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Summary from PULL: Problematic
“goth girl”, always posting drama then deleting later. Dated Tyler (Online personality Zalvid) super weird dramatic breakup along with more deleting. Dated Connor (Probablyconnorward) for about 2 weeks right after Tyler and broke up with him, more drama.. super rude to anyone who disagrees with her or just outright blocks everyone. Changes her hair once a week, smokes cigarettes and is super rude to anyone who says anything about it. Also posts controversial statements about killing herself and depression only to delete it all again.
She dates people and colors her hair a lot guys!!!
I am interested in the skinwalking tho, where's the milk on that? I know who Layla is but idk who Ashley is
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layla’s rose tattoo
literally nothing is happening on her instagram, what is milky here? some generic captions and song lyrics ("I am doll parts", really?)? creepyyeha corset harness and choker necklace? suburban z-tier art school bathroom selfies?
so fucking basic and recycled from every other instagoth teen.
i was surprised to see the 100k+ followers, but then again, there are LOTS of teens on instagram. only a teen would be fooled by the paper-thin, regurgitated facade of a personality. But she doesn't belong here.>>567473>>567483>>567471
samefag or selfpost tbh. omg she dyes her hair, smokes, and listens to a popular band!
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sooooo edgy…..this girl tries so hard, it’s cringey af
yeah she's a cringy tryhard teen, but no1curr. she's a suburban art school student named fucking "ashley".
nobody cares about her basic ass
No one cares about this basic irrelevant Ohio teenager. She is boring, and a copy of many other edgy instateens.
oh! i guess it has been going on for awhilehttps://motherless.com/C8FE7A2
(gets undress finger herself)https://motherless.com/8C026BC
(in the shower)
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she really thinks her followers are stupid as fuck.
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meant to sage - I hope it's okay to start posting in here - shes had drama the past few weeks. consistently shaving and changing her hair like she was manic. then started posting herself using poppers and that shes moving back to New York (where all she did was party) despite making multiple stories about how she was abusing drugs and wasnt using them anymore months ago. she got mad when people called her out on instagram about the poppers telling them to get a life (or along similar lines). then she posted this today saying shes going to rehab
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Is it a surprise when the psycho writes garbage like this? She makes a public account and posts her daily life and is then shocked when people actually care about her. I mean some of these idiots even draw pictures of her and dress like her…real hysteria and psychosis. I never knew there was a hate page…bitch deserves a little bit for her drama and lies.
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Yo, she waz going on a temper tantrum about her porn businezz. Lol, like what…her posing nude? You a ho bitch! Now you look stank nasty!
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Yo, this skank looks like a dude in drag. You sure this isn't a guy?
Jesus…butch hair? Anti-guy? What is next, dyed hair and hairy armpits lmao?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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looks like someone’s noticed at least..let’s see how quick she takes it down so that her followers can continue praising the zomg MCR queeenn111!!
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Saged for non milk but she’s getting a lot of comments at the moment (she deletes them pretty fast) criticising her for the very public drug use
Also Idk how residential rehab + her multiple hospitalisations works in the us but I’m assuming her mother/family paid for it, must suck to waste money like that
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here you go.
there's not much really just her roommates and ugly bf. she said she wouldn't be using it anymore because ppl started calling her out on her drug use.
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She got a stick and poke done on her forehead/hairline
Saged for samefag but iirc he was incredibly abusive
to her mentally possibly physically too (strange bruises + she alluded to it) , she posted some screenshots awhile back of him texting her and telling her she was worthless and how she should kill herself I think she also said something about when she moved back to Ohio she had to get friends to go with her to get her stuff from wherever she was staying in NY bc he was threatening her
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also… her leg. really kind of sad to see where she is considering she was in recovery with her mom in jan
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She did say that she'd known him for years, pic related
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in response to someone asking about her face tat. the story keeps changing lmao
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Her art, she's also not posted any art for a good few years
whats up with all these egirls getting face and neck tattoos when they barely have any other ones, are they retarded?
who is doing their tattoos willingly?
ot but this cupofjasmien girl on ig got a neck tattoo in quarantine, wtf is going on
lmao yes! she live streamed herself getting the face tat and one of her orbiters said they hoped she was taking care and she replied "well yeah I am but you know how it is when you're bipolar, like I have bipolar and substance abuse issues so!"
the livestream was so weird as well, this girl doing her tattoo kept singing along to the music interrupting her - even ashley looked uncomfortable. lost my mind tho when the girl said "yeah I'm shaking really bad because I dont usually sing in front of people" while she was still halfway through doing her tat!
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Her relapse is a joke to her. Unbelievable
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Dolltears is such a sheep, especially when it comes to Ashley. Literally just wants to suck as much fake confidence and ye ol’ goth points as she can from her at this point. They made this video of themselves pretending to know the words to this Christian Death song (which in itself isn’t milk) but they start the video after the first part of the song and in the very first verse it literally says “Burning crosses on a n*ggers lawn”
As if she’s not problematic
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oof shes kinda getting to Luna levels huh
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she’s got her coochie out on her finsta, looking drugged out as hell
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What drugs y'all think she's on now a days? Her roommates don't seem to support her sobriety at all
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"No, I'm just copying her everything"
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apparently she’s sober now, i give it a week
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and breaking news, alcohol is no longer a drug because it’s legal! i find it hilarious she claims to be an alcoholic when she has no idea what that even means
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I don't find it shocking she's owning up to the alcohol but I'm sure there's more. She's been posting the alcohol for quite some time now. Her and dolltears were annoyingly drunk on a live and got off shortly after someone called her out for lying about her sobriety to her fans
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Imagine putting these on your body forever.
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This was from earlier the same day
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The lack of self awareness hurts
i'm sure creepypeepeepoopoo's reputation will be wounded by this
anyway white girls and any girls can put up pictures of themselves without>Y-YOUR SILENCE IS DEAFENING
the left needs to shut the fuck up
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It's been over a year since they broke up for whatever reason and her page is still covered in him
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Also I found this gem. Whether these were prescribed or not, it seems like she's promoting drugs here to me
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not worth making a new thread but since these two are pals; did anyone see dollltears' story today?
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>wanders off tipsy to drink more with strange men>goes home with them, goes downstairs with them>says "don't rape me" but not "I think there's been a miscommunication" or anything else>was groped while drunk in a stranger's basement & ended up only losing her phone and wallet
idk this cow but she can't be this brand new. She could have been brutally raped and murdered, but that was hardly anything. No strange man just
wants to give you free booze.
