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i got called for an interview with the ceo even though my application was terrible lol. this is my first proper job interview and i'm not sure how to prepare? it's next week.
idk what it'll be like to have a male boss. all my previous bosses have been female, and they have been wonderful.
Depends, if you know there's a lot of competition I'd suck it up and go. If your employer can't put two and two together and realize you might come of as less enthusiastic because of your cold he's dumb.
On the other hand asking to reschedule isn't inconsiderate of the employees' schedule at all, you can't help you caught a cold.
If you are going to go, make sure to let your interviewers know that you have a cold and don't shake their hands (just break the 4th wall and tell them "I would shake your hand but I caught a cold and don't want to get you sick")
if you don't, there is a good chance they will be able to tell you are sick… and if they realize you shook their hands etc and didnt tell them they will be disgusted…
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Starting to realize the awful truth—literally everything is luck and connections.
Three years ago, couldn’t get hired on as a receptionist in a big city even with a bachelors degree.
Moved, randomly asked an old acquaintance to vouch me for an admin job at her company. Now?
About to be promoted, move to my dream city and make twice my hourly wage.
Seriously. Stay in touch with people. Even if they’re not doing anything amazing right now they might be just what you need in he future. I was cashiering with this girl as a 20 year old. Stay connected. Seriously.
Please hang in there anon. After I graduated, I was desperately looking for almost two god damned years
before I finally got a break in my field. I thought about suicide all the time and even had a mental hospital stay. It's just fucking tough out there, so much competition. Try not to take it personal because I guarantee you're not the only one rejected for any given position.
I've only had short jobs, less than a year.
Good to know it's normal but I'm kinda bummed out bc I'm only going to be in this one for 8 months too. Hope I can somehow feel at ease before it ends so it doesn't become another awkward memory.
I love how you've put my exact thoughts into words. I felt what you feel on a visceral level.
I always feel so phony when I come up with this bs answers and wonder if the interviewer really believes that or just plays along. Why ask this shit?
Maybe for certain job positions it makes sense, but for the ones that I've worked at? No.
>>470493>Study fashion design and work on my cousin's store
Is that a guarantee from your cousin? Is it a plan for the future or is their store is already up and running and profitable? It's not the safest choice to study, so unless it's a passion of yours ideally it should be a sure thing. >Maybe study administration and open my own store
Starting your own business is hard mode, high likelihood of failure. I would recommend just getting normal, steady jobs before going on ambitious routes like that. Studying admin is a good idea for at least getting an office job though, and being bilingual can give you more options.
And I don't know if there's any particular reason you can't work part time while studying, but if you can make more than $100 a week in retail or fast food or whatever, you should do it.
>>470504>Is that a guarantee from your cousin? Is it a plan for the future or is their store is already up and running and profitable? It's not the safest choice to study, so unless it's a passion of yours ideally it should be a sure thing.
Its not really guaranteed but she did help me in the past (if she doesn't help me then i will just study administration), i discovered they don't really have a store but have a stable business with regular costumers as she lives from it. I guess fashion design it's kinda like illustration since its not really a safe choice unless you really like it, i like creating designs and dressing people up, also dresses are horrible here so that's an extra inspo.>Studying admin is a good idea for at least getting an office job though, and being bilingual can give you more options.
I think you're on the money , that's what everyone has told me actually, i have relatives that got office jobs after studying admin, and they also said being bilingual could get me very high since almost anyone does it and CEOs need someone to translate their products and shit.>I don't know if there's any particular reason you can't work part time while studying
I'm still trapped in this third world country so my only chance at earning dollars is by doing commissions to US citizens.
Thanks for the advice anon, have a nice day!
Would any waiter with several years of experience and two licenses actually apply to a $2/hr job like that?
