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what do you guys think of Jaclyn Hill? She seems to be really polarizing in the community
in my opinion her videos are fine cause she usually goes in depth about her techniques and make everything super simple. but they're too repetitive and she hardly uploads so i'm not subscribed. also i think she looks tacky as fuck, with those god awful lips and just the way she does her makeup in general is just shit. bitch looks like an alien to me. but she's good when i need to remember to blend my shadow!
any other opinions?
Personally I like her videos and I like watching her cake on so much makeup because I don't wear that much. Idk I find it really relaxing to watch for some reason. I agree her makeup is way over the top 99% of the time. The amount of highlighter she uses is ridiculous.
I don't follow her on any other social media so I feel like that's why I don't hate her. It seems like as soon as you start following these people on snapchat or twitter you start to find things that make you dislike them.
has her own thread but its too old to necro and apparently full of white knighting anyway.
I've never understood the hype surrounding her channel. She constantly wears makeup that doesn't flatter her, her "quirky" behavior is irritating, she's always screaming, and she looks like Stinky from Casper. I don't agree with her 12 year old fans harassing Tarte back in the day until they gave her a palette (an ugly one at that) or when she vlogged that mommy-daughter shopping spree to NYC. In the latter, she bought her mom some designer bag and the strap broke, so they sent it back for repairs. She bitched about how long it was taking (because god forbid the thought-provoking, gracious graveyard girl wait like every other person does!) so her fanbase once again bombarded the company with emails demanding the bag. She thanked her fans and the company issued an apology even though they did nothing wrong by following protocol and filling customer's orders which came before Bunny and her trailer trash family.
I honestly don't get the amount of stanning for this person.
PULL has a thread on her but its mostly fluff about the Tarte palette drama (she isn't a makeup guru yet she only got the palette through her incessant fans spamming the company, same as the broken bag incident), how she used to be sponsored by Lime Crime, photoshopping her eyes to look bluer than they actually are (pulling a Dakota), and that's basically it. A lot of people unsubbed from her because she became so obnoxious and they miss old Bunny content from her paranormal days. She knows nothing about skincare/makeup.
Also, something about her throwing away fan mail.
She looks filthy, doesn't know what she's talking about, and thinks being loud and obnoxious is entertaining.
Yep, definitely appeals to the teen audience.
i dont understand her appeal at all.
one thing that has really bothered me is that she says her current bf "dogman" has been the only guy shes ever dated but in her old paranormal days she mentions something about a dead bf with a mohawk or some shit. it's like she retconned her own dating life for no reason
oh my god this bitch is a huge cow.
I've never seen anything about her.>had a husband/bf who she called her sugar daddy>he cheats they get divorced>during her marriage to him she freaks on her fans because she says she'll never have kids ever>like she made a (now deleted) vlog crying how she'll never have kids and her meanie fans dont understand by telling her she'll change her mind>now has a baby>with some weird dude she just met>throughout 2011-now her youtube drastically changed>she built an entire persona of being a biology nerd and what not but turns out she has no knowledge of the degree she has and is just an airheaded shopaholic
bleh she could have a whole thread but i have no caps i'm sure theyre out there somewhere though.
Agreed. Bunny has become a real bitch in recent years. She's basically used her tween fan army to bully companies into giving in to her demands. >>481470
I'm amazed you could even click on it. I can't stand her and I have honest to god never understood the appeal of her. I don't understand her stans on pull or in her /snow/ thread. I remember a few months ago when the hurricane happened all she could do was bitch on vlog that she was having milk in her coffee for the first time in days. Like oh poor fucking youtuber, going without milk in her latte! Meanwhile, other people lost their loved ones or entire goddamned house.>>481496
People defended her by saying that it was supposed to look "antiquey", but it didn't invoke that vibe to me at all.. It just looked very out of place and as mentioned before, Bunny isn't even a makeup guru yet she got the palette and she is referred to as one? Maybe I should buy some cheap ass Revlon and tuck my upper lip and try to get paid if she is apparently what qualifies as a guru.>>481508
Because she had to rebrand herself as some ~*quirky sippy white trash lolsorandum*~ amalgamation of wtf in order to get attention, because the old fans that she had weren't good enough for her.
Its honestly sad that she's only 32 yet has such an unfortunate face. Her hands were also recently posted in Suzy's thread and everybody thought they belonged to an old man at first.
It always irritated me that she deliberately puts on a stronger, even more southern accent when she's from Texas and in all my life I've never heard a Texan sound like her. She did admit it a long time ago because people were asking if she grew up somewhere else or her family were from the deep south, apparently she spent her childhood with a friend who had a more southern accent, I can't remember where, and that's why. When she's speaking with anyone else on camera she has a regular accent but then on her own does her best to sound like she's country. It's a stupid gripe but it never made sense to me. Also her eyes aren't as blue in person but that's painfully obvious, and I don't know why she 'teaches' young girls 'how to do their makeup' when she only recently started blending and she still makes her shadow both muddy and patchy, and her foundation has never matched her a day in her life. I doubt it ever will. She also talks extensively about how bad her mental health is and how she frequently has to take days in bed because of it, stays up all night and sleeps through the day, likes to come across as a poor fragile quirky flower. She makes it sound romantic, at least she used to, because Dogman stays with her through everything and he's pretty much the only one who does spend time with her now apparently which is a bit sad.
KL is so annoying. I forgot that I had subbed to her until her Halloween acorn video showed up in my sub box and to my surprise she was pregnant. I had to kek about her carrying around a NUT! KL has always been one of those try-hard asian girls who wanted to be ~ ULLLZANG kawaiiiii ~ and she was ok back in the days of bubz and hanh. They were all just making shitty videos with no techniques or skills just catering to their cheap teenage asian audience.
I wonder if she will try the whole mommy vlogger thing. I actually enjoy bubzvlogs. I hated her other content it was so insufferable and immature. Her videos were Full of "pawsitive thinking" mantra bullshit, drives me up the god damn wall!! She's so much more likable now that she's acting like a normal human being.
To be honest I used to be subbed to her for her sewing videos
Those were enjoyable but who knew she was such a cow behind it all
She was so much more likable some years back, when she was still making paranormal videos alongside hauls, ootds, and vlogs. You could tell she put a lot of thought into her videos back then. She was always a little goofy, but not extreme as now, screaming at the camera and everything. She says she just got more comfortable with herself, no shes clearly hamming it up to able to young kids (where all the money is on youtube now)
She stopped doing paranormal stuff as much now bc she doesn't want to scare her child audience kek.>>481508
Anon Im fucking glad you brought this up bc ive noticed similar inconsistencies in her videos. She used to talk about how bc her bad anxiety she would sleep with her hairdryer on in the bed with her, take it with when she stayed in hotels and at friends etc. The last time I watched a video of hers she said that she would never keep the hairdryer on while she sleeps and that she dosent travel with them? strange. I also rember her mentioning a dead boyfriend.
Theres also the recent mystery box drama, again her fans pestering people/shops. Shes more milky than I thought
Yeah, but people want to talk about it over here
on lc. And Bunny's thread is about two years old with mostly stans ruining it.
>>482774>She stopped doing paranormal stuff as much now bc she doesn't want to scare her child audience kek.
She said it was due to a bad experience she and her boyfriend had and shit going on in their house.
Jaclyn is one of my least favorite out of the 'big' beauty gurus on youtube. Her makeup is boring at best, ugly at worse. Her style is tacky and OTT, but not tacky and OTT enough to be lovable and iconic. Her whole quirky basic white bitch shtick isn't my thing either.
The only youtube beauty guru I really dislike is nikkie tutorials just because she is beyond boring to me. All her makeup looks the same, all her videos are the same, photoshopping her moonface all the time, etc.
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MannyMua apparently found Jeffree stars boyfriends nudes and now shit is about to hit the fan
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Jackie's name has been floating around a lot lately for drama. Apparently she said "konichiwa" while doing an ombre lip, then deleted the video and gave a half ass "Sorry you don't get my humor" apology. Then the giveaway winner who posted on reddit talking about Jackie was going to cancel her prize for contacting her when she had been ignoring the winner. The girl won in February and just got her prize this month because she complained.
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Lmfao beautythots reaching to Pluto with “konnichiwa das racist”
I need somebody to sit me down through the mental fucking gymnastics these spectrum afflicted kids danced their way through to make 'konichiwa' problematic
when she wasn't exactly in idk China trying to greet officials.
It gets even better, Manny thought he was being clever vague tweeting about finding the nudes so Jeffree tweeted "life's a drag" to leak the name of Manny's palette.>>551891
I didn't want to believe the old stories about Jackie being a scammer but looks like the loons on LSA were proved right
i don't even like jackie but someone needs to enlighten me on how that is racist lmao
the beauty community just wants EVERYTHING to be racist/tied to race nowadays
What's with that clasping hand gesture youtubers do whenever they begin an introduction or laugh at the start of their video? Is this a nervous tick, or is this a behavior that came about on social media recently?
I notice the really fake type of youtubers tend to make grand gestures, laugh, and look around a lot.
i used to enjoy jackie's content but stopped after the last year (maybe 2 years ago…)or so. unsubbed. she's annoying as hell and only reviews expensive shit or sponsored shit. the way she was shoving his stupid bf into things for a while bothered me too. and she openly liked kuckian but refuses to admit it now. her old videos are day and light. she was a quiet no bs reviewer and now she thinks being loud=funny=good video. she's grating. especially because her sound sucks, and she insists on screaming and shit. also she dismisses anyone who disagrees with her, but you'd have to follow her on twitter to notice it. it didn't surprise me that she treated the giveaway winner so poorly. she thinks everyone needs to worship the ground she walks on.
i really dislike jackie. and i still think the konichiwa heat was undeserved. she didn't do anything wrong. all the virtue signaling was the worst, talking about "why do people never call out racism against asian poc???" sure do talk about it but saying konichiwa isn't racism against poc you fragile bitch. she shouldn't have deleted the video. but she cries and deletes and acts dumb at the sight of criticism so no surprise. still, she did nothing wrong. its not even a microagression. its like someone putting on a beret and saying "Bonjour ladies!" who the fuck cares. the people who complained about that probably love kathleen n-word lights too, crybabies.
I HATE these learned youtube ticks that all of them feel like they have to do.
The absolute worst one is common especially with girls. They constantly look down or to the side while saying “so” or “and” and then immediately looking at the camera while cheerily saying “yeah!”
So sick of the constant “so…yeah!” “and… yeah!” That is not a normal speech tick and it’s originated entirely from them copying each other’s videos. Why. Stop.
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James Charles is so gross and that outfit is hideous
How did this kid get so popular again?
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Technically not a beauty guru, but does anyone watch Charles Gross?
I watched Charles when he first started out, he actually made interesting videos about Hermes bags if into that that stuff, but once he got popular he ran out of ideas and just start trolling and became a discount Trisha Paytas
Poor kid has a million problems and needs mental help - he broke down crying because of his bad experience with Hermes, has social issues, family issues, overdone botox & lip injections, sex addiction, and fills the void in his heart with shopping and luxury goods which he later resells anyways.
He's an absolute mess
>>558513>he broke down crying because of his bad experience with Hermes
In this video, right? I never had the time/patience to watch it, but it seemed lulzy when I first saw it in my recommends.
Can anyone makd a TL;DW?
god I vaguely remember that drama, he was trying to find a not common blue Birkin, problem is that these bags aren't mass produced, so there's usually waiting lists and priority is given to frequent buyers/celebrities/etc, not someone who used to work in the birkin reselling world. So he felt like he wasn't getting quality treatment? And so on one of the Hermes employee's IG account (from the hermes store he'd constantly go to), the employee's friend made a comment about Charles and Charles saw it and went nuts. Even recorded himself crying on his bathroom floor about the drama.
Went on to email the company about his dramatic terrible experience, but I'm pretty sure in the end the Hermes gave 0 shits and did nothing about it.
He eventually got the bag from a reselling site I think
Anyways due to this tragic and horrific incident, his image of Hermes is tainted and sold his bags later on
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Since when does Wallace Shawn do makeup tutorials?
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john mclean is a very good makeup artist but I can't stand some of is facials expressions and the way he talk. I don't know if it's me who is ratchet but he really sound like a parody/ a try hard version of Lisa Eldridge. The video is to give a good exemple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJX2-yLeckc
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And also this facebook post destroyed my side
the voice and try-hard words are a recent and deliberate jokey kind of thing, like he knows how ridiculous he sounds and plays it up hardcore and adds vampire references and stuff. Tbh I like it,I also like that he owns his weird taste in looking like extremely feminine, sophieellis bextor-ish, and still calls himself a man, in one video he even says "I am THE man," which I liked. However, his looks are all very similar, similar shapes and silohuettes to his eye work, contour, brows and lips, and extremely heavy mask makeup, so I stopped watching.
The Hermés employee made a comment through their friends account that Charles should "jump his faggot ass from a bridge and die" or something along the lines, so it's not like the comment was as nice as you're making it out to be.
Charles is a huge attention whore so he used that to be what he does best, an attention whore.>>576945
Charles does nothing else except complain how difficult it is to be a rich kid. He's trying to be the gay Trisha Paytas v2.
He's dry on milk 97% of the time and once a year he makes a decent video that is chuckleworthy.
It's not just you anon. That wide-eyed crazed look he gets in his eye from time to time when he refuses to blink is still very jarring. Just came back after a long while of not skimming through his videos and he's done a better job of toning it down but you can still see it for shorter bursts at times.>>569274
Either way it's obnoxious and try-hard.
Super late but I fucking hate so many of the anti-consumerist channels. I don't hate what they stand for or what they discuss. There are glaring problems with the YT beauty community, being disingenuous for benefits, dishonest reviews to stay on PR lists, pushing mediocre PR products and never touching or mentioning them again, all this stuff we already know. But channels like hers that just complain about the community and declare these problems like they're the first ones to ever point it out annoy me because they're so self-righteous. They pat themselves on the back for all the products they don't buy, brands they don't support, panning their products, talking about 'issues' in the community like they're heroes. There's nothing offensive about any of that but their self-righteous attitude is so annoying. How many videos can you make of 'I'm not going to buy this because I have this one palette with the same colors so I don't really need it.' But then when they get something in PR they're all giddy and excited, and all that 'I'm just saying the truth, I'm saying the things no one else wants to say' just strangely goes away.
Lucia Tepper is the worst offender, smug and yet fucking stupid at the same time. Her controversial makeup ads video is some of the worst overreacting I've seen in a long time, doesn't know how to pronounce Sid Vicious, and makes quick judgements without googling or doing any research. Thrifty Beauty has one good video, the Pop Effect, and the rest is being a smug, snarky bitch. I like that she encourages saving money and planning financially but I hate her attitude. Elle S makes really nice looks but she's so hipster and whiny, when people criticize her instead of ignoring it she makes a whole video about her dad getting cancer, her pet dying, trouble with her job, supposedly venting but just trying to get sympathy. Get over it, don't make content if you can't handle some people not liking you. She acts humble but thinks she's so special with her Stevie Nicks skinwalking and 70s aesthetic obsession.
All in all they come across as the bitter bitches that hate the pretty girls at the popular girls table but secretly want to be them. Any of them would shill for the kind of money but beauty guru's are making in a second.
Sorry for the essay, I've just been dying to vent about this.
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Charles Gross's sex tape leaked!(spoiler nsfw images)
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her uneducated video about how people buy stuff for the cute packaging and talking shit about well-known, high quality Korean makeup/skincare line was so dumb. and how the one toofaced donated part of the earnings of the clover palette to animal charity. she opens her mouth before researching things.
for those who don't know who she is and don't want to visit her channel, these are the titles of her shitty (but most viewed) videos>makeup collabs you bought JUST for the celeb's name>Makeup You Bought JUST For The Packaging>Products People Buy That They Know Won't Work For Them>Why "Collecting" Makeup Is PROBLEMATIC
She occasionally makes decent quality videos, but those don't reach 5K views. >>551844>>552091
He's so annoying, esp. how he dropped JS after using him for views and fame.
Yeah, he definitely doesn't bother me because all of his anti-hauls made perfect sense to me, while being really funny. He had actually good reasons for not buying certain products while being entertaining.
However, I hate
the anti-hauls going from being funny to preachy SJW (I'm sorry but I can't think of another word for it) bullshit out of nowhere. So many of his anti-hauls just derail into preaching, and he's even acknowledged that it annoys people and that he should keep the ranting in his series that is specifically for those topics and keep it out of the anti-hauls that are a lot of fun.
I like the guy, never bothered me that he used the products sent to him (why wouldn't he, hell yeah I'd use Good Genes and DE if I got it for free) but I hate the SJW shit. Like saying that people that love Korean skincare are culturally appropriating and 'Orientalizing' it's like people want the products because they have good ingredients and they work. I couldn't give a fuck where the products come from if they are good, work for my problem skin, are affordable and at least being ethically produced. And you're supporting the Koran companies by buying the products anyway, it grossed me out that he tried to make people feel bad for wanting nice skin.
update on this girl:
>made q&a addressing drama that's been going on for months >stated that she's still an anti-consumerism channel despite thirsting for sponsors>flat out states that she would not be against collaborating with a brand (she claims to be ANTI CONSUMERISM) and releasing her OWN palette (specifically with colourpop as she's name dropping them repeatedly in her video)>avoid dramas channels because they are gross and stated it's disgusting for them to build off someone's success despite building her entire channel off shitting on makeup brands>admits that her channel grew because of drama >"it's not about the numbers but i gained 40k subs in a month">still continues to have poor makeup skills and is unable to pick colors that match her skin tone>continues to flip flop on her beliefs
this girl is still my favorite flake in the making.
This chick is boring. I agree with all your criticism, but she also just seems like a young girl who doesn't know what she is doing. She just finished her first year of college and she is like a standard college girl from a Christian family who thinks she is really grown up now, if that makes sense.
I think she will even out and just be boring.
Could be wrong though.
I initially started watching her because I'm thought her views on anti-consumerism were interesting. She got the tiniest bit of attention and she used it to beg brands to spend her PR even though she stated multiple times that PR was problematic
. Then her mental gymnastics to explain how it was okay to get PR was fucking stupid. Basically she was like "I can get PR because I am trustable to give an unbiased opinion". How? Literally the only time she's anti-consumerism is when she's shitting on brands and other YouTubers. I fucking hate even seeing her videos pop up in my recommended tbh.
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Bitch deadass bought from too-faced even if she talks shit about them in every.single.video she makes. Lmao, I bet she is just salty bc she can't afford everything she wants, like, most people.
