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No. 626879

Containment thread for all the art salt you could imagine. And sometimes, people ask for help. Stop getting pissy about that.

Discuss the shitty art and even shittier attitude of artists

-Talk about Art Youtubers

-Ask about art supplies

-Discuss trashy art trends

-Instagram bullshit

-Art theft!

-General Art Bullshit



Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:


Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix Yoon


previous thread: >>604999

No. 626903

Yes, his updating pace is still atrociously slow. And yes, the main character was based on some girl he was simping on. 8 years of working on it and only 100 pages finished in total. He's getting over 4k a month on Patreon for this too and the panel layouts are still literally unreadable. I guess he also gave up his "male feminist" image because all his female characters look like they're posing for fashion magazines in every panel and have their asses out in shiny skin-tight pants.

No. 626915

just leaving this here lol

No. 626919

>A virtual comic shop opened to replace all the comic market events cancelled due to covid to sell independent artists' zines in a digital format
>Let's see what we have here
>They're all obnoxiously ~queer~ themed and like 1/3 of them are about the author's ~deep journey~ into discovering their ~nonbinary/trans identity~
Does anyone actually buy these? I mean I would read them just to pry on someone being a clown but why the hell would I pay for it? Why are so many self-published comics like this? Most of them don't even have previews past the cover art so you'd be paying over $10 to get 20 pages of someone explaining how they hated dresses or liked girls in a long-winded way without even knowing much about the art.

No. 626930

If they’re being produced and sold, someone is buying them. It must be mostly kids and manchildren trying to vicariously live through an artist that might or might not be what they’re telling people they are.

No. 626931

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The eye meme is problematic because it could make kids uncomfortable, guys.


No. 626937

They're digital comics anyone can self-publish as a pdf form, they don't go through any publisher QA or editors.

I can't understand a word of this person's blubbering. Could someone give me some context?

No. 626940

this person is annoyed with artists making comparison memes showing how a normal body part is drawn and its "horny/wrong" equivalent. Basically someone who hates jokes on the internet

No. 626944

First I see a ukrainian trannie vrtuber saying that everyone who works for any company is horrible and doing that for clout, now I see another ukrainian saying retarded shittery. What the fuck?

No. 626949

why does it matter that they're ukrainian tho?

No. 626953

idc if it's problematic, but I am tired of seeing it every 3 fuckin days cause some nobody artist realized they could get twitter clout from it because people forget shit the moment they see any tweet on there.

No. 626955

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What is it with these people and "protecting" children, I thought older teens liked to be edgy and make dumb jokes, and young teens and children shouldn't even be on the internet in the first place.

No. 626983

Doesn't this shit get exhausting

No. 627108

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These people could never have a healthy marriage with another person so bossing around Twitter for the sake of kids is the closest to having one.

No. 627111


Yeah but it seems like younger teens and kids are on the internet these days. It get a little redundant when these pedophile things happen in the art community like the whole Cristali thing happened but only because it just further proves why kids should not even be on the internet.

No. 627113

Zoomers' equivalent of rebelling and being edgy is moral policing and trying to outwoke each other.

No. 627118

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I don't think many of them are actually sold. A lot of zines are poorly produced given digital typesetting tools and modern home printers.

No. 627119

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No. 627121

do you even know what anon is talking about?

No. 627169

Both that tweet and the "joke" tweets they're making fun of are stupid. Drawing an eye and shading it in a specific manner is not sexual nor has anything to do with anything sexual, or with children.

No. 627282

> And sometimes, people ask for help. Stop getting pissy about that.
Oh man, can’t wait for the same anatomy/lighting question asked and for people to get pissy about it. It’s my favorite part from these forums

No. 627307

ugh… that's disappointing to find out. Zines used to be fun and a unique thing to purchase/own ever since their rebellion against magazines in the 60's refusing to publish things like women's health. instead of abusing the informal and self-published form of a zine to tell a dime a dozen story, just talk to your therapist or friends about it. Or do they think their transitioning story will blow up and they'll gain recognition for doing something that's seen as trendy?
mini blog but im tired of people thinking their transitioning is "deep" or "philosophical"

No. 627310

what tablet do you recommend? is huion worth it or should i go for wacom

No. 627334

Clearly digital art is not REAL art!

No. 627367

Kek. You are right. And they complain about "Karens" doing the same.

No. 627433

I'm pretty envious that Japanese self-publishing (doujinshi) is at least well-drawn hentai, artbooks, and stories. Meanwhile in the west, we mainly have tranny diaries and shit that looks like it was doodled in class.

No. 627445

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There are some good project in the Western scene like pic related, but it gets buried under all the crap (Sturgeon's law and all). Since the online art community is pozzed with woke shit it's impossible to avoid it, like even if a zine looks decent, it has to be ruined by stuff like "all profits will be donated to a trans charity".
I agree though, the Japanese (and Chinese) doujinshi scene blows them all out of the water, too bad most of the dedicated websites don't ship abroad.

No. 627496

I have no issues with my screenless Huion tablet. Would recommend. Has all the features of a Wacom tablet and 1/7th to 1/10th of the price of a similar sized Wacom tablet.

No. 627517

ntayrt but i'm pretty sure that was a joke

No. 627536

Ntayrt and slightly ot but people here really seem to forget how many autists we have on this site who take everything literally. I swear, on every thread someone takes the most obvious joke dead seriously and it would be funny if it wasn't just sad.

Slightly on topic though, honestly the advice is only ever about what tablet to get and what watercolor paper to purchase which is super tiring. Really hope they'd stop flocking the thread.

No. 627585

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pic related

No. 627591

On the subject of tablets apparently the Wacom cintiq 16in is discontinued? I had my eye on it as an upgrade and now it's gone. I saw reviews for it just last year, I wonder why wacom got rid of it so fast. It was the perfect inbetween their 13 and 22 ugh

No. 627642

Anyone "attending" Lightbox expo? Why do I feel like it's going to be a 3 day Zoom call?

No. 627682

Given some places are doing online school for elementary kids it's going to be impossible for kids to not be online nowadays.

No. 627688

Twitter artist sinpie_nii/Kanoiichi moved accounts because he was 'accused of being a pedo' for liking a bunch of art that featured some underaged characters.

Not that he's important, but wondering if this was even true lol

Link to post with 'proof'

No. 627707

anyone know why @ggaikingdgreat is accused of being a pedo? I keep seeing vague tweets about him but no summary

No. 627774

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discovered scrolling through my timeline on twitter from someone else liking it. anyway; artist @alisadraws tweets about charging her 11 yr son $25 (discounted from $45) for a commission by her.
people seem to be pretty pissed off in the comments, but personally i can understand why she’s charging him: accountability, learning the value of money and hard work, etc. but i can also see the side of people saying it’s unfair.

No. 627777

anon he's 11… he can't even have a job at that age and it's just a drawing from his mom. all this teaches him is that his mom sucks ass.

No. 627778

Would be nice if she took the money to get them both something to eat or something else to spend time together.

Idk it does feel unfair to charge your 11 yrs old kid for art.

No. 627779

No. 627781

What an autist. He's her 11 year old son, lmao.

No. 627804

>25 dollars
Well that's her mistake right there, kids should know the value of $5 and how you could get 2 sodas instead of 1 light meal.

No. 627836

Imagine 2020 SJWs experiencing 2012 tumblr. Fanfiction and fanart of underage anime and cartoon characters was all over the place.

No. 627866

And yet most people didn't grow up molesting children. The people who shipped Sebastian and Ciel in 2008 i know of are normal adults or at least not child abusers at this point.

No. 627869

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>tfw your own mommy is charging you for a fucking drawing
>not even talking in person, via text
That's so depressing, 25 bucks is a ton for a little kid.
All those comments calling it cute and wholesome are honestly toxic, the fact that he knows her rates, that he had to check whether she has time and also immediately knew that he will have to pay if he wants something shows that this is a frequent topic in their home, a mom shouldn't demand fair treatment or appreciation for her "talents" from her own little kid. Those art twitter/tumblrinas really shouldn't have kids if they still think in such an entitled manner. You know exactly that she's the type of person who called her parents mentally abusive for not kissing her ass. Does she charge him for lunch and helping with homework too?

No. 627870

Exactly. It was about the characters, no one was actually ever looking at real children this age, and these characters were usually never written to behave very child-like anyway. 20 year olds that shipped Naruto with Sasuke didn't do it because these characters are underage but because the story was compelling to explore this dynamic. I get that real pedophilia is a threat, but censoring everything just because real pedophilia exist is far too extreme.

No. 627872

I agree, if she wanted to teach him the value of money or whatever she could've charged him like 5$ and used that to buy them both ice cream
Also I know this is just a snippet of the conversation but their interaction is so weird

No. 627873

Imagine a world where obsessed people meticulously rake through your Twitter likes just to find problematic content. Now take that further and imagine that they make a callout post calling you a pedophile because you liked Powerpuff Girls hentai (in which the characters are aged up to look like they're in their 20s), SFW South Park ship art and a lewd drawing of a fictional 17-year old. There's 2020 Twitter for you. Our timeline ended up in a circus and we're held hostages by the clowns.
>7 reactions, 8 comments
Is this a self post?

No. 627877

They excuse her by saying that the money goes back to him the next time she buys groceries anyway. So she let an 11-year-old pay for the family's food? What is this teaching him?
They only find this wholesome because they get off to the idea of getting money thrown at themselves for ugly 5 min doodles.
Thank god my parents aren't artists kek

No. 627879

I just can't get my head around asking your kid to pay you for something. Also some of them are saying that people who think this is wrong probably also complain about commissions being to pricey. like no bitch I was just raised in a normal functioning household

No. 627880

>he was 'accused of being a pedo' for liking a bunch of art that featured some underaged characters.

But the twitter brigade won’t cancel the people liking toddler shit, talking about “sexy” little kids and drawing kids getting their stomachs punched. What a time to be alive.

No. 627887

She'll probably take the $25 and then go take him somewhere he likes to spend those $25. I feel like it's a great thing for teaching him about what you said, accountability and the rest. People really are reaching for saying this is bad lol. It's the same as when parents gave you gold stars for doing your dishes or whatever.

No. 627889

Tbf those people we’re around even back then too. Most of them were in the Homestuck fandom though and it was only a very small amount of people. Now that being woke is a trendy thing and everyone has access to the internet , that idea has gained traction of the current kids.

No. 627890

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yeah, no i get that.
and apparently he gets money from gifts and allowance or some shit?
like i said, i can understand both sides. i’m in the middle here.

No. 627891

People are overreacting as usual.

No. 627895

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Not to beat a dead horse concerning PuccaNoodles not knowing how to draw but this hand n her newest drawing is hilarious.
I'm honestly inspired that she has worked at CN, Dreamworks and WB because it means they'll just fucking hire anyone.

No. 627896

I can't believe people are defending some artist taking money from her 11-year old son to draw him a picture. No, that's fucking lame any way you look at it. I don't care if she gave him a "discount", the thought of a parent actually charging their kid any amount for a drawing is fucking mindblowing. I would absolutely never do this, should I charge them a taxi free for driving them to school or homekeeping fee for doing their laundry? That's warped as hell. Teaching kids the worth of money is like giving them pocket money for mowing the lawn or doing the dishes, not treating them like a goddamn customer.

No. 627900

Its like they callout the actually normal people because no one would care at all otherwise

actually that makes sense they usually are vendetta-chans/jealous

No. 627901

>drawing kids getting their stomachs punched
Do I want to know? This is just one artist, right?

No. 627904

outing my shame here but I mustve been lucky because I had a homestuck age gap crack ship back then and also, stridercest was RAMPANT but no one said anything that I ever witnessed

No. 627905

Unfortunately not. Ryona is very popular with lolicons for some reason.

No. 627907

seems like twitter woke kids naturally don't interact with lolicons a whole lot. like how a lot of them are fakebois who talk about supporting transwomen but haven't actually interacted with many. The callout posts are almost always for popular artists in their group, or ex-friends, friends of a friend against which they have a vendetta or desire to surpass in clout

No. 627915

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Yeah, they were easily drowned out because at the time Homestuck's fandom was giant. But there were quite a few people I'd see around that would point out how weird it was. These people were most likely not into anime either so that's probably why they also found all the sexualization of these ms paint kids with no arms so strange. It's so normalized in the anime community we don't bat an eye.
I think what also helped propel these ideas into the spotlight was with how many groomers were/are being exposed for preying on teens. People are now on high alert because it's so common to run into predators on the internet, especially in fandom/nerd-y type spaces. That's my theory anyway.

No. 627931

thats true, while I dont think ~sexualizing cartoons~ can be blamed, homestuck fandom had a massive grooming problem didnt it

No. 627982

Honestly This, the kid could spend that money on video games or snacks, but instead he wants art from his mom, and that has value to him and he values her time so he pays her for it. He doesn't have to buy art from her, he can commision other artists if he wanted. This is cute honestly, and given how many anons sperg here about art being a luxery and how people don't value art enough, it's suprising that they lose their shit over this. The kid values art,t he same way he values any other hobby, so he's willing to pay for it. This isn't the same as charging him fucking rent or food, or a taxi fare for driving him to school, those things are neccesary and need to be provided.

No. 627999

Yeah I don't see the big deal at all here? It's less about the art and more about the lesson. I'm sure if he KEPT commissioning art from his mom, that would be weird and a problem

No. 628001

So, I finally got around to watching Alphonso’s video, and I’d be lying if I didn’t admit a large portion of that video seems like it’s him laying claim to basic art concepts. Now, the layout being a 1 to 1 direct comparison is complete bullshit though. That does seem valid enough

No. 628008

Not really, this would be like a mom who is a chef charging her kid when they ask her for something different to eat like a cake or a mua charging her 12 year old for makeup for a school event.

And what is he even supposed to learn? He already knows enough to save and that he needs money for stuff, charging him for a drawing won't have any effect.

No. 628011

Y'all weird for defending it, it's his MOM for gods sake, all this time I though he's just comissioning a stranger which would maybe make sense but it's his MOTHER. Did your parents make you pay for stuff they've made for you too when you were literal babies? Even now as an adult I know my parents would never expect me to pay them money for they help and similarly me as a designer too I'd do things for them for free - which doesnt mean either of us doesn't know value of things, we just behave like normal loving family would. Which stage of capitalism is this bizarre situation??

No. 628016

I got paid for doing chores and I used that money how I pleased, and if I wanted an art piece from mom, not something that took 10 minutes, yeah I would pay her. And now as an adult I'd still pay her, because I respect her and value her time and effort. Obviously this is just to teach the kid to value work and art. Not to mention he chooses to buy art from his mom, with money he is getting from them. He isn't working an 8 hour day for his allowance or some shit, and this mom isn't Jeff Bezos, he got the money from them, and chooses to spend it on his moms art because he values it. If he didn't want to pay that, he wouldn't?

No. 628022

Tbh looking at that tweet >>627890 and the way it sounds with the "Oh, he's 11" humblebrag, it feels just as legit as all of the mothers claiming their 5 years old said some super profound thinkpiece about the state of the universe so maybe in the end there's nothing to care about here. Also I suppose a lot depends on how much allowance that kid gets. For me it would take months to save up $25 but I lived my childhood in a different times, maybe if he gets about twice as much or more monthly then I could say it's totally reasonable.

No. 628031

honestly looks like some fake shit
and idk why some of you defend this. It's fucking weird to ask from your 11(!!!) year old son money. it's fine to do it when he is older but holy shit he is just 11 and she is his mother. sounds just freaky to me.

No. 628035

>Which stage of capitalism is this bizarre situation??

No. 628053

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>Reach rebellious phase.
>Decide that he's not interested in backgrounds anymore.
>Buys $15 anime mugshots from fast food anime commission artists instead.

No. 628056

It’s well known in the LA animation scene that Marie gets studio work and even her shit art book sold at Nucleus purely because she’s good at playing the social game. She’s very cheery and ass kisses successful artists like a pro.

No. 628065

I know this isn't salt, but that kid's drawing look adorable

No. 628066

I really can't wrap my mind around how even being buddy-buddy with industry moguls would give a pass to this shit. Her art is painfully mediocre and her animation is janky as hell, she can't draw hands to save her life and her character designs are lackluster at best. Her art literally looks like female Tom Preston and her attitude seems to be just as rotten. Even that psycho son of Spongebob sucking nepotism cock at least knew how to draw a solid line. Is she just drawing inbetweens nobody ever spots?

And why are her strokes always the same weight? Is she drawing on a mouse or something? God this just makes no sense to me at all.

