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>>>/ot/2529856Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-Do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated /m/ thread
-Screencaps are necessary while talking about milk
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WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
op artist: Evgenia Antipova
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
Frequently Asked Questions
>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AIBoth the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?Look through older artist salts or give context.
No. 2554736
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furfag artist who draws bara yiff has been arguing with some tranny apparently but idk who they meant
No. 2554743
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>>2554736samefag he argued but already deleted everything
No. 2554745
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>>2554736>>2554743apparently he called that tiktok tranny a "he/him" and faggots are still crying about it
>Nick is known for his infamous cringe videos, where he purposely tries to get misgendered just to rant about it for clicks. More recently, he’s been filming himself in women’s bathrooms at Disney, “rating” them on camera.sad the drama didnt even last
No. 2554769
>>2554743This is an insanely good point. Trannies are always okay with using "nigga" but the second you don't call them xer it's physical violence.
>>2554745Absolute shame that this shit didn't last. The fire fizzled out despite having ample fodder.
No. 2555111
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>see a video about what female rape survivors were wearing when they were assaulted
>this moid’s reaction is to talk about how moids harassed him for his male feminist comic
Holy retardation
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>>2555157>might be a tifI think it’s clear just from the comic that he’s a moid
>>2555160I initially read it the way he intended it, then upon watching the video I realized he’s retarded for bringing up his own drama, centering his own experience being harassed for making a corny comic about him becoming a misandrist ally, on a video about women who were raped as babies and children. He could’ve commented about the video itself, but he didn’t. He shared his stupid comic and how he was boolied for being a feminist ally on top of that. That’s attention whoring 101. And nothing you say for this moid will stop me from seeing him as yet another self-centered moid who finds ways to talk about himself when “advocating” for women
No. 2555378
>>2555160He quite literally made it about himself. Why would you talk about getting mean comments for any other reason besides getting attention? He could have retweeted the video, talked about the video and in a
seperate tweet talked about his fellow tards being tards.
No. 2555390
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Nonnas, what resolution/size/color profile do you work in when making art for print? And what do you do to it to make the colors ALSO look ok online? I’ve always made art digitally but have never printed my work before so I’m new to this. There are so many options, it’s overwhelming.
No. 2555494
>>2555390sRGB and 300dp, usually art programs auto-size your canvas after you select the resolution and their preset printing sizes.
>And what do you do to it to make the colors ALSO look ok onlineSimply have two copies, the sRBG for online and the CMYK for printing. I usually just draw normally and post online, then when it's time to print some of the drawings I change the color space to CMYK and ajust the colors so they're as close to the sRGB as posible. I tent to make various versions and print them out on a single sheet to pick which one looks the best.
No. 2555636
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27k likes calling elioli art delusional ooof
No. 2555755
>>2555636i have to say im surprised by how fast and how many even some of their own fans called out their bullshit instead of the usual yesman shit you see with these uber popular artists. it really is a shame they really shouldve dealt with this privately but seeing how attentionwhorey both of the twins are being after the callout id say the early intuition about this being a prstunt was right(and only getting 100 likes on a 100k account…
bots might be real)
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I wonder if this artist is referring to the comments anons made last thread on
>>2549779It lines up perfectly kek, the tweet was posted last night, a few days after the artist was posted last thread. Unless people are complaining about this guy on twitter too?
No. 2556077
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>>2555636The Elioli meltdown is hilarious, they deleted the callout post and then made an entire thread saying that they "are not bothered and will not change their stance" and "don't believe this will change their audience" but all tweets have locked comments and they've resorted to blocking and calling people "bots" kek. The best part is that there are now many posts showcasing how a lot of their Webcomic takes heavy inspiration from many Ghibli movie frames, scenes and themes and asking why is it okay for their Webcomic to knock off those scenes but when an indie creator does it it's plagiarism.
This is amazing, but also disappointing. I thought Elioli were better than that.
No. 2556304
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I hate to ask, but what are some useful videos to help understand color and how to use them? I'm quite overwhelmed and I'm lost on where to start improving. Right now, I struggle picking colors and my work ends up looking washed out and flat. I'd appreciate any recommendations!
