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>What is Breadtube and the leftist sphere?A new leftist movement aiming to address, fight, and destroy the growing presence of fascism in the USA. AKA, breadtube is keyboard warriors making response videos to anti-SJW’s and the leftist sphere is a place that preaches diversity while all their biggest players are White, TIMs or upper class minroties
>General summary of their beliefs- They are not liberals. Liberals believe first and foremost on changing the system from the inside while Leftists want to destroy it.
-They have slap fights over the intricacies of their political beliefs every other wednesday. The only thing uniting them is a vague dislike of capitalism.
>Breadtube: The big players only. Other online personalities exist, but these are the ones pulling the shots. Famous 'Breadtubers' include Contrapoints, Philosophy Tube, Hbomberguy, Xiran Jay Zhao and Shaun.
>recap from the previous thread>Vaush being his usual misogynist self >>1372915>Hontra severely misunderstands the russian and chinese revolutions >>1373800>to the surprise of nobody Vaush turns out to be a rich kid >>1394444>Lindsay Ellis quit YouTube >>1403035 >>1403168>Philosophytroon got FFS >>1425011>Shawn made a nearly 2 hour long video about how harry potter was neo-liberal fascist literature >Mina Le is doing Magazine shoots now >>1588039>Jenny Nicholson defends troons >>1587043>xiran jay zhao's self insert fic is being made into a film >>1655560>Sarah Z is engaged now >>1681984 No. 1697183
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>>1696254we can't say what his parents were like, but they sure as hell didn't deserve to have a child like vaush
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>>1696254all these breadtubers come from privileged background tbh. They have no reason to be as gross, useless and degenerate as they are but they always are. Should be a study on it. Haasan looks like a handsome stick of meatloaf, and a degn weirdo. It's almost as if all the white guys get bored with their lives and want to fuck it up or make themselves
victims.
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>>1697211I mean you can definitely see that vaush does share a similar features to his parents, but he's what happens when you don't leave the basement for years, play vidya 24/7, cooming non-stop, not exercising and just behave like a living degenerate parasite
picrel is his when he was in his 40's and vaush right now(not even 30)
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>>1696254he thinks he's smarter then other people because he has a bachelor's in sociology and uses that as some kind of inherent merit regardless what the subject he's debating is, he's not even like independently learning about actual political works, but literally thinks that his one single bachelor's in sociology is what gives him more authority, It's really weird that someone would brag about having a bachelor's because to most people it's the basic bitch degree, anyone who isn't a complete retard can earn a bachelor´s.
Anyway, the guy is just a weirdo. Even setting the implied pedo shit aside, he alleges to be a Marxist who does the stereotyping spiel about how hoarding wealth for minimal effort is bad, while he himself keeps raking in patreon money for not really doing anything. He's very extractive himself, so it's just really weird to see him spout this communist revolution nonsense, considering he's exactly the type of person who would suffer after a communist revolution. What do people like that think they would be doing under a communist government? Because what they do now, would at best be seen as an irrelevance not worth compensation, and at worst so dangerous it would earn them political imprisonment.
Anyone who has watched this guy in a debate knows he can't argue for shit if the opponent isn't a total retard, like he got fucking owned by Stefan Molyneux of all people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_m-snVrJsk No. 1699085
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>>1699026The resemblance is uncanny
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>>1389162>Jenny Nicholson attends theme parkholy shit, how did you call that?
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>>1700230>tfw the next video she does is about the holocaustoh no…
No. 1702923
>>1702845>3hrs longI still have no idea why breatubers have to stretch at most, a 15-20 minute video saying the most basic shit: "This guy is a liar a bloo bloo"
The sheer fucking autism on display.
No. 1702959
>>1702923Enagement/alogrithm reasons.
But I think that it ended up that way because people are putting these sorts of videos on as background noise while they do something else. In that case, a long runtime is a draw because you don't want to be stopping the thing that you're actually doing to pick a new background video every 10 minutes. That the content is padded to hell also doesn't matter, the videos don't need to be engaging in the same way a movie would be, in fact it's better if they're mindless and make simple repetitive points as to not be too distracting from your real task, and so if you weren't paying attention for a while you can still follow the jist of the video.
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I shouldn't he surprised coming from Vaush but like tf??? "Breeders" wow
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Accidentally posted this in the old thread. Contra liked this tweet. Thoughts?
No. 1704509
>>1704284Reminder that Vaush would rather fuck a hideous moid LARPing as a woman over an actual woman
Reminder that his sexual degeneracy is the actual core of his political beliefs
Reminder that this fat faggot and his retarded fans center troons in their universe
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Hbomberguy is clearly transitioning into a boiled egg.
Also how the fuck was this worth his biannual re-emergence? The more people hand over patreon bucks for these people to sit around stoned for months on end, the worse their work becomes.
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Lmao, Reddit leftoids shitting on the obese pedophilic manchild Vaush for, among other things, “transphobia”
Why would Reddit anarcho-troons lie this way? Vaush is one of the notable troon lovers of reddit, more willing to fuck a dude with tits than his actual mommy mcbangmaid gf who takes care of all his needs, his stream constantly panders to and defends troons, why are these fags trying to eat their own?
Better yet, why are troons becoming like a blackhole the anticapitalist left puts at the center of their universe despite troons being living embodiments of neoliberal hyperindividualism?
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potentially old or not as milky as I think it is, but I stumbled upon these comments of Sarah Z under this youtuber named Ella Grant.
For those who don't know, here's a little ella grant recap:
>Troon wannabe tradthot who likes to make conservative "anti-sjw" content
>friends with the likes of robby white (blaire), Kalvin Garrah and "Miss London"
>Made a "women can't take criticism" gamergate video
>assumes a "vintage" aesthetic as an appeal to traditional values, and genuinely talks about how he's "not like other trannies"
>attended the women's march and mocked women there for fighting for reproductive healthcare.
Sarah Z has been following him for awhile, and even makes positive comments under videos that are blatantly anti-leftist. Here's a snip of some of her comments that I could find. The Sarah's comments are mild but in the videos themselves, Grant will literally be casually making fun of "SJWs" aka the very people Sarah surrounds herself with. Both Sarah Z and Grant were mutuals on twitter but Sarah's twitter is gone now so there's no proof for now.
This grant person hasn't been active for awhile and made a "im sowwy i changed my political ways" goodbye video last year, but Sarah's comments range from 1-4 years, which isn't that long ago to claim that she had some kind of anti-sjw phase or something.
No. 1706951
>>1704509Implying he has anything to choose from (assuming unpaid basis) except hideous larping men. He's even more revolting than Peter Coffin, and that's saying something.
Mid leftoid pickmes will sometimes pretend to simp for him but none of them would actually fuck him.
No. 1707107
>>1704526>Embodiment of neoliberal hyperindividualismloved the way you put this nonna. The essentialization of our BODIES to be sculpted into what we "think" we should be is the most late stage dystopian future outcome i can possibly think of. In fact, being anti-surgery and self mutilation fits in perfectly with their
own arguments of "gender and sex are constructs." If gender and sex are constructs, then why would you physically connect those concepts by altering your perfectly healthy body?? isn't that what the so-called binary does?
if being a girl doesn't mean having tits and a vagina than why are you desperately trying to tie them together??
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rare based take coming from big joel
No. 1707871
>>1707389>>1706886There's something to be said for how much trans stuff is like a beard for closet conservatives. You can get away with so much shit because people assume if you buy into the fringe of the fringe you must be unimpeachable on all the mundane stuff.
Like you got willy wonka taking shots at socialized medicine because it actually managed to prioritize people with real problems over a deluded aristocrat and somehow this is supposed to be progressive.
No. 1708685
>>1707738Hunger Games and Twilight were a phenomenon. It would be stupid of a studio to not jump on it. Divergent was grabbed because they wanted to absorb as many YA dystopian IPs as possible.
No one is jumping out of the streets, making fan art, or any kind of anything over Iron Widow
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>>1707585isn’t she that one that said china and japan were totally lgbt friendly for diddling kids before those pesky prude colonizers came along? i can’t imagine what amazing takes and spins on history she put in her book
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>>1711030>>1711159I think she overcompensates(probably was made fun off for her having an accent when was young) but yeah she does also seem autistic
No. 1711455
>>1711451I didn't want to say it but yeah, her voice and face is why I think she went non binary. You know ugly motherfuckers love to do that.
Though she's unmistakably a woman and doesn't even attempt to dress androgynous or colorful (as the non binaries like to do).
No. 1711463
>>1707389i keep getting this on my youtube homepage despite never engaging with him ugh.
he's right that the nhs healthcare system is broken but thats not bc it isn't bending itself over to cater to trannies.
this is a man who could easily afford private healthcare, there's plenty of people with genuine life threatening health problems that aren't so lucky and rely on the nhs… but ofc people only care bc hes talking about his tranny problems
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>>1711455>Though she's unmistakably a woman and doesn't even attempt to dress androgynous or colorful (as the non binaries like to do).what do you, she's on the entire spectrum
No. 1712219
>>1711463Oh the video is even worse than that, anyone who sits through the marathon of narc cringe and second rate acting is rewarded with being told that the solution isn't to merely improve funding and resourcing so people don't have to wait so long (which would benefit everyone) but to let trans people skip diagnosis and just order in the treatments they want. He admits that trans people lie to get what they want, especially about gender dysphoria and that's the doctors' fault, so just hand over the hormones and slice 'em up on demand, on taxpayer money.
That's sandwiched in after a long time of unnecessary detail on how many emails he sent to his doctor, and a humblebrag at the end about his play, so lots of the comments are by people getting only halfway and assuming their bourgeois fave is arguing for better funding and resourcing, talking about their legitimate health problems, not realising that Oliver has no interest in fixing that for him. He makes the claim that cis people can just access whatever treatments they want on demand, as if we all don't wait forever for diagnoses and referrals.
With the influence he's building up he is poised to do real damage to the NHS if people support him without paying attention to what he is actually about.
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>>1707585>>1712258>>1708884one thing that you all might not seem to grasp is the fact that all these series mentioned were written and released before YA twitter and booktok were a thing, while Iron WIdow might be medicore at best, Xiran's large social media presence allowed her book to chart high on bestselling lists(she actually wrote a twitter thread about how her twitter presence is what drove the success of her novel)
https://tinyletter.com/misshelved/letters/did-twitter-break-ya-misshelved-6this is a long essay detailed about this phenomena, where not just the fans but the authors themselves seek to pull the others down in the hope that they or their favorite author rises, just posting what I feel are some of the most essential parts
>First, the YA publishing industry made its target audience—its readers, its bloggers, its BookTubers and Bookstagrammers—part of its professional network. Although genres like romance had long-standing industry associations such as the Romance Writers of America to highlight and promote the genre, and speculative fiction had strong websites and fan awards that fans could rely on for industry news, YA had no such thing. In lieu of trade organizations and long-established magazines, publicists began to use Twitter to reach out to YA’s target audience directly—to everyone from experienced bloggers with established readerships to brand-new sites with only a few posts and regular readers. In doing so, they invited readers into industry conversations as equals, despite how little these readers actually knew about the inner workings of publishing.>Second, the YA publishing industry decided that Twitter was an essential platform for YA writers. Put simply, YA authors needed to be active on Twitter. Publicists did not have the budget to market most YA books on a huge scale, so instead, they marketed access to YA authors: Meet your favorite YA authors at a convention! Meet them at a book festival! But most importantly, follow them on Twitter, where you can read everything about their new book and everything they’ve ever thought and buy buy buy buy buy.
>The term “parasocial relationship” gets thrown around a lot lately.>These days, as social media has become so prevalent, the definition of parasocial relationships has expanded—and so do the number of figures it applies to. As Sadhbh O'Sullivan writes:>“The potential to form parasocial relationships is in the DNA of sites like Twitter, Instagram and YouTube. You become a ‘follower’ or a ‘subscriber’ of someone who then shares their thoughts and talks apparently directly to you as an individual ("hey guys!"). You can even reply, with the possibility of your reply being reciprocated (though it likely won’t be). You are given access to people like never before and the number of personalities you can look up to and engage with is endless. In fact, everyone who uses social media is somewhat encouraged to behave as a public figure. Unless you limit your followers, you present yourself and speak to an invisible audience, who you won’t always know or engage with directly.”
>The Misshelved logo, a green bookcase in the shape of an M with yellow and green books on it, as well as a dragon and a plant.Because social media inherently supports the development of parasocial relationships, it’s not surprising that Twitter users often find themselves navigating them. Within the publishing industry, the “performer” with whom the average reader interacts is usually an author, editor or literary agent.>Unlike in the 1950s, when parasocial relationships were first defined, the average audience member now has regular access to the performers—and unlike in the early days of the internet, their interactions do not take place in closed forums. Twitter is not a small community with well-established social rules, whether explicitly stated or implicitly understood. It “has morphed into not only one of the largest social media platforms, but an outlet for bots, cyber abuse [and] breaking news” to which anybody and everybody has access—and where everything feels personal.>This leads to frequent context collapse, Context collapse is what happens when the scale of interaction shifts to “the infinite audience possible online as opposed to the limited groups a person normally interacts with face to face. In a limited group, a person is constantly adjusting their tone and presentation of self to fit into the social context. In a situation of context collapse, this becomes impossible.”>Individual users cannot be responsible for predicting how every single person will react to, interpret and interact with their social media posts. They cannot telepathically know what is unfolding at all times. They can only do their best, within the limits of human capability. But because of the scale of social media, and because of context collapse, tweets often reach people who do not understand their social presentation—no matter how well-intentioned.>This isn’t to say that involving readers in professional industry conversations doesn’t lead to positive outcomes and social good, nor is it to say that Twitter hasn’t been the catalyst to some of publishing’s most revolutionary moves. We Need Diverse Books, for instance, began on Twitter in 2014 as a push for more inclusive representation in children’s and YA literature. Since then, it has become a grassroots movement and a nonprofit organization that funds grants for marginalized writers, publishing internships and literary awards.>But Twitter’s algorithm does not reward the good—at least, not anymore. It does not boost nuance. Twitter taps into our natural reward-based learning process by elevating topics that receive the most retweets and responses … and the algorithm values posts that generate that response the fastest. As Matthew Shaer put it, “Joy moves faster than sadness or disgust, but nothing is speedier than rage.”
>What does bookish rage look like?>Culturally, we hold books in a separate, almost sacred space, apart from other forms of mass media. We believe that reading is good for us: It builds empathy, helps us overcome “compassion fatigue” and positively rewires the brain. Beyond that, people elevate books, viewing them as something to honor, something to value. The bookselling industry believes this so intensely that it undervalues its workers. Librarians suffer the same fate. Bloggers and Bookstagrammers and BookTubers are treated like they’re doing something noble in their attempts to highlight the works of literature they feel most passionate about—or, at least, that’s how it feels.>Parasocial relationships combined with the above ideology mean that every interaction on Twitter can feel personal, to the extent that any discomfort or disagreement feels like an attack on the recipient.>Now add in the permanent-record status of the internet. Once you say something online—no matter what it is—it exists forever. Even if you have made a mistake and apologized for it. Even if your opinion has changed. Even if you have learned better.>The end result of all this is that YA publishing professionals must enact performances of perfection online: They must be constantly accessible (as demanded by the needs of their own marketing), while responding to everything that is happening all of the time (as demanded by their audience).>At first, the algorithm and community interaction feels good. Users rally around stories and get excited for new ideas. Books that editors and authors worked hard on sometimes get buzzed about in a way that feels immediately validating—hey, maybe this is why marketing expects them to be on Twitter! Public performances of allyship receive warm responses.>But it’s not teenagers, the target demographic of young adult literature, that authors and editors hear from on Twitter. There are very few teens involved in these conversations. It is adults. It is booksellers trying to keep up with their favorite authors, and librarians coming up with storytime ideas, and adult readers who understand the boundaries of social media and just want to make sure they don’t miss a new release from their favorite writers.>They're also hearing from the reader who plucks single lines out of context and declares that they're offensive, then demands that the author agree that they're offensive, then further demands that they be changed in future printings, even if the point of the line in context is that a character is saying something the reader is supposed to disagree with. They’re hearing from the person who reviews 50 books a year on Goodreads and has some strong opinions on how most bisexual representation is problematic if the couple isn’t in a sapphic or gay relationship. From the blogger whose website is only a few months old and who, despite being a person of color themselves, dimisses authors of color because they write for white people, not “authentically.”>This scrutiny and demand for perfection is infinitely higher for marginalized authors, who are often the target of the most critical segments of their own reader communities. Black authors must be perfect representations of Blackness despite the wide range of Black experiences. Queer authors must be out of the closet, in a neatly labeled box, for their queer representation to even be considered acceptable.>There is no greater example of this than the story of the #ownvoices hashtag, which was originally created by author Corinne Duyvis to allow readers to know whether a writer from a marginalized background was writing something that reflected their own experiences. The term had to be officially abandoned by We Need Diverse Books five years after its creation because of how intensely the notion of perfect representation had been weaponized—both by readers who didn’t consider representations authentic enough to earn the label, and by readers who dismissed as problematic any representation that wasn’t explicitly labeled ownvoices by its author.>Relying on Twitter to shape a culture like YA publishing inevitably leads to a moment where the most vulnerable participants in that industry will break. Either they become part of the rage machine, or the rage machine turns on them.
>So what happens to publishing professionals when readers are invited to shape their industry as if they know everything happening behind the scenes? What happens when access to editors or authors is marketed alongside the books they work on? What happens when access to these people occurs on a platform that rewards rage?>They break.>Within the YA community online, what unfolds is intensified by the nature of the virtual space that community carved out for itself, a space where parasocial relationships are treated with respect, where adult readers are invited into professional spaces, and where authors and other industry professionals must interact with those readers as mandated by the expectations of the age category.>There is the minor impact, which affects what books we see: Since Twitter is the water cooler of the publishing industry, the adults who converse there affect what gets published just as much as actual sales figures do. The illusion of buzz sinks into the minds of editors and marketers, which is part of why YA books are now so heavily marketed to adults, because adults are the ones creating the buzz. Adults are who editors see tweet about the books they most want to read or see published. The zeitgeist of YA is shaped not by the teenagers it is intended for, but the adults who claim it for themselves.>Then there is the major impact, which heavily affects the minds of those working in YA publishing. Because non-professional adult readers have been invited into the space, within the YA conversation, all opinions hold equal weight. All criticism is valid. All accusations are held to be factual. No matter what they are.>Author Kacen Callender wrote a brilliant examination of the dehumanization of authors on social media as part of their decision to step back from the more public elements of their role. I recommend reading the whole piece. In it, they observe that “there’s an idea that authors and novelists have power and platforms, but there’s a key narrative being overlooked in the relationship between novelist and reader: authors depend on readers to buy our books for our livelihoods. There’s immediately a power dynamic placed between author and reader where we depend on pleasing the reader, many times to the point of our dehumanization.”>This power dynamic isn’t inherent to the digital space. It depends on the popularity of the author, and the readers they interact with, and the communities through which they interact.>Within the space of the YA community, however, it is almost certainly present.>Momentary scandals that other segments of publishing would dismiss—if they even registered on their radars at all!—are taken seriously by YA professionals. There are a thousand varying examples of this. The two most popular, however, seem to be the “out-of-context quotation” and the “guilt by association.”>In the first example, a line from a book is posted out of context and shared as a flattened reflection of a book’s worth or an author’s personal beliefs. The community expects that the line must be owned and apologized for, behaviors that validate the initial criticism of the book. Authors who don’t do this are accused of not caring or of not being involved in the conversation—even when, if read within context, the same line would firmly put the author on the same side as the readership in terms of what they believe is good.>In the second example, somebody is criticized for problematic representation in their book. The conversation around it may start as fair and earnest, but it expands quickly, swallowing up everybody who has ever interacted with that author or that book. Other authors must have known and secretly approved of the representation, goes the logic in this example, and other editors who followed the offending author on Twitter must have seen the flaws in their work. Soon, demands for the associated figures to cut ties with the original author immediately and apologize themselves explode. If they don’t, the figures risk being cancelled themselves. No. 1717017
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>How to Make Your Dream Dress Without Stress
>give up your project like 60% of the way there because a bunch of poos-in-da-loos whine and scream about colonialism
The entire peacock dress thing ignited my rage and there is no where I can bitch about it
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>>1717017The criticism on this project is insane. Picrel is the first link to come up when I searched her name and the dress. Outsourcing the embroidery is tonedeaf and cringe, but this kind of response is, well….
https://herhandsmyhands.wordpress.com/2021/09/24/the-peacock-dress-a-tale-of-white-womens-privilege-and-tears/ >>1717463same,
nonnie, same. Lost track of costube for a few years and apparently missed out on some major milk. I used to be in local historical costuming groups a decade ago and the community was chill and supportive, especially compared to now.
