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This thread concerns creators, artists, voice actors and others who work or are connected to the modern Western American animation and comics industry, filled with cows, hacks, groomers, woketards and self inserters who all know each other and/or have dated.
previous thread:
>>2032879Mark is fat and ugly
>>2037045Steven Universe artist tried to sell Rebecca Sugar's NSFW drawings
>>2037190Twitterfags tried to cancel a MLP artists for drawing a horse's hair wrong
>>2039352MLP G5 is ending, leaks for G6 are out
>>2040579The pixar lolicon vtuber tried to rebrand
>>2041394Velma is cancelled
>>2043740Bolhem Bouchiba, a top animator at Disney & Pixar ordered the rape of hundreds of young girls (ages 3-15) in the Philippines through live streaming
>>2044443Lackadaisy creator accused of defending a transphobe.
>>2049879Blackgryphon wrote a song about fucking sweetie belle
>>2053151Zeurel released monkey wrench episode 4, no one cared
>>2056127episode of Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur got scrapped because of Donald Trump winning the election
>>2056654Aang made a response to Jane(weird troon who might have molested his 5yo sister)
>>2058896 No. 2062808
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5/6
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6/6!
Sad to see promising artists lose exclusively to coom
No. 2062829
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a fujotif artist who worked on arcane, reaction to the creator of aracane stating that viktok and jayce are straight
No. 2064273
>>2062997Kek that's what i was thinking!
>>2062829I don't have much resentment towards fujos, but fujotifs are a different breed of crazy. Give it like 5 days before xitter gay boi tifs start talking about "erasure"
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Kyle Carrozza's final sentencing
No. 2065006
>>2064990Maybe he’ll focus on his career as a “comedy musician” lmfao
Wouldn’t be shocked if he kills himself, his animation career was all he had. His wife is gone, all of his associates have disavowed him. Should have thought about that before starting that CP collection.
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I can't believe some people in unironically like this,this shit looks soulless.its basically glorified Cocomelon garbage.
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Anyone seen Jentry Chau vs the Underworld? How are you liking it? From what I can glean from the trailer and audience reactions it seems like the romance plot is going to be annoyingly retarded
No. 2066431
>>2065919It literally looks like these children's videos or games. Like you said - soulless, empty and hollow.
>>2066279Kek how long till he gets caught doing something inappropriate and gets tons of videos and call out posts? People who do shit like that have billions of skeletons in the closet.
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>>2067598character looks like a 1:1 ripoff of pipi
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>>2067408Going off this one episode, it's not that bad? I like the animation. Compared to vizziepops eye bleeding fujo vomit and the goose tranny slop, it's alright. It's hilarious but sad that no one cares about it.
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it feels like kids' cartoons these days are being made to impress fellow adults rather than entertain children. shit has a dark aura.
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>>2067408>every male character is ugly as fuck>95% of female characters, including background characters, are cute/hotnot hard to see why this isn't popular. if you look at other indie animations that made it big (hazbin, lackadaisy, digital circus) they all have at least one character that appeals to women. this guy made his 2 main characters painfully ugly. kara also sucks as a character. one dimensional strongwoman furrybait. boring but she's the only reason it has an audience of neckbeard males
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>>2067764The one thing about this that makes me so happy is how magiswords was always unsuccessful, hated and everyone forgot about it. Im tired of pedohiles having successful lives prior to or even after getting exposed.
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>>2067764Im laughing so hard. He's shaped like that Pou thing.
No. 2067891
>>2067764>Magiswords styleToo specific,
nonny. Magiswords is clearly inspired by John K. John K inspired style of cartooning in general is the mark of the devil.
No. 2067892
>>2067780Is it just me or does this seem like a passive aggressive flex from the more popular creator kek
>>2067891Ah yes, he John K style is what I meant kek. Sex offender art phenotype.
No. 2067964
>>2067758funny you say that because this era has a dark aura too with john k and the degenerate rugrats storyboards
>>2067812do't ever compare pou to that thing again
No. 2068210
>>2068106Bad as usual. The troon's mindbreak fetish was really in your face this episode. There are hints of yuribait because of course… there are some "horror" moments that are FNAF tier and then there's a cringy ass scene where
the mask character tries to kill herself. There's a scene where Ragatha gets thrown in the deep frier and I'm sure the troon jerks off to that idea.
No. 2068389
>>2068106i finally got why this show looks so bad! there are no textures. pomni's hair and hat and jax's skin? fur? look like they are made of the same material, for example. and then there's the lighting that is super detailed highly realistic… well, maybe not that much, but it definitely doesn't go with the unrealistic cartoony enviroment.
what the fuck happened to the chess guy? knowing goosetroonx, it doesn't sit well with me that jax is now the only guy participating and that he's actively the only one being rude to the rest of the (female-dominated) cast.
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>>2067408Nice ripoff you got there!Zeurel.
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>trying to insert a throuple in a TV-Y7 showWhy are artists for kids’ animation like this kek.
At least this coomer fucked off from children’s shows and made Enceladus V which crashed and burned and now she’s pivoting to drawing porn
>>2058753 >>2058879
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>>2068106Gangle was fucking annoying (as usual)and even was more annoying in the EP almost stopped watching it because of her.This shit isn't even scary just pathetically try hard honestly Gangle should have just died it wouldn't have made a difference in this multicolored slop anyways.lame
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>>2068684Does anyone remember the whole Amphibia controversy with some questionable fanart? She defended it and was also involved in that.its super old and she was blocking a lot of people and I think one of her friends even threatened to blacklist some people from the animation industry.yeah I have never liked her,she was always a pretentious asshole.
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>>2068684Anyone have more context on picrel? From what I can understand, this seems to be related to the animation guild, and she voted yes to accept a contract agreement. A few fellow animators seem to be disappointed in her.
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>>2068684I fucking knew it, there was so much weirdness with these three and so many shitbait scenes between cass and eugene and rapunzel and cass and of course so many shots of the three of them
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>>2067598that walrus reminds me of a fat Gondola
Overall on the animation, I don’t like how it looks like it was made on fire alpaca
No. 2068986
>>2068684btw this is the "Storyboard Anon" who posts on /co/ that was mentioned last thread
>>2058814 >>2058879
>>2058959>>2068720this is the regarding a vote to ratify The Animation Guild's proposed contract with the AMPTP. there are no AI protections for artists in the contract so most people have announced they're voting NO. this includes some of the more outspoken voices in animation like Alex Hirsch and Matt Braly. i think this anon is on the right track though
>>2068750 i imagine more of the well-known show creators are in more generous positions than most..
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>>2068684>>2068696sorry for double posting but it seems like she’s in some new twitter discourse now. i don’t know anything about arcane so i don’t know if she’s being “based” or whatever. sometimes her opinions are fine i think she just has a really obnoxious way of going about it.
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>>2068684Someone really needs to do background checks these folks
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>>2068986She posted in /co/ again recently, she admitted had no faith in her animation before she released it and barely advertised it because of that.
>suoiresnuLooking him up, I guess I can’t judge her for being desperate for money, but kek. Considering her post on the animation guild situation, I guess she’s trying for both an industry job and a porn art career? Not that odd I think, just funny how open she is about it on twitter under her full name.
>>2069029Honestly this entire thread from her sounds like bait kek. The initial post and caption seem like she was going for controversy, and her additional comments sound like she’s egging people on to angrily reply to her. And it worked, it got way more attention and likes than her other caitvi art where they’re more intimate. Maybe she should consider a career in ragebait to carry her art lmao
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First it was the infamous MG ep. Then this. If it was a common cartoon about mixed teams, no one would care.
>A spokesperson for Disney confirmed that the story arc was removed and provided the following statement to THR: “When it comes to animated content for a younger audience, we recognize that many parents would prefer to discuss certain subjects with their children on their own terms and timeline.”
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>>2069227So who is it? I’m betting either the blond is a tim or the magenta hair is an enby
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>>2069227>If it was a common cartoon about mixed teams, no one would care.true, remember when they told us girls can be as good as boys? no more of that i guess.
>>2069245my bet's on the balloonhead next to the coach or the lanky tall guy next to the purple haired girl.
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>>2069232And in a cutesy style, noneless, like if a boy didn't have a difference from a girl.
>>2069245Even in Moon Girl the "Girls can be as good as boys" was stained by the infamous tranny character, the uncomfortable hijabi girl and the "evil Karen". Girls can be good as boys, but boys dressing as girls because they suck in sports are more
valid than girls.
My bet is also the purple haired girl is a NLOG, same with the girl on the left of the coach. Probably the guy clapping like an idiot is the TIM.
No. 2069271
>>2069227If it's a co-ed team in the story, I guess that's not
as bad. But gendershit doesn't belong in children's media, period. We shouldn't normalize an ideology that sterilizes preteens for being autistic, gay, or GNC.
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>>2069271Besides the trope of "mixed team" is older than black thread, see picrel and
>>2069270. Why do they need to add gender shit?
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>>2069245It was a TIM, I don't think he was featured on any of the promo images. Here's the description from the episode.
>The episode features the character Kai, a transgender girl on the team struggling with and working through her dysphoria with the help of her teammates. No. 2069291
>>2069287>>2069290We saw it in MG: The girls being fine and dandy with the TIM.
And lol I expected the blonde guy be the TIM.
No. 2069324
>>2069287>>2069290Was this removed because of tranny hysteria at the idea that they don't pass, or was it removed because Disney knows that there might be pushback, was it because China doesn't like trannies? My money is on the first reason. So many animators are gendies and they all shit themselves any time there's tranny representation anywhere because their entire identities revolve around suffering, but showing the suffering is tranny violence somehow, and showing them happy is tranny violence erasure, and nobody wins.
It's hilarious that Kai the TIM can only convince himself that he's a girl when handmaidens come to aid his delusions along.
It's set to air in February next year, it's weird that they pulled the tranny storyline out so late. Either the backlash was intense or this is a publicity stunt to make gendie adults watch this show. I hope they don't put the storyline back in, fuck telling kids that they're not good enough unless they fit a stereotype.
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>>2069358Ayrt, repeating myself but just like I said: it is a PERFECT self insert for tims. The entire thing feels manipulative and gross. I'm pretty sure some timothy was on animation team and based the character on himself.
>>2069227Forgot to even mention how ugly the cartoon is. Sure it looks like your average 3d big company movie and we've been getting them since 2010s, but this style feels like it's almost trying to mimic that 2010s style. Like some weird simulacra shit.
No. 2069411
>>2069236Ot and don't mean for this to descend into fandom stuff but for me it's the hypocrisy from the creators. Look at this totally inclusive lgbt lesbian relationship but it's
abusive lesbian couple #1373 because media refuses to make a healthy lesbian couple but gay men and bis always get the uwu soft and fluffy.
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>>2069599I doubt it was written by a TIM. TIMs are more into magical girls/full girl team than "mixed team" thing. If that were the case, I can assure you that none of the "boys" are TIF/NB because they don't care about women in general.
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>>2068684Oh my god… There are so much screencaps with this "throuple"!
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>>2069700This led me to go down a rabbit hole of tangled series drama, afaik hasn’t been posted in these threads, but I’m not an actual fan and just repeating based off screenshots and what other fans said so feel free to correct me
>Showrunner Chris Sonnenburg saw Cassandra as his waifu>Hated that Varian became the most popular character, his reasons being “this is rapunzel’s story” and “you’re missing the point of the show”>But actually he was pissed Varian became more popular than Cass>Openly hated on Varian fans and got banned from Tangled fan discord>show’s writing got screwed over because of his boner for Cass and hateboner for Varian>Creeped on this lesbian couple, particularly the woman who cosplayed Cass>later went to work for the Daily Wire No. 2069831
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>>2069828Her wife, the Cass cosplayer, posted a thread about Chris too.
https://x.com/solarsailerz/status/1559334192307208193There’s more details in the thread (it’s pretty long) but here’s a compilation of Chris Sonnenburg being a creep. By the way, this guy has a wife and 2 daughters. He claimed he was inspired by his daughters’ friendship with eachother and other girls to develop Cass as a friend for Rapunzel.
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>>2069828cass is for varian
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>>2069828There’s also this story submitted to the stories_of_tag Instagram by the other board artist that worked on the Varian spinoff pitch with Anna.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0wkYgUxfT2/ No. 2070069
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>>2069831>she deactivated her accountKek wtf, is this just a coincidence or did someone send her this thread. I forgot to actually archive the xitter link but I got shots of all the posts at least
>>2069962God this is psychotic, my condolences to her. Sonnenburg at least is blacklisted but I wonder who those other execs are (same ones listed on the series wiki article?), they may still be around
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>>2070069Back when he drunkenly leaked the blue Cass concept art
>#teamfuckvariannewbitchintownHe’s so pathetic kek
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>>2069031>>2069828I love this movie. I haven't watched the show but I've seen parts of it and it looks cute. You know, things like this make this thread simultaneously one of my favs and most hated on all of LC. I love the milk, but it increases my misanthropy by a factor of garillion too. Can't there be at least one person out there who works on a cartoon who is just a chill boring person. Somebody just normal about kids, and family programming, and is mentally ill on their own time in a benign way that has nothing to do with kids or animation. Jfc. If something comes out about the people at Cartoon Saloon I'm toast.
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>>2070139I think it's a TV show not a movie, also
>Don’t worry helpless little girl, that boy in the bathroom is actually a boyWhat?
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>>2070188
>Is the show actually fetish fuel, though? The creator having a lesbian fetish is the first I've heard of it, did they insert more coomer stuff into the show?
thankfully, other than a handful of implied scenes with the three of them framed together nothing outright fetishistic happens, the worst thing about the show is that it's deeply inconsistent with its plot and filler, and cass's character was basically ruined in season 3
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>>2070189i personally remember a lot of weird feet scenes that took me out
No. 2070210
>>2070142>Can't there be at least one person out there who works on a cartoon who is just a chill boring personThere are plenty but you don’t hear about them because they’re chill and boring normies who use the internet to share their work and nothing else and don’t make social media their entire identity
>>2070183Wasn’t Pixar actually working on a full length movie about a MtF child several years ago? I vaguely remember an open call audition looking for trans kids
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>>2070210>Wasn’t Pixar actually working on a full length movie about a MtF child several years ago? I vaguely remember an open call audition looking for trans kidsMaybe something happened during production, but the open call audition was for Win or Lose. There is an interview with the voice actor about it. Picrel, he's still in the show but his character is now a 'straight cis girl' and any mentions about being trans was removed, kek.
https://deadline.com/2024/12/win-or-lose-transgender-actress-speaks-after-disney-cuts-storyline-1236209109/ No. 2070546
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>change.org
Yeah, good luck on that.
No. 2070685
>>2070583I do believe they're testing the water too. Many authors/artist tend to forget that "kweer public" do not buy/consume nothing even if they're the target, they cry and whine nothing represent them, but cry and whine if they're represented in a "wrong way".