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>>2556077I'm still somewhat on the fence on the Elioli thing. The response from the creator of Cosmo Princess was somewhat weird. "Oh I never saw your art before, except this one time in which I did use something as inspo for one thing but I had no clue it was yours, because I found it on pinterest."
>>2554366 also suggests they ran in similar circles, and he followed her for years.
I think the main proof it's not plagiarized is the fact that Cosmo Princess seems to have a clear plot based on the trailer (spaceboy sees big space princess) and I'm 5 issues into the webcomic and haven't seen any hint of plot yet.
Picrel just utterly confuses me though. I don't see obvious copying here at all, and yet this is claimed to be proof of him "implementing a background." This is also the image the Cosmo Princess artist admitted to seeing and using for inspiration, so why even cop to that? How many "purple pinky tinted scenery mountain" type pics can possibly exist? Millions? More? I don't know about you, but the mountains I live near always turn kind of purpley pinky every sunset. I think that's just how sunsets work.
No. 2556696
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anons what sketchbooks do you use/have used and recommend? or have used and wouldnt use again? and why? im trying to choose but reviews arent helping and the brands seem a bit new so im not sure
No. 2556765
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>>2556702i was thinking about just using printer paper since i mostly use pencils or ballpoint pens, just for sketching and some figure drawings
Also have some alcohol markers but i was thinking of buying the canson brand ones cause i've seen other artists use it
i know nothing about paper tbh No. 2556842
>>2556831Like 90s and 00s anime art, the look of 00s websites or design elements, 00s cartoons, dress up games or "girl" games, scene kid or mall goth look, flash cartoons and website, just any stuff that tends to be kind of trendy right now.
>>2556822It is ridiculous. I saw someone making a joke that in order to not "copy someones artstyle" you would need to somehow forget that you ever saw their artwork in the first place. I think some artists are genuinely just psychos and if it wasn't the style thing they have in issue with they'd find something else to seethe about.
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>>2556765i started using canson sketchbooks (the green "drawing" type specifically) after drawing on printer paper for forever and i love em. ive casually used watercolor, acrylic paint, alcohol markers, reg markers in them and dont have any bleeding problems! The Sketch type is also good but the paper is considerably thinner. only issue ive had with them is the covers tearing at the spiral squares, but thats in my decade old ones and is easy to reinforce/keep from happening if youre aware of it.
No. 2556889
>>2556879I second this.
>>2556765Also I think it's neat that you use classic Godzilla for picrels kek
No. 2556924
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>>2556842This specifically bothers me because 98% of the criticizers weren't even alive for these things. They don't have a right to them. They don't engage with them and copy the same few things. Having been around for all of the 90s and 2000s anime, the bad localizations, DiC sailor moon and Brock eating jelly doughnuts instead of rice balls, it's really exhausting to see your nostalgia be wrung out into a husk for the sake of trends and aesthetics. I could rant about this forever but I'm pissing myself off. Everything is a trend. The thing about the anime specifically is that people were so genuine before and now it's difficult to tell if someone even gives a shit or if they're just plastering their art with sticker scans and old anime because it's trendy or it they even know. I understand but I don't understand.
No. 2556941
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i'm confused, nonas… so confused. it's been a while since i visit these threads because i've been forgetting to backread, i enjoy going through them all. anyways, i've been struggling with growing an audience! yes i'm still a beginner but i've seen people in my skill level get at least 20 likes per piece… my twitter posts don't get to the double digits. i've been the most successful at getting attention in tumblr and i think it's because of the better algorithm, but twitter is still the bigger platform so i obviously want that x clout. i could just grind and git gud in private but i want the interaction! i want people acknowledging things like little details and things my art reminds them of and making discussions off that, i make fanart mostly so i value discussion. idk i like sharing stuff and the idea of seeing the stuff i do get lost in the void is very, very depressing, i don't want to be alone in my art journey. i want to write a webcomic but i've stopped myself from even starting with the script because i want to make sure at least a classroom worth of people are out there checking out my work.
maybe i'm extremely fucking unlucky because i see that even the people posted in cow threads get more engagement by posting shitty poorly written smut and navel-gazing "philosophy". i tag the shit out of my posts and try to add cheeky descriptions, but perhaps i'm missing something?
