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No. 1624284
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I hear a lot of artists migrating to reddit(as it has a larger userbase then Tumblr), I wonder how that will play out?
No. 1624349
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>draw something
>apply color
>looks like shit
>apply gradation map
>suddenly looks really good
how do i get good at coloring nonnies? I feel its whats holding my art back, i dont want to relly eternally on gradation maps
No. 1624437
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How do I get more commissioners and promote my drawings? I know that to be seen you need to spam like and follow to random art accounts but I'm an antisocial sperg and I don't really want followers, I want people commissioning me.
I used to get a bunch of clients when I posted on commission subreddits and tumblr but now I don't seem to attract people. Is there any good subreddit or something?
No. 1624508
>>1624349You need to train your eye to understand why you think it looks bad. Too saturated? Too muddy? Not concordant enough? The you try to fix it based on your feeling.
Do you try to implement colour schemes in your pieces nonna? Personally when I colour I try make the colours as complimentary as possible in hue while still being perceivable as the colour I want them to be. This requires a lot of trial and flicking between different colour alternatives, but I think it works alright, although I kinda use it as a crutch, but you should try with other types of colour schemes too.
Do you keep your canvas white while colouring? It's better to change your canvas colour before colouring into the colour you want it to be at the end or as a mid grey so your eye can compare the colours you actually want with each other instead of with the huge void of unnaturally bright white behind them. The other option to this is to pick a base tone and colouring the entire character before colouring the individual parts.
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What did she think was going to happen when she posted a supposed 15yr old with tits and tongue out?
No. 1624612
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>>1624594Kek went to check the artists age and what the fuck am I looking at? Why is she 20 and doing this
No. 1624628
>>1624612What is it with artists who do clearly stylized works going "normalize normal human bodies" when their works show stylized and not at all realistic bodies?
if not for the caption this would just be accused of being run of the mill coomer art.
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>>1624628No idea. But I remember her getting on my timeline because this tweet blew up, second image is someone responding with "Gross" after she tells them the spots are warts. She has a point about even small things getting looked down upon, but this feels like that cliche trope with a conventionally attractive character having one small facial scar and being really insecure about it. Also ironic for her to qrt this because all her characters are obviously shaped to be attractive, if she had made a genderbend of Miguel I doubt it would've looked much different from Kamii's.
No. 1624743
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I love art with lots of dynamic lines and inks and try to make pieces like these myself, but I always start to struggle and obsess over every line from the start and lose focus/get frustrated. Meanwhile even the smoothest lineart out there has natural flaws that gives them life, but I can't seem to overcome the initial imperfections and barely ever finish a piece as a result. Any lineart-focused artists who also struggle with this?
No. 1624753
>>1624678Sageblog but my hormones did a big mess with me when I was 14, but not to the point to look like a Bratz doll or the way that artist draw girls like.
I bet she's even excusing herself saying "they're teens" to avoid coomer comments or being seen like a commer artist.
>>1624743I focus a lot in my lineart, specially traditionally, but the most cliche thing I can tell you is taking your time with the inking and inking value. Video related told me my problem as well: I try to rush so hard in finish a lineart and it ends being so horrible I have to retouch them. Take your time in the lines, rest if needed and if you feel you lose focus, focus on something else or leave the work by aside. Your linework will thank you for it.
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>have a clear idea of how i want to draw in my mind
>i am decades away from reaching that level
how do nonnies cope with this feeling? I really dont enjoy anything i draw, i just see it as small steps towards a goal that i might never ever reach
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>>1624859
>15yr
why is this person on nsfw accounts and writing "callout" posts on them, with no one saying shit? this shit is inappropriate. i honestly hate both the antishippers/proship "communities". just a bunch of creeps and their victims slapfighting
No. 1624877
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Homunculus100 deleted all her twt accounts following a callout made by a teenager lmao
No. 1624888
>>1624877I'm seeing some posts saying she was suspended. either way
>making her delete/spam reporting>poop-touching/cowtippingWhat's the point of this? Did homunculus ever actually harass or harm anybody, or did this woman just (allegedly) chop off her own leg and draw fetish art? The internet is full of deranged people, that's literally how it's supposed to be. No one actually wants whatever boring Genshin Impact softboi nonbinary slopspace these people are trying to create. Wish they'd learn to stop putting every autistic person who draws on blast like they're "busting" evildoers, and just discuss things in their group chats. Unless they're actually malicious, you're supposed to quietly block them if they disturb you, or have a laugh if they entertain you.
No. 1624903
>>1624869>They/ItI don’t know much about this amputee person besides these threads but if she has BIID like anons theorize, shouldn’t these trannies be accepting? It’s the same thing as trannies, people who believe they have wrong body parts. Why is it okay for someone to want to remove their healthy breasts or genitalia, but not okay for someone to want to remove a healthy arm or leg? Troons themselves fetishize their surgeries all the time and will groom each other into getting their healthy bodies permanently changed.
>>1624894Fetish freaks should just post somewhere besides Twitter, I wish they’d go back to their forums and shit but they are too attention seeking.
No. 1624943
>>1624925What the fuck. Do we have proof that there was actually amputation and that the most recent selfie wasn't shooped?
>>1624916Did the old blogs document this? I only saw the one selfie that didn't show legs. Now I'm thinking this may be horrorcow territory because….
No. 1624954
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Reposted selfie with both legs. Just wanted to double check this was the same person. These are both her (now deleted) archived blogs.
Main : web.archive.org/web/20210108134653/
https://sol--lux.tumblr.com/Personal: web.archive.org/web/20160612073545/
http://kellan-ebooks.tumblr.com/aboutme No. 1624991
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>>1624903You're actually right and there seems to be a lot of support for this person past the normies going "lol wtf did I just read"
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>>1624959That's the only selfie I could find while lurking. Shes posted pictures of herself with several bags of dry ice and tools from home depot but those seem to be lost.
It seems to have been the leg she had grafted from phalloplasty
No. 1625005
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nonnies, I can't bear to pick up my pen because I fucking despise my own art. Whenever I even think about drawing I just think "eh, it'll be ugly anyway" and put a stopper in it
and whenever i see someone be like "i love to draw!" i only think, "shit i wish that were me"
can't get inspired, since looking at my favourite godly eastern artists makes me more depressed that i'll never reach that level
i don't value technical/rendering skill over style, but every time i draw, i forgo stylist choices in favour of perfection because i feel like the only way to 'prove' i'm a 'good' artist is to be perfect, even though i know that isn't the slightest bit true
feels like i'm just slugging around in the dark. i hoard a million classes but the information just goes through me
No. 1625015
>>1624906>Quoting elon muskGo back
>>1624888This is lolcow. If you cut off your own leg due to coomerisms, you deserve to be made fun of. This is not one of those "making fun of le autistic women" things
No. 1625020
>>1625015Samefagging, but it's even more insane how people like the pic in
>>1624991 are defending her. It's always the people with "proud freak" in their bio that will jump to defend anyone like this. You could call someone out for a crime but if you mention the words "they draw pedoshit" suddenly a thousand proship clones spawn in the quotes to defend them.
>>1625019Then what was your point? You're complaining about putting people on blast on a website dedicated to lolcows.
No. 1625038
>>1625026I hate that being "weird" has become an offense to get called out over. That 15 year old should have actually left the artist alone instead of snooping through the account and sharing with all their, probably also minor, followers. You can react with "ew they're a freak" and block and move on,
>>1625028 is right
No. 1625044
>>1625028sure, cowtipping is bad and against the rules, but it wasn't like this information wasn't public to begin with
>>1625038cutting your leg off isn't just weird, they are a genuine freak who needs mental help. there's nothing wrong with calling out degenerates like that online, especially if you're just making a post to let people know about the people behind the accounts you're retweeting from
No. 1625066
>>1625044why do people jump out into conclussions? we dont know if she cut her legs off, for all we know she had an illness and coped with vent/gore art. It's the fucking furry amputee shit again, people started spreading he cut his hands off because of a fetish but in reality he had very heavy arthritis and sadly fell asleep with his hands on ice. Also, it's twitter, if you check the pages of the people calling homunculos out you will see tranny flags and rts of characters with masectomy scars. But i guess cutting your legs for a fetish=bad, gross weirdo get cancelled but cutting your tits for a fetish=good, omg so
valid.
No. 1625072
>>1625026>Even if it's on twitter, the normal reaction to this would be "ew they're a freak" not "leave them alone"You can do both, idiot. You can think someone is a freak
and leave them alone. If they're not causing any direct harm to the people around them and are just minding their own business then who gives a fuck about what degeneracy they practice. Just observe the subject in silence and don't engage with them. Cowtipping is retarded and banned for a reason, if you feel like someone is doing something illegal then you should report them to the police or the very least the twitter staff, not go be a sperg in their mentions.
No. 1625076
>>1624349In addition to theory try to study paintings you like the colors of, color theory can only give you a basic framework, but you have to figure out what you like and how to get there for yourself.
Some exercises that have helped me:
Go through your favorite paintings and look at the colors and how they relate. Whats used for the light side what's used for the dark side? How strong is the hue shift? Is there a clear primary color?
Try to create an abstract copy of the painting without color picking, just copying the colors by eye. Where did you go wrong doing this?
Make your own painting using the same colors as your abstract copy. Did you capture the same vibe?
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Trannys in my art circle are starting to suspect that I'm a TERF nonas. Any suggestions for not too cringe tranny adjacent art I can post for a few weeks to get some heat off me? I don't want to do shit like transmasc Gwen Stacy. Genderbent or GNC Pav, perhaps?
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how the fuck do i tackle figure drawing nonnies? i have tried several times, watched hampton, but it still doesnt click with me. It doesnt help that in every video demostration they go with very easy poses, but everytime i try to do figure drawing sessions they NEVER have easy poses. I tried hampton's approach and i dont understand how to employ it in poses that arent highly dynamic or where the models arent contorting like slugs.
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>>1625168that's the point, i have been doing it for a while and i feel no improvement, i cannot understand it
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>>1625160I don't think this info is from a quick glance. And that kid is getting bullied off twitter now kek it's always better to just mind your own business or talk to friends about this kind of stuff if you need to "warn" them so badly. Twitter even has that circles option to keep things more private. Anything will randomly blow up on that site and users should be aware of it by now
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>>1625026This is why we never get any good cows anymore
No. 1625223
>>1625066i get you're trying to defend a potential lost cow but nobody falls asleep touching dry ice nona
that furry guy was doing it for the fetish 100%
No. 1625282
>>1625072cowtipping is bad, but this one was inevitable because it's not like their account is private. they're pretty public about their fetishes.
>>1625129enlighten me on what you mean then. pleaae use 5 words max or my twitterbrain will combust
nonnie>>1625066read through the last thread, there was evidence posted a long while ago.
No. 1625323
>>1625282Nta but this
>>>/ot/1577127 isn't really evidence of anything. The longer I look at it the less coomerish it feels and for all you know that leg could've had issues that just weren't included in artworks. And even if there weren't any, what does it matter to you? I also think it's weird behaviour and would've blocked if I ever saw that shit on twitter but does your life improve that much when some random artist deletes their account? Are your hands shaking a little less now during your daily 16 hours of scrolling?
No. 1625355
>>1625348Really convenient for someone with an amputee fetish to suddenly get a health problem that only effects their lower leg. Unless they're some sort of diabetic, I find it hard to believe this is vent or cope art, especially if it's been something they've been obsessed about for years. If you draw yourself daydreaming about chopping your leg off, and then in the hospital bed with your doctor, thankful they were able to give you this procedure that no one else is willing to give you because of your BIID, then you can't be upset if people think you cut your leg off for kink purposes. The way you represent yourself and your life experiences online will change how people think about you.
>it's just not that strange to me after all the freak shit I've seen onlineIf cutting your own leg off because it gets you wet isn't freak shit to you, then I'd love to hear what is. You have a good heart and I'm sure you're not defending them for the wrong reasons, but at least read up on the last threads because you try and say they didn't do anything.
No. 1625387
>>1625372>mormon is when you hate body mutilation and pedoshitAre you a tranny?
>>1624743Absolutely. I would say try different brushes to see what one best fits your art style. Sometimes the sketchy style can look good if you're using the right brush, even if it's not your intention. Also turning up your stabilizer helps too.
No. 1625401
>>1625398All the other trannies you stan and insist are totes
valid are also fujo/age gap shippers chopping off their healthy tits and other appendages.
No. 1625402
>>1625371>>1625368Minors on twitter want to talk shit about others so badly and that's why they need their own kind of gossip page. Putting it all on the same social media where the original artist can see is stupid as hell, if anything the artist will notice and feel bad and then delete. Plus the callouts require a moral reasoning that will always make it a more difficult situation for the accused. They are all itching to bully someone, just saying you dislike something is never enough though, it has to be justified or you will look like the bad guy. But then that kid got bullied in turn and left the site and none of this would have happened if it had stayed contained to some other corner of the internet where no one could have tied it back to anyone.
>>1625394>drawingIt's a drawing anon. That can be evidence of a desire but not proof of anything actually happening and it also seems mentally ill but not sexual. Calm down now.
No. 1625437
>>1625396>>1625401What are you talking about? Fujos and age gap shippers are not the only twitter users in the world schizo.
>>1625422This. I think she is gay because her girlfriend was the smaller character she would always draw, who then also became a tif.
>>1625431iirc she made a reference to using skulls to proportionately draw characters. Skull talk is usually done by those racist /pol/ scrotes, but I don't think she meant any harm by it. Of course people thought she did and got mad, but who knows if that's what really drew her away. She's an eastern artist so it could've been something else entirely that we don't know
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with homuculus deleting I can now finally understand there has been no milk in art thread for a decade thanks to teenagers lurking and cowtiping us all, any nona with me on this?
No. 1625501
>>1625500We don't even know if someone cowtipped, and if they did then fuck them but we can't go back in time and stop it from happening. There is no projection, there is no "truth" it's all just opinions.
Move the fuck on.
No. 1625506
>>1625472Look nonna I'm
>>1625370 and what I meant by that is that you're perhaps taking the internet too seriously, saying that the internet is supposed to be full of freaks was pretty weird. It is not normal to be a freak and the internet was not made for them.
But that doesn't mean I'm a Twitterfag who thinks homunculus100 must be punished for having a nightmarish self-harm fetish, nor would I ever interact with her or cowtip. Ironically you are the one with black-and-white thinking, since you automatically assume so many things about me and the other anon just for slightly disagreeing with you on one thing. Clearly I don't support trannies, and instead see the obvious hypocrisy in how they think homunculus is a terrible person for wanting to chop her leg off but think doing the same to breasts is perfectly fine, and I'm sure the other anon feels the same way.
I also enjoy (in a morbidly curious way) reading about her in this thread just like you.
No. 1625518
>>1625490Are you the same
nonnie as this one??
>>1625129Okay, I don't know what's your problem because I've seen you only argued in circles with other anons.
We're just frustrated at losing another cow… for now the only conclusion we have is some anon must've cowtipped and made it public on twitter. This is not directed at you. A lot of us do rely on twitter to promote commissions despite hating the site.
Take your meds if you continue to derail anon.
No. 1625530
>>1625528There's a difference between calling out people for stupid shit like yaoi art and calling someone out for being a self-mutilating pedo. Obviously there's people who don't deserve to be dogpiled and harassed, but I'm not afraid of looking the other way if someone calls out someone like humonculus. If you draw art like that, as
>>1624894 said, you gotta realize the general public does not think that art is normal.
No. 1625535
>>1625521>And you can't pretend that anyone making callouts cares about the mental wellbeing of the person they are talking about or even wants the internet to be better.I don't even know what you're talking about kek. Again you're just assuming stuff. Legit I'm not even arguing about any of that. I probably agree with you, but you think just because I said freaks aren't normal (they objectively aren't, that's why they're freaks, people with amputation fetishes are not normal, and that's why we're so fascinated by homunculus100) I must be one of them Twitterfags living rent free in your head.
Also the internet was not made for freaks, they just populated the internet because they had nowhere else to go like you said. It doesn't mean we should all be ok with them or pretend they're normal (but no, I'm not going to make callout posts or report freaks for being freaks either. I hope you don't ignore this part and keep implying I support twitterfag behavior, because I clearly don't).
No. 1625547
>>1624991AYRT, I love how that person is almost realizing that supporting transgenderism is just a trend and people only do it to look good. So so close. Also kek damn I realize I said “freak” first itt and I am sorry that you’ve all had to read it 29 more times from other anons. I accidentally spreaded Twitterfag lingo like an std.
>>1625437I understand why so many Eastern artists just delete their account when they get negative attention from retards but it still makes me a little sad. What even happens after that, do they ever just quietly open up new accounts?
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>>1625547Sometimes they just move on. I'm black myself, but I think people call these artists out and dogpile them just to be rude rather than give them actual advice. A while back there was this artist (Fieroo) that got harassed on twitter for this picture, and for miles being too light. I agree he looked pretty light, but it's also because of the way blue light reflects on dark skin. The artist moved on though and improved their way of drawing people with darker skin. So there's some artists that take the criticsm (or harassment in some cases) and continue with their art, but I know others just vanish, which is pretty depressing.
No. 1625583
>>1625565Proof
>>1625566True but that doesn’t read as black skin at all to me because the base color looks pale. I thought it was some Kpop/generic asian pretty boy before I read the text. I think for a lot of artists they pick one thing they love and then find it hard to deviate. They then have to worry about being harassed if they try to learn in a public setting. And then you get the “not black enough/too black” issues too. No wonder most women stick to K-pop now a days. I hate Kpop but I can understand the appeal since America has no boy bands anymore.
No. 1625591
>>1625566This kind of thing sucks because sometimes eastern artists really don't know how to depict dark-skinned people, and end up making them just slightly darker than their usual pale characters. For many of them, they really are too used to making their characters as pale as possible and emphasizing it, a lot of gorgeous eastern art is focused on emphasizing porcelain-like skin. But western Twitter "artists" blow it out of proportion and harass these artists for that mistake (even though there were no bad intentions on the artist's part, they just need more practice), never letting them live it down, and then many people on the opposite side of the argument end up dismissing perfectly
valid criticism as SJW nonsense.
For the record, I've seen plenty of Japanese artists who can draw characters of different skin shades. So it's not all of them who have issues coloring dark skin (it seems to be mostly those whose regular art emphasizes paleness), and sometimes it really is the lighting, or fancy editing and color effects that lower contrast in the whole picture, that make it
look like the artist used the wrong shade. In your pic it's obvious (imo) that the character is supposed to be black but he's still lighter than in canon, A bit of practice and study would fix it.
No. 1625595
>>1625589If you claim the internet is ran by freaks and can't even name 1, then I don't think you know what you're arguing.
>>1625591Study would most definetely fix it. There are eastern artists who can beautifully draw dark skins, such as CreamyGhost on Twitter, or even Pigeon86 for that matter. But there are also many who paint dark skin as lighter than it is or in that sort of grey tone. I applaud them for at least trying to expand their reaches though, even if it isn't exactly accurate to canon. Their amazing rendering is worth looking over the skin color issue to me.
No. 1625632
>>1625628The point is that three posts is not the "whole thread", and saying "Stop being dramatic" isn't name-calling, calm down.