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So ~minimalist~ of her
she makes it sound like the PR companies sending her palettes is beyond her control. girl, you gave them your postal address! no one needs that much shadow.
if she was really anti-consumption she would have depotted the ones she didn't have problems with and then used them in looks (e.g. put any gold eyeshadow over lid) instead of buying new ones and recommending specific brands. she would be able to dupe a lot of new palettes that way.
I hate how beauty youtubers only donate their trash to charities. they never donate anything new, just used things to make themselves feel better about not throwing them away. poor people don't deserve your trash.
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Update: Lucia apparently is selling the bronzer, didn't anyone give her a lecture about freaking used makeup?
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Well, since the Jeff thread is basically dead, I'll post this here instead. Who's excited to see how biased Shane's "The Secret World of Jeffree Star" series will be?
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tin foil, but jeffree trying to say he doesn't have an eating disorder when his knuckles are clearly scarred just doesn't add up to me
Shane also did long ass videos on grav3yardgirl and Tana, both of which were discussed in their threads. Do you not understand how any of this works? >>>/snow/483139>>>/snow/100403
>Come to thread about /YOUTUBE/ gurus>Talk shit about people watching /YouTube/ videos
I don't think you understand how dumb you are.
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I 100% get what you mean. I know he's really hammy and over-sexualizes every move as part of his brand™, but he's like the only one who can actually pull it off. I'm otherwise kinda grossed out by him. I've also always found Buffalo Bill confusingly hot though, so maybe I'm just fucked up.
How are knuckles a sign of an ED?
I kinda believe him on that, the only thing I have done is weed seems harder to accept tho. I assume he is stoned a lot but not in the way you eat a ton on?
Anyways this video is more about how nice his place is. It’s crazy how rich he is and how much stuff he has. It looks like the second video will be more milky
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I'm deeply uncomfortable with with his dog "cleaning his gums". Also I will never get tired of Andrew giggling behind the camera in every video. What a cutie pie.
what the fuck??? I know jeffree is weird but this is just fucking gross.
Do you guys think he's one of those people that open-mouth kiss their dogs?
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Tbh my knuckles look like that frequently just from eczema and dry climate (especially in the winter), and I wouldn't trust anything on his body given the amount of surgery he's had. I'd be more apt to believe it just based on his eating habits. "I don't gain weight and I don't sweat idk why!!!" just seems too easy, and especially since his teeth are fake too. Seems like he just eats 100% sugary junk food. Also this was one of the images I remember best from his Myspace days, so it only seems appropriate.
Idk anon guys hold weight weird. I think we all know at least one old dude who’s creepy skinny with no explanation. Plus if you ever watch his mukbangs he’s a crazy picky eater (only eats cheese burgers plain with one bun, only eats cheese quesadillas with no sauce from toco Bell) so he probably has disordered eating but not an eating disorder.
He just seems like one of those weird kids who got picked on a lot in school and never really grew up because of it. Hence the super obnoxious, racist, and just general shitty behavior.
I will say he does seem like a smart business man tho
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Huh. I had no idea he did a song with Nicki and was signed with Akon. I feel like they really overestimate his music career overall, with Akon saying he's the "next Lady Gaga". Like his music fit perfectly in the Myspace Electropop/Synth shit scene days, but there's no way he could have had a music career outside of that. Seems like he kind of implies signing with Akon was his downfall, but….it sure seems like he's doing fine in life. He should be more grateful of where he ended up, because there's no way he would have made as much money in music.
Jeffrey Star may have sucked and fucked his way to opportunities but ya gotta admit he was masterful at socializing and proved himself to be a compentent businessman. I respect that.
He’s not “humble” in the way people expect but for someone who capitalizes on the lavish diva image, he seemed to have really invested in himself on an emotional level these past years. Vastly more mature and stable than most of these maladjusted blubbering messes of Internet personalities who came into wealth. /end shill
Relatedly, Shane’s incessant “omg im so poor” routine gets on my fucking nerve like okay we get it Jeffree makes everyone look impoverished and you’re trying to be relatable to your viewers or whatever but Shane you’re not poor in any materialistic sense of the word. That shit is just condescending.
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In that vid he says “I don’t sweat lmao” but minutes later in their designer closet he says “omg I’m sweating” so yeah.
Also am I the only one not that impressed with his house? It severely lacks furniture overall. Like yeah they have a grand bed and some pinball machines but otherwise it seemed pretty .. barren. I was more impressed by graveyard girls house.
It’s a work in progress, it seems like he is focusing more on his wardrobe rooms upstairs for his stuff. Having multiple rooms for your expensive shit and multiple bedrooms for someone who has “no friends” is excessive. Bunny though seems to be pretty much done in her house setup and focuses more on the dolls and old stuff she has vs the one area for clothes that stuff. Different priorities. >>655213
It sounds like he signed with Akon because he was broke and needed something but Akon’s drama made him a bad partner to have for music and he feels like that stopped him and not like that he isn’t that good. It would be interesting to see him do music again so I hope he goes for it.
I normally like Shane but god damn he is annoying me recently with this Mother Teresa god of YouTube shit>omg I’m gonna buy this shitty kid who hates me a car because spread love <3>omg graveyardgirl I’m gonna save her channel>omg tanacon was just a misunderstanding they aren’t bad people >omg Jeffree should bring his music back because I SHANE know he wants to deep down
Bothers me more than it should but whatever. Lmao
Shane even stated on the No Jumper podcast that Fousey broke himself into that he’s been thinking about quitting YouTube so I’m almost wondering if he feels like collaborating and trying to help out other youtubers in this new docu-style to give himself a new way to enjoy making videos again, I mean Shane is one of the OG youtubers and is still kicking around so he must be sick of doing the same shit all the time
Honestly I’m loving his new style of videos he’s great with editing, and I laughed a fair bit in this new series
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Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing >>655987
said. I bet it's a holdover from his childhood, the same way he constantly talks about how fat he is even though he's obviously not as big as he was when he was a kid. Even though he has a nice house and money and shit he probably won't ever see himself as anything other than the "poor fat kid".>>655259
Oh yeah, I'm not saying he doesn't have charisma or isn't a hard worker at all, he certainly is. His wiki says:>He later described signing to Akon's record label as "the biggest mistake I've ever made."
I just mean I don't think he should be sitting in his mansions with millions of dollars and a successful makeup line "not looking at the prices of things" and saying that Akon ruined his life. That's bullshit. He could have just as easily ended up like all the other Myspace celebrities who are now nobodies. He should be thankful that his music career flopped and he pivoted to makeup at just the right time. Also literally no one is stopping him from making music again now with his own money? He's obviously got charisma and a unique character, but it takes more than that to carry a music career and musically speaking he wasn't anything special. I just think it's shitty of him to act like he's being a big person and forgiving Akon for ruining his life, he obviously came out better for it. I found that scene where he was playing his music for Shane so awkward and I almost thought it was a joke because….the music wasn't that good or interesting or different from any of the shit on Myspace in 2008 but they're both acting like it was a crime that he denied the world of more of it.
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Yeah, exactly. I don't know Jeff's discography that well but in the song they played there he just sounded like he was trying to be an off-brand/auto-tuned Davey Havok. But AFI had a music career long before and after the emo/scene kid days, and Jeffree still ended up better off than them. I think if he tried to do music now it would just come off as same as any other youtubers that release songs because they have yes men around them telling them they're so talented and should DEFINITELY have a music career when really it's just subpar and only their fans like it.
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Does anyone else still find Jeffree to feel….extremely fake and manipulative? I know he's playing a character a lot of the time but I still don't know how he expects us to believe he went from
>I was always poor!!!
>I made this company with the only $3000 I had to my name
>Walmart???? Ew what's that??? I don't own anything that's not Gucci
>I don't know how much anything costs and I don't look at prices
In less than 4 years? (According to google his company launched in 2014, but who knows how long until he made a profit) I don't think you can cry about being poor your whole life and your mom sucking off drug dealers then also act like you've never been in a Walmart before. Even other "rags to riches" YouTubers (Tana, JennaMarbles, grav3yardgirl, etc) still worry about money and talk about how cheap they still are. And in the Walmart series on Jeffree's channel with Jeffree's cameraman & editors, he's suddenly a huge philanthropist
Part 1, 9:45 -
>Ugh don't make me talk about this on camera but I just so HAPPENED to donate $125,000 to the LGBT Center earlier today and these OTHER companies only donated $2000
Part 1, 16:10 -
>I just want to say to the camera if this Walmart employee gets in trouble for helping us I'll hire her at my company!!
(Which, why even make that promise because Walmart pays shit, she's probably disappointed that she didn't get a better job)
Part 2, 1:18 -
>Omg all this was only $200, I can't believe it!! What a deal!!
Part 2, 3:45 -
>Insists on paying the bill for a "fan's" whole table at Olive Garden because it's her birthday
I just get the vibe that he's very carefully curating his image here, and Shane's just naive and believes every word because he's sweet. He seems like the kind of boss who would say that the employees aren't at the warehouse because they don't want to be on camera and we respect that!! but really sent them home for an unpaid day off because he doesn't want them around. (Speculating of course, he just gives off that vibe)
I agree that he’s fake it is kind of his job to maintain an image, it’s just business. People like his Regina George with a heart of gold shit because people love feeling like someone so unattainable will reciprocate their support.>Shane's just naive and believes every word because he's sweet
Not really lol Shane’s doing the exact same thing, curating an image. Sperging out like he’s never seen a damn warehouse even though Jeffree runs literal whole ass companies… you can even see Jeffree looking at him like stfu multiple times. I’d let my employees have a day off too knowing dudes with cameras gonna run around screaming like little babies and getting in everyone’s way>Jeffree you should do this and that!!! Cuz it’s not like you’re already more successful than me and your channel is doing fine without muh unsolicited advice and shilling
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Is this…whole series just a buildup to them releasing a Shane Dawson palette? Yikes. I wonder how all the other million gurus would feel about Jeff giving Shane of all people a makeup line.
Also I know it's probably mostly a joke but Garrett is way too good and pure for Jeffree. Tbh I think Garrett and Andrew are too good for Shane too. (I do like that Jeff always says hello to Andrew though, I feel like even Shane barley acknowledges his existence)
i'm sorry but didn't shane make a two part video introducing andrew, saying he literally gave shane his mojo back because he's so skilled at editing?
you can also see that he invited andrew and ryland for fancy high tea to celebrate the success of the jefree series, saying "we did this" not I did this…
shanes not perfect by any means, but he seems to be really nice to his friends and to be working with andrew as a team at this point
Andrew is just Shane's hypeman and laugh track so we know the tea sis etc.
I like Ryland's editing I wish he would do more videos.
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in part 4 you catch a glimpse of molds for Too Faced (love flush) and Tarte blushes.
To be fair though these brands are in the same price range as Jeffree, so it's not like wetnwild and Jeffree's makeup are being made in the same factory.
Plus, the brands can still choose individually what quality products are being used.
No, you're right. I just meant that he's considered part of the "squad" but he never gets to be as involved in the shenanigans as everyone else. I think Andrew is delightful and just as funny as everyone else but he just gets pushed to the side because he's not Shane and Ryland being super extra or Morgan being ditzy. He's acknowledged for his work ethic, while everyone else in the "squad" gets to just be a personality essentially. Even in Shane's other series with guests none of them ever seem to acknowledge him as anything other than the camera, and Shane doesn't go out of his way to introduce him or anything. I just think it's nice that Jeff actually says hello and treats him the same as everyone else in the group.
I guess I just compare Andrew's role in Shane's videos to Andrew's role in Garrett's videos. I've watched Garrett's Coachella videos multiple times because I just think he and Andrew are so fun together, and you can tell Garrett just adores him. Garrett doesn't use him just as "Make sure everyone sees how funny I am!!!".>>660771
Doesn't he have beef with both of those companies though? Kek
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Big beats of the big emotional Shane convo and "giant bombshells" dropped by Jeffree is (Starts at 13:40ish)
>"So what I've never said before because I feel like if you try to defend something like…Racism or saying something really awful it just doesn't ever work out. But if you go and find the footage, the people I'm screaming at are caucasian. What I said was racist, but I wasn't saying it to a person of color. I was saying a horrible offensive word to cut back at someone calling me something awful. So it's not about race it's not about that, it's just about being an offensive, attention seeking, angry person."
>Shane shows clips of him doing offensive racist characters back in the day too
>"But you've apologized so many times!!"
>Shane says that he sees through all the petty tweets and drama to Jeffree's PAIN
>"People still think I'm the bad guy when I only loved and cared about all these people and boosted them and gave them all my connections and I'm still the fuckin bad guy"
>Says he tattooed his whole body to cover up from when he cut himself in highschool.
>Says multiple times that no one ever asked him WHY he was covering himself up and dressing like a goth in highschool
>Cutting was his huge secret that no one knew about
>Pulls down his pants and shows Shane scars on his legs
>Shane continues to praise him, "you're afraid to let people in!!"
>We hear Jeff sniffing loudly, but he's otherwise completely stonefaced the whole time.
>He's scared everyone's gonna backstab him
>More praising from Shane "everyone thinks you're so bougee but really you're just like us!!"
Nothing really surprising here. Jeffree seems to have a serious martyr complex and used to self-harm. "you misunderstood my racism! everyone treats me like a monster! but I only lash out because I'm really in pain!!!".
Tbh I don't even dislike Jeffree but trying to explain away his racist comments feels like a major backslide. He should have just left it at the apology video he made. Also he really bungled the whole "I came from nothing! I had to suck dicks to pay rent!" narrative when Shane tried to take him back to his "humble roots" and that turned out to be a multi-level 2 bedroom apartment with a loft and two balconies. I don't take self-harm lightly at all, but I just don't think it's that shocking of a reveal for anyone who lived through the Myspace scene queen aesthetic of "blood & razor blades & gloomy bear" everywhere. I also just think it's kind of a silly and immature notion for anyone to still be mad that other kids didn't notice notice their feelings, as if every single person in highschool isn't also going through their own self-absorbed puberty nightmare. Especially if your whole aesthetic even back then was to look as menacing and goth as possible. If I saw a goth kid with no eyebrows wearing head to toe black in highschool I would just think that's the style they're going for. How many people did Jeffree reach out to in highschool, huh? Also it's gross of them to go into another person's apartment and lay on their bed and talk about how much you fucked all over that same apartment. How long until Jeffree flips on the Shane gang for betraying him you reckon?
god I feel like a dick for thinking that but that whole part was so fake and obviously manipulative. the whole swelling music and somehow Shane never having seen self harm scars and armchair diagnosing and Jefree being like "ya" etc etc. I thought there would be some comments or a bigger dislike ratio bc it seemed so obviously transparent but apparently it's fine.
also he portrayed his old place as some literal shithole and maybe I'm too 3rd world but it seemed like a really nice flat? like really nice?
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Nah, I feel that way too. Everything was so clearly staged to be to cast him in the best light possible. Also lmao bitch hide what? We found out that the person who built a whole career off of being an emo kid….was an emo kid?! Literally he's bare chested and shows skin all the time in videos, it's not like it was stopping him.
NTA but I want to add to your comment that he usually targets women of color, and he uses racially charged slurs against them too.
The people at BGCr make me laugh so hard. They are so obsessed with Jeffree they will find any excuse to validate themselves liking him/purchasing his products. Just say you like him it’s ok, but don’t expect everyone to not think you support a racist/misogynist.
I feel like he's been trying to backpedal SO hard lately by shitting on companies that don't have a variety of darker foundation shades. It's definitely a problem in the makeup industry, but don't act like you care all of the sudden. It's like how he brags about his brand being CF, but then still buys/praises companies and products that aren't CF. If you really believe in CF why put money in the pockets of those companies? Why act like this is suddenly his hill to die on?
Also>I'm MEAN to people>Why do people think I'm mean??
is just so dumb.
OT, but why does shane dawson act like he's still poor all the time? It's clearly not just because jeffree has more money than him since does it in his other videos too.
Also, he needs to lose some weight. He's gonna end up gaining it all back.
I think it's just because he grew up a fat, relatively poor kid, and while he may not be poor anymore, he's still in the mindset?
Kind of like how sometimes someone who was fat and lost a lot of weight for whatever reason (puberty, becoming more active) still feel fat, even though they know, logically they aren't.
Oh don’t be fooled, that sub actually LOVES him and they are trying to justify liking him/buying his products without being labeled as racist.
Tbh, I don’t give a fuck if people want to buy his stuff, or express their love to JS. Just, don’t try to twist real events where he has been VERY racist and misogynistic so you won’t feel “guilty” supporting him.
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said, but also he just literally doesn't seem to ever buy anything. Like if you look at his videos he wears the same clothes every single day. He's not shy about how gross he is (wearing the same clothes everyday, not showering, not brushing his teeth). Seems like he only really buys Postmates and splurges on shit for his crew for videos. Even when he has a sponsored vid he uses the money for something crazy or donates it. (Bought a Jeep for that one guy, donated $30,000 to the Rescue where he got his second dog, etc).
Ryland and Morgan are the ones who are obsessed with Gucci and bougee shit. In the video where Ryland gets the G-Wagon Shane even says something like "I never spend money on myself because I have bills and people on my payroll and a mortgage, but you don't have any bills so you should do it!". So I would guess he's supporting Ryland and Morgan at the very least since they live with him, and probably his mom too. As well as paying Andrew for his work.
Didn’t you watch the series anon? Shane IS a ~beauty guru~ he’s going to have his own makeup line!
But yeah jokes aside I enjoy their videos just fine but the idea of being in a car with that many gross farty boys who only eat Chipoltle and don’t bathe makes me want to puke. I’d say I don’t know how Morgan puts up with it but she’s one of the grossest ones!
He's been on YT for years but he's never made money. His CPMs for adsense are shit and he's not brand/sponsor friendly.
Not only that, he started a company "Maker" with 2 other people that sold for 500 million, but he didn't get a single cent because he's dumbass.https://youtu.be/ut4rIGRJ-kU?t=30m7s
(he talks about Maker sellin for 500mil, not getting a cent, starts at 30:07)
Some other parts where he talks about not making much from adsensehttps://youtu.be/ut4rIGRJ-kU?t=17m2s
Starts at 17:02
JS and SD actually "collabing" to make a makeup palette, is anyone else bothered by this a little?
I get the initial idea was driven by filming documentary
and JS wants to do something nice for a friend
. But SD and Makeup? NO! I'm offended, actually.
