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No. 2139249

Discuss the happenings, drama, cringe, etc. of Neocities, personal sites, webrings, and other small communities, and how they used to be in the past.

Other possible topics of discussion:
>personal sites vs social media profiles
>creating shrines and fanlistings
>joining webrings and cliques
>how socializing on the internet has changed


Previous threads
>>>/ot/1914925
>>>/ot/1520815
>>>/ot/1320546

Search for personal/non-comercial sites:
https://search.marginalia.nu/
https://wiby.me/
https://www.oldavista.com/
https://anilinks.neocities.org/

HTML/Web help:
https://www.w3schools.com/
https://htmldog.com/
https://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/index.html
https://tinytools.directory/
https://brackets.io/

No. 2139310

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>>2139249
interesting thread nonna!

i occasionally lurk trashchan, specifically the retro board. modern site but its themed after oldweb interfaces and has lots of 90s and 2000s media and culture discussion, ive been using it to get into more 90s stuff as a zoomer. not very active though sadly.

No. 2139639

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"rent lowering gunshots" yeah, because you're really gonna save those dying palestinian children by wishing death on internet users who don't care to involve themselves in a political shitfight

No. 2139771

>>2139639
kekkkk im sure the starving and dying Palestinian children appreciate someone having an 88x31 Palestine flag button on their site and screaming about terfs who just mind their own business

No. 2140244

>>2139639
That retard has done absolutely nothing for palestinian children. How about joining a humanitarian relief organization or trying to smuggle the kids out of the war zone?

No. 2140487

>>2140244
nah, it's easier to virtual signal and bully people into doing the same

No. 2140871

>>2139639
Isn't this against neocities terms of service?

No. 2140895

>>2140871
How so? This kid is retarded, but saying you wish death on someone for not giving donos to muh Palestine isn’t anything other than a Fischer Price babbu alog.

No. 2141055

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No. 2141902

>>2141055
That post covers none of the things here. Cartoonish statements like "hope you perish" are figures of speech and not targetted threats to anyone, let alone minors.

No. 2142106

>>2141902
I agree 100%. I'd also rather read internet brainrot tif spergs than have Neocities turn into another overmoderated nightmare.

No. 2142793

crazy how u guys are the most closeminded and critical people yet have some of the ugliest websites.. tranny sperg shit is almost always better than the shit u guys throw up(Integrate)

No. 2142813

>>2142793
Go back

No. 2142834

>>2142793
Gendie sites reuse the Sadgrl layout and are covered in the same "ACAB BLM Trans Rights Free Palestine" political blinkies, they're not even interesting to laugh at.

No. 2142880

>>2142793
kek, sad but true. but to be fair, i think this is because most mtf troons with sites take interest in programming and therefore make their own scripts with interesting animations. i see some really neat shit that you just can't accomplish with css animation.

No. 2142982

>>2142880
Some of them have decent programming skills and aesthetics (I think its clever to have sites compatible on very old 90s era browsers) but due to being typical autistic moids its style over substance. Their actual content besides that is either porn or hideous selfies and screeds about communism.

No. 2142986

>>2142793
Oh dear how will I ever recover?
I guess I'd be more hurt if I treated my website like social media and not like a place to put all my hobbies and art.

No. 2143045

>>2142793
>>2142880
Still boring. I'd take the "ugly" looking websites with interesting content any day than a bloated site with nothing but shitty js scripts and social media links

No. 2143062

>>2142880
>>2142793
Genuinely interested in examples because most men and mtf troons make sites that look like they came from the same factory. It's always stuff about dicking around with old tech but never detailed enough to make it actually interesting or shit like their uni coding projects. It's stuff that you don't actually look forwards to or want to share with others when you discover it, not that that matters because I support personal sites being fully self-indulgent but it is what it is. On top of that their sites always follow the same minimalist design layout and get abandoned when they get bored with what is essentially their online portfolios.
Scroll through the lainchan webring that's full of techbros and you'll see 90% of the sites fall into that category. The 10% actually has some cool stuff on it and is updated regularly.
And what's the point of cool js scripts and animations? It's basically just bloat. You don't come back to someone's website because their title spins or their page transitions in a cool way when you click on a link, sites aren't meant to function like a 5th grader's first powerpoint presentation and that's a feature of modern web design that many people find cancerous.

All good gendie sites I've seen are actually made by other women, but even then most people being clowned on in this thread don't exactly have good websites and just use them as a carrd and not much else.

No. 2143178

>>2143062
This. Anons above must be retarded if they really think the websites of mtfs are interesting. 99% of them use a pre-made layout, excessive use of js, trackers and are devoid of any content that goes beyond their presentation or the obligatory "1 month on hrt" blogpost. On the other hand, I've seen tifs make some some of the most interesting site designs, even from templates.

No. 2143234

>>2142793
this is an anonymous website, you can't find each and every one of our websites and we can't see your (probably shitty or nonexistant) website either.

sidenote, there's people around you who secretly hate trannies and it has nothing to do with their level of creativity. it also has nothing to do with how open or closeminded they are.
this tourist really got mad we insulted their website and thinks they know everyone who is posting here kek

No. 2143282

>>2143234
Figured it might be one of the mentioned losers like Dreamie or Swirl, but if so aren't they gonna get in trouble with their little group for using "TERF" slurs? Or are they gonna claim reclamation of Tranny for the Trans community or some shit.

No. 2143328

>>2143178
How many mtfs are there on Neocities anyways? I only know the Lexi troon and the Mizuki World troon

No. 2143334

>>2143282
kek i was wondering the same thing. i could definitely see it.
it looks like they were trying to pretend like they weren't a newfag by putting words together that they read on here and thought it might help them pass, of course, not realizing that they are retarded. i wouldn't be surprised if it was some self-hating tranny either, but i'm certain it's someone who was posted in these threads who likely took it too personally. they probably even know their own website is shit

>>2142986
this is exactly what i was thinking when i read it. i've never posted a single status update and everything on my website was made by me. i'm certain that's more than i can say for whatever pre-made tranny dumpsterfire site they're trying to praise. i hate browsing neocities because of the retards who treat it like twitter and how practically every site you come across is made by a genderspecial who's ego is so inflated that it's hard to even look at their site. the projection coming out of that persons post tells me everything i need to know

No. 2143554

>>2143062
I agree, I'd like to see an example of a good site made by a tim.

No. 2143644

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>>2143062
I wonder how the troons would feel knowing their heckin mangaka was problematic
https://x.com/strugglesm7m/status/1823028769046794440(off topic)

No. 2143777

>>2143644
He's a man, he could announce TTD tomorrow and they would still screech "separate the art from the artist!!"

No. 2143811

>>2143644
Isn't this old news? I remember hearing about all this in 2021

No. 2143920

>>2143644
Konaka being a crazy right winger is old news, they only care about creators with offensive views if they're women and "transphobic".

No. 2144077

>>2143644
The Digimon subreddit won’t shut up about how they hate him any time Tamers or any ideas for a Tamers-related sequel is mentioned. It’s ironic because literally prove his point every time.

No. 2144543

32bit cafe is like the special needs class of neocities.

https://32bit.cafe/~xandra/events/codejam5/

No. 2144989

>>2144543
Eh, I personally like this even if I wouldn't join this community. I like seeing info dumps about people's interests. It's kind of a whiplash to see these pages go from having interesting subjects like electronics and programming to typical spergery like Pokemon plushies and yuri though.

No. 2145057

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>>2144543
>MRW I go to the Yurinomicon site expecting some moeshit and see Chiaki and Karen from Kisaragi Tsugumi's Butch × Butch oneshot doujin that is only archived on one site since she nuked her twitter and no one fucking knows it even exists except 100 people in 2017.
I've got to contact her.

Thank you, Nonna, for being a hater and linking this today.

No. 2145228

>>2144543
girl who cares. It’s not really a community for me but it’s literally just a codejam that gives people an excuse to ramble about an interest they like on their own website. You didn’t even link to a milky submission.

No. 2145237

>>2144543
so many of you bitch and moan about no creativity on neocities, then something creative comes out and it's still not enough. come on.

No. 2145277

>>2145057
Fuckkk nona i remember this oneshot, i completely forgot it after i deep dived in the tomboy tag on Dynasty. Thanks so much for bringing this up. (It's really cute aswell! Love the layout)

No. 2145310

>>2144543
I generally try to avoid this group because I can’t deal with Xandra’s massive ego. I love the canned tuna dissertation and the school notebook analytics kek. Ty for sharing.

No. 2146137

>>2144543
only notable thing about all of this is someone who makes being a tif her whole personality sperging about muh palestine in her entry about collecting pokemon plushies kek

No. 2148060

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>>2144543
This freak who wants to have gay sex while married and wants to groom children and force women to have sex with incels for money is in Xandras community. GG retardcafe

https://starbreaker.org/blog/lewd/real-sex-education/index.html

No. 2148072

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>>2148060
His word vomit article in defense of porn is prime millenial retardation. It's just 'muh FANTASY' over and over to avoid talking about the actual human beings involved in porn and impacted by it. Of course he looks like this. Soulless coomer eyes

No. 2148088

>>2148072
chris chan phenotype

No. 2148117

>>2148072
coomerfesto isn't surprising, he looks like he's three sissy hypno porn vids away from trooning.

No. 2148558

>>2148072
>>2148060
Holy shit I thought I didn't have anything to blog about lately and yet here's Pedo McGee just spouting this crap. We need more normies making blogs I swear to god.

No. 2148584

>>2148060
What the fuck? I think better sex ed should be taught to teenagers (keyword), but that doesn't involve literal porn or thinking they should have sex with older teenagers/young adults instead of each other, what the fuck. Ugly people can also just date each other, not hire a prostitute to rape.

No. 2148661

>>2148060
>I think your first time shouldn't be with a teenager who's as nervous and inexperienced as you are, but with somebody a few years older…

No. 2148666

>>2148060
reading this was horrifying

No. 2148706

>>2148060
These are the users that makes online "safe-spaces" as active grooming grounds and their intention are under the sun. Why can they always fly under the radar with no repercussions? It's very telling of whoever the hell is moderating these projects.

No. 2149025

>>2148706

Not a fan of groups like 32bit cafe but be careful with this kind of rhetoric. There’s gendie/system/otherkin schizo shit on sites in the Women of the Internet ring and that was made by a nonna. Lets not pretend like people have time to go through every page on some weirdos site or that we cosign everything people put on their site that are next to ours. If you don’t like them just say that, dont need a spergy reason lol

No. 2149031

>>2148661
I love how a potentially awkward first time is worse than literal grooming and trauma in this pedo's eyes kek

No. 2149118

>>2149025
How can you even compare this moid’s perverted blogs to a random DID sperg?

No. 2149140

>>2149025
>>2149118
Some random woman in that webring having she/they on her about page cannot be compared to a neckbeard writing his dream tutorial on how to expose sexual material to children. Respectfully anon, you're a retard.

No. 2149196

>>2149025
You realize 32bit is a community. Not a list of websites that aren't anything official like women of the internet? He is in their community and talks to them and posts on their Discourse forum. There is no way Xandra isnt aware of this moid.
https://discourse.32bit.cafe/

No. 2149200

>>2149025
AYRT if you're in charge of a project you're responsible of who you feature. If mods can't run a 5 minute background check, usually their (many) bootlickers can and will. Communities like 32bc are full of terminally online people whose favorite pastime is witch hunting and love writing their retarded spergs about it. Yet troon pedos are always the exception, even when their sick EPI fantasies are proudly displayed.
Yes, this applies to all rings, WoTI included, but the common DID genderspecial is annoying at worst.

No. 2149436

speaking of moidsperg anyone seen the incels from the agora road webring?? like this angry coomer whos mad hes not getting laid so we should bring in immigrants to force them to have sex with ugly american moids

https://risingthumb.xyz/Writing/Blog/The_Evils_of_Feminism

No. 2149452

>>2149436
This is a former member of 32bc kek

No. 2149460

>>2149452

i saw he got banned kekkk i mean even grandma got banned from 32bc. wheres she been lately

No. 2149473

>>2149436
>puts his full name, occupation and a general location in his about section
I think I found a picture of him and he's so fucking ugly kek

No. 2149488

>>2149473
Samefag but holy shit, for a software developer this faggot is either completely retarded or retardedly brazen. From his blog you can find
>His full name
>His general location
>Where he went to school
>Where he's employed
>What he looks like
Probably so much more too and yet he kept up his schizo anti-feminist post.

No. 2149491

>>2149473
>>2149488
Send it to his workplace for shits and giggles lmao.

No. 2149493

>>2149491
I would from what I can tell from my internet sleuthing he's unemployed.

No. 2149501

>>2149488
The other one has his home address on his side bar. At least the literal feds can find them. kek

No. 2149503

>>2149501
>The other one has his home address on his side bar. At least the literal feds can find them. kek
No fucking way. You are lying. No person, especially a fucking techie nerd software developer, has that shit of a OPSEC skill.

No. 2149508

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>>2149503
I only speak truth.

No. 2149512

>>2149508
Holy shit.

No. 2149523

>>2149508
>they/them
kek of course

No. 2149534

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His "how to work with me" is hilarious. Any other nonnas who have had important adult jobs know how impossible and difficult he would be to have to collaborate with on projects.
https://matthewgraybosch.com/index.html

No. 2149619

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of course this cretin thinks troons are more "real women" than actual women
https://starbreaker.org/blog/rants/my-manhood-property-way/index.html

No. 2149655

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She fascinates me and not for the reasons she wants. For context, she’s not as masculine or as bulldykey irl as she thinks she is, she’s rather feminine-faced and has a feminine figure. She never passed as male, and despite being a ‘realist’ she is somehow convinced that she did and could if she tried. Her gaze is fixed to her navel with not a hint of self-awareness. She comes off as someone who revels in her diagnoses but despises anyone with the same ones on file. If anything, she should have evolved to that point of insufferable antipsych that denies the existence of all mental illness. Her whole schtick is “ooo I’m so crazy ooo I am as crazy as a man, I’m the only woman that really is a man on the inside ooo look how gay I am, I want to love women as a jock, I’m not an autoandrophile!” What she writes constantly contradicts itself, she goes from hating on men to defending le innocent fags. Sometimes she’s spot on, other times she needs to put the phone down and take a break from KMFDM. I would say she’s Holden Caulfield in the flesh but that would validate her detrans habits. Do not let your kids use tumblr or listen to industrial music. God save NorCal women.
https://nicejewishboy.neocities.org/

No. 2149904

>>2149655
wow the extreme self-hate in the first paragraph especially

No. 2149949

>>2149655
Damn… I could fix her but I don't want to.

No. 2150117

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>>2149460
Grandma's last post was politisperging weeks ago and she stripped down her site of all the Javascript addons and images. I actually like the look of the static site more, but I kinda miss her banter and commentary. I know in past blog posts she's implied (if not stated) being ill so I hope she's well and touching grass

No. 2150124

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>>2149508
Are you sure that's the same guy who wrote the incel screeds? Matthew Graybosch is Starbreaker who is a pedo apologist, but Risingthumb is run by a guy named Leonard. Unless they're the same person on an alt.

No. 2150165

>>2150124
they aren’t the same person. Another anon was mentioning she easily found risingthumbs info. This is separate from Matthew Grayballs doxxing himself. Two tech retards, both alike in digital footprint.

No. 2150398

>>2150124
Matthew greybosch is the one who wrote the incel posts. Click the links and it takes you to the original article

No. 2150564

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>>2150398
This guy wrote the antifeminism blog.
>>2149436

No. 2151277

>>2150398
Greybosch is a pedo apologist and coomer, but like >>2150564 said, it's a different man.

No. 2151576

petty guilty pleasure that I see has somehow survived my 2016 tumblr roleplay blog phase: viewing source on the page of someone who has right click and ctrl+u disabled only to see their code riddled with pasted-in widgets full of comments telling them wtf padding is

No. 2154493

>>2143328

this is unrelated to the overall topic but i feel like i should correct misinformation. mizuki isn't mtf. she's one of those girls who tried on he/they pronouns for a while but then distanced herself from that persona in order to reinvent herself as a transfem

she was in a server i was in a couple years back and infrequently used voice chat, so this is how i'm aware of it. this was before she started lying about her race and the fact she's married with children as well (both the wife and children, who's ages she can't keep straight, don't exist).

anyway if i had a nickel for every time a cis girl pretended to be a two-spirit plural otherkin transfem for perceived social credit, i'd have two nickels. weird it happened twice

No. 2154517

>>2154493
Kinda based of her even if she's a racefaker and lies about other things. I can't say I blame women for lying about being mtf nowadays.

No. 2154898

>>2154493
wait really, are the pics she uses on her site fake then?? i figured she was at least lying about being japanese, the gratuitous use of "私/watashi" in her homepage bio is a dead giveaway to anyone who has spent time around native speakers or has studied the language for more than 1-2 years kek

No. 2155048

>>2154493
I had a feeling she was just a really ugly woman because the interest in dolls and fashion seemed too female. I was in a server with it and she sperged about fashion a lot. The knowledge of taobao brands and shopping would be too much of a hard larp for a moid imo.

No. 2155056

>>2154493
If that's true then it's more pathetic than sad. Why would any woman larp as an ugly, unkempt beast that sees you as a fetish? I can understand larping as a man, people tend to take you more seriously. But as a troon? What's the benefit? That's so retarded, along with the racefaking. Also, pretending to have multiple partners in a "24/7 Dom/Sub Kink relationship" and kids is fucking degenerate, but at least it's fake, I guess.

