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>>2313494Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
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WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
No. 2351961
>>2351939frank w benson
>>2351942I want to get good. Read more books, do more studies, etc. My goal is to get good at construction and improve on my figure drawing skills.
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>>2351942My main resolution is to become as good as my favorite artists. I've seen lots of people say that comparing yourself to others makes you miserable but idc, when I see other artist's beautiful art, it inspires me. I feel like "shit I need to catch up". Sometimes when I feel a little too good about my own art I look at other artists to remind myself I still have a long way to go.
No. 2352165
>>2352051>HOW DO YOU FUCKING CALCULATE THE GEOMETRY PHYSICS OF THE LIGHT HITTING THE FACE AND THE SHADOWS LIGHT COOL AND DARK AND EVERYTHINGI just go by rough vibes kek
I mean if a person like me who is into art and who does put a bit of thought into it and I still can't tell exactly what is right or wrong, then the average person won't be able to tell if it's wrong either. My philosophy is "stylization over reality", if it looks cooler when the light hits a certain part perfectly then I will put the light there. I like to compare it to photographers who put lights and reflectors at specific spots to get the exact light they want; even though that would never happen naturally and it's all orchestrated through a half-second flash light it still looks good.
No. 2352241
>>2352079Thank you for that good rec
nonny >>2352165>stylization over reality Based and true I’m always scared of people nitpicking my stuff “oh this doesn’t look right and this doesn’t” well it’s a drawing not a real actual representation of what I’m drawing, why do we expect humans to get a correct mirror image of what exists in real life? I’ll look at some more photography, I also have tried to imagine the correct lighting source points but it’s too hard idk I guess you have to get really good at putting tiny little pieces together to make a bigger piece, kind of like painting
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I find this comparison a bit silly kek
No. 2353113
>>2352051look around your house, find an object (fruit is a classic and great choice). stare at it. analyse in your head how the light is hitting it, the shadows it casts (draw mental lines to understand their angles), the colours reflected onto it from nearby objects/surfaces. notice its surface texture, what material it is, how the light interacts with that. maybe move it to a new place and think about all this stuff again.
do rendered studies of your object, colour and value-only, with your prior observations in mind. don't make assumptions, make observations.
you can also just wing it, sure, but you'll improve your ability to feel out lighting from imagination just by practising your observation skills (this goes for all aspects of art tbh), let alone if you take the time to do proper studies. if you want your art to have even stylised realism, you first have to pay attention and study the real thing (rendering is so much easier to practice when you have something to guide you). also yeah don't forget you can always tweak things to suit the art more, and bullshit lighting can still look good and intentional if it's clearly a compositional element or adds punches of interest. have fun with it.
No. 2354314
>>2351942draw more and get good. i've said this in past threads but my art is so middle school student-ish compared to artists my age, so my plan is to catch up. i've probably drawn more this year than in the past two, for example. and i have no excuse to slack off because i'm a neet with no responsibilities, i'm just insanely depressed.
i do get a little demotivated when my art gains little attention in discord art channels or socmed, but i know i have to get eye-catchingly good in order to get that attention i crave.
>>2354226same. sometimes i'd want to see an ai copy of my art only to see how the machine does it.
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>>2351942Finish a short comic and make a few on demand copies of it
I want to get better at drawing backgrounds, both nature, and rooms/buildings. I want to create backgrounds that really tell you about the character/tell a story
Create pieces that have more interactions between multiple parties
Get better at water color. Finsish a certain water color piece
Improve at perspective/foreshortening
All this combined, I really want to create the evocative images I've had in my head for years. Art that transports you to the place you're rendering, and that I hope people other than myself can find both impressive, fun, and beautiful! I've really put myself into a strict hole of what I'm capable of. Only black and white character illustrations, but I realized theres just so much I can't do, and don't fully have the skills for, so I march forward for the first time in ages. Luckily I really enjoy this process. I feel like I'm giving my brain an exercise
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>>2336625Can you post some examples?
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Tbh, I think something about only drawing furries for the majority of time you’ve practiced art stagnates you like nothing else. Maybe it’s just drawing similar subjects over and over again? Because I notice furries don’t really draw backgrounds, and the ones they do draw have bad perspective and or lighting. They don’t really draw anything else but anthros either, so maybe that contributes to the issue as well. Does anyone else notice this; or am I insane?
No. 2355508
>>2355468french furfags are the best artists though
>>2355362they probably handicap themselves because they only draw that vague disneyish lion king style when they could be trying to make furries or different animal species
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>>2355362>it’s just drawing similar subjects over and over again?It's absolutely this. And this applies to any subgenre of art. Look at moid artists who only draw women with big tits and Keira Knightley faces. Ask them to draw an old woman, or an animal, and they'll choke. The only way to become a better artist, period, is to practice drawing all sorts of stuff: machinery, animals, historical stuff, landscapes, etc. This is why, I think, women artists will eventually beat out men. Because we're not
only drawing stuff just to jerk off to.
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>>2157638Joke's on you, it's working out (at least in my humble opinion). We're working on rough prototype stuff right now. The programmer anons are sorceresses.
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Is it my algorithm or does every eastern euro weeaboo draw like this now
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>>2356686nona, sorry for being this spoonfed, but… can you point out the game dev thread? i would like to learn to design and develop a game as a personal goal this year. tysm!
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>>2355362I don't think its due to drawing the same subject over and over, but the refusal to actually practice fundies and such. Lots of them have a "muh style" mentality and just copy Disney/mediocre artists the way some artists nowadays simpy copy Pinterest tutorials on rendering instead of actually learning.
I follow picrel (@aruurara) just because I love how he uses colors and composition. His art makes me cringe often but he has a good technique, he has shown practiving anatomy before so it's evident he actually puts effort on improving even today. So there are good furfags out there, but your run of the mil warriorcat artist won't be good. I also have a feeling that the ones who want to make cool shit eventually move on making fursuits rather than 2D art.
No. 2357576
>>2357570That's just how 90% of his pieces are like kek
I love how he made the clevage bigger for the final sketch/lineart too.
No. 2357593
>>2357591Yes but it's only
valid if the source you're copying from is actually good. 99% of Pinterest and Tiktok art tutorials are hot shit made by amateurs with weak fundies so copying those is worthless and can give you more bad habits than any actual improvement.
No. 2357601
>>2357591This
>>2357593, but also these people tent to think their art is good just because they can render good eyes or hair, meanwhile their other skills (anatomy, perspective, etc) is severly lacking and they refuse to improve them. Art is a combination of many skills.
Of course if all you want to draw is rendermaxxed pretty girl facing 1/4, you do what you do, but I was replying to a post about stagnation, which is what many of these artist suffer of (be it their goal or not)
No. 2357746
>>2357629Might be unnecessary to you, but some people just enjoy drawing and don't care about the time spent on each piece. I have seen him using models to make compositions and such before though.
Also that's just 1/2-point perspective on that drawing, they're the simplest and fastest perspectives out here lol I don't think 3D models would've saved him too much time (now, things like
>>2343388 on other hand…)
No. 2358610
>>2358425Try to think of colors as a spectrum. There's 'light colors' like yellow, cyan or pink. And there's 'dark colors' like blue, red, brown, etc.
When mixing colors, it's a good idea to darken them or lighting them up by using another color and not white or black. If you want to make a colder blue, add a little brown. If you want to make a lighter blue, add a little yellow. If your piece has already advanced quite a bit, use the colors you've used in the piece to lighten or darken the new ones, this will give your piece some cohesion. Also, I recommend looking to the technique of 'glazing', which is basically adding an extra layer of very diluted paint to a finished piece to make the colors a bit more uniform. I recently found out about it and the before and after difference is subtle for very elegant.
No. 2358617
>>2358425>AcrylicsWhat brand are you using? The cheaper brands have more filler than pigment, and the pigments are mixed in most of the paints (earth tones are really cheap pigments so they're normally OK but I've seen some brands pad those out as well). So you're not mixing two colors of paint, you're mixing a whole bunch of colors together. It's going to look muddy. That's not you being a retard, it's the paint.
Get student or professional grade paints and learn your pigments, don't just look at the colors. Cool and warm toned shades of a color do make a difference when you're mixing.
Golden have some sets that go on sale for really good prices, and Liquitex do some beginner sets.
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>>2358715I can't believe this is the skill level of a SVA grad, going into all that debt for nothing.
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This artist pops up often in my feed and while I think some of her pieces are very good, I think she's been stagnating so badly lately. Pretty much all of her drawings are like picrel, same subject matter, same colors, same elements, same lazy shading, same ugly red lines in random spots (I wish she would get rid of them because they ruin the pic). She posted the sketch of this drawing and it was so much more interesting with the darker background and less fucking blue.
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My favorite female warrior cats artist came out as a gendie recently. I'm not surprised since the fandom is infested with these types, but I suppose it was a little surprising for her. I wish I could enjoy Warrior Cats without this stuff being all over it.
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Loomis, Meyers, asaro. No matter how I go about studying the construction of the head/face it always looks funky and wrong. It's gotten to the point where I avoid drawing heads/faces and only focus on other anatomy or critters in my studies. I just want to draw my favorite vg characters, but God I don't know what's wrong with me. I understand the concept of constructing the head/face fine,but the actual execution is just ass. Does any nonnie have advice for this?
No. 2359703
>>2359691Practice
nonny. Its the only solution.
No. 2359887
>>2359691I second
>>2359702 try freehanding it as a rough sketch so you can get a better idea which part you're struggling with.
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>>2359870i love how these people are so afraid of the whitewashing boogeyman they created they believe dark skinned people arent affected by sunlight and therefore dont have highlights. I cant tell whats going on in her shitty ass art.
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>>2359900I was the most productive when I was really, and I mean
really, into a game. I got insanely happy whenever I thought about the characters and I was even happier when I finished a drawing of them. I ended up making at least three a day, sometimes more sometimes less elaborate. I still think that my brain was simply producing a normal amount of serotonin for once because I liked that fucking game so much. It affected every area of my life, like suddenly I didn't have problems getting out of bed anymore because I wanted to draw and I got assignments done quickly because I wanted to draw and so on. You basically just have to find a subject you really love and you'll be able to push past any negative feelings. Once you start fully enjoying what you're drawing you'll stop craving outside validation too. Just think about things you actually love and start focusing on them and nothing else. It can't be something you like or find interesting on a surface level.
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>>2359940These people seem scared to draw attractive Black characters and/or Black characters with highlights and they all turn into a muddy mess. How are you supposed to watercolor paint dark-skinned characters without whitewashing them I wonder kek
No. 2360501
>>2359870I agree on her points in the trending art style portion of the video where she said that you should be able to take in multiple artists' styles and pick up their line confidence and mental library.
but then she started talking about how none of the trendy art styles are "inclusive" and don't focus on fat people/ethnic people like ok girl. I can sense her being biased cause nowadays drawing fat and/or ethnic characters is very much in, especially with this whole y2k trend in the younger art community right now. her only view of the art community is whatever is on tiktok methinks
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>>2359940Holy shit, are people really afraid of highlights that much??
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>>2351942I got myself a blackwing notebook and I'm struggling to fill it in. So far I only have circles and hatch scratches. but I yearn to draw my husbando, but my art is too weak for that.
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I remember when people would blab about how artists should support other artists but all I have been seeing online are them terrorizing each other and never lifting them up. They all accuse each other of being pedophiles, AI artists and predators. Nobody wants to work on their own stuff and create art everyone can enjoy, just make relatable memes and point the finger at everyone they don't like. Is this because these type of people left Tumblr?
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>>2360699>I yearn to draw my husbando, but my art is too weak for thatngmi
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>>2361112Just stumbled across this artist and their entire account absolutely reeks of troon behaviour even if it's not explicitly written down anywhere in bio/rts. Question to nonas: do you think my observation is wrong/right and if you do agree, what makes it so easy for us women to instinctually suss out TIM art creeps like this one?
https://x.com/zuKii3_Mii No. 2361841
>>2361824I think it's an actual woman with a hikineet
femcel larp.
No. 2361842
>>2361824I think it's an actual woman with a hikineet
femcel larp.
No. 2361849
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>>2360699Stop being afraid to draw your husbando and just do it. If I hadn't been so scared of not doing mine justice I would probably have 1000 drawings of him by now. Don't be like me anon. Draw your husbando and keep on doing it. You'll improve and your husbando will be so impressed and proud of you.
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>>2361824These photos remind me when actual women would draw themselves reading yaoi or staying cooped up in their room. Then moids quickly got boners from the thought of women being degenerate like them (except not at all like them) and now we're dealing with an army of le cute anime girl going on the computer?! Woman on the computer and drinking soda, with a little clutter on her desk??????? Oh my hecking goodness!
No. 2361873
>>2361842>lain>random anime girls with jesse pinkman>girls last tour>yotsuba with random men with guns, not even twinks just full on masked military men>welcome to the nhk chickthis is absolutely not a woman kek hikkineet
femcel women do like madoka magica but they like the aesthetic of visual novels more if that's the route they're gonna go.
>>2361824they have no imagination. it's all just depressive doomer shit, just anime girls standing around looking sad or saying some quote like it's okay to be yourself or that they wanna kill themselves so bad. women actually give a fuck about giving art some kind of meaning or giving life and personality to characters that aren't the anime girls they wish they could skinwalk. also, women enjoy individual aesthetics, so if there's anime on here, i'd also expect some cutecore or scenecore or something. some type of decorations on the art besides just the gritty feeling of a male living space. depressed women also tend to have a "heehee! i'm a girly girl with a girly secret!" thing when drawing, they aren't normally so explicit to draw a noose around their neck with a beer in the picture, it's about how you're struggling but you have to pretend you're not because society expects women to be seen and not heard. men bitch and whine all the time about how women are so "sensitive" but that's why women are so prone to developing people pleasing tendencies, because they want us to shut the fuck up, and that's how our art gets so creative in comparison, it's the only outlet we have and we have a lot of time to stew on our thoughts. meanwhile, moids just eternally jerk themselves off to how "logical" they are that they lose all creativity and that's how you get shit like what you posted.
>>2361869kek, love how you posted that image right as i typed all that up, it really is the difference.
No. 2361955
>>2360394It feels like they don't like what an art book or even a YouTube video tell them how to make a good skin tone without looking muddy.
Back in the old days it was "I don't need to learn anatomy/color because that's my style". They sound like "I don't need to learn anatomy/color theory because it's a yp invention to erase
poc that do not fit their canons".
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>>2359870Why do so many beginners try to make tutorials or lecture people? I get this is her own opinion video, but she's also trying to give advice and go into what works and does and what artists SHOULD do when she doesn't have a basic understand of color or value. Not just a beginner artist vibing. She's shitting on Cooleen and say she doesn't know fundamentals when her art looks like picrel.
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>>2362071SA but her tearing down Kooleen's facial expressions and trying to give advice on how to draw them is sheer delusion. What ever happened to humility and introspection?
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>>2361824I was too late, I guess this one's a farmer
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>>2362176Probably privated because someone called him out for tracing
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>first time in months I can sit down and draw
>its ass now
I'm trying to make a set of reference sheets for later to make a comic but my art has degraded terribly, I just don't have time to sit and practice and retrain what I built up over years
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>>2358715I've been doing reflecting on why Twisted Disaster annoys me so much and aside from the complaining constantly about so much things, the troon bullshit (her constant need to say "AFAB") and how her life is so hard and difficult when most of the things are self-imposed o herself (her weight that contributes to her chronic pain) or just blowing things out of proportion that normal people have to deal with, I think it's non self-awareness of her position in where she's at that annoys me the most. I think it's great that she has the circumstance to do her freelance art full-time because her husband makes enough money to cover most costs. She can try to deny this but it's the truth because there's no way she could support herself on just her art. So I don't begrudge her for taking advantage of the opportunity but I just wish she was more honest and aware of her circumstance.
It's annoying how she has the nerve to think that her "job" is just as demanding and difficult as those of us who work 9 to 5 IRL jobs when she's prone to taking so many "personal days" to not work on her commissions and has an ass long backlog queue that spans months to even a year or two to where she's lucky she hasn't had her clients make some "Artist Beware" post on her. If this were a job similar to those of a 9 to 5 conventional job, she would've been fired long ago. I'm not saying that freelance artists' work is not a "job", it can pay and can pay well, I'm not arguing against that but I just wish she would just shut up about the semantics because anyone older than her zoomer friends can see right through her embellishing and see that being a full-time freelance artist is not really the same as working a desk job at an office or on a construction site.
On a different note, she's been so excited about her new "chibi style" (picrel) and she says that they sell like crazy at conventions and I'm just sat here scratching my head because I don't think her chibi style looks all that great and I'm surprised that they would sell as much as she says they do. Curious what other anons who like chibi art thinks of them. I honestly think her old chibi style was slightly better because they worked with her wonky cartoon proportions.
No. 2362701
>>2361855nta but I think she meant that these artists who avoid highlights when depicting dark skin tones would struggle with the concept of leaving areas of the paper white/near white for lighting when using watercolours because idk that would be making the skin lighter/whitewashed or something in their minds and therefore bad, not that it can't be done.
Skin of any shade is so fun and interesting to paint, it's sad there's all this weirdness surrounding it these days as it discourages people from actually learning
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What are the stylistic differences between bad angles and exaggerated angles as a stylistic choice?
Picrel is a behind the scenes look at Stone Ocean OP 1, if you watch the opening you probably wouldn't even know notice that some of the key poses were 3D smears.
But how did the animators manage to make these wacky poses work without looking ridiculous or amateurish?
Picrel is 3D but I want to know more how to do stylized angles in 2D—since in 3D you can "cheat" by moving the camera and/or limbs, which you can't do in say, traditional art.
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>can’t draw for shit anymore
>anatomy is just way too hard for me to understand and learn at this point
Is this the moment when you just accept you’re not really good at art? I’ve made some decent pieces before and want to express my creativity but I feel like my mind and drawing is disconnected from it, I feel like my creativity is just not going into my art at all and I keep drawing the same shit which is just floating anime girls with soulless eyes and I don’t even watch or like anime as much as I used to when I was a kid. I don’t really draw anymore but it makes me sad knowing I don’t really have a good outlet for my creativity anymore. I know this is the art thread but is there anything similar to art where I could actually feel connected to it?
No. 2362819
>>2362773Tbh even singers need to voice train and if they stop they sound out of practice. I tried listening to a remastered song and the new vocals sounded out of tune and tone-deaf. Also a manga artist I was a fan of must've stopped drawing because her latest commercial work was so bad I actually can't even remember her name anymore because I blocked it out. If you don't want to draw anymore that's okay, you are allowed to find new skills to learn, variety is the spice of life as they say. What creative activities do you want to do often?
A suggestion could be learning an instrument; or learning to cook or bake; there's even sculpting with air dry clay where you could make your own dolls/figures, that way your drawing skills have a purpose because you are using them to make a blueprint design, but also at the same time they're not the main focus.