Most of the time I feel that way about Garrett, but he really got under my skin after playing around in the lab. Especially after they even discussed the "rules" and was specifically asked not do do anything like that.
Idk it didn't sound that crazy or triggering
to me. These days literally anyone with money can hire a lab to launch a makeup product and a lot of them are Brand Themed (coca cola, crayola, marge simpson and even stuff like "Harry-potter-like" palettes and brushes) and they are successful (specially if the lab was good)
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I guess it depends on when Shane's was filmed, but I'm pretty sure Garrett's was well before all of that at least. He didn't seem like he really knew who Jeffree was, Ryland was the one who suggested he do him for the makeup video. This is the top comment on Garrett's. I couldn't find this original tweet because twitter's just flooded with people talking about how they want Garrett and Jeffree to fuck.>>661829
Yeah, it felt weird. Garrett truly seems like a very sweet silly guy, it felt like Jeffree was a child predator or something. Garrett seems to be attracted to more masculine men though, I don't think Jeffree would be his type.
He is actually cute but you have to take into consideration that any average man is put up as a "super hot" guy by youtube standards, not to mention Garret hangs around Shane, Ryland, Drew etc and they are all beneath Garret in terms of looks ngl if somebody were to rank them, Garret doesnt even act nor look straight compared to Shane for example who is the epitome of your average to ugly man who doesnt care about appearances (if you null out the obnoxious tripple double decker homo act hes put on in recent years) he is legit the straightest of them from appearances atleast.
Ryland lowkey gets under my skin since hes such a basic fag who tries
to be extra, One look at his channel with the thumbnails and music videos just cements how hard he tries to both work himself up to be a popular vloggy channel now that he has the resources, but he can't let go of his tackyness. Just like with most irrelevant people who gets with a youtuber, theres such an instant change and I just hope they all crash and burn with trisha & the rest cause honestly its all a big ball of cancer.
(also fml when will there be an apocalypse only targeted at the Viner immigrants who set up shop on YT)
Hmm 2 things stick out to me:
1) In "pt1" Andrew says he has never been to Jeffrey's house before, but we know he was over there with Garrett to shoot that makeup video
2) Jeffree acts like he has never met Garrett or Andrew before
Although, they could have all just been lying and putting on an act for some reason. I wouldn't put it past them. "Oh I just met J* and he let me cuddle with him on a dirty couch on the street, so humble, so normal"
Eh, those could go either way since apparently Garrett's video was filmed after the documentary, but what really fucks me up is SHANE acting like he had never met Jeffree before.
They have a collab from over a year ago reacting to hate videos but Shane in the documentary talks about how worried he was about filming with Jeffree in this documentary saying things like 'i didn't know if he was gonna judge me or if he was gonna be mean' telling him he had a whole different perception of him. As if it was the first time they had ever come face to face yet had collabed and clearly got along very well together in a year old video.
Not WKing but Most youtubers will say that filming one video with someone doesn’t mean you know them. In the video Shane even says he had been in the filming room and they reference that video multiple times. I mean he was probably there for like 4 hours. Not really long enough to get to know someone. >>662387
Eah Shane is probably “LA poor” but he’s said a few times he’s appreciative of what he has, he said something about “wearing rent” when he had that 2k hat on and 2-3k isnt too high for a house in the LA area.
Nta but I'm 99% sure he
doesn't rent unless he's talking about that other apartment he has. And since he's gone on 80 book tours, he has enough to postmate literally everything, his videos are starting to get monetized again, his merch is selling well, he had $10k to throw away on some random girl, etc. I doubt he's "LA poor"
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He is literally a leecher. Has been since the beginning. Piggybacking can be very successful when done correctly.
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Nah, all the "revolutionary" shit you're referring to existed in stage/theatrical makeup for decades already. It's not like he even made them more easily accessible to the public, because it all had to be ordered online anyways. That's a lot of what's so confusing to me about makeup trends these days. All of these "new" fads like contouring/highlighting, high coverage foundation, vast shade range etc have all existed for decades. My guess would be that since drag has become so much more main stream nowadays that that's why, and queens always used stage makeup out of necessity. It's the same as how phrases like "yas" or "tea" (as we now use it) have been super popular in recent years, but if you look at stuff like "Paris is Burning" or "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" those phrases were being used in the drag community even back in the 80s/90s and probably earlier. TL;DR basically everything being sold as "revolutionary" is just stolen from and existed in the drag community for decades, including Jeffree's whole persona but the only difference is he's a millionaire off of it.
But back to the question at hand, it still takes time most small businesses YEARS to turn a profit. If a successful company was investing it's own money in it he would obviously have to prove that he was worth that investment or have someone vouch for him who already has an in (KVD says this was her). If he put in $3K and they put in $20K and it was a giant flop, that would be a giant loss for them and why would they take that risk? It's not like just because he put his "last $3K" in with an already successful company they would pay him a living wage until it was finished or they made money. His persona was basically the whole selling point, and since it was sold online it's not like you would see it at CVS and go "Oh, I remember Jeffree from myspace, I'll give that a shot". As far as I can tell he didn't even start being a "youtube beauty guru" until about 2 years ago. At that point of starting his company, he was just a washed up "singer" and myspace personality, so other than using KVD's help and "in" (which he denies completely) how DID his makeup line become so successful? $3K to multi millions in a essentially 4 years ( >>656139
) by someone who constantly starts shit with other companies and essentially claims "Yup it was all me and no one else helped!" is highly suspicious imo. And Shane's series did nothing to clear this up, all it did was give him more of a platform to brag about how mean everyone is to him but he prevailed. Same as >>656028
he just seems like he just blames everyone else and is completely ungrateful to whoever did help him along the way, even though he's now a multi-millionaire.
I swear yall haven't read any of this thread because you're just asking the same questions already discussed.
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Also samefag, but what does this even mean? Because someone has a pink car they're copying him? Christ what a narcissist. I don't know if it's the outfit or the pose or what, but this is just such an awkward unflattering picture. Also I might be an idiot but is it a good idea to post someone license plate number to your millions of followers?
Oh yeah, for sure, but if you look at his video responding to KVD he basically denies that anyone helped him. Now Shane's given him even more of platform for that narrative. >>663415>>663418
Ooh, thanks for the info. iirc Sugarpill is still pretty popular in the drag community, and everyone seems to love the creator, so that's nice. I do feel like that explains it quite a bit, I remember the whole Limecrime hacking controversy going down, I didn't realize that they jumped ship to Jeff because of that. Interesting.
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Also just to clarify, I'm not a KVD stan by any means. I think she's just as nuts.
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Not sure if this is the right thread to discuss this in or the Celebricow one (she is dating? Tana and sells all of Tana's shit on her website), but speaking of celebrity makeup brands Bella Thorne seems to be off to a terrible start.>"Filthy Fangs">$50-$60 palettes on her website with only 9 shades>Apparently they're complete ripoffs of a black owned beauty brand "Juvia’s Place" but at double the cost.https://jezebel.com/a-guide-to-bella-thornes-recent-transformation-into-mes-1828327012
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is this dumb bitch really trying to sell repackaged EOS lip balms with her name on it? lmao
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I can't keep up with all the Laura Lee / Jeffree Star / Gabriel Zamora shit, seems like it's just Oops! All Racists!
Jeffree just can't not start shit it seems. He really could have used Shane's exposure to be a better person. I'm counting down the days until he fips on Shane. It's only a matter of time.
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I only lasted about 3 seconds. She sounds like what this picture looks like.
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Incoming dump of new shitty tweets, didn’t know where to post them, so im archiving them here
*none of these tweets have been brought up by any drama channel or called out or posted on twitter, and all them are still posted on their respective twitter pages
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And the last one….this is the only tweet that has been posted/“called out” on twitter out of the tweets above, a screenshot of someone else screenshot
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And Gabriel Zamora using manny’s tweet in his apology
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Sorry forgot this one too
How is so pigmented Manny's phrase when literally most gurus use it? It's like that Jordan bitch who says Manny copied "brutally honest" from her. He uses the phrase for merch, but Manny is an idiot for never trademarking it. Snooze ya lose.>>668805>>660888
J Star calls other people cunts, he called Laura Lee evil. It's not exclusive to black women. Rats historically is NOT an insult that was created to be directed towards the black community, rats is associated with what people called/call Jews.
Jackie Aina literally doxxed another Youtuber for fraud that had absolutely no legitimate proof. Idk how people can take her side over J Star after she pulled that shit and did a half assed apology after the damage was already done. She's just as sneaky as J Star and also loves to stir up drama.
I just wanted them archived in case they were deleted, I think the worst out of them are the ones where Nikita is shitting on sex workers/black and Asian semi-racist tweets and Gabriel using fag, the other ones are just similar to the other exposed tweets and way more mild obviously.
Ie. “Fat” shaming tweets (like Laura lee’s)
And the photoshopping ones I just thought were ironic since they both sh00p the fuck out their photos>>669538
Yeah I know, but a lot of these beauty gurus are
sjw’s and all their followers are majority pro-sexworkers anti-racist pro-lgbtqrstuv pro-trans bodi posi sjw tumblrinas/instathots. If you’ve ever been to or seen one of their “fan meet ups”, the fans who attend (in multiple cities in the US and UK) fit that discription to a T. So they would get offended over this shit, and probably lose they’re shit over less, since theyre obsessing over minor call-outs right now on twitter, after all the big juicy receipts came out. ESP surrounding nikita, I’ve noticed, who ironically has a lot of fans who do sex work themselves.
Apologies for dump anon but imgur kept crashing on my mobile
He said another friend (not kat) lend him the money????
That's still shady to say he's "self made" cause he's admitted to taking money from friends
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Oof, this Nikita person gives me major “haha I’m more woman than u bitch ;)” kinda vibe. Like trannies that just hates women and just wants to upstage them. “Pussy stuntin’” like nah man you still have a penis.
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Eh, stupid and annoying, but literally everyone talked like that in that time period? That was at the tail end of the Myspace days, all anyone did on Myspace was to try and prove who could be the biggest edgelord. >>669573
No idea, never seen a vid of his but I've definitely heard other gurus say it particularly when using his palette
I also just overall don't get the mentality of "CANCELING" a person even if they apologize? Even with Jeffree people are still screaming about his racist past on twitter. I'm not a stan at all, I think he's fake as fuck but how are people supposed to grow and learn if we don't give them a chance to? I guess it depends on how real the apology feels – Jeff trying to justify his actions on Shane's video saying "I wasn't even calling a black person that!" feels like he's just making it worse. Idk, there's plenty of OPENLY racist people nowadays, if they see people still piling on people who have changed their tune, why would they ever bother changing?
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>>670709>Raise your hand if you were ever called a slut, whore, fag, n-word (still not gonna do it lmao), cunt, anorexic, fat, etc regardless of skin tone, sexuality, weight or sexual experience between 2005 - 2010ish>Raise your hand if you heard or made or laughed at a rape joke or race specific joke in that time.
Those insults didn't even make sense in the context most of the time. Just ways for shitty kids to be cruel or edgy or try and fit in.
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Kek. Also did anyone watch Jeffree's most recent video "REVEALING MY LAST DARK SECRETS…"? I don't want to give him the clicks.
he lied and said his aunt was actually his mom when as of last december he hadn't spoken to his mom and ten years, and the last time he self harmed was 3 years ago
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It took him a 30 min vid to say that? Also the mom thing is confusing. Why would he lie about that? Wasn't get going off in Shane's thing about how his Mom was sucking dick and doing drugs all the time or something?
Also this thumbnail is so dumb. He tryna be moe or some shit?
I agree. Maybe it's just because I was in school during the early 00s and everyone was still using "that's so gay" as an insult and calling things retarded, but I also think that what >>670709
said is very important. Most people have done shitty things in their past, but you can't go back and undo them. All you can do is do better, so that's what I look for in a person rather than giving a shit about years old stuff being dredged up. I dunno if I'd say Jeffree is trying to do better these days, I haven't really paid attention to him.
Besides I've always thought that Kat Von D practically being a Nazi sympathizer was much more serious than anything J's ever done, but barely anyone seems to care about that. Kat's never been "cancelled".
Wha? I haven't heard of that, sure you're not thinking of the LimeCrime lady? Also KVD has most def been cancelled by everyone since she went pubic with her whole "I'm not gonna vaccinate my baby fuck yall" stance. (See: >>663717
Definitely KVD (although I think Doe Deere had a Nazi costume incident?), this site outlines everything: https://forward.com/schmooze/403064/makeup-mogul-kat-von-d-blasted-for-anti-vaxx-where-was-the-anger-when-she/
She literally named a lipstick after the word Nazis used to choose who was going to die in concentration camps
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The photo she left her old boss Ami James is pretty antisemitic
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This will probably make me sound like a wk, but I also really don't get why these "insults" are so career ending… I live in germany and nobody would blink an eye at you for using "gay" as something negative, people still do that regularly.>>673373>She literally named a lipstick after the word Nazis used to choose who was going to die in concentration camps
Very far-fetched, "Selektion" has many different meanings, nobody would even think of the holocaust when hearing it.
>In another murky example of her alleged anti-Semitism, Von D apparently developed a lipstick color called “Selektion,” a German word that is now considered taboo
Again, completely false, e.g. pic related, you can use it just fine.
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Do people actually like Rich Lux? He's listed as a source for info somewhere in the megathread >>673995
suggested. I guess I don't really get his whole….character? It doesn't seem like he actually says anything that interesting, just tries to talk shit just for the sake of it. Am I missing something?
She dated an outspoken antisemite too didn't she?
So glad a lot of people are finally over her though
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Completely unrelated to the content…..but what is this girl's accent? Also I don't know anything about Jaclyn Hill but did she get a bad nosejob? Why does everything about her look so fake?
BTS accent: I actually don’t know, but I can understand her so I don’t really care for her thick accent.
Jaclyn Hill: I actually used to defend her because I couldn’t believe it was possible to be in so many scandals and thought people were lying about her this whole time. Turns out I was a fool and she is indeed a shady, money hungry scammer. I’m at the mobile site, I will try to write a quick post about all the scandals she’s been in later.
One thing for sure, she always throws brands that collab with her under the bus.
Latest one is her telling her fans to “scrap” the top of the eyeshadow collab she did with Morphe (The Vault). When the Vault first launched, it tanked so hatd, so many people didn’t like it and thought it was patchy mess. She then blamed the manufacturer at Morphe and they had to pull the palette for three months to “reformulate and repress”. Three months later, nothing changed and the collection is still a mess. She’s trying to cover her ass by telling buyers to “scrap off” the eyeshadow lmao. Many people in their reviews asked if Jaclyn even swatchd the shadows on her eyes. Judging by the leaked emails, she only does hand swatches and is good to go! Even the MUG employee had to beg her to swatch the samples on her eyes.
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Thoughts on john maclean?
can't stand the fake exaggerated accent he does. all his makeup looks are the same. not into it
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This chick has a YouTube but is more popular on instagram…something about her face is so fucked up to me. She swears she doesn’t use hard drugs despite being rail thin and having horrible teeth… idk what to think about her other than she’s pretty offensive looking and has horrible style
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She also has horrible fashion taste imo
i've also followed her for a few years! she doesn't seem like the druggie type to me. She explains her teeth in a video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRdHy5fJw0c&t=112s
she seems awkward af, but she seems like she just grew up in a household where oral health wasnt a big issue.
if she was on harder drugs i feel like she wouldn't be able to keep up with a youtube channel/social media in general. even if she did, it would show more obvious signs.
tinfoiling here but i just think she's a stoner girl who forgets to snack and just keeps up the smol ass body.
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sage, but this was in the comments on that video. probably not a dash account but w/e.
But yeah she's high as fuck in that video.
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tried my darnedest to get a shot of her eyes without the insane ring light reflection.
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You don’t get this thin from forgetting to snack
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>>676101>How much for you to say you bought this with your own money and this is not sponsored?>$25K for one mention in a multi-branded review video>Some people with 200K instagram followers can make $50k-60k for one insta post
Damn. She does ramble on a bit, but this was a pretty educational video. I thought I had a vague understanding of how sponsorships/ads worked with influencers on youtube, but apparently not. This explains a lot. >>674634
This one too. I guess I thought influencers got paid from adsense and some paid ads here or there but really only if you were a big name. And I didn't know it was THAT much money just for mentions or one insta post. Good to know not to trust anyone now!
>Pic related me thinking about how many dumb shitty insta posts I make for lulz and how some people could pay off my student loans and still have enough left over to pay for 4 years of my rent with just one insta post
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Peter Monn as well. I've watched a couple vids of theirs here and there, but I don't get it? They don't seem like they have exorbitant amounts of views but it seems like the comments will be like>holy shit rich lux/peter monn covered _______!!!!
Just cause they talk about youtube drama? Peter has 161K followers and is hanging out with Shane and crew? Rich Lux has 190K was personally invited by Jeffree to hang out in his hotel room? I just don't get what's going on. Seems like they should just be any other nobodies making reaction videos or something.
Apparently Manny Mua got paid 70k by Lilly Lashes to bash Lashify. I knew his video review was fishy because he didn't want to ~read the manual. He didn't mention Lilly Lashes but he put their affiliate link into his description lmao
Here's the insiders comment from Reddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/BeautyGuruChatter/comments/9b8up9/pretty_pastel_please_talking_about_undisclosed/e52ji4m>Ugh this is all true. I worked as an intern at APA and remember a phone call I put through for his manager Cristina closing a deal with Lilly Lashes. He got paid 70k to bash them. Y’all remember Manny’s negative review of Lashify lashes???? Paid for by Lilly Ghalichi.
Here's Mannys bash video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4USfoNOoy0
And here's Pretty Pastel Please video about it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjzuefWqVY8
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I just watched TeaSpill's vid on Morphe/Jaclyn Hill. I've never followed JH or anything but goddamn I cannot wait until we get away from this phase of makeup. This is the kind of shit everyone is going to look at 5 years from now and be embarrassed of. That much highlight and contour and such heavy eye makeup is meant for drag and not day to day wear. This doesn't even look like a human face anymore. I'm also so tired of the giant nude/greige lipstick phase that just makes you look dead or dehydrated. She and Jeffree etc etc just look like straight up aliens to me at this point. At least with Jeff I feel like that's kind of what he's going for.
I've only ever tried like one Glossier thing and it was just fine but I'm glad they're kind of leading the charge towards the more natural look, even if their ads are the most exaggerated version of that.
