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Taylor R is a “hardworking” “self-made” “successful” former model and Youtuber from Canada whose main claim to fame used to be copying Dakota’s embarrassing 2012-2015 living doll phase. She’s since abandoned this endeavor to copy Casey Neistat, the Kardashians, and Jenna Marbles, among others. Her latest schtick is bad DIY videos and boring 30-minute vlogs in which she recaps serious challenges from her week, including hiring an assistant (for no apparent reason), eating food, drinking Starbucks coffee, exercising, and seeing various scam artists (fortune tellers, naturopathic healers).
Her newly minted husband, Tom Lip, bought her a giant engagement ring from Tiffany’s with the bundles of cash he earns running “digital marketing” companies. One of these companies, MenClub, was exposed for featuring at least 8 underage (age 12-16) girls in skimpy clothing on their site. After news of this spread, Taylor made two videos defending the right of men to ogle children (it’s “cultural”! Don’t like, don’t click!) and insisted that she was never an escort, a claim no one ever made seriously. The purpose of the MenClub “private room” (which requires an individual to vet the applicant’s salary) is still unknown. Taylor claims that it’s for latte-making classes and "cigar nights." Tom's defense of his business ethics throws new light on Taylor's dolly phase, given that he immediately recognized how to monetize Taylor's "innocent" look while still dating her.
It seems that most of Taylor's work since she started dating Tom can be traced back to his businesses. Taylor started out by working for Beauty Exchange, did work for MenClub (though she denied it), and was promoted by Studio 54. There are probably many other connections between Tom and Taylor's "success," despite her insistence that her "success" is separate from his. (While he finances the entire lifestyle she displays on her blog.)
Taylor still manages to be relatable after giving up modeling by purchasing two condos with Tom’s money (one in downtown Toronto, one custom-built in Hong Kong) and flying back and forth between them. Her new full-time jobs include getting her face thoroughly frozen with botox/fillers, traveling in first class & by helicopter for no reason, and getting pregnant by Tom as soon as possible. Anything that happens in her life (such as an ovarian cyst ) is immediately used and milked for views from her teenaged followers, whom she brainwashes with her unique blend of stupidity, pseudoscience, and defenses of her (and her husband's) moral failings.
Taylor’s Links: https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.R.Officialhttps://www.instagram.com/taytay_xx/?hl=enhttp://lovetaylor.com/https://www.youtube.com/user/TaylorR1488
Tom Lip's controversial site for men: https://www.menclub.hk/
Hah, looks likes she’s finally twigged that she’s going to age out for Tom in a few years. Fillers and surgery can only hold back time so much. No wonder she’s so keen to have a baby. Gotta get that shit locked down.
I’ve always wondered how she felt about his obvious preference for her sexy toddler style.
* her false ideas about birth control affecting fertility long-term (she's just afraid of weight gain)
* her belief (now) that her acne is from diet or bc she is not digesting/absorbing nutrients (ED logic)
* the fact that she never gives any treatment an actual shot (she does something for a week or two, then stops)
* she listens to Goop and believes it
* in her vegan phase, she rattled off some stunningly idiotic reasons to be vegan (calling milk "pus" and saying pigs are fat so eating them makes you fat)
* insinuating that her weight loss at 10-11yo was healthy & normal (when in fact she did it to be a ~model~). Kids are still growing then. By dieting when she was a tiny bit chubby as a kid, she probably stunted her growth.
* Endlessly talking about muscles, building a "butt" and toning her body when her workouts & diet are not designed to build muscle.
* Claiming to be gluten-intolerant while eating items that contain gluten (nice cream puff in the OP)
* Acupuncture. Chinese tea to treat acne.
* Burning sage to treat her dog's behavioral issues.
There are other things I'm forgetting, but those are a few.
oh, pregnancy as a cure for ovarian cysts. That's another one.
It doesn't cure cysts. Might prevent you from getting one while you're pregnant, but that's it. She can't seem to comprehend that she had something bad happen to her but it was a fluke. Normal women get cysts. Most don't twist the ovary. There's nothing one can do to cure or prevent a functional cyst unless you have a condition like PCOS, which can be treated to some extent . But all of this is too complex for Taylor, and it wouldn't lead to a big dramatic video about her !!hospitalization!! and how she has to get pregnant right away bc she doesn't want to take hormones.
Both of them have said multiple times that her style attracted him to her. When he met her irl, he was astonished at how she looked like a doll and a princess. When he chose her outfit for a video, he picked a schoolgirl-esque outfit. He suggested to her that she start doing dancing videos (probably suggested doing it in seifuku too).
Dude is into the young style.
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Taylor said in IG that she dropped out of business studies in college…
Does this mean she dropped out twice? Once for business and once for nutrition studies?
How expensive is it to attend college in HK?
well, maybe more than slightly successful since she's taken care of for life now and Dakota is struggling to pretend she still lives&models in JP. Haha.
sage for double post.
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Holy hell. I hope when she's showing these pictures she isn't shilling the whole " I was once chubby" story. Girl, you're 30 and need to let it go. Does she bring this up because it's her only accomplishment?, Losing 10lb twenty years ago. ( Even that she probably didn't do on her own. kek )
I'd give anything to attend, I'd piss myself laughing. Why invite a spoiled gold digger when you have women with real success stories all over the world? Surely they have some of those in HK too. And if the class is specifically about social media/modelling, there is no way that she was the best pick out there. And she must stop trying to seem relatable. She's not terrified at all, she can't wait to blab about herself for an hour. She's trying to go for the genius who dropped out but still made it look but the reality is everything has always been handed to her. One has to be 13 to fall for her shit. Sorry for ranting, I've never posted in her thread before but I've seen her unfold since the Dakoclone phase and this is just the pinnacle of her hypocrisy.
inb4 sugar daddy also got her this gig
>>40582>Does she bring this up because it's her only accomplishment? Losing 10lb twenty years ago.
This and because she loves playing the victim
. She should stop with this shit and acknowledge her privilege.>>40595
She's the epitome of the Dunning–Kruger effect. Incompetent people often consider themselves brilliant and they have a lot of self-confidence because they lack self-awareness.
IIRC she only lost the weight because her parents got her a nutritionist or personal trainer or something, and only because she
thought she was fat. Back in her dolly phase when she was still pretending to be single she made a video with her family in Canada and her mom called her bullshit on camera- "you were never fat".
Who in hell invited her? She hasn't did anything successful? Youtube??.. Don't make me laugh
>>40603>She's the epitome of the Dunning–Kruger effect.
No she isn't. Kanadajin3 is. In fact Miranda is such the epitome of it, I'm surprised her picture isn't in the case study.
Taylor on other hand is basically pretty realistic about her level of success especially in modelng (she knows she was a mid-tier commercial model at best) She knows that her youtube channel is only mildly successful (and it took a long time to get there at that) And most importantly she able and willing to laugh at herself. Self-deprecation is one of the abilities that people who truly have Dunning Kruger generally lack.
Taylor has some major insecurities (which is obvious) that she should hash out in a therapists office (God now she has the money for it) instead of spewing out on youtube. My guess is that being with Tom has magnified her insecurities considerably because he is a self made motivated very successful person. Taylor finds herself falling short compared to him, hence this whole business-oriented boss bitch thing she's striving for. The "work hard" stuff isn't her own mantra so much as it's his
regurgitated. But's it's also the reason she doesn't follow through with things. Ultimately deep down, I don't think that she thinks she's good enough for him. >>40620>IIRC she only lost the weight because her parents got her a nutritionist or personal trainer or something, and only because she thought she was fat
She lost the weight by eating healthy and working out. That's it. Her parents didn't even care or think that she was fat (because she probably barely was). She was bullied in school cause kids are assholes and can always find something to pick on especially someone as obviously insecure as Taylor.
TL;DR- Taylor is lazy and incredibly insecure but not necessarily cognitively bereft and that factor has pretty much shaped her life since she was a pre-teen.
The professor invited her and the students seemed to enjoy it.
It's the halo-effect.
I also don't think she's representative of the Dunning-Kruger effect. However. She's completely obsessed with her looks and has been for ages. I went back to find some old pictures of her and it's just pages and pages of bug-eyed filtered edited selfies. She used to post almost exclusively selfies. I guess that's a thing now, but I still find it weird and narcissistic.
She talks all the time about her insecurities but she def thinks she's pretty and is trying to leverage that along with some awkward kind of quirkiness. I remember that vid she did with her Nana, "Look at all those pictures, you must really like yourself!" kek yeah
I know that sounds petty but I honestly cannot fathom being insecure about your looks and uploading photo after photo of yourself day after day. She uploaded much more often than Dakota did.
I'd rather listen to a motivation speech from someone who actually struggled with weight and not an idiot woman who had 5-8 pounds extra 20 years ago. The pictures she shows are deceitful because she only shows pictures of herself in massive oversized sweaters or with 70% of her body concealed. If you're trying to show your weight loss, why show pictures that don't even show anything. >>40746
>>I honestly cannot fathom being insecure about your looks and uploading photo after photo of yourself day after day.
