could also throw a dart on a board of edgy or
problematic millennial tumblr fetishes and she's probably drawn it before.
No. 2428936
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>>2428781>Kek at everything you wrote. I don't know if she's deliberately sabotaging herself because she knows she won't be able to hold down a job. It's also easier to stomach if she bombs the interview and tells herself it's because of muh hate crime. Maybe she's still holding out hope of making a living from art, selling beautiful stunning pieces like the thing in your picrel, and thinks that a job will stop her from achieving her dreams.I have no clue if she is deliberately self-sabotaging herself but I wouldn't be surprised if she was because she's such a self-victimizer. In a lot of her streams she can't go a few sentences without reminding people of all her issues from her "chronic illness" to the gender crap (not as much as the chronic illness), and muh mental health, it's just always something with her. But yeah, she's been on a job hunt since January and when I heard her say that, it started to make sense on what is possibly affecting it.
Another story she told in one of her recent streams that had me noping out was when she was talking about how she went to her hairdresser recently to get a hair trim and how she was "fearing for her life" because she got into a talk with her haridresser on some conspiracy theory and the haisdresser said that she thinks Jewish people are lizard people and that "transwomen" are women who's clitoris' have overgrown from chemicals in the water which is why there are so many troon men. And Michie was saying that she was "fearing for her life" because she was afraid her hairdresser was going to attack her for being a "nonbinary" (nonpracticing) Jew.and I'm like girl… If this story is true, I get that the hairdresser is off her rocker but I really don't believe she would actually attack Michie in a public space full of other people and this is why I couldn't help but roll my eyes at Michie once against trying to make herself into a
victim.
>Maybe she's still holding out hope of making a living from art, selling beautiful stunning pieces like the thing in your picrel, and thinks that a job will stop her from achieving her dreams.I think you're right. She admitted that 2024 was not a great year for her doing cons even though she did the most she's ever done in that year. She tends to doublespeak when talking about it as she says she did great but also didn't because she didn't make back profit at a lot of them which made her open for emergency commissions. Her latest YCHs also didn't sell. So I mean, she's clearly struggling and it's why she feels the need to get an IRL job now. I also feel like a bit of an asshole because she said in one of her streams that she finally can say that she's a good artist and then you see pieces like picrel (which is recent) and I'm like "if you say so". I feel bad because art is subjective when it comes to this but her art just has stayed consistently mediocre to below average in my view. The coloring may help her images pop but the quality is still very middling and it's why I'm not surprised that she's not rolling in commissions or having her YCHs sell like hotcakes.
No. 2429064
>>2429043that is her nona…
side note, but is that really homie? she looks like such a stacy in that long blonde hair pic. she was so much prettier than what i'd expect an average tif fetishist artist to look like, wow
No. 2429087
>>2429043Who did you think the Homie anons were referring to was? My goodness nonuchka.
>>2429075NTA, she is 100% a TIF. The only moid thing about her is her BIID, everything else even if degenerate is painfully female.
No. 2429153
File: 1741139554631.jpg (1.02 MB, 2500x3681, 439952.jpg)
>>2422912you know who
i'm glad their artbooks have scans online so i don't need to waste money on them kek
No. 2429249
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>>2424945I think its cringe when untalented clout chasing american artists do it just because its popular. But i love it when asian artists take ugly male characters and bishify them.
No. 2429262
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>>2429251youre overthinking it nona nobody cares
No. 2429268
>>2429261Curiousity, honestly. I actually do like seeing what others think. Whether or not it's approved by those that answer will not affect my choice to keep the character kek
>>2429262Fair. (cute pic)
No. 2429305
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Come back and fix the archive, goddamn you. I refuse to slowly trawl through Internet Archive any longer.
No. 2429563
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>>2429465My favourite artist/personal almost graduated cow. I've talked about her way too many times itt, this is the last time I promise unless something crazy happens. But, she got called out by an ex-friend for little to no reason besides being salty that they weren't friends anymore, was accused of being a necrophile and a predator when all this artist did was have a very immature BPD lash out towards the ex-friend. Both parties were retarded, but the artist in question had something inconceivably horrific happen to her less than 4 years ago and would be fucked up by it so I'm definitely more sympathetic towards her.
No. 2429818
>>2429153I was about to post him too! His sci-fi character designs are so good and the way he draws faces are so cute.
