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I imagine it's the>tfw no shota bf
and>wahhh fuckin Stacies
Probably something like "kill all men". >>367225
As a lesbian this is so annoying. Don't call it that.
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>>367225>letting him nut
i think denial is better. i have fun then just tell them to go home
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I just got out of a toxic friendship and it turns out I was too retarded to realize this guy was basically a pedophilia sympathizer and defender. As soon as I left and the friendship and stopped caring he proceeded to tell people I'm insane for having BPD. Is gaslighting this fucking common? I know BPD has that evil mastermind stigma but fuck dude.
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add me to the list of being repulsed by this hetero normie sex discussion
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I have been waiting all the time to post stuff from my place:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/02/poland-drops-plan-legalise-one-off-cases-domestic-violence/
"Poland's prime minister has shelved plans to redefine the definition of domestic violence so that it only applies to spouses who are beaten more than once, a move critics said would make it difficult to prosecute abusers."
Government withdrew from that project, for now at least..
Heard it got passed in Russia tho, any anon can confirm?
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Is that even a thing? I remember one time seeing a post where a demented anon admitted to perving on young boys and the other farmers jumped her telling her to neck herself.
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It's honestly incredible seeing the difference of how women react to that and how men do, specifically on these boards. Women are usually quick to shut that shit down while men just encourage it but that shouldn't surprise anyone lmao
Makes me want to never have kids and risk the chance of exposing them to these psychos.>>367264>Heard it got passed in Russia tho, any anon can confirm?
God that sounds awful, I've heard Russia is a pretty bad place for women.
Hmm on second thought some of those yaoi-obsessed transtrender chicks and some varieties of fujo do say concerning things but from what I've seen lolcow farms has been good about telling potential pedophiles to kill themselves.>>367278
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Were there seriously women saying they wanted a shota bf? I lost track in the past couple threads and I'm pretty worried now about us stooping that low.
i hate how many people say that shit to me too! it's usually men. like fuck off, i am not a baby incubator. it's not the fucking 18th century, i can decide to not have sex/use contraceptives/abort if i so choose to.
i understand most women develop maternal feelings at some point, but i'm sick of men reducing women who say "nah, kids aren't for me, at all. never wanted any." into emotional creatures who will suddenly and helplessly develop maternal feelings like it's some baby loving bug.
i dont have any resources but i can relate. it's basically just me and my mom in our family and she has been growing more and more radical in general, but very recently she has been cyber cheating with a married man of all people, fml and has expressed wanting to marry him if he leaves his wife. i'm legit worried that i'm going to lose my Grey Gardens (but more radical and financially stable) dream to this douchebag who is cheating on his wife by trying to bag my mom (and who knows who else?).
she keeps insisting that if she and him get together and he recognizes what he has done is wrong and commits to never doing it again, it's fine, and that i'm being a dictator trying to ruin her marriage fantasy. men ruin everything.
I find that's not so true for my mom? Shes always told me that if a man acts like a shit to walk away, dont tolerate disrespect. It makes me angry when other members of my family say negative things about her not being married, or not being interested in matrimony.
I just want to show her that there is this thing called feminist ideas and she is a great role model but has been put down and lied to by a fucked up misogynist society. My mom is a spinster and its awesome because she is happy and successful and I want to smack every person who belittles her because she doesn't have a man.
>>367385>Shes always told me that if a man acts like a shit to walk away, dont tolerate disrespect.
no, mine too, and she has always taken pride in being a single working mother, it's just lately she has been desiring marriage because she feels like some fomo bc all of her friends are married and are pushing the marriage meme and she sees how their lives are easier, financially, because their husbands are actually a decent financial support system despite them being a shit in basically every other way, and she's just smitten with this guy now.
>but has been put down and lied to by a fucked up misogynist society. My mom is a spinster and its awesome because she is happy and successful and I want to smack every person who belittles her because she doesn't have a man.
maybe you can push her away from religion? i think that's the source of that kind of stupid bullshit because my mom is secular and i don't find that she's belittled so much as she's like, encouraged to be in a relationship for "the happiness". not in a negative way, just in a "look at all the perks!!!" type way. either way, all around, we're encouraged to get married, especially when you're older, and it's such a meme that might be smooth sailing for a while, but is ultimately such a life-ruiner for so many women.
she's actually got a lot of friends and does well socially. she normally doesn't fall for shit like this. she hasn't desired much in the past bc she does lose attraction easily. it's just that there's something 'magnetic' about this guy. something something fiery latino lead singer with some famous argentinian popstar son. i can see what's appealing about the situation because he's well to do with famous family, and i know the marriage thing isnt what's drawing her to him, but she's getting increasingly pissy with me for shitting on him and the prospect of a life with him. she refuses to believe that he's probably talking to like a million other women too and it's straining our relationship. so disappointing.
i've tried to get her to speak to other men, but they all suck major ass too, so i can't, in earnest, recommend anyone else. the few that seemed decent she tells me have 'no chemistry'. i s2g if she gives up on our beautiful bouvier-beale lifestyle for a scuzzy philandering loser i will lose my shit
Some people are just gifted with silver tongues, who knows what he is saying that is so convincing. Just because your mom got pregnant doesn't mean she was romantically experienced enough to know how to spot red flags.
Regardless I should be prepared for this situation to implode.
I hate that they use it to justify their behaviour, but I find it hard to believe that it's not 'natural' or 'normal' for men. Natural or normal do not mean acceptable or okay. It's just that men are naturally inclined to certain toxic traits, no doubt socialization makes it worse but there is just something inherently wrong with them.
There's no reason to assume everyone is naturally moral and empathetic and men and women are just not on the same team, biologically speaking. The x chromosome is too weak to ever allow us control over the means of reproduction, hence the myriad of issues men have with women.
Gonna share an audiobook of one of my favorite books, it's useful in telling you to listen to your instincts to avoid creepshttps://youtu.be/Cyll9t84dKI
I especially liked what he said in one of his interviews about how when men say "no", it's the end of the discussion but when a woman says "no", it's the beginning of a negotiation and that charm is not a trait but a tool.
Stay safe out there ladies.
That's men, they all have this fantasy where all women secretly want and will only ever be fufilled by a married with kids type life, no matter how happy you are, no matter your age, no matter what you do, they will always jump through hoops to convince themselves women actually wanted kids all along and anyone who says otherwise is a bitter feminazi, but for some reason, praise MGTOW and claim MGTOW is true happiness, by choice, etc.
Basically to them
Single man = happy mgtow bachelor who is rich
Single woman = evil undesirable woman who is going to grow old and inevitably want kids
best chance to neutralize a threat. one of the first rules in self defense is maintaining space and that's where the gun is great since close combat is risky. And from videos I've seen of armed people defending themselves, the attackers bolt the second the other side starts shooting back.
A great quote I remember was "I carry a gun because I can't carry a policeman"
speaking of which, learning to disarm attackers is always good to learn toohttps://youtu.be/1X1ZfXQfcb0
A girl in my hometown got raped because her attacker put a gun behind her like in the video, forced her into her car, drove it, raped her and then left her.
I can't stress enough the importance of having situational awareness that could have prevented this situation in the first place though.
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Gonna post some articles about education:https://collegepuzzle.stanford.edu/tag/women-exceed-men-in-college-graduation/https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-education-gap/546677/>In the 1970s, as more women started attending college, they started graduating at higher and higher rates, while men’s enrollment and graduation rates remained relatively flat. But until recently, the women attending college were mostly from elite families. Now, women from lower-income families are increasingly attending college.
>Some of the problem is that boys from low-income families appear to struggle more in school than girls do. They lag behind as early as kindergarten even though health tests show that, at the time of birth, they are just as healthy and cognitively able to learn as their sisters, a recent paper found. This is partly because they appear to be more affected by poverty and stress than girls are.
>School quality is also more important for boys than for girls, Figlio said, and since many low-income families attend poor-quality schools, their sons, who are already lagging behind their daughters, fall even further behind.
>The notion of what it means to be a boy and a man, especially among lower working-class boys, makes it such that they see doing well in school as something that girls and women do, and they don’t want any part of it.
How retarded do you have to be to feed young boys such terrible values that harm them? But girls from poor homes have to deal with it and adapt quicker.
I don't measure our worth in physical strength so I can ignore them putting us down for being weak. It really bothers me when they say it about our intellectual capabilities, but we are proving them more and more wrong every day. They refuse to acknowledge intelligent women no matter how numerous they are, they want to believe we're useless outside of our vaginas (because that would give us an alternative to babymaking as a career) so that's all they see. They also refuse to acknowledge the endless herds of dumbshit men and act like the tiny minority of male geniuses represent all of them.
Anyway, I do get what you mean. It's a slippery slope trying to attribute anything to biology and evolution because it can lead to unfair stereotypes. But I just find male aggression towards women too consistent, widespread and extreme to just dismiss as social conditioning. If I say that then I have to accept that maybe there are some gendered traits that apply to us too, but we have no flaws as terrible the male predisposition towards subjugating and dehumanizing half the population.
>>367604>They also refuse to acknowledge the endless herds of dumbshit men and act like the tiny minority of male geniuses represent all of them.
It's the same as "men won WW1 and WW2" when men also lost it and started it.
>But I just find male aggression towards women too consistent, widespread and extreme to just dismiss as social conditioning
You are right there, gotta wonder whether it's as simple as humans with any form of power always abusing it. When it comes to the relationship between entitlement and lack of social skills + understanding for others, you can't tell which came first.
Anon, I feel for you because my first two years working and going to college after my grandmother died were hard. I had similar experiences to you and know that bitterness from dealing with that BS and people blowing it off with things like…
>it’s not a big deal>it’s a compliment!>he’s just being friendly!>you’ll miss it when you get old>you should smile more and be friendly, you never know who you may meet!
It isn’t ‘normal’, and I wish people were more open minded to this sort of abuse because it happens every day and never really goes away. Plus it can be scary because you never know how far someone may push your boundaries.
I wish I could give you the one size fits all solution but unfortunately I can’t. The only thing I can say anon is that changing my demeanor has seemed to stymie a lot of the harassment I used to get a few years back. Stand tall, walk with purpose, be confident. It has nothing to do with clothes because I’m girly and love dressing up and saw no difference when I dressed down or up. You have a right to your individuality and a right to say no or yes to whomever you please. Now I get more comments that I’m not friendly or approachable, which makes me roll my eyes internally, so it’s like you can never win. But be safe anon, it’s really hard. I’m sorry I can only offer you my shit advice.
Even worse is when you are fat and some dude thinks that means you're gonna take any attention you get as a blessing.
I was at a fast food restaurant the other day of all places eating lunch while waiting for my bus home. Some guy in his fourties or so sits down opposite of me without even asking, so I promptly take my tray and moved to another table without even looking at him or talking to him.
He didn't follow me, but at the end of my meal as I was packing my stuff, he came over just to berate me for being rude and hurtful for not staying with him. I told him that I was not in the mood to talk to a stranger, and he tells me I should be grateful that a guy would give a fatty like me any attention at all.
It's creepy how many guys you'll see openly liking it and saying how anyone who criticizes them is an SJW and how they're just fictional characters. It's the most stupid line of defense considering the appeal is specifically an undeveloped body.
Comparatively you'd have to dig very deep nowadays in the west to find shotacon stuff that wasn't made by guys self inserting. Even a lot of more dangerous kinky art with men seems to have died in fandoms on tumblr and twitter, now there's a push to be more wholesome and to shame fujos.
I went to a doctor (who unfortunately happened to be male, I prefer female doctors when talking about birth control and things like that) to ask if I could get sterilized. In my country we have this list of things and you need to check at least one so you could get sterilized, and it has things like "unable to take care of offspring", "would get serious health risks if pregnant", "has 3 or more children", "is over 30". I am not 30 yet, but I checked some of the other things on the list, such as other bc not working on me (hormones make me crazy for example) and not being able to take care of the offspring. The doctor, of course, first asked if I have a partner and if he agrees with me getting sterilized (what a bullshit question), and when I started to tell him why I feel like I need the procedure, he laughed at my face and ridiculed me. I felt so fucking humiliated, like why wouldn't he just tell me that it's not possible and my reasonings are not enough for it to be legal, why laugh at me? I was okay with going to male doctors about other things, but this left such a bad taste in my mouth I feel like only going to female doctors after this. Fuck my life.
>>367697>everyone was calling the women selfish cunts and encouraging the men to shame their wives into letting them in and stuff like that.
Typical male socialization, instead of wondering what he
did wrong to have her not want him be in the delivery room, he instead insists that she
is crazy for excluding him. It's always the woman's fault. How dare he have to examine his own behaviour.
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my mom's a midwife, most of the time both parents are present at the birth (the woman giving birth and her partner).
tbf, most of the tv shows pick the "juiciest" births, some guys act supportive. robbie williams has to be the biggest spaz though, he was live tweeting his wife giving birth. he was acting like the biggest attention whore, absolutely unhinged. i wouldn't be surprised if he was on drugs.https://twitter.com/robbiewilliams/status/526847156192571392
Welcome back MH, but can we have a less fetishy pic next time?>>367535>charm
I have been following the Vic Mignogna stuff with fascination (thread in /w/)
He is a textbook narc abuser, but there are so many female fans defending him online with "he was nice and charming to me that one time we met". People are fucking dumb and naive about this. >>367551
I am worried about the new movie glamorizing him. I saw a reviwer write that it was too sympathetic towards him.
NTA But I like it more than gross photos and articles that are supposed to enrage you when seeing them, I prefer non serious OP pics. It's not even close to a fetishy artstyle, so the sperging about it seems forced. >so many female fans
All the comments under ANNs newest article that say "since when is it guily until proven innocent?" are by neckbeards, let's not forget that.
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some humorous pics for future OPs
I get you, however, I saw works by the same artist in other threads and it is fetish stuff. I don't want real reasons for manhate be confused as femdom fetish.
Yes Vic is defended by neckbeards as well! Ones that appear to think that groping teenage girls is no big deal, what is consent?
>>367621>treat men like predators in the wild
I've heard guys say avoid us but when women do to protect themselves in public, you'll have guys complain about women for being rude or paranoid. https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/7ynwwx/women_who_avoid_walking_near_men_in_public_are/https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/65x4gx/cmv_women_who_fear_random_men_are_being_sexist/dgdzwdy
You can't win with them so protect yourself always.>>367697
Where do you live anon? The men in my family didn't go into the delivery rooms when their wives delivered but it's so common in the west in general. Can't imagine going through something so painful and humiliating with all those nurses and doctors only to be called a selfish cunt after..
im from eastern europe, its not normal in my country for a man to go in but ive heard its becoming more common.
ill never understand why so many men cant understand that childbirth isnt about them. like you said its painful and humiliating, especially with so many people in the room, but at least the doctors and nurses are there to make sure you and the baby are alive and healthy instead of offering half hearted support or acting like a retard. the men who genuinely think they have some innate right to be in the delivery room disgust me, it comes off as selfish and violating. they also seem like they have really bad womb envy tbh.
Thank you for the cleanser anon>>367643>it’s a complement!
Jesus who even says shit like this
Being oogled at or harassed by some creep is NOT a compliment. God that justification gets me so steamed, there’s a huge difference between complimenting someone and treating them like an inhuman piece of meat.
honestly, if you want him in there then i dont see the big deal. but the attitudes that many men have towards this is genuinely scary. i know this thread is old, but a lot of the replies in this thread are genuinely scary:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/31u31q/how_would_you_feel_if_you_were_asked_to_not_be_in/
theres someone who would consider breaking up with their wife/gf because she doesnt want them present at a fucking private, painful and humiliating medical procedure, this bullshit has gone too far.
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This thread is INFURIATING. Male entitlement at it's finest.