Being "insecure" and having "anxiety" is the trend these days. I swear 70% of IG models or posters proclaim they have it. I find some do it as a defence like "you can't criticize me I have anxiety/extreme insecurity. You're going to cause my mental health to deteriorate". Or " I'm insecure so I have a right to lie about my looks and make others insecure".
I'm not saying she couldn't have either or, but I'm so tired of people using it as a marketing ploy or defence mechanism. Taylor likely has the average healthy level of insecurity ( because every woman and man has it) but just amps it up.
Kota was a mix between insecure and full of herself. She was full of self-importance. Taylor rode on her coattail and wanted what Kota had at the time. Recognition of being a "living doll". Taylor also had a sense of self-importance and wouldn't take jobs that wouldn't cater to her. Taylor was a successful mid-tier model and puts Kota's success and career to shame. Yet Taylor tossed that because she wanted to be special and idolized.
To me, Tayor is just better at keeping her self-importance and arrogance in check and hidden. I don't buy the "girl power, love and peace, girl boss overly friendly" BS. Wouldn't mind one day Sharla or Memei spilling the beans on the BTS. All Taylor's bffs from Japan are gossipers and drama queens.
Now that the truth is out that Taylor was just a sugar baby getting handouts, & since she dyed her hair and keeps changing her personality I think more and more of her subs will drop off as time goes on. Nobody cares to watch a spoiled brat pretend she worked hard to get something she was given just because she was copying a pedobaiting teenager while watching her frantically cling to trends to stay relevant. Her whole interest in dolly/kawaii was only because Dakota got so much attention in Asia for her shoops, which was what Taylor wanted for herself and Tom bought it for her.
Now that she's married and doesn't give a crap about modeling or kawaii fashion anymore, all those subs that followed her to watch her copy Dakota are gonna flounce because nobody cares about a spoiled rich sugarwife pretending she spent 7 years working hard instead of fucking a rich man for everything she got.
Had a meet and greet… I skipped that whole part of the video. Boring.
Holy fuck I'm losing brain cells.
She's trying a new health thing because some quack told her it'll balance her hormones and digestion. It's just a bunch of liquid supplements. Was told she had signs of PCOS ( fucking kek ) and has high estrogen and too low progesterone.
She's taking Vitamin C and B5 and liquid zinc. Good to know she knows their water soluble and will be pissed out. Believes they'll improve her acne.
Admits to not finishing school and dropping out twice.
Uni lecture ( I skipped thru parts again )
Talks about childhood weight loss > Fasting ( wouldn't eat past 7 pm and would fast for a while ) >skipping in her basement>dietary changes>controls portions >cut back red meat ( now she eats none ) >joining sports teams
She built her fan base really slow on purpose because she wanted them to be more attached to her. Says slow is what grows a stronger community.
>Even if you have 9 followers and they're commenting, don't ignore them and comment back.
Kek, I'm pretty sure the only people she usually responds to are hate comments. I rarely see her engage with her fans unless it's her boasting about herself.
(student) -When you see some unfriendly comments on social media will you feel disappointed or upset about them?
>Ah, yes at first I was and it really affected me. I was really insecure. Uh, but now it really doesn't and I just leave it unless it's really hateful or hateful towards others than I just delete it and block them and move on. So, in other words, I just move on because it's such a waste of time. Misery likes company and they just want to bring me down with them. Just send them some love and move on.
She only responds to negativity though. Making salty remarks about whatever the latest gossip is about her.
(student) - I know the nature of social media and subscribers is always changing, so will you accommodate these changes, or be yourself?
>Oh, I'm always just myself and make what I want to make. A lot of people told me I should try to find what kind of content I want to make and stick with that, and a lot of YouTubers do that. BUT I was never interested in that because I can't figure out what I want to do. I also think that's what works for my viewers because they never know what to expect. I'm always trying new things, and at the end of the day if they don't want to watch my video they won't click on it. So, it doesn't hurt to try. So yea I just make what I want to make. ( Asks to take a selfie with the class as they're her first class )
More shopping and more food and prep for a girls night.
Running errands and something about a doctors appointment. Cafes - food - shopping.
Rambling. ( Which she does a lot of thru the whole video and every video )
I honestly tried to make caps for this video… But kinda failed as it's really boring and brain-numbing watching her.
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at seikei university
How a pretty white girl from a well off family fucked a rich guy who bought her success and fame & if you work hard and stay passionate you too can achieve your dreams pf becoming rich and famous for being white and pretty.
She had no reason to be there and the only reason Tom got her that gig is so she can pretend he didn't hand her everything else since the day he met her.
Post-Kooter Clone Taylor gets the most real subs and views from her viral videos, which all have the same theme: quirky fashion, kind of in the way of Safiya Nygaard. I think the reason it's hard for her to grow is that people don't want the daily vlog crap and especially not this ~business boss b*tch~ stuff. If she focused on making more videos in the fashion niche, she could probably grow a decent channel and maybe THEN someday have authority to lecture on it.
She kind of did this but with her Hong Kong food series, which is just the wrong focus for her imo.
>>41343She's boring as hell.
Daily vlogs are shit and all she rambles about is a having a ugly baby. She acts like a 12 yr old, "girls nights sleepover," bitch are you serious
??.. If you don't grow the hell up. I see why Sharla doesn't hang with her all that much so childish.
I still can't get over that video where she tried to make age lines and couldn't make any wrinkles. I thought people under 40 were supposed to get lighter Botox ("baby Botox") to avoid that frozen look but prevent deep lines (if they want to get it at all). Her practitioner should get some of the blame for this.
She's had filler in her marionette lines for sure. That has always been obvious to me, not that it matters what she does to her face. Her decision.
The hair is all wrong for her skintone, but it's trendy, so of course she did it.
>>42529No but you tried I give you that!
Taylor needs to secure the bag or open her own business while she still can. A ring or a baby is not going to guarantee
her. Too bad she's too busy acting like a 18yr old oof
Her spat with Tom was hard to watch; it seemed like there was a lot of tension between them.
I wouldn't have included that in the video if I was her.
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Only rich af people do. Which I guess ever since she married Tom she now feels like she can senselessly throw around his money. ( Since this is all on his credit card, so don't blame him for being annoyed )
( Screenshot is from a week or more ago )
Well it's not like she's buying tons of brand clothing and accessories for herself. This is shit for their kitchen from when she went shopping with the interior decorator/designer person that he
hired. Furnishing their home is something that he signed off on so it seems he's just making a shitty joke at her expense.>>42923
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I foresee endless gimmicks like this moving forward unless she has a baby soon. Even if she does, I bet money she'll put it in modeling or make it a YT prop.
There's just not much about Taylor herself that's interesting enough to warrant having a YT channel now that everyone knows she was being spoonfed by Tom since she started the dolly shit.
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I was wondering why Taylor was so quiet and it looks like her grandpa died. She seems really close to her family.
Honestly, Tom has more to offer than Taylor does in the relationship. Dunno, why we act like beauty, holds that much worth when Tom is so well off he could easily find another gold digger. ( Probably a better-looking one) Wealthy men have no issue finding desperate models, and there are plenty of low/mid-tier models out there. As you said, beauty isn't forever but I'm sure Tom will always be well off. ( while Taylor will age and probably be half filler half leather bag ) >>44061
No doubt she's likely back in Canada with her family at this moment. Might be a while before she returns to social media. I hope she doesn't make a pity me video out of this though. She does that and I'd lose what little respect I have for her.
Tbh the posters here are probably teen girls who haven't begun to think about serious life stuff. Meh looking guy that's stable, hardworking, reliable, intelligent, etc >>> hot guy who is lots of fun but has no future.
Taylor doesn't seem to dislike being around him either, we can call it stockholm syndrome or grooming or whatever but it's not like she's forcing herself to be there solely for money, i think they enjoy each other's company. He's not super conventionally attractive the way she is, but he's not deformed or anything, just very plain looking.
No most are adults with their own shit.
Meh looking guy? If he has money any chick will fuck him. I wouldn’t be surprised he’s fucking a chick, while he’s away from Tay. If Tay likes him that’s all that matters. I just hope she do something with her life other than being a stay at home mom.. She can open a modeling agency since she has connections and experience.
SAHMs that went back to work because working with other adults was easier for them than spending the whole day chasing around a toddler.
^ If you can’t take care of the kid don’t have one everyone knows having a kid is not easy. Where’ve you been?
Once she have a baby her channel will drop in views it already is.. If she can’t depend on YouTube opening a modeling agency would be good for a second income.
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First post in 3 weeks. Maybe we'll see more of Taylor soon.
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Finally new hair! It looks soo much better than that dead platin blonde before.
Sorry I couldnt get an better screenshot from her story.
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It really does suit her much more than platinum. I think Taylor could even do rose gold or silver and look OK, but the plat was just…….
Have you ever lost anyone? I don't really think she's wallowing or playing it up, at least not yet.>>45539
Agreed. It's not like she used the dog filter at his funeral, jfc anons
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Obnoxious hat, can’t imagine her being so ignorant. This hat is not a Hong Kong thing.