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Just kidding last thing I promise. They also show a clip of JH from back in the day and holy shit. I've only ever really seen her popping up in her current form, I had no idea she used to look like this, she's unrecognizable. She went WAY too hard with the fillers.
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I feel like people have already disavowed her shit over the vaccine thing? I tried the tattoo liner in the past and decided to try it again because of that one review. Still doesn't seem like it's anything revolutionary, so I definitely won't buy it again now. That post was the most self-pitying bullshit I've ever seen>And, if you don’t know what it’s like to have the entire world openly criticize, judge, throw uninformed opinions, and curse you — try being an openly pregnant vegan on Instagram, having a natural, drug-free home birth in water with a midwife and doula, who has the intention of raising a vegan child, without vaccinations.
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Nobody is really talking about this but since dramagedon Manny has continued to fuck up his rep. I'm not even talking about the fact he posted his pathetic scripted apology, this time he's posted a "self help" video about betterhelp.
Yes, affiliate link included. No different than the shit jaclyn glenn and laineybot have pulled in the past.
I first watched one of his videos ages ago to see what he had to say about eyebrows. In that video he drew them on like you'd rough sketch an eyebrow on paper??
He's obviously Scottish and he's trying really hard to sound aristocratic or some shit like that.
His makeup's really too much aimed at trans guys, I think. I notice he uses theatrical cosmetics from Charles Fox.
It's pretty remarkable how he goes from a fug ginger to a passable female. I learned nothing useful from him and he's annoying af. I briefly subscribed, then unsubbed.
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For real, I've never seen a dude with typical glam Instagram makeup on that didn't look fucking absurd. It's one of those things on social media that make me feel like Will Ferrel in Zoolander when I see a guy with a full face of makeup on and the responses are 'GORGEOUS!!!!!' 'Omfg girl you slaying this look' 'I'm a girl and you look way better than me with makeup on lol'
Like are we looking at the same thing? It must be disingenuous and these girls feel like they have
to think these guys look good or they'll be called homophobic or whatever, but come on, who are you kidding? They look so stupid it makes my stomach churn. And why did the one community pretty much only for females have to get flooded with flamboyant gay men taking it over, starting fuck tons of drama, and most of the time acting like bullies, while promoting the ugliest makeup looks and if you say anything you're homophobic?
You can't fucking tell me this shit doesn't look ridiculous.
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They did the same thing with modeling, filled it up with 12 yo boy looking women, now they're replacing them with semi-passing, blow up doll looking transgenders and the women who're left are morbidly obese/bad built with bad skin. People are praising it because "equality" but nah, it's something else there. And those dudes love those "Hehe, you look better than me in makeup, and I'm a girl!" comments. Their fugly makeup looks will always get excused once they pull out the homophobe card, and will ruin female MUA's career over something so stupid.
Yas, slay girl, indeed.
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Reminds me of that one Eurovision guy. I mean, the technique and artistry is great and all, but it's just so jarring.
It does seem like some kind of absurd type of sexism. All over the world women wear makeup. Yet the handful of men who do as well are the ones who immediately shoot to fame. Most female beauty gurus are at least semi attractive, but those gay dudes can be as ugly as they want. Most women who talk as openly about sex and being slutty as them also never make it that far.>>688823
I feel like he makes a show about how 'manly' he is despite dressing feminine, constantly says "I'm a man" etc. He also doesn't outright admit that he's a fag, so his female teen fans think they've still got a chance.
I feel like this got swept under the rug as well, and it's absolutely bonkers
Part 2: https://youtu.be/Bzeok2B7__Q
Part 3: https://youtu.be/hRAGoUK6IVs
(Also touches on him trademarking Manny's shit >>665869
Jeffree publicly shit talks and bullies Filipino youtuber Michelle Dy for "stealing his series" by using the word "approved" and threatens her with legal action saying that "Jeffree Star Approved" is trademarked in America even though
1. It wasn't at the time he threatened her
2. She doesn't live in America
3. She was using "MD Approved" not "Jeffree Star Approved" obviously
4. Other (white) youtubers (he's friends with) have done "xx Approved" videos before and he said nothing.
She ended up taking down 2 videos she posted and apologizing to JS on twitter after insane harassment from JS's fans, Can you imagine being so up your own ass that you think you own/created the concept of approval/disapproval and no one else in the entire world can use it?? Or the color pink? >>663339
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He comin after Smart Cat next
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Oh, also turns out Tati Westbrook has had the copyright for "Tati Approved" since April 2018, Jeffree didn't apply for "Jeffree Star Approved" until August 2018. He threatened MD with legal action in July.
I thought it also had to do with her being best buds with Gabby also? Like, Gabby didn't call her out in his vid like he did with Laura/Manny iirc.
I mean I know her apology wasn't great either but tbh the argument of "I was a different person back then" is a much stronger argument coming from her than from other people probably. I think it just comes down to Laura and Manny being so full of shit in comparison.
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Yes, who else would I be talking about in that context?
>"her"?>tranny>Just because he's mtf
Come on now, this is stupid. It's not like she's some tumblr fakeboi going through a phase. I thought we were past this.
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Elle S gets on my fucking nerves she's so easily triggered, defensive and has this low key humble brag attitude when she acts like she's so cool and unique. Too attention starved and boring. She's also such a fake ass SJW. Kek I really can't stand her.
Girls with tiny turtle upper lips wearing dark af lip shades trigger
>>691444>Yes, who else would I be talking about in that context?
I mean, if you're using "she" I would expect it to be laura or something, not a man.
>It's not like she's some tumblr fakeboi going through a phase
They're all the same. He looks like a drag queen/a gross, sexist caricature a la Gregory.
Literally if I passed this person on the street I would just think "lady" and keep walking. Why would I waste the mental energy on the entire history of their genitals? nta but I agree with >>691872
there's plenty to criticize without being as personally invested in their crotch as you are, anon.
Oh hell yes, I've clicked on this bitch's videos so many times because she has interesting titles and video ideas, and I can't learn a fucking lesson. I cannot make it through one of her videos all the way through, I quit halfway through or just skip around because she's so boring and yet infuriating at the same time. Everything you said is true, but she also is just so full of herself when she talks about her makeup inspirations 'I'm really inspired by this classical painter or the Baroque era or this totally obscure Dutch artistic movement from the 18th century' like come on. You blended some blue and green, get over yourself.
Also, she talks until she's completely out of breath, gulps in some air, and then talks non-stop again. Like girl, learn how to breathe and talk at the same time, holy shit.
Fuck I love minsooky but I feel like she is edgy ass hell at the moment. Always saying she is poor, trying to sound like she is not acting like a basics artsy White girl with her road trip . ( her channel, she is truly talented : https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC4_I3wwF9lv_q3nCeEdPXaw
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Have we reached a verdict on shane dawson being discussed here? His new series looks like it will be a shitshow.
And he looks like a disgusting foot as per usual.
Can't wait to hear him pander see him slouch and watch him pick his chin the whole time. Also fuck Jake Paul is this how he finally gets on the trending page since he bitches about YouTube not promoting him?
I like Shane but Jake Paul does not need empathy or whatever the fuck spin he'll put. I wish they were still doing the Morgan Moving Out Saga. Why does she always sound so off her face slurring all the time?
i've never understood why so many people give shane an immunity shield for criticism. he got famous for making dead hooker jokes, racial jokes, and sexist jokes at the expense of his female friends, and anytime i've pointed it out i just get "lol he's just joking though" or "you know he's gay right?"
like i'd understand if the people that defend him just don't have a problem with offensive humor for anyone, but that's not the case. it's often people who are willing to call out plenty of other youtubers for being ~problematic
~ but for shane it's different somehow. why is that?
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I thought the Graveyardgirl one was good though, it actually made me sympathize with her because she's clearly losing her mind and actually needs help. Jeffree and Tana etc are just fake idiots, Jeffree especially. I bet it's gonna be a lot of>I showed that body in the forest because I wanted to make people laugh!!! bro>I have feelings too no homo
When is he gonna do Onion tho? He must have considered it, right? >>691380
I can't stand his constant refrain of "I'm too busy being successful" and then pulling this nonsensical shit. I can't wait until he turns on Shane. Shane's series has only made him more awful and self-righteous.>>695213
Wait, are they really not doing that anymore? I find Morgan and Ryland both pretty obnoxious, but it's absolutely absurd that he got attacked for asking his 21 year old mooch of a sister who's been living on their floor for months to move out, especially since she has money (from Shane essentially, since that's the only reason she has subscribers) and is basically being offered an insane multi-level apartment that Shane's not even using. People are upset that a 30 year old wants to live alone with his boyfriend and not have his lazy dropout kid sister living there for free anymore? I guess it's because all their fans must be tweens, so they can't fathom that Morgan is a human disaster and has made 0 effort to get her shit together. Moving out would be the LEAST she could do to repay them.>>695217
not tru anon, if you watched the Jeffree series you know Shane is a huge beauty guru, why else would he get his own eyeshadow palette??
i think alot of it (outside of his pandering) is that he's been around for along time, he started out with the "i dont care' shock humor everyone did at the time, but had the chance and gained the popularity that he had to change to stay relevant, so he did.
shit in the past means literally nothing if he's not out here scamming people out of their money or something, and he's not. Tana did, Jeffree lies all the time, Morgan and Ryland were spoiled kids all their lives its easy to tell but thats about it for them (but i dont watch them anyway i cant stand morgan)
I think alot of people like to like shane because the content he's making lately is better and more entertaining then the stuff we are used to on youtube as well (the docu-series stuff) he's not problematic
now? he doesnt make racist or homophobic joke/slurs now? pretty sure on a few podcasts he's explained why he used that humor and why he wont anymore
seems like people just wanna shit on him because he's popular? if you have receipts of him being shit bring it and show people why he shouldn't be so liked? (also not trying to wk just playing devils advocate here)
John Maclean is actually a troll!
Back in the earlier days of the internet, John was actually a campy cybergoth who took up this persona as a way of having his own shtick in a sea of campy gay makeup artists.
This is just a persona for income. I dig it.
I think he gets a pass because he "matured" and changed with the times and because he's been so open with his ed. Plus he's openly gay which means lots of people, especially young women, will overlook his faults.
The thing I really don't understand is why his fans seem to believe he's super sweet, genuine and innocent. He always comes across as kind of douchey and self absorbed to me. I feel like it would be so draining to be his friend as he's constantly acting out and bringing up how much he hates his body. If he acts like that in videos I can't imagine how much worse he is during his day to day.
Hes openly bisexual and it took him two seconds to go from a sorta effeminate dude to turning into an obnoxious stereotype of gay men. I have never heard someone repeat dead jokes as many times as him and people still find it funny.
His interview bullshit is such pandering garbage and people calling it in anyway good really are scraping the bottom of the barrell bc all i saw was cringy shit interactions adults who never emotionally or mentally matured past teen hood.
he was poor how many years ago and still defaults to using it in his schticks, self deprecating jokes (usually the same ones like not bathing, wearing black, dirty shirts n not caring, gainging weight) and generally trying to as faggy as he can.
I hate how amped up his whole shitty personality has gotten just to match his transition into a gay relationship v conventienrly at the cusp of when lgbt junk became popular on YT.
i imagine the video personality is really over blown like alot of other popular youtubers, he honestly comes off as lazy and an easy quitter to me, and self absorbed but what youtuber with over a mil subscribers isnt now a days really? i imagine the reason he doesnt have friends tho is because he's really hard to deal with day to day as i imagine like you said the "im fat, omg, SCREEEEECH" would be enough for most people to nope the fuck out of interactions with him
his coming out stuff, he's already said on the nojumper podcast he doesn't really know what sexuality he leans, he's still confused over it because he likes men more, but still really likes to have sex with girls. so yes he IS bi, but the over blown-ness might be because he feels more comfortable about being that way now? i always imagined he was the over-effeminate type of gay when he was younger and it kinda proved me right in later years, and at least the guy can make fun of himself for how over-dramatic he made it back then too
and his docu-series is objectively better then alot of shit on youtube (that includes his normal vloggy stuff), regardless if anything comes from it or not have you seen the shit on that site lately? it's all commentary channels, shitty podcasts and highstyle wanna be vloggers
like he's over-rated but he doesnt seem like an actual shitty person y'know? I dont understand the seething hate or the overblown love, i kinda like his content and he matured, but he's like… bottom of the barrel milk, only thing there to hate is that he's cringy and pandering, like phillip defranco, who i would argue was just as bad in the past and is now 10x more pandering and cringy then shane
>>695749>his docu-series is objectively better then alot of shit on youtube
That doesn't really say anything. Putting forth more effort than your average daily vlogger =/= quality lol.
Real shit: the only reasons why his videos are being shilled as good are>A. 99% of the shilling is done by his vast legion of obnoxious, easily impressed 12 y/o fans who never shut up online and>B. as you mentioned, Youtube is a hellscape right now and his non-conspiracy/spooky clickbait videos have higher production value than the majority of content on the platform.
In reality, his videos are mediocre at best and a good chunk of those depressed tween girls who make kpop crack videos have objectively better editing skills than both him and andrew. So sick of people hyping him up.
That’s why I said objectively, because everyone is going to have different tastes for what they like and what they consider “quality content”
And with how horrible everything is on YouTube at least it’s not the same shit that’s normally being pushed to the front page, I won’t lie and say it’s the best, but it is the only thing I’m subbed to him for
Mind you this will be a new trend in of itself soon and be just as tired and lame as everything else on the site
Once this new series comes out I kind of feel like this will be the last one he’ll really grab views with and it’ll be done, and he’s not going to be nearly as popular into next year like he was with this year
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samefag, but here is Jackie response to this whole scandal
(Apparently he also accused her of tax evasion and started up rumors about her wedding and shit? What a sad human)
apparently they have been friends for years,so I can definitely see J getting comfortable talking like that with someone he's been friends with for so long. Gabbie even admitted it (before he got scared and said he lied to get on Jeffree's said) he admitted that J
still uses that language around his clique
Also j* is really not that smart concerning his racist behavior. He called Jackie and Shayla rats (referencing hoodrat) and threatened to beat Shayla up even if he went to jail for it. This all happened recently too, not a "10 years ago" incident
You know why he thinks he is powerful and can get away with it? Because he apparently pays people to dig dirt on everyone (remember when he leaked Nikkitutorials contract with Too Faced? Yeah), his rabid and obsessive fans are also his strongest weapon. It took only less than two days before they dug out dirt on every member of his ex-friends (Laura, Manny, Nikkita, and Gabbie)
He used to work with Laura and Nikkita even before he stopped working with J, read the messages carefully and look at the one where the hairstylist talking about slaying Laura's hair. J
didn't have a problem until the hairstylist posted pictures of his work on Jackie.
Also just a quick reminder, it's none of J business to dictate who the stylist should be working with or not, and jeopardizing their friendship over professional work is really manipulative of J
. I can see why the hairstylist felt played and angry at Jeffree. Not that I care, fuck them both anyway
Yeah, that whole "delete the picture of that person so it's not next to a picture of me and then I'll re-follow you" is some insane manipulative shit. I mean unless he had him on retainer and was paying him, there's no way he can expect that of someone. I think it's fair to question the stylists motives, especially cause he basically said he was gonna start his own youtube channel and if he got enough followers he would do ~story time~. And it seems like he was going along with Jeff's behavior until he stopped getting paid, but either way Jeffree is trash, so if someone is able to profit off of showing how shitty he is, good for him. Shane's gonna have to do a whole new docu-series every time his racist shit is exposed. Honestly, how hard is it to not drop the n-bomb around everyone constantly?>>691380>>696201
good thing he's too busy being minding his own business and being successful to directly start petty drama! god he's so full of shit. Someday he'll find this thread and then his lawyers will be in touch with each and everyone of us
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I really can't stand Rich Lux but his vids always pop up in my recommended so sometimes I skip around on them. He's definitely jumped ship and turned super biased towards J★ since he hung out with Jeff that one time. His 2 recent videos on the matter have just been him basically crying FAKE NEWS and saying "hairstylists should have doctor-patient confidentiality with their clients!! Jeff's the victim here!! these are OBVIOUSLY fake texts". Jeffree definitely knows what he's doing to shine himself in the best possible light.
I agree that the stylist guy is obviously being opportunist, but that doesn't make any of his claims less true. If this was the first time Jeff was accused of this shit, maybe, but why would the 2043rd person accusing Jeff of racism so unbelievable? How is fucking Rich being any less opportunist by making clickbait videos about J★ with like 15 ads each?
considering how fast he turned and dropped JK when shit went south during the JK/Peter Monn fiasco, everyone should have seen how snakey he was.
I liked his friend, the drag queen he has on with him and they do the gossip chats but even those are mostly talking shit with no receipts so no one should ever take him seriously, fuck the man sits in front of a camera pretending to be a "youtube celebrity gossip channel" with giant ass white triangles on his face and lashes the size of tarantulas.
I feel sorry for the idiots that can believe him and take his word for truth
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He's also in Bunny's most recent video? I didn't watch the full video, I just scrubbed through to confirm that was him, cause….why? They both live in Texas and are obnoxious so they're best buds now?
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I've heard so much shady shit about HFFT2, and I'm not surprised she dropped this the second Jaclyn started crying "booolie"
It really sucks tho because I actually got pumped for this hoping to finally get a full-all-receipt Jaclyn expose but now… ahh well
What have you heard about hftt?
I’m also disappointed she fell for jh’s manipulation. She’s just looking for a valid reason to quit yt anyways. She barely even makes videos anymore so idk why she cared so much about this specific series.
mostly just rumor stuff from around twitter, she's on there all the time, and most of the beauty gossip commentators follow her (like i said i HEARD shady shit)
I'm not going to take the stuff JK said about her seriously because he has a bad habit of calling anyone who says boo to him a pedo, but the stuff i heard was
>steals/doesnt/didnt credit receipts from other youtubers>Talked a lot of mad shit about everyone in the beauty gossip community and lost alot of friends
(I've actually seen a few people admit they didnt follow or watch her stuff because of shit she pulled in the past, pretty sure one was Tawny Michelle but I could be wrong)>would post fake/bad receipts and info without researching properly>Known for starting witch hunts with Dustin Dailey against people in the community they didnt like, mostly smaller sub count people or people like Mango Tea
(The MT stuff was pretty good tho imo)>Known for having a really stand-offish, know it all bitch attitude with everything and everyone
I wouldn't take any of that as truth, but it's what I've personally heard and seen from twitter and youtube. I follow her and pretty much everyone in that comm. so I can probably do some digging and see if I can find anything concrete, same goes for any other anon who wants to look into it.
