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>What is Breadtube and the leftist sphere?
A new leftist movement aiming to address, fight, and destroy the growing presence of fascism in the USA. AKA, breadtube is keyboard warriors making response videos to anti-SJW’s and the leftist sphere is a place that preaches diversity while all their biggest players are White, TIMs or upper class minroties
>General summary of their beliefs
- They are not liberals. Liberals believe first and foremost on changing the system from the inside while Leftists want to destroy it.
-They have slap fights over the intricacies of their political beliefs every other wednesday. The only thing uniting them is a vague dislike of capitalism.
>Breadtube: The big players only. Other online personalities exist, but these are the ones pulling the shots.
Famous 'Breadtubers' include Contrapoints, Philosophy Tube, Hbomberguy, and Shaun.
>Recap of past thread>Philosophy Tube troons out and begins the Contrapoints skinwalking. >>>/snow/1174667 Gives some speech at pride despite being the most 'visible trans person in Britain.' So stunning and brave! >>>/snow/1270515 >Speculation about the Philosophy Tube and Contrapoints falling out over the course of 2020 >>>/snow/1174967 >>>/snow/1178750 Some think that PT was the figure Contrapoints is referring to during the "figure in leftist politics who I could absolutely #metoo" in the canceling video, or if he's the "chad boyfriend." >>>/snow/1184313 >>>/snow/1187176 Philosophy Tube pretends that he's still friends with Contrapoints despite Contrapoints wanting absolutely nothing to do with him >>>/snow/1279758>Lindsay Ellis gets canceled on twitter for tweeting something stupid about a new Disney movie >>>/snow/1194303 issues an embarrassingly long video about it>Sarah Z is a reddit-using Killing Stalking fan >>>/snow/1198225>Contrapoints posts about having been addicted to opium, continues to make a single video every three months while still sucking money out of moronic pay pigs. >>>/snow/1238109>To no one's surprise, Vaush is a degenerate >>>/snow/1238123>ThoughtSlime transitions, upholding Contra's Law of being a male leftist >>>/snow/1270308>The autists at KiwiFarms discover what was initially thought to be Philosophy Tube's burner account, turns out to be a deranged fan despite insanely uncanny coincidences >>>/snow/1278545>Hasan Piker, leftist Twitch streamer, buys a $3 million dollar house in West Hollywood >>>/snow/1304616
>Actual communist and socialist reading if that interests youhttps://www.marxists.org> If you want to actually get involved in leftist or community organizing, join a labor union and get involved with local grassroots movements instead of debating the politics of Steven Universe or whatever.>Apologies if I left anything out. Happy posting
Past thread >>>/ot/419669>>>/ot/431610>>>/ot/431610>>>/snow/1174665
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PhilosophyTube attempts to write a letter in French and is informed by a fan that he misgendered himself twice in it.
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Full letter if anybody cares to see it in higher resolution.
Good OP btw
talk about a freudian slip>>1368615
No. It's more "Black people can't and shouldn't try to achieve the same relationships as Whites, because White people have fucked up relationship dynamics built by Racism and White Supremacy and Black people don't have the money or societal protections to create or endure or even try to be a part those dynamics. That if a Black woman or a Black man tries to emulate those circumstances with other Black people while in the overall impoverished and downtrodden situation that Black people are in within America, it's doomed to fail."
He isn't wrong.
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I fucking hate you for making me see this image every fucking day multiple times per day for fucking months to come, fuck you, fuck you a million times, an infinite number of fucks upon your head, good day
First, Africa is a continent with many countries with their own interpersonal dynamics that have been going on for centuries.
Second, what the fuck does Africa have to do with the relationship dynamics that White people have in America with each other or why Black people shouldn't emulate the relationship dynamics of White people in this country?
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and what are these "bad" relationship dynamics exaclty? Being there for your children? Lol. Nick Cannon says the same shit, and he has the economic means to do whatever he wants. It's an excuse for deadbeat/absent fathers "ackchtually by impregnating random women across the country and neglecting my children I'm fighting racism" stfu lmao
That White men are raised to embrace lopsided power dynamics between themselves and White women where White men are allowed and expected to be the dominate figures , especially when it comes to physical violence both inwards and outwards. And White women are taught and expected to enable those dynamics for both their financial well-being and in the perpetuation of Whiteness.
And there's no culture on this planet that hasn't praised looking after their children or been dammed by others for not looking after their children. Black or White or Yellow or Green or Red or Purple, everyone says they look after their own children and has been told by others that they aren't. The only people who believe that the term still holds meaning are the people desperate to have someone beneath them in this clusterfuck we call life.
no bitch it's jenny, it's fucking horrible, see why I'm so upset now? they got /our/
The problem has nothing to do with white supremacy then what people think. Black men have horrific victim
complexes and are narcissist. Black women are constantly talked down on by everyone whether it be white women or Latina women who think they are superior than them because more men want them, black men who say black women need to be submissive despite black women largely being the bread winners and bigger earners in the black community in the US, if you remove the LV rappers and lastly black women succumbing to all the brain washing and working over time to make black men like them, leading them to have one of the highest rates death by homicide, DV and single motherhood. The problem with the black community is the coddling of black men and their inability to grow past age 14.
No breadtube cuck is ever going to touch the black femicide problem and how abusive
black men are towards black women because it destroys the idea that the wakanda forever is a real thing when it isn't. It also destroys everything BLM stands for which is really about making black male felons go out and murder and rape even more black women. BLM is literally men's rights activism for black men in disguise, they just sprinkled Brianna Taylor in there to make it less obvious like she is the only black women who has been terrorised by the police. It's funny because compared to George Floyd who threatens pregnant women with death and that one guy who the police rightfully shot for going near his aunt who he raped, she is literally a saint unironically.
It's disgusting they still want to make videos like this because let's be real, they only make these videos for white approval because those are the main people watching breadtube garbage. These videos are a slap in the face to black women and children, but of course, we can't taint the already horrific image of the black community, can we?>>1369000
Black men did willingly sell their own people including women and children to slavery and have always been treasonous to everyone, no shit. Bread tubers won't say that.
Jenny's brother is a tranny and I'm pretty sure she was virtue signalling about JKR being a terf
in one of her videos.
There's no point simping for her, she's a handmaiden.
I don't know if I can argue against this. Not because it's right, because this shit comes from something toxic
, and concepts this reliant on fucked up ideas of Blackness and Black men. Whether it comes from Hoteps or Divestors or Swirllers or whatever toxic
group you wish, none of it should not be given any legitimacy or be treated as gospel of Black life within America. Because it's far easier to spout off "hip-hop" "bootstraps" "Black men are the White Men of Black People" and other nonsense that does nothing to address what is going on and how to solve it or what the dynamics between Black people are.
But I think my biggest problem with that entire screed is that it's too cowardly to openly admit that Anon sincerely believes in Black Male Pathology. Believes in the same tropes and myths that have been around black men since this country was 13 colonies and the Irish were treated as sub-human.
Which begs the question "if the X-chromosome carries the majority of our DNA, then why aren't Black women just as pathological in their actions as Black Men?"
But, just in case. Underreported for Whites, Overreported or outright taken out of context for Blacks, and the stresses of Poverty and systemic Racism and White Supremacy. There, you know the talking points you can use to make yourself feel better.
And the reason why Breadtube doesn't talk about Black Femicide, real or imagined, is because Breadtube doesn't give a shit about Black people unless it's to make themselves feel good. BLM was a hashtag created by Black women and has nothing to do with Men's Rights as much as it does Police Brutality towards Black people. Though, that you think that Brianna Taylor was a superfluous addition to the ever growing death count of Black people in violent Police interacts disgusts me personally.
But then again, you seem like you're fucked in the head, so it's whatever.>>1369118
He said that Black women seeking to emulate the the same relationship dynamics that White people have will but with a Black man ensures that the relationship will fail. That the Black man does not have access to the same resources that the average White man has and cannot provide in the same way and must find alternatives in order to create a relationship that will survive.
No, I'm defending them because Oppression Olympics is a terrible sport that nobody wins and only toxic
people desperate to have something tangible to attack wish to play.
Because figuring out who's at the bottom and why they deserve to be there ignores the question of why there's a bottom in the first place and why someone has to occupy it. And, for me the most important question, who has the right to choose what the standard is and give that designation when Human beings are a walking pile of uncertainty trying to get through a world where there's no real set of rules other than the imaginary ones we make up in the moment. Which can disappear just as easily.
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haha yes would it not be IRONIC to see a woman raped? Purely ironic humor, of course, as I am an intellectual. Am I right ladies?
Looks like a handwriting of a male trying to write like a female.>>1369078
You a moid or what?
That wasn't a mic drop. That was a pick-me or scrote making excuses for males being abusive
, incompetent and entitled with "ok well humans are a pile of uncertainty, this is ackshully oppression olympics that you're pointing out any problem sweety. u sound rly toxic
. so uh yeah."
They sound like a breadtuber themselves, probably the sort of person who gets mad at feminists for not taking responsibility for male suicide rates
No, that's me saying that anon was toxic
and full of shit and cherry-picking in order to create an object that they could punch and feel good about for the sake of themselves. Not for the sake of others, not for the sake of women and certainly not for the sake of Black women. And that getting into an argument with them to prove them wrong would be akin to giving them legitimacy in their claims, which is just something I won't do.
I'm not a Breadtuber, and I think a lot of them are as full of shit as the people they rail against. But I also think that there's a lot of people in this fucked up space looking for cheap, quick and easy answers and a villain to beat up to make themselves feel better or just want power they can't have elsewhere.>>1369283https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/10/23/discriminationpoll-african-americans.pdf
And what the fuck does condom usage have to do with this conversation, other than to throw out the same racist tropes of Black men not being responsible fathers?
Is it a conincidence? No. It's a deliberate action by a small subset of people (Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi) who used the hashtag and it's rallying cry to fund and support Trans rights and Black Trans rights. It still doesn't negate what the hashtag was originally created for (protesting the death of Travyon Martin at the hands of George Zimmerman and police brutality towards Black men and boys) and what the hashtag is supposed to represent. But it does put a greater importance on creating actual organizations with accountable leadership and transparency when it comes to donations and where they go.
>Black children live in a variety of family structures, including married, cohabiting, coparenting, and single-parenting households. Sixty-four percent of Black children live in single-parent families, which may include single parents living with an unmarried partner or with another family. Among Black women ages 15 to 50, approximately 60 percent were married or living with an unmarried partner at the time of their first birth, and roughly 40 percent were neither married nor living with an unmarried partner. The distinction between “single” and unmarried but living with a partner or co-parent is important because it indicates that, despite declines in formal marriage rates, close to 60 percent of Black fathers (close to 2.5 million of 4.2 million) live with their children, a fact often in contrast with public perceptions of Black men with children. Within these households, Black couples generally subscribe to egalitarian and flexible gender roles.,
>Black fathers—both those who live with and live apart from their children—are more likely than White or Hispanic fathers to feed or eat meals with, bathe, diaper or dress, and play or read to their children on a daily basis.
>Women of lower socioeconomic status and women of color in the United States have higher rates of abortion than women of higher socioeconomic status and White women.>>1369358
None of you care about Black women in any way, shape, or form. This isn't about Black men or the relationship dynamics between Black men and women. You just want someone to punch and feel good about yourselves and rely on fucked up stereotypes to get your fix. You offer no answers or desire to improve the lives of Black women, or any person's lives in general.
And I can't stop you or change your mind because you need that fix. So go and get your fix. I hope it makes you feel good.
There are Black women who hate other Black women and subscribe to White Supremacist views and Anti-Black sentiments. Some hate themselves, some fully buy in and take the stereotypes to heart, some were raised in an anti-Black environment and never questioned what they were being taught, and some are just mentally dysfunctional.
Being a Black woman does not exclude a Black woman, or any Black person, from White Supremacist ideas or Anti-Black sentiments.
Nah. I question the motives and intentions of anyone who can deliberately downplay, oversimplify, or outright lie about the complex, interpersonal dynamics between Black men and Women as Black women being "mules" to Black men or whatever term that has been used, is being used, or will be used in the future. I believe they argue in bad faith in order to present a warped world view that is not consistent with the majority of Black lives within America, male and female. I believe they've internalized some fucked up shit that they need to work out within themselves instead of using Black men and Black relationships as a scapegoat or a punching bag.
So if that's you, then yeah. I think you're more of a threat to Black women and Black people in general than the men you claim to want to protect Black women from. You have no means of helping anyone, including yourself, so long as you continue to need a punching bag to justify your beliefs and existence.
One more thing. Are you implying that men are pathologically inclined to certain actions? Because if pathology is not involved, then social and economic factors that groom men to certain responses can be combatted and changed with time and effort. But if it's genetic pathology, then why are women exempt despite the "x" chromosome holding the majority of our DNA?
Assuming you actually believe what you wrote. And I don't think you do.
I pointed out that the narrative of Black women having reckless sex out of wedlock is generally a lie, just like it's a lie that Black men are minimally involved in their children's lives or abandon their children outright. Posted links and everything.
That you can look at the statistics and still make a point that is largely untrue or is grossly overexaggerated…shows your intentions and what you want out of the conversation.
I didn't blame anything on White people. White Supremacy, I blame a lot on. But I haven't blamed White people. Because I know not all White people think alike or buy into White Supremacy. I believe they have their own dynamics and their own problems to fix in their own relationships with each other.
Aggression. Aggression is not the same as violence, and unless you can prove that men can't help but be violent, then environmental factors play far more of a role in how men deal with aggression than an assumed genetic inclination.
And environmental factors can be worked on and adjusted so that outright violence against women or anyone can be reduced.>>1369415
White people are not the axis of humanity nor anything special. Just the same small gathering of consciousness desperately trying to survive just like anyone else. And like everyone else, they need to put more concern in their own interpersonal relationships rather than buy into the propaganda of the people in charge that keeps everyone divided.>>1369418https://www.childtrends.org/publications/family-economic-and-geographic-characteristics-of-black-families-with-children
>Black children live in a variety of family structures, including married, cohabiting, coparenting, and single-parenting households. Sixty-four percent of Black children live in single-parent families, which may include single parents living with an unmarried partner or with another family. Among Black women ages 15 to 50, approximately 60 percent were married or living with an unmarried partner at the time of their first birth, and roughly 40 percent were neither married nor living with an unmarried partner. The distinction between “single” and unmarried but living with a partner or co-parent is important because it indicates that, despite declines in formal marriage rates, close to 60 percent of Black fathers (close to 2.5 million of 4.2 million) live with their children, a fact often in contrast with public perceptions of Black men with children. Within these households, Black couples generally subscribe to egalitarian and flexible gender roles.,
>Black fathers—both those who live with and live apart from their children—are more likely than White or Hispanic fathers to feed or eat meals with, bathe, diaper or dress, and play or read to their children on a daily basis.
this>Among Black women ages 15 to 50, approximately 60 percent were married or living with an unmarried partner at the time of their first birth, and roughly 40 percent were neither married nor living with an unmarried partner. The distinction between “single” and unmarried but living with a partner or co-parent is important because it indicates that, despite declines in formal marriage rates, close to 60 percent of Black fathers (close to 2.5 million of 4.2 million) live with their children, a fact often in contrast with public perceptions of Black men with children
is very confusing to me. Why does this study treat "unmarried partner or co-parent" as a synonym of "black father"? Saying that 60% of mothers live with an unmarried partner or Co-parent
is not in any way the same as saying that 60% of black fathers live with their children
. It's a ridiculous jump to make, an unmarried partner could be anything from a boyfriend of 6 months to a step father to the actual father. Not to mention nowhere does it say that these "unmarried partners or co-parents" are all black. It's interesting how this embarassignly biased study focuses on black women's behavior and simply infers what black men's might be based on it, instead of directly quantifying the latter, probably because the results wouldn't fit their agenda
Wasn't the person you were originally arguing and have no horse in this race, I just notice that you're full of shit lol>omg its so complex u don get it
Nah, y-chromosoids are disgusting. Don't care if brown, yellow, black or white, I will always defend women's rights to shit on them and call out their gaslighting. If you don't like it, go campaign with men to stop being abusers and murderers on a global scale lol
but it's not though. Literally nowhere is it stated or implied that these "unmarried partners or Co-parents" are the children's biological fathers. There's a reason they worded it like that and not "60% of mothers live with their children's father".
