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Samefag, but speaking of efagz, I just checked what Miley's brother Horseface Trace is doing these days and it appears that he's still milky.
Ronnie Radke is a giant asshole. I've had the mispleasure of meeting him before.>>437407
That doesn't surprise me. White, older men always are entitled like that and I'm sure the fame amplifies that times 1000.
There are many who hate on Rammstein for being leftists and "communists", because of how often they talked about it or even brought it up in songs, are you sure about this?
Most rock/metal fans are men and rather right-leaning, and if most of their fanbase would approve of their real beliefs anyway, then why pose as they opposite?
I'm not surprised, but I do wonder what they meant by vid related.
I remember it being controversial for having a black woman represent Germania.
The conclusion of it is basically them saying that they know they should love their country, but they simply can't bring themselves to do so, because of its bad past.
Some said the use of a black actress is sjw pandering (to trigger
their alt-right fans), others claim it's simply for the aesthetic (red and gold on black skin, like the german flag).
When the trailer aired german media was quick to label them nazis, some jewish organisation even called for an apology - but then the video turned out to be the opposite, so I really wonder about >>437407
Don’t even humor the idea that those tryhards had something deep to say here and hadn’t just gone for the cheap shock value like they always do. Rammstein has been a forced meme since its inception, even their name was chosen to elicit shock. Their whole thing is over-the-top theatrics and trying to push controversy for the sake of controversy, like with that German cannibal killer in early 2000s - they kind of pulled it off back then, I’ll admit. But that’s all they ever had to offer, since their music isn’t even good for the most part; it’s all generic heavy metal riffs and synths that sort of imitate krautrock and industrial, so entry-level metal fans can say it’s ~original~
Anyway, Rammstein used to be pretty good with their controversial image, but now it shows how desperate for attention and out of ideas they must be when they grab for holocaust imagery in the year 20fucking19. Wow, who knew Germany has a history of warmongering? Such hot take, much groundbreaking, this topic hasn’t been dissected to death by any kind of German media before!
I didn’t even have a problem with this band, back when they seemed to embrace their place in pop culture as barely-alternative, entertaining edgelords and had a sense of humor about it.
But if they really are trying to claim some kind of moral high ground with their cool political video, while conveniently ignoring their actual neo nazi fans in Russia… they can go eat a bag of rancid dicks
Rammstein can literally show themselves as victims
of Nazis and shot Nazis in the face like in this video and people still choose to misinterpretate them. Dumb as hell.
Ronnie Radke is the biggest “Rockstar” cow there is IMO
- was in prison for manslaughter yet still had fans waiting for him and supporting him throughout
- made shitty music his whole career including his horrific attempt at trying to rap
- has assaulted fans, been accused of abuse by multiple ex girlfriends and groupies
- is now dating Paige from WWE who had a bunch of videos leaked of her sleeping with a married man, her ex and threesome with her co worker and said married man
Honestly they both make me cringe so much
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Just saw this thread. Im excited because rock star cows are my bread and butter. Pic related, Anthony Kiedis who has a rep for whipping his dick out whenever and wherever and is one of the biggest cows in the business.
Ew, I already knew he was a druggie and a rapist but the dick thing? That’s really a cherry on top.
Any more deets on this guy, anon?
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To answer everyone's first question.
I remember when the news first broke about all the shit he'd been up to, on a message board someone shared a link to his profile on a (non illegal) porntube site. One of the clips was him fucking his own ass with the large end of a baseball bat
I'd say he had no problem getting that phone in..
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it's really amazing. people like this need to have their rights revoked tho. like, i remember all my 12 yo friends swooning over him (pic related) with obviously no idea of how much he should've been shoved face first into a woodchipper. like, just a normal "alt" singer dude, but damn, you truly never know what massive pieces of shit men are under their effeminately tousled hairdos. i see "this guy" at local coffeeshops all of the time. i bet some of them are similarly fucked.
Yeah he's pure disgusting. Just kill him. One of the worst things I read was that transcript.
Just goes to show you how protected pedos are in jail. That's just a meme that they get raped and shit.
Yeah he really is proof that incels are wrong when they claim that all mens problems are caused by women not putting out. This guy had so many women (and teens) throwing themselves at him and worshipping him.. it wasn't enough
Watching the music vid for 'A town called hypocrisy' is pretty fucked up now
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Lol no, the immense porn stash and related crimes are what he is currently imprisoned for. Don't read the pdf transcript of his first trial if you value your sleep.
KF has a thread on William Control, too.https://kiwifarms.net/threads/emo-musician-william-control-ex-aiden-accused-of-running-sex-cult-police-decline-to-prosecute.44600/
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I feel like this band (or bands in general) is on the downlow…err, was. I’m probably reaching pretty hard with this and they could’ve all been hetero life-partners at best but these vintage pics are very Abercrombie-esque.
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Bonus pic of Kirk and Lars’ dick shots
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Btw remember when Axl Rose used to be hot? Yeah, me neither
(PS: got every single one of ‘em from Pinterest while looking at how hot Al Jourgensen used to be back in the 80’s)
I have my personal theory that alt women are so desperately starved for guys who make any effort with their own image that guys who were a 2 as a normie become a 10 once they grab some eyeliner and sing a song that women can relate to, and the worst kind of men work out how to abuse this pretty fast.
Their shitty behavior goes further unchecked as they surround themselves with other bad musicians, young audiences without the life experience to recognise red flags, and the idea of performing a Rockstar persona gives them something to use as a scapegoat.
That's girls who are in any male dominated group
Like gamers, sciencey girls, mechanic groups,
There's like 4* types of women who are in these groups
1)of course the attention starved girl who didn't get enough attention growing up so they cling to whatever slightly interests them if any at all that's male dominated, and of course cling to any sleezy disgusting male who's looks they can deal with that show them attention, shuwu is an example of this
2) girls who are genuinely interested in whatever hobby or group it is but are so use to the males being pieces of shit that they have incredibly low standards for men that a man not beating every woman he sees and showering once in a while is enough
3)the women who genuinely like the hobby and act mentally stable about it
4)dykes, they fit in well and most people usually don't care about them or involve them in drama when they're involved with said groups
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It's true but you didn't have to say it
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the girl's reaction tho. Same girl, so same lmao
But I totally get what you mean, anon. >>447162>>447164>>447165>>447167>>447173>>447174
so I ike to add one
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(Couldn’t find an uncensored version sniffle
Anyway…he likes it
Just scrolling by.
Who are these hunks?
lol i remember this
he was also (allegedly) fucking jeffree star at the same time as those photos were taken back when jeffree was just fucking and sucking every single famous person he could to get more famous
He's a cunt but she grabbed his shirt first. A lot of people, not just celebs, are triggered
when people pull and stretch their clothes.
Honestly I'd be pissed if a guy did this to me and if the fucker had hair long enough, I might've yanked it back to prove a point.
Reminds me of this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Blythe_manslaughter_case
He shoved a kid off the stage which led to severe head injury and death.
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Drummer from Godsmack gets triggered
by Blabbermouth comments. In fact, every other rocker/rock star gets triggered
by Blabbermouth comments.http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/shannon-larkin-if-you-wanna-see-some-godsmack-haters-just-go-on-blabbermouth-net/
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pretty much any band/musician covered by blabbermouth is a lolcow. and more often than not, an example of why men with long hair after 40 just get sadder and sadder with each passing day.
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(not that aging rockers who accept reality always get the best haircuts, of course)
B-but Junior’s not a lolcow though, the only thing thing lulzy he ever did/does is compared SuperCollider to Killing Is My Business and sucks Big Dave’s cock when interviewed.
Dave, Metallica sends their kind regards to get better soon (lol jk)
not surprised about bjork. something about her has always rubbed me the wrong way. like the whole sweet and gentle, quirky mpdg princess from the hinterlands deal was all affectacious. it's just too retarded and annoying to be real.
i totally believe that about thom yorke as well after he left his wife when she had cancer. that shit is unforgivable. imagine being famous and knowing all eyes are on you and STILL being so high on yourself that you think it's socially acceptable to leave a spouse - the mother of your children, no less! - with fucking cancer. she ended up dying from it, too. i would be embarrassed and ashamed to do such a thing without having my every move watched, but that he knows all of his actions will be observed and STILL thought it acceptable or forgivable means his head is literally up his own asshole and that he thinks he's a god or something
Can you tell something more about Lana?
Damn, I knew that Thom Yorke is a douchebag.
and others who asked about lana:
lana is very pretty in person, especially when her makeup isn't done. she's also super quiet and somewhat shy? maybe just quiet around people she doesn't know well but every single time she passed by me in the hall (we have to stand in one spot for hours, it can get boring) she would smile and do a small wave. we're there the whole time the artist is on site, so it's a long day/night. anyhow, after the fifth wave and smile she poked her head out of the doorway and told me to come in and have some food and a beer. i said that i wasn't supposed to, but she was very smiley and insistent. this is really against all the rules, but if the artist likes you, the venue also can't say or do too much about it. there were about ten people in the room with her, plus her sister chuck, who was also very nice. there are a few people who are like that, i just didn't expect her to be one of them. i have seen her twice since then and each time she says "hi! how have you been?" she comes across as very sweet, so if it's an act, i'll be the first one to say that i'm shocked.>>457746
you are spot on about bjork. the whole sweet and quirky thing is a total facade. she's a nasty alcoholic (she's also been at my venue a few times so after a while you start to get a picture of them as people) and she has a very hard, unpleasant edge to her. her daughter isadora is gorgeous but completely overshadowed by her mom and also bjork seems to be sharp-tongued with her. she is not comfortable aging, i don't think and is jealous of her kid.
i was put into a bad position because she did go after the girl, and i had to call the undercover cops who work the venue, which was not good. the girl she hit said that everything was fine and there was no trouble which i'm sure was because she wanted to keep whatever job she had, but yeah. bjork also picks her nose non-stop.>>457755
divas are usually who you'd think they'd be. they can be nicer or nastier to varying degrees but they are all crazy full of themselves. what's interesting is that sometimes they are just flat out crazy, period. stevie nicks is definitely living in a dreamworld that has no connection to reality and has many handlers in her immediate group. also, she still gets high even though she says she's clean. the rest of fleetwood mac are wary of her since the guy who used to be her boyfriend in the seventies got kicked from the band, at her say-so. christine mcvie is very cautious around her. i think stevie sees them all as dispensable and to be fair, she's not exactly wrong on that point. people leave to go to the bathrooms and bars in droves when she's not singing or on stage.
beyonce is a nice-ish diva. rihanna is pretty middling in terms of how she treats people, depending on her mood. she can be nasty but i've only ever seen typical diva behavior. grace jones is a total diva in a very old school way, but fun to be around. she's wild and drinks tons of champagne before a set, and then makes a lot of blanket statements about life and art and whatever which can be funny. if she gets talking about people like andy warhol her stories are amazing. her body is also ridiculous for a woman her age, she is super fit and i hope i can be like her. she just doesn't give a shit and is really likable.
the people from godspeed you! black emperor are totally out there but also cool and will slip you a beer or whatever to help pass the time.
marilyn manson is a pig. rob zombie is a pig. sheri moon zombie is verrry full of herself when she does come to a show, the rest of the time he's out there fucking.
that's all i can think of.
if you live in a city with a big venue, the job isn't hard to come by and it doesn't require any special knowledge. mine pays okay because it's inside a park, so it's on city land and in terms of pay i'm technically a city employee. the place i work at starts you off inside the theater, seating, taking tickets, all the stuff that you see people do for you when you go to a show, or at the gates taking tickets and checking bags. after a while we're allowed to pick our positions, kind of. i worked VIP deck and then i moved over to talent security. we have our own, and the artist has their own as well, but it's usually a member of their entourage.
it's actually more fun taking tickets and seating, you get to run around more and see the show. my job is pretty quiet and the thing that makes it interesting is overhearing conversations, or when someone is either really nice or a total asshole. i'm probably going to ask for a house position next season. it's a fun job.
nothing personal to share on the palaye royale guys but i've heard (along with everyone else) that they're assholes.
