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No. 2350339
Discuss the current psyop regarding ugly and old men being shilled as attractive.
This thread is also for talking about topics like beauty double standards in media, ugly fictional and irl men shilled as attractive, science about male aging and unnatractiveness, etc
>do not try to defend ugly men ITT no1currsPrevious Threads:
>>2305353>>2278909>>2262944 No. 2350383
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I hate seeing random ugly men when browsing youtube, ugly man jumpscare
No. 2350808
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“There have been two great accidents in my life. One was the trolley. The other one was Diego. Diego was by far the worst.”
-Frida Kahlo
No. 2350821
>>2350383jesus i really hate the blunt bangs that asian guys usually have. would look way better thinned out
>>2350711short also lol
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a photo of a 18 year old swedish footballer went viral, and of course, moids started seething, with—non-white one's claiming that if you're attracted to him, you must be a Nazi and white men complaining that women are pedophilic for being attracted to him cause he's so 18, even though he’s probably more fit and has higher testosterone levels than most men
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even rw moids are starting to realize that no woman likes the "bald and beard" look. It doesn't matter how many steroids muscles you get, you'll look even uglier and disgusting
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>>235033910/10 Op pic Vega needs more exposure
>>2351443Yep but I bet it will take some time before they realise how redpill podcasts have been lying to them because it was men who spread the idea this is how men should look to get women.
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This ugly moid popped up on my timeline again, why tf does he think he's attractive enough to post this shit who's gassing him up?!
No. 2351844
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Remember when everyone was trying to shill this moid as attractive? Before I understood the psyop, I always thought it was so weird how everyone was gassing the actor up and talking about how 'hot' Neville Longbottom grew up to be. He just stopped being a fat child and fixed his teeth, but he always looked kind of ugly to me, even after he lost weight and went through puberty. Whenever I heard other girls hype him, it always felt performative and most of the praise came from other moids. I get it now though, he's the achievable 'glow up' any mid (at best) moid could hope to achieve. His eyes are literally lopsided and it's only more pronounced in how close they are, along with all his other misplaced and disproportionate facial features. I don't know how someone could have negative lip and positive jaw.
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>>2351844Samefag, seriously his smile freaks me out. This article was from 10 years ago. He's 21 in picrel and already looked busted.
https://www.nylon.com/articles/matthew-lewis-harry-potter-shirtless(Also hilarious how people talked about Rowling back then vs now)
No. 2351927
>>2351776I don't get this depressed career woman vs. happy housewife dichotomy. Those bosses also don't give a shit about scrotes so..
? What point is he making??
No. 2351965
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>>2351776This man wouldn't even stand up to his wife's boss to stop treating her badly. He'd rather encourage her to run away and stay inside all the time. Pathetic.
No wonder this site has 12 luigifag threads because he just shot the CEO instead.
Why do these moids hide their fear of confrontation behind "be my little housewife who is dependent on me plz plz plz"?
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idk where to post this but I found this while sorting my files and I think it's relevant to some of the discussions that were had in this thread
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why do libfems do this? why do they outright lie about what literally everyone can see is natural? no woman wants her husband to become a fat slob; that's literally a nightmare.
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>>2352025>the amount of likesGrim as hell. We are truly doomed because female characters who are even slightly 'ugly' are seen as woke propaganda by both men and women in fandom spaces. Meanwhile, this ugly thing gets glazed to the moon and back because libfems are absolute doormats. Kind of reminds me of the amount of glazing the ugly dwarf guy was getting in the Dunmeshi fandom. Like, women were unironically saying that dude flashing his panties and Falin and Marcille bathing naked and groping each other’s tits in the bath means both men and women are getting equal levels of fanservice.
No. 2352173
>>2352025His wife gave birth to his daughter, yet she looks pretty much the same (but with longer hair) as when the characters first met, when they were 21/22. If she manages to stay fit and attractive at 26 despite being a wife and a mother, I don't know how this
isn't a glow down on his part.
It really demonstrates the double standard moids set for themselves vs for women. Would it be a glow up for his wife if she also became fat and ugly? At least it would make more sense for her.
