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Taylor R is a “hardworking” “self-made” “successful” former model and Youtuber from Canada whose main claim to fame used to be copying Dakota’s embarrassing 2012-2015 living doll phase. She’s since abandoned this endeavor to copy Casey Neistat, the Kardashians, Jenna Marbles, Safiya Nygaard, and Valeria Lipovesky, among others. In the past, she focused on bad DIY videos and boring 30-minute vlogs in which she recaps serious challenges from her week, including hiring assistants, eating food, drinking coffee, exercising, seeing various scam artists (fortune tellers, naturopathic healers).
Her husband, Tom Lip is a successful businessman. One of his companies, MenClub, was exposed for featuring at least 8 underage (age 12-16) girls in skimpy clothing on their site. After news of this spread, Taylor made two videos defending the right of men to ogle children (it’s “cultural”! Don’t like, don’t click!), stated it’s just one or two people who hate her, and insisted that she was never an escort, a claim no one ever made seriously.
Taylor herself has started her own business, TOAT, which is, alas, currently completely abandoned for pandemic and motherhood reasons.
Ever since her successful carrier(s) faded, she focused on her IVF "journey", more about which can be found in previous threads. The said journey resulted in a new carrier - one of a kind and never seen before family and childcare vlogging! Along with it came mini lectures about Traditional Chinese medicine and post-partum confinement, presented as universal truth and law.
After noticing a decline in interest to the new content, she suddenly remembered that she had many cultural shocks when she first moved to Hong Kong a decade ago and started making reels and TikToks about the newest trending topic, accompanied by walls of text explaining the said customs.
Beware the white knights and stans in Taylor’s thread. Focus on the milk and ignore the filler, farmers.
Taylor’s Links: https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.R.Officialhttps://www.instagram.com/taytay_xx/https://www.youtube.com/user/TaylorR1488https://www.tiktok.com/@tay_richardhttps://twitter.com/iamtay_tayhttps://toat.com https://www.instagram.com/toat.co
Tom Lip's controversial site for men: https://www.menclub.hk/
Old links (no longer updated):http://lovetaylor.com/http://www.weibo.com/taylorrichardhttp://lineblog.me/taylor/https://ameblo.jp/iamtaytay/ http://taytay.zipper.jp/ http://www.cchan.tv/clipper/taylor
Idk why people hate on her so much, other than her creepy husband she’s totally benign and she’s obviously naturally good looking.
Where’s the milk?
go look through old threads or old jvlog threads
basically got famous for being a failed idol in Japan. Did a bunch of a cringe bizarre stuff that caused a lot of second hand embarrassment. After she failed, kinda pretended to be a self made influencer when in reality was hiding ceo bf funding her.
BUT she moved past all that just settled as a housewife/mom. But I think most can sense there's just something off about her/them that you just can't put your finger on. Always has been that way.
I dont hate her at all, she's just vanilla but…>naturally good looking
She doesnt look natural at the all. Plus she has a pretty average look, nothing to write home about. >>257822
That's such a good way to put it like there's something not quite right about them but what it is is hard to pinpoint.
>>258281>But imagine going through all those treatments and birth without a single female relative or native speaker around
I think she videocalls family and friends very often, and the staff she has shown in videos speak English.
She seemed to latch onto her pui yuet quite hard though which I think shows how much she misses irl family in these times.
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I guess the girl boss era didn't end after all.
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rise and grind~ it’s hard work window shopping on taobao to upsell wholesale polyester pants again
The main reason this is baloney is because note how specific she is about HK. She doesn't really mention China as it is now. If she were mentioning China as a whole, I might be willing to share the tinfoil hat with you, nona. >>258655
Lmao you are not around many white women who have mixed babies, then.
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Lmao, did she absolutely have to take a blurry, scary AF selfie for this?
Well, he definitely didn't mean it, babies that age don't know what they're doing - mostly copying what adults do, but someone has to tell her you're not supposed to kiss your babies on the lips (weird anons DON'T fucking jump at this, it's for health reasons).
What was more meh for me was her constantly glancing at the camera. You're supposed to enjoy "cute" moments instead of trying to film every fucking thing that happens in your meaningless life.
yeah he thought it was a nipple, kek
I agree about the constant obsession with the camera though. Sick behavior.
I don't even know how that was even whiteknighting. This shit isn't milk, was never milk, and anons like >>260292
just throw things into the thread and hope to God something sticks to be controversial. I don't take anything posted by these idiots as serious, but they get so pissy when you question their dumbass takes.
It sucks, but it's sadly completely "normal". There are even terms for it- "Weaponized incompetente" or "Paternal Unerperformin". Many men can't do the simplest tasks regarfing household and childcaring. Either they don't bother to learn, because it is considered the "woman's task", or they deliberately don't do it correctly or pretend not to know how to do it to avoid having to do a task. :(
Does it make it better that Tom seems to be a man like this? No, absolutely not. But it is certainly not a fault that's exclusive to him.
Men think the deal is you birth, raise and school kids, do any housework, cooking, whatever that is needed, and asking them to help is akin to, in their minds, changing the deal they signed up to.
Of course men pretend to be in a partnership (with words only, no actions) since women do actually need help from their husbands and would be unwilling to commit to marriage and kids if they realised they will never
get any true effort at help from him, but the men never intend on actually
helping and find any request for help insulting, and breaking the terms of the deal they wrote and signed in their head kek
Same as when women look for boyfriends and dates, the deal the man thinks
is happening is a very convoluted search for cock and sex, and all the other stuff about relationships, shared interests and feelings is just some frilly act you have to go through to get the true
deal which is actually "want cock? tick box Y/N"
Men just spend their lives maneouvering around women's complex frills and pomp when the deals men make up in their heads and think
we agreed to are very simple and not great for the woman.
This is why "weaponised incompetence" is so across the board and rarely punished. Pretending their conscious, lifelong choices are an "accident" when they never intended on doing any of that work. At least in Taylor's case Tom has the money to hire help if needed, most women are just left with zero help and struggling.
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Is Levi wearing a face mask?
Looks like it kek is this regulation in hk? Maybe because of the pollution?
Had to kek at her grandpa butt in these pants
Why don't you guys Google at least even a little? As of yesterday: >People who do not wear a mask face a fixed penalty of HK$5,000, or a maximum fine of HK$10,000 if they are found guilty in court.
This is in HK. Not China, HK. This includes children and babies, so what exactly do you want them to do and Chinese/HK CDC has nothing to do with US recommendations and they also don't have to follow WHO guidelines either. Here is a guideline from a health sector in HK: https://www.fhs.gov.hk/english/health_info/poster/30141.html
>Face mask (including surgical masks and cloth face coverings) is not recommended for children under the age of 2 years without supervision.>For newborns and young children under 2, there would be a chance of suffocation or other health risks if face mask is not properly used. In addition, young children like to touch or pull the mask on their face which increase the chance of infection.
Baby is supervised and it's fitted just fine, so probably won't suffocate. This isn't milky. What a reach and for what?
ah stfu already. No people who aren't in HK like you know about this. >This isn't milky. What a reach and for what?
Did you miss the part where the person who posted that simply asked a question? You need to get a real job and stop whatever you think you're doing here, because it's really top autist
Imagine if dolly taylor from 2016 saw this one lugging a baby around hong kong while they both wear masks, do you think she'd believe that was her future?
I kinda expected Tom's cash to make it more of a luxury affair for Taylor (more help, specifically) but she seems to be taking on a lot of work.
Well no, probably she wouldn't have anticipated a global pandemic necessitating surgical masks for certain countries. So yes that would be a surprise, but having a baby 6 years later and looking pretty decent wouldn't be some huge shock nonnie
. I think she's living a pretty nice life for a new mom, with some help but she does stuff herself as well. Honestly she's just not that milky anymore. The fact that her lifestyle is funded by Tom's creepy (or at least formerly creepy) online magazine empire is bad, but Taylor herself just isn't milky. She's often cringey, as much as any mommy vlogger or white person in a foreign country vlogger, but that's it. I'm sure 2016 Taylor would think her baby is cute and be glad that she "bounced back" quickly, body wise.
The search for milk like >>260663
the past several months is just… so confusing.
Nope. Not nowadays anymore. AT 25 mmost women are still going to university or just started at their first job after a degree or job traning.
Couln't find a worldwide chart, but in the EU the average age is around 30 with multiple countries like Italy or Span where the average age for women to get their first child is after 30. So Taylor's age to get her first child is completely normal.
Do everyone a favor and never tell your husband anything, but 'Goodbye' if he watches your child alone. Don't remind me about milk in the fridge, or remind him he's holding the baby a little wrong, or that he overdressed her and will overheat due to it..
Anon, be realistic.
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Tom dated Cynthia Ip, aka cynbunny, whom he promoted from a blogger to BE editor, before he started dating Taylor, who was also being employed and promoted by his companies. There was a question about his prior relationships being intertwined with business. Yes, it's something netizens noticed.
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I generally don’t post in the Taylor thread, but my eyes rolled back into my head when I saw this story post about clothes that can “grow through life with you”. This outfit is less than a year old. I know that she’s gone through different body changes with her pregnancy but having some clothes that fit before and after a pregnancy would not be even slightly novel for most women
My least favorite Taylor videos have always been the ones where she’s cleaning out her outlandishly massive wardrobe that’s overflowing with every single micro trend that’s arisen in the past year, throwing away sacks of relatively new clothing. It’s such an insane spectacle of waste and reckless consumption and it really bothers me that she presents it as a normal lifestyle choice to her hundreds of thousands of followers.