If they truly wanted to accurately report black father's behavior they would simply present the data (as in "x% of Black fathers report living with their children"), like they did for black mothers. Instead take black mothers' data and say that it "indicated" something about black fathers, which it really doesn't, and anyone with 2 braincells can figure out it doesn't. Lying with data is extremely easy, and it's actually hilarious that this weird contorted pindaric leap in logic is the most flattering way of presenting black fathers' behavior that they could come up with.
Whoever wrote this study has an obvious agenda and is counting on their readers being dumb enough not to see it. If you stepped out of this stupid us vs. them mentality for a moment, you would see this
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Holy fuck 24 hours of garbage posting. Here’s some lame nonmilky narcissism, number one how tf would a client apply contra videos to their therapy and healing, number two this just means his therapist is the ‘unconditional validation with no uncomfortable growth’ money grab variety
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He's been complaining about healthcare but gets upset when someone mentions HRT, like how dare they assume that a transwomen whining about healthcare, would be on HRT?
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Dude he's such an asshole to his fans lmfao. You don't have to love and be super nice to your fans, but if you do choose to go out and have interactions with them, don't be so dismissive and rude. Sometimes, yeah, maybe it's just British banter or whatever, but it often can't be construed as just that. He answers quite a few asks, but probably not nearly all of them, so his behavior isn't borne out of obligation to respond to all his fans.
image: a fan pours their heart out and Olly replies with a meme that's barely relevant
Also, it's pretty obvious that he's on HRT.
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And ofc he needs to claim that anyone who struggles to understand Butler is just willfully ignorant and probably a terf
"The move from a structuralist account in which capital is understood to structure social relationships in relatively homologous ways to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition, convergence, and rearticulation brought the question of temporality into the thinking of structure, and marked a shift from a form of Althusserian theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power."
I also enjoy the implication that terfs would use Butler's pwefered pwonouns.
the more i see into PT persona beyond the flashy videos the more i'm convinced that the falling out with Contra was not because of some great catalyst like an assault but was purely based on the fact that they're both insufferable pricks.
I wouldn't be surprised though if it also came down to PT being like "Guess what, my dear friend natalie, not only i'm a pop philosopher like you, not only i copied your whole style for videos, and not only i constantly signal to both of our fanbases that we are the bestest of friends and even something more, I TOO, am probably a trans woman!" which made Contra go "yeah fuck this" and cut all ties
In fairness to philosophy nerds, that's a particularly embarrassing sentence from a particularly embarrassing writer- it won a 'bad writing contest' in a popular philosophy journal in 1999. 1999 was kind of a bad year for Butler in general, since it's also when professor of parody, an epic takedown of her entire worldview that turned out to be pretty prescient about modern gender ideology in general, got published. Which kind of pours cold water on the idea that Butler being an bad writer is a terf
conspiracy, because I don't think the term had even been coined yet.
That said, Butler has kind of become a meme shorthand in GC circles for bad postmodern academic writing on gender, in the way that Andrea Long Chu's 'to be a woman is to be fucked in a hole' became shorthand for autogynophilia in academia. Which implies this guy lurks in GC spaces, ew.
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Or maybe, it was a calculated move on PT's part to dispel the correct
theory, and Contra gave it the stamp of approval out of guilt.
I mean, i really like ellis so i sure hope the fuck she wouldn't keep working with someone ifshe found out they're a rapist (considering she's also a victim
of sexual assault), but even from just a business point of view can you imagine the shitstorm it would be if it came out? I want to believe she's smarter than that. With PT being trans it would also be the perfect excuse not to call him back, "oh i didnt want to hurt her dainty feminine feelings by having her reprise male roles" or sm shit like that
In my experience, a lot of philosophy writing is frankly impossible to understand without something like a college course that explains the arguments in clear language & the rhetorical/historical context. Many texts are just not made to be understood outside that environment.
And also yeah, I agree that academia overall is mainly a circlejerk for wealthy narcissists without capacity for independent thought. And that's why a lot of it is so incomprehensible from the outside (including, incidentally, Butler).
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I don't entirely agree with >>1370597
, as I do think higher education can provide you with a great foundation and resources for studying philosophy. The vast majority of self-professed "philosophers" (especially pop philosophers) without a formal background in it clearly don't understand what philosophy is at even a basic level. (See: Stefan Molyneux)
However, the standards in most schools of philosophy are pitifully low for undergrads.
Philosophy undergrads are, far more often than not, complete brainlets. Liberal arts fields generally have pretty low standards for graduation, and this same bar is applied to philosophy, even though it should be much more rigorous than something like English literature, for the same reasons that biochemistry is generally a more difficult major than animal science.
Olly has a "Scottish MA," which is roughly equivalent to a bachelors. Granted, it's from a school with a highly-ranked philosophy department, but those sorts of rankings (especially in liberal arts and humanities) don't say much about the quality of the undergraduate education. The minimum required to graduate is probably still rather low. Any philosophy major worth their salt would either pursue a PhD or put their formal logic studies to use and become a programmer.
tl;dr I think higher Ed is important for studying philosophy, but most undergrad philosophy will give anybody capable of finishing a single essay a degree
My thoughts exactly.
An additional point: PT didn't even just pass the bare minimum requirements, but apparently got a First and graduated top of the class. Makes me wish I'd gone to study in the UK, apparently they require fuck all.
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Wow, really? The school he went to supposedly has a legitimately good philosophy program. In philosophy, it's often ranked top 10 worldwide.
Though many, many functional retards graduate with bachelor's in philosophy, I'm hard-pressed to believe that somebody as intellectually lazy as Olly could be such a high-achiever.
I found plenty of quotes from him claiming to have graduated at the top of his class, but has this been substantiated by any other sources?
If true, I'd have to reevaluate my opinion of him pretty heavily. This whole time, I thought he was just stupid, but could it be that he's a highly intelligent grifter narcissist?
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This shit is so emberassing, why make such a mockery of matters you want people to take seriously? It feels like he just wants to enjoy the controvery and outrage and shove himself into it rather than actually approach it with any sense of gravity.
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The Issue I have with a lot of breadtube essays is they over analyze shit that most people are aware is already dogshit
I don't need to watch lindsay ellis 8 hour analysis of transformers movies to understand that they objectify women
The question is why choose something so empty to review? Is this the most in depth analysis that these morons can offer?
cooperate approved by the numbers films written a week ?
That was not the intent of her michael bay videos lol, it was an excuse to teach academic language applied to transformers because that's funny (debatable) and bc trnsf are both very commercially driven but also very much Michael bay's movies.
Hate on her all u like but at least learn to undertand essays lmao
YouTube in general is full of pointless essays on Disney, revivals of old nostalgic franchises, mainstream popular fantasy/sci-if, and kids’ cartoons (especially “progressive” ones) because that’s pretty much all that zoomers watch. Zoomers are their target audience.
Talking about decent movies zoomers don’t care about = less YouTube subscribers and less Patreon money.
Zoomers would rather watch an hour long video with someone complaining about a lack of gay characters in Disney cartoons than watch an hour-long video about movies they’ve never heard of that do have gay characters.
Also, Peter Pan syndrome and all that.(sage)
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They all say it's ok to be
misogynistic if it's a woman they don't like (literally every female politician) but shit their pants if you apply the same logic to misgendering
The thing is breadtube didn't end the alt-right, Internet censorship did.
They have been removed from pretty much every major online space and deplatformed and either had to give up or go to incredibly obscure online domains with a couple thousand subscribes
and even then the alt-right was never a threat, a couple thousand morons online weren't gonna change anything for anyone
I can read and write just fine even though I didn't have a humanities major. And there have been plenty of authors and writers who never had tertiary education in the humanities. Do you think you need a MFA to be a good writer? >>1373042
Oh, so you're revealing yourself to be a spoiled kid who had college paid for by mommy and daddy. And nah, I never went to college. I make close to six figures without a college degree. I'm just giving good advice. Even a degree like nursing is a lot more useful to society than philosophy.
Yeah, and you don't need a degree to be a great programmer or mathematician if you actually have the passion for it, much like with anything humanities-related. Why are you changing the focus? You said those things are worthless, and now it's "W-well ok they're not worthless but you don't need a degree!"
No shit, degrees are for jobs and connections. It's just extra nice if you can study your passion and get even better, or train in something that truly makes you happy. 90% of the people making the world run aren't STEMfags, and the majority of people making the media you consume today went to uni or a performing arts school, got connected with others in that scene, and now here they are. Live in the real world for a change
Maybe for programming, no, you don't need to have a degree. Tech companies still spend a lot of time recruiting from top CS programs fwiw. Other STEM fields, you absolutely need a degree to get into besides networking. If you want to study math on your own, of course you don't need school, but if you actually want to be a professional mathematician there's no way around it.
If people are rich, they can do whatever they want. That's not a surprise. I guess it's nice that you were born rich so you could do whatever you wanted to.
>You said those things are worthless, and now it's "W-well ok they're not worthless but you don't need a degree!"
I never said humanities are worthless, just the degree. For someone who studied the humanities you sure can't read. kek Humanities degrees are absolutely cancer and where the tranny menace came from.
>>1373077>Maybe for programming, no, you don't need to have a degree. Tech companies still spend a lot of time recruiting from top CS programs fwiw. Other STEM fields, you absolutely need a degree to get into besides networking. If you want to study math on your own, of course you don't need school, but if you actually want to be a professional mathematician there's no way around it.
Can you find me all the famous historians, directors, musicians, etc who didn't go to college, specialized schools or have some other avenue for training and networking in their fields? Do you rage a little bit when you see that your psych has a degree, or that many of the people handling the logistical side of businesses have communications degrees?
Also, why would you assume I'm in (or went to) college, much less my degree after you just admitted you yourself never went? Maybe you should've gone after all, you might've picked up some critical thinking lol>If people are rich, they can do whatever they want. That's not a surprise. I guess it's nice that you were born rich so you could do whatever you wanted to.
Yeah, everyone who goes to college for things you don't like is rich, and you are poor, and also their education is useless anyway because you said so. Only humanities majors pay tuition fees, after all. Let's have a Lolcow pity party for seething born broke anon kek
>>1373082>Can you find me all the famous historians, directors, musicians, etc who didn't go to college, specialized schools or have some other avenue for training and networking in their fields?
Plenty of actors/artists/singers did not go to college, and a lot of them had rich parents so they would have been successful regardless of the degree. I would say most famous actors did not. Being a historian does require a degree, but these days you would have to be dumb to get a History PhD.
>Yeah, everyone who goes to college for things you don't like is rich, and you are poor, and also their education is useless anyway because you said so. Only humanities majors pay tuition fees, after all. Let's have a Lolcow pity party for seething born broke anon kek
Yes, it's called return on investment. That's why humanities majors end up broke and cry about the need for tuition forgiveness because they don't think money applies to them.
>Also, why would you assume I'm in (or went to) college, much less my degree after you just admitted you yourself never went? Maybe you should've gone after all, you might've picked up some critical thinking lol
Some of the stupidest people I've met were college graduates or even had graduate degrees. It matters jack shit. You are way too defensive over this.
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Well this just proves that breadtube has competently abandoned any sort of grievances regarding the class divide
also his retarded take regarding the Russian and Chinese revolutions is infuriating and peak of neo-modernist historical analysis, like I'm not defending the many many horrors the leaders of those regimes committed but the Russian and Chinese peasants didn't rise up against their previous systems cause they were "envious" of the bourgeoisie, they rose up cause they were starving and cold and living under literal feudalism and would have preferred anything over their previous system that felt like hell to them
He legit looks like Eminem in drag>>1373527
Yeah the people who like Vaush seem to be men or "Men who think they are women".
I honestly think Vaush isn't all that sexually interested in actual women, these people only care about what make their dicks hard. So troons, femboys and anything that shits on women.
Didn't he say it was a good thing that a pornsite changed the Troon category from Shemale? A long with all the weird disgusting shit he said about CP, he's just a disgusting scrote.
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these are the people who literally say that experiencing misogyny (as much as they can actually experience it) validates their gender delusions lol, of course they don't care. pic rel has 8.4k upvotes on r/traaaaaannnnsss or whatever it's called.
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Twice the length, same overall amount of content, and half the laughs– and only 50 days later, too!
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a lot of her longer videos tend to be written her "co-writer emily", I know this cause she mentions this exact phrase and in the exact same tone multiple times every fucking video, she also always mentions that "emily" is trans
Jenny really deserves better friends/colleagues. It must be exhausting to be surrounded by narcissists like Lindsay, PT, and Hontra all the time. I suppose you could say that means she might be a narc herself, but I really don't get that impression. In the kindest way possible, I think she might be autistic.
In the sea of two-hour videos about Marxism and trannies, it's refreshing to see Jenny's weird videos about the Hallmark channel or a stolen animatronic. It harkens back to the old days of vlogging where people didn't have to have a "theme.
She's like that one nerd that was mean to everyone because she thought she was better than everyone else. >>1386241>In the kindest way possible, I think she might be autistic.
Yeah. I really like her but it's strange how most of her personality is just being a consoomer.
Do we have any pictures of Cowriteremily? I can only find that stupid ginger cartoon avatar.
I imagine they are an obvious dorky moid.
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2/3 Chosen because the nails are bad and also he's trying to signal he's a "lesbian". This isn't a HSTS.
Apparently if the carpet matches the drapes ginger troons can't get electrolysis because their hair is too light
Are he and Sarah an item or what?
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3/3 His main interests are all very stereotypically moidish. Evangelion is the main one, but he also likes Berserk, Marvel comics, and DND. Sometimes he posts Animal Crossing screenshots, but it feels very performative.
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Bonus 4/3 pre-transition. I suppose he learned personal hygiene, at least. https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1438742767656706048>>1387071
Samefag but I found these, so I assume they're not a thing (breakup/distance). Unless they're poly and LDR, and Sarah's that much of a handmaiden/cuck. https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1459199986927874056https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1460762917436022788
by the accent, i think the country of origin is USA. The joke about duolingo is probably england being Terf
island and all
Holy shit nonnie
you just made me realize why i enjoy her content more than other "pop culture critically analyzed" kind of content creators. It's because she doesn't suddenly stop in her tracks to go on a 5-minute soapboax about gender identity or whatever.
Even her MLP video in which she talked about women in brony spaces, it doesn't feel like it's forced into the commentary. Her videos feels like a comfy detached reality from other "essay" youtubers
Zarah is definitely trying to encroach on Jenny's market; she's young, so she's still trying to be different yet cool, and Jenny is a profitable example of an outsider-mainstream success
zarah would be skinwalking her if she had any discernible style
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>>1389162>Sarah Z starts dating a male with pronouns
She's one step ahead of us as always:https://twitter.com/why_nathan>>1389166
Her profile says she/ they. Used to say 'any pronouns', so I guess she's going to change it up periodically to be irritating.
how old is he…..
he's clearly over 30 or pushing it, and she's 23… girl. GIRL.
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>>1389162>Hbomberguy transitions to Hbombergirl. Wears wig to cover tragic hairline.
It'd be hilarious if he changed his name to this, but I think it's more likely that he'll want to distance himself as much as possible from the fact that he actively identified with maleness before. If he does transition, I bet he'll change his username to something sickeningly, performatively girly like SapphicGamerQueenAlice
>Hontrapoints gets arrested for something drug or alcohol related. Mugshot becomes next threadpic.
This would be fucking hilarious, but I don't think Contra leaves the house enough to get caught on drug charges.
>Philosophytroon has mental breakdown, makes video about it.
I would be super surprised if this didn't
My predictions:>Thoughtslime goes she/her and starts wearing wigs>Philosophytube gets FFS and makes a video ripping off of Contra's "beauty" video>Philosophytube gets "canceled" on Twitter by fellow trans activists for something related to his obvious narcissism >Hasan endorses a product or charity that ends up being a complete scam>Vaush becomes psychologically dependent on adderall. He either discontinues using it and uses it as an anti-capitalist talking point ("adderall is prescribed to unhealthily extract superhuman amounts of labor from individuals!"), or he becomes obviously addicted and tweaks out harder and harder on stream as the 2022 progresses.
