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Previous Threads:
Marilyn Manson #1 : Fuck You Edition:
>>951424Marilyn Manson #2 : Chin of Sin Edition:
>>958209Marilyn Manson #3: In Search of Lost Tooth Edition:
>>969968Marilyn Manson #4: Fake PR Moves Edition:
>>982539—
Old thread bio updated.
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By popular request, one unified thread to collect all milk on Marilyn Manson, 51 year old drug addict, washed-up rocker, serial abuser and rapist still trying to live vicariously through his glory days of the 90s when he was still young and the drugs hadn't completely fried his brain.
> Accused by multiple ex girlfriends including Evan Rachel Wood of rape, physical, sexual, and emotional abuse, torture, forced confinement, and forced drug use.> Uses his barely legal fanbase to find young girls to groom, abuse and take advantage of while dangling the same one liners of helping with their careers, putting them in a music video or wanting a serious relationship.> Publicly talked about wanting to beat Evan Rachel Wood's skull in with a sledgehammer.> May or may not be using multiple sockpuppet emails to harass and stalk girls, alleged to have fake Model Mayhem account to find 18 year old girls to groom under the guise of photographing them.> May have had a sexual relationship with Lilith Levisis (also a cow; see thread) when she was underage, tried to pit her against his other girlfriend at the time, Gabriella.> Has an assistant (sockpuppet?) named Judd who has been implicated in verbal and emotional abuse and stalking towards young girls.> Long term drug addict and alcoholic who hit the wall going 100 m/h then got liposuction and tried to claim the bruises were from being beat up by Lindsay.> Torpedoed his marriage to Dita Von Teese over 10+ years ago and still trying to remake every girl he dates into her image.> Long term on and off relationship with Lindsay Usich, 35 year old NEET and Dita skinwalker who met him when she was 25 and has been implicated in verbal abuse and stalking herself, using his phone to send nasty message to other women he is dating or friends with, and being violent to fans.No significant social media links, except for the official @marilynmanson.
Lindsay Usich's instagram is @lindsayusichofficial, comments disabled.
Discussed in First Thread:
> Receipts from multiple accounts discussing accusations of abuse/assault by many including: Evan Rachel Wood, Esme Bianco, Clare Buley, Louise Keay Bell, and Ashley Morgan.> Harassment and death threats from Manson and/or orbiters including ex assistant Judd and anonymous "online troops".> Horrorshow performances from Lindsay and Mom Hope Harvey harassing and talking shit about/to Manson fans.> Also discussion of just who is controlling who in the Manson/Lindsay relationship.> @mansonisabusive kindly shared many receipts and info.> Paranoia and suspicion a-go-go about general circus that surrounds El Chinno Manson and his Hollywood Hareem.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>> 951424Discussed in Second Thread:
> More receipts, maybe from whacko liars, maybe from genuine victims of the Manson Sleaze Wagon.> Lindsay concentrates all efforts into sharing updates from blissful Covid cohabitation, inc lots of plants, cats, other sickly stuff but most importantly - usually flashing what looks like an engagement ring.> Also shares a post from her cousin, who speaks of an encounter with Manson, in which Manson refers to Lindsay as his "fiancé".> Farmers work out this anecdote actually reveals that the "engagement" happened about six years ago.> It's decided once and for all that Madelyn is a deluded pick me, although entertaining. Made a half-hearted attempt not to give her any more airtime as she self-posts and encourages orbiters to post.> A slew of other batshit fans come to light.> @mansonisabusive IG account visits and shares very interesting caps. We thank her.> Still waiting for the @666fearless full story.> Die Antwoord/Zheani/Manson connection is mentioned. Zheani has dirt on Manson, but no one knows what.> Discussion of Linday's catfish accounts including Ticklish Witch, Mina Lowry and others.> Talk of superfan turned superhater, Tiziana Collins aka Titti, and whether she faked her own death to return as her own mother.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the second thread for:>>958209Discussed in Third Thread:
> Receipts Lindsay fought with ex side chick, Viktoria (Twitter: @LaPetitMort_), and made Viktoria's personal information public via her Twitter.> Receipts from Viktoria's twitter of Marilyn Manson talking shit about John 5 (with whom he was about to tour).> Extensive evidence of Lindsay's full-of-cheap-bots followership, poor PR and desperate attempts to build a career for a 35 year old NEET at a last minute.> Manson and Lindsay's engagement announcement (with zero media coverage no matter how hard they tried).> Louise Keay Bell, one of the victims, came to the thread to milk her trauma and change the narrative of her experience with Manson when no one had been talking about her.> Receipts Manson sent legal threats to Louise Keay Bell, receipts of Louise Keay Bell and Jessicka Adams claiming Manson had sex with underage girls.> Receipts Lindsay was grooming girls for Manson.> A social statement of Louise Keay Bell saying Lindsay was part of Manson's sexual assaults.> Even though Louise Keay Bell was very vocal on her recent abuse case when nobody actually asked her, she was not brave enough to address anything from the above.> Proof of staff molesting female fans and abusing their position.> @fearless666, aka Michelle, abuse case fully revealed, some anons questioned her credibility.> More evidence of his abusive, toxic, racist, misogynistic behavior from various interviews.> Proof that Manson forces his orbiters to sign NDAs.> Poor fake and full of shit PR moves.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>969968Discussed in Fourth Thread:
> A video of Manson admitting to fucking underage girls on stage.> Madelyn was accused by anons of sitting outside of Manson's house in her car on Lindsay's birthday. A photo Madelyn had taken of herself in her car and a few of Hope Harvey's tweets (quoted) from before she went privately were posted as proof.> Questioning why Hope went private in the first place. Deduced that Manson's lawyer probably reached out to her because she was sharing too much personal information.> Talk of an account (@_noname666_) that commented on one of Madelyn's posts, mocking her and her "relationship" with Manson.> More conversation about Madelyn. She allegedly messaged an anon, and they somehow found out that she was a trust fund kid.> Suspicion of whether Lindsay and Manson are already married or not after he posted a photo on his IG page, wearing what looked like a wedding band with the caption, "The Price of Darkness."> Receipts of now deleted hate accounts and subscriptions that Louise Keay Bell posted. @666fearless was also being harassed. Both blamed Judd/Manson for it.> Screens from a website claiming Lindsay had a "baby bump". Debunked as a hoax.> Dawn (@missdangerx, @guitargunn, and possible other accounts) splurging and accusing Manson of being a pedophile. Also claims that he had a fake FB account (Mark Peak II) and harassed her, using her personal phone number. Passed off as a troll.> @_noname666_ joined the thread for a bit, revealing that Manson's was (allegedly) formally diagnosed with both bipolar and narcissistic disorders. He was prescribed lithium that he sometimes forgets to take, which is supposed to be an excuse for his behavior. Alludes to Manson being Lindsay's financial supporter and main source of income, even during periods where they weren't living together.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>982539 No. 1013244
>>1013242She said "Accusing someone of doing what you did to them 4 years ago is psychopathic and disgusting. Projecting once again, dear narcissist. I have nothing to hide, but you do"
Honestly doesn't sound like it's for Lindsay. Has anyone ever considered he is the person she bitching bout
(samefagging) No. 1013327
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>>1013244From her latest IG story.
I don't think Manson would press legal charges against her. He enjoys the attention too much, and her account benefits him. I think Lindsay either made him do it or she did it herself.
>>1013305She's still connected to Manson, though. Maybe we should just talk about her in the Psycho Fangirls thread or make her her own.
No. 1013340
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>>1013244It’s not about him. A fan account posted a story saying that Madelyn has been harassing Lindsay for years and asked everyone to report her and all her other instagram accounts, and now she’s trying to pretend like she didn’t just spend the last few years devoting her life to slandering L on the internet which is cuckoo.
No. 1013347
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>>1013340I will lol so hard if it turns out Lindsay asked them to post this. That's her style
talking to a fan account? check
leaking information to a fan account? check
Bc a complete stranger would hardly assume that justice for him and mansonisinnocent both are run by Madelyn. Are they dope? Yep. Any evidence it's Madelyn behind them? Nope. What's more she never posted anything directly about Lindsay on her justice and innocent pages.
Everyone around him is so dumb.
Btw guess who rushed to collab with a black artist hoping that'll save his racist ass?
pic related
No. 1013348
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>>1013347samefag
with tits like these he is milky indeed lmao
No. 1013368
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What’s up with Manson’s latest story? He shared Mansonstyle’s post with Taylor Swift’s song, Look What You Made Me Do with two guns. The post itself emphasizes the lyrics, “Oh, 'cause she's dead!"
Tinfoil, but list, guns, dead.. I think it’s a threat.
No. 1013375
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>>1013368Lindsay had the same story too so maybe it’s a crackdown on the harassment? Are people even still harassing her?
No. 1013403
>>1013375So Lindsay is threatening people too.
Idk if it’s about harassment but most fan accounts seem to kiss her ass now.
No. 1013446
>>1013368>>1013375>>1013430He reposted a post from fan account in his story.Lindsay did the same
Also he reposted another post from fan account, his paintings. Story is still there.
Both fan accounts have many followers. They are trying to show they respect their effort or something. The other fan account is a fan of them together. It could be lindsay using his phone again,if he never done something like 5this before, I don't know.
No. 1013460
>>1013459True, I didn't notice that.
But still ,interacting with fan accounts publicly is a new thing.
>>1013348He didn't get significantly bigger in quarantine.
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No. 1013722
>>1013694Know for a fact?
The Manson threads have had more trolls then I’ve ever seen on lolcow. Idk if it’s Manson but it’s obvious some people don’t want us posting about his abuse.
No. 1013801
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/27/johnny-depp-anger-based-on-deep-misogyny-amber-heardThere are some similarities in the abuse stories. Legal procedure is not over yet but still, just take a look. Things in common are base for lifelong friendships.
Also @weissekatze account is private now.
No. 1013814
>>1013801They may share the same views on women, but I don't think it goes much farther than that. His ex-girlfriends have made statements saying that he wasn't
abusive during their relationships, and most of the time that type of thing repeats itself.
No. 1013830
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>>1013340Why the fuck is Lindsay bitching to a fan about Madelyn, does she not have friends of her own? I get Madelyn is psycho, I dislike her too, but that’s messed up that Lindsay would try to get fans to bully and report her accounts on her behalf.
Btw, Lindsay is
still buying bots and she’s been posting/tagging Marissa Zappos often lately, she’s probably trying to get her own perfume line? Fake followers doesn’t make her a celebrity.
No. 1013956
>>1013833That’s the thing too, Lindsay has harassed other women (Teale Coco, Viktoria, etc.) and if what noname666 and Amie Nicole Harwick wrote is true, blackmails Manson. I don’t feel sorry for him but their relationship sounds extremely
toxic. Lindsay has the nerve to complain about Madelyn? Whatever.
Lindsay comes across as.. boring. Flowers, cats, books, and old photos. It must suck to live with Manson. She probably doesn’t have much else going on hence why she often talks to fans.
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WTF is this shit? A new title? ‘We Are Chaos’? That kind of reminds me a little of Corey Taylor’s title to the Slipknot album ‘We are Not Your Kind’.
Something really shady happening here.
Both musicians who stole and copied off the same woman, and then made the same bullshit allegations.
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>>1014162First the book… now this title.
No. 1014253
>>1014240Yes Corey did. He used a poem I wrote and used it for a song. That was way before Manson and that’s a whole other situation.
You obviously have below average IQ if you can’t see Manson took yet another post to use for a title.
I’m not trying to get attention. I’m posting this so that asshole knows I’m not stupid. He knows who I am. How do you think he made the false allegations?
No. 1014260
>>1013814Not exactly true (imo)
Abusers naturally seek a specific kind of person, someone they view as weak. The subconscious/consciously WANT to have a power dynamic so they seek specific people they feel might submit, someone with vulnerabilities or low self esteem.
Evan: young and naive
Louise: young and naive.
Lilith: young
Esme: probably insecure and since she's English probably didn't have family that could intervene.
Jordyn: emotionally vulnerable
Lindsay: no income of her own because she's been in a ten year relationship
I think the girls he didn't abuse (stoya, Dita, rose) were spared because all of them had their own careers, all of them had other men lusting over them so he probably didn't abuse them because their probably confident enough to leave him (what the did)
No. 1014351
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Anons needn't have hurried with a new thread.
There is nothing more cringy than this.
It should have been the main pic.
He's announced song titles of the new album, cringesome too.
1 Red Black And Blue
2 We Are Chaos
3 Don’t Chase The Dead
4 Paint You With My Love
5 Halfway And One Step Forward
6 Infinite Darkness
7 Perfume
8 Keep My Head Together
9 Solve Coagula
10 Broken Needle
>Paint You With My Love
probably with bruises…
No. 1014370
>>1014351Whoa, that was
terrible.. so far fans on reddit/Twitter are trashing it.
No. 1014371
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>>1014351samefag
I was wrong. As the video plays it gets more and more cringy.
Here comes Dawn's proof MM is a pedo.
omg I am fan of his early albums, wtf happened. Okay he is a bastard of all kinds in his personal life, trash in person but his art
used to be great. WTF?
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>>1014371Yeah. I’ve been a fan of his art for 15 years, I even like his newer stuff, but that was embarrassing. The video looks like it was made in iMovie. I don’t have high hopes for the album.
Lindsay was quick to comment that they’re married. Lmao
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>>1014395Lindsay is insufferable. How's that even relevant? 'We will keep it private' didn't age well, ha?
I checked a newsletter from MM official website.
These lines give me flashbacks to Lindsay's highlights and interviews. They are so original lol. And she tries so hard to be part of his 'art'.
Oh well.. from Dita to Lindsay, from great videos to that shit..
No. 1014433
>>1014417She tries so hard to be a part of his life. LOL
Maybe somebody will finally cover the happily ever after in the press?
She can use public transportation if she steps out of the house without him and nobody would notice. Stop trying to be a celebrity. It ridiculous.
No. 1014503
>>1014488Meh, all fanbases are like that. It did get far more likes then dislikes on YouTube.
I was never a fan of him, liked and listened to couple of songs but if this one was all I've heard years ago, I wouldn't even bother to check him out any further.
He said the new album is a masterpiece.He said a mouthful based on this song.
No. 1014517
>>1014503Idk, Manson fans tend be extra about it.
Bring up his abuse or question his behavior and you get jumped, which is why he’s probably gotten away with it for so long. His fans will make excuses for anything.
No. 1014554
>>1014255Do you understand the concept of intellectual property theft? That’s what taking ideas from someone is.
I don’t know what I can say or not say, but he made these insane allegations sometime around Dec. 2018. Now he obviously knew somebody to do this. In March of this year he had a fucking search warrant and had all my electronics taken. Exactly what Evan described in her testimony he does.. And that’s also abuse what he did to me.
No. 1014566
>>1014554You didn’t invent the word chaos, your caption wasn’t even close.
So now you’re on lolcow to talk about a legal case and bring this up 5 threads in?
A search warrant is only issued by a judge after probable cause is shown. Meaning Manson was able to show guilt on your behalf. You’re claiming Manson filed charges against you? You’d be able to prove that.
You can’t/won’t even answer basic questions. I’m thoroughly convinced you’re a troll helping Manson with false allegations.
Evan said he downloaded spyware on her electronics, big difference from them being confiscated by the police.
No. 1014575
>>1014566I don’t mean he did exactly what he did to her. I mean what she described is like what Manson does when you try to expose him.
Yes he made charges. What proof do you mean? This is all stuff that was going on in person. And no, a search warrant doesn’t automatically mean someone is guilty. Did I get arrested? NO. Yeah I bet he was all crying when I didn’t…
Because I’m not guilty of what he’s accusing me of. It’s a LIE.
As I said, I bet he knew someone to get that.
What basic questions are you talking about?
No. 1014592
Lyrics:
If you say that we're ill
Just give us your pill
Hope we'll just go away
But once you've inhaled death
Everything else is perfume
Maybe I'm just a mystery
I could end up your misery
Maybe I'm just a mystery
I could end up your misery
In the end we all end up in a garbage dump
But I'll be the one that's
holding your hand*
We are sick, fucked up and complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
We are sick, fucked up and complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
Maybe I'm just a mystery
I could be your misery
Maybe I'm just a mystery
Marry with the left hand
So far so far from the mad'ning
crowd
We are sick, fucked up and
complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
We are sick, fucked up
and complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
Am I a man or a show, or moment
The man in the moon
Or a man of all seasons
Will I be in at the kill with you?
We are sick, fucked up and
complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
We are sick, fucked up and
complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
We are sick, fucked up and
complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
We are sick, fucked up and complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured
We are sick
I haven't listened to it yet, but it seems like the same broken, rebellious schtick he's always had. The video was almost funny. Maybe he was going for the whole raw, unproduced look. Or he just didn't have the means to make a better one because of quarantine. Maybe Lindsay helped, lol.
No. 1014595
>>1014575You would have paperwork if your electronics were confiscated by the police. Again, a search warrant is only issued if there’s probable cause:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_warrantDoes that mean you’re guilty? No, but Manson would have had to show police reason for the warrant. If it was someone he knew, that means police and a judge were in on it.
Anons have asked several questions in the previous threads that you ignored.
What did he charge you with?
How did you give Manson your phone number?
How did you meet?
What do you hope happens in your case?
No. 1014663
>>1014595I didn’t answer certain questions because I can’t discuss those things right now.
And I’m not going to say what he accused me of either because it’s total bullshit and laughable. He completely lost his fucking mind.
> What do you hope happens in your case?Well for start… this dumb crap obviously needs to get dismissed because it’s absolutely absurd.
> You would have paperwork if your electronics were confiscated by the police. Again, a search warrant is only issued if there’s probable causeI do have paperwork but it has personal information on it. This is Marilyn Manson we’re talking about, all probable cause goes out the window. Because whatever he showed, there is no way in hell that would warrant for this. It’s an abuse of power.
No. 1014665
>>1014663You can’t discuss details that would make your story somewhat
valid but you can make wild accusations on a gossip site? Seems legit.
Hmm.. what charges would require taking your electronics.. stalking?
We already know you’re name is supposedly Dawn and your profile says Vegas, you can cover personal info.
If you can’t show proof there’s no reason to believe you. What’s the point if you can’t back up your accusations.
No. 1014686
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>>1014665Uh, actually they don’t give one specific reason why they would take electronics. There could be a lot of reasons why they do.
And I will discuss those details… just not right now.
But here is the proof. I obviously had to black out the personal information.
No. 1014693
>>1014686Still difficult to believe you, you could have taken this from google images. No name is on it and you don’t show what property was taken. Why black out the police department if the address says Las Vegas.
Why can’t you discuss it now? You can’t even answer how you met Manson?
No. 1014696
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Totally no real contribution to the current discussion BUT this picture made me laugh (with discomfort)
No. 1014885
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This is out of the blue, but fuck. Madelyn really got BOTCHED. That boob job is really terrible. Her new boobs look totally anti natural and out of proportion with her figure.
Isn’t she constantly trying to be “elegant”? Because she looks tacky AF.
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>>1014693 I’ll discuss it on my time.
Google? lol You can’t find something like this on there. It doesn’t have my name, but it has where I live.
I didn’t think that part mattered… but you’ll probably still think I got it off google anyway. So think what you want, but I have all the paperwork; and eventually you’re gonna see this is all real.
No. 1015056
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>>1015029No, you’re fake as fuck because you refuse to answer any questions for over a year now, failed to prove any of your accusations, fabricated evidence, and seem to think Manson is bullying Christians which shows an agenda.
You claim Manson made a mystery charge against you, obtained a search warrant, and you hope to disprove the charges by.. acting a fool here?
Blast him on social media, sue him, I hope the he goes to jail. But why torture us here with your obvious bullshit when it helps Manson.
No. 1015093
>>1014885Why don't you make her a thread?
Another question
Why do anons talk to Dawn? Isn't it derailing the thread?
No. 1015548
>>1015538Thomas Hardy The madding crowd was what she referred to. Someone wrote that in comments section on MM IG post as explanation and she liked the reply from that person.
I'm gonna get banned for this because I'm supposed to post screenshot but I can't find that comment now. I just clearly remember reading it because I've also noticed her post being different from his lyrics. Didn't bother to look what that book is about and how it has anything to do with his song announcement either…
No. 1015551
From cliffsnotes-
Bathsheba Everdene has the enviable problem of coping with three suitors simultaneously. The first to appear is Gabriel Oak, a farmer as ordinary, stable, and sturdy as his name suggests. Perceiving her beauty, he proposes to her and is promptly rejected. He vows not to ask again.
Oak's flock of sheep is tragically destroyed, and he is obliged to seek employment. Chance has it that in the search he spies a serious fire, hastens to aid in extinguishing it, and manages to obtain employment on the estate. Bathsheba inherits her uncle's farm, and it is she who employs Gabriel as a shepherd. She intends to manage the farm by herself. Her farmhands have reservations about the abilities of this woman, whom they think is a bit vain and capricious.
Indeed, it is caprice that prompts her to send an anonymous valentine to a neighboring landowner, Mr. Boldwood, a middle-aged bachelor. His curiosity and, subsequently, his emotions are seriously aroused, and he becomes Bathsheba's second suitor. She rejects him, too, but he vows to pursue her until she consents to marry him.
The vicissitudes of country life and the emergencies of farming, coupled with Bathsheba's temperament, cause Gabriel to be alternately fired and rehired. He has made himself indispensable. He does his work, gives advice when asked, and usually withholds it when not consulted.
But it is her third suitor, Sergeant Francis Troy, who, with his flattery, insouciance, and scarlet uniform, finally captures the interest of Bathsheba. Troy, who does not believe in promises, and laments with some truth that "women will be the death of me," has wronged a young serving maid. After a misunderstanding about the time and place where they were to be married, he left her. This fickle soldier marries Bathsheba and becomes an arrogant landlord. Months later, Fanny, his abandoned victim, dies in childbirth. Troy is stunned — and so is Bathsheba, when she learns the truth. She feels indirectly responsible for the tragedy and knows that her marriage is over.
Bathsheba is remorseful but somewhat relieved when Troy disappears. His clothes are found on the shore of a bay where there is a strong current. People accept the circumstantial evidence of his death, but Bathsheba knows intuitively that he is alive. Troy does return, over a year later, just as Boldwood, almost mad, is trying to exact Bathsheba's promise that she will marry him six years hence, when the law can declare her legally widowed. Troy interrupts the Christmas party that Boldwood is giving. The infuriated Boldwood shoots him. Troy is buried beside Fanny, his wronged love. Because of his insanity, Boldwood's sentence is eventually commuted to internment at Her Majesty's pleasure.
Gabriel, who has served Bathsheba patiently and loyally all this time, marries her at the story's conclusion. The augury is that, having lived through tragedy together, the pair will now find happiness.
No. 1015600
>>1015548Yea. It's still not a real quote.
I found the Wikipedia definition much more interesting;
"Morganatic marriage, sometimes called a left-handed marriage, is a marriage between people of unequal social rank, which in the context of royalty prevents the husband's (or wife's) titles and privileges being passed on to the wife (or husband) and/or any children born of the marriage."
So she thinks she's subordinate to a rapist. How sad.
No. 1015602
>>1015551"Gabriel, who has served Bathsheba patiently and loyally all this time, marries her at the story's conclusion. The augury is that, having lived through tragedy together, the pair will now find happiness."
Sounds like a healthy relationship lmao
No. 1015708
>>1015697Maybe not proud of it but use to it.Honestly, I'm still not sure what to make of her: is she a calculated gold digger or a brainwashed
victim herself?
They have been together for 10 years,she obviously neglected her personal growth, as we see from the stuff she posts online. I honestly believe she thinks marrying Manson is her greatest achievement in life and that people are jealous of that. What woman in her right mind would marry a guy like that? I mean a guy with patterns of horrific
abusive behavior? No money is worth that.
