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This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters> Debates over death of the author> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creatorsRelated threads:
Fujo vs. anti-fujo discourse:
>>1978406Fujocoomer cringe:
>>1959358 previous:
>>2031808 No. 2070163
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Everytime I see this shit I have to post it.
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>>2070165>>2070167To be quirky I guess
No. 2070181
>>2070177To tumblr bad writing is just any trope they dislike rather than characters actually acting out of character or contraditicting the narrative of the story.
Also Komaeda is objectively the best written character in DR.
No. 2070190
>>2070187>but I don't think he's a bad character eitherNo I agree, I think both are well written characters which is why them being '
victims of bad writing' is so eyeroll worthy when they clearly had a lot of effort put into their writing.
>It's hard for me to truly think of a badly written character in all of danganronpaNekomaru and Akane are pretty terrible, and not even because I dislike them (though I do) but because they're so pointless.
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I sometimes forget how much of this kinda thing danganronpa has actually, though I think most people moved onto gacha like every other fandom.
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>>2070212The characters are actually gay to be fair.
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>>2070229I think Komaeda's pretty cute.
No. 2070239
>>2070209I don't know much about Danganronpa but are the tags basically admitting that Chihiro isn't trans but the op thinks that's
problematic so she/he is forcing his/her trans headcannon as the morally correct interpretation?
And a more pressing question: does the tumblr Danganronpa fandom even
like Danganronpa? From this one being so uppity about le "trasmisogynistic writing" to that previous scribble comic's punchline being that 8(!!) characters are badly written because their writing is ableist/sexist/whatever… it makes me wonder how these people can even keep engaging with it. Compare this to the occasional "Attack on Titan is imperialist xenophobic propaganda with anti-Korean racist subtext" crowd who (from my experience) just demand that people don't read/watch AoT.
No. 2070258
>>2070239>does the tumblr Danganronpa fandom even like Danganronpa?I think they like the 'idea' of the characters but don't usually care about the killing game or murder mystery aspect of the game.
They kinda just treat the characters like OCs half the time anyway.
No. 2070274
>>2070258it just became 'cool' to hate on danganronpa in the same way it became 'cool' to hate on hetalia, series with large fujo followings usually get more shit than your typical shounen shit even if their fandoms are just as obnoxious
coughJojo
coughThis moid's vid is a pretty good example of stupid criticisms.
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I'm tired of waiting for the artist of this game to get called out when so many other artists get bombarded for less. The guy (waterkuma) is a huuuge pedo w/ his Pixiv followings (photorealistic 3DCG kids) and prior loli porn, but I've seen zero backlash against him. Though I'd guess it's because fans don't know him and assume he's uncredited/unknown like with other Mihoyo artists.
Meanwhile Twitter just complained about Omori AGAIN because the manga's author is, gasp, a shotacon. This is Mihoyo's next big game and it's coming out like, next week so maybe then.
No. 2070598
>>2070504No the fanbase was already awful and hypocritical in the same way back then. On tumblr everyone was talking about the Something Awful translation and I somehow managed tp avoid spoilers so I kept seeing things out of context. As soon as the official translation of the first game got announced for the PSVita I preordered it and several of my mutuals were sending me spoilers to warn me of how bad and
problematic the game actually is, and the usual tranny shit about Chihiro (and what happened to Chihiro and why was supposed to be spoilers to begin with).
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>>2070554That they like to police women more than men is completely true but I just don't see this game having the necessary appeal to foster that kind of audience in the first place. There are no good looking male characters (besides maybe the wolf if you're into that), this shit is going to be unheard of the way Honkai was before Genshin and then Star Rail. Like, I never see anyone look into Arknights illustrators or even talk about that game and it has a similar thing going on with their male/female designs.
No. 2070636
>>2070554I still remember vizie being dragged across the coals–for being a fujo? Or if you were a chirstcuck, glorifying demons and having the gull of safe edgy humor that didn't matter in the grand scheme. This energy was never utilized when TADC's creator had a alt with all their fetishes in full display. Or a self proclaimed pedophile lending their voice talents in an indie title while sane lesbian knocking on the trans agenda had their game vilified as satan incarnate and got taken down as result. If you're a woman, everything you say and do will be taken out of context to ruin your life because people never outgrew their hatred of women.
>>2070611Arknights is a bad example but it's not exactly something every normie knows. I only knew of it in conversations online but otherwise the wider internet doesn't speak or even utter it despite gachas' continued raid into the mainstream. Maybe with enfield arknights could break out of that niche but your right that there isn't much to go off of in terms of male character designs. ZZZ seems like hoyo's answer to Tears of themis, a game made for husbando lovers.
the guy characters were made specifically not to offend male players either by dehumanizing them or making more masculine in a dudebro way.
I hate how proponents against omnipandering whinge about women ruining everything when that same pandering has cucked any potential femgaze we could ever get in our lifetimes. I wish there were more female-aimed media that isn't braindead rhythm games or cozy plant simulators where every moid is repugnantly ugly.
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>>2070612Star Rail is popular because it has lots of cute shippable male characters, I mean all the previous Honkai games that only had female ones you could play. Legitimately no one besides gacha coomers seems to have heard of those until Genshin released and blew up massively with general audiences which introduced others to their previous games. All those are extremely popular as you say, but I think it's in the way where lots of people pay for and play them, but don't get into those twitter communities that like to start drama over nothing and fight about ships.
Maybe they do and I just don't see it, but the Genshit always ends up on my timeline despite me not following anyone who's into it. Like, just a few months ago I remember this artist got called out because the way she draws Cyno is stereotyping people with dark skin by making him so masculine while the Tighnari one is harmfully feminizing him and altogether it's fetishizing gay people so she should delete her account and kill herself. I really doubt you could find a similar thing happening between fans for games like Honkai 3rd, Arknights or Blue Archive or whatever
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>>2070766bronya x seele was/is actually canon in honkai 3 kek
No. 2070782
>>2070777samefag in general observing these freaks in fandoms really boosts my self esteem and will to create fan content and not feel ashamed of myself for it even if it isn't perfect. shit like this
>>2070760 looks like a 10 year old drew it and still gets 300 likes
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>>2070777Ironically the characters they do champion, like picrel, tend to be a lot more offensive than characters like Chihiro.
No. 2070803
>>2070766If they have insane drama it's never discussed here or anywhere else though. All I ever see is whiny tweets about how yaoi is too popular and yuri is much better, never anything specific about how
problematic it is to make Arlecchino look muscular or some shit
No. 2070850
>>2070835In those circles those two have been widely accepted as trans unfortunately, even their wiki pages refer to them as women and people debate about their genders all the time. What I mean to say is that the characters who they do use to "represent" themselves are usually if not always
problematic compared to the characters they condemn (Chihiro and traps in general). Bottom left is a TIM serial killer from an eroge, and top left died from a heart attack after spotting one ingrown hair on his face which honestly sounds like the same "offensive" okama shit they denounce in my opinion, but if you want you can count him out since two out of those four are more than enough to highlight the cognitive dissonance of trannies/TRAs.
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>>2070857the guy from bleach is even funnier, since he is a perverted sadist who pretends to be female so he can get close to women and mind rape them into killing themselves so he can use their corpses as weapons.
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>>2070956Heart mouths can be cute, these idiots just ruin every artstyle, they are like plague but more stinky
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>>2070760gnc is when a man isnt bald. This person cant be over 14 i remember back in the 00s every single man had this emo hair(we need to retvrn)
No. 2071033
What a disappointment when you see nice fanart
>>2070760 and then the underwhelming source material
>>2071008 No. 2071074
>>2071063There's been like, five famous cases.
Didn't the Toriko guy call the cops on himself?
No. 2072119
>>2072070>What do you take from your fandom that makes it worth your time?Might seem like a nonanswer, but I guess the content?
When people are genuinely excited about what happens
in the series. Most of the time it's people reacting to what's official, discussing theories about what happens or reading into the worldbuilding, branching off from that rather than just making everything they like about a series up.
A fandom is rotting to me when it feels like most people into it are going "I am a fan of this series, can't you tell from how much I'm shitting on it and pretending the characters are written the way I want them to be?"
So basically, nowadays I just mute anything in English.
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>>2072114i wonder how
triggered western people would be if Nana was published right now, it's tim burton tier of thinness in here ( or maybe japanese mangaka gets away with it because they aren't white or some shit ? )
No. 2072289
>>2072123Couldn't get into it
Zero handsome men
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>>2072289watch jjk for sukunas beauty
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>>2072289The only cute one (picrel) unfortunately turned out to be a rapist scrote or something like that I don’t remember exactly. Moreover the art style only looks good in its manga form imo it doesn’t translate well into anime at all.
No. 2072492
>>2072070More or less what
>>2072119 said.
I really enjoy fanart and talking about the actual story
No. 2072669
>>2072070Yeah, it happened slowly over the past few years. I can’t stand the preaching or the ugly Fa art. I can handle ugly beginner art but ugly politicized fanart pisses me off.
I still watch the older stuff I life, and I lurk the oldest forums I can. I miss the vibes but it has no purpose for me anymore
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This is so fucking funny
No. 2072970
>>2072967>>2072963Kekkk
>>2072707I need the full pic asap
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This is straight-up slander. I know Emma and she is Asian, she's not fond of unnecessary wokeness but she's absolutely liberal, this is a story where the racist is presented as a villain for abusing a young black girl
No. 2073189
>>2073054>Villain does villain shit>This is extremely poor taste!Oh my fucking GOD. Familial trauma really
is going to be the only acceptable conflict right now, isn't it?
No. 2073262
I don't watch precure but fans of it freaking out over one of the characters getting married is really funny (he turns into a bishounen guy btw)
No. 2073438
>>2070798>>2070850>>2070857Troons just love being represented by
problematic shit like that, I think it's funny
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wtf does this mean
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>>2073492Homosexuality is when anime
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>>2073262the precure fandom is hilarious
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>>2073543no, like i said bisexuality is a total joke these days: most of them are just spicy straights. they think those characters are queer bisexuals for the reasons i stated, it’s just picrel mentality in action…it’s a joke yeah but there’s a grain of truth in it to them
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I wish the new fans could understand that BSD is a seinen, is not a shonen anime.
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>>2073621and then there's picrel
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>>2070611i'm looking foward to it because it looks fun, plus i like the urban style. apparently they seem to be shooting in all directions with this game, soon enough there will be some yaoi bishies if they feel like catering to more people lol
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Women getting mad at other women for enjoying eroge is the most bizarre form of female intrasexual competition I’ve seen. Instead of lusting for the approval of a wealthy, well built, attractive men, they’re tearing each other up over fat recessed hairline neckbeards whom the attractive man wipes the ass of. You are not special for having an array of loli body pillows and posters of naked anime women, in fact you’re just like the people you clamor against. And to be completely honest with you, as someone who’s been into vns way before tik tok Pinterest popularity bullshit or whatever I’m glad more women are getting into them (even if it’s usually the worst ones).
No. 2076096
>>2076086I was talking about vns in general, which include bl and completely sfw games. Either way I really don’t care if a woman enjoys for example saya no uta when I know she likes it for different reasons than the moid does, even if they’re consooming the same game.
>>2076093How so?
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>>2074924>one piecespeaking of, why is one piece being hailed as some kind of troon-positive series and that okama island is ackshually super progressive (in some mysterious way they refuse to specify when asked)
i see op fans saying shit like
>imagine being transphobic and into one piece, oda literally hates ulike are they really that stupid or just plain delusional? both?
No. 2076200
>>2072105I mostly do the same, talk with some friends, and check specific artists for fanart, but it's really not the same as it used to be. I used to be able to go to forums and have interesting discussions about the series with strangers without being overly aggressive or full of delusions.
>>2072119Tbh all my fandoms turned into your example, even older fandoms. That's why I feel maybe I am the outlier at this point. I am in both English and non English parts of fandoms. I agree the English fandom has those issues, but the same problems are already poisoning my non English fandom counterpart and it wasn't free of its annoyances. I can't stand either right now.
>>2072669That's exactly how I feel. I can't bring myself to talk about my favorite series in the current fandom spaces. I see no point and the few times I've tried were incredibly disappointing. I'm coming to terms with the fact that the problem might be me.
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>>2074924bridget and astolfo just look like girls with pecs…like in no reality do children have wide hips. do you think those genshin twinks (scara is the main one that comes to mind) resemble children btw
No. 2076220
>>2076172Nigga what. I love subahibi a lot but I fully acknowledge it’s definitely an outlet for scajis coomer degeneracy and I’m not gonna deny that.
>>2076201I’m not talking about lc, I’m talking about places like twitter kek
No. 2076349
>>2070880>>2070798Trannies I know really love this character and it's funny seeing what he actually is while all I've heard is them saying he's a stunning and epic representation of trans women and acting like he's an amazing character
>>2071063yeah, I really hate how whenever I find a cool jp artist they always do loli shit. not even just drawing loli characters, actual sexual lolicon type of content
No. 2076654
>>2076072I just read whatever has a semi interesting sounding plot or has yaoi in it.
Eroge, otome, BL, general galge all work for me.
No. 2076902
>>2076353kek stop it
>>2076633>Why do we need to moralfag? It's not like women are out there diddling little boys and raping scrotes after jilling it to yaoi porn?exactly, yet women into weird fiction get called pornsick. like i feel women who willingly suck cock or do the whole lana del ray cnc coquette shit with their men are far more "porn sick" than a woman who reads shota oni sometimes
No. 2076968
>>2073262Damn, I was obsessed with Yes 5 back then just remembered they were getting new content. Nozomi and Coco (who yeah, transforms into a human) was a popular ship and obviously pushed by the network, why are they acting surprised? Guarantee it’s performative activism.