Dude you are worth way less than a doctor in a delivery room.
also, the extra stress on the mother could be dangerous for both the mother and the baby, so hes also being a selfish prick, and hed actually be making the doctors work harder.
but obviously his want to have a ~uwu special amazing life changing experience~ outweighs his wifes/gfs need to have a safe birth.
there is absolutely no use of them being there tbh, unless the mother wants them i guess. theres a reason for why they werent typically present for the last few million years.
a lot of men who agressively insist on being present reek of womb envy. knowing men, a lot of them probably have a fetish for this kind of shit too.
>>367827>the person>my child
this is how men see women and children. just some person carrying their
child. not their wife, not their lifelong partner they share every waking moment with. and not a human life or brand new person being brought into the world. just some fucking piece of property carrying another piece of property.
youre right. ive seen men online treat it like its a spectator sport, they think its some unique uwu once in a life time special experience as opposed to a medical procedure and get aggressive if you inform them that theyre not welcome. imagine your husband/bf describing you giving birth to a bunch of strangers online, i havent even given birth yet and it feels extremely violating, i cant even begin to imagine how the women whose husbands reveal this shit would feel. 99% of the time theyre just in the way and being annoying. the one and only thing they did right in the 1950s was not allowing scrots into the delivery room.
again, im glad this isnt normal in my country and i hope it never becomes a normal expected part of life like in america.>>367944
ive always noticed that men always talk about "my" child, its never "our" child its always "my" child. its always "IM going to see the birth of MY child ME ME ME ME ME" as if the child itself, half its genome and its entire mitochondrial DNA just materialised out of thin air.
does anyone else remember when that woman from 90 day fiance was constantly being shat on because she referred to her baby as "my" as opposed to "our"? but no one mentions it when men do it.
ugh, there are generally two outcomes when you initiate socializing
1. you're accepted
2. you're rejected
And if it's a stranger approaching another stranger, I'd say the odds are even higher in being rejected.
So it boggles my mind that a guy who tries to socialize without being prepared to get rejected throws a bitch-fit. It doesn't matter if the girl is below average in looks, if the chance to be rejected is always there, they should learn to take it civilly. It just makes them look stupid when they have to lick their wounds by insulting the person.
Jesus, they act like not being there the very second the baby pops out is like not being allowed to see the baby at all for weeks or something. Do they not realize that they can come in as soon as the baby is out and washed? This reminds me of all the stories where the fathers faint in the delivery room, distracting the nurses and doctors from the actual MEDICAL PROCEDURE at hand. Not to mention the one where the father attacked the doctor because he thought the baby got injured or something.
Especially that one reply, "literally if anyone other than my SO asked/told me to leave I would tell them to find a cactus and fuck themselves", was incredibly idiotic, and as someone from a family of doctors that one made me seriously irritated. If a fucking DOCTOR asks you to move out of the way during, again, A MEDICAL PROCEDURE, you comply and move the fuck out of the way. Imagine trying to do your job ensuring the safety of the woman and her child, and her husband starts throwing a fit because it's all about HIM and HIS FEEEEELINGS.
This has been evident, especially as a black woman. When 9 times out of 10 if there is another black person in a upper level college class they are a girl, unless it's an male African immigrant. Now people are shaming us because the gap is so alarmingly obvious compared to other races that I've had family tell me to remember to wait for their "come up", which means to "marry down".
It's funny because my parents before have always been telling me to worry about myself and never do anything for a man. Now my friends and I are getting conflicting messages. Unfortunately, I believe it's because they're afraid I would end up dating/ marrying someone non-black, since it's getting harder to find someone that looks like you AND is successful as you (at least has a roof over their head and a non-criminal record). And I'm not that successful in the grand scheme of things. If asking for someone that graduated from college, could keep a job (financially secure) and have a car is selfish then I'll "go my own way" becuase it's getting ridiculous. The men can't use the race argument because I'm black like them. We both get targeted and discriminated. We both statistically live in poor neighborhoods and deal with terrible teachers and shit schools, so I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
You're seeing black single mothers with 3 kids getting a college degree now and idk what the fuck is up with men.
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Their inevitable future.
>In June 2018, Toshihiro Nikai, the secretary general of the ruling Liberal Democratic party [LDP], described couples who decide not to have children as “selfish”, and cited the postwar baby boom as evidence that hardship needn’t be an obstacle to having bigger families.
>Two months earlier Kanji Kato, an LDP lawmaker, said women should have “at least three children” and warned those who preferred to remain single that they would become a burden on the state.
>He said he told single women that “if they don’t get married then they won’t be able to have children, and that they’ll end up in a care home paid for with the taxes of other people’s children”.
>In 2007 the then health minister, Hakuo Yanagisawa, described women as “birth-giving machines” and said it was their public duty to increase the birthrate.
I'm happy for all the women who are having more fun being single and chose it, in a country where sexism and outdated gender roles are pushing them to give up on their own careers and slave for a family.
This, the second article talks about the jump when it comes to race.
If you take a look at some less developed countries you'll see a higher rate of women aiming for more difficult degrees, my theory is that it's about wanting to get out of their environment so they aim higher to be able to become independent more easily. You do you anon and choose what makes you happy, your family will probably chill eventually since they had different opinions before, parents can go through phases of insecurity about the future of their children.
Ah, glorious Nippon, the holy land.
Why are so many people fucking obsessed with this country and all of its backwards practices, I don’t understand why so many people, weebs or not, seem to think that living in this sexually repressed, overworked, mysoginistic, high sexual assault, highly xenophobic country is the dream.
to be fair I don't completely understand what the redpill ideology even is
cause I have heard they are MRA's,Incels and also basic fuck-boys all at once
"birth giving machines" is a new one tbh. Love the classic "let's blame women instead of our own bullshit outdated work over socializing system that fucks over everyone" coming from none other than Japan where women have their own train because molestation and predators were too much of a problem.
Are there any japananons here who can give their input?
PUAs and the red pill aren't really the same.
The Red Pill is a Matrix reference to "taking the red pill" aka waking up and realizing the world you live in is a lie. TRP believers think that feminism isn't needed because we live in a liberal soyboy matriarchy, the mainstream media is run by women and "betas" who worship women, and all women are stupid whores who cheat and need to be subservient to "alphas". Usually crosses over with other forms of conservative ideology too.
Pick Up Artists are a community of men and so called "seduction experts" who think there is a one size fits all way to get many women to sleep with you. Their only goal is to go to clubs and get laid really. There is some crossover with TRP, but there are liberal dudes who are part of the PUA community. They're all just dudes who aren't afraid to admit that they see women as objects to be owned.
Incels are men who have never slept with a woman before, and therefore are usually scammed by PUA experts who take their coins to sell them shitty dating advice and books.
That's why the MGTOW guys hate both of them, because those communities rely so much on eventually getting into a relationship with a woman.
There is overlap between all these groups, but the main thing they have in common is that they hate women.
I've seen men convinced that postpartum depression is because the baby gets more attention than the woman, but turn around and act like big babies if the attention is on the child and not on them
Everything men say about women, just flip the switch and it will be true. I'm convinced the entire MGTOW movement is projection
Ot but the /gfd/ tag, especially on 4chan, is overrun with shotaxmilf hentai. It's disgusting. The general threads used to focus on relationships with assertive girls but now it's just robots that want a mommy type to fuck them, give them headpats and make them tendies whilst they make no effort themselves, men ruin everything even their own fetishes
I really hope that lc radfems don't become connected to shota, pedophiles are gross no matter which gender
Perhaps ot but an issue I have with fujos is that many have strongly internalized misogyny, to the point of eww girls and female sexuality are gross only men are ok. Like the homophobic one on here some time ago who called anons who liked straight ships "lesbians" because women shouldn't look at art with women in it. This is how a lot of fakebois start out. Hating on women and glorifying men. Then they end up trooning out and hating on the fujos that they actually are, kek.
But I will defend fujos from any straight man. It is as you say.
Actual radical feminism can't be combined with pedophilia since a large part of it is protecting women and children from abuse.
Some anons on here (not radfem) connects radfem and femdom on lc to each other though, it is funny because radfem is critical of bdsm.
I don't blame anyone for being confused by the op pic here though.
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Calling someone kiddo and asking them if they want kids is emotional abuse according to incels
Man, imagine if a woman cried abuse from the least inoffensive situations like so, she would be all over the internet and used as proof as to why women's abuse can't be taken seriously
I think a girl having an older brother is ideal for both. The guy learns how to take care of children and the girl gets to play with "male" toys from her brother that improve cognitive abilities (unlike most "female" toys).
Children are gonna be exposed to enough gender segregated activities/toys anyways (in kindergarten/with friends), so making sure that they get to experience both
at home seems important.
The pink pill is that men are actually scum and not at all victims like they portray themselves to be.
The red pill: >waahhh women just want chads!>women are all whores! They will cheat on you and take your money! >wake up people women’s love is transactional! >the media just wants you to protect women who already have more advantages than they need
The pink pill>men harbor violent and entitled attitudes towards women>men treat women as subhuman or property>men will not hesitate to treat women like crap, and then call themselves the victim>men are quick to put down women while saying they are boring, used goods, sheeple, dramatic - unaware they are all those themselves and more. Vidya and anime is somehow a better hobby than “lmao all women do is shop eat and Netflix”
That’s my understanding of it so far. I was introduced to TRP a few years ago and so brainwashed into that and chanology that I grew to hate women too, until I found this manhate thread and realized why I always felt angry when they showed hate towards women even if “the red pill” is “objectively the truth.” (Eg. All women are whores) You can’t be mad at the truth, I thought, but why did I always feel like it was somehow wrong? So I’m glad I found the pink pill and it balances out my ying-yang of hatred.
A while ago I asked is there a noFap equivalent for women, since men seem convinced noFap gives them unbridled confidence and spiritual enlightenment. You can imagine the responses:
>no, women are incapable of spiritual enlightenment, they are like animals
>throughout history, spiritual enlightenment is reserved for males.
>women already have it on easy mode they don’t need to do anything to get sex
Interestingly, after being dismayed that it will be harder for me to find “spiritual enlightenment” a while later when I forgot about this I came upon an essay about “genius” and art. It says that the idea of men being somehow geniuses and virtuosos actually came from a mistranslation of a Greek word and inaccurate ancient medical theories. The word Genius was confused with Ingenuity during the Renaissance. Genius came from a Greek word that means “producing seed” and is used to describe the male of a species. Ingenuity means cleverness, (producing ideas). These two words became mixed up and used interchangeably was adopted that men are smarter than women.
Next, the idea that men receive spiritual enlightenment comes from a hilariously outdated medical theory. It started from the Ancient Greek idea that men are “hot and dry” and women are “cold”, because it takes heat to produce sperm while women must be cold and wet to receive it - their evidence? “Well, men MUST be hot because their genitals are on the outside!”
Later, the idea of the four humors came about, bile, blood, black bile etc. I don’t remember which humor it was, but the idea was that an excess of it would drive people to madness. In the woman, that madness lead to emotional “hysterica” because their womb, which is cold and wet, would hold all the bile there, where as in men, the same bile would be wafted up into the brain and through the energy of “hot and dry” convert it into spiritual enlightenment and let them see ideas.
So now whenever I hear “men are smarter than women” or “only men can be geniuses/ men are more talented” I remember that these “truths” men accept unquestioningly are actually based on Ancient Greek ideas that men are “hot and dry” and bile theories that there actually exists 4 humors of the body. Who’s the stupid one now?
It truly is fascinating to me that men can parrot these ideas and feelings but not once actually do the work you did to find the historical stories and truths behind them. Like, none of them actually put any effort into researching what they actually believe in and think, they just keep spouting the same tired lies.
Maybe that is why they hate radical feminism so much. Because you actually have to research, investigate and open your fucking eyes to understand what it's saying. It's not something that can be parroted, because it takes real, genuine effort to participate in it. You get absolutely no where with radical feminism if you don't do your own work and the community certainly has strict vetting processes (or fake feminists out themselves by revealing their half-baked thoughts on prostitution/bdsm/men).
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I don't know where this idea that women can't achieve spiritual enlightenment came from. There are many female saints in Christianity, pic related which is Saint Helena is an example. Anyone who thinks that women can't achieve spiritual enlightenment is mistaken.
I…did not know that people think only men can be spiritual
Pretty funny since the vast majority of people who believe in spirituality and non-proven brain power things, self help, angels and all that jazz are WOMEN
Love my COLD AND WET womb.
Also weird how the theory of "bile" moving up into the brain of males to make them smarter is similar to nofap in a way. Keep the jizz in and your thoughts clarify and shit.
There's a Buddhist text that says a woman can never be a Buddha, and some other stories and texts that say similar shit, or outright say women can hinder a mans enlightenment. But then there's also texts that say women can achieve enlightenment. I'm no expert on Buddhism though, but that was one of the first examples that popped to mind.
So yeah, "women can't be spiritually enlightened" is definitely a thing in many religions and spiritualities. I think I saw something once about how women can't achieve spirituality because we "give birth and are too tied to the earth" or some shit. So, as usual, the fact that we can give birth prevents us from achieving things men can achieve, in their minds.
Idk my own older brother used to bully me, and my ex who was the older brother of two younger sisters was robot tier and bitter his little sister was more social and had a bf (and sex) before he did. Literally Elliot Roger tier of bitterness. And I've read so many stories of some older brother or his friends who take advantage of the younger sister. They go through puberty first and become "curious" and the little sister becomes an easy target.
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Another example of men using their own evidence against themselves
A late bloomer thing someone posted today. A guy offering “encouraging advice,” that’s hypocritical, when it’s just putting down women. >ignores all the women listed who were successful that are literally on the same list used as evidence of successful people>yet says they hit a wall>believes women can’t be successful after a certain age>believing the only measure of success for a woman is having a husband and kids>some dude underneath tries to backpeddle and say he means family and fertility.
It’s ridiculous seeing men think women are incapable of success and they only measure women on how beautiful they are or if they have a family. I also hate it when men use women as an example of what not to be, “you are a man! You are strong and hardworking. At least you’re not emotional and weak like women!”
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Wow I guess my turtleneck and jeans were just too tempting to my rapist
An incel nurse? Please God I hope it's fake.. I hope he gets fired someday soon. Imagine him as your nurse, acting fake happy to your face but complain about how much of a whroe and cunt you are for daring to be sick or injured as a woman in his section online later. Imagine him as your coworker, trying to have a nice little convo only to be called a cunt over and over by him in his head because you're pregnant and he goes to dehumanize your child too
They act like this and can't understand why nobody likes them>>368258
But sperm deteriorates too. They shouldn't be having kids later in life either, I'd say past 40 they shouldnt try. And they never take into account women who want to adopt but I guess that's because they hate kids already born needing a parent. They just want to breed
It's all so gross that men still get get over that women can have babies so they still try to keep women tied to that single function in their lives. >>368266>dress modestly
Women in fucking burkas get raped and assaulted. They're so fucking retarded. But also gotta laugh at how barbaric they admit they are >if you do x, he will rape you he's a male human so it's expected
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How to deal with a woman telling you "you don't take me seriously" courtesy of the redpill
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I also want to introduce you all to Janice Fiamengo, btw those tweets are NOT satire, I repeat those are not satire.
Yes unlike girls, boys are 100% pure and noble creatures uwu>>368289
I wonder if Janice feels the same about x-rays and wifi.
On the bright side I am pretty sure this is circlejerking with creative writing, they talk as if trying to advertise their way of life and like they want to seem successful.
Bless parents who teach their daughters to take shit from no one and trust in themselves when it comes to such behaviour.
Even as a woman who would love to have children, if the men around me are basically overgrown children themselves who clearly can't step up to the plate, I would prefer to not have babies. I'm sure there are other women who agree in Japan. "Go give birth now and ruin your life forever, being tied to an unloving, uncaring manchild who will always put his vices and fantasies ahead of reality!".
