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No. 418500
thread #1
>>56468thread #2
>>199767thread #3
>>333126if you're still extremely unsure if you're bisexual, the questioning thread is likely a better fit. talk about your gender preferences, how you discovered you were bi, what's your type in men and women, how you feel in the community, any struggles you've had with bisexuality, etc.
No. 419080
Is anyone else itt celibate? I'm quite picky on top of the 'tism, so if I never get a gf I'll just stay permanently single. Hookups and casual non-monogamous situationships are a massive turn-off. Also obvious moidhate reasons aside, my only experience with a moid only reaffirmed how much I could never stand to be with one, even if he was somehow 100% my type so that's not an option either lmao.
>>418778My condolences nona
No. 419273
Stealing this from the lesbian thread: describe the last woman you had a crush on.
>huge, gentle, brown eyes, with a glimmer
>autistic (noticeably)
>raging weeb
>very pale skin, veins showing through
>somewhat prominent nose, very cute
>super long hair
>high pitched voice that's weirdly very soft and shrill at the same time
>thin, pretty lips, always in a smile
>feminine, modest style
>super narrow shoulders and pretty, delicate arms
>insanely pretty hands with thin fingers
>mix of curvy and pointy/bony in some areas, large chest
>wide hips, has the classic 50s silhouette if that makes sense
I feel like a retard because i can't convey her charm very well (cute this and cute that), but she looks like she stepped out of a 19th c. painting. And i love her.
No. 419512
>>419426same. must be because my type in men and women is the same so i have a really strong predilection for androgynous women. it used to be the opposite but now i'm pretty much only attracted to tall women with skinny androgynous builds and a very "guy-like" fashion sense (aka no fashion sense). it's not like i can't feel attracted to feminine curvy girls but the preference for girls who look like cute lanklets is very strong.
androgynous men don't do that much for me though because they age even worse than regular guys imo, i just like skinny and pretty guys.
>>419510there are many, they either think they're lesbians so they're in the lesbian threads or their preference for men is so strong that they don't bother leaving the male crush threads.
>>419511usually i think the opposite (that most women are just het) but the fact that rad-adjacent or somewhat manhating spaces always seem to be overflowing with bisexual women is interesting
No. 419529
>>419512>there are many, they either think they're lesbians so they're in the lesbian threads or their preference for men is so strong that they don't bother leaving the male crush threadsor they just use the female and male crushes separately but not specifically this thread. can't say I even blame them considering how full of bait it often is.
>usually i think the opposite (that most women are just het) but the fact that rad-adjacent or somewhat manhating spaces always seem to be overflowing with bisexual women is interestingYeah, I think a lot of normie women just internalize the male gaze and see the female body as sexual but only because patriarchal society in itself presents it as such, the female body itself as sexy but the woman herself as sexless outside the male gaze sexualising her. Meanwhile actual SSA women are more likely to actually be repulsed by male OSA, often after dealing with their own internalized homophobia and coming to terms that sharing female attraction with bihet moids does not put them on the same level. Then again, I've also seen the opposite phenomenon, bisexual and even lesbian women defensive of male gazey depictions of women in the libfem "men do it so women should be allowed to do it too!" way and claiming that criticism of pornification of women is "homophobia" because "some lesbians/bisexuals are into that as well!"
No. 419541
>>419539>Straight women are less specific about the sex they desire, they are less likely to have a strong disgust reaction to the female formI think this can be explained by female socialization tbh. The argument that female sexuality and male sexuality are different has always annoyed me because I know what it's like to go from one side to the other. I used to have a very nebulous or "fluid" sexuality like what you describe, until I started to actually consider what I'm into. A lot of women simply don't ever think about what they actually want.
>maybe because women are taught to have less boundaries in general?basically yeah
No. 419584
>>419273The last woman I had a crush on is a friend I never talk to anymore and I'm nervous that she might post on here because she was also an edgy weeb. I think she's actually bi and I still have weird dreams about kissing her sometimes
>>419511I could believe this because the majority of posts I see in normie bi women spaces like reddit are women who have been hetero married or otherwise exclusively partnered with men for years who think they
might be bi or are only interested in hooking up with women on the side but would've been 100% content living as straight
No. 419596
>>419510I think those who prefer/currently date men go to straight relationship threads, and those who prefer women to lesbian thread.
>>419539A lot of more moids have attraction/experimenting with other men than they admit. I used to study engineering and the stuff they did in student parties "as a joke bruh" was already pretty gay, probably a lot more happened behind closed doors.
No. 419605
>>419541Yeah, i was too categorical. I also have a more 'male' style of attraction (very visual, firm preferences etc.) so i know very well it's not set in stone. A lot of what you can call 'male' or 'female' sexuality overlaps anyways. But yes, i suspect female socialization has a lot to do with this. It's not just that women are taught to not have boundaries, but people have a created a world where women's boundaries feel weightless and are easily ignored, it probably deeply shapes many women's sexualities.
>>419590I don't trust self-reports kek. I believe women when they say they have a certain orientation, but i'm still aware of the fact they could lie (unless my gaydar is strongly activated). I know too many women who claim to be bi and display zero SSA (just a vague 'ummm women nice and pretty' sentiment) or bisexuals who LARP as lesbian in certain contexts to believe every statement at face value.
