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>Rape victim Timothy Heller came out in 2017, and shared her experience>Mel was quick to tell her fans not to make up random rumors against Oliver Tree, her ex, but not against Timothy Heller, who has spoken out about her experience with Mel>Thanked fans for harrassing, victim-blaming, and denying the truth about Timothy's story. >Admitted to having sexual physical contact with Tim ("She never said no"), only to change her story and claim nothing happened at all.>Has had more than one victim speak up regarding her lack of sexual boundaries, such as Madeleine Carina>Her former workers have come out and express how she was narcissistic, couldn't understand things outside of her "narrow reality" and overall very verbally abusive towards them while working for her. (such as Gina Fey, who worked on her PR)>Sold overpriced merch to fans, such as a cheap version of the dress for 175-275USD, that's so cheap not only can you see through it, but many fans admit they don't even wear the dress due to how easily it rips.>When criticized, she attempted to justify said prices by claiming that she was in debt and is struggling to afford to pay bills, and lying about being a multi-millionaire.>Has posted CP of Jennette McCurdy on her Tumblr before, as well as illustrating child pornography of her crybaby caricature.>Timothy Heller has come out again as of 2024 on TikTok and discussed her experience with the doxxing, harassment, misinformation and smear campaign and psychological abuse that Melanie's community has put her through. Melanie's Twitter
https://x.com/melanielbbh?lang=enMelanie's currently inactive Tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com/melaniemartinezmusicTimothy's TikTok
https://www.tiktok.com/@frickmylife500 No. 2017943
>>2017930She’s historically been discussed in Celebricows including recently
>>>/ot/2084765She’s not really milky though, she barely posts anymore and has announced she’s gonna be on hiatus until 2028 after this year. Making a thread now of all times would be like if the Nicole Dollanganger threads started in 2024
>>2017932From what I know it wasn’t porn but she posted a pic of an old ICarly episode where Sam (the character Jeanette was playing) as in a changing room and trying to grab a dress from Carly, you couldn’t see anything though since it was on TV. She posted that and said she found Jeanette hot or something but from what I know in that episode Jeanette was 16 and Melanie was a teenager too. The whole thread reeks of underaged coquette aesthetic teenager, maybe Melanie’s weird Stans could be milky but her calves and the woman herself are way different. She’s not Indie so I don’t think Indie Band Cows would work
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>>2017942>>2017930she's not indie and not a band so no
as much as I hate Fartinez I agree it's a bit late to make a thread on her now. her fanbase on the other hand is still actively producing milk so this thread could be used to post unhinged crybabies.
obligatory moon cycle lyrics post:
Why you always act so serious?
I said, "Baby boy, you know I'm on my period, " yeah
He bit the cherry down, he's delirious
Seeing red figures in his mirrors and
Acting like a real tough, furious
Blood swimming turned him amphibious
He says he doesn't care, that he's into this
It happens every time the new season hits
Skin ready for my heavy daily crème
I keep it handy
Womb shedding any lessons
Making room for blessings
Juice melting like raspberry pomegranate
It's so scary
How my aura got him howling at my moon cycle, baby
Now he kissing on the ground that I walk on
Tryna get another taste, but I'm all cramped up
Pain like a blade on the front lawn
But I don't give a fuck 'cause I'm so strong
I don't gotta act, I'm ethereous
I could win a fight on my period
Matter fact, right now I could build a pyramid
You're messin' with my cycle, that is dangerous
(sage your shit) No. 2018185
>>2018184>Merging cells and flesh, I'm baby building all my insides>Right to see the future right before my eyes>I know what's coming, what's coming
>In the womb, get me out now, safe, and I'm sound>Cut the cord, I'm comin'>Out the blue, belly water too hot and cold>Through with it, oh now she's birthing>Feeling alive, the closer that I get to my life>I'm pushing out the center, the core>I'm swimming through the flower no more, no more(sage your shit) No. 2018320
>>2018306Timothy may be kinda milky since one of her ex friends named Globelamp came out recently to say she actually supported their abuser who beat them so bad they lost teeth, maybe this should just to celebricows though, not the first time someone tried making a Melanie thread when the allegations come out and it was deemed better for celebricows
>>>/ot/214515 No. 2018421
>>2017915>>2018320Globelamp her damn self could become an lolcow. There used to be a literal website dedicated to
victims of her,(survivorsofglobelamp) but it looks like they site is down so now it's just a Twitter profile.
https://x.com/survivorsofglob?lang=en I'm pretty sure she's already been proven as an unreliable narrator within the overall discussion regarding Timothy's victimhood because regardless if globelamp considers Timothy a good person or not, that doesn't mean Globelamp herself was there in the same room the night Timothy and Mel had physical contact.
