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Marilyn Manson #1 : Fuck You Edition:>>951424
Marilyn Manson #2 : Chin of Sin Edition:>>958209
Marilyn Manson #3: In Search of Lost Tooth Edition:>>969968
Marilyn Manson #4: Fake PR Moves Edition:>>982539
Marilyn Manson #5:>>1012472
Marilyn Manson #6: Baby Manson Time Edition:>>1081947
Marilyn Manson #7: Honeymoon Edition:>>1138599
Old thread bio updated.
By popular request, one unified thread to collect all milk on Marilyn Manson, 52-year-old drug addict, washed-up rocker, serial abuser, and rapist still trying to live vicariously through his glory days of the 90s when he was still young and the drugs hadn't completely fried his brain.
>Accused by multiple ex-girlfriends, including Evan Rachel Wood, of rape, physical, sexual/emotional abuse, torture, forced confinement, and forced drug use.>Uses his barely legal fanbase to find young girls to groom, abuse, and take advantage of while dangling the same one liners of helping with their careers, putting them in a music video, or wanting a serious relationship.>Long term on-and-off relationship with Lindsay Usich, 35 year old NEET and Dita skinwalker who met him when she was 25 and has been implicated in verbal abuse and stalking herself, using his phone to send nasty message to other women he is dating or friends with, and being violent to fans.>Publicly talked about wanting to beat Evan Rachel Wood's skull in with a sledgehammer.>May or may not be using multiple sockpuppet emails to harass and stalk girls. Also alleged to have fake Model Mayhem account to find 18 year old girls to groom under the guise of photographing them.>May have had a sexual relationship with Lilith Levisis (also a cow; see thread) when she was underage, and tried to pit her against his other girlfriend at the time, Gabriella (@sourgirrrl).>Has an assistant (sockpuppet?) named Judd who has been implicated in verbal and emotional abuse and stalking towards young girls.>Got liposuction and tried to claim the bruises were from being beat up by Lindsay.>Torpedoed his marriage to Dita Von Teese over 10+ years ago and is still trying to remake every girl he dates into her image.
No significant social media links, except for the official @marilynmanson.
Lindsay Usich's instagram is @lindsayusichofficial, comments disabled.
Discussed in First Thread:>Receipts from multiple accounts discussing accusations of abuse/assault by Evan Rachel Wood, Esme Bianco, Clare Buley, Louise Keay Bell, and Ashley Morgan.>Harassment and death threats from Manson and his orbiters including ex-assistant Judd and anonymous “online troops.”>Horrorshow performances from Lindsay and her mother, Hope Harvey, harassing and talking shit about and to Manson fans.>A discussion about who is the controlling one in Manson and Lindsay's relationship.>@mansonisabusive kindly shared many receipts and info.>Paranoia and suspicion a-go-go about the general circus that surrounds El Chinno Manson and his Hollywood Hareem.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>951424
Discussed in Second Thread:>More receipts, maybe from trolls, maybe from genuine victims of abuse.>Lindsay concentrates all of her efforts into sharing updates from blissful quarantine cohabitation: plants, cats, and the usual boring posts, but most importantly – usually flashing what looks like an engagement ring.>Also shares a post from her cousin, who speaks of an encounter with Manson, when he referred to Lindsay as his “fiancé.”>Farmers work out this anecdote actually reveals that the engagement happened around six years ago.>It's decided that Madelyn is a deluded pick me, although entertaining. Farmers made a half-hearted attempt not to give her any more airtime as she self-posts and encourages orbiters to post.>A slew of other batshit fans come to light.>@mansonisabusive IG account visits and shares very interesting caps. We thank her.>Still waiting for the @666fearless full story.>Die Antwoord/Zheani/Manson connection is mentioned. Zheani has dirt on Manson, but no one knows what.>Discussion of Linday's catfish accounts including Ticklish Witch, Mina Lowry, and multiple others.>Talk of a super-fan turned super-hater, Tiziana Collins, aka Titti, and whether she faked her own death to return as her own mother.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the second thread for:>>958209
Discussed in Third Thread:>Receipts Lindsay fought with ex-side-chick, Viktoria (Twitter: @LaPetitMort_), and made her personal information public via her Twitter.>Receipts from Viktoria's twitter of Manson talking shit about John 5 (with whom he was about to tour).>Extensive evidence of Lindsay's full-of-cheap-bots followership, poor PR, and desperate attempts to build a fake last-minute career for her.>Manson and Lindsay's engagement announcement (with zero media coverage no matter how hard they tried).>Louise Keay Bell, one of the victims, came to the thread to milk her trauma and change the narrative of her experience with Manson when no one had been talking about her.>Receipts Manson sent legal threats to Louise Keay Bell and more of her and Jessicka Adams claiming Lindsay grooms underage girls for Manson.>A social statement of Louise Keay Bell saying Lindsay was part of Manson's sexual assaults.>Even though Louise Keay Bell was very vocal on her recent abuse case when nobody actually asked her, she was not brave enough to address anything from the above.>Proof of staff molesting female fans and abusing their position.>Michelle's (@666fearless) abuse case was fully revealed. Some anons questioned her credibility.>More evidence of his abusive, toxic, racist, misogynistic behavior from various interviews.>Proof that Manson forces his orbiters to sign NDAs.>Poor fake and full of shit PR moves.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>969968
Discussed in Fourth Thread:>A video of Manson admitting to fucking underage girls on stage.>Madelyn was accused by anons of sitting outside of Manson's house in her car on Lindsay's birthday. A photo Madelyn had taken of herself in her car and a few of Hope Harvey's tweets (quoted) from before she went private were posted as proof.>Questioning why Hope went private in the first place. Deduced that Manson's lawyer probably reached out to her because she was sharing too much personal information.>Talk of an account (@_noname666_) that commented on one of Madelyn's posts, mocking her and her “relationship” with Manson.>Suspicion of whether he and Lindsay are already married or not after he posted a photo on his IG page, wearing what looked like a wedding band with the caption, “The Price of Darkness.”>Receipts of now deleted hate accounts and subscriptions that Louise Keay Bell posted. @666fearless was also being harassed. Both blamed Judd/Manson for it.>Screens from a website claiming Lindsay had a “baby bump.” Debunked as a hoax.>Dawn (@miss_dangerx, @guitargunn, @dawn.slays and possible other accounts) splurging and accusing Manson of being a pedophile. Also claims that he had a fake FB account (Mark Peak II) and harassed her, using her personal phone number. Was passed off as a troll.>@_noname666_ joined the thread for a bit, revealing that Manson's was (allegedly) formally diagnosed with both bipolar and narcissistic disorders. He was prescribed lithium that he sometimes forgets to take, which is supposed to be an excuse for his behavior. They also alluded to Manson being Lindsay's financial supporter and main source of income, even during periods where they weren't living together.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>982539
Discussed in Fifth Thread:>Manson finally released his single, “We Are Chaos.”>Speculations that Manson/Lindsay post in the threads after someone dropped a private picture of Lindsay. Anons couldn't find a source.>Screens from Reddit of people saying that Twiggy/Manson had sex with them while they were underage.>An anonymous ex-side-chick leaked some messages and shared some information on Manson. She claimed Lindsay harassed her during the entire period of their relationship via fake IG accounts. Anons finally got an answer to what “Baby Manson Time” is.>The full album was finally released. Lyrics are derivative of his older works and most of the songs read as digs against his accusers/Lindsay.>@mansonisabusive finally made their account public again.>Lindsay posted in her story that her mother, Hope Harvey, passed away. Cows made sure to milk her death as much as possible.>Their marriage was confirmed in an interview he did with Nicolas Cage.>Manson incriminates himself after hanging up on a journalist and refusing to answer any more questions after being asked about the Evan Rachel Wood situation. Rose McGowan posted screens of a message she sent Manson in her story on IG and tagged Evan, claiming she, “wouldn't be used as a shield,” not long after.>A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1012472
Discussed in Sixth Thread:>Evidence of Lindsay supporting hate accounts.>Laney Chantal shares her opinion on the situation. Caps of her liking some of @mansonisabusive's posts were posted.>Lindsay getting fan accounts to harass anyone that speaks out against them.>Edwin Costa makes a video covering Manson's history.>Proof that Manson cheated on Rose with Dita.>More comments from one of Lindsay's abandoned IG accounts, @lindsay.usich, saying that she was never a photographer before she met him.>Edwin Costa's Twitter and Louise Keay Bell's Facebook accounts were hacked. Anons speculated that Manson was involved.>Cow tries to repair all of his damaged past relationships in an attempt to find allies.>A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1081947
Discussed in Seventh Thread:>Evan Rachel Wood finally names Manson as her abuser, along with a ton of other women.>Victims saying that Lindsay participated in the abuse.>Loma Vista, his long-time record label, drops him following the accusations. Starz also cuts him from American Gods and Creepshow.>Lindsay's still buying bots. Up to 3k new followers a day.>Caps from Leslee Lane's Discord server of her saying Lindsay was asking for incriminating pictures of Evan.>Underage girls accuse Manson of grooming them on Kik.>Judd was supposedly never fired.>An ex-fan explains how he picks up young girls at meet and greets.>Welfare check called to Manson's house.>A whole ton of stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1138599
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another underage story
What da f?
What if that was Lindsay? I don't want her to die! I want too see her in prison.
She's the weak link in Warner's mess. She better cover her arse and go talk to the police and do some plea deal bargaining shit but looks like she does not have a brain to work with soooo>>1152215
And police did not investigate further? This is concerning.
But she doesn't act like she's been abused. That doesn't mean that women who don't seem like victims
aren't, but most abuse survivors would never do what their abuser did to them or help them. She's a bad person, regardless of what he did/does to her. And I don't think she should be allowed to leave. She should face the repercussions just like he's going to.
She knew what was going on, I am sure she's read a lot of Evan's posts since 2016, it's impossible she failed to draw parallels between her experience of Manson and Evan's. I believe she made her mind to not to be his victim
and be part of that romantic (not) bs she's been pulling lately. She had the audacity to gather pictures to further blackmail Evan (or to silence her, we will never know the truth). Anybody who believes she shouldn't be held accountable is delusional.
We all read victims
' stories, he inevitably loses interest in every new victim
after a while. I do believe MM ditched Lindsay many many times, she chose
to stay. Unlike many of his victims
, she actually had a lawyer dad who could help her but nah, never happened. Instead she used her resources to trade for a better (ofc questionably from the point of view of a sane person) position. She must be investigated as his accomplice.
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Some anon came in threads and threads ago claiming to know.have worked with him and stated that ONLY reason he married her was because she was blackmailing him was incriminating material. Also as a married couple she cannot be compelled to testify against him.
on the subject from the last thread about his personal appearance, he was never going to be a male model but he clearly looked better as skinny person with some edgy charisma and witty references then a greasy, drugged out landwhale with missing teeth.
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This randomly popped up in a fitness group I am in on Facebook (they were all discussing about taking Manson off of playlists).
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Otep spoke up about his relationship with His now wife
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The music industry is renowned for being toxic
as fuck. Wasn't Red hot chilli peppers in the eye of the (admittedly small) storm of sexual abuse allegations from someone who was working for their label? Brian Warner's case might be the pandora box opened for the music industry.>>1152284
Good on them for leaving
so fucking happy she spoke out, just one more reason that i love this woman so fucking much.
lindsay abuse confirmed. i don't think he's ever had a relationship where he didn't hurt his gf. and yes, that includes dita, no matter how much schadenfreude she might feel that evan was hurt worse by him than she was.
But like other people have already said, he tried to get rid of her for years. It's her fault this is happening because she had a ton of chances to leave and she chose
to stay with him, even when he puts her through shit like that. Maybe it's her repentance for helping him.
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Update from Jordan Arentz aka Saint Sashaa.
Ok but…you don’t actually know that. The text she sent him that fearless capped that turned into the infamous “break up letter” sounded like her trying to leave him. You have no idea why she kept coming back and for all we know HE pulled her back every time like he did with Evan. That’s really common with narcissists. I bet anything she tried to leave and got the same 158 phone calls in a row. Mixed in with the fact that she’s very insecure/unstable and probably not a great person to begin with, he really found the perfect combo of someone who he could always get back whenever he wanted after the other girls left him. You don’t have to dismiss how shitty she is but the idea that she could’ve left him but didn’t can apply to any one of his victims
and it’s not cool.
Just speculation but i honestly feel like theres something that's still not being told. The post above by SaintSashaa implies something horrific. And someone else (i cant remember what her name was) who said that she told him terrifying things too.
I get the feeling people are legitimately scared of him. Since a lot of what he's said in interviews seems to be true, it might be that he genuinely knows some very dangerous people, or he may be straight up fucking psychotic.