>>419550Kek that's true. But i meant that men have firmer limits when it comes to sex (overall). Some are driven to 'experimentation' by latent bisexuality or pornsickness but they have a harder time going against their 'true' orientation. Men often entertain the idea that gay sex is simpler and easier to obtain than heterosexual intercourse but they lament the fact that they can't force a change in their orientation (i've seen this both online and IRL). I also know many women who
did try lesbian sex when they knew very well they were completely het, it's strange
No. 419654
>>419605>But i meant that men have firmer limits when it comes to sex (overall)tbh i don't think this is accurate, currently at least. maybe at some point it was but nowadays men are getting memed into liking femboys and trannies to such an extent that it's kind of an epidemic. my sister uses tiktok a lot and she's always ranting about how every day she finds at least one video of a man saying he prefers femboys over real women or a comment section full of guys claiming that they'd take a femboy or a tim over an actual woman, and i believe them. this isn't something that i've seen happen to women.
it's pretty weird and it's also pretty recent. imo it can be attributed primarily to the whole trans thing and the pornification of pretty much everything, and social media/forums etc etc. this has proven to me that male sexuality might be a lot more malleable than female sexuality, and that the stereotype that women's sexuality is more flexible than men's might've been pure projection all along, or born from male-made media and the world at large telling women that they must pleasure men, and that being "bicurious" is one way to achieve that. or both. meanwhile, for men it seems like they're genuinely getting their sexualities twisted into this strange sort-of-gay limbo where they proudly proclaim that the best part about femboys is the dick.
overall, i don't like saying that sexualities can be molded or changed, but the current climate tells me men are either a lot more susceptible to getting so pornsick that they start craving feminine boys in dresses and tights (not news to anyone) or that the number of bisexual men is a lot higher than the number of bisexual women.
No. 419658
>>419654Women would be the same if there were legions of sexy crossdressing women for them to fangirl over, though. Takarazuka is a Japanese theater company that's primary thing is handsome crossdressing women, and normie married women, grandmas, office women, etc come out in droves to watch and fangirl
obsessively over these actresses. These women say the same thing that femboy loving moids say, but reversed– "crossdressing women are sexier than real men".
What to make of these facts on both sides, I don't know.
No. 419660
>>419658true. i was gonna argue that those women are never as horny about female crossdressers as men are about male crossdressers but that is 100% just a result of socialization lmao so i totally agree with you.
maybe the conclusion is just that the difference really isn't that big, if it even exists. or that both homosexual and heterosexual people are the minority, and the majority are actually a little bit bi (like kinsey 1s and 2s) but they almost never find out because they have no reason to question themselves.
No. 419672
>>419510The answer was already posted - most people gravitate to either the straight relationship threads or the lesbian thread. I admit I hang in the lesbian thread more because I don’t date and have never dated moids and am more attracted to women, so the posts I make are more relevant there.
>>419511I think it’s just that the default sexuality is bisexual, that makes the most sense. Male or female, not just for humans, for all animals. Everything else comes down to socialisation/conditioning, the fact that society’s notions on gender that aren’t based in biology play a role in attraction, which is why it can seem pretty malleable, or seemingly manifest overnight (like “discovering” you were bi through one exception and then suddenly you’re attracted to even regular people of your gender, or suddenly you’re not repulsed by their genitals). It’s been proven that humans are physiologically aroused by attractive people of the same gender regardless of their identified sexuality - the defining factor is the psychological executive decision: “would I have sex with them/COULD I imagine or navigate having sex with them?” There are only a few completely heterosexual and homosexual people, but when it’s more convenient to stick to one, why wouldn’t you? I also think that the direction of your sexuality is something that is cultivated, and grows when you pay attention to it.
No. 419678
>>419661having lurked in Japanese fanspaces for a few years, I’ve learned that while it’s culturally not acceptable for women to post “omfg fuck me pls” about celebrities like we do in the west, these women do genuinely seem extremely horny about it in their own coded subdued way. They just can’t say it outright because it’s considered insanely rude.
And I feel like it’s not a fair comparison to say that moids are the only ones going out and fucking cross dressers, because femboys’ whole thing is selling porn and crossdressing prostitutes are prostitutes, the whole thing is a sex thing so it’s easy for moids to engage sexually. The true reverse exists nowhere and even takarazuka, which I think is the closest comparison, is enveloped in a completely sanitized purity fan culture and the objects of lust are untouchable actresses that you couldn’t sleep with if you tried. But that doesn’t mean the fans don’t want to fuck them. You know?
No. 419711
>>419672>>419654>It’s been proven that humans are physiologically aroused (..) regardless of identityOnly women, really. Women display bisexual arousal across all sexual orientations (unlike men, who are clearly divided when it comes to arousal). Only lesbians seem to be more particular about their arousal, in a similar fashion to men. I think AYRT might be onto something. These kinsey 2 straight women are indeed fully straight psychologically and socially but there is a bisexual pattern of arousal in women and it might be interpreted as 'all straight women are bisexual on some level'. Now, arousal and actually enjoying sex or even having an interest for women are two different things. Sorry for sperging, but this is really interesting and relevant to the thread. The fact that women seem to experience arousal differently in relation to their orientation feels meaningful. Men are very malleable when it comes to retarded porn-induced fetishes but that's distinct from sexual orientation. Also i suspect that men's attraction to 'ambiguous' men is much, much more common than what we think. It's only starting to be uncovered due to exposure to troons
>>419687.. Why? There are plenty of bisexuals who relate to this (not clicking with bisexual 'culture' or whatever, preferring women), it's still not lesbianism.
No. 419789
>>419740I just don’t see how women who have had sex with men would be able to post in the lesbian thread but women who have only had experience with women can’t. I’m not arguing on what is or isn’t lesbianism.
You said that there are many bisexuals that relate, I disagree, even though there are some here that prefer women they still like men more than incidentally. You’re recognising that bisexuality is an extremely broad category and that both ends hardly relate to each other - they relate more to either straight women or gay women. So why do the bihet anons get to go to all the straight woman threads there without there being a fuss?
I still post here occasionally, but obviously I’m not gonna appear much in a thread where women are still talking about being attracted to a fucking/dating men, that’s just like the rest of this website
and to be frank I hate reading about it. If you truly want to segregate us, then make a bi thread for the kinsey 5s specifically, but that would be redundant and only for namesake because it would literally be identical to the lesbian thread.