No. 628067

am i the only one that laughs at artists that hold raffles to win followers, then act all "omg uwu tysm for the follows!! im so grateful tysm uwu" like ur art is mediocre at most, people just want free stuff. none of those people actually likes ur content neither will they interact with you once the raffle is over

No. 628073

Looking at her work it seems like her area of expertise is storyboarding / keyframing for animation, you don't have to be an excellent illustrator to do that. That doodle sure is shitty but it's just a doodle, stuff she has on her website is on a hirable level. It's not like she had lead / senior position in any of these studios listed too, so it's really not that outrageous that she has nice looking resume.

No. 628077

My parents would've definitely done this for free for me if they were artists and I'd do it for free for my kid if I had one and was an artist, but at the same time I think this is a good way to teach the kid value of money and budgeting and what not. It's not like she's charging her kid for his dinner, it's just a drawing he doesn't need but wants.

No. 628082

It’s ok anon, you can say ZHC

No. 628110

Yeah, also it reads like he asked for a commission instead of just asking her to draw something. Maybe he wanted to be grown up and pay for it, lots of 11 year olds do that sort of thing.

No. 628145

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i am so fucking sick of kawacy's attitude and the way he seems to have a hard on for age gaps in couples, he always draws female characters like children, i swear to god there's something slimy about him. he just posted pic attached to instagram amid all the controversy he's been receiving about his sims "ship".
sage for rage

No. 628147

this was already discussed before and no one cares, go back to twitter

No. 628149

Dont most anime characters look 12?

No. 628151

Nobody cares, twitterfag. Integrate.

No. 628155

oh no

No. 628156

He is very insistent on that type of ships, i will care if he didn't have to make a long post defending himself over his pedobait oc ship, that he insite is normal.

No. 628160

This is a painfully obvious samefag, jesus. We get it, you have a vendetta for him. Now stop embarrassing yourself for the love of god.

No. 628165

not op, LavenderTown is gonna be judging some hoity toity contest from Clip Studio Paint. do you think she'll judge unfairly anon? I don't know enough about Lavender Town personally to see whether she'd be biased or unfair.

No. 628167

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>He thinks 10 is the biggest age gape that anime is okay with.
>The Asian versions of this video only have EN comments with 1 outlier.

No. 628191

idk this girl but shes listed as 22 on bnha wiki

No. 628199

She is a case of 1000 year old dragon that has a body and behavior of a 10 years old girl, but it's a 1000 year old dragon so it's okay to sexualize it, no one is a pedophile here?
Honestly that pedo plotline of her and Gentle Criminal (who is supposedly 32 but is made to look older) is the most disgusting thing that happened in BNHA so far, and that's still considering a fact that Mineta exists in that universe as well.

No. 628203

I honestly find sexualizing these characters that look young, creepier than the characters that look like they're literally 30. But like, at the end of the day who cares, minors need to either accept that fandom doesn't exist only for them.

No. 628204

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That's exactly why I posted her, that Kawacy pic has a gap of 10 at most while this one out of context is somewhere over 20.

No. 628210

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>two people on the internet can't have the same opinion, must be samefag

the age gap in kawacy's picture is actually a few hundred years, the dude is like 500

No. 628226

The guy in pic is this girls adoptive father

No. 628229


Bold of you to assume that can stop Kwacy from shipping them.

No. 628239

kawacy says he ship them so

No. 628242

>she doesn't know about the new season
anon i…

No. 628258

Kawacy is one of the many many anime coomer fans who likes moe child-looking girls paired with adult men. He's just that. Now whether these people are pedos or not is debatable. Personally I think his tastes are absolute shady trash and his art boring.

No. 628261

there's not many young anime character's that look older. i can only recall utena characters not looking 14 but 20 something thats all

No. 628278

Jojo's Bizarre Adventures comes to mind for one.

No. 628285

honestly why is it suddently creepy when a man does it? older man/young girl ships are mostly popular with women. Just look at cedfia

No. 628298

I think it's because when (straight) women do it, they are putting themselves mostly in the position of the woman, whereas men would be looking through the pov of the older male character being attracted to the younger ones. People definitly do have problems when women do it as well, although I never understood it, because in a lot of cases, that's not showing attraction to a younger person, because they are trying to live through the pov of the younger character. It's a fanatsy, and not really meant to be taken literally. Also most of these female anime children, do not look like actual children.

No. 628321

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Might i interrupt this moment for a small laugh break at raiko's terrible anatomy and the obvious traced heads/assets.

Alright continue.

No. 628331

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not even trying to hide it

No. 628335

Dude…. she couldn’t last 5 months without tracing shit

No. 628359

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Well, we can be sure she didn't trace this godawful hand.

No. 628376

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>Nawnii is still making videos on LupisVulpes
>LupisVulpes hasn't even posted anything since the last video and has probably abandoned her account already
She's dead, Jim.
Stop beating a dead horse.

Also, the a-logging is real.

No. 628383

>guy eternally stuck in his 20's
>falls in love with a mortal
Eventually, she would be the "pedo".

Wrong. She grew into an adult and they had two kids together, who will star in the sequel anime.

No. 628398

They eventually do loosen up on their anti-nsfw morals, though. I knew one artist who was an extreme prude as a 15 y/o teen and then went from 0 to 100 as a 19 y/o adult and even got called out for trying to push lewd onto other teens.

That's how I feel it will go for most of these crusaders after they get older.

Instagram and Amino are basically the new tumblrs, but both are really shitty to use. Amino is slightly better than IG for art, but it's still swamped by low quality posts. The skill ceiling is extremely low.

No. 628400

Anons what’s your favorite things to draw that aren’t as popular?

No. 628409

Well, I like to draw weird ass characters, I like to experiment with anatomy since I know shit about anatomy, so it’s fun to just add stuff, make them stick thin and add as many eyes as possible.
I like to draw OCs, they’re not relevant to anyone, but it’s something I enjoy, sometimes I try to draw my friend’s OCs and such.

No. 628412

No, eventually she would be the cougar.
And yes, that anon was right. Sesshoumaru was Rin's guardian/father figure since he revived her when she was a child.

There's no way he just left her when she was 11 then came back at 18 to dick her full of twins then leave again.

No. 628419

anons what do you perceive as an artist "cheating"? Things such as using/trancing 3D models (or photos) instead of drawing backgrounds or objects, using photoshop/csp brushes, etc?

No. 628421

No rules just tools.
Only blatantly tracing/photobashing off of other artists is off-limits to me.

No. 628422

Cheating on what? Like, art school? Or something like getting a job?

No. 628426

These seem fine, since the artist is still creating something unique while using these tools. I would only consider it cheating if they trace another artists work (including 3d artists).

No. 628427

Depends. If you have a product to make to a deadline why not use them. But I think if you want to achieve mastery and you use those things as a crutch you are only cheating yourself.

No. 628428

Those are tools for drawing, only thing I’d consider “cheating” would be copying other people’s art

No. 628484

Does anyone know if Pimikyuu and Leech.o have made new accounts? They’ve been gone for a while

No. 628491

2012-2017 era tumblr isn't safe, as it had very loose morals when comes to fictional minor x adult fanfics or fanarts. This example shows up how sensitive and pissy people can be like 2020 SJWs ruined people's joy by calling them a pedo and shit.

I guarantee an anime boy highschooler won't make a woman sexually harass a teenage boy

No. 628496

>it had very loose morals when comes to fictional minor x adult fanfics or fanarts
…Because it's not real, anon. It's fictional stories and drawings depicting fictional scenarios involving fictional characters.

No. 628499

Compare with today's fictional minor x adult content, theyre less vulgar and tame mostly. Twitterfags once gone apeshit over fictional 14 yo × 21 yo fluff kek

No. 628502

That's far too generous, try 2003-2014. I didn't see people hitting the moral panic button on ships until maybe a year before Undertale came out, then that shit EXPLODED due to people policing ships of Frisk/Chara with literally any other character.

No. 628503

*2009-2014 tumblr
my bad

No. 628505

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No. 628508

Ah yes, tumblr's golden age of without moral cops on shipping thus it was the real apeshit wild ride experience

No. 628510

this is so inaccurate

No. 628512

It's inaccurate in that the latter started around 2014. t. Tumblr user since 2012.

No. 628519

Pre-2018 tumblr had gore blogs and 12-year-olds posting nudes and tagging it as 'cp'. There's no real accounting for tastes.

No. 628522

The age gap stuff is old news, but kawacy is definitely a cow. He had a "girlfriend" in other artist OrangeSekaii up until about 2 years ago, when they suddenly stopped interacting online. People found out that he had a real girlfriend and OrangeSekaii was his public "girlfriend" just purely so that they could be a famous online artist couple in the public eye. They used to draw each other lovey dovey pictures and it all seemed very fake and way too overenthusiastic (he was even calling her his wife at a point).

About 2 years ago people noticed OrangeSekaii suddenly drawing tons of angsty pictures after unfollowing kawacy (presumably fed up with him using her as an online show girlfriend) and kawacy was suddenly drawing ~relatable~ comics about being single. That was a pretty wacky piece of drama that I wish more people talked about.

No. 628532

Orangesekaii Kawacy fiasco happened quite a long time ago lol.

She posted a story which she stated that the issue between her and Kawanocy was all fine, since he already have a partner. The next story said that Orangesekaii dislikes people who likes to toying around feelings. This might refer to Kawanocy toying her feelings by using her as a public tool to increase his popularity often saying "My wife orangesekaii" on his post desc.

And why did he make "relatable" comics about being single? Did her gf dumped her e-fuckboy cow??

No. 628537

Gladfully Orangesekaii left him, she doesn't deserve all that mess Kawacy caused to her. Jeebus, Kawa. What a cow

No. 628560

I tend to draw fanart of characters who aren't very popular or characters from shows that aren't all that relevant today in the present.

No. 628569

I remember the rise of the SJW shit becoming popular in around 2012-2013. Before that you could ship and draw whatever you wanted and you were pretty much left alone. I think 2011 was the year when social media started becoming really popular so that was the changing point which made the moral policing slowly get more and more out of hand. Compared to when in 2005 you could make the wackiest, most problematic fucking ships and people would just go "weird but okay" unless that was their NOTP. Shipping from Kuroshitsuji was just seen as something people did and nobody thought it was "omg pedo" and people drew ship art of Naruto despite the characters being 12. Nobody thought of them as "minors" because everyone still had their brain intact.

One of my personal favourite ships was between a 15-year old and a 25-year old and despite their age difference the characters were in the same mindset and perceived at the same maturity. Because these are fucking adults writing fictional characters, they're not real people behaving like real kids. I honestly want to scream until my lungs give out because of all the zoomers not realizing that one day they'll be 29 and still find that 14-year old shounen protagonist hot because cartoon characters don't age with you. I hope you all get eaten by the artist cancel monster you fed for all these years.

No. 628594

Guilty of drawing myself too. There’s nothing wrong with it, the worse that can happen is you draw yourself prettier than you are or start to draw every face to look like yours.

No. 628628

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I know that fist from anywhere!

No. 628637

Anons how can you tell that this is traced? Is it the awkward head positioning or?

No. 628646

The head is on BACKWARDS. You think like they’d learn something since everything they do in traced and we can’t go without one of these threads pointing out her tracing multiple times, but nah, can’t even be arsed to look normal

No. 628654

As long as characters are the same maturity level, it should be fine. Unless it's a wholeass grown adult thirsting over a young teen/kid.

Twotter seems to be convinced that it's only ok once both parties are >18. That's why Twotterfags love shit like Lore Olympus (despite the fact that babby Persephone is written as a 13-year-old uwu who doesn't know what sex is and Hades is written as a broody 40+ dog daddy) and will send mobs after people who ship two 17-year-olds in the same breath.

No. 628660

File: 1599912896913.png (541.65 KB, 802x588, nestyguts.png)

Please tell me I am not the only one who just can't stand this guy's art. I understand going for a creepy art style, but over all those years the style hasn't improved at all and it's just the same bullshit over and over again. This artist is just STUCK in the artstyle at this point which doesnt allow any improvement at this point. Plus might be a fakeboi, or is, I used to know him back in the day as a girl that kept talking about how big her boobs were (and make fanfictions of her and her own characters banging lol, but that was way back in 2012/2013).
The pic is the best example of how awfully disgusting the artstyle is, it's not disgusting because it's creepy, it's disgusting because it's so much shit as the same time.
insta: https://www.instagram.com/nestyguts/
other links: https://linktr.ee/nestyguts

No. 628675

You didn’t even try to change how you write kek

No. 628679

i'm that tired from this guy's art, don't mind me

No. 628683

File: 1599916910661.jpg (26.46 KB, 275x275, GHRHG.JPG)

what really gets me about the kids who sperg about this kinda thing is that they think adults shouldn't be involved in creating content for their fandoms lmao
Makes 0 fucking sense since most of the comics, anime, and games they like were all created by ADULTS. It's also adults who create the decent fanfics and most of the pretty art they like to re-post.

No. 628690

nobody knows him and his art is disgusting get over it

No. 628691

The fact you've went out of your way to post both his insta and linktree really makes me think it's a selfpost.

No. 628697

His art is horrible but i've seen worse

No. 628715

no doubt it is.

No. 628724

This is a literal nobody artist, is this a selfpost? Either way I roll my eyes every time I see this kind of a tryhard overly edgy style. It just looks like something gross a 12-year old would doodle in an effort to appear more mature and unique than every other kid drawing beautiful fairy angel goddess girls or something.

No. 628726

So when an artists does soemthing different than the typical shit he's tryhary and edgy but when he does pretty girls he's just basic. Maybe that's just his style preference. It doesn't look horrendous, and is an interesting character design, also this person is a literal nobody so who cares.

No. 628727

At least be a halfway good artist if you're gonna selfpost.

No. 628730

>writes this long-winded defensive spergout about how ITS HIS STYLE YALL!!!!!
>a-anyway who cares!!!
Yep, definitely a selfpost.

No. 628737

and it's adults who make the anime they make fandom for. who the fuck they think is writing their favorite shounen? mostly 30-50yo guys

No. 628744

using references is the best thing u can do lol def not cheating. only really skilled artists/artists that have mastered a certain thing can draw without them without making the drawing look odd

No. 628745

Does anyone have any advice for someone with aphantasia (no minds eye? Am I forced just to use references forever? I feel like a cheat.

No. 628751

File: 1599926145478.png (568.95 KB, 728x924, 2020-09-12 (2).png)

thoughts?, I had been following kaneblob for a long while now, she gets a lot of support from other artists on insta and twitter, so I never thought she would grrab other artists background ( a very popular one) for an anime's official promo https://gyazo.com/717feed4863b2fba6175375a8c25c218 https://twitter.com/ednyaroo/status/1304427566145572864

No. 628757

I spent such a long fucking time believing that referencing was "cheating" and my skills stagnated so hard and drawing became a chore. When I finally said "fuck it" and started using references, my skills improved dramatically. You absolutely can't draw everything just off the top of your head and make it look amazing, every great artist drew from life and/or used references. I hate it that it's so discouraged and seen as "cheating" due to the retarded crab bucket mentality artist circles tend to have. If I was told to draw a person doing a complex Yoga pose I'd have to look up references to remind my brain how joints and muscles actually connect together. If someone asked me to draw the Eiffel tower I'd have to look up photos to see all the fine details that make up the whole design. Expecting people to have a refined photographic memory is outrageous and detrimental to one's development.

No. 628758

File: 1599926631714.png (61.66 KB, 587x519, lol.PNG)

looks like they already admitted their fault, tho it's funny to me that just bc shes famous she had ppl defend her lmaoo
her apology doesnt seem right to me, specially knowing that she has plagiarized and HEAVILY referenced/copied previously.
probably nothing will happen to her bc shes popular and her art is cute

No. 628771

NTA kek. Not OP either, it's not bad, although it could use some refining. Also.. it is his style, you said it yourself, edgy and tryhardy? Also he's a literal nobody drawing for fun on instàgram with only like 1000k followers, why are you so pressed about it?

No. 628777

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Somebody else on the thread also dropped this there. Don’t get they would photobash anothers when they have so much skill

No. 628783

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This isn’t really a huge issue, just something that bothers me personally but I hate it when artists overuse these orange overlays. It’s as if they’re relying on filters instead of learning how to color, and it makes all their art look the same. I think it’s okay to use sometimes but not constantly.

No. 628787

Thought this shit was from not even dust like wtf. Probably a copycat.