No. 1717868
>>1717586im also just jumping into all of this and im so confused. So some Costubers went to haiti and did voluntourism shit? That's maybe one of the only
valid complaints I can think of i guess. But aren't pretty much all historic fashion pieces originally made from materials gathered through colonialism?
I'm way more curious to know which agency/NPO they "volunteered" at, most of it is a scam to make tourists feel good about themselves.
No. 1718711
>>1717868Not defending some of the craziness of all this, but we can admit a rich British woman using underpaid Indian women/children to hand bead an insane recreation of a dress that was originally made, with Indian slave labor, to celebrate British rule of India is a bit tone death. Especially when the dress is being made for charity. Generally when people make the Marie Antoinette dresses and shit they do it themselves and don't collect donations to do it. Like you can line a "
problematic" dress but when people say they're using "original practices" they don't really mean this.
Plus the community is super against fast fashion because of the labor issues and harp about it constantly.
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>>1720046Wow, this is a dogshit video. I actually tend to enjoy insipid media analysis along these lines, so long as there's
some basis for what's being said, but man, this guy is super dishonest and/or fucking retarded.
The movie shows again and again and again how unfairly society treats these two characters, and this YouTuber interprets all that as the the movie saying that's how things
should be. What an unbelievably retarded take.
I seriously am unsure if he actually thinks this or if he was just shitting out a video so he could get ad revenue. In some parts, he almost starts talking about the subject as if he
does realize that the society in Chicken Little is being satirized, but he never explicitly states this. However, in the intro, conclusion, and title, he condemns the movie itself as having bad messaging. This video would've been tolerable if he used all the same examples but his thesis was instead "How Chicken Little Exposes The Failings of Our Neoliberal Society." In fact, I'm starting to think that something like that is what he originally had in mind, but he lazily reworked the video so that it would make better clickbait. (Maybe this is me being too generous, though, and he's actually just retarded.)
Some especially obvious satire that he seems to have missed or deliberately misinterpreted:
>gym coach divides students into two teams, "popular" and "unpopular," for a dodgeball game. >"this is an example of how social conditioning is reinforced at a societal level. […] it's psychologically driven to teach these children that unwanted social traits are to be punished or eradicated.Note: He never specifies that he's just commenting on the society in the movie. It's not clear from the quote, but in context, it is supposed to be supporting the idea that the movie is neoliberal propaganda.
>the town doesn't see the aliens because they all get distracted by a penny on the ground. >"How much more obvious could the capitalist themes of this film get? Everyone in this town is so brainwashed that a goddamned penny on the ground is more important than a flying saucer!"How much more obvious could it be that the movie is portraying the townspeople as stupid? This is not aspirational. Again, if this vid were about the satire of Chicken Little, this would be a fine example. But somehow, this is supposed to be neoliberal propaganda..?
>Ugly duck girl tells Chicken Little that he doesn't need his father's or society's validation, but nonetheless seems to wish that >"[Beauty standard dogma] is not an isolated part of the film. It is integral to the plot. […] I just want you to know how messed up it is that this is included in the film at all!"The point is that beauty standards are bad. At first, the Ugly Duck isn't valued because she isn't beautiful, and the movie makes it clear that she deserves more.
>chicken little and his duck gf save the day. a movie gets made where chicken little is a gigachad, the ugly duckling looks like jessica rabbit, and unmentioned fat autist pig friend is a superjock linebacker. >"Everyone gets excited and claps as the movie version of Chicken Little saves the day. […] Chicken Little is finally celebrated and accepted for everything he did. What's the only lesson you could possibly learn from having watched this movie? 'Your life is only worth something if it is valuable to society as a whole.' Fuck this movie." [end video]This reflects that even though society has accepted Chicken Little + friends, it still hasn't addressed any of the problems that led to them being ostracized in the first place. It's obviously trying to say that the Chicken Little society is bad. my fucking god.
It's a dogshit movie, but this criticism would be much more poignant if it was honestly engaged with. The movie's real message is that it's bad to ostracize people that are ugly, but at the same time, it constantly makes jokes at the expense of the ugly/fat/tiny(disabled-coded? lmao) people that they say should be accepted. There's also a tomboyish mean girl character that gets brain-damaged into being nice and likeable but also very feminine. Chicken Little's dad is written to be a fuckup, but is so much of one that he's completely unlikable. And it's probably because the movie does still have serious messaging failings that he decided to condemn the movie as a whole, but the movie absolutely does not endorse most the shit that he says it does.
Also, some more quotes that I found notable:
>"In a society that is collectively made up of conscious individuals, gender roles are as inherent as they are in nature. There's no alpha or omega, men are not inherently dominant and women are not inherently subservient."I… what? This is textbook gender essentialism. If he didn't go on a random, obligatory girlcock-slurping tangent, he'd get torn apart for saying this. He goes on to explain that we don't need gender roles because we can use our conscious brains to ignore our biological disposition towards gendered behavior, revealing that he really doesn't understand the basics of feminist theory.
>"The acorn incident [where Chicken Little falsely claimed the sky was falling] was commercialized to condition the populace to discriminate against him."No? There is never any intention ascribed to the movie having been made.
Huge sperg but jesus christ this video was awful. And I didn't touch anything besides the basic-bitch media analysis parts of it.
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>>1721799It's not a joke. He makes a few jokes about how he's overanalyzing the movie, but it's just him using meta-irony to preemptively shield himself from potential criticism.
Here's some comments from people who don't think it's a joke that were also liked by the video creator.
No. 1722080
>>1717619I found this
https://gurugossiper.com/viewforum.php?f=885&sid=b5644a857c22b98a6eef0a738e67e3fdand was glad I wasn't the only one having second thoughts about some 'famous' (??) costubers, the discussion over there is kinda repetitive but it's a nice place overall
No. 1727058
>>1726338Nah, it's fun when ppl are alreayd talking abt it.
But tl;dr, mid breadtuber wannabe james somerton after throwing shade at nebula for not replying to his emails, got confirmation he had basically been shadow banned for being annoying during a podcast with nebula ceo and lindsay ellis.
He then twitted, petty as hell, that he would start calling them out for not having exclusively queer content creators and also not featuring many
poc's (he's white and gay fyi). Basically everyone on nebula is some shade of the lgbt rainbow, so said creators called him out on it, and his fanbase and another youtuber's started sending death threats to the other creator.
It's died down since then tho. Same old same old.
No. 1733394
This is the worst breadtube video I have yet seen, to call it misinformation would be an understatement
The title of the video is "The Gay Body Image Crisis" by James Somerton, now seemingly its a video essay about gay people's body image issues, but in actuality its just bizarre venting against fit guys through ahistorical revisionism. Long post incoming. 1/2
So the main narrative presented throughout the essay is that physical fitness, exercise and bodybuilding were invented by the Nazis, based on antique statues and then bought to the US by gay soldiers, where it shaped first the gay sub culture and later became the mainstream image among the heteros. There are a few obvious problems with these statements.
Modern fitness training in the US started about a hundred years before the Nazis, In addition, the bronze era of bodybuilding, began with Sandow before the turn of the century: predating the WW2 and the Nazis, So Americans, gay or straight, hardly needed inspiration from the SS in regard to body image and exercise.
He also makes a claim that the BMI formula was specifically invited by white supremacist and used by Nazis to find an ideal solider bodytype, so again the BMI predates the Nazis and while the tables were developed after WW2, and they were based on mortality studies. The normal weight category was the one with the lowestmortality rate, not the one closest to a SS-Supersoldier
No. 1733395
>>17333942/2
The most absurd claim he makes is that he states Ernst Röhm(early member of the Nazi Party and leader of the SA the the early Nazi Party's militia) was killed because he was fat and hence didn't fit the image of the ideal man, while the party politics surrounding the so called Röhm coup are not even mentioned. Somerton leaves out the fact that one of Röhms greatest rivals, one who talked Hitler into killing him, was Hermann Göring – a man even just as fat as Röhm. Seriously, of course this was about power, not body image.
at the end of the video Somerton, based on this misleading historical narrative, try's to shame people for being into fit people because that's what "Hitler thought was perfect."
like the bodies in the clips he uses are not that uncommon in young men, that's the bodytype of most fit healthy young men that can be found in any race,
The whole bodypositivity, HEAS and fat acceptance movement was always ripe with body-shaming and open scorne of thinner people, that is nothing new. But the politicization of a certain body type, its identification with a political ideology, is. Do leftist need to gain fat in order to not cause offense in leftist spaces now?
like guess who also heavily idealized the muscular body in their propaganda,: The Soviets, as it indeed was associated with workers.
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>>1733395>at the end of the video Somerton, based on this misleading historical narrative, try's to shame people for being into fit people because that's what "Hitler thought was perfect."its even worse then that, he references his own body there and not the preferred bodies of potential partners and says "Why do you want me to look like the type of person, that Hitler thought was perfect." he's literally saying that if you tell him to lose weight, you are literally promoting fascism
No. 1735366
>>1735274But at least they can play
victim about their obesity and be called "inspiring" for doing so.
No. 1735443
>>1735206I can only think of Contrapoints, Hbomberguy and Xiran. MAYBE Shaun so many people keep spamming his JKR videos.
Vaush and Hasan seem to have a cult following but also get mocked more than anything
No. 1735445
>>1733394I watched the first five minutes and couldn't get through it, I'm not a fan of this guys video editing style. My gay friend saw the video and said that this guy is just full of it and just upset that he can't get the muscular guy of his dreams because he's fat and I feel like he's more than likely right even though I didn't watch the full video.
It's not different than the fat activist women who complain and moan about how the world is "fatphobic" but yet these women typically don't seek out and date men who are obese.
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>>1744554Most children's books are fascist. Pat the Bunny promotes the agenda that only whites deserve touch. Why is Judy White? What are their pronouns? Did the bunny consent? In this 6 hours video essay we will explore the latent Nazi propaganda found in classic children's literature.
No. 1745535
>>1744554Still not on par with this Troon's 10 Hour overanalysis(and I mean overanalysis) on why every aspect of Harry Potter promotes fascism,
sexism, misogyny, racism, homophobia, british imperialism, queer erasure
Its legitimately mental illness
No. 1745584
>>1745569He made a video trying to moralise 10+ men abandoning an entire classroom full of women to the hands of a mass murderer when they could’ve just tackled him down. He legit said “the worst thing about a man killing brilliant young women because he hates women is that men might have their feelings hurt.”
He will face the wall after a revolution that’s for sure
No. 1745768
>>1745584No he didn't. He made his usual pretentious liberal arts overanalysis that took a twitter thread way too seriously as per usual, and his take was almost as bad as the tweets, but it was the twitter thread moralising about the Ecole Polytechnique shooting while misrepresenting what actually happened and he never "legit said" that.
>He will face the wall after a revolution that’s for sureGo back.
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>>1745845>>1745900There's an Orwell passage that's too perfect not to share regarding breadtube
>The typical Socialist is not, as tremulous old ladies imagine, a ferocious-looking working man with greasy overalls and a raucous voice. He is either a youthful snob-Bolshevik who in five years time will quite probably have made a wealthy marriage and been converted to Roman Catholicism; or, still more typically, a prim little man with a white-collar job, usually a secret teetotaller and often with vegetarian leanings, with a history of Nonconformity behind him, and, above all, with a social position which he has no intention of forfeiting. >To this you have got to add the ugly fact that most middle-class Socialists, while theoretically pining for a class-less society, cling like glue to their miserable fragments of social prestige. I remember my sensations of horror on first attending an I.L.P. branch meeting in London. (It might have been rather different in the North, where the bourgeoisie are less thickly scattered.) Are these mingy little beasts, I thought, the champions of the working class? For every person there, male and female, bore the worst stigmata of sniffish middle-class superiority. If a real working man, a miner dirty from the pit, for instance, had suddenly walked into their midst, they would have been embarrassed, angry, and disgusted; some, I should think, would have fled holding their noses. No. 1746354
>>1746058That's the same guy.
https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/KrautUsed to stream with Sargon and those types, but had drama. Interesting if he's been pipelined to breadtube. The more extreme the conversion, the more suss they are to me.
No. 1748117
>>1745535I watched the video for a couple hours in the background whilst I was playing video games and the majority of what he complained about were things the plot actively acknowledges are morally wrong or bad, like how Harry Potter was abused as a child by the Dursleys and how Hagrid is an incompetent teacher (which the movies admittedly gloss over a bit but it's brought up relentlessly in the books).
Harry Potter certainly has actual flaws, but this video is pretty much saying you can't depict any negativity in media ever lest you influence someone. It's very pearl-clutchy, which is ironically what they always accuse us of.
>>1745566I actually like this video. I think it's worth saying that Slytherin continuing to exist without any meaningful change after Voldemort's death probably isn't ideal. It's like how people still supported Hitler after he died - people's opinions don't just magically change overnight. I know it's just a kids/YA novel but it's just food for thought.
>>1745569Yup. I don't mind some of his videos and he has a decent take every so often but I find him so insufferable, especially on his Little Joel channel where he freaks the fuck out over every little thing.
Also Jen did a majority of Shaun's writing and research. That's why Shaun makes a video once every 6 months to a year now.
No. 1748136
>>1748117>Also Jen did a majority of Shaun's writing and research. That's why Shaun makes a video once every 6 months to a year now.Ah, is that why he also got more and more boring the longer after she left?
I'd love it if we found out Jen was a secret
terf who left to get away from the tranny simping
No. 1748761
>>1748739actually he only covers Mexican history to the 18th century in that particular video, he discuses 19th and 20th century history in two separate videos, in those he mentions the various parties involved which fucked up Mexico instead of blaming it one person of nebulous force
he puts his sources in the bottom
No. 1749041
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>>1747965It's not really that difficult to be intellectually and morally superior then Vaush
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>>1749045last but certainly not least
No. 1749401
>>1749043This argument is so weird to me. It's the "no ethical consumption under capitalism" one. But I almost guarantee he's reprimanding people for buying the new Harry Potter game whilst he apparently believes this.
It's not comparable, because if you purchase CP you are directly dealing with someone who is responsible for hosting and distributing that material. If you buy parts for a computer or clothes that were made in a sweatshop, there are tons of middle men who are not complicit in, have no control over or may not even be aware of the abuse of children via slave labour, who just need a job because, you know, we live in a capitalist society and someone has to fulfill those roles. People should buy ethically sourced products when possible though, but that's just not a realistic ask for everything.
No. 1749491
>>1740328and of course two ugly black moids, 1 black troon and one token enby pick-me, call her a race traitor a
TERF and a Fascist
No. 1749825
>>1740328I definitely can be hard on her for her content on incel shit, but i am glad she called these people out.
>>1749491I absolutely detest the moid in the thumbnail. 90% of his videos is just pity parties for black moids and it's so fucking annoying and pathetic.
No. 1749969
>>1740328I think she’s a secret
TERF deep down, I’m glad she’s taking a public open minded stance to radfem women though so other women might be more willing to consider our opinions
No. 1749982
>>1749491At 16:00:
>gender critical feminism or gender realism, like that's… so many people have already taken that apart, that we're kind of to the point where that's not an ideology that we debate with… >it's either just fascism or it's right next to fascism. If you just look at who the people who espouse this ideology associate with it gives you clues about what the ideology actually isTranslation: the brains trust has already looked down through their telescopes from their ivory towers, already checked it all out and based on who agrees with certain ideas, they can vouch for the fact it's all just fascism and it's wrong. There's no other reason for why fascists would use this as a wedge issue, there's no need to explain it to normies, no perspectives worth consideration on their own terms. The debate is over because the intelligentsia say so and we should just let the vanguard take over and drive.
18:57
>If you can't get with pronouns in 2023, that's transphobic. Like we won that one… we won that one, right? >Right, and like the insinuation that like that's something we have to go back and fight for every time is like kind of the annoying or like frustrating thing is. I feel like a lot of this type of moderate talk is like you need to meet people where they're at and I'm like I think we're, the standard of where we're at has gone to a point where I can't fight you with on pronouns anymore.So fucking out of touch. This is exactly what kidology's video was about. If people don't understand then the standard is not there, because the standard is normative, not prescribed from on high.
>…at this point we've gone to all the other tools, if we gotta use social shame to do it, let's talk about that… what other tools? It's been social shame from the beginning. That's why they can't answer simple questions.
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>>1749982>gender critical feminism or gender realism, like that's… so many people have already taken that apart, that we're kind of to the point where that's not an ideology that we debate with…Reality is fascism and I'm safe in my safe space
No. 1750146
>>1749982This idea that gender critical women by-and-large are in bed with conservatives or people even further right than that is just ludicrous. The gender critical movement is incredibly diverse, more so than any socio-political movement I've ever seen. Magdalen Berns was a socialist for fucks sake.
There's constant arguments on Ovarit/Twitter/etc places where radfems gather whether or not it's beneficial to give these Conservative types an inch because they actually have systemic power and they ultimately agree with us on the trans issue, although for almost entirely different reasons. I personally disagree with doing so because it should be women talking about these issues, women being platformed, etc, and I think JK Rowling has realistically done far more work for our cause of peaking women in specific than someone like Matt Walsh who is just hijacking our ideas and misunderstanding them (because he still fundamentally believes in gender roles).
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>>1750319>their fanbases think they're so countercultural and that they have such smart things to say and both of them have absolute garbage opinions>zero challenge to any status quo. puka shell necklace faggots.basically picrel
No. 1750462
>>1749849I don't think she is a breadtuber at all, she was only posted because she makes them seethe by being centralist and calling them out. I am sure a lot of them would be deeply
triggered by the transracialism stuff too even though all of it is based on her lived experience. Honestly, everything about her completely goes against breadtube.
No. 1750562
>>1750519Nta but to play devil's advocate, conservative men are terrible but at least they're honest about it and they'll tell you exactly what they think of us. Breadtube/leftist types will cloak their misogyny in 5 layers of irony or hide it behind other beliefs such as trans ideology, and that somehow makes it okay to their audiences.
That being said we should just start holding all men accountable for being misogynistic regardless of their political leanings. It's just that as women, we often don't have the political or social power to do so.
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Which one of you skinny legends posted the tweet that made Big Joel big mad enough to make a vid about it on his 2nd channel? My sides.