No. 2018428
>>2018333>>2018377Sorry for shit quality
No. 2018454
>>2018184her lyrics are awful. have you nonas heard her song "A Million Men"? the lyrics are gross and make her sound like a pedo.
also i agree that she isn't indie. she got her start on The Voice
sidenote, but i've been tinfoiling that the face she's been wearing is due to bogged plastic surgery. i'm not a fan though so i don't know when the last time she's been seen without it is. i don't trust social media because she can just edit her pictures
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Are these the drawings people are calling CP? Lmao
No. 2018482
>>2018456do we really have to pretend she isn't a pedophile lol. she's along the same vein as the tumblr coquettes of 2012 like nicole dollanganger who posted cp because guro manga and literal cp artists like trevor brown normalized it.
crybaby is about the adventures of a child sang in her pov yet half the songs are about having sex. plus her fuckass agere ddlg shit. like. please let us not pretend she does agere as therapy lol.
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>>2018454i think the suit/mask is because she is insecure about gaining weight, picrel. i don't even think she looks bad but she has gained a significant amount of weight compared to her previous album releases and subsequent tours. most of her costuming now obscures her body and would allow her to wear shapewear underneath.
No. 2018510
>>2018482She isn't into this age play thing anymore thought. It was popular in 2015 and everyone did it. But because its
problematic now she moved on to this alien thing.
say what you want, crybaby era is in my heart forever. K-12 and Portals just aren't the thing. Her time was 2010s creepy cute era, now its gone No. 2018606
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>>2018585>it's all just metaphorsBe so fr her art style is heavily influenced by Trevor Brown and all his art is cp of toddlers in BDSM gear. The freudian decision to use a ~metaphor~ of a literal child juxtaposed with teehee sexual innuendos the whole album speaks for itself. Normal people don't even think to make these associations. Plus she's like. A whole rapist. No conscience. So many of these creepy cutesy girls love being pedophilic with the whole baby kawaii thing jUxtApOsEd with shit like bdsm because "mUh aRt traumacore uwu". Reminds me when kotakoti had "I'm perverted and disgusting" in her bio when she was 16 and showed up on the scene in 2012.
Idk why so many egirls these days and generally ones into the doll/kawaii thing are literal pedophiles it's so depressing when they show their asses. I dread following jojifuku accounts because I don't know if they're going to post toddlercore on their IG stories. I feel like hentai just desensitized everyone to this shit because they think cartoons make it okay to air it all out.
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>>2018606nona pls stop posting Trevor's art. I love it to death and the idea that i would get cancelled for it hurts me.
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Yall nonas are unsufferable. Creepy cute is an amazing genre and basically the only edgy style that has female fanbase.
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I was just thinking that Melanie needed her own thread at this point! Well done nonnie. Hopefully this doesn't get infected by children posting grainy edits trying to pass off as proof.
Anyway, some crazed Melanie fan which was probably a child, emailed Globelamp a threatening email.
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>>2018628I dunno about that
No. 2018733
>>2018630What bothers me to no end is that 99% of "creepy cute", violence against cute things, involve women and little girls. You rarely, very rarely, see an example of that with a male subject.
Inb4 someone posts a single counter example and thinks that it proves me wrong. I'm talking about the disproportion.
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>>2018606>>2018628Trevor is a disgusting creep who admits he's attracted to 14yo girls and "18 year olds who look 12". He also believes that the age of consent should be lowered. Mind you he was 50 years old when he did this interview in 2009.
No. 2018899
Literally no one here is this innocent angel lmao
>Melanie has been accused of having mistreated / abused multiple people>Timothy has tweets in the past being racist and pro-nazi and acts like this is so triggering for her and she can’t even hear Melanie’s name yet admitted to hate watching Melanie’s stuff>Globelamp has her own accusationsAll of them are questionable and shitty and this is nothing to say about various others with odd pasts like Yungelita (one of Melanie’s friends)
>>1187195>>2018421Post screencaps please and thank you, not all of us have Xitter and this is an imageboard
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>>2018899ntayrt, but…
> "post screencaps"> proceed to not post caps for your claimsshitty collage, but this is what i could find. haven't heard about this since 2017 and the rabbit hole is deep and autistic.
No. 2019001
>>2018484shes in an industry that heavily scrutinizes her appearance. it would make sense to under a persona to cope with it this way.
however, shes i think shes gonna have a harder time going through this because of her initial crybaby persona and the immature egril mindset she endorsed thats pretty damaging for women. her own fans have split because some cant understand her wanting to grow tf up and because a wallflower crybaby For Life kek. and shes already a diva and cunty all around.