I think you're on point. My predictions:>Quinton latches onto whatever the teenage genderspecial girls are into in an obvious ploy for pussy points, retarded handmaidens eat it up (or maybe he's outed as a groomer kek)>Lindsay Ellis makes a semi-ironix joke about fujoshis, gets cancelled for "anti-transmasc rhetoric" for about two weeks before the TRA mob forgets about it and rewatches her videos about Transformers>Vaush makes a "joke" about finding a cat he lives with to be sexy>Hasan gets triggered by anti-rich sentiment at a protest and has a public freakout>Contra's Instagram posts become weirdly threatening/manipulative, but none of the libfems call it out because they think their discomfort is "internalized transphobia">PhilosophyTroon sends nudes to a fan>PhilosophyTroon tweets too bluntly about how evil lesbians are, and straight handmaidens feel their first twinge of peaking>JackSaint, a heterosexual white man from Britain, makes another video about racism/colonization in a movie made for children>Big Joel tweets about what a big dumb idiot some conservative politician is and how based Kamala Harris is in a very "I use reddit" way, his whole follower list claps>Contra peels himself away from his cocoon of messy makeup pallets, costumes, empty bottles, and Amazon packages formerly stuffed with Rogaine and Gillette shaving cream to walk to the nearest drug store so he can buy mouthwash and vodka, shits himself on the way out>Hbomberguy has a crisis of faith, but doubles down and goes Judge Claude Frollo>mycowriteremilywhoistrans has a mental breakdown over the fact that he's not getting any acknowledgement despite shilling himself out in all of Zarah's scripts and clearly being desperate to be considered "part of breadtube">Zarah makes a video about "cis women having privilege over trans women" after cowriteremily's breakdown, claiming their content is identical except for one being cis and one being trans>Zarah's boyfriend troons out, she's more than delighted to be able to falsely call herself a lesbian for woke cred (until the sex becomes shit for her)>Every token black member "strangely" remains in obscurity compared to their white counterparts, they blame the YouTube algorithm instead of the breadtube fanbase>Jenny laments that cigarettes killed Disney before she could talk to him about trains and then kill him herself
This won't happen until 2024 or later but Hbomberguy will try to get onto regular TV as a political comentator then within 3 months of his debut he'll get metoo'd, fired and go quiet
A year or two later a kiwifarms (if it's still around) user will find out that after it all blew over he ended up working in the marketing department of some horribly unwoke company
I find it amazing how loyal hbomberguy's fanbase is, for a dude who posts 2 videos a year and very rarely tweets; say what you will abt contra but at least they're active elsewhere and stream too, they try to keep, relevant is maybe not the word but you know, if you enjoy their content they keep you guessing it's maybe coming; harris is just like "oh btw here's 3 hours about antivaxxers, see you next christmas!".
Was there ever any substantial proof of him siding with the a b u s e r of his genderspecial friend, or was that a fart in the wind too?
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I want to believe the vegans would try to cancel Vaush over the horse cock discord posting, resulting in him doubling down and pulling out fellow horse penis aficionado yourmoviesucks' classic "If it's okay to eat animals it's okay to fuck them".
Sorry to go off on a tangent but often as Vaush says stupid shit, I’m starting to think he’s never going to actually get cancelled. At this point, at least a majority of the people who still watch him know he’s like this, it must be part of the appeal. To properly cancel him would probably require something more important than vegan discourse, like credible and shocking allegations of abuse or terfery. Even the “terf
rhetoric” complaints some of the gender specials have over him saying no trans people actually think sex isn’t real (lol) are pretty underground in Reddit comments and shit. White men get away with everything.
This clip from a few years back has made the rounds several times, and it's still not enough. Something of this magnitude would have to happen again.
I'm not gonna transcribe the full 3 minutes, but here's the juiciest quotes.>The left community online, particularly the LGBT community online, is cancerous as FUCK.>People are hyper-fragile. There's a ton– a TON– of mental illness. >Because it's coming from "THE GAYS," it's "woke," now! These people are less than human to me. I have no respect for them.>You don't have to be a psychologist to see that a large portion of the broader woketard cancel-culture idpol left is predicated on shared mental illness. This is particularly common in the trans community. If you disagree with me, you're wrong. >Pretty much every time I deal with dipshits from the left, it's transgirls.
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Contrapoints siding with male rapists over women. (1/2)
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The article that Rowling retweeted, expressing concerns over crimes committed by males being reported as being committed by females (2/2)
i know you guys hate trans people, i'm not going into it cus i don't care, you do you.
But what's the harm in logging a rapist trans woman as a woman? "Vaginaed" women rape too, gender identity is no factor in wether you're a saint or not.
I dunno i understand how you can find Contra grating, but they're not wrong here(tranny bait)
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This is probably bait but I'm responding anyways.
Rape is overwhelmingly committed by males. Or "bepenised people," if you prefer.
Reframing the issue of rape as a gender issue instead of a sex one by classifying rapists according to their gender obscures the actual issue at hand.
I'm not full terf
or anything, either. For example, trans women are (generally) at higher risk of being raped than cis men. Gender is a undeniably a factor in rape. But refusing to look at sex is very reductive. Ignoring sex also means you can't get a truly intersectional view of these sorts of issues, which is a pillar of liberal feminism.
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Idk if this person is technically a part of breadtube, but I've heard him described that way. It's Ro Ramdin. He makes videos on YouTube but really got started on TikTok. I actually like his videos quite a bit. His writing is very witty and sharp imo, but there was something bothering me that I couldn't put my finger on. Other than him being an obvious AGP who loves people calling him a cute girl a little too much despite being over 6ft tall with the face and body of a man twice his age.
Then I figured it out! He is praised for his humour and writing, which while admittedly good, he rips off almost all of it from Chris Fleming. Am I the only one who sees that? Everything from the types of jokes, to the delivery, to the ugly hair and fashion masquerading as androgyny (not me trying to roast Chris, I love his stuff but it's true lol)…even some of the funny voices he puts on for bits are clearly inspired by Chris. One of them was straight up just a Gayle impression. He gives me weird vibes, but is generally funny enough for me to not think about it too long. Surprised to learned he's only 20
Im not so familiar with chris fleming to agree or disagree w you, but i also know that it's pretty normal to star being heavily inspired by a singular style and the more you grow, you develop into your own. Let the kid be.
Btw is chris fleming some shade of lgbt? The only thing i can find is him mentioning a girlfriend and saying he's feminine bc he grew up surrounded by females, but i dunno if that translates with him being bi/pan and nonbinary
Fair enough. He is still very young. I guess I'm just used to people in the comedy scene not hesitating at all to point out if someone is ripping off someone else's style. Perhaps it's a little annoyance/jealousy at people acting like he's a comedic genius doing never before done comedy when…well it's been done before>>1394374
I've heard Chris refer to himself as queer, but never explicitly as a woman or nonbinary so I'm not completely sure. He's clearly just a weird looking straight dude and I don't think he tries to spin that into a social/political identity too much
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To the surprise of nobody Vaush turns out to be uber privileged
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Your telling me that he was the son of a Hollywood executive and still asks for donations on Twitch, despite living in his parent's basement and them presumably taking care of all his finances and I thought I couldn't hate him anymore
Look at Harry Partridge, he also grew up rich(he was the son of a British pop-star) he admits that he afford to be a perfectionist animator is cause of his father's money and so he doesn't have a Patreon or ask for donations
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These are his parents, I don't know if their shitty people or not but no one deserves to have a child grow up to be like Vaush
I don't know, they seem kinda normal and even if they were assholes they still shouldn't have to deal with Vaush, also while there isn't much on mommy vaush expect some shitty Indie docs from the 2000's(vidrel), his dad seems pretty accomplished in Hollywood https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0462513/>>1395036
maybe not Spielberg money but judging from how many big movies he's worked on(Hellboy, Matrix, The Last Samurai) their defiantly above upper-middle class
I think vaush said his dad did the visual effects editing and such, I remember because my dad did the same thing until he retired recently. My dad hated talking about the kind of money he made but he wrote something in the 300k+ a year range on some of my uni paperwork. I know he got a shit ton in stocks on top of that, but I can’t say on the specifics. He used to go to events that might have been like the one here >>1394504
, I was a kid so I don’t know exactly, but I don’t think he has any singled out photos like that, so Vaush’s dad is probably a step up from where mine was. Either way, it’s more than good money, even when paying Beverly Hills prices, and you definitely have contact with lots of people in the industry. A lot of the guys my dad worked with were able to put their kids in stuff for commercials and background extras and all that, kickstart those kinds of careers if they had no care for the damage caused by letting your kid exist around schneider types lol
Sorry for blogging but hopefully someone found it helpful
Shanspeare is kinda like that too. I actually think she has a lot of potential but I really can't take her seriously when she uses places like the school of life as a source. Her research skills seem really poor and she doesn't seem to have a good understanding of what kinds of texts are credible, very much a "source: Wikipedia" type.
I know it might sound snobby but it seems crazy to me that so many people that have no real academic background and clearly don't understand the basic tenets of essay research/writing are so confident to make "educational" content.
Also did anyone else catch that in her daddy issues video she called Freud an American?? Basically the whole video was about Freud's ideas and she didn't even know that he was Austrian, or even European lol
who are you talking about?
Also, even if i wanted to believe Lindsay is a complete sociopath who in one video is bestie with contra and the other collabs with PT, even if the former assaulted the latter, I don't see why Contra would keep in touch with Lindsay.
Usually the easiest answer is also the correct one, and i just think PT and Contra fell out of friendship and Lindsay is not their child they have to share custody of, but a full grown woman who can be still friends with both. That's how adult relationships go.
i think anon is referring to Todd in the Shadows collaborator making out with Kyle Kalgreen fiancèe. She said he assaulted her, he says she has been coming onto him for months and they eventually kissed. Lindsay, Todd and unspecified others defended Collaborator (can't remember the name), Fiancèè was livid and saw the Great Ellis Cancellation as an excuse to stir shit.
I dunno it's very boring.
Bottom line, meh, it's interpersonal drama and i wouldn't go as far as to classify a quick kiss they both immediately regretted as rape, it doesn't make me think less of Lindsay.
It's incredibly unlikely that PT assaulted Contra, they dated for over a year and were friends up until a month or so after PT publicly trooned out.
Idk much about Lindsay but I do judge Lindsay for being so close with Hontra, especially since Hontra sexually harassed a radfem by sending her porn.
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I never said it was violent porn but tickle porn is still porn. He uploaded it and sent it to a radfem (Terri Strange) to harass her because she was against porn. He even admitted to it in a video
1. Where's your evidence that "they dated for over a year"?
2. They definitely weren't still friends when PT came out publically, Contra completely ignored the announcement and refused point-blank to discuss it when a fan brought it up. Doesn't seem like they were friends to me.
I still don't think PT is the one who assaulted Contra though, I just think your supposed facts need some examination.
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They were still friends. PT replied to one of Contra's tweets a few days before he publicly trooned out. They had a falling out later. As for evidence they dated look through PT's kiwifarms thread. PT was "Chad" and they were traveling to see one another throughout late 2018 and 2019
The person being referred to here is Jourdain Searles, she made a long tweet thread after lindsay deleted her twitter, basically saying what >>1399331
said, she was kissed by someone in the friend group, didn't feel like her feelings were respected bc she was a black woman in a group of white friends, which tbh could be true but could also just be an over-reaction, we only get her side of the story. I don't think being kissed without being asked first is such a big deal, but without the context it's tough to say. it doesn't have anything to do with CA afaik. here are the caps, https://cometcrystal.tumblr.com/post/648560091132575744/some-food-for-thought
sorry i can't be arsed to upload them all here right now>>1399610
nta but PT replying to contra is not proof that they were friends. I highly doubt they were even civil at that time since contra was talking about "that person" not being "in my life anymore" pretty directly after the transition announcement. if there were caps of them actually interacting (as in Contra responding to one of PT's tweets) that would be proof, but Tube had been replying to her tweets only to be politely ignored for months iirc
It's not their word, they have tons of screenshots and archives of evidence that they dated>>1399646
The "that person" incident was in March, a couple months after PT publicly came out. They livestreamed together in the middle of 2020 and they were still interacting publicly up until Feb 2021 so it seems likely that whatever happened between them happened after then.
Contra's thread sucks mostly, I was talking about PT's thread. Here's a small compilation from Contra's #1 stalker though: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/breadtube.54697/page-255#post-8247574
And one post, out of many on their relationship together, from the PT thread:https://kiwifarms.net/threads/philosophy-tube-oliver-lennard-oliver-olly-thorn-abigail-thorn.87375/page-88#post-9619700
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I hadn't heard of this chick until I saw this pop up in my recommendations the other day. I was pretty excited to watch this, but I came out really disappointed by her analysis and commentary.
It's not until 5 minutes into the video that she finishes the disclaimers and advertisements and begins talking about the show itself.
don't get me wrong. there's a lot of things to hate about the Biggest Loser. But a lot of her criticisms feel off-target.
>puts emphasis on the weirdest points.
she brought up that the weights displayed during the dramatic weigh-ins were actually taken on a real scale ahead on time. she states this a few times. but this is just super normal "filming a tv show" stuff. Nothing problematic
. >repeats the "fatphobia is just repackaged racism" meme >Does the "omg I'm so bad at math!!!" thing when she's trying to describe the BMI calculation. Then, despite bragging about her lack of understanding, condemns BMI unilaterally anyways. >claims to understand 2000's diet culture even though she was born in 1998.
Then she turns around and uses quote in picrel to talk about how toxic
the show's attitude was. But… people genuinely were very judgmental of fat people in the 2000's. The show's premise wasn't incorrect. >tells 50 of the most boring and mundane personal anecdotes
I didn't do a full rewatch just now, so I'm largely working from memory and clicking through. Im not sure, but I think she also accused My 600-lb Life of arbitrarily forcing "contestants" to lose weight solely for entertainment purposes, when any responsible doctor IRL would do the same before giving someone a gastric bypass surgery.
I just have a ton of minor nitpicks like this. But imo, all these little mistakes add up and indicate that Jordan Theresa is a bullshitter.
These two videos were just very uninformed, biased, and full of uninteresting fluff. The channel "We're in Hell" does this sort of content much better, even though I find the host somewhat unlikable and terminally leftie-brained.
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Why does it take her three hours to get to a single point? And why does everything have to be awful- full of complaints about racism and homophobia in the original movie (which was taken out of the musical) without any acknowledgement that.. Yeah that was the point? No it isn't PC to call someone a dyke but they were high school bullies, that's pretty tame to say. Sarah and Co writer Emily were really grasping at straws with this one.. Complaining about random lines from songs they didn't particularly enjoy, insulting the source material but then also saying its iconic and brilliant and so quotable.
Of course all the comments are equally as dramatic and insufferable.
No, go on, nonny
. How has being perceived as underweight affected your career and social life?
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Don’t get me wrong nonna, I’m not waahwaahing about how I’m having it harder than fat women, I’m just pointing out that being underweight will get you the same kind of remarks and assumptions. The main difference inbetween skinny shaming and fat shaming is that one is systematic while the other isn’t. A thing that I noticed recently is that it’s ok for sickly underweight women to have their own community based upon their ED, it’s even known to be therapeutic and help with their illnesses, but as soon as fat or obese women try to do the same and have their own, it’s deemed as cringe and harmful.>>1400463
I will spare you with the trivial school bs such as being questioned when you eat something too enthusiastically at lunch and being called in the school office for “welfare check”, at school I had to justify and go into full sperg mode all the time. I resigned from my first job due to rumors about my weight; a team of middle-aged women didn’t believe that I had Crohn’s and spread the idea in the office that I was lying about it and had an ED. Their “proof” was that I kept going to the toilets (to allegedly make myself throw-up) while I just had frequent bowel movements and had to use the shitter a lot. It got to the point where I considered either shitting myself or drag one of them to the toilets after using kek; not like it would have done anything since I’m sure that they knew, deep down, that I wasn’t lying. They just weaponized their pseudo motherly-concern as an excuse to bully. The biggest drawback social wise is the kind of moids you attract (I know it’s also the case for fat women), skinny fetishists are either full-fledged dom psycho with a control obsession or just straight up pedos.