But from what I've seen she's not very popular among some her peers, they seem to shit-talk without @ at her often.
no prob anon! And yeah pretty much, she has a habit of getting into or making 'cliques' with certain youtubers, I've seen her lash out a few times, never @ at people but just bitching to her followers and you can tell who's part of her group of friends because they always be shading people without naming them like they know who she's bitching about.
I really dont have anything concrete atm but I'm hoping she hasnt deleted anything so maybe I can see if my claims can be backed up
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from what i’ve seen she’s your typical batshit crazy narc/bpd cow. i’ve been following some of her drama on gg. pretty lulzy, though i get kind of stressed out from how much of a volatile sourcunt she is lol. she claims to spill tea but all i see is milk.
she made an entire video on the most
minuscule shit about jeffree star because she was butthurt he unfollowed her. that combined with how she seems to block people left right and center for daring to disagree with her on twitter but supposedly unblocked a girl just to call her a cunt after a comment she made on someone else’s post really speaks to just how petty, infantile and plain retarded she is.
i also find it funny that she comes for other girls’ looks when she has a face like this lmao. no wonder she’s so bitter. she failed as a beauty youtuber and decided to start crawling up the asses of people who succeeded. she‘ll happily talk shit about people only to turn around and thoroughly rim their asshole in a heartbeat. a literal parasite.
Oh wow, so everything I saw is probably right then? KEK fantastic. I heard she was known for being a super bitch and had seen some of her bitchfests but where i'm not a real fan (i just like tea) I try to not pay her much mind because the things I heard where hard to confirm but hard to ignore too, I'm really gonna have fun digging
And holy shit now I know why she goes through such lengths to keep her face off youtube and twitter now… unfortunate
Tbh this doesn't really seem like milk to me. Their channels are about drama and rumors, of course they're gonna be shady? This is like saying "I heard TMZ might be shady!!". I just like her vids because it's less conjecture and whining like Rich Lux and the likes. I was really looking forward to a deep dive into the history of JH.
Also what minuscule Jeffree videos are you talking about? Jeff is an insufferable cunt who is the shadiest of all of them and constantly snaps at his fans for no reason. All the vids I've seen on Jeff have been him being legitimately shady.
>>698603>Also what minuscule Jeffree videos are you talking about? Jeff is an insufferable cunt who is the shadiest of all of them and constantly snaps at his fans for no reason. All the vids I've seen on Jeff have been him being legitimately shady.
oh trust me i hate jeffree and think he deserves to be ripped a new one at every twist and turn but anyone with half a brain could tell what her true motive was for making that vid. he’d literally just made an ig comment along the lines of “don’t be sorry if you missed one of too faced’s holiday palettes because they all look the same.” on a trendmood post. then she tried to twist that into him somehow going back on his apology about past racism which is just absurd.
jeffree is shady as shit and has done a ton of gross things and continues to do so and yet, instead of going for any of that to make a decent vid that’s actually worth watching, she scrambled for the first littlest shady thing he did after he unfollowed her. i dislike jeffree and love too faced but c’mon now.
wasn't posting milk, was asked for a summary of what I meant (because i had heard she was super shady) and posted said summery
I think she's got milk, just what >>698585
said with the blocking, unblocking just to call a girl a cunt, and the very obvious shit talking she does on twitter for everyone to see, is milky. Bitch can't handle an opinion that isnt hers.
Was also sure she was up J* ass before she started posting call out vids on him, I guess after she got blocked, again, pretty milky. She only does this for the vendetta
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Right but, can you link the video? I'm not doubting you, I just wanna see what you're talking about.>>698611>>698603
Sure, that makes sense. I just can't believe yall are talking about this instead of how Laura Lee is back and Jeffree is now accusing her PR team of hiring his ex-stylist to spread lies about him so she could make a comeback. I don't care about LL or his stylist either way, but honestly Jeffree is the most self-obsessed cow and his fans just feed his delusion.
Also just in general I'm so fucking tired of all these gurus constantly involving themselves in and instigating drama and their refrain of "I'm just living my life too busy for all that drama!". (Not just JS but he seems to do it the most)
here you go fam.
full disclosure i haven’t watched it but the snippets of it in other people’s vids, rants on twitter and the comment section say it all lmao
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Honestly all of her big points in the video are 100% valid. She literally never said that the TooFaced comment had anything to do with race? She's talking about how he's a giant hypocrite. He made a huge dramatic PR public declaration that he was never gonna be involved in or perpetuate drama (in his Racism apology video) and then immediately left a public shady comment about a company he had a history of beef with. And then he went on to make several snapchat vids continuing to shit talk the brand….again, right after his huge dramatic declaration of "NO MORE DRAMA!!".
Also watching it with today's context….she's not wrong about anything? >Obviously he did not stick to his promise of never instigating drama again, lmao>Jeffree shading TooFaced for "acting like they own Unicorns" when he literally threatened legal action against a guru for using the word "Approved" a few months ago ( >>691380 )> (Also TooFaced owned the rights to "Unicorn Tears" at the time Jeff was accusing them of "Acting like the own Unicorns", Jeff didn't even own the rights to "Jeffree Star Approved" when he threatened legal action against the girl for using the term "Approved" on his channel)>Shading TooFaced for deleting a tweet "if you had the balls to tweet that in your mansion you should have the balls to keep it up on your instagram. People want receipts always!" >Jeffree, in his giant mansion, CONSTANTLY deletes his tweets.
I mean, I guess I could see where right after this video was released it might have seemed like a lil bit of a stretch, but she didn't turn out to be incorrect about anything she was accusing Jeff of. I would just say you should probably watch it before you start making accusations.
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Well, I would assume her mental state is (in part) BECAUSE of the Part 1. I'm sure there was going to be more parts, cause she just kind of scratched the surface of JH in the first part.
I could see where >Divorce>Bad reviews of her product line>Multiple channels revealing her shady behavior>Everyone calling her money hungry and two-faced>And now series promised to be probably at least 2 hours just focusing on how bad of a person she is
could make someone lose their mind. I still don't like JH though.
Pic related, JH doing her Morphe collab
I agree. She’s the most interesting hag in my opinion right now that hasn’t been milked to death.
Apparently she started out trying to be a beauty guru and failed? Anyone know more about this?
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James Charles is the worst. He tried to contact Netflix just a few days ago because he found out that Marlena from MakeupGeeks was making a documentary about influencers with Netflix. Everything must be about him to the point where he discredits other people like Marlena by stating that she is a bad business woman
Those messages look very fake and I’m suspicious of when he posted them. >>696097
Jackie accused a YouTuber of stealing her personal info, reported her video because she didn’t like it and has yet to make a full apology. J * is a petty asshole but don’t pretend that Jackie Aina is this saint or better than him.
Supposedly James charges even more than that. I think there is a reason he is so defensive about her video.
But regardless of that, he is being petty as fuck over Netflix deciding they'd rather work with a brand owner than a little boy that lied about how he got into the industry
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It seems she responded.
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What looks fake about them? There's clearly conversation happening before and after what he shows, it's not an isolated text of Jeff saying the n-word or something. People screaming Fake News at this are just doing exactly what Jeffree wants them to do. Yeah, Daved is clearly doing this for fame, but that doesn't make the texts any less real? Jeffree literally has a proven history of saying racist things and being shitty, why is it so hard to believe even more proof that he's said racist things and is shitty?
I get that certain eyes looks aren't going to look good or apply well on everyone, but for real I wish Tati would do a larger variety of looks. I can only watch so many product reviews that are 80% story time 15% talking about the product and 5% showing application techniques if which,
0.0001% percent of them are mildly different from other looks
Like even some good color theory/mixing for eyeshadow looks would be nice from someone whose original job was a MUA
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Apparently the youtuber Zabrena is getting a lot of heat for using the work "jipped/gypped" which is apparently a slur towards Gypsys/Romani people? (I didn't know that it was considered a slur either but okkkkk then)
But instead of learning from Laura Lee's drama she is doubling down and attacking anyone by going 2 years into their Twitter history to find things to call them out for.
Posts like this ARE NOT MILK. AT least sage your shit if you are going to insist on making these kinds of posts. >>702683
People flipping out about 'gypsy' being racist are annoying af
The name is mysteriously blacked out with ink, but you see star at the end. But the letter just before looks like a g. Some screenshots are in a way that hides some context that may be important. Even there we only can imply who is the gorilla, they were not talking about her here.
It’s also too easy to fake screenshots like this. Suspiciously he is saying he will make a video and has been filming it for a while so it doesn’t help. I do believe Jeffree has said some shit to this guy, they have been friends for a long time but this is attention seeking
Lmao anon getting "gypped" is in reference to the gypsies who live in underpasses and send their kids out to pickpocket real citizens. Nobody cares about the gyps/roma any more so society has generally forgotten that its a slur, but yes, this is exactly where it came from.
I hate gyps too but dont wave your ignorance around so much, it makes us all look like retards.
She's flipping out on a 2 year old post, way to act triggered
I discovered Tati like two years ago and for a while I really liked her. Mostly because she has so many videos and they're painfully boring, you can just put them on and zone out for hours. She's also consistent and made very thorough reviews before doing so was really a thing (like swatching all the colours of something instead of just a few).
Over the course of about a year she started to get more popular, do more collabs, and the drama started slowly creeping in. She went from being very low-drama to drama all the time. The magic beans were the last straw for me because I couldn't shake the feeling that she had tried to take advantage of the trust she had built doing (mostly) honest reviews for years. She took her fans for saps and assumed they would buy anything with her name on it… I guess she was right, though.
I thought i was the only one who watched Tati while doing something else just for the sound.
I never understud why everyone looked up to her, she was really sketchy with some reviews (specially with the Kardashian's related)
Like when the contour stick broke and she didnt even try to cut completly that part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ0HaBWk9Lk
(Hooktube doesnt work anymore)
I pretty much stop watching her when couldnt stop crying over not being invited to certain PR lists.
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>>702840>But the letter just before looks like a g
It's not legal documentation, he probably had a nickname in the phone. The last name isn't even capitalized so clearly he doesn't care.
>Even there we only can imply who is the gorilla
You would have to be actually stupid or not understand how the english language works to not understand who they're talking about>Hairguy posts pic of Jackie>Jeff unfollows Hairguy because he posts a pic of Jackie>Jeff says "are you done posting that gorilla">Hairguy says "I erased the pic of Jackie">Jeff follows again
Also if he was trying to convince us these fake texts were from Jeffree would he bother to say "gorilla", instead of straight up calling her the n-word? Wouldn't calling her the n-word be more "on brand" for Jeffree, since that's the slur he's publicly linked to?
If they're fake, why bother to show us the texts on the physical phone?
Why not just open photoshop and make fake screenshots? If he sat down and thought to himself "how do I make these fake texts look like they're from Jeffree Star?" wouldn't putting the sender's name as "Jeffree Star" be literally the first step? You think he went through all the trouble of coming up with a fake conversation to put in fake texts to then put in a real phone just to convince people and then just went "Ahh fuck, that was so much work I'm too tired to put his first name! 'sdjfhhskdjfhg star' should be enough to convince them.">>702068>Is…Jackie mtf though? Because all these texts are referring to a guy…kind of obviously…
Again, same thing here>Daved wants to unfollow Angel (the "he" in the convo)>Jeff says Do It (Unfollow Angel) >Since they're talking about unfollowing people on Insta, Jeff slips in a comment to remind Daved that he's not following him, because of the "gorilla" (Jackie)>Jeff then goes back to Angel ("he") again.>Daved responds to the comment about Angel, and then responds to Jeff's gorilla comment by saying "I erased Jackie's pic">Jeff follows back>>699581>Jackie accused a YouTuber of stealing her personal info, reported her video because she didn’t like it and has yet to make a full apology. J * is a petty asshole but don’t pretend that Jackie Aina is this saint or better than him
Oh ok good point anon, I guess since she's been shady before then she definitely deserves to be called a racial slur. After all, calling a black person a word that has a long-running history of being frequently used to insult the appearance of an entire race of people is the best way to convey that you aren't racist, you just dislike this one black person in particular! Just like how those random strangers who screamed "faggot" at Jeffree from far away in that video he cried over weren't homophobic, they were just critiquing Jeffree's work!
Honestly did yall pull a muscle with how far you had to stretch here? Is it worth making yourself sound that dumb just to stan Jeffree-senpai?
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But anyways, whatshisface posted a boring vid where he shows turning on his phone and going to messages and finding the Jeffree text. It also shows the name as "Jeffree fucking star" which explains >>702840
I've also never watched a Jackie vid in my life, so I don't care about her, but the Jeffree cronies got me heated. I can't believe people keep letting him get away with his this shit over and over again. Quit yelling fake news and just admit your senpai is a terrible person, but you're willing to overlook it because eyeshadow or something.
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I mean, Doe whatever isn't even running Lime Crime anymore and people are still yelling at them as recent as a couple days ago. Jeffree has been proven indisputably to be a racist and overall shitty person multiple times over, and STILL people pay for him to have orgies in his mansion with his 17 designer dogs and trophy boyfriend. And it's not like with LC where you could just see some eyeshadow at Riley Rose and impulse buy it not knowing anything about a former-CEO's history. Jeffree IS the brand. You have to go to HIS website to buy it, and you can't even get to where to buy the makeup without running into some of this drama along the way.
not trusting no one with some busted ass phone
if your phone isnt right your life aint right
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That's not even his current phone tho? That's his phone from like, years ago? He's said that multiple times since day 1? goddamn why are yall so brainwashed? it's not even the lazy route, you literally have to do so much more work to try and justify his actions
he can't even justify his actions properly>omg the people I screamed the n-word at in that one video were WHITE so it wasn't even racis! duh! YOU guys just misunderstood! anyways muh self harm
Tati never showed have made those stupid fucking pills. I'm not sure when I started watching her but it was a pretty short time ago compared to how long she's been around. Her videos were not too long, well shot and edited, and pretty inoffensive. Tati seems so overly sugary and fake but seems sincere about being super into makeup and loving it. Perfect to watch while folding laundry or something.
But then those stupid pills come out and she was insufferable. So smug that she wasn't just slapping her name on a lip gloss and was going to make this beauty empire that no one was asking for. She thought she was so much better than all the other influencers who have their own brand for thinking outside of the box. No one was interested in $40 beauty supplements and so many of her videos she shamelessly promoted it ('have to take my HALO before my morning skincare routine teehee') and then is just weeping and trying to guilt her fans for not supporting her dream while pretending it's a huge success.
I stopped watching but didn't unsub until she did some Giving My Son a Drag Makeover with James Charles. No fucking thanks.
I like Thomas and him exposing Jeffree is something I’ll always support, but fuck this forced wokeness and these asslicking comments make me wanna vomit
It just feels so weirdly condescending to me
I don't like Thomas either and he is definitely a fake woke, but I honestly wouldn't focus so much on Thomas when the main problem here is that J* is still a racist piece of shit. Multiple people are coming out to confirm that he is still a racist but that would not be enough to make him hold accountability (funny how everyone canceled Laura Leech for the same reasons they praise Jeffree). Everyone who is trying to excuse J and his recent racist remarks is also a racist piece of shit. Shane is also a racist piece of shit and his stans are far from normies.
What I find hypocritical is that Jeffree is trying so hard to be "all inclusive and an ally to POC" while calling POC gorillas and n*
a behind their back. Just admit you are a racist fuck and just want the poc money.
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>you think I would ever say that word around him?.
Oh so you admit that you still say the N word despite acting like an ally… but not around Thomas?
Funny how he was quick to respond to Thomas but dead silence on the whole "gorilla" thing.
He also LOVES to divert the attention to Manny or Laura Leech because he KNOWS his idiotic fans will focus on that instead.
People don't believe Jeffree because there are definitive proofs every where from multiple sources that he is still racist. What infuriates me that Jeffree acts like he's such an ally to POC, have their best interest on mind. When in reality he's just chasing after that POC coins and calling them names behindtheir back. He seemed to have fooled you all with his fake allyship that even local retailers in my 3rd world country carries his products.
But sure I also hate him for the other points you've listed (going after women with violent threats, his extreme misogyny towards cis women, dragging that one fan who received a broken highlighter through the mud and beyond because the fan didn't like the product, telling his costumersto kill themselves when they have complaints about his products) and he is racist too so I can hate him for multiple reasons not just one.
Ikr? It's crazy how triggered
she got that she couldn't even deal with a small youtuber claiming she's full of shit. Fuck off and grow a thicker skin. The girl was right in saying that had Tati just left it alone the girl would have just came off as a bitch and that would be that but now Tati seems weak, baited and in the wrong lane.
Not to defend Jeffree here but, context is important. For an example I have a lot of friends who are POC, inc people who are black, Asian, mixed raised etc etc. But, many of them make jokes around me enough about stuff in their culture like “oh god, I’m cold but I’m gonna shut up cos all I can hear is my Nigerian mum telling me I needed to take a coat” and I’ll sometime, when she complains I’ll often joke “I don’t wanna go all Nigerian mum here…”. Which, outside of context or if anyone over heard without knowing could be seen a racist comment.
If he meant “I’d never say that word around Thomas as he’s not my POC friends” in that, then fair play. I wouldn’t either. If he means he’s watching his mouth because of how “woke” Thomas likes to pretend to be, then it’s shady
i really don’t like salti.
she whined about not being on anastasia beverly hills’ pr list like bitch you make millions from testing free shit and have more than enough to buy whatever makeup you want. i hate it when influencers act like entitled brats like fuck, no one owes you shit and you have everything handed to you on a silver platter but waaaah a makeup brand doesn’t kiss your ass, oh the humanity.
she also pissed about jerrod blandino allegedly making her cry and therefore deciding to boycott too faced, which would be fine if it weren’t for the fact that the supposed incident happened waaaay back (at the sweet peach launch party) and she’d been promoting them happily after that but suddenly when jeffree star had his beef with too faced she suddenly pulled this out of her ass as an excuse to become buddy buddy with jeffree. /of course/ she conveniently refused to elaborate on what jerrod actually did that was oh so terrible and /of course/ her braindead subscribers followed boycotting and bashing too faced without knowing what or /if/ jerrod actually did something. yawn.
I can understand if she is upset about the PR, it is not because she doesn't want to pay for the products (I mean, look at her makeup room, the girl has a problem) It is because PR usually arrives earlier than the launch date of the products. Therefore, she can make and get her review up before anyone else. It is all about the business side really.
But yeah I agree with you about her boycotting Too Faced for her bestie Jeffree, that was so stupid.