>>2018491anon. please go outside and gain some life experience. that is an extremely weird characterization of growing up.
>>2018628youre fucking weird anon. Trevor is a creepy white guy with a fetish for little asian girls. his endorsement by other artists (plaaastic too, and look at her now) is concerning. it means his fanbase is so porn brain rotted and see so much degrading shit that it doesnt faze them. that's extremely concerning considering how hyper misogynist his art is.
No. 2019075
Idk if she's worthy of a new thread, but i'm just gonna say i can't believe there are anons whiteknighting Melanie Martinez, of all people, as well as pedo Trevor Brown (he stated it as openly as he could
>>2018833) if not freely admitting to loving their shitty pre-coquette 3edgy5u pedo inclined content. Is this all edgy coquettes marching here on their tumblr break? Is whisper and pinterest not enough for you?
>>2019001>his endorsement by other artists (plaaastic too, and look at her now)I can't help but agree. They both referenced each other in their art, but the especially yucky thing is, iirc, he did a Plaaastic fanart right after she died, she was dressed in some BDSM gear, you know the childish/bdsm type mix idk. The girl was dead and yet he couldn't resist throwing some fetishistic shit onto her ew. He also drew Holli heroingranola which i find hilariously weird. he loved following these fucked up, bpd junkie bitches types.
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>>2019075Its just strange how he and some people who liked him got cancelled but some dont. There is a model named Sheidlina who seems to have a huge fanbase and she is openly obsessed with Travor and like. No cancelling?? Make up your mind already.
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Madeleine claims it wasn’t rape but isn’t this literally the textbook definition?
No. 2019623
>>2019482Holy shit nona, I only heard about the hologram in passing but it's worse than I imagined. $400 for this putrid green sepia filtered Melanie that could only produce awkward interactions for the entire 10 seconds. She could have at least had more poses to cycle through so everyone doesn't get the same picture.
Vidrel OP said the Portals concert was overpriced and cheaply done. Colour me shocked.
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I never really listened to Melanie but I’m surprised to see so many people shocked about the allegations returning. Even as a non Melanie fan I was aware of Timothee’s story. Did everyone pretend to forget about it until the allegations arose again and are acting outraged to save face or is most of her fandom so fresh they couldn’t be bothered to research their favorite singer? I saw one girl do a video about taking down the Melanie merch that occupied a good portion of her bedroom, you’d think if you liked someone that much you’d know about their past controversies.
>>2019482You can really see the downgrade especially with her perfumes. Without even talking about the scents, the crybaby perfume has a very well made design. The packaging is cute, the perfume bottle being a baby bottle is clever and iconic, something you would keep well after you use it all. The original release was $50 for the 75 ml bottle.
Now compare that to the portals perfume. The plastic head is ugly and looks incredibly cheap for something you’re supposed to want to display. The head popping out of the vase looks ridiculous and the size of the vials mislead amount of perfume you actually get. $275 for four 15 ml bottles, all together less volume than the crybaby perfume which was a fraction of the price. Apparently there will be a 50 ml bottle roll out but I imagine they will also be grossly overpriced.
No. 2019678
>>2019586Is that the same person that was Melanies makeup artist? I vaguely remember some of Melanie's ex friends being either makeup/wardrobe artist or some sort of backstage tour worker saying Timothy's story is probably true bc she had a similar story, meaning Melanie bitched to her for months how they should totally fuck and she finally reluctantly consented and did just so Melanie fucks off. if not that would be yet another peson on the list, why is this bitch stooping low enough to beg for sex like why can't you just understand someone said no, walk off & get a tinder or something the fuck.
>>2019482fucking kek, MM's fans are just as retarded and obsessive as Poppy's fans, same trade. If you meet melaniers, RUN
No. 2019715
>>2019482>She also charged hundreds for "VIP" tickets where you could take a photo in front of a hologramseems to be she cant stand her fans and wants to keep her distance but still make money off of them kek
>>2019586>mel pushes a friend for months to hook up like some sleaze>waits until friend is at a party and drugged up to take advantage of heryeah thats fucked up. inagine of mel was a guy. she doesnt get a pass because of her retarded baby persona.
No. 2019732
>>2018630>>2018630Nobody is saying creepycute is a bad genre.
People are saying that the creepycute genre shouldn't involve a creepy, gross obsession with pedophilia.
Trevor Brown isn't a disgusting human being for making work for the creepycute genre, he's disgusting and degenerate for the subject matter within his art.
And Melanie Martinez isn't being criticized by the public for being into creepycute, She's being criticized for being a rich person who can get away with SA simply because she's popular and famous enough to.