I think it’s annoying when bi anons announce themselves in the lesbian thread and I don’t see why anyone who engages with men would want to post there but I don’t think my specific instance is harmful in the slightest.
No. 419805
>>419711>Only women display bisexual arousal across all sexual orientationsThat's kind of bleak tbh. I skimmed over a study on this
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8604855/ and it concluded that even lesbians experience arousal towards male sexual stimuli, although their response is stronger with female sexual stimuli but still, disappointing. Then I looked for a study on men's responses to sexual stimuli
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31399924/ and it concluded that they're more sex-specific and help predict men's sexual orientation better than women's responses.
I still maintain that socialization plays a role in this, maybe a huge role even, but as it stands, it really paints women as flaky and malleable. By itself it's a neutral finding but when you consider how there's a narrative that lesbians specifically can be turned, it becomes pretty uncomfortable, to me at least.
No. 419823
>>419820The relationships thread is basically a straight woman thread, anyone who wants gay relationship advice comes to one of the gay threads, and the rare time they do post there they get like no responses or ones that are half-assed compared to the ones about moids.
That being said, that’s not even my reason for using the lesbian thread. I notice how you didn’t respond to the more relevant rest of the reply.
No. 419890
>>419880umm nope nona ackshually it means you want them inside you because female sexuality is just about pleasing men and filling your empty holes!!
reminds me of another even more horrid pseudo-scientific "study" I found a long time ago that suggested that female SSA evolved specifically to attract males
No. 419961
>>419805AYRT, while i understand your reaction, i think it's very dependent on the way these results are obtained, like
>>419819 and others have pointed out. IIRC these studies often bring up how difficult it is to gauge the validity of the results when women seem to elude male-centric methods of measuring arousal. At the end of the day, we have different genitalia and are socialized very differently, so it's not too shocking that things like orientation are expressed differently. You could reverse the 'women are flimsy' conclusion too, and argue that male arousal is retarded in comparison
>>419883KEK
>>419878Maybe you are right about the fact that the lesbian thread is more appropriate for some topics. But i replied partly because i'm intrigued by the tendency of some bisexuals to hide, or flat out lie about their bisexuality if they hang in explicitly lesbian spaces or date women. A lot of the time it's white lies, downplaying OSA attraction or leaving out a het dating history. Not saying
you are lying about it
or that it's super harmful, but it reminded me of this
>If you truly want to segregate us, then make a bi thread for the kinsey 5s specifically, but that would be redundant and only for namesake because it would literally be identical to the lesbian thread.Ehhhhh, no. And you can post about being a mostly-SSA woman too, i don't see why the presence of kinsey 2s is such a hindrance. As annoying as it is to not relate at all to them, they aren't preventing you from talking about your experience.
No. 419970
>>419961>don't see why the presence of kinsey 2s is such a hindrance.It’s not, my point is that if anons want to partake in the discussions that happen on certain threads it’s not an issue, the same goes for lesbians that occasionally come here, I don’t see the problem with that? If anons want that to stop
then they can make a thread for mostly SSA women. If the other women are like me, the discussions would never roll around to men or male attraction so yeah, it would be the same.
No. 419981
>>419970we get it, words have no meanings, you are just like lesbians, everyone should use threads not for them because "why should anyone care", etc.
We understand you're retarded. You don't have to keep telling us, so stop sperging
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>>419970>>419981just kiss already
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>lesbian thread dead for the 2nd day in a row
>bisexual thread active for the 2nd day in a row
Really makes you think.(infight baiting)
No. 420011
>>420009Don't stare too much in the mirror,
nonnie.
No. 420065
>>420050Not like I want moids to do it, I wouldn’t mind degrading a bihet either
>>420058Based but they don’t want me
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is there anyone here who have experience with having people insinuate or even outright strongly believe/tell you to your face that they are convinced that you are a lesbian instead of bi? despite things like you having had a dating history with men, having had sex with men, so on so forth, it just doesn't seem to matter to these people?
like i don't want this to delve into another "omg please diagnose my sexuality" but this happens constantly with everyone around me and all it has given me now is sexual orientation OCD and paranoia that i'm living a lie no matter which label i choose. my whole life i felt confident in telling people i am bi, but after these experiences with people trying to convince me that i'm a lesbian, now it's giving me a deep seated confusion in my life.
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>>420216that makes so much sense thank u
>>420222ooooh this is so real and very fucking annoying. its scary how common that type of thinking goes unchecked these days, though, and makes me feel horrible for lesbians having to keep fighting against it.
>>420223ugh, i had an ex one time who was like OMG MAYBE YOU'RE PANSEXUAL LOL just because i think its awesome that gender non-conforming people exist and some looked attractive to me. like no, stupid, pretty sure i'm just being a regular bisexual.
if someone says they're bi, just believe them? it's not like you live inside their heads 24/7/365.
>>420230yea you're right
nonny, i think i'll un-come out to my parents the next time i see them.
>>420250i think ultimately female bisexuality is still a mystical thing that most people refuse to understand on a deeper level, so just contend to thinking every single one of us is either lying or so confused that we need to fuck every single person on earth in order to be extra sure. funny how straight women who are virgins and prob planning to keep it that way until they find a serious relationship/marriage are automatically believed to be het despite 0 experiences with moids lol.
>>420254this did something to my brain and i want to thank you so much for you breaking it down holy shit. its scary how seductive social contagion is and how… well, unpopular bisexuality is in general that everyone wants to explain it away with nebulous terms like comphet (the kind that says its okay to want a male celebrity's dick but because he's unattainable its okay), pansexuality, or split attraction models.