>>457869>christine mcvie is very cautious around her.
I always did see christie as being the more adult one while Stevie would throw a childish fit. This is probably the reason she wasnt in the band for a while.
Are you taking about Lindsey Buckingham? Didnt he practically start the band together with Mick Fleetwood? His guitar is amazing, how can she kick him out?
ntayrt, but there was a big deal last year or so where the band kicked LB out. It turned out to be Stevie who wanted him gone, and they replaced him with the guy from Crowded House and one of Tom Petty's Heartbreakers.
Two guys to do one person's job lol. Then while the new FM was on tour, Lindsay had a massive heart attack, and his vocal chords were fucked while they were operating. It's been ugly ever since, with his wife subtweeting at them every time they play Go Your Own Way and basically calling them all out for being cunts. Fleetwood Mac are giant cows and it seems like they've always been, they love drama.
Alissa White-Gluz is maybe not a full blown cow but I think she at least deserves a mention here.>Used to be lead singer of the Agonist, left and joined Arch Enemy (a bigger and more famous band) when the lead vocalist Angela Gossow left (Angela Gossow still manages Arch Enemy)>(Reportedly) didn't tell her bandmates that she had started singing in a new band, was trying to juggle both bands at the same time and is now on bad terms with the Agonist who has a new singer>Is a staunch vegan and will mention it in any interview>Is straight edge and will mention that in pretty much every interview too>(Reportedly) is an asshole to fans>Dating Doyle von Frankenstein from the Misfits who is also vegan
some scandal happened with her band a while back, a summary goes like>Woman who owns clothing company uses photo of Alissa wearing her clothes on BUSINESS Instagram account without permission from photographer>Photographer emails IG account, asks for them to pay a licensing fee (to a charity)>Marta (woman who owns the clothing company) gets confused, emails Arch Enemy>Photographer gets an email asking what the problem is, he thinks it's from Marta, so he says something along the lines of "you used a photo without my permission, please pay a licensing fee etc">Realizes after he sent the reply that the email was actually from Angela Gossow, not Marta, goes into "oh shit" mode, emails Angela again explaining the situation>Angela is an ass about it, tells him he's banned from future Arch Enemy shows>Photographer reaches out to Alissa to try and explain the situation>Alissa is an ass, ignores the actual points he made, accuses him of blackmailing, calls him a misogynist and says that he should be thankful he's getting "exposure" as payment and shouldn't ask for a licensing fee>Alissa makes instagram posts misrepresenting the situation completely but disables comments
If you're interested you can watch the video, it's the photographer explaining the situation, you can also read the original emails here https://www.metalblast.net/blog/how-i-got-banned-from-photographing-arch-enemy/
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But isn't Braco your fave megadeath memeber lmao
Thanks for the hard kek with your respond lol>>457737>>457869
I'm so not surprised with Lana, because I heard so many times about her being so chill and friendly to people. This reminded me of when somebody back on tumblr posted about being invited backstage into her dressing room to smoke some weed with her.
I've read/heard a lot of nice things from people who worked behind the scenes with or met Rammstein. But whatever, if anyone in that band could qualify as a cow, its Richard. He's a serial cheater, cheated on his exwife with her best friend, later had a kid with said friend, and says he's "too polyamorous" for a relationship. Last year he also put his 7 year old kid in a really inappropriate music video for his shitty vanity project Emigrate. Seriously, who the fuck jumps all over a scantily clad model in the same video that their young daughter appears in. Even his ex was liking comments on instagram about him being ageing, insecure and cliche. his daughter is gonna cringe hard at that awful video when she's older.
Also he had a hilarious phase a few years ago where he was dressing like some extremely outdated hot topic reject with stripey shirts, red and black nail polish and a talk-to-the-manager haircut, he looked so fucking dumb and way too old for it. Cant find a good picture now but he looked awful haha
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So she’s kinda like the Onision of metal irl? Meh, I rarely listen to her shit anyway. Speaking of the agonist, their current singer revealed that Alyssa was sabotaging their plans to release their upcoming album. >>459600
Why is he called “braco”? Speaking of which…https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/david-ellefson-on-how-he-has-survived-in-megadeth-all-these-years-i-know-my-place/
Aside from Jason Newsted, he’s another bass player I’m starting to feel sorry for. Dude really comes off as a doormat, I wonder what Big Dave did to break Junior’s spirit when he came back to the band? Then again, Dave’s wife looks spiritually beaten down and submissive compared to her past self in the Megadethized videos on YouTube
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are rammstein members some kind of fuck buddies or something? they've been hinting about themselves possibly being bisexual, maybe with the exception of oliver.
This is pretty much how Michael Anthony was treated in Van Halen. It's weird to me that David Lee Roth is often portrayed as the bigger asshole in the group when the Van Halens have been shitty to pretty much everyone who's been in the band. Basically they kicked Michael out of the band for no reason besides wanting to replace him with Wolfgang, despite the fact that Michael is the better singer. The Van Halens were so shitty to Michael that he hasn't spoken to them in fifteen years. Funny thing is, Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony are friends and have been in bands together in the years since Michael was booted.
Yeah, Dave had some douchey theatrics and a really bad coke problem, but the dysfunction clearly didn't end when he left. The Van Halens are talented guys, but they're total control freaks. I have no idea how they managed to get Dave back on board. Probably money.
They do put on a good live show. I saw them back in 2015. They hold up better than most bands their age, at least.
>Why is he called “braco”?
Anon called him braco because he resembles this guy from the vent thread pic >>457360
. I thought it was hilarious and pretty accurate lol
I just checked on him today since I came across him in a wiki article and made me wonder what he is up to these days and looks like he is doing art stuff, which makes him happy which I find really wholesome to see tbh. Good for him!
I’ve read that it was Shawn Drover (ex-drummer) that got him back in the band via text pretty much stating “now it’s the time for you and Dave to talk”. I have a feeling that him and Chris Broderick couldn’t deal with Dave’s psychotic self and needed David to stand guard.
I’ve seen their recent live footage on YouTube and hope to see one day (staying optimistic!), I too want to mosh to Hangar 18.>>459707
I see it now kek
Damn, he aged better than Kirk and Lars and with very little grays unlike James.
She's nowhere near as bad as Onision who is a literal child predator, I wouldn't compare the two, unless you just mean in terms of being obnoxiously vegan.
But yeah, sabotaging The Agonist's new album totally sounds like her, I can believe she would do that. She's a narc which sucks because I used to like her.>>459671
I've met Alissa a couple of times and she's a huge asshole honestly. She blatantly has no time for fans. Last time I met her my friend asked her to sign his CD and she looked at him like he'd just murdered her entire family. Her live vocals are pretty weak too. >>459726
Last time I saw Megadeth, Dave was suffering. At the time people were talking shit that he was shitfaced again, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was due to his cancer. This was a couple of years ago tho. He was missing notes everywhere on his guitar and he was incoherent.
Idk if people even remember this guy but Andy McCoy from Hanoi Rocks honestly is lolcow tier too, he's a druggie and rages and still holds on the past glory on being in Hanoi Rocks when the band was more popular.
Too bad there's no english subs but a hilarious video of him raging at some poor dj for playing music he doesn't like starting at 0:45, he begins by yelling at the guy how he's going to kill him if he ever sees him in townhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qSaoWKdIxk&t=0m45s
Yeah Bam Margera even has a tattoo of him on his arm, apparently.
He also hung out with Mötley Crue guys which ended up with Vince killing one of their band members, Razzle, when he was driving drunk (Vince is a fucking lolcow too)
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Is there any general consensus on William Control (William Roy Francis) yet?
I honestly have no patience to watch his videos disproving the allegations (I have hard time with abuse and bdsm in particular)
I really loved his music, but the whole sex cult thing blowing up…
I've read the original blog and of course I believed the women immidiately, I believed his wife, he too seemed super-guilty with announcing he's going to not make music anymore and goind dark on social media.
But then the guy comes over with half a dozen of videos about how every woman who accused him was a liar and suddenly everyone loves him again and forgives him? Is there actual definite proof in those videos? Do people just take his side again because he's a man in position of power and these are his fans?
I genuinely loved some of his music even if it was very sexual and the guy seemed like a douche very often. But now I really don't know what to do since I miss his music, but thinking that the person who wrote it actually did all these terrible things, sickens me.
Do I death-of-the-author myself because I still like maybe 5 songs of his? Does that make me a piece of shit?
NTA, but I fucking hate Marilyn Manson. I can't think much specific things he's done except be a fucking asshole. Treated his wife Dita von Teese like shit, cheated on her with women including Evan Rachel Wood who later became his main squeeze, then left her too. Then he said something like "I don't trust girls with 3 names" passive aggressively shitting on both of them, when he was the one treating them like shit. Accused the guys in MCR of copying him, I'm not sure why or what for but I think it was bullshit. In this clip he denies a fan a hug, then has this other guy take of his shirt, and the guy looks super awkward and embarrassed.
Also he just comes across as a massive asshole in interviews. I'm sure there are other things he's done.
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Men age like wine!
I said "less sane" because I haven't heard of Onision literally cutting his own face or otherwise self-harming to manipulate his victims
No, but he filmed his wife having memory problems then posted it on youtube and made videos acting like he's going to commit suicide to get his viewers concerned, I wouldn't be surprised if he did the same thing to his victims
. I don't get how that's more sane compared to MM.
Because one is manipulative and scheming, while the other is outright self-harm and self-destructive behavior out of pure spite and
Anon, MM is a prick and a piece of shit, and so is Onion boy. They are both edgy garbage men in their own special ways.
It's okay to acknowledge this while also having a bit of nostalgia or fondness about the former's artistic work. An artist is not always as good as their art.
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idk they seem happy together and I mean she is 48 now. I know people see things different but at least she wasn't some barely legal chick that he got his hands on. I find Mick Jagger way more problematic
tbh. This guy fucked around like a damn rabbit. Now he has 8 children with 5 different women. His current gf is younger than his oldest daughter jesus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Jagger#Relationships
This also made me check on Jimmy Page, because the last time I've heard that he started to date some 24yr old "actress" in 2015 and looks like they are still a thing ….
But speaking of the music done by Blackmore: Besides the Deep Purple stuff, I really dig the supergroup Rainbow which he had done with Dio.