Just try and apply anon, employers usually put crazy requirements like those but they are aware of the job market. It's basically just testing your resolution and confidence.
i have a variety of invisible chronic health problems (mostly mental but not all), one of which qualifies me for FMLA. i'm always using my limit of FMLA callouts and still have mild but constant attendance problems because of it; i'm never late, i just often call out sick. it's been like this my entire life, from when i was in school through every job i've had. i never take advantage of it (like call out just to be a lazy ass, or when i should have gotten pto instead, because im hungover etc). no matter how few hours i work, my work is always done on time, at or above expectations, and completed quickly if needed on-the-fly. actually, i'm notorious for taking on special projects and extra work for others on top of generally being the IT of the office.
i'm very lucky that my boss is extremely understanding (i've been pretty candid though nonspecific with him about my health problems) and we're a small, tight-knit department that is managed in a less "corporate" fashion. i get about a coaching a year because he has to based on our company's points-based system, and he always seems to feel bad that he has to write me up. i don't get any personal complaints or comments from him or my coworkers about my absences. he always encourages us to go home when sick and take time off when needed. PTO is essentially guaranteed, even if unpaid time.
despite that, i still feel guilty and bad whenever i do call out. like many others with invisible illnesses, i know i have a habit of invalidating the severity of my problems and feeling like i should just be able to work through it, which is a separate issue i'm working on. work-wise, how do i extricate this aspect of my work performance from my overall self-confidence? i'm not a "career is my life" person at all, but i'm excruciatingly type-A and it bothers me to have a glaring weakness or character flaw. the tight-knit and small nature of my department also makes me feel like my absences are especially noticeable to others; i don't care what they guess i'm absent for, i just don't like being known for something negative (being absent a lot, being sick).
how do i truly become someone who doesn't let their feelings about their job/work performance bleed into their off-work time? how do i compartmentalize those feelings to keep them on the clock?
>>470837>Playing games and putting shit tests up instead of just being fucking straight forward on what they want
Are American employers a bunch of little girls or something?
This is seriously behavior I expect from petty middle school girls. Not grown ass adults in positions of hiring people.
Most low skill jobs are sought by desperate young adults, if this was the case they sure suck at it because anytime I go shopping or dining most the employees are lazy ghetto fucks, and the hard-working overachieving type young adults who don't have a college degree yet are the ones struggling to find work
Back then it was as easy as making a simple resume, printing it out, handing it to different places, some places will hire you on the spot and others will interview you and hire, now most employers play the game of "put in your resume, we'll give you a call if you're a match" while expecting you to call them and not being clear, putting up ridiculous requirements they don't actually need and don't have anything to do with the job but not actually needing those just looking for a person with certain personality traits, the whole "we'll call you back" thing and either never calling or again expecting them to call, thinking employees should want to kill for their shitty position at a clothing store or else they don't want the job enough, not being straightforward with hiring and firing, etc.
It's just difficult and mentally exhausting what so many employers acting this immature just to avoid being straightforward because "muh muh opiod addicts"
those kinds of places want unquestioning wageslaves, of course they would pass up ambitious young adults. it's frustrating because you're one of the types they're trying to weed out. they don't want you, they want the type of person who will jump through ridiculous hoops and still want to show up the next day. it's not immature, but a calculated tactic esp if it's some huge corporate chain like Walmart.
people with any sort of ambition are better off picking up a skill and trying the skilled market. could be any skill and doesn't have to be related to your major if you go to uni. the more skills you have (or more valuable) the easier it is.
it seems to me that 99% of low skill college graduates get their first non-retail tier job thru networking. if you don't have a network, get a skill.
and I get it, it sucks to hear when you're just trying to figure out how to survive. but looking back, I wouldn't hire the me with low skill if I also had to consider people with good skills and/or good personalities.
thank you anon! i got called into a second interview, but totally bombed the technical test and kinda rambled due to nerves. i'm afraid my anxiety driven rambling made the ceo think i had the wrong impression of what the position entitles. the second interview was 100 times more embarrassing than my application kek.
i doubt i'll get the job, the second interview was really that terrible. on a positive note, this process has been a learning experience. and it's in the IT field!
Great job. Interview practice is always valuable no matter the method or result.
I also prepare my ass off before any interview so I'm barely nervous at all when I get there. I'll spend around 4-8 hours studying, making up my own tests, and most importantly, talking to myself out loud and rehearsing what I want to say to make myself sound cool, and what I think they would really like to hear.
The root of all confidence is competence, and you only get competence through DELIBERATE PRACTICE, by yourself or with others.
What really changed my perspective on interviews was that it's one of the only rare times in your entire life where you're ENCOURAGED to brag about yourself. Unfortunately, this is the same reason why many people don't like the process. Not because they don't want to brag, but because they don't have enough practice bragging lol
Despite that, always remember that IT'S YOUR SHOW, anon! Enjoy it!
