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General thread for alt-cows, cows in the alt scene who usually use that to fuel their cow like behaviour.
Jake Munro & Toxic
It's Black Friday
Kat von D
Of Herbs and Altars
Avelina de Moray
Jude Bishop (big cow but minor here as she has her own thread)
Previously on alt-cows:
-Jake dresses like a 5 y.o. for attention (pic), tried audiobooks and lazily gave up, continues dull vlogs
-Kaya still whines over nothing. Attended a SitC panel, said brands don't sponsor her bc she's goff (it's really bc her vids are subpar)
-IBF moves to Paisley, Scotland, to escape past bad impulsive decisions, all goes wrong but she won't go home
-Adora stopped stringing along coalcandy, still parties and posts lewds despite being a mother
-Kat still raising Leafar antivaxx silently after getting hate for it
-Herbs' mental health apparently improving, still lives with parents, responded to Eugenia Cooney
-Seb still fake lgbt, Dre has been without toxic
friend Kelly for a while now, Erin still a poseur, Avelina still pushing her totally goff band, not much activity from Drac
Last thread: >>>/snow/823089
Agreed. You just know she's not, and never has been, genuinely into goth. She always looks like she's in a costume.
She only created a channel to get free shit, hoard it, and get more. She and Jake act like they're owed everything for doing nothing and complain about every little thing like they're sooo hard done by. They're both going to struggle when they're older, fatter, uglier, and even more irrelevant. They might actually have to get a REAL JOB
And before that, she had even more views. That's a dying channel for ya.
Trying to be as unbiased as possible when watching her, but damn, even with a pop up streaming app, l lasted a few mins only.
I lost interest in her channel years ago because no one wants to see repetitive videos of a disinterested youtuber, who fails to be engaging & actually enjoying making videos.
I'm pretty sure Kaya doesn't enjoy doing youtube at all anymore but she also doesn't know who she is without it. without calling herself a goth and doing unboxing on youtube all kaya is is a sad woman with no job and no plans for the future and that can be pretty scary to face so she continues the cycle.
Connie Glynn (noodlerella) made an interesting video about it and how she had an identity crisis because she believed she had to look and act a certain way online to keep her viewers and I think that's kaya's big problem too
that's hilarious, yes he says it's his favorite game - or at least one of them - so he should know how to play it.>>855221
yea, agree with the other anon that she complains about making content, but also complains that she can't do things b/c she feels like she should film and doesn't always want to get dressed up, which she really doesn't have to if she leaves her face out. she could do vlogoween or a drawing challenge, something more creative than taking things out of a box or occasionally going outside. like she's already forgotten about those ppl she did a video with and acted like they were going to do so many gothy adventures.
when you choose to do something creative as a job, you have to be consistent with content or ppl will lose interest and move on to something else.
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Jake's selling tshirts and holy shit
could he not have touched up these photos with some photoshop or something? he looks like an old haggard man
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Wants to work with a LARP company
Doesnt actually want to LARP, just wants the free stuff
And she wonders why most brands won't take her seriously
this is absurd. Just after >>855214
said she looks like she's in costume, too.
legit looks like he has a skin disease with that purple stuff all over his arms/neck. he actually sold the shirt he wore in the video for almost $90 and someone bought it. also funny he can edit his pix for ig but for promoting his own merch he looks a mess.>>855397
right, if she wants to incorporate certain things into her looks, just fucking do it and stop dropping not so subtle hints for free shit when she doesn't seem to appreciate all the stuff that has been sent to her.
I'm just now watching Freyja's new video, not even half way through and I'm already fuming
>I fucked up my apartment, then had to repaint it, my life is so hard
>I knew something HORRIBLE would happen when I was at the airport
>my bags were lost bc of plane crash
>all those people died, but my bags were lost, poor me:((( Im cursed:(((
Literally how does this fat, lazy, stupid, narcissistic, freeloading, overly entitled cunt have fans let alone financial supporters? I really hope all of her tween patrons wake up and stop supporting her and she goes broke living on the street. She should have been on that plane crash.
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I'm sorry to disrespect Rumpy like this
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I don't follow her on youtube but clicked the video of her woe is me song.
Bitch, dark humor IS NOT saying a plane crash where people died is karma for your bags full of shillstar being accidentally lost in transit. PEOPLE. FUCKING. DIED.
To add to that, I swear she's mentioned chest infections before. I'm guessing all her patreon money goes towards garbage food.
IBF's pride amazes me. She doesn't want to leave a crappy situation (one that she admitted was her fault in the song but later edited it out) because she thinks going back to NZ would be proving people like all of us on this thread right kek
An airplane crashing and killing people is karma for her bags that got lost? Really gives you insight into the type of person she is.>>855474
reminds me of something onision would post
>>855402>how does this fat, lazy, stupid, narcissistic, freeloading, overly entitled cunt have fans
I used to be her fan about year and a half ago, before i discovered lolcow. She kind of wasn't like that, at least she posted videos almost weekly, it was entertaining to watch. When you don't think about details, she seems to be an actual adult goth who still can dress however she wants while traveling a lot, finding goth love in another country, and for many people younger than her it seems like a goal.
Then you learn that she is a scammer, has no job at all and charm starts to fade away - all of that i learned here and this musical video is the first one where she provides so much detail about her actual life. I think a lot of people will see now how stupid and entitled she is
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I wonder how people STILL support her while she barely uploads,always complains,doesn't keep up with patreon etc.Unless they are newer fans,I doubt the people who were there from the first time she asked money to marry are still watching her
I havent watched the video about her bags and the plane crash but this must be one of the shittiest things I've read.She does sound like onision justifying her shitty humor
Also, @nosebleeds and another guy she befriended during Jake's rip-off of 7 Rings and Tainted Love. They posted pics, and even a vlog or two, hanging out on different occasions. Now, nothing.>>855306
Don't know if it's just a coincidence but Kelly Eden, the girl Jake thirsts for, got into LARP just to dress like a slutty elf. Hmm.>>855474
Freya dark humour still has to have taste. Maybe yours didn't because you were improvising, save it for when you can plan. Ah but you don't care about planning, like not posting for weeks and then your first vid back is a list of excuses.>>855478
Same here I was a fan when she made content. Her visa wedding, and lying about the wedding being paid-view and keeping the cash, got me thinking. And she just went down from there.
When's the last time she made content? Her patreons should leave. It'd make her realise her fans are real people her job is to make content for. Them blindly throwing cash makes her think she can use them to fund her shit life choices, and then dramatises the fallout from those choices for views/money since she's too lazy for real content now, cycle continues. Or just quit YT. "I want stability!" Mmkay.
Ah, the old I said something shitty that people didn't like, I better tell them it was just a dark joke and they didn't get it because theyre too sensitive
tactic commonly used by assholes.
I fail to understand how saying you have bad karma because OTHER people died is even a joke in the first place.
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>>855214>Agreed. You just know she's not, and never has been, genuinely into goth. She always looks like she's in a costume.
And this is exactly why she's losing followers online. Her fans are no longer young tweens/teens. They're in their late teens to early 20s now, and eventually researched what goth actually is and dropped Kaya. She was merely a gateway into dark shit for them. This would also explain Jake's sudden popularity despite him looking like a pastel juggalo, he looks weird and that's enough for alt kids. They'll eventually grow out of him too. >>855402>I really hope all of her tween patrons wake up and stop supporting her and she goes broke living on the street.
Same, but I think her emo fans will just defend her in the end "real goffz understand darque
humor!!", There was a small rumor going around that she talks shit about her fans. The day she gets on cam and does that will be the end imo
You pretty much got it. She's such a boring individual who has no real interests outside of complaining to make herself seem more important than she actually is and eating. You know I worry because eventually all this is gonna collapse as hard as when she got buried under her hoard of clothes lol. Like what comes next? >>855402
Not sure if you saw the last thread but some of her fans are slowly seeing this. Frustrating though, they still aren't outright getting it. So many of them were jumping through hoops to defend their gross entitled brat by saying things like "I hope you're not serious" and the like. No, this is who she really is. And with how she's not listening to reason even from her fans who are telling her to go home, she very well may end up homeless in Scotland if her fans finally get the memo and stop supporting her ass when they see her for the
> fat, lazy, stupid, narcissistic, freeloading, overly entitled cunt
that she is. >>855478
Dame. Used to be a fan and thought that she was a respectable person and would always tune into watch her videos even if it was a topic I didn't care about but then I discover this site and find out about the Wedding scam and then it all made sense why she was able to travel despite not having a job. And it just got worse from there including looking back on Louvre incident and seeing that she really brought the situation on herself because she can't dress down and so on. I didn't want to believe it because around this time I was already so over Kaya because I thought her content was boring but when she made the video where she said she doesn't listen to Goth music, that was what cemented her being a poseur and I tuned her out. Lolcow just made me more aware of how much of a lazy Goblin Kaya is. So I really wanted to like IBF to make up for this fallout but now I'm just disgusted by her.
All I can say is thank goodness we have better alternative YouTubers out there these days from Cadaver Kelly talking about actual Goth topics to even someone like Ready to Glare who talks about controversial or weird current events.>>855593
So in a way Jake is becoming the new Kaya. Kaya is almost gonna be irrelevant and now Jake is the new taste of the hour for poser, cringe Goff for the alt kids until they also grow up and see how much of a poser he is.
And yeah her emo fans are a trip with the lengths they'll go to defend their Goff queen. It really is gonna take a slip of the tongue in video form for them to see her for who she really is like with that one girl who forgot to edit out herself abusing her dog.
I feel extra dumb n gullible for finally discovering who she really is until Ruadhan dropped his vid, and landing here on lolcow.
To think she was still my fav youtuber a couple of months ago. Shoot me already kek.
I unsubscribed from all of her shit after the crash karma bullshit, and she has the guts to post this >>855474
. I wanna slap this bitch so bad. >>855593
Exactly. At some point you realize that it's just an unboxing channel of spoopy things, while occasionally doing smth else, & tbh not worthwhile cuz personally l hate lengthy videos.
Also, rambling vids. I think no one is interested in listening to someone's fake problems.
I still feel bad for not dropping her earlier, despite noticing quite a few weird things she did:not wanting to tone down her looks to visit some places just for the sake of her goff queen status, being a total attention whore in her orange wig, dropping doormat for über grufti deutsch dude, and going back to him when everything went to shit. (I feel extra bad for obsolete pleasures man)
Let's face it, doormat is also a manipulative shit, so they truly deserve each other.
She should have never left NZ, and as l read in a couple of comments, even kiwis think she's full of shit, especially with the no opportunities part, when someone like shaaanxo (a mua) is doing quite well with her 3.2m subs.
It's cliche goth shit. >>855653
It's still under copyright so he could get bollocked for that.
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>>855733>Did Goth just end up turning into a 'who can look the most ridiculous' competition because dressing like a moderately freakish person stopped attracting enough attention?
what do you mean?
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>dressing like a moderately freakish person
are we going to have another thread with 3/4 of about look/makeup/frequency of washing hair?
Don't disrespect cinema strange, by comparing them to a clown like him.
Those are actual artists, not some metalhead fool labeling himself and everything he does as goth, when it clearly isn't.
Again, you don't like what is posted here, just ignore it, or even better, leave.
Kaya seems to be actually slightly more genuinely into this nature hippie stuff than her other 'interests' - she seems genuinely happy in some of the recent videos. It's just that they're a) pretty basic and b) not spoooooky goffic edgelord stuff that appeals to the teen/tween babybat demographic like Jake's crap, nor does it have enough depth to appeal to adult goths, and it isn't actually witchcrafty enough to appeal to the witchy/occult-trend demographic. It's very clear she's only in it for the ~magical aesthetic~ and some of her videos like the terrarium one are actually half decent for that, but most of them are just too basic and mundane. She either needs to up her game and really put the effort into her videos, or get a real job and let YouTube just be a hobby, because she's not going to be able to financially sustain herself off YouTube for long with decline views - which will also mean less and less free stuff for her (probably a good thing as she's a hoarder). I feel like she's at least getting out a bit more these days, and as I think her depression is genuine (even if she aggravates it with poor lifestyle most of the time), she's at least doing something positive for that.
Honestly, the best thing for her would be to get away from Jake, get a job so she's forced to learn to be an adult rather than living like a teenager, and to pay more attention to what she actually likes rather than being vapid for the internet.
Oh absolutely. I used to feel bad for Mr. Doormat until I saw how he dropped Obsolete Pleasures so fast when IBF's sham marriage fell apart. That is just a dick hing to do because it feels like he never really cared about her and the only person who would drag someone through the ringer like that is an asshole so yeah I agree that they deserve each other. >>855650
IWAV is Gothic Literature, not Goth but eh that's not really the issue here. Anyway it's not gonna make him Goth and just watch him get bored of it real quickly and not bother finishing it lol.>>855708
I just vomited in my mouth a little because I can see this happening LOL>>855733
Nah, real Goth is still here and there are genuinely real Goth YouTubers carrying the torch and doing it with grace. Try not to pay attention to the Smurf's creepy cousin. >>855814
I notice that people keep saying she needs to get away from Jake to be a better person but are we sure about that? Look at IBF who wasn't with Mr. Doormat after the sham marriage fell through. She was still an entitled brat. How do we not know that it won't be the same for Kaya as she'll still have her good number of fans who kiss her ass and enable her whining and complaining? >>855884
I feel like Kaya is getting support from her family. I just can't see her realistically being able to pay for her rent and utilities solely just on Patreon Money and YouTube Adsense.>>855907
Okay, just some shitty mallcore that people are gonna look back on and go "How did I think this sounded good?"