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also rolling my eyes hard at the “outfit that follows you for a lifetime~” less than a year after buying it. she’s really giving sister wife/long lost duggar from the back though
Lmao, I keked, too. I mean, she does have clothes that she has worn for years, but out of all of those she chose an ill-fitted skirt that's not even a year old.
At least she doesn't pretend to be a sustainable, vegan kween.
An ugly man using his position of power and wealth to get women who are way out of his league? Wow shocking.>>261544
A golddigger who married an old ugly pedo takes wealth for granted and lives frivolously? Shocking.
You guys are really surprised by either of these things?
that office environment must have been weird. Cynthia and Taylor made a video together, even (sailor scout transformation, now deleted). But imagine you're in a position bc you're dating the boss and then he hires the next woman he's salivating over? And during/after the breakup you have to act normal?
I think there is no way Tom grew up dirt poor either, HKUST ain't cheap for a poor family and he's got pics of himself with a new Audi and getting expensive room service in France in 2006 on fb. His sister married a French guy, so she is clearly well educated too. His wasteful and entitled attitude, esp buying random shit, is that of someone who didn't worry much about money. Designer t-shirts, all the camping supplies they bought and never used, two fucking condos in expensive cities.
As bad as it sounds, but "poor" is a relative term. For today's Tom his beginnings might seem "humble", although many people could only dream of being that "poor".
Same way as Taylor was "fat" as a child. Some people just live in a bubble and view the world through a very narrow, privileged lens.
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Kinda funny cause she's more close to being in toms league than Taylor, she must have been absolutely pissed when a white blonde chick came along and snatched him, we all know a creep like Tom will always pick whoever looks closest to an underage foreign doll
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Looks closer to toms age too, don't get me wrong she's still better looking than his toad ass, but Chinese women settle for ugly rich men all the time and don't really consider it "settling" due to money being super high on their criteria.
If I saw them walking down the street I wouldn't really look twice, where with Tom and Taylor it's so obviously a sugar baby situation, you just know she's repulsed by him sexually, as she should be
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yeah though she looks cute to me (I date women) - I'm not attracted at all to Taylor, but that could be her aggressively hetero, bimbo demeanor + her gross defense of Tom's businesses. And Cynthia seems to have had an education + actual hand in running businesses (not sure how well or badly, though). lmfao I saw that Tom gave a "speech" at HKU just like Taylor. He probably got asked again and decided to let Tay do it. The more I look at old Beauty Exchange pics, I see a lot of big jobs Taylor got because of being with BE.
They met via Gary Chung, I guess. He did Taylor's makeup for some job
or maybe this tutorial, but he also was involved with BE from the beginning. picrel: https://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20120520/00315_002.html
Terrible example to use purikura photos to compare. >>261673
modeled vs oversized granny wearing farquad haired >>261652
is a better comparison. I've noticed a very clear trend where only white people in these threads are told that they're wearing ill fitting clothes or that they look too dowdy, then you got this bitch lol
for many years Taylor only posted edited bug-eye photos, but anyway I think one of the two women made that collage to promote something by BeautyExchange, I remember seeing it on FB.
Quit racesperging and being mean about her clothes, this is not her thread and based on her normal look (even in 2011), I don't think she's wearing that thing seriously or by choice. Why do you keep calling her a bitch, too? Her existence and past don't make her Taylor's "rival," the situation just says a lot about Tom and how he doesn't care about making a toxic
office for everyone. But we knew that already, toat has BE and MC people working for it. Tom must have paid or someone owed him a favor, since that dead website was mentioned as a top HK site in some 2022 list. Like hell it is. It's meant to be the Tay version of Goop, no HKers would read it or shop the nonexistent inventory.
She'll put it off until they're done with having kids.
For sure she might claim she had a procedure and downtime due to pcos or endo ala Chloe Bennet then come out skinnier in a few months with an endless stream of body check photos.
Didn't read that as racesperging at all. Gotta agree. >>261652
This is a terrible, ugly, unflattering, cut. Ugly trim. Looks like Mikan made it. >>261544
Then you have Taylor in something that fits, shows silhouette, not overly baggy and stylish (neutrals are popular AF in these countries). Anons do this a lot.
Are you stupid? I'm "just asking" the same way you "just asked" if posting full body pics is body checking.
No, normal people who just post full body pics of themselves aren't "body checking." That isn't what body checking is. People say this about Taylor because she spent the majority of her pregnancy wearing outfits, PJs, and workout wear from her pre pregnancy days and would always post either the date she got the outfit (to prove she can still fit into her pre pregnancy clothes during pregnancy), or post a side by side comparison of herself in it before pregnancy and during pregnancy to show how she can still fit into those outfits.
I can't stand the fake obtuse Tay defenders.
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Sure, Jess, and she didn't freak out when she didn't bounce back in a matter of weeks and kept whining about having nothing to wear, because shockingly most of her pre-preg clothes didn't fit her etc. Tbf, she still haven't found peace with her "new body" till this day, proved by her recent post about the difficulties of motherhood reel.(hi cow)
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imagine being hired as taylor’s camera person (but never spoken to or acknowledged, we made the mistake of buying a friend once already with assistant natalie) and your assignment is sitting on the floor with this family in their sweats while they gut a pumpkin. what a weirdly private/family thing to have a stranger over to your house for to make ~content~
No one has a camera person around almost daily to document family/private moments. Get out of Taylor's ass.
Sure, there's no milk in op's post, but there's nothing to defend either WK-chan.
Lmao. I keked more at her "busy day" that went well and she did everything on her to-do list. All of that with the nanny taking care of the baby for the majority of the day. I guess she's indeed back to her "girlboss" era, oh, sorry, it's been updated to "working mom".
It seems like that they have another bathroom for Levi (or guests). I don't remember her showing it in previous videos.
Lmao. Is it not? How about having to go to a real job so can provide for yourself and your family - not making silly videos a couple hours a day, AND taking care of a baby WITHOUT "like a family member" domestic help to do the house chores.
I'm not saying everything in Taylor's life is smooth and easy, but most of it is, let's be real. Her whining about the difficulties of motherhood is in the same category as her complaining about the difficulties of making business choices for her "brand".
Of course she doesn't have to struggle like that. No one should struggle like that.
The point is that her constant whining about her "hard life" as a "working mother" is inadequate when comparing it to what other mothers go through on a daily. She has a very sheltered and comfortable life, but likes to pretend that it's some kind of challenge and she's a hero for living it.
Who the fuck cares? It's hard for her personally and I watch her videos for her, not to imagine how a working class mother raises her kids. I don't understand what you imagine people watch Taylor's content for. It's obvious she has money, a lot of people like watch
ing rich people go about their lives.
jump rope with covid, don't forget
I bet nanny got covid too
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Lmao, talk about first world problems. Tom "canceled" Taylor's stupid (and wasteful) birthday cake tradition and asked for a simple cake. She's literally sulking in her stories lmao. "Good" news is he allowed her to order a custom one for Levi's birthday, which begs a question - who's the cake(s) really for, Taylor or Levi/Tom?
Yeah, instead of a cake costing hundreds of euros, she got one from Joël Robuchon that still cost about 70, plus whatever the customization cost. Just for them, you know.
The two huge artistic cakes during the heights of the pandemic were the absolute worst though, what is the point? Tom basically said they tasted like crap, no wonder since they let them sit for a week or longer without refrigeration. so it all got thrown away.
>>264907>no one's upset
one person posted. she didn't talk about her own birthday, iirc?
last two years I thought Tom did stuff for her. She got a designer cake one year, and he takes her to dinner. He always gives her spendy presents. dw she'll get some designer bag or jewelery or ugly sneakers
I have screenshots of the cake she bought him, will upload at home.
Then why did >>264826
say that she was upset she had to get a plain cake, but the baby could still have a fancy one?
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yeah I agree!
here's the cake she got, my internet has been sucking sry for delay
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wah wah look at filler face
she probably didn't order it in time, so it didn't arrive on time.
This L necklace is not making me think of Levi, Taylor
It was Mimei's cake. She designed and tried to order it less than a week before the party and got turned down by several bakeries. Also didn't help that she couldn't speak Japanese and wanted it to be vegan, even though Mimei isn't vegan. Then Taylor and crew took those embarrassing af birthday photos where they shoved the birthday girl to the back. >>265229
Not to mention he funds her entire lifestyle and career… and probably the one paying for these cakes.
"delicious chocolate cake from famous chef"
not a review
Point. Just another instance of Taylor blowing a molehill into a mountain. Doesn't she see that she's in the wrong here? His wish for his birthday is more important than her "creativity"?
Falls into the same category as her complaining about him using the "decorative" towels, even though she didn't bother to warn him about them being "decorative".
Like anons said, if he has control of her finances, she should be allowed to do whatever she wants with her side of it, especially if he wants her to spend money and plan everything else about the party, but not the cake. I get it's his big boy man birthday
, but giving her control and then telling her she can't do anything about it, even if she did it out of her own revenue, if fucking controlling. How do you anons completely keep bypassing this part of it?
