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No. 257769

Previous threads:
>>121374
>>40202
>>22555
>>>/w/179758
>>>/w/199602
>>>/w/209757

Taylor R is a “hardworking” “self-made” “successful” former model and Youtuber from Canada whose main claim to fame used to be copying Dakota’s embarrassing 2012-2015 living doll phase. She’s since abandoned this endeavor to copy Casey Neistat, the Kardashians, Jenna Marbles, Safiya Nygaard, and Valeria Lipovesky, among others. In the past, she focused on bad DIY videos and boring 30-minute vlogs in which she recaps serious challenges from her week, including hiring assistants, eating food, drinking coffee, exercising, seeing various scam artists (fortune tellers, naturopathic healers).

Her husband, Tom Lip is a successful businessman. One of his companies, MenClub, was exposed for featuring at least 8 underage (age 12-16) girls in skimpy clothing on their site. After news of this spread, Taylor made two videos defending the right of men to ogle children (it’s “cultural”! Don’t like, don’t click!), stated it’s just one or two people who hate her, and insisted that she was never an escort, a claim no one ever made seriously.

Taylor herself has started her own business, TOAT, which is, alas, currently completely abandoned for pandemic and motherhood reasons.

Ever since her successful carrier(s) faded, she focused on her IVF "journey", more about which can be found in previous threads. The said journey resulted in a new carrier - one of a kind and never seen before family and childcare vlogging! Along with it came mini lectures about Traditional Chinese medicine and post-partum confinement, presented as universal truth and law.

After noticing a decline in interest to the new content, she suddenly remembered that she had many cultural shocks when she first moved to Hong Kong a decade ago and started making reels and TikToks about the newest trending topic, accompanied by walls of text explaining the said customs.

Beware the white knights and stans in Taylor’s thread. Focus on the milk and ignore the filler, farmers.

Taylor’s Links:
https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.R.Official
https://www.instagram.com/taytay_xx/
https://www.youtube.com/user/TaylorR1488
https://www.tiktok.com/@tay_richard
https://twitter.com/iamtay_tay
https://toat.com
https://www.instagram.com/toat.co

Tom Lip's controversial site for men: https://www.menclub.hk/

Old links (no longer updated):
http://lovetaylor.com/
http://www.weibo.com/taylorrichard
http://lineblog.me/taylor/
https://ameblo.jp/iamtaytay/
http://taytay.zipper.jp/
http://www.cchan.tv/clipper/taylor

No. 257771

>>257769

lol I’ve seen her weeb facts but are they even true or just a copy & paste of other TikToks?

No. 257785

>>257769
Idk why people hate on her so much, other than her creepy husband she’s totally benign and she’s obviously naturally good looking.
Where’s the milk?

No. 257793

>>257785
She originally gained the attention of LC for skinwalking Koots a few years back. I don't think anyone here hates her they're just here to observe and use her threads for infighting kek.

No. 257822

>>257769
>>257785
go look through old threads or old jvlog threads
basically got famous for being a failed idol in Japan. Did a bunch of a cringe bizarre stuff that caused a lot of second hand embarrassment. After she failed, kinda pretended to be a self made influencer when in reality was hiding ceo bf funding her.
BUT she moved past all that just settled as a housewife/mom. But I think most can sense there's just something off about her/them that you just can't put your finger on. Always has been that way.

No. 257841

>>257785
>naturally good looking
And you wrote that under the thread pic with her bee stung face?

No. 257842

>>257785
Then don’t visit this thread. Don’t you know how lc works?

No. 257847

Latest video. Very boring and pretty much useless. Noting interesting or remotely milky. It's obvious she posted it just for the sponsorship.

No. 257875

>>257847
god her face. the brows. the total lack of expression. it makes her look so off. if she likes working as a model or 'talent,' she needs to stop doing so much. idk if it is just me but it makes her look older because she never looks genuinely emotive.

No. 258041


No. 258123

>>257785
I dont hate her at all, she's just vanilla but…
>naturally good looking
She doesnt look natural at the all. Plus she has a pretty average look, nothing to write home about.

>>257822
That's such a good way to put it like there's something not quite right about them but what it is is hard to pinpoint.

No. 258200

>>258123
Nta but I personally think she was pretty good looking in the old modelling shots before she had her Koots/idol phase. Granted that was a long, long, time ago before all the procedures that gave her a pillow face.

No. 258268

>>258123
Her face honestly looks fine to me and I like that she's bland tbh. Unlike someone like BubzBeauty, Taylor didn't get boring or at least got re-interesting. TikTok probably helped her with that a lot and now with mommy-content, she's got a whole different crowd.

No. 258281

>>258268
she's never been more boring than now. She only gets viewers now because she can be a good white woman supporting traditional Chinese stuff in HK. No words about anything controversial, heavily pushing pseudoscience about how confinement is a miracle that even cured her acne, all the late content about "shocking" HK practices. It's clear she and Tom have a deal with the government in some way. Natalie stopped being her assistant because she wanted to take a political stance. It must have been maddening to stand there filming a ditzy white woman get worshipped for being rich and pretty, while HKers lose their freedoms. She doesn't have a new crowd. She has the support of pro-Chinese government. It's part of why she did her whole preg journey there too, even though they had/have an apt in Toronto where she could have gone for months to be with family. Granted maybe taking Rosie would not have been possible, so it can be explained that way. But imagine going through all those treatments and birth without a single female relative or native speaker around. Not ideal and actually baffling that she never expressed concern about this.

No. 258285

>>258281
Go away, racesperg. Personally don't watch her because she's white. Highly doubt it's why a lot of people watch her. It's about vlogging about a different country, not the fact she's white in a different country.

No. 258312

>>258285
do you understand how China benefits from a 'pretty' Western woman, wife of a local rich guy, glossing over the serious censorship and problems of the puppet HK government while embracing Chinese traditinal medicine and fortune telling and confinement? It's a boon for them. It is a kind of propaganda. There are some interesting academic articles about the different tactics used for propaganda by Chinese gov employees. One involves leveraging a foreigner and showing how China's way of doing X is superior. For example, we got exactly zero complaints from Taylor about the covid response in HK despite the obvious issues with how it is being handled. whatever. I'm not a racesperg. I just find her whitewashing of everything and lack of charity disgusting. Her husband is the same. Wasteful and entitled.

No. 258314

>>258312
and they have a tie with a HK cultural gov office (fuckin laughable), who sponsored in part that awful French video. Another anon brought it up. I mean, she was never genuine anyway (or just completely self-absorbed) so why not be disingenuous for Chinese bux. I guess no one is surprised.

No. 258322

>>258312
>>258314
Most of her fans are from 10+ years ago. Stop shitting up the thread with your race shit

No. 258339

I am so sad this new thread was started before the autistfag went on to reveal Taylor as a Chinese Government Spy. Would have made a great thread pic.

No. 258362

>>257785
she's the least genuine person i've ever seen tbh. and her relationship with tom and fetishizing asians is sketch

No. 258545

>>258362
Fetish where?

No. 258655

>>258545
"my hapa baby!" "our mixed babies hehe!" "what it's like in an asian family!" no one says this shit except her

No. 258694

>>258655
That's not being racist though on her part because it is true for her. You're trying to find reasons to be upset.

No. 259086

>>258694
no one's upset you schizo. it's obsession with asian people and it's weird.

No. 259186

>>258281
>But imagine going through all those treatments and birth without a single female relative or native speaker around
I think she videocalls family and friends very often, and the staff she has shown in videos speak English.
She seemed to latch onto her pui yuet quite hard though which I think shows how much she misses irl family in these times.

No. 259223

>>259186
Weird tinfoil by anons to think she ignores her family 24/7 just because we don't get videos or stories about them

No. 259229

>>259223
I don't think anon meant that, rather being away from family members who could help and support her with childcare. Carol seems to be filling in that role. You just can't babysit through a videocall or ask for advice any moment with the timezone difference.

No. 259247

>>259229
So is the issue that she has help? In the US, childcare outside of family is so common due to work. Probably same with Canada.

No. 259272

>>259247
Not physical help - mental and emotional support and someone you can seek childcare advice from.

No. 259320

>>259272
New, first-time mom needs proxy help/advice. Shocker.

No. 259324

>>259320
Fuck off or learn to read.

No. 259517

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I guess the girl boss era didn't end after all.

No. 259526

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>>259517
rise and grind~ it’s hard work window shopping on taobao to upsell wholesale polyester pants again

No. 259532

>>258281
The main reason this is baloney is because note how specific she is about HK. She doesn't really mention China as it is now. If she were mentioning China as a whole, I might be willing to share the tinfoil hat with you, nona.
>>258655
Lmao you are not around many white women who have mixed babies, then.

No. 259735

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Lmao, did she absolutely have to take a blurry, scary AF selfie for this?

No. 260034

>>259735
lmfaooo girl Levi is not kissing you he's looking for a nipple. probably hungry

No. 260046

Kid was chewing on his finger, she removed his hand from his mouth and he went for her nose but she thinks he is kissing her lol

No. 260051

>>260046
Well, he definitely didn't mean it, babies that age don't know what they're doing - mostly copying what adults do, but someone has to tell her you're not supposed to kiss your babies on the lips (weird anons DON'T fucking jump at this, it's for health reasons).
What was more meh for me was her constantly glancing at the camera. You're supposed to enjoy "cute" moments instead of trying to film every fucking thing that happens in your meaningless life.

No. 260075

>>260051
It makes me cringe when parents kiss their kids on the lips ew can’t do nothing but eyeroll at her shit it’s so obvious she only wants to look perfect to the outside world. Has she ever shown how EW-san is interacting with the child?

No. 260118

>>259517
Is her husband still a sex trafficker?

No. 260151

>>260051
yeah he thought it was a nipple, kek
I agree about the constant obsession with the camera though. Sick behavior.

No. 260162

>>260075
It's a baby and people do this with their pets.

No. 260166

>>260075
yeah, there's some videos of him interacting with the child. but he has no idea how to take care of Levi without Taylor around. in one of her vlogs where she went to disneyworld, she had to continually check up on them and tell him what to do.

No. 260243

>>260166
>he has no idea how to take care of Levi without Taylor around
Or is this because the only time you see him interact is when Taylor is filming him? How the hell would you know this outside of what is posted?

No. 260292

>>260162
I also never kiss my dog on the lips (?) or would let him lick my mouth it’s weird and nasty

No. 260305

>>260292
This must be burger bait or something, it is incredibly normal for a mother to kiss her infant on the lips. I know physical affection is saved only for members of the polycule in the US, but in most parts of the world no one questions a mom pecking a BABY, not even a kid, on the lips. Nitpick like that and I see the WK’s point. Now Taylor can’t love her son but she also can’t be frigid with him. No winning for a mommyvlogger i guess.

No. 260312

>>260305
I don't even know how that was even whiteknighting. This shit isn't milk, was never milk, and anons like >>260292
just throw things into the thread and hope to God something sticks to be controversial. I don't take anything posted by these idiots as serious, but they get so pissy when you question their dumbass takes.

No. 260314

>>260312
I meant in general, the WKs in this thread that say Taylor has no milk anymore. I agree because the reach to make something out of a mom kissing her baby is absolutely retarded and is a sure sign she isn't milky at all anymore.

No. 260318

>>260305
derailing and infighting, nice. US ain't relevant here.

No. 260320

>>260312
compläin in meta, whiny nonna

No. 260409

>>260243
lmao did you not even read the rest of my comment? watch her video where she goes to disneyworld and has to leave tom alone with levi. she has to tell him how to do everything before she leaves.

No. 260427

>>260409
As moms usually have to do. Doesn't mean she doesn't trust him, extra worrying when you're away from your baby makes sense. Is this really an issue?

No. 260461

>>260409
It sucks, but it's sadly completely "normal". There are even terms for it- "Weaponized incompetente" or "Paternal Unerperformin". Many men can't do the simplest tasks regarfing household and childcaring. Either they don't bother to learn, because it is considered the "woman's task", or they deliberately don't do it correctly or pretend not to know how to do it to avoid having to do a task. :(
Does it make it better that Tom seems to be a man like this? No, absolutely not. But it is certainly not a fault that's exclusive to him.

No. 260463

>>260461
I can't type. Obviosuly it is supposed to be "Weaponized incompetence" and "Paternal Underperforming"

No. 260464

>>260461
Who cares if it's his sooper special fault or not?

No. 260487

>>260461
Men think the deal is you birth, raise and school kids, do any housework, cooking, whatever that is needed, and asking them to help is akin to, in their minds, changing the deal they signed up to.
Of course men pretend to be in a partnership (with words only, no actions) since women do actually need help from their husbands and would be unwilling to commit to marriage and kids if they realised they will never get any true effort at help from him, but the men never intend on actually helping and find any request for help insulting, and breaking the terms of the deal they wrote and signed in their head kek

Same as when women look for boyfriends and dates, the deal the man thinks is happening is a very convoluted search for cock and sex, and all the other stuff about relationships, shared interests and feelings is just some frilly act you have to go through to get the true deal which is actually "want cock? tick box Y/N"
Men just spend their lives maneouvering around women's complex frills and pomp when the deals men make up in their heads and think we agreed to are very simple and not great for the woman.
This is why "weaponised incompetence" is so across the board and rarely punished. Pretending their conscious, lifelong choices are an "accident" when they never intended on doing any of that work. At least in Taylor's case Tom has the money to hire help if needed, most women are just left with zero help and struggling.

No. 260488

>>260487
She gave him instructions and over freaks out when she's not with her child. This isn't sure conspiracy about Tom. Parents do this to teachers too when dropping kids off and with nannies and anyone else not them.

No. 260663

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Is Levi wearing a face mask?

No. 260664

>>260663
Looks like it kek is this regulation in hk? Maybe because of the pollution?
Had to kek at her grandpa butt in these pants

No. 260681

>>260664
Plus her arms give away her age. She can pump her face all she wants, but it's the small things that give away the truth.

No. 260691


No. 260694

>>260664
Kids under the age of 2 are exempted from mask requirements. She didn’t put a mask on him before they all got it, I guess she got scared about his health and decided to mask him up. It’s not uncommon to see local kids under the age of 2 in shields and baby masks.

No. 260698

>>260691
From what I've read and heard, it's not recommended for babies to wear masks.

No. 260714

>>260698
Yea isn’t he still in the rage of sudden baby death? I mean he’s not gonna die in her arms but it’s a time frame where the breathing of an infant is very vulnerable isn’t it?

No. 260727

>>260714
>>260698
Why don't you guys Google at least even a little? As of yesterday:
>People who do not wear a mask face a fixed penalty of HK$5,000, or a maximum fine of HK$10,000 if they are found guilty in court.

This is in HK. Not China, HK. This includes children and babies, so what exactly do you want them to do and Chinese/HK CDC has nothing to do with US recommendations and they also don't have to follow WHO guidelines either. Here is a guideline from a health sector in HK: https://www.fhs.gov.hk/english/health_info/poster/30141.html

>Face mask (including surgical masks and cloth face coverings) is not recommended for children under the age of 2 years without supervision.

>For newborns and young children under 2, there would be a chance of suffocation or other health risks if face mask is not properly used. In addition, young children like to touch or pull the mask on their face which increase the chance of infection.

Baby is supervised and it's fitted just fine, so probably won't suffocate. This isn't milky. What a reach and for what?

No. 260744

>>260727
ah stfu already. No people who aren't in HK like you know about this.
>This isn't milky. What a reach and for what?
Did you miss the part where the person who posted that simply asked a question? You need to get a real job and stop whatever you think you're doing here, because it's really top autist

No. 260747

>>260727
oh and did you inspect the "fitting" of the mask? You are so weird. How would you know how well it's fitted. All you needed to do was tell us that in China's satellite state, babies have to wear masks, and the rest of us could live without your defense of poor little Taylor

No. 260754

>>260744
>simply asked a question
>someone escalated it to sudden baby death

Yeah, explaining the law and the fines makes sense.

No. 260766

>>260754
yeah, someone above asked about SIDS - literally "sudden infant death syndrome." It's fine to explain the law, it's dumb to REEEE about how everything isn't milk and how dare people not have a finger on the pulse of HK regulations. What's more interesting is that the outdoor mask mandate has been in force since 2020 and Taylor has violated it plenty of times.

No. 260859

>>260663
Imagine if dolly taylor from 2016 saw this one lugging a baby around hong kong while they both wear masks, do you think she'd believe that was her future?

I kinda expected Tom's cash to make it more of a luxury affair for Taylor (more help, specifically) but she seems to be taking on a lot of work.

No. 260944

>>260859
She looks nice here though, why would she hate herself

No. 261015

>>260859
Well no, probably she wouldn't have anticipated a global pandemic necessitating surgical masks for certain countries. So yes that would be a surprise, but having a baby 6 years later and looking pretty decent wouldn't be some huge shock nonnie. I think she's living a pretty nice life for a new mom, with some help but she does stuff herself as well. Honestly she's just not that milky anymore. The fact that her lifestyle is funded by Tom's creepy (or at least formerly creepy) online magazine empire is bad, but Taylor herself just isn't milky. She's often cringey, as much as any mommy vlogger or white person in a foreign country vlogger, but that's it. I'm sure 2016 Taylor would think her baby is cute and be glad that she "bounced back" quickly, body wise.

No. 261018

>>261015
The search for milk like >>260663 and >>259735 the past several months is just… so confusing.

No. 261110

>>260859
the dolly childish thing was a phase. her passion was always appearances and blogging and that remains even with a child so i'd say she's pretty content. she's statistically late to have a baby anyway, most married women will pop out a baby at 25 and enjoy it just fine.

No. 261130

>>261110
Get over her age already at which she had a baby already. It's fucking stupid to hear other women force this young mother idea on other women. Countless people have kids over 30. You sound like a scrote with your logic.

No. 261192

>>261110
Nope. Not nowadays anymore. AT 25 mmost women are still going to university or just started at their first job after a degree or job traning.

Couln't find a worldwide chart, but in the EU the average age is around 30 with multiple countries like Italy or Span where the average age for women to get their first child is after 30. So Taylor's age to get her first child is completely normal.

No. 261232

>>261192
Handmaiden anons give me such embarrassment. Scrote groomer logic drilled into them about young mothers, gotta feel bad for them.

No. 261397

>>260427
i feel bad for you if your husband can't even take care of your child on his own. please don't reproduce.

No. 261401

>>261397
Do everyone a favor and never tell your husband anything, but 'Goodbye' if he watches your child alone. Don't remind me about milk in the fridge, or remind him he's holding the baby a little wrong, or that he overdressed her and will overheat due to it..

Anon, be realistic.

No. 261457

>>261401
>>261397

Anon needs to prove that her nigel is special and a totally competent dad and not a manbaby like 100% of men actually are, try it and see kek. Just leave him and the baby to their own devices and hope everyone is still alive when you return.

No. 261491

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Tom dated Cynthia Ip, aka cynbunny, whom he promoted from a blogger to BE editor, before he started dating Taylor, who was also being employed and promoted by his companies. There was a question about his prior relationships being intertwined with business. Yes, it's something netizens noticed.

No. 261494

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>>261491
commenter writes "relationship"

No. 261499

>>261494
>>261491
So? How fucking long ago was this?

No. 261504

>>261499
Well I read the old thread and someone linked to that forum but didn't say who he dated >>>/w/246785

No. 261506

I wish taylor would go full anachan and tell us her diet and exercise practices in detail. I think she looks great

No. 261544

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I generally don’t post in the Taylor thread, but my eyes rolled back into my head when I saw this story post about clothes that can “grow through life with you”. This outfit is less than a year old. I know that she’s gone through different body changes with her pregnancy but having some clothes that fit before and after a pregnancy would not be even slightly novel for most women

My least favorite Taylor videos have always been the ones where she’s cleaning out her outlandishly massive wardrobe that’s overflowing with every single micro trend that’s arisen in the past year, throwing away sacks of relatively new clothing. It’s such an insane spectacle of waste and reckless consumption and it really bothers me that she presents it as a normal lifestyle choice to her hundreds of thousands of followers.

No. 261570

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also rolling my eyes hard at the “outfit that follows you for a lifetime~” less than a year after buying it. she’s really giving sister wife/long lost duggar from the back though

No. 261574

>>261570
>>261544
This looks fine? Kek

No. 261615

>>261544
Lmao, I keked, too. I mean, she does have clothes that she has worn for years, but out of all of those she chose an ill-fitted skirt that's not even a year old.
At least she doesn't pretend to be a sustainable, vegan kween.

No. 261616

>>261491
>>261494
An ugly man using his position of power and wealth to get women who are way out of his league? Wow shocking.

>>261544
A golddigger who married an old ugly pedo takes wealth for granted and lives frivolously? Shocking.

You guys are really surprised by either of these things?

No. 261617

>>261616
No, just pointing it out. I mean, that's what gossip is all about - pointing fingers, judging and making fun of other's stupidity. Join the fun.

No. 261620

>>261570
I applaud her for wearing such an unflattering skirt despite her warped body image

No. 261623

>>261616
that office environment must have been weird. Cynthia and Taylor made a video together, even (sailor scout transformation, now deleted). But imagine you're in a position bc you're dating the boss and then he hires the next woman he's salivating over? And during/after the breakup you have to act normal?