>>2073504These guys can’t be real lmafo.
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>>2077088Swan song in particular has that issue, the horror of the snow for the first few hours of the game is pretty amazingly done but the random waifu shit and BADASS HREO ruins it, not to mention that they add a random good alternate ending for no reason, same goes for the latter half of subahibi.
Bothers me less with stuff like Higurashi though since all the characters are genuinely complex and likable despite having moe tropes added in.
>some of the coomery ones like saya no uta sound pretty neatEh, it has some okay stuff in it but it pretty much 90% relies on how you feel about Saya herself, who since I'm not that into waifu stuff does nothing for me. Ryouko is pretty good though, it's nice to see a female character who's motivated by revenge and not sexualized.
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>>2076206bridgets best design was when he was in the pachinko game and looked more boyish, i really wished they let him mature into a pretty man who didn't care about performing stereotypical masculinity or femininity. sad he just gets mindbroken by a fat fed into accepting his childhood grooming.
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>>2076654Based. I like you nona.
>>2077088The first few VNs I played were all eroge because back then there were hardly any translated BL and otome. I got severe whiplash every time the writers pulled that sudden coom jumpscare crap. To this day I have not recovered from the famous "mana transfer" 3p shit from the original Fate game.
On a separate note, I'm so tired of moralfags who are in denial that they are a failed moralfag. They play edgy games, fall in love with "
problematic" characters and write longass essays about how HER husbando raping his love interest does not make him a rapist because REASONS (he was just jealous and afraid of abandonment, you don't understand). Other characters who have done similar (or even less
problematic) actions are evil enough to get the electric chair, but not her husbando. Such a moralfag-lite is in denial that her oshi gets a free pass simply because his design and sob story is to her personal taste, and seethes over other fans who either celebrate him being "rapechad" or consider him a tropey rapist character while being honest about simply liking his looks.
No. 2077450
>>2077445Its impossible to enjoy anime/VNs and be a non-hypocritical moralfag. Nobody wants to accept it, but 99% of anime is degenerate and the people that moralfag about it arent the ones enjoying the 1% truly non-
problematic anime(like precure and other anime for toddlers).
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>>2076999>"What do you mean he calls himself with male pronouns because she admires a moid? He's a trans man like me!".Is like ignoring her whole purpose for TRA brownies.
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>>2079089Or make Yamato start to call herself with "atashi".
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>>2079782In their defense (?), most of the actual fans of OP weren't even born when the manga started, so they're not used of Oda's shenanigans.
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>>2079823kinda confused on what you mean here? there's nothing really gorhoc about his design. realistically speaking, if they did go with the bishie angle, he'd just look similar to Ky while still keeping elements of the nun dress. I know you said you haven't played Guilty Gear but could you be reffering to Testament when you were talking about a goth character? picrel I doubt they'd look anything similar giving the contrasting aesthetics. Plus Testament isn't really seen as the "femboy" of the series the same way Bridget has been
No. 2080440
>>2080374>"um ackshyually as a lesbian I looove this objectified female character/fetishized yuri ship and I think there's nothing wrong with it! some women like this kind of stuff too uwu" takesOh, absolutely to hell with that take. It's maddening to see so many Pick-mes and TIMs defending this drivel under the pretense of empowerment without a hint of irony in their words. my thresholds for coomshit is high but it should be acknowledged yuri was always meant for straight people, not to mention yuri hentai with it's male gazey visuals and ooc sex scenes. But since anything that stars women and no men is feminist, even a lesbian porno is deemed a sex positive masterpiece to these ingrates. Maybe that's why TIMs hate yaoi and attractive men so much. It's the only space they can't invade as engaging with why women like BL will unveil their inherent misogyny and reality checks don't really mix with troons.
>>2080379NTA the former was billie bust-up. I was using it as an example where men get away with more shit than women. There's actually a video on the subject by sarah z if you're willing to find it. It doesn't go into too much depth since obviously a third of her audience are troons and genderspecials so tread carefully.
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>>2080376funny you mention momokun.. also its a man but trannfied for ggs troon coomer audience
No. 2080590
>>2080548I enjoy writting at Dreamwidth, but it's a wasteland unless you're into live action media and books so I just spreg about my videogames alone and hope someone sees kek.
80% of discussion nowadays happen at Twitter (bad) Discord (even worse), so the only way is to try finding normal people at Twitter. But honestly I have found most of the chill people over Tumblr, maybe you can give it a second opportunity. It's one of the calmer social media right now, there are tons of genderspecials and such but the callout phase has gone away since the highschooler userbase has grown up.
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>>2080458Testament was isn't really "trans" but due to the very nature of him becoming a Gear, somehow made him sexless, he's considered nonbinary currently. I still call him he, but his design was always meant to be androgynous. I actually like his new design sans the widened hips. takes away the androgyny imo because now he just looks like a flat goth woman. atleast the voice being a mix of masc/fem is still present in Steive. the Japanese dub voiced by a woman, in English he's voiced by a TiM. doesn't bother me all that much since at least he's talking in his regular voice and not forcing a transcent
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>>2080703the official eng arcsys account shared this fanart before bridgets official strive debut, and while this leans a little too masculine imo, i think a design like this would have been much better. from a story standpoint, having bridget grow up and mature into a man who doesn't concern himself with others opinions and live for himself would have been so much nicer. they could have even stuck to the plot of him having to go and save his twin brother, and actually earn his villages respect, but now he is just a weird manchild who talks about wanting to have "cute offs" and says shit like "let me TRANSfix you!" before fighting people. pure shit.
>>2080591testament was always supposed to be androgynous, but i think people are exaggerating how "ambiguous" his design was in the past when he had quarter back shoulders and very visible cock cage. there has been a lot of people claiming that he was always supposed to be nonbinary too, but by playing the old games it is obvious he wasn't, with the amount of times he gets called kliffs son. the word daisuke used when talking about his ~gender~ in his strive reveal was indeed the word for "sexless", but i still think its incredibly lame. we'll never see any of the female gears take on a more masculine or androgynous appearance, and this shit was totally for taking a female gaze character and making it into a basic goth slut for coomers and trannies, what a tragedy…
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>>2080890i couldn't believe it myself when i first heard him say it.
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>>2080904outside of it being a joke or restricted to homosexuals, i mean.
>>2080898this is so corny. reading over his old quotes from the og game and he used to have some entertaining sass. i really wonder why they couldn't have just left him ambiguous if they wanted to pander to trannies
No. 2081066
>>2081057He was a hot goth guy and he loved Dizzy. Now he is just a generic troon goth "gf".
I will put a whole room lego carpet in Daisuke Ishiwatari's bedroom.
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>>2080885I agree the whole point of Testament was to look androgynous, a concept Japan used to obsess with late 90s and early 00s. Malice Mizer was a great example of this, but I'm not deep into japan fashion music or history to go into details. All I know is that they have a long history with ambiguous representation, going back to their Kabuki theatre era. If you look up the Onnagata history it's really telling how Japan sees this gender non conformity and it's still very misogynistic and male centered. When more men star jacking off to women turning into bara man, you'll see it happen to some character.
No. 2081574
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>>2081569THEY RUINED HIM, THEY RUINED MY BEAUTIFUL GOTH BOY…
No. 2082016
>>2081657The most notable drama was the love and deepspace bl ban but otherwise I ain't sure.
in other news, has fandom drama been slowing down? this thread has been a tad slow lately.
No. 2082021
>>2082016>in other news, has fandom drama been slowing down? this thread has been a tad slow lately.I think the biggest spergs purged their systems of the worst autism
fujo discourse or have just stopped posting, so we're left with a slower, actually readable thread.
No. 2082025
>>2082016>love and deepspace bl banWhat? The creators banned creating Love and deepspace BL? Or was the userbase angry at bl? Pls tell me more.
>>2082021Kek, yeah. That anti-fujo vs fujo thread was a great idea, actually mostly cured the constant fujosperging that was a problem for years.
No. 2082086
>>2082037Well, whatever, their game sucks anyways, one of their characters refused to talk to me after i clicked on him too much, what even is that? And if it's one of the most famous otome fandom current drama, then it's not that
toxic at all, kek.
No. 2082133
>>2082093Fuck, i wish we were as vicious as them, it's completely possible. I know korean feminists are also famous for closing popular korean prohibited pornography website that was working for more than a decade. They actually fucking closed it, it's possible. They're inspiring, i love them.
>>2082096She was fired ("voluntarily left", lmao), sadly. I don't think anything happened later? Everything just kinda stopped after that.
No. 2082279
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>>2082093>He recently tweeted that he was going to stop drawing, too.not really
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>>2082279I missed this comment
No. 2082422
>>2078122Wouldnt it be good representation for FtM's that dont want to get their tits chopped off just to leave Yamato as they are?
I mean I don't believe in the whole gendie nonsense but its a shame that the character they project as being nonbinary/transmasc they're not allowed to have breasts.
No. 2082563
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>>2082086Personally the worst type of drama I see is genderspecials trying to rebrand otome to include their gender religion and pronouns lipservice, and shitting on sane games for not having such crap. But these clowns havs been around for quite a while and "inclusivity" discourse has become quite common and is ignored by most normie players, you'll just occasionally see politically correct otome bloggers say something in their reviews about the game needing to be more inclusive, kek. Picrel is your average leddit genderist from 3 years ago and it's still pretty much the same.
No. 2082596
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There are these retard posters at both otome and bl subs. I thought they were baiting but actually they weren't. That cow is kind of milky but i think he's a baiting scrote or legit retarded.
No. 2082600
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Lol
No. 2082603
>>2082596Average gooner husbandofag train of thought, no form of media can ever be enjoyed if they can't explicitly self insert and due to the smug feeling of superiority for preferring Christ-approved straight romance they can't fuck off to play an entire genre filled with het romance and sex scenes but instead demand a completely different form of media to pander to their needs. But if some genderspecial Aiden wants otome to have a cuntboy male option for muh ~inclusivity~ in yume garbo they go psycho ripping her apart immediately for tarnishing their fantasies with faggotry kek
>That cow is kind of milky but i think he's a baiting scrote or legit retarded.Sadly I know people like this, they exist.
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>lived in US
that means he's trans
No. 2082660
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>non binary rep!
>eh anon actually the original Japanese word means androgynous
>translator did such a great job then!
No. 2082731
>>2082640>constantly pissed, with the ability to magically burn off any amount of doughnuts he eats? Yeah, that's testosterone, dudeMale character being affected by testosterone = he must be trans? kek what
Somewhat related, but I'm so tired of posts 'analysing' characters or that are disguised as meta but are really just headcanons that border on delusion glutting up fandom tags/discussion. Picrel is like 'here are the reasons for my tranny headcanon' and then proceeds to list… more headcanons as justification. Retarded.
No. 2082817
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>>2082666All of this sounds annoying as hell. why does anything aimed at women (OSA no less) need to include everything under the sun? Why can't something cater to one audience and be done with it? and lol at the galge answer. Maybe the real reason is scrotes will tell you to fuck off with your IDpol whinging and go in your own lane as you should. Not trying to be "queerphobic" or whatever, but does it bother anyway else that female spaces can let post like these happen but in a male one, the person gets laughed out of the room. It's like everyone can't stand up straight.
I and many others want media aimed at them with themes to resonate with women not whether or not being ace is totes
valid or something.
It should be a miracle that amare's taking off becuase I'm tired of this drivel.
No. 2082863
>>2082817>>2082596Otome are not for trannies.
Yaoi are not for faggots.
They're made for women by women.
For female entertainment and female masturbation.
No. 2082898
>>2082863this is why the west can't handle joseimuke and by extension anything japan makes because cultural differences inadvertently breed divide and self-entitlement. It can't just be a simple otome in the west, characters with atypical pronoun usage and presentations need to be localized as genderspecial to appease a small fraction of the human population. You can't just have yaoi, it has to have fakeboi representation or it's totes
problematic. Every time a western company tries to appeal to women, they always shit the bag and end up decentering women in some shape or form by shoving in wokeslop. I don't mind seeing lesbians and bi women in female-aimed content but having the whole TQA posse for no reason besides the faintest abstraction of inclusivity.
>>2082884As much as I hate scrotes, I wish more women take a page from their gatekeeping handbook and drive these people out. I'm so sick and tired of every space with women needed to tiptoe on eggshells to make a small portion of retards placated. I had to leave several after the pick me-ism became too much to bear on top of all the virtue-signalling.
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>reddit nona turning the tables on them in the least rude way
>they're ganging up attacking her and pulling the victimu cardo
No. 2083018
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>>2083014>who's more retardedhas a point about misogyny though
No. 2083230
>>2082279>>2082292kek so just a big nothingburger.
>>2082712>completly nuked his fanboxyeah but he still has his job according to his tweets, wasn't the whole point of the call-out to get him fired? something like "since women were unfairly fired, men should also be fired." his pixiv is still up, his twitter is still up, his gelbooru page with +500 posts is still up. they only got him to nuke his fanbox which, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure it wasn't his main source of income anyways.
No. 2083592
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What if you're a fujo radfem like me though
No. 2083704
>>2083011 Kabedon
nonny a little silly using "queer" but based otherwise,
>>2083019 lostpoint nona is fully badass and deserves to escape the preddit hellhole. It also gives me hope how the majority of the voters in
>>2082597 went "lol nah I'll just play otome to date men as a woman", common sense still prevails even if most women are scared to openly say no to the gendergoons.
