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No. 897463

Alternative title: "Mods please don't lock this one before it even starts" Edition

Dinara, aka Develv, 28, is an artist on DeviantART known for making fetish art of eunuchs. She often shares her account on the site with her sister, Elvira, 26, whose own account and username is Elveo. The lion's share of their infamy stems from their antics in the Russian art and fanfic community, and the site HolyWarsoo has been archiving their antics since 2015.

The sisters have a bizarre fixation on historical young boys who were the victims of genital mutilation and sexual abuse by older men. They combine this fixation with a general disdain for other women, often making their eunuchs resemble fashion models, while actual women are drawn to be plain, unappealing and/or broad-bodied, at best, or strange, ugly caricatures with mannish features, at worst.

Points of interest:
>Elv is known for editing actual Wikipedia pages to distort information, and match her and her sister's eunuch romance yaoi fantasies
>Psuedohistorians in every way, constantly claiming that this or that woman or group of women were actually beautiful men (for example, Amazons or nymphs in Greek mythology actually being men all along) or not female-identified (Hatsheput being a trans man)
>Both are intense apologists for the abuse and castration that eunuchs went through, claiming most of them were not victims, but "glorious, beautiful, innocent angels" and "figures of power". They enjoy writing fanfiction and drawing fanart of these historical figures, romanticizing their ordeals and completely reimagining their appearances
>They defend pedophilia in general, and sexualize living boys who are CSA victims (Bachabazi), young Jewish men and boys, gay Middle Eastern men, MtF transsexuals, intersex people, etc under the guise of "appreciating male beauty" or "supporting love"
>They were homeschooled and raised in some sort of hypermisogynistic cult by their insane father, which may explain their internalized misogyny
>They believe Jesus was a eunuch
>They are staunchly against any depictions of Biblical angels or certain historical figures (mainly eunuchs) as anything but beautiful (often white-looking) otherwordly, feminine beings, in spite of the actual Bible and real life photos of eunuchs contradicting them
>They love to post their own psuedoscience about eunuchs, trans people and intersex conditions
>Elv once burned a book for not being gay enough, and both sisters complain that lesbians get too much attention while gay men are ignored
>Both of them have racist views against non-white people, despite not being white themselves (they are Eurasian), and their father believes that the caste system was "great"
>Both claim to be against sexual content for being "impure", but love to draw fetishistic content (including BDSM) of eunuchs
>Elv is obsessed with Tom Hiddleston and Nicolas Cage, and has made multiple edits of them to make him look more like women
>They raise their cat on a vegan diet, and constantly shoop themselves to look like their eunuch drawings
>Chronic sameface in all their art, possible tracing and fucked up anatomy to make their eunuchs look as "perfect" as possible

Currently, their main fandom is Detroit: Become Human, and most recently, Dev's work was featured in a fan zine full of fanart. They are still fascinated with eunuchs (especially Elv), still write their fanfiction, and still carry the same views as before. Discuss their antics here.

Dev's accounts
DeviantART: https://www.deviantart.com/develv/
DeviantART #2: https://www.deviantart.com/devakami
Virink: https://virink.com/elveo
VK: https://vk.com/id157395929
VK #2: https://vk.com/albagoas
Tumblr: https://siringadev.tumblr.com
Tumblr #2: http://bagoastheeunuch.tumblr.com/
Pinterest: https://ru.pinterest.com/devarikami/
FicBook (fanfics): https://ficbook.net/authors/54924
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Iluvatar3


Elveo's accounts
DeviantART: https://www.deviantart.com/elveo
Virink: https://virink.com/develv
VK: https://vk.com/esiringa
VK #2: https://vk.com/elveoart
VK #3: https://vk.com/fatihfrumos
Tumblr: https://elveo-art.tumblr.com/
Tumblr #2: http://fatihfrumos.tumblr.com/
Tumblr #3: https://eovinmygod.tumblr.com/
Instagram: http://instagram.com/elvtransylvania
Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.ru/elvenkingforest/
Proza (her translations of various pieces of literature and history): https://www.proza.ru/avtor/elfira
Poetry.ru (her translations of Ottoman poetry): https://www.stihi.ru/avtor/fatihsultan
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0TKvCN11BWdEagxnl_OnJg
RuLit (fanfics): https://www.rulit.me/books/dlya-ego-udovolstviya-download-free-494361.html