Besides we saw the reaction of the TIM in MGDD, many were pissed the cartoon wasn't "diverse enough" (there were many times that it was quite diverse) or ignored that there was a hijabi girl who probably was afraid to undress next to lil Timmy.
If other animation house will take that horrid movie, I bet that they are going to regret it as soon as there are tons of TIMS claiming "this is not real representation".
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New Animation Guild three-year contract is passed. Heavy majority voted yes. But a few aren’t very happy that nobody wants to fight back AI.
https://deadline.com/2024/12/animation-guild-ratifies-deal-studios-1236240958/ No. 2070924
>>2070583Probably. Normies are fed up with tranny shit and kids aren't going to watch things because they want to support the alphabet brigade.
>>2070685>Many authors/artist tend to forget that "kweer public" do not buy/consume nothing even if they're the target, they cry and whine nothing represent them, but cry and whine if they're represented in a "wrong way"This. And not enough normies give a shit about tranny feefees to think that the bathroom scene is heart wrenching, they'd think it's creepy as fuck and possibly commit acts of transphobia like suggesting that a boy should not be in a girl's bathroom, or worse, suggest that any kid whose perception of themselves is that warped should see a therapist. And that would genocide all the TIMs so we can't have that.
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>>2070924With them is like "Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't". They can claim is "for the kids so they learn about their gender", but kids usually care about being Heroes, Anime characters or even Dinosaurs. Not mention also if a male kid can raise well a doll, it means he can be good father but noooooo is a girl egg.
>And that would genocide all the TIMs so we can't have that."And do not forget TIFS and NB" "Who cares, we are the
victims! We are in the last privileged card! Please care for us!".
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>>2071066The "girl in an only-men team" trope is so outdated, it should be a "boy in an only-women team".
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>>2071110Co-ed teams are also an old trope, it doesn't need to be trannyslop, this cartoon didn't need to have a tranny.
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>>2071153In fact it would have been interesting to see a tranny in a co-ed team, because in MGDD it was a tim in an only-women team. Probably he would have been "is not the same!" or shown that "he's safe near girls, he should be allowed to be in the girls rest room".
Dunno, I feel like
>>2070583 and see if kids are really interested about tranny rep, or just the adults that will find any mistake in the representation.
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Did anyone else see that Amber/Danny Cragg is getting divorced? Guess that throuple thing didn’t work out after all. Who’d have thought?
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>>2071854they were a pair of storyboard artists for steven universe, for those who don't remember, picrel was how they drew themselves
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>>2071869this is what they really looked like
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>>2071854The moment they decided to have Andrew Hussie officiate their wedding, the relationship was doomed kek. I'm not shocked they eventually "opened" the relationship for a scrote, and that one of them kicked the other to the curb to stay with his nasty ass. Many such cases. "Open" and "poly" relationships are for people too spineless to just admit that they want to break up and date someone else.
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>>2071882>>2071872kekk and of course it's the uggo fat tif that got kicked to the curb so the normie woman could get the moid to herself.
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>>2071886Bringing back this pearl
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>>2071854her giga cringe comics are suddenly so funny now, its like magic!
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Apparently Disney has told Pixar to tone down the environmentalist themes of the upcoming movie ‘HOPPERS’
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>>2071892her "comics" are soooo fucking ugly and unfunny and boring it's incredible that shes an industry professional
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all of her comics are about her doing nothing, and being constantly exhausted due to her obesity. no wonder they dropped the dead weight in the relationship.
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>>2053151I’ve always heard rumours that he lived with the voice actor of Apple Bloom (14 at the time) in her family’s basement. I never had proof until now.
https://x.com/blackgryph0n/status/1207101051557384192?s=46&t=mLPolOfODRz3cWTQSJiHcw No. 2071938
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>>2071887literally picrel
No. 2071989
>>2071854>when I was 13 i found out who my biological dad wasSo he did not want her the first time and she
still took his name? Kek
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>>2071980>if it's a tifsure is. she's the blob in the yellow shirt doing the autism stance in the background of
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>>2072031Rogers. For some reason her full birth name is on imdb lol
No. 2072037
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From Shelby's blog – apparently not the one to initiate the divorce kek
No. 2072038
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picrel, 2024 portrait
No. 2072148
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>>2072136How much you wanna bet ambers transition drove her to the arms of another (real) man and amber just coulent bear to be in a "relationship" with shelby and the thing she can never be. Feels like enough to drive someone crazy. All her little comics show her not having much of a relationship with brian and also like prev nona said…it was more like they were her parents
No. 2072169
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>>2072168Someone else. That was Lauren Zuke.
No. 2072287
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>>2072169>>2072175Looks like it. God steven universe was a hotbed of troon contagion kek
No. 2072417
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>>2072287No fucking way that’s actually her. What the hell happened to her art? Is this a stylistic choice or did she just stop drawing all together
Picrel her doodle from 8 years ago
No. 2072451
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>disney is rumored to be making a mother gothel prequel film
No. 2072506
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>>2071892Mind you shes autistically ranting about a game that isnt even out yet
No. 2072517
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>>20725094chan moids will never understand that bisexual NLOGs can fall in love with the ugliest and fattest of moids by mere overexposure to them so long as they act relatively normal. They are simply too intrinsically off-putting and anti-social to tolerate being around a woman without immediate gratification, and that’s in the rare instances where women don’t immediately flee from their presence due to the obvious bad vibes
>>2071989So many TIFs were very obviously not wanted by their fathers, it’s a chicken or egg situation though
>>2072460From what I can tell he doesnt have any social media, Shelby has posted on her tumblr account on his behalf both about medical updates and their etsy shop—apparently he makes the jewelry they sell? He probably has no involvement in the industry and just is a normie who likes basic artsy shit, and I don’t blame Shelby for prioritizing that over someone going further and further down the troon rabbit hole. Ik shelby said the divorce was amber’s idea but i feel like that truly isn’t the case and she just manipulated amber into it by letting her think it was her idea, and shelby saying it was her idea outright just convinces me of that 100%
>>2072417I think it’s just a stylistic choice, picrel is another screenshot from her ig. She seems like she is focusing on form and simplicity and seems removed from making more fandomy art apart from the pokemon shit. Also this is the caption for one of the drawings in the other screenshot:
“Starting to realize that the era of my life where the Internet analyzed my online presence because I worked on a TV show was kind of FUCKED UP and did a lot of emotional damage, what was that about???
Seriously I deleted my twitter and got 1000 emails about it and people wrote Articles
And none of that changed! People just got worse! Im done cooking bro I'm serving my shit raw“
She probably just isn’t posting more involved art because of that. NLOGs experiencing misogyny make me depressed because why are they so convinced slapping the he/him in bio will make people leave them alone
No. 2072530
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>>2072460>>2072517She has a insta and a insta for her etsy and yeah she seems to post fot both of them. One post she called him the love of her life back in october. She sure moved on fast from her 8 year marriage lmfao
No. 2072532
>>2071892What's the point of this comic? The punch line seems like they're making fun of her.
>>2071920Considering how useless she portrays herself, I'm not surprised Amber's wife ditched her for someone who at least had a driver's license.
No. 2072544
>>2072456>Let's all join hands and pray that we get to have a shitty kid who got progressively shittier and feels absolutely no remorse for any of her actionsLike Megatron in Transformers One?
(spoilers)
No. 2072546
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>>2072460no idea if he has a day job besides that but he does the writing for their webcomic and also makes middle school ass bead lizards. he sells these for 25-30 bucks apiece too lol
>>2072532none of her comics have a point. It's all childish " i like doing x" "i hate doing y" "today i did this". there are never any punchlines, it's supposed to be a slice of life comic but she has no idea how comics actually work. it's obvious shes a massive autist.
>>2072517it seems amber really got fucked over un the divorce bc if you look at old social media for their shit webcomic, she did a lot of lineart and seemed very invested in it. but now the neokosmos tumblr page no longer has her name on it, shelby and the moid have renamed the project and claim all credit for it, and shelby is going around saying amber wasn't that invested in it anyway.
then again amber seems really stunted and childish, so even if she intitated the breakup it probably wasn't too hard for the other two to fleece her
No. 2072570
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>>2072517I think she probably changed her name with the intent to dodge the limelight of being associated with Steven Universe and her various controversies. I don’t agree with a lot of Lauren Zuke’s behaviors, but It’s pretty crushing even as an outsider to see her reduced to posting stuff like picrel. Clearly there’s been some sort of realization on her end about the vague dangers of the internet.
Sidenote but there’s something really eerie to me about the these social-justice brained Californians making children’s cartoons. Particularly the crewniverse. They treat it as a soapbox to project their dumb ass adult insecurities onto. They front like it’s some deep, profound shit. In reality it’s incredibly self-masturbatory and deranged. Zuke did this a lot, where she whined about how she only wanted to portray characters who were “just like her!!!1” and were queer and struggled with mental illness. I’m sorry but I don’t think that should be encouraged. Those are your fatal flaws at the end of the day. You should actually be taking shit like that to grave instead of flanderizing your issues to the public and the pre-teens who watch your shows. These niggas think they are their ocs and fail to grasp they’re mostly embarrassing adults who don’t know how to handle their issues maturely.
No. 2072619
>>2072575i think its probably related to the lingering affect mentioned here
>>2072517 its not just a fat moid thing
i think womens sexualities function a lot less like the kinsey scale and literally just around which people they are around and like the most and can have a more of a psychological codependent relationship with than actual romantic and sexual attraction. im sure amber and shelbys relationship was probably that classic type of perfect bad relationship that works for ten plus years bcs one person i a needy mess and the other the relatively more stable one and they "balance each other out" and can build a life together. womens bonds i think are a lot more based on resources and a sense of security than pure attraction like mens are
No. 2072621
>>2072602NTA and I agree with you, but queer=/=gay. You can't choose to be gay and there's nothing wrong with it, however identifying as "kweer" is absolutely a choice, and a retarded and regressive one at that.
>>2072575Kekkk holy shit, was everyone in the Crewniverse this milky? I have a lot to catch up on.
No. 2072624
>>2072618There's not much I remember
nonnie, I think it was Shellby's Sister got with Hussie when she was 16 and him 35, in 2014 and last I Heard they were engaged to be married. You might find more Milk related to this in the Homestuck threads in /m/
No. 2072634
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Im pretty sure i found "brian" on tumblr and… it's a tif
https://xeras-ankar.tumblr.com/tagged/Personalthe personal posts have a lot of shit about hormones and top surgery.
No. 2072639
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>>2072634Samefag sorry i forgot to spoiler the long ass pic but also amber/danny posted a big life update back in july which she since deleted, but was saved through brian's reblogs.
back in july she was still "actively" working on neokosmos but now shelby is saying she was disengaged from the project to justify tossing her. that divorce must have been some shit
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>>2072628Nobody knew at the time, they kept it hidden, people only found out he was dating Shellby's Sister when Hussie's mom announced they were engaged in a public boomerbook post
>>2072637Can't believe oqnership of picrel is the shit that brought them to divorce
No. 2072664
>>2072660I agree with
>>2072662 she’s probably just an enby. There’s this video from 11 years ago and she’s clearly just a regular woman
No. 2072672
>>2072639hahaha ooohhhnoooo not the obese tumblrina who got memed into transitioning giving the obligatory “omg I’m no longer a sheltered pimple faced dweeb I did adult stuff gais!! I’m so down to earth!! Touch grass!!!” Speech After spending 3 months doing outdoor kayaking or some shit. I didn’t even bother reading half that dribble, I knew it was all fake nonsense.
> the post has since been deletedThis bitch thought she was thriving. Lmao
(sage your shit) No. 2072691
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>>2072634kek brian being a tif was a plot twist i did not expect
No. 2072852
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Saging for non cow specific milk, but I tried to find a general animation thread on /m/ and didn’t find any that wouldn’t involve necroing.
>with 20000 votes, the amazing digital circus takes the Moonie award for Best Web Animated series.
>helluva boss takes second place with 17000 votes.
>Skibidi toilet places third with 3000.
Web animation is dead kek
No. 2073189
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Saberspark is getting called out by the creator of Bunny Maloney for his click bate video, they posted a really long comment in his YouTube shorts.
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>>2072616Sorry for autism but Shelby's sister Michaela (mkla.cosplay) was born in 1994, not 1998.
Either way, seeing as Shelby was a part of Hussie's circle as early on as 2011 (judging by the timeline of her contributions to the comic - I haven't been following Homestuck shit in almost a decade at this point), she was likely pimping out her sister to Hussie for clout when she was indeed 16 and he was 31. The gag in Act 6 about Hussie proposing to Vriska had real-life basis.
>>2072618>>2072628There's bits and pieces about it in
>>981279, but I'm also surprised no one's really talked about it anywhere after all these years besides here and KF. The most recent evidence of their being together comes from his dumb e-boy Instagram account featuring Michaela's BTS merchandise in late 2020. All else I can find on the two comes from anons implying to be former friends/associates in the aforementioned thread. Are they still together? Does anyone have evidence of them actually being married, or did I just hallucinate a pic of their wedding (not the one of Hussie officiating Shelby and Amber's) floating around a few years back?
No. 2073427
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>>2073422>lesbianI’m pretty sure they’re supposed to be tranny faggots
No. 2073439
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>>2073427No, I've seen the comics, these characters are both
supposed to be real women. The comics themselves are very hit-or-miss (more misses than hits), I cannot fucking fathom why anyone thought they needed animation.
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>>2073442Ayrt, I actually don't think the creator is a TIM. He sure looks like a normal enough dude on his LinkedIn (picrel) but troonism
can strike at any time… Either way, the show feels like a shitty attempt at marketing Beavis and Butthead to lesbians kek
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>>2073422ok i kek'd at the Adulting reference
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>>2073422The door farce fakeout was the best gag of the episode
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>>2073422My main gripe is that it looks too "clean", in the comics there's constantly slime and trash and knives and broken shit everywhere and holes in the walls.
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>>2073482In the comic Keith did add a LSmark look alike and referencing the whole retarded drama that went down with Daft
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>>2073464I didn't even think to look for a wedding band in the posts on dclussie, good point. He starts wearing a band in photos from October 2020 onward. Looks like he married his Vriska after all.
I imagine Michaela's now-locked Twitter account may have been the source of my suspected mass-hallucination of their wedding photos. Wonder if any nonas in this thread might be following but 392's a tiny pool.
I'm probably reading into it too much, but her bio being "I'm 30 [now]" when none of her other social media profiles bother to mention her big age is giving me "Hussie instructed me to lock everything the fuck down and and help him preemptively deflect anyone getting wise to the fact that he groomed me". Fuck the Cragg and Hussie families for ever encouraging this, I hope she wakes up.
No. 2073543
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>>2073538Samefag, here's a pic showing the wedding band.