I’m surprised her husband didn’t tell her that.
Looking at the picture they took I cannot imagine them having sex, no money could make me look pass his looks, not even mentioning the 13yo girl drama he defended.
unpopular opinion? everyone is allowed one. Saged this post.
Yes I have lost people very close to me. I didn't take a month off of uni or work when my 6yo cousin died in a tragic accident, nor when my aunt (who was like a second mom to me) died. You deal with that shit by living your life.
She's entitled to grieve. I just think it's pretty rich that she's dragging this out, just like her (minor) surgery. Many people who lose their parents or children cannot even take a month off of work.
dog filter - well, she bravely puts on her makeup and goes to film (note: she claims that YT is her job now) everyday, but she can't because 'grandpa is gone.' Yet she doesn't have a problem doing other stuff so who knows.
Lmao these hats are sold all over asia. She's probably wearing it to block out the sun, like 99% of the people who wear this hat are doing. There's nothing ignorant about the hat itself. Tacky, yes, but not ignorant >>45550
Chill anon. Everyone grieves differently. No one gives a fuck how quickly you moved on. No doubt she's milking her grief, but I'm pretty sure if the majority of us had an opportunity to take a month off with no repercussions, we would.
not white knighting but fr, he's not like MONSTROUSLY ugly, he's just a typical middle-aged asian guy imo
if someone looking like that was able to buy me TWO fucking houses and give me a decently paying job, i can't say i wouldn't do exactly what she's doing in all honesty
This will be my last post replying to bait, but actually, someone did ask if I've ever lost someone so it seemed relevant to reply (saged).
fuck no I didn't quickly move on, what a nasty thing to insinuate. I was a fucking mess. But I had bills to pay and would have lost my tuition money if I'd withdrawn from uni. That's my point. People can grieve the whole rest of their lives, but only a rare handful can afford to do nothing during that process. I would argue that it's better to resume normal activities to avoid the deep depression that can come after losing a loved one.
She dated another guy long term, some (probably rich) HK banker. Taylor used to seem like a prude (I used to think she was some kind of conservative Christian) but that was clearly part of the kawaii image, especially given the kinds of cutesy ageplay pix she posted. Once she realized that overt innuendo and instathot stuff brings clicks, she switched over to that. Now we hear her swear and make anal jokes, big whoop. (Anyone remember her brief Jenna Marbles phase when she used the squeaky sound to bleep out her mumbled swears, just like Jenna?) We finally learned this past Christmas how raunchy her family apparently always was - what a difference from the wholesome "family-friendly" content she used to show us. Why she didn't show us that from the start, who knows.
Of course we only see what she shows us, but every conversation she has with Tom seems to be her leading him to some specific answer. "You liked me because of X, right? You did this, right?" It's because they don't really have a common language yet. He does the best he can, but it's pretty limited and seems (at least on camera) shallow. He even had a catchphrase, like on a sitcom (Baaaabe). Hopefully they can have meaningful conversations off camera aside from Tom demanding that Taylor magically produce a female heir for him.
Tom's heinous response to the MenClub scandal didn't help his public persona much. He didn't give a shit, basically, only owned up to it once the negative press got too big. (And then he and Taylor pretended to be victims
, very funny. Taylor also implicitly accused people of harassing one of the underage models, which nobody was doing - such a classic distraction technique.)
Now we know that he works intimately with another magazine (vivi hk) that featured and promoted Taylor back when she was working in HK, what a surprise.
He just acquired Vivi Hk recently and it seems to be only the digital version. Taylor was featured multiple times in the print version which Tom doesn't have anything to do with.
And actually there were a couple of obsessed assholes harassing her, her friends, and also contacting that model.
Botox, fillers, expensive skin creams, seeing a dermatologist and makeup. Well and don't forget the filters she uses on her videos/pictures that sometimes melt her chin into her neckline. She's been getting spa treatments too. Part of it I'm sure is genetics though as some just carry more fat on their face or have more youthful bone structure?
Essentially you have to have a lot of money. However, I don't find her "young" looking nor old looking. I feel like people have a false perception of what you must look like at 30.
The fact is people expect 30-year-olds to look super haggard and fat. This is probably because most women in their 30s+ are overworked, unhealthy, have kids, etc.
If you take care of your skin and do some preventative Botox, you'll get told you look young all the time.
Well why would she want a niche audience when she has a mainstream one that she knows how to reach. I don't think she would do well in high fashion yt with her quirky auntie personality. But on the contrary, that's what her vloggy-audience likes.
To add some substance since the thread got bumped anyway. They're still trying for the baby but she isn't very fertile. Her hormones are all fucked up, she says. She's breaking out, gaining weight and feeling like she fails at everything because of it. Was hard to listen to it while she was sitting next to her husband and he didn't say a word. Like at least disagree with her, bitch… Instead, he scolded her for talking about bikini hair. Yikes
A few people in the comments of that video said it was more likely that the male was the problem, and that they were an IVF baby themselves. Taylor may end up having to have IVF at only 30 years old herself. It should happen eventually naturally, Tom isn't that
I kinda prefer the older Taylor with more effort in her clothes, long hair, etc. The short brown hair is not glamorous at all. I agree with the Anon above who suggests a segue into fashion discussion would work. Her channel lacks a theme right now.
6 months of trying isn't long enough to say she's infertile, especially given their stress and travel schedules.
Taylor's biggest issue is going to pseudoscientific quacks and homeopathic doctors rather than getting a real hormonal panel done. Yes, she had an ovarian cyst. She may have a hormonal imbalance. But she doesn't actually know that, or she hasn't said 100% that she knows what's going on. She has all these suspicions but then has some kind of blood/health panel done at a woo-woo homeopathy clinic?
Maybe she just wants to drag this out, idk. I wish there were just one or two people in Taylor's life who would call her on her constant BS and need for attention.
The lookbook was so half-assed that I'm embarrassed to have watched it. I still see NO weight gain aside from her face (and we know that's not from weight gain). That too-small denim skirt isn't one I recognize; she probably just bought the tiniest asian size in one of her massive hauls and was horrified to find out it didn't fit. The rest of her body doesn't look any different. We have the weight gain from last year to compare it to - I did notice then (a tiny, tiny difference). [She talks about it here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_81awrdHow
and then one or two videos later does some kind of scammy diet/exercise app advertisement]
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She needs to stop with the cheek fillers.
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I agree. I feel as though she dressed better and presented herself more nicely in Japan just because she wanted to still work and pull in jobs. Now it feels like she's becoming sloppy in comparison because she doesn't have to market herself anymore.
hmm not so sure. She looks filler-y from the side as usual. Could be hormones, but to be frank she's always had some sort of hormones problems before and yet her face wasn't puffy from it, but from the fillers.
Her hair bothers me more. Looks like she doesn't care about it since cutting it. In recent vids, she would have a full face of makeup, looking pretty, and unbrushed tangled hair. Like she filmed a bit when she woke up with scruffy head and transitioned to a part when she got ready to go… with the same scruffy head. She must be really feeling down.
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>>55055> she woke up with scruffy head and transitioned to a part when she got ready to go… with the same scruffy head
I think that the hairstyle is deliberate. She seems to be going for sort of deconstructed casual almost beachy waves. Unfortunately the humidity in HK and probably being somewhat damaged from 6 months of bleaching it white, it just ends up looking frizzy and as you said, scruff
pic related is what I think she's going to for.
Yeah that’s what I meant. Her vlogs are boring and vlog channels themselves are a dying breed. It seems the only ones still big are the big name vloggers or channels who do other things but have maybe one or two vlogs a week alongside their hobby videos.
She could lean on the fashion angle and do vlogs of her life, behind the scenes of fashion shows and stuff, and then do once a week a fashion video talking about a latest release or a show.
When she first moved to HK she did a bit of it when she went to the Supreme show and sale and did a few of those hauls. She kept trying to peg buyers remorse with it though since obv actual fashion brands aren’t cheap and it wasn’t the $20 Zara shit she always buys and shows off to her users.
Anon, her style is shit.
I’ll never and since the beginning understood why people ever liked it. She’s generic for a white model, nothing about her is striking. She’s an average white girl who’s very thin and that’s it. The only thing is that she’s a decent looking ex weeb who modelled in Japan and Hong Kong compared to the likes of the other horrors who tried to make it big there as models.
Ever notice how haggard, fat and ugly other white weebs are? Nose is too big, big chin or something just off. Dakota needs tons of shoop and she’s stubby.
But in terms of style Taylor tries to copy these asian trends. I see Chinese and people from Hong Kong here in them U.K. a lot. Baggy hoodies, stupid SnapBacks, kicks. They look shit with the money they have and Taylor is the same.
She looks young for thirty but most thirty year olds do? Most look after themselves. People who keep saying you’re old looking at thirty have to be in their teens still because Jesus. There are people in their twenties who look older than some thirty something year olds.
I always and still do find her basic looking. Not even saying it out of jealousy. She seems nice, seems okay. But I’ll never understand why she’s at 1 million subs and how people find her drop dead gorgeous. Honestly. I don’t get it.