No. 2362820
>>2362778>dopamine filled fun hobbies >like anime >like vidya But art is fun though
>>2362811I feel like I want to express myself through fashion/fashion focused art, that’s why I feel like I just wasn’t satisfied with just drawing art.
No. 2362982
>>2362764breaking a model like this works in 3D because of things like camera properties and position– it's all about getting an exaggerated form of foreshortening. It's also only present for a very brief time due to being a smear frame, so jank won't be as noticeable so long as it's doing its job well (and any effects or adjustments during compositing will also help blend it in). As someone who 3D animates, it's not uncommon to 'break' a rig to get one shot that doesn't show the broken part kek, I don't think it's the best inspo for trying to draw extreme poses/angles.
As for 2D art, try looking at exaggerated perspective photography for reference, but more importantly have a strong foundation in anatomy and perspective, the ability to break down a subject, and try to stick to actions that are technically possible– eg, the kick in you picrel is possible, just exaggerated in motion and how it will appear to the viewer. You need to see how far you can push something before it just looks silly and broken. Other things that'll help is taking your own reference pictures of yourself to get the desired angle for a specific pose to work from, keeping clear/readable silhouettes, and doing gesture drawings with a focus on force and motion. Look at 2D art and animation that achieves what you want to and break it down.
Lastly, have fun!
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Since there have now been a handful of nonas coming here to doompost about their anime art skills that haven’t really evolved since their teenage golden years of drawing in a sketchbook during class or using SAI, I have advice for you. You need start by cutting out your old influences entirely. I don’t care where: anime, games, manga, webtoons, pixel art, whatever. Cut out the crap, like I did. Then go and look at older artists. Nothing post-1980s. Do you like any early American illustraters? French neo-classical artists? Pre-raphaelites? Romantic painters? Baroque dramatists? Renaissance masters? Go to art galleries if they’re accessible to you and if they’re not, use free image sources online or watch documentaries on YouTube (there are plenty of both). Once you’ve spent some time on your masters’ journey, work your way back to modern art (in the literal sense) and trace the thread of older techniques you’ve now learned to the work you see today, all the way back until you return to the internet. Now you will be able to look at your online influences with fresh eyes. Does that League artist you used to like actually have good fundamentals or is their splash art a loud, jumbled, murky mess with no compositional structure? Can you spot any artists who seem to have had some classical training/self-taught the masters? From my experience, this exercise of rejecting your habits and working from the ground up is the only way of fully rejuvenating your lifeline as an artist who flourished in their teens with fandom/OC stuff and inevitably gets stuck in their early 20s. Good luck.
P.S. To clarify: you are allowed to return to anime slop when you’re done; it’s about the process of relearning art from square 1. Now you can draw anime slop but much more impressively, kek.
No. 2363088
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>>2358715>>2362627Fair enough. I guess I just prefer chibi designs that have a bit more detail to them. I was never really into the super small proportion ones.
>>2358715So I watched one of her recent streams and she mentioned how she's looking for a part time job but her job search criteria is just as delusional as it was a year ago. I get why she noped out of a job interview offer where they essentially said that she may only get a one day a week at more than likely 4-5 hours but I have a feeling that she's going to fall into delusion again where she thinks she should be able to get a part-time job that pays above minimum wage that isn't Amazon or a factory type job. And I don't think she'll want to work at McDonalds since her "chronic illness" (her obesity) will make it uncomfortable for her. But this woman has been out of work since like 2014/2015 and she has a huge gap in employment history to where I don't think she'll be able to find anything that fits her requirements.
No. 2363208
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>>2363176NTA, the trick is that you find a old master or old movement that you really really like or find interesting. Art should occasionally feel like homework because you do need to keep consistency with studies but you have to find out how to make it fun. For example, one could make a study of picrel and then draw it again in a animu style with I don't know, Falin or whatever as the subject using the skills they learnt from that simple study.
No. 2363350
>>2363176You don't have to only study and then make your own stuff, it's not linear. I hate doing fundies as well so what I do is to use them as warm-ups (doing 15 minutes of perspective for example) or doing a full session of it after 2 of free drawing. I progress slower, but I progress.
Similar to what
>>2363208 said, if I'm doing master studies I sometimes change the subject of the painting and for example, instead of that picrel I would change that woman to any character I like (but keeping the painting's clothes, background, etc most of the time). A plus of this, aside from making the study more entertaining, is that people on Twitter/social media eat up these kind of "animu character but is a renaissance painting" a lot, so you kill two birds with one stone kek.
On the how to improve, the first thing is to have a clear goal, if all you do is copying it won't help you much. Also remember you don't have to copy a whole painting, just the part you need is ok.
For example, if you have trouble with shadows, spend some time analyzing her face or fabric, writting down the volumes you see and how light interacts with them. If it's colors, you can try to freehand them trying to be as close as the painting, or color-picking them and try drawing a different piece with them using the original painting as a guide on which ones put together etc.
I have a difficult time with faces, and one thing I like is to crop heads of many different paintings (realistic, anime, I don't mind), trace the overall shape, hide the original image and analyze the simply trace in search of stuff in common between them.
Copying a painting (just the "lineart", don't color), then putting on a layer under it the original one and mark where you made mistakes is a good pracice as well, that way you can easily see where your perception is the most weak at (maybe you accidentally make arms too short, eyes too big, etc) and you can correct it.
No. 2364068
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>>2363176Do a study then apply it to your weeb and comicslop
No. 2364977
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Question, does anyone here know how to limit the amount of pressure a tablet gives off? I have two tablets. A regular drawing tablet that's a Wacom PTH-651 and a digital screen tablet Gaomon PD1560. The Wacom PTH-651 feels wonderful to draw on, but I love using my Gaomon to draw comics as I can see directly what I'm drawing. It goes faster too. However, I've noticed a stark difference in drawing feel. It's far easier to sketch and do line variance with my PTH-651 tablet than it is to do with my PD1560. Every time I try to draw a thin line on my screen tablet it comes out thick and clunky, no variance at all and I have to actively make my brush way smaller than necessary to create thin feathery strokes. I believe this might have to do with the pen pressure on each one, the Wacom PTH-651 has 2048 levels and the Gaomon PD1560 has 8192 levels. I come here to ask if anyone here happens to know a way to limit the amount of sensitivity in my screen tablet? Such as a program to use? This is seriously annoying me that I'm debating selling the screen tablet I do have for a screen tablet with similar specs to my PTH-651. Thank you.
No. 2365270
>>2365250I draw nsfw but it doesn't really require me to look at ugly ass irl porn unless i need something specific. Usually intensive anatomy studies and how the body moves and how bodies interact with one another is enough.
Do you plan on drawing people fucking or just pin up? You can use 3d models for reference though it may limit you because they can lack weight.
No. 2365838
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My current art process is tracing a pose from a reference, adding clothing and hair and folds and all that jazz, and then continuing to render. Should I aspire to not trace poses if I want to get better? My anatomy sucks. Should I copy poses instead of trace them? What do you guys do with constructing anatomy and composition? I'm not an beginner I promise
No. 2365919
>>2365838It depends on how seriously you want to take art, but yes copying is 10x better than tracing. But the way you do things doesn’t seem too bad, drawing from reference is always best.
After filling out a lot of sketchbooks really fast, I’m a 100% believer in quantity over quality, and in the iterative method.
Whenever you set out to draw something, draw it at sketch it at least 50 times before hand. (Say you want to make a good illustration featuring a penguin, I think you should copy 50 penguins from pictures). It might seem like a lot but trust me it is worth it, you just have to draw fast.
If you suck at anatomy, draw 1000 figures (2-5 minutes per figure, maybe focusing on specific limbs or areas that interest you most). The you’ll be a bit better. That’s my only advice…
No. 2366131
>>2365838Tracing is like cheating on a test, but copying is like studying for it. You don't seriously learn anything by tracing, but by copying you actually have to put serious effort into making it look accurate, and that effort is gonna stick with you. When I was first learning to draw, I would copy a lot of gainax and
trigger shit, the artists they have on their team are seriously good.
No. 2366510
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>>2366508Rossdraws using ai
No. 2366592
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>>2366508Not a surprise, he seems like the type to do that. I have to admit this part made chuckle
No. 2366663
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>>2366657wasnt he cancelled for drawing a irl 14yo girl like a blowup doll
No. 2366677
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>>2366625This part definitely makes it seem like he uses AI to me, just waiting until he feels like it won't be a PR disaster to admit it
>>2366594Skimmed it and a lot of it is definitely overblown but the part about him seating his friends/employees by race and calling the black guy a diversity hire was pretty weird
>>2366663That's a different guy
No. 2366817
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I wish i was into waifus, drawing male bodies is hell. Not only is it almost impossible to find good quality refs, but the appeal of the male body is often so subtle its hard to ''wing it''. I cope by telling myself that i will def mog waifufags in the future with all the studies required to become good at drawing male bodies, but i still wish drawing sexy husbandos was as easy as slapping two balloons to an hourglass figure.
No. 2366897
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>>2366817Look at Greek and Roman sculpture for sex appeal like picrel, also ‘rugby bodies’ on men have a kind of universal appeal to look at so you could try looking that up as well.
No. 2367259
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>>2367251Nta but thank you so much!
No. 2367281
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So if any gamedev anons are in here, we're looking for more people to join in. Our group has been whittled down to just two. So if you've got skills applicable to gamedev (programming, modeling, UI/UX, etc.), please reply to this post expressing interest. Programming anons take higher priority at this point. We're working in UE5.
No. 2367330
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>>2366897>>2367188>>2367251those bodies arent appealing to me, sorry. I meant sexy bishie bodies like picrel. But thanks for the recs i bet some nonnas into bulky guys will enjoy them.
No. 2367374
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>>2366625Ross using AI on his art isn't new though, he has been experimenting with AI for a few years now, such as picrel (from 2022). Around that time he made multiple "soft" posts about AI as if trying to test the waters on how people would react implying it was something he really wanted to use and experiment with. It wouldn't surprise me if he saw some negative feedback and decided to just continue using AI but keeping quiet about it.
No. 2367386
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she should just make them lesbians
No. 2367398
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>>2367386Is she going to redesign what she looked like pre-transition then? I can buy her being tall, but testosterone doesn't change your jawline.
No. 2367431
>>2367386What's bizarre to me is that she's still changing a bunch of stuff all the time even though she already has a show in production.
Did she and the studio actually have anything already conceptualized when they announced the series?
No. 2367436
>>2367386i forget the guy is a tif, should've made it an actual man then. though
>>2367398 looks too cute to be wasted.
No. 2367471
>>2367386>he grew them back That comment makes me weep for this generation. Do they not understand biology? Once they’re gone, they’re gone.
Also barginbin Trent looks retarded.
>>2367398Cuter design here. She should stick with this.
No. 2367638
>>2367386>please don't put him in wrappingsit's literally the early 2000s in this series, that's what was most readily available for transgender men to bind their chests (other than doubling a sports bra or something)
idk something about that phrasing just annoys me
No. 2367713
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>>2367386This is literally just a TIF ripoff of Trent from Daria
No. 2367791
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>A comic got second place in a Japanese contest
>Is about a guy with a scar who gets bullied while being BFF with a tim who gets beaten by his dad because he is a faggot
Funny, usually the bl themes are about a moid and a tif.
No. 2367997
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What do you struggle the most at nonnies? faces are so hard to draw for me, especially eyes. There is a subtlety that i struggle to achieve. They either end up looking too stiff and emotionless(capeshit) or too flat and boring(anime).
No. 2368015
>>2367997trees are my nemesis.
I can draw animals, from insects to fish to birds to mammals/humans no problem, easy as piss, but by god do my trees look like shit. Decided this year I'm going to do at least two pages of botanical illustration per page of animals because I am tired of my whack backgrounds (or situating everything in generic canyons/desert like an 80s cartoon kek)
No. 2368113
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Personal cow of mine got busted for using AI to assist. Been craving her downfall after watching her antics in a primarily moid dominated online community. Her art suddenly got Real Good nearly overnight.
No. 2368117
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samefag
Someone else compiled it. Apparently happened last year.
No. 2368126
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>>2368117I hate mobile so much; sorry for the spam.
January 2024 right
No. 2368127
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>>2368126 (samefag)
March 2024
After she gets called put KEK
No. 2368460
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Has the artist lilyglazed who now goes by itslyssalala on Twitter ever been mentioned here? Most of the drama surrounding her happened around a year or two ago. These are some of the things that happened
>was a popular genshin artist, mainly drew yume art of female protag with male characters
>all the het art she drew made a lot of those twitter dykes angry, saying she drew “canonically lesbian characters” as straight even though none of the characters sexuality is confirmed obviously
>would always act like a victim, pull the “akshally im ace, not a straight woman”, cries to followers very often
>extremely guilt trippy, especially about her being disabled and relying on disability checks and how she can’t go outside because of her phobia of people
>was often attacked by the genshin fandom, had drama often and even callout posts were made which caused her to get into panic attacks
>definitely got a bad rep in some circles of twitter but at the same time has a very supportive follower base
And the thing that gets me the most is how she always talks about how poor she is, opening commissions often, how much she relies on her disability checks but yet she’s always posting her expensive toy collections. She’s remade her account several times and her latest tweet is about her taking a break because she’s in a terrible mood but I checked her Reddit and she’s been actively posting, sharing photos of her collections in various subreddits kek.
One of them is popmart and she’s posting entire sets, those easily cost over $120 usually. Username is u/alyssaryn in case anyone wanted to check her post history.
Please tell me im not the only one who knows her, she has so much cow potential and there’s gotta be at least one other Nona who’s heard of her before. Pic rel is an example of her off-putting sympathy-fishing way of talking, the disabled chick who uses her monthly checks for consoomerism
No. 2368463
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>>2368460Almost forgot another big point of her
>draws ocs of big popular artists and tags them, definitely a clout chaser Anyway this is her art style in case it helps someone recognize her
No. 2368472
>>2368460>>2368463Samefagging again but I googled “lilyglazed lolcow” and two results came up, the second one from two years ago in particular caught my attention:
“lilyglazed, a famous genshin artist, always begs for funds because of her disability and medical insurance and being a poor starving artist but she actually spends THOUSANDS on gacha games…
i may not be disabled but i can't afford to gamble like this wtf”
I completely forgot about her genshin whaling. For those who are not aware, the cost of getting a C6 character in genshin (which is basically you getting a character 7 times) can cost up to a THOUSAND dollars. She has rolled for many characters in that gacha game, I remember seeing her talking about stress rolling because it made her happy and how she may have spent a bit to indulge herself. I can’t even imagine how much total money she spent on that game jesus
No. 2368477
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Last post I’ll make about lilyglazed. I forgot another detail kek, about how she threatened to kill herself pic related. Her lore runs deep tbh(put it all in one post next time please this isn't a chatroom)
No. 2368484
>>2368460I know her and it's true she's a massive cow kek. I think some of her art was cute actually but she's not the first artist to make her disability her entire personality. Her main trait is causing drama then playing the
victim role and suicide bait. It's likely that she's impulsive and too dumb to properly manage her finances and ends up spending her entire savings on gambling and plushie collections, that's why she always come back crawling begging for more money. The genshin fandom is so mentally ill, probably half of their famous artists are cows.
No. 2368493
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>>2368484To be fair, she did stop drawing genshin art long time ago and I think remember her saying she doesn’t want to associate with the fandom anymore because of past experiences which is understandable. Honestly I just pity her more than anything, it’s obvious she has some psychological/mental problems.
On another note im looking at her post history and keking at this. She deleted the post but luckily someone posted what the image was
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>>2368493And not the first time Reddit users haven’t given her the typical sugarcoated responses she always fishes for
No. 2368667
>>2367627Sage but there have been quite a number of Tifs who, after getting the chop, regret it and have said they hope their breasts can grow back. I can’t believe it’s a joke anymore.
>>2367997Edges of all types, and landscapes like tree anon.
No. 2368736
>>2367627>>2368667I remember seeing old "psa" posts about needing revisions or multiple surgeries in cases where the breast tissue "grows back". I have seen this leading to more than one misconception, including growing your breasts back in after a double masectomy. Add in tims pretending that taking estrogen "grows" true and honest woman breasts, it is not far fetched these dorks really believe this, even if they say so in a joking manner.
>>2351942Do more studies, commit to practicing skills.
No. 2368871
>>2368502I think it would be a shame if you did so! Color is so lovely. It’s probably not an issue with your rendering but more so with your value placement and color choices. Most of the time what kills a rendered piece is muddy colors and awkward shape language.
Have you ever tried rendering using only hard brushes/lasso tool and using a grayscale layer to check your values? That could help.
No. 2369146
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Has anyone gone to the Norman Rockwell museum? Is it worth it? i am going to the USA next year and i really want to check it out. Does anyone have recs of good museums in the USA that exhibit old american art?
No. 2369187
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>>2367398I really dislike the same body syndrome she has, all girls are curvy all guys are twigs. the genderbends she did might be slightly more interesting if she didnt just essentially switch alexs + kates heads. Why is alex a stick as a ""boy"" but boobs and hips for days as a girl, shes cute but atleast make her flat as a girl so her post-transing out design would seem slightly more likely. give boy kate an ass………
No. 2369205
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>>2369203I feel like she has never set foot in America. I dont think its impossible for non americans to write about american characters living in the USA, the cipher author did it just fine. But she also travelled to the USA and didnt care as much about the authenticity, she was a proud westaboo. I feel like Ari wants her comic to be a true and honest representation of chicanos in the early 00s, and she will never achieve that for obvious reasons.
No. 2369221
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Is it possible to warp a text in CSP? i need to warp a logo on a tshirt and its driving me nuts. I got very old cracked version of CSP.
No. 2369226
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>>2369221You can transform text after you turn it into a regular layer. CSP isn't really made for graphic design
No. 2369229
>>2369226god bless you
nonny, thanks a lot
No. 2369231
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>>2369187Girl Alex is thicker than Kate is. This is supposed to be a troon by the way. Girl Alex is a troon. It's absurd to me that she can't draw a girl without sexualizing the hell out of her. It's like every woman she draws needs to have her pussy nearly out for her to be considered a woman.
No. 2369252
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>>2365180So there's actually been quite a bit that has happened with her and I'll give you the quick notes lol.
