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Lolita Lolcow thread #5 "Everyone too scare to make the thread" Edition
Previous thread >>109410
Sage your non-milk posts. Being fat and or ugly, while hilarious, is not milk by itself. Lying/shooping yourself excessively to hide that you are fat and ugly and crying about it when caught is milk.
Some milk recapped from last thread:
>Andrea is outed as a diaperfag sissy, shocking no one
>Hanikami.bear is anachan, shocking no one
>Bondage-chan is a camwhore, shocking no one
>Cadence Kato thinks she invented beaded necklaces with candy motifs
>purestmaiden/wonderfinch harasses Lovely Lor for accidentally clicking like on some pic of someone at a trump rally, so people dig up her pro-ana blogs and her gushing over Die Walkure and she posts a half-assed "apology", shocking no one
>Briz Blossom hyperfixates on her follower count, entertains delusions that someone is "deleting" her followers by hacking her account
>neorococomemes, unfunny ita, has hate boner for Victoria Suzanne for some bizarre reason
>It's Vanilla Bear/dreaming.vanilla has a baby and is obnoxious about it, that's literally it that's the whole "milk"
>tokimeki.bunny posts about breeding kinks, being anachan, starting an onlyfans, and public rants vagueing friends
>angelfazce/sexy baby/bloated corpse chan continues to commit sins against the sighted community
>CHANEL/chanlleydoll RETURNS feat. blouse she literally dyed brown with pit stains
>NaturallyRacist (naturallycute/dollqt/Jenna) made an onlyfans where you can see her flabby belly and greasy bangs
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Alright, which one of you assblasted poorfags is this?
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they're the plague doctor ita posted at the end of page 22 of that thread, hence why they got salty and more or less stopped posting
everything they've posted in that thread was basically vendettaposting about people who banned her from groups/discords for being extremely openly racist
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we are off to a great start!
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I'm so glad anons here are talking about this seething clown.
Talking all that shit in some cut up bedsheets, lmao.https://kiwifarms.net/threads/lolitas.11331/page-22
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I present to you… the Saga of Scalperchan. I left out a lot of non-lolita related milk about her personal life that she has posted about on her blog, let me know if you'd like a compilation of that as well. Happy Easter!
Oh gosh I remember reading about her on cgl
So she sold the dress with a little profit though I think it’s not too crazy to ask for 300. she could’ve tried for 500-600$ like she said or tried with the restyle skirt
kek i just saw. funny how they're furiously masturbating each other ITT and autistically screeching at anyone saying the truth. Just goes to show how much they lurk since they're unemployed. Their clique is retarded>>143992
whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night
was going to screencap but it seems like piss chan and her gang reported all of the post exposing her as piss chan and the whore who posts pics drooling over herself while wearing lolita.
they are so incredibly bothered by it it's hilarious
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here since you hoes cannot be bothered.
for people crying samefag they sure samefag a lot. the coord wasn't exactly bad but they were being so autistic it drew more attention to it
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all those deleted replies…you can tell someone was real pressed
i didn't know her but her and her gang are deeply deranged>>144035
sage your infighting autism. also proofs or gtfo. gj outting yourself as one of those retards by having to defend the fact they aren't jobless btw kek
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Apparently this girl was mad that AP “stole” her gummy bear design as an uwu small business
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For comparison left Jelly Candy Toys by angelic pretty and left her design
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Her sketches look like a 10 year old drew them
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looks like a bad splice kek
her legs look the same in videos
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Jo* has got some serious body dysmorphia. The shoop is getting ridiculous, i think she is very pretty in an average lesbian way. But when she shows up on my feed with her nose collapsing its kinda disturbing.
Its a photo of herself cut together to create a twin look, they are both her. its just not lined up properly.
she's exactly as you described it. pretty in a lesbian way. there are many kinds of pretty and girls seem to forget that. even homely is a kind of pretty.
she got to stop shooping her nose this way, her laugh lines are not even that noticeable and bring something to her face imho
newfag what do you even mean with "very pretty in an average lesbian way"
I like her stuff but when I saw this I also was a bit eh, let's just say it's very obvious.
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Is this that UK scalper? Her floor and bagged AP plushies look like those listings on LM
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Nevermind, i answered my own question. Her photos further down have her other my melody mat that matches the one for schk_ho. Kek she's a fat brand ita
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That would make sense. I don't have any experience with that kinda stuff but would it fuck up the pavement between the clones shoes that badly?
She definitely has long, thin legs but is it me or does this picture she posted a month ago with the tag #bodypositivity look really suspicious around the right knee?>>144946
So is a years old insta post the only example we have of her "modeling"?>>144995
Nayt, but imo it's not whiteknighting to point out common sense.
she very obviously shoops, none of the lines line up in here or >>144832
and everything near her legs gets out of focus/grainy looking (or straight up distorted like the pavement), 2 very obvious signs of photoshopping.
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have you ever seen a crosswalk curb
does anybody still have caps from her pinterest thinspo board?
That girl has some serious body image issues. Also, if you look at photos of her posted by other people she doesn't look nearly as skinny. She definitely shoops her legs at least.
How about I go to the same intersection and take a picture of the curb so we can all be sure kek>>145048
Have any examples of those photos from others?
>>145056>Anon just Google street viewed her location. Holy Hell lol.
Lolitas continue to exemplify textbook mental instability.
The wiggly pavement somewhat makes sense in context of the ghetto curbside, but that doesn't mean she didn't shoop. In fact, she relies on bad edits to cover her tracks.
That said, can we stop giving her attention now? She's edgy and shoops herself skinny, so does half the (online) lolita comm. She is nothing but a posturer and you're all playing right into her game.
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I fear no man… but Lolita…
𝐈 𝐟𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦.
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Is that the skirt she said she sold for $233
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Vaccination drama incoming.
I wonder if the community is that dead, that drama is being made over shit like this.
Not saying her joke was the best, but I feel like this is clearly an overreaction.
Person in the picture is @ larasuzanne
Sorry for the bad crop
It sounds like they got triggered
by her calling herself a hot bish so had to scramble to try and be offended about something.
Is this the same person who got called out by neororococomemes bc she posted BLM in pink aesthetic?
If so, why does everyone have vendetta against her?
no, but it's obviously a joke>>145145
you are on lolcow right now
I'm not whiteknighting the tiktok blob in the screenshot, I'm hating on the retard who got offended over literally nothing
Does everyone in this thread have amnesia because she was posted in the last thread. She's out of touch and efame thirsty but has panic attacks when she's talked about negatively.
Bragging about which vaccine you got is dumb as hell and why would you wear lolita to make a tiktok about it.
If you feel degraded because of a dumb joke over which vaccine you got you should maybe take some time off the internet.
Her take was shit, but I really can't understand people getting assmad about it.
either you’re kuri/kuri’s friend, you’re too autistic for this board, you’re posting bait, or all of the above.
Obviously nobody gives a fuck about which vaccine you get as long as you’re informed. It’s a tiktok joke and she’s a tiktok-er or whatever. Get some thicker skin.
It's not anyone else's fault that your skin is so thin you're offended by some mentally-forever-teen's lame joke
You would have to be literally autistic to not be able to identify that as a joke, there's even emojis
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Agree, I mean who would defend this?
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this "joke" is retarded, but it is even more retarded that some retard got offended/mad about it. I can't believe how fragile and victim
-y so many people are in the world anymore. Do people realize that focusing on things that make you upset, or constantly finding things to be butthurt about just makes you feel miserable because you focus on the bad and see it everywhere? Try logging out and focusing on something positive. No wonder we have so many mentally ill faggots. I love the internet and have been around on it since the mid 90s, but I really do thing that normalization of it was a huge mistake.
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You can’t convince me Lara isn’t a troon. In that pic she has the receding hairline of a male and one glance at pic related and you just know this isn’t a biowoman(troon speculation derail)
Why don't you ask her yourself so we can know once and for all, nonny
? Oh right, you won't because you're a pussy
nobody is whiteknighting still
, now we're harping because you're so obsessed with defending an attentionwhore crybaby trying to score woke points and cancel some literallywho
you are making her look shittier than the edgelord
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this is a transformation. leave fashion, join bodybuilding
looks like spray tan
I mean it actually looks like gross paint, but it's probably spray tan
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It's not a real tan all she has to do is shower it's apart of the competition
They all do that
I'm not even a bodybuilder it's common knowledge
nayrt but>it's common knowledge
no it's not??
anyways, let's stop being autistic about bodybuilding sluts and get back on topic: i see bdp camwhore chan finally vanished. Didn't take her long and thank goodness
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She made two posts about almost getting every item in the JCT release (She did wind up getting all the socks too). I bet she's just going to scalp it all in a few weeks.