>just name calling like an immature teenager.The irony, kek
No. 1625654
>>1625645Absolute schizo mode. Not sure why you targeted me, but get help. Feel free to reply again, I know you're chomping at the bit.
Anyway, as long as it's ontopic (which homunculus obviously is), we can discuss art cows and their drama as we want.
No. 1625682
>>1625005Everyone has ugly art phases,
nonny,it's fine.Use this time to mess with experimental techniques, mediums, brushes, whatever and focus more on playing rather than creating a visually appealing masterpiece. I guarantee that those amazing artists you like have folders of unfinished art files that will never see the light of day because their vision just couldn't translate well to canvas. It's normal and happens to everyone! You'll be okay and make good art, don't worry
No. 1625713
>>1625707This is very clearly an infight,
nonny.
No. 1625728
>>1625402Callout posts are almost always moral based.
ngl, unless there is definitive proof it was cancer or purely for a fetish we won't know based on their art. They could be someone with a fetish, someone suffering from a legitimate MI, or someone who lost their leg and has a sense of humor or sexualizes themselves over it.
Either way, whether it was from cancer or because they just wanted to have it chopped off, it ain't got shit to do with anyone else. Yeah they can be considered weird, a freak, etc. but you can also just… leave people alone. I thought their art was weird, so the solution? I just didn't follow them. I didn't have to make up things or spread rumors based on speculation about their art and what it means. I don't live in their head and don't intend to so I don't try to.
If a grown ass adult decides they want to have their leg removed just because so it be. It has no impact on anyone other than them and they aren't trying to hurt other people. So many people have this weirdly parasocial nature with complete strangers they aren't even fans of to the point they have to witch-hunt over weird art.
Maybe its because i'm becoming a boomer but I cannot imagine having the energy to care what someone does with their own body or what kind of art they make unless they're trying to or otherwise causing direct harm to other people.
No. 1625752
>>1625749Homie went into deep detail as Kellmatsu and bragged about how the phallo needed a circumcision before sex with Stinky could be possible.
A skin graft got taken from the left arm to use for the phallo, and then skin from the left thigh was grafted to the arm to cover that up.
No. 1625787
>>1625749The bottom surgery tweets were maybe 2016, it's been so long but the description of the patch jobs with the skin is still fresh in mind.
Homie talked about it to Nhaingen and others, and the more recent art of scars referenced both the phallo and the thigh/arm skin patches.
No. 1625815
>>1625796Anon the above was replying too but basically this.
You can talk shit on lolcow, it isn't "canceling" anyone but the call out posts and canceling someone based on weirdly parasocial relationships goes beyond just talking shit about a weirdo on a niche gossip forum.
No. 1625884
>>1625862Don't act like you can go on twitter and call someone out for being trans. You know how that would go down. You're just strawmanning at this point because you probably like pedoshit too
>>1625868He's afro-latino
>>1625875All you guys know how to do is sperge about these supposed "twitterfags" because your brain can't fathom the fact that people have different opinions on art than you. You're not going to change anyone's mind.
No. 1625885
>>1625875Exactly. I'm sick of these retards trying to sanitize everything that makes them feel the least bit uncomfy. The worst part is them insisting on pushing themselves in places they
know they'll be uncomfy (because the spaces they create for themselves are boring and stagnant), then demanding things change to make them comfy again instead of just leaving.
No. 1625894
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>>1625566Wow, if you showed this picture to me with no context, I honestly would not have been able to guess that it's supposed to be Miles Morales. I've never seen the movies, is that even his hairstyle at any point?
>it's also because of the way blue light reflects on dark skinImo if anything blue light makes people with dark skin look darker. And it doesn't look like he's fully in blue light either, just the highlights
No. 1625911
>>1625875Nonna the internet was not made for autists to sperg about Barney or furries. It was created by computer scientists as a communications tool, first for military purposes, and then for research, before reaching a wider audience. The fact that a lot of weird people inhabited it from its early days does not mean it was literally made with them in mind, or that it was every meant to be exclusive to them. The computer scientists who made the internet did not think "we'll create a new form of communication that consists of a network between computers all over the world so autistic manchildren can spend all day sharing their thoughts on children's cartoons, and regular people will be forbidden from using it unless they prove they have edgy fetishes". No, it just so happens that some of the early internet users had very peculiar interests (such as being furfags which is what I consider being a freak, not just liking tabletop games or being into nerdy hobbies in general. When I say freak, I'm referring to people with fetishes) in addition to being computer geeks, but they're just one of the many kinds of people that used the internet back then. Businesses and educational institutions were also early internet adopters.
Maybe the reason you're so obsessed with nitpicking that completely irrelevant part of one post is because you think it's an attack on internet
culture (a completely different thing from what was meant), which you then interpret as an attack against you, leading you to believe that whoever thinks the internet was not originally made for fetishists is a twitterfag because you cannot tell the difference between underground internet culture and the internet itself, or for simply thinking communities built around extreme fetishes, such as amputation, gore, or babyfur shit, are unhealthy and not normal. You saying "the internet is for freaks" is like saying "the internet is for porn", just because a lot of it exists on the internet doesn't mean it's only for that, or that the internet was even created for it in the first place. It's your own fault for misinterpreting that comment as a personal attack on your precious, edgy imageboard culture (of which I've been a part of for more than a decade so yeah, I know what I'm talking about). Just saying, your hate is misdirected and there was no need to derail so much just to sperg about the internet being srs bsns.
Again, I cannot stress enough that having this opinion does not mean I have a Twitter account that I use to start "cancellation crusades" against TIFs I merely think are kinda fucked up and draw amputee incest porn. homunculus100 is by definition a freak, but she's not a criminal so I'm not going to make a huge deal out of her. I also think other TIFs are freaks for glamourizing unnecessary mastectomies and mental illness, but they usually don't get off to it unlike this artist. When it comes to interesting fucked up artists such as the one being discussed, I only look at the screenshots and read the details in these threads and it also pisses me off that she has been scared off Twitter by a callout post because information on her true identity and the state of her leg are already hard to find as it is and I'm curious about whether she's actually an amputee or not. You happy now
nonny?
(autism) No. 1625918
>>1625913You got so butthurt about the word "freak" being used that you couldn't stop seething about a post made hours ago and I came back just to set the record straight. But of course when I correct your retarded ass, you have no argument other than "ur a zoomer twitterfag snowflake and u cry when you see cartoon porn, stop censoring meeeee".
At this point I'm starting to think you're an /ic/ scrote. Who the fuck else on this site would defend amputation fetish porn to this extent? Just admit you see yourself as a freak and are sensitive to criticism of your edgy fetishes.
(infighting) No. 1625923
File: 1688622675678.jpeg (357.58 KB, 1125x2044, IMG_4046.jpeg)
>Makes Threads to replace Twitter
>Has no NSFW policy unlike Twitter
>Assumes that the overseas artist will read your rules
Zuckerberg…
No. 1625925
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>>1625918You are just grasping at straws. I could write you a whole paragraph about how the early internet was freaky as shit and give you more examples, but you will just go back to your wikipedia article to point out how it was created for military purposes and think you got a ''gotcha''. The internet has always been for nerds and freaks, which is why for so long it was considered dangerous, and the nerdy kid stereotype in the 90s and 2000s was of the kid with glasses that spent too much time on the computer. Then phonefags invaded it, and now you are the freak if you arent connected to the internet 24/7. The fact that you think I defend amputee porn when it was never the point speaks about your black-and-white Twitter mentality. Literally no one was defending that, we were complaining about twitterfags ruining our fun for the sake of moralfagging.
No. 1625934
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>>1625926>You can get the uncensored version on my Patreon which is right here in the replies :)It’s only a matter of time before they get comfortable here…
No. 1625940
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>>1625934>It’s only a matter of time before they get comfortable here…it just launched and its supposed to be a twitter alternative aka it will attract twitterfags, why are you talking as if they invaded your 20 year old niche forum
No. 1626007
>>1625566that’s not how lighting works on dark skin,
nonnie.
No. 1626109
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>>1625894>>1625566I remember reading somewhere that both darker skin tones and hair with different color and or textures are more time-consuming to draw. That's why protagonists in anime and manga tend to be light-skinned men with straight black hair for a century now. This character "model" can also be presumed or localized as being Japanese, Arab, German, etc., without much issue
No. 1626129
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Idk if anyone is familiar with holyempresse but christ she annoys the everliving shit out of me. She hardly posts art anymore and instead uses her platform to on giant rants about Lore Olympus, Rachel Smythe, and whatever else pisses her off that day and gives her the urge to soapbox. She’s been steadily losing followers over it and even goes on rants over that when people bring up the fact that LO is all she ever posts about. It’s one thing to not like a webtoon but does it really require a 24 slide think piece in your story every other fucking day? It’s really unfortunate because I actually enjoy her art style but not enough to deal with the constant bitching.
No. 1626270
>>1625082I get why other nonas are judging, but if you HAVE to do something to get them off your back then do what
>>1625094 said and draw a girl and call it a boy. You can later delete the description kek
No. 1626328
>>1625566>>1625591I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, some eastern asians don't know how to draw darker skinned people. But it's fucking obvious that the character in this art is supposed to be black, and it's just a lighting fuck-up that makes him look lighter. And this is the case in 99% of the 'white-washed' art that twitter witch hunts the artist for; just the artist needing a bit more practice. It's so fucking severe, people point out the smallest of mistakes obnoxiously literally just to virtue signal. You can tell. I've seen so many bitchings in comment sections of perfectly fine arts of Miles and especially Miguel, because they're a shade too light or some shit. If you look in the qrts of accused arts, half of them aren't even
valid constructive criticism, just reeee-ing about 'whitewashing' 'shouldn't let asians draw black people' 'it's always the asian artists' etc, that literally progress into just race wars lmao. Which is ironic, because it's the same people who are massive SJWs and all about equality and anti-racism and allat. After receiving criticism, many eastern artists who don't understand english well will obviously be intimidated and scared of the massive backlash they received on western twitter, and revert to drawing the same porcelain white characters like they're used to, in fear of criticism, and this gets mocked by western twitter or used as proof as they're racist. And honestly, if I was trying to be more inclusive with my art but got nothing but shit, I wouldn't want to try again either lmao. It's so insanely difficult to please a western audience.
No. 1626362
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>>1626350i put it in greyscale in comparison to another drawing of white characters and the constrast is obvious.
No. 1626441
Has anyone successfully managed to change your art style to be completely unrecognizable then it was before? I never went to art school, but a TiF friend of mine did, and I orbited the scene. Our art ended up looking pretty similar. I'll admit, I always thought of her as a better artist than I. In highschool, she was great at realism, she still probably is but doesn't seem to apply herself to it and instead just draws the same stylized stuff that I don't want my art to fall into. I'm trying better to retrain in my fundamentals, not really worried about producing finished work, just practicing and getting better, but I still feel like I can't escape my art style. I'm not friends with any of these people anymore, but I do still check up on their art once in a blue moon. I really wanna move away from what I can only describe as fandom/terminally online art and focus more on my surrealist type paintings. I do like stylized work, but I want it to be more used for doing band gigs and other jobs like that rather than being stuck in webcomic/oc hell. I don't post art online anymore, but I'm always secretly afraid my art will end up in the bad art threads.
No. 1626442
>>1626362Your other example doesn’t help. It looks like more asian pretty boys like another anon said.
>>1626353I didn’t think you were but like in the previous posts this example doesn’t read as black. This artist is used to illustrating korean men it looks like and that isn’t translating to fan art, he just looks like another korean character at first glance.
>>1626377Interesting if true. Might also explain asian Miles here lol
No. 1626444
>>1626441I don’t have a style but I’ve been improving my fundamentals so it looks better overall. I wouldn’t worry about your art being in a bad art thread
nonny. It’s better to continue what you’re doing and get away from fanart. Occasionally it’s fun but if that’s the whole portfolio you’re going to suffer.
No. 1626462
File: 1688676741549.jpg (Spoiler Image,137.61 KB, 1024x789, 1566844161655.jpg)
>>1626447There was a furry on Twitter who did the same thing. He wanted paws, so he "fell asleep" with his hands in a dry ice bucket "for arthritis".
No. 1626561
>>1626559I don’t know these other people or what Matsu is. Can I get a qrd? Homie chick is a crazy popcorn read.
>>1626546She still has one leg anon. You can call her gimpy or peg leg.
No. 1626573
>>1626561Matsu refers to the fandom for Osomatsu San, an anime about 6 brothers who people love to draw fucking.
Homie/homunculus100_ is someone who used to be into that fandom who is recently getting attention for almost assuredly self amputating, evidently self harmed enough to warrant amputation but hard to say for sure. They were friends with someone called Stinky/Todokaras in 2016ish who fucked their dog. Homie evidently cut public ties, but the dog video surfaced months before this. Homie was interacting with Stinky for nearly a year after the dogfucking was revealed. No clue on their relationship now. Homie is presently MIA.
There was a rumor Homie had cancer and that's how the leg was lost, this was disproven. According to someone who knows him on twitter, the cancer rumor came from a telegram someone found that had some guy in Spain talking about losing his leg as a child to cancer. Homie is from California and had 2 legs up until 2020ish.
The Homie/Stinky connection apparently implies they may have tried breeding at Anime Expo. There are photos of Homie there.
Would love if anyone else has any additional information, pics, sauce, etc.
No. 1626623
>>1626608Breeding each other. They fucked.
>>1626620Said disability is BIID. Theyre referring to BIID as a mental health disability.
No. 1626628
>>1625828Sorry for the late reply nonna it got buried in the infighting lol.
I ended up joining a local group of artist and hobbyists… You might be able to search for servers or on meetup? I would also recommend crafting groups as I've found many of the women in those to be pretty normal. Also once you find a couple like minded people usually they will also recommend groups to you so maybe start there? Good luck! (Older groups are also better, the group I'm in has a majority of people in their 30s)
No. 1626632
File: 1688690050098.jpg (311.92 KB, 1886x1171, paws.jpg)
>>1626558Some guy made him robo-paws but I'm not aware of any pictures of the guy wearing and using them. He has also posted some pictures of little hooks that he puts on his stumps that he put his fursuit gloves on.
Source for pic:
https://twitter.com/CALVINGINEERING/status/1229571630885531648https://twitter.com/CALVINGINEERING/status/1232184424743129090 No. 1626670
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>>1626665>>1626662NYART, and don't have screenshots for homunculus claims, but for Todokaras, there's an entire thread for it already.
>>280059They're suspected to have come back as a new user on twitter who's your typical proshipper shotacon coomer(picrel). You can also find one of the many callouts on Tumblr if you bothered to search their name up. Don't know about the connection to Homunculus claims, but wouldn't be surprised considering they're in the same fandoms and into the same things.
No. 1626672
>>1626670Samefag, linked the wrong thread, but you can find it if you type in Todokaras on google.
>>1626669Could you get a grip and realize you're responding to an almost day old post that people have already moved on from
No. 1626678
>>1626623If they have BIID it sucks people are downplaying it just to fetish art.
Cow or not I wouldn't want to live with that condition and try to figure out how to cope with it in a way that won't get twitter spergs on your ass for "fetishizing".
Regardless, all this shit with homie is why you should not "tip the cow" or "touch the cow".
No. 1626679
>>1626673I didnt read the timestamp but true, I'm done. It was just retarded.
>>1626670What happened to the caps? Not sure if you're the one making the posts, but there's several descriptions of things itt now with no photographic evidence at all, is it just retelling of a nuked thread or something….? I've seen 2 photos of this person total, half or most of this could be bullshit. The only thing corroborating so far is the art, be cool if someone could back up what's said cause most of us have no idea who these people are lol
No. 1626731
>>1626677Evidently if you DM their FMA pals you can get caps or info, FMA was one of Homies most recent fandoms so anyone from there may or may not know about the Todokara connection. But they seem to have known Homie for a few years and even had irl connections. Evidently enough so that DMing with them caused multiple people to delete their cancer claim posts. I don't have an active Twitter that won't look like a sockpuppe, so it won't be me.
>>1626662Actually a full thread to compile all evidence would be great, especially if you can get anything out of their friends.
No. 1626760
>>1626751You need to screenshot and archive, please.
>>1626679I was not the anon.
>>1626722I can't spoonfeed you everything about the drama, look them up.
>>1626722I just shared a post from the last thread, do your own research. Also admitting to following and engaging in content made by a shotacon coomer furry who can't draw is funny.
No. 1626762
>>1626293I'm looking to see how it shakes out. Twitter seems shaky at the moment but hasn't fallen yet. I feel like the general impression of Threads is that it's for normies and so far all the non-professional hobbyist illustrators I've seen with 100k to even 200k Twitter followers barely reach past even 1000 followers on Threads/Instagram, unless they've had an existing Instagram presence for years, so it's not like their followers are immediately flocking to it.
I really don't want to touch a Zuckerburg product but if it's where all the content creators go then I probably have no choice.
No. 1626772
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here you go, homie and todokaras planning to fuck, in September 2016. the screens in the todokaras thread showing her molesting the dog are July 2016. homie planning to fuck todokaras well into knowing about the dog shit.
No. 1626773
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>>1626771Let's read together anon. If you're looking for info on Homunculus, I don't have it. I only said I saw info about Todokaras.
No. 1626774
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>>1626733The art has been shared in this thread and previous but I guess nobody lurks anymore. This is what I could find since the account is deleted.
>Artist has both legs documented for many years>Artist draws several extremely personal pieces of artwork of their own sona cutting their leg off or having their leg removed, artist has extensive knowledge on how to diy chop off your leg, artist has drawn multiple amputee porn fanarts of Osomatsu characters>Artist suddenly loses leg>"But we have no idea what happened you guys are just being meanies"I can admit the proof being artwork is flimsy but like, come on. Bitch was screaming through her artwork she wants to cut her leg off and now her leg is gone. Might seem farfetched if this is your first encounter with Homie but she is fucking nuts. Ffs she's buttbuddies with Todokaras, a dogfucker who gets off on going weeks without showering and gets excited when she accrues physical grime.
No. 1626777
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>>1626775I don't even care about the proship stuff nor do I usually go the "art influences real life" route but it's really funny thinking about the uncanny coincidence that the one guy who really wishes she could cut her leg off magically had an accident where she needs her leg cut off. Lol.
No. 1626820
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some have said on their private Twitter there was actual photos and details. can't confirm or deny, so take this as you will.
No. 1626827
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i dont understand why we're using drawings as proof she sawed off her leg (or paid someone shady to do it). no one knows how it happened, theres no tangible proof of anything so id lay off making random claims
No. 1626833
>>1626777>>1626775I hate to intrude on this conversation, but I genuinely don't understand how people can see this art and think like this
>>1626805It's basically them drawing themselves committing the act, it's insane.
>>1626827>be homunculus100_>masturbate to shotacon amputees>draw yourself daydreaming about cutting your leg off>vent about no one supporting you wanting to cut your leg off>draw yourself thanking your doctor in an empty hospital room for cutting off your leg>get called out on twitter>people defend you saying you "got cancer"This doesn't make sense to me. Why are people defending this tif again?
No. 1626838
File: 1688703152342.jpg (117.33 KB, 828x833, 20230705_183548.jpg)
Ignore my retarded internet. That posted a billion times. Have this as a peace offering.