So true. I don't blame them but so true. There has to be a failed victim
who kicked his ass out there. I hope she exists.>>1152371
There's a ton of stuff that implies she used the dirt she had on him to stay rather than leave for good. I know technically she's a victim
but I couldn't care less.
I don't mean that it's not hard for victims
to leave because it isn't, but he was actively trying to get rid of her for years. She harassed his other girlfriends the whole time he was with them and fought to keep her place, not to mention the blackmail rumors. She wanted to stay.
But what could he possibly have on people that would be so bad that you wouldn’t just tell him to fuck off out of it.
Don’t get me wrong, I completely understand being under the control of a narcissistic manipulator, and true, he may have had his dodgy blackmail dossiers, but was there really not one person who could have told him to stfu and wind his neck in? I guess not.
says, I wonder if there’s one that got away who proverbially kicked him in the nads at the time.
Sad but true.
Don't ban me, dear mod, I won't be naughty again.
I want statements from Poppy and Lady Gaga, who were both inspired by him, and Halsey, yes.
Soooo many people have giant tats of Manson or his symbols. This is why you don't tattoo people on yourself unless you know them or they've been dead for decades.
yeap I was the one who brhought up about Genesis (it doesn't matter since I'm anon anyway lel)
>At least their music was better than Manson still cosplaying a teenager in his 40s.
True, beside all the worst that happened, they were a revolution to music, Manson is just a copycat of everyone he used to listen.
Chipping in about Porridge. Cba to reel off past fandom and encounters, so just saying there's a FB group called GENESIS SURVIVORS. Ex PTV Fred Giannelli runs it and he loathed GPO. Lots of bile on the group. Paula's a member btw. As dodgy as his ~art~ was, in his company Gen just came across as manipulative, acid fried and a scammer. Never heard any stories of activities with children. Paula's very respectful, but I feel she was manipulated heavily by him from the beginning. She was a teen working on a checkout when he went after her. Really that's the only thing I thought was concerning.
That's all. Just a heads up if anyone wants to look at posts there. You'll need to scroll a bit. Fred posts videos, but since porridges death, not much activity.(derailing)
Narcissists use a tactic called triangulation, when they're manipulating two people at once, and making one of them jealous of the other by praising them and building them up in public, while the other one gets abused in private. Then they switch.
He posted a picture of Gabriella with two other girls right when they started their relationship, presumably to hurt some other woman. Gabriella has the entire story up on her ig, @sourgirrrl.
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>>1152605>Most of these celebrities are pedos and praise satan.
Too much Icke. All the symbolism of paedos, freemasonry, Project Monarch are done to death. Celebs play up on it. >>1152617
Wall's have it as their logo. Omg, ice cream van men all love children.
When people use this ridiculousness, it lowers the impact of legit claims. Why bring in that bs when there are claims without the wacko speculation?
The Freemasons have specifically renounced Manson, stating that he was never a member. He likes to borrow a lot of imagery that he doesn't understand. I'd be more worried about the Nazi shit on his chest and arms.
Freemasons also aren't a big pedo club, they're just an old boys club where they make pancakes and complain about arthritis. They used to be powerful half a century ago, but these days they're just a very, very lame club for old farts and nerds. Lots of celebs use Illuminati imagery, but it's just a superficial pop interest in the occult.
And that heart symbol is called a twisted heart and it has nothing to do with pedos, it's just a shitty logo designed for a shitty era. >>1152626
and evidently stolen from ice cream.
Was Marilyn Manson trying to tell us something about his toxic
relationships with ice cream? Something to do with how fat he got?
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For some reason this is low key hilarious.
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I love how he had this pic up on Instagram of the Roman Polanski suite and took it down recently. But no, nothing to hide here.
Yes exactly. Over the years he really hasn’t hid his obsession of men with a preference for teenage girls- Polanski, Lewis Carroll, Humbert Humbert. How dumb do you have to be to make that a part of your persona.
Hey everyone I’m super into older men who liked teenage girls and tattoos that look like swastikas but with enough plausible deniability that they’re actually swastikas.
Cue his idiot fan base tripping over their own dicks to wax poetic about how iNtElLiGeNt he is.
Also like…was it even THAT great of a statement? “What would you say to them?” “Nothing I would listen.” WOW GROUNDBREAKING. For years I’ve heard people say how smart he is and how great he is in interviews and I’m over here like when? Where? Who? He’s never displayed above moderate intelligence to me.
Don’t even get me started on the interviewer asking about racism and him saying “it’s an ism. Jizm is an ism.” What? The? Fuck?
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It doesn't look the same>>1152624
I feel like they'd look a bit more similar though tbh
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Look its "Don"
yep, big forehead, incel chin structure
Head Upside Down would fit better as the album name
He's charming and good at keeping his victims
around. Thats what manipulators do.
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Sorry I can't screencap the entire thing, but this is what's happening to this girl and it's from a very good article about what dealing with a narc/psychopath is like:https://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2016/06/20-diversion-tactics-highly-manipulative-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-to-silence-you/
Anyone who's ever dealt with Manson has most likely dealt with this the entire time, and it puts you in a crazy space where the abusive
shit is normal and you deserve it.
That’s not what I meant anon. I’m asking why she was around him to begin with (in recent times) because that’s not mentioned nor is the nature of their relationship (romantic etc) I’m not victim
blaming I’m just curious because she intentionally left that out for now
@house.of.regrets isn't one of the AH accusers, it was an account that was made to try to discredit @houseofeffie (who is
one of the AH accusers)
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Women related to Freemasons can join the Order of the Eastern Star, not Freemasons.
No, I'm not one because lol.
I really wonder how much Manson pays his maid, it probably isn't enough. Do celebs get people like maids and gardeners to sign NDAs?>>1152811
He was on an episode of The Talking Dead lots of years ago. I remember it because he seemed really drugged and was billed as a "super fan" but he got basic info about the show wrong and was non-sensical through most of it. He did talk over the host the entire time and I don't think he was every invited back.
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Annie just uploaded another phone call and this image. It is DEF him and it’s the worst one yet, so much small dick energy. I can’t believe this will last longer then tomorrow morning before his lawyers contact Instagram, save it while you can farmers
Was hoping Otep would chime in, and I’m glad she went about it how she did, especially considering she’s adding more to Lyndsay’s side of the coin. Every single piece of context added from every person effected by his behavior (even on a less intimate scale) helps. >>1152731
Oh, there’s ~DON~ ofc. What the actual fuck kek. >>1152727>>1152847
All of these caps and the recording give me chills. Even at the beginning it was easy for me to believe the women coming forward, but it’s far deeper than I would ever expect.
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Is this the one you're talking about? It looks pretty average to me.
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Yeah I remember the pissing on a deaf girl extract too.
His Holy Wood book chapter 10 is also disgustinghttps://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/Holy_Wood_(novel)
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Mansons followers on IG is stuck at 3.6m and if you check his recents most have grey faces and no posts. Is he buying followers?
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The book was going to be the basis for a film apparently pukes
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Sorry last post, this is all off his Web archive.
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lol this girl's tea is coated in Manukah honey
That is definitely Manson without a doubt.
Anyone can please shed light on what they got away from that audio clip? Maybe my English is not good enough but it makes very little sense.
Looks like they're a mentally ill/obsessed fan.https://www.reddit.com/user/brokendollparts/comments/e10t05/screen_video/
It's all just text messages of her talking to herself.(Imageboard)
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Caps for Annie Abrams
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More Annie Abrams
I looked up the movie and the character Annie mentioned. I'm not surprised this gluttonous pedo with a midlife crisis would identify with it.
"Popular rock singer and aspiring revolutionary Max Frost (Christopher Jones) was born Max Jacob Flatow Jr. His first public act of violence was blowing up his family's new car. Frost's band, the Troopers, live together with him, their women, and others, in a sprawling Beverly Hills mansion. The band includes his 15-year-old genius attorney Billy Cage (Kevin Coughlin) on lead guitar, ex-child actor and girlfriend Sally LeRoy (Diane Varsi) on keyboards, hook-handed Abraham Salteen (Larry Bishop) on bass guitar and trumpet, and anthropologist Stanley X (Richard Pryor) on drums. Max's band performs a song noting that 52% of the population is 25 or younger, making young people the majority in the country.
When Max is asked to sing at a televised political rally by Kennedyesque Senate candidate Johnny Fergus (Hal Holbrook), who is running on a platform to lower the voting age from 21 to 18, he and the Troopers appear – but Max stuns everyone by calling instead for the voting age to become 14, then finishes the show with an improvised song, "Fourteen or Fight!", and a call for a demonstration. Max's fans – and other young people, by the thousands – stir to action, and within 24 hours protests have begun in cities around the United States. Fergus's advisors want him to denounce Max, but instead he agrees to support the demonstrations, and change his campaign – if Max and his group will compromise, accept a voting age of 15 instead, abide by the law, and appeal to the demonstrators to go home peaceably. Max agrees, and the two appear together on television – and in person the next day, using the less offensive mantra "Fifteen and Ready".
Most states agree to lower the voting age within days, in the wake of the demonstrations, and Max Frost and the Troopers campaign for Johnny Fergus until the election, which he wins by a landslide. Taking his place in the Senate, Fergus wishes Frost and his people would now just go away, but instead they get involved with Washington politics. When a Congressman from Sally LeRoy's home district dies suddenly, the band enters her in the special election that follows, and Sally – the eldest of the group, and the only one of majority age to run for office – is voted into Congress by the new teen bloc.
The first bill Sally introduces is a constitutional amendment to lower the age requirements for national political office to 14, and "Fourteen or Fight!" enters a new phase. A joint session of Congress is called, and the Troopers – now joined by Fergus's son, Jimmy (Michael Margotta) – swing the vote their way by spiking the Washington, D.C. water supply with LSD, and providing all the Senators and Representatives with teenaged escorts.
As teens either take over or threaten the reins of government, the "Old Guard" (those over 40) turn to Max to run for president, and assert his (their) control over the changing tide. Max again agrees, running as a Republican to his chagrin, but once in office, he turns the tide on his older supporters. Thirty becomes a mandatory retirement age, while those over 35 are rounded up, sent to "re-education camps", and permanently dosed on LSD. Fergus unsuccessfully attempts to dissuade Max by contacting his estranged parents (Bert Freed and Shelley Winters), then tries to assassinate him. Failing at this, he flees Washington, D.C. with his remaining family, but they are soon rounded up.
With youth now in control of the United States, politically as well as economically, similar revolutions break out in all the world's major countries. Max withdraws the military from around the world (turning them instead into de facto "age police"), puts computers and prodigies in charge of the gross national product, ships surplus grain for free to Third World nations, disbands the FBI and Secret Service, and becomes the leader of "the most truly hedonistic society the world has ever known".
Ultimately however, Max and his cohorts may face future intergenerational warfare from an unexpected source: pre-teen children. When a young girl finds out Max's age (which is now 24), she sneers, "That's old!" Later, after Max kills a crawdad that was a pet to several young kids, then mocks their youth and powerlessness, one of the kids resolves, "We're gonna put everybody over 10 out of business."
Wait, Manson took pics of Evan's ID and credit cards and is still
sending them to people??? Isn't that a crime in itself, taking pics of people's personal info??
I hate that women have to go through this stuff. This woman, Annie, has to prove thats her name? Do you realize how messed up it is that he convinced people shes not who she is? Can you imagine the mindfuck of just sitting there finding out that your friends suddenly think you're someone else? I feel sick just thinking about it. That's crazy.
Annie just posted a vid proving that those are real messages from him and not photoshopped. Why, why, why do so many victims
have to jump through so many hoops just to be believed? It's sickening. MMy abuser wasn't even famous, he raped me several times and I still lost in court. Sick. Sick. Sick.
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Billy Corgan still hasn't released a statement but I just noticed he liked one of Annie Abrams instagram posts.
Samefag but I noticed under one of Annie's photos someone wrote " I can't believe your are 36".
Why would he suddenly flip from grooming 18-21 year olds like he clearly does by default and go for a normal aged adult woman? Just because she looks insanely like ERW and is also jewish? He is such a fucking nutcase and sicko still trying to live off the feelz from these two women (Dita and ERW) like a parasite 10+ years after their relationships with him ended, using stand-ins to act out his anger and frustrations like they aren't real human beings. I don't know how the fuck Lindsay can stand to look at him in the face everyday knowing he only tolerates her as background furniture while he searches for his ideal ERW replacement forever.
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So rumours about Lindsay were true.
Good match. Deserve each other.
Also does anybody notice the similarities between what fearless posted and Annie? Long phone calls, dms writing style, “I can't do art I am so depressed”.
Didn't get you, anon.
Even if she's never been in the fandom what difference does it make?