No. 2083755
>>2083592I can't believe yaoi is
terf now, what the hell is yaoicore though KEK
No. 2084011
>>2083891It kind of did start that way in the 70s though.
>nah there are plenty of male bl consumers and authorsBut they're not the majority
No. 2084023
>>2084013here’s a small sampling:
https://blnews.chil-chil.net/newsDetail/18790/. they are tough to find for reasons that may be obvious (homophobia) but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. can’t find the twitter thread right now but a bl author posted a long thread on how many gay guys who do bl write under (female) aliases to avoid harassment
No. 2084056
>>2083592This is funny because while I know some GC fujos personally, most radfems in my experience hate yaoi because "it's porn aimed at women and
problematic". Real feminists don't care about fanfiction.
No. 2084124
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>>2083038Not uncommon, most of the time moids relate with characters like picrel. But at least they don't do it for "trans/gender envy".
No. 2084401
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It's crazy that people still give a shit about Naruto let alone think that Sakura is a great character.
https://www.tumblr.com/sakuratruther No. 2084417
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>>2084401lmao what has SHE been reading?
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>>2084417Sasuke is max level tsundere
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>>2084423Angry yurifags are even funnier to me.
No. 2084493
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https://x.com/JulishyArt/status/1810768129607528864Found this while scrolling through an Ao3 search on Xitter. Someone drew fanart for a fic and is getting dragged because 'orientalism', aka putting the blonde dude in that outfit. The quotes, too, are just filled with 'kys', it's pretty deranged.
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>>2084493did the artist delete the post? i don't see how an anime boy wearing skimpy clothes is racist
No. 2084538
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>>2084493These dumbasses never have the same energy for stuff moids enjoy like picrel
No. 2084554
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>>2084515Looks like she did. Unfortunate for her but unsurprising, they were sperging extra hard. It's honestly fascinating to see as an outsider to the community, I honestly would not have imagined a picture like that being capable of spawning such vitriol.
No. 2084556
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>>2084536My first thought was actual m/m couples that twitter users just call lesbians without changing anything like picrel but it seems like OP has an issue with genderbends. I don't think liking a female version of a male character means you don't like female characters though. It's obvious why people would prefer more developed characters (like Dabi/Hawks who play a big role in the story) over actual extras with no screentime
No. 2084582
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>men are inherently more sexual and disgusting than us pure women
It's true though, and I don't give two fucks about Dunmeshi.
No. 2084606
>>2084582How is that terfy at all? I know it's a meme gendies call everyone bad a
terf or every problem is because of the terfs, but that's just fairly normal observations from any non normie non pickme woman
No. 2084830
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>>2084748I love dunmeshi, I have for years and have been following the author closely since the ending. I don't plan to stop those things but the anime fandom it has attracted are some of the most absofuckinglutely obnoxious virtue signaling ugly washers and turbo aggressive seething political yurifags. It's a shame, but I just complete ignore and avoid the fandom now. Hopefully in time it will heal but it sucks when things were really comfy and relatively sane before.
I have been wearing a related cosplay the last couple years to local cons/renfests but the online fandom has been so radioactively offensive to me that I'm probably gonna mothball it for at least a year. It used to be so lovely to find other fans but I don't want to interact with any of these new people.
No. 2084904
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Not sure if this is the right place to discuss this but I know a few Ranfren readers browse here. Captainhowdie recently updated her Terms of Service page and it seems like she is attempting to forbid NSFW work of Ranfren now. Incredibly retarded move and it seems like the way it's worded is her weak attempt to try to scare her audience of zoomies from making bad Ranfren porn kek. Apparently some Ranfren NSFW artists are already getting shit for this. I'd really like to see her try to attempt to enforce this but she's probably just going to rely on her audience of braindead teens to bully artists.
No. 2084906
>>2084904She's at least 5 years too late but I'm not mad at this, most NSFW Ranfren works are absolutely shit tier cringe with the exception of one VK artist who would probably tell retards to fuck off if they harass them.
Besides I'm pretty sure this is a response to the constant nagging about the Randal daki, picrel
No. 2084911
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>>2084907Wrong image? That drawing is pretty old and actually by one of Howdie's old friends, a TIF that goes by danielcalmdown. Howdie has drawn Daniel's OC with Randal years back. Pic related
The drawing was reblogged by Howdie herself here:
https://captainhowdie.tumblr.com/post/114690731235/danielcalmdown-it-was-really-fun-to-draw-itsI do want to see the cringe daki though if that's what caused her to instate this rule.
No. 2085306
>>2084582My god, young fujos need to stop being such pushovers and tell political yurifags to suck a tit and shut the fuck up with none of this weird ass pathologizing derailment. It's one thing to discuss the treatment of female characters in fandoms but using how rabid you are over a female character vs a male character as a baseline to assess how you treat women in real life is absolute lunacy and really shows how far removed zoomers are from reality to the point they treat fictional characters like real people, and not fictional facsimiles born out of a single person's mind. Like in one of my fandoms you got unironically called a misogynist for hating a character that looks like the most scrotish gooning fantasy design you could imagine.
>>2085295Let's be real, most of these yurifags (who aren't trannies) are male-repulsed straight girls i.e. polilezzies. That said, it doesn't matter which sexuality you are, you can enjoy a well written romance or enjoy a good ship no matter if it's m/f, f/f or m/m unless you're a raging homophobe because at least personally I don't have to self-insert like a loser or compulsively masturbate to the sex I'm attracted to. It's just a fact that a lot of mainstream yuri is born bland and only appeals to a very specific demographic instead of a more wider audience, especially because yurifags lack the charisma, dedication and sense of community people like fujos have built for decades.
No. 2085313
>>2085243Honestly I think most of these yurifags are TIMs, I swear 80% of the time I find a "lesbian" online it turns out to be a man in a skirt.
There are some actual discussion happening, but their train of thought went into a "There's no fanworks related to female characters = Misogyny (which can be true at times, but mostly on how fandom treat male vs female characters, specially when it comes to morally dubious ones)" so "Less f/f works than m/m ones = Misogyny" pipeline. Which makes no sense.
No. 2085320
>>2085313Most of them
are troons, I was wondering why none of these she/her "lesbians" with anime PFPs had no IRL photos like most girls regardless of sexuality post but only cooming over anime lesbians laced with extreme male-coded aggression and entitlement while screeching about "misogyny" (i.e. female fans drawing fanart of bishounens), scrolling their feed soon exposed them as trannies due to mentioning HRT or other telltale signs. They just successfully co-opted the discourse about the lack of interesting female characters and turned it into "you prefer a male character over my coomwaifu so you're a misogynist".
No. 2085374
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>>2084904Just noticed she seems to have added this to the site recently. She probably has already had too many encounters with deranged zoomers at this point. I've seen too many teens poorly cosplaying as Satoru or Randal and cutting themselves. Imagine what she gets in her inbox.
No. 2085446
>>2085416You first need to take into account that gay men are already a tiny minority in the genpop, now you have to narrow it down to gay guys who are nerdy and into animanga, and then you have to narrow it down even further into nerdy gay guys who don't just satisty their lust from IRL sex/IRL porn, and then you narrow it down
even further to gay guys who can stomach the rather "fem-brained" depictions of gay male sex common in yaoi enough to call themselves fan. You're working with a really negligible pool. The whole reason geicomi was created in the first place was because gay men in Japan didn't jive with the depictions of gay relations through the female lens.
No. 2085514
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>>2085394Because that entire part of the fanbase left when the big callout doc dropped in early 2022. It mentions things such as Nyens old design from 2012 where he is fully black with only his features left uninked being blackface, his current one referencing Nevada-tan (I don't know why that's an issue and the doc doesn't say), having Randall say "hey my nigga, what's up" in one old comic, the ratmen obviously being racist asian caricatures, howdie having a link to Elliot Rodger's manifesto on the website, posting about BL and then about a school shooting memorial the next day, howdie being anti-semitic for including a swastika in a drawing of a oujia board and lastly making art of Luther x Randall and reblogging picrel as
>>2084911 said. New english-speaking fans who use twitter that are made aware of this doc apparently leave the fandom quickly so it has no chance to grow but I guess tiktok zoomers have an easier time ignoring it since it's such a fragmented platform.
https://x.com/lucid236/status/1491039514122682371 No. 2085616
>>2085597The fandoms people say have a
TERF problem literally never have a
TERF problem, literal schizo behavior. The only fandom that might have a sizable amount of cryptos is Enshitmble Stars but even then it's not even worth it when 99% of the other fans are gonna chimp out at you over Arashi.
No. 2085661
>>2085616Back when the Limbus Company controversy happened, I was pretty surprised that some of moidy series fanartists I followed retweeted korean feminism and
terf stuff. Deleted any LC stuff they had and never looked back.
No. 2086714
>>2085243It's because yuri and BL fans didn't have to interact that often up until now
Mostly due to there being more variety in shows made for women and shows made for men.
No. 2086723
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What does Madoka have to do with a coomer mahou shoujo exactly? Coomer mahou shoujo series for moids have been a thing since the 70s anyway (cutie honey)
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>>2086738True, they have also been pandering to otakus since the 80s.
No. 2086744
>>2086741And that's why I get annoyed when people shit on Madoka in specific by comparing it to obvious fapbait anime like mahou ako and shows for toddlers like precure.
I really don't give a shit if the anime is made by lolicons or not because almost every show is, I care whether it's a good anime or not.
No. 2086766
>>2086757>i just said that most stuff is meant to be for menAh my bad then.
>Women who grasp at straws trying to paint meduka as a feminist animePersonally I don't think I've seen any visual media that I would actually consider feminist. Some books sure but I don't think I've seen a tv show (animated or otherwise) that I personally consider feminist, I don't particularly care about that anyway though I just think Madoka is a genuinely fantastic anime.
No. 2086908
>>2086884The current focus has shifted towards Russian mobsters, both for het and bl stuff
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>>2086914The only manhwa I've been able to finish were Bastard, I Love Amy, and Roach. Bastard had some really noticable 3d asset use that took me out of the story at times but other than that it's not the worst
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>>2086925samefag, picrel shows the style. I honestly think it's beautiful. Appreciating details also pays off, as many minor details foreshadow a lot of the twists later on.
No. 2086970
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Holy fuck this cope
No. 2086981
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>>2086976Kek it's possible it further highlighted it but this coping has been going on for a few days, particularly with redditors coping about their waifu.
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>>2086981> MENTALLY ILL character has STRANGE and CREEPY preferencesOh this poor oblivious male kekekekekek
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>>2086988>sfw Saya no utaUnless you mean the American comic book adaptation, that isn't a thing.
No. 2086996
>>2086995Kek it's still not SFW at all though
But personally I have no issue with someone being a fan of Saya.
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>>2087011> Tfw a Nazi fetishist unironically gives Twitter weebs a reality checkFuck me this timeline is bleak.
No. 2087427
>>2086723>What does Madoka have to do with a coomer mahou shoujo exactly? When it aired around 10~ years ago it had a large coomer male fanbase that negatively influenced the mahou shoujo fandom on tumblr. It also brought in many edgy fans who wanted all mahou shoujo to be like Madoka and who made edgy and lewd fanart of precure.
So now the fans who were left scarred by it a decade ago (lol) are reminded of that point in time whenever a new edgy/lewd/edgy-lewd mahou shoujo shows up.
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>>2087428NTA but yes, unfortunately it's a sack of shit
No. 2087643
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What is wrong with western localizers? Why the fuck do they insist on shoving those goddamn stale twitter jokes into every single one of their fucking works?
No. 2087884
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>>2086926I feel even as a kid I should have realized how poor the quality of some of the art is. like picrel doesn't seem to be an intentional art style, It's a result of laziness. I have a strong belief that in a few months most Korean artists will start using AI for their artwork as well
No. 2087945
>>2086995Is there such a lack of decent media that people need to resort to liking pieces of censored coomer media? I lose respect for moralfags in the fandom that want to like fucked up shit but don't want to be associated with the bad parts. Just own up to it. You can like something and still admit it's fucked up and criticize it. Doing these mental hoops is Addy's tier of coping. We all like something with its issues, you can consume and enjoy them without being blind to them.
The need to come up with justifications feels like a consequence of the fandom callouts over absolutely nothing. They seemed to have reduced in numbers, but a few years ago there was a google doc callout of a hundred pages on every single nobody on the internet and it was always filled with the most petty minor thing on earth. At what point did we misunderstand the differences between criticizing something and labeling anyone who enjoys it to any extent a sinner? Any discussion in the fandom turns out to pointing fingers and calling names.
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what does this even mean?
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>>2087643I hate that these cherry picked, out of context caps are being passed around and made to look like as if they're just the same as replacing proper main story context with memes.
These caps are from demon negotiation dialogue from Shin Megami Tensei V. Demon negotiation is a mechanic you employ regularly to convince demons to join you or give you items. Through the series, demon negotiation always had silly and stupid dialogue to keep players amused and lighten up the tone of the games (since the main plots tend to be dark). In SMTV they went ham with localizing these dialogues but what they did is not out of place and doesn't take away from the main story (which sucks this time around).
No. 2089485
>>2089470I particularly don't understand whenever the MC kind of forgets she's not even from the world and then just acts like she's from that world, actually caring about the characters and such.
Like yeah, she can care about the characters because that means she's empathetic, but it's weird when the author just forgets that the MC isn't from the world of the story and she stops making plans or remembering the original plot of the story.