No. 1626860
>>1626854Oh, to be an anon who can only say "twitterfag" when they run out of things to say
>>1626855Honestly I would say you could make a Todokaras and Homunculus00 thread, but I'm not sure how milky they even are. They just post your regular pedoshit without much actual drama. It'd be fun to point and laugh at though.
No. 1626864
A tif cut off her own leg for attention on Twitter
LAUGH
>>1626855More than likely yes but she's been caught hiding her identity a few times in the past so she's probably learned to tighten security by now.
No. 1626915
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>>1626833>>1626832guys i wasnt defending her please get off my back, im just saying it doesnt seem very likely to me that she did a DIY job (which would probably have ended up killing her) or found some mad scientist that was willing to amputate her perfectly healthy leg. like please think about it for a moment and realize these 2 things would probably be impossible. however i dont think she magically got cancer or was the
victim of an unfortunate freak accident, she probably self-mutilated to the point that doctors had to amputate her leg. thats just my crackpot theory though
also i keep seeing people say that she's made art/posts on her old accounts about wanting her leg gone. can someone post them? im curious.
No. 1626920
File: 1688709813102.png (1.57 MB, 1500x4500, 1684036171287.png)
>>1626915this is probably true and I think what many people are assuming is the reality. in old pictures she had a massive phalloplasty scar on her arm, and it's mysteriously gone now. If she had them take a chunk of her leg to hide the arm scar to be less obviously trans, it's very likely she let the wound go septic and develop gangrene (as stated), in which case convincing a surgeon to remove it would be incredibly easy and justifiable.
also, here is a collection. this is not all of them, many dated back as early as 2019, but of course those are lost to the deactivation.
No. 1626922
>>1626915Before the alt was taken down from their bio, I scrolled through the whole thing and quickly deduced that they were transgender and like mega autistic. It would make since for the art to be a direct interpretation of BIID fantasies that they experienced, because every other post they make in earnest is overtly detailed, autistic, and super eager about obsessive interests. That said, I see no real timeline showing when the leg was lost. There was one low rest cropped photo here
>>1624954 that is attached to no account and has no timestamp. My theory is that yeah, it's BIID and after phallo, they purposely gave themselves an infection so that the leg would have to be amputated. But even with that, its incredibly hard to make the leg unsalvageable to the point it needs an amputation. They would have to go to incredibly great lengths. Kelly comes to mind, whenever I think of how she literally picked her legs all the way through to the bone and smeared them with shit and that was the only way they would amputate them.
No. 1626937
>>1626884I dont think you know what bait is
>>1626925The full-body pic looks too good to be photoshopped imo but if you see some evidence of image alteration do share
>>1626932What do you think will happen when she comes back? In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if she just abandons her account after this
No. 1626948
>>1626579I feel you. Last I checked they have dedicated channels for hetero/female posting not that it changes much.
>>1626030I really want to make lc art friends since I'm outgrowing my TRA circles but I worry I won't fit in, kek.
No. 1626961
re: homunculus, has anybody posted the drawing they made of the all-limbs-amputated person blind in one eye living in a basement with a collar chained to a cage yet? there are blankets, pillows, and children's toys on the floor they're on, but more worryingly there are several sex toys (obvious and blatant dildos and buttplugs) on a shelf behind them and there's a panel mounted to the wall with tools like hacksaws, ropes/whips, hammers and other things that indicate torture hung on it. i regrettably saw the image a couple days ago and to me, this was the most damning evidence of the amputation being a sexual fetish, and it's certainly not unheard of, i knew someone who did super fucked up furry fetish porn commissions for the cash and one of the arts was what the commissioner called a "nugget", someone with all limbs amputated.
No. 1627027
File: 1688727972556.jpg (Spoiler Image,55.78 KB, 640x640, 43 - y3ezmEU.jpg)
Spoilered for nasty leg scabs, but nonnies, haven't you all heard of Kelly ronahan? If not, she's a munchie who picked at her legs so much she went septic and eventually had to have them amputated. It's not outside the realm of possibility that homie did something to herself to make amputation necessary, whether it be via an injury or causing a severe infection. She definitely didn't cut her own leg off, she probably would've died, but self-injury is more likely than by coincidence getting cancer in the same leg she was always drawing herself chopping off.
No. 1627045
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>>1627044Before and after. Homestuck claims another.
No. 1627073
>>1626948I also have to post art in the thread to get accepted, i don’t want to leave a significant footprint on /ic/. I know I’m literally a nobody in a sea of nobodies and a few bizarre artists on /ic/ but it makes me so anxious.
I don’t trust most of the people on any /ic/ server either
No. 1627094
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>>1627088I'll take the ban for a-log but damn I hate this fucking freak so much, this is the first time a woman managed to hurt my soul with mere drawings, there's such a dark vibe in these works, the amount of detail involved it's just making it worse, the more you look at it the worse it gets. I keep having intrusive thoughts about her mutilation fetish and her goddamn leg, to the point I'm currently doing a conscious effort to forget she ever existed
No. 1627107
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>>1627091Even she doesn't claim it as a joke, she is super into amputation as a kink. I remember even as far back as her dangan ronpa art, part of the reason she was super into Komaeda is because he had an amputated hand.
She was well known for this AU she made.
No. 1627111
File: 1688737401665.jpeg (2.12 MB, 2242x3262, IMG_5182.jpeg)
>>1626772Your dates are way off.
From someone who was deep in the matsu fandom to witness this all happening in real time:
> 18 September 2016 (your screenshot): Kellan wants to fuck Todokaras but she just had her phallo (“circumcision”) so they can’t. > 07/08/2016 is the timestamp on the dogfucking video.This hadn’t been made public yet.
> Mar 30 2017 (picrel) Todokaras gets outed by her ex.Todokaras had fucked her brother’s dog and sent this video to Homoeboy. Honoeboy released the receipts after they broke up.
Kellan is messed up for a thousand different reasons but she didn’t keep talking with Todokaras post dogfuckery, because nobody relevant or known kept in contact. Todokaras deleted the same day she was exposed. She has tried to make comebacks but nobody has publicly interacted with her since then.
All of this info is in the kiwi farms thread.
No. 1627156
>>1627059Nope. You must be an actual newfag to buy that bullshit. There are videos of people delving into this, his scamming,
his participation in a BIID Facebook group, etc. Stop listening to retarded furries crying about alt right boogeymen whenever their degeneracy is discussed, that's how some people end up defending KeroTheWolf.
No. 1627180
>>1627027This. Seriously, some of these anons are either very very naive or they're whiteknighting this particular tif for some reason. In a world where attention seekers like Kelly exist, is it really that hard to believe that a tif who drew this shit
>>1627088 , made several drawings and posts fantasizing about cutting off her leg and then actually got that leg amputated didn't find a way to do it herself/induce it?
It's like saying that a moid drawing very realistic lolishota shit totally isn't into real kids, because you have no proof he is! Like come on now.
No. 1627185
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>>1627179this is the only thing that comes up if you search his name in kf, stop lying. We all hate furfags and its fun to hate on them, but that doesnt mean we have to be retarded and trust anything we read online without proof.
No. 1627208
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Deleting a bunch of tweets, and liking posts by mutuals talking about wanting to play with his stumps. Totally seems like someone in pure grief over an unfortunate accident.
No. 1627223
File: 1688747304601.jpg (169.97 KB, 1078x407, bhj.jpg)
Just found this. Yeah, no. He did that shit on purpose. I will not believe his furry BFF. This is not sane. Reposted because I used the wrong image lmao
No. 1627240
>>1627208that's just common furry bullshit, the same reason why the other furry said the phrase of the paws. Furries are just cringe like that. They have the humor of rawr xd emo kids of the 00s.
>>1627223the magic wand is a massager, my mom owns one and she doesnt use it as sex toy, he even starts the phrase by saying ''sex is cool and all BUT''. God i hate when people make up bullshit just because they think its fun.
No. 1627241
File: 1688747797164.png (310.47 KB, 1377x867, dogpatchpress.png)
It's weird how the person who claims to have "searched" KF and demands spoonfeeding somehow doesn't realize "Dogpatchpress" (the one insisting PretzelzCollie didn't do it for a fetish) is a cow with a 33-page thread who masturbated in public and has defended unsavory individuals in the past. I'm tired of the twitterfags addicted to defending these kinds of people ITT.
No. 1627265
>>1627088In case anyone still doubts homie or the furry guy have BIID and fetishes, dry ice is extremely common for this, and homunculus literally drew art of herself using it here
>>1626920. You don't relax into dry ice, that shit fucking hurts, it's not "just an accident" and it's not a painkiller of any sort.
https://academic.oup.com/jbcr/article/43/Supplement_1/S184/6552484>A 20-year-old man with self-diagnosed Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) sustained a 12% TBSA FB injury to his BLE following intentional submersion in dry ice for an estimated 4 hours (Figure 1). He presented to the Burn Center from an outside facility approximately 12 hours post injury with initial rewarming having already occurred. He immediately underwent catheter directed intra-arterial thrombolysis with tissue plasminogen activator (TPA) for leg length preservation. TPA infusion was initiated at 16 hours post-injury for a total infusion time of 24 hours. Wound care consisted of gentle twice daily cleansing with silver sulfadiazine and mafenide acetate creams. The patient ultimately required bilateral below the knee amputations which successfully healed with minimal autografting to the distal limbs. He was formally diagnosed with schizophrenia by our behavioral health team and initiated on risperidone. He underwent aggressive physical therapy and was discharged home with his parents after 21 days. He underwent weekly mental health follow up appointments and has been seen regularly in our burn and rehabilitation clinic.https://www.news24.com/life/wellness/body/condition-centres/leg/leg-problems/man-froze-off-hated-right-leg-20120721>An Australian father-of-three who had "hated" his right leg for 25 years told how he plunged it in a bucket of dry ice for six hours so surgeons at a Sydney hospital had no choice but to amputate below the knee.
>Openshaw said he has a rare neurological condition called body integrity identity disorder (BIID), which sufferers claim is a medical condition characterized by an overwhelming desire to lose a limb or become a paraplegic.
>Other BIID sufferers have used the dry ice technique to bring on a hospital amputation. An unknown number mutilate themselves or find backstreet surgeons willing to do the job for them. Though there are thousands of people around the world like Openshaw who claim to have BIID, many psychologists refuse to recognise it as a genuine identity trait. There is only one case of a doctor agreeing to cut off the limb of a BIID sufferer.https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Health/story?id=1806125&page=1>Karl is a double amputee, but not by accident, birth or disease. He is an amputee by choice.
>Six years ago, Karl (who asked that his real name not be used) sat alone in a parked car with 100 pounds of dry ice and an obsession to destroy his legs.
>"The first thing I did was I used a wooden flour scoop to scoop some granulated dry ice into the bucket. … It filled the wastebasket with carbon dioxide gas, which was 79 degrees below zero," he said.
>Over the next 45 minutes, Karl put his legs in the wastebasket and then kept adding dry ice until it got to the top. "I spent the next six hours well-packed in the dry ice, and then I'd add more dry ice to keep it topped off," he said.https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/the-strange-cases-of-healthy-people-who-want-to-be-disabled-1.3757705>A 21-year-old man arrived at a hospital and asked for his left leg to be amputated. He had placed it on dry ice for six hours in order to ensure that it would have to be removed. He had longed for it to be amputated ever since he was a little boy.
>This is a real case. No. 1627369
>>1627367>The artstyle is not goodYes it is. You're just seething because you don't like the artist as a person, but that doesn't make the art style bad. If it was truly unappealing, then it wouldn't be so popular.
>You can find someone else who draws like that without the tif mutilation stuff.Tell me who, please. I want to see it.
No. 1627374
>>1627369I'm not
>>1627363Find one of the thousands of people who draw circle head stick bodies. The art style is incredibly generic and was popular around the era of animation memes. Underage people latched onto it, hell look at the ugly yandere boyfriend game that autists were obsessed with. Are you actually attracted to the artstyle, or are you attracted to the idea of consuming something seen as
problematic?
No. 1627428
>>1627419>The "detailed backgrounds" are just some shitty shaky linesYeah, you're totally not biased at all.
This artist got popular extremely fast, and it's not hard to see why. The style is appealing and they draw cute stuff. I hate amputation shit, but really, truly like the style and you'll never talk me out of liking it.
>>1627427I can bet that there will be something off about yours and that your inauthentic attempt to copy someone else won't appeal to people like me in the same way, but I welcome you to try. I'd like to see it.
(whiteknight) No. 1627430
>>1627369Anon, I can tell you’re new because you’re not saging your posts: you’re right that people automatically say her art is bad because of a moral bias. Yes, her stuff is actually good, her fma, mp100 and Dangan Ronpa content has unsurprisingly gathered a fanbase, she does have rendering/animation styles, and her creativity only just started to decline with the leg shit/uncreative white blob things. But yeah, she’s good. At the same time, because she’s a mentally ill shotafag and therefore satan incarnate, though, everybody here will be hellbent on saying she’s shit and there’s really nothing you can say to change it. If she was making pro
terf stuff (don’t get me wrong, that’d be based) and got hit and killed by a car, then the same people would be sad because ‘such a cool and talented artist died, rip’. If I was you I wouldn’t bother, and I’d try to integrate better.
No. 1627440
File: 1688760353177.png (3.72 MB, 1650x3311, 1688743244123613.png)
why the fuck are korean webtoons so hideous. I know manga gets memed for having derivative artstyles, but webtoons are miles worse, there isnt a single unique style in this sheet, even though its supposed to have the best of the best to attract new readers.
No. 1627446
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nonnas, just finished reading the todokaras thread from /snow/ and knowing what kind of groupie homie, and possibly more of this same level of degenerate with mediocre level of art skill are scattered all over the internet is making lose hope in humanity
I was there when there's a twitter account compiling all of todokaras' horrors, on god my brain has repressed all of that information to protect me
I don't care whether Homie's BIID real or not I don't want to share the same space with homie's nor the audience generated from that kind of content. This is why drawing slightly NSFW these days get you immediately grouped with lolisho/amputee/fetish artists. How did we all get here.
No. 1627489
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>>1627440I have a theory webtoons boom is from teens and tweens who don't have access or knowledge of classic anime, maybe at the start. Though as for the art style I beleive things get simplified because it's a group effort with loose art direction.
https://twitter.com/HOJI_98/status/1603383419710627842 No. 1627504
>>1627498Sakimi is also losing her skills because she cashed in on trends.
>>1627440It used to have unique styles but webtoons are different from regular manwha. Webtoons from all countries are trash. The format works only online, if you print it you’re in for a lot of work. Didn’t a popular one try, like Lore Olympus?
No. 1627528
>>1627440Judging from the covers on your list, those aren’t really bad. There’s much worse art styles specifically the one on the right here
>>1627489 i dont hate it but it’s so overused.
No. 1627577
>>1627489It's not that deep really. It's time. That's why so many of the historical fantasy ones for example will use the same CSP 3D assets.
There's plenty of amazing Korean webtoons, but just like with manga you just have to find what you like in between the trash.
No. 1627666
>>1627663no ones gonna draw a full art piece for a bit, do you have that kind of time whiteknight?
>>1627662This site is dedicated to collecting, gathering, and laughing at people like that. Their comment is nothing new, and frankly I missed talks about cows in this thread
No. 1627667
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>>1627663she quite literally has no grasp on perspective anon lol
No. 1627677
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kek, imagine having such a small visual libary that a flat and bland background with nonsensical perspective impresses you
No. 1627681
>>1627671she has really beginner mistakes like making the horizon line too high it makes everything look like a down shot even if the characters look otherwise straight on. Not speaking on this one but looking up her other work it becomes a noticeable trend, especially in the 1 point perspective pieces. also things not lining up to the same point
I know I'm nit picking but her tangents are also driving me crazy
No. 1627829
File: 1688789048850.png (3.75 MB, 2994x1924, HomieArt.png)
Sorry for my bad photoshop skills, but this is a comparison of their art on the Tumblr and Twitter. As well as screenshots of them expressing interest in the same fandom. From what I can gather:
>interested in the same fandoms
>interested in the same ships
>both have emo aus with the exact same style
>uses the same art style
>kokichi (dangonronpa) obsession
>interested in amputee ship art
Can't compile a lot of art or other screenshots because the tumblr has been nuked, and the Homunculus100_ is suspended right now. If anyone has anything to add, please let us know.
No. 1627951
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There's this indie RPG "Book of Travels" stuck in early access development hell that looks really interesting artistically and chill to play but the devs decided to ruin it with tranny logic. Basically the characters (which are human and not an alien race) are supposed to be genderless blobs. When you build your character you get to choose from different "forms" (base models of different types) and something like a free form field to enter your gendie-gender. Because that whole concept is impossible to design even with a very stylized art style the figures mostly just look like they're all women – like, the base design for everyone is leg-heavy and pear-shaped with tiny hands and feet. It's just so stupid, why would you ruin your whole game like that. I feel so bad for all sane artists and devs involved.
No. 1628047
>>1627896>>1626777>>1626775>>1624877>>1625177Thread for Homunculus100_ is now up on
>>>/snow/1860168Please post screencaps there for archiving.
No. 1628076
>>1627601>>1627611i know we all hate the dumb amputee freak, but you cant deny there is some talent in her art that
>>1627556 couldnt capture. For example, homie knows the right amount of detail to use before it starts to look stiff and weird, she also has a good enough grasp in proportions and her stylization doesnt look like they added a countryball head to an otherwise normal body, anon's art looks like poorly done southpark art rather than homie's style. I hate that now this thread is invaded by twitterfags you have to either be completly against a cow or else you are baiting. I wont tolerate a smug retard just because a cow is more retarded.
No. 1628086
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thief steals art and profits at ax whilst the original artist was rejected. the ig acc of the thief dandingeroz and sketchcartel are now privated but i rly hope the situation doesnt blow over and they get named and shamed.
No. 1628164
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>>1627951I think you're thinking way too hard about it. It's fine to hate the ambiguously sexed art style, sure. Though saying it's ruined with "tranny logic" is a bit much. Your player character's gender plays 0 role on the actual gameplay. So far I have not encountered they/thems or neo pronouns in game though pleasantly there's NPCs, quest givers, and lore from blurbs that mention same sex relationships. Slight spoilers about humans
There's a few species that are definitely 2 legged humanoids but not human-human per se. There's small people that work like a hivemind and produce asexually. There's race of giants that get reborn into a new body when they die. The world has spiritual gods that can or cannot dieAnd personally I thought the dimmed is male.
No. 1628192
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>>1628188I'd argue it's just the cheaper option rather than making 2 illustrated drawings/2 body models for each of the player characters lol. I don't know if it helps but in a recent update they gave some hair/facial hair customizations as well. I think they don't lock the gender per class because it's a game where you roleplay with a character you write. Sure, I also want more customization, I almost wish most special equipment render on the character model similar to ffxiv but that sadly doesn't sound possible with the scale of the game. I am not sure if they're tying themselves into a pretzel because of that though. I'm trying to see your point of view but to me it's not a big deal especially when the game is very scaled out from all the characters like pic rel which is why there's barely any features in the first place.