No. 1015874
>>1015600I'm guessing a modern day morganatic marriage in their case would be a wealthy man (MM) and a lower rank woman (Lindsay) being in a relationship where he financially provides for her and gives her "rank by association" under his social status (her having social media accounts and going to events and what not) but then her allowing him to practice non monogamy with women at higher ranks than her (gorgeous Instagram models, random young celebs like Bella Thorne, traditionally beautiful women that would rise above the women he has the physical capacity to attract)
(Note: when I say "rank by association" I'm talking about connections in their case, like all the random art interviews she gets now and the verified social media pages. The red carpet pictures and name mentions given to her by her association with him publicly)
She's pathetic and weird. Jesus Christ, do these idiots even know how to properly read and interpret a book? Seeing Lolita as a love story and interpreting the book mentioned above as something positive? These two really know how to read classics and butcher the fuck out of the interpretations and authors true intent/message.
Such a weird,
abusive and degrading way of life. This man clearly lacks the capacity to give and receive love in normal ways. Imagine STILL doing weird bullshit like this at 50 years old. Poor Lindsay. Probably the reason almost every other woman he's engaged to ran for the fuckin hills before they can even the cake tastings.
No. 1015880
>>1015789He has literally stunted her career that's why she posts work that is years old. I read in this article that he prefers his girlfriends to not have careers of their own so his will always systematically fall first. I can't imagine what it's like being in a relationship with someone like him.
Granted she and Ashley started their careers together I'm surprised she's not a cofounder of Ashley's clothing line. Seems like he actively wants her to have nothing of her own unless he gives it to her/when he decides to give it to her/how he decides to give it to her and I'm guessing he can take it back as well. I bet if he told her to delete all her pictures and work offline, she would. Controlling
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I have a feeling Lindsay is so skinny and pale because he consumes most of the food in the household.
No. 1015947
>>1015883>>1015884What is it with him and food deprivation? ERW and Esme are the only ones who complained about that and being ridiculed if they didn't dress right. That is just so wierd. Do you think it's because at that time he felt like his own look starts to deteriorate so he felt jealous of them being skinny or what? Women before didn't mention he starved them or kept them awake.
I'm honestly surprised how he allowed to let himself go like that ,how he has no willpower to control his eating habits. Even drugs didn't manage to keep him skinny. Antipsychotic medication which he probably has to take for his mental disorder can make you fat but that could be taken care of with his amount of money by hiring a professional nutritionist.
No. 1016167
"Married with the left hand" is a complex metaphor and reads as a dig against Lindsey. I am not suggesting Manson is a lyrical genius, but he does know enough symbolism to encode double or even triple meanings in some of his songs, and (giving the devil his due) his wordplays are sometimes clever. "Married with the left hand" carries the morganatic marriage meaning already suggested, along with suggesting the "left-hand path," or path of self-glorification in contrast to the "right-hand path" of service to a deity or to humanity. However, the layer of meaning I find a bit funny is this… the left hand has from ancient times been associated with evil or uncleanness because prior to the advent of toilet paper, it was used as the wiping hand in some ancient cultures. This is one reason we shake with our right, not our left. So, Manson is essentially bragging about marrying Lindsey with shit-wiping hand, an apt metaphor for how much respect and love he has for his new bride. In contrast, the "right hand" was classically viewed as the place of honor or status; hence, Jesus is said to "sit at the right hand" of the Father, and a King's honored guest sits to his right. In other words, she is valued as much as the shit he wipes out of his ass in the morning, and she will never be given the better side of him or a place of honor in his life. Nice guy - and even sadder she appears proud of this lyric.
No. 1016266
>>1016167"So, Manson is essentially bragging about marrying Lindsey with shit-wiping hand, an apt metaphor for how much respect and love he has for his new bride."
LMAO!!! Thanks anon.
No. 1016399
>>1015947I don't believe that he purposely had them sleep deprived to control and I don't think he starved them as well, it seems like the pressure and stress of being with him
triggered eating disorders. Both Esme and Evan had their own income and team, Evan was still working on semi mainstream stuff and doing interviews, she most definitely had access to food if she wasn't so brain fucked.
I think the sleep deprivation thing has something to do with the fact that he basically works at night while Esme and Evan probably worked during the day. I'm guessing he sleeps during the day up until late afternoon while they're working and he probably expected them to be awake when he was awake.
I have no doubt he abused them but these were two resourceful women that had access to resources most domestic abusers don't (like their own income, having Hollywood take photos of them confirming theyre out in the public, work, probably their own talent agencies…etc) that being said they had way more control than most abused women and some of those wrongs stemmed from circumstances/behaviors they allowed. If either of them were to show up at tmz and say "Marilyn Manson beats the shit out of me, I need help" they would have public awareness and a way out. That is something a lot of women DONT have.
Just ask Shelly Miscavige. As an ex scientologist, I cant help but compare the situations to cult abuse. Her husband is the leader of scientology and he ripped her from the public eye and no one has seen her since. It's been almost a decade…
Esme and Evan definitely had a way out
No. 1016410
>>1016167Exactly.
"The heart guides the hand" (something intentional and positive with pure intent coming from the heart. Output from the heart and input into the physical realm)
And then… "married with the left hand" (something that is just surface level. Married with the left hand. Outside the body. Kind of like "I look down at my left hand and theres a ring there so I guess I'm married")
I interpret too many tarot cards for my own good.
No. 1016602
>>1016399They didn't. Both of them were mentally unstable when they met Manson. He manipulated his way into their hearts, isolated them from friends and family until they felt like they were completely alone.
Evan and Esmé both talked about "surviving on very little food" and their abuser not allowing them to eat.
You can even see how much weight Lindsay lost in the first two years on paparazzi pictures.
I don't think they had a big "team", maybe a manager and a stylist, that's it.
Evan and Esmé got out eventually, but they both suffer from ptsd now.
No. 1016611
>>1016602Nta,that's what all abusers do.
Idk but it's obvious Esme and Evan have always been more 'resourceful' than Lindsay.
Why do you think they both were mentally unstable when they met? Abusers are abusers for a reason. They can mess up mind of a seemingly well off person too. There's no need to dramatize, the story is fucked up quite enough.
No. 1016643
>>1016611Lindsay has a rich father. I also contacted this mynxii girl about the issue and she said she could get her out if Lindsay wanted to. Will add the screenshot later.
Esmé said on twitter that she just got out of an
abusive relationship when the shit with the next abuser (Manson) started.
Evan basically was a confused child star. I'll post all the screenshots when I have time to look for them.
No. 1016675
>>1016643nta it makes me wonder if Lindsay is
that lazy she cannot get herself out. If Manson had so much control over Evan and the latter managed to have love affairs in between their relationship, wtf is wrong with Lindsay. She has a lot of time on her hands, especially when Manson cheats on her with a random girl.
No. 1016693
>>1016675But I don’t think she wants to get out, that’s the thing. He’s publicly done and said such awful things to her and she still married him because she wanted to. We already know she romanticizes unhealthy relationships, and I think being the one woman who could “handle” Manson is a huge source of pride for her. The most likely scenario here is that they’re both fucked up and slightly
abusive to each other and it works for them. All the side chicks and public breakups are probably just a part of the game for both of them. Plus what else would you do if your only identity has been “being someone else’s partner”?
No. 1016719
>>1016602Some of this thread needs to work on their common sense.
If you search "Evan Rachel Wood" on YouTube you'll see that majority of the viral results are about her alleged "abuse" her abuse story has conveniently pulled her into mainstream media platforms like the today show. Her abuse has conveniently opened a ton of doors for her career. She spent majority of her career doing low budget indie films and now she's managed to climb her way up to Frozen 2 and a top HBO show. When she had her son she moved back to NC or whatever and I'm pretty sure it stunted her career and now she's acting like some activist or LGBTQ member because its trend.
I believe Esme but when it comes to Evan I'm skeptical. It seems like she's embarrassed of her actions (taking him from his wife) and just acting like a stupid child and now she's trying to create distance from that narrative by suggesting it was forced abuse.
No. 1016730
>>1016719Yeah, no.
Evan joined Westwood in 2016, she didn’t become vocal about her abuse until 2018 when she testified. She had a successful career beforehand.
No. 1016732
>>1016719Also “took him from his wife” lol. This 18 yr old girl did not take this grown ass man who does whatever the fuck he wants from his wife.
This post wreaks of Magalyn.
No. 1016741
>>1016730even though I don't agree with
>>1016719 she became vocal about her abuse in 2016, it was discussed in the second thread. she
testified in 2018 but gave a lot of interviews in 2016.
>>1016719it's ridiculous to have doubts about her case given everything he said in interviews+lyrics+videos and real footage of abuse. metoo started in sep.
2017 and ERW started talking about her experience in late
2016.
No. 1016898
Not sure if this is the place for lyrical analysis, but it is interesting to look at how Manson has glamorized abuse for decades in his music. Granted, he is a "shock rocker," but the recurring emphasis on abusing or degrading a romantic partner reveals something about his concept of "abuse as eroticism." For Manson, romance is never something happy or even conventionally sexual or alluring. It's all about pain and mutual abuse (he sees himself as abused and victimized, which justifies abusing and victimizing the women he dates). Just a VERY FEW examples of many:
Song: Into The Fire (High End of Low)
This is the film, close to the third act and the misery
It's not rain, you rapist werewolves
It's God pissing down on you
We'll die alone
Cause I'll break off my own arms
Sharpen my bones
Stab you once for each time I thought of you
Trying to take something
You'll never be good enough to even look upon
Isn't one nail without dirt under it
Isn't any white cotton panties that aren't soaked and stained red"
(Anyone remember the pic of Evan's panties soaked in blood in the last thread?)
The entire song "I Want to Kill You Like They Do in the Movies" - too long to post here. It's his self-admitted fantasy about murdering Evan.
Song: Leave a Scar (High End of Low)
So turn around and walk away
Before we confuse the way, we abuse each other.
If your not afraid of getting hurt
Then I am not afraid of how much I hurt you
I'm well aware I'm a danger to myself.
Are you aware I'm a danger to others?
There's a crack in my soul, you thought was a smile.
Song: Pistol Whipped (Born Villain)
You look so pretty
When you cry
Don't wanna hit you
But the only thing
Between our love is
A bloody nose
A busted lip
A blackened eye
These themes are less abundant in his pre-Evan work, but still present, as in the below…
Song: Para-noir (Golden Age)
I fuck you so I can fucking feel
Something
Instead of nothing at all
I fuck you because you are beautiful
I fuck you because you're my nigger
I fuck you because I'm your whore
I fuck you because you are a whore
Fuck you because I love you
Fuck you for loving you too
I don't need a reason to hate you the way I do
Song: Count to Six & Die (Holywood)
She's got her eyes open wide
She's got the dirt and spit of the world
Her mouth on the metal
The lips of a scared little girl
I've got an angel in the lobby
He's waiting to put me in line
I won't ask forgiveness
Song: Deformography (Antichrist)
"I lift you up like the sweetest angel
I'll tear you down like a whore.
Then there are these "great" videos for the songs Mephistopheles of Los Angeles and No Reflection that display his weird fetish for drowning women….
No. 1017158
>>1016898His use of the n word holds no philosophical or lyrical significance. This guy is just ignorant. I can see if he was using it as some commentary about society but in this context hes using it as some kind of degrading comment.
These rapper dudes he hangs with need to do their research and due diligence because this guy is just a racist and knows he can get away with it because he's marilyn manson.
Why these mainstream African American rappers give this fat fuck the time of day? I dont know. His image outshined his music a long time ago and now he's just trying to shock.
He could write a song with only one word (nigger) and mainstream media still wouldnt pay him any attention. I honestly think society was done with him once that shooting happened. He was cancelled before canceling people even existed
No. 1017161
>>1016898His
abusive nature will never leave. I don't understand how an only child can grow up to be this fucked up.
No. 1017865
>>1017458He's not even worth canceling tbh. Canceling someone would require the person to have a position in mainstream culture or influence over a large portion of society. He has neither.
The only person that seems to publicly like him is that lil uzi vert guy, and even then, it seems like the African American community still rejects him and the idea of him.
He went to this astroworld concert thing and it's my all time favorite clip because as soon as people spot him and lindsay walking everyone freezes and is like "what the fuck is that walking towards us"
https://youtu.be/DcjSyMqTTq0 No. 1018937
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This was in February.
She was kinda passive aggressive but I haven't seen her around Lindsay since.
I also removed the small talk because it's irrelevant.
No. 1019275
>>1019248She’d been wearing that diamond engagement ring since at least last year, the engagement didn’t seem new. I think this girl was saying “she can marry him next week if she wants and I’ll support that.”
What’s confusing to me is how are all these anons talking to all of these people? You’re just randomly messaging people going “hey talk to me about Lindsay”? And then they do?? Why?
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Texts between him and Gabriella(?), Reposted from the 2nd thread. I couldn't not lol at the way he speaks. He sounds like an incel.
No. 1020642
>>1020634There are other threads for other rockstars and celebrities with shitty personalities – granted, a lot of the older ones, like Steven Tyler, have gotten away with it because it happened in the 70s and there wasn't much media coverage at the time. This one focuses on Manson. Being famous doesn't give him (or anyone else) the right to abuse women and exploit fans.
I'd say it's partially the personality disorders that affects how he treats people, but he's also a product of his environment, in a way. He was spoiled by his parents, and now, his orbiters and girlfriends. If he could take some time to work on himself, alone, I'm sure his mentality would be a lot more stable.
No. 1020734
>>1020639That’s my first guess.
>>1020618You’re making sweeping generalizations. Also, look at what happens to those rockstars and celebrities that keep living that lifestyle - it eventually catches up with them. And I think Manson's has finally caught up with him.
No. 1020878
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Flabbriella still trying to figure Manson out years later. She threw in “recently dumped” to make it sound like she was talking about someone else. LOL. This was in 2019.
No. 1020893
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>>1020878Flabbriella? Why.
His other exes said he talked shit about Lindsay to them (blackmail, etc).
Manson also told Gabriella this. Lmao
No. 1020896
>>1020174Hi Lindsay. Of course you came across this milk, because all you do is sitting on your ass all day!
Let me help you:
Open relationships is a consensual agreement made by two or more people where they agree equally and on free will to see other people, under their own previously agreed terms.
What you have is different. You, Lindsay, had to accept that he would sleep with other women regardless of what you think.
Because, let's be honest: Why would he choose you among all the women he has been seeing for the past years?
I can say almost certainly they all were way more beautiful, talented, and had their lives more together than you.
The only reason he is with you is because you know how to play your cards, and you have just the right amount of blackmail and know him well enough to step in when your "relationship" looks in danger. And you're desperate enough to keep doing it year after year, because you know you don't exist without him.
You're nothing. You're ageing (not very gracefully, I must say), don't have a career of your own, or any talents. You can't even get a child from him.
You're useless, and just because you've decided to try to change your reputation for your own good and his, doesn't change the fact that you both have a lot of dirt flying around, and soon enough, everything will come out to the light. And it won't be nice!
Have a good day!
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1020931
>>1020897It was Lindsay not Madelyn. She did the same with Teale Coco, deliberately misspelled her name. (See old threads)
I am sad Gabriella follows his life. I really liked her, she seemed to be smarter than his other girls.
No. 1020961
>>1020932Not true. Lindsay isn't infertile and Manson never had a vasectomy.
But, let's be honest, what are the chances of someone like Manson to get anyone pregnant?
He's 51 and has been abusing drugs/alcohol since even before he became famous. Let's be honest here.
No. 1021374
Found this on reddit. Someone firsthand claims Taylor Momsen was choked by Manson.
Link in case embed doesn’t work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2LGKZkoaho&feature=emb_logo No. 1021417
>>1021374>Rocker Taylor Momsen likes to be choked thanks to goth godfather Marilyn Manson. The Beautiful People singer clamped his hands around the former Gossip Girl star’s neck when they performed together at the Revolver Golden Gods Awards show in 2012 and now she confesses she enjoys the sensation of being strangled.Momsen tells Revolver, “It was f
king awesome. He fking choked me out onstage… really f**king hard.
>“The people there were like, ‘You need a doctor. Are you fine?’ ‘Dude, I just got choked by Marilyn Manson – I’m f**king fine!’“And now I really like getting choked out. You learn things.”
Apparently he's her godfather, too?
No. 1021426
>>1021417Can you link your source?
I don’t believe he’s her godfather, that sounds like what the media referred to him as in the interview.
It seems the story Taylor told her personal assistant (in the video) is different then what she told the press.
No. 1021430
>>1021412Manson grabs her boob around 2:05 in the video, not sure if it the same groping you’re referring to.
The girl who made the video is who posited it to the Manson reddit. You can find the thread here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/marilyn_manson/comments/i7u3bc/hey_marilyn_manson_quit_being_such_a_drunk_and/ No. 1021437
>>1021426It's here:
https://googleweblight.com/i?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hollywood.com%2Fgeneral%2Ftaylor-momsen-i-like-to-be-choked-59852875%2F&geid=NSTN&hl=en-USI don't know if it's reliable or not, though. I'd never heard of it before. I had a bit of trouble with copying and pasting, so lmk if the link doesn't work.
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No. 1021557
>>1021504Probably not over him as much as just humiliated. She spent years on Instagram under catsanddevils, and talking in DMs to mansonisabusive saying “he’ll never marry her!!!!!” Also her constant “just wait and see” and “whats down in the dark always comes to light” shit all for it to end with…M marrying Lindsay. I’m sure she’s still obsessing over it but what can she possibly say publicly that won’t make her look insane at this point? Especially since she’s found this thread?
Hopefully with all her time off back in NC with her parents she’ll enroll in college and maybe expand her worldview a little.
No. 1021616
>>1021040I laughed so hard at “goodie two-shoe homemaker.”
Can you imagine Manson goes from choking Taylor Monsen and all the other fucked up shit he’s done over the years… to being a homemaker? Lmao. Does he really think ppl are that stupid to buy him & Lindsays act?
No. 1021630
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>>1021616>>1021040You’re right - fans aren’t buying it either. Is MM on reddit too?lol That looks and sounds like him responding to that guy, trying to defend him and Lindsay’s relationship. B/c like that crimson dude said, why would someone be getting so defensive?
He’s also right - if he did make an album about Lindsay - it sucked. Which is why he went using other women.
No. 1021671
>>1021417He isn't her godfather lmao
And Taylor was very obviously starstruck. She'd never get into a situation like that now.
No. 1021762
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No. 1021787
>>1012472>>1021774It is Lindsay, Ashley's nose is different. And Lindsay did have long hair. Lurk moar anon, hope there's no offense.
Where is this photo from?
No. 1021843
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>>1021762could OP please explain what the hell is in the pic?
What is this black space? Is it a back of a sofa? Is it black leather then? There is a reflection of a woman wearing a white dress, her legs (thighs) are seen. Is it Lindsay's reflection? Then it's a selfie.
What are these black small spaces near her boob?
Now we know she had her boobs done. Even her boobs, the only thing she showed off as her best accomplishment is fake. Okay. Thx.
OP please what's the year of the pathetic nudes?
No. 1021846
>>1021762Lmaooooo did she really just come on here and drop a photo of her titties. A mood honestly… Sounds like something my friends and I would do.
I just searched this photo and it's no where else on the internet. Meaning it's either cropped or a private photo she posted.
Bitch basically said, "if you wanna converse about something, talk about this titties" dropped a photo and dipped.
I'm dead
No. 1021853
>>1021843That looks like a faux leather portfolio bag tbh.
She's networking lol…love that for her
(I don't see any leg reflection. The bag is semi matte. I don't think she had a boob job or photoshopped…there's veins and shit. I know people on here don't like to give her credit but she has nice tits.)
No. 1021863
>>1021843It looks like she's on some casting couch in a hotel room or something. Granted most of his girlfriends were are porn stars, strippers, vintage strippers or cam girls a d he doesnt seem bothered by that in the slightest, I wouldnt surprised if she was lowkey a cam girl and made videos somewhere online under some alias.
It's definitely a career that would allow her to make her own money. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in on it too/took the photos himself or anonymously made videos with her somewhere.
- He's posted videos of him having sex on Instagram.
- He did that heart shaped glasses video.
- He made all those weird bdsm sex short films with Evan.
- He has been masturbating on stage for almost 20 years now…
- Some of his music videos could be considered straight up porn.
He definitely meets the characteristics
(constant spam and samefagging) No. 1021871
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>>1021853>I don't see any leg reflectionI did my best to show my
point of view lol
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I honestly don't know. Maybe she just gained weight? Bc in those "recent" analogue pics she already has bigger boobs.
Also, she has a fucking pin-up tattooed on her back that looks prettier than her.. how brainwashed is she(lack of spoiler)
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I know I'm just nitpicking here, but did anyone else notice that little indention near the bottom? I thought maybe it was from photoshop or something.
No. 1022167
>>1022023PR? What would he need her for that for? He’s never used her in the past. It’s the worst PR. Anyone
that’s a real person and not one of their fake fan accounts or part of their management team trying to pimp their false whole ‘goodie two-shoe homemaker’ image, can see right through their act.
I doubt some random person would get so defensive and take a comment about their relationship so personal.
No. 1022194
>>1021927No, I meant those recent dark analogue pictures. She confirmed her engagement with them.
I also apologize for the lack of spoiler. Totally forgot.
No. 1022213
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>>1021762Lindsay got more work done since….
No. 1022683
>>1022491Trust you? No one even knows you. Sure… but there is something unusual about this particular one.
It has the underage stuff on it and the “I’d punish in my own way” comment stuck out. He also specifically covered his hand which is not something someone would have to do if they weren’t trying to hide tattoos.
No. 1022771
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Doesn't look like that pic on Twitter.
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Speaking of Dawn, she’s still at it with that Satan page. This is all the PR that Manson needs, is for her to go around telling people he’s under fake accounts, lol. I don’t think Manson would have an OnlyFans or need to sell dildo ads. But who knows, maybe he’s fell on really hard times, lol
>>1022023 No. 1022816
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>>1022775Honestly, I wouldn’t put it past him to be on Only Fans posting his “weirdness” too.
Both accounts on the same date with almost similar captions going off social media at the same time.
Him and his co-conspirators probably got all upset crying because things didn’t pan out the way they hoped.
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>>1022816Yup he’s reading…
That’s because I’m perfect.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1022936
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Dawn,
Michael is behind s8n. I
really doubt a journalist and the Observer is part of a conspiracy.
https://observer.com/2017/02/donald-trump-made-twitter-satan-great-again/I’m willing to believe Manson has some fakes but why are you
insisting he’s behind an account that’s proven their identity?
Co-conspirators? As in Manson and this dude Michael have an agreement to fuck with you and coordinate posts? Okay..
You’re a lunatic, I see why Manson supposedly pressed charges against you.
No. 1022937
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Even though I think eyelet.black is a crazy woman who needs to be institutionalized, she has some "insightful" posts.
>M doesn't have any other accounts besides his official>we don't go into each other's phones>we like to keep healthy boundaries in our relationshipsLMAO
>>1022936just report and move on.
No. 1022950
>>1022943Samefag
Why the fuck is this schizo troll allowed to run rampant? She’s been banned several times in the past but keeps coming back.
No. 1022970
>>1022964I think their confidence comes from what is known via his exes or ex-employees. Was it fearless666 who claimed Lindsay used his phone? Or Amie Harwick?
I personally believe she has access to his ig account judging by how he's been posting, idk about his phone though.
But this
>>1022966 is a good question.
No. 1022983
>>1022964>>1022966It’s a good point, but noname666 is supposedly his ex.
Anyone could claim to be them though.
As far as dating other women, Manson and Lindsay were on and off for years and didn’t hint at heir marriage until recently. She’s more prominent in his life now.
>>1022970It was 666fearless who said Lindsay and Judd control his phone and claims Judd is still stalking her. She and Amie Harwick both said Lindsay blackmails him.
No. 1023199
>>1023174> Anyone can go make false allegations. It doesn't mean shit.Exactly. Stop posting your conspiracy theories in the thread, and go obsess over Manson somewhere else.
And his "bloodshot eyes" were probably from smoking cannabis.