Also, it was hypocritical of Jeffree because he got into an argument with the owner of Too Faced over the owner being angry that Tarte stealing Too Faced tradmarked unicorn design. Jeffree defended Tarte and shaded Too Faced over this, but dragged Huda Beauty and called "thief, liar, and a snake) because she had a similar campaign ad to the brand of Beauty Bakery.
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What the fuck is wrong with yall? Honestly I'm so fucking tired of Jeffree's brainwashed cronies. We've now had 7000 different examples of him being racist, and people still don't believe it which just enables Jeffree to keep playing the victim and claiming everything is "FAKE NEWS!!!" and nothing is ever his fault.
It'd be one thing if he was just some dumb rando being shitty and racist with no influence, but he's not. He lives in a giant fucking mansion with millions of dollars and millions of people subscribed to him. He's proven to be a racist piece of shit time and time again and hasn't faced any consequences. I hope it all comes crashing down around him and he ends up on the street, honestly.
If you like his makeup, fine, that's one thing. Just say you like his makeup and move on but you're seriously deluded if you try to justify supporting him with >but context!!!
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Also all she does now is shitty clickbait thumbnails. I can only assume this is because she doesn't seem to have her "real job" anymore and relies fully on those youtube dollars now.
Yeah but again, this isn't some rich cow like Elon or Trump where their wealth was achieved separate (at first at least) from their personality….Jeffree IS his brand. Literally the only reason he has that mansion and that money is BECAUSE of people ignoring this shit over and over and over again. If people stopped lining his pocket, what would he do? Try to restart his shitty failed music career?>well if we just ignore that he's racist again people will forget about him
That's not how it works? That isn't how it's worked the past 50 other times he's been proven racist, why would that work again? Honestly defending Jeffree should be bannable offense at this point. This is so fucking stupid I can't believe we're even having a discussion about it.
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Guys, I have to be honest with you. The Beauty community was awesome and shit (there was some little drama here and there, but nothing like this one)
But ever since Skeleton Star joined the community, it went down hill and they are still in the gutters. When I tried to search for his past and previous communities he was part in, so many problematic shit jumped out.
The one that sticks though is a comment I saw about his problematic behavior before, when he was in the music community:
>"[Jeffree saw] Dahvie Vanity bring underaged girls into their tour bus to take advantage of but he didnt say shit cause the situation benefitted him".
So I tried to search for receipts, and that tweet above is Jeffree calling out Dahvie after he already took advantage of him.
So tell me Jeffree, how is okay for YOU to social climb and then expose others for fame, but it is not OKAY for Thomas and Manny and whoever else to do the same shit you pulled in the past?
You included my reply in there about stereotyping but it had nothing to do with Jeffree, it was about Nigerian mothers as mentioned by the person I replied to. I think you misread it.
I 100% agree with you about him - and the excusemakers.
>>711813>Tati seems weak, baited and in the wrong lane
She needs to stick to what she does best and stay in her calm, endearing mid-aged woman review channel lane. She honestly comes across as crazy lately.>>712469>blandino allegedly making her cry
I really can't relate to adults that sincerely cry over dumb shit like that and then advertise it for asspats. Am I rly supposed to feel for her unhinged ass? >>713013
True things, anon. It's really strange to come to a thread and WK the cow, reminds me of retarded poltards that try to "redpill" people on other boards. Nobody is fucking buying it and it's cluttering the discussion.
On one hand cancel culture is retarded and pushes people to try and cover up past mistakes rather than admitting to them and learning to be better bc they're gonna be #cancelled either way. However, J* is not someone that will change, so no point in forgiving his snake ass. He'll just apologize for appearances and his handmaiden stans will eat it up.
Good that he called out the pedo, but only when Dahvie didn't benefit him anymore? Yeah he is a piece of garbage.
Ironically, his stans will shame everyone who tries to expose Jeffree by social climbing and clout chasing, when their Jesus Star did the same thing to Dahvie. Fucking hilarious
bitch even if that is an old phone how you gonna treat your belongings like that. idgaf and am not stanning anyone im just saying a bitch with a busted phone is a busted bitch.
you gotta tone it down on your persecution complex though lmao "weh they dont blindly believe me they must be whiteknight sheeple!!1"
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I tried to take a clear screenshot so y'all can see the fuck ups. Blue roots and blue patches, the bleach looks olive green and not frosty silver that they were going for.
I am not a hair expert, so I wonder how did it end up like this? What happened?
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It’s getting gud. Hope all these beautythots crash and burn so they’ll have to get real jobs.
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This is so wild to me I just truly do not understand why it is so difficult for these people to just not say the n-word?
Honestly, I don't even think Laura and whatshisface all those people should have been destroyed like they were, cause that was nothing compared to the shit Jeffree's said/done, but everyone still lets Jeff act like a martyr. I honestly can't believe we're letting this one go under the rug too >>691380
Nah fuck them, they all need to go.
They're the same vapid, butthole lipped, think they know something cause they have a following, better help sponsored typa cunts.
Im so exhausted with seeing youtube feeds filled with the same personalities, the same makeup and twitter talk all for what? I don't understand how an industry can be so fundementally shitty and Pointless. Plus its so horrifying seeing all these young women and girls who can't do makeup for their face but just follow a basic recipe made by instathots thats based on years worth of plastic surgery. I mean the moment a "beauty guru" has fillers any lipstick review is useless, their lips are not the same texture as your average persons especially the baboon lips everybody got. The return of men being listened to more than women because ofcourse all the femme fags had to bust out the gate and get a piece of the cake so now we have Jeffree who gets a free card to calling women cunts and bitches because hes ~gay~ and it just isnt the same!
Letting these youtuberd get a career out of doing their makeup was a mistake like when Vloggers started gaming channels.
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Shit has hit the fan for clout chasing Thomas halbert and I am screaminggggg at his attempt to apologize lmao! J* released audio and everything omg. Incoming caps from j stars twitter once I confirm they haven’t been posted already here
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Starting from Jeffrees response outing Thomas on Twitter after Thomas released his video. Please don’t ban me for samefagging, I’m just bringing caps for le milk
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The texts from previous post
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This tweet includes audio of Thomas he sent to Jeffree. To quickly summarize he’s apologizing to Jeffree and licking his ass after Jeffree catches him up. He then goes on to say how he was trying to gain info on manny to expose him lol and reveals his evil plans to Jeffree which makes him look like an idiot and shows his true colors. It’s still up to hear on jeffrees twitter. https://twitter.com/jeffreestar/status/1051599307177119746?s=21
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This tweet is regarding thomas’ shady past. Apparently he faked a giveaway and came at a black woman? I didn’t dig deeper into this one but here’s the cap
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Okay now, continuing from thomas’ response on twitter. He posted the above explanation/apology and continued with these.
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Hmmm, weird that Jeffree is going so hard on Thomas but stayed pretty quiet when Daved exposed his racist, Skeleton ass.
Fucking racists trying to use the pain of POC for their own agenda, fuck them all tbh
It’s not, j didn’t really post evidence of that but how can he? He denied it of course but that’s all and then came for Thomas for being the shady bitch he is. I don’t like j either, I hate them both in fact. J is a racist and there’s no denying that for me. But Thomas is also a piece of shit for many different reasons.
I wonder if this video j has on everyone will ever be released lol. Imagine the shit storm. Also annoyed as shit about hftt horse face ass always involved in some way playing faves.
He wasn't silent, he accused Laura Lee of hiring Daveed to make up fake stuff about him so that she could make a comeback or some bullshit like that. He's fucking insane.
Jeffree likes to act like he's a big self-made business man, but I'm honestly starting to just feel like he just blackmailed his way up the chain. Especially since in the Shane doc he mentioned how he's had sex with soooo many famous people. His career literally makes no sense otherwise. His music was shit and the amount of money he's made in that short of time (especially since he doesn't sell in Ulta/Sephora) doesn't make sense. He just has shit on everyone and uses it to deflect from his behavior over and over again. If his success was really just based on his myspace popularity alone, why aren't all the other "myspace musicians" or scenesters millionaires now?
Crazy how he has so much shit on everyone considering he's just over there living his life staying in his lane #cantrelate!!!!
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jeff and thomas both suck, but p convenient you forgot to post jeff's 826th "woe is me" with his same old tired refrain in that string of tweets
pretty soon he's going to try and claim copyright on martyrdom
Remember anon >"he has dirt on everyone".
I believe your idea of him blackmailing his way to the top, what a disgusting creature
take your "uwu the beauty community is so negative" to bgc. this isn't a board to discuss makeup and what videos you like.
Jeffree clearly enjoys making videos. Sam is the one who "sucks the fun out of everything". She's bored and bitches in every video. She's an influencer who hates her job but is too lazy and spoiled to leave it. She openly states she only does the gig for the money and finds it unfulfilling. All of this for what? Some more Aritzia clothes and west elm furniture? sad…
>>714032>who do you hate and who do you like?.
Bitch did you not read the OP post before blindly sperging?
I swear you Jeffreaks are more retarded than your Jesus Star.
Everybody is in for the money. Sam is honest and Jeffrey isn't.
And stop crawling into Jeffreys slimey anus, you seriously need some education. You stans see in everybody unapologetic flaws like being annoying, honest, loud or whatever but Jeffrey is untouchable because he ~ApoloGized being racist kek
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I know he’s technically a hair youtuber but hair counts as beauty so I think this is okay to post. Does anyone else fucking loathe guy tang? He’s unbearable to watch. His mannerisms, voice, facial expressions etc drive me nuts. He’s such a weirdo and I can see how u comfortable his clients are when he’s saying weird shit and giggling like a retard. His work is great though so I feel like everyone sucks his ass to get their hurr did. Also he’s making music now, lmfao. I don’t know why every beauty youtuber (Patrick Star cough cough) is trying to break into the music industry with terrible, stereotypical gay club/drag music.
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I regret googling to confirm >>714862
I was just watching a video he did with Glam&gore
Him repeating the word "pubes" to describe her hair got really uncomfortable real quick…
I know she started it but she only did to break the ice and didn't hang up on it like he did.
nobody knows their gender, but just going off the name alone, i assume they're mtf as well. pretty talented kid that more or less keeps to themselves and isn't problematic
well his name is still Antonio, a male name. I think he's just a super fem male, not everyone who goes against the gender norm is trans. Like Johnathon from Queer Eye.
I went to go check his social blade, because I am rooting for him. But he lost 37K subs today? What happened? James Charles isn't considered that problematic
anymore and he's very popular. Their videos don't have a lot of hate comments. Did Youtube do a big purge of spam accounts?
>>714098>defending drama channels
Whether or not you like JS, Sam IS fucking annoying and bitches in every video. And this is coming from someone who doesn't stan JS, and used to really like Sam's videos. She's extremely biased, and thinks that youtubers owe her an explanation for her videos. Then gets upset when youtubers block her for being another stupid drama channel and don't want to get involved with her. >>713712>>713706
I unsubbed a while ago. He's another channel that every few months, he has to make a drama video or a big collab to stay relevant, because his makeup skills aren't that great and his personality isn't that great either. His videos are boring.
Like this tweet, he loves to start shit, and then can't handle any sort of backlash and people challenging him. So he tweets things like this. Just from following him since he had around 10K, it's pretty obvious that he blew this all out of proportion.
JS probably did say some racist shit in front of him, but Thomas didn't give a fuck until JS decided not to work with him. If he was so bothered by what JS said, then why was he using all of his makeup in a collab with Tati? Why didn't he say things right after they happened, BEFORE Shane's series began that changed tons of people's opinions of JS?
Because he only gets 1-5K subs a day and needs bigger amount of subs right now for more growth.
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Honestly I didn't hate the parts in the beginning with the other youtubers, I thought the aesthetic with the lights and stuff was nice.
But then it's like…this video had 4 different directors or something. Or like, 1 director had a nice idea cohesive idea and Guy was like "yeah but how do I shove MY ABS in every other scene". Woof. This video is a mess.>>714845
(For what it's worth I think hair youtubers totally count under the umbrella of Beauty Gurus)
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Sry for double post but this made me laugh out loud
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I dunno why he thinks it's a cute/quirky thing to screech like this all the time. He kept trying to make "paranormal hairtivity" a thing. iirc he did the same thing with grav3yardgirl
Not shade on him but remember when he worked with Gabbie Hanna and she said "do whatever you want to my hair I don't care!!" and then he talked her through everything and made it look really nice and purpley and she was like "omg perfect I absolutely love it!" and then the next day she threw a hissy fit about how much she hated her hair cuz MUH ANXIETY!! Not Guy's fault she's crazy at all, but that was wild. sage for ot
As much as I don't like Guy Tang, Gabbie was kind of a bitch for that move
Heck, even her fans turned against her in her hissy fit video lmao
I know that Sam is annoying af and she shouldn't behave like that but she isn't racist.
You all act like being annoying is as bad as being racist.
You don't need to like Sam or anyone else. That's ok. But can we please stop down playing racist behaviour? Like "b..but she is annoyinggg!!! I hate herrrr!!! Jeffrey isn't that bad, I don't care if you don't like him!!!"
Where is your common sense people? Seriously!
And PS I love calling enablers and stans slimey stinky anal worms <3
Jeffree is racist hunny deal with it, I don't want to hear from his stans how he "isn't racist, he apologized!!!, gorilla is not even a racially charged insult!!! Why do you all hate and bully POOR Jeffree waaa waa"
Sage your shit
okay honey, post the receipts cus its literally just you sperging like a conspiracy theorist
lit the only solid shit was over 10 years ago and are you really gonna be /that bitch/ and hold onto it like gospel?
Guess what happened just recently. Right, Jeffrey called Jacky Aina a gorilla. 2018. This happened not 10 years ago. Jeffrey WAS a racist and IS STILL a racist.
Here are the receipts honeyyy. Sorry it's not Fox News which you clearly prefer:https://www.teenvogue.com/story/jeffree-star-racist-jackie-aina
Something is fishy. White knights are getting called out in every thread on lolcow. But here in this particular thread you can't say anything against Jeffrey. His racist behaviour is proven but someone is white knighting him with passion. I can't think of anyone to defend Jeffrey but Jeffrey himself. Seriously I think some of these posts are from Jeffrey himself.
>okay honey, post the receipts cus its literally just you sperging like a conspiracy theorist
>lit the only solid shit was over 10 years ago and are you really gonna be /that bitch/ and hold onto it like gospel?
Who is even talking like that? That comes straight out of Jeffreys mouth. Plus I can imagine that Jeffrey is the kind of guy who engages in gossip sites like lolcow, kiwi farms, gurugossiper
I'm getting sick and tired of Jfree and his psycho stans fucking up this thread>>717224
wow a LAW student and does this shit??? the guts…
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soooo, Alissa asked for inspiration and ideas for a Halloween look. A fan/mua responded to her with a pictures of her own look and look what she responded with
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original tweet by Alissa
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Alissa doubling down
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the girl apologizing
samefag but what do you all think? Alissa was so fucking rude to the girl for no reason. Alissa herself couldn't become famous without posting her face on every platform (promotion) but gives this girl shit for doing the same?
and even if the girl was promoting herself (which I see nothing wrong with, since Alissa ASKED for ideas) she could have just ignored her?
Alissa has always been rude to her fan base and shitting on them whenever she can, I literally cannot see why people LOVE her when she has a disgusting attitude like this? like seriously, would it have hurt her to be nice and professional for a second?
Idk there’s a shit ton of posts complaining about Jeffree “stans”, but the posts people are referencing aren’t even stanning they’re just not being rabid and hateful towards Jeffree so therefore they MUST be a stan.
I think some of you need to realize at this point if someone chooses to not hate Jeffree than they are never going to change their mind ever.
I’ve followed him (NOT a stan so calm your tits) since MySpace and also Stickam days (an old streaming site) and there used to be a site called “Stickydrama” that would post about people on Stickam…. many people speculated that Jeffree perused the site and he knew a lot about other people’s drama whenever he did go on webcam. I don’t see it being unlikely that Jeffree visits “drama sites” today and would post, but I honestly don’t think any of the mentioned posts were him.
If he is visiting lc it’d be more to collect dirt on others and this thread has nothing exclusive in ANY way so he would’ve left a long time ago when noticing that.
Unfortunately most of stickydrama was never archived - the people who hate Jeffree would have a field day with the shit he used to do and say on Stickam lol - Jeffree lives off of shocking people back in those days. I’ve tried looking through archives before but maybe someone else would have better luck…
Then your insecure bitch idol Alissa shouldn't have ASKED her fans for MAKEUP LOOKS AND IDEAS
I'm so fucking tired of these lame ass gurus acting all high and mighty for javing basic makeup skills
Yeah I agree, but after witnessing her lash out on her fans for years, I thought she might finally get called out on it you know? Well, seems like everyone is still sucking her ass so I shouldn't post on this thread anymore.
Some people here are getting triggered
whenever I post something milky/sketchy/rude their favorite guru did lol.
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The stickydrama site still exists, there's lots
of pages with text. Many of pics are missing but the ones that remain are pretty entertaining.http://stickydrama.com/jeffree-star/
God I miss Hanna Beth
Speaking of which, where’s Audrey Kitching now? Isnt she a MUA?
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Audz lost it a few years ago, is now selling crystals and candles online and her tweets sound like they came straight from a new-age bullshit generator. http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/
Stickydrama is a goldmine for referencing all of the horrible shit that today's successful former scene kids have done. It's just a great read in general. It's a shame that all of the videos (and most of the images) are lost to time.>>717637>>717638
New Age is the swan song of comfortable adult women who've realized that they're getting too old to keep up with the current alt youth trends but spent so much time in alt youth culture that they failed to cultivate an actual multi-dimensional identity that isn't completely based on a trend.
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Ah I remember this chick. I unsubbed when she started making videos about her pregnancy. I can't stand people who get knocked up from very recent relationships and act like they're this beacon of mother hood and miracles and completely loose any ounce of personality they had before they got knocked up.
She seemed really annoying and entitled at the end and I didn't think I was going to be subbed much longer anyway.>sage because I just got into this thread and this is an older post.
Speaking of comfortable, how the hell does Audrey make money??
She lives in Hollywood, doesn't she? She does 'modeling' jobs, but other than that and her bullshit crystal online shop, how does she afford it all?
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said, but also the problem isn't this at all you idiot. People aren't saying >yeah Jeffree's done some shitty stuff, but I don't care I still like his makeup>I only care about makeup, I don't care about drama>Even though he's problematic I still like his music/makeup
This isn't a Jeffree stan, this is someone who just likes makeup. Whatever, that's fine, no one would give a shit.
