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Over-The-Top Spoonies/Munchausen By Internet Attention Whores General #8
Previous Thread:
>>362479Discuss people who feign or exaggerate chronic illnesses and medical crises for attention and asspats online. Previous topic focused primarily on Instagram accounts, but posts from blogs and other social media sites are admissible.
Most recent active IG cows:
Eli, aka folie_a_you
kelly.ronahan; me_and_the_mr (has her own thread
>>359452 ).
hypermobileguy
chronically_jacquie
MyBlondeVoyage
onemorestep2
endlessvoices
The Munchie Queen of all time is Robyn Brown, who has her own threads (original:
>>197138 ). Sadly she is now incognito.
What Is A "Spoonie"?
People who identify as 'Spoonies' are referencing 'The Spoon Theory,' written by a woman with lupus to explain the chronic illness experience to a healthy friend who asked her what it really feels like to live with her medical problems.
https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/The 'Spoonie' Community is, in general, a legitimate supportive network for people dealing with chronic illness. In recent years, however, it has become polluted with SJW types and has attracted a new breed of attention-seeking catfish: people who lie about, fake having, and/or exaggerate existing medical problems and crises for no benefit other than to garner attention.
What Is Munchausen By Internet (MBI)?
From Dr. Marc Feldman, an expert in factitious disorders including Munchausen Syndrome, first described Munchausen By Internet in 2000:
"…the advent of online support groups, combined with access to vast stores of medical information, enabled individuals seeking to gain sympathy by relating a series of harrowing medical or psychological problems that defy comprehension to misuse the groups.[1] Communication forums specializing in medical or psychological recovery were established to give lay users support in navigating often confusing and frustrating medical processes and bureaucracy. Communities often formed on those forums, with the goal of sharing information to help other members. Medical websites also became common, giving lay users access to literature in a way that was accessible to those without specific medical training. As Internet communication grew in popularity, users began to forgo the doctors and hospitals often consulted for medical advice. Frequenting virtual communities that have experience with a medical problem, Feldman notes, is easier than going through the physical pain or illness that would be necessary before visiting a doctor to get the attention sought. By pretending to be gravely ill, Internet users can gain sympathy from a group whose sole reason for existence is support. Health care professionals, with their limited time, greater medical knowledge, and tendency to be more skeptical in their diagnoses, may be less likely to provide that support."
LINKS to articles and info on MBI:
https://www.munchausen.com (Dr. Feldman's website)
https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-lying-disease/Content?oid=15337239https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/munchausen-by-internet-what-drives-people-to-fake-an-illness/7631990https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/29/jules-gibson-munchausen-by-internet-sickness-bloggers-fake-it-whole-pantryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_by_Internet#Characteristics No. 372055
>>372053I'm curious whether she realizes that if she does force them to put in a tube, it's really because of deliberate starvation (mild ED behavior), not any real medical need at all. Is she aware of what she's doing? Does she know that it's a totally pointless intervention but she's dug herself in so deep that now she's going to starve till she gets it?
She is sick. But not in the way she wants to be.
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Jaquie's BFF is throwing an absolute shit fit over being turned away from a restaurant.
No. 372144
>>372142I've only really noticed it from this one, and Carmel.
Sage for non-con.
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I forgot to highlight "to life a incurable life". After reading this it's kinda obvious why she doesn't have any friends left.
Suddenly she has EDS, even though no one diagnosed this.
She keeps deleting her comments, so I guess someone keeps questioning her? At least I hope so, because she has so many followers and all she does is diagnosing herself and spreading lies to get pity points.
No. 372206
>>372196Thought the same. No RA deformity!
Note to all you IG selfie addicts - PLEASE clean your fingernails before posting pics!! (And shave your knuckles if you time ? )
No. 372207
>>372164Ooooh she makes me seethe. Endometriosis doesn't cause tumours, there is a slightly higher risk of ovarian cancer, but you're more likely to get cancer from pretty much any other factor before endometriosis. And if her endometriosis was that severe, she'd have had surgery.
Sage for rage
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This cow just gets to me. Look at her smug, happy hospital face. Doesn't look sick to me…..
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>>372218Oh and you've been in hospital TWELVE days, had many tests, they still can't actually find anything wrong with you, get the hint?!
No. 372241
>>372126Not white knighting because let's be honest she's probably at least an ott spoonie who has ignored call outs about Jacquie's bullshit and people wanting answers on how she's okay with Jacquie's unethical service dog crap people asking for stupid id's for service dogs is a legit problem. In America those kind of things are fake and most of the fakers are the ones who buy them and shove them in the face of anyone when their dog is misbehaving in public. Which causes a big issue for us with an actual service dog for an actual reason.
Sage for SD fagging
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>>372241I know you're making an effort anon but please read:
>Sageing a post>By writing "sage" in the email field, you keep your comment from bumping a thread to the top. Do this when your comment doesn't contribute any new information. You don't need to announce or mention your sage. Users will be able to tell by hovering over your Name ('Anonymous'). Note: Sageing a post doesn't make wildly off-topic comments okay. You still have to follow posting rules.and everything else at
https://lolcow.farm/info No. 372308
>>372300going through her instagram to the beginning, she seems pretty normal. then a a couple months break and all of a sudden mega health problems right after high school or something. just a big attention grab imo like the bulk of the others
eating disorder behaviors could lead to a host of complications so it makes complete sense that a lot of these munchies are more than willing to starve themselves or make themselves puke if the end result is that they get medical devices or procedures for super asspats.
No. 372320
>>372125True story: I was involved in the development of an IVIG product (technically SQIG, but hey) whose name rhymes "ay, Stevia!". The thing is, IVIG seems to have the odd and more or less unique property (the only thing I can think of that has a similar effect but more limited is cyclosporine) of improving autoimmune illnesses while not suppressing the immune system. What's more, they confer a degree of immunity itself (they are after all immunoglobulins!) although they retard the body's own ability to create certain immune responses (which is why live vaccines don't take while being on IVIG). This is a paradoxical and not very well understood scenario and the calculation insurers make is that in the severely chronically ill patient, a bottle of $18,000 IVIG might be preferable from both a public health perspective (less use of antibiotics of last resort) and a cost perspective (lower cost of treatment overall - treating sepsis, especially with the newer antibiotics that are either toxic or cost an arm and a leg, is very expensive, and might include the exorbitant costs of an ICU stay). As the US did not have vCJD (mad human version aka spongiform encephalopathy in humans transmitted by notoriously tough to screen for prions), the risk to the individual patient is lower (but still pretty considerable - the headaches are legendary and there are various risks including cytokine storms). Hence their more extensive use. The pharmaceutical co response is to essentially present the hypothesis that every autoimmune disease is also an immune deficiency (that is, its more about immune dysregulation that is compensated with IVIG than a mere immune hyperactivity), which so far is not sufficiently accepted to justify blanket prescribing of IVIG in autoimmune illness, but I have seen doctors prescribe it off label for just about everything. Teal deer: it's because pushy patients + pharma reps.
Sage for medfagging and blogging.
No. 372323
>>372307What, that does not make any fucking sense. I can drown you in vancomycin and we will still be able to culture whatever you have.
She has a bad headache from IVIG. As said, IVIG headaches are nasty as fuck.
No. 372357
>>372307She just wants the drama of it possibly being the form of meningitis that can be devastating. She's going to milk this as a near death experience. She's going to get on television again, and say her story and everyone is going to give her all the sympathy and attention she wants.
She fucking brought this on herself. She always claims that super severe debilitating migraines, well now she has a headache from hell.
No. 372441
>>372415It always feels like she's incredibly rehearsed, like she's said it five times. Her Dad had a stroke last year and can't drive, he also lives in Orlando. Everytime they're go up there they visit him.
>>372412Wouldn't put it past her, she does scratch herself to make the angiodema attacks look worse/like they actually happen.
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Posing that fashionable bracelet for the camera
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>>372480Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
No. 372550
>>372480That is something that I find infuriating. When I ruptured my disc I was as pale as a ghost, I did not look like I'd just taken a nice refreshing nap.
I also would take pain meds and knock out, not lay there and vlog.
Sage for blogging.
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She looks thinner in this picture from 2015 than she did before her feeding tube.
No. 372599
>>372596Yeah she probably does have an ED of some kind.
>>372480 Yeah she doesn't have that look like shit sick look that you sure as hell would have if you had some kind of meningitis
No. 372610
>>372309>>372507She's really ruining those teeth with inducing all that vomiting. She needs to stop or she'll rot them out.
Sage for Medfagging
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I'm sure it also has something to do with the fact that pain medicines fuck with your GI system
No. 372704
>>372673Why yes, my whole life consists of making sure my patients ARE psychosomatising and avoiding having to look for an organic cause.
What the fuck, Carmel. Never mind your doc can't bill for a fraction of what he could for investigating organic causes - your constant banging on the 'it's not psychiatric!' drum makes it sound like you are in denial about the psychosomatic and psychiatric causes and contributing factors to your illness. Normal people want to get better, whether that's by way of surgery or medicine or therapy or an antidepressant. Munchies want the most fashionable, most 'I am totally not eating disordered despite my array of mental health issues… I swear, despite having a long list of them, my insistence on a tube to purge from is totally not an ED!' diagnosis that makes them feel like they're in a hospital drama.
Fuck. Right. Off.
No, seriously. Get the fuck out and stop blocking a bed that could be taken up by someone actually interested in getting better, not just in having the most fashionable diagnosis.
No. 372705
>>372698I know teens that have been put on pain meds bc they legitimately need it. No doctor is going to deny pain meds bc a patient is "too young". Carmel is just another lying munchie who doesn't have her doctors quite fooled.
Sage for not contributing.
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Alexys is still seeking her paediatrician kek.
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Desperate for toobz.
No. 372715
>>372706Actually this is my experience. "Too young" for opiates for pain relief, at 27 apparently.
I understand why doctors are worried about long term use of painkillers, but you have to weigh that up against life-ruining chronic pain.
Saged for medblog.
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The beanie is back and she's got the munchie mask.
No. 372717
>>372705She's too young for pain relief? Well, shit. Turns out my wife has been doing this whole medicine thing all wrong - as a paediatrician, she prescribes strong painkillers, including opioids, to people of all ages if they need it.
But hey, it may be different in Australia, so I just asked a former colleague who now practices in Sydney, working as a pediatric trauma surgeon. The full WHO scale is available to both adults and children, and is used in the same way as in the UK.
What the fuck, Carmel. What do you think happens to actually sick children - preteens dying of brain tumours with massive IICP and kids having osteosarcoma or survivors of horrible accidents or burns victims or, yes, young people with chronic pain or CRPS? "Nah, sorry, we can't give you opioids, you're too young, sorry you're dying"? What sort of fucking idiot believes her bullshit? There are even specialist pediatric and adolescent pain therapists and pain management experts. Besides, there are other non-opioid methods of dealing with pain, and if your doctors refused to give you drugs because of your age but were genuinely in pain, they would try those: targeted anaesthetics, dissociatives, midazolam for certain forms of chronic pain, musculoskeletal meds and an overwhelming array of interventions to manage pain, up to and including ablation.
I wish their lies weren't this contrived and ridiculous. Actually unwell people are getting the wrong idea.
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She probably cried sad tears when they told her she's going home.
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No. 372728
>>372712Not even just any port, a power port!
(The fucking moron does not even understand what that is. A power port means its power injectable. That is relevant for one single use, and no other: the injection, at relatively high pressure, of contrast media for CT. What she wants is a regular portacath, but she can't even get her bullshit right.)
No. 372731
>>372726She conquered a medication that has side effects, you guize!
I have seen all of 2 (two) persons who were admitted for post-IVIG aseptic meningitis (which most of us call a 'bad headache' - as a doctor and a regular recipient of the fucking thing, I can tell you with confidence that if you've had migraines, you've had worse than what a bad IVIG headache is like!) - one went home the same evening, the other, a teenage girl with a severe immune dysfunction, the next morning. Four days for a headache after IVIG? Fuck me dead.
Q: has she explained what her mysterious immune dysfunctoin is? There aren't that many of those, and they're all usually diagnosed either by specific testing or genetics. You don't just have 'immune dysfunction' anymore than you would be diagnosed with 'autoimmune disease'.
No. 372751
>>372723A coworker of mine (I have his permission) has wasted almost five years of his life living with a Munchie much like Jaqui, who used him being a doctor as a card to get all the Munchie toys that a Munchie's heart could desire: tubes and a port and an SPC and multiple spinal fusions and a wheelchair and everything. My buddy is a little naive and his heart is a little bigger than his brains (when it comes to human relatoinships, anyway!), and he has a bit of a savior complex. So he thought he will be the one that gets her well, while she used him for all the toys. We staged an 'intervention" on my buddy when we had incontrovertible evidence that a medical crisis that necessitated him taking weeks off work from time to time, a job he enjoys thoroughly, was fabricated by her, to get, of all things, a fucking pacemaker (why?!).
He eventually dumped her, but ended up taking a two year absence from medicine, traveling and volunteering and doing the cool things they could never do because life revolved around her latest medical crisis, her health blog, her assistance dog and her ever increasing needs. He described the whole thing like being sucked dry emotionally. He's still in therapy and he still has problems trusting people.
The problem with Munchies isn't primarily that they're faking assholes who block hospital beds and waste precious resources and time. The problem is, they lock people who care for them into intensely captivating emotional relationships, with the constant subtle hint of deteriorations when their partner considers leaving them or even just wants something resembling a life of their own for a few hours. Munchies are not harmless sick people LARPers, and I don't think I understood until I saw what happened to my friend what insidious damage these people can inflict.
I really feel for Judd - he must see himself as a person devoted to the lives of others, that much is clear from his career choices. And with a worthy goal, that's superb. But Jaqui doesn't even appreciate him, and there's only so long you can drive a relationship on making dinner. He lives with the constant fear of her coming to harm - that's a voluntary decision, but in face of a completely exaggerated, manifestly fake 'illness', this is just too sad to watch. And of course he can't get out of this relationship because what kind of man abandons a poor sick girl and leaves her to her own devices (no pun intended).
Sage for blogging and story time.
No. 372759
>>372751
>The problem with Munchies isn't primarily that they're faking assholes who block hospital beds and waste precious resources and time.Maybe not for you they're not. Yes there is almost always some kind of intensely personalized spiral of destruction for one person in a munchie's life, and sometimes the cost of a highly competent, resourceful person being burned out is one of the prices that come from being associated with a munchie.
And as much as I feel for your friend, he wasn't relying on, say, the time slot of the procedure that got the munchie her pacemaker. Imagine someone actually desperately in need of that pacemaker getting their procedure delayed because of the munchie– in fact, imagine all of the patients afterward that the surgeon and the rest of the staff needs to see. She impacts all of those patients, because she's sucked up yet more time, resources, money, and effort that she didn't need.
Yes, your friend was the center of the black hole of that munchie's vortex of need, but she managed to suck in countless peripheral people on her way there.
Sage because I've spent enough time in doctor's offices waiting for the overly-invested, perfectly healthy attention seeking dipshits to finish sucking up my appointment time to know how much they impact the lives of seemingly random patients.
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Why do all spoonies have nearly the exact same ailments. At least try to be original in your faking.
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Munchie starter pack
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Scans looked like 3 people in the scanner but doctor insists I'm ok
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I love how munchie Nicole claims "anaphylaxis" as an illness. She has FOOD allergies which may have led to anaphylaxis, and also using a wish granting company for fucking asthma and allergies?! Neither of those are warrant a god damn wish!! Way to steal a wish from a kid who's actually going to die you attention seeking munchie bitch.
No. 372864
>>372708Guess she is finally admitting to an eating disorder - wonder if someone questioned her.
>>372712Has she given up on her epilepsy? And I see she is back to "my poor failing organs". She is overly specific in some areas and then overly vague in others - guess she can't research it all and is worried about being caught in a lie
Maybe she ends up in the ER 4x/week because she is full of baloney - not actually sick enough to be admitted and they probably just give her a bag of saline to get her to go away. If she truly needed what she said then she would be able to get an appointment and not waste ER resources (cause you know the ER is for people who have real emergencies).
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Surprisingly Dani didn't say she would research the possibility of an EDS diagnosis when some commenter mentioned it (why do the spoonies all seem to think that everyone has EDS)
She has been mentioning uping her pain/nausea meds recently - I don't know much about the effect meds have on the GI system but have have read this board long enough to know that it's not great - my bets is she is trying to do whatever she can to get the results she wants for her upcoming tests
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Was going back and looking at old posts. She is 100% thinner here than she was before her tube, but she was fine.
No. 372931
>>372865EDS can definitely complicate life and make you feel bad, but unless you have vEDS (which is very rare), you can still lead a fairly normal life. And all those things the munchies get, the braces and wheelchairs and what not, are not even good for most EDSers. A good doctor who's seeing someone just diagnosed is going to tell them to get rid of all that. Cystic fibrosis will
definitely kill you, yet that Frey girl is trying to live a normal life. Jacquie is trying to create a life out of malingering and mooching off of people. She can walk and eat and do things herself, she just chooses not to. She's getting away with it now, but it's not going to be so cute when she's 30 and 40.
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So, turns out she doesn't have a EDS diagnosis from the doctors that would matter.
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Post from 2016.
Even the fucking doctor thinks that having stretchy skin and being flexible means EDS.
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Her diagnosis list from a year ago is incredibly different.
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2016.
She used to have abs.
No. 373051
>>373028It's become creepily common to pathologies everything. Nobody is flexible anymore they have EDS, they don't have mild hypotension they have POTs, they aren't sleepy they have chronic fatigue.
It's like people willingly trade in their personality for a diagnosis and give up their life for a microcosm of symptoms and complaints. All their hobbies are replaces with researching diseases and medical equipment and wasting doctors time by documenting every breath of the experience. They cut ties with anyone who won't push their unnecessary wheelchair and treat a hospital ward like a resort or hotel.
I just don't understand how so many hundreds of people have latched on to this particularly shitty trend. Surely it can't just be because they get their asses licked by a few dumbasses.
No. 373074
>>372788What the shit.
I've seen a lot of weird things, including people getting an MRI done while having sex (because art project and as MRIs don't involve radiation, some imaging providers are going to go along with a lot more than what is strictly medically necessary), but I don't understand. What is she on about when she's talking about her scans looking like there are three people in there?! I am trying to figure out what imaging artifact this idiot is trying to describe but coming up empty.
No. 373077
>>373074My biggest question is what kind of MRI machine has enough space for two people to have sex in??? Wow
sage for off topic and being dense
No. 373082
>>373077A regular one. MRI scanners are more spacious than they feel like. And if the Dutch intracoital MR imaging study could pull it off in the notoriously tight Gyroscan 15, a 1.5T normal MRI scanner, then I'm pretty sure everything is possible :)
Reference:
http://www.bmj.com/content/319/7225/1596 No. 373107
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>>373082Ahhh wow you learn something new every day.
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Nuuns are not pills, they're electrolyte tablets that can be bought at any sports equipment store. They're meant to be mixed with water. What even. This is what it looks like when you're trying too hard to be a sooper spoonie
No. 373188
>>373183Ahem, that'd be an Erlenmeyer flask, not a beaker. /s chemfag
Fuckin spoonies.
No. 373216
>>373201A lot of (genuine) diagnosis especially for girls seems to come in the teen years when puberty hits and symptoms and problems present in childhood worsen enough to seek out a reason why.
No matter the age, it is a genetic diagnosis, always, but half these 'eds' spoonies probably have a JHS/HSD diagnosis from a rheumatologist who wanted them to shut up and go away, and think it's the same thing (spoiler alert kiddos: it's not).
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Carmel is upset that they can't find anything wrong with her and she's going home.
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>>373217She's upset about lack of tube.
