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Like Wengie ?
Kinda hard to top that dorito chin.
Also if Kim leaves does that mean she can't be talked about in the Jvlogger thread anymore ?
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they look the same
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Sharla's vlogs in Korea are so gross. It's just her looking at gross hoodies and sweatshirts and being a stalker Koreaboo.
>I want to get fluent in Korean sumday guiiiiize!!!!
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Kim looks better tho
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So Rachel is now modeling AND acting. Wow, what a talent she is.
besides like it was mentioned above, native english speakers speaking in Japanese often don't have amazing pronunciation, however if you compare Sharla and Loretta it's extremely easy to tell how bad Sharla's is. Or Dakota. I don't like Dakota but there's no denying her Japanese is amazing.
I made it with Imgur, which is probably why it's so grainy>>242318
I speak pretty good Japanese, but there are those god-tier foreigners who really are on the level of an educated native Japanese person and they always blow me away.
Dakota speaks well enough, but not like an actual Japanese person.
for people who don't have certain sounds in their native languages (i.e "ry" combo in Japanese, like ryu or ryo etc) it's super difficult for them to learn, but yeah, with practice it can still be done.
Dakota's pronunciation is fantastic, but I agree her grammar isn't top tier. Sharla, however, has 0 excuse for being in Japan for 10 years
Please make that video!!!
I need a cringe fest!
Thanks anon. Idk I still think he's an asshole. He's rude to his fans and girls, he criticizes women often… ugh no, sorry I have this weird feeling about him.
I couldn't care less about Aki and Joey but I don't judge her by her looks, love works in mysterious ways.
It's like he's trying to be cyr but is not edgy or hipster enough to actually go there lel.
Either way, good on him for just cutting them out tbh. Better that than doing fake yt videos for views.
A friend is going through a similar situation and I can't stop thinking it's what happened to them. In my friend's case, his former best friend brought her boyfriend to live with her. They're like 5 people in the flat, 6 with him. Nobody likes him, plus he's really gross. They argued with her, they told her he can't stay. Things went worse and she started to behave like a child,she even said something bad about the deceased grandmother of my friend's boyfriend. Then my friend left because she said she was going to leave but changed her mind and said she wanted to stay
I don't know what happened to Shine and Joey but I feel like it was due to Aki. I don't think Shine is jealous, it's not like he has a crush on Joey from what we know he's straight. So I think maybe he said he doesn't like Aki and gave his reasons and Joey started to behave like a drama queen or Joey wanted to bring Aki frequently to the flat and Shine and Kat don't wanna haver her around too much (and Joey started so be a drama queen). And about Sharla, if I were him I'd also cut tied with her. Ok Shine is not the most mature guy on earth but Sharla is too fake and I can't stand her OMG SOOO GOOOOD and the way she talks avoid everything. I even find Sharla more fake than Bii.
About* sorry I'm still sleepy
just watched the video of this and surprisingly enjoyed it.
it's way better than the other stuff i've seen from them, which was boring af.
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Is that pubic hair on Kim's cheek?
>>243960>So I think maybe he said he doesn't like Aki and gave his reasons and Joey started to behave like a drama queen
Omg anon listen it's ok if you are Shine's fangirl but it's always a problem when your best friend doesn't aprove your relationship.
How would you feel if your friend start saying hurtful things about your bf/gf's body? that's RUDE, and please we are talking about Shine, do you think he just "gave his reason" in a nice way? pfff he probably shit talked her like never before.
Anon, only because you don't like Aki bc she's a hentai weeb it doesn't mean that SHE is the problem, if you don't like your best friend's gf you should keep it to yourself or talk to your friend in private, you just can't start trashtalking her and expect that your friend is not going to be mad at you, in fact that makes YOU the problem simply because it's not your damn business who your friend loves and fucks and you should respect your friend's relationship (unless she/he's abusive or something extreme like that).
"His reasons" my ass, Shine is an asshole who judges women based on their looks. >>243977
Yeah… I have the same feeling.
>>244091>asshole who judges women based on their looks.
do you know what site you're on?
I didn't anywhere where Shine said something about Aki's body, or did I miss him trashing talking about her?
If anything it's probably both aki and shine that were the problems, and if one or both dislike each other they shouldn't be subjective to live together- And it was Shine and Joey's place right? One's relationship that is brought in after does kinda matter.
>>244091>asshole who judges women based on their looks.
Welcome to lolcow, we do the same. Are you a newfag? >>244152
>I didn't anywhere where Shine said something about Aki's body, or did I miss him trashing talking about her?
I think he hasn't said anything about her publicly, if not PULL would have discussed it and I haven't found anything.
>>244152>do you know what site you're on? >>244165>Welcome to lolcow, we do the same.
That wasn't the point and it's not an excuse. I'm talking about Shine not lolcow, different topics.
It was an hypothetical situation, anon was like "Joey is such a drama queen" obviously something bad happened there, not just a "I don't like Aki", I doubt Joey decided to move to a different place and ufollowed Shine just because he's dramatic.
oh yeah, Joey looks dirty. His hair is always greasy and he doesn't really seem to take care of himself
Shine's hair is fucking damaged by the bleach and he should give his hair a break but at least it looks clean.
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but in any case bii does look like another person sometimes without makeup, but i feel like if she stopped with the duck lips she'd be 100% prettier agh
also i second the fact that i hope kim falls off the radar. she's incredibly boring
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The Taylor-copying intensifies
Fucking christ, can we post actual good conversation instead of desperately trying to shit on every girl that ever appears in a vlog? It's not entertaining, it's pathetic. Cut that shit out.
Back to the actually interesting conversation, anyone who's defending Shine and saying Aki was the problem should go to pt and read Shine's thread. I'm hoping Joey moved out because he had some idea of what was going on in that house.
Being a pedo is not a "shitty trait" it's being a pedo & obviously not what's talked about it that comment.
But good try pork-chan white knight.
Not everyone who points out your stupid hyperbole is a wk.>>246506>>246617
Those posts were really specific and sudden. I thought it was him defending himself tbh.
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this face she's making triggers my punching hand
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It's allowed here, so we'll keep talking about it.
ChowhateverSaram looks like a horrible Lois Griffin. Girl has a fucked up face and an even worse hairstyle.
Sharla claimed the original reason she turned vegan was because she was watching some videos about chickens and was so distraught over it that she could never eat or use animal products again !!
For her to backtrack now and suddenly become "plant-based" despite ~caring so much about animal welfare~ is pretty suspicious.
her story always seemed so fake, how do you make it to 30 without knowing where eggs and chicken meat comes from? what mass factory farming is like? that animals don't enjoy it?
is she retarded or something?
Sharla is not plan-based though. I don't buy the Vegan thing either, she comes from a vegetarian family, she knew about animal cruelty and all that stuff for sure. I think the reason she turned vegan was to lose weight, probably motivated by her coming wedding. She even said she wanted to lose weight for the wedding dress, "I want to be comfortable in summer clothes" and so on. I think is obvious she is not 100% happy with her body but boggles my mind why she didn't think about making exercise, I guess that takes some effort and willpower.
I think she looks good in any case.
>>247534>>247787>Why would you suddenly care at 30
I'm not defending Sharla or anyone who jumps on the vegan bandwagon, but despite being a vegetarian for 25 years, I only just found out this year about the true situation of egg farming (beak burning etc). I knew it was bad, but I like omelettes so I never looked into it further.
Sometimes people just don't want to know, so they don't research stuff. And even then it's easy to be turned off short-term from animal products until eventually you 'accept' it, and just repeat this cycle for years.
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Better than her frikin hoodies if you ask me, lol
telling people, that you're gluten intolerant is a good way to cut out refined carbs, which helps stay lean.
i feel like a lot of people do it for that reason.
also, being gluten-free seems to help if you have IBS.
and i'd rather be telling people, that i have some food intolerance, than that i have IBS.>>249475
looks like she's concealing her unattractive bits and accentuating her flattering ones.
makes sense tbh.
What is wrong with her nose?
Also anyone else thing it was really rude to make half the video ranting about a homeless man?
She comes across as so snotty and privileged holy shit.
This chick seems offensive in multiple ways, including her face.
Meanwhile, actual homeless in Japan are like..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Moiq6Wrpd8
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Rachel looks really cute as a brunette. She should dye her hair a darker colour. I also don't like these blue contacts she's been wearing in all of her videos, they're really shit and her natural eyes keep popping through.
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Please no! Her natural ginger hair color is to die for!
>Also did anyone see Sharlas gross comment on Taylor's valentines day video? puke
(for those who don't get it, mushrooms look like penises)
In an older vlog she and taylor were talking and laughing about how mushrooms looked like penises so I guess it's an inside joke.
A gross one at that.
there's no way she meant that comment in a sexual way.
mushrooms are legit delicious.
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The return of Kim's crusty ass lips
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Is Sharla dying? The fuck is going on with her eye
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I don't think anything is happening, is just lighting and maybe makeup, she usually does a decent job with her eyes but she has dark circles and bags under her eyes, maybe lack of sleep or she is getting older (obviously).
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I have the feeling she is going to have really bad looking eyes when she gets older, take care of yourself Sharla and sleep more.
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Tranny-chan 2 years ago and now
>comments are all YAAAAAAS QUEEN your makeup looks great
Damn and I thought we were the men's ones
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Those lips. She looks like the joker from that ancient batman tv show
Living proof that you do not need to hop on every bandwagon just because it's trendy
jfc Bronwyn wtf
I think she's been saving up for this for about a year or two since she was planning on doing the same thing before her ex bf broke up with her last year.
I also think someone mentioned in the goth thread that Kaya hangs out with her because her family is rich?
>I mean it doesn't seem like she and her boyfriend got a job there?
They haven't gotten one yet. Iirc, she said she has enough to live off of for a few months and that she wants to enjoy the time they have before they have to work.
Speaking of the job thing, I'm wondering what they're going to do for that since neither of them speak Japanese and I think they'd still need a degree to teach English
But that raises a bigger issue of their circumstances of getting into Japan in the first place. You need a work visa in order to work in Japan and that's hard to get.
You can't just move to Japan and live there, they need to have a purpose. If the government finds out that they came on a vacation visa with intention to work without figuring that shit beforehand, it could restrict future access to Japan for them.
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Sharla's fiance in the mirror. Look at the way he's dodging when he realizes he can see himself.
Judge for yourself: https://youtu.be/TUT2Bx3JhGk?t=3m56s
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Is that really him?, maybe is someone from her agency helping her to film. In her last thumbnail he looks like he has longer hair and maybe a goatee or beard?.
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Speaking of retards, it's beauty product, not "medical"
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Not sure if you're trolling, but this is probs what the anon meant. they have 'em in fabric and diff patterns.
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Micaela has serious issues if she has to go this far to reply comments she dislike or disagree.https://twitter.com/ciaela/status/839695981637599232/photo/1
Well to be fair, I've never heard of it either. Maybe it's because I'm European, idk how popular that is in the other western areas. I can just say that for my area, people probably wouldn't know what the fuck it is(and looking at that wiki, I can see that's a good thing). >>266010
She looks totally fine.
Just going out on a limb here.
I think they are saying that in their opinion, they think Rachel looks good with darker hair.
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Nice change Sharla…..
people stuck in 2004 with the taste of old fashioned mall goths>>267562
lol sucks to be you. have fun with your unique, fried tumlr hair xDD
Your detector is broken. You sound like someone who desperately wants to try it but is too much a slave to the opinions of strangers to try.
Suck to be you.
i actually enjoy internet personalities or celebs interact with haters, as well as fans.
even if that is through an unusually sassy (for a jvlogger) post. shows personality.>>267834
probably true. would be worth it though, i think.>>267940
lol what? wouldn't sharla say something in favour of colourful highlights, since she just got them?
Simone and Martina: Smash
I'm pretty sure he's quite familiar with all of them, but I do notice that he doesn't really give any personal reasons behind his passes. Possibly to avoid drama.
Simon and Martina?
is he blind
So this is why she does her hair so much:
"I hair model for Nalu (not actual modeling, they just use my hair pics on their social media etc) so I get my hair done for free."
Is it just me, or does Nicole look fairly uncomfortable when Taylor shows up?
IDK, I get the vibe she wanted it to be just her and Sharla, for her birthday..
No shit, hence why I laughed because I was taking it half seriously until I read that part.
Cool your boots, friend.