I love this, I did something along those lines except that I got too fat for unshirred AP and rather than consistently worry about my weight, I rolled with it (haha..) and am now a national record holder in powerlifting.
Good on her!(nobody cares)
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Our favorite munchie uwu Lolita is out again
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You’ve just committed the ultimate sin. Go think about what you said and try again.
I miss this kind of content so bad
Brings me back to the deerstalking era
Hope you eventually peak, unless you are tranny/scrote then hope you get banned
this reminds me of the deerstalking era especially with the British accent
that's when I first found out about lolita I'm sobbing
unironically kind of like this
it's at least better than the mc melody doll one
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Has anyone seen our favorite ana-lita is a satanist? kek
touch some grass anon, most normal people have a little bit yellow colored teeth. the white teeth you see on the internet is almost always fake/edited
and like >>146219
said, tea stains a lot
shes right lolitas are all retarded spergs
she used the wrong word to describe the kawaii thing and tyler made an awful video using this goth girls fuck up for drama.
she could have labeled it with any other subculture and never have received the same amount of autistic spamming
if her goals were to bait lolitas she would have actually known what lolita really is.
Sorry to break it to you, but most places in the world don't bleach their teeth to death as Americans do. Teeth aren't naturally white.
Hate that video tho, that person looks like some crazy male junkie from an American TV show put on a lolita dress kek.
Yeah see, if Dorian was wholesome content creator who made a mistake and was attacked by ebil roritas I'd agree. But Dorian always tries to show how cool and unbothered she is, how she can poke fun at goths and non-goths alike. So adequate responses would be to either engage lolita comm genuinely and apologize/change the name of the vid/add a pinned comment "yeah, that's just a dressup, not representative of lolita" or ignore those comments and Tyler's vid and maybe sometimes make fun of the situation. Hell, she could even keep on being snarky in the comments I guess.
Even if lolitas are unhinged spergs, she is the one who decided to get their attention. So she doesn't get to play the victim
now. If you look at Dorians older transformations, one of the purposes of them was always to poke fun at the subculture they represent. So what, she can make fun of people,but if they respond it's not okay?
can someone tldr I hate listening to her talk.
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>Makes a video mention L community every 5 seconds
>Gets PTSD from mentioning L community
>Talks about how she wasn’t being that serious in her Lolita transformation video
> L community triggered my eating disorder
>L community gets triggered in comments
> Backtracks it in the comments that her video isn’t about the subculture but, online spaces in general
>accused ringleader Tyler and the L community of slut-shaming, toxic femininity, misogynistic, Shadiness, and more.
>thought the subculture was feminism
>blames Tyler for using that suggestive Lolita pic out of 2000 on her Instagram
The level of Autism is amazing
Insufferable. Thanks for the recap. Seems like a grown woman making herself a victim
to her followers instead of just ignoring it.
Thought she was talking about 4chan or kiwi at first. ref https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/78385157/
But I think this is the snow thread she referring to in the video
Good ol durian. Don't barge into our community which you know nothing about then cry "b-but the buwwies!" when lolitas correct you in a non ass kissing manner.
Now Lor is offering an olive branch in the comments section saying how mean the community can be. If they hurt your feelings so much, leave. Stop making lolita videos if the people watching yours are so mean and judgmental.
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>”I also experienced hate in the L community”>created salty videos and badly criticized others which, made them quit lolita.
That’s not very lovely, lor.
Imagine being held accountable for your actions.
If YouTube is your job be better at it. If you do something shitty at any job you will be called out for it. Hell, if you’re in school are are supposed to write a research a paper and just bullshit the entire thing your teacher will give you a failing grade.
It’s obvious they have never worked a real job a day in their life and were probably a poor student. The ignorance, entitlement, and stupidity is that pervasive.
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>calls herself kawaii autistic
>complains about symptoms of autism
>grew up in a shitty home
>airs out her shitty life on her fashion account
>constantly whining about how her life sucks
Why are people/Lolitas like this. Personally for me it’s hilarious because it’s borderline snowflake behavior just like MK kek but bitch why? Do they think anyone cares about you?
not that milky but why do the girls that insist you use he/him pronouns towards them gravitate towards the very pastel sweet lolita styles. or even just lolita at all. it seems to be a trend i've been seeing on instagram and it baffles me because surely you're just setting yourself up to not be seen as a man at all>>148710
on one hand i feel like parts of this are true but on the other hand it's all just bullshit for internet pity points. i really don't think your mom made you sleep on the floor but if so then yeah like the other anon said, this shit is for your therapist not strangers
someone already said it; that it’s wanting “privileges” of men but responsibilities of neither. transitioning is actually difficult and expensive, why do that when u can just tell people to call you a he and go about your day like ain’t no thing
that or internalized misogyny, or both
this person also posted to BSoLF wanting to buy AP Be My Valentine $50 under retail when it came out
sage for no caps because it looks like it was deleted after they got (rightfully) screamed at
I actually 100% believe it. Social workers see some fucked up shit anon. Some really fucked up shit. There are really disgustingly awful people in this world that should never be parents. >>148710
Is English her first language? It doesn’t seem so, so I’m gonna guess she’s probably euro? She really needs a therapist either way. This is incredibly sad. Autistic people over-sharing trauma like this is indicative of some kind of mental distress.
we're in a discord together and she's kind of a mirella may/French ana chan-tier AP autist. she whinges for prolonged periods of time when she misses out on something and seems to buy compulsively every week (more than your average lolita).
if what she said is true, it's sad and kind of explains why she's insane. anyone else notice a lot of mentally ill flakes becoming extra prominent during COVID?
first some concrete stuff:>she got her mom into lolita (ig @princessmonikamay)>lives with her mom>claims her boyfriend kidnapped her and held her hostage for a prolonged period of time>is bi or a lesbian now (girlfriend ig @ennuidrift)>friendly with French ana chan>buys new AP weekly/biweekly
i'll try to find caps of the bf stuff later but if someone else is friends with her on FB, go ahead. this is my speculation but i don't think she's wealthy. i mean, she's not poor by any means, but her furnishings, house, and normie clothes don't say "wealth" to me. i think she just spends every dollar (euro) she has access to on Angelic Pretty and nothing else. it's easy to be wowed by her collection, but many lolitas buy new brand just as frequently–they just don't flaunt it quite as much.
call it $500 every other week, give or take $100. i don't know how she's getting her money, but that's not a lot for someone with an okay salary (at least in the states, sorry euros i don't know about your economy)
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I thought she must be “rich” or really well off when I saw how much JCT she got I think two main pieces and tons of accessories. However I saw her post her ~favorite Gucci dresses~ Kek
Not sure if she’s actually in a relationship with that girl since they live in different countries. I think they just hang out together because they’re both spoiled. Her mom in lolita though omg anon
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got a few screens to support some of the earlier post. a preemptive apology if mirella isn't milky to some of you, but i find her bizarre and she has a large presence online rn
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yeah i think they're just e-dating, but mirella says they're engaged. she's also posted about being sent lolita and stuff from her so i think they're serious(ish)
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and to complete the bingo card, she has mysterious health issues that she likes to post about
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yeah these are just her FB posts on her own profile. i wouldn't doubt her being ana, but picrel. she makes it sound like she has some kind of chronic illness
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Risking getting kicked for posting this but WF keeps giving newbs shit coording advice a la her bad taste and I've had it
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WF is the red on both of these
LMAO this machine checks your oxygen levels. Is she a munchie?>>149524
What following? She spams COF. I'd hardly call that having a large audience.
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Laceferatu is apparently kicking the bucket on lolita. Probably has something to do with all the drama she had some time ago and covid or whatever. Anybody think she is gone for good and will sell her shit (she has stuff that i want, i would prefer this personally) or will she make a u-turn in a couple of months on her decision?
Could it be gasp
the man she cheated on her shrek boyfriend with, has no money to spoil her anymore? Should have stayed with old fathead
This video made me so fucking mad. How she is too stupid to get the whole deal of the book is beyond me.
I feel like she's taking out her anger on the book, just because the fashion was poorly named the same, only it came up much later ofc.
All the comments are just as brain dead. Seems like very few people can cope with controversial literature anymore because of sjw hugbox culture.
Sage for sperging, I'm sorry.
>>149899>one of the greatest books in history
you should be ashamed for typing that sentence out. >>149920>i-i’m just being sarcastic!
do you even know what sarcasm is
Lmao are you retarded? DDlg is sexy toddlers and I'm not a pedo.