No. 2155165

>>2154898
i don't know about the pictures of her on her site, they might be real. but yeah, the ages for the kids would change. first they were 5-year old twins but then the next time she'd talk about them within the year, one of them would be 7 and the other 6. she also sent someone a picture of the wife and upon reverse-image searching it would be one of the first results for "alt black woman". conveniently wifey had no social media either

again no one has any obligation to believe this but i knew her when she went by vesper and none of these factors were in the picture

No. 2155187

>>2154493
so she's a racefaker (japanese and taino), a DID larper with several other claimed mental illnesses, a mtf larper, and has a completely made-up family? that's just really sad

No. 2155351

Why do they always pick the most random race combos to larp. It's always like those really ugly deformed gendie drawings where the character is half inuit and half aboriginal Australian. Dreamie did it too, she claimed to be half Jewish and half native american. Like it's not impossible but the random extremely uncommon race combo + mtf troon who's into hyperfeminine hobbies + mental illnesses + extremely online is just so far from being probable in reality.(learn2reply)

No. 2155380

i've talked to her before and she's always made me uncomfortable. it was obvious to me she was lying about every aspect of herself. in doko's server, she talked about racism she'd experience as a japanese person despite looking like an ordinary white woman. it feels good to confirm my suspicions.(learn2reply)

No. 2155532

>>2154493
so if she’s a race faker what race is she really? I’m assuming white kek

No. 2155576

>>2155351
if spending time on tumblr has taught me anything, people racefake as these outlandish combos to make themselves seem more special

No. 2155591

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What is this random DNI that was posted on the NC starter pack about? I don't know which site it came from but like it seems like questioning mizuki's troondom has been a topic of discussion
>>>/ot/1915198

No. 2155596

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>>2155591
that's referring to the mizuki from project sekai (picrel). the writers listed her gender as unknown so everyone instantly started troonfoiling about her being a mtf and had a shitfit when the game they/themmed her in the english release

No. 2155603

>>2155596
>Her
Mizuki is biologically male

No. 2155682

>>2155603
didn’t know that, I only hear about this game through teenagers on the internet complaining

No. 2155728

>>2155351
You know how teenagers in 2008 would make roleplay OCs with descriptions like "hybrid of a wolf, dragon, and angel"? It's the real life race version of that. It makes them feel exotic to claim to be mixed black, Jewish, native American, and Korean at the same time.

No. 2155878

>>2154493
mizuki is troon until proven otherwise.

No. 2155897

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>>2155576
even more than dreamie

No. 2156018

>>2155897
Why do these retards always just claim "intersex" like its not even the real word for these disorders and they never say which one they have. I guess it could be private info but if they're already willing to claim to be intersex, that excuse doesn't really work. They can never say which developmental disorder they actually have.

No. 2156063

>>2155897
>as someone with darker skin
>pale-skinned
KEK how has nobody called her out yet

No. 2156155

>>2155897
23 years old and being this retarded…kek.
>shi/hir
How is that any different from the standard she/her? Does she have a mental breakdown and kill herself if you type 'e' instead of 'i'?
>two boyfriends lain and mihael
More like two girlfriends named Laura and Michelle kek
>two kids
Why do the most mentally ill ones always have kids? Someone save these kids

No. 2156165

>>2156018
If they're willing to list their traumas and other mental illnesses, then naming which intersex condition they have wouldn't be any more revealing because most of them are health conditions too. If she/he is larping as an "intersex transfem" you could say Klinefelter or de la Chapelle syndrome for example. But they never do. I remember on Tumblr there was a woman who claimed to be an Afro-Latina Jewish intersex transwoman (actually white, pedictably) that was born with both genitals, lmao

No. 2156197

>>2156155
To me "shi" reads like "shy", lmao.

No. 2156278

>>2156197
I always thought in addition to being a snowflake version of she/her, shi/hir sounded closer to "see/hear". I never hear people in real life use these so that's how I figured it's different.

No. 2156559

>>2156165
For people so obsessed with gender, I'm surprised they don't study DSDs to make the larp more convincing and believable. Nobody on earth with these disorders was ever born with two sets of fully formed, fully functional genitals that produce both gametes. Like straight out of their pornsick futa fetish mental illness.

No. 2156591

>>2156559
Just saying "intersex" also is a way to dodge people asking for more details, because their response is always "OMG it's none of your business, pervert!" But they shared it in the first place as one of their oppression statuses.

No. 2156910

>>2156165
since its trendy to be intersex lately some people have stretched the definition to include women with pcos. just as likely mizuki doesnt have that either though.

No. 2158084

Is hosting a website on FC2 any good? I don't like the fact that no matter what I do, my site activity is viewable on Neocities. I want to remain mostly private.

No. 2158165

Did Kyle get rid of updates on the feed page? All I'm seeing now is other peoples comments

No. 2158186

>>2158165
He pushed an update that's supposed to fix the news feed, but it looks like he accidentally broke it. I doubt he intended to get rid of site updates.

No. 2158207

>>2158084
Yes it's pretty good. Only way to discover a website there is to look for links to it. Same 1GB storage limit and file type restrictions, but each file you upload needs to be less than 5MB.

No. 2159386

Welcome back oldweb nonas

No. 2159469

hampter alive.

No. 2159600

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>>2139639
same retard from before is back at it again kek, almost wish she would post it so we can all have a good giggle

No. 2159646

Wah, I missed you all….
Have any of you done any work on your sites/similar while LC was down? I was as unproductive as ever, but I did manage to make a super simple game and I finally got some layout ideas for some old pages I have been wanting to remodel.

>>2159600
>lolcow farms
I wonder if these people even know what the old web is about, it seems they just want social media but with customization.
The indie web isn't plataforming biggots any more than any other site, said biggots are just random people who bought some hosting to put their shit on the web. What are they even aiming to do with the cancelations, force them to stop paying? Freezing their bank account? kek
They wouldn't last a day on the old days, you're bound to find shitty people or sites whose views you disagree from time to time, as long as it's within legality, anyone can write whatever they want on their site. That's what the "Go back" button is for, I can't imagine wasting my time chasing down thousand of websites to cancel them.

No. 2159705

>>2159469
hampter alive!

>>2159600
>platforming
>lolcow'd
these people are utterly clueless. i don't even know what they think the old web was. they always give themselves away as soon as they post a status

No. 2159707

File: 1726052620497.png (12.54 KB, 875x143, doxxed.PNG)

>>2159600
>chances are i'm gonna get lolcow'd
everyone online has such a big persecution complex these days. nobody cares about the neocities blog posts of a barely literate child. they think everything is about them and that everyone wants to dox or stalk them when literally nobody gives anywhere near enough of a fuck to even read their about page
>>2159646
i started working on a page for displaying some of my work on my site while lc was down, i'm excited to finish it

No. 2159716

>>2159707
She has no idea how this site even works, we don't dox or stalk. We laugh and point out her retardation and make fun of the generic slop on her site and get bored and move on

No. 2159720

>>2159707
>doxxed
As if she's that important to anyone. KEK

No. 2159725

>>2159707
whining about being harassed while talking about how you wish others would perish is so funny. someone needs to give this tard a month's worth of internet outage asap so she can learn what the real world is like

No. 2159731

>>2159707
She needs to go back to Tumblr and stay there

No. 2159847

>>2159600
Kek. Too late. Old web nonnies are already pointing and laughing.


I did fuck all with my site. I wanna up my art game before I work on the site (it's mostly for art), but browsing he neocities pages was kinda entertaining while lc was gone.

No. 2159917

File: 1726063112620.png (308.06 KB, 768x774, 87954.png)

Hmm woah I wonder why no one wants to buy from you… (And all the notes are just Soap going "Still none :\"). I don't think anyone outside 14 years olds are into that kind of drawings.
Went thru his NC profile and it's mostly him complaining, what a sad life he must have. No wonder he bases his worth on whatever others think of him and so spents his days trying to seem morally superior than others to look good.

No. 2159958

>>2159917
>him
Anon, this is a tif.

No. 2159994

>>2159958
My bad, didn't looked at her website and her art is so unappealing I just assumed it was some shut-in guy.

No. 2160021

>>2159600
Just post it, you coward. If you think you have something important to say about bigotry and platforming, then do it.

No. 2160035

>>2159600
All she's going to do is list the same names we've all seen 100 times that don't hide that they're radfem. Ironic that she's scared of harassment and getting doxxed yet is ok with it happening to women minding their own business because they don't agree with the gender cult hmmm

No. 2160043

>>2160035
It's always about quote-unquote "cryptoterfs" and not beliefs that are an actual danger to people like the amount of neo-nazis crawling all over 4chan and mastodon.

>>2159917
I've seen people do commissions in favor of donations, and it's successful because their art is actually good. This is just cartoon furry fetish art only repressed gendies like.

No. 2160046

>>2159600
>>2160035
It's just going to be a repeat of fatass strawberry gashes' retarded bigot article. It will list all the same le evil terf names that circulate around neocities discords. I predict that like with the release of sg's article, women that aren't even radfem will get harassed because guilt by association or because they don't have 88x31 tranny buttons all over their websites.

No. 2160067

>>2160046
Can you link to that? All I know was the article posted on Livejournal or some other site about how WOTI is made for terfs and the owner is hiding that. I don't remember a list of users. Also it's ironic that s-g is virtue signaling about terfs when I first thought she was a crypto for linking to cabbagesorter's site, kek

No. 2160075

>>2160067
Ntayrt but wasn't it actually yourdevilfriend or whatever that wrote out a list with "proof" of terfism but ended up deleting it.

No. 2160078

>>2160046
Which article?

No. 2160139

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No. 2160173

>>2160139
Okay, I thought by sg you meant sadgirl wrote it. This is a good follow list though kek

No. 2160178

>>2160139
"trans rights are constantly under attack" but yet you'll get socially exiled and crucified for not blindly believing their ideology. Totally not a cult.

No. 2160180

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No. 2160201

>>2160178
Honestly you can read the diatribes of troons and swap out any mention of "trans people/women/men" with scientology and the posts sound exactly the same kek

No. 2160250

>>2159707
I have never seen terfs or other unsavory types on neocities start a harassment campaign. The only time I ever see crazy drama, "doxxing", or stalking is when it's troon on troon crime. Or tifs trying to harass random women. These tifs are truly retarded.

No. 2160626

>>2160139
i kinda wish she kept this up and kept adding to it, i need more based women to follow

No. 2160709

>>2160626
Right, I'm disappointed there's only 4 people. Some "list" this is. Try harder next time, dung beetle

No. 2161706

File: 1726154873563.png (44.12 KB, 932x292, BbIc2rv.png)

Neocities tifs might be the most stereotypically feminine women I have ever come across. It's so funny kek! How am I supposed to take your man larping seriously when you're into pink, picrews, and collecting various cutesy blinkies.

No. 2161763

>>2161706
They act more like sterotypical women than "cis" women do…

No. 2161799

>>2161763
>>2161706
Makes sense. Once they delue themselves into thinking they aren't women anymore, their brains go all out into indulging in all the cutesy things they refused to let themselves enjoy because ~I'm not like the other girls~. They don't perceive themselves as girls enjoying stereotypical girly things anymore, but as guys breaking gender/society's norms by liking cute stuff.
Internalized misogyny, which includes the refutal of stupid small things like enjoying baby animals just because they're associated with women, is one of the main causes of why girls turn into tifs.
So their websites pretty much fall into two categories:
1) Cutesy shit due to everything I mentioned above
2) Bad edgy, crude and unappealing design/art on an attempt to get taken as a man seriously

No. 2161817

>>2159600
Aww she turned off her neocities profile. I wonder if someone showed her the thread.

No. 2161823

File: 1726160467719.jpg (459.03 KB, 984x824, Soapfriendo.jpg)

>>2161817
I think someone did. Big talk considering she probably turned her profile off out of fear.

No. 2161855

>>2161823
she wants to feel oppressed and vilified for her "noble cause"/identity so bad kek.

No. 2161870

>>2161823
I’d rather be a bitch than larp as a moid. Judging by her artwork she’s probably fat with poor hygiene too kek

No. 2162139

>>2161823
"Troon" is barely a taboo slur lmao, it was coined by the trannies on Something Awful forums. That's your culture.

No. 2162483

>>2162139
My friend admitted to coining it as a MtF and says he hates when people use it because of it.

No. 2162497

>>2162483
why should we believe you or your ex-troon friend?

No. 2162594

>>2162483
yeah, and my dad works at neocities and gave a sub for free. proof or gtfo retard

No. 2162623

>>2161817
i know i won't be missing her brainrotted status posts, but i'm sure she'll be back up in less than 2 months because people like that just can't hold themselves back to post their retarded streams of consciousness because they are the exact type of people who thrive on social media using it as their personal dumping grounds. people like this don't realize they would have been bullied off of the internet back in the day

>>2161823
>Big talk considering she probably turned her profile off out of fear
kek it's funny because she acts so aggro all the time, but can't take any heat at all. what a narc
>call me taboo slurs all u bitches want
>bitches
thank you for the permission. i will continue. funny how you exclude yourself from criticism even though you'll happily use "slurs" and be aggressive towards groups of people who don't align with your tumblr ideologies. keep seething, troon! god it's so funny, people who act aggressive like this always have the thinnest skin ever

No. 2162678

>>2162623
Keeeekkkk it didn't even take 2 months, her profile is back up and all her aggro status updates have been deleted

No. 2162720

>>2162678
I guess she checks this thread regularly, she deleted her posts already.
I don't know what is funnier, her not lasting even 2 days with her profile off or her visiting a site full of the people she considers need to be exterminated. Be ware soapfriendo, maybe our mean ideologies will rub off on you since we are so manipulative according to you…!

No. 2162722

File: 1726229143591.png (37.15 KB, 1030x344, 429386794305.png)

>>2162720
yeah, something like that. she's acting like us looking at her publicly available posts on social media platforms is stalking kek

No. 2162723

File: 1726229417415.png (Spoiler Image,1.06 MB, 1349x777, 1.png)

Just saw she linked her MFC page on her Neocities profile & of course she takes fetishy pics of her $5 figures
https://myfigurecollection.net/profile/soapscugthing/pictures/

No. 2162748

File: 1726232620078.jpg (187.83 KB, 720x1532, 20224.jpg)

>>2162722
We aren't even digging up old shit, we are simply reading her front page and stuff she wrote less than a week ago for a quick laugh.
But their ego is too big and think anything that isn't kissing their ass is a hate campaign against them & a doxx attempt kek. Anyways, her text tag seems a goldmine, totally normal things a well-adjusted person says.

No. 2162751

>>2162748
Kek you have to be logged in to view her tumblr now too, it wasn't like that before.

No. 2162753

>>2162751
Don't worry, she will unlock it in a few hours at this rate

No. 2162754

>>2162748
Why do I get the feeling that these "fundraisers" in question aren't linked to actual organizations, but those sketchy Anon asks on Tumblr that link to some pay site.

No. 2162755

>>2162754
So fed up of those. I’ve been reporting them all as spam.

No. 2162806

>>2162748
she acts exactly like a 2011 tumblr addicted sjw.
>>2162753
kek anon. finally this thread gets some lulz, i've missed having a smallweb cow acting up.

No. 2162827

>>2162678
fucking KEK. 2 months really was generous, that's amazing. these people can't go 2 seconds without posting their garbage thoughts online. all of this she could keep to herself and then she wouldn't be posted here. it's hilarious. keep seething, pathetic tranny! your identity isn't real and you're using it as a shield for how empty you really are inside

>>2162722
her definition of stalked is amazing. just replace the word stalked with "talked about" and then it would be true. she shouldn't flatter herself that much, no one gives a damn. you post things online for people to see, they will read it and perhaps even gossip about it. no one showing up to your goddamn house

>>2162748
>regularly talking about actually murdering people and wishing death on people
it's amazing when people who think hating trannies is the worst crime but fantasizing about murder is totally fine and acceptable as long as it's against someone you ideologically disagree with. hmmm….

No. 2162847

>>2162497
>>2162594
Anon is probably full of shit but "troon" did originate from Trans + Goon, which Somethingawful users called themselves. They also ruined the forums, but that's besides the point.

No. 2163058

>>2162720
she posted on her nc feed and deleted? what did she say? cus the tumblr posts are still up but there is nothing on her feed.

No. 2163096

>>2163058
Not sure if she posted something while locked but we were referring to the stuff she has written before, just look a bit up to find the screenshots

No. 2163376

File: 1726269734484.png (1.29 MB, 1604x1402, justasmalltowngirllivinginatra…)

>>2162827
She's a retarded kid living in a suburb of portland who's only hobby is gender. (imagine living so close to your mecca but you cant even get there lmaoooo.) This is probably the most exciting thing thats ever happened to her.

archived melonland posts:
pg1 https://archive.is/S1hfx
pg2 https://archive.is/go2mM
pg3 https://archive.is/FR7vp
pg4 https://archive.is/I8Ak7

No. 2163379

>>2161823
Massive as in "weighs more than a beached whale"?

No. 2163383

>>2160139
>we strongly advise against confronting them
That's the cult mindset speaking. They don't want their fellow cult members being proven wrong in arguments with real women, and then realizing they're not men born as women. That kind of double-think is fucked up and I wish it would be called out more often.

No. 2163413

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>>2163376
thanks for the archive nona. i wonder what her parents would think of her fantasies about killing and eating people?

No. 2163452

>>2163376
thanks for the archive nona, and nice find. you're right. this probably is exciting for her. she seems incredibly self-centered. i like how in your screenshot the first pic's answer is basically just
>me me me me me me me me me
and then
>i'm nothing but a secluded internet addict
no kidding i never would have guessed kek…
imagine having art that looks like this >>2159917 and thinking you could be a "pretty decent local artist" anywhere, let alone fucking portland kek.
>imagine living so close to your mecca but you cant even get there lmaoooo
fucking kekkkk. what a pathetic tranny. no wonder why she acts so aggressive on her feed. i was going to make a comment upthread about how she probably never leaves her house and i love that she self-reported it for me

No. 2163509

>>2163376
Kekkk she's just as pathetic as I thought she would be. If she didnt sperg all day on the neocities feed like a loser no one would've even looked into her. Guess you got what you were looking for: attention. Shoulda kept your dumb thoughts on Twitter, enjoy getting "lolcow'd"

No. 2163558

>>2163376
If this tif is so close to portland there is no excuse not to attend an art class. I want some fundie professor to slap sense into her. Unless this is when she reveals she is turbo disabled as well as a retarded neet.

No. 2163655

>>2163452
She acts aggressive on her feed but when people outside her echochamber see what she's saying, she cowers and hides it.

No. 2163779

>>2163376
>lives near portland, the best place to be a first world troon with fake problems in
>doesn't even bother to go there and socialize
Impressive

No. 2163805

>>2163779
she could go to portland to join the antifa troon militias that protest for gaza. they would probably even pick her up from her parents house and she can meet her troon polycule for palestine instead of sperging at women from her bedroom

No. 2163808

File: 1726288356537.gif (2.08 KB, 150x20, troonsforpalestine.gif)

>>2163805
the dodge caravan awaits

No. 2163813

Theres been a surprising amount of Oregon talk today. Wonder why that is

No. 2163814

>>2163376
Take the fucking bus, you dumbass!

No. 2163819

>>2163805
Being an online warrior is just too easy kek.