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No. 373238
>>373232I agree there's no need to show them off but I think heaps of people, especially young women, would enjoy a prettied-up pad for their protruding intestine and bag o' turds.
There's plenty of milky shit than munchies do, a few girls with a cute sticker for their stoma seems kinda petty.
No. 373251
>>373244anything else you want to share from your diary?
ps learn2sage
No. 373256
>>373183Seriously claiming nuun as a pill? Yeah it comes with a tablet but it certainly isn't a medication - they sell it at every sports store, health food store, and even target. Its an electrolyte drink that lots of runners use (because it doesn't have a crap ton of sugar like gatorade).
Also they need to learn what "crushed" pill really means - breaking a tablet in half so that it fits in your "beaker" doesn't meet the definition
Sage for ranting as a regular nuun consumer who has never thought of it as a medication (introduced to it through running, used mostly by runners) and now for blogposting
No. 373261
>>373217"If anything I'm worse"
Pretty understandable given you've just been hanging out at a hospital you don't need to be in…
ALSO they're probably sending her home because she just did that food trial and they saw that nothing too out of the norm happened. She chewed the food, she swallowed the food, and life went on.
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Another vaccine injury. RIP.
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"Spoonie squares" anyone?
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Omg check out all this spoonie talk
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Quick munchies, this is the new spoonie style - swap out your vog masks today!
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Lol wut?
No. 373291
>>373281It's genetic and non deteriorative so there's no reason why symptoms should only appear later. As
>>373288 says under 16 is about right.
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>>373276She also has a vog mask lol
No. 373301
>>373291it does appear to worsen at/around the onset of puberty in a lot of people due to hormones affecting laxity in connective tissue for females.
It's unusual for no doctor to have suspected it - at the very least - by 16, if not fully diagnosed it or made referrals for testing and diagnosis.
No. 373302
>>373301Thanks - forgot that bit about puberty. Basically within a few years of hitting puberty symptoms should peak, so people claiming they became symptomatic later probably don't have it.
Pots on the other hand can be
triggered at any point, viral infections etc. But suddenly developing pots does not equal a missed eds diagnosis
No. 373308
>>373301It can also worsen after pregnancy and many women don't get diagnosed until their 40's here.
It is common here to get a JHS diagnosis in early childhood and then go to a geneticist after puberty to get evaluated for EDS.
No. 373403
>>373223No, it's not, and we keep telling people not to get them.
In general, most balloon tubes and buttons are designed to work just fine without an added padding, but as some might have leakage, which is usually fairly corrosive and foul-smelling, we tell new gastrostomates to use a soft pad cut into to the midpoint from the middle of one side and ffs change them daily if not more often. Cute tubie pads are a fantastic way to collect bacteria that then can re enter the skin if the tube or button causes some abrasions or if the stoma canal has injuries. Unlike sterile disposable surgical dressing pads, which do not have a lot of anything that bacteria can feed on, tube pads from your favourite Munchie supplier are made of cotton filled, usually, with some spongy material. Add some sweat, formula and your average skin flora, and you get a fantastic way to cultivate your own little colony of MRSA. But since you're a good healthy Munchie, you'll be fine, you'll just have an ugly prurient and purulent rash. It'll be the old lady or the kid with cancer down three beds who will die as anyone and anything getting in touch with your festering tube pad starts to spread something that fucking laughs at vancomycin all over the ward.
Good job fuckers.
No. 373412
>>373271Err that is an odd place for a port. This is the first time I've even heard of a port between the breasts and over the sternum. Ports normally go under the clavicles.
In other words: wtf.
No. 373448
>>372767Because these illnesses are 1) lifelong -> lifetime of munchieing, 2) treatment is palliative (see before) and almost all are a combination of subjective discomfort + a frequent and usually nonpathological objective finding that they're likely to have anyway. It is true that some of these illnesses do travel together (POTS and EDS have a legitimate association) but some of it is funny as they used to be believed to have been connected at some point, then we realized they aren't, but Munchies didn't get the message. GP is the typical example, which was believed to travel with EDS but turned out to have a primary neurological component (via interstitial cells of Cajal), meaning that there's no reason whatsoever why EDS and possibly general dtsaytonomia should necessarily be able to cause GP, at the very least not GP that does not respond to erythromycin and/or a GNS.
Incidentally, i see a huge dip in GNSs among GP spoonies. A decade or so ago most only had GP, about a third had T1D, and those who didn't respond to mycins weren't given a tube to Munchie around with, they were put on a list for a GNS trial. Now, virtually none of these sooopah severe GP patients seem to even have HEARD of GNSs. Which is a pity as I've had formerly tube dependent GP patients get the GNS, lose the tube and a year later successfully carry a pregnancy to term. The cost of a GNS is relatively low compared to long term tube feeding and almost negligible compared to TPN, so I'm rather surprised why many of these allegedly most severe cases ever don't even seem to have had the trial stimulator test.
No. 373460
File: 1502910604173.jpg (272.79 KB, 732x1203, IMG_2962.JPG)
Cannot begin to describe how disgusting it is that Alexys has manipulated her doctor into this.
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No. 373461
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>>373460She is the worst munchie, ugh. Gross.
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No. 373482
>>373460>>373461I call BS on Jonzie's part for multiple reasons (the first being that she is jonzie). She has a history of making stuff up.
- I find is suspect that she has chosen to make that post using a check-in at the children's hospital, especially since you can check in anywhere without actually being at that spot. She is the kind who would actually take a smiling or staged picture of herself if this was all actually happening (and she has used old pictures before to make it seem like she was in the hospital when she probably wasnt)
- She is still claiming to see the pediatrician and Peds GI - this is likely more due to the fact that she knows there are other people in the support group from her area and she is trying to avoid being caught in a lie by claiming she doesn't see the same doctors because she only sees children's doctors
- If she truly had been in the ER 4x/week for weeks then they probably would have caught the being on death's door
- No doctor tells a grown adult they are a "very sick girl". They wouldn't immediately admit you for all the procedures (note that she is specific about TPN and J tube but vague on fluid infusions and intravenous meds). They might admit you to run tests before deciding you need all that stuff and they would probably try the temporary options before the surgical ones.
- If the doctor looked at her history and saw her super sick organs they would probably be hesitant to resort to TPN before tube feeds since it is harder on the organs
- If you are so close to death, you don't post on Facebook. Must have been a miracle recovery.
In the event that she is in the hospital, it is more likely because she has done something to herself to make her sick.
Jonzie is one of the worst in terms of actually doing something intentionally to make herself sick.
No. 373491
>>37328588% is low enough to be concerned, but people do walk around with saturations that low for extended periods of time with no damage. If it's consistently
triggered by a 6 minute walk, that's one thing, but transient low sats happen a lot in the hospital. I'm wondering who told her that 88% is critical and emergent because they worried her for no reason.
The best treatment for POTS is dietary changes (small, frequent, high protein low carb meals) and a BMI of 22-24. Best way to gain weight is to lift weights, which won't aggravate their POTS like cardio will.
These people have an out of this shitshow- go with the "pure and healthy lifestyle" cured me. At least they'll be sharing a positive message and they can milk that shit 5ever.
No. 373610
File: 1502926739516.jpg (199.21 KB, 1266x1154, IMG_2967.JPG)
Obviously not all vegans have eating disorders but a lot of people with eating disorders are vegan.
No. 373613
>>373610For anyone here, just for reference, if you don't like the texture of any type of protein powder do this recipe
>your powder scoops>froze banana>spoonful of almond or peanut butter>liquid of choiceIt helps smooth out the texture so it's not disgusting. I like to use chai tea and add nutmeg and cinnamon. Works with whey based too.
No. 373621
File: 1502927590645.jpg (135.04 KB, 1266x636, IMG_2970.JPG)
She's going to lose weight on purpose, it's obvious.
No. 373916
File: 1502949983573.png (146.76 KB, 747x943, IMG_2049.PNG)
>>373908Showing off both the boobs and the tubes
No. 373924
File: 1502951414857.png (44.53 KB, 313x276, Screen Shot 2017-08-17 at 1.29…)
having a period is a chronic illness now
No. 373929
File: 1502951812791.png (254.78 KB, 747x1129, IMG_2050.PNG)
First pic she's eating her popsicle and the next is a video of someone feeding it to her.
No. 373934
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why are spoonies so proud of their ports? I understand the use of saline in legitimately severe or limiting cases of POTS that arent controlled effectively with meds and lifestyle changes but what I don't understand is why the girls with ports just for saline make such a big grand deal about them. love having a port! And intentionally scheduling my salt water infusion so that I'll be hooked up in public.
oh and hashtag fighting.
No. 373981
File: 1502961672187.jpg (587.64 KB, 1920x1197, IMG_2973.JPG)
I wonder if this was in relation to posts like the ones from Alexys/Jonzie/babybear. Perhaps it was from someone here..?
No. 373982
File: 1502961740868.png (151.93 KB, 750x992, IMG_5244.PNG)
Finally discharging
No. 373983
File: 1502961791560.png (214.59 KB, 750x764, IMG_5245.PNG)
Bet she tries as hard as she can to get to the goal weight. Why are they going straight for a PEG?!
No. 373984
File: 1502961847109.png (116.97 KB, 718x520, IMG_5246.PNG)
Not taking her tube begging
No. 373988
>>373983If she has gastroparesis, a PEG will cause the same issues as oral intake…? She's full of it.
She's basically going home to lose those 3kg and then she'll return to get her precious tube. It's an eating disorder. You don't need a medical degree to see that.
No. 374001
>>373916Wow, I stand corrected. Never seen a port placed episternally. First time for everything, boys and girls. This is such a shitty location, I wonder why her surgeon did this. For modesty reasons perhaps? I predict complications from choosing that placement site for reasons previously stated…but of course that will make yer typical spoonie very happy. More attention when sepsis, skin necrosis, migration or erosion result.
And my favorite part about just this screenshot alone (I fear I'd have contamination nightmares if I watched the whole damn video):
>Wears mask>Wears gloves>Leaves frilly bra on where fabric interferes with adequate sterile field.B-but…muh kamera pointz! Fuck all teh riskz!
No. 374024
File: 1502968012103.jpg (106.86 KB, 1536x625, IMG_2978.JPG)
lol wut?! What does that even mean? She's refusing to eat.
No. 374025
File: 1502968112469.jpg (84.93 KB, 1536x563, IMG_2977.JPG)
I thought you said food was in your stomach, Carmel? Why all the tests on your bowel if your esophagus is the problem? You also said they didn't find anything wrong with you…? Can't keep up with your own lies you want a tube so bad.
No. 374041
File: 1502971122846.png (741.59 KB, 937x600, wtfcarly.png)
How the fuck does Carly manage to do a full on dance class with her sooper srs POTS? I have a different disease, but when my resting heart rate was something like 140, I did not have the energy to go flailing around in a dance class.
Like… I just don't get pictures like these. It's like they're either too stupid to know how chronic illness actually affects you, and therefore don't know that their inconsistent experiences are making them seem more like malingerers, or they're too prideful to give up other activities that make them special, like dance. Kelly was the same way, doing ridiculous poses in hospital hallways.
There has to be some absolutely aggressive jockeying for a port to be going on in order for a doctor to cave and give an otherwise healthy young woman a port.
No. 374042
File: 1502971636598.jpg (105.42 KB, 524x146, eh.jpg)
>>372164Wondering what her Rheumatologist thinks about her oh-so-inflammed joints and her flushed face, when he sees her photos. Hopefully she doesn't send him the photos of her dirty fingernails and long tooth nails.
She changed HMS to EDS and afterwards to HMS without seeing a doctor. Is she lurking here? Wondering why she insists on keeping CPS(Chronic Pain Syndrom) and HMS in her bio, but not her severe chronic sinusitis and colitis?
No. 374071
>>373988The sad thing is, even eating disorder patients can get turned away from treatments (ones that aren't feeding tubes included) until they are "sick enough" i.e. below a certain weight, which fuels the whole cycle. But the Munchie issues are just ridiculous; Carmel's making it way worse for herself.
Bets on how she will be able to ~magically eat solid food again if she gets the sooper speshul tube?
No. 374105
File: 1502983623244.jpg (507.03 KB, 1042x1330, Screenshot_20170817-102511.jpg)
Wanted to share this exchange on Carmel's latest post.
No. 374106
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No. 374144
>>373983Maybe I'm a wimp but I'll never understand why these girls get so overly excited at the thought of having a hole punched through their muscles/abdominal wall/stomach and getting a tube put into it, and dealing with the pain and leakage? Ive had nasal tubes but never a peg and I thought it was normal to be glad to not have to go through that. cant you get a hobby to be excited about instead?
Sage for semi blogging/rant
No. 374214
>>374191You're right, she only runs feeds for maybe half the day. She claims she's not reacting well to the formula and it leaves her bloated and with stomach cramps, she was talking about switching to an organic fomula and I couldn't help but laugh; she stuffs her face with shit, but wants organic formula.
It's like she's too stupid to realize that between the feeds and what she's secretly eating when her Mom and Judd aren't around she's going to be bloated, that happens when you over eat.
No. 374253
>>374191Interesting that you bring up the Perfect Storm, I was wondering that myself yesterday. Although from watching months of this fuckery I am starting to wonder if maybe her mom and Judd aren't buying it like they used to. Idk. So much going on in that house and those relationships. So much weirdness.
Has anyone noticed that she somehow is able to eat that stupid free Publix cookie EVERY SINGLE TIME she visits regardless of her symptoms or supposed severity of her GP? Is she that stupid? Does she think that we are that stupid?
And last comment - it was super weird to to me that the chick who shows us every morsel of food that goes into her body was super secretive about the "snack" her mom made her. No camera view, no description at either mention - both when she ate it or after she supposedly puked it up. Why the secrecy now? Reading here Jaquie? Hi!
No. 374260
File: 1502999530759.png (243.84 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_2980.PNG)
Someone else is calling out Carmel. There's been a few comments like this. She's so transparent.
No. 374261
>>373276Forgive my ignorance but what the hell is a "mini migraine"? Wouldn't that be… a headache?
sage for stupidity
No. 374314
File: 1503006188877.jpg (695.86 KB, 1053x1750, Screenshot_20170817-163506.jpg)
I think I found a new one!
No. 374318
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No. 374321
File: 1503006484429.jpg (613.03 KB, 1040x1442, Screenshot_20170817-161547.jpg)
Caption from the above
No. 374322
File: 1503006612127.jpg (400.68 KB, 1056x988, Screenshot_20170817-163449.jpg)
>>374320How's this? Asking for that sweet IV water to do infusions at home.
No. 374325
File: 1503007036403.jpg (861.19 KB, 1080x1615, Screenshot_20170817-155513.jpg)
Always gotta have that port in full view, even when going to a dingy concert where hundreds of people can breathe their normie germs all over it
No. 374331
>>374322What is she asking for saline for? I swear, it's just like with tubes. A few people with severe cases of POTS started getting IV saline for legitimate reasons and then slowly every POTS spoonie on Instagram starting wanting it and a precious port or picc. When those things should be absolute last resort.
sage for rant
No. 374334
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Everyone wants to be Mary.
No. 374346
>>374024I love how quickly Carmel has "deteriorated" since the hospital stay when nothing was wrong and she didn't get the tube. Before she WAS eating solids, especially soft foods for all her speshal barium testing etc.
Fucking hell she's so infuriating because I live in the same city and have been to Flinders Hospital which is the one she's had a 14 day Munchie respite in… wonder if any of my med friends have treated her…
No. 374376
>>374346fellow adelaide-chan, hi!
sage for stupid (it's freaky when cows and farmers are so close to home, no?)
No. 374378
>>374376Fuck me didn't think anyone from Adelaide would be on here!
Yeah, I acrually found Carmel while going through the Flinders Hospital tag because there's heaps of fattys with "anorexia" on that one posting about their "eating disorder ward" stays etc.
Sage for non contribution
No. 374386
>>374260carmels answer to all the commenters answers advising her to try fortisips or juices is that she can't have/eat fruit. like bitch come on! its sound more and more concrete that its and eating disorder than anything. shes been banging on and on about her esophagus and food getting caught in it, but how in the world would a liquid impede nutritional intake then if you could take a barium swallow test a few times gladly.
not enough eye rolls available for how full of it when she tries to play it off like she doesnt want to go straight for a tube
No. 374416
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No. 374458
Hi, this is Hannah (chronically_confused). I hope I'm posting this correctly since I've only ever lurked before. I'm doing my best to answer the questions you all seem to have about me, even though I don't really know why I was posted here. I am currently getting monthly IV hydration at the hospital on an outpatient basis if I need it. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. My lupus (I have SLE- but it primarily affects my kidneys, stomach, bones, and muscles) dehydrates me more quickly than a healthy person. Someone here compared me to Kadee, saying something about BPD and addiction. I have anxiety and depression, for which I take antidepressants. That's it. I do take pain medication but my doctor obviously prescribes it and has done random urine screens per office protocol. The pain medication is for the degenerative disc disease, not lupus. Lupus just caused the wear and tear on the discs to speed way up. Do I think the world revolves around me? No, but I used to. Moving out and living with my fiancé really helped me grow up. For this, I'm thankful. Do I think I'm special? No. Lupus has been easier on me than so many others. I still have both kidneys and haven't had a blood clot. I'm fine with answering any questions you have, but may I say that from lurking here awhile, it seems like it's only about one or two people really fixated on me. I did upset Carmel yesterday, she deleted the comment I posted but it wasn't too nice- I basically said that she wasn't getting a tube and she was wasting a bed. I don't know if she knows about this site but she could have posted me, I suppose. I'm just pretty confused as to why I'm here? I don't even post once a week on IG.
No. 374466
>>374458Hannah, I have bad degenerative disc disease. In fact, I just had a spinal fusion in L5S1 because of it. But it is NOT a disease. The name is a misnomer. It is a natural process that EVERYONE has to some extent. It is part of the aging process. Get over yourself. You DO NOT need long-term pain management for degenerative disc disease. You take ibuprofen when necessary, and maybe a low dose pain med for more acute symptoms, and maybe surgery when it calls for it, like me.
Degenerative disc disease is also not a reason to go on SSI for fuck's sake. Non-spoonie people who have it still work. They just manage the pain while working (again, like myself).
You are not fucking special or severely ill. You have some very manageable conditions. Most people with Lupus and degenerative disc disease work jobs and have active, fulfilling lives.
Quit with the attention-seeking drama, and move on with your life.
No. 374477
>>374466Sorry, wanted to add that if you haven't had surgery for your degenerative disc disease then you really don't have it that bad.
Sage
No. 374483
>>374466I should have been more clear. I have degenerative disc disease in my neck. So when I was first diagnosed with it, I was put on a second NSAID and used ice packs. I did that for over a year until it became dangerous. My skin was breaking down because I was relying on the ice packs to numb the area, which meant I didn't wrap them in anything. I tried every single NSAID. I kept getting worse. I wasn't sleeping- even with my sleeping pill (which I've been on since age 12 as a psych med). Eventually the stress made my lupus flare up pretty badly and I began pain meds. That's a decision my doctor and I made together, kind of like the decision for me to apply for SSI.
I know I'm not special. I never thought I was.
You probably have a much higher tolerance for pain than I do if you got by on ibuprofen. I really admire that kind of strength. For the record though, I didn't ask for pain meds until more than 18 months post diagnosis when I had no more options left. I'm not even on a strong painkillers. I know people like Chloe and various others get meds like morphine or Fentanyl patches, but I don't take anything even close to that.
As far as surgery, I'm eligible for it but most surgeons are wary to do them as I'm just 21.
No. 374486
File: 1503023026239.png (3.41 MB, 1536x2048, IMG_2983.PNG)
Purging makes your potassium drop,
No. 374491
>>374106WTF? Why can't she drink ensure? That shit is high as fuck in fat, vitamins and kcals plus it doesn't even taste too bad (when I was sick it got me weight restored fairly quickly).