Love how her and vivadrag both use their mental illness as an excuse not to work and be a productive members of society, as if the majority of workers aren’t also mentally ill. I wish I had a BPD diagnosis so I could use it as an excuse to sit around on my ass at my parents house doing drugs and being a toxic
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Does anybody know why she keeps doing such weird faces and poses?
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agree, she looked great here
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also does anyone in her house own a mattress cover kek
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glow down of the century:(
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Because killing your brain cells is so quirky and cute lmao
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So meth and heroin are normal for kids too huh? They know what a mattress cover is. I'm not the one posting the compare pics of Maddie but don't take it so serious it's a forum. They make valid
points about how her appearance has changed pretty drastically
She wasn't just fighting with her mom about not having a job, she was begging her mom to buy her food.
Her mom tells her no, that she'll purge it anyway, which could seem harsh (at least her insta comments seem to think so)
but it's SO clear she had been begging her mom to buy her food way before the videos started. You can even hear her sadly say she wants food AGAIN even after that.
Maddie has been relapsing with her bulimia, even posted a photo of her purge knuckles and keeps talking about losing weight so its clear what her intent is with this video.
She wants to be disordered so bad. It's not exposing a toxic household that's reinforcing her ED like her and her 12 yr old fans think, its exposing her childish ass behavior and proving that her mom is fed up with it too. How is she 18 years old?? She acts so painfully childish. She really has no job? She has an onlyfans but any money shes getting she seems to just spend on alcohol, drugs, walmart clothes and binge food instead of contributing to her supposedly IMPOVERISHED HOUSEHOLD??
And I'm kind of nitpicking with this last part, but she just really irritates me acting all PC when she recently posted a photo of Bin Laden on her spam, calling him Serj Tankian who is Armenian. It was an old ass bottom text meme so it seemed ironic, just very ignorant. When i told her the meme is offensive she deleted it, and then posted blm posts to her main accounts story. That just didn't sit right with me. I have screencaps but idk if anyone gives a shit. But yeah I truly cant imagine where she will be in 5 years, she seems to revert back to her 16 year old self instead of growing or learning?
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I miss the old maddie
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i think its a bit wrong that everyones calling her ugly because of weight gain. she's anorexic, for gods sake. i think its great thats she's gaining weight. whats different is the green chunky hair, the perm, the far apart brows, the overdrawn lipstick, all that. to say she looks better as a stick is kinda awful. yes, i do think she looks better two years ago, but her body just looks so fragile.
if you find the thin legs hot, whatever. but i just cant get behind it. the whole goth aesthetic of a skinny scrawny girl is pretty unhealthy, especially for young girls who look up to maddie. i know that, two years ago, i was battling a pretty serious ED and used maddie as inspiration. im better now and ive changed now, but thats not a place anyone should want to be in. and im just glad she's gained weight.
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Obvious weight gain in the pic. For the better.
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^ Sorry, posted without the pic.
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Is this a reach or are these track marks on Maddies arm?
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a photo of track marks. compare it to maddies. similar?
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Why was she in hospital?
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Maddie was posting pics with track marks about 12 weeks back. A couple of people mentioned it in the comments but no-one disputed or denied anything.
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And comments from these shots. I feel bad for her. Having all this stuff on the net at 18 is horrible - it’s like she’s told herself she’ll never amount to anything so it doesn’t matter, but this stuff is going to have a lasting impact on her future.(derailing)
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sorry for samefagging. forgot to attach pic(lolcow.farm/info)
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One last thing about maddie. She's definitely reading these threads and taking notes. She's started to straighten her hair, and she's posted pictures on her spam that are very similar to her old pictures…
just thought i'd say this(offtopic)
Ot but I gotta drop some junkie knowledge here. I'm clean but have spent many yrs as an actual IV heroin/meth addict. No, none of these pics look like real trackmarks. The discoloration/visible veins are not necessarily a sign of drug abuse, could be from hospital IVs or nutritional deficiencies or just being pale. I have discoloration on my veins from iv use and it is very different from what's being posted, in no pics are there any actual needle marks (fresh or healed) on any veins and no abscesses/missed shots/dark spots under the skin. In the pic these comments came from, I looked for a good min trying to find wtf people were calling trackmarks - if you mean that spot on the side of her arm, no trackmark makes a huge ass super dark wound like that, think abt it it's a tiny needle prick going into your skin, not a massive circle like that. And most of the "evidence" I've seen is in weird spots like the extreme side of her arm/elbow and wrist area, there is a good vein on the inside wrist and some people have a good one on the outside elbow but the spot doesn't match where she had that weird mark and these are hardmode veins, very hard to hit, no idea why she would and doubt she could while all the easy obvious veins look untouched in her pics. If anything looks like she is trying to give off that impression when it's not, which brings me to my next point.
If she were an actual addict who truly knows what it's like to be a real heroin or meth addict, who ACTUALLY is destitute and has nothing like she claims, she would not think this shit is cool or aesthetic. I cover my arms up everyday even in 90 degree weather and so does every addict, clean or not, that I know. It's mad disrespectful to glorify heroin use or IV drug use when you're a kid living in your parents house with no expenses who I GUARANTEE does it very rarely, if ever, and has never experienced serious addiction or been at rock bottom. No one who has lived this life acts like that, it's not fucking cool at all. Long rant I'm sure yall don't care abt but for those speculating or sympathizing- don't. She knows what she's doing, those pics look like self harm or straight up makeup purposely meant to look like what a non addict thinks IV use looks like and her try hard posing in unnatural ways that put her arms in the forefront of the shot outstretched with a clenched fist to make her veins pop. It's so obvious and cringy. She could easily clear this up anytime if she wanted (and believe me a real addict would, bc it's fucking EMBARRASSING to have everyone you know think you're a junkie loser) but she wants the attention/fake addict clout. Pathetic. Hope she reads this and realizes what glorifying drugs for aEsThEtic looks like to a suffering addict.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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she put a ridiculously long story up earlier of her being shitfaced in the middle of the day, ended it on saying she doesn't give a shit if people bully or mock her, then said she has no talents or skills so 'who cares anyways'
It’s not vivadrag fault; it’s Maddie fault. No one made her take these drugs, she could say ‚no’.
I know two of them are problematic
as hell but tbh i tolerate vivadrug more. At least she isn’t so whining, she seems more confident (might be fake confident but who cares). Her life is a mess but at lest she enjoys it. And Maddie…well its’s just sad to watch; she’s like energetic vampire, sucks joy out of everything with her ‚i wanna die and i hate myself 24/7’ attitude
Well first of all I didn’t say it was Ashley’s fault that Maddie has a drug problem, I said that Ashley has been enabling it. No, it isn’t Ashley’s fault, but her presence in Maddie’s life isn’t making it any better.