No. 2163835

>>2163376
nitpick but i hate the link in her signature. she really is terrible at art. all i see is a poorly drawn purple keyboard (if that's what that is?) and if her username wasn't right there i would have absolutely no clue what that shitty green bubble text says. her having a goal to be a "decent local artist" is too delusional. art was never your calling and your identity is based around what's trendy in your social media circles, imagine having such a fragile identity

No. 2164059

>>2163376
>i don't really see myself moving out for the next couple years
kekkk i wonder why? sounds like homegirl wants to play on the computer all day while mooching off of her family. there's no way she will become self-sufficient as a "decent local artist" especially in somewhere as expensive as portland. mom and dad need to kick her ass out or force her to get a real job

No. 2164113

>>2164059
I don't think still living with family is a moral failing when moving out is harder, but the fact she's admitting to being an internet addicted NEET is pathetic. Getting a part time job would do most of these TIFs a lot of good. But that would be muh capitalism if they did.

No. 2164525

>>2162722
kek she deleted this off of her tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com/soapfriendotake2/tagged/txt(this is an imageboard)

No. 2164666

File: 1726352707191.png (1.63 MB, 1476x736, cantlogoffwontlogoff.png)

>>2164059
>>2164113
if she actually cared about muh palestine she'd get a job and donate her entire check to tumblr fundraisers.

No. 2164681

Anyone doesn't know how to organize a site? I mean, I know there is not a correct answer but I don't know where put certain things. And im talking about very silly little things like "songs i'm currently obssessed".
And creating content, omg, i write down so many ideas but at the same time i feel overwhelmed.
For example, I have a DIY page where I'm supposed to upload my projects… Well, I have three finished. I only have to edit the photos, put into an html clone of my generic pages, and write a little about it. But im slacking off.

No. 2164803

>>2164666
Palestine isn't even the only humanitarian crisis going on right now, these same people dropped Ukraine even though they're still being invaded by Russia.

No. 2164938

>>2164666
kek has she ever been in a male's bedroom? so tryhard yet clockable, untidy moids don't have as this many bullshit in their rooms and their scatter is divided in specific areas than everywhere, that's a thing i've only seen in women

No. 2164997

File: 1726373985304.png (79.49 KB, 1054x406, retard.png)

oh my god who cares, people make websites for themselves and not dumbass ipad kids

No. 2165000

>>2164997
Kek these types of people can suck my ass. Oldweb larpers need to gtfo, how are you going to try and dictate how people design their own personal space? I hate mobile and accessibility spergs

No. 2165016

File: 1726375275012.png (284 KB, 848x506, 2pxfontfuckyeah.png)

>>2164997
love that she gave us the formula to repel genderblobs. squint, seize, best viewed on windows 98

No. 2165052

>>2164681
i organise my site based on how regularly those pages are updated. for example, shrines are kind of "one and done," whereas journals are expected to update indefinitely. a shrine to my all-time favourite songs will be in a different section than a diary about "songs i'm currently obsessed with." however, they share the same topic (music), so i'd definitely want to link them to each other, even without putting them in the same folder.
as for creating and publishing content, it sounds like you just need to build your time management skills. there are tons of resources to find about that online if only you'll look. personally, i focus on what's most important to me (usually just what's most fun, kek) and do that first. maybe your DIY page just isn't enough fun right now. don't beat yourself up about it, just work on something else and keep enjoying your hobby site. everything gets easier with time and practice, from file organisation to finding inner peace. if i can do it, so can you.
>>2165016
>squint, seize, best viewed on windows 98
anonita, my sides…

No. 2165078

>>2164997
If someone makes a page of resources, tutorial etc I can get why others get angry at it not being user-friendly but even then that's the webmaster's loss, if they prefer style over visits that's on them. I like to make my site readable and lately I have been trying to make my pages more mobile friendly but that's just because I like going back to read my own site and because I use mobile more at night. I even follow someone whose site has light pink 6px font because on her words, that's more comfortable to her eyes and more readable, so each person has a different opinion on what's accessible.
Said girl also has "Simply use your browser's zoom-in feature if the text is too small" in her about, queen.

>>2164681
I honestly just stoped caring. I simply write the content in an almost plain-text HTML page (I do give the page a background and put the text inside a centered div so it's more readable, but that's all) and when I'm done I link the page on a bullet list at my front page. I changed my organisation to "a site map is the only thing" and its working well, I separate it on general ideas rather than being an interrupted list so it's more readable but the good thing about websites is that you can do whatever you want.
Want to move the page after publishing? You can do it. You come up with a more complex layout for it after awhile? Simply update. Nothing is set in stone, I'm doing better since I stopped eating my head on layouts and organisation.

No. 2165123

>>2164997
>oh my god who cares, people make websites for themselves and not dumbass ipad kids
exactly! it's my PERSONAL site, therefore it's mainly made for me. i'm not gonna sweat over every single thing because someone might be upset or disgruntled at how i make my site. it's for me, they can click off and look at other people's sites, god damn

>>2165000
>I hate mobile and accessibility spergs
me too, it's fucking obnoxious. i can design my site however the fuck i want. "smart"phones weren't even a thing for a majority of the time on the oldweb. these people are fucking annoying virtue-signaling gatekeeping assholes who think we have to cater our pages to be digestible for everyone. no one gave a shit about this in 2005, but now the moral police have to show up and shove this in your face every other week.

No. 2165127

>>2164997
make yourself mobile and go outside

No. 2165223

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No. 2165419

>>2164997
This is retarded because 90% of Neocities and the free web identify as anti-capitalist anti-corporate anti-modern internet spergs. Making your website readable on a phone or iPad is directly pandering to that.

No. 2165440

>>2165419
The statistics are also uncertain, yes 60% of internet users browse it on their phones, but how much of that 60% is exclusively phone-only?
Almost everyone has a cheap PC or laptop in their houses, they're practically mandatory for work. If a page someone is interested in doesn't work in mobile they will check it another day on their PC and viceversa.

>>2164666
I was the one who picked the threadpic this time around and for some reason it makes me happy to be a little part on a cow pic kek Thanks for the edit nona

No. 2165460

>>2165440
Not everyone who primarily uses a phone is physically disabled either. Most people own phones because they're cheaper than a PC but it's not an ableism or hating poor people to make your entire website viewable on mobile.

No. 2165512

>>2165440
Those are global statistics too where a majority of the world is using phones and most phone activity is on apps anyway. The data isn't really applicable to neocities since someone in a village in Myanmar has no idea about the existence of neocities. I bet Kyle's statistics show like 85%+ computer use

No. 2166636

is neocities down for anyone else?

No. 2166645

>>2166636
it's down for everyone

No. 2169314

File: 1726649340749.png (219.68 KB, 958x854, 78989978.png)

>>2162751
Good news nona, her blog is back up visible for everyone. Took her 5 days, a new record on suppressing her need of attention, congrats! (Maybe it took her less tho, I haven't checked her up in a few days).
Plus a new post, lovely how she isn't even hidding on moraily anymore and just said in the open it's because she loves to harass others.

No. 2169330

File: 1726650645763.jpg (43.41 KB, 640x408, 1667061038436.jpg)

>>2169314
>a new record on suppressing her need of attention, congrats!
KEK
it really is always the most insufferable types of people who like to use their neat little palestine and tranny labels as a sheild. she pretends like she's a nice person on neocities and in her melonland posts but she's just some edgy tard using virtue signaling to divert from the fact that she's just vile and pathetic. like this shit reads as some edgy 14 year old's diary who looks up to serial killers and wants to be one some day. it reads like she's made up a person in her head in an attempt to intimidate others. here's the attention you ordered "soapfriendo"! such a soft and weak-willed tranny. trying to be two opposing things at once. i guess sitting in her room endlessly scrolling tumblr and neocities every day was getting boring
>harassment is beautiful to me
sure thing, i'll believe it when i see it

No. 2169432

>>2169314
>harassment is beautiful to me
K but according to her logic she was getting stalked and harassed by lc and turned off her profile and locked her tumblr for a bit. So is harassment beautiful or not? Or is it only valid when she spergs about doing it?

No. 2169440

>>2169314
"Harassment is beautiful~" (when it's not me!) -Soap 2024

No. 2169530

>>2169330
Most self-identified leftists are like this. "How can I be a bad person if I support the right causes AND am a minority?" is their logic. If she loves harassment now, then she shouldn't complain about anonymous forums like this laughing at her public posts from afar.

No. 2169560

>>2169314
i guess we have formal permission to harass this retard now?
side note, crazy how bad her art is. it's shockingly bad. unable to express how someone could fail so bad at every single facet of what should make a drawing good. she's using bright colors as a sheild for how fucking bad this shit looks.

>>2169530
>"How can I be a bad person if I support the right causes AND am a minority?" is their logic.
kek it's truly sad. they really think that spouting their beliefs online makes them martyrs who are invincible to criticism. many such cases
>If she loves harassment now, then she shouldn't complain about anonymous forums like this laughing at her public posts from afar.
yeah, guess she's enjoying the attention after all. really gotta marvel at the type of people who think any type of attention, bad or good, is worth receiving. what a loser

No. 2169643

>>2169314
funny she says this when we all know how emotionally fragile she is.

>>2169560
>crazy how bad her art is. it's shockingly bad.
right i cant even tell what the fuck i'm supposed to be looking at every time i see it. colourful blobs and lines.

No. 2169932

File: 1726696298167.png (47.06 KB, 1070x276, 932784.png)

macaque being jobless suddenly makes so much of her sperging make sense KEK

No. 2170008

>>2169932
She's a college student, which isn't that bad as far as Neocities gendies go. No idea why she'd air this out though.

No. 2170557

>>2169314
She disabled her neocities profile and deleted a ton of tumblr posts again. No balls on this one.

No. 2170609

>>2170557
KEK this shits so funny. she wants to pretend like she's so tough but is so obviously thinned-skinned. wonder how many days it will be this time

No. 2170655

>>2170557
I saved her lastest txt page when I saw she opened her Tumblr again, but I get a blank page after it loads her blog's background. I don't know if it didn't save correctly or if it's my internet being shitty. At least we still got the screenshots though.
I wonder how long will it take her to open it again, will she reach a full week?
https://web.archive.org/web/20240918085511/https://soapfriendotake2.tumblr.com/tagged/txt

No. 2170660

>>2170655
the link works for me, nice job archiving it nona, good thinking.
>will she reach a full week?
kek i have to wonder the same thing, we'll see

No. 2171181

File: 1726779055472.jpeg (64.79 KB, 750x228, IMG_5142.jpeg)

>>2170655
The link works for me, too. This post is my favorite because it's true. Nothing she does— whether it's drawing fat ugly blobs, writing whiney status updates, or spreading fundraiser scams— is "worth it." Literally ngmi. The best time to drop the homicidal gendie larp was 10 years ago. The second best time is today.

No. 2171855

>>2171181
completely agreed with your entire post nona. you're right. also it's good to see that she acknowledges her art is fucking terrible, because holy shit, it's absolutely atrocious to look at.

No. 2172037

File: 1726838704532.jpg (327.65 KB, 540x488, bafkreid5vwmygeihtnyyatxssirrc…)

Not milk, I just found funny how someone send non-anon hate to her on the anon hate website, truly a brave soul

No. 2172115

>>2172037
Gendies act constantly unpleasant like this and wonder why people are "transphobic" to them…

No. 2172318

>>2172037
Kek she has had anon disabled since wayyy before she was ever mentioned on lolcow. She's been terrified since day one

No. 2172338

>>2169314
What is this a picture of? I've been looking at it for the past couple days and can't tell

No. 2172837

>>2172338
I think she's trying to go for a lowbrow/superflat comic book style, but I honestly can't tell either. Most of her art look like incoherent blobs, there's no form to it.

No. 2173889

>>2171181
In the time it took her to write and post this she could've found hundreds of free art resources to improve. Just another example that she has zero motivation to improve a situation and would rather whine about it.

No. 2179352

File: 1727290503965.png (2.29 MB, 2325x1584, mizuki.png)

Everything about Mizuki is a total lie, she lives in a very rural town in the middle of nowhere in Iowa in her parents attic. attached is the zillow listing of the attic and her real facebook page where she had a muslim larp era. She isnt trans or biracial and the whole "indigenous person growing up in japan" thing is a total lie. She is white and her parents run a church in their small town and her dad is the pastor. She doesn't have a wife or kids or a polycule like she claims, it seems she just takes weird diaper pics from the attic while her parents are at sunday service.

No. 2179354

File: 1727290582819.png (Spoiler Image,15.51 MB, 3470x3480, zooker.png)

Mizuki's fetlife. She isn't trans but pretends to be. She claims to have been on puberty blockers and HRT and had bottom surgery but this is just a dumpy woman.(spoiler all nsfw )

No. 2179355

File: 1727290651923.png (1.68 MB, 2938x2443, fake polycule.png)

Her fake polycule of fake accounts that she roleplays back and forth with. notice how none of them have a real picture, its all just anime pfps and stock images.

No. 2179357

File: 1727290686904.png (753.41 KB, 2678x2442, part1.png)

all lies

No. 2179358

File: 1727290710939.png (312.92 KB, 2678x1344, part2.png)

lies part 2

No. 2179361

File: 1727291125550.png (2.01 MB, 4176x2560, fake polycule.png)

>>2179355
wrong pic. ignore the last four accounts, here is mizuki's "quad".

No. 2179367

File: 1727291287191.png (424.56 KB, 894x3054, fetish.png)

Her about page and fetishes

No. 2179371

File: 1727291477484.png (572.78 KB, 912x3147, owner.png)

She writes fanfiction about her fantasy life on a website for bdsm hookups. Here is her origin story with the wife who doesnt exist

No. 2179372

File: 1727291632013.png (893.93 KB, 897x4779, roles.png)

More about the totally real sex she is having with her not made up partners

No. 2179374

File: 1727291779816.png (433.01 KB, 952x2730, witch.png)

being a "death witch" is sexual for her too apparently
>I have, in many senses, been surrounded by death my whole life. Being indigenous unfortunately means that I have been surrounded by the disappearances, suicides, and losses to terminal illness of relatives since I was a child.
all this written by a basic white girl who has never left corntown, iowa

No. 2179377

File: 1727291827060.png (197.68 KB, 983x1014, dyke.png)

irl kikomi shit

No. 2179383

File: 1727292064671.png (1.8 MB, 1878x820, about.png)

the same photoset has abdl and ageplay tags on fetlife. she's wearing a diaper on her neocities about page

No. 2179387

>>2179354
I can't believe she is unironically kikomi. Thank you for this milk delivery this is cracking me up.

No. 2179388

File: 1727292287669.png (997.97 KB, 787x813, start mewing NOW.png)

>>2179387
thanks for tuning in nonny. hope the whole thread falls in love with this ugly backwater liar bitch

No. 2179390

>>2179354
I don't even know how to begin processing all of this. How did this go unnoticed for so long?

No. 2179439

>>2179352
I'm impressed with this amount of investigating but what the actual fuck. Why Taino and Japanese? Why all of this? How has nobody called her out for racefaking and transfaking?

No. 2179445

>>2179439
She passes as a TIM so nobody cares about calling her out kek she's excused, she unintentionally gamed the system

No. 2179453

>>2179390
Nobody bothered to click on the Fetlife link I guess. I just tried it and you need an account to see anything
>>2179445
This too kek. Until you see her naked she really does look like a man
>>2179357
>I will not poop in my diaper ever unless ordered to
>unless ordered to
>unless

No. 2179471

>>2179388
Mizuki used to be in many of my neocities communities. She always made people uncomfortable but we just never said anything because we got scared to make her upset and get in trouble. Every time she posted a face picture I thought "this is a white cis woman pretending to be x,y,z" Mind you this was the same community that DREAMIE impacted… How did no one give a damn. Why did everyone just go "Um… Ok anyways" when she started sperging about made up racial trauma… Amazing.

No. 2179518

Everything about her is so AGP coded that it's no wonder it took this long for the truth to come out. She styles herself like a sissy troon

No. 2179554

File: 1727302913448.png (86.99 KB, 1400x1000, ocs.png)

>>2179352
I just went through her website which took forever to find the navigation on and she made shrines for her polycule ocs.

No. 2179557

>>2179383
>she's wearing a diaper on her neocities about page
this is such a TIM thing to do its shocking. she really is the perfect kikomi

No. 2179560

>>2179471
This is a symptom of how much power troids have been given. She passed as a tim and became invincible. Also, you don’t have to say ‘cis’ here. This is a safe space for women kek. I truly wish you a lovely peak.

No. 2179651

>>2179354
>>2179367
i never would've guessed that neocities had its own shayna. same flabby ass and gunt too

No. 2179704

>>2179471
Tell us more nona. Did anyone ever gossip about her behind her back?

No. 2179757

>>2179383
This made my night, thanks for the milk. 99% of Neocities users don't use Fetlife so this slipped under the radar. I knew she was fake but not a diaperfag and this committed to the bit.

No. 2179798

File: 1727319800180.png (Spoiler Image,230.62 KB, 372x474, faceass.png)

she even shoops her ass red for pretend spankings. is everything about her life a larp?

No. 2179821

>>2179354
how embarassing holy fuck

No. 2179842

>>2179704
many people… Me and my two friends would shit talk the vroid model art all the time specifically, and then one of them would complain about the racefaking, we'd thought to bring it up to the admin but we had already had that other girl doing it, so i didn't bother

No. 2179929

>>2179388
This photo kek

No. 2180014

>>2179798
Why does her ass look like a pancake and deflated balloon at the same time???

No. 2180025

>>2179352
Lmao "Indigenous person living in Japan" as if Okinawans don't exist

I'm glad I checked the thread tonight

No. 2180110

>>2179388
Are the demons deaf and blind?

No. 2180176

File: 1727357598561.gif (281.4 KB, 220x218, nerd-nerd-emoji.gif)


No. 2180183

>>2180025
You know what that anon meant, don't be a retard

No. 2180187

>>2180025
idk why anons are razzing on you for… being correct? lol

No. 2180199

>>2179798
Why is her asscrack shadow dark red. Unless she was spreading her cheeks and getting it slapped it wouldn't be red in the inner part. This is totally shooped

No. 2180214

>>2179388
really unfortunate rat face kek

No. 2180246

>>2179352
>>2179471
I knew 100% she was a race faker and had an inkling that she was a kikomi irl. I'm glad to see proof. I wonder if this is why she gets kicked from discord servers, because she's fucking crazy.

No. 2180431

>>2180246
Where is she getting kicked from? The anon upthread suggested people were too afraid of her to afraid of her to do anything. Do you have any stories about her? I wonder how her social skills are because in >>2179357 she mentions getting cancelled everywhere she goes.