>She tried looking for a job in 2024 but was unsuccessful because 1 of them was a scam and the other one wasn't going to pay her 15-20/hr.>Was also going to try to work at a bar but backed out when she learned what barbacks really had to do which seemed to be too much for her because of her "chronic illness" (her obesity).>Now uses a cane to walk around with that she was ecstatic to get because she's having balance issues that she says comes from her "chronic illness" (again, pretty sure that her obesity also doesn't help with these issues but doesn't seem to realize that).>She's been doing art full time since at least 2016 or 2017/>You are correct that her husband is a mechanic and also a teacher at an engineering school. He makes a decent amount to keep them afloat even though she insists that she makes at least over minimum wage through her art to cover costs (I'm pretty sure she just makes enough to cover her mobile, internet, and maybe groceries).>She did get a job at Taco Bell but only lasted 2 days. She says she left because the staff were "racist".>Her and her husband got into a poly relationship back in early to mid 2024, the "third" person was Holly C Brown (yes, the artist). Apparently Michie was the one who wanted it and was not forced by her husband.>It felt like the main reason why Michie wanted to date Holly was so that she could start blabbing about how "queer" she is as she always felt the need to speak up on LGB topics with the whole "As a Queer person">After a few months, the polycule breaks up due to "complications" (wouldn't be surprised if it was jealousy amongst one of them).>Bonus: After the breakup, Holly Brown has come out as a "transman" and is trying to get on testosterone (not sure if she got it or not).>Bonus 2: Michie mentions that she went through a "traumatic" friend breakup towards the end of 2024 but didn't say who it was. Speculation suggests that it was a fallout with Holly Brown because Holly hasn't been on Michie's streams in months after their breakup and Holly hasn't seemed to mentioned her neither.>She's started looking for work again but is still not having luck because of the pay and hour requirements she wants but doesn't seem to realize how she's being unrealistic because of her 5+ years employment gap and her friends don't seem to call our her delusion.And that's pretty much it so far. She's still trying to sell at conventions but the last few haven't gone so well for her though the last one was because of the fires that happened in where she lives.
No. 2369540
>>2368486ayrt thanks anon, I actually watched this one for uni a while ago kek, but it's good to be reminded of it.
I think one of my main problems with trees is convincingly depicting their randomness and complexity without it looking too forced or stealing the focus by having too much detail. It's also hard for me to tell whether at least part of my trees' shittiness is an assumption on my part or a legitimate concern kek, and I hate drawing generic plants rather than specific/identifiable ones. I just want to be able to do full landscape backgrounds of my local area and incorporate its flora into my art. I've been studying hard since making my New Year's resolution and am seeing some improvement, and have been using
The Artistic Anatomy of Trees by Rex Vicat Cole as a guide, as well as watching videos of others sketching and painting.
No. 2369905
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Why is it so hard to escape uglyness in female art spaces nowadays? i remember being able to scroll DA and see nothing but pretty naruto men shirtless. Now its impossible to scroll shitter without being jump-scared by some walled fat scrote with rats under their armpits. I dont care if women with shit taste want to seclude themselves into their shit taste corner, but why do they need to invade the spaces of women who dont want to see that. If i see another fat Leon or LADS guy drawn with body hair i am going to beat up someone.
No. 2369945
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>>2369221I don't get memes like these. I genuinely love making art even if I get frustrated from technical mistakes. I just it's different if you draw as a job?
No. 2370094
>>2369231Can you even imagine what a fucking
nightmare it would be trying to hitchhike as a woman wearing that
No. 2370197
>>2369916No problem lol Again I know she's really not all that special or important but she personally fascinates with her being so socially unaware of herself, the victimhood complex (she's like Tophiachu but not as loud & brazen), the self-righteousness disguised through her own failures, and yet deep down you kind of want to see her succeed because she's living the freelance artist dream as her husband makes it so that she can do her stuff full-time.
I can admit there might be some envy there but then you listen to all her issues and it makes you grateful for having your IRL job for the stability it provides while simply pursuing art part-time.
No. 2370295
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Here's my unpopular opinion about a very popular artist: I don't care for dappermouth. Her art is good, just not 100k followers on both Twitter and Instagram good. I honestly can't even wrap my head around how she even got so many, I always found her art to be very boring, both visually and conceptually.
No. 2370371
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>>2370295She appeals to the emo wolf crowd, simple. If you can draw sad and/or ghostly and spooky looking semi realistic animals the normies, pinterest users and furries shall flock to you.
No. 2370446
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not the biggest fan of lavendertowne but this person is straight up delusional
No. 2370705
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>>2370556for me, her being fat explains being a tif ("failed to be a woman bc im unattractive i guess im a man"), then that view on womanhood explains why she only draws women as slim-thick porn mommy hookers, even if it makes 0 sense character wise. She also doesn't seem to get out much, and her obsession with self-inserting through Kate makes me think Kate is everything shes not. She technically "has" fat ocs, she just never draws them (picrel being kates alleged besties), i figure bc she prefers thinking she looks like kate. Though this is just me tinfoiling and also being a hater kek.
No. 2370712
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>>2370692Ayrt and the way I learned all this was by listening to TD's streams. I never followed Holly since her work never interested me but with Twisted Disaster, Holly would guest feature and they'd talk about stuff. When they were dating, Holly became a lot more of a frequent guest on the livestreams and she would share a bit about what was going on in her life. The key things I remember was that she was still living with her mother and she was working with wood art and was getting into 3D Printing. I think she worked at Hobby Lobby for a short time but I can't remember. Either way she was still doing art, just not working on her comics and instead focusing on the wood art and 3D printing. When they broke up, they did one or two streams together and that was when Michie annoyingly announced that Holly has come out as "trans" and then Holly went onto explain how she was in denial of her "trans-ness" (in reality, it was just her describing how she's a tomboy but you know, Michie and her retarded gang of gendies just ignore common sense when it comes to "gEnDeR" kek) and that she was waiting on getting testosterone to begin her "transition". But after those 2 streams, things got quiet and Holly wasn't appearing on the streams (this was around early August 2024) and then in one of Michie's first streams of 2025, that was when she said that she was traumatized from a very important friend breakup back in December and as I speculated in my other comment, I'm pretty sure it was Holly because Michie stopped mentioning Holly in such a good long while compared to when she would take any opportunity to mention Holly through the "as someone who knows and dated a "transman"" BS.
That's about as far as I know with Holly since again, I never followed her own social media stuff but I heard that she really did disappear for a good while.
No. 2370722
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>>2369231What a coincidence that I just discovered this artist a few days ago and really like how Y2K her art style is but of course the artist behind it is a troon. It's giving Drunkenfix all over again for me kek. Like goddamn, why do so many of these women artists who have legitimately cool or interesting art styles turn out to be a troon or a gendie? Is it because of the media that they consume where they get obsessed with the male characters to the point that they want to become them? I just ask this because I also notice how so many of these women artists seem to mostly hang around other women (TIF, enby, or not), they don't hang around actual men so it's just very jarring to me.
No. 2370762
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>>2370712I just watched her “so it’s new years huh?” Video, and she sounds so defeated and depressed? I compared an old vlog of hers to one she’s done recently and she looks way worse. I don’t think the poly thing has been a good influence on her brain.
No. 2370779
>>2370762Well going off what I remember from listening to a lot of her streams from last year, it makes sense why she was sounding so down when she made that video. I mean aside from her fallout with her "important friend", she seems to have really shat the bed with the artist alley conventions. She only did well for like one or two shows out of the many she worked that year and I think this is why she's been trying to find part-time work again because she's starting to realize that she's not making as much money anymore and she's on a sinking ship to where she just cannot rely on her art alone to cover her cost of living. She's also apparently still on a backlog of commissions she owes which more than likely doesn't help matters, especially when she was opening for emergency commissions frequently during 2024.
I will give her some grace though that as someone who was critiquing her lack of sales and interest because her art style still looks wonky and frankly if you're looking for creepy cute stuff, you can find a lot better than what she has to offer; I watched some more videos about artist alley conventions from other artists who are skillfully better than Michie on a and even they have admitted that their sales definitely took a decline in 2024 as well so it does seem like it's not just happening to middling/mediocre artists like Michie.
As for her physical looks, I mean she's always looked rough imo but tbh, it's been awhile since I've seen her older videos or photos so I can believe that maybe she did look a tad better years ago. If I had to guess, it's probably just the consequence of her sedentary lifestyle where her appearance has declined when she started doing art full-time. She rarely leaves her house unless she was going grocery shopping or going to get Starbucks or fast food. And though she did travel to visit her art friends out of state, they mostly just chilled at the friend's house or went out to eat at restaurants. I think Target was the last place she worked and she mentioned how she had to sometimes be a cart-pusher and that probably helped keep her relatively active vs sitting in her living room for numerous hours of the day while drinking sugary coffees and eating not the best while not having a dedicated workout regimen beyond stretches.
At any rate, she mentioned in her latest stream that she's still looking for part-time work and hopefully she finds something but she has to be realistic about her expectations.
>I don’t think the poly thing has been a good influence on her brain.It's honestly hard to say because after the breakup, she hasn't mentioned anything about poly relationships at all.
No. 2370924
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Nonnas, what is your worst experience while joining or hosting a zine? I know the zine scene has a horrendous reputation these days so i'd like to hear what's yours
No. 2371031
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i am so defeated nonas… i am in the middle of my new years resolution art journey but then i stumble upon some high schooler with way better skills than me and that only discourages me. anyone can draw better than me with just existing, and i do improve, but at a snail's pace. when did i go wrong?
No. 2371320
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> hot people who eat croissants are dangerous
No. 2371371
>>2371031Who cares tbh, even if a kid is good there is no guarantee they keep it up, some just stop drawing to pursue studies or working. And even if they do keep it up, if they don't have the social skills or discipline to have a real art job they won't be successful anyway.
Pretend you're in their shoes; if an adult with less art skills than you saw your art as a teen and felt discouraged, how would it make you feel? Would you want them to be sad and hold a grudge? Or would you want them, as a fellow art lover, to still encourage you with kindness? What if a sweet old lady in her 60s decided to finally pursue her dream of painting - would you discourage her because she's too old and waited too long to start? Or would you happily support her because she's just fellow artist who also loves art?
And imo you really have to trust that you are unique and have something to offer. That your certain perspective, your values, your interests and personality are valuable on their own and that makes your art special. Nobody else would have done it exactly like you! If everyone could only draw hyper-realistic pictures of reality art would be meaningless, it's what you bring forth as a person in your art that really matters.
No. 2371439
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>The art is not subtle in its support for queer people.Acts-surprised.gif
>>2371421These days Twitter is not a good option for artists, but BlueSky art community is their own toxicity as well. They whine if you don't use alt text, don't rt certain posts, you might be ended up in a list for terfs, etc.
Other than that, BlueSky is a better option than Twitter, but is not longer the paradise that artist said it would be.
No. 2371459
>>2371421I feel like every time we ask for a better art platform the monkey's paw curls, but I also wish I understood algorithms better. Every time I log onto twitter and instagram I become a caveman because I don't know how to make short form content or go viral. Personally I'd say it's a good thing to put your eggs in as many baskets as you can.
>>2371439>They whine if you don't use alt text, don't rt certain posts, you might be ended up in a list for terfs, etc.Is it true they whine if you don't write alt text in English too?
No. 2371491
>>2371459Yes. They even are "ableist" if you mention that you have dyslexia or ADHD, "you can find a way to use alt-text". There was even a drama of someone uploading the art of other artist to add the damn thing and most of the answers were "uploading someone else's art is wrong, but this is what happens when you don't use alt text" rather than "please do not upload someone else's art without their permission".
>>2371472I mean, at least the mods and the community take action for spam/abuse/reports, but until they don't kick the pedo users because they are trans, I don't think that BlueSky will be the same like Twitter back in the old days.
No. 2371559
>>2371503Is mostly for "inclusion" than think if a legal blind person knows what tf is a ti.
>>2371515If you do NSFW works, you have to mark them as NSFW in the settings, otherwise the mods will do it for you.
Enter to art shares, if you want, it gives you a chance to get some followers.
Be careful with gender issues, since the whole site is infested with TRAs, so any post about women issues will have "friendly reminder about tims and tifs are…".
No. 2371875
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>>2371031Same,
nonny. My only advice is that you start drawing everytime you have free time. Ordered food at a restaurant and have to wait for the food to arrive? dont open your phone and waste time on lolcow, open a sketchbook and start drawing the people around you. Its what the masters like KJG did to become so autistically good. Do your best
nonny, WAGMI.
No. 2371926
>>2371925There's a
lot of gassing up in that image description kek
No. 2372059
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Anybody else follow Kaneoya Sachiko and feeling like she is probably burned out? Her recent pieces lack a lot of energy and a lot of them have pretty flawed anatomy like pic related. I am still a huge fan and have her books and merch but it is a little sad to see.
No. 2372110
>>2371206yes, i keep that in mind. i have to keep going because no one else will do it for me. the advice in this thread has been really helpful and has given me a guide on how to proceed in my journey.
>>2371371>And imo you really have to trust that you are unique and have something to offer. That your certain perspective, your values, your interests and personality are valuable on their own and that makes your art special. Nobody else would have done it exactly like you!that's actually pretty sweet. i like to think my art is cute but not "retweet-then-follow" cute, i get so little engagement and that by itself is also part of my discouragement. i do understand that even if i kept everything to myself it'd still be
mine. that's what makes art so important, i believe.
>>2371875lmfao when i get out i bring a notebook and pencilcase in case i decide to draw something if the opportunity is there, but then i start to make up excuses on the spot. i do have to fix my drawing speed so i will try this, thank you!
hope all of you nonas achieve your resolutions and continue improving, happy drawing to all!
No. 2372148
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>>2372137Dont listen to them. These threads are chock-full of terminally online anons who are incapable of understanding the world doesn't revolve around them. Its why we have so many infights about anons liking X artist, and other anons sperging for hours over how X artist is ackshually not even that good or how you cant like X artist because they are
problematic or not good enough or popular with gendies. We have anons ITT who shit on Leyendecker of all artists for dumb reasons like his art being popular. Don't listen to them.
No. 2372351
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>>2372232I saw some of her old artworks of a band she based off the Beatles (I’m assuming this because she literally references one of the scenes, hard days night in one of her artworks) and literally emulates the sgt lonely heart club outfits. I remember being a yume for Paul at 12-13 years old and finding out about this artist a year later because she was popular on tumblr, and I fell in love with that character because he resembled Paul so much. Paul is the only one she wishes a happy birthday to, so she must’ve been a fan of him as well.. Finding her artwork was a blessing as a Paul fan.. This is the post I found:
https://lazydynamite.tumblr.com/post/146121086473/cherryclaws-macaroni-yoiko-yokochou/amp No. 2372355
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Why does no one ever talk about how difficult foreshortening and sitting poses are? or am i the only retard that struggles a shit ton with those two beasts
No. 2372607
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>>2372133I think she just really needs to practice her fundies again. Please, Ms. Sachiko, I'm begging you to practice your fundies again.
No. 2372713
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Anyone else similarly retarded?
I have a fandom that I really enjoy and it's become so personal to me that I can't look at fanart of it anymore without feeling extremely jealous because I should be drawing fanart too to express my passion but I keep it all in my head instead. It's so stupid and illogical and tbh has never happened to me before, usually I'm glad to see more fan content for things I enjoy like most normal people, but with this particular interest I'm just too autistically obsessed I guess
No. 2372887
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Seeing Meatcanyons original show for the first time was so jarring, what the fuck are these designs. They are way too detailed and in the least appealing way. The premise of the show is so similar to Smiling Friends but it lacks any of the charm or humour that made it work.
No. 2372902
>>2372351It's funny because her other Beatles are unrecognizable to me, and they're usually so easy to turn into caricatures. Why do they all have ski jump noses? kek. But she gets her husbando.
Weirdly enough I knew her art ages before I realized the similarities, I think the vibes are just sooo different it never clicked.
No. 2372935
>>2372713That's how I feel right now, I have a lot of artistic passion and creativity at the moment but I'm trying to channel it into original comics and game development, and it leaves me a little sad wishing I was participating in fandom because I have a lot of cool ideas and there's people in this fandom who seem to really like me and my art, especially since it's smaller, but I just have so many original stories and characters I'm proud of that I want to get out there. I wanna do both but game development takes up so much of my time, it's tragic.
>>2372887Without even finishing reading this post, I could tell by that image it's a smiling friends rip off. Moids can draw two things: disgusting men and woman that is always hot no matter what she is doing, sometimes with a gun.
No. 2373301
>>2372713Same but I never know how to word it without sounding jealous or like I get autistically
triggered by seeing characters I like portrayed in ways I don't like (which is true because I'm mentally ill). The difference is I do draw fanart but I avoid looking at tags, maybe try blocking tags or muting artists that appear frequently in your feed and just enjoy your personal relationship with the original work.
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No. 2373323
>>2373308To be fair, your boobs can continue growing into your twenties but it probably wouldn't be
that much (she's gone up like 4 cup sizes by 27 even considering the weight gain kek.) Also, who is having growth spurts at
18? I feel like the artist really wanted the first image to be, like, 14 or something instead but realised how weird it looked and pulled the anime tactic.
No. 2373335
>>2373308I hate this psyop so much, I capped out at 5"5 at age 13 so the height thing
triggers the fuck out of me, but weight gain can definitely cause your breasts to grow and people typically gain weight after high school because your lifestyle changes after high school, a lot of people go into sedentary jobs. Of course, I never leave the house (no sun exposure) and I only eat to keep my body functioning, so my appearance hasn't changed a lot in the past few years and I frequently get mistaken for 18 at 26, so whenever I see people making their characters have drastic physical changes in their twenties unless something serious happened to them I roll my eyes.
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>>2373035Thanks for letting me know. I genuinely thought they were supposed to be them or emulate them because there seems to be a lot of resemblance, only with John and Paul though.
>>2372902The one thing media reference that I can recognize that I saw that pops up pretty in her artwork regularly is the Beatles, so it never actually clicked for me either until I got older and noticed said references. I always theorized that she based her OC off of Paul because of how similar he looked, but it was genuinely just a funny little idea I came up with until I followed her instagram and saw that Paul was the only person she celebrated. I compiled some art that I found where she references/dedicates her works of the Beatles. I’m not surprised that the only two husbandos I had is Paul/similar to Paul’s appearance. I notice that she does put the cosmos records band into a lot of her artworks in her background as well.. I wonder what this means.. She literally has a shrine for Paul, nevermind, this is completely based off him, lol. I’m so glad.
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>>2373323that theory makes the most sense. Otherwise the artist is genuinely dumb as hell, because what actual woman would think girls have growth spurts at 18?
Also this picture is so ridiculous. It's like trying to have your cake and eat it too - Brujo wants to cater towards the gendies but also wants to draw a hot girl who still has her breasts, so this weird top surgery at 42 years old thing is a way of appeasing both sides. I sense it is not going to work out much longer. Gendies love to eat their own - I don't know how exactly they would frame Brujo as
problematic, but I can see it happening.
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>>2373308I wish more artists would learn how to draw attractive men
Like are you seriously gonna draw your female lead as a pinup 90% of the time and then your male character hits the wall at 27 years old? This is so sad
No. 2373958
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What's the tea on these new girl users on DAD that comment on each other's posts? What website are they from?
I thought they might've been from lolcow, but I guess not.
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>>2373958Also I noticed they ignored John Smith but replied to Purin's comment (Because Purin is a girl? or because Purin has cute art?)
