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There is now an Azealia Banks thread in /snow/, keep discussions about her there: >>>/snow/771485
Grimes and Muskrat still fair game.
Latest milk:>>Ariana tattooed "BBQ grill" on her hand instead of 7 rings, receives backlash, cries about muh anxiety and how she's NEVER learning japanese AGAIN>>Liam Neeson admitted to wanting to murder a black person 40 years ago but never acted on it, now everyone's mad>>In a stunning tone deaf move, Meghan Markle wrote generic inspiring messages on bananas for sex workers>>BPDete manages to pull Kate Beckinsale with his magic horse dong
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I didn't see this mentioned last thread, but Terry Crews sort of not really defended Liam Neeson and now everyone wants to cancel him.
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What happened to Celine Dion though?
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People ~cancelled~ him before for these comments.
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Saw this scrolling through YouTube. I lightened the thumbnail because it’s dark but what the hell is that jawline? Also main dude looks Asian/half Asian (someone around here was wondering if she was going to suddenly be interested in Asian dudes)
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It sure is.
I would really love a Riverdale thread bc boy is that show a complete trainwreck. I look forward to my hatewatch every week.
he looks like he was punched in the face every day his whole life.>>369285
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who even cares, as long as it's topical.>>369305
when in doubt, attempt to pander to the gays I guess.
If he said his friend was brutally attacked by a dog, so he'd routinely go out with a weapon and wait for a stray dog, any stray dog, to approach him just so he could beat the shit out of it, a lot of people would be singing a very different tune from what they are now.
In the same vein, if he said he used to be a raging incel who concocted elaborate schemes on trapping and kidnapping women to assault them, but never actually went through with it and claimed to have become a different person, no woman would be wrong to think of him as an unstable creep and a dangerous person.
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Marco Pierre White jr has made a twat of himself again. Wondering how long before he gets his eyeballs tattooed or just plain ODs. What a hot mess.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6681833/Marco-Pierre-White-junior-arrested-smashing-windows-row-celebrity-chef-father.html
Nah, I wouldn't want to be around someone who at any point would rape/kidnap/kill/attack someone like me, let alone praise them for "changing" from a mindset they were psychotic to adopt in the first place, lmao. If that's how you want to live, whatever, but don't try and downplay others' justified distrust.
Also, if you weren't part of the group(s) targeted, you really have no right to say "Who cares?". It's not your life on the line.
Black Twitter "cancels" everybody for the slightest fucking thing if not in 100% agreement with them.
Worse that Knetizens.
And that's disgusting. People are right to decry it and cancel Polanski, in spite of apologists WKing him and other rapists.
Same goes for misogynists, racists, etc.
He said he went out 5 times wishing for a fight and then realized it was irrational and seeked help.
But he shouldn't have said anything, this kind of stuff is sjw's bread and butter.
>>369371>you really have no right to say "Who cares?". It's not your life on the line.
yours isn't either lol. Can't believe we still have sjws on lolcow.
said, he admitted it was wrong and irrational. He didn't go out and pick fights. He wished for a fight. He realized it's fucked up. He seeked help. No one got hurt. HE KNEW IT WAS WRONG AND SEEKED HELP. His only mistake is sharing this story tbh
>>369386>yours isn't either
Not everyone is your demographic, kek. Calm down and stop calling everyone an SJW for not agreeing with you.
I don't deal with ""reformed"" would-be rapists/incels or racist attackers, and many other people don't. Cope.
Were you a black dude living in the UK however many years ago in the same town Liam Neeson lived in? Do you think he's going to break into your house and beat you to death?
If black people want to hate him and think he's an awful person, I think that's perfectly justified. To be afraid and act like he's going to go full KKK and commit hate crimes at any moment is a little much.
You're starting to sound crazy. Who said any of that shit about the KKK or bursting into homes?>If black people want to hate him and think he's an awful person, I think that's perfectly justified.
Then we're on the same page, ffs. Go take a nap.
>>369400>taking things literally so you can call someone nuts after sperging out about shit nobody said
In the sense of being a black person, yes, I am not wrong to be threatened by that kind of shit, lmao. I have no reason to believe he'd never, ever slip back into that way of thinking the same way I don't trust men who talk about how they really wanted to rape people in the past.
If you can't comprehend that, you can't be helped. Just stop trying to silence justified disgust because you can't relate.
I don't know man. If people raised with implicit biases are racist,then all white people are racist and can't changed. What's the point in doing anything? I don't want to live in a world without no hope.
Is it wrong to believe people can change?
"I thought black people were a bit scary growing up and avoided them when I was little" is one thing, "I wanted to attack random black men and hoped they'd drunkenly go at me so I could literally murder one" is another ballpark entirely.
There's no really good reason to believe or trust that he's 100% changed if he could go that far. We'd have to look at records of his psych/therapist visits to see if they even delved into the racial aspect much, and I doubt that'll ever happen. Any black person who keeps away from him after that isn't in the wrong, IMO.
Exactly. I really want to believe the ones defending him aren't implicitly carrying on some "I mean, didn't we all want to kill a colored person at least once in our lives? Chill out, it's just a phase guys" nonsense, but with the way they seem incapable of empathizing on why something like this would be cause for alarm, I have to wonder.
Is this normal to them or something? A phase in puberty?
Then why didn't he keep an eye out for black men (or, preferably, any
men) who were harassing white women (or, preferably, any
women) to bash? Why just any random, drunk black guy on his way out of a bar who might've had one too many and thought this guy was mean-mugging him?
It's not justified or heroic, and this barely even counts as "men policing eachother". Just violent, selfish racism.
agreed, ive seen plenty of people saying it was actually understandable hed done that for revenge for his friend when it was obvious that he just saw it as an oppurtunity to kill a black guy.
I hate that so many people are making it seem like a "the sjws are at it again" when its genuinely concerning. It doesnt matter that it happened 40 years ago, because its the first weve heard of it, and most people didnt even see just how long ago it really was
I DO think people can change and glad neeson admitted to his mistakes and got help, but fuck. Id still be pretty fucking uncomfortable if I ever crossed his path in person.
I think what he admitted to is fucked up and wouldn't trust him either but I think you're off the mark here.
He's a Catholic who was raised in NI during the Troubles. He was excited by the chance to bash anyone, not just black men. Catholics were the lowest of the low during the Troubles, you could literally hack a Catholic to pieces in broad daylight and the police would shrug and say they probably had it coming. It's more likely he was excited to finally be the one doing the violence.
Reread:>It's not justified or heroic, and this barely even counts as "men policing eachother". Just violent, selfish racism.
No black person is wrong to not be okay with this, "honest" or not.
Because people like >>369431
are going on about "anyone, not just black men uwu" lmao.
Because my point is he was more salty about a black guy raping this girl than the rape itself. If he knew a white guy did it, he would have been sad for a week then moved on. In his mimd A evil black man raped a precious and innocent white woman and he was triggered
isn't posting shit like >In his mimd A evil black man raped a precious and innocent white woman and he was triggered
already race baiting?
Not even that anon, but what the fuck is wrong with you? Not liking people using the rape of women as a justification for racist, homicidal tendencies toward non-rapists means you must hate white women?
This is advanced racebait, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were some white scrote from /pol/ trying to jump in on this as an opportunity to build resentment. Pathetic.
>>369449>You hate white women
You're taking what u said our of context. The issue is he was more mad that the attacker was black than the rape. It's like those white guys who get triggered
hearing about Muslims attacking European women but only feel slightly upset/or don't care when a white guy does it. It's about another race of men "concurring" what they feel belongs to them…men are retarded like that.
Its not racebaiting if somoeone is literally just pointing out someone elses blatantly racist thought proccess
Anon was baiting by making a post that was essentially pitting two races against each other for no reason
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Ariana is so in love with herself lmao
Her chin is straight up anime tier
I will never understand some people's dedication to ugly, middle-aged/elderly men. They will go to the ends of the earth to downplay racism, misogyny and pedophilia if the person made some content. I used to think it was just a "men defending their own" thing until I read the nonsense in this thread.
I sure hope the anons in here are also rushing to defend incels with murderous, anti-woman thoughts, or I'll be forced to assume it's a "racists defending their own" thing.
The amount of men that aren't rich and powerful, that self-inserted and tried to empathize with these perverted celebrities really makes me mad. "I wouldn't want to be fired from my job because of some guilty-until-proven-innocent mentality, when I am innocent. So I have to give these dudes the benefit of the doubt too because there isn't hard evidence to prove the assaults."
While I understand the sentiment, normal people would never get "cancelled" like this over a serious criminal charge. Like, this doesn't happen. Anyone is fair game for getting dragged on Twitter for insensitive tweets and shit but you wouldn't get convicted for a rape allegation. Not even these dudes are actually getting convicted. They're getting blacklisted by some companies and fellow actors who probably have reason to dissociate. They probably witnessed some sketchy shit from these guys themselves.
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Being anti-lgbtq as in "i believe that marriage should be between a woman and a man" is not a crime.
I remember twitter getting triggered
by him tweeting about praying for his friend's health and a speech of his in which he thanked jesus being cut.
I guess being woke does not include being tolerant of religion or rather christianity…
There's plenty more homophobic shit going on in that church, plus one founder is a child molester (ironic) and another founder, his son, has covered it up. it definitely goes beyond "gay marriage is wrong," they think being gay is wrong, period, and used to advocate for conversion therapy
But none of this is unique to Hillsong, child abuse and homophobia is aplenty in all organized religion
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>>369651>>But none of this is unique to Hillsong, child abuse and homophobia is aplenty in all organized religion
Exactly! And on one hand the LGBT community wants to support and encourage free thinking, freedom of identity, beliefs and acceptance amongst everyone. Then twats like Ellen Page, someone who exclusively dated men until like 2010-2011, comes along and proclaims your welcome to have your own opinions, but only if they align with her own. To me this all just seems like she's trying to get publicity and approval from the LGBT community despite doing nothing to support the community herself. >>369668
Uh, what? How is only dating men = following a church led by homophobic known child abusers? And why is it so shocking to you that Ellen Page, who is LGBT, is against an anti-LGBT church? I think it's fine to speak out against things that go against your own beliefs…>>369685
She spoke out directly against Chris Pratt in response to him talking about a religious fast on Stephen Colbert's show, and as far as I can tell was implying that Colbert glossed over the fact that Hillsong is known to be anti-LGBT (which Colbert probably did not even know, he's likely just given prompts to discuss and why would he even bring that up?).
I think the main issue with Hillsong is that it appears to someone who doesn't know better that it's hip, cool, and modern (as evidenced by all of its celebrity members), but underneath it's just like any other church.
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Because Pratt is very open about his religion. He once hiked and erected up a giant wooden cross on a hill for Easter. He’s obnoxious.
And Ellen Page being in the closet years ago doesn’t mean she can’t call out homophobia, wtf anon?
So, shes a twat for speaking out about a popular church that has years of scandals and its openly anti-LGBT+. Gotcha.
Some people on here have just overused the word SJW to the point it's become a parody of itself, I swear.
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I listen to Anna Farris' (his ex-wife) podcast and she seems very normal as far as Hollywood goes, I don't think she's religious or anything at all. I wonder if him being super religious played a role in them splitting up? I also suspect him getting "hot" played a role as well.
I'd see this as obnoxious if it was posted on something that wasn't his personal instagram, and if the caption said "Daddy Pratt says: being gay is a sin, guys".
She should have named Hillsong, instead she just went after harmless ass Pratt like a cowardly asshole, probably cause they are a powerful organization and she wants the pity points w/o hard work. for all we know pratt doesn't know the pastor is evil and gave him the benefit of the doubt. He might be brainwashed.
poor little chris pratt how will he ever recover
kinda seems like she just saw the tweet in her timeline and replied to it, it's not that deep
From what I know, their son was born premature with complications and that is what Pratt cites as the reason why he’s so religious. Anna Faris is alleged to be an alcoholic and that led to their divorce.
Also he’s suddenly popular, famous guys usually dump their spouses once they make it big.
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People were mad about him tweeting someone he barely knows who had just had a massive heart attack with claims of prayer literally having healing properties, it wasn't a "pls pray 4 my
sick friend" tweet.
will people ever stop using "not a crime" as an argument? Chris Pratt isnt in jail, he got "called out" or whatever on twitter, he's fine. People are in their own right to voice their opinions on what they consider homophobic. >>369655
You dislike someone because as a lesbian they dislike gay people? traditionnal christianity (or any religion for that matter)is cancer.
I'm from a catholic family, very much into theology and have total respect for faith. However yes, TRADITIONAL christianity is
Also never claimed to be "open minded".
It's not like gay people suddenly started to hate on religion. Gay people have absolutely every right to hate on traditional christians after what's been done to them.
And did Chris Pratt ever say that gay people shouldn't have rights?
Only an absolutely tiny fraction of the female population are lesbians - meanwhile over 2 billion people worldwide are christians. You not liking that and thinking that this makes all of them stupid won't change that, you need to accept that.
And how very cute of you to state that anons here are only speaking out against you because they're lusting after him. That totally doesn't sound sexist at all… Believe it or not, but straight (christian) women do have brains of their own, they're not just controlled by their carnal needs mking them submit to men… (something you lesbians seem to love to assume)
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do you guys think Harry will divorce Meghan in a few years? She keeps doing stupid and embarrassing shit. It's clear that Harry was only thinking with his dick otherwise he wouldn't have gotten with someone so ill fitted to be royalty.
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OH MY GOD>>369840
Atheism is not a religion.
I know its not a religion, i misspoke.>>369953
if you live in a liberal bubble then being an atheist is no big deal, but are there any open atheists in public office? notice when zuckerberg was getting ready to run he suddenly started attending church and talking about finding religion? its because the general american public doesn't trust atheists. theres only been a handful of openly non-religious public officials.
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They look like a nice family.
Ah, so you're American. If you're speaking exclusively for America then you might want to clarify that, since anons were talking about religious numbers across the globe and you were commenting on 2 billion Christians. >>370220
Ariana's Japanese fans are hilarious. I forgot how common it is for big US acts to attract fanbases in Japan. Espicially pop/rnb divas.
>>370021>yes Americans are very loud and opinionated compared to the Brits. Nevermind royal Brits.
That’s a stereotype. Not denying that there aren’t any loud and obnoxious Americans because they do exist but not all of us are like that.
As an American, I get pretty annoyed at Brits who act like they’re better than us. America and its culture has plenty of problems but to act like Britain’s shit doesn’t stink is hilarious.
Don’t really know much about Meghan so I’m not gonna defend her.
I don't think he said have said anything in the interview about this to be fair, but there's definitely a sense of racial bias and discrimination when it happens. I had a close friend raped by a black man in high school and avoided then like the plague after. She didn't outright say she hates then but I could imagine Liam thought he was doing something right when he wasn't at all. He should have kept his mouth shut about that .
I only really feel bad for the woman involved. And the whole thing of victim blaming and how women can't be afraid of certain types of men after a rape.
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>kylie jenner threw a birthday party for stormi, which included a giant head molded after her daughter of which guests could walk through the mouth
literally what the fuck lol
>muh circus theme
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It's pretty fucking weird and it seems like it has something to do with Stormi's dad Travis Scott, because your baby's birthday party is just another chance for album branding.
>>370717>has a sex addiction
Sex addicts avoid their problems by seeking validation from a myriad of partners. One pretty girl won't fix all his problems within a short period of time after he goes cold turkey. In other words, if he is a sex addict, then he's been cheating since they started dating.
That's the equivalent of telling substance abusers they need to quit cold turkey while dangling their favourite drugs in their face when their motivation to quit is to receive the drug as reward at the end anyways.
Their common ancestor is from the 1300s.
Fuck i'm more closely related to a dozen American celebrities. For that matter, Markle is also related to 8 American presidents and a bunch of other celebs.
There was only 300-400 million humans on earth during the 1300s, so obviously all 8 billion current humans share many common ancestors.
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wtf happened to katy perry yikes
Didnt she have a mental breakdown last year? I feel really bad for her because in general I really like her music even though its generic pop.
Really hope she starts to feel better soon.
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She's stupid af
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what is happening with this outfit?
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Some fan accounts I used to follow a few years ago were speculating he was bi. Doesn't help when his wife looks like her dad.
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Ah, yes. The Barbie birthday cake look.
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It is vintage couture from the 90s. You can think it looks stupid and that’s fine but she didn’t pull this dress out of her ass.
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They almost look like a transman/transwoman couple here.
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Haven't seen this posted, saw on twitter that she tweeted this when Cardi won over Mac - obvs she deleted.
I said she's stupid because she got back with Offset after saying time and time again that it was over.
Should've clarified that, my bad. I actually like the dress lel
Did they not think that the Grammy’s invited his parents to represent for him? I think it would’ve been more disrespectful to not invite them.
Also I find it a bit humorous that Nicki didn’t even get a nomination kek. Her psycho fans have been harassing Cardi nonstop since she won. Not a fan of Cardi, but her album is the least boring and I think all of those songs have gone platinum. Out of all of the nominees I think she deserved it the most.
Fucking this. I don't doubt it would have been a little sad but she is milking that shit to be the victim. She put him in a song hence somewhat capitalizing on his death in a way.
Which brings me to my next point.
I cannot stand Taylor Swift, however I find it extremely unfair that she writes songs about her ex's (doesn't use names though)
and gets crucified for it as a crazy bitch, but this little twerp does it and even mentions them BY NAME and everyone is like omg wow what a bop! She's such an independent woman. You go Ariana!
Taylor Swift is probably just as fake but I've never heard a story of her mistreating fans or doing shady shit like mistreating staff and any scandals like the whole donut thing.
I swear Ari gets a free pass because she is cute. She's a very pretty girl, but it's obvious she's a nasty evil human inside.
Her latest song is about stealing someone's boyfriend. How nice can she be?
Also it's annoying how she sings about loving herself first ect when she's literally one of those women who are alllways in a relationship and incapable of being by themselves or they get bored.
She had broken up with Malcom BEFORE he died. She has no fucking right to sing about him. Imagine how his family feels. This bitch using him for revenue.
I did read that interpretation in the comments and kind of gathered from the video, but she's the type of girl to call herself bi for clout in my opinion. I feel the same about Bella Thorne.
Bella was on that gay magazine cover and bitched that she's 'lost roles uwu' over being bi and her latest instagram post is her being like hahaha I don't know how to talk to girls lol.
Bitch it's because you are straight as fuck. I bet her and Tana are doing this whole thing for attention and queer baiting because they know to 1-get the views and 2-fags love the crazy 'bad girl' types and will eat that shit up.
Sorry if questioning people's sexualities seems like a cunt move but I honestly feel like Ariana is as straight as they come, as is Bella Thorne.
dont be sorry because i agree with you and think most people feel the same way
i dont recall her ever mentioning being attracted to or dating females before this video
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Singer Céline Dion is seen on January 25, 2019, in Paris.https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/30/entertainment/celine-dion-thin/index.html
Céline Dion doesn't much care if you think she's lost too much weight.