No. 628788

It's just a color scheme though? I think it's pretty (imo) it's not like they're one of those semirealism artists who just trace over photos

No. 628796

Not really even gore art, it’s the same freaky Fred 3/4 face posted

Im straight up thinking that if you post anything remotely similar to another(especially if it’s big name, no matter if it’s generic as shit) concept you’re screwed

No. 628800

File: 1599930041856.jpg (619.61 KB, 1920x1600, 5835e160-3487-4502-bd5d-f33b06…)

Hey, so..i just lost the pen for my wacom tablet (pic related) but i really cant afford a new pen. Is there any solution for this?

No. 628808

Rei is a psycho who is paranoid about anyone copying her, but this is way too obvious.

No. 628809


If you email Wacom they might just be able to replace it (don't know their lost pen policies)

No. 628810

Ooooff. How did she think she wouldn't get caught? This isn't even overreferencing, it's straight out tracing.

Lmao yeah for once someone actually is tracing her shit.

No. 628812

buy a new tablet. don't know about this specific stylus but the pens usually cost 70 dollars so you might as well just replace the whole tablet

No. 628826

looks like an inspiration for background. michiru and shiro look great tho love it

No. 628849

The longer I look at it the more baffling it is, particularly because the focal point of the characters and the focal point of the background are very far off.

The characters are angled but the city looks so flat behind them.

I don't even know how you get like this if you have any art education at all bc boomer artists tend to do landscapes and tend to teach landscapes as one of the first few lessons they give.

No. 628856

>I don't even know how you get like this if you have any art education at all
Kane is self taught, she went to school for comp-sci iirc, not art

No. 628857

File: 1599939341429.png (1.37 MB, 750x1334, 1599928258346.png)

Amazing how much more life it has when you cool it off.

Orange lighting doesn't really make sense in some of those night scenes.

No. 628858

Amazing how dull it looks now.

>Orange lighting doesn't really make sense in some of those night scenes.

It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to look pleasing to the artist. These just look depressing now.

No. 628868

I'm sorry that I like "depressing" scenes that don't look like I'm taking rifampin.

No. 628871

they look depressing bc they are too dark

No. 628876

I agree, and that's an easy fix by just increasing the overall exposure value until it's more vivid.

No. 628878

They just don't sell very well. Basically indie comics of all kinds are read and bought by other people who make indie comics or who are in the art scene for other reasons. It's all very bubbly.

No. 628880

@0:17 I know it's like known in the industry to photobash but when did it become so blantant and like embraced?

Seeing the other artwork this artist posted reminded me of nir4z work. I wonder if she photobashes too.

No. 628883



No. 628888

samefagging bc no one agrees with u lool

No. 628890

I'm tired of stupid people fucking up simple words like "reference" and now we have to explain simple shit all over again.
Aside from deviantart and Twitter, during my art life I've never heard that referencing was cheating, just copying and tracing. I feel like some people who used to trace and copy tried getting away with it saying it was "referenced" and now some kids can't tell the difference between simple concepts.
Referencing as in looking at real life stuff(through photos or observation) is common and encouraged in art sschools since forever.
Photos: ok to look/understand/reference a pose/muscle/proportion or whatever you need.
Not ok to trace over them or reproduce them completely and claim it without citing reference. Unless: it's been posted as free stock and it's been said by owner that needs no citing or it's a stock photo you actually bought.
Other people's art: look at them for inspiration overall. If you are going to reproduce anything of their art do as study, post with credit.
How fucking hard is this?

No. 628895

Photobashing is when you use the actual information/pixels from the photos in the final image. She's painting from reference images that are a digital collage she made. Using reference like that is extremely common and tbh I'm glad people are less cagey about it these days.

No. 628896

Who's samefagging? I just saw both images and gave my opinion.
Sorry if the edit was hard work, just doesn't look as good

No. 628900

im saying u r same fagging, it looks much better with all that orange

No. 628901


No. 628921

No it doesn't it looks bland, and there have been multiple people pointing it out. The lighting may not make sense, but it's art and it literally doesn't have to make sense. The orange illuminates the scene, the blue just makes it look dull and lifeless, and depressing, Sorry you put so much hard work into that edit, but it just looks boring and dark. Moody atmosphere can be achieved in art pieces, but these specifically don't fit that tone.

No. 628929

only 2 ppl have said that the orange looks good, and i didn't make the edit. if the look dull is bc the brightness was lowered. most of the pieces look better in a more neutral/colder light. the few that do look good while being orange would still look better if the filter wasn't on 100% opacity(derailing)

No. 628934

it looks bad. I agree with the other anons. the orange makes it pop

No. 628948

File: 1599944340604.jpg (625.22 KB, 675x1000, kaneblob copy.jpg)

People will forget about this within 2 days and her friends probably won't mention her for a week or so, but everything will go back to normal soon.
As long as your art is cute and you have a loyal following, nothing will change even if you get caught up in drama.

No. 628953

The first one's a stretch, the second one I don't know the game it's from but yeah I can buy it.

No. 628958

Maybe I'm stupid since I'm just a hobbyist, but the top one I definitely don't see it. The second one, The second one, I see a bit more, but honestly not enough to really feel the need to call anyone out.

No. 628959

File: 1599944862202.jpg (159.51 KB, 500x662, OSL_Gwendolyn.jpg)

second one is Gwendolyn from Odin Sphere

No. 628960

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No. 628963

File: 1599945135028.png (1.46 MB, 750x1334, filtered.png)

Tried filtering it to be more neutral.

No. 628966

Yeah, this looks nice, a more neutral tone. I like the vibrant orange in something like a sunset scene, but some of these feels much better with a slightly less vibrant tone.

No. 628969

first one just no, agree that the second one could be inspired but it's not copied and this whole callout is ridiculous.

No. 628980

This is a lot better than that ugly-ass, boring blue edit.

No. 628981

idk if this is fanart, but the concept are almost exactly the same for both, so it is heavily inspired at the very least, although if this is fanart, then the og artists themselves is ripping off someone's elses art and doesn't have a lot of moral high ground.

No. 628989

Like I said, I can see the direct inspiration for the second one (idk if that is a typical pose for that character though) but a side shot of San riding the wolf is just super basic. Plus the actual figures simply aren't copied and the coloring for both pieces is different.
Also, unless we're talking about people raised in complete isolation, pretty much all art concepts and forms are inspired by other art, this whole culture around being "original" or whatever is very modern, it's related to the idea of IP and it's not based in how reality works. People who think this is worth a callout just look either very young, uneducated or like haters.

No. 628990

Why not just give him a free drawing and tell him to send his money on artists that aren't directly responsible with his livelihood? So fucking gross. This shit made my blood boil.

I'm tired of people thinking they own compositions. Just outskill them and move on, no need to have an internet feud over false copyright claims. It's always these middling artists that take shit way too seriously and try to bully others. It's not great that they're piggybacking off your idea, sure, but to orchestrate a whole callout? Gauche.

No. 628995

ok so it is fanart, then, if it was an og piece id be suspicious, but if this is a common composition for the character then why is it such a big deal. fanart is literally ripping off someone elses art and your already in a shady legal spot with fanart. how you gonna sue someone else, when you dont even own your own work.

No. 628996

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>>628751 Funny enough the person who called her out is a cow herself https://twitter.com/alohasushicore/status/1304579881192378369?s=20

No. 629007

This just keeps getting better lmao

No. 629040

So what if she buys him ice cream or pays a small trip with that money? She's still taking money from her own 11 year old son, so basically he'll be paying whatever she decides to give him in return by himself. Why not give the fucking drawing for free? She's probably an insecure cow who wants everyone to know that she gets paid for her aRt and even her son knows her RaTes.

No. 629051

Where do you think he got that money from genius? Slaving away for Jeff Bezos or some shit? He isn't doing 8 Hour work days he gets money either for free, or for putting away the dishes. ALso he chooses to buy art from her, he doesn't have to, she isn't taking anything from him, and if he does get ice cream or some shit, that money she is "stealing" from him is being spent right back on him, and the things he wants. He could have bought himself fucking ice cream and snacks with that money. It's probably still gonna get spent on things for him, so who fucking cares.

No. 629057

Can barely tell this apart from the original. I think the point OP was trying to make about everything being constant orange is still correct.

Go back to 4chinz and stay there. I'm tired of their shitty empty buzzwords.

No. 629061

that's a 15 yo with 17k followers. good for them

No. 629107

OP here. I actually like this edit, but like >>628871 and >>628876 said it looks dull because of the values. My point was that all of the art looked the same, all orange and all blue are both boring. I found it kind of annoying since the drawings themselves have a nice style. Pretty good for a 15 year old. Maybe as they get more experience and confidence they won’t rely on orange filters so much.

No. 629116

Who the fuck cares who are these mentals. Too bad for alohasushicore and perisceris whoever they are, but doesn't change anything about stealing someone's art.
>I'm glad the artist is fine
People acting like making a post on Twitter is like punching them in the face irl.

It does bring some minor satisfaction that the artist admitted their mistakes, it's much more than most. Taking the girl who used to trace persona's art as an example, most people find excuses or simply ignore and try to twist the story into a pity party for them.

No. 629123

File: 1599956456790.jpg (689.86 KB, 1080x1974, mlktwea.jpg)

I didn't realize I knew this artist until anon brought up the 15-year-old part.

They're very talented, especially compared to most artists on insta and more so considering their age, but their art definitely has been relying too much on orange filter lately. (I blame big instathot artists who reeee about how everyone needs consistent colour scheme and aesthetic to make it. Anyone would feel pressured to fit in.)

This is what their art looked like when I started following them. You can see how they have a good grasp on color theory.

No. 629162

A-anons what does "symbol draw" mean? I keep seeing "don't symbol draw" but always too afraid to ask.

No. 629163

File: 1599960435273.jpg (261.65 KB, 1591x950, SymbolsMoon.jpg)

It means drawing a hand as a turkey among other things. Also pic related.

No. 629167

I don't get it… I'm ESL I'm sorry lol

No. 629179

It's when you draw an object from you're imagination without actually taking into account how the object actually looks. This can be super helpful for beginners, but you have to break the habit fast, because you're learning how to draw in 2D instead of 3D. That can make art stiff.

Also, just to be clear, drawing from your imagination isn't bad. It's just important to accurately draw things.

This page explains it better than I do with photo examples so I suggest so read this for better understanding: https://www.boredpanda.com/how-to-draw-with-eyes-not-brain/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

No. 629185

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What makes a good anime design in your opinion?
I find Zun's designs to be amazing but i can't figure out why.

No. 629199

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No. 629206

someone should make a design your own toohoo thread in /m/

No. 629214

Fun idea

No. 629220

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I think the anime character designs that are most popular seem to follow a pattern of good coordination, not too much stuff going on. Maybe you like his designs because they are really cohesive? All the colors “make sense” together, overall they are visually pleasing. I feel like clashing is what makes a lot of character designs. Pic related because the girl character is what I (imo) consider clashing/too much happening.

No. 629222

i meant to say “is what makes a lot of character designs fall flat” lol I can’t type

No. 629235

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Zun is a madman
I think you are onto something, i like that Touhou characters all look like they belong in the same universe, they share similar accesories like ribbons and hats and coherent themes like Japanese Folklore. Other famous franchises like Fate look too generic to me, the characters could belong to any other gacha game or jrpg, but touhou characters are very distinct.

No. 629326

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Ive always liked (most) Tales character designs to be good for these reasons. Good color usage and relatively simple clothing. It's gotten worse as time went on though. Like with Velvet, love her but wtf

No. 629351


To me touhou looks like some generic drawings I used to see back then in deviantart. Fate's designs were a bit different maybe when the anime first aired out, but nowadays I feel most animes look the same.
I think good designs overall come from not only character designs alone, but if the surroundings and minor characters merge well with them. If it's inconsistent without any explanation then it feels weird.

No. 629365

it's like learning to draw eyes anime style and drawing the same shape every time without learning how an eye is supposed to sit in a human skull. Like piecing together a picture from parts instead drawing a real person (I wish I had a picture to demonstrate on my hd sorry)

No. 629369

4chan doesn't own the word "soul", calm down.

No. 629390

Ah yes, so it's fine because in the end she's the one owning his money because she gives it to him, so she's right asking her son money for a shitty drawing. Wanting a literal kid to pay for everything her mommy does for him makes you sound like a bitter lunatic.
Also stop with the "who fucking cares" argument, we're here to shit on artists on an imageboard ffs.

No. 629406

I’ve started to post regularly on my Instagram again and my followers are steadily dropping, like what do I even do! I know that follower count and likes shouldn’t matter but god, I feel like my art has improved so much since I started and people are still unfollowing. It’s pretty hard not to tie how good an artist you are with how many people are interested.

No. 629410

>I'm tired of people thinking they own compositions.
This. It's literally the equivalent of that red skinned demon girl drama. Some compositions are so basic and universally used that it's hard for someone not to regurgitate something that has already been done by someone else. Yeah it might be annoying to see someone do something similar you did but it's still not "unfair" or "stealing".

No. 629414

The same thing happens to me, anon. It really does blow and even when friends say to not take numbers seriously, it still stings. Especially since numbers DO in fact help with getting accepted into certain projects. (Not to mention some conventions looking to your social media status as a way of gaging wether or not to accept your application… Numbers shouldn’t judge how good of an artist you are but yeah…)

No. 629419

This redraw is recent, and is just as bad as the original. Even if their skill is quite decent, I don't think they should re-design characters. When you compare the silhouette of the characters that she made to the original, it's just as bad or worse since you can't tell anything from their silhouettes. They said that they like redesigning characters, but you'd think that they have a grasp on how character design works - they don't.

Most artists on YT who do redesigns just redesigns the characters to have their specific style and aesthetic that the "redesign" sometimes becomes unrecognizable and loses the charm of the original. The redesigns just becomes their OC while claiming that it's a "redesign".

People can redesign while adding their personal twist, but when that twist is just as bland and boring as the original (sometimes even worse), then that's when I have a problem with these types of videos.

No. 629426

So many times I’ve gone onto an Instagram page that has ‘character design~’ in the bio and all of their art is of the same-face pretty girl or anime style boy. Variety is over, only samey looking cute art allowed, I guess.

No. 629432

>>629116 Didn't say it did, you daft cunt. This is the artist salt thread and ednyaroo is an artist.

No. 629436

It's only natural to have a drop phase after a return, you're trying to rebuild your brand with different content - it can be better, as you've say you improved a lot - but it's still different and some people who liked what you did before may be just not on board with this, so they go away. Additionally, a classic of instagram "get followers fast" tactic is people just randomly following you among hundreds of others in hope you'll go to see their account and follow back; and then these people just go on unfollow spree every now and then to keep their feed clean, since they didnt care in the first place anyway. It's possible you have a lot of people like this following you, and once you started posting they were reminded of your existence and they remove you too, but it's not any loss for you because, like I've said before, they never cared. If you keep posting relatively often and interact with people who interact with your art you'll definitely build a new, better, more engaged following eventually. Don't get discouraged by numbers.

No. 629442

He's choosing to spend his money on this, she isn't taking anything away? He could just as well commision other artists if he wanted. Why are you so mad, this isn't a big deal, and the kid is clearly ok with it.

>Wanting a literal kid to pay for everything her mommy does for him makes you sound like a bitter lunatic.

This is art, not fucking food. He isn't gonna pay rent or a cab fare. Also yeah who fucking cares, because this is an art imageboard, and this is just discussing some rando's parenting style, which is not abusive or anything and has nothing to do with art.

No. 629472

Am I the only one who thinks it's both totally okay and reasonable for a mother who's also an artist to charge or not charge money for a commission from her kid? If she charges him money it's a good parenting decision to teach him about the value of money and budgeting through a luxury he himself chose to purchase and if she draws for him for free it's from a loving mom who enjoys doing something nice for her son. Both options are completely fine. I don't see why this is such a discussion.

No. 629477

i gotta agree and one thing some anons don't seem to consider: it's possible she doesn't charge him every time he asks her to draw something. she could be just doing it every now and then to show him that yes, this is the process and artists should be payed for their work, but since he is family he can get free work sometimes.

No. 629525

Anons equating this to child abuse or something are so delusional. I'm an adult now and I would still demand payment for art I do if it's a big piece, and I would pay my family for work they do. Like honestly, this is his mom's job, and if he commisions some big elaborate piece or a character design for 25+ dollars that is not a big deal. 25 Dollars is nothing for an art piece, especially for a kid he earns that money doing either chores or it's a free allowance.