Also, just because Ashley doesn’t post about her misery doesn’t mean she isn’t just as sad as Maddie. It just means that Ashley is better at keeping her life private. Ashley has her own problems that are completely valid
and it seems like she struggles with addiction A LOT considering the rehab and constant relapses. BUT. That doesn’t give her a free pass to enable other people’s drug problems! And she is. Even by posting about how she “just gave a girl mdma through her ass LOL” or “just slept for 20 hours on ketamine XDDDD” she is sending the message that ~drugs are no big deal, they’re wild and fun~. And her impressionable followers, including Maddie, will see that and internalize it. No, it isn’t Ashley’s FAULT that anyone has a drug problem, but she is still responsible for the messages she puts out and for enabling the people around her.
Anyways, I’m not interested in who anyone “likes better”. I had to unfollow both of them because they’re equally unbearable and awful. But despite the fact that they BOTH suck, I can still recognize that Ashley has a responsibility as Maddie’s older, more popular role model. And she’s failing.
She shows up in Maddie’s life once in a blue moon, parties and does drugs with her, spam posts for a few days about how much she loves Maddie and then disappears from her life again for months. And then Maddie is left posting videos from their weekend together lamenting about how it was the best time she’s ever had in her life. And then she’s miserable until the next time Ashley decides she’s worth her time. Ashley bombs Maddie with all of this attention(and drugs) and then leaves her on read for months, making Maddie anticipate her next visit even more. During which Maddie will abuse substances to chase that high.
And it’s not Ashley’s fault that Maddie idolizes her, but how she handles that is her responsibility. It’s not fair that Maddie has put this kind of pressure on her, and Maddie needs to stop putting her on this pedestal for sure. It’s not healthy for either of them. But I still stand by the fact that in their friendship, Ashley is hurting Maddie more than Maddie is hurting Ashley. They are both victims
with problems, they are both bad for each other, but Ashley holds the power here.
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Wtf with these faces
lol at this maddie wk
she has health issues because she is a junkie and anachan who doesn’t want to get better even tho she had multiple rehab opportunities to do so
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Ashley got new rodents to abandon in 6-9 months /: if you're reading this Ashley rehoming animals is horrible to do them and you ought to do it sooner than later for their own well being.
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She's drinking again, that not talking about drugs stuff was so short lived lol
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bf of 5 months
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he used to be chad, not sure what happened. Here’s an old pic from an account she tagged him on a while back. Shame.
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he’s so gross. i hope they actually do get married just for the milk , but ashley’s so boring lately i don’t even know if it would be worth it
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is this what you want for the rest of your life ashley?
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and now they're engaged
i mean as long as they're happy….?
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Ah yes, proposing after 5 months. This was surely a well thought-out decision, and I’m sure their relationship will last for YEARS to come!>>1030546>>1030548
He literally looks like the fat neckbeard meme.
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The live she posted today was genuinely funny to me ngl
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"I thrive, I'm living my best life" girl lmao. Also people that have been together for years have a way stronger foundation than you and your puppy love so get out of here with that comparison. Cute that you'd think that is real when you're always in a rush in your realtionships but I guess it's clear to everyone but you because "when you know you know". I give it two years TOPS.
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This post and her previous post are only 19 hours apart, I honestly can’t imagine what their families or household is going through right now. Hopefully someone takes Ashley out of there ASAP before something similar happens to her
Man. Apologies for adding to the moralfag dogpile since I don’t even follow this cow, but I imagine this is going to destroy her. How does someone kill themselves four days after proposing? Suicidal people don’t make plans like that, unless some mania was afoot. Maybe it was an unintentional OD and she’s saying he “killed” himself, which is still technically true I guess.
Regardless. That’s awful. Hope she isn’t left alone right now.
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He just posted this last week. Shortly before a bloody picture of them cutting each other up in bed.
She really needs to get out of this scene if she wants to get better. It's probably not the first or last time someone she knows is going to die young. This druggy shit is funny until it's not.
A leftover crack fan? Dead of an overdose golly gee no waaay it's not like they glamorize dope howwww could this happen.
But really, I sympathize with her that's horrendous and I pray she gets tf away from there and these people.
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Im not talking about the people having opinions on their 5 month engagement. Im talking about these people.
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This is all happening so fast
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I really hope she’s getting all the support and help she can right now, that there’s people, friends or family at her side. this is heartbreaking and has happened so fast
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Not trying to be dramatic but I'm worried about her. There's nothing we can really do, but it's something I wouldn't wish on anyone and I can't even imagine her mental state rn. Finding your partner like that and then losing them in the same day, I'm not being condescending here; Ashley please see a therapist for this trauma. This is so horrible and I'm so sorry that this happened. Everyone hold your loved ones, call them, say you love them and value them.
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This is really tragic. ODs are super preventable and just sad ways to go. So young, too. One of her friends or family members need to extract her from that house and watch her closely ASAP. She looks shattered in her last few stories.
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I know with social distancing obviously people are cautious but how are her friends and family just letting her be alone? Or at least is seems like she’s alone
Agreed. He seemed like a gross creep. I have no respect for men who physically abuse their partners during sex. As much as it sucks to lose someone you care about, he was clearly toxic
and she'll be better off without him in the long term. It's a long shot, but maybe this will be a wake-up call for her an she'll make a serious attempt at getting clean.
so if he choked her to death, it's fine because it was consensual? you bdsmfags really do have pea brains.
It's not like he deserved to die, but writing eulogies here, on a gossip site that was dunking on him being ugly and gross, is pathetic. Okay, a person died. You don't have to post how sad and tragic this is. She won't magically get help right now because an anon on lolcow told her to. You can't do anything here, if you have the power of doing anything irl do it privately but chill with the crying here maybe?
How the fuck did he overdose in the other room without her fucking noticing at all? She sounds like she clung onto him for the whole of their relationship, but she'd just leave him nodded out for hours and not even check his pulse? Sounds more like dumb junkies being dumb to me.>>1033203>the sex was consentual
Lmfao so was his overdose. Nobody forced him to put drugs in his system and kill himself accidentally. If Ashley deserves to be choked out, this guy deserved to die.
Kinda irrelevant but in this pic >>1030502
he legit looks like all the psychos who use the 50 shades defense for murder.
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off topic but nice quints
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This is the only place I've seen people say this. So either some simp is sending her screenshots or she's stalking the thread. Either way how pathetic to worry about people talking crap when thousands are kissing your ass right now lol.
