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General thread for alternative cows. Featuring:
-It's Black Friday
-Toxic Tears and Jake Munro
-Avelina de Moray
-Adora Bat Brat
-Kat Von D
-minor cows: Sebastian Columbine, Dre Ronayne, Erin Micklow, Drac Makens
-new cows: Jude Bishop, Kady Rae
Previously on alt cows:
>Ruadhan guy calls out IBF. Goff YTers and their dog jump on drama
>Moray joins in then does miscarriage vid to prove she's above it
>TT defends her sellout self
>Jake models, is roasted. Song about bad home life. Ariana cover & MM ripoff vid
>herbs kisses IBF's ass, copies Angela's vids
>IBF/Matt both cheated. He's a player, she msged Owl. Divorce now done.
>IBF may repeat sham marriage in Scotland, rn still homeless but has time for festivals
>Adora strings along sireplague and coalcandy
>Kat antivax secretly now, makes #vegan palette with old shades.
>Bishop is a ddlg edgelord. Kady maybe self-posted, shit mom and attention whore.
>Seb still fake ace. Dre and Erin still posers. Drac still on break.
Is that four tattoos she's currently getting rid of? She's having laser on three others. Always seemed impulsive to me, very teen-like despite being a married mother..
She's one of those that attaches herself to fads like unicorns, mermaids, a disney character and uses it to cover a lack of character herself? She seems mostly harmless though.
Well I was almost gonna use that picture of cement? Paint? On Jake's teeth>>796525
Her recent posts are interviews and her wedding anniversary?
>She's one of those that attaches herself to fads…to cover a lack of character herself
That's most of the cows here kek. Especially those using g0ff to be more interesting, instead of them being interested in it ("goff isn't the music, cos i don't like it and i still wanna be goff!")
>>796537> That's most of the cows here kek. Especially those using g0ff to be more interesting, instead of them being interested in it ("goff isn't the music, cos i don't like it and i still wanna be goff!")
Well said anon. It's so flipping true. I mean that's why people like Angela & Ruadhan aren't exactly cows despite what some anons may believe. Because while they are Goth, you can tell they have genuine interest in it and don't use it to make them interesting. They both come off as having actual personalities and have lots to share about their experience with the scene as opposed to being a running QVC ad or mess of life considering hey don't do YouTube full-time and have jobs outside (at least Angela anyway, I remember Ruadhan said he has some physical health problems).
In other news, Snowy Lowther's new video was just… I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm older but I can't understand how someone would think their interest in Goth would affect them so much that it makes them have an identity crisis. All that tells me is that the person put way too much stock into something that should've just been an interest.
WHAT? I hate this bitch, she's so fucking fake. Tell all, with screenshots please>>796546
I am one of the anons who say angela and ruadhan like to involve themselves in drama. No one is saying they are cows or that they interest in goth in not real. I agree with you about them, they seem genuine people with real personalities and interests. Who also like drama. But we do too, a lot. Otherwise we wouldn't be regulars here, kek
Guess who's back with an attitude, complaining about call out culture and sjws despite being one themselves?
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So Kat Von Disease posted a pic on IG and decided to slam ReadyToGlare in the comments for exposing prayers for being shit when his daughter was raped. Two more SS to follow. The comment section is turning on her, sure to be deleted soon.
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I went to Kat von D's IG page and i barely saw people telling her off, apart from the ones from the screenshots. She probably blocked and deleted those who call her out on her BS, which is typical.
And why TF is she bringing up things that aren't that recent anymore. Ready to Glare's video was uploaded 3 months ago…She's really desperate isn't she?
Yeah true, I guess some people like drama or at least reading it, it's a human thing to be curious lol Had I not discovered this place, I would've been stuck in the bubble of thinking people like IBF were the image they put on.
But it's just nice to know that there are a few honest Goth YouTubers who have personality and know what goth is truly about.
Though I'm not sure who you're referring to? ReeRee Phillips? Avelina? Sorry, these two are the ones I don't check on because ReeRee doesn't really interest me and Avelina bores me and she's just insufferable to listen to.>>796610
It's so sad because I remember when I first saw Emily Boo (before she became a Youtuber) on the Snog, Marry, or Avoid show when she was with her Ex and the two seemed quite cool in it. But then she starts YouTube, talks about the truth between her and her ex and then we learn that she's not even an actual Goth but just a fashion GOFF who lets her image define her personality instead of having a real one. It's just depressing because I used to like her but now she's one of the big 5 Altcows I just don't care for.
Right? Only the Raven Sparks thread where Emily is mentioned since Raven skin walks her kek.>>796610
She wasn't even a "mermaid" anyway, whatever that means. She just had blue hair. She always said she "used to be" a goth (she wasn't) but now says she is (she isn't) so yeah, I agree she just follows whatever is trendy like almost every other alt cow here. But at least she actually sells her stuff and does giveaways, unlike the hoarder TT.
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Mr Owl is looking his age lately, and I see he's doing what Jake has done and painted his throat black. Why do they think that looks good? Ibf is humongous in this video! Her stomach is almost as big as her tits kek
Tbh weight gain aside, she looks much happier and "herself" with Mr Owl. It retrospect, it looks like she was putting on this personna around Matthias, it was not particularly genuine.
It was obvious she had set herself a certain "goff" criteria to fulfill, in order to validate her goffness around the ultimate source of tradgoff that she considered Germany to be.
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he puts in so much time and effort to look so ugly.
he literally only has this one look too.
same black teeth
same black neck
he's the most unoriginal person on the planet
he looks absolutely inbred
honestly nightmare fuel
>>796546>Well said anon. It's so flipping true. I mean that's why people like Angela & Ruadhan aren't exactly cows despite what some anons may believe. Because while they are Goth, you can tell they have genuine interest in it and don't use it to make them interesting. They both come off as having actual personalities and have lots to share about their experience with the scene as opposed to being a running QVC ad or mess of life considering hey don't do YouTube full-time and have jobs outside (at least Angela anyway, I remember Ruadhan said he has some physical health problems).
Yeah, Ruadhan has mentioned a lot that his primary income is Social Security Disability, and he also makes pins, his own music, and has a shift on a live Internet radio station to supplement. One of his old videos also seems he works part-time at a museum. He also seems to have some hobbies, is learning to speak Irish, and his pagan stuff at least seems genuine and not just a trendy topic that people like Dorian and TT sometimes talk vaguely about for views.
None of us would be here of we didn't get a chub for drama, though. >>796581
>So Kat Von Disease posted a pic on IG and decided to slam ReadyToGlare in the comments for exposing prayers for being shit when his daughter was raped. Two more SS to follow. The comment section is turning on her, sure to be deleted soon.
Yeah RTG "exposed" Rafael by collating his own words from his own interviews and book. It wasn't some hard-hitting expose, it was a few minutes of competent search engine skills followed with some commentary. Commentary that plenty of people had already said before. RTG
should be ashamed of this? Sure, Jan.>>796722
I think RTG might be VERY mildly autistic, or at least share some key traits with the high functing autistics I know. What really sets this suspicion of mine is her facial expressions, or rather lack of them. She makes maybe
three different faces, which aren't all that different from eachothrt. Her face is like that old cat cartoon with twelve different emotions all having the same expression. It's a highly common, probably defining autistic trait, which makes me find Dorian's claim of ASD/Asperger's HIGHLY suspicious, and it's probably just another thing, like her transtrender BS, that she claims on the Internet for attention.
She also seems to have her shit together, though, unlike fake Ass-Pie, Dorian. RTG is a functional adult who just has opinions on the Internet, and sometimes it's opinions on delicious drama.
You can think she's annoying, but she's far from cow material: no over shares, her personality feels real (even if you're not a fan of it), she's a teacher and grad student (and she seems like she knows that being stupid online is bad for teachers and career academics). I see how people think she sounds condescending, though, but she's actually pretty nice to message with on Twitter and IG; that's another thing that strikes me as autistic over, cos her voice is a bit monotone, and her specific tone reads kinda bitchy, even if she's otherwise clearly happy about something.
If she is
autistic, then she hasn't said anything online about it (or I didn't see it), and if
she is, then of course it's her right to keep it to herself. I've worked with ASD kids, though, and she reminds me of high functioning autistic people, but if someone isn't familiar with how different their brains operate, notated to ours, then I can see why they'd seem annoying or bitchy.
He's been painting his neck black for yeeeears now>>797014
Agree 100%, let's hope she hers back to being more genuine, I used to like her>>797075
He did it! He managed to make me think he kiiiinda looked kiiinda cute ish when he looked like a chav. Congrats, Jake. Why is he doing it to himself? Ofmg
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To me, the vocalist from the Gazette will always be the only one to pull off the whole throat makeup thing. Jake looks so hideous with that makeup. It'n not even theatrical macabre look. Just a horrible mess.
it's something that only works in a stylized setting, like on stage etc.
not as contour for dummies with no hand/eye coordination.
What? That's a fact - goths were supposed to look like they are dead and rotting and rivetheads like they just left factory after hours of wielding. Not caring about smudging and straight lines was normal and even intended. What makes you think otherwise? The reasons why this exact case does it that way is irrelevant, he wears a makeup that originated in these groups and later were adopted by early Manson and spooky kids. All these styles are characterized by messy makeups. >>797111
He may be even Russian gopnik. That changes nothing in resort of style of makeup he wears.
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Take it easy, this is lolcow not the UN.
This is not a fact, dude, you are wrong as fuck. Goths are not "supposed to" look dead and rotting. This look is mostly associated with horror punk and black metal. You really have no idea from when goth makeup came from. The standard goth look comes from old horror movies, where the makeup was basically exaggerated black shading, especially from german expressionist. Dark kids of the past thought this was cool as that's it. As for rivethead looks, don't know and don't care kek>>797375
This kind of comment is way more interesting than endless hauls. Let the kids get interested in actual goth subjects instead of shillstar and makeup brands.
And yeah, whoever that anon is they are right: who fucking cares about ironing? If you want to iron your clothes then do it, but fuck it being a requirement for a good look.
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Erin micklow is posting screenshots of her convo with the girl who accused her of rape. Then she posted her texting the guys. It’s a lot of screenshots.
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Mostly stuff like this
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sage because nothing new.
in the last thread an anon asked for translation - I'm a different anon but I'm also curious for the translation
Oh my god, you are right! I forgot we are totally not allowed to talk about the
pettiest things here. My bad, let's debate endlessly about people's fat stomachs, this is not petty at all kek asf
The only time debating about fatties has a point here though is when the cow complains about it and does nothing, or is in denial.
Messy makeup/clothes also depends on the cow. Kaya is a slob so her non ironed skirt is obviously her being lazy instead of making a statement or going back to the scene's roots.
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IDK if you're the real deal but - kady's screenshots are pretty lulzy so. I don't think she(you?) will be dropped any time soon
I will never understand why do you cows think that because we like gossip we are losers, ugly, etc. Like you don't gossip. To be honest, I think we must have pretty good looking people among us because we don't fall for any pretty face on the internet. I, for one, I'm pretty good looking and I'm not afraid to say it (to quote yourself).
Try to sue lolcow or something, you're not going to be the first that tries and goes nowhere. Do you really think that each one of us will end up with a penalty for sharing and commenting screenshots of publicly available content on the internet that you provide yourself?! This is not going to happen.
For it to be slander, we would have to be making things up about you, which we are not. We provide commentary to people's posts, videos etc. You can't sue because you don't like our opinion.
And yes Kady, you are doing something wrong: you overshare. Which you really shouldn't, given the fact that you
post online that you leave your daughters waiting in the car while you have sex, and that they listen to you having loud sex with your boyfriends.
Not the cow, this wise anon decided to impersonate for the 2nd time.
They're banned for attempting to deceive the farm.
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is it even healthy for Kaya to be in the attic so much?
it's freezing cold, I imagine it's pretty damp in there. she's going to get sick sooner or later
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Samefag but Kaya literally hoards food in her attic.
it's all food that's full of sugar and salt of course. this is exactly why she can't lose weight
Well then you must be that fucking thick then. You can’t sue anyone on here.
Take your flabby saggy old ass skin and go have that “great loud sexy” in front of your children, like the great mother you are.
And if you’re “not hanging around to defend yourself”, fuck off then? Keep posting your sad personal life online for us though, it’s great fun. Especially watching how much you fuck your kids up!
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Does this look flabby to you? I didn't think so. I'm hot and I know it and you just can't handle it or the free way I live my life. My kids are fine they're going to grow up and be confident women because of me. You don't like the way I live my life so stop looking at my shit! I'm not going to change anything for anyone just because a bunch of losers want to spy on me and make me look bad. Don't hate me cause you ain't me. I bet you're all fat ugly chicks and guys that can't get laid. I'm outta here, I have better things to do than hang around. I've proven my point and I've seen people on here saying that they think I'm hot so there you go, I get validation even in a hate thread!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Men will fuck literally anything, even fat chicks. Even you, with those flat pancake tits. It’s not really a great way to validate your self and existence, but go off.
The file name adds fuel that this is a troll but either way- seek help.
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With posts like this it's hard to believe it's not her. Anyone else notice the sudden lack of over sharing ever since she first got mentioned here? These cows that pretend to be above it all but so obviously aren't crack me tf up kek
Cue the "I'M not a vendettachan, YOU'RE a vendettachan! Like Kaya and IBF and Jake are milky enough to be talked about all the time, why can't other people get mentioned?? I forgot
we were not allowed to talk about anyone else sarcasm sarcasm" comments
There is no Emily Boo thread. Minimod anon can't admit she was wrong.
site:lolcow.farm "emily boo"
Well you're the only one not saging for posts without milk for one…
also mods have magical powers. just stop lol
I imagine they have since she did mention aaaages ago their landlord came over to check the attic was suitable for what they had in mind, so I'm sure asbestos was tested for too?>>797895
Well said anon, he was "normal" before trying to copy Neistat, now he's going for this retarded dark look. It's embarrassing.
She is such an idiot for explicitly drawing more attention to RTG's videos. All of them have actual proof of every fucked up thing her dumbass husband has said. Going on a crusade over it seems even more pathetic after her recent attempt to address other rumors was so widely called out and debunked.
Maybe they're scared the daughter or someone else involved will actually step up and publicly confirm it all.
Guess who is about to make a comebackhttps://www.instagram.com/pennangalan/
Yes, the same company that was selling pikes made by owner of scam known as Gothic Shoe Company.
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Aaand this was her response:
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And here are the comments. And, of course, her mum wrote there, too.
Of course she's never outright said that, but the constant hauls IMPLY it
Why do people like IBF and TT always respond to criticism and negative comments toward them, even if it's just ONE, rather than acknowledge the positive comments? You know, the people who pay their bills.
I translated the article (translation isn't the best as I used Google Translate but hopefully it could be of use to someone):
"The following YouTube soap opera, which at first glance looks like a multimedia mud fight between English-speaking ghost vloggers, has a quite serious background at second glance. The accusation: The "unboxing" videos, in which YouTube starlets such as Black Friday unpack huge packages of high-end brand-name clothes, would leave a completely overpriced dress code with the viewers, which young viewers can not afford.
is the creator Ruadhán, who is quite rude about a video about Gothic YouTube star Black Friday. In the video "I'm so sorry", in which BF apologizes for her lengthy abstinence, she also addresses the many messages she receives from young people who "like to be Goth but can not afford it" (5 : 20) For Ruadhán the matter is clear, because in his video "Aging Goth Thinks That ItsBlackFriday Needs to Quit Her Crap" he says that Black Friday itself is the problem, (3:51) Because they're doing that "fucking" sponsored videos "from the brands Killstar and Punkrave, which would suggest to the kids to be a" real goth "only in these branded clothes. Reason are videos like "Biggest Killstar Unboxing Ever!" And other videos of this style, which are not for Ruadhán as an advertisement, "that they do not even mark!
In the past, when you talked to Daniela about the exhausted couches of his gothics club about Michael and Sabine, Youtuber nowadays throw so-called "reaction" videos in their virtual living room. Viewers can then enjoy the mind and the associated emotions and pursue their innate voyeurism.
Between those who earn money with advertisements, product placements and shop links with YouTube, self-promoters frolick with a certain need for a lumpy black mass of videos. For the viewer that is sometimes hard to distinguish - it should not be. Because only when YouTuber come across authentically, so lifelike and with all the emotional ups and downs, they gather many fans around their person.
It is sometimes frighteningly strange how "influencers" share their private lives in sound and vision just to satisfy the audience, and then in the next breath with a "haul" or "review" their other sponsors, sponsors and companies , to satisfy. Of course you can also be jealous if Black Friday gets a whole Killstar shopping delivered to you for free, but you must never forget the price you pay for it. To be commentated by spectators on his life requires a high degree of self-confidence. If you do not have that, break it. Sometimes even like in a soap opera - highly dramatic and full of tears."
I find irony in that Ruadhan 1337 bitches and moans about ebeggers and divorce drama when he begs for gofuckme donations and complains about his ex cheating him out of $$$ in his video descriptions.
Takes one to know one, I guess!!!!