She paid for half of her subs. She should be pulling in 400k a video with her sub count. She hardly pulls in a measly 100k.>>55419
She would have more views if she actually showed Hong kong scenery. No cares about a baby, whatever random shit like bikini hair and stuff. Her Japan videos are more interesting than her Hong Kong videos.
Only modeling from when she graduated high school (I assume that's age 16-18) until she shipped off to HK in her early/mid 20's, that can't be right
plus I've never seen any Canada modeling content from her
Started modeling at sixteen. Modeled part time while she was high school. Did longer contracts during the summer. Attended University where she studied business for 2 years while still modeling part time. Her agency decided to send her abroad because she was too short for the western market. Did her first extended overseas contract in Japan when she was 19 (thats when her Japanese agency Satoru signed her). Moved to HK when she was 21. Stayed until she was 25. Did work in Japan, Taiwan, and Thailand while living full time in HK.
You probably haven't seen any of her work from Canada because it was part time, almost 15 years ago, and she had no following or major online presence at that time.
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Her face lookes sooo botched! It’s from her instagram story from the other day
That's my theory too, it's pretty misleading to never mention getting fillers yet there is some MyStery problem with her skin. Maybe the chemicals injected into her face on a frequent basis could have something to do with it.
It's a pity when naturally pretty girls like her and Mykie go full botched Hollywood fakery
skin issues, maybe.
hormonal issues, nah.
In addition to fillers, the most obvious thing from the last two videos is her heavily botoxed face. You can see it especially in the eyebrow waxing segment. She has very limited movement between her eyebrows, around her eyes, and in her forehead.
We don't even know she has health issues. She barely tells us about visiting legitimate doctors. Most of her "doctors" (aside from those who treated her during her ovarian cyst) are fake doctors (homeopathic, chinese medicine, Goop-y natural healing stuff). Mostly expensive useless stuff. She was treated by medical doctors for her ovarian cyst, which btw was a normal type of cyst women regularly get; she had bad luck that it twisted her fallopian tube, but this is a rare complication. Most women get functional (aka follicular) cysts in their lifetime and never know it:https://www.uofmhealth.org/health-library/hw181644
Please, please read this if you think Taylor's cyst was some kind of indication of disease or disorder. She presented it as a doom-and-gloom scenario when in reality, this is a normal occurrence in a woman's cycle.
She has never said she has been diagnosed with PCOS. If she had that, she would have said it already. There would be an actual diagnosis. But nope, she's just alluding to this "hormonal imbalance" in the same way she was talking about her "food intolerances" last year, and how the fat in an avocado was causing her to break out. She tried birth control for about 6 weeks and then stopped because it wasn't working to cure her acne and because oooOooOooooooOo so unhealthy according to random people in her family.
One reason I dislike Taylor is the amount of misinformation she spreads. Maybe she has a medical issue. Maybe Tom does. Maybe she's still too underweight or stressed.
Maybe the world is trying to prevent Tom from having a daughter. Maybe she had her uterus replaced with a HelloKitty-themed receptacle years ago and never told us. We don't know, so I treat her like a crazy Goop-lover until she actually gives a solid diagnosis.
Fillers and Botox have not been linked to any hormonal problems, don't spread more misinformation on here. I have read about people breaking out after cosmetic procedures (and I am sure she's had marionette lines and possibly nasolabial folds filled bc I stalk pics of this procedure for my own reasons). She probably gets her injections and slathers makeup over them, causing additional acne.
I agree that saying botox/filler causes hormone issues is dumb. But honestly, a lot of her symptoms align with that of hormone issues such as hypothyroidism (puffy face, weight gain, lower fertility) or could also be associated with something like a gluten intolerance. So I don't really blame her with being concerned about either of those things. But if she's really insisting on going to quack doctors instead of getting a real evaluation I can't really have any sympathy for her.
I can't stand people that endlessly complain about medical issues without being the least bit proactive about them. Even with her grandfather dying, did she really think sitting around doing nothing was the best option? You can afford to go to therapy or even one of those bougie wellness retreat things if you hate doctors that much. Her default is just always sitting around and feeling sorry for herself.
sorry for tin foiling but am I the only one who has never seen her as the motherly type? I can't wrap my mind around Taylor walking around with a baby bump yet being a mother and taking care of a toddler. I feel like she doesn't actually want to have a baby. But idk maybe I just identify her mostly with her teenage-y contend (which, to be honest, she still is stuck with) and can't picture her living an adult life with a child.>>66382
what weight gain? She's always been stick thin and still is. IF there is a biological reason for not getting pregnant, being underweight might be one of them.
This is actually a pretty good video, her and Safiya are similar levels of cringe so they kinda create a cringe equilibrium
They definitely overpaid for those junk clothes with dodgy fake brand names, at least put some effort into getting the "good" fakes (which Taylor has done before iirc)
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Wtf clothing item is this? You don't get the white shirt in the purchase, so it's literally just a hideous gray jumper with a slit on either side.
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Trollin' or not trollin', you decide
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My dream is to look like a middle-aged lady, what's yours?
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I didn't hate these so much until I saw how bad she looked wearing this fashion in her own videos.
Does she really lack taste this badly, or is this some weird reverse fetish on Tom's part? For someone who's husband owns a "Mens website" with "Schoolgirls we Fxxxed" articles, this is very "nun" fashion. It's not even age appropriate.
I think it's good she finally made a website, as she's been saying she will for years - but some actually appealing fashion and less generic articles would be good.
I do think it's a really good idea, but charging so much for these thrift store quality items seems like a cashgrab on her part. Idk we'll see how it progresses, moving away from Youtube is a smart move but I guess this is so incredibly "safe" as to be offensively bland, so far.
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the bulkiness makes it look like a kid wearing their mom's business outfit.
also why is her IG called toat.co when her URL is toat.com..? /facepalm
It might be the fashion in Asia, but based on the comments I've read, all the purchases are from American women. Caucasian women do not look good in this fashion, Taylor even looks bad in it outside of modelling pics.
Maybe I'm wrong and people in Asia are rushing to spend $85 on a grey oversized shapeless jumper, but I'm thinking it's all Taylor fans buying it and they're mostly Caucasian US/EU women
But it's not brand. It's from some unknown factory in Korea, predesigned and premade.
Then if she gets a loan to cover her own designs later on, it will be "toat" which has no brand recognition outside of her fans. I get what you're saying but it doesn't add up to me.
Where is the social status in buying what is currently factory stock from a Youtuber?
If someone in HK wanted to buy these items, could they not buy it themselves from an actual Korean brand?
may be unpopular opinion, but this is the only item in the shop that made me think "wow, this is so Taylor!"
Not everyday Taylor, but since she sometimes goes viral for her weird fashion diy's, it fits. It kind of looks like one of those weird projects. Even though it's not diy, it looks like it. Weird item that you'd think nobody actually wears, but some do anyway.
Nobody's complaining that people bought it, they're saying it's ugly, bland and baggy. She could do something much more interesting.
Also not that hard to sell out when you only have 2 items in stock for each style, she showed the storage room in the video and it wasn't much stuff in there.
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I was thinking this when I saw the looks, that they’re the type of clothes tumblr k-pop obsessed people reblog from Instagram to their themed blogs.
I think the aim for those Instagram pages are “classic, vintage, chic” or anything they could associate with Audrey Hepburn. >>73676
Western people just buy them for the same reason they buy anything an influencer promotes, “I want to be like them”.
Regardless, it’s trendy in Toronto. I’m sure it’s also trendy in other western cities.
Places like Oak + Fort are very “in”.
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I haven't kept up with Taylor for a long time but I decided to watch her new video and was so shocked at how she's looking these days.
I can't believe she walked into a Charlotte Tilbury photoshoot looking like this
She looks so busted it makes me wonder if she did a lot in case she gets pregnant and can’t get fillers?
She was so worried about her eyebrows being too dark but does this idgi
nono anon its t o a t
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Taytay modelling some cool new cashgrabs, I mean fashion, also featuring venus' trademark Greasy Bangs because washing your hair before you take a photo is too difficult 2019
Props to her for clearly ordering and modelling new stock from Korea instead of doing Vlogmas (which I would rather have instead of this junk) but she is working hard.
I feel bad for the suckas who will buy this junk.
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I'm just jealous of all this wonderful fashion tay.
Imagine if she picked up some actually attractive items with color and shape. I don't understand. This stuff looks so bad.
Looks like she's about to sneeze>>75421
What was the inspiration for this one? Grandma's exercise club at the retirement home?
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Nope. Checked, it really is $204.90….
I've been working on finding the wholesale pieces. Some of the Korean wholesale sites require you to have an actual business before you can search their products though.
There are a couple hints in the product urls that will help locate the clothes, though. For example, the fact that the dress is called "onepiece" in the url instead of "dress" - it's a common Korean thing, but also suggests that she is working from a site in English translation and not using a Korean site with help from a native speaker.
The whiteknights appear. Research-chan is doing good work, I hope she finds something. It's quite obvious there's a huge markup on the items she's selling.