Books can be well written and still have a topic that is disgusting. Lovecraft was a fucking racist and antisemitist yet his books are still good.
There's a reason you have to separate art and artist.
Of course we can argue if a book is "good" or "bad" but this will go nowhere because it is so highly subjective. Some points she made are perfectly fair, but it adds nothing new to a discussion that has been going on for literal decades. Also her confirmation bias is showing big time. The video just feels oversimplified which doesn't sit right with me, but what did I expect.
I thought she was 'cancelled' anyway after her weird reaction on Lors controversy.
Generally it's not a bad thing to analyze the book and explain why it should be read critically but WHY would you do that as a lolita, someone who wears a fashion that literally shares its name with the book? (she didn't even bother to explain why lolita fashion is called lolita fashion, how tf are people outside the community meant to understand that it's a different thing/really not associated with the book)
Pedophilia is like the last thing lolitas wanna be associated with yet they always bring up this godforsaken book
If by research you mean sources that conform to her biased opinion rather than discussing it from many viewpoints then yes, she did.
This thread is full of Tyler stans an WKs holy shit.
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Ngl this comparison made me kek
>>149967>Pedophilia is like the last thing lolitas wanna be associated with yet they always bring up this godforsaken book
I think it's because due to regularly dealing with ignorant know-it-all normies who insist the fashion MUST be connected to the book, we're forced to think about it more than pretty much anyone else. I honestly probably wouldn't have read it if not for it being cited to me by too many arrogant pricks who hear the name of the fashion and refuse to believe they're not related.
I will never understand why the western community has never made a real effort to change the name of the fashion. Now it would be extremely hard, but it really wouldn't have been much of a challenge pre-2010 when the community was still really small. Every time it was brought up it got shot down. So fucking frustrating.
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>>149922>Seems like very few people can cope with controversial literature anymore because of sjw hugbox culture.
There were comments literally saying how we shouldn't make hs kids read books with unpleasant subject matter because it ~might trigger
why do you think rape stories and pedo daydreams are important enough to be mandatory reading in school?
Are you unaware literature that doesn't rely fully on shock value exists?
I also wish lolita could have any other name but even then people would still associate sweet with ddlg or age regression shit.
I remember some lolitas who changed styles with time saying that sweet gets the most attention, be it bad or good, while gothic and classic are often left alone in public. I never wore sweet but i really don't doubt their experience of it being treated like a fetish more often.
My gripe is less about Lolita specifically, but the fact someone brought up Wuthering Heights and basically said "people shouldn't have to read books about anything that could ~trigger
~ them" which would apply to pretty pretty much everything.
Tbh I question if she actually read the book because she convieniently leaves out the numerous times it's made clear, even through Humbert's biased unreliable narration, that the reader is meant to see Delores as a victim
of abuse and Humbert as a predator. Just a few examples off the top of my head…
>mentions how Humbert hears her crying every night>how she's trapped and has nowhere to go so she's stuck with him>she bleeds so badly the first time he rapes her that he has to buy her pads>after the first time he rapes her, being in the car with her is like "sitting next to the ghost of someone I just killed"
With that logic we should also stop teaching about the holocaust, since that's pretty horrible and we might as well ban crime fiction next, because it capitalizes on the brutal killings of people. >>150008
It's painfully obvious she hasn't and I feel like she's lowkey trying to defend herself in this thread too
when the holocaust is taught it isn't done to children living through it, unlike CSA.
Holocaust studies are always adapted and academic in nature at schools, I don't know, maybe yours is an exception but I don't recall having to read a book from Dr. Mengele's perspective, detailing how he created horrifying human experiments and how much he hated Jews.
Maybe at your weird school that happened, maybe they forced you to read books on how Mengele smelled blood and lymph but most others did not have that experience.
Exactly. I love how Nabokov writes (not just Lolita, but also other things - Pale Fire is a masterpiece). Lolita is such a tour de force because everything is seen through the eyes of a monster pedo, and the reader has to grapple with his/her own revulsion, Humbert's alternating revulsion and obsession, and the reactions of the other characters. And all of this is tied up in extremely artistic prose.
It's not a book one can really casually talk about as a masterpiece, but I can't help but be amazed that the author produced such a work.
She took it out of context to fit her opinion about the novel. In particular one of the interviews was with a critic who was weird in his own way and isnt the type of crit I would take on at face value, but Tyler was too lazy to research who the man even was. Its this half asses research that gets her in trouble again and again, she never actually does any deep dives but pretends she did. She is too stupid to realize she doesnt have the chops to do deep dives.
Also she didnt actually research the author much because if she did, she would have found out he was a CSA survivor himself. Which is why comments like >>149935
are bs. There are tons of actual critical pieces about the book and its influence in society and Tyler could have spent some time engaging in it.
Instead she just wanted to call a book that wasnt about unicorns and bunnys bad and the author a pedo because she was made to be uncomfortable when reading it.
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Just saw this pic of Tyler on KF. God, she looks so much better in a wig. Girl needs to go to a salon and have them fix her awful hair. It brings her appearance down by so much and with that face, she really doesn't need anything else working against her.
>>150067>Instead she just wanted to call a book that wasnt about unicorns and bunnys bad and the author a pedo because she was made to be uncomfortable when reading it.
This. It's made so much worse by the fact Nabokov was a CSA victim
and elements of the book were from his own experience. Something she somehow missed, despite her "deep research".
Do you think by 16 trauma vanishes or something
It's a great book but it's stupid to force girls to read the pov of a pedophile destroying his victims
life and trying to justify himself. Almost all women i know had something gross done to them by adult men starting when we were kids or pre-teens, it's unnecessary to make them relive it when there is no shortage of other good books
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Next thread pic plz
Seems she's busy reporting posts about her on /cgl/
Good thing whomever dropped her divorce record on kiwifarms showing her legal first name is the most embarrassing weeb name also posted the archive link.
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Anyone see this?
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Came here to post this oh shit!
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Apparently it got resolved and the girl gets her stuff
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She is also supposedly defending herself on cgl
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Enjoying all this tea/milk
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This is exactly the way she types so I believe it’s her. Picrel is from a girl she sold one of her stolen dresses to. She only refunded the money after she got caught and confronted by the buyer
I'm in no way trying to defend this person. I've also never ordered from a shopping service.
It kind of sounds like the service should be handling this, if they delivered the parcels to the wrong address. Did they put the onus on the customer to try to get the parcels back? That's so weird to me
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What a surprise, Pastel-Pinku, the girl whose tumblr is dedicated to calling out "scalpers" and crying about how she can't function in normie world, is a scalper herself.
And she is scalping a defected AP ring, no less.
Although, I don't think the SS should go without blame either. It is really not that hard to safegaurd against such a serious fuck up. I'll tripple check the address to make sure it belongs to the user who ordered it even when I only have one sale at a time just to be certain. If you're a SS handling many orders at once, you should be that carecul at a minimum.
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Confirmed to be Bellshrimp
This is pretty much cost price after shipping to the UK & paying taxes
Whether she’ll manage to sell it at that price is another matter, but I’m sick of burgers screaming scalper at anyone selling something a single yen above the Japanese RRP
Well LM is about 80% Europeans & North Americans and the latter have an absurdly high tax-free allowance, so that’s hardly a groundbreaking observation
Pricing to sit on the market for a year =/= scalping
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Were the threads on cgl deleted???
Im from a country that gets customs often and no one does that when reselling. It is only the Euros.
Its part of buying things from japan, you accept that your country will make you pay for things and use a SS to mark down to avoid it. >>152400
You can when you lie about the extra charges and use it to just mark up stuff.
>>152372>I’m sick of burgers screaming scalper at anyone selling something a single yen above the Japanese RRP
Op here. Make no mistake, I don't care at all if someone lists things above retail.
But this seller who is aka Pastel-Pinku often dedicates her tumblr to call out posts about people doing the exact same thing.
as an anon interested in esl and language learning, the sentence structure is inconsistent. When Zoe writes it feels awkward because she doesn't fully grasp the grammar rules that are second nature to us, but when the larper wrote it they tried to just break the rules they feel intuitively instead of trying to "fill them in" with French grammar rules.
Example>La vie est belle
direct translation from someone who doesn't understand English mechanics might be>The life is beautiful
but to a native english speaker we know that the "The" should be dropped or it doesn't sound right>Life is beautiful
It's similar to how youth culture and ebonics that was used out of context and outside of sentence structure sounds weird, giving away an outsider such as a fed or adult.>That's so SWAG YOLO
sounds weird, because we know YOLO is a complete phrase and though may translate to more colloquially known "carpe diem" it can't be used in the same way.