Photos of the singer looking more svelte than she has before and rocking haute couture have been causing buzz that she's gotten too thin.
In a recent interview with The Sun's Dan Wootton, Dion brushed off the criticism. "If I like it, I don't want to talk about it," she said. "Don't bother. Don't take a picture."
Dion is now 50 years old and said she's playing with style to find looks that help her "feel attractive."
"I'm doing this for me," the singer said. "I want to feel strong, beautiful, feminine and sexy."https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/11/14/entertainment/celine-dion-clothing-line/index.html
Celine Dion isn't into gender conformity when it comes to raising her sons.https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2018/11/14/celine-dion-chloe-melas-gender-neutral-clothing-pkg-vpx.hln
I think it's just the weightloss though. If she put a bit of weight on, she'd look nice for her age.
Her actual skin looks nice, it's the scrawniness making her look older.
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Thanks for the heads up, anon! I have been following his antics for a couple of years now. A big part of the problem is that he is being coddled by the courts just as he has been coddled by his father.
Is he still with his third thot fiancee?
Has he called quits on his exclusive upscale sex toy line?
From the article you posted:
A source told the newspaper: 'His son has been living at the Rudloe for a while but it's highly stressful.
'He rows with everyone — his dad, his brother, the staff… he would row with the cat if there was one.'https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8284015/marco-pierre-white-jr-fine-racist-rant/
Marco Pierre White Jr fined after calling police niggers in racist rant while drunk in train station bar.
Marco was arrested after harassing bar staff at Paddington station in November and was fined £200 after being called 'shameful' by the judge.
THE son of celebrity chef Marco Pierre White racially abused cops while “drunk as a skunk” at a train station bar.
Former Big Brother contestant Marco Pierre White Jr, 23, said “fuck these niggers” as he was arrested.
Police were called after he and three women harassed bar staff at Paddington station in November.
Fining him £200, the judge called him “shameful” and rejected his claim he was rapping to a song with the n-word in it.
Pierre White, of Corsham, Wilts, slurred his words as he admitted drink and racial harassment charges at Hendon magistrates’ court, North London.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5758113/Marco-Pierre-White-Jr-admits-relapsed-hates-determined-drugs.html
Marco Pierre White Jr has admitted that he's relapsed after managing 48 days sober from drinks and drugs.
The 22-year-old model had previously revealed that he was going sober after his addiction resulted in him being hospitalised and he was coughing up blood.
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I feel like this is extremely rude to the designer. Not because "ree dogs are gross" but because the dog is being rough with the fabric.
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The pup even tries to bite it
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He proposed on Instagram because of course he did.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5720849/Marco-Pierre-White-Jr-gets-ENGAGED-Celebrity-Big-Brother-star-proposes-ex-girlfriend.html
He said: 'Got back with one of my exes, not Francesca, and I'm about to propose to her with a 1.5 carat Asprey diamond from 1920. Hope it goes well, wish me luck!'
The next clip saw Marco's mystery fiancée arrive home from work as he kept the camera on his own face, he added: 'Hey baby, how was work? Listen, I was thinking, will you spend the rest of your life with me? Seriously…'
'together for ever my new upgraded sexy kitten…new ring every five years we've agreed.'
Just because he didnt abuse Corey, doesnt mean he didnt abuse other kids. I actually had exacly this though too at first because of Corey and how outspoken he has been but there have been several charges against him. Until i began looking more into it, some of the shady shit that has went down
>>sleeping with underaged boys in his bed for several nights in a row, and having them in his hotel suites for days while touring>>switching them up as soon as they age out and reach puberty >>having a disneyland in his backyard, that just screams pedo to me>>all the charges against him from different boys>>a boy describing his erect penis in accurate detail(Jackson had vitiligo and distinct marks) and paying the boys over 20 million usd in hush money to avoid the court (and arrest)>>the erotica and porn found in his mansion, some of it being with naked pre pubecent children
And thats just the surface stuff.
There is also a new documentary coming out with two of his victim where they are gonna go into great detail about how he abused them for several years titled "Leaving Neverland"
And no boys have taken the accusations back, the only thing of that sort is two boys who defended him( actually the ones starring in the documentary) are now saying that he actually did it and they were frightened and brainwashed because of grooming, so they didnt dare speak up, which i can understand when you are up against such a powerful and rich american icon with a crazy rabid fanbase that worships him like a god and will stalk and harrass his victims both online and in the real world.
Someone made a very comprehensive post on reddit recently about this. It was removed from reddit but you can find it here: https://www.removeddit.com/r/unresolvedmysteries/comments/aoz4f2?sort=confidence
I thought he was innocent, too, until I read it. Guy was a pedo for sure.
Why the fuck was it deleted though?
tinfoil: Some mod is part of the MJ fan cult
This was posted a few hours ago
I know. Idk if it's because it had pictures of minors or what. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony or whoever sicced their lawyers on it though.
I didn't follow the show but Cardi fucking B won over DAYTONA? Wow utter garbage as always.
Amazing album, I'd say the best out of the Wyoming sessions w Kanye. Def my favorite of the year.
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Noah is 19 years old with that unmoving plastic surgery visage. She's got nowhere to go but down from here.
Your great anon.
I wanted to share this, a former special friend of MJ, who slept in his bed on numerous occasions alone with him, also the son of late John Lennon made a disturbing song with an equally disturbing video depicting MJ.
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I remember thinking she looked cute in these candids. This was less than two years ago. Her brain must be fried from the grooming René did to her.
She needs to stick with songs like Head Under Water.
This is awful
when you read the transcripts it's clear there was something fucked up going on there. Even the interview with Culkin, who defended MJ, yet spilled so much problematic
Even if you believe MJ didn't molest anyone, you gotta acknowledge he was clearly not right in the head to do other "legal" things with those boys. And knowing that those things are true, confirmed by many people and MJ himself… it's suddenly not that hard to believe he would molest children. Because stuff that is confirmed is very troubling. Like sleeping alone in the same bed or staying alone in the same hotel rooms, including himself in their plans, trips, dominating their time, talking on the phone for hours, love-bombing, buying expensive gifts… whatever your opinion is, this is grooming. Not "loving children uwu". There's no discussion here.
So it's really not that hard to believe.
This is so incredibly annoying. I know people will love it though because the gays will be screaming about how she's a "queen" and can do no wrong. This kind of music doesn't suit her voice. I feel like she's going to be another Madonna: dressed like a stripper, hanging around with younger celebrities and throwing out songs that were written by middle-aged men who think they know what the kidz
want well past retirement age.
If you can't separate the person from the art, there's so few people that you can enjoy anymore.
David Bowie, MJ, Ceelo Green, Miramax films, Rolf Harris…
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Nicki Minaj thinks that all black women are jealous and out to get her and it has nothing to do with defending and dating a rapist/murderer and claiming that the girl who was kidnapped and held at knife point was just some girl he slept with and the parents got mad.
I think he took a 13 yos virginity or something
Also everyone forgets but Jimmy page kidnapped and locked that same girl up. Not difficult for me to disregard much of the work men create tbh. I'm not crazy about any of it tbh. It's all overhyped
Ryan Adams Dangled Success. Women Say They Paid a Price.
Several women say Adams offered to jumpstart their music careers, then pursued them sexually and in some cases retaliated when they spurned him. He denies the claims.
In interviews, seven women and more than a dozen associates described a pattern of manipulative behavior in which Adams dangled career opportunities while simultaneously pursuing female artists for sex. In some cases, they said, he would turn domineering and vengeful, jerking away his offers of support when spurned, and subjecting women to emotional and verbal abuse, and harassment in texts and on social media. The accounts have been corroborated by family members or friends who were present at the time, as well as by correspondence from Adams reviewed by The New York Times.
From a teenager living in a small town to his ex-wife, the singer and actress Mandy Moore, these artists said Adams exploited and then stifled their ambitions. “Music was a point of control for him,” Moore said.
When Adams began corresponding online with a fan, Ava, in 2013, she was a 14-year-old bass player already forging a career.
But their correspondence about music turned into graphic texting. Eventually, Ava said, they conducted video calls on Skype, where Adams exposed himself during phone sex.
The Times has reviewed extensive communication between the two, including 3,217 text messages they exchanged over a nine-month period when Ava was 15 and 16. (The Times is identifying Ava, now 20, by her middle name because she was a minor during their online relationship. They never met in person.)
What always seems to be looked over with the MJ sleeps with kids thing is that part of the never land ranch/foundation had hospital beds for terminally ill make a wish foundation kids. They always had medical nurses on site, the beds were in a room with a built in theater and adjacent to the fun fair.
It's always overlooked that MJ set up so many worldwide charities like Heal The World etc. That he himself was a child abuse victim and used his fortune to be charitable and kind.
He had two rare skin diseases that causes skin discolouration like the models we celebrate today for being diverse. He used make up to even his skin tone to avoid the constant slander he would receive by the press. He was a very ill man and overworked himself to support so many people that came to rely on him.
He was naive and had an obsession with anime. He was essentially a giant weeb and people think he was trying to emulate a white person? He was obsessed with anime culture and also as a dancer was obsessed with form and ballet. Look at the Scream music video ffs that broke world records because he wanted to use cutting edge technology to live an anime fantasy lol.
The current allegations coming out in that documentary are by two people that have been proven to be fraudsters and liars before. He was investigated over a decade, subjected to humiliating horrible dehumanising medical examinations. He proved his innocence. A man as rich as MJ and hated by the press would not have success proving innocence if there were victims out there.
Children were never alone around him or in his bedrooms. There were bed bound kids invited with their families and specilists to events at neverland he would provide the environment that would allow them to have some joy before their short lives end.
Of course MJ got villinised. He was good, rich and put his power to charitable means.
Also the documentary coming out is essentially a cash grab. The MJ estate is being sued or investigated. I can't be arsed linking on my phone, but it's in the MJ estate that his name gets slandered and defamed so their outstanding lawsuits can reflect how little they initially valued his worth.
So in denial.
Read the evidence and the transcripts, even after MJ had kids he had a "special" friend who slept in his be alone with him.
He has begged and cried to parents to manipulate them to let their son slep in his be alone for days and weeks at a time, NEVER girls alone, ALWAYS cute little boys.
>>373463>Children were never alone around him or in his bedrooms. There were bed bound kids invited with their families and specilists to events at neverland he would provide the environment that would allow them to have some joy before their short lives end.
girl you've read some nice fairytale, but didn't care to look over actual case transcripts. Every interviewed kid (and I'm not talking accusers but those who defended Michael) admitted under oath that multiple times they were alone with him in his bedroom. Alone in hotel rooms. Alone in bed. Sleeping with him alone in his bed in his bedroom
ffs. Like you can't just erase that because it doesn't fit your cute little story about how big of an angel he had been.
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>>373463>What always seems to be looked over with the MJ sleeps with kids thing is that part of the never land ranch/foundation had hospital beds for terminally ill make a wish foundation kids. They always had medical nurses on site, the beds were in a room with a built in theater and adjacent to the fun fair.
Wow… So, because he helped some kids, its fine and acceptable for him to sleep alone for days at a time with them? After he was accused of child molestation several times? Even the ones trying to save his skin admit to sleeping alone in his bed.https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/michael-jackson-macaulay-culkin/
-Transcripts from a Macaulay Culkin(Q is Culkin)
>Q. Would it be safe to say that 90 percent of
the time you stayed there?>A. In his bedroom?>Q. Yes.>A. I don’t think it would be 90 percent. It
would be —>Q. 80 percent?>A. It would be — I slept in his room about as often as I fell asleep anywhere. Like, I fell asleep — I would flop down — we’d fall asleep in the movie theater. He has beds in the movie theater. I’d flop down and fall asleep there. I’ve fallen asleep in the video game machines before. I mean, I’ve — I would go and play there basically until I’d just run myself out, and I would just flop down wherever I needed to.
______________>Q. All right. Is there — was there at the time an alarm on his door going into his bedroom?
>A. There was like a walkway kind of thing where if somebody was approaching the door, it would kind of like “ding-dong, ding-dong.”
>Q. All right. Do you remember hearing any “ding-dongs, ding-dongs” as your father came into the room?
>A. When anyone would approach the room, yeah, you’d hear this kind of — soft kind of alarm, like “ding-dong” kind of thing.
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Quotes from Frank Cascio's book
"My Friend Michael
- An Ordinary Friendship with an Extraordinary Man"https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/2016/05/01/michael-jacksonfrankeddiedominic-jr-cascio-1993-2005/
> “Of course, Lisa Marie had to understand that in marrying Michael she was not signing on to a conventional life. But it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that she had no idea of how much time he actually spent with us, or if she did know that she had assumed his priorties would begin to shift once he was married.” ~ Frank Cascio
>“When they split up at the end of 1995, Michael claimed that one of the main reasons was that Lisa was jealous of us and the relationship he had with us. He preferred spending time with us to spending it with her.”~ Frank Cascio
>“Whether Bill intended it to be so or not, his verbal dressingdown of Eddie and me was a turning point in my life, a moment that instilled in me an early instinct to protect Michael and his reputation, even from his own actions, if necessary. We were the kids, it was true, but when it came to Michael’s impulses, sometimes we would have to be the adults. We had to think of the consequences to his image and reputation at all times, even when he didn’t.” ~ Frank Cascio
>” But when Michael came to town, I had another life. After school, my brother Eddie and I, and sometimes our younger brother Dominic, would go to the city, spend the night with Michael, then wake up early to be driven back to New Jersey in Michael’s car.” – Frank Cascio
In the letter Marie Nicole says:
"Dom, Angel, Frank were all your babies and since I am a girl I can’t be.
They get whatever they want whenever they want I can’t. Golf carts, quads, they all got to sleep with you and I never did. Face it I know I am not liked by you all. (Applehead club)"
Image of letter: https://mjandboys.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/nicole-letter.png
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>“It’s a weird story, but I didn’t touch him. We (Lennon & Ronson) used to watch the porn channel because we were like, 10 and ‘Oh my god (boobs)!’ So Michael was in bed. And me and Sean said,’Michael, do you want to see something cool?’ We turned the dial to the porn channel and there were strippers shaking their (boobs) around. We were like, ‘Michael, Michael, how cool is this?’ We turned around and he was cringing, saying,’Ooh stop it,stop it,ohh, it’s so silly.’ We were like,’Michael, you have to look, maybe your not seeing it right, it’s naked girls!’ He was not down with the program whatsoever! I think he had really strong feminist views on porn.” ~ Mark Ronson
>” I may have spent more time with him than almost anybody else.” ~ Sean Lennon
About a song he wrote about Michael with disturbing lyrics with an equally disturbing video ( video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxH8Bc0cHok
> “Um, I was there and the song is indeed strictly autobiographical. The point is that we (the kids), were all discarded when we were too old to play with, just like bubbles. The song is good. You just don’t get it. Bubbles was my friend and I will write what I want regardless of the opinion of twats ;). ” ~ Sean Lennon (On twitter, to MJ fanatics)
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In a Texas facility
He was just a few months old when they
Told him he was sold
They flew the primate pet
Upon a private jet
And off to Neverland where he
Met the impish man
Feasting on candy
And dressed like a dandy
Bubbles was treated
Like no other chimpanzee
Transported to a planet made of toys, bananas, and games
And Bubbles burst
We met in the arcade
Playing video games
We both could not believe it was
Like living in a dream
We didn’t understand
Dancing with Peter Pan
What would be the result when we
Turned into young adults"
Seriously, watch the video and keep these lyrics in mind, i feel this his way of saying what Michael did to him without being attacked by his fans and family.
Yeah I'd be interested in rereading the court transcripts again of his victims if you want.
Amazing how the fbi and court system seemed to miss all the evidence.
Sure thing, May take a while but i will start now, i'm passionate about these victims getting their justice.
And yes, its baffeling. But when your a rich famous megastar it seems you get away with everything, even the public.
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These posts are textbook examples of that MJ cult shit mentioned in the removeddit post, lmao.
I don't really see the sexual connotations in the video, it seems like >>373495
says, wanting to go back in time and in mj case not wanting to face reality. Still I do believe the possibilityof MJ having "special kids" to abuse, less know and maybe with shitty family relationships or just living in bad conditions.
So you didnt find it odd he was hiding under the sheets in a bed from Michael, being frightened, then when Michael whips out a banana, squirts milk on himself and licks a lollipop trying to entice the boy?
Him teaching him how to dance grabbing his crotch along the lyrics "We did not understand, dancing with peter pan" and after moonwalking him from behind up to his crotch and proceeding to pet him on the head for doing him weel along with the lyrics "what would be the result when we turned into young adults"
The two of them licking a lollipop together in a bathtub?
I think the bright claymotion part is symbolizing that the grooming was successful, and when the police shows up and him flying the ape and himself away from them into space is symbolizing that he got away with it and continued to groom and molest kids.
Also the heart around them in the last scene.
And the overall atmosphere being dark and in gray with disturbing instrumentals.
This is just my opinion though, he himself said that the meaning was different, but again TO ME i find it odd to include those very suggestive shots and grim lyrics to someone you had a great time with who never did anything atleast sexually undertoned to you.
But i do agree about him also feeling hurt about being abandoned, like he was just used and then thrown away after.
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MICHAEL JACKSON ACCUSERS RESUME:
I'd like to start of by saying that i got most of my resources from this page
some very hardworking people have compiled all this evidence: https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/
JAMES SAFECHUCK (1987-1992) https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/2016/11/13/michael-jackson-and-james-safechuck-1987-1992/
James met Michael Jackson during the filming of a Pepsi Commercial, in which the two of them worked together. This was in 1987, when James was nine years old
After finishing the Commercial, Jackson wanted to stay in contact with the 9-year-old boy. It was March 1987, when Jackson wrote a letter to James:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LETTER. IT WAS NICE HEARING FROM YOU AGAIN!
I’VE BEEN WORKING ON A NEW VIDEO FOR MY ALBUM AND HAVE BEEN REALLY BUSY.
IT WAS FUN WORKING WITH YOU ON THE PEPSI COMMERCIAL! MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AGAIN. I’D LIKE TO HAVE YOU COME AND VISIT ME ON THE SET SOMETIME OR WHEN I HAVE SOME FREE TIME YOU CAN COME TO MY HOUSE.
KEEP SENDING ME LETTERS! I LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU!
SPEAK WITH YOU SOON, MICHAEL JACKSON"
After receiving the letter, James’ whole family was invited by Michael to have dinner with him at his home in Encino, California.
During this visit, Jackson gave the 9-year-old 700 dollars. His parents didn’t know about this present and as soon as they found out, they asked Jackson not to give James money. Then 28 year old Jackson answered that he could not help himself.
On Thanksgiving day, James and his family invited Jackson to their home. The meetings between the Safechuck family and Jackson became normal and regular.
During his many visits to the Hayvenhurst house, James would “hang out” with MJ in his bedroom and spend time with him in his music studio. Moreover, Jackson gave him a thriller jacket that he needed to give back a few years later.