I've been watching some old (2 years+) vlogs of Taylor's today and - did she ever mention using beauty filters on her old videos? There seems to be a very clear-skinned glowiness about her in the old videos which can't be attributed solely to camera settings.
This is such a bad aesthetic. Everything beige, bland and unimpressive as hell. I can't even call it minimalism done right. How do you manage to put together outfits with absolutely nothing to look at? Is she just not creatively minded at all?
I mean, I've known she was basic ever since she was trying to skinwalk living doll Dakota (while somehow lacking everything that made Dakota's persona charming), but you'd think in all these years, and in all her time being an actual model surrounded by fashion, she would've cultivated something of her own. She is far too financially taken care of and conventionally attractive to be serving these 2014 expired leftover oatmeal, "back of the clothing catalog from Sweden that your mom subscribed to, but never actually buys from", "Kanye West, a Mormon man and Justin Bieber dystopian prison wear collab" looks.
Even that one German girl who wanted to be an idol (can't remember her name) is more remarkable in style, and farmers used to drag her ass left and right. I bet you all this stuff she's trying to sell for hundreds of dollars is worth like $18 on Taobao, too. Honestly, I don't think she even expects people to buy this. This whole thing seems like a website that exists solely so she can say "I run my own lifestyle brand and high-end clothing store that I also model for".
Actually, tinfoil: What if this entire "brand" is just a shell company for something else? We know her husband is kind of sketchy.
you realise there's always a hug market in retail right? retail is at least twice the price, at least.
it's not going to be a revelation.
Since Taylor is deliberately concealing the source of her clothing, I think people are starting to wonder more about it. She won't answer any questions about whether it is ethically produced or sustainable. A lot of fast fashion isn't - so it isn't like she would be alone in selling stuff from questionable sources. But she ought to have thought about this question instead of (like Elizabeth Holmes) writing barely literate paragraphs about coming up with a name. (If you haven't read her "about" page, it is a real treat: https://toat.com/pages/about
- not all of this was in the video.)
She's got a size issue, sustainability issue, ethical issue, and let's be honest - this crap is "sold out" only to make it look like many people are desperate to buy it. This is a tactic used by Kylie Jenner (among others) to increase their brand's perceived popularity. There is no way most of Taylor's fanbase fits into these clothes, wants them, and can afford them. Why not buy a 100% polyester blazer at Zara instead of from some no-name source? The jeans and trousers in sizes "small" and "medium" - how cute. When was the last time you bought jeans based on s/m/l sizing?
2010-2012 Dakota went viral for a reason, anon. It was all editing and fakery, but it's the truth. She melded this moody/skinny, sickly western model look with kawaii/gyaru aesthetics. She rarely even smiled in photos. She kind of lost the plot when she actually went to Japan, changed her editing style, attempted to make herself into an anime character, then a child and ultimately gave up, but her original, Tumblr-made vision was pretty new for the time.
Taylor thought she would net the same success if she copied the kawaii/gyaru part, but she completely missed the point by ignoring the other influences Dakota originally had (models like Vlada Roslyakova, for example), filled her face with cement, threw in some circle lenses and called it a day. She just doesn't have an eye for these things.
If I remember right, she said one of her older cameras filtered the skin automatically.>>75473
It's popular in Japan, where most people are thin. The oversized, monochrome look is super common.
Being thin doesn't help, they look just as bad, because it makes them appear even shorter and dumpier.
It might be okay on some tall and skinny women, but not on Taylor. She is a girly type, simple sundresses and cardigans like she wore during her early HK modelling days suit her the best. Cute and feminine, but not infantile uwu kawaii.
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The stupid manifesto about stuff fitting "to a t" makes her shop of "one size" (and now a few small/medium size) clothes even more hilarious.
"Style-wise, toat is somewhere between classic femininity and well-tailored menswear. It's confident and powerful, but playful."
well tailored? i'm dying.
Her about page is hands-down the lulziest thing I have read in months. Maybe all year. https://toat.com/pages/about
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fits to a T
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I've been watching her old videos recently, and two times she wore oversized clothing that I noticed:>Video where she meets up with venus, she wears an oversized coat and remarks that the sleeves fit and she looks like Inspector Gadget.>The surprise bag or whatever it's called with Sharla where she gets a bunch of mismatching baggy clothes and puts them all on at once as a joke
We can assume she isn't super interested in oversized clothing to wear herself. She would do well selling TayTay styled clothing: stuff that's similar to what she's worn in videos in the past, like cute overalls, sweaters, tees, etc.
Like how Pixie's confetti club dress up as pastel messes to be more like her. I found some stans on PULL actually tracked down the specific contact lens she wore and bought it for themselves. Her fans want to be more like her, not just buy any junk she buys on wholesale.
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>>76059>>75999>She said she made all her clothes oversized so they could fit as many people as possible. The main complaint when she launched was that customers didn't fit most of the measurements and she can only afford to offer one size. So she made everything XXL.
This is not what she says in that video. She says the following:
- It's hard to source clothing in Asia. The sizes tend to be smaller than average.
- Lots of clothing is free size. This is popular in Asia.
- People from other countries don't know what free size is.
- She tried to pick clothing adjustable with straps or belts.
- She thinks her oversize sweater sold out because it could fit more people.
- She doesn't have enough money to source better clothing in a range of sizes. (LOL)
She did not make anything, period. She did not deliberately source everything XXL to fit more people. Come on. She ordered free size because a ton of cheap clothes are manufactured that way in Asia. She took the easy route. Furthermore, many of her clothes come in just small or medium. Nothing about her shop is meant to cater to other people. This shop is about making money in a lazy way and selling her impressionable fans ugly clothes that fit no one. Girl boss amirite?
free size by asian standards do not come that oversized at all lol. she's literally wearing a sack of potatoes. the style is
oversized, we've all noticed how ridiculous she looks in it.
>She doesn't have enough money to source better clothing in a range of sizes. (LOL)
that's literally what others said. no one said she designed it for bodyposi wokeness uwu which seems to be your issue. just that she chose a style to sell that westerns could buy since it's logical because she's white, when the only clothes she can buy run small.
everyone is wondering why she wouldn't sell fitted flattering clothing and she said why. that's it. it's not worth being so argumentative.
I really don't want to watch this. Her videos feel long and dragged on and are typically whiny.
Is she crying about her age? Hormones? pregnancy? or how amazing her life is and wants her fans to see her cry about it to come off more "relatable".
Whatever she's been doing to her face over the years is looking more and more noticeable.>>73994
For all we know, her husband and his employees or friends are buying everything to make it seem like things are getting sold. It's not an uncommon practice when starting out. But we don't even really know if anything is getting sold. Taylor's demographic doesn't have that kind of money and she's not exactly famous or popular among women do. Women who can actually afford to wear luxury brands or high-end life-style brands like GOOP (Gwyneth Paltrow is not some vlogger) are probably less likely to purchase clothes from someone like Taylor. I doubt the HK elite are getting inspired by her fashion.
With all that's going down in HK, I wonder how long she'll be staying. Men Club HK is getting political.
She seems genuinely depressed, mentions going to therapy and that she has nightmares about her granddad dying.
I think this is her mind telling her to go to Canada so she doesn't miss out on spending time with her relatives, since everyone is getting older, and the elephant in the room which is the months of Hong Kong protests would be getting her down since it makes her hobby of shopping a risky business. She should move to Canada for half the year, I don't see why Moneybags Tom can't just fly to Hong Kong when he needs to have meetings or do them online. His business is online afaik.
(not trying to be disparaging with "hobby of shopping", what I mean is it makes it difficult to have fun or be frivolous when it's Serious Politics all the time.)
She should spend a lot more time at home and I guarantee her nightmares would stop. It's an obvious message from her subconscious that she is missing important family time and events.
Her business could be operated from the US too, since I bet most of her customers are US-based.
Damn, I had nightmares about my aunt dying for years and I had family around. So this just seems like silly speculation to me.
It is weird to see someone so privileged with time and money still not be able to move past the grief and seek to honor the deceased more.
she's crying because she got a birthday call from her grandma and it was the first time her grandpa was not there to sing with her.
it's right at the very beginning of the video.
Money and privilege doesn’t make grief from a close family member dying go away
Sure, it may make it “easy” in the sense that she can sit around and cry and not have to worry about making money/going to a job but grief is something that goes away with time and not with money
I understand her having nightmares as well. It’s a very common experience especially if you witness someone pass.
I think she was genuinely sad, and seems sad for 90% of the video and it honestly was depressing to watch, so I wouldn't consider it clickbait. She sounds happy when she's talking about her toat skirt and Tom's coffee machine.
I think having basically one friend who is your boyfriend who is ESL with limited English is cool when everything is going well in your life, but obviously she can't go to him for detailed advice or therapy when problems arise. I think she's lonely and this explains the no vlogmas which she seems to really enjoy doing in the past. I think a life adjustment is in order and it seems the idea of moving more permanently to Canada hinges on her getting pregnant, which is seeming difficult.