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sage if no milk.>>798094
her mother is VERY overbearing. I wonder how her mother feels about IBF not refunding/not paying back viewers who bought "tickets" to the wedding she didn't have to Mister Owl before her visa marriage…is it the viewers' fault they got scammed or the scammers' fault for scamming?
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Huh, yeah, how bout that? Its almost like he was talking about something completely different from what you said. Really dinks a dunk.
Typical mindless "supportive" comments, vaguely praise the first person and call the other person immature/jealous. And Jesus IBF's mum needs to stop stalking her. Boundaries, anyone?>>798236>Kaya: Maybe he's trying to offer you what I can't
Perhaps she's just joking how the guy has a dick and she doesn't.
But yeah their relationship must be platonic. Like they're together out of habit, and Kaya's YT cash ofc.
i genuinely wonder if freyja is embarrassed by her mum, because i would be embarrassed as hell of that were my mum. adopt a dog or something, karen.
also her fan base concerns me, it's like she can do no wrong in their eyes. a good fanbase should be able to accept valid
criticism. it's like she could commit murder and they would still defend her. no wonder her content (that is, when she actually makes it) is such crap.
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I'm calling it now, she's pregnant.
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She says she's not>>798309
Yeah she's probably just trying to hide her fat with that hand
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Christ, he's like some chubby half joker, half manson wannabe. How does anyone find this appealing.
At this point, she'd have to commit murder or do another big scam to wake up her gullible fans.>>798368
I was wondering what happened to her. Seems that things were a bit much for her to take and she took some time off and I agree, it's a good call instead of putting it all out there for everyone to see.
If this idiot smeared any more black greasepaint on his face, he'd get mistaken for a minstrel act.
Inb4 "it's not black face". I know hes not being racist, he just looks like a dumb ass from 1875 with all that shoe polish on his face and neck.
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All I see is this. He's such a dumbass
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A million filters also helps, you stupid cow. You're still ugly, but now you're fake AND ugly and you have the gall to act like you're hot?
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IBF's remarkably tasteless take on the whole Notre Dame situatio
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i meant situation
and this is why she's a cow. Boo hoo, I didn't feel I'd be welcomed walking into a gothic icon and catholic church festooned in killstar luciferian trinkets. So rather than tone it down by simply wearing, i dunno, black, I chose not to see it at all and then play victim
about it. Fixed it for ya, twat.
But a gothic building got burned, the goff kween's got to comment.>>798910
Poor me, didn't have the energy to whine about being (rightly) asked to tone down for a holy place. And this tiny thing years ago makes me relevant to the burning now.
She's referring to this:
PARIS DRAMA - Louvre and Pere Lachaise Hate Goths
Published on Jan 24, 2017
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damn those wrinkles are bad.
I guess I assumed Jake would have a skin care routine but it seems not
>>799299>you can tone down your look if you really wanted to visit these places
But her goffness would be tainted! Security are just meanies! But, they give her free stuff if she cries hard enough.
Seriously they gave free Louvre passes to shut her up.
She tries that crying tactic everywhere, instead of being an adult. Like at the UK border. She deadass thought that would work?
It was confirmed in Raven's thread that it was indeed Raven herself posing as Kady.>>799243
He looks older than Mr Owl
>>799308>they give her free stuff if she cries hard enough
Mantra of every entitled person ever.
IBF does this with her patrons too. Whines that life is so hard, so they'll throw cash at her. Basically monetising petty drama.
>they gave free Louvre passes to shut her up.Oof
, forgot they did that. But surely the passes have expired by now?
She's really running out of ideas kek
Tinfoil and reaching but I wonder if the racist allegations bothered her enough to do this
Dear God I fucking hate this cunt so much. If she actually cared about seeing these land marks she could just tone her look down for 1/2 a day. But no, her goffness is too important! She's clearly oppressed by the evil normies!
I think when she goes out she likes to be stared at and draw attention, in on of her videos where she dresses "normal" she pointed out that no one was staring at her and you could tell it bothered her.
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Moving back to New Zealand would be like quitting?
Did Mr. Owl change his mind about moving countries then? Wasn’t his reluctance the reason why they broke up the first time?
One needs a permit to move to Scotland too. Plus Scotland is still EU and
she’s already been booted from the UK once. You can’t just walz on in there with all of your worldly belonging and two cats and slip in on a tourist visa.
He has posted 8 videos so far (plus a re-edit). Something something methinks the lad doth protest too much.
A prime criticism is the fact that he does not address the accusations of financial abuse / extortion.
>>799538>"So sorry for my absence! Gonna return with better than ever content, i have cool stuff planned!">skincare haul video>DNA test video
Just finish packing and stop covering it up with filler videos, and decide whether or not you're moving to Scotland already.>>799653
She got her UK visa reapproved
From previous threads and various postings on twitter/insta I'd say he doesnt. if he does he never talks about them, ever.
but IBF has mentioned "we want kids someday" implying neither has kids yet but plan to.
She got approved to come in and out as a tourist for six months, and that was sometime last year.
That is not permission to move there.
I never understand this story. I visited a lot of sacred places and cemeteries in France and NEVER i was kicked out ( and my way to dress is at another level than IBF in scarying people)
I really don’t undestand and i guess we have just a part of the true story(blog)
You can be sure that in addition to whatever she was wearing to bring attention to herself, IBF was also waving her stupid selfie stick around. She even said in some recent video that she’d rather ask for forgiveness than permission. Some of these places — I’m thinking of the louvre — require prior written permission to film, and plenty of touristy places ban selfie sticks.
So fuck IBF and her entitled princess act. It’s boring. And it’s not goff.
Predators do tend to target unstable people; it makes them easier to manipulate, as they've often got some underlying issues that the predator can exploit, plus its easier to get away with things if the victims
are obviously actually untrustworthy too.
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was wondering if he needed permission or not, especially since the song is up for sale on itunes.
he's also planning on doing a cover of a song from repo: the genetic opera and putting it on patreon. since he's plugging that, i think it's really misleading to call himself a daily blogger since he neither vlogs nor posts daily content. he can't ever keep a regular schedule and the rewards seem pretty meager.
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It looks like Adora has dumped Sireplague who she was dating(?). There are photos of them together in March, but she is no longer following him, and posted this:
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[reposting from the last thread]
Inb4 he gets sued by Rodgers and Hammerstein!https://www.rnh.com/license-request-song.html
An arrangement (or "cover") of an arrangement still uses the same source material and is subject to intellectual property law regarding the source material.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/19/business/media/ariana-grande-7-rings-rodgers-hammerstein.html
The song is credited to a total of 10 writers. But two of them — Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II — control 90 percent of the songwriting royalties, a remarkable split that reflects the value of evergreen song catalogs, and of the negotiating leverage their owners have when pop stars come seeking permission.
In an especially speedy turnaround, the deal for “7 Rings” was decided a few weeks before the song’s release in January, when representatives for Ms. Grande and her label, Republic, brought the completed song to Concord, the music company that has owned the Rodgers and Hammerstein catalog since 2017. Concord requested 90 percent of Ms. Grande’s song, and her representatives accepted without further negotiation.
Ms. Grande’s song “wouldn’t exist in its current form were it not for ‘My Favorite Things,’” Jake Wisely, Concord’s chief publishing executive, said in an interview.
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This is so gross. Bitch, who cares how much you spend. It still doesn't change how ugly your materialism is. Someone get me a bucket.
I didn't think I'd be defending miss horseface today, but I think she's just hoping on the bandwagon anon. There's a lot of youtubers spending 600+ on makeup brands or clothing to review. I think she's just joining in to get new subscribers.
>>800233>she's not goth,
except she is
you don't have to like someone, but it takes more than that to negate someone being a goth
Hmm it's kinda hard to spent that much without leaving shop with a truck IMHO.
Unless she mainly bought perfumes
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Forgot to include photo, here ya go
also 1 AUD = ~0.7 USD
including screen caps would be helpful.>>800387
idk how old he is but 17 isn't the age of consent in some states. if they're just dating and not having sex it's still creepy as fuck.
What happened to the other chick he was with? She age out of his preferred age range "'ew, she's 18?? What an old hag time to dump her!" kek. And is he still going around calling people 'beaners'? >>799172
Probably because they're actually alternative and her only interests are things 13 year old emo kids are into. Who knows, maybe Raven is trying to attract another child bride. I'm just curious as to why she continues to post on a thread where the majority of the anons are goths. She said the scene and the people and the music sucked, so why does sis keep bothering with us?
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Killstar given bitch more what do they see in her
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You are the definition of a transtrender, holy shit.
Right? Just because
xir only dresses feminine, presentes as a female in any and every way and dates like a heterosexual female it doesn't mean xir's a woman! Don't you see that her given name is the masculine Sebastian? God, people! Wake up!
But seriously, you are just a white middle class suburban mid 20s woman called Taylor.
(And taylor is even a genderless name kek)
Sorry, I meant her chosen
name. Her given name is Taylor
This just screams:
I'M NOT LIKE ALL THE OTHER GIRLS!!!
Bitch, get a hold of your unchecked internalized misogyny. You are an ADULT.
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Is it just me or is it hella weird that Adora altered her daughters dress to be shorter and tighter?
It's her underage daughter and she displays her body on a platter for all the weirdos on the web.
If she really wanted to be a guy who likes feminine things, like Jeffree Star or some shit, she'd get reassignment and then present fem.
>i was born a girl and choose to stay that way>i present as a girl of my own will
Congrats, you're a girl.
If his version is up on iTunes, then it's cos he's using DistroKid, or a similar service that allots royalties to the original songwriter.>>800652
Yeah, SC has a serious case of Not Like the Other Girls. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt for a long time, but over the last few years, especially, she's made it really hard to.
There are really only a handful of people calling themselves Non-binary who I can really take seriously.
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found Angela Benedict on poshmark…imagine thinking anyone cares
Why do these women hate being women so much? Sebastian would be better off saying she thinks men are superior to women. "Non-binary" just means you don't care about what you wear, fucking clothes. She and Dorian don't have gender dysphoria, just two creepy grown women trying to be teenage boys forever. Both are heavily feminine and only date men, like most women, I don't get it. >>800900
I like Angela but she is almost 40 years old and is still talking about when she was 16 this and that. Just buy the damn bodice and go.
I don't see it as creepy either. You are a teenager, you find a cute dress that's too big, you want it to look better on your body, mom knows how to sew: mom adjusts it for you.
It looks totally normal, not indecent or anything. Like when you were a teenager you didn't wore tight and short clothes. Yeah, you all dressed like Shirley Temple until you were 18 kek asf>>800900
That's hilarious! It truly sounds like someone sarcastically impersonating her for the lulz but no, it's bitch herself! She's completely obssessed with her past and how it gives her some kind of goth cred. Which is weird because she still looks super young, the kind of person I see still dressing weirdly, going to shows and events, just living! But she acts like she only has these memories… bitch, get out of the house, go dancing, dress outrageously, live
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Looks like she moving .wonder when she hit Scotland or Ireland .like she doing it herself .
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What's up with her new photo? It looks cool but shooped into oblivion.
Meh give it a few more years and she'll drop this ridiculousness. They usually do lol.>>800966
Non-binary is just codeword for attention-whore who has no real personality. I'm sorry but most people I see using the term are boring girls who have no real personality and think that just because they wear an androgynous style, it makes them more interesting than they actually are.
SC and Dorian are the worst kind of this though, I must admit. >>800967
I kinda understand Angela's nostalgia. I can't remember which video it was but in it she was talking about how she wasn't herself for a decade when she was with this emotionally abusive
boyfriend who was always trying to change her and hated her interest in Goth. She wanted the relationship to work out not realizing how toxic
it was until she finally realized and got out of it.
I think the reason why she reminisces so much about her past and the 90s in general is because that was the time where she was very happy and then the 00s came and that is when she got into that toxic
relationship and fell out of touch with the scene for a good while.
So I mean, I can understand it to a degree. >>801035
Is that Toxic
Tears? Yeah, shopped out the max for sure. It's a cool pic but uh… lol
it's a shame you can still see her lumpy acne.
at 29 years of age she should probably look into getting that professionally treated
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Someone not having good Monday .love to see her doing this all bat Queen in her velvet
>>801207>>801209>Kaya is a famous people
C'mon now, she's not that
she will be 26 this year. I knew chav boy was older than her by about a year or so, she was still in school when he pursued her. I find it amusing how she tries to hide her age, it doesn't make you any younger Kaya
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Were dose it end with this toxic human has she ever heard of work not be lazy she waist of human get of your fat ass and do it . everything is money .
I find that kind of stuff so ridiculous. If you're gonna be renting a place, it's really not worth it because if you ever move out (and you most likely will), you'll have to re-paint the walls back to the way they were…>>801259
If she actually had a work ethic, she would've been able to have that garden by now. Look how long it took her to finally clean her attic lol.
What happened to the plants she put in last year? Were they all annuals? Or did she kill them all with her laziness?>>800987
Do we have an artist anon in this thread?
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Keeping your options open there, Jake?
That’s true, but most people, even most goths don’t paint an entire room, walls and ceiling, black. Trust me, I have been that goth, going over a purple, nearly black wall three or four times.
But yeah I’d also love to see her ruining some velvet.
>>798083>BTW notice that posts there were made around the same time Goth Pikes had their "holidays"
more I think about that - the more it makes sense
It kinda seems like all or at least most of pikes were made by one team only in at least a decade if not longer. Under several labels of "disappearing companies" or as bulk orders from different alt shoes distributors. They are exactly the same models being sold by all these disappearing "companies" and also Undeground, Nevermind, Demonia etc. but with only different cutout of shoes. And Pennangalan even reposted on their instagram page ( https://www.instagram.com/pennangalan/
) exactly the same models they were selling in the past that are known to be made by (a team of?) owner of Gothic Shoe Company.
I certainly don't understand enthusiasm of people saying we shall wait until Goth-Pikes "ends adding new items to the shop" and don't complain.
They have not been contacting their customers for months now. Many people canceled their pay pal payments. And Goth Pikes acts like nothing fucking happened. Goth Pikes has been refusing disclosing closer information about their affiliations with Gothic Shoe Company for like a year now too. And Goth-Pikes "changes of locations" - initially they were supposedly from Germany, later they switched to UK only location in Glasgow and now few days ago Google was pointing their address as located in Berlin. No online registry of companies from both the UK and Germany contain any information about anything called "Goth Pikes" or "Goth-Pikes" etc or any company located at any of these disclosed addresses.
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So right she has everything have free she put this up showing her new killstar bedding price at 89.99.that was free to her still say she so low and sad how on earth do she things any of those fools that are fans going buy that you think she fixs it better on the bed .she told waist of human .I wish I had her life just give me free thing and people pay my way give me queen of goth.i can't Waite till she get big wake forest call .
I thought she said she was getting her acne treated by her doctor?
(saged cuz no milk)
Eh okay I guess. I just think about the work you'd have to do to restore the walls back to normal lol.>>801464
I feel like Ruadhan 1334 gave her a bit of that though not about her boyfriend situation if I remember correctly.
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imagine what she looks like in the morning lol
my goth potato queen
Not the original anon, but there are some pretty serious studies indicating that the genetic quality of sperm degraded as men age, making it more likely that children they father after 40ish will have genetically linked health issues. To my knowledge, this isn’t yet fully proven, but at least a valid
theory deserving further research.
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Never watched this video from Amy before, it's an hour long and the parts I skipped through are boring. I thought the desc was kinda interesting. Always found it weird she would put goth and industrial together, she is a rivethead, you'd think she knows the different lmao>>800987
It is pretty funny. IBF wearing white grease paint, a long expensive velvet PunkRave dress, with some big ass boots, and a veil with horns on top of her head just to get some paint and paint her apartment. >>801442
Lol, I'm starting to think Jake is only copying Manson because 1. He wants to be a weirdo so badly and 2. Because he's trying to revive shock-rock. I personally don't see his music catching onto modern freaky kids. He has that scene singing voice (can't explain it any better, reminds me of the vocalist from pierce the veil almost) and the music itself sounds like literally every normie "metal" band from 2013.
Yeah that was always one thing I really didn't like about her videos when she would use Goth and Industrial interchangeably with phrases like "GothIndustrial". Don't get me wrong, she's super informative with Industrial and she obviously knows a lot about the subgenres of Industrial. But it's annoying how she unintentionally (or intentionally) puts the two together with the whole "GothIndustrial" thing when they aren't the same.
And agreed on Jake, I know what you mean by the shock-rock thing but his music just sucks. I'm all too familiar with that "Scene" singing style and it's just horrid (no offense to those who like it) and his base instrumentals are generic as fuck and I don't see his band catching on neither. >>801760
My guess is that she'll probably try plugging her Patreon much more often or may even try some sort of scam and then make up some random excuse of some mishap that happened out of her control. I'd like to think she'd get a part-time job but yeah, she's been out of work for so long that I don't think she'd really want to go back to it. This is why she's better off staying in NZ with her money and saving up to live there>>801768
How old do you think she is? I thought she was born in 1993? It's just that her bad habits make her look older than she actually is.
IBF is a New Zealand citizen. she needs a residency visa to move to Scotland, which is part of the uk, which is still EU. It’s actually super difficult to immigrate there. Unless she manages to land a well paid job that’s not going to happen.
said, we know that won’t happen.