I mean, I know she's starving herself on purpose, and I can even see the appeal of a tube from an ED pov bc that means complete control, but surely the Dr's etc would stick her on something like ensure before giving her a tube?
Stick her in IP and gavage her and pump her full of ensure for 2 weeks and I bet all the $ I have that she would be completely weight restored.
No. 374529
File: 1503028333491.jpg (541.13 KB, 967x1733, Screenshot_20170817-225106.jpg)
She really does have an excuse for everything, doesn't she?
No. 374538
File: 1503029753893.png (110.54 KB, 750x1096, IMG_2102.PNG)
Here's another begging for tubes. More pics to follow
No. 374539
File: 1503029784195.png (193.14 KB, 750x850, IMG_2101.PNG)
Caption for the above photo
No. 374540
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No. 374542
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Of course riding the IV pole
No. 374543
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Oh
No. 374546
File: 1503030678533.png (253.5 KB, 750x1099, IMG_2105.PNG)
#munchiegoals
No. 374549
File: 1503031070497.png (242.92 KB, 750x1097, IMG_2106.PNG)
In other news: the rest of her posts are definitely hinting at GP, but she's so uninformed it hilarious
No. 374550
>>374540Good job on threatening a doctor to get your stupid tube. Because, you know, you can't buy alcohol but you sure know what's best for you better than us. Ok, fine, kid. Enjoy your nose hose.
Also, I'm so glad we've got Munchies who, with their copious experience of endoscopies, know exactly how long an NJ insertion should take. Lol fuck off.
(Sane people explanation: it's easy to put in an NG: you simply shove it up the nose and it will eventually end up in the tummy (or the lungs, but we prefer that not to happen). NJs are trickier, they have to be led past the pyloric sphincter and through the duodenum into the jejunum. By the time we get there, the pyloric sphincter is generally shut from all the messing about upstream, and getting the scope through can be a real struggle. Maybe Miss Spoonie McMalingerson would prefer we just shove the fucking thing through, huh?
The sense of entitlement in these useless fucks is starting to really grate on me. I don't like entitled sick people to begin with, but entitled healthy people pretending to be sick is a no-no.
No. 374554
>>374546Tubie pads: $20.
T-shirt: $35.
Sitting at home browsing chronic illness tumblr and being happy for having a tube sticking out of your stomach while sane people of your age are looking at starting a career, a family and a life rather than seeking refuge in pretending to be sick: priceless.
No. 374555
>>374549If you have libido, you're not in serious pain or on serious painkillers. Speaking from both ends of the stethoscope: actual serious long term pain represses libido, and so do narcotic painkillers. So, err… she's either talking shit or talking shit. We regularly have people with intestinal tumours and other nasty and painful shit ask for help to get their libido back and are even willing to cut back on their pain meds. It's highly unlikely that anyone in as much pain as she claims she is would
want to have sex, never mind as to whether they
could.
No. 374556
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>>374549this is a new low
No. 374561
>>374551It won't, OM is really easy to fake, even without muscarinics. I hate OM as far as tests go - it's expensive, it is not diagnostic of, frankly, anything and it makes me have to deal with the physiology staff, who are notoriously ill-tempered (so am I, but I am a doctor, and I get to be an asshole). Not only is it highly susceptible to the usual suspects, the intra-subject variation is pretty bad. It screams 'last attempt before psychiatry'!
That said… what's it with the sudden rise of sensory disorders among spoonies? The ME/CFS lot used to have them, but it seems to me that Vogmasks are so yesterday and the current fashion accessory in vogue is a bright pink pair of headphones. I've seen people with autism and some cognitive disabilities benefit from them, especially in unavoidably loud areas, but the bullshit that these Munchie fucks are claiming about sensory hypersensitivity blows my mind sometimes. It's a real condition, it just has nothing to do with how the Instamunchies of the day present it.
No. 374564
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I just happened to balance my phone just right and take a video of myself coming out of a seizure!
No way. Absolutely no way.
No. 374567
>>374564holy fucking christ
this piece of shit right here… I wonder if she's even seen a full on convulsion? My sister had febrile fits as a young toddler and they were terrifying to watch… she recently started having convulsions again and she's been diagnosed with an incurable brain tumour, so I guess she has the ultimate in munchie dreams, a terminal illness
sage for incandescent rage
No. 374624
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https://themighty.com/2017/05/fighting-chronic-pain-illness-without-a-diagnosis/Her pain has no diagnosis, yet she is on oral morphine and is discussing injections with her doctor.
She crowdfunded for her nebulizer. Does the NHS not supply them? She needs it for her allergies and when recovering from her frequent seizures.
She lost her lighter under her boob where she stashed it because her clothes lack pockets. Why is she carrying a lighter? Surely she doesn't smoke if she requires a nebulizer.
Her hand and wrist joints are so loose that they require frequent bandaging and her thumb keeps dislocating, but she bravely perseveres in knitting Spoonie Squares!
No. 374651
File: 1503048300456.png (636.33 KB, 750x1334, IMG_7103.PNG)
This cow is absolutely beaming at her taste of a real tube - unfortunately for her it was just for a manometry test. Uploaded 3 other photos include an IV in her hand and IV fluids. 1/2
No. 374652
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>>374651Oooh medical mystery Carmel doesn't think the doctors don't realise she's obviously fucking purging? How else would ones potassium go down!
No. 374658
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Prior to crowdfunding her nebulizer, she posted many photos using this mask with oxygen at home after acquiring the mask in a visit to A&E. Notice that the bag is not inflated, whereas it is inflated when she uses it with her nebulizer.
No. 374659
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Quetiapine for epileptic seizures?
No. 374662
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>>374561Ok, so in medicine, we look at tests from two aspects - sensitivity and specificity. Say you want to create a tool that detects if someone or something is a dog. So it may look at whether it has four legs - most dogs do, so it's pretty sensitive, but very non-specific while a test that looks at, say, whether it looks like a photo of a Golden Retriever is going to be very specific (few non-dogs look like one) but miss a lot of totally legit dogs (not very sensitive). We use the first type of test to screen for disease and pick out folks who might benefit from more intensive testing.
OM depends very significantly on the resolution of the system used, the experience of the techs (units where a lower volume of OMs are performed p.a tend to be up to 25% wrong, which is bad). Equally, interpretation of an OM is a bit of an art form and many docs, myself included, are absolute shit at reading the results.
Finally, a pretty large number of asymptomatic people have abnormal OMs. The enclosed image shows what a hi res OM topogram looks like. The interpretation relies so much on experience, I'm often uncomfortable accepting results unless they come from a known centre of competence in OM.
As for faking, I'm not gonna give tips, but faking dysphagia is pretttty common. So much so, a more specific and better technology called deglutition surface EMG can be used to detect whether muscles of ordinarily used in swallowing are, err, recruited by the patient. Of course, none of that can differentiate between factitious and somatoform dysphagia…
No. 374663
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>>374555Those hashtags tho. #sexy #ballgag #chronicpain
No. 374666
>>374567Inoperable but benign brain tumour fag here (I could technically say I'm self-diagnosed: I collapsed at work and my colleagues dragged me into an MRI and I read my own MRI, so technically I diagnosed myself first, then a neurologist… then again, I'm a doctor!). I am so sorry about your sister. My heart breaks for families who have to struggle with the terminal illness of your loved one. Best wishes for your sister' health. I hope she's receiving adequate care and will be able to enjoy her time left here on Earth
Sage for no milk and unusual outburst of compassion.
No. 374669
>>374646God, I hate this bullshit.
We have a steady stream of people with joint issues who wrangled themselves a gastronautical referral from their doctor so that we can prove they have an organic or metabolic reason for being overweight because they are fed up with their doctors 'blaming their health issues on their weight' aka suggesting that someone with EDS might not want to gorge themselves on shit tier food and balloon up like Randi (Harper, not The Great).
It's infuriating to see the typical spoonie algorithm: out of work due to 'pain' but plenty of energy to 'raise awareness' and various cutesy activism shit. I have no problem with activism, but effectively choosing not to work and doing activism instead of work and expecting the same approval as people who volunteer their free time is just ridiculous (see genuinely ill but super-OTT Lucy Watts, who got a fucking MBE for moaning about her health issues!).
Sage for rage.
No. 374673
>>374661>>374652I know it's very strange, I've only heard "day leave" in the psych ward (UK) because people there are basically being held there.
All other patients can come and go as they please (as long as they are able to walk etc) and as long as they are not criminals or a psych patient who are being kept on the ward. Obviously we don't let those with severe dementia, or anything that makes you confused like that, out unless they are with family etc but I have never heard that as being called day leave.
But i guess, maybe it's different in NZ.
sage for medstudentfagging
No. 374681
>>374672in almost all cases, bones aren't fragile as a result of eds. Even though it's mentioned with breaks, this cow probably means cracking, as in with cracking your knuckles, displaced gasses causing sounds?
Why do these munchies not realise hypermobility, especially of the hands is a NORMAL VARIANT of humans. Quiz your peers and 4 out of 5 probably have a joint with a large range of motion than is "normal". Hypermobility itself, is not a rare disease, a few dislocations and some joint party tricks does not an EDS diagnosis make.
sage for ranting?
No. 374687
>>374483>>374483Neck, lower back, it's all the same. If it's sooooo bad you need SSI (what a joke) get surgery for it and move on with life.
I know this from experience. My stepdad had a ruptured disc in the neck from it. He got surgery and went back to work. And he's in his '50s.
Quit being such a crybaby dramaqueen.
Sage
No. 374692
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>>374680She has neurontin in her meds box. What else do we see?
No. 374697
>>374683Oh fuck! I thought I recognised her…I know this girl!!! she's been a personal cow for a while. This is an "of all the Munchies in all the world moment", She craycray and not in a psychologically impaired way just in a robyn way.
Saged for the weirdness of reality vs the internets.
No. 374699
File: 1503052994393.png (575.82 KB, 681x1036, Screenshot_2017-08-18-03-27-42…)
Her seizure condition defies diagnosis.
No. 374701
File: 1503053291395.png (742.07 KB, 686x987, Screenshot_2017-08-18-03-23-20…)
She recently bought a used pushchair for £10 for her boyfriend to push because the pain in her arms and shoulders is too great for her to self-propel her wheelchair.
No. 374702
>>374699Because she doesn't have epilepsy, she has medication induced seizures pedominantly.
Saged for specualtion although maybe medpharmafag can corroborate?
No. 374704
>>374677>>374696She says that asthma is one of her seizure
triggers. The nebulizer helps her "come round" from her seizures.
If she has diagnosed asthma, why is she not prescribed asthma medications, either in inhalers or nebulized, to prevent the asthma attacks? This would, in turn, prevent her asthma-
triggered seizures.
"While I'm grateful that I don't have epilepsy I'm also upset that doctors haven't been able to find a cause. Its upsetting that they've seemed to have given up in trying to find a cause and all the while I still get hurt."
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/nebuliser4sophiebull No. 374705
>>374670She literally had a comment suggesting a PICC and Carmel's replied "hmm no one's mentioned a PICC" "they had to get an expert in to find a vein" and her current hand IV "kinda hurts too"
Carmel stop being such an obvious munchie
No. 374722
File: 1503058191134.png (254.59 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_2986.PNG)
Chinese food makes a lot of people feel nauseous especially if you eat too much which, let's face it, she probably did.
No. 374723
File: 1503058459598.png (299.82 KB, 760x1019, Screenshot_2017-08-18-11-57-18…)
>>374704Wait for the gofundme for this or the pip backpayment.. whichever comes first.
No. 374728
>>374702>>374699Or psychogenic non-epileptic seizures (PNES) which can be caused by dissociative episodes which she has stated that she experiences. The EEG results would seem too indicate this as well.
Sage for speculation.
No. 374740
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No. 374741
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No. 374743
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No. 374751
>>374738>>374704The NHS rarely covers nebulizers. Medication requires a prescription. She appears to be using it only with the saline she ordered and not with medication to treat asthma.
"When oxygen is provided or a nebuliser in hospital I come around far quicker and the after effects of the seizure wear off incredibly fast.
Now while I adore the NHS my doctor won't give me a nebuliser or oxygen due to funding. I've tried to beg for it but it doesn't seem to be happening, however they suggested Amazon; to get my own. Wonderful! Although I'm too unwell to work, I have absolutely no money at all."
No. 374757
>>372040>>372040>>374723Omg being a doctor and reading all this crap really makes me mad
QUIT SMOKING you IDIOT, you don't need a stupid mask, you just want it to look "sicker"… if they threw you out of the hospital it's because they KNOW you're full of bullshit
sigh… she's just an obese attention seeker
just lose some weight and quit smoking and you'll feel better! I hate people who can't see obvious problems and have to blame it on made up crap… agh
No. 374766
>>374751Here's an idea for her, stop smoking and eating sh*t, like takeaway, the money you save you can spend on all the medical crap you want?? (Which you will probably find you don't "need" half as much)
Claiming lung issues and poverty when you smoke is infuriating!
No. 374767
File: 1503064906505.png (542.84 KB, 679x1158, Screenshot_2017-08-18-06-44-36…)
Fledgeling munchie? She has been an Instagram spoonie for only a year, but she already disparages her doctors and has self-diagnosed or suspects that she has EDS, POTS, epilepsy, and a rare gastric condition. She is quickly collecting props and invented Spoonie Squares.
No. 374770
>>374731Her doctor told her that she should get a face mask to avoid
triggers which would cause breathing issues but didn't tell her to fuck right off when they learned she was a smoker? Maybe it's a Canuck thing but around here a doctor will demand that you quit smoking, especially if you're complaining about something regarding the lungs. I've heard of doctors refusing treatment until you quit for certain problems to make sure the smoking isn't causing something that you're presenting with (if it's not a life or death thing).
sage for not understanding how the world works
No. 374784
>>374771Worst part is she'll be awarded higher rate care due to "mental instability" it's unlikely she'll get the full mob component as she CAN mobilise 20metres with the relevant aides. I've got me a real life terminal illness and still don't qualify for pip.
Sage for dwp rage.
No. 374789
>>374770I think her doctor was just trying to get her out of his office tbh in the most tactful way possible, both her and her mother have been quite vocal about her (many) dr's skepticism and dismissal of her blatant munchiness, she doesn't have dissassociative fugues she has childish attention seeking tantrums, there a whole world of difference, paramedics treat her at home as she's on hospital nope list irl.
Saged for bitchiness but I just can't with this girl.
No. 374792
File: 1503068575784.png (751.82 KB, 671x1173, Screenshot_2017-08-18-07-38-39…)
Likely due to her suicide attempts and unintentional morphine overdoses.
"I'm being careful, oral morphine is incredibly addictive and countless times I've taken morphine when I didn't need it as much just to make me sleep through my days."
"I strongly dislike the stuff, it tastes awful, the side effects are terrible, and if I'm vomiting then it's useless as I can't keep it down. I've begged the doctors for other options like morphine patches or even morphine injections but they declined. The next step down from this that I have us cocodomal. If none of these drugs work then usually it ends in a trip to A&E."
"Co-dydamole didn't help my pain, just made me very sick, then tried me on codine and it did the same thing. I was on Tramadol for a year and at the time I didn't feel like it was working but when I was taken off it I noticed the difference, now they won't let me back on it. I've asked over and over and they say "no its addictive"….then they give me morphine…makes sense…"
No. 374796
File: 1503069794707.png (650.8 KB, 687x1179, Screenshot_2017-08-18-08-13-40…)
This is the same mask she was given in A&E four days prior and which she now uses with her nebulizer. Curiously, it inflates when she uses it with her nebulizer but does not when she uses it with oxygen.
But didn't she also say that she needs her nebulizer because her doctor won't give her a script for home oxygen?
And yet her doctor prescribed a migraine med that decreases her oxygen levels enough to necessitate oxygen?
No. 374797
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Apparently she's well enough to chug stomach melting gutter wine. This IG community is one hell of a rabbit hole.
No. 374816
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>>374797And mobile enough to do this…. but still wonders why her pip was reviewed.
No. 374817
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No. 374822
File: 1503072540332.png (661.84 KB, 673x1015, Screenshot_2017-08-18-09-06-39…)
And now she inexplicably vomits everything she eats.
No. 374823
File: 1503072733056.jpg (658.39 KB, 1060x1382, Screenshot_20170818-110758.jpg)
Just wanted to drop this in. A 9/10 headache and she doesn't want to go to the ER because she wants to see her friend come to town. Bullshit.
No. 374840
>>374833not to white knight these idiots but the pain scale is subjective, 10 being the most intense pain
you've felt in your life, so ofc, even a small injury could be a 10 if the patient is a stupid munchie
No. 374856
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>>374840>>374845This is my favorite way to explain the pain scale.
sage for non-contributing to the main topic
No. 374866
Seconded on Lucy Watts. She's definitely sick to a point but she's a singularly unpleasant and a huge Munchie.
Highlights include:
- forcing his way into Together for Short Lives, a campaign for children's palliative care, despite not being terminal - we who knew her as a patient were rather shocked to hear how much more seriously she presented her condition than it actually was
- lots of suspicious line infections
- obligatory assistance dog
- Hickman line, drainage bag and her fucking urinary catheter all exposed, arrrgh
- both she and her mother are extremely pushy, collecting all sorts of awards and accolades for not doing shit
- she is actively imitating a genuinely ill young lady - every time she gets something, Lucy's gotta have it too
- she collected money, among others with the help of her former classmates, to attend school: as soon as she had her wheelchair, she decided she was too sick to go to school
- she cocreated a charity to fund the research of Prof. Aziz, a neurogastroenterologist who thinks everybody with nondiabetic GP has some connective tissue issue, and keeps diagnosing everyone who has GP with EDS and POTS depending on symptoms. PORT, the 'charity' supporting research, has been a vehicle to keep his research, which his widely accepted and loved spoonies but generally scientifically debunked
- other highlights include starting a charity (Lucy's Light) for herself and being an ass to everyone when admitted - not the 'I'm in pain' kind to ass but the 'I know everything' knid fo ass. She was once invited to speak to some med students about palliative care, which she now reflects on as 'lecturing' to med students.
No. 374875
File: 1503079187363.jpg (77.14 KB, 414x436, deformed.jpg)
>>372164I guess my fingers are deformed too.
No. 374898
File: 1503083773927.jpg (122.44 KB, 444x720, IMG_0596.JPG)
>>374856We liked to use this one among the staff when I worked in a sub-acute rehab
Sage for off topic but thought it might be appreciated by this crowd
No. 374903
>>374891Eating mac and cheese, broccoli and bread crumb coated chicken. Da fuq? I have never seen her as giddy as she was in this video. She is absolutely over the moon about this new feeding tube.
One thing I don't follow that she said today, but I also have zero medical background so maybe it does make sense, but she said that one of the reasons she really needs this tube change to happen is bc she is not tolerating her feeds well and wants to change formula. Couldn't she try a new formula with the existing tube?
No. 374908
>>374903reading your summary anon is why i absolutely cannot watch her vlogs. i think my heart would explode from anger.
>>374898>>374856i appreciate these on a deep level ty anons! the pain scale gets confusing, and its always laughable when you here people brag about having a high pain tolerance because there certainly are different types of pain blah blah. like ive given birth, so ive felt that sort of pain, now i compare that to other things i feel so what might be an 8 will be a 5 for me, you never know.