Maybe a lot of theorizing but I enjoyed her videos before 2019 and hope she returns to a better routine with family around her.
In her newest video she mentions she didn't even put up a Christmas tree and usually she goes all out for it. I can't imagine being so far away from family and having almost no friends besides one you pay to follow you around and film.
She should probably be on depression meds, but with how she acted against even being on birth control I doubt she will.
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She’s so damn thin man
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from Natalie's insta…
Lol, what a weird way to say you quit your job. Makes her sound lesbian and like she left because Taylor didn't take an interest. Does sound like it ended sour though. The use of "quit" rather than "she found a new job or is moving on".
Doubtful we'll get any milk though.
I've thought multiple times that the reason why she isn't pregnant even though they're apparently trying and have been for a while, is because she's clearly underweight. That messes up with your hormonal system.
Or, she doesn't actually want to be and stays underweight on purpose. Wouldn't be the first time in world history women do that
Being underweight can be a factor, but she obviously has some sort of cyst issue judging from her past history.
She likely needs medical intervention and help from a fertility specialist, but instead chooses to rely on traditional chinese medicine thinking that will help her. I wonder if she's scared of treatment or actually believes that the Chinese stuff is more 'natural' thus superior.
they haven't been trying consistently and he is more likely the problem, tbh.
her cyst was a functional cyst. Most women have them at some point in their lives! It was bad luck that it twisted her tube, but the cyst itself was nothing abnormal. She's never been diagnosed with any health problem. She just drops hints that she might have pcos, but there are actual medical tests and ways of diagnosing that. If she actually had it, we would know.
I think it's various reasons: underweight, exercising for an hour or so a day, and husband is over 40. She gained a tiny bit of weight early in 2019 iirc then complained about it in a video and reappeared with very thin arms and legs later on in the year. So I think she tried gaining weight and hated it. Now she's too skinny imo.
I'm also wondering if she's taking hormone supplements which have led to her depression, because that "verge of tears constantly" thing that you can pick up on her last two videos (and perhaps before that) is something I experienced when messing around with hormones (blogpost: I tried taking the pill without stopping for 2 months, and ended up as above)
She tends to keep her cards close to her chest so we're unlikely to find out what's happening, but there are my theories.
I hope she does better this year as I felt like 2019 was a very uncomfortable year for her, even as a viewer attempting to watch her videos.
Oh wow, thanks for the summary anon. I saw the graphics he showed of piles of money+cartoon baby+Canada but I didn't know what that could relate to.
It sounds like he was very thorough in addressing the various problems related to Taylor and Tom. I always found it weird that there's so many English expose videos about Kenna/CozyKitsune when there's more problems with Taylor.
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Damn, her face looks like it's about to burst from all those fillers. scary
I hate the new editing style. Normally I could watch a whole vlog by her but I just can't. Shots are too long and broken up by funhouse mirror warped zooms (once is enough) with onscreen text also
warped. And too many zooms. Faces aren't that funny. It's 2020, set up two cameras at different angles and switch beteeen shots if you want visual interest. This ain't it.
Idk if Taylor really edited her old videos but whoever did it/however she did it prior to Natalie, I much prefer it.
This new style is even worse.
Yeah. She said trauma, different from depression >>80327
anon. No one is trying to cheapen anything.
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Just because she's depressed because she's never experienced a hardship in her life doesn't mean that her old grandpa peacefully dying is traumatic. Words have meanings, sorry that's a lot for you all to wrap your heads around. She is 30 years old. Grandparents die. Imagine saying to someone who survived a natural disaster, or a rape victim
, or a soldier, or someone who has been in an abusive
relationship that an old person dying naturally is traumatic to you.
unpopular opinion, I guess, but I do think the word "trauma" is cheapened by applying it to this situation.
I'm glad she is going to therapy. She has a lot she could work on.
What I can't figure out is how blasé she is about her health during this virus outbreak. The streets of HK are eerily empty, and yet she's going out to eat and acting like nothing is different. For someone who talks a big game about health and family, why isn't she protecting those things right now? Maybe the media is exaggerating, but why present everything as if life is normal? it's weird.
>>80412>>80419>The death of a loved one is incredibly difficult for most people who aren’t fucking sociopaths
Most people lose their grandparents when they're only children bit they still go to school and function normally after that, hell, some people even have to go to work the day their fucking parents die. She's just incredibly privileged and doesn't even realize it. And you and her other fans are enabling and validating her.
She has it a ton easier than the vast majority of all humans. If this hits her so hard, then she should keep quiet and get off youtube until she's back to normal again. Some of her very young viewers might have horrible lifes, how are they supposed to feel when a wealthy womanchild is crying about the same thing for months?
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Anon, why are you so personally offended by this? All anyone said is that the death of a loved one can indeed be traumatic. We know that Taylor's wealthy and quite spoiled. That doesn't change how strongly a family death can affect someone, and trying to gatekeep what is or isn't "real" trauma is pointless.
>Most people lose their grandparents when they're only children
For the record, "most" is a bit of an exaggeration. A good portion of people don't lose their grandparents until in their late teens and 20s which, arguably, hits harder at that age.
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This video shows Taylor looking angry/upset during the entire makeover (especially the hairstyle portion). The guy cutting her hair remarks on the "serious" condition of her hair (which I assume means "damaged"). At the end, he tells her to come back in a month so he can make the bangs perfect and dye it. But she chose to go elsewhere for the dye and restyling.
Based on this video, I wonder whether she even paid for any of this (especially makeup, since she didn't know she would get that done). They made a promotional video that is edited very professionally. It was actually a great promotional video, not boring at all. He showed her specifically how to recreate the styling, step by step, and explained everything. None of that was in Taylor's video - she just wrote (rudely imho) "I can't get my hair to look like this" on that part of the video, underneath her irritated-looking face.
The video also shows undeniable proof of fillers. Look at the pouches near her lip corners.
god this must be kiki this level of sperg is insane
that looks more like acne covered in foundation, unless you're pointing to her buccal fat??
Taylor has a very bad acne on her chin and jawline and that's just that.
Talking about fillers she would put them on the cheek and not down there.
Fillers never go away you braindead wk. They just move and sink to different parts of the face. I doubt that she happens to have symmetrical cystic acne that looks like foreign objects under her skin.
She's openly obsessed with the Kardashians, why is it so shocking that your precious taytay whose face can barely move or emote is just another shallow millionaire and not some humble, sweet hardworking good girl who would never get fillers in her late 20s-early 30s out of boredom, insecurity, and an inability to consider the long term effects of a thing!
I don't care what Taylor does to her face. I just saw what she looks like when she isn't editing herself. And this one particular kind of filler is one I have investigated.
So, for clarification, I'm talking about the part that looks like a pouch on both sides of her mouth. I didn't see cystic acne in the video and the cameraperson got pretty close to her face.
She absolutely gets Botox. I don't know anything about cheek fillers or other injectables. But I know that filler in the area I indicated helps even out lip corners that droop.
This is minor blogposting but it's relevant to my opinion:
My mother and grandmother have horrible puppet lines and droopy lip corners. So I have looked at hundreds of photos of how filler can fix genetic resting bitch face, because I already see faint signs of it.
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I don't think most anons doubt that she's had fillers or some kind of work done, but I see what >>80542
is saying. Some people have that puffiness under their bottom lip, it may or may not be due to fillers. But honestly, who really cares, the filler sperging is old milk.
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Idk why people still fawn over Taylor I just find her so basic looking
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back in her humble natural days
Dunno if you're trolling but you can see how different she looks smiling now. >>75039>>80608
The lips are clearly plumped with injections, not just overlined. The lower lip is a completely different size and shape compared to the image on the left.
Not wking but maybe she was just bored since she couldn't entertain herself during the whole process. I remember people saying a girl in a hair video looked upset during the process, but she explained that she was just bored because she couldn't use her phone because the cameras were rolling the whole time and they didn't know what footage would be used for the final video, so she had to sit with a straight face the whole time. >>80617
Dang she actually looks really pretty and model-like here.
She was like 10kg thinner back then too. >>80635
What's with the sudden massive influx of Ostrenga sounding spergs nitpicking and bringing fossilized milk. Can't you all fuck off back to PULL where you belong.
Pretty sure that anon is mocking anyone who dares to criticize Taylor even slightly. And to that anon: Fillers? nah. Could be bulimia.
Ever since Tom Lip's online pedozine (yes I am exaggerating) was exposed here, it is impossible to say anything about Taylor without being called a sperg, Ostenga, PULLtard, or stalker. I think it's interesting just how many people populate this thread solely to defend Taylor, and how they come out to create a distraction when necessary. During the revelation about Tom there were some comments that seemed like they had to be deliberately provocative, meant to undermine the actual criticism in this thread by making us all look like crazed idiots.
Don't fall for it.
And to the Tayliban: why is it so important to you if Taylor's face is uwu natural or not? Why is that something so utterly offensive that it can't be talked about? When more and more people do it these days? Most people posting about her face are not making this a deep moral issue. I think it would be responsible to say something about it, since she pretends to be so "open" and "real," but in the end it is her face and her decision.