No. 1023210
>>1023170How does being dead have any bearing on her credibility? It’s not her fault she was a
victim of stalking, wtf. Amie Harwick was a professional psychologist, I’d say she’s very creditable.
What makes 666fearless crazy? She posted plenty of caps to back up her claims.
No. 1023211
>>1023206If you actually do have something against Manson, that's great. He deserves to go to jail for everything he's done. That's not what's wrong here. The problem is that you've infected all 5 threads with your spurging and you come on here every day, acting like a bitch and arguing with farmers. We heard you the first 10 times you said it
Your stories aren't even consistent, and if you didn't meet up with him to sign an NDA, then you shouldn't have a problem with sharing your evidence. That isn't going to hurt your credibility in court anymore than it does when you post your autism here. It was borderline believable at first, but you just kept going with it and now you just seem like another schizophrenic side-chick.
No. 1023247
Do not start a conversation with her, she's nuts, just report and ignore.
>>1023223If I am not mistaken both women interacted with her personally.
No. 1023261
>>1022937Now all doubts about Lindsay reading this threads have been removed. I don't think she is posting here herself but some fans told her about it the same way they tell her about IG accounts.
Sending DMs to people you personally don't know and defending your relationship is hilarious. Making online friends in the age of 35 and not having one single picture of RL friends on your account is equally wierd.
It's obvious they're trying to create image on blissful marriage but anyone above the age of 15 knows it would've never happened if abuse allegations weren't floating around.
Btw that eyelet account is still active and still no one in the media covered the story of their marriage.
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>>1016898I am probably late and borderline irrelevant but I want to put my two cents in.
First of all, I would not look into his early lyrics if I wanted to find something to discredit him. Not because there is nothing
toxic or
abusive in them (bc there actually is) but because up until Eat Me Drink Me lyrics had always been a collective effort of the band, it was confirmed in several interviews by mm and former members. In addition to that, violence, abuse, including sexual abuse, was the subject of his reflections upon the American society at the time. You can lurk nachtkabarett or mansonwiki for more explanation.
the best 'places' to find shady shit are his albums right after TGAOG (like you quoted THEoL, for example). I want to post a little bit from TPE because, even if it seems like a stretch, it might give another dimension to the Manson&Lindsay discussion because, sadly, some lyrics lines correlate with anons' assumptions to the extent where things turn 'sad and sorry'.
When the album released there were persistent rumors Manson was shading Lindsay too much. It's a known fact that the devil beneath my feet features his text message to Lindsay:
>Maybe she doesn’t understand that when he writes a song for his new album like “The Devil Beneath My Feet,” with lyrics like “Don’t bring your black heart to bed/When I wake up, you best be gone or you better be dead,” he’s not necessarily referring to her, even though they did come from a text he sent her.I never looked at it from this angle but some posts like
>>1015538 and 1015697
>Lindsay can't even get his lyrics right.>Has anyone considered that maybe she knows what her "metaphors" mean?made me want to rethink some tracks from TPE.
I don't want the post to be too long so I put my comments in the caps and highlighted the juiciest parts.
The last note from me is that the album was recorded around 2013-2014 and released in 2015, basically when first hate accounts and marriage rumors broke out.
inb4 anons reply to my post, read this twice
THIS CAN VERY WELL BE FAR-FETCHED, I AM NOT A LICENSED MIND READER.
No. 1023348
>>1022964lol, why so aggressive?
>You batshit lunatics don’t have any actual proof of this. Go back to the third thread and read fearless' and LKB's screenshots.
No. 1023711
>>1023698That was odd. I do wonder what that was about.
>>1023702Yes she said other things, but who knows what it’s actually about or if it has any relevance. At this point, it’s all very vague.
No. 1023726
>>1023660>>1023686>>1023692>>1023698>>1023702>>1023711okay ya'll I am losing my shit
jfc why do you keep talking about her? she IS NOT part of the MM milk. There is ZERO evidence mm was ever in touch with her, she is not the cow neither his orbiter. wtf is wrong with you???
every single post about her is irrelevant
No. 1024236
>>1024225I tried googling search warrants, but nothing comes up like what she showed.
I don’t know about U.S. law, but I’m pretty sure that making a false police report has criminal liability. Depending on what he accused her of and the situation, it can be a misdemeanor or felony.
No. 1025014
>>1024975Yeah cause every person that posts about MM is related to him. He must have a huge family then.
Show us one piece of credible proof or fuck off and get back on your antipsychotics.
Now let's get back to the subject of the thread. Does anyone have theories why Lindsay is running his Instagram? Could it really be to trick everyone into thinking how happy they are and that he's not thirsting after other girls?
But it doesn't add up cause according to Esme and Evan it was the other way round and HE was controlling them and isolating them.
Does this bring us back to the blackmail story and the dirt Lindsay has on him? Covid really works in their favours then. No touring or hooking up with fangirls. Lindsay must be stoked and he must be fuming and slowly losing his shit if he hasn't already.
No. 1025069
>>1025014Are you sure he ever ran his own account?
Most celebs or even people with large followings have people run their social media. I have a small biz and have someone run Instagram cause it’s time consuming and draining af.
He could have just got a new social media manager that has a different style.
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>>1014221I really don’t want to get Dawn started again but I’m pretty sure this proves he didn’t steal her shut.
(No I’m not a Manson fan) I just read this article posted from the last forum and it was published 21 September 2017!
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/sep/21/columbine-destroyed-my-entire-career-marilyn-manson-on-the-perils-of-being-the-lord-of-darkness No. 1025101
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>>1025081Dawn didn't post her shit until 2018.
No. 1025127
>>1024975>>1024901>>1024899>>1024745>>1024831>>1025013>>1025101>>1025081you guys are retards? can't fg stop posting about that autistic moron? I hope you'll get the longest bans ever.
>>1025014>the blackmail story and the dirt Lindsay has on him?The thing is there's been a lot of kinda conflicting information. There is evidence Lindsay harassed girls who had (or could potentially have) a thing with Manson, there is also evidence (in earlier threads I believe) that she "canceled" m&gs. So at some point she controlled him, but then there is a cap of LKB saying Lindsay actually groomed her for MM. It seems there have been ups and downs of control in their couple. If I had a pile of tricky shit on somebody, I wouldn't let that somebody treat me like garbage. If she has dirt on him is questionable to me, unless she's part of the dirt he's done (like in Louise's case).
>Does anyone have theories why Lindsay is running his Instagram?He is a lazy fuck and he probably wanted to get her occupied with something. Why not?
To people asking how he could keep searching for girls and let Lindsay get into his phone - in the end, some people have more than just one cell phone.
>>1025069It's kinda common knowledge obvious from his past but no proofs so far.
No. 1025633
>>1012472>>1025612What is the first pic?
>>1025624Shane is his photographer.
No. 1025638
>>1025624I mean he probably looks for girls and texts them for Manson. Louise even confirmed he has his employees do this.
Or he made some kind of business setup for Manson to use, e.g., a second phone so Lindsay can’t find (that’s if she is really going thru his phone).
(Dawn) No. 1025641
>>1025639Lol anon. LKB topic is something personal for you. What he's done to her is factual and it doesn't depend on how she felt about it or her motives. She
is a reliable source because no matter how many times she changed her narrative a few details never changed. Add legal threats from his team and do the math.
No. 1025835
>>1025801Agree. Abuse probably started later on as his drug addiction got worse.
Evan and Esme also had careers but that didn't help them.
Article mentioned Rose moving on but nothing about his current relationship status/marriage.
No. 1025853
>>1012472>>1025852And they featured a post which has her tagged, lol. They tried so hard and zero attention.
This is how much relevant he is.
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Rose McGowan is a fraudster.
No. 1026175
>>1026059Wasn't that posted in one of the last threads? It sort of seems like she was only out for herself. Like, "Yes, I was a
victim of sexual assault, and I want my abuser to be punished, but fuck all the other men and women that have been abused because it's not my problem."
No. 1026196
>>1026059>>1026175>>1025778Rose was already discussed in previous threads but I don’t think Manson lost his shit until Dita left him. If you read his autobiography and how he treated his mother, he’s been an asshole to women his whole life but I don’t believe the blatant abuse started until his relationships after his divorce, imo.
So what if he didn’t abuse Rose or if she’s lying for him, that doesn’t eliminate multiple abuse allegations. If anything, I lost respect for her.
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>>1026487Caps. It's strange that Teale Coco commented, too.
No. 1026587
>>1026489Well this disproves that theory Lindsay runs his Instagram. She probably would block Caca Shitnel.
>>1026579He can’t run from the sins of his past… they’re just catching up with him.
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>>1026587I don’t think so
No. 1026654
>>1012472>>1026593I think Lindsay wants to act classy and forgiving, or as if nothing ever happened lol.
Now her like on Gabriella's post makes a bit more sense.
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>>1026610He even prides himself in it.
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No. 1027027
I would completely disregard most of the nonsense he talks about in his interviews. I believe all the people who are saying things, though. There's no smoke without fire. But saying that sort of gross shit for shock factor used to be extremely popular with edgy bands when he started the band. I don't believe the kitty litter story or the deaf girl sandwich. He's just stuck in the 80's.
Sorry if that's off topic or a bit of a blog, but I've read Lundy Bancroft's "Why does he do that?" recently and watched a lot of videos on narcissistic abuse by Sam Vaknin and these remind me of Manson A LOT. He's clearly a narcissist.
According to Bancroft, it's a misconception that abusers hurt people because they were abused themselves, or because of their addictions and mental illness. They mostly abuse because of entitlement & lack of respect for women. They also know exactly what they're doing and don't lose control completely. If their dad abused their mum, that's a big predictor that they will grow up to be abusive, as well. He's aware of his actions and what they are.
In Manson's bio he wrote about how his dad abused his mum, and he began to abuse her too later on, because he thought she was cheating on his dad.
I think he's also super traumatised from something. Apparently, narcissism is related to PTSD. If the book is true, then he got psychologically abused by his mum and sexually abused by his neighbour. They could be lies, though. Something was definitely super fucked up with his parents. I've never heard a 50 year old man still talking about mum and dad so much. He sounds like he's still trying to impress his dad by being awful to women, too. He's a 51-year-old 13-year-old boy who's addicted to porn and still mad at his mother.
I wish he would just go and get help already, or just fucking die. Living like he is now must be pure agony. I bet he hates looking in the mirror. Just wakes up, looks at himself and starts drinking. Everything he did to himself is a million times worse than what he did to any woman. They're all healthy, they look normal, they can string two sentences together, most of them have relationships with better people now, or at least some real friends. He has none of those things. He has damaged his brain very badly. I honestly feel very bad for him, even though he's a monster. It looks like he just gets dragged around by his entourage like a sack of potatoes, unaware of where he is anymore. Damn. If Manson were a woman, he would be under conservatorship right now. Hollywood is a very scary place.
And his fans and entourage are fucking insane. I can't imagine struggling with mental health and addiction, and everyone tells you you're a very stable genius and hilarious, all the time, over your every fart. And no matter how much you lash out and act out, everyone around you just takes it and never sets a boundary for you, because you're rich and famous, so you can just keep spiralling down and hurting people and yourself. Why are all these teens swarming to fuck this 50 year old man who looks like he's going to die soon? I honestly think if someone posted a picture of his corpse and didn't caption it, these girls would still rave about how hot he is.
If you look at his hashtags and message boards, they're literally swarming with 13-19 year old girls who are extremely attracted to this obese, babbling, insane, fucked up mess, and want to kill all his girlfriends. WHY. JFC, I think his fans are going to kill him before FBI gets his ass. This is honestly so creepy it could be a fucking movie.
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>>1027034I LOVE YOU ANON YOU ARE THE BEST MARRY ME NOW
>>1026487Is it why he edited his post? Would me keksome.
He got called out by twitter fags… one month ago.
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Can somebody unveil for me the mysterious idea of reposting her old post with 'her love' at 6 am?
The new album is coming in less than a month, anything about it? Nope?
No. 1027081
>>1027073Sorry I want to add more! I wasn’t quite finished.
Basically he’s a bloated penguin that snorts coke all day and drinks Tito‘s vodka around the clock. The only people in his life he associates with are yes-men and fans. He won’t have anyone in his life who will make him question his wrongdoings or else he will fire them or he will cut them out then proceed to badmouth them to everyone. He goes through assistants and girlfriends like he goes through underwear. He doesn’t have stability in his relationships or his personal life. I think his goal honestly is to hurt people so badly that they are traumatized.
No. 1027083
>>1027049Lindsay’s only achievement is scoring a washed up rockstar and doesn’t want his ex and current side chicks to forget.
>>1027027>I don't believe the kitty litter story or the deaf girl sandwich. I generally agree with you but those stories are from other people besides Manson. Chris Vrenna and the deaf woman herself confirmed it in interviews and a venue employee (cap posted in the 3rd thread?) confirmed the kitty litter story.
But I agree Manson usually talks out of his ass in interviews.
>>1026972Agree, I think Manson mostly controls his own social media. He’s thrown shade at Lindsay recently (“The price of darkness” showing his wedding ring, etc) that I doubt Lindsay would post herself. However, I do think Lindsay occasionally takes over or makes him promote her. I mean, she has to buy bots for followers, she would be unknown if not for Manson.
No. 1027154
>>1027135I feel that as a
victim I have the right to remain anonymous. I want nothing to do with his fan base. Looking back at that time in my life it was a very demoralizing experience. Now that I’m older and wiser I’m ashamed. What does calling him out mean exactly? Make a YouTube video? It’s not that easy. I want the truth to come out but I don’t want the attention. Its sad because abusers want you to stay silent. If a
victim stays silent then they are cowards. If we speak out then we are crazy and want attention. There’s no winning.
I’m not scared of him. I am embarrassed that I even associated myself with him. In a perfect world he would get exposed for the vile things he’s done and people would completely forget about him and stop supporting him. He has slept with underage fans. He is a sex addict. He is an alcoholic. He is racist. His entire living room is covered in swastikas, racist memorabilia, and Sharon Tates murder photos. He loves threatening that he knows people in the MS 13 gang and he could have someone killed. It’s unfortunate but if he wasn’t famous these would all be extremely big red flags. I think I allowed it because this is a person who makes his entire career off of shocking people and it’s just a part of his identity. He is truly an evil human being who needs to die honestly. Lindsay is also equally as evil and disgusting. They complement each other very well.
>>1027027I’d talk to you in a discord chat or something tbh
No. 1027157
>>1027154Anyone could claim to be a
victim anonymously, and we’ve had numerous mansonfags come itt and lie about ridiculous things so you wouldn’t be the first. Every single thing you’ve mentioned has been said before—all it would take is some obsessed fan collecting facts from ig, twitter, and various sites to regurgitate into one post. If you aren’t going to share proof then you need to stop making such claims. Also the whole evasive “I won’t talk here but I’ll gladly talk to you on this discord server” steering people away from the board is a deadringer for a catfish wanting to rp their delusions without consequence.
No. 1027207
>>1027197I agree with you. They think too highly of themselves to write that.
It’s totally
valid if someone shares their experience while remaining anonymous. We just need to ask the right questions. Who wants the Dawns and Madelyns sperging out on them? You guys need to turn the paranoia down a notch.
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I didn't know when is the right moment to post that but I feel now will be okay since there is not much new milk, and, in addition to that, LKB has been mentioned again and what I am posting echos her comments in Jessicka's FB group.
There is an article of a respected Russian newspaper, Saint-Petersburg local version, they reported on Manson's performance in the city and the afterparty. There are some juicy moments, I put them in the picture related. They say in the article that Manson harassed every single person in the bar, many people decided to leave bc of him.
If Lindsay collected their emails and cell numbers, it could be part of the grooming process she does for Manson. I wonder if 'I am bisexual' is a coverup.
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I also found comments of one of the girls from that evening.
She says the article didn't lie much - she believes they exaggerated his behavior (she says he acted normal).
Under another post (3 years later) she says Lindsay does cocaine often. I wonder if they collected her number too.
No. 1027227
>>1027154Can I ask you a few questions?
How did you meet? When did you decide to leave him and what made you leave? Did you know anything about his other girls?
Are his text messages to you similar to the ones posted in first threads?
Did he ever try to make you sign an NDA?
No. 1027237
>>1027231nta was not it in the last or the 4th thread?
her twitter is closed. wanna bring some caps?
No. 1027242
>>1027223The article, translated:
> The musician, artist and former music journalist flew to the Northern Capital on Sunday evening from Moscow to give a concert on May 28 at the Yubileiny. At the airport, numerous fans were waiting for him, who came from different cities to see the idol. Tired of the road, Manson and his friends went to dinner at one of the most expensive restaurants in the city center. Everyone felt unwell because of the change in time zones, so the day before in Moscow they did not even have their traditional rocker parties. Unfortunately or fortunately, but St. Petersburg residents were more fortunate, and the day after the concert, Marilyn Manson rested in the bar until 4 am, inviting about 20 girls there for the company.
> Note that the musician himself was with his common-law wife Lindsay and behaved pretty decently. In general, little is known about the rocker's personal life, but he shared with us his immediate plans.
> "I'm thinking about having a baby, and I want to name him in my honor. We have been together with Lindsay for three years, but we are not yet completely sure that we are ready for the role of parents," Manson admitted.
> Brian himself (Manson's real name) behaved modestly, but greeted everyone present in person, talked a lot and joked. It turns out that Brian is very fond of practical jokes, he has a whole collection of funny collages with friends, as well as indecent photos on his phone.
> Right at the bar, he played his friend and bassist Fred. Manson sat down with one of the girls and persuaded her to tell Fred that she was in a position. This was the beginning of a whole mini-performance, where Manson whispered in her ear what and how to say, and she acted out the situation according to a given scenario. Then Fred said that for Manson it was a common thing and that he still didn’t mock him like that. Already in the middle of the night a razor was brought to Manson for some reason. As it turned out later, he decided to shave off the mustache of one of the guests! Sitting next to the man at the table, Manson took out the machine … The man immediately ran away! But Marilyn did not want to give up and began to ask the girls present at the table if it was possible to shave at least them. The girls, as expected, also refused. By the way, Manson himself had clean-shaven hands – probably shaving for him is a fetish.
> The lifestyle of Marilyn and his common-law wife is pretty crazy. Lindsay does not adhere to traditional sexual orientation, and during the party after the concert, she exchanged e-mail with almost all the fair sex in the bar. And she sat in an embrace with one of the girls, who, however, periodically adhered to her husband. It seems that then the girl proceeded to the spouses' hotel room… No. 1027414
>>1027197>Why would Manson or Lindsay write that about themselves?I wouldn’t put it past Manson to fake sketch
victim stories so his real
victims are less believable. I mean, if that’s them, they’re already dropping random shit and tiddy pics to derail what’s stopping them.
No. 1027512
>>1027154I'm
>>1027027. Sorry, I don't use discord. What did you want to talk about? What's happening am I in danger lol.
If that's true, I'm sorry you've been put through that. Narcs can be very charming in the beginning, they love bomb you, they make you believe everything they say, and he's a celebrity too. You were not on an even playing field, and probably very young. Don't be ashamed. Good on you on getting out of it.
…do you know what on Earth "baby Manson time" is supposed to include?
I feel kinda bad for Linsday too. She's messed up, but she's just a normal girl and he's powerful, older, and a masterful liar. I'm sure his constant cheating and drug use sent her off the deep end.
In the end what she wants is to be with her partner and not get cheated on and humiliated, that's not that crazy. He's the one who made her crazy. Honestly kind of respect her for getting married after 10 years of being a forever girlfriend. Although a sane woman would drop that shit and get a normal man instead of fighting for a very dubious prise until the end.
I don't think he has actual conscious goals to traumatise people. I think he just can't stop when he gets angry, and doesn't want to control his emotions, or at least how he reacts to them. I don't know him and I've never even seen a live show, but I grew up with a narcissistic,
abusive, cocaine addict dad and I've been involved with different abusers. He feels so familiar.
Cocaine was really the worst possible drug for him. It emphasised and exacerbated every problem he already had x1000 times. Coke makes you self-absorbed and aggressive. Vodka's terrible too.
I get that his handlers are milking him for cash, but at what point does a self-destroying celebrity become a financial burden instead? He's always months late on putting out his records and wasted for every live show, and I'm sure all the lawsuits are not good.
If you listen to him talk it's always "I am what I am, what you gonna do", like he's given up decades ago. Narcissists are actually very unhappy deep down. I'm sure living with all that rage and hurt must be awful. But he's a very big boy and he's responsible for controlling himself. Why would you even step on the same garden rake over and over when all it does is hit you in the balls?
No. 1027569
>>1027512I don't understand how "a normal girl" goes along with sexual assaults and blackmailing stuff. She is as evil as he is. A normal person would never cover up his crimes, I am not even talking about being his accomplice.
Someone dug up her past before MM: stalkers, jealous of her own twin sister, did not want to work and hoped her dad would give her money. Zero career at 25 yo, how? The dirty army article had it she had been a cocaine addict before meeting Manson.
I dislike Manson, he is a monster, Lindsay is his
victim but she was never a good person. She is basically his female version but without any talent or brain. I don't understand how some anons here have sympathy for her. She is a disgusting parody of a human being. She had plenty of opportunities to go away from him as it appears after reading his interviews and first threads, and where is she? What is she doing now? I'll tell you - she's buying cheap bots to calm down her ego.
No. 1027573
>>1027569I didn't mean normal mentally, I meant she's not Hollywood famous.
Obv don't know anything about her before she met Manson. Are there receipts? Zero career at 25 in 2009 after the recession hit is not that weird, but stalkers? Really? What happened?
Do we know for a fact she's an accomplice and not just competing with these girls for attention and enduring abuse herself?
A few years back there was a story about a man who abducted a bunch of people and locked them up in his basement, and in a few weeks they all began to compete for his affection and fighting with each other instead of running away or trying to overpower him. Who knows how much he messed with her. For all we know she got the full baby Manson time kitty litter treatment, went insane and thinks it's no big deal to cope.
If he can completely mess up actual famous stars, a nobody like Lindsay has no chance. Although I agree she is definitely very shady.
No. 1027577
>>1027569Easy: she's as big of a narc as he is but without any accomplishments, skills or redeeming features. Even her "photography" is day 01 shit, without being Mrs. Marilyn Manson she's a Literal Who. Thus, she becomes better than the groupies and can justify anything she's enabling and participating in.
tl,dr: she's trash & knows he's her only shot at ever being anything else
No. 1027581
>>1027544I don't buy the "he does it bc he hates himself & is a tortured soul" spiel, I believe he does it because of a feeling of inferiority. Him and Lindsay are the same, yet he actually had to put in work to become the Manson he was in his prime. He wasn't stupid, and he wasn't always a burnt out hasbeen. Lindsay did nothing with her life but blackmail her way onto a social media pedestal (LBR, she didn't really "win" any prize, she & Syd are in the same boat essentially) and succeeded, at least in her own mind. Perhaps Manson thinks that's somehow clever of her? Narcs love the idea of meeting people "just like them", except usually when they do they can't face the reality of who they are va. who they think they are.
I bet Lindsay feeds into his dark prince fantasy where he's the Manson of days gone by in exchange for her position in his life, along with being complacent with his groupie fetish. Lindsay seems like a beard, but M doesn't give off big gay vibes like some other celebs do so idk, but whatever it is we know it isn't just because he likes having L around.
No. 1027586
>>1027573nta but we know nothing for a fact, even 'Manson is a rapist' is just a claim kek.
anons explored her livejournal in the second or the third thread, you can read them if you want. as far as I remember she had personal stalkers at the time of her livejournal and complained about her sister to her readers. I don't remember anything about dad or money.
and tbh even though I like your posts, they give off a bit of wk vibes, definitely due to the lack of lurking.
I personally do not care why she helped him groom LKB, for example, or why she joined him when he sexually assaulted drunk fan girls. Her motives mean nothing to me, the 'factual' information (if we believe LKB) is that she did participate in criminal activity that he initiated.
No. 1027595
>>1027586I saw that livejournal but couldn't read it. Her writing is just so… boring. I'll take your word for it lol. I used to lurk @marilynmansonnews and binge-read all five threads in 2 days, guess I missed a bunch of details.