As for her art, it's not universally agreed upon but many have pointed out that It's really weird that she makes money off taking a traumatic subject and making an emopop nursery rhyme for it.
And there is frequent debates online questioning if her work panders to DDLG
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>>2019732>And there is frequent debates online questioning if her work panders to DDLGI don't think she panders, I think she's just into it herself and expresses it in her work. She clearly gets off on pursuing unwilling sex participants so she's likely a sadist. And Trevor Brown isn't just a pedophile most of his pedo art is BDSM and done through a heavily sadistic lense ie bruised, beaten, bleeding, crying, tortured female toddlers. Makes sense for Melanie to dig his "work" as someone into fetish shit.
No. 2019824
>>2019710>>2018630>>2019781I don't understand why people are defending creepy cute style. Most of it features women or even little girls being mutilated or tortured. How is this not misogyny? There is no art style with males being tortured or mutilated. I wonder why?
Who in their right mind would defend Trevor Brown? For a scrote to draw pictures like this he would have to be a pedo and a sadistic pervert.
No. 2019826
>>2019781Kek i remember he was whining in his blog that Melanie wont admit she is inspired by him because she doesn't want the shit to hit the fan even harder. But she definitely likes his artworks.
>>2019824I personally dont mind dark topics, he's art is cute,
buts its a shame im kinda afraid of buying his books because like what if?? They are sold in japan freely and im jealous Anyways, hes time is gone now. Even Melanie is past this baby googoo gaagaa time cause like its a no-no today. But i will miss the 2010s. It was, now its gone. She moved on.
but not trevor kekk enjoy the censorship you pedo retard No. 2019911
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>>2019643I couldn't agree more. She thinks what she does is deep because she was a tumblr girl who was able to get famous and have a platform off music. Everything she preaches and says has already been said on tumblr. You can even see the activism she does is pretty much the same from SJW tumblr era. Even her rape allegations scream "I never had a lesbian experience when I realized I was gay at a young age, Now I bug my female friends for one!!". Normally people like this larp through lesbian art and ships. It's plain as day she hates her fans, with the Tunnel Vision music video showing it the most, with video game action choices and a little girl's computer getting destroyed. She's definitely aware of how rabid her younger fans are.
No. 2019917
>>2019909 famous people like Melanie would never admit being inspired by his works an risk their career. He should accept that since he choose to draw taboo stuff, it comes with it's consequences.
Anyway, Melanie moved on, she's now into her alien mushroom weed phase, so no worries about her copying him anymore.
No. 2019965
Fucking kek at that one anon whking DDLG and pedo aesthetics and being laughing stock of this thread
>>2019710>retards kepts saying that cute aesthetic is pedophilicI didn't know that adult ass woman sucking on pacifiers whilst covering her tits with teddy bears, sucking on milk bottles and wearing whole ass diaper and bibs in photoshoots whilst striking sexual poses is "cute aesthetic" and not pedo. What the fuck are you even doing on lolcow? I suppose you adore Shayna's "cute, not pedo aesthetic" as well?
No. 2020001
>>2019965this really reveals how fucked in the head melanie's fanbase is (and with that trevor sperging anon completely glancing over her kid asian fetish), its kinda amazing how they just cant help themselves reveal their pornsick minds
either way these are the fans melanie deserves.
No. 2020008
>>2019781Yeah this isn't even legitimately creepycute like Ryden, it's blatantly pedophilic. The child with videotape wrapped around them (implication sextape, cp) and the schoolgirl, barely even cartoony, with legs wide open and a big red X behind her (implication, sexualised but offlimits, but making a parody of the fact) and holding some pointed object behind her back.
>>2018728This one with the bruised face and strategically placed pointed implement is gross too.
I do like creepycute art (specifically not his, but art made by women) but even some of the more acceptable artists in the genre have a very obvious focus on young children, like they don't even paint adults (e.g. mab graves) Normal adult humans aren't interested in solely painting young children over and over, pedophilic themes aside. The subject matter itself is dodgy. I always thought Melanie's CryBaby era and associated imagery was hinting at pedoshit but back then people were pretty much in denial about it. Glad at least that it's being called out now.
>>2019911>It's plain as day she hates her fans, with the Tunnel Vision music video showing it the most, with video game action choices and a little girl's computer getting destroyed. She's definitely aware of how rabid her younger fans are.Thing is, she's an adult woman who looks like an adult woman, and she fetishises children so she very literally hates her young female fans because she can't be them.