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since it's an image board, enjoy the pic I dropped
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sorry if this has been posted before, i was watching a Japanese show on netflix called Samurai Gourmet, and holy shit look who it is??
Samefag, it's not just the voiceover. It's the live video too. It's such a change in pitch it sounds like she's been taking testosterone, or has edited the audio pitch in post.
Thanks, I hate it.
She's a Basic White Girl who married into money and got to live the weeaboo dream without having to support herself, to the chagrin of every kotaclone on the web. The best part? she didn't even care for the style, she just did it for clicks/views and stopped when Elbow-san guaranteed her a sweet life for nothing.
Taylor the Lancome model sans circle lenses was best Taylor, before she went kawaii to find a pedo-esque guarantor to take care of her after her career.
I think Sharla was her only real friend and she was always just tagging along. She had a falling out with Mimei, but that might've been more of a Mimei vs. Sharla thing. She and Venus did seem to have a thing though?
She didn't show much interest in Japanese culture (all of her interesting content was thanks to her agency/team, Elbow-san and other vloggers)and didn't seem to share others interests with the jvloggers, aside from going to cute cafes and pretending to be vegan.
She couldn't speak Japanese nor really do anything on her own, even the most basic things like riding the train, and it probably got tiring for the others to have to take care of her after a while, especially if they weren't really friends outside vlogging. Knowing she had access to all of that money and connection, and all of the time in the world yet didn't do anything with it probably made it more annoying.
Plus Elbow-san is creepy and was already creepy enough before everyone found out about the bikini-clad 13 year olds in his magazines.
it's literally linked in the video description >>84241
ntayrt but they weren't defending tay they were literally saying tay is mindless drone that follows what's popular. take your hate down a notch, you're coming off insane LMAO
Right, I can't get over the disparity between her current hobo look and her old kawaii look. She has a naturally pretty face yet just looks constantly scruffy and like she has no concept of fashion or flattering style.
I nearly am suspecting she's pregnant, but that's just tinfoil, due to my lack of comprehension why someone with a pretty face and model body would choose to present herself this way.
Reminder that our girl thought this was an okay way to dress, act and talk at the age of fucking 27 and that her lovely boomer husband (who also features very underage bikini/underwear-clad girls on his website) fell in "love" and fucked this version of her. "Kawaii animuh dance" videos even exist of her at 28. And her only excuse is "Haha, so embarrassing!".
It's a true miracle that she wasn't dropped like a hot potato a la Kota (the latter and Venus at least were only teens). On the contrary, Taylor even gets away with muh female empowerment and "I'm so sad, pity me!"… I usually hate this word but she's the definition of privileged.
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She was 26 and could pass for a lot younger.
Tom is born at the very end of Gen X depending on which chart you use. If you are going to insult someone for their age at least get it right so you don't sound like a moron.
She wasn't dropped like Kooter because her situation was different then Kooter's. When Taylor was Kooter's age she was behaving reasonably and working normally as a model. She didn't gain 30 pounds and laze around like a slug while acting like a cunt to people in the industry.
And by the time the video was made she was 26 she was already moving away from modeling and her agency (who she'd been with since she was 20 or so) had her back and considered her useless videos to be talent work (strongly disagree but whatever)and therefore worthy of an entertainment visa.
Both Kooter and Taylor are spoiled and privileged but Kooter prematurely torpedoed her own career with her behavior and general shittiness.
That's the most autistic bullshit I ever read lmao Somebody guesses your princess' age wrong by an entire year?! Quickly run to her help with stats to show those meanie haterz!
Sorry for mocking a 26-year-old who calls public ageplay "modelling" while being with an ephebophile generation x-er sugar daddy. Of course Kooters is born much wealthier and commited the crime of being fat on top of that, so much older (but super young and bootiful looking!) Taylor copying her at an again much older age was only fair and not pathetic at all. And in case somebody calls her out, just say it's your agency's fault. Same with the mirror-on-the-floor-to-show-female-guests-panties event she went to, that her hubbie talked about on his site for classy gentleman. Only a powerful girl boss making money and being inspiring.
his can only be an Ostrenga. Kooter wore her ratty taobao knockoff clothes until like 2017, she sold off all her expensive gifts and all her clothes are free from friends or bought by her parents.
BOTH Kooter and Taylor were spoiled, priveledged whores competing for attention and "Pretty Points" from jealous poor weebs the world over. Both of them leveraged their youth and sexuality for personal gain, and both of them publicly and shamelessly acted like embarassing weirdos in the process. The only difference now is that Taylor secured her lifestyle and Kooter can only pretend she still has hers 1-2x a year when she gets a job as a favor.
Taylor and Kooter did the same thing, just Kooter was trashier and more cunty about it while Taylor was more ditzy and girly.
>>84437>Kota is wealthy
That's obviously sarcasm…
Anon said Kota is just as privileged and spoiled as Taylor but we all know that she's from a shitty home with irresponsible parents and a sad lunatic older sister while Taylor basically had the perfect family and childhood. Kota probably fucks slimy old men so that she doesn't go completely broke and has to return back to Florida while Taylor married Elbow-san because she wanted an even comfier life and even more money than she already had to begin with. You can't compare those two, Kota was basically bound to end up as trash, but Taylor could have easily gone to a good school, gotten a degree and a well paying proper job but she chose not to because she's a lazy af hypocrite. She by far wouldn't be as grating if she just admitted that she's living the sweet trophy wife life.
I hoped that the vile af website shit going down would drive away fans/wk but I guess not…
The very end of Gen X? LOL keep reaching. He's solidly in the middle and looks a hell of a lot older.
Previous anon was using "boomer" to mean "significantly older," not in a literal sense. It's a current thing, I don't like it either, but don't pretend it's some literal comment on his age.
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Taylor has started selling knock-off items on toat. She once said how much she disliked knock-offs and how she would never buy them.
But here are toat's brass bee earrings:https://toat.com/collections/accessories/products/brass-bee-pearl-earring
and the picture attached shows Dior's tribal bee earrings
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The crystal bee earring on toat here: https://toat.com/collections/accessories/products/crystal-bee-pearl-earring
is a replica of the Dior Tribales bee earrings (attached picture)
Also great move, Taylor, pricing earrings individually when not even Dior does that.
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And her announcement on Instagram gives no acknowledgment to Dior for the design of the earrings. Given that the bee is a signature motif for the brand, it's pretty tasteless.
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took her a while
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Does Tom have a babyfat face fetish or something because why is she doing this to her face?
I think it's good she made this video, but I think she feels too much pressure for facts and accuracy after doing things in the past like forgetting WW2 happened (iirc)
This kind of video doesn't suit her and isn't fun to watch. But she did make good points about not being racist (people harassing anyone who looks Asian) and basically addressing the various issues.
Honestly, I don't think anyone was bugging her to do a video. I think people just wanted to know where she was and if she was taking precautions, which is kind of normal for people who are watching a Youtuber based in HK. She always takes it to the extreme and says people are asking her to "address" something when in reality they just kind of want to know how she's doing.
It was the same with the protests. Except during the protests she was doing a ton of PR IG-story promotions for stupid skin care and makeup she will never wear, so it came across as tone-deaf imho. I think there is a way to delicately handle real-life situations without making some big video about them. But Taylor can't understand nuance.
are you retarded? Don't spread misinformation. There's a difference between 'not knowing if it doesn't spread to fetuses' and 'doesn't spread to fetuses'.
At the moment, they don't know if it does. Don't act like you know and possibly cause a serious issue in someone's life.
She posted NOTHING about this virus when it affected Asia primarily. She realized she could leverage it for views and followers once it spread beyond China. She now posts stories from CNN and NYT with half of the words underlined and her vapid comments in the margin.
Most of her preaching is about face masks, which are unavailable in most parts of the world right now.
Remember: while people in Wuhan and other places were dying, this child-woman opened PR boxes. She did not show herself donating time or money, she gave no advice to her followers. She posted nothing. She did not care. She went to cafes and traveled. She sold her overpriced taobao fashion.
I cannot tell you how much I hate her at the moment. I used to be pretty "enh whatever" about her, but now, she makes me rage like nothing else.
Nta but I agree 100% Anyone uncomfortable with Taylor being called out for being a privileged airhead is probably also privileged and airheaded. All she could do during months of protests was vaguepost about a heart emoji hurting to her stories. An adult woman in her 30s. She wants to make a whole ass human life but doesn't know how to talk about her surroundings (which are the only reason she has an audience) in an appropriate way?
I don't think she needed to make a whole damn video and be yet another clueless white youtuber talking out of their ass. She could have briefly mentioned it at any time the weeks she was out jetsetting and taking selfies of her aliexpress resale clothes.
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Just posting this Instagram caption for posterity.
The autism in this thread is unbelievable. It's not that deep.
She's saying that at the hospital where she's getting her IVF (she put this caption on a photo of her there) she is being poked a lot (presumably by doctors/nurses) and that poking will make the baby, not getting dicked down by her husband like how most of the post-quarantine babies will be made.
Between her and Yumi King
Another poor weeb related asian half white fetish to join this virus infected earth.