No. 2374032
>>2373958I recognize angeleyesprings from neocities. Maybe the others are from there also? Not sure what that person means by extremely
toxic because everytime I've interacted with her, she's been super sweet
No. 2374039
>>2374032Lel "
toxic" probably just means she has a backbone while dealing with moids or something.
No. 2374407
>>2372148AYRT and thanks anon lol I just simply like cartoony styles that scream 2000s but it's really such a shame that so many of them turn out to be troons or gendies and it's like if this was 10+ years ago, they'd be normal (well as far as "gender" stuff went).
Also picrel in your post, I agree with the other anon that the coloring is really nice, very warm and relaxing.
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>>2372666its by ohishi masaru
No. 2374557
>>2373958Kek the
toxic comment is just a moid being a retarded shit stirrer. It's "
toxic" they don't want to associate with moids I guess.
No. 2374847
>>2374840There are no details, only speculation. It looks like a bunch of 4chan users making shit up for fun. Like
>>2374032 said, some of them come from Neocities, I recognize a few of them. No harm in reaching out if you're that curious.
No. 2376773
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(1/3)
emi matsuno/pancakelover69 has been a personal artcow of mine and was mentioned a few threads back
I used to follow this girl when she was 14 years old, had a demon girl oc and was involved with a groomer cristali but now she's even more obnoxious, what the fuck happened
>Her channel is 16+ but she openly posts shit like picrel on the community tab and puts softcore porn animations on the same 16+ main channel excusing it as "heavy sexual themes but no nudity shown!!!"
>throws a tantrum when people don't constantly bootlick her in the comments
>has 16+ discord despite being 21
she also suddenly started to ship herself with sans undertale. synnibear and birdie has proven that shipping yourself with sans is a sign of mental illness so i will not be at all surprised if she will be involved in some grooming scandal in the future. The milk is a bit old
No. 2376783
I wonder if the difference between being able to take criticism well vs not taking it well is personal acceptance of your faults. I used to get so personally offended when my art got criticized, but someone who had sent me a hate comment gave me some very objective advice when I responded and I just feel extremely motivated now and the cognitive dissonance between now and about 3 years ago when I last sought out objective criticism on my artwork is odd.
>>2376773This feels like vendettaposting tbh
No. 2377159
>>2376959>>2377115I wish I could find this again, but I remember seeing a post where one user who actually closely looked into all those fundraisers and found a ton of red flags. For one thing, gofundme doesn't operate in Gaza, and it would be incredibly difficult for anyone there to actually withdraw money. The charitable interpretation would be someone outside the country raising money on a friend or family member's behalf, and some of them are claiming to be that, but this doesn't seem to be the case in reality. A lot of the fundraisers use the same copy-pasted text and colored text formatting, indicating that they all come from the same source. There's about 2-3 names that you see come up constantly if you actually check who is running the gofundme. There's clearly some automated system that spams asks to people, no matter the content of the post (for example, the OP got a bunch of fundraiser asks after making a post in the 'gaza' tag even though the post was skeptical of gaza fundraisers). A lot of them repeat photos and use them for multiple campaigns, or even use photos of refugees from other countries. The thing that I find most insidious is that it absolutely does do harm to give money to scammers, since they could easily be from scam centers that use human trafficking.
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Nonnies, do you have any artists that inspire you not because their art is good, but because their art is bad and they still have a following anyway?
Right now the artist of the 'Princess of Gender Dysphoria' Applejack AU is fulfilling this need for me. I find her art pretentious to the point of brainmelting - but she also gets a lot of fanart (from gendies like herself, but still). Looking at artists like these pushes me to be more consistent and try harder to make meaningful art because I cannot stand the feeling of 'losing' to a worse artist. It's dumb but it works.
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>>2375282Notice how even scrotes with 'ugly' animation still only draw exaggerated sexy females
No. 2378497
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This is a kinda random salt blog but when I was a young teen I followed an artist and graphic designer I admired for years on tumblr. One day I messaged her in awe, fangirling about how I admired how hard working she is and how I wanted to be like her and work with art and design too. Her reply was basically "oh no im not hard working, im lazy as fuck and my art sucks but thnx i guess lololol" and for some reason that nonchalant and self-deprecating message I got back felt so incredibly depressing. It felt like she had rejected my admiration and like she told me "stop being a fan, I don't want it". I was honestly so embarrassed I had even messaged her at all and felt a bit heartbroken. I still remember that feeling now years later.
I don't mind people just being insecure and venting about not liking their own art (which this artist didn't do, she wasn't one of those who posted "omg my art sucks" every 5 minutes like some other artists at the time), but shooting it down when met with genuine admiration now really pisses me off, it feels so disrespectful and sometimes like they're fishing for you to go "nooo you're sooo great!! You're the best!!!". Like ok fine, your art sucks and you're a lazy person who doesn't deserve any of the success you've gotten, happy now?
No. 2378609
>>2378497Could be the case. Alternatively…
Some artists genuinely hate their own art. Speaking from experience here; when someone compliments something you worked on and hate, it feels like a disingenuous compliment. Like being patronized. The immediate response can be to tell them "lmao delusional but thanks I guess????" sometimes. I personally absolutely HATE being patronized because it doesn't improve my art; when people rip it apart unprompted, it makes me check myself and hyperfocus on what the nay sayers think, not the compliments.
I hope this provides an alternative perspective to the thing that bothered you. And truthfully, I hope I never made anyone feel this way myself.
No. 2378943
>>2378862>It means you're literally just posting it to get pityIt needs to be talked about how many artists have learned that pity is the way to get validation and rely on others feeling bad on them to feel good about themselves, and then get genuinely angry when this manipulation tactic doesn't work. The only way others will ever respect you is if you work on your confidence yourself. As human beings, we biologically like to feel superior to other people, like, look at where we're posting right now, kek. Someone pitying you is getting an ego gratification over it and will eventually begin to genuinely look down on you. When emotional vampire artists become a cow, they only have themselves to blame. The more confidence you have, the less shit you're gonna get into because you'll be provoked less, and harm less people like that nonna who could go on to continue to carry that pain for years.
>You just alienate your "fans" by catering to a group that hates you insteadI did this for a while with pedophile gooner moids because I liked drawing cute girls and accidentally got lolishit normalized to me, and I thought people trying to attack me over it were just assholes. After waking up to how I was essentially groomed into having that shit look normal to me, I've felt disgusted by sexualizations of women in anime and have never felt happier drawing husbandos. I never felt comfortable with those moids, I just thought they were the safer option because they weren't mean to me, but you have to seek that social comfort if you ever want to be happy online as an artist.
No. 2379101
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>>2369252I was listening to one of her newer streams this weekend and oh my fucking god, even when you think that she can possibly have a chill stream where she doesn't say too much retarded shit, she just cannot help herself. She was talking about her thoughts on the latest Nosferatu movie and OMFG this cow just sounds absolutely retarded with her complaints and realizations.
When she talks about the beginning of the movie with the Ellen character being invisibly assaulted, she says that it's not framed in a "sexy" or "romantic" way and it's like no shit Sherlock, it's a horror movie, not a romance. And then she goes on a rant on how the bad it was that the husband character didn't believe Ellen and that she shouldn't tell anyone else about her nightmare and it's like hello dumb ass, the context is that it's the late 18th century where people could be locked up in asylums for saying things that sounded ridiculous so of course he told her not to tell anyone else even if for the audience, we know she's right. And then she felt the need to tell her audience that she has to reiterate that the movie is not a romance and not meant to be a "teehee haa-haa sexy and erotic" movie. Again you fucking dumb ass, who the fuck went into the movie thinking that it was going to be anything other than a horror film? Has she fucking seen the previous films? Un no way were they presented as a romance or erotica. And during that, she adds how people "she's seen" do not get the point of Nosferatu and it's just like shut up. She more than likely spends her days looking on Twitter and/or BlueSky threads written by some zoomers who don't know shit but I guarantee most people do get the point of story.
And just the way she explains the plot in not just this movie but anytime she does a movie recap, she does it in the most immature, vulgar way with using words like "rawdogging", "gaslit (in reference to herself)", and "Whatsher/hisbitch-name". Thank fuck she's not an actual movie reviewer.
Anyway this to say, I just cannot with how she lacks common sense and genuinely seems to think that she's saying some profound shit when talking about this stuff that anyone over 25 and especially in her age range of 30 and up would already get.
She really reminds me of Amberlynn Reid in that way where she thinks she's being quirky and unique with her realizations when she's just speaking common sense that anyone outside her bubble of mentally handicapped friends would get. I mean that's it, she's the artist version of Amberlynn Reid lol.
I seriously hope that this is just a negative drawback of her being more or less terminally online for the better half of 4-5 years and that if she is successful in getting an IRL part-time job, she can finally touch the societal grass that she needs and regains some common sense again because good God does she need it.
No. 2379106
>>2379070Thanks for the clear up anonn. It sounds like you follow Holly more or at least know more of what happened during the aftermath of the breakup. Does Holly still think she's a "transman"? Because last I heard about Holly after the breakup was that she realized she was trans and was trying to get on testosterone.
On a side note, I did see that TD's friend "Sawyer" no longer calls herself a "transman" and is now calling herself a "nonbinary lesbian". I wonder if she regrets getting her breasts amputated as I heard in one of Michie's streams that she did get "top surgery" and was in the middle of recovering from it thought that was back in mid 2024.
No. 2379147
>>2379106The kind of medication Holly takes conflicted
with HRT and would've caused her to have a heart attack so no, she's not taking testosterone. I think she's still wants to have surgery done though from what I remember but doesn't have the money for it.
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>>2378943>>2378862Mixed feelings about this because while there are definitely artists like this out there, some people are just
really bad at taking compliments and/or are uncomfortable with being idolised, as it seems like
>>2378497 was doing, and while being insecure they're not necessarily doing it to be manipulative and get ass pats.
There is something inherently uncomfortable in having someone you don't know admire you, if you don't think your art is to a high enough standard you'd feel like you're cheating this person, and this admiration could lead to skinwalking if they're particularly young or lazy which is annoying to deal with. You could make the argument of why someone would even post if they don't like this sort of attention but there are plenty of reasons to post that don't have the primary or secondary goals of getting praise from faceless randoms or a group of parasocial bootlickers.
No. 2379316
>>2379301You can be manipulative without intending to. A common female experience is to pour love into someone in hopes they will treat you the same, and become resentful when they don't meet your expectations, as that's having an ulterior motive and punishing them for not acting as intended, but it's often a subconscious thing. Often times, when we self deprecate, it's in hopes that someone will say something to raise our self esteem, as you don't necessarily do things intending to be hurt more unless you're actually masochistic. We do things because we learn that it works. The only possible way it couldn't be manipulative at all is to expect everyone to just ignore you when you say that, but that's painful in it's own way. A simple "thanks, that means a lot!" to OP nonna would have sufficed, yet she had to go the extra mile to shit talk herself on every level she could have in response. Personally, when I was younger I would always self deprecate in hopes someone would come to my rescue, but when I realized nobody would actually respond to me, I began keeping my low self esteem to myself. I didn't realize it was manipulative back then, but in hindsight it was SUPER manipulative and it's no fucking wonder everyone ignored me, because who the hell would wanna talk to someone like that? Working on my confidence has only improved my life and now I try to come to the rescue of people who remind me of my old self best I can because I understand the pain behind the actions, but some people just get way too comfortable seeking pity and have no intention to do anything to better themselves or their situation.
No. 2379331
>>2378497When people say don't meet your heroes, that's what they mean. She handled that really poorly, but that's not really uncommon for artists to react badly to stuff like this. Just because she is a good artist, doesn't mean she's good with fans. It sucks, but it's a way to learn not to idolize people too much.
>>2378609I usually hate my art, but I never thought people were being disingenuous. I am aware people have different perspectives on what's good. I often see art I think it's trash being praised, and art I find pretty being shit on, so it's not impossible that someone likes something I did, even if I myself don't like it.
>>2379301We can't control other's perceptions of us. If they're idolizing or creating parasocial relationships with an online persona it's on them. All that artist had to say was thanks, if anon kept on gushing she could shut it off in some polite way. It's not that everyone who posts wants attention or adoration, it's just a risk of existing, people will project any feelings they want onto other people, it's out of their control.
No. 2379336
>>2379331nayrt but
>I am aware people have different perspectives on what's good.Often times, people's perception of art is a lot better than it actually is when they either don't draw or don't draw on a level higher than a beginner. I dislike my art currently very much, but every time I post I get some type of proclamation about how much my work means to them or how my style itches their brain or how they don't understand why they love what I do as much as they do. It might also have to do with the fact that I make comics and characters and such. It's easy to hate your own work, especially if you've trained your eye well enough to be able to spot mistakes, but we are always our own worst critic. To shut someone down who clearly idolizes you, while it may feel right in that moment, is ultimately an insult to them and the feelings they've developed for you. When I was younger, I used to obsess over the pages of my idols, and now that I have an audience that's several tens of thousands strong, there's probably people doing that to me, which is difficult to imagine, but you don't control how people feel about your work, and the tribal nature of humanity makes it so those feelings grow stronger if you have a following.
No. 2379420
>>2378497Reminded me how one time one of my favorite artists in the fandom I was in shared one of my fanarts in her insta story. I was still new to social media and really excited to see that she had noticed me so I wrote her a long thank you and told her how much it meant to me coming from such a good artist like herself and she replied something like "lol art good". I felt so embarrassed about messaging her after that I almost blocked her kek
But it somehow also reminded me of an artist I used to talk to that would refer to any drawings she received from friends as fanart. Even if it was a trade or some kind of secret santa exchange where you had no choice but to draw her boring ass characters (that she herself didn't even want to draw more than once or twice). That always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. She still acts like her followers are her fans and makes posts like "sorry I didn't post any art recently! I'll make something soon for y'all!!" that get a maximum of 5 likes because no one gives a fuck whether she posts or not. Internet artists that act like influencers are so funny in the most pathetic way.
No. 2379464
>>2379301>There is something inherently uncomfortable in having someone you don't know admire youThen don't post your art and work online with the intent of showing it other people. It literally doesn't add up to go "look what I made! …ew omg no you can't compliment my work you weirdo!!!". Just show your friends in a private group.
>You could make the argument of why someone would even post if they don't like this sort of attention but there are plenty of reasons to post that don't have the primary or secondary goals of getting praise from faceless randoms or a group of parasocial bootlickers.I mean… no, not really. The only reason to post art online in public is to share it with others, there is literally no other reason to post it publicly. If you then can't even accept that people react to your art positively… then you're just plain fucking stupid and should log off forever and go touch grass.
>some people are just really bad at taking complimentsThat's just their own issue, they shouldn't take it out on others. If you are too mentally ill and insecure to even say "thank you" then you should also just get off the internet.
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>>2379665I mean, I don’t mind admitting that. Most artists throughout history worked for the acclaim (and money), which doesn’t devalue their art in the eyes of the masses today at all. When I’m not online, I draw slowly. I’m just more creative when I’m in community with others who can give me dopamine boosts and ideas and suggestions. The only downside is ending up being repetitive or pandering, but I don’t think that’s an issue if you paint from the heart and stick with it before gaining a follower base. Just be sure to check in with yourself once every couple of weeks and ask: “am I really enjoying this right now? Is this what I envisioned myself doing when I joined social media? What path is my artistic progress going down, and do I like that path?” Pass your own questions, and you’ll be fine.
No. 2380438
>>2379464>>2379665There's a difference between commenting a compliment passively on a post and directly telling someone you admire them and want to be like them someday. People who respond like that to brief public comments are shitty and disdainful, but someone who is socially awkward (as a large portion of online artists are) and/or insecure might not know how to respond to direct idolisation which they are pressured into responding to, and if that's something they do not want that's going to colour the way the artist will reply.
>The only reason to post art online in public is to share it with others, there is literally no other reason to post it publiclyHaving a digital archive of works, sharing art between friends in a convenient manner or finding actual friends to do art with (not many good friendships start with one serenading the other), participating in a art group or small fandom, trying to get into galleries - posting for any of these reasons doesn't necessarily mean you desire strangers latching on to you. I also think there's a stark difference between sharing art for attention from peers and sharing art to garner a fan base, both of these are fine but who the artist wants attention from peers probably doesn't want to wrangle randoms.
>If you are too mentally ill and insecure to even say "thank you" then you should also just get off the internet.If every mentally ill and insecure person logged off, who would post on lolcow?
I do agree that it should have been handled better, my argument was mainly against assuming the artist's intention was to pity fish and that she could have felt awkward and uncomfortable in that interaction. And while I do understand why OP feels hurt this sort of faux pas is something I think shouldn't be taken too personally, acting in good form and responding nicely would have been better but also artists don't really owe you coddling especially when they don't want this and get nothing from their following besides pixels and a dopamine-cortisol spike.
No. 2380555
>>2380438But… all those reasons for posting online that you listed… are for attention KEK
And she didn't say "every mentally ill person needs to log off" she said if you are too much of a retard to handle basic interactions, what point is there to being social online. You're responding to a version of her post you made up in your head.
>>2380504You replied to the wrong post, but I will attempt to help you anyway. Read the context which includes the type of message she sent. Not to mention it was
anon's art that was reposted, not the artist's. The artist was being dismissive and rude. Nobody owes anybody their time, but a simple sentence or two responding to someone's sincerity costs you nothing. Hope this helps you understand, and also gets you more productive interactions with others, fellow autist.
No. 2380605
>>2380555The reasons I listed were ones you could use to find genuine connections from (or additionally getting money in the case of someone trying to get into a gallery), I wasn't saying that absolutely no one who wants recognition can't also post for those reasons. Do you think artists on sites like VK who post art once every few months and only reply to comments from their friends are trying to get as much attention from people as possible or do they want to share things with their friends? If you classify every social interaction as getting attention you're technically right but that's a bit disingenuous, no?
>she said if you are too much of a retard to handle basic interactions, what point is there to being social onlineI know what she was saying. And despite it being pointless there is always going to be at least one asocial retard paradoxically being in a social situation online, as is exemplified by some anons who use this site.
No. 2380756
I'm the poster of
>>2378497 and I just want to clarify a few things. I actually went out of my way to see if the old post still existed, and it did. Not gonna post it and dox myself tho lol.
But I wanna clarify when I said I was "in awe and fangirling" I was apparently greatly exaggerating because I did not at all phrase it in a obsessed or parasocial way the way some anons suggest. I was 14 and was very apologetic and polite in a "hi sorry to bother you but I really like your work" kind of way, way more so than I had thought I was.
I also had to scroll past a lot of posts of her going "the thing that pushes me forwards is a desire to succeed and become better", "I would never half-ass work" and things that could be categorized as "hard working" as I had put it. It was kind of bizarre to see her then reply to me with "im lazy as fuck". I had also misremembered a detail, she didn't go "but thnx i guess", she never actually said thanks in any way, but she did indeed say "lololol" at the end. Also just for the record I did end up becoming a graphic designer for real kek
No. 2380908
>>2380756Idk about other anons, but I had assumed you were pretty normal in your interaction, especially for a 14 year old.