The bond between Jackson and a 9-year-old boy grew so strong that MJ became a part of the Safechuck family and he would always visit them when he felt alone or lonely. According to James Safechuck, there was no molestation in 1987.
James joined the Bad Tour in June 1988 and travelled with Jackson until December, when the Bad Tour was finally finished in Japan. According to James, the first incident of sexual abuse occurred during the Paris portion of the Bad Tour in June 25-29, 1988.
After the first sexual molestation took place, James began sleeping in Michael’s bed on a regular basis until the Bad Tour ended. As James says, Jackson explained the sexual acts as a “way of showing love”. James, who was only 10 years old, believed him. On another occasion during the Bad Tour in 1988, Michael referred to this activity as “selling me some,” because Jackson would give James jewelry after he did this, as a “reward.”
In or about 1988, Michael and James even “married” with a wedding ring and a signed document. During every phone conversation they had, Jackson wanted to hear that James loves him. James also claims that Michael was paranoid about anybody finding out about the molestation and didn’t really trust James’ ability to stay quiet.
When James was 12 years old, Michael started a seperation phase with James, telling him that he would have other friends and that they would continue later on.
Jackson’s disinterest in Jimmy was also testified to by the French couple Philip Lemarque and Stella Marcroft. The couple worked for nine months as cooks at the Ranch. That’s what the couple stated on August 28, 1993:
>STELLA: Yes. [Jimmy Safechuck] was there very often, but then he got too old and stopped coming to the ranch.>PHILIP: He would call all the time, but Michael would say, “Tell him I’m not here.” Then he’d smile about it.
James Safechuck’s civil complaint + court documents:https://www.scribd.com/document/324761203/James-Safechuck-September-19-2016-Second-Amended-Complaint?campaign=VigLink&ad_group=xxc1xx&source=hp_affiliate&medium=affiliate
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MICHAEL JACKSON ACCUSERS RESUME PART 2:
I'd like to start of by saying that i got most of my resources from this page
some very hardworking people have compiled all this evidence: https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/
WADE ROBSON (1990-1997) https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/2016/05/06/wade-robson-michael-jackson/
-Wade Robson was a defender of Michael Jackson until 2013. In 2013, he firstly claimed that he was sexually abused by Michael from age 7 until age 14.
Wade won a dance contest at age 5. The prize was meeting Michael Jackson & when Jackson came to Australia during his Bad Tour, he met 5-year-old Wade Robson in his hotel suite.
Michael told the family that if they ever come to the US, they should look him up. He met Michael again in the Record one recording studios. Jackson invited the whole family to his ranch for the weekend, and it was then that Wade Robson became close to Jackson.
During the first weekend that the family stayed at the ranch, Wade stayed in Michael’s bed without his 10-year-old sister or his parents on the second night. Here the alleged abuse started. Wade stated that Michael molested him from day one.
The weekend after this weekend, the family again stayed at Neverland. Afterwards, Michael took Wade and his mother to Las Vegas & they visited Siegfried and Roy. The rest of the family was not with him (sister and father). During every night, Wade was molested by Jackson.
In Vegas, Wade’s mother was having a suite and Wade & Michael had one together. After this vacation,Wade and his family returned to Australia.
4 times in the next 2 years. Wade was always staying with Michael for a couple of weeks. Sometimes, Michael would even call Joy Robson (Wade’s mother), while they were in the US saying that she should bring Wade to him late at night.
When Wade stayed with Michael, Jackson motivated Wade to call him “Dad”. Jackson explained the sexual acts to Wade as “acts of love” and told the child that “he loves him”. Jackson added that no one would understand “their love”, because people are ignorant. Wade received the nickname “little one”, by his mentor Michael Jackson.
In 1991, when Wade was about 8 years old, the Robsons moved to the USA & he visited Neverland quite often. His parents wanted Wade to become really succesfull & everyone knows this more or less only works in America. (Wade was a dancer who worked with big profile names including Britney Spears, Usher, Justin Timberlake etc)
Wade & Michael also worked together. Wade appeared in MJ’s music videos ‘Black or White’, Jam’ & ‘Heal the world’.
The 8-year-old still shared Jackson’s bed until he was 14. During all those sleepovers, Jackson molested him. Their last sleepover was in 1997 when Robson was 14. While they were living in the US, Wade always visited Michael on his own, without his parents. He said that he spent 25 weekends at Neverland, aged 8-14. At the age of 14, Michael even sodomized Wade Robson, according to his complaint. After the anal sex, Wade’s molestation ended for whatever reasons.
When in 1993, the first child sex abuse claim was made, Wade says (now) that Michael manipulated him on the phone. He was at the time 11.
In court in 2005, Wade was 23, he was defending Michael, saying he never touched him in a sexual way. Wade was imperturbable in defending Michael. He was a big reason why Michael was found innocent in 2005. The court couldn’t bring him down. The court documents are now open to everyone, just look it up. The court tried to to make him uncertain by showing Wade some homoerotic books that were found in Neverland: https://www.mjfacts.com/was-child-pornography-found-in-michael-jacksons-home/
>Wade: “It seems more loving in a way, like not so much about sex.”
_________________________________________>Court: “Is it a fact, as you look through that book, what is depicted throughout that book are series of photographs two men engaged in sex acts with one another?”
>Court: “And in fact, the sex acts are all acts, of either mastrubation, oral sex, or sodomy, is that right?”
>Wade:”From what I saw, yes.”
>Court: “And sodomy, as you understand, is an act of anal sex, is that correct?”
>Court: “Would you be concerned about a person who possesses that book, crawling into bed with a 10-year-old boy?”
>Wade: “Yeah, I guess so.”
>Court: “Is it true, Mr.Robson, that all of the pictures in the book are of boys, about the same age?”
>Court: “10, 11, 12 years old?”
>Court: “And that many of the photographs, if not most most of the photographs, depicted in that book are of boys nude(naked); is that correct?”
>Court: “And in fact, in most of those pictures, the genitalia is prominently displayed; is that right?”
>Court: “Would you be concerned about having your 12-year-old child in bed with a person who possesses a book like that?”
>Court: “You would have no such concern?”
>Wade: “No. It’s to me not a pornographic book. It’s sort of-I don’t know, just a book.”
Wade being analyzed by an expert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ORrKcZsslk
Both Robson and Safechuck will be appearing in the documentary "Leaving Neverland" airing on HBO sometime in march
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MICHAEL JACKSON ACCUSERS RESUME PART 3:
I'd like to start of by saying that i got most of my resources from this page
some very hardworking people have compiled all this evidence: https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/
JORDAN CHANDLER (1992-1993) https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/jordan-chandler-michael-jackson-19921993/
-The FIRST accuser
He was the reason, why people started to wonder about Jackson’s friendships with young boys and he brought Michael Jackson his first huge scandal, it was (in 1993) 13-year-old Jordan (Jordy) Chandler.
It was May 1992, Michael Jackson met his later accuser Jordan Chandler who was 12 years old and a half at the time, at a car rental agency which was owned by the boy’s stepfather David Schwarz. David knew that Jordy was a big fan of Jackson and told Jackson: “You don’t have to pay for the car, just take this number & call Jordy.”
From May 1992 to January 1993, Jackson kept phone contact with the young boy. Jackson sometimes called Jordy 8-10 times a day and there was one conversation that took 3 hours. In this call, Michael talked about the things he liked, like video games or playing water fights & also about his Neverland Ranch. About Neverland, Jackson told the boy that he was having a zoo full of animals, a movie theater and golf carts. Jackson told the boy that he was having a zoo full of animals, a movie theater and golf carts. Later, Jackson started to talk about his famous friends. Jordy said that the main topic of their phone conversations was Neverland & that he dreamed about going there one day. Michael told the boy on the phone that Neverland is named after Peter Pan, because he is Peter Pan in his heart. While those conversations took place, MJ was on tour.
It was February 1993, Jordy and his family visited Neverland for the first time & during the visit, Jordy was not staying in Jackson’s room but in the guest area overnight. They were there for a weekend, as Jordy said. Jordy added that Michael took him and his sister to Toys-R-Us , while it was closed. Jackson allowed Jordy to take everything he wants. After that, Michael & Jordy also went to the Century City Apartment, where they were just playing video games & nothing special happend.
Their first trip together was to Las Vegas, where they stayed at the Mirage Hotel. As Jordy said, Michael had his room, Jordy had his own & his sister + mother shared one in the beginning at least. During one night, Michael put on the very scary movie the Exorcist, when Jordy’s mother and his sister were already sleeping. This was the first night, in which Jordy slept in Michael’s bed because he was scared & as Jordy stated: Nothing happend that night. The next morning, Jordy told his mum that he and Jackson shared a bed & June Chandler was really upset about that. MJ started to cry and convinced June that there is nothing wrong about the boy sharing his bed. The Las Vegas trip took 7 days & out of those 7 days, Jordy spent 2 or 3 nights with Michael. June Chandler allowed her now 13-year-old son to spend the night with Michael and so they did until the end of their relationship.
It was March 1993, the Chandlers visited Neverland again. Jordy spent the night in Michael’s bed, while his family was staying in guest rooms. The guest area was far away from Michael’s room. In one of those nights, Jordy claims that Michael searched body contact for the first time. As he said, Jackson leaned over & hugged him on the bed, while he said: “I love you, good night.”
According to Jordan’s claims, the molestation started then. It was March 1993, they flew to Florida, where Jordy claims, things would get more sexual than just kissing and hugging/cuddeling. Jackson grabbed his butt & Jackson started to kiss him with tongue, while doing this Jordy felt that the singer had an erection & he said to the 13-year-old as he went in the bathroom: (context of it): They shouldn’t be ashamed to be naked in front of each other.
In early May 1993, Jackson flew with the Chandlers to Monaco, to the World Music Awards. On this vacation, Jordy says things got even more worse. Jackson convinced the boy to take a bath with him, fully naked. Jackson masturbated the underage boy for the first time. He asked Jordy how it feels & when Jordy said that it feels good, Jackson went on doing it until the end. Jackson told Jordy a lot of times, to tell no one about what they were doing, because other people wouldn’t understand ‘their love’. Jordy told his psychiatrist Dr. Richard Gardner that Jackson told him about other boys who masturbated in front of him, including “a boy who went on the Bad tour” with him.
In late May 1993, Jordy said they were starting to have oral-sex. Furthermore, Jordy claimed that there was never an anal contact & he added that when he onced told MJ that he didn’t like a sexual act (kissing his ear), Jackson never did it again. Even though all of this took place, Jordy believed that Michael was a child himself or at least was at the same age as Jordy psychologically.
Michael also spent a lot of time in Jordy’s house with him doing homework etc. When Jackson once slept in Jordy’s room, a family member saw them cuddeling like a wife and a husband would do. Michael was again able to convince the family to let him do that.
It was June 1993, Jordan’s biological father Evan Chandler spoke for the first time with his ex-wife about his son and Michael Jackson. Evan told June that he believes Jordy is gay. June answered that she would have no problem with Jordy being gay. In Evan’s mind it was a confession that she knew Jordy and Michael had a sexual relationship and that she would have no problem with it (All that Glitters, page 55).
After that, Evan Chandler went to the lawyer Barry Rothman because he wanted to end the relationship between Jackson & the boy as fast as he could.
It was August 1993, a meeting between the lawyers on both sides, Jackson, Evan & Jordy Chandler took place. It was then, when it it was first mentioned to give the family millions of dollars if the Chandlers do not accuse Jackson. What did Jackson have to hide?
However, the Chandlers didn’t put Jackson on trial & they took the money in the end. But the case had gone public. Jackson defended himself & claimed that the boy is lying.
In December 1993, Jackson’s body was photographed by police men, because Jordy was able to describe Michael’s naked body, including Jackson’s penis.
AFTER THAT: Jackson was now 100% sure to pay millions of dollars, because he simply had to. A lot of evidence was speaking against him. Jordan alone received 15 million, each parent got 1 million dollars.https://www.mjfacts.com/resources/chandler-declaration.pdfhttps://www.mjfacts.com/psychiatric-interview-with-jordie-chandler/
(C is Chandler)
>P: “Most people would consider it sexual to sleep in bed with a person. How long was the time frame from the time you first saw him in the flesh, and the time you slept in bed with him?”
>C: “I don’t know.”
>P: “But it was in February when you started sleeping in the bed with him.”
>C: “Right, right. I’m really not even sure if it was in February, but – – ”
>P: “Okay, but phase two then was a short period.”
>P: “Maybe about a month, or less then a month?”
>C: “I don’t know.”
>P: “Okay, we’ll put that in as a question mark. Now what I want to know is in that phase, what kinds of things did you do with him, before you slept in bed with him?”
>C: “Well, we went to his Neverland.”
>C: “Who’s we?”
>C: “Me, my mother and Kelly, my sister, my half-sister.”
>P: “What happened there?”
>C: “Nothing happened. I slept in the guest area with my mother and Kelly, and Michael stayed in his room.”
>P: “How long were you at Neverland?”
>C: “I think for a weekend.”
>P: “Do you know if it was Friday or Saturday or Sunday? Was it two days or three days?”
>C: “I don’t know.”
>P: “What did you do?”
>C: “We went jet skiing on a small lake he has.”
>P: “What else did you do there?”
>C: “We saw the animals and played video games.”
>P: “You did those things with him?”
>P: “So these activities were with him? What other kind of activities did you do with him?”
>C: “We took golf cart rides.”
>P: “With Kelly and your mother?”
>C: “Occasionally, like, half and half. They would go off sometimes.”
>P: “Who’s they?”
>C: “My mother and Kelly.”
>P: “How many visits were there to Neverland in that time frame?”
>C: “I don’t remember.”
>P: “So we’re still in phase two now. Anything else besides the visits to Neverland in phase two?”
>C: “We may have gone to the Century City apartment.”
>P: “Who was with you?”
“Michael and I. I can’t remember if my mom (inaudible).”
“Then what happened? Is that the end of phase two? Were there calls during phase two?”
“Calls lasting three hours?”
“Yeah. Oh yeah, I just remembered. When we were at Neverland we went to Toys-R-Us, when it was closed. My sister and I could get anything we wanted.”
“They opened the store for him, is that it?”
“How much would you buy?”
“A lot. We got to take along shopping carts and fill them up.”
“Do you have any idea what the cost of that was?”
“What kinds of things did you get, do you remember?”
“Video games (inaudible).”
“Anything else in phase two?”
“Going back to phase one. I know you don’t have a record of the times he called you, but if
you could guess offhand the total number of telephone calls in phase one, what would you say it
was? Not only the three-hours calls, but the calls that were shorter as well, what would you
“I believe ten.”
“Now, let’s go into phase three.”
“Do you think phase three should be subdivided or would you just like to describe it as how things evolved?”
“I don’t really know because – – can we fill that question in later?”
“Phase three began, I would say, when we were on the trip to Las Vegas. We stayed at the Mirage Hotel.”
“On a trip, and to the best of your recollection that was when?”
“I can’t really remember. I think late February or so.”
“Okay, that was after the trip to Neverland, after the Toys-R-Us. In Century City, did anything special happen?”
“No, not that I can remember. We just played video games.”
“He had the video games there?”
“When you say we, who was we?”
“My mother, Kelly and I.”
“What happened in Las Vegas?”
“My mom and Kelly shared a room. Michael had his own room. It was a big suite.”
“Was Kelly in the same room with you?”
“No, with my mom, and I had my own room.”
“You had your room, Kelly and your Mom had a room, and Michael had a room.”
“Was it connected or in separate places? Was it one big suite?”
“It was a big suite, yeah.”
“Let’s see, one night – – “
“How long were you there?”
“I don’t know, maybe a week.”
“What happened that night?”
“After my mom and Kelly went to sleep, we went to watch the movie The Exorcist. We were in his room, in his bed. And when it was over I was scared, and he said, why don’t you just stay in here. And I did and nothing happened.”
“When you say you stayed in the room – – ”
“Stayed in the same bed.”
“Slept in the same bed?”
“When you slept in the same bed was there any physical contact?”
“Was it a big bed?”
“Yeah, I think so.”
“So there was no physical contact. What were your thoughts when he said let’s sleep in the same bed?”
“Well, I was scared, and I didn’t think anything was going to happen.”
“You were scared of him or scared of the movie?”
“The movie. So I said, ‘Okay, that’s fine.” It was like a regular slumber party.”
“Okay, is there anything else to say about that event?”
“Just simply that we talked about how they got the idea for The Exorcist. So the next morning, I was with my mom alone and – – ”
“Did your mother know that you had slept in bed with him?”
“Well, I’m getting to that. I said, ‘I slept with Michael in the same bed last night,’ and she said, ‘Well, just don’t do it again’.”
“Did she speak to Michael at all?”
“Well, I’ll get to that. So when I told Michael the news of the fact that she said don’t do that again – don’t sleep in the same bed – we were alone, Michael and I, and he burst out in tears and said, ‘She can’t set up barricades like that,’ and ‘Nothing could happen, it’s just a simple slumber
party type thing,’ and ‘There’s nothing wrong with it’.”
“He said, nothing will happen, there’s nothing wrong with it, and it’s like a slumber party?”
“Right. And so, he came – – I don’t remember if I was crying or not but he decided that he had to confront my mom with his feelings about what she said. What he told me he said, ‘There’s nothing wrong with it, you should allow it because it’s simple and fun and you shouldn’t set up barricades.’ And he got my mom feeling so guilty that she just broke down in tears and decided that, okay, I believe you. And Michael somehow got her to agree that there would be no further questions asked. And so from that point on I was in his bed till the end of our relationship.”
“So, are you saying from then on you were in his bed – – are you talking about the Las Vegas trip, or from then on all the time?”
“All the time.”
“You said to the best of your recollection the Las Vegas trip was one week. How many times did you sleep in his bed?”
“I’d say maybe two or three.”
“Okay, was there any physical contact?”
“Was there any undressing in front of you?”
“Did you undress in front of him?”
“Okay, alright that’s Las Vegas. Are we finished with Las Vegas? Is there anything else to say about Las Vegas?”
“No, that’s it.”
“Okay, bring me to the next step then.”
“Well, when we got back to L.A. our friendship was a lot more close than when we had left, and so we saw each other more. And we quite frequently went up to his ranch.”
“And each time you were there you would sleep in bed with him?”
“Yeah. And my mom and Kelly would stay in that same guest place.”
“And how far was that guest place from the room you slept in?”
“It was far, it was quite a lot. Know where the bathrooms are? From here to the bathrooms.”
[Jordie is describing the distance from the interview room to the bathrooms in the building in
which Dr. Gardner’s office is located.]
“That’s like a block away. It’s the equivalent of a city block.”
“No, it’s smaller than that.”
“Half a block away?”
“I can’t really remember, but that’s about right.”
“Okay, I would say that’s a few hundred feet.”
“Well, I don’t know, you should ask my mom.”
“It was in the same house?”
“It was in a different house?”
“Yeah. It was like a guest complex and they stayed in that room.”
“So it was a different building?”
“But Michael and I stayed in his room, which was in the main house.”