I dunno. I don't like the idea of pinning something on someone but that's just me. Manson seems so obsessed with paying attention to his victims
that it looks like Annie didnt say a word till she started losing people and things according to her.
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Yeah there's another nazi picture now that's been tagged as her on instagram, and there's an account linked to a petition to reinstate manson on his record label.
The only way that pic could be seen as damaging to Evan os by actual retards who think context doesn't matter. Blackmail relies on people like Manson being able to manipulate their victims
into doing controversial things on camera for out-of-context shaming later when the victim
tries to break free. That's all those pics are, and trying to take them out of any and all context while
trying to use them to point an anti-semitic finger at Evan is just painfully fucking transparent and obvious.
Right. This. Or just acknowledge the fact the she was a young girl in the middle of an abusive
relationship with a man who’s a nazi fetishist. She probably thought it would impress him/amuse him which to me is entirely forgivable.
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It was Halloween. Then who fucking cares. Idk maybe something is wrong with me but it's kinda okay to pull Hitler on Halloween?
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LMAO I need a sassy Annie account because her comments are fire. The last one in this thread slayed.
Agreed with you anon and others on that one. Consistent with the context we know too.
Her pupils are just so dilated in that one picture + she looks like she does not even register what's happening. It's plain as day she's drugged up on there. Sick way for MM to get off. Drugs + nazi props on his Jewish girlfriend. He's vile.>>1153162
No doubt she has a ton of dirt. No doubt this is why the marriage. No doubt she'd better grow the fuck up and go to the cops and save her arse in the process. But we know she does not have it in her.
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M. used to follow Annie, so she does have proof that she knew him, but that picture doesn't line up.
>>1153173>No doubt she has a ton of dirt. No doubt this is why the marriage. No doubt she'd better grow the fuck up and go to the cops and save her arse in the process. But we know she does not have it in her.
Yes, but can you imagine how much dirt he has on her? I bet he's told her over and over that if she tries to do that, he'll bring her down with him. He probably involved her in some heinous shit even her own sister doesn't know about.
Probably got her sis on speed dial in the event she snitches, his finger hovering over the number every time she looks at the door.
It's a TV show character. They covered it up. If I were a makeup artist and I had to cover up a SWASTIKA on the neck of someone that the production casted I would literally quit. What the fuck
They couldve literally found any other old burn out looking mf for that part, it didn't have to be marilyn manson
Halloween isn't an excuse. She was clearly not enjoying it and given Manson is the Nazi fetishist, the fact that it was for Halloween just fits more into the plot of abuse and manipulation. Forcing her to dress as a Nazi for Halloween for hia sick fetish of making Jewish women who admire him being him Naxi swag. That's sickfuck to the max, I just don't quite
to call it, but my point is that all the Nazi shit Manson's victims
did or interacted with was clearly all for his benefit and not a conscious choice they made themselves. He likes young, naïve women who look up to him so he can try to mold them into his perfect wife, and if that doesn't work he can blackmail them all into silence later!
Honestly Dita has never done or said anything that leads me to believe she’s a great person. I don’t think you can be that obsessed with your appearance to the point that you pose your hands in even “candid” photos taken of you and not have a touch of the narcs. Her statement was all about her and making sure that she didn’t ~look~ like a victim
cuz ew gross how can BDSM burlesque bombshell be a victim
?? Keeping up appearances is her whole thing and she’s just as much a part of the gross LA stand for nothing culture as the rest of them.
"Look at me, I was with Warner for a long time and I was stronger than all of you. I didn't let him abuse me or control me. It's your own fault, bitches. You simply couldn't handle him."
That's what her statement sounds like to me.
To be fair she never said he wasn't abusive
, she just said that their experiences didn't match hers, which is fair.
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Omfg, I can't with those morons. As if a damn petition is gonna make all the shit he's put women through go away.
But I'm not surprised. The guy that runs this fanpage is in his 30s and has a kid that used to (maybe still has) his own account run by him. Of course posing with Manson shit and tagging him. He also said the best moment of his life was to meet Manson. Poor kid. Meeting Manson was better than the birth of his son. Kek. I'm concerned for the kids of these hardcore fans. They'll probably grow up thinking abuse is okay, the way their parents are defending an actual rapist and abuser.
Is it though? She could've worded the whole thing differently then cause for someone that isn't familiar with past interviews etc. it reads like "He is not abusive
It's actually funny to see Poppy silent on this. Not like she hasn't victim
-blamed and caped for an abusive
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Yes, it was Rose. She posted this way before all of it blew up.
Funny how Manson fans in denial still think that Loma Vista is going to bankrupt without him lel they probably are relieved to not having to deal with him anymore. They have Ghost on their line-up, it's more than enough already
fun fact: people on manson subreddit was calling Loma Vista hypocritical for cutting him from label but keeping Ghost because of that lawsuit envolving Tobias (that he won)
they put copyright issues in the same level sexual abuse, manipulation and assaulting kek
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I don’t see how Lindsay’s going to lie her way out of this.
There's a good chance that she could get out of this without any legal repercussions for the part she played in his assaults if she goes along with OTEP's story and pretends to be a victim
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I wonder if this will ever see the light of day?
It would be powerful evidence; I wonder who the woman in the video was?
And fuck everyone who was involved in/knew about it.
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Samefag, sorry, earlier screenshots…
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They also called out Loma Vista for signing Iggy Pop who is well documented engaging in statutory rape of minors.
That you neglect that and focused on Ghost is interesting.
Short excerpts of the groupie footage is at the end of the Dead to the World tour video, which is also available on YouTube.
She was a paid actress and its quite clear, as much as its cringy, that it's all a performance for shock value.
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>>1152628>>1152626 >and evidently stolen from ice cream.
>Was Marilyn Manson trying to tell us something about his toxic relationships with ice cream? Something to do with how fat he got?
LOL He actually got the ice cream verse from this
Well, it's a good point, bad take from me. My bad.
Still make no sense to put a totally different situation on this weight of measure. (talking about Ghost)
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Tony, his manager of 25+ years, just dropped him as a client today(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Please can we put caps and not just links…thank you
Here's the bit on Ciulla dropping MM
This Manson interview didn't age well:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8077246.stm
There used to be audio available on YouTube, but it appears to have been scrubbed. In the audio version, he asks an unidentified woman in the room to "show" her bruises to the reporters.(lolcow.farm/info)
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Chloe Black just posted this, imagine this many fucking stupid stories floating around the world about you? First slide:
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haven't heard her name since she abused a 17 y/o
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Saged cuz this is possibly psycho babble but interesting comment left on Chloe Mendel’s last post
Hopefully she got threatened with legal action or something. Fuck her.
I’d imagine there’s a loooot of damage control behind the scenes we don’t know about. Not to give that idiot any attention, but remember how Magalyn said she was going to “make a statement” but never did? I bet anything someone told her to shut the fuck up, especially considering she loves to word vomit her every thought.
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Lollll samefag but I spoke too soon (also pretty coincidental timing, she’s still reading the threads y’all)
This stupid bitch. STILL cannot prove she was ever actually with him. Claims he never abused her- and yet also claims she was with him for years…while he was aaaall these other women. Madelyn- GIRL- you are probably one of the worst character witnesses there is, and trust you just did ‘your monster’ no favors
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Even if that's true, looks like the whole thing's been off since 2015, or 7 years ago?!
Manson tells Lindsay she’s a stalker, and she’s going to make a statement talking about their “relationship” when he’s married?? How is that gonna help him? It’ll make him look more like the piece of shit he is.
Not to mention this
→ → → and yet also claims she was with him for years…while he was aaaalll these other women.
I know this is the rambling of a very sick woman but I just gotta say it's funny how any time a coomer gets outed for cooming some dumb bitch has to pop in and say "but he didn't do that to mmmeee
". Bitch this ain't about you shut the fuck up.
I believe he fucked her, maybe even a few times, but definitely nothing beyond that. Kek that every single girl making accusations has had proof to back it up, the one girl defending him has zero.
And will Manson stans be reposting this nonsense even though it directly contradicts their Queen Lindsays narrative about how MM is her soul mate and always has been? What a mess. Way to go Mads!! Can’t wait for the live.
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Omg, this is hilarious. Any reporter who cruises by lolcow will have ample evidence she’s a fraud. Hard proof she even knows him or gtfo.
So when she was 18 her conservative Christian parents happily sent her off to LA to live near a drug addicted, psychotic sex addict who was involved with 224 other women? Sounds legit.
Does this mean Manson’s a Trump supporter too?
And what about this?
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Lindsay unliked all of his instagram photos?
Maybe it's just to preserve her privacy…minimally though, because her comments are still there.
It’s going on 8 YEARS. IF it was that serious then why hasn’t Lindsay done something besides telling fake fan accounts? All the shit Madelyn says is just her repeating what Manson tells her. Which is why he probably doesn’t do anything.
She’s claiming she has a relationship with him! He would go after her if it wasn’t true. He went after Seripham Ward for saying he was his fiancé!!!
I doubt Madelyn told her parents anything about him. Unless you really do research, people don’t know those things about him.
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I’m dead at the high quality people he has coming to his defense. Magalyn who cannot prove she’s ever even met him and this delusional freak who facetunes all her pics into looking like she’s in a funhouse mirror. Such credible. Many believables.
8 years only in her head unless she provides something legit. She’s faked evidence of their ‘relationship’ before. I can’t take her word.
What’s Lindsay supposed to do about her stalking? I have no idea if it was ever reported.
Seraphim Ward disputed that. https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/seraphim-ward-releases-statement-refuting-marilyn-manson-engagement-claim/
To be fair, Lola Blanc and Nikita Andrianova said that was not their experience but that they support these women and he was crazy in other ways.
He was also seeing this 30 yo heiress in LA, Emily something? She had this instagram with lots of pictures in green and red and they went to Chateau Marmont a bunch of times. Does anyone remember what I'm talking about? Did she say anything? It looked like they knew each other quite well.
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Looks like Madelyn is making more fake accounts again
Mansonisinnocent posted her “statement” and this comment made me lol
It's like what he does to his victims
. He builds up a fake persona and gaslights them into believing every word he says. They all have this strange, hive-like mentality. If someone disagrees with him or doesn't worship every piece of “art” that he releases, they're harassed. He brainwashes them on the same level that he does his orbiters. None of them have experienced the same abuse that Evan or any of his other accusers have, but they're still victims
, even if the majority of them are assholes.
Yeah, there are many facettes to abusive
narcs like him. They can appear sweet and gentle to others to avoid any suspicion and expand their pool of victims
. Someone can come across as a loving father and great husband but commit horrible crimes that even the family or anybody else isn't aware of.
Some people also still believe Hitler was a nice guy because he was a vegetarian lmao.
This. Narcs usually have a public persona that makes them appear genuine and cool, and they love bomb their victims
in the beginning. Relationships with abusers start out with an amazing honeymoon period. Then the victim
starts getting abused and gets gaslighted into believing that it's their fault or they're going through a rough patch and can make things better. Then they start triangulating with another person.
See, everybody likes him, and he's treating this other person great, he used to be nice to you too, so what did YOU do to make him treat you like this?
Narcs also make their victims
seem unstable. There's such a thing as reactive violence. One technique is silent treatment. Basically, they do something wrong, the victim
speaks up about it, and they just stay calm and dismissive while the victim
gets emotional and hysterical. That's a time when the abuser also gets a nice stash of public freakout videos and hysterical incoherent walls of text from the victim
that make him look better.
And Hitler wasn't even a vegetarian lol.
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Btw, the Nazi imagery used in industrial was mostly to shock and bring out the hypocricy of the modern world by drawing parallels to the Nazis. You can see practically every band using the imagery at one point.
There was also a whole Nazi exploitation genre in the 80's for the aethetic and BDSM appeal. Basically, it was used as a symbol of power and cruelty and had nothing to do with racism.
I think Dita and Evan wearing it is more S&M fetish shit that actual Nazism, so his little smear campaign will do nothing.
Now Manson and Depp seem actually into racism. He's such an edgelord doing shit for shock value that people refuse to believe he's racist.
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He also loves to call these women “witches”.
Oh look, Dawn.
We’re discussing real events that have proof behind them, not the delusions of someone who needs to be on meds. Be gone.
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Latest leaked text exchange
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Right, because it’s not proof that these texts were things he said in an interview and lyrics.>>1153836
I told my friend to send it to joke around, and it’s a screenshot that he replied back with it.
Sorry, I'm not following.
What does this have to do with anything?
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Oh look it’s Dawn texting Manson
So every one of these people- not just women mind you- exes, former assistants, band mates, they’re all lying? Why? He’s an amazing, kind, gentle person, and this unrelated group of people got together to destroy him…for fun?
Does your brain get much use anymore or is it mostly decoration at this point?
Omfg begone with your autistic sperging about "Manson is beautiful and kind uhu". Fuck off back to your fan websites.