No. 374922
>>374918oh my god spoonie starter pack 101:
IG name with chronically, fighting, warrior, or lifewith in it. chronically should be your first choice if you want to gain followers though!
make sure your tubes/tubie pads are showing in every picture and if not, show off your port outside your TARGET MOSSIMO SHIRT
leggings. you're only allowed to be photographed for your spoonie account in leggings.
advanced spoonie pack:
create a helper_dog handle for your service hamster
use multiple emojis to express your contempt at doctors during your totally necessary 15+ day hospital admission
bonus super advanced spoonie:
create a binder with all your medical records in it to drop on doctor's laps the SECOND they walk in the room
No. 374924
>>374903Oh my god she is exhausting. Like, she is just so high energy, and chipper, and so oriented and just…? The most healthy person I have ever seen. She's so well nourished and energetic.
Also who can talk this long about their illness? 10 fucking minutes? Jesus, even when I'm having necessary talks with people who aren't my medical professionals, I can keep it under a minute even with QnA. And that's with an actual seizure disorder not in remission that is likely to affect others.
Also "severe state of chronic malnourishment", no Jacquie. You were never extremely malnourished. You were slender and you exaggerated your physical symptoms to make it appear like you were more fragile than you were. Purging will put stress on your autonomic system that will make it appear like your baseline is worse off. Even simple dehydration is enough to scare doctors, because it can make it look like your body has all sorts of unpleasant problems.
Also the solid food looks atrocious. I don't even have stomach problems, and that would probably stop me up. All of that processed food would send any healthy person over the edge ffs.
No. 374985
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I'd bet my last $5 that she's after a permanent tube.
No. 374986
File: 1503096743143.png (2.81 MB, 1536x2048, IMG_2994.PNG)
Surely you have a tube BECAUSE you can't eat. Yet, they all still try….
No. 374993
File: 1503098839491.png (1.32 MB, 750x1334, IMG_0298.PNG)
Not sure if anyone has posted Or looked up epileptic bear before but she has all the diagnoses from
Eds to cervical cancer to super severe ePilepsy with lots of seizure pics and medical accessories
No. 374999
File: 1503099559144.png (1.1 MB, 1536x2048, IMG_2996.PNG)
>>374993 How is she even alive?!
No. 375004
File: 1503100500461.jpg (92.66 KB, 1536x563, IMG_2998.JPG)
"Severe vitamin D deficiency"
Is that the best you can do?
Isn't it something like 75% of adults are deficient?
Sit in the sun!
No. 375007
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It's really not that common to get kicked out of GP surgeries in the UK, so the fact that this is the 4th one is concerning. She really, really needs proper mental health help. Also, tramadol AND morphine for hypermobility pain is just insane.
Pic 1/2
No. 375011
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Sophie has been declined further treatment by a fourth surgery and by the pain specialists.
In the UK, if doctors suspect that a patient is a munchie or is malingering or has a conversion or somatic disorder, do they not refer them to psychiatry or communicate with the patient's existing mental health provider?
No. 375012
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No. 375015
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Going through older IG posts, Twisted ordered a pulse oximeter and asked about PoTS and got this response.
No. 375020
File: 1503103087121.png (322.63 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_7386.PNG)
>>375018Someone prescribed her ice cream, what a fucking joke. There's tons of comments about how "cute" her tube is. What the actual fuck.
No. 375045
>>374654Fuuuuck. I just did those parlour tricks with my hands as I lay here in bed. If I can bend my fingers like this (and I am creaky old lady), the absolutely ANY woman can. What a faker.
This thread makes me furious like no other.
Sage for no contribution
No. 375046
>>374915Go for black and white filters if possible. Moon, willow, and inkwell add a really nice raw emotional mood especially to pics that include your toobs and devices. When using b&w filters never forget to come up with some kind of quote to convey the beautiful metaphor that is your tragic life.
sage for giving horrible life advice
No. 375054
>>375015Twisted indeed ordered a pulse oximeter and proceeded to post a lot of pics and videos of sitting around with it on her finger
sage for not contributing
No. 375056
>>374663>>374549Why the fuck does this lard think anyone wants to know about her sex life? Urrgh the mind images are going to induce psychosomatic vomiting, and probably PTSD.
Sage
No. 375072
>>375052Thought I was the only one with POTS who didn't have GP or EDS. I'm super bendy should I make a chronicinstagram being flexible and demanding fluids from ed when I'm attention starved?!
Makes me so angry when people cry POTS over a slightly elevated HR or claim they were diagnosed without proper diagnostic testing and very quickly. A POTS diagnosis can take a long time.
Also the only major risk with POTS is you pass out and hit your head. It's not a life ending terminal illness.
No. 375073
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No. 375076
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>>375060Exhibit B
Can't remember which post but someone commented telling her that wearing nail lacquer can distort pulse ox readings. She responded basically saying that her machine is the same whether she wears it or not. Most spoonies would think they were dying with an HR of 174.
No. 375078
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Exhibit C
Can't say I didn't see that coming.
No. 375080
>>375076Someone of her weight and lack of fitness probably just hase to jump up and down for a few minutes for this to happen.
Also monitoring to this extent will exhibit a psychsomatic response as focusing on numbers and anxiety will ratchet the hr up.
No. 375094
>>375087Especially the oxygen. The oxygen could not be any better.
>>375092That was my first thought- a lot of meds have an effect on your heart rate and blood pressure. I mean depending on what she's doing with that nebuliser can't a lot of breathing treatments even do that? Not a medfag so may not know what I'm talking about.
No. 375096
>>375094Morphine is a depressant that will drop hr and bp.
Nebs have a good chance of causing tachycardia as it's a steroid and stimulant.
No. 375101
>>375094She's using only saline in her nebulizer, not albuterol.
She has never posted a pic of her oxygen "cans."
No. 375107
>>375096Nebulizers can deliver bronchodilators such as albuterol or steroids or a combination of both, but she is using only saline in her nebulizer which she ordered herself. In the video she posted when she received the nebulizer she mumbled something about needing to get a script for the meds, but she never posted to confirm that she had gotten them.
Sage for longtime nebulizer fag.
No. 375109
File: 1503111090980.png (1.16 MB, 1536x2048, IMG_3003.PNG)
Jaquie finally got her beloved button. Now she can eat all the crap food she wants and purge to her heart's content via the G port. Yay!
No. 375110
>>375019It's highly illegal in the U.S. to doctor shop like this. American hospitals as well as physicians keep close track of pain meds that are prescribed, and some even make you sign a legal document agreeing only to fill scripts signed by one specific clinic or hospital. Do they not do this in the UK? People go to jail for doctor shopping in America.
Sage for dumb question
No. 375114
>>375042Our fatty freak has her new tube and she's entirely, abnormally too excited about it.
And this is total BEC but wtf is up with that stupid open mouthed face that Judd uses in almost every picture or vlog? Fly catching us for frogs?!?
No. 375117
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In April Sophie bashed her knee in a fall resulting from a seizure. She was given the mask in A&E. Over the next few days she was pictured using it at home. A follower then questioned her about her home oxygen
>>374796. Not once did she photograph the "cans."
After she got the nebulizer she posted several photos of herself using the mask but with it inflated. Hilariously she hashtagged them #oxygen.
No. 375118
>>375115Of course it is. And she must, must let it dangle outside her shirt while showing off her precious "buh-in" bc any device not visible might as well not be there.
She'll probably start wearing halter tops.
No. 375119
File: 1503111893192.png (1.13 MB, 800x798, Screenshot_2017-08-18-20-03-02…)
After she got her nebulizer.
No. 375122
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Apparently she had to watch her every move and lost all her hair from being suh sickly
No. 375130
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>>375119All that knitting despite her painful, loose, cracking joints and frequent thumb dislocations.
No. 375136
>>375102>>375117Sophie has not mentioned undergoing spirometry or a lung function test.
Nor has she mentioned using a peak flow meter which most pulmonologists require of their asthma patients. The only asthma med she has pictured is an albuterol sulfate inhaler.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/home-oxygen/Pages/Introduction.aspx No. 375179
>>375072You're definitely not the only one. I'd go so far as to say it's MOST pots patients who dont have GP, and quite a lot who don't have EDS. The whole idea that the three always go together is just the result of it becoming a social club on instagram. If you have POTS, you know its debilitating and hard to live with, but like you said, it's also not on par with terminal, really harmful illnesses. By automatically grouping it with GP and EDS and a whole list of conditions on instagram, spoonies paint it in a progressive and catastrophic light. It makes you feel like crap and forces you to change your life, but its not this thing that automatically equals immediate multiple diagnoses, tubes, ports, and a warehouse of medical equipment. I'm in some POTS groups on Facebook and ALL THE TIME there are people posting saying things about how they feel like POTS is going to kill them, and asking how it affects your lifespan. So this whole spoonie narrative rubs off on unsuspecting people who go online looking for answers after being diagnosed with pots.
And on the other hand, it's also a lot more extensive of a condition than the instagram munchies seem to comprehend. If their heart rate goes up a little, likely from deconditioning, dehydration, or even med side effects, they immediately go looking for a pots diagnosis and get so excited when they get it. Its all stupid.
No. 375189
>>375179Yes! I do have POTS and agree with you wholeheartedly! Deconditioning is a massive part of the illness as so many people have to stop their lives and readjust and then get worse as a result. It's totally life altering but in no way terminal.
So many people think because their hearts a little fast or jumps up on postural changes it must be POTS. But no. Just no. It's so much more.
No. 375205
>>375110Hahaha, the US is the worst of all for doctor shopping. Look at Jaquie, bitch. Or the munchie mum with the two daughters. Or babybear! All the US munchies, high or low profile, doctor shop to high heaven and you're deluded if you think that isn't happening. It's much
more difficult to see different doctors in the UK because generally you're kept in your own geographic area even if they legit are lacking certain services. Socialised medicine is generally a good thing obviously and we are lucky to have it, but it does result in a postcode lottery where some people automatically get much better care than others. You can't seriously think the US is better at restricting doctor shopping? It's all about
drugs, that's all.
No. 375214
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This article just makes me think about all of those 'vaccine injuried' munchies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/~/article-4798978/index.html No. 375217
>>375203That's not her scooter; she was using one supplied by Ikea for customers.
She did get her first wheelchair a year ago, though.
She has not claimed to have POTS, but she seems to always be fishing for potential new Instagram spoonie diagnoses-by-association. Her primary complaints are undiagnosed pain and seizures.
No. 375223
File: 1503126930111.png (48.07 KB, 678x160, Screenshot_2017-08-19-00-11-37…)
>>375217How that shit starts.
No. 375225
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This happened on May 1. The injury happened April 21.
No. 375227
>>375122Pretty sure she said she shaved all her hair off without knowing like when she "didn't even know she'd overdosed on morphine" in some sort of dissociative state. Think it may have been on the YouTube video shared up the thread.
Completely boggled by this one. Never known someone so nonchalant about calling ambulances or complain about vomiting when she's chugging friggin morphine like water.
No. 375230
>>375223I'm in a few EDS groups and it is hilarious to notice all the trends. Suddenly everyone has GP and POTS. The new trends here seem to be bladder problems and cluster headaches. Maybe we should invent a medical problem and see if we can start a trend?
Sage for being petty
No. 375240
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You're dehydrated.
No. 375241
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Sophie's first morphine overdose.
No. 375242
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Sophie's second morphine overdose which, combined with her history of suicidality and prior sectioning, led to
>>374792 No. 375249
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What is her mask hooked up to? Her teddy bear's ass?
No. 375281
>>375272Her spoonie insta is chronicallyrubyy and she's faking for sure. Friends with Chloe Leane and the rest of the bloodsuckers of course. How they can bring themselves to waste resources like that…
Vaccine injured is code for personality disorder at this point, at least on social media.
No. 375284
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Carmel's had "day leave" for her super speshal mystery digestion problems that no test have detected and that the hospital tried discharging her from ages ago. 1/2
No. 375285
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>>375284Oooh a sore neck and a headache… is she gunning for a meningitis work up? Wants an unecesarry lumbar puncture so she can stay another few hours?
Relevant because it's been in the news here where Camel and I live in Adelaide that a 23 year old woman (same age as Carmel) has been diagnosed with meningococcal disease.
No. 375286
>>375285'escaping the hospital' to go see a romantic comedy about a woman suddenly having a infection and being hospitalized?
10\10 munchying right there.
No. 375289
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>>375242The shittiest is probably that shes one of those cunts who posts art with no mention of the artist at all, plus the one with the caption 'cute' is tagged with #ddlg
No. 375295
>>374666Thank you.
Yeah, she has a glioblastoma multiforme at 35, so she's pretty young for that sort of cancer, it's pretty fucked up.
We're lucky to have public health care here and, while it can be slow and is overburdened, we have really good treatment options (there's even cancer specialist hospitals) so she's in good hands.
She's back to working part time and going to the gym when she's not on her chemo week (1 week out of every 4) so she's really trying to stay as well as she can for as long as she can.
Honestly, I reckon
I'd be malingering if I had terminal brain tumour, but she's just trying to live as normal a life until the tumour progresses to the point of her being incapacitated.
That's what blows me away, these young women resigning themselves to an invalid's life when people who could do that with no judgement are out there squeezing as much activity as they can into as much time as they have.
So seeing that soft white bitch claiming she managed to catch her seizure by deftly balancing her camera just infuriates me, she's pretending to have something that is a terrible thing to live with and making light of it, like how is she so fucking full of herself that she's unable to recognise how goddamn offensive that is?! Gah.
sorry, sage for rage and so on
No. 375305
>>375110It's not illegal to doctor shop in if you switch around to a bunch of different doctors it's more of a changing your storying and lying and say different things to different doctors to try get narcotics which depending on the few states that have rules about it there isn't much they are doing about it other than ban you from said hospital that you were doing it in. Not a felony unless you're getting it to sell then they can charge you with something.
But for the people who are slightly muchie and continue to use the same symtoms over and over again until a less knowledgeable doctor decides to help that's not doctor shopping that's "seeking" another opinion.
No. 375307
>>375295
>That's what blows me away, these young women resigning themselves to an invalid's life when people who could do that with no judgement are out there squeezing as much activity as they can into as much time as they haveTbh, it's be because it's fucking terrifying thinking that you have a few years max before your body can't do anything at all.
That's what these munchies with mild or non-progressive illnesses don't understand. They're clinging to their continued narrative of victimization because they always have the option of stopping when it gets too scary or when it stops benefiting them. See: EDSmama, who spent years in a wheelchair, crowing about dying from EDS, until miraculously through the miracle of faith, woo, and clean eating she was cured!111!
Blog here:
https://edsmama.blogspot.com/When you don't have the option, and you're staring down the certainty of your body withering away no matter what you do, despite healthy living, medication, whatever, you're going to get as much of what you can out of your body while you can do it.
I'm stuck in this situation right now. Over a period of 4 years, my trunk and shoulder/pelvic girdle has wasted on average 4 inches, which is unable to be restored through nutrition and exercise, because polymyositis is just like that. But I'm going to spend what time I have and what strength I have doing the most insane shit I can do, because fuck if I know when I can't even stand up from a chair anymore.
Sage for blogging
No. 375320
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Ugh Carmel is such a dipshit.
>asking about why I'm smiling even though I'm in the hospital well to me this is the best place I can be I was really struggling and scared not being able to eat at home so I'm just so happy that they are taking care of me here
actually admitting that they are filling your cluster b vacuum of need is fucking stupid.
Glad that the docs wised up pretty quickly and ejected her asap once they discovered there was nothing physically wrong with her. These fucking morons blocking beds and sucking up resources.
No. 375339
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She needs a wheelchair with a neck rest but can sit on this wall?! (Cropped because there's a child in the pic)
No. 375341
>>375285Can't eat anything. Buys a chocolate and hazelnut candybar.
Totally how digestive issues work.
No. 375365
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Jacquie is beaming today and talking about how proud she is of her new GJ buh-in. Lots of Munchie porn including her putting on her specially ordered "toobie pads" for the first time.
No. 375366
>>375365Ive avoided her vlogs for so long bc I already find her obnoxious without videos as well, but I watched one today and my primary thought was
'damn Judd seems like a nice guy.. I feel bad for him'
sage for pitying the cows husband
No. 375369
>>375365Highlights include:
-A super closeup of the current dangling tube that is viscerally unpleasant.
-explaining the button tube allows her to "vent" undigested food and acid. (so basically purging)
-validation of a constant stream of medicalized attention, as the button tube is only supposed to last 4-6 months. ffs
-hasn't eaten since 8:30 the previous night u guize like omg (slices of chicken breast god)
-defends her solid food choices, she hardly ever eats all of what's on her plate!
-wears the vogmask while in the pre-op suite, but not in the car??? (why has none of the medical staff caught on to this???)
-she seems pretty together for having gone under general anethesia. Also pretty high energy after surgery, this chick must have the stamina of the insane.
She just flaunts every aspect of this incredibly unpleasant procedure, and to be honest it actually made me queasy. Hworf.
No. 375427
>>375225I see she looked up 'EDS', saw 'loose skin' and immediately got the message.
This girl will claim vEDS before the year is done, trust me.
No. 375436
>>3752421) who the fuck gives Oramorph to a schizophrenic with a mental history longer than my forearm?
2) so she OD'd on Oramorph, big fucking deal - the maximum she could have had would be, what 200mgs MST? If you're not opioid naive, that would probably not cause you to get too sick. When I worked in a hospice, we had the odd dying person who had a little too much Fentanyl, we simply watched their pulsox and cranked up her oxygen. Oh wait, you don't actually have home oxygen. Haha.
3) anyone with her history should have naloxone at home.
4) Oramorph is a bad drug mainly because it's so fast acting, and based on stomach contents, rather unpredictable. Someone like her could safely be given a low dose (12mcg) Fentanyl patch or a buprenorphine patch with small amounts of bupe pills for breakthrough pain. Not only is she big enough for it (you need body fat for the fentanyl patch to be effective in slowly releasing the stuff), she would have a lower abuse and suicide risk, especially with buprenorphine's antagonism/agonism property, and best of all, she could have a constant dose rather than using her medication for pain relief as a help for calming down. I absolutely, passionately hate benzos, and yes, it can cause respiratory depression, but giving the mentally ill chronic pain patient a script for a tiny amount (say, .25 Xanax, Rx 5, refill after office visit or phone call only) actually reduces the addiction risk - with something to manage the upsetness and agitation, they can use the narcotic solely for the pain, preserving low dose effectiveness while getting better relief from their non-physical pain.
Sage for medfagging.
No. 375439
>>375293This is bullshit.
For very obvious reasons, the body doesn't get 'used to the pain', and if spoonies had 9+ pain all day most days, they'd be dead.
Seriously. I've seen, from both sides, the kind of pain where the patient is just given one shot of fentanyl after another because their pain is making their blood pressure and heart rate go up high. I've seen people pass out from pain. What I haven't seen is the slightest bit of evidence that these people are enduring horrible high level pain all day, unless you count dumb emoji overuse, constant fishing for another diagnosis, clinging to doctors and their stupid obsession with zebras (oh fuck off, 'zebras' in the med school phrase refer to really rare diseases, not your run of the mill GP+EDS+POTS triple bill) as symptoms.
No. 375460
>>375365Is there a emulative precedent for her doing "thumbs up" every other sentence. I can't be asked to watch The Frey Life, much less Munchie YTs. They're really uninteresting. In general this seems like a relatively closed sphere of interest. If you aren't chronically ill or a munchie, it's boring.
Jacquie in general displays atypical gesturing and speech, but it could easily be performative.
Her GI doctor works at Mayo so that explains a lot IMO. Private clinics like that will rarely be skeptical enough to send you for an in depth psych evaluation. It's not even directly because they're greedy. Doctors there tend to have an intervention heavy mindset. Plus they know you have the means to go elsewhere if they don't cater to you.
>>375366I don't discount that Judd is probably an ok guy. Jacquie going off the deep end is relatively recent, as is them being engaged. It's not surprising he feels compelled to bend over backwards. He probably thinks the more effort he puts in, the faster she'll improve physically.
Unfortunately, catering like this is very enabling. His good intentions are probably making things worse.