No. 1750823
>>1750519leftist men are rapist porn addicted johns
all men are terrible across the spectrum
No. 1750838
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>>1750818Every time i see this man, he looks more like picrel
No. 1750857
>>1750838Yeah. I don't get it. A couple years ago he was ugly but like… Normal ugly, if that makes sense Now he looks like a sewer rat. I was about to say that men get used to not having to take care of their appearance and then that eventually catches up to them when they hit their 30s, then I realised, nevermind, apparently Joel is only 27. Holy shit.
His hairline is super receding too. If it was me I'd just shave it off at this point.
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>>1750803The absolute state of pick-me's
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>>1755099Yes, here is an excerpt from the script.
No. 1755499
>>1754982They're always hypocritical narcissists. Lesbians need to unlearn their transphobic preferences but transbians are allowed to not date other transbians who are "totally not different at all to cis lesbians" because dysphoria can be
triggering. Somehow we are suppose to pretend this is not about letting their dicks have what they want.
>>1755439Is he actually retarded and has no understanding of language at all? Other languages also have honorific pronouns and their usage is nothing compared to gendies asserting what pronouns people have to use to validate their delusions but of course he has to make everything about himself. The absolute narcissism in expecting people to laugh or else they're wrong when the "joke" just exposes that he's a dumbass troon who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Unironic "I'd fuck me."
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>>1773662And for shits and giggles, I made a compressed version that's a mere 376 kb. Hopefully lolcow's dying servers would only take 20 seconds to load this.
No. 1773762
>>1773662Holy fuck I stopped following the PT thread a few months back…. has his narcissism increased tenfold in that time or was he always this awful?
Also imagine going back in time and showing college-aged PT that clip kek
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>>1773762He's been really brazen with the AGP shit, but otherwise, he just does and says things that are extremely narcissistic in a very mundane way, like always.
Boring "milk":
>Alice (the white hijabi larper dude that he does the KJB podcast with) seems to be getting fed up with Philosophytube. Even he can't stand this guy.
>PhilosophyTube tried to badger some person who holds the intellectual rights to some book into allowing him to make a movie of the it. Was shut down hard.
>His play was bad, but he got his online audience to vote for him for all the community choice awards anyways. Somehow felt validated when he won.
>His great-great-grandfather or something was a literal colonizer. No. 1775856
>>1773860NTA but stop WK-ing.Big Joel was featured in a meme about how leftist men are ugly and he couldnt resist making a refutal video about why the meme is
problematic. Thats peak cringe behaviour.
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I'm sad that Princess Weekes (formerly Melina Pendulum) looks so bad these days, she went poly and has been progressively gaining weight and making herself look worse with 'wacky themed makeup.' In her last couple videos her boobs are hanging out and you can clearly see her bra holding on for dear life when she wiggles. Her
background/room is also a cluttered mess. I keep thinking what's next for her Twitter identity/lifestyle bingo card?
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how does he look more masc than before all his surgeries? i nigh pissed myself when i saw this
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>>1785208No idea who is in her polycule, but she looked like this during 2020
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>>1749491and of course the fat bastard would shit talk Alice Walker of all people for supporting JK Rowling and claiming she was never a real feminist
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this is so funny because I just know he is only taking this stance because there is evidence of him saying he has never experienced gender dysphoria before in one of his pre-trans videos. and because he always has the most retarded take on everything.
No. 1793835
>>1792617I listened but tbh the last episode where he spoke to the host was kind of boring. Main things he spoke about were
>his own experience of being cancelled and attacked by TRAs (his own community)>how this makes him sympathetic to JKR being the subject of a witch hunt but also wants to join in the attacks against her>said he has been a huge HP fan since he was a kid>broke down in tears at one point because he "still cares what she thinks" >said he hoped JKR would come to her senses and see how she is hurting trans peoplehe didn't have anything interesting to offer up, and I say that as someone who has enjoyed his past videos (up til they became 2 hour long narcissistic ramblings). I feel like he has really dumbed himself down in recent years, and i'm not sure if that's because he feels that's what being a woman means or if he's just checked out mentally.
the other trans person she interviewed was so much more interesting and insightful, with a very balanced view on things too.
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Anyone else see that Ana Kasparian is getting called a transphobe for this tweet?
https://twitter.com/AnaKasparian/status/1638608868485005314Cenk is defending her and getting cancelled for it too kek
No. 1793859
>>1793835It was a horrible interview on his part, I think that's why he's been trying to do damage control online.
The bad "arguments" he made + the out of nowhere semi-crying made me realize Contra is in the middle stages of Jordan Petersonization. It's crazy seeing it happen.
No. 1794761
>>1793835He also said something of the effect of "if only cis wimmin can understand what it's like to have your healthcare threatened like twans people are experiencing!!!" Like really? At the same time that abortion laws were overturned in the states? Fuck this guy seriously.
All he really did in that interview was deflect, deflect, deflect. Also the way he just rudely interrupted Megan lmao. You can tell he was silently seething at her throughout that entire interview and giving her a bitch attitude when Megan was nothing but polite and non-confrontational.
No. 1794859
>>1794835>people predicting her leaving the left entirelythe hysterics over this are ridiculous. it's like they're saying any challenging thought or critique is a slipper slope to fascism. the irony.
>piss off trannies one time and you’re out of the clubthis will keep happening more and more. progressive women who go along with the trans narrative and support everything they say begin to feel comfortable in their position as an ally and feel like they can start to challenge the small niggles within it (like objecting to being called a person with a uterus) as they wrongly assume that is a perfectly reasonable stance and that most people, including trans, would agree.
even the handmaidens attacking Ana right now will find one of their own assumptions goes against the rules and will be outcast themselves.
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>>1793838clip of her saying that people who have a problem with gendertard language are just culture war morons. not sure if she is just dumb and not paying attention to what she is saying or has actually changed her views on this. i'm thinking the first.
No. 1795313
>>1793942I guess it's not really a surprise when this is the same dude who had that disaster of a debate with Blaire. He's always been fucking dumb.
>>1795122I wonder if it's because the narrative of what she's describing (gender=/=sex) has actually changed in recent years. Now, trannies are claiming that sex is actually a spectrum, not binary, something that's only "observed" etc and therefore not actually real which is what TERFs have been warning about. I like to think a lot of women including her are peaking.
No. 1795375
>>1795313>thinks he is a woman because he acts dumb and twirls his hairthis is what i've noticed. and especially when he is speaking with women (or Blaire who he perceives as a woman) he really dumbs himself down, speaking in a way he thinks is more emotional, cos that's how women think and communicate right? not logically, just emotionally. make sure to cry and giggle as much as possible.
>>1793942this is so true. he always appears unprepared to have his thoughts challenged, even when the person he is speaking to is going easy.
No. 1799924
>>1795822What's the audio source? I don't recognize this voice
>>1799891I have never watched his stupid Harry potter video but how on earth did this idiot who cannot understand this very basic analogy manage to construct a single argument worth listening to? Is he even capable of reading a children's series and getting the subtext or larger themes? His video is long too so he had to have attempted to make lots of arguments (though it's telling I only know of the stupid goblin nonsense) but with the inability to follow basic logic I seriously doubt any of them could have been anything groundbreaking or new if logical at all. I expect that video is just an amalgamation of points he's seen elsewhere badly overexplained because he's incapable of understanding new concepts or creating new arguments on the fly from what I've seen.
No. 1800443
>>1799895kek
the cope when you're so attached to defending troons that you can't simply admit water is h2o. the mental acrobatics involved not only around sex and gender but other scientific things that might expose why none of this makes sense.
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On one hand it’s awful that authors aren’t treated with respect and struggle to make a living through their careers even if they manage to sell loads
On the other hand, she’s not a starving artist and it’s disgusting seeing her pretend like she is.
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>>1803310it's interesting she seems to have given up on focusing on Chinese history
No. 1804218
>>1793835>>1793859I felt the same through most of it. The one interesting part was the projection on where this would all go in the future, because I predict the main lifeline this ideology has is its potential to provide men a lot of easy sexual partners.
It's just the underlying thing there is it all comes from the fact that even left wing men aren't accepting the underlying premise of gender ideology. "Trans women are women" really just means, don't call me gay for fucking him or masturbating to this. Y'know it's just the trap discussion taken to the general public. The whole reason they go for it is knowing that gay men are relatively easy. So for a generation that has lower social skills on average than ever and can't really manage older dating norms, it's a gift.
If you're a TRA, though, there's an obvious problem which we already see in places like Thailand. You don't really want to empower someone you want easy sex from, you don't want to give them options. That's where the real hurdle is if you get past the conservatives. Things aren't just going to normalize the way contra speculates.
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Average Breadtube watcher.
No. 1804883
>>1804220I find that the few "
POC" breadtubeers often try to portray themselves as the ultimate authority of their own heritage, even though they are culturally the same as any white liberal.
like F.D Signifier's review of Black Panther, its so fucking clear that the has no reference for the political state in 1992 or how much crime there was. Black Politicians didn't wanna "get rid of the bad blacks" or whatever to appease Whites. They wanted to stop the rampant wave of crime that had plagued the country for the past 3 years. There were bad side effects of the crime bill, but characterizing it as a racist piece of legislation is wrong, lazy, and disrespects what should be a carefully analyzed issue that effected the black community.
No. 1805051
>>1804883I think a lot of black (and white) leftists can’t appreciate that a lot of regular black people are quite conservative/religious and hold pro-police “tough on crime” viewpoints -
especially if they live in high crime areas. You can’t view people as a monolith, and most people aren’t going to feel sympathy toward criminals who are terrorizing their neighborhoods.
No. 1805410
>>1804838lmao amazing.
incredible that this person thinks they respect workers. they're so far removed and disconnected from normal human behaviour and reality, yet think they have something to say about the working class. depressing but not surprising insight into today's "socialism" discourse
No. 1805416
>>1805063>>1805051exactly. it's all well and good to theorise why such and such is good or bad but in the end it won't be an issue for you if you don't have to live the reality of it. eg. if buses full of young immigrant men got dropped off into your neighbourhood suddenly overnight and violence, crime, rape went up, you might change to more conservative views on immigration policies. it's not black and white - good or bad. it's unfair that those who deal with the consequences are the ones who bear judgement for not being politically correct (implying they simply aren't educated enough on the issue).
>You can’t view people as a monoliththis, basically
No. 1805420
>>1805410samefagging to quote the communist manifesto, just for giggles
"The Socialistic bourgeois want all the advantages of modern social conditions without the struggles and dangers necessarily resulting therefrom. They desire the existing state of society, minus its revolutionary and disintegrating elements. They wish for a bourgeoisie without a proletariat."
No. 1805850
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the young turks think a young woman getting attacked, mobbed, harassed and threatened is 'karma' for standing up for herself and other women.
they purposely chose a thumbnail that shows her with trump (dodging a kiss from him actually) to make her seem like an ebil wHiTe LaDy
No. 1805874
>>1805051the funny thing is it's not even inconsistent with marxism. lumpenproles(criminals specifically) are not the same as proles. lumpens often survive by victimizing the larger proletariat. lots of socialist countries end up cracking down heavily on crime or even promoting the elimination of different types of lumpens as a revolutionary goal. the black and latino workers wanting the criminals gone was actually them trying to pursue their class interest.
it's just the US left is so warped you can't have realistic discussion about anything. since they are all nonprofit based instead of labor based the US left will actually fight against the workers to help the lumpens.
it's also the source of the weird dichotomy they have with the democratic party that usually gets blamed on "idpol". when it's like "no dummies, your class analysis is shit because it was completely cooked up in academic enclaves."
No. 1805974
>>1804220>said shit like China was a LGBT paradise before whites went there. I feel like she kickstarted something since I've been seeing a lot of videos on tiktok made by Chinese people (Chinese-Americans?) talking about how China was LGBTQ+ friendly before the Brits.
>>1804883>I find that the few "POC" breadtubeers often try to portray themselves as the ultimate authority of their own heritage,It annoys me so much when they try to present their countries as progressive in the past when it definitely wasn't. China is a weird one, so they were so respective of queer people but women had to bind their feet and stfu? How does that add up?
Many skew their own history to pander to westerners or dunk on them (sometimes both), it's so embarrassing. Unrelated but, for all the "India accepts queerness!" videos I've seen the comment section is a warzone with a lot of Indians refuting going "uh no the hijra are basically thugs" which does not match the image these people are trying to present.
No. 1805996
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>>1805974>I feel like she kickstarted something since I've been seeing a lot of videos on tiktok made by Chinese people (Chinese-Americans?) talking about how China was LGBTQ+ friendly before the Brits. She didn't start this, This issue can be traced back to the views of Edward Said, who branded Western feminists as "imperialistic" for advocating for basic human rights for women in the Middle East.
He resembled the average breadtuber in him being basically a white liberal who positioned himself as an ultimate authority on Middle Eastern issues, even more so than European academics who conducted extensive research and Middle Eastern individuals who spoke from their experiences and perspectives. He also followed the breadtube tactic of labeling anyone who called out his factual inaccuracies as a racist.
Mind you Said's "Orientalism" is the #12 most-assigned book in college curricula.
No. 1806501
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kek Ana is going back in. good for her.
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>>1806501samefag. i think she is peaking.
No. 1807853
>>1803310>"I'm still a starving artist while I buy a quite expensive document from France because it has the sign of Robespierre, guys! Did I mention I'm a starving artist?"Granted, she earned the money and can do whatever she wants, but pretending she is while buying expensive stuff is a big slap to other artists.
>>1804220She's becoming in a big Franceboo thanks by Robespierre character thing.
No. 1808932
>Maybe not breadtube related yet relative to this thread:Has anyone watched this chick’s videos before? Blair or ‘illuminaughtti’s content was mostly centered on mlm schemes and shady corporations but over time, her videos shifted to extreme left-shilling along with lazy (according to detractors, she’s always been lazy with) research. She panders hard to troons and the LBGTQXYZ agenda while believing that leftism is the trve kvlt path to follow in vidrel. Centrists and the apolitical are scum! Her fan base aren’t any better, opposing comments are a dime and a dozen because they are mostly deleted or attacked. A tiny tidbit: Blair is also a landwhale who rarely shows her face unless it’s photoshopped.
She’s also part of a think tank called the ‘leftist mafia’ made up of neckbeards and uggos linked below where they flex how progressive they are or whining about the ebil anti-woke like she’s doing it now.
https://youtube.com/@therationalnational No. 1809861
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>>1809857I come from a neighboring country to Iran, where some minor ethnic groups have men who wear eyeliner and keep long hair, without it being considered feminine or queer. This was also the case in Iran in the past, and it was simply a cultural practice. Unfortunately, some people fail to understand this cultural diversity and make misguided assumptions and fact is the cultures in my country and Iran back then were extremely patriarchal and had an open culture of pederasty
No. 1809987
>>1809014proof or gtfo
>>1809009definitely a vendetta with all these ridiculous baseless claims
No. 1810770
>>1808968NTA but she has quite a following and is shilled a lot on places like /r/antiMLM by people who like channels like AtrocityGuide and are willing to lower their standards to the ocean floor. I've always found her videos to be frustratingly lazy, though. She offers no insight, her writing sucks, and her research is dogshit. At best, she can kind of curate the more interesting topics out of the pool of shit that's always talked about on Reddit or whatever.
I have no idea where these other accusations are coming from, but I haven't cared enough to look into her at all. I'm curious to hear more if nona has any proof or caps.
No. 1810789
>>1810775I dunno why he keeps groveling to his shitty audience that has canceled him several times. I think he thinks if he bitches and moans a ton about Rowling he’ll be on their good side again especially with the fumble he made on that podcast where he basically showed his ass.
He was in love with Theryn the tranny who’s now leader of mras but I doubt trannies or handmaidens will cancel him over that.
No. 1810805
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>>1810775not even 3 minutes in and he makes a joke about about murdering children. also not defending Anita Bryant but it's suspicious he doesn't mention the prominent of NAMBLA and pederast activists in early gay rights movements, which even lesbians and radical feminists took issue with.
No. 1810870
>>1810763>>1810509Men in the middle east wear eyeliner/kohl and had long hair and pretty much only stopped because of Westernisation. It's basically a joke in North Africa that gulf men like having long hair
"near Iran" is not a very helpful description.
>>1805996That's one way to misunderstand what Edward Said was saying but I don't really think there's any point in elaborating based on how you described him.
No. 1810905
>>1810775Contrapoints looks so sick in this. I hope he gets some help. Addiction is an atrocious and painful way to live and die.
Also just… lmao this floundering to divert attention away from an awful performance in a softball podcast interview is so dumb.
No. 1811006
>>1810775The part about 26 minutes in is fucked up. It basically goes through the fact JKR was abused in a mocking tone, dismisses the people the people threatening to kill her and yelling misogynistic abuse as not "genuine trans dissent" and basically tries to use the fact the podcast presented this sympathetically(what outlet that isn't right wing presents domestic abuse survivors unsympathetically?) to discredit it.
Contra tries to walk some of it back later, but jesus what the fuck is this?
No. 1811236
>>1810870unrelated but
nonny you seem based
No. 1812505
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Bringing up iilluminaughtii again because she just accused LegalEagle's team of ripping off her incredibly generic editing style. Sure, their editor did directly contact her about how she did effects, but absolutely nothing.
https://twitter.com/LegalEagle/status/1649151747598741512And HBomberGuy pointed out that she word-for-word copied a bit from a documentary on the anti-vax movement.
She's definitely a bit milk, egotistical, and autistic as hell, but I'm not sure if there's much else to her. There's been some previous discussions of her here >>/pt/840205 but nothing substantial came of it.
pic: accusing legaleagle's editor of plagiarism
No. 1812517
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>>1811015Jesus Christ, I hate men so fucking much. Hontra shat the bed after Roper asked him some extremely softball questions, so now he's trying to say that her reasons for disavowing her family aren't good enough. Fucking douchebag, she made the incredibly brave choice to do the right thing even knowing that it meant losing her community/family forever, and this scamming druggie fuckhead is saying she did it for men who called her hot. Oh my god, I can only resist the urge to a-log for so long.
No. 1812520
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>>1812511>>1812514Thanks. Reposting.
No. 1812737
>>1810775We're white hons on dope
Mom and Dad live in Kensington
41 myself
When I get enough rope
No. 1813084
Great, well-made video about Sophie From Mars (Eric Sophia McAllister, formerly Curio on Youtube).
If you don't know who Sophie is, he's a Breadtuber from the UK who came out as nonbinary about 3 years ago, and is a relatively prominent figure in online trans shit, making videos with ThoughtSlime and PhilosophyTube (who he is IRL friends with).
TL;DW:
He's an massive coomer who has a piss and a transformation fetish, is planning to get a "futa surgery," tells lies frequently, has been intimidating "terfs" at protests, has a fascination with and owns many knives, propagates trans genocide conspiracy theories, and thinks terfs are fascists and fascists should be killed.Unfortunately, he has since deleted his Mastodon account (no doubt re-made) and excluded the URL for this and his other socials from the waybackmachine. (Reminder to use archive.ph instead. It's slow and shitty but it'll have to do.)
I did find this weird callout post from 2021 by a FtM who claims that their MtF "wife" is Sophie's sibling.
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tangledwolf/no-everyone-isn-t-who-they-say-they-areThey say that Sophie:
>gaslit and threatened his sibling with a knife>either wasn't transitioning or was doing DIY transition, despite having been very vocally against DIY in the past>greatly exaggerates the difficulty of getting a gender ID change>was "arrogant, aggressive, violent, and manipulative" and never showed any signs of being trans as a child>would cruelly enforce gender norms on his sibling>smokes weed constantly >isn't dysphoric>expects to be showered with gifts, applause, and money for being trans>doesn't contribute anything to the world, just "pontificates and snipes people on twitter" No. 1813153
>>1812876Too many lip fillers and/or a botched rhinoplasty fucking up his ability to breathe. And after all that, he's still stuck with a long, horse-like middle face.