I'll just throw some "lesser known" (or should I say rarely mentioned) names at you so you can have a look
Hope you find something you like :)
I enjoy all of their content
jason is lost
Life where I'm from
Charly in Japan (mostly food related)
Shinichi's world (Shinichi from TabiEats)
sorry about that>>274517
right! shit always happens to good people
Bernie Low (beanmylife)
Kazuko from Japan
Japan with Regan
emixlea's life in Japan
Hide in Osaka
ONLY in JAPAN
Blinchik in Japan
You, Me, Japan
Wherever With You
Sandra No Sekai
Kazuko from Japan moved to Vancouver BC.>>274515
"Life where I'm from" is pretty good. I posted about it once on one of the Miranda threads as an example because that girl is only 10 or 11 years old and makes better looking and more informative vids. She also better in front of the camera (natural and relaxed, not all cringey-as-fuck like Miranda).
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Happy Girl. The video was pretty good.
and he makes the videos because she wants to do it (most of them anyway)
at least he said that in one of his videos
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Is that really Sharla?, maybe is just me but she looks a little different from how she looks on her videos, is just angles what make her look that different?.
Eh, Micaela got fat recently though. She made that butthurt video about it.
Sharla's always been a little chubby.
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I get why you think she looks different, she can look slightly different sometimes but is really not. Sharla benefits tremendously when she films with high angles to flatter her "jaw/cheekbones/double chin". Also, lenses can make you look fatter or thinner than you are in real life.
so, i watched some recent videos of sharla. when i first discovered her i kinda liked her content, but after a while gave it up because she's so fucking insincere. it irks me. her only description about anything japanese is "sssooo goood" and after a while it just becomes annoying. i just can't shake the feeling that she doesn't care about anything nearly as much as she says she does. she's sometimes condescending too. i mean, sure, she should be able to freely state her opinion on things but she doesn't though, and that's it. instead of saying "hmm, i don't really feel like this is something i would go for myself." about like a japanese food or sth, she just says "wooow, it's kinda weird though hahaha but it's interesting! haahah sometimes japan is so weird!" and i just.. can't stand her attitude. i do think she's pretty though, hope she figures out someday that curly hair suits her better.
btw: how the fuck is her japanese pronunciation is SO bad? like, really, BAD. in her video where they went to parks with her fiancé i was really shocked at some of the things she said. like, 0 improvement.
sorry, meant wavy
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What a transformation.
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she looks cute as heck in the posed pic.
Also - https://twitter.com/No5yuurin/status/839025360595345408
Obviously she shouldn't wear glam daily, but I do think a bit heavier makeup would suit her. Well, more than her usual plain eyeliner+mascara.
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She look so pretty in these! Her eyes pop so much. Honestly I'm a little shocked.
Really? They make her eyes look droopy to me. Like she is bored or about to fall asleep.
That makeup just doesn't work on her..
Not really criticizing Sharla. Just the chick that did that makeup.
I'm guessing she is supposed to be some kind of makeup guru? I just know not to follow any advice of hers.
Eh, I think they look nice. You rarely see Sharla dressed up in anyway or looking "sexy" or even feminine. She looks a bit jacked up in >>284903
but the angle isn't very flattering. She might do well with a less dramatic lash but overall, I think it's an improvement for sure.
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I think she's cute but the after reminds me of Jinkx Monsoon
This video shows the weakness of almost every Youtube beauty guru. They can put make-up on themselves, but they don't know how to put make up on others.>>285935
I can't find it either, but it has to be mirrored if it was shared with the doujinshi artist. I saw the video in my feed and didn't watch it, because I always feel uncomfortable when people make fun of stuff like that. I feel bad for the artist, and Mimei and Duncan really need to get over themselves. They're always criticizing everyone and everything, and then they play victim when it happens to them.
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what's up with mimei, does anyone know?
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there's also these ones
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Maybe related?, not sure how that random user in one of Taylor's vlogs could know about it, though.
So say this is true, why would Taylor drop the friendship too ? ( Though it was pointed out that Mimei was taking jabs at Taylor in videos )
I wonder if because of her fighting with Sharla everyone just sided with Sharla including Tay. Mimei use to hang out alone with Tay, but not anymore.
I'm sort of undecided. It seems like they're still following one another on social media as of now and I also don't know what they would have drama about.
On the other hand, if it is Sharla, I wouldn't exactly be surprised. Mira was 99% at fault during that whole incident, but I think it was also found that Sharla was privately talking shit about her. Maybe she carelessly said some things about Mimei and it got back to her.
I also don't understand how all of these "adults" are always caught in pointless drama. If you don't have to work with them or see them every day, just cut them out of your life.
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Also, sorry fore samefagging, but Mimei also posted this on Tumblr a month or so ago.
Yeah, a lot of this is speculation right now, but I wouldn't put it past Sharla being the main instigator of most of the group drama.
She has major queen bee syndrome and I bet whenever someone tries to do something without her/gets more notoriety than her she probably flips her shit. Remember her texts with Mira? They were just as catty as Mira's messages.
I get the impression that Sharla has a 'quantity over quality' mentality about friendship. She meets with anyone who has a social media presence in Japan (for example, she met with Jill even though they have nothing in common), and even though I'm sure a lot of that has to do with business, I also think she likes the idea of having a lot of friends. The problem is she doesn't know how to maintain any of those friendships outside of a mutual exchange relationship (like making videos together or going to Youtube events together).
There are a lot of benefits to being friends with Taylor so right now they're the closest, even though a few years ago Mimei had one of the larger channels and she and Sharla were really close.
I don't know, I'm not saying Sharla is evil or malicious, but I think she probably isn't a very good friend to have if you don't have anything to give in return.
Yeah. She's definitely the most business minded of all of the jvloggers, since collabs usually net higher viewer counts, but what I don't understand is where all her money goes. I'm hoping that she's rational enough to think that yt isn't forever and she's saving a lot of it. Either way, it's really obvious that her friendships aren't genuine and she only really works with jvloggers who are at the top of the group and leaves everyone else behind. Remember when Micaela was bigger too and they were such best friends? Now we haven't seen them in like a year together.
I really hope Emma (tokidoki traveller) doesn't get dragged in with them since she's becoming a bigger jvlogger as well (especially since it was Kim who found her new flat)
sorry for samefagging but>>287657
lol @ her making herself the spokesperson for Japan in Evan Edinger's video
Is she even considered a jvlogger anymore?
But yeah, she seems really into Korean fashion, which is a lot more girlish than most Western styles.
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By now I expect Sharla to go full slav soon.
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she's already halfway there with the adidas tracksuit
wtf.. has sharla some sort of (new developed) mental illness? or is she sick?
she looks more awful as time passes by and i think her hair starts to thin out.
still sounds like she is retarded and if she constantly has a dick in her mouth
surprise, even normal accents can sound like shit
She didn't tho? They both look overweight and unattractive.
I wonder if there are any fillers in Micaela's cheeks, they seem unnaturally bloated. Almost Taylor level.
Sharla has plenty of chub in her face, her cheeks, jowls and so on. If you watch only her face you will think she is overweight but she is fine, she only need to lose some kilos. Micaela looks different, like she is sick and her face got bloated.
Both look good anyway, not everyone can be a top model. I think they look more attractive than Taylor, in their own way.
the op gif is triggering
, what an annoying face
holy shit, after not watching Micaela for maybe a year, she got f a t.
Sure I've seen her twat defending herself about her weight kek. But god dam she's left herself go.
And sharla, you and your vocal fry have never made me skip through the video so fast before.
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Is this tattoo new (Sharla)?.
Kim is moving so they probably don't see the point in pretend-friending with her anymore since she won't be a jvlogger, Mimei had some sort of drama with Sharla and now doesn't hang out with her (and presumably Taylor by proxy) anymore.
Tbh I'm getting ready for the third gen of jvloggers to rise, Sharla's been stagnating and the rest have kind of falling off the map except for Taylor who doesn't even really fall under the jvlogger crew because she doesn't pander to weebs (as much as the rest at least)
Emma just hit 100k so she's probably going to be the next one to either join the group or bring up her own friends who are jvloggers to become the next main jvlogger crew.
I've been thinking about this as well. There's only so many videos about themed cafes, snacks, and Pokemon that they can make before it becomes a mediocre cycle that burns out. And Taylor doesn't pander to weebs, but she's a formulaic Youtuber who copies the larger Western channels, including the annoying clickbait trend.
I like Emma because her content is at least somewhat new (even though she's a little spastic), but I think it's funny that IRL she's friends with the popular Instagram accounts who make fun of jvloggers. She seems like a nice person though
No hard proof, just a few vagueposting comments done by Mimei earlier in the thread and people noticing that she hasn't hung out with any of the jvloggers in a while (and she hasn't mentioned or spoken to Sharla online or something?)>>302028
Hah is she? That's kind of weird. Whenever she hangs out with her friends in Tokyo over half are jvloggers (most are in the low thousands, she's the most successful of her group) and the rest are instagram art fags. Joey was also in the background of one of her videos as well so I'm assuming she's friends with him.
I like her because she just seems really normal. She goes out, gets drunk, has fun, etc. Not this pseudo child-weeb personalities that the rest of the jvloggers have become (never really going out at night, only going to cutesy cafes or theme shops, etc.). Like she's a regular 20 year old in a city having fun. I just wish she'd commit to a better upload schedule.
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Chill Micaela, is not the internet is just some random people. Is really that hard to ignore?
I am so happy and confident now! ~goes on to ignore a gazillion good comments and acts like a victim of boolling over one or two shady ones~
At lest it's not another underwear selfie.
She's been on YouTube long enough to know that this kind of comment is bait, but responded anyway. All you have to do is block them and move on. You can even filter out words in the comments.
I mean, I do feel bad for her to some extent, because having people point out you've gained weight sucks. But you don't have to project that onto everyone
kek seriously, no fucking evidence of her "eating healthy" or "work out". Or maybe that is too much for her to edit and compile into one video. >>302881
She used to be thin but nowhere near tay's weight. Now she's about to hit Sharla's weight if she continues her so called diet. I think she's in denial about her letting herself go.
There's a ahem big difference between how you see yourself in the mirror vs how you actually look when someone takes a picture of you.
she has been posting stuff on IG story of homecooked food and liking cooking because she gets to know what she's putting in her food, etc.
and it does seem to be pretty healthy. i know she ate healthy in aya.
but like… that aint all she's eating, she wouldnt have put on so much weight that way. i feel like she was binge eating but is getting into healthier eating now because she realises it was a problem, so she IS actively trying to lose weight or at least eat healthier… meanwhile trying to convince herself and everyone else shes fine with her body.
she's clearly not. let's not forget she also just started antidepressants. whatever she's going thru, she's not ok atm.
one has been posted before → >>266010
I don't know about any others
shes been fat for like a year and just started antidepressants like a week ago>>304940
i'm guessing whatever shit supposedly went down with sharla and mimei, mimei just assumed taylor talked shit too or w/e. it's weird tho bc kim obviously doesnt have a problem with taylor, because they just made a vid together? idk>>304957
her and duncan are bitter elitist brats tbh. i thought they were cool but they just seem like really negative and draining people to be around. no wonder they dont really have any friends besides one another
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okay but why does her voice sound like stitch
She is so fucking naive, "I didnt wanna learn japanese online, I didnt wanna learn japanese in sweden, I wanted to learn it in japan like a true japanesu"
Well tough luck kiddo, foreign schools expect you to learn basic language knowledge before you go anywhere, ESPECIALLY when you choose a country whos general english speaking is so low.. "they didnt tell me I had to learn hiragana and katakana before I came here, so like the mindless lazy drone I am ofcourse I didnt do it, I dont work unless somebody helps me change my diaper"
Everyone who has studied japanese knows that learning hiragana and katakana is the easiest part and something you can easily learn by yourself.
I don't know how you can prepare for this for a year and not figure this out?
I do believe japanese schools are bad at communication with foreign students, because they dont have the same kind of education system and mentality as the western world… in sweden where she is from you get everything spoonfed to you in schools and if you complain you get feedback, japanese schools expect you to be much more individually aware and do things yourself.
She is such a baby, she blames everything on "they didnt tell me this", as if there is no such thing as figuring things out yourself! and WHO the fuck gives up on their FIRST DAY of school!? And leave after some weeks? Even if it was a hellhole, if you paid for it you would at least give it a few months, my god!