Bring "props" (your portfolio information or a tablet, like I do), pick your "costume", tell informative stories related to your work, and crack a joke or two to get them to like you.
They don't like my show? Cool. Either I'm not the right fit for their environment, or I change up my "set" so I can have a better "show" next time.
I was in a psych class in college and my teacher discussed interviews. He said something that permanently influenced my approach to interviews to this day:
Most interviews actually aren't the best way of getting to know an eventual employee. Alot of it is bullshit and formalities.
But, getting them to LIKE you is just as important, if not slightly more important than how skilled you are.
Aside from being chosen for the job, everything else is under YOUR control. In a paradoxical way, that's liberating!
I hope you remember all this for your next time :)
Multiple ways, what kind of lab work are you thinking of? Labmonkey or god mode?
They are (for now) and if you're a labmonkey the highest paying trade leveled jobs for obvious reasons, if you're in godmode it pays ok, depends which company actually. Doctor labmonkeys tho…cashcashcash.
I work retail at the equivalent of about $14.50/h and get anywhere between 28-40 hours a week, which is pretty decent considering I have no real qualifications, but man.
I'm always on my feet and I'm so. fucking. tired. My legs always hurt, my back always hurts, I'm always clenching my jaw to the point where my back teeth have started to move because we have to deal with so much shit from customers. Me and my coworkers are busting our asses while our new manager throws our rota to us one day before the start of the working week and disappears to other stores in the chain for "training" while making almost twice what we make. Our company is like a cult, and I hate so many things about the "culture" they try to foster.
My hours are unpredictable so my social life is non-existent outside of holidays or if I get my two days off in a week together. Am I going to be in work for 7am after finishing at 10pm the night before? Are we going to know what hours we're working Monday on Saturday night? Who knows! I'm missing a halloween party and a friend's hen party this week because they "didn't have anyone else" and because I'm on a contract, I can't swap my shifts.
I know this sounds terrible, but my boyfriend is about to start making an absolute killing and has essentially said that he doesn't want me to ever worry about money… and honestly I'd do it. If I thought I could be financially secure by someone who genuinely WANTS to give me money, I'd do it. Probably not forever, but I'd even love to be able to go back to college and learn to do something I actually like instead of working retail for the rest of my life.
To have a break like that would be magical.
I've been working non-stop since I got through a lot of pretty bad mental health shit and college and I just jumped into the first job I could actually do. College didn't qualify me to do shit and I have no other applicable skills. I always tell people I'm happy with my job because I don't want to seem ungrateful, but I wish I could do something I loved and have enough money to do great things and buy my bf and mom nice things.
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oh my god, anon.. thank you so much. seriously, thank you for such a lovely response. i will def memorize all of this! it really warms my heart.
it has been a week since my interview and the ceo dude said that i'd hear from them in about two weeks. i just want to get a response (hopefully a positive one kek), so i can finally relax and focus on other things…..
i will speak it into to existence… i will get this job
I also recommend not waiting for his response at all and keep applying to more. You interviewed, but you're not officially hired yet. Another key of having confidence is having options ;)
You wouldn't believe how sick people are of this stupid gameshow.
I know you're all still young and trying to put a foot in the door, but call that bullshit out. Say what you really think about it. Keep it real. The older HR staff will gleefully hire you, the younger HR staff will remember you. And you'll help put a stop to this ineffective circus.
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Thanks but I want to be hired, not remembered.
"Wow they were cool. I wish we could hire them." lol
So many things in life feel like a gameshow. If that's the case, fuck it. Learn how to win.
Losers complain, but once you learn how to win, you magically start complaining less.
We already know life isn't fair. What are you going to do about it?
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Dat rare Tyler tho
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If anyone else wants to look for a job like this, try FlexJobs. For my field I have gotten as far as the phone interview stage, but didn't get a job.
>"Unfortunately we found someone else, but your profile is great! I'm sure someone will be lucky to have you!"
But I like the site. Really informative and generously affordable.