MGTOW types always seem to be obsessed with what would make the perfect wife or mother. Do they ever look inwards?
Women are suppose to be backwards but it seems like men are the ones stuck in the medieval age where sons mattered more.
Does anyone have any experience with pro life men in general. It's often they care about the baby but hardly ever the woman. Even for rape cases, I see more men wanting women to be forced to carry for 9 months their attackers child. It's fucking disturbing.
"I made her vagina imitate her"- I thought it would be at least a story about queefing. Stunning how many of these porn obsessed losers don't even know what labia are. Besides, imitation is literally the most weak, childish type of negging I could think of. Even women with abyssal self esteem would not find it sexy.
Also lol at mediocre sex session… Probably as close to self critique as they could ever get
Half this list was invented by women lmao
Literally a quick Google search could have told you the insane amount of female contributions to technology, architecture, and medicine
The difference is their contributions are dismissed, men's contributions are used as proof as to why women are dumb and men deserve to be worshipped, similar to how men's mistakes are ignored and women's mistakes are amped up and used as proof as to why women can't do anything but make babies
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This is in response to the “Period Emoji”.
Because periods are now equal to masturbating.
Anything associated with women = sex in their brain.
Plenty of dudes will say shit like "If women can breastfeed in public I should have the right to wipe my dick out and get a bj in public" anything that we do is sexual, that's why you get creeper thinking that women minding their own business are really making a pass at them or humiliating them with their hotness.
What men do is more out of spite and revenge than equality and logic. I was shocked to hear men agreeing that “If male circumcism is legal, women should also be circumcised at birth.” I pointed out there is no medical reason for women to be circumcised, plus the procedure is more invasive and harmful.
There are other instances where they just want to punish the woman, not fight for equality.
Yes. I've seen men compare menstruation and breastfeeding to taking a shit or jerking off. It's so fucking degrading, especially having to breastfeed an infant to taking a shit. Shows you how much they care about motherhood - the only thing women should do according to them>>368394
Of course they'd love to own women and remove all rights to personhood. It'll put power right back into their hands. That's all this is about, power over people to do whatever they'd like without negative consequences. Alot of them get off on women being powerless and needing them
It's the same as those men complaining about women showing cleavage saying "Ah, well! If I went around with my dick out people would call me a creep!"
Because the comparison boobs=genitalia is very logic, us women are too inferior to understand /s
i have an older brother, he's my only sibling and always treated me like fucking shit. makes me confused to see the "younger sister is best friends/close to/protected by big brother" trope… because in my experience, even coming from a good family, it's not like that. at all. my older brother harassed me, hit me, hid things from me, not to mention most of my cousins are boys so i was left out of most things, feeling weird for being a girl.
we have a tape of my grandmother with my brother in the waiting room talking while my mom was giving birth to me. he was completely pissed i was being born and he wasn't getting a little brother. when i was brought home, i was a fucking infant so of course i cried. my brother kept suggesting to take me back to the hospital, lmao. it's funny to me, but also says to me that from the start, he never wanted me around. he was a little goddamned shit most of the time, angry and volatile, prone to breaking things and hitting things. in a way, i learned how to NOT be, from him. even as adults now, guess which one of us is the responsible, calm, intelligent sibling, and which one has had drinking/drug issues, still breaks shit (over a girl not liking him back… then going out to drive and getting a DUI, resulting in him not being able to drive for a year, lol), makes terrible decisions, and got kicked out of college?
men never grow the fuck up. boys need to be raised differently. boys are the ones who are coddled, girls are the ones who are reprimanded. look at how well adjusted women tend to be on average, much more then men are. it starts from parents letting "boys be boys".
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It's testosterone, so it's not direct, but an indirect effect of being a male.
I think I heard somewhere that lesbians are the most aggressive compared to cis and bi women (but still falling behind men). No offense to anyone.
The socialization pays more serious role, though. While the testosterone enables them to be stronger and more aggressive, it's their upbringing that often doesn't teach them to control themselves. It's the fault of the society's "boys being boys" mindset and letting them be aggressive towards each other.
Issa joke anon, based on men thinking multiple partners = giant vag (but one partner 1000 times has no effect)
Though men do sometimes get weirdly slanted penises due to their masturbation angles
The weird thing is that it's assumed you will get a breast implant after a masectomy (at least in my country). Like silicone implanted in a breast which has gone through major trauma is a necessity due to the need to look appealing to men
The one about not letting her take medicine in case she loses her sickly skin tone, jesus. The only thing that matters is their erections apparently
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Why do so many males go out their way to tell everyone what they think is attractive? And why do they completely strip women of their femininity if they don't meet their standards?
If anything it pisses more people off, considering plenty of fat girls have smaller chests than Victorias secret models
But after seeing what they consider small or flat chested, I always have to question what a woman actually looks like if a man claims she's flat chested/has a flat butt
This is something insecure men do. They put down conventionally attractive women specifically (your picture is a great example of that), I'm guessing as an attempt to twist the situation and pretend they're the ones rejecting the women who are way out of their league.
The same men are likely to complain about having to "settle" for women in their actual league, though.
Yeah very ironic considering they have the "be gone thot" meme
I doubt very few of them have actually been hit on by a "thot" though
If women committed 1/1000th of the atrocities that men on an everyday basis do, we'd have our rights taken away and be right back in the kitchen before we could say "patriarchy".
The fact that men are still in charge is baffling tbh. They have shown again and again that they can't be trusted with freedom, they just use it to cause others harm, women's uprise when
what are boob nazis?
off the top of my head I assume its the moms still breastfeeding their 5 year olds
There are women who sexually abuse children, but they are very rare compared to the amount of men who do it.
If only men committed crime at the same rate as women…then society would be very peaceful.
>>368778>Can someone tell me what the actual fuck is wrong with men??????
I honestly feel like a lot of men lack something fundamental in mental development. I have no idea what it is. I wish studies would be done to find out what's wrong with them, similar to how women were subject to experiments in Europe because it was concluded that female humans were prone to "hysteria". I really have to ask, how do men not suffer worse bouts of hysteria and just pure madness (and this is assuming it's madness, not just evil)? Where is the female Ed Gein?
A normal person doesn't do this, but as it turns out, men disproportionately account for the global population of "abnormal people".
Unfortunately that’s not uncommon, I’ve seen it in other places. I heard that one reasoning for such evil is that men don’t see women as people, they treat them like theirs to conquer and do as they please with, all the while doing mental gymnastics like, “well she’d probably reject me anyways this is what she gets for sending out nudes like the whore she is.” Men are motivated by revenge, spite, and dominance. After reading the book, “Why Does He Do That?” On abusive relationships, it’s clear men don’t see women as people. Would you tenderly care for a weed the same way you would care for a child? No you uproot that shit and throw it away, even if the weed did nothing wrong but exist. You see them reducing women to a body part with language such as “bitch” or “cunt” or “roastie” it was in the same book “The Psychology of Evil” that mentions the horrific experiments done on POW in a certain Japanese unit in WWII, where they referred to the prisoners as “murata” or “log”. “Hey how many logs did you throw away last night?” “Let’s move all the logs to this room.” So yeah, men will never see women as people. They can just never wrap their minds around this. Talk to any man and he will reduce you to “can I fuck this?” The double standard is more obvious online, where when he assumes you’re a man he suddenly treats you with respect and can have a normal conversation, and as soon as he discovers you’re a woman, all hell breaks loose.
Lots of emotional stunting in society at large these days and it just makes everyone worse. There's a behavioral sink in play, and for all of the talk about progress, men are still behaving this way when they think nobody is looking. It's revolting.
I feel like there is a culture trend actively against taking responsibility for themselves and their actions, including with regard to women. While men were in the past expected to have all this maturity by their early 20's in order to have a family, now it's all about extending adolescence, which means using women and not being serious about it, making no serious life choices, not valuing composure and stability, selfishness, etc. Not like there want misogyny in the past with those men but it's taken a different, almost more childish form like this kind of stuff.
Men have no empathy, they can only feel sorry for themselves. And if you dare turning them on (we all know it doesn't take much) they'll want to punish and humiliate you, they take the fact that they desire us as a consequence of what we DO, even thought just walking down the street is enough to warrant harassment.
I genuinely believe men are disgusted by their own sexual desire and hate women because of how much they want us.
Btw most men have sexual impulse 24/7, they could be right at the verge of dying if a nurse with a great ass walk past them they WILL think about shagging her, that's how they're programed, they SHOULDN'T be in position of power.
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I decided to check out a male-dominated board that I used to frequently browse years ago, saw this screenshot posted there (with a bunch of replies agreeing) and hoo boy now I remember why I got fed up with the site.
>>368801>man acting as if talking about Star Wars and capeshit is "stimulating conversation"
having some low brow interests is completely normal, but trying to pass them off as intellectual stuff women can never understand ? Only men do this. A lot of people in both genders have that sort of interests (I'd argue it's more common in men, since so many are addicted to video games), but women don't try to pretend binge-watching Netflix shows is "stimulating". They're honest about it being unproductive consuming.
Also imagine acknowledging you care about nothing but Star Wars and vaginas, yet calling others "awful plastic disposable shitty" people. The cognitive dissonance.
>>368788>While men were in the past expected to have all this maturity by their early 20's in order to have a family, now it's all about extending adolescence, which means using women and not being serious about it, making no serious life choices, not valuing composure and stability, selfishness, etc
100%. 30 year old men now act like highschoolers. I went on a date once with a 35-year old man who had very similar opinions to an 8 or 12 year old despite being intelligent otherwise, and having a good job. There is no social pressure to mature, act like an adult, be responsible. So they don't.
Women have to mature if we want to live; not get killed or kidnapped or any host of things happen to us. There are zero consequences for men being children all the way until their 40s
Agreed, a taser is a better option compared to a knife.
Speaking of which, one day I shared on facebook something about self defense with tasers (for women dealing with a possible rapist), and a male friend chimed in to say how "morally wrong" it is to use a taser, because it hurts the attacker and might even kill him if he has a heart condition. I told him to stfu and that a woman who's about to get raped most likely doesn't give a shit about the "poor rapist", and that if you don't want to be hurt you shouldn't go around hurting others… but it's baffling how men sympathize all the time with rapists and criminals. In a way it's as if they have some dark intentions too, so they're concerned that the punishment won't be too hard on them.
>>368821>In a way it's as if they have some dark intentions too, so they're concerned that the punishment won't be too hard on them.
That's exactly it, who the fuck hears about deterrents to rapists and immediately imagines himself as the rapist and worries about consequences to his
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This is unironically true, in my opinion. Males always have a sexual impetus when befriending women whether they admit it or not - it's usually just a means to get their foot through the door. I'd say female friendships are more authentic in this regard. I have friends (female) and orbitors, and I find this system works decently for me.
A few months ago an elderly woman very close to my place of work was brutally raped and murdered during a home invasion robbery. My male coworkers' first reaction when hearing about this?>Ugh why would you rape an old woman? That's just gross
As much as they like to cry #notallmen, most men immediately identify with the rapist in these scenarios.
hey fellow irish anon. I'm really freaked out by it too. I've had an inkling stuff like this has been going on for a while now, ever since the identity of the girl in the rape trial in the north was leaked all over whatsapp. I know men are shitty everywhere but there is a specific Irish flavor of misogyny that is really hard to discuss because scrotes get so fucking offended when you even suggest that they could ever possibly be up to something. r/ireland and boards.ie are bursting with this shit. The ghost of catholicism is still fucking us.>>368855
The #metoo movement really brought that up to light, unless it's about a male feminist who is a rapist then they shit on him. Otherwise it's "he said, she said, but better believe the man and let him go" >>368818
Did you really just criticise somebody that will never read your post about their bait post on a male board about guys being incapable of friendships, in this thread of all places? Lol
>>368801>tfw only befriend males for similar reasons
Should I feel bad? I have some leftover male acquaintances from high school (and one close friend who really 100% isn't into me), but otherwise I only want to converse with males if I find them attractive. That anon worded it harshly…but that's how I feel about men.
Is that wrong or deserved because they're already like this?
sage for sperging. but i really hate how people have come to see birth as some sort of humiliating embarrassing medical procedure. i've been thinking about that reddit post all day. i would much rather be with a man who is invested in every aspect of the pregnancy/birth/childrearing instead of pushing it all off on me as the Woman's Responsibility. while he swoops in on the weekend to BBQ and take the kid(s) go-carting.
i'm really interested in homebirths and have done a lot of research on it and personally i think giving birth at home with a doula and your partner sounds 100% comfy than a "medical procedure" done by strangers. youre far less likely to tear or shit yourself if youre allowed to move around and give birth in the position your body is telling you to. if that makes any sense. it's not humiliating and i always get this vibe that treating birth that way is kind of anti woman. just letting my granola shit leak out
i've seen so many men online act totally indifferent and disinterested in the process of it all and i'd prefer if fathers would take a fucking interest in they're child's life and what their wife is going thru.
make this the new copypasta kek
riverdale>star wars, all in agreement say aye ot but i canny believe how shite riverdale is, my god
Maybe not for you, but an average woman definitely doesn't want her friends family and husband to stand around and gawk at her genitals as she is pushing out a baby and shitting herself, let's be honest now, a lot people would be very humiliated at this, not to mention how gross it would look to people who aren't use to looking at it, how unflattering it can make one look, sweaty, screaming, as shit is coming from your ass and a baby is ripping your vagina, and considering most men's immaturity a lot of them won't be able to look at their wives the same
It's best in a hospital or at least with a midwife around and someone who knows what they're doing
I somewhat agree with the notion of not making pregnancy taboo, but like the other anon mentioned, it still is a risky and complicated procedure. I couldn't fault another woman if she wanted privacy and dignity. Especially if she didn't have the option of a homebirth surrounded by loved ones and a knowledgeable doula or midwife.
It makes me feel better when women have complete control over the surroundings of their pregnancy. Whether that's openly inviting people to watch, wanting to be in a hospital, be at home, or have nobody around.
I just think it's selfish for outsiders to feel entitled or impose their wishes onto the women.
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I've actually spoken to mgtow and its fucking incredible how hypocritical they are. Found one of em on a bdsm site, he wrote a lengthy article about him being a mgtow which basically meant he wanted a woman who would stay at home, only be happy in making him happy and was basically a dormat. Guys who are mgtow dont actually live independently-they just hate women and want women to miss the fact they passed these oxygen thieves over. Like the whole movement is hilarious.
Are you talking about that mgtow who wanted women to offer him their sisters and daughters and wanted said women to support him and get plastic surgery for him if he wanted, all the while he was old,poor, short and obese?
Mgtows have no self awareness
Oh fuck I just clicked the response video the mgtow who got triggered
by this who cannot even speak properly says this girl has a turkey neck and then says in the same sentence shes lying about guys like him dehumanising her man these guys are thicker than cow shit.
It's rather sad that you rarely can befriend men, without them treating you as a vagina and nothing more.
Maybe it's wrong as it doesn't help solving this issue, but they deserve it at the same time, for doing nothing themselves to change this fact.
This, and they blow so much money on it, which is even worse when men are reliant off of you, not to mention the useless toys and posters they buy just to look at
Obviously there's nothing wrong with gaming, but it turns men's potato brains into cult-like mindsets, it's ruining their lives but considering most males self awareness they'll never see it. No wonder they get so pissed off at career women who can motivate themselves and not be mindlessly tied to a video game all day that most of them don't even like and get angry at while playing kek
So basically >"I have nothing interesting or relatable to say to most normal people so I pass it off like I'd rather be at home with my fat male friends talking about my niche tastes yet I'm so fucking fake and desperate I hold out just in case a woman would like to give me pussy."
