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>scene queen turned kawaii influencer>"mental health advocate" with self-diagnosed bipolar and body dysmorphia >first came under fire after posting one of the most entitled videos to ever grace the kawaii sector of YouTube, where she shares the story about how she demanded Angelic Pretty let her return a $1000 dress, despite their no returns policy, because she did the price conversion wrong… then proceeded to say they probably didn't want to let her return it because the company wasn't doing well>also blocked Lovely Lor when she did a super sweet video in Kelly's defense, all because she wasn't 100% kissing her ass and pretending she did no wrong>can't handle any criticism and blocks whoever gives it, even blocked a fan for nicely pointing out that she forgot to censor someone's address in a mail video>threw a tantrum over not being featured in a Final Fantasy Gallery and had the nerve to show up even after inciting her followers to harass the gallery over it>has requested her followers pressure companies to send her free shit>boycotted Sanrio for about two seconds for refusing to sponsor her>does a fan mail opening series where her entitled attitude tends to seep through, she has full blown dismissed gifts she deems unworthy and has even used a fan's sign they made her as a ramp for her dog>complains constantly about being broke, yet can afford things like expensive cosmetic procedures, $600+ pink microwaves, a purebred Pomeranian, regular clothing and furniture hauls, along with all sorts of other shit… while renting a nice house in Hollywood and a studio apartment she doesn't even actually need (and barely uses) for making videos>sells items given to her by sponsors and has a reputation as a shitty seller>seems to blindly accept any sponsorship, given that she will do ads for companies known for being downright harmful (flat tummy tea for example)
The Fellowship>has a group of friends that call themselves "the Fellowship of the Rainbow" due to all of them having colorful hair >Kelly's "best friend" and roommate Dre has been distancing herself from Kelly for a while now, the most telling moment being when Dre requested they start doing a lot less videos together and Kelly proceeding to throw a shitfit over it on Twitter (literally saying it was wrong for Dre to leave her out of the spotlight she helped create for her) Dre is now moving out this month>also worth noting she was calling Dre her best friend after hardly knowing her at all, which is rarely a good foundation for a healthy relationship>most of the Fellowship didn't even know Kelly was having her most recent surgery until she announced it on Twitter>couldn't even keep her depression to herself and fake being happy for her other best friend Stephanie's wedding, and made that a center theme of the blog she made for it>group has barely any sense of tact in public and has no problem being loud and obnoxious (two words: air horn) Steph has also worn a literal lingerie set to Disneyland
"the most telling moment being when Dre requested they start doing a lot less videos together and Kelly proceeding to throw a shitfit over it on Twitter (literally saying it was wrong for Dre to leave her out of the spotlight she helped create for her)"
Any captions of this? Just curious, because i´d heard about it before but thought it was just speculation.
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Posted the same exact day that Dre announced hitting 100k subs, and right around when she first mentioned Dre wanted to keep their channels more separate.
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She deleted this.
Honestly, while I definitely think Kelly is probably a very draining/potentially toxic person to be close to and most likely has BPD… I'm kinda on her side with this one.
I started watching Kelly when she only had like 35k subs and Dre was essentially a nobody. Dre's audience was pretty much entirely Kelly's fans until about 60-75k subs when she started to get recognition outside of "Kelly Eden's roommate". Then once she got her own audience and began to surpass Kelly, she wanted their channels separate.
Doesn't anyone else think it's sketchy AF that she was more than happy to do videos with Kelly for all that time, but the second she surpasses her in subs she wants to distance herself? I wouldn't think anything of her desire to get her own audience if it weren't for the fact that by the time she actually did that, she already had milked Kelly's for all it was worth. So yeah, imo Dre was straight up using Kelly until she got what she wanted and no longer needed her to further her audience.
Also, keep in mind that at the time Dre did this, Kelly wasn't seen as problematic
at all (even if you go to her PULL thread, you'll notice that no one was starting to seriously criticize her until months after that) so you can't even justify it with not wanting Kelly to tarnish her brand.
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Holy fuck, I knew her fan base was cultish, but justifying her scamming her Patreon supporters with "maybe don't give hundreds of dollars to a stranger?" is a whole other level. Absolutely appalling.
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Her Patreon needs to be updated honestly. Also looking at her goals it looks like a lot of people unsubscribed to her and the second goal was deleted, anyone knows what it was?
Here's a peak of her Patreon posts from last month, maybe her patreons will finally get a SM skit, or maybe it's backtracking for all the backlash she's been getting for not putting one out in over a year.
I'm sure that Dre had been feeling like she wanted to distance herself for a while. People don't just wake up one day and decide something like that. She probably got sick of Kelly's shit really fast but hadn't found a way to tell her because she was worried about her reaction (we've all seen that people have to tiptoe around Kelly since she has outbursts where she plays the victim). Also, Kelly has been problematic
, whether or not threads had been created against her yet or not. I'm sure that the people who have worked with her or are friends with her/were friends with her have realized this.
I don't want to insinuate that you are Kelly, but your post sounds very bitter towards Dre. Dre isn't perfect either but I doubt that she had an agenda to use Kelly to get fame.
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Lol rting Audrey Kitching after she was recently mentioned in her last thread
I'm sick of her making it sound like she got some huge life saving surgery. It's cosmetic surgery FFS.
I get that, but why wait until after you already got all the followers you could from your friend's fan base? Even if using Kelly wasn't her intention, she picked timing that would inevitably make it look bad. You have to admit the timing is suspicious even if you don't think she was using her. If she had done it before she hit the peak of what she was going to get from Kelly, I wouldn't think anything of it, but to do it right after doesn't look good.
>I don't want to insinuate that you are Kelly, but your post sounds very bitter towards Dre.
And all the posts I make about Kelly are bitter toward her, just like everyone else's. Of course it sounds bitter about Dre when she's the focus. That's the point of the site. Bitching about cows and their friends you don't like.
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Not very milky but it seems that Kelly is losing more followers than she's gaining on Instagram. Same can't be said about her youtube or Twitter though. (Screenshot from socialblade)
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Especially when you compare it to Dre's insta. That's quite a difference in daily average growth.
Don't forget it was also the PASTEL GOTH critique video that Dre made with Kelly. That video really shot Dre's popularity and got her over 100k subs while Kelly was still in 90k subs. After that video, Dre thought she was hot shit and decided to do her own thing. Before the Pastel Goth video, Dre was a nobody and I remember she had only 20k subs while Kelly had almost 100k subs, but not quite there yet.
so I get why Kelly was bitter and hurt.
I can see your user icon at the bottom Anon, you should request deletion of that post.>>517818
Nice work on the OP!
This so hard
Kelly might be a cow, but that doesn't mean Dre didn't use her. Whether it was intentional or not, that was still the outcome.
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So I guess they are friends again? Guess she has been reading here again kek
I said this in the previous thread before it closed, I'm wondering if everyone realized that the radio silence between them is causing bad optics and harming their Fellowship of the Rainbow 'image'…
I've never been on a forum like this one, before yesterday. I am not a 'fan' of Kelly Eden per se; she is just one of the channels I watch or have on in the background when I'm getting ready to work. Sometimes I check their instagrams because I like their style and use it for inspiration when I'm making arts and crafts.
If even I, a casual viewer that does not watch every video of theirs, noticed how off everything has been lately, then how are genuine fans reacting about all of this drama?
I became curious enough that I searched Kelly and Dre's social media accounts to see if I could glean some information, but nothing. I even braved the Youtube comment sections, and again, nothing.
So I googled my question and ended up on here and some other 'youtube' forum. I ended up reading and wow, I had no idea of half the stuff that was going on, much less this latest moving situation.
My point is this: If I, a casual viewer, can tell something is off, and then I go off to search for answers, then I can only imagine how many other fans have done the same thing and are reading these same forums I have read yesterday and today. These threads not only put Kelly in a bad light, but it puts the rest of the group in a bad light as well. Considering how bad everyone's money situation has been lately, I don't doubt they decided to act civil in order to quell any suspicion and prevent more viewers from finding theses threads.
Do you have to be so upset? And actually, I edited this comment and removed a few sentences, so it's actually not 'word for word' if you want to be technical…
Anyway, I posted it again because I don't know if anyone saw it, since I made it late at night and this new thread was started shortly after.
I have no idea what 'sage' means, sorry.
A lot of people read these threads, people are more likely to reply if they have something to add or to disagree, doesn't mean we aren't reading if people don't respond. Everyone read the initial post hence the responses now…
Sage means write the word "sage" in the email field which prevents the thread being bumped if you are not adding new information. (blue "Anonymous" vs green)
Opinion counts as not new information, screencaps are new information.
Alright, I appreciate the information. I Hope I'm doing this correctly.
Like I said, I've never been on this type of forum before. And to be honest, I doubt I will stay around here, since I do not think I'm the target demographic. It's not just the forum rules that I unfamiliar with, it's also the way the conversations go that sometimes baffle me. Some of these threads I read last night and today left me feeling old, if that makes since.
When I found these forums I was like "dese bitchez" but here I am still contributing a month later. I recommend clicking the links to OT and G, the people who use this site are actually pretty good/kind people under our bitchy exteriors.