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bruh like Jimmy page kidnapped a 14 yo babygroupie and kept her in his hotel room and tried to hide it pretty well. apparently dumped her for bebe buell who was legal but damn like 27 iirc and 14 and they were together a while…
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also kek @ this pic of page and his gf. literally looks like her parents are forcing her to visit her gramps at the convalescent home in exchange for a tory burch purse
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I will never un-see the resemblance between lori (said 14yr babygroupie) and his second wife, which he also married when she was 23 (he was 50 when they met).
david bowie fucked her too apparently. took her virginity, actually. she was 14. page dated her at 14 for 2 yrs, hid it. lori's story about bowie:
>He focused his famously two-colored eyes on me and said, “Lori, darling, can you come with me?” Sable looked like she wanted to murder me. He walked me through his bedroom and into the bathroom, where he dropped his kimono. He got into the tub, already filled with water, and asked me to wash him. Of course I did. Then he escorted me into the bedroom, gently took off my clothes, and de-virginized me.
>Two hours later, I went to check on Sable. She was all fucked up in the living room, walking around, fogging up windows and writing, "I want to fuck David." I told him what she was doing and that I felt so bad. Bowie said, “Well, darling, bring her in.” That night I lost my virginity and had my first threesome. The next morning, there was banging on the door and it was fucking [Bowie’s wife] Angie. I was terrified of her. David said not to worry about it. They were already at the point where they had separate rooms. She probably knew he’d be in there with girls… or boys. He was totally bisexual. I saw David many times after that, for the next 10 years, and it was always great.https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/music/david-bowie-and-the-15-year-old-girls-7962946>>462880
he's definitely a creep. like how do they compartmentalize the fact that they're old as fuck? like being with a young young guy would just make me feel worse in comparison. how are men that are one foot in the grave able to fuck young women and like, dissociate from the fact that they're 80 years old???
More well known musicians who've had relations with children:
Joel Madden from Good Charlotte
Pete Doherty (old ontd link beacuse this one isn't well known: https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/3613192.html
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oh wow, i didnt realize hilary was only 16 when she dated joel madden (24). they dated for 3 years.
this shit though:> 17-year-old Hayden Panettiere dating 29-year-old Milo Ventimiglia
jesus. i didnt even know that happened.
let us all not forget joe jonas asking gigi hadid out at 13 though
Candice was around 20-21 when they met, I would say that's barely legal, I guess 'barely legal' doesn't have a strict definition though so it would depend on who you ask. At any rate she was less than half his age which still makes it gross to me. It doesn't seem as bad now that they've been together so long though. Mick Jagger is a fucking deplorable human though, ew.>>462851>It's okay to acknowledge this while also having a bit of nostalgia or fondness about the former's artistic work. An artist is not always as good as their art.
Um.. okay? No one here said it wasn't okay to do that?
Okay, I take it back. Marilyn is as/more insane than Onion.
Of course this stuff may not be true, kind of like how there was that rumor that he got his rib removed so he could suck his own dick that turned out to not be true, but I still wouldnt be shocked if the stuff you said was true.
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Are we getting a SKOM sequel? Maybe this time Jason will be back in in band and we will get another cringey Dave/Lars interview! fingers crossedhttps://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallicas-james-hetfield-re-enters-rehab-for-addiction-australia-new-zealand-tour-postponed/
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oh wow I was just thinking the other day about how and why metallica are going around and promoting their own Whiskey, with the history of alcohol abuse within the band (especially James). But well, here we are.
Then again I feel like a completely ass for saying this but I really liked his ~vibe~ he currently had, saw 'tallica in June and I liked James performance a lot more compared to when I saw them in 2017, bc now he had a touch of good ol' James, which had a reason as we see now lol
(And it was also the 33th anniversary of Cliff's death yesterday.)
>we will get another cringey Dave/Lars interview!
Idk Dave is out there on facebook and talking about how he wished to have more time with his Fam and mentioning long goodbyes. Also he promotes his megadeth beer ffs.https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/megadeths-cancer-stricken-frontman-dave-mustaine-my-doctors-are-feeling-very-positive-regarding-my-progress/
>Maybe this time Jason will be back in in band
I would love it to see Newkid era Metallica live back in the heyday but this guy is better off doing his art and living a happy life without all that.
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Dave: please Lars, let’s have another Big 4 show, I have cancer and don’t have much time left
Lars: aren’t the doctors working with you on that? Something about 90% chance?
Dave: yeah but… I missed you guys, except Kirk! Please let me get back in the band? sniffle
Can you still drink alcohol while in treatment? There’s videos on the Megadeth beer social media of his kid pouring beer on meat in the family grill as well
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Probably doing that while enjoying the Florida scenery and doing artsy fartsy shit with his hot wife
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>Can you still drink alcohol while in treatment?
I guess yes as google told me? >>467158
>tfw no artsy fartsy experience with jason
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Anyone have deets on Dorthy or MSI?
I'm sure there has to be some on MSI, because I remember when my friend and I went to one of their shows back in high school that Jimmy was spitting into the crowd, but was making sure his spit would only land on women and that I got hit right on the neck with some.(14 y/o me didn't mind so much back then but now I'm grossed out by it.)
Also same concert with MSI line up but TBM is really sweet and talked/take pictures with all their fans. And the guys from VNV Nation are also really nice. Also the guys/Floor from nightwish are very down to earth ended up running into them after their show and they took time to talk and take pictures with fans.
Have you ever listened to their first EP? Mindless Self Indulgence (self titled album)
He seems to be, or at least at one point. A huge fucking narc.
I still like their music, but I could easily see at least some of the members being problematic
Also I laugh to myself thinking if they made music like this today. People would constantly trying to cancel them for saying faggot and nigger lmao
to me, his reaction to the rumors was very telling
he's been going on and on for over a year now about how all the metoo accusers are liars, and went especially hard at jessicka from scarling(who is admittedly a cow herself but there is no doubt in my mind shes telling the truth about twiggy)
its like he wasnt even lashing out at the girls who accused him, but women who have come forward about sexual assault in general and it really makes him look bad imo
The only milk on MSI is that they're 3edgy5me. I guess you could consider them offensive, but I've always thought it was pretty obvious that their ridiculous lyrics and personas on stage were meant for shock value/to be absurdist. From my experience, all of the band members come out after shows and are incredibly down to earth and will take whatever picture you want and sign whatever you want. They'll even stop to have a chat with you if people aren't waiting. Your story of Jimmy specifically aiming at women sounds like bullshit but I won't call you a liar. All I can say is I've always liked them from the few shows of theirs I've been to. I have seen random e-girls claiming to listen to them lately which I find funny. I wonder if they even realize how much of MSI's discog is "problematic
" or if they're just doing it superficially for the MCR superfan bonus points.
>>467965>"I used metal picks — they’re brass and copper — which I always held in my mouth, in the exact place where I got the tongue cancer," Van Halen said. "Plus, I basically live in a recording studio that’s filled with electromagnetic energy. So that's one theory. I mean, I was smoking and doing a lot of drugs and a lot of everything. But at the same time, my lungs are totally clear. This is just my own theory, but the doctors say it's possible."
I can't tell if this is Ed being a moron or just general Boomer scientific ineptitude. Dude, you chain smoked for like thirty years, and no matter how long it's been since you quit, your DNA is altered by the carcinogens in the cigarettes.>>467970
Awful as in awful people, yeah. Michael Anthony was the only one who wasn't a tool, and they booted him.
Music-wise, though? They definitely hold up. I saw them live a few years ago and they were fantastic.
I might be biased because I've always been a fan of MSI/ MCR and basically grew up with them, but generally they're known to be pretty down to earth people in spite of the edgelord music and stage antics. the band is on hiatus and Jimmy and his wife straight up moved to new zealand to start a family around the time he put his solo record out, he just strikes me as someone where the over-the-top edgy problematic
stuff is part of his brand, not who he actually IS, unlike the marilyn manson types. Lyn-z is a painter and I think had a gallery show with Frances Cobain semi recently.
however, Jessicka of JOJ is a huuuuge cow and comes off as an absolutely batshit insane unhinged narc, like azealia banks/ globelamp levels of internet sperging. I'll post links if I find any but I know there's a lot of screenshots and timelines of events out there over the last few years that might still be up on twitter/ tumblr. basically she used to be close with Lynz but they had a falling out and Jess completely turned on that entire "coven" friend group and all msi/ mcr affiliated people. she has talked copious amounts of bullshit that I can't keep track of. I haven't heard much of her recently but the last bit of drama I remember was when she vaguely hinted at accusing Gerard of sexual assaulting someone and then immediately took it back, she does a lot of weird shit like that where she accuses without any evidence to back things up and then backtracks. she's known to make sockpuppet accounts and has been caught editing shit, making false statements and essentially only saying things to make her enemies look bad without any sort of believability. which sucks because I usually feel strongly about believing victims
/ survivors, but she just gives me very gross sketchy shady vibes that I can't quite explain.
again I would take this with a grain of salt, I don't have all the receipts on hand/ events memorized and I'll admit I'm more biased towards Lindsey and Gerard, but even if I weren't a fan of them they just come off way easier to believe. like they're well-adjusted, their fan interactions are sweet and they keep to themselves, making their art/ comics and raising their daughter in peace. Also the younger mcr emo stans have a weird inclination towards villainizing lynz because, yknow, no one gets in the way of their precious frerard shipping lmao, so that always makes it hard for me to believe everything I read just given the reputation that the fanbase has.
also there was that big thing with Mikey way's affair in like 2013/14 that went public and got pretty nasty on all sides, he got sober and has a family now but it was a whoooole mess and i vaguely remember jessicka accusing lynz and chantal of being involved in spreading that drama around somehow
frank has cringey fan interactions sometimes and is essentially a little twitter troll but also seems to be an okay person and I enjoy his solo projects a lot. haven't heard much about anyone else from that circle, I think Mikey wrote a comic recently and Ray did a song collab with Gerard for the Umbrella Academy soundtrack? but no milk that i know of
my cousin saw TBM like a decade ago and I remember being so jealous as a little wannabe goth kid that she got to meet Chibi, she said they were one of the nicest bands out of all the shows she's gone to.>>457869>>457737
the lana stuff is super believable based off what i know, but the bjork tea sucks to read about! disappointed but kinda…. not really that surprised
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OH also, sorry for samefag but came back to add that chantal claret (jimmy's wife) issued this statement on twitter a year ago. knew i was missing something.
now that I'm remembering more details, jessicka genuinely has enough dirt on her to warrant her own thread. she's been at it for years now
Late af but I was raped by this asshole about 10 years ago and never came forward due to being ashamed of buying into his shit/being a dumb (legal) teen. Probably not gonna check this thread again due to ~the triggering
~ but can confirm he's not a nice guy and definitely uses his image to treat women like crap.
Jessicka is definitely one of those edgy little self harming mental illness having but placing the blame on everyone else for her problems and still acts like a highschooler despite being way too old for that kind of shit kind of person.
She also had a thing for being offensive for the sake of being offensive before social media was a thing. Take a look at some of her lyrics. Including one where she repeatedly calls a guy a fag. Surprised the SJW crowd doesnt bring that up kek. I do believe her about Twiggy though.