I think there is no way Tom grew up dirt poor either, HKUST ain't cheap for a poor family and he's got pics of himself with a new Audi and getting expensive room service in France in 2006 on fb. His sister married a French guy, so she is clearly well educated too. His wasteful and entitled attitude, esp buying random shit, is that of someone who didn't worry much about money. Designer t-shirts, all the camping supplies they bought and never used, two fucking condos in expensive cities.

No. 261626

>>261623
As bad as it sounds, but "poor" is a relative term. For today's Tom his beginnings might seem "humble", although many people could only dream of being that "poor".
Same way as Taylor was "fat" as a child. Some people just live in a bubble and view the world through a very narrow, privileged lens.

No. 261634

>>261506
Considering the issues she has with her body, she is likely counting the days until she can be ana again. Calling it now she'll get a mommy makeover lipo or tummy tuck procedure and pretend it was just diet and exercise.

No. 261638

>>261634
Oh,, I'm sure she will at some point, but given that she's planning a second pregnancy in the nearest future, I'm not sure how wise it is to get it now.

No. 261641

>>261544
>>261570
is it just me or does it seem like her posture changed after her pregnancy? her shoulders seem pushed back or like she developed some forward head tilt. genuinely curious if this is some change that can happen with having a baby

No. 261647

>>261641
Nah, I think it's because of holding the baby. She doesn't seem to have it when she's not carrying him.

No. 261651

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>>261494
Kinda funny cause she's more close to being in toms league than Taylor, she must have been absolutely pissed when a white blonde chick came along and snatched him, we all know a creep like Tom will always pick whoever looks closest to an underage foreign doll

No. 261652

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Looks closer to toms age too, don't get me wrong she's still better looking than his toad ass, but Chinese women settle for ugly rich men all the time and don't really consider it "settling" due to money being super high on their criteria.
If I saw them walking down the street I wouldn't really look twice, where with Tom and Taylor it's so obviously a sugar baby situation, you just know she's repulsed by him sexually, as she should be

No. 261673

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>>261651
yeah though she looks cute to me (I date women) - I'm not attracted at all to Taylor, but that could be her aggressively hetero, bimbo demeanor + her gross defense of Tom's businesses. And Cynthia seems to have had an education + actual hand in running businesses (not sure how well or badly, though). lmfao I saw that Tom gave a "speech" at HKU just like Taylor. He probably got asked again and decided to let Tay do it. The more I look at old Beauty Exchange pics, I see a lot of big jobs Taylor got because of being with BE.

They met via Gary Chung, I guess. He did Taylor's makeup for some job
or maybe this tutorial, but he also was involved with BE from the beginning. picrel: https://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20120520/00315_002.html

No. 261711

>>261641
She has a kid to carry and waddled around for almost 7 months.

No. 261753

>>261673
Her pointy ears are cute.

No. 262004

>>261651
Terrible example to use purikura photos to compare. >>261673 modeled vs oversized granny wearing farquad haired >>261652 is a better comparison. I've noticed a very clear trend where only white people in these threads are told that they're wearing ill fitting clothes or that they look too dowdy, then you got this bitch lol

No. 262026

>>262004
for many years Taylor only posted edited bug-eye photos, but anyway I think one of the two women made that collage to promote something by BeautyExchange, I remember seeing it on FB.

Quit racesperging and being mean about her clothes, this is not her thread and based on her normal look (even in 2011), I don't think she's wearing that thing seriously or by choice. Why do you keep calling her a bitch, too? Her existence and past don't make her Taylor's "rival," the situation just says a lot about Tom and how he doesn't care about making a toxic office for everyone. But we knew that already, toat has BE and MC people working for it. Tom must have paid or someone owed him a favor, since that dead website was mentioned as a top HK site in some 2022 list. Like hell it is. It's meant to be the Tay version of Goop, no HKers would read it or shop the nonexistent inventory.

No. 262046

>>262026
Anon seems genuinely unhinged. I think both women our out of Tom's league if it wasn't already blantanty obvious. Why are they so insistent on putting her down to make Taylor look good?

No. 262062

>>261638
She'll put it off until they're done with having kids.

For sure she might claim she had a procedure and downtime due to pcos or endo ala Chloe Bennet then come out skinnier in a few months with an endless stream of body check photos.

No. 262064

>>262026
Didn't read that as racesperging at all. Gotta agree. >>261652
This is a terrible, ugly, unflattering, cut. Ugly trim. Looks like Mikan made it. >>261544
Then you have Taylor in something that fits, shows silhouette, not overly baggy and stylish (neutrals are popular AF in these countries). Anons do this a lot.

No. 262068

>>262062
Isn't everyone on social media body checking by the logic If they're posting full body photos?? This is only count if you're turned sideways

No. 262073

>>262064
>only white people

You are comparing a photo taken under cheap fluorescent light and 7(?) years old to an edited photo taken with a good camera yesterday. So someone got a bad haircut and color last decade. There's no reason to shit on her just because she was with frogman before holy Taytay. You are gross for doing it and need to work on your internalized misogyny.

No. 262074

>>262064
>stylish
>neutrals so popular
fuck are you blind, anyone can see that the baggy dress pic is really old.

No. 262087

>>262074
Doesn't change it

No. 262315

>>262068
Are you stupid? I'm "just asking" the same way you "just asked" if posting full body pics is body checking.

No, normal people who just post full body pics of themselves aren't "body checking." That isn't what body checking is. People say this about Taylor because she spent the majority of her pregnancy wearing outfits, PJs, and workout wear from her pre pregnancy days and would always post either the date she got the outfit (to prove she can still fit into her pre pregnancy clothes during pregnancy), or post a side by side comparison of herself in it before pregnancy and during pregnancy to show how she can still fit into those outfits.

I can't stand the fake obtuse Tay defenders.

No. 262335

>>262315
She posted those Before & After pregnancy to show you guys how big her Belly got.

No. 262368

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>>262335
Sure, Jess, and she didn't freak out when she didn't bounce back in a matter of weeks and kept whining about having nothing to wear, because shockingly most of her pre-preg clothes didn't fit her etc. Tbf, she still haven't found peace with her "new body" till this day, proved by her recent post about the difficulties of motherhood reel.(hi cow)

No. 262369

>>262368
PP body might also mean the stretchmarks, missing the feeling of carrying the baby, weight gain, loose skin.. It's not always wanting to be skinny, anon. Grow up.

No. 262377

>>262369
she has one stretchmark. use your brain.

No. 262387

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imagine being hired as taylor’s camera person (but never spoken to or acknowledged, we made the mistake of buying a friend once already with assistant natalie) and your assignment is sitting on the floor with this family in their sweats while they gut a pumpkin. what a weirdly private/family thing to have a stranger over to your house for to make ~content~

No. 262394

>>262387
Who cares? A camera person is exactly what the job says. This isn't done random job, its something that has existed even before vlogging. Trying to make it weird only makes you weird, anon.

No. 262400

>>262394
No one has a camera person around almost daily to document family/private moments. Get out of Taylor's ass.
Sure, there's no milk in op's post, but there's nothing to defend either WK-chan.

No. 262425

>>262400
Vloggers do. Get over it. It's her job. Weird nitpick when it's exactly as it should be because of what she does. I hope they get fired now just because you clearly hate them existing. Bring real milk, not this weak shit.

No. 262657

>>262387
is it not carol behind the camera?

No. 262659

>>262657
Anon didn't even post the video, so it could just be a tripod for all we know lol

No. 262695

>>262387
“Make sure it’s straight, babe” lmao she’s always talking down to him. I really wonder what their relationship is like when the cameras are off

No. 262714

>>262659
not our fault you can't be bothered to watch the content you are commenting on. Once again, this is not a place to archive Taylor's social media. Watch the shit where she posts it.

No. 262838

>>262695
How's that talking down to him?

No. 263201

>>262714
people archive shit on here all the time lol how else do you think we have receipts?

No. 263214

Micro-milk. Guess who finally admitted to having a nanny/domestic help. I thought she would never disclose it.

No. 263217

>>263201
Receipts and reposts of useless reels are different things. Especially if there's no milk.

No. 263227

>>263214
Lmao. I keked more at her "busy day" that went well and she did everything on her to-do list. All of that with the nanny taking care of the baby for the majority of the day. I guess she's indeed back to her "girlboss" era, oh, sorry, it's been updated to "working mom".
It seems like that they have another bathroom for Levi (or guests). I don't remember her showing it in previous videos.

No. 263244

>>263214
And? It's not like she was hiding it. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. She's taking care of the kid for the most part, a maid or helper isn't any different from a family member doing that exact same stuff to help around the house and help the mom. Also yeah, rich people have housekeepers.

No. 263264

>>263244
>a maid is the same as a family member
please.

No. 263303

>>263244
You’re so obvious. How much does she pay you?

No. 263310

>>263214
didn't she just post a story on instagram about how ~~~hard~~~ being a mom is? yet this video she looks like she has it so easy, especially with a nanny. i find it such bullshit when people talk about how it's hard being a mom.

No. 263323

>>263310
The fact that you equate struggling and doing everything on your own to having it hard as a mom is really sad.

No. 263345

>>263323
Lmao. Is it not? How about having to go to a real job so can provide for yourself and your family - not making silly videos a couple hours a day, AND taking care of a baby WITHOUT "like a family member" domestic help to do the house chores.
I'm not saying everything in Taylor's life is smooth and easy, but most of it is, let's be real. Her whining about the difficulties of motherhood is in the same category as her complaining about the difficulties of making business choices for her "brand".

No. 263357

>>263244
>its not like she was hiding it
she literally was hiding it all this time lmfao

No. 263387

>>263345
She doesn't have to struggle like that so you need to calm down. You sound like those parents who said they had to March through the snow to get to school.

No. 263445

>>263357
lol truly. she’s got a “domestic helper” so someone’s cooking, cleaning, taking care of the baby and picking up rosie’s shit all day so taylor can find time to jump rope on the roof and play pretend work. ~hectic~ working mom life alright

No. 263446

>>263387
Of course she doesn't have to struggle like that. No one should struggle like that.
The point is that her constant whining about her "hard life" as a "working mother" is inadequate when comparing it to what other mothers go through on a daily. She has a very sheltered and comfortable life, but likes to pretend that it's some kind of challenge and she's a hero for living it.

No. 263447

>>263446
I can't imagine being such a pick-me like you. Holy shit.

No. 263484

>>263447
Either you don't know what pick-me means or are a rare breed of dumb. Try harder, WK-chan lol

No. 263576

>>263445
lmao yep. and I don't think Levi has ever cried once on camera, he's a very calm baby. must be hard having constant good moments with your child lol

No. 263579

>>263576
Lmao, watch her edit two seconds of him crying into the next vlog/reel to prove how hard it is.

No. 263580

>>263357
Jokes aside, I love how we keep predicting her moves months before she actually reveals it. The breastfeeding saga, the nanny/dh, the working girl boss mom act… When is she gonna start crying about not being pregnant again? It's about time.

No. 263591

>>263446
Who the fuck cares? It's hard for her personally and I watch her videos for her, not to imagine how a working class mother raises her kids. I don't understand what you imagine people watch Taylor's content for. It's obvious she has money, a lot of people like watch
ing rich people go about their lives.

No. 263598

>>263214
kek tom ate dog treats

No. 263599

>>263580
Because she's literally just doing everything that other vloggers have already done. You guys aren't predicting something when it's literally what people do.

No. 263616

>>263591
why are you here

No. 263626

>>263591
Too bad we don't have PULL so tards who think this is a fansite would just stay there.

No. 264570

>>263445
jump rope with covid, don't forget

I bet nanny got covid too

No. 264571

>>263598
I bet it was a hidden ad for the treats. I love how Taylor needs someone to do 'artistic' laif-out ads for her and then just leaves the shit on the counter for the help to pick up Lazy twat. Same reason she dumps clothes on the floor.

No. 264826

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Lmao, talk about first world problems. Tom "canceled" Taylor's stupid (and wasteful) birthday cake tradition and asked for a simple cake. She's literally sulking in her stories lmao. "Good" news is he allowed her to order a custom one for Levi's birthday, which begs a question - who's the cake(s) really for, Taylor or Levi/Tom?

No. 264907

>>264826
First birthday is probably a smash cake and yeah, being upset about a tradition you were looking forward to sucks. I'm surprised no one's upset that she has to plan her own birthday and Tom's birthday and the baby's birthday. She shouldn't have to plan her own birthday. If Tom is still expecting her to plan her party or whatever she wants to do but not let her get the cake she wants as if hes in charge of the party when hes not, hell no

No. 264991

>>264826
Yeah, instead of a cake costing hundreds of euros, she got one from Joël Robuchon that still cost about 70, plus whatever the customization cost. Just for them, you know.

The two huge artistic cakes during the heights of the pandemic were the absolute worst though, what is the point? Tom basically said they tasted like crap, no wonder since they let them sit for a week or longer without refrigeration. so it all got thrown away.

No. 264993

>>264907
>no one's upset
one person posted. she didn't talk about her own birthday, iirc?

last two years I thought Tom did stuff for her. She got a designer cake one year, and he takes her to dinner. He always gives her spendy presents. dw she'll get some designer bag or jewelery or ugly sneakers

I have screenshots of the cake she bought him, will upload at home.

No. 265001

>>264993
Then why did >>264826 say that she was upset she had to get a plain cake, but the baby could still have a fancy one?

No. 265035

>>265001
Because she WAS upset that he didn't want a custom cake for his birthday and she now has to wait till March to get to get "creative". She didn't mention her own birthday though.

No. 265199

>>265035
I'm still with the anons who think that cutting off a tradition like that is kind of really gross on Tom's part. Especially if hes making her plan everything for everyone's birthday at all times. For all anon's no he might have control over everything financially including her income.

No. 265202

>>265199
Agreed. She definitely wasn't expecting it and probably looked forward to the preparations or already had ideas in mind. Otoh, it's a life she chose. I hate to blame women, but in this case, I have little empathy. In the grand scheme of things, it's really not a big deal. She was just asked to find a different toy.

No. 265204

>>265202
Yeah I'm not mad that she's mopey about it. She's probably one of those people who plans things out way advance too because the stuff that she does, things like cakes, reservations, and with how COVID lockdowns are in HK and China, do need to be ordered like months in advance to be prepared.

No. 265225

>>265204
quite often she waits until the last minute though. In Japan it was becoming a real issue, she only had one option for some custom cake she wanted because she waited so long to do it. Then she was even late to the party on top of it. It was either Mimei's or uh… that other jvlogger who likes Pokemon… not Sharla. Anyway it was for that vlogger.

No. 265229

>>265199
What? "really gross on Tom's part" ?T WTF. It's HIS birthday. It should be about HIM and what makes him happy, not about creating content for Taylor's instagram. If he doesn't want a big fat ass cake that's way too huge for 2 people, that costs hundreds of $ and but tastes like crap, that's his right and nothing is "gross" about it. If my husband kept gifting me stuff I don't liek I'd also tell him and I think I would have every right to do so.

No. 265267

>>265225
>this one time we have documented
So..not all the time and not usually.

No. 265279

>>265267
Jesus, does she pay you for nitpicking to WK? She quite often does struggle with time management and planning, the most recent (major) one being the baby car seat and the whole spiel around it. I'm not gonna rehash it all, the old threads are there, feel free to comb through.

No. 265282

>>265279
No1currs

No. 265304

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>>265229
yeah I agree!
here's the cake she got, my internet has been sucking sry for delay

No. 265306

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>>265229
wah wah look at filler face
she probably didn't order it in time, so it didn't arrive on time.

This L necklace is not making me think of Levi, Taylor

No. 265342

>>265225
It was Mimei's cake. She designed and tried to order it less than a week before the party and got turned down by several bakeries. Also didn't help that she couldn't speak Japanese and wanted it to be vegan, even though Mimei isn't vegan. Then Taylor and crew took those embarrassing af birthday photos where they shoved the birthday girl to the back.
>>265229
Not to mention he funds her entire lifestyle and career… and probably the one paying for these cakes.

No. 265346

>>265267
I gave one example but there are many. Most of her lookbooks were made way too late. Clothes that she used, people wanted to buy them and they couldn't, since the season was nearly over. As someone in fashion, who knows how seasonal trends and retail works, she definitely should have done better.

No. 265347

>>265342
oh hey thanks. I remember her ridiculing the cake too.

No. 265408

>>265304
>>264826
Lmao, the contrast between their reactions. Taylor acting like it's the ugliest, most boring cake on earth, while it's a fine birthday cake.

No. 265409

>>265408

As a decorator, that random foil in the front, hanging over like a sad piece of parchment, looks terrible. if it was flaked it would make sense, but the only gold is the other half parchment on the back and the candle. The board isn't enough to balance it out. Taylor is right, cake looks pretty underwhelming.

No. 265413

>>265304
This one actually looks edible rather than the custom novelty cakes that cost $200 that they leave to sit on the counter for weeks. That type of icing used for novelty cakes is known to be inedible, plus imo it's tacky to have novelty cakes with characters on them (like something for little kids only) so this is an improvement

No. 265426

>>265202
she could literally have made a decorative cake herself if she wanted to get creative. All he didn't want was another mess of fondant costing hundreds of dollars. But Taylor doesn't want to do it herself because she has to be the "perfect partner" on IG. That means no cake fuck ups.

No. 265429

>>265426
She wanted someone else to spend hours bringing her tacky "creative" ideas to life. The same way she was being "creative" with her five-years-old level of nail "art".

No. 265433

>>265413
Who's to say this didn't cost the same?

No. 265440

>>265433
anon above said this one was 70€, I remember the fondant ones being hundreds

No. 265441

>>265429
samefag but I fucking loled when she put all her husband's favorite shit on a cake and it was all like… money. He likes money. And stuffing his piehole.

No. 265447

>>265304
>cake review
"delicious chocolate cake from famous chef"

not a review

No. 265451

>>265440
Taylor never said a price

No. 265474

>>265451
could have been free like all the other shit she gets. but she never says prices, anons look them up, so what is the point?

No. 265515

>>265474
Now its suddenly free. Stop making shit up.

No. 265593

>>265515
go to robuchon's site yourself and check the price, u sloth. Taylor's word isn't worth anything so no one needs to rely on her for a price.(this is an imageboard. post screencaps)

No. 265620

>>265593
This is an imageboard

No. 265633

What does it matter how much the cake cost? Tom is obviously the one who paid for it, like he's paid for everything else, and it's his birthday, so she should be getting what he wants. It apparently also tasted better than the cakes that Taylor used to get, which is more important anyway.

No. 265650

>>265633
Point. Just another instance of Taylor blowing a molehill into a mountain. Doesn't she see that she's in the wrong here? His wish for his birthday is more important than her "creativity"?
Falls into the same category as her complaining about him using the "decorative" towels, even though she didn't bother to warn him about them being "decorative".

No. 265654

>>265633
Like anons said, if he has control of her finances, she should be allowed to do whatever she wants with her side of it, especially if he wants her to spend money and plan everything else about the party, but not the cake. I get it's his big boy man birthday, but giving her control and then telling her she can't do anything about it, even if she did it out of her own revenue, if fucking controlling. How do you anons completely keep bypassing this part of it?

No. 265655

>>265633
>>265654
Samefag, but post these caps about prices and where they said it tasted better than any other cake. You anons keep saying all this stuff, but refuse to ever post photos about what you are saying and instead nitpick stupid shit like >>261651

No. 265663

>>265654
No, what's controlling is giving the birthday guy the cake that YOU want and not the one that they wanted when it's their birthday, even when they pay everything for you. He just asked for a simple cake my god. She doesn't care about the underage girls on his site, so why should anyone care she couldn't have the cake that she wanted on someone else's bday?

No. 265674

>>265663
Stop bringing up the girls. This was 3 threads ago now and nothing new about it. You just pull random stuff out of your ass to try and derail current conversations. She most likely planned a cake out, as she planned the rest of his birthday, and as a tradition last second cancelations suck. Deposits get lost for pre-ordered cakes like this a lot of the time. It's like all the extra logistics go right over your heads. Yes, Tom wants this and that, then he should plan his own shit and not change his mind last minute like the total loser he is. Focus on one topic, anon.

No. 265678

>>265674
where did she say it happened last minute? It just didn't happen. So fucking what.

No. 265682

>>265674
>stop bringing up the girls
mods, just remember who this poster is. All but one of those girls' underage pics are still on his site. Several under 16.

This poster justifies pedophilia to defend their favorite cow.

No. 265683

>>265682
I'm not defending the exploitation of Russian and Chinese girls. Stop trying to turn this into something it isn't. I don't live in either country, but I know there's nothing anyone here, at least in the US, who can do anything about their age laws or what is allowed. Japan banned that shit, thankfully, and we have every right to criticize Taylor for not being more upset about it, but she has absolutely no control over it either and there's nothing new about the topic to discuss. Bringing it up constantly just seems like a weak attempt to change topics.

No. 265685

>>265683
You're acting like Taylor is being abused and exploited because her husband merely wanted to have a simple, good-tasting cake for his own damn birthday. The minors on Tom's site for middle-aged men are a better example of someone being exploited and Taylor's lifestyle and projects are partly funded by revenue from that site. So why should we care that Taylor didn't get to design Tom's birthday cake this time?