“So here we are in Neverland, and then what’s the next step?”
“Well, I slept in his bed there, and then each week we would go back up and it would kind of progress sleeping in bed, and I think one night we were sleeping in the bed, I think it was at Neverland, and he just leaned over and hugged me or something.”
“Okay, lets call that the end of phase two. Let’s call phase three sleeping in the same bed and nothing else. Alright?”
“We’ll call phase four: it was more physical contact.”
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Part 3 continued
“This is where it starts.”
“Where the physical contact started? When would you say that started to the best of your recollection?”
“When like what time?”
“What month? I mean Las Vegas, you said, was in early February sometime.”
“Las Vegas was more like later February.”
“Okay, late February. When was the first hug?”
“I don’t know.”
“Do you have any idea?”
“Was it before the summer of ’93?”
“I would think early May, middle May .”
“Somewhere in May ’93; that was the first hug? And that was while you were in bed?”
“Where were you at the time? Where was the bed – physical location?”
“Do you want me to describe what his room looked like?
“No, I’m wondering where the bed was. Were you at Neverland or were you in some city?”
“Oh, this was in Neverland. I think it may have been somewhere else but I’m almost positive it was Neverland.”
“Okay, and what happened then?”
“He hugged me and I thought nothing of it. I said, okay, whatever. And that was it and he continued that for a small amount of time.”
“How long would the hug last?”
“A quick hug and that was it.”
“And this was while in bed?”
“Yeah, and fully clothed.”
“And did you say anything?”
“I don’t remember, I think he said ‘I love you, good night,’ or something. I don’t know.”
“Did you push him away?”
“No. I just – I don’t think I hugged him back. I just said, ‘I love you, good night.’
“He said ‘I love you’?”
“I think so, I don’t know.”
“When you say ‘I love you,’ it can be said in many different ways. You understand, someone can say ‘I love you’ and their really saying I’m in love, and sometimes you can say ‘I love you’ as a friendly gesture without romantic feelings. What kind of a way did you say that? Were you saying it with romantic feelings or – – ?”
“Just friendly. It wasn’t a romantic love?”
“Okay, go ahead.”
“So after that hugging thing – – ”
“Are you describing now a beginning of a pattern of hugging?”
“Yes, like every time he would graduate to a new sexual act, we’d continue that and graduate some more.”
“Okay, what was the next step? So are you saying there was a lot of hugging, a lot of attempts to hug?”
“Did this happen in bed or under other circumstances?”
“You know, I mean it was just a regular hug that if anybody saw it they wouldn’t think anything of it.”
“He did it in public situations?”
“Yeah, like a goodbye kind of hug.”
“Did you ever feel in those hugs that he was sexually aroused? You didn’t ever feel he had an erection or anything like that?”
“Okay, the next step.”
“I think he kissed me on the cheek, or something.”
“When did that occur?”
“I don’t know, around the same time.”
“Around the same time, so you’re talking about May – we’re still in May of ‘93. He kissed you on the cheek, under what circumstances? Were you in bed? Were you standing up? What were the circumstances?”
“I think we were in bed.”
“What kind of kiss was it?”
“Just a peck on the cheek. I think it was a goodnight peck on the cheek.”
“And then what happened?”
“And so he continued that as well as the hugging and then graduated to kissing me on the lips.”
“When did that occur as far as you know?”
“I don’t know.”
“Was it before the summer?”
“Is it correct to say it was June? Would that be reasonable?”
“I don’t know. I really don’t know.”
“But it was before the summer?”
“There are different kinds of kissing on the lips. What kind of a kiss was it?”
“Just a peck.”
“Was his mouth open or closed?”
“And how long did it last?”
“I don’t know, a second, I think.”
“Was this in bed?”
“And then the next step?”
“Next step, I think he graduated to like kissing me for a longer amount of time, you know.”
“On the lips?”
“Where was this? Where were most of these things happening? Was it Neverland? Was it mostly Neverland?”
“Were there other places other than Neverland where this was happening?”
“Yeah. At Century City, at the Hideout.”
“So primarily at Neverland and Century City Hideout? This Century City Hideout, I don’t think I have a clear picture of what it’s like, you said it’s in an area where people wouldn’t know there was a hideout there.”
“Well, there are many apartments around there – – ”
“Is Century City that name of a city around there?”
“You see, I’m from the east coast is all. Century City is part of Los Angeles?”
“Okay, so it’s really an apartment. Right? I get the picture. So it happened there and it happened in Neverland and Century City and in your mother’s house?”
“He was sleeping over at your mother’s house?”
“And when he’d sleep over at your mother’s house, he was in the room together with you?”
“I had my room.”
“And he would sleep in your room?”
“About how many occasions did he sleep in your room at your mother’s house?”
“I don’t know. My mom would know. I don’t.”
“I don’t know.”
“More than five times?”
“More than ten times would you say?”
“More than fifteen times?”
“I don’t know.”
“Twelve to fifteen would be a reasonable number?”
“It could be a whole lot more but that’s something my mom would have to say.”
“Okay, what we’re talking about now, is this is all before the summer?”
“I think so.”
“Okay, so then, we’re talking about kissing on your lips a long time.”
“And then one time he was kissing me on the lips for a longer amount of time – a peck on the lips – and he put his tongue in my mouth.”
“And what was your reaction to that?”
“I said, ‘Hey, I didn’t like that. Don’t do that again’.”
“And what did he say?”
“He started crying, much like when he tried to convince my mother to allow us to sleep in the same bed.”
“And what did he say?”
“He said there’s nothing wrong with it. He would get me to do things and convince me that the
things he was doing weren’t wrong, because he would talk about people who levitate, you know,
it was weird.”
“He would talk about people who what?”
“What does levitate mean to you?”
“Rise up from the ground by means of meditating.”
“And what did he say about levitation?”
“That the people who levitate are unconditioned. It’s confusing; it took me a long time to
“When you talk about unconditioned, what does that mean?”
“That they were not conditioned to believe that gravity existed, and I suppose that that meant that those who are unconditioned would find what Michael was doing was not wrong. Do you understand that?”
“Uh-huh. What else did he say to you?”
“He said, also, during phase one, the telephone phase, his cousin would go along with him on the tour. And I spoke to his cousin one time. We just said hello.”
“Was his cousin a boy or girl?”
“A boy about my age, eleven or twelve.”
“What was his cousin’s name?”
“His name is Tommy Jones; he was on the news if you’ve been watching, in defense of Michael.”
“Tommy Jones. He’s thirteen now?”
“I think – – no, I think he’s twelve.”
“And he went on the concerts?”
“On the tours.”
“On the tours. And he was on the news saying what?”
“He said, ‘I will admit that Michael and I are friends and we do sleep in the same bed, but Michael has never touched me,’ and, ‘it’s a really big bed’.”
“So he spoke about his cousin. And what did he say about Tommy Jones?”
“He said that, um, like, if he wanted me to do something with him, he would say that Tommy did that with him, so that I would do it. And, like, if I didn’t do it, then I didn’t love him as much as Tommy did.” [Jordie makes a heavy sigh.]
“Are you okay?”
“Okay, fine, you’re doing very nicely. You know, we’re going to take a break but let’s try to finish this and then we’ll take a break.”
“Do you think that Tommy Jones was lying when he went on television?”
“Why do you think he’s lying?”
“Because Michael told me they did.”
“Okay, but Michael said he did these things – – ”
“I mean it could be that Michael could be lying to me.”
“Somebody is lying. Right? Because Michael was lying to Tommy by saying the opposite things, right?”
“Yeah, well one of them is lying.”
“Who do you think is lying?”
“Why do you say that?”
“Because in public, when he’s with Tommy, they’re very close together physically and verbally and relationship-wise. And if one were to observe things in public, how they acted to each other, one would come to that conclusion, that it was more then just a friendly relationship.”
“Now, let’s go on. So that was the lip kissing. Then he cried – – ”
“He tries to make me feel guilty for – – ”
“And then what happened?”
“And then one time, when he was hugging me and kissing me, and he rubbed up against me. I don’t know if he had an erection or not. I can’t remember.”
“Now was this in bed or what?”
“Was this all before the summer?”
“I don’t remember. It may have gone into the summer.”
“So you took what as the next step? You’re talking about the gradual development; the next step was his rubbing against you?”
“With an erection.”
“I think he had an erection. As it graduated he did.”
“Then it graduated to where he had an erection and he would kiss me.”
“Kiss you where?”
“On my mouth. By the way, he never put his tongue in my mouth again once I told him not to.”
“What’s the next step?”
“Let’s see, I think the next step was, I had an erection and he rubbed up against me and that was it.”
“You had an erection and he rubbed himself against – – ?”
“And he did, he did as well.”
“Okay, and where was his erection and where was your erection? You both have an erection.”
“We were on top of each other.”
“That was it, and then it graduated to other stuff. Somewhere during that time we went to Florida.”
“When did you go to Florida?”
“I don’t know. My mom would know. [April 1993.] And there we stayed in the same room.”
“Where was your mother?”
“Same suite, different room, with Kelly.”
“What happened in Florida?”
“Several things happened. One, he grabbed my butt, put his tongue in my ear – – ”
“He grabbed your butt; was he forcing you?”
“No. Well, he was kissing me and he grabbed my butt.”
“It wasn’t forced?”
“But, um, and then the third thing was that he was walking to the bathroom to take a shower,
and he looked at me before he closed the door and he said, ‘I wish I didn’t have to do this,’ and he
shut the door, implying that he wished he could be so free as to be able to change in front of me.”
“Changing from what to what? I’m a little confused. You said he grabbed your butt – – ”
“There are three different things.”
“He grabbed your butt, put his tongue in your ear and walked into the bathroom and said, ‘I wish I didn’t have to do this.’
“Then he shut the door.”
“How long was he in the bathroom?”
“He took a shower, I don’t know.”
“Now, when he said ‘I wish I didn’t have to do this,’ what was he referring to?”
“To shut the door behind him when he had to change.”
“The implication being that he would like to be naked in front of you, is that what you’re saying?”
“Right. But somewhere on the trip I said, ‘I didn’t like when you put your tongue in my ear and grabbed my butt.’ Once again, he started crying and making me feel guilty, and saying there’s nothing wrong with it, and referring to the levitators and Tommy. I think he referred to Tommy and said Tommy wouldn’t care if I did that to him.”
“Then what’s the next step?”
“By the way, he never did those either. The next step, we went back home to LA and he continued doing the things I hadn’t stopped him from doing.”
“Is this before the summer or during the summer?”
“I’m sure it was during the summer.”
“The next step?”
“In L.A., he continued those things.”
“Rubbing up against me, having an erection and kissing for long periods of time.”
“And having an erection?”
“Then what was the next step?”
“Then we went to Monaco.”
“When did you go to Monaco?”
“During the summer, I think. My mom – – ” [Early May, 1993.]
“And in Monaco?”
“In Monaco, he and I both had colds so we couldn’t go out on the town or whatever and see the sights. We had to stay in and that’s pretty much when the bad stuff happened.”
“I don’t know. I think when he convinced me to take a bath with him or something. See, my
mom and Kelly were gone, they were having fun and we were stuck in with colds. And my mom, I remember, she offered to stay in and help us and take care of us, and Michael insisted that our colds shouldn’t detract from them having fun. So we were alone and we took a bath together. That was the first time we ever saw each other naked. And during that time when we were alone in the room and they were gone, he talked about how all of his children friends masturbate in front of him.”
“Did he say which children friends did it?”
“Which children friends did he say masturbated him?”
“Masturbated in front of him.”
“Oh, masturbated in front of him. Okay, who did he say masturbated in front of him?”
“He said Peter Davis, Ian Roberts, Tommy Jones, Billy Williams – he was also on TV.”
“He was also on TV and he said what?”
“‘Michael and I do sleep in the same bed but Michael has never touched me.'”
“He’s lying or Michael’s lying?”
“Well, I don’t – as far as I know he’s not lying. Michael never did touch him, as far as I know. But Michael said that Billy masturbated in front of him.”
“So Billy didn’t say on TV anything about masturbation?”
“No No. And so, other kids – – Wait, I got to think of this kid’s name, Sam Thomas.”
“A boy who went on the Bad tour with him. That’s the name of the tour before this one.”
“You say, Bad tour, is that the name of the tour?”
“They called it the Bad tour.”
“Named after his album.”
“So what else happened, if anything?”
“So he was talking about how all these kids masturbated in front of him, and he said that – – Oh, by the way, I met Tommy and Billy during that time period, and Peter Davis as well. So he was saying that all these kids masturbate and it feels really good, and so one time he masturbated in front of me. That was the first time.”
“He masturbated in front of you?”
“Um, like, he didn’t make me watch and like he was on the bed masturbating, and, I don’t know, I was changing.”
“This is when you had colds in Monaco?”
“Yeah. I don’t know if I was standing in the same room or not, but it wasn’t like he shut the door and closed everything.”
“Where was he and where were you?”
“He was on the bed, in the room. I was, I may have been getting ready in the bathroom, or in the – – We had a large closet and so I maybe was getting dressed in there.”
“But you saw him?”
“Go ahead, next thing.”
“And so he continued that for, like, a lot of the trip. And he kept on saying, ‘Tell me when you’re ready and I’ll do it for you.’ Because up till then I had never masturbated or anything. And I had never, ever, indicated to him that I was ready, like, to be masturbated. And I guess that wasn’t according to his plans, and so, one time he just reached over and said, “Okay, just tell me how this feels.’ And he put his hand on my – – ”
“And this was in Monaco?”
“Right. And he put his hand on my shorts and he said, ‘Now doesn’t that feel good.’ And he rubbed up and down. And I said ‘Yeah.'”
“Did he masturbate you to orgasm, to climax?”
“Well, then he said, ‘Well wait, it gets even better,’ and he put his hand under my shorts and masturbated me to the end.”
“Is that the very first climax you had in your life?”
“Yeah. Well wait, during that summer I had a, what’s it called, a wet something?”
“You mean at night, while you’re asleep?”
“You mean a wet dream.”
“Okay, these were spontaneous. Did you have orgasms in your wet dreams?”
“I had one and that was it.”
“But it was the same feeling?”
“So that was your first, was in the wet dream?”
“And then so your first orgasm outside of a wet dream was when he masturbated you?”
“What was the next step?”
“And he, like, continued that. He stopped everything else that we were originally doing together; we just took baths. And we went to Euro-Disney after we went to Monaco.”
“Anything else at Monaco other than what you told me?”
“About how many times would you say he masturbated you at Monaco?”
“I don’t know.”
“What were your feelings about it then?”
“Well, um, I said, this is really weird, like I never said I was ready then. But I said to myself, it feels good so, just, whatever, and he’s my friend, so I can’t be – – ”
“And while he was masturbating you, what was he doing?”
“Just that, nothing.”
“Okay. Is there anything more about Monaco?”
“Okay, what’s the next thing?”
“The next thing, we went to Euro-Disney.”
“When was that?”
“After Monaco, because Monaco’s in France as well as Euro-Disney, so we went from Monaco to Euro-Disney.”
“And how long were you at Euro-Disney?”
“I don’t know, a week or two at most.”
“Was this during the summer?”
“I don’t know. No, wait, no actually now that I remember, up ‘til now, nothing was past the summer now that I remember, because – – ”
“So, Monaco was before the summer?”
“Euro-Disney was before the summer?”
“Yes, everything. Now I remember because I had a book to read for finals. It was called To Kill A Mockingbird. Supposedly that was one of his favorite books. And so he helped me study and he read the book to me and then he continued to masturbate me.”
“By the way, if this was before the summer, this is the school time. When you’re in all these other places, what’s going on with school?”
“Well, I managed to still get all As; I brought my book with me.”
“Did the school permit this?”
“What happened at Euro-Disney?”
“He continued to masturbate me.”
“About how many times do you think?”
“About once a day. And that was it for Euro-Disney – and France, in general.”
“Okay, that was it with Euro-Disney. Anything else?”
“You mean Euro-Disney?”
“I think we might have taken a bath together.”
“On one occasion?”
“I don’t know. It may have been one, it may have been not at all.”
“Okay, next phase, next step.”
“Next step, okay. We went home, back to L.A. again. Let’s see, I remember, my dad, just as before, last year, was to help me study for finals, and so I was going to go to his house. And my dad and Michael, they had never met before, I don’t think. And so, I was going to go to my dad’s house and stay over there for, like, the weekend. And he was going to help me study. And that really saddened Michael that we would have to separate. So he stayed over there during that
“At your father’s house?”
“That’s right. That’s the only time.” [Actually, there were two weekends.]
“Okay, we’re talking about June now? June of ’93?”
“And then he masturbated me there, and one time when he was masturbating me, um, instead, he masturbated me with his mouth.”
“So he put his mouth on your penis?”
“Yes. Then, um, from that point, till the end of our relationship, he masturbated me with his mouth. And that was as far as it went.”
“About how many occasions did he do that?”
“I don’t know but I can tell you where.”
“Where did it take place?”
“In my father’s house, his Hideout, my mother’s house, and Neverland.”
“Okay, so these are four different places, so obviously it had to happen at least four times. Right?”
“Oh yeah, of course.”
“But I want you to give me a guess – – ”
“Okay. More than fifteen, that’s safe. But he had me masturbate him.”
“On how many occasions?”
“About ten. And he said that – – he had me – – he got me to twist one of his nipples while I sucked on the other and he masturbated himself.”
“Was there ever any anal contact at any time?”
“Most men, when they masturbate – whether they be masturbated by someone else or doing it alone – most men have some thoughts in their mind. Sometimes they don’t but most often they do. When he was masturbating you, what thoughts were in your mind?”
“Um, I thought, it’s weird. It’s like it didn’t feel right but yet it felt good, and he was a friend so I didn’t stop him.”
“Most kids your age start, around your age, start to masturbate by themselves usually without
any kind of experience with another person and kids who (inaudible). Have you continued to masturbate since those experiences?”
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“I did, I believe, six times right after the end of our relationship.”
“And not since?”
“And not since.”
“I’m not saying you should, but I’m asking you why you did. I’m asking you what were your reasons?”
“Because, I remember that it felt good when he did it and – – ”
“Okay, why did you stop? I’m not saying you should or you shouldn’t. I’m just saying why did you decide stop?”
“I didn’t (inaudible).”
“That’s it. Let’s separate the feeling from him.”
“Let’s do this. Let’s take a break for about ten-fifteen minutes and then we’ll continue. So you stretch your legs. Now I want to put it on the record that I’m not going to be talking to you between our meetings. All contact with you, all the things I’m going to say to you will be in this room on this tape. Do we agree that I haven’t spoken to you prior to this day, right?”
“So that’s very important. Okay, so let’s interrupt.”
(Break in interview)
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After the break
“Do you miss him?”
“I’d like to talk to you about how this all came out. By the way, did he say to you that you should never talk to anybody?”
“Yes he did.”
“What specific statements did he make to you in that regard?”
“He said that this – that we had a little box, and this was a secret, and it’s a box that only him and I could share.”
“He was not speaking literally?”