>>265674>stop bringing up the girls
mods, just remember who this poster is. All but one of those girls' underage pics are still on his site. Several under 16.
This poster justifies pedophilia to defend their favorite cow.
>>265682>You're acting like Taylor is being abused and exploited because her husband
I didn't say that. Usually in traditional countries, the household has one finance. She isn't in America or Canada, you need to remember that. And because she's a foreigner who is living in HK, even if she's married, there might be contingencies about having a shared bank because of her being a foreigner. This would mean, yes, she would need access to the account and he would most likely be the account holder. I'm done talking about the girls. I care and there is nothing I can do, you can do, or Taylor can do. Parents need to stop giving these obvious pedo modeling companies, but for some of them it's all the money they can make and at the expense of their children. A lot of them know what they are doing and it's disgusting and not right at all, but unless something new comes up, there's no point to keep bringing these poor girls up and bringing the thread attention to it. CP gets posted to Lolcow constantly, we don't need scrotes trying seeing the mention of them ITT and then go to comb Tom's website for material just because it's legal on Tom's side.
Her promoting the website/magazine isn't the same as her knowing about these girls and every article that existed. Also her defense of it being legal there is a valid
. It's shitty, but it's valid
because their crap laws allow this. Also yeah, if one person did the article they should get shit for it. You guys know Tom probably doesn't have a single hand in this magazine besides being a shareholder and probably his title, right? Call it defending, don't care, but he probably had no involvement in it either. All around the whole situation sucks, but Taylor can't do anything about it. Also, I never, ever see anyone have this same energy when UK/US/CAN children are photographed in bikinis for magazines and only now are people questioning tv shows showing kids/teens in bathing suits either. There was more uproar about the sprinters in the Olympics having cameras at their crotch than anyone ITT actually caring about any kids involved in exploitation. This is beating a dead horse at this point. You all could literally report the website to Google to have it removed from searches and taken off the website in certain countries due to censorship, but no anons actually care
like they say they do. You have options, but let's absolutely only blame Taylor.
Her flat in Clearwater bay is easily 70 MLN HKD which with stamp duty etc would be around 900K USD. And that’s for flats without rooftop access in her estate, so I can only assume having a huge rooftop will generously raised the price. The Canadian flat is over 2 MLN Canadian dollars. They drive a large family tesla, she owns multiple high end bags including few Chanels. When she’s flying anywhere she flies business class. The anon who posted may used millions as a figure of speech but her lifestyle is not something she would afford without Tom, even as a semi popular YT. In fact without his money she wouldn’t even be this famous as he bought her not only freedom to do any content she likes but he also gave her huge push on his platforms, especially Beauty Exchange.
No way in hell she would achieve it on her own.
almost everything you've written is incorrect. Go do some research. They knew. It's not just kids in bikinis. It's talking about girls' breasts and cup sizes. There were articles advocating for dating underage girls. No, we do not blame Taylor for those articles, but we blame her for defending it.
She accused one person of targeting her. The employee who writes about underage girls a lot never got disciplined or fired. Taylor was presented to their audience like a teen until Tom snapped her up.
People reported the site. You don't have the slightest idea about anything bc you are so far up this pickme's ass.
I live in HK. Designer goods are cheaper in HK because there’s no tax on them, not the manufacturing. China has luxury goods tax and they are more expensive there, that’s why prior to Covid you had mainlanders visiting SAR for cheaper luxury products.
You two/that one WK try to paint it like Taylor would live same lifestyle without Tom and like anyone can afford it. As I said, the two properties they own are already few millions USD (2.18 mln CAD and more than 70 mln HKD), all her luxury purses, their clothing, jewelry she has - engagement ring itself was ridiculously expensive, so is the wedding band. Not counting Cartier and Tiffany bracelets. Even their kid wears Burberry that he will outgrow in a month.
The median household income in Hong Kong dropped to $27,100 - that’s like 3500 USD. While Taylor and Tom go for omakase for 5000 HKD per person. I’m sure she as a model would earn that much. And she’s so different from all the white models in HK I’m sure without Tom’s help she would be able to raise in her fame. Beauty exchange owned by Tom - biggest website for women in HK - had nothing to do with it, nothing at all.
She wouldn’t. She would live OK lifestyle but nothing remotely close to this. She herself said she lived in a shared model apartment. She haven’t finished any school. Without Tom’s help she wouldn’t be this popular to upgrade her living from model house. If he didn’t help her out she wouldn’t be the living doll dancing in front of Tokyo tower - he even helped her to move to Tokyo agency. Without his financial support she couldn’t be choosy about the jobs she wants to take as a model. Without his help and beauty exchange she wouldn’t be popular in HK and thus wouldn’t get said sponsorships.
How all that would be possible for Taylor without him? She’s pretty but there’s thousands of white models in HK, she didn’t have any quality that would make her stand. It was BE promotion that put her name out there. Otherwise she would still be doing gigs for 68 clothing or instant pasta like she did prior to being with him.
NTA but this is completely untrue. Her work as a model was sporadically mid and low paying at best. Only when it was secretly backed by Tom and he was funding her wardrobe and lifestyle did anything remotely designer enter her life.
She was in HK to secure the bag and he was always her best option. If she truly would have been living it up without Tom, she would have secured a higher net worth man who isn't a complete toad.
No, she'd still have to share an apartment with other models. She didn't regularly work and models don't earn as much as you think. Not only that, Tom was not only responsible for getting her work, but also largely responsible for how her youtube channel was able to grow. She had a team and he covered costs of travel, hotel stays, outfits, fake apartment, fancy meals, beauty projects, cosmetic procedures, ingredients and supplies for her cooking and diy videos and other content. He's responsible for almost all of her Japan content and she would've have moved there if it wasn't for him. Don't forget she now has a kid she'd have to pay for.
samefag>>265819>she would've have moved there if it wasn't for him.
have moved there if it wasn't for him.
100%. The one anon insisting she's a millionaire model despite being on the older end of modelling age when she met Tom is delusional and needs to stop.
He had his whole team supporting her because she couldn't be assed to learn the language or do work that didn't fit the outdated living doll aesthetic she was chasing at the time. Tom even paid for the fillers she got that a wk insisted was allergies and totally not the fuckup of a doctor who doesn't know how to work with her bone structure.
NTA, but I said it before: before Tom she was just another white model in HK doing instant pasta commercials or clothing shows. She wasn’t even remotely as popular as you think she was. Her fan base started growing when they started dating but he wasn’t officially in the picture. Then together they moved to Japan where she started doing full dolly content in fake room in the apartment he rented for them and paid for. He helped her get to agency in Japan, found people to help her to get jobs without speaking Japanese. In meantime he was promoting her on BE, organized “fan meetings” in HK, paid for trips to Europe which she used as her content.
Now it’s your turn. Why you think she would be this popular without his backing? Yeah, she would probably return to Canada and work for her family as she has no formal education, but I doubt she could make any interesting content without financial backing from Tom and the fact that she is living in Asia which is exotic and interesting for her audience.
I thought she started to get popular with a very niche crowd back when she had a column in that teen fashion mag?
White foreign girls are a dime a dozen though in the Asian market. Taylor isn't some rare unknown Russian backwoods beauty, but she does have a pretty enough face that works well with editorial stuff.
You guys keep ignoring how the influencer space became like it is. Even without Tom, Taylor was using YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.. She was already in the space, popular from the dolly modeling and makeup videos. She wouldn't have gone away and probably could have picked up her own sponsors because of it. She most likely would've been fine without Tom. Surprising, I think she has gotten in less trouble because of Tom. I don't think she would've been a make-up influencer, but probably a haul influencer and that's been popular in the last 10 years and still considering fast fashion. Probably start her own brand or something and then just exist. You don't need much financial backing to get free clothes and stuff from companies if you are just making hail videos. I could also see her trying to travel, probably become a Jvlogger since she used to hang with Sharla and everyone in that space seems fine off and have money to travel constantly.
And sage your shit.
You keep ignoring the fact she was in HK - it’s not a typical market. There’s a saying 新屎坑 三日香 - new sh*t hole smells good for three days and that’s the span of attention things have in HK. Just because she’s in news one day doesn’t mean she is big. HK gets a lot of random news like girl crawling on the side of the building trying to leave her room or people filming gay couple who had sex and forgot to turn off the lights. It gets on the news and then no one remembers it. Her biggest news was her cosplay on otaku event. Wow, definitely career changing moment.
Also, keep in mind Hadid had their family backing up them, just like Taylor had with Tom. If you want to believe she would make it as big on her own, then do so. Knowing HK’s environment and reality I can say without Tom’s help she wouldn’t be even remotely popular comparing to any local KOL.(learn2sage)
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zipper? no. That was via Tom, too.
A good comparison for Taylor is looking at Elyse Sewell from ANTM, who had a successful career in HK and other Asian countries. Her LJ is still up. She was a bona fide model, tall, thin, interesting bone structure - and they were already telling her she was too old and to lose weight in Japan (at age 20-21).