>>420270that makes sense also. i think especially in the cases where a bi woman doesn't fit in with biphobic stereotypes (doesn't want group sex, doesn't need a bf and a gf at once to feel complete, may gnc in some way, etc) then that means she's some other orientation, instead of just embracing the fact that bisexuality might be different from one person to the next with how it is expressed. if that makes sense.
thanks everyone. i think i'm finally at peace with myself and can let the confusion go.
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I have a sort of a crush on an online friend, I don't know what she looks like or how old she is (could be anything from 25 to 35) or her real name and I will probably never get to know her in person but I am in love. This is debilitating and I hate this why does it always happen? Also why does she not answer to me it's been a week I'm dying.
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>>422084Kek it was actually League of Legends. Felt like I was experiencing picrel irl.
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Just posting this here in case someone else finds it interesting. It's a survey report that focuses on bisexual people (about 44k of all respondents and there are reports on other groups as well) and I know the organization is pro-troon as most are nowadays but they are surprisingly only about 20% of the survey data. I'm not European though, so if there are any controversies about this org I don't know about them
https://www.ilga-europe.org/files/uploads/2023/08/FRA-Intersections-Report-Bisexuals.pdf No. 425629
>>425624Same and you're so real for this, nona.
I had a long distance gf and she did not deserve to be subjected to my absolute batshit insanity that would emerge in-person.
I think most people assume I'm primarily into women because of my presentation though.
No. 426342
>>426226Just be one of those polyamorous bis kek. I see them online all the time (and without fail the het pair
always leaves the other girl to be together).
No but seriously, it’s so bizarre. Bi women seem to be perfectly fine going their whole lives with just men but apparently it’s impossible to be with a woman and not think of men kek. Maybe you should just stick with men.
No. 426589
>>426226I am this anon. I'm dealing a bit better with those feelings. For the record I dont drool over other people in from of my long-term girl or rub it in her face. It's just difficult to be a bisexual woman with a woman when everyone around you is expecting you to jump ship and go straight at any time no matter how long you've been together. It's so weird to me people can understand the idea of celebrity crushes when it's straight women with some actor they like but for me it's a sign of the end times. Even you retards think bisexual people are insatiable and need to be poly or cheat as if people in general don't wonder about the grass on the other side.
>>426554Member of the jpop group Snow Man. Their upbeat positive music helps me so much through the hard days and I've been a fan of such music since my mid-teens.
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has anybody ever done the fabled bisexual threesome? is it awkward? ive always imagined it would be super awkward, like if you start doing something with the guy's gf then he would get all mad, but if you start doing something with the girl's bf she would get all mad. And then the girl wouldnt even be into you since she is straight. but also i have been kinda fantasizing about doing it with my friend and her moid
No. 427089
>>427080what? since when is it mandatory? it sounds like you are the spineless one that cant tell your scrote "no".
>>427081theyre both hot and have made jokes about it
No. 427096
>>427094I agree with you on principle about the retard you're responding to (imagine being fetishized by your straight friend's boyfriend and hearing her play along with it and being
flattered, fucking loser lmao) but
> You remind me of Hutu women who would hold down Tutsi women during the Rwandan genocide so their scrotes could rape her easilyThis bit is extreme and uncalled for kek
No. 427102
>>427094lmao seethe and mald. Im not raping anybody wtf. If anything the moid would be more like an accessory.
>>427098This will definitely just stay a fantasy since i dont want to cause any drama lmao. I was just curious to see if it had ever gone well for any bi nonas
No. 427109
>>427104idk sounds like your mad at the fantasy of the two of us pleasuring her together and enjoying ourselves. learn to say no to your moid and youll be much happier
>>427106what is a libfem
No. 427121
>>427117yes omg its so hot. I think thats part of what makes the fantasy so hot.
>>427119there is this lesbian nona who comes on here and calls us all sluts
but idk if she knows how hot it is lmao No. 427150
>>427142I mean… it’s not rape but it isn’t exactly the complete opposite. If a straight woman, straight man, and bisexual woman having sex it’s the scrote getting all the enjoyment here. Definitely not the straight woman.
>>427144Excuse me? I’m a bisexual woman. I’m allowed to be here and discuss things. “Baiters” isn’t everyone you disagree with.
No. 427156
>>427154?..Anon
>>427144 said that baiters lurk the bisexual thread. It’s not inappropriate to assume this anon meant lesbians considering the topic. Hence why I’m curious, if not them, who these supposed baiters are, should they exist.
No. 427163
>>427150how is the scrote the only one getting enjoyment out of it? Im getting a hot girl and hot guy, he is getting 2 girls, and she is getting pleasured by both of us. some of us are actually sexually attracted to women and dont just want to frolic in meadows holding hands and shit. having consentual sex with a woman is not exploiting her.
>>427151whenever this thread is active the lesbian thread is dead. makes you think
No. 427168
>>427163I’m saying that the anon who thinks it’s rapey isn’t exactly 100% wrong when the gf is a straight woman 99% of the time. Consensual sex or not, it’s true that most women go along with it to please their bf. She is putting on a performance for him. Personally I couldn’t enjoy that even if she was a “hot girl”. But you do you, like I said I think you should go for it and see if the assumptions are unfounded.
>makes you thinkKek that the bi thread is full of lesbians or the lesbian thread is full of bisexuals? I admit that I talk in the lesbian thread too.
No. 427421
I really don't think I can date moids again. Every time I've tried they've been at worst abusive and at best negligent. I just broke up with my bf a couple weeks ago, who was really quite sweet but I just always felt something was missing. This is such a common feeling when dating men but I know I'm sexually attracted to them. I wish febfem wasn't a terfy term (I'm crypto) because it so aptly describes how I want to continue dating from this point. Am I physically attracted to moids? Yes. Do they interest me in any profound way outside of being a piece of meat? No. Moid interests, likes, values just simply don't align with me. They bore me with their spergy interests and youtube videos. Living with one means you have to put up with his bizarre cleaning habits. I also really hate male feet, every time I have to bare witness to a moid's disgusting toes I want to dry retch.