What a boring, sorry virgin making excuses for himself lol.
why do you keep focusing on the shitting yourself aspect? it's not really all that common. especially if the mother is allowed to walk to the bathroom and shit in a toilet in peace. which they dont often let you do in a hospital setting. look into it and read stories about homebirth for a bit bit and get back to me.
also i get it, you think the father is going to gawk as his wifes vagina while she's giving birth. again, if you'd look into actual homebirth stories you'd know that fathers play a supportive role. they're not spectators, they're assistants. not to get triggered
I can't with those hippie ladies who prioritize their ~uwu dream birth~ over the literal life of their baby. >>369046
You're aware that midwives only take women with extremely low risk pregnancy? The numbers are skewed and the fact that they sent to the hospital the women who have complications raise the number of death and interventions in hospitals.
yes dumbass, im well aware that mid wives only take low risk pregnancies. ergo, if you have a high risk pregnancy. go to the hospital. no shame in that. but for the majority of women homebirth is no worse than hospital birth, and youre less likely to rip your coochie and shit youself. just saw how you guys were so worried about all that.
~uwu dream birth~ yes, forgive me for believing that women's ability to gestate life and bring it into this world is a wonderful thing.
Learn2read, retard. It says right there in the bit I quoted:>In this intention-to-treat analysis
Let's take 2 seconds to see what that means:>An intention-to-treat analysis of the results of an experiment is based on the INITIAL TREATMENT ASSIGNMENT and not on the treatment eventually received.
>The second study, a prospective, 5‐year (2000‐2004) matched cohort study in British Columbia, compared outcomes for low‐risk women in a midwife‐attended planned home birth group (n = 2889), a physician‐attended hospital birth group (n = 5331), and a midwife‐attended planned hospital birth group (n = 4752).
The study already controlled for pre-determined pregnancy risk. You are showing a cult-like level of adherence to the "Hospital Birth Is Better!!!" narrative and willful ignorance here. Or you're just plain stupid.
fine. the only reason i brought this up is because you guys were freaking out about tearing and shitting yourself. i wanted to bring up homebirth because these things are avoidable, especially when youre not lying on your back.
breech babies are not even homebirthing candidates. you can tell in advance up to a month if the baby is going to be breech. same thing if the baby doesnt drop, you can tell early on and get a nice ride to the hospital for a c section.
how is this cult like? i posted a peer reviewed study, you haven't done anything.
sage again, lets just be done with this and talk about shitty things men do without calling birth disgusting humiliating agony. thats the reason i even popped in on this thread.
>>369065>without calling birth disgusting humiliating agony
but thats exactly what it is? can we please stop pretending its some sort of magical uwu experience when its literally one the most painful things people can experience? i dont blame mothers for not wanting anyone unneccesary, even their husband, ogling them during the process. im honestly thankful that there are hospitals and advanced medicine and painkillers to at least make sure that birth is safer and less painful for women.>>368990>I have 2 neighbours in J that are beating their wives up, this is nothing new
this is so gross. how is it that if a woman is a victim of domestic violence no one cares.
I've been battling with the thought of taking religion seriously, but seeing rhetoric about how women can't achieve spiritual enlightenment, how they're basically animals,and female nature being corrupt and evil, as well as women being stupid, and how feminism is controlling the movie industry with movies to alter male-female dynamics, from actual Christian forums and comment sections in Youtube videos put me off of it almost entirely.
I just realized that the majority of Christian men think like that, and if that were the case I'd rather have nothing to do with them or even be involved in any social circles they might be in, including church.
Female only religion when?
It sucks how so many established religions have anti female bias. I just don't see how one can reconcile their religion with feminist beliefs.
Alot of them will claim they're top tier guys who can multiple languages, works in STEM, a successful entrepreneur and living the life because women are evil but its often to flex online and out-do other mgtows online. Many of them not ironically follow "trad" girls (not traditional girls who focus on family and wellness but tradthots) because that's what they want - just a woman who'll be a slave, be completely ok with no rights and be completely dependent on them. It's not a place of self improvement or talking about hobbies. One guy on reddit mgtow sub went there to ask why they talk about women so much and to talk about their hobbies more. And he was banned.
Only mgtow I knew of talked about how he fell down the rabbit hole for a while before he decided to go to therapy. Turnsled out he wasn't mad at women, but had buried feelings about his mom passing when he was young, his dad's drinking and his dads exes. It's easy to fall down that pit because it sounds nice upfront>all about self improvement>owning yourself>living your life the best for you etc
But it ends up being filled with bitter people who don't address their bitterness. And that hatred has to be outdone or else you'll be accused of being a wk. All of it is so bleak and toxic. I'd pity them if they weren't the types to advocate for genocide of women. There are "mgtows" but they don't hate women and aren't and at the world. But that's not enough for many of them >>369088
Witchcraft was always seen as something more feminine in comparison to alot of male dominant religions like islam, christianity etc. I don't know much about paganism or witchcraft but I think there's a thread for it?
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I have noticed this pattern many times before.
IMO the mother was complete shit in this situation, no defending her-but I have seen this defence play out too many times before when similar stories are published in the media-not believing her kid is fucking awful but its not worse than the men who abused her yet as always men will bend over backwards to make out the mother was solely to blame-like had she done her job properly this would have never happened (because you know, it would magically cancel out men abusing kids) and as someone whos been in a similar situation and was angry at not being believed I still say the abuser is fucking worse than the one who doesn't believe-and I bet had it been a father not a mother who did this it would not even be mentioned.
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anon i'm dying. bless u
as far as we know, we can't trust any men because how are we supposed to know what he'll do next. this is why men should stop bitching about us not wanting to be spoken to or approached in public. i lived in the city for a while, men would tell me weird shit and i always just walked away very quickly, the worst was the day before valentines day last year, some man in a suit saw me, followed me for a few blocks, then approached me from behind to tap me on the shoulder. he went on like some mediocre PUA about how he'd like to see me smile and how sexy i looked in my dress. i was so fucking disgusted i just turned around and kept walking, but then he yelled out, "can't i at least ask you on a date?" and i just said, "i have a boyfriend." and kept walking.
men care about their egos being satisfied more than a woman's safety and comfort. fucking disgusting. at worst, a stranger who is female will be rude to me. when it comes to a man, we don't know what the hell he will do to us. i don't care if he's complimenting me or asking for the time, i am ignoring him and walking away quickly. who cares if i offend some guy, it could be a life or death situation, because men are fucked.
It is absolutely disgusting, I do think deepfakes are a step above that though, since you can pass them off as real and ruin a woman's life with them.
Nothing stops men in their quest for porn, though. They just completely shut off their morality, empathy or logic when they get horny, that's why it's so common for men to feel disgusted and ashamed after masturbating. Yet even that doesn't make them question their actions.
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>>369137>Nowadays it's more and more common for videogames to use a real actor/actress who borrows their face for the ingame character. Then people make porn of it, but it's so wrong to me.
I wish companies would stop doing this, like why do they need to look SUPER REALISTIC. I get they want ~*~immersion~*~ and make the player to feel like they're really there but c'mon it's still a fucking video game. I genuinely feel bad for the models if they ever come across that shit. Like how shit would it be to be excited about your face being in a game only to later be used for creepy porn for neck beards to jerk off to.I'm still autistically salty over Leon and Claire's ugly models.Ada's was apparently made from scratch, so it's no wonder hers is the best looking one
(and the other anon talking about this)
I was born at home and while my father is generally absent and unsupportive in my adult life, he did help out my mother and it all went fine, he considers it one of his proudest moments
I was the second child, the second birth is often easier (and I apparently was) but as long as the mother is 100% healthy I don't think a home birth is a problem. A midwife was on her way but I came out too quick, so it was just the parents.
If the mother has any health issues, diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure or anything I do think a hospital is best. At the moment of pushing a human out of your body I think the people looking at your vagina aspect is the least of your worries
There was a MGTOW i saw on youtube who was also living a "home-free lifestyle" aka living in his car. I don't think being woman-free is a choice for guys living in their cars. He also had a very fixed idea of what women are, obviously based on an ex girlfriend, down to where we like to shop, collectively (it was a natural health food store iirc) and what education we have (a specific course was named that his ex obviously did)
Mgtows are very troubled men
A man can meet millions of good women and dismiss them all
They can meet one bad women and to them all of them are evil
Bitching about those men from reddit that feel like they can demand to be in the birth room at their own whim is one thing, but why are anons arguing that some women actually want to have their partner in the birth room for emotional support whilst they do or don't shit themselves? There's a baby thread for that stuff.
I watched a doc tonight about goddess worship that you might like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRV8EiXS_q4>>369199
Wasn't original flavor wicca started by a dude basically as a reason to fuck a bunch of women?
>>369249>Wasn't original flavor wicca started by a dude basically as a reason to fuck a bunch of women?
You're thinking of Aleister Crowley and Thelema, I think, which yeah, was partially so he could have orgies.
To be fair, there does seem to be a sort of "free love" aspect to Wicca, and Dianic Wicca, at least in the books I've read about it.
>>369075>The idea of women's original sin
What is that? Most Christian denominations attribute the cause of original sin to both Adam and Eve's disobedience. >>369079
See my post here >>368235
. Why are you letting other people's interpretations of Christianity put you off of the religion?>>369087
How does Christianity have an anti-female bias?
I have an older brother, and god, the envy even as a toddler is true for my brother as well. My mom tells me when I was born, and she and my dad let my brother in to see me for the first time, my brother hid behind my dads leg. And like just acted like my mom had done something "wrong" by giving birth to another child. He did the destructive shit as a child too, tearing up furniture, all sorts of shit. Now he's a born again type and has this weird resentment towards my mom and I guess me too, because we're not "good enough". Because I'm mentally ill and so is my mom, and because our mom is a recovering drug addict, I guess. He's always kinda mostly found me to be a weirdo anyway, and was always jealous of my relationship with our mom, even though she treated him well too. I didn't have a lot of friends, so I sorta hung around my mom more. Unlike my brother, who was popular and always gone, off with friends.
My mom is one of those rare examples of a woman having a great relationship with her older brother. My uncle was kinda always around us, hanging out, as a result. I kinda envy how well they got along.
itayrt, and yeah, my brother had a huge, huge jealously issue. it was unfair as fuck because well, i didn't decide to be born, yet he treated me like shit growing up because family members were unsurprisingly fawning over a new baby. he was such an ass about it. i haven't spoken to him in years about anything regarding it, but he had told me for years how much he hated me growing up for "stealing the attention away from him", and it was obvious he still fucking hated me for something i didn't even have a say in. i was so shy and hated the attention growing up. he always seemed to resent my mother and i, even though my mom and i are pretty well adjusted, he pretty much has TRP and MGTOW-esque beliefs.
i'll never forget when he told me that "mom married dad for his money". my mom was unfairly kicked out of her home at 17 because her parents were abusive as fuck, they beat her and wouldn't even fucking let her go to college. she was dealt a shitty hand in life. my dad came from a good family and when they met, they really liked each other, and he let her stay with him. my dad was a college graduate, but hadn't even been working the job he has been for years now at the time. my dad didn't even have money because he still lived with his parents yet my brother really makes shit up to help his confirmation bias.
i will never understand the "protective and sweet older brother" trope. it's not reality for some of us, at all.
yeah this is why i don't plan on having sex with a man, and i'm straight.
in a male's mind:>a woman isn't fuckable to him
she's an ugly piece of shit, deserves no respect>a woman rejects his advances
she's a prude piece of shit, deserves no respect>a woman has sex with him
she's a slutty piece of shit, deserves no respect>a woman has sex with other men, but not him
a tragedy, what a slut, how dare she
you can't fucking win. i'm never getting into another romantic relationship with a man, getting married, or having kids. i'm not letting a man intrude my life with his bullshit.
I'm not here to justify my beliefs to others, I am agnostic because I don't see a reason for practicing on religion over others, especially when they have outdated beliefs.
I tried thinking that creationism is just a simple way to tell the idea of evolution as a kid, but teachers kept correcting me (religion was an optional subject, when I tried to opt out they scolded me from being different from the others), the idea that women have to suffer during birth and bleed every month because of Eve is ridiculously insulting, then there's the whole attitude of accepting suffering like that mother Theresa story with her "hospitals".
But to keep this on topic, the worst are the views on sex. Teaching abstinence only is harmful, shaming girls and valuing them by purity is disgusting. Not to mention the views on abortion, prayer won't save mothers with health complications and children that will be born dead.
People's interpretations of Christianity are a pretty good representation of what most Christians uphold, and reflects on what Christians/religious people are like, if I view them acting or speaking a certain way, I'll assume that's what it's really like.
Why would I want to be surrounded by people like this?
Moreover, whenever I look into the typical Christian view on women, it's very disheartening, reading what Paul wrote in his letters, or how people will cite those specific verses from Ecclesiastes as proof that women can rarely achieve righteousness have especially changed the way I view Christianity.
The fact that there were only a few female prophets mentioned in the Bible will then be used to explain why women can only rarely be permitted leadership in spirituality; or explain their lack of virtue or righteousness.
It's so obvious as well, I didn't even need to have much contact with guys to know this, just talk to any girl who has "guy friends" talk about them, or just listen to a guy talk abut any girl with one of his friends.
Why do they even act surprised when girls reject their advances, let alone act hurt? They have this victim mentality going on and it just makes it all the more infuriating.
I had a similar experience anon.
I was raised Catholic and went to a Catholic middle school myself. They treat women with evil, and we're viewed as subservient vessels and supports to men. It was always taught that men have authority over us.>>369423
I can't speak about other Christian denominations, but I can speak on Catholicism.
While the church may be changing a lot of its principles and tones these days, the reason behind doing so is to try to save the shrinking congregation (aka the money).
The latest example being the exposure of sexual slavery, forced abortion, and abuse of nuns within the church. Sure, the pope may be admitting to clerical abuse as well as the abuse of children, but he's doing so to try to build back up a rapport because the church is hemorrhaging members due to this shit:>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47134033>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/world/europe/pope-francis-sexual-abuse-nuns.html
tl;dr Nuns were forcibly made to perform sexually to priests-who made a vow of celibacy btw-and were blackmailed into sex slavery. If they became impregnated, they were forced to have an abortion (Catholicism is against abortions ever). After the nun would have the abortion, she was forced to leave the congregation while the priest's actions were covered up and at worst he was sent to a different location.
Again because it's taught that men have divine authority over women, they treat us like objects while they're put on pedestals.
Not only is it implied that women aren't capable of being leaders of the church, the church flat out says that women cannot be ordained. Because Christ took the body of man, the priest can only ever be a man.>"The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ's return. The Church recognises herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.">The Church recognises herself to be bound by this choice>The Church recognises herself>herself
The subordination of our gender is even in the words to formulate these twisted rules.
Any church that ordains women is not considered valid in the Catholic hierarchy and is excommunicated, like Roman Catholic Womenpriests.
But being excluded from church functions and sacraments isn't limited to only if you want to be a priest, no.
In the early Roman Empire, husbands were allowed to leave their wives. The wives were not permitted the same right until centuries later and that's not with dissolution.
For years I watched my mother cry in church because she was told she couldn't receive communion because she divorced my scumbag biological father who beat and cheated on her, then remarried. She had it in her head that she was an "adulterer" and considered unworthy, because that is what the church taught. Note: Today the church is apparently becoming more lenient on divorcees and they can receive sacrament now, but this wasn't the story 20 years ago. She still feels unworthy to go up near the altar, among other internalized misogynist beliefs she holds over her head and mine.
There's tons of scripture that proves the church will never view us as equals:>1 Timothy 2:11-15 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.>1 Corinthians 14:33-35 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.>Titus 2: 4-5 Then they can train the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands so that no one will malign the word of God.