My tips depend on your job, I don't know if you've found one yet but if you're currently looking keep these in mind…>a short commute
People underestimate how much a short commute improves their lives and their happiness levels, travel time takes so much out of your day and adds stress because of traffic etc.>flexible hours
See if you can adjust your hours to suit your productivity levels. I work 7-3 because I get nothing done in the morning but can do a tonne with a big chunk of time in the afternoon. >work on your hobbies while at work
If you can get away with it, obviously. Maybe in your lunch break or once you settle in you can use your phone to research or learn things. I do language flashcards in my downtime for example.
Also just in general, unrelated to work but I use spreadsheets and daily/weekly/monthly to do lists so I don't forget or feel comfortable skipping my usual routine.
>>479786>you failed at Lush
Lmao, don't take it this way anon.
Retail jobs are stupid finicky and the hiring HR aren't exactly bright bulbs. You got a way better job at a Uni while you would've wasted time with Lush.
Lush gets 20 applicants, they can hire one. Don't beat yourself up for not being that ONE.
Funnily enough, I'm in the same situation as you with a university job with benefits but rejected from Mcdonalds lol
Literally just start half-assing your hobbies. Don't drop them because that sucks but you can't engross yourself in them anymore unfortunately
Adult life just SUCKS
Seriously apply anyway.
It's said that men apply for jobs that they don't meet all the requirements for, and women only apply for jobs where they do meet all the requirements.
You do not need to meet all the requirements of a job to get it. I will apply to any and every job where I meet at least 60% of the qualifications, and I have gotten a few of them.
Additionally, I recommend writing an awesome cover letter to go along with jobs that you do not have all the qualifications for. I've gotten a few callbacks based on my cover letter alone.
I have a generic one that I will tweak for each job.
Apply! You're given the opportunity, do it anyway. I apply to any job that I know I'm qualified for despite it asking for random requirements or preferences. Most of the stuff asking for years or months of previous experience doesn't really mean shit. There WILL be someone who's worked 2 years in the same field as you probably knows as much as someone who's worked there for 2 weeks. Also, most of the time after a few weeks, you just get comfortable knowing how your specific place works. I've applied to places that have ~preferred~ college degrees and I have none, only a year of college experience, and still have gotten an interview. As long as you have some experience, definitely apply. Don't underestimate yourself, anon!
Honestly I think having interviews should be seen in a more relaxed view. I've had plenty of interviews where I walked in and the interviewer was basically just setting me up for the job. It didn't even feel like an interview, but more like a rundown of what goes on during each day and they ask me if I'm comfortable doing it and what day I'd be able to come in for orientation. Maybe it's easier for me because the last few positions I've been hired on for are overnights lol.
The Taylor one is a direct copy paste from the lolcow OP!
Definitely ditch this website Anon. One lolcow is enough.
>>479955>It's said that men apply for jobs that they don't meet all the requirements for, and women only apply for jobs where they do meet all the requirements.
Yep. But honestly this is simply what I learned to do from multiple career blogs and forums.
I have a theory that there has been a trend of inflated job postings over the years, therefore there's no way anyone is 100% what the job posting is asking for. It's just their ideal preferences for a candidate. This really should be common knowledge by now.
You CAN get hired for being you, instead of being hired for performing a clown routine.
Guess what job will make you happier?
this is legit so true. My aunt has no complete university degree but managed to get a job at the european parliament through networking.
I'm currently getting a teaching degree but a part of me just wants to quit it all and ride on my aunts coattails.
Avoid: indeed & craigslist
Why: Craigslist is too scammy - never had a promising lead end up to be more than a scam to get my info. Indeed is just not user friendly, kind of a redirect site that feels like an endless loop of signing up for different job hunting sites.
Use: zip recruiter, Glassdoor, or go to the employers site directly.
Take this all with a grain of salt tho because I haven’t had the pleasure of job hunting for a while. Also, my employer uses zip recruiter to hire, but I haven’t used it personally.
I recommend what >>479995
said, but here is a cover letter that I wrote two years ago for a hair color company. I got an interview, and was offered the job but turned it down for another one. I will say that I remember their ad being really quirky, so I tailored my cover letter to it. So do know what job/industry you are applying to. For some jobs this cover letter would be a hard pass.
Dear Hiring Manager,
Fantasy, excitement, and ease of maintaining a creative color is what I see in XXXX, and is why I’m excited to apply for the Client Services Representative position! With my previous customer service experience, I have learned to engage customers by asking questions, listening to their needs, suggesting products, and helping them the best I can. Using these skills, I believe that I can help the XXXX team make the customer experience a magical one!