But yeah the format is pretty much throwing down a comment and walking away, any serious topic development is derailing. It's pretty interesting regardless
I do not want to derail this thread, so I will make this my last comment on the subject. I see the value in this forum; I ended up binge reading on it last night and today. I've learned a lot about several youtubers that I regularly watch.
I'm glad that this forum has exposed their phony personas, even if I wasn't really invested in them to begin with. Although I enjoyed watching them, sometimes these channels would make me feel inadequate about my life; these men and women are mostly younger than me, yet they have accomplished much more than I have. They seem to have everything figured out and they are living wonderful, successful lives. I now see that it really isn't as great as they make it out to be.
In a way, this strange forum has made me feel like I'm doing okay. I don't have a fancy house, I don't have a lot of friends, I don't go on trips or get latest makeup or fashionable clothes. I'm 'old', I work 50 hours a week and I'm always tired. But you know what? I love my friends and at least I can say I haven't hurt or lied to anyone. At least I can go to bed knowing that my friends really value me and aren't trying to use me.
I realize this all sounds corny, but it's past midnight, I'm tired, and I'm still trying to digest the fact that most of the youtubers I watched and admired were noting but liars this whole time.
Ah, well. To anyone reading, good night.
Anon, that's probably why most of us are here. I know you're new to this so I'll give you a bit of a pass, but most people here like to talk about cows because they make us feel better about our own lives and situations. most cows are people who project an ideal or enviable life, but underneath it all they're sad shitty people who are filing the void in their life with superficial shit instead of meaningful friendships and relationships.
Welcome to lolcow.
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Not much milk, just Lor mentioning it on Twitter. She also Tweeted another one along the lines of "She blocked me over that video!" Given the timeframe and the "I was rotting for you! We were all rooting for you!" gig, it's clearly about Kelly.
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I know it's a Kelly thread, but I have to weigh in and agree. My favourite of her horrible tattoos is the one for when Carrie Fisher died. It looks like a kid who just started learning to draw did it. It's so bad. Not to mention the artist fucked up when he/she wrote the "You're My Only Hope" because they spelled it "your" and realised it needed the e and the ' and they squished it in there. It's so obvious too. Photo related.
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Whoever Photoshopped this needs to uninstall it immediately.
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yikes… I guess Dre wanted a Sailor Jerry style but you need a really good tattoo artist to pull that off. The pistol looks so thin in that tattoo, too. more horrible tattoos on her chest
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and another pic of terrible arm tattoos. Dre does NOT have a good tattoo coordination, she just picks a bunch of random designs and puts them on her body.
however I have to say that I am impressed with Dre for losing a lot of weight. Back before she became popular for "Pastel Goth" critique video, she used to be much heavier.
old video from early 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNMF2i3ZUKo&t=197s
She definitely lost some weight and looks much better now. I just wish she'd stop getting bad tattoos :/
Put the link in the YouTube bar to embed it!
Stops them from getting views
Which I guess doesn't matter too much since she's been demonetized lmao
Polite sage, hope this doesn't count as mini modding
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I’d be proud of her for her weight loss if she had just been honest about it. She ignored any comment about her losing weight and in a life Instagram video said she wouldn’t answer any questions about it… but then she went on twitter after months of people asking and said the only change she made to lose the weight was she started drinking more water. LOL OKAY DRE.
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But she did loose weight and she looks good, she should be proud and not "lets stop talking about it" ??
esp in her most recent insta post.
I remember someone asking if she was actually plus size (or something along those lines) and she got super defensive and was all like "oh no, I AM plus size, i'm just tall"
she strangely touchy about that subject. It's like she thinks being plus size is such a huge part of her image that she's not special if she's not?
sage bc dre and idk if anyone cares
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So last I checked this thread was about kelly. Make a Dre one and take your shit there and stop derailing.
Why didn't she get a breast reduction again? She's obviously gotten lipo, did she think the huge fake boobs are going to look passable now?
idk, most of the time when girls don't want to address their weight loss is because they're doing things to lose weight that most people would get upset about, like ED shit.
Sage because Dre and there's absolutely no proof, but most people who make a good weight loss are pretty quick to brag about it or share advice.
nah. just pointing out that's probably why she's hiding her methods of losing weight. >>519251
yup. just "drinking more water" doesn't make you lose weight. that's literally the stupidest thing I've ever read. you make a lifestyle change, whether it's good or bad. if she was working out or eating healthy, she would probably post about it. I'm calling it here, she's doing some bad habit shit. maybe not full ED but it's clearly not anything good.
When/where was This tattoo shown? She’s pretty young, so I imagine a lot of the tattoos were chosen at 18/19, which I feel like is a little understandable? (I would have gotten shit tattoos at 18) but yeah this one is not great.
I second this.
Also, does anyone else find it uncomfortable how Kelly has began to really embrace her underage audience when a huge chunk of her channel centers around her adventures with her porn star friends, who she heavily promotes?
I'm not usually one to go "think of the children!" when it comes to YouTubers, but I genuinely worry about the influence the Fellowship might have on their underage viewers.
Hence the "allegedly".
She works as a makeup artist and has a few - as you mentioned - DIYs.
Apparently her educational background is steep in artsy fartsy stuff too - Waldorf or something silly like that.
True, except she crucified fans for complimenting her weight loss, even picking a random comment off her Instagram complimenting her to screenshot and post on Twitter labeling that person as being problematic
. She didn’t even blur their username. The fan was genuinely trying to be nice and give Dre a compliment to make her feel good and she dragged her for it.
It's funny y'all act like you're so much better than kelly and the fellowship when you're not. You're mean for no reason, you're broke, and you're bitches. You're probably jealous of the fellowship girls. You all act like they did something to you personally and it's fucking hilarious how you guys fucking stalk her to a point to up her government name, her address, body shame, drop slurs, but then go "no kelly is bad! she was mean to me and she also bought a dog and she's a fat girl!!!" W H O C A R E S if y'all hate the woman so much why does it bother you? Are you mad that you're not kelly? Also, why are you slut shaming Steph, she gets money from having a great body and sharing it with whomever pays and unlike most of y'all she's married and happy. You people are the ones who need to get help if you're in here fucking talking shit about a person you will never meet, have never met, and will continue to live their life on the internet making more money than you. She's a true scammer, because you were scammed into caring. Iconic, truly, honestly.
She is literally unable to give a substantive answer to half of these. And Inuyasha came out a million years ago and isn't even that good (this coming from a Rumiko Takahashi fan). Everything she mentions has been on tv dubbed or was on Netflix. She couldn't even give an example of ONE SCENE that she counted among her favorites and somehow thinks the late student running to school with toast trope is the best thing ever.
There's that heternormative bullshit with the waifu question. People who have waifus are not all boys? When she describes her favorite openings and endings, it's mostly Inuyasha (which too be fair had great music) and she likes them because….they show all the characters and allude to their relationships? Like every other anime op/ed??? There are so many actually stylish or cinematic iconic openings of popular shows like Cowboy Bebop or Evangelion or Utena.
She says her least favorite thing about anime is the people who accuse her of being a fake fan "because of her appearance." I'm sorry, but who the hell grew up in the 90s, claims to love magical girls, but is only seeing CCS for the first time in 2018? It was re-aired network TV for YEARS, and I know this because it took me years to record all the episodes on with my VCR. Sage for sperging, but what the actual hell. I can't believe I live in a time where people pretend to like anime to be cool. "Now you guys are seeing how weird I really am!" SMH.
Lol what even. >>520012
Definitely not broke, honey. Paid off my house last year and bought a second new car this year. Just hate how shitty Kelly is as a person. She has potential to be a really good influence in areas such as LGBTQ (pending she's ACTUALLY bi), mental health, and being an all around decent role model for young girls, yet she is just a pile of shit who blames everything on her alleged mental illnesses, can't take criticism, own up to her mistakes, or even follow through on promises for a simple Patreon page. Most people on here are people who used to be fans of hers before she started showing her true colours.
>>520079>you didn't fall for a scam so therefore you shouldn't care if scams are being carried out elsewhere
yeah no that's not how it works
if you were prosecuting someone who was running a ponzi scheme, telling the jury 'yeah, but you didn't fall for it, so you should let the defendant go free!' isn't going to earn you any points.
you stupid cunt.
Just shhh. To say we are broke and jealous, no. Some of us like to bring attention to people that just milk money and use people. Kelly has used lots of people, look at her old MAC Denver family who did sweet stuff for her and she just wants nothing with them. Her old Goth MALE roommates who would bring her stuff, take her out, introduce her to people when she first moved to California…and then she just cut them out. She moved in with Demonpuff…then threw shades, when Demonpuff was just trying to help her out and introduce her to people and invite her to Shrinkle (makeup artist) events. She had a high position at Makeup Forever and quit within less than a month, which screwed the schedules and time of a lot of people. Kelly later gets roommates with new people who pay rent and she just instructs them how and what to do around the house to keep her "aesthetics", because she is a control freak. Then the ginger guy with Dre move in, and she films them all the time, breaking their space and boundaries for views on her ig and yt. Seth moves out, and Dre later has issues with Kelly. Kelly constantly re-adds/deletes Dre and Kota. When she first got to L.A cause issues with flirting with Ashley Purdy. She just has screwed lots of people. Didn't give an ounce of shit when Davey was being screwed over with his music label, and just wanted attention to herself. I can go on. Why so many people distance themselves from this girl. She use to be sweet but that damn ego. Hollywood for y'all. Its a small sad circle. Also, could care less that Stephanie films and works with nudity, just be authentic with photoshop when you constantly talk about body positivity.