There's another similar game, Sky: Children of Light, another MMO where you just make friends with strangers and explore and that too had ambiguous bodies if you look outside long hair = female. short = male.
No. 1628207
>>1627556This doodle has eyes that touch and has realistically proportioned arms and a detailed hand that don’t match the South Park face; see
>>1627677 ; homunculus’ eyes don’t touch, are much smaller, and her bodies (so arms and hands) are stylized too. Not realistically proportioned like the “gotcha” one.
This is shit, anon, and
>>1628187 is right. It’s embarrassing to watch anons sucking each others cocks and whine about twitterfags while pretending that shitty doodle actually looks like homunculus’ style when anon couldn’t even nail a simple stylized hand and torso.
(nitpicking) No. 1628241
>>1628192The tiny heads look like globohomo art. No thanks. It had potential with what ideas you’ve told me but I wouldn’t want to play this.
>>1628203He’s great. I get defensive when randos get mad at him for jokes. He’s old so he doesn’t seem to get online culture a lot; which is great because he’s out there living life. A year ago he did a collab with some other painters and the gist was you add on to an existing painting and then ship it to the next artist to add to it. He made a joke about burning the painting and commenters got up in arms about it even though he showed it was a joke in the video and they didn’t like his contribution. The previous artist even came in and defended his add-on.
Also I wish we could see more of his wife’s work. She does pen and ink/watercolor. I’ve only seen bits of it but it would be cool if he made a Q and A video for her. Maybe she’s camera shy.
No. 1628253
>>1628215Thanks for giving it a check either way,
Nonny. I realize you can't overlook the genderless thing but if you could you'd be amazed at the little things the game has to offer. Sorry for shilling, I have low hopes for the game servers staying up for long because of its massive flop at launch. I love it to bits but the team is doing what they can.
>>1628241kek, personally I like it even if my own art style and regular niche doesn't look anything remotely like it. They blend really well with the stylized backgrounds.
No. 1628272
>>1628207>hurr this doodle is not perfect!No one said it was, it's just how any normal person sees Homie's style.
Also maybe it's not perfect because it's, you know, a doodle retard
No. 1628283
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>>1628203what do you recommend to get started with gurney? i have seen him recommended by aruurara and this guy, and since i suck pretty badly at coloring i wanna check him out
No. 1628287
>>1628272imagine sucking at capturing such an easy style and comming here smugly trying to prove anything, kek. Back to fundies
nonny.
No. 1628292
>>1628241>>1628270By globohomo you guys mean corporate memphis style? Cause yeah, when I looked at
>>1627951 I had mixed feelings because there are things I like in it, but the corporate art elements really devalue it. I wonder why the artists chose to do it that way, it feels like they have the skills to do better, but I guess memphis has been ingrained into some people, or maybe they thought it'd make it look modern and give a more general appeal.
No. 1628293
>>1628272 >>1628254“You don’t need skill to draw like her, such a bland style, anyone could do the exact same in minutes!”
> anon shits out a south park face with anatomically correct-ish proportions and unlike the original style “w-well of course it looks like shit, it was done in minutes!! it wasn’t meant to be like her art, just how others PERCEIVE it! p-pedo zoo white knight!!!”
No. 1628299
>>1628283There’s not a set series for his videos regarding what you’re looking for since he posts a lot about casein and gouache but tutorials are in his books and DVDs. So if you want to learn more you have to buy. I haven’t found any tutorials but he’ll post snip-its of those ideas in YouTube.
>>1628253The backgrounds are nice, that caught my eye more than the figures.
>>1628292Globohomo is also called corporate Memphis yes or Alegeria. They’re easy to produce because they sell them in packs. You can adjust the heads hands and feet without having to draw anything.
No. 1628305
>>1628287I'm not the artist dumbass
>>1628293It doesn't even look bad kek it's just two anons who think it does, and one of the whiteknights is rancefag so you know how desperate they really are
No. 1628387
>>1628293I love how you think that somehow more distant eyes and more "correct" proportions (Homie's proportions are atrocious and hardly correct) were going to turn anon's doodle into a masterpiece that can be at the same level as Homie's sacred retarded art. No, they both suck, both are awful and very very mediocre.
>She didn't capture her style!!And what difference does it make? Her style is still very ugly, anon probably didn't even look at the original style enough because who fucking cares about getting the same exact shitty lines and cartoony eyes.
I get being salty over a cowtipper driving away your precious cow (who is just a regular shotafag tif), but you really don't have to pretend her style was good. It's just tumblr-tier shit.
No. 1628429
>>1628387nta but its annoying because it's clearly a twitter refugee trying to be smug over it. On a normal thread not invaded by twitter shitters drove by the cowtippers everyone would have made fun of anon's piss poor attempt at trying to copy a cow's simple artstyle and failing miserably at it. You have to be retarded not to see the difference between's anon's attempt and homie's artstyle. Again, i dont like homie's artstyle, but i can see why she was famous AND she was a talented artist
>>>/snow/1860256, she just choose a simple artstyle.
No. 1628437
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>>1627115was it snout/huliia/mimoIet/hulimatsu?
just got suspended but newest account was @sn35out
No. 1628472
>>1628387…I actually said it’s anon who has more correct-ish proportions, while homunculus has a more stylized approach. Criticizing attention seeking, mediocre “gotcha!”-art anon doesn’t mean worshipping homunculus’ countryball style. I wasn’t sucking homies frankencock by pointing out it’s laughable to attention seek by posting a vaguely related doodle to try to prove someone’s style is shit while completely failing to get the style right.
It’s very weird to see anons acknowledge that just because you’re found of a cow it doesn’t mean they’re less of a fair game (very true) but then get weirdly protective of an anon posting a random vaguely relevant doodle because it counts as ‘us’, and anyone who thinks that’s cow-ish behavior or who acknowledges homunculus does have good art pieces/animations is ‘them’, ‘homie’s friends’, ‘twitterfags’. it’s not whiteknighting if you think both are morons.
No. 1628481
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I can't believe someone would be so keen on defending some bitch with a lorax movie tier art style because anons don't like that she drew fetish art. Idc about the fetish shit but it's just not that good of an art style and assuming that follower count=quality is retarded
>>1628437>report them on these websites.>baraagKEK sorry, furry shit is gross to me but come on how don't they know about baraag? they're basically doing promo for them by linking that
No. 1628494
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>>1628429>AND she was a talented artistThis is really the hill you want to die on nona? Expand your visual library, she was a mid fanartist at best. Fanartists always get big followings, it's unhealthy to have the mindset that more followers = better artist
No. 1628497
>>1628480These kinds of people don't actually care about loli or shota. It doesn't bother them that sites like baraag are literally made for degenerate shit, they never want to take them down, and they never target the actual predators talking about wanting to abuse real life kids or openly brag about abusing animals on that side of the internet (it's a fucking cesspool, pretty sure there's a /snow/ thread about them).
They just get a high off knowing that an account that belongs to whoever they're fixated on is deleted, because they know they did that. Most of the people behind those posts turn out to be former friends/followers of the "artist" in question, and were into all that shit up until they were blocked over whatever autistic furry drama they had, and this is just an easy way to get their attention.
No. 1628515
>>1628483I don’t know about this artist but I’d say look into official art schools. There’s a lot of great teachers. Schoolism is monthly but you get to check out as many classes as you can before the month ends. Marshall Vadruff release his class on Bridgman for free on YouTube. I like classical art so those are my suggestions but there are a lot of illustrator classes too online. Some artists charge too much and don’t know how to teach so you don’t want to waste money.
>>1628497How are those sites ok to even host? I accidentally went there since I was researching mastodon as an alternative to Twitter and somehow I got into some creepy art. I felt really gross. I don’t think I’ll try any of that stuff now for social media.
No. 1628584
>>1628437I haven’t seen that name in almost 10 years. In her defense, she probably got groomed into this monster. I was in an online friend group when I was still in hs and all the adults were LARPing sex which I found weird but never engaged with(even though I was encouraged to). I remember I got sick of it and when I was about to leave, she entered the group.
Tl;dr the worst pedos I encountered who actually were preying on younger folk for irl nudes and sexts etc were terminally online women wanting to be men
No. 1628593
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>>1628584that's sad, I know she used to post about how loli art helped her get over some trauma and OCD
she's also friends with the vtuber Celesse who is an actual pixar employee who posted her loli art on her portfolio sometime ago
No. 1628613
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>>1628584More on huliia/hulimatsu/snout.
She's a biologist with a PhD. Recently started ADHD medication. Her sister is a normal person who's also active on Twitter. Her bf is some guy named Emilio. She used to draw a lot of Inazuma Eleven, she's been drawing shotashit since 2010
No. 1628677
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>>1628613I can't even tell what's happening in your pic, anon
No. 1628764
>>1628633>>1628637@dohulia was one of her old Twitter handles.
Other facts is that she's Vietnamese and was a French minor. She lived in Washington and used to sell at Seattle cons there.
No. 1628806
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>>1628791It literally looks like the same shit wdym
No. 1628819
>>1628773She was @huliday in 2013. Her name is actually Julia, I got confused with Hulia. She's sold art to Adam Muto before. According to her mom she's some postdoc at Harvard now which is weird for a loli shota artist. Hope she does more instead of draw Disney incest porn. I don't how she did it while also being a IB student that got a shitton of scholarships and grants. Is it the autism and OCD or is she rich?
>>1628816Idk she didn't talk about it much and idk where he is. She's still talking to her mom and sis. Julia was famous in the Osomatsu fandom for feeding the ants in her apartment because she's Buddhist and her sister complained about it kek. Their dad or uncle is some guy at Boeing in Seattle. It's weird she loves incest so much while still in regular contact with her family. Incest artists like Avvypood and her bf bird/twolipt are completed estranged.
No. 1628834
>>1628819Forgive me if I'm retarded but isn't avvypood and twolipt the same person?
All these people are the same type of complete nonetheless
No. 1628848
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>>1628773Is this also her?
I feel like she maybe got the wrong message from lolita
No. 1628851
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>>1628299>The backgrounds are nice, that caught my eye more than the figures. It's the intention for sure. If anything my criticism is how the style doesn't communicate how old one building is from another, could have been a burnt building from last year to a centuries old megastructure that collapsed from inside and I wouldn't have been able to tell. Unfortunate since history and its mysteries is a huge driving force to most major questlines.
No. 1628866
>>1628848Wasn't Dolly a miserable abuse
victim who cried every night and ran away from Humbert as soon as she could? It's hilarious when dumpy adult women read Lolita with horny autopedo goggles wishing a sexy European unreliable narrator narcissist pedo would come into their life and sweep them off their feet after their mom dies in a car accident.
No. 1628896
>>1628848https://snout.carrd.co/ yes
After some googling it seems mastodon got pretty popular with lolisho and other creepy artists who were getting banned elsewhere. I’m not even surprised. (Do NOT recommend viewing the home page for the server she’s on)
No. 1628902
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>>1628896Telling that they needed to put this in their about lol
No. 1628956
>>1628935She said "before ruin" about her image and even if I can't place it within the timeline (maybe after he killed her mother on a motel bed?) it's a relationship that is
abusive from the start to the
victim finally getting away.
No. 1629148
>>1629102Man, you really have to give up your personal style and draw in Disney Style if you want to work at Disney/Pixar huh
>>1629119Oh absolutely, if you know you know. The shot of the shirt hanging off his shoulder, the tail around the man's leg, the merboy blushing when the man strokes his hair, the gigantic size difference…this would be OK if not for the story direction of the man seeing the merboy as a replacement for his dead son, so there's an allusion to underage, even if the merboy is hundreds of yrs old or whatever. She could've drawn a normal gay merman/man romance or a father+son Pinocchio-esque story smh
No. 1629164
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>>1629102Doubleposting but what the fuck.
All of the stuff featuring children on her main page is so creepy and always about a child-older man relationship. See picrel
No. 1629323
>>1629164I think I'll renege on moralfagging, if you work for Pixar and are a openly notable lolicon/pedo artist, you should get fired and blacklisted from all major animation studios. Tinfoiling for a second, but I really do think the world must be ran by pedos if shit like this keeps on being acceptable in a studio whose main demographic is young children. Vent art and hard themes like abuse/exploitation are different than drawing straight up kiddie porn. Even if you aren't out there abusing real children, you're appealing to a demographic that most likely does and will, enabling a libertine atmosphere of no judgement, everything is acceptable just breeds actually despicable behavior in real life. Think of Vewn's Twins in Paradise animation, where it's about child exploitation, death, abuse, drug addiction and a lot of her work plays with themes of a similar caliber. She's one animator who I can say seems to know how to balance the delicate line of disturbing medium without glorifying it or using it as a vehicle for masturbation fodder.
No. 1629367
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>>1629102It's crazy that this chick works for Pixar but Angela "Vee" Vondra got blacklisted from working in the entire industry for her shota obsession. Ang actually came back to twitter recently ("comanaged") and has been really entertaining
No. 1629406
>>1629303>>1629327>>1629331>>1629357The animation industry is full of sexpests and pedos. Pixar is bad but squeaky clean family-friendly Disney is chief among them. The character designer for The Little Mermaid was chosen specifically for his ability to draw sexy teenagers and drawing and sharing porn of the heroines is a common pastime for animators that started as early as Alice in Wonderland. I listened to a former Disney animator's podcast in which he mentioned in passing how he positively identified a colleague's work by how on-model he drew Alice sucking dick. The character is 7. It's hilarious when you remember that Harlan Elison lost his job after a day for joking about creating Disney porn.
No weeb but Miyazaki is on to something with his hatred for lolicons. He's a hypocritical curmudgeon and a bad father but his open disdain for degeneracy in the industry earns my respect.
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>>1629406>No weeb but Miyazaki is on to something with his hatred for lolicons. He's a hypocritical curmudgeon and a bad father but his open disdain for degeneracy in the industry earns my respect.I have some bad news for you, nonna
No. 1629430
>>1629406Yeah the animation industry is full of "casual" pedos like that, and no one cares as long as you keep quiet about your degeneracy, even though everyone around you knows about it.
I wonder if Disney himself tolerated it or pretended not to know because it seems he actually hated it, judging from those two anecdotes (the guy who was fired after one day and the fabled Minnie/Mickey porn animation, I don't know if it was the same incident)
>>1629420Didn't he also know about the term "lolicon" before it exploded in popularity?
No. 1629464
>>1629430Nope, not even Walt was exempt.
https://www.animationmagazine.net/2011/10/ollie-johnston-even-old-men-need-a-lift/>“Another time was, we were looking at the section of The Jungle Book where the little girl comes out and gets in the water, and the little boy’s up in the tree, and he falls into the water. She senses that he’s following her, so she drops the jug after a ways, and this continues all the way up, and the boy looks back at us [the audience] and shrugs his shoulders, and then he turns around and looks at the little girl, and she wrinkles her nose up at him. That’s one of the best drawings I ever did. And Walt turned to me and said, ‘That’s a pretty sexy little girl, Ollie.’ That was the last time we ever had a meeting with him.”I feel like in Japan, a lot of the early lolicons went on to become animators, or were already in the industry, but gained even more foothold and gradually threw out any sense of shame. No. 1629489
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>>1629420We can't have shit in the industry.
>>1629430Lolicon as a genre got its start around Tezuka's era when scrote mangaka would riff off of shoujo manga made by and for women and sexualize it.
>reminder that lolicon is synonymous with pedophile in Japanese>reminder that possession of CP was only criminalized in 2014 and that there are still hundreds, potentially thousands of "artistic" photobooks are still in quasi-legal circulation>The Japanese entertainment industry is openly pedophilic. You can still buy photobooks of elementary and grade school-aged girls doing cheesecake photoshoots>up until recently most shota was created by and for scrotes. Fujos adopting it is a relatively recent thingBut it's all just lines and pixels, right? Only antis would stoop to judging others over harmless thought crimes. Lolisho has no connection whatsoever to RL pedophilia and is just a healthy tool abuse
victims use to cope. They're attracted to the cuteness, not the fact that they're sexy children.
No. 1629510
>>1629367Is this the same as your linked comment? She sounds retarded with her DID diagnosis, or she’s possessed by demons lmao
>>1629102A lot of her work is pretty
sus as the kids say. There’s something about it that makes me uneasy, even if I didn’t know about her befor this. Like
>>1629164 wtf and her merboy with older man story
No. 1629512
>>1629489>up until recently most shota was created by and for scrotes. Fujos adopting it is a relatively recent thingthe first bl was shota,
nonny>inb4 mental gymnastics abuout how it wasnt shotait is, and the first shoujo romantic interest was inspired by a 14yo boy. Old school japanese yumefujos used to openly lust after famous european child and teen actors.
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>>1629512also, no, i am not saying they are equally bad as scrotes yada yada, its not a female vs male problem in this case, it seems like a cultural problem. Pìc rel from kentaro miura. Honestly, at this point when you consume manga you have to know you are supporting an industry thats openly pro loli/shota, you cant enjoy anime/manga guilt-free.
No. 1629530
>>1629514This comic is so fucking cringe kek (even ignoring the pedo apologia)
Why are male mangaka like this
No. 1629531
>>1629514>at this point when you consume manga you have to know you are supporting an industry thats openly pro loli/shotaLiterally stop consooming any garbage written or done by scrote mangakas it's that easy. Stop reading crap done by obvious coomers that must jack off to rape and femboy porn like miura was for fucks sake. Their plots are generic most of the time and they eventually shit the bed anyway.
The number of lolisho shit goes considerably down when you support women's work.
>Inb4 clamp or whateverThey started out as a fujo circle, figures. Stick to female authors and I guarantee you most of the time you'll be fine. And I'm talking about normal female authors, not the mentally ill yaoi ones.
I do agree Japan has a serious cultural problem with pedoshit though. Reminds me of the author of my lesbian experience with loneliness finally admitting she got sexually assaulted by a stranger when she was going home back at elementary school and she kinds of shoves it under the rug like no biggie. They really seem not to give a damn over children's safety over there.
No. 1629542
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>>1624877Found this screenshot on tumblr, it might the twitter minor who kicked off the whole thing.
As much as I hate contributing to this mess of story, here.
No. 1629544
>>1628515They're okay to host because simply put art isn't illegal even if it is degenerate or disgusting in the countries they're hosted in.
>>1628991Lolisho is just a convenient excuse to target artists that are more popular or better than they are in some way really. Like another anon said, they aren't really concerned with protecting people they're concerned with taking down someone they don't like.
>>1629420Some friends of mine and I were watching Castle in the sky and it was no secret the grown mean of the pirate crew had a crush on Sheeta. Miyazaki hates otaku because they don't leave their houses to interact with actual people, but in Japanese "otaku" is a term for anyone who can be considered so obsessive with anything they don't leave their house.
>>1629489No dog in this argument but lolicon isn't synonymous with pedophilia. lolicon is the combination of "lolita complex", there is an entirely different term for pedophilia (which will be written in katakana for pedophilia as it is pronounced specifically) or kanji. lolicon is a loan word.
No. 1629568
>>1629544Lolicon means pedophile in the same way Girl Lover means pedophile. Just like you would consider a self-proclaimed Girl Lover a pedo, you'd consider a lolicon one.