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>>2556804I agree that it's retarded but I also don't really care, this weird fixation on style and inspiration has been going on for decades now. I am inspired by a huge number of sources and media and I'm not being greatly inspired by any particular singular artist more than others. I consciously avoid trends and treat my media consumption like one would at a video store, browse > find something a bit interesting > watch/read/play > even if it's a bit shit get something out of it. I don't mean to sound snobbish but generally worries about copying (whether you're copying or someone is copying you) come from having a small or shallow media library and I find socmed and things like Pinterest (everyone in a niche are seeing the exact same things) really compounds that issue. I'm not saying I'm the most creative person in world because of this, or even particularly creative in any way, but I cannot stress how good finding your own sources is for you, artistically and generally.
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>>2556773>>2556879>>2556889thanks nonnies!
yeah i love godzilla No. 2556963
>>2556941It sucks but if you want the discussion you often have to start it yourself. You need to get into the groove of just blogging into the void to try and get people to interact with you and eventually just send DMs to people you'd like to talk to to start the conversations and see if they're interested in talking about fandom stuff or artwork. It also helps to just imagine what it would be like to be asked about your artistic process for a piece and then put your response under as the description, even if it's short it can invite discussion. The person who's online persona is a confident Stacy is the one who gets to chat with friends.
I've also had a little bit more luck with Newgrounds. While the site is much smaller people are much more focused on interacting with each other and doing collabs and that can be an avenue for meeting people, but again, you usually have to be outgoing and shoot the first DM.
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does anyone have any guides/suggestions about spotting blacks (figuring out where to put the large areas of black ink) for a western-style comic? i feel like i'm pretty good when it comes to drawing strong contours, but i'm totally lost when i try to go beyond that and fill stuff in.
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I never had an online art presence before, one day I want to start to share my art publicly on social media and gain traction but seeing how big digital artists get retarded callouts and cancellations over nothing, is it really worth it? I also get easily addicted to any positive online attention and I'm scared that popularity will ruin my mental health and self-awareness
No. 2557722
>>2557616would you be more specific? in any case, no, there's no wrong way to do art
unless you draw lolishit. why do you need people on lolcow to tell you that?
No. 2557736
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>>2557616Remember your roots of what got you started…. Everyone talks about fundamentals of art… but nobody talks about the foundations of why you began.
No. 2558634
>>2557722>why do you need people on lolcow to tell you that?Nona there was not a single question mark there. Please stop projecting your insanity. I was referring to things such as worrying about style or something shallow like attracting only a certain audience, where I just wanna know how some artists are able to have a consistent gallery that lacks significant anatomic or compositional issues. I only seem to notice problems later on and want to DFE, yet nobody ever mentions having that issue. I just made a statement.
You don't have to tell me how to feel nona. It's
okay.
>>2557736>but nobody talks about the foundations of why you began.A good point.
No. 2558672
>>2558634>there was not a single question mark thereNo one knows how to read it's amazing
>how some artists are able to have a consistent gallery that lacks significant anatomic or compositional issuesI know you're not asking for advice but I just want to throw out, I think it's best to take a long break after drafting the image, or even wait a long while at the half way point of a drawing so you can look at it with fresh eyes. If you even feel like it and your work is digital and thus easier to manipulate, why not just take all these images in your gallery and rework them slightly (in the case of bad anatomy, I feel like compositional issues are generally harder to fix especially in busier drawings) well after the fact.
No. 2558917
>>2558908Honestly, this is why I don't mind kids of today loving y2k stuff.
I'd only ask if they'd do their research or at least not shove gendie shit everywhere? I remembered playing a game where one third of the cast were some kind of gendie special despite that only ever existing in super niche circles or just didn't exist?
No. 2559118
>>2559030nta I think sometimes it gets a bit tired when people try to
claim that a piece of work (like a ARG) was based on the era, but after doing little to no browsing of things made during that time, it has inconsistencies (gendie shit, references to real world events that didn't occur yet, characters have opinions that counter the political climate at the time) and it
does break the immersion. But this is only for projects that are narrative in nature. Think Welcome Home or whatever. If they just think the artstyle is cool and want to copy it, I doubt anyone cares.