We also know that swag is more suitable to be used in context of a response. >Swaaaaaaaaag
would be more appropriate if commenting on a situation or outfit, because it describes it without needing "that's so" infront of it.
It's also why black people get upset when a slang goes mainstream, because Trap Queen becomes just a girl who likes to sell lots of leggings and tees rather than a pimp or dealer's gf that will stuff crack in her pussy to keep it from being found when they get pulled over. Also because certain phrases and terms get grammatically misunderstood - "On fleek" might become 'on fleek-ing' by the time white office workers get to the term because they don't understand ebonics'/AAVE's sentence structure.
So when someone hears "Son i am having a SWAG YOLO ON FLEEK time right now!" coming from a middle aged white man towards his mixed son, it is embarrassing and clear to members of the culture he appropriated the language from that the man does not engage with or research black culture beyond a very superficial level.
It feels wrong because he is missing the grammar rules innate to aave/ebonics.
Same as with the larper pretending to be french, it's clear whoever is doing it doesn't try to use french grammar when structuring a sentence, they're just trying to structure a sentence incorrectly.
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Zoe tried ignoring the stolen-dress-buyer’s messages and once again only responded to the situation when called out.
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>>152961>please leave me now
She acts like she’s a victim
and it isn’t her own fault for being a thieving scummy piece of trash who sold a stolen dress.
Wow, I just saw you post on Secondhand Market Chaos.
Why are you so adamant about defending a scalper and a thief?
In your posts you try to insist you are "indifferent" and an "outside perspective" but you seem awfully determined to try to convince everyone she is a victim
. Pretty sus fam.
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Petitbutter is Zoe’s Vinted.fr account (the flooring matches Zoe’s flooring) and she’s trying to escape the scrutiny of the other western comms by selling on there.
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On her Etsy she left a review supporting a shop called Magical Imouto(gross) that makes gross pedo pandering shit like naked loli little sisters in magical girl transformations
Literally all I need to do to be "in" Lolita is buy a Lolita dress or two and some accessories. I have been lurking and following/watching Lolitas for years, and might get into it when I have $funds, so yes I can have an opinion on it. >>153030
Sorry I'm from Europe and don't spell like an American, you know there are more than two people in Europe, right? It's possible both sides of an argument can be retarded/dealing with it badly, Zoe and her buyer are a good example. Pointing that out doesn't mean I'm Zoe.
Funny how you completely ignored the previous comments with valid
criticism of your bullshit earlier and went after the ones you can just easily reee at
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Have they tried contacting PayPal?? Eventually it should go to a collection agency no?
I’m honestly so confused with this now. I don’t know what an e check is or how exactly it went now.
Since SHC got deleted:
An eCheck only happens during a refund if there is suspicious activity with a seller's account, such as they have a high number of disputes, tried removing their bank/cc information, or didn't approve a refund.
So basically, if you get a refund via eCheck it means the seller was not willingly trying to refund you and wanted to scam you.
Can you even deactivate your Paypal while funds are still transacting? >>153091
Nobody could use their names either in that thread, it seems very odd to limit discussion on this since it's ongoing.
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Another reason no one should ever be buying from Zoe - everything is allegedly through her mom's PayPal. I've thought this for a long time, since there's no way Zoe has her own income.
I'm general, it's pretty shady using a PayPal that's legally in someone else's name.
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Apparently Zoe is sending her friends to harass the victim of her scamming in her DMs to convince her to stop speaking out against Zoe scamming her out of money.
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OK but how is she still buying stuff today from other lolitas ??
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Old account, but maybe Zoe will go back to using.
This gives everyone with a mental illness such a bad name, and I can't fucking stand it. Plenty of us have our own issues, and we don't use other people as flesh shields to deflect and feel better.
The amount of shit just handed to Zoe is incredible. Part of me is actually jealous of her because no one would defend a semi-mentally-stable person if they did the same thing.
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OT but holy shit sobisoba is absolute dogshit at tattooing. Her lines are wobbly as fuck and everything in her flash is traced. This is really embarrassing
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Holy shit, I would sue. This is fucking garbage. Prison tattoos come out better than her work.
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>triggered over the abbreviation SS being used for shopping services
>acting like Zoe didn’t sell something that doesn’t belong to her and like she isn’t morally a thief
Everything about this screams retarded
I could kind of see her point if A) she didn’t immediately try to sell the items and B) she didn’t also call her a ~victim
~ because lmao, what
Plus I’m also in a country that was occupied by the nazis and literally everyone in my comm uses SS as an abbreviation for shopping service.
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Bitch is engaged? Looks like a fake honestly the ring isn’t even her size
Ok that kind of annoys me but I’m pretty sure that you’re not allowed to do that in France. I looked it up online and websites seem to strongly suggest to not try to resell packages that were delivered by accident. Someone got caught re-selling a car part online and got a 200e fine in 2019 (which is not much but still proves that it’s a crime)
I think people confuse receiving an item by a big brand reseller from receiving a personal item or something that has a certain value. Usually bigger companies like Amazon will replace something if they made a mistake and won’t hold a customer accountable just because it’s not worth it to them.
And even so, it’s a moot point because that dumbass was made aware of it right away, or should have know that the package was not intended for her, and still decided to try and sell it as fast as possible. Trying to pass off as a victim
of a SS that made a human mistake is beyond ridiculous. So ashamed of the French community yet again.
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Zoe is back on LM trying to sell stuff again. I don’t know how she has the audacity to do this, especially since the person she sold the stolen dress to STILL hasn’t gotten her refund yet
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And this is the description kek the audacity
Selling and receiving money for stolen goods should be instant ban. Not sure if mods have that kind of power, maybe only the long lost admin.
Is there no way for LM to get a new admin?
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And the person you stole from and the other person you scammed don’t have feelings? You aren’t a victim, Zoe
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Not defending Zoe but lol. Is she upset that someone else might be able to buy the dress that she wanted?
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Nobody buys huh? Kek
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All the issues should be resolved now. Girl got her packages, this chick got her refund and Zoe is laying low. Milkfed and happy. I would appreciate if someone could post caps from EGL wall of shame
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God this bitch is delusional. She TRIED to scam by selling something that wasn’t hers and only corrected the situation once publicly shamed for being a very shitty person.
She’s trying so hard to paint herself as a victim
when she caused all of this by taking something that wasn’t hers and tried to profit off of it
unpopular opinion but why not let her sell her shit so she can finally leave? most lacemarket users are old enough to know for themselves whether they wanna buy from someone who scammed once or not (and after all she has a bunch of feedback from fair sales too).
After she has sold all of her shit she's gone for good but if everyone keeps spamming her posts she'll just keep relisting and coming back, might even make a new account if she needs to.
I get what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s as simple as her selling “what she has left” and then leaving. She seems to be stuck in a cycle of buying new releases then selling her existing pieces to presumably pay off the debt. Until she addresses the shopping addiction, quits lolita altogether or is put into residential MH treatment she’ll have a constant supply of lolita to sell.
The community seems to be doing a good job of self-moderating in the absence of an outright lacemarket ban. People will get bored of spamming her comments but her pool of willing buyers will remain incredibly small for a long time to come. Niche internet communities never forget, kek
She spends like a couple minutes minutes rapidly reviewing dresses then spends the rest of the time explaining how being biologically female amd wearing the most feminine fashion on earth doesn't mean you're female and your gender identity is totes valid
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What a toxic cunt
So the person immediately deletes the post, instantly rectifying the "problem" yet you didn't get the drama you signed up for, so you're still trying to stir the pot. You'd rather the offensive post stayed up so you could make some noise
, making it clear to everyone you just wanted a target to practice on and had no issue with the content being visible in the first place.
Cows make themselves so obvious. If she was sincere she'd consider the problem solved as soon as the post was deleted. What more could you want? Nobody needs to hear the same appropriation argument for the 100th time.
She's already let it out that she's far from woke, and pissed off a chunk of her old subs….. This won't get those subs back kek
Is it at least good?
I consider myself very liberal to SJW degrees, but the concept of "dirty delete" is so stupid. It's exactly as the other anons said, she's just mad she didn't get her drama. Unless it's like a corporation or someone HUGE, they don't need to come out with a statement for posting something that's only seen as problematic
in the states (and maybe the UK?).
Then she should stop wearing Lolita, you know the fashion style heavily inspired by European aesthetics like Rococo.