Its funny how they pretend to know these people,truly gross toxic
bitches(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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ashley’s followers be like “are you okay” as she posts her sewerside note
I have no investment in this conversation, I just noticed you said>No, I’m not a newfag
And then neglected to tag the post you were referring to…
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Hey autist, I just got here but nice tripple post. You managed to tag an anon who's agreeing with you, and my singular, innocuous post twice. Top kek.
the users here are women, and every time you post in this thread without saging your post it just bumps it to the top of the front page, drawing the attention of
more people to read it and post in it. i understand seeing red over people posting insensitive and gross things about someone close to your friend who has died, but this is not helping and will only drag out the situation, which will ultimately hurt your friend. being reactive and impulsive is only going to prompt people to say inflammatory things to bait a reaction from you, which will hurt ashley more to read while this situation is still so fresh.
(i don't really read or post in this thread fwiw)
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At the very least her fiance’s mom is trying to get a hold of her. I’m going to assume that others are as well, hopefully everything is okay. But I’m worried because if she’s at home then it’s pretty likely she has access to whatever drugs they had on hand/that Jacob OD’ed on.
I really hope she hasn’t done anything to herself. Imagine being her mother and losing a SECOND child to suicide. That is absolutely tragic.
We come here to talk shit but that doesn’t mean that we all think that they deserve to suffer or die. It’s okay to show a little empathy in a time like this.
Addiction is a fucking mountain and recovery isn’t linear. Relapses will happen but this time it just went too fucking far. If she makes it through this I hope this is a true fucking wake up call for her. If she doesn’t get help for her substance abuse IMMEDIATELY this time around then I really think that there is no turning back. She needs to really double down on recovery this time or she will die.
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I’m not sure if they ever officially said why they broke up but it seems to me that Simon wanted to get clean but Ashley was still really into partying/making getting sober hard for him. That is PURELY speculation though.
Also for people wondering where her roommates are, I don’t know how many roommates she has but I’ve seen one of them posting about being with their family. I would assume a few of them are with their families/friends for support and such. It would be hard to go back home knowing your friend just died in it. I hope Ashley wasn’t there all alone, but that would explain why it took so long for anyone to contact her.
(If her roommates did leave her alone in that house tho that’s kind of messed up. It seemed like they were all friends who went out and did stuff together, you would think that at least one of them would try to stick around and make sure Ashley’s okay. But at the same time, this is a hectic and sad situation and maybe they did offer help and Ashley refused. I know that if it were my friend in this situation I would stick close to make sure they were okay,but maybe they weren’t all as close as it seemed. Whatever though, I don’t blame anyone for how they’re dealing with this)
Maybe if she didn't want people to say that he was an abuser, she shouldn't have posted about him nearly killing her. Obviously it's tragic that the guy died so young, but he was clearly enabling her substance issues. We can feel bad that the dude is dead and also find him to be a shitty boyfriend.>>1033339>Imagine dying and your gf’s porn with you in it is the last thing you leave of yourself on this earth.
I was thinking about this, too. When looking at the last few pictures of him, his family probably had to see that gross picture of Ashley under his beer gut sucking his sad dick. This whole situation is why it's fucking retarded to overshare about your sex life online. Now everyone mourning him has to see his weird dick and know that he got off on strangling women.
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This makes me so sad. She didn't deserve this.
Yeah and on her twitter she was ranting. I think they got inna big fight about her wanting to sell nudes etc. He was also saying stuff about how dumb e-girls are. He follows her in IG again, so i hope he can help her.
I feel so sad for her! She must be broken right now after surviving, and fucking up her arm and leg. I hope she"ll get the help after this.
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Yes, also here's this
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Maddie posted this to her story maybe 3 days ago, hasn’t mentioned anything since, might be why her and Ashley haven’t been really friends for a while, she hasn’t mentioned anything about her especially since Ashley’s lost her fiancé and tried to kill herself either.
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will all the obvious newfags please read the fucking rules before posting.https://lolcow.farm/rules
please stop posting about your personal lives. use the sage function if you’re not posting milk. discussion posts should be saged.
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am i the only one who finds it really weird to post hours of instagram stories literally hours after finding your fiance dead???
it reeks of attention seeking to me. she was actively posting pics statuses and stories to both facebook and instagram about how sad she is and just about jake in general. makes me really uncomfortable… i get everyone grieves in different ways but why post shit like this when your fiance just DIED.
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found on the close friend story of one of her old friends
did u just say bozos? fucking kek grandmachan
also you sound schizo, not hard. this thread can be so funny
It's this guy >>1033876
He's desperate for attention again.
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>>1036371>y’all are equating me doing what almost every one of maddie’s friends have done to her to me being so awful
Congrats autist, you're so degenerate you completely missed the point.
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I dislike Ashley but im glad her mom hasn't given up on her.
Alot of people with mental health issues actually get suicidal/self destructive when things seem to be going "too well" for them.
Not saying that was what happened but just because he was engaged and had a support system doesn't mean he wouldn't feel suicidal and act on it, men are also more statiscally prone to impulse suicide than women.
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Ok I get you. but where were these supposed physical values that apparently people are saying he shouldn’t kill himself if he had? No one said that. And he had none of those things per this thread. Only one anon said if he had a new fiancé and, so it seems, a decent support system why suicide? Which is a valid
question when you come to talk about that shit in your thread. It would’ve died if she just disappeared instead of coming here and “saying her peace.”
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forgotten after your 1 week in the hospital?
>>1037135>This thread was brought up to me by jake a lot
Subtle attempt to imply this thread was a contributor.
Every post you've made has been so manipulative, totally discounting the anons who've been defending you. Typical that the only responses we're "graced" with are addressing the negative.
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"the new Instagram is actually so I don’t get a bunch of attention….. but ok"
posts it for everyone to see
Majority of anons were wishing you well, worried about you, and defending you against that retard theif. You can't control other people so you're going to have to accept the bad. You can however control your access to this website. You put his death out there, and now people are talking. It's the unfortunate reality of the internet.
This is such a classless thing to say >>1037332
I agree with this anon >>1037335
stop engaging with the thread and people won't deconstruct what you're saying and probably lose interest. I hope you overcome your struggles, and take real accountability for your past actions. Have a nice life.