"My dream of learning japanese will never be over" get stuffed, jesus… you gave up after 1 day of learning japanese, you will never learn it girl!
Everyone knows japan is infamous for hard working mentality with strict discipline, its their stereotype… how can you "prepare for years" and not realise its gonna be hard?
Sage for ranting, I got rustled by this stupidity
Fucking knew her face reminded me of something !
Honestly I think all of the Jvloggers are either ugly or plain Janes. Half the time they only look decent because of the thick beauty filters and overly cranked brightness them slather on every video/picture.
Honeslty, I'm enjoying the videos because of the location and to catch up to the drama but this girl to me sounds like a literal weeaboo. Coming to Japan thinking the wonderful land of nippon will all be smiles and rainbows. It will be perfect desu and she won't feel uncomfortable at all not knowing a lick of Japanese !
I used to go to an international school who had a curriculum more advanced than North America but my Japanese friend and her brother were already much smarter and more ahead than most students. The Japanese have strick dicpline. I remember she had to attend school on Saturdays with another small group of Japanese kids on top of our school work.
It's so blatantly obvious this chick just wanted a trip that came right out of a manga. Man. If I saved up and waited for 3 years I would have studied for at least a year to be able to talk to those around me.
Sorry for blogpost.
Tl;dr: weeb finds out nippon is not her fantasy and she should not be so dumb when Japanese schooling is harder than her Swedish school
Meh I've seen this behavior before when I studied abroad in Japan too. Every semester there was like one or two people just couldn't hack it, broke down, and jumped ship and went home. I knew a couple of students that knew 0 Japanese, didn't even knew Hiragana but they busted their asses and memorized it to catch up to what the school expected at the lowest level.
Hiragana/katakana is such an easy and straightforward alphabet to memorize, it's pretty much stupid proof. I can't believe she couldn't even bother to do that much. Even I memorized it a couple of days when I was like 12 lol. I can't believe she's complaining about the alphabet system lmao
She should've just traveled as a tourist instead of studying abroad
Yeah I'm genuinely not a fan of them as well. Mimei is very similar to Sharla where they're never really happy, something always has to be wrong or nitpick about something. But heaven forbid you criticize them or something they do and you'll never hear the end of it.
Also I didn't get the zoo bit. You know zoos in Japan are largely shit and bad for the animals and yet they went anyways and kept looking around/making themselves sad. Just fucking don't go in.
i completely agree. she's so fucking entitled. she knows nothing about japanese culture, why was she even interested, i wonder?>>304940
her salt in this video went right over my head, i couldn't understand what she was talking about. but after reading all the threads about this group, i really do see her having a pity-party almost every week. she's always saying things like "this week was really hard :(" or "i cried all day today but we're going to go to xxx!" like, dude, just press the red button and record a video about what makes you this
salty then be done with it. i don't understand why she's teasing it. i guess one has to have a certain amount of integrity in order to do that; and i don't know if she does.
Ughh THANK YOU! why do they have to constantly throw themselves these pity parties and then throw shade at people. No wonder you are so unhappy, you are constantly shitting on other people to the point of driving yourself into these dark places. >>305875
Also its really true what you said about the zoos. Why would they go somewhere intentionally to feel like shit. People like this honestly piss me off so much all they do is momentarily care about some issue and then they complain that they have no money and their lives are sooooo difficult that they can't do anything to actually contribute positively for the issue they care about soooo much issue>Sage for ranting, this shit just really pisses me off
This girl's voice is so fucking funny I can't handle it. I just watched it a second time and it gets funnier every time she says "Loweeser" in her Stitch/Kermit/text-to-speech-software voice
I mean honestly as corny as these swedish girls are I think they're getting dragged a little too hard by their monolingual 'merican viewers… immersion isn't a very successful approach for the kind of beginners course they thought they were taking and it sounds like a scam if the nature of the program literally wasn't conveyed to them in the application materials. shrug
As someone who hasn't kept up with Mimei's Shaylor drama, can someone explain where specifically in this video the shade is?
Besides the "i have to get this video to a certain length" bit. I honestly found this video too boring to watch in full.
The walking out of apartment door camera set up, the louis vuitton bag, bagging people that don't edit blogs and produce 20min garbage blogs, the mimei walking scene. It was all elements of Taylor vlogs but it could also be taken as nearly every other vlogger as well. Abroad in Japan did a send up of those vloggers as well recently.
Mimei doesn't follow Sharla on Social Media anymore so that's leading a lot of people to think something has gone down.
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Was Taylor always following 0 people on Instagram?
yes she always had
she comments on other jvloggers and replies to jvloggers on her own pics but she doesnt follow
Yea, she does now.
But when she first started doing YouTube and trying to get popular, she followed a lot people. After she got a solid following on IG and YT she unfollowed everyone lawl
Her bf's fobby voice is literally the ultimate turn off, and that's without having to see his face. I don't know how she can stand it.>>306875
It sounds like there are two groups now, Mimei and Sharla and people picked sides, however the jvloggers are mostly leaving town anyway.
I wish this girl was trolling, i can't handle that username
She's probably getting her nose done. Which is a bummer because even though it's protrusive
it suits her really well imo.
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I have to say that I agree. All I see is this.
This is a before and after profile view of her nose.https://www.instagram.com/p/uYYfqWu03E/?modal=true
It more so seems like she just has a small face and her nose takes up most of it. I wouldn't be surprised if her surgery was related to her jaw.
I agree with you when it comes to her natural nose. But I feel like I'm the only one who thinks her current nose isn't too bad. I don't think it's perfect on her face (I think she'd look better with a cute, round button nose), but I think her surgeon did the best that could be done with what she had.>>308570
I think she may have gotten her boobs done because of >>307110
But you won't notice it in that video because that was filmed like a month before she got whatever she got done.
You can tell she's going through hard times, and this video and her last video seem like she's really trying to get help with her situation.
I just hope she realizes that she needs to work on becoming better herself. Because the whole Yuri on Ice thing really showed that not only did she not realize she was wrong (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think she ever truly apologized), but she was not considerate of the feelings of the artist, or the Doujin community after the fact.
So it makes me think that she may have a problem with relationships in general and needs to take a look at her role in whatever toxic relationship shes in (Duncan seems the same way tbh). I'm not saying Taylor, Sharla, or whoever hasn't done anything bad here, but it seems like Mimei needs to do some personal healing herself and then get new friends.
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Bii just posted this on her twitter. Sounds related.
I'm inclined to agree with person who replied to her.
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emily who was friends with bii and sometimes hung out with the jvlogger crew responded to one of bii's tweets
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ugh at this point just fucking say what happened…
What even is this? There is no content and just flowery words about "what doesn't kill you make you stronger".
Take your subtweeting to twitter Mimei and there is no need for a video
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there we go.. looks like mimei sent out some threats?
This ganging up in an instant makes me really uncomfortable. I'm not saying Mimei is in the clear but I'll never like these kind of people.
Sage for samefagging
At this point I'm fed up with almost all of the jvloggers. I'm not taking sides because they all seem childish and petty, but these tweets annoy me. And honestly, how is Emily even relevant to this? She's just adding to the drama to make herself relevant.
The funniest part about all of this is that it's a small world, especially for foreigners in Tokyo and especially for people who are all on social media. This is all going to end up biting them in the ass at some point when they should have kept the drama to themselves.
This bunch of Jvloggers are mean girls who insist they're not the actual mean ones.
Every couple of months there is a drama with one of them. Kim Dao & Melodee Morita, Hanami Party drama, Mira drama.
I realized that Mimei only does videos alone, or with Duncan now. It's pretty obvious why she doesn't hang out with her usual jvlogger crew, but what about her Japanese friends?>>308834>>308838
I think they're all bitchy and I wouldn't touch that drama crew. But unlike Taylor, or Sharla, I don't think I've seen Bii pop off like that unless it was about her appearance. I agree she should have kept it behind the scenes though, it makes for great drama, but not worth ruining your reputation, or an ex-friend's reputation. Especially because Mimei seems depressed, and all the public accusations must be terrifying to see.
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I know Toph was in a lot of the jvlogger's vlogs, but I never followed Mimei, were they friends at one point?
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i shouldve checked his twitter before i said shit lol
apparently toph has beef with mimei toooo
Right??? "Ugh stop making yourself a victim"
Then proceeds to act like a victim in a series of tweets.
God….these girls kek
I think a lot of her Japanese friends (such as Shohei) are friends with Duncan, so I don't feel like this situation will change that. >>308849
They're all Tweeting these things in the moment because it's become an online jumping, but they're so caught up they don't realize how trashy this looks. Sharla, Taylor and Mimei only hint at these things because I think they realize how bad it looks
Taylor and Sharla haven't said shit about this. Not even hinting.
And tbh if Mimei sent or had someone send emails threatening their careers, that's pretty fucked up
I find Mimei to be insufferable and caustic but like.. I don't really get the big deal about the doujin thing. Especially if the yt vid was in english. Like how did the japanese doujin find it, and why were they a big enough pussy to get butthurt enough to claim that they would "stop making doujin". I don't care about "but it is dishonorable within the culture!" Like… that fandom is stupid then! If some shrill bitch on yt was criticizing my homemade cartoon erotica I'd probably think it was hilarious
I sincerely want someone to explain it to me in logic that's not polluted with acting like Japanese people are from another planet. I don't see why her viewers were so personally offended on behalf of a bunch of elitist pervs.
I was referring to the way Sharla has passively brought up drama in the past, not this situation in particular. But yeah, I shouldn't have included Taylor as she's only responded to criticism in that way and not other jvloggers.
Also, I'm taking what Bii says with a grain of salt until they finally spill the tea and offer proof. Otherwise this is just a glorified high school cat fight
I mean– even hurt seems like an overreaction to me, if your career (or even hobby) is drawing hentai. The only valid concern I could anticipate is the artist worrying about getting sued for copyright violations (for the likeness of the characters)– that I'd be genuinely pissed about, and if this artist is making any kind of significant income or just personal gratification from their work, I can see why they'd be pissed at Mimei endangering their artwork by potentially bringing it to the attention of the franchise's copyright holder. Especially since it sounds like Mimei's criticism is just "tee hee its GAY!!!">>308808>>308814
Bii & Toph's tweets are so histrionic. >"sigggghhhh
such a shaaaame"
Mimei's vid is ridiculous but they honestly remind me of my middle school friends cyber bullying one another on xanga
I'm losing any sympathy I have for Mimei and in general I can't stand 90% of the jvloggers already.
It looks like there has been drama brewing for a while and instead of keeping it private seemingly like Sharla and Taylor and Kim have been doing it, Mimei keeps bringing it up and looks to be trying to do it first so she comes off like the victim.
But if you have multiple people coming forward saying she's been sending threatening emails (to people who don't even seem to be big names like Toph and Emily), it makes you wonder what the fuck Mimei's doing/what happened for her to do that.
The emails had to be some sort of takedown notice or maybe there was some agreement they made on the business front? That's the only reason I would see "threatening email" to make sense. Because if not then it would literally be a friendship threat email which is so fucking Middle School and makes Mimei seem even more retarded.
I have to agree for now.. Don't care for any of the jvloggers but Mimei is looking pretty guilty of some sort of wrongdoing. While it definitely does look like the other jvloggers are ganging up on her somewhat, no one is coming to Mimei's defense at all, which makes it seem worse for her
I really hope someone will bring out receipts if these threatening emails are true, that would easily shut down any speculation.
Me too, although I don't follow their twitters so I don't know how she's perpetuating the drama like anons are saying. I've liked how she actually knows Japanese fluently and has had proper jobs with that, whereas the other jvlogger divas are there for glory and to buy weeb merch without studying the language much. Even Sharla who also has been in Japan for years still speaks with a shitty western drawl (though Sharla's still one of the other jvloggers that seem nice to me).
I also liked in the video where she talked about her horseface how people should be happy with the looks they've been given and there's no need for plastic surgery, something most of her friends do. I also think her moe husband Duncan really helped soften her vibe up from the divas, as she seems like the dominant one in the relationship.
Not at all?
Doujinshi are not meant to be scanned or uploaded online, which is one issue if she showed the drawings in a video.
Otherwise, I think any reasonable person would be hurt or freaked out if their work was uploaded somewhere just to be made a mockery of. This wasn't a "laugh with the artist", it was "laugh at these drawings, they're soooo funny!". Also, the doujinshi was created to share their passion for the characters with other like minded people, not thousands of random people on the internet who are just there to laugh at some porn.