It's internet celebrities own faults threads like these exist. They treat all criticism equally whether valid and respectful or slander and things that are actually offensive. They just delete it all.
When you censor your audience like that, that means they have to go elsewhere to talk and instead of their comments getting buried in thousands of youtube and instagram comments, they end up on a forum where it pops up on the first page when people google your name.
When you're constantly putting your own voice and opinion out there, it's only fair to allow people to disagree or respond with their own opinion. You don't even need to read it or respond to it, just simply let their voice as exist as yours does.
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Some ancient milk, but I think it's time "Lovely" Lor took down her "helpful" video which is now very old news, but still shows up as the first video result for Kelly, pic related. It's obvious it was always made because Lor is a 2/10 in every department. I just watched a Lor video and then switched to the start of a Kelly one and K looks like an angel in comparison to the sunken-eyed, horse-faced, personality-free, monotone Lor. The only motivation for that video was jealousy, and IIRC she even calls Kelly a bimbo in the video. Very "helpful" and "lovely".
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Ancient milk pt 2, comments on Lor's original Instagram post where people pointed out the video was bullying
That's exactly right, that's why I read lolcow. To get actual truthful opinions. Nearly every single person on social media blocks and deletes anything that isn't praise, and it gives a false impression. For example the artist mab graves is obviously a ripoff of mark Ryden. You never see that mentioned on her Instagram, or any criticism.
I looked her up on youtube and found a comment where someone said she blocks and deletes any mention of Mark Ryden from her page. They create a "perfect" social media space which is just a hug-box. They will say they are only blocking trolls but it's actually ALL opinion which isn't flattery.
Honest people have to go elsewhere to have any kind of discussion.
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From lovely lors curious cat.
Yeah it's totally normal for someone to act like a child and block everyone that doesn't suck her asshole.
I feel like the Dre hate is so unwarranted and derailing. She wrote a genuine apology for this, which Kelly would never in a million years do. I'm much more inclined to give someone the benefit of the doubt if they can own up to their mistakes. Especially when she's so much younger than Kelly!
And I have to agree with her points. I once lost 40 pounds but it was because I was caring for a disabled family member and was incredibly depressed and didn't have the resources to take care of someone else and myself. I had always wanted to lose some weight, but when I got compliments on my weight loss, it felt pretty shitty to have my weight loss be something people praised me for when was the result of me being stuck in an awful situation that I didn't want to talk about.
Dre's content has only gotten better with time, she actually does things with her skills, like being in a band and actually working as a makeup artist and getting sponsorships where she doesn't try to sell the free stuff she gets on depop after she makes a video. Kelly is so much more obviously an obnoxious and shitty person, so I don't get where the hate is coming from.
The term whiteknight gets so fucking overused on this site to the point where it's lost its meaning. Anon straight up says they agree with Tyler's video, but acknowledges that it was over the top in its cuntiness, so they're a whiteknight? Anything short of sucking the asshole of anyone shitting on a cow makes you a whiteknight on here.
Do you have autism? I'm being serious, not trying to be edgy. Because it's a defining trait of autism not to understand why people aren't going to take your point into consideration when you word it in a totally assholish way. Obviously, Kelly isn't one to accept criticism no matter how it's delivered, but if you don't get why even the most rational person would dismiss Tyler's video given how bitchy she was, then you might be a literal autist.
Agreed. I don’t get why Dre snaps when people ask questions about her or Kelly when they broadcast most of her life. Like this Dre losing weight topic, or when she flipped out on people for asking why Kelly was getting her shitty tattoo removed… on an Instagram video kelly posted of her GETTING HER SHIITY TATTOO REMOVED. “You can watch the video of her tattoo being removed but how dare you ask why
!!!!” You put your whole life out there with the sole purpose of gaining fame, you can’t get mad and lash out when people notice things about you that have changed physically or when they ask you questions that you may not like.
LOL the Dre hate is so not unwarranted.
First of all, her content has not gotten better, it's mostly sponsored or PR content right now. 4/5 of her last videos are sponsored or PR. The other video features her pretend sucking on a shot glass for big lips.
Secondly, as flawed as Kelly is, Dre was 100% using her, maybe she didn't set out to use her but she did and then dropped her the second she had enough of a following to break out on her own. The only reason I knew who Dre was or ever started following her was because of Kelly.
Thirdly, did you not see the video she made with some other Youtuber where they just made fun of a bunch of primary school kids on musicly? She gets so triggered
over all of these social issues but hey, making fun of kids when you have a platform and they don't is okay.
Then, we can talk about how 21 is still well into adulthood where you should know better than to act like a complete cunt to your fans that are at least half children.
She won't even open mail on camera because mail is private. How rude is it to be sent gifts and not even acknowledge the person that gave them to you? I don't see the issue considering her channel is desperate for content, it's nearly a ghost town on there.
If Dre actually produced enough content to warrant her own thread, we could talk about there. But instead she's a walking talking uber bitch commercial that has no problem using and dropping people the second she's sucked all that she can out of them.
I wonder how long it will be before she realizes Bad Wolf (who are amazing btw) aren't getting her anywhere and drop them too to try some dumb failing solo project featuring her whisper singing.
Oh, how about that time when she kept posting pics of her and Chris cosplaying together where they were nearly kissing and then flipped out because people were asking if they were together?
Oh god, the tattoo thing was so fucking annoying.
Like yeah- when you're removing a tattoo of your mother you should probably explain the reasoning otherwise people are gonna wonder if something is up. What's so difficult about being like "I think the tattoo is ugly and want a prettier one"?
I don't think that YouTubers should have to divulge every detail of their lives, but when stuff is right in your audience's face, they're reasonably gonna have questions.
I couldn't agree more, anon.
I'm really sick of all the people using Dre's age as an excuse as if that means she doesn't deserve criticism for her shitty behavior just as much as Kelly or any other person discussed on this site. Like holy shit, 21 is old enough to know that making fun of little kids for bad singing to thousands of people is super fucked up. A fucking 13 should know that.
>>520662>I don't think that YouTubers should have to divulge every detail of their lives, but when stuff is right in your audience's face, they're reasonably gonna have questions.
Kelly does this with everything. Even now, she's doing it with her surgery (her entire twitter feed is her talking about having surgery, posting pictures of herself in bandages, making tweets about her doctor and how grateful she is to have survived and other histrionic shit but refusing to give any details about it other than it was cosmetic). It's a double whammy of attention-seeking because she gets to put something online for attention but be vague, and then victimize herself when people ask questions about it because how DARE they it's so invasive!!
It's like vaguebooking. People should grow out of that behavior…
It's not about people having to share their personal live online (even youtubers), privacy is a thing that should be respected, the thing is Kelly doesn't even respect it herself, she uses it as something to squeeze money out of people, the only reason she won't blab about it right away is because she hopes people contribute to her patreon so they can get to hear all about her "interesting" live.
She isn't worth it tbh considering she isn't even that big of a youtuber but it's totally trying to play into people's curiosity by dangling it in front of people's faces and than going "no no, pay me first"
I remember this was a thing with her tattoo too, I honestly thought the scoop was that she was going to remove the sailor moon tattoo she only recently got (I didn't even know where on her body she was having it removed then) and it was because she hadn't gotten the permission of the artist to use it, because I remember when she revealed it she either didn't know the artist or didn't know how to contact them which is a pretty shitty thing to do in my opinion. but apparently she is getting another art piece this artist did so i'm assuming she managed to ask this time?
Anyway I feel sorry for all the people who laid down actual money back then only to hear "I think its ugly gonna get a new one"
But yeah, It just shows how shallow and self absorbed she is to believe people have to pay her for mundane information, not saying she can't, just saying she's got a big head
Holy crap you're right. I just read it as psycho but it's a very Jill flavor of psycho>>520766
She still doesn't have permission. You don't need it for a tattoo, the law is she has to cover it if she's on TV or whatever.
She tweeted like mid-2017 with a link to the artist's page and said it was impossible to contact. A few people offered to message the artist, found an email address and a blog she could contact but she ignored it lol
I feel like this happens a lot in these types of threads where there's a cow & her buddy. For whatever reason farmers start staning the friend because they don't seem as bad as the cow (like momokun & vamp).
But lets remember, they may not be the same person, but they're friends for a reason. I don't think Dre is as bad as Kelly, but I don't see why anyone should be white knighting her here. I pretty much agree with everything anon said here >>520617
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Why the fuck do people get this cunt tattooed on them. I don't get it
How immature do you have to be to do things like unfollow and refollow your real life "friend" (in quotes because who knows)?