>>1037330> I take responsibility for oversharing in the past but I literally don’t do anything anymore I stay out of the way.
posts 300 stories on ig hours after your fiance died, posts statuses on fb, changes fb profile picture 3 times.
that behavior is so gross to me. who is on social media divulging the death of a loved one literally hours after discovering them dead???
yeah the majority of posts have been saying it was a tragedy with the exception of some shitty people saying he deserved to die because he was an addict or shit person whatever.
i dont think he deserved to die for any reason. i do however think ashley is a gross person who loves to glamorize her mental illness and edgy lifestyle. she thinks its so hot and different to be the most traumatized person to ever exist and i find it gross that she looks to be blasting her fiances death online in endless posts as another way to seem like she has the worst life ever.
get a grip and take a step away from social media. find a way to stop pitying yourself and expecting everyone to find you to be "so traumatized no one could ever understand". shit's old and just plain sad.
I never post anything implying that I’m “cool” for having mental illness. And once again I never said I’m the most traumatized person
you don't need to explicitly say or even "imply" either of those things to do them. if you really don't see how your "omg i'm so traumatized no one could ever understand my trauma no one has ever gone through the kind of trauma i've been through" type of posts on social media don't show you as someone who thinks you're special because of your trauma then you are wildly out of touch. take a break.
> It’s just that if people are doing and saying these things they obviously have not experienced anything like it.
well when i lost a loved one i would have never post endlessly on social media about it on the same day ig happened. so by your logic that must mean you've never gone through losing a loved one.
Yes, you have glamorized mental illness, drug use and sex work; you're not helping your younger audience, you're showing them that being a mess is edgy and cool. Stop trying to pretend otherwise, we all know it and you're really not stupid enough to be unaware of that.
Other than that, I think the other anons need to shut the fuck up and crawl back into their holes, this is getting out of hand. She doesn't have to be your favourite person, but her boyfriend just died, which is one of the worst things that can happen to a person – cut her some slack!
Ashley, I hope you can manage to get off social media and get clean, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. It will get better, but you have to be concious and work for it.
Read the posts more closely. No one said he "deserved" to die. What they're saying is that they don't have a ton of sympathy for the guy. It's sad when a young person dies unexpectedly, obviously. From our perspective though, the dude gave off bad vibes. Maybe he was a nice guy, but he did
cause you physical injuries, and he did
enable your drug problems. We were basically saying we didn't think he was a good boyfriend, not that we thought he "deserved" to die.
big rant here.
i only just found this thread because a while ago (if this actually is ashley commenting on here) and i commented on your live of your new rats "are you gonna abandon them too?" (probably tbh) and you dm'd me like two days later, a total random irrelevant follower of yours, saying "don't believe what you read on the forums". and hey ho i found this thread and holy moly. I only saw that much of the dm because i couldnt be bothered to read the rest and deleted the dm. the thing is people like me followed you for years, looked up to you and thought "cool goth bitch nice umproblematic". I knew drug stuff was happening a lot the last few years because clearly you were high as shit on stories, and clearly you also had a huge influence on younger people like maddie who is completely fucked up now, lying about "being kicked out" and "Kidnapped" for money for drugs. What im saying ashley is you had a platform where a lot of impressionable young teens looked up to you. the last vid of you and your fiance is you giving awkward head and there's a discussion thread on tumblr of underage girls saying that it made them uncomfortable and you dont care about your platform. we all know you hopped on the onlyfans trend because you failed as a model and wanted ez money. Youre irresponsible, you only care about getting high and lying to look cool. as for your fiance… yes that was tragic but how did you let him do it? did you know he was taking dangerous doses drugs, because you must have if you were together 24/7? that's irresponsible of you, no matter how you look at it. and if he hung himself or other, why weren't you with him? a lotta details not adding up. and before you say, the reason we're so invested is because you put all this info out there. you made a mockery and a shitshow of yourself and you get upset when people dont like you? you really need to grow up, put down the opiods and get a life and a job. be a normal teen/adult because its clear youve been deprived of one. and apologise to those whose lives youve fucked up because the trail is apparently long .
Not gonna touch the rest because it’s all facts. “Where were you” is a val1d question. This head wants to make this shit public, you’re gonna get questioned by your followers. She’s a head. Probably passed out from too many drugs and her >fiancé
either “killed himself” even though he had quite the support system and a new fiancé to look forward to. You make your life public, especially if you’re a dumb ho with a thread, you’re gonna get talked about. She had support from her mom. She didn’t need to post to the internet “because she was alone in that house with no one” you have ~vivadrag mom~ whose been blowing it up on social media talking about YOU to YOUR followers since you needed all that help and support but couldn’t let them know you were okay. Dumb druggie bitch.
No, that’s not my point. It’s a valid
question from dumbass underage followers. It’s going to be asked if your in “the public eye” also where’s the narcan? She hasn’t made it clear wether it was suicide by hanging/something or lose or drugs. So I repeat when you’re in the public eye it’s going to be speculated and questioned
yeah. I was a huge fan of her for years and reading this entire thread just makes so much sense. she's saying yall are reaching but youre not and i think shes frustrated so much personal stuff about her got put on the internet. if youre a 13 year old girl who follows alt people on insta youre heavily impressionable at that age. Advertising her sex tapes, clearly high and posting ket memes is gonna make an underdeveloped brain "hey i want that too that looks fun". some of the comments here are pure hatred and i understand that too. i feel sorry for her but i also think she deffo needs to step up and fix herself. as a former addict myself, and as someone who had addict friends and 90% of the time they try to get clean just for the sake of those around them (example, her first time in rehab in like feb i think), they have no real intention on getting sober unless something traumatic happens and sets them straight. getting back on substances starts small too, like coffee 5x a day, then nicotine, then weed, then pills like xannies, then back to harder stuff. after seeing her and others like maddie in a state on their accounts im grateful i only ever was an alcoholic. (not that anyone here cares but i only got sober because a friend fell from a rooftop being faded asf). as for the anon calling me dumb for apparently saying that she shouldve been jakes keeper- no, but it's weird how they were together all the time and then suddenly he was gone. ive had addict friends go through this too. too faded to tell how much they took, or too f'd up to see how depressed their s/o really were. never asked the right questions. and thats on ashley. she knew he was struggling. did they seek therapy? did they stop doing drugs for more than a few months? the come downs from something as simple as coke are seriously hell for someone without any mental health problems. anyone knows that. not saying she was responsible for his death, but she just didnt do the right things and now she has to live with that. maybe now she'll fix herself.
exactly and it's not even just that she's in the "public eye" but that she herself chose to share on every social media that she found him dead hours after??? if she just didn't blast it for the entire internet to see there would be no milk or speculation of how he died or any of this. it's just funny she has the ultimate victim
mentality it's so pathetic and sad.
also it seems like an accidental OD imo too. you know damn well if there was a suicide note it would have been blasted on her story or she would have alluded to it in some way to make herself look respectful or something like "there was a note but i won't share bc that is just sooooo personal but just know that there was a note" type of shit. she probably didn't find him until after because she was high off her ass and nodded off too. sad story all around but hopefully she gets the help she needs and actually gets off social media. doesn't seem likely to me but who knows.
