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General thread for altcows, cows in the alt scene who use that to fuel most of their cow behaviour.
Featuring (no particular order):
Jake Munro & Toxic
It's Black Friday
Kat von D
Of Herbs and Altars
Psychara & Manic Moth
Avelina de Moray
Jude Bishop (also has her own thread for some reason)
Previously on alt-cows:>Jake thirsts on teen fans, calls himself daddy while dressing like a kid high on crayola, announces new cover/rip-off with his band
>Kaya continues to be lazy af and broke the TV a fan sent her and Jake
>After another hiatus IBF returns with pity-me video of things that were mostly her fault, lives in Scotland for now, currently visiting doormat fiancé in NZ
>Voltaire has creeped on and groped young fans, dated someone half his age then made songs after they broke up like Taylor Swift (he's 50)
>Cassandra groped the corpse at a funeral of her friend who committed suicide
>Psychara and Moth lie about totes sustainable clothing, overprice stuff on Etsy, continue to be superficial and catty
>Kat still secretly raising son antivax, Seb still fake lgbt, Erin still a poseur, Dre still without toxic friend Kelly whom Jake thirsts over, Jude still wants to be famous with 0 effort and thinks Jake is the best YTer while Jake rips off his look from her daddy
Last thread: >>>/snow/855132
not psychara, it's maimagi
psychara ripped off a tattoo
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>ripped off a tattoo
other reasons have included:
>it was because mara wanted to stay at mai's house uninvited>mara and mai were fighting over a camera and taking photos>mara stole/copied mai's sustainable clothing brand idea
I'm really confused.
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It's still private for me, unless this is the wrong account?
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I'm so annoyed.
Kaya's outfit and hair actually look cute in her new video but she ruins the entire thing with the dorito eyeshadow.
apparently some guy started hitting on her in the street which I find hard to believe
I'm that anon who said I was as fat as Kaya and still get male attention. I don't look alternative at all. Men will often go for less attractive/average women because they think they have a higher chance of getting laid than with a gorgeous woman. That being said I used to look alternative and got lots of "I bet you like kinky things" comments from strangers, even though I was a teenager….
But I agree with everything you said, there is an anon here who every time Kaya posts a new video where she doesn't have make up they'll take a bunch of screenshots of her acne. Like, we get it, she has acne and a double chin. But don't you dare try to talk about Voltaire groping girls.(blog)
Gotta agree with you on this one. The only times l side with other anons talking about her weight, is when old, snarky posts of hers resurface. Heck, l was the anon suggesting the thread pic, and l'm glad it was chosen.
If new people lurk here, hopefully they'll see it and maybe realize that Kaya is not-so-lovely after all. >>872849
The eyebrows are so up there on her forehead. She should just have avoided drawing them imo.
But why would you doubt it kek. After all, she's not ugly or deformed.
Her weight was never mentioned.
I'm sorry you both have issues with your weight and have to project it onto everyone else.
The horrible doritos eyeshadow and her being 6'5 in her high boots is why it's hard to believe that guys would just randomly approach her in the street
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drac addresses her absence from youtube
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A good reply under _averyv's original comment.
Dragon Scale Gloves: A Double
Halloween Giveaway! :D
Of Herbs and Altars
Published on Sep 23, 2019
How to enter:
Method 1: My shiny new Patreon link is here: https://www.patreon.com/ofherbsandaltars
, & as soon as you sign up you will have access to the first secret video waffling
, where you’ll be able to enter this giveaway from the comfort of your snuggly bedchamber, & no limericks required! :D Other perks down the line will be early access to YouTube videos, further Secret Videos at the launch of each new giveaway set, input into what colours & styles of gloves you’d like to see knitted next, & you guys will be the first to know if I have extra pairs of gloves to sell, as well as when I hopefully get some demonic t-shirts
underway! I do also have a limited number of still-to-be-signed copies of my book lurking somewhere in the depths of this dungeon, so once I get organised with Patreon, I’ll create my little Etsy store for future knittings, & let you guys have at the books that remain! Eternal squiggly gratitude
to all who choose to venture forth upon this WOOLLY CRUSADE with me – you’re more wonderful than I could ever express! :3
Method 2: If you choose to enter by post, the address is:
Initial Business Centre
Wilson Business Park
- Each giveaway must be entered separately; entry now is for the orange & black gloves; to enter for the purple & green pair, await further instructions
from my Instagram, circa the 7th October. In this particular orange & black giveaway, your postal entry must include:
1: A number between 1 and 2,500
2: A way to contact you online – email or Instagram, ideally
3: Your postal address
4: A PREFERABLY RUDE OR MORBID LIMERICK!
5: A picture of a dog
, be it a photograph or artistic doodling!
The winner will be chosen at 3pm UK time, on Saturday 5th October, & notified by the evening of the next day, so that’s just under two weeks, but my PO box gets shipped over on a Friday or Saturday, so this will give postal entries the best window possible, without too much of October slipping away gloveless! The winner will be selected via a random number generator; if two or more people have the winning/closest winning number, I will assign them each the new numbers 1, 2, 3 etc, & spin again.
For anyone interested in knitted their own dragon scale gloves, I made a tutorial on here several years back, so feel free to hunt that out, though I have changed & improved my methods considerably since then – nonetheless, it will give you the basics of knitting with & without scales, & all my own pairs of gloves have been knitted as per tutorial – it works fine! Scales are available from Etsy, & you want the ‘small’ size, but not the ‘tiny’ size some shops do!
Good luck to all, & the happiest of Spooky Seasons! :D
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He's a real embarrassment.
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what the almighty fuck is this look?
Jake I know you lurk here so here's a tip,
put some primer or moisturizer on before your makeup and then your skin won't look so terrible
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There ya go stumpy. This is how it's done…
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This is happening over on goth memes on Facebook.
Not overly sure what this is about but the “goth” that’s using a dead blind mans assets and things because she’s broke is fucking disgusting
It’s not about him, it’s about the woman sunshine soon.
There’s not really enough mill about her though to bitch about, besides her convo with whomever.
Looks like the owner or owners of the page are deleting posts. I go to comment and then all off a sudden cant.
Who died? Ehy did she take the dead mans belongings? Who is chuck? I’m so lost on all of this!
>>872871>I believe it, but not because "Kaya can still be attractive!!1!"
No one here even said that, anon are you feeling okay?>>872891>Her weight was never mentioned.
Lie. Her weight has been mentioned millions of times in these threads. She got called obese in the last thread. And some times it's because Kaya posts about her weight/weight loss etc but a lot of times anons will just post unflattering screenshots from her videos with 20 replies calling her fat.
>she can't get hit on because she's tall
Okay, so fat women can get hit on but not tall women? What if the guy had a tall fetish? Some times women who you don't like are going to get hit on, and you're just gonna have to learn to cope with that. What >>872871
said is true, men will put their penis in pretty much anything.>>872859
Milk has been being posted though, it's just that people get bitched out for it.
oh look who's hopped on the e-begging train. shit happens in life, ppl are worse off than you, why should anyone give you money? i hate that ppl did, these cows never seem to have anything saved for emergencies, and yes i get things come up that can't always be covered but i'm sick of seeing them whine and beg and give next to nothing in return. if she had kept selling art maybe she'd have something to deal with things like this. also she still looked fat on that ig live she did.>>872924
this person gets it, and it's so shitty that ppl have to word themselves this way b/c she has a habit of lashing out on any comment that's not completely positive/ask kissing and then have her fans pile on so that maybe she'll notice them or whatever. >>873089>>873117
these ig vs video/reality he keeps doing are hilarious. he knows ppl can see what the looks are like in the videos and even posted a pic of him with the stupid black contouring and still had a double chin but continues to over edit.
funny how he kindly replied to those ppl who called him out on making halloween related merch while also stating his dislike for it when he just posted on twitter his ~witty comeback~ he 'mistakenly' replied to someone who said he should do something more interesting than unboxings. goes on to say he doesn't care, that he's too busy for commenting on that sort of thing, yet dedicated the time to make two tweets about the situation.
and how sad is it that kaya can't do dutch braids in her hair but jakey boy refuses to even try. like yea she's said terrible things so not sad like aw i feel bad, but sad like he's so busy fapping to ppl feeding his ego he can't even do something for his girlfriend for a few minutes.
I would forgive Kaya's old tumblr posts if she just addressed them and said "I was young and stupid back then" or something. It's the fact that she completely ignores them that annoys me.>>873117
Darth Maul is that you?
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Since the post has been archived, l can't post a collage of some of her replies.
Anyway, she said that she ran out of ideas for vids; also, since she considerably toned down her looks, she sees herself as an uninteresting individual.
(Back when her comments were open, she also added that she can't be bothered with yt anymore, because her job is too tiresome).
Regarding the shop, she said that she's thinking of reopening it to make dresses and sell them.
Her parents are aware of her current situation and helped her with advice, & as you said, they are probably unable to provide financial help as well.
What baffled me is Avelina's shameless plug. She could've sent her business partner some money in advance, in exchange for some more promotion, asking her to make artwork… I guess this is too much to ask for kek.
Sage for double posting.
Holy spergfest>>873270>You can't have it both ways Drac, keeping yr private life private, doing no YT videos for a year(!) And then expecting yr fans to cough up the minute you get into a jam
This. >M-muh private life!>Welp guys help me with my private life problems
Pick one, Bianca.
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He sure knows how to appeal to them, and some people already ordered.
I checked one of the comments, and that person also got his previous shirt. So he even got consistent buyers.
I mean, it has every tacky, edgelord element that is in vogue
in alt fashion: edgy words written in spoopy font, inverted pentacle, ''horror imagery''…
So it's not surprising that they're throwing money at him.
She's not only breaking the rules, but also expecting the snail-mail applicants to doxx themselves for a chance to win?
The letter idea is beyond me.
What if two people pick the same number?
What if you live somewhere where you can't possibly get your letter delivered in two weeks?
I get having fun with it, but requiring a limerick and a picture for a random drawing? I'd get it if it was a poetry or art contest. But just to get your number into the pile…
This whole thing will end up a disaster. Nothing is thought out and no one should participate. But you know damn well people will.
Also… a Patreon, really? With how much perfume, lenses, drugs and alcohol she buys, does she need more money? She's fed and has a place to live, her parents would probably let her mooch off them until they die.
Granted, I couldn't stomach the video so maybe she gives some proper reasoning for it. But the only thing I can think of is spending that money on materials for knitting to give away to a random supporter. Still that's against the rules.
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He mentioned wanting to use the patreon money to move out, as well as producing better content, although he didn't provide a lot of specifics on that one. He also plans to op ern an Etsy for his knitting. That's not a terrible idea, since his knitting is actually pretty decent, especially the patterns he designs himself. I can see that selling.
As for the giveaway, uf people have the same number they'll be assigned a new one and run through the randomiser again.
But I don't have a fucking clue about the dog/limerick thing.
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not surprising, he's too busy reveling in all the money he's making off ppl buying his lazy merch, including the stuff he wears in videos. but he's apparently putting up an audio book tomorrow. >>873392
ugh, can someone listen to this and tell us if it's good or not, i don't want to hear him butcher the vocals after shitting on another musician for the way they sang. also, if anything is out of tune most ppl aren't going to just ignore it.
why do both he and kaya have moon faces? kek>>873390
as confused as you anon, what purpose does it serve other than just another pointless thing she "needs" that's dark and spoopy
Shame she doesn't have any ~goth~ interests she could talk about and be interesting about. I know everyone says she's all look and no substance but it's so damn true. She likes how ~spooky~ things look but that's about it. Same with tubby edgelord. I know he has his band, but the music's shit, really
shit. And boring.
I knew this looked familiar.
Why. Just why. >>851784
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so on average these things can cost around £200+
I just can't believe someone would spend that much money on something and then send it to Kaya who just uses it to dress up in her clothes.
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all he does is make dick jokes. Kaya must really hate herself to stay with this asshole. >>872908>>872924
These are both good replies. You cant unblock your comment section when you need money and help and ignore all your followers 300 days out of the year. She's trashy and greedy
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Sorry about the multiple posts.
Anyway, to sum it up:
-Manipulative whore junkie, whose last victim
was a blind man named Brent, who recently passed away.
-toyed with the admin of the goth memes page(Loki/David/mainmin) >>873646
-Acts like a complete whore and then plays the victim
-fat shames people, gother than thou gatekeeper >>873563
-a complete skank who leeches off friends and bfs and leaves them as dry as a bone.
The goth memes admin looks like a vendetta-chan, but we can't dismiss the rest.
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Her comments are still open, and she's interacting well on her latest posts about the job at the bakery.
Until someone pisses her off, that is.
Also, she promised to do smth for those who helped her, she suggested writing letters and said that she'll make a poll on ig to discuss the reward. >>873673
As you said, if she doesn't pay them back with artwork, it would be a real shit move.
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He had to come up with something in order to avoid being called a sellout.
You're deffo not lying, jakey boi.
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oh a hand written note, whoopdedoo. agree that she could've put stuff up for sale instead of just going right to e-begging. idk how her car even got towed but if she needed it that much why not make sure something like that doesn't happen.>>873841
yea he should just keep taking other ppl's content b/c he can't come up with his own. pretty sure he'd need permission to sell it, let's be real, he wouldn't put it out for free.
as for the jack skellington song cover, i'm not a musician but it seemed like he had some sort of effect or something on the vocal to make it better. it was alright, he did it for the views and all the accolades from his tween ~snaccs~.
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Disgusting, as always.
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Feeling a little insecure, are we Jake? You literal fucking poser. You're not "goth", nothing about you is "goth", everything you do is in effort to prove how "goth" you are. Everything except for actually participating in the scene, that is.
Ok this is really pissing me off. Funny how every shitty poseur gets their pants in a twist whenever they're called out, and start throwing the word elitist as punctuation.
Trying to be articulate and philosophical doesn't change the fact that you're in it for the clout, and you're by no means a goth.
Look who's talking about preserving ''goth''. Maybe by being such a role model and tweeting obscene things, or selling tacky merch when he hates halloween, or not talking about the music, not even once.