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>>2089470Isekai is really shitty, but is entertainment for moids so I really don't care about it.
I recommend .hack//SIGN, magic knight rayearth, the vision of escaflowne or digimon adventure.
No. 2089505
>>2089489when I said straight isekai I was talking about josei and shoujo, not the one for moids.
>>2089485I think they just do for the plot, like a plot filler when they don't know how to make a certain action happen.
No. 2089546
>>2089291I think this is just an edgy way of saying "yuri stories are boring, I wish things would get more extreme."
>>2089489Moid isekai are way different from that. They're more
>"gets the chance to escape from slavery, sticks to being a servant for the mc because he's "nice" and has crazy superpowers that make him rich af>mc is able to cook food for women and this is the sexiest thing they have ever seen in their lives>They're all ridiculously sexually aggressive while the mc is complete herbivore because literally everything has to fall into the mc's lap No. 2089593
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>>2089470This one is quite different and I'm glad it got an anime adaptation.
No. 2089795
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>>2089470Because of so many isekais I have began to forget what actual pure fantasy animes are like
Western based high fantasy is a truly iconic part of anime history but the last decade has turned the settings and characters into a shallow skin that dozens of lazy shows simply wear as a costume with no soul. That's why I think Frieren is such a refreshing call back to the real heart of the genre that used to be taken more sincerely
No. 2089837
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>>2089827A lot of moid isekai are pretty blatant about the female characters clearly just jumping at a good deal kek.
No. 2090025
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>>2089470Tbh the crappy ones are obvious from their summaries, it's pretty easy to avoid them but I understand the sheer number of them being annoying. Still I've managed to find several good straight isekai that don't fall into this formula
Picrel beware the villainess, I love my homegirl Melissa so much
No. 2090101
>>2089871desperation to have a unique elgeebeetea label definitely plays a part, but ime the women who do this generally have hangups around the idea of having sex or dating in real life, so despite obviously feeling sexual attraction, claim asexuality as a way of keeping people off their back from asking why they aren't dating or married. Seriously wish it was more socially acceptable to be voluntarily and happily single. Alternatively, and the more common variety in "asexual" moids, their preferences are so extreme and fetish ridden that everything they are sexually attracted to is not in the realm of real sex acts people can even do in real life, so while they coom to wild things like vore, inflation, vehicles, whatever, they have no interest in anything that would involve another person's sex organs, so they view themselves as "asexual"
No. 2090930
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While I don’t hate Megan thee stallion I really hate her fans especially after she released her weeb/otaku songs. Her Americanised Japanese fans are the most annoying
No. 2090932
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>>2090930What compels a non—American into liking this
No. 2090937
>>2089291Toxic yuri/wlw/sapphic story
So like the same shit people complain about here are how most GL/WLW stories are “so fluffy omg we’re holding hands you’re soo cute a a a aaa”
No. 2090944
>>2089291>>2089546>>2090937So let me get this straight, people are stereotyping all yuri as braindead fluffy slop when My Lesbian Experience With Loneliness shows a manga that's neither edgy nor fluffy, just a story from the perspective of a flawed maladjusted lesbian. I don't read a whole lot of yuri–the ones I did read were western–so I never understand this criticism. Like, is it
toxic for a same sex couple to be flawed like any sane human being? Depends on who's being asked, but I think when people say they want more yuri where the characters feel human, this isn't what they meant. Not saying these sorts of stories can't exist, but to need to add toxicity as a means of interest reveals an uncreative streak in people.
No. 2090958
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>>2090952NTA but what do you mean she's not a lesbian? Because she read yaoi at one point or because she's a late bloomer with serious issues? AFAIK she's never fucked a dude. I'm not even defending her, I think the older woman/mum fetish is weird but lesbians don't have to be well adjusted because they're human beings like the rest of us
No. 2090982
>>2090955Avril got hit with cultural appropriation accusations by Westerners and hello kitty was cringe back then.
Also idk but her song is a bit cooler and fits her persona . The pic that was circulating had Avril look very un-Avril like to general audiences. She looked like a scene queen which is cringe of course instead as a punk princess that she’s known for
No. 2091023
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>>2090944That's one story. I can name a couple dark yuri stories, but it's not a stereotype for nothing that a lot of yuri are like pic related, pretty but fluff.
No. 2091055
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>Me: opens an average Korean manhwa
>An average Korean manhwa couple:
No. 2091205
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The immense seething this kusoge causes will never end
No. 2091456
>>2090944To be fair, that manga is an illustrated autobiography, not fictional. I love dark relationships regardless of the sexes involve but a story of a real woman with tranny tier fetishes like DDLG hiring a prostitute is too gross even for me. I honestly laugh in hindsight that she's such a
femcel she dissociated before trying to have sex with the escort, lmao
No. 2092049
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Coping Sonico fans will never not be funny
No. 2092064
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>>2092059I like pink a lot (though burgandy is my favorite color) but agreed.
No. 2092069
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>>2092064>I guess it's okay to be into BL though because that sexualizes menYes.
No. 2092082
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>>2092076They exist (Sonico did a collab event with sanrio puroland where a fair amount of Sonico cosplayers showed up) but they're not nearly as common as animecore girls on tiktok think they are.
Obviously women like that do exist in Japan though, someone's gotta produce the lingerie loli art that they all buy.
No. 2092093
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>>2092076the only japanese sonico fan i know of is some coomer male seiyuu who's obsessed with huge tits. Something i have noticed is that most sonico japanese cosplayers are fat kek
No. 2092099
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>>2092092>i-it's totally not coomshit for men and actually made for the girliesKek, yes they do that all the time. Or at least claim 'Sonico's been reclaimed by the girlies'
>How do they talk about their hobby?Unless they're really degenerate most of them just say stuff like 'I love Sonico because she's so cute!'
Weirdly I don't think a lot of them view her in a sexual light.
No. 2092100
>>2092057>>2092064>Can we stop pretending that women cant also enjoy the sexualization of female characters?What a mouthful. Can we stop pretending that most of the pickmes into these kinds of characters aren't simply conditioned by a sexist society to find male approval by objectifying women? Imagine first sperging about how women can totally like needlessly sexualized female characters (as the original article was talking about how
even in shoujo you can't escape from them) and then falling back to the "ackshually they're just cute and totally not sexualized!!!" cope.
Checked "her" youtube channel and of course it's a moid. Go figure.
No. 2092103
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>>2092099>sanrio collabing with a company known for making violent and lolicon erogesjapan's so fucking weird at times
No. 2092105
>>2092098Shut up
nonnie Sonico is for the cute fashionable pinterest girlies because I say so.
>>2092100>as the original article was talking about how even in shoujo you can't escape from themWell, the original post was about a fanmade figure (probably one of those Chinese resin ones) that showed a close up shot of Tohru's underwear which is why people were reasonably upset.
>Checked "her" youtube channel and of course it's a moidTo the surprise of no one. I was thinking it might just be an extreme pick me but it being a moid tracks even more.
No. 2092109
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>>2092103Sanrio collabs with everything.
No. 2092110
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>>2092103also the official illustrations are drawn by tsuji santa, who has drawn for loli eroges and also did super fucking weird sexualized baby and child sonico art. Why cant coomers leave cute things alone.
No. 2092120
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>>2092116True, just pointing out that Sanrio does collabs with 18+ (or at least heavy otaku) media all the time.
No. 2092122
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>>2092099kekk reclaimed by the girlies, like how they released a wedding figure with wedding rings. Ofc she's wearing a cute wedding dress and not some tacky lingerie…
No. 2092135
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>>2092122I had to look it up and it's real kek
No. 2092147
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>>2092135Yup, it's real. All her figures have peculiar descriptions, usually including something about her body.
>>2092138Don't worry, we can remove that pesky skirt, for maximum empowerment!
No. 2092153
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>spend 3 seconds on MFC
>first post is a sonico shrine by a 31yo scrote who ofcourse has the toddler sonico figure where she's covered in cream that looks like cum front and center
maybe he's secretly a tgirl, may his egg crack. Inshallah.
No. 2092155
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>>2092105Actually checked on this video only to spot the marriage sonico figure, fucking kek.
No. 2092167
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>>2092138I don't know about you girlies but I'm feeling pretty empowered right now
>>2092155He has the halfscale one too kek.
No. 2092174
>>2092100>Checked "her" youtube channel and of course it's a moid. Go figure.Holy shit I was expecting the typical nasal clocky tranny voice but he really sounds like just some guy.
Those tweets immediately reeked of transbian to me, but since the bio said they/them I assumed it was a case of major turbo pick meism. This honestly the first time I see a themlet moid, 99% I can automatically assume every they/them to be a woman.
Now him claiming to never see any male Sonico fans makes more sense. He probably saw
plenty of them, but they were either fellow trans girlies, or they were obviously male but didn't have "he/him male" plastered on their bios, so his gendie status requires him to not assume their gender.
>>2092105So the original tweet wasn't even about Sonico but he still made it about his tittywaifu? So he's just comparing animanga for young girls to eroge games for grown moids.
I also notice him talking about "smutty shoujo", as if that wouldn't just be josei, which is actually targeted at a mature audience (probably the word josei isn't kawaii uguu girlhood euphoria enough for him).
>>2092110??? Does Sanrio have a moid audience? Or are the traumacore BPD sanriogirls also a thing in Japan?
No. 2092184
>>2092174>Or are the traumacore BPD sanriogirls also a thing in Japan?Considering stuff like this
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/31027429 and the nekopara artist being a woman,
maybe. No. 2092189
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>>2092174>Now him claiming to never see any male Sonico fans makes more sense. He probably saw plenty of them, but they were either fellow trans girlies, or they were obviously male but didn't have "he/him male" plastered on their bios, so his gendie status requires him to not assume their gender.To be fair, the guy himself doesn't seem to own any Sonico figures. He has Mai chan's daily life in his WL though so pretty obviously still degen.
No. 2092222
>>2092049cant people just simply like an oversexualized anime character because they like it? why over excuse it with all this political bs?
I liked bunny suit Mikuru as a kid because I thought she was hot, didnt need to make it a political statement.
No. 2092231
>>2092222because that means admitting they like something
problematic like the male gaze
No. 2092248
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I wanted to see how the Sandman fandom was reacting to the allegations against Gaiman (what with the second season of the netflix show being announced and all), and was pleasantly surprised that they're being pretty mature about it. Then I saw this.
Imagine thinking that you are literally a fictional character and making it a core part of your identity and then finding out that the author who created you is a disgusting creep. These people have to find a way to cope that doesn't invalidate their fictional character souls, I guess. Would it surprise you to know that this poster also claims to have DID and that their headmates collectively use they/he/it/bug pronouns?
No. 2092502
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>>2092492Jumpscare naked molerat
No. 2092531
>>2092248but guys, don't you know that the journalist is a
terf?? that makes all claims void. neil gaiman did nothing wrong
No. 2092538
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>>2092248>>2092531I just found it so hilarious that JKR lives rent free and thinks she's still worse than a literal alleged abuser of at least two women. Oh right, I guess JKR totally 41% all trans people of course.
No. 2096458
>>20964381st accuser was a 21 year old nanny/au pair of theirs
>On the day they met each other he climbed into her bath and fingered her without consent>He did surprise anal several times including once using butter as lube(?)>Once the pain from anal was so bad she passed out>She says he also hit her with a belt and would make her do degrading stuff like perform oral after doing anal as "punishment"Gaiman says everything was consensual and there are whatsapp messages between them where she thanks him for the sex etc. Worth noting here is that she went to AP about this and she said the nanny was the 14th woman who had said something like this
No. 2096465
>>20964582nd accuser was a 20 year old who met him at 18 at a book signing
>tried to get her to do a threesome with her friend when they were 19>told him not to penetrate he cause she had a UTI but he did it anyway and it was very painfulMy take is he obviously has a taste for extremely young women and at the very least is a serious creep who has been abusing his fame to fuck fans for years at this point. Even if the sex was consensual the weird power tripping, enjoyment of pain and disregard for boundaries is concerning. Also worth mentioning is he had accuser #1 sign an NDA backdated to her first day of employment (thus covering the bath incident.) She apparently went to the police about it but they said no charges would stick.
(Sorry for the essay btw, just hadnt really looked into this myself and came away more than a little disgusted)
No. 2096813
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Why are female hetfags so cucked? Picrel is one of many I’ve encountered, straight women obsessing over the woman I presume they’re self inserting into to the point it borders on homoeroticism except they’re straight. Hell I’m a yumefag and I never understood this voyeuristic expression of sexuality
No. 2096839
>>2096813Tbh I often want to talk about how beautiful and cute my favorite female character I have in a hetship is. I'm straight, but I just really do adore her just as a character, and from women who self-insert I imagine people enjoy comparing themselves to a woman who they also percieve as beautiful.
I feel the issue is a lot of women don't know how to express finding girl characters beautiful without defaulting to coomer moid talk given how prevalent it is online. You can think a girl looks pretty in a bikini without sounding like a moid about it, you can say a woman looks cool without saying you want her to step on you, you can say an anime girl is cute with a pretty design without saying you wanna fuck her. But moidery poisons women's minds everywhere.
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No. 2097036
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Women do not have internalized misogyny because they don't want to read yuri
No. 2097047
>>2097036And what these people consider "sapphic work" is always big tittied Genshin girls they genuinely believe to be "made for sapphics".
>>2097030Actual schizo posting. What the fuck.