Has anyone thought that maybe the case really was that she supplied and they both got fucked up but she was too fucked up to care what was going on or just being negligent and let him die with/without realizing it and instantly jumped to posting a million stories about his suicide and “finding him” to claim she was innocent in all of it because she internally felt guilty? Or because she was worried there could be a case of some sort? Also how can she know it was suicide without a note or something? How can she say she woke up and found him dead and he killed himself without any word of a note/symbol? She’s posted so much about it but this is the thing that doesn’t make sense to me. I believe in some capacity there is more that she knows than she’s letting on.
Tinfoil af but ?
yeah exactly there is definitely something more that she is not disclosing. imo something to do with drugs.
also the fact that she was engaged to the "love of [her] life" after 5 months when she has called every bf she's had the love of her life/soulmate is just tacky and shows how immature she is.
and her stories before he died? anyone notice literally every time she is asked a question pertaining to the length of their relationship (i.e. how long have you been dating? engaged after how long? etc) that she would say 5 months but ALWAYS had to follow up to say "but i've known him for 5 years"? she was so obviously insecure and knew how dumb it looked to get engaged after dating someone for less than half a year lmfao. then at the same time she went on to say that "people who wait years to get engaged well 'when you know you know' so if it takes you years to feel ready for engagement then the feeling was never there". like girl how insecure do you need to be to every time need to make sure everyone knows you didn't JUST date 5 months you also met him 5 years ago!!! while at the same time trying to shit on people for actually learning how to be in a healthy adult relationship before committing to marriage lmao.
she is so tacky and it's so annoying how she obviously thinks she's better than everyone in every way. the most traumatized.. the most damaged.. the most addicted.. the most in love.. also the most humble!! she doesn't glamorize drugs or her mental illness guys!!!! she just has been posting showing how cool/edgy she is when she does drugs and how traumatized she is on social media for years to nOrMaLIzE iT!!!!! her comments on here are hilarious too
He seemed pretty upset by the people commenting accusing him of abuse and made a few remarks about it in the live, it was a really stupid thing on her part to have posted about that "BDSM gone wrong" shit, what did she EXPECT people to think? Of course people were freaked. Does TMI even fucking exist anymore to some people?
I feel like this definitely influenced his decision if it was suicide (doubt, still tinfoil it was accidental OD) maybe guilt or shame? I mean you'd feel bad enough about almost killing your partner by accident without them telling the whole world (even though it was retarded to choke her out in the first place)
This man had no qualms having his face exposed to the world in her gross ass edgy porn, you think these junkies havent done worse things to each other accident or not that never even reached the internet? Not a single thing points to him committing suicide out of the blue but everything so far screams OD, Ashleys insistence the moment
she found his body of claiming it to be voluntary screams of druggie paranoia and guilt cause she doesnt wanna seem responsible for using with him resulting in his untimely death. Ash claims abuse as a kink and he equally got off on it, he was just being defensive the same way the cunts claiming rapeplay is “twauma pwocessing” do cause everybody loves to roleplay a badguy but doesnt wanna appear or be treated as one irl/online.
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That guy actually was pretty abusive towards exes. They've admitted he uses trauma bonding against partners. I wouldn't be surprised if that also happened with Ashley. Leaning towards the OD theory too because she's been connected to so many. Still sad, but own your bullshit if you're going to make it public knowledge online.
>>1038319>That guy actually was pretty abusive towards exes. They've admitted he uses trauma bonding against partners.
Where did you get that information from?
As for his death, my theory is that she was nodding out and fell asleep while he shot up or took more fent or whatever they were on, which killed him (unintentionally). I don't think it was a suicide, unless there was a note.
lol @ the idea of him overdosing to "trauma bond" with Ashley and her ass fucking it up. It's just my insane tinfoil, probably not true, but I believe it more than the story she peddled here.
"We were totally sober for months, just got engaged and everything was great, but MENTAL HEALTH IS A BITCH and I'm going to imply anons killed him with mean words" ok. Suicide is confusing and tragic, losing someone to an overdose is just tragic. Assigning blame to random anons in a thread, saying that they're the reason he killed himself seems insane and manipulative. if she'd just said he'd relapsed and taken too much, died as a result of being clean for weeks, I would have believed it more.
I was on the fence about it being a suicide, but her coming to the thread convinced me it wasnt. Guilt-trip anons over "harassing people with mental illnesses" and "how disgusting we are for shittalking about someone who committed suicide" seems petty as fuck.
In the first post where she mentioned it, it definitely sounds like he OD'd >>1033020
- found him with no pulse and not breathing, rather than hanged, or covered in blood from self harm.
Im pretty sure Ashley has had her ass chewed multiple times for playing with guns and having absolutely no trigger
discipline nor care for the people around her.
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Not to double post but I find it RICH that she feels the need to post these crackhead ass selfies right after her man dies, she attempts suicide, and is on her way to rehab. She loves attention. Whatever takes away from her guilt.
I know you could say this for literally any cow, but Ashley seriously needs a social media detox. Any therapist worth their salt would tell her that. She needs to focus on the real world now more than ever.
Some anons have tried to argue that BDSM is 100% normal and safe, and while I disagree with that, I think there's more to this situation than "BDSM bad" or "BDSM" good. I really don't think Ashley is actually into it on a sexual level; it seems more like she's just mentally ill and self destructive. If she was otherwise a normal, well-adjusted person, I don't think the fetish would be cause for concern. But when Ashley already has so many self-destructive habits, it's hard not to view the BDSM as just another manifestation of that. Ashley says she liked Jake because they were "compatible" in that way, i.e. he was happy to enable her. Tell me anons, wouldn't you rather have a partner who has your best interests at heart than one who enables (or even participates in) your unhealthiest behaviors?
This is why no one should feel bad for her. She’s literally taking thot pics in a hotel on her way to some treatment center. She is LOVING this. In her mind, her life is now the MCR song she always dreamed it would be.
It obviously shows how seriously she takes this shit too. I hope there’s some investigating, and if she was the plug or at least provided him the OD dosage… I hope she goes the fuck down. Fucking crackheads.