On another note, Chibi really is super sweet. Honestly all of the band is. I did have my reservations about Nathan at first because of the crowds he ran in before joining TBM but he's just really quiet and kind of awkward but harmless. One of the things that makes the members decent is that they all have their own things going on and their own groups of friends. Most of them are in relationships with non celebrities and they dont hang out too much with other super popular musicians. Almost all of their musician friends are in the indie goth circuit and I do think that makes a difference.
I believe you. I wish there was some way for there to be a real push for a metoo kind of situation for rock musicians. Because it seems most of the time the allegations get pushed under the rug compared to mainstream actors and such. Myspace days were actually a HUGE breeding ground for so many of these musicians to stalk and harass underaged girls if not outright rape them. Very few of them got caught. I remember when Tripp from Static X/Dope/Murderdolls was caught and he lied and said it was an impersonator lol.
I know of many that were suspected of if not outright witnessed doing these things. Im sure plenty of people have stories. Its just that a lot of people who have those things happen to them at a young age either A. Feel ashamed and like its their fault, or B. Feel theres nothing wrong with the situation and it was just some fun wild thing that happened to them and they see it more positively than they probably should.
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I know that he was old af but I fucking love Cream and this makes me really sad rip https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/legendary-cream-drummer-ginger-baker-dies
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and I like to add this one: I saw Nick Mason last year i concert and I had a good laugh about how when he said what a difficult companion Waters was and how much easier it was when he left floyd lmao. After all those years, he will remain forever salty that he couldn't be pink floyd but had to share this position with the other three guys.https://q1043.iheart.com/content/2019-10-03-roger-waters-says-he-tried-to-make-peace-with-david-gilmour-this-summer/
>>469841>literal retard>China , Russia , Cuba and Iran stealing all Venezuelan resources for free is not interventionism uwu >Muh the oil belongs to the dictatorship that run the industry of the worlds top producer to the ground reeeeeee don't mess with their billions in offshore accounts fascists!!!
I hope he dies and people like you too.
t. a venezuelan
NTA and I know I'm really late but here is an article talking about his 1998 autobiography, The Long Hard Road out of Hell>"After an opening scene in which Manson recalls watching his cross-dressing grandfather masturbate to pictures of bestiality, he recounts his own exploits, including burning off a groupie's pubic hair with a cigarette lighter, playing a game with his band that involves spitting into a groupie's asshole, forcing numerous groupies to "confess their sins" while strapped to a homemade torture device, yanking on still another groupie's clit ring before shoving his thumb up her rectum, and generally mistreating one or more women per page.">"The centerpiece of the book is, appropriately enough, chapter 13. Strauss presents it as a straight Q and A with Manson, who brags at length about an incident in a Miami recording studio involving a deaf groupie named Alyssa–a pseudonym that's close to her real name, according to a source who knows her. The girl likes metal because she can feel the vibrations of the music, and she is thrilled to be invited into Manson's lair. Once there, she is stripped to her boots and covered in raw meat."
>"Next, Alyssa is sodomized by guitarist Twiggy Ramirez and keyboardist Madonna Wayne Gacy with their dicks taped together, fucked by Gacy, peed on by Manson and Twiggy, and joined in the shower by guitarist Daisy Berkowitz. For good measure Manson tosses a dead salmon into the stall, a modern analogue to the infamous shark incident in Stephen Davis's Led Zeppelin biography, Hammer of the Gods."https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/neil-and-marilyn/Content?oid=895894
So I know this is a porn site, so click at your own risk. But basically its a short video in which some porn star girls go around interviewing and trying to fuck rockstars while they're on tour, and get them to talk about some depraved shit.
The very first snippet is Mark from Sugar Ray either admitting to, or joking about fucking girls as young as 11-17.https://efukt.com/22666_GROUPIE_CONFESSIONS.html
The original is 80 minutes long, and theres at least 3 installments. With the second and third appearing to just be straight up porn which Im not linking. Some involving bands including the notorious DOPE(one of those bands that almost every modern post 90s goth musician seems to have been in at some point). Looks like a goldmine of dirt but Im not buying that shit lmao.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160024/
metallica started as a cover band. thats why they are so milky. love it. >>459575
she let him take pictures of her for free. he then wants a licenses fee from an indy clothing company. I agree with the women. its a team and he shouldve just asked for a credit. >>462851
marilyn stole money from his bandmates. come on onision is not on mm par. >>462889
some people say this story probably isnt true. they say during this time she was already seeing page and thats how she was able to slip into bowies. >>462889>>462901
in these guys defense the girls are in adult places and look kinda old. i know women so i know this picture of gigi is suspicious but this picture could past for 17/18/19.
2.these girls then present themselves as worldly women.
I have sympothy for -i met her at the club- stories. cause the girl went there to deceived and he fell for it.
2.by getting the girl young or by jumping on every girl they are cutting the chance that their friend has banging her. some guys dont want to be number 11. you guys can get mad but its the truth. thats why a lot of sluts get cheated on. the man never really takes you serious. so watch who you bang.
this was fan service. remember they started off as a cover band. these gay pictures got the women to come in. >>449456
he will never admit it but he hasnt been the same since his uncle vito died. he loved that man and obviously wanted him to be better. >>449711>>449342
this reminds me of afroman. the woman creeped up behind him and he swung. he didnt know it was a woman but it really tarnished him. it wasnt his fault. now rob zombie made a choice to take it further but i still sympathize with him.
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I watched they Taylor Momsen video mentioned here and it's 4 years old but damn she looks bloated in the face. I wonder why, exactly?
hahahahah what the fuck i know this post is old but>nazis>literally made like 3 songs about how much they hate nazis>outspoken commies>talked multiple times in interviews about beating the shit out of nazis in their youth
this post is a trip. are you one of richards groupies who got fucked over by him? kek
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Also a comparison pic for funsies. Hnnng that second pic tho
Sorry for delete+repost
Here's the yt video
I wonder if she regrets her slutty past. Part of me thinks she did it to shed the image of Gossip Girl as bluntly as possible. Part of me also wonders if her management made her dress that way for promotional purposes. Anyway here's the yt link
Thanks and yeah her face does look weirdly bloated in some interviews, botox maybe?
My guess is she was just dressing that way to be edgy like a lot of young female musicians. Seems like all the interviews of her are old. I wonder whats going on with her now.
Top kek anon. I forgot this band existed. Where does she get off criticizing anyone? Their songs have atrocious pick me lyrics and the most generic "radio station rock" beats. The videos are all Hale running around in some mix of leather boots and shorts.
Also the lyrics to Love Bites (So Do I):>I'm nothing like the rest.>I kiss you in a way you'll never forget about me.
She prob had to dress that way to get financial backing from creep managers amd producers.
She's low-key af on instagram. Seems like she likes being isolated in beautiful mountains where she writes. But who knows
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>"I always feel like I have so much more to say on [each] album, but I can't say it," Hammett said. "It's crazy, because I'm so curious about music in general. I can play a lot of different stuff. I'll play some jazz, bossa nova, blues, gypsy jazz, fucking Eastern European ballads. I play all that stuff. But no one knows I can play this stuff. It's so crazy. I'm always trying to sneak in jazz voicings and chords, little techniques here and there in METALLICA."
>When Clark asked Hammett whether he gets shot down by the rest of METALLICA, Hammett responded: "All the time. 'That sounds too bluesy.' And I'm, like, 'Fucking hell, it's just a slide. All right, whatever, tone police.' But you need tone police. Tone is super-important."
Kirk feels like he is not being taken serious and isn't allowed to play things the way he wants to play it. Makes me wonder if he is allowed to have a side project or will he leave the FOCKING band lol … Maybe he could start a band with Jason since I recall an interview with both of them from the early 90s about playing jazz and blues shit together but "couldn't do it more" while being in metallica mmmhhh. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/kirk-hammett-says-some-of-his-ideas-get-shot-down-by-metallicas-tone-police/#commentshttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/st-vincent-kirk-hammett-metallica-musicians-on-musicians-901764/
yupp, and this is the interview that I mentioned above but couldn't find right away. Would be cool to hear what those two made together …
Starts around the 38:00 minutes mark. Looks like Kirk already suffered the way he does now back in 1992.
Poor Kirk, he couldn’t say no to those millions and let his best friend (Jason) take the fall. Was it worth in the end?
Rob is just another hired gun
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I adore Epica but some times they remind me of Disney the way they seem to re-release albums every few years and sell a bunch of new live albums that sound exactly like all of their previous live albums.
Now they're releasing a book and it seems like an obvious ploy for money. I kind of wanna buy it but am also broke.https://epicabook.com/
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> sees Amanda Palmer top trending
> she's harassing random music critics for…. not critiquing her music
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here's the original thread from the guardian writer (1/2)
and yes omfg, any time I hear a decent old dresdon dolls/ amanda song (i say "decent" but it's probably only a bop for me because of the ex scene kid nostalgia bias) i remember her openly admitting to this fucked up bullshit about essentially traumatizing a person for no reason and it ruins it for me. she's truly something
She's also stupidly edgy in the worst ways, remember when she pretended raping a Katy Perry lookalike on stage? What a lovely feminist!
Also her whole Evelyn Evelyn shit where she pretends to be a conjoined CP victim
child just for … the edginess of it all and mocks anyone who dares say it's kind of a shitty and edgy thing to do.
I hate it because in the end, she had a lot of songs that I liked but she's absolutely foul and made even worse how she tries to act like a "woke" feminist despite these things
Good for him! It was said that he ended his therapy, so he is recovering now.
Btw, did anybody catch the story of the "superfan" Keith Gannon that bought all Dave M' Guitars, which he sold on his reverb shop? As you can imagine, megadeth fans were pissed because this guy snagged all guitars so he can have them in his studio, so people can come over and play them there or as he jokingly wrote in the yt comment section, sell them for 5x the price (which is a lie, because people have said that he likes to sell the shit for 20x the price). It was also reported that shortly after, he went to the METALLICA fanclub to find buyers for the newly bought guitars, just to get kicked out of the fanclub lmao>>483474
>Ozzy’s touring with Marilyn Manson
here in europe he is touring with Judas Priest! I still hesitate to go to see ozzy because once I wanted to see him and he canceled the show 12 hours before the show and I had no chance to refund my ticket, which wasn't cheap of course BUT I feel obligated to see this guy at least ONCE in my life since I missed my chance to see him with Black Sabbath or solo. I will prob go and wait a few months before the show because it's now in november 2020, so still some time.
Kinda ot but I saw Marilyn Manson live a year ago (i think?) and it was so disappointing.
The guy got injured during a tour (probably because he’s a druggie) and their solution was to strap his drugged ass to big crusifix. He just hang there whole tour. I wonder if he even knew where he was because no doubt he was heavily meditated.
The whole show was obvious playback and there was no sign of any ambition.
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>"A lot came from people that I knew but I didn't know cared. Most notably, I got a text message back from my old brother, James Hetfield, and I was so, so happy to hear from him. Contrary to what anybody says and contrary to any of the act that we put on, I love James and I know that James loves me and cares about me. You can see that when the moment of truth is here and I'm telling the world that I've got a life-threatening disease. Who comes to stand next to me? James.