And please Jake, a NBC cover isn't goth music.
I would say yes. It used to be Social Repose but I'm not sure if he was as disgusting as Jake but still the same poser. But yeah, Jake is borderline Onision poser goth edition.>>874022
Shut the fuck up Jake. "What I define as Goth music" Shut your fucking mouth, you don't decide what goth music is, Goth is an already established genre that has it's own characeristics of what makes it what it is. It is not opinion, it is dact. Because if you're gonna be saying nonsense like that, then we'd have[ people saying bands like Nickelback or Hinder are Metal bands because "they sound heavy in some of their songs".
And considering the fact that there is a lot of new Goth music that has come out in the last 10 years, it negates you're fucking "Goth has evolved" nonsense. Yes it has evolved a bit but not in the way you're implying at all. For example, a newer band like Lebanon Hanover or The Rope, they don't sound like The Birthday Party or Virgin Prunes. They have a slightly updated sound but the foundation is still there, just more polished. THAT is what the evolution of Goth music is. Not you're shitty nu-metal music. Get the fuck out of here you uneducated dolt.
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Drac's latest post.
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Just when I thought she was being surprisingly mature, >>874082
popped up. Boo hoo hoo, woe is me, feel bad for me
that's what it reminded me of, thanks anon. he really has no room to comment about other music/vocals when the majority of what he does -much like his looks - is lifted from others.>>874020
i think it's b/c she's not goth any more and didn't want to have them up. >>874250
but she had medical problems, wahhhhh. like ppl work through those all the time, when she was feeling good she could've done drawings or put out more pins, ppl seemed to actually like those.
>>874419>So many snowflakes love to mention their medical/ mental problems all the freaking time. Like they're the only ones having them and other "normal" people are 100% healthy ubermensch who power through everything, no problem.
This is what pisses me off about IBF and pretty much all influencers. They make videos and posts talking about depression and anxiety and other mental issues as if they're the only people on the planet who have them and everyone else is 100% happy and high functioning all the time and have no idea what mental illness is like. As if there aren't millions of people who keep going back to their miserable low paying jobs even though they have crippling mental/physical health issues but have no choice. Also if anyone makes any mild criticism of IBF she goes all "muh depression!!" actually Kaya does that too but not as much.>>874022
I can't believe I actually used to believe Kaya and Jake when they would talk about goth "elitist" bullies on the internet. I see now these "elitists" are just people saying tame things like "you're not goth if you don't listen to goth music" etc. but Kaya & Jake just can't handle it. I wonder what Jake would say if I listened to nothing but Kpop and then called myself a metalhead. I would just tell him that he wasn't allowed to decide what makes someone a metalhead because he doesn't have the authority.
Also Jake is nearly 30 but types like an angsty teen. "you don't have any authority over me!! I dont have to answer to you!!" cringe. What I wanna know is why the label of "goth" is so god damn important to him? What is it about that label that he needs so desperately to be associated with it?
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Real high brow humour there Jake. It’s fairly easy to tell his formal education pretty much ended by age fifteen. It’s disgusting how he tailors his humour and content to appeal to the underaged masses. Kaya, I know you lurk here so this message is for you - get out of that relationship, your man displays some serious predatory behaviour, unbridled aggression towards anyone who comes for his inauthentic nature and engages openly in inappropriate, lewd dialogue between himself and fans. Not to mention the fact he has zero respect for you as a boyfriend, he has as much pride in being your partner as Germany does of Hitler.
The moment he gets an opportunity, if he hasn’t already, he will cheat and ditch you faster than you’ll ever be prepared for. He is truly disgusting.
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Who wore it better?
Jake on his live stream looking like a fat kelly osbourne
God he's such a pie faced ugly cunt. He's the music taste of a 12 year old in the early 2000s and thinks wearing black hoodies constitutes as goth.
Imagine dating this faggot while he's baiting for sexual chat from his fangirls.
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Kaya giving a shoutout to another alternative youtuber? What's this?
They just say that shit so that people won't take them to task for their ugly behavior, it's not a mental health issue so much as it is just them being dicks and wanting people to bend over backwards for them.
Like nowadays 'depression' has become a the blanket codeword for lazy bitches to complain about life and make an excuse not to do anything and mooch off of others. It's like how everybody has a 'narcissistic' parent when they really mean they hate their family or have interpersonal issues. Anybody can be 'depressed' on the internet, and it's a shame because it just stigmatizes people who are actually suffering from this shit because of these clowns.
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I like Drac (more than I like other altcows, at least) but her Instagram captions make me cringe
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Jude is now sucking up to Kaya despite fangirling Jake in every post he makes. Interesting.
Jake keeping it classy for his teen fans, as usual>>874698
Dorian is mentally still a 16 year old. Living with mummy at 35, sleeping all day and writing vampires stories at night with no direction or responsibility in her life. She uses her aspergers as an excuse but she's choosing a selfish lifestyle of perpetual teenhood at home. I never pay her opinions too much notice cos she has no life experience
When you look at the reality of where she is at (in her mid thirties) it's a pretty pathetic life
>>874753>I am growing to really distaste Dorian.
Wow, you really held out there! This is one I've avoided for a long, long time because nothing she's ever said wasn't a load of bollocks.
Most of these alt cows I read about with a smirk on my face, but there's absolutely flap all about her that's enjoyable to watch.
I agree completely. I actually tend to like Dorian's videos. But in this one he misses the point completely. Those forms of "female privilege" are actually just manifestations of the patriachy. It's not a privilege to be judged on your looks just because you're doing better by it. Men not being able to do dress up and not being allowed to show emotion is a sign of toxic
masculinity. It never seems to occur to him that this is a system we could actually get rid of, rather than exploit it for short-term and superficial gain.
Like I said, I've enjoyed his content in the past. But this is some shallow bullshit. I'm pretty sure anyone saying so will be dismissed as an "angru intolerant feminist" though. He's mentioned in the past that his dad is very mysoginistic, so maybe that rubbed off a little.
Lots of trans people aren't on hormones and don't get surgery for a variety of reasons such as medical, financial, or because being openly trans could be dangerous for them. That doesn't make you any less trans. Nor does the way you dress or present. A cis guy wearing makeup would still be a guy, and the same goes for a trans guy. There isn't some official level of butch you have to reach to be trans.
As for Dorian, I honestly don't know about him. He might be trans, and he might just be an attention whore. I mean, relating to trans identity, he's obviously an attention whore regarding most things. Either way, I just prefer to call people by their chosen pronouns, even if that person is being a cunt.
Why the fuck do you care what pronouns people choose to use? Are you just being a contrarian edgelord? Or do you genuinly get your panties in a twist if somebody uses a word you find triggering
Pretty much >>874476
said it all. He just wants attention. He wasn't getting attention as a simple Chav/Metalhead (most likely because his personality sucks and his music is shit) so he tried piggybacking on the Goth scene thinking that because he wears black and creepy makeup, it was enough when he's just being a big fat poser and can't handle when people call him (or Kaya) out on it. It doesn't help that teenagers who don't know shit are taking what he says as Gospel but it is what it is, I'm just content that he's only ever gonna appeal to teenagers and middle schoolers and that actual Goths, we think of him as a big fat joke.>>874646
And the thing is yes, depression sucks but even in a situation like IBF or Drac Maken's, doing something creative to make income is not a strenuous thing. Drac's excuse pissed me off more as an artist myself. If I had the oppurtunity to just work on making art for income knowing there will be people who'd be interested, I would so be taking advantage of that because at least the difference between making art in the comfort of your own home vs a public job that is busy nonstop, at least the former is your own space and quiet. She has no excuse, she could've just worked on one art thing a day or every other day and could've made some income back.>>874695
Maybe it's part of her scheme? Get in good with the girlfriend, then get invited to stay with them for a day or two and she jumps Jake's pasty bones lol.>>874750
You're right anon. This is why I don't get people who keep telling her to leave him. It's been what…? 4 or 5 years now? If she didn't leave him then, she's not gonna leave him ever. Hell, I bet that even if he does cheat on her, she'll still stay with him. The only way they'd ever break up is if Jake breaks up with her to pursue one of his fangirls. She's a grown adult almost 30, she made her bed and now she'll have to lie in it. >>874782
Transtrenders aren't real because transgender is nothing but pseudo science. But uh yeah, especially with Dorian, just… Don't humor her. She doesn't even attempt to look remotely stereotypically boyish.
Maybe she wants to fuck them both>>874753
I agree 100% with you. Wanted to add that this opinion, coming from her, makes next to zero sense. She is a traditionally good looking woman, she fits in the mold perfectly. She has a nice face, is skinny, well proportioned… She also uses the thing she calls "female privilege" all the time! Goes out in very revealing outfits showing her breasts, legs, etc. Literally showing her breasts, minus the nipples. I'm not saying that this is wrong in any way, but to say that this is female privilege
and that she doesn't have this because she's not of the female gender… makes zero sense. She's literally a pretty girl making pretty photos and looking pretty in videos on the internet. Nothing wrong with that, but she DOES take part in it, it's undeniable.
It seems to me that just because she doesn't fit into the stereotypical mainstream female image she thinks she must be a man. Look, no one barely does, Dorian! That's why these stereotypes are limitating, dangerous, etc. You're not a man for not reaching maximum pontuation at "being a woman" as stablished by society (and ourselves, as we end up internalizing shit). Sad shit>>874782
THANK YOU. We're not even discussing the whole transgender thing, it's just clear that DORIAN is someone very lost, who because she doesn't fit the ideal women image, she finds comfort in denying the issue, which is the society etc etc (i won't delve into this)>>874788
Look, I won't call her Jenny and that's about it.
Don't forget she also bought something that accentuates her breasts. She bought it back when she was "fat" but she was really happy to wear it and I'm sure she still feels that way today. Dorian is a self-absorbed loon but even I can admit that she is a pretty woman and is benefiting from "female privilege" and is just using the fact that she's alternative as a means to say she doesn't fit the mold when she does, just on a different end.
And yeah, I won't be surprised if Dorian finally comes to her senses when she's in her 40s and realizes that not conforming to gender expectations doesn't make her a man (also when she starts naturally aging like a woman).
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I hope that ship never sails>>874863>not conforming to gender expectations doesn't make her a man
Dorian is milking the transgender shtick for attention. She ain't trans like >>874782
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hasn't Jake talked countless times about how you should always be yourself and never let people bring you down etc etc
but then once he realized that cringe tik tok reaction videos made him youtube bucks he all of a sudden has no problem making fun of people
yup, but it's totally ok to make fun of ~normies~ and ppl he doesn't deem goth or alt or whatever he's bitching about, but no one has the authority to tell him what he is/isn't.
she probably doesn't do them any more but he should react to kaya's tik toks, i saw some ppl mentioning it in the comments that he completely ignored.
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Oh man, I wish Magdalene Berns was still alive, I would love to see her response to this. At least some people are making good points though.
isn't she just helping at the merch table? i saw she was hyping herself on ig about making 'custom' shirts which was her literally just cutting them up and that's nothing new or unique. she wants so much credit for her 'diy' when it's basic stuff.
her shilling for dollskill is also annoying.
That would be fucking hilarious.>>875064
Thanks for the hurt anon, it's still such a shame that Magdalen is no longer with us, she would've tore Dorian a new one if she saw this video (well maybe… Do you think Magdalen would've made a video response to this?)
Yes; she was selling merch for Stellar Corpses and hawking her ~customized~ Stellar Corpses shirts while handing out stickers with her face on them.
It did seem like there was some weird tension between her and the band which makes me super curious about what she said on her story.
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And you are…? Post proof. This is an image board.
Anons - sage your shit if you have no milk and stop blogposting
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Looks like Mai is making bank on more "preloved" stuff. Because thrifting items and then shipping them across the world is way more sustainable than just having people thrift nearby. How else are they going to get a dusty burgundy sack?
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place bets how long this will last
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I'm glad she finally figured out what to wear to set foot in a gym
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yea dollskill hasn't really been looked kindly upon, there's hashtag on twitter to boycott them with plenty of receipts why but of course ppl ignore those things when they get sent free shit.>>875752
who wants to sacrifice their ears for this? i hope it gets hit for copyright and is taken down, come up with your own material you spooky potato.
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You did not sage. I don't think that anon was talking to JUST you because we seem to have a lot of lurking newbies that don't sage their posts.
The cover was fucking horrific. Sounds like a kid taking the piss out of the melodrama. Honestly, I went into it open minded (haven’t listened to Jake’s other stuff), I thought okay, maybe this dude really does care and works hard on this one thing (singing).
Nope. I’m genuinely surprised at how much worse it is than I thought. He’s OFF BEAT, he can’t even sing the right parts in time with the music, he adds these weird vocal strains that should be a joke. To go on about his connect to the band and a guy who killed himself to give this cover clout is really really disgusting. Jake is past saving and irredeemably narcissistic if he thinks his “singing” doesn’t need an incredible amount of work.
I'll be generous and give her a week. >>875900
It's kind of typical of these cows. First it was Avelina De Moray and now you can add Jake to the deluded cows who think they can sing.
not surprised, he went on ig to humble brag about how he 'nailed' the voice and failed anyway. being off beat is embarrassing, especially when he claims to be so into the band. just stop dude.>>875977
oh yea, she probably only wanted to be on it if jakey boy could take pix so she could show everyone. she got that electric skateboard, used it a couple of times and hasn't talked about it since. she also made a big deal out of finding 'cute spooky' things for the gym and winds up in a generic looking all black outfit.
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This is just pure speculation and I’m not even sure anyone would care about this but I may have stumbled upon the reason why ReeRee Philips is so tight lipped about her divorce.
I think him and ReeRee broke up sometime in April and here’s a post about him moving in with a 20 year old normie in July.
Here’s where the tinfoil goes on; was he cheating on ReeRee with this normie?
There has to be an overlap because 2 months seems too short of a time to fall in love and move in with someone after leaving your family imo.
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Angela weighing in on Jake. To see the context look up Elitist Joe on Facebook, he makes a post about Jake being a poseur.