The ex I know has discussed it with me. From her stance, the entire relationship was formed from trauma bonding and he was generally shitty to her. Enabled drug use she didn't have before or after him. Sorry that convo was already deleted so no screens.>>1038504
Trauma bonding isn't two people bonding because they have similar trauma. It's an abuse technique were the result of cycles of abuse with intermittent reinforcement of reward and punishment creates powerful emotional bonds. Tinfoil, but I wouldn't be surprised if the engagement was one of the rewards in his cycle.
one of her boyfriend’s friends said that he was barred out 2 days before passing, so i think it would be pretty safe to assume his death was caused by an OD, accidental or not.
with all that being said, i do hope she actually takes recovery seriously this time. she knew she wasn’t supposed to get into a relationship before a year of sobriety, because at the first sign of conflict an addict would end up using. and getting with a drug dealer on top of all things wasn’t the smartest decision. she got overly attached to him, possibly even codependent, way too fast. also, talk about consent all you want, but something about people who struggle with self harm using BDSM (specially knifeplay, which he posted pictures of) to ‘get off’ just doesn’t sit right with me. the whole thing wasn’t sustainable and as much as she loved him, i don’t think they were ever good for each other.
plus, as someone who has dated an addict before, drinking doesn’t work for them. they convince themselves it’s not what they had a problem with so it’s fine, but that leads to getting pissed every day and then back to drug use. she needs to be responsible about that too and stop lying to herself and everyone else.
she has lost many people due to addiction (hers or otherwise), and that is not something to wish on anyone, but she needs to learn how to build healthy relationships with others and herself, and that can’t be done while she’s still using and surrounding herself with people who are also using. i do genuinely wish her the best, but there are many changes that need to be done if she truly wants to get better.
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sage but does anyone else thing a big reason why she liked him was because he looked like fat gerard way
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Cow crossover. Do her and Nika know each other?
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pretty sure her "new" insta is @damagednerves
she posted it on her vivadrag story lol
those other ones are some old alternate accounts or something
If she doesn't come back to her vivadrag account eventually I'll be really shocked. She's spent so long soaking in the internet attention, it's hard to believe "lolcow haterz" drove her off the internet for good, at least that's the narrative she's running with right now. The public internet is "too toxic
" for her yet she chooses to read here consistently lmao.
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At least his friends are seemingly making it by?
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Went through her old Twitter and yikes.. also reading this forum all the way I don’t get why she insists he killed himself but won’t give the reason of death, I do feel terrible that she confirmed he visited this page, guy probably felt guilty about her airing out the fact he accidentally harmed her to the point of a hospital visit. Idk, I know she’s probably dealing with a lot of guilt but let this be a lesson that she shouldn’t tell the internet everything(newfag)
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omg this is so funny all 4 screenshots are the same as the exact 4 i took (with the exception of this viva mom one).
she is such a clown>>1036987>Just letting you guys know before I am locked away for a long time to heal>>1036996>you won’t have much more to post about me because I’m done with the whole vivadrag thing entirely.
wow a whopping 20 days before she is back with the "whole vivadrag thing" and back giving her mom an on-brand viva mom shout out. why is this whole "viva" thing so cringey lmao
At this point it seems she’s grown up being more comfortable speaking to strangers than to those close to her, which I, and probably many others can relate to. I don’t think she’s a clown for coming back to continue speaking openly about her life and what’s she’s been going through. Especially in her situation, she may need to talk but not really have anyone there to talk to or to comfort her and knowing she has access to a platform where probably hundreds will interact with her and show support for her in this time, is, I’m sure making her all the more tempted to come back.
Also who cares that she posted about her “viva mom”? I know she said she’s done with vivadrag but maybe this will be her evolving vivadrag into something more healthy and honest for herself. Also if my mother was anything like hers, I’d be screaming from the rooftops about how thankful I am to have a parent that will stand with you through so much.
I know nobody will care and probably call me a WK, but I honestly just see all this is a coping method for her and she’s allowed to have that.
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I knew this would end up on here because I just posted about it. I am putting this all out publicly so I understand now why people speculate and blame. I know why y’all hate me. It’s ok. That’s why I’m trying to step away from everything. I made the new account for people that like me, if ya don’t. You don’t have to follow. If you want to to keep up with me and talk about my life on here, cool too. I really am taking responsibility for my life. I’m doing really good things now that I’m really excited for. I’ll answer some things you can believe me or not! I do drink socially. I don’t plan on ever taking drugs again. What’s different is I was misdiagnosed most of my life and now I’m stabilized on the Meds I always should’ve been on. I got w jake because I’m codependent. Didn’t want to be alone. Tired of hooking up with randos because I was so heartbroken by my breakup w Simon which happened because I was too stuck in complacency that I would change or stop using. AnywAy I stayed with jake because in my mind, no one would ever like me as much as him and even though I was treated badly I didn’t deserve any better. He was also a drug dealer, I was sober until my friend died and then bam. Moved in w him. Relapsed. I loved it because I got everything from him for free. Yay! Lol. Sarcasm. Anyway I was told if I ever snitched he’d kill me. “Shoot you right between ur fucking eyes” and shit. He proposed 4 times I always said no. I always contemplated leaving because I was so miserable but that’s never what I put out online because of course I needed to look like everything was a ok because I didn’t want people to look down on me. Posted so many awful things on Instagram like dear lord. I remember, about 5 days before getting engaged I told my girlfriend, “jakes ordering fentanyl. Do you think he really loves me if he knows I was addicted to it?” She said hell no, come move in with me. Leave him. In my mind I couldn’t handle the idea of there being fentanyl and me not doing it, so I did it for the first time that year since I had been sober. It was supposed to be one time, turned into every day up until he died. Why I thought it was suicide was because that night, he was so sad that 1.he almost killed me by choking me during sex and I got sent to the ER because it was actually an overdose as well. And he said he hated himself for ordering it for us, and 2. He couldn’t forgive himself for forcing himself on me a couple times while he was fucked up.
He broke down to the floor that night before he died telling me over and over I’m going to kill my self he was trying to grab his bottle of KPINS that would kill him if he mixed with fent. I grabbed him and talked him down. He asked me to hide the bottle because he wanted to kill him self. I wake up, house is torn apart, purse emptied. Kpin bottle gone, and empty . There were about 30 it was a brand new script. Fent lines on the table.
Later on I find out from his family his entire life story was a lie, so the person I fell in love with wasn’t him at all. He lied about every detail.
Anyway, not excusing myself anymore. I’ve been a terrible person most of my life but I’m genuinely getting it together my way. By changing what I do. I can’t expect progress if I don’t change. And with being medicated for the first time in my life I actually value myself, pretty cool.