Wouldn't surprise me if your brother was mgtow/redpilled. Most of them come from ok homes but just 1 instance counts as the final straw.>a little sister being born>mom escaping a bad situation because how dare a woman make her own choices
They're spoiled brats. Wasn't it Paul Elm from AVFM who said his red pill moment came from having to be fed vegetables he didn't like by his mom as a baby?>>369493
Because men hate ugly women, period. They see no value in a woman if she has any flaws on her face that he may have too. If she does have very nice skin, it always requires maintenance and they hate that it does because natural beauty should absolutely be no maintenance yet with zero flaws. There's no winning with them. Nice that you're partner dgaf though>>369523
Guya are toxic with each other that they sabotage relationships to earn kudo points with each other. It's bro talk that means nothing to them but it's always hurtful to women they're dating. There's a reason why if a guy stands up for his gf or wife, he's ridiculed for being pussy whipped/a wk/a weak beta>>369564>men came BEFORE women so women must always be slaves and second class humans
Gross and tiring that this misogyny is still here today and very popular, especially since so many women convince themselves that it's right to always stay home, and never live their own lives. It's tragic
>>369587>Do you still believe in the existence of God?
Ot but nope, not at all. Which is ironic considering what a staunch believer I was as a child. My story isn't unique though. So many people I knew who used to believe the most are now agnostic or atheist in their adult lives. One guy I knew in high school used to pray every day before eating his lunch (he didn't have to, it was a public school) and talked about becoming a preacher. He is now no longer religious and frequently criticizes organized religion. Something happened to him, however it's not my business to ask him what.
Maybe going to a Catholic middle school planted the seed of my cynicism. It was because of the treatment I received there and the behaviors I witnessed. I realized many people who indulge religion have the mantra "Do as I say and not as I do." And it's not that I think hypocrisy is necessarily evil or that I don't do it, it's the lack of accountability and rationalizing it away that got me. Religion is convenient when people need community and a system of hierarchy. The rest of the time their beliefs are put on the backburner, and 'God' becomes weaponized to use against the others and the sinners.
Then I realized that other religions do similar things. Even if it's not about religion people find virtues and morals to put up on pedestals while looking down on anyone who doesn't follow. Just made me realize that if I question other gods, then mine is no more valid–and at that point I was happy to part with it because again, it's not like being a woman in the Catholic church did me any favors. It just caused a lot of disappointment and heartbreak.
Holy— I hated the fact that people are humanizing a psychopath that has no empathy thus having no ability to feel
Hollywood fucking sucks and I won't feel surprised if there is an effort to normalize socio/psychopaths
This is my biggest problem, just because they're fictional, doesn't make it any less wrong. Why? They normalize those things like how women depicted in fiction and people internalize it.
I also fucking hate the argument that they're "victimless". Yeah, the hentai you're watching is not real but does that not normalize and perpetuate your beliefs? (In this case, it's mostly wrong)
OMG! I've noticed that too! I saw it and thought "why do the men don't act excited when it's a girl?" meanwhile the woman acts excited when it's a boy
Don't forget the people who defend the problematic
parts of Japan (AKA anime) and their response to your criticism (usually about lolicon) is "it's their culture!"
WEaring modestly does not stop rape; it just makes you less likely to be targeted on and they focus on the ones who are skimpy/prettier unless you're the only girl out there
If you look, act, dress (even modestly) and sound like a girl, men will always stare and rape you
I have these set of reasons as to why women are better as rulers but it's too long but I'm just gonna say:
I wish we had matriarchy
I saw one on the whisper app where men share nudes of women and I'm pretty sure it's nonconsensual
also saw a forum where men make cum tributes on women AND children. When I saw a child's picture modeling innocently while wearing a bikini, I noped out of there pretty fast
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bonus: reddit's MRAs reacting. surprisinly there wasnt as many but this subs moderators are fast af
God, this is so fucked up
MRAs are fucking retarded
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>>369919>mind your own business
Love the implication that he thinks murdering children is men's business and totally fine.
May not be his intention, but funny.
Those makeup tutorials that seem like a whole new face skeeve you out because they're all made from trends taken from drag queen makeup that's MEANT to create a whole new face. And it's on the way out. Just look at popular "no makeup makeup" brands like glossier and milk. That whole ~cool girl effortless beauty~ look. Which is fucked in its own right.
I never understood why it was cool for guys to walk around with horrible skin, greasy hair, and looking unkempt as shit, while any girl that you could tell was at least TRYING to take care of herself but didn't have skin as clear as a baby's ass was somehow gross. Why are men allowed to walk around smelly as shit, but god forbid a woman have acne or else she's some kind of mongoloid bitch. I hate the idea that women have to conceal their eye bags or redness or minimal acne to be considered presentable while men can just not give a fuck about anything and still be considered Respectable Male Adults. Like why do we have to spend all this money on makeup to be taken seriously? They should have to use salmon concealer and bb cream and whatever else to mask their "flaws" too. It's so fucked that a woman's natural face needs to be covered or "enhanced" by makeup (which ultimately makes our skin worse) while men can look whichever way and it doesn't matter. I hate it so much,
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r/MGTOW is hilarious. Their inability to grasp satire or humor bc of their blinding autism coupled with the fact that they delude themselves into thinking not being involved with women is voluntary is the most cringeworthy thing ever
“I forgot lesbians have a complex so i apologize”
I fucking scream laughed
I support male makeup, everyone looks better wearing makeup and that includes men.
Standards for male grooming seem to ebb and flow, there were certainly periods where men were expected to groom themselves to extents comparable to women. And of course this has varied across cultures. I think this is something that is starting to shift back but overall the minimum level of grooming is still higher for women. Generalizing but it seems to me like younger men are more likely to groom themselves more than the age cohort just above them. Unfortunately a lot of millennial men came of age in a really low point in male fashion. I'd even put 14 y/o hypebeasts as sartorially above many of my male same aged peers, at least the little hypebeasts are keeping their clothes clean and are using face lotion (though the fashions look stupid).
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It's 50% deluded incels, 50% divorced 47 year old men, 100% fake stories
It's not about supporting or not supporting male makeup. It's that it's EXPECTED and almost obligatory for women to wear makeup to be considered presentable while men can look and smell like shit without any consequences.
Yeah, men can be expected to shave and wash for work. But so are women. And women are also supposed to take a million other steps to look presentable and be taken seriously.
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>there are men out there who honestly think this
I feel second hand embarrassment for them
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>>369966>She was cheating on me with chad
Ok this HAS to be a troll post
Oh, but I thought all women were ambitious feminist career women these days? And we're ruining the nuclear family by having jobs instead of kids?
We really can't win. We have kids, and we're parasites. We don't, and we're failures. Men just want us completely dependent on a husband's benevolence, completely powerless to leave and support ourselves regardless of how badly he treats us, so that they never have to be inconvenienced in their lives.
Men:>sees photo of woman before and after makeup
REEEE WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?>sees a woman without makeupignores her, treats her with disrespect>woman puts on makeup
How dare she trick me!
So which is it, men?! Do you want women to be attractive, but when they’re ugly this is unacceptable?
I think it’s a mix of two things>worshipping their own dicks>anything with a man (bro) is obviously better than hanging out with a woman
So it ends up they’d rather look homoerotic than have anything to deal with a woman
No, because seeing how we're socialized and conditioned to think and act, the fact we were oppressed and knowing the feeling of being treated unfairly based on sex under patriarchy would make women act wiser, kinder and not do the same mistakes as men. What you're saying may apply to an alternate universe where women are stronger than men.
When something goes wrong in the matriarchy, expect the bad people (mostly men) to have infiltrated it.
Reminder to read the OP and what's bannable. >>370046
Seriously, the standards for men are so low, I refuse to sit next to someone who reeks that much.
I have an ex friend who was overweight, dressed horribly and smelled like wet cabbage all the time. He somehow had the right to nitpick my appearance constantly and act offended when something about me wasn't attractive to him. When he did find me attractive, however, he'd outright say I'd obviously done my hair/makeup this way for him (as fucking if).
I don't understand how even the most disgusting, unwashed men can act so entitled to our attractiveness.
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"Girls are at they prime at 12"
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Not surprised that incels welcome pedophiles and protect them as their own. Surprised that site is still up. Is it being monitored by watch groups? >>370411
Not surprised that men think like this. They want rape and sexual assault to be legal and encouraged >>370416
Like with >>370410
how long until reddit shuts down braincels?
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I am laughing my ass off at the reactions to the small dick emoji, incels don't understand satiric clickbait articles and it shows their fragility.
Also the classic >men: "women never sacrifice! They're coddled and spoiled!">women join the military>men: "uh sorry but women don't belong in the military they're weak they shouldn't serve they need to stay at home"
It's like men want to shelter women then blame women and whine and complain about women being sheltered.
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>>370480>that comment section
In all my years of browsing websites like these, I've never seen so much autism in one place.
Oh, definitely. I'd argue women are as visual as men but are talked into being sexual objects rather than subjects and crave being desirable over desiring our (male) partners. On a level separate than that, women also generally value partners as individuals and humans so we weigh other aspects along with attractiveness while men generally only weigh attractiveness as important.
The whole thing leads to a society where men don't wipe their asses and leave their wives if they need a mastectomy and women just "have to" accept it.
Personally I have specific but realistic visual interest in men and won't deviate because I think that would be unfair in a relationship to not be attracted to my partner. The problem I have with the standards men have for women now is that it's so unattainable for MOST women without getting surgery/wearing a bunch of makeup…which they also ridicule. Also dating women they don't find attractive and secretly hating them for that. Even women who compromise on looks still look past it and love their partners, but men are emotional retards.
Stop posting this shit everywhere. This woman is an "alt right troll xDDD" racist streamer who hates other women and collects betabux from basically being the antagonistic Shrek to Shoe0nHead's Donkey.
She's a farmer, too, so I wouldn't be surprised if she's shilling on /ot/ ever since the Anisa thread got locked.
>>370486>anyone else think women are visual too but we try to suppress those preferences to get a good guy?
I mean a good guy can be good looking, average, or ugly, it isn't mutually exclusive. I would argue that getting a "good guy" is a large priority when looking for men to have a relationship with though. It isn't a wise choice to ignore red flags and choose someone you're incompatible with simply because he's hot.
Most men are ugly, and it's because they don't care about making themselves look in ways that are more attractive. They don't put in a quarter of the maintenance that women generally do to look good. Think of all the stuff that goes into that. Women spend time thinking of how to dress to flatter their body type, choosing haircuts that flatter their face shape, fashion, skin care regimes, make up, hair styling routines, plastic surgery etc. With some men you'd be lucky if they even remember to put on deodorant.
By the way, in my country, it was reported today that women do overall better than men at military tests. The men were only better when it came to pure muscle.
Whatever you think of the military, it was pretty funny because men like to go on about how superior they are when it comes to things like this. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.metro.se%2Fartikel%2Ff%25C3%25B6rsvarsmakten-kvinnor-b%25C3%25A4ttre-%25C3%25A4n-m%25C3%25A4n-i-v%25C3%25A4rnpliktstester
Enough of this "well you would PROBABLY be doing ___", unless you have proof of us or anyone saying that then drop it
Child birth can be very disturbing to an untrained eye, many males are prone to acting out and reacting negatively during child birth, IMO it's best if men stay out of the delivery room but if she truly wants him there then so be ithttps://www.babygaga.com/15-problems-men-face-after-witnessing-birth/
That being said many men can be mature about it if you're lucky enough to have a man that is, but many men lost their minds and disrespect their partner and the baby after watching it
Damn, ot but that article really reactivated my tokophobia. How could I forget how horrifying pregnancy/birth can be to go through? Jeepers.
Respect to women that go through with it and give birth. If I was a man I think I'd love my partner even more after the ordeal, but they're too fucking dumb and emotionally useless to do that.
Chinese men overwhelmingly outnumber women since they killed baby girls for so long. So they resort to human trafficking so they can have a house slave "wife". Japan is almost dead, their birth rates are so low due to an outdated work lifestyle demanded by old outdated men to the younger gen. I don't have many friends in Korea to tell me what's it like. Same goes for Taiwan, Vietnam, Philippines etc. There's shitty men everywhere..
Also, why do they have to ruin so much. Can't even watch something unrelated like an aircrash investigation during the 50s vid on YouTube without some guy whining that they can't sexually assault women anymore like they did in the glorious 50s. Took a peak at his subscriptions and it's exactly what you'd expect. Lauren Southern, other "trad" girls (the ones that shit on women as whole but they're different) , fox News and proclaimed conservative channels. It's tiring seeing the same type of guys like this. Saying and wishing for the same thing
Currently in Korea:
There's pressure to get married and have kids by the time you're 23-25, so traditional way of thinking. However, a lot of women are now at the point where they're starting to say "fuck that" and not get married before they're 30 because they hate the pressure.
Both of my Korean girl friends are 27 and only have boyfriends and don't want to get married ASAP, but the Korean men I know still follow the "right out of high school" mentality.
>>370774>She has a high school boyfriend>Went on a date with a guy
These are two things he listed to prove she was "ruined" considering he thinks completely normal behavior like so was enough to list as reasons as to why some stranger is ruined, you have to really think about what he would consider to be "stringing guys along"
And let's be honest, after seeing what their definition of emotional and physical abuse is, their definition of rape, their definition of a whore, etc, she most likely just wasn't a pure nun who rejected every guy in her path and that was enough to claim she was a whore who stringed guys along, given if women did do that incels would be crying too. Anon you should know by now not to trust what incels say when they claim stuff like so
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Where to even start with this one: no matter how shitty a man and how much of a success a woman is-the man does no wrong and the woman is told she should be thankful to be abused because it made her "the woman she is today" so sick of this narrative.
Is he retarded? They think being turned down a date or refusing to sleep with them is abuse but manipulation, physical harm and all other toxic behaviors is a-ok so long as you're not chained in the basement or other extremes. Someone replied telling their own story of an abusive ex saying if they had left them, that ex would have kill them. And his response >jeez bro shut the hell up
There's other people calling him out though.
And they wonder how women were so oppressed for most of humanity's existence. It's almost like half of all humans are overpowered violent monsters who lack empathy.
Also one of the many reasons I'll only date <120 lbs short men lmao. At least I know from experience I can beat the shit out of them.
>>371604>thinking you can trust a strong man to protect you and not use it against you
I'll only be as worse off as I'd be without him.
As for him, I assume weak men just have to take the same precautions women do (not going out at night, not talking to strange men, etc.).
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Pft. Most men in the dating scene are fucking losers in my age group, 25-30.>either no cars or shit cars>little education, and if they do heady debt>some have criminal records>often have shit jobs that definitely don't have 401ks or health insurance>rent their places>definitely no fucking six packs anywhere, mostly dad bods or twinks>expect their dates to always pay for themselves or everything>often have some kind of vice like gaming addiction or alcoholism
It's women who are constantly working our asses off to "prove" to these lazy bastards we're worthy humans, and then they still have the nerve to whine because we're not always sweet after working a full day and coming home to a messy house with the expectation that we cook dinner too. Fuck these entitled dependas, and I'm sure any man referencing women as "bitches" has few if none of the characteristics listed, it's just shit they can point to and make themselves feel better like "See? Even if I had all that these bitches would still be ungrateful uwuw!" Fuck themmm.
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BUT WAIT! It gets worse, heres even more mental gynmastics (and guess how surprised I was to see this guy is a MRA)
Did she write a Harry Potter spinoff?
It would explain why this fat bald Voldemort character has such a vendetta.
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Thank you anon you made my day, can I steal that and tweet it to them lol.
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The first responses are male bitching as expected.
>how ironic that women assume there's nothing in front of the men
Way to miss the point.