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Her ex husband is away with his new girlfriend she left alone so why not go back home then go true this .
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Here's rest of milk what on earth is she thinking.big sad goth life what about poor cats she needs to wise up .
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This girl is such bitch I work in club were she is most weekends with her goth friends who all think they are Belfast best needs good wash and her nails so dirty under them .for Jake he is so nasty thinks he above everyone.i don't know why anyone won't be around them .
She's so contradictory
on the one hand she hangs out with "goths" (more like darkly inclined hipsters by the looks of it though) yet on the other hand she'll bitch and moan that Belfast has no goth or alternative scene so she can't do anything or go anywhere. Why can't she just admit she doesn't want to interact with ACTUAL goths because she's a poser?>>801870>It's crazy how someone who loses their virginity behind a dumpster can still try to act so far up their own arse
kek! do spill more, I can't stand TT and Jake they've always been so far up their own asses
I'm not very good at these replies so sorry for that, I normally just lurk and give myself a giggle at the fact that the majority of things on here are pretty accurate.
I've never liked her, I was just unfortunate to be a weirdo who hung about Belfast Waterfront/occasionally Bangor and was friend's with alot of her "bff's". Who when she wasn't around liked to tell me stories - true or not her mates hated her and I don't really understand why they kept her around - I suppose that's why she's no real contact with any of them except for Grant who's popped back up for the scene for some reason.
The problem with her disliking the scene is probably because she doesn't stand out as much as she did when she was younger - there's alot more "alternative/goth" people about Belfast nowdays and alot of them far more attractive than her so it's probably jealousy as well - especially when she thought she was hot shit back in the day. (Don't get me wrong if she didn't sharpie her eyebrows on, took them cheap dreads out and washed her roots atleast she'd probably would've been quite unique and pretty.) As alot of people can tell it's simply because she's hungry…For attention - that wasn't a fat joke.
The only real genuine spice I got was from my ex boyfriend, who back in her earlier tumblr days she'd post photo's of her and him from the Italian photography guy and refer to him as "Ex Boyfriend" - my ex claimed to me they were never a couple and even if he was extremely drunk during the majority of these "photoshoots" he'd not touch her with a pole. He always says she was filth and the fact is she's only ever around people because they "can't get rid of her" and now with a following gives people an excuse to actually make a bit of use of her before they chuck her.
But yeah, I've not alot more information because this was way back in teenage years and you don't know what's fact and what someone's just saying to give us all a giggle. As for this Jake freak, I've only been in contact with him once for a few minutes and thankfully didn't have to hear him or really look at him.
The only information I know of him is what I've read and that they met on that Vampirefreaks website yonks ago.
Summery really is she's always been dirty, a liar, attention seeking, "woe is me" attitude, fake friends, a leech & has terrible taste in men.
PPS. The information about the dumpster is from her ex "BFF" who used to be in the same photoshoots with her aswell. Skinny guy who used to wear them terrible plastic falls she wore.
I remember being in Burger King and looking out at City Hall at Kaya and her ex boyfriend(Matt) and him pointing and shouting about the place how her and Matt a few days prior screwed behind a dumpster, she lost her virginity and everyone knew because it was during or after a photoshoot(?)
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Poor cats that's all she has .cats need good home away from her .
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Do you wonder what people see in her .as she comes across to me in club as bitch she so up her self .I seen that other guy with long black hair with them and you can see Jake not happy when he's around but I think it all for fame. I just waiting for day she took back to real life and out of her queen of goth as she not like other on scene .also anyone on here she loves to drink loads and she ment to have depression .face is really bad .I hate seen them coming .and way they talk about people that give them money have saide what ever they won't fools will give as they so poor .I hope people wise up .
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I followed her because she's cute but she's always crying about money on her IG stories and shoving her ugly "girlfriend" in. She's just a trendhopper anyway she used to be a blonde nugoth with a huge twitter following. Now she's trying the whole lolita thing. I give it a year tops.
Anon It's a good idea not to follow poseurs in general, it's pretty obvious just from looking at this picture that she's a fake. They try so hard at the goth "look" but fail because they don't realize the look comes with the music. >>801927
Wouldn't doubt. What's with poseurs self-posting in these threads lately? No one is going to slurp their ass here and call them cute. >>801898
They think she's a good person. Kaya is a bully, all the things she made fun of in the past are what she looks like now. "Haha, fat girls amirite" now she is a fat acne infested mess.
>>801932>They think she's a good person. Kaya is a bully, all the things she made fun of in the past are what she looks like now. "Haha, fat girls amirite" now she is a fat acne infested mess.
It's mostly because her fanbase doesn't know of her past antics and even if they did, they probably wouldn't care because people can change (which is true). Don't forget that Kaya puts on this sweet, soft-spoken persona. I fell for that which is what kept me from thinking ill of her until I started getting annoyed of her constant whining about her lack of weight loss while still gorging on unhealthy drinks/desserts she'd post on her social media.
She may have changed in the sense that she she no longer makes fun of fat people now that she herself became one of them but she's now a lazy, sloth-like e-begger who is pretty much on her last legs of e-fame before she loses it in her 30s when a new, younger mallcore girl takes her place.
excuse me but what the FUCK is her pillow. looks like she borrowed from tuna
why do these cows never use sheets/covers?
That's interesting because she always makes out she's not a big drinker or very keen on alcohol.
That electric board or whatever it's called, even her "exercise" is lazy… get a proper skateboard and use some skill bitch.
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What great life she has .don't work just dress up look sad in photo take money .bitch get a job grow up
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This grown man has something wrong with him this is for his next YouTube video he was on IG live .all his fan girls telling him you so cool love look .it's look that's long gone .
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i can't believe Kaya was ever this pretty.
Peachmilky admitted on IG stories that she was 28 years old. She's so much younger and prettier than 26 year old Kaya.
I bet it kills Kaya that Sophie is a big model in Japan
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So sad goth that so alone was at some farm today as her IG story more in likely with her goth friend.this person who never leaves the house.
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Wtf is wrong with him as he won't to drive get a car but his fans will have pay for it.told waist of space .Jake get real job and grow up
He is really insufferable.
Imagine writing up such a pretentious paragraph just to say>I'm starting driving lessons soon so will need to increase my e-begging to cover the costs, so look forward to that
What is the hashtagrinchkidsofbelfast supposed to mean?
Everyone knows about the feet/cleaning guys. She herself used to talk about that without shame. She had guys who were into foot fetish come to her home and she would let them smell her feet, socks and they'd pay by cleaning her house. If you ask me that's the only thing she ever did that I can respect hahahah at least she was offering the guys something in return being a domme. Now she just begs. I bet if she wanted to get back at being a domme it would work, there's a lot of men who would like to be submiss to a giantress, chubby or not.
Her poor cats. Also, does anyone know where her birds are? I'm sure she had birds… isn't it also kind of stupid to have birds when you have cats? Then you can't let them out of their cage! But why would I even think she cares about her animals' well being…>>801947
I assume it's because she's packing all her stuff in Germany but still… I wouldn't sleep without covers, it's gross. >>802024
Yes it's crazy, but she was just lucky with her metabolism when she was younger. Not anymore kek
Last night someone posted a screenshot of a pic IBF posted of Moonmoon needing a bath because she sat in paint remover or primer or something.
The post was deleted before I could expand the pic - anyone have a mirror?
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It looks like toxic lot were out in Belfast today this is person who has no life or money she has her goth crew .no Jake just two new guys .
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She just put this up about her hand .
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And this one shortly after. Damn she sure made no friends, she painted all of this alone. I remember reading in one of her recent ''ask me anything'', how the german language prevented her from making any ''real friends''.
From what I've observed from her vlogs in Germany, it seems like the goths there don't like her at all. Sure she has fans (who were uh, pretty obvious as they were trying to dress as her) there, but everyone else in the background was glaring at her or rolling their eyes. Her few friends seem to have dropped her these days. >>802154
How badly must she smell for dudes who have stinky feet fetishes to come around and sniff her socks/feet? Kek. She needs to advertise her smelly feet again, maybe they'll clean her moulding wet clothes.
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Look at the dirty wallpaper and what's with the tacky pound shop Halloween material on the ceiling bitch if you're going to make the effort to tack shit onto your ceiling at least get some nice quality material bet that room is dusty af
I'm so glad l stumbled upon this kind of threads. eye opening af.
I've always had an issue with the hoarders on the goffside of yt., but l gotta admit, l'm more on the gullible side and didn't think IBF was putting an act during all this time.
All around, really. Twitter, tumblr, etc. But it was some time ago so you'll have to dig a little. Search for ot in the past alt cow threads
About IBF, I don't get why the last posts are milk. If she paints the apartment alone, "she has no friends etc", of she had help from friends it would be that she relies on others to fix her shit.
The cat sat on a spill of something she dropped but was already cleaning and she promptly washed the cat, I don't see what she did wrong.
Sometimes the insane nitpicking in the thread kinda takes the fun out of it, it seems like we're obligated to find a reason to talk bad about anything any of these cows do, when that's not the point. They do a lot of shit worth talking, there's no need to make shit up
I agree with you on the cat story. Cats are unpredictable and act as they please. I didn't see a problem with it either.
Her painting her whole apartment alone is definitely weird for me. If you were moving or smth, wouldn't you like someone to lend you a hand?
She said it herself, not having ''real friends'' in Germany cuz language barrier and stuff.
I see your point, but respectfully disagree. IBF has already proven that she’s shit at planning and providing a good home for her pets. Those cats are just accessories for her to be dumped off on someone else whenever to travels for months at a time.
When painting, it’s a no brainer to keep your pets safe in a separate area because they are little demons who do what they want.
The painting without help is just kind of funny, and then also pathetic because she did this to herself. I’m sure she’s getting tons of sympathy from her fans though. Instead of interacting with actual humans in meat space, she collects online fans who kiss her ass.
As for German goths not liking her, I’ve been around when she filmed at mera luna and yes, there were people were rolling their eyes at her, but she also had a horde of fans following her, making selfies with her. Plenty of German goths her age speak English, so I’m just not buying the language barrier as an excuse. Sure it makes everyday life difficult, but in a place like Germany, it’s not a barrier to making friends. Rarely leaving your house and when you do, having a conversation with a stick? That was the barrier.
An "independent" adult would EARN their own money to pay for things, not bum off their fans with shit vlogs at the laundromat. Jake and Kaya are both overgrown children that refuse to work hard, they want everything handed to them with no effort. Is he going to start up a Go Fund Me to pay for a car, too? Pathetic.>>802273
I still believe people who feel the need to deck their house out like this are posers. Most goths can live in a "normal" looking house, they don't need to prove themselves in this way. If you have the money to spend (that you earned YOURSELF not donated to your lazy ass) then go for it, otherwise why bother? It seems like peacocking.
I completely agree with you though.
Many germans are really good English speakers, you could see in her festival vlogs that many could actually reply.
I didn't buy that german barrier bs either, l just quoted what she said in a very recent ask me anything on ig.
Saying she has no friends at all, even though that Valentin Winter guy designed an outfit for her in his little modelling show and inviting her with many other friends around Christmas time.
The constant lamenting and lack of self-reflection is really off putting.
And yes, she screwed up big time with so many choices. The black cat, Thanatos, would be better off with Matthias, and moon moon should have never left NZ. and ofc the poor birbs need a better home too.
Girlie can't even take a proper care of herself. Highkey really worried about her pets.
She just doesn't learn. When they first moved from Osnabrück, she had to repaint some sections, but it wasn't as crazy as this time.
The initial white walls would have showcased the home decor better anyway imo.
So really, painting everything red and black was one bad choice.
I saw her recently saying that she moved all her clothes to a storage facility. Does that apply to all the furniture and home decor?
I'd like to know how this kind of stuff works.
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That cryptic post about things not going well was not about Sireplague. Doubtful it was about Coalcandy either.
Dating sucks. Got to be harder when you’re committed to a lifestyle and looking for someone who vibes (and isn’t a young thing)
Just watch anon, like all people like this she will be cut off at some point where the free stuff will cease coming and when that day comes, I am pretty sure we'll see her e-beggging more from her fanbase for money to buy the stuff. It's going to be interest to see lol.>>802226
Well if she actually bothered to really try learning the language, she could've probably made some friends but it's obvious she didn't and she relied too much on Matthias to translate for her.>>802305
Though gotta agree, these house cleanup posts aren't really much. But I think people are just fascinated that she has to do it on her own with help from no one.>>802354
Pretty much said the same thing, there's just no point painting from top to bottom a place you are just renting that you most likely won't be staying in forever. It may be all fun and games at first when you're beginning but the end result when you have to move just doubles the workload.>>802362
I've never been to Germany but if there really are a lot of people who speak English there then yeah, it really does come down to the fact that she cared more about her e-fame (carrying the selfie stick with her) then interacting with the world around her. >>802370
Eh I can see that happening where they most definitely will do a Go Fund me to get a car… And agreed, most of us Goth do just fine living in a normal house, we don't need to deck everything in "GOFF" stuff to show we are GOFFICK. But this is Kaya/Jake we're talking about, we already know they're the biggest posers of the posers of current day Goff YouTube.>>802386
Oh right, I forgot they did that. I'm sure if she asked Valentin or his friends for help, they would've probably done it if they had the time depending on whether they got close to her or not.
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This is grow woman sitting in nightdress and dirty mirror.this is her life just sitting around getting money for nothing they were to do 12 hours twitch today and not even done that .both are bad as each other to busy looking in mirror saying they are goths of belfast .
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Anon I think if she got job got away from internet but she such a bitch why post shite like this when for 2 days she was out with her goth friends .she needs to get her shite together and grow up .
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This grown man needs help .make up advice from dick head.
>>802431>I think people are just fascinated that she has to do it on her own
Yep, especially since she's used to stuff being handed to her (and crying for the camera when they aren't)>>802493
So Mr Incredible had sex with Fasttrack, then threw the result in a tar pit. That's not so bad, since that would've been my reaction too.
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Jake wants to make roleplay asmr videos..my skin is crawling.
he seems to think he's good at voices too, can't wait for that trainwreck
For me, the blueish smear above his lip and those black teeth are just too much. And who needs a tutorial for this.
Asmr with this kind of look? Nah l'll pass.
I checked when the anon made that post and she isn’t following Sireplague but they seem to be friends still.
There are a few that she used to hang out with but doesn’t anymore, like Xilmordas, she followed him and hanged with him but not anymore either, and I’m pretty sure that a few months ago she wasn’t following Victoria (someone had made a post about it and it was true) but after a few days she was following her again. Maybe she’s just mentally unstable and is breaking friendships only to fix everything up after a few days.
And she hasn’t written anything about Ras after a while, maybe it was about him.
I feel kind of bad for Adora, whatever happened with the divorce hit her hard.
Since they got so much crap offered, he could at least put on some color corrector, to hide the stubble.
I'm no makeup professional, but when you wanna learn smth, you do your research. Honestly now l mostly watch ''normal'' youtubers, at least many of them are really professional and take their ''job'' seriously.
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Some milk that lazy toxic put up
When you cling onto so much crap, you can only struggle with organizing it.
She could just donate, or giveaway stuff, but we all know those aren't valid
options for her.
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Don't know if this is milk .
But there isn’t much milk about the real reason for her divorce. We know she def was whoring around with her boy toys but maybe the husband was unfaithful?
She seemed so into him that it’s so hard to believe that she threw her perfect (according to her) marriage and husband for some 20 something boy who surely would leave at some point.
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Now we going have his dark people doing this . so not goth or cool it's outdated.
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Another Killstar haul, what a surprise.
So she complains about people saying she only does hauls and unboxings, asks her viewers what they want to see, then proceeds to churn out the same shit regardless? God I hope her subs drop like flies and her channel dies
side note: that fucking ACNE and greasy hair. yikes.
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There’s this cryptic message from April. She says she fucked something up 5 years ago. Wonder if that’s when she and her husband opened up their relationship maybe? Who knows. For someone who has such a public life, she is remarkably good at keeping the milk to herself.
Lmao, this is most of the "goth" side of YouTube. Hauls, insane people, zero discussion about goth music (if there is any discussion about goth music, it's always the cookie cutter bands we all know and love), and weird metalheads claiming to be goth. Had hope in Freyja, but she sold out. Also, did anyone mention her reviewing an emo album but totally ignoring the free one she got from Merciful Nuns? >>803056
I think Adora is going through a mid-life crisis ever since the divorce. It explains a lot of her actions, just her trying to prove she's still "got it".
Imagine being a person almost approaching 30 with no meaningful work experience, education or career.Kaya, if you're reading this, get something to fall back on for when your bubble inevitably bursts, seriously does she think this is going to last forever? At least Jake has something
to go back to it seems.She is playing a dangerous game here.
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I mean she did post her dream wedding cake, is she still thinking about it? Also what’s with her obsession with minions?
Valentin Winter seems to be the only German blogger who keeps defending her bullshit on ig.
I heard Manicmoth once tried to suck up to IBF but was completely ignored. Not surprising that IBF doesn't have any friends if she's acts that.