Artists are also generally, as another anon mentioned, very protective of their work. It is something a great deal of love, planning and years of work goes into. It is a craft, and even if it's just "hentai", it's still their craft they poured their love into.
Doujinshi artists are independent artists, and a lot of them have jobs non-art related jobs, so all their free time usually goes into curating their craft.
What Mimei did was an incredibly disrespectful thing to do, and goes to show she does not care about other people's work or feelings.
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TAYLOR AND SHARLA GANGING UP ON MIMEI CONFIRMED LADIES
MILK HAS COME
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Unlike Bii and Toph, PDR says outright who started this drama and she FUCKING BLOCKS HIM
Passive aggressive bitches are all bark and no bite
True and honestly, I wish we could hear both sides of the story. The way Bii and Emily make it sound, Taylor and Sharla met with Mimei to air some grievances one of which presumably was not liking insta pictures (stupid) but I sort of doubt that was the end of the conversation because not even Sharla and Tay are that shallow. I would bet that the constant sharp digs at Tay that Mimei kept making in videos probably came up and who knows what else.
It takes two to tango.
I'm actually gonna believe Bii, on this because despite being boring as hell to watch, I actually think she is generally one of the more adult and responsible of the Jvloggers and both Mimei and Duncan seem like the of their emotional development ended in junior high school.
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For those wondering why Mimei's husband PDR has been inserted into this drama
>she was blocked
>she has no voice
I cannot wait.
No more fake friend picnics and hair salon selfies
No more "vegan" Budha Bowl recipes
No more videos of their cats looking bored
No more shopping hauls of shitty kbeauty brands and childish clothing.
No more vlogging days at home opening their mail
here. Also not Bii.
I'm just pragmatic.
Sage for ot.
This is one of the funniest things about this whole situation.
I think Bii learned the hard way that you don't stand up for someone that hasn't stood up for themselves, and that it's okay to look out for yourself. Now she has tarnished her reputation when she didn't have to.
It sucks because people are expected to stay out situations that don't involve them, but then they're told that they're part of the problem if they say/do nothing. So I understand her and the other vlogger's need to defend their friend, but it really was the wrong move to do.
is her reputation really tarnished though?
idk, i don't think she was trying to involve herself in this necessarily but i think she was just trying to defend her friend.
there's gotta be more to it than 'not liking instagram pictures', that is sooo stupid.
also, just because they blocked mimei doesnt mean she has no voice. she could always make tweets and just not tag them.
mimei is the one who kep ttrying to mke this public in the first place, its her own damn fault, and if her OWN HUSBAND only has the excuse that 'booo they didn't like her not liking their insta pics' to defend her, i think that says enough.
theyre all immature idiots but i think mimei is definitely in the wrong here. taylor and sharla are doing the smart thing, bii shouldnt have spoken out but she seems the type to voraciously defend those she cares about, and hell it makes it milkier for us so i thank her for that.
she has lol
i did think that maybe she involved herself because she misses japan and just wanted to feel included again.
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In the mentions of this tweet, I think, Duncan replies a fan with this tweet of Mimei. I can only understand "Friends told me that they wanted me to see liking and commenting more, I can't believe this 21st century world!" or something like that. Anyone who can properly translate it would be appreciate it. The date of the tweet is February.
Bii, you are so ugly and irrelevant. You're not even tweeting once, you've tweeted about this, what like 8 times? Are you that desperate for attention that you're giving info Mimei didn't even come close to giving? Saying that Duncan shouldn't speak for Mimei when you're speaking for Sharla? Jeez, go get another cosmetic touch-up, or 10, in your face because you look like a proud member of the MTF trans community.
Mimei didn't make a video about it. It could have been about anything, at any time of her life with anyone. The only example that she mentioned was from elementary school (showing that this was not just about a petty fight). I think she just wanted her subscribers to know that she's having a hard time.
Bin made a bunch of bitchy and passive aggressive tweets. So what's your point?
“ Human relationships are hard, aren't they.
I was told things like "Like my instagram posts more!If you don't, we're not friends! Comment too!"
Really? I can't be bothered with 21st century friendships. ”
I agree. It seems like this whole thing stems from an issue with Sharla. Taylor and some of the more irrelevant jvloggers are just collateral.
And I'm not blaming Sharla without knowing more about the issue, but after all of the shady things that came up after the Mira incident I wouldn't be surprised.
Well, yes. But Mira isn't reliable to my eyes. That's why I'm asking about BiiBii's credibility.
Also I never saw the screens between Sharla and Mira, I'd like to see them. Does anyone know where they are?
I think the central players are Mimei vs Taylor/Sharla.
The other jvloggers observed from the sideline - but Bii has no tact and decided to insert herself in the situation because she thought Mimei was bitching about her friends in the latest video.
It looks like a lot of people who arent in the jvlogger inner circle also know about the situation - Toph and Bii's friend who arent friends with any of them also commented about the situation on twitter.
So since so many people know what happened I wish one of them would come here anonymously and tell us what really happened.
I am not going by what only Mira has said but by the actual text messages that were leaked between the two. Sharla made Tweets about Dakota rose and Venus angelic in the past.
Bibi looks Asian but she says that she is white. It is possible that she does not know where her ancestors are from but common now. PDR and Mimei are way more trustworthy people. They don't ever get involved in drama.
Now I really, really, want to see them.
I kinda enjoy Sharla's videos (befor Taytay came in the picture) but she's coming off not so nicely since the Mira thing and I'm starting to suspect she's some sort of Blair Waldorf.
PDR seems trustworthy to me too, to be honest.
I searched on Google and I could only find this onehttps://lolcow.farm/snow/thumb/1466591400946.png
Somebody made it by posting some of them together. I honestly can't find the originals. Does anyone have it saved?
Okay I managed to find some. But honestly there were more. Someone came in….somewhere and dumped a huge doogie of J-vlog drama leaked chats that really showed Sharla's double side
It starts from
10 months ago No. 146469>>>/snow/145728
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At least one jvlogger is supporting Mimei and he knows the clique.
sharla is queen bitch.
i never really paid attention to her because she looks like a frumpy grandma.
but damn she hides it well.
tbh i'm relieved she has at least someone on her side
even if she's equally in the wrong it's just gross watching all these people gang up on one person.
Run Mimeim run. Thats not the help you want.
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Jesus Mira sit your ass down
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sorry for ms paint job but kek
Mira is circling like a shark that senses blood, but I think Mimei is smart enough to keep her distance.
All Bii achieved was making a bad situation worse. Callouts only work when you have proof and you go about it in a more high-minded way rather than catty Tweets. She should have let Sharla fight her own battles.
i think if anything bii has made this whole situation worse for the queen bitches Sharla and possibly Taylor.
she confirmed Mimei was indeed fighting with the jvlogger crowd and it is probably because she didnt like
Sharla's instagram pics enough (HA HA HA)
and now it is out open in the public everyone might really see Sharla and Taylor for who they really are.>>309160
yeah it looks like they still hang out and follow each other on instagram. i always thought kimdao was a boring potato but if she didnt join in on the bullying of Mimei I have some newfound respect for her.
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Here and the Mira thread in /pt
The funny thing is, that pic of Sharla with the text messages were from the text with Mira.
Where Mira talked about creating fake account to shit talk Mimei
honestly I doubt Mimei will lower herself to Mira's level, she's not that desperate.
For me, Mimei was always sticking like a sore thumb between the jvloggers. I don't think she's >better< but I do think she's different from them, and wanted to fit in, but after all she can't sit with
"cool" girls lol. They clashed about something stupid - yeah, I can believe the reason she and PDR stated, because most likely the beef was already ongoing, just in the shadows or behind Mimei's back. They just wanted a reason to exclude her from the group, and I think she tried to distance herself either - I remember several vlogging parties she bailed on with a silly excuse. So, in my opinion, they were on poor terms for quite a while, and unresolved shit just hit the fan.
I wonder what Rachel thinks about it. She's close friends with Sharla, isn't she, but at the same time I don't (Want to) think she's as petty as the rest of the clique
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Nah when she's actually trying, Rachel is easily prettier than everyone except Taylor. Anyway in my experience R&J seem more mature than everyone else and probably won't get involved.
Lowkey though I'd fucking LIVE for that crusty old gimmeaflakeman to make another one of his drama vlogs on this situation like he kept doing when Mira's shit hit the fan.
I feel like Bii is the biggest bitch out of all of them.
The way she's instantly trying to get people to back her up in ganging up on Mimei.
Really if you think about it, If Bii wasn't so passive aggressive in those tweets then this wouldn't have been so obvious.
Especially since Sharla(/Taylor) wrote nothing of it. Bii didn't need to defend anything she could've shit talk mimei privately
We didn't even quote your posts yet and you're already taken credit for them! God, you are slow. You're using those misplaced eclipses again and you still can't use idioms correctly! It's "taken aback". ABACK.
Leave Mimei alone, you depraved opportunist.
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From Mira's phone:
Mira's text in Blue Sharla's Grey
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From Sharla's Phone: Sharla's text is blue, Mira's Gray.
Notice the "HAHAHA She blocked my fake account" is missing from Mira's version (and yes, any idiot knows that you can delete individual messages from send or receiver from the phone)
Shit talking is more than "calling names" Mira.
But at least you admit that you lied about making the sock-puppets and tried to lie to hide it.
Over in Your own thread, you admitted you aren't fluent and have no interest in videos in fluent Japanese.
You are making progress. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to correcting it.
This. Bii has gone and opened a can of worms that I bet Sharla and Taylor wanted to keep closed from the public.
Its gonna seep into the public sooner or later.
Mimei is like a rainy day that never ends. Everything makes her Feel Bad and Hurts her Feelings. Everybody is out to get her all the time, the people on the street, the sunlight, her in-laws, the own clutter, her friends, the animals at the zoo, she is in a perpetual state of victimhood and can't fucking stop talking about it all over the place.
I apologize, I cried a little today, again, because I am such a Sensitive Person. I can't get along with anybody. But it's not me, it's Everybody Else.
If by any accident she felt good for one full day, she would go on and make a video about how bad it makes her feel and how she "cried a little" that she was so happy when she didn't mean to.
Nope, I'm not Mira.
And I'll give you reasonable proof. Why would Mira downplay something bad Sharla did? I mean, she isn't very bright, but isn't Sharla the bad guy to her?
Also, my last sentence has really good grammar and just states the obvious. And those are things Mira sucks at.
Maybe I shouldn't bother correcting you, but English is not my native tongue and it was hard to learn it… it's kind of offensive to be taken for someone so bad at it. D:
can we stop the sharla vs. mira discussion?
everyone knows it wasnt just only
mira, she was just shallow and dumb enough to let it get out of hand and let it intervene publicly.
i think everyone on here agrees anyway that sharla is a sneaky bitch, that hasnt changed a bit in the last 3 or so years. and im cautious about everyone she calls her "friend".
god id really love to know if taylor was a secret top bitch like sharla.
she acts so kind with everyone in vids - always buying presents and little gifts
if she really stopped talking to mimei because mimei didnt like her instagram photos … farrout!!
even before bii went on her twitter rants people were already speculating in the youtube comments that it was about Sharla and/or Taylor.
while i don't necessarily agree with what bii did or how she did it, mimei knew damn well what people were going to guess it was about
She has been shading Taylor in her videos and tweets for ages now. This video is just the most recent one that Bii reacted to after witnessing her victimhood/bitchy personality switches for god knows how long.
Was everybody just supposed to ignore it for… another year? Two years? How long before people are allowed to be fed up?
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maybe Bii was ~inspired~ by this and just wanted to make difference lmao
Well, aside from people that read here or on PULL the others had no clue. Someone was thinking something was happening between Mimei and SharTay but no one would have guessed BiiBii was involved. Or that the whole clique had problems.
BiiBii should have actually been superior (by not commenting at all publicly), instead of just pretending to be.
Bii, just stop.
If she hadn't made those tweets the video would just have been left as what it is, speculation. But now that she's practically confirmed/exposed her 'friends' she's on here trying really hard to defend her actions so that she doesn't fall out of the crew. Is it so boring being in Australia for you?
I honestly don't think Bii was involved, and was just one of those cowardly friends that picked sides and ditched a friendship over something that didn't involve her.