>filenameYeah, I've seen the most narcissist ones do this recently. Deadass claiming that effeminate ukes are appropriating "transfeminine culture" kek. The narcissism is off the charts.
No. 2097048
>>2097047>And what these people consider "sapphic work" is always big tittied Genshin girls they genuinely believe to be "made for sapphics". In this person's case it's literally fucking Naruto characters.
>Deadass claiming that effeminate ukes are appropriating "transfeminine culture" kekTruly troons will try and worm their way into every aspect of fandom.
No. 2097080
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>>2097036Is there a term for these troons (because it's always troons) who complain about this? They'll claim to be misandrists or whatever, but the truth is they view themselves as failed males and they just hate the idea of women being attracted to good looking males.
No. 2097097
>>2097036By this logic I'm intellectually challenged for not reading LOTR? yea know there are people who don't yuri, because they just don't like it. It's not a moral falling on their part–simply have nothing to gain by reading said content. That doesn't mean all yuri is bad and not worth your time, but I don't see fujos busting down doors when someone says they don't read yaoi.
>>2097053True, but it's like finding diamonds in a turd shaft. You weren't find a single good gl manga that isn't riddled with male gaze fanservice and braindead pandering.
>>2097080>owl houseWhy do people hyperfixate on a show for preteens? Isn't that a tad creepy? And no, them saying this would be something they loved to watch that age is a shitty excuse.
No. 2097377
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>>2097148It's one of the reasons why I find yuri kinda boring tbh, because it always involves these 'princely' girls who are just women doing a caricature of an outdated idea of a male prince, but taking it seriously
No. 2097383
>>2097317Why do people feel the need to over explain their dislike of something? Just say it's not your cup of tea and move on.
>>2097377Is that really true? all the yuri i've seen has two equally feminine leads with maybe one of them being on the boyish side.
No. 2097410
>>2097383>Why do people feel the need to over explain their dislike of something?The need to find a greater, more intellectual/political/'just' way to legitimise and frame your dislike of something was a massive thing on tumblr back in the day (and livejournal iirc) and spread from there, because it makes it harder for someone to contradict or disagree with you as they run the risk of looking stupid (replying with a simple, direct 'no' instead of their own uni thesis using similar language and talking points), like some kind of evil -ist or like they also disagree with the real world issues that have been tacked onto some dumb piece of media.
It's very tiring.
No. 2097627
>>2097584fujo discourse is a containment thread.
it was established bc people just wouldn't stop rehashing the same argumeent for/against fujos to the point it took over the fandom threads.
No. 2097640
>>2097631The seething about yuri posts usually end up just talking about female characters generally though.
People want to like them and there's plenty that do have some they like, though they're not "ideal".
No. 2098492
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When will it ever end
No. 2098624
>>2098619Literally every yurifag I know is either male or a straight woman but okay.
>That's the whole problem that these TIMs and handmaidens complain about, that straight women aren't reading enough yuri.No, the problem is that BL content exists. They literally think that if people weren't creating all the fujo fanart and fics that effort would be going towards yuri. It's zero sum thinking.
No. 2098638
>>2098624Pretty sure those het women are bi at least. I can't imagine fiction that involves romantic and sexual attraction between women to be any interesting to heterosexual women.
>They literally think that if people weren't creating all the fujo fanart and fics that effort would be going towards yuri. It's zero sum thinking.Well yeah because fandom consist mostly of straight women and there's nothing fundamentally interesting for straight women to create yuri fiction. If you think yuri is for straight women wouldn't you expect to see more of it in fandom?
No. 2098663
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>>2098651NTA but what do you think was a huge part of the demographic of Lady Oscar? Do you really think only seventies Japanese lesbians and men made this such a successful series?
No. 2098668
>>2098663Also series like L Word definitely wasn't carried by a male and lesbian audience kek.
I honestly think it's curious how they can totally accept gay and lesbian people appreciating and enjoying stories about heterosexual romance but if you're straight and like a homosexual one you must be AT LEAST bi and god forbid if you're a homosexual and like a homosexual ship of your opposite gender you're secretly straight. Weird how that works.
No. 2098670
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>>2098663My favorite type of discussion in here is to see fujolards pretending they know about yuri and witnessing the extremely dumb and ignorant takes they have.
No. 2098681
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>>2098677i wonder if yuripedo likes virgins empire, the author is like her and has a fujo fetish
No. 2098699
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>>2098686Personally I prefer yuri series by pornsick women.
No. 2098716
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>>2098686i will give it to male yuritards, they are normally insanely good at art.
No. 2098748
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Post straight-core yuri manga.(wrong thread)
No. 2098757
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>>2098748Here is another one all the straight girlies love.
No. 2098759
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>>2098757And this is hands down the all-time favorite for straight women.
No. 2098760
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>>2098663I tried watching Lady Oscar and it has the exact same issue I talked about earlier. It's theatrical and over-the-top. I could never see it as anything more than Japanese school children just doing a play on the French Revolution
No. 2098768
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>>2098759And this is the one that all heterosexual yuri boomers realized they are heterosexual with because it cannot get any more peak heterosexual than pure, raw, unadultered platonic love between no homo girls than this.
No. 2098774
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>>2098768And when you're feeling alt-thot this is definitely the heterosexual yuri manga to go to.
No. 2098787
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>>2098774When you feel like there is not enough bisexuality and cuckoldry for you to relate to, pic related never fails to attract the heterosexual female audience with the stuff they like.
No. 2098788
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>>2098775>yuriyurithe only yuri for straight women
No. 2098792
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>>2098787If everything else is too gay for your taste but you still want to be cool with your tumblr friends you can just headcanon that this manga is about lesbians and call it a day.
No. 2098821
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>>2098803These days it's commonly called rezu but of course a retarded fujo that doesn't know about the genre wouldn't know kek. Also most lesbians in Asia simply like GL/yuri, and it's only terminally online western tardfems that seethe about it because they think the whole genre is made by scrotes out of ignorance (how would you ever know if you spend every evening getting off to feminist greek-style shota rapefics).
(infighting) No. 2098836
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>>2098828The Marimite novels readers were 90% women, but when the anime got released it actually got a mostly male following. It's one of those instances where where scrotes thought it's fun and quirky to like a super girly series. thus it prompted nearly a decade of Marimite references in other anime and Marimite crossover fanart with turbo-moid media.
No. 2098886
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>>2098836tbh I don't actually resent Marimite being popular with the scrotes. A lot of cool shit popped out as a result of such popularity. There was even a doujin fighting game released which sometimes I still play in an XP VM. I'm just happy a yuri-adjacent work ever got as popular as this. No other yuri-adjacent series has 4 seasons besides Yuru Yuri (which is kinda garbage anyway).
No. 2098963
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>every average shitty comedy
No. 2098978
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I'm a himejoshi instead of a fujoshi. I like yuri despite being a woman, and I do not think it's boring.
No. 2098979
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>>2098963>Green textTrue, that ship dynamic if it were more misogynistic is basically The Big Bang Theory
No. 2098993
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himejos definitely have it easier in western fandom spaces, i'll just say that
No. 2099513
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>>2099495Me too, it's so retarded when the same types of books have been available since the early seventies and before, and bored women weren't flicking the bean to those books for hours and hours and hours on end back then and they still aren't. Meanwhile until very recently it was difficult to get "normal" porn and even harder to get the fucked up shit you see moids get off to now and now men and teen boys will randomly choke or hit women during sex and/or have the most fucked up fetishes to the point they can't even get a erection without watching several screens of porn. They're so fucking threatened by the idea of a fictional man that's kind of just normal and average 99% of the time with a gimmick like being rich or being a novelist etc., but gasp he's not morbidly obese and unclean and a quarter of the time he's not being mean or creepy for no reason, oh god that literally kills men
No. 2099531
>>2099524NTA I think that's in part to the ravishing fetish that the books cater to. I don't think most women got off to the BDSM I think it was more that the idea of someone desiring you and only you and having that intense attraction show through their actions
A lot of women also find the idea of a moid ejaculating after making out/just seeing bare skin super hot This is also partly why Twilight and other YA of a similar vein got so popular
No. 2099546
>>2099522performing for who? each other? if we're talking dark romance erotica, it's pretty obviously a female space with men who stumble across it barely able to comprehend its existence or popularity. Men have only recently cottoned on to any of this, but the discussion has been alive within female spaces for years (only discussed with softer terms rather than direct ones like 'coomer' or 'pornsick' or the more recent widespread adoption of 'gooner')
it's kind of wild to me that people will act like women are magical nuns impervious to sexual thoughts and subject matter whenever this topic comes up, or that they must privately engage in media that they only discuss with other women for the purpose of male approval rather than their own interests, and then you'll see in this thread and others anons getting heated because someone brings up something they can't personally coom to, even if that was never the intent behind bringing up the subject.
Women obviously don't express their pornsickness in the same way average male coomers do (well, the vast majority don't, at least), and definitely not like the more extreme male cases, but it's retarded to think we're somehow exempt from porn's effects.
No. 2099562
>>2099541I will contribute if that ever happens.
>>2099538Seems like I'm good at avoiding that kind of videos and posts online, but I blocked several thousands of twitter accounts so far and muted a lot of words so maybe that's why I haven't seen this kind of brain dead content.
No. 2100752
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>>2070274You were right and I didn't listen
>barely touches on what made the fans cringe, just them being everywhere at the time of the video>halfway through it turns into a "the shocking death game is problematic because it depicts/i project xyz bad thing onto it so i denounce ever liking it!!!" rantSo the usual moral grandstanding but from a moid this time. He also ticks many young male transmaiden boxes (clearly autistic, nintoddler, dubfag), the sort of profile to prefer Ace Attorney due to moral/peer pressure reasons. If you told me he's into JoJo or Persona too I wouldn't even question it.
>why write thisso nobody else has to spend 20 minutes watching it lol
No. 2100822
>>2100767It's hard to believe that these men wouldn't be aroused by irl male genitalia when they only consume penis-focused fetish content tbh. Even if they wouldn't suck a dick for whatever reason, them wanting to fuck other males is already bisexual.
>On the opposite spectrum, there’s self-admitted straight women that ship female characters together and read Yuri/baiheI'm still looking for these supposedly heterosexual women that are obsessed with yuri. I understand if they would ship a couple fem characters or read some yuri content, but I still haven't came across one with the level of obsession for yuri as a fujo for yaoi.
Also it's way too common for pedophiles to consume loli, despite lolis, objectively speaking, not looking like real children. Most definitely the human brain can look at these 2D abstractions and recognize them as the humans they intend to represent.
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KEK
No. 2100824
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>>2100823Full context btw
No. 2100847
>>2099557>>2099541>>2099538>>2099532Like
>>2099505 said "fujocoomer" has been used here for a while. And the word coomer comes from beyond recent internet usage of "porn addiction". People nowadays call anything a porn addiction, but women and others have been made fun of on this site and other boards for being coomers(or obsessed with any genre of hentai) for a while
No. 2100926
>>2100823Ngl I do get it when if its a female author trying to talk about sexualized topics and not wanting it to be seen as fetish fuel for moids.
If you want to discuss something like rape, moids are going to see it through a perverted gaze if you use a female character.
No. 2101145
>>2101133Same, I like that anything can happen. Now we have shit like
Kenjaku probably wanting to fuck Sukuna so bad for so long he settled for his reincarnated twin. It could have been a much more serious and darker story with more obvious implications if it weren't for Gege having to tone things down and simplify them to make sure 10 years old Japanese kids can understand what's going on but here we are.
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No. 2101171
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I cannot actually believe that these retarded TIFs took the bait. It’s so obvious that Mihoyo is using ZZZ as a way to test the boundaries of whether they can keep their female cash cows while producing another waifu-only coomer game like Hi3. How can you be so fucking retarded? They gave you a dog. A bear. And a robot. And somehow women are still falling for this shit. I’m genuinely flabbergasted, how can anyone be so fucking dumb??? This has to be wilful ignorance. Or cope.
No. 2101183
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>>2101171the character designer is also a lolicon, whose only prior design works is lolis in slut clothes. I wonder if he had to suck some dicks to get to design characters for mihoyo, his designs are shit.
No. 2101188
>>2100926This. I will forever defend women's right to vent about rape and abuse by making art and writing fiction where a male character gets abused and raped, and if moids and these weak ass handmaidens are
triggered by it, good.
No. 2101194
>>2101184The bunny girl incident scarred hoyo for life.
>>2101185I'm just saying a bit of character variety doesn't hurt both sides. I'm still holding out hope for a full on anthro girl instead of the half ass shit we got now.
No. 2101195
>>2101188>>2100926There's also a certain level of detachment when your vent character is a male
speaking from experience so it's likely just easier for the authors psychologically to process and unpack their trauma.
No. 2101243
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>>2101219the communist party should send these whiners to labor camps
No. 2101253
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>>2101243>>2101248Eastern fandoms for Gacha games attract autism us Westerners can't even fathom. Korea had the infamous Limbus controversy where incels LAID SIEGE TO THE HQ BUILDING and got staff members fired over a conspiracy that there were feminists on the design team… because a female character's skin-tight wetsuit apparently wasn't sexy enough, and a male character wearing an open shirt to the beach
triggered them. I wish I was joking.
No. 2101258
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>>2101253Samefag, here is the dirty male siren whose shameful lack of body coverage sparked the movement kek
No. 2101261
>>2101253ah I see the problem, the justification for their rage- no vacuum-sealed cleavage. Truly a crime against coom.