No. 2180900

>>2180431
I’ve never seen her criticized for anything anywhere but here. She gets her ass kissed all the time even though she has 0 talent. Her circle of frilly Lolita handmaidens read this thread but they’ll do nothing. Love how being a terf is a sin punishable by death but racefaking kikomichan? I pretend I do not see. I wish they’d pull up their bloomers and boot the zook.

No. 2181194

>>2180246
The only way she gets kicked is if someone makes a callout on neocities otherwise they won't because they would have to admit they got this info from lolcow.

No. 2181364

File: 1727394208647.jpg (237.04 KB, 1080x840, 1000008154.jpg)

The fanfiction on her website of living in Japan as a hafu is also worth a read
https://web.archive.org/web/20240925191906/https://mizuki.world/essay03

No. 2181487

File: 1727400053243.png (104.46 KB, 427x300, spacehey.png)

>>2179439
spacehey says two-spirit too. she can't even keep her indigenous larp straight.

No. 2181491

>>2181194
welp, she got doxxed in the nc thread on the other farms. I wonder if the person posting all this shit knows her. kek

No. 2181497

>>2181491
Oh my god, the first anon was right. She really is in her Christian pastor parents attic LMAO

No. 2181690

File: 1727414526905.png (Spoiler Image,910.08 KB, 1676x2160, fuyukoart1.png)

>>2180900
literally anywhere she posts her shitty vroid art: omg so cute !!! it looks like a child drew it. Literally always has. Can barely count as art. I recently discovered she drew nsfw of her persona from back when she was active in dokodemo's server: looks HORRIFIC

No. 2181893

>>2181690
This feels illegal to view wtf

No. 2181895

>>2181690
the way this unironically does pass as TIM behaviour so it didn't get her called out for troonfaking. nasty, but hilarious

No. 2181911

>>2181487
>>2181690
This shitty looking oc is exactly what made me sure that she was a tim kek

No. 2181920

>>2181690
Shitty art aside, this character looks like a child? Wtf?

No. 2181930

>>2181920
right?? apparently its one of her sonas, i assume she just fucked up the proportions because shes a shitty artist

No. 2181982

>>2180183
I'm not responding to the anon moron, I'm responding to to the neocities raceshifter and her claims.
>>2180187

It tracks with the declining literacy rates among youth and the fact that many neocities users lurk here.

No. 2181991

>>2181895
Samefag but this used to happen in Tumblr all the time. Look up idislikecispeople's thread on kiwi farms.

No. 2182027

File: 1727432355237.png (49.33 KB, 204x400, fuyuko ref.png)

>>2181930
She doesn't draw these. She uses basically what is a glorified 3d dressup doll on something called vroid. It's supposed to used for vtuber avatars but I think she just makes her ugly ass characters then draws over them in a art program
https://vroid.com/en/studio

No. 2182095

it's funny how mizuki also claimed being a troon on puberty blockers while also having her childhood in japan
>>2181690
she needs to go back to her parents church

No. 2182695

>>2182027
yeah thats what i mean, the tracing led to her proportions looking completely cooked

No. 2183192

>>2182095
I know troons exist in Japan, but I highly doubt they've caught up to America and are sterilizing kids. Even her POC larp is Westernized.

No. 2183601

It's still wild to me there hasn't been a peep from anyone on neocities. Mizuki is just dreamie 2.0 (possibly worse cus shes a diaper shitter and draws cp) and dreamie shook neocities to its core for weeks

No. 2183735

>>2183601
Right, I figured at least the gendies would be super offended and make a callout post/site since she's a fake FTM.

No. 2183853

>>2181690
>>2181920
>>2181930

actually if you look at the references you'll see that it's the babyfur version which is supposed to be 1-3 years old. fucking vile.

No. 2183983

>>2183601
Dreamie surrounded herself with tifs who love Internet slap fights. Mizuki surrounds herself with passive handmaidens. Allyratworld isn’t about to cancel her tea and crumpets Lolita frolic to make a Mizuki callout post.

No. 2183991

>>2183983
They'll all probably slowly distance themselves from mizuki. Everyone in that community is nonconfrontational and doesn't like drama too much.

No. 2184000

>>2183991
They all like to pretend they're above the drama but they all read lolcow. It's honestly sad they talk a big game about "problematic" shit yet run and hide when one of their own is involved. It's spineless and cowardly

No. 2184119

>>2184000
Ally Rat has never been the type to do callouts or condemn others. People in that server have openly talked about shotacon, rape, and other weird shit. That’s probably why Mizuki likes being there.

No. 2184132

>>2183853
wait thats actually disgusting wtf. how the hell has nobody jumped her for that before?? was that her troon immunity or some shit at play?

>>2183983
>>2184119
i think a lot of adults on this side of the web (particularly the ones who havent had twitter/tumblr brain poisoning of some variety) tend to give callouts in general a swerve. i wonder if anyone's gonna quietly unassociate with her now that this is all coming to light …

No. 2184137

>>2184132
I've already noticed a few people disconnecting with her completely

No. 2184159

>>2184132
To be honest I kinda prefer it like that, keeping the callouts to actual serious matters and simply stop giving attention to weirdos. Half of the problems in the modern web wouldn't happen if we acted like that, block/unfollow buttons are here for a reson.

No. 2184304

>>2184137
Disconnecting how? Are they removing her button and ignoring her in servers?

No. 2184753

>>2184304
i heard a rumor this morning that ally is deleting the cafe rose server because of this

No. 2184804

>>2184753
I just checked and it’s gone.

No. 2184915

Does anyone have any discord screenshots of Mizuki being weird?

No. 2184920

I never thought I'd be posting here, but honestly, I'm really disappointed. I've been a fan of the 32-Bit Café for a while now, and it sucks to say this, but I, along with a few others, have tried talking to Xandra about getting Mizuki removed from the server, and she just won’t budge.

People are feeling unsafe, and it seems like Xandra is more worried about how it looks to engage with drama than actually helping the community. She thinks this is an attack on the LGBTQIA community, which is kind of frustrating.

This whole situation has already done a lot of harm to the trans community, and keeping Mizuki around just feeds into the TERF talk about groomers. I really don’t want to be associated with that, and I want everyone to know that a lot of us aren’t okay with Xandra’s choice.(namefag newfag)

No. 2184929

>>2184920
lmfaoooo go back

No. 2184934

>>2184920
Tranny/troon supporter go back.

No. 2184935

I was just about to say that Mizuki is being looked down upon because she's an actual woman who allegedly "harms" the trans community, even though almost nobody gave a fuck about her depravity when everyone thought she was a TIM. I guess this retard >>2184920 confirmed it.

No. 2184941

>>2184920
performative leftism at its finest. racism bad (as it should be) but then these people are okay with keeping around a white girl who has spent at least a year grifting off a marginalized culture she'll never understand what it's like to be a part of. oh yeah, the LGBTQIA community really needs more wet-diapered ABDL gooners, we'd really be up shit's creek if we lost her! gimme a break. xandra should just kick mizuki and say nothing else about it

No. 2184962

File: 1727561841776.jpeg (162.28 KB, 876x697, 2022.jpeg)

>>2184941
>at least a year
she may have been doing this a long time if shes been called out before

No. 2185148

>>2184920

Proof, anon? Making claims like this without proof is next to useless.

No. 2185305

File: 1727574371605.png (18.66 KB, 1603x328, proofemail.png)


No. 2185318

>>2185305
lol is this a draft? where's her response?

No. 2185335

>>2185305
oh christ this reeks of twitter. god. go back and delete your website on your way out, this shit is embarrassing.

No. 2185341

>>2185305
NTA but this is laughably bad. Fucking kek. Go make a callout post on neocities if you care so much. The farms aren't your personal army

No. 2185367

>>2184920
>>2185305
Hi, thanks for trying to take out the trash in your community. Unfortunately the groomer shit isn't wholly "TERF talk", what you witnessed (pedophilic behavior being excused and ignored) is the norm in a lot of TQ+ communities. Being more concerned she's lying about being trans and "making them look bad" than the racefaking diaperfag shit is the issue with your crowd. Unless a third party unrelated to LC spills more dirt, she's going to get away scott free at this point.

No. 2185387

>>2185367
Lol anon literally pandering to troons who would instantly witch hunt us, call us TERFs to get us cancelled, shit on anyone who posted in this thread on Neocities if they found out, but want us to do something about their in-fighting with other brainsick weirdos. No thanks, the milk is hot but that's it

No. 2185483

>>2184920

If you're going to moralfag this hard then don't be anonymous. Why not post on the forum about your concerns? Why not post on your website about it? Why don't the "few others" do the same?

No. 2185501

>>2185483
>>2185148
why are you so invested in this retarded shit? you're being way more annoying than the sped that you keep replying to.

No. 2185504

I'm interested in who mizuki claimed to be before this neocities larp arc. She used to wear a hijab in the facebook pics like where is that era like was she on tumblr prior to this?

No. 2185513

>>2185501
NTA but I get it, treating lc like we’re evil boogeymen in neocities communities but then running to us like we are their mommies who are gonna do something for them is annoying. handle your own drama shit and don’t be a coward, stand on your morals if you’re gonna pull this shit. We’ll just watch from the sidelines and laugh at the sperg.

No. 2185640

>>2184304
>>2184137

has anyone kept track of who's disconnected so far other than >>2184753? im curious to see who's dropping this chick kek

No. 2185650

>>2184920
>>2185305
kek, retardation strikes again. nobody cares, go cry elsewhere. i always laugh when i see posts like this, like when the feds made that big mindless wall of text thanking us for getting them banned. absolutely clueless. are you lost? go back to your "community" that is full of people just like the fake tranny you're so concerned about. she has more in common with them than you think. she isn't making a bad example out of the "trans community", trannies made that reputation for themselves. she fits right in with you degenerates

No. 2186299

>>2184753
I understand if no one wants to spoon feed me but I'm mostly out of the NC drama sphere. How is Mizuki getting outed such a big deal that someone else would delete her entire webring?

No. 2186474

>>2186299
Ally Rat says in her diary she’s too much a normie to interact with neocities users. Maybe this Mizuki situation was so weird she decided that it’s best to just not involve herself anymore. The webring is still there, just not the discord server.

No. 2186523

File: 1727637605768.png (108.55 KB, 950x408, caferose.png)

>>2186474
This is an imageboard.

No. 2186547

>>2186523
sounds like it was more than just one person then. >>2184119 called it.

No. 2186550

>>2186523
I judged her for not kicking Mizuki, but this gave me some respect for Ally. The most active channels in that server were yaoi and yuri with like the same 3-5 people being fucking weird and posting about shit like anime sex games…this frequently spilled over into general. The channels for cute stuff were hardly used and the normal people in the server were hardly active. I think being called out by name ITT was the final nail in the coffin.

No. 2186592

>>2186550
Mizuki in particular was extremely active in Ally's server and would constantly sperg about her fake oppression sob stories. Another user always talked to her about DID systems and came out as a system herself later on. This made me not want to participate

No. 2186756

File: 1727644091776.jpg (67.65 KB, 1080x174, Zooker.jpg)

Ally still has her in it though

No. 2186855

>>2186523
The inclusion of Mizuki in the server made me leave it. I imagine this whole situation might also make some members want to leave the webring entirely.

No. 2186860

>>2185318
NTA but you can tell it was sent but the upper right icon. Xandra probably wrote this kid off as crazy and ignored the email kek

No. 2186871

File: 1727648446383.jpg (95.7 KB, 1080x445, 1000008235.jpg)

>>2185504
Mizuki used to go by Ai and they/he in 2021. She has a lot of accounts under the username algolian including a Dreamwidth, (pre-debut) Twitch, Cohost, DeviantArt, Flickr and more
https://web.archive.org/web/20240929034923/https://bandori.org/user/132204/algolian/

No. 2186873

>>2186523
Thank you- on mobile and didn’t really want to navigate her website right then

No. 2186876

As someone who was in this server, I have to say I am incredibly disappointed with how this whole situation turned out. On it’s surface, I really loved the concept of a gathering place for adult fans of cute things to come together and converse, but to say I was shocked by how crude some of the conversations would become in yaoi and video-games . It was incredibly uncomfortable and I do wish that Ally could’ve moderated more, but as someone who is around her age trying to better myself as a person outside of the internet, I can understand and respect her decision to nip it in the bud completely.

No. 2186881

>>2186860
lol Are you retarded, anon? Sent emails don’t have options for marking it unread (the first icon in the list of options with the little notification dot on the envelope.) Google “mark unread icon”. They also said Xandra responded shutting it down, but they conveniently left that off the screenshot. Low effort tranny bait.

No. 2186891

i want screenshots of the discord server so bad kekkkk was mizuki the worst one who would talk about this shit?

No. 2186896

>>2186881
I use protonmail and I just checked. The sent messages absolutely show that first icon, you're making shit up

No. 2186904

>>2186891
I wish I took screenshots but iirc strawberry-gashes and neet-elite (fujoshi on nekoweb) would join in

No. 2186919

>>2186896
ok nonna, just take this abomination at their word then. Sorry but i’m never going to side with troons over a real female (not sorry) Trannies lie and villify women ALL the time so i’m not feeding into it. More concerned about what the diaper brainrot TIF is doing

No. 2186924

>>2186891
DA but unfortunately I didn’t get any screenshots before the server was deleted. In my opinion Mizuki was the worst offender, but strawberry-gashes, planetaryinfluence & neet-elite come close. Honestly everyone else I chatted with in there was chill.

No. 2186985

>>2186756
Ally appears to have removed her from the listing since this post.

No. 2186986

>>2186985
LOL she is lurking

No. 2186998

File: 1727654048061.png (159.1 KB, 1504x484, help.png)

it's so funny that ally pretends she didn't participate

No. 2187015

>>2186998
Discord is such a mess. People get too comfortable in servers with strangers and start thinking convos like this is fine and normal, meanwhile most people are watching them in disgust. Was this actually taken yesterday? I wonder if the real reason she deleted it is so no one would leak chats she participated in?

No. 2187018

>>2187015
ayrt - sorry, forgot to add that they were taken in december 2023.

No. 2187073

Honestly, I think that the lolicon/shotacon conversations were what sent her over the edge over them talking about BL tropes.

No. 2187325

File: 1727669977469.png (85.99 KB, 874x322, xandra.png)

seems that someone commented in xandra's shoutbox about it… can't see what was said though. does anyone know? regardless, this reads like such a copout, so much for protecting the trannies and the pee oh ceas

No. 2187334

File: 1727670543408.png (1.21 MB, 1406x786, mizukiDA.png)

>>2186871
samefag but i did a little bit of digging with this username, turns out she had a deviantart account under the same username with the same vroidy ugly kinda art which was made ~3 years ago. this one's supposed to be an oc sona… funny how there's no mention of being japanese here but i assume the japanese larp was still ongoing at this point because her alias is a japanese name and yknow how tumblr users are about using names under certain ethnicities and races kek. it also links to a tumblr with the url menherabunny but it appears to be either a hoarded url or wiped blog nowadays

No. 2187356

>>2187325
god grant me the serenity not to alog. she needs to shut the fuck up. she cares so much when it's the terfs. yet, once again when it's a heckin valid retard of gender it becomes none of her business. as much as I hate to say it, this is lending some credence to that lost handmaiden sperg up thread.

No. 2187365

File: 1727672729685.jpg (238.09 KB, 701x663, xandra1.jpg)

>>2187356
She assures the overgrown children on her server that there's no terfs on it and that they'll be totally safe but she tunes into agoraroad every now and then, a place started by and populated by 4chan oldfags with the type of opinions you'd expect from 4chan oldfags. I'll never ever understand why terfs are at the height of the boogeyman chain, but a mix of transphobic, sexist, pedophilic and racist men aren't.

No. 2187373

>>2187365
no terfs allowed but if you lie about being a Japanese Taino tranny you’re more than welcome. classic handmaiden behaviour

No. 2187391

File: 1727675347768.png (460.99 KB, 737x729, 7289432.png)

>>2187334
nice find nona. i wonder how long she's been racefaking. this is egregious when compared to her actual pics. it's a shame we dont have more info on her from that era, but mizuki's current tumblr is dolleriumfluffle. she uses it mainly to talk about her DID larp. here's her text post tag:

https://www.tumblr.com/dolleriumfluffle/tagged/dollerium%20speaks

>>2187365
>I'll never ever understand why terfs are at the height of the boogeyman chain
oh nona, you know why

No. 2187459

File: 1727684633598.png (255.4 KB, 1112x384, 78sdfsf.png)

Taling about Allyrat, I find funny how her updates div is the most unreadable thing (who thought 2.5 lines of text being visible at once is good?) and hovering over her recomened sites their source code shows up for whatever reason.

I used to follow her but then removed the follow in 2022 or so. I don't quite remember what made me unfollow jer, but I have a faint memory she got into proshipping/media drama before. I wish I had saved caps…

No. 2187462

>>2187459
I unfollowed cause I think her site and art are fugly as hell, personally.

No. 2187501

>>2187356
Xandra is a fat retard, she claims there's no terfs but she also claims she's not responsible for what people post. When lord knows she would kick someone from her special ed class 32bit cafe for not being worshipers of gender. What the point of it even is I don't know it's not like they even create or do anything impressive. They are all stunted weirdos with the most low effort sites

No. 2187507

>>2187462
I dislike her art as well kek I was there mostly for her off-site links, web materials and weird shit like the 2nd hand store finds

No. 2187564

>>2187365
>agora road
That site is full of antisemitic /pol/tards and conspiracy theorists, holy shit. I'm so sick of handmaidens caring more about the feelings of trannies than actual far-right rhetoric.

No. 2187587

>>2187462
I used to tolerate her art and site but it was the armpit bush drawings that made me unfollow her

No. 2187591

>>2187325
So if I was an open terf on my website and registered for the 32 bit cafe, that would be all fine and good as long as I didn't forum post about it?
>>2187459
I feel bad for Ally getting sucked into this retard's drama

No. 2187593

>>2187462
Her art style is western animation style trying to be anime and its really cringe looking. she cant shade without it looking weirdly shiny. Her style is really unappealing

No. 2187600

File: 1727698203424.png (79.54 KB, 984x164, smugfatretard.PNG)

All of Xandra's journals are I'm 14 and this is deep. Like those low IQ people who are like "I hate small talk, talk to me about the universe uwu" Is she implying that there's a version in her reddit beliefs that we all outgrew after age 14 that is a evil terf neonazi troonhater?
https://library.xandra.cc/blog/

No. 2187603

>>2187564
Love how most neocities tards excuse all sorts of degeneracy and racism but heaven forbid you want to be around females only.
>>2187593
Kek you're not wrong but I still find it endearing in a DeviantArt cringe kind of way.