I just keep thinking how 20 years+ of drama and sexual assault could have been avoided if that idiot went to therapy before he scrambled his brains. Even better if his dad went first. And now a couple dozen people need therapy because of him, possibly in the hundreds. He's like a black hole. But with the way he talks, sometimes there's this confused little kid underneath, and I can't hate him completely too. That man is fucked. Up. It's just baffling that everyone is OK with working with someone so ill. Britney was a lot more sane and they keep her on a leash now. Fucking sick.
No. 1027654
>>1027227Sure no problem.
We met at one of his shows backstage and everyone was a bit drunk and we started talking. He approached me and told me he wanted to bite me. Looking back on it now it was very predatory. We then talked alone in his dressing room for a while and then he played the show and then we hung out afterwards. We hung out again the following night.
I decided to leave after I noticed the compulsive lying and the deterioration of my mental/physical health. He would talk shit about Lindsay/other women then go back to them and then try to come back to me and then apologize. Lindsay made numerous fake accounts and would message me. She was constantly threatening me and would call him when we would be together saying she was going to come over and kill me. I was drained. One thing I can confirm is that he did fuck with my sleep schedule as well. I watched Evan Rachel Wood’s testimony and that was one of things that I related to. There were several times when I would be asleep and he would come in turn the lights on and throw shit around. It would be early in the morning usually on a bender.
I found out about the other girls through Instagram and because he had a second phone. He would go out and I would be alone and see girls text that phone. I noticed some of the girls he dated would creep on me but never interact with me. We had broken up and the last time he sent me a very long message and it didn’t really sound like him but he apologized for everything that he put me through and I never responded because I was so dissociated from the experience. I really wanted nothing to do with him anymore and should have bailed sooner. Sometimes we stay in situations because we think that’s what we deserve.
Yes the texting style is similar to all of those messages. His texts were always very nonsensical and almost like novels. In the beginning when we first met he would send me a lot of love bombing text messages basically saying we were soulmates, meant to be, etc. He would say that he told his dad about me. I only met his dad twice though. I think that was the way that he sort of drew girls in was by the intense compliments and flattering. I felt almost like I was under a spell and I think the other girls share the same sentiment. I think he’s an expert at making someone feel like they are the only person in the world he has feelings for.
I never signed an NDA. I’m honestly surprised that I didn’t.
No. 1027658
>>1027654Can you say what year you dated him?
Can you post caps of his texts to back up your claims?
Do you know what “baby Manson time” means?
Another supposed ex said he’s bipolar, can you confirm?
No. 1027682
>>1027658I doulbe that
>Can you post caps of his texts to back up your claims?I am not asking for a full conversation but a few messages? Just to compare.
No. 1027734
>>1027512No you are in danger at all! I felt like the way that you explained him was the most levelheaded and accurate I’ve seen on here. It almost sounded like you knew him personally that’s all lol
Yeah I enjoyed the attention from him and felt special. Generally people who are attracted to narcissists have narcissistic parents and both mine are. It’s mostly my dad because he was an addict and very
abusive as well. He was always in and out of my life and one of the reasons why I left home so early. I’m sorry you’ve had to go through that also. I follow a Reddit group called raisedbynarcissists and it’s helped me a lot. He and I had quite an age gap and there was definitely a power-play. Thats a common theme though in a majority of his relationships. I think he chooses women that struggle with mental health problems because when you’re at a low point in life and you don’t have a support system it’s easy to latch on to someone who makes you feel loved. Even though it’s not real.
Yeah lol it’s basically code for role playing. He obviously fetishizes younger women. From my experience it means he is daddy and you are his daughter. Just take a minute or however long you need to process that.
Its hard for me to have sympathy for Lindsay because I understand the fear of leaving a
toxic relationship but there comes a point when it’s doing more damage and you have to decide if it worth it. She has no self respect. I think that she was messed up before she met him and he only exacerbated it. She uses the whole bisexual card to lure other women in and then they both fuck around. I don’t know why this isn’t more widely known. Her entire identity is being his significant other. She doesn’t have a job, she doesn’t have a car, and I wouldnt be surprised if she didn’t even have a credit card. She’s codependent on him and he feeds off of that. He knows that she will never leave and he will be able to do whatever he wants.
Yeah seeing him sober and seeing him coked out was different. He was just very reactive and would get caught up on something and not let it go and then explode. He was very paranoid in general. I remember a specific incident of him breaking some kind of glass object on one of his benders and his assistant told me that I should leave so then I just went home. He literally needs a babysitter. He would apologize often but it was a never ending cycle. He’s entitled and obviously very insecure. I think for me a dealbreaker in any relationship is seeing how the person that you’re with treats other people. I just find it extremely disrespectful and disgusting when someone is screaming at assistants 24/7. He has no humility. He’s a lost cause.
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>>10276582015/2016
I explained baby Manson time above lol
He never mentioned bipolar. He just said he was a narcissist.
No. 1027744
>>1027737I don't understand where he takes so much time to fool around that many women. You are like the sixth or the fifth from 2015/16… sorry, I don't mean it to be rude.
What do you think about the blackmail version? We have like 3 people close to him claiming Lindsay blackmails him.
And a follow-up question: ever heard of an attorney/lawyer named Michele aka fearless666? She said she had helped him get rid of the stalkers in 2015/16 approx.
No. 1027852
>>1027700He never mentioned Madelyn. He talked shit about Courtlyn and Lindsay. When I confronted him about other girls he said they were all stalking him.
>>1027727He said that she was jealous of me. He seemed kind of nonchalant about it. He would tell me stories of her coming over unannounced and destroying things. It was a mess.
>>1027742Not underage just young. He’s 24 years older than me.
>>1027744He apparently has all the free time in the world to be sleeping with half of Los Angeles.
Yes she blackmails him. She records their conversations and fights. He also never mentioned that fearless person.
No. 1027883
>>1027852That's now four exes who've said Lindsay blackmails him. Plus his post, "The price of darkness" implying he married Lindsay to keep her quiet. I'm convinced.
>>1027872I don't feel bad for him. He's damaged and damages other people because he refuses to help himself.
No. 1027957
>>1027954I am lost at this point. Everything that comes from his mouth must not be believable but then how do you interpret her mother's tweets about photos and reports?
>>1027946The messages anon showed us are very similar to the messages mansonisabusive posted, the writing style and cringey 'sweet' talk.
No. 1027961
>>1027737Its really weird that someone who comes off so articulate and cultured in interviews about his music writes texts to girls like a cringy 20 year old; I would have expected some kind of convoluted purple prose lolita ripoff at least. He has some weird Dahvie Vanity arrested development shit going on.
Also Im the anon who originally brought the kitty litter girl story up back in the day before he had a thread. I can't provide receipts or anything but it was told to me by a alt photographer who said he was told that by a ex girlfriend of his who was hired as MUA on one of their tours. I remember asking him if he wasn't sure she was making it up for shock value because it sounded so ridiculous; after 3 threads of material being dumped here I no longer doubt it as much tbh.
I also brought the item of his modelmayhem account, I didn't want to mentioned the details of it back then but now I idgaf. The person who told me that one was none other then disgraced soundclout rapidt Hot Sugar, cause apparently they at one point were friends. So ridiculous lmao
No. 1027994
>>1027734Good on you for getting out of this situation and moving on. You're not alone. You got messed with by someone who had decades to get good at messing with people.
I hope you find the kind of love that you deserve. You sound like a smart woman.
Raised by narcissists is a great sub btw. Watch Sam Vaknin on youtube, he has narcissism himself and he's the number one expert on the disorder. It really explains everything.
Narcissism is ridiculously resistant to therapy. They don't bother to control their rage because it gets them what they want, even if they feel like shit after. Even if they go to a psychiatrist, they just learn vocab to become better abusers and have a ready excuse for themselves.
I almost feel like I know him too. He reminds me of my cokehead dad so much that they could be twins. It's why I creep on MM lol. I'm just trying to understand the whole thing. Especially in all the videos where he loses his shit and starts screaming and kicking walls. I legit grew up around almost that exact same guy who even had the same intonation while screaming. The cocaine faces are also familiar. He was photographed a lot with all those grimaces and his fans think he's pulling faces to be funny. Yeah no, that's coke. Sober Manson is probably 99% nicer than cocaine Manson, it makes people so fucking mean.
That getting obsessed over one slight and working himself up until he explodes! And then they just fume and don't calm down for hours and even days, and keep bringing it up over and over! It's typical.
I've seen videos where at one of Manson's shows the snow machine wasn't working or something like that, and he just exploded and ran down the corridor kicking walls, working himself up into a bigger fit with every step. Can't imagine working with that guy. You'd have to wear a helmet and a padded vest.
WHY do people keep working with him? I get back in the 90's when he was a genius, but now when he's washed up? All it takes is for people to refuse a sloshed man to get interviewed. Refuse to work for a screaming psycho, just fucking stand up and walk out and stop enabling that. Put your safety and dignity before money. If people didn't let him get away with it every time, he'd stop.
No. 1028000
>>1027872>>1027872I'm torn between disgust and pity. He pees on people because he's sad. That's a bullshit excuse. Boo hoo all these young women pay me money so that I can be a celebrity, and they think I'm attractive, well Imma go pee on them, that will show them! WTF.
There's just so much that went wrong. Veteran dad with PTSD who used to beat his mum, mum making him pretend to be sick, and to get plastic surgery on his ears, getting molested, getting abused at school. Feeling humiliated and weak, building this fantasy of becoming a celebrity to get some dignity back. The band was small and clearly funded by mum and dad for almost a decade, that must have stung his dignity too.
And then he grows up into this twat, and his fantasy comes true, so he acts nasty to girls for male approval, and starts using more and more drugs, but he still doesn't feel good in his own skin. In all his interviews he talks about how he's scared of parties, doesn't know if he's having fun or not, but he keeps going and getting more and more high. Am I cool yet? Do I belong in Hollywood?
And then all the backlash, and people blame him for Columbine and it probably creates this grandiose feeling of the entire world being against him and really being special. And it was unfair, and it was horrible, and he probably has PTSD from all the murder attempts and death threats.
And then groupies aren't enough, and normal women are too stable, and it's suffocating to be in something stable when you're fucked up, so he starts abusing women to get very strong emotional reactions out of them, to feel something. Keeps seeking out dramatic high school true love. Women who claim they would die for him. Evan Rachel Wood.
And eventually the drug use catches up to him. Years of enabling his own rages catch up to him.
Abusive relationships with suicidal girls catch up to him. People inevitably learn who he really is and LEAVE, and a brilliant hurt little boy turns into a disgusting bloated mess who still clings to his glory days and doesn't realise that it's over.
Even Rob Zombie left him. He collected all of MM band members and picked up Manson out of pity, but he was so consistently fucked up that Rob Zombie dropped him. He keeps sucking up to whoever would have him, rappers, Taylor Swift, anyone who would make him feel famous again. But once the initial charms wears off, people notice how off he sounds when he talks, and eventually they start treating him like a child. Even interviewers. All the fake wows, look what Brian made, look how shocking, how funny, how deep. You look good. You are sexy. Nobody can see your 5 chins. Even his body language is confused and childish.
But he's surrounded by so many fans and yes men that he never has to face reality, and that means that he loses any chance of things ever getting better. And now we all get to see a 50 year old little boy crawling on all fours crying about how nobody loves him, while he keeps smashing more and more cluster b personality disorder girls and ruining their lives.
He's the one who kicked the band and kept all the money, he's the one who got rid of the girlfriend who supported his rise to fame the second he got famous, he's the one who alienated his friends, he's the one who never took 10 seconds for some quiet introspection. Every person who made him famous he treated like shit. He made his own bed. And he's unhappy. Maybe that's good.
No. 1028012
>>1027994>The band was small and clearly funded by mum and dad for almost a decade, that must have stung his dignity too. ???
You are clearly not familiar with the band history.
And please no more armchair psychology. We all here give him diagnoses from time to time, but you are being persistent.
No. 1028127
>>1027975>>1028008I can understand why they’d want to remain anonymous, would you want batshit Manson fans after you? Of course it’s best to be skeptical but just outright dismissing it as fake doesn’t mean you’re right.
>>1028035Wtf, get help.
>>1028094Who knows what he does in private but I doubt he’d get away with human trafficking for long. None of his exes mentioned that.
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I know Dawn's lost her credibility, and most of her claims are based on conspiracies, but it really doesn't seem that far out there for him to be into kids. It's obvious that he romanticizes unhealthy relationships – “Humbert Humbert.”
No. 1028411
>>1028394the biggest reach itt so far lmao
isn't it about his new single?
No. 1028532
>>1028451He’s probably loving this. Imagine going from being this incredibly famous shock rocker who disrupted the cultural status quo, to being a bloated irrelevant hack whose name doesn’t come up unless it’s to discuss whether or not you raped Evan Rachel Wood.
Everyone’s really over-complicating this. He’s not a sex trafficking child pornographer or whatever the fuck. He’s an old narcissist who uses women to play out all the shit he needs to be in therapy for. I’m sure he’s
abusive and simultaneously thinks he’s some gift to women. And until someone actually names him as a rapist he’ll just languish in semi-irrelevance, except for the times he pops up at astroworld so everyone can point and laugh like he’s a court jester.
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Oh no girl what’d she do now
No. 1028734
>>1028685I think it's about time we stop discussing her bullshit here. She's just like Dawn.
Actually worse than Dawn cause she's not only delusional and insane but also a racist cunt. And she used to put other women down for their appearance and having work done when she literally lies about all the work she's had, lol. Big yikes.
She's craving attention again and probably loves whenever someone mentions her here.
No. 1028779
>>1028685What else could Lindsay do? She already asked a fan account to post about her, and Madelyn went private. It's pathetic that she's so consumed with social media that she has nothing better to do than talk to 15 year old girls all day. I don't know why she'd make such a big deal out of Madelyn's bullshit when there are dozens of other crazy fangirls out there literally plotting her death, unless she really did have a fling with him.
Either way, she's irrelevant to the thread.
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reposted in his story like 9 times. idk how much attention he thinks she's actually worth.
No. 1028971
>>1028944https://flaunt.com/content/lindsay-usichWorking 3 jobs to make ends meet
while living in NY…the struggle was real.
No. 1028977
>>1028973She also said she took a 3 year break from social media.
Only to return to disabled comments and bot followers. Threads are full of her old posts so it's a good thing she doesn't write much.
Anyway, they are still trying to get her a career.
No. 1028985
>>1028685That fucking c
* is talking about people lying when she lies about having fake accounts and that she herself doesn’t go around harassing people? FUCK YOU. You stupid pathetic fucking BITCH, Un-fucking-real.
(Dawn) No. 1028987
>>1028971So they deleted her interview for nastynostalgia to have this one instead?
They added the "three jobs" detail like she didn't say completely the opposite in her early interviews. Lame.
Btw
>life-partner Marilyn Manson (for whom she shot the Born Villain album cover, and various fashion, stage backdrops, merchandise, and intimate photos).First of all, kudos to them for giving info how she started her career right at the beginning of the text.
Second question: why don't they write "husband"? Wtf?
No. 1029001
>>1028983Proof or go away.
Even random walk-in anon managed to post their messages from MM. Your Madelyn is vapid.
No. 1029014
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Here’s your proof.
>>1029001 I have nothing to do with Madelyn. And yeah, she is vapid. Since he was sharing my messages, I’ll return the favor.
He sent this telling me about her. It’s a long message that why it’s cropped. So believe or don’t believe me, I just don’t give a shit anymore. But I don’t fucking lie.
I’m fucking OUT now that I realize who is actually in these threads with all their bullshit. Just remember people it’s Manson or Lindsay when you see shit like that being dropped. Don’t FEED into it. That one anon was a fake pretending to be his ex. They literally outed themselves about how they make hate accounts and talk negatively about themselves and all the other shit they do.These people are truly fucking sick.
(Dawn) No. 1029016
>>1028992>>1028997I posted the interview and I'm definitely not Lindsay. I also posted link from nostalgia and would post other interviews if I find them because it's entertaining to read about her so called career.
I'm not a native speaker as you can tell from the way I write so I'm not her.
No. 1029032
>>1029014>>1029017no 'sugar butt', no 'baby manson time' no cringey love talk, no dumb emojies, coherent writing.
not manson confirmed.
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>>1029030Why would he put any of their names? It’s kind of unnecessary when I would know exactly who he’s talking about. And she really is living across the country.
It’s cropped because it isn’t related or has nothing to do with the topic, and like I said it’s a really long message so it doesn’t crop all at once. Here is the date and time to that text.
(replying to yourself constantly) No. 1029144
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I guess if he gave her a new chin it’s only right she give him one too
No. 1029160
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>>1029118No that part he’s talking about Lindsay. Explains why that stupid Madelyn goes around calling everyone witches, because that’s what he calls them. I didn’t buy anything he said. I was rolling my eyes the whole time.
>>1029141How can that be fake? It’s from August 3. Yeah concocted a text from almost 3 weeks ago.
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>>1029144Why did he delete it?
No. 1029246
>>1029179It's not like I am defending 'Madelyn' but how do you know it's Madelyn and not Dawn?
>>1029144The pic is scary.
His label hinted at a new single coming before the album release. I am looking forward to the lyrics.
No. 1029280
>>1029169I haven’t talked to him. That was out of the blue. I replied because after everything I was curious what he had to say and why he would falsely accuse me of total bullshit. In one way or another I still have to deal with him.
But I knew after the second text though he was lying and his words were empty. Then I saw he was sharing my messages.
He made false allegations on me because he was trying to lie and put up a front to these bitches.
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>>1029298I'm, like, actually curious how many women he's picked up and had sex with before. Why do ppl wanna have sex with him? Is there just a certain appeal to a washed-up junkie that I'm not seeing??
No. 1029469
>>1029144He looks weird in this and i cant pinpoint why.
Meth
No. 1030183
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>>1030176From the same thread.
No. 1030301
>>1030176>>1030183Honestly, I'm still kind of on the fence about the whole situation between Jessicka and Twiggy. I'm not
victim blaming or down-playing what he did, but she literally tries to cancel anyone that she has a problem with. Before Manson fired him, she Tweeted about him being fatphobic and dating underage girls, then deleted it after Twiggy was gone, like it didn't matter that he was a piece of shit anymore because he did what she wanted. It just seems really sketchy to me.
No. 1030340
>>1030301My take on Jessicka is I mostly agree with what she wrote, that Manson is racist, had underage girlfriends, etc but her behavior was/is definitely weird.
I shared the screens because people claimed they hooked up with Twiggy and Manson while underage.
No. 1030447
>>1030436Seems a bit similar to those leaked messages with Gabriella. But still, stop trying to push the narrative that he's a pedophile, Dawn. There's no other "proof" that he's fucked any teenagers younger than 15-16. It might be morally and legally wrong, but that doesn't qualify him as being a pedophile.
And why do you mark out the names? You said the accounts were deleted, and it'd be impossible to find the exact one you're posting about, anyway.
No. 1030514
>>1030511Look everyone this anon is trying to justify it and thinks it makes a difference by using a different word.
No the majority of society would see him being a pedophile. Again, a 15-16 is a CHILD.
No. 1030554
pedophilia is defined as being sexually attracted to someone 13 or younger, not 15-16. i'm not saying it's okay that he fucked those girls, but it's not pedophilia. and "manson"
>>1030436 said, "a pubescent teen." those are 10-14, so idk why we were even discussing the other.
No. 1030585
>>1030554Like that anon said, that is just semantics. And that’s NOT how most of society sees it. They are still children.
He is a man that is in his fucking fifties. Quit trying to normalize something so sick.
>but it's part of the rock culture which will hopefully change.That is some sorry excuse, because no it’s NOT. That’s pedo culture. When I was a minor and would go after guys in rock bands, they would want nothing to do with me because I was still a child. But when I was a kid I didn’t know any better.
> Many "kids" start their "adult" life at 16 y.o., sometime even earlier So. That doesn’t mean they’re an “adult”.
>For me 17-18 yo having a one night stand with her idol is borderline okay Yea, it’s only okay if you’re around that age range.
(Dawn) No. 1030726
>>1030514True, but considering that 12 year olds look like 20 year olds these days it's wrong to call someone a pedo for being attracted to them cause it's literally impossible to tell how old they really are.
Pedos are attracted to actual kids or childlike features. And like I said, most 12 year olds look way older nowadays, so they wouldn't even be interesting to real pedos anymore.
And as far as I know Manson never fucked girls under 17/18. Is he a scumbag? Yep. Pedo? No.
No. 1030776
>>103072612 yr olds don’t look like 20 yr olds , if Manson is attracted to a child he is a pedo. Stop
victim blaming
No. 1030872
>>1030870I’m not lying. You only wish I was.
>Pedos are attracted to actual kids or childlike features. And like I said, most 12 year olds look way older nowadays, so they wouldn't even be interesting to real pedos anymore. There are no 12 year olds that look like 20 year olds. Also, not knowing a person’s age is no excuse.
The screenshots I have on my computer that the cops have, you can clearly tell these are 11-12 year old children.
>And as far as I know Manson never fucked girls under 17/18. Is he a scumbag? Yep. Pedo? No.That’s maybe your take on it, but most people would consider it one. And it’s totally sick. I don’t look at a 17-18 year old and think they look like an adult. They look like a child still.
And under 18 would be considered child pornography.
(Dawn) No. 1030883
>>103072611-12 year olds don’t have boobs or hips. He called some 11 or 12 year old “hot”. I wanted to vomit.
Now it all adds up when he made that comment saying there should be a dating app for “sexy” kids.
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this is no coincidence this just popped up. How gross!(Dawn)
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>>1030888Yeah but probably won’t be helpful on here because I have to black out their identities for privacy reasons.
(Dawn) No. 1030920
>>1030886It's photoshoped, he's with Dita in original pic.
PLEASE, FARMHAND, ban Dawn for good.
No. 1030988
>>1030948No one was disgusted because it was a joke. His thing is unintelligent word play that he seems to think is clever. But this pedo shit is such a reach, stick to the known
abusive behavior because that’s what we’re discussing.
No. 1030993
>>1030948That video was posted in the last thread. There was, like, one comment out of all of them calling him that. Everyone knows that he only says shit like that to be shocking. No one else tries to start that rumor except for you.
And this picture
>>1030906 is ridiculous. What mother would let their daughter dress like that – much let her post it on Facebook? "Your too hot," literally sounds like it was written by some illiterate incel. If his account was deleted, there was no point in marking over the name, unless you care about his privacy. My guess is that you were in a chat-group(?) with some shitty people and decided to try and pass it off as being Manson, for whatever reason. That's if the messages aren't fake. But I doubt you have the time to learn how to photoshop anything other than your IG selfies when you're so busy putting your court case together, kek.
Start posting actual proof that he's a pedophile or shut the fuck up about it.
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If you say that we're ill
Just give us your pill“
“We are sick, fucked up and complicated
We are chaos, we can't be cured”
Looks like I found where he got his lyrics from. Interestingly, on a post about pedophila.(Dawn)
No. 1031287
>>1031275I’m not contradicting anything -
that’s me and someone else that posted those comments. Where do you get there’s only one word? I’m saying this is where he got the concept from.
>>1030925I KNOW 100000000% because he met one of the girls from that account which I posted about awhile back on the Danger account. I bet he didn’t pan on me seeing that either.
>>1030993Photoshop? I did not photoshop that picture. How can anyone tell if that’s photoshop? That looks real. I don’t know how to photoshop
pictures. I don’t even have a computer.
(Dawn) No. 1031299
>>1031287Oh, and there were a lot of comments on that video of people being disgusted. They cleaned it up from when I saw it 2 years ago.
>>1031295Well I have an above average IQ. So quite far from retarded. Can’t say the same about Manson though.
(Dawn) No. 1031499
>>1031287When did you post about him meeting up with an underage girl? Your post count hasn't changed since you went private, and there was nothing about that on your account before, at least not that I saw.