Sorry kek. Noticed way too late that what he makes doesn't even belong to metal either.
Your description though. +1 for the laugh.
Idk if that's really true, since she's still following manic moth, but not following mai. Shit idk why they're all into these elliptic insinuations, spill the milk already! >>856080
They're too busy growing their online followers and caring way too much abt stupid aesthetics, instead of growing up and being better people.
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She can't make a new video and apparently has no money, but she can afford to travel to a different city, not bother to check train times, then moan she can't get back and could possibly get lynched.
100% thats the angle she's going for. She needs something big enough to warrant media attention again so that she can lure in more subs and money with her victim
Can this bitch like just shut the fuck up already? All this is her own damn fault. If you're too assed to not check train times, why the fuck would you wear heels when you think you're gonna be walking for a long period of time? And YOU fucking chose to move to a rough neighborhood and you expect us to feel sorry for you when you have the option to just go home and start fresh? Fuck Off.>>856336
I can see the title now. "GOTH HATECRIME">>856394
FFR. She is beyond the state of pity, now she is just a pathetic idiot.
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It gets worse. Her pathetic faaans came to rescue her. This is beyond fucking pathetic.
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Her fans are gullible and Freya uses it. She isn't the brightest either, the heavy bag, heels and area she chose to live are her fault. But when she makes a woe is me post in the hopes a fan will come running, a lot of them sadly do. I think that's also why she posted her fixing the German apartment, hoping a fan would offer to help. Otherwise she would've done it silently like most of the things she did after Germany, she did them silently cos she knew fans can't help her with them e.g. legal stuff.
But of course she still needs to milk them in a big pity party video, she monetises her whole life. And I think that's why she still makes bad decisions, like "oh if it doesn't work out, at least I can cry to my fans for sympathy and/or money." Her patreons literally need to stop donating. It will wake her entitled self up a bit.
>>856335>Scotland's most dangerous citylaughs in American
If she doesn't have enough money for emergency bus fare at least then she shouldn't be traveling to places that require transport to get to>>856430>Her patreons literally need to stop donating.
Unfortunately there's always going to be someone willing to pony up for an 'influencer' no matter what horrible shit they do, and freeloading is on the 'normal' end of the spectrum for influencers
Will these people ever fucking learn? See this is the shit, this is why Freya is the way she is and at this point if they seriously throw money at her for her next big scam and then get pissed when the money disappears, they really have no one to blame but themselves. >>856430
At this point if her fans an't see how much of a user she is, the only thing that will finally wake them up is if someone does a big expose' video on her and highlight all the shit she's done. Because you would think by now with her refusal to go back home where she would be safe and not listening to reason, they would see how she really is the creator of her own problems.>>856447
Most likely in a closet that if she tries to open again, she'll get buried like she did the last time lol
this is so good. cheap, nasty and downright leech evidence. why don't you pay your own way Freya? i bet she never even gave the people she stays with anything at all. not even cooked a meal for them. she's the biggest scammer. i hope you enjoy being with people who think you're amazing but are too stupid to know you are a living on the basis you are an eternal victim
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and here's the instagram post.
I saw in her story that she attended a drag show too, & she has the nerve to cry about being broke.
Wtf is wrong with people giving her support and going as far as to invite her. She's by no means in need!
Yeah. I wouldn't go with "insane" but just wasn't really all there. This is why the person who makes a big expose video on her would have to be someone who is more put together.>>856542
Wait she did? (I don't follow her on Social media anymore). Then fucking hell man, bitch could've just called an uber or a taxi to haul her lazy ass. >>856562
It was back in 2017 if I remember correctly. IBF got into it with the woman who was doing a Sophie Lancaster fundraising project for the organization. They release a Calendar ever year and all proceeds go to the foundation. I can't remember the specifics because it's been awhile but Sophie Lancaster's mother reached out to her asking if she could spread awareness about the charity through a tweet and IBF ignored her and later snubbed her saying "guilt tripping" won't do anything to make someone do something or something like that. Personally I think she declined it because she wasn't gonna get paid or be the center of attention considering how fame hungry she is. This was also after the fallout when she did that transformation video poking fun at normies.
I skimmed back a bit and here's the thread, it took place in thread #2.>>>/snow/250451
Thanks anon! Holy shit, it's amazing (and honestly scary) to me how quickly this was swept under the rug, deleted comments and all. You would think that, as someone who so willingly broadcasts her experiences with "discrimination", IBF would be supportive of SOPHIE. But I guess it's not in her best interest because she wouldn't be in the center of attention.
This really does make her current shenanigans in Scotland seem highly suspicious, as if she's willingly putting herself in harm's way to garner attention and sympathy. What the fuck.
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There's this too. I hope it isn't too blurry.
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Why waste your talent on this? What does the actually achieve? They are all so willing to enable her shitty selfish behavior. I wish they could see how she is just manipulating them.
Hey most recent vid tells us that her mother "sent her the wedding money" to help hey stay afloat in Scotland.
So… Most of it is gone, if not all of it. The wedding was either a pipe dream or claiming the money is "gone" is a manipulative tactic to get $$$ from supporters
Ah okay, I didn't know that part. But I'm guessing this person had her reasons not to include IBF or TT in the calendar (especially TT who was already on her downward spiral in 2017).>>856734
Haha yeah I really do think it's a matter of time. I don't think she'd get an actual Content Cop by Ian but maybe someone who is within the online scene who knows of her bullshit. >>856782
I am just lost for words on this. I'm… I'm speechless LOL
Either they didn't see it or they're just that mindless. >>856848
It's just so fucking pathetic how these blind fangirls/fanboys can't see they are being played.
Fucking seriously?! Not only is her life "pretty hard" BECAUSE OF HER OWN BAD DECISIONS, she has the money to go to gigs and shows, get trains around Scotland and eat out, she's clearly got the money to FLY TO NZ and back soon for a visit..
There are ACTUAL needy people in the world. I'm fucking gobsmacked.
Curious, has anyone called her out in the comments section? I know we most likely won't ever see a content cop style video on her anytime soon but perhaps some people are calling her out in the comments? >>856994
Yeah I remember this as well and I felt pity for her at the time because I was a stupid fangirl who thought she could do no wrong but when I looked back, the bitch really brought it on herself. I wouldn't be surprised if she was posing on the graves while snapping selfies/pictures. >>857000
We also saw confirmation of this in her "Normal transformation" video (the one where she ore that orange wig). She said she felt weird that no one was staring at her or making comments. At the time young me thought "Oh maybe she means it in a way where it's kinda nice to not be stared at" but in hindsight, this most likely made her insecure because she wants to be stared at and the center of attention (considering she dresses OTT all the time. Even when she tones down the clothing, she'll go dramatic on the makeup and/or hair).
I know that you're right about her being dull and having no personality. The bitch never talks about anything of actual substance. She doesn't even nerd out about the things she does likes. It's just clothing & makeup or bitching and complaining about how shit her life is when she has no one to blame but herself.
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this was not a flattering video for her, she mentioned on twitter about "chonking up" and it's like, you're just noticing this now? and she got all this stuff sent to her but is whining about putting together an outfit and not having a dress for it b/c she has a need for it to be so specific. just pick something out of your fucking hoard.
meanwhile, jakey boy is all chuffed about his shirts selling out, which i'm sure isn't hard to do when you make a specific amount. he's planning on doing a halloween themed one, releasing new pins and even putting out jewelry. is he going to buy a bunch of cheap ones and just resell them lol.
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Fresh steaming bullshit
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Remember when he made his first pins and it was just a black square with "make it a great day" in white text. Like those blank "insert text here" meme templates. Can't think of anyone more uninspired but up his own arse at the same time. Except Kaya maybe.>>857265
Let's be real she would monetise the shit out of something dramatic happening to her because that's how she makes her money. Like the Kardashians except on YouTube and as a one-woman show.
And yeah she has a film degree and has a job making videos on YouTube, you'd think she'd put the two together. But her content is just low quality hauls because she wants that easy money.
yea the spacing on them was really weird and he probably got the lowest quantity possible to make it seem like ppl wanted them when they all sold.
that matrix video was pointless, he had time to do his makeup but couldn't iron that vest. the thirst comments give me second hand embarrassment.
yeah.on this >>838051
post she says that she will get Moon Moon "when she finds a home to bring her to" which doesn't seem to be happening soon
Trust me, despite IBF’s delusions, the people who took in all of her various pets know exactly who & what she is. The pets are all safe in new and caring homes and that’s where they’ll stay.
If Freyja can’t even manage to secure a visa for herself, there’s no way she’ll manage to get animals she abandoned out of Germany.
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Just checked the comments on that post. Yeahhh right, in a thread where actual screenshots n receipts are provided, there's still room for doubt.
Since y'all lurk here, IBF has a good track record of using people's money for her own sake.
Started with a gofundme to go to bats day (how self centered is that), to getting away to Germany by using the donated money to her marriage with mr. Owl.
When it all went to shit, now she wants to live ''her new dream'' by living in Scotland, and spending the cash for her upcoming wedding.
We all know she'll start asking her braindead fans for funds. And ofc they'll provide.
If bluntly exposing the truth is seen as hateful, then be it.
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Never stops complaining or ebegging. God, she is so pathetic. Wonder how long before a fan gives her money for internet.
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all of IBF's stans in one comment
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Don't worry anon, same here and I think a lot of others here may have felt the same way years ago LOL. But as we've learned, not all is what it seems. We only see what they want us to see and hope we don't catch on to who they really are.>>857949
YES. Fucking YES. Not sure if you're following this but be sure to post the response this person gets, I'd love to see the mental gymnastics that are gonna be used to defend IBF's shitty behavior. The only thing Candi forgot to mention is the Patreon donations as well, that's another source of extra lazy income she gets (Lazy because she hasn't done a proper video in months and yet expects them to still support her).
I believe most of us, if not all, were still fans until she started pulling too many stunts. I was a pretty dense bitch for a very long time too, so you aren't alone in this.
I'm so glad many people are finally waking up, hopefully her patrons will leave too. >>857946
Aesthetics above everything else, as usual.
I was never a fan, but I thought she was nice, pretty and harmless and found her videos interesting.
I think the massive hiatus made me think she was a loser - you can even edit and upload a video from your phone. To somehow be incapable of uploading a single video for months made me think she was a loser. Plus the obsession with living in Scotland without a job or visa lined up. She needs to get organised and do something with her following.
she gave the other cat to her "totally abusive
ex husband that she's still friends with" if I'm not mistaken?
Don't forget the fucking ig acc for Moon Moon. Poor cat should have never left NZ, cuz now she keeps being dumped in catteries, probably still stuck in one as we speak.
IBF can't even take care of herself ffs, so owning pets isn't an option for her.
ahh thanks for that.
I maintain IBF would best be suited to a pet rock.
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Not in a cattery. Outing myself, but MoonMoon is safe, still in Germany. I just fed her breakfast and I promised her she never has to get on a plane ever again.
Pic/screenshot? This is an image board after all.
I appreciate the speculating about situations, but I'd anyone has convos or images with juice please bring them in it's getting kinda stagnant
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Last pic of Thanatos on this guy’s Facebook. He’s a good guy and it looks like that cat is living his best life.
Last mystery to solve is where did the birds go? I hope that cow didn’t just set them free.
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The way he refers to himself makes me cringe. "Daddy" "metal boi"
We need more people like you, l was really worried and sad for the cat, thanks so much anon, l wish you all the best. >>858269
Don't be like that pls. Just hope people will discover will catch up on his bullshit, just like IBF.
You know anon that's a good question. Looking back, sure she may have played a few Goth songs in her videos but it's intereting how she never made a video talking about Goth music outside of her old 2014 introduction to Goth music video where she touched up on the basic bands. Something tells me it may all be for show as well.
Also good to hear MoonMoon is in good hands and hopefully will not be moved around ever again.
Same anon ( >>858302
). Yeah I remember that and I thought it was pathetic because even if a music video would not rank in as many views as her haul crap, it would show she's not trying to use the scene just to make a quick buck (which I mean… She is but still lol). There were (and currently are) plenty of modern Goth bands making music today so I mean, it wouldn't have to be a worry of reviewing something old. >>858314
This most likely will keep happening until someone calls her out and that video gets a good amount of attention.>>858321
But see that is why IBF is such a fucking joke. She's such a money whore that she can't even bother to show herself as a real person with real interests. It's always me, me, my "HARD" life, and money, money, money. She just blows but yeah I think it's safe to say that like TT, her fanbase doesn't really have actual Goths in it either or if there are, they aren't a big number.