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Comparing Jake to Repose
But this isnt the case with Jakey boy, because he still says he hates goth music to this day>>876280
Unfortunately probably not because she probably doesnt want to start drama, but that would be awesome of she did>>876286>at least hes not social repose
True, but thats like saying getting your kneecaps shattered is still not as bad as getting your eyes gouged out
I was referring to Reeree's ex husband, not Jake>>876305
I didn't but I did see the photo you're talking about. Have they broken up or does she just not want to involve him on her social media?
Anon WHY did you have to tell me, I had to look it up out of curiosity… Only made it a minute through, but my quality of life is permanently lowered.>>876277
I dont have a facebook, is there any way it could be screenshotted?
Someone already did further up, see here >>876284
and here >>876291
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From Jake’s YT channel.
“Working so hard on this channel” is he serious? The most time consuming parts of his videos are doing his shitty makeup and some editing. It’s not even close to the full-time hours I imagine real youtubers put into multiple projects. Get a grip.
I thought so too anon, she probably whined at him that everyone is saying they don't seem into each other and he never shows her affection
Kaya, we're not falling for this. Dump the fat jerk already
I'm surprised he has kept this video up, it's pretty incriminating
says he hates goths, they're all elitist dicks and also appears to suggest simply wearing black makes one a goth. NOW he insists that he is one… maybe we finally have some self awareness and he's admitting he's a dick? kek
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Lmao I just watched it. She’s basically bonging on her piano and making 2 week constipated faces at the camera while wheezing in an attempt to make her voice sound dark and husky. Also her outfits are confusing me.
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Samefagging but I tried to get a good cap of this particular ensemble…she’s wearing some strappy top/corset thingie with her boobs hanging out. It’s really weird.
lmao what is that face?
What Offspring song is she attempting to sing?
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The Behind the Scenes (kek) is even better because it’s obvious she’s not a musician and doesn’t know what she’s doing. She tries to blame the tempo of the song for her being unable to hold her notes or whatever.
Her and jake would make the perfect pair! Both epic musicians that know better than actual musicians and it’s the always the songs fault!
I always wonder how idiots like this are so popular online but people who have good content are not?
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This is what she's wearing.
Anything to make those tiddies pop kek.
Of you want a short version of the video/singing(?), look at her Instagram. Without sound you’ll be confused as fuck as to what is going on as she goes from smacking the piano keys to feeling up velvet cloth, laying in down in her lingerie brand.
With sound, you’ll cry as you won’t know who’s worse between her or jake
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Gotta love the pinned comment on that video.
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I didn’t see this posted
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fuck off Jake you inbred fat troll who clearly lurks here
You CLEARLY stated in that video you hate GOTHS THEMSELVES and GOTH MUSIC and that GOTHS are ALL elitist dicks. You did NOT specifically state you only hate elitism.
I also see that both he and Kaya like to use The Cure as an example of a "goth band" they like to avoid any criticism topfuckingkek, you're not fooling anyone Jakey boy. We know you only like bad metal music and not a single goth tune
She has one of the most unfortunate looking faces I have ever seen.
What exactly do her and her husband do to afford their home and lifestyle anyways? Apart from her overpriced tat on her website
Yeah people post like this all the time, and it's usually stuff like "kaya is overweight, Jake is an asshole and ignores her".
If you can't substantiate anything then don't bother.
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The stories she uploaded sound worse than her recent cover imo.
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I mean yeah, this was posted before but it never stops being funny that she said "I don't like talking about myself or burdening others with my bullshit."
Girl, that's it. That's all you do. There's nothing else. That's what IBF is.
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There's a drag queen named Louisiana Purchase on this season of Dragula and he's basically Avelina.
I don't even get why he wants to call himself goth. At least Kaya is "darkly inclined" but Jake isn't even that. His fashion/make up that he wears doesnt really look goth either, he just looks like a crackhead joker wannabe.
I also don't think all of these goths (oops I mean "elitist cunts") really care that much when someone identifies as goth who isn't. They just dont like someone taking that label and trying using it on everything they post as if they represent goth. Like naming all of his videos goth reacts to, goth does this, goth does that.
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Looks like ReeRees ex has maybe split from his new girl. All pics of her are deleted on his IG. Like I know it's not my business and like I'm sure they had good reasons for splitting up but they seemed like an attractive and happy couple . Maybe him and reeree will get back together, idk.
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laying in bed is full time work, guys
I completely understand what you're going through Kaya. I realize that uploading an unboxing last week was super stressful, and taking a few days off is well deserved.
In the meantime, enjoy laying down and tweeting about how bored/tired you always are,or just dress up your skeleton, 'Josephine'. It shouldn't be too hard to dig some (trash) outfit from your hoard pile of freebies.
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I know Ruadhan isn't super milky like some of our regulars, but his sm is just so damn entertaining because it's like he's talking to himself and constantly trying to create drama where there is none.
Spoilering because it's kind of a gross tweet and the mental image is just nasty.
"Have you considered being a productive member of society?"
"lol fuck no"
Shut the fuck up you twat (not you anon, Jake's pretentious comment). The Goth scene is not full of elitists, there are some but they don't get all that much attention. He's just whining on about how he's upset that real Goths don't consider him Goth because he doesn't like the music. Well tough titties, if you don't like Goth music, you're not a Goth. It's as simple as that. Eugh… I seriously hope someone puts him on blast one of these days.>>876459
Wanna know even better? While The Cure are a respected band within the Goth scene, not all of their work was Goth and how much you wanna bet that the songs they do like are not even their Goth ones? I'm pretty sure it's their singles like "Just like Heaven" or "Boys Don't Cry" or "Love Cats" or "Friday I'm in Love" or any other non-Goth song of theirs. >>876526
Exactly this. I've noticed this as well with a few people who claim to like Goth music but then the only band they mention is the Cure and it's at a point where I just nod and go "Mhm…" I'm at a point where I think that if they only name the Cure as their favorite "Goth" band, I don't take them too seriously because a lot of the time, they only like their pop songs and they don't realize that not all of the Cure's work was Goth as they did dabble with other genres as well. >>876660
My guess is that perhaps he did go to a Goth club once. That or went to online Goth forums. Either way he most likely had a run-in with actual Goths and when he tried to showcase what music he liked (Metal) and the Goths were like "Okay cool, what Goth bands do you like?" or something like that. >>876769
Yep, he's pretty much the new Social Repose with how he's mislabeling his shit as "Goth" content. >>876940
Eh some do but we won't really say anything and would rather they just see on their own that they're not doing themselves any favors calling themselves something they aren't. >>876941
Agreed. If she wasn't trying so hard to be a Goff and just owned up as an Alternative person who just likes Rock music, she wouldn't be as cringy. She's mostly only cringy to Goths and possibly Metalheads, I'm sure "normies" would find her cool.>>877125
Whatever helps you sleep at night dear…
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Here's the rest of her commemt.
"My mental health has been so much better this past couple of months" even though she has still been complaining about everything nonstop these past few months? Okay then.
A while back, possibly even as late as last fall, I was watching their MAG/twitch stream live and someone commented in the live chat and said to them both they would they were willing to be supporter of kaya alone via patreon but didn’t feel comfortable to do so because she didn’t use her spare time to do anything productive like volunteering etc. They didn’t mention Jake at all, He accused them of being arrogant and that they can’t tell someone what to do. Kaya immediately accused them of being salty and that she wouldn’t want a patreon supporter who had their attitude. That person literally defended themselves a bit and then stopped commenting altogether because of kayas reaction, she really came down hard on them and told them to stop watching if they had a problem with how she lived her life. I really enjoyed MAG and TT until I saw that reaction, she was obviously ashamed of herself and scared her followers would think the same of her. I did too, I felt so embarrassed because it was true. It was an eye opener for sure that she just wants to sit at home and watch Netflix without having to work for anything. She’s done it all her life I guess. They both rely on handouts and have been able to get shit sent that they need like a TV without even having to leave their house to get it. I think that’s why Kaya deserves the hate she gets here, it all ridicules her victim
mentality and how frustrating it is that she doesn’t do anything for herself and isn’t willing to try. Jake has more patreons than her and is getting more views, he was the best part of MAG and it doesn’t surprise me as he puts way more effort into being a content creator than Kaya despite his own shitty outlook and begging. They are a sad case man
what exactly does Kaya have to be stressed about? a part time job would be great for her. a couple hours a week actually contributing to society and not being a dole scab.
I really can't wait until everyone loses interest in her and she makes less money than she does now. I'm so curious to see what she'll do to get money, because it sure as fuck won't be working
maybe I'm just in the minority here but I'm bipolar and having a job has helped me a lot.
yeah sometimes it can be shitty and if I'm left at home longer than a couple of years I just completely spiral. I think Kaya needs to go out and talk to other people besides jake and feel like she's doing something important in the world. I actually think shes been unemployed and stuck in her house so long she has agoraphobia(blog)
wow what the fuck
*but if I'm left in my home for a couple of days I spiral
Exactly. I understand she might be paralysed by her own depression. Part of depression is often not being able to do the things that you know are good for you. But she also does nothing to improve her situation. She doesn't even awknowledge that her lifestyle is a significant part of the problem. I would have sympathy for her if she admitted that she needs to make some changes but is struggling to do so. But no, she seems to think what she's doing is fine and depression is just this force she has no control over.
Nobody asks for depression. But you have a choice to manage it or not.
Can't she be a productive member of society, by at least doing some charity work?
Since she's such an ~animal lover~, why doesn't she volunteer at an animal shelter? Or is that too much to ask for?
Kek at a job making her feel X10 worse. Flash news Kaya, l doubt anyone enjoys working either, but you're such an entitled brat, you can't possibly understand.
So, to all anons who think that Jake is burdening her, at least he puts way more effort in his channel and makes music (despite both being shit-tier). She's so useless and lazy, it's infuriating.
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>>877813>TT lashes out at angela and wants her to make an apology>Angela says no unless Jake retracts the stuff he said about goth
good, he shouldn't get to shit on a scene and then constantly try to profit off it by titling his videos with goth and pretending to invent new kinds of looks or whatever to keep using it. he said what he meant and meant what he said, she shouldn't backpedal just b/c he's dating someone she was internet friends with.
also i didn't see the sc post on twitter, if kaya had that much of a problem with what was said, why not message her directly? these two are such cowards, they talk mad shit online while complaining about how ppl comment but not to their faces.
Right?! Kaya is so fucking immature. I already knew she was immature, but god damn, she's worse than I thought. Screenshotting Angela's comment and publicly shitting on her instead of reaching out to her is immature. Demanding an apology from Angela when she knows damn well the shitty things Jake said about goths is immature. Angela only said what she said because Jake had been such an asshole about goths. This honestly reminds me of the time her and IBF bullied that clothing company for a screenshot that someone took of the woman who owned the company's private facebook account. IBF and Kaya both have massive victim
complexes, no wonder they're friends. Maybe this is armchairing but I strongly feel that Kaya was very coddled/sheltered as a child.>>877826
Seriously. It's like he can do no wrong in her eyes.>>877828
He's been mentioned here before. Definitely a cow but he's such a terrible person that I honestly prefer to not even think about him.
I like Angela but some times I don't really understand her.
In her most recent livestream someone asked if gothic metal existed, and she said she didn't really know, and that someone who listens to metal would be more fit to answer that question. But in this video someone asked the same question and she said gothic metal doesn't exist and that "just because you put the word gothic in front of it doesn't make it gothic". Except there are bands like Tristania that are metal but do have a gothic sound.
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I didn't post it because l thought it's just dumb and boring. Idk why she keeps rehashing this joke.
She is so shallow, and it shows that apart from sharing her OTT looks, or (messed up) life updates, she really has nothing of value to talk about/show.
Let's face it, even if she went vegan her diet would probably consist only of Oreos and an occasional peanut butter sandwich.>>877867
I think she might think she's making a joke here, but it isnt funny at all. Not offensive either really, just obnoxious.
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Someone speculated on an older thread if Jake might possibly be abusive
towards her. There's no evidence of this as far as I'm aware but Jake clearly has anger issues (both he and Kaya have said this before) so it wouldn't surprise me if she's scared of him and just says/does what he wants to not be on the receiving end of his angry rants and tantrums
Yeah not surprised. Only normies are the ones who would find her or just the cows in general interesting whereas people within the music scenes are more like "meh" or don't think they're great. >>877335
I think it's fair to say a lot of people have anxiety, depression, etc. I admittedly have social anxiety around large groups of people and do suffer from depression but I do get the sentiment. It's one thing to have it and another to use it as sympathy points to get money or attention. The only Goth channel I can recall who didn't dwell on their depression (or bring it up from what I'm aware of) is Accumortis though he's not really active since he was in university. And I know Radically Dark has mentioned it before but she doesn't dwell on it and continues making content while working her IRL job. >>877360
I never watched MAG but holy crap, had no idea about that but not surprised. I think that the only time they'll get aggressive is when people put their shit on blast and may be a beacon of logic towards others who may not realize that Kaya is just a lazy schlub who doesn't want to do anything except sit on her ass and watch Netflix while moaning about how "stressful" her life is and continue to get chump money from her gullible fans and Jake is a poser try hard who's music sucks. The only thing he has over Kaya is he does seem to have somewhat of a work ethic seeing how he uploads even if his content is shit. >>877365
Same here anon. I'm very curious how she's gonna be when the money starts decreasing as more people get tired of her laziness.>>877373
Yeah I think it's the equivalent of pretty privileged. Back when she was skinny and decent looking, no one would bother thinking ill of her but now that she lost her looks, people started seeing her for who she truly is. It's almost like her outsides now match her insides which is gluttonous lazy ass who complains a lot.