As I built relationships with customers as a XXXX at XXXX, I realized that not every dog, customer, or situation was the same, so I would need to come up with creative solutions. For example, a dog may be wiggly for their face. And I would then try singing, or comforting them, only to find that a dab of peanut butter on the nose was the solution!
Similarly, at XXXX, I also used my problem-solving skills to help customers. Often I would speak with customers who were stressed, and I empathized with them and ensured them that I was there to help.
Overall, I believe great customer service is a service that meets the customer's needs, while being friendly, and I wish to work with the XXXX team to provide that for their clients. I am excited for this opportunity and look forward to hearing from you.
Another one from a few years ago that got me an interview with no references even though they requested it upfront. I got another job and ended up declining the interview. I hope these help someone:
Dear XXXX Hiring Manager,
I was excited to see a part time Sales and Visual Merchandising position at XXXX. I know that XXXX is known for high quality products, and a great atmosphere. I would like to be apart of the team that provides that.
Currently, I am a full time college student at XXXX and I am majoring in XXXX. At my previous jobs I have learned customer service techniques such as engaging the customers by asking questions, listening to their needs, suggesting products, and helping them the best I can.
I have also always believed that if customers have a clean and visually appealing environment, they will be happier in the long run. When I worked at XXXX and XXXX, I worked hard to make sure things were as clean and neat as I could make them. I often got compliments from guests that ranged from, "This is the cleanest bathroom I've ever been in." to " It is so clean, it doesn't look like you groom dogs here.". So, I do take pride in maintaining the spaces I work in; and along with the customer service skills I've learned, I think I would be a great fit for this position and XXXX team.
For my current school schedule I have classes in the morning and afternoon. My last class ends at 1:50 PM, so I would be able to work anytime after that.
I look forward to speaking to you and thank you for considering my application.
You're an angel.
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I'm currently a receptionist at a foreign news company in my country. By the grace of whatever higher being, I was able to land this position after quitting my shitty retail job that I was suffering massive burnout from. I literally just wanted any sort of fucking office job that would give me stable hours, I didn't care for what company or what field. I'm lucky that our branch is very small and slow, so I spend most of my time on here or browsing through random stuff on the internet (no one cares as long as I answer the phone lol not that it rings more than like 3 times a day). It's only a temp position and only pays minimum wage but I accepted it because I needed office experience on my resume.
Currently, the news department is hiring… or they've been hiring for months but the head of the department hasn't found anyone he likes. I'm sort of close with some of my coworkers here and one of them told me about it and sent me the job posting, trying to see if I would be interested or not. I mean, I guess it would be nice to not have to worry and deal with job hunting when my time here is about to end, plus the commute is ultra convenient, and I pretty much know everyone who works here already. The downsides are it's the news department, which means sacrificing my soul to the news gods and never leaving the building. Also, I told myself months ago that I wouldn't want to stay because I didn't want to work this specific sort of company because of cultural differences and struggles (last company was from the same country and had the same cultural differences/standards that led me to burnout).
I don't even know if the head of the department would even consider hiring me because I have zero experience in news. I feel like I'm just sort of stuck. When I left my retail job, I told myself that I don't really care what company or what field I end up working in, as long as it would afford me stable hours so that I could come back and relax with my family and friends, but the news position would be the exact/near exact opposite of it lol. What do you think farmers? Is it worth trying for? Should I bother or should I just job hunt for a different position (mostly would be looking for admin assistant positions)
dumbass advice. news jobs are grueling hours and high pace and high stress. that's 100% the opposite of what anon wants. if retail burned her out, news will destroy her.
anon, figure out what you actually want and want to do (tbh you should have been doing this at your temp job). job seeking is so much easier when you have a clear plan or vision. taking anything and everything is unsustainable. you don't need a high ambition career plan, but unfocused searching just means you miss a bunch of opportunities & also basically start from the bottom at almost anyplace you end up.