This is getting really stupid.
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TLDR: Bigot Rose pissed off her own comm that she didn't even consult before making her stupid Lolita 101 book.
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She responded to any negative concrit by being offended, and literally blocked the group she apparently worked for.
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She's ita af, hasn't been in the community more than 3 years, and thinks she has the authority to sell people "Lolita mentoring" for $100.
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tried to sell her shitty "mystery boxes" and failed so now she's trying to make newbies pay $400 for coords put together by herself.
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It gets better.
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Don't forget about this gem from her orbiter.
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The face of lolita.
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Got another one for you, this one sounds like a “friend” too who pointed out Bilbo Rose’s bad behavior and got blocked because of it; like how much of a victim
can you even be? This girl needs to be escorted the fuck outta the lolita community, along with her shit jewelry and shit book and overpriced “services”.
Her comm and her friends don’t even like her.
THIS is what she will put together for you? I’m honestly shocked anyone thinks this is alright for Lolita. It’s all obvious cheap amazon shit and might be okey when you’re 16 and go to your first Gothic festival >>156145
why is she showing a random meth addict how to browse the internet
That’s because they are - if Bidet Rose didn’t nuke the thread, I bet you “I’m not plus sized or a sex worker” Liv did.
I still can’t get over that someone legitimately said that she doesn’t actually think she’s plus sized, who is she fooling? Her damn self?? I’d say someone should tell her but she really just seems like as much of an idiot as Gigolo Rose at this point.
Especially since she also “didn’t know she was going to be in a print book, tried to pull out and ‘wasn’t allowed’ by Bilbo Rose”.
At this point, this whole situation is just giving us so much milk, I’m almost drowning.
Lmao I got issued a warning because I laughed at the fact she doesn’t refer to herself as plus-sized (which is hilarious in and of itself).
That cow must clearly be a jannie because the threads keep getting deleted.
Let’s discuss THAT cow here now.
Shopping-addict “I’m not plus sized” ita is clearly a jannie on cgl, the last 2 continuation threads were deleted and multiple people were banned/warned for their comments calling her out for saying she isn’t plus sized.
You gotta have a seriously warped sense of self to think you’re not plus sized but then to nuke half the threads just because they bring up that is just obvious, and honestly, how much of a dumbass can you be?
Branded permanent ita and also a permanent plus-sized ita in my books because I was banned for laughing at her pig-like nature. Might need to start calling her out publicly more, you can try to hide the threads on cgl honey but good luck running from the farm.
she's not, her and all of her buddies from the same discord reported it. it's still sus though, why did this get squashed when so much actual vendetta gets left untouched?
also please remember to sage unless you're actually posting caps, i know /cgl/ brought some of you over but it's a little different here.
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Her Reddit was mentioned in the first deleted thread. I just went back to find this comment, and it's now gone, so clearly she's cleaning things up. I'll post the full history for posterity, if it's all going to disappear. If you're posting about your kinks on the same account you're posting about lolita, you are not separating them.
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jk missed one
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It's Liv, brand ita upthread trying to bury anyone talking about her.>>156217
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It literally took more time to post than the 15 seconds it took to screenshot them, but sure, defend her all you want. I don't want to interact with ageplayers.
lol you mad livie? go cry to your nasty daddy and maybe he’ll buy you more burando you have to squeeze your fat body into.
pretty sure it’s because she won’t let a soul talk about her on cgl, this isn’t unhinged, this is the only place we can discuss this thick cow’s milk without it getting nuked in under 2 seconds.
She’s as much of a parasite as Bilbo Rose on this community and needs to be addressed.
I hate kinksters who can’t separate their kink from the fashion.
Thanks to the anon who posted caps!
Nah, I can generally get behind your view but she uses she same account to post about lolita as she does about her kinks, hence the caps.
It’s not a vendetta if the dumbass can’t actually separate the two.
Wunderfuck/PM and Avina are both in Rose Foret videos (along with many, many itas) so it is a bit hard taking anyone who defends that youtube group seriously.
That being said, Bidet Rose needs to get out. She is so skeezy and money grubby plus her coords and makeup are terrible, she has no business trying to shill her scams.
There's no scientific evidence. Further, people who practice BDSM are emotionally more stable.
Sage for non-con, please stop spreading fake 'information', you're a joke.
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Honestly I don't really care if people in the fashion have kinks or not, but I think this is relevant because she recently posted a tiktok calling out ddlg/kink-related accounts. It blew up a little bit.
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>>156252>I’m not plus sized
What a delusional fat bitch.>>156253
Gotta make sure the narrative fits her delusions. Can’t have anyone telling her facts like she is definitely plus sized/obese
>>156237>>156252>I’m not plus-sized>Banns anyone from /cgl for saying otherwise>tries to report milk on the farm for “doxxing” because you can’t control people here.
You HAVE to be completely delusional.
Honey, I’m smaller than you can can fit into half-shirred and I even define myself as “plus-sized”. I’m barely plus-sized for American standards but I sure as fuck am on Japanese standards - why are you diluting yourself so that others can’t find resources that would help them out too? So you can uplift others in the community AND also get better yourself?
Is your sense of self so warped from stuffing your face too quickly or do you think being able to “fit” into ONLY full-shirring somehow negates that you are, indeed, plus-sized?
Go buy some more overpriced, scalped honey cakes and stop trying to report anyone on the farm just because you couldn’t be contained to your jannie cgl threads you banned people because of.(blogging)
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>>156252>do ya'll ever wonder if what you see in the mirror is just not accurate?>perception of myself vs concrete measurements and such do not line up
This sounds like actual body dysmorphia. I don't hate this girl or anything, but she's been overweight for years it seems (picture related is from a "glow up" tiktok).
Sure, we all want to be a cute, tiny, uwu girl. But actually thinking your physical measurements are lying to you is on a different level.
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She thinks because she’s short she can weigh as much as a baby elephant and not be plus sized but one look at her limbs and the “muh big boobs” excuse is out the window. Look at these ham legs. The shoes look like they’re cutting off her circulation
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but anon, her small waist!
How quick she is to report and try to get things taken down, she clearly stalks the boards so I’m glad the farm exists and in the capacity it exists in at that.
It’s giving me a renewed sense of life knowing we’re all pointing out how much of an idiot she is for being in denial over her being definitely plus sized and she can’t take it down or do anything about it here.
The hypocrisy. It's always the loudest, most annoying ones yelling "DDLG/KINK ACCTS DO NOT INTERACT!" then they're the ones with an uwu daddy dom posting about their kinks on a side account.
The same exact thing happened to tokimeki bunny/coconut head. She was vapid a couple years ago and had a vendetta against anyone who mentioned having a kink.
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Can someone see what’s she up to here.
not sure if the group was made for everyone involved in bilbo rose's business in general or if it's the group mentioned here >>156141
(if it's the latter, does that mean people actually signed up for that mentoring bullshit?)
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Kyra is going Maison de Julietta on us.
For a whole 97$ you too can be dressed up by a clueless ita with a rat nest for hair.
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it’s so bad. also, her bf is a bridge troll. early male pattern baldness, daddy af
Oh I meant Gigolo Rose’s TikTok, but this is equally as bad.
Both Liv and Kyra are parasites on this community.
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This was her starter lolita set. Before she was selling the set herself but now you can pay an additional $97 for her to tell you to buy $300 worth of taobao.
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The complete list of items
That price alone makes me both cackle and makes me sick simultaneously.
300$ for some shit taobao?! What the actual fuck?
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Also she was fighting about how she definitely credits her artists on her page, but doesn't even list which one made an item unless they happen to have their own logo on the product.
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Bodyline literally have beginner Lolita bundles for $60.
see, i would disagree if she were an adult with a good job, but i think she's… 18? 19? and bought everything in two years. i really doubt she has no debt. also, continuing to buy clothes she can't fit in is weird af. jahr territory.
also, her age means that she did her e-whoring very very recently. unless she did it underage, which would be a… choice.
at least sage your posts, newfag whiteknight>>156410
it's just speculation, but if her family was rich they'd put her up in a better place than >>156261
and she (probably? hopefully?) wouldn't have e-thotted
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It can't be too much money, because she complained for like two weeks about losing the bid on that yellow Decoration Dream dress.
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It either means your blocked or restricted. I checked and she's still public on my end. Did you interact with her??
creighton is hardly prestigious or expensive (by university standards), it’s your average private religious university.
not doxxing because it’s in her Instagram description
That's from bibelot rose and has nothing to do with that other cringey girl.