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>>2352104I never learned much about her life. To be honest, I was never really interested, but moids are always quick to point out her unibrow and ugliness as a matter of why we shouldn't take her seriously. And yet you can always just point out how grotesque this man she subjected herself to as better evidence than anything. I am honestly shocked by how disgustingly monstrous he is. Why does no one ever talk about this, how is this the first time I'm actually seeing this? Did he groom her, was it an arranged marriage? I have heard briefly about him before in passing (like that he was significantly older than her, that's it), but no one ever described how truly hideous and terrible he really was. An unironic ogre demon. He's looks like a villainous caricature of himself but it's just real.
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>>2352104>>2350808>>2352205>Kahlo describing Rivera:
>His wide, dark, and intelligent bulging eyes appear to be barely held in place by his swollen eyelids. They protrude like the eyes of a frog, each separated from the other in a most extraordinary way. They thus seem to enlarge his field of vision beyond that of most persons. It is almost as if they were constructed exclusively for a painter of vast spaces and multitudes. The effect produced by these unusual eyes, situated so far away from each other, encourages one to speculate on the ages-old oriental knowledge contained behind them.>On rare occasions, an ironic yet tender smile appears on his Buddha-like lips. Seeing him in the nude, one is immediately reminded of a young boy-frog standing on his hind legs. His skin is greenish-white, very like that of an aquatic animal. The only dark parts of his whole body are his hands and face, and that is because they are sunburned. His shoulders are like a child’s, narrow and round. They progress without any visible hint of angles, their tapering rotundity making them seem almost feminine. The arms diminish regularly into small, sensitive hands… It is incredible to think that these hands have been capable of achieving such a prodigious number of paintings. Another wonder is that they can still work as indefatigably as they do.>Diego’s chest — of it we have to say, that had he landed on an island governed by Sappho, where male invaders were apt to be executed, Diego would never have been in danger. The sensitivity of his marvelous breasts would have insured his welcome, although his masculine virility, specific and strange, would have made him equally desired in the lands of these queens avidly hungering for masculine love.>His enormous belly, smooth, tightly drawn, and sphere-shaped, is supported by two strong legs which are as beautifully solid as classical columns. They end in feet which point outward at an obtuse angle, as if moulded for a stance wide enough to cover the entire earth. No. 2352224
>>2352218She sounds like the biggest
victim of ugly male psyop ever, and also a pickme. He'd be accepted by lesbians because he has moobs? What?
No. 2352231
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>>2352205>her uglinessI've always thought she was very pretty, and got tons of dick and pussy. Also yes, he did groom her (they met when she was 17 iirc) and cheated on her like crazy, even with her sister.
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>>2352231What's with hideous moid painters grooming much younger female painters? Reminds me of pic related, painter Kent Williams who is more than twice Soey's age and has kids similar in age to her from a previous marriage. She was a student of his when they met.
No. 2352310
So I'm 24, I graduated highschool 5-6 years ago. Today, i stumbled upon a male acquaintance from HS. He used to be slim, had a head full of hair and good posture, he wasn't extra handsome but wasn't ugly neither, just healthy looking. I couldn't even recognize him nowadays: he got VERY fat, horrid posture, almost balding and looking like he was melting in the face. I was so shocked, I know we're older nowadays but that's just insane, I look similar to my HS self just more "mature" so to speak yet you can still recognize me, but he was straight up a whole different person! wtf is going with men nowadays?? We're not even 30 yet and he already looks like he could be my uncle, he's only 24!!
No. 2352343
>>2352310I know a lot of 30+ and let me tell you all of them look better than their male counterparts. Men are unironically the one who let themselves go yet they keep screeching that we're the one doing it
Also if you think you die when you hit 30 you're dumb,the habits you build in you 20s will heavily influence your 30+,if men don't have motivation when they're this young they're a lost cause
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can this drug really de-ogreize a walled male?
No. 2352704
>>2352306I feel this hard. He doesn't look like a deep fried lobster, his face is way less deformed than the average chav's, his hair and clothes look presentable, and he doesn't look like he smells of wet dog and weed. 100/10 Brit, bet he gets all the girls at the chippy.
The bar is truly in Hell.
>>2352047Nothing can convince me that the Senshi thirst isn't TIFs grasping at straws as a cope. They, and the other desperately depressed terminally online girls, always meme themselves into wanting to fuck/become the ugliest, greasiest old men.
No. 2352809
>>2350808I always hated Khalo and I would always get shit for it. What the fuck kind of "empowering feminist figure" is she when all she does is demand pity? I would have respected her way more if she had a harem of hot young men who she objectified. But no, she had to be a pickme for ugly shrek
She really was the beyonce of her times.