Range Murata is not as bad as mossa and jcm2 but he still makes artwork that gives me the heebie jeebies.
No. 2429830
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>>2429278>having top-tier clothing and machinery rendering skills and you just use it to draw sameface lolis all the timeFor real. What's worse is that he can actually draw really handsome men but chooses not to because they don't make him coom.
I literally only watched Last Exile (a show where he served as character designer) because I thought Alex (picrel) was so attractive.
No. 2430078
File: 1741199959704.jpg (103.36 KB, 654x842, __original_drawn_by_murata_ran…)
>>2429153I wonder if he uses IRL photos for backgrounds in his art
No. 2430315
File: 1741206045143.jpg (203.67 KB, 850x1143, __original_drawn_by_murata_ran…)
>>2429153>>2430078A new person to study, thanks nonnas
No. 2430319
File: 1741206441386.jpg (34.01 KB, 500x375, 2e2fd979-5703-409a-96a7-cbce6e…)
I always try hard on a piece but when I look at other people's art online, the thing I worked hard on looks like shit afterwards. I'm motivated to improve but I feel sad that I'm not good enough yet. Does this feeling ever go away?
No. 2431012
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This is traditional art but what medium is this, especially the brown outlines? Alcoholic markers?
No. 2431431
>>2430544Yeah, I mean I didn't watch the full video but I figured it would be like all the other videos of this type of these young artists who whinge about getting unfavorable art reviews and critiques and with that voice, there was just no way I going to listen to it all lol
>DorianOf course, they always tend to choose the same names don't they? Aiden, Kai, Dorian, Asher, Theo, etc lol.
No. 2431457
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>>2429830are you me, nona? i also watched Last Exile because i thought Alex was hot. best character in the show tbh.
i wish Murata would return to doing character/machine/etc designs for animu or games. his proclivity for cute girls was still there but at least he showed that he was capable of drawing men, machinery, clothing, steampunk stuff, etc. nowadays it's all sameface loli art for some magazine… talk about wasted talent.
No. 2431499
File: 1741263464369.jpg (158.95 KB, 850x1148, __drawn_by_murata_range__sampl…)
>>2431469oh not surprised, some of his art feels like it's straight up traced from a photo, but can you provide screenshots?
No. 2431511
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>>2431509it doesn't look that good than the illustrations
No. 2431523
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>>2431518If you genuinely want to know and arent just mad your mid husbando got shat on i will give you my critique on why it looks ugly.
>his features are all too smallHis eyes feel comically small to me. His face is 60% chin and forehead. His nose is huge.
>he doesnt have a liplooks like a who from whoville or a turtle. The lack of sexy lips is probably the biggest problem i have with the design.
>looks a million years oldHe looks so fucking old, legit looks like a geezer and his eyebags look like wrinkles. It doesnt help he's put next to Murata's 5yo lolis that only make him look even more ancient.
I will never understand when people praise murata's moids because they are so generic and mid looking. They also reflect his pedophilia because his male characters are always drawn almost realistically while his lolis remain in a neonatus toddler state. It legit looks so uncanny when he draws his lolis next to a scrote.
No. 2431526
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>>2431511not to derail but that sc is from the Last Exile sequel series, not the original.
the thing with Murata and Yoshitoshi Abe's art is that it looks great in illustrations but kinda meh when actually animated. i can't tell whether that's because of tech limitations or because those two are primarily illustrators and not character designers/animators. thoughts, nonnas?
No. 2431543
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>>2431529In terms of his recent art, this is true. His early stuff is definitely unique though, his designs were very distinct until he switched to just generic little girls in school uniforms.
No. 2431545
>>2431523NTA but you didn't give any examples of what you like. Also all of your critique is just based on your personal preference.
>They also reflect his pedophilia because his male characters are always drawn almost realistically while his lolis remain in a neonatus toddler state.That's almost every single anime artist honestly. Especially the male ones.
No. 2431548
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>>2431545I like Kojima Ayami. Her guy's are very handsome. They have smaller jaws, pretty eyes, cute lips, dont look ancient. Murata's guys look very walled and generic to me.
No. 2431581
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>>2431573Did we watch the same anime or are you being contrarian because you are angry that pedo's art got insulted? or is it only okay when pedos draw male characters with eyes wide apart.