Same, I'm actually happy Angela stuck to her convictions instead of keeling over. Jake doesn't deserve shit after what he's said about Goth scene. Why would she apologize when everything she said was true? Kaya and Jake are deluded.>>877826
I was there in the livestream when he said all that. The backlash was amazing as a lot Goths called him out. It was definitely not Jake's best moment and that's why it's hilarious he still calls himself a Goth when the internet never forgets.>>877828
Is Social Repose even active anymore? I haven't seen his videos pop up in my news feed, it's mostly just Jake with the GOFF reaction videos lol.>>877833
Unless she means people calling bands like Evanescence or Lacuna Coil as "Gothic Metal", yeah I don't get that because it is a real genre. The only thing is it's not a Goth genre, it's a Metal sub-genre.>>877961
It does. But the main thing Gothic Metal does that separates it from regular Heavy Metal is how it adds in classical bits (mostly the Piano) while following a Doom Metal-like pattern.
Jake is clearly narcissistic and wants the praise and worship, I really hope this is the only reason why he tweets such disgusting shit, but surely he MUST know the main age range of his audience? I think he posts the overly sexual stuff to feel better about himself and isn't actually into children/young teens but who knows… I hope that's not the case because the guy is disgusting enough as it is. I hadn't actually seen the "then I get naked and nut into a flesh light" comment before, fucking vile. Does Kaya not see this and feel totally disrespected??>>877982
kek I think they're actually about the same height, but maybe she could just sit on him
I don't know if he is abusive
to her or not. And if it is, I don't know if it's physical or emotional. But either way, her being taller, or even stronger than him doesn't mean that he can't be abusive
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Damn, Kaya's always been a sweetheart, huh? Too lazy and/or depressed to ever get a fucking job. But if you need her to ruin someone else's source of income she's suddenly full of energy. Our brave internet warrior gorl. This was in a reply to someone who had a run in with kaya and their little fans who bitched him out for daring to criticize anything about Jake.
This asshole never talks to anyone she has a problem with. Never tries to resolve anything, never tries to see if there was a misunderstanding. She's immediately screaming on every social platform about how she's been terribly wronged.
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But wait anon, there's more. I saw that comment too and it's part of a convo that's pretty interesting. 1/4
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Oof almost forgot 4/4
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Well, some shithead already jumped down her throat. Sounds like a kid too.
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Adrian the tattoed guy is the real deal. I'm glad some people are seeing through their bullshit.
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Sorry about the multiple posts.
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Samefag here; l'm sorry about the spam.
So many people have been very critical. Such a refreshing thing to read, because l was damn annoyed with all the ass kissing from his ''snaccs''.
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I didn't know that Avelina reached out to TT for a collab. Clout chaser very much.
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Some more comments, even Coal Candy joined the party.
>>878172>also many metal bands look goth
kek so what? What does this even matter or prove? LOOKING goth and actually BEING one are two different things. Jake/Kaya's fans really are brain dead tweens>>878193
I knew about this. Years ago TT had put out a video where she mentioned it, asking for suggestions on the colour of the interior of the bag (at that time she was going through one of her forest obsessed phases so she was wanting a forest green colour) but then suddenly nothing was ever heard again about the collab. I always assumed TT dropped the idea because Reeree had also dropped out, something about not getting much of the profits I believe? So I thought TT was worried about not getting much money out of it, if it turns out she just ghosted Avelina then it further goes to show she can't even resolve issues with people like a normal ADULT
Also don't worry for spamming anon, it's refreshing to see so many people feel the same way
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I didn't post the wk comments before l spammed quite a lot already. There was one other wk that wrote essays to defend the toxic
two, but someone retaliated very well. >>878255
I'm sorry about that. Only things allowed are asskissing, or donating. >>878245
Is she already preparing the ground for her next move, i.e dropping the workout? >>878080
Top kek anon. Can't wait to read her tweet about that.
Oh wow. Just because you're not held to the same standards as a traditional media advertiser doesn't make it any less sleazy. Especially since Emily (and a lot of other youtubers) go out of their way to cultivate a relationship with their audience in which their subscribers put a lot of trust in them, and sometimes even view the youtuber as someone they know. That's really shitty of her. And just because Jude is nice to you to your face doesn't mean she isn't a transphobic poser.
It is sometimes hard to call out Emily without sounding like you're Raven. Raven makes Emily (and pretty much anyone) look like "the decent one" by comparison, because she is such a dumpster fire. And her many shennanigans have really muddied the waters.
Yea, I mean I don't entirely disagree with everything
she said in the video - she admits to jumping on the Spooky Box Club bandwagon in the past but doesn't think they're worth it, she now says she doesn't like Killstar anymore, she's bored of unboxing videos and she even said TT and IBF need to quit with the constant Killstar hauls - so credit where credit's due I guess, at least she can call them out for it (although she likes TT, I wonder if Kaya will be butthurt after watching that)>>878359
kek not surprising at all. Did anyone download and save it by any chance?
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I feel like this person is probably referring to Angela?
It really is pathetic that these people worship faux gofficks and not actual, genuine goths like Angela and others
True, but with the "falling asleep to the same thing" comment I think she is referencing Angela's "What goth was like in the 90s" videos which she does churn out a lot of. Though I admit I've never watched Adora so I don't know what kind of videos she puts out? I've only seen thumbnails for makeup tutorials and vlogs in the past
Also a correction, I don't mean people should be worshipping Angela/others, no YouTuber should be worshipped obviously. I just think if people are going to watch "goth youtubers" it should be her or other legit goths
>>878137>the toxic giant
that's my fav new nickname for kaya. >>878172
if jakey boy can talk about whatever he want then so can everyone else. these ppl are so brain dead they just scream on their keyboards without realizing what they're saying.>>878195
i like this adrian dude, pls come talk shit with us here you are cracking me up. >>878359
way to prove yourself a coward jakey fakey, deleting the video doesn't change facts and when the spooky thing isn't pulling in the views or cash as much as you want it to, you'll be hopping onto something else that does.
When that happens he'll probably go on a rant about how "goth is too toxic
" and he's just too edgy for us, so we were mean to him.
To think that I once thought she was cool after seeing her in that Snog, Marry, Avoid episode, she seemed like someone who knew what Goth was actually about and an engaging person but then she starts YouTube and you see she's just a poser and is just like these other cows. Why is it that these people get so much attention? Lazy people with crappy content that will only appeal to teenagers. Guess I answered my own question but I just find it interesting how EB, TT, Jake, Bishop, and these other various cows don't really have much of an actual Goth following for the obvious. >>878345
How is Jude "Transphobic"?>>878359
Ooooh I hope someone archived that video (most likely not, he's a nobody in the grand scheme of things) but seriously, he only did it because Angela did mention it and he doesn't want his fans to see the truth. >>878363
What other content would they do? They have shown they have no real interests lol.>>878397
It most likely was Angela. Adore is not a real Goth neither, she's just a cow like the rest of these Goffs. >>878397
Nah I understand you anon. Angela is not a god but she's a real, genuine Goth YouTuber and really the only one with a a decent sized following. Accumortis, Cadaver Kelly, Kai Decadence, Radically Dark, SkullGirdle, Cemetery Confessions, Rose Nocturnalia, and Country Fried Goth are great channels and are actual Goths who do care about the scene and share things relevant to it but they have no where near the amount of viewership Angela managed to build up. Not that there's anything wrong with that, especially since a lot of these people don't make YouTube their fulltime job and I still appreciate the times when they do upload but Angela is really the only actual Goth who is pretty known and it's good that we finally have an actual well known Gothtuber who is not a fake/poser like TT, Jake, Jude, and EB.
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Kaya's neck is swallowing her choker. And she's still trying to make josephine happen.
From the PULL thread:
I don't like her anymore, I don't. She was coming off as a nice young lady who just wanted people to be kind, now I think she's a manipulated woman child. I don't know her history before youtube so I'm only going off what I've seen, through her videos and facebook posts while I was following her. Once she came back from being denied entry to the uk, she seemed different. But I feel she was just looking for a way out of her current living situation. I don't have screenshots unfortunately but, she tried pulling another e-begging stunt to get her back to Germany because while it was Mr Owl's birthday, she was a miserable sod who just thought about her own happiness. She quickly deleted that gofundme post when someone called her out for "begging". And when the post of her being in the new relationship hit fb, she couldn't handle the banter and took to youtube so her followers could put her in a hug box so she didn't have to face reality. She should've just made a private video/post to the REAL people that were a part of her life. She was told she couldn't enter a museum because of her over the top look and again took to youtube so they would harass them into apologizing to her. And she can blame her being goth for her being denied entry into the UK, when and where is that a thing? To be banned for your looks?? You only get banned from entry anywhere if you did something illegal or just that fucked up, some are saying she overstayed her visa or something, idk that at all and I don't have the know how to find that out, but her saying she was banned because of her gothness is bullsht. I saw nothing wrong with her ex husband Matthias, he seemed like a lovely young man. And yes it did come off to me as her using the marriage for residency, but again I can't confirm. In one of her old videos she talks about how many times she was engaged (multiple times) just gives me the impression she likes to keep a man or 2 as a backup with how fast she went from Owl to Matthias. She also needs to realize that the majority of her followers are tweeners and like it or not to any youtuber, you are an infulencer to your younger viewers and you need to act responsibly. Sidenote, she left a sour taste in my mouth when she admitted she was an onision fan (red flag). I see her as a conniving little shit yet says "Be nice to each other" as if that's her excuse to be an online idiot. HER MOTHER, a real piece of work, she needs to stop coming to her GROWN daughter's defense, and I'm certain she's the reason she acts as irresponsible as she is and thinks life is a fairytale. As soon as she was engaged to Matthias her mommy was arguing with people in the comments, she shouldn't have encouraged her daughter to get married so fast. The mother goes as far as to look for people commenting about owl and she responds about how unfunny and what a nobody he was, yet when the marriage ended and she was back with owl, suddenly she just spewed her venom at matthias (crazy btch) It's so discomforting how she goes from one c*ck to another so quickly, try being single. And I agree she has become a basic bitch, doing unboxings, reaction videos, reading hate comments, etc., get your own ideas like you used to. She's made a post about owls gf he had after they broke up trying to be a typical passive aggressive twat trying to say she was copying her look, when they look quite different, and acted like a wounded animal that people were rallying around her (again mommy stepped in to fight the internet) And back to her 'being mistreated for being goth' it comes with the territory, in one of her hate comment videos, she said she's glad she scares people….but then cries when she's refused entry, to any goth/alternative person out there, it's not going to kill you to turn your look down a notch. So picture this if you will; her saying "Good that's the point I like that I scared you" to her crying saying "I don't know why this keeps happening" while leaving the museum. She admitted to being "afraid of toothpaste" so she used children's toothpaste……and wondered why she had teeth shattering out of her mouth. She needs a good punch upside the head, and it's scary that she has so many followers that she uses more as an echo chamber than a fanbase. I tried watching her again and she barely uploads and they just turned into her gaining sympathy for her not wanting to upload. She needs to take a few years off the internet, but she wants those paypigs though. tl;dr, she's a crazy undisciplined spoiled brat who needs to grow up, and mommy needs to be put in a home.
has anyone else pointed out that the name of the anatomical skeleton in The Wallflower (manga about an agoraphobic horror enthusiast with low self-esteem who has a male harem move in with her and transform her into a beautiful goff qween despite her putting absolutely zero effort into the transformation and actively resisting their attempts to improve her life because she wants to be a lazy NEET all day instead) is also Josephine?
Now that I recount the plot of the comic, I realize why she relates to the main character…
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I was about to refer to that manga when she posted about Josephine on ig, but thought it might be irrelevant to bring it up.
Maybe TT will be bold enough to e-beg for the other two spoopy mannequins, i.e Akira and Hiroshi.
It's pretty annoying to see these weebs wanting to live the animu life while other dummies pay for it.
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Long time watcher of these threads, especially altcows. I'm here for the toxic
twosome with a side of black friday. I've been wanting to ask something but haven't wanted to deal with the "hi raven" comments that are sure to follow but why the heck not, I'll ask anyhow.
I keep seeing comments here and there about raven being the worst there is.I want to know why y'all feel like that because (no wk) I don't see it. I used to watch her back in her greasy fat days when she was more a cow than she is now. From what I see she doesn't do anything these other cows do. She was in a disgusting age inappropriate marriage that ended years ago. She was a debatably bad mom to her kid, and I say debatably just because her son was kinda a douche. So was his girlfriend. Logan wasn't anything special either. We can debate all day on how much of this is her fault but the point is she isn't in their lives and hasn't been for years. She doesn't ebeg aside from I think 3x that I personally remember. She's never called herself goth and she doesn't influence impressionable kids like tt and jakey do. Don't get me wrong I'm all for calling a cow a cow but with her I'm genuinely stumped as to why y'all give her so much credit and treat her like the top of the line when she doesn't even do anything close to what these other cows do, and anything that made her an active cow was years ago. Why even give her so much attention? She doesn't deserve it and I don't mean that in a because she's a good person way. I mean she's boring now. She married an age appropriate guy and they lived in a shack and there's a debate about if she kills animals or hoards them or just discards them with no proof like we ask for from everyone else. That's about all the milk I've seen lately and even that's reaching. She always seemed to me to be upfront about everything she did wrong and addressed everything she knew was said about her so I did always give her props for that at least. No hate, I'm genuinely wanting to know why she deserves the title of the worst or most hated cow. I didn't want to post this in her threat because I don't want to open it up for one question. I just decided to ask after seeing these comments on Emilys thing which tbh I'm glad to see because to me she's been a cow for a very long time. Her and Chuck Stegall need more posts here, as much as I love seeing what greedy selfish assholes the toxic
twosome are, it's time for new stuff. And before you tell me to start it I have but no one cares. It's always back to the same cows and the same complaints kek
1. No1curr what some rando said on PULL
2. You could have posted a screenshot seeing as this is an imageboard instead of that wall of text, but alright I guess
when you know you're going out with ppl who will probably take candids so paint your neck to pretend you have a jawline instead of a thumb face. this must look hilarious in person.
he put up another lazy tik tok reaction video and definitely laughed but lied and said he didn't. might just be me but they weren't even that funny. someone in the comments said they were heartbroken he has a gf, lol.
Probably saw on the video analytics that views/clicks were coming from the vid being linked here in a previous post>>876424
Anybody have a mirror of the video?