I'm imagining scenarios when they lived together like…Dre would forget to empty the dishwasher so Kelly would unfollow her, then she'd let the dog out or do some other favor so Kelly would refollow her…over and over forever.
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we get it, you're single
This was really cringey & hard to watch
& woah at the amount of ps on her jaw in the thumbnail
I think the most problematic
thing about Kelly and Dre is their avid vocal support of Lime Crime because they're friends with Doe Deere. Kelly is super close to her and Dre sucks her dick in review videos because she obviously wants to be. God, they're so tacky.
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Finally she started a video barefaced! Kudos to you Kelly!
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I'm somehow happy and terrified at the same time with Kelly being barefaced.
This. Through and through.
She tries to emulate Usagi but that flops so hard…
Have you ever noticed her stupid designs on her cell phone cases and mugs that she sells on her society6 site? https://society6.com/kellyeden
They're all "Daddy" and other sort of bdsm related themes. Most likely she is probably just trying to be 3edgy5you, but it's fun to mock her for dabbling.
Sorry got the incoming tin foil.
The "Fellowship" seems like a pretty large group of women, right? And most of them seem to be either married or in a somewhat serious relationship. And since Kelly is open about how she hates being single, you'd think her friends would want to help her out.
I find it hard to believe that between all those women and all their partners, and their partner's friends, coworkers, etc, none of them have tried to set Kelly up with someone.
They are all "alternative" looking ladies, surely at least one of them must know a single guy in Kelly's age range that would be into an "alternative" girl.
Which leads to be believe that either:
A) Kelly has impossibly high standards, far outside of her league, or
B) All her friends know she has a shit personality and would be a high maintenance nightmare to date and want to spare the guys in their life from her.
Oh man I don't think this is tin foil at all. Option B sounds sooooooo correct.
If you're in such a "tight knit" group of friends and they know how "important" relationships are to you, there's no way they wouldn't try to set you up with someone.
Unless they know you're a raging thundercunt and they don't want to have to lose a friend when you inevitably fuck it up.
I think it was davey suicide if he was the one she was engaged too? it was back in the day I came across her youtube and recognized her from that wedding dress show, I wanted to know if she ended up marrying the dude because it didnt seem like she was living with a husband. I am trying to find that interview again but it was like over a year ago.
edit: think i found it! dont know if this was the same one i read back thenhttp://www.justarocknrolljunkie.com/davey-suicide/
Davey has tweeted some nice things to Kelly but kelly never responds, im pretty sure she's avoiding him and hasn't she admitted in multiple video's she had a "relationship" go really sour which she still had difficulties with and blames for not being able to get back into it. I don't think Kelly sees Davey as a friend no more, nothing is known about the break up anyway since Kelly never said anything about it (remember the video explaining to people she wasnt married, and they could stop asking about it because her "husbando's was a weeb thing, while the people where referring to Davey which was pretty obvious), Also she's pretty open to sell out her personal experiences like talking about coming out as bisexual, getting cosmetic surgery, her alcoholic father, but she gets reaaaaally touchy when asked about Davey so I don't think it was a mutual drifting apart.
this is from her tumblr:http://kellyeden.tumblr.com/post/162020295086/i-know-this-may-be-personal-and-feel-free-to-nothttp://kellyeden.tumblr.com/post/162020279736/i-hate-to-pry-or-be-invasive-but-as-someone-who
doesn't really sound she's talking about an ex she's still friends with.
My point is I wouldn't be surprised if guys dated her for her looks only to ditch when they find out what she's really like (high maintenance and crazy)
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I might be overreaching, but it looks like Dre got fillers.
Why would she delete the video? Stop stanning Kelly. Lor isn’t a bully for saying Kelly is dumb. If anything Lor should have made a more harsh video about it, she was too nice trying to not take sides. Kelly should be reminded for a long while she is a dumb American everyone laughs at.>>520350
Lor said on twitter a while ago that she isn’t blocked anymore, kinda like the back and forth she does with Dre.
His tweet with the now deleted photohttps://twitter.com/DAVEYSUICIDE/status/837904553932640256
Weird how it got deleted.. wonder if Kelly bitched at him to delete the insta post
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wonder if it's a dig at Kelly
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She is literally a professional mall goth.
I also find it humorous that in her insta stories she is lipsyncing to emo songs which is the same thing that she was just making fun of per-pubescent kids for.
What is going on here? Twice now the posting has shifted back to Kelly and then all of a sudden someone comes in with a Dre photo trying to stir up more shit about her..
1) I smell a rat
2) if it somehow isn't Kelly or a WK trying to derail and point out how Dre is ~liek totally a bitch too~ , make a goddamn thread for her and stop shitting this one up! >>523313
Yikes that seems way too pointed to not be about Kelly. He's already shown he doesn't mind tossing shade her way via Twitter, and considering when that was posted - right as these threads have gotten going and Kelly was on about her "illnesses" - it seems really likely.
3) Kelly is being boring af right now and we're just rehashing shit that happened literally a year ago and there isn't much I can say about her 10 ~new~ shitty makeup tutorials in a row (that are just the same look over and over again with different colors).
If she ever stops entering a depression phase after every 3 videos and pumping out content like an actual professional YouTube creator (it's her only job), maybe there will be more milk.
It's desperate times right now, so we're reaching for friends, which is something that hasn't been talked about before but at least it's new.
Kelly just got face and body lipo and she's nonstop whining about it. I don't see that as being not Milky.
Plus the shit being brought up about Dre isn't even as it relates to her and Kelly. It's separate millk that should go in a Dre thread. If thisbmany people dislike her i reaaaally don't understand why people won't make her a thread…
Unless of course they're trying to detail the spotlight off of kelly..
It's not worth speculating on Kelly's surgery. We won't know what she did until we can actually see the results, then comment on it. I also don't really see cosmetic surgery as a super shitty thing to do. I mean, I would get a nice pair of tits with Patreon money if I had the resources.
I find Kelly's position of being a mental health advocate but treating her "Bipolar Disorder" as a personality quirk that makes her artistic rather than treating it like an actual serious lifelong illness that kills people with approx 50% of sufferers attempting suicide at least once much more problematic
than some liposuction.
Here is what I am thinking, people often accuse people of things they're doing themselves. I'm starting to think that you're a Dre fan, you're the one actually
doing the white knighting here. You're obviously new because you aren't even saging.
You're a Dre fan that feels that Kelly was mistreating Dre and you're butthurt about it and you think the best way to keep up Dre's appearances is come over here and talk about how mean Kelly is to Dre and how much better Dre is than Kelly.
Eh, try again. I'm the farthest thing from a Dre fan. She needs her own damn thread because she isn't little miss Perfect who happened to have to put up with Kelly's shit.
Who said that was speculation?
I think that anyone that follows the Kelly thread only follows Dre because of Kelly and don't know who the other altcows are.
Does anyone actually have an issue with the Fellowship being discussed here other than one Dre fan?
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idk kelly maybe it's all the narcotics you're taking from your elective surgery that you refuse to talk about except to mention how much pain you're in
Not trying to wk Kelly or anything but Dre is only relevent in part because of Kelly and the fellowship. If Dre gets more milky then that warrants a whole thread so we're not completely derailing.
I vote keep the Dre drama in this thread for now.
Cringe indeed. she cant even get a simple joke right.
Ironically this tweet highlights her personality, having vague knowledge of some pop culture phenomena and trying to use it to make herself look cool but exposing how mentally vacant she really is.
I have it and I quite liked it
Sage for nothing new imo
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Still absolutely sure Kelly lurks here.
Lina is creepy in her own right, but it seems like the numerous criticisms of Kelly ignoring her have not gone unnoticed.
If drama with Kelly is lacking and you think the next best thing is to talk about her former roommate that you find milky, then actually make another thread. The discussion of other members of the fellowship isn't nearly as intense or focused on one person's actions that are more recently not related to the original thread.
No one finds Stephanie of all people milky? She's not a fake fan of things and is a loyal friend to Kelly, but no one finds her bimbofication lifestyle questionable at all? Like https://www.reddit.com/r/bimbofication/comments/7v30jc/stephanie_michelle_then_and_now/
I'm not trying to slut or kinkshame, but that sounds like a scary power dynamic that involves surgery and an easily abusable amount of control. Before the images and her comments were deleted, she was pandering to users and encouraging other women to follow in her footsteps if they felt that it was right for them. And as soon as the comments stopped being positive, her contributions diasppeared. I find it more sad than anything because she seems like a strong and sweet person who deserves better than a partner that wants to train her to be as vapid and plastic as possible.
love stephanie, i have followed her since she was zilla308 and she made cute YT videos. over the past couple of years the “body-posi cosplay semi nudes” turned into her self posting to places like r/BoltedOnTits. i 100% agree with you that she deserves better, idk what kind of life she lives with her partner but seems kinda fucked up that he’s taking these photos of her https://www.reddit.com/user/omystephaniemichelle/
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Is this really her before and after? holy crap, WHHHYYYY?!
just read through the bimbofication subreddit a bit… I'm not sure if they're insane or pathetic. I don't care if I'm judgemental here. There's something wrong with these people.