No. 265701

>>265682
>You're acting like Taylor is being abused and exploited because her husband
I didn't say that. Usually in traditional countries, the household has one finance. She isn't in America or Canada, you need to remember that. And because she's a foreigner who is living in HK, even if she's married, there might be contingencies about having a shared bank because of her being a foreigner. This would mean, yes, she would need access to the account and he would most likely be the account holder.

I'm done talking about the girls. I care and there is nothing I can do, you can do, or Taylor can do. Parents need to stop giving these obvious pedo modeling companies, but for some of them it's all the money they can make and at the expense of their children. A lot of them know what they are doing and it's disgusting and not right at all, but unless something new comes up, there's no point to keep bringing these poor girls up and bringing the thread attention to it. CP gets posted to Lolcow constantly, we don't need scrotes trying seeing the mention of them ITT and then go to comb Tom's website for material just because it's legal on Tom's side. >>265685

No. 265708

>>265683
sorry for inconveniencing you by reminding you that this woman made two videos defending her husband's website, lied about her involvement and promotion on it, and blamed "one person" for all the bad PR. She put herself in the middle of it by defending her scrote. many times. and saying how great he is. fuck them both.

No. 265712

>>265701
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Taylor has always entirely depended on Tom's money, even before they were married. She's depended on his money because she's never worked and earned enough to fund her lifestyle, which includes buying expensive custom-made cakes, and Tom is the one who's provided her work in the first place. What is so evil about Tom asking for a simple cake that actually tastes good for his own birthday? He made her "job" even cheaper and easier on her! lol

No. 265713

>>265708
Her promoting the website/magazine isn't the same as her knowing about these girls and every article that existed. Also her defense of it being legal there is a valid. It's shitty, but it's valid because their crap laws allow this. Also yeah, if one person did the article they should get shit for it. You guys know Tom probably doesn't have a single hand in this magazine besides being a shareholder and probably his title, right? Call it defending, don't care, but he probably had no involvement in it either. All around the whole situation sucks, but Taylor can't do anything about it. Also, I never, ever see anyone have this same energy when UK/US/CAN children are photographed in bikinis for magazines and only now are people questioning tv shows showing kids/teens in bathing suits either. There was more uproar about the sprinters in the Olympics having cameras at their crotch than anyone ITT actually caring about any kids involved in exploitation. This is beating a dead horse at this point. You all could literally report the website to Google to have it removed from searches and taken off the website in certain countries due to censorship, but no anons actually care like they say they do. You have options, but let's absolutely only blame Taylor.

No. 265714

>>265712
Acting like she doesn't make money is a pretty bad joke, anon.

No. 265721

>>265714
I said she could never afford her lifestyle with what she earns and in case you didn't notice, her lifestyle requires millions in USD which she doesn't have. She wouldn't have been able to afford those custom cakes if she was paying her own expenses.

No. 265727

>>265721
No..It doesn't cost millions USD for live in HK, anon.

No. 265732

>>265727
Her flat in Clearwater bay is easily 70 MLN HKD which with stamp duty etc would be around 900K USD. And that’s for flats without rooftop access in her estate, so I can only assume having a huge rooftop will generously raised the price. The Canadian flat is over 2 MLN Canadian dollars. They drive a large family tesla, she owns multiple high end bags including few Chanels. When she’s flying anywhere she flies business class. The anon who posted may used millions as a figure of speech but her lifestyle is not something she would afford without Tom, even as a semi popular YT. In fact without his money she wouldn’t even be this famous as he bought her not only freedom to do any content she likes but he also gave her huge push on his platforms, especially Beauty Exchange.
No way in hell she would achieve it on her own.

No. 265733

>>265727
what part of "her lifestyle" don't you understand?

No. 265734

>>265713
almost everything you've written is incorrect. Go do some research. They knew. It's not just kids in bikinis. It's talking about girls' breasts and cup sizes. There were articles advocating for dating underage girls. No, we do not blame Taylor for those articles, but we blame her for defending it.

She accused one person of targeting her. The employee who writes about underage girls a lot never got disciplined or fired. Taylor was presented to their audience like a teen until Tom snapped her up.

People reported the site. You don't have the slightest idea about anything bc you are so far up this pickme's ass.

No. 265735

>>265732
God I know. This is low-balling it all too. They custom renovated the apartment. They wear designer tshirts, have a designer dog, and now a designer baby.

No. 265742

>>265734
Im using kids in bikinis as a norm in places like the US and in magazines.

No. 265744

>>265732
>>265734
23000HKD is like $6000 USD. Shut up.

No. 265748

>>265721

1 million HK is just about $128k USD. You don't need much to love in China and designer is actually cheaper there too due to manufacturing. Some anons really just assume shit about HK, huh?

No. 265750

>>265748
I live in HK. Designer goods are cheaper in HK because there’s no tax on them, not the manufacturing. China has luxury goods tax and they are more expensive there, that’s why prior to Covid you had mainlanders visiting SAR for cheaper luxury products.

You two/that one WK try to paint it like Taylor would live same lifestyle without Tom and like anyone can afford it. As I said, the two properties they own are already few millions USD (2.18 mln CAD and more than 70 mln HKD), all her luxury purses, their clothing, jewelry she has - engagement ring itself was ridiculously expensive, so is the wedding band. Not counting Cartier and Tiffany bracelets. Even their kid wears Burberry that he will outgrow in a month.

The median household income in Hong Kong dropped to $27,100 - that’s like 3500 USD. While Taylor and Tom go for omakase for 5000 HKD per person. I’m sure she as a model would earn that much. And she’s so different from all the white models in HK I’m sure without Tom’s help she would be able to raise in her fame. Beauty exchange owned by Tom - biggest website for women in HK - had nothing to do with it, nothing at all.

No. 265752

>>265750
No one said she doesn't have money through Tom, but if she wanted to live in a nice place, renting, in HK with her money alone, she probably could and she gets, and did get designer stuff, before Tom for free because of modeling and whatnot. Taylor was never a poor bitch. I'm glad someone else agrees that Tom really doesn't have much to do with it until she married him and then their household became shared. Taylor would absolutely be fine and living it up in HK without Tom.

No. 265754

>>265752
She wouldn’t. She would live OK lifestyle but nothing remotely close to this. She herself said she lived in a shared model apartment. She haven’t finished any school. Without Tom’s help she wouldn’t be this popular to upgrade her living from model house. If he didn’t help her out she wouldn’t be the living doll dancing in front of Tokyo tower - he even helped her to move to Tokyo agency. Without his financial support she couldn’t be choosy about the jobs she wants to take as a model. Without his help and beauty exchange she wouldn’t be popular in HK and thus wouldn’t get said sponsorships.

How all that would be possible for Taylor without him? She’s pretty but there’s thousands of white models in HK, she didn’t have any quality that would make her stand. It was BE promotion that put her name out there. Otherwise she would still be doing gigs for 68 clothing or instant pasta like she did prior to being with him.

No. 265755

>>265752
NTA but this is completely untrue. Her work as a model was sporadically mid and low paying at best. Only when it was secretly backed by Tom and he was funding her wardrobe and lifestyle did anything remotely designer enter her life.

She was in HK to secure the bag and he was always her best option. If she truly would have been living it up without Tom, she would have secured a higher net worth man who isn't a complete toad.

No. 265759

>>265755
Saying she would be comfortable without him isn't far fetched.

No. 265762

>>265752
>>265759
she would have aged out of modeling by now and she's too lazy to work any kind of real job, so… no. and even if she did work, she doesn't have the skills or education for anything above min wage so still no. she chose to be a gold digger instead for good reason.

No. 265764

>>265762
Sounding a bit biased, anon. You basically say she will be homeless because she has no skill which is such a blatant reach.

No. 265774

>>265752
>if she wanted to live in a nice place, renting, in HK with her money alone, she probably could
All the asiaboos and weebs who turn to prostitution suggests otherwise, being a white woman in asia is not actually a mealticket and a lone traveler needs a partner from that country for various logistical reasons as well as finance. She has never been able to afford renting on her own in Asia, Tom has been there the whole time

No. 265798

>>265764
not homeless. living a very basic life, paycheck to paycheck without any luxuries is more like it. not sure why you are trying to act like she's a very hard worker who would pull in tons of money to live a luxury lifestyle like she does now… that's just never been true.

No. 265818

>>265798
That seems unlikely.

No. 265819

>>265759
No, she'd still have to share an apartment with other models. She didn't regularly work and models don't earn as much as you think. Not only that, Tom was not only responsible for getting her work, but also largely responsible for how her youtube channel was able to grow. She had a team and he covered costs of travel, hotel stays, outfits, fake apartment, fancy meals, beauty projects, cosmetic procedures, ingredients and supplies for her cooking and diy videos and other content. He's responsible for almost all of her Japan content and she would've have moved there if it wasn't for him. Don't forget she now has a kid she'd have to pay for.

No. 265823

samefag
>>265819
>she would've have moved there if it wasn't for him.
she wouldn't have moved there if it wasn't for him.

No. 265825

>>265774
100%. The one anon insisting she's a millionaire model despite being on the older end of modelling age when she met Tom is delusional and needs to stop.

He had his whole team supporting her because she couldn't be assed to learn the language or do work that didn't fit the outdated living doll aesthetic she was chasing at the time. Tom even paid for the fillers she got that a wk insisted was allergies and totally not the fuckup of a doctor who doesn't know how to work with her bone structure.

No. 265837

>>265825
I don't think $123k USD a year to live luxury is the same as 1Mil.

No. 265851

>>265837
>moving goal posts
>no idea how much luxury costs

123k is not anywhere near enough to afford a lifestyle, kek. Funnily enough, even if you summed up all the model work Taylor ever did without Tom, she still wouldn't pass 100k after agency fees.

No. 265873

>>265851
Sure, anon.

No. 265908

>>265818
anon why do you keep insisting this without explaining why you think so? what kind of job do you think she would have had that would've allowed her to live a luxury lifestyle on her own? again, she would have aged out of modelling, so what do you think she would even be doing for work?

No. 265910

>>265908
Nta, but she probably would have gotten a job working for her family. Don't they own a car dealership or something?

No. 265913

>>265908
Let's put it the other way, why do you assume she'd have no modeling career or acting in the influencer suave as a stable job? She was an influencer before Tom too and with a following. Taylor existed before he was in the picture and she wasn't irrelevant at any point unlike Kota.

No. 265919

>>265913
NTA, but I said it before: before Tom she was just another white model in HK doing instant pasta commercials or clothing shows. She wasn’t even remotely as popular as you think she was. Her fan base started growing when they started dating but he wasn’t officially in the picture. Then together they moved to Japan where she started doing full dolly content in fake room in the apartment he rented for them and paid for. He helped her get to agency in Japan, found people to help her to get jobs without speaking Japanese. In meantime he was promoting her on BE, organized “fan meetings” in HK, paid for trips to Europe which she used as her content.

Now it’s your turn. Why you think she would be this popular without his backing? Yeah, she would probably return to Canada and work for her family as she has no formal education, but I doubt she could make any interesting content without financial backing from Tom and the fact that she is living in Asia which is exotic and interesting for her audience.

No. 265920

>>265913
yeah let's put it another way… why would a pretty young woman have married an old fat ugly pedo, if she could have lived a life of luxury without having to do so?

No. 265921

>>265919
I thought she started to get popular with a very niche crowd back when she had a column in that teen fashion mag?

White foreign girls are a dime a dozen though in the Asian market. Taylor isn't some rare unknown Russian backwoods beauty, but she does have a pretty enough face that works well with editorial stuff.

No. 265927

>>265919
You guys keep ignoring how the influencer space became like it is. Even without Tom, Taylor was using YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.. She was already in the space, popular from the dolly modeling and makeup videos. She wouldn't have gone away and probably could have picked up her own sponsors because of it. She most likely would've been fine without Tom. Surprising, I think she has gotten in less trouble because of Tom. I don't think she would've been a make-up influencer, but probably a haul influencer and that's been popular in the last 10 years and still considering fast fashion. Probably start her own brand or something and then just exist. You don't need much financial backing to get free clothes and stuff from companies if you are just making hail videos. I could also see her trying to travel, probably become a Jvlogger since she used to hang with Sharla and everyone in that space seems fine off and have money to travel constantly.

And sage your shit.

No. 265928

>>265921
Yeah, but certain girls do get popular over others. Models like Gigi Hadid are dime a dozen, but there's only one Gigi Hadid. There's a reason why certain girls stick out and Taylor was big on social media and was in the news and stuff. It doesn't take much to be more noticeable than the other dime a dozen models as long as your name is viral at some point and hers was viral serval times.

No. 265931

>>265928
You keep ignoring the fact she was in HK - it’s not a typical market. There’s a saying 新屎坑 三日香 - new sh*t hole smells good for three days and that’s the span of attention things have in HK. Just because she’s in news one day doesn’t mean she is big. HK gets a lot of random news like girl crawling on the side of the building trying to leave her room or people filming gay couple who had sex and forgot to turn off the lights. It gets on the news and then no one remembers it. Her biggest news was her cosplay on otaku event. Wow, definitely career changing moment.

Also, keep in mind Hadid had their family backing up them, just like Taylor had with Tom. If you want to believe she would make it as big on her own, then do so. Knowing HK’s environment and reality I can say without Tom’s help she wouldn’t be even remotely popular comparing to any local KOL.(learn2sage)

No. 265934

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>>265921
zipper? no. That was via Tom, too.

A good comparison for Taylor is looking at Elyse Sewell from ANTM, who had a successful career in HK and other Asian countries. Her LJ is still up. She was a bona fide model, tall, thin, interesting bone structure - and they were already telling her she was too old and to lose weight in Japan (at age 20-21).

It's a little bit before Taylor's time in HK but not that much earlier. Do you imagine Princess Tay went to castings like these below? I highly doubt it, she was already dating Tom in 2013 and in one of those Apple Daily features, she said her boyfriend (prior to Tom) was Asian and in the financial sector.

https://elysesewell.livejournal.com/5450.html (Japanese agency calls a rail-thin 5'10" woman fat)
https://elysesewell.livejournal.com/314.html (horrible Japan castings with teenagers)
https://elysesewell.livejournal.com/93215.html (ice skating casting)

https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/27795924.html (if you're finding these awful pictures of her everywhere, see Elyse's comment:
>Barf, fuck that! I even told my agency I thought I should be getting paid more for that job, and now those pics are fucking everywhere and hideous.

No. 265935

>>265931
exactly, I'm so sick of all this derailing and licking Taylor's asshole. Go adore her on her own social media. She got where she is via connections, an old guy who likes women who look underage (or are - how old was his previous gf when they were dating? sus) and riding the already-expiring dolly trend.

No. 265936

>>265910
aka not in modeling or in Asia, since that job doesn't come with a visa. Taylor benefited from Tom in terms of him continuously securing her visa as well. Maybe she would have qualified for her entertainment visa regardless but normal models have to keep working to maintain that visa. They wouldn't be turning down jobs because they couldn't wear circle lenses. That is the behavior of someone whose visa is not connected to work.

No. 265937

>>265935
Everything being brought is hypothetical on both sides anyway about what her future would look like and how much she might make, so what the fuck is the point of the convo. Haven't seen anyone defend Taylor either. You need to calm down.

No. 265938

>>265752
models don't get tons of designer goods for free, anon. You sound uneducated.

No. 265939

>>265938
When they can flaunt it on social media, yeah they do. She already does now and she does the same thing we've been talking about which is just utilizing social media. That's why I said even without Tom, I think her early time on the internet would be enough for her to keep gaining followers. She was doing the dolly stuff early online and it was getting popular, even if the group was niche, but she didn't keep the that style either and started doing lifestyle stuff. She kind of reminds me of Roxxsaurus a little in what she probably would have turned in to except because she actually has experience modeling, probably not as low budget and SHEIN experience.

No. 265941

>>265939
She wouldn’t have designer stuff to show off if it wasn’t for Tom and thus wouldn’t be able to get luxury freebies in first place if it wasn’t for him getting her LV and Chanels she’s been showing off in her trip to Paris videos, for which he also paid for.

No. 265951

>>265941
lmao that trip where she pretended to be a normal single teenager, just shopping at designer stores and eating lobster. so relatable.

No. 266023

>>265913
>She was an influencer before Tom too and with a following
>>265939
>her early time on the internet would be enough for her to keep gaining followers

Before Tom, she wasn't an influencer at all. She would post short fetus filtered Kota-lookalike clips and that's it. Anything notable she did is traced back to his company, including him paying for her "dolly" aesthetic which was dead on arrival. She shifted gears to copy top youtubers, while behind the scenes Tom paid youtube thousands monthly to ensure her videos were promoted and showing up as recommendations. What you're seeing is the result of a ton of Tom's money and not Taylor's influence.

>>265927
Taylor wasn't on those channels before Tom. He shot all of her videos that weren't on a tripod, paid for the apartments she was shooting in, and funded the content in them including the "dolly" stuff. Designer brands want to seem aspirational, and only after she showed off having a more luxury life was Tom's company able to land her influencer work with those brands.

>Probably start her own brand

She literally did that with her overpriced dropship taobao and goop copy pasta. Even with Tom's massive backing it still went nowhere because she has no real sense of style and her fans are mostly poorfags living vicariously through her, kek.

No. 266035

>>266023
>her overpriced dropship taobao and goop copy pasta. Even with Tom's massive backing it still went nowhere because she has no real sense of style and her fans are mostly poorfags living vicariously through her, kek.
All true, and also she only stocks one size fits all stuff which is obviously going to be unfashionable and look shit on most people. So like beige, baggy jumpers and coats for $200 aren't gonna fly off the shelves, especially when the fashionable nerd girls online have all been using aliexpress, taobao or whatever since 2015 to get whatever novel piece of polyester shit is trending on Instagram or tiktok, they're not gonna pay $200 for anything.

No. 266038

>>266035
NTA, but those colors are pretty much all the rage and even buildings are following those patterns. I don't know when color is going to be cool again, but the whole minimalist movement in Asian countries and the aesthetic surrounding it, I don't see going away any time soon.

No. 266049

>>265927
She spent years in Japan yet still couldn't figure out how to take the subway. Do you honestly think she would've been able to secure her own sponsors and run her own businesses?
>>265920
Really, nothing more needs to be said. What's with all the WKs in /w/?

No. 266069

>>266035
toat never fails to make me laugh. She even talked about "to a T" meaning a perfect fit. Which no one-size clothing is going to have. (https://toat.com/pages/about) Then the site and IG went completely dead. Guess it was too much work to write vapid "articles" to keep up the facade when the clothing wasn't selling. toat is just an embarrassingly narcissistic shrine to Taylor.

I think it is very telling that there are virtually no traces of actual customers wearing the clothing. She paid a model in Canada to promote the clothes and gave away stuff to Sharla. That's… it. I think I saw one review total.

It's also illegal to sell knock-offs, which she was doing.

No. 266074

>>265934
no, it wasn't zipper, it was an actual Chinese fashion mag I believe. She had like, a little column where she would answer questions, etc. I can't remember the name though. It was before she left for Japan, and wasn't a full-on dolly clone yet.

No. 266076

>>266069
Oh no, how dare you?! She's working hard night and day right now, learning new things and experimenting while she designs her new knock-off collection. And the lack of content and production was because of COVID and maternity leave and… and the one-size-fits-all is because she's a small, handmade business that can't make too many (i.e. more than one) sizes. /s

P.S. Watch her churn out a vlog about her working hard after reading all of this lazy princess talk lol

No. 266079

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>>266074
ok, I found it. She had her own blog section in the Hong Kong version of Vivi magazine. She actually had a nice sense of personal style back then and should have stuck with it.

No. 266092

Tom was involved with Vivi HK at some point and owns the digital version now. In any case, a little column isn't enough to cover rent each month. Nonnies don't understand the cost of things or how much a non-supermodel realistically makes.

No. 266113

>>266092
Post his ownership so we know how its his company. I don't see just being a shareholder, if that's the take, as owning it unless he's 51%

No. 266114

>>265910
Her Canadian family is quite well off, but maybe not as extravagant as Tom. I looked for the video when she went to her fathers wedding but she took it down. I clearly recall her giving a tour of her father’s new luxury house, which he had custom built. I also recall her father joking about taking back his credit card from her. At the time she was also flying business class to visit her family and buying expensive gifts for her friends in Japan.

No. 266116

>>266114
In Japan she was already with Tom for a while

No. 266117

>>266114
Tom paid for her flights, the gifts for her friends and their home in Tokyo.

The father made that joke to prove he wasn't paying for her lifestyle, because even though he runs a dealership he can't afford to bankroll what she was doing. At that time Taylor was still hiding elbowsan's existence and pretending she was on her own. It's only when Tom's face got leaked that the threads here exploded.

Her family is working middle class, they never went to private schools or are part of society. Modular homes built on low cost land in Oakville is peanuts compared to houses in the actual city. Nothing wrong with it but they aren't as well off as you might think.