No. 629530

Has anyone here called it abusive though. The most I've seen, seems to think it's just shitty and mostly done as a humble brag.

No. 629539

It's not abuse, just shitty to take money from your kid for something like this. He's 11 so 25 bucks is probably a lot to him, i'd understand if he was an adult but a kid? nah.

It would sound ridiculous in any other profession too, if she was a uber driver would she accept payment for taking her kid somewhere like the mall? Or if she was a dance teacher would she take money for dancing with her kid for a bit?

Maybe it's the way some of us are raised but i have never seen a parent do something like this, and the kids in my family still grew up to be normal with money without this "lesson".

No. 629540

Samefag but can we get back to the cows please

No. 629546

>He's 11 so 25 bucks is probably a lot to him
He's 11 that means he has all his neccessities paid for by his mom/parents. He has that money to pay for luxury things he wants! A lot of toys and games kids his age play with are a lot more expensive than 25 bucks. It's something he decided to purchase on his own free will.

>It would sound ridiculous in any other profession too

It's about teaching the kid about money, why's that so hard to grasp for you? Which, by the way, will be highly beneficial for him in the future. It's basically parental love to teach him the value of money and budgetting.

Sure we can, but not before you got your final say on the subject right?

No. 629549

Ladies your both fucking pretty, move on.

No. 629550

I think it's just like, a little game the artist does with her kid. He wants to be treated like a big boy, and the mum is playing along. It's still family money, she's gonna use it on her kid's care anyway

No. 629556

Exactly. It's not abuse but it's just stupid and weird to brag on the internet about taking money from your kid because you're ~raising him right~. I would feel I was straight out exploiting if I took $25 from my son to draw him a picture, I'd rather ask him to do some chores as a payment.

No. 629566


Same. I think what kaneblob did for the anime promo was REALLY STUPID she took the background of that drawing and painted over and also got paid Not sure why she thought she would be able to get away with that, but the other ones she was called out for…I have mixed feelings because everyone gets inspiration from other artists, photos etc, Some poses and compositions are so normal and over used , how can you say the idea belongs to you only or that a color palette belongs to you , I think in some drawings like the spirited away one was too obvious the heavy inspiration ..that one makes me uncomfortable but the other ones are kinda …normal? I feel anyone could come with the idea or colors , I have mixed feelings because I get sometimes the drawing can become plagiarism but sometimes it’s just inspiration. I’m not in any side because of my mixed feelings ( the paint over promo doesn’t count in my mixed feelings, that one was just stupid)

No. 629568

At that age i wanted to spend the rare money i got from relatives to help my parents pay the bills. Guess what, the didn't take it, because it's weird to charge your small kid for something. And i'm still a financially responsible adult who pays others for their time, there are other ways to teach him about financial responsibility y'know.

>Sure we can, but not before you got your final say on the subject right?

Nope, YOU get to win the argument. What she's doing is fine, i agree now, answer with a snarky response so we can go back to the thread topic already plz.

No. 629571

Yeah, how did she think no one would realize when it's a poster for a huge anime? in fanart it's fine i think to "cheat" on backgrounds but on a job it's too much.

By spirited away you mean the princess mononoke one or was there another call out?

No. 629588

You're the one who keeps bringing it up. It's not shitty or abusive, it's just a different style of parenting, and it teaching him financial responsibility and to respect his mom's job.
>help my parents pay the bills
buying art is not the same as paying the fucking rent jfc

Anyways, is this video from Rae kind of a rip off of the emily artful one, because she's the only other yt artist review ive seen on black 3.0. Maybe that's why it seems so familiar.

No. 629590

part 2

No. 629596

i think painting over someones elses art is never ok, but she could have done a similar building herself if she so wanted to get that same feeling, she has the skills, she might have been called out for plagiarism and heavy inspiration but at least she woudln't be called tracer . I don't think this will impact her much on twitter or insta, but I wonder if it will impact companies commissioning her for promo art like this, now that promo she did its unusable, she might have ruined her chances but who knows, she is pretty popular. I think Rossdraws did something similar not for a commission or drawing, it was with a photo of a random girl on insta but he is doing more than fine right now (Not saying they need to be destroyed, that's too much, just saying she will probably be fine in social media) https://twitter.com/aloefisk/status/1304570233324146688 this one, I feel this one its too obvious, I remember when I first saw it on twitter at first I thought both were done by the same artist. I think this one is the only one that bothers me. the other ones are meh to me

No. 629598

File: 1600015896294.png (611.39 KB, 723x431, spirited away.png)

>>629571 I forgot to add the screenshot

No. 629600

I think it's crazy that everyone is ok with stealing backgrounds. So is this something we should all do now? Because I don't want to bother with backgrounds either if I can copy and paste them from another artist, do some edits and make my art look more impressive fast. I would be able to post many more visually appealing pieces faster.

No. 629603

Even if she wanted to save time with the background she could've just done a photobash on a free to use stock photo or something and it would've been fine. I don't get why she didn't just do that but instead chose to paint over something someone else created. There are plenty of open sourced assets people can use for free, no need to go trace off other artists. I don't get it.

No. 629612

File: 1600017783698.jpg (90.37 KB, 900x360, 3wm8ASPEQU1MYrunXA92kMC-CInAes…)

People typically don't care as long as your aren't stealing other people's artwork. A lot of concept art is just photobashing. If your going to reference something, the unofficial rule has always been use 3 or more sources that way you aren't making a 1:1 recreation with a few bits moved around.

No. 629627

i doubt its stolen but its not really original and pretty late, considering when the paint came out

No. 629634

>calls India ink “paint”
>calls charcoal “black chalk”
>Is an art channel

No. 629638

anon you say this as if Rae has an art degree or something

No. 629646

That's what kills me, she has an art degree, and yet she still puts out this half assed content. Even if she still sucked at art after graduating, she could be self critical and actually work on improving but she doesn't.

These kinds of mistakes just show me that she doesn't really care about the art or the content, because being focused on details and making well researched videos shows you put effort into soemthign which she clearly doesn't. It's sad really, because having an artist that objectively speaking just makes shitty art, improve it, would make for really interesting videos.

No. 629666

it doesn't look like a paint over. it looks like she did draw all of it and the original was an inspiration

No. 629669

Anon it literally lines up 1:1 with the original as demonstrated in the Gyazo link in this post. >>628751 Don't be ridiculous. That's a blatant case of tracing.

No. 629672

damn the building does look identical my bad. if she didn't trace it but just took an inspiration and drew different building or some shit reflecting in soaked street it would be an inspiration tho

No. 629678

I wouldn’t mind so much if they weren’t extremely basic mistakes. Like that video where she made tempura paint with powdered soft pastels. Like sure as a craft for kids, but she was judging it like she was going to end up anything decent with what she could grind herself with a mortar and pestle. She has loads of video ideas that would be really cool if she actually researched them.

No. 629683

Rae is dumb what else is new

No. 629719

Never ever heard of ednyaroo and their art personally,but 2 Twitter kids complaining about them doesn't make them a cow. Tone it down a few, you felt way too attacked.

No. 629733

I've been watching ergojosh's Lightbox videos and it's just a boring fest of him drawing pretty girls and people kissing his ass.

"Drawing a character from scratch!" aka doodling two random girls and one male, all three with boring pinterest model looks, and he doesn't even lineart the doodles. Then he doodles a generic pretty girl face and slaps half assed uninteresting shading on it and calls it a day.

Seriously? People are hanging around this guy for 2 whole hours just to watch him make a bunch of sketchy shit doodles??

No. 629738


I watched it too expecting him to make some cool fantasy character designs or smth or at least more rendered pics. It was underwhelming and lowkey disappointing.

No. 629749

I don't get it either. Maybe thought she could get away with it because the other artist is Japanese?

No. 629795

I hadn’t seen much of him other than his weird rant about there being too many pretty girl art on social media but what I took out of his LBX content is that he’s a chill streamer but everyone else can work circles around him with actual jobs in the art industry. Similar to rossdraws tbh, they had a lot of those social media kinds of people in addition to the pros

No. 629798

File: 1600045161100.png (410.35 KB, 599x579, josh 1.PNG)

Tbh ergojosh isn't a good artist. Something about the way he shades is so unappealing. I think he overblends? Also, all he draws is pretty girls so I don't know if he has any room to talk about artists who only draw pretty girls.

No. 629800

File: 1600045204083.png (612.76 KB, 589x588, josh 2.PNG)

No. 629801


His shading looks fuzzy on the wrong places and it looks like he abuses highlight layer modes/overlay too much. The skin ends up looking like glossy plastic instead of actual skin.

No. 629806

Ergojosh's art looks very unnatural to me. In the bad way.

The people in his pieces, or at least in most of them, look stiff and lifeless even when they're in different poses or making different expressions. It just…lacks something. Like the character is smiling but the feeling isn't there. Rossdraws only draws pretty girls but at least his art has a semblant of emotion and personality in it.

Plus like Anon said above, his rendering looks too glossy and plastic-like which doesn't help.

No. 629813

That guys hair is grossing me out, what an unappealing style

No. 629823


dude's hair looks like peanut butter

No. 629834

Is that supposed to be Bill Murray? Even in his 20s he didn't look like that at all. Also wtf is going on I the shadow around scarlett's neck. There are some really bad choices in this study.

No. 629837

Tbh is it just me or is everything (or nearly everything) ergojosh draws are studies or copying off photos? I rarely see him drawing things without directly referencing or copying a photo.

No. 629839

File: 1600049031987.jpg (216.65 KB, 1080x1113, 20200913_230210.jpg)

That broken wrist in the back. He can't really portray his subjects in a recognizable way. They all look the same, or have little in common to the source.

No. 629840

File: 1600049034353.jpg (148.87 KB, 1138x1280, e27d932d911ef68a878ac18f658747…)

The ref btw. Bill looks to young and his hair is made of melted chocolate and Scarlett looks like she rubbed dirt on her neck. Also her expression is different.

You're right. I don't think it's bad to do studies but it doesn't seem like he draws anything from imagination. I guess that's just some artists tho.

No. 629841

File: 1600049110117.jpg (457.02 KB, 1080x1080, 20200913_230608.jpg)

His reference

No. 629845


I think that's him trying to make his subjects look "pretty" instead of "real". Comparing this drawing to the reference photo he used, it's clear that he went out of his way to "beautify" her, down to the point of changing her expression to something more sultry and attractive instead of the goofy face the girl was making.

No. 629849

Why do all shitty fujoshi artists re-draw things they are strangely jealous of? Can art not be pretty anymore? IDK just an observation I made back when I was in art classes a few years ago.

No. 629850


They're insecure and jealous. Plus wanting to project themselves on everything.

No. 629854

Is this a fujoshi thing? I thought it was just a Western thing.

No. 629861

why is her neck so fucking blurryyyy

No. 629864

idk, I feel like the common trait between fujoshi artist IS that they are Western as I am Western too. When I compare the works of fujoshi artists to non-fujoshi artists, their was a HUGE difference.

No. 629872

Japanese fujos usually don't do shitty redraws though

No. 629876

File: 1600051744944.jpg (357.33 KB, 800x1150, ross-tran-rosstran-4.jpg)

See the difference between Rossdraws and Ergojosh is that one actually knows his fundies and is a skilled painter who's become stagnant and repetitive to keep up with social media algorithms, while the other can only draw pretty Pinterest girls while at the same time claiming to be better than those who do the exact same.

If you look at Ross's older work, it's evident that the skill is there, but the same can't be said for Ergo Josh. The latter only got popular because of his ASMR Procreate chill videos.

No. 629882

Damn, this was really the level of polish I was expecting to see in his artbook but at last, we ended up with a collection that was even more trimmed down than his youtube videos.

No. 629886


I kinda feel bad for Ross. He's a very skilled artist with clearly a lot of potential to draw amazing pieces but has to dull his work because of social media bs.

But then we get randos like Ergojosh who draw like shit but get clout effortlessly by doing "ASMR" voiceovers and drawing Pinterest model girls.


No. 629923

Examples? Not denying that this happens, I just have never seen and am curious what you're talking about

No. 629936

Yeah I really think he has no foundation to stand on when he complains about too much pretty girl art on IG when he thinks pushing himself is to draw a pretty girl with a slightly more different face

No. 629947

File: 1600060041290.jpg (477.85 KB, 1226x2047, FEMME_PART_2_1024x1024@2x.jpg)

Reminds me of Alythuh's shitty art kek

No. 629965

Uh oh, it's the anti-fujo sperg again.

No, it's not "just a fujoshi thing". It's just a western thing.

No. 629966

I agree with >>629923 can we get some examples?

No. 629968

to be fair
Ross is way more popular
he's from one of the best concept art school in US for 4 year
while Ergojosh is a self-teaching
if you check his art 3 years earlier you would see that his art grew pretty fast

No. 629986

Whenever I take commissions some of them don't come out as good as I want them to be and it bothers me. I've never had complaints from the client, but I can't stop thinking about having made that piece I don't fully like. Does anyone else feel like this? Is this normal? Is it that I have to develop my skills more so I don't produce things I don't like anymore?

No. 630001

Wow, this is a gorgeous aesthetic. I never paid much attention to Rossdraws because all I ever saw of his work was his pretty girl algorithm bait. I had no idea he was actually talented.

No. 630003

File: 1600069057603.jpg (22.48 KB, 480x272, 1592034849-offset-13484-previe…)

A lot of artists have done Spirited Away fan art based on this motif though. Pic related is another one and you can find plenty more just on Google.
(Sorry for the shitty pic. I tried looking for the clip that someone saved of this but it's buried under a retardedly huge number of clips of the artist's vtuber avatar talking.)

I think it's normal, or at least I used to feel this way too. When I used to do commissions, I would sometimes spend way too long on a piece to try and get it as close to my vision as possible and still end up hating it. In the end, you just have to train yourself to realize that all that matters is that you did as best as you could and that your client likes it.

No. 630010

The way I see it, no single person is ever going to scrutinize your artwork as much as you do, and unless your mistakes are glaring, they're minor. If clients have no complaints and you keep getting jobs, try not to worry about it.

No. 630011

File: 1600070721555.jpg (626.03 KB, 750x1071, everything_will_be_okay_by_yuu…)

This one too. It just seems to be a very common motif. Makes me wonder why so many people focus on it, it's not even too close to the colors and feeling of the movie.

No. 630033

Wasn't haku the river chihiro fell when she was younger? Seems to fit the movie imo.

No. 630059

Yeah, but the scene is shown for only a few seconds and the dragon is off screen. There isn't an actual scene with Chihiro and Haku in the water like so many artists like to draw, and with all that goes on in the movie you'd expect them to focus on many different things. Maybe they're all taking inspiration from each other. I just think it's odd, that's all.

No. 630094


ErgoJosh also hasn't a sense of lighting or shading since all his characters are drawn against a white background. There's no mood, no elements surrounding the characters to justify such harsh shading. He just ignored the mood lighting altogether and dodge/burned the shit outta her neck.
He needs to be doing more studies away from the social media before going on panels to fill his ego.

Anyway, switching gears, I don't feel like I missed much for lightbox expo. The discord was a hot mess and most of the panels were mostly just people in the industry sucking each other off for 40 minutes and then giving generic advice. Glad I didn't pay top tier prices for it. That's kind of why I can't stand industry events. It's just people already in the industry rubbing elbows, popular social media artists and then giving out scraps of generic advice you've heard for the 100th time. People like ergojosh don't really have anything to bring to the table. I got the most out of independent artists doing their own advice streams and q and a's than sitting watching some popular artist stream art they would already be doing on their own.

No. 630109


THIS. To me LBX brought nothing new. The big artists participating in it mostly gave the same old repetitive advices that they have at least one video about already in their channel. Plus the obvious ass-kissing.

At this point it's just an artist circlejerk. They teach us nothing new, draw the same old thing over and over, repeat the same advices and promote each other while basking in on the attention of fans while they doodle random things and watch meme videos sent on the stream chat. Disappointing.

No. 630114

anons, what do you guys think about the art and commentary youtuber omnia?

No. 630122

>There isn't an actual scene with Chihiro and Haku in the water

there are a few scenes where she is remembering where we the audience see her grabbing into him in the water. but why are you even complaining about a rendering of a canon event? it not being explicitly shown on screen doesn't mean it didn't happen, qhy wouldn't people want to draw their depictions of it?

No. 630127

I think people would give her the benefit of doubt in any of these fanarts if they were a one time thing, but she has a history of other suspisciously similar works and the BNA artwork background is outright stolen.