But I agree that it's not as bad as the smaller Goth channels actually remind me that there are actual Goths who care about what the scene is truly about and aren't farting out haul video after haul video. If I remember correctly, Cadaver Kelly reviewed the new She Past Away album this year and it was so refreshing to relate to someone reviewing a band that is relevant in the scene and makes great music. And then there's the Project Goth Playlist Tag which a good many people have participated in so yeah you're definitely right anon.>>858338
> She shows up looking uber goff, waving her selfie stick around , snapping selfies with other “influencers”, all the while while stuffing her face with food and booze and spending excess money on clothes and accessories she doesn’t need
I'm just picturing this in my head and it's so fucking hilarious to think of lol Eh I guess so but if Merciful Nuns are one of her "favorite" bands, you'd think she would round up some of her fans and go see them play together or something. But hey, what do I know? lol
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As if it really happened… Isn't she "antisocial", "shy" and "awkward around people". And I think she said before that she hates kids.
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so yesterday, Mai Magi put on her instagram story something about how someone she thought was a friend has stolen a bunch of her designs with the intention of selling them.
Lila Chris just made a post saying she is about to start a shop… I remember these two hanging out at past M'Era Luna events and WGT etc. I also see that although Lila follows both Mai and Manic Moth, neither of them are following her back…
Makes me wonder because wasn't that why people thought MM and Mai stopped being friends with Psychara - "stealing" designs etc?
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Source on IBF saying she hates kids? She's a drama queen, but this is an image board and the polling is to produce sources and images for potential drama, not just bash on people for things we THINK they might have said at some point
That being said, her tweet about that child is clearly made up lol
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I haven’t found a single positive thing to come from this cow. At what point in life do you choose to make life miserable
yea I find it hard to believe she hates kids when she has always said she wanted to have them
also agree the tweet is bullshit kek
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Oh wow LilaChris is a part of this circle too? I used to watch her videos and even though she was another one of those girls who thought that because they wore black and listened to Marilyn Manson and HIM or other Metal bands made them Goff, I thought she was alright (just not a Goth). >>858951
Why the fuck didn't she bring her glasses then? We've seen her wear them before. Where is this chick's common sense? Does she really lack it that much? >>858995
Whnge Whinge Whinge. Bitch you chose this life, accept it or tone the fuck down a bit when you're going out on a daily basis. It's not rocket science.
yes she is. I even think >>844510
is about her or runa.jold. Does she know Manic Moth is backstabbing her lol?
Anon may be referring to this video. At the one minute mark she says she hates these kids who are terrified by her appearance. Her edgelord ass says ""I love children…. with gravy and potatoes."
She does say she wants to have kids with Mr Owl and dress them up all goth.
You beat me to it kek. I remember that she was always interested in having kids ( she said that in a past q&a)>>858695
It's true,l was the supermarket aisle.>>859237
Yeah she does that often, there are a couple of old "groceries outfits" on her ig. But she does have her lazy days too (proof on ig as well.>>858834
I remember mai posting a story around wgt, saying she broke down in tears because she saw some girl stealing and selling her " designs", and confronting her didn't solve anything.
Maybe the bitch thinks what she makes is too speshul n unique, so she declares war to anyone making Smth remotely similar. >>858951
Still wearing makeup despite the eye infection? N now not wearing glasses cuz Goff lewk above everything else? She needs to get her brain checked.>>859160
Any milk on that? Runa.jold seems rather chill. The two MMs are going wild lately, not smth you'd expect from ~friendly faeries~ .
Same ano (>>859628 )
Eh you're probably right. Maybe I'm giving her too much credit but I just can't help but feel that something is amidst because the gravy train won't last forever and there's just something in the back of my head that IBF is hiding something but I guess we'll just have to see as time moves on.
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Pretty speechless. You can see how wrecked her skin truly is.
Isn't Freya a natural Ginger and she simply shaved her eyebrows off and draws them on? I remember she said in her "Normal transformation" video (not the Kylie Jenner one, the first one) that she was a natural redhead.>>859774
For real. New Rocks are designed so OTT that if you wear them with an OTT outfit, it's just gonna look like a mess. She really should just use her simple boots when doing these OTT looks.
I don't think anyone is wishing violence on her directly: it just seems alot like she's going out of her way for something to happen so she can be a victim
all over again
No one is wishing her violence but it's a fact that she currently lives in a rougher area now and dressing so OTT is not the best idea. And it just feels like what >>859901
that she's intentionally doing all this so she can have something bad happen to her to turn into a media outlet headline.>>859939
Right, I thought so.
Of course she's gonna put on a "charming and likeable" front in front of her viewers but it's called reading between the lines. Look at how much she is whinging. Look at how she's choosing to make things harder for herself when it's not even necessary (and even dangerous). Look at how much she e-begs and refuses to just help herself by getting a proper job (she could've gotten the work visa if she got a job, it's not rocket science). Consider the fact that even though Mr. Owl is a doormat, Freya up and left him for another man who she only talked to for a month (and ended up trying to use to sneak her way into Germany and didn't even bother to do the bare minimum like learn the language).
So no, if you actually put 2 and 2 together and read between the lines, that is when you begin to see IBF for who she really is.
Try reading the comment >>860087
was replying to in the first place, you've both entirely missed the mark.
>>860044>Ideally nobody should have to dress a certain way to avoid harm being done to them
wow, no shit? ideally nobody should have to lock their doors at night because people should be decent enough not to break in, but you probably lock your at night anyway right? and we're also not saying that her assault would be "not as bad" if she milked it for attention.
i think i speak for most people in this thread when i say that my issue with freyja is not that she wants to dress like that per se but that she puts aesthetics above EVERY THING else in pretty much all situations. she cant go out and do anything without getting goth'd up to the nines, and she cares more about how she looks than anything else she does- and not only that, but then she has the nerve to whine and bitch about the way people treat her for it.
for example, she went to paris and got snubbed at the louvre because of how she was dressed. that sucks BUT literally all she would have to do would be wear a little less makeup/edgy clothes/edgy jewelry. come on, is it really THAT hard? tons of people (like me) would kill for the opportunity to see the louvre and this whiny selfish cunt cant be fucked to tone down her appearance just a little bit
to experience it, and then on top of that did her ~woe is i~ spiel. sorry but getting discriminated for the amount of makeup you wear is a first world problem. i dont feel bad for her in the least. also, she whines about the attention she gets and acts like she hates it, but if you watch her """transformation""" videos where she goes in public and people aren't staring at her, you can tell she hates it. i for one believe she dresses the way she does as a way of making herself the center of attention rather than because it's actually how she wants to dress. i know that's a cliche thing to say about goths/alternative people, and i didnt believe that at first (was a fan of her for years) but after following her, that's what i believe now.
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Adora is at the hospital. I love how she NEEDS to sport the skank look even at the emergency room. Speaking of people who are unable to ever tone down. Who the fuck goes like this to the emergency room/hospital appointments?
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She isnt milky, just so annoying.
Aswell as being a hoarder, she super drags out her unboxings. Can't quite stand her, she is a teacher too; can you be a teacher and a Youtuber at the same time?
Norwegianhalloween is another hoarder
She's gonna find that virtually impossuble because she has no real interests. Let me guess, that list has "haul" in the title somewhere or "unboxing". Whooppee because she hasn't already uploaded millions of those. Just sad.>>860342
For real anon. She's already burned out when she hardly uploads any worthwhile content. That's not gonna fly with her viewers forever (or maybe it will, they've stayed with her this long).>>860359
Oh right, that happened. Just another example that if you simply tone things down in appropriate situations, you can stay out of this kind of unnecessary trouble. Again, you can look dark and goff in a subtle way. >>860372
Kinda. But remember she's a big fan of Toxic
Holy Halloween lol. Why does she need so much Halloween stuff? >>860404
Also gotta add that she's another one of those posers who thinks that because she likes Halloween and spooky shit but not the music makes her Goth. I think she was featured in that cringy alphabet Goth A-Z video… >>860408
Same here anon. Halloween can be a good time to get a few decorations but there really has to be a limit before it can turn into clutter.
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This is honestly ridiculous. There are people who are truly deserving of our help that get nothing, and these fans are willing to throw money at someone who is capable of earning her own.
That aside, the issues that IBF has, don't appear monetary. I am very understanding when it comes to depression, and mental illness, but there comes a point, granted a very difficult point, where you have to own up to your problems, and do something about it! Continually throwing money at her, and supporting her poor decisions will not actually help in the long run.
You're probably right. If it wasn't Goth, it would be something else. >>860536
Guilty. I used to feel bad for him because I thought he was just some poor sucker who didn't realize he was being taken advantage of but then when Freya's sham marriage fell apart and Mr. Owl was so quick to break up with Obsolete_Pleasures just like that, that's when I knew he really was a doormat and I just could not feel bad for him anymore.>>860571
This too. I keep forgetting that Mr. Owl is in his 40s and it's just… Not in good taste to be in a relationship with a teenager who is still in high school. I don't know if it's different in New Zealand but yeah, just inappropriate. >>860689
Giving the biggest mega sigh. Yep, enablers.>>860717
said. Try not to worry or beat yourself over this, most of us were fans of one or the other or both at one time only to catch on at some point how manipulative, narcissistic, lazy, and/or just plain awful. I'm sure most of us didn't want to think these things but when you look at things with a critical eye, you just can't ignore the issues anymore. >>860732
You could be right and that >>860742
said could indicate she uses her careless spending and traveling as a way to cope with some sort of depression but at the end of the day, you have to help yourself because she's had so many opportunities to get help and there's only so much one can do.
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I bet other people have told her to get help throughout her life, especially if we see it, someone else has to acknowledge that she’s got issues.
Unfortunately she would never use the money responsibly, she would just go back to galavanting across the world and drinking cheap liquor, running back to NZ when she fucks up somewhere, crying on her mom and Mr. Owl, hoarding money, and then immediately jumping back on a plane when her life becomes too settled and normal.
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right, it's not her followers' jobs to think of ideas, that what she wanted to do and i'm sure that one can use google for ideas. or heck, just jump on the trends that are already happening and make them ~spooky~, that would be better than showing off more clothes or taking things out of a box.
do some of those five minute crafts or whatever hacks and put your own spin on them. it's not that hard, and maybe if you stopped whining about everything ppl would be more prone to wanting to watch your content.
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in what world is this considered a good look?
I wonder if kaya still finds him attractive
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As if she would ever actually do it. We all know she is just going to lay around in her hoard pile, eat junk food and whine about how “difficult” her life is.
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(Same anon)Yep, knew it. Gorge your face with ice cream you fat, lazy, entitled cow
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Is maimagi a retard? she used to be a frumpy pasty gosurori before she met psychara and started skinwalking her bff, she ain't the one to complain about copying.
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when maimagi met psychara, suddenly she's a goth and witchy af overnight. fuck her, she's a fake bitch.
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doesn't get more obvious than this example
She literally had "witchy" tattoos in those pictures. Looks like she was going for the weeb garden witch look to me.
What's with the vendetta?
Where are the “witchy tattoos” on the pictures posted?
Cuz that looks like a straight up skin walk for the people that don’t follow these mongs
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Does her dumbfuck mum not realize we can see that Freyja currently has 350 patrons on Patreon and how many views her videos acquires per month. She may not be filthy rich but if she uses her money responsibly instead of constantly traveling, eating out, drinking, etc she can live a comfortable life without ever doing real work. 'Many hours of work' bitch where???? What has she done recently to deserve more money?
Gosh, her mum is delusional. That's why I don't believe anything she had to say about Matthias.
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Someone finally told her off. I guess the comments are being deleted though. They should just take down the stupid fundraiser
What parent wants their kid to be living on the bones of their arse, miserable in a foreign land with no security, when they can come home, live with their beloved soulmate, apply for work and visas together overseas while saving enough money and getting healthy and happy enough to make their dreams come true?
Something is not right.
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Stage mom is back… Karen needs a hobby.
She is such a dreg of a person. She could be having a "fulfilling and productive life full of creative projects and meaningful experiences" but she's so fucking lazy to do it. She's in a position that a lot of actual creative people would kill to have but she just farts it all away to be a lazy glutton. >>861092
Free clothes don't pay the bills but with all the shit she's accumulated over the years of getting it, she could've sold the clothes she doesn't wear anymore for extra money. >>861107
Exactly. Her mom is not being the sharpest tool in the shed when you can clearly see the context of her earnings (Patreon and Social Blade estimate of YouTube videos). The reason she's struggling is because she's terrible with money.>>861113
Fucking yes, thank you Diva.Destruction It's true, it feels like her mom really is trying to live vicariously through her daughter and it's pathetically sad. Like seriously stop enabling your daughters horrible lifestyle.>>861132
Do you think this will get out on YouTube?>>861163
Like seriously shut up. Diva.Destruction wasn't implying that IBF was rich. The point was that she does have some money but she's clearly mishandling it.