Manicmoth is pretty milky by herself lol. According to some people from her home town, she always looks unkempt and greasy in real life, you wouldn't recognize her without make up. Blotchy complexion and bad teeth to match.
I don't see anything wrong with not being gothed/dolled up all the time. She runs her own online shop for jewelry and added clothes too, so you can only guess how time consuming and tiring it is.
I haven't heard about this, maybe you gotta look über trad goth to be her friend?
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I took the time to scroll all the way down, and this is all l found.
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Back when she was best friends with Cajsa. I dunno what happened between those two. Checked the other pics, nothing special, really.
>>803192>maybe you gotta look über trad goth to be her friend?
I believe her qualifications for friendship are being an über trad goth and being a rabid fan of hers. A real friend would give her constructive criticism and advice but a rabid fan would tell her everything she does is perfect and right. I couldn't see IBF with real friends, only enablers and ass kissers who want to be YouTube's next goff kween. >>803104
E-fame hungry people never think of the after. When she's finally 30, the Patreon bux are dwindling, sub count going down because she's "old" to her very young fans. Next comes another mallgoth weeb who is skinnier and younger than she is getting all her followers.
The thing with her and Cajsa was like, Adora took her as her project girl like she usually does, I remember when she used to write all over the place about her helping Cajsa to ose weight and stuff like that. They did photos together, we’re always hanging, then Cajsa got a boyfriend that apparently didn’t like Adora and didn’t look too alternative. Around that time Adora was always talking about how she only had ultra goth friends, and all the crap with the UCG tag (Upper Class Goth). Then Victoria came into the picture and if you have followed her for years you will remember that Victoria didn’t look like she does now, she was like into the Lolita style and looked pretty Japanese dolly ish, not so goth.
But Adora gothified her, turned into a clone and Cajsas boyfriend and Cajsa started to kind of say that Victoria was copying Adora, that looked like her clone and so on. Adora had posted a big status on her Facebook about it, and had a pretty public discussion with Cajsa, of course those messages/posts are gone. But yeah that’s more or less what happened between them.
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Ibf is rehousing Thanatos
über trad goth lmao. You made my day.
Nothing wrong with not being dolled up. But it's quite a stretch from plain face for office job to business owners can't be bothered to shower.
One particular story I was told about was how Manicmoth bragged she can wear fake dreads for 8 weeks straight without washing her hair. Wtf it's gross if true.
>She runs her own online shop for jewelry and added clothes
Her clothing shop is gone. Official pr says it's merged with her jewelry shop. I suspect her business partner left. I wouldn't be surprised after all the weird stories I've heard.>>803318
aaand the animal abuser abandoned her cat as predicted. Happy, stable life with a kind person who will love him - it's like IBF is saying this is everything I'm not. It's totally revealing.
Heh l'm glad l did. I saw a whole lot of IBF's pics with ''friends'', and legit all of them were hardcore grufti. Seems like that's the requirement to befriend her.
If that's true about Manic Moth, then major ew.
Nah l didn't follow Victoria for that long, but l do remember her selling some pink and cutesy/lolitesque stuff from her closet.
I grew tired of her pretty quick cuz she's one walking billboard & her using a gofundme just to get in some fancy school in the US (I forgot what she wanted to study) was just too much.
No one was buying it and l don't even remember ppl giving her anything. This is some old milk though.
I don't understand either. Maybe his partner doesn't want pets in the apartment?
Highkey really sad about the cat. I couldn't imagine giving away mine. Hopefully he won't be neglected with his new owner.
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Here's Ofherbsandaltars being the ultimate edgelord, putting blood in her booze ~just like a real vampire~. Put down Lost Souls for a minute and have a proper look at yourself, Dorian. This is terribly embarrassing.
The person who took in Thanatos is a friend of Matthias, so I guess he can keep an eye on him. I’m sure he has his reasons for not being able to take the cat himself.
I wonder what she did with the birds and the other cat.
She mentioned in a comment that she is planning to take her with her.
Didn't see anything about the birds.
I can't watch any of these OooOOoo Vampire! I drink blood! clips without feeling deeply, deeply embarrassed for the people in them. The more pretentious the person, the harder the cringe.
Here's another Jen having a goffik moment.
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This is one of Jake's And TT fan .
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Jake and band with toxic for there show tonight .look big head fat head .what is she like .
She looks like the same person as >>802951
just in a wig kek
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What toxic bitch is trying to say don't forget to bring the money as we so poor I don't ever go out .
Of course herbs likes PZB. Both of their writing itself isn't bad but they really overuse the ~gay vampire sex!~ thing to the point where its like a crutch.
Also, for a while PZB called herself a trans guy while also not wanting to operate at all. Coincidence?
not a fan of them having a picnic in the graveyard but the farm footage was actually nice, minus the obligatory ~spooky~ attire. not having jake being an annoying cunt was also nice.>>803822
how did you get that from this post? she's just promoting his band's gig which charges a cover for everyone. some weird nitpicking and reaching going on here lately.
I see nothing wrong with this post.
Not everything is worth posting here. >>803776
This is useless as well. This is just some random girl.
I find it hilarious in earlier threads people were saying Dorian isn't a cow, she has no cowlike qualities, and she should stop being mentioned here. Now look at this shit. I'm wondering if she was posting in the earlier threads. Oh yeah, she only mentioned Skullgirdle when anon posted her video here. Dorian definitely lurks. >>803903
It's one anon who's screenshot happy posting random useless things. You can tell by the typing style. >>803836
Definitely not a coincidence. That's Herb's idol. Dorian's writing isn't even bad until you get to her edgy gay vampire blog. Sad. >>803813
Same, the only illness I've come across is usually depression, but the few with it had it pre-goth so the subculture had nothing to do with it. Also they seem happier as goffs, probably something to do with finding where you fit in.
True we do have Angela who kinda breaks the monotonous haul crap and is an actual Goth and even when she does do the occasional haul, she usually shares a little back story.
However there is another Goth YouTuber who actually talks about Goth music and that is Cadaver Kelly. So she's another one who actually talks about what Goth truly is about and knows her stuff (from what she shared, she studied music in college and applies that to dissecting Goth music). And like Angela, she also has a profession (she's an accountant) so that's even more incentive why she doesn't need to be another boring haul channel since she doesn't rely on Youtube for money.>>803369
That's…. Very odd and I can't imagine it would be good for you.>>803813
Same. While I don't really see many actual Goths in my area (though lots of metalheads who think they're Goth because they like dark makeup and black), the few I've met have been pretty chill. One did suffer from depression but depression is a normal thing that can happen to anyone so I don't count that as being "fucked up".>>803950
The thing with Dorian is that she used to be fairly fine to those who didn't follow her on social media. I rememner discovering her in 2012 or 2013 with her Goth tag video and she seemed fairly fine but then I looked more into her about the gender queer nonsense and her "Transness" yet looking like a conventional alternative woman (pretty much the first Sebastian Columbine of the alt scene). It really wasn't till about 2016 when she started becoming a lot more cowish.>>804263
I'm sure the cat will be just fine as the owner will actually make she he gets the attention he needs and won't be treated like some prop.
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Aaaand she’s here!
Wonder how long till she adopts new cats and leaves them behind. Oh and finds someone else she’s soooo in love with and needs to marry because “it feels right” and it’s totally not for the visa
she won't be welcome except by her ass kissing fans>>804538
maybe they don't want to be recorded by the gofffick shebeast with her selfie stick everywhere
Freya used to work for a ghost tour company when she last lived in Edinburgh. >her name is not popular
Are you an ex-co worker, or do you know any that have talked about her?
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I'm lost for words .
Are they for fucking real?!
Money to fly to Birmingham for the night though of course
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All the effort he goes in to with make up for vlogs and when he has an actual gig we get…this
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Kaya didn't look much better.
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I give up with there fans look at this . these people need wise up .
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Look at this all clothing she gets for free like she never put any effort in .these are there fans .
Honestly idk what to say either. Imagine being that miserable, begging for food AND drinks online!! He should've just opened his emptied guitar case and played a (whack) tune, to get some money thrown at. I guess that's too much effort. >>804827
She looks miserable af here. I legit think she's on the verge of tears.
I can't believe how people can't have any dignity. Asking people to pay for your food when you can afford a flight to fucking Birmingham.
And actually finding ppl who're dumb enough to pay for your meals.
Life must be good, being able to fly across the globe, quite literally, while boldly claiming you're by no means well off.
Ofc now she'll be again too busy to upload anything, she'll probably drop another haul, as always. Or some boring ass shit.
I don't like to discuss people's fashion sense or anything, but just look at these people.
Alt people nowadays all wear the same junk, I see 3 of them Kaya included, wearing demonias & the ginger girl some killstar top (i'm. Pretty sure it is from killstar)
And you have the Manson shirt. Very goff indeed.
And these ''influencers'' dare saying ''we're not forcing you to buy anything, you can just thrift or make your own clothes ''
That's not the case for most people. And the scene is mostly just about the fucking hauls now. >>804269
I watched many of Cadaver Kelly's
Vids and l really liked her content.
I work for a ghost tour company. The turnover of employees isn’t as high as you’d think as people tend to stick around because it’s such a good deal, though occasionally will work for more than one tour at a time as self employed contractors. And yeah, those who weren’t well liked are still spoken about for that reason.
And yeah, I meant now we’d need to deal with the tantrum if she shows up and realises we can’t be bothered…
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I'm suddenly reminded exactly why they're both major cows, I don't even know what to focus on first.
Any one of Jake's Marilyn Manson knockoff looks could have sufficed??
That is NOT the face of someone happy to be meeting their fans??
I can't even find any words for the "send some drinks our way too" post??? Too bad e-begging can't buy you some dignity and gratefulness too, Jake, fucking pissbaby
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She post this IG few hours ago but I don't understand why they go to Dublin airport .as I'm sure belfast has two airport .they are just low life no class .to say fuck my life when she hand freebies hole time .
She always looks like she's about to cry. Jake doesn't even like her, he's too busy beating his meat to ReeRee and Kelly Eden and perfecting his bootleg Manson makeup instead of spending time with Kaya. >>804824
I cannot believe this. Jake has reach a new low. Copying Beavis & Butthead? Sad!
I did a quick search on lastminute.com and flights from Dublin are double the cost, so I think I found your answer lol
That aside, I am actually astounded at the free food bullshit, I didn't think these 2 could sink any lower
Ffs, always smth to complain about, end/fuck my life, what a joke.
Didn't their fans ''brighten up their misery''? They should e-beg for a flight in a private jet next time.
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Thank you, my blind fans who pay for my food through my successful e-begging.
What was so stressful, the delay? As if they were the only ones involved. So dramatic damn.
It was so expensive = y'all get ready to give us some more money.
this is some shit tier begging. flights get delayed, it's not the end of the world. treat yourself if you want to be cheered up.>>804824
he wore more makeup on their trip to barcelona but couldn't even paint his neck black for a gig, lel.>>804983
no one forced him to go on this trip, bands put out plenty to tour and have merch, that's what comes with the territory. omf is he insufferable.
He lived in a bubble for too long and just expect blinded fans to pay for all of his expenses, be it basic ones such as food, or his music projects.
The sad reality is that there are people actually doing it. >>804824
Yeah, can't even put on the makeup he's so proud of lately, with the tacky blue mustache stains.
I bet the show was whack in terms of efforts as well. We all know how they both love the easy way out.
>>804983>>804841>here's our sob story now buy us food>thanks but you forgot the drinks>i was so stressed over this small thing but your hard earned cash made me happy for a few mins
Lol people buy this shit? Also the very specific way he asked them to pay, like he was planning this from the start.>>805079
I think cos of the ~stressful~ delay they didn't find much time, but weird they didn't do something, they care alot about their appearance (and not the inside kek)
She must have worked there years ago, so I guess whatever she did was bad enough that people are still talking about it.
Do keep us in the loop if you come across IBF.
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Well, that was quick.
OMFG… And they still asked for more? These people are ridiculous but their fans are even worse for enabling this behavior. So there you have it folks, this is why these two will never wise up until shit really hits the fan. It's called getting a job or at least a regular side gig, FFS.>>804913> And the scene is mostly just about the fucking hauls now
Correction, the poser scene is about that stuff. The actual Goth scene is still thriving (in some places more than others), it's just that the big GOFF youtubers don't showcase it. They don't showcase the actual Goth bands touring and meeting and interacting with the fans going to them, even at a Goth Rock night.
And the Toxic
Twosome's fans look exactly how I pictured them in my head. We already saw a peak into them when they did that meet up awhile back and were acting like obnoxious high schoolers and looked like MallGOFF Hot Topic kids, this is just a further look into it lol.
And no problem, I really enjoy Cadaver Kelly as well, it's so nice to come across another educated person who knows the scene and shows that in her videos.>>804967> I didn't think these 2 could sink any lower
Oh don't worry, they will lol. Many of us were saying that when that one fan donated $1,000 to them in a live stream (which they obviously blew through since they have no concept of SAVING money).>>804983> y'all get ready to give us some more money.
LOL just had to laugh when I got to that part of the comment because it's so true. The point is since these MFs don't work, they shouldn't be traveling through expensive means.>>805045> The sad reality is that there are people actually doing it.
And the sad thing is that it seems this will continue being that way because their fans are so blinded by how toxic
these two are. It's true that it's not our money and fans should spend it on whatever they want but it's just a shame that they give it to two ungrateful cows who are too lazy to put in the work themselves.>>805147
I think his music is ass but I agree, there are certain steps bands/musicians need to take if they want to be successful and THEY HAVE TO PUT THE WORK INTO IT. You get what you put out.>>805235
Oh my god… LOL
Now all we need is the announcement for it and that she needs some "HELP" to get the festivities started.. .Just a "small" generous donation will suffice…
Point taken. I was just pissed when l saw some goff fans of theirs, posing happily next to their idolized beggars.
I stopped following 99% of the alt people who do nothing but promote shitty fake goff fashion. I'm better off following genuine people,or hard working artists.>>805286
She probably wants to do that grandiose über grufti weedings of her dreams, with skulls, pipe organs and whatnot.
Financed by her dear blinded followers, ofc. Let's not forget she's too broke to pay it herself.
They wanna live their fantasies with others' hard earned money, without even doing the bare minimum to be worthy of it (i.e, upload actual good content.)
Feels probably great, to be able to afford trips and making 'music'' through people's donations for the ''content'' you create online.
And the e-begging, you see other people doing it, so you give it a go as well, because you think ''you deserve it'' after all the effort you put in creating an unboxing video. Hollywood is quaking.
At first, it may be awkward, but you get used to it, & just interpret it as ''my fans giving back some love to me'' instead of thinking ''this is actually wrong, l shouldn't ask people to pay for my food, when l can fly to another country, and give a small gig ''
Just my interpretation. I'm tired of all the begging online, from Amazon wishlists to gofundme links.
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Begging for soap now.
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Can she not do anything for herself.like go to Dr and aske like any grown woman would do .
Sage if you don't have milk/images>>805235
I don't know why but I'm gonna be real frustrated/mad if she marries Mr Owl in Edinburgh…I don't want my dream wedding locale/setting to be tainted by that.
Where are they going to live anyway? NZ? Is he going to move to the UK? How would they get permanent residence there?
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Because of Ruadhan, IBF's channel has become stagnant. When she uploaded her DNA test video, she lost subs (which never happened before Ruadhan called out the BS). It also doesn't help that she goes weeks without uploading
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Julia hasn't been mentioned here for awhile, but I just saw this and…she agreed to be in a video on online freakshow channel, barcroftmedia which I'm sure we're all familar with.
>Point and gasp at the woman dating her granny!!
Like…why would you agree to this?
Because there whole relationship is a scream for attention. Maybe Maria, her ex, broke up because she didnt wanna be in front of the camera as much as Eileen.
The thing that bothers me the most is how she always puts "Lesbiange age gap couple" in the title of her videos, as if that is an important fact. Like "Getting matching tattoos with my fiancee" would have been enough but sure not enough to talk about without saying they are a lesbian age gap couple
Oh wow, I had no idea she lost more than 50 subs. And if she even tries to scam people again with the wedding (or starts traveling again to all sorts of different places), she'll most likely lose even more. >>805694
This theory seems plausible as well as maybe they are going for school as a way to get their foot in but yeah we will definitely see an influx of her boring Killstar Haul videos and lowkey e-begs that may be on the line similar to the toxic
Mu thing is do you think her fans will get tired of the same crappy content which will probably cause her get a dip in her subscriber base? I just fail to see repetitive haul content surviving but then again, that's just me and everyone is different in their choice of entertainment even if I do think her fans are getting ripped off.
And oh you know Ruadhan will be on her like white on rice. He'll most likely get a little blow back from her fangirls/fanboys but a good portion will get the picture of just why she's terrible.
Speaking of which I have to ask. Who do you guys think is worse? Toxic
Twosome or IBF? Both are bad in their own ways though currently, I think the toxic
twosome are horrid after the latest e-begging extravaganda though if IBF does do the e-beg wedding… lol
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Jake your show was Thursday and you were to lazy to put makeup on.but for twitch your got your face on .it shows how lazy you are also he looking for his fans to give him 500 dollars as it was his birthday .I wish he just fuck off.