What people ARE saying is>YEAH WELL the person who has proof that Jeffree is racist said THIS mean thing on twitter 3 years ago so therefore their proof is invalid
or>This proof is obviously fake because [insert reason that makes zero sense]
or (like your dumbass in this case)>it doesn't matter if we've been show 487 instances of him being a bigot and overall terrible person, nothing's going to change so we might as well never ever talk about it again and instead sweep it under the rug again. Because talking about his racist behavior is only going to bring him more positive attention somehow!
or>But context matters when you're calling a black woman a Gorilla!>But context matters when there's video proof of you screaming the n-word with a hard r at someone!
THIS is a Jeffree stan. This is someone who doesn't care about the makeup, and is only defending Jeffree himself. So yeah, the people on here who slither out of Jeffree's asshole to whiteknight him any time someone mentions the CONSTANT barrage of shit he starts, they are stans.
It's even worse that you're not a stan, because basically you're saying that someone who's been shown time and time again to be a horrible racist manipulator and blackmailer is a person you're STILL standing by because…..you kinda liked him on Myspace 10 years ago? You're not even a makeup fan or obsessed enough with him to turn a blind eye? That's all it takes for you to disregard human decency? Clearly some anon calling someone else a "stan" is more offensive to you than Jeffree calling multiple people racial slurs, since that's the one you're throwing a fit about. Get some morals my dude.
wasnt she and all of those little scene queen starfuckers from rich families?
thats how they could afford all the shit back in the day too im sure
This is the part that pisses me off about this huge blow out with all the beauty youtubers. None of them actually give a shit about racism. If they did all of this shit would have came out years ago, and no one would be constantly covering up for each other. They're just using it for leverage to try to one up each other.
Fans, too. You think they give a shit about racism? Nah. They just want to gotcha the beauty guru's they don't like, or defend the ones they do by finding racist shit on other people's twitter.
NONE of these people give an actual shit about racism.
OMG just found out about this today and was gonna post.
Whats really scummy was her reaction and damage control over the backlash she got for her zoella review and tried to play the victim, and yet shes trying to do the same thing RIGHT NOW. Fucking lol-this video is tha latest from the channel covering it.
Lit every thread on lolcow>someone doesn't agree with me?!?>they MUST BE (insert cow)
Grow the fuck up you're embarrassing
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Not only that but this is her recent video-notice whats shes done?
Her instagram comments is now full of people asking when she is going to address the calendar issue and she is just ignoring them.
She should actually be worried because apparently whats shes done is illegal and there is talk of bring action against her given there is enough evidence out there to take to court. Also her disgusting boyfriend is sending death threats to more people, this bitch is a mess.
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I've now seen quite a few saying they will take legal action, I wonder if she will finally address this or will ignore in hopes it will go away.
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Omg I hope they actually take action and it is not just empty threats. It is so funny because she obtained a law degree according to this interview 3 years ago: https://www.google.de/amp/s/henleybschool.blog/2018/02/21/sam-meets-eltoria/amp/
She disabled all comments kek. She swears that she had permission from companies and actually worked together with them on the advent calender. Sure Jen.
Is it even legal insisting to have a contract although she is obviously lying? I mean if she says she has permission that means she must have the receipts/a contract. I could also say I work with Loreal and sell stuff in the name of them. That's highly illegal.
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One of the videos exposing her was made by someone who deals with this type of law-they were giving tips for those who want to take action in the video and encourage others who had bought the calendar to contact them if they need further assistance. I will see if I can find-but interestingly they said if you paid via paypal you can get the money back and there were at least 4 comments I saw saying they are contacting paypal right now to get a refund.>>718745
Exactly.>She swears that she had permission from companies and actually worked together with them on the advent calender.
Now this is the most stupid thing she said because this is exactly what she will get sued on-not just selling their products illegally but I doubt the companies are going to want to be connected with a person who has a reputation for scamming her fanbase and whos boyfriend threatens them with violence.
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Nta but read >>717899
because that's literally why? I'd honestly love to hear a defense of him that actually holds water that isn't just "fake news" or "but myspace", so nows your chance my dudes. No one here who is defending Jeffree has ever mentioned his makeup or given any reason as to why they're a fan other than just attacking his accusers. So let's hear it, why do you like Jeffree? Why is he worth defending to you? I'm legitimately curious.
holy shiiiiit. Brad Mondo loves to talk about knowing hair this and that, but he destroyed her hair. And that cut is also bad.
She can pull if off (good for her) but both the cut and color are massively patchy and uneven. He's a terrible 'hair dresser.'
>>718909>Being mildly racist really isn't a huge deal in tons of places, sorry, but it's true
First of all, what about screaming "N—ER" at the top of his lungs and calling black women gorillas and rats is "mild"? And that's just the things we've seen. You don't just wake up one day at JS's age and say "I think I'm gonna say the n word for the first time today!", obviously he must be using it in his personal life as well.
Also>I'm shitty and all of my friends are shitty so therefore you guys are the incorrect ones
So you're in an racist echo chamber? Cool. Sorry to inform you but being racist is in fact a big deal. And if it's not a big deal to you or your friends, then you need new friends.
Seriously like >>718888
said if you're that offended by being called a Jeffree goon than literally give me one reason other than "I think racism is ok" why you support Jeffree.
Also this is a makeup
thread? Why the fuck do we constantly have to debate why it's bad to be racist?
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Should he have used olaplex or is that just a meme?
Also YouTube always recommends me his videos which are complete trash 5% content 95% gay/ black people slang.
I think anon is just saying being racist isn't milk, but that's not what the complaint about Jeffree is. He is manipulative. I know he has a business and all, but he should own up to his shit. He can't just apologize for saying racial slurs, then turn around and call Jackie Aina a gorilla. I'm not surprised he's still a racist fag, seeing as Chris Crocker was his BFF. There used to be a video of both of them together saying racial slurs, it was kinda like a compilation. It seems it's been wiped from Youtube.>>719085>Youtube's terrible recommendations
Blah, I really wish they have competition. Youtube used to be a lot more personal, now it's crazy fame hungry people there. Also, I keep getting reaction videos recommended to me, alongside drag queen makeup tutorials lmao.
I have more of an issue with his hypocrisy than his ~mild racism~
You don't get to drag makeup companies for not having a wide range of makeup shades so that you appear woke but also call black makeup influencers gorillas.
Indeed, I noticed that youtuber had at least 3 of their videos pulled-however a lot of other youtubers are covering this.
I would love to see her pull this on petty paige, she will get her ass handed to her by petty's fans but moreso petty, it will tank any future career for sure.
There are a lot of people like Valentina and Laura Lee selling their PR too
>It's not against the law , per se. But you do have to sign contracts, saying specifically you agree to not sell the items and that if you do sell them, they are liable to press a civil suit against you. So it's not a law, it's a legal contract. Same concept, different idea.
So Eltoria could get sued. But most likely she would get blacklisted by some brands, because I don't know any youtuber getting sued by selling PR but many youtubers who got blacklisted.
>So, here's the 'technical' stuff about income on such PR stuff. A company that gives her over $600 retail value of product, will give her a 1099 form which she is supposed to file with her income tax as income. She has to claim anything over $600 and that, again, 'technically' is to be for ALL her PR freebies for the year. So, if she has 7 PR companies give her $300 in product each, she is suppose to claim $2100 income and pay taxes on that.>If she has any products that she sells, and makes over $600 in a year, she is supposed to claim that as income too. And, there will be income tax assessed on that.>Again, technically, she is screwing herself for being a scammer. She probably isn't claiming any of that PR as income. And, she isn't claiming any of what she makes by reselling it on her income tax. That's a WHOLE lot of fraud!!!
I believe that's US law. Idk how things are in the UK but I believe it's fairly similar. You have to declare your free stuff and pay taxes as you have to pay taxes on your profit. Eltoria said in her video that she made no profit and she bought the stuff from her own pocket kek that's tax fraud!
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Yep, some of the issues are covered in pic related.
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kinda love this
Underrated comment. hahaha
Mykie looks bad here. Like the other anons mentioned, her self tanner did her no favors.
I think his work is fantastic, but i cannot stand his personality. He is really over the top and uses the whole 'i'm gay ' thing to the extreme. I will admit he's talented, but my god, he is freakin annoying as hell.>>714864
ewww, his dick is disgusting. Literal pencil dick
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Her latest instagram post. She sees herself as the victim, doesn't she?
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From eltoria's new video, she really is being a passive agressive bitch and people are laughing. I'm sure she wont be laughing when trading standards come knocking.
She really is being stubbon and making it worse for herself.
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I thought Jeffree said that he doesn't care about Manny and blocked him? and that he doesn't even think about Manny at all?
if he could stay self aware for 2 seconds he would be so much more likeable. he's one of those people who says some provocative shit, and then when people get provoked, goes "omg why are people coming for me!! must be because i'm just over here living my best life." he's always been a little trickster which can be fun and funny but it gets ruined when his fat ego compels him to say shit like "oh people just try to ruin my reputation because i'm so successful!" even when he himself has apologized for things and admitted to starting drama.
like i don't care about manny mua and the drag was kind of funny but you can't do shit like that and then act all shocked and victimized when a lot of people bitch about you
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Apparently Jeffree not only is friends with all the drama channels, he found his comment SO interesting that he just has to send it to Rich Lux asap (I’m rolling my eyes so hard)
Most people know Jeffree loves creating narratives, but usually he isn’t this sloppy. A simple crop would’ve helped.
because he never actually worked on his attention and conflict seeking issues, but instead just said "oh i've moved on from that! i killed that part of myself! i'm a professional now!" but that's not really how it works so his repressed lust for drama finds its way out for the most retarded of reasons.
he was just starting to gain more favor from the public. how long until he's hated again? he needs to make up his fucking mind and stick with it. maybe instead of trying to kill and bury angry jeffree he needs to accept that that's a part of himself and MANAGE it.
i mean maybe i'm giving him too much credit and he never intended to stop being petty and callous, but to me he really seems like he doesn't even know if it's more worth it to be petty or if he's above all that now.
samefag but alternative theory:
jeffree made a trade with rich. jeffree acts as rich's personal tea kettle, whipping up spicy comments for him to make giant monetized videos about when the regular tea is dry, and in return, maybe, say, jeffree gets to preapprove any rich lux videos about real drama concerning himself.
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Well, we already know that Jeffree reached out to Rich to meet up with him a long time ago when he was in TX (and they also did the grav3yardgirl video together, though I'm not sure if that was the same time) so obviously it was a ploy on Jeffree's part to get Rich on his side since his videos are all about beauty drama. This has shown to be the case in Rich's videos since then, where he doesn't have a bad thing to say about JS. It just validates his victim complex even more if the people providing all the info on drama are playing him to be the victim as well. Rich also said in the video where he talks about meeting Jeffree that he asked JS for youtube advice and they talked about how to further his yt popularity. Appearing in a video with JS would obviously do that, so there's a clear exchange here. Jeffree fucking sucks but he's very business/PR smart. He knows EXACTLY which people to play and how.
Case and point: See the posts about when HereForTheTea made a totally valid video criticizing JS and everyone jumped down her throat about it being a vendetta and her being a jealous fatty. Even the anon who posted it here hadn't watched it but claimed it was a vendetta. (and then deleted the comment where they said that lmao)>>698619>>698620>>698651>>721786
What fake shit tho? This is what I'm talking about with the Jeffree stanning. People post very clear irrefutable proof and suddenly people come out of nowhere to either attack the character of the person who posts it, or go way out of their way to question it with no proof as to why it may be fake other then "idk looks fake". It's the exact same shit as the Daveed video.
>HereForTheTea makes tons of JS videos with evidence of his shadiness
JS Stans: she's just jealous cause she's ugly and couldn't become a guru!! Let's start talking shit about HER instead!!>Daveed posts texts directly from his phone. Shows him turning on his phone, going to the texts and opening them, proving they could not possibly be faked.
JS Stans: idk seems fake
JS: Laura Lee HIRED Daveed to make up fake texts to that she could make a comeback!!>Screenshot of Jeffre's comment with Jeffree's icon that says "Add a comment as jeffreestar…"
JS Stans: idk seems fake>Video of Jeffree screaming the N-word at the top of his lungs
JS Stans: but context!!! that's barely even racist!!
Literally give me one example of the "fake shit" you're talking about that has been proven to be fake outside of Jeffree claiming it's fake because everyone's jealous of him. The character of people doesn't make the claims any less valid, it just makes it easier for Jeffree to manipulate the narrative in his favor by distracting everyone.
Seriously mods, can we get this shit out of here? Valid opinions/commentary on JS is fine, but this shit is just clogging up the thread over and over and over again.
Okay, not a Jeffree stan but technically those texts could easily be faked. Texts are just data stored on a phone, you're viewing a local copy when you scroll. With a rooted phone you can change anything about them (time and date stamps, who sent them, the content etc). If it was WhatsApp or something else it would be much harder, but with texts and iMessage it's super easy.
I think that it's unlikely they are faked because Daveed doesn't seem that bright, but to say categorically they cannot be fake just because he showed his phone screen is wrong.
Ok, fair, I think this is an informed opinion. I'm literally begging yall to back up your baseless defenses of Jeffree with even one thing, and congrats you're the first person who's actually done that. And it's not even in defense of Jeffree.>>722057
What about this needs to be saged? I'm taking about a beauty guru drama in a beauty guru thread, regarding topical info. Or is it just because it's about precious victim Jeffree?
Yeah, this is the confusing point to me as well. If he just wanted to make up fake texts it wouldn't it have been less work to just photoshop some? Especially considering he didn't end up getting anything out of it (though obviously that was his intent) his video where he shows himself turning on the phone and going to the messages only got <30K views and all the comments are Jeffree stans attacking him. I don't understand how rooting/jailbreaking works really, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on this video then.
(Start around 6:00 for the actual phone, he blathers on forever before that)
Either way Jeffree did his usual magic of flipping the narrative and sweeping it under the rug by blaming Laura Lee/declaring them fake/starting new shit for people to concentrate on/playing the victim instead. Most of the conversation turned into:>a hairdresser and their client is a SACRED BOND how dare you violate that!!>this man used to PAY you to do a JOB and you betrayed him!!
…..because both of those things are worse than racism, I guess? It even fits in with the >>721806
Rich Lux narrative, because Rich's video on this was all about how Daved violated this "client/hairdresser confidentiality" and was butthurt because Jeffree was using another hairdresser. (I agree with the latter point, but again, doesn't make his claims any less true)
If these texts were fake then Daved had to be super genius to match the dates of the texts with the Instagram posts they were talking about in the texts (see >>696095
While also making Jackie Aina post his work at those dates, making this whole scheme in the duration of months…
Yeah that ain't it, these texts are real
it is Jeffree though and cannot be anyone else, the Jackie photo Daved posted was right after Jeffree's photos of a magazine shoot he did. No one (at that time) had a beef with Jackie except Jeffree, that's why he told his hairstylist to "delete that gorilla" and how was disgusted to have Jackie's photo right next to his. He even unfollowed Daved UNTIL Daved deleted Jackie's photo (which can be still found on her Instagram)
unless you mean another person staging this, then that's too elaborate to do during the entirety of 2017. Daved ain't that smart nither is Laura Leech (because she was accused of doing it lol)
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I know you're saying you think they're real, but yeah even so the mental gymnastics required to make this even a plausible situation is absurd. It's Trump levels of "FAKE NEWS! Idk you figure out how that's all I've got bye" or a giant conspiracy involving at least a year of pre-planning and multiple conspirators and breaking a phone and concocting a made up conversation to surround the racist remark that has to align with Jeffree's real public feuds and real events and confirming it with instagram dates to have ready to go JUST IN CASE Jeffree starts working with another hairdresser or Laura Lee annihilated her career? And for what? It just gets swept under the rug and Daved's reputation is probably ruined.
The Occam's Razor version is "guy who we know has been racist before is still racist".
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She sure does. soon-to-be-wilson commented on her now infamous video that eltoria and her rabid white knights posted some nasty comments on the video which then disappeared. These ones have resurfaced, not sure if these are the ones she meant but as you can see eltoria is yet AGAIN trying to spin the victim "woe is me, you're all bullying me i'm all about positivity etc" bullshit. Linking the video in case you wanna view the replies to eltoria down below there are many!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUMMKT8IaGs&t=2s
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I'm surprised Mykie hasn't popped up here before, is she that ~beloved~? She was definitely unique back in the day but I find her a bit obnoxious now. She seems like the type of youtuber that professional FX MUAs would hate. Has she ever worked professionally in that capacity? I know she did some haunted house/halloween type stuff, but those places will usually take any random theater kid who's taken a stage makeup class. Has she ever actually worked in Film/TV doing FX makeup?
>>723220>is she that ~beloved~?
She doesn't get involved in drama and she seems nice and down to earth, so I don't know why could she be considered lolcow
I never liked her but there hasnt been anything to talk about(milk) and im not one to sit around nit picking another snowflakey guru with cringe friends. Shes boring at best, acts like a myspace scene queen in terms of lel so randum xD act while also trying to come off as some big internet mom, her normal makeup tutorials are like any other (boring) and the sfx is….just dissapointing, bland and another average guru who gets their ass ate for pinterest tier tutorials, what really riles me is she had a video(it was a small part of some q&a or something) where she mentioned youtubers who dont practice safety etc for sfx tutorials and it harms viewers but really? The woman putting some latex and cotton on her face wants to suddenly talk about being certified and safety while she never outs the yt'ers shes complaining about, which comes across like such virtue signaling when all she can do is vague post about ~muh safety, am licensed professional uwu, they r doint bad thingz~
Beauty gurus all act the same tbh, she just seems like the dumblr version of the community. Plus considering she has no qualms with people like Jeffrey or that greasy white guy with the long hair who can't but chooses to rap i can't say she has any good judgement of character
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and then she went to Twitter this year to say "fuck you Walmart" because they "stole" her idea.
I think she has a LOT of drama lurking but she's smart enough to cover it up.
-Probably cheated on her bf with the guy with half red, half black hair. The videos were SO cringey and so much sexual tension. It seemed very weird
-Currently dating spankie on the sly. If you watch the very end of the spankie video where she covers mykie's apartment with pictures of herself, it really looked like a couple.