His voice is extremely grating to me, I have no idea how people can listen to that shit nonstop for hours. It's an unholy combination of obnoxious faggy troon voice, thesaurus abuse, drugged-out slurring, and "like," every third word. On the rare occasions I skim his videos for milk, I mute the audio, turn on captions, and set the speed to 1.5. It's intolerable otherwise.
No. 1813736
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>Xiran: There are no white people in the book because they're not needed. Is satire, btw. Did I mention it is satire?
>A random commenter: why would color matter anyway it's all about character development for me in books
>Xiran: That's microaggression!
No. 1814283
>>1813084i'm only half way through watching this but it's brilliant. thanks for sharing. he is one of the worst of the breadtubers for me (I find him sooo similar to Phallosophy Tube so it doesn't surprise me they are irl friends) and i'm thoroughly enjoying someone rationally, and without low-blows, document the misdeeds of this creepy, grifting narc.
I'm shocked (yet not
surprised) by just how much money this guy makes off people by playing the
victim card. a straight white middle class man who is a classic entitled bully, using "communism" and "socialism" and "environmentalism" to show what a
good person he is. supposedly he is meant to be writing things that change the world and uses this as justification for why he needs so much money. meanwhile he is clearly a greedy soulless money-grabber and doesn't give a shit about the environment or social issues that don't directly benefit him. only his own fetish and drug habit.
No. 1814285
>>1814283samefag but I kekked at the bit where he claims he was the
victim of having an up-skirt video shared on social media by a journalist, and then it showed it was literally the wind blowing his dress and it just exposed his long bike shorts underneath. AND THEN you go onto his twitter profile and his pfp is literally a lewd upskirt shot of himself. seriously unhinged.
No. 1814426
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This is the most "breadtube" take I've ever heard. This man's understanding of the world is just theory and video games. He seems so out of touch with reality that he genuinely believes playing video games can easily translate into becoming a farmer or laborer because he thinks it would be fun. This isn't just a childish or idealistic fantasy; but reveals a profound disconnection from the practical demands of the real-world.
No. 1814604
>>1814426the amount of
"literally"s is unbearable. and just his tone and expressions in general. these coddled little theatre kids in their hyper-consoomer dens, thinking they know shit about the real world is hilarious
No. 1815137
>>1814426So this is full video. I've listened to this twice and I still don't understand what he's trying to say. Comparing the difficulty of actual manual labor to clicking a couple times in Stardew Valley and Power Wash Simulator is just absurd. Anyone who has actually had a job that involved physical labor or even been forced by their parents to do labor intensive work understands the difficulty of real-life work.
Also specifically regarding his argument regarding for emulators(I'm not that tech literate but I'm thirdworld fag that's used emulators to play games since I was 5) does he not know If the specialized factories making these parts shut down, it wouldn't just affect the consoles- it would also affect emulators since they rely on computers with similar parts. Emulators run on computers that face similar supply issues. The chips that power these consoles, as well as other electronics like phones, cars and home appliances, are made in a long, complex supply chain that needs a strong profit incentive to keep going
No. 1815309
>>1814426neat! so someone just needs to put out an Assisted Living Simulator so that guys like this can discover their life's calling of diapering Alzheimers patients for a living out of the kindness of their heart.
this man is so sheltered, just put a bullet in him in minecraft or whatever they say on yt to not get demonetized
(alogging) No. 1815589
>>1805996Did you read Orientalism? Because I condemn Islam as a feminist but to discredit that theory based on vibes is bullshit. The Dragon Mistress/Submissive Geisha dichotomy, the way Western Europe treats Eastern Europe and the Balkans, etc, is all tied to Orientalism.
>>1811414The invasion of Iraq was unjustified and to this day even the people involved in Iraq's invasion admit it was a mistake.
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More obvious contra skinwalking from Oliver here.
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>>1815089It's so bizzare to see an author shlling their own book this heavily on TikTok. Almost every other post on their account is a fandom TikTok centered around her book, which she seems to created herself. It would have been different if they were just sharing the posts of others
No. 1818155
>>1818113I just find her very unattractive and annoying seeming. I think she went heavy with the non binary shit because of her looks. I hate speaking on a woman like this but she seems like one of those people who makes crazy face and dresses odd because they don't think they are attractive. Kinda like how as Jill got bigger her look got more clowny, not thinking they are attractive but being obsessed with themselves causes these women to go down the ultra woke "I'm not a woman! Look I dress different and make silly faces!"
She's not even ugly just very unattractive.
No. 1818156
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>>1818144>>1813736There were ethnic groups in China during various historical periods, such as the Tocharians, the Tajiks, and the Sogdians, who were not of East-Asian appearance by modern standards. In fact, one of the characters in her book was based on An Lushan, who was of Sogdian origin and depicted as having a visibly caucasian in appearance
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>>1818159Is like she's ignoring that no one complained with Mulan movie that didn't have a white or black character. Even in the failure of live action, people complained more about the lack of Mushu and the captain than… "representation"?
Picrel, isn't she Chinese-Canadian? Why would take offense of people asking for a question in another language?
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The Description of this video
>No such thing as a 100% safe career under c*pitalism so might as well go for what you want
This genuinely pissed me off. Her family is filthy rich and lives in a mansion, plus she's politically well-connected. yet she thinks it's okay to just spout nonsense to her clueless followers, and it could actually mess up people's lives.
No. 1820081
>>1819778They would treat her like NA treat white people with their "1/8 percent of Cherokee".
>>1819918If she's sooooo anti-capitlism, she would donate these novels like she did with her other book not only for schools, but that means no expensive shit to spend money into, right?
No. 1821156
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Seeing Hassan getting pranked and flabbergasted by the Bill Clinton kid made my night
No. 1821189
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So does everu breadtuber come from wealthy a backgroundd, Like Vasuh's, whose dad works in Hollywood special effects; Xiran, whose family is wealthy and has ties to the Chinese Communist Party; Hasan, whose uncles are owners of a major American media company; PhilosophyTroon, whose family are of old English money; and Hontra, whose parents were university professors. Unironically, someone like Sargon may have more in common with the working class than all these people
No. 1821269
>>1821189and not just their backgrounds but how much they're making now. the biggest breadtubers are in the 1% (>$500k at
least) now kek.
eat the rich! except if they're breadtubers uwu
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>>1821269>Vaush earns $500,000/year before taxes from his online content creation career which includes YouTube and Twitch streaming. However, this figure may vary depending on his actual earnings for the year. According to certain estimates, Vaush's YouTube channel makes between $61 and $1.4K per day. Vaush's net worth, as of May 2023, is estimated to be around $745,000.https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/vaushhttps://starstat.yt/ch/vaush-net-worthThat's more then what my parents have made in a decade.
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this is really old now but i just discovered it and haven't seen it discussed here yet. Hontra was in Hilary Clinton's apple TV series 'Gutsy' kek. he appeared in two episodes I think and Hilary and her daughter even go to his house (vidrel).
So JK Rowling is the devil but Killary is chill? he is so shallow it's gross.
No. 1826303
>>1821189>Unironically, someone like Sargon may have more in common with the working class than all these peopleYes and no, his ideas (and the ideas of all the right-wing YouTube darlings) are not new or unique and they do not originate with the working class. Ideas like "men need to be the strong and silent type, never show any weakness, respect the people putting food on their table, understand employment is a voluntary business transaction between two equal parties, asking what Jesus would do, etc" are 'coincidentally' ideals that are extremely beneficial for the wealthy class. What makes more sense for them? Having employees that think complaining about capitalism and exploitation makes a man an effeminate snowflake, or employees who understand class struggle?
That being said, Sargon will have the illusion that he has more in common with the working class, but only because these ideas have already been propagated within the working class for centuries at this point. It's not like working class people are dumb, easily fooled and couldn't understand genuine pro-worker ideals, but they do get all this social pressure of being called a fag for caring about their own rights rather than the rights of their boss. Kids from wealthy backgrounds aren't subject to that kind of peer pressure, on the contrary, reading books and forming alternative political opinions is heralded as proof of their obvious intelligence and superiority to the other kids.
No. 1827271
>>1827216I still hate him, honestly
POC breadtubers have an insane ego cause they basically have power in all conversations with white leftists.
>Also Kidology was laughing and finding it funny Destiny donated 10k to Atlanta police.I'm not American, I don't give a shit.
(racebaiting) No. 1827531
>>1827216Destiny still proving that he's just a maladjusted moid who always does his edgy routine to get attention, but it constantly backfires and make him look like a cretin.
All of his stances are superficial and spite based, just like all of his posturing on sexual violence/harassement online, only to go hang out with StatutoryRapist22 for clout.
It's insane people still give this guy credibility, he's just a less successful Keemstar drama-baiting idiot.
(lolcow.farm/info) No. 1828987
Here is a debate/conversation between F.D Signifier and Kidology, his video
>>1749491 on her basically got her fired from her Job(he only half apologized for it but says she actually got fired cause she was a black female and she should really be blaming the system instead of him)
he kept on bringing up her being “Trans Antagonistic” and was being respectful towards him and had the chat be respectful towards him.
No. 1829223
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What has Oliver done to his face? Buccal fat removal?
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>>1829223He definitely had a chin shave at least. And kek, these images were next to each other on google image search. He’s got the dead-eyed fish mouth contra stare down.
No. 1829289
>>1829230Besides what the other
nonnie said, Contra has more of a chance of passing than Philosophytube. I mean neither really do, but Contra knows all the angles and stylings to trick people more easily than Philosophytube.
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Moving this from the Youtube Thread
>>1830183 No. 1830380
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>>1830276>>1830183sage for no milk but I looked up one of the authors she listed and she looks exactly like what I expected her to look like.
No. 1830461
>>1830277"carceral feminism" lmfao
Men in jail for crimes they committed is wammens' fault. Just close your eyes and think of the Revolution™, girls!
No. 1830537
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>Xiran Unironically, confessing that your awfil self-insert book is inspired by Darling at the Fraxx!
Why would anyone willingly admit that their novel is just bad fanfiction with a new coat of paint?
No. 1834378
>>1834368Haasan was the one who did that cringe video saying he was more attracted to transwomen then "cis" women, then was like, "I have to unlearn my dislike for penis because it's transphobic" or some shit. I truly think that he's all talk. Someone claims he mainly is seen messing with actual women who are attractive, never troons.
I just think he's the average pandering idiot. Vaush is an super coomer, so he probably genuinely loves troon. I find it funny how men into troons do all this mouth service for them, to show support, to make sure they are "protected" but the men into actual woman who do this only do it to get close enough to be an creep or good boy points with women.
I assume it's because they know they can get sex easier from their fellow man (troons), and their male brain will always try to manipulate women
just enough to get sex/attetnion/good boy points, hoping it'd get them sex.
With troons they can just be woke, pretend to care, or not! Doesn't matter, troons will fuck/suck them on the low anyway because they are gay scotes and men
respect men even troons more then they respect anything born female.
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lmao
No. 1835731
File: 1685221419406.webm (10.47 MB, 640x360, Vaush Yaniv.webm)
Oh my God, he unironically defended Jessica Yaniv - the troon who went to women's spas and demanded to be waxed, or he would sue them for discrimination
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>>1835693Also he's a pedo defender.
No. 1841384
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The online left will never be able to succesfully pander to actual workers, look at this keyboard freak
>"this image has done untold damage to all left wing discourse cause it doesn't account for praxis and obesity"
shut the fuck up.
No. 1841492
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>>1841384Someone from the IWW(once one of the largest workers parties in America), unironically commissioned picrel, posted it on their official social media, and defended it against those who expressed disgust. They even went so far as to label any detractors as "reactionaries". It like they internalized the conservative label of 'degenerates' and embraced it, ignoring the fact that most people would find the artwork gross and perverted.
So yeah the western left is in a sad pathetic state RN.
No. 1843226
Broey Deschanel got a CBC gig
>>1830545because she's a uoft student, they like using feminist language and being performative but deep down they are abuser apologists.
she is right about the context (migrant fear deportation, bw fear of betraying community) but her solution is wrong
victims shouldn't bear the burden of making the decisions to report, it should be the state/community. That being said toronto police officers are slow when it comes to DV/sexual assualt cases.
No. 1843519
This video and the comment section are a complete denial of reality. Unlike the troon I can admit I'm not an expert, but I have completed a year-long physiotherapy course and did gymnastics when I was younger, which makes me qualified than a philosophy major who overanalyzes everything. So the idea that humans are not sexually dimorphic is completely unscientific, we can identify people's age range and ethnic origins with their skeletons. At 12:58 in the video, the troons brings up a random study about transmen being able to beat regular men in sports, although I don't know the exact variables, the fact that no transman has ever won against regular man in any competition shows how unlikely this is. His argument that transwomen win more, only because they were raised as men and more experience then women, falls flat when considering the existence of female athletes in Eastern Belt countries who were trained from childhood to compete in Olympic sports, yet their records are regularly broken by teenage boys. I seriously question how many left-leaning people who hold these opinions, have ever actually competed in any physical activity in their lives, let alone competitive sports. This whole debate is completely pretentious and ridiculous.
No. 1843764
>>1843519like the entire argument that many trans women were socialized as boys or young men to pursue physical fitness and sports is already a fine argument towards separating sports by birth sex. the entire reason sports were separated by sex or gender was these social reasons that could put women at a disadvantage that destroys any real or fair competition. not that women are incapable of being stronger than men per say, but that women are habitually discouraged from the same life long conditioning and training. of course the elevated testosterone and it's performance enhancing affects in a majority of cis men is part of that decision but not the only aspect.
i'm so tired of these twitter fuckwads denying the role of male socialization in trans womens lives but then acknowledging it when it suits them.
I have some friends that are trans women, so "moids" or TIMs as you would say. they unprompted talk about male socialization being real, an aspect of their amab privilege compared to cis girls, and something they are trying to unlearn. same with internalized misogyny. she will immediately center the conversation on the ways this world robs cis women and girls because she actually has feminist beliefs. I know that all may sound like left woke bs to some of you. but I find it really self accountable and good. a lot of trans women in real life are reasonable and are not obsessed with putting down cis women and do not view cis women are their oppressors inherently.
There really are some misogynistic monsters on twitter who are trans that i am so so sick of seeing bullying the vulnerable and engaging in incel shit
but having irl a friend or two who's a trans women and actually firmly believes she has male privileges is eye opening.
i feel like if youre a trans women or amab but are very open about having male privileges in many aspects and aren't pushing the idea that her gender identity somehow overrides the benefits she enjoys from a patriarchy that favors the male sex, i personally do see that as a sister
No. 1843992
>>1843764one day you’ll learn there’s no such thing as a “good” tranny. he’s doing the thing all male “feminists” do to make you trust them. also
>per saykek
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>>1843519>I seriously question how many left-leaning people who hold these opinions, have ever actually competed in any physical activity in their lives, let alone competitive sports. This whole debate is completely pretentious and ridiculous.That former seems to be the case tbh.
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I've watched a couple of Big Joel's media analysis videos, and it strikes me that he misjudges what something is trying to do, and then criticises it for failing to do it well, or in other words fails to understand why the things he analyses were made.
For example, in his Dream Motel video, he frames the series as The Twilight Zone but with a prosaic Christian twist- "what if you could meet the adult version of the fetus you were thinking of aborting?", "what if you could go back to a time where you sinned and do the Christian thing instead?"- and then criticises individual episodes for how they fail to explore their premises when framed in this way. But the show is actually much closer to a Christian take on Dhar Mann, with Dhar Mann replaced by Jesse Chris (the most understated name for a Jesus stand-in since Lost's Christian Shepherd), who gives the episode's main character a second chance once they've INSTANTLY REGRETS IT.
For example, there's an episode where a woman is frustrated with being stuck looking after her mentally disabled brother and gets the chance to visit a timeline where he was never born. It turns out that in the world where she wasn't constantly stuck at home caring for him she partied too much and ruined her life because this is a conservative Christian tv show. Joel criticises this episode for trivialising what he frames as its central conflict, the ethical question of whether is would be okay to erase someone from existence for the sake of your own freedom, by making the world without her brother so bleak that she wouldn't want to choose it anyway. But what the story actually is, is Girl Wishes DISABLED Brother Was Never Born, INSTANTLY REGRETS IT! That the outcome of the wrong choice is comically oversimplified isn't a failure or an oddity, as he frames it, it's the entire point.
pic unrelated
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More tiktok than youtube adjacent but Rayne Fisher-Quann/@Internetprincess/@Raynecorp is a journalist, tiktoker and microceleb who writes pseudo intellectual articles for i-D, dazed etc.
>rose to fame by being the face of canada's largest student protest against sex education reforms.
>recently got exposed by @officialindygojones for hijacking her movement and completely removing the indigenous aspect, the movement originally included the reforms that erased education on stuff like residential schools.
>She commented under tiktok which was basically damage control, denying she made herself the face of the movement and denying her grifting.
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>>1845579rayne's response comment 1/3
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>>1845593indygo herself is indigenous and while i do think there maybe some jealousy. i also think she's rightfully angry at rayne for turning it into a gig for her sex education activism grift. It's very obvious she used activism to launch her career in fashion mags. If you look at most of rayne's articles/videos the content is very shallow and relies on using academic language. She's a tiktok version of olisunvia
No. 1845673
>>1845600it's actually insane and pathetic that "this pose is trending on the internet" is a topic worthy of an entire article in 2023
>>1845669and on top of that, you're right that this fucking retard is too stupid to even make a coherent point. I don't think fiona apple circa the 90s and a fucking cartoon whose face is drawn on are following the fucking instagram pose trend. the internet is making us all terminally fucking stupid
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>>1845600Thw comments on her tiktoks are getting swamped and she's playing
victim now
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I know this is irrational but I really hare hearing her speak about the French Revolution. She can be rich and a communist or socialist but it’s so weird how her audience has no idea that she’s from a very rich family and she never talks about China in a critical way but obsesses over discussing how problematic the West is.
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>>1845859This is such BS, While it is true that many European royals throughout history were kinda crap, it's worth noting that after the 1800s, efforts were made to train them as competent leaders by sending them to military or nursing schools and they receive education and training in various fields, this does not automatically make them effective leaders though. But on the other hand, the extreme extravagant lifestyles of Chinese royals surprised visiting Europeans, so It's beyond hypocritical of her to glorify Chinese royals in her videos, considering that they too were even more indulgent and ineffective leaders.
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Can someone please explain what the fuck Nebula is? like some channels I like are posting exclusive their but a lot of breadtubers also seem to be migrating, so what's the deal
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>>1846560>Like they dropped this one youtuber because she said, six years ago, that it's not ok for a transwoman to punch an old lady in the face.That was Jill Bearup, the insane thing is that she deleted that post just a month after making it because she didn't want to cause controversy. However, it still ended up ruining her future YouTube career: now, no one will collaborate with her, won't give her a shout-out, and companies that consider themselves progressive won't platform her because of one post that again she deleted and for also using mumsnet(which they treat like its some far-right forum)
picrel are the first results when I search her name on twitter.
No. 1847547
>>1846970>>1847000I'm more of a liberal than anything else, so I'm not tossing this out there as an insult: Breadtube is a collection of lazy liberals who use "leftist" vocabulary to the detriment of leftist politics. They've totally neutered and subverted powerful ideas, words, and concepts by using them as a means of soothing their various flavors of privilege-induced guilt. Their fans feel similarly guilty and helpless, so they eat it up. You couldn't have executed a better anti-left psyop if you tried!