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>>2352704>>2352047I have only met moids and TiFs try to convince me that the lesbait pandering with two conventionally attractive blonde anime girls (one being an elf and the other having gigantic tits) is the same as old hairy dwarven gonk panty shots. You don't even see bulge, it's just meant to be silly.
Which brings me to mention how any geeky moids who simp hard for dwarves and lambast elves (especially male elves) are demonstrating how insecure they really are. Dwarfposting in geek subcultures is like the muh skilinity cope for them, but even more dorky and cringe. 'Knife-ears' isn't a dead giveaway, but any mention about how 'badass' dwarves are and you just know the moid behind the words is pathetic af. Most geeky moids are undesirable, but dwarfposting moids are perhaps the worst, short of any moid outright into fantasy pornslop.
No. 2352979
>>2351924>monsters in resident evil are less disgustingHey, Nemesis isn't disgusting, he's just a bit freaky. I'd rather have him stalking me than any moid.
>i would rather live in racoon city.It exploded, so even that dream is dead, it's sad.
>>2352246Soey is such a disappointment. Most of her work is semi-naked with lingerie and shibari. The art scene is so full of idealized women and then painters will make self portraits with their dicks out, looking like melted butter, and get praised endlessly.
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>>2352884Why are elves portrayed as so feminine nowadays? Elves were always supposed to be beautiful, but they were also graceful and strong. Even the male elf characters get affected, they go from cute bishies to femboys. There is a big difference between the way elf characters like Link are drawn in fanart then vs now
No. 2353019
>>2352999>>2353001>>2353010Yeah I noticed this too and link really has a big male fanbase of viewing him as this femboy /sissy when, if you look at the games especially the older ones he really isnt portrayed like that.
I will admit I an amused at the arguments over characters like Bridget who apparently is a troon now and seeing troons go apeshit over him being described as a femboy because it "invalidates his identidy" like LMAO
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>>2352939Gladly. I can honestly say at this point, as a woman involved in these geek hobbies, most geeky moids are simply unattractive, there's no way around it really. But dwarfposters are the worst, fantasy coomers aside, because they are extremely insecure about themselves as men, and how they relate to women.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarves/Subreddit isn't as active as it use to be, but you still see glimpses of it. In my own personal experience, this is a bit more common with older geeks, but I have seen it in younger geeks too. I think it might actually be a cope for getting older as well, now that I think about it. One of my best friend's exes was also a dwarfposter. He was an obese redditor who prided himself on his knowledge of microbrews and welding. He identified with dwarves of course, and he was so autistic and weird about his hatred of elves. Mostly in DnD, it would just lead to him acting like a That Guy at the table, but it could be excused for him playing a character. What couldn't be excused was how this also translated into his real life. He hated beautiful men with a passion. They weren't 'manly' enough, and he made sure to make fun of characters my friend (his gf at the time) made for DnD, because of course she wanted to play elven prettybois. I didn't really care for elves either, if I'm being honest, but it made me realize how insecure he was in real life when he started putting down any men who were actually attractive as 'soft' or 'weak' or 'vain' or whatever. He would always talk about how 'effeminate' other men were for doing something as simple as wearing cologne or washing their face with anything but Head and Shoulders. He also hated romantic comedies (which to be fair, I do too, for different reasons) that his gf liked because they gave 'unrealistic expectations'. Ironically, he wanted a romantic subplot in our DnD game where his male dwarf character would have an enemies-to-lovers relationship with a female elf. The DM complied because he too was a coomer. It was the grossest thing to witness. They eventually broke up, but he had the gall to say she was getting too fat despite being beyond morbidly obese.
It was so overt, it was a revelation, but since then I have seen it in less egregious ways and there's always a pattern of behavior I associate with moids who identify with dwarves. They're usually pretty hateful, they hold grudges, they do not appreciate beauty, or if they do, they only appreciate female beauty (of course) and hate the idea that it can exist in men as something that
isn't a character flaw. They tend to be heavy drinkers, like every dwarfposting moid I knew would drink at least couple beers at night. Some would just excuse it as a 'craft beer' hobby or whatever gay shit. They are extremely moody, like they'll go from goofball one second to rage the next like a toddler. They talk about principles constantly, but one of the dwarfposting moids I met confided in me that he had a secret collection of photos he pressured women into giving him. We don't talk anymore. They're all very insecure in themselves and how women perceive them and constantly lie about how much they can lift or how intelligent they are, as if this should be the greatest matter to women and what we find attractive. I've had at least three of these moids tell me they would have gone into the Marines but they punched the drill sergeant in the face. And they are all fairly unattractive, usually in the same ways. Fat, short, gross facial hair, ruddy pore-riddled skin, balding, sweaty etc.