Jacquie can play this game forever. He can't, unless he's a masochist.
Still sometimes people with low-self esteem latch onto this sort of thing. Playing the hero gives them a sense of value.
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No. 375471
>>375460There's a particular mindset of person who is easily suckered into a long relationship with a sociopathic, abusive Munchie. Especially given Judd's military past, I can see how he feels like he's giving up his life, his energy, his time and, quite frankly, probably a lot of his expectations of a relationship's physical parts, for something worthwhile. He might even feel that this is a cross to carry and something that to an extent ennobles him. The reality is, he's being used, and he'll become the villain rapidly, as soon as he stops playing the game. Which he eventually will, one way or the other.
Jaqui is a thoroughly unpleasant creature judging from the videos. She's gone past the 'I'm sick and this is how I'm coping with it' to 'look at my cool sick people toys!' The excited anticipation with which she awaited her tube, her general demeanour etc. are all red flags. Of course, her mother and Judd seem to enable her, which is sad. With proper psychiatric treatment, she could possibly have a decent human relationship, not living a Frey Life knock-off.
Somewhat cruel question: what will Jaqui do it and when the girl from Frey Life succumbs to her illness? Sure, these days people with CF live longer, but it remains very much a life limiting illness. Jaqui's whole ambition is to ape the Freys, from the trailer to the tone, but it comes across so artificial, derivative and feigned…
No. 375516
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This isn't exactly milk and is probably petty but am I correct in saying that the eclipse itself poses no actual danger to your service animal unless they decide to share at the sun? I mean how different is that than bringing your dog out on any other day? kek
No. 375527
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She's so fucking happy.
No. 375531
>>375527She needs to tuck the port tubing out of the way; could have done this all along and not claimed it was going to get caught in her beloved feeding tube; a loop in the tubing and a piece of tape is what lots of people with ports/broviacs do!
Of course, most other people with central lines are not complete munchies!
No. 375535
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"Oh cool!"
This is why Munchies are so toxic. Feeding tubes are not toys, they're not cool, they're not exciting. Fuck Jacquie for promoting this kind of behavior and minimizing the struggles of those who actually need these interventions.
No. 375543
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Last comment!
No. 375552
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No. 375588
>>375543There is absolutely no evidence that someone in GI distress eating food they might throw up will restore their GI function or keep it from deteriorating. In a normal person, GI peristalsis keeps going whether the stomach is empty or not. There exists a protocol intended to get the intestines going that uses a slowly increasing trickle feed starting at a relatively low rate, but given that she can process formula (unlike most people with severe GP, who tend to reverse peristalse it back from the jejunal tube up to the stomach and then up the oesophagus, leading to dark, bile-stained vomit), she must have some intestinal function left. Often, when we give patients with GP jejunal tubes, it is to give their stomach a break, and then slowly reintroduce some food through the G-port alongside the main feed in the J-port, and slowly shift incoming balance towards the G-port. Indeed that, rather than 'venting', is the main reason we give G/J tubes rather than straight PEJ/RIJ tubes. Bottom line, she could have a far easier time if she just stopped eating orally or chew/spit, for a few months then slowly start a trickle feed in her stomach. But no, she'd rather eat, the piggish piggy pig that she is.
Btw, if your doctors want you to vent, you get given a script for Farrell bags (vacuum bags to vent into). Venting with a syringe is extremely stupid and can cause major damage to your stomach, as can trying to suck things then squirting water through the G-port. The G-port is not designed to suction much because it doesn't have a hollow lumen, its lumen has an annular shape as it has to accommodate the J-tube in the middle. So it will get clogged at the first bite of food. Worse, because buttons are far softer, the suction that the G-port experiences causes the sides of the tube, which ought to rest in the stoma, to bend inwards. This has an effect as if you used a sort of peristaltic pump to suck gastric contents into the space between the stomp and the tube. The results are predictable: irritation, infections, sepsis, up to and including peritonitis and/or death. That's why Farrell bags have a relatively low suction compared to plugging a syringe on it and tugging on it. Venting and Farrell bags are intended to relieve gaseous dilation (usually from bacterial overgrowth) and bile, not to remove what you have eaten, you esting-disordered Munchie fuck.
Sage for medfag rage.
No. 375589
>>375552Bullshit. I've seen people being given actual life changing treatments like GNSs and pain neurostimulators and better meds that mad their issues go away. They were like 'whoa, neat!' but I've never seen this behavior in anyone we did not suspect of being a Munchie.
Rather, it seems that all these medical interventions - and these specific ones - are seen by the Munchies to validate them, to externalize and show that they really are 'very sick', and buttons are more popular among long term tubies and of course much more comfortable - the point is to fake disease, not to pretend to be unwell, after all!
No. 375603
>>375595MLS is awful and a bad example, but people don't automatically get their diagnosis changed from anorexia to EDNOS when they're going through recovery. Most clinicians retain the anorexia diagnosis if that's what was determined in the first place, unless the nature of the eating disorder drastically shifts to the point that a major rediagnosis is genuinely necessary (e.g. AN to BED).
Sage for ana fagging
No. 375606
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Requires canes, crutches, wheelchairs, and mobility scooters in the shops but is not so disabled that she cannot climb her 200+ lb body into a cramped caravan bunk.
No. 375613
>>375595Can't stand to watch her vlogs.
At least it sounds like the therapist might actually be trying to push her a bit and not just coddling her. MLS spends all her time thinking that she is sick when really she just seems to perseverate and over-exaggerate every minor ache and pain.
She claims she is "slipping" with her anorexia and can't tolerate anything but has eaten ice cream after being told not to and then recently ordered Chinese food (and I imagine that cheap Americanized Chinese food is the furthest thing someone with GP could be eating). When called out for it she claims that she just had to give in to the craving. Claims she can't research the diets because she can't look at a screen too long but spends all day watching netflix, vlogging, and posting on IG. She has been going on about her heart and feeling like she is going to pass out (while looking absolutely fine) so I suspect she is also angling for a POTS diagnosis.
Glad the therapist thinks she should be getting a job - clearly MLS is just too lazy or too afraid that work will be too hard. If she had a job maybe she could focus on coming up with some sort of purpose in life that doesn't involve being a special snowflake. Unfortunately, I think she grew up being told she was a special snowflake, so its unlikely she knows how to find an identity outside of it.
No. 375629
>>375311It depends where the pain is and what's causing it- severe migraines don't cause stabbing pain but they can cause you to cry whereas a cesarean incision may not hurt that much but if you cough it's agony
it's generally dependent on what the injury/cause of pain is as to what type of pain you experience
No. 375660
>>375596Right, I forgot about that.
Is there actually any medical benefit to doing saline nebulizers? That just sounds pointless, to make her look sooper speshul but I'm no professional.
No. 375661
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Just over a week ago, she was complaining she vomiting after eating one chip but it seems she can eat again. These munchies seem to have selective vomiting problems, even when angling for a sooper serious gastroparesis diagnosis. And when they do eat, it's not foods that are recommended or foods you would expect they MIGHT digest e.g. chicken broth and salted crackers.
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No. 375805
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> guisssse my pain is literally a 9/10 right now ;P
Fuck me someone wipe that godawful grin off her face that she has in every. single. photo. or so god help me !!
No. 375811
>>375805Too young for triptans? Sounds really strange.
What's up with all the undiagnosed Endo and ASD people out there?
No. 375821
>>375817Well, nebbing saline will do fuck all for
that, so good luck.
No. 375826
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I eat and vomit and eat and vomit and eat and vomit…I love my body!
No. 375834
>>375826Err, of course she's allowed to do whatever the fuck she wants. But she is actively making her 'illness' (largely consisting of a body overloaded by shitty food and underdemanded by lack of exercise) worse.
She's pathetic, and her 'disabled body' is a pathetic excuse for the fact that she's given up on herself and is content to gorge herself on food and live the glamorous Munchie life until she gracelessly expires at a devastatingly young age from heart disease caused by shitty nutrition rather than her range of 'health issues' that only exist in her head.
No. 375844
>>375837Does she truly have asthma? The only asthma med she has is an albuterol inhaler. No other inhalers, no peak flow meter, no leukotriene inhibitors, no mention of spirometry and lung function tests.
Sage for asthma- and COPD-fag.
No. 375845
>>375805I'm surprised she wasn't given sumatriptans. It's not a narcotic and only $6 in Australia on a prescription. Take one and 20minutes later migraine gone. Magic. I have migraines and sumatriptan is a lifesaver.
And how are these spoonies even positing on Instagram in a migraine attack? When I get a migraine attack even looking at my screen makes me want to vomit and there's no way in hell im taking a selfie
No. 375859
>>375805"too young" does she think they leave kids/young people with cancer or arthritis or even kids with legitimate ehlers danlos syndrome with absolutely nothing for pain? When there is indications that there is real and actual pain and no risk of abusing medications they'll weigh up the vast variety of pain medications and give the most appropriate one. Too young? more like too obviously fake.
Sage for ranting
No. 375866
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>>375805Holy shit that cancerous emoji use
No. 375873
>>375863For severe/actual chiari patients there are services in Sydney, Melbourne and QLD, but I don't think there's anything in SA that really specialises, understands or treats Chiari/CCI especially if it's bullshit.
sage for unsure
No. 375896
>>375853You don't suddenly develop chiari and cervical instability. It's something that you're usually born with, and also it has symptoms other than a "migraine " you can smile and take selfies through. Also, if you just have the cervical instability, it often only requires PT to strengthen the muscles in the neck, not a fucking brace that further weakens those muscles. And a brace does little to nothing nothing for chiari, which is a malformation of the skull. Chiari itself doesn't automatically require treatment, in many cases monitoring is the best course of action. Surgery is only used in the most severe cases of either condition, neither of which she has.
Sage for medfagging
No. 375932
>>375603>>375603I was having trouble trying to explain what I was thinking but yes, you are right about the ED diagnosis.
>>375613She keeps bringing up her anorexia is slipping, to the point therapist is having to encourage her to have anything even though it's so hard being so sick.
That confuses me some. I feel like her therapist would be over aware of her health, and having seen her in pain,cry,look awful, etc and her general downward drop to over all health, shed have a much more reasonable approach to help her get help and feel better as well as being the spine when the Drs have turned her away or claim nothing is wrong.
It makes me wonder if her therapist believes it is 100% real or if it's a mixture of having some health issues, but are exaggerated or if it's all a hard lie or somatic etc.
Her therapist knows her personality and knows what to lookout for such as her malingering and manipulations (not been sly at all with that..bruised IV turns DVT, anorexia turns worst in state, punching wall turns bruised arm from passing out turns fractured turns nerve damage, black out turns 2nd degree burns turn 3rd, you know the story)
I am so anxious for her testings. I hope they get to the bottom of it, regardless what it is or is not, to help her at least feel a bit better some how.
Anyone else notice in some of her videos she has a kangaroo feed bag filled with water (I'm assuming..its clear) hanging on a plastic clip on the wall?
She's gotta be using it for something..id be surprised if that plastic clip would have help that much weight for so long (like if she hung it when she tubed herself a long time ago and just left it there)
No. 375936
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No. 375957
>>375859My fiancee is a paediatric pain management physician. I told her about the 'too young' issue (I don't ever encounter paediatric patients, save perhaps in emergencies, so I have no idea). According to her, 'too young' means, if the patient is an adolescent, that they feel s/he is after some secondary gain in looking for the medication or treatment. Or to put it more bluntly: s/he is a drug seeker or a Munchie. In those cases, there's some reluctance to administer narcotics, for one simple reason: if you suspect the patient is already after a morbid secondary gain, you do not want to give them another or reinforce it. Children who for some reason 'flee into treatment' (the adolescent version of Munchieing, which apparently is a lot more common, where children or adolescents seek a safe place and find that hospitals will give them the attention and catering for their needs that they crave) shouldn't be given narcotics as that'll just give them a bigger, more chemical incentive to stay medicalised when they already medicalise the shit out of their psychiatric/psychological distress.
Otherwise, paediatric pain management follows the same WHO ladder, get the same PCA drugs (on different settings) and especially in palliative care they get pretty high doses of pretty serious opioids (including fentanyl and hydromorphone).
There is one aspect of treatment that is indeed not given to young people because they're too young for it. Except in palliative care, irreversible ablative treatment is nor normally provided. Oddly, you don't see many of your spoonies go for that. I also haven't seen many of them with spinal cord pumps/stims. Odd…
No. 375962
>>375958It is a formula bag for tube feeds. I can't tell if it is a gravity bag or a if it goes to the pump and if I remember correctly (it's been a long time since I've worked with NG/G tubes for feeds) you can use the pump bags as gravity bags.
You can see the tubing hanging down from it but I couldn't get a clear picture of that part..it has clear fluid in it and that's a weak little plastic holder..shes brave doing it like that honestly..but if it is water I guess that's way better than formula bursting everywhere.
But..why does she have it?
She supposedly got rid of that stuff (pretty sure she meant throwing it in a corner for later)
Is she tubing herself again actually off camera? For water? Maybe that case of formula she swore she didnt have and couldnt afford?
Silly me, she won't drink because of her anorexia again, and it helps her keep fluid down with her special GP again!
>insert eye roll <She had to know it was hanging there in her videos….super surprised it hasn't been brought up at all.
No. 375974
>>375516That's correct, animals are NOT in danger. There's a reason why we don't hear about thousands of birds, cats, and dogs going blind in other parts of the world during solar eclipses. I believe it has the potential to cause damage, but animals are smarter than munchie girls and don't care to look up at the sun.
sage for ot
No. 375981
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On the note of bracing and Chiari, meet Emily Lou Jones from the picturesque People's Republic of Croydon. Emily suffers from a debilitating disease that makes it impossible for her to have photos taken of her without at least two (non-prescription) braces and her nasogastric tube (explain to me the benefit of an NG tube in her situation?!) in full frontal view. Emily is a DIY Munchie: because her doctors took one look at her and told her her joints are OK, she's just a little large, she went on and started shopping for every conceivable brace she could get, and a powerchair, which she has been using for three years (and you wonder why she can't walk… nobody who's been in a powerchair for three years and whose ligaments and muscles were stiffened by a set of BYOBraces will stand up and start walking - it takes serious long-term physio to get back there). She managed to get herself a feeding tube, and now fights doctors so she could insert her own, and eventually get a permanent one - which she is not getting, because there's nothing wrong with her digestion (evidenced by the fact that they pulled her PEG). And like every good Munchie, she decided this will be her life: "permanently wheelchair bound and tube fed warrior for life!" She speaks of her tube feeding and her wheelchair bound existence (totally voluntary, btw: at no point did she become suddenly unable to ambulate or stand, but rather decided that instead of physio and a pain management plan, she'll cry start tears until someone ponies up the money to get her a wheelchair). She has, of course, jumped on the POTS + CFS/ME + EDS bandwagon, and guess what she loves to talk about more than anything? Her health/disability! Including the 'wheelchair' drawing from that pathetic series of Carol Rossetti's "It took Lorena a long time to find her sensuality, and other bullshit stories with ethnically diverse female protagonists having a disability and/or an abortion" drawings. And of course if like her, you collect enough conditions, you end up having a related awareness week/month all around the year! Ain't that cool?
Top notch Munchie. A++++, would not friend again.
No. 376015
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Wait. Sepsis from what?
Lol another munchie still wasting a hospital bed
No. 376022
>>376000Seems to be her real face, if other photos are anything to go by. Eyes maybe slightly enlarged. The fuckery is mainly in the make-up.
Sage for useless garbage OT
No. 376028
>>376021This is what I work hard for…
This is where my tax money goes…
Munchies stroking dogs and pissing themselves with happiness over tubes,
No. 376033
>>375992What pisses me off about Munchies in electric wheelchairs: I stuff myself with insanely toxic medication and spend two hours a week getting even more toxic and ridiculously expensive medication injected into my veins so that I can hold off the disease that will, by the time I'm 35, probably leave me in a wheelchair. I'm 29, I already require a cane most days, so I'll be lucky if I make it to 35. I am, frankly, scared shitless.
To Munchies, on the other hand, it's like a fashion accessory. In my day job, I come across a lot of these EDS/GP Munchies, being a gastrofag. So a number of them have asked me to sign a paper in support of their application for a wheelchair (wheelchair services are notoriously strict and slow in the UK). Now, I'm not an orthopod and can't tell a humerus from a gluteus, so my usual response is 'give it to your orthopod'. At which point it turns out inevitably that the orthopod has told them to get bent. If you sign off on a lot of wheelchairs, the NHS Business Services people might look into why that is the case, so orthopods and rheumatologists need to act as strict gatekeepers of who will get wheelchairs, especially expensive electronic ones.
Typically, they then give me a half-assed justification about being too weak due to their GI problems (it wins them a referral to an EMG, if it comes back normal, I'll tell them I would see weakness if it were there, and go take it to your ortho), or - the best one so far - that because they're on >12 hour feeds or TPN (which is at best 10 hours - I don't know any exclusive TPN feeders who can accomplish their full 3 litres or so in less than 10 hours), they'll need the wheelchair to be able to hold the pump and the feeding bag. So I hand them a backpack that is designed to hold their bag and their pump. I've had some of them burst into tears at that point.
I get it, Ehlers-Danlos is a shitty disease. But by deconditioning your body and sitting on your ass all day, you harm your overall health. The only treatment for EDS that I think has a decent evidence base is to strengthen core and skeletal muscle to the point of it acting as a sort of stabiliser for the wonky joints. Most of the wheelchair-seekers don't know what living in one involves, they just see these Instagram 'spoonie stars' using one, and think that sitting in their wheelchair with a rapidly ballooning weight will somehow validate their own latent doubts as to the credibility of their faked illness. They don't realise the cardiovascular damage, they don't know what it'll do to the veins in their legs, etc. A friend told me about a girl insistent on how she couldn't walk due to her joint issues, arriving already in a rented wheelchair and wanting a powerchair, of course - because she barely has the strength to move the joystick, never mind push herself. She was >250lbs and wheezed just from trying to sit up, so definite DVT risk. My friend explained to her that she would need to be on daily injectable anticoagulants. She realised that means shots in her belly, every day, and they're not pleasant (she had them before briefly, I think). Suddenly somehow her interest in a wheelchair waned.
I sometimes really don't understand what's going on in the head of these people - and I meet them near daily.
(Nice blog) No. 376035
>>376015Month long hospital admissions are things that should not generally happen, definitely not for someone who is not in long term acute distress.
Few things get me as alert as patients who experience sudden emergent distress as soon as it's decided they can go home. I've seen this happen up to 4-5 times (!) with the same patient on the same admission, and it's a dreadfully bad sign. Usually, after the second, if it's even mildly suspicious, I will gently propose a psych referral.
No. 376066
>>376033No one gives a fuck about your journaling bullshit shut it
>>376058Just another fancy look I'm sick item, they are pretty cool for their intended uses but the spoonies have made it so I feel embarrassed I own one for its intended uses.
No. 376071
>>376033Please shut up about your disease that is so much worse than EDS, no one cares.
You're right that too many people ask for and get wheelchairs, but you're making your point look stupid with all the blogging. Gofuckmes for chairs are the most fucking irritating thing on earth, why does anyone donate? If you do
really need one you'll get one from the NHS.
And then there's Chloe Print Lambert and the movie chair her parents so enablingly coughed up for.
No. 376076
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I've been following this girl for a while and she gets on my nerves so bad. She doesn't have any real diagnosis' or illnesses. Once anyone gives her a suggestion she immediately shoots it down and calls them a dumbass. She has constant stomach pain and posts pictures of her bloated stomach and cries about gluten intolerance but keeps eating gluten. I can't stand it.
No. 376093
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Carmel is the worst when it comes to her attention seeking posts. Letting everyone know she "pooped today! Avoided an enema!"