At the same time she uploads videos like "Gets Tinder guys to choose my makeup"
-The "pregnant???" Clickbait thumbnail for her Q&A, where she had an obviously made up and lengthy boring story about mistaking a fan for being pregnant, just so she could use that thumbnail. The fan of course never shows up in the comments.
Her videos used to be good, but she just posts trash now and blames the algorithm. See also hawking $30 wigs at $99. She's like a slightly higher class version of the rest of the Youtube crowd. I feel like she sold out recently.
Also she has a Tesla car and Alexa and whatever other tech junk is popular, which just says to me she cares too much about popularity/what people think of her.
this post is 100% tinfoil and reaching. please polish your crystal ball a little, anon.
tbh mykie is so annoying, she has no outstanding quality. also she looks like she worked in the mud all the time due to her dirty looking fake than.
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I do like that she's not afraid to be….ugly I guess is the word? Like basically shaving off her eyebrows (or letting them be that light) and shit. I think she's very pretty and she's legit the only person I've ever liked a side shave on. But yeah the whole "so randum! xD" with the edited high pitched voice is pretty annoying. I felt legit bad for that tinder guy when she had him wipe off her makeup, must have been pretty startling for him.
I enjoy watching JS because I find him entertaining, but I will never understand the denial his fans are in about how overflowing with shadiness he is.>>722138
That video wasn't nearly as milky as I was hoping and tbh he kind of hurt his own career by making it. Celebrity clients don't give a fuck whether or not your exposure of someone was justified, they just care that you exposed a client. This is a massive turn off for the kind of people he works for. The fact there was an attention whore element to it doesn't help his case at all.>>723343
Seconding the anon who called tinfoil and reaching. Let's not get carried away.>>723420
I think she's quite pretty, it's just her lack of eyebrows doesn't do her any favors.
seriously. she has a terrifying grin.
she's not ugly without makeup and most dudes who aren't virginal robots are well aware and don't give a shit that women look different without makeup. I doubt tinder guy was really all that shocked to wipe off her makeup and discover -surprise!!! - she's still an attractive girl, she just doesn't naturally have giant lashes.
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Are you sure though? If you try to find Mykie's credits what comes up is 2 IMDB pages under "Mykie" and "Mykie Valenzuela". They both look like her, but Valenzuela isn't her last name so idk what that's about.
I know her real name is Lauren Mychal Mountain, but she's said "Mykie" is her working name. Even if you try to find an IMDB under LMM the only thing that comes up doesn't look like it could be hers at all.
(Sry for giant pic)
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(Continued) This looks like her resume from laurenmountain.tumblr.com, I'm sure it hasn't been updated in forever but even then it just looks like the haunted house place and some internships?
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I mean, I don't really have a problem or dislike Mykie, and obviously there's nothing wrong with being self-taught. But I just think it's kind of misleading for her to portray herself as a "professional" SFX MUA, or to criticize other FX channels for "not being professional or trained enough in safety like she has".
>You don't run in circles like that unless you've worked in the industry
Full disclosure, I just skimmed that video but I don't understand this line of thinking? If she really met Vi Neal just through working in the industry, why would a 3x Oscar-winning film makeup designer take the time to sit down with one of thousands of random set makeup artists? (because that's all Mykie would be at this point). Seems like Vi Neal was trying to promo her makeup classes in that video, which would make more sense why she would appear on Mykie's channel since Mykie is a yt celebrity and more or less the face of FX makeup on youtube.
I would guess they were both just involved in the Nyx face awards and met that way (pic related).
These are two completely different styles of mouth makeup though. And a year apart is long enough, isn't it? >>723278
Getting mad at Walmart is pretty cringey though.
She's less obnoxious than other gurus, but she's definitely misleading and up her own ass. There's also this video where she tells people how to get into the industry and how to be a makeup artist like her….and it's just bad? Other than working at the Mac store and the haunted prison or whatever and a few small productions she never mentions any other "industry" experience and just spends the whole video giving really obvious and self-serving advice. I don't understand why she thinks she can give people advice on how to break into the makeup artist industry….when she really has no experience in it at all?
Her hot tips:>guys take pictures of your makeup!!>you need to have pictures in a portfolio!>just don't give up!>be a fast learner like me!>lie on your resume like me!>work on as many different people and faces as possible!!
(even though basically all of her videos are just on her own face)>"It takes a lot of commitment to get to where it does pay pretty well"
(she's literally never reached that point though? she's rich because she's a youtuber, not because she ever made money as a makeup artist)
She acts like getting a job selling makeup at a mall in Pennsylvania is some big crazy break she got because even though she didn't have experience they could just TELL she was gonna be great. Same goes with the Haunted Prison or whatever. As someone who works in hair/makeup in the Theatre industry I can assure you both of those jobs will basically take any highschool theatre kid as long as they can train them.
Her timeline also confuses me. She says she worked as a cocktail waitress for a couple of years to save money to move to LA. She moves to LA to be a makeup artist…with no portfolio (hence the advice "take pictures!"
) and then didn't start a youtube channel until she had been living in LA and starting doing makeup on herself to build up a portfolio (presumably because she couldn't get work). There's no mention of her ever doing any more production work after she starts talking about how she got a youtube following.
But I swear I remember her talking about how she was a cocktail waitress in some of her vids years ago when she was already doing popular tutorials? I could be wrong though. Doesn't matter either way cause how the hell do you have a degree in Film, and think you can just make it in the industry with no portfolio or real experience? Especially with years in between to prepare and build up a portfolio? She absolutely just lucked into her success.
Anyways TL;DR Mykie loves to give advice on how to be successful in the makeup industry, even though she makes money from youtube and has never been successful in the makeup industry just on it's own.
I have no qualms about being self-taught or being a beautuber, but just admit that's how you make money and that's all you are? Don't act like you're better and smarter or different than every other self-taught beautuber/FX hobbyist just because you worked on a couple of no-name productions you were barely even paid for.
I think everything you wrote is correct, and she does it intentionally to make herself seem more professional or qualified than other youtubers. But it's all for nowt when she just makes trash clickbait content now. She is very good at makeup but the initial thing I liked about her - that she was somewhat clever and creative - seems lacking now. Her old videos were big productions with twists. Now it's just mykie in a room
. It's disappointing because she can do more. I noticed she updates instagram a lot less now too, and what she posts is not linear, and almost random. There used to be a narrative of some sort.
Funny note which I realised a month or so ago: She is wearing colored contacts 80% of the time, but never mentions it. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes not. Generally it's only mentioned by fans in the comments if it's a sclera lens. I don't know if that counts as false advertising, because lenses play a huge role in how a makeup look turns out and she's never once mentioned it. Idk. I wish she would put some effort into her videos, in summary, like she did in 2014-2016.
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I wish she’d go back into sfx makeup, her old videos were a little bit better then they were now bit even then I don’t think she was that great of a sfx artist
But lately I’d barely consider her one, her looks are soooo basic
Using a wee bit of latex and a shit ton of makeup doesn’t make you a self taught artist anymore
I consider a good sfx self taught artist to be ellimacs
At least she makes big good stuff
I think if mykie actually tried more and took it seriously, then she could do something great. She at least has the semi skills to get somewhere
But I guess views are in mediocre makeup looks and lazy sfx works
The comment section is a mess full of J stans defending their lord, even when it was proven that he is racist (yet again)
Am I the only one creeped out by how cult-like he and his fans act though? They don't ever see him in the wrong & will end your life (Laura Lee) in a second if HE wanted them to do so
Mentioned what again? I was talking about the video because there are new info about this scandal, so yeah maybe you thought I was repeating something.
You sound bothered
It seems easy until these influencers realize their money comes from the shit they hate.
Go into actual MUA jobs if you hate making videos so much? I don't get why he has to leave the beauty community to feel release from being a snake.
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James is so funny to me, he did a double swatch for one of the colors in his palette (because let's be honest, Morphe is shit) and he tried to disguise it as a one swatch = full pigment
Morphe is the meme of the beauty world, a genius idea really. Someone private labels from China, gets a bunch of gurus to do free advertisement = hella profit.
Regarding James, he’s a complete tool and I can’t stand his persona.
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Probably not the best thread for her but I couldn't find another one.
>gets thousands of dollars worth of painful cosmetic surgery
>looks no different
Nice try Elaine. Maybe you should just try loosing weight?
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Your viewers aren't stupid Elaine. I bet she used all the money on the ps, I'm guessing the clinic gave her a 30-50% discount for the advertising. It still ain't cheap considering she had 6 procedures done. 10 bucks she's gonna lie through her teeth and be like "I SWEAR TO YOU GUYS I WOULD NEVER DO THAT, I NEVER USED THE MONEY TO FUND THE PS" I'm so done with Elaine.
She didn't use any money on the plastic surgery. No offense but watch the fucking video? Maybe? The surgery was free for her review.
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She got lipo but still looks fat??
>travels to Korea for ps
>4 hours under the knife
>looks exactly the same
She's always been like this (see her reviewing Michelle Phan Em cosmetics, they were so shitty even Tati's fans are calling her out)
Of course, she would kiss ass for the bigger YouTubers, but will be so critical for the smaller ones.
Unless he did eye swatches on the snaps I won't be convinced that Morphe ain't shit.
I will be waiting for Thatgirlshaexo video on the palette, because she is the only BG I know who does eye swatches (which honestly should be the standard of swatching colors)
this was him in january of 2017
No no-makeup videos or pictures of his post-surgery face yet but he said he will upload one once the swelling's gone down
It's honestly tragic. I'm all for letting people do what they want to do with their body and I know he's struggling with mental illness but leaving aside the fact I think his face looks absolutely awful now I can't see how this will hold up long-term considering he's still in his twenties. There's so much he had done I feel like his face will just collapse eventually
Thanks anon, also, >>730143
Oh my fucking god how mentally unhinged does one have to be to do this to themselves
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He based his jaw on Priscilla Presley and his eyes on Jocelyn Wildenstein.
She legit looks like she's a midget. Her head is one fourth the lenght of her body…>>729901
Shit like this triggers
Short and fat af, but>I fit in a size small, I'm so tiny teehee
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He’s trolling right? Or is he just in hard denial of what he has done to himself?
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He used to be really cute/attractive.
He's probably still riding the plastic surgery high and soaking up all the attention he's getting. I'd like to say it'll sink in eventually but there's been worse looking PS victims that claimed to be totally happy with their abysmal appearances so who knows. >>730744
Whatever the reason it's got to be some kind of mental illness. Needing to sink that far into into a fake character you made up to feel good about yourself is not a particularly good sign.
He posted a photo of Laura, Manny, Nikkita, and himself flipping the finger and tagged it "imagine stanning a racist" which was a dig at Jeffree Star (all of them were his ex friends) even though Manny and Laura took the photo for other reasons and they weren't aiming at Jeffree. Manny even told Gabriel to delete the tweet because he wasn't trying to start a fight with Jeffree.
Jeffree fans of course started digging in their history and found a racist tweets from Gabriel and the infamous Laura Lee tweet that ended her career. After receiving so much backlash, Gabriel went on camera and threw his friends under the bus "they were talking bad about Jeffree so I believed them" "I'm sorry Jeffree I shouldn't have trusted these fake people bla bla" even though Gabriel was the one who instigated this whole drama without his friends knowing. Now he is all up in Jeffree's ass and is still throwing them under the bus whenever a drama channel wants receipts on Manny or Laura.
I just wanted to know if he had any milk though because he's such a snake and everyone is so hypnotized by his acts
Whoever did this is a criminal. A surgeon without any integrity at all. I've seen surgeons from Russia and Turkey turning potential patients down because they recognized body dysmorphic disorder and advised them therapy instead, and then you get glamorous Beverly Hills surgeon seeing someone who walks in their office looking like >>730117
and agreeing to work on them… and doing a shitty job, too
I don’t think any of his surgeries were done in America. I think his awful nose job was done in turkey, but I’m not positive.
He’s from the UK
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That’s him without all that makeup. His face is forever fucked
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I was diappointed with his video its pretty shit and a rush job. It was interesting tho I went to eltoria's twitter and for the few weeks running up to this video she had been retweeting jaackmates tweets and I wonder if it was a plot to get him on her side as he says he thinks shes alright and hes clearly not done his homework she was slagging him off last year.
Also bitch is a skinwalker, and her face looks weird in this, I assume its been edited?!
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i feel mean for this but sh's tested my patience by doing this so many times. i really don't understand why she keeps forcing the zoella comparison. when she tries to replicate the pose and outfit she looks like a much harsher, less attractive version of her. if i had a face like hers the last thing i would want to do is bring attention to someone who looks like me but a lot more cute and feminine. shit would be depressing.
I feel like she tells herself she looks just like Zoella to convince herself that she's not plain looking but she really out to just cope or find her own way of being pretty. I never even quite got the hype about zoella's looks other than her being cute and youthful looking, but when you stick her next to someone like eltoria the difference between her and an average looking girl really jumps out.
I hate this shit. Why do the 1% of people born perfect and beautiful have to fuck it all up with surgery and drugs. It's like they're rubbing it in. "Watch me completely destroy something most people desparately want and will never have!"
It's like watching someone take a sledgehammer to a Ferarri, or burn a Baroque painting.
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BITCH WHAT THE FUCK
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Maybe he has a 60 year old milf fetish hence why he dropped thousands to look like one lul
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How long is this "happiness" going to last tho?
He has more surgeries on the agenda for next year so the buzz should continue for a bit.
Interesting to see him in motion to see how much he's gone in on his cheeks (the video version)
Is that seriously the same person? This is fucked, he clearly has BDD/some mental illness. >>733758
JaackMaate kind of a cunt tbh, I don't like Zoella and her antics but he seems to have a huge hateboner for her for…what exactly? Her being a capitalist shill? He talked about her overpriced advent calendar for weeks.
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I tried his palette at Ulta when it first came out and I have no idea what fucking product he had in his hands or he sent to other influencers because I swatched that shit and it was TERRIBLE.
It was patchy af and not at all as pigmented as what people claim it is. I thought maybe I was being too critical but I have the Jaclyn palette and it swatches 100% better, they also had it at the store and I compared both and oooofff…James sure got the short end of the stick with that formula. It is pretty trash. No wonder he had to fucking give everyone instructions on how to use it. One wrong move and that palette is trash.
This guy keeps popping in my feed and I don't get how he is getting attention at all. His make up is awful, his reviews are obnoxious and the more I see of his videos the more he is starting to look like a mother fucking ghost. Like he just slapped his face with baby powder and let the residue be his foundation.
I get that he is going for the whole k-pop vibe but his make up looks nothing like actual k-pop artists when they do music videos or are in concerts. He only tries to recreate the overly photoshopped pictures that are obviously not an everyday look.
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well this is his logic, but that's so subjective you could just as easily say "at least a vampire is romanticized and intelligent, a gorilla isn't even human!" Even if he somehow didn't mean it in a bad way he's an idiot for acting like a widely held opinion is objectively wrong because of his minority opinion. If he had a shred of a point, he presented it in the stupidest, most provocative, unclear way possible, instead of communicating with literally anyone.
she was trying korean makup not Japanese makeup
so I can see why it was considered racist.
I'm not surprised that James is very mediocre at makeup and relays heavily on Facetune. After all, he messed up so bad without his studio lightings, filters, and facetune in this Covergirl Campaign.
He really fooled Zendaya and Covergirl with his over-edited pictures, and embarrassed them in this challenge lol
(You know, since Zendaya saw him recreating one of her looks and tagging her, she recommend him to be the first male Covergirl model. Little did they know that he basically just edits his photos and isn't actually skilled)
Apparently hes tweeted more derogatory shit about women and poc and liked/retweeted conservative/alt right stuff but went on a deleting spree, if I find receipts hopefully by someone who got them before he deleted I will post.
A real pity because I thought he was one of the few non-shitty BG's. Guess I was wrong.
By photoshopping his highschool pics and it going viral.
Proof you can be popular with a bunch of lies
Something really similar happened to me, I was starting a sfx instagram, since I really liked her work, and in later october / early december we had this event called ''Zombie Walk'' which I made like an eye hanging zombie. I didnt saw this make up anywhere in that year, non even youtube (tell me if I was wrong) I posted in my ig and obviously I tagged her for the likes and what not. Later she made the same make up look but with a neon zombie… That was pretty disappointing but I didnt know about lolcow and I didnt think to share it but since its not the first time she does this.
Sorry I blurred my picture also I changed my ig name and that post is
archived but If you need more proof I can show ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B36iDJozmYA
I don't think yours is similar enough to say it was copied, it's more likely she saw it in the tags and it sunk into her subconscious.
In the same year (I think) she did a butterfly makeup that was inspired by a painting I posted on my Instagram. And then made a video about inspiration and mentioned being inspired by paintings. (it wasn't mine btw and all happened on the same day I tagged her in a post which she reacted to)
She was a lot more creative back then so I think she was looking everywhere for inspiration. >>734170
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what do yall think about this whole Jackie Aina thing ?
Tbh out of all thinks she should have gotten "cancled " for
woudl be the fact that shes still with two-faced cosmecis afetr their Ceo just posted a photo with his cake saying "rich lives matters "
but Jackie being Jackie usually picks and chooses what type of activism she wants to partake in.
would like to know everyone elses thoughts on this ?
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Anon, I don't understand what you are trying to say? Why should she get cancelled for previously collaborating with Too Faced (who just now are getting exposed for being racists?) Should we cancel Nikkitutorials too because she did a collab with Too Faced years ago?
I really don't give a damn about Jackie, but if there's some missing milk you didn't post, then this is just stupid
Don’t agree with you on the due skold be canceled bs but I hate when poc like her make comments that generalize white people
Bitch would lose her shit if someone said this same thing about black people.
I didn't mean cancel as I'm canceling her myself
but rather referring as others doing so
I should have worded it better
Yeah Jackie ain't shit and only calls out someone when it benefits her.
But those who are screaming "reverse racism" at her are just fucking cringey.
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Cleaning Jeffree's image part 2
>>748203>Hey do you want a collaboration medium that I have nothing to do with/interest in and will never personally use or have any say in besides packaging because you're all brainless moths flying around my ass acne who can't see through even the most transparent pieces of money hungry shits.
I just don't understand why you want makeup collabs from rando content creators when the ones coming from Beauty Gururs are already majority wise shitty from colour choices to quality. Im just convinced his viewers actually 100% eat feces because how do you look at that sweat soaked rag of a man, all his conspiracies and ~sew deep documentaries~ yet not see his scam/usage of fanbases for the sake of pure sales.
Calling atleast one shade to be called Hemorrhoid, thats a dark brown neutral.