You don't need a computer to use Photoshop. I do it using my phone all the time. The photo you used as a profile picture on your account showed Manson Photoshopped into a clown, so you at least have basic knowledge of how to do it. And the photo you posted of your "search warrant" had a Lenovo laptop and Dell computer written on it, anyway:
>>1015029With your above average IQ and all, you really should be better at keeping your lies straight. Even Manson's probably smarter than you are.
No. 1031748
>>1031441Ew that’s disgusting. More like it makes me throw up.
>>1031499I didn’t say that specific girl that he “met” was underage. That I don’t know. But what I do know is he made sexual comments to ones that definitely were. And who knows if he met them too.
I posted about him meeting her months ago and that post got deleted because it was probably him that reported it.
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This is when I first called the sicko out. And then interestingly almost 5-6 months after that… that’s when Jessicka was exposing him and calling him a pedo.(Dawn)
No. 1032502
Meanwhile lyrics of the new album have been put online.
Uninteresting, not witty or smart, too many repetitions and unintended quotes from his past records. Each song reads like a psychopath's cry.
Victim shaming and
victim blaming included. You can enjoy at
https://genius.com/albums/Marilyn-manson/We-are-chaos No. 1032647
>>1032637Yes, it sounds like he’s mocking his
victims and his lyrics come across as narcissistic.
Does anyone else think this will probably be his last album? IDK why but I get the sense he’s winding down, wanting to retire. I’m sure he’ll tour to support this album but I can see him moving away from music after this to bit acting parts and such.
No. 1032677
>>1032637I’d be shocked if Lindsay wasn’t under a NDA, I doubt she could drop a bomb even if she wanted to.
>>1032658>>1032668It’s all speculation, of course, but the dude is a sex addict and implied several times in interviews that he doesn’t like condoms. Clare Burley said he didn’t use condoms with her. It wouldn’t be far fetched if he actually has HIV.
No. 1032692
>>1032502There’s a lot of hate and anger being thrown at someone . And a lot about death. There’s only a couple songs I thought the lyrics were intelligent , but for the most part, I agree w/ the other anons, that it doesn’t seem like he put much effort in.
What the fuck does “apples are always something to fear” suppose to mean? Why is he talking about fruit in his lyrics? What is so fearful about apples? Lmao
No. 1032697
>>1032692It seems like most of his modern stuff was just written to send messages to ppl he knows
>>1032677Wouldn't it have ran out by now though? Why would he stay with her if she couldn't say anything about what he did anyway?
>>1032668If he had an HIV, I doubt so many people would be sleeping with him and none of his exes, recent or otherwise, have mentioned anything about it. He deserves it though lol
No. 1032736
>>1032697Two words… Charlie Sheen
It took a long time for him to come out with it
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Yikes.
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Internet girlfriend. She doesn't even know Lindsay personally lmao
No. 1034730
>>1012472>>1034706I think they are trying to stay on good terms with all his exes in case he'll need their support. Just like with Rose, I don't think they are genuinely interested in friendship with her.
As for Lindsay, I doubt there's one more woman in the world with this little self-respect.
No. 1034786
>>1012472>>1034778Well, in JD's case people cared what his exes had to say. However I do believe Manson and Lindsay might want to be friendly with his ex girls
lest these girls say something negative.
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i have no idea id this is true or not, but I've been hearing that MM supposedly had/is having an affair with Poppy? I can kinda see that, considering she's 25, looks younger than that and is probably anorexic, but there's no proof behind it. I just want to know if anyone here knows if this is bullshit or not. If it is true I feel so bad for Ghostemane.
No. 1034882
>>1034862Poppy is sick and
abusive, she also used to have a thread of her own, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had a thing.
No. 1034925
>>1034862They were working on a project together a while ago that they never released. She seems like his type. Anon,
>>1034882, what did she do?
>>1034886Why would he lie to Michelle about raping Evan? I thought she already knew about everything he'd done. I never saw anything public about him and Mickey Rourke, either. I'm curious about why he started speaking to Michelle to begin with. Wasn't it posted somewhere in one of the other threads that she was a groupie or something?
No. 1034954
>>1034886I’m not disputing that but I recall it was vague? The date of his text matched the Italian show. I wish I could find the cap again.
>>1034925I believe they met backstage and she claims they were just friends. Manson did tag her in his post so he definitely knows her.
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Lindsay nowadays likes Coco even though she used to refer to her "caca shitnel".
No. 1035208
>>1035197I can imagine she didn't know Coco was another friend of Manson/Yoshiki that spams their IG. You can't be seen being catty to your sugar husband's friends' groupies, Lindsay. It's a bad look for golddiggers.
M's probably asking Yoshiki to throw her a social media bone since nobody gives a wet shit about another
toxic dependapotomous. I'm very curious how he fits into Manson's life considering he usually ends up in pics with Manson's circle, including Poppy.
No. 1035239
>>1035237That's not spilling milk, anon, that's sageless drama baiting. Deets or die.
Although I wouldn't doubt Yoshiki is a pump-n-dumper, I doubt if they did have a fling that it was very good based on how hard she crawls into his IG comments & how hard he ignores her. Who even is Teale Coco? One of those IG altwear brand "founders"?
>>1035217Gotta love how every talentless nobody (Lindsay) and washed up creative type (Manson, Yoshiki, dozens of others) always ends up doing photography. It's so… cheap and lazy. A special needs kid could take a community college class and become a half decent photographer, there's not much actual skill incolved these days now that the cameras and editing apps do most of the work themselves.
No. 1035259
>>1035197Lindsay is so obvious.
After countless drama with his side chicks she went MIA for years. Returns and buys bots, lies for Manson and kisses everyone’s ass, drops several marriage hints, and now wants to play Hollywood housewife pushing her own line of perfume.
She wants fame and money and he needs a cover.
No. 1035268
>>1035245Maybe Teale is cozying up to Lindsay for the sake of trying to get to Yoshiki? He knows goddamn everybody despite how little he actually
does.
No. 1035282
>>1035275Imo, the only reason I can see Manson hiding bisexuality is because he markets himself as a goth heartthrob (elderly and obese but sadly still) and that might turn some people off. Maybe he wants to keep it private for personal reasons, idk.
I would think we’d hear about more men if it were true though.
No. 1035286
>>1035275Yoshiki's "Russian SB" is a total mystery. Aside from the tweets he posted years and years ago when he first got with her and was being super obvious about it, she hasn't been seen, mentioned or anything else yet any time Yoshiki comes up in a thread, someone mentions her. It just seems weird considering how
little info there is about her compared to all his past exes. It's almost like someone wants to create false intrigue around her in the hopes that anons will dig up info on her, but that's stupid because Yoshiki's batshit obsessed Chinese fans already doxxed her on a forum years ago & she deleted her IG and twitter, that's when Yoshiki started the "Xx" thing as a kind of signal. If he's had her for almost 10 years and he's still hiding her/not married or at least engaged, I doubt he'll make her public and she's probably just around as long as she sticks around, until he's relevant and working enough to replace her with some younger alt influencer.
No. 1035731
>>1035551Having attraction to another man doesn't make someone day.
Someone can be physically attracted but not mentally attracted to the same gender
Someone can be attracted to physical characteristics like body parts (penis…etc.) and still consider themselves straight.
Men aren't the only people with penises. He seems like the type that would like mental and external appearance female but have Male body parts
No. 1035810
Found the Jrock thread in /m/:
>>>/m/14863Go there to discuss Yoshiki/Teale Coco & their matching necklaces, not here.
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Lol
New interview is a drop of milk.
Guess who's friends with Twiggy aka Jessicka Addams' rapist again?
Someone is gonna get butthurt in 1… 2…
No. 1036595
>>1035731>having attraction to another man doesn't make someone gayLiteral definition of gay. Whether it's romantic or sexual attraction, same-sex attraction is gay. Physical or romantic opposite sex attraction is straight.
Driveby comment, may be missing context.
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Since there hasn't been any new milk for a bit, I looked through Lindsay's livejournal (@xneverenoughx) that hasn't been updated since 2003. Nothing really interesting, just more of her ramblings, bad hygiene, and contradictions. Apparently, she used to travel and might've been married to someone else before she met Manson. Seems like she might've been anorexic at one point. Her relationship with her mother was shitty until she started getting money from him. That's probably the only reason Hope's nice to her now. It almost makes me feel bad for her, even though she's a bitch. And there were some mentions of someone named "Marilyn," so maybe she had something going on with him before it was public.
Her life didn't seem perfect before she met him, but it was so much better than what she has now – sitting in a hotel room, waiting for her husband while he's busy with some groupie, all the negativity she got (and probably still gets privately). I have such a hard time believing all his fans hated her for, like, 5 years straight for the sole reason that she was dating him, and now everyone loves her and thinks she's so beautiful. She seemed way more interesting before she went long-term with him. It's like he sucked the life out of her.
No. 1037370
>>1037285It's obviously about Marilyn Monroe.
If I kept asking my parents to give me money instead of getting a job, I wouldn't have good relationship with my mom too.
If she was married before then she's even more pathetic. At first it was her parents who paid for her, then it was her sister. I think at some point the latter could try to stop funding her grown ass sister, so what could Lindsay do? Given she's lazy and talentless? She could try to stick to a man who'd pay for her, marriage could be the only way to 'financial freedom' for her.
If you did read her livejournal, idk how you find her more interesting before Manson. She's always been vapid.
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From MIB, Traci Lords dated Manson in the 90’s.
No. 1037746
>>1037499I'm curious why he never abused some of the women he went out with. Dita and Rose were spared for obvious reasons, but I don't understand why he never abused women like Traci Lords or any of his girlfriends before he was famous. No one would've payed much attention to their stories because they would've been a low-profile, especially if they went to the police after the statue of limitations on their case ran out. Evan had her own career, and I can still remember how public their relationship was. If anything, Rose would've been one of the easiest
victims because she'd already been through that before. But she's never said anything negative about him or their time together, so I don't really believe he ever hurt her. It puts me on the fence about Evan's case too because she's always said good things about him. I don't think he really started abusing women heavily before the whole affair scandal. Dita was the one that tipped him over the edge.
No. 1037821
>>1037746If you haven’t already, read the threads from the beginning. Several women have accused him of abuse.
Dita has implied in interviews that Manson was erratic and violent in their marriage.
I agree she was his tipping point.
Rose isn’t exactly a reliable source:
>>1026059 No. 1037843
>>1037821I didn't say that he wasn't
abusive. I just thinks Evan's case is a bit strange because she's always said positive things about him and still does. I think Rose is mostly credible, but only when she speaks about her own case. She wants justice for herself and no one else. If he had abused her, she probably would've named him along with Weinstein. If what she said is true about her rejecting "hush-money" from him, I don't know why she'd accept it from Manson. Pathetic that she still quotes him on her Twitter. It just seems like she just wants to hang onto the coattails of their relationship forever.
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>>1037499Twitter is getting more interesting.
The best mom award goes to Hope Harvey, the best sister award goes to Ashley Usich-Iha, the best dad award goes to James Usich.
I don't understand, it's not like her family is poor, why did they dump her like that? She might have been not the brightest kid, lazy, okay, whatever, but she's their family. The fuck is wrong with them?
I checked Instagram of that guy, he's followed by sgab71. He doesn't lie.
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>>10378813-3
If there's more, I will bring more.
Why was not he put under an NDA?
No. 1037905
>>1037882There should be some alternative logic explaining their relationships.
In 2014 Manson was seeing Courtlyn, Courtlyn claimed Lindsay threatened to sue her and Manson. Manson took Lindsay to red carpet and didn't hide her at all around the time (exactly 2014-2015). If Lindsay did threaten to take some legal action against Manson then it has some sense: she threatened him => he left Courtlyn => he granted Lindsay with more publicity and acknowledged her as his gf (he used to follow her, give her likes and post photos by her). If I am not mistaken that's exactly the time when a lot of stories about Lindsay's aggressive behavior towards female fans came to surface. Apparently she gained more control over her position at the time. Manson dumped her at the beginning of 2015, toured without her for 2-3 months but brought her with him to Europe, since that moment she was always behind the curtains, he didn't show her off. That's when Manson would belittle her and humiliate her according to that guy but he says it was that way in 2014 too. What the hell at this point?
Why Lindsay was "powerful" enough to come back as his gf in 2014, made it to red carpet but took all that humiliation according to that guy? The only option how she could sue Manson would be using her father's resources. It seems her family wanted to give her back to Manson and stop caring about her ever since? What's wrong with them? What's wrong with Lindsay they don't want her that bad? What happened in 2015 (and continued in 2016) that Manson gave zero fucks about her threats? He had massive fuckfest with loads of groupies in 2015-2016, he also basically "embarrassed her to the world" just like that guy says in 2016 (or 2015) when he publicly insulted her and uploaded that video to her Instagram account.
Is she back now just because her parents dumped her one more time and they have enough blackmail material on him?
I do not question that they blackmail him as too many different people close to him confirmed it but I don't understand these fluctuations in their relationships.
Any ideas what the hell?
and this, kids, what happens to you when you don't get any education and do not even try to have a career, you become dependent on your family and then whoever your family dump you onto.
No. 1037918
>>1037908could be, then there is less sense to everything.
>>1037912>He appeared with Lindsay at events already in 2013 even earlier, in 2011 or 2012, but he didn't take her to official events before 2014, didn't try to present her to the press. idk how to explain that in 2014 she was kinda officially the main chic. that was the impression. he talked about her in interviews, regularly posted pics by her, etc.
No. 1037923
>>1037920>Why less sense?because he did give her more acknowledgement in 2014 compared to 2014-
I don't understand that change of attitude, especially when it's known how brutally he dropped her in 2015.
according to her brother stories and what anons found he promised he would marry her in 2014. but she claimed she was his bride in 2012 already. these ups and downs should have a reason, idk.
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Does anyone know anything further about Rudy Coby?
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>>1037972Apparently, they didn't stop being friends until at least 2012-2013. I don't know what could've caused it, though. Did Coby ever post about Manson's abuse?
No. 1037996
>>1037991Apparently he liked Evan’s posts about her abuse and the Phoenix Act. I didn’t see it myself but I remember fans talking about it at the time.
I don’t know they’re not friends anymore or why Manson allegedly talked shit about him in his book but that seems to be a pattern for Manson.
No. 1037999
>>1037997samefag
just checked, he started posting more of ERW starting with 2016. A lot more. I think he took her side.
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>>1038006Cap from second thread. Manson saying he gave Hope Harvey money and threatening to cut her off.
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>>1037997>>1037999>>1037991Rudy Coby recently retweeted Evan’s testimony. He was around when Evan and Manson dated.
No. 1038326
>>1012472>>1038236Lol
That man's tweets were reposted, I don't think it's because of lolcow.
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Lol he was creeping on the person who made a video with Evan's testimony viral.
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>>1038472decided to read his recent interview
does anybody believe it is not Lindsay who cleans after the cats and takes care of them in general?
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/09/marilyn-manson-we-are-chaos-interview-2020/ No. 1038572
>>1038534>>1038527>>1038537Did you notice she has 332k followers on IG? I literally couldn't find real ones doing random check…bot after bot after bot. She also follows over a thousand people now, still liking every single picture of MM over and over again. It's like she doesn't do anything besides IG.
What an exciting life. I also wonder how the sale of prints is going?
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>>1038572Yeah, I don’t think anyone believes she’s getting average 2k followers a day. She had a steady 35k for months before the bots took over.
>>1037882“He would remind her she’d be homeless without him and make fun of her learning disabled family member.”
What a fucking asshole.It’s quite possible after years of his abuse Lindsay is brainwashed and thinks she can’t do better. But at some point she has to take responsibility for herself and seek help.
>>1038326There’s also been recent media coverage on his abuse, lots of talk about it on Reddit.
https://medium.com/@esmebiancoofficial/read-esme-biancos-grueling-unedited-testimony-as-a-domestic-violence-survivor-in-support-of-the-427e45081fe9https://www.thethings.com/people-are-boycotting-marilyn-mansons-music-due-to-sexual-assault-allegations/ No. 1038675
>>1038651good question.
I doubt Lindsay will do anything. The best she could do is to drop a pic of her boobs for anons. My bet she thinks she's better than ERW so she'll never do what ERW has done.
Esmé's testimony sheds some light on M+L life together:
>Frequently I was sent away, expected to stay gone all night with nowhere else to go, while he carried out his numerous affairs. If he didn’t want the bother of asking me to leave, I would be locked in the bedroom. No. 1038748
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>>1038678Agree, she even thought so too.
No. 1039053
>>1038967Anything new in the video?
I have watched a bit, it seems lolcow and mansonisabusive are her main sources. I am not blaming, I am glad people use the threads to learn more but I don't want to waste my time.
No. 1039084
>>1039053This was new:
https://youtu.be/YvKMS9oFHFkSomeone on Taylor's production team
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>>1039053I haven’t seen these before.. so far most people have said dita wasn’t abused.
These interviews say otherwise.
It’s been said she left on Christmas Eve because she caught him with ERW.
No. 1039145
>>1039053nothing new, don't waste your time. everything she says and finds was brought here and discussed.
>>1039135there was several posts in the 3d thread about Dita debunking
>she left on Christmas Eve because she caught him with ERW.and it was repeatedly posted by mansonisabusive, you may want to follow them.
No. 1039664
>>1038967As someone who follows this thread this video was REALLY vague. She did not even brush up on HALF of the information she couldve. I wonder if that Jordyn chick talked? Because I find it strange that out of all the connections on that abuse page she chose ONE chick.
I think she was being too generous with the "girlfriend" thing. It sounds like groupie stories. The only one he's called girlfriend was Lindsay. The photo of Lindsay with the black eye explained she did it with a seatbelt on an airplane. I think its a reach to claim she's locked up somewhere, she's always posting photos outside or photos of her cats. Unless he has the girl locked up with 7 different cats as her only companions I don't buy it
Plus, she posts about friends. Is she doing these interviews by carrier pigeon?
No. 1039676
>>1039664>I think she was being too generous with the "girlfriend" thing. It sounds like groupie stories.Does it matter if he abused girlfriends or groupies? Neither deserve it.
>I think its a reach to claim she's locked up somewhereI don’t believe Ellie Jayden claimed Lindsay is locked up? Manson’s ex girlfriends said they were locked in a “bad girl room” that Manson admitted to in interviews.
>>1039666>Evan's a bitch I would hit her too tbh. Seek help for your anger issues.
No. 1039683
>>1039676I don't think they said that Lindsay was "locked up," but they did show a few photos of her with bruises/scars/cuts, besides the one with the black eye that she'd posted herself. To be honest, I still don't get who's
abusive in their relationship. Like, she blackmails him to marry her, but he beats the shit out of her, so…
No. 1040176
>>1040131
Is he wants her around, what about all of those times they broke up and then got back together? Obviously, at some point, he wanted her gone. It really doesn't seem like he cares about her. It's been psychologically proven that narcissists can't fall in love, especially when they don't take their medicine and go to therapy. They fall in love with the idea of someone, and then drop them once they find out that they're mirrors of themselves. She's nothing more than an enabler to him because she's the only one that's been willing to put up with his shit for that long. He doesn't even acknowledge her as anything other than his, “life partner,” in interviews. I know a lot of farmers feel sorry for her because he supposedly abuses her, but she victimizes herself. She had a chance to leave. Instead, she decided to harass his side-chicks and threaten to kill herself to make him stay. It's ridiculous that she's so desperate that she'd con an abusive junkie into marrying her just so she'd have a reliable source of income and a verified IG account. Maybe she's got Stockholm Syndrome. It doesn't sound that far-fetched. Evan had it, too.
No. 1040249
>>1012472>>1040131>The blackmail shit is bullshit too. Lol, anon. We have screenscaps of her mother talking about photos and reports, we have his texts to fearless about money train for her mom.
Manson doesn't love her, he loves to abuse her and he pays her for that. It's only imo.
And she does not love him after all these years, she wants money and a seemingly stable life. I don't believe she has nowhere to go. Sad but true. Again it's only imo.
No. 1040366
>>10403423+ months ago Lindsay was talking to a fan account (no surprise here), anon talked to the latter and posted dms here
>>984478Pay attention it's her parents that wanted M to marry L. And L is 35 yo. Do the math.
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>>1040373nta and didn't actually want to get into your discussion but you need to learn how to sage.
>in an interview once that they had a “Dali/Gala” relationshipcould you drop a link? Because he barely talks about her in his interviews. Until a few day ago btw. It was her who compared them to Dali/Gala in comments section to his post.
Did you guys ever think her parents just don't want to support their 30+ y.o. daughter and just gave her to manson and couldn't care less?
rumors about Lindsay being
abusive had been out there long before he met Madelyn, and I read them in languages Madelyn cannot speak.
They both are POS and
abusive, they are a perfect couple like anons said. The difference is that Manson has a longer list of
victims than Lindsay has. And let's face it, Manson has always been smarter than Lindsay. However, idk why you think he is powerful when he is completely irrelevant. He is powerful only in his head, which should have been exposed to psychiatrist long ago.
Dear mods I am very sorry I am going to samefag for a few posts, I want to bring caps and a video.
I promised I would post about his website getting hacked long ago. Thank you, anon, for reminding me, I can't find your post now but I hope you'll notice this post.
If you speak Russian you can visit
https://vk.com/mmseal?w=wall-42088363_5779 you can tell it wasn't a joke they posted. It was in 2013.
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Manson gave a new interview to Apple Music. It's surprising he was sober, he has put so much weight though…
The interview is long, the biggest piece of it is on youtube. I watched a little bit. He tries to sound relatable via talking about losing his parent and his pain, I almost felt sorry for him but c'mon, your mom died long ago, you dad died a few years ago and you already dedicated HUD to him, he also says he's proud of the man his father taught him to grow up into (pardon my english). That's controversial right?
I think he is not living right now, more like he's dwelling too much on his past but, like I said, I am really surprised he sounds sober.
Like I said above he actually talked about Lindsay, without mentioning her name lol. AND it seems they are not married yet(?)
The piece about Lindsay
https://vk.com/mansonsource?w=wall-237426_1565326Transcription by my non-native ear.
Interviewer: What about your heart? You trust that? I mean .. you've tried marriage before you are .. now what I can see from the timeline
(my ass? Manson gave him a timeline of his abuse history with Lindsay?) in a relatively
(lol, the interviewer hasn't seen Lindsay's insta? She posted they are with Manson since 2009? She is his *longest
* gf) long-term relationship . and.. you know
Manson is pointing at his ring, see pic related yeah .. and you've spoken of her really funly and she's also in arts
(lol what? in arts? lmao) as well, so you have that in common, so how does that play(?) into your artist(ic?) spirit? does it inspire you? because I know you like the idea of that, right?
(the idea of what? I don't understand the interviewer)Manson: I like the idea of romance. But not romance in the traditional way, like flower and going to a dinner.. and you know like the bachelor bullshit like that. I idealize the concept of romance in Shakespearean way like…What I took from that was to try to have romance prevail over the hatred
(wtf? the same shit he was pouring down to Evan's ear? Together as one against all others?) or the evil, or the oppressing forces of that. So I was taking the romantic sense and about the world, which, you have to remember, obviously for both of us, is comprised of all the people we don't know. You and I, we know each other, so that's different.
Idk the fuck he wanted to say at the end. And it's funny the interviewer gave Lindsay more credit than Manson did, Manson didn't even say a word about her.
No. 1040400
>>1040390I am very sorry, I think I misheard here:
>and you've spoken of her really funly and she's also in arts it's probably
fondly, not
funly No. 1040498
>>1040384I don't remember anyone on vk or baginya org saying that Usich was
abusive to him. I was researching a lot thou. She didn't let him to go to meet a fan girl in the hotel in Moscow once. He was hunging out next evening with Alyona, famous starfucker, in a hotel room. Ryan told one Russian chick that Usich is evil bc she's brawling a lot. Manson said once that he stabbed her to death while he was in ekaterinburg in 2012. I'll look for that thread and will add it.
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Here we go. One fan asks a girl who were at afterparty if she has seen Usich. The girl answered that Usich wasn't there, she stayed at hotel and everyone including manson were joking all the time that they stabbed her to the death.