But even if you had been a little too much of a fangirl, it still would have cost her nothing to be nice to you for a couple sentences kek. People act like it's some kind of commitment to a relationship to respond positively or politely to praise, but you can just send a pair of sentences and not respond beyond that. Though I guess that's why a lot of online artists do not seem to be doing well for themselves in the social aspect of being online.
No. 2381073
>>2380908I had assumed the same, because 14 is prime fangirl age, but it's also incredibly well intended fangirl age, parasocial stalker behavior is typically reserved for people 16-17 and up. And even if that nonna had been weird, that's just a fucked up thing to post in response. And if she had felt bad about receiving a compliment, then just straight up ignore the ask, the fuck? It costs $0 to not be an asshole to people who support you.
>People act like it's some kind of commitment to a relationship to respond positively or politely to praiseThese people are self centered assholes and to be avoided at all costs. I see enough artists making memes about how they get irritated at older women who have nobody at home talking about how her dad just died when they're ringing up her groceries, why is it any different to put your self esteem issues on someone who finds joy in what you do?
No. 2381299
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>>2381287No, because I never draw.
No. 2381512
>>2381401kek based
Now I'm wondering what the best way to signal your terfy nature through your art is
Honestly I feel like you could just copy what gendies draw and insult them very well through that already. (Minus the accidental racist vibes of course) Their characters can be so stereotypical and self-mocking sometimes.
No. 2381588
>>2381287The only thing I'm worried about is if I get posted in
this thread and have assumptions made about me because I would not be able to control the urge to respond itt to clear things up and then through a series of convoluted circumstance all my posts get revealed and anons will be able to how retarded I am and then lurking gendie snitches will see it and make a call out post and so my time as a online artist and farmer will be no more…
No. 2381601
>>2381287Since no one comments or critiques my art, getting posted would be exciting. Also I'd be happy to know other nonas follow the same obscure interests as me without outing myself. IDK I don't think very highly of my art so I'd take it with humor. And sometimes the bad art posted there isn't bad but is ridiculous in concept.
>>2381532Look 5-figure likes art that's objectively shit and you'll feel less bad about yours, also realize you're probably on a social media platform where memes and anger at news thrive more than art so likes mean nothing.
No. 2381699
>>2381626He also selfposted so many fucking times pretending to insult his own work. Mega retard fag, I hope his animated pilot flops.
>>2381662I'm a medfag autist who likes to draw gore/medical anatomy and I draw in a anime style, outlook not so good.
And I have a genderbent selfcest husbando… No. 2381770
>>2381754God fucking damnit, now we're going to have more tourists come here because "oooooh 4Chan for gurlss????"
Becker if you're reading this, kys
No. 2381978
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Why can I only draw decently when I’m zoomed in (until the lines are pixelated)? Every time I try to use the whole 2000*3000+ 300 dpi canvas my skills regress back to kindergarten. Yes I am sketching with my whole arm.
No. 2382587
Anon who posted
>>2364977 here, I went with getting a new tablet and it's a night and day difference. If you're ever having a really hard time drawing with more line varience check the tablet's pressure level cause that may be the reason why. 2048 pressure levels is perfect, anything more if unnecessary. On that note, I've bought a Huion Huion GT-190 and it comes with no buttons on the side that you can reassign for short-cuts. I've figured out away to fix this by using the numpad section of my keyboard dedicated for art but I have a question. You know how in Clip Studio Paint you can hold shift to draw and map out straight lines? I don't know where but does anyone know where in the Clip Studio Paint menu can you re-map it?
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Who are your favorite traditional artists anons? I realized my art looks 10x better traditionally and I finally made the switch. I have no regrets at all because digital art kind of made me stagnate.
reposted for grammar mistake. Sorry.
No. 2382870
>>2382863ayrt, thanks for answering!
>Do you draw primarily original artwork? i draw fanart but my fandoms are mostly niche/smaller than the typical fotm fandom. i'm not sure if part of the lost of appeal is because my style is so drastically different from the original source and i don't try to emulate the source's style at all.
>Where you usually post? i tried with insta but only a single friend liked my posts kek. then bluesky but the more political atmosphere of the site really turned me off. now i'm at tumblr which i feel more comfortable with, yet it's a dying site.
>Do you intend to work on something larger down the line?i want to make an original comic, so i wanted to get some eyes on my general work first. the comic thing now seems like its own can of worms because i can't think
where to post it.
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>>2366897may have been a less favorable example but there are nice greek and roman sculptures to study.
Personally I find them to be right around the build of men I enjoy. I naturally gravitate to more "fatty" bodies anyway that have a curviness to them. I like the softness in their forms. Pic rel is one to me that is very appealing. Sucks that so many of them are depicting terrible scenes
No. 2383136
>>2382891pheww, i tried to look up some that may draw similarly to me by using google lens on my drawings but none really resembled it. it's not like it's super
youneek, but it has its fair amount of "quirks" as a lack of a better word (then again, what art style doesn't?).
anyways, i want to shape my art style in a more geometric, blocky? kinda way like the following three things
>panty n stocking>my life as a teenage robot>scott pilgrim vsbut instead it looks like an hybrid between that and those wooden dummy posable dolls, their bodies look weird, so do my characters' bodies. for example, i cannot decide if i want more defined legs or legs that resemble cones.
No. 2383225
>>2380438Agree with everything you said. I once had a person walk up to me and start gushing about how much she loves my work and that I'm her numbe rone idol etc. and it caught me so off guard I honestly couldn't figure out a proper response and just made some kind of a self-derogatory comment about myself to not seem too egoistical (and also to tone down the parasocial aspects). I most likely came off as pity fishing and I still think about that and want to punch myself. It's a very different reaction from someone just saying "I love your art, it looks really nice!".
>I also think there's a stark difference between sharing art for attention from peers and sharing art to garner a fan base, both of these are fine but who the artist wants attention from peers probably doesn't want to wrangle randoms.Agree. It's beyond cynical to put both of these goals in the same ballpark. Some people just want to meet likeminded artists who share their interests and want to do art trades to create fulfilling relationships, not hoarding NPCs bombing their art with thousands of likes.
>artists don't really owe you coddling especially when they don't want this and get nothing from their following besides pixels and a dopamine-cortisol spike.People genuinely need to have this hammered into their heads. Most artists work for free and you're a complete stranger to them, they don't owe you groveling.
No. 2383458
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>>2383136So it's like picrel but stiffer?
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>>2383590She probably wasn't thinking about the physics and just symbol drawing the way most people do. Just do more studies until you feel like you know enough to draw something from imagination that looks like it makes sense. You can drape fabrics over any item and draw that from different angles or with different lighting. There's no one way to draw something, you need to figure it out for yourself by practicing.
No. 2383910
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Is it a thing for graphic designers on social media to post spammy, repetitive engagement bait content? I bookmarked one post and twitter started showing me more graphic designers, which was cool until I realized they just post the same exact thing over and over again (one kept sharing the same ~free resources~ posts that would have a bunch of dead links). I assume it’s to put themselves out there for potential commissions, clients? Just mildly disappointing as an artist. Picrel, notice how left column is within the past 2 days kek.
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>>2383910it's definitely engagement farming, more visibility -> more potential followers -> more potential clients and more clout. I follow a few graphic designers who don't do this much, probably because they do get real work kek
No. 2384085
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>elementary school student makes it over grown adults still trying to make an art career in an anti-art/anti-creativity world full of ai and glass doll art slop
Any anons still trying, just know it’s absolutely over before it even began. Get your big girl job and make your art just a side hobby to keep some semblance of sanity in your life. You either draw trending porn for twitterfags or you work at McDonalds
No. 2384133
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>>2384118Not drama, but this kid who always paint Jesus because "God gave her the gift of talent to draw our savior" and not because she spends tons of days painting over and over and learning.
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>>2384133what a blast in the past, did anyone actually believed she actually drew her pencil sketches on her gallery at age 5?
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>>2384085Oh
nonnie, why would you lie like that when that's so easy to debunk.
No. 2384310
>>2384303ntayrt but that’s the fanartist nonna. Vidrel for context. Apparently people are seething because a kid is getting fanart of her oc for her birthday
No. 2384315
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>>2384310some examples of the seething kek
No. 2384346
>>2383458along those lines, yeah. thank you nona, i'll use this for future reference!
>>2384315if i was her i would stfu and hop on the trend for easy attention gain.
No. 2384424
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Finally accepted the fact I’ll never create a finished piece in my life
No. 2384480
>>2384467>He felt absolutely humiliated by it too.I love that for you. I tried making a more mature story to work out the issues my ex left me with that's empathetic to both sides but it just
triggered a three week long depressive episode so I think I need something a bit more immature and explosive.
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Anyone know what type of paint this could be?
No. 2384514
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>>2384403Yeah kek. There are also only 12 tiktoks on her page, going back to 2021. I really doubt she's been seriously grinding art to leave her household or whatever. Her pinned one is asking for money because she wants to start a candle business since her art isn't blowing up despite her being soo talented.
No. 2384516
>>2384508As
>>2384510 said it may be gouache, but I actually think it could just be a higher quality watercolor set. I have a Yarka set that I can get similar opacity with so the look isn’t exclusive to gouache.
No. 2384846
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>>2384568This. The one time I have seen gouache in pans is when Itagaru Paru or Dollightul use them.
>>2384538You're either thinking in acrylics or gouache acrylics. The second act like gouache but once they're dry in the paper you cannot remove them with water.
No. 2385447
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>>2359940Bringing back the conversation about terrible lighting/values in sjw art, it reminds me of the trend of terrible lighting in newer films, particularly marvelslop but it occurs in other films too. I wonder if there’s a connection, or a parallel in these people’s creative mindsets?
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>>2385447I remember during the mid 2010's there was this obsession with being "realistic" and not having any tiny mistakes in movies and shit. I bet that's where this ugly kind of lighting comes from.
No. 2385775
>>2385447I honestly think it's a mix of muh style, weird hang-ups created by online dramas (eg can't do proper lighting on dark skin because it makes it too pale or whatever), and possibly even fucked up monitors. Lack of technical knowledge when it comes to colour and light also plays a part, as does an over-reliance on effect layers such as overlay and multiply slapped on to randomly colour-correct (so back to the muh style point).
The reasons films have shitty/muddy lighting is because of the retarded way they're made– instead of like one or two vfx studios working closely with a director for two years or so on one film, you have a bunch of studios scattered all over the world working on random scenes with distant directors who aren't experienced with effects-heavy film making aiming for a much shorter production time, so you rely on old tricks to help blend cgi with footage in a more consistent and 'cheap' way when compositing everything together (classic is that the darker the scene, the easier and faster it is to both render and hide your cgi). iirc a shift to digital cameras also caused a very flat/muddy look for a while that also wasn't being colour-corrected in post for whatever reason, but iirc they have ones now that can get a similar result to film cameras so that shouldn't be an excuse anymore so it must be intentional. Films also rely less on full physical sets and more on green screen sets, so there's far less information for the lighting team to work with (hell they might not even be able to use non-generic HDRIs if there's no physical set at all, which don't give you instant perfect lighting but god do they help, and a colour checker isn't going to a great reference either).
I'd buy popular films influencing terrible lighting/values in art more if the artists exhibiting them ever did actual studies, especially of the films in question, but they're usually the type to do studies or redraws that are so wildly divergent from the original that it borders on delusional so I dunno kek
No. 2385871
>>2385775NTA and I agree with all your other points besides
>I'd buy popular films influencing terrible lighting/values in art more if the artists exhibiting them ever did actual studiesI'd say the effect of these movies is probably subconscious, this particular species of artist tend to watch whatever is mainstream and whatever random flavour of the month movie or series that they barely pay paid attention to to make fanart of. Add getting references purely from Pinterest (at best) and similar artists and you've got yourself the shitest mental library possible.
No. 2386043
>>2385871ayrt and yeah true, no matter what their visual library is hot garbage. The incestuous inbreeding of styles and trends within that crowd also doesn't help. I just can't get over how many of them seem to be disconnected from their art, like they can't see it for what it
is, and not in the usual way where as you grow as an artist your eye gets better and you can see where you need improving more easily etc (I interacted with quite a few of them at uni and the level of delusion is extra bizarre in-person)
>>2386013Everyone says I have very neat handwriting but that it's also for ants lol. I write as well as draw though so that's probably a factor kek
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>>2385723Chase the the Japanese flavor of super simple cartooning haha
No. 2386189
>>2385723This is a digital art thing, but I'm finding that I enjoy working with low-spec mediums (low-poly, pixel art, MS-Paint-style drawing) than I do anything that actually exploits the technology I have available. On a broader scale, it doesn't matter and it's a personal thing. But it feels like I'm turning my back on all of these years of studying digital art and learning how to render.
I also realized I really don't like making digital art that emulates traditional media due to the fact that I've worked with those mediums and enjoy the randomness and delicacy of it. I learned rendering, but always hated the process of it. I kept looking for some kind of tangible feedback. With the pixel and vector art, that isn't there, and I can appreciate digital for what it is.
No. 2386941
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Could this be homunculus100? Note the address.
No. 2386943
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>>2386941it definitely is
No. 2386949
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>>2386945I know it most probably is, picrel art definitely cemented for me, but there's a non zero chance that someone is trying to ape her for attention.
No. 2386966
>>2381287Not really. I would kinda feel proud that a
nonnie found my art. I used find my shit reposted on 4chan
No. 2387009
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>>2386131People in the west also tend to forget the modern animated anime look isn't the only japanese cartoon style, heck modern anime doesn't even look like earlier anime styles either
No. 2387372
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>>2387212Difficult to say because I didn't interact with anyone for the first week and got picrel as soon as I started doing that. Some people say getting 2FA also helped but I don't know how true that is
No. 2387495
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I know social media is created to make everyone insecure no matter what but god I always feel like my art isn’t stylistically interesting enough or isn’t fundamentally skilled enough. I just opened instagram for the first time in 3 years and I immediately start comparing myself to other artists. I’ll keep on working hard of course but I think if I want to start a social media presence I might have to ask a friend to post my art for me.
No. 2387510
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>>2387502I took him out of the snow so now he’s basking in the sun. Just for you anon.
No. 2387636
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>>2386949I'm a bona fide degenerate so it looks interesting enough to me to wanna check it out despite knowing the author's lore, but something about even her softcore tame porn makes me feel sick to my stomach so picrel isn't doing me any favors.
No. 2387729
>>2387636I'm a degen that likes yandere too but I tried playing her game but stopped after like 20 minutes because it was really boring and I know I sound like an adhd zoomer saying that but I gotta tell my truth.
Also the main guy Angel is stated to be 5'1, it's pretty obvious that homie made him as short as she socially acceptably can because she likes shota. I know manlets exist irl but come on now, you know what she's doing.
No. 2387741
>>2387729I finished the entire game, main character is a woman, there's an entire
rape subplot that confirms it. The game wasn't as shocking as I expected from this artist honestly.
No. 2387752
>>2387748Upon closer inspection, I believe it's supposed to be a TIF and
her rapist just calls her a she.
No. 2387756
>>2387753As in the pronouns are used a plot device to make the
rapist look worse.
No. 2388372
>>2388341I would genuinely check out some episodes of Bob Ross on YouTube. He's very approachable to novices to oils and you will learn some good techniques in a low pressure way.
Good luck nonna. I hope you get some further suggestions as well.
No. 2388375
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>>2387999Just empathizing with you. It's infuriating and to ping off what another nonna said, moids barely interact with their "own" media in an intelligent way it's just memes, what some streamer said, porn, etc. too busy dick waving to actually play the game or keep up with model news, etc. it's hard to find women into these things who don't turn it into something I'm not interested in, and the moids are fucking stupid and don't know anything either so here we are, alone in the middle.
No. 2388396
>>2388382Yes, there are some perks to it but in my case it ruined my self-esteem cause I felt like I couldn't offer anything else other than my drawing skills and
sex, but this is another matter lol. And I think this was a reccuring problem in my life, feeling that I have no worth outside of art and that I'm unlovable on my own. I always felt kinda jealous of people with average-ish looks, average in terms of academic skills, very mediocre abilities and basically no talent, but super popular and charming thanks to their personality.
No. 2388803
>>2387963AYRT here.
>Though now its a actual battle to try and get back into digital art now, feels like such a waste to have all these digital art programs like ClipStudio. I bought the full version and instantly regretted it.Oh my god, this is me. I didn't buy the full of CSP for my desktop, but I did buy a tablet and a CSP mobile to have that "experience" and I'm feeling the guilt. It paid for itself, but the tablet itself is now just sitting and turning into a doomscroll device; I can't completely 'check out' like I can with traditional stuff. I'm now finding it to be a distraction from my trad since neither pixel nor low-poly outright require pressure sensitivity, and I already own a very nice XP-Pen for when I do need it. I am actually considering selling the tablet while it's worth a damn and getting a set of Turner acrylic gouache to play with from some of the profit.
(My rule is to sell a finished work or destash before I buy a new medium to play with, unless I need it to finish a project.)
>Do you have specific programs you use that you enjoy using?For low poly, I'm just using Blender right now. I'm still learning and enjoying the process. It's worth paying the $10/mo for the resource school they offer.
For pixel art, I use Aseprite. Krita is also adding pixel perfect to 2.3. It felt great in the alpha build, so I'm looking forward to it in the full version since it's already a good program for index painting like in the old PC games.
(Pixel perfect isn't required for index painting, but I think it will be a good option for people interested in re-creating that old style alongside spriting. There was a nonna who asked about it a lot.)
For vector art, I have always used Adobe Illustrator up until recent. I'm using Inkscape right now and thinking about sticking with it. Part of me wants to pick up Corel Draw or Affinity Designer because using Adobe shit for 20 years warped my brain to accept and expect a certain amount of bloat in a software; but I'm finding it to be very intuitive (as far as vector software goes) the more I work with it. Since I only use vector art now for making stuff for cutting machines, the extra bloat is even more pointless.
No. 2388804
>>2388719>>2388787following some hack moid's paint by numbers pbs program is only going to teach her how to create that one specific painting. if she wants to actually learn how to use the medium effectively, she needs to go deeper than surface level paintalongs.
by all means, if she wants to make uninspired copies of bob ross landscapes, then she should watch bob ross, but if she actually wants to learn the basics of oil painting and create anything worthwhile, it's better to learn fundamentals of the medium from an actual instructor.
No. 2388813
>>2388804I don't want to argue, so thank you for posting these videos for her. Not only were they informative, the instructor is really thorough. I think that'll help her a lot.
Take care nonna.
No. 2389071
>>2389045Maybe you should nuke the accounts and start fresh? So you can weed out any tif followers/post things that will make them reluctant to follow you?
Why are there tifs following you anyways, are they from a fandom or something? No judgment, just curious.