No. 2431644
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>>2431548Doesn't she do most/all of her art traditionally? She really inspires me
No. 2431659
>>2429251Nonnies here would probably laugh at it and call it peak tumblr design but it's also more cringe to change how he looks because of whatever you think people here would say.
He's your cringe husbando, don't let anyone take him away from you
No. 2431767
>>2431743Use a pen name and change up some key personality features about yourself if your American say you're actually just half American and always give falsified details about yourself
a Male name would be best or a slightly masculine female name it gives you more levity to get away with stuff women authors cant withand change up some of the designs
No. 2431771
>>2431768Otaku nips have almost zero hangups with shota whereas openly being a
TERF is more or less social suicide in art spaces but your other points are true
No. 2431778
>>2431771>whereas openly being a TERF is more or less social suicide in art spacesbut why do all of you care so much about that? if you are good enough at art you can get away with literally everything. Thats how mgong and even fucking renge murata have fans even here. Some of you worry too much about things that might not even happen over focusing on bettering your art. The only reason why being a ''
terf'' is seen as ''social suicide'' its because there are simply not enough women with balls to stand up to trannies, by allowing them to instill fear in you you are letting them win. Its faggot mentality.
No. 2431791
>>2431768You are so weird.
TERF shit isn't even a part of the story, I just don't want a bunch of cringe degenerate clingers glomming on to me just because they read my shit online. It's happened to me before with a project that didn't even get big. I also just don't want a career in the public eye in general. Normal people with offline lives understand this.
No. 2431797
>>2431778It's not about faceless followers for most people, it's about losing friends and connections and just not wanting whatever phobic/ist accusations associated with your account. Some people just want to post art in peace. Yes, if your art is good you can still shit out pieces and get 10k likes but other artists won't want to associate you because of "why are you following a
TERF are you one too" babble that spreads.
No. 2431810
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>>2431797Yeah, Terese Nielsen is a good example – absolute master-level WOTC artist who got dropped for liking gender critical tweets, not even for saying or doing anything overt or public.
No. 2431814
>>2431806Why are you being so retarded about this? It's just a guilt by association thing, it's not only about hypothetical gendie mutuals. You can have normie lib friends who don't care about trannies and they won't risk their own brand by publicly associating with a
TERF because people will assume you share the same views.
No. 2431870
>>2431768yeah just end up like ang 2.0 kek. that sort of shit, shotacon or
terf or whatever, is absolutely not acceptable in the western world. look at how people bring up rebecca sugar's old ed edd n eddy nsfw art even to this day, and how redkatherine got absolutely dogpiled
No. 2431895
>>2431679It didn't thank god, it's still working and everything but all their recent uploads are group buys, if you didn't participate then you don't get access to the the new material.
The old stuff is still around so I'm not that salty but it goes against the ethos of the website
No. 2431899
>>2431743What level of controversy are we talking about here? I noticed that nowadays the current "fandom" environment is ok with edgy themes.
If anything you're more likely to get an obsessive stalker from here who hates your work for reasons and tries to connect your old and new persona
No. 2431903
>>2431891>wanting to work on the industryWhy would anyone want that? there isnt enough money in the world to make me work for troons and moids for their generic slop. Sounds like a living hell. Everyone mocks the modern western game/animation industry because its filled with nothing but soulless slop.
>>2431898If you dont want my opinion then stop posting your stupid questions here. The status quo will never change because all the ''terfs'' on here are massive faggots too afraid of scrotes and trannies, only able to be honest behind a curtain of anonimity. Extremely pathetic behaviour.
No. 2431905
>>2431903The original anon you were replying to wasn't even talking about
TERF shit in the first place, she just didn't want two online presences to be linked to one another.
No. 2432230
>>2431523Where are you seeing wrinkles? his face is almost devoid of like, ANY definition.
>no lipsSo most anime then?
No. 2432256
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>>2432254Thanks anon, found it immediately KEKKKKK
>this is the artist that nearly every tim artist wants to emulate No. 2432264
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>>2432252He's pure unfiltered mento illness. That being said i am glad he cannot transition and instead is forced to unleash all his agp rage onto drawing good manga. He's like Eguchi Hisashi. I wonder how many closeted AGP scrotes there are working in the manga industry. My guess is all of them.