No. 630140

I'm not complaining, to me it just seemed odd and I was commenting on it. Yes, I know there's that scene in the movie, I wrote it in my original post. But as I said it's not shown explicitly, so you would expect artists to make all kinds of interpretations of it, maybe using even the colors and pose used in the movie or something, but instead artists choose the same pose, colors and concept probably because they just want to follow what other popular people do instead of thinking about something different. That's what I was trying to say.

No. 630195

Speaking of this artist (Yue) she charges about $1700-2400 per commission kek

No. 630205

According to her site, it ranges from $600 to $2500 depending on what you want.


No. 630210

Oh wow… I wish I could charge that much.

No. 630212

File: 1600098412907.jpg (85.24 KB, 900x495, IMG_20200914_174736.jpg)

I think her artwork is pretty good.

No. 630217

good for her

No. 630219

File: 1600098690399.png (294.44 KB, 800x800, Eh0bDWEX0AQ6MF3.png)

DeePee want to go full freelance next month.

Well, good luck with that when your art still looks like this.

No. 630222

File: 1600098904454.jpeg (252.84 KB, 750x1096, 73378010-60D9-4495-BEDA-D266DD…)

No. 630232

I don't care for their furby and other stuff but i kind of like this… gaudy cats are my weakness

No. 630243

File: 1600100530640.png (52.98 KB, 200x400, 21F291C9-E53F-4476-B1D6-B0B9CF…)

i may be stretching but the black one’s mouth and perspective made me think of this

No. 630246

File: 1600100718144.jpg (24.91 KB, 480x360, AwShitNigga.jpg)

>Makes pyw threads constantly.
>People actually do that there.
>People do that when their art looks nothing like his.
Why are people like this? Just draw smug meme shark or whatever VTubers there are if you want your numbers.

No. 630248

File: 1600100940323.jpeg (858.6 KB, 1242x2031, 76DB8A75-7D67-4777-9CD0-A01B2D…)

What do you guys think of this artist? I used to really look up to them but now I feel like all their art is really similar. They’re really skilled for their age though.

No. 630250

>but now I feel like all their art is really similar.
The further you go in the art hole, the sooner you'll realize that you have to throw to make fans not like your art. It's a dreadful cycle of laziness and worse, plain white backgrounds.

No. 630251

File: 1600101264679.png (177.16 KB, 326x460, MionOG_a_(1).png)

Ryukishi07's is better.

No. 630270

it's usualy hot men in semi realistic style. i guess some people may think it's boring but i think what's missing is maybe different color palette? they draw ppg in semi realistic style now and one green skinned dude looked great in their style

No. 630271

File: 1600103482322.jpg (13 KB, 254x198, images (3).jpg)

No. 630309

can't tell if this is a joke or not cause these designs are hideous..

No. 630322

>>630248 I follow this artist and I noticed that they have a bad case of same head syndrome and maybe same face too for their male characters

No. 630351

File: 1600111874930.png (145.24 KB, 395x480, But2_defa2.png)

It's not a joke, I and many others find his art to be really charming.

No. 630356

ryushiki is great. umineko was a masterpiece.

No. 630368

true i also think 14yo's deviantart sonic drawings are masterpieces

No. 630373

Wow, may some people are really not meant to make art

No. 630376

tbh if he was a complete nobody artist and didn't make visual novels i doubt anyone would like this

No. 630389

I've yet to see an art commentary channel with art that's actually good and not just "okay" or mediocre.

Does anyone know any art commentary channel with GOOD art?

No. 630394

I feel anyone who has actual good art won't waste their time with commentary videos. It could also alienate some of their audience if they have weird opinions etc.

No. 630395

what? he was a complete nobody. wtf are you talking about?

No. 630415

he got popular for the novels and not the art, retard.

No. 630418

File: 1600118759464.png (3.43 MB, 1914x1272, Screen Shot 2020-09-14 at 2.23…)

She spends 40+ hrs on paintings like pic related, which are the commissions that cost over $2,000, and her prices are in NZD. Her prices are reasonable for the quality of her work.

No. 630424

oh wow, I didn't even notice the NZD. So her prices in USD basically range from ~$400 to $1666. Very reasonable for her quality of work and popularity.

No. 630425

What's a typical art commentary channel?

No. 630437


Not the same anon from the post but alas,

Talks about art community drama (usually generic videos like "5 things I HATE/LIKE about the online art community!", "Artist Struggles!", "X ARTIST IS PROBLEMATIC!") and may dwelve into milkier stuff (ex.: Yandere Dev drama, other art commentary channels) from time to time for extra attention, uses sprites instead of facecam with an (unfinished) speedpaint of their own (although some may put in speedpaints from their subscribers) playing in the background. Sprites tend to be of their personas or an OC.

(I say unfinished because most of the time the speedpaint isn't complete when the video ends, so too bad if you were actually interested in seeing the entire process.)

Art is usually cutesy-looking with cartoony-chibi look and pink/purple cell shading. Cell shading everywhere. Goofy and sometimes overly dramatic expressions. Art skill level is usually between passable to okay amateur. Nothing exactly good but rarely something that's fresh trash. Just "okay" like the anon said.

OFC that's hardcore generalization though. There are some commentary channels with better-than-average art around such as Ponder, others with art that's more on the shitty side such as Creepshow. And some are middle of the road such as Tobi.

No. 630440

art commentary channels with sprites are like budget vtubers minus the roleplaying tbh

No. 630458

File: 1600123475647.jpg (150.99 KB, 900x1200, 1586998248068.jpg)

I've yet to see an art channel with actual good art. It's a shame the bar is so low to artists now.
He has that early 00's anime charm

No. 630481


Artists who are truly skilled and confident don't need to resort to making videos about art community drama to attract attention.

No. 630488

File: 1600127157095.png (521.85 KB, 605x1476, 7554646467658657568.png)

Apologies for what could possibly be old news, just wondering if anybody had some info on possible drama?

I was looking at a character design video I liked by an artist called Joopis
online and decided to check her twitter. It appears she said she was taking
a break from social media due to it dominating her life. I scrolled down
and saw all the positive comments but there was one hidden comment I came
across which insinuated that she was involved in abuse towards a minor.

Does anybody know anything about it? Did I miss it from the old art salt threads?

No. 630494

File: 1600127674972.png (69.79 KB, 619x658, Joopis abuse.PNG)

No. 630500

File: 1600127874554.jpg (113.84 KB, 512x383, umineko-ep-5-1-beatrice-and-th…)

I love Ryu's giant mitten hands.

His art might be objectively bad (although I personally find it charming as fuck), but I think his character designs are amazing.

No. 630511

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This news broke during the same time as the Streamer callout avalanche during summer which is probably why it was overlooked.

No. 630562

Had no idea. Thanks anon

No. 630573

I dunno, I don't think the advice ever really changes. Grind your fundamentals, m8. But now I realize "networking" in art means swapping instagram links like business cards.

I'm planning on archiving all the videos on their website and uploading them somewhere like mega. Might be interesting for people since some of them are gonna take them down. I laughed my ass off when people lost their minds in the discord over the Zoom rooms having a capacity, though.

No. 630574

Do people actually forget about drama after 4 or so months? I haven't payed attention to Kun0 or what's his name but hiding from the matter entirely is just asking for some dickhead to go into a stream, redeem that highlight message feature, and remind everyone what happened.
Heaven forbid a convention artist has drama attached to them because that might as well be blackmail material.

No. 630578

Still mediocre but at least not as ugly as her cursed drawings that made me block her

No. 630583

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>The 24k followers on this person confirms that the modern day parent is perfectly okay with letting 8-10 year olds be on a site that specifically says you need to be at least 13.

No. 630590

I'm pretty sure they got most of their followers from F4F shit, their engagement is super low

No. 630598

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>24k+ follows
>5 rts on new art post
Wouldn't be surprised if most of her followers had her on mute

No. 630600

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Thank God for the hide button.
Having (regrettably) looked through a DeePee thread I'm honestly surprised that no one has a carry character to promote themselves with. Marnie is right there guys.

No. 630606

man she is such a weirdo, she's known for lurking PULL/lolcow to shit talk her more successful friends. She was also called out a couple months ago for freely saying the n-word with her friends

No. 630621

Her voice is rather grating but it's most likely due to her young age. She's hard to listen to for long periods.

Her art is also incredibly mediocre, around the same skill set as CreepshowArt so I find it hard to stay focused or want to continue watching.

Her opinions are basically run of the mill and she tends to flip flop with things quite a bit when new information comes out.

In short:

I just don't really enjoy drama artubers or artubers in general unless they have skills that supersede my own–cuz then I'll be more focused than bored.

No. 630624

Are you the same anon as >>630114? Whatever.

I just looked them up and anon you must be either self posting or are very young because their art is incredibly underwhelming. All of their drawings are exactly the same in pose, design, and face. So incredibly similar that they definitely have same-face going on everywhere.

It's very generic cutesy and incredibly boring to look at. Their anatomy (whether stylized or not) could be so much better–but it's most likely that this artist is in their teens or very young.

Kudos to them for 6k followers, but honestly? That's not that hard to get on Instagram these days if you just post frequently and have the posts be the same thing every single time.

I would advise them to break out of their comfort zone and actually try learning their fundamentals in order to improve because their comfort zone is very much lackluster and they aren't going to get very far.

No. 630625

He's still streaming just fine and it looks like his Twitter replies are pretty generic "this is so good!"

I remember hearing about the drama a while back and didn't even know HIS name in particular, just his girlfriend's.

Surprise, surprise, I went to his stream and had no idea it was him from the video as there was no connection to the drama there. I didn't know until I brought up his username here and an anon told me. So I'd say he's doing pretty well considering, that or he just has a good grasp on keeping the past from catching up to him.

No. 630633

NTA but I had no idea a full well made illustration could go for that high of a price, I thought that generally it would always stay below $1000. Is that the norm or is she charging more than most people? For some people in my country that's the monthly income when working (physical labor) full time!

No. 630653

It's the norm for professional illustrations for clients like companies, since they aren't only paying for the art, but for the right to use it. To be honest it's a reasonable price for a whighly popular artist doing private commissions as well, especially if it's taking 40 hours. $1000 for 40 hours comes out to $25 an hour, which is a reasonable rate for skilled labor like high-quality art

No. 630669

When your main clientele is companies asking for promotion artwork and such instead of Twitter User SilverSonicFan asking for a bust shot of their OC it's a very standard price. Companies can afford it just fine and they expect a very different level of quality and have a larger list of requirements. It's a very different market. Also you have to keep in mind that it's not a regular day job so you need to charge bigger amounts for commissions because that money possibly has to last longer. And like >>630653 said it's only $25 an hour, a standard wage for a trained professional.

No. 630706

I see, that's great! And career goals honestly.

No. 630723

I once read a comment saying that an artist's true skill and ability could be seen with how well they draw hands, because it's very hard to mask a badly drawn hand behind stylization. Like the notion that you're only as good as your mistakes. It's certainly true in this drawing those hands are awful

No. 630752

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Today, someone put an absolute obscure gold nugget on my twitter feed. Some retard got ignored by a decently-sized artist from the Hazbin fandom and compiled a 306 pages long google doc - reasons for her tard rage include the artist lying about taking breaks from drawing, being a spastic attention whore and so on and so forth. It's 100% personal between flailchicken and lhana666 - there are lots of dicord screenshots. I love irrelevant, petty shitshows and this is no different.


No. 630755

Imagine wasting your time writing that my god. Some people dont know how to let shit go

No. 630756

ok, this is just insane

No. 630758

No, that's definitely standard in western industrialized countries though pay for editorial in general is shit and idk how the market is doing for game key art (probably also shit because there's a lot of competition). Also non private illustration prices consist of the pay for making the drawing itself plus usage rights which account for a large portion of the income. You need to consider though that an elaborate piece can take 1-2 weeks, especially when you have a lot of communication and revisions, you need to pay for everything as a freelancer and you will have phases where you aren't booked. Overall it may sound like a lot but there's really not a lot of money in it.

No. 630760

Fucking christ, and here I thought the amount of time and energy put into the LupisVulpes doc was disturbing. This is on a whole other level.

No. 630772

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Anyone else following the ednyaroo drama?

>@perisceris makes post calling out ednya for manipulating, gaslighting, and generally treating other aspiring artists in his discord community like shit
>@ednyaroo makes half assed apology on Twitter and blames his bad behavior on an abusive childhood/family
>followers point out the flawed logic in ednya’s responses, follower count starts dropping
>ednya says an explanation is coming

I was following ednya/Riley for his art and had occasionally noticed vent posts that would soon be deleted and passive aggressive statements directed at followers. But I also felt bad about the abusive childhood and feeling forced into a major he didn’t want to be in. So many people are coming out of the woodwork with abuse stories now.

No. 630773

Jesus lord you weren't kidding. People really going out there to make their petty high school locker room drama into a big public spectacle like anyone outside of their circle of friends gave a fuck. This is pure lunacy at work and I have no words.

No. 630779

Dude what's with those people making several pages long docs just because of drama shit? Do they have no synthesis skill to put it all in a couple of tweets?

No. 630783

They know people will just skip through it and not actually read all that shit so they can just slap a 300-page google document and summarize it as "twitter user x is an abusive, gaslighting pedophilic monster" and everyone will just accept it because look at all those words, why would they lie?

No. 630809

So this is the power of autism… la creatura… el atrocidad…

No. 630843

I feel like the face could use some work but the art is gorgeous? If she can charge 2000 good for her.

No. 630844

Is there any proof to back this up?

No. 630884

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Imagine policing Twitter people for drawing kiddos in the same world where this exists.

No. 630885

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apologies. phone did a weird thing on me. Reposting. (1/2)

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No. 630895

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sorry but I have to laugh. listen up everyone, you must state the fictional characters age every time or else. not a fan of her stuff but this is autistic.

No. 630903

God I've never been happier to have a non-English art account. I'd die if I'd have to deal with this on a daily basis. Imagine having to attach "SHE'S OVER 18" to every drawing of a girl with shapely thighs and big tits. lmfao

No. 630911

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>Fat tits make your character an adult even if the face is as round as the other.

No. 630917

Didn’t she get caught tracing awhile ago? Did she ever acknowledge it?

No. 630926

Back in her prime dA days, Ocean publicly said she's a proud lolicon and always wished she was 12 so this didn't surprise me.

No. 630928

do you even anime?

No. 630935

>feels more like you pulled it for backlash rather than for reflection

What the fuck do these people expect? Either everyone does what you say or everyone has their own genuine opinions, you can't have it both ways

No. 630940

Twitter represents ouroboros anon, the only way to sate them is to time travel.

No. 630945

Someone tell these people to stop watching anime, period.
They should also publicly share the contents of their hard drives and private twitter accounts so we can verify that what they sexualize holds up to scrutiny.

No. 630965

I love these fake wokesters on twitter. Glad to see it’s just been a mini backlash so far from what I can tell.

No. 630968

I guess most disney princesses are toddlers then because they have big heads with round faces and big eyes.

No. 630985

anons it's not that deep, people just ship chihiro and haku and like to draw their meet cute, that's all there is to it, the pose is a call back to that scene where haku finds chihiro in the other old witch house

No. 631117

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Can someone redpill me on the usual prices that anime commissions artists sell at? I feel like something is off with this one and wanted to check.

No. 631119

Depends. Average prices I see range from $50-$300

No. 631123

I think that's a pretty standard rate for this kind of art. Head/Bust with $43 shaded seems a bit steep for this level of skill though but I don't think it's overpriced if people are willing to pay up. If they went for over $100 then it would be a ripoff.

No. 631135

>A fotm game that was overtaken by Fall Guys and probably Among Us is a genuine commission he offers.

No. 631138

Honestly never listen to pricing advice from people from lolcow, we have already established that some of these people don’t even draw.

To put it bluntly art market is kinda screwed, not overpriced like many in here like to think but severely underpriced. 40$ for custom work of anykind is miniscule. Any art should be prices way, way higher and if your art is not worth it, then you just shouldn’t be doing commissions. 100$ should be the minium starting price, not the ending price.

No. 631169

the prices seem average. That is the usual price you see.

No. 631182

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40 is fine until you realize Kaxukin exists and makes 90% of these artists' businesses look bad in comparison.

No. 631184


Just because someone is undercharging their art doesn’t mean everyone should.

No. 631193

You seem to forget that the customers for this sort of thing don't even know that $100 is what we consider normal and that's why /ic/ can never agree about what's fair pricing.