Section of Jake Munro's deleted video where he hates gothhttps://anonymousfiles.io/ILFrkEnC/
Can't watch it online but you can download it there
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He probably deleted it because of the sudden influx thanks to Angela's vid (l bet he heard of it too) and did some damage control.
On his social blade profile, it doesn't look like he lost any subs. A shame.
It's fiction brought to life! Well sorta… Kaya doesn't have a harem lol
Just switch harem for her Patreon supporters haha.>>878478
Exactly. Is she even remotely into actual Wicca or just pop Witch ala American Horror Story Coven edge girl? And I think the reason why she isn't called out or brought up all that much is because she doesn't seem to e-beg as much as the other two cows. >>878576
Thanks anon, much appreciated. He thinks he's slick but as they say, "the internet never forgets."
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Leave it to Ho-dora to make mammograms slutty and taking selfies
Sorry but either you are Raven or have read very
little about her. I've been following her since the beginning and everything you're saying there is no proof of THERE IS, from the cow's own mouth no less. You are absolutely wrong about her on all points. You say why give her attention but NO ONE here has? It's literally you bringing her up now that is giving her any attention>>878452>>878596
She's not even a horror enthusiast either, has admitted she hasn't even seen the classic horror films (I doubt she's seen many at all)>>878602
Nice obviously fake clip on bangs Ho-dora…
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EB is another cow that steals tattoos. She copied the scissors from Rosie. Didn't she make a video in the past bashing people who stole tattoos?
I mean in fairness the scissors look a little different and the tattoo is placed slightly differently, but even so that's still quite the resemblance. Do you know how long Rosie has had that tattoo? I know EB has had hers for a while so I'd be curious who got it first…
Also what the actual fuck is up with TT and her skeleton? (I refuse to refer to it as Josephine) It makes her look fucking insane talking to/about it as if it's a real person. How is this any different to if she was pretending to talk to an imaginary friend on camera? It's fucking bizarre to me
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I don't know if you remember Reverie, (mentioned in a previous thread for calling out ibf on her stupid banner saying she uploads thrice a week).
She commented again, beautiful, as usual.
Proud to see some people who have brains and represent the community well, and not by talking like a 12y.o and using curse words as punctuation to prove their (wrong) point.
i mean, they brought it up in the context of emily boo (who doesn't have her own thread but she and raven used to have a…correspondance? of some kind) but if you want to actually discuss who raven is or why people don't like her then there are extensive
archives and a raven-dedicated thread in which to do so.
lolcow is for the discussion of internet personalities, not the random commentators on their Youtube. If you approve of her commentary, then respond on Youtube, but I don't understand why you're bringing this screencap here specifically to applaud this ~beautiful brainy goth girl~ unless you want her to get some kind of negative attention.
Not wanting to attract any negative attention on her, just appreciated the fact that she called out two other cows.
I wrongly phrased my sentence, and actually meant that the comment itself is beautiful.
Also thought it was ok to post interesting comments, since it's often done.
Sorry if that annoyed you.
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can we please talk about the fact that adora batbrat is literally 14 years older ta ibf but literally looks about 90,000,000 years younger?
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It comes to us all, anon. It comes to us all.
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Jake's fake jawline always reminds me of emiia fart
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Any of you heard of kristianaoneandonly? She used to be an alright chick on YouTube. Then she started getting Instagram sponsorships, and not even a lot, and suddenly she turned into a huge bitch. All she does is advertise and cop attitude. She blocks anyone who doesn't gush about her accomplishments or how beautiful she is. I commented once to tell her that she should calm down because not everyone is against her, and the bitch blocked me. She blocked a bunch of my mates as well over nothing. One asked if she got her lips done, cause girl ain't fooling anyone
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What is this update for? I'd think it's to let subs know she won't post videos cos of surgery, but she doesn't post anyway. She could take this opportunity to do a surgery/recovery vid for anyone having the same thing. But she'll probably just use it for a lyric in a quick "pity me song part 2" video before another hiatus.
Why do her fans not hold her accountable for that btw? Most of them like/d her for her videos. And now she does none with no explanation. No I won't count "pity me song part 1" with the plane crash. Ironically this pity-me update would be a legit explanation though.
it's makeup, she filmed herself applying the look for a new video. haven't watched it yet but this is the kind of content she should put out more of.>>878830
he is so insecure about it yet there's plenty of pix and vids out where you can see his lovely thumb head.
What a bait-y post, she made it look like she got beat up or something. >>878886
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I thought you’re not supposed to eat or drink anything, including water, for like 8 hours before surgery because of the vomiting risk. Wtf is she doing sucking down energy drinks and hour before an operation?
I might be remembering another thread but I think it was corrupted somehow and had to be restored, but it could only be restored to a read only state.
Nothing to do with how special she wishes she was.
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Yeah this chick is the lowest. She loves e-begging and milking any remotely tragic event in her life for attention. Her whole face screams "I had plastic surgery". She looks like Octomom to me. I bet parts of her body are fake too.>>878998
Silence. Be cunts to cows and not to each other. Anons needs to sage tho.
How does her face "scream plastic surgery"? Is being pretty a crime on these threads now?
Post some milk and shut up about these stale cows. When did this thread become a bitching post for insecure farmers? I thought this place was for actual milk? We all love milky gossip here, but some of you need to work on your self esteem issues instead of venting it all out here.
Is she really that bad? I was a fan of hers years ago, but now I only scroll through her insta somethimes, without checking captions, storys or videos.
I don't think she had any plastic surgery but the braces changed her face a little.
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Braces only change the shape of your jaw, not the movement of your lips.. I used to be a fan of hers until her posts became all me me me. I still have a peek to see what she’s up to but there’s no milk. Not that I’ve seen, and I was following her well before her evanescence/skin walking amy obsessed stage.
She’s had work done but if that’s the only thing that’s going to be considered as milk, take it to the plastic thread.>>879111
Sage your shit if you’re only commenting to have a hissy fit
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Why have a close up of your infected face? Its fucking disgusting.
Fuck, these are two completely different faces. Something has been done to the lips and her cheeks have fillers.>>879092>pretty
Get your eyes checked if you like Wildenstein in progress.>>879206
Being dishonest about evident surgery in her face is milky af.>>879206
I've seen her recent videos, her complete face is oddly stiff compared to the old video, there is almost no movement in her face.>>879351
According to stories I heard Kristiana likes to collect freebies from brands, then she is never heard from again.
kek @ the tag "fake American accent"
cheers anon! Someone needs to post it on youtube
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"stretched thin over out current projects"
What fucking projects?!
I remember her and yeah, I used to like her videos way back in the day when she filmed in low quality. She seemed down to earth and had a cool style though in hindsight, she was not a Goth, just alternative girl who was obsessed with Evanescence. She disappeared off the face of the internet (I think, I didn't use Instagram or Twitter or any of that stuff at the time but I know she disappeared off YouTube). It's sad to hear that she's changed into a gross person because I remember her being quite chill back in the day.>>879043
Oh wow… I have never seen a picture of her without makeup, she looks quite different. I don't remember seeing her e-beg on Youtube at least but yeah, I don't follow her on social media so I'm not surprised I missed some things about her. As for the surgery, whether she had it or not, I don't really care because it's their body.>>879093
Yeah I remember she wore brace and they can change lower face structure at the teeth align. >>879101
Eugh… I would say I hope they don't sell but we all know they will because of his gullible fans. >>879481
Maybe he's going through some sort of mid-life crisis where he's trying to be the cool kid he wanted to be in high school or something and thinks that because he impressionable teenage fan-girls fawning over him, he's becoming that cool kid lol. I'd say he's like Voltaire only not talented and not into actual Goth. >>879713
Yes time certainly flies. >>879729
I think what may have happened is the donators may have forgotten that they were still on the list maybe? Because yeah it's a waste at this point.
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Did you see what Ho-dora is up to now? What's up with that lump on her hip? In the second picture you can see how misshapen her fake boobs are. What a mess. I kind of wish she would get really fat so she wouldn't be able to pose naked anymore. Take that away from her and what does she have?
It takes a long time to cover yourself in clown paint every day!! Respect the craft!
He is packaging all that merch he sold, but not sure what Kaya could be doing that is time-consuming.
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This is all I see.
kaya, this won't convince us you two have any sort of chemistry
p.s. nice attempt at covering the bingo wings, you both still look doughy as fuck
Yeah they should but it's not going to happen. They are greedy and lazy.>>879747>like Voltaire only not talented and not into actual Goth
Who is the guy in the background? And what the fuck is she doing?
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Samefag, had to do a quick phone scribble on it to demonstrate
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Does Jake the Fake have rickets? why does he stand so bow-legged? or is he just that short his legs bend like a babys?
agreed, was afraid to say something and be accused of mini modding but they get posted without any commentary and i'm always like, 'ok and?' not everything needs to be shared from the gruesome twosome.>>879101
wah wah wah, life is so hard for you dude. just pack the stuff up and send it out, fuck he needs asspats for everything.>>880090
this is great, thank you. i get he wants to show the whole outfit but why he chose these angles is baffling b/c it makes him look even stumpier.
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This fuckin nasty bitch. Why tf do people follow her?
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I went to a few vampire balls including the main one in New Orleans I know quite a few people from the community. Spent time with sebastian as well. Seems a narcissist and over bearing. He may sell it as absorbing energy or some vampire stuff but he basically intensely stares at you and acts controlling and sometimes overtly a jerk. Many girls fall for his status (mostly self-implied) and magnetic vampirism (!) or some such, but most find out he’s a douche. Some laugh in his face from the start. Even when he has a serious girlfriend, he has no problems making advances on women.
I think there is actually milk about him. He’s a very divisive figure in the community. I’ve heard from multiple people He’s not welcome in certain circles, has even been beat up I believe. I didn’t get much detail but there is serious bad blood when it comes to this guy that you hear from multiple independent sources. People just don’t have something good to say it seems. But I don’t know how bad and how specifically he is bad. If any farmers have more detail maybe they can Share?.
I I know a few things about his background too. I think this part is interesting, even though I’m not sure milky per se. Even though the fang / vampire clan world seems like an alternative underground kind of thing sebastiaaaan comes from a well off family. his father is a tough, self-made businessman, and won’t leave anything to his children. He want them to DIY life like he did. his siblings have all been incredibly successful and made lots of money. So he has a huge insecurity about not having made his first million dollars yet, which apparently is a failure and his family. And his goal.
And to do so, his business - fangsmith and event organizer/promoter. The vampire balls they hold are cool but mainly because of the attendees. He doesn’t seem all that enthused, maybe it’s just a moneymaking thing for him. Last one I went he barely even watched any of the performers or visited with the guests, he actively scoffed at the best costume contestants standing right behind me, and after that went outside and spent the rest of the evening smoking outside and chatting with girls including mine (and I mean titties!!) even though I was actually asking him some relevant questions.
The event can maybe make money, they seem to clearly be cutting corners. It’s not nearly elegant. The merch included tshirt and tote bag, a black plastic rose (with no stem) but fake dew, a vial of vampire perfume which didn’t even attempt to be dark but was just plain ole plasticy soap scented, So bad, it must’ve cost a nickel. The attendees had amazing costumes and it was fun. But the organization doesn’t add much. So he must make money from these events and he will try to grow them and make them even more main stream/cheap and big. And hopefully get his million dollars and daddy’s approval. Maybe he’ll lighten up..
Sorry for blogpost. I just tried to put together what I know and it came out a bit wordy.
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Wait a fucking second.
The girl from the catgirl mansion (>>>/snow/650320) is in this video. What a crossover, I didn't expect that.
She was once upon a time taken in to the project as a.. something. Promoter many? The cat girl things became a part of that worl a few years ago and she and sebastian dated. I believe he gave here the parrot she has? After words he has referred to here as "high maintenance" and was thrown of cat girls for a while. I also know she gifted him other cat girls. Unfortnuntly I have no hard evidence for that sins he just showed me pictures and vidios on his phone, and it is a few years ago.
The cat girls at the parties are referred to as "vampurs" and have quite a roomor of being spoiled as fuck and also have there heads up there own ases, by behaving rather poorly when they are about and about and believe they are better then everyone else.
I do believe there was a thread about here a year or so back, but j dont know if it survived. There was some milk on both here and sebastian in there.>>880770
He also thought another fang smith, cordelia (?) And there seams to be bad blood between them. But I mean that must be well over 15 years ago that happend. C was more active in Europe but after sebastian started to visit the feativala there frequently it seams like he disappeared in to thin air?
I've spoken to / hung with sebastian a few times. Ive seen this behaviour towards others, but not towards me, if that has to do with me being to ugly or the fact that I am not impressed by him what so ever I can not say.
Why are so many cows from well off families? Dorian, Sebastiaaaan, Manic Moth, Mai Magi…
Thank you anon for pointing out this new cow. The wannabe cult leader is definitely a creep worth watching. Is there enough milk for a thread?
you could try watching it at 1.25x speed. i watched the whole video a while back but i dont remember enough details to make an adequate summary.>>880568>It’s based off of that book where it’s all about the power of wish
you mean 'the secret'? and yeah that does sound serial killer-y.>>880770
wow, this sebastiaan guy sounds like a really well adjusted fellow. does anyone else think the fact the fact he calls himself "father" adds to the cultyness factor? anyway, it's a good thing faroogh (mahafsoun) is no longer on good terms with him. better for her that way.
if any anons have more milk on him please share.
No, that definitely makes it more culty. But also just the way he directs his "clanmemvers" in the video. I don't know anything about that Isibella girl. But the way he tried to control her conversation with the documentarian raised some serious red flags.
At best he's a narcissist who retalliates against anyone who doesn't kiss hiss ass. At worst were talking cult here.
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Stay the fuck away from "Father Sebastian" for your own good. Plenty of people/groups have made credible claims that he is a sexual abuser, including the Vampire Court of Austin.
well rapists usually don't take selfies during the deed. unless his victims
speak up in public we are unlikely to find any proof.>>880900
more details about don henrie and michelle pls
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Talking about underage girls, anons here are likely familiar with Elbow-san, Taylor's gross husband who is responsible for the 13 year olds featured in the Menclub online magazine, along with disgusting titles like "schoolgirls that we fxxed".