Nta but psychara and mai have been my faves, so i want to know if there's something wrong with them. I don't really care about interpersonal drama, but i'd like to know if they like, steal art, scam people or if there's anything super problematic
about them. Psychara seems more consumerist than mai, who is huge into sustainability, so i can imagine them disagreeing on that.
Couldn't care less about manic moth tho
Twosome, easily. IBF isn't much better, though. I'm sure she's saving up the monthly $1200 from patreon for an OTT wedding. Didn't she charge people for tickets to see the livestream of the wedding that never happened?>>805770
When will people realize that moving to another country isn't going to solve all your problems? I'm only 20 and I've seen it time and time again, people trying to move to the UK, Canada, or Japan thinking that it's the solution to their unhappiness
I'm starting to wonder if the reason he didn't wear the makeup at his gig was less to do with laziness and more to do with not wanting to put off potential new fans? Perhaps he thought the people in attendance wouldn't be keen on his look so toned it down. just a thought>>806132
This. I can't even imagine posting publicly about something so personal like contraception. She's just screaming for attention>>806144
Even their exercise is lazy, how about learning to ride an actual skateboard that doesn't do the work for you? lazy cunts
Imagine eating all kinds of junk food in the middle of the night, not doing the bare minimum of physical exercise, and then being audacious enough to complain about your weight!
What do you expect, maybe your dear fans paying for some training gear? It will end up covered in dust anyway.
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Just seen toxic bitch is trying to sell this dress
>>805484>acne and weight
implying that it's not her fault that she stuffs her face with shit food and then doesn't wash said face, it's the ~hormones~. Okay, Kaya.
in other news, Jake's 'WHY DO I DRESS LIKE THIS? AM I GOTH?' video is apparently on my recommended list on Youtube and the comments there are truly sickening.
Some highlights:>You look so awesome!!! Your voice and hand movements give me Johnny Depp vibes. You’re so well spoken and inspiring. Keep it up!!
>your voice in connection with the way you look >excuse me while I faint >this is hot af >edit: after watching half of the video I'm glad your personality is just as awesome
>Goth ? Noo you are a supervillain !! I love it I have never seen someone with such a brilliant personality , been bullied for being different too but they can't understand it's just who I am , I'm Kay the goddess that's my thing that's who I am so it's refreshing to see someone like you to be so open and awesome (and handsome lol) anyway this goddess has just subscribed 😉 xx
>No, you’re a GOD. YOU AND KAYA ARE THE GOD AND GODDESS I ADORE.
christ the youtube fanbase has low standards
It was in my recommended too, clicked out pretty quickly because he kept talking about patreon.
And yeah, they idolized him quite a lot in the comments. Saying he should do some story telling or whatever. His voice is nothing extraordinary tbh.
>> but usually
You sound like a scrote with that bullshit. Just because Kaya eats badly doesn't mean that weight gain and acne aren't known side effects of hormonal contraception that can affect anyone. Especially if you're on progestogen only or the implant.
Sage for medfag derailing.
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Jake said he is more sexually attracted to men and was looking to explore that more before he met Kaya. I wonder if that's why it seems like their sex life is dead.
He's making a video explaining why he talks with an american accent so I guess it is fake like we all thought
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Looks like Casey Strange ("Rozz Williams Scholars Society") is back at it.
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>>805929>steal art>scam people>super problematic
Lol that's psychara. They all sell overpriced crap but she is like the worst of them. Her stuff is poorly made and people have been complaining about missing deliveries. One of her tattoos is copied from Alex Tabuns which she never acknowledged. I love Psychara's aesthetics but she is a pos.
>mai who is huge into sustainability
Did she ever deliver recipes for her allegedly sustainable collection? If braiding random fabric scraps is sustainable then the bums downtown would be green champions for eating leftovers. Imagine having a fashion degree like mai, you would be embarrassed to publish shit like this and even demanding money for it.
>couldn't care less about manic moth tho
Yeah literally no one gives a fuck about her, but she acts like she is going to be IBF No2. Apparently she even went off sperging about how nobody wants to see fatties and they don't fit into her stuff anyway and shit. The two-faced twat needs shut up and wash her hair.
Fuck man l really thought it's her!!! And she keeps warning ppl on her page, to not steal her art!
& how no one is allowed to have any of her drawings tattoed unless she's the one doing them!
And the recent story abt her, getting mad over people copying her slogan ''witches supporting other bitches'' when she's an art thief herself. Fuck man that some audacity.
He's a blast from the past, but most noteworthy:
* he's hardcore obsessed with his ex, like YEARS after the breakup still stalks her Tumblr, RBing her posts with super unhinged commentary
* literally lives in his parents unfinished basement at the age of 30 something, and not for the usual milenneal reasons, but because he be cray to the zee
* racist, sexist, homophobic. Also likes to throw "autist" and "asspie" around as insults, in spite of his own self-unaware display of too many ASD traits (including a failure to detect sarcasm and literally one facial expression)
* in spite of blatant homophobia, fancies himself the only One True Rozz Williams Fanboy. Guess he missed that memo about Rozz being gay.
* after spending his disability checks on rare Rozz Williams collectables, finds ways to scam Rozz memorabilia and rare merch out of others.
* speaking of rare merch, he loves to file bogus copyright claims on photos he owns a copy of, because nobody told him that's not how copyright works
* After a number of antics proving his dubious relationship to with reality, including too many violent outbursts to count, no one who actually knew Rozz wants anything to do with Casey, anymore (but most of that circle just really felt sorry for him, anyway, so it's no loss)
* has several restraining orders against him, from all over the US, probably outside it too
* Reeree Phillips allegedly cancelled her trip to the US after he threatened her with rape — or so goes the word on the street
* shouldnt even be online as it is a violation of his parole, but oh well, guess he sensed that other people are fans of Rozz Williams, and that can't be allowed!
* around here, though, he infamously impersonated a "friend" who came in to defend him, and couldn't have been more obvious about it:>>>/snow/36266
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This is guy who's in gym everyday look fat head this is guy who done photos of him last week and done all videos .
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How lazy can she be why put this up looking for freebies from her fans .she also going on diet again how many diets has she been on .
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Never 4get this clueless cow
Yeah I'm seeing it pop on my feed as well. Not gonna watch but I'm seriously bewildered he has a idolizing fanbase. Must be just teen "GOFF" Edgelord girls lol.
And Johnny Depp? Exaggerating aren't we? Johnny is talented, Jake is…. Basic.>>806739
That may be true but bad skincare and consistently eating unhealthily constantly and consistently without some form of routine exercising doesn't help and we've gotten glimpses of Kaya's day life so uh… Yeah.>>806789
Why do I feel like he's only saying that because he wants more attention?>>807063
She's been on a couple but seriously this chick needs to stop with the Diets. She needs to actually start eating a little better and workout a bit. Doing these things will just be better in the long run because diets aren't a guarantee and once you go off them, you gain the weight back and more if you don't seriously tweak your ordinary eating/exercise.
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Julia definitely has a fetish with the old lesbian, huge age gap thing. It's not even a preference, from the way she treats her relationships it is absolutely clear she gets off on the whole thing, and exposing it is a huge part of it. She also really enjoys introducing her mom to her girlfriends that are older than she(mom) is. I can understand why Julia gets into these relationships: it's her fetish, but what about Eileen? She's a 61 year old.politocal correspondent, for fucks sake! It's kinda common to see older people dating young pretty things but the way Julia exposes their relationship online sexualizes and objectfies Eileen so much! Look at these fucking "mukbangs" thumbnails, they are literally posing as if it was porn. On top of being part of her fetish, exposing it this way makes Julia feel modern, edgy, free, open minded, etc. Bit what does Eileen has to gain from this? What is this woman thinking? Yeah, date, marry a young kooky girl, who cares? But do not expose yourself his way…>>805669
I think that's the same reason why she does it: so the title attracts horny men who are into this kind of porn, even the thumbnails alude to sex
NTA but I suspect Kaya was gaining weight and having skin problems even before she went on BC, but is now trying to blame it on the 'hormones'.
source: i've been watching her spiral downwards since about 2014
But we don't know for how long she's on birth control. Why is it so hard to believe that she is experiencing a very common side effect of these meds? Yeah, she's lazy, probably because she's depressed as fuck, and that's what is preventing her from losing weight and treating her acne. It doesn't exclude that these issues can be, at least partly, caused by the meds. A lot of women deal with those side effects, being it exercising, treating the skin with doctors, and specially changing meds. And to be honest, I don't see anything wrong with asking about other women's experiences with different birth control methods etc
Most doctors just push birth control, of course you want to hear from people who take the meds. Blogpost but: these days a doctor gave me 2 boxes of birth control pills even when I told her I was fine having me period and that I'm not having sex at the moment. I said I didn't want to take them, don't see any reason to but she insisted I should, so yeah, they are pushy as fuck
I feel bad for her mom. You are right, it's a fetish for Julia and all those titles and thumbnails are very intentional.
What a mess.
I don't know what's funnier, that the only thing that incoherent ramble essentially says is "I'm clueless", or that she mentions Slipknot as a goth band KEEEEEK>>807107
Who even uses Johnny Depp as a compliment in the year 2k19… he used to be incredibly charismatic, but he's laughingstock nowadays
oh wow, i'm really disappointed in psychara stealing her tattoo and shit, especially since she's so strict about her own art. i also don't know why on earth someone would buy a psypuff but not delivering is a shit move.
i honestly don't see anything wrong with mai's collection except being overpriced AF, reusing fabric is definitely more sustainable than printing new shirts for example. i don't plan on ever buying anything from her but i don't think there's anything embarassing about it.>>807197> l was uneducated back then, l was young and now l have changed
i also don't really see anything wrong with this response. do you still agree with everything you said 5 years ago on the internet? i probably would've posted something similar about wearing dreads in 2013. (except the slipknot thing, that's hilarious)
i'm always up for more milk from them and i'd love to see receipts of drama between them since they act all high and mighty, but IBF and TT are waaaaay milkier… their laziness, entitlement and e-begging is hilarious.
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We back on diet good old toxic tears post this .wonder how long this going last
No, the sentence itself is good, but you need to show that you truly changed. Saying beautiful things without action to back it up doesn't mean shit.
Now she's more into art theft, maybe y'all missed her ig story tantrum, getting mad at ariana grande for reposting her pic on her story, the one where she was holding a sign with her ''own slogan'', bitches supporting other witches '' and asking for credit and tagging. (This happened not too long ago).
She also was hella mad about some online shop copying the whole sign and making profit off of it.
Not to forget all her captions, ''don't steal my art or l'll kill you''.
But it's all cool to steal a whole ass tat. Go off, l guess.
So yeah, you know that dreads aren't the only thing she appropriated, & if she gives a typical online personality, it wouldn't mean shit.
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psychara's old tumblr is a milk goldmine. Nazi and NSFW gore gifs, casual racism aka "but I have black friends", "I'd date other races but only with blue eyes", "dumb asians can't read english hurrdurr". Geez. What did I just read.>>807262
Except she didn't change and most people including you would never post nazi gifs for edgelord points, not now nor 5 years ago. You sound like a nice person but you need to realize that there's no point in sympathizing with cows. They wouldn't be cows if they had an ounce of self-awareness in first place.
Nah, judging from your choices of words, you wouldn't try sounding edgy and totally disregard racism/cultural appropriation matters, saying that there are other problems that are far more important.
The reply was posted around NYE 2014 and it's by no means some ancient times.
But as you said, nothing beats TT/IBF 's milk lol
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because calling their staff dumbasses will solve your problem with this vendor. Smart.
Ofc, when people don't speak English, they're immediately seen as inferior. Same about not having blue eyes, in her books.
That's what happens when you're too obsessed with just your appearance, you'll end up forgetting abt fixing your shit behavior and nasty attitude.
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obligatory I'm not a racist cuz I have black friends excuse.
Speak their minds:calling Chinese people dumbasses cuz they may not be able to understand english.
Saying ignorant shit, like ppl from all ethnicities gotta have blue eyes otherwise she'll pass.
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I'm trying to find the "tentacle hair" debacle (she does use that tag but I specifically remember some tantrum posts), found this instead
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She's even interacted with everyone's favourite Irish goff youtuber!
While technically true, changes in hormones (such as birth control) can make it more difficult to burn calories. In non-trans women, hormonal changes like during pregnancy (including birth control that mimics pregnancy hormones) contribute to that cos it turns out that a fetus needs calories to grow, so it can take something like twice the effort for some women to manage their weight on birth control.
She's still put on a lot of weight, over only the last few years, and she gets really eager to blame it on all kinds of meds, so you're not 100% wrong, and no one really thinks that you are. It's still more complex than just "calories in, calories out". Birth control complicates the situation for most people on it. >>807329
If she thinks that Chinese shop staff are dumbasses for poor English, then what's her opinion on the fact that IBF lived in Germany for a couple of years and still needs a translator for "nein!"?
I guess different rules must apply to other spoiled white girls…
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Because boy be cray!
Holy shit, I had no idea that was Casey! I remember him from the VF days. I feel sort of conflicted about his initial callout video now. Back in the day, having Casey file copyright claims against you was like an initiation into being a Christian Death fan.
He's threatened some friends over the years and I distinctly remember him mocking suicides in the scene and targeting close friends and loved ones of the deceased. He also loathes heroin users despite all of his favourite musicians being junkies at some point.
It's obvious that he's struggling with mental illness and I've know quite a few people over the years have tried to look out for him but they all end up burnt out and hurt. Ultimately, I hope he can find the help he clearly needs.
Thanks for all the info anon. Do you know if he's still active on Tumblr?
I don't think this is actually her fetish. Wasn't she on the pastel goth trend for a bit, then that died, now suddenly WOW MUH CREEPY GAP RELATIONSHIP! This old woman gets her views, and doesn't seem to mind it. Also hate Barcroft, why do they keep giving poseurs a platform, ugh. >>807323
I'm sure she's still racist, too. Fine, go be racist. Just own it so people can avoid you. I never understood people who denied they were, surely their friend group knows and accepts it as they're usually racist too.
>>807149> Who even uses Johnny Depp as a compliment in the year 2k19… he used to be incredibly charismatic, but he's laughingstock nowadays
Yeah he's a joke now but he used to be good and it's silly that people would think these two are the same unless they're talking about Johnny Depp now lol>>807249
LMAO. The plot thickens. So was he gay all along and was using Kaya as a "beard" or is this just a pathetic cry to try to break away from Kaya and get that skinny Goff chick that he subtly pines for?>>807262> i'm always up for more milk from them and i'd love to see receipts of drama between them since they act all high and mighty, but IBF and TT are waaaaay milkier… their laziness, entitlement and e-begging is hilarious.
It's hilarious now but shit is gonna get real for them when the e-begging stops working… lol>>807384
Her weight gain wouldn't be a big deal (aside from health problems but those are her own problems) if she actually was honest about it.
We're not saying that medication doesn't affect the body with weight gain but there are ways to help control it a bit through proper nutrition and exercise, which Kaya has shown time and again that she can't stick with it. She's a lazy glutton and that only enhances the weight she's already gaining from the medication.
She has so much free time to be a bit active. She doesn't work a job, she doesn't go to school, she doesn't have an active hobby, she has no side hustle… Her crappy unboxing videos don't take that long to make. I mean seriously, she can't spare 20-30 minutes of her day to an exercise activity and balance out her meals? Isn't Jake a supposed fitness expert (Kek)?
Just saying anon, she's not making things any easier for herself. >>807451>PAstel Goth trend
Oh fuck I forgot about that. And these people wondered why actual Goths didn't take them seriously? lol. But yeah clearly she's moved onto the next fad which is dating people significantly older than you. As soon as that trend ends, I won't be surprised if she dumps her as soon as the views start decreasing.
Oh yeah, at some point, it was like you weren't "a real Rozz Williams fan" until Casey somehow lashed out at you.
I haven't been on Tumblr for a couple years, TBH, so off the top of my head, I can't say if he's still active on there or not.
He's had a hate bone for Ruadhan for years (like before R transitioned to Male) because who TF knows. Probably cos he thinks being a fan of anything is like being a Highlander immortal and "There can only be one!!" Maybe it's just cos people can actually stand being around Ruadhan for more than 5minutes before the paranoid ravings and nonstop autistic rocking make everyone in the room uncomfortable.
(sage to be on the safe side — not saying that Ruadhan isn't
weird and he's open about being heavily medicated, but he seems well aware of his issues, so he's not much if you're looking for a trainwreck. Maybe once in his life, but it looks like he's actually grown up?)
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Looks like it took him a grand total of sixty seconds, complete with a.. Chest butt hole? What even is that meant to be?
Yeah they got together as teens, and it's been 8(?) years. At least go have some fun before settling, no wonder he keeps thirsting after others.
But Jake settled with kaya so he could move to Ireland away from his family, and then cos of her YT cash. And now maybe he feels pressured to stay from fans who only know him because of kaya? Either way its not a love relationship, and not really healthy.