No. 2389100
>>2389071This is my eighth online identity (I am mentally damaged KEK). I want it to be my last one, since I have shaken most of the shittier moids. It's a Nintendo and robot fandom-type art account with little to no reblogs. I don't even think the problem child here is a TIF funny enough, just an autist. And if you involve yourself on non-instagram things I swear it's always autistic people buzzing around. Can't shake them.
My art isn't phenomenal. I'm mediocre at best. But people can clock my art style with every account change somehow.
No. 2389159
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>>2389145Tried looking up what this VA sounds like, hopefully Avi Roque has a bigger range than this unless Alex is getting the classic gayvoice every tif has kek
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FijRsB2kJhMhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=1iSrOdiOS5g No. 2389525
>>2389045You should not do art requests for strangers if it takes you more than like 3 hours to draw something for them. You're just wasting your time when you could be using it to draw something you actually like and care about. Also close your dms. Messaging someone you don't know will only make them think that you owe them replies because the expectations for private messages differ from those for public comments. The best way to do it would be an anonymous askbox using something like curiouscat, no one will expect a drawing out of that or would be able to really follow up on it if you were to draw something "wrong".
>>2389159>>2389194Funny how anons will constantly bitch about brujo but still act like they'll be tuning in kek
No. 2389663
>>2389045People who chase free art are extremely entitled. Commissions are a pain in the ass enough as is, don't do them for free. DO NOT finish the damn request, the retard will learn nothing. Call them an entitled ass, shame them publicly if you feel like it.
Stop being complacent and nice. You think moid artists bother going through these troubles? Be a bit mean when it's necessary.
No. 2389922
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I have never seen a female artist more direly in need of intervention in her shitty marriage.
No. 2389992
>>2389525>You should not do art requests for strangers if it takes you more than like 3 hours to draw something for them.That's an interesting restriction. I was initially doing it to build a better portfolio since all of my art was done mindlessly and I needed some direction. Guess I was choosing the wrong approach.
>Also close your dms. Messaging someone you don't know will only make them think that you owe them replies because the expectations for private messages differ from those for public comments.I'm a bit retarded here. I opened up free art, but should just do it as random gifts instead? I… guess that works.
>>2389663They don't have any control over the requests, and my commissions offer far more options. I'm doing this more as an exercise for me than to appeal to others. Plus I was doing it as a free advert? Maybe raffles are better than just saying "come one, come all" I guess.
>the retard will learn nothingI'm surprised I haven't learned my fucking lesson yet.
Thanks for the tough love nonnas. I'll try to fix this. I just don't want to become a PurpleKecleon/GlitchPuppet 2.0 by being overly calloused.
No. 2390107
>>2389992>That's an interesting restriction.Kek I just mean it shouldn't take you longer than an afternoon if you do requests for people you don't know. And what direction do you expect to get from random autists on the internet? I don't believe you don't have ideas of your own to explore.
>I opened up free art, but should just do it as random gifts instead?You shouldn't do free art in the first place. At least draw for people you know aren't insane if you're going to do it anyway.
No. 2390341
>>2389922to put it simply, this really seems like a woman child
>he doesn't want a child yet even though I'm already 37!!even if he changed his mind, adoption would be the most realistic choice for obvious reasons.
No. 2390359
>>2389045It's ok to tell them they're being unreasonable and that their hostile attitude leaves you no longer comfortable working with/for them so you have stopped drawing their request. You can choose for yourself if you want to or not want to give them what you had so far. I wouldn't personally give them anything more at all unless they on their own accord gave a very sincere apology and admitted to having been the one in the wrong. They will very likely show it to others and post it in public, so word everything politely and nicely.
I have posted highly rendered art before with full backgrounds, and some people still boldly ask if I do free requests in that style. No, fuck you, I am not doing art for someone who clearly can't even tell the value of it is higher than "free".
No. 2390375
>>2389992if you want to draw for free to exercise, either draw for yourself or as a gift to a previous client you enjoyed working with.
>Plus I was doing it as a free advert?Anon, look, it's bad idea. You will be put up on a list of artists that can be bullied for free art. Happened to me like a decade ago, by furries. I know I sound schizo, but there are actively terminally online dickheads looking for artists to exploit online for free.
Good luck
No. 2390554
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>>2389525I like her art I just hate the tranny pickme shit. I wish she'd draw the side characters and mary more, I find them more likeable than Kate and the moid.
No. 2390632
>>2390340Taeshi. Her husband is Suitcase, they're huge cows to people who know of the comic she makes, which is pretty financially successful, to the point her husband has literally never used his law degree and just leeches off of her. He has a gambling addiction, by the way.
>>2390341She's a bpdchan so that kind of can't be helped, but she's put a lot of work into getting better, apparently specifically because she wanted to have a child, but her leech of a husband is just wasting her time. They've been together since they were 14.
No. 2390721
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>>2390676"kate is groundbreaking rep for underrepresented folx" meanwhile shes a misogynistic pickme who hates on other women but is "totes bi and qweer, shes just flustered because women are so pretty!!!!", is generally unpleasant but its fine and progressive. being retardedly jealous and having her entire narrative revolve around the moid shes dating and being hot to men isnt regressive because shes actually a """boy"""
she makes it way too easy to root for anyone whos up against kate. i dont care for the romance with the moid so kate has no redeeming qualities aside from looking cool. im not even sure what the show is gonna be about because all she ever posts is random unimportant facts about the main couple like what fortnite skins they play as.
No. 2390766
>>2390364"Yet". He's stringing her along to try and run out the clock.
>>2390721The best thing going for this series is the artstyle. I don't have high hopes for the writing because it literally doesn't feel like the she has much of an interest in storyline, just an obsession with characterization. I'll be really impressed if this show doesn't just end up being midish skit comedy.
No. 2390804
>>2390786Tiktokers wanna live out their retarded "
femcel dark triad siren coquette hikineet lain gf" fantasies by coming to lc
No. 2390909
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>>2390815>>2390786To be fair, if you wanted to watch new American/American-centric cartoons for a good while after 2009ish your only choices were wanime, ugly adult cartoon and calarts vomit. After a decade of that you would be excited to see something different. I don't like Brujo's art at all myself, but I can see why anons would and they wouldn't necessarily be underage or a zoomer to do so.
I would say more anons need to watch more Euro and Asian (that aren't anime) animation if they feel like they're not getting anything from American animation, there's a whole world you're missing out on.
No. 2390967
>>2388376>but did this happen to anyone else?Yes. My ex - first and probably last 3DPD I'd ever date (questionable) - dated me because "artists are so hot", then proceeded to cheat on me with a series of other artists in his local area. It was long distance, so he'd sleep around and then tell me in great description about who he slept with and how well she drew compared to me. I broke it off immediately but tried to be ammicable towards him due to shared friend groups (and I was private about us dating at all), but it took him about 8 years to realize that I wasn't his "babe" anymore.
>Usually people see this as a reason of pride, cause they believe their partner loves them for their effort or talentGiving them too much credit imo. My ex was purely in it because I was his personal porn machine.
No. 2390986
>>2388476Okay. There is definitely a genre of men that are into women who are artists + (insert trait). I think the one I dated had a white savior complex, since he kept sleeping with BROKE artists; not even successful ones. Like he was really seeking out artists of my race that made barely any cash. I vividly remember him openly going after a friend of mine, a TIF who was nonbinary and had a BPD gf who was also a TIF. He expressed how eager he was to date her CONSTANTLY, despite said friend insisting she was only into her own gf.
She was the same race as me and also an artist.
No. 2391010
>>2390359Alright. Thanks nonna.
Have been grasping for straws at how to increase my visibility without caving to Anime of the Month or something and it's a struggle. I'm too soft.
No. 2391521
>>2390333I've not tried this brand, but I can recommend Brutfuner, which are similar (as far as being oil based, affordable, and made in China goes). The core is also thicker
It's always under some weird ghost brand on Amazon, though, but it'll still say Brutfuner on the box. You'll see it pop up on AliExpress as itself.
No. 2391612
>>2391554Absolutely. I’m in art school right now (for animation/comics) and they’re giving us lessons on Ai, 3D models etc. Most of our teachers are industry ppl and they all tell us this is the case, that you need to ‘cheat’.
If you’re into art to make comics or cartoons or any kind of narrative medium, art is a tool to tell the story, and it matters very little how you made it as long as it looks functional.
It can kinda hurt to realize this because I’m also someone who loves putting as much effort as I can into my stuff, and I’ve worked very hard to get where I am, but you can always draw from scratch on personal pieces during your free time.
It’s not too bad though, artists have always used tools like this to ‘cheat’ and make the process faster, even before digital art or AI and 3D models. And once art really becomes a job, you’re grateful for them. Work smarter not harder!
No. 2391770
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my apologies if it was already mention before but I'm so sick of tiktok zoomies creating retarded labels for everything, that's the most genetic rendering style ever, how is it different from russians? They did not invented this artstyle
No. 2391849
>>2391770I wish I felt more coherent at this early hour to say more but I hate this retarded habit. Everything is some kind of one-word "artstyle" when it's just coloring or it's something that already has a name, at most. I think this is why so many of them suffer style PTSD or have such weird and ugly amalgamate styles and can render but not draw for shit, have weird rendering, etc, because they're already having aneurisms trying to figure out what basic coloring is "called" and how to slap it on a hastily doodled genshin character.
I've seen people call just sketching normally a "style" so the retardation goes deep.
No. 2391866
>>2391849Everytime i go to pinterest comment section under any random art, there's always retards asking "what artstyle is this"
Same with "jelly artstyle" it's just an ugly attempt at semi-realistic stylization, things that get popular on tik tok quickly die out so i'm not that annoyed
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>>2391846I feel like they are trying to reference russian artists like Mugenoumi or astrocatsama. Stupid name though
No. 2391905
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>>2391900no, they most likely skinwalk artists like pyanyasha (i think she's not even russian kek)
No. 2391912
>>2391905>>2391900The thing about these styles though is that their base is Japanese /Korean artists. These styles were popular on personal homepages, pixiv, etc, all through the 2000s.
I know that everything was something else first, I think it's just a greater indication of how zoomers (and other ages of chronically online) don't think that anything beyond what's in front of them right now has happened before. These styles didn't start with these artists and it they'd looked at anything beyond TikTok, Instagram, etc, they might see this. I sound like such a sperg I'm sure but it's a really concerning phenomenon when you think about it more deeply than dumb zoomers and aesthetic "artstyles"
No. 2391975
>>2391554I struggle with this too. Illustration usually segues into game design and they don’t care about tracing, using models or matte painting (fancy digital collage basically). A completely different mindset from academic traditional artists for sure.
>>2391933Daria is best watched with the original music. It is a time capsule but the messages and characters are still relevant. Maybe xoomies would learn something from watching older media instead of someone telling them what to think or ripping off another style. It’s the lack of curiosity that bothers me, especially media and fashion.
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>>2391912you're right, the use of dust texture on the skin of this artstyle reminds me of Shingo Matsunuma
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>>2391846The only style I think I can
sus out being mostly Slavic is their version of wanime, otherwise they're incredibly varied depending on environmental factors.
No. 2392854
>>2384786I think her artwork is really nice I'm just skeptical of her writing ability. She insists on having the story take place in 2000s USA despite being open about not being sufficiently familiar with the setting, I think it will be easy for her to inadvertently write something that gets perceived as offensive for that reason.
She should just have her story be set in modern day Mexico with a nostalgic art style. She'd probably get more support from Latin America if she did that. There's literally zero upside to pandering to Americans.
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just make them lesbians
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she used to make pretty and diverse art, now it’s all fetish slop of her self insert persona and her artworks all look the same
No. 2393029
>>2392987Look, this is artist salt. I don't know if you're one anon that keeps complaining every few dozen posts, or if there are multiple. But clearly there are more than a few anons interested in watching the oncoming BrujoAri trainwreck.
PLEASE post some of your own personal salt or cows. I would love to read about any cringe artists you see, but complaining like this just comes off as bitter or a wk.
No. 2393054
>>2391770The obsession with art styles is insufferable. Literally the most surface level thing you could be discussing on its own. It's important, it can help convey feelings, but on its own who care's if your art is not evoking any feelings in anyone, if you have no subjects that interest you. Just chasing symbols with no reason, you'll never be satisfied because there's a million nice ways you can draw something.
>>2392959It's good to bounce ideas off of other people but constantly reaching for advice from your audience can't end well. You can never please everyone and your art well end up lukewarm without a vision as a result
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>MFW I find out someone else already drew first the art concept I had in my mind
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>>2393132Nonnie don't give up, your future fans will eat well because of you. Even if you draw one line you're a genius.
No. 2393307
>>2393278What talentless retards have done to our upcoming artists… These "people" will go on tiktok and mindlessly scroll a "trend" of randos using the same audio and actions for an hour and then cancel an artist for using the same brush as their fave. I will be honest these people who could potentially cancel you are only doing that because they never cultivated any skills. They're panicking because they don't have any "power" to fall back on like artists do, so their only "power" comes from bullying. It's all born from inferiority. I know this because I used to hang around these types before I realised what kind of people they were. They all have shit family lives and have no idea how to live in a way that isn't high drama. Unfortunately I couldn't fix them and you won't be able to either because their shit lives started before even
they were born. I suggest continuing to draw and letting people like them be lost causes who project onto you. They can choose to change themselves when you block them.
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>>2393054Personally I would rather personally consult 1-2 TIFs (like the art version of 'sensitivity readers' that authors often use when writing 'diversely') than listen to a bunch of random gendies online. Not saying that talking to TIFs about how to write one accurately would be painless, but I would take that over trying to please 20 different gendies at once. Gender ideology is too contradictory for that.
What do you nonnies think of 'request culture' in general? Since the behaviour is from kids or young teens, it's expected, but it still pisses me off. Certain kinds of diverse art attracts simple questions ("can you draw ___ please?"), which can be slightly annoying, to outright guilt-tripping, which is incredibly irritating. I feel like when artists virtue signal to the wokies they kind of deserve this treatment though - never try to fill an empty bucket. Picrel is the comment section from Royals of Cora's TikTok.
No. 2393356
>>2393345>What do you nonnies think of 'request culture' in general?I have no idea what that means honestly. I see it as you either do requests or you don't. It being a "culture" feels off to me. Maybe… moreso category of people? I could just be too literal about this. If it is a culture it needs to stop kek
There are some chronic morons who only look for artists online that do free art and the collect it on a single social media page (typically filled with the same exact shit done over and over like a specific character or ship with themselves). I hate those people. But I probably feed into the cycle because I like drawing for others moreso than drawing for me.
Personally I live for the excited keysmashing reaction of someone receiving art from me, free or otherwise. So I like requests if I'm taking them. If I'm not it makes me unreasonably sassy.
No. 2393357
>>2393351I understand that a lot of Eastern European countries have bad history with Russia, but they're even like that towards each other kek.
>>2393353I'm predicting they're going to rush through every kingdom and the audience is going to whine about it being ~surface level and stereotypical~ especially if one country gets more screentime than the others kek.
No. 2393359
>>2393307Very true and I wish the general public understood this. I hate when some seething loser makes a callout over something extremely petty while making it sound as serious as possible and it randomly blows up. Luckily it literally never matters. Even the biggest dramas like Kooleens racism allegations simply don't matter to the average social media user. Not even the people actively discussing it care that much.
>>2393345Insanely funny whenever people make annoying ass requests like this and the artist goes "That sounds so good, I'd love to do that some day!" and never does it kek. If you want a specific kind of rep you have to make it yourself, asking someone who has no idea about your culture to do so will only result in soulless designs
No. 2393377
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>>2393369That's what's kind of funny about it, Eastern European countries in particular have so much genuinely awesome animated media but because they're not getting as much attention as American and Canadian audiences it's not enough and somehow other people's problem.
No. 2393395
>>2393357>>2393353Yes, this cartoon genuinely does have 52 kingdoms planned. In fact, I will literally list all known kingdoms out (because I'm that autistic of a hater.)
> Vietnam, Philippines, Turkey, India, Russia, China, Sudan, Colombia, France, Nigeria, Iran, Italy, Albania, Brazil, Venezuela, Nepal, Pakistan, Germany, Guatemala.That's 19 countries. Literally impossible to represent all of them unless they have an impossible amount of funding and are willing to make 100 episodes. - we'll be lucky to have even the four main characters' kingdoms 'represented.'
No. 2393694
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Is it possible to draw cute girlies like Picrel without being followed by a hoard of degenerated moids?
Me and my mom love to draw sarah kay, and I give them my own touch by drawing them in the same-ish style but as monster girls like vampires, mummies, and so on.
but after uploading them for a few months on DeviantArt (back in 2010) I started being followed by retards who also favorited a lot of nsfw drawings featuring young girls, so I deleted my account.
What should I do? This makes me so mad
No. 2393703
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I just remembered that Dickishly (the coomer artist) is apparently a woman. I was genuinely so confused because the art on the Twitter looks so effectively coomerish and genuinely as if they were all drawn by a male. Why does she have multiple ocs revolving around white moids raping black and latina women? Is it her fetish? Is she gay and objectifies the concept of women in a way that aligns with any coomer scrote? Or does she just do this out of raw brainrot to sexually objectify women even if not personally attracted to them? Can any expert please explain Dickishly to me? I'm so fucking confused.
No. 2393708
>>2393694IMO you can tell when a woman draws something cute and innocent like picrel verses lolifags since they will always lewd the drawing. They reference other lolifags, emphasize the curves / legs / crotch (gross), and make the girl look weirdly shiny.
I would love to see more female artists make storybook-esc illustrations of cute girls like picrel and similar to the nice drawings in the /m/ good furry art thread. If you focus on the artistic nature elements and things gross lolicons wouldn't care about like backgrounds, then I think you would generate an audience of women over time. Sorry you have to deal with gross people online, but there's lots of people who would love your art.
No. 2393718
>>2393388I used to think that way but as I got older I changed my mind. Like, I've seen enough slop about americans for a lifetime, I genuinely don't give a fuck about their dumbass issues anymore. Having at least a few characters of different backgrounds in any given media makes it much more interesting than it would've otherwise been. And I don't need to see myself in media but it's a nice bonus if it's actually relatable to me in some way.
>>2393694Likely happened because you're posting on the one website with probably the highest concentration of degens. Try it on twitter, tiktok or tumblr instead. Closely monitor your following for the first couple of weeks/months and block anyone you get bad vibes from.
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>>2393703Most likely a TIF
No. 2393723
>>2393539Aside from the good points you raised about the offensive character design, I also just think it's really weird, like that one time there was a random hijabi character in Steven Universe, even though there were no other established religions in that show iirc. Putting a hijab on a character means that fantasy Islam is a thing in this world, but there are no other fantasy versions of real life religions mentioned so far like Buddhism or Christianity, which feels real offputting.
The worst case scenario is that they literally just put the hijab on that character as an accessory. I can sense that is not going to go well if they mess up the writing and encounter the wrong audience.