Sharing a hearsay story because it's the weirdest crossover, don't at me. Apparently Manicmoth is a stalkerish Taylor fangirl, for she went out of her way to defend Pedo-san to others when the scandal surfaced. She claimed the story is fabricated by PULL haters, Taylor is a poor victim
, and totally not the nasty enabling trophy wife she actually is.
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Oh man, my favorite old milk…Belanger and Father Sebastian's fall out is legendary in the 'dorky larping goth' scene.
Additionally, Sebastian has long been outcast from the southern vampire scene for being a backstabbing SOB, especially with the NOLA vampires.
At this point, seems like these two never grew up from high school and are still acting childish.
Both “divorce” because reeree wants her tattooists dick, mr Phillips then gets with some chick from twitch, both remove all evidence from social media and now they’re back together making content. You just know these two will get back together, say they made a mistake and will be stronger than ever. Then reeree will have one if her break downs again. Kinda pathetic at this point . Not the first time it’s happened either
She has done this 3 times now. Twice before they were married and once whilst they were married.
It also has to be 1 year of not living together to be classed as “separated” and then they can file divorce, being officially divorced.
You’ll see, in a few months time he will pop up more and then she release another sob story and delete it a few months later.
As for who left who first, reeree left first and then quickly announced how she was with the tattoo artist saying it was for the better. So yeh, everyone that’s been following her since she first popped up online knows how’s this story goes and has done so since their high school years. Nothing new
He acts like he doesn't have a choice whether he's goth or not. He acts like someone is pointing a gun to his head saying he has to call himself that because he wears black or something.
And maybe it's becsuse other people (according to him) called him goth in a derogatory way when he was younger, which is probably true because that's something that people do. But there are people who get called satan worshippers because of the way they dress, does that mean they are that and they have to call themselves that? No. Of course not. And other satan worshippers wouldn't call them that either.
'Sebastian' is actually Todd Hoyt, fyi.
She was friends with Todd, going so far as to call him her brother. When they broke off their friendship, she not only bad mouthed the sick fuck, she claimed he stole her material (which she stole from various role playing games, creating a black hole of copyright infringement).
She wrote about it in her livejournal, and then proceeded to heavily edit the complaints. This is the post in its unedited entirety:
"This post is an open letter intended to reach all of you in livejournal land and beyond. I am hoping that as many of you in the vampire community as possible stop by to read this. For those of you not interested in vampire politics, I suggest you just move along, or simply read this for curiosity's sake.
Since late 1998, I have worked with Father Sebastian Todd. Our initial partnership began after my work was plagiarized in his Vampyre Almanac 1998-1999. The material plagiarized was originally published in the 1997 Monolith Graphics Art Calendar. I touch upon this in my book, The Psychic Vampire Codex, but at Sebastian's insistence, left out the specified incident of plagiarism because he did not want to look bad.
At the time, Father Sebastian alleged that he had no idea who sent him the material. As reparation, he offered to have me write for the next Almanac – without pay, of course. To this day, I am certain that Todd himself plagiarized my work, and this knowledge in part influenced my decision to work with him on future projects.
This may seem counter-intuitive, but I had been plagiarized before, and as a relative no-name, I had discovered just how hard it is to call someone to task for intellectual theft. I felt that if I worked with a known plagiarist, at least I would have some say in how my work was presented and I would be much more likely to be able to keep my name attached to that work. In later years, another factor that kept me working with Todd was the fact that I could influence him to be less destructive to the community – my revisions of the black person Veil are a sign of this, as Todd's version that first appeared on the Sanguinarium website was criticized by many as reading like a bad rehash of The Traditions of the Masquerade. It was.
Last week, after many long and eventful years, my House and I decided to bring our association with Father Sebastian Todd to an end. For multiple infractions that have built up over a span of years but have specifically reached a head over the past 8 months, Father Sebastian Todd is no longer an ally of House Kheperu. Subsequently, he is no longer someone who can use our name, reprint our work, "borrow" our ideas, or otherwise continue to enlarge his own projects with our creativity, inspiration, or reputation.
First, I want everyone to understand that this was not done lightly. Ever since I first started working the Father Sebastian Todd in 1998, I have had various people approach me and warn me not to work with him. More people than I can count have approached me over the years with complaints against him and reasons for why our association should end. Until recently, I never felt there was sufficient evidence for such a drastic move. However, over the course of the past year or so, a number of events, incidents, disagreements, and issues have built to a point where the cessation of his ally status was inevitable.
When the infractions are based on material reported to us by another, be assured that we have acquired the text of letters, IM logs, chat transcripts, and other primary evidence to back up each individual's claims. Furthermore, the individual infractions are not limited to single incidents but represent a repeated pattern that cannot at this point be resolved. The material we have on file will remain private as it contains peoples' names and we have no desire to spread further drama and recriminations throughout the community. Just understand that by our exacting standards, it is more than sufficient to prove each case.
Here are the main points that inspired this radical decision:
Primary Infractions of Father Sebastian Todd:
Stating that House Kheperu is sponsoring events without first gaining permission from the House. Further, not even notifying House Members that we were supposedly sponsoring the events
Presenting himself under a known alternate ID as an ally of House Kheperu to other houses and then implying or outright stating that House Kheperu supports the issues and/or policy changes he is attempting to enforce in said houses.
Reprinting material from members of the House in his publications without first acquiring permission to do so. (plagiarism)
Frequently taking ideas and partial writings from the House for reprint in his own publications without proper attribution. (intellectual theft)
Misrepresenting concepts, ideas, and teachings from House Kheperu.
Attempting to recruit an established member of House Kheperu. Furthermore, attempting to use sex to do so, via a third party.*
Misrepresenting House Kheperu and/or its members to potential members and other individuals within the community.
Ordinarily, when someone becomes an ally or loses that status, we treat it as a private matter. It is only because of the very public identity of Sebastian and the widely known nature of our association that we make this a public matter on our boards. For the sake of peace in the community, we do not wish to debate the matter further.
We also wish to take this time to apologize to anyone in any order, coven, or house who has been approached by Todd, a member of House Sahajza, or its affiliates using our name. If any person claiming to be abbon of House Kheperu has attempted to inform you of our opinions or policies, they had no right to speak with our voice. They did this without our knowledge or our consent.
House Kheperu has no interest in dictating policy to other houses or individuals. If someone attempts to tell you what to do, using our name to back up their credibility, they are abusing both us and you.
If you run a vampire-related House, Order, or Website, please reprint this letter in its entirety. I am especially distressed to learn that Todd frequently used my name and the name of House Kheperu in private correspondence to lend credibility to his claims and demands. He never had permission to do this. If he has run an event and our name has been attached to it, he has never even asked if he could use that name. Some abuses I can tolerate when it's for the good of the community, but too many of the liberties he has taken with us have hurt the community I love.
*Ordinarily, we have no problem with our members joining other organizations. It is the fact that Sebastian has railed against other individuals who have sought to recruit his members that we take this into consideration at all. Our members can come and go as they please, but we feel that by Sebastian's own standards, a concerted effort to draw them away represents a serious insult to us and our House."
All of this was from her encyclopedia dramatica page. He has one too.
jfc father sebastian is a crazy bastard. belanger's ed page is fucking cringe in general:
She says her name is French for "beautiful angel" to reinforce her claim that she is a living decedent of the Nephilim race, but there are no sources that confirm this. Sure, bel is beautiful and ange is angel, but her name isn't spelled Belange (even though she lies and says that's how Belanger is pronounced). She is the only member of her family to boast that this is the actual translation. It's more likely an English (or even Germanic) name than French. Also, only hack-job amateur genealogists will give you the "beautiful angel" crap. The name probably originated as Beringer if it is indeed French, which means "strong as a bear". Most sites online will tell you this bit of information. Notice how any mention of angels is absent.>>882019
dressed like villains from disney movies hahahah. jake doesn't understand gothic isn't the coked-up cosplay he's into.>>881006
stupid if she did, she unintentionally outed herself to be lurking on pull.
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lulz pic from encyclopedia dramatica for the meme anons.
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To be fair, when I first started developing my own sense of style, there was no internet. And in the small town where I lived goths really weren't a thing. But I'm also very old. I'm pretty sure Jakey can't make the same excuse.
Also, nobody can claim to be "goth from birth." You can't know about the music if you're a baby.
He can certainly know about the music now though, so why still call himself goth if he knows better?
Iuno about this. Most people born from 80 to 1990 (maybe till 95), their parents were playing shit like the cure. Here in Australia anyway, that’s all we had! That was THE music to listen to and it was different. For us it was called goth, and most called it punk and then moved on to the next big thing. We went from rock and roll to stuff like the cure and loved it because of the film clips.
To say “born into goth” may not be literally born into it, but if his parents are my age, there’s a bloody good chance that he was thrashed with 80s music and not knowing what it was. That’s why he says he hates it. But you still can’t trash a genre and say you’re apart of it
Anon do you even know anything about Jake at all? He literally considers goth to not be about goth music and openly said he hates goth music, and says that anyone who thinks goth is about the music is an elitist cunt and pedantic authoritarian bully. Therefor even if he did grow up listening to The Cure (doubt it) it wouldn't make him goth in his own eyes.>>882132
"coked up cosplay" is the best description of Jake's style I've ever heard.
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Now that Emily has had a falling out with annoying friend #1, she replaced her with much more annoying friend #2. This fat bitch always acts like a fool on camera. Speaking of fat bitch, why are 99% of EB's friends so damned huge? This is a repeat vlog of yet another group of whales making a scene in public, cue Emily talking about having to take a shit as always.
I just watched that part and it was disgusting, fat friend showing off her huge belly and ass. Like attracts like I guess
I'm curious what went down with annoying friend #1. they seemed pretty close for years, even got matching friendship tattoos, then all of a sudden they fell out and don't hang out with each other anymore. I wonder if it was something as dumb as her friend wanting the same hair colour as Emily kek. Wouldn't surprise me at all since she changed her blue hair because everyone else in her town now sported it and she didn't feel schpecial enough
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I have a friend who said she heard Emily just got too big for her britches so to speak. Notice as her views went up, her makeup and hair changed and she suddenly adopted the "sassy black girl" personal. And have you seen her wannabe modeling pics lately where she just looks constipated while trying to look sexy or edgy? Now she thinks she's some huge star and only wants to hang with people who can either make her look good or who worship her. Her old friend didn't treat her special so she had to go to make way for people who treat her like something special even though she's not goth, she's barely alternative, and if it wasn't for snog marry avoid no one would even know who she was. She's a trend hopper fake followed by nothing but posers and the fact that she thinks so highly of the toxic
twosome is more than enough proof of her character. She's like IBF as well in that she plays nice on camera but on her own profile she slags off everyone. I was on her private profile many years ago and confronted her about some shit talking she was doing and she blocked me right away.she's nasty inside and out and her "fame" has gone right to her stupid ugly fat midget head
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I really don't know much about EB, maybe she's not a cow, but she seems like a gross and obnoxious person (I've only ever tried to watch 2 of her videos and stopped because I found her so annoying).
It's always weird to me how anons will root for Kaya in spite of her shitty behaviour and defend EB but are weirdly vitriolic towards Reeree whose only crime is that she's a bit boring.
Our definition of a cow differs then, because her attitude, grossness, shunning old friends as she gains popularity (and she's said in one of her videos that she is picky about who she becomes friends with because she doesn't want anyone gaining attention from being her friend. She has to be the most popular one), her bad tattoo choices and constant lasering, shopping for junk and then selling it without even wearing it, hoarding every spoopy witchy thing she can get and pretending to be goth when she also doesn't (and never has) listened to Gothic music. Her manners are horrific, burping and taking pictures of herself on the toilet, talking about her nipples and hairy legs and bodily functions like anyone cares. Her acting black! Her disgusting diet of chocolate, crisps, alcohol and soda from first thing in the morning. What else? She's as much a cow as any of the others.
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I agree anon. Sure she doesn't e-beg (yet) and will give bad reviews for companies (although she admitted to false advertising for brands she was sponsored by, so not very honest is she) but she's definitely still cow material. Someone posted this gif of her at a meet up on an older thread, it shows her disgusting behaviour in public
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Kaya is so socially awkward she can't even make eye contact with her camera while saying her intro
There are articles on all three of them and some other alt cows from back then like memory and dream, pink spider and johnathan the impaler (thats how he spells it).
From what I remember-don henrie has some weird fetishes like listening to people poop, claimed to be dating a black girl which he said meant he could say the n word (the girl wasn't black) pretty much acted like a big tough guy on the internet. I saw him in mad mad house where he claimed to drain a persons energy making a contestant almost pass out ergo proving hes a "real vampire", but its claimed he just put pressure on some of the blood vessels in their neck which apparently has the same effect.
Also he gets triggered
if you talk about his lopsided nipples.
I feel like these guys are the original altcows and I kinda miss the stupidity. To add to other anons posts about bellanger apparently she also tried to take over a friends band (video related) also warnings for major bellanger henrie cringe (they are both in the video) for anyone who hasnt already see it.
Yeah Kaya is hella awkward, she used to seem less awkward on camera, I wonder if sinking deeper into her neet lifestyle has made her that way.>>883030
Lmao this is gold.
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You right, no one cares or asks, but at least your summaries mean we don't have to sit through herbs self pitying videos, I dont know how you do it anon.
Out of interest does she actually make money on youtube? Also she was shit stirring for a while a few months ago, so its rich of her to complain about negativity kek.
>>882019>listening to a certain type of music that you might not actually like in order to be accepted as a goth.