I told myself before I started dating my recent ex that if it didn't work out I'd never go back to a man again and it definitely still holds true. It doesn't help that I have a lot of sexual trauma from the many times I've been sexually assaulted and raped by partners. But that doesn't even matter, because I just find moids wholly uninteresting and not worth my time.
It's taken until my late 20s to get here but I'm done, I'm over it. I love women, I prefer sex with women, and I love hearing women sperg about their interests because they're more often than not actually interesting. Even just a vulva is so much nicer than an ugly, shrivelled penis and balls. Penises look so pathetic and sad. I always hated sucking dick, it's not the least bit fun or enjoyable, just tedious and painful. It was a problem in multiple relationships because I outright refused to do it. They'd bemoan that they enjoy eating my pussy, but it's not like they were any good at it anyway.
I digress. I'm not sure what the point of this post was other than to vent my frustration, but have any other nonnies made the active choice to disengage from dating men because it's just not worth it? I've been here before, was here for years but that last moid was my final rodeo. I'm out, I got better thing to do.
No. 427473
>>427440Weird energy but ok
>>427449I have. I've dated both men and women throughout the years but it's just men that I have a gripe with. I'm just saying I'm over giving men a chance when I've only really enjoyed being with women.
No. 427700
>>427505AYRT and yeah I agree with
>>427511, I don't think it would be "punishing myself" because I've had so much sexual trauma from men that the reality of fucking them is hard enough to get through. I almost always end up in dead bedrooms with men because once the initial excitement of being with someone I love wears off the bad thoughts creep in and I find it really difficult to be intimate. I know that's what they always say so I do agree with you to a large extent. I have actually said it before and happily dated women for a while until COVID, and then I think I got so isolated and lonely I forgot about the darkness that creeps in that I mentioned above.
But knowing what I do now, and how no matter what I do this will always come up, I would be punishing myself by dating a man again. Which sucks, but I'm coming to terms with it. I'm happy to lust after famous men and men I can never be with, and that be the extent of it for me.
No. 427838
How do i stop falling for straight 'tomboys'. You know the type, 'one of the bros' type women, nerdy, kind of rude, completely straight. You can tell they're autistic/grew up with men and are not lesbian but i can't not crush on them. It's a curse. I have a friend like this. She once brought up how she seems to attract SSA women a lot, and i really get the women who pursued her kek
>>427421>He's sweet but…>They bore me with their youtube videos. Living with one means you have to put up with his bizarre cleaning habits. I also really hate male feet, every time I have to bare witness to a moid's disgusting toes I want to dry retch. Kek are you me. I don't think repressing anything is right. Just date moids you fancy and drop them if the shoe doesn't fit. I would hate to be the 'at least she's not male' partner of a woman, so i don't approach women with this in mind even if i relate to your dissatisfaction with men. Or you can not date anyone unless you're deeply in love with them. I find that the issue with OSA dating is that it almost always is the easy way out, it feels 'safe' because the stakes are really low. Waiting for actual infatuation might be better
No. 428136
>>427896not het, i'm homosexual, and i don't understand why you got redtexted when it's true kek. but anyway, i have no idea why i got taken in bad faith when all i was expressing was that it isn't realistic to declare you're giving up on a group of people who you're attracted to. if it works out that's great, it just rarely, if ever, does. like
>>427838 said, it makes more sense to date someone you're actually into and wait for attraction to happen naturally.
>>427904i actually don't even know if trauma ever has any part of it, i think it's purely about how much attraction you experience to a group. if the degeneracy of men truly pushed women away from dating them, not a single man on planet earth would have a girlfriend, and yet so many do. lots of radfems even have boyfriends.
No. 428274
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What's your guys coming out story?
I don't really consider mine to be a coming out, but one day I just told my grandma "I have a girlfriend. Yes, I like men too.". I guess because the only person who matters to me really is my grandma and I already knew that she didn't care about people being gay, so it really wasn't some huge, emotional, scary ordeal for me. Although she does question me on if I actually like men since I've only been with women kek.
No. 428385
>>428351Damn, not getting eaten out at all sounds so depressing, especially if you’re the one only giving. I think that being selfish is not cute at all.
I hope you can get eaten out as much as possible in your next relationship nona
No. 428491
>>428432then why did you get mad at
>>428164?
No. 428859
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I really missed this thread
No. 428917
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>>428859Same. I wish I could post more to make it more active but my life is boring and I don't do anything.
No. 429779
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As a britbong one of my types is whatever women like picrel grow up to be after age 25. Straight, probably.
No. 429960
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tfw no gf, bf, or friend
>>429779as a redblooded american i have never seen a girl like this
>>428917i would post more but then people irl would knw who i am
No. 430605
>>430419I also have crush on a coworker. She is single but seems very straight. I get so jealous when moids simp at her and even that she has a closer female friend at the office (this other woman has a boyfriend.)
>>430435Why? In the best case you become a toy while she loves her man, in the worst case you get your ass beaten by psycho scrote.
No. 431557
My fellow bi nonas, I have a few questions for you:
How do you flirt, if you like femmes and are a femme?
In my life I pulled two girls by being weird (I think we had some sort of shared autism) and well moids are moids so it's easy, but how do you actually flirt with femmes? If you've been with femme girls (my two gfs were a butch and a normal girl, in between), how?
For some reason, since I look pretty femme myself, I think that other girls automatically assume I'm straight and maybe find my mannerism weird, if I flirt with them? idk I have this fear, my last relationship, the one with the butch, made me realize that I really like another vibe of girls and not the "one of the boys" kind but I find myself pretty in trouble
No. 431565
>>431557As a femme4femme lesbian, ngl it’s pretty hard! And this is coming from the fact that a majority of lesbians nowadays are IMHO f4f too (tiktok and tumblr has turned half of an entire generation of young women queer and most of them are feminine).