“It was a secret box, like, yeah, pretend we had a box and secrets go in there.”
“A secret, like in a little box?”
“Yeah, you put the secret in the box and nobody can know about what’s in the box but him and me. And he said, once again, he referred to, like, the unconditioned levitators. He said that we weren’t conditioned, but if this box were revealed to other people, like regular people of today’s society, they’re conditioned and so they would believe it was wrong. And so that’s why I
shouldn’t reveal what’s in the box.”
“Do you believe it’s wrong?”
“How did your parents learn about this?”
“I guess, after we had – Michael and I had stayed that night – – ”
“At my father’s, during the finals. He saw that, like, it wasn’t a healthy relationship for me.”
“What did he observe directly in terms of the sexual activities?”
“No sexual activities.”
“He didn’t observe sexual activities? But there were sexual activities?”
“There was, but he didn’t observe them.”
“What did he observe?”
“He observed Michael and I having almost the same personality, the same interests, the same way of speech.”
“When you say similar personality – – ”
“Like, I would act like him.”
“Did you find yourself consciously doing that?”
“Did you make a decision or it just happened?”
“It just sort of happened. Like, the more we hung out together, his personality and his way of speech and everything else would rub off on me. And so he – – Dad saw me alone one time at Cody’s, his pre-school graduation, and he told me ‘You and Michael have lied to me,’ and it seemed like he knew what was going on, without actually saying what was going on.”
“So your father suspected. Is that what you’re saying?”
“Yeah. And he said it in a stern, serious voice, not yelling.”
“Was he speaking to you alone, or – – ”
“When did this happen?”
“I, like, right before my school graduation.”
“That’s May or June?”
“June.” [June 9, 1993]
“So what did you say then?
“I didn’t. – – He didn’t ask me what did you and Michael do together.”
“By the way, going back, did he say, ‘It’s a secret.'”
“Yeah. In terms of did he make any threats?”
“I think he may have said, like, if you tell – – if people say ‘Don’t worry, just tell us, Michael will go to jail and nothing will happen to me you.’ He said that wasn’t true, and I could, like, go to juvenile hall or something.”
“That he could go to jail but you’d go to juvenile hall?”
“Something like that.”
“That he himself could go to jail?”
“I don’t specifically remember. I’m almost positive though, that he said about juvenile hall. I’m almost positive he said that, but I do indeed remember that he said that he would go to jail, and that, like, I wouldn’t get off Scott free.”
“Did you believe that?”
“Well, I didn’t really believe it at the time, and I definitely don’t now. But at the time I didn’t really believe it but I said, okay, whatever, and just went along with it.”
“Now let’s see. When your father confronted you at first, what did you say?”
“Well, um, it was an intimidating circumstance, where he was talking to me, and he said, ‘You’ve lied to me, as well as Michael.’ And I said – I was like, fairly nervous. And he said ‘What would you do if I said that I don’t want you to go on the tour.’ Because I was supposed to be on tour with him now. He’s on the tour.”
“We were planning on going on the tour. And I said, like, ‘I probably would go anyway because I don’t know of any valid reason you have,’ I said to my dad.”
“You still wanted to go on the tour?”
“Yes, at the time.”
“Why is that?”
“Because I was having fun. At the time, the things Michael was doing to me, they didn’t affect me. Like, I didn’t think anything was totally wrong with what he was doing since he was my friend, and he kept on telling me that he would never hurt me. But presently I see that he was obviously lying.”
“You’re saying you didn’t realize it could hurt you? Is that what you’re – – ”
“I didn’t see anything wrong with it.”
“Do you see the wrong in it now?”
“What is wrong as you see it?”
“Because he’s a grown-up and he’s using his experience, of his age in manipulating and coercing younger people who don’t have as much experience as him, and don’t have the ability to say no to someone powerful like that. He’s using his power, his experience, his age – his overwhelmingness – to get what he wants.”
“Alright, so, you finally did tell your father. Who was the first adult you told?”
“How many times did he have to ask you before you told him?”
“The first time he asked, you told him?”
“Well see, at the graduation he said, ‘You guys are lying to me,’ and that was it, he didn’t ask me any questions.”
“And what did you say?”
“I just said, ‘Huh?,” like, ‘I didn’t know.'”
“You made believe you didn’t know what he was talking about?”
“Right. And then he demanded me over to his house, because he knew that the circumstances were wrong. And he, like, I was with my mom and Michael, and he demanded me over to his house. So I went to his house, and he said just for a week and then you can go back. And I really started liking it there. And he had to pull my tooth out one time, like, while I was there. And I don’t like pain, so I said could you put me to sleep? And he said sure. So his friend put me to sleep; he’s an anesthesiologist. And um, when I woke up my tooth was out, and I was alright – a little out of it but conscious. And my Dad said – and his friend was gone, it was just him and me – and my dad said, ‘I just want you to let me know, did anything happen between you and Michael?’ And I said ‘Yes,’ and he gave me a big hug and that was it.”
“And you never gave him the details?”
“Now you divulged this when? When did you tell him? In what month?”
“July. I believe July. I remember that because it was very close to my sister’s birthday, which is July.” [It was July 16, 1993.]
[A discussion ensues about the current and possible future effects on Jordie’s life.] ////
“Are you interested in girls?”
“Do you find yourself attracted to any boys?”
“Have you ever been attracted to boys?”
“You see, there are some kids who have an experience such as you describe, who shift from the heterosexual to the homosexual track. Do you know what I mean by that? If you ask them at five, six, seven, eight, they say ‘I’m going to be a fireman when I grow up and I’m going to get married and have children – something like that – and then they stay on that track. But there are some kids, as a result of an experience like you’re describing, that may shift and start moving down the homosexual track. Do you think that’s going to affect you?”
“Well, it may, and I guess that’s why I’m probably in therapy.”
“Okay, but the question is, have you the feeling now that this may happen to you?”
“Why do you say that?”
” ’cause – – I like girls!.”
“Do you feel that you could have, somehow, prevented all this stuff with Michael?”
“Because originally – – Remember I said there were a couple things he did and I said ‘Don’t do
“It worked those times, maybe I could have done it – – ”
“You could have been more forceful. Is that what you’re saying?”
“Why weren’t you?”
“It was hard to do.”
“Because he’s an adult, he’s overwhelming, he’s famous, he’s powerful.”
“Were you in awe of him? Do you know what I mean by awe?”
“In awe of somebody means that you look up to them like they’re almost a god, or something like that.”
“No. Actually when our relationship got closer and closer I thought less of that. Like most people think that, wow, he’s great, because he can dance and sing. But you know, he’s just like, a regular person.”
“Do you feel guilty about having participated in those acts?”
“Yeah. I regret doing it.”
“What about fears? Any fears of any kind?”
“Sometimes people, after experiences of this kind, develop different kinds of fears. You have no fears?”
“Maybe of cross-examination but that’s all. I mean I have nothing to hide, it’s just the thought of it.”
[Jordie describes some of the non-sexual activities he and Michael did together.] ////
“It sounds to me, from what you’re describing, he was functioning very much as a child.”
“That’s what he believed he was.”
“You say, psychologically, he believed he was a child? When you were with him – you described the video games – he would play with you child games. Did he ever give any explanation as to why he did that?”
“Because he’s, like, when he was young, like my age, his father would continuously make him
work, and like, his father would like beat him and stuff, and he’s trying to relive what he didn’t have as a young boy. Peter Pan is his idol.”
“Why is that?”
“Because Peter Pan is forever young, and he goes on adventures and stuff.”
“He could relive all the experiences he didn’t have, but what about the sexual part. How does
that fit into reliving? Did he say he had sexual experiences of any kind as a child with some older person?”
“No, not that I know of.”
“Did he say he loved you?”
“You know how you look at a romantic movie sometimes and you see the man and the woman, and the man says how much he loves the woman, how much he adores her and praises her. You know about that?”
“Would you say that was the way Michael was with you?”
“Like, it was sort of like a weird kind of love. Like, it was like that but he, he loved me selfishly. Like, regardless of the fact that what he was doing might hurt me, he continued.”
“When you say it could have hurt you, how could it have hurt you?”
“Everybody thinks what he was doing could hurt, otherwise it wouldn’t be a crime.”
“Okay, how could it hurt? As you see it, how could it hurt you?”
“Because – that’s a touchy subject, I guess. It separates you from any other people.”
“I don’t know.”
“Just your own guess.”
“It could make me depressed or something, I don’t know.”
“Well, this is important. You say it’s a crime. Why is it a crime?”
“Because, like I said before, he’s using his experience, power, age – – ”
“How could this have left you? If this had gone on and not been interrupted, how could you have ended up?”
“According to his pattern, I believe he would have left me and, sort of dumped me, I guess you could call it. And I would be, sort of, a vegetable.”
“Why a vegetable?”
“Because he would continue to do those things and I would have no knowing of what else is out there.”
“Say that again. You wouldn’t know what else is out there?”
“Right. Like, he didn’t like it if I would want to call a girl or something. You know, I wouldn’t
know, like, there were other options.”
“Are you saying that he would pull you off the track of going out with girls.”
“What would you say is the best thing that ever happened to you in your whole life?”
“When I told my dad what Michael was doing to me.”
“Why do you say that?”
“Because once I told him, I knew that Michael would never be able to do that to me again. And when something horrible ends, it’s most likely the best thing in your life.”
“You say – – ”
“Like a prisoner being released from prison.”
“But are you saying through all of this, although you enjoyed it, you felt a sense of pressure?”
“Was it a big heavy on you? Do you know what – – ”
“Could you describe – – ”
“Like, I couldn’t be open with how I felt. Like if I didn’t want to do something I couldn’t just say ‘I don’t want to do that’ because he would start crying or whatever. He wouldn’t just say ‘Okay, whatever, we’ll just be friends and play video games.’ He’d start crying and do everything in his power to convince me that – – ”
“But you voluntarily went back there. You could have said, I don’t want to go up to Neverland again, right?”
“So why did you go back?”
“Because regardless of the fact that I went to Neverland, he would be with me. No matter what, he was always with me. It was like, I couldn’t just say I don’t want to hang out with you today.”
“It’s not that easy. He would cry. He would say ‘You don’t love me anymore.’ It would be, like a whole deal, you know, it was hard.”
“It’s my understanding that your mother kind of facilitated things here.”
“What’s that mean?”
“Facilitate means, she made it easy for him. Another mother might not have believed him with
this stuff about ‘It’s okay.’ You know, some mothers would say ‘You’re not sleeping in bed with my kid, I don’t care what you say.’ She got herself talked into it.”
“Is it correct she understands now what was going on?”
“It seems to me that your mother went along with him. She equally got fooled. Is that correct?”
“What are your feelings about your mother at this point?”
“She was fooled, just like you said.”
“Any feelings about that?”
“That I’m sure if she knew what was going on, that she would say there’s no way.”
“Have you discussed this with her?”
“This whole thing. About her being fooled.”
“No, ’cause, I mean, I personally don’t like talking about it more than I have to.”
“Do you have any other feelings besides she was fooled?”
“I understand from your parents that you’re not spending that much time at your mother’s house. Is that correct?”
“And at your age and at your intelligence they are basically letting you make that decision yourself. But there are reasons for everything, and what I want to know from you is, what are your reasons why you want to spend so little time at your mother’s house?”
“It’s not really that I don’t want to spend time at my mother’s house. It’s, there’s, I don’t know.”
“There’s always a reason for everything. Guess.”
“I would say it’s because there’s not so many rules at my father’s house.”
“And what is the reason for that?”
“I don’t know. I guess their values, maybe.”
“What about their values?”
“My father doesn’t believe, for example, in eating the right food every night. You can have candy.”
“Your mother is kind of a stickler?”
“What does that mean?”
“Stickler? Your mother’s fussy and your father’s less fussy about the food. Is that what you’re going to say?”
“Any other reasons?”
“It’s not the food specifically, it’s her rules in general.”
“What about her rules?”
“My mom’s rules are more strict. Like, go to bed this time, do homework right when you come home from school.”
“Any other reasons why?”
“Well, also, at my mom’s house – – the house specifically, or her?”
“Well, I don’t want to spend time at that house because Michael’s presence is still there.”
“It’s like his ghost is still in the house, his aura?”
“Any other reasons with your mother?”
“You see, because I’m trying to find out what psychological problems or reactions, if any, you had to this experience – which was a mind-blowing experience. I’m sure you agree on that. When you think of all the kids in the world, to have had this experience with that guy, you know, it’s reasonable to say that if you lived to be a thousand you wouldn’t forget it. Am I correct?”
“Okay. And it’s got to have some effects on people: you’re not immune to it. It’s probably the
case that it’s not going to affect your sex life. You know it could, but it can have more subtle effects. They’re not as obvious but they are nevertheless effects. I’m trying to find out – – like one of them is, now you have a — you can’t walk into your mother’s house feeling relaxation and comfort because the aura of Michael is there. It’s not a sexual effect but it’s an effect. And it compromises your relationship with your mother. And I’m just wondering about other things, of those effects. That’s why I’m asking you these questions. Do you think it has anything to do with your mother having facilitated. Do you know what I mean by facilitated?”
“Your father thinks, and I’m in agreement with him, that she didn’t show enough – although he was such a convincing and seductive guy – that she should have earlier seen that there was some hokey-pokey stuff going on here and pulled you out of there quicker. Do you agree with that?”
“Well, he had me under his spell. So, you know – – ”
“His spell? Do you think she was under his spell?”
“Well, he got me under it, so I imagine he could get other people under it.”
“I’m wondering whether you do feel some resentment toward her, and that may be a factor why you’re not seeing her.”
“No. I don’t think so.”
“Okay. You know, as I understand it from your parents, and as I can see from what you say, when you’re under his spell he became like, the – – you were being pulled away from your father, from your mother. You know, you were almost like a, you know, drawn in under his web and taken away from your family, and you viewed him as the most important person in your life. Right?”
“And under those circumstances you often take on the traits and the qualities of that person. Did you take on any of his qualities?”
“I did when I was with him, but I thankfully got rid of them.”
“What were the qualities?”
“His way of speech.”
“Can you imitate it?”
“He would use words like ‘hook me up’. That means get me something. An erection was ‘lights.’
“Lights was an erection. Go ahead.”
“Cum was ‘duck butter.'”
“Duck butter? That was semen, ejaculate?”
“So those were his words and you were using those words?”
“Anything else that became part of you?”
“I want to get clarification with girls. What’s your situation with girls at this point? Your father says that you’re on the phone a lot.”
“Do you talk a lot with girls primarily? Do you spend a lot of time with girls?”
“I see you smiling. Do you have a girl friend at this point?”
“I’m sort of in the process of chasing after one.”
“So you got your eye on her?”
“Yeah, I guess you could call it that.”
“Have you kissed anybody yet?”
“I kissed this one girl.”
“Okay. So, your father seems to think in your relationship with the girls you ask a lot of questions; you’re very controlling. Do you think that has anything to do with Michael.”
“No – – Well, yeah.”
“How does it relate to Michael?”
“Because, I hadn’t thought of it this way previously, but now that I think of it, since I put too much trust and gave control to Michael in our relationship, now I watch out for myself.”
“What about trust of your mother? Do you think any trust of your mother has been affected?”
“Well, not because she, as people would say, she wanted to pimp me out. More because of maybe, I tried to tell her one time and she didn’t believe me.”
“When was that? Do you remember?”
“How do you feel about that?”
“I feel that if there’s any remote, itty-bitty thing in your mind that your kid may be getting hurt, you should put an army together, you know, if there’s a suspicion as strong as that, that my Dad had carried out this far. She should have at least listened to what I had to say.”
She's not a musician but actress Parker Posey was engaged to him for several years in the early 2000s. She released an autobiography in 2017 and outside of a few references to him (she still has the dog he bought her) there's nothing.
I found this interesting because she went from working a lot to being considered professionally unreliable during the relationship. It's also the same time frame where Adams was seen as some kind of heroin-selling candyman. Each time he pops up in Vulture's oral history of The Strokes article, it's in a dark light.
Even more than MJ himself (he is long dead and gone, we can't heal the victims or punish him except through acknowledging what he did), now I'm just bitter about all the batshit fans who will go to the furthest lengths to defend this man's name posthumously.
I hope that poor kid and his parents don't suffer harassment and death threats like the others did.
Thats the thing i want for the victims, to make the world acknowledge what he did for the victims sake, they are bing called gold diggers, liars and getting death threats and being stalked.
Yeah, the fans are quite insane, anything to keep his image.
>I hope that poor kid and his parents don't suffer harassment and death threats like the others did.
I hope so to, poor kids..
this is some of the most delusional cope shit ive ever seen
like..even worse than the average kpop defender holy shit haha
>>373463>What always seems to be looked over with the MJ sleeps with kids thing is that part of the never land ranch/foundation had hospital beds for terminally ill make a wish foundation kids. They always had medical nurses on site, the beds were in a room with a built in theater and adjacent to the fun fair.
Jimmy Saville funded children's hospitals and children's hospital wings. He also funded orphanages.
It was very useful for him, because it meant that he had much easier access to lots of vulnerable children.
He/his family testified under oath that nothing inappropriate happened.
His latter accusations have been found to most likely have been lifted from NAMBLA-member Victor Gutierrez's book "Michael Jackson Was my Lover."
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Posting the classic blog that started it all! https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/
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It was a meme joke, friend!
A MEME JOKE!
2005-2009 was incredible. I miss the site, the celebrities, everything.
It's funny that even this is mired in race shit though. I wonder what Brenden and Elizabeth are up to now…
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Happy valentines day, fellow kin! XOXOX <3 Smooches KISSkiss
This isn't true. He described him as being circumcised, but he wasn't. MJ's mom was questioned under oath about his genitalia and asked if he had altered its appearance so that it wouldn't match the description that Jordan had given to the police.
Larry Feldman (who represented Jordan) demanded that photos of Michael's genitalia were barred from the civil case unless MJ did a second strip-search or provided copies of photographs to him.
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I made a last minute valenstan for you anons. ilysm bbs. ijaf.>>373701
there's a comment in the lady gaga tattoo post alluding to a rumour about Brenden being back? Idk if there's anything to it, I'm not as active as I used to be.
speaking of ontd, does anyone know if the ontd LChat thread got rebooted anywhere else? I hear there there were terfy goings on in there before it got shut down and i feel like i missed out. I think LChat banned the topic because of doxxing?
>>373768>He described him as being circumcised, but he wasn't.
And where's the source for this claim?