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Doesn't seem like IBF knows her friends posted here about Moon Moon
If she did if expect a vague passive aggressive calling out which she hasn't done yet
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Just some more begging from IBF for someone to house her. Than she can justify spending money in London
So which one is it Karen? Travel is cheap therefore she should have Patreon money saved up? Or. Freyja is broke from her move and needs a large sum of money right now?
I hope her 'friend' just directly tells her she'll never get Moon Moon back. She was bold enough to post here about Moon Moon never having to go on a plane again, may as well tell the cow that.
Perhaps Freyja does knows she's not getting her back but is playing it off like they'll get renunited soon so her fans won't turn on her for bringing a cat into another country just to ditch her.
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How does this horse face have a heap of followers? Her singing is beyond shite, looks terrible and won’t dress her age, tacky house decorations and doesn’t post anything interesting.
This one baffles me and I really want to know how she’s popular
Photo is of her trying to cover some song from HIM for her Patreons. I’ve never cringed so hard
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So many great points being made and happily no bids
She’s given different answers for where the cat(s) are, since most everyone asks about Moon the most. First she was at a cat hotel…then she was staying with a ‘friend’ who had several cats… She’s constantly vague posting because I think she did honestly give most of her pets away permanently in the first place, and the stories about them being on loan to others is total deflecting BS. She isn’t planning on getting them back. >>861143
>Something is not right.
Something really isn’t right. I wonder how Freya is ever going to recover from this. She’s pretty much given up on actually doing her ‘job’, she’s just floundering in the UK like a dolt, she has no prospects or future. Karen is trying way too hard to deflect from her daughter’s stupidity and epic fail of an existence. >>861005
I liked this look on her better than her current phase. But I think it just highlights the fact these girls are followers, even though they try to give the impression they’re so unique, special, and individualistic.
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I'm surprised the toxic
twosome haven't reached out to her. Weren't they going to london edge too? It would be a good opportunity for shameless self-promotion.
I don't think he does. He lived with Nadia, they moved into a new apartment together. I don't know of he still lives in this same apartment he shared with her, but it's not the same IBF lived.
Also, now it seems, from IBFs video surprising Mr owl that he lives in a house now
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Oh boy, anybody watching momma IBFs profiles? I don't use social media but I'm curious if this'll ruffle Freyjas moms feathers.
Also, as someone who has had to live on $0.50 ramen for weeks to survive/make rent it rubs me the wrong way that IBF whines about having "no money" but still wants to go to London Edge. Does Owl send her money or something on top of her patreon/views cash???
A. We are not a list of things
B. How about you fix yourself?
C. Stop talking in quaint verbage. You're rough as. Don't try to fool anyone that you're not.
Some parents are just Like That. They will helicopter around their kids no matter what, trying to influence their every decision, fight every stranger and would never notice how embarrassing they are for their kids. I'm sure that some of IBF's issues come from a parent who cares way too much, thus making becoming a normal-functioning adult a hard challenge for Freyja even in her thirties.
If that's the case, no wonder she'd rather live on the other side of the globe but nowhere near her mother.
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I don't know much about her outside of her shitty wannabe metal band but I feel like maybe she got more of her following when she collaborated with IBF with that tacky bag?>>861199
Yeah considering that IBF is like 33-34, it's pretty sad considering that IBF is not bothering to try to defend herself and is having her mum do it for her. Maybe it's because deep down IBF knows these people are right. >>861231> All she needs is to get some suckers to pay her travel and she can doss down with Kaya and clown boy and their chums wherever they are staying.
Considering how some of her fans are still vert quick to throw money at her, I can see that happening already.>>861248
I mean this is cool and all but I have the feeling she's either gonna puss out because of the inevitable backlash she'll get or she'll go way to light on her to the point where IBF will just disregard it. >>861266
Politeness is fine but with narcissists like IBF and her mother, they need to hear the full extent of problems. Like I said, I knew the girl would go too light on IBF. It's so sad that the only one who gave IBF a no-nonsense response happened to not be all there in the mind a bit (Ruadhan). And we saw how that turned out.>>861317>If that's the case, no wonder she'd rather live on the other side of the globe but nowhere near her mother.
If this is really the reason why she doesn't want to go home, either suck it up and get a job to support yourself so you can live or suck it up and go home temporarily and get things back in order, then leave. FFS couldn't she just stay with Mr. Doormat? Seeing how he was so fast to drop Nadia the moment IBF's sham relationship ended, he would more than likely let her live with him.
I'm sorry anon but even if her mom is batshit insane and that is why Freya doesn't want to go home, wondering around a country you don't know and putting yourself in potentially dangerous situations is not a better alternative. >>861467
Kudos to both Waningspirit and diva.destruction for speaking up on this trainwreck. Waningspirit was totally right
>What has she contributed to the gothic community and to her followers? Why does she "deserve" to be given money for doing absolutely nothing? This is a fucking joke.
Right the fuck on. She really hasn't contributed anything to the actual Goth scene. She doesn't talk about Goth music, she doesn't feature new or local Goth bands on her channel, she does donate to charities, she doesn't hold giveawats to give back to her followers, she doesn't make Goth music, she doesn't do fucking anything. And yet those dim artists think she is so deserving of money. Bitch for what? Wake the fuck up.
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I honestly think they haven't reached out because they're intimidated by her. The toxic
twosome are straight up posers and while IBF is a little bitch, she seems to (?) actually like goth music so Kaya and Jake would be out of their depth with her
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She should be filling out job applications for this but eh… It's a start I guess? Let's just see if she follows through.>>861570
Bringing up some more realness. >>861573
Oh god anon, just when I thought that maybe she is gonna turn things around, I can totally see this happening… I hope she doesn't though.>>861576
(Anon you're replying to). I get that but still, she's not making things better. Like what happens if she's wandering around at night and gets abducted or something? You see what I mean? At the very least she could at least go back to Mr. Owl's flat or even rent a small apartment for a short period of time or just, something. Anything where she's not putting herself in danger in a place she doesn't know.
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Aside from the occasional looking-like-a-busted-drag-queen, IBF’s Matthias was actually…kinda hot?
Nice jawline, pretty eyes, decently tall.
dear god this woman talks so slow, she takes 8 minutes to actually get to the point. all she really did in this video was recap the IBF drama (pretty well imo) and thankfully admits that IBF's problems are caused by herself and her impulsivity, saying that IBF needs to get her shit together. but other than that she was way too nice, and even though she admitted IBF should have toned down her look to get into the bone church that she wasn't allowed into (because of her goff appearance that the church deemed as demonic) it was still "unfair" that she would have to tone down her look. I say this is bullshit, since it's literally a church built by catholics for catholics, if they don't want someone in there that they deem demonic, how exactly is that unfair? stupid.>>861873
I thought he was generally considered attractive.
I agree. But I also think it was nice that someone who didn't come across as unhinged made a video directly addressing IBF. Angela only obliquely referred to it, though I don't blame her for doing so, because nobody needs IBF's rabid fanbase to deal with. And Ruadhan had some good points, but really undermined his own credibillity with the unfounded racism accusations, and generally came across as slightly unhinged. This made him easier to dismiss. I think this lady did a good job. I think if she'd been too harsh it would have created backlash, and would have made IBF look like a victim
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Spoiler because it’s horseface trying to be sexy?
Blurred the shit out of her face but not of her sun damaged skin or tit sag. Whyyyyyy?
yeah i suppose everything you said is true, it's nice to have a sane person criticize IBF even if they're more polite than I would have been. Ruadhan is not all there and probably made people have even more sympathy for her and just made himself look like a nutjob sjw with the racism accusation.>>861933>my grandpa just died, here have a seductive titty pic
what the actual fuck
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Dear god why
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I was looking at the comment above the one about Karen, and I am wondering why the IBF defenders keep trying to pull the ‘it’s a nice gesture! Kindness!’ card. Several people have used that excuse to justify blindly helping her/defending her choices. >>861933
I know everyone grieves differently, but she doesn’t seem to be too upset about it, lmao.>>861935
Personally for me, I felt like Ruadhan was just trying to go viral, I don’t think he was genuinely frustrated with IBF. He knows racism accusations are the easiest and cheapest way to get people worked up these days, and I think he was exploiting that angle hoping some triggered
SJW would take the bait and cause a shitstorm so that he could get asspats for ‘taking down IBF’. He’s clearly apart of the oppressed snowflakes club.>>861873
Matt is really handsome. He just seems a bit immature.
Ppl on here keep sayig noone knew hes trans or whatever, esp sence that 1 cmt a cpl threds back, but rudahan brings it up ALOThttps://youtu.be/R7QtdiB5fq8https://youtu.be/U5sEmyDPi9Uhttps://youtu.be/wayD3vARzU4
Mayb 1/2 his stream i catch, he say smthing bout it
And other ppl talk bout him being tran to:https://youtu.be/c5ySfuOfGZc
Plus than massive chest scar n weird nips. It's rly obvious.
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He is pulling the 900 quid out of his arse so people will donate.
Reckon that lonely housewife heather will be donating as we speak
oh boo-fucking-hoo, not everyone gets to do all the things. either learn how to save up or get another job beside youtube, patreon and selling merch to gullible ppl. ya'll took a twitch donation for a cemetery date that never happened but want to bitch about not going to an event, first world problems.
also, if they do wind up moving to barcelona, is he going to bitch about being all the way there and flights being five times as much lol.
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Matthias has a saggy double chin on some candid photos. There are tons of more handsome goth guys than him, but each to their own.>>861933
kekeke tit pic for grandpa's funeral announcement, fucking cringe. Mrs Horseface being a tone-deaf dolt again.>>861951
the tattoo just proves how much of a poser mai is. She never fully transitioned to anything close to goth before psychara came into the picture. Her tumblr was full of sweet lolita reposts before that.
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Or ferry-bus or train like normal people.
If they hate NI so much why don't they move to England? It's not like they've got jobs.
Besides at this rate they'll find themselves living in the Republic and then life might actually get genuinely shitty in Belfast again.
wifey got a lot of surgery or is dat chin supposed to be naturally pointy? I'm betting on cheek fillers and plastic surgery.>>862140
I'd love to hear her ebegging stories, spill the beans.
So… like a house>>861623
"Eat a pie". Not a slice of pie. A pie.>>861873
He is! He seems to be pretty tall and big too. But this is nothing new, everyone is saying this for ages>>862017
I have nothing against trans people in general, but honestly: how can you complain about being misgendered if you walk around looking like a woman? How will people even know?>>862061
He has said on reddit that he was a very ugly woman with gigantic tits. But I think he's convincing too. Maybe people misgender him thinking it's a dufe trying to be a woman, so mtf? He dresses so ambiguously, no one knows wtf goes inside your head>>862150
Yeah! It took me 10 fucking years to be able to go to a festival I wanted sooo badly to go to. It was only this year I got to. It's life. I felt sad and frustrated but not like this fucking asshole thinking the world owns it to him.>>862298
I think it's naturally ugly
wait, so he was born a female? that explains the high voice and his height. >>862028
lol you said "dairy alternatives" and then asked if there was milk and i thought you meant literal milk>>862334
they really don't look alike at all. they sort of have similar lips but other than that their faces are totally different.>>862171
is this bitch ever not complaining? does she ever do anything besides bitch and complain? i usually hate those people who say things like "stop complaining, lots of people have it much worse than you and they don't complain" but with this cunt i think it's appropriate. her life is nothing but laziness and if you ask her why she doesn't do anything productive she'll say "muh depression". i do believe she has mental health issues but i still don't have sympathy because she lives in a country where health care is free yet hasn't tried to get help all these years.
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Yes. I agree that it makes the height and voice more understandable. >>862310
>Maybe people misgender him thinking it's a dufe trying to be a woman, so mtf? He dresses so ambiguously, no one knows wtf goes inside your head
From the video, it seems he has (or had?) an alleged troll who thought he was a “badly transitioned m2f”. His words, not mine, lol.
Like you said, he dresses so ambiguously and there are days he looks more masculine than others. He looked really femme in earlier videos but now looks a little more male.
>>862310>>"Eat a pie". Not a slice of pie. A pie.
Are you in US anon? Eating a pie in the UK is normal. There are single serving ones like chicken&mushroom or steak&ale, it's a normal meal item. Staple of Scottish cuisine, hence why she felt the need to bring it up.
Saged for piefag
Mai Magi is really shameless. She is likely plundering local goodwill stores to resell cheap items for profit. It's in no way altruistic, it's blatant money grubbing at the expense of the poor. Goodwill items are envisaged for people who can't afford new clothing, not for a sucker like her to finance her poseur witch lifestyle. I'm barfing.>>859352>bitch thinks what she makes is too speshul n unique, so she declares war to anyone making Smth remotely similar
This. Mai has been targeting Catinawitchhat, accusing her of skinwalking without evidence and sending nasty worded messages to her. She and her unhinged friend Mareridt also orchestrated a smear campaign against Catinawitchhat in real life, literally calling her a bitch in front of third parties. Manic Moth jumped the bandwagon to accuse Felvae of copying her, she also pretended to be Catinawitchhat's friend when she actually supported Mai in slandering her.