HolyWarsoo thread, where most of their milk is collected, preserved and discussed (For those not fluent in Russian, please us Google Translate or DeepL translator: https://www.deepl.com/en/translator - Russian anons welcome to translate!):
http://holywarsoo.net/viewtopic.php?id=879

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No. 897469

File: 1574645778956.jpeg (1.03 MB, 1242x1574, 1571024946492.jpeg)

Brian Dechart gave Dev some recognition, not knowing the depths of her depravity.

No. 897472

File: 1574646000531.jpg (89.6 KB, 473x750, tumblr_d7cabba72bc8d10c8e30617…)

Recent fanart of the Joker by Elv. Complete refusal to acknowledge anything non-bishonen about whatever male character she likes, as per usual.

No. 897479

File: 1574646646554.jpg (295.61 KB, 1000x768, 8iUUaEmW1U4.jpg)

I should have added that they're into writing and drawing DBH characters as eunuchs as well. Dev in particular enjoys drawing gay porn of them. Remember, though, she is asexual, and her art is of pure intent.
>Connor-intersex in a very seductive-feminine image is just a fantasy, a continuation of the AU theme from the story "Androgin" and "Not Like Everyone." Special work, made to order. The full version in large size on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/dev_elv (not because I do not want to share, but because not all people are ready to understand and accept this type of beauty in young men, unfortunately. So , who wants to see the full version, please contact in private messages, I will send😉)

>"Connor had great difficulties, the society did not accept him as he was. It recognized only two sexes, male or female. There is no third. And so that society would no longer perceive him as defective, he chose a female image and a female gender only one by one However, inside he remained a guy whom only his twin brother, Richard, understood and accepted. Richard is his defender and his second, strong and courageous half. He is the only one who loves Connor and sees him as a boy. seen in connor not a phenotypic girl (maybe a trans girl or an intersex girl), and Connor was forced to accept it. He just wanted to live and enjoy life. He did not want to always explain to people who he is, why he looks like that, he was tired of fighting. go with the flow and tell people what


>For those who do not know, to avoid questions: Connor is a genetic man with testicular feminization syndrome, in which the male body externally has a female phenotype with developed mammary glands and hips.


>Other illustrations for the work of Androgin:

>https://vk.com/wall-94786050_7350
>https://vk.com/wall-94786050_7377
>With Richard:
>https://vk.com/wall-94786050_7885
>Before going into a feminine look ( alternative version):
>https://vk.com/wall-94786050_8099
>Links to fanfiction in posts)

No. 897486

>Alternative title: "Mods please don't lock this one before it even starts" Edition
Don't whine, just make better OPs and it won't happen.

No. 897490

>>897472
Are they gonna argue Arthur is some intersex pure creature next? God I hope so been catching up on these two since I used to see them pop up on DA.

No. 897553

File: 1574657865770.png (114.28 KB, 1150x512, cringeworthy tags.png)

Peep the tags on a fanfic Develv illustrated. Repulsive. Does she perhaps have a fanfic account we don't know about yet?

Story for the polyglots in here (illustration incoming): https://ficbook.net/readfic/7815955/21489879

No. 897554

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No. 897653

>>897469
again?! dechart never bothered to check who they are. barf.

No. 897850

>They believe Jesus was a eunuch

what? when did they say or draw jesus geting his dick cut off ?

No. 897918

>>897554
>>897472
These are really bad, wtf

No. 897925

Have people actually confronted them about their delusional rewriting of history? I know they wouldn't listen but it'd be fun to watch them rage kek

No. 898067

File: 1574772055927.jpg (15.85 KB, 433x368, cage.jpg)

>Elv is obsessed with Tom Hiddleston and Nicolas Cage, and has made multiple edits of them to make him look more like women
>Nicholas Cage
WHAT? Source on that?

No. 898101

>>897850
I think OP is wrong here, they never said that, Deva just portrayed him the same way she portrays eunuchs (I'm russian anon who follows holywarsoo thread from the beginning, so I'd remember if they said something so fucked up).