No. 2432290
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>>2432264https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/166165839/ Found the thread where these tweets were initially discussed and dug up. He really is just like Hisachi Eguchi, though some of the stuff discussed here makes me think he's more like Shuzo Oshimi, the Inside Mari author who admitted that he wanted desperately to be a woman but refused to transition because he understood that he would always be looking at his own body with the lustful gaze of a man, which isn't what he wanted.
No. 2432308
>>2432296I remember browsing 4chan's /lgbt/ board as early as 2015 and it was overrun by circlejerking trannies then too.
>>2432304Yes.
No. 2432369
>>2426888Ntayrt but there are some really fucked up, jealous people in the world. I was in an online community several years ago where some bored autist was doxxing people left and right. It was done to both women and moids. It might have been one or two people doing it but it was done because of jealousy, boredom and opportunity. One girl had her house swatted while her dad and young sibling were home. One of the people I assume was behind it would brag online about killing small animals. You have to experience this type of obsession/insanity to understand I guess.
I have come close to this type of behavior irl where someone was jealous/obsessed with me despite being a literal who. I wish I could be like "LOL WHO CARES UR NOT SPECIAL" but you don't have to be "special" to get your shit rocked and deal with lifelong paranoia kek. You don't need to be a "bad" person to get put on blast.
No. 2432462
>>2432425they're probably young with nothing to lose so they assume everyone else is like that too
>>2432443>>2432446Female artists always have it the worst
No. 2432478
>>2432462>they're probably young with nothing to lose so they assume everyone else is like that tooThat's the feeling I get too. I just want to grill for gods sake (i.e. post shit and make friends in the same fandoms as me without scaring away pre-existing relationships and potential commissioners with my wrongthink). I'll absolutely take fence-sitting libfems I enjoy the company of while subtly peaking them (yes, it's possible and I've managed it before) than the antisocial autists you're stuck with when you're publicly branded a
TERF/whatever-phobe/etc.
>>2432468I get what you're saying here, but there's a difference between becoming a cow and attracting an internet crazy who'll harass you like in
>>2432443 . The former I agree is unlikely, but the latter happens all the time and I don't think it's bad to tell anons to practice some basic opsec to avoid that fate. I don't think one has to go all out and be a faceless nobody that only makes art like other anons suggest, but making sure your real name isn't connected to your art accounts is honestly something most people should be doing if art isn't literally their day job.
No. 2432487
>>2432478I've posted my face on my socials with multiple men replying sexually inappropriate things, have posted information about shit going on in my life, have gone viral a few times, but I have never had to deal with internet crazies and I attribute that to the fact I am a hermit who seldom interacts with people personally. I'm not suggesting these things because I'm a retard who knows nothing, I'm suggesting these things because I was in those nonna's shoes before, terrified to try and pursue my dreams and goals out of fear of people harming me, but the reality just wasn't that bad. It was the cluster B assholes I was already affiliated with that I had to worry about the most and my life has been peaceful since I've shaken them off, a lot less paranoia. Cluster B's mentalities really rub off on you, and there are a lot of people like that on places like this, so I feel less exposure to places full of hatred and vitriol would do a paranoid, anxiety ridden nonna good.
No. 2432506
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>>2423079For those aipilled nonas that DO use ai as part of their workflow (not here to discuss the actual ethics, that is for another discussion) which generator do you use? Are there any free ones that let you delete your personal creations? My biggest gripe is some nosey zoomer finding the original referenced pic and exposing my ass kek
(use the ai thread) No. 2432508
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So many brushes that I download, test, and carefully change the settings of to pander to my likening but despite it all, a simple circle brush with minimal pressure like this always looks best for lineart tbh
No. 2432521
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>>2432513Picrel of queen nona is still better and more charming than this anon's slop machine
>>2432506 No. 2432558
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Top 2020 designs, bottom 2025 designs. Theyre originally based off a bunny and a bird and are magical girls. I feel like shes really been regressing in all aspects but her designs have really fallen off for me, the bunny girl especially is so unappealing. Why are the uniforms so boring and ugly. also lol bird girls big ass bald spot
No. 2432562
>>2427358I've been calling this "Social Media Pricing." (I'm assuming the artist is popular enough on social media to keep a full queue)
I usually see middle-skilled but fast and stable artists charging more based on their social media clout vs how much they could get away with on any other venue / platform / target client.