No. 631204

It's deleted now but if anyone wants to see it I can reupload. It's not worth reading to be honest, flailchicken is a 100% more suspect than Lhana simply because she threw together this incredibly petty and hyperbolic document. Imagine someone basically screenshotting everything you ever said on twitter or discord and painting it in the worst possible light, that is this entire document.

No. 631209

You guys need to take into account that some artists come from 3rd world countries, so 15 usd could support an entire family

No. 631210

File: 1600212215389.jpg (77.34 KB, 986x702, Rinnn.jpg)

>She devoted all this time into gathering "evidence" instead of just whaling for artist love.

No. 631229

…is no one going to point out that the three full body images have the exact same face aside from the eye shapes?

No. 631230

I think the problem is that there’s so many beginner artists doing commissions that people get used to low commission prices, then expect the same prices from higher-skilled artists. Not all art is created equal, and it should be priced accordingly.

No. 631231

I'd like to skim through it anon.

No. 631238

File: 1600214339161.png (127.13 KB, 549x745, child.PNG)

rodent child WIP

No. 631251

wrong thread anon, this is artists salt. nice art tho!

No. 631265

I guess that's true, but you could also charge what your art is worth and help your family out even more, why not take the chance? If it doesn't work out you could always lower your prices again.

No. 631270

this person keeps posting that artist share thread how long until people will learn she's just using it for some algo/engagement boost

No. 631323


The ears of the mouse girl look wrong. They‘re too close to her forehead and too high.

No. 631344

Is this your art? We have a art critique thread in /m/ that's more appropriate for this kinda stuff. Either way though, this is really nice!

No. 631381

Lol this is the guy who was dating RacistUncle and was part of Nosebros gang.
Hi tsflipp, this is a women's-only board

No. 631389

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No. 631390

Jfc is their kink beating women is that a real thing of course it is

No. 631391


If you want attention for your art this isn't the place anon. Go find some art sharing thread.

No. 631393

Beating women is never funny. I was punching this woman and i only laughed twice.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 631401

Did Racist Uncle draw this? The style is so ugly and shitty it has to be her, kek.

No. 631405

Take it easy its not done yet >.<(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 631419

Are you still into posting pictures of real children and asking who the "best loli" is?

No. 631430

Did racist actually do that? Pics?

No. 631435

Holy fuck…this is what people are pressed about?
Drawing cubes and shading them with different techniques oh the originality.
Shading from light to dark and turning circles into spheres. oh wow how unique. This is so fucking stupid

No. 631443

Jake Parker copied Alphonso's book copied the lay-out, sequence, most of the photos, and probably stole the writing in the book word-for-word. Obviously the techniques aren't new, that's not the issue.

No. 631444

*Jake Parker copied Alphonso's book layout. Sorry for the typo.

No. 631445

There's a Racist Uncle thread in /snow/ you can see caps in.

No. 631454

i bet this is the same anime scrote that was banned once before here lol

No. 631460

Didn't Racist Uncle's thread get locked because she wouldn't stop self posting? You think the bitch would take a hint

No. 631466

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the anatomy is too good to be her

No. 631492

I know you’re posting this to try and trigger people but honestly…. the drawing is really bad. It doesn’t look like the guys are punching her at all. You might have some parts of drawing down but you’re unable to put it together and make a complete scene. Try harder next time please, it’s embarrassing to see.

No. 631498

Not to rant about it because I agree but I also noticed the opposite, beginner artists doing experiented freelance prices

No. 631503


No. 631504

except the beating picture posted isn't by her. it has better anatomy not that it's great but still better than her's

No. 631505

Damn these are bad. Whoever it is they need to stop drawing this shit, seriously. Or stop drawing altogether.

No. 631506

It doesn't really matter honestly? Just tagged them both cause of the tryhard "edginess".

No. 631507

alright. i just don't want her to get credit on something better looking than her scribbles

No. 631527

How do you go about announcing that you're looking for someone to commission when you don't want a flood of shitty chibis or potato-nose "semi-realistic" artists in your replies? Do you just have to make a post and hope there's going to be a diamond in the pile of shit?

No. 631534


When I want to commission someone I usually go around searching for available artists that I like the style of, instead of waiting for them to come to me.

But if anything maybe you could specify the kind of style you want in your post? Nothing wrong with weeding out artists, it's your money.

No. 631543

lmao this happened to me too and I didn't even tweet "I want commissions" but something like "looking for commissions in a very specific style I have in mind is hard and I wish I could filter them like an online shop". The irony. I didn't even find that diamond among 50+ replies and QRTs after I muted the tweet.

I wish I could use Skeb.

This is what your art looks like when it has ~~~soul~~~ according to /ic/'s definition

Yes, same scrote trying to "troll" the previous thread with his anime loli scribbles. Mods should have believed my report.

No. 631552

Yeah if you don't know any artists who does commissions that you like I'd specify the style you're looking for or even show some reference images.

No. 631553

Yeah wtf lol. Huge boobs in bras don't look like that (try to understand the actual purpose of a bra) and I couldn't even tell what was going on with her head and arms at first. If you want to show a shirt that's pulled up, trapping her head and arms you still got to draw some structure. Also her knees look like she has an illness.

No. 631556

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the person who made this autism manifesto is close to her thirties. I have no fucking words

No. 631623


Anon most western twitter artists are adults with the minds of 5 year olds. Plus they're a Hazmat Hotel fan so it's expected.

No. 631625

most of the time i see artists putting on their bios that they're "character designers" or something along those lines and i look at their work, they tend to be pretty shit at character design.

why is it the people who claim to be character designers tend to be the worst ones? do they really think the industry will want their tumblr vomit oc?

No. 631633


Just hobbyists faking beeing professionals.

No. 631650

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People are self aware enough to know that artist isn't the word it used to be anymore but forget that they're part of the problem.

No. 631750

That's bs especially for people who are starting out and just wanna make a little money on the side.
>100$ should be the minium starting price, not the ending price.

If a person makes a simple line art and charges 25$ for it and it's good that's not a bad thing. There are simple cute things to make which frankly are not worth 100$, not because of lack of skill, but because it's not technically complicated and 100$ would be much to high a price for the level of technical skill and time invested. I could custom make the simplest little drawing but noonw would buy it would buy it for that much. There is no objecive metric where pricing should begin.

No. 631786

In the end artists who want to make a living need to specialize, you can't stop part-time artists and hobbyists from charging that little.

No. 631797

This. If there are people out there who will pay assloads for something so simple, that's just the way it is. I follow an artist who makes adopts and while I think their style is really awesome, I personally wouldn't pay $100+ for it which is what they charge for their adopts. They do them through auction with the starting bid of $100 and people actually do participate. They've even sold a character for around $325.
I found that outrageous but I can't diss on them because they know their audience and that they are willing to spend that much on their art.

No. 631944

Sure, here is the easyupload link: https://easyupload.io/w93lti

Think I got to page 80 before getting bored. There's some really cringey RP type stuff that I pulled faces at.

No. 631980

File: 1600302310745.jpg (28.36 KB, 500x449, images.jpeg-73.jpg)

>>24k folls, 5rts each new post
Either her followers had on mute or botting her acc up

No. 632022


I've been in ednyaroo/sandy tran inner circle and can confirm all of it is true. Her family is EXTREMELY wealthy and she would lie about being poor on Twitter. She has dissecting animals and has mentioned/bragged about hurting animals??? It's dumb but true

I've also have heard her voice and she has a speech impediment..she sounds like someone with down syndrome lol

Irl she has such a boring personality but online acts like she's the hottest shit ever. Glad karma is biting her ass

No. 632046

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No. 632068

You guys ever heard of creampuffpaws (Angel) on Instagram? She used to go by candiedguts/novactis back in 2014. Got called out before because she was a 16 year old drawing pedophilia along with her boyfriend who was 5-6 years older than her at the time. She's 22 years old now and she abuses her current boyfriend named Michael (verbally abuses him when he watches porn and then proceeds to send nudes to other people to spite him, threatens with suicide unless he makes a public apology) and sends her whiteknights to attack anyone that resembles her OCs even a single bit to the point of wishing death threats on them, and blames it on her self-diagnosed "autism" and "BPD" when confronted. She would even try to start fights with people under 16 years old. She recently got in a drama with an even more famous artist because Angel's OC was a carbon copy of the artist's OC, and naturally people confronted her about it in which she responds by throwing an absolute shitfit. Recently, she's been age regressing her "sonas" to teenagers too, and then proceeding to draw porn of them despite being so unhinged whenever she calls someone out for even having a childish artstyle, calling them a pedophile while her art looks way more suspicious. She also lurks lolcow and spergs about it, laughing about how she's entertained by all the drama going on in the forums.

No. 632080

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Kek. Unless you have actual proof get your self-posting ass out of here lmfao

No. 632083

>She also lurks lolcow and spergs about it, laughing about how she's entertained by all the drama going on in the forums.

This sounds so narrative. Quit posting your best friend and confront her already. If you're feeling frogfish, leap.

No. 632104

At least bring your receipts before trying to get people shit talk your bestie you had a falling out with. God I wish the underage twitter faggots in this thread integrated for once.

No. 632112

Are you sure they're the same person?
I remember following them on Instagram way back when before they deleted the account and made a new one. This was before their first break up where they had stated that their s/o was their abuser.

If it really is them then wow that's some hardcore regression right there.

No. 632115

is ednyaroo a chick or a dude because "he/him lesbian" could mean anything at this point

No. 632119

>You will (not) have relativity

No. 632138

who is gonna read all this shit

No. 632163

Very late but OH GOD the trans one has my fucking name ewewewew

No. 632166

Just read the og post and apparently these are supposed to be reincarnated Satan and Jesus,They literally look like tumblerized human bubbleline ,how the fuck?

No. 632177

>>632166 Wow… that is some really bad designs then. I'm all for new intrepretations but all I see is some generic looking demon-thing and someone who has weird marks in the wrong places (they don't even look like scars, they look like giant pimples or something). If it's really supposed to be Jesus and Satan, there should be some imediate realization or at least some well placed clues. But maybe that's just me.

No. 632224

No it really is bad, the marks on her hands and feet should not look just like the "freckles" unless jesus got nailed in the face too.
If that anon hadn't said anything i would never have guessed it.

No. 632225

File: 1600343559716.jpg (124.29 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg)

This is from a commission made by Butch Hartman, Like how do you fuck up your own art

No. 632226

randy stair would be turning in his grave.

No. 632239

File: 1600345158255.jpg (522.74 KB, 1080x1071, DTIYS.jpg)

there's something about this dtiys that pisses me off but I can't put my finger on it. is it the colors, or am I just nitpicking?

No. 632252

Hartman does not draw the promo art of his shows, and all secondary characters from Danny Phantom were designed by Stephen Silver of Kim Possible fame

No. 632253


The face of the pink haired girl looks a bit weird but as a whole this doesn't look too bad? Just your average meyoco-ish clone.

No. 632270

not into the strong gray texture overlay and the 8-mouth

No. 632271

It's just a fucking boring picture to re-draw. And I personally don't care for the bold, harsh outline in combination with the muted soft colors of the rest of the drawing, I think it could do with slightly softer outline.

No. 632273

Big difference between a creator and a character designer. Butch may have created those characters but Stephen Silver was the one who actually designed the way they turned up in the animated shows.

No. 632277

But why the grey overlay and the only random nose shine

No. 632278

I think it's the colors. It feels like this artist heard “red and green” and “orange and blue” are complementary and never bothered learning color theory past that considering it's the almost the same saturation and lightness. It's “aesthetic”, sure, but it's muddier than Lavendertowne's shitty art.

No. 632294

Damn I used to follow this artist and it seems like her arts' become so boring lately. She has cute ideas but it feels like everything she does is for clout now. I unfollowed her when she started complaining about her posts flopping and Instagram hating her despite having 200k+ followers and 50k+ likes on average. Imagine being on top of the Instagram art community and still acting like you're oppressed. At least when small artists throw a shit fit over muh recognition they actually have a reason to

No. 632302

People averaging 1000+ likes per post complaining about muh algorithm are fucking insufferable. Like shit man what more do you want? Average artists who don't rely on F2F and like spamming struggle to get 100.

No. 632355

The mouth of the pink hair girl looks horrible. I dont mind the thick outline but it would probably look better if it was colored just like the other lines. Colors look very muted, brighter colors would look cuter I guess

No. 632454

is this that filipino fakeboi chiicake? or did "angel" just steal her art style
chii was sorta normal a couple of years ago did she have a tard meltdown or what

No. 632614

The whole thing looks like a halfassed sketch done in <30 minutes.

No. 632629

>Nuuuuu can’t you see how oppressed I am when I have a healthy amount of support plugged into me for every upload from people who don’t mind drawings that are compositionally boring and completely incompatible with convention prints?

No. 632635

Imagine having 200k followers and still wanting more clout and attention. Like when will you be satisfied??

No. 632694

File: 1600388195065.png (433.67 KB, 896x720, 13579111315171921.png)

>Like when will you be satisfied??
Anything less is a state of discontent for them. I don't get it either anon.

No. 632696

I don’t understand it either honestly….but ednyaroo is biologically female

Not sure if the pronouns can go either way considering the lesbian part

No. 632711

Anons, thoughts on revolocities?

I used to like their art, but their stuff is always so doodle-like. I rarely see artpieces from them that look like a finished work, not even the rendered ones.

No. 632713

I've noticed he comes up quite often in these threads with almost zero reply. I honestly expect either vendetta or self-post at this point.

No. 632718


meh rev isn't that milky as far as i know.

No. 632722

He can be plenty milky. Anyhow, in regards to your question I just don't care, his art is very one toned to me. In the time I knew about him he never really rendered anyway, and if he tried it would be all hard edges. I think his flat colored art is better, it's clearer with his sketchy lining style.

No. 632728


https://revolocities.tumblr.com/post/132777144066/concerning-some-issuesplease-read well, there's this, but its old milk.

all his male OCs look the same, bland, generic designs. i felt like i recalled some nsfw of a young looking character, but when i went looking i couldn't find it, so take it wtih a huge grain of salt.

No. 632729

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sage for doublepost, found it. he literally calls the character a 'troublesome child' in the caption. this has since been deleted, but i found it on an archive here as well as some characters from yowamushi pedal that look young, but im not sure if that's just the art style. spoilered for gross.


No. 632732

Didn't he draw those when he was a minor himself?

No. 632734

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Didn't this artist used to have a Webtoon? It was posted on the media thread

She took it down after the first chapter despite getting a few thousand subscribers off the bat, but I remember an old ask where she said she gets discouraged when she doesn't get support, pic related from her ask highlight

Was she expecting Lore Olympus levels of popularity right off the bat kek

No. 632735


its possible, but his age listed now is only '20+'. even if he was a minor, this is some shotabait shit.

No. 632736

Being 16/17 and drawing an obviously younger looking minor in sexual situations is not a good excuse, reason, or exception. It's gross all around.

No. 632737

It would be the same level of disgust if he were 13, 14 or 15 too.

No. 632738

Pretty sure that's just an old Karasu drawing, that was just his art style back then.

No. 632739

No. 632741


as if it wasnt already bad enough being a 'child', the character looks unhappy to be in those situations/ is being held by his hair/legs while beaten up/tied up, etc, so it potentially falls into non-con/abuse territory as well. just creepy.

No. 632742


Just his art style to call the character a child too?

No. 632743


Why do a bunch of artists who release Webtoons out of nowhere expect their comic to reach True Beauty/Lore Olympus popularity right on the go? It's fucking delusional

No. 632744

He actually does still call his character that, it's because of bratty personality. I personally find it hard to say if this is genuine pedo-shit or just him not being good at drawing when he was a teenager since all he draws are beefy men nowadays

No. 632756

haven't been keeping up with him but i remember hearing he had some beef in the utauloid some time back

No. 632759

he's like a narcissistic pedophile who only masturbates to pictures of himself

No. 632780

Him and his sister are both assholes

No. 632804

Does it bother you when artists start whining about not being able to draw what they truly want cos it doesn't get as many likes? Like, you CHOSE to draw a certain style for the clout, don't moan and be depressed about it and expect your followers to comfort you ffs

No. 632810

I think there's two types of artists like that - the whiners and the regretters.