They can't even fake being responsible consoomers, or make the tiniest sacrifices for the good of others (beyond restricting their vocabulary and policing others'). How often do they talk about regularly volunteering? Attending city council meetings? Reducing your waste and water usage? Stealing hubcaps off your boss's car? Doing no-buys? Going straight edge? Learning how to sew/cook/garden? Consumer protections? They just sit around and cape so fuckin hard for their favorite movies, video games, and porn genres but sprinkle some surface level critique on top so their teenage fanbases feel like they're listening to serious critical analysis.
When they do talk about actual social issues, they end up saying egregious shit like
>>1843519 and
>>1835731 and
>>1830277 because their developing brains have been stewing in (literally) unreal, online internet politics.
None of these people do fucking anything other than pretend to be good people online. They don't even fucking vote without bitching about it.
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>>1848640bonus, Nick looking wasted at a piano
No. 1849428
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So Vaush's mod team is beefing with a vietnamese breadtuber. Can't find how this started but then again Vaush hates any woman with a fully developed frontal lobe
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>>1849428This 'conflict' actually predates Vaush and Luna. Western leftists(most famously from the Frankfurt school), looked at the nationalism and strongman rule of communist states and declared it 'not real' communism or socialism because it didn't conform to their academic values. Soviet writers used to talk about how they were frequently challenged by these 'intellectuals' on their trips abroad, and were more hassled by them than by right-wingers. The Frankfurt School played an influential role in the development of western left wing thought and after the fall of the Soviet Union it became the dominant thought in the west.
No. 1849607
>>1848512leftist communities irl do and they act on it. constantly. couldn't really keep up the pace and maintain my own health so i stopped getting involved in local or university leftist community efforts but they were extremely effective people with great goals. real connection to their communities not just working with upper middle class yuppies. tho most running these groups were upper middle class older white yuppies but frankly those are usually the ones with the time energy and resources to dedicate. it's the same with right wing charity and volunteer groups usually it's white upper middle class run and it's most active members can be pretentious snobs at the end of the day, but that does outreach that connects with the rest of the community. i just fundamentally agree with the leftist groups morals and methods in ways that made so much sense to me, while volunteer work i did in conservative circles growing up often felt performative and band-aid. tho i've known leftist volunteer projects can be very guilty of the same.
the idea they're all super online people is because the only leftist people you know are online so of course they're a bunch of performative unhelpful losers. that's all internet politics
No. 1849625
>>1699678Hassan went to a brothel in Germany. He talked about it on podcasts and posted a Twitter post. Shortly after he left Europe, the brothel he mentioned was raided by German police for sex trafficking.
The stuff about animals is a mystery to me, but I wouldn’t put it past them. Linda Lovelace’s
abusive ex forced her to fuck a fog at gunpoint.
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>>1849428lol, at the hidden replies.
No. 1850468
>>1850409>One of her videos is called "The Absurd Horror of Marge Simpson", and it's over 50 minutes long.This is a point that has been raised on Tumblr and Reddit since the early 2010s: Marge Simpson's character is in a strange position due to historical anachronism and the sliding timeline of the show. The Simpsons was conceived in the late 1980s as an inverse of the nuclear American family sitcoms that were popular at that time. Over the years, writers have added to her story, such as having her attend college in the 1990s, but due to the status quo of the show, she always ends up back with Homer in a lower-middle-class household. Furthermore, Marge's voice actress is struggling doing the voice, resulting in her character receiving less and less screen time. so yeah, the observation that Marge's character is in a bizarre position is technically true, but this is an observation that anyone can make in less than 10 minutes(like vidrel), not 50
No. 1850503
>>1850489She says in the video “I know professors watch my videos”. Like come on.
The first James Franco video was only good because she’d done a dissertation on the book he adapted and so was able to clearly summarise the plot and characters. The second one flops when she attempts to do analysis without a professor guiding her.
No. 1850864
>>1850468Exactly. She's not wrong, but she's acting like it's some kind of profound truth that's worth nearly an hour of people's time to learn about.
I would also comment on her expression of smug self-importance, but that's common among breadtubers. lol
No. 1850975
>>1850412The guys name is "lily" and the entire video and comment section is just trannies wanting "accurate" groomer troon content in the Simpsons. And, of course, he complained about the episode where Marge's sister almost got tricked into marriage with a man.. KEK
He's also done the same with bob's burgers.
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>>1852997Bro has no business plastering that ugly mug on thumbnails while looking like the monster Inc monster.
He traumatized me by making me see him.
No. 1853874
>>1810775I know I'm late but I finally watched this and there's so many false equivalencies he makes that can easily be turned on him and made with the trans movement lol… the fact that he skips over bringing up lesbian feminists that have concerns with the trans movement and how it effects women and lesbians is very telling tbh… just saying "lesbians hate jkr". The fact that I know so many lesbians that have felt coerced or been harmed by this movement and that's just glossed over to say that "actually it's the men closest to women that harm women" true but what if those men are trans which is sometimes the case lol. Like the amount of women that peak literally because of TIMs close to them in some way.
Comparing jkr to Anita Bryant is honestly such an insane comparison
sorry just needed to get that off my chest… Also I guess he's now dating a "cis lesbian" and lol
No. 1853907
>>1853827Oh, man, it's been years since I saw Cadet Kelly. I was watching for Kim Possible, though, not Lizze McGuire. And I think I low key shipped Kim with the black girl supporting character.
>No matter how many times I hear this or see the "proof" she gives, I just don't see it. The characters are just ribbing each other, and their shared love is a one-dimensional good-looking guy that's been a thing in kids' movies since forever. That's how shipping works. Love interests don't matter, especially bland, boring ones. And if two characters are in an antagonistic relationship, especially if they end up as friends, that just fuels shipping fires. You never heard of enemy to lovers trope? And the rest of that video sounds crazy, so I'm just going to not watch it.
>then shifts the video on homo-nationalism and how gay people promote imperialism by not acting like massive degenerates or not having Drag at pride. this reminds me though of how in the nineties, when gays were fighting for gay marriage, there was a fringe minority of gay people who were like 'marriage is boring straight people shit. Real gays should stick it to the man and not get married cause marriage makes people conform to long term monogamy when they should be out being deviants and perverts. And, really, gay people should be focused on climate change and universal health care not lame ass marriage'. They called the gay people fight for marriage 'gay assimilationists'.
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didn't see this posted anywhere and I forgot if he had his own thread but lol?
No. 1854220
>>1853827I watched one other recent videos, and it was utterly bizarre. Just like her other video, she was insistent of her claim as 100% fact, that vampires are a modern European invention. Her "thesis" was that vampires were created as a cultural countermeasure against the loss of Christianity. She went on what I can only describe as a rant disguised as an academic lecture. Now, I actually studied folklore and mythology, and I know that the specific word 'vampire' goes back to the 18th century. However, similar monsters can be found throughout Europe(pale, undead creatures who drink or eat humans.) The earliest written accounts date back to at least the 12th century, and unlike her arguments, these monsters were usually defeated or warded off with the power of Christianity. Not to mention, she states that literacy was becoming common in the Balkans, which wasn't true until the 20th century (barring for the nobility). She presents her own dumb take as fact, which to me, is simply retarded.
No. 1854251
>>1853762In 2014, when Vine was still popular, King Bach explained why he performed the entertainment he did in a New Yorker issue (
https://archive.ph/QLGif):
>“That’s because, when I tried out the ideas going around Hollywood—that Asians play the smart people, white people play the rich ones, blacks are the thugs—those Vines got the most likes. So it’s not Hollywood being racist—it’s Hollywood understanding what people want to see.” No. 1855149
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>>1854075Destiny has overall better politics and seems to have one foot in reality as
>>1854152 stated, but just like Vaush and Hasan, if he encounters a woman with the wrong politics then he becomes the equivalent of the "Leftist men be saying the most violent misogynist shit you can ever imagine"
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>>1855344have you seen the new ursula?
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>>1855443His twitter handle is literally the "TheOmniLiberal" and he recently went on a podcast where he said he was proud of being a liberal because they are the cultural Hegemone in the west and he's right, as much as I dislike him at least he's honest about what he and most other breadtubers are.
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>>1855149We need to figure out how to harness the raw retardation generated during online abortion debates as form of alternative energy or something.
>>1855435>>1856246I tried looking it up… Destiny's been generating loads of hot takes for so long that it's hard to pin down a lot of his opinions/controversies/etc as someone who never watched him.
That anon may be referring to any of these?
https://www.dexerto.com/destiny/destiny-2-legendary-lost-sectors-schedule-and-power-level-requirements-2098352/https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/that-s-crazy-sh-t-destiny-calls-neekolul-convicted-felon-shares-abuse-story (video:
https://youtu.be/BGdCZepOkdM)
https://youtu.be/kvweSEnvAwg (you get the jist in the first few minutes, you don't have to watch the whole thing lol)
Picrel is another video I found that may be relevant, but I couldn't stomach clicking it.
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>>1856539>>1855435He has the same position on child porn as Vasuh(and a growing number of leftists sadly)
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>>1863657>>1863916She basically has the most cliché heterosexual fantasy in her books, where she is pined over by a pretty boy with a dark side and a well-toned physique, as well as a large bad-boy type who is often misjudged as violent but is actually just "misunderstood". picrel is a commission she had of her characters.
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>>1865131Is like picrel from polygamy meme
No. 1865828
>>1865550Can someone give a summary of this video? Hearing this scrote's voice
triggers a fight or flight response from me kek.
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>>1865231>>1869295It's actually inspired by a fan-service character from a shonen anime, because despite her supposed feminism, she's still a basic weeb and coomsuer at the end of the day.
No. 1869509
>>1869118Since she talks about how lonely she feels there might be a possibility that she’s that terminally online.
Honestly while I might not agree with her on many of her points, the videos I watched are interesting
She’s basically what Contra pretends to be. Kidology is capable of being sympathetic to people she might not agree with
No. 1871495
>>1871489Men think women caring about anything that doesn't benefit scrotes is bougie because scrotes have no concept of anything beyond cooming and dying and the maximizing of this opportunity. Tranny shit is dumb (and ironically is caused by this coom centric mindset scrotes are born with), but women have actual issues and are treated poorly for being female.
>hetorsexual white supremacist capitalist systemTroons are the white hetero male capitalist system. Buy a fake reality coomers and become big pharmas forever patient and coom yourself to death.
No. 1871509
>>1871495Yep. Women aren't fully realized people to this flavor of man, making our issues superfluous and fake. They're with us on abortion though- child support is expensive!
>>1871504Yeah, but the men raping these girls are also marginalized. Therefore, these girls are meanie right wingers for fighting back. Please refer to
>>1830277 to unlearn your carceral feminism!!!
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Average breadtuber reacting to the working class.
No. 1875082
>>1871730Only read the summary not the pedo's video but I'm guessing he totally disregards these sorts of posts he's made:
>>1749041 ,
>>1836197The way I see it he has yet to address the big issue that he seems to think "adult" and "child" are classes that will one day be equal under socialism/communism/(
>>1849434 )* and thinks he'll be free to rape them then. He seems to be under the impression (or doing the usual pedo cope/lie) that if we treated kids "equally and with respect" they'd be capable of consenting with an adult and that there's nothing else differentiating children from adults other than artificial constructs. To what age I wonder…
*
what book is this? I want to read it. I'm so grateful to everyone who has given us knowledge in this thread No. 1875502
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>>1875485you are absolutely spot-on anon, they are creating "precedents" to make the gender craze seem like a historically reoccuring phenomenon. they also like to modify figures that people used to unite under to turn them into tools to tear down society and pit people against eachother.
this kind of ideology presented ad history also associates this kind of left with higher education and culture, so now redditors with a small peepee and class envy think they have to turn to leftism to feel intelligent. flattering neckbeards' intellectual capacity unfortunately works really well.
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>>1875688I definitely didn't post it here, maybe it somehow made the rounds, but it has the exact same size all profile pictures are showed in. No harm done though, it's a cute dog after all it just jumpscared me. (I made my profile in april, so may is definitely possible)
No. 1876987
>>1856269Tiny does the classic liberal move of accusing every symptomatic reaction to liberalism (fascism, communism, populism) as being too ideological and yet thinks the hegemonic prefab liberalism is completely neutral. I don’t think he realizes that believing that is ideologically
sus to begin with.
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(sage your shit)
No. 1877156
>>1877143Jesus Christ even contra had the decency not to show off his fridge body in skimpy shit like this.
I hate this man. He can’t even be original in his obvious grift and his fans are drooling imbeciles that yasslight him every step of the way. He won’t ever know the truth of how nasty and cringe he’s being.
No. 1877385
>>1877225Nta
That's literally the point of the meme nona?
No. 1877652
>>1875918>>1876017>>1876702good job girlies we are very impressed your worldview is in alignment with a sheltered reddit socialist
>>1877156Contrapoints wore lingerie for a whole video. It's really dorky to attempt a thirst trap on politics youtube at any rate.
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Cow crossover
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I was recently reading this book called "The Double", it's this old Dostovesky novel. In it there's this really mediocre nobody that's sort of lonely, and then one day he meets this exact copy of himself that dresses like him, looks like him, and is really his exact doppelganger. But the weird thing is, in this world, nobody thinks this is strange! It gets bought up and people are like "oh yeah, I guess you two look exactly the same, he's like your doppelganger." And over the course of the novel, the doppelganger pretends to be the the main character's friend and starts doing the same job. But then there's a switch and the main character has his life taken over by his doppelganger. The doppelganger has better success at work, starts plagiarizing the main characters work and taking credit for it, he slowly becomes more liked than the main character. And over the course of the novel, the main character can't handle it, and his mental health deteriorates. It ends with him being taken off to the psyche ward.
The whole thing is written like a horror novel. And it must be creepy in a way, just having a doppelganger mimicking you in every way but just being more well liked, more successful. Him just slowly taking your place in the world while you're pushed to the side and just forgotten….
Anyway, I wonder how Contrapoints is doing these days.(sage your nonmilk)
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>Alysanne was tall and thin, with thick black curly hair, but also long legs and strong arms. Although not noted for her beauty or softness, Alysanne was regarded as a fierce, fearless woman, with a bawdy tongue. She was said to smell of woodsmoke
>Black Aly was an excellent hunter, horse-breaker, and archer.[5] She is rumored to have been fond of Lady Sabitha Frey
No. 1883199
>>1883106>>1883137Unless I can't read, the tweet says he was cast as Sabitha Frey not Alysanne.
Frey:
sharp-featured, sharp-tongued harridan of House Vypren, who would sooner ride than dance, wore mail instead of silk, and was fond of killing men and kissing women.
—writings of Mushroom
Sounds like a part Olly would have glommed on to. Wonder how much begging he had to do to get it.
No. 1883229
>>1883199No, you're right. No idea why
>>1883106 gave the summary for the gf character instead. Of course a TIM would pick a character like this, though. These AGP creeps just can't leave lesbians alone. But I doubt the moid writers did the concept good enough justice to be protective over the role to begin with. Maybe he'll read a critique of this all being male fantasies and mald over it kek.
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>>1881909same goes for most historical "transman" identities, its always families without sons have a daughter who 'becomes' a man, which usually requires them to wear masculine clothes and cut their hair short and everyone more or less agrees, but it's super rare and it's not a great existence either, because these women live their lives celibate, doing back breaking labor to provide for their sister's marriages and then supporting their parents until they die.
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Not really surprising.
No. 1889861
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>Iron Widow in Japanese
I would think she would have contacted her glorious China to release the Chinese version before than Japan.
No. 1889863
>>1889781nah, all the fash (except for Nick Fuentes who hates farms because that’s where they grow his bitter enemies, vegetables) were glomming on to the dude and claiming him as one of them
then dude was all “fuck off I meant you too”
No. 1890145
>>1889861I still never hear anyone talk about this book. It's honestly scary how it abruptly started getting all of the things extremely popular YA novels got around the early 2010s, despite the fact it doesn't have even a fraction of the hype or cultural impact that any of those books had. If you've never read The Hunger Games, Percy Jackson, or Twilight, you still probably absorbed some information about the books or their fandoms through osmosis, but that's not the case with The Iron Widow. Most of the people who know anything about the book seem to know of it only because they're familiar with Xiran (for better or for worse), rather than because they actually read it. There are obviously people who have read the book, but even casual reviews written on reddit feel like they're written put of some weird sense of obligation, rather than genuine enthusiasm. No one who doesn't know Xiran or hasn't read the book knows anything about The Iron Widow, and that's extremely unusual for a book getting official translations and a movie. It all feels very astroturfed, and it has me wondering just
how loaded her family is.
No. 1890319
>>1890145If you check for reviews on reddit the majority seems to think it's badly written YA, with a undercurrent of some going "She's such a bad-ass female character!! I love her!!" which is both hilarious and concerning based on what I read about how every other female character is treated by her.
One comment I think put it the best: it's like a male power fantasy written with a woman instead of a man.
No. 1891919
>>1890145I'm convinced most haven't actually read the book and they just go off by vibes and Xiran's videos on tiktok hyping it up.
Some of the reviews puzzle me, it seems like they never watched or interacted with Chinese media. Hyping up the book because it has Asian representation and Chinese elements?? Just go engage with Chinese media
No. 1891924
>>1890319I have read it and that's totally right: She wants to revenge her sister but treat other women as trash or feel no remorse when other women get killed. You would expect more empathy in that sense, but the MC has none. "oh they were killed by the man I killed? Well, c'est la vie".
>>1891919I have seen better women as MC in Chinese media than in the book, considering how misogynist is China in general. Is like Xiran tried harder to make misogynist like China, but failed at it.
No. 1891930
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>>1891925Haven't finished it, but one design that stood with why is a fox for the "wood" theme when is a dragon? Granted, it might be told in the sequel, but an imperial dragon has 5 toes while a common dragon has 4, it would be possible to add another dragon.
Then again that's me being a weaboo and probably forgetting one detail or two, but take it with a grain of salt.
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>>1891940Of course I knew this was coming but it still hit me like a truck, you are a spicy straight white woman getting married to a straight white dude. you are straight and you always will be.
also she goes a casually mentions how talking about "spirit animals" is cultural appropriation sometime later in the video, which is just even more retarded.
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>>1891940And, of course, she had to try to spin consooming slash fics as this queer creative act.
No. 1892055
>>1891996Jesus, she really is just dollar-store Lindsay, the way she berates other women for being "fake" bisexuals when she's married to a milquetoast soyman and has never touched a pussy besides her own. Seems like the fakest kweers are the ones most eager to question the identities of others, projecting their own insecurities.
So sick of straight women thinking that they're honorary gays just because they read a lot of fanfic. I partly blame all the retards who cry about ~fetishizing gay men~ because all it did was encourage them to pretend they weren't straight women to dodge the accusations. Let women be cringe, ffs. I'd take yaoi paddles over all the gender nonsense any day.
No. 1892089
>>1891984Holy shit, her speaking cadence has somehow gotten even more irritating since the last 2.5 hour long video of hers I watched. Her point about people dressing in "queer" ways is pretty fucked because she only opens it up to people who are 'learning who they are' and not just people who may enjoy feminine or masculine fashion, and
do know who they are.
No. 1892341
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Skimming through parts of Xiran's book, I honestly find it to be mediocre fan-fiction at best. I know English isn't her first language, so I'm not going to give her some credit, but she probably had an editor or something.