This is a 41 year old man with dick and balls.
No. 2073553
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>>2073422i didn't hate it tbh. not great or anything but i wouldn't mind seeing more episodes. and i hate to say it but normal old fashioned lesbian fetishization feels like a breath of fresh air in the troon age
No. 2073576
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>>2073571Holy shit nona the fear that struck me rn, I thought you meant the author of these sweet old books! Should have guessed it was a similarly named piece of shit ‘comix’
No. 2073763
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>>2070416It’s old, but this is what the tranny looks like
No. 2073781
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>>2073763Kek why does it look like that
No. 2073866
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>>2073781I think he looks more like Lovely Peaches if she was a Tranny
(sage your shit) No. 2074442
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>>2074130Posting video here in case this gets deleted.
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curious
No. 2074557
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>>2071886Christ, Neokosmos is still being reworked? I remember reading the original comic nine years ago, and then I got morbidly curious and read the second draft… that came out in 2022. I don't remember any of it being that outstanding either.
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>>2073768I'm sorry but the tattoo "of one of those egg guys from Hazbin that Joe Gran used to voice!" made me kek, especially with Joe's seething about hazbin and the industry with his huge ego
No. 2074999
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>>2073439i gotta admit this one makes me always laugh
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>>2073439>>2074643>>2074799Why the fuck did I think it was referencing picrel
No. 2075007
>>2073439Why are wokies ok with a man writing about lesbians? I hate being one of
those but current feminism is dead and rotting.
>>2073553Straight up admitting he's drawing these as for the coom!!!
No. 2075493
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>>2074999Is he trying to make the blonde one Super Milk Chan? Nothing creative with these troons
No. 2075520
>>2075372Yeah, wks like
>>2073553 are straight up batshit.
>normal old fashioned lesbian fetishization feels like a breath of fresh air in the troon ageBreath of fresh air in the troon age??? This fags jokes are all about eggs about to crack, how burning JKRs twansphobic books is based, and lesbian tiddies. Which part of that is anything
but your regular tranny slop? he's 5 seconds away from trooning out. Has to be either him or his retarded wks he sent here defending him.
No. 2075566
>>2075564i mean
what is there to write about?
No. 2075650
>>2075007theyre the generation thats been brainwashed into believing writing/enjoying BL is bad, despite guys being able to consume/fetishize yuri without any pushback. they've also been convinced that grown ass men with dicks can be women.
First world gen Z'er have so little problems, they have to create new ones.
No. 2075692
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Skimming the venture bros art book and saw this page, where the creator Jackson Publick (Christopher McCulloch) is talking about pissing in the kitchen sink. Moids are so disgusting, hopefully he doesn’t live with anyone kek
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>>2075792Almost forgot, YOLO: Crystal Fantasy was actually pretty funny and featured two female leads (but of course it was also made by a male, Michael Cusack who also did one of the voices.)
No. 2075804
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>>2075787This piece of shit? I don’t hold yuri hags in high regard but this would be a new low
(sage your shit) No. 2075805
>>2075804I can
smell the mental illness and rapeape genes that went into making this picture.
No. 2075821
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>>2075692All nerdy moids are unhygienic as fuck kek. At least he doesn’t admit to pissing in bottles a la Shane dawson. Also picrel always reminds me of the monarch, he would definitely post on r/sinkpissers.
No. 2079106
>>2079055I actually agree, this
>>2079042 looks
really cool and, if successful, bodes well for the industry. Excited to be entering an era where western animators can break free of the Y7/TV14 rating and flex their drawing arms again. Doesn't Glitch Productions make Digital Circus though? I hope Knights of Guinevere is less fetishy… but I'm not optimistic kek
No. 2079304
>>2079216sources would be better than just /co/ rumors or whatever
>add a magic schoolit’s always been there since the pitch
>remove trans/queer charactersthe show still has trans/queer characters
>add more action scenesthose were literally the peak moments of the show
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>>2079304NTA, but there's this.
https://archive.org/details/owl-house-pitch-bibleIt seemed like the magic school was supposed to be on the backburner, while the primary focus of the show was Luz and Eda's relationship.
Disney also had her add some diversity friends with Willow and Gus, Gus not even existing in concept who was originally some small nerdy dragon.
>>2079563Owl House had zero fujobait. The most popular gay male ship Hunter/Edric, didn't even interact.
No. 2079980
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>>2075692The more of this book I read the less I like them as people. Still love the show though kek
>>2075715>normieHe's literally a goon, nona. He used to post on the SA forums with his idol Shmorky
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the writers of the castlevania nocturne released an interview discussing how anyone who is against the decisions they made is simply a racist or a bigot. now, I actually liked aspects of season 2, but there was a lot of weird pandering (all the egyptian gods were portrayed as black, and voodoo was the only religion treated more seriously and less skeptically than christianity ever was). I can ignore that, but this article is just so full of bullshit, mostly with the writers talking about themselves and how their backgrounds justified their changes as and claiming that the original series wasn't doing enough
>Isaiah Colbert, io9: Castlevania is a series rich with fully realized characters, especially when it comes to its Black characters. We’ve seen this in the past with characters like Isaac, and now we’re witnessing it again with Annette, Edouard, and Drolta.
>While fans have come to expect Eurocentric historical events like the French Revolution to coincide with a fantastical story like Nocturne‘s, the show surprised folks the world over by focusing on Black revolutions as well. What inspired the idea of adding that element to Nocturne‘s story?
>Clive Bradley: Once we had the setting of the French Revolution (which came from Rondo of Blood being set in 1792), it was vital, I think, to find some way to include the Haitian Revolution. The most radical thing the French Revolution did was abolish slavery, but the fundamental reason for that was that enslaved people were abolishing it themselves in the French colony of Saint-Domingue (later Haiti). Of course, then, you need characters to dramatize this. And having a relationship between one of these characters and the “hero” of the game, Richter, seemed an obvious choice.
>Of course, the next step was to build a writers’ room with writers who could help flesh this out. I’m so honored to have found Testament, Zodwa, and Temi [Oh], who did such a marvelous job.
>Nyoni: What I found interesting was that conversation about where the line between fiction and reality is. I’m a history buff. I love politics and research, so I loved the idea of leaning in on the work that I already do as an academic or as a writer in theater or screen, but also meeting the world of Castlevania. Myself, Temi, and Testament came on board to realize this vision that allowed us to not only bring ourselves and our cultural backgrounds to it [but also] open up the space for more research.
>Testament: What I like about working with Zodwa and Temi is that certain go-to cliches have been used in portrayals of global majority heritage characters, and we wanted to be real. We’ve seen those hairstyles a bunch, and they’re not historically accurate. We can be fresh with that and keep it in history. The Haitian Revolution, again, [had] famous women who were generals, leaders, and warriors like Marie-Jeanne Lamartinière, Victoria Montou (aka Toya), and Suzanne Bélair. It’s just history.
>Ten years ago, we weren’t talking about it until people went back and gone, “Oh yeah, Cécile Fatiman was doing spells in the woods and then going and fighting plantation owners.” That’s a real true-life story; she wasn’t the only woman. A bunch of women were in leadership doing that, so we’re just drawing on real things, putting it into our fantasy, and hopefully continuing that tradition of mashing together historical periods, dope animation, and representing it.
>io9: What was your guiding principle for enriching Nocturne‘s Black characters with mythological elements tied to African culture and real-life events like chattel slavery and the Haitian Revolution?
>Nyoni: We were fortunate throughout the process to work with a Haitian American scholar called Cécile Accilien. Much of her work revolved around Francophone studies, so she gave us cultural and historical context. That specificity was significant for us to think about how we accurately represented the Haitian Revolution and found space for creative license. We spent so much time cultivating and finding points of accuracy and even conversing with Netflix about the choice of language—what to label accurately. Those things were important for us in the process.
>Testament: The first season was so much about freedom. There’s a continual theme about people finding and fighting for freedom in different ways. Thematically, it just made sense. History has always been viewed through a particular lens; certain characters have fallen by the wayside. Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, Alexandre Dumas’ father, was this war hero in charge of one of the biggest armies in the French Revolution. There are people like Chevalier Saint George who mentored him, but this has been erased from history. It was people like Napoleon who brought back slavery after the French Revolution got rid of it, had beef with Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, and tried to leave the black guy in prison.
>I’m half African heritage and half European in my bloodline. I have slave owners on my African side and on my European side, slaves and oppressed. I’m passionate about hearing different sides of the human experience, and that’s what great art can do. We can have a platform for different stories, but not just for the sake of it to push the narrative forward. Being historically accurate, you’re gonna see some Black faces and Black stories pop up, so we wanted it to be authentic and not just people put it in there for the sake of it.
>io9: Were there any elements vital to you for Nocturne to nail in the writers’ room regarding Black representation?
>Zyoni: Everything felt vital. Being able to go back and have conversations with the directors and the animators about hair texture, clothing, and cultural research on why certain characters have specific clothing and facial features. We did all of that work because representation felt important to us. When you start thinking about where we jumped to in time, there’s no way we can land in in Haiti suddenly with way more Black characters and not do the work and create a series that felt true to research.
>io9: There have always been clichés for how Black characters are represented in animation. Whether it’s how hair isn’t quite right or how, if Black character is a monster, it’s leaning on stereotypes that aren’t kosher. What was the collaborative process between the animation team and the writers over how characters should look in the show?
>Nyoni: I remember conversing about the evolution of Annette’s hair. They drew up different hairstyles, [studied] the meaning behind getting the hair texture accurate, and then went back and looked at images. We can’t be doing all this contextual research around world-building but not go back and look at what these characters look like.
>At one point, I was going, “The shape of the nose isn’t right. You can’t do this copy-and-paste thing of the same physical features but then just make everybody shades of brown. It just isn’t going to work.” So we sat down and talked a lot about why that mattered. I think what was really great is the team was always open to those conversations and understanding. Representation isn’t just about whether or not are we using the right language. It’s also about what is it we visually see.
>I really appreciate being included in those kinds of conversations because it meant this idea around representation had a through line across the board. I hate it when you watch shows and you go, “Oh, they got that element right, but they completely didn’t pay attention to this thing here.” It’s also to do with the length of time it takes to create this series. You have more space to have those conversations. It helps to have a receptive team that wants to hear why those things are necessary as opposed to trying to cut corners.
>io9: Nyoni, as the writer of Annette’s breakout episode in season one, what was your reaction to the response?
>Nyoni: When we were talking about which episodes everybody wanted to write, I was always drawn to Annette. I wanted to write an origin episode and think about where she comes from, her family’s background, and the connection to her spirituality, ancestors, deities, and Orishas.
>It’s been lovely seeing spaces where Annette is embraced and celebrated. People love how badass and complex she is, but [also] seeing how people discuss Annette in relation to the games and the expectations of Black characters—whether or not it’s about their visibility or in spaces where they’ve decided that Black folks shouldn’t be visible. It’s interesting thinking about how people pick at this idea of Blackness, visibility, or representation in fictional spaces and whether or not we’re having multiple conversations within this show.
>We need to be able to go, “What’s the thing that we’re saying about fictional stories? What’s the thing that we’re saying about adaptations? What’s the thing that we’re saying about blackness and visibility?” But sometimes it feels like all this stuff got enmeshed into one and exposed people’s prejudice and racial biases. I’ve always been massively proud of Annette as a character. It felt like such a privilege to write her and see people’s reactions to the depiction of voodoo and Orishas and loving it.
>io9: There’s a scene in season two where Richter and Annette discuss Henry the Last’s execution, allyship, the consequences of revolutions, and those who symbolize authority meeting their end, right or wrong. How important was keeping that prescient revolution theme ongoing while having characters converse without talking down to each other?
No. 2080750
>>2080746>Nyoni: When people start revolutions, they are determined to challenge the institutions that no longer serve them. Having characters like Annette as the voice of that change, we’re doing it on different levels where we can tackle the meaning, purpose, and desire for the Haitian Revolution. Inevitably, we have this dynamic with levels of protagonist and antagonist—whether or not it’s in the context of Castlevania or the world we live in. You’ve got to find your people and organize to effect change.>We see this at the top of the series when Annette seeks out the Belmonts. You constantly have to find your tribe of people who are also invested in this change that you want to bring about. We cannot do it alone.>This idea that revolutions and civil rights movements happen and everything is done is not true because society is a living, breathing thing constantly organizing. What I really liked about the way we edited season one is that sometimes you get this idea that everything’s tied up nicely in a bow, and you’re done. But the fight continues, and I think it will continue regardless of whether we’re in a season three, four, or five. The fight doesn’t just begin or end with you. Characters like Annette must return to their ancestors for that internal strength and rich conversation around revolution. In the African context, you’re not fighting alone with those alive. You’re also doing it with the living dead; their answers never leave you and are part of your strength in the fight.>Testament: What I love about our writers’ room is that we’ve all got slightly different political nuances, and none of us want to dumb down. For example, the church was sending Trevor to fight vampires, whereas, in the Castlevania Netflix series, the Church instigated the whole crisis in the first place. Texture, layers, and history are fused within that love for the game.
>io9: What was your favorite character moment in Castlevania: Nocturne that you had a hand in writing, and why?>Testament: Drolta is one of my favorite characters. Even before we’d written the dialogue and saw the design for her, I was like, “This is the person I want to go for drinks with.” In my episode, we get to see a bit of her backstory and why she is the way she is, which ties back to her African heritage via the Nubians in Egypt—the different cults and different religions within Egypt at the time. I was talking to Egyptologists at Manchester University about, you know, what they would have used and what the ceremony would have been.>Of course, we have some dramatic licenses, but we take them seriously. We still have this British sensibility—that sort of irony and dryness from the first and fourth seasons. Although Temi is of Nigerian heritage, Zodwa is Zimbabwean, I’m half English, half Ghanaian, we’ve fully grown up in schools and education and a culture of very dry humor, snarkiness, sarcasm, and nerdiness. That spans a singular race. To honor the Haitian Revolution, which was the only fully successful slave uprising for a whole nation was a monumental moment—all the world paid attention to [it] at the time, and the French empire got a bloody nose from that.