Scrotes tend to more easily stoop to insane levels of degeneracy the more sexually repressed their cultures are. Japan is a somewhat mild example compared to the likes of India or the Middle East, but it shows up a lot in their entertainment. They may boast a low sex crime rate since the vast majority go unreported due to shame and sexism, but they still have underaged bikini modeling and tickle meet and greets with chidols. Not to mention the fact that schoolgirls and rape are ubiquitous in their adult media.
No. 1629575
>>1629544Not anymore, it's been a while since "otaku" started having the same meaning as "geek" or "nerd". Now Japanese people will call a well adjusted adult with a good job, a spouse and kids and an extraverted personality an otaku if he or she is very into specific hobbies like video games, manga, tv shows, movies, mechas, tabletop games, trains, guns, etc.
No. 1629577
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>>1629542>>1629543Doesn't look like anyone is buying it. Mods even deleted the post.
No. 1629585
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I don't know this show but googled it because someone mentioned it, and found this fan art that blackwashed the obviously white boy kek
No. 1629598
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>>1629585Her friend is a lot darker in the show than in that image for whatever reason but Pepper Ann is a weird fucking pick to yassify
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Someone posted this and most of the quotes are "but think in the artist's feelings". Of course no art style is perfect but still.
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>>1629632Man built like this kek
No. 1629642
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>>1629612wikiart and google. Wikiart is really good, although its a bit hard to navigate. Here are some artists i like
https://www.wikiart.org/en/anna-ancherhttps://www.wikiart.org/en/carl-spitzweghttps://www.wikiart.org/en/gerolamo-indunosadly you can only dl the art that's public domain, so if i find an artist i like that's not in the public domain i google them. Gotta put it on the OP next thread.
>>1629632i hate how ugly it is but its also like the female version of when a man draws a woman with gigantic unrealistic tits and a tinywaist, kek. We need to gaslight men into getting bimbo lips and chin implants.
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>>1629632There’s more kek I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time
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>>1629650>>1629632And this is why people are going around saying not to give the artist (@gugongchill) a hard time
No. 1629693
>>1624877Someone tried to rationalize to me about the very real medical issue of not feeling like a limb belongs, which is absolutely a real thing, my issue if the fetishism about disabled people and themself that this artist perpetuates and they make themselves seem like like a
victim when they post things like "mobility devices!!… For people like me!" when it was their choice all along and they are not like other amputees. I don't know what I'd do if this fuck told a veteran they know what it's like to lose a limb. I get the whole comics about wishing the different way it could've been removed, a lot of people have those, but they draw literal fetish are about it too which doesn't sit well at all.
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>>1629652>>1629660I'm not even surprised if is because Webtoon/Lezhin/any comic company is quite harsh with their artists that they want the comic as soon as possible, ignoring the quality and the style.
No. 1629742
>>1629367 I wonder which alter was the one who drew shota.
Polyfragmented DID seems to only appear in genderspecials on Tumblr and Tiktok, or every housewife in the 80's who thought they were abused by a satanic cult, so make of that as you will
No. 1629752
>>1629367Vee wasn't blacklisted for shota
Her boss found her shota and shared it around the office making fun of it then she made a callout post about how it was sexual harassment to do so. Then another boss ghosted her for being a psycho and she blamed it on callout retaliation.
No. 1629777
>>1629752>Her boss found her shota and shared it around the office making fun of it then she made a callout post about how it was sexual harassment to do soKyle Carozza wasn't actually her boss, just a coworker who wanted to sleep with her and tried to cancel her by showing everyone her art (which he was shown by her deranged ex-fans/stalkers) when she refused. She got somewhat ghosted by the Helluva Boss people over the controversy, then claimed VivziePop was a hypocrite because she's drawn
problematic shit before too, and then they full-on fired her for that.
No. 1629920
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Any artists here with social anxiety too? I immediately feel ashamed of myself when i post my best works and they barely get any likes or retweets, i feel like i'm being judged even if i don't have a big following.
No. 1629986
>>1629973>>1629957NTA but that really isn't attention seeking. Attention seeking would be something like the Anon admitting that she actively RTs posts multiple times or makes tweets about not getting enough likes and retweets on her art in a bid to get more attention to her and her art but that wasn't the case. Anon was just venting about not getting attention and feeling judged on the quality of her works, rather than actively preforming attention seeking behavior. So again, she wasn't actively attention seeking. She does need to work on patience and not desiring internet validation though I definitely get where that desire comes from. To that, you really just need to stop caring about likes and retweets, and depending on the platform you could download one of those extensions that completely hides those metrics if it's really bad.
>doesnt sageYou don't need to sage on non-cow boards iirc.
No. 1629994
>>1629948you can post your art here
>>>/m/187240 and anons can tell you if its suck or if its just the Algorithm not being kind to you. Also, remember that most people have limited
tw accounts now, so its harder for people to see and liek your art.
No. 1630028
>>1629996^ this.learn to have a backbone
nonnie.if your acting like this on a anonymous board it's no wonder you get no traction
No. 1630132
>>1629948get a therapist instead of trying to get sympathy on fucking lolcow of all places.
or even better: get a backbone. people on social media don't care if it's your "best work", if it's not interesting to them then they just scroll past it. get a backbone and practice more because a good artist who's confident in their own skills is satisfied by their own creation and isn't dependent on twitter likes.
No. 1630278
>>1629986THANK YOU, finally someone that heard me and didn't twist my words, i just wanted to find someone who felt the same.
>>1630268>>1630270>"FIRST OF ALL SEETHE MORE"I can feel your skull in flames with anger from here KEK
No. 1630283
>>1630268You're not wrong but this reply made me die of cringe
nonnie.
No. 1630298
>>1630271I didn't know you could hide likes with adblock, i think i'll do that.
>>1630297Sure jan
No. 1630299
>>1629920I think you just really need to stop posting art for a while and, on the meantime learn to apreciatte your art for what it means to YOU anon, that way you won't always relay on external validation. You can also watch some art tutorials and look at your art critically and make a list of what to work on.
Good luck anon!
No. 1630304
>>1629920>>1629948I feel the same
nonny. I only have a couple thousand followers but my posts only gain 10% or less likes. I ask my friends for advice and they tell me I'm improving, so I'm coping by saying it's an algorithm thing. I would also saw pyw in the art critique thread for anonymous opinions, but I'm sure your work isn't bad. Social media is a numbers game, and sometimes the site likes you, and sometimes it doesn't. Does popularity matter more to you, or does your skill as an artist matter more?
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>>1630301I use Control Panel for Twitter 3.11.0, it's amazing. I can remove everything besides comments.
No. 1630313
>>1630299You understood completely what i meant, i rely too much on external validation and honestly, anons here weren't wrong when they said i have to grow a backbone kek, i'll take a break from posting.
>>1630304Blaming the algorithm isn't a cope because sometimes it's the main reason your posts flop
nonny. I'd say skill matters more to me, but i won't lie, i care a lot about other liking my art too out of insecurity.
>>1630309This extension is all that i wanted thanks for sharing, i'll look for it online.
No. 1630327
>>1630313>i care a lot about other liking my art too out of insecuritySadly I don't think there's anything that will change other than trying to find what's your niche and what people like. I advise against strictly drawing what appeases others, but only do it if you really want to grow your account. You can quickly lose your passion to draw if you only draw for attention.
>>1630318This. I would add tags and my post would only get 1 to 3 likes within the first 10 minutes of upload. Twitter algorithm leak said your post visibility is influenced in order by likes > replies > YOUR reply to a comment > retweets. I don't know if this has changed again though because the leak was moths old.
No. 1630340
>>1630338no
>>1630327>Twitter algorithm leak said your post visibility is influenced in order by likes > replies > YOUR reply to a comment > retweets. I don't know if this has changed again though because the leak was moths old.anything similar out there for instagram? are they still prioritizing reels?
No. 1630350
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Nonnas, how do I repel gendies from my accounts without outright telling them I think they're severely mental ill. I'm sick of humouring them and they seem to come in droves because of my art (it's just stupid weeb gore shit)
No. 1630353
>>1630350it's not really possible to expel them entirely without doing something that will outright offend them like putting youre a
terf in your bio or something.
id say like… make yourself as normie appealing as possible in your bio or the way you type, basically don't appeal to them in any way. don't have any flags in your bio or pronouns, nothing they can latch onto. but yes if you're making weeb gore art it inevitable that these types will flock to it
No. 1630382
>>1630367 if they actually had money I'd consider humouring them, but they're all childern or lazy grifters
>>1630353 >>1630352 Thank you nonas! I'll attempt to go the soulless normie route and see if that impacts the rate in which they're interacting
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Anons, do you want to make money off drawing, or do you prefer it as a hobby? And for those who both draw as a hobby and have a full-time job or are students of something unrelated to art, how do you manage the time? Personally, I draw niche stuff that only interests me, so I doubt anyone would want to pay for it, and doing personalized commissions for OCs is such a bore that I only take them when I need the money.
No. 1630400
>>1630389Basically go to work, come home and fuck around for a while, sketch and do art, stay awake until 6hrs before having to wake up for real work, go work, come home, cry about making dinner because burnout, eventually eat, do work until 5hrs before I have other work..
Uh, yeah. It's fun. Commissioners don't have a life, very few make a living off of what they due to oversaturation.
No. 1630418
>>1630389I want to work on a game or TV show one day. I'm in a place where I'm able to live off commissions, but I'm hoping to get an internship soon.
>>1630395ntayrt but most everyone who's western that I follow has pronouns in their bio, even professionals in the art workfield
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>>1629650>>1629652Apparently the artist was quite young and remade the comic from zero. I'm all for webcomic artists for going ahead and make their comic, but after they learned one thing or two about anatomy/perpective/etc.
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>>1630828From the same artist.
No. 1630834
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Just saw someone say that Kooleen's response to this is going to "make or break" her career but it can't possibly be that deep. She's probably not going to say anything and everyone will have forgotten by tomorrow. I haven't even seen any heavy accusations come from this and she already got into a similar situation over her video saying she doesn't draw ugly people and that no beginner should and nothing came from that iirc. It's good that people notice bad advice at least
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>>1630853Understandable. Her smexy juicy lips mommy daddy shtick is so fucking annoying. Even if her advice was good it would still be impossible to listen to. And her art looks so lifeless. This kind of drawing where you can clearly tell which parts were referenced always ends up looking so bad
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There's this person who want me to draw 10 drawings of their oc but for some reason they keep insisting that I open up a binance account because their bank account is having trouble with PayPal (the only form of payment I accept)
I told them I accept paypal only and they keep pressuring me to open up a behance account and that they will pay me upfront and that they are legit.
Am I an asshole for thinking this could be scammish or something?
No. 1631175
>>1631094The refused to pay with any other service.
>>1631159Binance, the crypto stuff.
>>1631171Im glad I'm not the only one who thought that kek
No. 1631213
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>>1631197Keep it in a box, folder/s, purge the really bad and uninteresting shit, keep composition notebooks of lesser drawings, etc. For what purpose? I don't know.
>>1631206Sometimes this
No. 1631245
>>1631240When i was 15 on Tumblr I had a mutual that was your textbook troon gendie with 493849 mental disorders and a list of pronouns and the best part: they were fictionkin and firmly believed they were a fictional character from a videogame in their past like even though they are older than said video game's release date.
I got to watch their downfall when they got into some discourse with a
terf of the same fandom and both basically just did a downfall together. It was amusing. I still hate otherkin and all other kinnie types to this day because of that freak.
No. 1631254
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>>1631197I am glad i am not the only one. I just finish it, show it to an art friend and then shelve it. My friend keeps telling me i should post it online, but i seriously doubt anyone cares about what i like. I mostly draw cute boys in military uniforms, with guns, tanks, aircrafts, monster boys, gijinkas etc. I checked the current state of yume twitter and /cbsg/ on /ic/ and i dont think i fit in with the other cute boy artists, they seem to be mostly into bishies/edgy characters like that richard ramirez spiderman guy or old men, which i find all disgusting(sorry). Not a tranny but sometimes i think i was born with a moid mind, i have been told if i drew the same thing i do but with cute girls i would be super popular. I would really love to share my stuff but i would rather not get cancelled over drawing the wrong shit online, lol.
No. 1631257
>>1631255Man the same thing happened to me. Call me dumb or humblebragger but I had two accounts, one main and one for art only, both with well over 2k followers on a pretty niche fandom. Whenever I'd post art, be it a doodle or a full art piece, people would come in hordes. I'd routinely break over 3k retweets on my posts, I've had my art shared around by voice actors even.
It was fucking terrifying though because truly whatever I said or did, a fuckton of people would see it. I started to grow more and more anxious that I'd eventually say or draw something that would anger someone because I knew it could make its rounds and I feared I'd get dogpiled by the fandom and we all know how fandoms can get when they decide they don't like someone. In the end, I gave up on those two accounts. I made a third account for some other even more niche fandom, that account has 100 followers or so, and I feel much more at ease. Sure, I don't have all the likes and RT's anymore but that did wonders to my mental health.
No. 1631273
>>1631254you could make a private twitter or tumblr and post your work there, and link it to anyone who might be interested?
i agree w
>>1631256 that based on your description id personally love to see your work and i think theres an audience for it too
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>>1631256>>1631273>>1631283thanks, nonnies. I think my biggest fear is that i draw male characters too moe and it might get confused with shota. All of my favourite artists draw moe, so i developed a very moe artsyle, like pic rel but with male characters. I dont think many women are into moe artstyles, that plus the fact i have male history autism might make it pretty repelling for anyone but me.
>>1631309I dont like tacticool stuff, sorry. I prefeer older, classier uniforms. I mostly draw anime boys in Civil War uniforms.
No. 1631457
>>1631397I am of the belief that witch hunting people to the extreme pushes them to be even more maladjusted or create circlejerks where they get even worse in the head which is how you end up with pawoo or baraag. For example, I'm convinced the recent rise of lolishos in the west is directly related with the rise of antis, and people trying to be contrarian or becoming interested in taboo shit to be edgy or "based". I just didn't find as many open degenerates in the 2000s when everyone minded their business.
Like I wonder where homunculus will end up going, if it's going to be a case of that Nook brothers artist and become even more degenerate.
Anyway I just have this idea because I ended up in a discord server once that lumped all of the people in a fandom that were cussed out of other servers for various offenses like pissing off troons, saying the word "trap", "sexualizing minors" (as in aged up characters with looks like Inuyasha or Asuka, not extremely young) and whatever else. Lolicons ended up taking over and dragged many of the people who never had interest in it into the degeneracy, idk if to fit in or what. I quit the server because they ended up spamming loli porn. There were females in there, kicked out of regular servers for the previos zoomer crimes, getting groomed into it as well.
No. 1631473
>>1631457I see it the same way. I feel like the western online community's preaching for moral purity and correctedness has reached a point where their actions are literally worsening the very problem they're facing. Because nowadays you can be witch hunted on social media for almost anything. If you draw a nose slightly wrong, if you pick a skin color that's just a few tones off, if you draw certain themes, if you don't draw certain themes, if you have a fetish, if you ship the "wrong ship" and so on.
At least in the late 00's and early 10's, people more or less kept to themselves on the internet. Freaks were freaks in their own separate forums/websites and they didn't bleed into other spaces, but nowadays they're everywhere because they keep getting chased out of their shithole and proceed to become even more degenerate as a form of defiance or to find other likeminded users to surround themselves with. The fact that nowadays porn other horny shit have been normalized as funny haha cringy jokes only made the problem worse in my eyes. Porn is a joke which is the perfect backdrop those lolishos need to be disgusting on social media freely.
No. 1631573
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>>1631529If you follow art channels or other internet personalities they will make furry jokes and feature them heavily like it's nbd just another little silly community. I'm not saying they are. I'm saying that's what the current western internet narrative try to paint them as, which is ironic considering how they witch hunt other shit.
No. 1631794
>>1631769The author of Lackadaisy literally wrote a whole ass manifesto about how much she hates the furry community and considers them degenerates and doesn't want her work to be branded as "furry". There's a big difference between anthro art/characters and furries, I wouldn't consider someone like Vivziepop a furry at all since she's just a generic non-human artist.
>>1631763How the fuck does one compare furry avatars to lolishota? Obviously lolishota is a gigantic red flag but they rarely even try to claim otherwise besides some "they're just drawings" cope because anyone who's not retarded can see them for what they are, but furries try to sweep all the disgusting fetishes and child abuse in their community under the rug and point the finger at everyone else. Sympathizing with furries becoming a bannable offense when.
No. 1631806
>>1631529There has been this huge push to make furries seem as harmless as possible despite being huge degens because they shell out a lot of money on comms. I first started seeing this narrative on tumblr and overtime it has seeped to other places online.
Gone are the days where furries were known SA and now they’re just quirky guys who are dedicated to their craft.
No. 1631810
All this talk about furries and lolishotas as well as
>>1631473 reminded me of one detail I hate the most about the current online art scene (and online social media scene in general).
I hate how porn and NSFW content has been normalized and is seen more as a joke or meme nowadays. Don't get me wrong I'm not a prude by any means but I literally can't scroll down my timeline without coming across at least one badly drawn pair of asscheeks or boobs attached to the current popular anime girlie and some quirky or meme-y caption alongside it and I don't even follow that many NSFW artists. And I hate even more how most of that NSFW "meme" art isn't tagged appropriately and god forbid you ask the artist to tag it because they'll claim you're some sexless nun who folds at the sight of an exposed ankle when all you want is to not see a bare fucking drawn cock untagged on the timeline. I've unfollowed so many artists and even mutuals I liked because they'd just go down the same "hehe porn funny!" hole and gunk up the timeline with untagged NSFW shit.
No. 1631823
>>1631792Kek nonna you gave me a heart attack.
I'm the one who originally brought up the double standard because I used to have a furry friend (gay moid). We met online as teenagers when we both were not part of any fandom and he ended up getting into the furry community. At first he told me it was non-sexual and since as a child I also was obsessed with anthro (movies, neopets, sparkledogs, Lackadaisy itself), I believed him.
Eventually he met other furries and it became very sexual, which I tolerated because it's just fiction I thought (plus a huge pothead from the influence of his furry friends which made it difficult to keep talking to him so to the anon who mentioned drug use, yeah). I became an anime artist, since I think what attracted me to Neopets comic style to begin with were those simplified dot nose, big eyes proportions.
Well, he told me anime style is kinda pedophilic (to me, his friend, an anime artist) because all the girls look like they're in school. I sat there thinking… wait. You are sexually attracted to bear and goat faces. You draw animal heads on human bodies with their penis out and are implying I'm into children because of my artstyle choice. Keekk.
I cut him off ever since but it changed my view on furries entirely. It's easy not to know about the extent of their degeneracy if you don't look into it btw, I had no idea how prevalent real predators and orgy messes were in there until I read up lc sites.
No. 1631844
>>1631821It's fucking stupid because while making furry conventions strictly +18 would fix the issue of furries being incapable of behaving normally near children or teenagers in those real life spaces you have part of the fandom screaming "CENSORSHIP!" and that "young furry fans should be welcome!" and "don't make furry into a taboo!" and basically opening the gates for perverts who are into cub shit and who think it's okay to wear diapers or make sexual innuendos in a room with minors.
Hard to not turn it into a taboo when all furfags seem to think about is sex and drugs even in public spaces.