There is not one but EIGHT FUCKING LONG ASS THREADS documenting his many abuses with irrefutable proof. Brian Warner is a scumbag, he's human trash, deal with it with what is left of your brainwashed head.
Now kindly fuck off
I can tell you've never done drugs.
Because even the quietest guy at the party gets confident, cocky, and motor mouths on cocaine.
Wtf do glasses have to do with anything LMAO
Pack it up everyone, he’s innocent. He’s just a guy with glasses on.
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Just a shy quiet guy in the corner with glasses on
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Yeah no one in glasses ever did anything bad.
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>Pack it up everyone, he’s innocent. He’s just a guy with glasses on.
with all of the stage props and his own personal fetish paraphanalia, he could probably Harvey together a walker.
Well, I'm sure you'll call me a Bible thumper or conspiracy theorist if I say what's going on.
Truth be told, I didn't believe in the afterlife until I was deep in this industry. It took the darkness for me to see the light, because I realized if some of these people in the industry truly believed in the evil, then the good had to exist too.
Anytime someone steps out of line or tries to get out of their hold, they get punished.
For instance: Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington were both looking into an elite pedophile ring. What happened? They took Chris Cornell out and his autopsy shows bruises and fractured ribs.
What did they do to Chester? They killed him on Chris's birthday, to send a message.
Manson has recently told people that he wants to get away from the darkness, but feels like he is trapped in it. Like he has become the character on stage and there isn't a difference in Brian and Manson anymore.
Manson has told people he wants to see his mom in the afterlife and is starting to not be Anti-God, but Anti-Organized Religion.
The same people that believe that Manson is a mastermind that collects blackmail, can't seem to figure out that that is exactly what the industry is doing to Manson right now. They collect years and years of stuff on you, so if you step out of line, bam, it releases and gets the media covering it.
I don't feel like going into more of it, call me crazy all you want. I wish I was as innocent as some of you and could say it was all fake too. Life was easier back then. But, I've seen too much. Things that shouldn't be physically possible. (Something similar to Mr. Corgan saying he saw someone shift shapes in front of him.)(ban evasion)
It's so obvious.
All these idiotic philosophers debating for millennia on whether or not there is life after death. Didn't they know all they needed to do was get involved in the music industry to unlock the mysterious of existence?
Those who are most fascinated/indulged in porn or the aesthetic of violence against women (like blood smeared, bruised, under control/used as probs) are probably misogynistic, covered up as artistic expression. His music videos beginning from 00's use women as probs;he even sexualized his own 18y girlfriend.He's not better than those rappers who dance with half naked strippers in a club. He's gross and a try-hard. His music videos give me second hand embarrassment.
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Learn to imageboard ffs
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Not content with mere abuse, according to Corey Feldman, MM also operates a ring of Satanic Spies (SS).
No. I just hate abusive
fucks like Manson getting away with blagant misogyny. For him women are nothing more than props he even seeks to destory. And tries to get away with it.
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Asia’s post on Manson has now been deleted, but she’s shared Depp’s animation of Lennon’s “Gimme Some Truth” to her stories. One thing I missed capping and regret - Sierra Swan calling out Asia in her stories last night. She wrote something along the lines of >Asia you massive dumbo, trying to be all mysterious…
And has no unfollowed Asia.
Did any of you nonnies cap it?
That's part of what makes determining who is telling the truth so difficult.
She's open about being an unstable person.
From an outside observer, what, if any of the claims are true?
The messages and call recordings released, even if they are all by M, don't provide any substance to the broader claims of abuse.
How does someone become so successful in getting others to ditch their long term friends?
Surely with the claims that came out against M this week, wouldn't this ex-best friend know they were used and reach out to her? Yet in her comments she said they know this friend is gone forever.
There a great deal which doesn't make sense.
Is it because these are entirely the delusions of a sick individual, or has an abuser knowingly targeted someone who is compromised and therefore is less likely to be beleived if they were to speak out.
Wouldn't call them delusions when she clearly has evidence that she knew him. If he threatened her then this makes sense to me because manipulators do that.
My mom has epilepsy so I know the emotional outbursts she's talking about. It's sad. She seems to have it under control most of the time but she said stress brings it out. He probably took advantage of that.
The Lindsay Manson relationship seems not to be a very traditional one. Like, it looks like she for whatever reason at all is just always "around". But this doesn't stop him from having whole relationships with other women. Do they even live together?
There is also talk that she blackmails him and that's why she is still there and now married to him. (Supposedly)
I wonder if they have a slave-master relationship BDSM style. Although Manson sounds too fucked up these days to really responsibly live such a lifestyle.
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Sorry Id like to correct myself, they were connected as early as 2010
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According to Lindsay they met in 2009
Samefag but doesn’t she feel dumb that her story is the same as everyone else’s? “We read books and watched movies and took Polaroids.”
That’s every. Single. Girl’s. Story.
I entirely agree with you anon - the Annie thing is a little off to me for all the reasons you listed. I posted and deleted a message to that effect earlier because I did not phrase it nearly as well as you.
I do believe she does have stuff on MM. However, one red flag for me is she said she reads these threads and most likely could be self posting here - and this is never a good sign on lolcow.
I definitely do believe her, as in give her the benefit of the doubts, but so far, she has provided little substance to back her claims up. I'd say tread carefully for those ready to get into her stuff.
Definitely looking forward to see her next posting though.
Narcissists have a way of making their victim
sound and seem crazy to the point of the victim
believing they are. There's a lot of shame and self-blame in Annie's posts that are classic signs of someone who's been a victim
of an abuser or gaslighter. She mentioned that she's posting these as a warning (I assume to Manson) because he's launched a smear campaign behind her back. All classic signs of a narcissist making sure that their victim
is isolated from those they love.
Also, BPD, which, despite the eye rolling the diagnosis gets, is notoriously hard to police and keep in check. I like Annie, she comes across as open and honest about her own flaws. I believe the evidence she provided, that shows she was in a relationship of some kind with him. I believe everything she says about his threats and isolating her from friends etc.
I am simply curious about the details. I guess she did some things under Manson’s influence that affected her friendships and she now regrets that.
Yeah, sounds lovely rather basic.
One thought I find interesting is that Manson seems to be a lot less socially adept one would assume.
How he repeats how he says things to people on stage that he can't say to people in his personal life. Because he's not very good at communication.
But then the person who seems to be very manipulative, who supposedly tortures, rapes and abused people?
How do these two things go together?
Really, I always thought highly narcissistic people who perpetuate in narcissistic abuse would be good at social interaction? Would be good at communication? Would be good a social interaction?
I'm really wondering how these two things go together.
Not in a "I don't believe the women" sort of way, more in a "I thought these two attributes would not exist in the same person".
(Two attributes: being socially not very adept and being a manipulative abusive
controlling asshole to dozens of women.)
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Right! But she did say she’s using this as a threat back to him to get him to stop invading her personal/professional life. So maybe it’ll lead up to that BUT she responded to a comment and said she certainly wouldn’t release it on Instagram.
I would be much more gentle with her if she hadn't helped him grooming girls back. Being a psychotic hysteroid gold-digging bitch who got trapped in abusive
relationship is one thing, and being all the above and HELP your abuser abuse other women is on a whole different level.
So all the talk about how shy he is, is all bullshit?
In the 2017 interview with channel 4 news (UK TV station) he hints at how he would be diagnosed with autism or Asperger these days.
So maybe he likes to explain his narcissistic lack of consideration for anybody else's feelings as a sign of autism (to himself)? Like to make sense of it?
And the talk about being shy and bla bla is manipulation?
And how about all the talk about being desperate and depressed, is this bullshit too?
This is like a puzzle with a bunch of missing pieces.
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ERW just posted this to her story
Wasn't Maxwells role much more dominant and less doormat than Lindsay's?
From what I read about Maxwell she seemed to be yes, infatuated with Epstein, but she played an active part in this whole operation (also for her own pleasure).
Lindsay sounds just passive and desperate.
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Please sage anon.
Also, I'm not going to fight with you on this. There is no evidence Manson is bad at social interaction, but plenty of evidence that he is rather good at it.
Lindsay makes think of Ghislaine because both were enabler in abuse.
Does she mean 21-?
Jfc, these were just questions. I'm not looking to "fight" with anybody.
I'm a really just wondering about how does this work, is this whole act part of his manipulation? Presenting himself as different (with different personality characteristics) than he really is.
Really, I'm just interested in how this all works.
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Clever move by ERW.
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Take a chill pill and Sage.>>1154062
Good that she addressed it. Clever move. MM must be fuming right now.
Yes. It seems so. He can change his personality into different characters. It’s crazy. Like even that Annie chick said, she said something she didn’t know if she was even talking to him because it sounded like someone else and that he don’t sound like the same person when he was texting her on iMessage.
Either it’s a manipulative tactic to disguise himself. Or, could just be maybe he’s not comfortable being himself, so he changes into these characters.
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She's not going to get out of it
From my experience the abuser come off as complete normal, loving, kind, “vulnerable” so the victim trusts them and shares their pains and insecurities so the victim shares more and more about themselves.
Then randomly after the victim trusts the person, the abuser lashes out, explodes with anger, profanity, aggressive behavior and blames the outburst on alcohol, substance, or emotional pain/circumstances. The victim is thrown off by the behavior but believes the excuse because the person they know is usually kind and caring.
Then the frequency of outbursts begin to increase but they place the blame on the victim
Example: the abuser will freak out in rage and say something like “you looked at that guy walking by, you’re worthless if you think you’ll find someone better than me! You should be ashamed of yourself! How dare you disrespect me in front of my friends?”
And the victim didn’t mean anything malicious but they will begin to become self critical, because the person they “know” is usually loving and now the victims “actions” just “hurt” the abuser. So the victim will modify their behavior to please the abuser.
This cycle will keep going and going until the abuser controls how they dress, who they talk to, what they do or don’t do.(lolcow.farm/info)
You’re participating in a thread on an image board which has a set of rules. All participants are expected to integrate. Just do yourself a favour and just read the rules https://lolcow.farm/rules
Coming off butthurt at anons who are quite rightly telling you to sage your shit isn’t gonna get you far, and, if we’re lucky, you’ll cop a ban. This thread has already been on autosage because of morons who refuse to integrate. Stop being a dick.
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I am that anon who posted pics from Leslee's discord, I promised another anon to save the logs. Dear anon who helped me a few days ago I am sorry it took me some time to upload the logs and finally share them.
You guys can follow the link and download the folders, once you are done click the html files. You will see the chats, I saved two - no-mic (w\o pictures) and main-chat (with pictures). Leslee knew I posted about her discord here but she nuked the main-chat only yesterday, idk why she waited so long. Because she saw I didn't post anything after saying I would? The cap from the day I posted here.
I remember Leslee confirming Manson had a lot of fakes and that he had been going under many names, check the main chat for proof.
The link https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14IYoTYYQ_MeoFRUQ-Sqlb5KFRoEbrimR?usp=sharing
I will delete everything in March. Save and reupload if you want.
I think ERW already has the logs, judging by >>1154043
So the link is for anons solely I guess.
If there are any issues with the files pls let me know.
Sorry for the blog, but my narc started off our friendship by info dumping their entire life story on me, complete with trauma and embarrassing shit, and encouraged me to share my own life story with them. In two months they had more dirt on me than my mother and every single thing got twisted and turned into a smear campaign against me when I left them.
My mental illness was also used against me. I had to forgive aggression against me because as a fellow psycho I had to understand that they lost control, but everything I said was a symptom of my deranged mental illness.
I think Manson does that too. I bet all those girls are "the only ones who understand him". They really are all the same, aren't they.(blogging)
Thank you nonnie
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OMG How did TMZ find that video? It was NOWHERE to be found! That's when he read that letter from Lindsay.
Leslee says she created a fan page about ERW+MM and a little bit about his fakes.
That's how the chats should be displayed to you.>>1154111
you are welcome
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If leslee is @caustic, then why is she talking to her self on Mansons birthday message from Courtney Love? These comments are 3 or so comments apart. She congratulates Love then tags herself @leslee_ to reply she's been 10 years sober?
Just she changed her handle to caustic recently? It looks like she's changed handles with someone?
There's some personal chats from lilacs20 in between them
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These are both her
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Posted by Evan on her IG yesterday, then deleted it a few hours later
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TMZ just posted about the breakup letter and are suggesting it’s from Evan. Can no one there research properly??
(The Warner situation's being discussed on the Bad Ass Women's Hour on the radio just now. In the UK. A whole show discussing why rock stars manipulating younger women for sex has been p much overlooked even during #metoo)
Live if you want to listen https://talkradio.co.uk/badass-womens-hour
you should be able to, just checked it. and anon >>1154150
successfully downloaded it. it may take a lot of time because the size is huge.>>1154150
hmm I believe her but I don't believe her words in that cap. I mean the first two sentences.