>Nyoni: We talk a lot about spirituality and Annette’s connection with her ancestors in the first season, but by the time we get to the second season, we’re not able to delve into that world because, up to this point, so much of kind of her access has always been through Cécile Fatiman. Now, there’s so much growth within her and her powers that we can see how she transports herself into other realms and assists the team in fighting Erzsabet in unexpected ways.>io9: There’s been a rise in the gaming zeitgeist that coincides with the entertainment industry, where stories centering on Black characters are deemed woke and pejorative. For Nocturne specifically, a small minority of the viewing audience scoffed at the swapping of Annette, accusing the series of not remaining faithful to the games as “Blackwashing” or forced inclusivity for a “Black quota.” As a writer, what’s your reaction to the discourse that routinely sounds off whenever a Black character is highlighted in a show?>Bradley: [Richter’s] girlfriend in the game is Annette, which is a French name, so we used that name. It certainly wasn’t because of some supposed need for a “quota” of Black characters. Netflix never said anything about that. It flowed from the logic of the story we wanted to tell.>A minority of the audience have attacked the show as “woke,” and so forth. Of course, on one level, that was to be expected. But it’s quite disturbing, to be honest, that some people see the element of the story which is, at core, ‘slavery is bad, freedom is good’, as controversial—or simplistic or something—and “woke.” I think maybe some people haven’t grasped that the Haitian Revolution was a real thing that actually happened, which most people don’t know about. If it’s “woke” to tell a story which is partly about that, well, so be it.>Testament: I think all conversation is welcome as long as we aren’t shutting down conversation on whatever side. I think it’s an opportunity to talk about how the French Revolution had important Black people. When the new politics of the revolution was starting, you had freed slaves in parliament.
>The first Black representative was in Paris during that era. There was a Black area of Paris at that time. That’s real stuff.>Even going back to that famous conversation between Richter and Dracula [in the games], they talk about slavery and religion. Richter asks Dracula, “You wanna enslave all men’s souls?” This freedom narrative for Richter goes back to the games; all we’re doing is adding to that. Hopefully, taking limited characters like Annette [who] in the computer games has purple hair and is a damsel in distress originally that hasn’t got many lines [or] much of a story arc, it’s like, “Please save me, Richter. I believe in you, Richter.” That’s her story arc.>Annette starts at a different place but grows to believe in Richter. She isn’t a damsel in distress but can handle her own as women in that period did, historically. We just conveniently forget about it sometimes. Richter is still the hero, still kicks butt, and takes names. He’s flawed; he’s on a journey. To start with him was like Arnold Schwarzenegger didn’t make sense for us. He’s still the main dude; he has strong supporting friends.>Nyoni: It’s interesting when you think about these perceived white spaces that Black characters and people are not supposed to exist in. Historically, Black folks have been around in spaces where white people think that we have not been. We have long-rooted histories in spaces. You end up with this outcry about Blackwashing and you go, “What’s the thing that you are actually afraid of?” When we go back to the series, there is this evolution of characterization with what do you do with Annette from the game to the TV series. Where do adaptations sit? What space are they allowed to occupy? Nobody’s stopping you from playing the games.>There’s something really interesting and creative we’re doing with the series that allowed us to end up with this character with a Haitian background that looked back to Yorùbá. We were able to create a character that felt more relevant to the space and world that we had built, and I think it would have been just so massively incomprehensible to have landed during the kind of Haitian revolution without showing that vastness of Blackness, culture, religion, and meaningful representation.>In popular culture, when it comes to the representation of people of color, I think it is crucial, and there is nothing about the existence of Annette that I regret. I am so proud of that character, and I’m so proud of the work that has gone in not only with myself but with the writing team as a whole that we’ve done in her narrative thread in the world we built together. Somebody else’s prejudice and racism are not for me to tackle. I just have to continue to write great stories. That is my only task.
>io9: What impact do you hope Castlevania: Nocturne‘s story will have on the gaming and animation industry?>Nyoni: When the first series came out, we saw the impact in real-time. Once the series had been out for a while, we started to see cosplay and go, “Oh snap, people are embodying the idea you had of all these characters.” It is exciting to have more spaces where you can find new writers and writers can find themselves. But it takes showrunners like [Bradley] to say “I need new voices in the space.” Showrunners and producers have to work to bring those voices in; otherwise, where do we find that entry point? I don’t know how else I would have gotten here if they hadn’t requested different voices in the space.>Testament: The power of stories to share different experiences [with] our love of video games and culture. When I grew up, there weren’t heroes who looked like me, so we had Bruce Lee. There were some athletes, but in terms of the animated space and the anime space, you had Kaneda—he was my guy—but he didn’t look like me. I love Akira and everything it says about government and how we live our lives. You can have a cool motorbike chase, but you can also think about what totalitarian states are.>[Castlevania: Nocturne has] a great opportunity to have conversations and to discuss things that don’t typically get discussed. My favorite art gives me sensation and emotion but also might leave me with other things to like to think about. No. 2080754
>>2080746I don't understand how they just can't create
original POC characters. I'm
POC myself (not Black) and if I saw some random White character be suddenly turned into my ethnicity I'd probably be just like: "Oh wow, making a
POC character is too hard for you so you'd rather take some existing character and paste
POC unto it because you're too lazy and that's too difficult for you."
Also, are any of these decisions
actually made by POCs? I've always been suspicious of it. I'm 90% sure
POC creators would rather make their own original characters, that's what I do anyway.
Also, while the
intention is
supposed to bring representation, what it just really looks like is that these creators don't really have faith in making original
POC characters at all. It reminds me of the "Black dude dies first" trope.
No. 2080756
>>2080754Samefag, it's basically saying: White characters can have their own stories—but
POC characters can only ever be
copies and can have no story of their own.
Come on.(learn to delete and repost) No. 2080881
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Also The Owl House have their own enby TIF…
Was really Dana wokeness or Disney fault?
No. 2080918
>>2080881Is this supposed to be a principal or something with fucking pronouns on the desk plaque? My fucking sides kekk. The ugly nonbinary flag nails are just the cherry on top.
Say whatever you want about Steven Universe, lord knows almost everyone working on it was a huge cow in their own right, but at the very least I always appreciated them keeping their pandering to a minimum. Even if characters were meant to be nonbinary, they never explicitly said so and no one except the autistic adults following the crewniverse on social media would know. Even Stevonnie had the in-universe of being a fusion of two people, so it kinda made sense when people called her "they" outside of a troon context. This is just so cringe.
No. 2081010
>>2080754I agree with you anon. I'm black and I cannot stand blackwashing characters. I was a big Castlevania fan before the Netflix shows as I got into the series during the Lament of Innocence days and I was never bothered that the games lacked black characters because I understood that the setting took place in ye'old Europe.
I was not fucking with the race change of Annette. I can understand them wanting to make her more of an action girl instead of a damsel and I really enjoyed how they did that for Sypha in the first Netflix show but the race swapping just turned me right off. I had this issue with Isaac as well in the first season, he should've stayed a pale ginger.
I would much rather they just make new original characters who happened to be black. If "Blackette" was just a new character introduced to the show, I would've accepted her with open arms. I mean if I'm not mistaken, isn't Edouard a original character made of the show? If so, clearly they could've made more because while I personally wasn't that invested in him because he was transformed way too fast, at least he is his own character with his own story to tell.
>>2080756>but POC characters can only ever be copies and can have no story of their own.Exactly. I don't understand how these people don't seem to understand. Are black characters only good for getting scraps? Where's the respect? lol
This just sucks because there were some aspects that I really liked of Castlevania Nocturne but it was also full with so much annoying ass pandering. I'm debating if I will watch season 2 because I have a feeling we're gonna get even more pandering BS, especially after reading the interview but I'm still morbidly interested because I love Alucard and I'm curious how they will handle him this second time around.
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>>2080867Also Amphibia have some LGBT canon characters (At least don't feel so pandering).
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>>2081103NOOOOOOOOOOOO SASHEY IS NOT A DIRTY BISLUT SHE IS A PURE LESBIAN HOMOSEXUAL AND WOULD NEVER SUCK COCK OR HAVE SEX WITH AN XY DEFECT SHE MAKES LOVE TO SWEET JUICY VAGINAS AND WOMEN (MEANING ANNE)
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>>2081208According Matt Braley (the show creator) Sasha is Bisexual in the final episode…
(sage your shit) No. 2081219
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>>2081212fuck, I erased that from my mind and totally forgot about it..
>>2081213They become adults later in the show.
No. 2081225
>>2081014AYRT and I understand that having black characters is not out of place because black people were around back then, I just mean that I would've just preferred new characters who happen to be black is all As I said they did this with Edouaward and it was okay. They also kinda did this with Drolta but I personally don't like her aesthetic design because it looks way out of place and modern (her leather outfit).
>North AfricaYeah I agree, it's pretty small-minded to only show them as just black. I would think they might correct this in season 2 but eh…
No. 2081304
>>2080918She's supposed to be an employee of a local History Museum in Luz's town that was managed by an Evil White Male curator who was also apparently a Demon Hunter.
>>2081299It most certainly is, apparently Matt Braly was a big fan of RuPaul's Drag Race, that he had him voice a character that is just him, but as an FBI agent.
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>>2081309Owl house is more like witch hat academia. Both mangaka and Dana have done fanart of each other’s work.
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>>2081342Here’s Dana’s art of Coco from WHA.
No. 2081439
>>2080746It’s just tiring to see that the only “black representation” is always blackwashing a pre-existent white character. And I’m black too. I’m not going to die if I don’t see a black character or a “queer” one, I’d rather have none than simply picking a white character and making it black for no reason.
It always brings out real racists too (look at Ariel) along with those who are genuinely critiquing it.
It’s boring and redundant.
No. 2081623
>>2081439I'm (>>2081010) and nice to see another black fan of Castlevania who's not about this pandering bullshit. I'm the same, I would've much rather there be no black characters than having Annette and Isaac be blackwashed. And you're right how it does way more harm than good by bringing out the actual racists who would've stayed in the closet had they not blackwashed. Let them come out through original creations like how Black Panther did lol.
Blackwashed Annette is just so infuriating because she could've been an original character and have her own story to tell like Edouardo.
No. 2082022
>>2081729Part of what I'm going to say may not be thread appropriate but I just gotta say it. As a black person, can these "niggas" just stop saying that wor. No other race has taken a racial slur and tried to make it slang so it's pathetic and cringe that black people have done this/ Anyway personal grievance aside, I still disagree. Even if the blackwash character is a "headcannon", I don't care, you're still changing the race because you desperately want that character to reflect what you are which is just stupid imo. Just make your own black OCs. I understand the lack of prominent black characters in animated media but still, blackwashing an already established character is just pathetic and it's not surprising why some people side eye or get annoyed by it.
I just can't understand how these black people even get into blackwahsing characters. I was really into Cardcaptor Sakura & Kim Possible growing up and I really liked the main characters in those shows but I never once thought that I would relate more with the characters if they were black. Like can someone here maybe explain the mindset because I just don't get it.
No. 2082031
>>2082022In my humble opinion, that only became a thing because of the Internet. It's a meme. Someone said it once on Tumblr or Twitter or TikTok and people ran with it as a real thing. Doesn't helo that Americans have retarded race wars online 24/7. So they decided to weaponize representation and black/brown/whitewashing in their race wars online. So someone whitewashes a character to piss black/brown people off, then they retaliate with black/brownwashing, then they try to excuse it in some woke representation and relating to a character packaging so no one would be able to tell them it's wrong, or else they're racist and they don't get it. To me, the whole "I need to see a character that looks like me to relate to them!!" thing is disgenuine and people are faking it for Internet points. But it's not far fetched that there is a minority that's genuinely like that who got mixed up with the fakers. It reeks of narcissim to me, "everything has to be about me me me!!1!1!", but it can be understandable in cases with a show that has characters from around the world and from different cultures but a group of viewers can't find a character from their own culture on screen, so they wish for one like all the other groups. But it's not an excuse to change already established characters. And most of the time they change characters from media that doesn't do the different cultures thing to begin with, from worlds with homogeneous people who all look the same or something, or are from a real country that almost has no black people in it at all, like when they do it with anime characters that are supposed to be Japanese. Which is why I think it's just racebait and stubbornness, and can't take it seriously at all. They do it because they know it riles people up and causes retarded infighting, so they can point and say "see! They're racist and I'm better and a
victim!", it's woke trolling basically.
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>>2081309What if instead of producing the owl house, disney had produced a 100% american adaptation of Little Witch Academy directed by Dana Terrace full of gendie shit?
(sage your shit) No. 2082056
>>2082031Ayrt and got ya. This is why I'm thankful that I'm in my 30s and got to grow up as a kid and teen consuming media when Tumblr, Twitter, and TikTok were not things because you just never saw this stuff back in the late 90s and 00s. Even in the early days of DeviantART, most people would just draw black OCs or self-inserts for the animated shows that they were into including myself (I made a black Sailor Scout lol).
Considering how wokeism has been a thing since like early 2010 and has not seemed to die off, your explanation makes sense why these people who I assume are mostly gen z, are engaging in such stupidity. It makes sense that is more of a pissing attention whore game disguised as fake activism for black representation.
No. 2082062
>>2082022The people campaigning for blackwashing or brownwashing characters dont actually care about the character or canon imo, they just want a little power trip and enjoy the feeling of smug satisfaction that they can guilt trip studios into kowtowing to their retarded demands.
Same way flaming hon trannies will purposely walk into a devout Christian bakery, and order a rainbow sponge raspberry jam bleeding neovagina cake with sugarpaste dead fetuses and dildos around it, then sue them for refusing to bake it. It's just another way for mentally ill freaks to get their tingles.
No. 2082171
>>2082062>The people campaigning for blackwashing or brownwashing characters dont actually care about the character or canon imoAyrt and yeah I think you're right. I definitely can see that with Castlevania especially because the franchise has always been pretty niche post Symphony of the Night. I think your assumption about these people caring more about the power trip of thinking that bitching and moaning as a group will get them what they want seems about right. It's totally about their egos thinking they can boss around studios with the threat of trying to cancel them on Twitter and cry racism.
I decided to watch the first few episodes of Nocturne season 2 and "Blackette" is so frustrating for me still because I actually like her design and I like her action scenes and I just wish she was her own character.
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I think Veronica posts these whenever she wants people to bully Mark kek.
No. 2082331
>>2082248He looks like he’s about to
troon out.
No. 2082531
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>>2082496>why are all these adult shows so uglyBecause the creators look like this
No. 2082670
>>2082496I would genuinely prefer minimal effort aqua teen hunger force/South Park type animation over this ugly shit. Why waste time and money animating something so hideous? Nobody will watch this boring shit anyway.
Speaking of adult swim, what shows do they even have anymore? The only ones I can think of that are worth watching are smiling friends and primal. Do people even watch current Rick and Morty and robot chicken?
No. 2082844
>>2082670>>2082511>>2082501I
think the ugly art style is trying (and failing) to copy the old MTV cartoons like Beavis & Butthead, or just generally anything if that nature which came out at the same time, by being completely fucking horrendous looking. The only good thing about adult swim churning out ugly cartoons is that it's not another rick and morty/family guy clone but God I wish they would lean more into like actually nice things to look at, or at least try claymation and give us a break á la Morel Orel
No. 2083075
>>2082793The voice acting is
really weak. The writing, dialog and even the art are a straight Home Movies ripoff. The scenes and shots are so boring.
No. 2083136
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He's shilling merch for his shit cartoon when it's not even the fifth most viewed video on his channel and there hasn't been a second episode in four months.