One thing I personally despise about these types is how blatantly they virtue signal like picrel. Like, do you really want asspats and applause for parting a black girl's hair? Get a grip. I hate how wokies act like god's gift to black women and other marginalized groups just because they shat out an OC after a quick glance at Wikipedia.
>>2393694That must've really sucked to experience, I really hope that you find a great audience this time round
nonnie! I vaguely remember a similar question being discussed many threads ago. One suggestion was to draw cute boys as well, like some sort of safeguard against moids lmao. I myself draw a fair amount of cute boys and cute girls and my audience is mostly women (with a significant amount of TIFs, but I'll take those over moids.) Can any other nonnies confirm the 'draw boys, avoid moids' theory?
No. 2393725
>>2393703I'm convinced the brown girl is her actual self insert but she's too misogynistic to admit it, there's no difference to me between
>>2392994 and this except the rapist husbando. She's probably fat irl so she draws the girl as thicc or something
No. 2393751
>>2393723The designs for these characters aren't good and the team seems way too attached to their initial designs.
>>2393733shotacons are not nearly as common as lolicons and stick to their own circles
No. 2393758
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>>2393725>>2393752She used to draw these characters from the new batman movie and they look extremely familiar to her main OCs, looks like another Brujo Ari situation
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>>2393758they look straight out of that kim kardashian game
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>>2393861More like a badly rendered version of episode!
No. 2394028
>>2393132Even if someone draws a similar concept, they didn't steal it out of your brain nona, you're the only one who can draw it the way
you envisioned it.
No. 2394094
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>>2393758The woman is drawn so coomery but the size difference instantly tells me this was drawn by a female, it's crazy.
>>2394056I guess the appeal is being 'defiled'. Could explain stuff like picrel.
No. 2394123
>>2394094The way she draws women is upsetting, they look like onahole-funko pops hybrids
>>2393963Femboys are most appealing to male bisexual pedos, this aesthetic/fetish is free real estate for groomers
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No. 2394158
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>>2394151Some reactions to this comic that I found
No. 2394163
>>2394158>"Cis" woman>"Mimicking AGPs"I'm surprised this male has the brainpower to navigate Twitter
and breathe without assistance at the same time, very impressive!
No. 2394176
>>2394158>the truth doesn't hurtWhat truth? That moids got butthurt over a period tracker?
>you're just a typical mysandristKeep playing the
victim, scrote
No. 2394244
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>>2394169I like how they didn't also use anime or manga as an example, just a rom-com instead which is a genre for both men and women, usually more for men because of how fucking ugly and psychotic the male leads can be.
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>>2393395I don't know if you guys are in the indie animation space but theres tons of stuff like this being promoted there. Its all awful and there are very little actually good projects.
>>2393723Also lol at this comment on that tiktok.
No. 2394375
lol
No. 2394417
>>2394094The onahole in the background really sells it for me
>>2394223She draws all her OCS with this 'thicc' body type, I wouldn't be surprised if she is fat or fat at one point
No. 2394534
>>2394151>>2394158I was thinking of making my own edit but with real examples.What biological male would ever make an edit like that? Moids are so dumb. These ones in particular are ultra-salty.
>>2394163Moids still think there are no women on the internet so they forget that AGPs are the ones who try to mimic women's online behavior, not the other way around.
>>2394169The male equivalent to that movie is the countless sex comedies for moids from the 90s and early 00s. Full of gross and misogynistic sex jokes, ugly scrotes, pornstar-tier women and very little actual romance. Same with countless harem anime that the average romance shoujo or reverse harem otome adaptation isn't comparable to.
But when they make these comparisons, they know they're being disingenuous. They know they goon to rape lolicon and incest harem eroge 24/7 when they're not pretending to be morally superior to women. It's not worth it to waste your energy on them because you can't win an argument against a retard.
No. 2394546
>>2393703As if straight pseudo-bisexual women who grew up with a hentai addiction weren't a dime a dozen on the internet. Like
>>2393752 said, sexualizing the female character, often a self-insert, is the only way they know how to get off. It's just peak pickmeism and NLOGism. Nothing surprising or worth overanalyzing or scrotefoiling.
She clearly enjoys the attention she gets for being "unique" and fetishizing her own low self-esteem to an extreme. The appeal in the ugly incel-y porn addict moid is the fantasy that he'd be obsessed with you(r body) and it's typically seen in self-loathing girls and women who haven't even thought about the possibility of being desired by a better male. And their hentai addiction has taught them that the more degenerate and extreme stuff is better. But of course, there are still traces of her very female thought process, such as the subtle romanticism in the pregnancy pic
>>2394094 . The women also aren't drawn that coomery, they look relatively normal compared to what a moid would draw.
No. 2394635
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This dumb oc trend got boring forever ago. Gendies are no different from the “cis” “heterosexual” normies they call boring. One group loves sexy girl ocs, the other loves sexy girl ocs but virtue signals about it
No. 2394900
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Kek what the hell??
No. 2394911
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>>2394169>>2394534man's romance is actually this
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>>2394900>>2394902It's really shitty when you make something because you just think it's cute or whatever and then some asshole makes retarded jokes like those. More people need to get told that they're fucking stupid, really, nobody needs to read/hear everyone's "witty" jokes or idiotic comments.
It's like calling random characters sluts or whores in shit that's entirely out of context, just psychotic bullshit.
No. 2395398
>>2395349I dont know if its a tism problem or just a problem with me. Reference always helps me but just trying to think of how to position objects onto other objects, or how they interact with each other, is nigh impossible. especially trying to figure out how clothes will fall. It just requires me to have to find very very specific photos to reference and its a real drag especially if I cant find one close enough to the form I am trying to create. But I will try cubes I honestly never thought about that thank you!
>>2395392Realism isnt even what I am going for sadly, I have a decent style, the tough part is just trying to visualize how anything will or should actually look. Just trying to make sure things make sense in the space is my issue when I cant create it in my head. But sticking with refrences seems to be the advice, thank you! I will just look harder for specific forms I am looking to draw to help me out.
No. 2395407
>>2395349>Wait is this really an autism problem? Speaking as a diagnosed autist, no. It's at least certainly not universal because I can very easily visualize and turn things in 3D in my mind and I've always been complimented for having such intuitive lighting skills for art. I think it's very common to struggle with it though, my non-autist friends say they can't do it well or at all and even attribute my ability to do it with my autism kek
>>2395398>the tough part is just trying to visualize how anything will or should actually look.I'm gonna give you a dirty tip here, but steal! Copy! Trace! If you can't do it naturally you can force it to some degree by using muscle memory. Eventually you'll be able to default to what you've traced before, but because you don't remember it 1:1 perfectly it will have your personal quirks with it that makes it yours.
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Haven’t seen this yet, I wonder if it’s an update that’s rolling out or it only applies to artists who haven’t opted out of grok ai in privacy settings?
No. 2395963
>>2395933>>2395945i know that there was a post asking about tiktok here before and the replies were negative, but to be frank tiktok is probably the best when it comes to boosting new artist videos. i remember when i first made my post on there, a speedpaint of an artwork i did and i wasn't expecting much since it was my very first post there, but to my surprise the tiktok algorithm actually made random people see my video and it got a decent amount of likes.
i know that a tip is to choose a sound that's trending, tiktok will give you a list of audios for you and you can choose from there. and to also keep your hashtags no more than 5. #art #illustration #speedpaint #drawing #fyp for example. but also, posting with no hashtags also works too. the tiktok algorithm is the only algorithm i know out of all the other major social media sites (twitter, instagram, etc) that actually boosts random videos, that's how people with little followers will have their meme video get over a million likes
it's definitely not perfect, sometimes i notice that the algorithm won't spread my video much as my previous videos judging by the amount of views. it might have something to do with how many people repost your vid. but this kind of thing is basically unheard of with twitter and ig. continuing to post videos to my account helped me build my follower base.
and i've also noticed that tiktok has the art community where people will comment the most too which is nice. people barely comment on my posts on twiter and ig but the people on tiktok aren't shy to comment in comparison, might be because most of the users there are younger than twitter and ig users
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>>2395952ntayrt I did think the chest looked strange but I chalked it up to the artist sucking at drawing boobs. But now that you mention pecs it’s starting to weirdly make sense kek, what a degenerate design
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>>2395964it wouldn't look so much like boobs if he'd had a normal male waist, but also because the artist renders the chest in a weird way so it just looks off regardless. shame because I would've actually liked this design had it not been for those factors
No. 2396010
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>>2395846>At this point why would you be a hetfag publicly just say it's gay porn“Queer” art is so overrun with these, their obsession with pornified het dynamics is truly terminal
No. 2396053
>>2396010That's just generic seme uke dynamic but make it kweer. I thought it's reinforces gender stereotypes and
problematic?
No. 2396114
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>>2395978If the proportions were changed to the point where it actually looked like a man (and also wore things that actually suited the shape of the body and not just Jessica Rabbit deviantart slop) I wouldn't mind the design. It wouldn't even be un"queer"ing him because the god he's named after (or is?) is a fag and he can keep the face and hair.
No. 2396307
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>>2396203>if I see anyone virtue signaling about how much "queer" or "gay" porn they look at I'm just going to assume it's a spicy straightReminds me of a comics artist, Marinscos (maybe nonas into webcomics or western lesbian art circles have heard of her) her entire art career was just virtue signaling and being a "lesbian" as her online brand. She went viral for her comic about discovering she was a lesbian, and published a lesbian graphic novel
about a jock cheating on her cheerleader gf with an nlog tomboy who secretly loves being feminine kekHer art is so mediocre and she's barely improved in nearly a decade, lesbianism was the probably the main thing carrying her popularity.
Anyway, she recently shared her porn account where she proclaims to draw "yaoi" and "yuri", except all of it is big buff daddy doms dicking small cuntboys and futas dicking women.
She's much more active there now than her main account, so maybe she's at least found her true calling among the corner of bihets and straight queer coomers instead of contributing to the dire state of lesbian content.
No. 2396725
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>>2396571>Is this polyshit? Are the three girls a polycule?Nah, according to goodreads reviews it’s just a typical love triangle (some polyfags were disappointed kek).
Upon further googling, turns out somebody uploaded it so you can read it for free and judge the quality yourself. Tbf I may have exaggerated in my initial description of it based off negative reviews lol, I personally find the art/writing style too unappealing to read through though
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Belle-of-the-Ball/TPB No. 2396729
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>>2373958moids are fucking crazy i swear to god.
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>>2396729the snarky and rude reply in question
No. 2396735
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>>2396730If you arent a DAD user you might be asking why moids mad. Well, moids mad because the group of friends leave nice comments on posts. TOPKEK. These are the same losers that cry about the male loneliness epidemic. I have been using DAD for years and i am glad new users are joining and cleansing the site from faggot NGMI moids.
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i know no1currs and he's my personal horror artcow, but dorontabi is having a meltdown again and he locked his account for the 2451th time
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>>2396549Yet another example of how wokies always cannibalize each other. They'll never be happy, so don't bother trying to please them. At least it's a tranny sucking follower cock this time instead of an actual woman.
No. 2397258
>>2395398I am exactly the same and I have dyspraxia. It might not fit you but it's worth looking into as it's often comorbid with autism. I can't imagine anything in 3d or rotate objects. I use grids heavily and I often get my concepts from browsing photos instead of the other way around. Also if you can't find references, make references. Take pictures of yourself, your environment (position stuff in your room, also when you're out and about if you see anything cool). Drape some fabric over a chair and take a picture of it from multiple different angles. Dress up in similar clothes and use the self timer or get a friend or family member to help.
If you really struggle with perspective, you can incorporate distorted perspective into your style. It's still good to learn but it gives you a bit of leeway. It also can look really cool. I don't stress about this stuff too much as it's a major symptom of my disorder. Everyone's good at different things and I'm sure you have lots of skills too nona
No. 2397369
>>2397009NTA but she meant the specific post that was screenshot
>>2396735 was being sarcastic. I'm sure that post was making fun of the scrotes you're talking about, and wasn't made by one of the scrotes themselves.
No. 2397394
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how do artists pick good colors? I know about the values thing but i still don't understand
No. 2397431
>>2397394I just colorpick from good art kek
Sometimes I use gradient maps as well (as in duplicating the image, applying the gradient and playing with its layer modes)
No. 2397462
>>2397394Establish what the theme of your work is and incorporate the colors from it.
The theme could be anything—if your theme is "forest" then pick the colors coming from that place: greens, browns, yellow. If "morning" then pick blue, white, and yellow and so on and so forth.
No. 2397696
>>2397524Yeah, life got a lot easier once I realized that kek.
It's better if your subject and art you're color picking are similar (ie use a pic of a girl with black hair and yellow clothing if that's what you're gonna draw) and copy the color balance/how the shadows etc are colored. Otherwise you have chances of your drawing not looking harmonious if you blindy colorpick.
No. 2397782
>>2397394I've seen the book "the art of color" by johannes ittens recommended a lot, I haven't gotten around to reading it yet but hopefully it helps you out
>>2397431yeah what
>>2397747 said, it does sound like it could make things easier but can you actually learn from it? I don't wanna permanently rely on referencing and copying other artists forever
No. 2397855
>>2397803when I googled it the first result was the book on archive.org:
https://archive.org/details/johannes-ittens-the-art-of-color I have it downloaded just in case it gets taken down too
No. 2398370
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is pinterest deleting all their references for anyone else? it says its because its "innapropiate" but its not even nude
why would they remove that but not fetish pics and the random anime porn?
No. 2398407
>>2398370Do you have them saved to your phone or computer files at least? Social media taught me to always save images because people are always DFE or getting suspended for whatever reason. I remember when tumblr used to flag random images as nsfw(and expect you to appeal or they’d delete it) and twitter would suspend people for saying the word die/death. Your refs were probably
victim to faulty algorithm.
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mfw you post a piece you're proud of and like a lot only to get no reaction, not even a single nice comment
No. 2399354
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HOW do you achieve this level of skill? HOW and for how long do I have to learn to achieve it??
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>>2399354The texture of the skin NGGHHHHHHHHHH
No. 2399377
>>2398926You can't be taking likes or retweets seriously, especially if you're not even on talking terms with those mutuals. If your art was appealing enough to them they'd share it. Be happy they're being nice about it kek
>>2399354I feel like if you have to ask you're not capable of reaching this level. Getting better at realism is pretty straightforward. There are hundreds of books and tutorials that you could be studying right now but you're wasting time browsing lolcow
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>>2399388Paint traditionally then
No. 2399414
>>2399397KEK
>>2399409From one ADHD to another, I do feel like you're using it as an excuse to not even try. Normal people also struggle with memorizing commands, it's not like they do it once and knows it forever.
No. 2399670
>>2399354Her rendering ability is insane, I'm a big fan of her other pieces.
She's basically a master of values, I'm sure she's done a gazillion studies, rigorously studied the fundamentals, gotten feedback, repeat… start with small/simpler goals at first and then work your way up so you don't get burnt out, enjoy the process, be proud of your milestones, be consistent, so on.
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>>2399409I don't want to rag on you but if you're not going to use digital art programs you shouldn't have a digital artist as your inspiration because it's impossible to render max to that degree in a quick amount of time using traditional tools. You should be realistic with yourself, unless you are a oil painter with a lot of time on your hands you won't achieve that effect, that's not to say you can't have high quality realistic trad art (picrel) but you're specifically asking how to do something that can only feasibly achieved on digital or by spending months on a single painting.
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>>2398158The context is the game being a porn game "Unteralerbach" where the whole premise is to rape little girls, literally. The creator ran off because he based off most of his models off real kids (one of the fathers has threatened lawsuits because his daughter kept being used for this kind of stuff in general). This game is so repulsive, that it's actually banned in a lot of countries. Some poster posted a very little girl playing the game on his lap, and took two photos of her playing it. This is what my friend sent me recently, she said she simply just searched up "discord" on /ic/ on one of the archives, and saw a post that directed to this. Most moids into art are sex pests anyway, I don't know why any woman would associate with them.
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>>2399354>>2399371i know that people love sucking off japanese, korean, and russian artists but mainland china really does have the best digital artists i've seen on social media imo. and i think the country's internet firewall is what prevents the west in seeing more cn artists post their art, that's why they're still kind of underrated. you can tell when an artist is chinese because the way they paint, render, and choose colors has this specific feel even though their artstyles won't necessarily look the same.
i imagine their art scene is insanely competitive, maybe the most competitive in the world since they're the most populated country? i really wish we could see what they teach at chinese art schools, the way they teach must be different
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I think i royally fucked up. I was close to getting a big following before i blew it all over by writing terfy replies, now i lost a bunch of them and other bigger artists that still follow me don't want to retweet my drawings anymore. I didn't even say anything explicit like "KILL ALL TRANNIES" or "ABORT MALE FETUSES" mind you, all i said were vaguely feminist replies that could be interpreted as terfy. I'm so tired of this why cant i as a woman say what i want, why am i forced to walk on eggshells when male artists say worse stuff and they get away with it? I hate modern social media.
Is there any way to save myself or should i just go by a new username and start it all over?
No. 2400304
>>2399354What's your current skill level? Post art?
I'd say over ten years if you are not studying very focused and intensively. You can learn this from basically any art book on realism and painting. You just need dedication.
The thing that kills me about this style, even though I don't necessarily want to make art like this (this level of detail, even within realistic art, feels like over doing it imo), is that I have all of the skill sets for making it, I lack patience and speed, horrendously. Just reminds me of that flaw of mine haha
No. 2400787
>>2400782NTA, i had so much fun learning fundamentals but it took me years to be comfortable drawing digitally. I wouldn't say digital is harder, just overwhelming and off, maybe AYRT is trying to describe this feeling. Using any color in particular is intuitive with traditional tools and some color theory knowledge but it's completely different (to us) on digital.
>>2399388>I'm scared of trying digital tbh. I have adhdTons of people don't have ADHD and have your problem, it's not an ADHD problem. You can stick to traditional if you really can't get used to it, it's okay and it'll probably look better than digital. Anyways what the fuck is ADHD even about these days? Why do so many artists have it?
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does anyone know how i can improve my art work ethic? like how to start and finish art pieces faster? I'm a NEET right now looking for a job with no luck cuz the market is currently shit, and I need to make enough money before the year ends.
I have like 4 commissions to finish that I've been dealing with for a month now, and I need to find a finesse to pump out art more quickly. Burnout isn't a factor im too worried about cause I've always been a slow artist, and I have so much time on my hands
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>>2396114>Eros is a queer fag!>literally the most known story about him is a Beauty & Beast fairytale that has him with a woman, PsycheFags keep coping
No. 2400877
>>2400860Or just for learning in general to be honest.
For awhile I had to ditch CSP and move to MS Paint and Fire Alpaca because I noticed I relied too much on its tools (liquify, brush textures and color variations, etc) to make my art look good instead of learning fundies. Those two programs forced me to git gut if I wanted my drawings to be ok.
CSP/PS tools are good and here for a reason, but if you want to improve in art is kind of like frying some pre-cooked meal instead of doing it from scratch yourself.