I mean I know what she’s trying to do here but the majority of Vegas casinos do not care if there are children running around at all hours. The Bellgio (not where this concert was held) used to card people at entrances but they did away with that policy shortly after they opened.
Still side with her though, fuck this chinless dumpster fire of a human
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Linda Strawberry is a good friend of Billy Corgan and Ashley Walters.
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at 0:46 of that video, he busts a move like a sexually deviant white supremacist. how can anyone find him appealing?
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Oh no not the woman who fetishizes ‘womanhood’ having internalized misogyny and believing some men will be men bullshit. Imagine being DITA VON TEESE and accusing other women of being attention seeking lol.
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This woman worked for Oprah who is also affiliated with Manson.
is anyone surprised by this? She's always come off as a complete egotistical bitch since day 1. It's obvious that she's still angry that Evan 'seduced' MM away from her… Completely unable to grow from it and realize it could of been anyone
, eventually he would of been 'seduced' by another very young girl. I find it pathetic that anyone would consider her a feminist icon or anything related to women empowerment, ESPECIALLY after her callous, backhanded 'comment'.
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I remember hearing that Manson and Dita used to have threesomes with young actresses, like Lindsay Lohan. It’s been suggested before that this is how they both met Evan, in a threesome. Can’t find any receipts.
Does anyone have any info on this?
How did Manson and Evan claim to meet each other?
::oatmeal osborne has entered the chat::
Go suck mansons dick somewhere else, your delusions do nothing here
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Don't know about Lindsay Lohan but i remember the stuff he said a few years back specifically about threesomes and Dita
Ok let’s break it down OaTmEaL
Under 21 is exactly what underage means, especially in the context of her being drunk and on drugs which she mentions
Vegas hotels actually do work that way which you’d know if you knew anything about the world- they can’t afford to get in trouble and lose their liquor license because some rockstar wants his underage gf to get drunk in public. They will however let you do whatever the fuck you want in their hotel rooms because that provides them plausible deniability
Lastly it’s so laughable to think you know what the sex was like in a relationship between people you…don’t…know. I have no doubts you’re just a fat neckbeard that no one wants to fuck and Manson had made you feel LeSs aLoNe so it’s hard to imagine your hero is piece of shit but…if he’s anything like his awful fans it’s really not that hard to imagine.
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Just stopped by because I heard you crotchy bitches are trying to make everything about grooming now, not every assertive guy is a rapist just because your dad fucked you in the ass when you were a kid.
Sorry but you all suck
Innocent until proven guilty, men are fed up with women all of a sudden deciding something is grooming ten years later when they're embarrassed about something they did with their ex boyfriend when they were a legal adult, it's your fault. Stop trying to blame someone else.
Now go fuck yourselves(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
oh you WroTe LiKe ThIS, you must be good at the internet. I've clearly upset you, sorry for interfering in your online detective LARP game. By the way you're still wrong on your points so I hope people go and read my comment.
Your little string of attempted insults at the end shows it really hits a nerve with you sweetie
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I’m not sure but think that’s Oprah in the background that was at Machine Gunn Kelly’s birthday.(ban evading retard)
I read your comment and I agree with you about the first point at least, I also don't care.
This isn't a court of law, no one is going to prosecute Brian - the judicial system you hold so highly won't permit it anymore. Evan doesn't get her day in court so there is no innocent until proven guilty here.
If people think Brian is a piece of shit based on everything he has said and done over his career, then they will.
Hey scrotemeal a question: do you believe Madelyns statement? Or do you believe that Lindsay is MM’s one true love as she claims?
Because if what Madelyn says is true then all this time her claiming that Lindsay is insane and that MM doesn’t really love her and really loves Madelyn would be true. Which makes MM seem kind of …abusive
… to Lindsay.
Or do you think Madelyn is delusional and making it all up which means to date Manson really has no ex that’s truly defended him. Serious question.
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Go see @spencerrollins stories on IG. Lots of caps. Joins the dots on the Manson kicking Evan’s brother out, too
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Then this post isnt going to go down well either
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I really like that over here (UK) his stories tend to be the first on the reports page, saging for not new info but I bet this pisses him off that this time the media is not gonna let this story go.
>>1154352>Anyone else finding the latest ERW IG story uploads as undermining the broader claims at abuse?
No. Just you.
>She's actively participated in actions to be rebellious and edgy, and we're now to beleive she had no agency over her actions?
This is not AbOuT HeR aCtIoNs, this is about Brian's actions, specifically about his repeated actions of abusing and raping and threatening women with blackmail, murder and other types of revenge.
>It's feeling increasingly someone is trying to move on from their previous, immature adult years her trusting to accepting responsibility for their choices.
Nah. Just you feeling that.
This has been discussed earlier in the thread at length.
She has every right to regain control of the narrative when the pictures MM threatened to blackmail her with are actively being used to undermine the abuse, rape and physical violence he subjected her to for years. She also talks about him repeatedly abusing her because she is jewish, and his love of all things nazi (and his charming swastikas-non-swastikas tattoos) don't exactly play in his favour.
So no, I don't find her latest posts crazy. If anything, it's corroborating her broader claims made a long time before the shitshow about how manipulated, subjugated etc she was.
Research narcissist abuse, there are plenty of stories like that around.>>1154348
So true anon.
so, Spencer faked a whole MYSPACE message in 2021 just for the fuck of it? lel
he played keys with Manson in 2013 concerts btw
'control of the narrative' which is a problem, if one was interested in objective truth.
What prevents her from acknowledging her choices to be rebellious and immature while
also being abused by MM?
If she can't take accountability for her actions such as her choice to wear nazi memorabilia, than what else is she trying to pin the blame on someone else for?
This looks more like 2 immature losers having allowed themselves to get too deep up their own ass.
Typo. I meant to say 'having said that'.
I beleive the Spencer screenshot. It clearly shows MM to be a narcissistic loser probe to juvenile antics.
Control of the narrative is only a problem if the abused ex wife is trying to regain…control of her own story? After having been silenced for fear of her life for years ?
I'm gonna leave that right there on the table where you put it anon.
Your right that the photos could be used for blackmail purposes and what would be expected from abusers.
My comment is more that, disregarding the photo resurfacing, ERW willingly participated in the original act of wearing nazi memorabilia but is now trying to make the claim that she has no responsibility for her actions. That somehow it was her 'brainwashing'.
Own up. You chose to be edgy and it doesnt look so great in hindsight.
No one cares. We've all been through these times. You can't blame everyone but yourself for bad choices.
If you can't own up to something a minor as being a past edgelord, it does raise credibility questions on other matters.
At this stage anon, after everything that has been said and displayed and explained, if you still cannot understand why this way of thinking plays into the abusive
party's advantage…I don't think anyone can help you understand it.
Educate yourself on this please. What you wrote is problematic
on many levels and just shows how little you understand about this type of relationships.
Maybe I've not been clear enough.
It seems quite evident that MM has a long history of abuse. I haven't and I don't challenge the claims that have been put forward.
Look, I'm just participating in a discussion.
I don't have a concern for anyone involved in this story. I'm not trying to defend or denigrate any particular actor.
Yes, an abuser can use ones lack of credibility to their advantage. Its this manipulation which makes them so insidious and requires work from greater society to combat this. however
just because something could be used by an a abuser, I don't see a valid
reason for why we should neglect to mention it.
Truth is what it is.
ERW can be both the victim
of horrific abuse while also being someone who refuses to take accountability for their own actions.
Acknowledging the latter doesn't in any way diminish or dismiss the abuse. Both matters can be appreciated concurrently.
You might be right in a perfectly spherical vacuum of a world, but Evan has to be smart right now because she herself is fighting a smear campaign.
Do you see Brian taking any accountability for his actions, the documented abuse he has admitted to and bragged about throughout his career?
If you're the anon who posted the following :>>1154379>>1154375>Own up. You chose to be edgy and it doesnt look so great in hindsight.
That is exactly what you are doing, quoting you:>I'm not trying to defend or denigrate any particular actor.> I haven't and I don't challenge the claims that have been put forward.
>If you can't own up to something a minor as being a past edgelord, it does raise credibility questions on other matters.
Do you see the problem?
Apologies if I'm off base and this was not one anon behind these posts. If I'm correct, then we can agree to disagree and I stand by my previous response to your point.
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Spencer Rollins part 1
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Spencer Rollins part 2
Jesus CHRIST. This motherfucker just records everyone and everything. Of course most of his former band mates and employees aren’t saying shit. You can never know what this cunt recorded you doing or saying.
No wonder his music has been so shitty the last 15 years. Homeboy literally spends every free moment he has playing criminal minds or some shit. No time for art when you’ve got 20 year old guys to harass and stalk for absolutely no reason.
I hope Manson chokes. What a goddamn waste.
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Spencer Rollins part 3
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Spencer Rollins part 4
>>1154391>I don't think anyone wanted this record, myself included
That had me whizzing omg.
Warner is next level psycho. At this stage it's not surprising but dear lord…we can establish his brain was fried already back then.
Thanks for the caps, anon.
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And here he is filming up (Wolf Alice) Ellie Rowsell’s skirt.
Brian's not going to step up and take any accountability. His statement is exactly what you'd expect from such a coward.
The 'smear campaign' is in all seriousness, just a small ragtag bunch of die-hard fans and manson sockpuppets.
ERW has overwhelming support for her and I've not seen a single mainstream media outlet even attempt to pick any holes in her statements.
A vacuum would be a suitable term.
I've only commented on something in isolation.
References to manson holding people against their will and having sex with their unconscious bodies is beyond defence and as clear of abuse as anything could be.
My isolated concern was ERW trying to equate her past edgelord behaivour (wearing mansons nazi cap as a Halloween costume) as being in any way related to unequivocal abuse and deprivation.
Alluding that her choices weren't in fact hers and were due to 'brainwashing', I find problematic
What sort of feminist statement is this? That woman are so fundamentally weak willed they can't be accountable for their poor choices?
I refuse to beleive so low of humanity.
She could have stayed silent, or owned up to these photos.
We all have regrets from our past. It was a poor choice to make.
All in all, just my observation and I should stress simply on an isolated component that shouldn't be taken undermine mansons own culpability, or abusers in general.
>>1154397>Evan was controlled in a way not unlike a member of a cult is brainwashed by an abusive cult leader
That sums it up perfectly. This is batshit insanity. Imagine being so insecure that you go after a fucking 20 year old? What in the fuck
And that's just part one…buckle up>>1154404>My isolated concern was ERW trying to equate her past edgelord behaivour (wearing mansons nazi cap as a Halloween costume) as being in any way related to unequivocal abuse and deprivation
She never equated the two. She said this is the type of things he would blackmail her with, and we have documented proof it was the case.
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This one has been discussed previously, it's now a full fledged interview in the papers https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/marilyn-manson-got-fans-strip-23455069.amp
>>115440>She never equated the two. She said this is the type of things he would blackmail her with, and we have documented proof it was the case.
You could be right and I've misunderstood.
I just find it odd how you could blackmail someone with a photo of you wearing your Halloween costume.
It implied to me that the actual act of wearing the costume wasn't her choice. An argument with little to no merit.
I could very well be wrong in this interpretation and this is yet another example of how brain friend Brian is, thinking these photos could have any weight as blackmail material.
>The 'smear campaign' is in all seriousness, just a small ragtag bunch of die-hard fans and manson sockpuppets.
That's seems to be the case, but given the kind of fear she's been living with I understand she wouldn't want to give away any ground. Even a handful of these low IQ individuals can do harm to her mental state.
>Alluding that her choices weren't in fact hers and were due to 'brainwashing', I find problematic.
What do you think abuse and deprivation is? Maybe she was being edgy all on her own, but if she put up with being raped in the relationship, don't you think she might have also put up with doing other things she otherwise wouldn't have if she weren't in that sitution?
Also, I think the fact you chose to say "sex with their unconscious bodies" rather than rape is problematic
>What sort of feminist statement is this? That woman are so fundamentally weak willed they can't be accountable for their poor choices?
It's not? This has nothing to do with being a woman. This is about a teenager getting into a relationship with a much older, more experienced person. And yes, evidently in this case like many others the younger person was easily influenced by their much older abuser.
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Sorry not sure if this was reported in previous threads but now Cory Feldman has come out with abuse allegations against MM.
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Spencer playing with Manson in 2013. Don't know why he didn't mentioned that but I'm sure he's gonna tell a lot more stuff than what he posted by now
>I just find it odd how you could blackmail someone with a photo of you wearing your Halloween costume.
Oh, are you not aware of the full details?