The last woman I knew who was into that shit (among sundry other disgusting things) she wound up in jail alongside her 'owner' for CP, statuatory rape, bestiality etc. Cuz a good girl does whatever her man says, I guess.
Sorry. Totally off topic, but people like this/that sicken me. Obviously saged.
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>>524087>Stephanie seems easily manipulated.>It makes me think that he sees her more as a way to make money than an actual wife. Especially since they're married now and he gets half.
This is so true… She sure seems like his cash cow.
I feel bad for her because she really does seem sweet.
Oh my god, lmao.
Justin: Hey baby, the rent is due, why don't you put on that sexy cow bikini and give yourself a vagina wedgie for your thousands of neckbeard patrons.
Its really not uncommon for girls and guys to have the same interests in this community. There are tons of couples out there who are girl does pron/guy doesn't and vice versa and both are fine and their relationship is fine. They just don't do stuff you would call 'normal' to society. Steph was posting this stuff before him too anyway, so..
At this point should Kelly's claves have their own thread like how Moo's does? Kelly has just as many, if not more, of them.
>>523991>if you wanna talk about Dre make another thread!>let's talk about how problematic Stephanie is, though, that's totally fine
Come on, anon, now you're just being ridiculous. Why are you so insistent we shouldn't talk about a professional mallgoth who makes videos dedicated to making fun of children when you're down to discuss other Fellowship members? Starting to get suspicious.
Also, we do talk about other members of the Fellowship, including Stephanie? It's there in the other threads.
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This reddit post of hers makes it sound abusive.
Spending all her time looking pretty and pleasing her man. It makes her sound like a sex slave.
If it's just a kink, is Justin considered a cuck if he gets off by other guys getting off to his wife? That has to at least be cuck-lite.
It can't be just the pervy photog kink because you can do that without posting it out to everyone and having it as a full-time job.
Side note: WTF is this? Lmao VERY NSFWhttps://gfycat.com/VagueMassiveBlackbird
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Is it me, or does she look the same?
Right? That's what I'm saying, they're clearly a Dre fan. Their criticism of Dre is that she it not perfect but, is that really criticism? That applies to everyone.
They are also the only one complaining about the fellowship being discussed here.
Send the white knight out to pasture already.
Yeah, she looks the same. I guess that's what happens when you photoshop yourself to look the same every time (with a weird angle on top of it).
I guess we were naïve to think we'd ever see what her face actually looks like irl, even after cosmetic surgery. Maybe she will get lazy and post an unshopped video.
She also says "Don't hate me, I have to do sponsored posts today". It's like, that's fine as long as most of your content ISN'T sponsored (it is though) AND you follow the FTC guidelines and properly tag it with the appropriate tags. #ad #sponsored or #prsample.
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is this kellys attempt at "subtlety" addressing the fact she unfollowed dre again?
I'm pretty sure that has to be referring to Dre.
I wonder how they'll handle their friendship ending with the public. I feel like Dre will act like people have no right asking if they're still friends and Kelly will ignore/delete anything said about it.
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wonder who this is about
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The alley that you see them filming in in this video is right next to her house (you can see the pink chairs) goes to a garage unit and small parking lot behind the building.
It's a duplex style apartment building, but definitely has more than two units from the footage she's shown. Has to be 4-6.
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Dre's insta stories from today/yesterday:
1) Parking garage behind Kelly's
2) In her room at Kelly's house with wet hair/no makeup, means she showered there
3) Written angry note for parked car in Kelly's living room.
I think it's safe to say it's confirmed she's still living there.
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Are those compression stockings?
going by how thin she suddenly is, I think yr right.
what a sad, sad woman. pretends to advocate working out and eating right to fix your weight or body if you feel you need it. Gets surgeries and augmentations instead.
My kinda role model, that.
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Wow, shocker, I guess that Fit Tea doesn't work. Who would have guessed.
Well, I found out why Steph is a fucking angel and the most amazing friend to Dre and Kelly. Turns out she just loves cows. Also explains the multiple cow bikinis.
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Exactly my thoughts. It would already be bad enough if she wasn't an artist herself, but the fact that she is an artist makes it all the more infuriating.
And I feel bad for Steph, who defended Kelly and assured everyone that Kelly wasn't being an asshole, she was just asleep. Kelly has been awake and making posts all day, yet she ~apparently~ can't be assed to take 30 seconds to either credit the artist or just delete the tweet with the re-posted art.
Not only is it a slap in the face from one artist to another, but it's also a slap in the face to Steph who definitely stopped that tweet from creating more drama than it did.
What I don't get is why Kelly chooses this hill to die on. Why the hell is it so hard for her to credit the artist or just take the tweet down? Is she just that
lazy, or is she trying to be spiteful to the people who called her out?
Her fans are becoming more and more aware of her behavior, so this makes her terrible responses even more confusing to me. She can only hide behind "Sorry it's the mental illness" excuse for so long.
i bet that in the video about the surgery she will say she ain't lazy
and say shit about body dysphoria
we should do a bingo
This really isn't a bad painting, but it's nothing special/nothing more than a study. She did nothing to make the painting her own. Which is okay/what painting studies are for. Maybe one day she will actually use her creativity to manipulate the image on canvas. It annoys me how she was basically handed a tattoo license and doesn't even give a fuck and just threw it away. What a waste of time in regards to whoever spent two years on her (or however long apprenticeships take). I wish she would focus all her energy on her art she could probably be decent and less depressed.
Sage for art rant
It's not good, she made her look 15 years older.
I'd love if she could just stop shading with that black paint mixture, it just makes the painting look so muddy and dull. She said in the viedeo that she doesn't use black paint straight out of the tube to shade yet it still looks like she does… Her paintings would look so much nicer if she just could use another shading values. I know what I'm talking about btw.>>525895
Same thoughts, I wish she could put her creativity to good use into her paintings and add some of her own personal vision into them instead of just copying. Or maybe she doesn't have any of it, idk. Not a bad painting if you're into realism, but still nothing special.
The results are creepy. I understand now why she didn't want people knowing what she got done. Of course she was going to get backlash for being massively hypocritical. It looks like weight loss that could be achieved without surgery and with actual thought going into her nutrition and not just buying a meal plan that her gym is shilling. She probably also only had her specific trainer that she had to commute to as a referral to get the surgery after "not getting results" or some garbage. No wonder Dre wanted to distance herself with her own weight loss and cryptically mentioning that "Hollywood changes people"
She wants to claim to be a mental health advocate, but leads by example by not seeking treatment and instead getting a costly full body surgery that can ultimately worsen body dismorphia. AND making a sponsored video on the subject. All while trying to be relatable to a younger audience. She is gross on every level.
She doesn't deny it, she's straight up said her style is hyperrealism.
IMO she's a really good artist overall, but her faces come out kinda wonky and she generally doesn't put nearly as much detail into backgrounds compared to the person she's drawing. I think Kelly's work would be way better if she did more original pieces rather than copying photos.
And the thing is too, if an artist is talented they can do hyperrealism while also being creative and not copying a photo entirely.
Whenever this topic comes up I can't help but compare Kelly to the artist Euclase on tumblr (she's deleted it now but you can google her art). She did a lot of Supernatural hyperrealism while also making her paintings original and creative. Kelly WISHES she was half as talented tbh.
Yeah, I kept thinking the anons insisting it was lipo had to be wrong because she barely had any extra weight.
I think she's right about having body dysmorphia. Clearly she has some serious body image issues if she's gonna get lipo over like 20 extra pounds (at most).
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hm I wonder why
tbh she's just lazy & wants a supermodel body without working for it.
Probably missed doing photo shoots
I think I speak for the majority of us here when I say that we're all mostly in favor of her getting therapy & encourage her to do so
It's just sad that the people in her life aren't on the same boat. I feel like her circle of friends generally encourage her antics & self-destruction without giving much thought to it, or they're afraid of her shutting them out should they dare to say something that she's not in favor of.
The icing on the cake is she has a patreon too.
Hope her patrons will be happy that their hard earned money went to sucking the fat out of her stomach.
She really has no right to complain about her mental health anymore when she spends money on everything BUT her mental health. I hope people will start calling out her on this.
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Get ready you guys, a depression is coming lol
Don't give her ideas lol
Esp. after her tweets about wanting lingerie sets (which are usually $$$$ expensive)
She'll play the depression card to get people to send her stuff to cheer her up coughLinacough
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hey, Kelly. idk if this is you pretty much confirming that you lurk, but hope you stick to it
hope you also take responsibility for your plastic surgery NOT being a good solution to your internal struggles
Student loan debt can be a few thousand to hundreds of thousands of USD. You can put off paying your loans for a certain amount of time if you don't make enough money, but once you cross an income threshold you have to pay something like $50-a few hundred dollars a month. If her family is well off, she probably didn't have to take out her full tuition in loans. Is in all likelihood an inconvenience that she complains about because is gives her less money to buy…pink sugar? Pink microwaves? Final fantasy figures and ketchup?
If you have a decent amount of income, it's an annoyance, but not some crippling cost. It's more difficult for people just barely over the income threshold and not established in their careers, not so much for people who go on international shopping sprees.