No. 266130

>>265927
>She most likely would've been fine without Tom

I think she would've been too, but I think Tom was the worst thing to happen to her for the sake of her independence or having a normal 20 something year old life. Pre-japan/tom she had a pretty normal life - studying nutrition at hk uni, normal apartment, etc. I don't think there were other youtubers like her in HK so i think she would've done well on youtube and modeling.
BUT then post-tom, she got so spoiled she didn't even know how to use japanese public transportation lmao. And then later completely lacking the self-awareness that she's the top 1% and her whole 'girl boss' sounds retarded because she easily gives up and moves onto new business/career endeavors funded by tom. Never experiencing loss or hardship like a normie. She hasn't touched grass since she was like 22 or 23 kek

No. 266134

>>266130
What do you mean she didn’t know how to use public transportation ? Like she didn’t know how to read a subway map??

No. 266137

>>265934
Elyse is old news and she used to be so condescending in her blog. Not even her close (!) friends from ANTP was spared and she spoke out later about it
Elyse had fans because she found some success in east Asia but if you read her blog she has an attitude and makes snarky remarks about other models in auditions

No. 266138

>>265934
Elyse made a snarky blogpost about Adrianne and also ratted her out to her agency. Everything is on Reddit if you want to google search

No. 266143

>>266137
she was an actual north american model chronicling her career in HK. I don't give a crap about Adrienne, who is kind of a hot mess. All you have is A's word against E's, so what.

She is old news but left HK just as Taylor arrived in 2010. This is what I am talking about. Her experience in HK and Japan is not irrelevant to what a normal model would have gone through in 2010. She was very candid about the standards and procedures, what model apartments were like, how her agencies were, the fact that she was living with 13 and 14yo models and called old/fat.

No. 266144

>>266137
samefag but why do you think I care if she was snarky? It's clear she was very honest in her blog and yeah, she had a successful career in east Asia. That's all I care about. Model apartments sound nightmarish and there are so. many. accounts in her blog about how young models were sexually assaulted, spied on, taken advantage of. By agency people too.

No. 266150

>>266143
Tbh modeling market in Japan is still pretty much the same as underage Russian girls still travel here for modeling work, live in questionable conditions in tiny apartments and model for bridal or lingerie which should be reserved for at least women in their twenties.

But that’s not an industry secret. Everyone knows that. A quick walk in Omotesando and you’ll see a bunch of underage girls being transported in company car to their next audition.


That doesn’t justify Elyse’s condescending attitude against other models who auditioned with her tho. She made a mockery of many Russian girls and even an American girl if you prioritize “actual North American models” in East Asia…

No. 266151

>>266144
Because you’re comparing Taylor to her. At least Taylor never made public snarky comments about her coworkers

No. 266159

>>266151
no, I am using it as a guide for the industry Taylor was walking into. Elyse did editorial, high-fashion (runway), and commercial shoots. I don't think you understand the spirit in which her book and blog were written: all names were hidden and she wrote about the realities of what she experienced: agency ppl walking into apartments at all hours, puke-covered toilets, sketchy neighbors, communal van rides all day to castings. Taylor never described anything like the grueling schedule Elyse experienced. So it is relevant. Sorry I bumped your favorite cow by literally just citing a candid English description of the realities of modeling in east Asia. I don't prioritize NA models, it's just a no-holds-barred account of experiences IN ENGLISH, which is the primary language on this board.

No. 266161

a mockery of whom? aside from Adrienne?

she made fun of herself just as much as she did anyone else.

No. 266163

>>266130
>a normal 20 something year old life

She was a grown adult in her mid-20s when she met Tom, plus she was openly seeking out higher net worth men to marry, not date, before her short modelling stint in HK fully dried up. Regardless of how Tom looks, both of them are a match in terms of intelligence and this is the life she wanted.

No. 266184

>>266163
You do realize that just because she stopped modeling doesn't mean that completely raised any opportunity she might have had in the future if she hadn't gone with Tom, right?

No. 266194

Heh, this argument about Taylor and Tom is odd to me. We’ve hardly known of Taylor prior to toms assistance. PULL was the first to notice her back in 2013 listing her in the “kotaclone” thread before giving her a thread of her own. 2014 she suddenly started travelling first class for concerts and luxurious shopping trips in London and Paris. Despite Taylor giving us her own timeline of when they were dating, I think they were seeing each other casually prior to 2014. You just don’t fork out thousands on some girl you hardly know unless it was some sort of sugaring relationship.

A lot of people here and on old PULL have admitted that they only liked Taylor’s content due to her luxurious lifestyle, and no doubt a large sum of her fan base is the same. Her OG content of before Tom hardly got any traction and was boring ( health related or beauty related). She was terrible at marketing herself, and only after meeting “tripod-San” ( Tom ) did she start to grow more. Long story short, Tom has been helping her for at least as long as we have known her for, and she likely was like Kota in the early days where she had financial help from her parents. At least 50% of her growth and fame can be credited to Tom. Without Tom she would have been no different then other kawaii girls fame/follower wise and still modelling the odd catalog gigs. After agency deductions and bills she would never have enough to go on shopping sprees and luxurious trips like she can now.

No. 266196

>>266194
Personally knew about her before PULL because of her social medias. The fact that multiple non's keep denying that she had an existence is really stupid. She had a good amount of following as well.

No. 266212

Taylor was living in a shared apartment with other models prior to moving in with Tom. She was not living on her own, supporting herself. Most of what's been described here is after she'd already already moved in with Tom. She was already with Tom when she moved to Japan. All her viral and popular vlogs were produced with Tom's wallet and help, and sometimes with a professional team he hired. She doesn't have an education or street smarts, can't run a successful brand even with Tom's help, and without consistent modeling work or viral videos, what do people think she could've done successfully to be able to earn enough to live comfortably?

No. 266227

>>266196
ok. which ones?

>>266194
they officially started in 2013 but I am sure there was something earlier, probably overlapping with Taylor's other bf. I can't prove it though. She said in this video that they first made contact in 2012: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cs411H7fe/ (can't find a good spot to screenshot, but it starts around 0:45). She said she had already fallen in love with his personality before they even met in person lmao. Sure.

No. 266229

>>266227
Anon she had a youtube and instagram. Stop being retarded.

No. 266245

>>266196
Ain't denying her having an existence, but she would not have a large following without assistance. No 500k IG following nor over 1mil youtube. She probably would have never moved to Japan either since that was with Tom's money. In Japan, she met Sharla and the other Jvloggers and used them to grow her following even more. She really wasn't that big or known in 2012-2013. She wasn't even a popular "living doll" outside of 1-2 article mentions from China… Doesn't even pop up much in any "human doll, human barbie, living doll" searches. All you see is Valaria Lukyanova, Kotakoti, Anastasia, Venus, Angelica Kenova, Justin Jedlica and PixieFox. ( But if you click a Kota pic, she has one or two pics that popup in the pic-related section ). Again, she'd likely have a similar following base too that of Kota's (100k ) and a slowly dying modelling career, as the living doll trend died in 2015 and she was past her prime (25). She'd have a humble modelling career as a catalog model and a slow growth to her followers. Girl has the personality and creativity of a wet paper towel.

No. 266250

>>266245
Why? Why do you think that? Literally, why do you think she would've been unpopular as the only dolly blogger in HK at the time? You literally go from 0 to 60 without any explanation as to why she probably would have become irrelevant. She had a following. The fact that she had it early before vlogging really really took off, it's a great indication she would have still remained popular just like everyone who was vlogging early.

No. 266252

>>266229
pull found her before she had an IG. Her YT was pretty bare.

No. 266253

>>266250
lol did you watch any of those early kota copycat vids? She has 0 personality and just eyefucks the camera. I'm talking about the early vids - ad for laser hair removal, skinny princess cupcakes, big eye makeup, messy sailor moon hair one… many were BE vids anyway.

No. 266258

>>266250
Did you miss the part where I said she has zero personality or creativity? She wasn't popular in any of the trends she clung to, anon. Her living doll stunt didn't blow up until after Tom got her an apartment in Japan, expensive lolita fashion, modelling connections, and Japanese tutors and became her living tripod. She even got god-awful facial fillers at that time. Before that ( before Tom) nobody really knew her name, and she was never even mentioned globally like other dolly girls.

I didn't say she'd be entirely irrelevant or unpopular but would have a slow and very basic following count of around 100k on IG. Youtube would be even more of a flopper if she didn't develop some personality/creativity(she still doesn't have any to this day). Her old YT content was crappy tutorials and a voice-over done in a monotone voice.

No. 266270

>>266250
She didn't have any following prior to Tom, literally none. All this wishful thinking about her imagined success is pointless aggrandizing because she wasn't a vlogger or on youtube until he was in the picture and buying her the cameras and gear to shoot with, kek.

No. 266272

>>257769
I’m not trying to be mean but has she had Levi checked for hydrocephalus? His head is huge

No. 266307

>>266258
So the idea she would've kept gaining popularity is somehow out the window kek sure.

No. 266320

>>266272
Noticed it immediately when the first pic dropped. Unfortunately it’s from pedodad. Warthog genes + her penny wise forehead =gigantic headed child.

No. 266323

>>266307
NTA but it seems you're struggling to realize Taylor isn't anything without Tom's money. It's also his money and company that slowly built her audience and expanded her reach over many years.

Tell us one notable thing about Taylor that isn't related to Tom's money that would make her popular and relevant. Even for a cow she's boring and niche.

No. 266330

>>257769
>>266194
>We’ve hardly known of Taylor prior to toms assistance. PULL was the first to notice her back in 2013 listing her in the “kotaclone” thread before giving her a thread of her own.

I don't think PULL immediately listed her as a kotaclone, because she was noticed and picked up on when she was still normal and making videos about her normal hong kong life. I think she was in online personalities and was well liked when she was normal and milkfree. But when she cringed out and skinwalked kota, she later got her own thread in snowflakes. I don't remember too well, but I think her hong kong videos were doing fairly well at the time as a newb, there weren't any other influencers like her in hong kong as opposed to an already over-saturated white girl youtuber market in japan

No. 266332

>>266272
some babies just have larger heads. If there was reason for concern, he would have been checked for it already.

>>266320
>>her penny wise forehead

seethe more.

No. 266346

>>266330
They were and then she started selling out according to anons when Tom stepped in. He wasn't always in her life in HK. Anons just refuse to acknowledge the possibility of her being fair off on her own because they aren't interested in her

No. 266366

>>266332
The pay must be good, huh? WK abound in this thread lately.

No. 266395

>>266366
Seriously. Admitting to being a PULLtard and wking in the same breath used to be a bannable offense back in the days here.

No. 266397

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Couldn’t help but to notice how much weight Tom has put on. He doesn’t have the excuse of getting pregnant, but man has he let himself go. The hair doesn’t do him any favours either.

No. 266404

>>266397
That's sympathy weight, you hater. /s
For se reason he only gained in sympthay but seems to have no plans to lose it like his wife.

No. 266405

>>266397
OT, but that cardigan does nothing for the outfit. Zero. Not pretty, not stylish, not functional.

No. 266421

>>266404
I still remember when he posted his ripped underwear while cawing about sympathy weight

No. 266429

>>266229
wooo look at her YT in April 2013
I just see Tom-promoted BE content and getting ready for her move to Japan. She and Tom met in 2012.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130422114058/https://www.youtube.com/user/taylorr1488 (mods: can't really effectively screenshot what I'm talking about, since it's like multiple things? But isn't an archive link helpful?)

So nah she didn't have shit before him. All those views come from the videos BE promoted. If she had gotten them organically, people would have clicked on the modeling videos, you know, the ones with 800 views at the bottom.(decade-old milk)

No. 266432

>>266429
This is an imageboard and all this is hypothetical. You guys need to calm down about what could have been and being so pissed off about anons discussing it. This has been such a derail because
>nuh uh she would've never been good on her own
Let anons discuss Taylor and Tom. No1currs about your massive vendetta and shutdown of the topic. We get it, she has Tom's money now. We are talking about what-ifs he she never had.

No. 266433

>>266430
what is the fucking problem with posting an archive link? It shows a lot about what her YT looked like then, dumbass

No. 266435

>>266432
you're the one who wants to stop discussion, I visit this thread once a week or so and come back to your massive whinging

No. 266436

>>266330
No, pull mainly fixated on all kawaiii/anime/ goth or extreme shoop girls. Taylor’s following didn’t start to even exist much until she started the dolly trend stuff. Someone that followed Taylor’s fb page listed her in the kotaclone thread ( I remember because I lurked pull frequently, especially those kind of threads because I was into the trend then) her YouTube back then was pretty dead with views less then 10k per video at the time. PULL found her to be a interesting comparison to kota because she was everything kota dreamed to be. Tall, skinny, pretty and a actual model. I honestly think the original thread for Taylor was low key made with the intention of pissing off Kiki and kota. Wasn’t until she got fillers,shopped heavily, faked a kawaii voice and constantly lied about small petty things that shit turned sour. That was a also when sperg-chan ( Kiki ) made an appearance.

No. 266437

>>266332
Seethe more about her gigantic forehead? Okay I will, it’s funny lmao

No. 266438

>>266397
She has some weird attraction to unattractive men right? I knew a girl like that and it’s because she had severe self esteem issues

No. 266439

>>266438
in that video about her engagement, she said her last two bfs were Tom's age and 5 years older than him. ick

No. 266440

>>266346
No one said she didn't have a life before Tom. Her #1 fan here is claiming she could've lived very comfortably without Tom's help, but there's nothing to suggest that's true. Even her youtube success has been through Tom. She might've had some followers pre-Tom, but not enough views and sponsors to live well or even on her own. The whole point of this discussion was the fact that she's complaining about Tom's birthday cake when it's Tom's birthday and his money, and she's not some victim being exploited like her WK here makes her out to be, and ironically, some of Tom's money has actually come from exploiting minors, which makes the poor Taylor argument even more stupid.

No. 266453

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i was looking for something and found that ONTD article that was basically info collected from the Farms. clicked on one of the links and realized that Tom and Taylor were in a relationship when MenClub drew attention to an article about Taylor's (and other models') upskirt photos. i'm not sure if the article blurred them or not, but i bet a lot of men jumped onto hk forum sites to get the unblurred ones.

If anyone decided to publicize upskirt photos of me, i would immediately leave that person. How she stayed after that, i have no idea. And no it doesn't matter if Tom himself wrote the post or not, Taylor is named in the text of the post…. i know not every woman is the same, but how do you endure that kind of disrespect if the event was so traumatic for you (as she herself stated it was)?

No. 266492

>>266436
This were good YT numbers at the time

No. 266493

>>266435
Uh, not the only anon who's said this, but okay??

No. 266507

>>266439
>>266438
>>266453
Pretty sure she's just a gold digger who wanted to make sure that she'd never have to work a real job, so she looked for easiest route to achieve that. She seems to be one of those girls who cannot even imagine herself having a real job, much like Venus or Yumi.

No. 266527

>>266492
OK, anon, you're absolutely right. Taylor had a stellar carrier before Tom got into the picture, she would have been very successful and lived a life in luxury just like now even if she hasn't married Ew-san. All thanks to her wits and talent and genius youtube/SM content. Happy? Now fuck off.

No. 266532

>>266527
Anon, no one said she had a stellar career. You really need a xanax or something. Anons are just saying she would've been fine and considering her market wasn't big at the time and she was one of the few white vloggers in HK, she most likely would've gotten big there even if she left modeling and just did YouTube. This isn't that big of a deal. Stop being so pissed that anons don't agree with you and freaking out about about what actually happened. YouTube having 10s/100s of views around that time were good numbers. Millions didn't become the norm for most people until years later when streaming really started off and cable began to wane.

No. 266535

>>266532
>anons
stop pretending like you speak for a majority here when you samefag constantly

>take a xanax

calm down, take your meds, get help, touch grass reee

No. 266536

>>266429
with all due respect to this mod, i didn't start that discussion but copped a ban for showing in a saged post the state of her YT. i don't understand why this is even 'old milk' (it's not, which is why i saged it). Kinda feels shitty to contribute facts to a discussion i didn't start and get redtext shamed for doing it. i thought proof was important: contribute proof, get banned.

No. 266562

>>266532
>anons

Where are they? Zero people have agreed with your samefagging on the false narrative you keep pushing with unrelated points and zero proof.

She had no views on her dolly videos until Tom started paying for them to get amplified. It has nothing to do with cable when most her fans and viewers are ESL SEA weebs who don't have it anyway but gj trying to connect unrelated points again.

No. 266565

>>266562
No one had been samefagging. The entire thread isn't just 2 people.
Also proof he paid for promos? Proofhe paid for her plane ticket to China even lol

No. 266588

>>266565
Ask Taylor for the receipts when receiving your next payment lol Or is it Tom who pays you? That would make more sense.

No. 266592

>>266588
>tom paid for everything
>we can't prove he paid for everything

Nice.

No. 266604

>>266565
>>266592
Different anon, I don't know about the promo crap, but I do know it was heavily speculated about the Europe trips. The first-class flight, 5-star hotels, 10k shopping sprees and luxurious cafes or restaurants coupled with concert tickets just seemed out of Taylor's financial reach. She wasn't big on Youtube back in 2013/2014 and a catalog model's pay could not cover such expenses.

I think it's pretty obvious what was covered by who as Taylor always shopped at cheap af places on her own credit card. Fast fashion is cheap and where Taylor frequented, and expensive Chanel or luois Vuitton was either mentioned as a gift and/or Tom was with her buying it. As for current right now Taylor, I think she could afford it on her own… Just not back then. TBH I think Tom covered most heavy expenses and some until Taylor got her footing and was financially well off on her own.

No. 266608

>>266588
This, seriously. It's like the weird nerds and Elon meme but with a niche cow who is a big nothing without her husband's money.

>>266592
Wk-chan what do you get out of derailing the thread?

No. 266640

>>266604
Wait, so anons have only speculated,yet assuming everything is by Tom lol

No. 266646

>>266640
What makes more sense - that a man that owned flat on the mid levels and now has 70 MLN HKD (9 mln USD, not 900k like mentioned before) along with 2 MLN CAD can afford business class tickets from Asia to Europe and Canada, luxury hotels and shopping sprees or that it all can be paid by a catalog model from mid-class family (keep in mind she does have 3 siblings to share family money with) that lives in shared model apartment, and has few thousand views on her mediocre videos? Cmon, you need to be delusional to think she could have had that lifestyle on her own. But if you want to believe she would be this successful on her own then go ahead. If you had any idea on reality of HK KOL market then and now you would know without Tom’s money and promoting her any chance he got she wouldn’t be this popular and thus wouldn’t be able to afford any of those things.

No. 266647

>>266640
Both sides are purely based on speculation. There will never be any proof unless Taylor herself post bank statements and admits to having Tom help her. Ps this goes both ways. Anons can’t prove that she hasn’t either.

No. 266665

>>266646
It's not about what makes sense, it's about what's true. Anons are saying he was important from the moment she moved to HK which I highly doubt. This completely ignores the possibility that she was getting popular there on her own without him. The fact that he apparently owned everything she was ever featured in is such a reach, anons didn't even back up information about >>266079 him apparently also owning Vivi magazine.

I'm all for saying she couldn't have gotten anywhere without him if it weren't for the fact that that's not entirely true. Multiple anons have stated that when she moved to HK, being one of the very few vloggers who were white and modeling there at the time, that she started to become interesting. The same way other vloggers did the same thing in Japan. It being HK doesn't negate that it happened to her too but somewhere else. I think over time, with publicity, Tom took interest in her, but to say that he paid for everything from the get-go seems such a reach and just an overblown vendetta

No. 266670

>>266405
I noticed that cardigan too. Comfy, but looks surprisingly cheap and is a randomly thrown together outfit. I'd wear that kind of cardigan on a lazy day with jeans and t-shirt.
Doesn't really go with the shoes and skirt.

No. 266672

>>266665
He is posting on his IG back in 2019 how they just launched online version of Vivi HK that he already owned in print.
She wasn’t getting popular without him, that’s the thing. She was mentioned here and there but not more than other white models. OK, she was a white vlogger in HK but with not big reach, HK is not popular place to be interested so most of people outside of HK based on probability wouldn’t notice her. Japanese and Korean vloggers for sure, but HK is relatively small and the coverage options are limited.
In fact her popularity didn’t grow until she moved with Tom to Japan - which he sponsored. Prior to him she only made commercials for instant pasta, underwear store, some shots for magazine that no one cared about. He met her during one of those shots which she confirmed, they connected and somehow from that point her promotion on beauty exchange, men’s club etc began and she became more recognized in HK.

No. 266679

>>266665
No one says he's been sponsoring her since she landed in HK, wtf. Anons are saying she was a mediocre model with miserable following and started to take off only after he employed his connections and started giving her more visible platforms and gigs. Whichever anon said 100s of views on Youtube were a big deal back then, sure, but no one made a carrier out of it.
There's no "possibility" she was successful before him because that's obviously not true. She could afford to live comfortably, sure, but having a massive following and living in luxury is a bigass stretch.

No. 266680

>>266646
>>266672
The wks are pretending to have no idea how much things cost and how little money Taylor has ever made on her own in her whole life because she barely worked.

If it was easy to make money doing what Taylor did, every tard would be doing it. Instead the sad reality is more like this >>265774 for the weebs who have delusions about being a white girl in asia.

No. 266691

>>266679
Everytime I pass this thread some anon is trying to reinvent Taylor's history like anons aren't old enough to remember kek.