No. 898463

File: 1574854895192.png (4.8 MB, 1867x2048, 1565260612574.png)

>>897850
>>898101
OP here. I got it from here:
https://holywarsoo.net/viewtopic.php?pid=2954499#p2954499
>Early images (Byzantium) painted Jesus beardless and asexual. It was even believed that he could be an eunuch (whether spiritual, from birth it is unclear), but such a version was, and was accepted with pleasure by the sect of eunuchs in Russia.
>Then the cult of masculinity began, and Jesus began to be painted bearded. Closer to the time of classicism, they began to portray it as powerful, powerful, with heroic features. And only Russian painting depicted him as a thin man with features close to realism of an ordinary and stern man, exhausted by austerities. Sometimes they also painted with a beardless youth, as in the icons of Good Silence (if I am not mistaken) and in the picture of Vasnetsov, where Jesus sits on the throne.

>>898067
This I was wrong on. I thought pic related was an actual edit of theirs while scrolling through the past thread for recaps. Sorry to disappoint, lol

No. 898789

>>897472
GOD. I fucking hope they dont ruin my boy joker too i swear to god–

No. 898799

File: 1574935685315.png (269.34 KB, 720x641, 1562083691256.png)

I showed pic related to someone discussing the sisters and they told me that the description of their "eunuchs" sounded like people with Klinefelter syndrome


>Klinefelter syndrome is a genetic condition that results when a boy is born with an extra copy of the X chromosome


Symptoms that coincide with what their eunuchs are like

>Taller than average stature

>Longer legs, shorter torso and broader hips compared with other boys
>After puberty, less muscle and less facial and body hair compared with other teens
>Enlarged breast tissue (gynecomastia)
>Tendency to be shy and sensitive

There are some more serious ones such as
>Absent, delayed or incomplete puberty
>Weak bones
>Low energy levels
>Difficulty expressing thoughts and feelings or socializing
>Problems with reading, writing, spelling or math

sage for non-milk

No. 899016

>>897472
To me it looks like she's just jumping the bandwagon, this pic doesn't look even quarter as polished as their usual stuff. OR Elv is trying to branch out with her artstyle a bit, she's been always less of a cow than Deva.

No. 899069

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Elv is such a crazy fan girl it snt even funny anymore

No. 899070

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>>898799
Yeah but it doesnt happen when you cut a mans balls off right?

>>899069
The pic at the top

No. 899071

>>899069
Forgot to add

>Its just cringy as hell

No. 899083

>>897553
Good lord, its about underage twincest…I'm gonna translate just the summary for now :

"Twins Connor and Richard loved each other very tenderly, hugs and kisses - was normal for them. But it never reached full incest, they didn't even suspect that something like that could happen between them. During a summer vacation, they didn't go with their parents to grandpa's summer cottage - a place surrounded by forest where their secrets are hidden, and where strange things happened to the twins"

Like I scrolled through the first chapter and there is a really weird sex scene between Brian and Gavin? (never played detroid idk who they are)

No. 899135

>>899070
No it's genetic but i found interesting how similar they were.It almost seems like they took all the "positive" traits and left out the health issues

it's most likely a coincidence tho

No. 899173

so…are they lesbians in major denial or what? I just don't get how you can hate women so much you view them all as short fat trolls and project all feminine beauty traits onto castrated men, while you yourself are a woman… do they think they're actually eunuchs and their parents 'lied' by saying they were female??? it's like internalized misogyny taken to the extreme, how have their brains not exploded from the contradiction

No. 899174

>>899173
yea pretty much, that was discussed here before. Wont be surprised if they actually were lesbians or bi

No. 899175

File: 1575029945462.jpg (Spoiler Image, 463.76 KB, 704x1000, d7pvxdn-07fc6755-3334-41e0-8ff…)

>>Byleist is older Loki's brother, son of Laufey. Jotuns are ancient gods, therefore incest does not make sense.

yeah nice try elv, theyre brothers but its nOt inCEST. I know your just horny

No. 899322

>>899175
Is Loki an eunuch too? What's going on with that body and face, no definition whatsoever, doesn't look human.