Btw, Carl Douglas explicitly stated that Michael paid off the accuser to avoid a criminal investigation due to Chandler's description.>“…in our [Jackson’s defence lawyers] perspective, you have to remember that there was a companion criminal investigation case going on by both the District Attorney’s office in Los Angeles and Santa Barbara. There had been an occasion where Michael Jackson was examined, and his genitalia was recorded, which was part of an investigation. And that was part of the 300 pound gorilla in the mediation room. We wanted to do all that we could to avoid the possibility that there would be a criminal filing against Michael Jackson, and the reality was we were hopeful that if we were able to “silence” the accuser, that would obviate the need for any concern about the criminal side, so from our perspective there was a great deal of trust, not only with Johnnie and Larry because they had a twenty year prior friendship, there was a tremendous trust with Johnnie and the three judges being recommended. And we were facing the purple gorilla in the room of “If we don’t get this case settled before March, there is a criminal investigation looming, and no one wanted to consider the implications of that as it affected Michael Jackson”…https://www.mjfacts.com/300lb-gorilla/
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Saw this on my insta last night. Not sure what she’s talking about, commenters seem confused as well.
I think this might help decipher:
Unfortunately for her, Dina Lohan didn’t win this season of Celebrity Big Brother (Tamar Braxton did, Dina came in third with Lolo Jones), which isn’t too much of a shock because she didn’t do anything the entire time she was there. However, Dina still wins a grand prize in the form of her boyfriend, whom many believed was a huge catfish on the other end of her line, leaping from the sea of doubt to inform everyone that he’s been Dina’s catch of the day since they started their questionable relationship five years ago.
I’ll admit that this story stunk to high heaven of fuckery and lies but I will have to throw my hands up in surrender because apparently, for the first time in years, Dina was possibly telling the truth. According to The Blast Jesse Nadler, a 53-year-old commercial real estate worker from Tiburon, CA, is Dina’s main squeeze and he’s done with hiding in the shadows. He wants all of you skeptical hoes to recognize his love for Dina by revealing his off-peak hours Santa Claus face to the entire world. Catfish host Nev Schulman , who reached out to help with Dina’s potential catfishing situation, broke news of Jesse’s existence on Wednesday via a recent tweet exposing Jesse’s face to the world.
Although it seems strange that he would continue playing Hide-And-Seek until it finally came to light that Dina was possibly being lied to, they both have found support from Dina’s ex-husband Michael Lohan who’s always been a credible source. I’m sorry, did I say credible source? I meant incredible source of bullshit because whatever drips from his lips should immediately be flushed down a toilet. However, he supports Dina and Jesse’s romance because anything that brings attention his way always gets his seal of approval.
Michael Lohan tells The Blast he has also been contacted by Nadler, and that they recently “texted for about an hour.” “He even sent me snapshots of his communication with Dina to prove himself to be true.” Michael said he felt the guy was legit, and ended up speaking with Nadler on the phone.
“Actually, he’s a really nice guy with a good heart and I like him, and if he makes Dina happy, I’m happy for them,” Michael explained. Nadler is originally from Long Island, where the Lohans reside, and even made plans with Lindsay Lohan’s father to travel to Montauk for lobsters.
Jesse sticks to his story about never meeting Dina because of his mother’s failing health in a recent interview with Page Six Jesse wants everyone to know he’s not so bad.
“I’m a good guy, I’m the real deal.” He added, “Just the thought of people thinking I could be a catfish when everyone knows me and knows how hard I work and how I respect women and mothers, it just kills me.”
Are you serious…
First of all, you are ignoring the witnesses, the evidence, the accusers detailed accounts etc
second of all he may never have molested corey, and how would he make money from outing MJ? If your thinking of money, being friends with the Jacksons would earn him waaaaaaaaaaaaay more.
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From lainey gossip, via ontd:
>Johnny Depp has been in Europe lately shooting a movie. A couple of weeks ago, he was seen boarding a private plane in Nice heading to Belgrade, surrounded by his usual entourage and there was also a young, attractive woman who was part of the group. In Belgrade, Johnny and the woman, still unidentified, were photographed kissing. Here are two shots from that set, shot on January 28 and only made available today. According to the photo agency, she is his girlfriend.
>It’s surprising to me that there’s been no follow-up on this. Not very many mentions in American entertainment media. As of post time, I’ve not seen it on E! or PEOPLE or Us Weekly. Johnny Depp, despite the fact that many aren’t as fond of him as they were before, is still a big celebrity name. Certainly his love life is newsworthy, has always been newsworthy.
>Yesterday I got a vaguely warning-ish email from someone who insisted that the photos were taken on set and that Johnny wasn’t happy about it and that the woman is his costar. We checked with the photo agency. The photos were not taken on set. Johnny was at his hotel. A French magazine secured the first rights to the images before they were released for online coverage yesterday – which is when I bought them.
>They’ve identified her as “Lily”, an actress. According to Public, she is the “daughter of Depp’s longtime pal” and they met a long time ago. I checked the scans of the magazine and there are more details – supposedly she’s British, 33 years old. I don’t know how reliable this publication is. It’s giving me the same vibes as Heat and New Idea and that bullsh-t they have in Australia. But at the same time, these are pretty specific details: a name, an age, and a citizenship.
>But why isn’t this coming up anywhere else? Like at last check, it wasn’t even in the Daily Mail!? They have budget to buy so many photos. You’re telling me the Daily Mail wouldn’t care about seeing Johnny Depp kissing the new woman in his life?
>I’m not saying something weird is happening. I’m just wondering if something weird is happening. I don’t get why this isn’t getting much coverage? https://www.laineygossip.com/johnny-depp-photographed-kissing-new-young-girlfriend-in-belgrade/51968https://www.laineygossip.com/more-information-about-the-johnny-depp-kissing-photos/51981
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What a disgusting, rotten piece of shit.
I can't wait until this fuck ODs or dies.
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>still has not figured it out
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His daughters name is also Lily and they also look alike: cute looking with a lolita vibe. What's up with Johnny? That's just ew
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Here you go, sourpuss!
Is this pic better for ya?
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He obviously wants to bang his own daughter and choose to take out his sexual frustration on that young woman.
why the fuck is reddit always deleting shit like this?
ugh anyway it sickens me that it's pretty undeniable that mj did it. i never wanted to believe it. i know he had a horrible childhood himself. of course that doesn't excuse it but i wanted to believe he was just weird and wanting to relive his own stolen childhood because of how he suffered. but like so many rapists, he's just a fucking disappointment.
i think another anon was correct in him not explicitly abusing famous boys because having famous boys testify on his behalf or defend him would be more credible to him and would give reason to 'silence' the boys that weren't famous.
also, again, are we not going to acknowledge the fact that images of children that are sexualized but not in explicitly sexual acts is not considered legal pornography and that he owned multiple books that he kept safeguarded called "boys will be boys" and "the boy: a photographic essay" of all naked young boys like 8-11 in suggestive poses, completely nude, which experts in pedophiles say that all pedos possess because it's not illegal to own "art" of young children so long as they aren't engaging in literal sexual acts?
i'm sorry, but the fact that he owned this kind of "art" and kept them in his locker in his room and tried to claim so many times that sleeping with young boys is natural is enough for me to believe he molested these young boys. the whole chandler dad situation is shady but mj was a master manipulator and evil as fuck imo
That makes it more plausible than the other anon that said that MJ family is paying Corey. If that would be the case they're not paying him enough since he keeps begging for more.
Still I can't think at MJ to be this smart to not involve famous kids. It was probably somebody in his family that said "with this kid is ok..but don't touch the other one".
The dark side of his life in Neverland: Shocking new allegations claim Michael Jackson's chimp Bubbles tried to commit suicide, was beaten and started self-harming after he was told the King of Pop was dead
Bubbles was 'rushed to hospital' in 2003 after trying to take his own life when he was no longer living with Jackson at the Neverland Ranch
It's also alleged the chimp, who's now 35, 'self harmed' after hearing about Jackson's death in 2009
Top primatologist, Dame Jame Goodall has claimed Bubbles was punched in the face and kicked in the stomach while he was living with Jacksonhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6710151/Claims-emerge-Michael-Jacksons-chimp-Bubbles-35-tried-life.html
yeah i highly doubt that he tried to harm himself when he 'heard' that he died. i do believe he was probably beaten though. more shit to make it seem like mj was sooooooo impactful and everyone, including his neglected chimp, loved that kawaii baby boy to death>>374515
i should also mention that the authors of both those books ARE verified pedophiles. so yeah, he owned books by LITERAL proven pedos and kept them super safe and like always on him
Did anybody check if the giraffes had signs of sel harm?
I bet their sudden death was in fact suicide!!!
disney dropped him and most of his newest movies have been flops, I hope he's cancelled soon
he was included in that universal thingy for a "dark universe" with classic monsters but the mummy movie flopped so maybe it won't carry on after all lol
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I honestly don't know how famous this guy is but I guess he's technically a celebrity. Pretty funny if he did actually pay these dudes to do it. He has hired a defense attorney.
>Smollett told authorities he was attacked early January 29 by two men who were "yelling out racial and homophobic slurs." He said one attacker put a rope around his neck and poured an unknown chemical substance on him.
>Smollett gave his first detailed account of what he says was a hate crime against him, and the aftermath, in an interview with "Good Morning America" that aired Thursday. During the interview he expressed frustration at not being believed.
>Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation told CNN that Chicago Police believe Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate the assault.
>The brothers, who were arrested Wednesday, were released without charges Friday after Chicago police cited the discovery of "new evidence." The sources told CNN that the two men are now cooperating fully with law enforcement.
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Didn't realize there was a kf thread about it and just started reading…. there was a threatening letter sent w white powder in it?? If he's connected to that it could be a federal crime meaning possible prison time…
His story was so stupidly unbelievable from the start, I didn't even entertain the thought it wasn't
a massive crock of shit. Two racist MAGA dudes roaming the street at 2am who conveniently happened to have a noose and bleach and also watched Empire and had a clue who this twat was. kek. I love when bs stories unravel.
It's been a great read! What do you think of the speculation that it was an attempted campaign boost for Kamala Harris?
Related: Last week in a radio interview she said while she was in college she smoked a joint and listened to Snoop Dog and Tupac whule she was high. But she graduated before either of them had released their own albums.>>374925
Well, he has retained an attorney with experience defending federal cases.
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this is gonna be a fucking mess when it's released. wonder how much of this is PR?
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someone posted about this in the soundcloud thread but I didn't want to derail, is lily rose depp dating timothee chalemet or ash stymest?? im confuse
L-R has always rolled around with the most gutterbutt people since I can recall.
It was really bad when Big Brother UK had a contestant, a younger unemployed model, who also had a kid with the mother of Ash's kid. Newspapers were itching to throw a picture of Johnny Depp's daughter in their comprehensive coverage of nobodies.
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i can't believe this guy is faking a hate crime for clout, what a loser. interesting how he only walked away with a scratch on his cheek, not to mention this fake ass "letter"
it sucks because i really dont want to believe someone would do this, but it definitely looks to be the case
if so i hope he suffers the rest of his life fuck him
Yeah no, this guy is faking it. Would not happen in the middle of Chicago near Navy Pier.
Reminds me of some other dude, not a celebrity, who pretended he got jumped and beaten by 3 MAGA dudes in a pickup truck the day after Trump got elected. The place he described was on a college campus and this happened at 3pm in front of a Domino's Pizza.
almost every black youtuber has been calling his bluff from the beginning
i havent come across one yet that believed him
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look at the writing. he purposely wrote horribly, probably with the opposite hand, to hide his own handwriting. makes it looks like a 5 year old wrote it.
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this guy and his entire family have been obsessively sticking themselves into race baiting politics for years so honestly im not surprised at this point the more i see about it
they tried to make jussie go viral before for ~dancing with michelle obama~ as pathetic as that is
im starting to think this is probably at least INSPIRED by kamala and cory booker and their push for this new legislation, but i dont want to say anything when its brought up because it ventures into conspiracy territory but i cant otherwise see why anyone in their right mind would stage something like this
even if kamala wasnt in on it, the coincidents are becoming a little too much for me to even try to see this sanely
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Did you see who he hired to attack him? Two Nigerian guys KEK
their acting reels are floating around too lol and HOO boy
i see why they are just set extras
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"this is maga country!"
clearly whoever was a part of it thought highly enough of themselves enough(or protected enough if you take the smollett family's connections to the obamas and other leftist politicians) to think they'd never get caught or be held accountable because its for a "greater good" of some sort
narcissism and naivety are a hell of a drug and these people really think they can get away with everything
depends on your point of view
the average american believes they are hence why liberals who claim to be woke still shill for them as well as the clintons despite their records indicating what they really are
its all a smokescreen because americans are fucking retarded
So apparently with all this iron clad evidence, and two investigations, apparently they just didn't have enough to get MJ, despite the entire police force and the media literally creaming themselves over it. A guy who overdosed on anti-anxiety and pain meds was just too much of a mastermind.
Shouldn't you guys be mad at the police for being such colossal fuckups for letting such an open shut case slip through their fingers?
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kind of ot rn but the best site for tea on MJ is https://mjfacts.com
anyone who still defends his honor after a quick glance there needs to suck start a shotty, mj was literally trash where young boys were concerned and was only upset he got caught. he was so fucking bold it's disgusting. never even tried to hide it. ffs this shit was in gossip rags all the time.
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wait im sorry this guy was famous? as a model? i see guys that look like this literally everyday and would never think they could be models
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his wife's awful shoe choice.
so bold that he did weird shit with sean lennon, i would be shit scared of yoko ono but he didn't care apparently, he would have sean and another kid hanging out in his bed watching porn, groomer extraordinaire
when MJ fans attacked him over the video for the song bubbles burst he said the following
“Um, I was there and the song is indeed strictly autobiographical. The point is that we (the kids), were all discarded when we were too old to play with, just like bubbles. The song is good. You just don’t get it. Bubbles was my friend and I will write what I want regardless of the opinion of twats ;). ” ~ Sean Lennon
"play with them" what the fuckhttps://mjandboys.wordpress.com/2016/05/11/michael-jackson-sean-lennon-1984-unknown/
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lol i hate shit like this
see guizz im not TRADITIONAL i do my OWN THANG~!!!!1
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Gay for pay, he clearly slept with or messed around with Ryan Murphy, Adam Shankman and probably a few other higher ups.
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Double post but here’s another gif, it was when they were filming Glee in NYC in season 2, Darren had absolutely no scenes and no reason to be there, but Ryan clearly wanted him there lol
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do you guys think omer bhatti is michael's son? being a fan is one thing but well before he hit 12 he was already looking very similar to michael and he never 'expired' like the other boys and was still hanging out with michael and watching over the kids at 25, all the way until michael's death
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with mj's kids as he often was
Ryan Murphy is a gross pig; I hate the whole gay guy 'when you're young you play, when you're old you better pay' shit, all the older gay dudes in the industry strike me as scummy losers. Like Ian McKellen, after sll the Bryan Singer shit, can't help but think he preys on younger, vulnerable guys.>>376024
Holy shit this guy looks like MJ before all the plastic surgery. Who the fuck is he? Time to do some googling.
holy fuck my people have done it again
now>nollywood actor scam
well what did she expect since she literally latched herself onto his miniscule chode while he was still married to someone else
only a matter of time before he picks up other crabs to replace you with
I was shocked to find out he's with a woman, always thought he was gay. Idk, maybe it's just because he always plays the gay guy in shows and he's a very good actor.>>376024>>376026
Hmm… he really does look like MJ…
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yeah, he was kind of a big thing like at the beginning of the 2010s. He was several times in the Vogue, did runway shows for Dior or shoots for Galliano etc. But once he stopped being the ~pretty and wild tattooed bad teenage boy~ people stopped caring about him and he pretty much vanished from the fashion scene after that.
I remember him bc he did some really cool photo shoots back in the day and tumblr was lusting all over him, also he and his ex broadcasted their entire love life on twitter.
>blast from the past
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CDAN has been talking about this for a bit and I've seen it spread around other sites but it feels like this asshole is gong to get a pass because of his daddy.
Max Landis, son of director John (outed long ago by Eddie Murphy, who questioned his need to have small children on set at all hours of the day and night)(also loved coke so much that he thought car crashes and explosions were hilarious, especially if they resulted in the beheading of three of his actors–one of them Jennifer Jason Leigh's dad and two Asian kids who were not supposed to be on set) has been talked about on the dl w/r/t sexual assault since at least 2017, but the allegations of flat out rape are now coming in. He is your standard woke ally/male feminist/scumbag hiding in plain sight, and he's only got where he is because of daddy's connections and money. He sucks as a screenwriter and everything else.
A bunch of people who work with him are staying very mum about the rape talk, including Idris Elba (why?) and Chloe Grace Moretz (believable). A quote from the linked article:
'Landis did not deny the accusations when confronted but wrote them off as the two “wrestling around.” He apologized for having a “boner” but then wrote, “We probably just have different definitions of what a ‘move’ is.” He concluded with, “Yeah, I got my signals really crossed.”
Trash to the second generation.https://www.dailydot.com/irl/max-landis-accuser-allegation/
The trailer for Leaving Neverland was released. Look at those dislikes and comments… MJ's crazy ass stans are out in full force. >>376469
The Korean rapper from 2ne1.
He is beyond gross. How can anyone stan him? Just look at him, he's so obviously a pedo, it's mind boggling that these middle aged fraus stick up for him.
They also stalk his now-adult victims on their forums and across socials. You see them acting up on Facebook all the time, whenever someone calls him out for the obvious pedofaggotry, they swoop in. Nasty.
I'll never understand the celebrity hero worship. He made some great music but it's not reason enough to deny that he sexually abused helpless children
. People are fucking insane.
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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone post about this yet. Apparently, Khloe Kardashian's baby daddy has been cheating with Jordyn Woods, Kylie Jenner's best friend. Khloe and her best friend, Malika, have been commenting on posts about the incident as pictured. A lot of people are saying it's a publicity stunt as a new season of kuwtk is coming out soon. What do you guys think?
I had the same shock when i began researching the cases with boys, so so soooo many crazy cult-like fans, i have never seen a fandom like this, It. Is. Insane.
It must have been so intimidating for his victims to step forward, not only because of shame alone, but his batshit fans.
Short doc related if anyones interested (the narrators a bit qoo qoo, so ignore those bits where he says tinfoil-y shit)
thanks, going to listen to that in a bit. the director of leaving neverland and the two guys said they received death threats.
as far as the defenders go, everyone touts the jordan chandler circumcision thing as a 'gotcha', but (and even if jordan was never molested or raped, it doesn't negate the other claims!), assuming michael was erect when he was with him, uncircumcised men can look cut when erect and you can't tell. some men have very short foreskin naturally anyways. i personally think it was dumb for investigators to not document how he looked while erect, too, but i guess it's difficult to go about that?
because their ploy is to just to pay black men to date them to make a statement
ive heard none of them even fuck other than to get knocked up, and kim doesnt even do that lmao
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The Dummy Boy rapper, whose real name is Daniel Hernandez, told a judge he helped members of the New York-based gang rob people at gunpoint and helped traffic drugs for the sake of empowering the gang’s stronghold throughout Brooklyn and New York City. He also admitted to aiding in the attempted murder of a rival gang member, a New York Times report revealed. “I did this to maintain or increase my own standing in Nine Try,” 6ix9ine said in court on January 23.