No. 266692

>>266691
That and saying anyone who points out the actual history must have some vendetta when they simply happened to be around during some of the board's greatest moments like spergchan.

No. 266696

>>266692
her early modeling (2010-2012) was abysmal but I do chalk it up to her agency not teaching her better. So many gaping mouths and vacant eyes. She's improved a bit but now frozen her face so badly she cannot convey emotions

No. 266715

>>266696
Her blank, emotionless face with an open mouth is her trademark thumbnail face now kek

No. 266748

>>266696
The partial open mouth thing is a staple for models. What are you on about? Its prevents your chin from wrinkling unless you want to leave everyone up to digital editing.

No. 266749

>>266680
Anons admitted HK is always cheaper, for luxury too.

No. 266753

>>266748
Sure but you still have to do it in a way that doesn't look bad or awkward which she did not know how to do

No. 266756

>>266753
Gaping fish mouth and overly opened or squint eyes seem like the go-to for everyone. Can't tell a difference lol

No. 266761

>>266748
anon, when you defend taylor from even the tiniest subjective opinion, you seem like a shill. why does everyone have to like everything about taylor for you to be content? that's never going to happen. hide the thread and go like her IG posts.

No. 266778

>>265934
Zipper was via her agency Satoru which had been her agency since her first time in Japan which was incidentally also her first time working abroad.

No. 266800

>>266679
>She could afford to live comfortably
Even that's doubtful tbh.

No. 266840

>>266749
Can you hear yourself? Cheaper LUXURY. Even if it's cheaper, it's still nowhere near affordable, I'm afraid. And given the property prices and crisis in HK she could never afford her current apartment. Hell, with her "successful" carrier all she could afford was a shared flat.

No. 266845

>>266840
Did you live in HK in 2015, anon? Do you have any idea the cost comparatively?

No. 266850

>>266845
ntayrt but there are plenty of sites giving information about historic rental prices, don't be daft. So you've lived in HK, then?

No. 266853

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No. 266855

>>266853
>2022

Anon, are you not following this convo?

No. 266856

>>266855
I see, so HK was a cheap and affordable city prior to 2019, when it was the most expensive in the world?

No. 266859

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>>266855
here's the Mercer index for 2010. HK is #8 most expensive in the world. https://www.cnbc.com/2010/06/29/The-Worlds-Most-Expensive-Places-To-Live-2010.html

Stop lying to defend your waifu

No. 266871

dang she hit the wall hard. not meaning this as an insult. just objectively. speculatively, her career is over.

No. 266885

>>266853
Just ignore that one wk who pretends they can't do a quick google and pretends "anons" agree with them. They don't realize this isn't a fansite.

Even Taylor talked how she was literally living in shared apartment squalor until Tom came into the picture. It's just that she hid the truth about Tom being her partner for so long in hopes of looking successful.

No. 266947

Anons don't even like hypotheticals discussed, damn

No. 267019

What’s the Chinese tradition regarding housewife? Is she gonna be stuck in her home with a child and never get a real job? She probably would regardless, but I’m wondering what her excuse will be.

No. 267059

>>267019
Well, according to her, she's already a working mother, so…

No. 267148

File: 1669019932245.jpg (172.06 KB, 543x973, Untitled-1.jpg)

No milk, but is this a mother thing?
Because I think watching toddlers eat with all the drool and food smeared over their hands and faces is pretty much the most unsightly thing about toddlers after dirty diapers.

No. 267150

>>267148
Probably a mom thing but absolutely nothing that has to be broadcast on your social media. People have no boundaries these days.

No. 267156

>>267148
Maybe she's happy because her baby can eat food and chew it. As a new mom it's important since it's a proof he is healthy. At this stage a lot of babies start with food allergies, digestive problems.. Or simply start becoming picky eaters.
No one likes a baby drooling all over the place.(learn2sage)

No. 267157

>>267148
Its a baby.

No. 267165

>>267150
Yeah, it's totally a mom thing. I'm so thankful that none of my mom friends post it online. Taylor made me appreciate them more.

No. 267186

>>267157
You don't say? I thought it was an armchair.

No. 267190

>>267156
it was absolutely disgusting seeing and hearing that baby gnaw on her story. gross af

No. 267194

>>267148
This was absolutely stomach turning. I should not have watched.

No. 267200

>>267148
He’s a cute baby but yeah it’s gross. I’m a mom and I never once zoomed my camera in on my sons mouth while he’s eating. Shits weird

No. 267235

video of the act here https://emalm.com/?v=K7wAX

don't come at me, it's late and i don't have time to figure out video embedding rn. uploaded it to an anon vid site

No. 267239

>>266079
I miss the days before tranny drag makeup influenced all makeup styles, alt and mainstream

No. 267240

>>267194
Same. Omg, I don't know what I was expecting, but it was worse than that. Put trigger warning on gross things like that or smt. Jesus. Some thing should never be posted online. This is one of those things. Ew.

No. 267261

>>267235
This does not look like a YouTube link. Anon's, even without the embed, do not click. Youtube links look like this: https:/ /youtu.be/CODEFORVIDEO

Wait for anon to learn2embed

No. 267272

>>267261
I clicked it. It's the uploaded IG story. Why would it be a youtube link…

No. 267275

>>267272
Oh well

No. 267291

>>261110
statistically, you are incorrect, sir. kindly go back to your middle school homeroom.

No. 267293

>>261397
I feel bad for you because you've clearly never come close to being in a relationship.

No. 267299

>>266397
How can you tell his weight gain based on those pictures? His face just got uglier and fatter. He somehow aged a bunch in 2 years. His body looks the same.

Also, Taylor's face is the exact same in all three. that is some top model skill!

No. 267305

>>267293
>>267291
Why are you writing witty retorts to month old posts kek?

No. 267319

>>267293
Oh don’t feel bad for me. My husband is able to watch our own kid without being spoonfed everything

No. 267325

>>267299
Lmao, can you be more obvious, WK-chan?

No. 267663

>>267325
Nta, but they are right.

No. 267840

>>267663
>Also, Taylor's face is the exact same in all three. that is some top model skill!

This is bait, anon. Do I need to explain it to you?

No. 267847

>>267840
They aren't wrong that good models are able to keep the same poses/faces exactly. Bait or not, she does know how to do that lol

No. 267857

Lmao, what's this random convo about Taylor's modeling "talent"?
Are we rewriting history again since proving that she would've been a billionaire on her own didn't work? Lol

No. 267859

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lol okay taylor, makes sense. how could a child possibly learn their native language without nanny? as long as they’re married these two are never leaving HK

No. 267864

>>267847
y'know what makes that easy? Freezing your fucking face and injecting it with shit!

No. 267909

>>267859
Well, if Tom talks to him in Cantonese at home all the time and he gets tutored, he can learn that in Canada, too.

No. 267910

File: 1669329034712.jpg (349.99 KB, 1080x1884, IMG_20221124_210123.jpg)

Oh, look, her highness finally bought bigger jeans. Took her long enough lmao. I love how she always says she does not care about her body, but every time she mentions it, she stresses that she's "appreciative" and "chill" with it NOW. I mean, I thought you were over it since day one…

No. 267916

>>267859
Why does she want to move back to Canada? I thought she loved HK? It’s not like she’s close to her family

No. 267938

>>267916
If i come from a developed democratic country i will not want to stay in a country where i can’t speak the language, expensive and being taken by ccp and make my child grow there unless coming from
Some shithole then you have no better option.

No. 267944

>>267916

Taylor’s in for a rude awakening whenever she does move back though. Taylor’s entire worldview of “Canada” is downtown Toronto and the hick town her family lives in a couple hours down the highway (more like 3-4 hours now with the urban exodus to Niagara.) Ontario’s kind of an overpriced shithole to live in in a post-covid world that she’s totally oblivious to.

Everything besides the money that makes Taylor think she’s special means jack in Canada anyway. There’s no “career” in it. No one cares about the content of some white 35 year old has-been catalog model from Grimsby with a high school education. Her “international couple” schtick is tacky and borderline racist and wouldn’t last a minute over here without people calling her out on it.

No. 267968

>>257769
>>267916
While I don't think she necessarily ISN'T close to her family, I do think she romanticizes the idea of family a ton. She's always waxing lyrical about cooking her grandma's recipes, crying on FaceTime with her family, and her vlogs back home made it look like she gets on well with her siblings. I don't think she loves the reality of her family - because otherwise why would she live so far from them and visit so seldom, even pre-COVID.

I think she just really loves the idea of a big family, the aesthetic of having everyone around, cooking and wearing matching clothes. She's someone who is far more interested in how things look in pictures than how they really are in reality.

No. 267973

File: 1669375564665.png (1.06 MB, 1080x1292, Screenshot_20221124-192244.png)

No shit, Sherlock, everything changes. But basically this thumbnail shows everything is still the same.

Look at my plasticky face and tell me I am so beautiful, not a day over 21, so wholesome, so perfect! Is this about my son? You'd never know from the thumbnail!! It's all about me.

Rosie was bought from a Chinese puppy farm selling horribly disfigured teacup poodles. Because we have money to burn, let's get her an unnecessary DNA test.

No. 267974

>>267973
double post but
lmao the random arrow pointing at Tom. Did Taylor find out he's not Rosie's father? wtf

No. 267981

>>267186
lmao they're saying it because the OP said Toddlers

No. 267994

>>267981
the distinction doesn't matter, smartass.

No. 267997

New vlog. A snooze fest.
Did she really need to do the stupid DNA test to realise that Rosie needs a check-up at the vet? Isn't that a thing you do regularly anyway?
Also, the fuck is she pretending that Rosie could be a mix? You got her from a popular breeder, of course she's a purebred mutant.

No. 268033

>>267973
Anyone have a summary? She keeps acting like her marriage is perfect so I’m surprised she uploaded something like this. Idc about Rosie’s part

No. 268050

>>268033
just like any other time it's just clickbait and she doesn't talk about their relationship

No. 268057

>>268033
they were sleep-deprived. that's it.

No. 268058

>>268033
>>268057
Yep, pretty much this. They realized that once they have a baby they have to talk about something more than which hotel they'd do a staycation at. And it's hard work, people. The baby is crying and we have responsibilities. wow.
\s

No. 268063

>>267325
Not sure how pointing out that his body didn't change much while his face did is WKing. But there, you got to use your cool lingo once more. Go, you!

No. 268064

>>267840
Yes, please explain how that's bait. Bait for what?

No. 268065

>>267857
It's not a convo about her talent. It freaks me out that she looks identical in all three pictures.
I made a snarky comment. Some anons didn't get the snark. And the world keeps on turning.

No. 268071

>>268064
when you can't move your face because you've fucked it up with filler and Botox, that sure ain't talent, you insufferable WK

No. 268073

>>268033
Nothing, really. They had a fight because the baby didn't let them sleep and they were tired. She didn't even specify what they quarreled about, only said she he told her to stop seeing him as an opponent because they're in fact in the same team.

No. 268103

>>267910
why the fuck would she put a 1-week postpartum pic in the background of this ask? It has nothing to do with the question or her current state

No. 268105

>>267910
sorry to samefag but that nostril gaping above is really unflattering, damn.

No. 268172

>>268103
To show the "horrendous" condition her body was in and to fish for compliments on her "hard work" getting to her current body.
But I agree, that had nothing to do with the question, OP talked about 1 year postpartum, not 1 week.

No. 268284

>>268172
I dunno what it's like to have a baby, but I'd assume the mom would be too exhausted and busy to be taking those kind of photos (and you know she didn't just pose for a quick one) just a week after giving birth.

No. 268317

>>268284
You forgot she had a "helper" - do everything for me while I rest - for the first months and has one now so she can "work", which is - taking photos from every angle. I wonder if she'll be like this for the next pregnancies, too.

No. 268625

>>268073
Don’t they have a nanny? Idk how you can be too tired when you’re hiring someone to watch your kid while you can nap or do whatever else

No. 268627

>>268625
not just a nanny in the childcare sense, a domestic helper who does all the cleaning and cooking too (so taylor can cook separate chicken meals for instagram ofc)

No. 268652

>>268627
We don't know that for sure. Also we don't know if it's even live in which is what people have been tinfoiling. For all anyone knows she only shows up 4 times a week.

No. 268690

>>268652
watch her latest video? The nanny starts work in the morning and takes care of Rosie and the household too. We don't know if she sleeps overnight but does that really matter? Stop defending your beloved cows from every perceived slight. Tom definitely doesn't need to be at the office all the time but can't be arsed to help out either - it's all part of their plan to have designer babies and let other people do the bts workbof caring for them.

No. 268705

>>268652
she said herself in her stories awhile back that the helper cooks, cleans, takes care of the dog and nannies the baby

No. 268706

>>268652
Having a nanny is actually still completely normalised in Hong Kong unlike the West, particularly for the very well off. There's nothing out of the ordinary about someone who lives the lifestyle Taylor does having a full-time nanny.

No. 268734

>>268706
Didn't say it was. I said assuming she's there 24/7 or that she's a live-in is dumb.

No. 268735

>>268734
I think it's why we've never gotten a real tour of the home, not even after all this time.

No. 268745

>>268652
>>268734
Always a WK in this thread I swear to God

No. 268778

>>268745
Who? Sorry other anons want proof before pretending there's someone living there 24/7. I've had nannies and they'd only actually come like 3 times a week. Nannies aren't a big deal, especially in a country where it's expected, even in the poor communities [God forbid you hear about that since you seem to think this is only a rich person thing]. No different if a parent or friend was helping out. Calling people whiteknights because you don't agree with them sure shows the thought processes you have.

No. 268806

>>268778
No one said the domestic helper is there 24/7, stop playing dumb. But she is indeed there most of the day - from morning till evening. The only time Taylor has to handle the kid without help is the night (when he's sleeping) and early mornings, that's it.
P. S. If you don't wanna be taken as a WK, stop justifying her every move and nitpicking and exaggerating comments or taking them completely out of context to prove a point.

No. 268809

>>268778
>No different if a parent or friend was helping out.
Um, parents and friends don't get paid, it's not their job to be there when my (nonexistent) baby wakes up or to clean my (existent) dog's poop. That's an insane comparison to make. Stop trying to make a fight about everything. If it's normal even in "poor communities," then why did Carol have to do her whole confinement herself? Was she poorer than poor?

>>268806
exactly

No. 268869

>>268735
Bingo!

No. 268913

>>268809
They should get paid. Free labor just because your fam and friends is shitty. You're taking up their time. Do you really expect not pay people who you know to babysit? Take advantage of their help? Holy shit, thats worse. Also Carol, that was her job. She's employed for that. She did it with other mothers too, but okay. She was a slave, apparently.

No. 268938

>>268778
I have rich friends from HK and they definitely have domestic help there during the working hours. It's a full-time job for a lot of people there's nothing strange about that situation so I don't know why you're screeching for proof when it's practically a given in HK for the well off. And no one is saying it's exclusively a rich person thing, it's culturally normalised like it was in the West decades ago, but naturally it would be strange for their domestic help to not be there a lot of the time considering how well off they are.

No. 268943

>>268913
hey, learn reading comprehension, you have misconstrued not just what I wrote but the tone of it, because you want to sperge again.

I asked why Carol had to cook and take care of HERSELF during confinement, with no help from anyone (bc she could not afford it). This was stated in a video you probably didn't even watch. Watching the content is too much to ask of such a low-grade derailer, I guess. So is the English-speaking Carol just that poor? I mean, wow if so, she must have really turned her whole economic life around, learned English, took all those classes, and gotten all those certifications, all since she gave birth, and she doesn't look very old.

No. 268990

>>268943
Carol is an adult. No one called Carol poor. They said even poor people have helpers for babies the same way Taylor did for her pregnancy and that it's not just some rich person gimmick because they are lazy. This forced pity on to Carol is stupid, it's been months. Anons really, really hate the idea that nannies and anyone helping within a household that isn't direct family. It's so weird.

>>268938
I'm not screeching about it. I'm asking if anons can prove, according to them, that they are there 24/7. I'm saying they might not even be there 24/7 and even agreed it's not a big deal due to it being so normalized in China and HK and multiple other countries. You have celebrities in China using assistants just to hold a phone or change someone's shoes. Taylor at least seems to pay them and she treats them nice, also from the looks of it, which is more than I can say for a lot of workers. However, anons will say she's overworked and probably not taken care of for some reason, but nothing to back it up.

No. 268996

>>268990
Give us the pay already

No. 269002

>>268996
Sorry I don't think going straight to extremes makes much sense. We see bits of her life and we don't even know if things she posts is daily or pre-filmed/shot. The only person I recall seeing in her stories 'daily' at one point was Carol after birth. I personally don't care if she has housekeepers 24/7 or a nanny 24/7. Like other anons have said >>268938 it's not out of the ordinary, especially if you can afford it, but I haven't see anyone around like Carol was. If someone was, anons would've been posting it too, not just complaining every few weeks with the sight of someone, not even knowing if it's the same person from before. No one is saying she doesn't have any help. Just don't think it makes sense to say it's just like Carol again when it clearly isn't, but anons are passing it off like it's true. Can we start logging these appearances then? Lets keep track of this 24/7 domestic helper so we can make sure Taylor does nothing in her life.

No. 269017

To the WK-chan doing her best to beat a dead horse, we never see her assistant(s) either, but it's obvious they are there. Not 24/7, might I add just in case.

Let's stop responding to it. It's just here to stir shit. Let's wait for a better topic of discussion.

No. 269019

>>268990
Anons have stated multiple times, myself included that we're not implying it's 24/7 but it's conventional for it to be a normal working day. I also have nothing against help, and understand it's just cultural norm in HK and yet you continue to write paragraphs predicated on shit I didn't even say kek. Touch some grass it'll do you good.

No. 269021

>>268990
you said poor people have nannies and helpers and fuck knows what else in Asia. So normal! even for poors! Except Carol, an educated woman, said herself on video that she could not afford it and did her confinement alone without any help. So stop shilling this idea that every Asian woman, rich and poor, has all this access to help when they don't. And that's where I'm leaving it. You deliberately try to cause fights by misrepresenting what people write and I hope anons continue to report your stupid posts.

No. 269034

>>269021
>you said poor people have nannies and helpers and fuck knows what else in Asia. So normal! even for poors

I've never heard of people having nannies and helpers being commonplace in asia or anywhere except for the upper middle class.
I think Taylor needs a nanny since she is quite immature and has her influencer business to run and a lifestyle to maintain (e.g. nobody wants to watch struggle content), but it isn't commonplace to have nannies, cooks, cleaners, assistants etc despite what wk-chan wants us to believe.

No. 269037

NTA, but there are approximately 400 000 (based on 2019 numbers) foreign domestic helpers in HK which makes up 5% of HK population. Their salary is now around 5K HKD on average, to hire one she needs to be provided with accommodation and food - outside of her salary. They work 6 days a week with one day off and public holidays off.

I don’t think that people meant poor as in living in cage homes poor. But if a woman earns 15k HKD they would still hire a FDH to take care of the kids after school, cook, clean etc. because then enables her to go to work and have that extra 10K for the family budget.
You need to keep in mind FDH is not a pui yuet - pui yuet doesn’t do cleaning etc, she purely takes care of the mother and child with TCM, looking after the baby at night so mother can rest better etc.
Salary of a helper is 5K HKD on average, pui yuet is easily over 25K, depending on experience and time pui yuet has to spent at your home it can easily go over 40K.

By the fact that there’s many more FDH than just regular nannies (400k vs 10k) the probability of her having a living-in nanny (FDH must be provided with accommodation to be hired) is much greater, but no one can really confirm unless she admits it. Just like she admitted with pui yuet after our speculations here.

Having a helper in HK is not just a rich people thing, with 5 days working week being a job benefit (I kid you not, next to like gym membership you will see “5 days working week” in job listings), irregular hours often overlapping with kids school hours etc. many people who can’t count on grandparents will decide to hire FDH because at the end of the day they will still be bringing more money home. Many apartments often come with a small room for the helper already (not the newer apartments tho, they don’t even have a proper kitchen now).
It’s just very common and part of a local living style that I’m not judging Taylor for having help.

No. 269040

File: 1669769892024.png (887.1 KB, 863x483, Screenshot_20221130-015254.png)

>Since 2003, all foreign domestic helpers are required by law to be live-in.
from here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_domestic_helpers_in_Hong_Kong#:~:text=Comprising%20five%20percent%20of%20Hong,domestic%20helpers%20in%20the%20territory.

She says she employs a "helper." Ergo, the helper is living in the residence.

>>269037
Why be disingenuous and write all these paragraphs to say that Taylor has to admit her nanny is a live-in helper? You know she is, that's required by law. 5k HKD is the appx minimum salary required by law, not an average.

If you want to know the truth about HK "helpers" and how they are generally treated like shit by everyone, read the wikipedia article and its sources.

No. 269046

>>269040
Jfc, anon. They aren't always required to love with you, especially if you have someone who is a resident and not just a foreign hire working for pennies. Just get over the help thing already. This isn't milky when it's common where she lives.

No. 269056

>>269046
>love with you
god i hope not, imagine being by law required to have sex with Tom or TayTay

No. 269058

>>269056
Don't infight over stupid grammar shit, anon.