You sound very weirdly obsessed with Olivia, anon, may i suggest seeking employment?>>156396
/cgl/ jannies shutting down the Zoe thread was pants on head retarded. Jannies have been extra shit these past two years
aren’t even whiteknighting, you’re free to look him up yourself
Bruh that hairstyle looks like she got attacked by a wild bird. Goth teasing is supposed to be teased and styled not just teased and left to die. Her coords are so cheapey and shit too, imagine paying $300+ Styling service for taobao trash to go with an AP main piece
Also please stop saying Bigot unless you know what it means and can explain what she did to discriminate. Seems like it’s just poor wordplay by a retard. This girl is ita but seems to do all the expected virtue signaling to SJWs
Stop the retarded infighting and learn to sage.
Thinking it’s a vendetta shitting up the board. I hope discord mods drop whoever it is that we’re channeling the server at the time. And dumbass literally said they were blocked by liv so I hope that she name drops the vendetta
Just like plaque vendetta Chan >>150541>>143457
this vendetta is too retarded to hide their trace
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she tried to disguise her profile lmao. but the floors still match, along with the number of reviews. She changed her username, removed her pfp and probably blocked most of the people who were following her
She’s not though, she’s trying to hide the fact she used her business account to publicly attack others in her community and then not take accountability for her actions by just simply deleting it.
How much more of a coward can you be to not even apologize for what you started and the actions you did. We have all the screenshots here - she just want to bury it because she clearly can’t handle anything that isn’t outright asspats for her dumb “business”
Pretty tacky how she calls a basic shooting star design pin a "gay pride" pin and why even add pronoun pins into a randomized subscription box?Is everyone they/them all of a sudden?
how does she even stutter this much the video is so awkward
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Some cow has gone and made a lolita coloring book pdf with traced Kira Imai art. She keeps saying well I used references….
Literally this is just so…childish and cowardly. If you want to make a business, why cop out, not listen to advice or criticism and attempt to improve, why hide the fact you fought with your community and then just delete the whole thing? Did she not just quit her full-time job to do this? And she just gave up as quickly as it all started?
Damn, that’s honestly as messy as her whole brand but eh, at least it’s on brand for her to just run away from her problems and be unable to take concrit.
Lmao "now i'm gonna change all the traced pics since I got caught and pretend it never happened"
I can't believe how common this "i didn't trace it just so happens to be identical when overlayed over the original piece" defence is. Nobody "accidentally" draws entirely identical legs etc. just by "being inspired by an illustration".
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Sharing before I delete it forever, just some crazy thai reseller that was selling a btssb babydoll replica (at a cheap price) and once the chinese girl that wanted to buy realized it was a replica she backed out
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Bibelot Rose own handiwork. Her improvement in the other illustrations is simply is astounding.
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Lmao is she finally leaving the fashion???
Imagine spending countless hours making a trash book because you're "revolutionizing" the fashion, then quitting once you realize you can't scam the community out of their money.
Fucking good riddance.
none of these options are good. if she genuinely likes the fashion–which she truly seems to–then she shouldn't let her failed business venture stop her from still wearing it. she definitely shouldn't "defend" herself, that would exacerbate any drama. she should stop trying to run a community and a store though, and should probably keep a low profile on any communities she orbits.
if she's really selling all her stuff and not just closet cleaning, that sends the message that she never really loved the fashion to begin with, she just wanted a platform she could step onto where she could be seen as a figurehead, and she thought it would be easy in lolita to just buy her way to expert status and high visibility. if that's the case, she'll probably just find another niche hobby in a year or two and do the exact same thing. i know a few people like this
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$75 subscription box
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Another $75 box.
Truly she’s just trying to make everyone feel like she’s the victim
in this situation - like the community as a whole and her local community somehow “bullied” her out of the fashion rather than the fact she started a scamming business that preyed on new lolitas who didn’t know any better, created a public fight with her business account, attacked her local community with that same business account, tried to hide it and not apologize, and not take any of the concrit the community was trying to give her.
She’s gaslighting the fuck out of the whole community considering her “dream dress” was letter doll (to be fair what the fuck?) and she’s selling those to try to make it seem like “I don’t want even my favorite dress anymore, YOU ALL ruined the fashion for me” rather than be self aware or introspective for even a minute.
It’s very clear she’s just trying to make money in any way possible and got herself into some shopping-addiction debt so instead of scamming the community anymore she’s given up and is just trying to last-ditch-effort sell her “high ticket items” to make herself some money. (Which is also another comment on how STAINED and DAMAGED her items are and yet she’s still trying to sell everything at close to $200 - which only idiots and newfags will pay for, yet again showing how she’s just trying to scam newbies, even in her temper-tantrum style exit).
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I believe i found the new account of zoe. I remember her commenting very similar about the shopgirl and if my brain doesn’t trick me i think she was obsessed w the elephant before the hanikami bear so… i doubt she will accept followers though
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I don’t know why she’s still trying to drag up drama from earlier this year, but it’s so annoying.
Not only did she feel the need to make a 5 paragraph thread on twitter, but also posted on her insta story.
>>158118>Expecting someone with a very obvious and overt "I don't give a fuck what you think" personality to rake through SJW criticism and respond to it
No good at parsing tone of voice and context? How can you miss Tyler's persona to this degree where you genuinely expect an apology for a completely inoffensive, true, accurate video which was specifically about
not pandering to idiots and apologizing to them.
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Arrived suddenly like… After she "disappeared " same camera and type of photo minus the wood floor. From France , sell items Zoe used to show on her insta . Same way of writing
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Saw higher her last name, and it has been revealed she used her family member paypal and its the exact last name too
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Yup there is also this account. If I remember correctly someone on cgl said she used this account to outbid people
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Went through her twitter and bitch is fat, old, uggo and annoying af but everything she doesn't like happens solely because of her skin colour, right…
She also starts every video with "Konnichiwa minnasan, Marina Kei desu!", how is that not considered problematic
appropriation of nipponese culture by her and her likeminded friends?
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Yeah, meanwhile the eastern lolita community cares so much about black and brown lolitas, constantly giving them shoutouts and hyping up the biggest lardass itas…oh wait, no, that would never even cross their minds.
The thing the western community cares the most is trying to outwoke each other and discussing whether dress X fits their 50 inch waists.
Not sure whether anon was talking about this but here somebody is already complaining about tyler having been allowed to an event.
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Ironic as fuck coming from Naturally Racist.
nobody will because
a.) it's not a big deal
b.) not a single soul wants the wf / neorococo crew on their ass, especially not one of their own
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Because they hope shitstirring brings them attention and are seething with pure unfiltered jealousy because they want the efame youtubers like tyler and lor have. But since they are delusional about themselves, they project their thirst for clout on them and blame racism on everything to avoid responsibility and self-reflection. Hell, I usually hate the "ur just jelly" argument, but this time it's just completely fitting.
Cgl, and above in this thread
She was the unhinged one that wouldn’t stop posting about the tiktok girl
She outed herself a few times from the discord screenshots and when she accidentally let it slip that she was blocked
Not all of it was her but she won’t move on and it goes way further than whatever embarrassing ita behavior the other girl has done
Post the caps of what made you believe a specific anon is a certain person, why they would post someone else and who that someome else "from their comm" is etc and generally who all these literal whos are. Lolcow isn't your facebook comm group. >>159731
It's probably just one of the retarded newfags from cgl who are incapable of understanding that multiple people can make fun of someone or disagree with them, so they resort to their own vendetta
So this one? >>156394
Doesn't need vendetta to make fun of that, I commented on her too.
Speaking of vendetta, why are you obsessed with M? It's more than one anon posting about L.
The L whiteknights are getting ridiculous and I honestly think it's self posting. Older posts regarding L when she was mentioned in the Bibelot Rose threads were reported and they tried doing the same here as well so I think she's the one reporting any negative posts regarding her. And with comments like "she's famous on TikTok" "you're jealous you can't be her" and "you just wish you had her wardrobe" on cgl, no one would want to be a newbie covidlita with a shopping addiction that's in denial about being plus size. It's delusional.
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Discord confirmed it’s her kek>>156554
You can see who views what on discord and this all leads to momo. Not sure why she’s obsessingly posting about liv tho.
All the 4chan threads are filled with her vendetta posting on liv.
Apparent Proof of momo being a seagull.
CGL Art thread
Let’s not sugar coat the drama momo and show yourself since mods are aware
It’s already been discussed that it’s not just momo posting about olivia. Multiple farmers in this thread have said they post about Olivia, if it was just momo samefagging about her in this thread farmhands would call it out. But they didn’t, because it’s not her. They did call out liv and pals for falsely reporting a bunch of shit as doxing too.