It's a little bit before Taylor's time in HK but not that much earlier. Do you imagine Princess Tay went to castings like these below? I highly doubt it, she was already dating Tom in 2013 and in one of those Apple Daily features, she said her boyfriend (prior to Tom) was Asian and in the financial sector.https://elysesewell.livejournal.com/5450.html
(Japanese agency calls a rail-thin 5'10" woman fat)https://elysesewell.livejournal.com/314.html
(horrible Japan castings with teenagers)https://elysesewell.livejournal.com/93215.html
(ice skating casting)https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/27795924.html
(if you're finding these awful pictures of her everywhere, see Elyse's comment: >Barf, fuck that! I even told my agency I thought I should be getting paid more for that job, and now those pics are fucking everywhere and hideous.
>>265913>She was an influencer before Tom too and with a following>>265939>her early time on the internet would be enough for her to keep gaining followers
Before Tom, she wasn't an influencer at all. She would post short fetus filtered Kota-lookalike clips and that's it. Anything notable she did is traced back to his company, including him paying for her "dolly" aesthetic which was dead on arrival. She shifted gears to copy top youtubers, while behind the scenes Tom paid youtube thousands monthly to ensure her videos were promoted and showing up as recommendations. What you're seeing is the result of a ton of Tom's money and not Taylor's influence.>>265927
Taylor wasn't on those channels before Tom. He shot all of her videos that weren't on a tripod, paid for the apartments she was shooting in, and funded the content in them including the "dolly" stuff. Designer brands want to seem aspirational, and only after she showed off having a more luxury life was Tom's company able to land her influencer work with those brands.
>Probably start her own brand
She literally did that with her overpriced dropship taobao and goop copy pasta. Even with Tom's massive backing it still went nowhere because she has no real sense of style and her fans are mostly poorfags living vicariously through her, kek.
She spent years in Japan yet still couldn't figure out how to take the subway. Do you honestly think she would've been able to secure her own sponsors and run her own businesses?>>265920
Really, nothing more needs to be said. What's with all the WKs in /w/?
toat never fails to make me laugh. She even talked about "to a T" meaning a perfect fit. Which no one-size clothing is going to have. (https://toat.com/pages/about
) Then the site and IG went completely dead. Guess it was too much work to write vapid "articles" to keep up the facade when the clothing wasn't selling. toat is just an embarrassingly narcissistic shrine to Taylor.
I think it is very telling that there are virtually no traces of actual customers wearing the clothing. She paid a model in Canada to promote the clothes and gave away stuff to Sharla. That's… it. I think I saw one review total.
It's also illegal to sell knock-offs, which she was doing.
Oh no, how dare you?! She's working hard night and day right now, learning new things and experimenting while she designs her new knock-off collection. And the lack of content and production was because of COVID and maternity leave and… and the one-size-fits-all is because she's a small, handmade business that can't make too many (i.e. more than one) sizes. /s
P.S. Watch her churn out a vlog about her working hard after reading all of this lazy princess talk lol
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ok, I found it. She had her own blog section in the Hong Kong version of Vivi magazine. She actually had a nice sense of personal style back then and should have stuck with it.
Tom paid for her flights, the gifts for her friends and their home in Tokyo.
The father made that joke to prove he wasn't paying for her lifestyle, because even though he runs a dealership he can't afford to bankroll what she was doing. At that time Taylor was still hiding elbowsan's existence and pretending she was on her own. It's only when Tom's face got leaked that the threads here exploded.
Her family is working middle class, they never went to private schools or are part of society. Modular homes built on low cost land in Oakville is peanuts compared to houses in the actual city. Nothing wrong with it but they aren't as well off as you might think.
>>265927>She most likely would've been fine without Tom
I think she would've been too, but I think Tom was the worst thing to happen to her for the sake of her independence or having a normal 20 something year old life. Pre-japan/tom she had a pretty normal life - studying nutrition at hk uni, normal apartment, etc. I don't think there were other youtubers like her in HK so i think she would've done well on youtube and modeling.
BUT then post-tom, she got so spoiled she didn't even know how to use japanese public transportation lmao. And then later completely lacking the self-awareness that she's the top 1% and her whole 'girl boss' sounds retarded because she easily gives up and moves onto new business/career endeavors funded by tom. Never experiencing loss or hardship like a normie. She hasn't touched grass since she was like 22 or 23 kek
Elyse is old news and she used to be so condescending in her blog. Not even her close (!) friends from ANTP was spared and she spoke out later about it
Elyse had fans because she found some success in east Asia but if you read her blog she has an attitude and makes snarky remarks about other models in auditions
she was an actual north american model chronicling her career in HK. I don't give a crap about Adrienne, who is kind of a hot mess. All you have is A's word against E's, so what.
She is old news but left HK just as Taylor arrived in 2010. This is what I am talking about. Her experience in HK and Japan is not irrelevant to what a normal model would have gone through in 2010. She was very candid about the standards and procedures, what model apartments were like, how her agencies were, the fact that she was living with 13 and 14yo models and called old/fat.
Tbh modeling market in Japan is still pretty much the same as underage Russian girls still travel here for modeling work, live in questionable conditions in tiny apartments and model for bridal or lingerie which should be reserved for at least women in their twenties.
But that’s not an industry secret. Everyone knows that. A quick walk in Omotesando and you’ll see a bunch of underage girls being transported in company car to their next audition.
That doesn’t justify Elyse’s condescending attitude against other models who auditioned with her tho. She made a mockery of many Russian girls and even an American girl if you prioritize “actual North American models” in East Asia…
ok. which ones?>>266194
they officially started in 2013 but I am sure there was something earlier, probably overlapping with Taylor's other bf. I can't prove it though. She said in this video that they first made contact in 2012: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cs411H7fe/
(can't find a good spot to screenshot, but it starts around 0:45). She said she had already fallen in love with his personality before they even met in person lmao. Sure.
Ain't denying her having an existence, but she would not have a large following without assistance. No 500k IG following nor over 1mil youtube. She probably would have never moved to Japan either since that was with Tom's money. In Japan, she met Sharla and the other Jvloggers and used them to grow her following even more. She really wasn't that big or known in 2012-2013. She wasn't even a popular "living doll" outside of 1-2 article mentions from China… Doesn't even pop up much in any "human doll, human barbie, living doll" searches. All you see is Valaria Lukyanova, Kotakoti, Anastasia, Venus, Angelica Kenova, Justin Jedlica and PixieFox. ( But if you click a Kota pic, she has one or two pics that popup in the pic-related section ). Again, she'd likely have a similar following base too that of Kota's (100k ) and a slowly dying modelling career, as the living doll trend died in 2015 and she was past her prime (25). She'd have a humble modelling career as a catalog model and a slow growth to her followers. Girl has the personality and creativity of a wet paper towel.
Did you miss the part where I said she has zero personality or creativity? She wasn't popular in any of the trends she clung to, anon. Her living doll stunt didn't blow up until after Tom got her an apartment in Japan, expensive lolita fashion, modelling connections, and Japanese tutors and became her living tripod. She even got god-awful facial fillers at that time. Before that ( before Tom) nobody really knew her name, and she was never even mentioned globally like other dolly girls.
I didn't say she'd be entirely irrelevant or unpopular but would have a slow and very basic following count of around 100k on IG. Youtube would be even more of a flopper if she didn't develop some personality/creativity(she still doesn't have any to this day). Her old YT content was crappy tutorials and a voice-over done in a monotone voice.
NTA but it seems you're struggling to realize Taylor isn't anything without Tom's money. It's also his money and company that slowly built her audience and expanded her reach over many years.
Tell us one notable thing about Taylor that isn't related to Tom's money that would make her popular and relevant. Even for a cow she's boring and niche.
some babies just have larger heads. If there was reason for concern, he would have been checked for it already. >>266320>>her penny wise forehead
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Couldn’t help but to notice how much weight Tom has put on. He doesn’t have the excuse of getting pregnant, but man has he let himself go. The hair doesn’t do him any favours either.
That's sympathy weight, you hater. /s
For se reason he only gained in sympthay but seems to have no plans to lose it like his wife.
wooo look at her YT in April 2013
I just see Tom-promoted BE content and getting ready for her move to Japan. She and Tom met in 2012. https://web.archive.org/web/20130422114058/https://www.youtube.com/user/taylorr1488
(mods: can't really effectively screenshot what I'm talking about, since it's like multiple things? But isn't an archive link helpful?)
So nah she didn't have shit before him. All those views come from the videos BE promoted. If she had gotten them organically, people would have clicked on the modeling videos, you know, the ones with 800 views at the bottom.(decade-old milk)
This is an imageboard and all this is hypothetical. You guys need to calm down about what could have been and being so pissed off about anons discussing it. This has been such a derail because>nuh uh she would've never been good on her own
Let anons discuss Taylor and Tom. No1currs about your massive vendetta and shutdown of the topic. We get it, she has Tom's money now. We are talking about what-ifs he she never had.
No one said she didn't have a life before Tom. Her #1 fan here is claiming she could've lived very comfortably without Tom's help, but there's nothing to suggest that's true. Even her youtube success has been through Tom. She might've had some followers pre-Tom, but not enough views and sponsors to live well or even on her own. The whole point of this discussion was the fact that she's complaining about Tom's birthday cake when it's Tom's birthday and his money, and she's not some victim
being exploited like her WK here makes her out to be, and ironically, some of Tom's money has actually come from exploiting minors, which makes the poor Taylor argument even more stupid.