No. 269060

>>269058
it was a joke, sensitive whiteknight

No. 269067

>>269040
“The average salary of foreign domestic workers in Hong Kong has reached HK$5,144, an increase of 2.6 percent from a year ago”. Minimum is below that.

I don’t know why you’re barking at me, I’m one of those thinking she has a living in domestic helper, but that one WK keeps saying there’s no evidence and thus I said until Taylor admits it I can’t provide them with the evidence aside of probability of that happening taking into consideration HK’s reality.

I don’t need to read about FDH in HK, I live in HK, I know the reality of it. I saw helpers tucked into kitchen at children’s birthday party. Or a “room” that was just a kitchen storage with bed. And her employer said “There’s even a window and a fan, and she has her own bathroom”. Which is a guest bathroom. Not everyone is like this, I also know families who pay for their helper’s airplane tickets and pay them full months salary when they are off. But especially local employers tend to abuse their power towards FDH.(derailing)

No. 269072

>>269067
If you are so used to domestic helpers, then why should you care? It's clear they don't beat or take advantage of them. Anons just don't think they are there 24/7 without more proof. Just asserting it when we don't know is dumb.

No. 269101

Sorry to interrupt the confinement nanny circle jerk, but can anyone tell me if Taylor has normal or crazy parents. I'm fairly new to her. I only know her since the tom years. Just curious about her background. She seems like a good mom.(spoonfeeding request)

No. 269282

>>269101
I don't know if they're still up but if you go a few years back on her channel there are several videos with her family in them. Just a normal family imo.

No. 269287

>>269101
There's no reason to discuss and delve into specifics about her family. They aren't milk.

No. 269305

>>267997
What even is Rosie?

No. 269306

>>269072
They have been bitchin about it for over a month

No. 269308

>>269305
A mutant poodle. The test confirmed.

No. 269312

>>269306
It's not milky when it's common where she is. It's such a boring take, especially when they aren't even being abusive either. Anons think Taylor having a nanny and posting online at the same time means she's a bad mom and that's what they call 'milk'. Jesus.

No. 269318

>>269312
how the fuck do you know if someone is abusing their help? God, go outside. You are the one beating the dead horse here by asserting it's so totes normal and Chinese while Taylor literally larps as new working mother - meaning, she films YT reels with an assistant while someone cleans, cooks, watches her ivf baby, watches her dog, and does whatever else she asks. Nanny news wasn't unsaged or called milky, you just can't tolerate anything that isn't lavish praise of your princess.

No. 269319

>>269312
and LITERALLY NO ONE said she's a bad mom, you are trying to start fights here. Take your meds.

No. 269322

>>269306
Anons saying Taylor is an absent mom is basically saying the same thing. "She doesn't care for the kid, the nanny does, Taylor just uses the kid for photos" is literally what anons have been trying to peddle.

>>269318
It is normal over there. Get over it. your racism regarding it because it's a different society is showing.

No. 269326

>>269322
having an issue with glorified slavery of foreign women isn't racism, anon. And yeah, I have an issue with rich exploiting poor women, don't you?

no one said she is a bad mom. Stop trying to infight. Her IG is open for your fawning bootlicking.

No. 269327

>>269067
Sorry I misunderstood you and that you inexplicably got a derailing ban, nonna. I reread your post and I'm at fault for reacting how I did. Shit's weird here

No. 269376

>>269326
Yes. Go to the extreme in order to shut down discussion.

No. 269382

>>269376
>it is normal over there. Get over it.
>racism!!!

sorry, you think others are shutting down "discussion"? discussion of what?

No. 269418

>>269326
Anon give it a break, you’ve been tryin to have this discussion with anyone for weeks. Taylor is not the reason for modern day slavery. She’s annoying, definitely. She’s not the cracker you’re trying to make her out to be.

No. 269419

>>269312
Anon won’t get this through their head. Clearly lives in the states and doesn’t understand not everywhere is the USA. She can’t grasp the concept.

No. 269421

>>269319
>>269326
Pretty sure you’re the same anon, blaming people on tryin to start infighting when you clearly so desperately wanna infight. People pointing out that your off your rocker isn’t kissing Taylor’s ass or whiteknighting.

No. 269488

>>269326
Your nitpicking about this is over the top at this point. You sound unhinged and stupid as hell to try and make this milky when it isn't.

No. 269516

>>269421
more than one anon posted about this issue, but I at least am done taking your fucked up bait.

>>269419
I live in Europe, not that it matters, and you are the one bringing race into it.

No. 269527

a mother has childcare help. reeeee

No. 269538

>>269527
I don't think anons are necessarily reeing because she has help (some spergs certainly do but whatever), it's more due to the fact that she tries to hide it until backed into a corner or a slip-up happens. All for glorious insta-super-mom credit. But that's just how social media works in the end.

No. 269545

>>269527
Please kindly fuck off.

No. 269590

>>269538
They aren't the forefront of her channel. Does she need to video any drivers she has too because they are secret too because no way she walks all the time. You guys act like she's hiding when it's more like its not important.

No. 269638

Before it went off on the nanny tangent, discussion was originally about how Taylor was fishing for compliments when she uploaded that photo of her body 1-week postpartum (when someone asked how she was feeling because they were still struggling 1 year after giving birth) and how it's surprising that she was already posing for those photos when you'd think she would've been too be preoccupied and tired for that at the time. Having a nanny and helper obviously makes it a lot easier for a new mom to do something like that and the whole humblebrag response to a fan who probably isn't as privileged as her was incredibly tone-deaf.

No. 269644

>>269516
Bait? Race? What?

No. 269652

>>269638
Nta but thank you for bringing some reason and sanity to this trainwreck of a thread.

No. 269823

three days into December and not a word from Taylor anywhere when half her personality is made up with her obsession with christmas. I can only imagine the meltdowns and fighting she’s having with Tom off-camera right now over her Perfect Christmas Vision not ready to go on day one

No. 269831

>>269823
The fuck are you even talking about? You have some really weird dysfunctional family fantasy about Taylor and it's really gross.

No. 269864

>>269831
she is usually fucking insane about Christmas, it's a fair q to ask where the content is. But a bit weird to assume she's fighting with Tom about it.

No. 269866

>>269823
Her vlogmas content was the best imo, and her near-daily japan videos from many years ago. She thrives when making content daily versus monthly blogging, but she's one of the many influencers who puts it in Stories instead.

No. 269912

>>269864
The tinfoil is dumb.

No. 270012

>>269912
anon acknowledged that

No. 270017

File: 1670164962919.jpg (562.57 KB, 1080x1895, Screenshot_20221204_153830.jpg)

The reason Taylor's not in her usual insane Christmas spirit is because she's currently in Canada. She flew there asap after hearing of her Nana's declining health to say her goodbyes. She posted a few stories explaining the situation but I'm too dumb to save and upload them. Maybe someone else could do that.

No. 270029

>>270017
Nah, no need. She just complained about a cancelled flight and a long layover.

No. 270030

>>270017
Well, this explains it. Not to sound mean-spirited, but I guess another sobbing session is coming. I hope she decides against documenting and uploading it. I think everyone will understand if she disappears from SM for a while, instead of broadcasting intimate, family moments.

No. 270035

>>270030
yes, agreed. I have been dreading this bc we barely knew anything about her grandfather but that was like a giant cryfest for months. She is so much closer to her Nana. For her own sake, I hope she finally gets therapy instead of just talking about one session she had and buying self-help books.

I'm not at all being mean here, my mother died last year in her late 50s and it destroyed me. I still cry all the time but I can't imagine broadcasting something like that to people who do not know me or my family for views. And I started seeing a great therapist eventually, that helped a lot as my grief was making it hard to work or see people

No. 270055

>>270029
Stop trying to turn this into something selfish. Get real help.

No. 270058

>>270055
No one's making it selfish. What? I was just saying that there's no need to share the rest of the stories because there's no milk or interesting/useful info.

No. 270060

>>270055
reported for infighting, anon's comment was completely benign, but that's not good enough for this caping weirdo

No. 270103

>>270035
This is a good take, and sorry anon.

No. 270114

>>270017
wow, her grandma is dying and she's dolled up as usual and smiling on camera talking about it. she's way too into herself.

No. 270135

>>270114
bait. that's not the vibe she's giving at all, and I'm not a Taylor stan in the slightest

No. 270161

>>270114
Just say you hate her already and you don't come here for actual milk. Fuck your bait.

No. 270198

>>270135
Did you not see her Instagram reel? “Hey guys so I flew over here because my grandma is dying :DD”

No. 270223

>>270198
you successfully got the WK to ree about hate, congrats. stfu, people don't always look crying and sad when talking about a sad thing. She is wearing normal makeup, and iirc she even did a full face of makeup for her birth, so why would she be there without makeup? (also nana wouldn't recognize her without it probably.)

She looks grateful to have gotten there in time. Just leave it, there's nothing right now, and I think she's ridiculous 95% of the time.

No. 270224

>>270103
ty, I'm trying to heal from it. Losing a parent is different from losing a grandparent who lived a long life.

No. 270269

>>270223
don’t care. regardless of all the assumptions you made, smiling while talking about someone who is suffering is fucking weird

No. 270277

>>270269
NTA, but what a fucking nitpick. She's not jumping around and havibg a good time. She's still posting online. She's still around Tom and the baby before leaving. She's still in public as she's leaving.

She has to pretend to smile. Also, not every family member is going to get sobbed over, even for Taylor. It might not even hit her until after ffs. Anons have a weird timetable of how humans should act at certain times and it's so retarded to argue about it.

No. 270297

>>270269
I was trying to avoid weird dismissive commentary (like >>270277) about "anons" being "retarded" and poor Taylor and Taylor does nothing wrong and "anons" are all jealous …

BUT also she's not doing anything wrong right now so just leave it.

No. 270298

>>270277
she doesn't have to pretend to smile but as said above, not everyone sobs while discussing something sad, and there is some reason for her to be relieved (she made it in time to talk to her Nana). So that alone is a reason to be a little happy and it makes sense.

No. 270299

>>270298
That's not even a smile

No. 270321

>>270299
she did a bit in other stories but she just seemed to be happy she could talk to her relative

No. 270371

oh but then if she uploaded a story of her sobbing, we would never hear the end of it. damned if you do, damned if you dont.

No. 270379

>>270371
I think most anons wouldn't mind if she didn't post anything at all and only a couple of shit-stirrers just nitpick for the nitpicking's sake .

No. 270396

>>270379
yep, agreed. it's also possible not to blow up over someone's dumb comment/nitpick, not that her devoted defender(s) would dare to do that.

No. 270414

>>270371
nah, that would be way more genuine. it's creepy to smile while talking about a family member dying. she needs to just log off while she's with her grandma.

No. 270446

>>270371
Exactly. Anons just like nitpicking. The milk os that her grandma died. The unnecessary part is anon starting shit about how they think she looks in a slide and how sad news = she'snot allowed to post/smile/be alive.

No. 270447

>>270321
The post doesn't have her smiling though. If anon is going to complain about it they might want to post something that actually shows her smiling. And it doesn't even matter. That's not milk. She might not have even been close to the relative which means her emotional state might not be as severe as say someone who actually lived with them and interacted with them constantly. Not everyone in the family cries over the fact that someone else that they didn't even live with died. There's something called being estranged but still loving that family member. That doesn't mean you're gonna be crying and devastated.

No. 270462

>>270447
you obviously know nothing about taylor's history with her nana, and fuck off wk, we don't need your lectures.

No. 270463

>>270446
for fuck's sake, she's not dead yet. Can you just stfu and ignore the one anon who posted a nitpick and stop acting like a full-blown retard for one single day?

No. 270476

>>270463
>stop acting like a full-blown retard for one single day
You're throwing a tantrum.

>>270462
And what exactly is the history with her Nana? I'm basing this on the fact that she doesn't live in CAN, doesn't visit often, and anons like to say she doesn't interact with her family enough because it's always through video/phone calls. I bet that's mostly towards her parents and not really extended family outside of siblings too. No one is lecturing. You just don't know how to have a discussion.

No. 270493

File: 1670319991139.jpg (169.36 KB, 1284x2282, 317978195_1211415516119377_327…)

Is it just me or do you see panic in Tom's eyes that Taylor suddenly upped and left? I'm actually really glad Taylor has finally visited back home even if in sad circumstances, I think it was much needed(nitpicking)

No. 270498

>>270493
It's just his eyes. You're reading in to it too much. Most people open their eyes now when a camera is on then.

No. 270499

>>270493
Nah, you're nitpicking. But this photo made me realise how much Levi's eyes look like Tom's.

No. 270505

>>270493
The baby is really cute tho to say something positive kek. He’s a total dumplin’.

No. 270530

>>270493
He is just old and fat u just look sad that way

No. 270563

>>270476
Her Nana is prominently featured in all of her family and vlogmas content and has been for years. As another anon pointed out she made a huge fucking deal about her grandfather, who was shown on camera a fraction of the time as her nana, dying and publicly grieved about it for months. It's ok to not know what you're talking about but doubling down on being completely wrong just makes you look stupid and clueless.

No. 270569

>>270563
>Literally asked about the history
>You explained
Kek. You did what anon asked. She's not sobbing, sorry there's not better milk for you or something, anon. Anons said she shouldn't do tat type of broadcasting this time, but if she isn't then she doesn't care and is just vapid in what she does post. Where is the milk that isn't anons just personal feelings? When she vlogs about it or talks about it, is it suddenly going to be "forced and only for veiws" too because she didn't broadcast it enough prior to a video? What exactly are anons trying to find here?

No. 270599

>>270569
>She's not sobbing, sorry there's not better milk for you or something, anon.
No one said this is milk except one shithead.
>Anons said she shouldn't do tat type of broadcasting this time, but if she isn't then she doesn't care and is just vapid in what she does post.
her. nana. is. still. alive. And her grandfather was suddenly the focus of a ton of crying thumbnails and yeah it came across as tonedeaf and like a way to get views. Sorry that's an opinion some people had. Doesn't make Taylor evil nor is she the first person to have done that. But it came across as weird because she never talked about her grandfather much or showed himthen suddenly she couldn't work for months after he died at an old age.
>Where is the milk that isn't anons just personal feelings?
There is no milk.
>When she vlogs about it or talks about it, is it suddenly going to be "forced and only for veiws" too because she didn't broadcast it enough prior to a video?
No, we know she is close to her Nana. We dread she will do that instead of getting the therapy she needs. And god yes she needs therapy.
>What exactly are anons trying to find here?
your off button.

No. 270602

>>270476
you said her grandma was already dead, that's pretty offensive and stupid. you must not be much of a fan if you don't know how much content Taylor made with her Nana before covid or how close she is to her. So why are you even here caping day in and day out?

No. 270624

>>270493
>>270505
I was gonna say. that baby is really adorable. I hope he has a decent future.

No. 270643

>>270599
>says no milk constantly
Then what does my input matter either? Ignore what I said. No one needed your giant wall of "I don't like your opinion".

No. 270648

>>270643
>Posts wall of text nitpicking another anons opinion
>Hey no one needed your wall of text deconstructing mine!!!
This exchange is pure autism to read

No. 270828

>>270493
kek. taylor must be checking in on them every 5 minutes to make sure Tom is feeding Levi roasted squash with the skin still on and grilled chicken with salted tomatoes and garlic and elbow pasta noodles with cream, or whatever the fuck she gets weirdly detailed about.

No. 270868

>>270828
I think all of that detailed information was made into a book with "creative" doodles from Taylor herself and left to the domestic elf, I mean, help. Kek I don't believe for a minute that Tom is actually looking after the baby most of the time.

No. 270889

>>270868
oh absolutely. that's why he said, "I got this." What he meant was, "I got you someone to handle this." He's pretty clueless so I'm glad they have a full-time nanny. less probability of him fucking up and hurting the kid.

no offense to anyone saying the kid is cute (ofc he is), but I always find that weird on lc. If the kid happened to look like a potato, would that be something tragic to the nonnies here? A lot of toddlers and even older kids are uggo and grow out of it, and even if they don't, a lot of ugly adults are amazing people. I guess I don't get how a kid's looks are relevant unless they look abused or neglected.

No. 270898

>>270889
>>270868
What a reach

No. 270912

>>270889
exactly. you know the nanny is just watching the baby while she's gone. he's not even hiking he's surrounded by buildings, wtf?

No. 270953

>>270912
Not to be a WK, but that’s the peak galleria at the Victoria Peak, right next to it there are few easy walking trails. Most likely he just went there for a walk (it’s not even a hike, just a flat road that goes in circle) that takes like 45 minutes.

But I also believe the helper does most of the work, he just does the fun stuff.

No. 270955

>>270953
They both probably just do the fun stuff and things in between the helper. I don't doubt they probably still cook sometimes and do things the nanny would do when she isn't around and that seems fine IMO.

No. 270992

>>270493
I've seen anons claiming Tom is only a few years older than Taylor but he seriously looks old as hell, like 50+. Why do people think he's in his 30s?

No. 270999

>>270828
I want him to feed the baby chocolate milk or something like that whilst she's gone.

No. 271001

>>270992
I haven't seen anyone suggest he's in his 30s, though (may be some braindead fans of hers did, but I doubt even among them there are many). It's always been obvious he's much older than her.

No. 271002

>>270992
Never seen a single person in all these threads say he isn't older than her and nowhere near 'close in age'.

No. 271111

>>271001
Has anyone figured out exactly how old he is before? He looks like he's at least getting close to 50.

No. 271120

>>271111
“He's a healthy man in his mid-forties“ kek

No. 271206

>>271120
At least quote what someone says

No. 271247

>>271206
nta but Taylor said this at some point during her ivf journey iirc

No. 271249

>>271247
He's just ugly for the most part. Debating his age is pointless.

No. 271545

File: 1670686379206.jpeg (484.9 KB, 828x1580, A8870A54-B9E2-42A2-B967-02D593…)

RIP nana i always thought they had a cute relationship

No. 271548

>>271545
rest in peace, woman i have never met

sage your shit, anon. This isn't milk.

No. 271551

>>271548
Anons said she was in countless vlogs and was so close to Taylor. How is that not milk?

No. 271553

>>271551
it is not milk when someone dies. how is that milky? jesus, what is wrong with you?

No. 271554

>>271545
Always sad when a grandmother passes. RIP>

No. 271555

>>271553
It's not milk, it's a life update. No one's saying anything disrespectful. It's just something that people who follow Tay's threads would mention. touch grass

No. 271556

>>271545
RIP, she looks like she was a sweet lady. Sucks she didn't get to meet the baby.

No. 271561

>>271553
It's a fucking update. Calm down. This site isn't just for talking about shit cows do, its about discussing them too.

No. 271563

>>271555
Personally would like to see what Taylor had to say about it. I'm glad she got there in time. Can't wait for anons to say she's too happy to exist when she posts in a week.

No. 271566

>>271563
What the fuck is wrong with you?

No. 271572

>>271555
>>271561
unsaged posts are supposed to be milk. reposting social media updates of cows is not the purpose of this site. Go offer your condolences on Taylor's social media. This isn't PULL and it isn't a fansite.

No. 271577

>>271566
Anons were nitpicking her smile upthread. Keep up.

No. 271578

>>271572
Go to meta, fag. Stop being so fucking salty. This is milk compared to complaining about Tom's fucking weight unsaged.

No. 271583

>>271577
Her grandma is dead and yet you’re here talking about nitpicking.

No. 271585

>>271583
I'm making fun of the anons who did that. Reading comprehension, much?

No. 271590

>>271563
then read her post about it and fuck off, stop baiting.

No. 271601

OP here of the update sorry nonnies but I thought its ok to not sage because it fits the recent event of her rushing alone to Canada. Don’t get your panties twisted ok?

No. 271605

>>271601
You're fine. She's posting about it and what she has to say about someone important and in her old vlogs constantly is important. Anons posted about her flight being delayed and if that's milk, then the actual death of someone is absolutely milk. I don't understand why anon's are throwing a fit about something monumental.

No. 271648

>>271601
Yeah you’re fine. Anons here are obsessed with “it’s not milk!!!’ ITS NOT MILK!!!!” And it’s getting pretty fucking retarded

No. 271671

>>271545
This is a very nice post from Taylor, RIP Taylor's Nana. I'm glad she got to spend time with her at the end.

No. 271684

>>271605 Hi! Flight post here >>270017 was unsaged. Non-milk posts are unsaged, as per the site rules. No one said this was milk.

No. 272085

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wish they wouldn’t record in a big box toy store where children are walking right through their shots and parents are staring directly at the camera

No. 272094

>>272085
People look at phones no matter what when you are filming outside and in a toy store, where the baby should be, seems not out of place. People are actually just rude, especially when walking through videos/photos. Most people would go around or walk a different angle.

No. 272128

Did you dislocate a shoulder while reaching there, anon? People aren't rude for living their lives and not jumping out of the way when a vapid influencer films another dumb reel or tiktok in public. do you expect children to protect their own faces from strangers too?

No. 272135

>>272094
Wow! OP is clearly nitpicking, but your comment is even more deranged. How dare they get into a dumb influencer's shot! Jesus… WKs nowadays just HAVE TO add something dumb to an already dumb argument in order to protect their precious princess.(enough with the whiny derailing)

No. 272159

lol she just posted a reel where Levi is trying to get on her lap and she's repeatedly pushing him away so her dog can sit in her lap. wtf?