And everyone and their mom knows momo posts to /cgl/ anyway? It’s been known literally for years newfag. Calm down.
Projecting vendetta behavior. Even if that,,momo fails to see herself as a cow and now this all burning in her face.
Don’t be like ita plaque Chan
Really, anon? You can't see who views what on Discord. What a ridiculous bluff.
I posted the Reddit caps and I'm definitely not Momo. More people dislike ageplayers than you think.
Btw, as much as she cares to deny it, she was a sex worker. I no longer have access to the channel it's in, but she confirmed both that and that it was the server members mass reporting the threads about her that got it deleted.
Olivia definitely seems the type to be a secret sex worker in order to buy brand. I agree with >>159852
that Olivia is definitely mad that she is absolutely mogged by every other lolita content creator on TikTok and is jealous that her low-effort content is not blowing up. Cry harder fatty!
I have caps of garbage-chan vaguely admitting to shit talking yasmine, and anonymously stirring shit with other area old schoolers. Bold of gc to continue pretending they’re “bestu rori friends” and posting unboxings and shit with her. She publicly claims to have distanced herself from board culture, but she’s a regular frequenter to /fa, the farms and /cgl.
I’m scared posting them will almost certainly give away who I am which would likely invoke irl ire that I’m not willing to face at the moment. Yes I’m a pussy.
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1/9, Olivia is lavender.
Outright lying - her face is in the Reddit caps and she posted less than a month ago.
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This is the missing image.
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Less interesting, just proof it was mass reporting.
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Bonus because you just reminded me, Momo (red) even supported her through it before she was banned. >>160764
Was like immediately after this, cropped out RN's soliloquy about not looking at drama sites.
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Here’s a cap of the post that is still up on /cgl/ that is 100% Olivia or a friend of hers making shit up about momo. Strange that any post talking about Olivia gets deleted in a heartbeat but this blatant vendetta/lie about momo is up this long after it got posted
This thread already turned into a gigantic Momo toe sucking circlejerk so you might as well.>inb4 i'm Olivia>inb4 i am a friend
She is a crazy bitch who got what was coming for her. I don't particularly like both of them though so i got lul on both sides.
So far there has been literally zero caps to go with any accusations made against momo. Meanwhile more and more caps of shit against olivia keeps getting posted. I started off being skeptical and asking for people to post caps since I wanted to actually see what she did but since nobody has posted any and a bunch of retarded newfags keep vaugeposting without giving proof of said milk I’m of the opinion that until someone actually posts some proof it’s a vendetta against momo.
Ive never seen anything posted about momo in these threads aside from her excessive shooping obsession, which is dry as fuck. Post something new. If she’s a crazy bitch there’s gotta be proof, so post it.
That’s why momo is getting defended. You need caps, you can’t just vaugepost and not provide proof. This has always been the case on lolcow. Lurkmoar newfag.
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What’s the tea on that
Sounds like the discord group is a bunch of bitches.>>160784
Liv and momo fans really took over this thread
I'd like to know too
what exactly was shared and who did it?
(not into moitie so I barely know what they're doing over there)
If I understand it right, according to the not so subtle discordfag(s) here >>159732 >>156554
, this >>156431 >>156433 >>159858
is supposed to be proof that she "vendetta" posted here.
honestly this whole thing is pretty entertaining, tho I am still left with some questions/ comments
Why would L have M blocked on instagram when they frequent the same discord.
when they mention L used to do sex work, what are we refereeing to (supper not judging, just curious)
why is everyone on that discord licking her ass ?
At this point its pretty obvious that L also frequents cgl & lolcow, since she the caps above clearly show her screencaping anything that mentioned her pretty darn fast.
If it's from one of the vetted discords, it's likely that it resembles a private discord shared between friends rather than a public one where anyone can come and go. There's probably a lot of groupthink encouragement to act like a bunch of friends, even if most people are perfect strangers in reality.
Sage for an otherwise useless response though.
But the reddit history sperging isn't?
Sounds like there's a two way vendetta and far too much free time and autism involved
This once again proving how unhinged Lolitas are. They had it coming by being in a stupid discord group. Can you retards shut up already about the two insecure fags. This is seriously getting annoying on general >>156380
July 17th and she still hasn’t dropped the book release or any updates. What a fail
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I actually enjoyed Rose Nocturnalia, but seeing her go makes me upset. Did the fatties attack her this bad over the AP sizing drama? http://rosenocturnalia.blogspot.com/?m=1
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Just anons review of what transpired in may. Rose comments were up for a bit before deleting everything. She told off the fatties and they went autistic rage on rose
One of the fatties ran to TikTok to make a video about rose and the comments are filled with whining fatties
She made a whole video on Lolita drama and I can totally understand why she wants to distance herself from this deranged community. The fatties and itas kept calling her a gate keeper and she is over the shitty online Lolita space.
This person sounds like a fucking cow.
Why not just own what she told the fatties instead of pretending she was bullied and making a dramatic exit post. She'll be back when the heat has died down like all retards who can't handle the consequences of what they post.
If this wasn't about fatties, anons would be rightfully calling her for the pathetic pissbaby behavior this is.
>she told off fatties
did she literally do this or just some mild version of it?>>161905
kek at the top comment>i think bringing up people who can't afford to eat healthy food wasn't a great point to support the argument with.. because one AP dress can buy 2-3 months of groceries for one person…
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caps before deletion
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Thanks, anon. You're an angel.
I don't think she said anything wrong. I'm not plus sized, but I'm on the petite side of things and Moitie is slowly becoming too big for me. That said, I stopped buying from them and started to buy either old pieces or pieces from brands with smaller sizes. I won't die from doing that, and neither will them.
These people advocating for "more inclusive sizing" are only interested on sizing that accommodates them. I do not see them joining me when I say that Moitie doest fit me anymore, they are just "it's so good that they are making bigger sizes! Now it can fit more people!"
Anyway , saying that everyone deserves to wear cute things doesn't mean that AP is the only way to achieve that
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>>162172>I learned how to cut up AP dresses and modify them for my body, and I should not have had to learn that.>My ETA that I give customers is 1-2 months, imagine waiting all that extra time to wear new releases.Holy shit
what an insufferable person. Buy from a different brand!
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The likes and dislikes ratio tho
Anyway why do they always blame businesses for their body being too big.
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She’s a bit special
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Landwhale is still pressed over rose comments.
>>162170>the demands are unrealistic
So fucking what then? Just let people spin their wheels and bitch. The worst that happens is that those brands maintain their quo.
I half believe lolitas who are pressed about fat women saying that brands should carry their sizes are nervous that those brands will actually up and do it one day. And then the fatties will be running around in coveted prints and dress cuts too which means the gatekeeping won't feel special anymore.
Why are current lolitas such busy bodies? This idiot caused drama for herself because she wanted to get unnecessarily preachy over a literal who. She got what she deserved.
dude are you ok? Girl just gave a realistic measured answer which included her a lot of valuable knowledge a covidlita could learn a lot from. why do we have to hate actual knowledge& conversation?
Getting this mad coz you got schooled shows a lot about your character
It's funny when newbies in the fashion think brands have never adapted to the western market. Super adorable shit.
Protip: AP measurements are bigger today than they were even 10 years ago. >>162197
Nice blog, but no one has to.
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I wonder how half her comm feels after that stunt. There’s no way she thought her comm will still be around her while she’s on the low.
>>162220>Rose explained in a fair argument
That absolutely no one asked her for.
Maybe brands will cater to more sizes one day. Who the fuck cares.
Rose wasn't boolied. Brands aren't being boolied.
she commented in a public video, you usually don't need an invitation for something like that .
u sound deranged
It's called picking your battles. >but the video was public
As was her comment, which fatties also chose to publicly respond to. She ran away like a coward because she couldn't stand by what she said.
Anything else need explained to you nonnie
Other people in the comments made a honest argument like rose to fatty’s video.
oh I am sorry i didn't know we where pulling nonnies out know
well go to hell whore
I am >>162197
, I think dressing up and feeling good about how you look is a great first step in activating a self love/self confident living. So having some plus size lolita is available is definitely good.
But if a specific piece doesn't fit, and you want it that badly maybe its a sigh.