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why is she so embarrassing
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the faggy little fat baby hands
it wild to me how ppl saw this & apparently didn't see any red flags? what
idk how commenting on this shit works fyi don't yell at me
I just hope the next person you’re with isn’t another guy who is into drugs and is attracted to the idea of hurting women. Honestly imo, a man being attracted to their girlfriend when she’s in pain has something wrong with him. A normal person shouldn’t want to hurt the person they love. He clearly didn’t care for your mental (e.g. bringing you drugs, threatening your life) or physical (choking you to the point where you go to the ER) wellbeing. It’s satisfying seeing your sobriety bring you some lucidity.>>1074460>Just od again.
Way too harsh, come on.
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Saged for irrelevant/old milk but yikes her ex’s friend posted this a while back after he died and wow just even more to show how bad Ashley’s old friend group was
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She deleted the recent one lol
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back to only fans and sex work because not having a car means you can't do ANY other job.
also i am not against sex work but the way she acts above it like "well i said i wasnt going to but i have no other choice" comes off super demeaning towards sex workers
Wow, so he was a cheater too. Gross. This girl has no shame admitting it either.>>1077806
I feel like she definitely isn’t in a healthy mental space and if she starts doing OF shit she’s going to regret it. I wonder what her new Connecticut bf thinks of it?
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She’s talking about how’s she sober and giving before and after
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Notice how the before and after was when her dead “fiancé” was in the picture now he’s not and she’s sober
>>1077806>demeaning towards sexworkers
In what world is selling asshole pics to strangers and or your body online not a "last resort"???
Coomers have ruined an entire generation if sex work is somehow now a prestigious profession kek
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Now ash says the story about relapsing was just a joke… but like girl why is it even remotely funny when you’ve been consistently struggling trying to prove you’re getting better with your little diary entries about your new coping skills
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some ppl never learn
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Been hanging out with her a lot lately pupils so large you can see the them through a video, pretty sure they’re both on it
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Various caps from her story defending herself
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posting about simon all of a sudden
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simon (her ex bf) passed away
Lmao lilia is right but she needs to stop name namefaging. Respect? Topkeke.>watch yourself
Girl go suck these dumb girls clits and their dead bfs dick somewhere else
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Forgot the damn cap, sorry!
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Post caps or don't post anon you're bumping the thread.
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The offending comment
I don't really recall him being abusive
but I thought I read on her story post breakup he just didn't support her online sexwork and egirl persona. (His messages seemed harsh but idk how she talked to him) Also drugs and mental ilness would be just a lot of fights I guess.
I don’t remember her saying he was abusive
. I do remember her posting some angry texts he sent her during their breakup but it was just him mocking her for being an e girl. As far as I can tell they broke up over lifestyle differences/her sex work/their drug addictions. Simon followed her Damagednerves account and was also tagging him in memes recently, so it’s safe to assume that they made up and became friends again.
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y is maddies nose so red? and only one side?
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"Someone I was close to just died. Im gonna post a picture of him grabbing my tit and caption it Lol!!"
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Considering this was posted back in September I’m going to assume it was an overdose
Also this thread is full of vendetta types “Who cares that some loser she dated died I hope she kills herself too!!11!!” What happened to just posting milk? it’s just shitting up the thread otherwise
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"uhhh.. I don't remember my live last night. I don't remember anything from last night. So if you could dm me and tell me what I fucking did that'd be great." This bitch is so hilarious.
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It's because you're dreadful IRL
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Maddie is in hospital. Quick better take a selfie so everyone knows!!
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Anyone else feel weird about vivadrag suddenly posting on main again after the influx of attention she got from Simon dying?
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the narcissism persists. Can’t take a break. Bad news is good publicity. It’s amazing seeing her life become a dumpster fire. Karma’s got her number.
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she’s on a roll now
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the extreme “heart shaped face” angle and shooping the bridge of her nose into oblivion
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Is she stupid or just stupid? The only reason she got robbed because of ashlee she was hanging out with. All she did was Ebeg afterwards not go to the police or anything, no sympathy for both of these dumb crackheads
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i love how obsessed she is with this thread LOL
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why is ashley the most annoying self-absorbed person in existence lmao. "omg i dont remember this at all" ok girl.
also earlier in her stories she speaks about how she agrees that she has such a "strong soul" because if she went through what she was going through now when she was younger then she would have killed herself but now the thought of killing herself had not even crossed her mind so she's doing great. really?? she was in the hospital from her self proclaimed OD suicide attempt literally 2 months ago.. girl keep your weird attention seeking stories straight
she's a classic narcissist, obsessed with herself and "proving the haters wrong." i can imagine her refreshing this page many times daily.
insensitive as fuck to "xDDD" away the fact that she tried to kill herself on drugs after her "abusive
ex fiancee uwu" ODed. the guy she decided to run away with now is 100% gonna have a "he was abusive
the entire time" story whenever they eventually break up. it's just a ticking timer when she pretends to be clean on IG when she's tweaked out the whole time
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Shes not even canceled lol people have to actually like you first. Insulting her followers and trying to get Trisha of all people to pay attention to her. And pornstar????? Cracked out pictures of your hairy muff and sucking 3 inches of dead fat gerard way for only fans is hardly considered being a pornstar. What a fucking loser.
she is not a pornstar, she's shilling nudes and videos for cheap on onlyfans, that doesn't make you a pornstar lol
and of course she wouldn't care about trisha being a racist, homophobic weirdo who claims she's trans and has multiple personalities within a year
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-Pay for her nose lol XD
-“I don’t even use filters on my posts anymore” re: indiscernible features in an outdoor photo
-remarks on her skin after rehab, of all things
someone is TriGGerD! and pitifully insecure. Whatever would you do without your phone?(XD)
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can she do 1 single thing without having to post it to social media?
Ashley conditioned Maddie from a young age to idolize her and has her wrapped around her finger. She ignores Maddie for months and then comes back into her life and basically love bombs the fuck out of her which keeps Maddie wanting more. Ashley is an island in Maddie’s miserable life and I think Ashley knows that. Maddie is still friends with Ashley even after her roommate ROBBED her(and then Ash stayed friends with him!). Ashley can always fall back on Maddie when the rest of her friends hate her. I think if Maddie got clean she would distance herself from Ashley and realize how shitty of a friend she is, but that’s pretty unlikely.
I would be impressed if Ashley helped Maddie get sober, but that would be risking her most loyal simp so she probably won’t.