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i was looking for something and found that ONTD article that was basically info collected from the Farms. clicked on one of the links and realized that Tom and Taylor were in a relationship when MenClub drew attention to an article about Taylor's (and other models') upskirt photos. i'm not sure if the article blurred them or not, but i bet a lot of men jumped onto hk forum sites to get the unblurred ones.
If anyone decided to publicize upskirt photos of me, i would immediately leave that person. How she stayed after that, i have no idea. And no it doesn't matter if Tom himself wrote the post or not, Taylor is named in the text of the post…. i know not every woman is the same, but how do you endure that kind of disrespect if the event was so traumatic for you (as she herself stated it was)?
stop pretending like you speak for a majority here when you samefag constantly
>take a xanax
calm down, take your meds, get help, touch grass reee
Where are they? Zero people have agreed with your samefagging on the false narrative you keep pushing with unrelated points and zero proof.
She had no views on her dolly videos until Tom started paying for them to get amplified. It has nothing to do with cable when most her fans and viewers are ESL SEA weebs who don't have it anyway but gj trying to connect unrelated points again.
No one had been samefagging. The entire thread isn't just 2 people.
Also proof he paid for promos? Proofhe paid for her plane ticket to China even lol
Different anon, I don't know about the promo crap, but I do know it was heavily speculated about the Europe trips. The first-class flight, 5-star hotels, 10k shopping sprees and luxurious cafes or restaurants coupled with concert tickets just seemed out of Taylor's financial reach. She wasn't big on Youtube back in 2013/2014 and a catalog model's pay could not cover such expenses.
I think it's pretty obvious what was covered by who as Taylor always shopped at cheap af places on her own credit card. Fast fashion is cheap and where Taylor frequented, and expensive Chanel or luois Vuitton was either mentioned as a gift and/or Tom was with her buying it. As for current right now Taylor, I think she could afford it on her own… Just not back then. TBH I think Tom covered most heavy expenses and some until Taylor got her footing and was financially well off on her own.
This, seriously. It's like the weird nerds and Elon meme but with a niche cow who is a big nothing without her husband's money.>>266592
Wk-chan what do you get out of derailing the thread?
It's not about what makes sense, it's about what's true. Anons are saying he was important from the moment she moved to HK which I highly doubt. This completely ignores the possibility that she was getting popular there on her own without him. The fact that he apparently owned everything she was ever featured in is such a reach, anons didn't even back up information about >>266079
him apparently also owning Vivi magazine.
I'm all for saying she couldn't have gotten anywhere without him if it weren't for the fact that that's not entirely true. Multiple anons have stated that when she moved to HK, being one of the very few vloggers who were white and modeling there at the time, that she started to become interesting. The same way other vloggers did the same thing in Japan. It being HK doesn't negate that it happened to her too but somewhere else. I think over time, with publicity, Tom took interest in her, but to say that he paid for everything from the get-go seems such a reach and just an overblown vendetta
I noticed that cardigan too. Comfy, but looks surprisingly cheap and is a randomly thrown together outfit. I'd wear that kind of cardigan on a lazy day with jeans and t-shirt.
Doesn't really go with the shoes and skirt.
He is posting on his IG back in 2019 how they just launched online version of Vivi HK that he already owned in print.
She wasn’t getting popular without him, that’s the thing. She was mentioned here and there but not more than other white models. OK, she was a white vlogger in HK but with not big reach, HK is not popular place to be interested so most of people outside of HK based on probability wouldn’t notice her. Japanese and Korean vloggers for sure, but HK is relatively small and the coverage options are limited.
In fact her popularity didn’t grow until she moved with Tom to Japan - which he sponsored. Prior to him she only made commercials for instant pasta, underwear store, some shots for magazine that no one cared about. He met her during one of those shots which she confirmed, they connected and somehow from that point her promotion on beauty exchange, men’s club etc began and she became more recognized in HK.
No one says he's been sponsoring her since she landed in HK, wtf. Anons are saying she was a mediocre model with miserable following and started to take off only after he employed his connections and started giving her more visible platforms and gigs. Whichever anon said 100s of views on Youtube were a big deal back then, sure, but no one made a carrier out of it.
There's no "possibility" she was successful before him because that's obviously not true. She could afford to live comfortably, sure, but having a massive following and living in luxury is a bigass stretch.
The wks are pretending to have no idea how much things cost and how little money Taylor has ever made on her own in her whole life because she barely worked.
If it was easy to make money doing what Taylor did, every tard would be doing it. Instead the sad reality is more like this >>265774
for the weebs who have delusions about being a white girl in asia.
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here's the Mercer index for 2010. HK is #8 most expensive in the world. https://www.cnbc.com/2010/06/29/The-Worlds-Most-Expensive-Places-To-Live-2010.html
Stop lying to defend your waifu
Just ignore that one wk who pretends they can't do a quick google and pretends "anons" agree with them. They don't realize this isn't a fansite.
Even Taylor talked how she was literally living in shared apartment squalor until Tom came into the picture. It's just that she hid the truth about Tom being her partner for so long in hopes of looking successful.
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No milk, but is this a mother thing?
Because I think watching toddlers eat with all the drool and food smeared over their hands and faces is pretty much the most unsightly thing about toddlers after dirty diapers.
Maybe she's happy because her baby can eat food and chew it. As a new mom it's important since it's a proof he is healthy. At this stage a lot of babies start with food allergies, digestive problems.. Or simply start becoming picky eaters.
No one likes a baby drooling all over the place.(learn2sage)
video of the act here https://emalm.com/?v=K7wAX
don't come at me, it's late and i don't have time to figure out video embedding rn. uploaded it to an anon vid site
Same. Omg, I don't know what I was expecting, but it was worse than that. Put trigger warning
on gross things like that or smt. Jesus. Some thing should never be posted online. This is one of those things. Ew.
This does not look like a YouTube link. Anon's, even without the embed, do not click. Youtube links look like this: https:/ /youtu.be/CODEFORVIDEO
Wait for anon to learn2embed
How can you tell his weight gain based on those pictures? His face just got uglier and fatter. He somehow aged a bunch in 2 years. His body looks the same.
Also, Taylor's face is the exact same in all three. that is some top model skill!
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lol okay taylor, makes sense. how could a child possibly learn their native language without nanny? as long as they’re married these two are never leaving HK
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Oh, look, her highness finally bought bigger jeans. Took her long enough lmao. I love how she always says she does not care about her body, but every time she mentions it, she stresses that she's "appreciative" and "chill" with it NOW. I mean, I thought you were over it since day one…
If i come from a developed democratic country i will not want to stay in a country where i can’t speak the language, expensive and being taken by ccp and make my child grow there unless coming from
Some shithole then you have no better option.
Taylor’s in for a rude awakening whenever she does move back though. Taylor’s entire worldview of “Canada” is downtown Toronto and the hick town her family lives in a couple hours down the highway (more like 3-4 hours now with the urban exodus to Niagara.) Ontario’s kind of an overpriced shithole to live in in a post-covid world that she’s totally oblivious to.
Everything besides the money that makes Taylor think she’s special means jack in Canada anyway. There’s no “career” in it. No one cares about the content of some white 35 year old has-been catalog model from Grimsby with a high school education. Her “international couple” schtick is tacky and borderline racist and wouldn’t last a minute over here without people calling her out on it.
While I don't think she necessarily ISN'T close to her family, I do think she romanticizes the idea of family a ton. She's always waxing lyrical about cooking her grandma's recipes, crying on FaceTime with her family, and her vlogs back home made it look like she gets on well with her siblings. I don't think she loves the reality of her family - because otherwise why would she live so far from them and visit so seldom, even pre-COVID.
I think she just really loves the idea of a big family, the aesthetic of having everyone around, cooking and wearing matching clothes. She's someone who is far more interested in how things look in pictures than how they really are in reality.
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No shit, Sherlock, everything changes. But basically this thumbnail shows everything is still the same.
Look at my plasticky face and tell me I am so beautiful, not a day over 21, so wholesome, so perfect! Is this about my son? You'd never know from the thumbnail!! It's all about me.
Rosie was bought from a Chinese puppy farm selling horribly disfigured teacup poodles. Because we have money to burn, let's get her an unnecessary DNA test.
double post but
lmao the random arrow pointing at Tom. Did Taylor find out he's not Rosie's father? wtf
Yep, pretty much this. They realized that once they have a baby they have to talk about something more than which hotel they'd do a staycation at. And it's hard work
, people. The baby is crying and we have responsibilities. wow.
It's not a convo about her talent. It freaks me out that she looks identical in all three pictures.
I made a snarky comment. Some anons didn't get the snark. And the world keeps on turning.
To show the "horrendous" condition her body was in and to fish for compliments on her "hard work" getting to her current body.
But I agree, that had nothing to do with the question, OP talked about 1 year postpartum, not 1 week.
Who? Sorry other anons want proof before pretending there's someone living there 24/7. I've had nannies and they'd only actually come like 3 times a week. Nannies aren't a big deal, especially in a country where it's expected, even in the poor communities [God forbid you hear about that since you seem to think this is only a rich person
thing]. No different if a parent or friend was helping out. Calling people whiteknights because you don't agree with them sure shows the thought processes you have.
No one said the domestic helper is there 24/7, stop playing dumb. But she is indeed there most of the day - from morning till evening. The only time Taylor has to handle the kid without help is the night (when he's sleeping) and early mornings, that's it.