Bii just comes off desperate for some relevances.
As for the claims of Mimei shading Taylor.. The shit she mocked in her videos is shit almost every vlogger on the planet is guilty of " trash content" "poor editing" and "20min garbage vloggs" and load of tacky tryhard shots. I think people are getting desperate for Taylor to be 100% involved in drama. We still don't even know if her beef was with both or just Sharla. At the moment I feel like Taylor probably just did the same as Bii and picked sides.
Not really, no. Her fans have been speculating about it in the comments for a while as there has been little activity between Mimei and the other vloggers. And normal viewers sometimes do read the comments. >>309325
Hasn't she made comments in videos about credit cards/wealth as well as the "real tokyo apartment" tour? I could be reaching, but her timing for posting videos often makes people think it's about the main jvlogging crew
I'm really starting to think a lot of people here are relating too much to Mimei and letting it cloud their judgement. Yes, Bii is trying too hard to get attention, but Mimei really did start this whole thing. It's wishful thinking to expect her fans to not notice the tension brewing between the vloggers and for her to post videos now made them more suspicious. It's not "it could've been about anyone" because her timing made it connect in people's minds to current drama.
She plays the victim way too much and LIVES for the sympathy comments. Remember when she had the issue with her inlaws and they tweeted at her that she should've kept it private? Same thing with the doujin artist. All she had to do was apologize but she kept making snarky English tweets but dared not post them in Japanese.
Now imagine how she is in private if that's how she is in public. I'm sure she's annoying as all hell to deal with and these vloggers aren't real friends. She should've realized this and not put so much faith in them. And yes, this sounds like victim blaming because believe it or not, you do have to take responsibility for yourself in the real world and protect yourself against bitches like these.
How old is Mimei anyway?
Nah. For like a solid couple of months now Mimei's fans have left comments in her videos asking about Sharla/why they weren't friends anymore. She vaguetweeted a while ago about losing friends or something and since then people clearly connected the dots to Sharla since they didn't interact with one another anymore.
It was obvious to anyone who paid attention really.
What I think is happening right now is basically everyone is picking/picked Sharla's side for reasons. I think the main reasons are that Sharla is arguably queen of the jvloggers (gets the most views, interacts with YtJapan offices, seen as the 'face' of jvlogging), has been there longer than most, regularly deals with other vloggers and has given a lot of them boosts in ratings through her collabs. They basically don't want to deal with the top cow of their herd. Mimei's fucked herself over unless she has really strong receipts since she doesn't have as many fans plus she doesn't have the backing of other accounts.
Maybe through Duncan she can get the Jap support but weebs don't care about Japanese youtube so it probably won't matter much.
I don't know if someone already saw this, but Mira has a new channel. I found out by checking a shady account that commented on her comment on Mimei's video.
(The account in question is "Jasmine Johnson", which also follows very random channels. I saw it on PULL: https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/2722-mimei-and-duncan-pdr-san/?page=37
I'm not relating to any of them. Its just at the time she made those comments she was still hanging out with Taylor and they seemed good. She made comments about "actual affordable apartments" and pronunciation as well as one off set comment about how expensive the blender Taylor has is without actually mentioning Taylor by name. To me it seemed more like envy then shade. She wasn't really belittling Taylor (?), but more ogling at Taylor's wealth.
Taylor has a habit of undermining her wealth, and making everything she has seem "normal and totally affordable" for everyone. When in reality a lot of Taylor's possessions are pricey af.
At the end of the day non of them are real friends. Sharla only sticks around Taylor for the free room on board, pampering gifts and views. Bii sticks around because she's an irrelevant tranny without them. Taylor's just a over grown retard that wants to be one of the loved popular girls. Mira lingers around like an unwanted dingle berry holding on to her last hair of relevance. ( Albeit nobody is friends with Mira, but she follows there lives/Social medias religiously ) Mimei is looking for people to have as group therapy rather than just friends. All the little shit squirt channels are just trying to get their names out there on other people expense.
Excellent analysis anon.
Honestly the most pathetic was lovelymilky and toph jumping on Bii's bitching bandwagon and trying to get their no-name channels out there by being nasty. SAD.
My point was about Mimei being envious of Taylor's wealth as that is what Mimei has made remarks about. I've yet to hear Mimei comment about Taylor's looks, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was envious of that too… For w.e reason.
Honestly though, I don't find Taylor to be all that pretty. Idk man, I dunno whats going on with her face or if it always looked the way it does, but it truly looks like uncooked pizza dough in every candid shot. She only looks decent with 65% of her face covered by hair or in controlled settings/pictures taken by herself. I don't trust pro shoots as they always edit the pictures, I mean just look at how amazing Dakota looks in professionally edited pictures…
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Not sure if she counts as a jvlogger (She was and then moved to Canada with her boyfriend) but Kazuko (Kazuko from Japan) is very pretty and seems like a genuinely nice and good person. That maybe why she doesn't really seem to fit with the rest of the jvloggers.
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but what's the appeal of confronting people firsthand when you can make vague tweets instead?
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it was bulbous and even though the new one isn't perfect it's a lot cuter than before tbh, I'd choose it over the old one in a heartbeat
it was mira, pull has a good sum with all the evidence in her thread
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Yeah tbh I'm not getting the hate Bii is getting in this thread (though yeah immediately going on attack mode was dumb on her part) when Mimei is also pretty vaguebloggy/drama tier.
I just did a quick scroll down her twitter feed and found this stuff in about 6 minutes, I'm sure a fan whose been following could find more.
It looks like the only person she's hung out with since January was Kim once in January (she posted a picture of them on Intl Women's day but I don't think it was taken that day) but other than that she only hangs out with Duncan. I think that's probably also why she's been vagueing so long, the jvlogging crew were probably her only friends since she's a hardcore shut-in, so losing that little irl interaction was probably a huge blow. She needs to go out more and make actual friends that aren't fake internet ones.
Not liking or commenting on social media posts doesn't make you salty. I forget to do it half the time with my friends. It's not a big deal and doesn't indicate anything other than you probably didn't see the post.
And there's a difference between being defensive and being malicious. Bii is just stupid and doesn't understand how to callout people.
Mimei and Duncan are both able to dish it out, but then get mad and snarky over criticism.
Its strange because Mimei seems to be depressed herself, but she can't seem to empathize with other people and understand when shes wrong.
However, she must not be that bad, because all of her friendships only seemed to fall apart recently. Maybe be a combination of her being depressed and being envious of the other jvloggers?
Isn't strange how someone like Kim dao can get so many sponsorships, and someone like Mimei can't? Especially since Mimei can probably speak and read the best out of all of them, and shes thin, so clothing companies should love her. Also, she's the only one to advertise to both an English and Japanese audience. I know she just did that Wego one, but it seems like she can do so much more. >>309350
Does Japanese Youtube like Duncan again? I know he had that scandal when he called out those Youtubers who taught bad English. Didn't everyone avoid him, and then he dropped his agency? I saw him recently in some other Japanese youtuber's dance video, so I'm assuming they're accepting him again?
As far as I remember Duncan always had a solid Japanese fanbase but not as big as his brother/friend/whoever was his collaborator. (never really followed him and mimei much)
There was some drama that had him on the shitlist bit it was a while ago.
It was some dance video parodying a Drama opening, I'll see if I can find it.>>309611>>309613
I see, I don't follow Duncan so I was curious.
Agreed, I almost never spot my friends post due to the large IG accounts I follow constantly posting every hour. Plus I also follow over 200 people who are always posting. I would get it if they were upset about Mimei not texting them/texting back, but not liking statuses and IG pictures is a petty thing to get upset over.
It sounds like they treat Mimei as if she's their number one fan, or a leader of their fan club(s) and she'll be demoted if she doesn't idolize them the most.
Bunch of petty piss babies.
if you watched the video the agency was equally controlling over both of their content and overstepped bounds
Also bii is a fucking plastic muppet whats not to hate
I think Mira had a history of that before Sharla. (In the Mira thread)
But I guess birds of a feather. . .
Problem is we don't know if it was strictly business or them being salty. I still either way find it to be something stupid to fight about.
Mimei also has the lowest amount of followers out of the 3 on Youtube and IG and what also seems like the lowest amount of views too. If they were actually genuinely friends I find that this shouldn't have really even mattered as much. I don't recall them promoting Mimei loads, I mean Mimei did when they actually collaborated and vis versa.
Friendship doesn't mean its your obligation to promote them even if they do so for you. Unless there were terms agreed upon and Mimei didn't fulfill her part, then I could understand.
You're not going to quote any of the posts that you suspect are them? Why do you say that?
Bii just wants to fuel the fire because everyone is forgetting about her Facebank-looking ass. Mimei is a melodramatic dork, but they all should shut the fuck up instead of drawing more attention to themselves.
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also mimei and her "toxic friends" all have contributed one way or another to bullying people (even if its koots)
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this guy is such a fake-ass loser. spends his whole night talking shit on twitter and acts like he's the biggest badass bitch in the world for it, then deletes it the second it gets backlash and pretends it never happened. ofc all after saying it's mimei thats the cowardly snake.
pot, kettle, etc.
i think taylor looked pretty pre-surgery, but she heavily butchered her face.
especially the cheek fillers were too much and just look awful.
isnt she living in japan for around 10 years now or something?
not doubting it though, in one of the messages she also talked about opening threads and stuff on 2ch>>309826
proof or gtfo
I remember during the whole Mira gate thing sharla
popped on PULL and all the bitches in the thread were gushing and fangirling. Even Kat made a few appearances asking for money for a lawyer.
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For anything else see the Mira threads in /pt/ or PULL
Hi, Mira. And you're also here, like a fart cloud that never dissipates.
Show those damning messages and screenshots, you butthole. >>309846
The funny thing is that all those kids were into programming and highly experienced with computers too. Wrong crowd to go up against. I wish I could have seen the evidence they had against her. Her beta bf deleted it all.>>309851
Well, yeah. She's an opportunist POS too and equally dumb, maybe dumber, than Mira. She gave the awesome gift of The Blackface photo, but nothing else. She is a damn gnat.
Yes I've always thought that ever since I started watching her, which is when she created her jvlog channel. She used to look at herself in the camera way too much, now she's gotten a bit better and is looking at us/the lens. But still she's constantly preening her hair and doing selfie shots of walking around. I think she'd look better without the doll contacts.
If you guys want less known cute jvlog hosts showing expensive/interesting things then watch Chottomattenet, Wherever With You, and tons others an anon mentioned >>276322
here. Chottomatte is my favorite, an adorable little girl and boy are the hosts. Their dad is loaded as fuck and they get to do a ton of fun stuff. They describe what they're doing, how food tastes, and how their school life is very well.
Sharla borrowing a camera from Mimei was a long time ago, I doubt there is anything to see there outside Mimei saying "you needed help that time and I helped you" which she did on a tweet but without naming Sharla.
So Bii deleted her tweets?.
i was being sarcastic.
I think it's possible she might have had it changed after her wedding with visa-kun 1.0
Don't be obtuse. Mira is obviously short for Miranda and you rarely(or never) find a person that ELONGATES their first name. Miranda is her birth name, but she changed it. Her ex-boyfriend used to call her Miranda exclusively. It's illogical to have called her that if she had always been Mira. How difficult is that to understand?
Sage for feeding the troll.
yeah, wow. i bet there are thousands of gaijin in japan interested in lolcows….
dont kid yourself.
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Do you guys remember that lame "skit" taylor did with Micaela and Sharla.
Where Taylor awkwardly shouted at Micaela on the street "youre stealing my best friend" about Sharla.
And then in the restaurant in another lameass "skit" Micaela said to Taylor "Do you want me to order for you because I know you cant speak Japanese."
Do you think this was throwing shade at Mimei? About Taylor stealing Sharla from Mimei, etc.
If it is, Taylor might also be complicit in the bullying of Mimei too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLI135_zFQ
Agreed. I am just skimming and see too many posts that sound personaly defensive or angry for it to be a farmer. >>310081
Taylor and Sharla aren't talking about vegan dishes all day, of course they're all in on it.
lol right after they deliver the "Do you want me to order for you because I know you cant speak Japanese." bit Tay goes "BOOM" and uses an explosion effect really similat to the one PDR uses in his intro.