No. 2083154
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>>2083148the thing about smiling friends is that the creators are actually competent artists, but they’ll intentionally draw in a simple, crude style when it’s funnier (picrel is similar example). on the other hand, these people draw like shit because they simply aren’t competent artists
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Anyone got info on this MTF tranny short film that's supposedly going to air at CalArts?
No. 2083533
>>2083488Nice 1-to-1 rip of pedo Akio Watanabe's style. Derivative swill.
>>2083532His fucking neck, christ.
No. 2083564
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>>2083488>please feel bad for me i'm an autopedophile: the movieDon't tell me this is going to be the new hot button issue and that we're going to hear about how people want to jerk off to themselves as children are the most dehumanized minority in the history of the universe. This man was previously mentioned in the art salt thread in /ot/ and he is an insufferable faggot who thinks men wanting to become little girls is revolutionary
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>>2083488I hate anime so much.
Btw, he was discussed in the MtF thread here in /snow/ but which thread number was that? Need to hate read.
No. 2083729
>>2083488It would of worked if it was some Silence of the Lambs esque horror movie that criticized scrotes who sexualized shoujo that's meant for girls and take it too far (Like that recent news story of male Precure cosplayers who wore those creepy face masks like
>>2083532 meant for fetish play and went to some amusement park to take pictures with children. I think one of them had an ABDL fetish but the amusement park ended up banning cosplayers because of this).
But of course it's some retarded 2deep4u pandering BS
>>2083564 No. 2083897
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>>2053151Blackgryph0n wrote songs for Poppy Playtime 4.
No. 2083941
>>2083904It depends on which showcase it is, his video with the little anime intro might make it eligible for the Character Animation Open Show.
This is the animation intro btw, it's nothing special
https://www.instagram.com/colinarmistead/p/C5997IwL9MJ/ No. 2083948
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>>2083944ayrt, the comments on his IG are all licking his ass, it's ridiculous. Also kek at the person asking them to not befriend lolicon artists when he obviously IS one.
>omggg it's incredible!! it's just like one of my 2000s animeeeees it's so goooood No. 2083964
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>>2083764I don't have the news article but there is a twitter statement and screenshots of the incident in the tweet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/precure/comments/15mttw2/toeis_statement_about_recent_precure_fan_cosplay/ No. 2083976
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>>2083948his justification for not being like the other pedophiles is that he's trans and he understands media literacy. he pissed off a lot of lolicons last year for moralfagging over this.
>omggg it's incredible!! it's just like one of my 2000s animeeeees it's so gooooodkek and there were thousands of other styles he could have taken inspiration from, but he chose akio watanabe, THE lolicon. when i think of 2000s magical girl anime, i think of precure, doremi, tokyo mew mew, shugo chara, and princess tutu, not ero visual novel moeshit.
No. 2083983
>>2083976Those people are probably thinking of Nurse Witch Komugi, Nanoha and other "magical girls for men" shows from the 00's
He should just admit he likes it like the rest instead of trying to sound enlightened or whatever, like he understands the true essence of moe and lolis and therefore is allowed to rip-off Watanabe.
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>>2083976omg a troon obsessing over le 2000s moe shit, how subversive and original. so self-aware, I'm sure he doesn't masturbate and cry over anime girls either!
>>2083964The Precure pervert cosplayer was a troon who lured in kids while the tranny janny on Reddit shut down any misgendering.
No. 2084557
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this looks awful and is such blatant coombait
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>>2084557First it was the Steven Universe beanmouths, then Rick & Morty/Inside Job/whatever this art style is, now everyone is trying to do their own Hazbin/Helluva Boss style I guess
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>>2084648>Choosing Limp Bizkit for the opening song is embarrassing though.Maybe they wanted to be 'ironic'. Not a good way to revamp a franchise. Anyway, I doubt it will be as watchable as old DMC anime.
No. 2084714
>>2084471not to be like that but i honestly think they do not understand that style is actually the work of another human being and their personal way of drawing, they see this style as some sort of mass product like mcdonald's or something and not as art or creative thing made by another person. i honestly think many people view different anime styles and japanese artists like that.
>>2084648>>2084689nu-metal is back, like it or not. limp bizkit might be cringe for people older than 30 but people younger than that actually find it cool.
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>>2084721Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit is a huge anime fan and that’s probably why they used his track.
No. 2084762
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>>2084557feels like im back in early 2010's tumblr, and not in a good way
No. 2084763
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>>2084586Creator of DMC weighs in
No. 2084765
>>2084763Surprised that question didn't
trigger an instant block kek
No. 2084779
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>>2083948It’s copying the style of the artist Watanabe Akio of Nurse Witch Komugi and other ero visual novel games.
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>>2053151Blackgryph0n sent a C&D to a call out account.
No. 2085881
>>2085874Oh, so it's Rick and Morty, but fantasy instead of sci-fi. Yawn.
(I like the backgrounds and stop motion stuff, though, that looks cool)
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>>2085900I mean clamp did the exact same thing with Wish.
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>>2085874>le spunky tomboy female protag who's prob also bisexual/lesbian because the moid that created it has a fetish for queer womenits all just so tiring
No. 2086013
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>>2085914They don't even look alike though.
No. 2086034
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>>2086013not the canon version, but the design aligns with the fujo fanon interpretation of kakyoin, this is how they legitimately see him
No. 2086036
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>>2085894>The Punkcrackerthe creator is a south american zoomer who has absolutely no real knowledge about the 2000s or the alt scene at that time. this is just garbage she read from gay fan-fics written by other zoomers who also have no clue about the 2000s
No. 2086142
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Some info regarding a potential Kickstarter for the Far-fetched pilot.
No. 2086155
>>2085545It's funny you say that about nu-metal because as a millennial in my 30s who did like nu-metal back in the early 00s (and still has nostalgic fondness for it now lol), that was exactly why I liked it. Not necessarily because I thought death metal and black metal were "scary", just that death metal gave me a headache and I didn't really know much about black metal at the time, nu-metal was the middleground of having a pseudo-heavy sound with vocals that didn't hurt my ears lol.
>>2085546Yeah the OG DMC was like a mix of emo and camp/glam (more-so around DMC3 & DMC4). This song feels like it fits the awful reboot a lot better kek
No. 2086158
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>>2085899It's so funny because I just recently discovered Ari last week after seeing her art on Pinterest (i know lol) and thinking it looked really neat and I was totally digging the early 2000s inspired cartoon style only to sooner later find that she's a dumb gendie and then subsequently stumbled upon her in the artist salt thread. What a week lol. But still, it's a shame that she's a gendertard and she put that into her characters
>"Kate" = He/HimFuck off kek.
Anyway I'm not surprised that she got a deal to turn her story into an animated series since her art style just screams "this will look awesome animated" but it's a shame that it's going to be seemingly centered around a topic that's going to age like milk in 5 years when the troon bubble finally pops.
Also putting "punk" in it when the music sounds like pop lol kay. I mean okay fine, maybe it sounds like pop punk and I don't necessarily hate the song but I just can't help but cringe when people think pop punk is on the same level of actual punk rock.
>>2086143I don't think anyone is actually hating the art of it and it's more so the idea behind it since the lead character is a TIF which is going to lead to stupid things that will age horribly.
No. 2086161
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>>2085874from page 63 of the pdf, seems like they're taking a dig at steven universe kek
No. 2086178
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Seems Kevin Lerdiwachagul is going to be a part of the next Creator Clash this year.
No. 2086183
>>2086158Honestly I don’t like judging stuff before it’s fully out but I don’t really understand the hype around this.
This really feels like a typical highschool drama (oh wow so original) and knowing the pattern with gendie’s this shit is definitely gonna get cancelled mid way
No. 2086192
>>2086163It would be real if the character wasn't deluded herself in thinking that she's a guy lol
>>2086179Speaking for myself (ayrt), I just like the art style really. The themes itself, especially presented from a zoomer perspective (no offense) is where the issue comes from because like you accurately pointed out, most of you were in elementary school during this time and didn't really get to truly indulge and immerse yourself in these things at the time.
But to be fair, us millennials did a similar thing with late 80s and 90s stuff even though we were just elementary school during these times where a lot of us were interested in 90s stuff like grunge so I suppose it's just a thing every generation goes through lol.
I think the reason why Y2K revival is hot right now is because of us millennials entering that 20-30 year gap where we are starting to reflect on the things we indulged in during the 2000s as teens and gen z is getting caught up in it because of the vague relation to it.
>>2086183Again, I guarantee it's just the art style people are hyped with. A lot of the comments on this artists posts are adoration for her artstyle. But the gendertards are probably hyped for it as well because the show may very well be behind the lead going through a "gender" journey or some shit lol.
No. 2086201
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>>2086158Notably, she removed the pronouns section in the newer version of Kate’s profile
No. 2086208
>>2086177if it was actually the genuine 2000s, people would've called a he/him gendie that was putting no effort to present as a male an attention whore.
no one hated troons as much as people think, but if you were a troon back then you went all the way, none of that half assed stuff people do now.
No. 2086227
>>2086201So if she's supposed to be this huge confrontational stubborn annoying bitch why is she constantly drawn with a serene smile. This objectively sucks. Also
>she's a third generation chicana>considers herself more American than latinaKek yeah and most actual Latinas wouldn't consider her latina for being a third generation American anyway.
No. 2086228
>>2086201Her character introduction is so lame and written by someone who thinks following the status quo is somehow subversive kekw. There is nothing visually compelling about her that doesn’t tick every single box for current and previous conventional beauty standards, the “righteous and loud” trope is not new nor have parents been up in arms about them since the dark ages in biblethumper communities. The fact that her introduction is pretty much “holy shit your parents are gonna hate her cause shes just
too authentic and badass!!” Is so childish and would turn normal adults off from the entire concept. She also suffers from the classic issues post-tumblr authors have where even the most selfish and lazy character is still a beacon of justice like they project the need to always be seen as politically correct and morally superior unto their characters.
No. 2086301
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>>2086150There’s an official figurine of this drawing but in the original they’re not wearing anything under their kimonos and they’re a lot closer together.
No. 2086449
>>2086177Gendies and pronouns in bio didn't exist in the 2000s either so it's already an inauthentic portrayal. Knowing nothing about this character
>>2086158 >>2086201 and going solely by design, she looks like a normie chick, decently popular leaning towards mean girl, shops at Hollister and Abercrombie, only website she visits is myspace. There's nothing alt or weird girl about her design at all.
No. 2086479
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>>2086201You would think the creator was a moid the way she draws a teenage female character
No. 2086788
>>2086751Yeah I scoped that too. As someone who was a teen in the 00s and had interest in survival horror, you're absolutely right that aside from Resident Evil and Silent Hill, unless you knew where to look, the genre didn't really go past those two as far as relative mainstream attention in that time. Fatal Frame is probably one of the exceptions because I definitely remember that one but the only reason I knew about it was because of the G4 channel lol That's also how I learned about Haunting Ground and but that game was super niche and I remember when I would talk to my friends about that game, they had no idea what I was talking about.
So yeah, there's no real reason why this character should be into survival horror as if it's a widely accessible genre when it just wasn't back in that time, especially in America.
No. 2086955
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There is a new french show called Belfort & Lupin that furries and gays(likely also furfags) have been obsessing over because they ship the 2 dogs. Even the crew and creator(a gay man) have been open about shipping them and drawing them in “gay poses” for the show. Thoughts?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PtVKZxHm5mo No. 2086956
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>>2086955From a background artist
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>>2086958creator’s instagram highlights
No. 2087141
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There's a child in a Pomni cosplay on the TADC wikipedia page, this is completely on purpose right? It actually grosses me out
No. 2087157
>>2087141Sorry for being dumb but what’s the issue just seems like some parent posted their kid in an innocent cosplay?
Unless I’m missing something
No. 2087284
>>2087260Correct, you're a fucking freak.
>>2087274If it's really such an issue to you, go on Wikipedia and delete it. You'll have to pry your talons away from your pearls first, though. And don't forget to write "pedos might wank to it" as the reason, too.
No. 2087289
>>2087284I guess I’m both a pearl clutcher and a freak, kek. It really isn’t a huge deal but I personally wouldn’t want my child to watch a show with a creator that openly rejoices about “corrupting children” and has a head drilling fetish, let alone cosplay a character in it who happens to be heavily sexualized online. But it’s a mascot horror so there’s bound to be children who like it. It’s like when parents used to bring little girls to brony conventions, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it but you need to be extra careful with fandoms mainly comprised of degenerate porn addicted pedo males. Plus if you spend any time on the internet you know that men will leave creepy comments on even the most innocuous photos/videos of children.
Anyway I could easily accuse you of being a “freak” for being so adamant about keeping a little girl’s picture on Wikipedia kek but I prefer to explain myself reasonably
No. 2087300
>>2087289Kek! So delete it! You're allowed to do that, nona, Wikipedia is free to use
and edit. I could not give less of a fuck whether it's on there or not, but you sure seem to give a fuck or two, so why don't you go do something about it?
No. 2087415
>>2087289I'm the anon who posted the picture and I agree, it feels icky to me because it's not something children should be watching at all and the author is a freak who sneaks his fetishes into it
>>2087257This insult is tired af, at worst we're being paranoid but it's not weird to worry about children on the internet especially in fandoms where sexual degenerates are rampant
No. 2087515
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Michael Kovach cheated oh his girlfriend
No. 2087609
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>>2087534>Unloads relationship trouble online>Please respect our privacyWhy do people do this? What happened to just venting in diaries or whatever?
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>>2087515Michael's response.
>>2087609>>2087565My thoughts exactly kek. Why does anyone need to know the details about this? A 'we broke up but still have a working relationship' would've been fine. Strange behavior on both sides.
>>2087670Yes, they're poly.
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(unsaged old milk)
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>>2087515>>2087516Imagine getting cheating on by an ugly neckbeard neanderthal like Kovach.
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New Blackgryph0n allegations
No. 2089138
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I think I'm in the right thread by association? Not very milky yet but Molly Ostertag he/him arc?
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>>2089138inevitable tbh if only for just being able to claim gay couple status
No. 2089935
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Like… what the hell is happening with this show anymore…
No. 2090230
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>>2089138from molly's substack
No. 2090251
>>2090230Remember that episode in
Rick and Morty where Rick has an imprisoned alien in his garage and the alien is forced to see Beth and Jerry's bickering and the alien got so sick of their bickering that he broke himself free just to tell the two that they're a terrible match of a couple and that they should just separate?
Well I'm the alien and Noelle and Molly are Beth and Jerry.
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>>2090251I remember Noelle created the Netflix´s She-Ra reboot…
(sage your shit) No. 2090393
>>2090388Exactly. I don't understand why
nonnie got jumped. Uploading your toddler dressed as Pomni of all characters IS weird even if she was just a flavor of the month hentai waifu, but the goosetranny context of him encouraging the porn while being publicly thrilled at the idea of corrupting minors makes it so much worse.