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Looks like it's supposed to be this Kyo/Dir en grey look
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>>807479>we dutch are just speaking our minds easily no hate bro>zwarte piet blackface everywhere for Sinterklaas>but muh tradition is not racism>anti zwarte piet protests attacked by rightwing mobs >throwing bananas and doing hitler salutes>totally not racist kekeke
fun fact: the dutch were one of the last countries to abolish slavery in europe.
Ngl, if it wasn't for the weird thing he drew on his chest, this came pretty good l think.
I read in the comments regarding his ''am l goth'' vid that l didn't bother to watch, he apparently likes Kyo from Dir En Grey. >>807577
It would be nice if he did smth original and not copy others, indeed. But this kind of people lack creativity and a sense of individuality. He just wanna look cool and appeal to his fans with OTT makeup.
I don't get the whole "stolen way of doing your hair" dispute. Both brided and locked with teasing grease/wax styles were also known in Europe oth very damn ancient (figurines from stone age) and quiet recent times. Rastafari very likely adopted dreadlocks from group of Hindu hermits that came to Jamaica during British trade times anyway.
Also shaving sides (various "mohawks") is known all around the globe.>>807323
Yea, like being interested in gore or Rob Zombie movies is rarity among "dharkh"alt people… seriously?>>807326
Are you attracted to every possible physical traits yourself? I seriously doubt.>>807359
Here she's damn right.>>807375
and the point being?
seriously got the impression that some ppl here know the cows since they go out of their way for bullshit defense.
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WTF Is he trying for last week he did a show put no work into it .they both on twitch he like this .this is grown man acting out .
Remember that one time The Gothic Alice was talked about for one hot second, someone went and told her immediately
, and then either a fan or she came and told us that "we're all jealous of her because she's overcome her introverted psyche" Good times, I'm still not over that
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I was looking for some kind of review/feedback from someone not a "fan" but haven't found any.
This old one makes me smile smugly.>The problem is Munro himself…
this is so harsh haha!!
Munro are nobodies so a review of them in the first place is weird.
it seems like the writer hates Jake too, which is understandable but I'm pretty sure these people aren't meant to let what they feel personally effect their writing.
all in all 10/10 review lmao
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unmistakable attribute of a cow: Anyone not sucking their ass is a jealous hater. Cue eye roll. Gothic Alice is aging badly, she looks like tranny these days. >>803323
it's ded. Sucks to be manic moth right now.
I doubt psychara is some kind of anthropology wiz like you implied. She doesn't know where she's stealing from and she doesn't care, that's the hallmark of cultural appropriation.
You can like Rob Zombie movies but posting them with your actual face next to it makes you unemployable. Unless you are some spoiled rich kid who never plans to have any career like Mara, it's a dumb move. Same applies to her bitchy and ignorant racist ramblings.>>807656
I'd pay to see psychara in blackface lmao. That would be actual milk.
At least she is very creative with her looks, supports a shit ton of independent artists instead of buying constantly from shit, fake goff fashion. Not to mention that her channel has lots of various content, not some stupid unboxings and ebegging bs.
Abt her tattoos, they may not be the best, l just hope she doesn't charge too much.
So yeah, her place is definitely not in this farm.
Don't get your panties in a twist, WK green newfag, Alex is still a valid
goff but nobody is or should be immune to being mentioned here (also remember that she doesn't really do videos anymore because she couldn't handle any comments that didn't agree with her)
I s2fg whenever Alex gets mentioned, at least one WK crawls out of the woodwork to say WELL AT LEAST SHE'S NOT DOING [x thing that Kaya and IBF do] Yeah, we all know that, hence why she's never talked about here?
She did post two weeks ago tho. When there's smth milk worthy, then post it. Useless nitpicking isn't interesting.
I have been following her for quite some time, so be sure I ain't no devil's advocate of hers, nor a ''green newfag''.
I don't remember seeing any cow behavior from her during all the time l have been following her & if you did see smth, just share it.
That's what I meant.
If there's nothing worth sharing better shut the f up instead of useless bickering.
Do you realize…. that the first comment you replied to…. was saying "TGA is this and that, but she's not a cow
"…… You've been prolonging an argument about literally nothing because Alex…. is not….. a cow… and nobody is arguing that she is? What are you defending her from? Get some reading comprehension and for fuck's sake, learn to sage and learn to pick your battles instead of trying to get the last word in
Oh man, I was wondering this too. His Facebook says he's single and most mentions of her have been taken off. She still has a pic of them together on her page all hugged up together. Maybe he lurks and doesn't want us to bother her? But no one in these threads has ever cowtipped so… I don't know. Who knows, maybe he really is a serial cheater. >>808461
There is an anon who refuses to sage, there is a post a little bit upwards too of I believe said anon (>>807422) not sageing yet again, if you look at the Facebook page where they were reacting to comments, it's Ruadhan. You can tell it's him because he types how he speaks.
>Who knows, maybe he really is a serial cheater.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. It may be true that IBF is "asexual"(I think it was just at that time in her life though to be honest) - but Matthias did strike me as a wandering eye kind of guy.
No actual milk, kinda wish some friends would chime in and spill some
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Sage for no milk but im a friend of IBF, she hasn’t said shit about Mathias. Screenshot of her last post on Facebook.
Ruadhan stop if it's you. I like watching your yt, honestly don't embarrass yourself here pls.>>808853>>808860
Why do both IBF and psychara claim to be asexual? Is it supposed to be their special snowflake trait?
It's like them saying "nobody wants me cuz I'm fucked up but I don't want anyone to know it, I'll claim I don't want them instead I'm SO smart".
I wished people would go to a good doctor with their health issues rather than milking it for attention and pity-laced e-begging. Maimagi used to do it with her fibro, it was annoying as fuck.
Call the ambulance if it's life threatening and don't overshare online.
>>808881>Why do both IBF and psychara claim to be asexual? Is it supposed to be their special snowflake trait?
This is the blog that's often used as sauce on this specific thing for IBF.http://bloodandtwosugars.blogspot.com/
Though like I said, I think it might have been for that moment in her life. She was in a bad/not great relationship with some guy in Edinburgh while she lived/worked there. I think depression, working, him not being a great partner, etc were all factors in the "I don't have sex right now" thing.
you know, lack of stability. which she's still putting herself through. I guess paired with endometriosis maybe she still doesn't do sex much.
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Follow up to the Manic moth issue with her store
Were the clothes she was selling actually good? Because I'm assuming they were just merch for her fans, meaning a black/green t-shirt with her logo and name she goes by. Which sounds pretty boring imo, she's better off selling the loads of jewelry she has on Etsy. Seems like it sells pretty good as 1,600+ people have bought it. >>808858
Yes! And then when both of them were surprised they weren't let into the bone church, neither of them thought "hmm, perhaps we shouldn't wear satanic symbols and bones in a church where peoples ancestors are laid to rest" instead it was full on "oh em gee! Discrimination bc we're goff!"
>>809674>used to have a British accent>i consumed mostly US media>moved to Ireland at 18, nobody had my accent, i also kept watching American stuff>started using American words for YT so they can understand me>P.S. trying to make an upload schedule for once, it's sooo stressful
Ok but how can you get the accent just from watching TV? Unless you watch it obsessively and never talk to anybody. You know what, I can see Jake doing that actually. He also talked like 99% of the media is American so.
And good luck with the schedule kek.
as an Irish person he's full of shit.
yes we have a lot of american programs but we have a lot more British programs. We have even more Australian programs on our television
that doesn't change your accent unless he was a complete and utter shut in 24/7 watching friends on repeat.
stupid video and he's boring makeup is really starting to annoy me now. can he not come up with ANYTHING else??
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I get the feeling that she wants to open a shop. Does she not realise how fucking expensive Edinburgh is to live, nevermind have a business? Jfc.
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"send me gold jewellery"
Her patreon+youtube income will help her.
Idk who's worse, ebeggers or the idiots who give to ebeggers
Didn't she say, ages ago, that she'll make cool stuff for her online shop on storenvy? Just checked and it's full of stupid shirts. (Lol throwback to her saying she also make nice pins and all she did was slamming her logo on some.)
Too lazy to even manage an online shop, but wanting to open a real one? Ok.
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You guessed it right, she even posted about it on her ig story as well as a regular post.
Forever an ebegger + hoarder.
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She never stops .
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This has been added to her wishlist as it's going be her birthday so she hoping some of her fans will buy it for .as she has to have it .
If she does open one, i doubt it'll be successful. She hasn't shown to be very art-y, and her shirts online are just merch. Nothing wrong with merch but doesn't warrant a physical shop, original designs might.
Unless she leeches from her fans or someone like Avelina, make it a collab, then scam them out of the contract when they're not needed.
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Spot on comments, anons. IBF is gonna fuck up big time since she's clueless. She can't even care for pets, now she wants to run a store?! Someone call the ambulance, this woman is retarded.>>809527
The manic moth lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Her so called label is only held together by spit and tape if a single failing supplier nukes her whole clothing line. She sounds like an incompetent ass who chose to shift blame to them rather than admitting she did run her business poorly.
Pic related. It's the self-congratulatory sperging manic moth posted on her bday. "Proud independent business owners" don't throw rude and unprofessional tantrums in public, they would make it work. What a dimwit.
Typical flake post>I was bullied because I was so speshul so pity me>But now I made it I'm so happy my life is the best now (suck it haterz)
Like we haven't all seen her whiny posts, and seriously, is there a single flake that hasn't claimed they were bullied in the past?
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more flake post: hardcore cringey manic moth biographical fic found on wattpad.
I can't even… this chick is seriously deranged.
Full-blown narcissistic personality disorder on display, nice.
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All you get we have no money please help us now she be on London for this with Jake and the it's there fans be paying for this .
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tl;dr>dweeb irl but imma queen in ma head>bby don't hurt me no more>trve soulmate I can smell u in my dreamz>angsty circle jerk>no relationships were mutual in my life uwu>but I still long for uuuuu>everyone is just a parasite like me
Nah it's just you. It's not mutual if you've got nothing to give. Lights are on but bitch ain't home.
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But she need a roof until begining anything else…….
Or maybe she should have saved her money instead of spending it on plane tickets, and sold some of her clothes, since she has so much shit.
No worries for her, the first time she posted about her being in Edinburgh, someone already offered her a 'room to crash in'.
She can't obviously learn shit since everything is kindly handed to her.
For real but watch, one of her fans is gonna offer her a place and she's gonna learn nothing from this hardship. She's such a terrible planner. She should've saved money ahead of time before she did this or heck, like >>811352
suggested, she should've sold some of her clothe because Lord knows she has a shit ton that only heavy up her luggage and would sell for a reasonable price to help get her by.
But I do agree with the rest of you that her shop is gonna fail so bad because she's already shown she loses motivation quickly, isn't very artistic to warrant worthy merchandise, and lacks poor ethic since she can't take responsibility for when she fucks up. It's just not a good idea for her to do something like this that can put her in a deep hole financially.
She never plans, does everything on impulse then loses motivation and runs away. But she doesn't have to plan. Her fans enable her and give her free shit so she never has to own up to her mistakes. She knows this and uses the shit out of it.
And it means she never grows as a person and keeps pulling the same shit. Surprised her fans can't see a pattern.
This is why they'll never change their ways. Everything the Toxic
Twosome does is validated by their fans and they're then rewarded with shit like this.
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Sage for potentially stale milk, was looking up “Goth Pikes” stuff for a friend to prevent them falling for the scam, found this and IBF’s mum’s comment is…like dude the post was from 2017 (hashed together to make it fit in one image lol)
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Just seen Jake put this up on IG why do people give to this nasty human
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This. I have no clue why anyone would own a dick candle.
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Wtf is wrong with him .he is such a dick head
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He do anything for money people are crazy to pay into this .toxic pair never stop looking for money .
The store looks to be some kinda pagan shop. Psy is probably shoving them up her cooter. I assume the same thing for Jake, probably shoving them up his ass kek>>811573
I don't mind the look, Nadia was a teenager here. IBF's mom is crazy and probably thinks only Freyja can be goth. >>811331>Or longer?
Time for the battle of who's the biggest fan of YouTube's goff kween. People will be begging her to live with them, she won't have to pay any kind of bills, just living in some randoms house and being ~spooky~
can Jake legally make money off reading someone else's book??
and fuck me £10 to get to listen to his incel voice for hours on end? no thanks.
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based on what I've seen about IBF's mom…
The lady is at least 60 and she acts like a deranged teenager who lives vicariously through her equally immature daughter. Apparently IBF's parents divorced when Freya was 1. If I was IBF's dad, I'd _thank god_ I don't have to wake up to this psycho Karen every morning. I remembered this story about Karen allegedly harassing someone on facebook
Wow, karen is fucking crazy. Also where did this come from anon? Got any more milk?>>812093
I'm not even sure if she officially changed it or just changed it on social media. People in previous threads have speculated that it may be so that when people google her they won't find her embarrassing social media past that's under her real name. I think its just so sound more special uwu.
Maybe but he's still a try-hard. As far as I've watched him, he's still posting (almost) nudes on a regular basis though.>>812092
kek, no wonder IBF is so mentally fucked up and hopping countries desperately trying to start a life away from her crazy ass mom
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Facebook fag from a few days ago, I did some stalking into IBF and found some lol worthy shit. The first is this isn’t her first time asking friends to crash on their couches in Edinburgh.
Also I found this gem of a comment on the post where she asked her friends to pledge to her Kickstarter so she could go to Disneyland.
Saged and spoilered cause these are old posts but interesting nonetheless.
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I want to give this commenter a high five.
It's the Gaelic version of her surname
MacLeod actually means "son of Leod"
NicLeóid means "daughter of Leóid" so would be the more traditional way to use the surname
>>812133>Her jobs barely pay her enough
GTFO. She doesn't have a "real" job and she barely takes her "Job" seriously, what is this bitch talking about? Are her fans really that much up her ass that the feces is covering their eyes to what's really going on?
The girl who responded was speaking truth. She can't just save what little money she gets in a rainy day fund? No one forced her to move to another country, let alone an expensive one. She's just a incompetent jackass who acts before she thinks when it comes to life decisions and often chooses wrongly. Give me a break. I'm sympathetic to people who deserve it, life happens to the best of us but it's different when have someone like Freya who can't take responsibility for her piss-poor actions.>>812115> kek, no wonder IBF is so mentally fucked up and hopping countries desperately trying to start a life away from her crazy ass mom
If she wants to get away from her mother than she should do what every normal person does and get a JOB (or at least save money), save up money, and then move away from them. >>811769> Time for the battle of who's the biggest fan of YouTube's goff kween. People will be begging her to live with them, she won't have to pay any kind of bills, just living in some randoms house and being ~spooky~
I'm waiting for that to happen because you know it will lol How much you wanna bet that when Freya becomes more irrelevant, whoever put her up in their home will make a video called "My experience living with ItsBlackFriday and why it was terrible" or something like that? lol. "They say never meet your idols.. I learned the hard way…"
Psychara claims to be asexual but her tumblr has quite some questionable posts kek.>>811890
Wow Karen is a crazy bitch. I don't even like IBF but I don't wish someone like Karen upon anyone. >>812209
sums it up. Adults go to work and don't beg their way through life. Loled at "My experience living with IBF and why it was terrible". I hope someone does exactly this.
That's actually nice wallpaper, shame it's been hung with gaps and covered in what I guess are make-up smears. So many mallgoths put that awful Halloween fabric up in their houses, not surprised Toxic
Tears has it.
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Here, we already have a candidate. Probably a few more reached out in private, because she deleted her most recent post about it. >>812133
I legit lol'ed hard at it, because l thought I was reading the now deleted post.
I don't understand why there's still so many people not seeing right through her bullshit and still enable her heedless behavior.
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She is. I believe this story because she's notorious for fighting people in online comment sections. That was from an old PULL thread, hence why these posts are saged. Here is another comment thread from the "surprising mr. owl" video featuring Karen fighting people. I had to edit in her now deleted comments LOL
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Sweet fuck please just go away Jake I'm sick of joker look .I wonder what Belfast thinks of this .
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Might I add that someone else on that PULL thread suspects that the "shopping with my mom" NZ vlog was posted to improve Karen's image after making an ass out of herself on IBF's social medias.>>812092
Here is the rest of it
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Freyja has always been a member of couchsurfing.com it looks like shes changed her name on her profile and taken off her profile description. She used to have 'to be famous' as a goal… still couch surfing by the looks of it. Get a job luv. Youre not that special.
Can you spill any milk on what went down between Nadia, Mr Owl, and IBF?
Also…wasn't she like 18 when she was with Mr Owl? Who is like…32?
Nta but I've come to the conclusion that basically, Nadia was a rebound. Owl doesn't even like younger girls, he dates grown women around his age. He got with Nadia because Freyja hates her, and Owl was mad Freyja left him for a younger guy. Also for anyone wondering why Freyja hates Nadia, apparently it's because she believes Nadia is stealing her look, which is hilarious. Ones look is from overpriced darque
brands, the other one's look is mostly thrifted or DIYed. Also, according to an anon who knows Nadia, Owl hurt her pretty badly with that. I don't know what he was thinking messing with a 17 year old girl, even if he was just trying to get back at Freyja. >>812209
Her fans are always excusing her, she has an entire Patreon where they give her money probably thinking it goes to her rent and food but instead it's most likely going to clothes and makeup. >>812132
Had to look at this post twice, almost word for word identical to the post where she was begging to live in her fan's homes.