Evan is wearing a black dress, not a Nazi "costume", she's wearing Manson's Nazi hat and a moustache drawn with eyeliner. At some other point in the night she has a cat nose and whiskers drawn instead. This seems like less of a calculated decision than if she spent weeks planning and making a Nazi costume for Halloween.
It's exactly this kind of misrepresentation that the Manson camp were relying on as blackmail. It seems to have worked on you.
I'm not sure you've understood what I wrote.
If she wants to don a nazi cap, I don't care. It's pretty cringey, but people are free to do cringey things.
As I mentioned above, my commentary is based on a suspicion ERW was implying her choice to wear the cap (or similar acts) was in fact outside her control or due to outside manipulation. I don't buy this as an acceptable argument.
I could very well be incorrect on this assumption, and my opinion would therefore be moot.
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Saged because I don’t trust random Reddit comments but lol at the things people just casually drop about Manson
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This is a good point. Maybe I have too much of his "Heart-shaped glasses" videoclip in mind, when we see them having some kind of -fake according to Evan/true for MM- wild sex, I also think about all the girls like Jenna Jameson who said that he's really "into bruises and biting during sex", I think about Esme's back injuries caused by a whip and which was filmed "in the name of art", that she "used to see with pride" (BDSM session?), I think about the rapes he is accused of… Maybe my brain don't want to admit that this sicko is capable of this compartmentalization because I find it even more crazy and scary. I mean, it's more simple to imagine him evil from A to Z in every situation. Even with a fried brain, he's clearly more subtle than this and thinking about this aspect, him having a "conventional" sex life with his girlfriends when he's not abusing or torturing them (how fucked up is that sentence?!) is quite disturbing and astonishing in my opinion. For me, it's not very logical because I perceive him as violent even in sex situations, but I'm not saying that I'm holding the truth, it's a personal feeling. Anyway, if it's the case and he's capable of "vanilla sex", it just adds even more credit to the victims
when they talk about his twisted personality and how much difficult it was to get out the influence of such a scumbag. Makes me think about this tweet of ERW :
>my commentary is based on a suspicion ERW was implying her choice to wear the cap (or similar acts) was in fact outside her control or due to outside manipulation.
But manipulation and control is part of an abusive
relationship with a narcissist. She's already described a pattern of abuse where Brian controlled her, including what she wore, and that if people dared to speak up against him they were singled out and ridiculed. So, even if she did make certain choices, you're ignoring the fact that fear of further abuse might have played a role in her decisions.
Anyway, she's already given her reasons and you've stated that you don't believe her. As nobody knows the truth there's really nothing to debate.
The moustache was drawn on her and the cap is not hers. She's not wearing a "nazi costume", she was literally made to wear this and was drawn on by other guests while drunk off her mind. She explained it in details.
Why you are nitpicking on that and spending time writing lengthy "I'm not saying there isn't abuse but" comments is another matter altogether.
>>1154474>she was literally made to wear this
This I wasn't aware of.
Are there screenshots of her confirming this?
Previous comments have reported she wore this at a Halloween party, and she has a history of courting intentionally controversial attire.
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Sage as not coming from the most unbiased of sources.
? I'm not.
I raised a single query and have elaborated when the subject was raised by others.
Kek. This is prime tinfoil.
So ERW went through all the trouble of getting abused, raped, mentally destroyed just so that 10 years later, she could help Amber Heard.
You gotta love the complete absence of self awareness in their logic…MM is friend with Depp so…like what is their fucking point?
Evan is not
friends with Amber Heard, that’s tinfoil material pushed by fans.
Asking for evidence to substantiate a claim put forward shouldn't indicate obsession.
I understand this is an emotionally charged topic for some people. I just made an observation as a casual outsider.>>1154494
I don't quite follow.
How would MM being named by ERW prevent him from being a character witness for JD?(samefagging)
Evan defended Amber's bisexuality during her trial and posted a picture of her holding a flag in her story (before
she was accused of being the abusive
one in their relationship). That's the only time they've ever interacted with each other, apart from Amber making a post about Manson after she named him. They're just grasping for straws.
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try using your remaining two brain cells and think about it instead of being spoonfed
That does not indicate a friendship necessarily, only that a domestic abuse victim
is sympathetic to another.
Not that if they are friends that changes or proves anything.
When did that thread become the Evan Rachel Wood thread exactly ?>>1154509
No, you're clearly not obsessed, anon.
Lmao you gotta love the incels who come to thread, I’m sure right after crying on 4chan that no one will fuck them, complaining about women “regretting bad sex”
If you had more of a sex life you would understand how dumb that sounds. We’ve ALL had bad sex. We don’t call men abusers because they’re weird in bed. We call them abusers when they abuse us.
Samefag not you anon I know you were being sarcastic
This article also reports Evan being friends with Amber.https://people.com/celebrity/evan-rachel-wood-talks-bisexuality-defends-amber-heard/
Whether they are friends or not seems unrelated to the abuse claims and serves as an unnecessary distraction.
I think you're intentionally glossing over the whole "ERW was never seen in Nazi swag before or since being in an abusive
, controlling relationship with a Nazi fetishist" and "Brian is the Nazi fetishist with a documented history of having women dress in and bring him Nazi stuff" thing to try to use a pic of Evan in Brian's hat to somehow prove she's a piece of shit who deserved her abuse at his hands bc… she was edgy and young?
Seriously, you're trying to equate apples to oranges. Evan being """edgy""" for unhappily wearing Brian's Nazi hat < brian being an abusive
fucking asshole to dozens of young women he could manipulate
No. That would be a very disingenuous way to misinterpret anything I said.
I must not have been clear.
Her choice to engage in intentionally provocative acts and attire by no means suggests she ever invited or justified abuse in any form. Her choices in no way minimise or excuse the acts of violence and abuse she reports as having suffered.
I feel this particular topic has been given more time than it deserved.
It was not my intention to distract from the main focus here.
I'm new to this site and I appear to have made an error in judgment in assuming such a topic could be discussed impartially. I understand there's a lot of characters trying to undermine each side and any submission would be viewed heightened suspicion.
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Your link doesn’t show that quote but this article explains it: >>1154527
Evan defended her bisexuality on Twitter before it came known Heard was an abuser. There’s no indication they’re friends outside of that article’s use of word. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/evan-rachel-wood-attacks-press-coverage-amber-heard-s-bisexuality-a7055051.html
>>1154538>I feel this particular topic has been given more time than it deserved.
You are the only one pushing it.
>I'm new to this site and I appear to have made an error in judgment in assuming such a topic could be discussed impartially
You are not impartial and, yes, we can tell you are infiltrating from one of your incel sites.
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Now People ran the Lindsay story and I thought we could all take a moment to lol over these side by side pics they chose- ERW looking radiant, him looking like he was a clown balloon that someone left out in the sun too long
AYRT, so what was
your actual point? Also why use so many words to say so little? Learn to trim the fat, you type like you're trying to find the smartest sounding way to say total nonsense without anyone noticing it's nonsense.
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There was a period where he would distinguish his chin line with black makeup, so his head and neck didn't look like one big thumb.
The point is self evident.
Idle speculation on what appeared to be an ambiguous implication raised by ERW.
Just as there's been focused attention on the interpretation of DVTs choice of the word 'incur', I made an interpretation for discussion.
Obviously it seems certain individuals are exempt from any perceived critical review, at least at this point in time.
I understand it's an emotive topic for some and I didn't consider that before my comment.(ban evasion)
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Nothing useful just a funny comment on mansons post the second of lol (sorry if this doesn't post correctly)
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>the beautiful cheetos the beautiful cheetos>are you motherfuckers ready for the new snacks>I don't like mayonaise, but mayonaise likes me
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>Spread me over
>Sticky tender yummy ribs
>Are all your sides filled with soggy chips?
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>The High End of Cholesterol
This has gone well beyond the original issue of her wearing a controversial hat.
>Her choice to engage in intentionally provocative acts and attire by no means suggests she ever invited or justified abuse in any form. Her choices in no way minimise or excuse the acts of violence and abuse she reports as having suffered.
No one here is disagreeing with this.
The difference of opinion is that you don't seem to acknowledge the effect that emotional abuse such as gaslighting, humiliation and threats of physical harm might have had on her choices. Yes, she may have made choices in the past that she regrets, but she may not feel the need to ‘own up to them’ – at least not to a bunch of strangers on the internet – because she has accepted that she made those choices because of the abusive
situation she was in.
>Obviously it seems certain individuals are exempt from any perceived critical review, at least at this point in time.
That's correct. She's trying to do everything in her power to bring an allegedly abusive
man to justice in a system that doesn't want to hear it because she and others took too long to report - again, because they were threatened. She doesn't owe anyone an apology or explanation at this time, she's focused on her main goal.
If you still can’t understand this, then maybe you can at least understand why it takes victims
of this sort of abuse so long to even recognise that they were abused in the first place. Especially when a lot of people still tend to only recognise physical abuse and restraint as ‘actual’ abuse.
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>Nothing suffocates you more than the passing of wind over dinner at Trents
>And constipation is your daily task you struggle to breathe in to stay alive
>[chorus] DIET! DIET! DIET! DIET!(ban evading sperg)
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The post that >>1154631
is talking about, the audio is on the insta page she linked.
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Leslee literally said on her Discord server that Lindsay was asking for those pictures of Evan to, “shut her up.” Now she supposedly wasn't involved (and she says this after Lindsay unfollowed her and she has no reason to kiss her ass anymore). Truly pathetic.
I couldn't be fucked to listen to all of these, but this is what I got, starting from the second clip to the second-to-last. >How you told me…convinced her my mom molested me, and I cried too, and then he fucking told you, and then you broke up with me. And then we got engaged again. Fuck, you know that's like, fucked up. It's like…she convinced me my mom molested me. She convinced me my mom molested me, and I had to ask my own father when my mom was dying, which is fucked up. As fuck. And my mom was weird and schizophrenic, but my mom did not fuck me when I was a kid, but she tried to convince me that she did. And that is wrong. And [???], to ask my dad that I [???] and he got really pissed off at me. And it like, really caused a [???] between us.>If you can understand the levels of fucking bullshit and lies that I, like, honestly [???]. We never said this to you, I'm gonna tell it to you [???]. I was utterly confused when she made that statement. I was like, "Is she talking about Jamie Bell? Like, I never…" [???] I'm like, Jimmy never…[repetition, more about how he dindu nuffin] I'm the most sensitive…>..person when it comes to emotions and people's feelings, and that was like the last thing. [??] I never, ever lash out on people. I only lash out on myself. And maybe it was theatrical, and maybe it wasn't, but I cut myself [???]. Was I hurting anyone? No. I've never fucking…the only person I ever harmed when I was a child was my mom, and that was because she followed me, and that was it.>[???] I didn't beat my mom to death. That hurts me so much. That hurt me so much. The thing that hurt me so much was I hurt my mom after she was hurting me.>I haven't changed. If anything, I'm better than before, only because I was weak and being taken advantage of. And then she's like [???]
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>Is she talking about Jamie Bell? Like, I never did anything, and he just did Nymphomaniac where he actually ties a girl down and rapes her and I'm like maybe he taks his work home with him, I don't know.
that's probably the biggest reach he's made in 15 years.
If this isn't the ramblings of someone seriously suffering some sort of drug induced mania or psychosis, i don't know what is.
These audio conversations reminds me way too much of friends who have fried themselves on drugs.
The physical assaults i can't forgive.
But i'm starting to wonder if all the emotional abuse and weird behaviour isn't intentional / something he doesnt even realise hes doing, or at the very least, doesnt understand the weight of his actions.
He honestly sounds so fucking messed up, dude needs a psych evaluation asap.
If he's had enablers all his life and his issues have gone unchecked, i can easily imagine how he's become the monster hes been portrayed as.
No, they said he forgets
to take it, implying that he doesn't stop taking it on purpose. Maybe he really wasn't intentionally hurting them or he didn't understand the full extent of what he was doing, but now that he is aware, the least he could've done was apologize to them, publicly or privately, and own up to that shit. Instead, he called them liars and tried to play the victim
. That's unforgivable.
It doesn’t matter how much professional help he can get - he hasn’t taken advantage of it by now and he likely never will in my opinion >>1154690>>1154699
Leads all more into my point that this dude doesn’t give a fuck. He had a “get out of jail” card for the longest time. Doesn’t matter now.
NPD is a personality didorder; you can't get meds for that. Bipolar can be treated with SSRIs and a lot of people say they don't like the "flatline" effect they have , particularly if they are creative types.
Saged for no milk and medfagging.
Stop fucking feeling sorry for him. There's a rule against armchairing and you obviously don't understand what a personality disorder is. It's not a magic spell that makes someone do shit they wouldn't choose for themselves.