So this could be the bullying Mimei was talking about.
yeah but i thought Shartla was the lead bully and Taylor was the follower but the fact she put the skit in her own video makes me wonder if she was a leading bully too. She acts so kind and sweet in videos, but this makes me think she has a really nasty streak she is hiding.>>310085
I reckon both sides have been throwing shade for a while but we just didn't pick it up from the Shartay side because it was more subtle.
But seriously, that skit is just like an inside joke, none of the viewers had any idea what this skit was about at the time, but it makes sense in this context now we know what is going on.
Where the fuck did you get that exaggeration from? Just go on Twitter or even GaijinPot to see that Jvlogger drama is talked about by more than one person, or the Jvloggers themselves, in Japan. Do YOU even live here? I already know three expats that are anons here. Your question was stupid.>>310036
This is also true. First world foreigners in Japan love foreigner drama. But I'd wager about 80% of the posts are from Miranda.>>310081
They should all just have at it in a boxing special on WOWOW.
i meant that she was probably able to change her first name, too.which is why she is keep on harping about how that is her "real" name. We all know she was born as Miranda Ann Constable >>310025
god, stop discussing with mira
Well, Don Tardo, the first pic is her user page that shws her picture, her name, and screen name.
The second two reference her by those names.
There is tons more info on the Kanadajin threads on /pt/ (The place to be discussing her and not shitting up this thread.
GO read, you lazy fuck.
This reach. This is Taylor we are talking about. She isn't clever enough to be that subtle with shade.
Besides as far as I known, the whole idiotic concept originated between the three of them on twitter. At least that's where I first saw them acting retarded about it. >>310116
>>309816>a big secrit
>Sharla loves to post on these forums.
Tbh I think all of them read and post here.
>She has been doing it since she moved to Japan.
For example? other different than her posts in pull.
>She has been two faced for a very long time.
Kek this is not news.
think a moment about how much you and your bff are alike.
sharla and taylor are bffs. of course taylor is just as shallow and bitchy, if not even more.
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So Michaela was being her usual sadness self and deactivated her twitter for a but last month. Didn't stop her from posting this thru IG
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credit PULL. jeez what the fuck are jvloggers doing to themselves
Well, that's brilliant:"I was diagnosed and prescribed meds for depression but never bothered taking them."
Well, they don't work to well sitting in the bottle.
because you wouldnt accept and like people that you didnt click with.
KEK I love you, anon. >>309589>What if Mira was innocent all along and it was all just Sharla? lol
Very unpopular opinion bc Mira is very unlikeable, however, yes this could be the case, it's a fact that Sharla acted wrong too.
>>310212>yes this could be the case
no, it could not be the case that it was "all just sharla"
sharla was probably not any less bitchy but miranda did all of what she was accused for ahnd there is plenty of proof about that.
>>310216>no, it could not be the case that it was "all just sharla"
And that's why I said >It's a fact that Sharla acted wrong too.
It wasn't "all just Sharla" but Mira could be innocent of certain accusations.
>sharla was probably not any less bitchy
Probably? She went to PULL knowing how much Miranda hated it lol do I really need to put ALL of the examples of Sharla being bitchy? And I'm not talking only about Mira..
>but miranda did all of what she was accused for ahnd there is plenty of proof about that.Some
of the evidence
is not exactly reliable. spelling mistakes
are not exactly proof of Mira using sockpuppets, it could be someone else copying Mira's writing style or spelling mistakes, that's actually really easy to do.
Opposites can be friends, but you do tend to gravitate to like minded people more. BUT in all honesty I think their friendship is a sham. I said it once, and I'll say it again, Taylor is only good to Sharla for room on board,free shit and subs boost. Sharla is only good to Taylor because Sharla makes her feel popular and important. Taylor's obsessed with her self image so much that she can't even form an opinion on anything.
I remember in a video she made a comment about how girls are cattier than men and some femi-loon flipped on her calling her "sexist", then Taylor kissed ass and apologized to everyone because she "was totally wrong and shouldn't call women catty".
>It wasn't "all just Sharla" but Mira could be innocent of certain accusations.
No, you are not innocent.
>do I really need to put ALL of the examples of Sharla being bitchy? And I'm not talking only about Mira..
Yes, but actual proof like unedited screenshots (Most people have the full ones, so it will blow up in your face again if you try that.)
But you are starting to suggest your own guilt, so, making progress
>spelling mistakes are not exactly proof of Mira using sockpuppets
Yes they are, no one rapes the English language quite like you do (Miranda is the only person to ever use this defense. Dead giveaway)
>>310284>No, you are not innocent.
Dude stop being paranoid, I'm not Mira.
Sage for useless.
Exactly. Taylor makes little jokes all the time. Like the house tour with the little fence thing "for keeping Rosie in there or Kim Dao"
It's a joke (and that was before Kim moved)
Gonna have to side with >>310411
on this one. Does she still teach English? Unless her husband isn't her breadwinner I'm assuming that YT isn't her primary job any more. I get the vibe (from linked vid especially) that she's kind of sick of media in general. Which is understandable because she's been ~JvLoGgiNg~ for an actual decade…
There are a lot of depressed people on Youtube in general. It doesn't matter what niche you search, what race the person is, how successful the person is, etc., mental illness attacks everyone. Youtube is a job where people can do what they want and stay at home. So its no wonder it attracts people like this.
What I don't understand however, is how how these Jvloggers find it hard to make other friends. There are so many vloggers, and all you have to do is message them and ask to hang out. That's it. PeachMilky is a great example of this. So why stay in a friend group that treats you horribly? No one deserves to be treated like shit, or to be lonely, but you also have to be proactive getting out of that situation.
Sharla may be a bitch, a user, and quantity over quality person when it comes to friends, but she isn't afraid to hang out with different people. If you go through Sharla's channel, you will see she has done videos with people of different genders and different races. If the Jvlogger girlsquad suddenly ditched Sharla, she would probably still be okay because she interacts with people outside her clique.
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Speaking of pmt, not sure if anyone still cares anymore but she definitely got a boob job, pic related.
It wasn't my intention to make Mira look better, it's just that I don't trust Sharla.. >>310304>Personally I lowkey think they all come here to vent when they're having personal issues with one another.
Yeah definitely, and not only itt. >>310519>Perfect side boob >Perfect round >super smooth skin
She looks like one of those anatomically impossible anime figures. I like her but sometimes she abuses beauty apps.
I remember when everyone was discussing whether or not they were vegan in order to seem trendy.
Taylor eventually said that she was only plant-based after getting a lot of negative comments, but that's why you don't insert 'vegan' into the title of every other video if you aren't actually vegan.
I also doubt that Sharla is completely vegan. A lot of food seems too 'MMMM SO GOOD' for her to pass up when the camera isn't on.
she said she was only gluten sensitive….
but yeah, she jumped on that hipster bandwagon.
she is not even gluten sensitive.
She said no one specific video (not sure if I can find it) that she is intolerant and therefore eats gluten free. I think it was the national azabu haul video.
But in her next video she went out with her boyfriend to eat vegan burger.
>>310651 then she either backed down from that or isnt very consistent. I remember a video where she specifically said, that she was never tested for gluten intolerance but that she just feels bloated from it and therefore is trying to avoid it.
remembered that one wrong it seems, that was about milk. yeah she says she is gluten intolerant, which is bullshit with all the gluten stuff she eats.
vegan rant: 7:23
milk rant: 9:08
gluten intolerant: 10:25
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She's openly told everyone she had a nose job, has she had other body jobs? Not counting whatever she recently went to Korea for, as these image are old. The swell on her hips and ass really do seem like an anime figure's, not sure if it's possible to be natural on such a petite girl.
Yeah she definitely got a boob job, just compare >>310711
The rest of her body looks natural to me, she has a nice body, face and personality but she always has that same boring expression on her face and heavily shops most of her pictures, don't know why if she already looks like this.. >>310711
Kek I remember when she played that card, I was like.. sure Tay rolls eyes
… Just mention some benefits, no need to further explain why or have a big reason for it.
Sigh* they say too much bs sometimes, but well, at least they are trying to eat healthy. Sharla dropped some weight.
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I can attest to the fact that a lot of people I know in Japan were depressed or socially awkward in their home countries. I'll count myself in that shy, awkward bunch. Not only is Japan on the opposite side of the world for most of them(far away from their problems), but they may imagine Japan, with its reputation of politeness and nonconfrontation, will be somewhat more forgiving of their new start. But the new start is only successful if you're ready to change the negative mindset or behaviors that were hindering you back home. Then there is the fact that so many expats take comfort in the foreigner community, but never distance themselves enough to integrate with native Japanese. They look at themselves after a number of years, and even though they made some friends and know Japanese culture/language well, they're still hanging out with mostly foreigners or only their Japanese spouse. They still don't have deeper bonds to Japanese people. They're still an outsider or token gaijin in a group.
Some people end up more lonely and isolated here than they were before.>>310298
Mira can write up a bible, like above, if she feels like it. She can even go a paragraph without misspelling a word or using cringe-worthy slang if she is focused enough. >>310300
It's spelled Oops. Two o's. Mira also spells it every time with two p's, even though it's not pronounced that way… hmm.>>310736
Didn't Taylor unfollow everybody, though? However, it could have something to do with her loyalty to Sharla and somebody here wrote that Sharla never liked Venus.
>>310804>Didn't Taylor unfollow everybody, though?
On instagram? yes, long time ago but I was talking about her twitter, there she follows her friends.
I'm asking because some days ago anons pointed out that Venus isn't following Tay on instagram, so I checked their ig accounts and this is what I found:
>Venus unfollowed everyone on ig except Manaki, Tsuruko and a very few others.
>someone on ig asked Taylor if it was true that Venus stole money from her. Then the comment disappeared.
>Kim Dao first, and then Sharla unfollowed Venus on ig.
>Taylor unfollowed Venus on twitter.
>However, it could have something to do with her loyalty to Sharla
but why now after months of friendship? Anon that makes no sense.
>somebody here wrote that Sharla never liked Venus.
They have a picture together from years ago though, but yeah Sharla was there with Einshine when they made the video making fun of her.
Sharla doesn't like that Russian chick either but Taylor wanted to hang with her and sharla awkwardly tagged along.
I don't think Taylor gives a shit what sharla thinks because she hangs out with who sharla perceives as "lesser" people(Venus, Russian girl, this random California Asian chick recently) all the time
Fuck no, that was clearly an alt account(who the fuck has some religious figure as their insta icon)
My guess is
-rando stirring shit
-margo stalking on alts
But I do have to say it's odd that Taylor unfollowed Venus on twitter right after Venus unfollowed everyone. The chain of events go kind of like this
Venus unfollows everyone(instagram) > Venus follows 6 people(which include Taylor) > Venus unfollows 3 more people(this includes Taylor) > kimchi dao. Sharla unfollow Venus on instagram > Taylor unfollows on twitter
lol at these trouble makers starting rumors.
i wonder why they stopped speaking though, it looked like they had a nice time on vlogs. i guess we'll never know.
Mmmh well she was one of the first Jvloggers and actually made some good videos, but little by little she started to act catty towards other vloggers and can't stand when other white girls in Japan start getting attention, she feels like she's one the "the original Jvloggers" and everybody else is just a try hard or a threat to their channels. >>310866
tay wanted to hang out with Ashiya? Lol when? >>310866
Oh no it's just a weird comment I saw on instagram, a person asked that and said that it was a rumor but then the comments disappeared.
I thought it was a super weird coincidence because it was few days after Venus unfollowed everyone except Manaki and Tsuruko.
I don't think Margo would randomly post just 1 comment and stop right away, when she starts saying shit she doesn't stop and the writing style was different, also troll accounts are usually more persistent, but yeah definitely it was someone's sockpuppet.
I wonder what was that about. >>310871>i wonder why they stopped speaking though
Yes this is another detail that makes me believe that there's something going on between them. But who knows.. I guess time will tell if it was just a coincidence or something really happened.
Ashiya bumped into Taylor during Taylor's vacation with her mom
Last month(?) or so as hiya appeared in Taylor's vlog with sharla tagging along, they went to purikura. I'm on mobile so I can't link the video but Taylor hasn't been uploading much so it should be easy to find
Since we found out how important instagram is to fake vegan(sharla) recently and how insecure Kim dao is over the numbers of her social media accounts(accused melodee of buying followers), instagram is probably their ENTIRE WORLD
The fact Venus didn't follow them back probably struck a coord and they probably had a bitching session that convinced Taylor to unfollow too
I think Tay was supportive of Venus because of her subscribers. And she was under even more attention when Tay started reaching out to her because it was around the time she had just ran away from home.