The story comes from a very legit source close to the drama. I might be outing myself but IMHO people deserve to know about the true nature of the toxic
I have to go to work so I couldn't watch the video but I'm not surprised she went too light on her. I think that's going to be the case if people make videos on her about this for fear of being dog-piled on by her ass-kissers who will flood them. We've already seen what happens when someone is really aggressive when Ruadhan did this so I think some people are just being cautious.>>861929
All this. At the very least this lady isn't unhinged and that will make people take her more seriously. I don't know anon, if you were to do this, how would you have gone about it?>>861935> yeah i suppose everything you said is true, it's nice to have a sane person criticize IBF even if they're more polite than I would have been. Ruadhan is not all there and probably made people have even more sympathy for her and just made himself look like a nutjob sjw with the racism accusation.
Especially when Dorian (OfherbsAndAltars) butt in. >>861936
To be fair anon, which Male Goth YouTubers could he even go for? There aren't very many of them unless you mean him maybe going after Jake (who isn't even a Goth anyway). I mean the only male Youtubers in Goth I know are Sweeney Deville, Accumortis, and Kai Decadence unless I'm missing someone?>>862127
Seconding this. She’s not exactly doing anything to the clothes to justify charging that much. I guess her belts weren’t selling out fast enough, and Psychara apparently is a collaborator on a clothing line…gotta compete somehow right?
I also think she’s being disingenuous. A scarf at Zara costs less than what she’s charging, so if she wants to compete with them, she needs to adjust her pricing. All of her outfits looked frumpy and dumpy - does she not own an iron or steamer to press her clothes? Are irons not ~sustainable~ now? Plus everything was a shapeless blob. Who wants to look like a baglady?
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saged for blogposting
>major brands pay Indian textile workers 11p to 35p per hour>one in five home-based garment workers are aged 17 and under according to UC Berkeley study>the youngest person they interviewed was 10, researchers witnessed dozens of younger children>it's fucking child labor>one in 10 people in North Indian trapped in forced labour aka modern slavery>two thirds of child workers are out of school>no trade unions or even a written contract
All reasons why you should only buy from certified brands and workshops. No cert means someone doesn't know or doesn't fucking care, which is borderline criminal.
full text source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/feb/01/major-western-brands-pay-indian-garment-workers-11p-an-hour
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I know the "after" pic is pixelated but she's really catfishing people now
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I really prefer kaya's k-pop look to her goth look
she really played herself with this one kek
kek heavily shopped, you're not fooling anyone fatty! The after photo looks like the old pics of her as a "living doll"
this bitch has no real interests of her own she just copies what's on trend, pathetic
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I really don't wanna sound like a wk, but apparently thrifting in Danemark isn't cheap. l don't think she'll gain much from selling stuff. I may be wrong though.
I do think these prices are exaggerated, just like for her ''oh so speshul designs''.
I realized even more that she's money hungry, when l saw HER anklets/chokers that even a toddler can make. She's bold enough to sell them for 16 bucks. This ain't surprising at all, but unfortunately we all know she'll sell them like hot cakes.
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He looks like Marilyn Manson and Courtney Love’s retarded chavgoth baby. That’s not a compliment, and you’re not a fuckdoll, Jakey. Gross.
Everyone has brought up such good points about Mai, I wish I could respond to each one.
I find her really annoying, and all of the Green Peace Goths with their fake woke personas and manufactured consciousness. It’s all a bunch of drivel. They are truly a bunch of privileged rag wearing elitists, sipping tea and tying their hair into dreads. But I’m sure they see themselves as outside of the ‘establishment’, despite being pretty shallow themselves.
I apologize for being a bitch but they all leave a bad taste in my mouth.
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Any milk if it sold .
I've seen Kaya mention one or two of Jake's videos in the past, but it certainly wasn't a "shout out" or any kind of promo. Jake absolutely wouldn't promo her as he wants more subs and likely wants to branch away, leave her and not be known as simply being her boyf.>>862654
This is disgusting. His looks always make me feel sick.>>862684
Am i the only one seeing the contour as a side burn..? Also she gave up on Moon Moon so why include her in the drawing?
There's this too. Trying to sound nice and wise like a monk, when we all know she wages vendettas for the pettiest matters, & charges outrageous fees for plain shit.
It's sad to see dummies throwing their coins to this kind of people, when you can totally make smth cool yourself. >>862695
Exactly, top kek. I see many flaws in this drawing too, especially the unaligned eyes. >>862654
This is what we call an ''influencer'' nowadays. Him seeing himself as a sex symbol is the thing that annoys me the most. Pls stop, this is embarassing.
The after pic is a japanese filter she used in the video.>>862654
I cant believe I'm saying this, but he was so much hotter as a basic chav..>>862602
I wouldnt have known this was a kpop look, it just looks like normal makeup to me.
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Comments on this art "auction" to buy IBF's friendship now all deleted and disabled. Any1 get anymore screens before the delete?
what is this from?>>862654
the irony of him commenting on other ppl's makeup in this video when his looks are questionable and he always edits the pix he puts on ig.
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Yeah as much as I have loved Mia in the past, I am starting to really believe this.
I genuinely enjoyed Mai's message and aesthetic, but could never warm up to her. She always stuck me as pretty, but very vapid, and I never wanted to hang out with her (not that that is likely to happen, but when someone's personality is genuine and fun, you think 'yeah it'd be cool to have a pint with this person').
I'm glad it's not just me being bitter, and that others find this high-priced, elitist lifestyle, something not to be praised!
I work at being eco-conscious, but it isn't always possible, and each of us can only do our best, if we wish to. Influencers like her make it difficult for people who can't do much, but still want to live more sustainably, because they can't achieve the level of perfection these girls try to portray.
I think the thicker, more "normal shaped" brows balances her face out a bit.
She could do that with the black/dark brown if she really wanted. Growing her shaved sides out would help make her face look less large also.
Has there been any more word on their supposed move to Barcelona? Or did that fall into the ether like everything else the toxic
twosome say they'll do?
Angela should delete the video. That or make an announcement that it’s not going to happen. I still see comments asking about when it’s opening. I didn’t think she was the type to quit on a project.
I thought the eBay bidding was a stupid choice too if Angela did want to keep it cheap , but there wasn’t that much backlash when the video came out, unless she filtered a lot of it.
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Ugh, the fucking ego on this absolute twat.
I sincerely hope no one's watching his videos thinking that's what "goth" is, what a low blow for the community it would be if he were to represent "us" at a convention.
Oh fuck off. He's such an insufferable, arrogant fat shit. He's a metalhead at most, actual goths would laugh at him.
Didn't an old friend post on the older threads saying he was this arrogant years ago? Believing he'd be the top male on Vampirefreaks and shit. the delusion is real…
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I was wondering too because I think she can't afford a house in Copenhagen, even with her dead grandpa's money, her boyfriend's wage and that big ass bank loan they took. This is what I found on Google. It's in Jyllinge. The house fits what I saw on Youtube and Instagram. What do the rest of you think?
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This aged out emo is cray. He didn't even seem to enjoy spending time with these 'goth' fans
Wasnt that last year? Only about 5 people turned up to their 'meetup' this time around
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yep it's Mai Magi's house. Creations by Magi is registered at the same address.>>863131
It's the second result in Google if you search for her full name, which she has published voluntarily many years ago.
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first result in Google for Mai Agerlin Christensen
accurate, except for that one chick with the blue hair that he's been frothing over.
he doesn't even care about the fans, just that they're into him and he thinks he deserves to be flown out to vidcon for what exactly. he has the same ego about his band yet they barely get any gigs and i'm willing to bet it's b/c of him.
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>I'm fluent in English
>can't write a very short English text without mistakes
>sounds like a high schooler writing his first CV
>be stupid enough to put this shit on LinkedIn
I hope Mai's future employers find out about her cyberbullying other upcoming influencers and her fake woke green attitude. She tries to act nice and mature, but she is indeed very vengeful and jealous of others because she thinks she is an extra special snowflake.
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Mai hasn't been studying in university for two years, she's currently on leave and only working a small part time job at Ramboll. Explains the quick cash grab, she is broke.
It's a joke that she calls herself CEO of a sustainable brand. What is she even doing the last two years?
- frumpy braided belts from old craft books
- stealing thrifted clothes from the poor to enrich herself
- cheap jewelry that look worse than Aliexpress china crap for $1
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Psychara has also deleted pretty much every video on her channel that featured Mai/Annika. Now it looks like Nina is her closest friend.
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Some other caps. I’m on mobile so I apologize for the wonky sizes.
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I remember those posts anon. :-)
I still have questions though lol. I got a feeling something is up.(emojis)
I think these tweets really sum up jake as a person. he doesn't particularly love what he does. he doesn't really care for his fans.
he just wants to be worshiped and adored and given everything for free.
Narcissists truly believe they deserve everything just for being them.
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In jake's head the crowd of goths that go to vidcon to see him are all skinny, goth versions of Kelly Eden.
this is the reality
do you think it majorly bothers him that none of his following are attractive and he will be stuck with Kaya forever
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kaya uploaded the unpixelated version of her picture.
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a still from the actual video
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In the edited pic, the rosy cheeks, lip tint and eyeshadow are kinda good. But Kaya has a problem with brows for any style kek.
I agree though, the screencap looks like a normal soft look.
From the time she posted the Sk trip pics and vlogs, I immediately thought she's into kpop, just like the whole kawaii and Japan thing.
It's sad that she clings so hard to her goff youtuber persona.
With her ever declining audience, she should really stop giving a damn and drop the act. And leave jakey boy in the process.
Let his paranoid ass dream of goth babes worshipping him.
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Oh my god stop…. LOL No they fucking didn't. Goth and LGBT are like total different things.>>862981
That's true. She obviously saw it probably wasn't a great idea and decided not to go through with it. I don't blame her. At the very least she has done giveaways which is something you can't say for TT and IBF.>>863083
Believe me OP, I seriously doubt actual Goths watch this twat or his boring ass girlfriend. All the Goths I've met don't watch them (though some do watch IBF). But yeah fuck Jake, he's not Goth and he can fool clueless normies but he can't fool actual Goths and the people at Vidcon who come to see them will be like what >>863153
mentioned here lol.>>863097
For fucking real. He's a fucking joke and no actual Goth likes or thinks highly of him. At the most he only attracts aforementioned "Expectation vs reality" or edgelord teen girls who think they are Goff and Deep for wearing Black and being a bitch. >>863105
Oh yes this is the pinnaacle of Goffdom right here lol.>>863348
With some of the posts she's made about being tired, I feel like she sometimes sleeps in her makeup forgetting to take it off.>>863375
Someone pass me a barf bag lol The amount of hilarity and vileness is too much…>>863449
I used to be into Amanda Palmer though not so much anymore (nothing negative, just kinda don't listen to her music much anymore) but yeah you're right, the fact she still is not interviewing or giving attention to actual Goth bands s still disappointing as this doesn't help the scene at all. >>863502
I swear if she calls this woman's music goth…. lol
how pathetic it is for your tween followers to bother a con online to feature you when you haven't really done anything. granted idk what vidcon is really about, but what would this twat talk about, how awesome he is at everything and anyone else's opinion is wrong?
the video he made about turning popular youtubers ~goth~ just reinforced the stereotype that it's about looks and nothing else. he also seems to have a crush on sniper wolf and was very complimentary of both the girls. when was the last time he said anything like that about kaya, lol.
Jakes ego is showing big time HAHA
“FLOODED WITH GOTH KIDS
TO SEE ME”
A doughy idiot who puts on clown makeup and has a shitty band. Sure.
idk much about this amanda woman aside from the fact she had one of the most sucessful kickstarters of all time and had a ted talk about it. but when it came to paying the people who worked with her she payed them with "exposure" and used the kickstarted money to pay personal expenses
i dont remember this video well but it seemed scammy to me
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The amount of cringe and delusion on Jake's discord is hilariously sad
I don't think we should be exposing people who are not cows like this. She doesn't know how to dress, look cool etc and is exactly the kinda person we know is a fan of Fake Munro but she's no one of interest, also looks really young. Idk man, seems wronger than what we usually do here…>>863458
Wtf. "Legend"??? Goth? Jake should be doing therapy and on meds, he is absurdly dellusional.
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Tinfoil but it was probably arranged by Amanda's UK assistant, Alex. I know him IRL and his personality boils down to basic boring gay guy with bright hair who likes music. He's dull, not very nice and a complete whore for any kind of attention relating to celebrities (he basically stalked Palmer for years until she rewarded him with a job as a glorified merch seller). Definitely strikes me as the type of moron who would gravitate towards IBF.
This image kind of sums up just how attention seeky he and Amanda are, taken about a month ago at a pub in London on a weeknight.
Saged for slight offtopic.
I wanna give y'all high fives. I used to like Amanda Palmer but she always reeked of narcissism. When she scammed the musicians it was the last nail in the coffin. These days I refuse to support this blood sucking leech, no matter how much talent she has.