Nothing worse than a seething womanhating woman, it's probably a good thing she avoid her fans like the plague kek
No. 2020016
>>2019715I don’t understand how people will see girls who post themselves sucking on a baby bottle in a bib and call them out on the pedo vibes, but if you see a lady do it
in a music video then it’s just artistic expression. The metaphors aren’t even good in her album.
No. 2020064
>>2019917She definitely tried to walk the line with the weird adult baby stuff to keep her career "safe". I don't really get her current phase, she looks like some sort of dark crystal knockoff cat fursona. It's both ugly and try-hard.
>>2019826>>2019890So weird to see women supporting actual admitted pedophiles because they think art of little girls getting abused is "cute". Get help nonnas.
>>2019909Good. He's in his 70s now, hope his final years remain unkind to him.
No. 2020137
>>2020128>Women who enjoy art like this are walking red flags in the same way men who enjoy art like this are>Noooo what about the poor innocent moids!! Its women who are evil (as always kek)You know damn well you're lying, nona. Its different but you don't have the guts to admit it because you are afraid to acknowledge that moids are worse.
>>2020008>Normal adult humans aren't interested in solely painting young children over and overThis take is ridiculous
No. 2020195
>>2020137nta bit how tf did you leap to think anon was defending moids????
stretch before you reach, and find healthier outlets because you clearly got offended for a reason.
how can melanie and her retarded fans glance over violent imagery against women and children so easily. the older you get that just lets to a maladjusted adult with weird ideas about sex who shouldnt be around children, minors, or any person really because look at melanie;
that mindset endorsed by a celebrity figure always seems to be tied to them being revealed as a cunty diva and SA allegations. Melanie's words about what happened between her and Timothy always seemed a little weird to me ('never said no') and thanking her rapid fans. Its not just Timothy Heller I'm curious about, I'm wondering if any future allegations about her behavior will come out now.
No. 2020197
>>2020172What a waste of time. This just said everything that's in this thread. Go promote your video somewhere else.
So far just radio silence from Melanie. Probably will not give a "no I didn't" statement anytime soon this time.
As for Timothy, why would you show up to an interview unprepared and not think they were ever going to ask you when it happened? I get cloud storage can mess up dates, but you can usually determine on the spot that a photo is out of place dated incorrectly. She also doesn't mention why she keeps bouncing back and forth on who wanted to buy the vintage lovers kit. First said it was Melanie and then in the mini interview with the 15 year old fan on instagram live, she said she, herself said that day that they should buy it.
My tinfoil is that they were having sex behind each other's boyfriend's backs. Melanie most likely initiated then left her because she got her thrill. Weird to not want to pull the security camera footage of the thrift shop from that day if it still exists to see what happened before the alleged rape.
No. 2020200
I don’t believe her story about how she got the date wrong either but people are way too stuck up on the whole date thing anyway. Why does the date matter, when Melanie confirmed that the sexual intercourse took place? Timothy was factually not lying about the intercourse taking place. So how does the accuracy of the date affect the case in any way? Her lying about the date doesn’t prove anything in regards to whether the sex (that we know 100% for sure took place) was consensual or rape.
>>2020197>My tinfoil is that they were having sex behind each other's boyfriend's backs. That was also my first thought when Timothy mentioned she had a boyfriend during that time. She might be trying to cover up that she cheated on her boyfriend. Especially since I believe they were still dating when she first came out with the allegations, so it is suspicious.
No. 2020208
>>2020195>>2020128Women who like this kind of art are usually self harmers and have childhood trauma and/or major body image problems.
Men who like this sort of art are sexual predators.
It's not the same.
No. 2020209
>>2020208Idk the dollish drawings are whatever but if you enjoy shit like
>>2019781 and DDLG you’re a pedophile to me. Idc if you’re a girl or a woman. Pedo women are better in the sense that they’re much less likely to offend than pedo scrotes but they’re still nasty filthy worthless pedos .
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My prediction is that Melanie will act the same as the first time Timothy tried to expose her. She will simply stay quiet and let her fans do all the work defending her. That’s the best thing a celebrity can do tbh, just stay quiet and only start speaking out once your schizo fans have already spun the perfect defense narrative for you kek. This strategy worked for Johnny Depp, Michael Jackson , OJ Simpson & co too.
No. 2020224
>>2020208so women who like this shit are trying be a
victim for the second time after childhood by associating with predators who also like this shit.
thanks. we know. thats the problem. look at alice glass.
No. 2020231
>>2020208Women who enjoy art like this are still supporting the pedophile artists making it. Literally do not understand why this is so hard to see.
You are no better for liking this because of your “trauma” than the pedophile drawing it.