I agree with most of your criticism but I don’t think it’s as big a stretch to say she might understand 2000s diet culture at her age. Growing up with older sisters or too much tv exposure definitely did the trick for plenty of girls her age.>>1400189
Being even 10 pounds overweight when I was younger was a million times harder than being 20 pounds underweight. I was treated worse at my most athletic/healthy for being just a little larger than I ever was when you could count every bone down my spine, and I’m probably treated best at the 5-10 pounds underweight that I’ve been at for the past few years. While I do get the occasional comment because of my digestive disorder, like >>1400735
mentioned, people still respect my dietary issues way more when I’m thin. ngl tho ladies I do know a lot of girls who get ED paranoia and think everyone is attacking them for being skinny, I think that’s the real problem there.
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"According to internal documents, Valent plans to design a “mass appeal social media campaign fronted and owned by prominent social media figure Abigail Thorn,” the founder of Philosophy Tube. Valent’s research on British citizens who reject official policy on COVID-19 “will be used to devise a campaign that utilises YouTuber Abigail Thorn’s existing platform to achieve a measurable cognitive shift in the target audience,” the files state."
Now this is interesting. Breadtube figures were already pro-vaxx, but what is it about British Restrictions that makes the government want to push for more propaganda about it online?
Can anyone from the UK elaborate?
That sounds really fucking retarded. What a waste of psy op money. Seriously, who in Britain gives a single solitary fuck about PhilosophyTroon? No normal British person has heard of them or gives two fucks what they think.
They would literally be better off paying high ranking figures at the BBC - television presenters and stuff, not some fucking tranny YouTube loser.
It's ridiculous to say that fat people aren't discriminated against in the US. This is most true for matters of employment. There are massive stereotypes that fat people are lazy and stupid. And honestly? Those stereotypes, in my experience, are wayyyy more true than racial stereotypes.
I've known very hardworking fat people. I've known very lazy skinny people. But overwhelmingly, fat people make significantly worse employees.
(And, I've never known a hardworking morbidly obese person.)
Am I prejudiced against fat people? Absolutely. I recognize my bias, blah blah, but the hard truth is that this attitude is held by many, many people in the US, especially by the sorts of people in positions to make hiring decisions. And most managers are not actively trying to correct their biases against fat people, especially since fat people isn't a protected class. >>1401540
This is absolutely true, too. A lot of the hate for fat people is likely just hatred for visibly poor/uneducated people.
are you going to sperg blame this forum for triggering
your your eeeting disordur binge now because nobody gives a shit.
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>>1401327>what is it about British Restrictions that makes the government want to push for more propaganda about it online?
They need to keep mandating the sales of their endless testing and vaccines nonnie>>1401446>Seriously, who in Britain gives a single solitary fuck about PhilosophyTroon? No normal British person has heard of them or gives two fucks what they think.
That is what the article is pointing out and the reason the word 'astroturfed' is applied here. PT being rolled out as a 'voice of the lgbtq community' two days after his transition is a clear example astroturf.
I don't know, whole thing doesn't seem very believable. I read quickly through the "leaked document" and it's kinda weird. It refers to PT as both "Oliver" and "Abigail" which doesn't seem very professional, and also claims that the final outcome will be " Mass appeal social media campaign fronted and owned by prominent social media figure Abigail
Thorn" which doesn't seem to have materialized despite it being nearly a year since it was written, i haven't even noticed PT coming out particularly strongly in favor of vaccines or govt mandates (no more than the average online leftie anyway). it also doesn't exactly seem like a good strategy as its very much preaching to the choir, the people attending anti-vax protests and breaking lockdown rules aren't the same people sitting at home watching breadtube, it even seems to weirdly acknowledge that in the document; "Viewers on Thorn’s channel, Philosophy Tube, are mostly between 18 and 35. As the existing research suggests, the most prolific consumers of pseudoscience material are 45 plus." I can't tell if the fact that it's hideously badly written is a sign that it's fake, or if briefing documents are always like that.
Also one of the main references in the article is to Caleb Maupin, who notably has a pretty big axe to grind against the whole subject of "breadtube". imho there's a chance the document is real, I don't put it past slimy PT to take on a project like this, but i don't think it was ever carried out either way. >>1399910
i like her but it annoys me how many of her videos she starts of with a definition from urban dictionary. i understand it can be useful for laying out the common understanding of a niche term, but it's starting to seem a bit like a crutch. I don't know anything about her background but she also seems to be a lot less obnoxiously posh than a lot of the other brits discussed here, which is refreshing
Every time someone's legitimacy to fame and expertise seems to have been completely fabricated out of nowhere it's almost certainly because it is there, and there will be all kinds of incentives to do so, usually financial. It happens all the time in the music industry for example. I don't get why it is retarded to understand that.
The anony was right saying that PT hasn't been particularly outspoken in favor of vaccines etc. but he is one of many that contributes to the framing of all covid measures and restrictions as totally normal, acceptable, unsuspicious, and to think otherwise is moronic or 'right-wing'.
If not for covid he will just be used in the future as a talking head in favour of pushing more mandatory funding for the NHS to purchase trans related 'med care'.
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Lindsay Ellis has officially quit YouTube https://www.patreon.com/posts/60406124
TLDR she was traumatized by being cancelled earlier this year and she really doesn't hold back
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The essay she links and quotes was written by Porpentine, the tranny coombrain who created picrel. The headless woman on a leash is named "Pink Rubber Animal," and she does all the housework for her tranny "owner," who also fucks the hole on her severed-neck-stump. Needless to say, this writer is a deeply sick, misogynistic person even by tranny standards.
Is this is the sort of content creator Lindsay looks up to, then good fucking riddance. One fewer handmaiden grooming women online is a good thing. Hopefully she'll peak now that she doesn't have to pimp her tranny friends' mental illness to appeal to her tranny and handmaiden fanbase.
She never flat-out says but yeah, it seems to be about that and everything surrounding it.
She also says she wanted to quit YouTube for a while as it was becoming a chore, but this was the push she needed.
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Right before she quit she made this comment on a Tom Scott post, urging him to delete a recent coloration Vid he did with Jill Bearup(an awesome Youtuber who talks about fight choreography and female armor) all cause Jill is a dreaded "TERF
This is so condescending and borderline threatening. The fuck business is it of hers who he associates with?
It's rich to me that Lindsay writes this sob story about how internet lynch mobs ruin people's lives hot off the heels of participating in one like this. She fails to realize that this sort of behavior, while it occurs all over the internet, is used more frequently but SJWs than by anyone else. I've never seen a group as eager to "cancel" someone and start a pile-on as they are. They're the exact people who "cancelled" her, and she still aligns herself with them. What the fuck is it going to take for her to stop cow-towing to these people?
This is why you should never, ever ingratiate yourself to the Twitter hoard. Nothing is ever enough for them, and they waited on bated breath for people to misstep so they can break out the torches on pitchforks. The only way to prevent yourself from getting crab-bucketed is to avoid these people all together and ignore whatever whiny grievances they might have with you. You paint a target on your back the moment you log on to Twitter and help them harass someone.
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Annnnnnd she's put it behind a paywall. As if the bestselling author money and Nebula + YT revenue weren't enough.
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Don't worry, already screencapped it
even in her last goodbye she still throws blood at the sharks. She just can't get the memo that when you get cancelled you're supposed to just ignore it, and it won't hurt you. Let your ego go and stop caring that a bunch of retards think you're a terf
Wow, so writing a Tumblr post condemning a transwoman for punching a 60 year old lady for having problematic
beliefs is a cancellable offense - not only for the writer of the post herself but anyone who dares to associate with her, even if they were unaware of said post. But this shit >>1403056
is perfectly fine, and totally not evidence of blatant misogyny fetishized to the most horrific extent. Hilarious that Lindsay made a video about how horrible it is that transwomen are always portrayed as creepy serial killers. Hmm I wonder why that is. And she really expects us to feel sorry for her for being a victim
of the very behavior she continues to encourage against others. Good riddance
She made that post 5 years ago(that was her one and only political related post) and she still deleted it for who knows what reason(probably cause she doesn't talk much about politics and didn't wanna cause drama) and they still cancelled her for it
other then that she uses Mumsnet(a British mom forum) which is also a cancellable offense
You can't win with these bastards
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I love when both sides of an argument are totally hateable.
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I didn't follow anything about her book but haha, holy shit she's full of herself. I bet this is a pity stunt to boost book sales now that her dweebs got some xmas money.
>>1403168>my life ended nine months ago
seriously though i don't dislike Lindsey and i think putting her content behind a paywall might be a smart idea at this point. However the way she has been reacting to/ writing about what was essentially just a knock to her online reputation really stinks of someone who is not in a mentally healthy place and probably has a lot of other baggage they need to deal with. I hope she puts some serious effort into her mental state bc just retreating into a hugbox is not going to solve whatever problems she's having
>>1403168>My favorite are the people who dismiss any potential harm I might have incurred as justified because I am a "wealthy, white woman", while these same people's hearts positively bleed for Britney Spears.
Yes Lindsay, taking what you dish out is EXACTLY the same as being a victim
of reproductive coercion, medical malpractice, and financial exploitation.
It must be humiliating for her to know that her writing skills and emotional maturity pale in comparison to that of an evil TERF
>>1403406>Waaah you're appropriating twans suffering
Jesus Christ, I don't side with Lindsay at all and I still managed to understand what her purpose was in quoting that article better than this sped. She was trying to make a (hypocritical) point about internet dogpiles in feminist circles and the person she quoted happened to be a tranny. It's not "appropriating" his "struggles," it's just her quoting an article she agreed with.
Honestly, if it was being said by someone less hypocritical and didn't cape for trannies, I'd agree with most of what she had to say. Shame she didn't walk away with the obvious lesson of "don't engage with the mob," instead choosing to take her ball and go home, screwing over her collaborators in the process.
Maybe it's just my perception, but I swear Lindsay didn't used to be this fragile. Early on she was actually kind of irreverent.
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Doug Walker wins again
People have been telling Doug Walker to literally kill himself for nearly 2 decades and the guy just keeps living his best life.
SJWs criticized a couple times and your second book did worse than the first and now. That’s it.
>“My life ended nine months ago”
like get a grip.
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Sage for OT. Decided to do some research on porpentine and holy fuck I wish I hadn’t. People are mad that Lindsay is “appropriating a trans woman’s struggle” and not that she’s quoting a misogynistic lunatic? This is the most abhorrent of his work from as far back as I was willing to scroll.
Apparently he’s gotten a Creative Capital grant and is part of the Sundance New Frontier Story Lab Fellowship? Glad to know the future of storytelling lies in the hands of people who write and publicly share zines called things like RuneScape Teen Brothel. Maybe if I go the kikomi-chan route and start writing MSPaint diaries about my drug trips they’ll give me money too.
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a summarization for the events that led up to this for those not caught up yet
>about a year ago she made a tweet comparing Raya to Avatar>Twitter get mad and accused her of stereotyping all Asian media as being the same >She came back then tried to explain herself and just used a poor choice of words>Twitter get madder>She deactivated her account for a while>Meanwhile people connected with her are all around Twitter and her stand got into arguments with people upset at Lindsay and claimed they were all White Males or something, and claimed Lindsay wasn't actually canceled and these were just trolls attacking her >Mara Wilson liked tweets shitting on Lindsay and Lupa called her out and claimed Mara was lying about anything she was saying about Lindsay, even though Mara never referred to Lindsay by name>Months later, right after her friend Dan Olsen does a video criticizing Doug Walker's The Wall review a year late, Lindsay came back with a 2 hour video about how she was canceled, also confirming that Mara Wilson was talking about her>Meanwhile rumors start spreading that her books aren't selling well and that people in the industry hate her>Then in October she made an instagram post about how 2021 was the worst year she's had>Then just now she posted a tweet telling Tom Scott to take down a video because it featured Jill Bearup, someone Twitter canceled because they believed her to be a "Terf" >After that she posted up a huge goodbye post on Patreon, and her followers complained about internet mobs>Then she went on Twitter and Quote Tweeted someone calling her a "whack bitch" and her followers went after the tweeter
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that tweet just only created some minor outrage, if she ignored it and just let thing be everyone would have forgotten about it, but she doubled down and then her stans started getting into arguments
eventually some of her "#problematic
" tweets came out, most of them were benign jokes about films she was watching and her dumb takes, tweets like >there's probably slave play fan-fic of Harriet Tubman and her owner >tweets supporting James Gunn>comments she made about Zack Snyder(during this period the internet was starting to like Zack Snyder cause he casted a black woman as Iris and called out some rightwing podcast for being racist pricks)
and other pointless shit, honestly Its her own damm fault, she'd never win the woke crowd cause nothing is good enough for them
I didn't even like Raya, I thought it was a shitty film that pandered too much to China, but it really wasn't much like Avatar at all, beyong being Asian-inspired, for young people, involving some level of war, and trying to redeem its young, troubled villain. It isn't something to cancel someone over, but it does bring into question her credibility in speaking about media.>>1403943
Lindsay is further proof that Breadtube and the leftysphere is actually a bunch of edgy retards who enjoy bullying people with a fresh coat of paint. "Transphobia", "queerphobia", and "colonizer thinking" are just the excuses that people who would have just called you ugly or a faggot in 2008 use to tear down other people who don't validate their insecure privileged asses. She's not funny, talented, or cool, she's a fucking loser.>>1403959>>1404002
Hard agree. I didn't even know she IDed as bi, since AFAIK she always only went after men and is now married to one. She never seemed to show any attraction to women, either, IMO. Meanwhile, I can't find any information regarding Mara Wilson's relationship history or anything, but one site I found said that she's only had 1 relationship and they don't even know who it is. They're giving off incredible fake bi bully vs fake bi loser energy.
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Surprised no one's talked about the title of her essay
Its a reference to the the one who walks from Omelas, a short story by Ursula K. Le Guin
its about a wonderous, peaceful and perfect utopian city, however the continued prosperity of the city requires an innocent child to be endlessly tortured, and while most of the citizens come to accept the torture of the child as a fact of life for the good of all, a "few" do leave the city and end up never returning again
I'm assuming the cyberbulling by twitter users is her endless torture and misery
I know she's probably referring to cancel culture (which doesn't even apply to her, since people still watched her and didn't disown anyone around her), but she's accidentally on point. Breadtube does
sacrifice children's safety and happiness for their own purposes. Does anyone remember Hbomberguy's stream that he donated everything it earned to Mermaids? Anyway, Lindsay isn't a child, she's a woman in her 30s who said a lot of stupid shit and got backlash for being an idiot while also pandering to a perpetually unsatisfied audience.
samefag I should have mentioned in the story In the story, the people who walk away from Omelas gave up all their wealth and privileges because it came at the cost of someone's suffering.
But Lindsay isn't walking away because someone else is suffering. She's leaving because it's causing her suffering and she doesn't have to give up any of her wealth or social standing among most of breadtube, She still has a hugely successful youtube channel and like 90% of her fanbase supports her unconditionally
AYRT And I assumed as much, even if I didn't make that clear. She isn't giving up anything, other than attention, and the audience she has is a group of hyperconsumers who would readily accept her back if she changed her mind. There is no victim
, nor is there any sacrifice. Her lack of analytical skills and martyr complex are so obvious, she may as well have highway billboards.
She identifies as a feminist and uses mumsnet(which can be pretty based at times)
she could be a feminist christian at least ?
ntayrt but the idea that sexual orientation isn't valid
unless you've dated or slept with someone is so stupid. you think thirteen year olds who haven't had their first kiss yet can't tell who they're attracted to? you think incels who love to self proclaim as "kissless, hand-holdless virgins" aren't verifiably attracted to women because they haven't been with one?
Being attracted to =/= facing the consequences of homophobia in the case of bi people. You can live your whole life without facing homophobia in the way a gay person does, even if you secretly also feel attracted to the same sex. It's still valid
, but I can't sit here and pretend someone who only ever claims to be bi without ever acting on homosexual attraction isn't just straight passing.