>Yeah Amanda's fans are rabid
these people are brainded
Amanda needs a thread of her own. Who's gonna make it?
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Maimagi is going to burn it fast because she is really stupid. In one of her YT video she claims buying a house when you aren't flush with cash is a good idea, because once it's paid you can live in there indefinitely. Bitch has never seen the maintenance expenses of an old house. Times change, suddenly you need to meet new statutory provisions. Or the roof needs repair, it's damn expensive. She is going to fall flat on her face.
Some followers are noticing, here's a woke one interrogating Manicmoth on their joint greenwashing scam.
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You notice how pissed Manicmoth is by the question and how she doesn't want to answer it. She tells a straight-up lie in the first sentence. Polymer clay is made with basis of PVC resin and a liquid plasticizer. It's common plastic material and not sustainable.
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The woke cookie keeps pressing her, then Manicmoth says the item is in Maimagi's shop, it's her fault and tries to dodge responsibility. She made it, how can Mai answer this question for her?
The customer is lovely: she stays polite but keeps poking.
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exactly, all his ~snaccs~ keep saying he's iconic and a legend, but of and for what. he's twenty something, has a band that barely plays gigs and dresses up to post content online. he hasn't really spoken out against anything besides ppl who look at or make comments about his appearance, nor has he raised awareness or funds for anything but himself. he slacks on patreon rewards and comes up with new ideas to push aside the old ones he's too lazy to put effort into. metal covers, audio books, ~goth~ looks of various characters and whatever else he ditched b/c half assing merch made him money faster.
if he ever did get to a vidcon i hope someone would call him out and knock him down a few pegs.
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Anon, I recommend starting with this post >>804531
and following the gravy trail. It’s a really long, complicated mess as to why they broke up but it’s a good one. I’m sorry I couldn’t do a really good, concise tldr version, but it seems there was tension brewing for some time, and it looks like something Psychara did or said recently went against Queen B Manic Moth’s ideals, so she and Mai have two timed her and have been systematically cutting off anyone who supports her (comme Felvae). A couple of insiders into the group have been infrequently spilling milk into the situation, but refuse to divulge the complete truth.
since you peeps keep asking…
it's exactly the childish petty bullshit everyone suggested. It was almost always about taking fucking pictures. maimagi and manicmoth took offence because psychara allegedly didn't want to take their photos at one time. Instead of calling it out they were stewing, minor stuff became trigger
for fights. mai claimed psychara's photos were only better because of her new camera, she went and bought the same model. In return psychara mocked her, the MMs flip out on her. A lot of crying ensues, people blocking each other, yada yada yada.
I have a headache retelling this crap. Initially I didn't believe the story until it was confirmed by another person in the know. maimagi and psychara both claim the respective other has terribly wronged her, manicmoth clearly sided with mai.
~happy gossip xmas everyone~
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The fuck is this post?
This isn’t for gossip without screen caps.
If no one is going to post caps or actual milk on these loser, piss off already. Sick of seeing gossip>>864086
Has anyone called jake out in comments before? Or does he just delete everything that questions him
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Thank you, anon. Can't unsee.
I never knew all this about Amanda Palmer, it's quite sad to hear. So now I have to ask… What about Emilie Autumn? Is similar to Amanda Palmer? >>864086
Just gross… >>864091
Not that I'm aware of. I don't follow him either though so who knows though knowing how big of a egomaniac he is, he most likely deletes the comments that aren't kissing his ass.
If that’s a child, holy shit!
That’s also a hellova long way back up the thread just to comment on that. >>864164
I think it was the more fact he was trying to be nice to fit somewhere to feed his ego. Now that it’s being fed, we have this asshole. And why stop being a narcissistic pos
Off topic? This is much more like alt cow drama than Kaya'd video with different eyebrows. Keep it coming!>>864007
Funny because any of them seems like goths to me. Just darky fairy foresty types>>864152
Yeah but I just CAN'T for the life of me understand why! He is not even handsome at all! If you want a gorgeous fake goth in bad makeup go for Caligo Bastet, for fucks sake! At least it makes an ounce of sense to me>>864157
Emilie Autumn is a fucking GEM in terms of milk. She is absolutely batshit insane, did and does the most fucked up shit you can imagine. That's why Amanda Palmer seems tame in comparison. She's narcissistic and scammy but Emilie's milk is wild. Go for it, you won't regret it. She is a true snowflake if I've ever seen an alt one. She'd be the queen of altcows if we didn't have Raven, but since the milk is not flowing as much as in the past, it seems we never mention her. She lies so fucking much is shocking. She has claimed to be a direct descendant from Alice Liddel (alice in wonderland's inspiration), insisting that was her real last name but it isn't and she's not a descendant. She lies about her age, she glamourizes mental illness, she's a mess. Her fans are pathetically obssessed with her and assign themselves a number as fake interns in a fake mental hospital… just go search it already >>864223
Up on the thread or not, it's still a shitty thing to do. I bet 70% of teenagers idolize stupid people while looking stupid and then regret it. Why humiliate this girl? She's one in a million, let her have her cringey teenage years without hassle and hopefully she'll get over it
Exactly. Autumn also claimed her parents died in a fire when they didn't, and then flipped out when her sister called her on it. She sells cheap aliexpress jewelry for $100 on her website, has accused the writers of "suckerpunch" of copying her, and viciously bullies any fans who dare so much as question her. She's an impressive cow.
Also, I agree. Leave the kid alone. We all like cringy xxx hit as teens. I doubt many of us materialised as fully formed goths with impeccable taste. Besides, shoot the organ grinder, not the monkey. Jake is old enough to know better, a nd is exploiting gullible teenager for the most part.
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If you are going to be such a snowflake, heres a pic of an ADULT that an ADULT posted in the selfies channel of Jake's discord. Enjoy.(off-topic)
One of his fans wearing heavy handed eye makeup and dark lips is hardly milk from the cow.
Also can y'all learn to sage when you don't have milk?
Anyone have milk on IBF apparently going back to NZ soon? Her "looking for work" post makes me wonder if long term? Any friends/acquaintances lurking willing to spill some?
1) shes 22 not a child
2) do you know where you are? Don't act all high and mighty while also taking part in this site.
Not the same anon who objected, but you're right.
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Oh boy am I glad this entitled bitch said this. I always thought she was unnecessarily abrasive and only pretended to be poor, but she's a disgusting person in many more ways. That was enlightening.
I agree, having incel fans isn't milk, we should leave them alone. It's just funny because jake thinks he's a sex god and he'll get his hands on hot goth girls vs the reality of his fan meetings. >>863153
is so on point.
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Apologies if you guys have already seen this, I know it's a few months old, but this is my first time coming across it, and I am speechless! Are they for real!? Have they no self-respect, no shame??
We all have to ask for help at times, and there is nothing wrong with that, but to beg when you are perfectly capable of fending for yourself, it's disgusting.
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I don't know who is worse, those begging, or those giving?
) Yeah I was asking if Emilie Autumn had scammed people or was just found to be a narcissist as well. I heard she had a personality disorder but I never actually looked into it. But I guess >>864233
explained it all lol That is so sad to hear.>>864233>Emilie Autumn is a fucking GEM in terms of milk. She is absolutely batshit insane, did and does the most fucked up shit you can imagine. That's why Amanda Palmer seems tame in comparison. She's narcissistic and scammy but Emilie's milk is wild. Go for it, you won't regret it. She is a true snowflake if I've ever seen an alt one. She'd be the queen of altcows if we didn't have Raven, but since the milk is not flowing as much as in the past, it seems we never mention her. She lies so fucking much is shocking. She has claimed to be a direct descendant from Alice Liddel (alice in wonderland's inspiration), insisting that was her real last name but it isn't and she's not a descendant. She lies about her age, she glamourizes mental illness, she's a mess. Her fans are pathetically obssessed with her and assign themselves a number as fake interns in a fake mental hospital… just go search it already
Holy shit anon, I had no idea LOL Yeah I'll look more into this, thanks for the tip off. I used to really like her music and I still kinda do (still like her First album "Enchant") but I can't say I'm surprised, something about her made me think she is a narcissist. Shame.
She used to ask for those in her amazon wishlist. Just checked it and surprisingly enough, she changed it all and added relatively cheap things.
I mean, there was a fancy bed and gramophone in the previous one. I'm glad no one offered her those, and she had to buy them herself.
Well Anon, she is studying, isn't see…? It is not uncommon for parents to help support a person while she's studying. At least she tried to find a way to get some extra income, instead of just seating on her parents money. And I meant down to earth personality wise, more humble.>>863989
Thank you anon, i´ll follow the rabbit hole.>>864030
Anon, what a fucking mess. These people really fight over the most petty things. Get this is what you get, when you're shallow as fuck. Thanks for sharing, completly understandable that you don't have screencaps, given the situation.
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"these are from a local pagan store in Kansas City called @oraclekc. They receive their furs ethically and no animal is killed for the purpose of fur. I'm sure they would be happy to answer any questions you have."
This bitch never seemed particularly bright to me. I used to really like her content for aesthetic reasons, but always thought she sounded dumb af. Who does she think she's fooling with that ethically sourced shit? Fuck off. Stopped paying attention to her when her channel started to be about her terrible music, but this bitch actually believes it is ok to kill animals to look all pagan and viking. Dumb cunt
It's just a fucking simple dress with fishnets>>864509
Or you can find an artist that specializes in making life-like faux fur animal capes??
Cause, you know, no animals harmed, supporting independent artists, etc?
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People promoting real fur as "ethical" are absolute shitheads. Someone remember this manicmoth outfit? It seems to be real fox fur.
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She's actually draped a Pound Shop Halloween table cloth over her shoulders
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>>864549>instagram vs reality
love it when I run across these. where's her neck lmao
I xan see people making the case for vintage or antique fur. But anything new means an animal was killed specifically for its fur. It's not a byproduct, or something like taxidermy that can be done using roadkill or things found dead in the wild. In order to get an undamaged pelt, an animal has to be murdered for it. The only "etjical" fur is fake fur.
The frustrating thing is, the_goblin_queen has blathered on about how foxes are her "spirit guide." Unless they look better dead than alive of course, then fuck 'em.
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Charity shops. Back in the 80s that's how we found our clothes. Add some bits from haberdashery. Barnardos do every item for either one or two quid. This week i saw black velvet dresses and tops. Kids must have zero imagination, it's really pathetic. You can get a new outfit for a tenner tops and it looks more individual than mass produced brands.
Can't stand to watch her, but seems she's late on the OMG i cant be a goth it's too expensive bandwagon?
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This picture allegedly very old, early 20s. Ouch if you look like this in your prime. Bad angle doesn't explain it, I think her posture is bad in general and the face is unremarkable without make up.
Mai's random picture is also rather horrible.
In my opinion all their instagram pictures are enhanced with asian apps like snow or meitu, on top of wearing a shit ton of make up.
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There are face filters for live videos, and many powerful tools for face editing especially if you have time to revise them. Recently a female chinese vlogger was exposed to be a granny during live stream because her filter malfunctioned. https://www.boredpanda.com/chinese-streamer-your-highness-qiaobilu-exposed/(off-topic)
Ah okay. Well I mean she may not be milky but wouldn't that be a good thing? That she actually matured and I assume became a better person? >>864509
Jeez where does she get her laptops at? She always has problems with her laptop so it just makes you wonder if she doesn't know how to shop decent Laptops that are still affordable.>>864519
I try not to judge but yeah… I just don't think it's great to kill an animal for an outfit when faux fur can look just fine. Let the animals keep their fur, they need it more than we do.>>864555
Okay I'm just gonna ask. Does anyone here think that TT's holey tights look good on her? Obviously taste is subjective and she should wear what she likes but I just can't help but think in my own mind that the holey tights just ruin a lot of her already bland to tacky looks. >>864574
Eugh, Angela Benedict does these examples much better justice… But yeah it really isn't hard to dress dark (not gonna call it Goth) and not break the bank, Goths and other alternative people have been doing it for years and can still look good.>>864566
I didn't know that about her but yep… Makes you wonder if she really likes Foxes or just likes them around her neck… >>864579
Can we actually be sure about that? Even in expensive clothing she still manages to look like an OTT mess with no uniformity. I feel like maybe for her this is the best she can do.>>864636
Oh my god… DAMN. I see what you mean. Filters have come a long way haven't they? lol
You can see the line between her makeup and her double chin.
Her outfit looks like it could be less than £10.
Very pretty but without makeup, nad light, bad angle, bad expression…>>864701
I'm one of the OPs you referenced. I'm not vegan. So I find it funny you assume we are.
I just think it's better to support artists that use fauxfur, or directly support a taxidermist who can certify any animal remains they work on were not 'fur farmed' animals.
About her laptop, I think she just doesn't care for her stuff - I mean look how she treats brand stuff sent to her even though she seems desperate for brand deals. And that includes her laptop. Probably doesn't clean it, etc. But her entitled and lazy ass thinks its find. The toxic
two have also broken 2 TVs, one of their own and another TV a fan sent them (you read that right). Makes you wonder.