Men can stand women doing anything right or being above them
Anytime someone dare acknowledge women's accomplishments, everyone makes it about men
Until you're acknowledging men being the vast majority of child molesters, murderers, violent criminals, robberies, rapists, abusers, animal abusers, etc then "not all men!! Women do it to reee!!"
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preach. i'm not committing to any man, no way in hell am i letting some dude live with me and invade my life, aspirations, and living space so he gets a mommy and a free maid. men ain't shit.
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>>371772>mfw they have the audacity to say shit like that being from a shitty Japanese society that is notorious for shitting on women
How subhuman can they get
Car, decent paying job, education, no criminal record, I pay my bills, I work out and eat healthy and take care of myself
But hey, God forbid I ask a man to be useful or else I'm an evil Western roastie with high expectations
I've always been pro-gun, it's probably the only topic I lean genuinely right wing on, so yes. Just look into the laws of your state/country. And take classes, learn to shoot, learn proper safety. Concealed carry is allowed where I live. I don't carry, but I don't blame a woman who does.
At the very least, mace or a taser is a good idea.
Chloe would be a huuuuge bad example on how to handle a gun>points gun at Max (doesn't matter if it wasn't loaded)>bullet ricochets and hits her>"beer and guns, nice combo"
But otherwise if you're responsible with it, yeah people (including men and women) should carry guns to protect themselves.
I don't agree with >>371671
, because it was my father who introduced me and taught me firearms and he's responsible with them. I'd hate to imagine if he was ever attacked without one especially since he's getting old so even good honest men need to defend themselves against thugs.
Obviously not, her contention is that she isn't meeting the men that have completed education. There are definitely geographic/demographic issues at play where these types of people aren't able to meet each other.
For my part I'm not sure if its reasonable to expect a guy to have a job anymore since so many of them don't.
When I say that less men are interested in higher education it's a documented fact, it's not saying "no man is educated". I should have written more but the general implication is that the expectations of men and women are different and even though you can find a good guy, it's disappointing that you have to look harder because men don't feel as pressured to please people around them.
I am not that same anon that complained, I have a boyfriend but the guys I met at my university were generally disappointing, the main differences between the male and female students were personal hygiene and maturity and that difference definitely impacted my opinion of men.
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Tfw pink pilling my best friend
Feels good man. She's in a relationship but I can see the gears turning in her head.
Women need to invest more time and energy into the women in their lives and spend less in their romantic relationships.
fuck yeah girl!!!!
subtly pinkpilling women is probably the greatest thing to do to other women, especially to those in relationships or who are young
lord knows if i had been pinkpilled earlier i wouldn't have spent years hating other women because i saw them as competitors
>>372307>lord knows if i had been pinkpilled earlier i wouldn't have spent years hating other women because i saw them as competitors
Jesus, ain't that the truth. Imagine, if from a young age girls had a community of women and other girls that supported them. How much stronger we would be as a group, how many more opportunities we could take because we had our sisters and other women to support us AND we could support them!
Men deeply fear women getting together in any form or size.
They divide us by using the threat that OTHER men will hurt us if we don't enter into relationships with THEM.
They try to divide us racially, pitting women from different cultures against each other.
They try to divide us financially, by discouraging us from working and undervaluing the work that billions of women do every day.
It's so blatant and in your face that it becomes hypernormalized and just "accepted". As if the way society is being run is the ONLY way it could ever run. As if women would hate other women until the end of time, when it's clearly MEN hate other men, in any fucking society you look at, in ANY era.
You are right that the best way forward to reaching other women is through subtly and gentleness. Some of the more extreme ideas are too much for someone who is so entrenched into "normal society", and would just end up pushing them away. Being supportive as much as you can (while taking care of yourself) AND telling truths is the best way forward.
Men are the biggest projectors on Earth
When men watch porn, they start comparing women's bodies to porn stars, expecting sex to be like that of porn, getting disappointed when it isn't, getting disappointed when normal women don't have porn star bodies, turning sex into a game of nitpicking women's bodies, becoming porn sick to the point where they can't enjoy sex
They know how they react to porn and they're terrified women will do the same. They're scared of women treating them how they treat women. Nothing men hate more than a taste of their own medicine.
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I don't like the term pinkpill because it is associated with the pathetic femcel sub on reddit where they reeee over not being pretty enough for relationships.
How about RADPILL ??? kek
>>372322>>372345>like what's the fucking difference
There are two fundamental differences:>men can impregnate multiple women at the same time, whereas a woman must carry the babies herself. therefore, male sexuality is inherently polygamous- the male reproductive instinct is to impregnate every pretty girl he sees- whereas female sexuality is inherently hypergamous- reproduction is a massive investment for women, so they want the best quality offspring possible to maximize the return on investment>the average woman has greater access to the most attractive men than the average man has to the most attractive women. any 6/10 girl could have sex with a 9/10 guy if she wanted, on a whim. her male counterpart cannot do the same. therefore, it is much more threatening for a man's girlfriend to lust after more attractive men than it is for a woman's boyfriend to do the same for very attractive women. even if he was willing to cheat on her, he probably couldn't because those women would probably not want to have sex with him
moreover, there is the issue of penis size, to which there is no female equivalent. a man with a larger penis is automatically much better at sex and therefore immediately more desireable and superior. meanwhile, a 6/10 woman is not necessarily any better or worse at sex than a 9/10 woman- the latter just looks better. all a woman has to feel threatened about women that are prettier than her is physical aesthetics, that's all they have over her. for men, it's much worse- the more attractive men are not simply 'prettier', they provide an exponentially superior experience overall, they have much, much higher existential worth and reproductive allure. an average-looking girl can win a man's heart by being sweet and loving, but there is literally nothing that a man with a small penis can do to ever be attractive to any woman at all.
You're right, you're worthless to us and we can fuck all the Chad's we want when we want,you can leave now
Surprised you haven't sperged about the suicide rate yet either, you should join them since you're being oppressed by us evil hypergamous women
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I hate males and I hate porn.
subtleness and gentleness will get you so far with other women. also another thing that i think doesn't get brought up enough when it comes to talking to other women about these issues is treating them in a way that is not condescending.
what i mean by that is that is it is best to not talk down to women or treat them like bad people if they don't know what we do. because that is exactly how men talk down to us as women - they treat us as dimunutive because they think they know better. it shows in any interaction with men, since they have to dominate the conversation and always assume that your intelligence is not up to par.
when i was a baby manhater, i tried very aggressively to pinkpill my sister and it did not go very well. but i left her on her own for a while and just tried to be more casual - like joking and showing her radfem memes. it made a world of difference and honestly she became more radical than i am lmao
gynes, please be nice to your normie libfem girlfriends. it can be frustrating dealing with handmaiden bullshit, but if we want to unite together, we have to be kind to our sisters.
It’s called being sick, my guy
Porn really is a cancer, sucks how difficult it is to go against a multi trillion dollar industry like that.
The issue is also in the way men treat each other, a lot of scrotes want to live up to the fake expectation of being "macho" and are told by pop culture and others that porn is good, on trashier sites the more wicked your fetish the more "taste" you have.>>372548
That sounds unrealistic, teens always had their sexual adventures. But the part about nitpicking nipple sizes is definitely spot on, the image of women is getting more and more twisted.
However if the guy has a lot of shit qualities and traits, a small dick makes his ass even more worthless. Probably why the small penises who come on here complain, because they know they're terrible people and can't be considered good human dildos to boot. Even then the dick ain't hardly worth it if the man's a shit.
I realize this is gross from men…but do other women not also do this? I picture most people naked immediately and imagine fucking men I find attractive in the ass pretty quick.
Am I just pornsick? I've been noporn for a year but I'm still like this…
I was checking France 24 news and saw this video about a group of male journalists who were caught cyber bullying women, amongst other things. https://www.france24.com/en/video/20190212-french-journalists-suspended-cyberbullying-boys-club-exposed
I feel like there’s more of this out there but people don’t say anything for whatever reason.
It might be because I'm not attracted to most people but I've honestly never done this. Even just picturing kissing someone I like makes me feel guilty if I'm not dating them, like I'm disrespecting them.
I also used to watch porn and read hentai frequently (nowadays I read fiction/use my imagination) so I'm not sure it's related.
Damn, now I kind of feel bad. I've always done it and have never really been able to fully block it (the picturing people nude part at least, it's automatic).
Although I do think porn does exacerbate it and believe everyone (men especially) has the responsibility to quite it.
Also reminder to everyone not to respond to penis sperg (who, of course, returned with these threads) or any men lest you be banned for three days.
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so i dont only have to worry about the fact that most men do this, even some women do this too? i dont want to hurt your feelings anon but it's really sick that you do that. i would feel violated if someone told me they did that. it's just… not okay in my book
I never noticed if a guy is uncircumcised or not unless it's one of those really deep circumcisions, even then idrc as long as he keeps his junk clean, I've met more men who insist on dicks being cut than women
The sad part is despite how little women ask of men it's too much for the poor oppressed men. Just have good hygiene, a decent haircut and not be fat, is way too much to ask of them
i've imagined kissing boys since before i ever saw porn, i don't think that is a result of being pornsick or a degenerate, unless you think i was a lost cause at 5 years old for wanting to kiss tuxedo mask or one of the backstreet boys. its normal. women shouldn't feel bad for indulging in mental fantasies.
the problem is when men imagine that shit about women, they enact on their fantasies because they have no inhibitions.
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Oh I hope this is a troll post but does anyone have any stories like this here?
I've always done this, too. I can't even fantasize about characters. If I ever fantasize, the object of desire is completely made up.
I can't even fantasize (sexually) about my bf of 3 years… makes me feel very uncomfortable. I fantasize about things he's done or could do but never getting off to them. More like a pang in my stomach of excitement, like going on a roller coaster.
Male "feminists" are a big thing nowadays but I find that men who call themselves that will be just as misogynistic as the majority, if not more. They'll tweet about how great women are, sure, but they'll also treat them like idiotic children who need strong male feminists to tell them what they want, and any woman who disagrees with them will have her appearance torn to shreds.
If they're a creator they'll also hide behind their "feminism" to justify constantly sexualising women in their work.
Male "feminists" are all about that ~inclusive feminism.
Think hbomberguy being all about trans rights, but the second a female confides to him that she has been sexually assaulted he tells her he doesn't believe her and that they can't stay friends.
Very feminist, very supportive of women uwu
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You might not be happy with what they mean by it.
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This girl is dating what sounds like a closeted necrophiliac and 99% of the comments are telling her his kink is normal and nothing to worry about.
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Jesus Christ I just want men to die. He should never be able to have a relationship or intimacy with another human again.
I wish that woman had someone to reach out and help her, what a fucked situation. It's even worse that she's so mindfucked that she has to seriously ask if there is something wrong about what's happening.
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My eyes roll so far back into my skull every time I hear about some woman enabling her boyfriend's gross fetishes. Reminds me of this post of this chick who gave herself painful bloating just so her loser bf can have a lousy orgasm. Some women would honestly light themselves on fire if it meant their boyfriend would get off to it. It makes me sick. I hate men.
i had an ex who wanted me to pretend i was asleep during sex sometimes (i got tf out of there soon after he said this obviously). silent, eyes shut, laying still. i could never feel comfortable sleeping around him after that, he said a couple of other fucked up things like that in a very short period of time it all just clicked that he wasn't right and i had to leave. i'm really glad i didn't hang around long enough to see and hear more weird shit from him to get a whole new worry that his perversions went even deeper than getting off on doing stuff to a sleeping woman.
i don't have any interest in dating a man again anytime soon but if i do again i'm not even going to consider it before i hear and believe that he isn't porn obsessed, and my bar for 'obsessed' is so low given how much of it is gross enough imo to give you weird interests before you even get into what's actually considered 'weird'/kinky porn now
have to disagree with you on “some women genuinely enjoy those things” because women aren’t born wanting huge surgically enchanted racks or to have all of their orifices violently desecrated by some scrote
while some women “enjoy” those things, it’s always a cover for them trying to cope with being born a woman and trying to live up to the expectations placed upon us. it’s a hollow notion, and it’s all due to socialization and the increasing standards of sexual performance thrust on women due to porn and shit
What's weirdest about men regarding this is that they meme themselves into only being able to get off to one fetish. Like necro boy up there and inflation man, they can't even get off to vanilla anymore for some fucking reason. I'm a woman with some odd fetishes, but I've never been in a situation where I can only
get off to that. And I definitely wouldn't put a partner through shit that makes him uncomfortable.
Men really are all legit slightly autistic, huh?
Sounds like some Jeffrey Dahmer shit, that guy literally started out fantasizing about unconscious men and spiralled from there.
This is so disgusting. You shouldn’t have to nearly mutilate yourself to get someone ~excited~. Her BF needs to develop a healthier relationship to sex before she blows a hole in her intestines or something horrible trying to keep him happy.
Not every fetish or kink is safe and needs to be celebrated.
Only 1 comment told her the kink is fine. Everyone else was like>uhh slowing down your heart someone to get off? Nope out of there
I hope she isn't on of those "but I care about him getting off uwu even if it directly conflicts with my health" and listens. Some kinks should remain being 100% shamed like this one and inflation guy. >>373152
Wouldn't surprise me if some study conducted concluded that all men had some type of autism. Being so prone to twisted shit and then being 100% with it or not
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>>373139>find out bf gets off to "animated blueberry porn" (seriously, wtf is that? what is wrong with men? how is that even sexy at all?)>NOT leaving him immediately
the woman who posted that needs to love herself and gtfo
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But that is empirically untrue.
seconding this so fucking hard.
the effects of pornography are entirely negative (sex trafficking, prostitution, rape & sexual assault, self esteem issues for women, botch jobs bc of surgery for women, health problems bc of violent sex for women) and it’s been proven for YEARS
but they stopped researching the negative impacts of pornography because the data basically came back the exact same every time, proving that porn is evil
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Well for starters it's pretty normalized for a man to bash his girlfriends breast size, butt size, weight, skin, etc and no one bats and eye (or if they do they're evil crazy insecure feminazis) but a girl even daring to point out a single flaw in her boyfriend will get bashed repeatedly, marked as ungrateful, emotionally abusive, etc
Media proves this to, hell just go anywhere and make a joke about how your girlfriends tits are too small and people will laugh, go anywhere joke about how your boyfriend's dick is too small, everything gets serious, you'll get called emotionally abusive, the whole "if the roles were reversed" thing, etc.
It's sad the effect stuff like these can have on women's mental health long term but no one cares because issa joke, until it comes to men getting bashed.
Or even better males who complain about how women aren't flirting,but when women do flirt they bash the woman repeatedly if she wasn't a 10/10 model
Another thing normie males do is never shut up about how hot other women while being in a relationship, I've never seen a woman do this but considering how mad men get when women compliment men who aren't them God knows what will happen
The hatred for women. All types of men have it.
Normal men just know how to hide it better than incels. Fuckbois get away with it because of their looks. When you spend enough time with them you see that they're all the same.>obsession with "teens">extreme rape fantasies, including torture>seeing women as non-humans
I've seen it all from completely average men.
NTA but I used to be on a bdsm site and okcupid, and was shocked in recent times how the guys are pretty much the same, and like incels they think any woman who has boundaries like, you know, not wanting to have degrading stuff done to her was somehow a stuck up bitch. Also ditto for what >>373330
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I'd hate to say it but many average men browse 4chan or exhibit behaviors of an average 4channer. It's scary to think about, I use to think an average 4channer was just some autistic basement dweller who mooches off his mom, it actually surprised me when I found out how many males I've met irl browsed 4chan or some other imageboard filled with psychos sprouting the same shit such as the pic related
Pink pill is the way to go
Some submissive guys are shitty in different ways. Very demanding-one was expecting me to be the kind of perfect sex doll/6 inch heels dominatrix and begged me to take him yet when I asked does he shave his body hair he got really insulted for some reason and stopped talking.