No. 1040530
>>1040498you cannot learn to sage, right?
the sources you mentioned are not deep Russian web, and I didn't say it was in Russian in first place, and you should know that a lot of communication goes on in chats.
>>1040493I don't think he married her in 2017, but why is it even important if he married her or not?
I wish I knew what LKB is doing now. She could really punch him now when people started calling him out.
No. 1040675
>>1040610>>1040610I'm not sure why you anons freak out when people say their married, almost as if you're broken hearted friends but theres this thing called common law marriage that states if you live with someone in a conjugal way for a certain number of years you can be considered married when it comes to splitting assets.
They don't have it in California but Lindsay has clearly assisted him with making his last three albums like the cover art. And she clearly helps him run his social media with fans. I think she does direct dealings with the fan club and stuff like that. That being said she could be considered an employee and could probably already be on his information anyways as his employee and partner.
They got married because they wanted to get married. Accept it.
The idea that he married her solely because of the life insurance is dumb considering he's only 51, has already spend 10 years with her living as husband and wife. Or long term life partners.
He rarely mentions her and I think it says a lot because beforehand he was always mentioning his girlfriends. I don't see the appeal but he clearly found someone in Lindsay and he's been with her for 10 years, wears a ring now and clearly has no interest in sharing her with the rest of the world.
No. 1040715
I know most of us don't believe Manson and Madelyn ever had a fling, but it really wouldn't surprise me if they did. She has no reason to obsess over him, and I don't buy the “crazy fan” rumor. The majority of his fanbase is batshit, but they don't go on rampages of trying to convince people that they're in a relationship with him. They all fawn over Lindsay now because they're convinced he loves her and that that's what he wants from them. If he was still following hate-pages and insulting her publicly, they would've kept hating her. It seems like he fed Madelyn his shit for so long that she actually started believing that they were soulmates, and he'd come back to her. It's sad, really.
I don't believe they're married because they love each other, either. He literally cannot fall in love. The chemical makeup in his brain won't allow him to. He loves himself, and that's it. The fixation point has passed. There's nothing drawing him to her anymore. There has to be some other reason they're married, whether it's for legal purposes, blackmail, or just because he's exhausted with trying to satisfy her.
During the entire Apple interview, all I could think about was him video-calling some girl and jacking off on that couch while Lindsay was locked in their bedroom. It looked like he was checking himself out on the screen every time the camera was pointed directly in front of him.
No. 1040919
>>1040675>clearly assisted him with making his last three albumsthree? hell no.
she did just one banner for tour a couple of years ago, she did a cover for BV, which nobody liked.
she has absolutely nothing to do with the cover art of his last three albums.
the only appeal he could find in her is that she tolerates everything he does, she is dependent on him and his money. She's his tasty prey, she's his enabler.
>yall want to downplay it or invalidate it.nobody wants to add one more
victim to the list. nobody wants to believe more women can be interested in him at this stage.
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Manson only sold 30k records in the first week, that’s really low sales.
https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming No. 1041678
>>1041664>>1041668Eh, I see more on Twitter and some on Reddit. See the tag istandwithevan and lots of people retweeted her testimony.
Those sales are similar to HUD, he’s had low sales for a while.
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Madelyn is right #mentoo!!!
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Violet Orlandi
No. 1043199
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New photo of Lindsay not from her Instagram.
Her sister looks fine at her 35. Lindsay is like a newbie beekeeper, why did she have to mess with her face? She could be like Ashley now but nah, wasted…
No. 1043685
Wow. These threads are a wild ride for someone who at some point looked up to him. We're at the point where Manson fans basically don't even want to read any stuff on Manson anymore, cause they'll only get more and more disappointment.
I've seen people discussing here whether Manson has always been like that or if he changed for the worse in last 10 years. He's always been narcissistic, but back in 90's-00's he used to have some intelligence, interesting concepts. Now it's just endless cringe and it looks as if brain simply melted away. As much as MM fans glorify Antichrist Superstar years, they'll all tell you how tired they are of his current "bad boy" attitude and striving to be "dangerous". He glorifies abuse towards his girlfriends, cause he's fond of idea of "not being able to change". Regarding his racist/sexist remarks: I bet he likes using n-word and such because of current world's mindset, he'll do this because that's "bold" and "against the social morality" now. It's not even corageous, it's childish.
Someone mentioned Manson being in love with the idea of a girlfriends than a girlfriends itself - I agree. If anything, he was in love with the image, treating his relationships more like movie scripts than anything else. Dita was his burlesque silent movie decadent Berlin phase, ERW was his "abusive emo Twilight" phase. Idk what is Lindsay. Maybe "Hollywood wreck" phase. Remember Coma White, a girl character from his Mechanical Animals album? I have the impression he considered Rose McGowan his Coma White and then he became disenchanted when he realized she's a real person, not a romanticized idea. I don't remember who left who first but I recall something like that from interviews.
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>>1043685Rose said in an interview a few years ago that they broke up because of her cocaine addiction. He did a painting of her after they split up –
Did I Introduce You to My Other Personality? It seems like he was making a dig at her.
No. 1044480
>>1012472>>1044462Yeah, it's like he promised her he'd film her for his video in 2009 or when they say they met and now FINALLY ten years later lmao.
She has a lot of screen time, probably more than that guy from Death Stranding. They are serious about building her a career lol.
No. 1044693
>>1044585I doubt they go much farther than what they're doing now. It seems like he gives her just enough to keep her satisfied until he can run away from her again.
Once quarantine is over, they'll probably go back to the way they were before – groupies, insults, and zero publicity for her.
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>>1044462this would all have seemed so impressive in 1996.
No. 1046061
A fan posted their interpretation of the mv. He paints himself as the
victim (again).
> He says, "holy shit, baby, you were right," in the beginning, so she knew about the art and suggested the heist. She says she loves him (after he says it), so she's "baby." But obv she was just using them both to get the art. (I interpreted the initial M/N argument as N being pissed that she's there. He never acknowledges her and is distressed that M dies, so I feel like he isn't in on it.) She has a plan for after, bc she's so calm and knows where she's going. But she doesn't have a bag or a vehicle waiting or anything. Therefore I conclude that she must have a secret partner waiting for a big escape. And it's a woman bc she seems awkward and bored with the guys. And bc I say so.
> If I had to guess, M and N are thieves together (dressed alike, do each other's eyes shadow, are the only 2 who interact beyond the voiceover in the begining). L gets those inappropriately long nails in M bc he's the soft, sensitive one. He falls hard. Bc of course he does. So all she has to do is suggest the hit, go along (which M can't refuse, even tho it pisses N off), take them both out, and take the goods.
> I feel bad for N, bc he's dark and bitchy, but he shakes M a lot, yells to keep him awake, prob berates him for trusting her or bringing her along. He obv cares but there's nothing else he can do. M just bleeds out next to him. Brutal af. Why doesn't he run or fight her? Idk. Maybe he's not 100% sure it was her. Like, maybe there was a scuffle with a security guard and she took advantage of it. Maybe he's just heartbroken and figures he might as well die there with M. Maybe he planned to, but bc she didn't wait for the car to stop, he couldn't.The post is here:
https://skin-slave.tumblr.com/post/630369851423277056/professorkittymcpause-just-my-opinion-but-he No. 1048933
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>>1046587Interesting, because he posts hella hate about ERW on his own page. Racist?
>>1048835Lol
Madelyn definitely has a hard on for Trump but she’s still liking anti Lindsay comments on IG. Look under the newest marilynmansonnews post for catsanddevils. She’s too crazy to give it up that easily.
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I second a thread for Madelyns crazy ass. How about when she posted this story trying to justify buying the same cats as Manson as being necessary for her SEVERE cat allergy, despite the fact that she literally had a regular ass cat for years until he… “ran away.” She’s truly special.
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>>1049106
Lindsay looks like she’s had one too many facelifts and Manson’s face is rounder than that, this was from his Apple Music interview last week.
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Tinfoil, feel free to ignore.
Manson started following Rudy Coby who recently hinted at supporting Evan.
>>1037972>>1038087 I think he does this shit to intimidate people like how he used to follow Evan, as well.
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Lmao is that a compliment?
No. 1050277
>>1050269wanted to ask this question too
fat clown can't congratulate her in stories, pathetic reposts only
No. 1051150
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>>1051121That's a tattoo. She just covers it up most of the time. It's actually on her left arm, but the version she posted was flipped. It's really amazing how terrible they look in real life compared to how they try to portray themselves on IG. It's like they have nothing else to do besides convincing people that they're this stunning goth couple. Also – hover hand.
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>>1050262that's a good find. he does try to control and silence everyone who speaks of or hints at his
abusive behavior.
did anybody notice both of them stopped shitposting in Rose's comments?
>>1051107seeing photos of Manson makes me think I know everything about hiding my triple chin. And I don't have one. seeing photos of Lindsay makes me think I know everything about hiding scars on my hands, but guess what? There aren't any on
my hands.
And yet you can see old bruises like marks on her hand, see pic in the red dress.
btw I just realized Lindsay has a copycat-after-Dita beauty mark on the right side of her face, not left where Dita has hers. Why does she flip
ALL her photos? To look exactly (lol) like Dita?
one more question: can getting lip fillers make it difficult for you to close your mouth?
and the last questions: why was not she with Manson on her birthday? It seems she spent the entire day with her sister.
No. 1051737
>>1051648Dita's beauty mark is on the right side of her face. Lindsay's is on the left, but it changes when she flips her photos. She started dressing like her as soon as they went public with their relationship, except she had red hair then. Before, she was just average looking. I'm still on the fence about whether or not Manson made her or if she did that on her own to make herself more of his type.
She should still be able to close her mouth unless there were complications with the procedure. But I doubt she worries about finding the best doctors, so it's believable. It looks like her lips have gotten bigger since quarantine started.
I bet they don't spend much time together besides going to events to save face. He probably gives her an allowance for her to keep her mouth shut and get out so he can sleep around.
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According to Lindsay herself, he was with her on the beach, but there's not a single photo of him.
It looks like she's really desperate to make that relationship look real.
No. 1052100
>>1052070How do you explain all the weird posts then? If she didn't have anything to prove she wouldn't post anything about him at all.
Her whole life revolves around him, it's sad.
Even her sister wrote "to another year of cats, flowers and Taylor Swift", which was probably meant as a joke, but that's basically all Lindsay has.
No. 1054682
>>1054575He IS kind of cliche now and he's irrelevant now lmao. He thinks he started it all but honestly that is false. The whole "no mom I'm not going to church, I hate middle America" thing was big in the 90s but is cringe now.
This generation is a lot more angrier than he ever was, smarter than he ever was, and most of us weren't born within a religion in the first place. If we had to listen to this guy talk about the bible on MTV (today) we would be bored of him. His appearance is not shocking…he is not shocking to us.
This summer I did a "riot tour" tour rioted through middle America got arrested for stealing in 2 states and didn't think about this "marilyn manson" bullshit not once.
This generation (our generation) would beat this mans ass and he's already CLOSE to be cancelled with all this Evan drama. If he made it mainstream today and everyone dug up all his Evan stuff, we'd end this guy on site. He would be a meme.
I know like ten guys that wear lipstock and eyeshadow. He just released an album and theres literally only one interview about it (itunes) and they didnt even post the whole conversation, he posted it in its entirety on his own channel. He's irrelevant now
No. 1055731
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Even with a face full of make-up Manson looks like shit.
Her caption is also sad. It's like he only treats her decently when other people are around.
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>>1055731A fan posted that photo on the Manson reddit and people are commenting that her photography skills are shit and she buys followers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marilyn_manson/comments/j7uu9b/norman_reedus_marilyn_manson_dctd_by_lindsay_usich/ No. 1055782
>>1055768Agree. Can you image being so arrogant that 70% of your followers are bots and assuming no one will notice or care? That says a lot about her personality.
If people are harsh on Lindsay she did it to herself. She participated in assault with Manson (LKB), lies for him, and several of his exes have called her a gold digging psycho. I have little sympathy for her.
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Manson's supposed to have a role in American Gods this season.
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Has anyone else noticed that he was wearing the same outfit in the Apple interview and when that rapper guy posted those photos? Those were almost 2 months apart. Not new milk, just thought it was a little interesting.
No. 1058505
>>1057144Y'all do know that isolation is part of narcissistic abuse, right?
I don't think she isolates herself on purpose, she's just sick of being abused and tries to avoid everything that upsets him.
No. 1058841
>>1058519But you are aware that Manson talks a lot of shit about other girls to his girlfriends, aren't you? It's typical for narcissists, Evan posts a lot about it. Lindsay might actually be the only one who's brainwashed enough to believe everything he says.
That woman has no friends, no money, no car, no other place to stay and a shitty family. She completely depends on him. There's not a single chance she'll leave him, even if she realized that her life is in danger.
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He's put on so much weight since quarantine started. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was close to 250lbs. I really can't believe that no one tells him how terrible he looks or says something about his health. That can't be good on his heart, especially not with all the cocaine and boozing he does.
No. 1059618
>>1059537Probably because they know nothing about her because he keeps her a cherished secret and the only other encounters mentioned are negative ones with fans so when they look her up theres people on reddit talking about her giving them dirty looks or cussing them out.
Also because she's dating him long term, probably the longest public gf he had and if they're fans, they're jealous? Never understood why people on here hate her, I feel sorry for her if anything
No. 1059637
>>1059617She always seems to be the one that starts shit, I think. @mansonisabusive posted a screenshot of Lindsay messaging her in her story, and most of Manson's side chicks shared caps of her harassing them, too – which, she has the right to be mad that he cheats on her, but it really wasn't those girls' faults either because he fed them his bullshit about how they'd broken up and convinced them he was only exclusive with them.
>>1059618Honestly, the reason there's so much negative stuff about her now is probably because there aren't that many good encounters that people have had with her. She just seems like a bitch in general. He's had a lot of other long-term relationships, too, but those gis didn't get half as much hate as she does. I don't feel sorry for her, though, because it's really her fault. If she hadn't been so rude to people and given them all those stories about her or just used her common sense and figured out that he didn't want her around anymore and she could leave back when she actually had a way out, she wouldn't be in the position she's in. She fought to keep her place by his side, and now she has to deal with the consequences of it.
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>>1059617>All of the caps are her responding to people, not instigating. Nah, there’s plenty of caps of her instigating shit. Danish Viktoria was a side chick, not a stalker as Lindsay said.
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>>1059617>>1059659And another cap from the MM cult with fans saying Hope Harvey and Lindsay harassed them.
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Not very milky but I noticed a couple more MM abuse accounts that recently popped up on IG.
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No. 1060610
>>1060605Wow and I just found @defining_hope’s IG after thinking she’s been very quiet.
https://instagram.com/defining_hope?igshid=1w2mwupwuekylMy condolences.
No. 1060632
>>1060616Maybe corona got her?
The post really is weird. It's not like her mother or Lindsay herself are/were famous. It's just for attention.
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Her mother died, but she's still busy liking posts from fan accounts? I don't buy that. Her mother isn't well known, even by Manson's fans. She'd have no problem disappearing from social media, and it's not like anyone looked at her page, anyway. Ashley grew up in the same household as Lindsay, so I really wouldn't be surprised if she had the same warped sense of morality as the rest of them do, at least enough to post about her mother dying so it'd be believable that she actually did. But I don't follow her and her profile is private, so I'm not really sure if she posted the same thing in her story or not.
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>>1060649
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>>1061705I don’t want to sound heartless but I’m not buying it. He’s milking this for sympathy, imo. There’s literally a cap of him saying, “I don’t like that mom” to 666fearless and there seemed to be some kind of shady financial arrangement between them.
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>>1061727double that
his story from yesterday
>i will miss you>a pic of muah Lindsay in case you forgot who lost their mommathe fuck is wrong with him?
>>1061705> death of his girlfriend’s mother> the mother of his on and off girlfriend, Lindsay Usich,they watched his recent story but couldn't remember what he posted a few months ago? hello they are married
>the talented photographer, Lindsay Usich>She is credited as the photo source for the cover art of Manson’s 2012 album, ‘Born Villain.’
> he’s a highly emotional and mindful person oh well..
No. 1061814
>>1061803Well, I think we all know he doesn't care about his health. Drugs, booze, unprotected sex with random girls. But I would be surprised if Lindsay EVER went outside or let him leave the house.
All she ever seems to do is like pictures of Manson or post pics of cats or flowers. So yeh, it might be a bit difficult for him right now.
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Does anyone else remember the story about the band covering a deaf groupie in lunch meat and pissing on her?
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>>1061795>>1061814He is a lazy POS. he wouldn't leave his house often anyway. I doubt Lindsay gives him much discomfort.
>he can't even stand his own girlfriend or wife or whatever we wanna call her.No real proof so far, sad but true.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/marilyn-manson-says-pandemic-has-been-devastating-for-his-mental-health-2789101?amp←- His ego is bigger than numbers he sees on scales kek.
>I’ll probably somehow get blamed for causing the world to fall apart, I’m sure. But I’m not looking for that credit. No. 1061853
>>1061844Her name is Adina Slotsky and she was in Demystifying the Devil.
>>1061838He’s trying
really hard to paint himself as falsely accused. He was blamed for Columbine 21 years ago and still trying to ride that coattail today.
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>>1062125He started gaining weight when he was married to Dita, then it got worse while he was with Evan. He looked better around the time he released Pale Emperor, and he said in an interview that he started working out and doing pilates, so it's not really a matter of him not being able to lose weight, he's just too lazy to get off his ass and stop drinking long enough to do it. It's almost hard to imagine the way he looked pre-Eat Me, Drink Me and the way he looks now as the same person. I think this is the worst shape he's ever been in.
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>>1062169a thread or two ago someone claiming to know him personally said he takes medication for bipolar disorder, some of those medications can make you gain an absolute ton of weight. I can't imagine how else he would have gained so much weight, even if he did absolutely nothing but chug vodka and sit on his ass for 30 years. He was a true ectomorph body type with basically zero body fat. Pic related is how I imagine him looking into a crystal ball in 1993
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Is it just me nitpicking or it's legit strange she posts this?
Okay I get it all people grieve in their own manner, there is no right way to do it but her behavior is beyond what I can understand.
>mom dies
>collects flowers
>arranges flowers
>collects mom's fav perfume
>puts the perfume in the flowers for a good pic
>puts it in Instagram story with a heartbreaking (nope) caption
lol what?
Also what's wrong with just saying my mother? Why does she always say "our mother"? Is it royal we? Communistic? Schizophrenic? It's your Instagram page, you are the only one here, it's your mother, wake up. And there is no need to write her name in every story. Who cares what's your mom's name?
And thanks for educating your followers. Those dumb bots wouldn't know Cologne is in Germany before you told them.
Milking your mother's death for content and sympathy points is legit gross. Fucking psychopath's diary.
No. 1062260
>>1062173I really think it's just the alcoholism, combined with his metabolism slowing down as he ages.
Alcohol makes you gain weight like crazy. Not just because of the calories in the alcohol itself. Your liver gives priority to processing the alcohol, since your body views it as a poison. This means it doesn't have time to process whatever else you're eating, and your body stores it as fat. That's why even alcoholics who don't eat a lot get a big belly. And we know Manson eats a bunch of junk as well.
As he ages and piles on years of alcohol abuse his liver will be less effective at processing alcohol. "Fatty liver" is a common symptom of alcoholism. So the process speeds up.
Also, if he really is a Narc, he probably won't deal well with a nutricionist or personal trainer telling him what to do. Narcs can't handle any pushback of any kind, which is inevitable in any weightloss regime. No, you can't have the oreos!
If he is on meds that would certainly not help. But I doubt that's everything that's going on.
No. 1062329
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So that's why he got engaged to Lindsay lmao
No. 1062349
>>1062244Yes, and her unnecessarily long description of 4711 comes across as pretentious.
Still no obituary for Hope? Manson’s parents both had obituaries that are still up.
No. 1062717
>>1062691I mean, it’s quite possible they’re being very private about it or funeral arrangements are delayed but not one mention of her death on her FB or any social media from family/friends? When my father died his date of death was showing up on background check sites within days. Noting for Hope, so far.
It would be insane if they’re faking it but also kinda strange
nothing comes up at all.
No. 1062811
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Mom just died and Lindsay is all over IG gushing over the wedding mention.
No. 1062821
>>1062808>>1062811He didn’t even announce it, Cage did.
In case anyone doesn’t know, Sailor and Lula are characters from
Wild at Heart who are criminals on the run. Seems fitting.
No. 1062829
>>1062808>By the way, is it okay to talk about your wedding?Lol I think Cage caught him off guard, Manson didn't announce anything.
It's strange to me Manson didn't pronounce her name in recent interviews, not in a single one. They really hoped to keep it private?
No. 1062856
>>1062811>>1062814Finally someone mentioned the wedding. You can't blame her because she waited for months to get some attention. I think it made her more desperate then the death of her own mother, the lack of interest in their marital status, I mean. The saddest thing is that she truly believes someone is actually jealous of them getting married and that he didn't announce it because he wanted to protect her from jealousy of his fans. He married the last one standing who will be his caretaker when the time comes.
That's it.
No. 1062900
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>>1062814she will NEVER leave.
mansonisabusive is public now, they had a post collecting many things manson has said about Lindsay over the years. wouldn't you leave immediately after your bf spoke such bs?
many of these are from 2012-2015, from the time when he had a lot of side girls and pushed her away as often as it could be and she did have a chance to leave him for good. her life is literally "you get served what you deserve".
The post if anybody is interested
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFg9Cv2lfUm/Caption:
Manson about Lindsay Usich, who's been in an on-again, off-again relationship with him since ca. 2009.
1. MTV, September 2012
2./3./4. Rolling Stone, January 6, 2015
5. The Guardian, January 18, 2015
6. film-news.co.uk, January 19, 2015
7. The Times, January 25, 2015
8. i-D, March 2015
9. The Daily Examiner, September 2016
10. Manson's comment on one of Lindsay Usich's posts, 2016
I didn't put the pig comment in the pic as it was posted many times here.
No. 1062987
>>1062914I think the worst thing waiting for her in future is that when Manson dies his
victims will name him, be it ERW, Esmé… Then ex fans will probably come forward and she'll have to face the accusations against her or just hatred as she's gonna be his widow and the person who will have covered his crimes for years.
Manson is a smart piece of shit. He'll die without having any major problems in his life prior to it but for Lindsay it's really a question of time.
I cannot believe she's that much of an idiot.
No. 1063024
>>1062856>>1062900He was probably reluctant to announce it because he’ll loose some female fans. Being married will be off putting to some groupies and side chicks. He’s just a fat, middle aged, married man stuck with Lindsay now. She’ll never leave him. She’s too demented, too brainwashed to do better.
>>1062987Agree, I think
lots of people will come out of the woodwork or name him when he dies. People will want to know why she covered his crimes.
No. 1063038
>>1063035Lmao
He better hope women like fat men if he wants to get laid again.
No. 1063055
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>>1063053Also Manson met tammy Bakker in the (I’m guessing) late 90’s early 2000’s.
No. 1063073
>>1063053>>1063055Okay… wouldn’t be surprising if Manson or Lindsay posted here. It comes up on google and they seem to have nothing better to do. Also, sage your shit.
>>1062900>wouldn't you leave immediately after your bf spoke such bs? I can only assume after years of his abuse
>>1037881 she has no self worth anymore.
No. 1065530
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I can't help but think that line was written about Lindsay.
No. 1066254
>>1066203I think it's one of his strategies to gaslight her. He is sick.
I remember Hope kept saying Manson protected them (and yet she continued to leak information to fan and haters about his life and new releases just like Lindsay did and does).
He was pouring shit into their ears saying terrible haters gonna hate them lol, and that's why he couldn't show Lindsay off. Now I am 100% sure it was his strategies not to distract new girls and to simply gaslight Lindsay.
Even now she can't fucking call him her husband, talk about the wedding or engagement openly. Everything we've seen so far is reposts in story and vague captions.