It's amazing that there are actual real people who gaybait their friends and fanbases. Even more amazing is how many of them are in their 30s. Imagine being twice as old as the teenagers who are expected to act like this, still never having committed in any way to any potential homosexual attraction you may have felt, and still pretending you're somehow a noteworthy and valid
example of LGB people.
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There aren't actually any pictures of her husband, in fact if you try to google "Lindsay Ellis Husband/Partner" all you get is a bunch of her soyboy male friends
Her real husband(whose only known detail is that he goes by Nick) is not fond of internet attention so there's no literally photos of him, I think the "My wife" tweets were to trick the search algorithm
Anyway next potential thread pic
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This is what her husband looks like
Bahaha I hope she gets triggered
hard every time she sees even a vague reference to that movie for the rest of her life. If she ever actually has a kid I dearly hope that ends up being their favorite film
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Turns out Lindsay has a personal history with Jill Bearup, the cringy vampire chick >>1407321
is also involved
Where'd that rumor come from? I've never heard it before.
Lindsay herself admitted the rift between them happened because she (during a private in-person discussion) glibly implied Mara is a fake bisexual attention seeker. That's basically it. Lindsay is a judgemental bitch while Mara is insecure and passive-aggressive about it, so they didn't get along and stopped being friends.
Fans were able to piece the drama together long before then, based entirely off of Mara's vague subtweeting and like history. It definitely added some extra fuel to the cancellation fire.
Dunno, someone on here said so.
Lindsay is not only judgemental but incredibly stupid, how naive can you be to "invalidate someone sexuality" (aka pointing out that thinking boobs are hot sometimes and then costantly dating guys and seeking only male's validation doesn't necessarily make you bisexual) and thinking it wouldn't bite you in the ass later, especially with someone as terminally online as mara who the only thing she's got going on was that she was in some movies 25 years ago
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I will link you up the Goodreads page for her first flop- I mean book. This review summarizes it pretty well. Basically, the book is badly written Transformers fanfiction. The second books is also pretty bad judging by the Goodreads reviews.
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I love how Lindsay is now a failed author who got cancelled by the left, harassed off of twitter, and forced into retirement due to a catastrophic mental breakdown while humiliating herself on the way out. And most people don't feel sorry for her. She just comes off as a whiny, entitled hypocrite.
That's literally everything she wished would happen to JK Rowling and put a lot of effort into trying to make happen. It's all so richly deserved.
This idiot could have learned her lesson the first time and stopped running her mouth on twitter or participating in stupid online behavior. She should have chosen to focus on improving her (increasingly disappointing) content, breaking her social media addiction, and not obsessing over what retards on twitter say about her. She would have bounced back just fine and quickly given how fucking pointless the thing was that set off her cancellation to begin with. So many of her "sins" discussed in the 'mask off' video were nothing but petty rumors or a wild misrepresentation of obviously sarcastic comments. She didn't really have to dignify it with such a lengthy response.
Instead she chose to descend further into victimhood with alcoholism, defensiveness, and self-pity. Now everything she's ever done is tainted by her blatant narcissism.
At least she still has the hot dogs gif. No one can take that away from you, Linds.
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In Lindsay's political circles, even heterosexual relationships can be "queer". Like >>1407309
said, she probably considers herself bi because she's been attracted to penis-havers who aren't considered men, whether trans or nonbinary.
I have a suspicion that her friendship with Contrapoints started as a one-sided crush on her part. Sexual orientation is innate, a straight female is going to be attracted to a man she likes no matter what he identifies as. Too bad for her Hontra is into other men. They stayed friends because they're both giant narcs who enjoy acting like bitchy mean girl bullies.
I also think her crush on him is why she capes so hard for tranny stuff. Her hate for JKR comes off as weirdly personal for someone who is neither trans herself nor has ever been a Harry Potter fan.
I don't think she would have ended up like this without CP's influence. Whiteknighting for him over issues like gamergate and gender crit stuff seemed to be what pushed her into becoming a full-blown obnoxious SJW. In her nostalgia chick days she was always kind of an edgelord. It's so funny that she somehow became this internet media feminist icon worshipped by politically correct snowflakes. She really should have known pandering to that crowd would eventually backfire HARD on someone like herself.
Contra is straight. He IDed as bi briefly after transitioning because AGPs often have early "women are just holes to pleaure men" stints before remembering they're only sexually attracted to women and IDing as "lesbians". He's mentioned being a "lesbian" (straight man) multiple times since then. Also Lindsay is married, and has been for awhile. See >>1405233
posted June 10, 2021. She's been married to some other moid for 3 and a half years. Blaming Contra for Lindsay being a misogynistic handmaiden is a fool's errand, because she's always been a "bisexual" (100% hetero) NLOG who has been willing to throw other people under the bus for her own profit, especially if those people aren't bepenised. Also, Contra is too genuinely retarded and coombrained to have that much control over any adult aside from a BPD scrote with terminal brain fungus like PT/Olly.
Didn't he publically date some men, including PhilosophyTube prior to PT trooning out? The only "women" he's mentioned having serious relationships with are other transwomen. Even in the 'Shame' video where he mansplains female sexuality to the audience, the object of his "lesbian" obsession is another troon. So at best he's a bisexual chaser with a big trap fetish.
Lindsay being married doesn't make any of my suspicions implausible, either. I bet a lot of her bullshit is subconscious, she lacks self-awareness to a ridiculous degree.
>Blaming Contra for Lindsay being a misogynistic handmaiden is a fool's errand, because she's always been a "bisexual" (100% hetero) NLOG who has been willing to throw other people under the bus for her own profit, especially if those people aren't bepenised.
Yeah, I completely agree with you there and that wasn't a defense of Lindsay as though she's the helpless victim
of his manipulation. I stated outright I think they're both narc bullies and generally awful people, and that Lindsay has always been an edgelord (female edgelords tend to be NLOGs by default).
That being said, I think her attachment to Contra helped turned her into this particular kind of libfem NLOG. I remember even during the early days of her tumblr she expressed a lot of annoyance with social justice warriors. But eventually it turned out to be profitable to pander to that audience and she had the connections through CP, so there was every incentive to keep up the grift.
He didn't publicly date PT, and it's unclear if they were ever a thing or if Olly just really wanted it to be. His relationship with other men is really unclear, but he seems mostly interested in hooking up with women, and has posted before about how it's hard for him to find a partner as a transbian, so I assume he's not T4T. As I said, he probably went into the usual porn-induced fit of pseudo-bisexuality right after trooning out, and tried to date/fuck other men because he viewed women primarily as "things to be fucked by men", so being fucked by a man would be the "ultimate euphoria". Of course, it doesn't tend to work out, since AGPs like him are heterosexual, so he went back to only going for women. This is very common for AGP troons, and some of them do go "prison gay" with their fellow AGPs, but they primarily want real women, which is why they seethe so much about "TERFy lesbians". As for the "Lindsay has a crush" tinfoil, I just don't buy it. She doesn't seem any more attached to him than she does any of her other/previous business partners, which is to say that she acts friendly, but could easily discard him to save her own ass or make money. I just don't see why she would bother with feelings for Nick when she's already married to a man with a functioning dick and (hopefully) far less baggage, unless she's looking for an excuse to fall further into alcoholism.
Interesting. There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about CP's actual orientation and dating history. The fact that words have no coherent definitions to these people certainly doesn't help.
stand by him when other troons tried to cancel him for being truscum-ish and associating with Buck Angel. It was bad enough that he got pushed off twitter for a while and people also started going after her for not disowning him. Given how eager she is to see other people cancelled or at least publicly flogged for their sins against wokeness makes me think they're pretty close and she feels some level of attachment. Tinfoiling aside, I think at least that much is pretty self-evident.
I bet when no one's listening they make fun of all the "marginalized folks" they virtue signal about in public.
Please tell me that was a 4chan op to see if someone on the left would take the bait
Please i need to know that
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Is Xiran Jay Zhao the only breadtuber that managed to break into the mainstream without getting cancelled?
Lindsay Ellis is still pretty popular despite getting cancelled and quitting. Kek
Believe me it won’t take long for Xiran. Like Lindsay her first book is super successful but I bet you anything the next will flop like truth of the divine did.
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you're right, her next book is YA and that genre always has drama. there should be a thread for them
Is Xiran considered breadtube? Is she their first diversity hire lmfao
I like her videos for the most part since she focuses on being informative with history and culture and thankfully
keeps the woke shit to a minimum. Her videos remind me of Lindsay’s better work, which were almost exclusively film history related.
I know Xiran is a she-they, which disappoints me greatly. She mentioned liking femininity as a performance, but feels like a neutral person
outside of playing with costumes. Apparently normal people cannot be women. It’s typical NLOG bullshit with a contrapoints level definition of womanhood.
She also made a comment in her Mulan 2 video about a basic het relationship being “queer” because the artists accidentally mixed up which color of the yinyang was male vs female. It was less of a “haha in my culture you’re technically gay now” kind of joke and more of an unironic belief. She spergs on about how Mulan is trans and Shang is bisexual because he might have been subconsciously attracted to a woman in drag. That shit made me want to punch her autistic looking face through my computer screen.
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Alright here's a compilation of all the wrongthink that people on twitter use as justification to cancel her
>She didn't reply to an indigenous woman who was mad at her "twilight was alright" vid >made a tweet stating that there's probably slave play fan-fic of Harriet Tubman >being subtly mean to Mara Wilson for not really being bi>making fun of Zack Snyder after twitter decided to revaluate Zack Snyder cause he's considered woke now >the raperap during her Nostalgia Chick days>defending James Gunn >implied everyone attacking her was a straight white male and that no real enlightened POC would actually attack her which made twitter even more angrier and here a lot more people started attacking her mostly out of spite cause Lindsay Ellis at that point became a representation of annoying white feminists for them, all the issues these people had with white feminists in their communities, they aimed that frustration on Lindsay
Xiran even says in the press kit she is okay with 'any' pronouns, so this is pointless white knight behavior. Pronoun policing is stupid as fuck.https://xiranjayzhao.com/index.php/press-kit/
> I am non-binary and don’t mind any pronouns casually, but please refer to me as They/Them in official bios.
I really cannot stand how completely normal and slightly GNC females are being convinced they're not women because (1.) they don't feel like women, as if 'woman' were something you 'feel' any more than nationality or age, and (2.) because MtFs' bizarre idealization of femininity gets held up as the standard of what 'feeling' like a woman is like, and when they don't have that, they're like "guess I'm not a woman."
So many otherwise intelligent women I know obviously buy into this non-binary stuff because they're gay (gender dysphoria is very common in gay people, not just trans people), or they're autistic, or they think 'cis woman' means 'live laugh love' and they're too cool to be 'cis'. In doing so, they erase an entire history of women who also feel gender dysphoria, who also identified with maleness or androgyny for diverse reasons, and who had the courage to continue living publicly. I genuinely think the non-binary shit has been more harmful to feminism than binary trans shit because it took a default feeling ("I don't feel like a gender") and used it as proof you're not a woman, and then told these women they were more special and oppressed and had deeper knowledge than the other ones. Reifying the idea that woman = identifying with a bunch of brainless stereotypes in one swift move. To be fair, MtFs and FtMs already set the groundwork, but 'you don't need dysphoria to be trans' and 'you don't need to present a certain way to be trans' are non-binary creations, and lead to extremely-feminine presenting people like Xiran thinking they're not women because they can't feel their woman-ness anymore than they can feel their hair. And also disproportionately targeting autistic and gay women. What is left of feminism when being quirky, not 'feeling' like a gender, and being intelligent become diagnostic signs that you're actually not a woman?
sage for OT, I wrote the post and I agree with you, I feel should have made that point more clearer
a lot of this is literal "receipts" are literal grasping at straws to create a narrative about Lindsay Ellis and as I stated, this whole witch hunt became less about what Lindsay may have done and what she represented to these people i.e "annoying white feminists" and so she became a whipping girl for them
Its sick really and no one deserves this shit
exactly how is it so awful? fanfiction in general is riddled with abusive
power dynamics, sexual violence, and overt racism. there's literally no level to which horny female autists will not stoop, and I thought it was obvious that lindsay was making fun of this? Not to mention the fact that, in all honesty, the movie does seem to be encouraging shipping and fanfiction, like why else would they create an OC and cast taylor swift's boyfriend of all people as harriet's 'owner' and make him romantically obsessed with her? the movie itself is disgusting fanfic.(learn2sage)
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Is anybody brave enough to watch this and report back?
Scroll higher toots. She was condemning some guy for featuring alleged terf
jill bearup in his video
watched it but got confused and posted in the MTF thread, copypasting here
it's clickbait, it's actually his personal sob story of growing up in the wrong body. feeling like a failure as a boy. autism about some obscure children's series and his favorite mermaid doll and how it totally meant he was a girl. he's really insecure and attempts banter or confidence and it falls flat and awkward (13:50 is an example of that). it's narcissistic and he comes very close to self awareness (was i entitled to appropriate the feminine if i never suffered the way women suffer ? 39:10 did i want to be a girl just because i wanted to be desired and wanted ?) which is promptly directed back in the comfort zone of goodthink (of course not, it was my actual identity). >11:15 describes how he didn't like puberty but the impression i get is that he just wanted to remain a child.>12:30 he used to be a fatty. good on him for a least shedding the pounds>17:50 stealing mom's clothes and saying he did NOT get aroused by it>25:40 a bunch of girls he used to hang with all bombarded him with compliments, telling him how hot and manly he was.>BUT 31:33 he never got laid in college, not even once, can you believe that ?>40:37 "one night, a friend found me crying". i find the phrasing INCREDIBLE, it's like he sees himself from the outside like a true autogynephile. he's putting himself in 3rd person to amp up the pathos have us empathize.>42:30 fake crying>45:10 admits clickbait, if you wanna know how to feel sexy that's for next time
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PhilosophyTube got FFS yesterday or the day before. Basic research tells me that he should be mostly done visually healing 7-10 days after the procedure, so we can most realistically expect a face reveal around a week from now. Perhaps sooner if PT wants to milk pictures of him all bruised and fucked up for sympathy, perhaps later if he wants to wait to do a big theatrical reveal in his next video. If there's one thing we know about PT, it's that he's great at delaying gratification short-term to maximize asspats received at a later date. >>1422570
ty very much, nona! I'm disappointed that the video wasn't nearly as cow-ish as the thumbnail makes it appear to be. Clickbait is embarrassing, but it's also just sort of the norm. ah well.
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Sarah Z changed pronouns to "she/they?". No 'they' pronouns before December of last year. Wonder if she's going down the non-binary path. Sage for no milk.
i'm going to answer in good faith cus i can see you are too, and as much as i've never liked PT, transitioning is not something you can just gloss over (people clocked something was going on the moment the beard and moustache were gone lol). So it makes sense to make a public statement about it, she's an actor and contrapoints wannabe so of course the statement is going to be a 1.5 hour special self declaring to be the Most Famous Trans of Terf
She's insufferable and that's exactly what i was expecting, i saw snippets of her streams she shares way too much and gets offended when people asks totally normal follow up questions
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I couldn't watch this whole thing, but it definitely made me rage a little.
At some point in the video, the dude "corrects" the woman when she says that being female isn't a costume. He says, "female isn't an identity. It's is a biological sex. 'Woman' IS an identity."
Most coherent models of gender vs sex will uphold this, but in heavily-trans spheres, you will get strung up for saying something like this. The idea that trans women on hormones are more female than male is now the prevailing thought among Twitter troons.
So, anybody participating in trans conversations is wrong at any given moment. Whether or not punishment is enforced is entirely up to the discretion of the authority figures in a space, usually mtfs.
This boy is being good and correctly calling out wrongspeak, so he gets a pass and is largely exempt from criticism from the trans community. (Additionally, he's supposedly not even a cis male, despite presenting as such and having the YouTube name 'Mr. Beard.' Somehow, I get the feeling the wouldn't get such generous treatment if he were female.)