Speaking of metallica and james: I had a good chuckle over the fact that they disabled the comments on the latest post on Insta about the blackened whiskey, which last time had a really, really bad timing in terms of james and which seems overall a stupid idea to have when somebody struggles with alcohol addiction …
Why do I get the feeling that James was obligated into talking to Dave? Oh and why hasn’t Lars sent his get-well-wishes yet?
Still waiting for SKOM 2 lel
fuck weezer tbh
you sound like a selfposter
Love it, The Shell Shack is my favorite track. The youtube algorithm recommended it to me a few months ago and the second I heard the into I just had this complete fangirl meltdown. I'm a blue album/songs from the black hole/pinkerton only fan and it was like someone got tired of waiting for weezer to be good again and went "okay, fine! I'll do it myself!". >>488232
different anon, I love this EP lmao.
Okay? I'm >>489485
, this post >>489260
is a different anon. People are allowed like different things. You probably like stuff I consider shitty. Like I said, I haven't even enjoyed anything they've put out since the mid 90s.>>489577
I don't care about your opinion on my taste. Too many male musicians ARE creepy losers. Why are you so worked up about this?
>According to Mustaine, Ellefson has contributed a ballad at the frontman's urging that will feature the bassist's lead vocals for the first time. “I said to him, ‘What was the biggest song that KISS ever had?’ Mustaine said. "He goes, 'Beth'. I said, ‘Yeah, we should write a song like 'Beth', where it's a ballad and it’s just you singing it. I think you should write a song about what it's like being in MEGADETH with me, because I read all your lyrics, and I know that your lyrics are aimed at me. You're upset. So why don't you write about it?'"
>He added: "I'm going to try to work on it now for this record, and if it doesn't get on this record, I'm going to try to work on it on the next record. Because it was actually really cool to see Ellefson writing something and hear him singing."
Holy passive aggression, Batman! On the bright side, old Dave’s back!
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May be late to it but I just found out about Sting and him being an actual pedo. like wtf is this shit??? why do people let this happen??
Still like that song though
Source of this info?
I laughed so much about this. "Some of them" need to get into shape lmao everybody knows that only Vince Meal needs to half his weight because otherwise he won't be able to finish fucking tour, let alone once show.
Video related is prob what fans are going to see anyway.
I've become obsessed with those live videos.
Not related, but the corpse on guitar scares the hell out of me. I find it really creepy that he's pushing 70 while these poor women have to dance around half naked. It's like stripping in a retirement home. Gross.
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Sounds like he's singing "kid stole my hat, give me that back."
Best meme evarrr>>497689>>497696
Kek, gotta love boomer metal
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Ellefson is the only god I pray to.
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What do you guys really went on between Gerard and Frank from MCR ? Their ship Frerard was such a huge thing back in the day and there's still a lot of people saying they were actually together, still writing songs about them missing each other etc. I know fans are obsessed with shipping bandmembers together but I always wondered about these two. They kissed a few times on stage, did stagegay, Gerard is definitely bi from all the "jokes" and stories he's told about sucking dick and making out with guys.
Another thing to wonder about is the probably the more legitimate relationship between Mikey Way and Pete Wentz, those two go way back and it's said they've had an on-off relationship
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They played gay for the fans, just like Metallica earlier in the thread. Gerard however definitely dated Bert McCracken.
Davey Havok and Jeffree Star, on the other hand… Oooof.
kek i used to speak with ivy (davey's former gf) before she got famous and she said he was like mostly gay and she was all upset he "left" her for some "fat asian" that was jeffree's friend. i forgot the girl's name, but davey is gay as fuck. i'm sure he at least messed around with js.>>501400
absolutely nothing. they were queerbaiting for the attention of 15 year old fangirls.
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Davey had a LOT of girlfriends which people always found weird but honestly, I just think he's genuinely bisexual or ~sexually fluid~ and when he was at the height of fame he played up his sexuality immensely the same way a lot of bisexual female musicians who date primarily the opposite sex do.
Fun fact, Jeffree Star also fucked Ian Watkins from Lost Prophets a few years before his pedo shit was discovered. And Ian also dated/fucked Ivy. Small world.
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Was she referring to Brittany? She's nowhere near fat lmao.
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Nobody knows for sure but i'd say they definitely experimented together, Gerard even admitted he kissed him as a joke then they ended up making out for like an hour. They were really close during all the Warped tours they were at together, then Gerard got sober from drugs and alcohol and they slowly grew apart, i've seen people say Bert was annoyed and thought gee got too full of himself because of fame
How do you guys know for sure that Davey is into guys? If he had a lot of gfs as >>501651
said, than he probably is bi at best. I absolutely do not mind him fucking guys, but would love to get some proof about that! I only know about those Jefree Star photos.
Where do you get info about Davey's love life anyway? I know nothing as I am a foreign AFI fan. Would love to get some deets.
All these early 00's band ships, did we just get invaded by a time traveling teenage girl? Next thing we'll have a thread on how Louis and Harry from 1D are totally married.
It's reasonable to assume Gerard or any of the others are bi but all that staged kissing is just them fucking about as close friends at best, baiting at worst. If there was any real dating going on during tours there is no way that it would have stayed secret, with crazed fans, jealous rival bands and roadies watching them at every moment. >>501651>Jeffree Star also fucked Ian Watkins
Any source? I can't even find proof of them ever meeting
What do you mean by “multiple personalities”? takes this post to the tinfoil thread
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Several of his exes have made statements that he has multiple personalities. That post was shared by IG Mansonisabusive
>>502185>It's in the DSM.
so was homosexuality. i don't give a shit. psychology and psychiatry is a crapshoot of guesses and assumptions, some are valid
and some aren't. it has very little backing and is unlike like, every other disorder in its support for its existence and evidence of it, almost all of which is considered contaminated by psychiatrists/psychologists that specialize in it. literally like no country that isn't exposed to the idea of DID actually has sufferers of it, unlike so many other diagnoses. it's bullshit that was only popularized because of a shitty book and miniseries that was later shown to be fraudulent, and at worst, is iatrogenic and still not real. the language is also terrifically unclear and subject to interpretation, especially the interpretation of shyster psychologists seeking to manipulate patients and promote themselves as specialists. most 'cases' are seen by a small number of 'specialists' who have a vested interest in manipulating patients and keeping it alive despite it being controversial. plenty of the patients are malingerers and attention seekers.
this article tackles some of the issues with it: https://www.mdedge.com/psychiatry/article/63686/dissociative-identity-disorder-time-remove-it-dsm-v
>Piper and Merskey’s extensive literature review examined the presumed association between DID and childhood abuse (mostly sexual). They found:>• no proof that DID results from childhood trauma or that DID cases in children are almost never reported>• “consistent evidence of blatant iatrogenesis” in the practice of some DID proponents.
I believe it. I’ve chatted with one of his exes and they claimed he has several fake accounts. She seemed pretty convinced that he has D.I.D.
Something else I’ve heard - apparently Manson left the sink faucet running for his cats while he was away on tour and later complained to many that he had like a $4K water bill. There’s a water shortage in LA and it pissed off people.
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Same Anon, went hunting for something recent on her and this came up. I would literally slap him in the face if that was me, so cringe
Oh yeah, and then he said something like "I don't trust girls with 3 names" throwing shade at Evan and Dita after he treated them like shit. Typical victim
And Floppy still hangs out with him, while claiming to be against abuse, and that she's an abuse victim
>The “assistant” is clearly him on a sockpuppet trying to create pointless manipulative drama.
Oh, I completely agree. Why would his assistant write that without Manson’s approval? And his assistant, Judd, still works for him today but he lied to her that he was fired. If you read her full story on FB it’s even more cringy - https://www.facebook.com/lkbellart/posts/1150988821707729
I used to be a huge fan of his music but I’ve heard and read so much shit about him I can’t support him anymore.
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Dunno if this is worth posting. This is Ash Costello of New Years Day. She doesn't usually display cow behaviour, however, this is cringe as fuck
'daddies'… dear god.>>504939
i think it's pretty milky. when you have a public platform as a performer, you really need to be mindful of what you put out there. i think it's very harmful for women with platforms to put out this image glorifying a fusion of violence and sexuality, and dangerous men in particular. sexualizing violent men, even if they're not real, can impact her fans. women already face enough domestic violence due to the trendy romanticization of abusive
and dangerous men or romanticizing abusive
behaviors, on top of the fact that there's already a possibility to encounter it even when the guy isn't outwardly abusive
if she continually hypes up violent characters as hot/daddy? yeah, it can impact people. maybe not severely, but add to an overall trend that is already present within alt circles. your post is stupid. there are literally people glorifying harley quinn and the joker. i personally know of women who talk about actual, real abusive
men in their lives as the "joker" to their harley quinn. young people are impressionable and everyone knows they take hints from those that they idolize.
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So happy for good ol' Dave. Wishing him the best for the tour. I would go but they only an support act and I'm not interested to see FFDP.
BTW James is officially confirmed to be out of rehab. People already speculated when he deleted his personal Inst page but at the end of the month he will planned to appear at his old timer show. Wonder how his overall appearance will be like.
>Hetfield will be at the museum on January 30, when a ticketed opening reception is being held along with a "fireside chat" and an auction of two of the METALLICA guitarist/vocalist's limited-edition ESP guitars.https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallicas-james-hetfield-to-appear-at-opening-reception-of-reclaimed-rust-at-petersen-automotive-museum/
Aw why did he deleted his Instagram page? I like seeing it from time to time but that’s great he’s finally out of rehab! Hopefully we won’t get another St.Anger out of it kek
Remission or not, I think he’s really back https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/watch-megadeth-rehearse-for-european-tour/
I found this IG. There's a lot of cringy stuff on Marilyn Manson
-had bruises after liposuction and said to one of his ex gf Gabriella that it was Usich who's hit him
-had a fling with the stripper Jordan who admitted him she was molested as a child then he telling this to other people as a funny joke
-takes his fan girls backstage, hooks them at m&g or on Instagram, has sex with them
-one of them Louise Bell told later on his tour bus he had a lot of girls, had his hands in Louise's undies, while had sex with her grabbed her wrists said to look him in the eyes as she struggled squeezed her wrists
-was dating multiple girls cheating them on each other
-his relationship with Usich are unbelievably cringy. He even was joining her haters while she was bullied on social media and insulted her himself
lol ash costello is barely even famous outside of literally being a groupie
shes one of those ~musicians by association~ who originally got famous for "goff modeling" ie posing nude or in latex and trying to throw herself at goth and metal musicians
i mean it DOES work in her favor because men are weak and they'll do anything to get a piece despite the amount of stds said piece has to spread, but shes less of a musician and more of a suicide girl/burning angel reject than anything and thats how everyone knew her back in the myspace days so its funny shes trying to rebrand herself as a ~legitimate rock musician~
I could see her being a Lacey clone, like with Rodeo = Payton and Mindy or even Heather = Megan
I still think Heather should’ve won in the first season tbh
heather definitely should have won because her old 80s stripper ass was genuinely the only one that wanted brett, kek
but the show was fake so it wasnt to be
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i saw lacey at a cvs on the beach in fl and she's exactly as trashy as i expected. amazing how these people can come from money and still be so goddamned trashy. here's a recent story on her, kek:
>Jorge Magana filed suit against Lacey and her hubby, Jonny, back in 2018, claiming Jonny pulled him outta his car and repeatedly punched and bit him, and alleging Lacey scratched his face and chewed off a portion of his ear.>>507199
god she really did. all of them were total trash but heather and him were a match made in trailer trash heaven. rewatched that show a few years ago and it was a million times grosser now being the same age as many of the young contestants vying for the attention of a washed out diabetic trainwreck.