Fucking pissant. Because of course it makes sense to call yourself something that has a meaning and it doesn't apply to you. Shut the fuck up with this nonsense. True Goths do not judge newbies, they don't judge people on what they're wearing or what their background is in. The only requirement to be Goth is to listen to the music. You can listen to other music too but if Goth music is not included in that collection of music then why call yourself Goth? Jake is an idiot and his fans who seriously take that advice are in for a rude awakening. Yeah you can call yourself whatever you want but don't be upset when those involved in the scene don't take you seriously or think of you as a Goth because you don't like or have some enjoyment for the music.>>882029
But see, even if you do discover Goth through the internet, you can still find what it's truly about, that's how I did. That's why people like Jake piss me off. >>882082
I didn't know he used to call himself "emo" or "Cyber goth" but that certainly puts things in perspective. He's just a poser who will clamor onto anything to get attention.>>882160
It's because actual Goths don't think he's Goth. That's why he has a chip on his shoulder because of the fact that while he can fool normies or teenagers, real goths see right through him and either ignore him or call him out. I think he especially has this issue because of that livestream he did back in 2016-2017 where he pissed off a lot of Goths in the chatroom saying he thought Goth music was shit and that the fans of that music were cuntbags.
And now we have people being a little more vocal about their feelings about him. Angela Benedict with her Q&A video, that girl who made a video talking about how he's a poser and a potential creeper towards underage fans, I even saw a comment left by Kai Decadence who sorta shared what he though of him. So yeah, it's not surprising that he has a chip even though what they're saying is true.
Yeah that's something that always annoys me with these people. They act like we're stupid. That we don't see through their BS of "always looking this way". Like dude, it's okay to have come into the alternative later in life, most of us did. Why lie?>>882358> Also, nobody can claim to be "goth from birth." You can't know about the music if you're a baby.
Exactly. Unless your parents or family members listened to Goth music and played it around you, you can't be a Goth at birth or in childhood and it's perfectly fine. It's a journey. >>882358
Pretty much the same reason why Kaya still does it even when she's not a Goth. It's for attention. >>882406
The Cure isn't a very good one to go by because not all their work was Goth and most of the time, I see older folks who aren't Goth but still liked the Cure, they mostly mention their love for their pop songs. So personally, I don't really think The Cure is a good hallmark anymore. Now if say the parent was playing Bauhaus, Specimen, Christian Death, Virgin Prunes, or Danse Society for example (as they were popular within Goth in the early 80s) then I would be more inclined to go "Oh yeah, you definitely grew up on Goth" but most of the time, people just list off pop songs by the Cure and follow it up with bands like Duran Duran, A-HA, Pet Shop Boys, and David Bowie (pretty much 80s Pop/New Wave).>>882536
Birds of a feather flock together I guess? >>882726
I think the main reason why EB was considered a Cow was because just like the toxic
twosome, she's a believe that Goth isn't about music and that being dark and spoopy makes you goth. Obviously Goths will find her to be a joke but yeah she's not as bad as some of the others mentioned here, I'll give you that.>>882747
Part of me likes ReeRee and another part of me is indifferent to her because I can't help but feel like she has nothing else going for her except for her look. Like she doesn't have any interests outside of makeup and fashion. Also because she was another one of those Goth = Dark & Spooky people.
“ But see, even if you do discover Goth through the internet, you can still find what it's truly about, that's how I did. That's why people like Jake piss me off.”
His “reasoning” is that no one told him what goth music was and that Spotify didn’t exist back then. Like, seriously? I’m only 5 years older than him, when I discovered goth, Wikipedia, YouTube, and iTunes didn’t even exist yet but I still figured it out because I had a genuine interest in it.
Sage for personal rant.
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Just came across this.. great new thread template
I have to agree with her on this, as I think most of us will. When will we get a fucking decent alternative brand with quality, that doesn't cost 300 euros, like newrock? It´s been this way since I began dressing alternative in the 2000´s. Raven, demonia, SDL, punk rave… I suppose lip service had alright quality. These new brands are exactly the same, dark in love, killstar, even older brands like hell bunny… The style is right, the prices are huge and the quality is dreadful.
Lip service had terrible quality. Especially their PVC stuff. And was very expensive as well. I think people are just sort of nostalgic about them. I do agree though. But good goth clothing has always been expensive. You either make quality items for a neiche audience, which means smaller batches and more expensive materials. Or you make cheaper stuff that appeals to a larger audience. Fast fashion versus investment pieces. It's the same for goth as it is for any fashion genre. That's why there's such a tradition of thrifting and DIY in the scene.
The problem is influencers (like IBF and Kaya) claiming it's great quality when it really isn't.
it really isn't. And Jake is featured under "expectation" when he's a fat ugly poser troll>>883244
Yes I don't like EB but it is good to see a slightly "bigger" YTer calling out Shillstar. Seems a bit redundant though as she said she'll still shop with them
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Now she's calling herself nugoth and grunge goth kek. She's been taking lessons from Jakey making up subgenres to get the most attention
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Saging bc I’m not sure if this should go here or instagrammers thread OR anachan thread (maybe not bc I have no real milk just annoyed and she is “uber gofffff” Killstar shill)
but I’m so tired of seeing this chick on my TL being reposted by brands. Her shoop is awful and her thinspo posting is awful too. Her surgeries look like shit. Anyone know anything about her? just curious.
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Yeah maybe not I just saw a couple where you can tell she’s shopping her waist super tiny like from the side and it kinda reminded me of some ana shit.
Like really what is this lmao
Sorry if this is derail/blogging - but problems with "executive function" are a huge part of ADHD. It's like your brain is a circus without a ringmaster. This is a reason people with ADHD are often mislabled as lazy, stupid, or careless - it can be incredibly difficult to just make your body DO THE THING, even (especially) really simple or mundane tasks. It has nothing to do with not wanting
to do something. Idk, google executive function. It can be a significant impairment. That difficulty also often leads to shame, which long term can become clinical depression, which makes motivation against inertia even more difficult.
I have nothing to add about this in regards to Kaya, but wanted to clear some of that up, I think it's important.
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It reminded me of this iconic shoop from Violet Ell for some reason that people were "concerned" about, like it wasn't real fucking obvious it was an edit
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There's a difference between recognising that depression may be a factor in her behaviour and attitude, and accepting it as an excuse. Most people who comment on her (supposed) depression also say that it's her responsebillity to deal with it, and that she isn't doing so.
Must be hard for you to be the only non-tumblr retard on this board.
521,000 DKK are USD 77,500 but Mai still flips thrifted clothing she took from real poor people. Shamelessly pretending to be poor! Why are people so stupid to pay for this woman's patreon?!
Who is the guarantor of the bank loan on the house? Can you post the sales record or let us know where to find it?
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Blogposting is forbidden but honestly no one should buy shillstar's cheapo crap.
I agree. The thing is, everyone has depression at this point in time and it's all about how you deal with it. I could forgive Kaya if she was actually productive. People who have bad anxiety or depression and just cannot feel comfortable in retail-like settings, fine I get because I can relate but this is where the individual should be getting creative. A lot of artists tend to have social anxiety but they turn their passion into a job by doing commission work for others. This is why when it comes to things like Patreon or KO-FI, I don't think it's wrong when artists or crafters use it because at least they are being productive and giving something back.
Kaya could totally be creating and selling things with all the time she has. You know at least doing something to make side income but she can't even assed to do that. Jake is a tryhard scumbag but I will say that he is only a smidgen above Kaya since he at least sells things (his merch) instead of lounging about and complaining.
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This is the story Psychara posted on her IG. Later she admitted that it referenced the MMs. None of them will spill any milk though.
I noticed ManicMoth was posting about being at that pop up store where she's selling her necklaces, hanging out with eerie_elli and lilachris, who I thought she had a falling out with?
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Kaya's diet is going well I see..
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NTA but those things are so nasty and sugary sweet. You can literally feel your kidneys working overtime to digest all that orange crap Starbucks puts in it to make it look like pumpkin. >>884287
At least she’s being a little bit more forthcoming about whatever happened than those other two retards who kept making a big deal about their ~uwu stronger together~ friendship but then refusing to acknowledge what happened with Mara.
I have a feeling Annika or maybe even Mai was coming here posting all that petty shit about Mara being a bitch, they were way too bitter and aggressive so it seems like whatever happened was precipitated by one of the two.
I havent been paying attention lately, but I remember a few months ago he would hardly like any of kayas posts (it would pretty much have to include him in it to like it) but he would like almost every single one of Reeree and Kelly's pictures.
It might not really mean anything though, it is just instagram after all.
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I just visited that tacky site. There's a fucking size guide. Did she not have a tape measure?>>884602
He's in Belfast. Not some Satanic Panicked bible belt territory. None of this happened.
I need to add something about his "chav culture" comment.
The fact he's apparently being ~victimised~ is more a reflection on his lack of social skills and how far up himself he is.
Rule of thumb, if someone gives you grief, you politely open dialogue with them.
EG:>Oi, you look a right dick
He could laugh at himself (whether he feels he's to laugh at or not) smile and say something self deprecating.
IBF's the same. So victimised for dressing in black, oh no!
It's 2019 ffs. It wasn't even an issue in the 80s.
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He does though. If he hasn't got the confidence to go out looking like he thinks he looks amazingly weird, he should stick to img.
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Why tf does he call her a playmate?
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Playmate is what playboy mansion girls are called. Why you getting triggered
over nothing lol
I wasnt triggered
, I just thought it was weird. And yes I know thats what the playboy mansion girls are called, but her bio didnt say anything about her working for playboy so I didnt know if that was what he called his vampire cult members or something.
I thought she was holding a baseball bat at first
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Jake: "why do chavs stare and whisper about me???"
I'm sorry but we'd all love to peg a stone or two at jake.
he walks around belfast looking like this with a big camera in his face. so many people here in belfast know these two lazy fuckers.
believe me, it's not just chavs who hate them
Jake: goes out of his way to look like a disgusting freak
Also Jake: "Why do people stare at me?!"
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wow all that black shit jake is always putting on his neck actually does do a good job at hiding his fat.
this is the first time in a while I've seen him without it and you can really notice how heavy he is
Just a little tip. Maybe write down what you're going to say so the viewers don't have to listen to 10 minutes of "um's" and "eh's"
Plus with all the receipts that's provided on jake and kaya on these threads you could have done a much better, better researched video.
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this is great, of course fakey is whining on his ig story about how "as if it's a clearly defined genre of artists". >>885122
is he so dumb he doesn't understand how music genres work?>>884890
he's just bulking lel. i can see why he edits himself so much for ig pix but he has to know what he looks like in vidoes so why bother.
You should mention how they don’t post on mag anymore but still take patreon donations for their channel. Go you for outing and exposing him in a way that’s going to enrage him and kaya both, neither can take criticism of any kind. Especially for problematic
Watching this was fucking painful. It was lacking in almost every aspect and without the amount of umma in it, could’ve been much shorter and mode to the point.
Was legit just a bitch video. Get better info from here with better opinions and points of view.
Probably don’t out yourself next time
Manicmoth has been bitching about eerie_elli and lilachris behind their backs for years. The split second the very people she looked down upon might turn out to be successful she is suddenly their bff to leech from them. It's a repulsive display of fake friendship.>>884341
I know at least two other people who asked her the same question.
That's pretty much what will happen, they'll just twist it around and try to be seen as victims
of the "elitists". Furthermore in the grand scheme of things, people who know anything know the truth of these two idiots and don't take them seriously. There's just not much else that needs to be done at this point.>>885122
"As if it's a clearly defined genre of artists"
Spoken like someone who has no idea what the fuck they're talking about.>>885322
I do give her credit for trying. While she could've done better, she's the only one who did a public call out on him. Though Fake Muntro's sycophants are invading the video unsurprisingly. >>885394
I don't get why they do this. IF they just owned their situations, people wouldn't have such a negative look on them.
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i just made this in ms paint, its shitty and doesnt look like i imagined but its my first and im still proud of it lol
Her father's job is at least 70k, to 120k per year which is the higher end of spectrum. If the other parent is working, then it's 30 to 40k for any normal job. Which means Manic Moth's family makes at least 100,000 euro per year.>>885519>>885541
It's word on the street that her business isn't as profitable as she claims. She and her beau relied heavily on his family's money to keep up appearances, but they were cut off for being a pair of ne'er-do-wells, hence the begging. Still remember her short-lived fashion brand going down in flames? One of her beau's relatives is apparently responsible for her criminal defence.>>885604
I love it. Make more!
And at the end of the day, there is nothing wrong with being basic. It's good to be true to yourself and not pretend to be something you're not. The sad thing about these people is how they don't try things that can actually make someone truly interesting. Learn an instrument, learn a skill, etc. >>885705
Eh give her some slack. She did admit in her Goth tag video that she's fairly new to the scene only having been in it for 3 months now. She's still learning obviously but she's in a better spot than the usual ones who try to get into Goth through the two aforementioned cows. She'll find her way.>>885710> It's word on the street that her business isn't as profitable as she claims. She and her beau relied heavily on his family's money to keep up appearances, but they were cut off for being a pair of ne'er-do-wells, hence the begging. Still remember her short-lived fashion brand going down in flames? One of her beau's relatives is apparently responsible for her criminal defence.
Considering how she is essentially ripping people off, I'm not surprised it didn't take off as well as she had hoped it would.
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I wish Kaya would go back to matching her foundation to her skin instead of going about 10 shades whiter. she really used to be beautiful
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bonus pic of kaya and jake
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He looks like he's her ventriloquist dummy.
Putting this idea forward if they need some material for a joint video.
His chav is really showing in that pic.
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>>885395>they are like those trust fund kids who backpack through east asia and europe and beg for money
Didn't this happen? I mean Manicmoth "stayed with friends" in Japan. Sounds more like "I'm broke I had to sponge on people" to me.>>885541
Yeah according to tumblr she is turning 30 next year. Imagine having no credentials other than putting finger paint in your face at this age.>>885931
I hoped Jake would look decent somewhere on the timeline. Nope. Still an incel.
She used to have one, I dont knkw what ever happened to that.>>886009
I think its just her narrow face type, narrow faces dont usually look good with extra weight. If someone has a rounder face then it usually fits them more.
First of all, don't do this to the dead girl. She can't tell her story and I doubt anyone who knew her would be concerned with establishing her goth cred.