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>>2396725>draw a man>call it a woman>call it a lesbian romanceFucking spicy straights
No. 2400889
>>2400877>Or just for learning in general to be honestayrt and yeah exactly– people just treat digital art like it's uniquely complex to dive into, even though traditional has essentially the exact same 'problem' if you jump into it with no guidance or limitations. Glad you worked out a way to focus on your fundies and improve as well anon!
(I actually forgot that there's a liquefy tool in CSP kek… it's the main 2D program I use but I pretty much never touch anything outside of the brush/tool palette lmao)
No. 2400890
>>2400143>>2400198I beg you don't make an alt, just don't interact with nasties. It's always a nice surprise to find
terf artists in the wild, hold your ground by just actually ignoring them and keep quiet for a while
No. 2400894
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>>2400881damn you weren't kidding, the jock looks and acts male and is almost undistinguishable from a moid. this definitely doesn't feel like a lesbian romance, looks like she just tacked boobs on a male character to turn a bog standard hetero live triangle into marketable lesbian content.
No. 2400900
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>>2400304Ok then if i'm not this good in 10 years then i'm killing myself
No. 2400901
>>2400822Yeah, I have some tips that might work for you.
-Plan your pieces to be impactful without relying on details or rendermaxxing to make them appealing. Lots of contrast, strong compositions, good use of color and perspective. Obviously details and rendering are important but they shouldn't be the main focus of your work.
-Backgrounds are great and you should have them if you don't already. Keep it simple but make it look detailed- you can add skylines, furniture, and landscapes that are painted with just a few colors and brushstrokes, but look impressive and add a lot to the finished piece. Plus, you can charge more for them.
-Know what details to pay attention to. Raindrops on windows, fog, and transparent and glowing things are some of my personal favorites to include. They're easy to paint and really make the whole piece look impressive. Don't waste your time meticulously painting in every leaf on a tree or adding detailed patterns to clothing and rendermaxxing everything, at best nobody will notice and at worst it'll make your work look like AI.
-Have some templates you can use. Color palettes you know will work well, compositions you know will give the effect you want, backgrounds you know you can do quickly and effectively. You can save a lot of time by starting with a tried and tested formula.
-DO STRETCHES. Wrist and hand stretches, full body stretches, neck stretches. Please look after yourself!
No. 2401210
>>2400900Nonna, please. Just learn rendering + (sensical) collaging + and transition from hard round brush to textured ones. The key to complex art is learning the magic of performing quickly.
(Also, as an American, wtf this is almost cringeworthy)
No. 2401365
>>2401348Super fun and convenient to use and can last a long time if you properly take care of them, the final result has an unique touch you can't replicate neither in digital nor in other trad media like watercolors and they're a luxury few can afford. But in my opinion them being too fucking expensive isn't even the main problem, the biggest downside is the fact that they're NOT lightfast so your work will fade in time. And you can run into other issues like cracked caps, dry markers, and once your marker is dry it's impossible to revive it anymore. That's why most people nowadays switched to ohuhu alcohol markers, they're budget friendly and the result is similar. They smell worse though and I think right now you can't refill the markers. In the end, it boils down to how much money do you have, if you can afford them, copics are a joy to use, but if you don't, maybe try ohuhu instead.
No. 2401538
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>>2401210nta but KEK it's supposed to be jojos bizzare adventure fanart, I follow the artist and I never realized looking at the piece out of context makes no sense. I think he's supposed to be president in the story.
No. 2401579
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>>2400900I’m not sure what it is about this artist but her pieces don’t do much for me. I recognize the skill level needed to do this and admire the obvious time and commitment she put in to get to this point. But I find them somewhat unappealing as finished works.
>>2400911>kinkade for weabooskek that might be what I’m responding to. You’re totally right it has that almost twee or sanitized quality kinkade has. Maybe I would appreciate it more if I was into Jojoba or whatever the series is called.
No. 2401700
>>2401330Always have your story planned out before you start posting. You should always re-read your comic to check that what you're planning makes sense, isn't wildly out of character, and doesn't make your story shit. Don't do Marvel-tier plot twists or add anything purely for shock value, and absolutely never ever address any comments from/about/vaguely related to the alphabet community, woke bait, or anything relating to current hot topics like ACAB. If you reply to them even once, whether you agree or not, they'll keep dogpiling you until you cave to their retarded demands, and they won't stop no matter what you do because all they want is to be assholes.
If you keep posting your work and don't interact with comments beyond an occasional 'thanks' or 'glad you like it!' you'll filter out the retards soon enough.
And no, don't change your story because of comments. Fanfiction exists for a reason. You can take some audience feedback into account for things like pacing or the art style, if you want to, but unless they point out some gaping plot holes in your story, don't worry about their opinions.
TLDR don't change the plot to pander to someone else's whims. You can post side stories and extras if there's something you want to address that doesn't fit into the main narrative.
No. 2402255
>>2398926Might be a way of them being supportive but not actually liking your art enough to put it on their own page. Nothing to call them out about, might be more a thing to use to reassess your own values I think. Consider if what you're doing is for self-satisfying reasons or for the appeal of a bigger audience. Once you know the answer to this, it'll maybe bother you less.
Or more idk
No. 2402261
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>>2401694>also for any commission nonnies here do you ever feel less motivated to complete someone's commission if you don't like the subject that they commissioned you to draw? or do you just not care bc you'll be getting paid for it anyway lolI lose motivation if it's an absolutely autistic thing or if the client is difficult. Sometimes the design itself will carry me and I'll enjoy doing it, but that's rare. I've seen some artists open commissions for a specific fanbase (I forgot the artist, but they were doing only Eldin Ring commissions? Might've been ExtraVertebrae. picrel)
No. 2402796
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There are so many dip pen/brush inks on clearance at Michael's right now, I don't wanna be a hoarder but I really like what I bought so far. Ink doodling is so relaxing
No. 2403193
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There's an artist I really really like, and I want to get better at drawing hair / hair forms. Dumb question but if I just study him directly by copying one-to-one (not tracing), will that help me get better?
No. 2403412
>>2400890>>2401108>>2401279>>2401279Nonnas i'm still standing my ground but i cant help but feel like it's over for me, i draw for a fandom and all the big western accounts and tifs of it hate me. I didn't get a callout made on me yet but i'm pretty sure they are already talking about how evil and bigoted i am in their secret group chats and collecting screen caps. I'm just gonna ignore it all if i do end up getting cancelled, maybe i can cultivate a community of terfs who also like the same things i do kek.
>>2401090I want reach and to potentially make some money from commissions in the future.
No. 2403512
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why does every edgy chinese artist have this exact art style?
No. 2403785
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>>2403512The same reason why most of Russian furry artist tend to copy from Jenadelle
No. 2403802
>>2403162Banner on one site for pedophilia due to aging up a childhood character and giving her my body type. It just said in bold letters I drew a naked minor (didn't give her huge tits I guess???), and a other time for transphobia due to drawing genderbends of various characters.
I miss my old username so much.
No. 2403843
>>2403412You’re already in the fandom having interactions. How long ?
Just do commissions? Even that fucking high schooler that was posted upthread with gouache is doing commissions.
Anon just milk ut before you get thrown out of the community. Maybe pivot to something else later think about what you want to pivot to now.
I wanna do commissions but I’m new to posting my digital art this year. Zero interaction, I wish I had a community to interact with nona. Just start even if they are shit. I’m seriously considering pivoting to furry shit because I’m desperate for engagement.
No. 2403863
>>2403835And some anons can't be arsed to google "
nonnie" or "ayrt". You have to treat anons like that like a child, you wouldn't do everything for a child so they don't have to do anything for themselves for 18 years would you?
No. 2403890
>>2403863Why would someone google
nonnie in the first place
No. 2404262
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Any character design nonas here have bones to pick with certain character design trends and tropes?
I for one am absolutely sick of female characters exposing their thongs all the time willy nilly. It's not even erotic at this point, it's just annoying.
I also really hate the anime trend of giving characters pigtails when other hairstyles would be way better at conveying their character - it's clear it's a cheap attempt to make those characters cuter to moids.
I also just hate how ugly artists draw their male characters sometimes in comparison to their female characters.
But by far the most atrocious and strange character designs I have seen so far have to be those spherehead fuckers, like with that Your Boyfriend game and Countryhumans. I cannot understand the appeal at all.
On the bright side, if people can find sphereheads attractive, I guess any nona with enough passion and determination can design someone's dream husbando.
No. 2404309
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I'm unable to draw because I suffer from "The-Simpsons-Already-Did-It-Syndrome."
>why draw X, someone already did this before
>why draw in this art style, someone already did this before
>why even bother drawing fanart of this character? they can just google images of this character instead
>art style too similar to that artist, scrap it
>pose too generic, shift+delete
How do I stop?
No. 2404417
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>>2404262I heavily prefer designs that cover the body almost completely, on both males and women, so when a design is good but there's unnecessary skin showing it pisses me off to no end.
ie picrel. why couldn't they just give her fucking pants i will never understand. i don't particularly care about genshin but it's prevalent in all east asian media which i consume a lot so yeah.
No. 2404439
>>2404396>>2404424Nope, it's not about validation…
For me, personally, it's about uniqueness and purpose. I can only do things once I know that it cannot be easily replicated.
I don't want to be yet another voice in the crowd, another water drop in the ocean, and another grain of salt in the salt shaker.
What I fear the most is being unoriginal, which, I think is a good mindset to have?
But, it's paralyzing my brain so hard that I keep deleting sketches that could've been genuinely good as finished pieces.
I sometimes see some kids with MSPaint tier art boldly posting their work, asking for commissions, and even advertising themselves out there without any shame. Meanwhile, I'm here wondering with a bunch of unfinished .psd files on my hard drive: "What is wrong with me?"
It's not only art, I treat every single action I do, both IRL and online, every vowel, every sentence, every opinion, every single action has to be flawless, untouchable, and 100% unique and original.
Once I don't reach that standard, I give up and it's back to square one.
I don't actually care about likes or engagement, I just want to make something that makes me able to say: "I made this, no one can replicate this, and even if they do, I was here first, my heart is at peace."
No. 2404555
>>2404309>>2404439You're minimizing and undermining your own creativity on an unconscious level, or exaggerating others' creativity, maybe both. This is the sort of fear that confirms itself if you dwell too much on it. Can't think of a single artist who doesn't heavily borrow from what others did before them, creation is incremental.
>What I fear the most is being unoriginal, which, I think is a good mindset to have? It's not. Originality is not an inherent quality you possess, it's not a natural resource. You either work hard to articulate a vision or you don't. Think about it, the most "unique" successful artists often have trouble making sense IRL, they can't properly explain their ideas in interviews or flat-out refuse to do so (because they can't and it would ruin the magic). So they turn to artistic mediums to express it. People see this and think they have some kind of magical original essence but in reality, they created their own language painstakingly. Part of creating your language involves borrowing from others. If you see one of your own ideas in the wild you should be proud, it means you had a vision worth sharing, and it should motivate you to execute it in your own way
No. 2404642
>>2404439>What I fear the most is being unoriginal, which, I think is a good mindset to have?Does this next part you wrote seem like a good mindset?
>It's not only art, I treat every single action I do, both IRL and online, every vowel, every sentence, every opinion, every single action has to be flawless, untouchable, and 100% unique and original. If you actually broke down and reflected of what's "original" you would realize that what you're describing would require you to become an actual schizo with mental illness to be so dettached from everything else. That's not how it works. If you don't study what already exists, you won't be able to see the gaps for creative opportunities. Picasso didn't start with abstract concepts, he first learned the fundamentals and realism. You sound like a perfectionist in a way, you're not going to create a lot if you're not going to allow yourself to make something you perceive as flawed. Find some other motivation for creating other than some imaginary impossible standard to achieve, otherwise you're setting yourself for failure.
No. 2405037
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Does anyone here follow a specific regimen when it comes to improving their art? I want to create one of my own, but I guess I would like to know what others do. Do you think you have improved from following a regimen? I draw daily right now and although that helps a bit, I want to get more specific for my goal setting.
No. 2405312
>>2405044Tried and true method. Has never ever failed me. I might not be a god artist, but I absolutely see progress.
>>2405037>Does anyone here follow a specific regimen when it comes to improving their art?idk about anything specific but I do know that dating your old art and returning to draw it after studying the thing helps.
"How to draw a shrimp" tutorial is likely the one I live by, but for everything instead of just shrimps.
No. 2405323
>>2403927>Kek why did you have to draw her naked? That's so stupid.I am clearly retarded. I was doing it because I was finally figuring out human anatomy and was doing a series of nude characters I thought would be nice. It was overall a study using my body as a reference, but was not inherently sexual. Thought I was a part of the body positivity movement, loving yourself etc. I fucked up in that regard, but getting hit with the "you're a pedo" did things to my mind.
I guess I'll post some things using my old account username and see what happens. Fuck it.
No. 2405332
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Does anyone ever open up a folder and find old art of their ocs and they feel like they've abandoned their children? On a whim, I looked at some old art and was hit with so much guilt. I developed a story at the beginning of the pandemic. I had sketches of the locations, outfits, and most of the ocs. Seeing it all hit me like whiplash. I used to be so passionate about this story but one day I guess I just forgot. Now I feel so bad like I've basically abandoned them.
I plan on doing some redraws and I want to work on the story again, but it's so odd that this was absent in my mind.
No. 2405372
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>>2404262Personally, I’ve been growing tired of the “pink x black” thing lesbians and lesbian artists are obsessed with. Can refer to their hair or their aesthetics(like dark alt girl x pink frilly girl). I don’t have any deeper reasoning honestly, I just find it really boring now. Though, I also find the personality dynamics typically associated with this a bit overplayed atp too.
Not that everything in picrel is bad, some of them their only issue is being so loved that everyone wants to recreate them
No. 2405379
>>2405324Please refer to this tutorial
>>2405315Date your art (write the date on every piece) especially in the beginning. Invest in an artbook. There isn't any wrong way to draw but there are optimal ways to execute certain things. I would heavily recommend scaveging Pinterest and Tumblr for art tutorials. Would also help to compile a collage of artists that inspire you so that you know what direction you're going in.
You could maybe post a pic of an artist that heavily inspires you and try asking about where you should go with it? Like if it's digital art, sketching, certain types of paint, etc. We'd probably be more useful if you could give us a basis to start on! (I hope, anyway - some seem pretty aggro towards newfags of any caliber)
No. 2405383
>>2404309Could always be the bigger asshole and redraw what's already been drawn in your own style. Or mix and match - choose someone else's art style and another person's piece to recreate. You don't have to post it, since that will undoubtably draw drama without the proper permissions, but you could use this to your advantage. Try making poses from line of action - draw a randomass line and then try to create a pose from it as the backbone of the character. Or go to stock images and redraw whatever you click on to feature X!
>>2402873I intentionally fucked up my sleep schedule beyond repair. Because I'm up at 9PM to about 7AM, I am never bothered by anyone unless it's an emergency. But they already know I illustrate for a "living".
No. 2405472
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>>2404357Probably elegant, medieval-looking braids or buns or both. Same with Mona. I'm sick of grown ass women being designed in these sorts of ways, I honestly think they'd look way better with more mature hairstyles.
>>2404417>>2405030Nice meeting other nonas who are more on the conservative side when it comes to character design. I personally don't mind if men show off skin. While it often doesn't do anything for me I'm happy for other women who enjoy that sort of thing. But I'm personally so disillusioned and disgusted with overly sexualized women I can't stand most media with those kinds of designs anymore.
>>2405065Yeah, this artist, gayaest, (who made the Palestinian war survivor OC a few threads back) has a habit of drawing faces with creepy blank stares. Apparently she's partially visually impaired? I can't think of any other reason why she does this so often.
>>2405372Woah that's an interesting trope I never considered someone could be tired of. But now that you show me so many examples I can see it far more clearly now.
No. 2405550
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Holy shit i fucking hate rendering. I envy rendermaxxers because i feel no matter your skill if you know how to paint you can make something instantly appealing. I am not even aiming for over-rendered turds i just want a simple rendering style like picrel, but even that is too difficult for me to achieve, fuck.
No. 2405567
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>>2405563Hiro isnt a child nor has the body of a 7yo either. Moid can cope and seethe and make porn of her but that doesnt take away from the fact she's from a sfw game where she gets cute outfits and i am not going to stop liking cute female characters because of moids.
No. 2405582
>>2405576It is clearly, plain as day loli. You even said best girl like the disgusting fat lolicons do about their underage art.
>>2405574Thinking that would slide in a thread artfags peruse is crazy
No. 2405597
>>2405594sakura also ''appeals'' to lolifags that doesnt mean i have to stop liking sakura, you need to stop letting men dictate what you can and cannot like
>>2405593yes because this site is so moralfaggy and hypocritical over the dumbest things
(derailing) No. 2405613
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>>2405607The character looks like that tho, shes always blushing and has sleepy eyes. She's meant to be super shy and mysterious looking.
No. 2405655
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>>2405613>little girl from moid waifu idol gameKek are you a blue archive fan too? Definitely a loli character.
(derailing) No. 2405686
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>>2405495Yeah, I only really feel disinterested in the newer ones. Tbh I felt compelled to post that after I saw someone promo the newest one (girlfriend manual) and majority of comments were people mentioning other couples kek.
Turns out the artist was inspired by bubbline and she mentions the black x pink thing too.
I get disappointed when newer GL has that(in combination with other repetitive tropes) but I’m not really against it I guess. It might as well be a staple a lot of lesbians have loved forever.
No. 2405723
>>2405722I'm sorry you're short nona
I'm short too.
No. 2405733
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>>2405678where's the line drawn for this sort of thinking?
Are the girls from lucky star lolis now? Card captor sakura? Yotsuba? Sailor moon is drawn with an incredibly short miniskirt, is 4'11, and is straight up 14 but no one would call her a loli.
No. 2405753
>>2405748NTA but how is it any different? either be against all depictions of underage female characters or stop moralfagging about it. Its so annoying when anons larp as le based misandrists
terf but make excuses for the shitty fanservice anime they like. Sailor Moon was inmmensely popular with coomer moids to the point there are several doujin PC98 porn games of the anime.
No. 2405764
>>2405748She hits the exact same beats as the girl
>>2405550 posted. Both of them even have tiny blush marks. just admit if you saw Usagi today you would call her a loli.
No. 2405776
>>2405764You're being deliberately obtuse about how
>>2405550 is to highlight a child's body. Scantily clad, child's body, midriff exposed, legs splayed. The character is meant specifically for loli pandering. No one was talking about sailor moon. Keep defending yourself or samefagging or whatever but the topic at hand is that an anon was perfectly comfortable sharing an image meant to depict a sexualized child. If the character weren't clearly meant to look like a little girl, no one would care. People would react the same way if someone posted odd, sexualized, suggestive fanart of Cardcaptors or whatever the fuck you're making excuses about.
(ban evasion)