>Hope wasn't the nicest person which is probably why family members don't talk about her.read her facebook. I think she had control issues with her kids private life but she seemed to get on well with her eldest daughter Lori, she used to visit Ashley to see her grandkids and she spent quite a lot of time with Lindsay in 2016 for sure, probably Lindsay lived with her o vice versa.
No. 1066281
>>1066254Like it's been said before, he didn't want to get married.
And bc he's a narcissist he doesn't give a shit about others. He only uses them. He surrounds himself with people that blindly follow every step and every command of his.
His fans are the best example. Completely brainwashed people who'll harass and stalk everyone who says something against him.
And yeah, seems like Hope's children were the only ones who didn't abandon her. Maybe she manipulated them as well.
No. 1066312
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Ok which one of y’all have been messaging Madelyn lmao
And Madelyn, baby girl, first of all it’s LIBEL. Secondly it’s only libel if it’s patently untrue and you can prove it’s damaged your reputation. The only one damaging your rep is you, and we all know you’re catsanddevils, who literally spent years spreading rumors about Lindsay that you could never, ever prove. Screenshots to jog your memory :)
No. 1066582
>>1066541Probably another manson obsessive dumb enough to believe her bullshit, and suffering a misguided case of jealousy.
If anyone is messaging her at all. She could just be looking for attention and pity.
No. 1066810
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Another receipt from a fan that knows someone close to Lindsay. Honestly, I'm still on the fence about who's the abuser in their relationship. Obviously, he does, but I don't think it's all one-sided. There have been multiple people that have claimed she's just as bad as he is, that she helps him. It seems like she truly deserves what she gets.
No. 1067117
>>1067047Louise said Lindsay was there for something she later viewed as sexual assault. She doesn’t give any account that Lindsay was an active participant. To me that paints the picture that lindsays a
victim. She probably gets love bombed like crazy by Manson, and then is forced to literally watch him fuck other girls but is probably made to feel like “my perfect mate would be ok with this” and so she plays that role. I read her as someone who’s been abused for years, stripped of her autonomy, told she’s “the one” but then gets kicked to the curb and so obviously reacts and claws her way back in because what else can you do when you’ve been stripped of everything? Even the way she talks now, she just seems lobotomized. Like no real opinions on anything, no sense of humor, nothing really personal. It all somehow orbits around the concept of what MM’s perfect partner would be. Gothic, romantic, well-read, creative. But there’s no soul left in her and honestly I’ve only ever seen that personally in abuse
victims.
No. 1067128
>>1067047What she really did to manson is questionable since he lies a lot. We only know that she was jealous and stalked girls, but that's it. I need proofs that she was
abusive to him.
No. 1067564
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»1067515
we can only hope it happens one day.
>full face makeup, styled hair, "sexy" top
>wife-beater shirt, didn't even wash his face
nice relationship goals
No obituary for Hope Harvey so far?
No. 1067565
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»1067515
we can only hope it happens one day.
>full face makeup, styled hair, "sexy" top
>wife-beater shirt, didn't even wash his face
nice relationship goals
No obituary for Hope Harvey so far?
No. 1067799
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Too similar..
No. 1067846
>>1012472>>1067799Anon I am not defending Manson but how are their scars similar? Evan has numerous short cuts, Lindsay has two long parallel cuts.
The only thing they have in common is the placement.
No. 1068165
>>1068080That pic was not posted by Lindsay, or it's not known for sure it was her. It was supposedly posted by her mother on Twitter.
Or Lindsay leaked it to her fan account because that pic first surfaced on that Natasha's page whom Hope later accused of stealing photos from her Twitter.
No. 1068742
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>>1062169He looks like Alec Baldwin's long lost son in the last pic.
No. 1068753
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>>1068616Look how much photoshop is done.
No. 1068767
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>>1068616He’s morphed into this….
No. 1068974
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>>1068846>>1068767He looks like a blobfish. It's all in the name.
No. 1068985
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>>1068974He actually kinda does, though…
No. 1069476
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sage for no contribution
No. 1069628
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She posted this on her IG story and I have no words. Did her parents also find her boobs to be the only interesting thing about her?
No. 1069678
>>1069476Lilith Levisis also said he’s average size and refused a condom.
>>1069628If we are to believe 666fearless receipts her mother basically pimped her out to Manson.
She’s quite arrogant for someone who has to buys followers and has no career.
No. 1069787
>>1069628It's so funny her mom was proud of that photoset. That photoset was done for an interview in which Manson said he hadn't found a nice girl yet and was still looking for her.
Her mom couldn't read? Or just behaved like a toddler - liked books for pictures in them?
No. 1069882
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>>1069787The photo shoot with Lindsay was for S magazine published September 20, 2016 and Manson gave an interview with Dazed magazine the same month saying he wants a nice girl. Also, this gem about killing his date.
https://www.bramptonguardian.com/whatson-story/6877210-marilyn-manson-wants-a-nice-girl/ No. 1070865
>>1070795I just checked and there’s no mention of Hope’s death
anywhere. Not a single family member set up a memorial site for her? Strange considering Covid and you’d think people would want to leave condolences.
No. 1070926
>>1069533>>1068974Lmfao
>>1070865Everyone that dies has a public record. If there is no obituary, something sketchy is going on, and that means they’re lying about her death.
No. 1071115
>>1071102I didn’t see anything on there about their mother. And it looks like their
business is more of a hobby rather than a business. Two sisters who both married rich rockstars
No. 1071132
>>1069628>(lindsay selfposting)Dear farmhands, I don't mean to argue with you but it's officially confirmed that Lindsay posts here?
Cause anon got banned for nothing unless they
are Lindsay.
No. 1071160
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>>1071115This is the only reference I can find. I do think it’s far fetched they’re faking her death but it is a bit strange there’s no obituary. It’s just too common in the US, Manson’s parents both have theirs up, and Covid making funerals too risky for many people. Who knows.
>>1071132Yeah, either admins are arbitrarily banning because there’s already
ton of Lindsay caps or that’s her.
No. 1071312
>>1071219I would much more easily believe that if someone was posting in her trashing her, it would be manson. That sounds EXACTLY like something he would enjoy doing, including LARPing as a psycho fan or something. Farmhands should take a close look at IPs. According to various trashy celebrity info harvesting sites he lives somewhere on Blair Drive.
I have no idea how mods could know it was lindsay though, unless that weird photo of her nude from the waist up that no one seems to known the origin of is the same IP.
No. 1071335
>>1071312IP addresses can't be traced back to names because most of them are loaned out, and they can change based on location. One day it could be Lindsay's, the next it could belong to someone else. The mods don't have any discernible way to know when she's posting.
And that photo was from a shoot she did with Ellen Von Unwerth for a short film she and Manson appeared in – “The Nasty 8.” It's up on YouTube. I think they played the part of criminals or something? Fitting.
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Gardening, Animal Crossing, tv shows, cats. That's how she spends her time. Even before Covid.
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>>1071600Based on other
victims statements, I doubt Manson allows Lindsay to have much of a life outside him. Dita said he wanted her to give up her career. Every aspect of Evan’s life was controlled. Downloaded spyware
on her devices. He locked numerous women in the “bad girl room.”
>>1071597>>1071432Remember this from thread 3? Tinfoil but I think that was really him. It’s just so bizarre for some random fan to drop.
No. 1072033
>>1071956I mean, it’s pointless to argue over something neither of us know for sure, but Lindsay most likely dropped an unflattering titty pic to also derail. Shrug. I just don’t put anything past them when Manson has gone to great lengths to silence
victims.
No. 1072102
>>1071638Exactly. Lindsay doesn’t have any control over him, that’s why I don’t believe the rumors about her blackmailing him. Especially like anon said, he goes to great lengths to silence
victims.
No. 1072145
>>1072102I don’t believe the blackmail story either, I think it’s something he tells his side chicks to make himself look like a
victim. Pretty classic narcissist move.
No. 1072286
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>>1071639Yes, ppl have talked about it in the other threads and said he goes under this account LARPing as a fan. Which Lindsay is strangely following….
No. 1072600
>>1072474>She could've just followed them to fuck with us.She follows everybody who kisses her/Manson's ass. There's no need to make a big deal out of it.
>>1072482Could you explain for anons with poor thinking skills, e.g. me?
>>1071368Thank you admin for clearing it up for us!
Wouldn't be surprised though if Lindsay/Manson posted the boobs pic.
No. 1072948
>>1072474He could still solicit girls on that account, no? I’ve been following that account since it was mentioned on here.
I saw a post about him (or whoever) saying Lindsay followed them. I thought it was odd because snobs on here were saying about how she follows all his “fakes”. So when anons were just discussing about how he LARPs as a fan it made me think of that account, so I looked again to see if she was still following it.
No. 1072965
>>1071160It seems far-fetched they would be faking their mother’s death, not sure why they would do that, but that would be truly sick. But Lindsay sure posts on social media a lot like nothing happened for someone who just lost a parent. Who does that?
And why doesn’t her sister have a check mark and thousands of followers? Lindsay is so pathetic and fake.
No. 1073102
>>1073088The only reason she has that check mark is because she got married to Manson - that’s it. Otherwise, she wouldn’t have one.
Why did she even come back on social media at the beginning of this year anyway? She could’ve stayed private like she was apparently doing.
No. 1073240
>>1073150> The only reason she has that check mark is because she got married to Manson - that’s it.Nope. She had got it before they married.
She got verified shortly before they got married and wouldn’t have if she wasn’t with Manson.
>>1073177I see your point but they’ve been on and off for years and he was seeing other women in 2017/18. Why they got married now I don’t know but it’s good for Manson’s image if someone is willing to marry him and pretend to be happy.
>something else big that’s going to come out Evan, LKB, MIB, and Jessicka Addams have stated people have privately contacted them with abuse allegations of their own. It’s probably safe to assume there’s more
victims too afraid to speak out.
No. 1073381
>>1073371Lindsay even makes references, referring themselves as
criminals from a movie. She thinks it’s so
cool…we’ll see how
cool they think it is if and when it ever does come out about Manson on a large scale.
No. 1073401
>>1073371>They weren’t on and off, they’ve always been together.Can you explain this? Her break up letter was posted in the threads, it sucks that Manson made it public but it proves the letter definitely existed. Gabriella and other girls from 2015-16 confirmed she didn't live with him at that time, but I agree it doesn't mean she couldn't come to his house for one or two evenings. Sadly MIB removed the texts from their account.
Lola Blanc toured with him for a little bit. Lexus Amanda lived with him shortly?
Does her tolerating this and patiently waiting for him to get her back equal being together?
>She was on tour with him in 2017-18.It never means he was not seeing other women.
Idk why it's so important that we discuss it.
No. 1073423
>>1073401I think someone posted that he edited the letter before he read it on stage in one of the other threads. And the picture of “Lindsay” holding the letter wasn't her. Another anon mentioned their name when it was brought up, but I can't really remember what it was. Another groupie, I think. I'll try to find caps.
I don't see how he could've had so many girls over with her around if they were supposedly together. She's not even with him now. She posted in her story that she's staying in Miami. She probably doesn't live with him all the time, and when she does, she's his nurse. I wouldn't doubt that he still has other girls over. A wedding ring isn't going to change anything.
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>>1073423Screens from the first thread.
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No. 1073850
>>1073417True. But that’s only on social media. If this gets out to the mainstream public (especially Evan’s testimony) people who aren’t fans won’t care about his lame marriage and his pathetic attempt to make it seem like he’s “clean” and has this bullshit wholesome “image”. That’s where it will really count.
And I’m sure Louise (that’s if she’s actually legit) and other women who have already spoken up about him on social won’t have any issues telling their story to say.., CNN or whatever news outlet.
No. 1073859
>>1073723I’m sure his marriage is really going to help in making his image look good when it comes out that not only he’s a misogynistic
abusive degenerate, who’s sexually assaulted people —he’s also a con-artist and disgusting racist on top of it.
No. 1073920
>>1073912Yes, but those articles were in small news media outlets on the internet, it hasn’t really made an impact. It would get a lot of attention if it was some big news media outlet. IF Evan would’ve named him in her testimony, I’m sure it probably would’ve gone mainstream.
He may be irrelevant, but all these women’s stories are very relevant.
No. 1074008
>>1074004“Dawn” occasionally shows up to derail and cause chaos in the threads. Probably Manson or dandyarch to discredit
victims, imo.
No. 1074012
>>1074009>>1074002Just stop you dumb bitch. You clearly didn’t do ‘better
then that’ when he’s still walking free. I haven’t heard of any charges being filed, haven’t even heard of a call out post or some shit that blew up. So, step it up instead of trying to prove to some anonymous girls your fav singer really did diddle you, do something
No. 1074017
Seem>>1074012
>>1074012>>1074012CIA investigations usually take a couple months to thoroughly go through. And several people got calls like this.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/03/blind-items-revealed-2_9.html?m=1 No. 1074178
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Comments from the Rockstar Celibricow thread + a picture of his bathroom in case anyone's curious.
No. 1074216
>>1074178I can’t take this thread seriously tbh. Manson is a fucking perv just like most men in his position, I’ve followed a touch of what’s on the first page or if something catches my attention but it comes down to this a trainwreck of a thread that I would
love to follow but the crazy bitches here are ruining everything they’re caping for.
No. 1074265
>>1074216Thank you. It’s trash.
Easy to spot the Manson fan girls in here too, masquerading under the guise of doing it for the vict1ms, when you know they’re sore at senpai not noticing them.
No. 1074271
>>1012472>>1074216>>1074259>>1074265Could you please just ignore Dawn and stop insulting anons?
>>1074259Lindsay is not interesting on her own. Plus she's the main
victim, it doesn't matter if you feel sorry for her or not.
No. 1074383
>>1074271>Could you please just ignore Dawn and stop insulting anons?Well, I would, but since I contributed two thread pics I think I’m exempt.
Anons rehashing old shit from three threads ago, repeating the same old conspiracy theory yawn should expect a bit of ridicule.
No. 1074430
> Dawn isn’t some magical mysterious psyop, she’s a crazy schizophrenic bitch that wants everyone to believe she’s fucked Manson.I think she might be a psyop LOL. From all the terrible things I’ve heard about MM,
she has to be a crazy bitch to be fucking with him.
(Also, I’m the Russian anon so excuse my English)
> We have no idea who posts here, “Dawn” could be anyone. If I’m crazy for being suspicious, so be itNo, I don’t think you’re wrong for being suspicious, I think the same about Louise K Belle. I don’t know who she is. She could be anyone too.
>>1074259Agree. Other anons are right, she really is gold-digger trash, and even wears it proudly
>>1074178 No. 1074484
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The full text Lindsay sent him in the breakup letter he read on stage. A segment was posted in a picture above. I'm not sure if the full thing was ever shared, though.
No. 1074729
>>1074627His next tour is going to be his prison tour in 2021, lol.
>she really is gold-digger trash,I’m sure he knows she’s with him for clout & money - he’s a narcissist - he doesn’t care - he knows she probably won’t leave, & he’ll still get to sleep around. It’s the sad life of the rich and narcissist.
I’m betting though it definitely won’t last. It’ll be fun to watch when it goes shit.
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>>1073949>I'd almost compare his fanbase to a cult.As an ex fan I completely agree with this. There’s like this hive mind that you have to worship everything Manson shits out or you’re not a “real fan”. I know many fanbases can be
toxic but his goes next level and bully anyone with an opposing view. If you even bring up the abuse allegations on Reddit you’re downvoted and harassed. The MM cult on FB is even worse, your post/comment is deleted. It’s like they’ve become an extension of Manson’s narcissist army and can’t handle an honest discussion.
Here’s an example, a fan is posting fake DM’s from @mansonisabusive to harass her and many of his fans are believing this shit. They go to extremes to silence
victims.
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She now changed her name to Lindsay Elizabeth Warner. And Manson (uh soz, I mean Lindsay) reposted it from a shitty fan account.
They sure want the media to post about their marriage instead of all the allegations. Kek
No. 1074826
>>1074814Why wouldn’t he (or she) repost her account directly? I know we talk a lot of shit about Lindsay but real question. What kind of metal illness does she have to be like,
”No big, my husband is a serial rapist and tortures women. I’m so proud to be his wife!” I don’t understand her.
No. 1074830
>>1074754That account harasses anyone that says anything even remotely related to him being an abuser, including myself after I had a very brief interaction with them. Since then, I've had a few other fans message me to argue. Some of them that I've spoken to are really level-headed and can accept that he might be guilty (mostly because they've been abused themselves), but the majority are assholes if you don't hang on to his every word.
I think reading the thread and finding out about everything he's done was really what broke my fixation on him, but even then it took a while for me to let it sink in and accept it. If people that don't even know him personally can be that obsessed and drawn in, I can't imagine what it's like for the girls he love-bombs.
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>>1074754Well caught. I didn’t see this account until you pointed it out.
I was the anon who said conspiracy theorists are fair game for a bit of ridicule, but I gotta say, my tinfoil gland is definitely itching with this one.
Lindsay perhaps?
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>>1074896Hiding in plain sight?
I mean, why would she even follow this account yet perpetuate this wholesome image on her own account? It’s so murky.
No. 1075406
>>1074754Anyone who is going to go against Manson and speak out about him has to expect they will get lash back. His fans probably figure because he hasn’t actually been convicted of anything, the allegations must not be true.
I agree tho, faking DMs to make a person look bad & not legit is some next level shit. But something tells me that osbourneoatmeal account isn’t really a “fan”.
No. 1075441
>>1075406If you wanna talk about some next level shit - at least mansonisabusive hasn’t had a shady search warrant put out on her ass for speaking out on him, lol.
>>1074814The media don’t give no shit about their dumb marriage lol… but they will about his allegations and all the
victims’ stories get out.
No. 1075454
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Got bored and did some searching on California online public records and Cete was apparently called Fawn Baby LLC for years until they legally rebranded it. Both of them are so weirdly emotionally arrested. Y’all are grown ass women in your 30s.
Also I could not find any paperwork with Ashley’s name or signature anywhere on it, just James. Bruh why. Even you don’t understand LLC formation (a moron level task tbh) you should have legal rights to your own company.
Blacked out where their home address is although if you know how to use public records search I guess you can find it, just feel weird blasting it out here knowing the kind of weirdos Manson gossip sites attract.
No. 1075489
>>1075406Unfortunately, one of Manson’s
victims is no longer here. She’s the one who sent DMs to @mansonisabusive. And sadly, she had another horrifying encounter with another evil piece of shit monster.
I pray and hope someone gets justice on Manson for all these
victims.
No. 1075718
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Lindsay's still talking to fan accounts. I don't know why she doesn't just take care of it herself. Asking fans to post about Madelyn just makes her look pathetic. The way she acts about it makes me think that she actually had a fling with Manson. Lindsay doesn't single out any other hate accounts except for hers.
No. 1075723
>>1075454Its a business, why wouldnt they be "emotionally arrested" about its success. I understand hating Lindsay but her sister owns the business as well and it seems like a decent idea: clothing that isnt fast fashion or wasteful and unique in appearance. I've scrolled through their Instagram a few months ago and the aesthetic relatively interesting, totally different than the havent showered in 3 months, greasy hair, black lipstick and tattoos kind of marilyn Manson style his female fans have. It looks like if you purchased a dress from there it would show up smelling like flowers which is probably beneficial for some of his dirty looking female fans.
Look at madelyn and lilith and some of the other women he's been with, you can smell them through the camera.
No. 1075765
>>1075718Lindsay harassed other women in his life so I guess it evens out?
>>1075723To each their own, Cete is frumpy to me but everyone has their opinions. Manson’s stated in several interviews that he doesn’t like to bathe and apparently he likes that in his women too.
No. 1075833
>>1075806From what I've gathered from watching Madelyn when she had her account public, I think she's just a groupie. I've seen her lust over other bands and I havent seen anything Manson related in a long time. I think they had something and she moved on honestly. I don't think shes still after him in any way I think she's vengeful about Lindsay blasting her online and everyone calling her crazy so she's unleashing it on Lindsay privately probably on fake accounts.
Other than posting about Trump I don't know how she makes her money or what she does for a living. She's definitely not in LA anymore but she's not posting from her exact location.
I honestly think she thinks Democrats are the reason she failed as a video girl/groupie/rockstar wife wannabe in LA and now she had to move home where she has less access to someone to leech off of other than her parents.
A very hateful angry woman imo. I think her own self hatred about being broke herself and living at home, on top of her living in a red state is probably fueling her political stupidity because she's back in her white trash lifestyle. Little does she know that Manson literally sings against people like her. He's a rapist, racist douche but he was publically advanced even in the 90s. No one can doubt that…
She has issues
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LMAO
>>1075718The dude that runs this account is as obsessed or possibly even MORE obsessed with MM than our silly Madelyn.
No. 1075963
>>1075833She doesn't earn her own money, anon. She lies about where she lives. She buys cheap vintage shit and tries to sell it for double the price or more on depop. She's probably getting money from her parents for her cats that she only got coz Manson owns two devon rex cats as well LOL
But right now she's obsessing over orange twat Trump. She'll be back to posting egon shiele paintings with captions like 'Muh monstah. Witches never win. She can't steal you away from ME' KEK
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>>1075723Are you seriously suggesting that Cete farts flowers that his fans could benefit from? Lindsay?? Who else would defend her company like that, a relatively unknown startup. Obviously Lindsay hates Madelyn.
I’m not convinced Manson can make it to the shower or knows what clean is.
No. 1076225
>>1075718Why is she still going under fake accounts about Lindsay?
How well did Madelyn even really know Manson? Wasn’t she the one who was so adamant going around telling everyone he wasn’t engaged to Lindsay and that he would never marry her, when Miss Danger was saying they were engaged last year?
That’s a good question why Lindsay is going to fans instead of confronting Manson about why he’s still communicating Madelyn. Because why else would Madelyn continue doing this with her accounts? Someone tell this disgusting bitch to get a life. He is MARRIED.
No. 1076230
>>1075833>Manson literally sings against people like her. He's a rapist, racist doucheTake a look at what Manson is… that should tell you something… he is a liberal, far-left dipshit.
And it’s his kind that’s everything that’s wrong with this world.
No. 1076336
>>1076332Because it used to be a baby
/kids clothing company. When she started making adult clothing she changed the name. This is a weird addition to the Manson is
abusive thread.
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>>1075890I tried to look for these comments, but this is all I could find. It’s pretty obvious that dalmation2020 account is Madelyn.
Yeah ok, Madelyn that’s how he really “feels”, yet he married her when you said he never would… You are seriously stupid and need to fuck off a married man.
>Look at madelyn and lilith and some of the other women he's been with, you can smell them through the camera.I’m laughing so hard at these comments. These hoes have nasty crotch rot. No wonder he caught stds.
No. 1076374
>>1076355Maybe, but those comments are 5 weeks old. Why the mention yesterday to report her? I looked around IG and can’t find anything recent unless they’ve been deleted.
I’m sure a wedding ring isn’t going to stop Manson from sleeping around, it didn’t with Dita. If he’s still taking to Madelyn, which I have no idea is true, that’s on him too.
>>1076336We can discuss anything related to Manson, not just his abuse.
>>1076230Don’t even start that shit.
No. 1076409
My interpretation, obviously I can be wrong.
Madelyn’s still harassing Lindsay either because she’s psycho or Manson’s still talking to her. Or both.
Lindsay bitched to fan accounts to report her.
>>1075718Madelyn probably posted this to harass Lindsay.
>>1075454Lindsay responds.
>>1075723Tinfoil because it’s an anonymous board.
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I don't see how Manson could honestly be attracted to this racist, xenophobic cunt. She's a perfect example of everything he's been against since the 90s. I doubt she was anything more than a quick fuck, if even that.
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In the UK there is a magazine called Metal Hammer which often features Manson. I received my copy today and was surprised to see they printed an article which included the questioning of him perhaps being abusive. I hope this picture is readable ….
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No. 1077126
>>1077089>>1077090>>1077095God save you anon, the journalists who decided to ask these questions, the editors who decided to print the magazine and the magazine itself.