Tay was leaving very encouraging messages under Venus' videos, and it must have been hard to resist her, being almost all alone in Japan and trying to change her style of videos.
Thanks anon! >>310882>and it must have been hard to resist her
What do you mean with this part?
I mean that being in a foreign country alone for the first time, without parent supervision (even though she IS better off without her mum) can be scary. Although Japanese people are nice, their might not be the warmest, so making friends can be hard. Job wise, she risked not getting her channel back, and it must have been scary risking to lose your only income. And lastly, being free from her mum's control she was trying to change her content to one of a more human, relatable, human being. Long story short: it bet it wasn't the easiest time for Venus, nor the time when she was feeling the most confident.
Not a fan of either of them, these are just my impressions.
I cringed but I never really saw her diet as very weird. The gluten + lactose free trend is very big right now with upper middle class white girls (have to deal with them daily) and they are very skilled at going to places that will cater to them by just throwing cash or making extremely complicated orders.
It's also why she always goes to the same restaurants all the time and why when her boyfriend orders in she always gets something different/cooks separately. It's just the latest diet trend that nutritionists to the rich have also linked to their "feeling sad and depressed" to further sell it.>>310878
Yeah I don't think it was Sharla/Kim who broke off the friendship. Either Taylor or Venus said something to the other which made them feel awkward, or maybe even they stopped because of fan hate? Remember all the comments Taylor got when Venus was in her video? Maybe they thought it would be better to not put their friendship so publicly?
i would agree. it makes a lot of sense. i dont think taylor was really being genuine about their friendship but it was more like a networking thing to her, like it is to almost every other jvlogger.
since venus is no jvlogger it makes no sense for her. she's not even living in tokyo. she probably was looking for real friends, not understanding how fake the jvlogger community in tokyo is.
also i think it's fascinating that all of this happened during the same time mimei's husband ranted about how the fake vegan friends ditch people because they dont like enough pictures on instagram.
Doubt it. Taylor panders to weebs too with the whole "quirky kawaii girl living in Japan". Taylor's also mentions Japan in everything when ever she gets the chance to. "Cafe …IN JAPAN" "Hair salon… IN JAPAN" "TOKYO SUPERMARKET" She literally inserts "Japan/Tokyo" in everything she does, yet never does anything unique to that country/city and only does american themed shit. Don't forget about all the cringey shit she does still do like making a Bell cosplay, fake twerking on camera and shitty skits.
I think the first theory is more accurate about Taylor only seeing Venus as a networking project rather than as a friend. They literally have nothing in common despite Taylor spewed about how "alike they are and similar their past experiences are".
I sorta feel like Taylor may be even a huge bitch off camera, I mean look at who she chooses to surround herself with .. (Kim, Sharla Bii ) Now with the rumours/speculations of her unfollowing two people over not getting enough attention on social media ? I can't help but to think she's probably just a self absorbed fat head who thinks she's better then everyone.
This video was annoying because she presented it as being broad universal advice as if primary school bullies and salty/catty acquaintances or "fake friends" are the worst thing that can happen to you. Out of context of the jvlogger comm, this sounds like general life advice to a 10 year old.
Idk it just makes her seem like she came from a privileged or sheltered background if that's truly traumatizing to her. I understand being hurt over friendships ending but when you're already 30, it's like shouganai?? I really don't see the need for a video.
Should probably mention that Mimei is my fav vlogger out of the bunch but this melodrama is so infantile.
lmao okay I just got caught up with the drama over the last few days
I actually can't believe the fucking milk. I honestly thought Sharla was going to kiss ass and lay low since she almost got exposed via the mira drama.
The foreshadowing was too good. I saw the caps of texts between Sharla and Mira last year and was wary ever since. But I legitimately thought Sharla threw Mira under the bus to save face and keep her clique. Now it seems like Taylor was just the collateral she needed to put herself above the rest.
Basically the timeline I've imagined is like this, correct me i'm wrong though anons
>Mira and Sharla meet at language school (?) about 7 years ago
>They start making yt videos, both huge cunts behind the scenes
>After a few years, the crew starts taking shape (miceala, rachel, mimei)
>The rest of them dislike Mira, Sharla follows suit
>Mira drama occurs, boosts Sharla's viewership
>Drama dies down, Sharla still thriving off the pity points
>Taylor is new girl in town, clings to Sharla for views/networking
>They become queen B's of jvlogging, giving Sharla free range w/ the community
Also something I noticed, Miceala was one of the first to defend Sharla against Mira, even if >>309750
reveals they were all bullies, and she's still clinging to these girls despite her age >>310081
the fact that she still goes out of her way to collab with Sharla makes me think she's also blinded by her desperation for views.
Why would anyone genuinely want to hang around Sharla (who's clearly insufferable behind closed doors) and Taylor who will be ~sassy and sarcastic~ while putting you down. It's actual Mean Girls garbage.
sage for samefg
Sage for my own confusion.
How does >>309750
reveal that they were "bullies"? I don't see that at all. What am I missing?
Nothing to apologize for and not worth the effort to acknowledge..
Makes sense to me.
wow shave the fucking legs ffs!!!
no wonder why Sharla and Micaela were trash talking Ashiya.
Mira is a bit crazy though isnt she? Mentally unstable/cannot tell the truth?
I never followed her but just by skimming her summary page on PULL.
I've literaly just wrote that I can trust she's showing something real ONLY when she's either stuffing her face or being a nerd.
Seriously, where do you buy weed? Or can't you read?
Miranada's story has changed, repeatedly about damn near everything. Even from simple shit like her claim she never reads here or PULL then saying that she HAS to read these sites in her e-beg stream.
Sharla's has been pretty consistent unless you show me specific example of how her story with Miranda changed.
Miranda can't tell the truth even about insignificant things and there is dead solid proof of her sockpuppeting. (Chat logs between her and Kat and Her and Sharla with Miranda admitting to using fake accounts on both).
Is Sharla completely innocent? Most likely not, the truth is usually inbetween the two sides of the story but she is far more credible than Miranda.
People jump to the conclusion that you're Miranda because you have done nothing but offer vague crap with out providing one link, pic, shred of anything to corroborate what you claim. (Just like Miranda does with her sock puppets).
Don't want to be mistaken for Miranda? Provide evidence to back your claims. (saying "there's stuff all over" is not providing evidence. It's making a vague claim.)
So get to it.
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>>311098>>Why are you people so paranoid? Is weed so easily available where you live? Tell me and I'll move there!
I guess living in Japan for 10 years has made you completely naive to the effects of Marijuana, Sharla
She did. In one of the screens she wrote to Sharla that Rachel had blocked her fake account.
Then you have the typos.
Not hard proof? Watch har response video. An innocent person would show proof of her innocence, and would probably a tiny bit angrier than she looked like.
TOP KEK xD Srsly.
But hey, we must be smoking, crazy bitches, right Sharla?
She was trash talking people, I do remember. A guy that she called fat (which is not nice at all) and a russian girl, which she called prostitute, i believe? Not saying she actually was, she was calling her names, I think.
Those things are not nice at all. But she wasn't friends with them, right? So she wasn't fake to them. She was bitching about them with her firend.
I mean, if they were her firends or she was hanging out with them, show me and I'll gladly call har fake.
Nope, I'm very well aware of the effects of marijuana. Also, I'm not Sharla. I've been accused both of being her and Mira since yesterday… which makes no sense. Hence my questioning your paranoia levels.
Not that I can prove I'm neither of them, but my grammar is rather good and I basically called Sharla an overeating nerd a few posts up. So… who's your dealer, people?
>Sharla's has been pretty consistent unless you show me specific example of how her story with Miranda changed.
"Mira released my address online, I am getting threats" 3 years later "Mira posted my boyfriends picture online"
"I want to keep negative people out of my life" 3 years later "mimei wont like my instagram posts enough she is a fake friend".
"I have to move lots because stalkers just show up at my house" months later ~~still at same house~~
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In another screen cap Sharla even said she'd make a fake account herself to prove that they weren't hanging out with another vlogger.. because apparently views and reputation is so important to her that she'll try to push out those that she deems unworthy. This is proof that she regularly shit talks other vloggers to keep them away from her circle of ~success~.
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This is sharla at work trying to manipulate Rachel. Speaking in the exact same manner she spoke to Mira, except the person she's trash talking this time is Mira herself.
Sharla tried to rid herself of accountability with her relationship to Mira, but as you can see by the evidence she's always been an immature shit stirrer.
Is that from Mira's phone? I honestly can't trust that girl… But let's say I do, for a moment. It could be she was trying to make Mira take action against that russian girl (Aisha?) while she played safe.
Again, I admit she is bitchy about people that she finds… bothering? I don't know exactly. But that's not being fake, that's being a bitch. Aisha wasn't her friend, was she?
Mira made an account to sabotage Rachel, that at the time she was in contact with and in good relations with. That's being fake, and fucked up too.
Maybe I'm phrasing this wrong, I don't know. I'm not whiteknighting anyone.
I remember that part about Mimei. But that's not shit talking. She was complaining about something a friend did and she was mad about it. She didn't call Mimei names like she did with that guy or Aisha.
I honestly don't see where the shit talk is in there, with Mimei, but it might be me.
Also, you all never ever shit talk about people you don't like? I thought this board was about that, basically.
I found some.>>>/pt/183278
They start from post
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Right, it's totally fine to be starved for e-fame to the point where you're prepared to betray your friend circle or cling to others who are famous in a heartbeat while running your mouth about all the hypocritical views you have on people.
She's cool, anon.
As Shown here >>309220
and here >>309224
. Mira deleted bits from her side of the conversation to make herself look "innocent".
Which makes everything "soursed" (spelled like Mira spells it) suspect as she has already show she will alter things to try and make herself look better.
i honestly wonder if sharla is a legit sociopath/psychopath
i cant imagine any of the other big jvloggers (abroadinjapan, rachel etc) acting like her to keep others down
and her behaviour seems just so fake/scripted, from the way she talks/laughs etc.
As said in >>311116
Where is that? Where are the screen shots? Prove it, we will not take your word for it Miranda.
I think this also goes to show how long Mimei has been ticking off Sharla's nerves. Now that they've mostly all surpassed Mimei's level of subs and general popularity. She had no problem isolating her from the group and making stupid excuses about instagram likes/comments being the reason Mimei wasn't enough of a 'real friend'.
I mean, we don't know if instagram is the full truth yet but doesn't seem like much else happened.>>311167
Just because Sharla is full of shit doesn't mean anyone thinks Mira is innocent. They're both liars but I can still kek at those caps even if Mira's responses are missing.
Just to help you out anon.
There was a legitimate interview/article where Sharla claimed she's had to move house every 3 months due to stalkers. Farmers pointed out that she obviously does not move that frequently and how long she's stayed in each apartment etc.
The other anon who's accusing you of being Mira seems to have missed out on a few threads. I had a reference point for every example you mentioned. The backtracking ITT is unreal.
Funny you should use the Mira files, because the entire beginning is Miranda and Kat talking about Miranda using her Pic for a sockpuppet account (That you claim the Sharla txt were the only "sourse")
Posting a private pic of a boyfriend is posting private information. And it shows that Miranda actually did that. You disproved your own point.>>311179
And the pic, prove that they are from 3 years apart. That is not proof of anything.
That pic is weak. The only thing similar is the curtains, which don't stay with the apartment. The tenet usually hangs the ones they want.
This is some sad reaching here Mira
I'm suggesting that you read all the previous thread on here and PULL.
I'm assuming the vast majority of posters here have been following the drama for the last few years, if not you have catching up to do. Simple.
Why do you expect to be spoon fed?
Are you stupid? No one doubted the article, where is the proof that she doesn't move?
Because Taylor's a fucking pussy and would never own up to being an asshole if she was, and Sharla's a spineless cunt who rather someone else take the fall like Bii who jumped in.
Why not leave it to sound like it wad Bii who had the beef with them and not Sharla and Taylor. Besides Mimei was both of their friends for so long she probably has shit loads of dirt on both Taylor and Sharla so why would they want to tick off the bomb.
Imagine if Mimei exposed dirty doings of Sharla's that nobody knew of, or exposed that it is 100% fact that Taylor had cheek fillers ? That would fuck up their image.
HER FUCKING VIDEOS YOU MORON.