Also, most of the pushback I see in the comments is about him saying that age-regression is cringe, even though he also validates all the bullshit about how it's a non-sexual coping mechanism that has NOTHING to do with being trans.
God, I hate this shit. When will it end..?
I saw the video and was pretty annoyed. I couldn't get through the whole thing but the person he made a video on did a nice response back to him.
>came out nonbinary
Of course this sadfuck did. They always do. I give it a few months to maybe a year and he'll come out as tRaNsWoMaN.
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Made a compilation of some recent PhilosophyTube milk.
He released a Behind the Scenes (BTS) video, and even his sycophants on the subreddit seem to be sick of him. (I think at least some of the users whose comments were deleted are trolls, but some users e.g. "Moxiewhoreon" are confirmed former stans.)
Many, many comments that were critical of him have been removed from the subreddit. Funnily enough, they were up for few days before being removed, coincidentally around the time that PT resumed posting on reddit. He's also a moderator of his own subreddit, of course.
Pretty much all of this has been posted on Kiwifarms, so if you keep up with that thread, there's not much new here for you.
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And here's another reddit comment chain that I felt was too long + not milky enough for the main collage, but I thought some stuff in it was interesting.
sweet jesus he well and truly is a raging narcissist.
i thought the entire crybaby "can't get healthcare" and "uk is hell for trans women" bs was bad enough, (despite it literally being free and insanely accessible for rich kid troons more so than actual real less-wealthy women).
i cannot stand this dude for a more personal reason i guess: i'm from Newcastle, UK and this dude went to the private school here which costs like 14-15k per year. he's not and never has known oppression on any front no matter how hard he tries to relate to the working class women here who are genuinely struggling.
it's so telling how he's so happy to shit on 'cis' women and really milk that 'terf
island' stuff as if he has ever really stepped foot out of his family manor and into the real world here.
i guess it's easy to make villains out of people you've barely even interacted with because you're on Bupa healthcare and your fanbase consists of AGPs in thigh-high socks.
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>learning all the horrid stuff Abi's said about women
>the borderline toxic and hateful rhetoric around cis women
holy shit they're realizing this now? Better late than never I guess but Jesus Christ. did they not read the same coming out note we all did last year (picrel)? It was dripping in resentmemt towards women, and not even just "cis women" but anyone born female
>if cisgender women WANT hormone replacement therapy for menopause, they can get it from their GP, while if trans people NEED it they have to go to a different clinic
>Trans men die waiting for breast reduction surgery that cis women get for back pain
>PEOPLE under 16 can get an abortion but trans children can't get puberty blockers
this quote along with the one about hrt (which is prescribed for osteoporosis, and is actually dangerous for women) live rent free in my head
>trans women are hit hardest by (..) domestic, sexual abuse, but the conversation always focuses on wealthy white cis women tweeting about toilets
said by a wealthy white man. misogynistic men always hate their own women the most, and get praise for it
>like suffragettes and black civil rights movements before us
>in my opinion feminism is blah blah blah unoriginally mocks liberal feminism
ok, what does that have to do with being a tranny? he just wanted to seethe at women some more
anyway in conclusion oliver thorne is an ugly narcissistic british man in a dress and the day he stops getting attention he will probably fly to america and make a contrapoints skin suit
i agree with you, there's no need to be a terf
to disdain PT, she gives plenty of reasons herself lol.
I agree with most of all that is presented in >>1433983
however i think the last tumblr ask is an odd choice: PT is always flippant and borderline rude to all those who leave long, detailed, adoring letters on tumblr, but man that one anon was rude as shit
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He was obviously a narc looking for validation before coming out. His struggles with mental health boil down to him doing his best never to improve himself by convincing himself that there's not actually anything to improve. Before, it was because he was only exaggerating or imagining his flaws due to depwession. Now, there is literally nothing wrong and everything is the TERFs' fault!!! >>1437425
PT used to hide behind a character. When he did cringe, self-aggrandizing stuff, it was just playing! When he was embarrassingly dramatic, it was just ~theatre~.
But since he transitioned, he's been presenting the character as, more-or-less, his authentic self. When he flaunts his pudgy body, it no longer feels like a bit of a meme for the ladies wink wink
, it feels like he's just trying to show off. The costumes are now just an excuse to play dress-up without saying anything or actually embodying a character, while before, they were a low-effort way to visually reflect the video's content or do a skit.
His presentation in post-transition videos is especially odd because his "normal character" either:
1. Feels like a performance because he acts in a very unnaturally effeminate manner
2. Feels like a costume because he just acts like typically masculine like he used to, but while wearing a dress and makeup.
I definitely haven't been able to quite put my finger on all the reasons why the new PT feels so damn weird (beyond being faketrans), and I'm eager to hear others' opinions.
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anyone gave this a reading?
Which video is that transcript from?? >Now, there is literally nothing wrong and everything is the TERFs' fault!!!
It's funny how the "TERFs" over at the farms offer him great advice in between criticizing him. A couple of the active posters there even seem to sympathize with him. Anyone could see that PT's self-absorption and misogyny would eventually alienate his female fan base. >I definitely haven't been able to quite put my finger on all the reasons why the new PT feels so damn weird
It's because his Abigail persona is just a fetish and he doesn't even try to hide it.
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It's from the "Men. Abuse. Trauma." video. He then goes on at length about how he only felt that way because he was traumatized by his "emotionally abusive
" girlfriend. I'm sure their relationship was at least toxic
, but beyond being hit one (1) time, he can't cite much that his girlfriend did that is clearly abusive
. Obviously abuse isn't always easy to point out, but if this is the best he can offer, I'm doubtful that her behavior really qualifies as abuse.
(God forbid your girlfriend get upset when you keep flirting with a troon you met online.)
And on the last point, I was trying to get at why twitards who are mindlessly accepting of trans stuff still think he feels off. They're generally very good at ignoring every trans-related red flag a person presents, so I don't know if they're picking up on his fetish behavior or if other things are bothering them. I didn't make that clear though.
Thank you! I'm definitely skeptical of the "abusive
" girlfriend as well, PT is a narc and they will often DARVO to make themselves look like the victim>I was trying to get at why twitards who are mindlessly accepting of trans stuff still think he feels off
This is a good point. PT isn't the first troon ever to be an obvious NPD + AGP nutcase. His coming out video was actually what pushed me over the edge into becoming a "TERF
", though I had been picking up on the misogyny and fetishism of the trans community for a while before that. For me it was the fact that he was so inauthentic in his coming out video + statement. It made me realize that it's a fetish for some of these men and that there's a social contagion factor to it
i would bet every cent i have that she was not abusive
and that he was actually the abusive
one. he's a dramatic egotist that doesn't stop playing victim
even when in obvious positions of power. god i hate him.
None of this outside of the hitting sounds abusive
. Sounds like she was unhappy in the relationship and acted accordingly.
Anon, if you don't think any of this is abusive
… you might just be abusive
. And I say that as someone who has treated a past partner in many of these ways and have since realized it was fucked up and wrong, though I didn't see it at the time.
I always cringe whenever people online mention being British when its not relevant. They always do it because they feel a pathetic need to rely on national stereotypes instead of their own personality.
Why refer to himself as a "fleshy English robot" as if it makes any difference to being a "fleshy French robot" or "fleshy Argentinian robot"? Are people from England uniquely predisposed to killing themselves?
He wants to appear cultured and aloof without actually possessing these qualities.
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leave name and subject fields blank when you post. Leave the email one blank too, or write "sage" so sage (picrel). And you might want to delete those last three posts because your email address is public.
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Contrapoints somehow managed to land a cis girlfriend.https://youtu.be/GgQpkx7EYLQ?t=1755
i was trying to figure out who tina belcher's voice reminded me of.
that show unbearable. 2 of 3 female main characters voiced by scrotes.
Me, being a radical feminist, I think this video is incredibly counter-productive and most of her "personal objections" are complete nonsense. first of all, her idealization of lesbianism is just a form escapism for heterosexual women,(believe it or not lesbians are suffering from the patriarchy as well and have their own issues)
firstly: every kind of group of people has disadvantages and advantages concerning their biology, secondly: in a non-patriarchal society being pregnant wouldn't be such a risk and discomfort regarding the pregnancy and birth of the child (there wouldn't be a gender bias in medicine and it would be worked very intensely on developing healthcare treatment for women who are pregnant and give birth) or the upbringing of the child. The point she made about the human race disappearing from earth in a truly non-patriarchal feminist society is nonsense as well: it wouldn't be unattractive to have children, it would simply be an enrichment and only those who would not want to upbring or bear a child just because of personal preferences would not get pregnant or those who are in a relationship that doesn't allow getting pregnant or those who simply don't come into the position of deciding whether or not they want to have children. Yes, the rate of births would probably decline heavily but on the other hand it wouldn't be hard to care for your kids because you would get the support that's needed and a pregnancy would not be as painful and difficult. One has to acknowledge that the reasons for women, me included, not wanting to have children are often times tied to the fact that the mysogynist and capitalist society we live in contradicts having a healthy relationship to and enough money and time for your children.
To sum it up, her points about nature being patriarchal in some way and humans being shitty by their nature are points made by fascists to legitimize their shitty arguments and therefore also capitalism.
also her dismissal of the vast anthropological evidence that there have existed many semi-egalitarian societies as "white men with insecurities about being bad guys" is an erasure of human history. That anthropological work is important because it shows us that better social relations have existed and are still possible
lastly: the polyamory test. What the heck. This test is just free of any sense. I would choose the troll if I wanted a monogamous relationship and the prince if I would want a polyamorous relationship. Period. This kind of goes hand in hand with the objectification of men in this video and I wouldn't complain about it if I wouldn't think that it is counter-productive and at some points problematic
. I make fun of the appearence of men all the time because I am oppressed by them but I know that in general It's still asshole behavior
anyway I think that's it. I just felt the need to post this comment because I honestly felt a little hurt by some of the things you said and because I don't think they're an awful representation of radical feminism. can't believe I'm typing this out btw
plus using tiktok(chapter 4 of her video) of women barely in their 20's complaining online, as some sort of big proof of her arguments is also pretty dumb
Chances are the algorithm is just feeding her what she's been watching and reinforcing her existing beliefs(like it does for everyone else) you can get tons of Happy hetero couples Tiktok recommendations if that's the content your actively watching
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First photos of Philosophy Tube post-FFS have been leaked
Weird, usually they give them dorito chins, he looks the same but slightly different. Somehow his chin looks bigger but also smaller. Then he has that tight look. Like he's in pain and can barely move his face.
I will say it's nice to see a troon not go for the catgirl or bimbo look. Then again, I guess he knows he can't and doesn't try. He looks twice his age, like a older woman with work done to look young. Sad.
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They need to invent a shoulder shrinking surgery if he wants to have any hope of passing.
He's 28>>1450595>He looks twice his age, like a older woman with work done to look young.
Thank you this is exactly how I felt but couldn't put it into words. Almost reminds me of Catherine O'hara
Eminiem and a man dressing as that girl who sings the Driver Licenses song, or whatever it is.
This picture gives me the creeps, like a man stretching a teenage girls face over his male face. Is this before or after?
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this one is terrifying
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he just looks so old? he has the same mouth as LVP or nigella lawson, who are both in their SIXTIES
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Why are men's face so long? Being male is a curse.
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There's nothing wrong with long female
faces though. Having a wider/shorter face would not have help that him anymore than the ffs already did.
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he looks like this twitter troon lol
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It reminds me of that doctor who episode with the clone people who had trouble keeping their forms. Seriously uncanny.
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I can't get over how asymmetrical his nostrils are, now.
At least he's been going hard on the voice training. Definitely better than Contra, now.
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So, I did a quick watch of the video. It was pretty boring and pretty uncontroversial, and better than his other recent videos. He talks about himself for a while and then explores why some people say they are anti-vaxx or vaccine-hesitant. He validates their concerns using real evidence, states some reasons why they should get vaccinated anyways, and then explains to the audience why shaming anti-vaxxers doesn't work.
That's it. No explanation on how you could change their minds. It's notable that he assumes that everybody watching the video is vaccinated. I guess the implication is that we should fix the corruption in our healthcare systems so that people have less reason to be distrusting..? But it's unclear, since as usual, he's unwilling to make any prescriptive statements that aren't "transes deserve everything!"
So, if the overall goal of the video is just to make his audience more sympathetic to anti-vaxxers then… good job?
attached pic is mostly me marveling at his plastic surgery.
Well, you're right. lmao
But also, the make-up makes her face look so unnaturally shiny. It's weird.>>1450616
And this just looks so unflattering.
I just don't get why people do this to themselves.
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"Women be quieter and start apologizing challenge" who said it- a leftist moid or a conservative? On International Women's Day nonetheless
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JKR also retweeted this kek
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Vaush always does this “aha guys it’s just a meme” routine when he says blatantly misogynistic garbage. The tranny chaser won’t even own up to hating women. Remember when these guys were the same ones pointing out how the Alt-Right uses “jokes” as a thin veil for racism?
Didn't watch the video, didn't care, but Jesus, does this bitch have a mug permanently surgically attached to her hand or something?
She's literally always drinking something in her videos and it's fucking distracting.
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lmfao so this is a thing.
chelsea has been tweeting at contrapoints for the past year or so and was flat out ignored every time although they used to hangout together when contra was at her peak. i wonder with this news contra is gonna start interacting publicly again with chelsea?
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Hontra is absolutely botched. He looks like a foot and has no chin. He has to be one of the ugliest men alive, worse than both Musk and Manning by far
he looked dead and lifeless even back then
found these old clips of him from the unconventional man thread: >>244235>>244296
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Kat Blaque (another mtf breadtuber) and Contrapoints have both taken issue with Vaush’s “ironic” misogyny against Rowling. He’s having a total sperg out over it, I’ll leave links to everything below, but here’s a summary:>kat started a conversation with his community about misogyny and how he believes it shouldn’t be weaponized in defense of trans people, discovered that a shit ton of trans women are actual misogynists who think misogyny is cool and based. Said he didn’t care about Vaush and that, while the discussion was started by Vaush’s tweets, it wasn’t about trashing him.> Vaush jumps into Kat’s dms begging for a conversation because he claims to respect Kat too much to drag him on stream like he normally would. Uses dumb analogies, concern trolls about Kat’s mental health for daring to disagree with him, engages in general shifty “gaslighting” behavior imo>Kat starts a massive Twitter thread about the whole thing, admitting that the two of them previously sexted and also releasing the dms of their conversation, not the sexting. Apparently massive Twitter threads are normal for him, he uses dictation/text to speech for Twitter.>Vaush’s response is “she’s obsessed with me” and to dig up a screenshot of Kat suicide baiting a suspected troll account three years ago>Controon senses that he’s not getting enough attention and the spat in the pic occurs
Link to Kat’s threads because it would hit post limit if I tried to screenshot everything:https://twitter.com/kat_blaque/status/1503947170730283009?s=21
I suggest scrolling to the top of the thread from there and then clicking the link on the last one if you want to see all the dm screenshots
Kat suicide bait screenshot:https://twitter.com/vaushv/status/1503924498789109760?s=21
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Kinda wish we had a "Soon to Troon" thread, because Vaush seems like a straight up "egg" or someone who'd troon out when he's cancelled.
It's funny, because not only is Kat someone he wants to fuck (because he's gay and hates women) but he's also black, so I feel THATS why Vaush handled this as he did.
He could'nt come at Kat like he would a women, because Kat has "twice" the woke power. The magical black transwoman these wokes care they care so much about and are the most vulnerable people on this planet.I love this, I dislike everyone involved but I love it's two troons calling his ass out.
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Popped in to see Vaush is still seething on stream, hate scrolling Reddit and going on a ban spree for anyone who disagrees with him. YouTube chat is set to subscribers only, is that new for him?
The combination of his bot telling everyone to stop using slurs, plus one of his dick riders saying the chad move is to go on his stream and agree with Vaush, and the other that he should ban more people… classic.