I think their hatred of elves is the worst part, because even if I don't like elves in fiction that much, I know what they represent to these moids in real life. They resent beautiful, effortless beauty and natural allure and grace that they symbolize, especially in other males. Yet almost all of them, despite their cringe elf-hatred, usually have some wish that a beautiful woman would appreciate what they supposedly bring to the table and they would put aside their differences, as in, how beautiful she is and how ugly he is. It's not just something they desire in fantasy roleplay or vidya. They want this in real life, and if they can't get a 10/10 Stacy, they'll just pretend they are voluntarily celibate or shack up with some poor girl while they fantasize about trading up. It's also why dwarfposting moids never say anything about female dwarves, and if they do, it's that they're dutiful wives and not much else.
Like what
>>2352948, this is entirely the point. While I have met dwarfposters who are tall or average height, I have met more who are on the short side and are very insecure about it, along with so many other things, but they make up for it in their muh skilinity. Dwarves are short but
still 'manly'. What makes them manly is this cargo cult of masculinity. They have immense facial hair, they're muscular and strong, they drink copious amounts of alcohol, they're skilled in some kind of 'craft' (from my experience, these moids irl tend to be very nerdy and are into cars or computers), they're 'passionate' (aka BPdemons who switch from goofy and jolly to angry and begrudging), they're focused on 'hard work'/the grindset but 'play hard' when it's time to play, and most importantly, they are short and usually ugly. Men desperately want for their so-called masculinity to be an attractive quality to women, that's why they shill it so hard when in reality, they're just ugly and insecure and trying to make up for it.
Dwarves represent that manliness, and best of all for men as a collective, they
are short, so
any man can access it, even height isn't a barrier. It's like how a lot of bodybuilders are on the shorter side, even they can lift themselves into muh skilinity.
These moids see themselves as dwarves, bravely toiling in the mines for resources, which in real life translates to them working in a call center or a phone repair shop. If they're with a woman, this will definitely be something they resent about her if she doesn't have a 'hard-working' mindset like him. Most of the time though, they won't have any woman to speak of, and they'll pretend they're okay with that because they're too busy dedicating themselves to something more important, like the grind. They won't call it this, but they'll act like they are too busy having fun, which is just drinking themselves into a coma playing video games, or working hard or perfecting whatever craft they have.
In short, any geeky moid who's starts shitting on elves and talking about how great dwarves are is a major red flag for a bunch of personality flaws, though honestly, most of the time they're pretty ugly so that should be enough. I would go so far as to say avoiding geeky moids all together, even if you share hobbies.
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Nonas I just watched this for the first time because my dad wanted to. Besides this movie being a sexist pedo mess the thing that pissed me off the most were how OLD and UGLY all the men were. The age range for the men in this movie was like 50-60 and the age range for the women was… you guessed it… 20-30 at most. I can't believe this Brad Pitt character is supposed to be hot. He's shirtless in more than one scene and there's an underaged character trying to have sex with him and he says no because "he doesn't want to go to jail because of pussy". Quentin Tarantino should never be allowed near a woman again.
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>>2352999What every nonna has said. Moids only value beauty when it serves them specifically, like in women. It's not enough that Link is considered cute to women, in fact they hate it, so they have to make him fuckable to themselves instead. Moids are also obsessed with sexual dimorphism. It's not enough that Link is somewhat androgynous (as in, youthfully handsome), he has to be a woman with a flat chest and a dick for moids to get off. It's very common that these same moids who draw him as a femboy draw him getting assfucked by the ultramasculine and ugly Ganondorf. Their brains are fried by porn, and everything revolves around their coom.
In Tolkien's conception, which all elves were initially inspired by, elves were basically demigods. They weren't just 'pretty', let alone bratty fucktoys who live in the woods and get raped by orcs. They were practically immortal, near divine beings. All the nonnas pointing out the pornification are correct, but I want to mention something else that happens more often in Western media: Uglification.