No. 376098
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Yeah here you go. There's lots more too. She posts 5-6.. things a day it kills me. She cries in photos. She is THE MOST dramatic little bitch I've ever come across lol. I can not stand. She also went to be tested for EDS and claims of dislocated things all the time. But was doing flips today!!!!! And jumping in the air. So annoying. I'm in the spoonie community too, but I've actually been ill since I was a child so I'm not a faker. Hence how I follow her. And I've been watching this website for a while so it's quite interesting.
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No. 376103
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No. 376104
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She claims to have POTS too. But this isn't even high for a POTS patient. Give me a break. I'll show you high.
No. 376105
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She posts lots of pics of how many pills she takes. Of course
No. 376106
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Pathetic crying face
No. 376107
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No. 376108
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Last comment calling her out. She started deleting a lot of them!!! I'm pissed. I called her out a lot too. Obviously I'm not giving my insta away though. And someone apparently insta "bullied" her when really they just messaged her saying stop fuxkin complaining of GI issues when all you eat is SHIT
No. 376119
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Oh I found it's it. It's really comical. She can't even defend herself. One time I messaged her and asked her diagnosis' and she told me she had too much brain fog to remember everything LOL
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No. 376122
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No. 376123
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Can't even properly defend herself
No. 376127
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Sophie immobilizing the joint below her wrist. Is she still on her caravan holiday so she doesn't have her usual braces and bandages with her?
No. 376129
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Alexys aka Jonzie aka soap eater aka babybear photo
No. 376130
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>>376129Pic 1/2
(Oh and btw NOBODY was actually asking after her! Kek)!
No. 376132
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>>376129"I wanna purge through ma toob for mamabear snuggles"
No. 376133
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Complains of subluxations even though she didn't get the much wanted EDS diagnosis from the geneticist prior. But she always uses motorized carts and literally just lays in bed all day because of her "undiagnosed chronic pain and dislocations/subluxations"
No. 376135
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Because YES doing flips in the air would be COMPLETELY manageable for someone with chronic pain/fatigue and dislocations/subluxations like you claim lol. And it's even GOOD for it yep. Because that would really fucking help my EDS,doing a god damn back flip into the air, that wouldn't dislocate anything. She claims to dislocate going to the grocery store but not this???
No. 376137
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No. 376149
So, I saw this on a much loved spoonie's Instagram. And I was like… 'my doctor held me hostage? That's weird…'. So I went to watch (
https://youtu.be/HUlBTo3nJhY). The batshit insane is just, fantastic.
- Nasty doctor questions her being in a wheelchair despite being able to walk? SHITFLIP! Parents enable fine.
- Mom can't explain situation but tells ER doc to call her normal physician. ER doc says 'no time for that' - we don't normally have time for that in emergency care. Patients should be able to bring notes if they have a health issue they think we wouldn't understand.
- ALL OF THE DOCTORS KNOW WHO I AM!
- LAUGHING panic attack!
- Parents flip out when docs try to give her an antipsychotic to calm her the fuck down. "She's not psychotic!" Momma has a degree from the Medical College of Dumbass U.
- Demanding doctor call doctor in other town, again…
- "Swelling in her brain and spine"… err what?
- Doc apologises, but she's being a petulant cuntette.
- Recommends an airlift (!), she's totally gleeful how her egregious mistreatment by the doctors meant she didn't have to pay a dime for the airlift… her arrogance is disgusting.
- Turns out her SOB was a sfx of CellCept… the moron went to ER, then had to be airlifted, when she could just have read the fucking drug information sheet!
Over to the other annoying girl, who is complete batshit. I kinda stopped watching here because I was reaching dangerous levels of blood pressure, but… honestly. What the fuck.
And guess what her big-ass health issue is? Conversion disorder.
No. 376151
>>3761331) it's called your foot falling asleep
2) if your hip is even just subluxated you won't just sit there. Most of these people who claim EDS or hypermobility have no idea.
3) I bet her Snapchat friends don't even look at her stories anymore.
No. 376166
>>376151I fucking love the casual 'oh, my hip subluxed/dislocated' stories. Reminds me of the young female I once saw in an A&E (I was a patient) - she was in the bay next to me, so I overheard most things. H/o EDS + POTS of fucking course, pt lucid, GCS 15, oriented X3, claims pain 8 but laughing and chatting and breathing normally, normal HR and BP. She WALKED into the A&E and she sat with her knees pulled up halfway and spread. The A&E doc looked at her, listened to her story, and said:
Doc: So, can you hear that screaming?
Girl: Uh, yes?
Doc: That's a guy from the RTA up on the M40 who dislocated his hip. We've got him on Entonox and it's barely touching it.
Girl: [silence]
Seriously, EDS folks have the shit explanation that because their ligaments are loose, they do not feel as much pain in a dislocation, but there's no evidence for that - a lot of the pain is actually not from the ligaments but from the dislocation itself, so even without ligament tears a dislocation is pretty nasty.
I swear, some people…. :/
No. 376189
>>376186"Inspirational soap"
Kill me now.
No. 376198
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cant decide if shes going to sperg out and cry h8ers or just delete the comments. 1/2
No. 376219
Is there a term for the romantic partners who become the unwitting codependent caretakers of munchies?
Although in Twisted Sophie's case, she appears to have met her boyfriend-cum-caretaker in a healthcare setting.
In an open letter to her boyfriend, she writes:
"I give you myself. The half that needed you to make me whole.
This chronic pain journey has been a rough one. But if it’s given me anything, it’s you. Without my pain I wouldn’t have met you.
So thank you, chronic pain, for allowing me to meet the man I needed to make all of this agony worth it."
https://themighty.com/2017/05/boyfriend-caretaker-thank-you-letter/ No. 376231
>>376229I hate the Mighty. Fuck off with "I wish you understood my illness" baloney. Just get on with your life.
Also, most of the articles are written badly - average grammar and they often don't get to the point for ages.
No. 376233
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She didn't have much to back up lol
No. 376236
>>376129Has she brought the beanie back instead of the epilepsy helmet - no mention of the epilepsy so maybe she realized it was too hard to fake 100 illnesses at once. But always the beanie to make sure we look like a sick cancer patient. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it was an old photo and she is making up a bunch of stuff. And who always takes these ridiculous posed photos.
Of course we should mention her doctors are used to treating super severe malnourished people - they gained all their experience from her
Also she always says she is "in hospital" - she is from the US, where people say "the hospital" but she copies the lingo from around the globe
>>376130And I always find it suspicious that she gets very specific about some things (feed rates) but then super vague about others - I am getting "certain medications, vitamins, minerals, and electrolytes via NJ".
>>376131"It's early on in my stay" - probably planning to do all she can to stay as long as possible. Also make sure everyone knows she is at the children's hospital.
No. 376261
>>376233Thank god, somebody is finally calling her out AND calling the EDS Society out (as an eds patient it's so obvious they're full of shit and run by people like carmel)
Sage for non contributing/blogging
No. 376268
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"You don't know my pain! You can't take away my positivity!" Carmel exclaims to the person who has vEDS.
No. 376271
>>376269well since eating disorders are so 2009 its no longer in fashion to call it that. gastroparesis is the new hotness. why bother with eating anymore when it can slide down a tube for you. but why stop there when you can get a gj and purge some solids if you miss a tasty reuben.
sage for dumb
No. 376272
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>>376268Carmel's gonna have a legit psych break down now lel
No. 376273
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>>376272"Muh low potassium!"
Yes from purging Carmel. You want to alter your obs by vomiting & you want to lose the 3kg so you can get your tube. If your situation was as dire as you pretend you would be emaciated by now.
No. 376274
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No. 376282
>>376279its so wild. with munchies, its like there doesnt even need to be actual proof. like realistic scientific proof that something is really wrong with them. they soak up each others stories regardless of plot holes, i think, because they are so focused on their own narrative, that they cant see through the shit and see how fucked it all sound when the pieces dont all fit.
its been said before, the bulk of these dxs that are being sought out are easy enough to fake so bam, minimal work, glam dx. and some dont even bother with an actual dx. they brazenly say they are self diagnosed.
so grab some medical accessories off the internet or the various prescriptions and vitamins and away you go. take a bunch of photos and caption with sob stories and pepper in how strong you are though that you are still living through it all through the grace of god and they all eat it up.
No. 376286
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>>376236She's not the only one trying to expand her vocab with special and "wordly" words she hasn't before used.
No. 376296
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It gets better. She was swallowing these giant pills on July 15 but admitted to hospital on August 3 due to her sooper serious malnutrition and not able to swallow anything other purée??!!!
No. 376301
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Anyone else imagining Carmel sitting there and counting her 59 symptoms?!
No. 376302
>>376294"I never gave up" Never gave up trying to reach that sweet sweet fake diagnosis so she could beg the government for money to be lazy.
In Australia people with legitimate EDS of any type are given Disability Pension, IF they can give sufficient evidence of the functional impacts of the disease, which prevents them from working full time. It's actually extremely easy for barely even sick people to get DSP, so if centrelink's doctors, psychologists or anybody thought she was even remotely sick, she'd have the payment.
She's in australia, where we have a public health system why the hell does she need a gofuxme anyway.
sage for rage
No. 376303
>>376301"tests included blood, urine"
poor fucking little shit munchie faker had to get pokey poked in her widdle arm and make pee pee in a cup. so tragic. so near death.
No. 376316
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Interesting about her whole family being sick. It's just "normal" for her.
No. 376317
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What I'd like to know is why she has conditions listed as "undiagnosed" in her bio. I guess that means she's decided she has mast cell, autism, sensory processing disorder, and endometriosis, but she hasn't been successful in finding doctors who will grant her those diagnoses?
No. 376319
>>376315ASD = autism spectrum disorder
>>376316Classic way that munchies start - someone in the family being sick and craving that attention.
No. 376369
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>>376129I AM STILL
IN A DREAM
SOAP EAAAAAAAATERRRRRRRRRRRRR
No. 376419
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Just when you thought you've seen it all: beauty pageant with obscenely visible G-tube and Farrell bag. Because GP is much more acceptable than anorexia,
No. 376420
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And some more whining from the same cow… didn't you know death has knocked on her door many a time? #fuckoff
No. 376430
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Lel Carmel pretending she suddenly hates the hospital. Also for someone who "doesn't have an eating disorder" and "needs all the calories she can get" why is she drinking a Powerade Zero?
Munchausens/eating disorder/trying to lose weight for a tube is very obvious Carmel.
No. 376433
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>>375853Ironic you say that considering she's gone and likes this seemingly real spoonies post regarding her latest neck surgery. I've noticed a lot of Carmel's posts mimicking this girls experience…
No. 376453
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>>376369bless anon
>>376430in her post, she mentions that her blood pressure was low, 80/50, and hr was high, over 9000, so that coupled with the low potassium seems to be a good indicator of dehydration or purging to me, but im not medfag. i know thats been speculation for awhile but shes throwing out numbers and she clearly isnt eating much but fudging results when she can to be in the hospital for almost a month with NO FUCKING DX.
>>376450exactly!! and all those ass kissers not even understanding those awful mean bad commenters feel real legit pain not those ghost 8/10 instagram worthy hip dislocation pains. fucking trash
No. 376456
>>376455its very punchable. but poor widdle carmel is shaken up by the chronic illness realness from last night. she actually looks less aly manic in her photo
>>376430 compared to the others. still grinning like a maniac. but you can definitely see that she got a dose of reality
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No. 376514
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That thread from Jaquie's 8/18 vid is still going strong
maybe one of the mods is getting sick of her shit, too
No. 376521
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I give thee… @pinkglitterykisses.
- Totally functional intestinal failure, check.
- TPN fed despite an intact GI tract, check.
- Names her tubes, check.
- Every medication, however mundane, has to be photographed (seriously? fexo?!)
- Wheelchair for no discernible reason, check.
Winneeerrrr!
No. 376553
>>376058They were designed for air pollution, so if you have asthma and there's a high pollution day, they make sense.
I can't say I understand them in a hospital setting. Maybe to minimize people's perfumes in the hallway, but why would you use a $32 mask for that when you can use a 3M disposable one that won't bring germs home?
No. 376559
>>376555im tempted to go back. i mean it wasnt bullying. the two main people texting back and forth with here were bringing up valid points and the one had veds and carmel wants to sit there and say that she has no idea what chronic pain is like.
overall it was people pointing out plot holes and her floundering. again, notice the less than manic grin on her face as she so ~bravely~ shovels puree down her now functioning esophagus
No. 376564
>>376553They were also designed to filter the wearer's breath, to eliminate the spread of germs from a sick wearer (hence the carbon filter output valve that filters much more than the mask itself).
They would be really useful for illness prevention if these people would sew a carbon filter layer into the inside of the vog masks which would filter smaller particles of what they
breathe in (I know of ONE of these spoonies who was bright enough to do that), but most of them are too lazy to do that and don't actually care that the masks don't work because "look at me, I am sooper speshul sick and have to wear a mask!"
No. 376665
>>376652Harrassed? I don't think sending mean messages to you on Instagram constitutes harassment.
Spoonies really lack perspective. It's an IG community of board emotional teenagers desperate for drama. I have no clue what kind of crap goes on in spoonie world, but we all know it's petty.
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1/2
No. 376684
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2/2 not everyone is buying it with Carmel.
No. 376688
>>376261god i hate the eds society. thought i was the only one
>>376441the new criteria seems to be bullshit to me, tbh. but i could rant about that for hours
No. 376689
>>376683Not whte-knighting, but the glottalization (i.e. swallowing) of the interstitial double "tt"s in front of an "n" is a pretty prevalent thing across American dialects, and doesn't reflect on the level of education of the individual.
Find something else to focus on, like her upspeak.
No. 376710
>>376683She was practically giddy when telling the camera what an
emotionally draining day she had.
Judd looks like he wants to die every time she mentions venting/draining.
No. 376734
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>I'm allergic to my own tears
Are you fucking kidding me
No. 376743
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>>376734>I choke and swell up when I cry>Conclusion: I'm allergic to my own tears.Imagine being so socially isolated that you've never seen another person cry before.
No. 376746
>>376365No; she's gone all quiet since she got her nose hose returned!
She knows she has psychosomatic vomiting and also that her seizures are psychogenic (psychological) in nature. These apparently got worse when her feeds were stopped and she needed to goto A & E several times each week for 'flares'
The 'flares' seem to have magically reduced now she has her sooper speshul nose hose back.
She seems to have some insight into her problems but not enough to stop going to A & E so frequently with psychological issues, none of which are either an accident, or an emergency.
No. 376753
>>376749Depends how "good" you are. You only absorb nutrients when your food gets digested. Your stomach doesn't digest food, that's the job of the small intestine. If you're quick and thorough you'll at least maintain, if not even lose depending on other factors.
/ana-chan
No. 376763
Given that Jacqui can eat small bits and pieces of relatively demanding food, I see no reason why she could not have done a long term trial of high calorie oral nutrition (Ensure shakes, etc). I get it, they taste like shit, but she doesn't seem to realize the long term damage she's doing to herself and her intestines and her life and her everything.
Most nutritional formula is designed to be nutritionally complete so in general, you aren't supposed to eat anything else. As for her tolerating only a low rate, that seems to be pure symptom borrowing. I wonder if her endgame is that sweet, sweet TPN (we have seen that money is apparently no object when Jacqui wants some Munchie toys!). There are people whose plans are designed to provide supplemental nutrition (typically, these people have cancer or CF), but for a FGID, it's rather odd that she's eating normal food at the same time. Especially if she indeed does have a functional stomach motility issue and perhaps some mild intestinal involvement, giving her stomach a complete rest for a few months might be beneficial,
Bottom line, stop pigging, you stupid Munchie fuck! Also, as explained… a G/J button is very bad for purging.
No. 376786
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1/6 of Jacqui from FB
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No. 376788
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3/6 sorry for the sloppy editing, was doing it really fast!
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No. 376802
>>376793>lol doc says dont binge how silly!yea cus he knows you are. we all know you are. and now youre gonna have a harder time purging that food out. god its disgusting
>>376762ty for pulling through anon! was waiting all day
No. 376806
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Please teach me how to be a better munchie.
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No. 376831
>>376763Trying to think of Jaquie as someone other than a person I detest, it is quite scary how an undiagnosed eating disorder can run you into the ground (especially yonewhen you're a munchie fuck)
but I still hope she gets what's coming to her after pulling all this malicious BS on everyone in her life.
No. 376833
>>376763Trying to think of Jaquie as someone other than a person I detest, it is quite scary how an undiagnosed eating disorder can run you into the ground (especially when you're a munchie fuck)
but I still hope she gets what's coming to her after pulling all this malicious BS on everyone in her life.>>376831
No. 376883
File: 1503368083389.jpg (1.05 MB, 796x3092, Screenshot_20170821-210245.jpg)
"Wouldn't make it to my 16th"
I still just love that she was begging to continue treatment hopping because she was going to die without it. I mean it was so serious that her dr said she may need dialysis for her super special failing kidneys due to the most special-ist serious ED ever but insurance refused to pay for a hospitalization.
But she managed to be fine..what a mystery.
She needs to share how she magically cured her failing kidneys without medical intervention. Millions of people would benieft from the cure!
Also..not sure the proper word to use for her photoshopping skills here.
No. 376898
File: 1503369913815.jpg (983.57 KB, 2896x2896, 20170821_211652.jpg)
No. 376901
>>376883man, her granny face must really be getting to her. lol the insecurities sure show through in those photoshop skills.
shame because
>>376898 in that black and white dress, she could really pass off as some kind of professional of some sort. but unfortunately, shes forever the ana mindset of recovery but still want to be a child.
No. 376906
>>376901Yah
This is a possibly crass post for some, sorry in advance
these pictures just scream a young grade school teacher and devoted religious life style. Nothing wrong with either of those but at least she looks better than she ever has (I've known her for a long time) and seems to have decided to be something vs special ED that almost killed her dozens of times of course.(at least for now).shes still full of herself, ott, and an arrogant munchie (extremely obvious..she follows a lot of illness pages and in treatment she was awful by hurting others she was jealous of and in my case asking a million questions about my health problems so she could try to fake them when in hot water) but maybe this new life will do wonders for her, but I just have a feeling she's going to be in and out of treatment (hopefully not literally treatment hopping again) well into her 50s and 60s and/or her munchie side will grow and she will hop on the trendy illness train.
She spent so much time in treatment that she is so far behind in real life. I think when she fully realizes what she did it will be the start of her spiral downhill and get in a mess with more than just an ED (SH,alcohol/drugs,sex) , and unfortunately I fear she will opt for suicide. She's had a few "attempts" (as in- being bored and upset she was discharged and has to spend a week in cali for a mini vacation to take up time before a bed opened up in another IP facility, or having to be home a few days in critical condition known as attention deficiency requiring a bottle of baby Motrin..) I sincerely hope she doesn't go that pathway, and she proves us wrong and actually becomes a proper member of society..but with as much time she lost being locked up, it's going to be a rocky road.
I suck at shortening what I say, apologies.
No. 376924
>>376915Word. I get the same creep-out reaction and can't stand to look at her wide-ass maw.
>>376917Where the fuck do you think you are?!
No. 376959
>>376944>>376921>>376917I think you need to read it again..because if you had you'd see that she wasn't originally posted because of her appearance minutes ago. In fact, it's posted because it is the latest milk on her and she has been asked about.
Some of the appearance replies are rough but honestly people have been SO SO much more brutal on appearances than this on this site.
It's noticeable you decided to look over the purpose of the posts and latch on the appearance replies. Selective "reading"
That makes it seem you are being "fucked up" since that's all you took from the posts..
And several mentioned she is looking better even with the editings..thats not being mean.
She is a munchie
She is a bit more low key with it specially social media,(MBI) but IRL in general and ip, she is not low key about it at all.