P. S. If you don't wanna be taken as a WK, stop justifying her every move and nitpicking and exaggerating comments or taking them completely out of context to prove a point.
>>268778>No different if a parent or friend was helping out.
Um, parents and friends don't get paid, it's not their job to be there when my (nonexistent) baby wakes up or to clean my (existent) dog's poop. That's an insane comparison to make. Stop trying to make a fight about everything. If it's normal even in "poor communities," then why did Carol have to do her whole confinement herself? Was she poorer than poor? >>268806
hey, learn reading comprehension, you have misconstrued not just what I wrote but the tone of it, because you want to sperge again.
I asked why Carol had to cook and take care of HERSELF during confinement, with no help from anyone (bc she could not afford it). This was stated in a video you probably didn't even watch. Watching the content is too much to ask of such a low-grade derailer, I guess. So is the English-speaking Carol just that poor? I mean, wow if so, she must have really turned her whole economic life around, learned English, took all those classes, and gotten all those certifications, all since she gave birth, and she doesn't look very old.
Carol is an adult. No one called Carol poor. They said even poor people have helpers for babies the same way Taylor did for her pregnancy and that it's not just some rich person gimmick because they are lazy. This forced pity on to Carol is stupid, it's been months. Anons really, really hate the idea that nannies and anyone helping within a household that isn't direct family. It's so weird. >>268938
I'm not screeching about it. I'm asking if anons can prove, according to them, that they are there 24/7. I'm saying they might not even be there 24/7 and even agreed it's not a big deal due to it being so normalized in China and HK and multiple other countries. You have celebrities in China using assistants just to hold a phone or change someone's shoes. Taylor at least seems to pay them and she treats them nice, also from the looks of it, which is more than I can say for a lot of workers. However, anons will say she's overworked and probably not taken care of for some reason, but nothing to back it up.
Sorry I don't think going straight to extremes makes much sense. We see bits of her life and we don't even know if things she posts is daily or pre-filmed/shot. The only person I recall seeing in her stories 'daily' at one point was Carol after birth. I personally don't care if she has housekeepers 24/7 or a nanny 24/7. Like other anons have said >>268938
it's not out of the ordinary, especially if you can afford it, but I haven't see anyone around like Carol was. If someone was, anons would've been posting it too, not just complaining every few weeks with the sight of someone, not even knowing if it's the same person from before. No one is saying she doesn't have any help. Just don't think it makes sense to say it's just like Carol again when it clearly isn't, but anons are passing it off like it's true. Can we start logging these appearances then? Lets keep track of this 24/7 domestic helper so we can make sure Taylor does nothing in her life.
>>269021>you said poor people have nannies and helpers and fuck knows what else in Asia. So normal! even for poors
I've never heard of people having nannies and helpers being commonplace in asia or anywhere except for the upper middle class.
I think Taylor needs a nanny since she is quite immature and has her influencer business to run and a lifestyle to maintain (e.g. nobody wants to watch struggle content), but it isn't commonplace to have nannies, cooks, cleaners, assistants etc despite what wk-chan wants us to believe.
NTA, but there are approximately 400 000 (based on 2019 numbers) foreign domestic helpers in HK which makes up 5% of HK population. Their salary is now around 5K HKD on average, to hire one she needs to be provided with accommodation and food - outside of her salary. They work 6 days a week with one day off and public holidays off.
I don’t think that people meant poor as in living in cage homes poor. But if a woman earns 15k HKD they would still hire a FDH to take care of the kids after school, cook, clean etc. because then enables her to go to work and have that extra 10K for the family budget.
You need to keep in mind FDH is not a pui yuet - pui yuet doesn’t do cleaning etc, she purely takes care of the mother and child with TCM, looking after the baby at night so mother can rest better etc.
Salary of a helper is 5K HKD on average, pui yuet is easily over 25K, depending on experience and time pui yuet has to spent at your home it can easily go over 40K.
By the fact that there’s many more FDH than just regular nannies (400k vs 10k) the probability of her having a living-in nanny (FDH must be provided with accommodation to be hired) is much greater, but no one can really confirm unless she admits it. Just like she admitted with pui yuet after our speculations here.
Having a helper in HK is not just a rich people thing, with 5 days working week being a job benefit (I kid you not, next to like gym membership you will see “5 days working week” in job listings), irregular hours often overlapping with kids school hours etc. many people who can’t count on grandparents will decide to hire FDH because at the end of the day they will still be bringing more money home. Many apartments often come with a small room for the helper already (not the newer apartments tho, they don’t even have a proper kitchen now).
It’s just very common and part of a local living style that I’m not judging Taylor for having help.
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>Since 2003, all foreign domestic helpers are required by law to be live-in.
from here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_domestic_helpers_in_Hong_Kong#:~:text=Comprising%20five%20percent%20of%20Hong,domestic%20helpers%20in%20the%20territory
She says she employs a "helper." Ergo, the helper is living in the residence. >>269037
Why be disingenuous and write all these paragraphs to say that Taylor has to admit her nanny is a live-in helper? You know she is, that's required by law. 5k HKD is the appx minimum salary required by law, not an average.
If you want to know the truth about HK "helpers" and how they are generally treated like shit by everyone, read the wikipedia article and its sources.
“The average salary of foreign domestic workers in Hong Kong has reached HK$5,144, an increase of 2.6 percent from a year ago”. Minimum is below that.
I don’t know why you’re barking at me, I’m one of those thinking she has a living in domestic helper, but that one WK keeps saying there’s no evidence and thus I said until Taylor admits it I can’t provide them with the evidence aside of probability of that happening taking into consideration HK’s reality.
I don’t need to read about FDH in HK, I live in HK, I know the reality of it. I saw helpers tucked into kitchen at children’s birthday party. Or a “room” that was just a kitchen storage with bed. And her employer said “There’s even a window and a fan, and she has her own bathroom”. Which is a guest bathroom. Not everyone is like this, I also know families who pay for their helper’s airplane tickets and pay them full months salary when they are off. But especially local employers tend to abuse their power towards FDH.(derailing)
It's not milky when it's common where she is. It's such a boring take, especially when they aren't even being abusive
either. Anons think Taylor having a nanny and posting online at the same time means she's a bad mom and that's what they call 'milk'. Jesus.
Anons saying Taylor is an absent mom is basically saying the same thing. "She doesn't care for the kid, the nanny does, Taylor just uses the kid for photos" is literally what anons have been trying to peddle.>>269318
It is normal over there. Get over it. your racism regarding it because it's a different society is showing.
having an issue with glorified slavery of foreign women isn't racism, anon. And yeah, I have an issue with rich exploiting poor women, don't you?
no one said she is a bad mom. Stop trying to infight. Her IG is open for your fawning bootlicking.
more than one anon posted about this issue, but I at least am done taking your fucked up bait.>>269419
I live in Europe, not that it matters, and you are the one bringing race into it.
They aren't the forefront of her channel. Does she need to video any drivers she has too because they are secret
too because no way she walks all the time. You guys act like she's hiding when it's more like its not important.
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The reason Taylor's not in her usual insane Christmas spirit is because she's currently in Canada. She flew there asap after hearing of her Nana's declining health to say her goodbyes. She posted a few stories explaining the situation but I'm too dumb to save and upload them. Maybe someone else could do that.
yes, agreed. I have been dreading this bc we barely knew anything about her grandfather but that was like a giant cryfest for months. She is so much closer to her Nana. For her own sake, I hope she finally gets therapy instead of just talking about one session she had and buying self-help books.
I'm not at all being mean here, my mother died last year in her late 50s and it destroyed me. I still cry all the time but I can't imagine broadcasting something like that to people who do not know me or my family for views. And I started seeing a great therapist eventually, that helped a lot as my grief was making it hard to work or see people
you successfully got the WK to ree about hate, congrats. stfu, people don't always look crying and sad when talking about a sad thing. She is wearing normal makeup, and iirc she even did a full face of makeup for her birth, so why would she be there without makeup? (also nana wouldn't recognize her without it probably.)
She looks grateful to have gotten there in time. Just leave it, there's nothing right now, and I think she's ridiculous 95% of the time.
NTA, but what a fucking nitpick. She's not jumping around and havibg a good time. She's still posting online. She's still around Tom and the baby before leaving. She's still in public as she's leaving.
She has to pretend to smile. Also, not every family member is going to get sobbed over, even for Taylor. It might not even hit her until after ffs. Anons have a weird timetable of how humans should act at certain times and it's so retarded to argue about it.
I was trying to avoid weird dismissive commentary (like >>270277
) about "anons" being "retarded" and poor Taylor and Taylor does nothing wrong and "anons" are all jealous …
BUT also she's not doing anything wrong right now so just leave it.
>>270463>stop acting like a full-blown retard for one single day
You're throwing a tantrum.>>270462
And what exactly is the history with her Nana? I'm basing this on the fact that she doesn't live in CAN, doesn't visit often, and anons like to say she doesn't interact with her family enough because it's always through video/phone calls. I bet that's mostly towards her parents and not really extended family outside of siblings too. No one is lecturing. You just don't know how to have a discussion.
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Is it just me or do you see panic in Tom's eyes that Taylor suddenly upped and left? I'm actually really glad Taylor has finally visited back home even if in sad circumstances, I think it was much needed(nitpicking)
>>270569>She's not sobbing, sorry there's not better milk for you or something, anon.