I place some of the blame on how elves in Tolkien's works are cast in the movies, because while it's hard to find beautiful men, it's not impossible. They just choose to cast ugly men, which makes elves appear more mundane, so when they act like elves, they come off as 'haughty'. They're not haughty, they are literally meant to be next to angels, that is their place in the mythos. But it's hard to see this scrote as some ethereal being. He's just some fuggo with pointy ears. I think while it's more common to see the femboyification of elves in anime and related media, it's more common to see uglification of elves in western media. Both are bad, and I don't know which one is worse.
No. 2353080
>>2353043I have been avoiding this movie so I have no idea how bad it actually is. That poster tells me all I need to know. Two ugly post-wall scrotes and a young woman with a lovedoll face. I guess that means the casting is correct because that
is Hollywood, but I don't want to watch this shit.
It doesn't surprise me that it's pedobait either, he did defend Roman Polanski. I don't care that he later apologized for it, he was an adult man when he defended him back then too. Actually, this does make me kind of curious to see how this is portrayed in the movie, just not enough to actually watch it.
>>2353064Weirdly related to my dwarfposting remarks earlier, not to blog, but the same scrote my friend was dating was
obsessed with Tarantino's work, and the last movie he and my friend watched together was this movie kek. He said it was really good, and that's how I knew it was going to be a shit movie. She hated it of course and tried to tell me about it in private (her rabid fanboy bf wouldn't let her get a word in edge-wise), but she never got around to doing it. What was the Bruce Lee scene?
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>see people recommending x romance movie
>take a look at it
>leading moid is either ugly or too old compared to the leading woman
To the trash It goes, if there is one genre of movie I wouldn't ever waste time watching if there is ugly men is romance, only pretty boys and himbos deserve my attention.
No. 2353114
>>2353080I wish I hadn't watched it because it just felt like three wasted hours of my life that I'll never get back. Polanski has almost no lines and appears in very few scenes, and none of them paint him as a bad guy. There's even one scene at a party where someone says that Polanski is exactly Sharon's type, which is "cute, short, and looks like a 12-year-old boy", which is REALLY weird phrasing since we all know which one of them actually likes 12-year-olds, and it sure as hell isn't Sharon Tate.
The Bruce Lee scene is a scene were Tarantino's Mary Sue character (Brad Pitt) beats up Bruce Lee and BL is portrayed as a very annoying, arrogant and weak guy who doesn't know how to fight and who gets overpowered by our macho main character, kek. Really ridiculous and Bruce Lee's daughter said that it was extremely uncomfortable for her to watch people laughing at this character who is supposed to be her dead father getting humiliated.
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>>2352934I hate it, especially when male goblins are at the same time often depicted as a fantasy variant of the Fat Ugly Bastard rape fetish. It's just the midget version of what orcs represent in geeky pornbrained moids. Reminds me of how much I hate this fucking artist. It's so disappointing being a woman into geeky hobbies.
I don't want to see this shit like picrel, and that's not even how orks in 40k work. They will complain if women 'disrespect' lore, but then shit like this is okay because it's 'funny', and the humor is porn.
I wish there were more female only spaces for these hobbies. It's easier to find with DnD, but it's impossible for other hobbies. Everything is just infested with scrote coomerism.
>>2353070I use to love TES, but anything possibly interesting in any fantasy world is ruined by moids and their disgusting need to sexualize everything. Look up how the female orsimer look compared to male orsimer. The male orcs look like fucking orcs, and the female orcs just look like bimbos with little bottom fangs. They always ruin shit for their boners. Especially in fantasy, because it's muh escapism.
I use to care a lot about intricate, believable worldbuilding that felt unique, but at some point I realized, the most unique thing you can do in fantasy worldbuilding is to subject moids to the same kind of gratuitous double standards and sexual objectification they subject us to and take for granted. I'm just doing things mostly for my own escapism at this point, and you wouldn't believe how alienating this is for moids even when they do it to us all the time. One of the things I've started employing when I run games, instead of the female characters being the ever beautiful counterparts to the more monstrous males of their species, I just reverse it. Once they start noticing a pattern, they mention how I only have pretty boy NPCs, and how it doesn't make sense and is unrealistic. I don't know what would be better, making all the male villain characters still very attractive, or having their villainy represented in how ugly they are. I know it's kind of autistic to still entertain moids at this point, but it's fun for me to see their fantasies turned upside down.