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this reply… what the fuck is it supposed to mean, when the only trauma with men jk rowling has mentioned is related to domestic violence?? Christ the absolute state of the online left… it's also glaringly obvious than no one on vaush's side sees trans women as women, like they're not even pretending lol it's an open secret at this point
>>1469816>Actually my fave degen streamer's misogyny is based because that bitch wouldn't have been beaten by her husband decades ago if she wasn't terf tweeting right now
literally brain dead, all of them. utter and absolute retards, just like Vaush himself.
Although having read all sixty something screenshots of the Vaush/kat dms, I think you can pinpoint the second Vaush actually starts treating Kat like a real woman. I'd say it's right around the point he starts calling Kat hysterical, condescending, and obsessed with him for not licking his boots. It really was just as slimy and disgusting as his attempt to defend himself over his sexual harassment drama in that stream with destiny. I only actually watched that whole thing recently cause I hate destiny too much to sit through an hour and a half video, but after Vaush's latest gamer moment I really just needed anything to hate watch and get the frustration out. I never even knew how disgusting all the shit he sent to those women got, and his main defense was just "those bitches secretly wanted it"
>>1469868>i honestly think that Kat telling him that she doesn't think about him and isn't invested in him personally was the most devastating thing she could have said to him
Totally. He can cope all he wants with his collages of Kat telling him he doesn’t care about him or want to interact with him and pretend it means the opposite, but I think it’s very clear to anyone with even a slightly milder case of autism than Vaush that Kat spent most of it just trying to get this loser to stop bugging him about stupid hypotheticals.
It’s insane to me that Vaush is trying to claim Kat sexually harassed him by admitting they’d sexted years ago after Vaush was already trying to paint him as some bitter ex girlfriend type. Vaush brought up Contra’s drug addiction kek
on stream, and apparently was making comments about how “people like kat” love white dick. If I were in Kat’s shoes, I’d think he was gonna drop that shit on everyone himself, so no wonder he just got it out of the way. He can complain when Kat talks about how his dick could prolapse Vaush’s ass and how much he wants to see him nervously stroking horse cock, because if he ever experienced a fraction of the harassment he’s put women through, he wouldn’t be shitting himself over another man admitting to sexting him.
I hope the kiwis can get all the screenshots saved, this whole thing has been a trip but there’s just too many to post here unless someone is really good at making collages.
You're right for the most part, I think Kat is the only content creator who said he didn't like it because it's misogyny and misogyny is bad, even against the dreaded terfs, in addition to
complaints that it made him and TRAs look bad. Breadtube has never cared about women so anyone who's actually surprised is either male or blind.
yeah kat is a huge degenerate but while i believe calling yourself a woman as a man is inherently misogynistic, i think out of the three of them he's the only one who doesn't actively resent women, or at least not in the same incel way as the other two.
It's sad that contra is like this because imo he's actually smarter than your average agp and i believe somewhere deep down he knows the terfs are at least partially right and he's not a woman (he flat out refuses to define what a woman even is lol) but he'd rather literally cope and seethe and possibly dilate for the rest of his days than see us as people
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Vaush being delusional 1/2>>1471333
Are you talking about Kat or Hontra?
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I think he has the same condition that a lot of woke WOC
find themselves in, they constantly think about white men 24/7, white men colonizing and dominating the world and it eventually leads to a bizarre racial fetish
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Olly is a petty asshole (not my screencap)
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I gotta wonder what the like/dislike ratio on this one is, because 2.9k likes on a 57k view video where at least half the comment section is disagreeing with him doesn’t sound too promising. It’s pretty funny seeing vaush fans trying to find a way to politely accuse him of being disingenuous for lying about the lia situation or saying only conservatives disagree with him.
Why do these sad fucks have to bring politics into every little thing? It was a simple children to YA fantasy story, it's not meant to be taken seriously but of course these fuckwits are just doing this because Rowling is tErF
I guess all the BW on LSA are conservatives, or everyone I know are conservatives. The idea that everyone against troons are conservative white right wingers is so retarded. The most transphobic men I've ever met are woke bm. The most terfish women I've ever met (self included) are WOC
. And they don't don't call themselves terfs, just have the basic, "men aren't women. They shouldn't take things meant for women. Women need our own spaces. A transwoman is a transwoman/man and we are different. Etc. Etc. Etc. Laws shouldn't change her benefit men who think they are women"
Most this shit isn't even "terf
" or "transphobic " it's common normke thought. Until you get groomed/mind fuckrd on twitter/reddit/discord/breadtube into believing dumb shit. Or you are a chaser/super woke tard like Vaish whose in it because he's more attracted to men and they are his main audience.
Are people who read HP and enjoyed it supposed to comment "Wow, I used to love Harry Potter, but this video changed my mind"? It just seems so weak
This just seems like a list of points for people who say things like "Ok but harry potter sucks anyway" to regurgitate. Since 90% of them don't have much strong reasoning for repeating that, or just never read the books in the fist place, I guess this is supposed to be some sort of cheat sheet? I can't see any other use for it. We know he didn't just make the video because he feels very passionate about children's books lol
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Dislikes weren't that shit. But his subs are going down.
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Philosophytube wrote an article on how happy he is now that he's publicly an autogynephile. Mentions a trans ex-girlfriend (likely Contrapoints) who never spoke to him again after he came out.
Imagine people giving this level of analysis to the Magic Schoolbus books lmao. What's the T-minus on him coming out as Shauna>>1476344
What a narc. That line about how he's cooming harder than he ever coomed before hit me like an absolute truck.
God the narcissism>"I'm sorry this has happened to you. It's a curse"
..a part of me always feels bad for contra (for being a mentally ill addict) but the part that resents him for his behavior towards women is much bigger >>1476124
the endless reaching for something problematic
in this children's book series will never not be entertaining to me. Although I've never read it myself seeing large hp displays in every bookshop makes me smile, knowing that their seething will literally never make a difference
JK Rowling was demonized as terminally liberal for so long, too. And the "problematic
" things she does do in the books were exceedingly normal at the time they were written.
My bad, I guess I assumed he’d have better engagement than like 5% of watchers. Is that normal for YouTubers of his size?
I hope he keeps dropping subs, although I’m not too optimistic about it. It’s funny that it happened so soon after he was celebrating 400K.>>1476344>I came out publicly a year ago in front of the whole acting industry, my existing audience of over a million people, and the international press, instantly making headlines in multiple languages and trending on YouTube and Twitter.
Disgusting, I can literally hear him cooming with one hand and typing with the other. It really is all about the attention, isn’t it? He gets to pretend he isn’t a mediocre wealthy failson with a knockoff breadtube channel, no, he’s a brave and stunning actress overcoming all sorts of trials and tribulations to the applause of an international audience of adoring fans. How he can literally admit that his career and everything have been made so much better by being trans when trans people are supposed to be the most discriminated against, disadvantaged minority? The man puts on a dress and gets boosted to the stars, while far more famous and successful women like Ellen Page try to do the reverse and end up alone with a stagnating career and barely a couple pity articles to further the cause.
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How similar they are is actually kind of cute until you realize that it's because "Emily" is imitating Sarah in every way lmao
>>1476344>It brings me so much joy when strangers call me 'Miss' or 'Ma'am'
Kind of nitpicky, but we don't address women as Miss and Ma'am in the UK in adult life. If the NHS is so awful anyway, and you seem to be chatting more to Americans, why not just move to the States? Or is it about being top victim
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keking at the related article. its almost as if hontra paid the site to show it
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Why is this rich fuck acting like NHS waiting times has anything to do with him? When he already paid for FFS out of pocket? Also, by "Muslim transwoman" he's referring to this specimen, right?
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of course the freak has a period fetish!
not my screenshot and tweet deleted but the reply is still there https://twitter.com/nonstampnsc/status/762772663026667521
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He is obsessed with her.
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He's truly the worst scum of breadtube
he's right about conservatives in the first tweet tbh. I see comments like that all the time by moids making fun of women's sports for simply existing. It's gratuitous sexism. It is
hard to believe that people who are very open about seeing zero value in women's sports are genuinely concerned about female athletes
Yes, the problem isn’t that he’s wrong about conservatards not caring about women, the problem is that he uses them as a shield so he never has to engage with the real arguments of people who do
care and have always cared. I know not even every woman cares about womens sports, but plenty of us do, and we’re literally half the population. Only a moid could ignore that to pretend anyone who claims to care about women is lying.
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How accurate is the stuff that Xiran says in her videos. Most youtube political essay videos aren't good but I can't help but feel as if I'm being lied to nowadays when I try watching any of them.
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don't "cis" men like shaun ever get tired of caping so hard for trannies? when they're in the wrong and hurting women he never says anything (zero tweets about lia thomas, or the wi spa incident or anything else like that) but immediately jumps to their defense on anything else. spineless coward
Shaun used to be so cool when he was starting out - my bff and I still quote his CinemaSins videos to this day, ideally in the broadest Scouse accent we can muster "Rest of the good guys running past random spot R2D2 just managed to wind up… Cliché? Wot deh fook is da'?"
Now if he isn't giving dumbass takes on Twitter he's barely disguising his thirst for girldick.
No wonder Jen left him.
samefag but I wanted to add that get the L out "stands against transgenderism" in the same way that trans people "stand against" actual lesbianism (female homosexuality). Like they're not just a random hate group that hates individual trans people for no reason, they formed as a reaction to a specific phenomenon in the lgbt community which was discriminatory towards them>>1499372
same, I loved those videos! that's why I check his Twitter once in a while and I'm always disappointed
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I once saw her walking around her neighbourhood wearing that viral strawberry dress last summer, she was alone and looked sad, but that was probably me projecting. 500$ dress though
I probably would have said hello but I saw her on the street and I was on the bus, she lives in one of the statistically whitest and
most affluent neighbourhoods in Vancouver
(i hope that isn't doxxing lol)
She posted some pics of her wearing that dress iirc, proving it's an ugly dress that only fits skinny people as it looked like ass on her.
I wouldnt say it's doxxing as anyone with half a brain could guess she's THAT type of white liberal (you know, the bisexual baby gay BLM4LIFE! who only dates old white dudes)
That’s because she bought a rip off version that was $50 and not the original that was $500, so the tie ended up over her bust instead of under it (idk why all the dupes get the tie placement wrong). She was briefly attacked for buying a dupe on Twitter when she first got it (because fast fashion/ripping off designers?). I think she deleted the thread.
She recently bought a genuine Selkie dress, and those are expensive. (Also really unflattering to anyone, I don’t get the hype) She may have bought it used I guess, but it’s a step up from sketchy strawberry dress dupes for her.
No, because many scrotes are covert AGPs. AGP is part-and-parcel of patriarchy. To turn everything female into a perpetual sexual fetish fantasy where everyone must submit to the coomerllusion or die is peak scrote. Shaun clearly feels like he owns lesbians.
Do you ever see women whining about TIFs being excluded from gay spaces? Women don't have a stake in the fantasy.
Even if she did buy the original with the correct tie placement, that dress isn’t very flattering if you have a large bust like her and will end up looking weird and ill-fitting. The particular shade of red her hair is right now also washes her out and just adds to the dowdiness of her overall look.
I also just found out she’s only 23. That surprised me. Idk why but I thought she was older. She gives very strong millennial energy for a zoomer.
I agree with everyone wishing she’d ditch the mug running gag. She could just have it in the frame and take sips of it whenever she wants to make a point, but the whole sassy tea sip thing is a tired gag too. Maybe she could just make a cute little intro with pouring her drink into a mug in the beginning and leave it out while she’s speaking. It just stresses me out watching it slosh around and almost spill while she’s gesturing with it. Sage for all this autism, but it irritates me how easy it would be for her to improve her videos stylistically but she chooses not to.
It was a dupe??? Ahahahhahah that's amazing, they all bitch and moan for supporting the arts and not supporting abusive
business practices but now when they REAAAAAALLY want the new shiny shit everyone is "there's not ethical consumption under capitalism babe!" And orded straight from the sweatshop, huh
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Hasan called out for being a champagne socialist
This dude is like if you ask someone to draw the stereotypcial "handsome bro", except he's not really attractive even though he is?
He just looks stuffed and generic. The type of handsome that's not even handsome anymore. It's not just his personality, either. I can't describe it. He's so fake, such a character.
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what's funny is that he's the furthest thing you could get from a "bro", he was a chubby video game obsessed porn addict in his youth, he just has enough self discipline to work out and stay fit and has a decent enough face that he appears as a "chad" in the leftist online community, its something I call the "nick mullen effect" in a leftist male space where 95% of men are well unfit beta males, the one semi-fit man would be considered a "chad" in that community
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He was posting less than half a day ago about fixing something on the computer so unless something happened in the last 10 hours, anon is full of shit.
I watched some of her videos but ended up unsubscribing. Nitpick but her laugh drove me up the wall. I think she tries too hard to be politically correct and always has to bring up race or sexuality or trannies.>>1478227
This is my exact impression of her. She seems like the type to latch onto something and make it her personality for a week and then just move onto the next thing.
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Any extra deets on Xiran "china wasn't homophobic until contacnt with white people" zhao, she seems like a huge potential cow, here what I know
>2nd generation chinese immigrant living in canada
>parents are super wealthy and apparently old money
>puts on a obnoxious faux accent in her vidoes
>wrote a cringy self-insert sci-fi novel thats a rip off generic mecha anime features her poly relationship
>they/them who presents herself as super feminine and gets offended if you dare "misgender" her
>speaks like she's an authority of chinese history and culture and makes claims about china being supportive of trans and gay people before the evil europeans came along
>a they/them who presents herself as super feminine and gets offended if you dare "misgender" her
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samefag here's her awkward sounding Wikipedia page and her dumb fan-casting of her novel(where its pretty apparent her mc is just an idealized version of herself)
>Xiran Jay Zhao is a Chinese-born Canadian author, internet personality, and cosplayer. Their[a] debut novel, Iron Widow, became a No. 1 New York Times Best Seller and won the 2021 BSFA Award for Best Book for Younger Readers.>Zhao immigrated to British Columbia from a small town in China in grade five. They are of Hui heritage on their father's side. They would imagine stories growing up, but did not put any on paper until they were encouraged to at an anime convention when they were 15. They majored in health sciences with a focus on biochemical disease research at Simon Fraser University, graduating in 2020. They worked at a co-op before deciding an office job was not for them.
she also makes cringy fandom memes about her own novelhttps://xiranjayzhao.com/index.php/memes/
What's funny is that Xiao Zhan got into a scandal last year because his fans went apeshit and basically attacked anyone writing Untamed/MZDS fics. He went completely silent on the matter too. Such a supporter and ally. What a crazy delusion bitch. I know it's always Chinese Canadians or Americans who are like this.
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while she's greatly exaggerating the level of toleration, open homosexual sexual activity and relationships did exist in China, thought they did not see themselves as members of some special gender but as men and women still.
Sleeping with the same sex is really more of a fetish in old China, cause at the end of the day these people saw themselves as men and women who later married the opposite gender as was expected of them. Only difference is that women were expected to be faithful while the man can go banging whores of either gender so long as he isnt consumed by sexual addicition to neglect his duties.
a lot of current homophobia in china society can be traced back to the cultural revolution which viewed male homosexuality as unnatural bourgeois decadence
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How is she ripping off code geass? She states in her weeb summary everything she rips off and it looks more like darling in the franxx of anything
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a lot of other reviewers have pointed this out, but Xiran wu zetian is nothing like the historical empress wu, the real wu zetian was a backhanded manipulator who played the long game for years, even acting as a submissive meek woman while plotting against her enemies behind the scenes, but xiran's wu is a "no nonsense action girl who takes no shit from men" same with Li whose allegedly based on emperor taizong, he wasn't some "uwu himbo" he was a man of mostly turkic ancestry, a great administrator and pretty fucking brutal and violent when he needed to be
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looked it up and your right, most of the top liked reviews are negative and most are pointing out similar complaint that despite the protagonist claiming to liberate all women, actively despises and belittles every female character she comes across and seems to hate her womanhood in general and considering zeitan is basically a self insert of xiran and xiran is a enbie, it kinda fits
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Her parents own a massive house in Vancouver BC and that speaks for itself. Xiran also owns a house there too. She takes a lot of her “cosplay” shoots around her parent’s house.