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I hope this flops hard, also the creator is a really obnoxious faggot who shills this shit no matter what.
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>>2088129They literally look like a combination of the "How could you tell we were polyamorous" and the "90% of Millennial couples look like this" Shrek meme
No. 2090938
>>2069227The character on the furthest left who is jumping, is referred to as Kai in the show. From the two episodes they seem like one of the best players on the team?
>>2069287Maybe design was changed after the fact? The scene where they get the stars is shown from a different perspective.
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>>2090938>Maybe design was changed after the fact? The scene where they get the stars is shown from a different perspective.AYRT, that's probably what happened because the voice actor is black. I can't help to see racist undertones though, TRAs love comparing black women to men.
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>>2089377Why is this fucker so popular?
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>>2092655Kek what are these boobs
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>>2092655does the artist still say the red head is a man?
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>>2089377Blackgryph0n is avoiding pedo allegations by hanging out with Girl Scouts.
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>>2092705>>2092701>>2092706to be fair, no one would ever assume this is meant to be like kakyoin, like all m/m works, this was always just heterosexual oc's with extra steps
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>>2092709I always thought Kate looked like Patti Mayonnaise and Doug Funnie.
No. 2092921
>>2092717Happened to be huge fans of BlackGryph0n without even knowing”
What does that even mean?
No. 2092974
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Another e-celeb twitter artist making an indie animation project. I'll give Kiana more grace because she doesn't have the same pick-me tendancies as vivzie or brujo and is just the standard california tumblrina variant like rebecca sugar or dana terrace
No. 2092982
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James Gunn announced three animated series. My Adventures with Green Lantern, Starfire and DC Super Powers
>“My Adventures with Green Lantern,” will follow high school student Jessica Cruz who has her life upended when, according to an official logline, “a Green Lantern Power Ring falls from the sky” and chooses Cruz “to be its champion.” Things get even worse “when more debris from the Lanterns’ ancient space war arrives – along with their alien foes.” Jake Wyatt is executive producing, and Stephanie Gonzaga is a co-executive producer.
>“DC Super Powers” takes place at the Alliance School for Heroes and focuses on new students Lightning, Flash, Plastic Man, Aquagirl, Green Lantern and Terra who “level up their powers under the supervision of Principal Martian Manhunter, in the hopes of one day graduating and becoming the next generation of Earth’s defenders.” Matt Beans is executive producing, and Michael Chang is a supervising producer.
>Finally, “Starfire” serves as the origin story for the fan favorite title character, perhaps best known as part of the Teen Titans. The show follows her adventures after she uses “an ancient spaceship” she discovers on her home planet of Tamaran to escape her planet and explore the stars. Along the way, she’ll meet “space biker Crush, plant-loving Fern, and the magical Princess Amethyst of Gemworld” and together, they will “uncover the deepest reaches of the DC universe, save Space Dolphins, surf technicolor nebulas, and boldly soar into the unknown.” Josie Campbell is executive producing, and Brianne Drouhard is co-executive producing.https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-dc-updates-the-penguin-season-2-batman-movies-1236318685/hopefully the starfire one isnt crap
No. 2092986
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>>2092982putting crush in this already let me know we're getting a teeny bopper starfire. I'm glad there's no robin/dick involved her personality in and out of comics has just been the over done love triangle with dick, kory and babs. Josie wrote on she-ra and new superman show, i predict the artstyle will be vaguely anime influenced calarts. But I'm so over the edgy deviantart trend taking over animation (hazbin, digital circus) I will take another steven universe-esque show over that.
No. 2093000
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>>2092974Every time I see the magical girl form I just look at it with disgust because it’s such a cluttered design. She needs to reduce the bulk and streamline it so her animators have an easier time. I have no idea how she’s working at Disney if this is the shit she’s pumping out.
No. 2093013
>>2093000the blonde part of the hair is
really bad
No. 2093018
>>2092974I feel this pilot concept relies too much on the "deconstruction" aspect as its pull. Subverting magical girl tropes isn't always bad, but basing your whole show around it, to the point where it's the title, just seems uninspired.
Indies are supposed to be the last hope for the crumbling western animation industry, but it's been showing that a lot of industry artists aren't very creative storytellers.
No. 2093032
>>2092974Kiana has already done work professionally and doesn't seem to be as bad as some of the other e-artists. (I like her Jessie x Delia fanarts sue me).
I'll be checking this out.
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>>2093033I feel like we need an indie animator bingo card because main oc is her self-insert
No. 2093038
>>2093018Yeah, if there's no real hook other than 'hey audience, imagine if a magical girl didn't want to be a magical girl? how wild!', there's nothing to really get invested in unless you
really like that concept or other surface elements like the aesthetics/character design. I know it's just a promo image and the only information it really gives is the ironic(?) anime-styled title, so I probably shouldn't be judging it so hard specifically, but this is a problem with a lot of indie projects– they're very shallow and might work for a short, but they've got nowhere to go beyond that.
No. 2093044
>>2093006>North Americans always fuck it up one way or anotherIts because of irony poisoning. They're either too scared to be passionate in liking magical girls or just outright hate it.
The same thing happens when they make Visual Novels. They never bother to make a good story and instead rely on 'le quirky meta humor ecksdee' which has zero staying power.
this post explains it better than I can
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>>2089377James Thomas, a producer of Billie Bust Up, initiated a fight accusing Destiny a liar.
That he doesn’t believe her allegation that Blackgryph0n sent her nude photos when she was 13.
He started a fight and then nuked his account.
Blackgryph0n is one of the lead characters in the game Billie Bust Up.
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>>2093111I think Magical girls love interest is a gendie, so expecting a cancer Fandom
No. 2093139
>>2093123>age: 16these girls look 8
>favorite manga moon sailorffs what happened to creative parodies
No. 2093151
>>2093062Well, in her case, Kiana Mai has a habit of self inserting in her lesbian ships with Jessie from Team Rocket, and pushing Jessie x Ash's cardboard cut out mum she projects on.
I would not be surprised if this character is her self insert too.
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>>2092974>>2093123>True love interest is her shy enby black best friend>Enemy is flamboyant blonde boy in love with herThe writing for Zira better deliver because this feels like a ValiDate Keith situation waiting to happen
No. 2093207
>>2093151Reminds me of Dana self inserting with luz on owl House. Atp it's inevitable in animation. I hope kiana's fandom is equally milky and entertaining
>>2093139I kinda prefer the cutesy moe look over the coomer y2k look like
>>2092700. But miraculous has the best balance between the two for character designs
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>>2093230>gendiephobicI’ve seen those types of fights before, people would go straight to calling it racist and homophobic. I think Kiana’s going for the “nonbinary lesbian” angle, she still calls the enby a girl so the she/they is throwing a pitiful bone to gendies. I wouldn’t even be surprised if everyone forgot she was a gendie kek (unless gendies catch on and make passive aggressive reminder psas)
No. 2093261
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>>2093251>A black magical girl story integrating black culture ala Boondocks or Proud FamilyNot judging her for it, but she doesn’t really come off as someone immersed/interested in black culture(she even admitted it herself in the past and I doubt that’s changed much since). If she attempted it would probably be pretty shallow. Though despite being closer to her japanese side and consooming japanese media, her big project is a magical girl parody, so she’s just creatively bankrupt no matter what kek.
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>>2093237>>2093230>>2093210I can definitely see a situation similar to as what happened to hunder from the owl house, where he becomes the most popular paired character, mostly because he's the only attractive young male, the main demographics who will be most vocally upset by this will likely be troons
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>>2092974I feel a more interesting take on the premise of “magical girl who’s lost her passion” would be to make her an adult. Resonates more as a metaphor, way more potential for intriguing topics than a grumpy teenager, and deviates from japanese media’s obsession with youth. Plus we wouldn’t have to see so much owl house bobblehead-looking kids. I’m not sure why Kiana didn’t make them all adults, considering her obsession with adult women yuri (she even posted half naked thirst trap art of the teacher character). Is her intention to get picked up by a company targeting kids..? Hard to imagine indie fans watching this.
Anyway, I pray the creepy /co/omers ignore this.
No. 2093384
>>2092974>>2093123>>2093198The enby is ugly, that's the first problem. Most normal people don't ship an ugly character with a cute one. I've seen some of her work on this project already and people already ship the main character with the cute blond rival. The show is definitely not going to be for kids, the big villain here
>>2093357 says shit like "serving cunt" on the regular.
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Why are western animators infactuated in ''deconstructing'' the mahou shoujo genre in a very cringe self aware ironic way? this has been done before. I dont like bee and puppycat but it was at least genuine and it didnt feel like it was shitting on the genre it was inspired by.
No. 2093408
>>2093261>He has that natural rhythm and dancing abilityUnrelated but this stuff annoys me. She's overemphasizing the virtue of a group she's doesn't feel part of and pretending they have some inherent purity or attribute that the groups shes belongs to don't. It's the exact same reasoning that bigots use but because you're flattering someone it's supposed to be okay.
I guarantee the show will not be like The Boondocks because she has already resorted to magical thinking when it comes to black people.
There's a good essay where Bertrand Russel talks about the "virtue" of the oppressed.
>She was delicate and dainty, she had a bloom which would be rubbed off by contact with the rough world, she had ideals which might be dimmed by contact with wickedness; like the Celts and the Slavs and the noble savage, but to an even greater degree, she enjoyed a spiritual nature, which made her the superior of man but unfitted her for business or politics or the control of her own fortune. No. 2093427
>>2093407Kiana pushed Delia Ketchum x Jessie so hard everywhere it became annoying, and tried to make that ship that NOBODY DRAWS BUT HER win a tumblr poll about popular gay ships against Miles Edgeworth x Phoenix Wright and somehow won because she kept pushing her 100k+ followers to vote. That ship would have NOT won against a long standing popular MLM ship that has decades of fandom content in any circumstances.
I'm not even an Ace Attorney fan but I found this so fucking annoying.
No. 2093511
>>2093384Maybe if the enby got cuter clothes, she could more nice ship appeal with MC. Her outfit suits her character but it's so bland it makes her less shippable than blonde boy imo, and she is already disadvantaged in fandom shipping by being a black girl.
I was expecting this to be aimed at children judging from the art style ngl.
No. 2093677
>>2093521Yeahhh while I don’t doubt the Mc x best friend would have fans bc it’s a popular troupe in anime but god enemies to lovers is also a popular troupe.
Like im sorry but she setted up the best friend character for failure when the antagonist is a flamboyant villain.
I can already imagine the posts being like “ERMMM WHYYYY IS THIS FANDOM SOOO RACISM”
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>>2093037Harmless fun.
>>2093198>>2093230It'd be so evil to just get in the fandom and ship him with her.
She could have just made him gay with his own boyfriend crush or whatever kek.>>2093400>>2093430I'm so fucking tired of deconstructions and reimaginings. If it isn't moids misunderstanding the purpose of magical girls (literally frilly female superheroes) it's insecure women who have their brain poisoned by the earlier. Don't like frilly girly outfits? Simple, just don't design them that way.
No. 2093957
>>2093792How many sequel does Shrek need? I'm not going to watch this.
>>2093400>''deconstructing'' the mahou shoujo genreWhy are they so obsessed with it? It's been done time and again in Japan - the rest of the world really has nothing new to add.
Why don't you blockheads 'deconstruct' something else, like idol anime?
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>>2094058I kept forgetting these girls are supposed to be in high school. It’s weird seeing the doremi designs and they’re saying “fuck”. Like nonnas said it would be better if they were adults. Precure, madoka and sailor moon have magical girl adult characters.
No. 2094086
>>2094058The friend geeking out over magical girls is a bit of a turn off for me, though I’m not a fan of fanboy/fangirl characters in general, I dislike meta humor where it’s characters referencing tropes. The fangirling turns me off from the ship too. The one thing that could make me interested in her is her becoming a magical girl herself and her personality taking a turn as she learns how tough it really is.
I would’ve toned down the fangirlism significantly, only hint at her love for magical girls through visual clues like the book, and just make her a typical introverted character at the start, who despite her timid exterior displays some of the qualities of a brave all-loving magical girl- like the protag before she lost her passion. The pilot does kinda do this, but her character feels bogged down by nailing it into your head that she’s a magical girl fan.
No. 2094108
>>2094058Aika's voice is terrible. Everyone here looks like 10 year olds, not high schoolers. The beanmouth is egregious. I can't take anything seriously because they act way younger than what they're supposed to be too, and the stakes are weenie hut junior levels. The enby friendship thing is terribly paced and retarded, and makes the pushing for romance even more nonsensical. Fish out of water-school trope is boring and busted.
>"Time to wish upon a star!" Again, how the hell is this supposed to be
>blatantly mentioning she's a black magical girlWhy does this need to be called upon?
I think the only clever thing was the detransformation, which goes well with the theme of her not wanting the role.
It's obvious this is meant for adults who haven't grown up and made friends, and idpol obsessed teens
No. 2094156
>>2094130Kek you’re so right we need to make her a
terf mascot.
No. 2094212
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>>2094058I am so tired of these mediocre, copy-pasted cringe pilots. Say whatever about Vivzie but she managed to make something unique. Meanwhile this thing looks like a rejected pilot from Disney but add swearing for extra edgy points. When is someone going to come up with something actually original for once? i swear i have heard those lame ass jokes 10 times before. Also none of the characters come off as human, the nerdy enby autist is a mess. She sometimes acts cold and dystant, then shes all shy and weird, but then shes self aware and confident. Absolutely shitty writing, i can tell this weeb watched like 2 anime and then copy pasted the tropes without understanding them.
No. 2094215
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>>2094213It pisses me off that it does the same thing every modern western cartoons does, it shouts things instead of letting the viewer understand how the character feels through the composition and emotions of the characters. Having the enby go from stoic like the start to more energetic and fangirly after she learns Aika is a magical girl would have been miles better than her just going ''gasp AND ANOTHER GASP SQUEEE'' like a retard. Japan can make stuff inspired from the west without making a mockery of the concept, so i dont know why weaboos cant do the same.
No. 2094227
>>2094167Wow that sounds real cute actually, I can totally see that happening. Either way enby x MC is not happening to the scale the creator would want.
Random tinfoil, I think the MC brutally bashing the villain's shins in with a lead pipe is not just for the characters and plot. It might be an attempt by the creator to discourage shipping the MC and villain. Shipping arguments will consist of "Why are you shipping the villain with the MC? It's a physically
abusive relationship!" or something like that. I think the MC beating the shit out of the villain will happen a lot more in the series and it'll fuel fandom discourse.
Honestly before the animatic came out I thought that nonnies were being too harsh on the show, but now I can see the irony poisoning very clearly.