Someone put this kid in time out.
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dude. we already know for certain taylor 100% had cheek fillers. we dont need anyone to tell us. just look at this bloated balloon face.
Since when is not reading past threads a viable argument to claim there's no proof?
Are you new here? We expect you to do your homework. Why would we re-post everything thread by thread.
Taylor cares. Of course everyone here knows, but her fans are in denial and believe her when she says she's had nothing done.
Though I do find it odd that now Farmers think its 100% confirmed, when in the Taylor thread some of yall were going loopy comparing her to J-Law. ( Unless that was Tay and the Jvloggers coming to argue her case.)
i know she had them done because myself and many of my friends have also had them done. once you have had them done yourself you can spot the facial changes that occur in other people when they overdo it.
and for the people who dont know how the face changes after youve had fillers i think its obvious she looks completely different to how she looked before she became a "dolly".
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yea a few of my friends got addicted and have destroyed their natural beauty. of course i would never tell them to their face but its obvious that the people who overdo it have body dysmorphia. i just hope i never reach that point…..
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Taylor has some deeply rooted issues with her face. She's obsessively concealing it with hair or overdoing it with fillers.
Though, she looks like she's been toning down recently … Or editing it more.
Same. Once you've had it done you know where to look for the signs of contouring, or attempts at contouring. Especially under the eyes when smiling.
For Taylor it's especially noticable from the side and not front-on. She's making most of her contouring decisions with the doctor based on how she looks straight on as opposed to all around.
She should just admit she has things done here and there, and give big sister advice to her viewers. She already idolizes Kylie and the Kardashians, her fans would be supportive, because it's her body and her choice.
Not to white knight, but I'm actually more surprised by how much Taylor is getting wrecked despite there not being any concrete evidence of her doing anything. Especially on PULL where people just seem to hate her.
I mean I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor didn't like Mimei because Mimei has been trash talking her. I would have dropped Mimei as a friend the moment she starting sneaking in little jabs towards me.
And there is literally nothing to go on with Taylor and Venus's relationship besides the social media unfollows. And honestly, people unfollow for a variety of reasons, so it doesn't mean anything until you have the full context of the situation.
I know that all we can do is speculate, but people are really starting to get witch hunty now without much to go off of. At least the reason why Sharla is a bitch and not to be trusted is clear as day.
me? who do you think I am?
all I'm saying is that she MUST have NEW shitty things right now. I personally think her life is crap and there is a lot more crappy things about her than old dramma. I've been following other youtubers drama since forever and all of them manage to create more. Sharla is so boring now that even her "haters" became boring as well . I would have love to know about her way before you know, when she was promising.
Has taylor had her nose done? it always looks more downward-angled in these really old photos and upward-angled in her videos
The cheeks are too much, but whatever she's done with her chin/lips/nose is working for her though
I find her to be genuinely creepy. I know a lot of farmers are up her ass in her thread. But I get such weird vibes from her. I don't usually bitch about vloggers without pinpointing why I dislike them but I just feel so uncomfortable when watching her vlogs.
Although, as this thread shows, anyone who's "close friends" with Sharla is pretty fishy. Taylor will often be jokingly petty (her sense of humor involves putting other people down) and now that we know Sharla is legitimately like that behind closed doors.. well.
I wouldn't say everyone that hangs with Sharla is guilty by association, but I definitely don't think Taylor is in any way innocent when it comes to ~mean girl high school~ mentality bullshit.
I don't think the followed was what she was after
She collabed with some random American Asian chick the other day
i suspect she has also had botox on her jaw. i had a friend who had a square jaw like hers and got some botox done to make it more "v-line". im not 100% sure with taylor though but i think her jaw shape did look like it changed for a while.>>311279
yes fillers need to be topped up every so often. they are naturally absorbed by the body eventually.
to me she just seems like an awkward rich girl that probably didn't have many friends growing up.
I wouldn't say I'm up her ass, but I like her and I don't understand the hate she gets.
Krist Soup? She has half a million subscribers on her main channel and another 100k on her new vlog channel.
That's not exactly a random nobody, it's still more exposure for Tay.
Their followers don't overlap though, they're both very different
And tbh 500k in the YouTube world isn't a lot, so soup chan is kind of coming out of no where. Maybe they're bonding over coming from rich families? Idk
>>311269>people unfollow for a variety of reasons
There is literally only one reason you unfollow someone in this specific circle. It's to passively say you're not friends or in agreement with them.>>311279
Depending on where they are, you can wait for them to absorb or have something injected to dissipate them. Better to just let it absorb, it won't take long.>>311285
Eh she has her mother and sister and cousins, she's not alone really. She was just surrounded by normalfags in suburbia and wanted a more exotic life.
I've read them, I can't find the claims you you make. Since they're so easy to find, as you claim, shouldn't be any trouble for you to find.
Unless you don't know where they are.
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Sure, but she did just comment this on her latest video. She could be lying, but it looks like they still talk.
Alright i'll try to help, you're clearly confused.
I am the anon you are currently replying to. However, I am not the same anon that originally made some statements that you disagreed with and wanted proof for?
What exactly can I find for you that will stop you from trying to constantly derail the thread?
Sage because this is getting old
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All this drama and realization these bitches are all two faced really made me miss her.
The "proof" that Sharla didn't relocate beyond the shitty pic that doesn't show anything.
The screen shots claiming to show her:
"mimei wont like my instagram posts enough she is a fake friend". (Her saying it, not third hand from somoen else husband.
Well, this will kill Miranda's hope of the "Sharla is evil" attempt to squeeze back in for views:
(Stolen from PULL)
Amadofu/Toph spilled some tea over on his Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/videos/141907328
Here's some keynotes and some approximate time stamps
I apologize now for the huge and messy post but I know some people will prefer not to watch the video
From the 7 minute mark
The drama has been "in the making" for a long time, nearly a year
The people in Japan that know whats happened have been expecting this to come
Toph's goal wasn't to "jump in" to the drama but to not let Mimei play the victim and let people know she isn't guiltless
Toph doesn't care who side you pick
His friends are not free of guilt either, no one is totally guilt free but Mimei is not the victim she claims to be
Mimei is one of the nastiest people he ever met
At the 10 minute mark
He says it's OK to like who you like on YouTube, it's not wrong to enjoy them
But be aware of who they actually are
Mimei puts on a 100% positive persona and it's a red flag for suspicion
Take everything someone does with a pinch of salt and have realistic expectations
No one is 100% nice, everyone does nasty things
People script and edit their videos on YouTube so it's easy to be fake
He wasn't trying to stir the pot but it was wrong for Mimei to play the victim when everyone involved is a villian in some way
Toph admits he's a bitch and says that it's better to just straight out admit the fact and not be fake
At the 13 minute mark
Toph admits he's was pretty messy on Twitter, but he's a messy person
Another issue with the YouTube community is the fear of not being able to say what you want out of fear of repercussion
Toph felt comfortable saying things on Twitter because YouTube is not his job so he wouldn't feel the impact (unlike Sharla or Taylor who have a bigger audience)
He lost 50+ subscribers but he doesn't care, he prefers Twitch now anyway and YouTube is just a hobby
He mentions that haters can't "threaten to destroy my YouTube channel" which sounds like a jab at what Duncan has apparently said
At the 15 minute mark he talks about the YouTube community, it's hard for me to type out but amusing
It sounds a little bit like a reach to PULL because of speculation
"If you're going to come for people, come correct bitch"
He has witnessed some of the drama in person
From the 17:50 minute mark
"It's a lot of passive aggressive-ness, a lot of finger pointing and a lot of playing the victim"
"It's done by people who pretend to be super nice even though they shade people all the time in their videos, they shade people on twitter"
"But people still think that they're the nicest person ever"
When he met Mimei in person a long time before any of the drama and he had no reason to think poorly of them, his first impression of Mimei was that she was "cold, pompos and rude"
So his opinion of Mimei is not negative because of the drama involving his friends, it's from his own experience with meeting Mimei
Mimei talked crap about Toph behind his back after only meeting him twice and Toph was nothing but nice to her
At the 19:40 minute mark
Toph reads a comment in the chat about different drama that involves death threats to those involved
He says there is similar things happening in this community of drama, they're not death threats but are pretty big and aggressive threats (possibly from Duncan)
At the 20:50 minute mark
He has noticed some comments on the video of people not buying Mimei's guilt, he admits it's better to say everyone is mean rather than one side is good and one side is bad
Kek that Toph
seems to be like the kind of person who comes here to trash talk the community tbh
tbh, i always liked them. their videos were calm and like a breath of fresh air after all the "WTF JAPAN LOVE HOTELS WEIRD CANDY" videos with all the same time-lapse sequences. i felt kinda bad after reading here that they also were kind of shady in the past. >>311262
holy shit i never actually followed taylor and never saw her "before" photo. WTF. and here i was thinking that her face was too ~~kawaii~~sugoi to be real. seems that it wasn't. wow.
Why are any of these bitches friends if all they do is fucking fight and throw shade ?
Fucking petty piss babies.
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I can barely make sense of all this, sounds like a lot of nothing tbh.
ALSO like to add :
>Proud to be a bitch and I'm upfront> I'm not scared
- doesn't even say what happened
- Doesn't even name drop except for Mimei
-Vague explanation that once again only shits on Mimei.
He should spill the tea or stfu.
Well, even if he is not scared of losing subscribers (if you believe it) maybe he's scared of losing his friends in the clique?
I mean, he just said they're all horrible, but maybe he does like to be with them?
I don't know… also, if it's a cat fight there's little tea to be spilled, might be all he said/she said, sassyness, bitterness etc…
PDR SAN,THOUGH! SPILL THE TEA.
What could he have to threaten them? They actually trusted Mimei enough to revel secrets to her?
If thats all there was, is just some he said/she said bullshit, than why bother saying anything about it and ending it on that note.
To me this would make Mimei neither wrong or right.. She was bullied, but was also a bully herself. She's both the victim and offender.
Also, this makes me wonder if this is what Taylor has really been crying about a lot lately ? She mentioned she bursted into tears in the car with her bf because "sometimes Youtube tires her".. ( Bullshit if you ask me ) She's been having more "shitty/sobby" days then usual.
I don't really watch her videos much. Has she been crying on camera or just saying she cried?
She might be sad about this, or maybe she's riding the pity train.
this actually makes me sad. was it proved by admins? in any way, damn, you really can't trust anyone on youtube. >Nice to see her back to her old ways
for a second there i thought you meant that she came back online which made me check twitter and youtube lol
you sound like bii or kim or whoever from the jvlogger community.
they are all passive aggressive cunts with a victim complex.
If he doesn't care what side you choose why not spill the beans on the others too?
Clearly, he wants whoever to be against mimei, if everyone's a messy he should just straight out admit the facts
The one skit she made? You mean. The friends skit had nothing to do with Mimei. I'm telling you, Taylor doesn't have the intellectual capability to throw shade subtly.
Toph seems to understand that as an adult, in the dissolution of relationships no one is blameless. I don't think he was confirming anything specifically so don't jump to conclusions. He just meant that youtubers script to show their best face to world, which should honestly be obvious to anyone with critical reasoning ability.
She hasn't cried on camera, but has mentioned a few times as of lately about feeling down or tired or crying. If its the drama thats bringing her down I wonder what it is they say to her to make her feel bummed.
Wouldn't put it past Sharla to make sly remarks to Taylor to make herself feel better about being so damn dumpy. Though, I think we all have those friends who nitpick " your lipstick is uneven, you look bloated, that looks ugly on you.. what? I'm just trying to help. " ..
sharla feels probably threatened by venus.
venus has way more subs. if she really started to vlog daily she would be the most successful jvlogger in japan and push sharla off her throne.
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yeah im so ridiculous, how can i ever think she milks that for view, smh
i mean she never does clickbait titles and thumbnails like omg. >>311419>She mentioned she bursted into tears
also yeah because "youtube sucks big time" isnt a titles that draws positive attention to her channel
No doubt that frumpy cow feels threatened. She can't even play nice with her own friends because she's that insecure. It probably strokes her ego to read the Taylor thread on pull ( except for when they refer to her as a leech. ) as Taylor seems to be her main competition.
Quite honestly though, I enjoy Venus' mini vloggs as they're short, simple and have zero whine in them. If she worked on it a bit and got a stabilizer so it wasn't too shaky she'd be good to go.