No. 1892386
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>>1892341samefag, is it just me, or is the love interest basically described as a white guy?
No. 1892404
>>1892361This fact never gets less embarrassing. DiTF is literal garbage, and there are some convincing arguments out there about how it was literally just trad propaganda with more pedophilia. I will never forgive
Trigger for making an anime that involved an arc where a girl who just learned about sex and pregnancy becomes so obsessed with it that she almost rapes a boy, and ended with blatant natalist propaganda.
No. 1892414
>>1892341she's obsessed with using commas where she shouldn't. I wouldn't say that this is that poorly written though - if this is 'mediocre fanfiction' to you, I need a link to the better fanfics you've read stat. the biggest issue with it is that the constant exposition is really dull - she both overexplains and underexplains, which isn't ideal for a prologue
>>1892361I didn't know this was ditf fanfic - I thought it was pacific rim fanfic!
>>1892400kek, it really is eight lines but it feels even shorter - it's more like three with how quickly your eyes pass over it. also the weird 'and again. and again. and again' is so offputting too
>>1892404>natalist propagandaI think you ought to spend more time offline
No. 1892456
>>1892341So, according to this prologue, they've been at war with these aliens for at least multiple centuries, right? And I know from reviews that it's mentioned almost all concubines will die after a single battle (except our super special girlboss of course). While I don't know how many of these pilots there are, and how many battles a week are being done, I feel like we can say at the very least that considering the women die but not the man, there should be an absolutely massive gender imbalance right? The type we already see in real life countries that only happened within the span of a few decades? And that we already know is so bad that the goverments will try their best to restore the balance? Yet somehow this society is só misogynistic that I guess everyone is okay with this because fuck women, even though at some point you'd expect the young men in that society to wreak absolute havoc because there's nobody there for them to marry.
Of course (parts) might be explained in the book, but I can't be the only one who thinks that's an incredibly bad set up.
No. 1892466
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>>1892341This is so heterosexual its not eve funny(again there's nothing wrong with that, I just wish she didn't do the queer LARP and was more honest with her intentions)
No. 1892524
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>>1892466You warned us about what this was, but my curiosity got the better of me.
No. 1892693
>>1892456>Yet somehow this society is só misogynistic that I guess everyone is okay with this because fuck women, even though at some point you'd expect the young men in that society to wreak absolute havoc because there's nobody there for them to marry. I mean, China has a big natalist issue due the rule of "no more than one child and fuck your family if you have a daughter" for more than 50 years? so in some zones of China some families have kidnapped single ladies from other countries to even marry their son with dead women (I kid you not).
So if she wanted to show how misogynist China is while being a misogynist herself, she did it.
I mean, she even said that male concubines were quite desired and quite pro-lgbt like a good thing, when we know these male concubines were younger kids and women were used only for pregnancy, home stuff and nothing else.
No. 1892705
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>>1889861Apparently Chinese people hate it too.
No. 1892800
>>1892693I mean that was kind of my point; it's been around half a century of those policies and they're seeing just how badly it's fucking everything up already. There's a reason that getting an ultrasound to check if you're getting a boy or a girl is illegal. And that got implemented like 30 years ago, meaning they realized it was fucking shit up really fast. So you'd think that after CENTURIES of young women dying en masse, the societal dismay would be absolutely massive.
>>1892705Wish they put together that document. I'd love to see more in depth criticisms.
No. 1892803
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>>1892693"I skimmed through the book again. Xiran mentions that there are 327 chrysalises in the army, which means there are 327 pilots in active service. Each pilot has more than one concubine for obvious reasons, resulting in several concubines per pilot. With 325 multiplied by 7, we get 2,289 active concubines. Additionally, since they die and need to be replaced, so about 10,000 concubines would be used in one year and this system has been uninterrupted for hundreds of years, regardless of how misogynistic the society is portrayed it just wouldn't work, the population would never be able to recover and function.
No. 1894867
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A child gives a breadtuber permanent eye damage and she proceeds to rant about how this will fuck up her job
No. 1894875
>>1894867I dunno how this is supposed to be unreasonable in any way, lasers are dangerous to your eyes and kids shouldn't be playing with them.
Also
>She, herListen to two seconds of his voice.
No. 1895936
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>Coomer moid who cares about "trans-kids" is also obsessed with "femboy" porn
Vaush is never beating the paedophile allegations.
No. 1896204
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Jump scare
No. 1896213
>>1894867>sheThat's a troon anon. Why do they always have this annoying way of typing. I don't know how to describe it but it's like the most terminally online twitter users have this particular way of typing where they're describing things in the least straightforward way. Like my god, cut to the point already.
>calling an 8 year old a piece of shitTotally normal behavior.
>>1895428Yeah, I'd be pissed too because laser eye damage is no joke, but I am losing sympathy for him with how sanctimonious he's being. He's Swedish too so it's not like it's going to hurt him by going to the doctor
No. 1896261
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>>1896204this makeup is giving doris from shrek vibes
No. 1896343
>>1894867tbh i'd have a similar reaction to him if a dumbass kid blinded me with a laser pointer. that being said, he needs some calm down time and could probably solve this issue without resorting to police by just talking with the kid's family. also if he was an actual woman people would be calling him a karen for this rant kek
>>1895428tbh there's nothing urgent care can do for him besides maaaaybe giving steroids (but those are only given if the injury is so bad the eye swells and reddens). this sort of injury sucks in that it will just take time to go away, kind of like healing a broken bone. all he needs to do is wait and his vision will go back to normal in a few weeks, which again sucks and i get why he's mad/scared but he needs to act like a fucking adult
No. 1896366
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I never really knew much about olly and was curious to see his transformation over the years so I made this nonsense as a sort of timeline and started adding notes. He's 30 and his face basically hadn't changed pre-surgery at all so I'm expecting the need for revisions as his face comes back. It's already looking manly despite him clearly getting a ton of work done. Spoiler for big pic and ugly moidface.
Before the contra skinwalking in video, his videos were just of his face talking and his peak seemed to be his face against an off-white background with his name inserted on screen beside him for a bit. Absolutely zero creativity in his bones, now the closest he gets to justifying his visual medium is his low-rent contra skinwalking where he has to pose so rigid to try and hide his body (but fails) he might as well be a voiceover over a pinup pose.
Also I'm betting he's another pedotroon seeing as his beauty video actually used loltia as a source (didn't watch to confirm though, his face and voice annoy me)
No. 1896369
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>>1896366he looks like a woll smoth version of justin trudeau
No. 1896386
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>>1896369I'm dogshit at photoshop but I had to try. You're not even wrong, he just has less of a jawline so I had to try and remove it too
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This is one of the worst arguments for veganism I have ever seen.
No. 1900380
>>1899877Sorry if I came across aggressive
nonnie, I wasn't trying to kek. I'm just saying it's a fetish that's only a few steps away from rape, I wouldn't trust any moid who's into it
No. 1902923
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Kidology throwing shade.
No. 1904037
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>>1899871>>1899916He's just a massive contrarian who likes pissing off people.
No. 1912939
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What is wrong with Hasan? he's treating this war like some stupid sports game, women and children are dying and he can't take it seriously for a second!
No. 1912967
>>1912939This cannot be real..hasan is such a griffter this is not a
woaw world event I can make money off real people are dying because both of their government sucks (both are to blame)but still innocent people are dying.. this feels so disgusting to see..I'm so tired of this conflict.
No. 1913465
>>1912939It's photoshoped you retard
>>1912970don't bother that's cow tipping
No. 1918043
>>1913578I hate how all of these breadtube vids have to add in random end of Evangelion references just because Hbomberguy did it, it's a great movie but it has LITERALLY nothing to do with Tim Burton and a large chunk of this video is just her assuming that he's an incel because he…writes dull protagonists and can't write women? As if that isn't one of the most common things hollywood directors do and is in no way exclusive to Tim Burton.
Hard agree about the Corpse Bride take though, it's pretty much impossible to find a reverse beauty and the beast story (closest is like, Shrek but that BARELY counts) which basically furthers the 'no uggos' rule for girls.
No. 1919820
So I occasionally watch Cheyenne Lin videos. I think she has some good insights on culture and media, but she is not good at discussing actual politics. and Vidrel has to be her worst (perhaps the worst breadtube video on feminism and politics I have ever seen). The topic is "why women turn to the alt-right", but she does not at all addresses that topic, She only uses the cases of Republican American women. Now, you can hate the Republican Party all you want, but they are not alt-right. They are The Right, the baseline standard, Anyway's, like most leftist YouTubers, she uses a paper or a book by some late 20th-century pretentious academic as the grand proof. In this case, it's Andrea Dworkin's book, 'Right-Wing Women.' Now, I'm not some rabid anti-Dworkinfan, and I do think she had some interesting points, but she was wrong on a lot of issues because of her fundamental approach. Radical feminism is Marxian at its core. It takes that Marxist theory of everything to do with class exploitation and applies it to sex. Now, that Marxist historical view turned out to be wrong in most cases because it fundamentally views that no one actually believes in anything. Everyone just thinks of their class status and nothing else. And if someone disagrees with that, well, they are somehow being tricked or actually lying. But enough on that. Regarding her video, I'll summarize the main points as best I can.
>She constantly uses the term "het cis white women" throughout the video, asserting that these are the only right-wing women in the world. In her perspective, there are no religious Muslims or Hispanics in her world.
>She believes that the only reason these women are "right-wing" is because they are afraid to confront their own privilege and actually desire the power that the right-wing ideology gives them over other women.
>She then claims that liberal women who are against transgender ideology are secretly right-wing, and if they don't support trans-women, they will eventually disregard all other women.
Really what can I even say, It's wild that someone like this relies solely on Twitter takes for their political understanding of the world, without any connection to actual reality. And it's depressing to know that there are tens of thousands of people who unquestioningly believe this shit.
No. 1925396
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>>1924713>Xiran living a mansion and soon getting adaptation on her bookLike if she earns the enough to pay even for a house with her straight fantasy book, the movie looks like it will fail.
No. 1925866
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Today on "Xiran please focus in your book and stay away of Palestine-Israel situation":
No. 1926354
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Olisunvia boyfriend reveal
No. 1926358
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>>1924713Mina Le has been grifting in fashion circles for a while and finally struck gold on breadtube. She had an interview a couple of years back before she started dressing like flapper. It's always the polisci majors kek, this the new grift since writing for the atlantic is too hard
No. 1926555
>>1926469He is gay, and he's probably one of the few actually gay people who would agree with queer theorists
because he's retarded. But there's no such thing as an "actual queer person" because "queer" doesn't really mean anything. It only means "gay" if you're homophobic.
No. 1927286
>>1927267I would agree with you but she did change a bit lately, and criticized redpill dudes a lot for being degenerates who take no responsibility.
Honestly I never got why it's ok for tea channels to always target women but brittany was a pick me for doing so. She was a pickme for hanging around disgusting men who didn't respect her
No. 1927393
bit late but i just learned that Ollie Thorne was in Django (a tv series released earlier this year) and he is sooooo bad. my sides hurt watching this.
immediately clockable and his voice is so ridiculous, he is desperate to sound feminine but just sounds like a posh old man with a cold.
>>1882324can't wait for this trainwreck. although how he gets cast is
beyond me. i get they need to tick diversity boxes but he is utterly atrocious.
No. 1929903
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This is the most troon breadtube title I have yet seen.
No. 1929926
>>1929903>>1929916Okay, so the video is 40 minutes long, and I don't have the mental fortitude to listen to that annoying troon voice for such a period. So, I just skimmed through it. The first section of the video is a sketch that lasts way too long, just like every breadtube video. Then, he starts talking about a webcomic by a transman. It revolves around a 15-year-old girl who murders one of her friends, gets arrested, and seven years later the girl (now a transman), is living her life. The comic explores the the nature of true crime and collective guilt.
Around the 10-minute mark, he delves into the criminal justice system's flaws and how prisons don't actually solve anything (although I do believe the system should be reformed, not abolished). He also touches on the topic of COVID and how many people died as a result of the subdued lockdown measures. At 18:15, he casually admits to still wearing a mask in public, criticizing people who are ignorant enough not to wear masks. He then tries to link it to conservatism and how their policies literally lead to people's deaths.
Finally, at the 20-minute mark (halfway through the video), he addresses the topic of regret for bottom surgery in transgender people and asks the question to the "transphobes", 'What do you want to do about it?' He claims that transphobes often use trans surgeries as a boogeyman and don't actually care about the potential regrets or complications. According to him, if there are complications, that's just a part of life, and it can be reversed. The video then shifts gears and spends the rest of the time discussing an indie animated movie by another troon.
at the end of the video, he finally goes into the main premise, that the idea of 'endings' is conservative and reactionary because it reduces human beings to simple story arcs and that people are much more complicated than that.
No. 1930037
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>>1930033Of course not. She praises China for being
homophobic, misogynist and racist the LGBT+ paradise before white people arrived.
No wonder why no Chinese editorial hasn't contact her yet for her straight fantasy book (then again, most of the BL novels are published under a pseudonym and you can find better Chinese drama books than hers).
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>>1707389You'd think someone who fancies himself an actor and a "
valid woman" would be able to pull off a more convincing female voice and look than Eric fucking Idle, who was being funny ON PURPOSE.
No. 1930096
>>1930094Champagne socialism has been a thing for over a century, and it's always the same thing. Rich people that want to feel good about being rich, consider themselves socialists and ponder leftist theory with the other champagne socialists. They all circle-jerk over how Good and Moral they are for believing in the plight of the working class. They won't DO anything about it, of course, because then THEY might become working class, and that'd just be horrid, eugh!
It's also why they focus so much on identity politics, especially in regards to gender theory, and why so many of them troon out: it pushes them past racial minorities and women to the peak of the
victim pyramid, so they can continue enjoying being the most important person in the room at the champagne socialist gatherings where they'll talk about how evil those poors are for not accepting their shitty wig, dress and Muppet voice as proof that they're Real Women.
No. 1930112
>>1930096We discussed this in another thread, but historically, every intellectual upper-class socialist group, if successful in taking power, always ends up being taken over by more "brutish" characters. At least 75% of the Bolsheviks were from upper-class intellectual backgrounds, but by the end, all of them had been killed or sent to the gulags. Stalin and his small group of thugs took power, and that's the only way to describe them: thugs, mountain peasants, and political gangsters. The man who succeeded Stalin(Khrushchev) was literally illiterate until his adult years, and that's the case with every communist government. led by a handful of violent, severely paranoid, brutish, ill-mannered men who are often way more superstitious and reactionary then the average population.
No. 1930159
>>1930154>I think hanging out and trying to do activism with these people is what pushed me outI still consider myself a leftist because ultimately I do believe in social justice and a strong worker-led society, but I cannot deal with these morons anymore and I don't give a shit about the label. Every single trooned out "leftist" I've ever known has done nothing but sit at home all day long, watching porn and playing video games and obsessing over themselves and how much they "pass", railing against The Man for not giving them unlimited and free access to any drugs and hormones they want.
They're all from rich families and have never had to actually do any real work in their lives. The server I used to be in came together and shamed me for helping out at the Salvation Army, because they're a religious organization and not exactly troon-friendly. Supporting their delusion is more important to them than actually picking up a fucking ladle and helping feed people that literally don't have anything. That day is when I stopped giving a shit about being an ally and stopped giving a shit about trans people in general, they're all just pure narcissistic poison.
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>>1930094>>1930088breadtube is rich college kid side hustle and an easy way to get something published without all the troubles of submitting something to an academic. Like Olisunvia is a rich philosophy student. Even Hontra was just a bored TA with rich professor parents.
>>1930159Even sane people who do activism are just doing it to shill their career. Take raynecorp/rayne fisher quann for example. She saw another person make a highschool movement inspired by an indigenous movement. Then she proceeded to coopt that movement and make it all about her libfem views, after getting a platform at unesco used all the clout she gain to launch her mediocre journalist/essayist career
No. 1930799
>>1927267>you criticize capitalism yet you live in capitalism: the videoliberals are insufferable
>>1927412the situation is better on the Marxist side of YouTube (beardtube)
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>>1931134
>there is an ethical way to live under capitalism
No. 1931150
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>>1900776>Then refute it?2 months late but I'll take a crack at it since no one else did. I respect the discipline of vegans and vegetarians who aren't preachy and stupid about animal ethics, but meat is a near necessary resource just as water and soil is as it currently stands. Its a resource that humans have developed whole industries around. Domesticating animals for the purpose of meat is not comparable to horrifically wanting to fuck them and raping them, especially if this male is arguing bestiality is comparable to the human need for nutrition from meat. If by "rape" he means how cattle are impregnated for breeding, that is debatable. In my opinion a human aka a farmer, researcher or conservationist inseminating a female animal with its own species semen is not comparable to the horrible image he paints for shock value here (and of course with female animals being the bud of his sick cruel rape-chimp joke). Animals are exploited due to mass scale production and capitalism like all other living things. Female animals are impregnated for meat and milk but we also propagate bees for honey and artificially breed plants and domestic pets. We grow bacteria and fungi in the same way for research and animal testing. Animals are also bred for the purpose of preventing their own extinction. For example the Southern White rhino was bred with a male northern white rhino as a last ditch effort to save it from extinction. Conservationists do this to preserve nature and make the ills of human expansionism into wildlife's niches back to pre-human expansionism, in spite of modernized industry. Furthermore, animals are bred for racing for example and other exploitative human practices like inbreeding dog breeds that seemingly have no utility or value to them outside of generating income and are just born out of a sick male culture like blood sports and horse/dog racing.
The bottom-line is that this argument is incomparable and born from a male centric, exploitative rapist thought. We need to eat food to survive. Meat currently is not replaceable as a food group as not all sources of protein are bioavailable to everyone on the planet equally. The production of meat alternatives are unethical to humans in how they are sourced through slavery for example in India, where womens hands are burned from harvesting cashew nuts, a popular protein alternative that vegans consume. Meat alternatives are also reliant on precarious factors outside of our control such as the weather more so than livestock farming, and they are insufficient in nutritional value. There's the question of global expansionism too. Relying on local sources of nutritional will always minimize your carbon footprint and supporting your local community over exploitative practices made by slave labor of the developing global south ala globalization. Supporting ethical farmers is a way of contributing to this as its less contingent and more scalable than global systems. Also humans cannot be sustained on carbs alone. Excess carbs spike blood sugar and cause a host of health problems, they'd likely spike a diabetic condition in the long term. Excess fat/lipids lead to the accumulation of LDLs which increase the risk of cholesterol plaques and cardiovascular disease/stroke. All meat diet/carnivore diet retards are insane as much as preachy vegans as they're at risk for heart disease too from their overconsumption of red meat but at least with vegans they consider the ethics of animals, hence why the only vegans I know are women. Meat is precarious too but as an industry it is more developed than alternatives, more scalable and localized. It also has the added bonus of not exploiting Indian women by scorching their hands for "vegan" cashew nut milk. If any vegans/vegetarians disagree please share your opinion. I give little shits about troontube though if I'm being honest. No one is an ally of women "politically", period and that's plain as day with troontube.