This is an adult with a lot of money and connections who was functional enough to have a successful career. No matter what his pathology he could have sorted his shit out at any time, surrounded himself with whomever he wanted, and he didn't. Instead he made it other people's problem. Labelling that Piece of Shit Personality Disorder Potato Sub-type doesn't add anything to the conversation.
I saw that one.
I mean all calls from him?
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New stuff. Why does he do this to so many people? I can't imagine how paranoid I'd be omg
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>Marilyn Manson insists on being called M./signs emails or texts as M.
oh is he doing a Reference?
Or maybe its short for Marilyn or Manson.
Just spitballing here.
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I just found this video on youtube and this woman claims that she hooked up with manson in 2011(?) when she was 19 and a virgin. She thinks thay the women he abused did this to themselves and it's their fault
Thats what he wants people to belive.
I bet he knows what he is doing.
Damn Madelyn is looking rough here
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Marilyn Manson's lawyer arrives for a late night emergency meeting at his home in LA
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Not sure if this was posted previously. A sexual assault claim in 2018 that was rejected but talks about imprisonment and assault consistent with the claims by other women who came forward.
That has not aged well
Maybe they dropped it to show it’s true about him being a racist nazi. Which all adds up now that he seems to be obsessed with bloodlines
and German shit [which he’s only half German and half Polish]. He talks about his ancestry in an interview.
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Samefag- Maybe they’ve been reading comments like this ?
Yeah I was wondering if I heard that right. Is he saying his Mom molested him?
In no way does that minimize what he's done – psychopaths and abusers should be held fully accountable for the harm they perpetrate – but that would explain a lot.
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Evan posted a story that links to an article about the Lana del Rey bodyshaming text from Annie. they wrongly credited Annie as the actress and she clarified she's not that one. I feel awful for laughing at Lasagna del Rey. It's completely sending me…
He’s a piece of shit, but he is occasionally really funny. The “from a dead Nazi you fucking moron” and “Lasagna Del Rey” lines made me cackle pretty hard, even if he’s in NO position to make fun of anyone’s weight or intelligence.
I think that’s part of the “charm” that people get suckered in by. If you didn’t know about these accusations, then it would be easy to think that he’s just an edgelord asshole who says outrageous shit for attention/laughs.
But for me, the funniest thing he does is when he tries to sound tough in social media DM’s, because he just sounds like a little desperate little bitch trying to sound intimidating. It’s both funny AND pathetic. That’s shit that 14 year olds send to people when they are having a spat with a classmate. It’s the equivalent of the “what did you just say about me you little bitch?!?!” copypasta.
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Teena Byrd’s niece on the hate of her aunt, who she admits was a little “unhinged”.
Poor old Teena. IIRC wasn’t ever confirmed before that Teena died, despite rumours. I might be wrong about that.
"That repressed memory stuff was popular for a while?"
Repressed memories are very real. I recently discovered through therapy that I was abused by a relative as a child.(lolcow.farm/info)
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LMAO I am officially dead and buried. Those lyrics are perfect.
Sorry, I'm not at all knowledgeable on the topic. What I meant was the idea that someone might have repressed memories could have been more familiar to Evan than the existence of narcissists and their behaviour - because it was at times a sensationalist topic.
She seems to have only learnt about narcissists in the last few years and is still educating herself today.
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From Jessicka's ig story
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I am begrudgingly proud of Kaya. Her fans are really young, niaeve and more than likely huge Manson fans. To shame post a fan & to speak out like this and not support him is a really pure thing to see.
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More caps from the discord. Also, it doesn’t show Lindsay directly asking but anyone remember when Leslee Lane harassed Madelyn? >>1089260
And this? >>1153714
True but we don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. Just like how Annie posted about Lindsay calling her and screaming threats at her we don’t know if something else happened between Evan and Lindsay, if there was some confrontation that turned threatening.
Not that I believe her but I remember a while ago Madelyn claiming Lindsay had sent awful letters to Dita. I wouldn’t put anything past her honestly.
Yes… and depending on what kind of photos, that could also be considered revenge
I keep seeing idiots on the Manson Reddit claiming there’s no proof Born Villain is actually Leslee Lane, just look at their profile picture on the discord, it’s the same woman in the Leslee Lane IG profile. >>1089260
If Leslee took the photos she obviously knows Manson.
Manson. She apparently used to date Rudy Coby and they all lived together.
This is what I don't understand - this idiot Leslee is on IG taking full responsibility for everything, knowing that Evan has filed a police report?
It makes me wonder if police have already contacted her or she's spoken to a lawyer and doesn't think they can do anything. Or she just is truly stupid.
She lives in another state from where the police report was filed, so I hope they are investigating.
>>1155061>Not that I believe her but I remember a while ago Madelyn claiming Lindsay had sent awful letters to Dita. I wouldn’t put anything past her honestly.
Don't believe anything she says, she's nuts.
Lindsay/Dita/Manson are all friends, theres recent-ish pictures of them all hanging out together over the last couple of years.
She's just a fan. The only reason she's so well-known in the fandom is because she harasses victims
. Nothing special about her.
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She finally took the gallery link out of her bio. How embarrassing, to brag how you’re being represents by the same gallery as Guy Bourdin and going to do a show in Italy. Now she has nothing that makes her look she might actually be a working photographer.
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How does she have so many people agreeing with her in the comments? All of those comments sound fake
Half a million followers? Yeah okay… she needs to keep buying bots so she can make more of a fool of herself than she already looks.
No wonder he married her… she’s just as vile as him.
What a logic. There is now like 10 plus women telling he is abusive
, but since 1 person says he didn't abuse her despite her being foreigner, it must mean other women are liars".
also lol. "female priviledge"
Wasn't she caping for him months before all this came out because he got rid of Jeordie White?
If she's trying to say she never knew about all this shit, it's definitely a lie. "I have zero affiliation", but she lost her shit and wrote "Author Unknown" about him when he downplayed her status/their friendship to her being a groupie in his book, lmao.
That post if you can find it on facebook, was originally badmouthing manson, then she edited it to get rid of the badmouthing after manson got rid of twiggy.
Jess also alienated and lost all of her friends a few years ago. She's a bit of a trainwreck herself.
Hell no. She lies and then some. We’ll have to agree to disagree.
In other news I notice that Depp has deactivated and some ppl close to him have privated their accounts.
Agree on LDR thing
Annie is probably the only one with any recording evidence but she doesn't seem to know what to make of it. It's all recordings of him pretty much talking to himself instead of talking with her, lol. I hope she actually starts posting him threatening her, shouting at her, idk just clear evidence of abusive
behaviour and not random drunk shit like Manson bragging about smuggling drugs, cause that's offtopic unimportant stuff. She somewhat proved she knows him, now get to point. Even a few seconds of recording, not just mentioning that it exists somewhere. Not saying Lasagna Del Rey wasn't a "quality contribution" to all ridiculousness but now being all serious, i expected her to have something worse>>1155371
But then again maybe you're right here anon, it shows his ugly side… unfortunately it will be dismissed by apologists "ooh but it's not abuse!"
Has Evan ever said anything about that old website intro footage where he punches her repeatedly? I can't find anything. It's horrible, like parts of it look like real abuse footage or at least staged up thing that went too far at some point. Even if it's staged it's fucked up to roleplay wife beater
The LDR was just so pointless.
Annie claims to have this evidence of abuse, so if you want to show people what he's like maybe release that. Why put out something so relatively minor at the expense of another woman.
So far ERW has told the world MM is a serial abuser and rapist.
What has Annie actually contributed? Told us that MM is a drunk loser who may call you fat behind your back?
It's all so sad.
This is the old MM website intro.
Footage of ERW is at the endhttps://youtu.be/ypfA9Scwpj0
MM has long toyed with fake snuff footage so it's difficult to day whether this is real abuse or a choreographed video to seem edgy.
Surely if it's real you would have to be one stupid motherfucker to put it online.
Anyone with half a brain knows he’s not the greatest guy. As a fan, I’ve known that. But what I want to see is evidence of the ABUSE. That’s a serious allegation. But a lot of these “victims
” are just beating around the bush on Instagram.
>>1155425>But what I want to see is evidence of the ABUSE
Are you telling us Corey Feldman talking about satanic spies isn't enough for you?
Didn't you hear those leaked calls where manson admitted to taking drugs through customs.
This is a man that who hack phones and laptops better than the FBI and can force people to ditch their best friends (through psychic vampire energy?)
He may have played your typical boy-next-door character for the past 30 years, but the truth is he is a real jerk.
We don’t know if it’s actual punching or just for show. Because the second time her head goes back without a hand to the face.
I doubt he’d upload a video of him abusing someone for real lol.
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Disgusting. Foul. Deplorable.
If your really think that in that video she is getting punched you don't know what a punch on the face feels like. That is staged.
I'm not saying she didn't get abused, obviously the video is very degrading in its edginess, but it is fake.
CF said on insta that MM would send satanic spies to his house.
There a screencap earlier in the thread as well.>>1155451
That's ERW in what appears to be here getting punched, or at least them playing the part.
Anyone know if this footage was on fact real, couldn't ERW have taken other action such as having the video removed? It seems difficult to think a real video of such physical abuse could just be left online.
The video does also need to be looked in the context of this 'scene'.
Trent Reznor was similarly involved in the infamous Broken video which was made specifically to look like a real snuff video.
There's a lot of grey area in all this.
Is the footage real?
Is it a re-enactment of real abuse occurring in their relationship?
Was it MM acting out real fantasies he would later perform for real?
Or is it all just more bullshit theatre and unrelated to ERW later abuse claims.
TR built his studio in the house Tate was murdered and even named the studio Le Pig after the writing which was written on the front door in the victims
blood. A door he later kept for himself.
It's par for the course.
By all accounts TR seems like a stand up guy and a lot more mature than his 90s heyday.
You can't look at a lot of these lyrics and things as being necessarily indicative of much more than posturing. Although they take on a more sinister interpretation in light of recent accusations.
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photo of Manson's bedroom see the black lamp on the right? in the youtube video of him punching Evan you can see the black lamp and the large poster and small picture behind her. The video of him punching her is real. If you slow the video down to .25 you can see his hand twice, it is very quick but it is there
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Manson uses these lights in the video
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He posed Evan against the wall and called the picture "nosebleedwall" this was from his myspace
There’s evidence of abuse right here in this thread. Blackmail, death threats, messages/texts.
I kinda doubt we’re getting video evidence of physical or sexual assault. That’s difficult to document for victims
. Fans have said their phone is taken before meeting him. Manson is good at concealing crimes. >>1155461>>1155467
It’s not even hard to believe. He stated in interviews that he collects John Wayne Gacy paintings and recreated murder scenes with is ex Melissa.
if it was staged why did he take the video off his website?
it's real, this fucker put his crimes out in plain sight
I saw they were selling her prints at $5000 each, but the cost of her MM print was POA. It was a pretty generic photo at that.
I wonder how much they were hoping to get out an unremarkable photo.
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There's something strange with this.
ERW says Lindsay has tried to release photos of her while high and drunk and under 21yo.
She says she was given these substances, meaning she wasn't forced to take them.
So she goes to a show, engages in illegal activity and is blackmailed.
Is there a chance ERW is trying to frontrun incriminating evidence of her past that would cause a problem with her current success and employers?
Right. Who cares? Partying teen is not going to blow any minds.
To use as blackmail seems silly.>>1155530
She said it around the time of the nazi photo so maybe? Or maybe there some photos of her holding a champagne.
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The level of despair:
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How long before we hear Woody Allen locked Evan Rachel Wood in his sex helicopter(ban evading sperg)
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1. What is so hard about stepping up and just not answering the phone or ditching bad friends? He's not a family member you feel compelled to keep in your life.
2. Sounds like Brian is already onto his next career as ubereats delivery man
Anon I can barely understand it either, he is so fucking wasted on this one. Heres the best I can do with #1:
>It's like, it's, men, violence against men..it's kinda looked over, I'm not saying I'm innocent in anything, except being …Whatever, I'm not so sweet, but I didn't do what she said, especially if she admitted it(?), and then on top of it.. imagine the kind of psychological abuse, what I'm going thru every fucking night, I can't sleep, every night, I have to fucking take medication to sleep every night, because every morning I except to wake up with some bullshit that isn't true, and I can't get over it
Way to go Annie! The smoking gun.
We now have Manson on tape… denying any involvement and contributing nothing of value.
Ffs. A woman has come out making an accusation of severe abuse and rape, and this idiot uses it to release private information which says nothing.
Sure. As submitted evidence they may be invaluable.
Releasing that manson has a crude nickname for Lana Del Rey which causes hundreds of website to repeat it along with photos of her looking big? Not seeing the value there.>>1155592>The teen angst scribbles on the wall… this is a 50 year old man
I don't think anyone other than the most hapless of 'fans' are going to consider manson anyone other than a juvenile junky
I agree its body shaming.