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I remember being obsessed with Megan hausermann at one point, she was the ultimate reality tv super villain, there was even something perfect about her hot body/ugly face combo that made her more memorably evil then if she was a perfect model girl. I’m so sad they never aired her tv show, I feel like its probably a lost treasure chest of recession era capitalist aesthetics that’s sitting in an archive somewhere rotting away, I wish someone would leak it
you know, despite almost all of the contestants on the Of Love shows doing porn, DJ Lady Tribe/Nikki/the girl in your gif surprisingly was not one of them
that always surprises me
i really want to see a where are they now kinda thing for these girls>>507271
ugh i couldnt stand her or brandi c
i do know brandi c was a porn girl who hung around the likes of jeffree starr and audrey kitching at one point, but she always look like she stunk to me
megan was just a bitch
Last time Megan was seen was on an episode of American Greed where she admitted to being an escort for some sleazy rich dude prior to Rock of Love
It’s so weird seeing her in a dress but she looked good for being 30+
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I didn't know that but looking at her old pics I can totally see her being a suicide chick/myspace queen. NYD's music is a guilty pleasure for me haha.
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Daddy Het made his first public appearance since being out of rehab. Gonna shed a tear about the fact that he has short hair again.https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallicas-james-hetfield-makes-first-public-appearance-after-rehab-at-classic-car-exhibition-video-photos/#comments
>Hetfield took part in a chat and helped auction two of his ESP guitars at the event. He said he was proud to have his work on display at the museum. "There's no other place like this," James said. "The Petersen is the pinnacle. It's the best place to have your vehicles. They weren't doing me much good sitting in my garage. I loved looking at them. The best part is they're all together. I didn't want to auction them off and [have them] go all over the world. It's a collection. It marks my life."
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That's nice, I wish him well. Despite his issues it seems he's always trying to be decent, so I cherish him for that. Went to see them last year and was front row for the first time, it still feels like a fever dream. If it wasn't because the person that went with me and I were in the featured site photos for that location, I wouldn't believe it!>Gonna shed a tear about the fact that he has short hair again
I always liked it better, I think it makes him look a little younger (all things considered). I loved his douchey look from "I disappear".
1992 James is my favorite, he was daddy af
However, Woodstock ‘99 James ain’t too bad either
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I must attend, but fear tickets will be pricey and it’s actually outside of Houston for those not familiar with the HMAhttps://www.blabbermouth.net/news/megadeth-lamb-of-god-announce-2020-north-american-tour-trivium-and-in-flames-to-open/
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I posted this a while ago about how sudden they changed josh for john and it turned out that it was just as sudden for josh as for everybody else as he recently told in an interview.
>Last December, former Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist Josh Klinghoffer got a text from Flea, asking him to come over to his Los Angeles home to “discuss the state of things.” Right away, he had a feeling something was wrong. The band had been deep into writing the follow-up to 2016’s The Getaway, and Klinghoffer, who replaced the group’s longtime guitarist John Frusciante in 2009, thought the meeting would mainly revolve around issues of recording and tour scheduling. Still, “when I got the text, my heart sank a little bit,” he says from his L.A. home. “There was something in the air and the dreariness of that December day that told me… I remember thinking like this could all disappear.”
>When he arrived, Flea, singer Anthony Kiedis, and drummer Chad Smith were waiting in Flea’s backyard, ready to deliver the news that Frusciante would rejoin the group and Klinghoffer’s services were no longer needed. “It was a total shock,” he says. “But I’m not surprised.”
>I spent the whole day texting because they released their statement on Instagram [publicizing Klinghoffer’s firing] an hour after [my dismissal]. Did you know about their statement?
Not at all. You didn’t have any role in crafting that? Noooo. No, no, no. It was less than an hour after it happened and at the time I thought, “Wow, that is crazy.” Flea put it up there; it was very clearly his composition. I was totally surprised. And it does look exactly like a death announcement.
the whole interview: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/josh-klinghoffer-red-hot-chili-peppers-interview-945881/
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I saved this comment on reddit about Manson ages ago and thought it was gross. I met him at a m&g in 2017 and he was drunk, smelled like alcohol.You only get a few minutes with him and who knows, but he wasn’t what I expected. Kinda arrogant, bored with the m&g/his fans, he seemed like he didn’t want to be there. I wouldn’t pay to meet him again.
Sara/Chibi from The Birthday Massacre has seemed to be in a really bad place for over a year now, judging by some of her instagram posts and the fact that she seems to really be…reclusive? She doesnt hang out much with her bandmates despite how close they all are. She has also had some illness that caused her to need surgery recently. Anyway she posted this the other night which pretty much confirms. I really hope she can get help because it doesnt sound good. Especially her saying that the breakdown caused her to be..clear minded? Sounds to me like mania of some sort? Without help, this kind of thing is bound to keep happening and have a really bad outcome I would think. Im pulling for her because shes such a sweet and kind person.
"Hey party people. I'm gonna try to be really concise and honest here. I definitely owe a few people an explanation, and I think maybe we all need to talk about what's not so good inside us sometimes, so maybe this will be helpful or relatable or who knows what.
A few nights ago I went really dark. Kinda darker and lower than I really thought was possible for me. I mentioned that a few days before I saw a car accident, and though thankfully nobody got hurt too bad, I really think that the sound of that impact and the violence of that entire thing broke something inside me that I didn't even know was welling up. After that happened, I felt something horrible happening inside me.
Y'all know I tend to joke around a lot and keep things funny, and that really is who I am - but then those few days afterwards, even that felt like an act. It was honestly horrifying. Some of you encountered me in those days after and knew I was not feeling normal. And reached out. And I felt that and loved it, and you. But it couldn't help. It's almost like I needed to break, or something. And I really did.
I broke down a few nights ago and let it sweep over me in a really intense way. All the shit I bury (and maybe we all do) came out of me - my fear, my guilt, my fury, my loneliness, came over me, and it's almost like I went on autopilot. I lost everything that was good for a little while. That isn't like me. I love fiercely, I love my life and my people, my family, my friends, and all of that was gone. I was a black hole. It was insane. I have never gone so far down. It ended up being a little scary, I went to a horrible place that was very destructive. I was actually afraid.
As a result of that horrible, dark night, and spending time being horrified by it, getting back into my daily life and seeing the faces of my regular loving community of friends, I actually feel more clear and light than I have in a very long time. Maybe this is a ruse. Maybe it's adrenaline. Anyone who knows me knows that I am constantly self-examining. I think that's a good thing right now.
Bottom line… people could say I have a great band, I'm a good singer, I'm funny, I help out, I care, I look good in whatever photo, as if that matters. I'm lucky in a lot of ways and I am grateful. But really none of it matters when you feel that awful snap inside of you, that aching sadness when you're trying to sleep, that wave of horrible guilt over things you can't fix, and a vision of the future that seems so bleak you can barely breathe.
Sorry for the novel. Hold yourself close.
Shout out to my Lulu, who doesn't need a bath because I cried all over her and she bore it like a champ. A farting, snoring champ. Thanks for reading."
I’ve been a fan of them since MySpace and had their very first album in ‘02. I’ve seen them twice live but I didn’t follow them too closely online over the years.
I tend to check out their albums when I remember and I’m glad they’re still going. I think only a few original members are around now.
What you posted sounds really sad to me and I hope she’s getting some therapy. With their albums and touring I’m not sure she’s gotten a break in a while.
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Why did they split up?
What is Chibi's instagram? I feel like I used to follow it but kind of lost it…
Hope she gets better, her post sounds extremely worrying.
On a side note, did anyone here read Chibi's novel? How do you feel about it?
I actually got it from her semi public facebook page, which is under Sara Taylor. I havent added her but we have mutual friends and I dont know her personally so I dont know if she just wants random people adding her on there.
I read her novel and thought it was ok, but didnt they make a movie from it? I never saw it if so.>>514833
I've heard he is a major asshole in general tbh.
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reminds me when I saw roger waters on the "us&them" tour and how he preached against capitalism while I was sitting there with my ticket that costed 135€ and 7 € beer lmao. But as a huge flog fag I was ok to pay it.
Reminds me of when I saw Refused and they did a huge speech about communism and how capitalism is killing the world, but after getting a lukewarm reception from the crowd about it, they later made a joke about them just being old dudes who talk too much with merch to sell. It was nice to see an older band have a sense of humour instead of storming off.
Lots of people in the crowd were actually heckling them for their communism stuff which was weird because all of their music is about it, it's not like it was an unexpected surprise.
OT but Google thinks your gif is Selena Gomez kek
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And speaking of old milk…
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Does anybody has fresh tea on Marilyn Manson?
It looks like there used to be A LOT on him a year ago. Manson posted his new painting on Friday and it is EXACTLY the same painting which one of his haters had as their profile pic TWO YEARS AGO. This 666fearless guy spilt a lot back then! I fg regret I didn't screen shot every single comment they wrote, but they legit sounded like a psycho fan. They are talking about his gf Lindsay Usich in the pic.
Is there anybody who has more?
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I know that Jessica Miller is the trophy wife of lars and here for the good $$$ but damn I can't unsee the non-exciting attraction to each other. I can imagine that lars is madly in love with her but she seems always so awkward around him. Their body language around each other is always so odd. You could think that they are best friends and not a married couple, especially when you compare them to the other 'tallica couples idk. >>515296
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and what I found also very strange is that the oldest son of lars, myles, kind of likes to hang out with jessica as well and idk they kind of a look less awkward together imo but maybe I look to much into it lol
being a rock musician really has so much appeal to incels and losers and ugly bois/men because they can pull literally anyone, even when they are old af, that they were merely just obsessing/jerking off over in high school but never had a chance with
its kinda sad if you think about it
such a vapid existence
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It's highly unlikely that 666fearless was just another fangirl, manson has a post with that account tagged. He was fully aware of them imo. Now I wanna grab some popcorn and see if anybody has screenshots, too.
probably another "personality" of his or something
i could see him trying that as a way to look even ~edgier~
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Speaking of Dave and Lars …
>Dave Mustaine says that he doesn't want to "perpetuate false information" by giving Lars Ulrich songwriting credit on the previously announced expanded version of METALLICA's 1982 demo tape, "No Life 'Til Leather".
>Mustaine discussed the proposed expanded edition of "No Life 'Til Leather" during a June 2018 interview with U.K.'s Kerrang! magazine which has only now been made available online. Saying that the last time he spoke to Hetfield was when the METALLICA guitarist/vocalist called him to talk about the "No Life 'Til Leather" re-release, Mustaine recalled: "He was trying to get me to give publishing over to Lars, despite James and I being the sole songwriters. Lars wanted a percentage and I just said no. I love James, he's a terrific guitar player, but yeah, I can't do that. The songs are already out there. I'm not going to release something just to have a product to sell — especially if they are perpetuating false information. Lars did not write the songs. It was just me and James. Period."