No. 2020236
>>2020208Just curious, do you also like Grimes and her scrolling deadflow's inpregnated children manga drawings as well? Are you one of those idiots who praise Nicole Dollanganger for reblogging cp and drawings of children giving birth? You're still supporting a pedophile and glorifying children getting hurt/sexualized. Thinking "muh trauma" justifies this actually shows you lack empathy for
victims. Get help, sit on coquette tumblr less and stop inflicting this idiocy on others
No. 2020275
>>2020202 my guess is because it would be hard to prove and just overall a waste of time.
Melanie could also sue her for defamation, but she always stay quiet and let the crybabies take care of it.
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>>2020202Thought this time around she would be going to. So now she spoke out again. Is she finally going to heal, move on and live her life and resume music? It seems most people are on her side and Melanie fans are left to scramble because they spent a good chunk of money for this tour, all for Timothy to speak up again.
Because Timothy did say on a live that putting Melanie in jail was not the goal. Or any type of consequence was not the goal. Okay so what is the goal then? She made a tweet like this before, you cannot say you don't want anything to happen but talk like you want something to happen. If Timothy wants a fair chance at her career back, she should say so. If she wants Atlantic Records to drop Melanie or Melanie be charged and listed as a sex offender, she should say that. Tim likes to drop bombs then do nothing it seems. There's no perfect
victim but most
victims have some sort of end goal in mind, especially after getting support.
No. 2020313
>>2020172Nonnie this has been known and is what started the thread lol. Idk if this is Austin Green or whatever that guy’s name is but I think
nonnie I’m replying to is probably just someone late to the topic
>>2020197>My tinfoil is that they were having sex behind each other's boyfriend's backsYou make an interesting point, I remember in Celebricows that someone mentioned that what they think happened was they were just being Spicy Straights at the time, didn’t communicate well, got uncomfortable, and now it’s snowballed into rape allegations. I don’t blame anyone for believing Timothy because obviously “she never said no” is abysmal wording even if followed by the “never said no to what we chose to do” and because I get people feeling better about supporting a possible
victim than a possible rapist
Another point I see is
>”B-but innocent until proven guilty”>”B-but guilty until proven innocent”The thing is both of those apply to both of them, the first one you have to believe Timothy is innocent of lying until proven otherwise and the second one you have to believe Timothy is guilty of lying until proven otherwise
No. 2020326
>>2020202>I don't understand why doesn't she go to the police?You want someone who's been harrassed to the point of job instability and has already been punished by society for speaking up about her trauma to go up in court against a multi-millionaire in a judicial system that already has an infamous reputation for failing SA
victims and favoring the wealthy.
You'd have to be either very undereducated on the American judicial systems flaws to suggest she should have taken it to court instead of resurfacing.
Melanie on the other hand, has the money and power to take Timothy to court and sue her for defamation… but why hasn't she?… Because obviously something did happen.
Obviously Timothy's only chance at justice was the media, but we all failed her and have refused to hold the diaper fairy goblin woman accountable.
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>>2019824>I don't understand why people are defending creepy cute styleTrevors art isn't creepycute, it's just degenerate and it's humiliating that people associate the creepycute artstyle with him.
There's so much actually tasteful, fun and creative artists who love to combine both creepy and cute out there but for some reason y'all associate it with degenerates like Trevor.
It's stupid that so many of Melanie's fans will try to act as if Melanie invented the creepycute style. And embarrassing for genuinely talented and creative creepycute artists to immediately be compared to Melanie.
No. 2020343
>>2020291
>Because Timothy did say on a live that putting Melanie in jail was not the goal. Or any type of consequence was not the goal.People like this make it so much harder for
victims of sexual assault. If the goal isn't to prevent Martinez from harming anyone else by either putting her behind a jail cell or slapping her with an expensive fine… What's the goal? She's making it so easy for people to turn around and accuse her of lying for clout. I won't go play perfect
victim games, but this is a big glaring red flag. She assaulted you, but you don't want her facing any punishment?
No. 2020346
>>2020291>Because Timothy did say on a live that putting Melanie in jail was not the goal. Damn, I didn't knew about this, I'm indeed stupid for believing her claims then, saying such thing makes her looks like a liar who's just jealous of Melanie and wants to destroy her career.
Who doesn't want to see their rapist paying for their crimes?