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She's not the only one. Found this on manic moth's travel vlogs. She is evading questions about how to budget your trip, only says she stayed with "friends". Freeloading her way to Japan would be more fitting.>>812568
Horrified that a grown adult would prey on a 17 year old to get back at his ex girlfriend. It's childish crap that was bound to hurt people involved. Freyja's attitude towards Nadia is also all kinds of wrong. Toxic
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Didn't post right this is what toxic bitch wonts
I almost want to be fair because some people just pick up accents, especially if they were raised in a large city with a big immigrant population. I had a roommate who's boss was South African, and the ex would have a slight accent if they called me from work. The ex would lose the accent after abt 5m talking to me.
We all know that's not what Jake is doing tho.>>810781
Or check the thrift shops and rummage sales, clearance racks, ebay
Nope. Just easier to hint at trolling for gifties>>811736
Sage for no milk, but sometimes a spell calls for a dick with a wick. Can't explain why the Toxic2 have one, tho>>812568
If anyone is stealing anyones look, isn't it IBF whos stealing Elvira's eye makeup look?? But those tacky red contacts makes it technically diffrent so tgats fine then??
It's a super common belief that customs charges are a completely random thing that only happens to some packages for some reason? I think it's because they're quite bad at enforcing it in the UK. In countries with better postal services packages don't get overlooked as often.
but yeah there's an HMRC page on it one google away, it's not exactly esoteric information. Definitely fishing for gifts or bragging.
I know we all know Nadia was a rebound - but I'm hankering for some juicy details on what actually went down when he broke up with Nadia and ran back to IBF.
Is there milk on her actually finding him hitting up IBF online? Or whatever else was going on? Was IBF talking to Owl the reason Matthias noped out of the relationship? or was that just the cherry on top of other stuff?
How can you confirm? Who are you?>>812829
Yeah, this. And we all know they kept talking to each other, as they said they were still friends, there's even videos when she says this. If you mean that they were talking to each other
about feeling stuff
for each other you'll have to at least say what
they were talking and from where you got this information. Yeah, they talked, we know, milk, please
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I give up on this video he say something about them both moving that belfast is shite wonts move any milk were they going also they both are only Goths in Belfast it's worth watch to see shite he comes out with
Oh! That's what you meant, lol. Oh well, hopefully I helped someone who was wondering about that situation but didn't want to lurk the previous threads.
>I know we all know Nadia was a rebound - but I'm hankering for some juicy details on what actually went down when he broke up with Nadia and ran back to IBF.
Me too. But every time we ask a friend of Nadia's or an ex-friend of IBF's… Silence. It's really annoying and defeats the purpose of even posting that you're so and so's friend on the thread. Obviously we're going to ask what really went down.
>Was IBF talking to Owl the reason Matthias noped out of the relationship? or was that just the cherry on top of other stuff?
Since no one who knows them is answering, all we have is speculation. Most anons (including myself) are leaning more towards the Matthias was cheating thing. I mean fuck, he just got with that Chrissie(?) chick in like June, and suddenly they randomly broke up. Maybe he can't hold a relationship, chicks really do keep cheating on him, or he's a serial cheater himself. I mean, I did hear he was very flirtatious. But that doesn't always make one a cheater. I'm going to assume it will take an anon making a loud and very wrong post for one of their ex-/friends to come in here and spill the milk we've all been waiting for.
It's so obvious that she's fishing for the designer to send her the dress for free >>812855
So he promises his patrons a metal cover a month, does this for what, 2 months and now switches to audiobooks? I don't think he realisees the effort that goes into them either…
Anyone else find it incredibly irritating that the moment Kaya started to actually work on the attic, mr narc also started filming in the attic…
He has a recording/filming "studio", it's one of the bedrooms in the house. She got the attic. It took her forever to get off her ass and attempt to make it useable - but at least she did.
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I think he needs to get some help as this is not goth as I don't know what he trying but it's all for views and fan girls
that is fucking awful holy shit.
I noticed in Kaya's recent get ready with me video, her shadow pallet is falling apart. I wonder if Jake ever shares all the makeup he's buying himself with her. he seems to go through so much of it and Kaya's been using the same stuff for as long as I can remember
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30 year old unemployed man fails to be edgy in Belfast.
He actually gets the poor woman who works in the costume store to film him putting on a stupid hat
>>813029> Commercially minded "Goth"/Alt Rock boys have channels currently
I don't think there are any tbh. The only Goth guy channels I can recall are Cemetery Confessions, Accumortis, and Kai Decadence and they aren't popular or as big as the likes of IBF or the Toxic
Twosome but to be fair, they are actual Goths and not poseurs like the Toxic
Twosome are. I feel that people who make actual worthwhile content that genuinely relates to Goth (including women) don't get as much attention because actual Goth is not mainstream, nor was it meant to be. The fact that Jake finds some success is because he strikes out with the poser Mall Goffs as I don't know any actual Goths who actually like or watch him or Kaya for that matter.>>813186
Fucking nightmare fuel LMAO "Hello ladies"
You can replace this vlog with any of his others and it won't make a difference.>brags about board, taxi's home>mundane chores>hates on Belfast, nothing to do, no goth scene, no goths except them>says will try new thing on channel (which he'll then forget in a month) and half of it's on Patreon
And kek at "we don't have friends cos nobody looks like us." Already forgot the goths in your Manson video, who Kaya also hangs out with now?
Also kek at whining about Belfast. He's only doing it to seem cool and like he has high standards, but won't actually move - as long as kaya has that YT cash, he'll stay to leech off her.
Don't forget CaligoBastet, who is a sweetheart IMO.
As for Kaya, I feel like she needs a few things:
1) Dump Jake
2) Connect with someone who can be a proper adult-friend and give her the necessary tough love to get her life together
No milk to post, but I'm sure there'll be some soon when Jake 'n Kaya try to move, when IBF inevitably posts another video(its been a month…come on woman)
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Maybe if Jake made a video about voting it would be more interesting than the shitty chore vlogs he churns out.But that would require effort and thought
I'd love to see him try and talk politics. He seems to think these elections will have an impact on the UK parliaments deliberation on Brexit. EU elections aren't going to reverse Brexit you fucking retard that's our Commons and Lords that get the say since the public voted Leave.
Farage has been in EU for years he's even been giving off in their council meetings and it makes no impact on UK delegations.>>813215
Forgot Belfast being the capital it meant there was no clubs or any night life.
He's deluded. There are plenty of goths in Belfast, I can think of a handful off the top of my head that would be out in the bars and clubs around Belfast often and are involved in Larping and gaming etc. There are plenty of alternative people and the ones that do go out are the ones that get the music venues to do specific club nights. Sure Jake even says he only listens to Metal he's not particularly into goth music anyway so would he and his pop music loving gf even want to go to a goth night.
They don't have any friends cause they're fake af and everyone knows.
Yeah, Caligo may be nice and all, but l do think he belongs with the other poseurs. It has been some time since l watched this ig story,but he legit said ''l hate goth rock music'' and mostly listens to other stuff. I.e anything but proper goth music.
I'm not really fond of ppl being goth just for the aesthetics.
Also, there's smth bothering me, since y'all mentioned that he is now squatting the attic, after she finally managed to get some work done in it.
Is he actually helping her with that? I watched her chatty grwm, & she said she has no one to help her with the garden. What is he doing that is so important, that he won't give her a hand? Clown makeup and ''vlogs''?
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You're still doing it wrong.
>>813336> Don't forget CaligoBastet, who is a sweetheart IMO.
Oh right I forgot about him but honestly, I never considered him "Goth", I considered him a "Rivethead" like Amy Nekrotique because he has never talked about, shared, or expressed interest in actual Goth music. At the most it was Indusrial Metal so I'm just compelled to believe he's an Industrial Metalhead/Rivethead. But yes, he is great too.
And why are you guys so sure that if Kaya dumps Jake, she'll become a better person? I feel like you all give her too much credit. Look at IBF when she was single after she broke up with Mr. Owl. She was still the same kinda person. I feel it'll be the same for Kaya where she'll still be an e-begger who doesn't want to get a job or side hustle and will still have her fanbase to enable her just like IBF fans enable her actions.>>813474> "I hate Goth rock music"
Oh wow I didn't know he said that. Well there you have it, all the more reason why I don't consider him a Goth though it was obvious he was not into the genre since he never talked about Goth music. I liked Caligo for his personality though so I'll always have a soft spot for him, I just don't consider him Goth.>>813493
Oh for sure. As far as non-Goth alternative guys, Caligo is a-okay in my book. He's actually likable and yeah, he's an attractive guy which helps with his more extreme looks that even Jake cannot get.
And he certainly is only attracting young mall goffs. Did you see the picture of his fans, they're exactly what you expect them to look like lol
this is such a dick move. the whole reason she took the attic is b/c she wanted a space for filming, and once she actually got it together he just invited himself into the space without having helped make it presentable.>>813215
the level of cringe in this video, omf. his regular vlogs weren't ~spooky~ enough so he's going to film the same boring shit in this makeup and try to upload 3x a week. someone is fucking desperate for views/adsense. not so casually mentions ppl can send him stuff he'll open on camera, still using that store for his mail. ppl probably weren't interested in being on his patreon for shitty vlog music so he's going to use other ppl's books to sell instead. >>813322
that was one of the most annoying parts. like she was just posting about having ppl to hang out with, did they already chase them away with their horrible attitudes or what?
I'm glad someone said it. He doesn't even "look" goth (obviously because he's a rivethead), most rivetheads look like him and Amy Nekrotique. Real question is, why do these people want to be goth so bad. You hate the music and the lifestyle and are obviously into another music-based subculture, why not identify as that? Pretty pointless to identify with a scene you seem to loathe. >>813689>blah blah do I have to do this to be goff
Kaya responds with rambling and something about you don't have to listen to one kind of music to be goth. Kaya no one said anything about exclusively listening to goth, liking the music is literally the bare minimum. >>813186
I just think it's weird he dresses like this for streams and YouTube but when it comes to his concerts, (y'know, where you're really supposed to put on a show?) he's bare-faced and just stands there. Seems very boring, I don't understand how he has fans, shockingly they aren't coming from Kaya's channel either.
>>813886>Kaya no one said anything about exclusively listening to goth, liking the music is literally the bare minimum.
That's what these poseurs never get! I don't know if it's just defensiveness on their part and they're trying to make up that image of the evil elitists who dictate what you have to do to be goth so they don't have to think about what they're doing. But it's so ignorant to completely dismiss the fact that it's a music based culture and it's not enough to know a few songs so you don't look like a poseur (isn't that what Kaya sait at one point, not in these exact words but similar?).
It's the same with hip hop culture. You wouldn't dress in hip hop style AND identify with hip hop culture without mainly listeting to the music. Of course there are also poseurs and hipsters who only dress like that for the looks but they usually don't make it their whole identity except maybe they're really stupid kids who don't know better.
I think Jake gets his views exclusively from his "extreme" looks. When he still was dressing as a chav no one really cared about his videos except a few of Kaya's fans. He probably is attractive to young mall goths since there are no real alternatives on Youtube except the male goth youtubers that focus on content instead of looks, or they have looks that aren't meeting their expectations. Since he hasn't really changed anything about his content except that he looks like a Marilyn Manson wannabe, it must be that. I think the chances of clicking a video are higher when the person in the thumbnail looks extreme, also their teen fans don't seem to see that he's cringey af and a negative, whiny bitch that needs to grow up because they're mostly too young and lack life experience.
His music videos might also have had an impact on his views, to me it seems that young Youtube viewers like it when the people they watch make music, even if it isn't good (for instance, Social Repose) because it gives them the feeling that they "discovered" something on their own? That's just speculation though.
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They use the word ''Goth'' because it's one of the most popular alt genres. Not many know what a rivethead is, so they'll spam their posts with every hashtag/key word with goth in it.
The irony is strong with the file l attached, cuz now, even the goth^3 is for poseurs.
>>813886> I'm glad someone said it. He doesn't even "look" goth (obviously because he's a rivethead), most rivetheads look like him and Amy Nekrotique. Real question is, why do these people want to be goth so bad. You hate the music and the lifestyle and are obviously into another music-based subculture, why not identify as that? Pretty pointless to identify with a scene you seem to loathe.
Amy Nekrotique seems to somewhat be more honest about this as she does say she is a Rivethead or "leans more towards Rivethead". The biggest issue with her is how she lumps Goth and Industrial together by always saying "GothIndustrial" (I.E: "GothIndustrial Music", "GothIndustrial Club", etc). There is no GothIndustrial, both music are different genres with different characteristics. And her saying "GothIndustrial club" and only focusing on Industrial is just a "why even bother" kind of thing because she hardly if ever talks about Goth music. I like Amy because she knows her shit with Industrial music and is one of the only channels who delved deeper into its subgenres but I wish she would stop implying Goth and Industrial are one and the same, they aren't.
As for Caligo, I feel like the only reason he considers himself Goth is because he's another one of those people who thinks that just because he wears black and likes dark makeup, it makes him Goth when it really doesn't. Like I mentioned, I do like him but he needs to stop calling himself a goth and start calling himself a Rivethead because that's all he is. And it's true that if you look at Rivethead guys, Caligo's look isn't that unique. No hate but it's just if you look at bands like Psyclon Nine and Deathstars, Caligo's fashion looks just like theirs. >>814052
Because she's L A Z Y. Jake or not, she's a lazy ass who can't commit to anything.
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what a stupid looking dickhead.
he bought himself new urban decay and morphe products for this look and poor kaya gets to use the same falling apart cheap palette over and over
I can't unsee it now, thanks. Loooool.
But seriously, when y'all decide to post his pics, set them as spoiler images, l get the creeps everytime l see them lol. >>814376
They're currently getting more patrons, so people are really into the edgelord makeup, l'm afraid.
They see this as inspo to ''be yourself'' and not give a damn abt what others think.
accurate. the outfit was confusing to me b/c the jacket and hat did not go with the shirt/pants/shoes. video would've been better if he got more of the festival and less of him blathering on.>>814504
it's nice ppl are being inspired but they could do it without supporting a pair of do nothings. the rewards are fucking laughable and i bet they spend most of what they get through patreon on bills or bullshit to maintain their ~spooky~ identities even though they probably have a horde of crap that barely gets used.
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ill see myself out
this reminds me that she only shows her cat on ig. what happened to that bug thingy she had?
kind of looking forward to them moving b/c they have to haul all the crap they have to somewhere new and will likely complain even though it's their choice to do so. also new ~freak vlogs~ from jake that will be the same shit in a different place and stroking his own ego over ppl looking at him b/c he's in full makeup to run errands.
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Avelina ''treated'' herself to 10 pairs of killstar shoes. I'm glad that many people are waking up. (But ofc there's always a lot of wk defending her and shit)
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They love free shit way too much.
(I saw the pic she took with j*, idk what went through her head when she ut that ouftit together.)
1- they're also vile
2- they don't want to support anyone, they want free expensive shit, no matter where it's coming from>>814992
This bitch. Even if she has paid for all those 10 pairs of shoes it is still pathetic and itll irk people. We already know that she likes to buy huge amounts of the most expensive shit and brag about it (remember the video of her receiving a lot of black expensive gothy furniture for her new house?). We know her dad is rich but I guess it doesnt fully explain it, my guess is that hubby also has a VERY good job, like Allison's(kazlovesbats).
Avelina is bound to piss people up more and more because she can't stop bragging. That'll make everyone antipathyze with her, not just people who get mad at her for her claims to be goth but is just a barely into metal woman. Even her band is not even a lil bit close to goth in any fucking way. She's just a rich brat who is not good looking so she wants to "win" by having a lot of shit. Like she thinks having a shit ton of ornate black furniture from that outrageously expensive brand, all the makeup, and 100s of killstar shit will outgoth the other goths.
Avelina is like any other richy rich girl we met in school, except she is darkly inclined
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Is someone visiting attitudefest this weekend? Psychara and Manic Moth are going, but they don't even mention each other on ig. Maimagi is notably absent. Last year they were still best friends ever kek. Psychara is now jumping the clothing upcycling train with Nina Hexna, effectively stealing Maimagi's project from last year.
I really wanna be a fly on the wall for MILK.
Just checked, Psychara no longer follows nor likes Manic Moths pics kek. MM still follows her art ones though. I knew it will go down eventually.
Mai is probably no longer invited to Attitude fest cuz she dissociated herself from promoting fast fashion.
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I think Mai doesn't want to meet Psychara.>>815016>is bound to piss people up more and more because she can't stop bragging
that's Maimagi lol. Literally sitting in the home she just bought and be like "I'm not rich". She is fucking ignorant.