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amazing Dre before and after makeup tutorial
Kelly as we know you lurk, please read these posts. A lot of fans/critical fans/ex fans are disappointed you got surgery to…lose weight when you could've achieved those results at home by reducing calories and exercising a little.
It's unnecessary and definitely a bad impression for your younger viewers. Nobody really cared too much about the boob job because you can't do that at home. This was unnecessary and also sends out a poor message to others.
Please at the least accompany this with efforts to eat better and exercise as otherwise it's just super disappointing
lmao I'm the anon that posted about Stephanie and haven't said anything about Dre since. More than one person can find your intense need to Dre derail annoying.>>526626>>526735
The only person who needs to chill is you. No one is saying don't talk about Dre. Just pointing out that it's annoying/suspicious to bring her up out of nowhere for not doing anything worth discussing.
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She looks rough.
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so I'm watching Kelly's Japan vlogs for the first time.
I've noticed that whenever someone else speaks she gets pissy. like if she's not speaking and getting attention all the time she gets annoyed.
You may want to get your eyes checked
I agree with >>527388
Oh, ffs. Kelly does not have body dsymorphia. Or at least not BDD that's been actually diagnosed. Anyone with a vague familiarity with BDD can tell you that.
Kelly has regular, boring, old insecurity and self-esteem issues, that are heightened by the fact she lives in L.A. where perfect physical appearances are a lot more important and can have an active impact on your livelihood than somewhere like Des Moines, Iowa.
But regular insecurity is not special or different or interesting enough for Kelly, and she can't milk those sweet, sweet mental health pity points with it.
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>>527388>very nice>appropriate to her age>implying she doesn't look like the actual Baba Yaga
lol sure jan
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At the tomb raider premier totally not using the “used only once” pink jacket on her depop
She really should have gone for the jaw shave…
At least it would be permanent. The lipo will last a few months tops with her eating habits.
This is what me annoys me about some of the farmers on here. Kelly has plenty of flaws to criticize but she is not ugly, masculine or fat.
Yeah, she looked better when she was 20lbs lighter but she's still not obese. She was a model and is lusted after for a reason.
In fact, I really used to enjoy her when she started YT but as time went on she developed this sense of entitlement, she stopped being honest in her reviews, almost everything became a shillpost and she stopped doing vlogs and just started doing unboxings and makeup tutorials.
I DO believe she has Bipolar Disorder, but I think it's Bipolar 2. However, I don't think she can call herself an advocate considering she has never been treated for it and still isn't being treated for it (a therapist is supplemental to addressing chemical imbalances with medication).
I do not believe she has Body Dysmorphic Disorder or even has any idea what it means. Thinking you're too fat and your tits are too small are probably the top two complaints that most women have about themselves. If she were going in for several jaw shaves in a row for a jaw that looks fine, then I'd believe it.
Her jaw is fine, y'all. A strong jaw makes a woman look sexy, not masculine. Anybody that complains about it probably looks like beaker from the fuckin muppets.
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Couldn't help noticing but what's going on with her mouth?? it looks like me when I had anesthesia put on my wisdom teeth removal surgery. It looks so crooked and weird :/
It never used to be this way. There were occasional appearance nitpicks, but once PULLfags and others started invading, the board culture has skewed more and more petty and annoying. I'm really sick of scrolling through seemingly endless nitpicks and blogposts in every thread.
Sage for OT ranting.
Assuming this isn't just a badly timed shot, it could be due to her lipo incision. I had lipo on my jaw line and I had platysmaplasty as well; one of the things the surgeon warned me was that my lips could end up temporarily wonky because apparently when you make an incision right under your chin, there are nerves that control your lip movement, so a bad incision could temporary damage these nerves and make you unable to move your lips correctly.
My lips moved like this for a week or so. My chin and neck area were numb for months, so it made my facial movements a bit weird.
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saged. shared on my facebook, claire did a diy sailor moon cosplay video. tbh it’d be nice to see videos like this from kelly in regards to cosplay rather than unboxing reviews of costumes.
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Hmmmmm Dre firing shots at Kelly… Kelly’s tweet is from 3/8, while Dre’s is from 3/13. Beautiful.
Why do the booze filled chocolates blow her mind so much? I mean, maybe you can't get them in the States, but in Canada, you've been able to get little chocolate shaped liquor boxes filled with the corresponding alcohol for… decades? A long time, anyways.
Simple minds, I guess.
Oh you can get them in the states. You can order them online, go to boutique candy stores, or even Russian grocery stores.
So yes, simple minds indeed…
It's a reach absolutely. It wouldn't be if she was "vaugeing" something about putting up with a lot of unnecessary shit from selfish people who refuse to help themselves - or anything related to Kelly.
Saying she had a good day isn't 'firing shots' just because she also happened to say it was a vague post.
I actually saw that earlier and thought that was quite mature and healthy of her and a lot of the online community could prob benefit from feeling like they "owe" or have to share every single detail of their lives. It's perfectly acceptable (and normal and healthy) to say "I'm really happy I had a great day" and choose not to give details so you can keep that experience for yourself.
I'm really no great Dre fan - she comes off as weirdly entitled and standoffish, but good for her on that one. Maybe Kelly should take a lesson.
Why on earth did she go to a premier in that fucking UGLY wig?
Is it the only wig she owns?! It looks so terrible, like cheap Claire's Accessories quality. Her own hair with extensions would of looked a million times better.
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I know, every time I see her wear that wig I cringe, that is one of the worst wigs that I have ever seen. The cut is really unflattering on her and those grey roots… why? Isn't the whole point of the wig to cover up her roots between dye jobs?
If she's going to be wearing a wig half of the time, she should probably invest in one really nice one instead of a bunch of crappy ones, OR pick a sustainable hair color, she could do a pink ombre at the ends.
Pretty girl, ugly wig. With her sharp jawline, it would really stand out and look amazing with a wig with at least half of the hair pulled back or a sharp angled bob.
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"hard work at the gym"
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I mean…..yeah we know. Nice to see her admit it for a change lol
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She literally looks like she’s somebody’s 40 yr old mom
What's up with her belly button, is that from the lipo? It looks huge and looks like it has some sort of awful jewelry in it? Or maybe what's in it is making it look stretched?
She looked fine without the photoshop except for the horrible outfit and wig but I'm really disappointed in her for getting lipo and then STILL shopping herself thinner.
Her depop jacket that's new, never been worn before. Perfect condition but missing a few studs.>>528173
No wonder she's not getting work anymore>>528182
Looks like a mugshot
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My GOD can you imagine getting lipo and going on about feeling like a THOT and photographing like this and still lying to your followers by photoshopping your body?
Like girl if you wanted to actually look like that shoop you coulda actually put effort into losing weight and toning up prior to the surgery….
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Side by side for comparison
Looks like she tilted the photo to make herself look taller. The torso lengthening really is something
her finger in the psed version has a blur at the edge of her leggings too. If you're going to ps at least do it well Kelly.
This is part of what made me stop being a Kelly Eden fan. I understand photoshopping a bad pimple out, or photoshopping the bags under your eyes, but this right here goes beyond simple editing to downright dishonest.
It would be different if she said "This is my ideal body goal", but no. She never does that. She puts up these super photoshopped images and never clarifies that she doesn't look anything like that.
Kelly claims to have body dysmorphia and hates how society pushes impossible beauty standards, yet here she is, contributing to the very problem and pushing an impossible beauty standard.
Exactly. Kelly is not an ugly person, but she always wears the cheapest and ugliest wigs. Even back when I was a casual fan of hers, I always hated how ugly her wigs are and never understood why she wore them… especially when she has access to her cosplay friends, who always wear much better wigs. I know she probably doesn't want to spend a lot on wigs, but there are plenty of cheap wigs out there that look good.
Regarding the lipo, I'm honestly surprised she went out trying to show off her body this soon after her procedure. While the major swelling will be down after the first week or so, you still have residual swelling and lumps/streaks that typically take months for the body to flush out.
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Funny now this comment is deleted 🤔
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kek her fans are delusional
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Dat wig and man face, ugh
I think she's covering up Lipo incisions with rhinestones/covering her pressure pants/lederhosen with the black pants
This is a "I just had lipo" outfit hence slight weirdness
Most Instagram people look completely
different on camera. Not ugly but always like a different person/different attitude/facial structure etc
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Saged but you're oblivious if you think the other fellowship members don't shop the hell out of their photos just like their ringleader. Katie/thedisneylandprincess is probably the worst offender aside from Kelly herself.
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Any milk about this post? What a shit trade for the girl honestly.
Yeah she definitely favors the blur tool. Even her hair will be blurred.
She’s not so much “plus size” irl…she isn’t “skinny” but she has massive boobs. Not implant-y. Just natural, big boobs. Those always make you look super heavy.
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Shane Dawson bought a mini kids "g wagon" for his dog as a joke because his friend Trisha Paytas has a pink g wagon and his boyfriend just bought a black one. Kelly's already trying to beg the "barbie car" off of him. Pretty sure in the video you can see that it cost like $300-400 so that's kinda tacky lol.
(Also dude, it's a gag toy for his actual dog. Calm your tits.)