No. 376963
File: 1503377922160.png (208.9 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_3032.PNG)
Carmel just explaining to a follower that she is partiently waiting for her tube. She's so fucking stupid because she doesn't even hide her plans to eat less, lose weight and get the tube. She's not very intelligent which doesn't help.
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No. 377018
File: 1503391354578.png (290.83 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_3034.PNG)
Carmel is finally no longer wasting health resources and a hospital bed! She was awaiting mannomety results but I assume from her post that the were normal kek.
In a previous post, she told one person she can only eat half her daily intake and the next comment, it was 30-40%. She absolutely ignored the questions as to why she can fucking drink her calories. Oh no, she did say "muh nausea and bloating".
No. 377028
>>377018knowing carmel those mixed emotions were definitely because the results were normal. so no immediate rush to get her super serious toobie in. poor thing.
>>377024nah i think she will continue, maybe for awhile she will calm down but my bets are certainly placed that she will continue to starve and beg her way to a precious feeding accessory.
No. 377037
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>>376786Now she says she has an AMT button not a Mic-Key.
No. 377044
File: 1503399632613.jpg (308.65 KB, 750x1334, IMG_7199.JPG)
>>377028And older post from Carmel… she's so desperate she doesn't realise how much she's spelling her eating disorder out - how does she know she's only eating 300 calories unless she's somehow counting them and making sure? Hmmm! And her mum putting a tube in fucking lol!!!!
No. 377072
>>377046people can get GJ's without a gastric emptying study, malnutrition (!), weight loss or literally any tests to prove anything other than bulimia.
It's fucked, but it happens here as well, so she won't have much trouble getting her beloved nose hose, or she'll buy it on ebay and end up inserting it wrong and aspirating into her lungs kek.
No. 377076
File: 1503409267413.png (174.7 KB, 713x600, IMG_0166.PNG)
Awww JBN super proud of herself for not "needing" A&E for a whole fucking month. Gold star for you #supertubie
No. 377077
File: 1503409445538.png (334.92 KB, 736x1078, IMG_0167.PNG)
JBN bragging about her uhmazing charity work again. Fuck off Nicole we all know you do this to promote yourself not the fucking charities. If you gave a damn you'd donate more than £4 worth of fucking food and you wouldn't run to IG to post every donation you make.
No. 377079
File: 1503409661207.png (179.61 KB, 750x1077, IMG_5295.PNG)
Carmel fished for Addisons but failed
No. 377080
File: 1503409718430.png (212.46 KB, 750x1090, IMG_5296.PNG)
Also apparently requires(d) a cpap for sleep?!
No. 377083
File: 1503409854835.png (178.07 KB, 712x889, IMG_5294.PNG)
And also, of course, sees a naturopath filling her head with loads of bullshit like swelling in her brain and convincing her to detox to cleanse the supa serious toxins from her body
No. 377087
File: 1503410176713.png (289.89 KB, 742x1071, IMG_5297.PNG)
Also since when is prescribing doxycycline risky for a doctor? Want to protect your medical license? Put it down for Carmels acne. Not her imaginary Lyme disease her naturopath claims.
Also Lyme isn't agknowledged in Australia and I don't know how or where she is going for testing. But any medfags are free to full that in.
No. 377091
>>377087Any lab in australia can test for lyme (especially if you've been overseas during/immediately before onset of symptoms.
Usually these tests are negative and they then spend $100s to send their blood to the US bc it was a "false negative" then they get that sweet sweet lyme diagnosis, gofuckme tens of thousands to go to some shifty treatment centre in cyprus but spend most of that money on a london holiday.
They're then magically cured and can suddenly go on 5k runs and eat and drink and no longer have gastroparesis + vomiting 20 times a day (see @daisysperspective for an example.)
No. 377093
File: 1503411180516.png (283.85 KB, 750x986, IMG_5299.PNG)
Prayed to every god that is was Lyme so she wouldn't die.
Also she mentions treatment making her sick but mentions it being Doxy? That shits tame as fuck.
No. 377106
>>377093i imagine doctors would be a bit put off if a patient came in saying they are presenting with 40+ symptoms.
she says lyme rage, i say a personality disorder. what an attention seeking little leech. shes intense. robyn is always my munchie choice #1 but i think carmel is coming in close second.
No. 377139
File: 1503417791552.png (113 KB, 640x1136, IMG_0650.PNG)
>>377093Oh, Carmel. At least pick a disease you could have actually gotten.
No. 377147
>>377146I don't know what I did wrong with the spoiler image on that last post but it's not there. Sorry.
Sage for stupidity.
No. 377178
>>377168Btw, my favourite Munchies are the patients who tell me they have 'neurogastrointestinal Lyme syndrome'. I normally politely ask them if they could help me as I can't find it in the ICD-10. Usually, I get a rant about pharma companies and vaccines, so I ask them if they then prefer their endoscopy done by an unvaccinated doctor and without midazolam and the lidocaine spray in the throat. Man, the weather tends to change when they hear that.
Sage for medfagging..
No. 377183
>>377074As far as I'm aware, nose hoses are 'by order' nursing interventions, meaning even a LNP or PA can only do it on the express order of a licensed physician who must have examined and consented the patient first. So normally, tubing your child would be a career-ender for her, and rightly so. There is so much that can go wrong and I never let a nurse insert a G-tube without being in the room. GJ tubes, on the other hand, can only be inserted endoscopically, and that's the tube she needs if she really has a medical need, rather than just wants a nose hose for photos (is she going to a beauty pageant by any chance?). So unless mom has an endoscope at home and is scope qualified, which I haven't seen in an ICU nurse in, like, ever, this will be fun.
No. 377209
File: 1503427567903.png (3 MB, 1536x2048, IMG_3036.PNG)
Oh lookie.
No. 377246
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No. 377249
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>>377246Still got the portacath hanging out even when it's not in use!
Suppose she won't get speshul spoonie points if it's tucked away like most normal people!
No. 377257
File: 1503432191439.jpg (52.87 KB, 540x540, IMG_3289.JPG)
>>376523OTC peppermint IBS capsules
No. 377267
>>377093Sounds like the tests were all inconclusive and she thought "well that doesn't mean I don't have it, so let's go with I do have it".
Kek how she explains treatment will make her Lyme go away BUT DONT FORGET I STILL HAVE 4 OTHER CHRONIC ILLNESSES
No. 377279
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No. 377286
File: 1503435316215.png (191.59 KB, 750x1069, IMG_2142.PNG)
>>377282Had to check out wheelchair_doc and now I'm wondering what makes them a doctor? Plus that long diagnosis list ending in "etc" screams munchie
No. 377300
>>377286seems as though she is a legit medical dr- she did a biomed engineering degree then went on to medicine. Her website mentions her being on residency during 2012, although she took a leave of absence which seems to be where her munchie-ism started.
Either that or she is just really incredibly unlucky. (kek as if)
No. 377374
File: 1503439835833.png (56.26 KB, 331x541, IMG_2508.PNG)
>>377077That time when she had a NP airway for
her 'endless seizures'
She forgot to add the psychogenic part!
No. 377384
>>377077It would be better if she did something extra special to raise awareness! Donning the same sash and writing the name of the charity on some piece of scrap paper isn't really raising massive quantities of awareness.
Why doesn't she stick to a few close to her heart charities and do something amazing? There are some amazing challenge/endurance events available and none of them involve nose hoses, cheap felt tips, scrap paper and a sash given purely for taking part!
No. 377399
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No. 377400
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No. 377402
>>377286Ok, so we've got autism and NMO and EDS and CCI and GP. NMO is autoimmune, autism is weird, EDS is congenital, GP is not autoimmune unless AAG, and CCI may be an EDS sequela.
The likelihood of someone having a relatively rare neuroimmune disorder, a congenital collagen disorder, a congenital neuro developmental disorder and a neurogastroenterological disorder all together is minimal. Each of these conditons is fairly rare, and somehow even someone with a DO (from what fucking university, dear God?) should figure out that all of this because of various and etiologically divergent causes is highly unlikely.
On the other hand, guess what explains most of it? Benign hypermobility and conversion disorder.
Or Munchies.
No. 377405
File: 1503441400351.png (993.5 KB, 750x1334, IMG_5152.PNG)
Note that the tube is WAY too long to be an nj…. totally is a ng
No. 377408
>>377385I was totally convinced I had cancer during M2.
To be fair, I did have cancer.
Cue all my classmates shit scared that their med student's hypochondria conditions are going to be real, too!
No. 377460
>>377279"self caths herself"
Something no doctor would ever write. I'll let you figure out why.
Here's what I think the tenor of that report was, as opposed to how crazy cripplepunk girl perceived it: "patient looks like a medical equipment collector… I don't want to give her a piece of expensive hardware to inject into her spine the same substance that, at the highest oral or xd dose she could tolerate, isn't helping her below an 8 according to her own position". Doctors have an interest in successfully treating you and no interest at all in putting a hugely expensive intrathecal opioid/conotoxin pump in someone who is on Medicaid, will still be unemployed regardless of the incremental change in pain levels and looks like she has made being sick her primary profession.
No. 377476
>>377452Let me give you a more sympathetic take on her, after reading her blog etc. Med school is hell, internship even more so. And you basically agree to be tormented for a decade before you can start raking in the benefits. There were days during residency I did not see my wife for days and we worked at the same hospital! So it's hard on many, and makes many think twice. Is this what I want? Am I going to take a decade more of this?
So she might have opted, perhaps not even entirely consciously, to give herself a graceful way out and declare herself to be too sick to continue in medicine. At the same time, since she finished med school, she is, technically, a doctor, and gets to prance around in that role, even though she has basically zero clinical practical experience that would underpin what she's saying. Her life is a list of weird accidents: born with autism, TBI @ 19, EDS, NMO, etc. - a lot of improbable conditions that together are even less likely, and realistically more a consequence of overly relying on Hiccam's Razor ('patients will have as many conditions as they'll damn well please') and a lack of sane diagnostic parsimony. But they're a great out for her - she's still a doctor, after all, and among Munchies, a fellow Munchie doctor is like solid gold - someone who gives them all the belief and support that they could ever wish for!
Too bad, because she could have been saving lives, even if she wasn't the best of the best. There is, and always will be, a need for mid-range doctors (keeps me in a job!). But no… instead of being a servant in heaven, she chose to be a king in Munchie hell.
No. 377486
File: 1503446503379.png (1.51 MB, 800x1169, Screenshot_2017-08-22-16-32-23…)
As long as she can still operate the remote and play computer games.
No. 377497
>>377386You have access to what has always been her personal IG - thanks for sharing!
>>377400This looks like a stock photo. The angle taken is odd and looks very "textbook photo". Plus the sheets don't match the ones in her other photos and the IV site is different. "My infusions" and "special life in a syringe" is just so vague. But remember she is the sickest of all the spoonies.
>>377454 - Trying to look like a sick little cancer patient is her typical MO
>>377435 - Because she wants everyone to think she is a sick little girl. She has always tried to use and abuse all the services meant for actual sick children. My questions is what adult is taking pictures of her playing with a children's toy like this. I would be embarrassed to be seen with her pretending she is 2 and not a 20-something. and how is she getting away with still being in the children's hospital after the last debacle (I am not convinced she isn't make this whole thing up and using old photos)
No. 377538
>>377405I'd bet my last $5 that it's an NG tube and she's just been admitted for the same old thing.
Noticed that she's changed her bio to "tubie" which says it all really.
No. 377545
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Chloe's seen a speshul doctor who's given her lots of validation. Lucky for her, he also indulges in her favourite hobby - criticising the NHS and her treatment. Not amazingly common for a reputable, respected doctor to do that, so I can only imagine who it was she saw…! He sounds like a money grabbing private doctor ad the tests are only available privately.
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No. 377561
File: 1503451262780.png (Spoiler Image,137.24 KB, 750x1088, IMG_1712.PNG)
I posted earlier about her and how I can not stand this chick and she just keeps getting worse. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE CALL HER OUT???? I have more pics to come. She is insufferable
No. 377562
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No. 377564
File: 1503451395706.png (Spoiler Image,293.86 KB, 750x1028, IMG_1714.PNG)
I can not take the attention seeking bullfuckery. If you kno what u aren't supposed to eat DONT EAT IT! And she doesn't even have like any real fucking diagnosis'. All her posts are negative.
No. 377625
File: 1503457393503.jpg (1.15 MB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20170822-204141.jpg)
This chick has less than 60 followers, so I blocked her name, but this is the munchiest shit I've ever seen on my personal feed.
No. 377631
>>377545I hate when munchies say they were unconscious…NO, you were fucking asleep probably from all the fucking drugs you've begged for and load up on whenever you please.
Sage for wanting to slap every munchie
No. 377647
File: 1503459645624.png (224.82 KB, 750x1183, IMG_2154.PNG)
Thoughts on this one?? Came across her insta and noticed she posts pic from Snapchat, which the munchies I know IRL always do…but could just be a coincidence. Anywho she's not too OTT (I think?), but the hashtags OMG
No. 377650
File: 1503459794747.png (180.44 KB, 750x1116, IMG_2155.PNG)
Vog mask? Check!
Neck brace? Check!
No. 377652
File: 1503460080646.png (Spoiler Image,171.71 KB, 750x1073, IMG_2157.PNG)
In case you're interested…,
No. 377654
File: 1503460308943.png (Spoiler Image,237.66 KB, 750x1139, IMG_2158.PNG)
I'm sorry, but it seems your snapchat filter didn't work this time, your face just looks normal. It seems your double chin is showing though.
No. 377659
File: 1503460665632.png (Spoiler Image,166.44 KB, 750x1080, IMG_2159.PNG)
Omg fail. That's the fibula actually.
No. 377661
File: 1503460760370.png (144.92 KB, 747x1017, IMG_2160.PNG)
The comments haha
No. 377662
File: 1503460868833.png (212.27 KB, 750x1133, IMG_2161.PNG)
Woah sharing fellow munchies
No. 377668
File: 1503461322147.png (215.35 KB, 750x1114, IMG_2162.PNG)
fyi
No. 377673
>>377640In some of her older IG posts she seems to have some level of personality. She would actually make allusions to having a life beyond being a munchie. She was also surprisingly active which is hilarious as she needs a grandma walker to go to the pisser now.
She really went fully delusional in record time. It's bizarre. Her posts from ~8 months ago seem really lucid. She seemed really normal.
Some people are just born to be munchies I guess.
No. 377674
File: 1503462296804.png (139.68 KB, 750x1074, IMG_2163.PNG)
"#servicedog" when in another post she said: HE IS NOT A SERVICE DOG.
PS, this is the girl with the port between her boobs in case you're wondering lol. She also made that poop post
No. 377683
File: 1503462806254.png (245.83 KB, 750x1077, IMG_2164.PNG)
Aww look at her owie
No. 377690
File: 1503463686276.png (152.72 KB, 749x1160, IMG_2166.PNG)
Another one that sounds like they're trying to hide their ED under a pile of self-dx
No. 377691
>>377640I was just going to ask if anyone had noticed she was searching for the eclipse. She mentioned that it just must not have happened in her area.
I am still stunned at how simply stupid some people are.
No. 377704
>>377690 not WKing at ALL, but she does have a really shit case of anorexia but seems to enjoy all her medical toys and hospitalizations, documenting everything meticulously. i followed her for awhile for the sheer milk of everything prior to finding this forum, and contemplated posting her here several times. if you go back far enough she has full body pictures and is deathly ana-skinny, has been admitted for sepsis several times, has tubes, etc. but seems to follow typical munchie behavior, ie vog masks, naming medical devices, bringing toys into the hospital, numerous doctors, shit like that. quite an interesting one. reluctant to take pain medication but claims to be 10/10 at all times.
definitely check out underweight_spoonie and spoonie_from_serbia. magdalena was featured in a post a few up, they're identical twins who were up until now diagnosed, not quite sure now munchie they are but they're definitely OTT. had to stop following them when i transitioned from spoonie to regular account because it was just too much and i needed to cut the cord from spoonies entirely.
No. 377711
>>377704They are 100% anorexic and so is happy guts. I've reported hg's pictures in the past and I know others who have too but Instagram never does anything and she bitches about it, so why bother. She pisses me off so much. Why not just admit you have an eating disorder rather than a physical issue?
That's how I feel about Jaquie and chloeschronicles too. Jaquie's spiral makes way more sense if you think of it as a desperate need for control (I know that's not all that EDs are, reformed anachan here, but it's often part of it) and a morphing from conventional purging into munchieism. I wonder if she got caught in bulimic behaviors and this was her out? "Oh no, I'm vomming because I'm SO SICK." Chloe Leanne is clearly an anorexic with conversion symptoms at most. The worst thing about both of them is how they're bleeding their fans dryer than Kelly is the blood banks of Canada. I don't know how they can sleep at night, either of them.
No. 377741
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Finally getting what she wanted! How I don't know. Lol but she thinks that'll be her last pic with nose hose…unless they leave it in till she's recovered from her surgery.
I'm so fucking angry that they just get whatever they want like this just for fun
No. 377767
File: 1503473731791.png (187.06 KB, 750x1202, IMG_2173.PNG)
>>377722Yeah can't claim they don't have EDs and then post body pics like this..
No. 377774
File: 1503474490718.png (148.21 KB, 750x1226, IMG_2174.PNG)
How did she take a picture in the ambulance if she was convulsing and experiencing auras (at the same time)???
No. 377776
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She's still confused yet posting on IG……. definitely OTT, every time she has a migraine she says it's the worst attack she's had, every.single.time.
No. 377853
File: 1503488153447.png (69.18 KB, 671x320, IMG_1477.PNG)
because someone with vEDS is gonna look up to this smirking ugly waste of space?
No. 377854
>>377853"Strong and positive"
The only positive thing about Carmel is her positive attitude towards getting a tube.
No. 377858
>>377814Realistically speaking, there aren't many medical mysteries. I work at a tertiary referral hospital for, among others, gastro. So we get the people who show either unusual symptoms or inconsistent symptoms there are only a few ways to really be a 'mystery': novel contagious diseases, the rare hitherto unknown genetic disorder or the sick patient who has no subjective issues but a vast range of objective complaints that point into all directions. The last group are inevitably Munchies.
In my field, I've maybe seen two new conditions that weren't solidly known to us when we went to med school (a decade and a bit ago). They don't just appear in otherwise healthy young women who show all signs of histrionic personality disorder and an obsession with their illness. They're not medical mysteries, they're instances of a widely documented phenomenon - health hysteria and good ole' FII.
TL;DR: if I find bacteria from your poop in your line culture, you're not a medical mystery, you're a sick fuck who is injecting her own shit into her IV line so that we can risk future populations and spend vast amount of money treating it with abx of last resort and hugely expensive novel antibiotics. Your fellow insurance policy payers thank you for your rising premiums.
Because let's get it straight: every unnecessary wheelchair, tube, line or day in hospital means either a premium increase or someone being denied the care they need. Do they care? Fuck they do.
No. 377866
>>377853Jealous, haha. I mean, having survived leukemia then gone on to finish med school and practice full time, I'm bursting with jealousy about a girl who bravely endures a self inflicted hospital stay to get the toys to keep up with the other spoonies. Jealous as fuck.
I don't get how these people see themselves as heroes. I mean, there was nothing heroic about me getting sick and then getting better, it's what everyone would have done, and there's nothing heroic in their big-ass struggle that they themselves ought to know is largely fictitious. I sometimes feel they're the offshoots of this stupid heroising of sickness we started with shit like 'cancer warriors' and 'fighting cancer' and all that. When you're sick, you get treatment and you try to survive it. There is no big time for a heroic choice, to decide whether to run into the burning building or not. I get that little kids with big grown-up diseases may benefit from the rhetoric, but it's given us this bunch of Munchie shits who are after just that heroic attention.