No Wonder why freiya doesn't want to live in NZ with her , she is absolutely nuts>>812479
Not that Anon, but what I know for a fact :
* IBF cheated on Mr owl with Matthias ( this is the reason why she never explicitly said anything negative against Matthias who cheated on her , because she cheated in Mr Owl with him, and maybe didn't want Matthias to spill the truth)
*Mr owl family gave her money so she could go to Germany,and Disney , they where very pissed of when she anounced she wasn't dating Mr owl anymore
*ibf was very pissed off when she found out Mr owl was dating Nadia and she even posted on Facebook about Nadia copying her , then got upset when nobody was in her side
She has already said several times that he has a very good job as a businessman, that's why he can't expose himself much. That's why he wears that horrible horrible wig. I'm surprised we never talked about how bad and obvious his wig is! Apart from his cringey look they both look like they're good people. Husband makes a lot and Allison lives a very well off life, with that huge beautiful house, they travel a lot and they spend a lot of money on that vanity project of a band they have, Allison doesn't seem to be a leach, she is a manager at a hot topic, does online tarot readings and commissioned artwork. I'm not even a fan of this bitch and got quite surprised by how good I talked of her!
Her style sucks for quite some years now, she can't sing for life, she hops anceatry like crazy and hubby's wig is embarrassing. There, I feel better now kek
actually according to the previous threads Nadia was 16 when they started dating, because that's the age of consent in NZ.>>815247
can you please say what your sources are, or provide evidence if you have any? I'm getting really tired of people making bold claims on this board with 0 evidence. it would be really easy for literally anyone to make up shit here and post it as fact.
What is the deal with Mai and her wealth? I remember when she bought that house and I watched the tour, I thought to myself that it wasn’t the kind of house a broke woodland fairy witch would be able to afford doing whatever it she does to make money. >>815190
Kek, I find it entertaining how so many of these friendship circles always dissolve in a matter of time. These girls were literally inseparable a few months ago.
can you please say what your sources are, or provide evidence if you have any?
I’ve heard the same as that anon wrt IBF/Matthias mutually cheating on each other but I don’t think there’s any way to prove it. Unless someone wants to hack IBF and dig up written communication with Mr Owl.
Rumors say Mai got her hands on inheritance. She was piss broke before that chunk of money came in.>>815263
It's hard to provide sources without revealing who you are. I got the gut feeling that this anon is probably from IBF's inner circle.
>>814504> They're currently getting more patrons, so people are really into the edgelord makeup, l'm afraid.
They see this as inspo to ''be yourself'' and not give a damn abt what others think.
Meh let them have their fun because it won't last forever. Edgelord makeup only impresses young kids but they will grow older and realize how dumb it looks and not want to see any more of it. That or Jake's laziness will set in and he'll stop uploading as much.>>814714> her views have plummeted over recent years to the point Jake now does better than her in terms of viewing figures.
So in a way the tables have turned and now Jake will be the breadwinner sorta speak. I mean I think both people are insufferable twits but Jake does seem to be more active with his channel than Kaya and unboxing videos are fucking boring as shit so it's no surprise people would be so turned off that they would unsubscribe her. To young eyed viewers, they're more likely to click on a edgelord makeup tutorial/look video than another unboxing video. >>814895> kind of looking forward to them moving b/c they have to haul all the crap they have to somewhere new and will likely complain even though it's their choice to do so
Kind of like what happened with IBF with the paint thing? lol >>814992
To the person who was under Avelina's post, uh no? The culture is still there and more REAL goths are coming out every year and sharing the music as well as new bands. Avelina is not a Goth, there's a reason no one in the actual Goth community talk about her (or Toxic
Tears), these people's fans are only impressionable teenagers and mallcore young adults who think they're goth because they were those brands. >>815000
Disgusting. >>815016> 1-they're also vile
Vile attracts vile as they say.
And Avelina would dry up if people would stop mentioning her. She's just a materialistic person with nothing interesting about her at all. She's not a Goth, Her music sucks, and she has no real interesting hobby… I mean what is there to look to her for unless you're someone who cares that much about shopping… >>815247
Like I mentioned above, if IBF doesn't like her mom that much because of how embarrassing she is, she should've just done what normal people do. Get a job, save money, then move out. Problem solved. My guess is that because Mr. Owl was still in school and didn't want to do an unnecessary move, it ruined IBF's little plan of finally escaping NZ and since she's too lazy to do the work herself, she tried to look for her meal ticket to get out and voila, found Matthias and used him to leave NZ. Obviously blew up in her face (lol) but yeah. Won't be surprised if history repeats itself in Edinburgh. >>815259
Lol Yeah Allison may have her cringe moments but she's not a bad person, she works to get the things she wants (she worked hard to earn money to pursue her true hobbies even if she's not great at them, it's admirable), and she doesn't sponge off of her fans. And I actually didn't know her husband wore a wig LOL
Wait up>[Allison] works to get the things she wants (she worked hard to earn money to pursue her true hobbies even if she's not great at them)
She works, and works hard at that? I've followed her for years and I've never seen any mention of work, it's just "my band Esoterik" or terrible art from her (not arguing with you, I'm genuinely surprised)
Oh I'm talking back during her KazLovesBats days. Before she started touring full-time with her band Esoterik, she was a Welder and she worked at an airport. She talked about this in an old video called "How to get a job while being Goth or Alternative" or something like that back in 2015. She unfortunately took it down for some reason before she deleted all her videos but in it she talked a bit about the jobs she did from waiting tables, working at Hot Topic, and then going to trade school to learn welding and got a job doing that at an airport.
I think once her husband got his well-paying job and was able to support both of them, she started pursuing her hobbies full-time from art and work with Esoterik around mid-late 2016.
The anon who mentioned the dreadful social repose as the person Jake is skin walking( as well as Manson of course) is spot on.
Social repose took a long break from YT and doesn't post constantly like he once did. Maybe Jake can nab some of his teen fans, in my view SR is even less talented than Jake (who to be fair,is a decent guitarist)but possibly even more obnoxious/entitled.
SR real talent was Ebegging his young fans to donate to his tour fund so he could buy a better car to more comfortably tour and bang his many groupies,yeah I know it's insane.
This occured when SR was a huge YT channel ( plenty of ad sense income)and was selling plenty of CDs and merch( self released music so he got all the profit)he was still greedy enough to ebeg for a car.
If Jake blows up, he will become even more insufferable,if that's possible.
SR grew his channel with his extreme makeup/costume looks including robotic wings which don't match his very lame music. SR also did many covers of hit songs, somehow not having the videos taken down for copyright infringement. Jake does one cover song and gets a YT strike.
And of course both these up their own arses edgelord morons constantly refer to themselves as "Goth".
Alison seemed ok,pleasant enough and she is a good visual artist..which I respect.
Sadly she appeared very very materialistic on YT, always focussed on shopping.fair play that she bought the stuff and didn't get loads of freebies or ebeg.
I don't get WHY Brady( Alisons husband) wears the wig? Is he ashamed to get on stage with what I assume to be a short, office friendly hair style? Or perhaps a shaved head? You see plenty of guys who do, and still look "cool",no big deal.Or is he trying to disguise himself completely so no business colleagues will find out he is in a shock horrorband? They do live in Oklahoma so maybe it would count against him at work.
Lmao, where's Jake's #1 fan at to come defend this look. They were in most of the previous threads defending his fail Manson makeup. >>815263
That's the thing we were complaining about, they like to mention they know these people or they're their friends, but when we ask them to spill the milk they vanish. It's not like they stop posting either, they just ignore people who ask for proof.>>815503>Social Repose
I remember that guy, never understood why he got popular either. Of course his channel is dying, apparently he got exposed for something. Kinda weird, but nowadays he looks like a really ugly 3rd member of Drab Majesty that they won't let perform on stage or show in music videos.
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For the record , here is Brady ( and yes, his wig sucks)
It does seem like Jake is gonna follow in SR's footsteps as a pathetic ebegger who has no real peronality, is a fake goth that no actual Goth will take seriously, and as soon as he dumps Toxic
Tears when his views start to surpass hers, he'll be touring and banging his edgelord groupies lol.
I almost even forgot about SR because you're right, his viewership has dwindled considerable and when he stopped dawning the ridiculous outfit as much. Just goes to show that he and others like him really are boring individuals who think their looks will keep people around.
And to be fair, back during the earlier days of Alternative YouTube, brand sponsorships weren't really a thing so it makes me wonder if she would've become a brand whore if they were a thing back in the day lol.
And on Brady, it's not a big deal if he chooses to wear a wig but he should really invest in a better one, it's the current year and wigs have come a long way haha.
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Found this under her video. I cringe at the thought of a kid talking about the toxic
twosome in school
It's also crazy how long she's been a poseur - since her early teens. Jesus. get yourself an identity already that's not fake
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Didn't she say her goal was 10 more pounds 25 pounds ago?
Her sleep schedule is erratic as ever. She said she was on 3 hours of sleep in this video. She drives to her usual spot, gets stoned in the car, takes a lengthy ramble while rambling. I skipped around, might return to it if the comments allude to anything interesting.https://youtu.be/f0MAriYQMB8
And she's not even that old, just 1/4-ish through life. And that's coincidentally when people go through changes in what they want to do with themselves etc but kaya seems…stuck? As a person?
Like she thinks her YT "career" is indefinite when she puts in 0 work, and she has no interests apart from ~g0ff~ and gardening (remember she said she gets and drops hobbies quickly? Doesn't even do that anymore).
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Life is pain. Life is only pain, guise.
Her “horrible baby-bat” looks were a lot better than the looks she lands upon presently. She hasn’t found a direction she’s comfortable with in her current physical state and it shows. Not that there is anything wrong with that, we all grow differently, but she looked more put together when she was younger because she was essentially dressing as such, young. She had a lot more confidence, friends and wasn’t with Jake. I truly feel he has encouraged unhealthy behaviours and influenced her negatively. I feel like she had so much potential when she was in the budding stages of their relationship and his toxic
hold hadn’t taken over. I know this is a pretty philosophical rant to go on over a picture but it says a thousand words. She just isn’t happy and isn’t addressed the narcissistic, smug bastard elephant in the room that is Jake. The evidence is clear from their older videos in mag (if you can be arsed watching any you’ll always find one sky remark or dig at kaya from him) and systematically that can tear someone down. Even when they play the fucking sims he makes viewing uncomfortable by how much he goes on about how sexy they are. Sim characters. He really is wreckless when it comes down to considering her feelings and insecurities, or even treating her like a fellow human being. I’m surprised that their “fans” don’t see this as they are exposed to their content willingly on a daily basis. I also get the feeling that their is little to no sexual chemistry in their relationship anymore. I understand that’s hard to convey on social media but…. if you compare a couple (I know they are problematic
af but bare with me) like Trisha paytas and Jason Nash… despite the toxicity and volatility of their relationship, there was still some minor degree of attraction? With kaya and Jake I get none of that. It’s truly sad to see. I know that the longevity of their careers is coming to an abrupt end soon, but they will move onto other ways to swindle people, beg, borrow, scam, gas light viewers and people into giving them what they want and funding their parasitic lifestyle as long as vulnerable people feel sorry for them. I hope it ends soon, not just for everyone’s sake, but for theirs too.
I would say she's being melodramatic at this point. I'm gonna guess something went awry with Scotland residence?>>816148
Your sympathy is pointless and wasted. If the bitch can't see the hole she's in, that's really all on her at this point and when the inevitable crash happens, that will be on her. I used to be sympathetic to her but it's already been like 2 years. Either you get it or you don't and you can't get help unless you help yourself. If she's that blinded by how awful Jake is, WELP that's that. And plus Toxic
Tears isn't great in her own right neither with her constant lazing about and whining for things instead of actually working for it. In some twisted way they are perfect for each other because I can't imagine other people willing to put up with them (well maybe Jake if he gets some desperate groupie).
Sorry if this sounds heartless but I would be saying the same thing you said back in 2017 because there was always instances of Jake being all kinds of bad for her but it just wore thin.
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Tbh they don't make a lot of money afaik. Brands like Killstar or Punk Rave either don't pay or pay very little at all. Psychara's family is somewhat well off, her mom is an overzealous idiot like Karen MacLeod who makes an ass of herself on IG. She has talent but is lazy as hell since her family is enabling her. Manic Moth is debt-ridden and her earnings aren't bragworthy.
Really hate the fake woke attitudes like you do but what I hate even more is when they try to pass it off as the result of their own work when it is not.
Maimagi pic related>rolling in dead old folk's dough>all my own hard work bought this house
smh your followers can't do it if their family is penniless, you shameless liar.
You are wrong about that , ibf had many shitty jobs when she was living in NZ, and already living with Barnaby , for some reason Mr owl didn't give a shit about marrying ibf back in NZ , he proposed but didn't have the intention to actually getting married , it's funny, everybody thinks ibf used Matthias , when Matthias way or living is basically using other people , freyja and Matthias are really alike , they just use people , and care about themselves, ) ask all his exgf lol , when I say ibf uses people I mean her followers.
If you've followed this thread and the last you'd know she got back with Owl at the very least in Dec of 2017. IBF and Matthias got two apartments in a new town in Germany and after months revealed they were getting divorced.
Various snippets from here and there suggest IBF and owl were hitting each other up before IBF/Matthias moved, or that the reason for "two apartments" was because of the breakup but they kept it quiet.
some even speculate IBF convinced Matthias to get two, to use one as a studio…and then kicked him out/kept the main apartment after the breakup. It's a decent chunk of speculation with a smattering of implications and truth scattered around.
Anyone have an idea what IBF is up to in Edinburgh? She must be sleeping somewhere right? Someone must've seen her out and about in town by now certainly?
I think that anon was just confused if they're still together because normal people don't try to move countries without their partner when they just got engaged lmao. With IBF it's also not unlikely that she breaks up with him in silence since the Matthias breakup/divorce also came out months later. There would definitely be a backlash if they'd flip flop and announce their engagement/upcoming marriage got cancelled again.
Oh yes, I'm also looking forward for anons taking pictures of freezer in the streets. Does anyone know on what kind of visa she is there? Is she allowed to work and rent a flat?
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>>816229> It seems more obvious than ever that IBF needs mental health support: actual counseling, not just happy pills…perhaps guidance from any friends/ family in NZ who aren't complete enablers( like her mum) who can bring her round to the idea that she is responsible for her own happiness or lack of it in her life, due to her own choices.
I don't think IBF doesn't have any friends in NZ. If she did, she would be talking with them or something. I think she really only has her mom and Mr. Owl there and she seemed to care more about being YouTube famous than making genuine friendships that aren't based on superficiality.>>816236
If this is true then fine, it wasn't easy then but still, running away to a country you don't even know (seriously, she didn't even know how to speak German competently) was incredibly stupid and the worst part is she expected people to feel sorry for her failed sham of a marriage and it's obviously she's gonna do it again.
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There's messy as an aesthetic, and then there's Jake trying and failing.
Its obvious his new "aesthetic" is all just superficial spoopy shock value, to prove he's goth again after his chav phase - its all copying and nothing that makes it unique to him. Aka he's in a mall goth phase. Skin walking Manson, visual kei, possibly rotten_hollow (who happens to be the "daddy" of Jude Bishop, Jake's #1 fan kek).
But then he turns around and looks normal at a gig… Afraid people would've made fun of him? Lol.
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She’s pulling the woe is me shit on her fb too
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Look who’s thirsting in Reeree’s comments. Is it confirmed he’s broken up with his lady?
Gangrene who? Anyway
, Jake looks like shit in all of his attempts to be alt. It will always come off as try hard, no matter how OTT or toned down he looks because he isn't alt at all, just a normie dude into some metal. I wonder if he claims goth because metalheads would call him a poseur and a fag, that and he knows the kiddies will come flocking to him because they think goth = black shit and really bad "metal" music>>816459
Probably tried to find a Scottish goff husband just to stay in Edinburgh and all of them said no. Now she's depressed, kek
I wouldn't say she's there quite, it'll start happening when people tell her to shove off when they get tired of her moaning all the time. She dug her own grave, she'll have to deal with it herself as she's the only one who can fix the problem.>>816600
Don't give her ideas now lol
He Brooke up with his sugar mommy not long ago , >>816293
I don't know what it's wrong with her ,she doesn't think about the consequences of her actions
* Fucks a guy she just meet while being drunk as fuck , not thinking that maybe this guy could hurt her or worse.
* Goes to live to another country with no money , no friends ,without even knowing the lenguage
*Gets drunk as fuck despite the fact that she takes depression pills.
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have you all seen @punk_noir on instagram? idk if he's a cow so much as a bit of a wanker, all he ever does is post pictures of his crotch
>>816624> I don't know what it's wrong with her ,she doesn't think about the consequences of her actions
* Fucks a guy she just meet while being drunk as fuck , not thinking that maybe this guy could hurt her or worse.
* Goes to live to another country with no money , no friends ,without even knowing the lenguage
*Gets drunk as fuck despite the fact that she takes depression pills.
It's because her fans enable her. She only has her mom who is nutter and Mr. Owl who's a bit of doormat to be honest. She has no honest friends and her fans constantly gas her ass up. She most likely won't get the picture until she finally hits rock bottom and her fans won't be willing to bail her out financially like they used to (same goes for the Toxic
Jake looks like a Juggalo going to a Manson concert. Or a Mansonite going to a Gathering of the Juggalos. Take your pick
If he was half way of decent a person he maybe could get away with it.
no bulge, dick must be tiny. 1/10>>816624
Can someone fill me in? What's the story of this guy?