>>2101258imagine being so weak kek
No. 2101383
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>>2101194Oh you poor, sweet, naïve nona…
No. 2101406
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>>2101183if the milk was just about his loli art then i doubt normies would ever complain, it's nothing worse than what the Nagatoro guy drew. but the pixiv thing
>>2070482 is truly rancid, it's shit like porn of joel's daughter Sarah from the last of us.
i really thought that controversy would create itself but I guess not, all i can find is toothless tweets calling him a lolicon with no elaboration. the key as an artist to get away with pedophilia is to have the evidence be so disgusting that nobody wants to share or save it.
No. 2101417
>>2101409Loli is hated for the normally said reasons and also moids.
Shota is in a weird position where a lot of weebs here liked series that involved that when they were younger. Plus in some, there's a little more trust that women wouldn't be as retarded about the difference between fantasy and fiction.
No. 2101436
>>2101406Nonas, I have an idea. Some big TIF fandom account should tweet something like:
> “If you play ZZZ or are in the ZZZ fandom then you support lolicon, pedophilia and CSA!!! A thread:”Only by calling on the dregs of proship discourse can we convince gullible teenage girls to steer clear of this coomoid propagandist bullcrap. It might just work…
No. 2101478
>>2101465>Someone hasn't heard of himepen,Yeah, nobody really gives a fuck about some retard.
Now look at /m/ and see how many shota adjacent shows are talked about and have threads.
No. 2101499
>>2101478>Now look at /m/ and see how many shota adjacent shows are talked about and have threads.? are you retarded? Where did I mention anything about lc? And ofcourse there'd be no main shota threads here since it's banned here retard
unless it's the fujo thread ofcourse you can't just pretend loli is harmful with real life consequences while shota is the lesser evil.
No. 2101506
>>2101499Shota
adjacent, as in the Hetalia threads, the anime threads, fgo, Enstars, Twisted Wonderland, etc.
Learn to read better.
Hell the anime thread has been circling around that new shotabait show for a while now.
No. 2101520
>>2101514Wait, you were genuinely asking?
I'm sorry for being mean.
No. 2101615
>>2101533I found everything about it to be
sus. So you're telling me a show that was made for horny male otaku has things horny male otaku like? who would've thought kek. Honestly the dragon loli memes were stupid and did nothing to dissuade the lolicons from drawing porn of her. The show often depicts her in a very lewd relationship with a equally young character but no one noticed?
No. 2101658
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>>2101629All the lolicon and shoved in fanservice is why I rarely watch anime these days. Maybe like 3 shows a season but then you have to contend with shitty character archetypes and overdone plotlines that go nowhere, leaving you wondering if it was worth your time. It's weird because I don't mind consuming anime adjacent media or indulge in the idea of anime, but anime at it's core is inherently losing its's soul as more and more shutins join the industry with their incestous flith. Miyazaki is a weird mind but his anime is a mistake quote (or misquote) illustrates my feelings perfectly. Sad thing is, people will still buy into it. so as long as anime entertains the idea of unadulterated escapism, anime can never become art, at least in this era.
No. 2101911
>>2101902>women into shota aren't actual pedoslol
lmao
No. 2101959
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>>2101937if someone is telling you they aren’t attracted to kids, why do you want them to be attracted so badly? anime characters don’t resemble human beings in any way that matters. see picrel. one is just an anime girl, one is uncanny valley costhot
No. 2101968
>>2101956Is there a difference between the two in your opinion?
I read the only reply you seem to be able to make but that doesn't answer the simple question I asked you.
No. 2101991
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>>2101979I don't read yaoi, but I know one female yuri author that went down the oneloli spiral, never managed to become normal again and just started posting creepy tweets about wanting to carry lolis in her luggage, taking care of her niece, and other deranged shit that just screams pedophile (leaving aside all the oneloli manga she did including lewds). I also have an acquaintance that is obsessed with oneloli and she told me about being SA as a child so I guess that's her "outlet" instead of creeping on real little girls.
No. 2101998
>>2101992Then are you asking for lolishota anime or are you asking for pedophiles? Of course I know anime with lolishota in it but you were asking me what female authors are pedophiles
>>2101923. Those are two completely different questions. You aren't coming at this conversation with good intentions because your goal posts keep shifting.
No. 2102002
>>2101992>>2101998Samefagging but if your question is who are pedophile female authors to avoid then I've already answered your question here
>>2101972If you're asking for lolishota anime then go in the anime thread because I can't help you with that unless you want me to just spitball random anime until you think I've said enough.
No. 2102028
>>2102002You didn't say anything other than "Eh idk look it up yourself".
That's a pretty terrible non answer.
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>>2102079NTA but there's a few if you have a look at non super mainstream garbo
No. 2102091
>>2102033What is there to say? You don't know shit and are talking out of your ass? You made that clear enough kek.
Go back to Tiktok.
(infighting) No. 2102093
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>>2102051Those series had shota in them though. Hetalia has the crossdressing italies getting groped by Spain and France and Teisted Wonderland has that blue haired robo shota and is made by the Black Butler's author, Ceil is a shota.
Well, fgo is known for loli but that's kind of besides the point, isn't it? It's fine to call them shota adjacent when they have shota in them.
No. 2102116
>>2102108The goonies is a real life action movie and not anime.
Why would fgo lolis loli but young male characters not be shota?
>>2102112Yes.
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>>2102093It's insane to me that picrel is apparently equivalent to disgusting loli designs like the waterkuma stuff posted earlier, where the character literally looks like a chubby toddler wearing porno clothes.
I feel like female teenagers being sexualized is so common it generally is accepted but for men, the actually equivalent design of a high-school boy in shorts or something ends up labeled shota. If you don't like sexualizing teens overall, that's fair and reasonable but I'm sick of seeing people cry omg lolisho and it's a fucking high school boy in full coverage clothing vs some elementary schooler in a thong.
Earnestly tell me how picrel resembles an elementary schooler and deserves to be placed on the same level as waterkuma.
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This pickme responding to complaints about ZZZ's male chara design LMAOOOO IMAGINE BEING THIS CUCKED.
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don’t know if this ot but i wish i could show this picture to every retard who insists sexualized female designs are actually feminist and cool. or a sign that the character in question is embracing her own sexuality. note: i’m fine with these designs it just annoys me to see them praised as empowering or not actually fapb8
No. 2103399
>>2103326Yeah kek I can't be assed with these arguments since the way a cartoon character is dressed has never made me self conscious, but anyone making any argument outside of the character designer having a hard-on while drawing them is coping. Why come up with 20 copes when you can say "the designer wanted her to have her ass out" and that'd make more sense. Also, I don't know why ZZZ keeps coming up, I just like the gameplay. I hit level 40 yesterday and I think I like it better than these repeated open world games. Hopefully the fandom for this one won't be shit, seems like it's already knee-deep in controversy.
There's a couple more extremely samey games coming out but I'm holding out for infinity Nikki too, I hope it's fun.
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>>2102348>>2102093But nonna, these two characters are literally the same.
BTW, I picked the "most outrageous" card of ortho that made retards go
>OMG but ortho is just baby!!!In the end it's crazy how anything touched by a woman ends up being considered dirty and something unspeakable. Yes , Toboso loves her "shotas" if you can even call them that, but it's dumb to say that someone like ortho or even riddle or epel are shotas when most of the time they don't even wear shota-like outfits, they don't have shirtless outfits showing weird puffy nipples or weird expressions that are supposed to be sexy.
Like how is anything from Twisted Wonderland or even hetalia supposed to be shota when the point of the young characters is that they're cute, that's about it.
(shota derail) No. 2103601
>>2102348>>2103470Idk, if Ceil counts as a shota then I don't see why a character drawn by the same artist that looks same age/younger wouldn't count.
It's not like all loli look like the same either, Megumin is considered one too.
No. 2103615
>>2103470If the shotacon author's intention was for them to be seen as shota and they get shota doujinshi and are tagged as shota and other characters are called out as shotacon for flirting with them, I'm sorry but the character you like is a shota.
>b-but loli is worse!Who the fuck cares. Female characters are in general, treated worse and this whole stupid crossbreed infighting is absolutely retarded.
No. 2103660
>>2103648Yes, her design is worse.
That doesn't change anything.
Its like saying yaoi isn't porn because shitty moid hentai is worse.
It doesn't matter what is worse when it comes to what something
is.
No. 2103675
>>2103670It is possible for an artist to make a bad design.
That doesn't change the intentions of that design.
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>>2103648>One looks like its traced from a real child no it doesn’t? she looks like a tiny adult, she has curves and ass and thighs. not trying to defend this shit but this statement is totally false
No. 2104146
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will this controversy be the thing that finally puts genshin in the ground
No. 2104173
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>>2104110>tiny adult>she has curves and ass and thighs.>this known loli artits totes drew a petite adult!!Retard
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>>2101323> Google Dorontabi > Literally the first image result is fetish art Nothing of value lost. Based Korean feminists.
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>>2104110She looks like if a mad scientist coomer went nuts fucking around with hamster genetics.
But I see what you mean, there's a difference between this and pic related which is worse imo.
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Anyone else find it funny how zoomers are such massive moralfags while also being the biggest weebs? dont get me wrong i am glad faggots like zach and chris are getting cancelled for being friends with shadman, but i just find it hilarious that most of these tweets condemning shadman for drawing loli come from weebs with anime pfp.
No. 2104529
>>2104520While I agree that zoomers being moralfags while posting about coomer anime is pretty dumb, there's a difference between drawing some loli a 40 year old coomer created and drawing based on a real child.
Imagine being a kid growing up and finding out that someone drew
that of you and it exists online.
No. 2105128
>>2104520i feel sorry for kids nowadays that they cant just enjoy anime in a simple manner anymore. Constantly tying to apply politics and morality to each piece of media you consume must wear on the mind eventually.
Feel lucky that the only way i couldve talked to other anime fans back in the day was through deviantart or actual conventions irl.
No. 2107243
>>2107208SA here's the thing, I don't, not as much as I use to. I chalk it up to communities being such
toxic cesspools that even getting whiff could land me on my deathbed. But if you really wanna know
#genshin#. I could've used otomes as an example until I realized most niche fandoms have less retards running around compared to mainstream ones.
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>>2107148>not here >mentions genshin>immediately insulted>was afraid to mention in the first placeI don't think it's a woman dominated thing though because if you look at say, genshin's main sub reddit and say you like scaramouche a bunch of moids will materialize and lecture you about how awful he is depending on the time of day.
It's not genshin specific either, in ff14 spaces for example I have people crawl up my ass not just for liking certain characters, but not liking/disliking them in the "correct" way.
I've gone on this rant before but I wish we had more focused communities with specific mods enforcing shit beyond the standard minimum no spam and illegal stuff, and the design of modern social media feeds stuff to people who aren't interested in it constantly. It makes it harder to find the niche you want, and will attract people who will sperg at you for insulting LITERALLY THEM if you say elezen are ugly because their necks are too long or some shit.
Unironically genshin is better than some of the other stuff I like because it's fuckhuge enough to have some character specific subs, and most shitters I just tell myself are children. When someone spergs at me for LOVING A LITERAL GENOCIDE because I said a villian was funny and I liked him, even though they also like a different genocidal villian just fine, knowing it's a definitely an adult is so much more depressing. I can take banter and ribbing but get over yourself god. It really made me lose interest in ff14 faster since I couldn't even regularly hold a good discussion about the parts I liked.
I feel like you really just have to luck out and find a small group of people/comm that are adults that aren't terminally twitter brained or whatever, but also care enough to have a semblance of regular posting, and have at least a little interest in analysis, and that's really hard right now.
If you're really scared of being "cancelled" all the time though I'd just disconnect entirely. Doesn't seem like it's worth stressing yourself over. Fandom should be fun first and foremost.
No. 2107400
>>2107148The grass isn't greener on the other side, anon. As someone who used to be into a very male-dominated hobby they got so fucking mad if you disagreed with them to the point they endlessly talked shit about you like a high schooler. And while farmers stereotype female-dominated hobbies as being an ant nest of "SJWs" attacking you for not headcanoning a character as a tranny or something, try being in a male fandom and say a critical word about a clearly underage female character being canonly sexualized and see where that gets you with them. You will be called every misogynist slur in the book and excommunicated for the crime of thinking unconditional male coomery is disgusting.
>>2107392>When someone spergs at me for LOVING A LITERAL GENOCIDE because I said a villian was funny and I liked him, even though they also like a different genocidal villian just fineRaidenfags whiteknighting her but screaming at Childe stans will never be not funny. Genshin waifufags are pure cancer, not as bad as Honkaifags, but still pretty horrible.
No. 2107418
>>2107400Probably will get called out for this but it's much easier to ignore cooming posts than it is to ignore moralfagging tifs and pronouns, at least imo.
Ngl, my experience, sometimes coming at sexualization from an inverse "this doesn't fit the setting or character, it feels tacky" rather than from a pov of morality doesn't get you shit on.
No. 2107435
>>2107392I left the game a long time ago by a combination of shitty business practices, boring open world gameplay, and all around terrible community. I think saying it's "woman dominated" wasn't the correct choice here but women aren't immune to saying the most retarded shit. It's just online crap though. Moids will happily go onto the streets murdering cats over a bunch of pixels.
>>2107400I'm straight and every female space I've been to are filled with dick worshipping handmaidens who think it's so gay to shove nbs and troons down everyone's throats or even declare being truly straight is a myth. Rubbed me in all sorts of ways and left almost every community over it. But then you have male dominated groups where if you so much as voice you like men in ways they don't approve of you're labeled a pariah and bullied to insanity. I might as well live in my own small corner because I'm slowly starting to hate everything.