No. 2188074

File: 1727722718070.png (605.72 KB, 864x826, whorehau.se.png)

>>2186998
Not surprising. She owns a fanlisting collective with koinuko called whorehau.se, where koinuko makes shrines to characters from the degenerate BL games she likes lol. Ally made a shrine about a character from a game made by the same company that makes most of the shit koinuko likes, so she obviously participates. She just doesn't wanna get called out on it

No. 2188387

>>2187600
>Is she implying that there's a version in her reddit beliefs that we all outgrew after age 14 that is a evil terf neonazi troonhater?
No, this is typical fake deep sperging.

No. 2188399

> Like those low IQ people who are like "I hate small talk, talk to me about the universe uwu"
Aka coping about their severely unlikeable natures kek(learn2reply)

No. 2188439

>>2188399
So you know how to greentext (barely) but not reply? Get the fuck out of here. The thread is crawling with newfags and tourists lately.
>>2187073
How would anyone but Ally herself know what sent her over the edge? Selfposters begone.

No. 2188450

>>2188074
this thread continues to validate my decision to never watch anime.

No. 2189318

wondering if someone will make a callout for mizuki. im surprised she hasn't deleted everything. isn't she active in lolita and doll communities outside of neocities? i wouldn't be surprised if she tries to come back under another persona at a certain point

No. 2189334

>>2189318
Like someone said upthread, I highly doubt it. Mizuki surrounded herself with handmaidens that are unlikely to want to stir up conflict. Sad for the loss of milk on that front, but I’d rather things on the small web stay that chill.

No. 2189338

>>2189318
Probably not. Seems like the spergy drama loving types are laying low after being "lolcow'd" (like soapfriendo) or have moved over to nekoweb (macaque). I do wish I could witness the meltdowns over this though kek.

No. 2189352

the bar is nonexistant for korean idols(newfag)

No. 2189355

>>2189352
kpopnis banned newfag, not even the right thread. embarrassing.

No. 2189384

>>2189338
Soap even almost seems like a normal person now, they should thanks us for gossiping about them. Lolcow's cognitive–behavioral therapy kek

No. 2189480

>>2189384
Newfag, soap is not a "them" she is a woman

No. 2189482

>>2189480
"Them" refering to the drama goats the post I was replying to mentioned, not about Soap. Sorry if the wording was confusing, she was just an example I gave.

No. 2189558

>>2189482
Don't apoloze, the other anon was sperging over using "pronouns" when I could tell you meant "them" as in multiple NC lolcows.

No. 2191697

has anyone else noticed that the lexi troon's website has been down for maint for a while now? hopefully that means he's fucked off kek

No. 2191746

>>2191697
I don't like how he was in Ally's server and webring while he had scripts/trackers and allegedly sockpuppets

No. 2192032

Neet-Elite / Fujoshi.nekoweb.org has also been down for a while since getting posted on the farms.

No. 2192318

>>2191697
He has a new url https://l3xi.com. I’m phonefagging so I can’t post screenshots rn.

>>2191746
He was in there until the very end too.

No. 2192878

>>2192318
day actually ruined holy fuck. ntm all his pages take actual centuries to load wtf

No. 2193029

>>2192318
He's still in Cafe Rose. A lot more people would have been active in the Discord server if Mizuki, Lexi troon, and the Disuko troon weren't in it

No. 2193093

File: 1728048224308.png (32.37 KB, 1366x642, 837434.png)

>>2192878
God you're right, his index looks like this and somehow it took my browser 2 whole minutes to load the page. It also has a bunch of useless scripts on the code, but I doubt those are the reason, is he using his smart fridge as server and host?

No. 2193095

>>2193093
Wow it's so plain. I'm surprised he's not trying to keep up with the pink kawaii girly site larp.

No. 2193116

>>2193095
Looking at the text, I guess he is on his hashtag eco-friendly era. Probably just another way to make him/his site feel superior since he is boasting about it.
I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to join one of these 30kb webrings later on seeing the minimal design and how he is keeping tabs on his data used; all these people know what to do is to change their appearance to try fitting on different groups.

No. 2194250

File: 1728118068926.jpg (366.32 KB, 1330x882, sparkle88ooo.jpg)

Does anyone remember sparklelollipop, AKA dreamies biggest fan turned lolcow lurker? I remember how she was starting to get annoyed by dreamies antics, turning into a baby radfem and then suddenly disappearing from neocities.

She came back 8 months ago under a new name "88oooo0". Seems she's another example of a too online girl falling into the online christian hole. She's also online dating a cop at 17 and is lying to him about her age. When asking for advice on her profile she got told it's a non-issue because the aoc in the UK is 16. Of course it's the weirdo neocities adults goading her into it. Considering the context of the people she's around I hope the 88 in her name was a totally random choice kek.

Why is the "troon handmaiden -> baby edgy 4channer/terf -> nazi tradcath larper" pipeline so common among neocities teen girls?

No. 2194306

>>2194250
Judging by the way she talks about him, looks like her cop boyfriend is a good chunk older than her. Praying she stays safe, tradwife and pedo moid is the most dangerous combo.
On the pipeline, it's not just on neocities girls, but young people in general. At that age your brain mostly thinks in black/white and/or has very strong opinions with barely no middle ground (the way people act online also feeds this mindset). So when they X radical position has let them down, they jump onto Y radical position, the complete opposite.

No. 2194318

>>2194250
>posting about lc on their neocities feed
Fucking cringe

No. 2194468

>>2194250
>Considering the context of the people she's around I hope the 88 in her name was a totally random choice kek.
You know it's not a coincidence.

No. 2194600

>>2194250
I was also a handmaiden prior to lurking lc due to the dreamie drama. I had my views challenged after looking around and reading up more and now I’ve finally developed my own opinions.

No. 2194733

>>2194250
i wouldn't believe her on any of it. she's always been a chronic liar and will say anything for attention. she got caught in several big lies before during and after the dreamie situation, most of which weren't even related to that drama.

she's a pathological liar; she's not even 17, she literally used to be in neocities servers admitting she says she's about two years younger than she really is.

No. 2194995

>>2194733
That is so funny, what was she lying about other than her age?

No. 2195408

File: 1728195474211.jpg (128.49 KB, 1139x385, xandramizuki.jpg)

Remember guys, being a pedophile off-platform is totally ok as long as it's not illegal, but being transphobic off-platform will get you removed immediately!

No. 2195409

>>2195408
how is larping as a minority not classed as antisocial behaviour by these freaks. xandra needs to to take a long walk off a short pier to say the least

No. 2195436

>>2195408
She’s so fat and dramatic. They’ve never been brigaded. She and 32shit cafe have only been mentioned here a handful of times in the last few years.

No. 2195468

>>2195408
So they welcome nazis and pedophiles with open arms? Yeah they're a bunch of groomers.
While I understand the "we can't control what the do off-site" part, no one has time to background check every single person and stupid shit like someone being a dumb jerk (as in randomly combative and such, minor things) outside isn't enough, but the reasonable reaction to someone coming to you about someone being racist, a pedophile, etc would be to remove them.
But no, apparently these are ok as long as you don't act out in the server/website even if you have knowledge of it. Thinking women don't have dicks though? Death penalty.

(Unrelated, but I'm a bit out the loop as I don't follow anyone involved nor use Discord, so I have been wondering for awhile who the fuck this Xandra person everyone talks about was until the other dat I realized she is following me on Neocities kek)

No. 2195643

File: 1728217803105.jpg (234.4 KB, 922x1017, 1000008298.jpg)

>>2195408
Mizuki was making up shit about a closed Taino religion while being a white chick from Iowa. That doesn't count as being racist/hateful or anti-social?

No. 2195650

>>2195643
Silly nonnie, if it's a fetish then it doesn't count.

No. 2195685

File: 1728220327657.png (60.4 KB, 793x392, 32shitcafe.png)

>>2195408
I went to the 32bit cafe to see what it was all about. Some members were crying over an old troon's website. I click on the link and it's just some old man's crossdresser photobook. He talks about stealing his mother's bra and underwear and even some fetish story about how his mom forced him to wear a dress. I think the entire userbase is retarded
https://geocities.restorativland.org/WestHollywood/Parade/1796/

No. 2195722

File: 1728222613851.jpg (373.15 KB, 720x632, captura.jpg)

>>2195685
Her DIRTY underwear, that's so gross. If they think this is so beautiful it makes them cry, I now get why they have no problems with pedophiles around, different splinters from the same tree.

No. 2196083

File: 1728232510332.jpg (231.51 KB, 542x410, Relax.jpg)

>>2195685
He's straight up wearing a sissy-like dress in one of the photos too. So brave and stunning! Totally not just a fetish!

No. 2196362

File: 1728243452736.png (53.95 KB, 818x250, Xandra32bit.png)

>>2195685
also Xandra liked the post because of course she did

No. 2196385

>>2196362
She's such an enabler handmaiden

No. 2196955

>>2194995
AYRT, that she confronted dreamie "multiple times behind closed doors" (no reason to think this and she provided no proof), that she was behind the account that exposed cakie or whatever that pedo's name was (it was almost definitely dreamie), that she's asian - and then she claimed she was also cherokee when dreamie started saying that, that her mom was an OG lolita (sure), etc. a variety of stupid lies with no proof that she'd go back and forth on and have to stumble over her words explaining all of the time.

No. 2196995

>>2196955
This almost makes me want to go aww because it's such middle schooler tier lying I kind of find it endearing. Pure "my dad works at nintendo" energy, it practically confirms she's younger than she said she was.

No. 2198852

File: 1728407981819.png (43.78 KB, 936x919, LMAO.PNG)

It's so cringe and pathetic Xandra is trying to pass this off as a pixel clique. She claims its to teach noobs how to do pixels but this is just using the paint bucket on a square. She is so smug and fat and retarded and annoying. Everything about her just screams HR retard with Dunning-Krueger.
https://pantson.xandra.cc/

No. 2198979

>>2198852
Jesus christ how many times have you posted in this thread alogging? This shit isn't even lolcow worthy. You're coming off obsessed and pathetic sperging about one person that barely has any milk.

No. 2199033

>>2198852

Pixel cliques are retarded and so are you for gatekeeping them. Go cry on your blog about it

No. 2199060

>>2198979
nta but xandra is annoying, panders to troons, has that disgusting pedo starbreaker moid as one of the most active people in her community and refused to kick mizuki. i’m not losing any sleep over her getting alogged.

No. 2199073

>>2199060
If this is the best milk we have for this thread it's fucking boring. Also have zero reason to believe she refused to kick the racefaker, the anon never provided her response despite saying she emailed back and refused and I'm beginning to think it's this sperging obsessive anon.

I might be a nonnie who laughs at lolcows but I'm here for laughable milk and >>2198852 is so inconsequential it's stupid as fuck. Let them have their little gay shit on that side of the internet, who gives a shit

Where's the idiots sperging on Neocities feed? Who has some real milk?(infighting)

No. 2199075

>>2199073
nobody cares what you're here for. come back when you stop reddit spacing and learn to format your posts.(infighting)

No. 2199079

>>2198979
Why did you got so worked up about that post, just ignore if you don't find it interesting.

No. 2199141

>>2199075
Are you retarded? Spacing paragraphs isn't reddit spacing. Scroll up and lurkmoar, tourist.

>>2199079
Got my hopes up after the Mizuki drop. That shit was grade A but you're right nonnie. Just seems like this thread is a little dry and posting supposed milk under sage screams newfag/larping to me

No. 2199165

>>2199073
Read this post:
>>2195408

No. 2199170

>>2199141
Google reddit spacing you absolute retard. You are the newfag since you don't know what that means. You are also using "sage" wrong too. Thats not "for posting milk under" you need to go back, you don't know how imageboards work

No. 2199178

>>2199141
You're coming off obsessed and pathetic sperging about one person

No. 2199270

>>2199141
To be honest I have posted "milk" in sage before as well, sometimes you want to share something but it probably isn't interesting enough to bump the whole tread. I guess she just wanted to complain for a bit.

No. 2199744

other than woti, where do you nonnies find normal ass women who don't have gender brain poisoning/obsessed with social issues/generally arent obnoxious teenagers and young adults?? im starting to get so sick of clicking through sites with the tranny flag and the palestine flag

No. 2199764

>>2199744
Sites the woti girls follow

No. 2200025

>>2199744
I don't think there are very many on neocities unfortunately.

No. 2200199

>>2199744
Find websites of normal or TERFy women, and check their links, affiliates, and following if they have the NC profile on.

No. 2200596

>>2200199
NAYRT but can you actually recommend women's websites/blogs that are not obsessed with TERF ideology and constantly sperging about troons? i'm exhausted, not all of us want to hear about it 24/7. why is there no middle ground anywhere online between "actual troon" and "only ever posts about troons"?

No. 2200665

>>2200596
i don't know where you typically hang out online, but where i am there is plenty of middle ground and the TERFy women in my community are not "constantly sperging" about anything. did you even try to take the advice given by anons above? why are you so desperate to be spoonfed? part of the joy of the smallweb is discovering things on your own. if you need direct recommendations so badly, you could at least be more specific about your interests. right now nobody knows wtf you want except for the feminists to be quiet
>>2199744
it really depends on what you want to read. i find lots of cool women online just by doing research into my own hobbies. try using alternative search browsers like Ecosia or even Marginalia. they tend to be older and/or more professional people than you'll find on neocities though

No. 2200670

>>2200596
nonnie, there's plenty of middle ground… a lot of women just don't post about troonshit altogether and focus on their own stuff. what kind of circles are you hanging out in ???

No. 2200675

>>2200596
it's really not that deep

No. 2200702

>>2200596
What are you talking about?? Hardly anyone "spergs about troons" on their site or in their blog.

No. 2200713

File: 1728526200848.png (363.3 KB, 852x522, grandma.png)

Nobody cares about Grandma's site anymore so she's shutting down. Her AO3 stories are atrocious. Grandma Devastatia sure loves writing rape stories about underage girls.
https://devastatia.com/static/moving-on.html

No. 2200732

File: 1728527964028.gif (1.32 MB, 336x333, cat4retard.gif)

>>2200596
I’ve seen this sentiment come from overstimulated autists that spend too much time on lolcow in the troon threads and it all starts to merge in their brain, culminating in a hurricane milton size meltie capable of destroying discord servers. This anon may want to consider evacuating the computer chair.

No. 2200740

>>2200713
How is anyone supposed to engage with her or her site if her e-mail, guestbook, and comment section are removed?

No. 2200805

>>2200596
You know the internet is bigger than lolcow and twitter, right? If you want to see if a specific woman is in the middle, just read her blog if she has one. Personally I haven't found any NC that solely sperg over trannies, if anything it's dedicated to hobbies with a dogwhistles sprinkled through. Seriously, just look at the woti userlist instead of asking to be spoonfed websites that could get guilt-by-associationed by being mentioned here.

No. 2200806

>>2200596
literally none of the terfy women I follow talk about troons all the time? this reeks of "give me websites you MIGHT think are terfs and I'll write a call-out post on them". how hard is it to read past a website's homepage?

No. 2200842

>>2200596
Who is obsessed with terf ideology and is constantly sperging about troons though, specifically on neocities?

No. 2200850

>>2200842
lurkmoar

No. 2200864

>>2200850
I was being cheeky, my point is there's nobody on neocities or woti obsessed with sperging about troons non stop. The few sites like anti woman brands and that one radical feminism centered site were quickly abandoned and are largely impersonal.
The type of people that don't shut up about radical feminism are usually either older women doing activism and most of them tend to have blogs that are usually on substack or wordpress because they're more focused on the blogging aspect rather than a personal website aspect. On the other side of the spectrum, there's an annoying subset of underage tumblr radfems that constantly sperg about irrelevant discourse because they're tumblrinas first and radfems second and I sure am thankful they haven't discovered neocities yet.

No. 2200961


No. 2200970

>>2200961
good job revealing those to the troons that lurk here atleast encrypt them or spoiler

No. 2200992

>>2200970
you're joking right?

No. 2200995

>>2200992
She isn't, we do hang out in these…. I should've spoiled them, sorry.
Btw the other day I remembered about 2048 and I have been playing it on most of my work breaks kek I remember people would do custom boards/sites that replaced the numbers with characters and such. I wonder if some are still avaible, all the links I found on 2012 Tumblr post lead to a dead site

No. 2200999

>>2200998
Nonnie I think she's joking kek
The atmosphere in this thread has been so aggro lately.

No. 2201000

>>2200999
seriously, it's bumming me out.

No. 2201003

>>2201000
That anon doesn't even have reading comprehension, pretty sure it's just random people lurking trying to get into.

No. 2201005

>>2200961
noooo nonnie how could you, now they're going to trannify that poor crouton!

No. 2201182

>>2200961
>indeed.com
>no troons
>get off neocities and get a job

This was an amazing post kek

No. 2201187

>>2200842
>>2200864
The only women who are sperging nonstop about troons and being a terf IME tend to be on designated side accounts on social media, or private Discord servers. I think nonnie is probably a TRA asking to be fed "cryptoterfs" on Neocities for callout purposes.

No. 2201207

>>2201187
That was my thought too. It's not hard to find people just vibing on neocities. I would rather people share cool forums or games. Flight Rising seems overrun by gendies

No. 2201924

is the internet archive gone?

No. 2201979

File: 1728602571387.jpg (428.22 KB, 1080x1222, Screenshot_20241010_192107_X.j…)

>>2201924
Yeah some dumbasses hacked it for Palestine whatever that means lol

Hacking group responsible: https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta

No. 2202122

>>2201979
Slacktivism at its finest. Why can't they hack an Israeli website if they're virtue signaling over muh Palestine?

No. 2202133

>>2202122
Because that's what a clever person would do.