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You’re seriously saying rose deleted her comments and ran like a bitch. Rose doesn’t give a shit who she offends and won’t be catering any woke fatty fags with bs. I don’t think rose would leave social media bc of some mad fatties but, due to annoyance of the state of the Lolita community.
sure mate coz there is only one person with informed opinions
learn how to coord lose some weight and then come back
More like fatty mad at AP Asian sizing >>162249
Wokeness is a disease
Reminds me of this
Real women= bio women
Trans women = women
She's right tho. Why should AP give a fuck about catering to Amerifats when all they do is act entitled and bitch about sizing and pricing?
When they could just swoop on over to China where most of the women there actually fit the clothes, love every design they shit out, and have the money for it?
AP is ultimately a business,they don't owe you shit and they're going to go where the money is at.
i wonder why? even if she was an idiot she seemed to really like the fashion. plenty of people enjoy lolita without contributing to the community at large or even affiliating with a comm at all. maybe she is trying to gain sympathy or do it for shock value?
sage for no milk
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Not to jump on rose’s dick but the fatties were such spergefags. Rose on the other hand can run off and hide but, her argument was %100 reasonable to AP markets only appealing to certain audiences. I only see American fatties crying about AP sizing the most and it’s very telling with their entitlement attitude. Maybe in the future AP will change their sizing but, amerifatties needs to stop forcing demands on overseas businesses. These woke fucks will say how Americans should stay out of foreign business but out here policing a foreign businesses. Sizing in American is very different from the UK, JP, or any other nation sizing chart. Sizing all over the world is different and Americans needs to understand that not everything revolves around them.
Why don’t they go support meta that size inclusive instead than getting all up in AP. Just alter or move on
Honestly whenever I see blatant white knighting like this, I suspect it’s a vendettachan trying to stir shit. You’d have to have a room temperature IQ to consistently post>sorry she’s prettier than u lol every1 jealous
and think you’re actually helping.
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Talking about fattie-chans made me think of this one kek she looked so matronly in her reel. Anyone noticed that filter sperging when she shows the earrings?
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this face made RN leave huh
She looks very special.
Extra chromosome special.
Why we are allowing these shameful displays of gluttony and self righteousness into such a beautiful fashion and actually listening to them is beyond me. I wish we told them to stop crying and lose weight or use their ham hands for something other than grabbing food by learning to sew like we did back in early Lj days.
SJW movement spreading was the worst thing to happen
can't even lipsync properly in her tiktoks. so fucking ita and cringe>>162674
I honestly long for the LJ days. no spoonfeeding, no bullshit
The fataphobia is real disheartening.
Not all plus size lolita are apple shaped, some of them are just tall
There are a lot of uggos out there fat or skinny. If we’re gonna kick people out can it be the uggos
Sorry you’re all uggos that got offended
I don’t even like AP so keep those sizes small for all I care
fucking ew, off yourself. >getoffegl
I see in your desperation to roleplay an oldfag you’ve forgotten how many regular posters were also outed as total cows themselves. But suuuure, it’ll go sooo much better for you anon, I’m certain you have zero embarrassing secrets that people totally wouldn’t weaponize their autism to dig up! That totally never happens!
Maybe it isn't about "winning" and more or less standing by the shit you feel with conviction. If you actually believe you're right, then it shouldn't matter if fatties come to hate you because it's not like you liked them either.
The truth is you don't want to be discovered because like Rose, you have a pathetic need to be liked underneath your baddie anon bullshit. Absolutely nothing comes from being a mean fuck to fat women. Which means you're just afraid of the clapback from them and maybe looking like a bit of an asshole in the online comm.
If one of those fatties claimed "harassment off the internet" for being called ugly and ita for posting, you'd tell them to get over it or stop wearing lolita.
Well, get over it or stop wearing lolita. You aren't being bullied because you opened your fat mouth and reaped the consequences.
Makeup and a brown bag can fix ugly
Losing weight can fix fat
Fattychans don't care!!11!!
They clearly do though >>162186
. Especially when you get posted to /cgl/
Fashion is not for everyone
stop quoting fluffykawaiijo
>>163092>seethe>is actually seethe over fatties not caring
the irony is palpable here. Just block and ignore fatties if they truly make you this mad.>>162975
typing like a negroid is cringe but you also said you missed them because they were more ‘brutally honest’. anon just pointed out that brutal honesty also didn’t go over as well in these places as you think it did.
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Why is this accurate anon
Once again, if they truly make you that upset then just block them. Getting this angry about fatties is pretty unnecessary.
Being fat or ugly isn’t milky just in itself.
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Stop defending/crying over fattychans unless it’s related to actual milk like this- pic related. Meta announced a plus plus size for international orders only and I haven’t seen a single fatty talk about it yet.
Fatties don't talk about meta because meta actually caters to them, every other brand is ~fatphobic~ thus needs to be talked/cried about.
There's plenty of good options for plus-sized sweet lolitas besides ap and baby but they pretend they don't see it so they can keep pretending they're being oppressed by 'muh fatphobic japanese brands'.
this has been a thing since they started doing it lol
Why acknowledge the brands that have been catering to you with beautiful pieces when you can screech online about every other brand on the planet that doesn't? They don't care about inclusion or specific styles being accessible. They want the world to reaffirm them in their body positivity by pretending being obese is perfectly fine and a totally ~natural~ part of the human body's evolution. All burando must alter their entire method of sizing to suit their feelings and cover all 450lbs. of their rapidly deteriorating bodies. And if it doesn't look JUST how the smaller sizes fit smaller women then they're making dumpy, low effort designs on purpose
cause they hate fatties and want them to dress like shit.
fatties just don't look cute. if they do, their comically sized body drags their appearance down.>>163247
You look like shit no matter the brand.>ur all ugly anywae!
What the fuck are you talking about
There's no need to regulate fatties because brands do that shit for us kek
back to twitter, fatty.
brands already don't allow them in and they're doing god's work omegalul
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Imagine being this pressed about fat people wearing clothes. Like how sad and empty are your lives that other people in the world squeezing themselves in your tacky ageplay looking brand makes you seethe on a 4chan containment website.>>163281
Meta is hot garbage most of the time which is why it is not as popular. I mean, AP is getting that way, but if there's a print or dress someone really wants that's AP and they can't fit into it, it hurts literally no one to bitch about not being able to fit into clothes online. The brands don't care and likely won't change, so why are you so bothered by other people being openly disappointed? How whiny do you have to be to whine about fatties whining?
I'm 5'9" and have broad shoulders, as some women are taller than average and I have literally no control over the shape of my bones. I am never going to fit an AP OP and am at peace with that.
I also understand that other people aren't going to share my personal experiences and opinions and might be upset that they can't fit into certain clothes and post about it on the internet. I somehow move on and manage to function in my life just fine in spite of the different feelings of others without succumbing to blind rage when I see others in clothes that don't fit them. It's so wild!
You're both wrong. People in the plus size facebook group love the new meta sizing.
Recently Meta had a few issues with the elastic in one of their new plus size dresses and is offering to cover return shipping costs and are fix the jsks for no extra cost.
People in the group who previously hadn't bought from Meta have expressed that they're going to becauase of how Meta resolved this recent issue.
Also you'd be surprised at the number of plus size lolitas who don't give a shit about AP or sweet lolita in general. The Plus size discord is probably about 95% gothic and classic and 5% sweet.
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also>am at peace with that
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For actual milk since you all are too busy talking about a fashion not being wearable by fatties (good luck prohibiting that), Tyler's new video starts like screenshot.
She rages anyway on every occasion how no one notices she's bi and how she even made LWLN in the bisexual colors.
And now she's blessing us with this and she looks like she crept out of a nightmare.
Nice user icon, nonny
What's this drama monger's username? All I see is their pfp.
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She changed her profile pic after being found but seems to be this landwhale:https://youtube.com/c/QueenThePancake
this girl:>"Tyler is shoving her bisexuality down everyone's throats!!"
also this girl in her channel description:>♥ super bi ♥ super funny ♥ super cool
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I remember her from the German lolita discord. She threw a tantrum and outet herself on btb after an anon made a secret about her posting on lolcow https://behind-the-bows.livejournal.com/2021/02/06/
I already knew. It also means non-contribution, and has been used that way on the farm for ages. Nobody cares about your special snowflake triggers
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Fattie deleted their YouTube after being caught in this thread
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No surprise. Her friend Autumn and her bf got kicked out of Toronto comm for harassing members and comm leader.
cap a anon shared in her thread >Mod bans autumn and her bf >wokefags ree>Autumn laters blame it on her autism
Besides the “fat shaming” which I agree with,, these two are the biggest ewhoring cows. Their circle is a bunch of Lolita rejects Ft. pisschan, sex harness Lolita, pedo, and more