According to the plea deal, 6ix9ine’s cooperation in the investigation of Nine Trey has resulted in the U.S. Attorney in the South District of New York’s agreement “not to prosecute” him for crimes listed in the nine counts against him. 6ix9ine’s revelations regarding crimes he had not yet been charged with will also not be held against him.
There’s a possibility 6ix9ine may be eligible for not only a shorter sentence but also witness protection due to the violent nature of crimes against others indicted. “It is understood that the defendant’s cooperation is likely to reveal the activities of individuals and that witness protection may be required at a later date,” court documents said.
Prosecutors also acknowledged agreements to write a letter requesting the judge to reduce 6ix9ine’s sentence for his cooperation in the case, although the 22-year-old’s fate will ultimately be up to the judge.
6ix9ine was arrested on a federal indictment along with five other men in November. A number of other men have since been arrested and charged in connection to the gang.
Pedo Boy gets off scott-free again. Ugh. I doubt he'll get witness protection, his face is too recognizable. Still infuriating though
Fuck this goddamn court system.
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It's hilarious to see a Kardashian adjacent person call someone a hoe.
I know they were indoctrinated from day 1 by PMK but it's so bizarre, I just can't imagine living my life like this.
yep it would take years for him to get surgery to change his ugly mug and laser off those tattoos
because IF they're interested in sex they can just fuck whoever?
kim is a fucking escort anyway so if shes pining for dick im sure she gets it
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speaking of dummy boys…
>"Empire" actor Jussie Smollett has been "officially classified" as a suspect in a criminal investigation for allegedly filling a false police report, according to a tweet from Chicago police communications Officer Anthony Guglielmi.
>The tweet goes on to say this is a Class 4 felony and detectives are currently presenting evidence before a Cook County grand jury.
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It may go Federal, too, since he involved the postal service in his hate hoax.
Also belongs in the bad art thread.
i can't believe ontd is still saying "not until there's REAL proof he didn't set it up"
this guy was attacked but didn't get beat up, i think that's proof enough
ontd is cancer
"This is the ONLY place i feel safe every other site is bad im always so disgusted by the comments literally anywhere else this is muh SAFE SPACE!!111"
gee i wonder why
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This is just tragic
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This gap-tooth bitch is so dumb, it makes me mad. She had ONE JOB to keep Kylie sweet and she still fucked it up. Biting the hand that feeds you and all that. If the Kardashians weren't such chickenshit, they shoulda beat her ass.
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regardless of whether its true or not the memes coming out of it are funny at least
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The 26-year-old told Vanity Fair: 'We’re redefining, to be f*ing frank, what it looks like for someone that’s a queer person like myself to be in a hetero relationship.'
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Ah yes, my favorite queer
couple. So glad to finally get celebrity LGBT representation. They're so brave.
they really are a hivemind over there.
every single comment in the new jussie posts are>it's okay to believe victims!
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Gabourey Sidibe is a shit actress and OF COURSE she's defending Jussie boy
She promptly deleted the post because 'some of y'all showed ya asses', ie: people were honest and didn't immediately kiss up to her
when has this bitch ever
been queer in any way, shape or form. she's a female presenting/passing/pronouns etc, never been in any relationship with other women or ~queers~, and is married to a fucking dude. where is the queer. miley you are fucking famous how much more attention do you NEED
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A few days ago Lana posted a poem from her up coming book Violet bent backwards over the grass (or sthg like this) and it confirms she's a tone-deaf poor little rich girl kek
According to Ariana Grande, being able to sing means you deserve to earn 20 million a week.
>‘I totally agree,’ I said. ‘And men should be paid the same as women, right?’
>‘OK, so I’d like to be paid the exact same amount as you. What are you earning these days - $20 million a week?’
>There was a moment of silence before everyone exploded with laughter.
>‘You can’t sing!’ she insisted.
>‘I can sing!’ I retorted. ‘In fact, I regularly sing on TV to millions of people. So I demand equal pay as you.’
>‘That’s not how this works…’ she chuckled.
Two privileged rich people talking about rich privileged rich people shit.
Also included: What is the No 1 topic of choice Miss Grande decided to discuss? Whether Kim Kardashian should be praised for posing nudes or not.
Truly muh feminism
Your only long term relationshhip being with a man other than 2 flings with women for attention (and she's done a lot
of stuff for attention, please see: Her whole career this decade) does not a queer woman make
Samefag, but this type of """""queer"""" just promotes the narrative that girls are only good for sex, and a "real" relationship has to be with a man. See: Half the pop songs and music videos from the past few years, full of "sexy lesbian flings".
Nothing new here. I kissed a girl and I liked it.
dude fuck off, bisexual people exist and they don't need to meet a quota of queerness to be accepted as lgbt.
miley is an idiot but claiming bi people aren't actually queer because they're currently in a hetero relationship, or have dated more of the opposite gender than the same gender, is biphobic. i'm going to stop here because it's off topic but i seriously hate this logic. it's part of why bisexuals don't want to admit to what they are and use terms like "queer" so they don't spark debate on "oh well you don't date x gender enough! you're straight!!"
As a bisexual woman, shut up. Miley never even dated a woman seriously and it's not like its hard for her to meet women. Using women for sex and never considering them as serious options doesn't make you bisexual. >>378771
Being bisexual or gay makes you "queer". Miley is neither. Hooking up with a chick once for publicity or to experiment or because it's edgy and trendy doesnt make you bisexual.
>>378777>Using women for sex and never considering them as serious options doesn't make you bisexual.
Sorry to derail, but it absolutely does. Sexuality
is about who you are sexually
attracted to, not who consider to be "serious options."
TIL "trubi" is a thing and it's equally as retarded as truscum tranny bs.
Jusst fuck my shit up fam>>378855
Thought so too. Wonder if Lana's gonna be Luna's new "inspiration"
I consider those type of guys to be emotionally gay, since the only people they respect and admire are male. If you only love your own sex, you're gay.
They are just cowards in regard to actually fucking men, if they were honest they would be.
The people you love and have relationships with are your primary sexuality. Nobody should be trying to take credit for superficial traits they have no dedication to, like shagging a woman for attention or fapping to lesbian porn and now you're Totally Bi Queer LGBTQ+!!
What nonsense… Words mean things, you know. Sexuality is about sex, there is no such thing as having an 'emotional' orientation. It's called a platonic relationship when you love someone you don't feel attraction towards.
And I hate to break it to you, but nearly all men dedicate their respect and admiration exclusively to other men.
What nonsense. This is like a tumblr-tier take on sexuality.
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…..so how about those oscars? Gaga and Bradley Coopers performance was really intimate for the two just being friends. I feel bad for his girlfriend getting cucked like that on national television.
Pretty sure this poster is also the author of>>379046
in the pinkpill thread, who outed themselves as male (posting around the same time, same typing style, mansplaining the word platonic, doesn't conflate sex to emotion in any way, overly offended at insinuation of homosexuality)
I can have my dumb opinion and be wrong or right, but just some context>>379038
There's some interesting stuff on Twitter about the Oscars, if anyone here watched it I wouldn't mind a highlight reel(ban evasion)
Ntas but>everyone who disagrees with my retardation is a scrot
Right. Why didn't the farmhand ban you for longer? Shut up already
I think that's a popular opinion. BR sucked, also wtf were they thinking giving Green Book best picture.
Olivia Colman is lovely though.
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why did they even choose rami malek??? they had another guy do the vocals and he legit actually looks like freddie (just with a stronger jaw, but rami looks way less like freddie anyways) and sounds exactly like freddie. obviously they knew of him as they employed him as well but tell me this guy wouldnt have made a better freddie (that's him on the left as well)
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Yeah I was kinda surprised when I saw Green Book won best picture. I feel bad for Spike Lee, this is literally Driving Miss Daisy all over again. But I shouldn't have expected much from the Oscars, the best movies often get snubbed for stupid Oscar bait. (Yes I'm eternally salty that fucking Crash won best picture over Brokeback Mountain).
It's pretty hilarious that The Beaverton predicted this a month ago though, pic related.
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Like a year ago Luna posted this but it went nowhere. Which is funny because LDR is Luna except filthy rich (~but not like you think uwu~), somewhat talented and successful:>same daddy and Kurt Cobain obsession>glorification of drugs and heroin>ddlg vibes >similar kind of poetry>has or claims to have mental health issues>Luna loves CLove, Lana toured with her and was interviewed by once or so
Maybe Luna did not get into Lana because it triggered
her BPD that someone does her ~broken bbygurl poet~ persona than her kek
Green Book was good but it felt very “safe” for Best Picture. I mean, if it was 5-10 years it might be more appropriate but a lot of films who had won best picture in the past have delt with racism in America and Green Book didn’t really bring anything new to the table.>>379038
Isn’t he a closet case? I thought Irina was his beard.
Yeah I said it in Luna's current thread too >>>/pt/624577
. Luna is the dollar store Lana version
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Wtf happened to Lady gaga's face? I used to find her decently cute but something about her looks off now.
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those big ass dark brows and fake tan does her no favors tbh. she looked so good in ahs with light skin and brows!
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While I agree with >>379593
I can't unsee young Donatella Versace in all her recent styling and ps that was done to her face. I always loved her face because it was really unique and pretty in a different way, but now it's just stiff and really uninteresting.
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Kendall's new face looks so much like young Kim, it's creepy
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Every time I saw her on screen during the oscars it freaked me out. She looks so off. During the red carpet you could see she has lumpy cheek filler. So many celebs have bad cheek filler now, it's ridiculous. Angela bassett looks creepy now, but I can't put my finger on why.
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lmao I haven't thought of these staged ass photos in years. almost on par with the tom hiddleston/ taylor swift world tour of doom.
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god, that was the worst
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I love the expression on Ryans face kek. He is certainly disgusted and wished to be somewhere else than near Tom and Taylor
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Jesus, it's even worse than I thought.
I know I used to think I was so wise and enlightened as a teen because I didn't buy into the whole teenage drama shows (which would later evolve to """reality"""TV), but I never considered that the deception continuined even after the cameras were off.
I honestly wonder what it does to a person's mind to be constantly in a contract where you are obligated to say certain things, do certain things and be at certain places. How do these people not see how their actual reality is eroding and their actual
private/personal lives are now up on the table for businessmen to promote? Even if they can go out on these lavish trips and expeditions, what do they almost always have in common? Severe drug and mental health problems.
I really wonder if Hollywood's practices will ever die. YouTubers, IG stars and what have you may seem
more real and relatable, but I can guarantee you most of the things they do are also scripted (especially these 24/7 twitch stars, like Ice Poseidon).
I just wish people knew more about these contracts, how much PR managers and agents control these stars lives and how much of these seemingly genuine relationships and trips are all still fake.
I think Taylor is gay. Remember she had a harem of models around her a few years ago. Around that time I looked through her Twitter images and it was all sexy pictures of women, and one image of Ed Sheeran thanking him for his help. It just screamed "lesbian" to me. Ironic Miley is flaunting her fake lesbian side while married to a man, while Taylor completely hides it
All tinfoil but I think it's obvious, especially with staged images like this.
>>380483>Harry to Jake to Tom>every time staged cringey photos
not really. google "taylor swift and ___" with the other 2 guys. every time there's only about 1 outing where the couple was photographed, and they're usually walking alongside each other. i think one picture they smile at each other. wow that's so fake. those pictures aren't "cringey". sure, i agree, Tom with the shirt was, but you're reaching when you say "it's every time!! all of her relationships!" because that's really not the case.
>now she's so ~PriVaTe with her 'boyfriend' Joe Alwyn
she's always been private. she's never voluntarily posted pictures of her and a bf on her social media, with the exception of calvin harris. so many other celebs constantly talk about their marriages, relationships, breakups, post pics, etc very very publicly on their social media. she never has except for one time. idk i feel like this point against her is so unfounded. i'm confused at where you're coming from.
her pony tail is triggering
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Well that was fast.
excuse me anon, there is no cringe here. >>381660
isn't cole with barbara palvin?
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man I've missed out on some shit since season 1, this is great. What I remember is that Lili had a bf when the show started, and from before. She posted about him on social media back when she wasn't a big name and she posted for herself and not for promo. And sometime during/after season 1 they mysteriously broke up and she was leaning heavily towards Cole. Hanging out in videos, he would take tons of photos of her. She would make sly references in a wink, wink way about him. She also has/had a tumblr and she'd posted a video of her singing which she removed, as well as fans starting to link dots. Some seriously creepy sleuthing went down with fans, like recognising areas from flowers, following mutuals and seeing that they'd spend time together, finding fan selfies with them and she'd be wearing his jacket, etc. At the time they both were very adamant about not discussing their personal life and it fuelled the fire.
The story I got from friends is that Lili knew Cole when they were kids, or at least had met him more than a passing moment. Also the boyfriend wasn't a big name or anything and I am sure her family would love for her to be dating Cole Sprouse. I haven't seen the social media interactions you mentioned. I haven't seen complaints either, mostly because I was deep in the Bughead hole and slapped some sense into myself and cut off from all that.
Also no, Lili isn't a nerdy weeb at all even though she tries to pass off as such, as so uwu relatable dorky girl who does silly things and makes silly jokes.
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Stop genderqueer-bashing Miley, you guys.
They've never mentioned knowing each other beforehand but she was trying to date another actor she knew beforehand that she used to be kinda rude to but he got the same popularity as the people on Riverdale (so like e-list) and then suddenly she started liking all his stuff on social media and then her contract with Cole happened. Honestly the whole cast is insufferable especially after the got pissed that somebody said their show sucks and they tried to stick an army of 12 year olds at him but it backfired cause the fans said the show sucks and they watch it for a good laugh and then the Betty one went "Twitter is toxic
and I'm mentally ill uwu" and the Cheryl ones lip injections scare me but no one talks about it so I feel like I'm the only one who sees it (I'd show everyone a picture but just looking at those people annoys me tbh). Also the wearing each other's clothes thing while denying dating is a classic pr move ew.
Cheryl's lips do bother me too, you aren't alone anon. Something always seemed off but I couldn't tell because I wasn't seeing so many comparison pics like I do in lolcow now. Once you start noticing the patterns it's freaky how often you see it. Although she seems the least milky since she was a model before Riverdale so she was doing her own thing already.
I am so thrilled that it backfired honestly, I think Alex Meyers' videos on Riverdale really put things into perspective of how fucking cheesy it is. Although I browsed through tumblr in the anti tags and yikes, lesphobes and straight wash and abuser
and racist etc. Archie guy is an asshole there is no doubt about it, Lili is ignorant and puts her foot in her mouth because she's made plenty of tweets and instas in the past about supporting gay marriage so I don't think she was being lesphobic I think she was not thinking properly. I don't think Cole is as terrible as they make him out to be, and his ex breebunn was a mess (not in the good way) when she was hurling accusations at him. At most he probably thinks he's a bit smarter than he actually is.
I don't remember what interview it was but I think he was being interviewed by some Asian girl and it was around the first few episodes of the show airing. The PR posts they make on ig tend to fall flat because it comes off as try hard. He posted a pic of her topless and people made fun of theminstead
Here's them being annoying in public: http://www.iheartradio.ca/news/watch-cole-sprouse-confronts-vancouver-street-musician-1.2843767
And then I'm trying to find the accounts of them being horrible on lipstick Alley but they disappeared? It was about someone who worked on set (Betty would snap at people and cling to Cole while Cole would try to prove how smart he is and both are horribly insecure) and then accounts from people that have interviewed them and the cast tends to be very rude towards interviewers and apparently it's common with e-list actors like these. Like the a-list ones will typically be nicer and the e-list onces think they are famous cause they have 2mil ig followers and a shitty teen drama. If I find it again I'll post it here. But if you guys wanna see the tension in interviews between cast members and also between them and the interviewer it's all over YouTube. People think the Cheryl one hates Cole & betty and now that I think about it Cole's friendship with the Archie after turning 45 and doing coke since the age of ten looking one seems like PR too. Right when the show aired they were screaming about how they were bfffls and for anyone who doesn't know Jughead and Archie are childhood best friends so it wouldn't surprise me if thats why they were suddenly screaming about a bromance. I wonder what it must be life to live a life that fake for the attention of 12 year old girls .
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Wow I'm making my research right now and Lili is really a cow
This is what I've found around
Liked a fat shaming comment on Instagram and never addressed it. Posted a misogynistic picture to Snapchat - comparing women to beer and never addressed it. https://twitter.com/krisha_movilla/status/858275315939815424
Compared the BLM movement to cannibalism. Referred to a black man as an animal. There’s alleged allegations that he abused his ex girlfriend. Multiple proof of him being a grade A douchebag on his social media, is the physical embodiment of r/iamverysmart.
Says lesbian relationships only exist in fan fiction (when Riverdale is a fan fiction version of the Archie comics) even though she was pushing Beronica really hard before the show's release to bait more people onto watching it, says depressed people should just stop being sad and be happy, and whenever she’s called out for this ignorance she gets defensive and cries "muh HATERS, spreading love not hate" à la Ariana Grande and plays victim
. Is often seen crying about the haturz, see >>381872
>Says lesbian relationships only exist in fan fiction
uuuuuuuh as in a lesbian relationship wouldn't happen on the show, only in fan fic? Or lesbians don't exist in general?
She insisted that Betty and Veronica would never have romantic feelings for each other when Archie comics has hinted at that for a good 4-5 decades now .The company started in like 1938/39 but then rebranded in 40/41 so their 100th anniversary is around the corner so one, it's weird to deny something so ingrained in the "folklore" and two she was all like EWWWW lesbos but the characters kissed on the show and even the show called itself out for queerbaiting and they used it for advertising too, they also turned the one gay character in Archie comics into the gay best friend instead of someone who just happens to be gay so overall everything is a mess.
Archie Comics actually got pissed off at the CW when they realized what they are doing with the property but the sold the rights over to them so there's really not much that they can do but try to make the little bit of money the show/merch makes and wait for it to get cancelled.
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Not to wk, but he's kind of right here. I remember this and thought it was stupid as hell. I totally support BLM but this incident was embarrassing and pointless and it could Def be seen as cannibalistic because Bernie's platform already supported them…
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Khloe Kardashian freaked out on Twitter because Jordyn Woods went on a show and said the kiss with Tristan didn't even have any tongue.
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Dat necklace tho.
i know this is old news but i want to know what you guys thought of it: the whole jack antonoff and lorde thing and him (allegedly) cheating on lena dunham at their apartment with lorde, who was basically a child, and he was like, 33. i really can't tell if they did or didn't but tbh lorde is shady and seems exactly the type to get off on cheating with a friend's man right in front of them and antonoff seems scuzzy enough (plus is it really so unthinkable of like, any famous man?)
here's the powerpoint of it:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rFJuHw8zQ0iBkcYQNr6FABPvW0Rm4RW2/view
Jack has always rubbed me the wrong way. I was really disappointed when I found out Lana Del Rey was working with him.
I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor Swift or Lorde comes out and says he was assaulting them when they need publicity for their next albums.
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>>382076>what happens when celebs damage this kind of shit? that's a 128 carat tiffany. i'd be pissing my pants while wearing it
Yeah. That'd be the moment where a person would jack the body guards gun, put it to the temple, spray paint the place red and grey.