No. 899507

>>899322
None of the things they draw are human lol

No. 899587

>>899083

>there is a really weird sex scene between Brian and Gavin? (never played detroid idk who they are)


Gavin is just a dumb dick. He's not really a memorable character, but IIRC that's his only trait. The Brian thing is kind of interesting, though– there isn't a character by that name, but the voice actor for Connor is named Bryan Dechart. It seems like fans of the game would be pretty into him (like Dev apparently is, see >>897469). It would be so creepy if Dev's online social circle wrote a real person into their fanfic. Btw, thanks polyglot anon! The Develv online universe is like a car wreck.

No. 899932

>>899587
I did some more peaking and it looks like Connor and Richard characters are sons of Brian? Also it seems like a woman named Amelia is mother of Connor and Richard, and wife of Brian(they have a weird platonic non-sexual relationship, she shows up few times like hi, sorry,bye). And Connor's + Richard's grandparents were Lorent Dechart and Gabriel Dechart (brothers) who also had incestuous relationship between them. Its a mess…

No. 899934

>>897472
In the comments under that picture she gushes about how 'feminine' the Joker was in the movie (his gestures, long hair, thin body, how he dances and jokes around). The picture was a present for someone she seems to be friends with.

No. 900013

>>899932
So in her weird twincest AU the "parents" of the twins are Bryan Dechart and his RL wife Amelia (who also starred in DBH)? And "Richard" is a human name given to the RK900 android, Connor's twin. I can't find anything about a Gabriel or Lorent Dechart though, don't know if they're real people (shudder) or not.

No. 900456

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>>899934
Yeah its um…off putting coming from her especially, considering her and her sister sees everything in their wierd fetishized lenses

Arthur is just rlly socially awkward and its obvious plus, his hear lenght srsly makes him feminine? Come oooon

His thin body? The guy is malnourished for gods sake

No. 900460

>>900456
*Hair length

No. 900752

File: 1575335484491.jpg (150.43 KB, 666x1000, ddl5zz2-059859f3-d556-43dc-bd8…)

I love how almost everyone in the comments agrees that elsa does not look like a boy here. She just looks like regular elsa but with shorter hair

No. 900762

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>>900752
Lol how is Elsa supposed to be a dude in this?

Love how Elveo went apeshit when someone told her Elsa looks the same and only looks a teensy bit like a boy

No. 900791

>>900762
>I also removed makeup
Didn't know men woke up with bright pink eyelids and white eyeshadow at the inner corners of their eyes.
To be honest, it's like they have no clue what "androgyny" even means. They're completely enraptured with hyper-femininity (as much as they may dislike actual women). They literally just draw women, remove the breasts and say "Behold, a man of beauty and youth!". I know their standards for men aren't that high, considering the crush on the guy who played Loki, so why can't they just look at actual androgynous male models and work from there?
For two sisters who are obsessed with male beauty, they sure suck at portraying it.

No. 900844

>>900762
Yea its an absolute shitfest and i love it

No. 901540

File: 1575466257529.jpg (2.27 MB, 2505x4060, 20191204_212323.jpg)

Sorry for bad quality. I cant find good quality pics

I dont know why elv is insistent in drawing radu like an eunuch when he probably isnt

No. 901541

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>>901540
Its houseki no kuni levels of bad

No. 901626

You know what's kinda Ironic is that people in the past thought the same way as these two, that castrated men were uninterested in women. Of course castration (forced or voluntary) doesn't change someone's sexual orientation, and there were many cases of relationships between harem women and eunuchs, even though it was forbidden.

No. 901830

>>901626
Ikr

Well they did admit that they hated heteronormativity, which sucks for them cuz thats the vast majority, no wonder theyre so hateful

No. 901889

File: 1575519053401.jpg (40.54 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg)

>>900762
Oh my god…I watched that Russian cartoon as a child…the reason why Kai looks like a boy is because HE IS a young boy drawn for little children…Also way to call out modern art…..the most famous male character from soviet cartoons, Karlson, is far from anything androgynous lmao

No. 902551

>>898463
I'm the anon who made that pic, it was just one of their pieces on Amy Schumer's face that by coincidence turned out to look like Nicolas Cage lmao

No. 902808

>>902551
Thats hilarious.



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