>>2107418Coom post can be ignored but when you voice a personal preference they take it out to be an attack which says a lot. You're also ignoring moids internalize this sort of stuff while most women know what they see isn't real and don't bring it into real life. The only women I know with perception problems are usually mentally maladjusted.
No. 2107538
>>2107495Ffs, do you want me to give a list of male fandoms I've been in or something?
Frankly, I find it much more likely that people like you would turn away from any male dominated fandom quickly.
No. 2107560
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>>2107148by being scared of fat tifs who are one angry internet slapfight away from dying of a heart attack you are part of the problem. Be like this based russian artist instead.
No. 2107564
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>>2107561she's a queen, we really need more women like her in fandom
No. 2107596
>>2107560Could lose the mask but way hotter than westernized titchop slop. I want more of this.
>>2107586Thanks nonna. I'm trying, but it's hard to find media that really clicks without dealing with a community that makes it even worse. Even the less niche fandoms have their fair share of slap fights so it's not all sunshine. Maybe I'm just picky as hell since I'm craving something that speaks to me on a almost primal level, like has my taste in men, has action, drama, romance and character driven moments. but when it does, there's one deal breaker that makes me wanna leave as soon as possible.
No. 2107600
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>>2107596>Could lose the mask but way hotter than westernized titchop slopa piece of dog shit is hoter than this tbh
No. 2107625
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>>2107609How did you know it was the old man fuckers, anon
Have you suffered as I have
Before that it was gross yotsuyu "step on me mommy" types seething that I liked asahi
I'm not saying my taste is good but I am very consistent
No. 2107657
>>2107629It is, but I use to frequent the main subs for news and fanart until got too much. Every hallmark of a bad fandom was here–whining about the character designs, whining about the gender ratios, whining about any hints that a character could be straight, taken, or gay. Now with natlan, everyone is going nuclear over the skin colors and here I am being disappointed that mihoyo once again made the guys not skimpy but the girls were. Being shirtless must be "feminine" to the ccp lol.
>>2107633>isn't the female characters outfit a bit too revealing?If it makes you feel better, my threshold for female sexualization tolerance is fairly high and it use to be higher when I was young confused teen. Nowadays I can't stomach content that stares at a women's body parts for too long. A woman with a bit cleavage or a slit dress is fine though, and perferabe to all the coomshit that goes through nikke design office.
>the male character's art might not be pretty enough I feel my taste is between that of a straight woman's and a gay man's. I don't like skinny bishes but don't like hairy weightlifters either so I'm left with a middle ground that rarely gets executed well. but one thing's for sure, if I feel attraction then the artist and writers knew what they were doing.
>I'm not sure about the politics…What politics are we talking about? I'm only a smidge left leaning so rightoid talking points never sat right with me but far left tankies glazing their braindead ideologies is equally as annoying. There's also the mentally ill troons. Every single leftist space ahd them.
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>>2107657>I don't like skinny bishes but don't like hairy weightlifters either so I'm left with a middle ground that rarely gets executed well.something like pic rel? if so we have similar taste, although i also like skinny bishies.
No. 2108006
>>2107148It’s so unfortunate because of how the issues extend not only to fandom but to other hobby/interest communities, you have to always perform morality. You have to always include everyone.
The things that could get me in trouble (opinions about trans movement/real world conflicts or politics) I just keep to myself because it’s not worth It, but I don’t really care about most remaining things. I don’t mind being viewed as callous, gatekeeper, or even annoying for correcting false information.
No. 2108184
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What are your guys’ thoughts on the new belial skin for gbfvs? I saw some moids on twitter whining about it and asking for female micro bikini skins. It’s hilarious how you have thousands of franchises out there where the women are sexualized to hell and forth but when one male character suddenly gets the same treatment these faggots act like they’re being oppressed.
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>>2108419hope you enjoy it, nonna! there are some very slutty males in this game (especially belial from the pic above, his whole thing is literally about being an uninhibited whore and he has the summer card in picrel on the right where you can basically see his balls)
they also today just revealed summer beelzebub who is straight up fully nude. you have to deal with a lot of boobyshit on the female characters side of things but honestly the dudes are all pretty awesome husbandos. there's probably at least one you'll love.
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the anons who suffered for an entire month when the mr beast yaoi drawing was OP have been avenged. This must be her 9/11, i hope she learns and never draws troons and youtubers again.
No. 2109327
>>2104520not into chainsaw man as I am an adult, but everything I've come across from this anime indicates that the writer is just a regular ole coomer with a femdom fetish. It's so funny seeing the retarded female fandom whine about how he's "one of the few good and serious representations of male
victims of grooming :(((" and it couldn't be more obvious that its just the moid author cooming to it as usual kek. when will animanga fans learn.
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>>2108952honestly, i feel the same way. he used to be such an attractive character with an interesting personality and backstory, and now he is nothing but an ugly e-thot with a cringey top hat and the nu-testament fans only give a fuck about his thighs and him being ~nonbinary~, i don't even see what is androgynous about his new design? he just looks like a slut straight off of r/goth, there is no masculinity to balance the femininity at all.
also he plays like shit in strive, but everyone does in that game. not to sound like a moid, but its truly a soulless redesign.
No. 2109951
>>2109327Chainsaw man’s female fans on twitter are some of dumbest retards alive. Its one thing to just like the manga for what it is but its another to pretend like its a profound piece on male
victims of SA. CSMfags in general lack the self awareness to realize fatjimoto is still drawing shounen slop with shit art.
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Anyone else here annoyed with the moralfagging over (usually male) characters ages in fandom spaces? I’m not even talking about shota stuff here, I’m talking about teenagers who are adults in everything except for the fact they’re teens in order to appeal to the main demographic. Like I saw some woman drawing bakudeku yaoi and cue moralfags crying over how they’re 16. The greatest irony of it all? They’re usually fans of works made by moids that sexualize minors themselves like chainsaw man (discussed above) and evangelion. This seems to be a mostly Anglo problem though because Hispanics and easterners from what I’ve seen don’t give a fuck.
No. 2110395
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>>2110341I’m not denying that it sexualizes the underage female characters. I don’t care if women sexualise Deku as long as they don’t moralfag about sexualising younger characters because he looks far from adult.
No. 2110396
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Fujos somehow manage to make everything about their gay fantasies, mind you the athlete in this pic is suffering from diaphragm issues.
No. 2110456
>>2110422The vampire lover in me sees this as an intimate, ardent display of love. If I had a vampire bf or gf, I would love to experience this. I imagine that the one on top is the vampire and he tackled the bottom one and fed from him after a long time apart. The blood smearing is an impulsive decision made from the adrenaline and passion of finally reuniting with his human lover
I'm not a fujo or anything btw, my vampire attraction is clouding my vision..
No. 2110638
>>2110626It's always the same thing, TiFs and handmaidens/pickmes being mad at women acting like evil fiends who dare to voice anything about feeling any sort of arousal.
But then you had people defending some retard posting "me and who hurrdurr" memes with a moid choking a woman to death. Where were those retards when moids were talking about how totally
valid is it to want to choke a woman while having sex? Ah, right, they were too busy retweeting retarded shit like gofundmes and shitty fanart.
It's the same issue over and over again, women can't have/like anything.
No. 2110832
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I just randomly wanted to say I am sick of weird supposed fans into JJk who are completely against sexualizing Gojo. Like, they openly go on social media to shame women who sexualize Gojo. Even worse are the pick mes who side with men about it. just fuck em. I will continue to sexualize him, because that's what the lord would want. They need to save this kind of energy for men into anime
No. 2110849
>>2110832Moralfags will act like you molested someone if you sexualize the male characters in jjk meanwhile you have men who do the same thing with female characters that are sometimes underaged and even look like straight up children. But nooooo muh female gooners.
It’s funny when people act like you’re supposed to take these characters seriously as if they aren’t from some mid shonenslop, coom is the only thing jjk moids are good for who gaf
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I think you should kill yourself
No. 2111981
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>>2110832Honestly I don't care for him but it's hilarious to see the moid reaction to women doing shit like picrel. So many men used to do weird shit like calculating the surface area of a female character's ass and other degenerate shit, so it's nice to see them have a taste of their own medicine
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>>2111645One of the comments mentioned this artist getting harassed for doing that. Crazy how waifucels will not put up with this kind of thing in fanart while women usually stay quiet or pretend to also like bodyhair when someone draws their husbando in a similar way
No. 2112100
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>>2112030Online it's easy to avoid this kind of drama even by accident thanks to the language barrier, but I've seen some issues related to irl activities. Everytime there's an official event in Japan like an exhibit or a collab cafe there are a lot of Chinese scalpers ruining things for others, hoarding several seats alone so they can buy more merchs than the limit for one customers by taking advantage of online reservations systems, reselling merchs online for outrageous prices which forces these events to plan official online sales, etc. See pic related but I wish I could find the tweet about the same event about one Chinese scalper going to the JJK cafe, ordering 50 drinks, only drinking a few ones and taking all the paper decorations on the straws to resell them online. I wish I could find more about cons in Asian countries besides popular artists with lots of followers just advertising their new doujinshi.
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>>2112100For context, I'm talking about the small round pieces of paper with characters printed on them like here. I hope nobody buys that shit with real money online because this is pathetic. I've also seen a viral tweet recently about a scalper selling second hand badges on one super popular character from this event and sending badges of a different character later.
>>2112032>>2112037My first thought was that Chinese Hellsing fan whose husbando is the obese blond nazi. She had so many accounts in total that I never know what she's up to.
No. 2112173
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>>2112073>while women usually stay quiet or pretend to also like bodyhairBecause women are afraid. Men aren't.
Men don't care if they are called homophobic, transphobic, racist, nazi, bigot, etc. They are proud of it.
And that's why gendies are afraid of them.
No. 2112193
>>2111981Magnificent
>>2112173Do they got doxxed and their careers ruined in same amount as women?
No. 2112209
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>>2112201Nta but even if there was, he still has a thriving platform, the amount of backlash isn't that bad if he has over 2 million subscribers
No. 2112214
>>2112201I don't know, I've never seen his videos even though they constantly pop up on my YouTube feed. But apparently despite the controversies all of his social media accounts are active like
>>2112209 pointed. I highly doubt they'd be able to ban him from the internet for any controversy. The only reason you can ban a man completely from the internet is for possession of cp or if he goes to jail. And yet Shadman keeps his twitter account despite being the most
problematic artist on the internet. I can name many more, and they all still keep their jobs and platforms. While mildly
problematic women get harassed, doxxed, fired, etc. for much less.
No. 2112238
>>2112030Tbf when people say asian fandoms are better they mostly just mean they don't have to see it visually.
When there's drama, there's always a need to draw it in comic form and fill their twitter with screenshots instead of leaving it off the media tab for some reason.
No. 2112314
>>2110849Based. It's true. JJk barely has a story outside of itadori eating fingers and then endless fighting. I'm gonna sexualize these dumb whores if I want to. Anyone trying to defend JJK for being a genuinely good show/manga is smoothbrain. Gege has no idea how to write characters outside of a few tropes.
>>2110844>>2110923I miss when anime wasnt mainstream tbh
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>>2112030>>2112032anons, dl hitomi mass download that shit before its too late. I have like 20 galleries that are completly lost media(not archived on danbooru or gelbooru) in my HDD because i am a digital hoarder
No. 2112810
>>2112654I usually avoid the fandom, but sometimes I feel I have to drop the content. It depends on how good the content is or if it suddenly begins to pander to the people.
>>2112751I have to admit that sometimes I've been weak enough that a shitty fandom will ruin the content for me. I feel this way with the current House of the Dragon fandom. But what helps me is talking to people who aren't online or active on social media because they always have a better understanding of the plot and characters.
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>>2113285screenshot of his date of birth
No. 2113851
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>>2113285>>2113290yeah this is him kek what an ugly scrote but kiwifags won't do shit
No. 2116226
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>DO NOT DRAW INCEST
You’re not the boss of me
No. 2116274
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>>2116265You’ll figure it out
No. 2116869
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>>2109969I literally just saw an ig reel where the poster said they couldn't get into the story due to the fanservice and a bunch of zoomers were crying in the comments that it's "not fanservice"
The creator HIMSELF has admitted the femdom rape stuff is a fetish for him, but even if he didnt, the same people denying it are also the exact same group that can clock things like picrel as obvious fetish art, but for some reason refuse to admit any of the gooner content in csm is in fact gooner content.
No. 2116972
>>2114970Pippa is a known lolicoomer polfag pickme who has had friends who were actual pedophiles
himepen shes actively made jokes about women fucking dogs,fucking 12 year old children and "foid" humour.she cultivated that audience that doxxes anyone so it shouldn't be a surprise they doxxed her in turn.its not because shes a woman it's because she's a retard
and she's possibly a handmaiden considering she's dating a troon No. 2116987
>>2112243Scrotes sexualize the women in women's sports 10000000 times worse. In fact, some women's sports have obviously misogynistic elements such as shorter shorts for the female teams vs male teams. I mean, other than male boners, is there a reason why women in race walk must wear shorter shorts than the men? What the fuck? It's such a small but fucked up detail I noticed. Why have moids' sports uniform shorts gotten longer but women's sometimes look like underwear? And then there's shit like women's American football… I was looking at pictures of female MMA fighters and of course a lot of them have to wear makeup and look sexy even though they're paid to beat each other up to near-death and make each other bleed. Do the scrotes in the same "sport" do that? No, they gotta look cool and badass all the time without being hot on purpose because then they would scare all their smegmoid audience. And of course there's "top 10 most beautiful female MMA fighters" kind of lists everywhere. Even ignoring all the sexualization, women's sports in general aren't taken as seriously as men's sports. Considering all this, it's not all that bad if some women get off to a random hot athlete in pain being hot. Scrotums get off to much, much worse shit.