Its funny in my experience the better looking the sub is the more polite he is, The opposite from what pop culture and men in general try to tell women.
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I like going to boards like /lgbt/ specifically to remind myself why I think the way I do.
This is what they think of us.
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East Asian countries obviously.
This animation explains why:https://ncase.me/trust/
Both asian men and women are more attached to their partners and try harder to make them happy (obviously on average inb4 anecdotes). We call it submissiveness but they call it cooperativeness.https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Dynamic-influences-of-culture-on-cooperation-in-the-Wong-Hong/014ad8ad19f86f010ffb9bc5faacdd2895d92a97
It's because in the west we operate on lower levels of trust, where our tools are legal and societal as opposed to personal. That's why redpill and pinkpill are a thing here. Selfish douchery is celebrated as alphaness whereas in Asia those behaviors are seen as extremely awful and discriminated against socially – though this may be less true these days with the rise of hip pop culture and other gross shit. >>370722
Men everywhere are shitty but some of the most complained about things in this thread are lessened in other cultures and other things this post are not true or misreported myths. Image related is China's actual gender ratio, which at 105 is lower than the natural human gender ratio.
Japanese birth rate is similar to birth rates to european countries and is not particularly low this is just what rich populations do, they prefer to take vacations and have big houses instead of slaving away for new person. Japan's birth rate just hit a new low of 1.43 per woman while having been higher for most of the decade, but guess who had been at 1.43 for most of the time? White germans. https://www.thelocal.de/20180328/german-birth-rate-surges-to-highest-level-in-over-four-decades
Unless you're also into discussing white german work lifestyles you have to see that it's just a bad stereotype to talk about low birth rates in Japan. The only reason why western countries aren't ranked like Japan is because of immigrants from third world countries. That's it.
Misogyny and patriarchy is of course still inescapable in Asia but it's lessened in key areas.
- 50% of tech startups are founded by women: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-11-29/women-are-breaking-through-the-vc-glass-ceiling-in-china-video
- 77% (114/147) of the world's self-made female billionaires are Chinese while only 11% of male billionaires are chinese. Put another way China has a 1-2 ratio of female to male billionaires while the US has a 1-12.
- Women do much better in business in Asia: Thailand has the highest proportion of female CEOs in the world, with 30 percent of companies employing female CEOs, followed by the People's Republic of China, with 19 percent. In the European Union the figure is 9 percent and in the United States it's 5 percent. Only 14.2% of the top five leadership positions at the companies in the S&P 500 are held by women, according to a recent CNNMoney analysis, out of those 500 companies, there are only 24 female CEOs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_top_executives
- 54% of the mobile moba game is women: https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2018/01/02/574471694/chinas-most-popular-mobile-game-charges-into-american-market
as opposed to like 10% for actual league of legends
When I started learning about Asia I was really surprised that the facts about it are totally different from what I originally thought through stereotypes. It really led to a big change in my thinking and helped me realized how deeply misogyny is embedded into our society. I really thought that some of the stuff we were used to like women not playing video games and 5% CEOs were just normal. It's not, it's emblematic of deep misogyny.
There are men out there in the world who do love their partners, but they’re usually either funny looking, poor, or shy. A lot of them are just as complex as women and get fucked over by people as often as we do. You’re not going to find a man like that in a bar on a Tuesday night or on aTinder browsing binge. And you have to (obviously) give that love back equally.
I know a lot of farmers vent about shit tier men and I am just as guilty of generalizing them as much as the next person, but men are not all monsters and some of our insecurities are not the cause of the males who surround us nor the media we consume.
I’m sorry if I upset or trigger
someone unnecessarily for not being radical but there are men out there who are beautiful, loving, wonderful human beings and women who hurt them just as much as they hurt us. It goes both ways.
Yep, you got us anon, it's because us evil women have high standards, nothing to do with how common it is for men to purposely avoid romance
Do you have any idea how little of the female population uses tinder or goes to bars? Normie women express these same complaints about men too anon, nothing to do with the anon having high standards
Have you ever met any men like that, though? Really? Even if they do exist they're so extremely rare that it doesn't seem worth investing in emotionally.
I've known men that I thought were good and nice but they always reveal themselves at some point to be incapable of true interpersonal connection.
And this isn't even stemming out of a lack of contact with men; most of my friends are male and I used to work a job with mostly men (just by chance, not a male dom field).
I will agree a lot of women are also awful and cold, but for men it's most if not all of them that lack empathy and the ability to bond.
Thank you for your kind reply though, I just think at this point I can never believe anything else. Maybe it isn't reality, but I have nothing proving otherwise.
And of course I won't give up on men or anything, I just can't trust them at all or see them as emotionally equal. The level of care will be there, just at a different level than I have for women. A separate perspective. >>373582
Yeah, my standards are actually "low" (legitimately into short men with interesting faces and want to be the provider) and I've never been to a bar (or even a party) or used a dating website/service. That did seem oddly accusatory, but I imagine the concentration of blatantly shit men is higher there so it makes sense for her to come to that conclusion.
>>373580>There are men out there in the world who do love their partners
Source? Men leave their partners when they're sick more than women do, and they get mroe satisfaction out of being in a marriage than women do.>but they’re usually either funny looking, poor, or shy.
Again, where are you getting this from? If anything being ugly only makes men more bitter it seems. Idk how being poor could affect this, same with shyness.>A lot of them are just as complex as women and get fucked over by people as often as we do
Yeah no. Both men and women can find themselves in unfavourable situations unrelated to gender, BUT the woman has/is/will still get aditionally screwed for being a woman, the man doesn't.>And you have to (obviously) give that love back equally.
Where are you getting the idea that women do less for their partners? Women are the ones that accomodate a men's career usually, also, the marriage thing.>some of our insecurities are not the cause of the males who surround us nor the media we consume
Which insecurities? What causes them?>women who hurt them just as much as they hurt us.
Nah, statistics really aren't on your side at all with this one, bugger off.
Now, I won't deny that there are some men out there who are capable of getting on women's level of decency, but the thing is that it's not natural for them. In order for a man to be a good partner he has to educate himself on the history of women, and really just think "logically".
Men in general don't give a fuck about the suffering they inflict on women in the present, let alone what happened in the past, and how it'll play out in the future. It's also necessary to realize that men benefit from their treatment of women, in this feedback loop, as long as there are mistreated women out there desperate for men's status, men will be able to keep mistreating their partners, because there are other women who would take them…
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You're so brave and outstanding for defending men, anon. You deserve an award.
What do you guys think of this load of absolute shit? Lmao. Girls are used goods, whores and sluts if they get raped as kids, no one would bat an eyelid if a guy left his girlfriend for something like this, especially when rape is seen as being the girl's fault.
Plus all she fucking did was leave the guy's apartment and "feel weird about him", she didn't demean or mock the guy, she even expressed guilt in the title itself.
Moreover, it sounds more like a LARPing male, with their obsession with penetration,as well as thee basic description for the "Chad" archetype and the fact that that's the only post the OP made. Although, that didn't stop people from screeching at their screens as confirmed by these quotes from the thread lmao.>"If I could platinum this comment I would. You said it so well, all I can do is make angry velociraptor noises of pure rage at my screen ATM.">"Thank you. Join the Raptor Club. I felt like I was going to punch a hole through my computer.">"other people make raptor noises? gonna have to tell my bf he is wrong I am not alone!"
old people are unnattractive, this goes for both sexes>having a lot of partners
see >>373797>having a certain body type
fat people are unnattractive, this goes for both sexes
The fact remains that there is an unlimited supply of desperate men, meaning that any woman can have a partner if she wants. Whereas men's lives are completely ruined from the start if they're in the bottom 60% of penis size because that's the only thing that women care about.
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Reminder that men will masturbate to women getting raped, killed, and tortured. I think it takes a lack of empathy and a subhuman mind to do this.
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I remember I was on a gore website and there was a section labeled “female suicides” others being murder torture etc but the only suicide section was female suicide. I got pissed and of course took it to 4chan and they said “well yeah women have life on easy mode of course we want to get off on watching them die”
Fucking hate men. I think the whole thing about “women don’t love us the way we love them. They don’t understand love. Only males understand love,” is pure projection. Men are heartless.
Yup. There's porn sites right now featuring women "acting" as they get killed, shot, stabbed, sexually tortured and abused, mutilated and burned for their enjoyment. We can't hate them as much as they hate us.
And every time you want to vent or just hate men, you're bombarded with>get therapy sweetie uwu>wow as a guy I'm not bad :(>don't generalize half of the species
But men hating women is welcomed with movements dedicated to it.
Do you think there will ever be a breaking point and just split into gender segregated societies
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It's truly sad that there are women with this mindset
I do think it's dumb when women/girls expect their male SOs not to watch porn. It's become too normalized and ingrained into our society at this point. They don't care that much about us, they only care about their ego. All you can do is point out their lack of sexual performance and make jabs at their masculinity until they choose to go on NoPorn of their own volition.
Any guy who says he doesn't watch porn in 2019 is lying to you, and if you ask/tell him not to because of how it makes you feel, he probably thinks the shit those two girls in the last two panels are saying about you (and other) women, end of.
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It's not recent and the artist was quite young when she made the comic
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Good evening I hate men
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Good for the girl who ruined this guys life
What the fuck is wrong with India? The men there are a special breed of evil with no humanity, jesus.
What the fuck is it about that country that just keeps producing such godawful men?>>374355>Does awful shit>Whines about consequences
What a damn shame he didn't die. But of course he fucks even that up and will probably pathetically cling on to life for the rest of his existence.
That's males for you
In their mind men will always be the victims no matter what, it's sad people are more empathetic toward male murderers than they are with female rape victims
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Seriously we need to post more about stupid men being BTFO'd, you know some sprinkles of happiness in between the stories of awful shit men do to us. Would keep the lurking scrots's blood pressure high too.
Petty jealousy is not the problem with porn, it's the fact that you're watching rape on tape that has gotten more and more violent and degrading over time to meet the increasingly extreme tastes of pornsick men.
Do you seriously watch porn and somehow NOT think about the fact that those girls are poor, abused, exploited and likely drugged most of the time? I cant relate.
Wow congratulations you're so special and unique for allowing your boyfriend to watch porn and consuming it yourself.
You deserve a trophy for not being like those other girls anon.
Why were his penis and testicles in front of the bulldog? What was he wearing (if anything at all)? Remember Kero? He could've been asking for it.
Also, why doesn't anybody talk about the fact that false dog attack accusations exist? There are two sides to every story.
i got into an arguement with a makeup company in Dubai about women's rights in india and they tried to play it off like they were fine. reading this makes me sick to my stomach. It mainly seems indian men in general are able to do such horrible things– unspeakable things to a little girl. i have a niece this age.
ONLY MEN DO THIS.
None. This is why i got a lucky lottery draw and was born a lesbian. i don't understand how so many violent and horrible men can exist, but there's way too much evidence against them.
All they can think about is themselves. Always
GUESS I'LL DO EVERYTHING MYSELF
2013 was the spiciest:>1 necrophiliac>1 wack off in public>1 rape joke. bad taste and still awful but not genuine?>raping obama (another rape joke)>1 genuine rape wish, but someone called him out as immoral
out of over 100 replies
Lying won't help us get the point across, anon. Let's stick to facts and actual crimes. Most normfag men just want to rob.inb4 I get banned like other anon calling you out.
Am the original anon from >>374755
None of the threads you linked are the one I saw and mentioned. Sorry I can't provide you the exact source because I don't bookmark micro-manage incel shit I see on Reddit because I want some semblance of sanity and don't have unlimited time.
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>>374535>Also, why doesn't anybody talk about the fact that false dog attack accusations exist?
I once searched "offensive jokes" to see if any were even 1% funny. Of course the top result was reddit and most of the jokes were about rape and murder.
I don't doubt there was a thread where men revealed their rape wishes on reddit. Lest we forget the AMA with a convicted rapist, also posted on reddit, and the fact he obviously wasn't caught for one of his rapes since he edited the post to say 2 instead of three. He admitted he considered it (violent, degrading, planned stranger-rape) the biggest thrill of his life and he wanted to do it again.
But we're gonna pretend reddit is full of angels. rueful laughter
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No, it's a scrot meme that's supposed to represent all women or "female NPCs", depending on their level of generalisation. The point is that all women are shallow emotional beings with no self-awareness or conscious thought, as if the male equivalent of this doesn't exist.
Just replace all the buzzwords in this with shit like "Jordan Peterson", "trap hentai", "Minecraft" and "MGTOW" and you get the kind of men who made this meme.
Except the majority of men are very obviously not interested in any of those things you listed.
But I'd bet that besides things as specific as green party's not a single woman in this thread can deny all of those things about themselves.
i would love to date a soi boi tbh
so long as he actually took care of his awful beard
I think soy-boys lack beards 'cause y'know the extra estrogen (hence the name) so they look less manly.
In the case of male frogs exposed to atrazine (a common herbicide that affects the frogs androgens like testosterone), they're found to be A LOT less aggressive and less lustful or willing to breed even without competition against other male frogs. So yeah, wouldn't mind a soy-boy too if that was the case but sadly though I think most use their lack of development as fuel to feed their anger. A boy who feels inadequate about his appearance can be annoying like the angry incels.
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but the typical soy has that awful patchy "gamer beard"
soys aren't typically incels either. the stereotype of a soy boy is just a man who's more "feminine" than a chad (feminine = bad remember.) incels hate soys because they consider them betas. soys are generally happy males who don't mind being open about their less "manly" pursuits in life which angers the virgins who don't understand why these men can appeal to women and get girlfriends yet they cannot.
incels berate soys for being "submissive" to women, yet they mistake mutual respect and equality in a relationship as such
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The desire demons in dragon age are a really irritating example of this. They don't even just represent sexual desire, just things that people want: revenge, forgiveness, power, material possessions. One kid you see interacting with one just wants a relationship with his absent father. But it's a titty monster obviously.
Fucking women and their waving.
Men NEVER wave as a greeting.
even if women did all the things incels wanted they'd still be like>god, women and their breathing…
because just the presence of a woman is enough to trigger
these retarded incels. they can't contain their primitive male rage+horniness so they blame the very things they take out said rage+horniness on. it's never their fault, it's always a woman's fault.
Hmm, true after looking at some google images a lot do have those types of beards.
I guess I should've said "patchy to no beard" lol
Not only that, but they hate it when women aren't on it, get pregnant and trap men/become single moms (as those guys wouldn't want to ever be fathers just to pump and dump, but women should be forced to give birth and struggle for the rest of their lives)
I think they hate bc because deep down they they believe women should be punished with painful childbirth for being born women in the first place
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i was re-reading JTHM (don't judge me i'm in a nostalgic mood) and had a laugh at this. mood
Edgy man still respects women.
honestly for as much of a meme as jhonen vasquez is, his work was surprisingly feminist and he was writing a lot of women well in this male-dominated eDgY subset of media back when he was popular
he's a cool guy in my book
To be fair MBB doesn’t look 13… her stylists have been styling her REALLY maturely. Sometimes she looks like she’s in her 20s.
That said, I always have a paranoia that a man I meet is a pedo. That his ultimate fantasy is to fuck a child/teenager. It’s frightening how common and excused it is as “just biology”.
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What does lolcow think about this? Who was in the wrong here?
I have never found an apparent normie dude on tinder to have hidden depth. Some men just have no real hobbies and nothing to say, the phrase 'beard culture' is not something that would register with them and they sure as fuck wouldn't know who Sun Tzu is, or what anime and libertarianism are.
Anon was listing traits of nerdy reddit types, but the real normies are even more bland than that. True they do like beer and porn though.
Why do women have to stand by men regardless of their circumstances or how they act?
No one bats an eye when a man leaves his cancer stricken wife, when a man leaves his pregnant wife, when a man leaves his girlfriend because she develops depression or gains weight.