>>2094156I want a magical girl
terf show so bad right now.
No. 2094244
>>2094058i only skimmed through the video and focused on visuals so i didn't pay attention to the dialogue, so i'll trust nonas on what they said about the swearing. i feel this would have more mass appeal if it was more all-ages/pg, but internet animators are fixated on making everything "adult" because hurr durr i'm grown now. animation isn't exclusively for kids, but if a concept can work perfectly fine without being aged up, why change it?
the best friend is boring and i know the "romance" will be bland as fuck. i'll trust the fandom, if it gets to exist, on making better content for mc x antagonist.
No. 2094275
>>2094272Look at the state of western animation overall. Everything is either remakes or boring, safe stuff for kiddies. There is no creativity left. Now also add the fact that to make a succesful indie animation you need an audience. You think weebs deep into the gendie cult want something earnest and fun? fuck no, they want pandering, pandering, pandering. They want pronouns, trannies, token
poc/neurodivergent characters, they want shipping and an endless amount of meta jokes so they can make meymeys about it. The humor of her pilot reminds of the crappy one liners they add at the start of every crappy disney/pixer trailer.
No. 2094299
>>2094215>Japan can make stuff inspired from the west without making a mockery of the concept, so i dont know why weaboos cant do the same.You know how back in the day when anime wasn't in the public sphere and people thought it was just schoolgirls being molested by tentacles and being an anime fan made you a bully target?
Well nowadays that pretty much got UNO reversed and it seems like people love anime more than filthy Western cartoons.
Plus, lots of these "anime-insipred" Western cartoonists grew up watching anime-but-not-actually Avatar and want
their show to be the new Avatar. The problem is that
everybody also wants to be or already is the new Avatar (HGS, Castlevania, My Adventures with Superman, Voltron—fuck, even
Steven Universe if you squint really tight).
That's the reason it looks so inauthentic—it's already been done.
No. 2094304
>>2094058Just got finished watching it, i thought it pretty great.
The enby was kinda annoying but didn't make me wanna shoot my brains out.
And while i don't wanna be too judgemental with the artstyle but i'm shocked these characters are supposed to be highschool aged i thought they were middle schoolers.
Eclipse is best boy! and i will ship him with aika out of spite.
No. 2094326
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>>2094296Western boku no pico.
No. 2094361
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>>2094344It’s hiding his true power level
No. 2094394
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Damn, I haven’t seen LoK past the first season (dropped mid-way when it was releasing) but with picrel, and that clip with Korra’s uncle people shared around, I see why people call the treatment of her “torture porn”. It seems like Bryke was trying to make the show darker and edgier but they just come off as creeps.
I find it so laughable they’re trying to turn Avatar into a huge franchise too when every attempt to repeat or ride that success has been shit or controversial.
No. 2094402
>>2094037Never EVER add a white male character to a story where a non white female character is supposed to be the main character. Especially if she’s a lesbian. Did we not watch TOH? No matter how little he does in the story the fandom of fujos, yumes and pickmes will somehow make it his show. It’s to the point where it’s not even a thing about misogyny anymore, you KNOW this will happen and you’re setting up your “
POC” or LGBT female characters to be shoved to the side in favor of the fandoms golden boy. She made him blonde, sympathetic, funny and questionably evil/future edgy. She wants the fandom to ship her self insert and the white teenager of her dreams and she’s gonna play into it and shove aside the enby. Mark my words.
No. 2094412
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>>2094058>pretty pretty please i don't want to be a magical girl but it's simply eclipse (servant of darkness)KEEEEEEEEK It’s already happening
No. 2094424
>>2094402And Kiana is already drawing fun art of him like this
>>2093357 it's already over. She should've made him black too, why not. Idk why she inserted a twinky blonde boy (instant shipping fodder) into her show featuring two black girls. I hate how so many modern cartoon creators seem to create characters with shipping in mind in the first place when the story isn't even a romance. I blame Rebecca Sugar.
No. 2094428
>>2093018>>2093400Is the pilot even a deconstruction at all? Has Kiana said it's a deconstruction?
>>2093021Like anon said, this is a reused trope too.
No. 2094450
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>>2094299>lots of these "anime-insipred" Western cartoonists grew up watching anime-but-not-actually Avatar and want their show to be the new Avatar.What's crazy is that the creator is capable of doing anime art style very well and making better designs but chose not to. This was her drawing of the MC's in alien stage's style. It's still in the pilot stages so hopefully she switches the art style to look less owl-house esque. I tinfoil the art style choice is to get it picked up by disney.
No. 2094452
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>>2094439basically picrel
No. 2094471
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>>2094167I'm just projecting my tastes, but they should've been aged up and given non-chibi proportions so I can ship the blonde guy with the evil lady. The hinted relationship between DeVoid and the lonely lesbian teacher sounds boring, sorry gays.
No. 2094486
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>>2094471subordinate male minion and his evil female boss, who has complete control over him, is a top-tier trope
No. 2094492
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>>2094058>Zira is everything Aika wants to be>Aika is everything Zira wants beI’m starting to get it. I’m not into shipping owl house kids but if Kiana can manage to stick the landing and make an engaging story with them, I’ll apologize for posting
>>2093198 kek.
I assume she’s planning something big for Zira, there’s gotta be a reason she’s in the center of the promotional art/thumbnail other than gay pandering. It could just be her becoming a magical girl, which is pretty obvious with the moon symbolism and starting out as a total loser, meaning a “glow-up” is inevitable. But there’s gotta be some interesting development from that to really sell me, not just her geeking out over achieving her dream.
No. 2094497
>>2094492Gut feeling is telling me Zira may turn into a magical girl and either she's going to do it through Shady means and may turn morally ambiguous, may not see that's all its cracked up to be or she and Aika may butt heads because Zira may do a bit
too well as a magical girl and it may lead Aika internalizing stuff or them having different approaches to the experience overall. I do feel she's being set up as a weebier nerdier version of Bunny/ Usagi- The SM reference is a tad on the nose other then referencing babies first Mahou Shojo
No. 2094504
If Kiana wants to dissuade people from shipping the white guy with any of the girls the best thing she can do is give him a yaoibait ship but even in that scenario people still won't care about the lesbian pairing kek.
>>2094497Zira becoming a magical girl is a given unless Kiana really wants to keep her character boring. If this series goes anywhere I hope she gets some sort of twist, she arguably fits easily into a Homura role. Her going through some morally corrupt arc and having Aika "save" her and realizing she loves being a magical girl through this would be an easy plot to write and a good way to move past the sardonic tone of the series.
No. 2094510
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>>2094505>look him upHe looks like a TIF self insert
No. 2094549
>>2094450Damn, this is cute as hell and hope the show looks more like this if
>>2094520 is wrong and it gets picked up by someone. I honestly liked the pilot and I think a theoretical show would be even better if it either leaned into the comedy or was more earnest at the outset. The current hybrid kinda creates a dissonance imo. My only real issue is the childish TOH/SU-ish art style like other anons said, but the YT description says this is just supposed to be a piece for her portfolio, so I assume she did it for the sake of not pouring a shitton of time into something she's not interested in developing atm. Her Bluesky says she's a storyboard artist and the pilot as it is is a good showcase of that by itself.
No. 2094574
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>>2093198I do expect some ValiDate Keith situation. What do you expect when the character is already so annoying?
>>2093943>She could have just made him gay with his own boyfriend crush or whatever kek.>MFW there would be tons of Youtubers ranting about stopping to make gay villains because homophobia and shit. No. 2094576
>>2094549She has done story boarding work for a while. If I remember correctly at one point she did work for big city greens so that may explain the disinterest in pitching to Disney
>>2094520 mentioned. It has a tumblr-y atmosphere to it all and all but it is quite cute. It’s a nice portfolio piece.
No. 2094633
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>>2094402Apparently he’s wasian all along hahaha what the hell kek, I guess it makes sense by anime logic or if he bleached his hair.
No. 2094641
>>2094058I actually rather liked it, though Aika absolutely does not look like a high-schooler, especially in that outfit. Her magical girl one is much nicer, the nerdy girl is cute too, though ECLIPSE SERVANT OF DARKNESS is absolutely a high point.
I think the show could be fun if they polish it a bit and unbeanmouth the style.
No. 2094678
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>>2094597Never would have expected this fancomic to be brought up here.
To be fair, I don't think it would have ever been made if he was just some non-butt-monkey white blonde guy. IIRC the creator specifically linked clips where he's getting bullied for context for readers who haven't watched the show.
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>>2094683It's meant to be
>>2094685yes
No. 2094690
>>2094505there was an example, the ship between the villain Hordak and Entrapdak was actually incredibly popular and better received than noelle's
toxic self-insert ship
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>>2094723>30>looks like thisThe state of american weeb artists
No. 2094741
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>>2094058>the one “fuck”Who is this for? Why are they in high school but look like toddlers? Why couldn’t this take place in college instead so people dont feel weird shipping teenagers who look 5?
No. 2094771
>>2094597>>2094690Okay I'll use another example then
In the Arcane fandom, most people care about the female characters. People like Viktor the pretty white boy too but more people care about Caitlyn, Vi, and Jinx than him. Caitvi is much more popular than Jayvik and Timebomb.
No. 2094925
>>2094769To be fair, Sarah was introduced very late to show and we hardly know about her character other than "Wirt has a crush on her".
The crossover ship with Wirt and Dipper seems less of a "fandom doesn't care about shipping a White boy with a Black girl" thing and more "fandom will be more invested in a ship where
both characters have substantial characterization (even if they have never met)".
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>>2094769>Most fangirls never ship the fan favorite white boy with a black girlNot true.
No. 2094934
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>>2094058Them saying fuck threw me off since everything else is clearly framed like the most basic of basic kids cartoons
Other than that it was boring as fuck, it’s basically just an elongated version of tumblr text posts I saw a decade ago.
No. 2094941
>>2094058I absolutely do not understand why this isn’t a kids/teens show, i actually thought this was kind of cute. God i cannot stand the 2edgy4u meta shit anymore. Ever since DDLC came out every thing has been like this
>>2094402God yeah, I also notice that in a way she wrote him to be sort of pathetic. He will probably get beat up a lot by the main female characters, fangirls will feel bad and treat him like sad dog, angst gets written because he’s kind of edgy guy blah blah. I don’t care much if there’s a male character the straight women who watch whatever show gravitate towards, but it gets sooo annoying when said character is obviously written in
that kind of way. It was funny watching it fall right on its face with jax from the tranny show, TADC, though kek
No. 2094997
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>>2094785She is definitely just going to pander to the fandom. Hopefully this means if people complain enough she'll change the chibi-esque artstyle
No. 2095105
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>>2094928The ship definitely exists but it's not as popular as Danny and the middle aged incel.
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Of course his social media is all about TransRights too.
No. 2095215
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Looks like it’s happening, prepare a long post about ppl liking Eclipse
No. 2095364
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>>2094769> Most fangirls never ship the fan favorite white boy with a black girlPic rel is the closest thing I can think of, their dynamic reminds me a bit of Aika and Eclipse. I was getting flashbacks
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>>2095391
> On those lines, the psychiatrist Saito Tamaki writes that otaku are attracted to characters with higher levels of fictionality, i.e. more unrealistic. Otaku don't have to see lolis as being a representation of actual children
sure bud. japanese moids will literally pretend that drawn cp is just actually a another totally nonpedophiliac form of media forgot to sage
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>>2095391
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>>2095215If Kiana is smart enough, she will accept that fans have their choice in choose their fav and keep it like that. But IIRC she or someone else announced this like "in a world full of WHITE magical heroes" (When most of magical girls are Japanese), so I'm crossing my fingers she doesn't go to the Validate me route.
No. 2095432
>>2095425No, she obviously did this on purpose and has a white man fetish. She wants a little pathetic meow meow blond white husbando. Any spite she has for white moids is basically just "reeeee my crush didn't pick meeee". What a lot of people don't get is that the mindset behind this
>"in a world full of WHITE magical heroes" (When most of magical girls are Japanese),isn't about hatred for white (or Japanese) people, it's the relatively innocuous desire for inclusion mixed in with anger and pettiness, because these nerdy minority women have been shown (or taught) that being demure and shy about it just gets them ignored and passive-aggressively excluded, but being the "angry minority" opens doors, because then all the opportunistic white liberals see an opportunity to loudly prove that they're "one of the good ones".
It's not "just how black and brown people are" that so many of them follow this same playbook and use the exact same talking points over and over again, it's like a fucking racket. She's clearly an actual weeb, she knows how to draw anime style art faithfully, she knows they're Asian. The actual issue here is that saying "In a world full of
Asian magical heroes" does absolutely nothing to boost her work within current burger racial discourse. She has to bring up white people specifically to draw attention. Baiting certain kinds of racists and dredging up the same "discourse" that's been happening ever since the gamergate shit is basically just part of marketing now.
No. 2095435
>>2095143other people can't relate to black people
>>2095111i hate this trend, i'd rather not see any relationships at all
No. 2095475
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>>2095435It's more that they treat black people, especially black women as if they are special angels, they are either written to be or hc'd as 'perfect' in every conceivable way and positioned as the front lines fighting against evil white Republicans. They are portrayed as 'badass', smart, stoic and tough, but in doing this they also become uninteresting characters and fandomtards don't realize just how dehumanizing these portrayals can be
No. 2095481
>>2095215>>2094037>>2093198To be honest I don't care about the politics of fan favourite characters or who the audience wants to fuck the most etc, but it's amusing how fandom will fetishize
any skinny male character even if he's ugly as shit. This guy looks like a flaming fag who either has dwarfism or is literally 10 years old, how does that give sexy sadboy vibes?
No. 2095483
>>2095478from my own personal experiences with wokie spaces, you're right, the vast majority of these women tend to be straight. their lesbianism is shallow friendship with another socially awkward woman. If a single moid ever showed them any attention, they'd likely go for him but still identify as queer
>>2095481mentally stunted womanchildren
No. 2095570
>>2095425I don't care about this show so I'm not watching it, but I feel like if that's the route she wanted to take, she'd get a lot farther if she pointed out that it's light SKINNED people who get all the visibility, rather than white people. Japanese people have been sperging out recently about having their identities erased by people redrawing Japanese characters as black, but they're just as colonizer-esque as white people. I don't mean to racebait, it's just basic history. East asians, while they do face discrimination in the west, discriminate against other races HEAVILY in their home nation, especially darker races. Albeit it's more of a curiosity for the average person, but they are actually restricted from doing several things within those countries, even if they were to move there, such as going into certain businesses that don't allow foreigners or trying to rent an apartment or open a bank account, a lot of places will simply deny you on the basis of not being part of the homogenized population.