I can't stand artists who constantly whine about needing to conform to a style, especially since they're the ones perpetuating it in the first place. These are the artists who make "How to become popular on Instagram" posts which just repreat "draw trends, consistent aesthetic" over and over again. To these types, I say grow the fuck up. You dug this grave, now lie in it

The other type complains because they've looked back on their art and realized how much they've stagnated for the sake of consistency. And I totally get it. Big artists are constantly telling smaller ones that they're not popular because their feed is messy and therefore their art is bad. Even if you think it's bullshit, it's easy to get influenced subconsciously. I think many artists, even if they don't follow trends, feel pressured to tone down their art because "art tip" Instagram accounts keep insisting so.

No. 632814

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Having every 3rd or 4th drawing be what you actually want doesn't hurt your numbers that much.
Just do it consistently and you can get away with anything not named drama.

No. 632816

I hate artists who are addicted to numbers, who keep doing stretches for more clout and more attention. Those are disgusting. They never even give out help or tips to smaller artists, it's like they're afraid that if they help other artists they'll steal their numbers or whatever.

No. 632817

It's not artists' fault that internet community art has become more conformist over time. Blame other contributing societal factors for that.

No. 632824

It’s no creators job to give tips or advice.

No. 632845

Internet clout isn't some sort of essential resource that needs to be shared. If internet artists don't care about helping small artists good for them lol

No. 632849

OT but damn that's a cute design. I like it. Thanks for the artist recommendation, inbred twitterfag.

Yes. If you want to draw something you ~truly~ like then you're better off just drawing as a hobby and getting your money elsewhere. It's much less stressful to have a regular paycheck coming in allowing you to focus on what you truly want with your art than draw commissions you hate just so you can scrape together this month's rent payment.

>To these types, I say grow the fuck up. You dug this grave, now lie in it
Amen. I'm especially pressed by these types, it doesn't matter if they're self-aware or not, once you buy into the trend and start feeding it yourself then you lose all rights to complain about it.

No. 632874

I was about to ignore this artist until anon mentioned they're at 200k. They have 240k at the time of typing this, which puts them at a higher following than Ethan Becker, Alphonso Dunn, Jen Bartel, Leslie Hung, Mohammed Agbadi, Ruan Jia AND Zephyo (Angela He). I fucking give up. What's even the point of putting effort into art if shit like this happens?

Small artists aren't a charity case that should be coddled. They should be learning how to do art on their own. There are plenty of resources. The only reason small artists might be salty a big artist isn't spoonfeeding them is because they want to be a skinwalker the way Cyarin does with Loish.

No. 632910

his character designs for umineko were ripped off from the gothic lolita buble

No. 632911

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>tfw your OC succeeds so hard that she outdoes your main content to the point where you can forget what people follow you for and get no backsass across the next 4 drawings.

No. 632948

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I find his art boring to look at because of how painfully bland his style got over time, but I admire his skills. His anatomy improved a lot over the years, and judging by the way his strokes look (plus how often he draws) you can tell he's able to draw whatever he pictures in his mind quickly and effortlessly, which is my goal as an artist tbh.

That being said, I can't help but enjoy his old art a lot more (pic related)

No. 632954

it's a drawing, get over it. imagine straight up saying children can't be attracted to other children.

No. 632997

no use trying to argue with purity anons, they love to bitch about anime porn (while ignoring actual crimes against children) because dumb minor drawing edgy shota/loli that they’ll eventually grow out of = PEDO IN THE MAKING!!!

No. 633004

what was it before?

No. 633008

I don't give a fuck about rev drawing kiddie shit when he was underage. Almost all artists draw shit with underage characters when they're in their teens.

The only thing I dislike about rev is how boring his art became and how sometimes he comes off as a narcissist asshole.

No. 633009


Beef in the Utauloid community? What happened there? I think I missed it.

No. 633012

He was 17, that's not a kid and there would be something really wrong if he was attracted to peole 13 or under, which i guess is what anons are seeing that character as since he calls it a kid. That being said he never drew anything like it again so i don't think it's enough to say he's a pedo but everyone has their opinion ig.

No. 633013

You sound retarded. No one said any of that. It's one thing to draw it, another to post it online and keep it up after you've grown up. Dumbass.

>while ignoring real crimes
lol. People can both be disgusted by fictional underage child porn and still report the real shit too. You sound like a retard with no life that can't actually multitask. As if us making a comment about how gross the underage art is allows some pedo in a van to drive off with tapes of real shit. Hahahahaha. Then you can us moralfags because your degeneracy is so low you're cool with lolicon.

OK champ.

People like you are why 4lung does the shit that he does.

No. 633014

*call us, oops

No. 633017

Oh yeah, because a 17 year old is a minor, he's still "vawid" in drawing 11 year olds in sexual situations. For sure /s

Fucking NEET degen virgins

No. 633019


rev's age wasn't listed on his tumblr at all, so i couldn't tell you. he just has '20+'on his twitter.

while i agree with you on both your replies, he did actually delete it from his tumblr. its not up anymore, thankfully. i just remembered seeing it years ago and avoiding him since, so i went looking in archives since anon was asking for drama on him.

No. 633020

>and how sometimes he comes off as a narcissist asshole.
It's not just sometimes, anon.

No. 633027

i really dislike how narcissistic he comes off. i'll admit his anatomy has gotten better over the years but good art =/ good personality. also anyone else notice his typical oc pairing include buff dude x guy with glasses?

in ref to the UTAU beef, he was taking some old voicebanks, tweaked them up and created new art for them. people got salty that he was doing that because a lot of the ones he was taking were ones that had been inactive for like a decade. idk if that's really milk worthy but that was the situation

No. 633029

those who hide their age as 20+ are usually 25-28

No. 633031

I'm glad he's seemed to stop doing the UTAU remake thing now. In addition to remaking the voicebanks, he would also remake the UTAUs' designs to better suit his preferences, which he claimed wasn't supposed to be disrespectful or claiming to be artistically superior but the fact all his fans would suck up to him in the replies and say "this is WAAAY better than the original!!!" combined with him generally being very full of himself just rubbed me the wrong way lol.

No. 633032

None of the previous anons but go cry to your twitter hugbox about it lmao. No matter how hard you stomp your feet and whine over it I won't give up my cute fictional cartoon shotas. Gonna go follow this artist for more and you can die mad about it.

No. 633036

Not any of the anons you were replying to but rev doesn't even draw in that style anymore. If you go to his page looking for shotas you'll be sorely disappointed. He only draws buff dudes now.

No. 633040

Fuck. Why are all the anons so pressed then? Who the fuck cares if someone draws shotas and even more when it's been years since the artist has even drawn them? What the hell?

No. 633044

Ahh I understand why people would have issue with that now. I wasn't into UTAU so I didn't understand the fuss but redesigning characters to better suit your preferences is a little disrespectful to the original creator I feel?

No. 633045

whoops meant to reply to 633031, my bad

No. 633049

I remember then this happened since I was a bit of an UTAU fag and was following him. Some of the designs he made were nice but others were just clearly designed to be appealing to his own tastes. Others were flat out bland.

His fans on the other hand were obnoxious as fuck and kiss his ass all day going on about how his designs should be the official ones because they're SO better yadda yadda.

Revolocities is clearly a skilled artist and his UTAU covers are pretty good, but he's so full of himself and his fans kiss his ass so much I just can't be bothered to follow him anymore.

No. 633061

I had to check out Revolocities because I remembered someone bringing him up before in passing and jesus it really sounds like some salty vendetta. Found nothing worth of milk and he's a pretty talented guy especially when it comes to poses and strokes sans the occasional signature twitter virtue signaling, all his tweets are pretty nice/neutral in tone and I couldn't find any signs of narcissism. Imagine being such a jealous little bitch that you think someone needs to be cancelled because they drew edgy shotas 8 years ago, can't fucking relate to that level of pitiful autism.

No. 633065

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lol I'm sure this is going to end just fine

No. 633072

In this economy? Ok bitch. Where does she even live??

No. 633075

I think she just moved from London to Portugal to be with her bf
Maybe she's lucky and he will pay for everything in the future lol

No. 633078

Stay delusional. I tried it and it sucks ass with so much competitions nowadays. You have to be really talented and need to have a concept before going into something like that.

No. 633080

Yeah, you care so much, that's why you harrass and threaten people whose been molested or sexually assaulted for using art as therapy, and mass reported ao3 to the fbi, to the point where they begged people to stop because it was clogging up their system and preventing them from helping real kids and teens who are actually being hurt.

No. 633081

I would argue that not even talent is required.

No. 633086

>mass reporting ao3 fics to the FBI
Do twitterfags like, not have hobbies anymore? What's with the obsession with calling anything CP?

No. 633092

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It started on tumblr, no suprise. But yeah, complaining about this shit is so fucking supid because people aren't gonna suddenly turn into pedophiles because of fanfiction and there i literally no single effective way of censoring wrong shit, without fucking up the whole system.

No. 633097

A combination of competitive moral puritanism, mental illness, social ineptitude, inability to tell the difference between a fictional medium and a real-life occurrence, attempting to cope with the fact that they like the media, in many cases, and a struggle to gain attention online because they don't get it in real life. "I'm protecting children!" is their attempt to justify it to themselves.

No. 633117

None of them legitimately think it's "CP". None. Even this bitch starting that revolocities shit here is only using it as a crutch to carry on her fandom war vendetta for this artist. If you look real close it's always used as a mean to defame someone. For whatever reason they never use that energy to flag the blatant MAPs (like they were hard to find right) but instead it's always some famous artist or a person they had a personal beef with drawing "sexualized minors" i.e. Naruto and Sasuke fucking or "groomed minors" because they replied to a 17-year old's tweet. And it's always the people who compete for the same audience. And more often than not the person starting the callout turns out to be just as much of a fucking degenerate as the person the were attacking in the first place.

To be blunt people shouldn't play by their rules and start explaining the ins and outs of using art as a coping mechanism or try to reason with them at all, that just gives them validation that their spergy, demented crusade stands on solid ground. Call them out for what they are, crazy people being mad that people drew their NOTP or nsfw art of their pecious kinnie comfort character, drama mongers who thought they'd get a few retweets and a power trip out of calling someone the P word and having their armies dogpile on them, those who want to cover their own pedo asses or those who are simply unable to distinct fiction from reality. Take your pick but don't fucking reason with them, it's a waste of time.

inb4 "B-BUT I REPORT IRL PEDOS AS WELL" lmfao sure you do. I bet you spend all that precious energy hunting for pedos online and calling them out for sending dick pics to 12-year olds instead of just shit talking some twitter artist whose art made you uncomfortable and instead of blocking them you chose to fuck them over because your twitter brigade gives you golden stars for igniting outrage.

No. 633133

hey rev(hi cow)

No. 633140


Considering your reply you probs took a quick look at his profile and read like 5 of his tweets to reach that conclusion.

Either that, or…

Hi Rev.(hi cow)

No. 633143


No. 633144

i also took a quick look at his twitter and don't see anything bad so please enlighten me

No. 633170

how many times are you going to go "hi cow"? just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they are the person in question.

No. 633173

>using art as a coping mechanism
Not that anon and i don't even agree with saying fanfiction and art of anime characters is cp but fuck off, actual pedos use this "but i'm twaumatized!" excuse to watch and post some vile shit with real children. And art can be therapeutic but no therapist will tell you to draw lolis or shota and put it online to cope.

No. 633184

Then call them out for being actual child abusers? You cunts constantly blur the lines between someone drawing dubious art and a child abuser. There are NSFW artists drawing lolishit that creep on actual kids and there are people who aggressively crusade against muh cartoon kiddy porn who get outed for pressuring 14-year olds to send nudes. There are NSFW artists drawing lolishit with shapely bodies and big tits and who would never touch real kids, then there are NSFW artists who draw teenage shonen characters fucking and don't even think about their ages. You clump them all together and you're the reason why now everyone needs to check if someone being called pedophile actually molested a kid or drew Bakugo and Deku kissing.

No. 633185

Why should someone who experienced sexual abuse or assault have to be held responsible for the existence of pedophiles just because they want to communicate their experience and its effects in their creations? Should everyone who endured abuse never tell the story of their experience because "a pedophile might jerk off to that!!1!! 1!!"?

No. 633189

> Should everyone who endured abuse never tell the story of their experience because "a pedophile might jerk off to that!!1!! 1!!"?
I remember when Twitter zoomers were trying to cancel Kikuo for drawing a comic about suffering through sexual abuse (The comic obviously was in Japanese so they couldn't even read it) as a child and the trauma it leaves you with, all because of this exact reason. Makes you wonder if they're projecting.

No. 633190

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>Ditching your job during her season.

No. 633191

vent comics are soooo rare. everything else is just loli porn bc it's hot. loli torture porn bc it's hot and utrageous. but i'm not here to decide if it's dangerous or not that's up to yall

No. 633192

Oh my god it doesnt take being revolocities to think everyones making a mountain of a molehill, as usual. Idgaf about him as a person i dont know shit anymore, but years ago I followed him when I joined twitter and liked his art style.
People started saying things like "ugh rvoloct**Es" you know and how hes sketchy, or even they just felt something off about him. Im confused why theres a sudden consensus to hate him with no reason, this is before anything shota-esque ever surfaced idk what you guys are talking about. I know at least one reason that came up was he drew suggestive art of pokemon characters or something, they didn't even have child bodies. Like sexy version of misty or some shit. I would have never guessed this is a problem until then. But I was new and naive so I unfollowed him. Still I always hada feeling it was simply an agenda because 1) they're jealous he's got clout/skill and 2) he's gay iirc. I remember people talking about how he "Sexualizes everything!!>!" and the buff guys being disgusting or something… It wsn't that bad to me, they were just being homophobic
Anyway i'm saying all this because that was among the first instances I noticed people doing this purity thing, and it was clearly for dumb reasons

No. 633193

Learn how to read, i don't give a shit if someone is drawing some shonen 14 yo anime character. I don't cancel or call out anyone for drawing loli or shota, i just block them, i'm calling out that shit excuse that actual pedos use so stop sperging.

When did i say they need to shut up and never speak of it or that they are the reason pedos exist???
There A TON of works that depict trauma in a way that doesn't sexualize and romanticize it. Having conversations about it is normal too, but no matter how you spin it drawing graphic nsfw of a kid character with the body of a child is completely unnecessary for dealing with trauma and is providing material for pedos.
I don't want these artists banned and cancelled, i just wish they owned up to it instead of hiding behind trauma as an excuse.

No. 633194

yeah lmao it's like the girlies are insecure with their sexuality and shame anyone who draws sexy dudes. being homophobic even in the process. they should just accept what makes their choochie tingle isn't bad. lmao

No. 633196

>>633173 I think you misinterpreted what >>633117 was saying thus beginning this whole dimension of the argument for no reason. She said "people shouldn't play by their rules and start explaining … that just gives them validation" "Take your pick but don't fucking reason with them" She was saying dont claim it's to cope even if it is or whatever, that's irrelevant. Most of this is over NOTPs, kinnies, drama jealousy and vendettas otherwise they would be after actual proven pedos too, and more so

No. 633199

I understand, and i agree with her that most of this "Ooo X drew bnha character porn they're a pedo! cancel them!" is just twitter failed artists trying to start drama over jealousy and such, but i've seen people use that trauma excuse to justify things involving real kids and teens and it really isn't a good coping mechanism. Just admit you like drawing X and ignore them like she said instead of trying to justify it with trauma.

No. 633207

Because people like you go full on sperg about it.

No. 633209

i'm still waiting for someone to explain why rev is an asshole or something. stop arguing.

No. 633210


Lol why are yall even getting worked up about this rev guy? This is an artist salt thread for fucks sake, if someone wants to complain about an artist then let'em. This is the place.

If yall are so bothered about some anons talking about rev's milk then fuck off, go wk somewhere else.

No. 633215

Agreed, I don't think that's the best way to cope but I also don't think it's necessarily a problem. Whether someone's an actual pedo depends on the person obviously.
Regardless of whether it's for "coping" or not, like anon said giving in to the discourse gives them more fuel. Because you're playing into their view and justifying it by trying to convince them. And you're spreading the issue with your username, which some people will always note you as bad without reserach. That's why if you get called out I think it's best to mostly ignore it and show you're not affected. It happened to my friend because ex-friends who resented her were spreading lies that she's a terf (lol). Although they called her silence proof, she did the right thing because it soon fizzled out. If she had argued with them it would go on forever and spread her name as someone problematic, letting them win essentially. Plus it's a bullshit fight to have in any case, don't entertain it

No. 633216


Rev is full of himself. His fans are asslickers and enable that behaviour. Community treats him like a god. The end.