No. 1632200
>>1630389I wanna make money off it somehow. I do have an art related job, but it's with commission based and with a brand. Though, this actually makes me want to work on my own stuff at home cos I can think like "the stuff I draw for these clients is boring, so what DOES interest me?" In the past like at art school, before dropping out,
omg I'm an art school drop out look ma I made it I was burnt out from doing my own art at school and not wanting to improve it, because I felt like I could only improve based on what my teachers liked. From that I can also tell I'd be terrible with personal commissions for my own art, here's hoping that somehow a small local gallery will like my original works? I don't know anymore. I do know I don't wanna be stuck with my current job forever though.
No. 1632234
>>1631955Doing ok over here with my consistent stream of furry bucks
>>1632200If you’re open to networking local shows are a great place to start. I also recommend art or maker fairs in your area, just make sure you have a good portfolio ready for review because they get competitive and usually have a screening panel
No. 1632433
>>1632428i understand nona's aprehension though because in my case i did get shit for drawing military themes. i have an account with moderate following as well as an original story that's primarily based on military though it's less about the nitty gritty stuff and more about me wanting to have ocs with military uniforms looking cool. my drawings weren't even too crazy, most of them was just characters standing or doing random stuff in a white void. multiple times i got accused of being a "military apologist" and got compared to those WW2 obsessed moids and other nonsense simply because i publicly proclaimed i found uniforms cool and fun to draw and i had a military story. eventually it stopped but that's because i just stopped drawing my ocs period. nowadays i only post them in a locked account.
now maybe if nona manages to be insular enough that she ends up surrounding herself only with people who like that type of content nobody will bother her, but never doubt the potential of a regular nosy twitter/tumblr acab-obsessed gendie to accuse you of crazy things based on what you draw.
No. 1632436
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Does anyone know what brushes was used for the coloring and lineart, and what ibisPaintx alternatives I could use?
No. 1632451
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>>1631469This is really funny to read as an actually furry, cause the current furry fandom drama is people argueing about whether or not it's okay to draw porn of "ferals," straight up animals on all 4 legs. Picrel is a piece of "protest art" on the subject. There are people in the furry fandom with some sense of standards, but it's overwhelmed by degens and sex freaks
No. 1632455
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>>1632451Another example of the furry "is it okay to want to fuck a literal cartoon dog" discourse. This happens like every other month on Twitter
No. 1632458
>>1632453I'd love a furry thread but I feel it wouldn't fall under cosplay. A very small portion of the furry community is actually involved in fursuiting, most of the drama centers around art and occasionally "popufurs," furries with a lot of followers.
There is definitely plenty of gross fursuit discourse though, like whether its okay or not to wear a fursuit that has been used for sex in public. I could try to dig up caps if people are interested.
No. 1632469
>>1632455 >>1632451 such compelling arguements for their case. Wow, up until this moment I thought traumatising and rupturing the internal organs of animals was morally apprehensive and vile, but now I see it as totally liberating and simply an expression of one's sexual freedom. Go furry girlies, go get your assholes ruptured by a horse.
Furry porn truly is another form of prion disease isn't it.
No. 1632475
>>1630389I am super late but I only draw as hobby. I am still learning and not even close to most nonnies here. I want to become very good at it so i can draw my Pnp character, OC and the ones from my friends.
The problem is learning how to draw is extremely emotional tyring for me that and working a demanding job, plus taking care of my parents makes me often just not want to draw.
But I alway come back to it. My dream is that one day I will look at my drawing and say: "Yes, that is how I imagined my Character."
Which is stupid I know.
No. 1632515
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>>1631254> I mostly draw cute boys in military uniforms, with guns, tanks, aircrafts, monster boys, gijinkas etc./cbsg/ reg here, I have reason to believe that your work will be more than welcome both in the threads and discord (myself included, I'm very interested in seeing more military-related art!)
All art styles, skill levels, and types are welcomes so long as you are willing to draw.
>>1627073We have artists within the discord/threads with considerably large followings and interact without any issues. In my personal experience, the discord has only been welcoming and supportive. If you're uncomfortable then you're uncomfortable, but I do hope that if you ever reconsider, know that you're always welcome at /cbsg/ (especially since we're always looking for fellow foid artists to banter with)
No. 1632533
>>1632433>>1632470Well, there's a lot of fan artists for those Call of Duty guys on Twitter, so do as they do and ignore the critics. Some anons got super mad about the military thread on /m/ but that's probably because most of it is real photos of real soldiers. And the one or two moralfags in the /g/ husbando thread got shat on by everyone else. Most people here don't really mind cute 2D boys in uniforms unless you're explicitly advocating for specific real life ideologies or armies like a LARPer scrote, I'd say. Especially when said boys are from fictional countries.
Also I'm pretty sure no one would care about the theme at all if she posted her art on /ic/. Maybe on Twitter or even here, but certainly not in /cbsg/. Though personally I'm too put off by /ic/ to want to post my art there.
No. 1632536
>>1631197i flip through my sketchbooks occasionally and sometimes i show my gf what i drew and that's about it.
i like looking back on old pictures, often i like old ideas i had or details i drew even if my skill level wasn't as good.
No. 1632538
>>1631457>For example, I'm convinced the recent rise of lolishos in the west is directly related with the rise of antisWhile you wouldn't be wrong in terms of people just being contrarians, it is also the fact that everything had it's own space and you weren't forced to co-exist with everyone else. Western lolisho has always existed, but they were largely left alone if you didn't have an interest in that content.
Social media has done a lot of damage to niche and weird fetishes by trying to force everyone to be on the same website, companies swooping in and wanting websites to be clean for advertisers, etc. combine that with people whose only idea of social justice and protecting people are callouts online and it seems like there are more western lolishos than ever before when in actuality attention is just being drawn to them by relentless callout posts where the worst crime there is drawing lolisho while they defend antis who have actually done harm to children as just being "misunderstood" or "working on themselves"
For as weird as lolishos are, I remember reading an article "the myth of the safe adult" wherein a lot of prominent antis are just abusers in sheep's clothings and how people have basically been gaslight into believing the type of media or fictional porn you consume matters more than how you actually treat other people.
No. 1632646
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Would this kind of sylvanian family-esque art be considered furry? I have been seeing a rise of similar art on IG for the past year or so, but it surprised me that most of the arists (or at least the ones IG pushes onto me) are your run of the mill women.
No. 1632658
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>>1632646Personally I would say no just because it isn't smirking.
No. 1632676
>>1632658Not the fucking dreamworks smirk, lmao.
>>1632515NTA but I've also been curious about posting my boys there, but I absolutely super don't wanna be recognized. I'm kind of a nobody so I wanna give it a shot though; if it's as chill as you're saying it is, I might actually take a chance. I draw a ton of demon guys.
No. 1632724
>>1632646Are anons so against other art communities, even the SFW parts, and that they assume all furry creatures with anthro are on the gross side of the fandoms? This is just anthro-art. It's always been a thing, for decades. Before art, people were using dead animals in portraits and dressed them up in scenes. Do you
plan to draw penetration
porn, anon? Or have the rabbits dick out? Then what are you even asking about? You must not be 18 or something if you are serious.
I honestly don't see the issue unless it's shit like fake-dog piss drinker up thread. Even then, not all furry art is degen, especially when the issue is that you're putting so many human characteristics on characters meant to have human characteristics. I see people flip out about Lola Bunny pulling down her shorts in some fanart, but it's literally a human body with rabbit ears. No one is looking at that and comparing it to
>>1632646 and asking if they are the same. If someone was going to make NSFW content, I'd rather it be Lola and not anon's photo because there's barely any connection to animals when the character is so overtly humanoid.
There are different levels of anthropomorphizing a character too which is what I think makes it gross. If you're going to just make it so they are a thinking creature and still walk on all fours, dog as an example, that's gross. Drawing porn with clearly unanthro'd animals is fucked if it's with a human. Having to anthros fuck each other, isn't bad. Human with barely anthro'd character, gross. I don't know how to make this clear to anons at all because some of you seem to hyper analyze what is and isn't okay in art, but look at it from such a linear perspective that it throws out an entire community based on some shitty people in it. Mind you, I'm not even a furry. I just do art in general and you can't avoid the community, but humoid anthro art is not even a problem IMO.
>>1632658That's pretty unavoidable when you have them more human than
>>1632646 due to the placement of the nose. Especially on a dog or long-snouted characters.
No. 1632847
>>1632828This is such a bad reason to stay away from drawing furry or antrho art. There's RU34 for a reason. even the most SFW communities have degens. If you're going to limit your art to "But if this person uploads here.. or shares to
these people.." Look what the Nazis did with the swastika. A bunch of degens, in this case genocidal idiots, took something wholesome and turned it into a symbol thats only for hate. If you look at furry art and only see the entire community in that vein of "these are bad people", don't bother drawing then. Don't post. Keep your shit to yourself and don't complain that you can't find a community. This is no different that stay away from people you don't want to be friends with. This is right up there with anons complaining about not wanting people with bios with pronouns to ask them for a commission. You cannot avoid people desecrating your art. No different that you can't stop them from hating on it, even if it is the most SFW shit possible.
Some anons have the mentality of a 12-year-old when it comes to participating in online spaces. Maybe it's because I'm old as hell and have dealt with even the earliest of chatrooms, but gotta stop eliminating entire communities and then complain you can't make money or share your art.
No. 1632869
>>1632866Anon, take the analogy. You know what I mean by it. Don't nitpick it. Disney has also drawn furries and other shit, so don't watch them ever again because you'll be supporting furries. This goes for Warner Bros too. Most people in fandoms don't even interact with the entirety of the fandom. They usually have their own circle of people they follow or interact with who they haven't blocked. I don't know why anons keep going on about the entire fandom of something when that's not even half the truth of what interaction is as far as an artist goes. People like Sakimi don't even interact with their entire follower base because the artist chooses not to.
Anons are supposed to be adults. Act like it.
No. 1632877
>>1632869If that's the case then why does the furry fandom keeps bending over backwards in the most insane and retarded ways possible to make itself seem totally super amazing and minor-friendly and totally not full of sex pests and zoophiles? Sakimichan doesn't interact with her fanbase but she doesn't try to manipulate her own image either, she draws moid shit and owns up to it. The problem with the furry fandom is that it is filled to the brim with perverts and sex addicts who don't know how to act normal be it in public or online and they are a pretty loud portion of the fanbase but instead of doing something about those people the general furry fandom instead chooses to turn a blind eye and go "no but we're totally safe for minors! Just ignore the rampant fetish and porn and cub content everywhere that appears even if you make regular searches for content because some sex pests don't tag their content!"
So yes, they are ostracized and yes they deserve it. Not all furries are perverts indeed but there's A LOT of them in the fandom and the furry fandom is not safe for minors in any way and yet it tries to make itself seem like it without taking any measures about those degenerates.
No. 1632882
>>1632877It's not the whole fandom, anon. Upthread anons mentioned how they already have discourse amongst them between furfags and bestfags. I don't know what issue you have, but just seems like you want to hate on a community regardless and I'm not even defending the community, I'm explaining how communities work. Reminds me of people complaining that no amount of sexual art should be made by women because a man
might use it for porn and thus she is making porn and ruins all the female artists producing art. fandoms are only deemed 'dead' by people who don't know anything about the fandom. Just like a bunch of Homestuck retards
ruined Homestuck, but it was literally a minority of the fandom that was loud and obnoxious.
No. 1632885
>>1632882Of course it's not the whole fandom, it's a matter of image. The furry fandom has a serious image issue. Yes, there are good and wholesome and perfectly fine furry artists and fursuiters. And yes, there are many predators and porn addicts who only think about fetish shit. The problem is that just like with the Homestuck fandom, those bad apples are loud. They are loud, they don't tag their content, they don't keep to themselves, and they act out both in public and online if they get the chance. But the fandom, instead of trying to repair its image and keep reigns on the community just pretends those bad apples don't exist and tries to paint itself as safe and friendly when it's not. It's why "furry" has always been a term associated with sexual deviants, because the community doesn't do shit about its own trash and hell sometimes they even encourage it because Muh Freedom.
I'm not saying furries should stop drawing NSFW. I'm saying furries should admit that their general community is crawling with perverts and that the general community is NOT safe for minors because of the abundance of untagged NSFW content and adult pests being unable to mind their own business.
No. 1632911
>>1632877All of this. My main problem with furries is that they keep sweeping their problems under the rug and instead point fingers at other communities that are much larger and more scattered and have other sides to them than just fetish porn and grooming teenagers just so that they don't have to face how many of them actually want to fuck dogs or little children. Generic anthro artists drawing anthropomorphized characters or animals don't want to associate with furries or be called furry artists because the word in itself is so tainted with the weird sex imagery, sperm coated fursuits and con orgies, desperately trying to whitewash the furry community is a fool's errand. The damage was done in the 80's and any attempt at salvaging the reputation decades later will not work out.
As a personal anecdote, I've been around the internet and fandom spaces for two decades and I have never met a normal, grown up furry who wasn't a maladjusted sex freak or a drugged out sociopath or both. The only ones I would consider well adjusted are literal 13-year olds drawing their sparkledog OCs who eventually grow out of it or branch out to different endeavors, never embracing the furry lifestyle or the community. Even their autists are never the Rain man type harmless train enthusiast but the kind bugging artists online to draw their feeder fetish fursona shitting and pissing his diapers. Furries deserve all the hate they get and I don't blame any anthro artist who wants them to stay away.
No. 1632922
>>1632847I never said I stopped drawing, the skills I gained actually helped me to be a pet cartoonish as a part-time job.
I'm just not a part of that fandom now and understand why someone would be wary of the furry fandom since the ratio of normal people-creeps is in favour of creeps the majority of the time, that's all. I still gather with artists near me and maintain a few friends from my furry era, not everything has to be online (and even online, I just post while not tied to a specific community/fandom)
No. 1632940
>>1632882The vast majority of furfags are porn addicts and they are always casually bringing up sex and porn like their SFW art is inherently tied to NSFW shit. Like they don't even keep it separate, they all know their community is heavily focused on porn. It is assumed that furry is mostly a fetish and not just an innocent interest in anthropomorphic animal characters. That community is inherently into fetish shit. The only exceptions are those that are
specifically trying to distance themselves from the degeneracy and just want to focus on the designs of animal characters or storytelling. I don't know why you guys keep implying they're just as clean as any other fandom. If anything it's other fandoms that are getting more pornsick thanks to the internet, but furries have always been that degenerate.
No. 1633079
>>1633055>>1633062I might try if some more nonnies are interested, I'd be down for having non-lc users too but I wouldn't know how or where to promote it without getting raided by scrotes or twitterfags (which would probably bring unnecessary dramas still).
>>1633057The booru idea would be cute too! I just would find a discord server better for art and feedback sharing, or studying sessions and such.
No. 1633109
>>1632646The art style may or may not be kemono-adjacent (depends on what other stuff the artist draws) but this to me just looks like a random cute picture. If I were a normal Instagram user and saw this, I wouldn't associate it with furry.
Keep in mind that not all anthropomorphic animal art is furry. If it's true that these artists are completely normal women then that would make their art non-furry.
No. 1633118
>>1633109>not all anthropomorphic animal art is furryCan I ask what the diff is? Apart from mental illness and the furry smirk
>>1632658 kek. And the ugly style most of them are drawn in, Japanese furries can make them look a little cute at least. Asking cos I like drawing sylvanian family looking animals too and if anything don't want greasy furries to think I'm one of them if I post it online.
No. 1633125
can a
nonny help me out with the hair shading? i have no idea how to fix the shading and its driving me crazy. If anyone has shading tips i would also appreciate them, i really hate painting but i am trying to get out of my comfort zone.
https://litter. catbox .moe/hp1pgh.png
No. 1633127
>>1633113There was a female artist whose username escapes me right now, who used to draw cartoony straight porn in historical settings. It was a bit male-gazey but I digress. I believe she decided to stop drawing that and focus entirely on her SFW art, only keeping her NSFW account up as an archive. Her username had "snowman" or something in it.
>>1633123shut up furfag
No. 1633138
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>>1633135its not a reference it was a ss of my drawing, that's why i didnt wanna post it. I really wish this site archived then vanished the threads like 4c.
No. 1633140
>>1633118Furfags won't think you're catering to them if you draw cute stuff like
>>1632646. Some may find your art and enjoy it but they will probably know that you're not drawing for them and are not part of their community.
Just like scrotes will sexualize any female character, furfags will sexualize any animal character in fiction if they find out about and are attracted to it, but that doesn't mean every animal character is made with furries in mind.
So don't worry about that. Animal Crossing (an example of non-furry animal characters) has a ton of fanart by normal people that just think the characters are cute. They're mostly kept separate from the furry degenerates who sexualize the cute animals. They will not think you're one of them, but you should accept that doesn't stop them or anyone else from enjoying your art.
>>1633134NTA but I think links are only archived if you click on [Archived Copy].
>>1633133It's a fucking catbox.moe link, everyone here should know what that is, as people on every other imageboard do.
No. 1633142
>>1633138Anon, at least personally, I'm not going off site to try and find who you are or find your other art. Imo, I like your hair shading. A lot of people just color block, but you have depth and you are following highlights well too. Love your painterly style, anon, a lot of people can't do that as well as draw without hard lining which you also seem to be doing really well.
[you have 30 minutes to delete your post if you are concern, just watch the clock and hopefully other anons will have some advice for you too, but Im not kidding when I say I like your art. That painterly style Ive been tying to learn how to do better myself]
No. 1633145
>>1633140This is an imageboard, I don't care about catbox. A lot of anons don't want to click external links too and I don't think catbox is as common knowledge as you think.
Also like you said above about furries, for the most part, the SFW and NSFW sections are separate. Some people interact with people on the other side, but the entirety of being a part of the fandom you want is what you encircle yourself with. Anons don't want to be interacting with NSFW artists? Then block them and their fans. It's not hard to do. You can curate your audience.
No. 1633151
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>>1633142thanks, i am actually
>>1631254 so i dont really post anywhere. Your comments inspired me to eventually make a twitter or neocities gallery, but first i wanna get better at painting. I seriously cant understand painting, so i have been avoiding it until recently, i would love to paint like pic rel(but with anime boys instead of 3DPD, lol) but i dont know where to start with digital painting.
No. 1633156
>>1633151For me, at least for digital when I tried to do the same type of watercolor works through procreate, is always start with the form. Not just the layout of their perimeter, but you can use a really low opacity and block out their gestures and stuff. You kind of seem to be doing that a little bit already. The biggest hurdle I've experienced if just trying to figure out what brushes I like using. I can watch a ton of artists with their tips and tricks, but figuring out what feels good when I'm using my pencil isn't something they can help with. I've learned that learning digitally is a lot more self teaching while having another artist in the background and just background noise. Looking up now and then to see a technique and trying it sometimes.
Something you might have fun with is taking already existing older works of art like your picrel and blocking out the backgrounds. Try eliminating the people you see, get a clean background [which helps find the types of brushes you need for the painting] and then drawing in anime guys. People do this is portraits of cats instead of kings all the time.