No one said this is milk except one shithead.>Anons said she shouldn't do tat type of broadcasting this time, but if she isn't then she doesn't care and is just vapid in what she does post.
her. nana. is. still. alive. And her grandfather was suddenly the focus of a ton of crying thumbnails and yeah it came across as tonedeaf and like a way to get views. Sorry that's an opinion some people had. Doesn't make Taylor evil nor is she the first person to have done that. But it came across as weird because she never talked about her grandfather much or showed himthen suddenly she couldn't work for months after he died at an old age.>Where is the milk that isn't anons just personal feelings?
There is no milk.>When she vlogs about it or talks about it, is it suddenly going to be "forced and only for veiws" too because she didn't broadcast it enough prior to a video?
No, we know she is close to her Nana. We dread she will do that instead of getting the therapy she needs. And god yes she needs therapy.>What exactly are anons trying to find here?
your off button.
oh absolutely. that's why he said, "I got this." What he meant was, "I got you someone to handle this." He's pretty clueless so I'm glad they have a full-time nanny. less probability of him fucking up and hurting the kid.
no offense to anyone saying the kid is cute (ofc he is), but I always find that weird on lc. If the kid happened to look like a potato, would that be something tragic to the nonnies here? A lot of toddlers and even older kids are uggo and grow out of it, and even if they don't, a lot of ugly adults are amazing people. I guess I don't get how a kid's looks are relevant unless they look abused or neglected.
Not to be a WK, but that’s the peak galleria at the Victoria Peak, right next to it there are few easy walking trails. Most likely he just went there for a walk (it’s not even a hike, just a flat road that goes in circle) that takes like 45 minutes.
But I also believe the helper does most of the work, he just does the fun stuff.
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RIP nana i always thought they had a cute relationship
rest in peace, woman i have never met
sage your shit, anon. This isn't milk.
Hi! Flight post here >>270017
was unsaged. Non-milk posts are unsaged, as per the site rules. No one said this was milk.
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wish they wouldn’t record in a big box toy store where children are walking right through their shots and parents are staring directly at the camera
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learn to sage
Yeah, she says "no biting" to Rosie. I'm sure this is more or less normal for animals adjusting to kids, but she's dumb for posting it online. She's going to get a lot of nasty comments over this, it's a hot topic like the breastfeeding one. Sometimes I think she wants the mean comments so she can react and get clicks on her "defense" posts. I doubt Rosie's two teeth can injure the kid, but it's still one of those moments you probably don't want online forever. And yeah, Rosie should be better trained or she should avoid putting the dog and kid in situations where jealousy could break out.
I've performed a ritual in the hopes of warding off the reeing dog sperg.
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it’s Taylor’s birthday so Tom orders a cake with a very custom, detailed, specific version of himself, his wife’s dog, and his baby held by an oversized, generic doll-faced Sailor Moon. NOTHING about the Sailor Moon figure has anything to do with Taylor in looks, interests, anything. of all her love for fashion, costumes, and DIYs or her literal (passing) career as a youtuber could make an amazing homage cake! but no, Tom went with a giant anime school girl (aged 15 lol) and inserted himself taking an upskirt photo. happy 34th birthday, Tay…
She recently was really excited to get a sailor moon phone case at the casetify? event, so she might like sailor moon despite never really talking about it. Also she has a very old video doing a sailor moon hairstyle (you can really see her pre-filler jawline in it and it looks so much better than now).
Just saying this for reference, I also think the cake is stupid and there’s more to Taylor than this. But as a couple they love boiling each other down to single personality traits, it’s because their whole relationship is very surface-level. That and the fact that Tom still obviously wants a kaweewee 16 year old for a wife
Tbf, it's hard to find a weeb her age who is not a Sailor Moon fan. It's kinda nice of him to make her look like a boss, while he's on the sideline, despite the questionable position for taking a photo/filming (?).
Watch sulk again because he didn't let her get him a "creative" cake, too Kek I bet we'll get it soon
You sound unhinged to think this is an upskirt attempt by Tom wishing Taylor was fictional Sailor Moon age.
Listen to yourself.
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It's not even a camera, anon is retarded
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I love how a moid knows his place
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I actually like the cake for this reason kek
Gonna post some more of these stories here because I think they express the Tom Taylor dynamic quite well
(inb4 not milk, this is saged)
1. The baby seems to have missed Tom's gene pool and looks a lot like Taylor imo
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Carol seems to come back every so often?
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Actual Tom and Taylor vs the cake
you really need to calm down, you are such a rabid little creature. Anon is entitled to an opinion and I too would be creeped out by being reimagined as a schoolgirl like this.
On that note, I am sure Taylor has probably never even watched Sailor Moon. It's part of the larp. She did that hair tutorial to try to appeal to weebs like Kotex did. She's never given the impression that she actually has seen the anime or reboot.
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ffs, even worse without glasses
Cool, back to retarded nitpicking about glasses but saying >>272507
is a cute cake is derailing lol Anons have no idea what milk is.
unsaged = not milk
sorry I offended you by saying your fantasy moid is sinfully ugly. He can also barely hold a conversation and enables pedos, even to this day (recent mc posts) Cope and seethe.
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Of course she's in a rush! Her healthy, young husband is not getting younger, neither does she, plus she can't wait to make pregnancy vlogs again and whine about the difficulties of motherhood. Place your bets, how early will she start freaking out about not being pregnant yet? I say by March. >>273874
I hope this is enough of a receipt for you lol or do you need a documentation of her stories in video format again, historian anon?
no one is forcing you to read this thread.
Taylor is fuckin weird.
I'm calm, thanks. It's fuckin weird how focused she is on getting pregnant again without seeming to actually enjoy having a child. It's always about getting or being pregnant (so, about her), not about the child.
>You act like this is some crazy thing that wasn't gonna happen. Let her try and have another baby if she wants another baby.
Where did I say it was crazy or try to stand in her way, kek
>How was any of this actually weird?
It's my opinion, she's fuckin weird and so are you.
>She struggles with infertility
Nta but this is all projection, having a second child reasonably soon after the first one is the most normal thing ever. Having a large gap is more unusual, most people you know will have a sibling with a roughly two year age gap, including the pregnancy itself means most mothers get pregnant again in the first year after the birth.
It makes sense imo to get all the body horror of pregnancy and birth, and the disruption of having a crying baby in the house, all done at once, rather than spread over many years, and give the child a sibling for company.
The weird bit is having a child with someone you can't hold a conversation with imo, she reposted that same clip of her at that park a year before the birth hoping for pregnancy, and making a big "pregnant belly" hand gesture to signal to Tom wtf she was talking about. Having to communicate on such a level with your husband is one thing, but parenting is so complex and stressful and she can't even discuss it in detail with the father of her children.
I kinda think the whole magical end of the breastfeeding journey at 3-4 months was engineered so she could get pregnant again asap. I don't believe for one second that she enjoyed being pregnant or the aftermath, no matter what she says.>>273987
reported for bait. fuck off with your misogyny
That's not how that works. Stop trying to make some weird conspiracy theory about a couple that wants to have another baby. >She stopped breastfeeding on purpose, it was PLANNNNNNNWD
Do you hear yourself?
Are you the same retard from the jvloggers thread, your typing style is so obvious it's embarrassing. Breastfeeding prevents pregnancy, it's logical for someone who wants to get pregnant again not to? do things that prevent it? not a conspiracy, retard>>274029
Apparently your fertility is higher after giving birth, so I think she was hoping for a natural pregnancy for round two>>274030
Yeah I think formulating an opinion from "snippets" is fair when she documents her whole life on camera and all we've seen is a very low level of communication. Are we supposed to believe they have deep philosophical conversations but only off camera kek. They clearly get along well but there is an obvious language barrier which we don't need to see a 24 hour live feed to ascertain
except anon said nothing 'nefarious', just that she could have made a decision to stop at 3 or 4 months for the purpose of getting pregnant again. Pretending it was natural end to breastfeeding isn't some giant lie or evil. though you seem to assume any discussion that isn't praise is slander.
It's gross that she is doing formula advertising now though. Formula is pushed really hard in China and HK.
Good point. Interesting how the baby formula ad went unnoticed here, while anons are busy bitching about a non-issue like a (as of now) non-existent pregnancy.
The ad is double stupid, given that she was speaking about ordering it online not too long ago (if my memory is not tricking me). Speak of hypocrisy.
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Here's Taylor's Enfinitas ad. She got a little blowback in the comments for not clearly marking it as an ad and for promoting formula. China, HK, and Russia aggressively push formulas, there's been studies on how they send women to market formula even in private mom groups on WeChat.
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And here's her bff Jess's ad.
There was nothing wrong with formula and if someone wants to get pregnant they're gonna stop breastfeeding. You sound like such a handmaiden basically acting like a child needs to be breastfed at all times until they're a certain age. That is not the case. And didn't she say she had issues breastfeeding as well? Why keep doing something that's not clearly working for you and your baby? It obviously also opened up an opportunity for her to stop anyway because she wants to get pregnant again.
So yes, it sounds like anon is assuming it's some nefarious plot for this obsession
she has with being pregnant because she apparently needs content. >Of course she's in a rush! Her healthy, young husband is not getting younger, neither does she, plus she can't wait to make pregnancy vlogs again and whine about the difficulties of motherhood. Place your bets, how early will she start freaking out about not being pregnant yet? I say by March.