No, nobody cares about his old shota drawings. Being angry over that is stupid.

Yes, at first glance Rev seems fine. But once you take a more careful look at his posts you can spot his narcissism showing. An example is the whole utauloid thing.

No. 633218

I just dont see why that's so milky but i should remember what board and thread im in lol

No. 633237

sage but honest to god who cares if his utahs or whatever arent up to your standards, or that his fans kiss his ass, you're describing like every popular online artist. If you're the same anon as >>633049 you even admitted to liking his stuff, the only "milk" is you find the designs "bland" but his fans disagree/overlook that for whatever reason. If hes got actual cow behavior give us receipts but right now I dont follow. dont even know what a utau is but this isn't milk it's just artist with clout shit, you sound more like a cow yourself for this agenda

No. 633242

honestly before this thread i knew him because of animal crossing art but now i took a better look at his art and i like it a lot. will add it to my art inspirations

No. 633249

Fuck off, there are plenty of people who use art to cope and putting it out online to share with others is for some people also cathartic and healing. This isn't just for CP but also for Rape, and abuse in general.

No. 633251

im pretty sure this anon bitching about revolowhatever is probably some jealous artist.

go cry about him on twitter. his art is fine and he's not milky. now let's get back to actual milk.

No. 633252

You don't get to decide which art and fanfic is used for therapy and how someone copes. As long as they don't touch real kids or hurt real people, it doesn't matter.

No. 633257

Show some motherfucking receipts of him being a narcissist. Your spergfest sounds like an autistic vendetta because you keep repeating this "h-he's full of himself and his fans are poopooheads!!" like a broken record with absolutely nothing to back it up. Sure this is an artist salt thread but we're not your personal army and this isn't twitter where you can just say "artist X is an asshole pass it on" and everyone will eat it up. This thread has enough boring vendettaposts as it is and the people posting them seem to be more cowish than the person they're so seething over.

No. 633263

What are these voices I've heard of a cartoon network animator talking about wanting to eat human meat/having a cannibalism fetish? Does any anon have info?

No. 633266

It was discussed in the previous thread or the one before that. Can't remember who it was though.

No. 633274

exactly, fucking thank you. honestly this discussion needs to stop, everyone said their part, there's nothing more to this unless they actually pull up screenshots and stop talking out of their ass.

can't remember the name either, but yeah you'll probably find them in the previous thread. honestly i think that whole thing was a joke and gullible kids just think everything is serious.

No. 633279

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Was it this one? i think some of her friends came out saying it was just a joke but it sure didn't seem like it

No. 633295

How can someone be so stupid that they think it's a good idea to tweet something like this publicly? Like even if it's just a joke, you should be able to anticipate that some people will take it the wrong way.

No. 633310

Even as a joke it doesn't seem that funny but either way just yikes

No. 633311

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the 'bent' art style looks 100x better

No. 633313

I know this isn't the Unpopular Opinions thread, but what exactly is wrong with anything she said?

No. 633314

I prefer the original one, myself. The bent one is too generic in my opinion.

No. 633315

Really? It honestly looks much worse. I feel like she's insulting that style.

No. 633316

The before is a lot better imo. It's more unique

No. 633317

Fr? I like the original better, to me it has way more character, originality and moodiness vs the remake which just feels like any other cutesy Instagram artist trying to appeal to the masses.

No. 633318

nah not at all, it looks very basic instagram-y, their usually style is a lot more unique and i like the colors.

anons love to act like everything is problematic these days.

No. 633319

It looks "prettier", but lost its charm and unique bits

No. 633320

I have to disagree, the original looks far more interesting. The bent style is cute but very generic and forgetable.

No. 633324

it doesn't. it the small nose is so fucking ugly. the artist knows how to use both traditional and digital art techniques in the original artstyle. i hope they'll keep it up and don't change for worse

No. 633325

People bury dead bodies and visit them for a reason anon.
Also where would you even get good meat? Retirement home people are already gross enough when they're living.

No. 633332

>>633279 I think this girl isn't smart enough to be let loose on the internet if she publicly admits of being someone that eats other people

>>633311 I like the left one more because it has an interesting choice of color than the right one because it looks really generic imo

No. 633351

Ah yes, I too would love to promote the unnecessary eating of human bodies. I can’t wait to donate my mommy/poppy/brother/sister/and significant other to such a great cause that will certainly help humanity. Screw organ donation/scientific endeavors, I just want to get a slice of my hubby’s buns without it being illegal

No. 633353


It's just completely stupid and demented. There isn't a shortage of meat or food in our planet. There is absolutely 0 need to eat people. We have problems with people not having enough money to buy food (and sometimes getting food to very rural and desert areas), which is why world hunger is still a thing, but that has 0 to do with a shortage of meat.

In addition, ensuring that your 'meat' comes from someone who is entirely consensual, willing, died of natural causes, healthy, and is in the right location for food harvesting is logistically a fucking nightmare if you actually wanted to make this into an industry/business. It's one thing to have a weird fucked up cannibal scheme set up with your weird cannibal friends. It's another to actually try to expand this and implement it. What guarantees your meat doesn't come from someone who didn't consent? Or worse someone who was killed for it?

On top that, it's just kind of fucked up to want to eat a person like genuinely see a psychiatrist.

No. 633355


If she's outside the major cities and splitting bills cost of living in Portugal can be pretty low, like <300€ a month, although even that seems quite high for someone like her to make so IDK

No. 633356

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>Guys I need donations to pay the next rent, please retweet.
>30 likes, 15 RTs.

No. 633496


who is this bitch? ive seen them posted a few times now but i have no idea what they've done other than be dumb.

No. 633499

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oh i finally see the "shit fetish" part lmao

No. 633509

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No. 633513

he called it a joke. probably is but the context is confusing to me. who is this character and why did he need to draw him in this way

No. 633518

Just your average clout chaser, nothing new from the art community tbh. She did a bunch of follow for follow stuff and now is probably shocked that no one actually likes her tweets. There was something about Qinni too but I forget the context of that.

No. 633549

Any character with short black hair and glasses can be assumed to be a self insert of his since that’s literally what he looks like irl

No. 633558

are we going to call it a joke or go deeper that he wants to be killed and shit himself while he is being killed?

No. 633566

DeePee's content is a special kind of ugly bad if you look it up, don't ask for me to upload one.
The real problem I have with her is that low follower artists feel the need to flock to her pyw threads instead of putting in actual (social) legwork to succeed.

No. 633568

imo I just think he was trying to be #edgy

No. 633575

I just checked her website and man, she can draw okay for children’s books but she is seriously lacking in professionalism. She is not ready.
She says she specializes in character designs, so I check out the character design portion of her portfolio and it’s all licensed characters?!
Does she mostly make money off of stickers?
I saw she sells an absolute ass ton of them, now on Earth can she afford that with a retail job and now freelancing.

No. 633579

isn't this so sad this person just learned how to copy art from others on paper?

No. 633580

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original art they copied

No. 633586

It's one of his yaoi OCs iirc. A lot of his yaoi stories involve yandere which is why a lot of his drawings of them have one or more of the characters bloodied up.

No. 633590

Yes, I never understood how people could consider this as their own “art” and why it was ever acceptable for them to let themselves aim so low… I guess they’re just hobbyists though and as long as they never claim to be able to work as an artist then goood for them, they can do whatever makes them happy I guess

No. 633630

art study is how people improve fast tbf
but using the study as a landmark is quite dishonest

No. 633695

So when people talk about the insta algorithm hiding things… is that just whining or a thing? I'm an extreme nobody there and post very irregularly but I noticed that when I posted the last times I got most of my likes in like… the first 10-30 min after posting and then nothing. Now I realize my art my just not be that interesting to people and I'm not looking for reassurance it's just that something about it feels weird to me.

No. 633724

Isn't this a pretty obvious joke like they made in South Park about this exact thing? It's not like the blood and shit are drawn super graphically instead of just comically slapped on like you were doodling on a school textbook. I mean I could imagine myself making a joke like this if I made a dakimakura of someone lying down on their stomach and I find scat fetish legitimately repulsive. Unless he's systemically doing pics of people taking a crap then it's a weak reach.

Instagram algorithm works like other social media algorithms. The more interaction in a post, the bigger reach you get. That's why people post controversial clickbait. They get people riled up and commenting a lot and it bumps the post to the top, the algorithm also prioritizes accounts that you yourself often interact with by liking and commenting. You also need to post regularly with a consistent frequency (i.e. every day shouldn't turn into every other day) which is why people repost old content to keep their engagement flow secured. There are plenty of factors that affect your reach and there are many resources on how to grow your social media reach, but most of the time it's just about luck.

No. 633744

That makes sense, I've always figured maybe instagram has specifics to it that you'd need to know. I do like plenty (only art I genuinely like) but rarely comment and also don't post comment bait questions. But I can see that commenting would be more valuable as engagement compared to likes. Idk, there's something so undignified in reacting to other people's work, hoping that they'll notice you, it feels like groveling for scraps. It's like how do you beat that initial barrier until your posts get shared around? I think I'll try posting more regularly and getting transfers from people who like my art offline.

No. 633751

>Idk, there's something so undignified in reacting to other people's work, hoping that they'll notice you, it feels like groveling for scraps.
That's why I gave up on social media numbers and learned just to not care about them. It takes a toll on your soul to keep comment bombing everyone with "omg I love this!!! hear eyes emoji check out my work pls" around the clock just so maybe someone will click themselves into your profile and follow you. Also it's very much dependent on your luck, sometimes your piece might go viral by a coincidence and give you a massive boost.

No. 633829

>Unless he's systemically doing pics of people taking a crap then it's a weak reach.
exactly, people are once again looking to make up bullshit. i'm not even trying to wk this guy, if anyone has some legitimate milk on him i'll accept and point a finger and laugh at him as this site intends, but so far everything that has been brought up was complete weaksauce.

No. 633990

Her webtoon was discussed in the webtoon thread i believe. It still pisses me off how she just straight up removed 2 of her comics cuz she didnt think things through or "didnt get enough support"

No. 634207

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Congrats Stalker-kun Mclazy Artist, you're a third of the reason Shunao wants to be a shut-in now. I hope you're happy with yourself.

No. 634231

>fucks up her own social media presence and “career”
>d-did I mention I was harassed and abused? I’m such a victim, guys. Please kiss my ass and tell me I did nothing wrong.

No. 634236

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>tfw her simp friends will agree with her wrong decisions.

No. 634242

Wait, if her career as a commission artist is donezo how is she supposed to make a living in corona season? iirc she lives in NorCal.

No. 634258

Does anyone have any information on how people can pay for art commission? I want to start offering commissions, and I’d like todo the transaction via PayPal, but does this mean the client will see your full name? I’d preferably like them to only know my online name. Also would I have to make a business PayPal account?
I’m feeling incredibly out of my depth on the money side of things, anywhere I read online doesn’t really clearly answer what I’m concerned about. If anyone has links to good information or has personal experience With doing art commissions online I’m dying to know.
This has literally put my off doing commissions for years, and I know once I literally just do it, it will be fine.

No. 634260

She probably still gets some income through her online store. Iirc her parents are also quite well off.

If you start a business PayPal, only your business name will show up on invoices. It won’t show your full name.

No. 634339

Why did I only realize TODAY that’s it’s okay to copy other artist’s work to learn how to draw something??? (Not talking about posting it, just using it to learn.) I always knew using photo references was okay but I had an art teacher who said never to copy other artists because you’ll copy their mistakes, but I got this drawing book and copied some perspective drawings from it because that’s what I struggle with and I finally feel like I learned something. This might sound stupid to some people but it was a genuine mental barrier for me. Anyone else ever have this problem?

No. 634348

Anon, that's literally just what studies are. A lot of people do studies based on well-known artist's books, particularly Loomis' books. It's just that studies that are based on someone else's art aren't encouraged online because people will cry art theft or tracing.

No. 634392

I guess I didn’t make it clear but I wasn’t talking about tutorials, mostly finished art. It just seemed scummy for some reason but I found out it’s actually normal and now I feel dumb.

No. 634400

She didn’t quit I still see her on FFXIV and discord

No. 634401

Strange, I know she's left quite a bit of servers that belong to her mutuals. Mind telling me if she's still in the ones you see her in?

No. 634404

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I'm sorry but what's this shit going around saying that hashtags hide your posts? Is this true or are some big artists just talking out of their asses? Literally how can small accounts get followers and retweets without them?

No. 634405

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A 236 follower person succeeded pretty swimmingly thanks to a hashtag so I doubt using those would prevent the right people from seeing your stuff.

No. 634409

if you use more than 3-4 it counts as spam. You're better off using just one, frankly, and avoid generic ones like #artistsontwitter or something

No. 634414

I’m not close to her at all I think she forgot to remove me. All I can say is she’s been active since the twitlongers.

No. 634423

>I just sawed off any chance I had at being Shunao again and ever getting decent profits in this year where I need money now more than ever, let’s play this financial drain of a game.
>Let’s do this whilst knowing that my resume is a lose-lose scenario for any professional art job whether I disclude or include my convention artist career.

No. 634432

i'm convinced at this point it's just big accounts doing a scare tactic against small accounts from even having a chance

No. 634453

Hey farmers, my boyfriend just drew this piece and he is really looking for some critique. /ic/ is giving him a hard time, so I thought I'd bring this here to get a read on it since this is also a critique thread. What are your honest opinions on this drawing?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 634455

No. 634463

God fucking dammit.

No. 634468

This sounds whack, twitter relies on hashtags. I could imagine that if you go OTT with them it's bad because you look like a bot but this is terrible advice, tons of people browse and follow hashtags to find a type of post.

No. 634483

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Why try to learn different how to draw different faces, when you draw the same one over and over.

No. 634492

woah even the lips are exact same in everyone, impressive

No. 634494

this is definitely complete bullshit, maybe the links part is slightly believable, though twitter has in built ads so why would they care about that? but the hashtags part is absolutely retarded, they are just talking out of their stupid ass.

No. 634525

You know they would refuse to sell comics by confirmed terfs :D

No. 634530

While it's extremely obvious here, the majority of artists these days suffer from some form of sameface syndrome. It's very easy to develop when drawing in a simplified style like anime or cartoons. Not saying I excuse it, just that she's far from the only one.

No. 634546

Your teacher was right but you are also not wrong. You do replicate mistakes when you do that, but if you are not ONLY doing studies from others it's not bad. Master studies have been a thing for a long time.
If people actually credited the source and said they were studies, most of the issues wouldn't exist.

No. 634548

Does anyone know what the best ones to use are to get people to see your art? Should you only use the ones that are trending?

No. 634549

He stole his old style from a Japanese artist named urct/uracata back then. He caused her a lot of grief, I used to follow her back then and she made a few “call out” type posts about it at the time (in English) about how he would lie and say they’re friends and he made a lot of problems for her. Frankly I think he just has a shit personality, so I don’t like his art at all.
I remember back on tumblr someone sent him a fanart, a pixelated version of one of his drawings and he lost his shit on them, saying it was awful that they traced his work and he wasn’t appreciative of it at all. Ironically this was when he was straight up copying urct’s work.

No. 634565

Characters > tags
The safest pick is Smash Bros since that franchise has enough people to divide the community in half and not suffer for it.

No. 634568

Did you read the replies to rev's shit on this thread? You should post receipts to what you are saying, otherwise it sounds like a random opinion. Now anons will fucking infight about this shit all over again. He sounds like a narcissist,just like cyarine, but cyarine's anons actually show the milk. Just do the same anon.

No. 634576

whats the context for this

No. 634582

Convention artist accuses ex-friend of sexual assault in 2015 and never resolved the issue. News got there on August and she hid until now where she still avoids the matter in her suicide note that’ll turn her from Shunao to just Lyn.

No. 634584

Doesn't paypall also have a history of screwing sellers over and siding with the buyers? seems like an easy way to get stolen from.

No. 634588

As far as I know chargebacks used to happen but aren't as common right now. PayPal is one of the most used payment methods for commissions, a lot of people use it without ever having issues and I've seen instances where the seller wins a dispute when they have proper proof of transaction.

No. 634595

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>Mametchl flat out drops her and their mutual artist friendship.
Is Betadood gonna reach a tipping point soon? I don’t see those tweets in his likes and he hasn’t talked today.

No. 634608

Lmao paypal is used by everyone. What do you think is the best option then??

No. 634615

Yeah I gotta agree. I've found this happening with my art as well where some of my faces look the same and I'm trying to work on that lol.

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