Need to rant a bit. About two months ago, a coworker of mine was promoted manager. At first, I was happy for her because she's a great seller, but her behavior changed totally. She became very condescending towards regular employees (which other managers don't do), always spying on us to check if we follow the planning, giving orders while not really helping… She became particularly contemptful towards female employees, as if she views us as inferior because we didn't get a promotion. While being a great seller, she's not that good at the other positions (has no idea how the stock works, never went to any other store of the brand, bad at repairing products…), it's obvious she was promoted because of favoritism. She acts all cool with the other manager staff, so complaining would not be taken seriously. What pisses me off greatly is that before, she was super nice and friendly, I think she just showed her true colors with her new position (I should have guessed though, she's a huge Beyoncé fan).
Hopefully I'll get a new job in the near future finally related to my studies, I'm getting tired of all the coworkers I don't like.
Thank you for your input anons!
I'm still trying to think it over. It might be too naive/optimistic of me to assume that I might actually like it in the end or grow into it, but I'm still relatively fresh out of college and treating it one of baby's first real jobs. The job posting mostly described going through local news and finding stuff that local viewers back in my company's home country might like to know about, and I heard that they go to the UN quite often. It doesn't sound too crazy, but then again I imagine bigger US news corporations to be people running about chasing after the newest stories and whatnot. I'm going to try and speak with some of the people who work in the department if I get the chance!
I figure >>481840
does have a good point. They won't take me if they don't like me, and I won't have any hard feelings over it. They're desperate to fill in the position, but even of the few people I've seen called in for interviews, I haven't seen any of them hired, so they aren't willing to settle. At least I'll be able to leave/job hunt without thinking 'what if' if I get rejected by them. My coworker is encouraging me to do it for just a year to test it out.
Oops. I was despairing so much I didn't see a newer thread was available.
I'm going nuts. It's been 12 months since I've last done something full time. I can pretend it's not so humiliating by saying I graduated this July (technically), but I've been doing nothing since I relocated here with my bf. When I research I see expats taking 1+ years to find a job, and I haven't even landed an initial interview. I'd do anything at this point. Back to customer service, factory work, whatever. But since I don't speak the language the minimum wage easily obtainable jobs aren't within my reach.
It'll be christmas soon and I'll have to carefully and awkwardly explain over and over why I'm not employed yet, and it just sounds like a bunch of excuses. My friends back in my home country think I've just decided to stay unemployed and leech off my bf. They don't say it, but their questions and comments are becoming more pointed in that tone that implies "but are you actually trying though?". It's as if they haven't known me to be a fiercely independent person my whole life, and just think I've happily taken on this tradwife role. And they laugh about how I'm becoming a trophy gf, as if I don't very genuinely feel like I have no purpose and am a useless sack of shit for not contributing and having no objective purpose, day to day.
I feel judged. Judged when I need meds/a doctor and my bf pays, not benefitting him in any way. Just money lost for him. I feel judged by my and his family, and my friends. I feel incompetent because honestly, why, with quite a qualified and specific degree to an industry with lots of entry positions, has there not been a modicum of interest? Is there sloppiness in my CV? I've revised it plenty. Is there something wrong with me alone? Do I just come off as a child/stupid in every way?
I'll be starting an intensive language course soon, so at least I might be able to take the minimum wage jobs at some point. But I have 3 months until my job seeker permit runs out, I'm kicked out the country and will subsequently break up.
Hey anon, I'm in your boyfriends exact shoes at the moment. With gender roles reversed. My boyfriend is English and hasn't had a job in 1.5 years (only landing a few interviews).
I have to be honest, I genuinely don't think people judge you as hard as you think they do. This is shame and guilt that is making you feel this way. It's clear to me that you seek independence and you value you capabilities as a person. And this "failure" is making you question it.
I don't blame my boyfriend. It's hard for people speaking the language to get jobs, but 10x harder for foreigners. Even with qualifications and education.
And my friends have asked him similar questions and teased him about me being his "sugarmomma" but they don't genuinely think he is using me for that.
I would love to say don't be so hard on yourself and you would magically feel better but being unemployed for a long period of time is soul crushing.
I'm sure the language lessons will help you out! And if you need to occupy yourself I'd sign up for volunteer work like at short movie festivals or charities where English is acceptable. This will keep you on your feet while you look for jobs and maybe even land you a temporary contract to extend your permit with.
Welders, carpenters, plumbers, electricians all get paid extremely well where I lived around Europe.
Also amongst people who get a crazy salary are garbage collectors and communal sanitation workers (Street washers) but for obvious reasons not many want to do that job. Also street washers work at night and early morning so that also sucks.