No. 2202147

>>2201979
This is fake and obviously a lie, work on your internet literacy for the love of god(infighting)

No. 2202212

File: 1728618639440.jpg (144.01 KB, 1080x418, Wbm.jpg)

>>2202147
Look it up yourself, why are you so aggressive. Get out of here milk under sage newfag. Ever since you got here the vibes have been off.

https://thehill.com/homenews/4927399-internet-archive-data-breach-exposes-more-than-31-million-user-accounts-reports/

No. 2202222

>>2201979
this feels psyopy in the same way that just stop oil is psyopy. internet archive has no connection to israel so the only reason this could've been done is to piss people off

No. 2202224

>>2201979
Kinda reminds me when some Russian group hacked ao3 and lied saying they were Muslims

No. 2202232

>>2202224
I never knew that ao3 got hacked. That must have been like Ashleymadison leak but for neet virgins kek

No. 2202261

>>2201979
why are we trusting something said by a raging grifter lmfao

No. 2202303

>>2202212
>why are you so aggressive
>t. most aggro reply

No. 2202660

>>2202232
It happened last year and like this it was claimed to be for moral or political reasons. Even though if someone cared about that they would hack a website with actual revenge porn instead of a nerdy fanfic site.

No. 2202666

>>2202222
I don't have the tweets so you will have to take my word, but it started because the hacker hroup though the Internet Archive was owned by the US government, so they hacked it in protest of them funding firearms for Israel. Then when people told them that's not the case, they changed their reasoning to "Any page made under the US is in/directly helping Israel/the US government".
Complete retardation, I wish they used their brain for more than for hacking important websites for attention

No. 2202695

>>2202666
hugely retarded if true. pro-palestine activists by far are some of the most braindead individuals online at the moment and this takes the cake if its legit

No. 2202745

>>2202666
Why not hack a pro-Israel website instead? 9 times out of 10 the people saying this shit are American, Canadian or British anyway (AKA also colonizer countries that support Israel), so they're part of the problem in their logic.

>>2202695
It's such an insult to the people being genocided in Gaza. Pro-Palestine leftists literally can't do anything but virtue signal or act like antisemitic psychopaths.

No. 2202774

>>2202666
Kekkk yes Palestine will be saved through taking the Internet Archive down, 88x31 buttons, and Miku fan art.

No. 2203167

>>2202212
Chill out, nonnie. NAYRT, and more than one person may not like what you post in this thread. Maybe go for a walk and disconnect for a second, you clearly got triggered

No. 2204282

>>2202745
taking down israeli government pages or breaching some essetial app/website to functioning of israel (banking, etc) would do more damage than attacking IA, which actually leans more into left side politically. i hate slacktivist virtue signallers thinking shit like this helps palestinians. people working on ground and risking their lives directly help them. donating money or actually doing targetted boycott is more meaningful than empty screeching

No. 2204515

>>2204282
But a hacking project that targets the Israeli government takes too much work, nonnie. That's hard. It's easier to make 88x31 "Free Palestine" buttons, draw Miku eating a watermelon, harass random Jewish people, and take down the internet's biggest free library instead.

No. 2206178

File: 1728863707133.jpg (485.63 KB, 1080x1597, 1000013712.jpg)

https://kyledrake.com/writings/ai
Nonnas what are your opinions on Kyle's article regarding AI? There's a lot of freaking out and threatening to leave Neocities on my feed.

No. 2206420

>>2206178
I get it. He's a techbro and they are generally okay with AI because it can be useful to automate monotonous stuff, on top of being excited for new tech. They don't have a fear of it "stealing" their trans miku with vitiligo drawing. I don't care about his opinion as long as he doesn't sell our data to train models for coding. I don't see why he would when chatgpt and github are already owned by the same company and do that, and basically every single AI model can already recreate everything thats on neocities (On a technical level, like html/css) I don't think it's worth freaking out over at all.

No. 2206451

>>2206178
i don't give a fuck as long as he's not selling our data like the other nonnie said. i feel like a lot of anti-ai sperging is just retarded fearmongering by people who suck at art anyway

No. 2206452

>>2206451
>retarded fearmongering by people who suck at art anyway
it's interesting that this is how aifags justify stuff to themselves if they aren't going the full "artists aren't special they don't deserve anything" route like some others do. The fallacy of "if you are upset about your work being style copied by AI, well uhm, don't worry because you probably suck anyway" because if they consider that good artists that they would otherwise respect are upset about losing their livelihoods and having their entire artistic vision lifted and mass-produced by any retard with access to a computer, they might feel a little bit bad about shilling AIslop, and shilling AIslop goes before anything else (instant gratification = king) so we can't have that.

No. 2206458

>>2206452
What pearl clutchers like you can never answer is why any of that is bad, like if you can create 100 cool artworks in an interesting style in a day instead of having to wait weeks for the artist to finish another piece, why is that bad? Yeah sure the job of artist goes away, but so has the job of chimney sweeps or telephone operator or signpainter, and our lives are all better for it. Imagine if all the signpainters demanded people never use vinyl graphics and computer software because they would lose their jobs. You can see how silly that is, right? Did society collapse when sign painters went away? How is this different?

No. 2206463

>>2206458
Explain why you think taking the HUMAN out of an expression of HUMAN EXPERIENCE will result in something worthwhile

No. 2206472

>>2206452
half these people shitting their pants about "ai is evil and stealing our artwork" just draw shit like zipper titty anime boys with pride flags & pro-palestine miku anyway, dumbass. not to mention the fact they all go dead silent when it comes to people abusing ai for other forms of artwork like writing and chat bots, etc. i have no sympathy for them until they stop being dirty hypocrites about ai stealing other forms of art

No. 2206477

>>2206472
If you actually bothered looking at and participating in writing communities you'd see the same concerns about ai-generated novels, ai art discourse is the biggest simply because ai art is visual.

No. 2206479

>>2206477
do you think i don't know that? i'm pissed off because it's only us writers who talk about this shit with ai fanfic/novels/etc. my issue is with visual artists who talk big about ai stealing their work while making use of shit like chatgpt for generating fanfiction and for the sake of roleplaying with their blorbos

No. 2206504

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>>2206178
Most of the illiterate retards are moving onto nekoweb where the main dev, just like Kyle isn't opposed to AI but he does dislike AI art more openly.
Techbros will use AI to code more efficiently, especially ones that work as devs. AI is so built into normal dev work nowadays because it is kind of helpful in that area no matter how much people dislike it. You've got ai assisted code editors, plugins etc. That's why you'll be hard pressed to find someone in this field that is staunchly against AI. Kyle is too naive and optimistic but this opinion is apparently a year old so I'm not sure why it suddenly became important.

No. 2206538

>>2206178
Just woke up, so I will read it after, but to be honest I don't know why people are surprised, Kyle is already a cryptobro (as he accepts crypto for Neocities payments). I have been meaning to get my own domain and host ever since I started om NC because it, so I guess I will sped up my move.

People over-simplify the whole issue with AI though (it can be useful tool), and why did art even become the worst victim of it? I dislike AI art when it's on something I have to pay (like movies or games, if they didn't had to pay for a writer/artist, why do I have to pay them to view the slop?) but the actual harmful use is all the deepfakes and scams they're generating, drawings are jist a nuisance compared to that.

No. 2206613

>>2206538
>>2206178
What you except from Kyle Drake at this point? Neocities is good enough for simple sites but he didn't make crucial parts of UI better and more intuitive. Instead allowing to upload folders in uploader we got clean URLs which is just cosmetic. Or it took him ages to add simple confirmation for deleting statuses. Instead making site better he's playing with AI or he cared about his geocities archive more (I'll give him, restorativland is best archive just to casually browse due to previews in indices)

No. 2206753

>>2206178
Kyle can have his own opinion as long as he doesn't sell data to train models or something. I hate AI too, but the trans Miku crowd can never think for themselves.

No. 2206755

>>2206458
nayrt but maybe the fact ai steals from actual artists in order to be able to create "ai art"? Maybe you are too busy sucking ai bro dicks to understand how this affects the small humans

No. 2206803

>>2206755
NTA but to be honest AI art is the lesser of AI issues. Does it suck? Yeah, but it's nothing compared to AI-generated child porn, deepfakes, fake information, crime videos of innocent people, etc.
Some random person posting AI hallucinations of Miku is preferable than all of the above, and isn't like people didn't take stuff from artists before (from tracing to aesthetic collages)

No. 2206828

>>2206803
Oh definitely. Imo ai in itself isnt bad, the people who use it for the wrong reasons are

No. 2206943

>>2206178
Kyle made a mistake adding status updates to the global activity feed. The blog post is old boring news, but the new global feed makes it easy for one person's freakout to infect the whole site.

No. 2206991

>>2206943
I agree, it’s getting completely blown out of proportion. I’m also betting nekoweb will cease to exist within the next year and everyone that made good on their promise to leave neocities will be crawling back.

No. 2206992

>>2206943
That is true, in the past you only relied on your follows.

No. 2207073

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I was wondering how this whole deal even started, of course it stems from twitter retards

No. 2207138

>>2207073
The more I think about it, the better it is that this blog is circling around. It’s about to clear some tards out of the feed.

No. 2207204

>>2207138
Same. It's just a blog post on his personal website if his opinion, it wasn't a Neocities update or a future plan for it. They automatically see "Kyle Drake supports AI" without reading the year old blog post and assume that means Neocities will implement AI.

No. 2207248

>>2206991
I don't even know why people even trust Nekoweb, that site is hold with tape and the same goes for its team. If they want some free hosting they should go to FC2, you need a FTP program to upload things easily there, but it's way more reliable than whatever host these kids made.

>>2207204
While NC's purpose is to be a web host, it's also that guy's personal project so I can see why some people would want to move out not wanting to be a part of it. While the CEO/team of bigger web hosts probably hold similar values, at least they're fully impersonal.
For me, I'm glad it happened so I have another excuse to finally move my ass and pay for a domain and space on am actual host, AI and crypto aren't my liking.

No. 2207346

>>2207138
This. I really hope they all leave to nekoweb.

No. 2207484

>>2207248
hasn't the owner had multiple meltdowns this year? i swear the server almost imploded on itself. not to mention doko was originally involved and then split from the team in a huge breakup scandal mess.

No. 2207669

>>2206504
I really wonder if the people sperging about this understand just how much tech-related fields have embraced AI. It's already being added to computer science curricula and web development workflows as the hot new thing. This is not very controversial to the tech world. It must be so weird to be Kyle. Imagine being a normie tech bro who cultivated a userbase of zoomers who are loudly boycotting your free service because of your mundane, industry-safe opinon, a whole year after you posted it.
>>2206991
I'm surprised Nekoweb is still functioning. I kind of hope it does stay up as a containment zone.

No. 2207675

>>2207669
>It's already being added to computer science curricula and web development workflows as the hot new thing
Even funnier, machine learning has been in the computer science curriculum since the 60's, but its popular applied uses up until the past few years have mostly been in translation and speech generation which nobody cared to see as unethical. It's really not a surprise as to why an artistically challenged techbro would find ai art beautiful and inspiring kek.

>>2207484
All I know is that doko and dimden had a spat which ended up with doko excluding herself from the project with the rest carrying on fine. I really am glad they're becoming the main spot for twittertards because these people see website hosts as "platforms" and they'll barely venture out of nekoweb if they made their site on there.

No. 2207701

>>2207675
kek what did she and dimden have a spat about?

No. 2207714

File: 1728975683555.jpg (47.51 KB, 1123x156, nekoweb drama.jpg)

>>2207701
I wasn't involved in this at all so I'm going off previous posts in these threads, such as this one >>1908227. Pic related is full resolution. It seems they were arguing about dumb bullshit, not a lot of context but it ended up with doko being super passive aggressive to everyone before leaving >>1908473. From all the posts in that server regarding Doko she comes across as a sensitive little child that needs to be handled with kid gloves, definitely not someone you can work on a project with kek.

No. 2207856

>>2207714
she is more sensitive and passive-aggressive than a 14 year old girl

No. 2208363

>>2207714
>>2207856
As someone who’s had the displeasure of having a one on one conversation with doko, it’s as unpleasant as you might think.

No. 2208824

>>2207714
yeah, she's impossible to work with on anything., or even be around. friends drop off of her like flies because no-one can stand to be around her for very long.

No. 2208943

>>2208363
>>2208824
Speaking of doko, does she still have a discord server or did that implode?

No. 2209211

>>2208943
It existed as recently as a few months ago but doko is extremely suspicious of anyone joining

No. 2209223

>>2209211
Suspicious of what?

No. 2209226

File: 1729058686589.jpg (69.05 KB, 925x557, doko4chan.jpg)

>>2209223
She's extremely scared of getting raided in any way, probably LC and general drama related. It's good to be suspicious of newcomers but I don't understand why their discord is open to everyone then and not invite only.

Some thread tax of her simping for 4chan.

No. 2209228

>>2209226
>Some thread tax of her simping for 4chan.
Ugh, I remember that. All of the smug trannies came out of the woodwork to agree. It's funny they'll support 4chan but shit bricks and cry at the mention of kiwi farms.

No. 2209234

>>2209226
I always wondered why Doko was so suspicious of others and paranoid even though she makes her discord link public. I guess that’s why

No. 2209424

>>2209226
The way doko talks about 4chan makes me think she doesn't actually use it. I wonder if these types of tifs think that if they larp as a 4channer they will pass as male. She's obsessed with cutesy video games and sewed clothes for her custom husbando doll so good luck to her I guess.

No. 2209439

>>2209226
Even the "gay" boards on 4chan are full of men using the N word and "Jew" as a pejorative, but okay.

No. 2209560

>>2209226
3 porn boards and a tranny containment board. Very progressive dokodemo.

No. 2210212

>>2209424
she used to say she hated 4chan before it become trendy among TIFs to pretend you use it. she really enjoys trendhopping while pretending she hates people who trendhop.

>>2209234
it has to do with the cake or whatever her name was situation. she's not just vaguely scared of raids, she's acted like a paranoid schizophrenic since that drama specifically happened. i don't know if the neocities-specific discord she ran is still around, but the one she had at the time was briefly turned invite-only because of it. though that was partially due to her trying to wipe her pedo friend's behavior and her original acknowledgement of the situation off of the server before more people joined and got screenshots.

she was not this intense level of paranoid before that whole thing happened, but she has always acted like a skittish, passive-aggressive preteen.

No. 2210370

>>2210212
this tracks, her profile has been off since the dreamie drama lmao. very heckin dude of her

No. 2210629

>>2209211
Thanks anon, was wondering if it was still around since we never seem to get any milk from there. Is it a pretty big server?

No. 2211008

>>2210212
Whatever happened to Cakie, is she still on that "I'm a non-offending pedo, I can't help it" cope? I know she was a minor but the logs leaked mentioned her admitting to using an actual support forum for pedos with simulated CP on it, that's fucking sick.

No. 2211115

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>>2211008
She was a legit sicko

No. 2211120

>>2211115
The way pedos tie themselves into knots to explain why they totally aren't evil and everyone else are the crazy ones is so funny in a bleak way.

No. 2211249

>>2211008
AYRT, 1) she was not a minor. she started claiming she was after the drama, before that she called herself an adult repeatedly. she later claimed to be a "mentally ill 15/16yo" at the time of the messages in a previous self-post, but if you follow her own timeline of her going through "three years of therapy" now and being "better," that doesn't make sense. the leaked messages are from 2022 i believe, she was at least 18 at the time and still talking about wanting to assault children. >>>/ot/1653991

2) that actually is not the worst part, neither is the other screenshot shared. she had a "crush" on her nine-year-old neighbor and was regularly interacting with her and in the process of trying to groom her. she would regularly share her sexual fantasies about this child with suni, who regularly enabled her. with archive.org down the dumbass callout website with the screenshots is down but you can see it mentioned her by another farmer: >>>/ot/1360801

No. 2211261

>>2211115
That's Suni in these screenshots, just to clarify. Actively egging on a pedophile and encouraging her to talk about her sexual feelings about children. Which she never shared until her and Cakie got into a disagreement about Neocities months later, so it was not her trying to expose this behavior, she was encouraging it.

No. 2211411

There was a call out site about Suni in 2023.

https://archive.md/DeJTp

No. 2211431

>>2211115
there is no way this a woman and not a tranny

No. 2211534

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>>2211249
I was never in that server, so I took it at face value when she claimed she was a minor, since teenagers can be pedos for younger children too. I don't know why she bothered lying, CSA committed by teenagers on children is more common than you'd think. It's still abuse.

>>2211261
I thought she was asking questions to incriminate her, but I looked at the archived callout site and her confession to being a pedo in DMs was in April, but the more graphic conversations about playing lolicon games and seeing real CP were later in June and October. I bet Suni was okay with it and only came out about it because of some other beef.

No. 2211562

>>2211534
you weren't in the server so you didn't see it go down, but yes it was specifically because they got into a huge argument that led to suni outing cakie as revenge. i don't think we know what exactly the beef was, but cakie either left or was kicked (a big deal because she was essentially head moderator underneath suni due to them being so close), and then shortly afterwards suni dumped the screenshots in the server and some sort of excuse for why she didn't tell anyone.

keep in mind, this was a server with a ton of minors that cakie was allowed to moderate for at least one full year, if not closer to two, after the original "i'm a pedophile" message here. suni let her self-admitted pedophile friend not just have access to a server full of minors, but be in a position of power over them, for a year minimum.

based on her callout post, she's a pedo too, so it checks out. from someone who was there at the time and watched how they interacted, it seemed to me like they would enable each other and excuse each other's behavior at first with "oh well we're seventeen so we can't be pedophiles!" of course, that excuse stopped working when they stopped being seventeen, and you can see the discussions about it get more extreme as they stop trying to excuse it. also important to keep in mind that suni only showed us what made her look good, and even what made her look good in her own eyes is her enabling a pedo.

>>2211431
she started talking about her period and how she wishes she didn't have one when she self-posted, which ironically smelled even more troon-y to me. like a moid playing a caricature of a period-hating woman.

No. 2211576

>>2211562
Did anyone even question the amount of time that took place between the confession and other DMs? Even as an onlooker, that's suspicious to me. Like she had this friend who would randomly talk to her about cartoon CP and how she's "non-offending" (while interacting with a real life child "crush") for a year, and was totally fine for some reason. Same with the "idk if you're secretly a pedo or not", what about Suni made her pedo-dar (kek) go off. Birds of a feather flock together.