No. 2020357
>>2020346Idk about this all but imo Timothy gained nothing from telling this story. i remember all her socials were deleted/privated for the longest time bc Melanie's stans would always harass and hack her accounts
>>2020332This. I hope this is the last time i see actual women whiteknighting this pedo. i can't even comprehend how can you excuse this. I googled Trevor Brown and first things i saw:
>a little girl running/jumping on a maze of huge, erected dicks>little girl standing next to shelves full of jars with dismembered dicks inside, licking a dagger (first thing you see in his tag on tumblr)>girl in latex "sexy" nazi costume with a swastika, with a dog on a chain and a dildo attatched to said chain>girl sucking bloodied dildo>various pics of girls with limbs cut, gagged/boundDrawing children around erected dicks isn't "just creepy/cute aesthetic", if you don't see a problem you are scrotebrained. And no, i'm not gonna post said pics, sorry. Imageboard and all but i really don't wanna save this on my computer even temporarily
No. 2020362
>>2020342“going to the police” just gives some random moids the chance to mock you and perhaps also assault you themselves
the police are not there to protect women from sexual assault, as evidenced by how few sexual assaults are charged and successfully prosecuted
No. 2020366
>>2020291>>2020346>>2020202I think because Timothy already knows deplatforming her is going to be more effective than going to the police. It’s already difficult for police to take rape seriously, let alone woman on woman rape let alone a case that happened years ago. How could Timothy prove it actually took place? Especially since Melanie would probably have better lawyers, a judge could throw out the case based on lack of evidence. If she goes for her fanbase tho, she can actively hurt her sales and profit. I wouldn’t be surprised if Melanie is staying quiet this time around because a bunch of record label suits are telling her to keep her mouth shut.
It’s also what makes me incline to believe Timothy is telling the truth since mels label hasn’t tried suing her for defamation.
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>>2020342this person actually thinks the police give a shit about
victims.
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>>2020346>>2020343>>2020291Ignore the random words on here. Tiktok was the only place to find this
No. 2020530
>>2020476How is she even supposed to put Melanie in jail? Even physically
abusive cases of rape typically end with the rapist walking free. Are people in this thread underage?
No. 2020545
>>2020362And as long as people like you keep encouraging women not to sue their rapists with statements like „because nobody will believe you anywayyyy“ there will never be any change in this matter and we will continue to not be taken seriously. You guys are complaining about a problem you help to upkeep.
>>2020342You‘re right nona but most people (like those itt) just keep pushing this narrative that it‘s a waste of time so many
victims don’t feel encouraged to seek out actual legal justice. However Timothy didn’t even want legal justice in the first place so that’s that kek
No. 2020551
>>2020541A lot of SA
victims who were close to their assaulters prior to what happened don't want them in jail. Most
victims aren't perfect.
No. 2020573
>>2020571Both are true. Even if she wanted to, it'd be difficult because most rapists don't go to jail, and that's typically not what all
victims even aim for.
No. 2020581
>>2020580The problem is that your questioning is kind of retarded and tone-deaf. You can point out inconsistencies without pretending it's unheard of for a
victim to not go to the police, kek.
No. 2020630
>>2020595>It’s the Pixielocks ~trauma~not to mention that she doesn’t even pretend to be ~traumatized~ by melanie in her tiktok she just talks about being traumatized by the crybabies lel
>in Celebricows that someone mentioned that what they think happened was they were just being Spicy Straights at the time, didn’t communicate well, got uncomfortable, and now it’s snowballed into rape allegations.that might really have been it. i believe timothy’s story but she also admitted in an interview that she bought a sex game to play with melanie that night. correct me if im wrong. i’m not claiming she asked for it, but if you want to play a sex game w someone who asked you to hook up before, it will obviously lead to them believing you changed your mind and want to hook up now. so there is a chance melanie really did believe she got her consent and maybe interpreted her acting off at times as being nervous rather than not into it. the fact they were both women / the lesbo dynamic really matters here because melanie might have thought timothy wanted to hook up but was too ashamed to clearly voice it out loud or something because of the stigma surrounding homosexuality and because timothy had a boyfriend. and who actually has a picture perfect robotic conversation about consent before having sex? very detached from reality. my overall takeaway from this is that timothy has the right to feel violated but melanie also wasn’t aware of the lack of consent and should not have invalided timothys feelings about the situation. but i certainly do not think shes a threat to society and needs to lose her career over this. and people who put this on the same level as rape by moids are brain dead.
No. 2020638
>>2020545Yeah they're fuckin mouth breathers for sure. I'm aware ~cops don't care about
victims~. You're supposed to force those retards to do their jobs and at least get it on record so the next person can do their best to avoid the rapist. As long as people try to "handle it on their own" with the court of public opinion, the cops will be even more useless and more rapists will get bolder. Publicly stating that your rapist facing legal punishment isn't the goal is juackassery no matter how you slice it. Because, what is the goal then? What do you want? If you're just warning others about her thats fine. But still, you need to also go through the legal avenues. You can't just expose her on Twitter, do a bunch of retarded interviews and fuck off until her next album release.