East asians are also seen as the de facto asians in the west, to the point that people often forget that people from places like India or Iraq are asians too. I understand she's more in touch with her Japanese side, but instead of singling out white people for the millionth time, if you're making a show with a trope that popularized itself in Japan, don't look away from all these facts just because white people are the easiest race to dog on without looking bad. Japan very intentionally swept their crimes under the rug by trying to look cute and innocent with shit like Hello Kitty.
No. 2095724
>>2095475>That fucking dialogueIs this supposed to pander to gurls like me (
POC woman)?? Because I'm not very endeared.
No. 2095797
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Tiana animated series has been cancelled.
No. 2095859
>>2095797It's actually insane how mistreated Tiana and her movie are.
>she's a frog for 90% of her movie>the only princess movie to not have any additional stories (no sequel, no live action, no tv show, no mobile app skin)>her theme park ride is just a reskin of a much more famous rideEven as a kid, I always felt that Disney never wanted to make a black princess movie. The vibe of the movie feels like "Here's your princess, black people. Now shut up about it."
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>>2095541She also went out with Lopoddity back when she was really into the MLP:FiM fandom.
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PPG live action reboot (continuation?) leaked
No. 2096138
>>2096134The CG is PURE ASS. And is Mojo Jojo a human?
Also, making the rough, angry tomboy a Black woman. Hmmmmmm.
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>>2096134I find it interesting how there's every few years an attempt to reboot the Powerpuff girls and it never works because they can never get the charm of the original series.
Maybe they should just remaster the original or just turn them into merch mascots.
No. 2096213
>>2095797This is why people defending the racebending of princesses on live actions can eat shit. Disney does it only for controversial publicity and to deflect criticism from their mediocre adaptations, confident that they can always go back to the default white characters if they need to pander to conservatives. Libs are too stupid to realize Disney doesn't give a single fuck about their original black characters (like Tiana and Finn from Star Wars), but keep eating up the crumbs the retarded CEO throws at them. This was a chance to actually give the spotlight to a cool black princess that everyone likes yet they fumbled it.
Another reason for it could be the fact Disney is trying really hard to bury Facilier and all the related voodoo stuff from the movie, as seen in the redesign of Splash Mountain
No. 2096216
>>2096138>making the tomboy a black lesbiantired of seeing tomboys be painted as lesbians in modern reboots (somehow Toph is the only one that hasnt fallen into this, for all the shit Korra did wrong).
Also sick of seeing black women be put in masculine roles, yet again
No. 2096237
>>2096216I know some libfems are going to respond with
>'what's wrong with black women being shown as tough and badass?' the issue is that it only seems to happen to black women for some reason. why do liberal white women(this was written by diablo cody) appear to have more regressive stereotypes about black women than conservatives?
No. 2096247
>>2096134>Like that cartoon that whitewashed usThis kind of humor in these remakes really feel like a psyop at this point, like they’re intentionally creating backlash until eventually everyone gets so sick of these remakes and studios can cast only white actors without any pushback again. Like
>>2096213 said, these companies couldn’t give less of a fuck about their actual non-white leads and will happily pretend to care about diversity while letting the actors take all the blowback.
No. 2096289
>>2096134childhood classic remade to be cynical and "adult"? how daring, how original
>>2096152>When will millenial humour in media come to an end?i'm afraid it's only the start
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The video game Billie Bust Up released a 30 page Google document to prove Blackgryph0n isn’t a Groomer and never send nude photos to anyone.
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1pEgBj81coWUbVC_ImTBzF_wSLLL3Wt5SNfpkC2xRSr4/mobilebasic No. 2096336
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>>2096081AYRT and actually Brave got slightly better treatment. When I said mobile app skin, I'm referring to picrel. Tiana didn't even get that.
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>>2096358Going over great, apparently.
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>>2096359Of all the names they could've picked…
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>>2094058Why are indie animators allergic to making lanky, tall and angular designs? so tired of seeing the same safe bean blobs. It makes me appreciate Motorcity and Venture Bros more.
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>>2096453Why did they turn Elvis into a eunuch.
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>>2096334They have also released a SFW version on the privet Billie Bust Up discord server full of minors so the kids can read the “evidence” they have provided.
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>>2096362The Billie Bust Up document claims Blackgryph0n says he is Ace.
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>>2093000Dress is an obvious ripoff of Madoka's
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>>2094769Necro but internet went crazy for Starboy/Asha for some time.
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>>2096953AYRT Whenever I watched Brave as a kid, I always stopped the movie when Merida spliced the arrow on the target with her own. Child me thought that was kino but the cursed bear prince was a retarded plot point.
>>2096979Ruined by a moid. That's why it was shit.
>I used to accidentally call her mierda No. 2097269
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>>2096790They have now flipped!
“I no longer believe that Katie ruined my relationship”
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>>2097374It really feels that way.
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>>2090607She is voicing a character in the game Billie Bust Up too. Strangely enough.
>>2097584All I can find about it says it’s coming out this year.
This sounds like ass. It’s like they picked a bunch of buzzwords out of a top hat.
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Kiana got interest from some major studios for IDWTBAMG and she’s still treading lightly but looks like there is now a non-zero chance of this becoming a show
No. 2097685
>>2097659This is gonna be more boring indie animation slop. I got recommended the pilot hours after it was uploaded and I could not for the life of me withstand the first minute.
I have no idea how people seek out for this uninspiring, “representation pushing” kid friendly looking shows that are so obviously inspired by anime while trying to be cartoons.
We can’t have anything remotely artistically unique or groundbreaking, it’s always the same thing that sells to the wide audience who consists of qweer weebs who cling onto this identity like the last Coca Cola in a desert.
Maybe it’s me and my niche preferences in animation but I would love if the animation scene pivoted into more creative ideas.
Vivzie pop may have dog shit writing and cling onto trends as well but by god her art style is miles more interesting than the round bean smiled blobs we are getting on the mainstream.
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>>2096627The voice of Rarity from My Little Pony weighs in on the Blackgryph0n controversy. She likes Blackgryph0n.
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>>2097935He’s convinced so many people that he’s just some bullied autistic boy.
Michelle Creber (the voice actor of Apple Bloom) Once defended him and called him a "incredibly brilliant but brilliant autistic bean".
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>>2098633I've kept up with all this drama even though I don't give a shit about the fandom and have never interacted with it.
It's clear he groomed her, but whatever she claims he didn't. The bigger thing is he's clearly a pedophilic faggot who was trying this with many other little girls while also making disgusting songs. Also he types like a sex pest
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>>2072030How did her art get uglier the more she trooned out?
This is wild.
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>>2071882>>2071872You can tell the lesbianism was just a phase for her wife and that's why she desperately trooned out ("look I'm male now, we don't have to seperate after all!"), only to third wheel when her wife got a moid to dick her.
Tragic case really.
Should also shut up all the incels who pretend only men can fall
victim to BPD partners manipulating them.
No. 2098981
>>2086036Third world latinx skinwalking as american teenagers of the early 2000s is so deeply uncanny to me. What causes this? Like they get some of the surface level stuff right but then there's this really weird and creepy uncanny disconnect where things seem really off and you realize this was made by some 15 year old third worlder sitting in guatemala or something.
Why are they skinwalking suburban millennial first worlders instead of making something that's actually relevant to their lives and culture?
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Thoughts on Glitch's new upcoming animated pilot? I honestly have no hope for this since it's Glitch productions after all and judging by the art style, it's really ugly to look at.
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>>2098981i'm on a similar position as ari (zoomer on latin america) so i don't think it's as bad as you make it seem. usa and its media make it seem like it's the center of the world so i don't think it's so outrageous for someone to want a slice of the pie and get inspired by all the american media they've had pushed down their throat since youth. would you feel the same if it was an american making a show set on japan? or a japanese person writing an ameriboo manga?
>>2098983>show name is a pun on the red light districthmm. their shows look like shit anyway, there's something uncanny about md/tadc and their detailed textures on simple models.
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>>2099029I just find it creepy and weird when third world latinx zoomers try to larp as suburban millennial first worlders and faking nostalgia for stuff they never experienced.
Weebs pretending to be japanese have been mocked endlessly for the last 20 years too, so it's not like these types are highly regarded.
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>>2099063I agree on everything you said,GooseTroon hyping it up is already a red flag. I hate him and Glitch so much.
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>>2099063Samefag but just compare the female character to the males in the background, and on top of all that, something about her expression feels weird.
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>>2098981>>2099103I don't understand how this is even a question. things were falling apart in the 90's for our countries, the downfall of the soviet union and the decline of socialism severely impacted our economies. we faced ethnic and civil conflicts, frequent terrorism and increasing inequality. my childhood was spent under a failing military dictatorship. the only glimpse I had of a better world came from american media. despite our resentment towards america for what it did to our countries, your media was still something we coveted
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>>2099534>another female character whose design just screams "please draw porn of me"no hope for women, no hope for western animation
>>2098983>"It's like nothing you've ever seen before">looks at description>feels like bargain bin Vivzie slop>its creator worked on Helluva Boss No. 2099617
>>2099591And everyone in the scene already hyping it up like paid shills (they probably are), goddamn we're cooked, "indie animation is the future" my ass. Total Glitch Productions Bankruptcy, they're a cancer, and I wouldn't be surprised if they go belly-up in a few years for some controversy that's too large to gloss over. Not like there's anyone who'd deserve it more than these misogynistic, astroturfing sellouts. They definitely house some sex pests in there, I bet.
>>2099592Fuck, you're right. That's why it felt off. This is disgusting, whoever was involved in making this should be thrown into an oubliette. Porn ruins everything
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>>2099534>>2099592I literally just moved the pupils and added blush. She's so quirky right guys???
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>>2099715Apparently he works/used to work for Vivziepop.
God, the indie animation scene's more incestuous than the Habsburgs, it always circles back to the same few people, and always to the already established ones, and those riding their coattails, and if you're one of these lucky folks favored by this rampant nepotism, congratulations! You'll get picked up no matter how much of an untalented hack you are, and the Hollywood Hype Machine will gas the everliving fuck out of your derivative garbage, whereas the others, the many much more talented artists, and many much better works of (indie) animation, remain ignored.
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Veronica moved to Ireland and is restarting her career as a food blogger…interesting
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the new disney+ show has a grown woman twerking in front of her child
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>>2098981I'm no "latinx" (lol), but as a fellow thirdie that had a mild westaboo phase thanks to Nick and CN when I was younger—I would say the thinking is no different from a kid who grew up in the West and loved anime so much that they started making anime-influenced shows themselves. Think like the creators of Avatar, Boondocks, and I Don't Want to Be a Magical Girl. They say imitation is the highest form of flattery after all.
Still, I look at the indie comics/animation scene here (which isn't that big anyway) and it's pretty disheartening to see local creators place their own stories in places like the US—a place they never grew up in—perhaps to reach a more "mass appeal" worldwide? There's also definitely case of cultural cringe like "ugh, look at [X]'s culture we can't compete with that" kind of thinking.
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>>2100316>People flaming the show for being inappropriate.>Fire up tiktok or instagram>30something Moms acting exactly like this or worsenonnie, everyone flips out whenever a show holds a mirror up and viewers don't like what they see. I give it a pass because how many disney girls actually have living moms that care? I like this trend.
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>>2100394Yes. I think they removed that character and put in a christian one near the US election or something, the first episode starts with a girl praying to god.
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>>2100535I'll take it over "men should be allowed in woman and children's safe spaces if imagining themselves as a girl makes their dick hard".
Old news but here's another Calarts alumni failure to launch pilot. These people really have no ideas outside if their own lives and have no interest in anything besides themselves.
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>>2100530The trans character still exists, they just cut the obvious trans talk scenes and edited the character's portrait to pretend they were always a girl. But you can still tell it's about trans stuff in the episodes even if they removed the more obvious scenes.
The Christian character was a different one.
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>>2098633Blackgryph0n is threatening his alleged
victim with legal threats.
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>>2100799Probably why he sent her a C&D
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>>2100963AYRT oh I swear I heard somewhere that it sounds that way because of the lips. Good to know that it sounds weird in Japanese too. I've always wondered.
Normal dialogue
>I think my sister took the train downtown. I hope she'll be safeAnime dialogue
>I think my sister, [first name], took the train downtown in the [Place, Japan] region. [First name] [last name] is a foolish girl who always gets into trouble and [Place, Japan] is full of troublemakers, like when [exposition that does not matter or is relevant to the plot in any way] or when [incredibly heavyhanded foreshadowing]. I hope that my sister, [first name], will be safe>camera cuts to sister tripping over nothing and we see an upskirt panty shot No. 2101374
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>>2101094I'm still in absolute shock how much Mark blew up in size in the last few years… Actually I shouldn't be since he didn't seem to go out that much and more than likely had a diet of mostly junk food but it doesn't make transformations like this any less shocking. This just has to be intentional on her part and as soon as you know it, come 2026 he'll look like a younger Quinton Reviews lol.
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>>2095215He literally is Hunter from TOH. Both in character and design, she didn’t even try to hide it kek.
>>2101415Win or Lose is actually pretty good. I haven’t gotten to the trans episode yet but it’s captivating and intense.
>>2100370This was my least favorite episode because it felt like they were trying too hard to make her seem like an amazing mom. They purposefully skip over the parts where she’s shoving the camera in her daughters face for gift or bringing the camera into her room, and she gives details about her to a bunch of online randos so they can stalk her down! There’s even a part where she gets mad and says she would never encroach on her daughter’s privacy. Like bitch where?
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>>2101413Yet another instance of style over substance. Looks like they're trying to rip off Gravity Falls/The Book of Bill this time, not even the art style and animation style is original. "Like nothing you've ever seen before" and it's just cobbled together from various other popular works into another palatable product, as usual for them. Yet it's already shilled to high heaven, you cannot convince me Glitch is in any way indie, they have to be an industry plant. At least there wasn't any of their insufferable jokes in this trailer, I honestly expected there to be some. As "gritty" as it may look, this unavoidably will be generic, advertiser-friendly and kid-friendly slop made to sell merch, this is Glitch we're talking about, so keep your expectations low. Also, funnily enough Mr. Beast is there, hyping it up, yeah, that sure will convince me to watch it.
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You know what I’m glad that venture bros keeps periodically going viral on xitter lately because maybe zoomers will watch it and realize that a cartoon can actually be creative and funny while also having an interesting premise and characters. I think a problem with all of the young zoomer cartoonists is that they have no frame of reference for decent cartoons besides Steven universe and shitty anime.
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>>2101390Ayrt and same lol. Who knew that spending years making videos about Spongebob and Family Guy could make you a millionaire (probably exaggerating but ykwim lol).
>>2101427Tbh and I'm not proud to admit it but if he still looked in shape while sporting his longer hair, I think he'd look cute kek And I feel Veronica stays with him because he's sponge who will put up with her. The fact that he's rich is an added incentive because it does feel like she is a handful to deal with.
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>>2101374There was a movie about this phenomenon.