No. 2212642

>>2211576
weirdly, no, not anyone i saw. suni pulled an "i was too scared to tell anyone" sort of victim card at the time and because she had one of the biggest sites on neocities at the time, i guess no-one wanted to get on her bad side? i actually remember her freaking out at anyone who asked more questions about it and calling it victim-blaming if you pointed out she shouldn't have hidden this for literal years. i think she lost a friend or two over it (there was some pompompurin-themed blog i remember slowly stopped associating wit her so publicly over it despite them previously being close, don't remember the blog name) but there were essentially no repercussions for obvious pedo-enabling.

the roxelle callout website was made by dreamie and the criticism of suni for this situation on neocities at the time was spear-headed by dreamie, so i can see how that would have put people off or made people not think it was a big deal. she also pulled shipping drama into it and i'm sure that made it seem like she was only talking about fictional things, which could have made people think that's all it was and not suni encouraging her best friend to groom a real-life child. everything between suni and dreamie was incredibly volatile too, so maybe people just wanted to stay away from it entirely. unfortunate case of "worst person you know is technically correct but handling it in the worst way possible and now no-one cares."

as for what made cakie's pedo-dar go off and feel safe telling suni, i'm near-positive they used to share cartoon CP with each other. given that they're both into it and cakie felt so comfortable talking about it with suni, the jump from "we both like cartoon CP" to "i feel safe telling you i like actual CP" makes total sense to me.

No. 2214041

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>>2211115
Picrel is not NSFW, just… unsettling. And lowrez. Sorry not sorry.
For anyone interested, the "Unteralterbach" mentioned is a Krautchan visual novel where little girls aged 8-9 consent to kinky sex with an adult NEET protagonist. All the other adults are elther le heckin based fellow pedophiles or ugly moralfags ruining their kids' sex lives… because in this world, child porn is created FOR children. The game's basic assertion is that children are fully autonomous sexual creatures who don't need adult protection, that adults who try to protect children are stupid hypocrites making everything worse, and the best ending for everyone— especially the kids!— is laissez-faire degeneracy. You cannot make this shit up. I read some deranged scrote's review to get a plot summary and that alone made me want to crawl out of my skin. The only person who, unprompted, wishes for a world like that of Unteralterbach is a full blown pedo who is not just interested in raping children, but doing so repeatedly and getting away with the crime.
The DMs cut off, but I'm sure Cakie went on to explain what this game is about. I wonder if Doko played it herself after their convo? I don't usually believe in guilt by association, but I have no idea how you could maintain 6+ months of friendship with someone who keeps espousing their love of child abuse unless you're an aspiring abuser yourself.

No. 2214044

>>2214041
Not sure what this is about, but four of the girls in this game are also based on real life little girls (specifically the twins, Laura and the blonde with short hair) and there's some rumors that some of the games sex scenes were traced off cp

No. 2214050

File: 1729371564776.jpeg (Spoiler Image,510.13 KB, 750x459, IMG_5552.jpeg)

>>2214041
Excerpt from the scrote review. You can find the whole thing on VNDB if you're curious but be warned, the way he describes the heroines is legitimately disgusting. The version on his website also has screenshots. I didn't scroll far enough to see everything he included so… click at your own risk. I saw one screencap of a girl flirting with the protagonist and I wanted to throw up. I've had enough now kek.

No. 2214548

>>2214041
that is actually legitimately revolting good lord

No. 2214643

>>2214041
This is why I don't trust the self-proclaimed "non-offending pedophiles" who "don't consume real CP but cope with fiction" - 99% of the "fiction" is propaganda made by someone with a criminal history. Even in the leaked DMs Cakie notes that the theme song is sung by a real child, which is pushing the "just fiction" excuse by involving a real kid in a porn game. Suni is complicit for not exposing Cakie on the spot for confessing that.

No. 2214674

>>2214643
>This is why I don't trust the self-proclaimed "non-offending pedophiles"
Anyone who self-identifies as a pedophile, non-offending or not, is a molester in the making. It takes a lack of self-awareness that only shows up in irrational individuals to commit social suicide that way.

No. 2214803

>>2214674
I mean, I didn't doubt that, I just especially distrust the self-identified "non-offenders" because they're always lying and offend in different ways ("non-contact" sexual abuse is a thing) and expect asspats for not being a rapist - yet.

No. 2214807

>>2211431
Yeah, i have my doubts. Unteralterbach is popular with pedotroons. To be fair, you do come across female pedos who aren't attention seeking liars every now and then, so it's possible this is an actual woman, or an extremely groomed teenage girl

No. 2214938

>>2214807
groomed or not, there's no excuse for actively trying to groom a nine-year-old little girl. i don't see a reason to speculate on whether or not a pedophile was groomed herself. there's also lots of other reasons to think cakie is a troon, like her talking repeatedly about "gender struggles" and hanging out with other troons.

No. 2214951

>>2214938
I don't think her/him being a teenager or "groomed" is an excuse. Teenagers can still be pedophiles and abuse younger children, and Cakie was close to doing that with her/his 9 year old "crush". That was intentional behavior, no one forced Cakie to interact with children in real life and join pedophile forums with simulated CP on them.

No. 2230277

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Vivarism updated her old site after two years

No. 2230940

>>2230277
Okay, and….?

No. 2231048

>>2230940
NTA but I guess it's kind of a random thread bump, we have been so dry ob milk lately kek
Have people really moved away from NC after finding out about the AI blog post? I saw many goodbye posts during that week but no one I'm following moved out so I'm not sure how big the migration was. If all those terminally online users stepped away from NC it would explain why it has been calmer lately.

No. 2231062

>>2150117
Grandma is well. She's spending more time playing video games and less time sh*tposting these days. She moved her short stories to AO3 and will shut down her current site when the hosting expires.

No. 2231094

To clarify something that was said earlier in the thread: Grandma wasn't banned outright from 32BC. She was shadow banned, meaning she could use DMs to talk to her friends, but she couldn't post in the open forum. That would've been pointless, as she already corresponded with her personal Web friends by e-mail.(selfposting)

No. 2231107

>>2198852
>Everything about her just screams HR retard

Grandma called Alexandra out as an HR worker when she got shadow banned from 32BC because of all the HR terminology Alexandra used.

No. 2231669

>>2231062
Kek that's too bad. I actually enjoyed reading her website despite our differences in opinion. One less non-tranny woman in the personal website sphere, sad.

No. 2231898

>>2231669
Same. She skews more conservative and male-positive than I do but she still had a sense of humor that I enjoyed reading.

No. 2232249

>>2231048
I think a few people have. I've not really updated since it came out either, but for unrelated reasons (hating the social media feed aspect of the site) I've been thinking of finding a new host and redirecting off.

Unrelated, but Flonne recently dropped the fact she's a farmer/reads the cow threads on here… I wonder how long until people start the "evul terf dont interact with her" sperg again kek

No. 2232377

>>2232249
why are you basically directing them to harass her by pointing it out?

No. 2232423

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No. 2232817

>>2232377
…hasn't she said she doesn't care about what those tards say anyway? one of the gendies would've pointed it out eventually given that it's front and center in her new blog post.

No. 2232848

>>2232249
>Flonne recently dropped the fact she's a farmer/reads the cow threads on here…
She did it before so I don't think it'll change anything

No. 2232977

>>2232249
I moved to a new host and it's nice, I really like being able to use php and have custom domains. Looked up a small host with Cpanel integrated as I'm kinda illiterate when it comes to tech and the moving was so smooth and easy. I recoment either Tea Cake or Leprd (I'm using one of these) when they open slots again, though I'm not sure if they accept terfy stuff in case you got that on your site.

Weirdly, it seems to have broken the webrings I joined that use onion ring scrip though… Someone else on that host also has a broken onion ring widget on their site, so I wonder if it's a problem on our host's part for whatever reason. I ended up making a fake widget to link to the rings + 2 members.

No. 2232985

>>2232249
She links to LC and CC on her old sites and links to the husbando threads in her yume resources. It's never been a secret, Neocities users just can't read.

No. 2233076

>>2232985
Exactly, they never read beyond the front page of a website, especially if it's aesthetically cute.

No. 2233350

>>2232977
Re: webrings, at your new host, do you have the same domain? If you move from a .neocities.org to a plain .net or something, then the webring will still be attached to the neocities domain and not your new one. You need to update your information with the webring owner. Or just make fake widgets! That's a pretty clever solution. Great job.

No. 2235627

>>2233350
It was fixed! Looks like the owner just forgot to update my name on the .js file as well as on the main page (just changed the later).
When I asked the owner for the update and it didn't work, along with seeing someone with a broken widget, I just assumed there was something going on.

No. 2235755

>>2232977
The onionring widget is sensitive to trailing slashes in URLs. If you don't spell your site URL in the widget code exactly as it's spelled in the site list, it won't work.

I wrote a PHP script that fetches the two JavaScript files from the webring hub and rewrites them before sending them to the visitor's browser.

No. 2235757

>>2235755
I should add that one webring admin went to my site and copied the URL from the address bar in their browser instead of listing my site with the URL I registered with. So you'll want to look out for that too.

No. 2235768

>>2232985
It's great that she's a farmer but why, just why? It could lead a wave of newfags here

No. 2235783

>>2235755
Yeah look the post before yours, luckily it was just a slip by the mod.
Kind of unrelated, but why are there so little info on how to make your own RSS feeds manually for websites? It was super simple in the end & got mine running fine, but everywhere I looked they just wrote tutorials on how to make automatic ones for blogs, wordpress and such.

No. 2235786

>>2235768
I really doubt a mention on a personal website is going to cause worse damage to this place than tiktok and twitter already have.

No. 2235787

>>2235768
Neocities and personal sites in general are so niche that I think it's reasonable to share places like lc on them, especially when not done in an obnoxious manner.

No. 2235796

>>2235783
I just read the RSS specification to see what tags the feed should contain and wrote a script that fills in the tag content. If your site uses a CMS, just fetch the fields from the database. For static HTML sites, you can use DOM/XPath or CSS selectors to grab the contents of the title and article tags and so forth. It depends a lot on how your site is built. That's probably why most tutorials focus on commonly used blogging software.

No. 2236169

>>2235768
This site is crawling with newfags from Twitter and Tiktok already. Like the last anon said, people on Neocities tend to follow sites that look cute and barely read any content longer than a sentence anyway.

No. 2237699

How far can ChatGPT take me? I will eventually learn how to do everything on my own but right now it's taking too long and I just want to get started already and go along from there. Should I even use it or will it stunt my learning somehow if i get too dependant on it?

No. 2237721

>>2237699
can you not find any premade layouts for things you like and tweak them from there?

No. 2237728


No. 2237731

>>2237699
What is it you're trying to learn?

No. 2237739

>>2237721
I forgot about premade layouts, I guess that's a better option then.
>>2237728
I'm not lazy I swear.
>>2237731
HTML and CSS. I know very little about coding and only just started to understand things like a month ago kek.

No. 2237743

>>2237699
i made mine with gpt help, i made it mobile phone compatible too. its just tutoring for coding nonni, it wont steal your soul

No. 2237746

>>2237739
if you can't learn css without ai then I'm sorry but the other anon is right. you truly are ngmi.

No. 2237750

>>2237699
just steal the code of any site you like and start modifying it from there

No. 2237755

>>2237739
There are so many free HTML and css courses on the internet, it's not difficult.

No. 2237756

>>2237699
If you just want a quick site for the sake of it, go for it or premade layouts (the later will probably me more comprehensive, people usually write notes of the code itself so you know what to and how to edit it).
If you want to learn to code, using it is retarded, it's the equivalent of wanting to learn how to cook and then ordering takeaway instead of making the meal yourself.

Learning HTML/CSS is super easy, just go bit by bit and coding along tutorials. Don't focus on making a gigantic website all responsive with cool effects as your first site, start smaĺl.
The other day I made a super simple shrine that was basically a centered text file (a single div with images and text) and a bunch of people told me how nice it looked, the colors, graphics and font you use often matter more than how complex the layout/code is.

If you have any specific question aside from "wah wah it's hard", I'm more than happy to help. I made my first steps with HTMLDog's tutorials and I found them very easy to understand.

No. 2237762

>>2237743
>>2237750
kek thank you
>>2237755
>>2237746
I'm just getting started nonnas and I do want to learn everything in depth properly but I'm just too excited to make something that I had in mind for a long time and I can't hold it in anymore kek
>>2237756
I have been using that site to learn and it does look easy from what I've seen so far. I forget everything quickly though so I need to practice coding more, if that's even a thing maybe I'm just retarded. Thank you though

No. 2237767

>>2237762
anon, most of us are active to various degrees in this community because it's the one of only online places left that doesn't provide this sort of immediate gratification. building a personal site requires a bit of effort and creativity to forge your little place on the net.
while I can understand your attitude may be rooted in excitement as opposed to laziness; respectfully you can go back on insta or xitter with that kind of attitude. rip code from other sources and experiment until you get the results you want: it's called learning.

No. 2237773

>>2237762
>I forget everything quickly though so I need to practice coding more,
That's completely normal, don't worry nona. I tend to forget stuff as well, specially if I haven't coded in awhile.
Do you use any specific code editor? I use Brackets and it's super useful because after you write a tag it shows a dropdown with the possible variables it can have, and with its live preview it makes it super easy to play around. I believe the dropdown thing is pretty much a standard on every code editor though.
I also like to have a base HTML and CSS files with the basics of pages (The standard html/style/body tags for HTML one and the body/anchor/italics/etc tags on the CSS one) that way I already have a bit of the work done every time I want to make a new page, it makes the workflow easier.

No. 2237824

>>2237767
Kek I understand. I apologize for sounding like an ADHD zoomie but I do actually plan on learning everything properly. Not to blogpost but it's one of the few things that I've had an interest in in a really long time so I think I'm motivated enough. The page I want to make right now is more of an itch that I want to get rid of, if that makes sense sorry I'm ESL.
>>2237773
Nope, just playing around with the notepad using cheat sheets trying to figure out how everything works. I should probably use an editor though. Thanks for the tips nonnie.

No. 2237963

>>2237824
Try visual studio code and an extension which allows you to view html changes in real time. But seriously, try to make your own crappy html webpages with your own graphics, even if they come from premade layouts. It's fun, I promise.

No. 2238025

>>2237824
nona, if you jump straight in with chatgpt you're gonna be using it like a crutch and stunt your ability to learn until you drop it. genuinely, it's not worth even starting with ai for stuff like this. like the others have said, study the code from sites you like, fiddle with f2u premade layouts and look up guides and resources.

No. 2238076

>>2237699
ChatGPT honestly does not code very well. Maybe something like Copilot is better, idk but ChatGPT usually spits out code that either needs a lot of debugging (defeating the point of generating it) or is just badly structured and written. To be fair, a lot of Neocities users also have poorly written code, but if you don't know what you're doing, you could end up worse off using ChatGPT because you don't have the foundational skills to know when it's giving you 6 lines that should just be 1, when it offers an outdated way to solve a problem, or how to spot when it nestles divs incorrectly. I actually think you would end up more frustrated that way than just using premade layouts and tweaking them from there.

No. 2238275

>>2238076
Copilot codes like shit as well kek At least stuff like JS, my friend googled how to do something and Copilot poped out and gave her the most stupid string ever (I don't remember it, but it was something like "false; false; false" repeating over 100 times).

In the end of the day, the first Stack Exchange result that shows up tend to give you a better solution and cleaner code. Specially for begginer, as you said AI code needs lots of clean up and for someone new it's best to give them the most simple code so they understand it fully.

No. 2238310

>>2238275
AI stuff can be helpful with small snippets and if you want it to actually do something coherent you have to go full proompter mode and spend more time on perfecting the code with prompts than actually writing it yourself. It can be useful in explaining certain things through code, like if you wanted a css animation that works in a super specific way for example.
You can also use chatgpt to explain you code which is what I think could actually be of use to a beginner. If there's a snippet you just can't wrap your head around it's like your personal stack overflow but at that point that's just glorified google.

No. 2238375

How long did it take for you guise to get the hang of CSS? I'm kind of a retard so I'm trying to not get discouraged but I'm making it further than I thought I would

No. 2238395

>>2238375
Literally one day. The only issue is positioning and sizing since you have ti experiment with numbers until something sticks.

No. 2238413

>>2238395
>The only issue is positioning and sizing since you have ti experiment with numbers until something sticks
This is the exact issue I'm having. I'm also struggling to arrange divs and it's embarrassing kek.

No. 2238448

>>2238413
NTA but remember everything is boxes. Make a big box and position it centered, then inside that box make 2 or 3 ones and use flexbox or in-line to make them side by side, then inside one of them make more divs and so on.
Try using inspect element on any website, it makes it very clear to see how pages are structured. Look into flexbox or CSS grids if you want to make divs to be side by side rather than on top of eachother.
Putting this at the start of your CSS file might help as well if you want precise div sizing, as it makes elements take padding and margin into account (ie normally if you make a 500px div with 10px padding, the final box will be 510px in width rather than 500, but this fixes it)

* {box-sizing: border-box}

No. 2239114

File: 1730749678898.jpeg (123.52 KB, 720x540, IMG_5742.jpeg)

>>2238395
CSS is a highly complex language. It is continually evolving. I believe that someone could get the basics down in one day… Like "oh okay, rule colon value semicolon inside the squiggly brackets!" But to grasp its nuances, limits, capabilities, best practices, and beauty, you need months and years of experience. And CSS knowledge alone doesn't guarantee a well-designed or interesting webpage. It's normal to struggle as we improve. It's normal for things to take time. I can only guess at your motivations for bragging that you got it down in just one day. I'm not holding it against you. I just want to give beginners more realistic projections of their learning journey. It's not a race, right?
>>2238375
I consider myself highly skilled at CSS. I've been working with it in some capacity for about 8 years. I'm entirely self-taught. When I started making my own websites from scratch, it took me two or three tries, spanning 1-2 months, to build a decent foundation. I designed dozens of garbage pages and spent hours troubleshooting my cringefail code. It was fun though. I found myself troubleshooting less and writing more— still with references and resources at hand— after about a year, or a year and a half. After another year of experience, I'd say I was very capable. Now, after ~5 years of making websites, I'd say I'm a master. There's still tons that I don't know. My work isn't perfect. But now I grasp new things in a single day. I needed all those months and years of practice to get here.
I only got here because I never rush my learning. It's normal to get frustrated. Even now, I have moments where I just gotta give up and go to bed. You will always need references, tutorials, and random StackExchange posts to guide you. Some things you can memorize, but why pressure yourself to have it all in your brain? It could more easily be in a pinned W3Schools tab. Maybe it would help to remember that CSS is a language unto itself. Would you expect to be fluent in Spanish or French after a week of self-teaching? And when you make websites, you're learning a handful of other things alongside CSS. HTML, web/graphic design, writing, drawing, image manipulation, maybe some Javascript or JQuery. Hell, you even have to learn your chosen code editor and decide how to structure your files. All that saps your brainpower, too.
To anyone who's getting frustrated: take a break. Remember that it's difficult to learn new skills. Remember why you're working so hard to learn things anyway. Don't go back to working until you come up with a reason that excites you. And as basic as it sounds, you just gotta take time away from the computer. Some of my biggest CSS and design issues I solved in the shower, or in a dream.