>Ulrich told Metal Forces in 2016 that "some unexpected difficulties on the legal side… prevented the 'No Life 'Til Leather' box set and our vision for how we were going to kick this whole reissue series off. We spent some time doing that dance, but then James and I decided that it wasn't worth it getting bogged down in all the unpleasantries, because this was supposed to be a celebration and not end up being a tug of war, so we thought, 'You know what? Fuck it. We'll just move on to 'Kill 'Em All'," he said.https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dave-mustaine-doesnt-want-to-perpetuate-false-information-by-giving-lars-ulrich-songwriting-credit-on-metallicas-early-demo
I remember the 666fearless account well, I wish I took screenshots. Her claim was Manson blamed Lindsay and his assistant, Judd, for rude and disturbing messages written from Manson’s account. I don’t think anyone believed his lie, it was pretty obvious it was an excuse. 666fearless also posted a screenshot of Manson under a fake account threatening her, and Manson under his main account telling 666fearless he gave the sock puppet her email address.
The whole thing was sketchy af and Manson was probably behind it all.
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She’s such a gold digger.
Before Lars, she’s dated Daron Malakian of System of a Down for years. Before him, Brandon Boyd of Incubus.
That’s what Lars gets for killing Napster and trying to take away Dave’s songwriting credits.
Though I’m sure he knows and just doesn’t gaf as long as she puts out
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Hmmm… What do I start with? With the fact that she has accused every single man she fell out with of abuse or sexual assault? Or with her double standards concerning the Marilyn Manson situation? She publicaly said that Manson gave drugs and had sex with underage girls, abused young fangirls and had hit every single woman he'd been with (including Lindsay, his current gf), posted his emails and texts to her and SUDDENLY changed her mind and went to his bd party to congratulate him, and she now claims she has no dirt on him (just because he fired Twiggy (who allegedly raped Jessicka) ?). She also gaslights ERW, an obvious Manson's victim
Let's not forget how she continuously lies about everything, het Twitter been hacked, words she 'never said', etc.
You can read more by the links https://chantalclaret.tumblr.com/post/179799701547/lies-feel-free-to-contact-anyone-mentioned-in#notes https://loverofmenartandpasta.tumblr.com/
Hold my beer while I ruin your career. https://loverofmenartandpasta.tumblr.com/
I’m not going to pretend to know what Jessiicka’s deal is, but there was a witness to her rape, who neither confirms or denies it.
“He forced me on to the floor with his hand around my neck. I said NO. I said NO. I said it so loud enough, that Pete came rushing in from the other room to get him off of me. But I had been raped. I had been raped by somebody I thought I loved. That night I slept in Pete's bed and cried myself to sleep. Neither of us discussed it until years later as we both had our own shame about not reporting it.”https://www.avclub.com/jack-off-jill-singer-jessicka-addams-accuses-marilyn-ma-1819731509
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Is it the same assistant who now harasses Louise Keay Bell? The girl joined metoo saying Manson abused her a couple of years ago, and now she tweets about Manson's ex employee. I don't believe he was fired. My guess he is a space goat on Manson's payroll.
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Hopefully someone grabbed screenshots, but 666fearless posted screenshots on her account from Manson and an email harassing them from someone Manson supposedly gave their contact info to. 666fearless deleted all their posts though.
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I found this comment about Marilyn Manson on the internet. Sounds a lot like what you are describing about him picking up girls on the internet.
It's possible. The semi famous singer Lola Blanc dedicated to Manson a song "don't say you do" basically about him fooling her using her and leaving her.
There were other girls Jordan Arentz among them who talked to the anonymous accounts and leaked them his messages, photos, videos and told their stories how he fooled them used them and then left them.
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Found this on the Lilith thread.. can anyone confirm this or have receipts?
If you really want receipts, you should go to mansonisabusive ig. They have been around for like 7-8 years, they've witnessed a lot and I am super sure that they have the receipts you want (like text messages Claire+Manson and Gabriella+Manson, they also talked to each girl personally) and if there was a collaboration planned between these two, I believe mansonisabuive will tell you about it.
As for what I witnessed and can recall now, there was a moment when Gabriella and Lilith treated each other amicably, like, for example, Lilith called Gabriella (or vice versa) her wifey and so on. I was shocked as previously Lilith insluted Gabriella a couple of times, I remember it clearly.
I never heard of Claire taking heroin bc of Manson at all, but I was never into Claire, not my cow, you know :D These are exaggerated rumors to my mind.
As for hiding behind fake accounts, I don't know about Claire's situtation in particular, but Manson is really known for that. He had been stalking Stoya (or Isani Griffith? can't remember) on MySpace behind a fake account and had been messaging her strange texts before they started dating. Stoya talked about it in an interview, google should help.
I remember Courtlyn.
If you know the people who talked to CC, do you why they are no longer around? Those guys who posted the screenshots sparked some real fire, I am just curious what made them quit.
Just to be fair mother of Jennifer Syme basically accused Manson of giving drugs to her daughter. Manson's gf Lindsay is known for her love of cocaine. So I wouldn't say he doesn't have a history of giving drugs to the girls.
But it's totally possible that Holli got Clare into heroin.
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An extract from Evan Rachel Wood's essay. Actually Manson has a history of giving drugs to the girls.
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It could be cocaine but maybe it’s adderall, I really doubt he would mess with meth.
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>METALLICA has regretfully had to cancel their headline performances at Sonic Temple Art + Music Festival in Columbus, Ohio (May 15 and May 17) and Louder Than Life in Louisville, Kentucky (September 18 and September 20) to allow singer James Hetfield to continue his road to recovery.
>METALLICA reassures its fans that the band will appear at Danny Wimmer Presents festivals Epicenter (May 1 and May 3), Welcome To Rockville (May 8 and May 10) and Aftershock (October 9 and October 11) as scheduled.
James needs a much longer break than that tbh. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-pulls-out-of-sonic-temple-and-louder-than-life-festivals-james-hetfield-issues-statement/
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Manson's song "speed of pain" is speculated to be about meth.https://m.ranker.com/list/songs-about-meth/ranker-music
He was noticed with one of his teeth lost last year. Not necessarily bc of meth.
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Found this on Twitter about Courtlyn, it’s still there.
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One more screen of Courtlyn, sorry.
Thank you! Very interesting.
What could Lindsay sue Manson for? There are rumors she blackmails him but what she could have on him in 2015? Her father has a law firm but that wouldn't help if Manson did nothing, right?
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From the same Samuel.lilith account.
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I can’t not think of this every time they come up on my shuffle
(btw The Hard Times is one of my fav instagram accounts, would highly recommend a follow)
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Actually Lindsay Usich looked ugly af as they were dating in 2012 and she used to look good before they met. Wood appearance changing was significant and didn't flatter her at all. He tends to choose pretty girls it's true but he doesn't seem to value their beauty.
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i have some screenshots, too. fearless mentioned that Manson is being blackmailed by Lindsay. i followed her account until got kicked lol. guess my page looked way too fake to stay in her followers.
she posted several texts from Manson and a crazy fan whom Manson instructed to harass her. btw one of the posts was about Courtlyn :D
manson talked to fearless about his chicks quite often. he also sent fearless Lindsay's breakup letter she gave him in 2015(?), and complained that Lindsay would usually be physically agressive, like hitting-punching, with him lol. i was shocked to learn that Manson edited the letter a bit before reading it in front of the crowd.
the worst thing is that fearless posted she was drugged and beaten up and she made it very obvious Manson was involved. idk why there has been no justice on him so far.
inb4 you ask me, no i have no screenshots, idk why i was so dumb lol
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Was Amie Harwick Manson's ex??
She is def the type he's into but wtf.
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Judd stalks and threatens someone else, not Louise Bell.
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Him and Amie Nicole. One of Manson's fans told me he used to follow her on Instagram years ago but they don't remember when exactly.
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Probably end of 2016 or beginning of 2017. The way he looks on that pic of them together.
Does anybody know if he dated Nomi Rapace? I found two pics of them together.
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A comment from Tumblr about Marilyn Manson. He seems to loose control totally.
Manson seems genuinely sick. I like hearing about lost media so I've known about this particular instance for awhile. It all starts to make sense hearing more shit come out about him.
>Groupie was a short film by Marilyn Manson (in his first film-making effort) that was shot in one night between 1996 and 1998. The short was recorded at an actual house party that Manson was hosting and involved a stooge actress portraying a young groupie being made to do more and more perverse and disturbing things in front of Manson's unknowing guests (who were only told that a woman would be arriving and that he would be filming her).>The film begins with Manson sucking bandmate Jeordie 'Twiggy' White's flaccid penis through a condom at the house party before the groupie shortly after that arrives at the door (brandishing a piece of artwork as a gift); she is then invited inside, where things become progressively more disturbing. She is pressured into drinking Stephen 'Madonna Wayne Gacy' Bier's urine from a wine glass (Bier also being a member of Manson's band), which she eventually does, but only after convincing Manson to also partake. The contents of the remainder of the short have not been made entirely clear, although it has been revealed that the groupie is at one point tied up, a gun is introduced into the situation by Manson, a fight breaks out, and blood is shed. >Manson obliged Ciulla for the most part, only releasing a very small portion of the film, seen at the end of his 1998 live video album Dead to the World. The segment showed a tied up, distressed woman (with her face either obscured or out of frame) screaming and being tormented by Manson, before reciting the phrase "Jesus loves me for the Bible tells me so." at his forceful command. https://lostmediawiki.com/Groupie_(partially_found_Marilyn_Manson_short_film;_1996-1998)
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This is the post of Esme Bianco and a pic she posted. I found pics of her with Manson. On a third pic she wears same pink dress and she's with Manson.
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Ashley Morgan comments. She also posted a pic of them together and with his cat on her Instagram.
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He was joking about locking girls in sound proof little room in a dance studio.
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Esme said in her testimony for Phoenix act that once he cut her while they were having sex then posted pics of her mutilated body. I've found these two pics he posted on his Myspace ca 2009.
Video of Esme's testimony can be found on YouTube.
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That reminds me of a reddit comment I saved from a post about Columbine. Several people who worked venues had stories about Manson.
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Also from his book - he hit, threw a bottle at her, spit on, and choked his mother without remorse.
The interview with Marilyn Manson's ex drummer Jason Sutter. Juiciest moments:
From those two contacts, you got the Manson gig?
I toured with the New York Dolls through November 2010. I was looking for my next gig and got a text from Andy Gerold. It said, “Dude, Manson’s drummer just got fired. Call them.” I call Tracy, the girl who was tour manager. She doesn’t answer but sends me a text right back, “Put your name in the hat yesterday. Management will call.”
What happened then?
I was able to get management to look at my resume and pictures of me to make sure I’m not fat. Seriously somebody said that. Like, “Oh, what’s he look like?” They said, “Oh, he’s not fat. He looks cool.”
Making it to the first step meant not being fat? That’s funny.
That was the criteria for the first step. Meanwhile the drummer had been let go and his drums were still there ‘cause they were in mid-production and sure enough, this guy was a nut job and a ding dong and didn’t learn his parts. He was worried about his girlfriend trying to come to the shows and it turned out he was talking shit on Manson’s band. ‘Cause he became pals with Manson and was partying too much with him and had this false sense of power like showing up late and whatever. It’s none of my business and I could give a shit. I’m just glad the guy was a ding dong.