Men can literally leave women at any time for any reason and we all just accept it, but god forbid a woman not want to deal with emotional baggage.
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I made the mistake of searching "women" in r/programming. For every article posted pointing out, "hey, women are severely underrepresented in tech and maybe men should help do something about it ", there are 100s of comments like pic related.
Here's the full thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/a22biq/becoming_a_better_supporter_of_women_in_tech/?st=JSATE2ZQ&sh=b150f142
The under-representation of women in tech is SO much more complicated than women "just not being interested" and it baffles me how absolutely dense and ignorant men can be about this issue, and it saddens me how they will do anything to explain away the problem as WOMEN'S fault, just because they can't bear to acknowledge that sexism is rampant in the industry and it's their responsibility to fix it.
Any other anons in CS/other heavily dominated fields here? How do you deal with this bullshit?
so the reason men can be shit is because of genetics, the reason women can be shit is because of men or just their personality.
lol you guys are a riot.(male)
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ah shit, you're right
i guess i did it by habit tbh
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i made one for boring generic men too
So good anon>>375484
They genuinely get angry at women for just existing, and thus tempting them with our vaginas, so I think there's no winning
It's funny because most of the negative reactions came from white men and they said it was proof (somehow) of non-white (specifically black men) being better because of the 1 or 2 black guys telling white boys to not catcall a girl.
Men are so insecure period.
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I work in tech.
IT is incredibly competitive if you're a female and there's a notion of 'if you make one mistake you are shit at everything'. Pic rel represents it very well. You're either the best or the worst.
Everything you say is undermined, the times I said something on a meeting, a male challenged it and said the exact the same thing but paraphrased and got praises for it.
Men's work ethic is not flexible at all. They hate change, even if it would generate profit and will stand by their old ways wondering why it doesn't work anymore.
When they hired another girl in our department it changed how I worked entirely as there was someone I could relate to, talk to and discuss ideas without constantly being challenged and undermined.
While the diversity recruitment programs may seem unfair to some, they are truly life changing for women in the industry.
I am sorry for my awkward English. It is not my first language.
Fellow female IT worker here and I have another thing to mention about it. You have either two roles as a female in this industry:>The pretty girl everyone is trying to flatter and court>The average/ugly chick who everyone ignores
For the pretty girl it's always having to look over your shoulder because smiling at someone might result in them taking it the wrong way and start approaching you outside of work with inappropriate messages. For the other girl it's about being ignored and having eyes rolled at. My friend is the latter one and I'm the second one and it's miserable for both of us, and neither one of us gets taken seriously.
>While the diversity recruitment programs may seem unfair to some, they are truly life changing for women in the industry.
This. I wish so hard we had more women in the industry because whenever I meet a new female colleague I have to be on my toes until I find out if she's been socialized in the industry to be "one of the guys" and hateful towards other women (because they're "competition") as a coping mechanism. If there were more women, this problem wouldn't exist because men wouldn't be there dominating our headspace.
This. I'm the token attractive female and dudes get super intimidated I am better than them. First they orbit me and then they get very defensive when they realize I am better than them. For example, some dude was shit talking my coding abilities, although he had never seen any of my code (I wasn't even working a coding position). I have to constantly be the MVP in every project and position to be taken seriously.
Everyone is impressed and likes me right now, but I am aware if I didn't play the MVP position and do everything to be the MVP I would be immediately regarded as below average in my talent - although I would still be way more skilled than any of my male peers. I have noticed that as a woman in STEM you have to be way above average to be even qualify as average in many mens eyes. I hear so often dudes shit talking women who are way more skilled than them as "below average in skill".
If you are a woman and want to be counted as good, you have to dedicate everything you have to your job. Though, I admit I do get mad at women in STEM who don't do everything to perform great, because they are enforcing the belief that women aren't that good at this stuff.
I teach programming to kids part time and I don't think me being there changes anything if parents just keep bringing their sons in and not their daughters. I've had loads of female programming teachers, yet it's clear that having a female teacher means nothing to male students.>>376340
That sucks. I like programming, and am pretty good at it I guess, and have been thinking about trying to get into the industry but tbqh I don't think I have it in me to consistently be MVP like that. Should I just try something else?
Didn't know this existed but holy shit my boyfriend is like the definition of a soy boy. Always cooking, baking, feels free to watch kdramas and other 'girly' shit that other men wouldn't watch & enjoys it, and actually respects my radical feminism (not like TERF but rather like Mary Daly radical feminism). He also is fine with doing skin care with me and takes joy in feminine stuff. It's not like he had very many feminine interests before but he's receptive to my interests instead of putting down 'girly' stuff like other men. He's definitely considered a beta but I'd rather have someone who cares for me and respects me than a douchebag.
These types are honestly superior imo. Not because I have a huge ego but because I love how our interests cross over and how I'm treated as an actual human being. He never belittles my intelligence or talks down to me which is so so common with the average man.
Not trying to sperg about males but this is honestly the only type of guy that I'll date.
My husband's super sweet, but his home board is /k/ so he's bombarded with this shit daily. He admitted that he secretly started to resent the "soy archetype" because of the meme, I just have to sit back and hope it doesn't change him as a person.
It's such bullshit. We can't even have nice men because other men will try to ruin it through propaganda.
Dishonest. Would hurt women more to have her as the anointed representative than it could help. >Stacey Abrams
Never heard of her.
I think Tulsi Gabbard would be the best option.
I remember my mom and I talking back in the Bush years that we'd see a black president before a woman, even with all our racial issues. And we were right. People, not just in America, but in many other countries we're heavily involved with, are just too fucking sexist for a woman president.
I'm personally not a fan of Kamala Harris and don't know much about Stacey Abrams. Honestly, any woman who ran and won (if it were to happen) would be in a totally unenviable position. Obama got a lot of shit just for his race and his fathers birthplace. Hell, even Jimmy Carter, a white man, caught a lot of crap for being a peanut farmer from the South, who never hid that. Every criticism with a female president would be laser-focused many times over.
>>376496>misery loves company
These guys hate seeing success and hate it more that it's not happening to them due to entitlement. They sabotage and ruin opportunities because of this stupid fear that if they can't impress autistic retards on the internet, there's no point. And impressing those guys is the only way to success.
If you read exredpill stories, there's a general cult like manner to recruiting. >find sad/mad guy>promise him all the things he wants if only he follows their ways>fuck them over with shitty relationships and divorce after applying rp bullshit>blame said guy that he isn't trying hard enough>guy either quits or stays and remains bitter
Also something interesting I found out was how many of these rp guys would just lie about their "awesome" life for kudo points and to out-redpill each other.>"gf was upset so I fucked her despite her not wanting it">"yeah well I fucked my gf while she SLEPT"
It just gets worse and worse and the lies just build up.
I want to feel bad for red pill women because they're so desperate but they also hate other women yet wants sympathy from them..
I'm starting to think "beta" is just a male aesthetic. My bf is very respectful of women and listen to my (and his sister, mom, female friends) opinions a lot. He just has a pretty masculine body shape so no one calls him a beta or soyboy. >>376474
I don't know what kids/parents do with the projects outside of the lessons tbh. Honestly, a lot of the parents seem detached and like this is just another activity to bus their kids to.
There are girls at the place I teach at, and they all are very engaged and seem like they actually love being there. I wish they'd give a permanent girl student because the boys are 80% ADHD as fuck and only want to talk about fortnite/minecraft and seem like they don't care about anything.
I'm sorry to hear about your friends. I should remember how fortunate I've been. One particular female professor was so impactful to me and is why I decided to take this job instead of retail or something. I have the feeling though, that women in teaching roles is so ingrained in society, it doesn't mean anything or make a difference if she's teaching programming or art to many people.
It might be the work. Web dev is a lot more diverse and attracts more normie type people than other sections of tech, that I've seen. >>376545
so are you seeing him or did you drop him?
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Made the mistake of clicking on a video about "what is beautiful" and clocked this comment. There is so much wrong with this and check that reply-totally sounds like its been written by incels.
I love how he can't even compare fashion models to the average woman but has to compare them to porn, instead. Does he think that just because porn is "low budget", the actresses won't be faking their pleasure and altering their appearance to please men ? That their reactions and bodies, tailored to arouse the viewer, will be "realistic" ?
Women can at least tell 50 Shades of Grey from reality, but men think their porn is real and judge women by its standards.
Genuine trad women, like one anon mentioned a few threads back were alot of the times just organic hippie vegan moms or just basic instagram aesthetic moms, definitely aren't on redpillwomen looking up tips to be trad. Alot of them are larpers, some are just frumpy homely women needing to feel wanted which that turns into hating other women to be a cool girl.>>376546
Web dev can be ok and web design too.>>376553>men in covers with abs wland chiseled jaws
They always cling to cliche outdated romance novel covers with fabio as the model that nobody reads anymore
see, men do this, and then they cry about how men aren't allowed to express feelings and they get all pent up and have to act tough all the time and and and
IT'S FUCKING TOXIC MASCULINITY. THE PATRIARCHY BRAINWASHED YOU. THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IS THAT MEN ARE HURTING MEN AND WOMEN. MALE IDEALS HURT MEN AND WOMEN.
fuck i wish i could just drill this into every man's head since so many of them don't fucking get it.
And ofc they get disgusted if there's an accident or hate the smell, they want to put their dicks where shit comes out of but want to pretend like shit doesn't come out of there
Or men who are into surprise anal but act like porn stars don't change their diet, enema, etc days before it even happens
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Anon, you could have a society full of men expressing emotion to other men, wearing dresses, painting their nails, doing "feminine" things and they would still
hate women and commit acts of violence.
Soyboys, softbois, feminist men, they're all the same.
Why do men think the answer to everything is “she just needs to have sex”?>girl is frustrated
She needs to get laid >girl is anxious
She needs to get laid>girl is sad
She needs to get laid
It’s them projecting
Sex is the only thing they know and their only coping mechanism so they project that onto women as if we are all sex addicts
they dont think women are worth harassing if they dont have a big ass or tits because its not worth the consequences to them if there's "nothing to grab onto"
probably why some men/predators go after what they generally consider 'unattractive' women so no one will believe them.
Oh of course, completely agree.
That's one of the most puzzling things I've yet to find a reasonable answer to, especially from a man himself.
Why do they complain about being drafted into wars, when men are the ones creating and profiting from wars? (Yet they say women shouldn't be in the army)
Why do they complain about the justice system (either with incarceration or custody) when it's other men making the laws? (Yet they argue that women shouldn't be able to get alimony or child support)
Why do they complain about homelessness when it's other men in business and law that run the corporations and government? (Yet they complain that women have made their own
support groups and networks)
I cannot truly think of a single issue that men talk about that is directly caused by women.
I don't think men will ever be able to answer these questions because of the immense self-loathing that would occur upon the realization that your sex really is the problem, therefore YOU are the problem. Or, even if they do bitch and complain about these problems, they're not really that big of a problem, because if men genuinely desired another society, they would make it. They literally have the power to do so.
It's not sheer luck or coincidence that men continue to build the same societies, era after era. They like how things are because things have always been this way.
This reminds me of when I first moved to the US as a kid and started school. Boys would regularly touch me and try to pull down my underwear at recess. they would run at me and dry hump me and run away.
Because I couldn't speak English, I would just end up crying all the time and the teacher would yell at me.
When my mom found out and tried to confront the school, everyone said that "boys that young can't even have those thoughts", and "they have no reason to touch her". So they kept doing it. I held back crying from it because it would piss of the teachers and other students would laugh at me, so I basically shut in and became a mute at school for a couple years while telling my mom everything was okay now.
I've told this to two men, and one said it's too far in the past to matter and the other said I should have tried to hit them if I was really bothered by it.
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I'm a senior biology major in a college in the south US and the sheer amount of lazy males taking advantage of women boils my blood. If you ever run across an incompetent man in a scientific field and wonder "how did he ever get out of school?", I guarantee the answer is that he made women do all the work for him.
They mooch off of women's work and kindness whenever they can. Women here are socialized to be so nice and docile and accommodating that when a man is lazy, they're more than willing to cover for his ass and pamper his ego while they do it. Whenever there's a group of one man and 2 or more women, the man ALWAYS sits on his ass and does the absolute bare minimum while the women laugh at his jokes and go out of their way to make it look to the professor like he's done an equal amount of work. I've seen this too many times to count over 4 years, and sadly I kinda participated in it during my freshman year. It's the same when the gender ratio is reversed, too– I've had to work in multiple groups of mostly men, and they just sit on their lazy asses and joke around until I take the initiative to start getting any work done. They act like I'm being unreasonable and bossy about it, of course.
They leech off my work and then have the audacity to be rude to me for it. In freshman biology, the guy who sat in front of me would blatantly copy answers off my tests and then make digs at me during group discussion. In Botany the next year, a guy came up to me during the first lab and aggressively demanded that I re-explain some things that the teacher had taught us. When I told him I didn't know an answer, he told me "don't be so rude" and was an asshole to me at every possible opportunity for the whole semester. I was in a developmental biology class recently and ended up having to do an entire lab for 3 men, and they thanked me for it by being passive-aggressive, constantly talking over me, and jumping around singing and dancing while I worked. One of them literally cornered me in the cafeteria a few days later to bug me about the next lab.
I've seen other women having similar experiences but they're too nice to openly talk about it. Women in college, don't put up with males' parasitic shit. You don't owe them your time, help or energy. Giving it to them will only hurt you.
(sorry for blog)
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I hate men
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On the topic of korean men
"My wife was disrespecting me so i beat her up. Time for beer and relaxing some"
Do you think it's possible to pick these sorts of men out from others? Will it become obvious what creeps they are at some point? Even little signs?
Or do all men fantasize about this? I wonder that, too.
Everytime I've been around them, they've made me want to kill myself, I have never seen a single one who didn't enjoy watching girls/women suffer, it's pretty much a hobby for them, with hard core porn being so rampant.
All hope for a decent guy is lost, there is no such thing, never had been never will be, it's like they're just there to suck the life out of me and push me to harm myself.
I'm so repulsed with them I don't even want to call them men.
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Sorry for same fagging. This is the picture i wanted to attach to my post.
Remember that Austalian MGTOW who would video tape himself throwing a fit at his Chinese mail order bride for "keeping her legs closed"?
That kind of thing is so normal for men to do, they screech about it so frequently and let the whole world watch it happen.
They do exist anon but they're hard to find, because obviously any guy who makes it publicly known how great he is will usually be an asshole. They tend to be guys that have strong sisters and mothers, and don't think too much about the big questions, they just focus on getting on with their own lives.
Of course guys get way too much praise for doing the bare minimum, so they don't need to be better. I've seen girls think their boyfriend is the second coming off christ just because he eats her out or does the dishes occasionally.
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>>377439>So I said i may be ugly but at least Im not short and even my ugly ass wouldnt fuck you.
Gets em everytiem. Used to say something similar whenever men would pick on my weight. They'd get frothing mad at the rejection lmao.
How am I looking down on him? I simply listed his interests that are perceived as 'feminine' and how he'd be considered a 'beta,' which is a term coined by stupid ideologies that I and most people make fun of here. He's not a beta to me but rather a caring and loving guy that appreciates me and others around him.
I stated at the bottom of my post that I'd rather date someone who respects me and shares my interests despite them potentially being seen as an emasculated male by other guys who have serious issues with their own masculinity.
I've played a lot of otome and I wouldn't use them as examples for healthy heterosexual relationships, anon. The protagonist in a majority of games is a blank, passive, pretty girl to project yourself onto, and love interests making unwanted sexual advances on the protag or otherwise taking her agency away are super common.
If anything, I've seen men use otome games/literature targeted towards women as proof of the "women only want abusive Chads" incel meme.