No. 1633162
>>1633138>I really wish this site archived then vanished the threads like 4c.You know there are external 4chan archives, right? Until those are taken down or their hard drives crash, your /ic/ posts will forever be archived. Even if you post and then delete.
Anyways I don't know what you were so scared of. You art seems perfectly fine.
>>1633145>I don't think catbox is as common knowledge as you thinkThen stop saying "t-this is an imageboard!" as your excuse because, among imageboards, lolcow is the exception on both forcing its users to post a preview of a link and not knowing what the fuck catbox is. I understand it's this particular site's policy, but it's not general imageboard policy.
No. 1633190
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>>1633156thanks! that makes sense, i will try that from now on.
>>1633162yeah, but its very hard to navigate through archives if you dont know what you are looking for. But yeah, you are right. I dont plan on living off art anyways, so i dont care about being linked with lc.
>>1633163thanks, its actually a top view, but i might have screwed up the perspective.
Here's the wip if anyone has any more critiques, i really wanna get done with it tonight or tomorrow so i can shelve it and start grinding painting. Does anyone have a starting point? i feel very clueless about it since i have been skipping it until this year.
No. 1633203
>>1633190Oh my god this is so cute! I don't have any critique right now since I got kind of busy. But you can also post your art for critique in the Rate My Art thread
>>>/m/187240 Not everyone who uses /ot/ uses /m/ and vice-versa so you might get additional comments there
No. 1633227
>>1633193>Join our /ic/ thread! We want more fellow foid artists to banter with!>eww why are you calling us foids>d-don't police my language dramafag, I bet you don't even draw anything, we didn't want you anyway!!kek just admit you fucked up in that post
>>1633206Yeah. And if there are channer males in that server (>>1626030 said there were moids and they only got removed for inactivity) and that's the kind of language the women use for each other it just comes across as pickme-ish and annoying. Plus discord servers usually go to shit pretty quickly. I'm sure none of this will stop some nonas from joining but personally I'd only want to post in the threads, at most. I hate Discord and servers can get very clique-y, imo they're mostly useful to make friends, and I just want anonymous critique. I didn't even know they had a server until this thread, it seems unnecessary since the general was doing just fine and it seemed to have a good atmosphere.
(infighting) No. 1633274
>>1633118Seconding
>>1633260. Used to draw furry art a couple years ago and was a part of the furry fandom at the time.
"Non-Furry" anthro is usually more stylized and focused on the animal traits, in my opinion particularly the faces, hands and proportions. Those usually have the heads and faces following the animal's actual anatomy with some stylization. The hands (paws?) may not have all five fingers, the body proportions tend to be closer to the actual animal's with some stylization (ex. a small rabbit girl with a long torso but short arms and legs that are usually in the typical bunny rest position rather than standing fully upright). Females may have a curve on the bosom indicating breasts but never as actual defined boobs and not always either.
Meanwhile furry art tends to lean more towards human anatomy. Faces will have a more "human-like" build to better sustain human-like facial expressions, usually you'll have the character with full five fingers on each hand and the hands are closer to a human's anatomy wise, etc. The females will almost always have defined boobs even if it's not a mammal, the males may have defined pecs and abs like a human dude, the proportions will almost always look very human, you get the gist.
Of course it's not a hard rule, but in my experience that's where I usually saw the line being drawn. Anthro non-furries tended to stick a lot closer to animal features while actual furries did a more human approach.
No. 1633307
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Weird question, but has anyone else gone from being a tryhard grindset art school applying high schooler to a "art is for fun!!" adult with a job in a completely non-creative field?
I remember spending all my waking hours working on improving at drawing, I briefly was an Art Youtuber(tm) - and now, years later, I've done a 180 to now drawing my ocs that my 16 year old self would've decried as a Mary Sue to end all Mary Sues - all while having absolutely zero social media presence to speak of. Anyone else going through this weird shift, if not outright apathy??
No. 1633362
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>>1633307My view of art definitely chaged since i left art highschool and spend a couple of years in art uni. I still work in art, i can't really do anything else, i feel it's my destiny. But the absolute selfwanking mentality of the actual proffesional artists in academia opened my eyes to what's happening and i don't want to have anything in common with these people. These people are vile, selfish, closeminded and not at all about skill. The only thing they value is how many pages can you write about this white geometric tile that some old fart made. No joy, no skill, they are just preteding to know everything in front of eachother so they can compliment one another about how deep they are for making a cicrle out of floorboards, or drawing an unifineshed circle on a building. The higher you go, the more ridiculous this facade is. I've been taught in UNI by a man who's art was dressing up in a batman costume, having sex with a pregnant woman while being on ultrasound and that being filmed. Everybody pretended like that's some kind of epic society critiques or something. (For some reason i can't find the record of this performace on the internet anymore, maybe he finally realized it was creepy)
I left that hellhole and two years later i met a student of that UNI, she got extremly offended by me just saying that "This shit ain't for me", was almost yelling at me defending those crazy lazy teachers and then ran away. I could see them she was brainwashed by that system.
Now i'm free, i finally enjoy painting, drawing, explore the topics and techniques everdybody at UNI thought were cringe or something only esotheric fools do and i undesrtood the techniques in a way they never could for their egoism. I guess the world is the same as in Van Gogh's times. I'll never be famous or have famous exibitions like my peers because i can't serve the system. It's made to rasie a new generation of artists but they have to do the old generation's work and if you can't be brainwashed into thinking it's good, you'll get nothing. But that's okay for me, that's why i quit, i never wanted to be famous i just wanted to express something bigger than us and that something isn't a fucking floorboard circle.
No. 1633402
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>>1632646On this train of thought would this be considered furry? I know the artist does real real furry shit bc I've seen it but they also do this red wall style anthro stuff which I find cute. Would it be considered furry just by the creator or is it actually furry styled?
No. 1633413
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>>1633402I think this anon already answered your question
>>1633274Differentiate between 'tasteful' anthro art, ovopack is one of the example anthro artists that can make animal characters and still deliver a story behind them rather than a generic deviantart furry art tends to look like rainbow puke.
picrel for example, I don't play arknight but it's a widely popular mobile game with interesting anthro character designs.
fyi I'm not a furry, just have been observant of this community and their general inspirations. although I can understand anons who are repulsed by pornsick furries, the other anon is correct that you should just seek out to what you
really like and outright tell off anyone has made you uncomfortable. Just sayin'
No. 1633422
>>1633079i would be really interested in an art discord server
nonnie. i've always wanted to share my art with other farmers but being associated with this site when you post a lot of your art on twitter (and have a partial gendie audience..) seems to be a bit too risky for me. i think there's definitely an interest anyway since others keep bringing the idea up. worst case it dies, but at least someone tried it. for now i wouldn't promote the server anywhere else though. there's already proof that scrotes from /ic/ are lurking this thread and i don't want to risk any more.
>>1633307i've actually experienced the opposite. i always thought i'd only do art on the side for fun while working as a software dev full time but tbh the corporate world is sucking the life out of me and i want to quit so bad and just draw all the time. at least the thought of never having a useless meeting again is giving me a ton of motivation and discipline to practice and improve as much as possible kek.
No. 1633444
>>1633091First of all. Moids could prepare for it. For example… they could have their niece/sister/mother be on standby and when it is time for voice verification, they can just speak into the mic.
Secondly. How can you tell a moid is a moid as time goes on?
No. 1633467
>>1633444I don't think a lot of moids have that possibility, and it'd also be incredibly awkward if the introduction included a bit of small talk on your art goals and such, would they have to read a script? Have the scrote next to them suggest stuff? I don't know, it sounds very unnatural and easy to see through.
I have interacted with too many scrotes during my younger years and they mostly have no reason to be in female spaces long term without acting weird or gross, and it's not the same as being a weird woman either. lol
No. 1633473
>>1633307Yeah, I went from "art is fun" to the meat grinder that is trying to break in to the animation industry during college, and right back into "art is for fun". I hate that I wasted what felt like years of my time trying to get into an industry full of sloppy moids and pick-mes, when it was the same handful of artists getting those jobs fresh out of their expensive prestigious college and beyond. It was cliques all the way down and I hated every moment of having to waste time revising a portfolio and sucking up to people who gatekept the jobs and couldn't care less for anyone else outside their cronies.
Looking back with what I know now and the current landscape of the animation industry I'm laughing because I realize I dodged a serious bullet. I have a steady, decent job, satisfied and feeling more fulfilled knowing I'm making art I actually like now without the bullshit. If I'd actually pushed harder or got unlucky enough to break in to the industry, I would never have had the time or energy to make achieve what I've currently or recently accomplished.
No. 1633520
>>1633274>>1633260Ayrt thanks for the explanations!
I also agree with the other replies that degens will sexualise anything anyway so I shouldn't care what I post, I've been having trouble with that generally tbh and not just related to furries.
>>1633129I feel like you thought that anon was me. Oh nooo whatever shall I dooo the meanie nona doesn't want me in her club. K.
No. 1633687
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>>1633628@Kuroblood on Twitter, Chinese furry who does a lot of art for gatchagames lately.
Seeing people say they aren't a furry is really funny though, they literally have a furaffinity page that was active for many years lol
No. 1633773
>>1633767Imo, it's literally just NSFW community vs SFW community. I don't see much degeneracy in the SFW side, so I don't know what anons are doing wrong or if they are just hypothesizing the idea of even posting art and getting an interaction.
Fun tip, you can block people, anons. Use the function. Make your own curated community. You're not going to stop NSFW people from interacting with you.
No. 1633809
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What's in the head of these cutecore artists to make a lc mascot interpretation look so coomery
No. 1633823
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>>1633402>>1632646These are all furry art. Furry art is all about humanizing animals, making them act like people. Just because it's cuter, doesn't mean it's not furry. I guess anons would like to differentiate between "anthro" and "furry", but it's different routes to the same destination.
You don't have to associate with the degenerate furry fandom to enjoy drawing cute humanized animals. Drawing animal heads on human bodies is a common illustration subject as well. The idea of animals acting and having the same emotions as humans isn't an inherently degen concept. Moids will sexualize a toaster, they're the problem, not the concept of humanized animals.
No. 1633840
>>1633826this!
unfortunately the word "furry" nowadays is usually associated with sex deviants at best and zoophile predators at worst, so i fully understand why artists who draw sfw anthro animals would be reluctant to use that label. the moment you call yourself a "furry" people will associate you with the fandom whether you actually engage with it or not and people will have preconceived views about you as an artist sadly and not everyone is willing to work through that just to draw cute sfw humanized animals.
No. 1633896
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>>1633856@cloverykins on ig, posts 4chan mascot shit art and other stuff related to it all over instagram and thrives on the attention from people criticising her 4chanite larp, wait till she ruins the miner's mascot too bringing unnecessary attention to cc lel she probably doesn't even know there is one anyways
No. 1633954
>>1633422Like this
nonny, I'm more concerned about being associated with lc and being seen as a
tErF because of my social media audience I guess. If the art server gets made maybe don't advertise that it's connected to here? I also think it might be good to only invite other people via word of mouth kind of thing? Like we could rep people idk. Maybe too gatekeep-y and would kill the discord though…
No. 1634298
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>>1633896I found out about this artist recently because she got in drama with another artist I followed, every single person who 'trolls' like this is an attention whore. I hope she gets treatment for her severe BPD. Oh and also she's already screenshot this discussion of her and posted it on her story LOL
No. 1634358
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>>1634300Her drawings have no substance at all, it's all just for the aesthetics of the culture she knows nothing about just to get instagram likes from her other pretentious edgelord followers and to "own the haters she doesn't care about" lel sorry for derailing the thread with this
No. 1634427
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I hate when people call shit like picrel "art journaling", where they just collage some pretty paper and stickers, then add a girl sticker and some random inspirational quote sticker (that might not even be grammatically correct because they're Tim Holtz dupes from Taobao/Aliexpress stores). No theme, nothing of substance being journalled, just pretty collage for the sake of being pretty.
No. 1634538
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>>1634517Picrel is her and she's definitely older than 17/18, but yeah, you're right.
No. 1634582
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>>1634564>>1634570This is a screenshot from one of her stories kek
No. 1634602
Hi nonas, Im the same tard from
>>1630990 yesterday I got another message via Instagram from an empty profile with the pfp of an old lady asking me if I'm open for commission, I replied yes and she said she want me to draw an animal for $600. I replied knowing what was coming with a "Ok, send me a reference, I take Paypal only by the way" and she sent me a (surprise, surprise) rambling about how she can only send money through Binance and that I should definitely open up an account.
I'm not saying this is a scam but it's so fucking weird it happened two times in a row this week.
No. 1634613
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I found this artist whose style I sadly like but a lot of his subject matter is very young girls… He looks like he’s around 30. Is this weird or am I overthinking it?
No. 1634616
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What do nonas think of lore olympus? Was vaguely aware of it before but it fell in my radar and I like some of the colours, composition and backgrounds but the character designs are boring and mostly unrelated to the gods. Apparently the creator is a graphic designer which might explain that. And with Hades' design the mouth and nose are goofily close together I can't unsee Ice King x Princess Bubblegum picrel kek.
I don't wanna read the actual comic though, the story is the run of the mill "inexperienced sheltered good girl and older misunderstood bad boy" wattpad stuff (which is why it's insanely popular yeah, I'm just not into that)
No. 1634632
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>>1634613Jared Pedo vibes
No. 1634770
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>>1634517Sorry for bringing this artist up again but she just made a post replying to a farmer from this thread and she sounds so angry kek.
No. 1634775
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>>1634616>Ice King x Princess BubblegumFr
No. 1634823
>>1634464I have no problems with scrapbooking, but if no one can tell the theme it's kind of not art journaling, which peeves me.
>>1634475Absolutely, but the core part of journaling is to express feelings, I see these mish-mash of flowers and papers, random girls, and they expect me to think they're conveying the feelings of random quote sticker like "good things are coming your way" or "be thankful"? It's just so void of anything other than "ooh pretty".
No. 1634824
>>1634602I saw a reel about this, it's a scam where they "accidentally overpay" you with a payment method that will bounce or whatever, be it a dodgy cheque or a stolen card, the money appears to go through, you send them back the "overpayment" then the money they sent initially is cancelled.
So no money and you're out of whatever you sent back.
I think they pretend to be normal people getting pet commissions so your guard is down
No. 1634829
>>1631017If someone cancels a charge directly with their bank, that can impact their ability to use that card in future since the card is seen as compromised by a fraudulent charge, I only learned this a few days ago (after many times seeing advice given out about cancelling charges with credit/bank cards, actually a bad idea)
But 1. That's not what's happening, it's the scam I posted directly above
2. You are better not dealing with a customer who has payment issues, anything other than
your preferred safe payment method should be avoided. Even if they're not a fully fledged scammer anyone who starts trying to pay you in weird ways is most guaranteed to be a broke bitch or bastard who has no intention of actually paying you, or of getting the money back after receiving the goods. So it's either really bad or bad. Your own payment method of choice or bust.
No. 1634914
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I'm really into artdolls and just generally enjoy mixed media creations. I pretty much can appreciate anything crafty. But just like many art styles artdolls can get very formulaic so I've kind of been having a pleasant surprise finding different styles on my feed. And I'm starting to have a growing fondness for troll dolls. Theres just something about them that is so cute and whimsical and unlocks my inner goblin.
No. 1635002
>>1634627I think the creator hires multiple artists to work on it for her.
>>1634914I really want to get into art dolls. Do you make them nonna? Any resources you can share or artist recs? I don’t know where to start.
>>1634920That one instantly stood out to me…creepy
No. 1635407
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idk how to link the video because i'm retarded and i'm probably overreacting but her smug attitude made me dislike the designs more
>ironic "oh no i ruined them and ppl hate me"
>"uhm akshully i did a great job on the characters i designed"
>"let me tell u how character design for TV works u uneducated pleb, it wasn't even us who did it, they sent us ready designs"
>"i'm just here for a paycheck anyways"
like geez learn to take criticism and stop acting like a smug 4th grader
No. 1635619
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>>1635618ah, dropped the pic
No. 1635633
>>1635622thanks! I will try to do greyscale/color studies.
>I think the composititon is just a little awkward, but it's nothing you can pix now at this point without majorly drawing over it yeah, its my second drawing with any kind of composition, so its bound to be awkward for a while
>And are you okay with paintovers?totally! go ahead if you want.
No. 1635664
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>>1635002Ive never made a successful artdoll, I'm far better at sculpting than sewing so all my dolls have been fails. As for tutorials and help, theres not much you can go off of. Bubblyleaf and kaypea are two regular posting artists on yt, creatures of nat doesn't really post much anymore, and art of vaelys post very infrequently. The most advice/tutorials I've ever seen is on deviantart on old artdoll groups. It would be good to check there even though they are no longer active. Theres a ton of cool old school artists whose work to check out but I can't list them all. A bit of a sperg out but I put together an autistic collage of some of the artists I like.
Theres varying skill levels and styles.
Hikigane, steintroll, furrykami, litmade, red river road, gakman creatures, Noyra, sweetsign, lisatoms, and fuego fatuo who I follow on insta, theres also woodsplitter lee a pretty oldschool artist shown and riker creatures. I dont know if riker still makes dolls, there are old buyers beware of her online. Last I saw she has a Facebook. But you can look at her old stuff on deviantart. I also dont believe lisatoms even makes dolls anymore, I think I remember her posting that she was no longer making them for a number of reasons. Darkwood is also a super skilled one that I didnt add. Theres tons more but I cant think of them off the top of my head, the ones I listed are the more prominent ones that I like. Theres a ton of russian ones as well as a pretty good Japanese community of them that I dont know much about since I dont have twitter. I would greatly recommend looking at their old work to get a good idea of their skill.
No. 1635705
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>>1634919>persephone being sized like a literal child next to hadesPlus she acts like a child. A petite woman protag can be fine but she's made to act so naive, plus the huge age and size diff, I guess the author has a fetish. This redraw picrel made me kek
>>1631240Yep. I did a character design course and ofc there were gendies, including the classic short doughy tif and hulking neanderthal tim, and all their art is mid but one girl was especially annoying and I hope she's ngmi.
She's an enby twansmasc weeb furry fujo who used to be a regular lesbian with her gf before I knew her but they trooned together. She's so sheltered that the first time someone said her art isn't great she left class to cry. Now she's in animation school and judging by her posts can polish a turd but her character design is still high school tier. Very stiff and bland and she does the eyes hovering above bangs thing. The only time there seems to be improvement is when she does fanart, but ofc captioning it with awww he baby, he is my son uwu. This bitch is like 23 btw.
As time goes on I'm kinda actively wanting her to fail, am I a bad person kek No. 1636442
>>1635407They all look so boring and sanitised now, she might act all smug but she really did downgrade them, dressing them like tween nerds in 2013
(I should know, that was me in 2013 kek) and not like cool monsters so it's ironic to say these designs are for "teens today". Y2k is coming back sure but for juicy couture and low rise jeans, not for multiple awkward layers and clashing patterns. The only thing I like is the varying body types, though she made all their calves thicker than their thighs which looks dumb. And sadly the dumbest thing, they/theming Frankie, you can say does actually appeal to teens today.