No. 272167

>>272135
Yes. Its rude.

No. 272168

>>272128
So if someone is stopped on the street, taking a photo, do you say fuck it and walk between the camera and subject too? Most people don't do that.

No. 272217

>>272168
Nta but be that as it may that child is just going about their business you sperg. If anything filming someone else's kid without consent could also be considered rude, good thing he's not facing the camera.

No. 272237

>>272217
IA it's fucking weird to film in a public place with a lot of random children. It's not like going to Disney or something where there's an assumption people are going to be taking photos or video, it's a regular toy store. She should know better as a YouTuber and influencer that filming stranger's children without comsent is a faux pas at best and illegal in many situations.

No. 272238

>>272237
HK is very touristy. It's not out of the ordinary.

No. 272256

>>272159

I saw that, looks like the dog nips at Levi too?(learn2sage)

No. 272284

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>>272256
learn to sage

Yeah, she says "no biting" to Rosie. I'm sure this is more or less normal for animals adjusting to kids, but she's dumb for posting it online. She's going to get a lot of nasty comments over this, it's a hot topic like the breastfeeding one. Sometimes I think she wants the mean comments so she can react and get clicks on her "defense" posts. I doubt Rosie's two teeth can injure the kid, but it's still one of those moments you probably don't want online forever. And yeah, Rosie should be better trained or she should avoid putting the dog and kid in situations where jealousy could break out.

I've performed a ritual in the hopes of warding off the reeing dog sperg.

No. 272287

>>272284
It is. Not to mention little dogs are like this in general which is annoying as fuck. At least they can out the dog. Need to keep an eye on him.

No. 272288

>>272287
Rosie was raised like a baby, practically, and that's why I didn't understand why Taylor was wearing Rosie more and more often during her pregnancy. If anything, it would have been a time to train Rosie to get attention and affection in other ways. But they were always going to fight over her lap because Rosie was permanently installed there before the baby came. Just odd decisions, I guess she never bothered to educate herself about integrating a baby into a household with a dog. That would have been an interesting subject for a video.

No. 272304

>>272217
I posted the original cap without the child’s face for their own privacy. in the story, Tom kept recording Taylor putzing around Toys R Us while the kid and then the parent stare right at him for 5-10 seconds each.

No. 272323

>>272304
So not even a crowd of people lol why are anons so sensitive

No. 272361

>>272323
Please anon enlighten us as to why you think it's acceptable to film someone else's kid, post it to hundreds of thousands of people, and how disagreeing with that behaviour somehow makes anons sensitive kek? Is it because the small child's rude for getting in the way of Taylor's video in a public toy store? I'll wait.

No. 272394

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it’s Taylor’s birthday so Tom orders a cake with a very custom, detailed, specific version of himself, his wife’s dog, and his baby held by an oversized, generic doll-faced Sailor Moon. NOTHING about the Sailor Moon figure has anything to do with Taylor in looks, interests, anything. of all her love for fashion, costumes, and DIYs or her literal (passing) career as a youtuber could make an amazing homage cake! but no, Tom went with a giant anime school girl (aged 15 lol) and inserted himself taking an upskirt photo. happy 34th birthday, Tay…

No. 272396

>>272394
Looks cute tbh.

No. 272412

>>272394
She recently was really excited to get a sailor moon phone case at the casetify? event, so she might like sailor moon despite never really talking about it. Also she has a very old video doing a sailor moon hairstyle (you can really see her pre-filler jawline in it and it looks so much better than now).

Just saying this for reference, I also think the cake is stupid and there’s more to Taylor than this. But as a couple they love boiling each other down to single personality traits, it’s because their whole relationship is very surface-level. That and the fact that Tom still obviously wants a kaweewee 16 year old for a wife

No. 272414

>>272394
Iirc taylor dressed up as sailor moon at least once.

No. 272418

>>272394
Good summary of the wtf level of this cake. I don't even know where to start.

No. 272420

>>272418
I hope you're kidding because anon is projecting hard in the cake. It looks nothing like upskirt photography, I don't think it's supposed to look 1:1 like Taylor [don't know why anon thought its supposed to anyway since they are both white girls with blond hair], and I don't even know why they are trying to say this is supposed to be a 15 year old version of Sailor Moon while at the same time saying it's 34 year old Taylor. Go asspat elsewhere.

No. 272424

>>272394
Tbf, it's hard to find a weeb her age who is not a Sailor Moon fan. It's kinda nice of him to make her look like a boss, while he's on the sideline, despite the questionable position for taking a photo/filming (?).
Watch sulk again because he didn't let her get him a "creative" cake, too Kek I bet we'll get it soon

No. 272428

>>272420
because it's holding her baby with her dog at her feet? fuck off wk. it's weird, people can disagree with your opinions. Tom has a long blonde hair fetish and got with Taylor when she was doll-larping.

No. 272429

>>272420
asspatting = agreeing with another anonymous poster. ok then. this is not Taylor's social media. go there and tell her how cute it is.

No. 272486

>>272428
You sound unhinged to think this is an upskirt attempt by Tom wishing Taylor was fictional Sailor Moon age.

Listen to yourself.

No. 272492

>>272394
Lmao accurate of their marriage. “Hey babe can you take this picture of me walking? Can you take this video of me getting food? So candid!!”

No. 272495

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It's not even a camera, anon is retarded

No. 272496

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>>272495
I love how a moid knows his place

No. 272503

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>>272496
I actually like the cake for this reason kek
Gonna post some more of these stories here because I think they express the Tom Taylor dynamic quite well
(inb4 not milk, this is saged)
1. The baby seems to have missed Tom's gene pool and looks a lot like Taylor imo

No. 272505

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>>272503
Carol seems to come back every so often?

No. 272507

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>>272505
Actual Tom and Taylor vs the cake

No. 272509

>>272503
>The baby seems to have missed Tom's gene pool and looks a lot like Taylor imo
Current Taylor or the old Taylor? Because Current Taylor doesn't even look like Taylor anymore. Baby def isn't some hideous thing like some made him out to be tho.

No. 272521

>>272507
that dog is so annoying.

No. 272526

>>272509
who insulted levi? no one.

No. 272545

>>272503
Goddamn that baby is cute. For real though.

No. 272550

>>272495
she says in the explanation story that he is taking photos, so yes, it is a camera. What did you think it was?

No. 272551

>>272545
please stop cluttering the thread with worthless posts like this

No. 272553

>>272486
no one said he wished she was 15. listen to your own misrepresentations.

No. 272555

>>272553

Anon knew what they meant when posting that description. Otherwise there no reason at all to bring up fictional characters ages.

No. 272567

>>272412
>Tom still obviously wants a kaweewee 16 year old for a wife
Do we have any reason to think this? Their relationship is clearly very shallow but I don't see anything like that

No. 272568

>>272567
That's what I was thinking. If anything, he doesn't seem to care. He seems pretty laid back in general. Women always worry about age which since she's gotten botox and stuff, Taylor obviously is, but anons are going to suggest it's because Tom's a pedo, so I don't even know if it's worth trying to talk about this at all. Anons just like posting these dumb takes because it's bait.

No. 272625

>>272567
When he said in a vlog that he preferred her in her old kawaii doll style.

No. 272643

>>272555
you really need to calm down, you are such a rabid little creature. Anon is entitled to an opinion and I too would be creeped out by being reimagined as a schoolgirl like this.

On that note, I am sure Taylor has probably never even watched Sailor Moon. It's part of the larp. She did that hair tutorial to try to appeal to weebs like Kotex did. She's never given the impression that she actually has seen the anime or reboot.

No. 272656

>>272625
she was also in her very early 20s when this 30+ year old man showed any interest in her, and getting deep into her dolly phase. Taylor’s always been desperate for attention and desperate to please. Tom’s stated multiple times on camera he prefers her with long hair, in school girl clothes, in lolita wear etc. I just think it’s sad Taylor got a kiddie sailor moon cake when she’s obviously more interested in other things. Tom got to wear his stupid jordans and dress the baby up like a basketball player on the cake but nothing about the SM motif is relevant to his 34 year old adult wife anymore

No. 272673

>>272643
Get help. You're looking for milk in a dry situation.

No. 272674

>>272656
Or she just likes SM and doesn't sperg about it. Sharla likes Pokemon in Jvlog and anons reee about how childish that is apparently.

No. 272683

>>272674
Sharla also likes S&M and Furry activities

No. 272689

>>272656
34 year olds can like sailor moon anon it’s exactly her generation

No. 272692

>>272689
A bunch of anons pointed that out from the initial photo too. Idk why anons are trying to make this something creepy or weird.

No. 272789

>>272656
i agree. like when's the last time (or ever?) that Taylor dressed up like Sailor Moon? he should've done them as their halloween costume or something. it's like he only thinks of her as the pre-mom girl he met.

No. 272808

>>272789
You sound insufferable.

No. 272816

>>272808
stop infighting over someone disagreeing with you

No. 273266

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ffs, even worse without glasses

No. 273267

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No. 273270

>>273268
Whenever anons get pissy about us pointing out the baby is cute, honestly it's just a reaction to seeing Tom next to the baby. It's very lucky for everyone that Taylor's genepool took the wheel.
There's absolutely nothing standout about Tom, they can't hold a conversation, but Taylor seems happy and so is the baby (and dog) so that's the important thing.

No. 273276

>>273270
the baby is a baby, no one is pissy. some people start life as ugly babies and who cares ?

No. 273385

>>273267
>>273266
Cool, back to retarded nitpicking about glasses but saying >>272507 is a cute cake is derailing lol Anons have no idea what milk is.

No. 273409

>>273266
Their relationship really is centered around the baby which isn’t good. No acknowledgement of Taylor when he comes out of the room. Even on dates she showed a picture of them just showing baby pictures during the entire date. Marriage is going to fail

No. 273430

>>273385
unsaged = not milk
sorry I offended you by saying your fantasy moid is sinfully ugly. He can also barely hold a conversation and enables pedos, even to this day (recent mc posts) Cope and seethe.

No. 273461

Sorry off topic What’s mikan mandarin thread please

No. 273744

>>273461
Doubt there is any

No. 273863

Lol so according to her Instagram she’s already trying to get pregnant again. I sincerely hope she doesn’t, seems like she’s in a rush to have kids and not actually because she thinks it’s the right time. Chill girl

No. 273874

>>273863
This is an imageboard. No1currs otherwise.post proof.

No. 273905

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>>273863
Of course she's in a rush! Her healthy, young husband is not getting younger, neither does she, plus she can't wait to make pregnancy vlogs again and whine about the difficulties of motherhood. Place your bets, how early will she start freaking out about not being pregnant yet? I say by March.

>>273874
I hope this is enough of a receipt for you lol or do you need a documentation of her stories in video format again, historian anon?

No. 273908

>>273905
Way to reupload just to add infighting.

No. 273924

>>273908
no one is forcing you to read this thread.

Taylor is fuckin weird.

No. 273925

>>273924
You need to calm down. She struggles with infertility of course she might complain that she's struggling to get pregnant. You act like this is some crazy thing that wasn't gonna happen. Let her try and have another baby if she wants another baby. How was any of this actually weird?

No. 273927

>>273925
I'm calm, thanks. It's fuckin weird how focused she is on getting pregnant again without seeming to actually enjoy having a child. It's always about getting or being pregnant (so, about her), not about the child.

>You act like this is some crazy thing that wasn't gonna happen. Let her try and have another baby if she wants another baby.

Where did I say it was crazy or try to stand in her way, kek

>How was any of this actually weird?

It's my opinion, she's fuckin weird and so are you.

>She struggles with infertility

kek, ree

No. 273932

>>273927
You're speculating a lot here.

No. 273934

>>273932
call the internet police, then.

No. 273987

>>273905
Guess that bitch needs the second try to get a girl.

No. 274002

>>273927
Nta but this is all projection, having a second child reasonably soon after the first one is the most normal thing ever. Having a large gap is more unusual, most people you know will have a sibling with a roughly two year age gap, including the pregnancy itself means most mothers get pregnant again in the first year after the birth.
It makes sense imo to get all the body horror of pregnancy and birth, and the disruption of having a crying baby in the house, all done at once, rather than spread over many years, and give the child a sibling for company.

The weird bit is having a child with someone you can't hold a conversation with imo, she reposted that same clip of her at that park a year before the birth hoping for pregnancy, and making a big "pregnant belly" hand gesture to signal to Tom wtf she was talking about. Having to communicate on such a level with your husband is one thing, but parenting is so complex and stressful and she can't even discuss it in detail with the father of her children.

No. 274014

>>274002
I kinda think the whole magical end of the breastfeeding journey at 3-4 months was engineered so she could get pregnant again asap. I don't believe for one second that she enjoyed being pregnant or the aftermath, no matter what she says.

>>273987
reported for bait. fuck off with your misogyny

No. 274019

>>274014
That's not how that works. Stop trying to make some weird conspiracy theory about a couple that wants to have another baby.
>She stopped breastfeeding on purpose, it was PLANNNNNNNWD
Do you hear yourself?

No. 274020

>>274002
You're basing their entire relationship communication on snippets.

No. 274025

>>274019
you're so boring and rabid over nothing. She was already talking about getting pregnant again right after giving birth, which is strange.

No. 274026

>>274025
Are you a scrote? You gotta be kidding.

No. 274029

>>273925
If she struggles with infertility, how on earth does she expect to be pregnant in less than a year? Infertility is defined as anyone trying for more than a year. Or is she trying IVF right away?

No. 274030

>>274020
That’s all she shows. She’s always bossing Tom around or has cameras set up literally everywhere until she captures the rare candid moment (wholesome moments shouldn’t be so rare that you need to have cameras rolling all the time to capture them)

No. 274031

>>274002
I thought she enjoyed motherhood though? Why would she want to get all the newborn stuff out of the way

No. 274039

>>274019
Are you the same retard from the jvloggers thread, your typing style is so obvious it's embarrassing. Breastfeeding prevents pregnancy, it's logical for someone who wants to get pregnant again not to? do things that prevent it? not a conspiracy, retard
>>274029
Apparently your fertility is higher after giving birth, so I think she was hoping for a natural pregnancy for round two
>>274030
Yeah I think formulating an opinion from "snippets" is fair when she documents her whole life on camera and all we've seen is a very low level of communication. Are we supposed to believe they have deep philosophical conversations but only off camera kek. They clearly get along well but there is an obvious language barrier which we don't need to see a 24 hour live feed to ascertain

No. 274041

>>274039
I'm calling out anon for acting like stopping breatfeeding was some nefarious plot.

No. 274048

>>274041
except anon said nothing 'nefarious', just that she could have made a decision to stop at 3 or 4 months for the purpose of getting pregnant again. Pretending it was natural end to breastfeeding isn't some giant lie or evil. though you seem to assume any discussion that isn't praise is slander.

It's gross that she is doing formula advertising now though. Formula is pushed really hard in China and HK.

No. 274061

>>274048
Good point. Interesting how the baby formula ad went unnoticed here, while anons are busy bitching about a non-issue like a (as of now) non-existent pregnancy.
The ad is double stupid, given that she was speaking about ordering it online not too long ago (if my memory is not tricking me). Speak of hypocrisy.

No. 274062

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>>274061
Here's Taylor's Enfinitas ad. She got a little blowback in the comments for not clearly marking it as an ad and for promoting formula. China, HK, and Russia aggressively push formulas, there's been studies on how they send women to market formula even in private mom groups on WeChat.

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>>274062
>>274061
And here's her bff Jess's ad.

No. 274083

>>274062
Where? I see no pushback. At least post proof of comments. I don't know why you posted both of their things when both of them are showing AD status, but in different ways.

No. 274085

>>274048
There was nothing wrong with formula and if someone wants to get pregnant they're gonna stop breastfeeding. You sound like such a handmaiden basically acting like a child needs to be breastfed at all times until they're a certain age. That is not the case. And didn't she say she had issues breastfeeding as well? Why keep doing something that's not clearly working for you and your baby? It obviously also opened up an opportunity for her to stop anyway because she wants to get pregnant again.

So yes, it sounds like anon is assuming it's some nefarious plot for this obsession she has with being pregnant because she apparently needs content.
>Of course she's in a rush! Her healthy, young husband is not getting younger, neither does she, plus she can't wait to make pregnancy vlogs again and whine about the difficulties of motherhood. Place your bets, how early will she start freaking out about not being pregnant yet? I say by March.
That obviously sounds like anon is saying she is getting pregnant just for attention and money without outright being a dick.
>she is on getting pregnant again without seeming to actually enjoy having a child. It's always about getting or being pregnant (so, about her), not about the child.
These takes are insane. Are you blind?

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No. 274090

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>>274085
>>274083
nah the WHO actually tries to enforce bans on formula advertising so mothers are not pressured into buying a product. Russian and Chinese companies ignore these bans, US probably too.

I'm not all those posters you quoted so w/e. I don't care what women do but I do think formula ads are shitty, especially when disguised as "what my fav celebrity influencer is doing"

No. 274093

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>>274090
there are a few more comments but anyway there's no reason to be involved in shilling formula in HK unless you just want money.

You can read more here
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7967752/
or
https://globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12992-020-00597-w
>The campaigns use emotional appeals to reach out to and build relationships with parents and especially mothers. Evocative brands give these approaches a human face. The advent of social media has made it easier to pose as the friend and supporter of parents; it is also providing companies with a rich stream of personal data with which they hone and target their campaigns.

No. 274097

>>274090
>>274093
I have a feeling you're in the wrong thread because you're derailing on a whole other thing. This is not true at all. Formula isn't bad for children. We literally just went over this in another thread on here for Taylor. You're issues with formula aren't reality, anon. Go to /OT/ for this type of discussion. At this point, it's not even about Taylor. Handmaidens and their purity bs over breastfeeding don't belong here.

No. 274099

>>274087
>#partner
Commentor can't read. You don't have to say AD specifically.

No. 274100

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>>274093
final example
having serious issues with bad practices like these makes you a thinking woman, not a handmaiden. Obviously many women are going to use formula and should do what is right for them. They don't need deceptive advertising implying their own breast milk lacks stuff for immunity and intelligence tho(breastfeeding derail)

No. 274103

>>274097
anon wanted examples from comments so I posted them and explained why some people have issues

I did a project on this subject (ethics/advertising) at uni. I have zero interest in policing anyone's personal choices. Corporate choices are a different matter.

No. 274104

>>274100
Were you not even here the last thread or something? She outsources her formula. Your tangent is retarded and not even about Taylor anymore. Also, you can add vitamins and stuff to formula which can make it healthier in instances where a NICU-Pre might not get sufficient nutrients from the mother.

No. 274105

>>274103
You're not posting comments. You're posting extra stuff which has nothing to do with Taylor at all. This thread isn't about breastfeeding and breast milk. You're going on some whole other discussion here which has nothing to do with Taylor.

No. 274108

>>274105
You called me a handmaiden for posting the comments from her IG and explaining some stuff, calm down. She's involved in advertising formula, that's a choice you know.

I posted the proof you couldn't be bothered to go read yourself.

No. 274110

>>274104
this is the exact formula she uses, anon. Enfinitas is sold exclusively in the HK market, in fact. It makes specific claims, too.

No. 274111

>>274108
Yeah, you are.

No. 274112

>>274110
You do know sponsorship don't mean you actually use the product right. So which is it, does she import in or does she use their own products? Because in the last thread apparently she imports in. This is such a non discussion and it has no issues whatsoever so I don't know why people are even bringing this up and trying to make it seem like this is some bad thing. God save the women who can't breastfeed whatsoever because apparently their kids are gonna die according to people in this thread for using formula. This is so stupid.

No. 274125

I don't have an issue either with formula or breastfeeding. What I have a problem with is her advertising a formula she's not actually using for her child. Sctrach that. I have a problem with companies paying influencers to push literal baby food. It shouldn't be allowed, imo. And, yes, I know every country has its rules.

No. 274148

>>274125
No2currs about your stance on formula.

No. 274224

>>274112
ntayrt
You were frothing at the mouth and didn't even read or watch the content, anon? She uses that formula. It may not be made in HK but it is sold exclusively in HK. When you exaggerate and throw a shitfit over a couple anons saying she could have thought twice about the ethics of promoting formula, you come across as unhinged. The baby thread in /ot/ has similar criticism about formula ads. I don't get why you want to police everyone's opinion about Taylor's business dealings, pretty sure it is fair game since she is an influencer.

No. 274251

>>274224
Even mods are tired of you. Move on already. If you're opinion sucks, that's your fault. Anons can call it out.

No. 274322

>>274251
I'm none of the posters above, just impressed you don't even watch or read the content you comment on.
>If you're opinion sucks, that's your fault. Anons can call it out.
no u

No. 274449

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I see she doesn't care how gross ew-san looks, but the contrast of her puffy pillowface next to his is depressing in more than one way. Why would you want to share a bed with either of these creatures?

No. 274456

>>274449
they’re so gross lol. love how their entire date day (they needed a break from what? every other day where the nanny takes care of everything?) including lunch for two and a couples massage needed to be shared with the world

No. 274461

>>274449
Reported for more non-milk nitpicking. At least make it milky.