Kayas recent video was the most painfully lacklustre yet. If I ever needed any further proof she hasn't got a single ounce of imagination or creativity, this is the agonising proof.
It’s pretty evident that if killstar didn’t send her boxes upon boxes of clothes (some of which don’t fit her and others she could straight up donate to fans who have given her so much over the years or even sell to buy her own fucking laptops/tv) she wouldn’t be able to look the way she does. She just isn’t authentic or helpful to babybats either.
Just like most anons here, hunting through charity shops for midi skirts, dresses, boots, even band t shirts (again, kaya wouldn’t have a clue because she’s a mall goth or has had everything handed to her included stealing people’s style or look. I still laugh at her attempts at a cutesy look after meeting Kelly Eden) evidently she doesn’t leave her house to go to any charity shops or attempt to be thrifty in a way that isn’t embarrassing (a ripped up table cloth from pound land? Ripped bits of lace? A shapeless black dress? Really?)
Her viewing figures are plummeting each year and if she keeps churning out the same drivel I imagine her YouTube channel will die altogether.
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>>864701>>864714>Unless there is actual proof of them facetuning>they are like average pretty
My sides. They are below average and pretending to be hot shit all while being smug. Mai has a square face with tiny beady eyes which she enlarges. Manicmoth has no lips and no neckline if she doesn't overdraw them and use a certain angle to shoot. It's very obvious for someone knowledgeable in image manipulation but people really love to drink the koolaid. Jake is literally the male version of these mongs and we make fun of him every day, but you want to whiteknight them because they are uwu girls.
Have a candid pic, I'm going to mock every cow equally because they are all fucking cows.
I think everyone is beautiful, and everyone is ugly, to someone.
I have no issue with their appearance, the problem is their hypocrisy. They promote 'loving yourself' yet post only perfect pictures, and deny their use of image manipulation software.
As you rightly state, there also seems to be a smugness, a superiority complex, that turns me off.
The perfect image they portray, and the smugness of 'I'm pretty, so therefore important' can be very damaging to easy influenced people.
An ugly personality will always be revealed:
“If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”
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Hope this image works.
So if Mai bought the buckle from here, and is selling her belt for $79 which in GBP is £64, then that means that Mai is charging £46 for the woven fabric and labour.
I have a degree in making clothing so I think I'll just do it myself thanks very much!!!
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Anon, are you literally retarded? Or you just can't conceive that others have opinions that differ from yours? I think they're pretty, PERIOD. It´s my personal vision. I´m not whiteknighting them, I agree that they are massive cows, and shitty persons. Jake is in a whole different league, the league of clowns. But if your personal vendetta is so important, take the trycicle, by all means.>>864664
Anon, gtfo out, i´m not even vegan. Don't confuse food with vanity and fashion. I just think killing animals not for survival, but for the sake of wearing them, is dumb af.
$79 for some woven yarn…plus shipping?
Well, she never said her clothes were technically affordable, just ‘sustainable’ (in her eyes).
This pic shows a waaaay above average girl. Im honestly curious about how you look. Are you the most gorgeous woman to ever grace the earth or a bitter actually average girl? Hm…>>864813
This is straight up depression
I feel like they’re reaching for some sort of ecological ideal which just doesn’t exist. There will always be some sort of cost for producing an item, no matter what you do.
But a part of me also believes they’re really trying to go down the uwu snowflake spesharu route. I think they just want to be different and weird, they don’t want to work and pay bills, they just want to live in their little cliques with people who look like them and agree with everything they say and not have to work at contributing to society. Because once you strip away the goff aesthetics and fakecraft, there’s really not much substance there. If they were really committed to the environment, you would hope they’d work in ecology or something, instead of drinking dragon blood mead at festivals and painting dots on their faces.
Sorry for potential autism.
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You said it all anon. Spesharu though. Top kek.
Remember the screencaps of Manic moth's blogpost, how she thought she was too unique and no one undrstood her? It was posted in a previous thread.
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This seems like a return to form for IBF with just the right mix of self awareness, sad history and suggestions of personal growth. Fans will really like it.
I do wonder how much self esteem damage Mama put into play with those cracks about her looks.
I believe the flirting without akey stuff too. She's living in a rough town in a nation of gingers, sans scary face she probably looks like everyone else.
People have been saying her mother is 1 root causing IBFs emotional issues for like 8 threads now.
I wonder if she's finally starting to admit it to herself though. Putting something like that in a video you KNOW the mom will watch would be pretty intense for some people.
Ibf also said that now she tries to go for softer looks, by using powder and drawing orange brows.
She's really trying to be relevant again, by recycling an old makeup trend.
I wouldn't call ginger in terms of hair color "orange". There are plenty of red toned browns out there that match ginger hair.
As someone that also has issues accepting their body, I can somewhat empathize with IBF on that front. However, she's still opting to -at least regularly - go out and about in full costume. And then complain when people in a town not alt-friendly say mean things. You have to be more realistic about your surroundings, honestly…smh
Fuck. And they wonder why people don't send them stuff lol.>>864775
Exactly. It would be one thing if she actually was making worthwhile content that was at least decent but she doesn't, it's boring drivel that doesn't even bring her in money unless it gets a certain amount of views. I think at this point she is only getting money from her Patreon or Fan donations on Twitch and that won't last forever. >>864813
That's her most days. >>864827
It's a grim image to look at to be honest and IBF is headed there as well and she's older so she'll be getting there before TT does.>>864953
You know considering how she wears this dramatic makeup almost every day, I can only hope she is actually taking care of her skin…>>865067
Probably because he didn't finish it lol.>>865106
Have to agree, Sebastian wasn't the first to do it, it was just a trend going on in the makeup community for years now.>>865155
Whether she does or doesn't, it's no excuse for the lifestyle she is living now. Okay fine she doesn't want to go home to her mum because she's a narcissistic loon, backpacking off of donations with no stable income is not a good alternative and instead of husband hopping, she could at least go back to Mr. Doormat for awhile. >>865213
Is her mom paying for the wedding?
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Yes, Kaya is the first one to have this idea.
Personally l don't think she's faking the interest in music, it's just that she goes overboard with every style she tries. The goff one takes the cake.
She's just a massive attention seeker who relies on OTT looks to appear interesting, that's all she can do anyway.
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Hmmm I thought you were struggling financially and owed people money?
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Obviously she was lying. Let's be real here, unless you grew up with parents or a family member who listened to Goth music and let their child hear it, no one is a Goth when they're a kid. Can a kid be darkly-inclined? Absolutely. But Goth? No not really unless aforementioned background. IBF and others like her who say that obnoxious crap are just trying to be edgy or deeper than they actually are.>>865907
It's a mystery anon…. kek>>865908
But think about it anon, when was the last time IBF ever talked about a Goth band?>>865915
Oh my fucking god. I really hope her fans are keeping note of this. If she can afford to rent a car, she's not hurting for money so they better not fall for another scam (though let's be honest, they will). I hope Diva.Destruction calls her out if she does.>>866020
Does anyone know if any of her fans ever said this to her in a comment or a stream?
Jake is so unoriginal he actually thinks he invented spooky Christmas.>>865614
jesus Christ her poor face. is there not more serious actions she can take to fix her acne?
it seems to be getting worse to me
I just want to know when she’s going to go back to NZ, if she doesn’t try to overstay her welcome again.
And of course her gullible fans will continue to feed, clothe, and practically wash her ass whenever she croons on social media, not realizing she’s laughing all the way to the bank with their pity dollars that could be better spent on themselves.
I don’t get life sometimes.
Yes Jake, you invented spooky christmas. You should sue Tim Burton.
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no wonder Kaya's skin looks worse! she's literally just applying so many products on her face randomly. can she seriously not do any research? can she not get help from a doctor or a dermatologist.
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At first l thought she was talking about lolcow.
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This is from 2010 at the earliest. Find a proper goth rock band on the list.
She was 24 at the time.
how do you take a break from doing nothing lol. so she let the attic go to shit and wants more asspats for getting in order again, yawn. no wonder jakey boy hasn't done pix there in a while.>>866047
is this going to be his next video, just stop already.
:/ There are loads of skin care blogs available online if she's too depressed to see a dermatologist in person. A good blog will have research on ingredients, actives and how to use actives, how to determine your skin needs, and - importantly - what order to use your products.
It's not a sub for a proper derm but it will help get you on the right path without damaging your face even more if you're capable of retaining basic information backed by studies.
But what do you bet she'd try to convince her patrons to fund a super expensive skin care rabbit hole obsession if she discovered skin care blogs/routines…
Out of curiosity, I assume you've seen her since they came into your workplace, how does she look in person? Like, is her skin even worse in person than pics show? You say she's obese, is she like…legit land whale?
Honestly I'm asking out of sad curiosity. She does look overweight in her vids/pics but not the worst I've been around. In pics/vids at least it looks like if she lost 30 lbs she'd be in decent shape again
Sorry Kaya but you are fat. I'm surprised she's come this far with accepting her body (wasn't she quite the ana-chan?) but she's still in denial, it's just done a 180 instead kek>>866423
More milk please! Always fascinating reading about these two in the wild
Not that anon but sadly no. She WAS a member of PULL and did used to fat shame people, stating she could eat what she wanted and never gain, etc. An old friend also posted in previous threads saying Jake and Kaya would fat shame the women on America's next top model (I think that was the show) and act disgusted at anyone even slightly larger than them. Jake would also encourage kaya to lose weight. Yes this is only from an old friend and there isn't legitimate proof of this nor the screenshots from PULL, but judging by both their attitudes, especially Jake, it's easy to believe and seems entirely plausible. a lot
of people have said kaya was a member on PULL talking shit on fatties (now she is one, kek karma) so that too seems believable
I think there’s been two factions related to the witchy goth club drama coming here lurking and posting. There’s either really negative posts all about Psychara calling her a bitch and accusing her of sponging off Mai, or there’s these weird overly detailed candid posts breaking down Annika or Mai’s personal life and drama only someone close to them would know.
I also suspect one of the cows has been posting here, Psychara mostly, as she seems to have the best written English out of three girls and she’s obviously pretty bitter about what happened.
Lolz! 2 years later IBF would make videos for babybats telling them to listen to Christian Death, hilarious!!!
I just knew she's a giant poseur. These girls with OTP 24/7 looks (never leave the house without heavy make up and a corset) always are. I know some people are late to the scene but this is just taking the piss.
Found this forum trying to work out what happened between them, as I was so used to seeing them together.
It all seems very childish, and the 'not discussing for personal reasons' is bullshit. I mean in reality all you have to say is we fell out, and move on, ignore the questions.
They are simply stroking their own egos by pretending to be the bigger person, and 'not discussing it publicly'.
So she was 'banned' for calling them out on these issues?
I know nothing of spooky box club except what I see TT share, it does seem a little over-priced, especially some of the more recent boxes.
Oh no I agree, I think their stuff is tacky, pound shop Halloween level quality for the most part and insanely overpriced!! The only things I've ever liked from them have been their pillow cases, but again overpriced and I imagine you can get similar ones from independent sellers on etsy. They've also stopped the gourmet lollipops and just include cheap sweets like fizzy sherbet and parma violets>>866472
thanks anon, I was just about to post the video
Thanks for the video, I can't say she's may fav to watch, but I'm interested in this.
I don't buy any subscription boxes, but like to watch some of them, the ones that promote indie brands which I might not come across otherwise.
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Not from PULL sadly, but there are some from her tumblr (got these from an older thread)
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And then more recently when she became fat:
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Just watched the video, and although I am not sticking up for spooky box club, this girl is deluded.
You don't like the items in it… you're buying a mystery box, you're not going to like everything in every box, if you only want to receive things you like, buy things you like instead off paying a stranger to guess for you.
If she had made valid
points about the quality of items I'd be on board, but unfortunately she didn't.
I watched a couple of her other unboxings, and it was all the same, unenthusiastic, I don't really like this theme, maybe the next one will be for me.
Will not be revisiting her.
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LOL. Everyone knows you and Jake have no sex life. There is zero chemistry or romance in your videos, you are housemates at this point.
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all those posts that Kaya made about fat people is exactly why I don't feel sorry for her for being overweight!
she admitted herself that when she and Jake got their dole money every week they'd spend it all on sweets and hide out in their house and gorge for days straight.>>866522
this post in particular is hilarious
she does everything she says she's against. she's a hypocrite and always has been,
now her face is exploding with spots and her views are declining and soon she'll have nothing.
I think she still sees herself as "a thin girl who just happens to be going through a fat phase" rather than someone who needs to make significant lifestyle changes to get her weight down.
Or don't do that. Decide that you are happy with your body, and that you choose your current lifestyle over losing weight. That's an option too. But stop complaining about it. And own up to your fatshaming past before appealing to others to not comment on your body.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. >>866545
They’re so used to each other’s bs. No one else is going to put up with that, and they both know it.
Yup, literally an ad for a horror themed Netflix.
Not much to say about the video itself, a pretty standard description of the service with a fair share of cringe. Though these days most of the cringe is just his makeup… it's so unpleasant to look at, especially in motion.