My friend worked as a garbage collector for two years and he says you can make stupid amounts of money for not that much work.
Even in my third world hellhole those jobs are well valued and you would make more than someone with a degree and can even charge in $ cash rather than our devalued local coin.
Theres not always fancy jobs in tech and design and when they are you take whatever shit wage they offer so they don`t hire any of the the thousand over educated tryhards applying for the same position, but theres always a ton of people with broken ACS and with their gasoline tanks leaking so mechanics, plumbers, refrigerator technicians, welders they always do just fine, specially if you have good word of mouth on a wealthy neighborhood or in the corporate sector or have some friends with the many union mafias.
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I'm shitting my pants a little, since I need to give out references to get my offer. I don't mind doing it but man, I asked one of my old managers from an intership for a reference over Linkedin… but has only read my message for him with no reply. One of my other references hasn't read my message. It's been about 11 hours. I'm definitely panicking but it's slightly worrying since I really, really want this job.
Hey this person here, should I take this job? I've been unemployed nearly a year now and this is a ~2 month position doing some work behind the scenes of a clothes shop
Pros:>yay somebody wants me!>actually gaining money for once>financial cushion will help no matter what happens>fucking doing something with a purpose>the migration office may look upon me favourably and grant me an extension on my permit due to having been employed (the info I received was confusing. It won't change my current permit at all but it may possibly help me in my case applying for a different kind of permit)>could build a small social network other than my bf>might be easier to get relevant work if I've worked in the country before
Cons:>would have to cancel the language classes I had planned and would slow down progress significantly or stop it for that time>relevant job search may slow down>may prevent me from attending interviews for graduate jobs (unlikely)>will have to cancel my trip to see mom's side of the family for christmas>bf booked his flights to his home country so I'd spend christmas day alone in our flat
It's the christmas thing that gets me the most. Even the hypothetical of spending my christmas alone in a foreign country with no friends is getting me down. If I could get 24-26th off and blow a few hundred more euros getting a new flight I'd be much more on board with it. I thought this christmas would be magical, my cousin had a baby (first of the newest generation) that I wanted to spoil this year, and I convinced my mom to come with only for me to maybe pull out and say "oh, sorry not coming!".>>483290
thank you, that was an uplifting reply! Stuck now though. I did those exact things! Volunteered at an arts festival and for an environmental group, it really did help.
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Today I went in fully prepped for interview 2. I was so nervous and had been studying all night.
As soon as we sat down:
"Anon, we want to offer you the job."
I'm so fucking happy.
My first non-shitty job working at a big university with people who actually have degrees (while I do not) and are kind and passionate.
And an actual salary I can live on.
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It’s been a month and still nothing. I’m reapplying to the same companies that have rejected me twice before because it’s all that’s available. New Years funeral ftw
Thank you! >>485944
I'm the anon above who got hired at a university.
The skills that got me hired were being able to create static websites (limited to html css) and explaining why that would make me suitable for a position as pedagogic system administrator.
You can do anything you set your mind to, anon>>485924
I want to mention I was unemployed 7 months before I landed 2 jobs at the end of the year. I didn't even get a response back from 99% of all my applications.! I was ready to give up.
Everything is hard.
I say go for it! Worst thing that happens is you give up. Maybe you love it - maybe the person you called is a pussy - maybe it's totally normal job once you get used to it.
Bullshit. I'm an electrician (Canada) and I've seen plenty of female welders on jobsites.
Sign up anyways. This person is being super unprofessional by discouraging you.
Thank you anons for both your support and concerns! It means a lot. I'm going to see if I can still sign up. I did research online and it's nothing like hard construction work. It is physical to a degree but far from being an obstacle just because someone is a woman, so it did catch me off guard when I was told that.
Thank you once again. I would really hate it if I missed this opportunity.
Is this your first job? Don't be surprised if they make you leave as soon as the moment you hand in your resignation. You're not as irreplaceable as you think you are. Especially being a call center person.
So leave. Leave sooner. Based on what you've shared, no one cares anyway.
This question is another reason why you can't just walk in, say whatever "feels right to you :))))) #FuckCapitalism", and expect a red carpet to roll to your feet. Real life isn't a Mary-Sue fanfic.
You have to say what will most likely get you hired. This will vary by position, but the overall principle is the same.