No. 1931167
oops accidentally bumped the thread
>>1931135it should also be said that this notion that socialists should be some kind of self-flagellants is nothing but Western christcuckery. the Western Left revels in suffering. it is obsessed with slave morality. to the Western Left, socialism isn't a higher mode of production, but instead a normative set of behaviors that workers should engage in because reasons. socialists in other parts of the world don't behave this way. and this is a huge problem with breadtube as well, who often doesn't have any politics that actually affects the base. instead they advocate for irrelevant or even reactionary shit like veganism and degrowth, that has nothing to do with Marxism. channels like Contrapoints don't advance the revolutionary cause. they are entertainment
No. 1931207
>>1931196>the nutritional value gained from crops grown on the same amount of land as animal farming is significantly lowerthis is extremely silly and wrong. carbs, fats and a whole heap of proteins can be had entirely from plants, and far more efficiently too. thermodynamics don't stop being a thing just because vegans are annoying. it's just that completely substituting all animal products is not really practical
>not exempt from downsides and environmental impact similarly to animal farmingthis is true of all human industry. arguably the only source of meat that's actually good for the environment is game
No. 1931229
>>1931150most retarded post I've read on this website
>>1931196second most retarded
No. 1931238
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Isn't it funny she's constantly explaining what her books REALLY are about and the readers' interpretations are all wrong when she's one of the people who were criticizing Rowling about the same shit?
If she failed to explain something or someone in her actual text it means she's a shitty writer who only got a book deal because she's Youtube famous. Also she surely has time to tweet about Palestine (the new hot thing she's expert of), maybe she should use that to write another book if she really wants to be seen as a respectable writer.
No. 1931747
>>1931238>MC wants to kill the man that killed her sister while hating men treating her like shit during the training and even she hates her own moid family because patriarchy doesn't affect them like it does to women.>"She doesn't hate all men, people!"Of course she doesn't hate the moids that
she the MC calls her husbands, but if the book starts with the character hating all moids and keep hating moids and people say this, is because your interpretation is shit.
No. 1933102
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>>1931238Here's the full thing, And as someone who partially read her book, I can still say that she's talking out her ass. First of all, Li Shimin features are only mentioned by her self-insert and no one else. Even the racist Han characters deride the Rongdi (the Mongol stand-ins) for the way they live, not their features. In fact, this page
>>1892386 is the first description of Li Shimin, and personally, I just found it as an excuse for her to have a spicy white male love interest for herself, rather then it being about the "struggles of racialized men" as she's trying to now claim now.
No. 1933340
>1933137
Hmm, I see what you’re saying nona but ancient China had a bigger population than any other place on earth at the time, afaik. Millions of male Chinese soldiers were also dying because China was being constantly raided and invaded by Mongolic tribes from the north and east and from the west by warlords like An Lushan. A lot of women also died, though probably at smaller numbers.
Records of war casualty numbers from that long ago can be a bit hazy, but theres more recent and well documented battles like Yehuling, where 90,000 Mongols killed nearly 1 million Jurchen and Han Chinese soldiers. After so many invasions, as China experienced for thousands of years, there would definitely be a surplus of enough unmarried young women with no men left in their villages to become concubines. I have no problem believing the ancient Chinese could source that many women as concubines and still have a functioning society. And during some famines and warfare literally millions of men and women died at a time. But yeah saying they were all disposed of or killed is kinda misogynistic, the reality is many concubines were considered legitimate wives and had children, and the male soldiers were expected to take care of them. However I don’t think 10,000 women dying would have affected their society that much. Ancient Chinese peasant women also had a fuckton of kids, often 10-12 or more.
No. 1935237
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I think about vidrel a lot. every time i see a retarded take or a breadtube video, it literally always sounds like this.
No. 1935322
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Can't believe Hontra's paypigs haven't turned on him yet. Only one youtube video in the last year and a half (a rushed self defence for crying on a pro-JKR podcast) and some high Patreon ramblings. Meanwhile flaunting wealth on insta.
No. 1935326
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>>1935322Almost $15,000 not including shipping. Not "all" the money btw but about one month's Patreon's worth.
Enjoy the video peasants.
No. 1935429
>>1935322Are Contra’s paypigs just holding onto hope for the idea that he will once again start making regular new videos? I would’ve thought there’d be a massive drop off wrt views after about 6 months or so of no content but nope. It can’t be fulfilling for him. As much as I dislike him personally, along with all other pseudo intellectual faux socialists, he at least struck me as someone who valued intelligent discussion and more nuanced thought about the arts in general.
So frustrating. He’s the blueprint for so many breadtube video essayists, yet seems to be doing all he can to now distance himself from that community. The lighting, the hokey script, the poorly timed and executed gags, the hour + run time…you all have Nik aka Natalie to thank for that cluttering up your feed.
I actually used to enjoy some of his pre transition vids. Seems like he was more thorough back then, and less up his own ass.
It’s crazy how his former MRA past does NOTHING to tarnish his reputation, yet if it was any other marginalized group (besides women ofc) his career would be over.
No. 1935439
>>1935429I think they have deluded themselves into thinking longer wait = longer and better video.
Was Nyk an MRA? He did have a cringe atheist phase.
No. 1935502
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>>1935495I swear that's what I don't get from the book as well. If all concubines/women died, what's next? Kidnap women from other cities/countries? The government paying for foreigner women to marry men in that cyberpunk China? Leaving the families have more than two kids as long as they're girls (and even then, girls would still live in that patriarchal shit)?
If there's something I learned from Xiran is to think in "what if…" even for the most stupid scenario.
No. 1935649
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>>1935349Maybe Thomas’s wasn’t tuned regularly, because they sound quite nice. $15,000 isn’t really surprising for a nice one; instruments tend to be expensive to start with. Price ratios for quality get quite steep for some instruments. The harpsichord appears to be one of those. Out of curiosity I decided to look at the ones on eBay, and even the baby’s first double harpsichord type options are within the thousands. Heck, even the singles are up there, and that’s not even for a new one. But it is a lot of money. I can’t even afford one for my dollhouse
No. 1935702
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>>1935582Of course. She's getting more fanarts, but you can notice them which ones are commissions and others are fanarts.
Which leads me to think: In most of their art they don't show MC having her foot binding. They show her feet (or not feet at all) as normal. Isn't the point of her broken feet to show MC as a poor woman hurt by patriarchy? Why her feet are normal?
No. 1935740
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>>1935702For some context, that's how her feet should looks like. Hell, she mentions the MC walks with a cane for the pain in her feet. Why do people draw her with normal feet, still amuse me.
No. 1936072
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I cannot imagine being this out of touch with reality. This is from a Alice Cappelle's video "the instrumentalization of Muslim women". Now, the thumbnail of the video is using pictures of Iranian women on one side fighting for freedom and Muslim women with their veils on the other, with Marine Le Pen on the bottom. Now, you'd think that she was going to do at least a video on how both forcing the veil on women and forcing them not to be allowed to wear it are both equally bad (which is still stupid to compare, but still at least acknowledging the problem). But no, 95% of the video is just about how French politicians and feminist are racist cultural imperialists for expecting Muslim migrants to assimilate in French society (mind you, she's very upper class, so she doesn't ever have to deal with actual crime and issues that migrants cause). The end part made me rage; it's just her stating "support Iranian women, but if you're criticizing Islam, you're just using Muslim women for your agenda, which makes you just as bad as the Iranian mullahs", while women were literally being beaten to death and imprisoned.
No. 1937000
Hbomberguy just put out a new video that basically amounts to "calling out" a bunch of instances of Youtubers plagiarizing articles and documentaries. It's actually a pretty alright video and I appreciate what he's doing here, but there are several instances where he gets offtopic and starts shaming people for social justice shit unrelated to copyright. Honestly, the whole bit about Internet Historian (which was justified and I'm glad he brought this to light) feels like it's there because the wokescolds on Hbomberguy's staff still feel personally aggrieved by the Dashcon video all these years later. I doubt the writer who found out about it was innocently browsing drama subs– I think she had a vendetta against IH for the Tumblr shit and was trying to dig up dirt on him. I assume this is why they complain about random shizos in IH's comment section and blame him for it by saying it's the audience he's "cultivated" when literally millions of people watch his videos, of course some are going to be insane. Then they bitch about him making rape jokes and racist jokes and it's like… yeah??? He's a fucking 4channer and has been up front about that since the word go, who cares? I'd be very shocked if HBG, a white British guy, never made racist or offensive jokes himself. Again, by no means am I trying to defend IH's plagiarism– he deserves whatever's coming to him for that. But the social justice gripes are such a transparent effort to cancel him. Then HBG has the audacity to say that an apology would fix everything. No the hell it wont, you Breadtube faggots wouldn't ever accept an apology for anything and you damn well know it. Apologizing NEVER works against the wokescold lynchmob, because no apology is ever good enough. They'll niptick the shit out of it and undermine it and use it as further pretext to attack the person, which is exactly what HBG did earlier in the video with the first guy.
Bottom line, the video would be fine without the culture war grievances and the disingenuous demands for apologies.
No. 1937015
>>1935322Honestly, this is a better use of his money than drugs,
depending on how you feel about the prospect of him overdosing. But we've all known for ages that the socialism shit is a LARP. Hontra would react to hard labor the way a vampire would to a cross.
>>1935429>Valued intelligent discussionMaybe before all of the hard drugs melted his brain. Now he's the Nikki Sixx of Youtubers.
No. 1937076
>>1937000>wokescold kysGo away. You’re applying way too much importance on an offhand quip. Hbomb used to be involved in something awful and mister metokur shit.
Tbh this video is surprisingly based because he destroys faggot ass James somerton for plagiarism.
No. 1937104
>>1937076I literally said that it was a good video. The digressions about IH not being PC enough were literally my only issue.
>Hbomb used to be involved in something awful and mister metokur shit.Which is exactly why he's in no place to be complaining about IH's chanspeak. He's casting stones from a glass house; at least IH has the integrity not to overcompensate for his edgelord past by turning into an SJW. Then again, he's reading a script written by "Kat," a Tumblrina who I imagine knows nothing about Something Awful.
No. 1937107
>>1937083The cave video was also super unlike IH's usual content; I have no idea why he didn't spin it as an adaptation of the article from the get-go. The Area 51, Kony, and Costa Concordia videos are actually his style, recounting real-life events related to internet culture with a heavy dose of irreverent humor. IH said somewhere that he originally wanted to make a video about Ted the Caver (which would have been way more on-brand for him) but that he got distracted by the Mammoth Cave story. So basically, he found the article about Floyd while researching Ted the Caver, and decided to plagiarize it. I just don't understand, if he liked it so much, why didn't he just ask the author for permission to adapt it? In his case, it's not like plagiarizing someone else's article saved him or his team much work, because they presumably already did a bunch of (now discarded) research on Ted the Caver, and they still had to do a ton of editing and animation (which is realistically where the majority of the time gets spent.) Even when the video came out, I thought it was unusually… not meme-themed for IH. Or as comedic as his usual fare.
No. 1937120
>>1937000>I think she had a vendetta against IH for the Tumblr shityou might be right for most of this, but I distinctly remember most of tumblr laughing about dashcon too. The video mostly sources tumblr blogs and "ballpit" was a meme for years and still is among oldfags there. Unless there was something mocking her directly (or something "cancelable" in the video I forget)? If she was at dashcon or among those who took it seriously then I take all this back, it's just far more likely they all just didn't like him cause he seemed "4channy" as opposed to being the tiny minority of people who wouldn't laugh at anything mocking the event so they were itching to cancel him anyways
>>1937014kekkkk
she'll get there though, I believe in most women here No. 1937134
>>1937104It’s not the chans speak it’s stupid cringe bullshit of trying to own le sjws rhetoric that apparently left a bad taste in his mouth. I mean based on the over usage of big red photos in IH’s dashcon video it seemed like a pretty lame telling of an already beaten dead horse. The only demand for apology he made about IH’s portion of his video was the transparency in him partaking in plagiarism instead of purposefully try obfuscate it and sweep under the rug. It’s really fucked up that a meme tuber like him felt the need to steal a whole ass well written article and claim it was his own personal creation and take in all the glory and clout of someone else hard work. Shouldn’t he be making videos about skibidi toilet and gyatt and rizzlers or whatever?
Speaking about Kat is she hbomb’s gf? He keeps name dropping her as her producer a lot.
No. 1937182
>>1937000Wow I'm actually dissapointed in the IH. I wonder if he has stolen more stuff? Like it was literally a whole article that he had stolen text by text. Surely you don't just do that out of nowhere, he must have done it before with smaller pieces and gotten cocky?
>I assume this is why they complain about random shizos in IH's comment section and blame him for it by saying it's the audience he's "cultivated" when literally millions of people watch his videos, of course some are going to be insane.I'm pretty sure the point of this was that because IH did not confess that the video got taken down because he plagiarized text, his dumbass fans started being anti semitic because they think the jews just are just greedy. This would not have happened if IH had just been honest on why the video was taken down.
>Then HBG has the audacity to say that an apology would fix everything.I probably missed this part, but yeah IH shouldnt apoligize about the edgy shit he has done in the past they never will be happy. (IH has some really misogynistic shit tho in the videos he deleted, which i think is still
valid to call out because he deleted them but refuse to acknowledge them). Anyway even though I enjoy IH videos,
Hbomberguy comments didn't bother me to much.
No. 1937192
>>1937000did IH write this? or just some weird fangirl? speaking from an objective viewpoint of watching neither youtubers and having no idea wtf this is all about, you sound like you already have a large bias against/grievance against HBG and side with IH by default.
all your grievances against HBG are either your own projected conspiracies around wokescold and years long spite, projected justifications for IH's shitty behavior based on the assumption HBG has done the same (more random biased speculation), and even your weird hyperbolic statements like "HBG HAS THE AUDACITY to say that an apology would fix everything". where? timestamp? just the statement alone sounds like your own confirmation bias.
your entire schizo rant of a comment is you asserting the majority of him as a personality or his words in the video are disengenuous. vs. the character of a youtuber whose been ousted for word-by-word copying copywritten material to profit off of. it'd be interesting if you genuinely somehow thought you weren't speaking from a place of obvious bias and weird contempt for HBG. take your meds lol he's bald and doing bad enough
No. 1937212
>>1937205Just look at the over use of photos of big red. Big red is such stale meme and an already beaten dead horse. Haha funny le sjw tumblrina hehaw.
It’s not hard to talk about dashcon shitshow without going for lame cheap laughs when the whole disaster laid out on its own is hilarious as fuck. You can make funny shit without reducing everything to one dimensional caricatures.
>>1937203He can’t write he is bald.
No. 1937278
>>1937251>hasn’t watched the videoWhy is this happening. So many people have a lot to say and haven’t watched the video. I’ve ready too much vitriol from IH fans who always add “by the why I haven’t watched hbomb’s video”. Come on now he only speaks about IH for a small portion of the huge ass video if you wanna properly complain about something just watch that bit it’s labeled and everything.
The majority of the video was about the fat grease ball faggot James sommerton.
I watched the whole thing could easily grasp the points he made about using all the examples of different creators plagiarizing their content as proof that this something that runs rampant amongst YouTube video essayists and creators alike. The main crux of this is how much derision and disdain plagiarizers have towards the people they’re stealing from. There’s entitlement of ideas and information these content creators have and couldn’t be assed to provide their original insights and ideas because they lack basic skills for sort analytical prose but I digress.
Anyway all the YouTube ad revenue of hbomb’s video is going to the writers who were stolen from.
No. 1937338
>>1937329It's not funny, but the video is genuinely informative and I think the plagiarism observations about IH are 100% warranted and important for people to know. I just think that HB undermined his own point by distracting himself with dashcon (yes, the original dashcon video from several years ago.) The long and the short (sorry for brief spoonfeed) is that the script for the video about Floyd Collins was basically just a preexisting article with some words switched around. IH didn't get permission to do this, and generally failed to give credit. Interestingly, this is the only instance of plagiarism HB's team found on his channel, and it's still unknown why IH chose to basically adapt an existing author when he's established that he's a perfectly capable writer himself. I kind of hope we get some kind of explanation from IH at some point.
It sucks that IH did this, but at least he's not making money off the video anymore (frankly, he should send whatever he made off of it to the original author). I'm still going to watch his stuff, but it's a bummer for sure.
No. 1937356
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James somerton has locked down his twitter and disabled comments on his YouTube. It seems this patreon post (that I found on twitter) is his only public statement.
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Lol
No. 1937495
>>1937453>yikesWow that's so heckin
sus and cringe y'all uwu
No. 1937511
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>>1937338Apparently people are going through more of IH’s shit and finding more plagiarism
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>>1937545I dunno it seems fake to me because he just using as a shield from his audience since he’s a “straight white cis male” and that’s the kind of identity politics the circles he runs in cater to.
>>1937549LMAO EWWW he’s an ugly TiM too but hbomb isn’t much of a looker himself but come on his clout could probably land him a better partner. Ugly ass Shaun got a decent shoop abusing ginger. I thought this was Peter coffin’s ex Ashley but she’s not idk tho
No. 1937669
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>>1937654How the hell did anyone buy into this garbage? Even the most brain-dead breadtrubr consumer should have the common sense to see that the majority of these claims are bullshit. the rest of the bullshit claims – they're just as nonsensical. most of these are bizarre, perverted fantasies.
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>>1937654I know it was obvious but lmaoooo
No. 1937675
>>1937654I quite like the way he talks about media.
But when he digs even a bit deeper into the context or politics or culture, he just MISSES everything.
When it comes to his analysis of cultures he's unfamiliar with, it all comes off as "boohoo i am smart and white, but no one likes me because i am fat, please fuck me someone, i am sooooooo smart and throw some money atme because ou pity me because i can't get it up the ass, because i am actually an insufferable cunt irl teehee" when all the cultural analysis he has seems like just his own batshit conclusions that came to him in a fever dream.
No. 1937677
>>1937669>>1937672How do these faggots feel so entitled to thousands of dollars a month for half assed bullshit video essays?
Their audience is made up of “queer and mento illness” identity badge collecting zoomers who have grown up consuming content endlessly and take the word of the creators as gospel and spread it around in their hugboxes as irrefutable facts.
I hate both these groups the coddled faggots and the edgelord retards who find IH’s juvenile 4chan humor as top tier.
>>1937658I can’t believe that’s actually Ashley coffin. No wonder Peter has been excommunicated from their circle. I remember hontra and co retweeting Peter’s shit and then suddenly stopping. These freaks are so milky but I don’t think I have the patience to collect more shit on my own. I also noticed out of all the breadtubers that hbomb and Shaun only follow her back.
No. 1937678
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>>1937654(1)
Glad to see people see this misogynistic views too, this fag thinks just because he read some yaoi WRITTEN BY WOMEN he knows better what yaoi culture was, fudanshi have existed but the yaoi subculture was made for women by women. You can clearly see what yaoi is written by gay men and what is written by women. I hate this fag moid so much
No. 1937684
>>1937678Oh, and that too.
What rubbed me the wrong way when he was talking about yaoi specifically, was that yaoi was for GAY MEN, not those weird straight women. Despite every one of the yaoi works he reviewed being written BY straight and bi/lesbian women for other straight/bi/lesbian women.
Way to try to spin an attempt at analyzing a work as a serious gay man issue/topic, when you review something that was explicitly written for the "icky" women you gloss over every time if not outright just start bashing.
My man. Yaoi was always by women for women. BL as well. Most moids who create gay things, just do porn. Bara doujinshi and the like.
Sure, gay men would read BL of course, but it's not really about them or for them. It's about the way WOMEN interact with masculinity and same-sex-attraction and romance. Same goes for most fanfiction.
No. 1937742
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>>1934539She doesn't even edit her own videos she hires someone else to do it.
>because she can't make a coherent point without dragging it out for so long that by the time she gets to the end of it, you've forgotten how the point even started. Because her videos are like essays that got dragged out because of a word count she had to reach.