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she's reading those violent delights written by one of her fellow rich chinese dispora friends, chloe gong, my absolute favorite detail about this book is despite the main plot being a retelling of romeo and juliet in 1920's Shanghai with a gang war allegory, the male love interest is a white russian guy, like omfg its utterly convoluted how she managed to put her preface for white dudes set in a story in 1920's china, this is what the protagonists are supposed to look like
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yeah seeing an author make memes of their own work is weird asf and a type of cringe you really didn't think possible, there's this fakeness to the whole thing but also cringly earnest as well
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Maybe it's because YA and MG fiction these days is only full of tropes anyway and it's rare to see any originality, but she really wants to describe her books as "this famous work but with Chinese characters".
Aside from the cringiness of making memes of your own damn book that no one other than your deluded fans give a fuck about, this is literally the plot of Darling in the Franxx. Could she make it any more obvious?
I bought the book secondhand for $5 after seeing someone mention it in MTF general (because she made a Tiktok saying TERFs hate it - not sure how she'd know that, it just sounds like a marketing scheme) just because I want to experience this utter disaster for myself.
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don't forget her insistence that JK Rowling was directly was responsible for the suicide of her TIF friend
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is moviebob considered part of breadtube ?
Anyone thin-skinned enough to kill themselves for taking a stand against a fucking children's book should've been closely monitored by friends and family. They'd have likely committed suicide over something else minor regardless of Rowling's tweets. To act like this is Rowling's fault at all is manipulation - she's not responsible for what every mentally ill teen does in the name of her franchise.
A normal person would either just ignore it, block and move on or close their Tumblr account at the absolute worst.
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well here's her pretentious why I'm non-binary despite presenting 100% as female rant
>People are frequently confused to why I'm nonbinary even though I'm so "hyperfeminine." In honor of #PRIDE , lemme clear some things up.
>I've never felt a strong attachment to the label of Woman, or the concept of being gendered at all, before my nonbinary revelation, I only went along with it out of convenience, and I still do the same in circles that don't recognize Nonbinary as a thing you can be.>"But gender roles aren't that rigid anymore! You can be a woman and still do XX!" some people say, but that's not the issue here. There are those who work hard to expand what the social construct of "woman" looks like and encompasses. I applaud their efforts and will always stand with them in solidarity, but it has nothing to do with how I just don't want to be a woman at all, while not wanting to be a man either. No matter how the label of "female" is expanded, I don't feel attached enough to it to squeeze myself in if I don't have to. It makes me much more comfortable to just reject gender labels altogether. >Like most queer people, I've felt like this since I was a kid. It's not a phase. In elementary school, I would revolt any time the teacher split the class into boys and girls, demanding to join the boy team. I hated the very gendered English name my parents gave me, I was known as a "tomboy." In high school, I would pick male roles in drama and RP as a guy online. I wore a tux to prom. I wondered if I was trans, but no, I didn't really want to formally announce myself as a boy either. I just wanted to reject being labeled as Female, To me, me being nonbinary in itself is a challenge to what people associate as Female or Male. I don't believe that in order to be nonbinary, you have to distance yourself from all gender-associated aesthetics and present as a gray-clothed blob, Why must long hair, dramatic makeup, and outlandish clothes strictly label me as a woman? The pretty boys in Chinese historical dramas have flowing long hair and fabulous clothes, and no one questions their gender. If I could grow a beard, I would>My ideal self in my head is 6'4, full bearded, muscular, and has no genitalia whatsoever. And I'd dress and do my makeup exactly the same. But I'm working with the body I've got, folks though I must also clarify that how I and other nonbinary folks feel should not be used to question how binary trans people feel. Some people don't experience gender in a fluid way. They feel strongly attached to a gender identity that isn't the one they were assigned to at birth and they would do anything to transition to it. The existence of nonbinary folks does NOT invalidate that. In fact, it's a similar struggle. I'm sure plenty of binary trans folks have been asked "why do you need to transition when you can be a man/woman and still be XXX?" No, they just don't want to be their birth-assigned gender at all. The difference between us and them is that we don't have a need to transition to another specific gender, while they do, All that being said, I'm personally very pragmatic about my gender identity, especially as a first gen immigrant who has to navigate two different societies. In an ideal world, I would be free from all gendered associations, but in this one, I recognize that I was socialized as a woman and am perceived as a woman by the vast majority of people. Female-centric issues affect me, and I will always be a feminist (though everyone should be a feminist anyway), Even though they/them pronouns are my most preferred ones and they give me a sense of peace, I don't strictly mind being called she/her in casual circumstances >I don't correct people bc I've seen too many instances of them getting defensive like WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR? WHY DON'T YOU HAVE IT IN BLINDING RED LETTERS ALL OVER YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA? HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHEN YOU HAVEN'T MADE A VIDEO EXPLAINING YOURSELF? And I just…don't want to deal with that. I appreciate those of you who stick up for me though. as for terms like Sis or Queen, I mind them even less, because to me, they're no different than calling someone Dude or Bro. So they're 100% okay to use for me. But again, how I feel about these gendered pronouns and terms is not necessarily how all nonbinary people feel. Please be mindful of this. Double check if you're not sure, and don't get so defensive or overly apologetic if you accidentally make a mistake.
calling it right now, she's gonna come at as a TIF by years end
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>>1516944>My ideal self in my head is 6'4, full bearded, muscular, and has no genitalia whatsoever. And I'd dress and do my makeup exactly the same. But I'm working with the body I've got
its interesting that her "ideal male self" is pretty white if you think about it, most chinese guys aren't 6 feet tall, let alone 6'4 and aren't known for their big beards either, her ideal self is way more common in the west
"first-generation immigrant" Show us your parent's tax receipts. now. I hate when rich Vancouverites LARP as minorities and pretend they are victimized when in reality rich Asian people are essentially the dominant culture in Vancouver. There are real struggles for minorities in Vancouver but almost NONE of them apply to the rich minorities. I once had a half-Jewish friend whose father was a rich lawyer pretend that he was a victimized minority… the delusion… Rich people with any marginalized clout will jump and scream at the chance to point out how they are victims
to avoid taking responsibility for real class issues
>>1517094>I think so he spends so much time on Twitter ranting about breadtube type topics even though his content is mostly movie and game critique.
thats literally all of breadtube though, How many if any breadtubers have covered silicon valley censorship? How many breadtubers talk about foreign policy at all? The war in Afghanistan, The Iraqi Civil war, The actual nuisances of the refugee crisis
95% of breadtube's content is just dunking on dumb right-wingers and over analyzing meaningless pop culture
>>1516944>Why must long hair, dramatic makeup, and outlandish clothes strictly label me as a woman? The pretty boys in Chinese historical dramas have flowing long hair and fabulous clothes, and no one questions their gender.> In an ideal world, I would be free from all gendered associations>Not realizing that this is terf and GC rhetoric
It's a bit better than the "I exist outside the binary because i'm super speshal <3" type of enbie. Also you'd think that since she's a first gen immigrant she would the nature of gender as something that is arbitrary (expectations from China vs Canada) while sex is only what matters at the end of the day right?> I just wanted to reject being labeled as Female,
But I thought that sex and gender aren't the same, how can you reject a sex. >My ideal self in my head is 6'4, full bearded, muscular, and has no genitalia whatsoever. And I'd dress and do my makeup exactly the same
If that's how she see's herself then why not look actually masc? Come on where is the fake beard? I agree that she's going to come out as a transman at some point but mostly because she see's herself as a tall bearded man
Every explanation of non-binary is truly retarded and just reveals how sexist and regressive a person truly is.
That's not what she said iirc.
I'm fairly sure her stated reason was that people would hate on her either way (if she got the real dress people would hate on her for having money to frivously spend on a $500 dress - even though $500 isn't that expensive for a designer dress honestly) so she figured she may as well get the shitty sheatshop-made aliexpress dupe which is… A weird conclusion.
I'd rather people make fun of me for being successful enough to afford a dress by an independent artist than for supporting sweatshop labor and art theft if I had the money and platform. With that said, I don't think she was telling the truth, I think she just didn't want to spend $500.
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let me guess she's comes from a well to do immagrant family like xiran and khadija and complains about white people all day and makes political videos with zero sources
No idea about her family but she's a philosophy student at university of toronto. Which means she could be "well to do" or just smart enough to get financial support. To give her credit, her videos sound more like someone's college essay put into video form than a twitter thread ala khadija and xiran. I get the feeling that her entire youtube channel is just one big portfolio to put on a resume.
CJ the X is another canadian breadtube enby, definitely a cultural thing>>1526780>>1526841
Canada producing all these intellectual cows menace to society.
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Samefag, her linkedin account screams overachiever. I don't get well to do vibes, she seems more like contrapoints who is a cow but has a genuine interest in sperging about capitalism and philosophy all day. I question Khadija as a breadtuber, i feel like khadija only has a youtube channel because her acting/broadway career isn't moving that much. Same with Xiran + Lindsey Ellis and their attempts at having a writing career.
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some enlightened quotes from Confucius to start your day
>“An educated woman is like an educated cow”>"Those who cannot be taught, cannot be instructed. These are women and eunuchs.">"Women and low people(either referring to servants or non-chinese foreign salves) are difficult to deal with, If you are too friendly to them, they get out of hand, and if you keep your distance, they resent it
and also picrel
wow, truly he was ahead of his time, no one in the west could match the level of woke eastern knowledge of this superior chinese thinker, but for real its not just that he had Incel views, his writings went on too influence the whole of Chinese civilization and became the state ideology for over 2000 years, it also effected its neighboring states, Korea, Japan, Okinawa and Vietnam, tens of millions of women suffered the most absurd and extreme forms of misogyny cause of this man, a lot of societal issues in modern east asia are cause of his retarded views about how hierarchy in every facet of life is a good thing, the fact this idiot didn't do any research and mentioned him just offhandedly to give some dumb political take is insulting
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He's so fugly now. He's bloated, has sausage lips because of fillers, and his chin has collapsed. He looks like a fat, old, ugly drag queen
Same anon and that's why it's hilarious that these delusional men spends thousands on surgeries that don't do shit. I guarantee that if you see him in person, he still looks like a straight up a man and you wouldn't be able to tell he had surgery.
And okay, even if the surgery does make them "pass" (which I still doubt since so many troons photo edit the hell out of their faces these days), the results are temporary, they're gonna age like men and not all of them are financially well off like Contrapoints so really it's just a waste of money.
I feel like he's trying to look like Blaire White or rather, style his face after him. Funny thing is Blaire White doesn't "pass" in real life so Contra is setting himself up for failure as far as appearance goes.
Then again maybe they don't care because they live their lives online and don't have to interact with the real world all that often.
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yeah I hate to admit it but he was kinda good looking pre transition, now he looks like an abomination. Sad!
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im sick of seeing this picture. i think he was fresh out of his teens the time it was taken. now pic rel was just before he transitioned i think around his mid 20’s and he already looked 40 years old
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she liked a comment from "a uterus-having citizen who is pro-choice".
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did Khadija always have different people editing and researching for her videos or is did she hire them once she got more money?
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one of the people she hired
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and she runs a podcast now.
Sage for sperging, but the flaw in her arguments is that she assumes that men and women are equally as desperate for "love". The reason why women have such high standards these days is not because of capitalism or whatever other convenient scapegoat, its because there's no real incentive to date a guy who's just going to be passive and exist in your presence unless he is insanely attractive. Which, being real, most men aren't. Men seem to need women (see: incels, manosphere, gender ratios on dating apps) but outside of artificial limiting factors imposed onto us by men, women don't really need men (excluding the process of human reproduction). Each woman has different standards, but I think it's a given that if men expect women to be involved with them, that they make it worth their while. People are fundamentally self interested, and it is common knowledge that all relationships are, to some degree, a negotiation. Especially in the case of monogamous romantic partnerships, where women run higher risks and have more to lose by tying themselves down with a man. Once again, to each woman her own, and I definitely do agree that some of the FDS style doctrine is a bit extreme and leans towards trad bs, but it is a GOOD thing that women are learning to be more strategic in relationships, just as men always have.
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samefag again, no wonder canadian breadtubers all sound they same. they all work together kek. cj the x's co-reseacher also worked with khadija and..
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…all the people mentioned so far just did a collab video kek.
Helena is a notable female detransitioner who larps as trad and panders to conservatives now. She was even on FOX with Tucker Carlson about a month ago or so. She's talked about a lot in the detrans cows thread >>1414184>>1544668
It's just a quick poke at Helena. The video is about a debate between Contra's self-insert character and an ex-lesbian fundamentalist Christian. The christian makes a throwaway comment about having started testosterone because she thought she was trans, but it's mostly a quick joke. She's very much written and treated as a self-hating lesbian by the narrative and other characters, and the detrans thing is not given any consideration. (So, either contra was literally just referencing the Helena thing because he's a bitter hon who resents detrans people, or contra thinks that it's normal for some lesbians to incorrectly think they're actually trans men.)
Wealthy Anglo Born With Immigrant Parents Syndrome?
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Absolutely a man. He talks about it in one of his videos, but he generally tries to hide it.
During the interview with a trans man, he avoids referring to himself as cis or trans, which you'd think would be pretty relevant. He also doesn't pitch his voice up in it like he does in his newer vids, so it's a lot easier to hear the trannyvoice.
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I increased the contrast on a still from one of his older vids, and you can see the razor burn on his upper lip n shit lmfao.
He passes decently well through all the voice and visual filters, and I wouldn't have dug through his content to confirm some random farmer's suspicion if he wasn't such a stereotypical internet tranny. jfc, ditch the fishnet gloves and plastic choker, you retarded coomer. You're telling on yourself.
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What’s the deal with Alice Caldwell-Kelly, beyond ruining a decent podcast?
I don’t understand how a Middle Class Brit can become a Scottish, Trans, Muslim, Socialist that also collects HSLD military and police patches and dresses in Red Army uniforms and nobody bats an eye. She applied to be a cop to “own the libs” because “wouldn’t it be funny to have a trans muslim arrest people”, and I’m at a loss here.
People seem to like her because of the engineering podcast, but I can’t put my finger on what’s rubbing me the wrong way here. Doesn’t seem like a committed leftist so much as a contrarian, but I can’t really put into words what’s motivating all this.
This smug bastard constantly bandies about their ridiculous amazon wishlist, made a gofundme because they dropped out of uni and gets multiple patreon donations from all the shitty podcasts they're on.
They appear to live on twitter and uses their scummy followers to dogpile any time any one asks them what the fuck they're doing. They don't stand for anything other than trying to get hollow laughs out of how witty they are.
Apparently doesn't wear their muslin cosplay when it's inconvenient, doesn't worship or even hang out with the muslim community.
I was told she’s never attended a mosque and has nothing to do with the Muslim community in Glasgow.
I understand you only need to say the Shahada, Islam is in your heart, western countries consider religion to be a matter of private faith and not public practice etc., but.. spontaneous conversion to Islam and wearing the hijab implies a level of orthodoxy and commitment, does it not?
I’m loathe to question the sincerity someone’s religious conversion, but I’m puzzled by making so much of the aesthetic, and not seeming to live by the tenants.
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The Muslim larping is a fetish, this tweet made it abundantly clear to me
I guess the thing with Breadtube / the Twitter Left, is nobody can just say that, so now they’re brought on as Islam consultants for videos, used as the resident expert on Islam in the discourse, etc.
I think this is what prevents the online left from connecting to real people. The Emperor has no clothes in so many of these cases, and people outside of the DSA or whatever can plainly see that. Everything is taken as, or at least treated as, sincere and heartfelt, but to people on the outside, who don’t feel like these are their friends they need to stick up for, I don’t know, it’s not great .
I just feel like I’m taking crazy pills because - let’s use the lesser example - a clearly middle class English person calling themselves Scottish, and saying “as a Scot…” is off putting. It feels phoney and weird, and again, if someone claims to be Scottish and clearly isn’t, it comes across as strange that everyone just goes along with it.
you're right, it's also weird how they're the ones who usually turn to islamic fundamentalism and go to Syria to join ISIS>>1545530
I don't like her but at least she dunked on the depp/heard trial. Her vids are so long, I find them hard to watch even when the topic interests me