No. 2020657
>>2020638Ignore them they purposely misinterpret everything you say on here and twist your words just so they can repeat the same 2 phrases about how there are no perfect
victims! Police useless! Many
victims act that way actually!! Even if one was never implying otherwise to begin with kek. We get it. That doesn’t exempt Timothy from criticism and doubt. Her friend and her were literally on live joking about how "Melanie didn’t stab her or anything relaxxxx guys she doesn’t deserve jail chilll". How are people supposed to take her seriously when she was not acting serious about it herself? Filing a lawsuit isn’t solely about winning the case, it also demonstrates your sincerity to people and shows them how serious of an issue this is to you. If you refuse to file a lawsuit and straight up admit you don’t want her to be legally persecuted, while doing lives and interviews with underage fangirls where you giggle and laugh about the topic then you dont get to cry and complain about people not taking you seriously. It doesn’t matter if it this is a common behavior in
victims or a coping mechanism or whatever, you still can’t expect people to take you seriously that way. I’m not defending the retarded crybabies harassing her though and making up fake evidence and shit.
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>>2020202I get this point’s been beaten into the ground but there’s many reasons. People have brought up that Melanie is far richer than Timothy but also celebrity trials are known to go with the court of public opinion, great example being the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial. And the thing is it wouldn’t be a matter of “who is lying or not” it would be a matter of “do we wanna risk angering the TikTok Crybabies or the TikTok millennials wishing they were teens still”, they both have some pretty rabid supporters so that would probably give more fairness than the Depp/Heard case but still it’s a popularity contest more than anything. Lots of people say “no one would defend Melanie if she was a man” but the thing is it would probably be the reverse, if Mel was a moid then like the Depp/Heard case everyone would jump to believing that Melanie is the “poor
victim of slander from that evil woman playing the
victim”. I don’t really know how much I believe Timothy because she has her own really sketchy past that seems to have some legitimacy to it (I’ve heard rumors she sent pics of her tits in a group chat with teens but I have 0 idea where the proof is so it’s still alleged) so for as much as I would jump to defend Timothy like I do for women like Amber Heard and Kesha something about her is just really off to me
No. 2023521
>>2023264I don’t think she’s spicy straight, I agree she likely started as one with the Timothy stuff but assuming she actually did stuff with her other friends (whether or not you think it was rape or not) I believe she is genuinely into women, even if only sexually
>>2023493My big question is what about people like that Madeline Carina girl? What actually went on there? I doubt they’re all lying, were they all just high or something like that and don’t remember it well?
No. 2023967
>>2020595>>2020809ding ding ding. timothy, like pixielocks, is also a raging bpdchan. she idolized melanie, had a weird night of sexual experimentation where they were both high, continued to idolize her for quite some time (including dressing up as her and tagging her?) and then split and BAM. melanie is the worst person in the world, a rapist, destroyed timothy's life, whatever.
i think it doesn't help that melanie is genuinely bisexual and sexually interested in women whereas timothy is, to the best of my knowledge, a spicy straight kweer. like come on. it's very common for queerios to think that actual homo or bisexuals are predatory when they want to move beyond tee hee girls kissing girls.
No. 2023981
>>2023863Thats semingly the pipeline.
>>2023897They didnt say that techically. That nona is comparing their thin to fat blow up… and also lana isnt a good weight and looks so dumpy and unkempt since the weight gain, even just the bit of weight she does have now doesnt look good because it all hangs off her. She has the type of fearures that look good on thinner people sadly. Some people look prettier after weight gain and some look pretty after weight loss.
No. 2024118
>>2024064That lyric in Piggyback is not about Tim. The lyrics mean that Melanie has only one best friend she grew up with from New York. That's the girl who played the old lady from the Bakery music video.
Timothy, Madeline, Stella, etc were all claiming to have been close best friends with Melanie, but the lyrics are saying that they were not her "best friends" because she only has one best friend, her childhood friend.
Timothy and Melanie did not know each other until her band, Dresses, toured with her/opened for her. Tim's boyfriend was Melanie's tour manager at the time supposedly.
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Another totally real accusation towards Timothy had dropped. This is the 3rd one so far. Melanie was so quick to defend Oliver Tree against her fans, but Melanie most likely thinks this type of harassment is deserved when it comes to Timothy. I'm sorry I cannot believe any of these statements made on Twitter about Timothy. I cannot help but think if someone I knew came out about anything, and some dumb kids make posts like these with bogus claims, then that would be absolutely vile of them to do and they should all be evaluated.
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>>2025349>one minute i was 168 pounds and the next i was 72KEEEEEK