>tldr

1 year to get the hang of it. 2 years to be good at it. 5 years to master it. Keep going everynonny. You can do this!

No. 2239178

>>2239114
First ayrt, I took a course in web designing for uni and made some assignments and a course project using it along with HTML and JavaScript. It was by far the easiest thing to do. JavaScript was the true evil.

No. 2239210

>>2239114
>Some of my biggest CSS and design issues I solved in the shower, or in a dream.
This is so true kek
The other day I couldn't get this thing to work (just a small aesthetic thing, not important for the page itself) and I was pulling my hair because god everything was correct, there's no reason of why it keeps failing to load.
Then while sleeping that night, my brain went "Webpages read sheets from top to bottom. You're overwritting the effect since you put it before the other div style with the same effect but different variable on the sheet".
It was such a silly error, sometimes that stuff happens.

No. 2240148

>>2238448
Thank you, you put it in plainer terms than most tutorial videos that only overcomplicate things. I was trying to use floats and it made me want to hang myself.
>>2239114
And thank you too nona, these are all very good suggestions. This made me feel hopeful. I have the tendency to abandon things if I'm not immediately good at them but this is something I really, really want to learn.
>I only got here because I never rush my learning. It's normal to get frustrated. Even now, I have moments where I just gotta give up and go to bed.
>Some things you can memorize, but why pressure yourself to have it all in your brain?
This is what I'm trying to internalize, I suffer from imposter syndrome - if I can't recall every rule from memory or solve logical problems in under ten minutes then I'm clearly a fraud and should just give up.
>Some of my biggest CSS and design issues I solved in the shower, or in a dream.
Kek funny how that is, sometimes things just don't click for me until I'm half asleep, deep in my thoughts.

No. 2240214

>>2239114
CSS is not a language.

No. 2240216

>>2240214
Lol let her have her humblebrag moment

No. 2240290

>>2240148
Those videos must hate their viewers if they told them to position stuff using float kek
(It can be useful, but it's better and more secure to do so in other ways. Leave floats for putting images on text).

No. 2240332

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No. 2240939

>>2237699
Anon who asked this. I concede.. ChatGPT is actually retarded kek. It seems allergic to keeping its hand off my code for things that I didn't ask it to change and I had to ask it not to do that everytime. It's been like two days and I've already given up on it. I did find it useful for asking questions though but it was very frustrating to deal with for writing codes. I've moved on to using premade layouts and while I couldn't find what I had in mind exactly, I think that's a good thing. Now I just have to work a little harder to find out how to make what I want on my own while still not needing to do everything from scratch. I'm still exploring all the possibilities and the limits of what I can do but yeah
>>2237963
>>2238025
>>2238076
Sorry for the late reply but thank you nonas. I'm using visual studio code right now and trying to read different guides. I'm actually surprised by how many simple guides there are out there, it's been somewhat easy and very fun.

No. 2241025

File: 1730831478642.jpg (450.05 KB, 1531x2563, flex-justify.jpg)

>>2240332
I'm guessing ayrt assumed she meant "programming language," which is a common misconception about both HTML and CSS. You're right that it's a (well, the only) style sheet language, but colloquially, it's rarely referred to in those terms. Just like people seldom call HTML, Markdown, BBCode, or SVGs languages even though they all technically qualify.
>>2238375
CSS is very simple to get started with, but takes a lot longer to master. Saw you mention that you were trying to use floats in >>2240148 which is a good segue into my advice for you. Focus on modern CSS, use reputable learning sources, and get a good handle on when to use things (for example, float is useful if you want text to wrap around an image, but not for actual element positioning). If your primary concern is how to actually structure a webpage (vs the easy stuff, like setting background colors), you'll want to focus on flexbox and grid, like the other anon said. You will resolve 99% of your positioning problems if you can grasp these concepts. I often return to https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/ when I need a refresher. Also, if your code has a ton of absolute positioning and precise pixels (ie position absolute set to -134.5px), just know it will probably look bad on different displays and there's almost always a better way to be doing whatever it is you're trying to accomplish. You also can use units aside from px, like em and %, or even vh/vw. Basically, play around with concepts you're unfamiliar with and see what's out there. CSS has come a long way and has changed a lot even just within the last few years. A lot of things people used to struggle with now have very elegant solutions if you can find them.

No. 2241904

Do you ever see posts in this thread or sometimes even other threads and know exactly which website owners posted it

No. 2241970

>>2241904
all the gd time kek

No. 2242769

>>2241904
Lol. Name names if they're tourists.

No. 2242870

>>2242769
I’ve mostly noticed website owners who are known farmers and have identifiable typing styles or post about topics often discussed in their websites. Like vivarism or tabatinga for example

No. 2245176

>>2242870
I still kek over tabatinga's schizo rant and obsession with vivarism. I wonder where she went after being exposed.

No. 2245246

>>2241904
all the time and then i wonder if anyone can recognize me

No. 2245914

>>2241904
No, but I desperately want nonnies to find my site.

No. 2245939

>>2245176
I wish her bitter ass would come back, her deranged blogs were fun to read. She's perpetually seething, probably even to this day. I wonder if she managed to make irl friends like she wanted or if she fucked it up again.

No. 2246478

>>2245176
>>2245939
kek I’ve definitely seen her posting on other threads since then. I’ve seen her post her art
>>2245246
I wonder the same thing. I don’t think anyone knows I post here so it is amusing when I see my site being mentioned
>>2245914
You could always post hints here like past nonas have done to get their site found by others. That or you can join some of the web rings that are popular in this thread and interact with the members.

No. 2246860

>>2241904
I hope no one except my fellow farmers know when it's me posting here, I don't think you could immediately clock me as a farmer just looking at my site. I can definitely recognize some others though.

No. 2247076

>>2245914
LC-specific references and inside jokes work very well as dogwhistles. Nobody provide examples for our tourists kek

No. 2247335

File: 1730944673719.png (257.86 KB, 1012x1326, electoralspergage.png)

Anyone else enjoying the post election neocities melties?

No. 2247365

>>2245939
The way she would openly shit talk people she knew or affiliated with in her blog was hilariously dumb. She was so convinced Discord was somehow the root of all evil when it was really her toxic behavior that made it difficult to have friends online. She also joined some weird furry webring created by a zoophile before she deleted her site, but I lost the link.

>>2246478
>I’ve seen her post her art
Which thread?

No. 2247432

>>2247365
I forgot which specific thread but it was an art sharing or art critique thread. Maybe in /m/.

No. 2247515

>>2247335
Honestly, no. Although they (people in your screenshot) are cringy, it’s a response to witnessing a country prioritizing their hatred for women over…not choosing a felon.

No. 2247553

>>2247515
speaking of obvious neocities website owners… kek

No. 2247639

File: 1730953627231.png (107.63 KB, 1538x492, 1723936385795.png)

Has anyone seen this neocities petition site? They’re collecting signatures in a google form to send to kyle drake in protest of the AI blog he wrote. I can’t imagine how kyle drake will react seeing this sent to him

No. 2247726

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>>2247639
I wonder if it’s being run by the gross owlmoid.

No. 2247924

>>2247335
Depends, if they're trannies it's funny (nooo they're deadnaming me, time to occupy another country kek) but for women I do feel bad for them. Not a burger so I'm not very knowledgable on what's happening, but from what I have heard on the radio Trump's campaign seems everything but right, hope you all survive these 4 years.
It's gonna suck but it will pass, I think people are forgetting this isn't forever.

No. 2248062

How does style selection like the one on lolcow work?

No. 2248115

>>2248062
Do you mean being able to change a theme/layout with a dropdown? If so, it's done with some JS, here's a tutorial on it
https://www.studytonight.com/post/build-a-theme-switcher-for-your-website-with-javascript

No. 2248448

>>2248115
That's exactly what I meant. Thank you so much.

No. 2252928

File: 1731190400530.png (75.86 KB, 1076x603, Screenshot from 2024-11-09 16-…)

>>2248115
Always have a default theme loaded, and have that theme selected in the dropdown. One could elaborate by setting a cookie to remember the visitor's last choice. This code will work in all browsers.

No. 2252934

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>>2252928
I can't type. kek

No. 2254833

File: 1731283796361.png (168.17 KB, 1023x280, Tabatinga is tabalive.png)

>Apparently I had an impersonator

Nice save.

No. 2254961

>>2254833
nice find, anon. whats her new url?

No. 2255056

>>2254833
Kekkk what a liar

No. 2255305

>>2254833
This is straight up some "it wasn't me, it was my younger sibling" bullshit that kids pull when they get banned in online games kek

No. 2255588

>>2254833
"I had an impersonator. They managed to trick everyone into thinking it was me by writing anime villain dialogues"

No. 2255863

>>2255588
She never even proved why she was convinced vivarism is the same person as that random they/them girl with a completely different PC setup.

No. 2257103

File: 1731395238445.gif (8.91 MB, 2506x1140, kao.gif)

https://tallowseclusion.info/CC/kao1/tion1.php

building drag and drop worlds, had to start making my own pixel art. anyone got a good link to an archive or webring? I used to search the waybackmachine's japanese sozai web material rankings, but so much is totally dead.

https://tallowseclusion.info/phpinfo.html

Also sharing this gendie'd but well coded piece https://vaje.neocities.org/beachgame
obviously I grew up on Kisekae dolls

No. 2260431

I want to host a site on FC2 but I keep getting an error for "continuing sign up from the same IP address" when I try to add web.fc2 to my services, I've tried using a VPN and it didn't work, any help?

No. 2260683

>>2260431
You could try changing your ip address. There are YouTube videos that show you how to do it. You could also try using Tor.

No. 2261185

>>2260683
NTA but when i use tor on surface web sites sometimes the ip is banned. i'd try a vpn for just fc2

No. 2262446

i'd literally kill to have an 18+ adults with jobs-only website host that functioned like neocities. i like how easy it is to find sites on nc, but i hate that kids and gendies are everywhere. i know, i know i can just email the sites i do like, but i hate sifting through pages of pronoun shit to discover sites by cool women in the first place.

No. 2262466

>>2262446
nonnie, if anything just check the button walls of women you know for a fact don't really buy into it. i wish i knew of more myself too, though…

No. 2262515

>>2262446
have you considered logging off? if surfing the web feels like a chore then maybe you need a break or this community isnt for you. tif sites sometimes can be eyesores but theyre not jumping through the screen to burn you. enjoy the cringe for what it is, its just teenagers and young adults trying to express themselfs. dont ragequit the tab when you see some tard calling herself they/them. try to find something cool about the site like art or blogs or design, idk whatever you like about personal sites. you dont have to befriend them or believe the tranny garbage or interact at all, but when you pay attention to the good stuff that stops you from seething 24/7. less sifting, more surfing. not every wave is worth catching but the oceans always beautiful

No. 2262570

>>2262515
holy shit it's not that fucking deep. god you pretentious retards are insufferable. a lot of my favorite sites are coded by tifs and tims but sometimes i wish that wasn't the majority of what i encounter on the net, nothing more nothing less. christ alive is it such a crime to wish it was a smidge easier to find other less gender-obsessed women

No. 2262617

>>2262515
DA but "I wish I could find more normal woman websites" is a simple statement and not worth writing a snide mini essay in response to. I get sperging over troons gets old but it really does get lonely how few well-adjusted bio woman with this hobby there seems to be.

No. 2262630

>>2262515
DA while I agree with you this line killed me.
>its just teenagers and young adults trying to express themselfs.
They suck at is soooo fucking much kek. Several times my friends have been like "ughhh this tif made an amazing site!! I will NEVER make something this original!!!!!!" And I click on it and it's the ugliest thing I've ever seen kekkkk.

No. 2262639

File: 1731732879707.png (758.52 KB, 784x712, WANTWOMAN.png)

>>2262617
i'm with snide-mini-essay-anon on this. "I wish I could find normal woman" is a tired topic in this thread. At a certain point it's time to accept neocities for what it is and socialize with other women irl.

No. 2262752

>>2262639
agree that it's a tired topic here, but "accepting neocities for what it is" is far from the only solution. if you want it, you can take the initiative and build it… isn't that the point of this hobby?
if the thing deterring you is people camping the webring or listing to call out terfs (like the woti webring), just do it without mentioning it in the thread

No. 2263392

>>2262630
It's hard to consider it self-expression when they all look the same.

>>2262639
Except most women I know IRL don't have this hobby. If you don't like complaining about genders, just scroll.

No. 2263401

>>2263392
So true!! If you make the 18+ employed women of the web ring I will join!

No. 2263565

>>2262446
kids and gendies are everywhere, but I don't think it's really that hard to find personal sites made by adults with even if they're grad students or something. why not take the initiative and make something cool yourself? who's gonna take one for the team and make an 18+ adults with jobs-only webring kek

No. 2263711

>>2263565
>why not take the initiative and make something cool yourself?
i could make this webring in two seconds flat if i wanted to but if you read my post, i mentioned that i wish there was a website HOST with those requirements, not a webring. there's no point in making an adults with jobs webring when you can peruse the woti webring and find the exact same people who would express interest in it.

No. 2263748

>>2263711
you can run a free website host yourself, too, anon…
and I don't understand your attachment to specifically a webhosting service with this purpose anyway. it sounds like you just want to browse websites with a certain tone, and, in that sense, there's no actual difference between browsing the neocities homepage and a weblisting you might make yourself

No. 2263779

>>2263401
Why are anons in this thread being so catty? Are there secret tifs lurking defensive over criticism about gendies? kek

No. 2263798

>>2263711
Do you have some beef with woti or something. The adults with jobs are already there, why isn't that enough?

No. 2263828

>>2262515
They hated you because you told them the truth lol.
>>2262570
Wild statement considering you're essentially expecting the Internet to revolve around you. How can you even make it irl when you can't even handle a bunch of tifs that you can block in one second? Stop throwing tantrums and log off, retard

No. 2263886

>>2263828
anon:
>I wish more normal women were in this hobby/easier to find
you:
>Stop throwing tantrums and log off, retard
somebody's throwing a tantrum but I don't think it's them

No. 2263913

>>2263798
These are the real questions. There are over 120 women in woti and she can't find one to make friends with?

No. 2264223

anti-porn nonnies, if you were starting up a forum/board, what lengths would you go to in order to keep porn links off the boards? i would like to keep weird degens who try to spread their gross fetish art of kids' shows off my community as much as possible. i was thinking of implementing something like "if you own a links page on your site, and you want to link to it here, it can't have porn site links on it." Or if they're an artist and they link to, like, their twitter or w/e, they can't have a link in bio to their porn patreon/tumblr or something, or be actively retweeting NSFW adult stuff.

good idea? too extreme? i know a lot of writing/artfolk like to do nsfw stuff on the side, and that's their right, but i'm honestly so sick of how normalized all that stuff has gotten. like, it used to be that writers and artists were smart enough to keep that stuff separate from their mainstream stuff. idk, maybe i'm too unreasonable.

No. 2264230

>>2264223
Just ban that shit outright
People on the early Internet used to have common sense
If you were in a listserv dedicated to an artist, nobody would be posting erotic or political stuff
It's not even about being anti-porn, it's about the internet devolving into a sewer. Instead of connecting people, it's become about influencing people to do your bidding and buy your stuff. Including bodies n feet n shit, sex sells.

No. 2264299

>>2264223
No offense but don't expect to have many people if you have a rule like that. You can ban all porn from being posted, but I don't think you're going to stop people who do draw that stuff but won't post it on the forum from joining. Why not just vet artists and see what kind of stuff they draw? If they draw vanilla stuff or pinups, who cares. if they draw degen cartoon fanart, bestiality, then don't let them join. If this is a public forum I don't think this will work out, it sounds like you're looking for a private SFW only Discord.

No. 2264306

>>2264230
thanks anon. that's my feeling on it too. I feel like SFW should just be the accepted default like it once was. SFW/NSFW was way more segregated back then and I think it's definitely something to aspire to again.

>>2264299
no offense taken at all, anon! I don't really expect it to be a big community, yeah, and from a modding standpoint/trying to maintain a certain atmosphere, I don't think I'd want it to be.
it's not so much that I don't want artists who might draw porn to join, it's like, I don't want them sharing links to porn or something like a social media bio that immediately slaps you in the face with a link to an NSFW twitter or w/e.
i don't like the format of discord but i get what you mean.

No. 2264310

>>2264306
NTA but I think banning NSFW/questionable links, images and text inside the forum is enough to keep a good atmosphere, the usual rules sites that don't allow NSFW abide by, I use the Animal Crossing forum and it's very nice.
It's imposible to police people for what they do outside your site, if you or anyone were able to do so not a single person would be able to join anywere. If for example, you put this rule in effect
>"if you own a links page on your site, and you want to link to it here, it can't have porn site links on it."
It would work… for one or two sites deep. Maybe User A is fully SFW and their linkages are SFW sites as well, but there's no telling that if you follow one of these linkages, the new site won't have any questionable link despite being a SFW site.

No. 2264316

>>2263913
Anons just want everything spoonfed to them. Skimming a webring list of woman-run sites is too much effort, I guess. Neocities is on Github too, nothing is stopping someone from cloning and making their own host from the code that only allows "adults with a job" to join.

No. 2264410

What are some mistakes HMTL and CSS noobs make? I'm becoming very OCD about presentation even though I have no clue what I'm doing lol

No. 2264625

>>2264310
thanks for the tip on the AC forum, and the advice! I appreciate it.

No. 2264630

>>2264410
lots. making HTML/CSS mistakes is something everyone stumbles with. for me it was stuff like making sure my tags were closed, double-checking my div names and stuff like that.
test everything locally before you push it out online, and you'll catch a lot of your mistakes. but you're new, so try not to stress to hard about this right now- just focus on getting in practice, and learning how to troubleshoot your code and fix stuff as it comes up!

No. 2267109

File: 1732028133033.jpg (52.57 KB, 386x364, stfu.jpg)

>>2254833
she thinks she's so clever

No. 2267988

>>2267109
I'd have more respect for her if she just admitted that she anonfailed when trying to grudgepost on here, and just moved on for real. Just from reading her website and never speaking to her, I can tell she's still obsessed with us and what people think of her despite trying to be "above the drama"

No. 2268475

>>2267109
someone tell this chick to build a bridge and get over her schizoposting about flonne holy shit

No. 2268636

>>2268475
Famous last words: "Nice try but NOBODY knows who I am." >>2067866



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