Body shaming both Annie and ERW now peddle in.
This guy has dozens of accusations against him, spanning decades. Was it necessary to body shame LDR in the process? Was this evudence the nail in the coffin?
I don’t think she’s implying it’s Manson himself but people he hired to fuck with her. She admits she doesn’t know if it’s related.
What I’m curious about is how they got involved in the first place, do they know each other irl or was it all online? Why was he obsessively calling her when he and Lindsay were married. Not that marriage means shit to him.
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>this person is not responsible for their actions
>evil Brian makes them do things against their will, like actively participate in their phone calls and laugh at his shitty jokes. Teehee.
WHAT I PICKED UP: Sounds like he was hooking up with his mom and didn't know it and Evan was like, "dude that ain't normal" and somehow her dad got into it and talked about it with him and it made him cry but then after he talked to her dad she broke up with him (probably by her dads request because what else would you do if your 20 something year old daughter was dating an unhinged shock rockstar that just mentally realized he slept with his own mother)
People are judging the girl who posted these recordings saying they're not "milky" enough but if him having relations with his own mother isn't milky and exposing….idk what is.
….and he had the nerve to make fun of other peoples molestation stories…bruh that's your MOM
It's called fawning. It's a survival tactic victims
adapt to not upset their abusers. She shouldn't have agreed with him, but she obviously regrets it.
It's fawning. I was in an abusive
relationship once and I went out of my way to agree with my ex just so he wouldn't get angry because then it can escalate. Phone or not, it's a scary situation to be in. Especially because Annie said that she only started recording him after he threatened her once.
PS: you sound like Brian.
>>1155630>It's called fawning.
Its called refusing to take accountability for your actions.
1. Just don't pick up the phone
2. "Look Brian, I'm going to go do my own things and drift off. Your a nice guy, I just want to be by myself. I wish you well"
3. Continur to participate and enable Brian's bullshit which you claim is abusing you
She probably does regret it now because it's pathetic.
I was one of the anons.
If she was his publisher, that certainly changes the context for me and I retract my comments.
Again, is this you, Brian??? That's not how it works in abusive
relationships. They brainwash you, manipulate you and gaslight you. The fact that she is owning up to it is something most people wouldn't do. Most people wouldn't release recordings where it makes them look bad but she did it anyway.
Those comments on her video are def fake, and she is also deleting comments that disagree with her
Idk who is paying those people to write those comments but they can't be fucking real
This woman is not safe
She should leave her house asap(lolcow.farm/info)
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OK Brian. All those comments seem valid
to me. Even Linda Strawberry commented on her posts. Ashley Walters liked her posts. Illma Gore liked her posts. Gabriella liked her posts. The girl is legit.
I have the feeling that this never happened, the threats I mean.
Those pictures were out on instagram and are not damaging at all?
Is like Evan is making stupid little thing looks bigger and menacing.. Between this and the satanic spies, good luck to any other victim
of abuse that will come forward after this
Wow, you're working overtime trying to discredit victims
Anons, my bad. I was certain Annie mentioned being his publisher and looked thoroughly through her insta but there's nothing there about what their relationship was about exactly. She does hint at something professional in her first messages but that's just speculations on my side. Sorry.>>1155689
Lindsay harassed other women in his life, take a browse through the previous threads.
There’s screenshots of Leslee Lane admitting to blackmailing EWR and that Lindsay asked her to do it. Are you denying reality?
It’s not your place to determine if a photo is damaging to HER.
That makes perfect sense.
Regardless, she already brought irrefutable proof she knew him and had direct contact with him so anons trying to discredit her in the thread are grasping at straws.
Concerning the video for "I Want To Kill You…", I filmed it with a Brittish actress and I also directed something brutal, and which will probably never be released for legal reasons with my ex girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood. For the time being I'm still sure of nothing. It's a violent portrait I made in only one shot. The spectator will have to decide by himself, after seeing it, of the way he's feeling the thing. I watched it and it's very disturbing as it represents an "emotional insight" of our relationship. My house became a sort of perpetual shooting and I'm very happy of all I've been able to capture.
Marilyn Manson, interview for RockOne, June 2009
Translated from Frenchhttp://www.nachtkabarett.com/TheHighEndOfLow/Era#tursas
sorry can't screenshot it
"and I also directed something brutal, and which will probably never be released for legal reasons with my ex girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood."
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Holly fuck. This has been posted before but hadn't quite catch this right there. Brian would go on a rampage should things not go his way? What the fuck? Lindsay better watch her arse.
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I almost feel called out because this would be me going pfhhtt at her claims even though I hate him. But she's right tbh and I'm trying to put myself in her shoes and this would really suck and be horrifying. I can't blame her for wanting to keep a public record of it no matter what people think.
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>>1155721>"and I also directed something brutal, and which will probably never be released for legal reasons with my ex girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood."
Keep in mind the context. This was said during a period MM was making his fumbling dalliances with film making. He was trying to emulate transgressive film makers, such as Jodorowsky.
A film clip of his (Born Villain?) being a direct rip off of The Holy Mountain.
These comments look unsavoury in light of recent allegations, but to take them out of context would be disingenuous.
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Hate to burst your bubble but she didn’t copy that from her, she got it from this, and only proves she knows what Manson does and part of the sick shit he does.
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Manson letter from 2006
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Know you so well got my tickets to hell….
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LOL Manson is talking about “deep fakes”. For one, anyone would be able to spot a deep fake. There’s no way he can concoct a believable deep fake on anyone. Deep fakes are not advance enough yet.
I'll be pleased to be proved wrong.
Until she releases something more than recordings of a bloated drug addict, ill take anything she claims with a grain of salt.
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You all are replying to the exact same autistic typing anon who was mass posting to discredit Evan yesterday. When you see him just ignore him and report his posts.
>>1155773>Their evidence is that they clearly knew him so I'd take her word over yours any day of the week
Brian knows ERW and he said he totally didn't do it, so… by your logic, this becomes gospel truth.
Case closed. Bake em away toys.
He actually never denied the allegations of ERW.
He pretended it was consensual. Which is possibly the worst possible statement ever made in this type of situation.
Brian has 0 plausible deniability
Yeah Annie said it herself, you can only take her word for it. It's right there on her statement. So not sure what point you're trying to make
You can give her the benefit of the doubt given she does have hours of recordings of him. No need to sperg on about taking her with a grain of salt ad nauseam in the thread every three messages.
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>>1155791>He actually never denied the allegations of ERW.>He pretended it was consensual
That's literally the definition of a denial.
Wow, bringing out the big guns with that cap are we. Let me spell it out for you because obviously you're a little slow in the upper department.
He never denied the actual allegations of him being violent and sexually abusive
. He pretended she agreed to it.
Now stop with your incessant infighting and Manson white knighting, this is embarrassing.
what a bullying asshole. imagine this cocksucker loser keeping receipts, pulling a chain of low grade PULL tier bitchery on you, and at the same time he’s making millions. how satisfying it must be to finally get this off your chest.
who cares about dita talking about self-actualization? she’s a literal airhead and probably thinks she saying something nice. also she actually doesn’t have to care about the person who helped wreck her marriage? idk, i think there’s a lot of reaching going on here. not all these offenses are on the same level in any way.
he also ripped off the dude who made begotten, who was going to sue until MM told him he’d be dragging it out in court as long as possible and the director (can’t remember his name) had no chance because MM had deeper pockets. he’s just a criminal asshole and a dumbfuck who read Might is Right! one too many times. fuck him.
What are you sperging about?
Since when is being cautious of unfounded claims mean someone supports Marilyn Manson. Are you completely retarded?
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She’s telling the truth. I can corroborate what she said. This where and why he is talking about deep fakes. >>1155767(Dawn)
E. Elias Merhige is his name.
Are you sure he tried to sue Manson? He went on to work on some film clip of his.
I wouldn't be surprised though. Manson has appeared to fuck over almost everyone who has had professional dealings with him.
Are we SERIOUSLY surprised that Manson is bragging about deepfakes? The edgelord Manson? I'd believe this if it came from a regular person, let alone a legit victim
Believe ALL women.
You can leave your misogynistic pursuit of 'evidence' and 'impartiality' in the dustbin of your putrid patriarchal upbringing.
Oh and btw, 'tranny' is deeply offensive.
Some woman have dicks. Get over it. It doesn't make them any less feminine.
I'm sageing all fields to detoxify this place of your evil aura.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Found this in his book. Don’t know how credible it is, but it speaks to his character.
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Manson is a liar. BDSM is HIS thing.
How did that go without any attention at the time? How did he think printing any of that was a good idea?
On a side note, imagine the fucking massive ego you need to (ghost)write your autobiography at 29 kek.
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Absolutely dying that Scrotemeal Osbourne and Mansonisinnocent (Madelyn?) think these emails are some kind of smoking gun. Wait wait wait- they all got together and talked about their collective trauma perpetrated by the same man before deciding to speak up together?! It’s a hit job!!!
No Scrote and Madelyn, it’s strength in numbers. The victims have been low key talking about this for years, and so they all came together to discuss their experience and encourage each other so they didn’t individually face it alone. All of us with a brain already figured they had all spoken to one another ahead of time, so this reveals ~nothing~
Osbourne et al don't have a functioning brain between all of them
If that's the best defense Brian has, he is toast
I love how one of his brain dead simps commented on Annie’s post “if we can survive columbine we can survive d list actresses” or something to that effect- meanwhile in his hand written letter above he mentions hating his fans and literally says “there is no we”
Imagine being this fucking obsessed with a man you don’t know and who hates you
@oatmealosbourne has dozens
of accounts and Lindsay would like and follow them. >>1123652
They stalk and harass victims
and faked dm’s from MIB.
They’re clearly unhinged.
kek NO kek
men can't be women, and a man like him especially has ZERO idea what it is like to be a woman. ready for that dumb shit to die out. thinking someone like Manson could "secretly be a woman" is misogynistic and a fucking insult towards women and survivors.
No, but he has a lot of childhood trauma (molested, beaten, bullied, domestic violence, mom had munchausen by proxy/schitzo, sexually deviant grandpa, religious trauma, etc etc) that instead of dealing with he covered up with drugs and the “rockstar lifestyle.” It’s pretty obvious he’s a classic case of someone who was victimized becoming the abuser, enabled by money and fame to become the most vile kind of person. I also heard a few accounts that he’s a “self-hating bisexual.”
Just because he wears makeup doesn’t make him a troon, he grew up influenced by kiss/Alice cooper/David Bowie etc
If you know about his life, watched interviews, read his book etc it’s pretty obvious why he’s the way that he is.(armchair)
Who paid her to make this video? Does manson think that this fake video and comments gonna help him?
Lmao its too late brian, to much shit got exposed
She’s taking to herself in these dm’s. This cap spells catfish as “cat-fish” >>1155826
which is how Dawn would consistently spell it. >>974128
Fuck off already fraud.
I thought person the who posted that text said their name is Brandi.
Also, how could she be talking to herself when the DM was dated in January of last year?
OT but as someone who regularly does deep fakes for fun, it's really not that hard to do them, it doesn't require anything crazy. I'm so sick and tired of this narrative that MM was some how 'tech savvy' to be able to 'hack' shit. He can't, he isn't that smart. Most likely he took people's phones/let people borrow his to log into their apple/google account, and got access to their account and messaging systems through that.
If there's anyone in this thread who's had this issue from him, just log into your apple/google etc account, go to settings/security, then force log out from all devices + turn on 2FA and change your password. If MM's logged into anyone's account it'll be forced to sign in again and he won't able to do shit unless he's some how able to SIM swap you which is a process in a half as is.
Like Dawn’s not capable of lying? LOL She’s been talking to herself since thread 3. >>985457
Dawn’s not helping ANYTHING by faking shit and posting here.
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Another fake video and comments?
just to add to this, MM trying to claim deepfakes is horse shit. Not only can you visually tell when it's a deep fake (even really good ones) there's software that can detect it.
I can't wait to hear him openly claim it and get torn to shreds.
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I am really curious about Jeanette Polard (Slasher girl) (died by suicide in 2006) Alyx Suttle (died in 2016 and I’ve found out it was a cardiac arrest but there is also a post from Jessicka from the time it happened saying that only Alyx would know the answer to how she died, so also potentially suicide), Teena Byrd (suspected suicide in 2014) and Titti Manson (suspected that she is dead). I’m not sure about Alyx Suttle but all of the rest loved Manson, went backstage and I just wonder if their experiences of him left them feeling worthless etc. It’s just quite chilling(lolcow.farm/info)
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The fact that they tagged #istandwithmanson says it all.
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That sounds familiar