That obviously sounds like anon is saying she is getting pregnant just for attention and money without outright being a dick.>she is on getting pregnant again without seeming to actually enjoy having a child. It's always about getting or being pregnant (so, about her), not about the child.
These takes are insane. Are you blind?
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nah the WHO actually tries to enforce bans on formula advertising so mothers are not pressured into buying a product. Russian and Chinese companies ignore these bans, US probably too.
I'm not all those posters you quoted so w/e. I don't care what women do but I do think formula ads are shitty, especially when disguised as "what my fav celebrity influencer is doing"
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there are a few more comments but anyway there's no reason to be involved in shilling formula in HK unless you just want money.
You can read more herehttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7967752/
orhttps://globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12992-020-00597-w>The campaigns use emotional appeals to reach out to and build relationships with parents and especially mothers. Evocative brands give these approaches a human face. The advent of social media has made it easier to pose as the friend and supporter of parents; it is also providing companies with a rich stream of personal data with which they hone and target their campaigns.
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having serious issues with bad practices like these makes you a thinking woman, not a handmaiden. Obviously many women are going to use formula and should do what is right for them. They don't need deceptive advertising implying their own breast milk lacks stuff for immunity and intelligence tho(breastfeeding derail)
anon wanted examples from comments so I posted them and explained why some people have issues
I did a project on this subject (ethics/advertising) at uni. I have zero interest in policing anyone's personal choices. Corporate choices are a different matter.
You called me a handmaiden for posting the comments from her IG and explaining some stuff, calm down. She's involved in advertising formula, that's a choice you know.
I posted the proof you couldn't be bothered to go read yourself.
You were frothing at the mouth and didn't even read or watch the content, anon? She uses that formula. It may not be made in HK but it is sold exclusively in HK. When you exaggerate and throw a shitfit over a couple anons saying she could have thought twice about the ethics of promoting formula, you come across as unhinged. The baby thread in /ot/ has similar criticism about formula ads. I don't get why you want to police everyone's opinion about Taylor's business dealings, pretty sure it is fair game since she is an influencer.
I'm none of the posters above, just impressed you don't even watch or read the content you comment on. >If you're opinion sucks, that's your fault. Anons can call it out.
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I see she doesn't care how gross ew-san looks, but the contrast of her puffy pillowface next to his is depressing in more than one way. Why would you want to share a bed with either of these creatures?
My thoughts exactly, nonnie
. Somebody get this man a proper haircut and a personal trainer. He sure as hell can afford both…
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why lie about such a dumb samefag
I'm NTA you even replied to. >>275155
had nothing to do with his magazine. >>275177
Anon just wants to bring up Tom's old milk any time they can. Stay salty and keep ruining threads though, you do you.
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was wondering what the cursed doll in m3gan reminded me of and just realised its taylor. the overblown cheeks + lips strike an unfortunate resemblance
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I can't find any difference.
It comes with the territory. You want a trophy wife? Be prepared to pay for it. Literally.
Tbf, they totally deserve each other.
I don't think having a life together and things that are shared = leeching. It's not her house, it's theirs. Their baby. Their shit.
Yes she probably makes a decent amount from her "influencing" - sad world we live in tbh. Comments on her Bilibili videos say her editor/assistant quit so that's why she doesn't upload there anymore. Not sure if that's true or not or how they know, but I've seen it on multiple videos. Other people are uploading and translating (subtitles) because she stopped doing it entirely. I doubt she was really editing much herself. She showed us how she tells her editor/assistant to edit even reels and tiktoks, no way was she doing whole YT videos alone. She still has one or two assistants for filming though
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picrel, in the latest vlog tom says that he originally bought her a sailor moon cake one year but they were having a huge fight and didn't eat it. in the previous vlog she talks about how they're struggling to be on the same wavelength or as close now that they're parents. this made me feel really sad idk why? I guess I just secretly hoped that tom loves taylor more than he lets on in vlogs.
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it was probably shortly before she filmed this video about having a bad day in Tokyo https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xs411y7ou
Around 7:00, she has to measure her fingers for rings and she makes a pointed comment about engagement rings and diamonds: "if anyone wants to buy me an engagement ring…" "diamond, please. big big diamond." At the time no one knew she had a boyfriend, so the comment wasn't that weird, but in retrospect it is really strange to say that knowing you have been with someone for more than 2(?) years iirc. Maybe he missed the anniversary or something.
The whole tone of that video was odd enough that people discussed it at length at the time.
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I'm sure this mouth-breather has sleep apnea and doesn't use a cpap machine. he's almost always breathing through his mouth when being filmed casually. Taylor did a tiktok about how he falls asleep at random strange times, which is another symptom of sleep apnea disrupting the quality of sleep. Some tiktok fans brought it up in the comments but she didn't reply. If he cares about his health and the quality of sleep that Taylor gets, he should do a sleep study.
If anyone in anons' families is like this, encourage them to get checked out bc sleep apnea over time can cause serious permanent health issues.
you clearly have no idea what mouth-breather means, kek.
>Why should she have to argue everything that's just thrown at the wall about either of them
indeed, that's why they have you
OP said >>277737
>I'm sure this mouth-breather has sleep apnea and doesn't use a cpap machine. >he's almost always breathing through his mouth
Most first-time parents go through this phase, it's common.>>277817
nta just admit you're ignorant of the origin of mouth breather as an insult.
The fact that hideous old men have the nerve to fight with women who are out of their league is so hilarious and sick to me
say what you will about Taylor but her past look was every otaku Asian male’s wet dream, whether or not you personally like it should be irrelevant, it’s obvious Asian men cream over blonde blue eyed skinny white girls who dress kawaii and would kill for her to be their waifu
Taylor could have gotten a better looking rich Asian man easily, she likely chose Tom due to a combination of low self confidence and wanting to always feel like the more beautiful one.
Can’t wait for the weebs to try to defend Asian men by saying they don’t actually fetishize white girls or something, but anyone with a brain recognizes it
So the idea that Taylor is sitting around arguing with a hideous fat ogre and that the ogre has grown so accustomed to how good he has it that he doesn’t even appreciate it is wild
she "fell in love with his personality." Everytime I hear him speak English, I wonder how anyone can stand to listen to that. He can't even speak in full sentences. His Cantonese is less grating, tho. Sad that neither of them seem to care about seriously learning the other person's native language.
I'm sure they got to know each other by Taylor sending pics of herself pouting in little girl outfits and he would reply saying how beautiful she was. Like doll! Goddess! Wow babe.
>>277838>and that the ogre has grown so accustomed to how good he has it that he doesn’t even appreciate it is wild
During the pandemic several 8-10/10 beautiful women I followed on Instagram got dropped by their ogres. One ogre has now returned, the other two women (who were married) are still single (and one went full tilt religious after a period of extreme depression)
These men absolutely don't realize how good they have it. I actually don't think this relationship is for life, I can see Taylor remarrying a more handsome man in about a decade.
I remember in the engagement video, the first thing that the moid asked was "is it big enough?"
it was so weird and awkward
Agreed, Taylor did her best but she was past a prime age and she's tall for those countries. He was definitely the highest bidder in the small social circle she had because she never cared to learn the language or integrate.>>277852
Even if someone doesn't speak English well, their personality will come out. They both don't have much personality between them other than what to buy or brag about to their friends who are more wealthy.
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kek, i happened to save this one
Calling people whiteknights makes no sense here, anon. They are using the point of models who are older than Taylor and who have had filler, starvation diets, body checking, and still model too. >>278129
Mentions filler and says younger models were the problem when older models do work so age isn't an issue. There's no reason to derail about Taylor's modeling again. Still reeks of internalized misogyny like >>278071
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agree with you>>278249>>278274
you're derailing to infight and mini modding. not every post that doesn't agree with you is a vendetta. Tay's face is frozen stiff I'm sad to say
The comically aggressive feminist manifesto dropped over subjective discussion on an imageboard legit reads like larp. I've scrolled past this thread and half of /w/
enough times to assume it's just bait at this point.
Don't bother. The anons that post in here have some of the dumbest nitpicks and takes and all because they care less about logic and because it's funny to make this thread an archive when at the same time arguing with other anons it's not an archive and they can't post 'fan stuff' when it's just posts about her life, but not nitpicking all the way up your ass to get a moral of attempted milk. I agree with you, anon. The desperation to say Taylor isn't a model for the same reasons there are women 30 years old still doing the same modeling she was doing, just shows it's not about the modeling and moreso the fact they just want misogynist views to effect the cows they hate only, but not other women. >>278293
The idea of calling women out of prime is so prevalent on lolcow that it's a shame to know it's mostly other women here. That's the issue, but then complain about the same women who go and get procedures because of comments like that, so it's clearly just a shitpost take to bait. Calling it out isn't bait.
It's just one wk who does fake moralfagging then baits everyone by misinterpreting their posts.
They're legit projecting their own insecurities around age, procedures and work onto other's posts at this point. The fact that they don't even realize how your post was directed to them and think this place welcomes Taylor fans screams ESL.
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I'm not sure if she truly believes in this shit or not, but I'm sure we'll hear a LOT of whining about this as soon as something goes not as she planned.
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after all these years living in asia, she still can't for the love of god use chopsticks