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Hmmm if only you used your patron money to make these skits instead of using it on shopping sprees, expensive microwaves and plastic surgery…
I just want to know, how are they expensive? You have the makeup, wigs, cosplays, you film at your house, you edit them, etc etc what's so expensive?
And isn't her Patreon money exactly for that? This girl is ridiculous
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or idk..perhaps.. buy your own??
Ugh, I'm so sick of people in this thread hi kellying or assuming people are trying to wk Kelly every time any other member of the Fellowship is discussed.
They're probably the same ones that go on and on and on about OMG KELLY SO READS THIS YOU GUYS, DO YOU GUYS THINK SHE IS READING MY COMMENT RN. I'm not on here for Kelly's attention or Dre's praise, I'm here for gossip. These people are probably here because they couldn't get Kelly's attention with positive comments so they figured they would try acting out instead.
Katie is definitely the queen of photoshop. I saw her through Kelly and Dre's videos and went to her instagram to check out more of her and she was so photoshopped I didn't even bother following. I'm on instagram for photos, not digital paintings.
It's the same with Kelly though kek she photoshops herself so much that she doesn't look real, she looks like some weird wax figure
(psst digital paintings are also photos)
I've thought the exact same thing and have pointed it out in the past, but no one ever replied so I assumed I was alone.
Connie definitely comes off as lowkey snobbish toward Kelly, which is very different than how she normally acts on camera toward people. She's stated multiple times that she is extremely fond of Stephanie (has also said she's her favorite channel) so I think it's rooted on jealousy since Kelly is Stephanie's best friend.
Also, not that long pink hair is by any means original, but I couldn't help but notice she dyed her hair the exact same shade as Kelly pretty much immediately after her LA trip.
She's also ignored Kelly's enthusiasm about seeing her during her England trip and they didn't have any photos together besides one massive YouTuber dinner where they weren't even near each other. So yeah, I definitely think it's safe to say Connie doesn't like Kelly.
Agreed, she seems genuinely sweet.>>529153
Same but I don't think it's out of jealousy. I think she just has a good radar on shitty people
I agree. I definitely can't stand how she Photoshops herself to such an intense degree (she reminds me of those incredibly uncomfortable hyper airbrushed photos of pageant children) but I like her over all. She seems like she would be the most pleasant member of the fellowship to actually hang out with.
I get the vibe she's the least appreciated. Kelly doesn't seem nearly as enthusiastic about her as the other girls and Stephanie had her vlog at her wedding while everyone else was a bridesmaid. The worst part was when people were pointing out how that looked, Steph had the nerve to say "all my friends were included in some way! Katie vlogged!" Right, because holding the camera the entire time while the rest of you have fun must be such an honor.
>>529154>I think she just has a good radar on shitty people
I take it you don't read her thread? She's best friends with Riri who's so bad that she makes Kelly look like quality company.
Sage for different cow
Oh yeah, I agree Kelly's photoshopping is also ridiculous but if you think it's to the same extent that Katie does it you're crazy. Kelly still looks like Kelly in hers but taller, thinner and with clear skin.
I do hate that Kelly shops herself at all. Dre does it too (though to a lesser degree than Kelly) but then they say it's all body positivity and yayaya.
People love to call Stephanie fat and gross but that's just because she is the least shopped of the bunch.
On the shopping scale, Steph is like a 2 (mostly skin blurring blemishes, which almost everyone does and many phone camera apps do automatically), Dre is like a 4 but getting higher by the day, Kelly is like a 7 and Katie is a full 10.
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Agreed. I'll never forget these shops kek
They're all pretty in their own ways but they need to stop hawking the body positivity shit if they're gonna alter their bodies irl or in ps.
Most of them don't have any milk, it's really just Stephanie, Dre and Kelly.
The rest are fine imo, just unfortunate in who they have chosen to be friends with
Woooooow. Her nerve never ceases to amaze.>>529104
I've wondered this too. It seems like pretty much everything that would make it expensive are things you only need to purchase once. All I can think of is that she's paying a camera person and everyone acting in them. I feel if the fellowship is that close her friends would be willing to act for really cheap if not free?
what's this from? People keep mentioning the making fun of children but I don't recall it.
I'm so sick of the anons insistent Kelly DEFINITELY lurks and go "this confirms it!" any time she does anything. Hangs out with Steph like she does all the time? Confirms it! Addresses accusations in her video comments that she's not really bisexual? Confirms it! It's like they forget she has tons of people discussing her actions on her various social media platforms and the things we talk about here are covered there too 99% of the time. Not to mention how fucking dumb it is to assume she's hanging out with her best friend just because people on here are questioning their closeness. How self-important can you be???
I mean, I think she lurks here too, but I don't consider it a definite fact based on ridiculous stretches.
And the "hi Kelly" whenever anyone else in the fellowship is discussed really needs to stop. How exactly does bitching about other members magically mean Kelly is going to stop being discussed? That's stupid. Admittedly, I'm only in a handful of threads on this site, but none of the other threads I participate in mind at all if you discuss the cow's friends too, even when the OP doesn't explicitly allow for it like this one does.
I find the amount of whiteknightibg of some of her friends incredibly suspicious. Not the people talking about how they find Katie likeable, but the people getting weirdly defensive about Dre and saying we shouldn't talk about her. Especially given how one of them proceeded to bitch about Stephanie in the same post they were saying we shouldn't talk about Dre.
I suppose it could just be obnoxious AF anons, but it seems really fucking strange that anyone would be insisting we don't talk about Dre, especially when the OP calls for discussion of the Fellowship as well as Kelly.
Watch the video posted >>530266
She's literally talking about these issues and says a lot worse about guys than I do in my comment, maybe watch the video
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what was the point of this video?…a boy probably didn't text her back and she felt the need to cry to a camera.
whoever makes the next thread about Kelly should use this photo, or have her red carpet photos side by side next to each other
saged for useless chatter
the blatant script-reading is really awful.
also i'm sorry but this stuff she's talking about is something 99% of people deal with while dating, dude. why is she acting like it's some deep trauma to have a guy act aloof when you want to be bf/gf?? i'm baffled
Was she ever formally diagnosed as BP? I swear she acts just
like my dad and my brother, both who were diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.
They tried the therapy route, and while it did help them understand their illness, it did nothing to stop their manic episodes and the destruction that came with them. They resisted medication for years, and ruined a lot of relationships in the process. It was only with medication that they were able to get their shit together, which also made their therapy more effective.
Point is, I don't think Kelly will ever get better without medication. Therapy alone isn't enough when you've got a problem that is caused by chemical imbalances.
I don't think she was ever formally diagnosed, only self diagnosed (along with BDD, depression, anxiety, etc..)
But yea, she exudes BPD symptoms for sure
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her lips are fucked but at least if its temporary thats understandable. what i don't understand is how she somehow came out of this surgery looking even OLDER than before? she wasn't exactly youthful to begin with but jesus christ. now she looks like president coin from the hunger games.
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Don't think they're new. She just overexposes her face a lot in vids & this one wasn't so overexposedhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BfRQIb2hiOz/?taken-by=kellyeden
Borderline Personality Disorder has a lot of overlap with Bipolar Disorder, people with one often get misdiagnosed with the other.
Both need medication to be treated. Borderline Personality Disorder is there all the time whereas Bipolar comes and goes. This is why it's so hard to medicate people with Bipolar because they often think that they have it under control, they can go months being perfectly normal before something happens.
There are sort of three levels to Bipolar Disorder though so this is where it gets really confusing. Bipolar Disorder tends to have longer periods of mania, normal and depression that can last weeks or months and the mania is a full mania. It includes illusions of grandeur, lots of impulsive and irrational behavior and putting yourself in risky situations, you get very little sleep and can go days without it.
Bipolar 2 has shorter cycling, doesn't tend to last months and the mania is a hypomania where you just feel like your best self, lowered inhibitions, lots of energy, you get less sleep but you still sleep.
Now there is one below that that is Cyclothymia, this is rapid cycling, your phases last only a few days and you might never have a "normal" phase, you just flip flop between mania and depression like it's on a switch. This has the hypomania which I believe is the type of mania that Kelly describes where she's very artistic and productive but she isn't out being promiscuous, doing drugs or staying up 3 days in a row.
My best guess without being a psychiatrist and having a very limited view of the situation is that she either has Cyclothymia or Borderline Personality Disorder. I think the best way to tell which is which without being formally diagnosed is whether her mania or depression is brought on by a specific event or relationship issue (Borderline Personality Disorder) or whether it happens purely based on a chemical imbalance, seemingly randomly (Bipolar Disorder).
Sorry for the novel, hopefully somebody found it helpful.
anyone find it weird that she mostly posts pictures of toshi when he was a puppy? once toshi grew up out of his puppy phase the photos and videos around him slowed down.
guess he wasn't a cute little accessory anymore once he got bigger.
BPD isn't always treated with medication. It can be treated with therapy (particularly DBT) and, if Kelly is Borderline, she's on the right track to recovery, now.
I don't understand why so many anons are obsessed with the idea that she needs to be medicated to get better. If she is bipolar, then yes. If Borderline, then no. I personally believe she is the latter, and truly I wish she would just get a diagnosis and then learn how to manage her emotions instead of being a dramatic mess.