A lot of it has to do with societal culture I feel. Femmes or feminine women in general has always played the role of the pursued, so we’re usually conditioned to let the other more masculine party take the first move. When we’re forced to take the first move ourselves we usually struggle (or at least I do).
What my ex did (and what I’m trying to do from now on) was establish a connection before the first conversation. She was attracted to me and she kept constantly looking at me while waiting for me to return eye contact, and whenever I did she smiled then looked away (we met in the college library). Since I also found her attractive I started also constantly looking back at her and she told me “that was when I knew I could try ask you out” so she came over to my table and asked if she could sit next to me. And then we started talking and everything was history.
Idk if there’s any other context IRL where you can do the same as she did (I’m struggling to find a gf rn kek) but establishing that first connection is vital I guess. My ex told me that usually if a feminine girl is straight or not interested they would act weirded out or ignore your smile the first time, and that’s you cue to not do it again unless you wanna come off as a creepy weirdo.
If all these seem like too much work then there’s always the local lesbian bar and HER though…
No. 431601
>>431599What the fuck is this even
I am not going to google another ridiculous label
Can you people just fuck and not overanalyze it
Jeezus
No. 431628
>>431627I find both macro and micro labels (wut?) idiotic
Just fuck, it ain't complicated, all of your ancestors way back to LUCA did it
No. 431930
>>431599I relate, i get it, it feels safer than risking re-traumatizing contact. I've maintained this with men aswell.
You'll get tired eventually, after years and years of this. You'll start resenting the other for allowing this to continue, and resent yourself for the same reason. You can enjoy reciprocity in sex, it's not impossible. Calling yourself a 'service top' like it's part of your identity contributes to the problem. Honestly any sex that isn't mutual (at least in pleasure, i get that some people lean towards agression or passivity) sucks and stifles your soul. Maybe you're just a giver, maybe you prefer being in control, but not being able to handle sexual contact at all is a serious issue. I also think that falling back on this label can be a way to cope for a very common issue (men not giving us pleasure out of egoism or else). You can take it slow. I didn't enjoy it (like had zero sensation) at first but it was nice when it worked. Finding what kind of foreplay you like really helps. Sorry for being preachy kek i just hope you move past this nona
No. 432174
>>428274never came out to anyone but my exes and friends. most of my friends were gay anyways so it wasn't a big deal.
I'll never come out to my family though unless I fall in love with a woman.
No. 432243
>>431565To be fair, women will smile at you just be friendly, so it's hard to know whether or not they're reciprocating on that level. But doing that myself feels very awkward so I guess it's over
>>431579Rude
No. 432335
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>>431240I'm in the same boat as you, nonna. I'm in my late 20s, have been out since I was a teenager, and the bi cycle does happen for some of us. And this shit come out of nowhere for me at least, like it's not related to any negative experience with either sex. For about 4 years I completely forgot that men even exist and was basically living as a homosexual. But this year I realized that I was becoming more and more interested in men than in women. Before my bi cycle switched to men, I was even thinking about finding a woman to settle down with and now I have to change my plans because I'm not interested in dating women atm.
>It's really difficult to live this way, I can't believe I have to do this the rest of my life.I agree with you, nonna. Did you switched to men or women? The thing I hate the most about the bi cycle is that I could never settle with a man because men age like shit and I'm a very sexual person, I would never be able to have sex with a man who doesn't have the pretty man look and very long hair anymore. Gosh, I hate men for that, why can't they keep the young Sebastian Bach or Ian Astbury look for longer kek? For now I think I'm going to take advantage of the fact that I look 10 years younger and date younger men who are STILL cute and hopefully the bi cycle will go back to women in a while, sigh. I wish there was actually a way to control it or even pick a fucking side, because of this shit I feel like I'm actually not meant for having a forever partner, it sucks. Anyway, I wish you the best nonna, hopefully you'll find a way to deal with it and get a romantic/sexual life that makes you satisfied and happy. Have my virtual hug, nonna.
No. 432679
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>>432218Not really an 'in another life' story but I still think of the girl who was my first crush, although I fully realised the fact only years after the matter.
>be me>11 years old>start a new hobby>going to the hobby place by tram>a girl comes in>I am mesmerized>don't want to stare at her, decide to look at her through the window's reflection>miraculously she comes to the same hobby group>become practically frozen in place every time she comes near me, completely unable to speak to her>she's so cool and smells amazing, if only we could be together everything would be perfect and the angels would sing>still don't realize it's a crush though>she has a special type of fragrance>infer it must be lip gloss (the only scented thing we had at that age)>search for a similar lip gloss at every store, finally find one>it's coconut (I hate coconut)>immediately buy>quit the hobby after a year>keep the lip gloss for the next decade but never use it, only open it occasionally to sniff it like a creepI was so fucking clueless kek
No. 432834
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Nonnas, what are your thoughts on this? Personally I always find it a bit disappointing that any bi awareness focuses on het relationships, but I guess it makes sense if the majority of bi people prefer the opposite sex
No. 432903
>>432834Annoying that people would rather focus on het-leaning and functionally straight bisexuals instead of bi people who are actually interested in or prefer same-sex but they're probably the majority so what is there to do about it
Like yeah obviously you're still bi but I don't really care or find you relatable so whatever
No. 432914
>>432834Who cares, it's just het passing women who are finding more things to feel oppressed about so they can feel more included in the qWuEeR community. Obviously, you're still bi at the end of the day but if you don't even have a gf to show for it then what is the point of larping as an oppressed qweer kek.