No. 2559458
>>2559420well i think two were actual popular artists, at least one of them had a lot of followers on twitter. the rest were just artfight popular, meaning they got a lot of attacks but weren’t really popular on social media. this one artist i attacked isn’t even all that, their style and art is meh and the only reason why i attacked them was because i just bookmarked any interesting character in my subscription tab (we follow each other). the audacity of this mediocre artist not even revenging me back, oh the horror kek.
anyway i was so naive, i don’t even use the bookmark feature anymore because there’s no point. im sick of pouring my heart and soul into an attack only to not get revenged and watch this same person continue to attack other people. yeah i know that no one is obliged to attack you back in artfight but wow, not getting a single revenge from like the 5-10 attacks i did from the bookmarks that i bothered collecting and planning really opened my eyes
No. 2559651
>>2559578I'd recommend it for any
nonny that just wants to practice or do warmups because I did get some nice thank you messages
No. 2559806
>>2559293This is the way… and I feel that if you state on your profile that you're prioritizing revenge, people may feel more inclined to attack you.
Though I will say that I've been on the other end where I receive more art than I can keep up with and I feel so bad about it (I attack as much as I can… I usually manage something around 20 attacks per year), but I always always always try to write big long comments to everyone so they know they're appreciated. It sucks when you spend time on an attack and the receiver doesn't even respond.
I will admit I do turn my nose up a little at popular artists who hype up their art fight profiles and only ever draw like 2 pictures while they receive a billion kek
>>2559468The best! I utilized the bookmark folder feature this year to slowly collect "baby artists" to attack.
No. 2559807
>>2559801imo, no, maybe you'll even make a habit of consistently practicing beyond your interest for him
> I hate myself for being this way…why? you're not doing anything bad
No. 2560004
Absolutely tired from dealing with tranny artists. Figured I'd give it one more shot (retard that I am), thinking maybe, just maybe, there's a diamond in the rough, someone on the edge of peaking. Instead, found myself in an absolute cesspit where I was the only cishet bitch in there. None of them can fucking draw (big surprise) despite being a mix of TIMs and TIFs. I'm not even that good and I was the best one in the server. Bleak. Fucking bleak. Fujoshit server too, so I was HOPING someone sane was in it, but that fujo to gendie pipeline is so dangerously real that I am considering those that didn't fall down that path to be in the minority. A dying breed. Day 1 just drenched in gendie bullshit, cis insults, het allergies.
Like, damn, I get it, they hate cis. But living rent free in a fucking artist's brain like that is unhealthy, sad, and pathetic. I can't wait until these brainless shitwads move on to the next hyperfixation and I finally find my people.
No. 2560398
>>2560270> edgy edits people do with Grok on twitter where they add like shit to your drawing.Block grok now if you haven’t already so the bot won’t be able to reply and generate. Everyone should block grok honestly, even non artists.
>>2557262Also nonas, don’t worry about callouts or ai training. Chances are, you’ll never be as big and famous enough for that to happen, sorry if this is a backhanded statement but even famous artists don’t really have ai trained on their work, it’s just the people with unique and recognizable styles I guess. And if you’ve been following the threads recently, there’s been discussion on how even “big” callouts ultimately do nothing since people are quick to forget and move on. For example, that pedo moid guy discussed in last thread where nonas were trying to figure out his gender and it turns out he already had a google doc on him, but he’s been posting on two new accounts just fine now.
And look at the juby and genice drama, after that disastrous callout doc juby released, the two have already quieted down and have been posting art normally now. Some people might think of them differently, but ultimately no one is spawn camping their replies calling them a weirdo or anything like that. And the two have been extremely famous in the digital art community for years.
Even famous artists in the industry like Rebecca sugar and omocat have had so much dirt on them from the past years but they’re still posting normally, sure there are some discussions about their negative past deeds that come up but it doesn’t really cancel them, I’ve seen tweets about that new steven universe show spinoff and nothing about Rebecca’s “omg but do u remember when she drew ed edd n eddy porn????” on my timeline, most people already know and there’s nothing left to discuss
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>>2560403Twitter became such a terrible social media for artists over the years and it's getting worse. Can't have shit in art community