This is just the result of growth within the field you've chosen to grow in
This is why it's important to hone in on your art goals–so you can do this. It's okay to be petty, but don't act like you wouldn't have fun fleecing people with your bare minimum.
No. 2432572
>>2427455I do. I have a "fun" style I use things I want to put online in specific places. It's meant to give a certain feeling if you put it on, say, a Neocities page. I mostly use it for fanart, but it's also good for animating with since it's just high res pixel art. The purpose it serves is just pure fun and having something quick to experiment with. Sometimes it helps me pick colors and plan for my traditional pieces. I share it more with my online friends. It's actually a new thing because I realized I REALLY needed to re-learn how to make random things for fun, as I had been working in commercial art for a while and it stifled me.
The style doesn't fit my offline brand, which I sell to the public. My IRL friends know more about this one. With the exception of prints, it's fully traditional. I'm more detached with this one because the passion is there, but the end goals are different. I listen to customer feedback and seek critique when I hit a plateau because I want to keep growing. The other style is just an outlet for play.
No. 2432609
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What makes a simple art style charming and iconic for a viewer compared to say, something more detailed and "attractive" character designs like say, Disney Princess or semirealistic anime characters?
Simple art styles I like are Marjane Satrapi's and Tove Jansson's. But what exactly makes them so charming?
No. 2432698
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>>2432558The worst redesign to me is picrel. Atleast the design on the right looked cute. But then she redesigned all of them to look as sterile and uniform as possible kekk. They have no appeal and I think she knows it too since she spends more time drawing a male supporting character in the series and his sad backstory than the main characters.
No. 2432733
>>2432478>The former I agree is unlikely, but the latter happens all the time and I don't think it's bad to tell anons to practice some basic opsec to avoid that fate.Absolutely the right approach. I had been taught about internet safety during its earlier years, and took it very seriously. But minor things like buying stuff online or applying to jobs puts your info out there. Sincerely surprised it was automatically assumed that people are plastering their shit everywhere.
>>2432720ayrt For instance, here. If you do piss off the wrong bpd crazy, they can and will find you unless you're actively paranoid and use paid services to scrub the net. Some people are harder to clock as bpd-chans until it's too late.
I still say draw whatever but also maybe keep it a secret you're an artistic IRL.
No. 2432738
>>2432733nayrt but I've learned the easiest way to clock a bpdchan in a normal setting is if they come off as super kind and bubbly, and/or people pleasey. They want to be liked by everyone so they put up this facade of being the nicest person you've ever met. If someone acts like a people pleaser, or if they are too desperate to back me up in a conversation despite barely knowing me, I keep my distance. It was a hard lesson to learn, especially since I'm the type of person who can't ignore someone when they seem like they're going through a rough time. If someone doesn't like them despite the act, they start freaking out, but they try to be chill about it, usually trying to paint the other person as crazy and/or unreasonable. If you back them up in this, they'll latch onto you and then it's too late. Always get the other person's side of the story before you comfort them about this. Madoka Kaname, Fluttershy, Super Sonico, Nekopara, cutecore, anyone with those types of icons, avoid like the plague.
No. 2432751
>>2432202I'm so sorry that happened to you. I would wanna kms for the rest of my life kek. But at the end of the day she's just a regular person like you or I.
>>2432240It depends, it can make them look yassified. But I enjoy a variety of things, from thin to thick lips.
>>2431768>>2431778>all this just to be inspirational and say "nonny, if a known shotafag wasn't afraid of being herself in public and ended up landing a job at Disney, you shouldn't be afraid of putting midly controversial stuff in your art. Also, the more women stand up to trannies and hypersensitive zoomers on Twitter, the better"Based honestly
No. 2432807
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>>2432698Wait, is that legitimately the actual magical girl form? It just looks like a stylish uniform to me, I'm so confused.
>>2432711Nyart, but this is the supporting guy. Seems like she's having an intense and public OC husbando phase, which I would normally call based if it wasn't for 1. his weird as fuck facial hair and 2. a rando male supporting character overshadowing female main characters.