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not late twenties, but she dated a 24 yo at 16. antonoff is jewish, not asian, iirc? but he kind of looks it. this is her official new bf and honestly this is so gross. i hate seeing women younger than myself dating old men. literally feel like these girls are stupid babies. and you're right, how the fuck is this guy 33? what a rough 33. 22 and 33 is so disgusting though.
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This shit has a worth of ca. 30$ Million. But still think that this design is kind of clunky idk
what the FUCK? and every celebrity reporting outlet isn't like "pedo!!", they're just talking about it like it's some cute anecdote now? what in the flying fuck
glad taylor swift showed him to be the dick that he is then.
Why is this girl so attracted to older creepy dudes? I already hated jack Antonoff for participating in her album but the thought of them having hooked up is disgusting.
I think her mom's way of parenting has made her act way older than she is.
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Oh Kate, love yourself.
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Anyone watch Leaving Neverland?
MJ's deranged stans are a mess on Twitter and are attacking Oprah and other celebs for supporting the victims
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Double post but wew
>is the exact length of the first part of the documentary>,a second concert film, “Live at Wembley Stadium” will air the same time as the second part of “Leaving Neverland.”https://variety.com/2019/film/news/michael-jackson-estate-concert-film-youtube-leaving-neverland-1203154028/
It isn't "deranged fans". Even people who aren't into him like that know that those two are both lying. They even altered footage in the in the documentary (the birthday thing specifically). Oprah is friends with Harvey Weinstein and one other guy and she's known for possibly supplying victims
to him and not saying a word when he was under fire. I heavily suggest you read everything in his thread before you support a shitty person like Oprah or any other of Weinstein's friends. https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/its-2019-michael-jackson-is-innocent-proof-posted-here-wade-robsons-changing-story-post-2.2073306/
Wade has also been harrasing other men who grew up around the Jackson's and has been calling them out on Twitter and one are two such as Brett have decided to take legal action.
Oprah has had this deranged vendetta against Michael Jackson since the 90s and many black people in the industry no longer work with or get near her including Monique who Oprah blackballed for calling her out on her bullshit. Oprah never spoke about Harvey, her father and barely did anything about the rapes in her school in Africa. Harvey also got caught feeding the media false information about MJ in the early 2000s too whenever something about himself was going on.
It's not people being blind and deranged, people literally just smell the bullshit that that whole documentary was especially when Wade and what's his face lied saying they only recently met each other when Wade mentioned meeting him way back in 2016. If there are victims
of Micheal jackson, it's def not them.
I didn't like Oprah's uncle Tom ass before and I don't like her now. But people do need to articulate themselves better or else people will use the "deranged" fans excuse to protect Oprach, Ava, and all them.
It's fucked up. Even if you ignore the molestation accusations he was still incredibly inappropriate towards young boys.
How are people defending a grown man sleeping in the same bed with children? Any other celebrity would be eaten alive.
Anon, I strongly recommend you read all of what's linked in:>>372562>>372756
There's no defending MJ. He did what he did. Oprah isn't good, either, I don't think most celebrities are. Let's call a spade a spade.
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For those of us who grew up with 90210, fuck that Riverdale noise, I was watching this from the time I was eight and stuck with it through every single season and all of Tori Spelling's horrific plastic surgery. This show was my first love! Kind of surprised there aren't more oldfags talking about this tbh.
How do you die at 52? So sad. RIP, sweet prince.https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/04/luke-perry-dead-dies-stroke-beverly-hills-90210-riverdale/
Yeah I try not to sound like >old man shaking fist at cloud
or whatever but it annoys me too seeing stuff about his character on Riverdale everywhere today
I doubt anybody who grew up watching 90210 even watches Riverdale and knew he was on it.
I sure as hell didnt.
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Now this will be kind of silly, but I've watched Riverdale (before dropping it when it became unbearably shitty) and he played the "loving dad" character so well, he was so endearing. This is so sad.>>383444
It was suicide, too. I loved The Prodigy.
Man this bums me out. I listened to Fat of the Land nonstop when I was 17. I had a chance to see the Progidy live a few years back at Ultra but I fell and got drenched in mud due to he rain. Now I’ll probably never get a chance. R.I.P. Suicide is a terrible way to go. Hope he’s in a better place.>>383438
It’s fucking tacky but that stuff is pretty standard when an actor on a popular and current show dies. Luke Perry wasn’t the first time and it certainly won’t be the last.
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If I needed any more proof that Kylie has unseated Kim, this is it. RIP Kim K's relevancy. Can't say I'll miss ya.
Hope I saged this correctly. If not…sorry.
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The guy who played Zack in School of Rock has been caught four times attempting to steal and pawn guitars and amps.
lol hiring PR? What good would that do. After 1 settlement, years of investigation, an acquittal by jury, and an overdose on painkillers, people still want to suck money out of MJ's corpse.
Nobody wants to watch a show where MJ is innocent, they want to hear he fucked a cow, while sacrificing a baby to the moon. That's what they want. Now that he's dead, they can dig up his corpse and parade it around with no ramifications.
If theres a demand there are people there to supply.
Or, you know, he was a child molester whose incredibly rich family bought the silence of his victims
Funny you brought that up, MJ made 2 settlements with the victims
I remember correctly.
>>383805>Nobody wants to watch a show where MJ is innocent
Except all of his fans do? Look at the dislikes on the trailer, the low IMBd score, the #leavingNeverland hashtag. All of those people would love to get rid of any media portraying MJ in a bad light.
There wasn't this level of outcry when Surviving R. Kelly
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do the olsens freak anyone else out? between their obnoxious attitudes in public ("we want to be completely private but still show up to events but euuughh don't talk to us you commoners") and them dating fucking disgusting old men for their money i've grown to hate them. i know child stars often have issues but maybe if they opened up and stopped acting like cunts who are too good to talk to anyone outside of haughty fashion elite types then they'd be more sympathetic
also mary kate's botched face is horrendous
But haven't you heard, settlements absolve pedophiles of all wrongdoing! What he did wasn't immoral because some victims
this seems like an over reaction. the olsen twins are worth a combined $400 million, they don't need anyone else's money.>maybe if they opened up and stopped acting like cunts who are too good to talk to anyone outside of haughty fashion elite types then they'd be more sympathetic
Opened up? to who? I'm sure they're really bothered by your opinion.
I've had it with these irrational MJ fans. The man had entire books full of nothing but naked little boys in gross poses his house, and left hardcore porn strewn around in what was meant to be a safe place for children and their innocence.
He slept with little boys in his bed (ONLY little boys), and cried "We’re a family! Don’t you trust me?" when a parent of one said they weren't comfortable with him doing that with their son.
A good set of lawyers can make any case disappear. We all know what happened.
Source on the books: http://www.mjfacts.com/was-child-pornography-found-in-michael-jacksons-home/
There are screencaps from the books in this article. They are technically "legal", but…fucking look at them (or don't, if your stomach isn't that strong). No innocent person would own this shit or touch it with a ten-foot pole. These definitely aren't coffee table books someone's doting grandmother owns, and some of the photographers featured in them have literally, openly talked about being into kids.
Source on the porn: https://www.mjfacts.com/the-full-list-of-porn-erotica-found-in-michael-jacksons-home/?age-verified=4386938e02
Source on the porn being strewn around: https://imgur.com/ybJOXGB
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I find it strange that the sources the blog uses are all from tabloids or articles.
When you can go look up the public records of the trial.
>>383882>no nude photographs
Now this is a bold-faced lie. The actual court documents detail all the nude magazines/books in his home.>no child pornography
This is a bit more feasible because of the legal definition of child pornography being iffy in certain cases/jurisdictions.
Can you post a link to that specific document? I'd like to take a look at it.
you know rich people settle when they know they're not gonna win, right? lol. MJ was a pedophile, deal.>>383882>blurry jpeg of a word doc
that removed reddit post had credible sources but surprise surprise, that's ALSO been removed…even the archive doesn't work. the jackson estate is thorough, that's for sure.
>>383882>It's all tabloids!
Not that simple. Actually read the articles you're trying to debunk next time (this is from http://www.mjfacts.com/was-child-pornography-found-in-michael-jacksons-home/
):>The Santa Barbara Sheriff’s Department wrote in response to the article:
>“Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff’s Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff’s Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the internet or through unknown sources. The Sheriff’s Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff’s Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense.”
>Many people seized on the words “…content that appears to be obtained off the internet or through unknown sources…” and erroneously pronounced the entire RadarOnline PDF as fake. One of those was a spokesperson for the Michael Jackson Estate, who gleefully responded:
>“Everything in these reports, including what the County of Santa Barbara calls “content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources” is false…”
>Clearly, the factual reports from the Sheriff’s Department were not false, and most of the photos weren’t either so it’s quite disingenuous for the Estate to label them as such.
>Assistant District Attorney at Jackson’s trial, Ron Zonen, was interviewed by People magazine a day later and stated, “…law enforcement did discover adult pornographic magazines and videos, though nothing constituting child pornography.”
>Zonen went on to say, “There were photos of nude children but they weren’t sexually graphic.” The photos he says showed children “playing in the stream, climbing trees, nature photographs, nudist colonies, things like that.”
>You’ve seen the photos above. While not sexually graphic, they are sexualized photos of boys.
So: There were absolutely nude images of children and adults in his home. Lies made by MJ's well-paid defense team do not debunk the truth. If you want to argue that the images shown in that article are "innocent", you know you're being disingenuous and you are free to die on the "pedo defense" hill alone.
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>>383885>Raven Woods is an author, educator, pop culture journalist and author of Allforlovebloghttp://www.allforloveblog.com/?page_id=5080>This is a place for anyone who loves Michael Jackson or is at least interested in him. I’ll be blogging on the latest topics of interest to MJ fans, as well as linking to other great sources of info. I welcome all your comments, but please, no bashing that is serving no purpose except, well..to bash. The golden rule of thumb here is respect for Michael as an artist, an entertainer, a humanitarian and human being. > I am seeking justice and closure for what happened to him, as well as hoping that eventually his name and legacy will be fully exonerated by the media.
>>383885>None of the items seized from Neverland fit the legal definition of child pornography, and in fact many of the items that are currently creating the most media hysteria were not pornographic at all. They were legal art books
This is such weak cope. "Legal art books"? Take a look at what is actually there (funny how HuffPost pointedly doesn't show many examples of this "art" or even list the names of the photography books), read the names of the photographers featured, look up their names, read what they have to say about children, and tell me more about how this isn't exactly what it looks like. So, MJ did have "nude photographs". >This isn’t to say that Jackson didn’t own any pornography at all. The truth was that a sizable amount of adult heterosexual pornography had been confiscated in the raid
So, MJ also had hardcore adult pornography. The article defends him and says it's all because of his own adult tastes, but explain how out of 700 magazines, only 9 of his own fingerprints were found on these. It clearly wasn't for him. The legal definition of CP is more arbitrary, but pedophiles typically deliberately try to skirt around that line legally, and it doesn't change what's there.
Confirmed by your own source. Thanks.
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also, take a look at the totally not creepy reviews of the book by 'othoniaboys'. this is shit by pedos for pedos, period
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yeah sure she's dating this guy because she likes his personality
Idk how you can honestly read that MJ had TWO books filled with little naked boys and somehow still defend him. As an anon who was on the fence about all this, seeing that really makes it clear as day. He was a fucking pedophile
I really hope neither of you anons ever have children, yall the type to look the other way and make excuses when it turns out your man's a pedo hurting your kids.
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https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/bhad-babie-to-be-marketing-as-a-%E2%80%9Cwoman-of-color-by-atlantic-records.2209464/>Atlantic records is allegedly planning to represent “Cash me outside” rapper Bhad babie as a “woman of color”.
>An insider close to the label’s marketing team explains; They’re really being subtle with the changes, but ultimately the goal is for her to “present” as a woman of color. Now this, doesn’t mean that they’d actually label her a woman of color. They’re simply grooming her in a way that would resonate with more audiences- from her hair, to her weight and even to tanning salons. They’re investing a lot of time, money and effort into the execution of this strategy and their hope is that it will pay off.
tl;dr: Atlantic is supposedly going to have Danielle Bregoli pull an Ariana Grande.
Apparently, record companies have realized from Cardi B and Grande's success that they can harvest a certain community's musical stylings (and money) without actually employing artists from that community by slapping deep tans and ghetto behavior on Italian, Jewish and Latin people. Wonder how long it'll last.
Yes I agree, kinda want to screencap these lolcow posts/copy pastes and post them elsewhere. But I think any man who goes out of his way to surround himself with children without educational or mentoring capacity is dodgy. The books just prove he had a sick interest in little boys. Some guy is defending him on Twitter because he personally
wasn't raped so it must not be true
I guess all the cultural appropriation/blackfishing arguments just had the exact opposite effect. Now doing just that is what gets lackluster artists recognized and talked about.
On top of that, people today have absolute shit taste in music, but are all about memes and aesthetics, so they'll buy records more because the artist is a polarizing, topical public figure than because they're actually talented.
The internet really has been a mixed bag when it comes to its effects on the mainstream music industry, lmao.
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I wonder how jack black feels about this.
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R.Kelly cries a lot and has a meltdown and tries to manipulate the narrative. He basically says shit like: "Do you think I'm stupid enough to do the things I'm accused of??", "Everything is a lie", "I love my kids and I just want to be a good father". This is like a day before he JUST got arrested for having like, $160K+ in outstanding child support payments. Missed payments becomes like a felony offence at $20K or so.
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Clips of the interview have been uploaded to Twitter, maybe those won't be region blocked?
Here's the clip of him screaming at the cameras. Starts at 1:10https://twitter.com/deray/status/1103277540314177541
the big heart comment refers to the millions he's so generously paid off to his accusers/victims
to shut them up or settle out of court.
it's part of the reason he's broke now, so we should all feel super bad for him
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>"When I first met Robert, my parents told me to lie about my age, so when I met him he thought that I was 18," Clary alleged to King, denying that she ever had sex with R. Kelly when she was 17. "On top of that, when I was 17, my parents were actually making me, trying to get me to take photos with him, take sexual videos with him—all kinds of stuff…because if they ever have to blackmail him, what they're trying to do now, they can use it against him, which is exactly what they're doing."
>"I'm crying because you guys don't know the truth. You guys are believing some f–king fascade that our parents are saying. This is all f–king lies for money and if you can't see that, you're ignorant and you're stupid as f–k because you want to be all—because that's the world we live in."
Do you believe them?
She's being as hysterical as R. Kelly was
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I feel bad for laughing at this https://twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1103405202911227915>>384383
out here sounding like Corey Feldman
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Even Corey Feldmen isn't defending this monster anymore.
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Pete's new tattoo.
>9 with Ariana
Whoa! Wow, never thought he would change his mind. So much of his identity, performance, and style copy and emulate Michael. Will we see him drastically makeover in short order?
Is he still shopping his own documentary around? I know he finally titled it Truth: The Rape of Two Coreys.
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Does anyone know why Brie Larson and Captain Marvel are getting so much shit? I must have been living under a rock because there are constant threads about it on 4chan's /tv/ but I can't figure out wether she actually did something wrong or if they're just childish men screaming about "her ass being too flat"
oh man, they really hate women there don't they? I should stop going to that place
Thanks for explaining anon
she's just boring in the same way superman is boring. zero flaws, zero conflict. they invented her so they could give the company name to a hero and pander to seventies feminists.
there's about five people i'd have put up for the first female led marvel flick and she's not one of them.
lol no. There is no doubt that MJ is a pedo. But I despise Corey Feldman and people like Oprah who change sides at their advantage.>>384441
People are talking about them. Fame = Money. If MJ were still alive they would lick his shoes to be part of his life. Let's be realistic here.
I am happy for them that they can finally speak up, tho. One of them seems to be really fond of Michael still and it's horrible to think about it.
Read this: >>372562>>372756
(this if the first one isn't working) and try again.
>>384501>they would lick his shoes to be part of his life
I think that anon meant people like Corey or Oprah, not the victims
i've got so many people I know kissing his arse on my timeline shit like 'they just want money! a dead man can't defend himself' and it's so disappointing this is exactly why victims
don't come forward
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Jennette McCurdy wrote an opinion piece about having an eating disorder. Not saying she's a cow at all, just found it interesting.
>Another thing I soon learned about eating disorders in Hollywood was that they can be highly competitive. Highly. Competitive. I encountered countless famous actresses, singers and entertainment personalities with eating disorders and found out there was a kind of “disordered eating hierarchy” in young Hollywood, with anorexia reigning over bulimia.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jennette-mccurdy-eating-disorder_n_5c812d61e4b0e62f69ea8363
ahhh, jen is my favorite, absolutely! i hear you that she's attached to the hulk so perhaps they felt weird about using her but tbh she's just plain cool af and way more interesting than carol. my other favorite who i believe could one hundred percent carry a stand-alone, and probably should have due to the fact she was already intro'ed, is scarlet witch. reality warpers are my jam. i think the dark phoenix movie is going to be amazing, though. i'm super psyched.
people with carol's powerset are just meh for me and for me they were way too worried about using someone from a team. who gives a shit, really? i'd straight up watch a sue storm stand-alone, no worries. most of the people going to see this don't know all that much about comics anyhow, write whatever the hell you want.
not trying to be bitchy just ranting!
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I like the comics, haven't seen the movie yet but I will be as unbiased as possible. >mfw we didn't get the cute version with short hair>>384601
Wait what? Spill the milk
i remember a lot of people (read: fanboys) got super pissed because when stan lee died, brie posted a photo of herself sitting with a glass of wine and captioned it something like "thinking about stan lee, r.i.p" which people found kinda disrespectful/insensitive
other than that, it seems like people just find her…unlikable? tbh i'm one of them, i can't explain it but for some reason i just don't like her, it's been this way since like 2010. like >>384615
said, a visceral reaction.
people also hate how her face stays the same all the time. stone-faced and the occasional smirk. there was that whole "why doesn't captain marvel ever smile in the promos" complaint from fans but the response was "you wouldn't ask a man to smile!!!" so it was shut down pretty quick. although i admit brie can be very robotic in her films, it's creepy
OT, but fuck this is exactly the kind of women i'm attracted to. I like women with short hair.>>384442
I havent seen the movie yet, but i cant stand Brie larson as an actor. She's boring and they really could have chosen anyone better for that role. She's only getting hate cuz men hate anything woman centered.
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Ironic how for someone who teased someone else for the way they look, she's now the one being called ugly, flatass and stuff. Karma at its finest>>384639
It's David Marquez's art. Civil War II was pretty awful story wise, but the art was beautiful and short haired Carol is best Carol.
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Bussy Smollet's been indicted - 16 felonies!
you cant POSSIBLY be sane if you think shipping fake anthrax to yourself is ok lol
like thats so next level and the amount of serious trouble it will bring you is no joke
if they didnt get him for the fake hate crime, the fake anthrax mail would have him put away for a real large chunk of time