Second of all, it's irrellevant. She wasn't killed for the music she listened to. She was targeted because of her appearance. I doubt the people who beat her stopped to ask how she felt about bone orchard. And peoplw who target goths today don't care either.
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Not milky news really but lilacris and crew opend a clothing shop in Hamburg. Supporting smaller and local designers… wondering what the witchy bunch will think of this? If she deside to stock someone's items, not the others, or if she actually make things work where they fail…
I'm just gonna bite the bullet and say I don't think she was a Goth but perhaps a Rivethead since Industrial music was quite popular in the late 90s to the early-mid 2000s. But that being said, >>886144
is right. It doesn't really matter because her and her boyfriend were attacked on the sole purpose of them looking different from the norm and that is what makes what happened to them beyond messed up. And the "normies" for lack of better word who attack those of us on the fringe don't care whether we are Goth, Punk, Rivethead, or whatever, they think we're all weird and deserve to get attacked for it. >>886166
Is Lilacris a cow? I used to watch her content and she didn't seem lol-cowish but she defintitely fell into the category of people who think liking occult symbols and metal music makes them Goth but I don't recall her trying to scam anyone or anything like that. >>886216
That's why Etsy is pretty cool as I've come across a few artists there who create dark or gothic jewelry that looks just as good as Alchemy (in my opinion).
Robert Maltby has spoken about the reaction to Sophie's murder before and how he didn't like how goths latched onto it -
"Because the media feels the need to simplify every story to the point that a five-year-old should feel his or her intelligence insulted, it was decided that the couple got jumped because they were slightly goth-looking. And so the whole thing turned into a weird "Do goth kids deserve rights?" debate instead of the sincere moment of "Holy shit, when did our nation's youth turn into the real version of Clockwork Orange only way dumber and scarier?"-type reflection it should have been"https://www.vice.com/da/article/jmd9p8/london-robert-maltby-is-not-goth-but-the-kids-who-stomped-him-are-feral-monsters
But it does seem like her mum got a lot of support for the sophie charity through whitby goth fest and other events.
Sophie has Rasputina lyrics on her gravestone IIRC as they were one of her favourite bands - not super goth but I don't think she claimed to be.
Kek, she should go back to copying Angela Benedict's 90s/00s nostalgia videos. Her videos haven't been good in a while, just her insane ramblings, probably from sitting in a filthy room with rat carcasses everywhere. >>885705
Entire video itself is lazy. Maybe it's just me, but who cares about Jake not being goth and hating goths? We know this, his fans know this, they don't care. Or "He's selling Halloween merch but doesn't care about Halloween!" Again, who cares? There's much more milky shit about him and Kaya, than his boring ass likes and dislikes. I can tell this kid saw Angela's video, decided to make her own to be noticed by us. It worked, seeing as the kid decided to self-post. Didn't they learn anything from Ruadhan?>>884863
They're staring because they're confused as to why their chav brother is dressing like an eboy Marilyn Manson.
Yeah I thought so. Rasputina are cool but they're not a Goth band. Nevertheless, it doesn't make what happened to Sophie any less unacceptable and I'm just happy that at the very least, more awareness was put on how some people can be towards alternative people and how violence will never (or should never be accepted).>>886337
All I know is I can't wait for TT, Jake, and IBF to try to get their hands on sponsorship from them lol
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Lila Chris isn't a full-blown cow yet but she is as much of an opportunist as everyone else. There were old party photos with Lila Chris almost sitting on Psychara's lap, it's established she used Manic Moth to suck up to bigger bloggers. Psychara never seemed to give her the time of day, for now she attached herself to the next best option she got, which is MM.>>886650
Not gonna happen because Lila Chris hates Mai and frequently shit-talks her.
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Thanks for the heads up anon. I didn't know Lila Chris used to try to hang around Psychara and Manic Moth but looking back on some of Lila Chris' looks, I can't say I'm surprised. It feels like these women are kinda clones of each other with that whole witch/nature thing (though Lila Chris went more alternative). >>886678
W@hatever helps you sleep at night Fake Munro.
I forgot Lila hated Mai. They all sorta blend into one another, like some amorphous goth blob.>>886698
Tbh they are clones of each other, you’re not far off in thinking this. They’re like hipsters - all telling themselves how different they are whilst copying each other left and right.
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There is this tattoo artist ashtray_arts who did the stolen neck tattoo for psychara. Also she was called out to exploit Psychara for likes. Unsurprisingly also a ~friend~ of manicmoth kek. Idk I think these orbiter girls all suck, it's all too obvious they are brown nosing.
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The girl who criticized them attempted to be friendly, but everyone just jumped down her throat. How dare she question psychara's mad skills lol?!!11!
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psychara being an oversensitive bitchy cow again
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This is my first comment on here, so sorry in advance if I did anything wrong, just thought I’d help out with the translation.
Kat_creeperson says this:
“I’m tattooing myself and already had to listen to a lot of advice from other tattoo artists. I’m about to give one piece of that advice to you and also my personal opinion. I mean no harm, please don’t take it the wrong way. I know that art is a matter of taste but you’re better off continuing in your own style. Sure, if a client is a fan of Psychara and wants something done, it can be tattooed. The fact that she has so many followers is probably beneficial for you. However, your art is significantly better! When the client shows this tattoo around (and a lot of people seeing it won’t know Psychara) everyone is going to think that you designed it. That will reflect badly on your drawing skills. Because in my opinion it’s really not well drawn and should have been executed differently to make it durable. Especially the snake heads, the anatomy, the ear… Sure, it’s probably going to get a lot of likes on Instagram but in reality where it counts and people hear about your tattoos by word-of-mouth… that’s where it’s getting difficult. As I said, just some experience of my own, how you’d like to handle things in the future is of course entirely up to you.”
Being German myself I think she phrased this politely, if that doesn’t come across as much that’s probably just my translation. Also sorry if there are any errors, I did this rather quickly without proof reading.
The part that Psychara repeats, “Ich weiß Kunst ist Geschmacksache“ means „art is a matter of taste.”
My German is rusty so I understood bits and pieces; your translation is perfect.
Nothing kat said was inherently bad and her advice makes a lot of sense. I think the part that got to Mara was about the “instagram likes”.
Jake: I'm a goth king even tho I hate goth music lol
Goths: um, you're not a goth if you dont listen to goth music
Jake: you can't judge me! No one can judge me! How dare you tell me I'm not goth, you pedantic authoritarian bully elitist cunts!!1!1
Goths: but goth is a music based subculture
Jake: wow goths are so whiny
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Dre is serving tea. She created some Hella ugly shirts for hot topic, and a girl is accusing her of stealing her design. Tbh, just letters of a fucking cringe cliche phrase on a shirt, but the accusation is the exact thing Dre herself would do so.. Karmas a bitch
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Also, this is too terrible not to post.
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To be honest, I'm with Dre on this one (wtf happend there?). Not trying to be a wk, but when the font is all different and the wording is not even the same…. and it's not the first time around mall goth has been printed on a tshirt!
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And I suppose she was first with putting this coffin, or 666 on a tshirt as well? Jeeez…
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed lol That's why I find it fascinating that they all don't like each other.>>886831
Kek Yep that sounds about right. There's a reason why no actual Goths watch him or his whiny girlfriend and they only attract like minded people (a.k.a fake goffs/posers).>>886972
Are they really trying to use the term "Mall Goth" as a term of endearment? lol Can't wait for Fake Munro Toxic
to get in on that.
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Two US companies actually fought a lawsuit over banana costumes. Kinda OT but yes, they do fight about this shit lol
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Surprised me to not see a picture here of this series of Maimagi. She reminds me of newly divorced 50 year old who is suddenly spiritually enlightened and a ‘free spirit’. Not aware of what’s going on in the real World in any way..
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Exactly Belfast anon. They use their appearance to market themselves. And given their long history of public fatshaming, for which they have not apologised, I'd say don't feel bad about it.
Also thank you so much for the entertainment you've given me with pointing out the stumpy nature of jake.
thanks anon. Try to snap a picture of the toxic
twosome next time kek
>>886998>I find it fascinating that they all don't like each other
…at the same time they are willing to use each other as stepping stones. The amount of hypocrisy on display would have made Machiavelli proud. Shit like this really makes one appreciate having real friends.>>887065
Outfit is fucking ugly, non-existent waist, great job. Where did you find the photo? If there is more, post them. BTW learn to integrate, stop name-fagging.>>887075
Kaya is worn out from WALKING?! hahahahah
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They are in her tagged pictures on Instagram.
I actually like the witchy goth aesthetics too, especially Psychara. Sometimes Mai comes off frumpy and Annika is uninspired.
Can’t stand their personalities or how they bully each other, but I am into that woodland witch living by the light of the moon vibes they give off. They’re still insufferable though.
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Jake in a childrens toy shop
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Lila Chris is from Germany. Her home town is Henstedt-Ulzburg, but she lives in Hamburg now.
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I’ve noticed the Viking stuff as well and laugh because whatever Viking blood they have left in them is obviously not being put to good use.
Mai constantly tries to gas up her derpy looking partner as being some “strong sexy Viking warrior” when he looks like an anemic pencil pusher. In fact, my dumb ass has often confused Mai’s partner for Annika’s as they literally look like brothers…same limp hair, dull faces, never speaks.
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Anons, write a summary for us? I don't want to give cows youtube clicks.>>887385
The anemic pencil pusher is Asmus Larsen from the Jesper Larson Antik family. Google CVR No. 19246043, if you want to see their finances. I doubt Mai Magi would have been able to receive bank loan for the house without Asmus. He's pulling the financial heavy weight in the background for sure. If he spoke up Mai's self made girl boss image would fall apart.
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For the Annika vlog she mainly shows them putting the store together, unboxing, cleaning, and her display box. They had a champagne toast, somebody bought some jewelry pre-opening, and she changed out of her black shapeless clothes into more black shapeless clothes to model some of the designs in the store. She also has a rack of tee shirts with her logo on it. She hugs Lila a couple of times and shoves the camera in people’s faces.
Her jewelry looks a lot like Felvae’s (rings with stones), so I wonder who’s copying who?
It is a compass, I have the exact same one. Google vegvisir :)
You are wrong about vikings, it is a collective term for the ancient peoples of scandinavia :) it is more of an empire, they had settlements, villages, culture and art - it wasn't just the warriors.
I know what a vegvisir (literally :way pointer) is. It's not a compass, it's a signpost/charm to ensure the wearer wouldn't get lost. Also it isn't "viking."
And I know that the scandinavian people whom we now call vikings had a widespread culture that could be considered an empire, or a loosely affilliated series of enpires. But they did not call themselves vikings, was my point.
So? Medieval people didnt call themselves medieval. Doesnt mean we shouldnt use that descriptor.
Omg ur logic
No. But it does mean they didn't. And my problem isn't with modern people calling the people who lived in scandinavia centuries ago vikings we call them vikings because that's how the people they came in contact with through trade and raiding referred to them. But my problem is with people today calling themselves vikings, because their not. And if Mai was nearly as interested in her (assumed) ancestors as she claims to be, she should be able to make that distinction.>>887490
It's kind of a tricky one, I agree. I hate how nazis have co-opted that, because nazis ruin fucking everything. I think it's important to draw a distinction between "my ancestors did this cool thing that I like" and "because my ancestors did this cool thing I myself am likely to be just as cool because of genetics."
Not saying that Mai is a white supremacist in any way. But it would be nice if she thought about this stuff a bit more.
Is she freaking serious? Being tired from walking is most likely a good thing for her considering how inactive she is and with all the weight she's carrying around, it's kinda expected that it wouldn't be too comfortable at first. And kek at the "work" thing, sure lol.>>887083
Going off that description, my mind thinks King of the Hill's Cotton (the grandpa) who got his shins blown off and walks like a penguin lol. I'm guessing all the layers he wears doesn't help neither.>>887125> …at the same time they are willing to use each other as stepping stones. The amount of hypocrisy on display would have made Machiavelli proud. Shit like this really makes one appreciate having real friends.
So true. If you can learn anything from these people, cherish the real friend that you have because it could be a lot worse like their trainwreck.>>887268
I'll begrudgingly admit that I do like Mai Magi's winter aesthetic. It's just ironic that these girls are not Goth. I wouldn't call their looks Goth neither. Dark? Yes. But Goth? No. Maybe it's because I've been in the scene for a long time now and I just noticed that actual fans of the music wear things that kinda give a nod to Goth music and with these girls or Fake Munro & Toxic
Whiner, I don't get "goth" vibe from them at all.
But in saying all that, I can also admit that even though these chicks aren't Goth nor do their looks make me think Goth, some of their (Magi or Psychara) looks can be quite neat looking from a dark aesthetic. It's just a shame they are boring individuals who try too hard.>>887345
It's just insulting really. She has one "job", ONE "JOB". Her content is not deep, doesn't take that much editing, and she has a shit ton of time. >>887385
It kinda reminds me of Allison (Goblin Queen) when she was going on and on about her Viking roots (Is she still doing that?) which was sad because I understand that getting into something new can be exciting and fun but you shouldn't let it take over your whole sense of self.
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I have to admit I kind of like IBF painting, not mind blowing but I don’t hate them.
Can the snowflakes leave the hate forum, fucking please?
Calling someone a nazi or white supremacist because they larp Vikings or people from the medieval period is some next level retardation. Go cry on your Twitter about, not here.
Legit never thought I’d have to read that sort of stupidity here. >>887400
This is cringe, but no milk. Is there any milk on her? >>887665
She hasn’t been posting much and she’s still in NZ. Maybe she’s finally moved back and getting her shit together. Kaya should take note
I agree anon, it actually looks kinda nice. At the very least, she showed something creative that doesn't have to do with clothes. >>887669> She hasn’t been posting much and she’s still in NZ. Maybe she’s finally moved back and getting her shit together. Kaya should take note
We can only hope she did but I dunno, something tells me she'll be back to the old routine once the holidays pass.
genuinely didn't know she had any talent in her at all, i thought she was Kaya minus the faded looks.
pretty sure with her retarded following she could make a living off of that kinda painting.
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