>>2110396Me on the right
>>2110456Me too nona don't worry
>>2110849>meanwhile you have men who do the same thing with female characters that are sometimes underaged and even look like straight up children.It's been so disgustingly normalized to sexualize and absolutely fetishize the fuck out of the whole concept of high-schoolgirls (sometimes middle schoolgirls) in otaku culture. Doing that used to be considered lolicon, shameful and immoral and it even felt illegal, but now nobody bats a fucking eye. The pedophile moids won. But women and even underage teenage girls are absolutely forbidden from being horny over fictional oniisans/young adult men, or male characters that don't even look underage (but bishoujo are the opposite, of course). Scrotes sexualize anything and everything so sexualizing and fetishizing the pain and suffering of fictional AND REAL women/girls is a piece of cake for them. But god forbid if you want to fuck the poor traumatized 2D biseinen that's being milked for all those delicious fujo and yumebucks by its own copyright holders!!
>But nooooo muh female gooners. I can't believe this term is actually being used for FEMALE TEENAGERS whose worst crime was being publicly attracted to an attractive character. First time I found out about that term being stripped of its original meaning was when I stumbled upon this video.
Gooner used to mean a scrote who spends the entire day and the entire week masturbating non-stop while watching puke-inducing amounts of explicit, real pornography. An extreme form of porn addiction and chronic masturbation seen
only in males. How the fuck did scrotes manage to make it mean "girl who wants to fuck random bishie"?
No. 2116996
>>2116987The recent "hag" trend made me realize just how teenage waifus are so far normalized that female characters in their early to mid 20's are considered "older women" and "mature". It's damn near treated as a fetish if you prefer women closer to your age as an adult, characters in their early 30's might just as well be grandmas.
>I can't believe this term is actually being used for FEMALE TEENAGERS whose worst crime was being publicly attracted to an attractive character. First time I found out about that term being stripped of its original meaning was when I stumbled upon this video.Reminds me of the tweet I saw earlier that in all seriousness claimed that teenage fujos are just as bad as incels which almost made me reply asking how many fujos have driven a car into a crowd because a man didn't fuck them. The double standards are baffling.
No. 2117013
>>2116937>non poc people shouldn't make fanart of poc charactersI will draw what I want thank you
>that moid from chainsawman shouldn't be used in bl doujinsThe author is a lolifag and into femdom and the problem here is bl?
>if you genderbend a female character without titscars you are twanspbobic! No. 2118636
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>>2107662I don't get why they bother. It's a Chinese company and yeah do this shit. It's just something they have to accept rather than getting upset
No. 2118653
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>>2118645speaking of damian, his discourse on skin color is so fucking bizarre to witness. It's as if wokies have unironically accepted a 'one drop rule,' where even if you have the slightest non-white ancestry, you are portrayed as the darkest shade of brown possible. It seems like every depiction I've seen of him borders on being racist propaganda, anjd they get so mad when you show them actual half arab people who usually either look white or very light-skinned middle eastern people
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>>2118653It reminds me of how wokies who live countries without any gypsies get upset over the lack of "roma representation." The fact is overwhelmingly, most gypsies are mixed in their home countries and usually come from the balkans or southern and eastern europe, but they don't even mention those actors, they always cast actors from India
No. 2118714
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>>2118700mot really, but the industry is stuck in a feedback loop, this is because the vast majority of journalists are usually progressives, so they will praise whatever "queer" series comes out and it might even win awards. but no one actually reads them, so the series gets cancelled.
here's an example, the einsier awards are basically the highest recognition for western comics. It used to actually mean something once, with most of the winners being genuinely good indie comics or unique elseworld tales. but now the stories that get nominated and win are usually two types: either self-indulgent autobiographical comics about the creators lives and their never-ending "traumas" or pretentious "queer coming of age stories"
No. 2119342
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How do you make friends in fandom spaces when you’re a terf but cursed with the degeneracy (only inflicted on males) that would make a tranny shudder in horror? I’m a fujo as well and technically a “proshipper” but I think the label is dumb but everyone in those types of places that don’t give two fucks about fiction are the most annoying people ever. It’s like you can’t even find degen fujos that don’t have brain poison from gendie nonsense or having to make their degeneracy moral (ie: muh coping with trauma) and they’re usually pickmes as well. As much as I love using IBs for the anonymity I really wish I could befriend those people because it’s the only place where you can find someone that’s both a fujo and politically incorrect. Hope this makes sense I’m phoneposting rn kek
No. 2119417
>>2119399If nonna attracts these sort of people maybe she needs to reevaluate her life choices. Not implying she's a shotafag, but how can one be a
terf but wank it to shota abuse smut? or surround themselves with women who fetishtize male violence against women and children as a form of therapy.
No. 2119439
>>2119355If you actually read it, you’d see that I don’t identify with the label and think discourse in general is stupid
>>2119393All but shota
>>2119414Thank you for the advice
>>2119417Once again, read what I said. One of the reasons why I refuse to engage with “proshippers” is because they’re usually into stuff that features sexual exploitation of women and even worse, justify it because Muh coping mechanism. Which in hindsight wouldn’t make me a proshipper since they’re pro everything goes in fiction and I find stuff that features women being raped or abused to be morally reprehensible, so idk what I am
No. 2119464
>>2119417>how can one be a terf but wank it to shota abuse smutI can see why liking traps or female abuse is contradictory with being a
terf but I don't see the problem with shota? Also what's the difference between liking shota and a 16 year old anime boy, both are children.
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I'm not against shipping, but posts like this essentially confess that you've never had a significant friendship with anyone in your entire life
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>>2119535same goes with every "horny/kink" post in fandom, they make it so fucking obvious that they're virgins. we were just talking about this in that french incest degen thread, about how far removed these kink-obsessed online sex pests tend to be. they become so obsessed with their fetishes because no one wants to fuck them, since they can't have normal sex with regular people and they resort too nline roleplay sex with other degens just or when it is irl, it's with some fat greasy social reject
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>>2119560>look up who made that "goth dommy mommy" post>it's a trannyi'm almost scared, that i could tell right away
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The absolute state of fandom.
No. 2122624
>>2122483Kek. You have no idea how much I love this, nona. It also highlights something that irritates me about fandoms. These retarded teens claim to be concerned with identity politics, which isn’t evil in and of itself (just a misguided attempt at trying to be a ‘good person’) but it’s like they can’t even follow the rules which they themselves set out. ‘Boo we hate skinny, white men!’ And all they ever do is watch shows and play games with skinny white and Asian men. If you’re going to be a hypocrite, at least own it. I know that I personally prefer garden variety husbandos, and I’m not afraid to admit it. But when someone calls out their lies, they try and headcanon their way out of it.
> ‘Nuuuu this isn’t white boy yaoi, it’s T4T butch yuri!!!’ Holy retard.
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>>21226305 out of 11 non-Asians in this image alone. A lot of anime characters are ‘ethnically’ white (whatever that means) but are just drawn to look Asian if the media originates in Japan/China/Korea.
No. 2122670
>>2122661The books usually tell you.
Though, I don't see why anybody would anime take race seriously when it comes to shit like rep. Just read the damn story ffs.
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>>2122664If they’re drawn with blue eyes, blonde hair and a big nose then yes
But more often they just look exactly the same as a Japanese character.
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as someone from the thirdworld, I just don't understand other people from similar backgrounds who are so deeply into either pro-shipping or whatever bs, like picrel is a personal cow of mine, who went through a six-day blackout. I know what that's like, the boredom, the heat and the fear for one's safety. Yet, the moment she's back online, the first thing she does is start reposting porn of miles morales or gwen stacy getting raped by adult men. I just don't get it, like after going through a long blackout, I stop focusing on petty online drama and kinks, and instead I become very grateful for what I have and feel a desire to help others
No. 2123491
>>2123487My bad, though it fits either way.
It's less painful/annoying to look at porn and complain about entertainment than it is to look at the world around you.
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Another year, another Ao3 data spread for yuri fans to bitch about. What even is the mentality here? No straight fujoshi is ever going to write yuri fanfiction. If you biologically do not want to fuck women, you’re not going to write romance and porn about women kissing women. I also hate this retarded perception that female sexuality is any more ‘’’fluid’’’ than male sexuality is. No one would dare ask a straight moid to write even the fluffiest oneshot if the ship included two men. So apply the same logic to female writers, and stop whining all the time. It’s pathetic. Write it yourself, or stop demanding that the ‘imaginary mass of Ao3 authors’ (nameless fujoshis who actually grind to write yaoi instead of complaining 24/7) do it for you.
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>>2123538On the up and up, I will say that the lack of yuri does cheer me somewhat. On one hand, I feel bad for the himejoshis who actually mind their business and work hard to create femslash fan works. But on the other, the statistics don’t lie: this chart exposes all of the performative ‘Yuri! Yuri! T4T! Girldick! Mommy! Yuri! Strap!’ bullcrap I’ve been forced to endure over the past two years completely out of the water. What a beautiful exposé. None of these bihet women who claim to ‘adore’ female ships are contributing a single thing in actuality, and the yurifags TIMs are going haywire over the lack of AGP-insert material. I love sipping troon tears. Bravo!
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>>2122652I didn't know validate had actual fans. I swear I've never seen it mentioned outside of this website
>>2123538They realized the guilt tripping wasn't working so the next best course of action was to throw insults. I don't even know if the people complaining about this actually care about f/f fanfiction and the people that do write it or if they just care about stats.
No. 2123717
>>2123538>What even is the mentality here? No straight fujoshi is ever going to write yuri fanfiction. Except some of them do write it. You have no idea how annoying it is to read an amazing f/f fic, check out the rest of the author's fic and then find out it's all m/m. Very disappointing.
And who tf is writing all the het.
third, who tf cares what moids do at spacebattles or whatever? Nobody.
Lastly, who tf are Marlene Mckinnon and Dorcas Meadows and how are they second highest f/f pair.
But seriously, idc, you just annoyed me. And 9 out of 10 fujo's write the worst f/f or try to pretend that Harry/Draco sexed swapped should count as f/f.
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>>2123717> B-b-but seriously idc you a-a-annoy me—Ok, newfag.
> I want more yuri in general but it’s annoying to see that a fujo author has written it!!!So you want to have your cake and eat it then, retard? Considering all the moralfagging and complaining yuri fans do, you should learn to suck it up and be grateful when a fujo decides to cave and write you some out of the kindness of her heart. She is under no obligation whatsoever to do so, especially when no yuri author would ever do the same for her.
> Who is writing all this het???My wonderful, talented yumejoshi sistren. Take their name out of your mouth.
> Who cares what moids do?Congratulations, that’s exactly the point I was making. No one does. No one ever tries to psyop waifucoomers into drawing anything but big breasts and ass. It’s only fujoshis that are constantly subject to passive aggression from all sides: from straight moids being repulsed at women liking anything except their weird misogynist porn, from TIMs being repulsed at women liking anything except fuelling their weird AGP fetish, and from radfem himejoshis dishing out high-school levels of cattiness, because god forbid a woman doesn’t like making out with the same gender. God forbid. Now get the fuck out.
(infighting) No. 2123791
>>2123771>lol, which yuri fan killed your dog? It's annoying when they write bad f/f. It's great when they write great f/f. It's not disappointing because a fujo wrote f/f, it's a disappointing because there is no more f/f from that writer. Anyone who writes great f/f is a wonderful thing. I would never hate on that. That you are so steeped in hating that that's how you interpreted it is just sad.
>especially when no yuri author would ever do the same for her. lol, why are acting this, like, a fucking gang war, and there is no one would dare cross over to the other side upon pain to death.
>talented yumejoshi sistrenNobody writing Draco/Hermione is a yumejoshi. You realize AO3 wasn't started by fans coming out of anime right. you lot just showed up and try to act like it.
>Now get the fuck out.If you're going to keep raging like this, I'm going to keep poking you.
No. 2123800
>>2123538>No one would dare ask a straight moid to write even the fluffiest oneshot if the ship included two men.To be fair a lot of people tried convincing some male authors to write some characters as gay, like steve and bucky. I saw women genuinely upset when stucky didn't happened and steve kissed some girl in civil war kek. All that said, I agree with you, but the issue is that women cave in and give these people what they want, but surprise surprise, it's never enough. They need to ignore these idiots and move on.
>>2123717>>2123630>gets what they want>it's not in the quantity they want>waaah so disappointing waaahThat's why they should never cave in. Entitled little kids.
No. 2123824
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>>2123791>It's not disappointing because a fujo wrote f/f, it's a disappointing because there is no more f/f from that writer. Holy kek, you have a biblical level of greed. Do you just expect 10,000 word fanfictions to fall out of the sky and land in your lap? No? Then stop acting special.
>I would never hate on that.No one gives a fuck about whether you ‘hate on’ fictional female ships. I’m condemning the fact that you’re ’hating on’ real female authors for writing more of what they personally like, if yaoi is what they prefer.
>why are acting this, like, a fucking gang warYou’re the fool going schizo over women who write for more than one category of ship. Stop drawing lines in the sand and I’ll stop calling out your (and yurifags’ general) retarded bullshit.