This is one of the songs you were going to have to play on the road?
He said, “Don’t worry. When Chris Vrenna was creating this track, he knew a drummer wouldn’t be able to play it. We’ll just program in the other double bass part and fly it in live. You don’t have to play this. I wouldn’t want your legs to get tired because I want you to be able to chase chicks after the show. He actually says that to me
Getting that gig must have been amazing.
Manson always joked that I was his session drummer and that I was the only session musician he ever worked with. That was the nicest he ever was to me because after that it was like whatever. I know that’s why he never pulled any shit with me and never threw anything or screamed. He would pull shit but he never did anything directly because he knew I’d walk off the stage and go get another job. It protected me and I didn’t have to worry about that shit luckily.
What were rehearsals like with Manson?
In rehearsal, Manson was throwing my drums around, kicking drums over, pouring flour and sugar all over them and crumbling up Granola bars so when I hit them they’ll fly all over the place. It’s funny but I didn’t care about the drum setup. Most dudes would be like, “Don’t fuck with my drums” but that’s not what you do with him.
Was it a challenge playing Marilyn Manson’s music?
Oh, hell yeah. They were playing to tracks and you’ve got Manson screaming at you. Any mistake that’s made by Manson onstage, you get blamed for it because you’re a sitting duck. The manager had a meeting with me before I joined and said, “I need you to know if Manson screws something up, you’re getting the blame for it in public. You have to be cool with that and you can’t call him out on that.” It gets old but he always screwed shit up and he had to let the audience know it wasn’t him. It was [in nasty, vindictive Manson-like voice] “Youuuuuu!” You with me? I’m a professional, I have a Masters Degree, I’ve played with all these people and now I have this guy screaming at me and trying to make fun of me with the audience ‘cause I’d screwed up a song that actually he screwed up. You’ve really got to put your ego in check and I know a lot of friends of mine wouldn’t have hung.
He really is a strange cat.
This is a charade that goes on even after the show ‘cause you’re in an altered reality. After the show, you have to go up and say, “Sorry, dude. Sorry I screwed that up. He’s like [in sarcastic voice], “Well don’t do it again.” This is reality, bro. This is the shit they don’t teach you in college. It was excruciating on and offstage a lot. He’s a tough character but I love the guy and we had great times. If I saw him now, I’d love it. He’s awesome but it was a horror show. It was a fucking war.
You also have a Marilyn Manson guitar pick, right?
A guy made them for me. I remember there was a moment with Manson where someone had mentioned I was selling picks online. He was like, “Are you selling picks with my name on it?” I was like, “No, dude. I’m not that much of a dork.” He’s just a nut when it comes to anything [with his name on it]. I don’t know but god bless him. He’s one of those dudes where no one can make a profit off him and it’s more egotistically than professionally. At one point someone mentioned in his camp, “Oh, by the way, your drummer is selling picks on eBay.” He’s got this weird camp and they’re always searching every post about him and it’s a big deal. It’s kinda silly but it was about a two-second conversation. I looked at him and said, “You really think I’m trying to make $5 a pick?”
The rest is here https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/drummer_jason_sutter_talks_landing_the_gig_with_marilyn_manson_recalls_strange_1st_requirement.html
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Jordan Arentz aka Saint Sasha in Manson's bathroom lmao
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A proof that it's a bathroom of Manson. This is his house in hills and Usich posted the pic of her in this bathroom as well.
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Manson and Jordan. She leaked dozens of messages he sent to her. They dated in spring 2016.
Maybe if this was the 50s and youth was everything, nowadays especially in goth culture more people strive for the more mature look, being young doesn't automatically make you hot>slim
Again no, even his wife is fairly slim, being slim in general doesn't make you hot, besides most fangirls tend to be overweight. Finding hot skinny teens into Manson who genuinely want to fuck him would be a needle in the haystack. This isn't the 80s
Also no, he cheated on her several times, she's way too good for him in most people's opinion
God I'm so late but I was excited to see them mentioned. Essentially everyone involved did a FUCK ton, a metric fuckton, of cocaine, constantly. Carlos was reportedly a complete asshole despite being incredibly talented. I have always
had a hint of a similar feeling to you about Paul so I had to chime in. I know all of their lyrics by heart and some of them are so questionable. From what I know, though, Kessler is a total teddy bear. I love his little dances, plus he's aged the best. Paul was insanely attractive IMO like, in the video for slow hands etc, and aged like milk. I was interested to see Kirsten Stewart in their video for If You Really Love Nothing… I will say their recent music is still incredible despite being different, El Pintor was beautiful as is Marauder. If you anons are still around I would love to continue this discussion please talk to me about Interpol lmaooo>>514815
Anyone else get the impression they just burnt out? He helped her sober up, though he still does drugs himself now, and obviously tours a lot, plus I've never been able to see how in love with himself he is. Especially recently >>518520
Dumb question of me about all the Manson shit, but can anyone link some sources on him controlling these women's appearances? They all end up looking like a Diet Dita every time, like he's still chasing that aesthetic from the golden age of grotesque.>>501400
Lastly, this photo made me physically twitch. It drowned me in such a strong fucking nostalgia of a very particular adoration of this exact looking ~emo~ boys, MCRs music, and wanting an effeminate emo bf like this or the guy from tokio hotel lmao, simpler times for sure
Manson himself admitted that he has "internet troops" in a message to Jessicka Addams. Jessicka posted screens of his messages in her private group on Facebook.
Manson is aware of mansonisabusive and he's not happy. He blocked her personal account on Instagram.
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Anyone remember Titti Manson? She was a ‘super fan’ and was even mentioned in an article (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/marilyn-manson-the-vampire-of-the-hollywood-hills-241042/
) for hanging out with Manson. Found this on IG, but I vaguely recall there was more drama then this.. something about Lindsay harassing her? What happened to her?
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Nice! I dont have many, only a letter from Lindsay to Manson and some texts from Manson to fearless. I unfollowed when things got too dirty. Manson also texted fearless like Lindsay would be going to police as though she had done some shit or smth. According to Manson Lindsay leaked a lot of pics of them together to fake their relationships, she wanted ppl to think they are together when they were apart. Manson also said Lindsay's father hates him and Lindsay's mother tried blackmailing him or smth. Sorry I really have my memory like a sieve. >>519157
Lindsay used Titti to fake her attitude towards Manson fans, like she tried to be "nice" she would bribe them with backstage tickets and some "insights" about MM. Then smth happened and they fell apart. I heard Titti killed herself, didn't she?
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The letter he read at the notorious gig.
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This is hilarious. Mansonisabusive is taunting Usich in the comments
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Gabriella's talking about Manson. Pay attention at his pickup tricks.
I do suspect it’s one of his fakes, but I have nothing to back up. A girl I spoke to who chatted with 666fearless often thinks it’s Manson behind the account covering his ass with a woman he’s involved with online by blaming Lindsay/Judd for his behavior.
All hearsay tho and no receipts.
I doubt that. 666fearless's posts put Manson in a very negative light in my eyes. Continuously lying to everybody, not being able to control basic things in his lie, framing Mickey Rourke for raping Evan Rahcel Wood, etc. If fearless was his fake, it would be the dumbest strategy ever. I have my hopes up that someone grabbed screenshots.
What is more, you can google 666fearless and find a twitter account of the same name, there used to be an "attorney" in the twitter bio and instagram one. It must be the same girl, apparently her name is Michelle.
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Bill Idol also responded to her.
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Jessicka Addams being a cow once again and not realizing she’s calling her friend a liar… disingenuous lol
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Recent story from Mansonisabusive - Manson talking shit about John 5.
You can run it through google translate, it’s pretty rough, but here’s the highlights:
- Manson choose 6 young girls to an after party.
-He drank straight vodka and offered them drinks, as well.
-The girl asked to use the bathroom on his bus and he make a joke (?) and wouldn’t let her.
-“Manson had a super trained eye, all the girls turned out to be super flexible bodies” and they measured their muscles and had an arm wrestling contest. Apparently, Manson won the contest.
-“ In the morning he said that he was tired and that he was going to rest, his assistant helped him to get there and sent the most flexible girl from Hungary to him, and we, with the most cowardly girl, exhaled with relief)”
-“ In short, Manson is kind, good uncle with a pedophile taste (everyone he picked looked at 15 years old, except for the Dubai girl)“
-“ We asked how the leg heals. Doesn’t it hurt him (instead of answering this question he swallowed half a glass of vodka)“
The girls were asked to give their cameras and cellphones to Manson's security guard. Wow.
That girl says in the comments no one was asked to show their IDs.
Of course, she was happy. She's a big fan. But that's what she posted.
I didn't make a comment above btw. Just saying that actually the translation is technically precise.
I would add that his assistant (btw, the girl calls his assistants nannies, and no, these words are not synonymous in Russian) first took a photo of the girls, and shortly after one of them was sent home.
The "nanny" had a video call with his female friend and showed the girls to her calling them (in their presence) "marilyn manson grouppies". His assistant told the girl that Manson invites female fans often. They parted with Twiggy not really amicably but there are no details.
And he drinks vodka warm. As a Russian I am disgusted and deeply offended. :D
There's a post of a girl who was on tour bus with Manson in Vienna in 2012. The post is huge so there are highlights:
-a bunch of girls were invited on tourbus
-there were security guards, roadies, Manson and his gf Lindsay Usich
- Manson joked "This is a rape type of situation." Girls were offered drinks then Manson joked again “Now that you all drank it, I can tell you that there was Rohypnol in it.”
- "He got this idea that some of us girls should go to the other bus with Lindsay and bring the guys there. Then he made the idea more specific by saying he wants to do a “titty parade”. His idea was that a few of us girls and Lindsay will come to the other tour bus and show the other band mates our tits."
-the rest 4 hours they spent entertaining each other and joking, nothing crazy that time.http://d0llstoybox.blogspot.com/2012/12/meeting-marilyn-manson.html?m=1
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Manson seems to like his pretty fans a lot :D
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Made those screens years ago on Facebook.
You both skipped the piece where she says he found jokes about nicough
ers so funny that he asked one of the girls to repeat those jokes for his crew.
Pretty sure anon meant a slur for black people obscured by cough.
Manson is such shit. I think of him as an incel with a successful band, now free to take out his rage against women.
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I've got screens of the comments I saved years ago that can give the idea of what Manson&Usich relationship is. There were a lot of rumours but Manson is clearly in the position of power and is 16 years older than Usich. Usich seems to have a temper of a bitch just to be fair. But Manson seems to be way worse bitch so…
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Figured I'd post this here since she's been mentioned ITT before, but Christ, Ash Costello is looking rough. She needs to lay off the PS for a while, she looks about 50. Something about her just seems so trashy imo.
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I saw this at the mall a few days ago; it made me chuckle but then I got sad because it’s true
i don't get why she did this to herself, she looked completely fine?
she aged herself so bad and i think she's afraid to move her face too much nowadays
Amy Lee shills social distancing and playing musichttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3097517073633375&id=740500432668396
(Not sure how to download video from phone)