It's a game.
Accept the game.
Learn the game.
Practice the game.
Play the game.
Win the game.
You can email them too, just say "Hello, my name is xxx I have just finished completing the application for x-position posted on xwebsitex.com and I noticed it said to send a resume to your email as well. If you need anymore information or questions please let me know, thank you!"
Usually that gets them interested.
OK, this is me in the vent thread just catching up to the concept of networking and not liking the idea at all. I'm socially incompetent and tbh also isolated since I live with my boyfriend who does have a job.
Anyway, networking is the way to go, and I received the email to say that the networking event I signed for has a place opened up and it's TOMORROW. I don't want to mess this up. What's acceptable wear? Can I just go up to people and start talking to them? won't they lose interest when they realise I have no job I could offer them? Do I have to have a super clear goal of what I want or just say I'm looking to go into X industry? Should I present a very specific skillset? Will I hand out my linkedin?
And how can I hide my disdain for the whole thing? Free food though, which is nice.
I fucking hate that too. I have a friend who works in tech and basically any time he's out, it's with his coworkers. Like, does a personal life truly exist in these fields?
I remember going on vacation in a larger city and hearing people at multiple shops saying they HATED workers from Amazon coming into their stores, calling them Amazombies because they're nonstop talking about work.
Make sure you solidify the mindset that when someone's acting shitty towards you they've had a bad time of it and have poor coping skills and take it out on you. Don't take personal responsibility for their feelings. Otherwise it can be very emotionally draining. Quite often I'd see girls running to the bathroom crying, and I'd say it's not worth it if you think it'll get to you like that.
But then again I was CS at a toy company around christmas, so emotions generally ran high and sometimes I could either "make" or "break" their kids christmas. What is it you'd be doing?
>>490864>any time he's out, it's with his coworkers. Like, does a personal life truly exist in these fields?
most of these people barely have friends outside of their job. it was described to me as a bunch of people who relocate to some tech hub, meet their coworkers who have also relocated alone and they just stick together instead of going through the process of making non-work friends in a new city where you don't know anyone. coupled with the fact that many are low-key spergs who could have work/life separation if they wanted to but their job topics are also their hobbies/special interests, etc. and the other fact that these companies love hiring fanboys bc it makes them easier to exploit into doing more work.
like, these are all nerds who have issues with social skills, probably have some hangups about normies, and want to make other nerd friends to sperg with. 99% of the time they'll find this in their coworkers.
short answer, yes a personal life is achievable, most of these people just don't want one.
t. tech adjacent and continuously amazed by how these people live
My main issue is that even if it's not really your thing, you're still expected to attend team building events/after hours work parties, and some companies do these weekly. If you don't look like you're a "team player" excited to hang out at a bar with your co-workers for 3-5 hours on a Friday night, it can actually affect your chances of getting promoted, or get you fired for not "fitting in with the culture."
There's no reason you can't enjoy your work or your co-workers, but being obligated to hang out with people on your off time or else your job could be in jeopardy is inherently unfair and should be the same as your employer asking you to work off the clock.
Is flexjobs worth the price? I want a part-time job and have advanced skills in very specific areas but if it's going to take months to find something then ehh I don't see this being worth it
Basically how is this site not scammy
Not sure if this will help you, but I always like to make a little review sheet for myself. I google up the most asked/typical interview questions and write down bullet points that I would like to say if that hiring manager asked me those questions. I don't write out full answers because I don't memorize things very well and don't want to sound like a robot, so at least remembering what points I want to touch upon helps. If you can find interview questions for that company on glassdoor, that's the best possible thing. I always practice saying out loud what I'd like to say since I realized that I will definitely stumble thinking out full answers on the spot and this helps normalize/helps my mouth remember how to say things the way I want to lol.
I also have a quick rundown of the company in there so I don't make a fool of myself lol. As for the test, I wish you the best of luck anon! I hope you get this job!!
Sorry for the late reply but IDK they haven't told me what it pertains just that there is a test!>>491439
Tysm! that's actually really helpful!!
>>491424>I don't want to wait months for a job
You sound entitled. A free site will never be as good as a paysite. This keeps out spammers and freeloaders.
The website isn't a job-producing machine. The best way to know if you will like it is to try it out yourself for a bit. You can even find partial search results without signing up at first.