>>432851The only reason why bi or gay men don't have to worry about proving themselves bi or gay enough is because for men, being gay is socially unacceptable so if a man says he's gay then he means it and isn't doing it for attention. You don't have this culture of moids desperate to feel like a special snowflake and pretending to be gay like most women do. It's not an "omg this is sexism!!1" issue, it's that fakebians and attentionwhoring bisluts who pretend to be gay for their nigels ruined it for everyone.
No. 432925
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>>432914>You don't have this culture of moids desperate to feel like a special snowflake and pretending to be gay like most women dolul there are definitely some out there but they only get attention from other equally retarded men and enby spicy straight women
or they go full troon and become prison gay
No. 433318
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>>432925Kek you were right to spoiler that anon, although tbh I hardly ever see moids like that in the wild. Usually they're confined to the dating apps on my phone
No. 433381
>>432914I just can't take seriously anyone who uses words like bisluts. Okay, that’s how you feel about bisexual women, that we all must be straight and sex-crazed. Do you hear yourself moid-chan?
You claim that kweer is not an identity to you, yet you moan and whine about bisexual people not dating (you) kek. Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes, go back to your own thread.
No. 433533
>>433526It's kind of funny but it's more annoying than anything
>y-you're all hypersexual BPD gigawhores!!1as if a good chunk of this thread wouldn't be mundane autists and neet-chans
No. 434167
>>434150Don't feel guilty, I love big boobies too. It's such a normal and natural attraction there's nothing to be ashamed or guilty about.
Getting really aroused by big breasts on TV in middle school was when I realized I was bisexual.
No. 434319
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>>432834technically they are still bi but i don't understand the obsession with proving it to everyone. if you yourself know you're bi why does it matter if someone thinks you aren't? just date your moid and be happy
No. 434323
>>434319It's because too many people nowadays have zero personality but a need for acknowledgement and brownie points. Bis in het relationship look just like any other het couple, meaning that they can't claim oppression or that they're totally different than they yucky hets.
Of course, not every bi person is like that, but those who NEED you to know they're BI and not HET while being in a het relationship definitely long to be celebrated for their bravery.
No. 434382
>>432834This is true just like you can be a kissless virgin and still be hetero/homo/bi and not asexual
That said it's still very strange
No. 434388
>>434387Mainly the ones who are into het relationships but who want to act oppressed, the DL men who cheat on their wives with men and give them HIV, the fakebians who call themselves lesbians but still fuck men and the women who perpetually date men and just use women for a quick fuck.
I wish there was a decent online bi community kek, who act normal and don’t make their sexuality their whole life.
No. 434595
I'm in my first relationship ever and it's been nice since the past 8ish months. But there's something that keeps nagging me, she's told her close friends about me, and anyone she's out to, she's mentioned me to them. However, I haven't told anyone about her, only as a friend, I'm not out to anyone in my life, they are all very religious and I'll get ostracized or worse, but at the same time, it all feels so unfair to her, she talks about me to her friends, I've met a couple too, whereas no one in my life knows about her. She was out to her friends way before we met, as she's been with women before too and she's 4 years older than me. She's never brought this up except once she said something like it'd be nice if I told my friends about her, I feel like I'm doing her wrong somehow. Maybe we should call it off if I'm not even ready to proudly be with her so she can be with someone who is? But I want to be with her.
No. 434596
>>434568Ignore the baiting retard. Yes, I sometimes get this feeling too, and I sometimes fantasize about having a dick. I'd never want to actually be a man, but something about being bi is just fucking with me on a psychological level, like my brain can't process it. I feel like I often act like a weird incel moid towards other women, I'm too shy to approach them, I watch them from a distance or simp them, and I get mad when they get together with an ugly moid instead of me (they're straight). My attraction to men is also very fringe and strange, it's definitely there but it comes with a need to dominate them. If a man is much larger than me physically, I can't be attracted to him, I feel disgusted if he comes too close. I also hate being penetrated. And no, I've never considered trooning out because I'm not retarded.
No. 434639
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I didn’t fall for a woman until relatively late in my life, but I was instantly 100000000000000x more into her than anyone I ever was before (it changed my life). But she’s straight, with an ugly man, much older than me, and even if it wasn’t for all that it would never have been possible anyway. I’ve been pining so painfully for so long and it’s not fading no matter how hard I try to get over her because I don’t have any interest whatsoever in anyone who isn’t her even when I try to force it. I dream about her regularly when I’ve tried to forget about her, and fantasize about being her husband and cry real tears that I can’t hold her. I feel like I’m under a curse that I’ll never break no matter how hard I try. It’s so, so, so much harder being in love with a woman than a man, I had no idea. It’s honestly ruining my life and yet I can’t stop it. My heart aches all the time.
I never used to understand people who said dramatic things like this about love, like scrotes who would get obsessed with a woman and ruin their whole lives pining over her, and I feel pathetic and disappointed in myself but am helpless to change it.
No. 434681
>>432834They're as bisexual as a nun or an incel is most likely straight.
I don't even understand why this is even an argument or an issue. Maybe it's because i'm from a conservative country but you're just not expected to engage in a relationship in the first place (and if you do no sex obvi and it's supposed to be chastise) , does that make you asexual until you get married?
No. 434765
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>>433943nonnie I've been doing that as well but with these two characters from ER, kek. I don't really imagine myself having a threesome, but just being there as some sort of apparition watching these two go to town kek. I've been feeling pretty sexually/romantically detached lately so maybe that's part of why I'm not really thinking of myself here.
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We should just rename these threads to Pornsick General(infight bait)
No. 435052
>>435019About two months, I am in my 30s and she’s late 20s.
She says she needs a long time of knowing someone before having sex and has been hinting at wanting to do the deed this last week.
Afaik she’s not having sex with these quick dates either but to be fair it’s more the idea she’s entertaining men that upsets me so much.