No. 2432941
>>2432446>>2432462This happened to me (stalking/harrassment
and impersonation by an older man). The silver lining is online attacks seem petty and not very stressful in comparison, so it's laughable if a bunch of troons and teenagers were to call me names on social media because of wrongthink. It really doesn't matter and anxious nonas need to remember they'll be fine as long as they don't post face, personal details and don't reuse pseudonyms. Avoid drawing a lot of attention to who you are, focus on what you make. Nuking and remaking an account to lay low is always an option
No. 2432986
I'm
>>2431743 and I think maybe I didn't really get my point across. It's not necessarily a fear of the
negative things that could happen like stalking or whatever, but also I guess a fear of the
positive things. I don't really want "fans." I used to think I wanted that when I was younger, I think a lot of young people do. But I think I grew out of that a while ago. I don't like people being overly nice or thinking they know me or are friends with just because they like my work. I don't like random people messaging me out of the blue, even when it's good things. I don't know why any artist on the introverted side would actually want a fanbase.
I realize that's at odds with wanting to tell a story that people actually read, but it's true. Does anyone relate?
No. 2432987
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Do any of you have a favorite ikemen artist that you follow, especially a fandom artist? I want to get better at drawing pretty boys
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>>2426359I can confirm this, years ago there was a terminally online friend of a friend who hated me because they had a big crush on one of our mutual friends, and after stalking me and my ex at the time obsessively, she made a call out post with edited screencaps of me to try and cancel me.
It was mostly people I never met and unfortunately one or two online friends did end up believing that it was real, but the internet goes on and I was soon enough yesterday's call out as more and more call outs surfaced. My friends supported me through it and I will always be thankful and one friend went to the trouble of helping me gather lots of screencaps to prove that this person had harbored a vendetta against me for a while, and I will always be grateful.
I agree with nonna that it's best to gain a healthier view of online communities and try and take time for yourself and don't overshare. I wish I could go back and slap younger me for oversharing so much of my personal life online when I was a teenager but I suspect many nonnas here have had similar experiences. It'll be okay
nonny! Most important thing is you enjoy posting the art you've enjoyed making. If you need somewhere to vent I'd suggest keeping it in private conversations with close friends or offline friends and try to keep what you post fairly neutral.
No. 2433174
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It doesnt matter how many times i practice i absolutely suck at drawing heads. Its like i cannot wrap my head around it. Its driving me nuts. I have read and tried every construction book and its impossible for me to draw heads without heavy reference.
No. 2433213
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>>2433174the loomis construction method helped me a lot
No. 2433235
>>2433225There's a weird anon on Lolcow whose
trigger word is "Loomis" and they sperg for literally hours about how the loomis method ruined a generation of artist and how everyone who uses it is a shit artist.
No. 2433245
>>2422912ngl I think jcm2 is a woman
>inb4 which blogs?jcm-2.tumblr.com and jcmapache2.tumblr.com
both are abandoned from around 2016 and there's no pedoart there so it's safe to view, go back to 2013 and look at how female it is. I'm glad you posted about jcm2 because I keep reminiscing about their work from DeviantArt and it drives me crazy. I honestly believe jcm2 was a talented girl who got groomed into pornsickness at some point in her life and now stealths as a gross man now (not even trans) to lie fairly low while drawing all this pedo shit. I could sperg about this for hours. From skimming these blogs and her dA through web archive:
>the choice of fandoms>reblogged lolita art and fashion>reblogged shirtless pyramid head cosplay>reposts and chat with other girls at the time (I think she's in her 30s so they'd be the same age)>romantic f/m art of her OCs>her OC Daner morphed into a Sachiko Kaneoya lookalike and she's reblogged her art, listed her as one of her favourite artists>lots of gift art from female artists before the Loud House/pedoshit era>roleplayed>keyboard smash typingOnly thing that throws a wrench in it is some of the people this blog interacts with also calls jcm2 male but there's lots of reasons to pretend to be a guy on the internet, even back then. I can't find some specific posts now but one was of her bedroom with stickers and fanart on the walls, some were mild crushing on some male game characters and the last was a reblog for a scrotey 2D indie hentai game.
No. 2433247
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>>2433245lol no he's a fatass latino guy.
No. 2433253
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>>2433245nona…
>>2433249when and where? I'm curious if there's any milk to him besides just drawing disgusting shit
No. 2433282
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>>2433244something like picrel. I feel like they never look this ''free'' they always feel way more stiff.
No. 2433302
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>>2433282It literally just takes practice. Make copies of artworks you like and try applying the loomis method to them. That one head is just the default
No. 2433316
>>2433237The Loomis method is just a base/guide/skeleton in order to keep the features in the right place at any angle.