And watch Taylor force it into modelling
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Oh man, but you know it will. Thick frizzy curly hair and fat saggy face.
lul she now wants to speak up after she took a whole 3 months to do the video.>>86687
The baby still has to deal with getting the dad features or mommy forcing him or her to model and get fillers to appease papa.
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Taylor is larping as an old woman, all the beauty treatments and now IVF. It's odd. Tom seems kind but it shouldn't be that
difficult for a 30-year old to get pregnant. Seems unfair when the problem is primarily him, for her to have to go through all these treatments. You get hormone injections to prepare for IVF which might explain her recent emotional state in previous videos.
She has confirmed POCS and various endo symptoms, fertility issues are a normal part of that. She even had a clean-up surgery before because shit was blocking one ovarian tube.
Being 30 is fine when you are healthy but it is absolutely not too young for fertility issues when you aren't.
Did she try, oh idk, not staying model thin for her creepy sugar husband despite having no career? Outside of clickbait titles about gaining weight and "exercise"?
How does she even have fans? Being a white woman in Asia who coasts on being a white woman in Asia is not aspirational.
She doesn't have endometriosis. It would have been seen during her surgery. (There's no dye test for endo - it can only be confirmed by seeing it during surgery.) She was also vague as to whether she actually has PCOS or not. One (functional) cyst does not mean you have it. In the end it isn't my business, but I don't like her misinformation about health.
She's really awkward and vague about their issues, but she said multiple times since Jan 2019 that they weren't trying. How consistently they tried is a big question.
my personal tinfoil: I think Tom is pushing for conception as fast as possible. Who knows his motives? I also wonder whether Taylor's vagueness about her health is meant to cover for a problem that is really Tom's. She overshares (poo, period, everything). He doesn't.
You are either a scrote or you were influenced by one as anon mentioned >>87189
You shouldn't be worried about infertility in your 20s nor in your 30s in today's society with all kinds of possibilities and technologies it's offering you. And it's a myth that abortions make you infertile or unable to get pregnant again if done correctly of course. I know some women who had abortions and they had no problems to get pregnant again. Change your doctor because he is scum.
I'm in Germany, a very liberal country considering pro choice and womens rights. I wasn't pressured into any direction or decision, the doc just stated the facts and I'm glad that he did so.
Having the first child in your mid 30s or 40s is definitely not ideal. It's basically impossible to become first time pregnant at 40 without having to resort to fertility treatments, mid to late 30s is already pushing it. Selling women the lie that they can delay a pregnancy until almost middle age because "there is always an option later" should be a crime, because those options are not failproof and there is a time limit to anything and not everyone can afford those treatments, so they shouln't be taken for granted. If you like it or not, those are facts.
I really don't mean to be a whiteknight but some of these comments are just nuts. You're really nitpicking a woman struggling with infertility for getting IVF? I can promise you that no one is getting IVF just for fun so this doesn't even make sense.
Seriously, there are plently of other ways that Taylor is problematic
, can we stick to those? Honestly I thought it was super dumb how she seemed to be sticking with homeopathic bullshit up until now so I'm just glad she went to a real doctor.>>87196
Why wouldn't he just use Taylor's name if he wanted to do this?
He's already in his mid-40s, so that could be reason enough. He could be a senior citizen before his kid graduates from university.>>87201
In your country, the average age of a mother at first birth is 29.4. In most wealthy European countries, the average is somewhere between 29 and 31. In Canada, the average is over 28, with most babies born to mothers between 30 to 34. It was 29.8 in Hong Kong 12 years ago, so probably over 30 today.
>>87201>Selling women the lie that they can delay a pregnancy until almost middle age
You're the one selling the lie though. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-long-can-you-wait-to-have-a-baby/309374/>It found that with sex at least twice a week, 82 percent of 35-to-39-year-old women conceive within a year, compared with 86 percent of 27-to-34-year-olds. (The fertility of women in their late 20s and early 30s was almost identical—news in and of itself.)>Among women having sex during their fertile times, 78 percent of 35-to-40-year-olds got pregnant within a year, compared with 84 percent of 20-to-34-year-olds.
40 is really the drop off point, 30s is fine and the slight decrease in fertility is a fair exchange for financial stability, maturity, and waiting for the right partner at the right time.
From someone who has been under a lot, you are hooked up to an IV and since they aren't going into her mouth at all, they probably advised her to drink a lot of fluids before this procedure. Also it looks like her chin and face mashed together as she was laid flat. You don't exactly get that princess alignment when you're knocked out.
TL;DR Yeah, that's extremely common when you wake up after being sedated.
oh I agree, she has always had disordered eating. Who goes on a diet at 11? Her parents allowed and supported that too.
But it does bother me when she shows off a pretty flat stomach and tells her audience it looks pregnant.
On top of that, she clearly has disordered eating and body image issues. She's setting herself up for emotional hell and potentially impacting the baby's health with how deathly afraid she is of gaining weight. Getting pregnant and hating your body unless it's a certain way are not really compatible conditions.
But sure, she will totally
have a completely healthy pregnancy and post partum period and has no chance of pushing that kind of toxic
thinking (as well as her complete lack of ambition or purpose) onto her child, anyone who says otherwise is just a hater.
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Someone on PULL found her clothes via reverse image search on Taoboe, looks like she's marking up 3-5X as much as retail.
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There's more in the Taylor Social Media thread o'there.
Filename was the OP and not mine.
Also the narcissism of posting greasy-haired "cooking" videos on her Instagram. I'm kinda baffled at what she thinks is relatable content
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I can see this maybe being part of a vlog where she is otherwise washed for the majority of it, but as a standalone it's like someone rolled up to meet you looking like this and then cheerily waved goodbye as if nothing was unusual.
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NTA, but most stores I see will mark things up by $10-$20, at most. Still a rip-off, but this girl seems to take it to a whole new level. Her prices are ludicrous, especially for someone who's not actually hurting for money.
$110.94 for an $18 sweater? Lmao. Hope nobody is dumb enough to buy shit from her.
Generally people are paying for >The shopping experience in store>A curated collection of items exclusive to that store
So basically those TOAT cardboard boxes and the time spent finding all the worst beige sweaters and baggy dresses money can buy, in her case.
I did not know and the majority of her fans are only teens, so chances are high that they have no idea either and might beg their parents to buy them this crap. Isn't that something you kind of have to state, did she ever do that?
On the official website it says>TOAT IS A ONE-STOP LIFESTYLE COMMUNITY FILLED WITH TIPS, ADVICE, AND THE LATEST FASHION FROM OUR FOUNDER, TAYLOR R’S TRAVELS AROUND ASIA. WHETHER IT’S SOMETHING YOU READ OR SOMETHING YOU PURCHASE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE A PLACE IN YOUR LIFE AND HOPE TO MAKE YOU FEEL CURIOUS, CONFIDENT, AND EMPOWERED.
This could be interpreted that she designs clothes inspired by her "travels around asia" or at least that the clothes are picked from different asian brands - not straight up taobao…
Most people don't have to make GoFundMe and Patreon for stuff like this. Especially peddling resale items at high markups. Idiots will buy this no matter what and especially Asian people. Have you not seen the upselling of Walmart brand stuff here in the US and selling it for over $400 in other stores? People are fucking stupid. This is something Taylor is smart as hell at to be honest. Cnosumers in general never double check, especially when you market limited quantities.
Not to mention though they whole 3X sizing might be true for Asian sizing, like 4L which is an XL in the US and L in UK. She can actively market these sizes without disclosing properly the sizing per country.
Her milk pretty much ran dry a while ago and I don't think it has to do with her husband's money. It seems more to do with she's older and she doesn't have to rely on shit early 20 year olds have cosplay that's have to do.
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I was tinfoiling that she might be also copying the taobao images for her own styling in her Toat photoshoots, based on the images so far. After seeing this compilation on PULL I have no doubt. Same poses and outfit combinations.
>>88085>Scamming people is a new low for her.
I was on the fence about her for a while but this is a whole new level of disgusting.
Isn't her family fairly well off already? Scalping taobao crap at 300% markup as her uwuBrand
uwu is really, really gross.
Don't even get me started about the state of the world rn, she has been privileged all her life and expects hundreds in profit while barely lifting a finger. (It is also really telling that she is the only model. She is building her portfolio at the same time.)
She must be stooping to such a low level because either Tom isn't doing so well anymore financially or she is finally showing her true colors. Either way, she deserves no respect.
It's so blatantly obvious to me and so many people the very simple truth of what she is: a spoiled, privileged white girl who moved to Asia so she could get attention for being white and pushing harmful ethnic beauty standards. Who also married a creep with a fetish for white girls who got rich exploiting women's insecurities about beauty and selling nasty content of underage girls to other old creeps.
Now she is a glorified taobao reseller, shitty viral video maker, and pandemic expert, who wants nothing more than to have a baby because she has no clue in her tiny mind what else to aspire to or want out of life. Who has the time or energy to wk someone like that? Out of all of the actually admirable people on this planet? Couldn't be me.