No. 274466

>>274461
it's saged discussion, anon. why do you camp out here and flip out? they both look hideous and creepy

No. 274472

>>274449
It might be just me, but I don't find Tom gross looking. He looks like any other middle-aged man. But of course, he is disgusting because of his actions.

No. 274495

>>274472
TBH, same.

No. 274496

>>274449
Lmao god damn. He looks like he wants nothing to do with her.

No. 274497

>>274496
bet they only ever get couples massages for this reason. if anyone else touches him she has to be in the room

No. 274519

>>274466
Plot twist they're a paid provocateur hired by none other than the cows themselves! This is what their nanny does when Taylor has the baby in the morning kek. Inb4 someone takes this seriously like everyone's not already aware their "no milk/nitpicking" sperging is all over /w/.

No. 274524

>>274449
He's really looking haggard. Can't stand that mop of hair.

No. 274526

>>274472
if he lost some weight, got a proper haircut, and some better eyeglasses, he would be tolerable looking. As of right now, he looks like an unkempt hikikomori who spends all day on 5ch.

No. 274531

>>274526
his men's mag caters to those men. but why would taylor look at this embarrassing combination of genetic material (inside and out) and decide yes those genes should get passed on.

No. 274550

>>274449
She looks good/normal people am here are retarded. Where’s the milk? She probably shouldn’t even be a lolcow anymore, she’s just some basic pretty mommy blogger

No. 274553

>>274550
this isn't her fanpage.

No. 274559

>>274526
My thoughts exactly, nonnie. Somebody get this man a proper haircut and a personal trainer. He sure as hell can afford both…

No. 274572

>>274553
NTA, stfu. Just because someone else is nitpicking doesn't mean someone else can't disagree she looks fine and I think they look fine too. Sorry not every anon has 12 year old gossip energy and mentality. Has nothing to do with being a fan of hers.

No. 274584

>>274572
if you want to tell everyone how Taylor is such a pretty wonderful mommy blogger, this isn't really the right place.

No. 274605

>>274526
100%. Sick of witnessing how ugly scrotes who don't take care of themselves has become so normalized that even anons here think he looks decent. The bar is so low.

No. 274621

>>274605
If you're going to complain about general scrotes, go to /ot/.

No. 274622

>>274584
She does look nice there. Deal with it.

No. 274634

>>274550
Because she’s a terrible mom and a shady person.

No. 274654

>>274634
She hasn't done anything bad as a mom, but this bait says it all.

No. 274687

>>274621
>>274622
ntayrt but why do you cape for her here? we're entitled to opinions and you're not the mod of this board.

No. 274688

>>274622
"looking nice" is not an objective fact. That's just your opinion. So deal with that.

No. 274712

>>274687
Nice tagging different anons.

No. 274720

>>274449
He looks fucking miserable. Probably has a few side chicks already.

No. 274729

>>274723
Welcome to imageboards where the world didn't revolve around you and your posts only.

No. 274742

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>>274712
clearly same

No. 274743

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>>274712
why lie about such a dumb samefag

No. 274744

>>274743
>>274742
Stop shitting up the thread, you autist.

No. 274748

>>274744
stop being mad someone called you out, then. I saw your post in meta. You're the one who hates other people disagreeing with you. "She looks nice there. Deal with it." As if that's some fact? You're deranged.

No. 274751

>>274720
The fact that he’s angling himself away from her tells a lot tbh

No. 274758

>>274748
Go infight in meta if you saw the posts. Knock it off.

No. 275155

>>274751
>mfw you're this anon and you're psychoanalyzing the way someone's husband stands in a photo
He just looks tired and relaxed, he is funding her house, expensive purchases, and ivf baby which is more than 99% of scrotes would do, and seems happy to me, some anons really imagining drama where there is none

No. 275177

>>275155
all those things are his, too. He thinks pedophilia isn't bad and suggestive pics of young barely teens belong next to porn models. Stop responding to 2-3 day old posts to defend this shitty moid. He has money and that's it.

No. 275179

>>275177
This isn't about that. Shut up.

No. 275195

>>275179
>more than 99% of scrotes would do
wow

No. 275208

>>275195
I'm NTA you even replied to. >>275155 had nothing to do with his magazine. >>275177 Anon just wants to bring up Tom's old milk any time they can. Stay salty and keep ruining threads though, you do you.

No. 275243

>>275208
he funds his life through the magazine. he wanted the baby and expensive shit too. That's not something he is "funding" for his wife. And the audacity of coming in here to respond to days-old posts praising this SOB. he's a nasty impotent man and will never be your Nigel.

No. 275322

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was wondering what the cursed doll in m3gan reminded me of and just realised its taylor. the overblown cheeks + lips strike an unfortunate resemblance

No. 275334

>>275243
This is about the massage photo. The fuck?

No. 275341

>>275155
>his wife is leeching off of him. He seems happy to me

No. 275373

>>275322
the joker lines! you're right! kek

No. 275375

>>275341
yeah, two people live in a house with expensive shit and two people make a baby. she's not leeching off of him, what a misogynistic thing to say.

No. 275382

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>>275322
I can't find any difference.

No. 275567

>>275375
Yeah she’s not leeching off of him, she just buys designer shit, doesn’t work and argues with him about using her “display“ towels. No resentment there at all I’m sure

No. 275630

>>275567
It comes with the territory. You want a trophy wife? Be prepared to pay for it. Literally.
Tbf, they totally deserve each other.

No. 275641

>>275630
And whether anons like it or not, her social media presence does bring in money and probably more than regular influencers. Content creation is a job, especially in 2023. This isn't like people saying this in 2002 when websites and blogs started becoming lucrative in a minor sense. So in general, they both work. I don't want to hear from anons how 'totally not hard' creating content is because it is a pain, especially if you have a small team and Taylor seems to have like only one person at home helping film for the most part and most editing is all up to her and that takes time, add that to XXX amount of collabs/sponsors/gift videos. I think it's pretty dumb to say she doesn't financially add to the relationship at all. Tom has money, but I don't think she leeches like anons fanfiction it.

No. 275655

>>275641
I don't think having a life together and things that are shared = leeching. It's not her house, it's theirs. Their baby. Their shit.

Yes she probably makes a decent amount from her "influencing" - sad world we live in tbh. Comments on her Bilibili videos say her editor/assistant quit so that's why she doesn't upload there anymore. Not sure if that's true or not or how they know, but I've seen it on multiple videos. Other people are uploading and translating (subtitles) because she stopped doing it entirely. I doubt she was really editing much herself. She showed us how she tells her editor/assistant to edit even reels and tiktoks, no way was she doing whole YT videos alone. She still has one or two assistants for filming though

No. 275674

>>275322
I’m DEAD. She’s identical. Actually identical. I know she’ll view the doll aspect as a compliment, but it definitely is not in this case. She looks made out of rubber.

No. 276253

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picrel, in the latest vlog tom says that he originally bought her a sailor moon cake one year but they were having a huge fight and didn't eat it. in the previous vlog she talks about how they're struggling to be on the same wavelength or as close now that they're parents. this made me feel really sad idk why? I guess I just secretly hoped that tom loves taylor more than he lets on in vlogs.

No. 276254

>>276253
Sounds like new parents.

No. 276290

>>276253
I noticed Taylor looked sad in recent photos she posted on Stories, the outtakes from the most recent influencer appearance she did. I thought I was tinfoiling but maybe not, I think as a big family girl she obviously would hope for more closeness now she's had a child, not less. I have a theory most moids don't really comprehend the realities of fatherhood until they get there, a huge task, stress, life derailer and so on.

No. 277574

>>276253
yeah it was weird to me that they had a big fight in Japan, i wonder what it was about. they usually seem really happy together on camera, who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

No. 277588

>>277574
Maybe he beats her and the baby and that's why she's so sad all the time in glimpses not from when she's filming herself. Any other tinfoil anons want to throw out there and have it not just be she wasn't posing or smiling for a second? The analyzing is insane when you cap a still in a way that goes with it.

No. 277599

>>277574
About the colour of the bag she wanted or smt. I don't believe it was because of something serious lol neither of them has the communication skills for serious discussions or arguments.

No. 277611

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>>276253
it was probably shortly before she filmed this video about having a bad day in Tokyo https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xs411y7ou

Around 7:00, she has to measure her fingers for rings and she makes a pointed comment about engagement rings and diamonds: "if anyone wants to buy me an engagement ring…" "diamond, please. big big diamond." At the time no one knew she had a boyfriend, so the comment wasn't that weird, but in retrospect it is really strange to say that knowing you have been with someone for more than 2(?) years iirc. Maybe he missed the anniversary or something.

The whole tone of that video was odd enough that people discussed it at length at the time.

No. 277617

>>277588
wtf is wrong with you? go away

No. 277621

>>277588
retard

No. 277684

>>277611
Could've been a bunch of small annoyances between them, not even about them too, that had them in bad moods too. We have no idea what happened. It's so old at this point.

No. 277689

>>277684
sure, but Tom brought it up in the video, it's human nature to talk about it casually since they decided to leave it in the video

No. 277691

>>277689
I mean anons tinfoiling the cause.

No. 277737

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I'm sure this mouth-breather has sleep apnea and doesn't use a cpap machine. he's almost always breathing through his mouth when being filmed casually. Taylor did a tiktok about how he falls asleep at random strange times, which is another symptom of sleep apnea disrupting the quality of sleep. Some tiktok fans brought it up in the comments but she didn't reply. If he cares about his health and the quality of sleep that Taylor gets, he should do a sleep study.

If anyone in anons' families is like this, encourage them to get checked out bc sleep apnea over time can cause serious permanent health issues.

No. 277744

>>277737
Of course, she would ignore it, it's nonsense. Why should she have to argue everything that's just thrown at the wall about either of them or the baby? Even if it's true, how do you know they aren't already treating it? Something like that doesn't just magically go away and if he does something like smoking, COPD can cause mouth breath sounds as well. The tinfoil from people about the most mundane things and pretending it's from a place of concern is so obvious.

No. 277763

>>277744
you clearly have no idea what mouth-breather means, kek.

>Why should she have to argue everything that's just thrown at the wall about either of them

indeed, that's why they have you

No. 277814

>>277763
OP said >>277737

>I'm sure this mouth-breather has sleep apnea and doesn't use a cpap machine.

>he's almost always breathing through his mouth

Sure.

No. 277817

>>277814
it's an insult, anon, and has nothing to do with "mouth breath sounds." copd? ffs he isn't 70.

No. 277828

>>277588
Oh come on. He doesn't do anything to her. She looks sad because she's a golddigger who married a fat ugly old man for money. Many such cases of golddiggers feeling some regret later when they realize $ isn't everything in life.

No. 277832

>>276253
Most first-time parents go through this phase, it's common.

>>277817
nta just admit you're ignorant of the origin of mouth breather as an insult.

No. 277833

>>277828
the ayrt is baiting and suggesting something so retarded in order to try to stop any discussion of their princess

No. 277835

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>>277832
kek, yep

No. 277838

>>277574
The fact that hideous old men have the nerve to fight with women who are out of their league is so hilarious and sick to me
say what you will about Taylor but her past look was every otaku Asian male’s wet dream, whether or not you personally like it should be irrelevant, it’s obvious Asian men cream over blonde blue eyed skinny white girls who dress kawaii and would kill for her to be their waifu
Taylor could have gotten a better looking rich Asian man easily, she likely chose Tom due to a combination of low self confidence and wanting to always feel like the more beautiful one.
Can’t wait for the weebs to try to defend Asian men by saying they don’t actually fetishize white girls or something, but anyone with a brain recognizes it
So the idea that Taylor is sitting around arguing with a hideous fat ogre and that the ogre has grown so accustomed to how good he has it that he doesn’t even appreciate it is wild

No. 277840

>>274449
Omfg he is so incredibly fucking ugly. Taylor is mentally ill.

No. 277846

>>277840
Imagine a world where women fuck ugly richen for a comfortable life….

No. 277851

>>277838
lmao, believe me, if Taylor had a better chance with anyone else, she would've ditched Tom's ugly ass in a blink. He was probably the "highest bidder", so she settled.

No. 277852

>>277851
she "fell in love with his personality." Everytime I hear him speak English, I wonder how anyone can stand to listen to that. He can't even speak in full sentences. His Cantonese is less grating, tho. Sad that neither of them seem to care about seriously learning the other person's native language.

I'm sure they got to know each other by Taylor sending pics of herself pouting in little girl outfits and he would reply saying how beautiful she was. Like doll! Goddess! Wow babe.

No. 277875

>>277838
>and that the ogre has grown so accustomed to how good he has it that he doesn’t even appreciate it is wild
During the pandemic several 8-10/10 beautiful women I followed on Instagram got dropped by their ogres. One ogre has now returned, the other two women (who were married) are still single (and one went full tilt religious after a period of extreme depression)
These men absolutely don't realize how good they have it. I actually don't think this relationship is for life, I can see Taylor remarrying a more handsome man in about a decade.

No. 277881

>>277838
>Taylor could have gotten a better looking rich Asian man easily, she likely chose Tom due to a combination of low self confidence and wanting to always feel like the more beautiful one

I don't buy that at all. Finding a guy who's financially stable, not a shitbag, under 40 AND physically attractive is like finding a fucking unicorn (especially in Hong Kong or Japan). Being a model/youtuber in a foreign country isn't the most stable or secure lifestyle so I think she was attracted to the fact that he could help to finance a lifestyle she couldn't have on her own.

No. 277882

>>277611
I remember in the engagement video, the first thing that the moid asked was "is it big enough?"
it was so weird and awkward

No. 277913

>>277881
Agreed, Taylor did her best but she was past a prime age and she's tall for those countries. He was definitely the highest bidder in the small social circle she had because she never cared to learn the language or integrate.

>>277852
Even if someone doesn't speak English well, their personality will come out. They both don't have much personality between them other than what to buy or brag about to their friends who are more wealthy.

No. 277924

>>277852
>Like doll! Goddess! Wow babe.
Fucking kek anon I read this in his voice

No. 278017

>>277913
Tall for those countries? Asian men don’t expect western women to be short like Asian women, they definitely like the idea of a tall blonde model waifu, in general Asians think taller women are more desirable since being short is the norm

No. 278028

>>275322
The producers definitely google searched “human doll” and modeled Megan after a Kota / Taylor hybrid.

No. 278037

>>278017
Tom is a manlet, he's def shorter than she is

No. 278052

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>>277737
kek, i happened to save this one

No. 278056

>>277924
Another anon put that idea in my head actually, lol, it was quoted in the last thread
>>190578
>holy fuck, I can't imagine having all this concern for the wife of a dude who expressed from day 1 that he like kawaii childish women. A guy who dates his employees. Taylor said she spent hours talking to him everyday. Given his abysmal command of English, how much do you want to bet that she sent him kawiwi selfies and he said "whoa babe like princess" over and over?

No. 278071

>>277913
Past prime? So what is a woman’s prime? Being a child? Seriously what’s this incel misogynistic mentality. So women in society should not study or work but find a husband the moment they reach 18 or else past 20 something she is past her prime. Sound like something those pedo scrotes would say.

No. 278084

>>278071
The age crap is always something anons say, regardless of the age, because dunking on a woman's age is a go-to for insults. It's absolutely internalized misogyny and that's why people like Taylor get work done because of mentalities like that. Anon's most likely know this and they think it's funny to make jabs at it when it's just a waste of time.

No. 278089

>>278084
I agree with you, Internalized misogyny is definitely pathetic.

No. 278110

>>278071
I think anon meant her "carrier" prime, as a model, not her actual age, but I guess you could be right, too.

No. 278121

I'm not a fan of Taylor but agree that talking about her "prime" when it comes to relationships is ridiculous. And good models can keep working if they embrace and work with their naturally aging features.

No. 278129

>>278071
Prime as a working model, she wasn't getting any work and was stuffing her face with fillers in hopes of getting gigs for models nearly 10 years her junior.

No. 278249

>>278129
>as if Naomi and other models aren't filled to the brim with fillers
>Handid sisters can barely emote at all compared to Taylor
If you're going to make terrible arguments, at least make them better than this. All models do it diet and visit surgeons constantly. What world do you live on? Take your stupid model sperging elsewhere. Taylor was doing fine as a model and now she does it with posts through Instagram without having to run around and get to gigs. Just stop already and find a better vendetta point.

No. 278269

>>278249
>comparing Taylor to an original supermodel and millionaire nepotism models who are still working
>thinking Taylor had even a little of the opportunity and success they did in Japan of all places, kek

Absolute retardation that Taylor fans keep coming here to wk with the derailing.

No. 278274

>>278269
Calling people whiteknights makes no sense here, anon. They are using the point of models who are older than Taylor and who have had filler, starvation diets, body checking, and still model too. >>278129 Mentions filler and says younger models were the problem when older models do work so age isn't an issue. There's no reason to derail about Taylor's modeling again. Still reeks of internalized misogyny like >>278071 mentioned

No. 278278

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>>278269
agree with you
>>278249
>>278274
you're derailing to infight and mini modding. not every post that doesn't agree with you is a vendetta. Tay's face is frozen stiff I'm sad to say

No. 278286

anons, please ignore the "Taylor was/is a successful model" troll. We've butchered the topic last time no need to rehash a pointless argument.
Re: Taylor getting "modeling" jobs on insta - it is called being an influencer/instagram model and has nothing to do with the big names anon(s) brought as examples of being successful after a certain age. And even among fashion models the vast majority retire by age 25-28. A couple of outliers and napotism babies don't change it.

No. 278290

>>278278
It’s frozen because women are not allowed to age according to retards like you. Guess what being a pick me won’t make you special in the eyes of those scrotes. you can dislike her but bringing age to degrade a woman is very pitiful and you don’t make life for any of us better mostly for those who fought for years so you can live the comfort you do now or you would be sold to slave markets and dare to talk you will be called a witch and beat you to death.

No. 278293

>>278290
Taylor is responsible for what she does to her face, and no one else. The rest of your comment is fuckin weird, idek what to say. Like one anon makes an age comment, others disagreed with it, and then you act liek we all called her a hag when it never happened.

No. 278299

>>278293
The comically aggressive feminist manifesto dropped over subjective discussion on an imageboard legit reads like larp. I've scrolled past this thread and half of /w/ enough times to assume it's just bait at this point.

No. 278330

>>278290
Don't bother. The anons that post in here have some of the dumbest nitpicks and takes and all because they care less about logic and because it's funny to make this thread an archive when at the same time arguing with other anons it's not an archive and they can't post 'fan stuff' when it's just posts about her life, but not nitpicking all the way up your ass to get a moral of attempted milk. I agree with you, anon. The desperation to say Taylor isn't a model for the same reasons there are women 30 years old still doing the same modeling she was doing, just shows it's not about the modeling and moreso the fact they just want misogynist views to effect the cows they hate only, but not other women.

>>278293
The idea of calling women out of prime is so prevalent on lolcow that it's a shame to know it's mostly other women here. That's the issue, but then complain about the same women who go and get procedures because of comments like that, so it's clearly just a shitpost take to bait. Calling it out isn't bait.

No. 278367

>>278330
i have a lot of trouble understanding what you're even trying to say half the time. Have you tried writing shorter sentences in English? from one ESL to another.

No. 278368

>>278286
It's just one wk who does fake moralfagging then baits everyone by misinterpreting their posts.

They're legit projecting their own insecurities around age, procedures and work onto other's posts at this point. The fact that they don't even realize how your post was directed to them and think this place welcomes Taylor fans screams ESL.

No. 278369

>>278368
I'm not even the anon who called out the original prime post. There's more than one person here.

No. 278418

>>278368
Pretty much spot on, the behaviour is extremely consistent. This isn't the place to infight about your personal insecurities because of a poorly worded offhand comment, it's an imageboard for laughing at cows. Anons aren't a radfem hivemind either and crying this hard over something that would've received a simple "fuck off" a few years ago just makes it obvious they're all new.

No. 278465

>>278418
man, I reread and the "prime" comment that anon made was absolutely about modelling and not anything else. Moralfag got us fighting over nothin

No. 278469

File: 1674559938562.jpg (556.64 KB, 1080x1719, IMG_20230124_152834.jpg)

I'm not sure if she truly believes in this shit or not, but I'm sure we'll hear a LOT of whining about this as soon as something goes not as she planned.

No. 278546

>>278469
I doubt she'll remember any of her cute little lunar new year activities a week or two from now. Just like all those brand gifts she gets. Posted and never seen again.

No. 278601

>>278469
She loves this shit to make her look special nothing more. I always wished she was more interested in the Chinese/HK culture.

No. 278630

>>278546
Most don't since it's a repetitive holiday

No. 278657

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after all these years living in asia, she still can't for the love of god use chopsticks

No. 278664


No. 278709

Anyone else notice how she’s always looking down or away from the camera? Is she that self conscious or is she trying to make pictures look candid

No. 278729

>>278709
It's not always, so that doesn't really make sense. Most people, when shooting where you can see yourself, look at yourself in the finder instead of the actual camera. Maybe that's what you're seeing.

No. 278758

>>278729
not sure I see what ayrt is talking about (will check) but come on now, you're going to pretend taylor doesn't know how to shoot properly after all these years? She never had this issue in the past, she isn't 'most people'

No. 278906

>>278758
Pretty sure if we had phones we have now back when she started, she would be.



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