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wow that screengrab looks fucking stupid
and then you click into the actually video and he looks worse.
the big hype was over him getting a promo code for a stupid website that shows b-rated horror movies?
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So about those short legs(emojis)
I'm with you on the childish remarks such as not liking the watermelon lollipop.
But l do think she made some good points. I mean, the hair chalk looked cheap even before she tried it, and the plastic blue mermaid is really smth for kids.
I also checked kaya's latest SBC unboxings, and they contained a lot of cheap shit. Even the comments on the videos point that out, and how the boxes are significantly lighter than before.
right, and he made a point of saying he wanted to wait to put the video out, he could've just as easily announced it on ig/twitter or even that fan created discord.
worst part was scrolling down to the comments, seeing someone say they lowkey wanted him to choke them and having to quell the urge to vomit.>>866721
probably to compensate for being short but it just looks wrong. him wearing long/baggy clothing just emphasizes it too.
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Talk about how not to dress for your body type. Stumpy ass corgi.
What ever happened to Tonks
Kayas little pet? Did she die?
I scrolled way back on Insta and it seems she has been bigger than what she'd like for a long time.
I do agree that even a short course of medication can alter your bodies metabolism, however she needs to accept this. She needs to realise that her body has changed, and if she wants to maintain a slimmer figure, she will have to work harder at it than she did previously.
Some of the posts linked here are really ugly though, I think it's quite evident she has some kind of body dismorphia, even before she put weight on.
New to Jake, has he always looked a bit cringey???
I can't say that his new look is any worse than this to me.
I knew he was short but his proportions are awkward. He has such a small frame.>>866722
This is one of the reasons why I never jumped on the subscription box bandwagon. They deliberately make one or two really good boxes, to reel customers in and hype you up, and then once they sucker you in they start mailing you crap in the hopes you’ll continue to subscribe waiting for the next great box.
I live in Ireland also and its likely a "wolf spider" or something. I haven't seen what she has been posting, but I see them often during spider breeding season (typically September-October time), male spiders wander indoors for a mate.
Alot of wolf spiders or brown recluses find their way inside homes, (and they frickin terrify me) and it's not a direct result of her stanky living conditions, though they probably don't help.
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He needs to watch this video
Agreed. If she actually just admitted to who she used to be and has matured, no one would have an issue with her (for the weight stuff, there's other stuff to criticize that isn't her weight). >>866512
Ah so this is the post. I'm not gonna lie though, I am of the same opinion whenever I saw morbidly obese girls calling themselves "curvy". The only difference is that I never said just because someone is morbidly obese doesn't make them a bad person or anything like that. >>866515
Okay I'm gonna be honest, she did speak some truth in this post until she got to the bottom with the whole "I don't hate fat men, just fat women thing. Why do fat men get a pass but Fat women can't? If you're gonna be saying that about Fat women, it should include fat men as well. >>866516>>866518
Practice what you preach dear. If she was allowed to talk about other Fat girl's weight, how come she is off limits? Just shut up Kaya, you don't get a pass just because you're now obese yourself. Suck it up.>>866577>she admitted herself that when she and Jake got their dole money every week they'd spend it all on sweets and hide out in their house and gorge for days straight.
You know it's interesting that she became what she criticized. So yeah no, no one should feel sorry for her weight gain because it was self-inflicted by spending their dole money on junk food and living lazy sedentary lifestyles. Weight gain was inevitable and now that she's approaching morbid obesity levels, she doesn't want to hear it from others when she was doing just that to other people? Fuck off with that noise.>>866672
Oh wow his legs are short… Is he not sagging his pants? How tall is he?>>866690
Why feel sorry for her? She was very critical of people in the past. Even if she did speak some truth in it, she did layer in other unnecessary things and now she's anxious to get comments on her because of her growing size? No dice.
>>866949>Oh wow his legs are short… Is he not sagging his pants? How tall is he?
I could be wrong but I think Kaya said they are the same height, so about 5'10 or 5'11… he's not even that
short but his stumpy ass midget legs make him look like a legit dwarf kek
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Its crazy how slim TT used to be. She's totally unrecognisable, she must have gained over 100 pounds. How can she make it out like it just suddenly happened and a temporary thing…
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Geeez, I´m so sick of this sad e-begging. Sleep on the fucking car if is raining, and stop nagging and playing the victim
Damn, some younger goth youtubers can really learn from this. What a great way to show off a local scene and the people/businesses that make it happen. I also like how he adds commentary afterwards rather than awkwardly talking at a camera while walking around and not really showing anything.
I've always been disappointed with how superficial goth youtubers can make goth feel, so this is very refreshing.
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Never liked Voltaire either. He is so smarmy, touchy feely, and will sleep with pretty much anyone as long as they are of a vaguely female humanoid shape. I think it was an IBF video that I saw him in first and he was literally breathing down her neck and pushing up all over her breasts like a weirdo. But like >>867209
said, he’s got a lot charisma and isn’t fugly, so he can get away with it by smiling and being charming. He’s a stereotypical rocker with a goth façade working his way through his groupies.
She’s on the Isle of Skye and not the middle of Chicago…
Been lurking here for a while but as more and more misconceptions come up about Scotland, I couldn’t hold it anymore. While Paisley is indeed a rough area, actually a place with the highest crime rate in Scotland, the Highlands and Islands are extremely safe. I’m an alternative looking female myself, and I go camping on my own regularly, hitching from one place to another and hopping on ferries. I also live on an island on the west coast, and believe me this part of Scotland is extremely safe.
I hate the picture she paints about this beautiful and extremely friendly country, despite claiming it’s her ‘dream home’.
Why would anybody be concerned with her trip? She's not a little kid or disabled. Don't buy into this retarded propaganda that woman can't spend a time alone in countryside without being murdered or raped. Going alone on a mountain trekking trip is stupid, but a car trip and camping in a safe, popular touristic area is not an dangerous activity.
Europe is not dangerous, there's no muslims gangs everywhere raping women left and right like in neonazi propaganda and the most dangerous places are less dagerous than safest areas of USA. Also, theres practically no dangerous animals here.
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Blessed place tbh
His house is just a retail graveyard. Its not anything worth aspiring to. His apartment is the lovechild of Joannes and Michaels lol.
His shitty pseudo celebrity on CNN was just a plug for his book. Its all cheesey af.
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Or Mai bought the buckle from Amazon, it's only $10. It's very likely the Etsy shop is also importing them cheaply but claims they made it themselves. In general Etsy has an epidemic problem with fakecrafters for years but they refuse to tackle the issue.
Thanks for the research Anon. Even if she was buying the items sustainably, there's no way she would be able to sell them at the prices she is, without the following she has.
I wish she would practice what she preaches. That sustainable living should be affordable for everyone…
Wow someone is thanking me. Last time I posted stuff I found via Google I was picked on by at least two anons who were strangely triggered
as if I was criticizing them and not the cows.
I also think she should do what she preaches. I'm curious if she bought CO2 compensation for the recent Ireland trip like a decent LOHAS would do, but I doubt it.
IBF used to live out of her van (on her own) for months on end back in NZ while working in orchards/around the countryside. Just keep that in mind next time she's crying that she has to go camping alone
This is another passive-aggressive ploy to get more money out of her fans/sponsors.
I'm a bit iffy with Voltaire but I'll give it a watch for sure since it actually looks like something for some real Goth content.>>867176
I'm shocked she's going through these extremes but then not at the same time. Look at all those fucking photos, if she really had the balls, she wouldn't be posting frequently at this time and just went to sleep and slept it out. It's obvious she's fishing for money, a place to stay, pity or all of the above. She's the one who's making these terrible choices, she's doing this to herself and she expects people to feel sorry for her? >>867202
Well that's cool. At least you don't have to be worried about being bothered by the police, she should be taking advantage of that.>>867302
Lmao that made me laugh harder than it should've.>>867371
I wonder if it worked because knowing how some of her fans are, they would send her some money.
Also Scottish. I don't understand why she's so keen to stay here when she doesn't seem to think much of the place given her constant moaning about it. She doesn't paint Scotland in a very good light, which really pisses me off.
Also, a recent BBC news article stated that approximately 1 out of 10 properties on Skye are listed on Airbnb or other short term holiday letting sites. Skye is a prime tourist spot so had she been truly concerned for her safety, which she wasn't, she would likely have found a place, or as others have said, slept in the hire car.
Out of interest, do any of the other Scottish goth anons know if she's been going out to clubs such as Bedlam in Glasgow or Ascension in Edinburgh since being back in the country?
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The hashtags lmao
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I think this is the likely issue with IBF's finances. She's been having such a BAD time of it lately with all the drama of moving etc and losing her money etc and not being able to afford anything etc… so to cheer herself up she hires a car to drive off into the country for a spontaneous holiday.
You end up with bugger all when you do that all the time, for sure.
I'm wondering where the car hire money came from. Did the Lost Wedding Cash turn up?
Honestly you could ask why she travels anywhere as she somehow manages to make every city or country she visits look like some intolerant hellhole.
She’s not the only goth who gets picked on and harassed for their appearance, but she is pretty much the only one in the YT gang to make a big deal out of the negative attention she receives. Every vlog she has to make sure at least she gets in one or two shots of someone screaming at her, kids running in terror, or her crying about being kicked out of somewhere.
Plus, I believe some immigration officers now look into your social media accounts when you’re applying to become a citizen depending on the country, and anyone who reads her recent tirades about Scotland would not be impressed. If I had never been to the UK, you would think it’s some backwater country with people living in the Stone Age going by her tweets and shit. Why live somewhere if you’re not happy?
Poor service is always a bummer, but whatever; the 'I…I felt I needed to say something' is utterly pathetic. Like she's so damaged by this experience she's whimpering.
Maybe you wouldn't have been so 'hangry' if you planned your trip properly, made some pack up, googled somewhere to eat, read some reviews, or any number of other things which make journeys such as this run smoothly.
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>>867609>my sixteen year old daughter is a bitch on her period
Adora is so hardcore cringy! She's oversharing and inappropriate! She reeks of desperation each time she tries to paint herself as a good mother, Jesus.>>867610
Like her old pictures only worse. >>867624
It is. Everyone in the witchy goth circle is obsessed with these stupid accents or rune fonts, it's not "speshul" anymore, just annoyingly 3edge5you.
therealclown of the toxic
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Yep that's why he and toxic
don't interact with real Goths and if you look at their fanbase, you won't be seeing much of any actual real Goths who watch them. The video you're referring to is I believe a livestream they did where he came out and said he thought Goth music sounded like shit and Goths are elitists cuntbags. >>867787
It's just gonna sit her hoard and gather dust.
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This is the thing about Adora, she actually doesn't share enough. In these small ways yes, but she never mentioned anything about her divorce, about why her eldest daughter Jenny was raised by Adoras parents instead, or about why Adora herself was raised by her grand parents. She says she has never received negativity for the way she looks and acts, that is completely unbelievable.
She has so much milk but keeps it to herself.
They're all scams imho, they all did the same thing: start with something really good to sucker people in, then start filling the boxes with cheap shit occasionally doing something worthwhile to keep people subscribed.
If people enjoy it, then that's fine, but I doubt anyone would buy these things outside of a gift box and definitely not for the individual prices listed on their site.
Do you mean the "sister" who is suspected to be her daughter, or is there another one?
I agree, she seems to overshare yet keeps all this private. Which is probably for the best.
I briefly subscribed but stopped after a few as they weren't worth the price they were then. Most of the stuff went straight in the bin. Even the 'gourmet lollipop' was the exact same flavour just a different colour each month.
Each to their own though, just not something I wanted to spend any more money on.
>>868065>Adora's "sister" who is suspected to be her daughter
WHAT THE FUCK?! What's the story?!>>868043
I would love to get recommendations for a box to subscribe if there's anything good. I was under the impression they are all scammy.
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Guys, meet Jude Bishop. She started on alt cows but for some reason got her own thread (>>>/snow/822456 is the most recent, its description also links the first one), she's too stale for it now but still qualifies for altcows.
Jude's social media debut was a Barcroft TV doc with her roomie [Rosie] and then got IG and YT for the first time ever, and lolcow debut in the Altcow thread.
-vegan, straight edge, holier than thou
-"soo uncaring", also 24/7 triggered
-is a cunt to seem hardcore n cool
-faux bi, and hates porn but posts lewds
-will "save the world" - never acts on it, just says it to sound fake deep
-claims to be "goth" but says its not about the music (it is) [and loves nothing but sound cloud rap]
-wants to be an influencer with no effort or even a YT schedule
-followers must conform to her opinions or fuck off
Recent milk is her moving out from living with Rosie, starting cos Rosie did weed. Also she has a calf/skinwalker/friend called my sad boi account.
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Thanks for the link.
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Always active with her hoarding tendencies.
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I think it's been alluded to that she has Asperger's Syndrome. She named her band "Asperger Synthdrome" and someone asked if she has Asperger's and she answered very vaguely, neither confirming or denying.
You might have to do some digging for the source on this, it's just something I remember.
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