>>2433282 All of these can be constructed with the method.
No. 2433340
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>>2433302>>2433316any tips on stylization? maybe thats my problem. I like a middle ground between fully animu and realistic. I like my characters to be able to emote but not look too cartoony. Its a hard middle ground imo.
No. 2433527
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>>2433282>>2433340ayrt, I'm
>>2433244Nona tbh it sounds like you're well on your way, you're just tired of copying the Loomis Man Head. Relatable.
You've probably been told this before but I'm going to repeat it: there's nothing wrong with drawing with references. Artists use reference all the time. All the crazy good painters, animators and comic book artists from the past had people posing for them and/or mirrors around them while they worked, at the very least
What I did when I had reached the point of Loomis Man Head Fatigue was
>gather pictures of heads I liked>trace the simple construction of the head on a different layer, ie deconstruct your Eguchi women into bald manikin heads>IMPORTANT. Talk to yourself while you're doing this. About proportions, shapes, what things are attached to, what volumes and planes you're seeing and not seeing>Put your simplified traced heads beside your Loomis man heads, talk to yourself about the similarities and differences.>Copy your simplified manikin heads several times, one by one. Once again, talk to yourself about what you're seeing while doing this. Please try not to rush>Then it's time to test yourself. Try to draw one of your simplified heads on a clean sheet of paper without looking.As for other art to trace besides Eguchi, I think the art from the video games Hotel Dusk and Last Window might be good for you to study. They were made by tracing and then stylizing real models. There's a variety of characters of different builds and ages. By studying them you'll be able to see the different proportions in the constructions and what the stylization choices were.
I also think you might want to check out the book How to Draw Anime and Game Characters, vol. 1, by Tadashi Ozawa. It's a simple book but he strips down construction well and points out how things like the size and placement of eyes change depending on the character you're drawing.
Everything else the other nonas said is good too
No. 2433576
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i hate this troon kek
No. 2433581
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>>2433174Have you actively studied the actual human skull? You gotta do it.
No. 2433598
>>2433584nothing, she's just a they/them who sperged out at journalists misgendering her. i said "i hate" in the "omg can't staaand her" way, not the genuine hate way kek, i just thought that photo looked goofy
>>2433591yeah same, she looks like any old asian granny/aunty which made me feel guilty in finding her annoying
No. 2433607
>>2433600Not at all but probably for posting obnoxious gendie shit
>>2433591kek I actually thought she was a kind old lady albeit a little retarded (since anon called her a tranny) until I looked up her profile
No. 2433640
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>>2433618>>2433627Yep she had her 29th birthday over a month ago
No. 2433647
>>2433640jesus christ
that can NOT just be testosterone, that's gotta be some really fucking shitty paternal genetics, drunkenfix still looks late teens-early twenties despite being well into her thirties?? i think she's at least like 33-35 now
No. 2433683
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I’m so tired of artists drawing ugly bald trope blobs
No. 2433725
>>2433692Most of the ideas people submit in this format are the most boring, bland and vanilla shit possible OR it's made specifically to ragebait people. I wish more artists who have been through genuine abuse and horrifically
toxic relationships weren't scared out of making stories that show off realistic
toxic ways abuse can rub off on
victims by people who think that writing that thing = supporting it irl.
No. 2433858
>>2433836I wonder this too. Most of the time I move just saved things to Pinterest because that’s what I’ve been used to, but I would like to know other methods people do, such as if anyone prefers to save art on a cloud drive, locally on their computer, or on an external hard drive.
And if anyone else wants to suggest certain downloaders like
>>2433842 No. 2435054
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>My art is a solid mid-tier.
>Nobody wants to commission me lately.
>Rapidly improving.
>Nobody is looking at my social media accounts.
>Weirdly I have achieved the "fuck you bitches, my art is GREAT" plateau, where I am unable to see my own flaws.
Guess I better enjoy it while it lasts kek
No. 2435094
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>>2433836>>2433858I organize the stuff I download by fandoms, social medias and authors. I mostly download art from twitter, so I use WFdownloader. It's specifically designed to download images and videos from supported websites. You can also create folders within the program and update existing batches to get newer posts from previously downloaded accounts. They have a lot of good tutorials for all that stuff on their website, so can definitely recommend