No. 1937842
>>1937808Just cause you got blowback doesn't mean their against the point
nonnie, chill
No. 1937892
>>1937880If you watch the first couple minutes of todd's video he sums it up.
Basically amounts to youtubers knowing what eachother is doing and todd falling into a simultaneous wormhole. No greater anti-james agenda, just that sommerton is that big of a hack.
No. 1938021
>>1937808girl nobody is stanning moids here, looking at the responses you got annoyed at this is straight up that "if you say you like pancakes someone is gonna assume you hate waffles" shit. Plagiarism is shit and I doubt anybody here is ok with youtubers stealing other's work. Especially when most here get annoyed when people obviously steal from our threads for their videos instead of doing their own research.
>>1937952while I think todd flounders on topics he's not totally educated on (and you can tell who he watches and his biases, especially cause he used to date Lindsay Elis), I tend to like when he voices his opinion on topics because he seems to come from a more level headed place even when I disagree. Probably cause he mostly does song reviews and album/artist retrospectives so politics isn't eating his brain 24/7. Honestly I think more breadtubers need a hobby that is divorced from politics and the mainstream zeitgeist. For all her faults I actually tended to like Lindsay's videos too and appreciate her more since she's been gone. She didn't actually talk politics 24/7. Her Phantom video was hilarious and she knew not to take herself too seriously sometimes which I rarely see in any breadtubers now. Nowadays if you see someone try and be lindsay by throwing in film retrospectives they make 2 hour videos where they present very personal readings and interpretations of the media as absolute fact. These kids probably wouldn't be able to handle the idea that a book like Fahrenheit 451 wasn't intended to be about censorship and you can certainly read it multiple ways.
You can tell most of breadtube were former high school students whose best class was english but different schools across the world clearly have different standards of education kek.
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>>1937654so it gets even deeper with dan olson talking about some stuff he noticed about james
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>>1938161This part really stood out, with all that hating women talk it's no wonder he thinks we need state sponsored rape.
No. 1938198
>>1938181Hes so smug and weird looking. I cringed watching him in those costumes with his neck fat hanging over while he made this retarded "smart" or "sexy" voice. He probably does come at straight white moids but you really can feel the hate he has for women. He'll add the "straight white women" bit but he just hates all of us. Us existing at all is a threat to him. Even when he talks about lesbians its so he can seethe at somebody he doesn't seem as passionate as his shit sbout gay scrote issues. Question, is this what contrapoints type videos are like? Gay dudes in ugly costumes and sets smugly talking at the camera? I never watched one but holy shit i hate that kinds shit if so.
If James wasn't gay I'd think he was a seething incel hiding behind being super liberal to shit on the women who don't want him.
His hate for white women seems so personal.
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>>1938221This lady
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/big-redShe became every edgelord’s straw man for feminism, leftist politics, and etc.
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>>1937000>>1937654What I can't comprehend is, what the hell did he gain from it? Channels like the iilluminaughtii were just in it for the money (which I can tolerate), mindlessly repeating content from documentaries or wikipedia without an ounce of creatively or acknowledgment. But Somerton's didn't stop there, he shamelessly plagiarized and then spewed these weird takes, spouting off about shit that even the biggest moron should know are pure garbage, like claiming that Nazis invented fitness or the ridiculous notion that AIDs wiped out all the great artists from the 90's, leading to the crappiness of 90's culture (according to james). These claims were so absurdly false that any sane person who watched one of his videos would've recognized he was spewing pure crap, it was painfully obvious, like he was asking to be called out.
No. 1938400
>>1938385They were just his shit opinions that he was trying to pass off as fact. Especially the fat cope video. You toss nazis into anything and retards eat it up. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of his audience were fat shut ins who used mommy’s credit card to pay for their patreon subscriptions. Sommerton was echoing that their unhealthy tendie life style is was ok because fitness is for nazis.
Misogyny is really rampant in breadtube especially with troons and fags using the evil “straight cis white woman”boogeyman. The fact hbomb called that excuse out makes me wonder if they’ll will be a tide change in being able to call out troons and faggots for misogyny?
No. 1938434
>>1938161Yikes, he totally scammed his followers. Also I have to say, people who think buying the best technical equipment results in better talent are some of the funniest idiots out there.
>>1938400Back in the early buzzfeed days I remember a video that was a gay dude calling out the misogyny in the gay community. It used to be a well known thing before extreme faghaggery took over around. I hope it comes back into acceptance because the conversation needs to be had. I mean it's still acceptable for gay moids to refer to women as "fishy", regardless of intent it's a disgusting term based on jealousy and hatred that needs to stop. Even "serving cunt" is a better one cause at least it's referencing female anatomy directly (and implies beauty is a women's thing kek)
No. 1938563
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I just endured watching a video by ThoughtSlime, where they attempted to explain why 'leftists who dare to deviate from being absolute morons and actually try to appeal to the majority of people' are fundamentally terrible human beings'. According to this genius, having a discussion with them is utterly futile. On one hand, he claims that the average person fully supports issues like trans rights, but then argues that we shouldn't even bother seeking the support of the average person, because apparently, only a marginalized population can bring about revolutions. His brilliant idea is that no leftist group should ever allow so-called 'bigots' (which he conveniently defines as 90% of average people) to join, otherwise, they would be just as bad as the far-right.
No. 1938616
>>1937654I rarely lurk this thread so I don't know who these people are, but the guy in the live action footage sounds like he is about to cry whenever he talks and the peanut avatar guy talks with an annoying drawl. Regardless i hate when video essayists don't source to their claims. It feels like they are deliberately spreading missinformation. I'm glad it's being called out.
By the way whats up with the comments on the video saying queerphobia instead of homophobia? people would rather die than admit that gays are discriminated because of the same sex attraction
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No. 1938862
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>>1937000it's a good video, but a big piece of the puzzle that he deliberately ignores is that James was able to thrive despite his videos being nonsense because the quality of almost all 'queer' youtube videos and articles are incredibly poor, just navel gazing bullshit by people who have no idea what they're talking about. He linked a list of youtube videos by 'queer creators' in the comments, and just fucking look at them
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRGz5EMig3r2ZDgeGzwUlSz-PzF-L1Xu1 No. 1938873
>>1937000RE:internet historian, I don't like the guy at all (if you're going to stan a racist youtuber who hates women sseth is a lot funnier), but I did think it was weird that hbomberguy acted like his fans were insane for archiving all his deleted videos when that's a pretty normal thing to happen with a decent-sized youtube channel, especially one that's prone to deleting stuff.
Also thought it was weird that he pretended rebecca sugar is a they/them when she's actually a she/they to make it look like Somerton committed the brutal hate crime of misgendering, felt dishonest.
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>>1938862losing it at the terrifying profile pic of one of the hulking weeb trannies in that playlist
No. 1939058
>>1938862Is there anyone who actually care about these topics and "powerful visibility" that aren't terminally online shut in retards, emphasis on the shut-in? Specifically people who spent their formative years developing and training their literal brain neurons like an AI model to be primed on tumblr discourse? I'm not straight either or whatever but whenever I get these queer centric videos in my recommended somehow it's always terrible. Queer reading this, queer reading that, queer read a job posting and get off of social media.
>>1938873Hasn't Rebecca specifically stated she's a nonbinary
woman? Oh, the horror.
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>>1938862>looks at playlist>36 videos>not a single video under 10 minutes>5 videos over an hour long>video of Lola Sebastian awkwardly showing her leg like Melissa McCarthy>Maggie Mae Fish pretending T.S. Elliot's poetry book about cats is actually a fascist dog whistle>CJ The X being the most annoying person to ever existBrainrot.
No. 1939086
>>1939080Samefag. For context, CJ The X made a 42-minute video claiming Spider-Man: No Way Home was "sexist". 95% of said video is only tangentially related to his argument, and his argument boils down to:
>Peter Parker disobeyed MJ's wish to be reminded of him, so… SEXISM!The fact that people like this are able to thrive on YouTube and be taken seriously makes me want to crawl into a hole and die.
No. 1939360
>>1938862This is such an important point and its so good you bring this up because I've been thinking the same thing. James' videos are popular because they appeal to the kweer communities endless persecution complex as well as their raging misogyny.
Straight women are always the villain in each of his videos. Its always the prissy uptight straight white karens sabotaging the fun and creativity of the noble troons and queerios. This intrinsically appeals to pretty much everyone who identifies as queer
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>queer Black Hades/Persephone reimagining!
Tell me you failed Greek myths without telling me. Persephone was abducted against her will by Hades, she didn't go to the Underground because she was in love with Hades.
No. 1939720
>>1939360For me, the weirdest woman hating accusation of his was between
>straight women totally watched a couple episodes of Red White & Royal Blue (very openly a homo show), and were scandalized, because women are too stupid to understand the sacred act of anal sexor,
>evil straight women attacked him and wanted him dead, all for saying Yuri On Ice is gayYuri On Ice. The series made by a straight woman and made for fujoshi. He thought that women hated it.
No. 1939880
>>1937000Eh, I'm watching this right now and I didn't feel HBG was any harder on IH than he was the other guys. I mean if he can make fun of Filip for being a talentless hack, then why not also make fun of IH having a cringe fanbase?
But anyway. If James Somerton ever got brave enough to show his face on the internet again after this, he could be deserving of his own thread.
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Bro deleted all his videos
No. 1940029
>>1939880Idk what nonna was on when she wrote that post because half of the people hbg goes after are leftist and he treats everyone pretty much the same. If anything he's slightly easier on IH than on the others
The worst thing about that video is how many times hbg claims to be bisexual and constantly talks of "our community" when he mentions anything lgbt. Has he ever actually earnestly dated a man? The only thing I can imagine is that he's memed himself into wanting to fuck tims, like a lot of other very online men. But I wouldn't call that bisexuality because that's just good old porn influenced perversion
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the absolute irony
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>>1937654So Todd mentions in this that James lied about how Neil and Terry met in his Good Omens video (which is such a pointless thing to make up, btw). Well, I guess someone told Neil about… all of this, because he had this to say about it. Not an auspicious beginning for James' film career.
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>>1940187samefag, thought I'd add that this post was in response to Chuck Tingle of all people sharing HBomb's video on Tumblr.
No. 1940196
>>1940185I don’t understand how anyone likes him enough to keep up decent viewership. Even if you’ve drank the troon koolaid, he has such an unsettling narcissistic aura. It was always there, but post transition it’s really obvious. It’s radiating off of him from the thumbnail alone and his “acting” just makes me uncomfortable. Too stage act-y if he ever wants to be serious about film.
Say what you will about Contra, but I do pity him for being the subject of obsession and skinwalking from this terrifying de-aged lady doubtfire
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Destiny is divorcing Melina
No. 1940311
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>>1940310These were the messages Destiny sent explaining why
No. 1940457
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>'jennifer's body' meets 'euphoria'>starring philosophytubegrown-ass tranny men and larping as sexualized teenage girls, name a more horrifying yet constantly recurring duo.
https://variety.com/2023/streaming/news/abigail-thorn-draculas-ex-girlfriend-nebula-1235811750/ No. 1940466
>>1940432idk about that, but a significant amount of his fans' response to this has been fucking insane. People aren't allowed to dislike their daddy for any reason.
why tf does he have such an invested fanbase anyway? I've only heard of him until now, and if you asked me what his content is I would have told you that it sounds like he's one of those guys who makes videos about lolcows. Is he doing more than that? I've seen JP fanboy levels of investment since the hbomb video dropped.
No. 1940468
>>1940190the fan response of any of the creators involved in this video are retarded. I don't understand why people think they need to pledge allegiance to creators instead of just enjoying content. I like hbomb videos generally and just skip past all the tranny dicksucking he does bc i don't know him and I'm there for the video not him
Youtube really has the worst parasocial fans out there
No. 1940496
>>1940185I felt as if there was subtext to the plagarism video about hbomb being sick of all the breadtube hangers on, with Somerton only being the most blatant example.
Now, hbomb may not count PT as one of these. But I always got a 'friend nobody likes' vibe from him. And that even within the inner circles they thought PT's decision to transition was weird. And there is a slight call out against blatant contra imitators in the video.
It's easy to see why he might be annoyed. Before 'breadtube' was a word, back in 2015/16, it was basically just hbomb making videos about the manosphere and these videos would get absolutely spammed with dislikes and negative comments. It was not something you could go into assuming you'd become popular or have any sort of fanbase, let alone financial reward.
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>>1940196>Even if you’ve drank the troon koolaid, he has such an unsettling narcissistic aurathis baffles me too. he doesn't even have a sense of humour or broad entertainment value, his observations are dull and whiney, there is ZERO charm. but narcs always have a way of pulling people into their self-centered world somehow.
>>1940457kek the other project that he worked on with Nebula was picrel with jessie gender.
>>1940472or maybe james will troon out and start complaining about 'men' too.
No. 1940508
>>1940154That too. The Persepolis/Hades thing is more related to weather changes, but at this rate anything related to the pairing written by non-Greek is just "a woman makes a man to learn how to love after to escape from her
abusive mom".
In that book one of them is also a trans character. How can't you just make an original story without taking Hellenic's religion and lore up your ass, still amuses me.
No. 1940558
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Speaking of jessie gender, he recently made this joke in his 2-hour long barbie critique video essay (which is longer than the movie btw). But the fact that he jokes causally about sissy porn, just says way more than it needs to.
No. 1940601
>>1940304I had the exact same experience
nonnie. I scrolled through tons of comments because I was so confused at how obviously his voice it was but either no one noticed or GenoSamuel deletes the comments that do. Either way I just kek'd and filed it away. I wish I knew the exact episode to post it here
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>>1940558yes James, we know you're coom-brained, there is no need to keep reminding us! also his AGP smirk in the thumbnail of this video, where he spends over an hour trying to explain how he isn't a biological male, using meaningless word salad
No. 1940622
Xiran Jay Zhao is at the centre of some strange book drama. She herself is not the cow in this situation but made a series of tweets vagueposting about the cow in order to give her a chance to apologise for trying to sabotage upcoming authors without ruining her reputation by naming her. She didn't make amends with the authors she reviewbombed and now Zhao has named her in this tiktok
No. 1940724
>>1937654>Dracula is not based on Vlad Tepes because Gizmo article and my quirky vamp goth friend say soRead the damn book, you damn illiterate troglodyte. In Chapter 3, Stoker states that Dracula had a traitorous brother that was sprung for the Ottomans. It is pretty obvious he is somewhat based on Vlad.
Even my father know this and the man hasn't touched a book since college.
Imagine trying to debunk this fat pig and not doing a basic google check to make sure your sources aren't also full of shit.
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>>1940622>Hades is a Black casino owner and Persephone is a trans Black aerial dancer. It sounds pretty cool.What in Zeus's harem is this? another Netflix adaptation?
No. 1940802
>>1940777Thank you so much for finding it
nonnie! I knew I wasn't crazy, it sounds even more obviously like him than I remembered. I hope one of the breadtubers whips this out and acts like they've made the discovery of the century so we can know who lurks here
No. 1940804
>>1940724It's literally stated in the book by Van Helsing that Dracula is likely Vlad Tepes
>“He must, indeed, have been that Viovode(grand-prince) Dracula, who won his name against the Turks, over the great river, on the very frontier of Turkey-land.” - Dracula, Ch. 18The claim that he wasn't Vlad seems to come from an article by Lauren Davis, who claims that Stoker didn't even know about Vlad Tepes, when he clearly did and had a main character make that connection.
No. 1940982
>>1940980>Are you guys voice blind?no. are YOU? this is
very clearly an American attempting to do a British accent. there is no new zealand accent whatsoever. Yes, the cadence is kinda similar but that's about it.
No. 1941501
>>1941351The difference is, he didn't actually
tell anyone that that's what he was doing. He didn't mention the article as a source at all, despite sticking very closely to it in his script and in some places even reading it off verbatim as if it were his own writing and research. Those reddit post youtubers though are very upfront about their source material, everyone knows that they didn't write what they're reading/reacting to (although whether reaction content = theft is a whole 'nother can of worms). So even though the animation is original, him trying to pass off the OG author's work in the script as his own is the problem (and is the dictionary definition of plagiarism).
No. 1941905
>>1940622Well, that was fast.
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>>1941905There's some legit news outlets picking this up now.
The wild thing is, the ARCs for A Crown of Starlight were actually getting pretty good reviews before all this happened. If you check Goodreads, there was some genuine hype for this book. And she really nuked all of that over some petty jealousy.
No. 1942255
>>1942245>says people being upset about surrogacy are being emotional, directly compares them to people who are against sex-work.love the self awareness of "sex work is work" idiots, yes renting a woman to rape and renting a women to have a baby are similar!
>asserts that surrogacy isn't bleak because the women involved are not in any dangerthis is literally untrue since surrogacy pregnancies are riskier. love to know these men don't have to do any research or know anything.
No. 1942274
>>1942245>acknowledges that surrogacy has issues, but attributes them to capitalism rather than the separation of children from their mothers.ok but even pretending that was the only issue, that still makes them assholes for taking part while we are in an unrestricted capitalist world and not taking any effort to care about the mom. Also the irony is there's this he/they fag that has been ranting about shane for years and even he brings up the mom being totally whitewashed from the picture this whole pregnancy with a lack of gratitude or understanding on their part.
>>1942258he's like yms who states he's for beastiality if the animal "isn't harmed" but then ignores all the evidence people sent him showing there was no situation where the animal isn't harmed psychologically at least. "sex work" and surrogacy are not the same as an exploitative corpo job by any metrics yet he'll ignore what doesn't suit his worldview
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Trans Breadtuber Sophie From Mars is being called out for abuse. First time I’ve seen a call out post have multiple signatures on it. 1/3
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>>1942291Sophie’s response. I’m sorry for the ugly Reddit water marks. I didn’t want to dig through X to get original caps and Sophie isn’t really a very relevant enough breadtuber for this to cause a stir.
3/3
No. 1942299
>>1942291>an investigation would make us all unsafekek, yeah I bet you wouldn't want an investigation team to look into your community
>>1942292he seems very happy he only got a public call-out. The physical scarring part seems pretty fucked, wonder if he was one of those guys who'd get someone in bed then abuse his partner and claim it was bdsm afterwards
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>>1942291>Alice Caldwell-Kelly holy fuck it's the white TIM that transitioned into a muslim woman, best friends with Olly of philosophytube. Wonder if PT will react to this
No. 1942312
>>1942292ever since i watched this video a nona posted
>>1813084 i've been waiting for some allegations to surface about Eric "I'm going to wipe my hands on my penis" McCallister. he is so clearly predatory and
abusive.
>>1942306>wonder how PT will reacthe will make it about himself, in a 2 hour long video
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>>1942311the other farms has all the dirt on him, but I'm not sure what their current clearnet url is. I'll attach a couple of caps that are still floating around.
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>>1942299read the tweets accompanying the first screencap, he was burning them with cigarettes
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>>1942334he also has a nsfw furry twitter where he uploads his dick and his fursona crossdressing. He's 100% a zoophile.
No. 1942554
>>1941984Now she's dealing with the consequences of calling out.
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>>1942290This was under the tweet that outted the troon for abuse
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>>1940028Looks like he forgot about his second channel though lmao
If anyone cares to watch it, here it is (for now):
https://www.youtube.com/@AThousandTinyTantrums/featured No. 1942756
>>1942245lord help me, I want a-log this freak so bad
Amazing how progressive polices require a female slave class to inflict misery on?
No. 1942956
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>>1942819a summary of his "joking" about pedophilia (they were not jokes, just him making light of his creepiness). i tried to find a clip of the audio to share but couldn't source it, it's around somewhere though
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