No. 377881
>>372040>>377776These people love to have convulsions don't they? even if it's just shaking from pain/fever, no, everything is a convulsion and it must be epilepsy!! omg so annoying
sage bc rage
No. 377964
>>377958I already get a lot of munchies asking me where I get my oxygen tanks because they are out of breath too because their pots is "so severe". The last thing you need with pots is more oxygen as most people with pots have hypocapnia.
If you really need oxygen a doctor will prescribe it.
They also hate that they can't smoke or wear lip balm while on oxygen. If you truly need the oxygen both of those are not something you are upset about.
No. 377969
>>377946Using mobility aids is a self-fulfilling prophecy (which is why I loathe them). You might have experienced this when you had a broken leg: after six weeks in a cast, your leg muscles were so visibly atrophied, your legs looked freakishly uneven, right? Walkers/rollators modify your gait pattern from the normal upright walking pattern to a weird toe-striking walking pattern. Wheelchairs are even worse and I find it borderline criminal to prescribe them for POTS but then not provide them with cardiovascular PT and compression leggings. You see their feet swelling from the pooling as their heart reconditions. The human cardiovascular system doesn't consist of the heart, it also consists of your skeletal muscles that are necessary for keeping blood pressure and circulation up. POTS patients should be given graded physio to help them build more muscle, compression gear and shitloads of Florinef, not powerchairs. MUGA/sestamibi scans of the hearts of quadriplegics over time show that the heart rapidly loses its ability to keep up as the skeletal muscle can't compensate anymore - that's why you have to gradually sit up a quadriplegic, lest they lose consciousness from orthostatic hypotension. The same goes for braces: braces weaken the limb, so it will be less stable, underlining the need for braces. If you are healthy and if I gave you a pair of AFO braces to wear for two months, you could not walk without them at the end of the two months.
TL;DR: most of the wheelchair and orthotic prescription practices are borderline criminal.
No. 377972
>>377939I still don't understand why she doesn't put a blanket on the couch or under the coffee table. Plenty of people keep blankets draped over the couch or an arm of it. Then she'd never forget it.
But she also wouldn't have another Harlow trick that she can film. Of course.
No. 377975
>>377964…and panic attacks/anxiety/hyperventilation, all of which are made worse by more oxygen.
(Short explanation: these conditions induce cerebral hypoxia and thus fainting etc. by inducing vasoconstriction in the brain through high O2/low CO2 in the blood (hypocapnia). Paradoxically, lots of O2 in the blood and little CO2 means tight cerebral blood vessels and low tissue O2/high tissue CO2. CO2 is a potent cerebral vasodilator, which is breathing into a bag, which will contain less and less O2 and more and more CO2 helps panic attacks - it dilates the brain's blood vessels and perfuses the tissue and you're all better.)
No. 377979
>>377974The overwhelming majority of bracing I see is self-prescribed.
Example: if you see someone with those knee braces, Aspen collars, non-shell back braces, black/tan wrist braces: those are all commercially available to anyone. ANYONE.
(K)AFOs, shell back braces, wrist braces, etc. are not.They need to be made to measure, and the process is not simple, and is only done on medical prescription. Very few spoonies have one, and man, are they craving them! Powerlevel: I have a few benign brain and spinal tumours that press on nerves so I can't lift my feet properly. I was given a really cool AFO brace to compensate. As I see patients, some of whom have or claim EDS, their first question if they catch a glimpse of it is 'how can I get one of those'. That's when I make a little 'F68.1/2dy g/n?' remark on their chart.
No. 377985
>>377981Note the question mark. By law, if I ever suspect any condition, I have to note it. If I no longer feel that suspicion is warranted, I also have to note it. Also, I'm hoping that despite being an autistic fuck, I know people enough to be able to differentiate between 'oh, I hope I will get better with that, what's that?' and '
shiny eyes wow neat toy! how i can haz?' :)
Also, I am a ridiculous asshole. I've sent more people to psych referrals last year than the entire orthopaedics department. I'm a neurogastroenterologist, so when they came along, they knew that they bargained for a doc who will look at their GI problems from a neuro angle, and that includes the connection to the psyche. I don't often suspect factitious disorder, by the way. Perhaps once every other month.
No. 378001
>>377999
> Not a medfag so correct me if I'm wrong but Harlow can't alert to orthostatic hypotension because there is nothing wrong with her until she stands up. I guess Narcolepsy wasn't interesting or special enough for her so she's stopped advertising it.Correct(ish). Harlow may be able to alert her that she has low BP making her more prone to orthostatic hypotensive/tachycardic episodes, but (1) she's supposed to be basically always in that state, (2) indeed, she cannot alert her 15 minutes in advance unless she's Harlow the Magic Dog who Sees the Future in Advance. Which she isn't.
Bottom line, I concur with m'learned friend, Jaqui has no fucking idea of what she's talking about.
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No. 378026
>>378008that pose, blanket, wheelchair, NG tube.. poor me, I can drink 2/3 of an ensure bottle in one go, so sick and speshul
why do all of these munchies go for the same illneses?
No. 378041
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How on earth is she breathing if it's still stuck in her throat??
No. 378058
>>378008Makes me wonder if they decided to try the liquid GES.
I'm sure she cried enough after her normal GES, they are shutting her up by doing a liquid GES while she plays it up as her GP is so severe she can only drink a little.
GES studies are not an exact science. There isn't really a right or wrong way to do it..its not regulated. Like an xray, it is either normal or it's not.
The GES is done differently at each center sometimes down to different Drs. The meals are different, some are done standing, laying down, elevated laying down, 2 hr straight then over or a single picture at 30 min for next 4hr, some places rob you and go for 6 or 8 hrs (which is still not regulated well..some say it makes no difference, can be calculated at 2 hr, 8 he gives more depth, etc)
That causes irregular results obviously and I think that fact is why so many anachans go for GP.
But they are idiots.
I'm curious what she will say about her new results.
It kills me she says "to see how severe my gp is"
Gag
I'm really curious about if they are changing the ges to a liquid GES or if they kept it for meal ges..liquids go faster
No. 378069
>>378023Not pretty things, actually. Merely mentioning 'psychiatric cofactors' tends to incite furious rage from parents, even if the disease involved is very well known to have psychiatric correlates. But no, every parent is sure they baby bean is perfect, which is why I am fucking glad I mainly work on adults.
But yeah, I haven't seen many people take the message gracefully. There were a few exceptions, for sure. One was incredibly scared she had intestinal cancer. When I dx'd her with conversion disorder after every test came back negative, she flipped her shit. So I sat down, and we went through all the films, all the scope videos, all the scans with her, showing that she was indeed 100% ok. A year later, I got a letter from her, saying she hasn't had a single reoccurrence of the symptoms since then. There are some magical instances, but mostly, suggesting that the patient doesn't have a honest-to-goodness physical disorder is inviting a shitstorm. Not once have I first briefed hospital legal, then had a rep from legal and my boss (head of GI) present in the room, and it still ended up in a shitstorm.
Sage for diary.
No. 378077
>>378058I'll be honest… I'd phase out the GES as a screening test.
One, how bad the GES is does not seem to correlate with patient experience of severity.
Two, GES is easily manipulated. Not going to say how, but suffice to say there are OTC meds that get your stomach to a state of almost absolute stasis.
Three, any GES done outside the referring hospital is a crock of shite. I haven't seen a radiology facility who do GESs ask the patient what meds they are on. Even if they do, the best they can do is to ask the patient to stop taking them 3 days before the test, but what's the guarantee of adherence? And frankly, testing for cholinergic levels is pointless. A facility I know took temperatures and checked for mydriasis, but that's hit and miss - some people have naturally wide pupils and some people can have buttloads of antichols and still be barely above normal bodily temperature.
Bottom line, GESs are way too easy to cheat. A negative GES ought to rule out GP, but a positive GES should not necessarily mean it's GP. A GES conducted under medical supervision with the patient being under 3-day 24h observation would be ideal, but is unlikely to be feasible.
No. 378122
>>378041>>378043Pills can get "stuck" in your throat - but it is very rare. I have witnessed/given at least 100 modified barium swallow studies and I think I have only seen a pill get "stuck" once. And in that case the person has a slight structural abnormality and weakness/sensory loss due to a stroke. The structural abnormality wouldn't have been an issue had it not been for the stroke causing the weakness. Even then, they were able to eventually able to swallow the pill with some maneuvers.
Usually, the feeling of something stuck in the throat (globus sensation) is not actually the result of anything stuck. The more common cause is reflux. In this case the cause is likely just pure imagination.
If there truly was something stuck in her esophagus and not her trachea then she could still breath. And in this case its because she is straight up making things up.
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No. 378148
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She's been hankering for a pic for her woo treatments for a while now so clearly those emojis are secret tears of joy.
No. 378198
>>378158I'm sure some can and do.
The first time I was discharged with a picc the home health head nurse came out the first time and told me that I wouldn't see him again unless I needed a new picc for whatever reason. He would do it at my house.
I have animals and hearing that just freaked me out.
Thankfully never needed that but there is no way in hell id have ever let anyone do that..but some people do..sometimes they will place a picc bedside in hospital(how my first was done) but at least then they have everything needed and available other resources in case needed.getting it placed in IR is ideal and way safer.
Maybe her woo woo clinic will give her a nice shiny ambulance ride to a real hospital for a picc (which is far from permanent)
I don't get why they don't just use a midline on her if she's honestly blowing through IVs enough for them to consider a picc..but I wouldn't be surprised if that's B.S., just her tired of a "boring IV" and needing the attention and wanting to make those sweet special I'm so sick picc line photos.
No. 378201
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"Oh noes, I totally accidentally lost weight and hehe, I'm so skinny I wear children's clothes."
That's an eating disorder!
No. 378205
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Beautiful strained collarbones, errrr, hair, beautiful new hair you can't really see..
No. 378210
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>>378201she definitely likes to remind people that she can fit into kids clothes. i laughed when i saw babybear commented on this photo
>>378207i was just about to comment that lol nothing like a little road meth mugshot to show off those totes collarbonez
No. 378214
>>378205Her overbite makes me cringe like damn someone give the girl braces. Both her younger sisters had theirs corrected (one of them is ridiculously pretty) and honestly if Ariana had hers done she wouldnt look half bad (you cant see it in the picture but she has amazingly blue eyes)… but no. And so we are subjected to more overbite-induced-grimacing.
Im also not convinced that she was ever
that underweight. There is a lot of pushing her collarbones forward and taking photos of her face from waaay above her head, but lots of the photos that include her legs she is decidedly not-spoopy in. And certainly not ~OMG MUH ANOREXIA IS SO SOOPER SRS I NEARLY DIED~ as she would have people believe.
sage for being a bitch
No. 378231
>>378214I've known her for a long time..she is more than a monster to others in treatment and out. I have watched her attack another until she was reduce to just crying..and not show any concern what so ever.
She was at one point pretty small, but she was also pretty young and growing so she looked way smaller than she really was..she had the stupid positioning down back then! I don't think I've met anyone as selfish and self absorbed as her.
90% of all her pictures are like you said extremely stupid for ana points.
I wish I haven't known her for so long because her story is so inconsistent, full of lies and manipulation..her story changes, she reposts pictures and she has stolen many pictures from others.
Her sister is beyond beautiful. Both are, and her brother (who also had braces. Ariana did too but didn't fix her underbite due to anorexia)
She went on a rant a while back about wishing she could dye her hair but her anorexia was so severe she couldn't. Wtf? She got called out on that one and pitched a fit and eventually was blocked from the support group after several people reported her for that type of behavior as well as attacking other members. (As in you're too fat to have an ED. Look at me, I'm dying)
She turned down a full scholarship to Baylor college to focus on her ED (treatment hop)
She's a closet eater and will do whatever it takes to be the center of the world.
Her personality is honestly just horrid..id put hers up with ash..def. the black sheep of the family. It is sad because she had as much potential as her siblings but fell through and I think watching her siblings be amazing at everything and go so far in life is making her feel left behind and that fuels her on going super severe battle of anorexia (notice she leaves out a lot of the other issues that go with an ed?)
I do hope she gets a grip on herself. I hope this is it and she won't be so intimidated by having a life with her now seeing how far behind she is in real life..i hope she uses it to motive herself to move forward in life and not use it to go back into her super special deadly anorexia
No. 378262
>>378229And now that she's got the feeding tube, she has magically stopped having her "angioedema attacks". She did mentioned mast cell disorder again in passing in a recent vlog even though she was told by her doctors it's just angioedema (aka swelling). That diagnosis wasn't unique enough for her and she had to move on to GP and toob drama.
Next she'll move on to her custom wheelchair and her supposed MALS (probably will weasel an unnecessary surgery out of that one along with some EDS delayed healing drama)
No. 378320
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she's gonna regret that decision if her fake endo turns out to be real
No. 378328
>>377999It looks like Jacquie is teaching Harlow to hand her wallet to cashiers in anticipation of her wheelchair usage. I have never seen a wheelchair user do this. It doesn't make sense. You can reach most pay counters even from sitting down.
Also, seems a little gross.
I have no expertise but it seems like a silly thing to teach Harlow, even for Jacquie.
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No. 378376
>>378364Typically ear plugs/buds are 1. Annoying because they'd fall out or you'd keep having to adjust. 2. Many autistics have sensory issues to things being in their ears so this isn't even an option. 3. A lot of the "headphone/earmuff" thing has to do with the pressure added making you feel more comfortable sensory wise and "safe". 4. I've gone to many Best Buy's, Walmarts, looked online and they don't make noise canceling ear buds anyways.. or at least NOT like they do headphones.
Please learn something about Autism you uneducated fuck.
No. 378541
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I think that comment was her friend, not Jacquie.
No. 378722
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TBH all this pics together kinda creep me out. It's like horror movie twins, especially how they don't smile and always have the same expression.
Anyway, is someone gonna make a new thread? Gonna need it soon and idk how kek
No. 378776
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Somehow I find it hard to believe she actually wants to go home
No. 378781
>>378560Jacquie's SPD dx is really doubtful anyway. She's claimed to have cyclic vomiting syndrome and migraines. She's clearly disposed to neurological prodromes.
Her obsession with causal explainations for her issues is dumb. Seeing as many specialists as she does is counter productive.
Young women with as many trivial neurological issues as Jacquie weren't catered too 10-15 years ago to the extent they are today. There's next to nothing that can be done for they beyond a script for a gabapentinoid or tricyclic.
No. 378801
>>378776Doubtful - she probably just knows she has to appear like she wants to go home.
Either that or her tests came back fine and so they aren't going to give her all the super special treatment she wanted (all the plans for surgeries that are up in the air could just be things that were mentioned when she questioned all the worst case scenario - and she isn't a worse case senario). These doctors may be catching on to her being a big faker.
Also from the pictures posted here it seems she has dropped the mysterious epilepsy in favor of just trying to pull of sick cancer kid. Or does her epilepsy only appear when convenient.
No. 378814
>>378801shes in tears because shes not getting the surgury. it was planned for tomorrow but my bets are that yea, she doesnt need it because most likely her testing to prove her severe gp came back fine. things arent going her way so now she wants to escape the mean ol doctors telling her she just needs to treat her eating disorder and go back to her hug box at home.
>>378809doubtful. shes a malingerer and will latch on to anything so she can feel special and loved and hang on to her childhood. hence an adult woman still seeking care in a pediatric setting. how nice it must be to have play doh on demand and people come see you and speak to you in hushed babytalk.
No. 378827
>>378722Might be the creepiest IG I have ever seen. Partly bc it's unintentionally creepy.
We do need a new thread. Idk how to start one either…
No. 378910
>>378869And she went to the bathroom to purge- er, vent, sorry- her stomach contents for (at least) the second time that day, if we should believe she only does it when she says so on the vlog.
In a nasty public bathroom. If she gets those fucking bags she'll do it everywhere, I hope someone catches on to her shit fast for this.
No. 378932
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>>378910>jfw "not everyone has a feeding tube" when judd makes a poop jokeThe way she insisted several times that he bought the blanket and that it wasn't expensive was creepy.
No. 378956
>>378910Wowza..surely She isn't that dumb?
Anyone healthy or not will have pure acid/bile come out of a stomach drain in the morning..
No. 378964
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A PERFECT example of her no longer having hobbies. She USED to be an avid photographer, she still could with her vlog camera, but no, she's too sick.
No. 378992
>>378910It is absolutely dumb to 'vent' your stomach unless you have one of the specific indications for it (reverse peristalsis filling your stomach with bile or being on J-feeds/TPN that leave your stomach empty and causing you to either vomit up gastric acid or the superfluous gastric acid causing you to develop gastric wall damage and you can't take misoprostol for whatever reason).
Plain venting aka opening the valve and letting bygones be bygones is not a great idea. One, in general, most PEGs are placed relatively high (although if a J extension is envisaged, they might be lower), so you might not get any output at all. If it's a little lower, you will get rid of fluids you drank that are still in your stomach + stomach acid. Your body produces a more or less constant volume, but removing it all the time means you lose fluids that way, and considering you can't exactly gulp down a bottle of fluid, you are gonna miss it (unless you really want to have those juicy, juicy POTS symptoms).
Farrell bags. Now these sound more clever, but keep in mind they were not invented for tubes with lumina in them, such as a PEG/J - indeed, a separate G and J is usually what we do for people who do legitimately have a need to drain (we're talking people who have nearly lost the ability to speak at some point due to violently vomiting up gastric acid and bile, not Munchie McMuncherson). As such, the remaining lumen from the PEG/J may not be enough to keep it from getting clogged (the 'maximum transmissive diameter', i.e. the maximum size of an object that can just about travel up the tube if it's under the vacuum of the Farrell, is calculated as G inner diameter minus J outer diameter divided by two. That's usually not a lot, even fibres in smoothies can clog it up.
Now we're going into demented territory. Flush-suck is a bad, bad idea. Not only is a fast flush a major trauma both on the stomach wall and definitely on the extremely sensitive cilia on the wall of the intestine, it's also pretty painful (I did it once, and didn't care to repeat it ever again, neither for myself nor a patient). Even worse, it basically acts as a peristaltic pump, slowly moving stomach contents into the stoma, which is a really, really bad idea but a great way to get severe bacterial infections rewarding you with weeks in hospital!
Bottom line: unless explicitly told by your GI (as in, "Miss X, you fucking need to vent that fucker!"), don't. If you do need to vent, try laying on your back and gently opening up the G-port - sometimes the accumulated air etc. getting out helps a lot. Anything else is not venting but suctioning, and is in and of itself a dumb idea save a very, very few circumstances, and it annoys me to no end that these 'super tubies' are doing it routinely, one learning from another. Jesus.
No. 379021
Decided to drop in and take a break from the Jacquie show to see if anyone remembers my personal cow, Captain Angry Bones. She finally got to have her speschul dysautonomia tests, and apparently she has all of them. Here's yesterday:
https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/photos/a.1446892858879963.1073741828.1445856738983575/1979583872277523/But don't worry, guys; she's already feeling totes better. Here's today:
https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/photos/a.1446892858879963.1073741828.1445856738983575/1980099658892611/ No. 379426
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halfway through the video she is absolutely GIDDY and BEAMING about her custom wheelchair
No. 379428
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the face of someone who needs a port, a feeding tube, a walker, a service dog and a custom wheelchair
No. 379829
>>376883This is the type of shit that needs to be spoilered.
sage for late af
No. 380230
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Did this bitch ACTUALLY just say that her golden retriever doesn't go for walks??? She takes her to the dog park maybe once a month. Poor, poor Harlow.
No. 380715
>>377384>>377077She made 36 appearances netting a huge $13.88 per appearance.
That's some next level fundraising failure
No. 387889
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Probably not a munchie, most likely actually sick but just OTT. So sick that she's on disability at age 21 but well enough to go drinking? Interesting.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)