I mean, schizophrenia isn't always treated with medication either but it doesn't mean that you don't need it to be properly treated.
Borderline requires therapy, you can't manage it based on medication alone but medication REALLY helps and there are so many medications out there now that have such a low risk of side effects.
That being said, she has a history of trauma, living in a broken home and having several unhealthy relationships with men in her life and that is going to require therapy.
Anecdotal but, the only type of therapy that has ever helped me(anxiety/depression/history of abuse)is cognitive-behavioral therapy but I don't find it to be even 10% as effective as simply taking an SSRI everyday before bed.
I think therapy is a good thing, I just don't think doing only
therapy is going to be enough. Like I said, my dad and brother were only able to get their shit together once they started adding medication. And it didn't just help get their lives back on track, it made their regular therapy sessions much more effective too.
Besides, she's been in and out of therapy already and it obviously isn't working. At this point it wouldn't hurt to give it a try.
I didn't even finish it, I was just like WOW, making fun of children that like emo and lip syncing to it (she has done multiple insta stories of her lip syncing to emo just as badly), so ~E.D.G.Y~.
I didn't get the blinds either, is it because they are throwing shade? But shades and blinds are different things, so that doesn't make sense either. I have no idea who Frank is?
I mean, make fun of as many adults as you want but then you can't get triggered
over people asking you if you're dating someone. Dre gets triggered
over EVERYTHING so I find it hilarious that she can treat people like this but have such high standards for the way that people treat her.
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CrankthatFrank is the one with the girlfriend that has the saggy earginas.
always wanted to stretch my lobes when i was younger… now i'm glad i never did. i almost split my tongue when i was 18/19 as well.
i maybe got pierced 35+ times, but i avoided being permanantly disfigured, at least.(blogposting)
I almost stopped watching because I noticed how long it was. But then I got to the part where she forces tears over her brother being nice to her for a bike and I'm legit cackling she's sooooo fake. Good lort.
Every relationship is exciting and passionate at the beginning because it's exciting. Duh, Kelly.
Also leaving is the hardest part for you because you have BPD, you moron.
Those statements of the right person coming along when the time is right or when you stop looking aren't Hallmark responses, they're damn true.
This is the dumbest video ever. She's so extra and dramatic. Everyone has breakups. Big deal. Learn and move on.
Samefag *because it's new.
That'll teach me to post when I'm tired. Ugh.
I don’t see this as really a Dre thing, the idea, jokes and video are all his stuff. She isn’t even that mean and seems too nice to roast.
1. Videos are complied by fans for Frank to watch
2. Inside jokes like the blinds comes from previous videos of this series where he gets so upset by the cringe he would break some of his stuff (that was already broken) and make kms jokes with the blinds
3. Frank did use the app himself so it is a joke on his own cringey past self, and the emo culture
4. A lot of the ppl featured are likely fans since they make inside jokes with what they do.
It’s an embarrassing video but I don’t think there is much to hate from Dre who clearly was just there as an excuse to hang out with a friend.
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"HEY GUYS GO HOUND THIS PERSON FOR ME UNTIL THEY AGREE TO DO WHATEVER I WANT!"
She did this with the voice actor for Vegeta too
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Except she’s gotten multiple plastic surgeries and other work done to meet these expectations?????
Wow!! She does not have the stomach for a crop top. >>528175
I think those shoes are from YRU or some other similar brand. They're ugly as hell ballet flats with straps that make your ankles and calves look chunky. That entire outfit is beyond unflattering for her body type.
She's one of those people who think that wearing heavy eyeliner and a few black and "edgy" fashion pieces make you goth
Alternative sure.. but goth? Not even close, Kelly.
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Wow thanks for sharing. They are both pretty bad in this imo, but I wasn't expecting Dre to be like this. They are just kids. We were all cringe as teens.
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I think that’s the hole they sucked the fat out of.
where in the snaps did she shoop her body? please show us an analysis, I'm curious lol.
as for Kelly's arms, she needs to do sculpting exercises to build arm muscles and make them look toned and firm. People cannot lose weight in their arms or legs by targeting a spot.. That's not how exercise works. Just keep working out and hope for the best. Saged.
I like how she shopped herself a gigantic thigh gap. What a role model.
I was still holding out hope that one day she'd get treated (for mental health) and we'd have to old Kelly back but everything she has done in the past month has shown she's charging full speed in the opposite direction.
I don't even care that she got lipo, it's a stupid financial decision but jesus christ, stop shopping your kid fans into an ED. Your stomach is already flat, do you really have to shop your waist in several inches as well?
She comes out with this video where she emulates pouring her heart out to her viewers, but it's scripted, she talks in a baby voice and fake cries. I believe the things that she said but the true emotion came out when she wrote the script, the video was just a poor reenactment.
We have enough photoshopped instagram bimbos shilling products from scam companies. If that's what she's going for, she's never going to be the best at it and she's going to alienate her remaining original audience.
What we need is someone brave, unashamed, honest and relateable. I thought that was what she was at first but I guess I was wrong about her, what a disappointment. She needs to get out of Hollywood before she becomes Trisha Paytas.
If she was smart, she'd get the lipo video out ASAP instead of letting her poor fans continue to make themselves look like idiots defending her and saying it's the gym. They're going to be really disappointed and feel foolish the longer she waits and the more that they jump to her rescue.
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This lady gives her 100 bucks a month and kelly can't even send out her stuff. So gross but not surprising.
Not that anon, but the lipo really isn't that milky, y'all are just thirsty AF. Yeah, it's obnoxious that she made a big deal about working out then got lipo, but that's not anything worth nearly this much discussion about.
Honestly, the cow is dry and it's time we accept it. The only things Kelly has done worthy of posting her here are the AP drama (which by now is ancient news) and her Patreon scamming/shitty seller reputation. Other than that, she's just an annoying girl with nothing really discussion worthy about her. That's why the majority of her threads are nitpicks and infighting.
Don't forget >making fun of cringey kids is a whole YouTube trend!
So, your defense is that she hopped on a trend made huge by people like RiceGum, who is the most /pt/ worthy piece of shit YouTuber in all of existence. lmfao
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That set costs over $1,000.00 smh …
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i mean tbh she's not a cow. she's in snow for a reason. she's a snowflake. she's like…the perfect definition of a snowflake. her recent video about love proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt
frankly if anyone wants to go in hard on kelly drama, we should legit focus on her society6. people lost their shit over simplykenna tracing designs and MENTIONING that she might ONE DAY sell merch, but kelly didnt even trace her designs, but 100% janked them, and is selling them right now. some of her stolen shit is even fanart. she's probably making hundreds of dollars each month, judging from my own experience with my s6 shop. it's actually pretty fucked up.
she needs the money to get cosmetic surgery, japan trips, hella expensive lego sets and lingerie (she got some creepyeha stuff and that shit is not cheap) so of course she's gonna make her friends pay for her whims>>531883
i agree, she's a fucking art thief
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I don't really care enough to do anything about it, but I found the original art, it's by Archaedia Studios and they sell their own merch. So if anyone wants it, have at it, they have contact info on their site.http://archaedia.storenvy.com/
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poor sad fools
No, anon, the lipo IS milky because:
A. She's always complaining that she's poor (but muh student debt doe)
B. Is raking in money from Patreon and not delivering on what her page promises.
C. Is most likely using that $$ for her elective surgeries
D. And is dodging it and letting her stupid fucking followers believe it's the gym and her diet.
Are we positive that she is paying her student debt? The Youtube/Patreon/Sponsor money must be a nightmare to claim on taxes and you could easily not claim it all and apply for an IBR and even get payments due low as $0 a month while the interest accrues. Then after 25 years, your loan is forgiven and you didn't have to pay a dime for it.
No way to prove that of course, that's really grasping at straws but I have always wondered how influencers do their taxes.
I do not care if Kelly wants to get lipo; it is her body, and she can do what she wants with it. What makes me lose respect and ultimately caused me to unsubscribe from Kelly is the fact that she purposely lies and misleads her viewers about how she looks. Kelly promotes body positivity and has spoken about her 'body dysmorphia', and yet she photoshops herself with perfect skin and an impossible figure.
I could forgive the extreme photoshopping when it came to her fashion/editorial shoots, but once I learned that she did the same thing with her ""candid"" shots, I could not stand watching her anymore. It is actually pretty frustrating to read so many comments praising her ""hard word"" and looking up to her for #bodygoals, when they have no idea that Kelly's photoshopped version is literally unattainable. The saddest comments come from her fans lamenting about the fact that they have been working out and eating well yet they are not seeing the same results that Kelly is. Thank god Instagram and Kelly weren't around when I was a teenager, because I know I would have fallen for their lies too.
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Shaaaaaade. She knows she's not being subtle.
dre: posts about how she hates fruit loops or whatever
everyone here: CONFIRMED SHES VAUGING KELLY FROOT LOOPS ARE RAINBOW AND KELLY OWNS RAINBOW EXTENSTIONS ITS PROOF SHES THROWING SHADE