No. 435063
I've always knew since I was an early teen I was bisexual I was out to my friends too (fuck my family though they are extremely homophobic and borderline fascists). However, due to also being autistic and having a repressed sexuality due to how conservative my family was, I also feel like I had only but a skewed image of what I'm into, in general, and only now in my mid 20's I feel more clarity about it. Due to being a sperg I was rejected a lot so I would always follow along if a man showed interest in me, thinking that I should grab the chance after being rejected so much. I remember deliberately making myself liking them, only for them to treat me like shit afterwards and me strangely falling apart even though I wasn't that much into them physically nor did I consider them great people. Even if I knew I was bisexual, and I would always say it to family and partners, I never made any move on a woman. In retrospect, I feel like I didn't "allow" it to myself, because I just went with the flow of the men who showed interest and sincerely felt like no woman would be dumb enough to go for someone like me. Being a sperg also means Im a bit more male socialized due to my hobbies and it's a bit harder to connect with fellow girls, even if I want to (I have many female friends though but romance is a bit morea advanced in its nature). All in all, my 4 year relationship is about to end, and throughout the half of it I realized that Im extremely sexually repressed, and want to finally experience and enjoy my attraction to women, to finally allow myself to be honest with myself first and foremost. I just feel so dumb for allowing this for so long but I'm also very insecure I will just come across as someone who's dissapointed with men and therefore are using bi or lesbians for validation.
No. 435439
I work at a restaurant and this customer (female) asked for my number. She was out for some drinks with friends and wanted to grab a drink with me after my shift and I figured why not. I broke up with my bf a couple months ago so I'm not particularly ready to date yet but she was so pretty and also very normie looking. I am not normie looking, but I'm also not super alternative looking either, somewhere in between.
When we were out for drinks she disclosed she was in an open relationship and the her bf was with her earlier, and that he's kind and she's pretty happy with him. I felt pretty disheartened even though I didn't want something serious, but we ended up getting drunk and having sex anyway kek.
Reflecting on it the day after, maybe this is what I need? I've already sworn off dating men again, it's never a satisfying experience for me, but having a casual fwb situation with someone I know isn't going to get insanely attached to me might be best.
I mention she's normie looking because thank fuck. The lgb dating scene is so full of gendies and just all round horribly annoying people and it was so refreshing to talk to a woman that just isn't a complete sperg. We were waiting in line at a bar and I saw this TiM I know and I waved, and after we got drinks the girl I was with says "who was he?" to which I had to tell her he was trans and that he's nice, but I don't really fw trans stuff as a whole. And thank fuck she agreed with me, and we talked about it for a bit before he came and sat down near us, kek.
The only thing that bothers me about this is that she seems like the kind of woman for me, and if it becomes an ongoing thing I'm worried I might get attached. It's so rare to find a terfy, normie woman who's funny and interesting.
I also tried using a strap on for the first time and it was so fun kek
No. 435664
>>435599Theoretically I would but I dont fuck anyone, I am now a dedicated waifufag and stopped pining over hypothetical real life people
>>435481>autismsame
>men disgust me unless I can treat them brutallybased and same, I wouldn't be able to tolerate a man unless he was a 8/10+ and docile enough to let me DV him and even then I do not experience enough attraction to moids
No. 435732
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Should female bi just date each other? Experiences dating bi4bi vs bi4lesbian?
I was seeing a lesbian but we had different ideas about what types of women are attractive, she seems to think wanting fem4fem is "male gaze" and something I can "get over"
No, I'm not into masc women and since coming out I don't want to be perceived as masculine anymore. I want to be a hot chick. I know what I'm attracted TO and so want to look like that. People act like not being attracted to people with bad haircuts is oppressive. And she was initially really pushy with my boundaries in sex.
I feel like I don't fit in with the qweer crowd because I don't worship ugliness. But I don't want someone who acts straight either. Just for fucks sake put on some moisturizer once in your life and try exercising more.
I'm totally over men at this point and the thought of them disgusts me, but I also can't get over this thought that being perceived as a lesbian must mean I'm unattractive.
No. 435774
>>435768To me, masculinity is unattractive on both sexes.
And acting like that's something that can be "changed" is sort of like conversion therapy. She was acting like if I hung out with the Qweer crowd long enough I would "evolve" into being more masc/masc attracted
No. 435783
>>435732As
>>435769 said, it's more of an individual woman thing than a bi vs lesbian thing. There's highly feminine lesbians and masculine bi women, after all. That being said, presentation is skewed across sexualities, with lesbian culture favoring masculinity a lot more than bi and straight women, to the point where it's an expectation that a lesbian will be masculine in some way (unless she's hyperfeminine as a performance of sorts, maybe), and lesbians themselves often have that expectation. IME, for some reason, bi women tend to be a lot more varied in presentation and often don't have that expectation of masculinity towards other women or see it as some sort of ideal. But of course, that still boils down to the individual, and that's not even touching on the subject of "bi culture" kek
No. 435984
>>435439>she is in an open relationship >I'm afraid of getting attached Instant no
Why would you even trust a total stranger to be telling the truth, "open relationship" is 9/10 times a code for "I'm cheating, are you ok with that or gullible enough to believe me"
No. 436773
>>436771I feel like you’re mocking me. This really isn’t funny to me. I am so tired of feeling like I have no control over what my brain decides randomly to be attracted to. It’s always out of left field.
>be into girls as a teen, suddenly switch to liking short hunky men>be into short hunks for years, suddenly switch to exclusively liking tall thin women>emerge from 2 year long tall thin women phase to liking “bear” type dudesI’m just sick of it and want it to stop. I’m done. I don’t want to live this way anymore. It was bad enough before but liking this type of man is so disgusting to me it makes me truly hate myself.
No. 436778
>>436773is this
triggered by people you know in real life or tv characters or something? I just don't really understand why bicycle posters talk like they're being held prisoner and dragged around on a leash by their own pussy but it makes perfect sense if you had a crush on a hairy fat guy.