No. 1636527
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>>1635407>i'm just here for a paycheck anywaysYeah, we realized you retarded fucking moron, if you actually cared about the characters and not just the paycheck you'll actually make them interesting and consistent. Lagoona which was one of my favorites now looks like it was colored by a fucking child. Why the fuck would you color a character related to water fucking pink??
No. 1636547
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>>1634914I love them too nonna, I'm really surprised to see that there's communities for them now and that makes me happy. My favorites are AnyaBoz and CreaturesfromEl/Ellen Jewett, though El does more sculpture and less mixed media these days.
No. 1636674
>>1636669I've never hosted a zine myself but I've participated in plenty and have modded two. Honestly to me it depends on how organized and diligent the mod team is.
Digital zines are "easier" because you don't need to worry about printing costs and physical merchandise, as well as not having to worry about stuff like the art being converted to CMYK for printing and not all artists will have experience with converting it correctly and yadda yadda. Digital fanzines are best for beginner zine mods and for projects you want to keep small either for money or time reasons.
Physical zines tend to be the public's favourite because everyone likes a nice fancy booklet with keychains and stickers and all sorts of physical merch, but organizing those is a nightmare and demands a team of serious and organized mods. It also demands quite a bit of money and not to mention time and dedication.
Talking about the fanbase, from what I've seen people tend to prefer contributing to physical zines because well, the contribution tends to be a free book and everyone loves some free merch.
No. 1636676
>>1636669everyone i know who has gone to appear on zines have only done so on physical zines because those usually have more money going on (in case it's a profit or half-half) or because of like
>>1636674 saod, free merch bundles.
No. 1636685
>>1636682(Samefag as
>>1636674)
You're welcome, good luck with your project. While physical zines demand some extra effort and responsiblity it does help to cut back on the merch. On most zines I've been in including one of the two I've modded the merch was usually the most time consuming bit particularly if it was shit like enamel pins. If you want to do merch then at best do one or two sticker sheets and leave it at that. The public loves merch but as you said nowadays it has become so excessive that it defeats the purpose of making a zine project if people have their eyes on the merch first. Not to mention to absolute slog that was not only having to go through artist applications but also all of the different merch ones and having to design which ones had styles that best fit which merch types.
Sadly I can't say much on the printing part execution wise as that task always belonged to a specific mod for that function so I was out of the nitty gritty.
Do you already have some specs decided, anon? Like approximate participant numbers, if the cover has to have any fancy material? Binding type? If the zine is A4 or A5 etc? Usually those things helped the teams I worked with in deciding better services because then we had more or less a plan and we'd only have to check prices later.
No. 1636706
>>1636685If I may say, I find the merchandising aspect of zines displeasing to be honest. I feel like zines of the now have a feeling of being far more commercialized and consooming based with the focus on excess of merchandise like pins, acrylic charms, stickers, plushes, etc. etc. rather than having a focus on the shared creation of fanworks with love and heart into it. I don't like it. Though that's probably because I love doujins so I prefer fancomics over anything.
As for specifications. I haven't sent out the recruitment form so I don't have an exact idea of the amount of participants. I've gotten interest but assuming there will be at least 4-12 participants. However regarding the participants submissions, those will be selected depending on the amount of participants and amount of pages each respective participant's submission requires within a <88 page limit.
I plan to keep it simple, so there will be a limited run of <40 books depending on the amount of orders. The size will be your run of the mill manga 5.5" x 8.5" size, 60lb uncoated paper, and a gloss cover.
No. 1636714
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>The show bible leakedI searched and found this? From the tidbits, apparently
>Clawdeen is gay>Cleo is ~pan~ (spicy bi) and will date themlet Frankie>new male character called Ian Pundulu who is gayComments saying it's fake but this account has another post of "proof", the pdf they got it from was dated 2021 and the author is Lauren Rose but idk if they edited that.
>>1636708It's a good marketing strategy, now any criticism can be waved away by diehard fans going nooo but they're so progressive and gendie pandering, they can do no wrong!
No. 1636844
>>1636838Yeah you'd hope they'd handle it just as another aspect of their character. But the story doesn't seem very complex, sounds like
>>1636761 has watched the show, so I guess it is just hamfisted. Make characters gay in a kids cartoon as as a normal, neutral thing challenge (impossible).
Like marceline and bubblegum, they're so cute and don't have ugly ass redesigns by someone who doesn't care about the IP. No. 1636902
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Looking at the dolls, the hair and faces are done better. Without the unappealing cluttered mismatched outfits they could be cute. Didn't like gen2 outfits either tbf. But then looking at the 3D models for the show, the art style for gen 3 is straight up ugly. And I read somewhere maybe they were trying to compete with Shadow High with the new softer babyish look?
No. 1637004
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Aspen_eyes has made multiple tweets exposing vani/luxebytes for still being a shitty person. Vani went private and hasn't made any real rebuttal other than "you guys are only listening to one side of the story" and something about her zodiac, or whatever.
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>>1637057>>1637058NTA but its basically pedo8 saying he regrets being a degenerate pedo even though hes still a degenerate pedo making loli and coomer garbage, and most of the replies being from his coomer fandom saying how its "perfectly normal" to have pedo thoughts from time to time, and making the same "lolis are just pixels" excuse. I want to kill these fuckers istg.
No. 1637119
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>>1625066This is absolutely fair to me. The leg guy is a weirdo for sure but how can the same people witch hunt them(her?) for posting art about their(her?) leg while retweeting cutesy or nsfw art about chopping their own tits off in the same breath
No. 1637135
>>1636902Gen 1 is the best. They’re unique and represent their monsters well. The transmutations to gen 3 focus on real skin color (like humanized ponies but without their color staying the same) and they’re too human except for Clawdeen is an anthro now.
I enjoyed the original designs but was too old for the target group, but I thought this and Every After High got cancelled for good.
No. 1637212
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>>1633151i know this post is 5 days old but if you want to learn how to start painting digitally you should check out marco bucci's 10 minutes to better painting series: (
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLmXZMqb_9sbNLM83NrM005vRQHw1yTKn) his stuff is really helpful and simple to understand!
No. 1637261
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I hate when I see an artist who's style I like but they're an obvious huge fucking coomer, even if they don't actually make NSFW art. E.g. Omar Dogan. It always leads to an eventual downgrade in art as well because they only draw to be horny.
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>>1635067Yeah you’re actually right, I still am going to start a nsfw twitter account. But I’m still improving my anatomy for the sake of my dignity as a artist.
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for any nonnas that post their art publicly: what do you get out of it? i've just started recently, and it's been helping me care more about composition/actually finishing pieces, but i'm trying not to care too much about stats/whatever (it is nice to get recognized though, but i'm trying not to make it my whole reason)
No. 1637362
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>>1637318I want to make money but I’m horrible with keeping up at social media. It’s hard to stay in touch with other art communities if you don’t have some online presence nowadays.
Posting Sakizou because she was an artist I looked up to in college and was pretty popular for Lolita-based art. Your image reminded me of her.
No. 1637365
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>>1637362Dumping a few more. She did a lot of themed fashion designs too. Fruits and gemstones were pretty big back then.
No. 1637381
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>>1637367Last one, I don’t want to spam. There’s something about old Japanese 00’s art that has charm. Maybe it’s because it’s traditional. Ocean in Space has her 90’s shoujo look but this reminds me more of josei or fashion design. I’d love to see a modern look.
No. 1637536
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how do you achieve nice figures in your drawings? I struggle with them feeling too stiff, specially when its poses that dont have an obvious or exagerated line of action. I really admire artists like pic rel who can make simple poses have dynamism and weight.
No. 1637632
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>>1637536A simple trick is to make sure the head, shoulders and hips are not parallel to each other. Like in picrel
No. 1637677
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Does drawing erotic content count as coombrainshit or nah? I generally want to draw out what happens in my head. However, a part of me feels ashamed about it since even implying sex is sinful in some places…
No. 1637692
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>>1637677i agree draw what you want
>>1637632thanks, now that i look at it its very mild but noticeable.
Also, fuck i love rkgk artists, i find their art way more interesting than the rendermaxxing anime turds that are extremely popular. I hope i can someday achieve this level of anatomy mastery.
No. 1637700
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>>1637692Couldn't agree more anon! It's much harder to pin down the fundamentals in a handful of quick strokes than to make a pile of dogshit lineart and sweep it under the rug with some flashy rendering. See picrel, it may look flat and plain to a layartist but to anyone beyond the beginner phase you can immediately recognise that the artist has a great stronghold on their fundamentals. I actually kind of want to start a thread solely for rkgk art on this site (although I'd probably take issue with art newbies sneaking their favourite tiktok artists' shit ass sketches in kek)
No. 1637708
Hey nonas, what resource would you for someone who doesn't have a lot of time/energy for rigorous practice? I work full time and draw to relax but I've recently hit a wall in my abilities and it pisses me off.
>>1637318This is wonderful, do you have source?
No. 1637712
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>>1637700>I actually kind of want to start a thread solely for rkgk art on this site please do! personally i love the rkgk that looks like a less refined anime still, like pic rel. I love how fluid it looks.
No. 1637749
>>1637708What do you wanna do? I know you said no rigorous practice but are you ok with slowly working on studies? That's also an option. You can slowly chip away with finishing art pieces too.
>>1637677Personally I put a line in between erotica and straight up coomer degen porn. Your pic rel is pretty close to erotica imo.
No. 1637777
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>>1637712Here's the link anon! Took me a while to figure out since I'm relatively newfag, but this should do the job.
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Does anyone know of an artist with a similar rendering style? i saw this study and fell in love, i love how ''seamless'' it looks.
>>1637785i would love more rendermaxxing artists with rkgk skills, but i think most rkgk artists are animators so they probably dont have as much time to dedicate to learning flashy rendering techniques. My goal is rkgk drawing skills with rendermaxxer painting skills. Its gonna be a rough journey.
No. 1637807
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>>1637791>”The jawline is not lining up from his ear to his chin”This tells me all I need to know about your anatomy knowledge, anon. Real people don’t have pointy jaws like a damn anime character, it’s clear to me that they’re representing the skin between the chin and the hyoid bone. As for the ear, it’s a sketch. An rkgk. Literally what we’ve been discussing. Representing complex forms with quick lines that give a solid general impression. It’s not supposed to be a perfect scientific study. I swear…
No. 1637814
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>>1637807you are not wrong but there is some funky anatomy because the neck is so much farther forward than it should be. this person is obviously skilled but they should practice laying down a skeleton foundation at least because they are not feeling it out
No. 1637817
>>1637545I’ll try not to fill up the thread but I’ll find a few more for you.
>>1637677That’s erotic and sweet. Pinups would fall into that line I think but no one does pinups anymore. I found one FFXIV artist who does and she only draws women too.
>>1637700What’s RKGK mean? Lines, animation, is it a company?
No. 1637819
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>>1637817The sheer use of black here is amazing.
No. 1637868
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>>1637814Doesn't rkgk just mean rakugaki as in doodle? Rough sketch? What's it being used as now? Just pieces that haven't been rendered to hell and back?
>>1637819So beautiful!! I remember seeing Sakizo's homepage way back. Another artist I liked was Kashima(Echo).
No. 1637912
>>1637807nta, but
nonnie, what? when we follow the jawline this "skin" is protruding too much, it looks more like the underneath of his jaw bone at an angle. and that'd mean the left side of his jaw is uneven, it's placed lower than where it should be. it's a nitpick ofc, but it doesn't disprove that nonna's sense of anatomy at all
No. 1637975
>>1637807Your jawline is connected to where the bottom of your ear, even if you have a soft jawline. They were trying to draw the jawline with that line, but it's too high up. I think they were going for a perspective where you see under his chin though, but the only thing that's throwing it off is the way the furthest eyelash is on the same level as the one closest to us. The lineart is really pretty though.
>>1637839I love this nona! Maybe add a link to adobe color for finding color palettes as well?
No. 1638034
>>1638018The issue with RP groups, particularly pre-established ones, is that I personally find them hard to get in. Everyone already knows each other and the lore going on as well as each others' OCs and not everyone is super mega willing to get to know yours or fill you in. Sure, there are some that do and that have nice people, but those are rare. Those groups also tend to become cliquey, particularly if there's any person that can be considered "popular" in the mix. Everyone flocks around them and it can be hard to RP if you're not "in". Finally, those spaces are ripe for drama. They tend to attract all sorts of delusional genderspecials who whine about anything and everything and are ready to start discourse, as well as attention whores and the occasional mary-sue-haver with protagonist syndrome. The list goes on.
Source: I've been in a total of 9 different RP groups across three fandoms. 7 of them faded into obscurity in less than a year. One is still kicking but it's a shadow of its former self and filled with cliques and attention whores, and the other is semi-active but not much, a bit cliquey also.
If you want to RP it's best to form your own little group. Grab some friends, make a server, and done.
No. 1638056
>>1638027Oh, I wasn't on deviantart so I didn't know they had such a bad reputation… But I also don't have friends that have time for or would be interested in such things, that's why I thought it would be easier and less embarrassing to find strangers that do want to ship OCs and whatever else.
>>1638034That's what I was afraid of, so I've mostly been looking at new groups with a pre-determined runtime, but I guess those could run into the same issues eventually. But was it no fun at all? Since you joined so many, I assume it must've been good at least for a while?
No. 1638083
>>1638056Samefag
>>1638034Some were fun, others were not. It all really depends on the people of the group and how much you're willing to try to fit in, as well as how much drama-prone the group is. For example I've been in one group that almost didn't have any drama, but it was super closed off because of how cliquey it was (it was a group open to public but the "core" was composed of people who were already friends so they mostly only chatted with and RPed among each other while the "outsiders" either struggled trying to keep up or RPed with each other essentially forming another clique). Meanwhile, that group I mentioned that's still up and kicking is quite welcoming and has a pretty big number of people, but it has discourse at least once a month because of that. During events it becomes extremely exhausting because of the amount of whining and annoying drama.
If you really wanna try, I'd say to first see if the people seem reasonable. Try to avoid groups with too many people, and try to avoid groups with minors as well. I say that because most of the RP groups I've been in that welcomed minors were so strict and prude that they might as well become a cult church already. Stuff like you not being able to mention "boob" on the chat without getting yelled at by a mod because "The minors!!11!! the server has childrem!!!". Also read the group rules. A reasonable group is going to have pretty basic rules.
No. 1638154
>>1638083I see! thank you for sharing your insights, I feel like I know what to look out for now. I'll just try one that seems good and I'll leave if the people turn out to be too weird.
>>1638100In my opinion it's only fun if you know the people you're drawing for. I used to revenge anyone as long as their characters looked interesting, but putting as much as 2-3 hours into a piece only to get a "thankss" from a stranger wasn't really fulfilling. Although other times you could tell how excited they were and that was fun, but it's not something you can count on.
No. 1638212
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>>1637800Consider how many hours of a day do you have free, or how many hours of a day are you willing to give for art. You can take inspiration from other people/master's schedules. Picrel is from "artist schedule" search on google. There's way too many things you can focus on (i.e gesture, rendering, line art etc) so that's for you to decide. Personally these never worked for me but sometimes you just need that little bit of push to and refocusing to improve and or enioy art.
No. 1638262
>>1637868I found her on IG recently, I’m glad she’s still around. The art you shared is cool too. Haven’t heard of her before.
>>1638154I would also look into D&D if you want to draw characters. That’s pretty popular right now but if you want your own world or something different I’d find a group of writers because they love making characters but most can’t draw.
No. 1638284
>>1638227That's what I'm most afraid of happening. I plan to join early but I tend to get overlooked in groups because I'm not very talkative and I have never participated in group RPs so I can't even imagine what they are supposed to be like and how to interact properly. I'm also afraid that most people will be american and that I'll get left out due to time differences regardless.
>>1638262I sadly hate D&D and most fantasy stuff and I have no idea where to even find writers. All the interactions I've had with some through other group projects and fandoms were kind of scary because they always seem so much smarter than me kek I never felt like I could make or say anything that's worth their time, even if they were nice.
No. 1638475
>>1638377>>1638404Yes! I absolutely hate this too. Ironically, even from a zero attention span point of view I still hate speed paint reels because it takes longer to look at a reel than at a drawing, and I can't even appreciate anything because the final piece is only there for half a second.
I don't even have sympathy for the "muh algorithm" point because insta artists are just way too ridiculously whiny about it. Speedpainters aren't even the worst at that because they just quietly post their speedpants, but those artists that are constantly making salty reels about how they don't get any likes is getting annoying.
Can't wait for someone to make a reel with that one sax audio dropping a hot take about how other artists are being annoying, so it becomes trendier to use the audio to virtue signal about how likes don't matter and the whiners shut up, and then the audio stops being trendy, and I don't have to see algorithm discourse with that exact audio 30 times in a row every time I open up instagram. No. 1638494
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>have vivid image of how i want drawing to look in my mind
>try to draw it
>it sucks
>original vivid image replaced with failed drawing
anyone else suffers from whatever this imagination vermin is?
No. 1638505
>>1638284To be fair DnD/fantasy isn't the only genre. There's others like Call of Cthulu with focus on mystery. There's also ryuutama, a japanese fantasy adventure game but the focus is on adventuring and helping. People also make homebrew. I'm not too well versed on ttrpgs but there's surprisingly a lot out there. The ttrpg I played was a homebrew and part of the issue was there's ten players playing on and off. It also demands you to be versatille because some players will care more about minmaxing than writing and your character development and tone will have to shift unless you want to drag it out kek.
That's another issue, I felt very autistic about what people's intentions are for RP and makes it awkward and longer (if realistic) to RP out a scene compared to when you write it yourself. Maybe I'd have a better experience if players were capped at five but I personally don't feel like seeking out more games.
Lastly years back there were forums for manga/comics naking I joined and people were looking for collaboration or just an artist. There's also forums dedicated for looking for RP partners/groups. I just googled them.
No. 1639526
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This is a redraw I drew of an old drawing I did back in 2021:
https://files.catbox.moe/lk5d35.gifI've been drawing ever since I was around 4 years old, and now that I'm 20 years old, I'm starting to question whether or not I'm even a real artist. As a kid, I would often make my own comics and create my own characters, but that started to die down as I got older. Ever since I started posting my art on social media, I can't help but to feel jealous of all the artists I see whose art skills are WAY better than mine. Bonus points if they're younger than me. When I was around 14-15 years old, my art was fucking terrible:
https://files.catbox.moe/o6e4o2.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/7db0nn.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/4skmoh.png https://files.catbox.moe/212qv5.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/iaum0y.jpg It looked like some crappy art you'd find on one of those bad art Tumblr blogs. Just looking at my old drawings makes me cringe.
Considering my art skills back then, I'm surprised people around me actually liked it. My family, friends, classmates, and teachers seemed to like my art, no matter how bad it was. I've always dreamt of pursuing some kind of career in art, but I don't know if that'll ever happen. I'm a HUGE perfectionist when it comes to my artwork. I get frustrated way too easily whenever I make the tiniest mistakes in my artwork, I go days, weeks, or even months at a time without drawing anything due to art block, and I would delete, throw away, or outright abandon my drawings out of fear that they might turn out like shit.
At this point, I'm debating on whether or not I should quit art. Maybe art just isn't meant for me. I might as well just quit art and pick some other hobby to hyperfixate on. It's not like I'm going to be the next Salvador Dali anyways.