The lamest excuses ever. Typical shit his crazy teen fans respond with online.
No. 1077167
>>1077089>>1077090Thank you anon!
How can it be rumors when women have directly named him? Manson refusing to comment and the mental gymnastics his PR uses says volumes.
I remember back in 2018 when the Lexa Vonn accusations hit she posted that Manson threatened Perez Hilton (a gossip columnist) if he covered her abuse story. Unfortunately I didn’t think to take a SS but Hilton liked her post and it’s now deleted. It made me wonder how many journalists Manson threatens if they cover his abuse.
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>>1077182
Dita's ring compared to L's. Really says a lot.
No. 1077275
>>1077090
>hysterically hangs up>pathetic lies about the line cut off>not hide behind gossipKEKSIMUS MAXIMUS
This made me leave RO mode.
>an artist with a 30 plus year careeroh my! too bad the second half of it was pure shit.
>>1074636I have nothing to do with
>>1074430Apparently there is more than one Russian speaking anon. And nope, I don't talk to her about Manson or Lindsay any longer.
>>1074897>>1074896>>1074919I don't want to address every post that says Lindsay is behind some bat shit crazy accounts, I will just put my ideas and observations in one long (sorry mods) post.
Neither Manson nor Lindsay (NB! Cases when she was jealous were not taken into consideration, it's different) ever tried to do anything with their own hands. It's their typical manipulation strategy, almost in each shady story there is a third person. Let me show you what I mean:
1) a girl in 90s said something about Manson that he did not like (caps somewhere ITT) and she got harassed by his fans:
Manson => (his fans) => that girl
2) Around the THEoL era a journalist wrote not complimentary about Manson's album, Manson threatened his army of fans would come after him (should be ITT too):
Manson => (his fans) => that journalist
3) Got in a fight with Scott when Scott asked if they could perform together after many years and Manson said no
via his managers btw. Scott complained about it on Instagram. What does Manson do? Posts stupid jokes using Lindsay's Twitter:
Manson => (Lindsay\her account) => Scott
4) Jessicka Addams called him a pedo, terrible person, nazi, etc. What does Manson do? At first he sent his internet troops to harass her, only later when JD posted threats from them he sent her a private email:
Manson => (his fans) => JD and only later Manson => JD
5) I don't know if anybody remember and unfortunately I don't have ss but trust me there were rumors Manson asked Titti (a big crazy fan slash friend) to create accounts insulting Courtlyn Cannon after messages of her talking about him got published. Sooooo what did Manson do?
Manson => (Titti aka user-friendly disposable friend) => Courtlyn
5) Stalkers and haters were creating countless accounts not letting him hook up as easy as he had used to. What did Manson do? Hired a lawyer? Asked his legal team or management to do something? NOPE. He used a disposable friend.
Manson => 666fearless => stalkers and haters
6) Years later fearless became
problematic. What does Manson do with her? Given that fearless posts private information such as his messages to her and messages to him from Lindsay? SENDS A CRAZY FAN SLASH FRIEND Marcy, Darcy or what was her name:
Manson => (crazy fanatic friend Marcy) => fearless; basically gave fearless her own medicine kek
also now (btw did anybody notice how everybody from MM crew unfollowed Dan Cleary asap when anon posted him here but nobody unfollowed Judd. Says a lot!):
Manson => (Judd) => fearless
7) Stupid journalist dares ask a rock star with a 30 plus year career about the rumors. What does the rock icon do?
Manson => (stupid telephone line, Internet connection, retrograde Mercury, etc) => that journalist
When it is not you who do the action then you never need to take responsibility and to be held accountable. You can blame that third person that they misunderstood you, abused your trust or just gaslight and say it never happened. It's like he did with LKB: "I was not rude with you. It was my PA, so sorry" and then "Sorry never happened". Had his team been involved in any of the above, there would have been
official evidence that Marilyn Manson has been part of some shady shit. But nope, he never sent his legal team. We can't be sure that the letter Jessicka posted was legit bc it was not official. We do believe it was but in reality it will be hard to prove that in court for example.
To think about it, LKB is the only known
victim who did receive legal threats from his team. And who knows in what form, it could be just a text message from him without any stamps or official letters involved.
to be continued kek
No. 1077285
>>1077275Lindsay is the same. She follows the same strategies which Manson invented and probably even used on her. Just use a third person.
Let's see.
When Lindsay got back to the public eye two years ago the majority of fans didn't mind her except for one little thing: many of them remembered the letter in which she wished his show failed and called him a drunkard. The very negative shit which many fans remembers, there is solid that the letter did exist because there are photos of MM reading it at the gig. So what happens?
1)Lindsay talks to a fan account, feeding them with a stupid kinda insight information and manipulates them into posting a very ridiculous debunk post. Basically what did Lindsay do? You are right!
Lindsay => (naive silly fan) => the fanbase
Does she repost the publication? Nope. Because this is how she would have made it official. Just put a like, if anybody asks her about it I bet she'd say she likes everything under her hashtag, it didn't mean anything. But a like is enough for a silly schoolgirl who runs that fan account.
2) Manson fans didn't like Lindsay from the beginning. There are many reasons why, I won't repeat what was posted ITT to save space. What did she do? She tried to use Titti to make connection with the fanbase. Too bad she didn't know Titti was a crazy bitch herself. Many of anons may not know but many M+L photos together at the beginning of their relationship was taken by Titti, because Manson (or Lindsay?) would invite her often to party together. Titti was a crazy obsessed fan but Manson endorsed her behavior. I don't remember if it was Titti or manzin, who never liked Lindsay btw, revealed that Lindsay bribed some big in the fanbase fans with backstage passes. Even when she got pissed bc of Manson fans she sent a message to Titti to make her settle the shit. I should stay honest and say that when Lindsay lost Titti as her supporter she posted addressing (really poorly) the issues a few times from her personal account. The results were tragic kek.
Lindsay => Titti => fans
3) Lindsay wants to prove she is with Manson so hard that she send backstage videos to her mother so that she posts the videos in her story.
Lindsay => (her own mother) => fans
4) Lindsay doesn't like Madelyn. She thinks Madelyn spreads false information about her. So is it the right time to use your legal team? NOPE. Just talk to fan accounts, ask them to go after Madelyn even when Lindsay's "haters" can't stand Madelyn and don't believe a word she says.
5) MIB is being naughty, that terrible person posts disgusting false information about you and your beloved abuser. So what do we do? Right! Instruct fans to come after MIB.
Lindsay => (fans) => MIB
6) Lindsay craves attention but nobody notices that she is the Warner now? What do we do? Grow up and start living your goddamn life outside of your abuser's world? Hell no! Just train try silly fans to track any changes in your profile, give them a like and a repost from your abuser's account in return.
I am surprised she didn't ask fans to go harass ERW or we just don't know about it yet.
Now I want to go so far that I'll assume there might be a list of trustworthy aka trained fan accounts whom she asks "for help" aka manipulates when there is a need. The reasons I think so are:
1) We know from her BD that it is not Manson who reposts fan accounts in story. Read the thread why, my fingers are already hurting.
2) It is always the same accounts. Many people tag him and add his hashtag but we see the same damn accounts over and over again. They don't choose what to repost by random. There must be a list of accounts. I think you can actually track down who bothered MIB if you watch his story.
Why do fans fall for that? (1) they are stupid or just edgy kids (2) they are pathetic adults who have no life and put "Manson liked x132 times, Lindsay liked x100500 times, Manson reposted x123…" you got what I mean. Being liked by Manson and reposted by him = gratification points she promises them. If they cared for Lindsay, they'd love to be reposted by her. But she never reposts them, they don't appreciate her attention
outside manson framework. They just don't care.
And this is the one thing that poorly educated Lindsay cannot understand - she is manipulating HIS fans, not HERS. Many names I see now kissing her ass used to hate on her. They'll just turn their back should Manson give a sign.
Lindsay is the same. She follows the same strategies which Manson invented and probably even used on her. Just use a third person.
Let's see.
When Lindsay got back to the public eye two years ago the majority of fans didn't mind her except for one little thing: many of them remembered the letter in which she wished his show failed and called him a drunkard. The very negative shit which many fans remembers, there is solid that the letter did happen because there are photos of MM reading it at the gig. So what happens?
1)Lindsay talks to a fan account, feeding them with a stupid kinda insight information and manipulates them into posting a very ridiculous debunk post. Basically what did Lindsay do? You are right!
Lindsay => (naive silly fan) => the fanbase
Does she repost the publication? Nope. Because this is how she would have made it official. Just put a like, if anybody asks her about it I bet she'd say she likes everything under her hashtag, it didn't mean anything. But a like is enough for a silly schoolgirl who runs that fan account.
2) Manson fans didn't like Lindsay from the beginning. There are many reasons why, I won't repeat what was posted ITT to save space. What did she do? She tried to use Titti to make connection with the fanbase. Too bad she didn't know Titti was a crazy bitch herself. Many of anons may not know but many M+L photos together at the beginning of their relationship was taken by Titti, because Manson (or Lindsay?) would invite her often. Titti was a crazy obsessed fan but Manson endorsed her behavior. I don't remember if it was Titti or manzin, who never liked Lindsay btw, revealed that Lindsay bribed some big in the fanbase fans with backstage passes. Even when she got pissed bc of Manson fans she sent a message to Titti to make her settle the shit. I should stay honest and say that when Lindsay lost Titti as her supporter she posted addressing (really poorly) the issues a few times from her personal account. The results were tragic kek.
Lindsay => Titti => fans
3) Lindsay wants to prove she is with Manson so hard that she send backstage videos to her mother so that she posts the videos in her story.
Lindsay => (her own mother) => fans
4) Lindsay doesn't like Madelyn. She thinks Madelyn spreads false information about her. So is it the right time to use your legal team? NOPE. Just talk to fan accounts, ask them to go after Madelyn even when Lindsay's "haters" can't stand Madelyn and don't believe a word she says.
5) MIB is being naughty, that terrible person posts disgusting false information about you and your beloved abuser. So what do we do? Right! Instruct fans to come after MIB.
Lindsay => (fans) => MIB
6) Lindsay craves attention but nobody notices that she is the Warner now? What do we do? Grow up and start living your goddamn life outside of your abuser's world? Hell no! Just train try silly fans to track any changes in your profile, give them a like and a repost from your abuser's account in return.
I am surprised she didn't ask fans to go harass ERW or we just don't know about it yet.
Now I want to go so far that I'll assume there might be a list of trustworthy aka trained fan accounts whom she asks "for help" aka manipulates when there is a need. The reasons I think so are:
1) We know from her BD that it is not Manson who reposts fan accounts in story. Read the thread why, my fingers are already hurting.
2) It is always the same accounts. Many people tag him and add his hashtag but we see the same damn accounts over and over again. They don't choose what to repost by random. There must be a list of accounts. I think you can actually track down who bothered MIB if you watch his story.
Why do fans fall for that? (1) they are stupid or just edgy kids (2) they are pathetic adults who have no life and put "Manson liked x132 times, Lindsay liked x100500 times, Manson reposted x123…" you got what I mean. Being liked by Manson and reposted by him = gratification points she promises them. If they cared for Lindsay, they'd love to be reposted by her. But she never reposts them, they don't appreciate her attention outside manson framework. They just don't care.
And this is the one thing that poorly educated Lindsay cannot understand - she is manipulating HIS fans, not HERS. Many names I see now kissing her ass used to hate on her. They'll just turn their back should Manson give a sign.
And you know what? I think I know one more reason why Lindsay launched a crackdown on Madelyn and MIB.
After the years there is not a sign of the bs that was posted about Lindsay many years ago. Madelyn is one dark spot in the perfect picture of relationship which Lindsay tries so hard to paint.
MIB is a huge dark spot not only on that painting but also on MM career.
We all know it takes some time to prepare an interview and to print it. What if the telephone call occurred before Lindsay asked fans to harass MIB? Like anon said, their questions are basically from MIB account. That could
trigger Manson and Lindsay. MIB is a pain in the neck because she is a real person, I hope so kek, and not just a gossip forum.
Sorry for many words and mistakes I cannot see now, I hope my posts are readable.
No. 1077371
>>1076802Madelyn is pig vomit. This has to be the most uneducated dumbest shit I’ve read. There is nothing beautiful about our “system”.
Manson really has relations with this fucking
far-right numbnut?
Manson doesn’t stand for nothing - he’s a con-artist, and his words and what he
claimed to stand for is fraudulent. And that’s transparent by who and what he associates himself with.
It also would make sense if he’s a pig shit racist that he would have relations with another pig shit racist.
He probably also secretly wants to suck Donald Trump’s dick.
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>>1077371>It also would make sense if he’s a pig shit racist that he would have relations with another pig shit racist.Word. Racist piece of shit.
>>1073723https://www.eonline.com/news/55826/marilyn-manson-accused-of-bilking-the-band No. 1077421
>>1077090Take note: Not having a response to allegations is a response - and speaks volumes.
Usually a person who knows they are guilty will have no response.
A person who is accused of something that they’re not guilty of, will have some sort of response/reaction to allegations.
>It's possible to interpret lyrics on the song Perfume on his new album as being about 'victim culture' - the song seems to suggest that some victims relish their victimhood and do it for fame ("So you wear your damage on your sleeve… Cause victim is so chic/You're as famous as your pain") - is that how he feels?
>The song could even be considered threatening to someone who is claiming victimhood: 'In your hair there will be brains.'Funny how touchy and defensive the PR got when asked about this song, and they won’t give any comment regarding any specific songs.
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>>1077372She's been doing that shit since the beginning of their relationship, except she didn't dye her hair until late 2010-ish, a few months after this picture was taken. She met him in New York in 2009 (or that's what she said in her story) – which was basically her also admitting to cheating on Evan with him. Before she met him, she had more of a boho style and didn't look like his type at all. Even her body-type didn't suit what he usually goes for. Now she looks like a dollar-store version of Dita. I'd be embarrassed to be seen in public with Lindsay if I were Manson, too. She doesn't even look pretty in her own Photoshopped pictures, even after having that eyelid-lift. I don't see how he could go from someone like Dita or Rose or all of these successful women he had flings with to someone like her.
No. 1077746
>>1077542Don't get me wrong but could you please stop with Madelyn? You are probably that one lonely anon who gets banned regularly for detailing. Madelyn is not the subject, it doesn't matter how milky she is.
>>1077515I know right? I have read the threads.
You guys repeat yourselves even when we have a lot of milk about Manson thanks to the amazing anon and MIB.
Speaking of which… Can anyone bring more scans of the interview from MIB? I cannot upload because I keep getting 403 page.
No. 1077875
>>1077532That pic is from 2013. In 2009 and 2010 Lindsay had black hair, then she dyed it red, probably to please him since Evan had red-ish hair during parts of their relationship.
Lindsay also lost a huge amount of weight in 2012. In 2018, I think, after she took a break from Manson, she looked a lot healthier again. In the last two years you could watch her lose more and more weight. She's just a skeleton now.
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>>1077875@mansonisabusive made a post about it. But I'm still not sure if she did it because he wanted her to or if she did it on her own. Evan's physical appearance changes every time she's in a new relationship. It's like she copies the other person. Maybe she does the same. Either way, I don't sympathize with her. She had multiple chances to leave, but instead she decided to marry him and do the same thing he does. She's getting what she deserves.
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@elliejayden is working on a third video.
No. 1078003
>>1077991Idk how to explain.
The way she presents the information is kinda dull.
The last video I watched was too long, coming up to 40 minutes. In the video she talked about so much and yet delivered nothing, because she mixed in too many things.
Her videos would have been better with better editing, less minutes and one or two case centered. She wants to talk about Evan, then she switches to Esmé and in two minutes puts in a story Lindsay posted. It's very unstructured, poorly scripted and chaotic. People might fail to remember
victim's name even before she moves one to the next one.
She should have started off presenting one case after another (no more than 3 cases in one video) highlighting but not mixing or overlapping the similarities. Good for us and anybody who does research on him is that he is a textbook abuser. It's very easy to do Firstly, Secondly, Thirdly and Finally about him.
40 minutes of poorly structured information is too much. I can only watch a 40 minute investigative documentary if I am really interested and even I had to start watching her videos twice so chaotic and slow she was in her narration. What about other people who aren't interested in Manson? I thought these videos are made to attract as many people as possible but nobody is gonna sit through 40 minutes like that.
No. 1078119
>>1078066I think it's called narcissistic injury, which is followed by narcissistic rage.
It would make sense because narcissistic rage can lead to murder and he almost killed Evan. Sounds exaggerated, I know, but she did try to kill herself after he broke her.
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This is random and possibly pointless but I was going through old caps and found this one from bloodandh0ney.
>>958571I don’t understand where this came from so out of curiosity I googled “bloodandh0ney” and only two hits come up. One from Manson Source on Twitter who reposted a video from that account and a fan on Provider Module who wrote, “Bloodandh0ney struck as odd to me at the time but I dismissed it. But (believe me) I do remember a caption talking about how Blood And Honey will be the title of the next album.” and tried unsuccessfully to find more info on that account.
Who has Manson talking to in that DM?
https://twitter.com/MansonSource/status/739835155561517056?s=20http://www.providermodule.com/forum/showthread.php/8808-HEAVEN-UPSIDE-DOWN-Fan-Reviews-Discussion/page12 No. 1078877
>>1012472>>1078665It must be to Jordan.
His messages to Gabriella had different colors.
It's a good idea to see if there's anything interesting in web archives. Does anybody know more account names of the stalkers?
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It seems the bots are back, I don’t see many legit new followers.
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>>1077421This is true. Most innocent people react with anger and rage at being unjustly accused. I was a cop. I saw it a lot. Criminals know this and can respond the same way, but they can’t mimic certain emotional signs.
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>>1079240samefagging
Dear ladies and ladies, in the left picture you can see a fruit of one year of hard work of two grown up women in their mid-thirties. Somehow these two women “spent weeks scouring fabric warehouses” during pandemic and the supposed to be self-isolation period.
This dress (in three colors, okay) is the only new item in the shop.
Of course Lindsay never worked, nobody would hire her, her productivity is amusing.
The dress doesn't compliment Lindsay in promo pics and the price is shocking.
>>1079243I wish Pogo came out with all the dirt he has on MM.
No. 1079359
>>1079249She’s
really milking her mother’s death to peddle dresses. Yikes. The majority of her followers that aren’t bots are Manson fans, does she think they’ll pay $310 for that shit.
I personally wouldn’t support a business that directly or indirectly profits Manson, abusers don’t get my money.
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Even Loudwire tried to contact Manson in April but obviously they didn't receive any response.
https://loudwire.com/marilyn-manson-refuses-comment-evan-rachael-wood/ No. 1080280
>>1080144I disagree, there’s been a lot more coverage of his abuse recently.
I do wish Evan would just name him and put the doubts to rest, but he abused several women, and will most likely continue to do so, if Evan names him or not.
No. 1080316
>>1080280I disagree too. He may not be relevant in the mainstream….but he’s still a man that has power, and the media will want to cover it.
She never said she won’t ever name him, she just wants to do it when it feels right. I think it’s in this interview where she said it.
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>>1080493It was posted three hours ago, where did you find the comment from @jen.7407 from 5 days ago? I only see this one.
Lindsay needs real friends, pathetic.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHeC6IplN_B/?igshid=nmyavi6cxo20 No. 1080604
>>1080493I can’t find the comments from oatmealosbourne either, unless they deleted them. That’s the account harassing Mansonisabusive. Obviously they want those photos released to promote their happy couple propaganda.
>>1080552If Lindsay pulled that she would look like a massive piece of shit and Evan could sue.
No. 1080695
>>1080335I think her fears are
valid. But he’s under public scrutiny now, so it would be stupid for him to do anything to get back at her.
>>1080493I don’t thinks it’s a real fan, because I can’t fathom that someone would actually run a cringey fan page about her.
All these accounts look so calculated and fake. Like it’s either a team of people hired to make these fan pages about her, or she’s behind some of them herself. Hence, how they’re getting these
new pictures to post.
>>1080678That’s what I thought. Why are they being leaked on some so-called “fan page” . But there was that one she posted in her Instagram story of them together.
>>1080655She’s had work done. This is her ugly ass before
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>>1080967Actually, Jeanette is dead and Alison married Manson’s old assistant.
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>>1080999The Slashers.
Spoilered for obvious reasons.
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>>1081019my sides, what is this schizo spergout
No. 1081058
Dear fellow anons don't yell at me but I just lost my last brain cells reading this
>>1081019And this
>lindsay posted on 2 alligation sites that she had bruises on her body and that it was MM. it ws on a private site but i think thats part of her blakmail. is kinda interesting.
>>1081019Sober up and you are welcome to back up your words with caps or anything you can use to contribute to the thread. I don't think you are a troll.
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>>1080316I hope she says his name and knows that people believe and support her. If Manson did
anything in retaliation it would only further prove he’s an
abusive asshole.
No. 1081580
>>1081496Unfortunately not enough, since he has now joined the cast of another TV series. This man will never go to jail until someone says his name and tells all his horrible secrets. And the thing that worries me the most is that he seems very calm as if he knows nothing will ever happen to him. It may be a stupid question, but the
victims of other celebrities have bravely named their abuser, what makes Manson more dangerous and untouchable than these other celebrities? And I'm not talking about Evan and Esme because they've already said their motivation, but all the other
victims. Is it possible that no one can protect them if they tell what this monster did to them?
No. 1081611
>>1081580>the victims of other celebrities have bravely named their abuser, what makes Manson more dangerous and untouchable than these other celebrities?Because Manson intimidates his
victims. Blackmail, threats, employees like dandyarch who harass and attempt to discredit
victims. Threatening journalists.
I think think his shady shit runs deeper then we realize. His fanbase is also batshit crazy and goes after
victims. He gets away with too much because people expect him to act and say crazy things and being blamed for Columbine set him up to hide behind ‘falsely accused’.
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From @mansonisabusive's story. 1/2
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Rose McGowan tells Manson not to hide behind her.
No. 1081915
>>1081852Well said. She is not his shield to fetch in desperation. It's interesting how recently he actually texted her, maybe he's making it up with other exes as a protection. It kind of works for him cause the only explanation constantly brought up beside "Evan had thousands of different men at the time" is "but Rose and Dita". I think this thing will blow up in media and the dropped phone interview will lead to something in the following days, a larger scale discussion at the very least. Isn't he promoting his album at all? No interviews, streams, Jimmy Kimmel live, stuff like that? He'll probably abandon promotion and go hiding full mode
This is so much worse than Twiggy Ramirez case, people kind of forgot/stopped caring or stopped believing it altogether cause supposedly Jessika Addams had some vendetta tactics with exes/enemies. Can't say how true it is but I've heard Twiggy supposedly changed and regrets alot of past stuff. (Not that it justifies him anyhow.) Manson… he only regrets something if it directly threatens his career & reputation. He's the frontman and basically the only one left from original lineup. This would be the end of Marilyn Manson the music band. I mean, the show will probably go on nonetheless but he might lose part of fans AND surely respect from other artists and famous people.
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>>1081915I know there is a new thread but it seems odd none of the other anons have seen his rep put out an official statement regarding ERW? That's what Rose was referring to re: don't use me as a shield, because it's mostly cherry picking nice things his celebrity exs have said about him in the past.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/marilyn-manson-team-issue-statement-over-evan-rachel-wood-controversy-metal-hammer-interview-2815031 No. 1083673
>>1081852Was just about to write how sad it is how everybody always only discards anything she says because she's "crazy" and welp, even here we have it again
>>1081909Good for her for being so smart about this, it's so weird how all celebrity women are always so quick to run to their exes help "omg he was sooo good to me, he was the best man I ever was with, he could NEVER hurt anybody" blah blah. You broke up with him, you're no longer with the current him, your experience with him 2 decades ago doesn't matter. You can support him in private but it's not your place to meddle publicly. I never witnessed that irl, normal people just stay quiet (as they should) if they're not directly involved.
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>>1083614>>1083673Please post in the new thread.
NEW THREAD:
>>1081947