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>>2353114So they tried to portray Sharon as liking Polanski for anything but his money and prestige? That's the biggest cope of all. I wish he died instead of her. It's pretty obvious to me that she had crippling self-esteem issues at the very least and was clinging to any kind of stability and validation when she decided to marry him. He negged the shit out of her when they first worked together. It's ironic that he loved her performance in Valley of the Dolls, which is about women facing the corrupting influence of Hollywood and the evils they face there. He probably got off to it, in the same way Neil Gaiman (another ugly Jewish scrote with sadboi trauma) got off on entrapping troubled young women and soiling their 'purity'.
It's like Tarantino is still trying to shield Polanski, even after he supposedly apologized for defending him. The only reason he sort of condemned Weinstein was because he knows how bad all this looks on him, but he tells on himself in the stories he tells. Are there even any women who like his shit? I know some girls supposedly do, but they're mega pickmes. All his shit is ultraviolence and rape jokes.
Why did Tarantino portray Bruce Lee like this? Did he just think it was funny? Or did he want him to be a foil to his badass Gary Stu to be like 'look at how badass he is, he beat up Bruce Lee'?
>>2353150It's so fucked up because you know that's why they think women secretly
want rape, even from the most hideous, vile creatures they can imagine. It gives them hope they'll have a chance, and it won't
really be rape because uhhhhh secretly the
victim liked it somehow even if the rapist is fucking disgusting. They know handsome men women actually want to fuck don't have to resort to any of that, but if they can believe hard enough that we might feel pleasure from fucking a ugly scrotes like them, maybe, then they can have a 10/10 big booba elf gf. It actually makes me feel like
>>2351924, they want this reality so bad, and they're half way there. Most men are ugly, and most women are relatively pretty. The only difference is that we will never truly want a disgusting orc-like moid.
At worst, you see how this desperate, delusional mindset affects how they view rape
victims. They really want to believe that women are shackled to base urges like sex, like they are.
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>>2353030Quality post, thank you. For some reason, the thought of "dwarfposters" being real men with a specific behavior pattern and issues associated with them in real life is so funny. You'd never think this if you only saw them online and thought they just like posting and making jokes about fantasy dwarves.
Excuse the blogposting but unfortunately, my sister likes dwarves and dwarfposting and she also had a crush on a fat, bald, bearded scrote in her tabletop gaming club who is older than her and known for being a womanizer (she was heartbroken when he started dating someone else after playing with her feelings). I think her awkwardness, geekiness, overall weirdness and unfeminine behavior (like mine) make her think, at least subconsciously, that she's unworthy of having an attractive boyfriend, so she developed a fetish for ugly men as a cope. I never talk about this to anyone, but it's been torturing me for a while now, and it's not like I can tell my mother because she'll think I'm being overly judgemental. At least my sister's taste in husbandos seems to be improving lately.
>>2353131I hate this fucker's art so much. He constantly pokes fun at coomers and coomer tropes, but he's not actually criticizing anything, his art is still born from his own horniness. He's just a slightly more self-aware coomoid and gets tons of praise from other porn-addicted scrotes for it as if he was above other porn addicts for employing a bit of meta humor.
>The male orcs look like fucking orcs, and the female orcs just look like bimbos with little bottom fangs.I hope there are mods to fix this kinda shit, because I wanted to play TES.
>I'm just doing things mostly for my own escapism at this point, and you wouldn't believe how alienating this is for moids even when they do it to us all the time. One of the things I've started employing when I run games, instead of the female characters being the ever beautiful counterparts to the more monstrous males of their species, I just reverse it. Once they start noticing a pattern, they mention how I only have pretty boy NPCs, and how it doesn't make sense and is unrealistic.Based, I wish more women understood that they can make their own ideal fantasies come true in any kind of media, instead of having to suffer through whatever moids shit out, and they shouldn't give a shit about what males think of it (they don't give a shit what women have to say about female objectification and male degeneracy either so why should a woman be ashamed of her own harmless fantasies?). When I was in my sister's club's D&D campaign, I made my character a beautiful long-haired half-elf guy whose mother was an elf. I should've made her a human who married a male elf instead, fuck.
>I don't know what would be better, making all the male villain characters still very attractive, or having their villainy represented in how ugly they are. I know it's kind of autistic to still entertain moids at this point, but it's fun for me to see their fantasies turned upside down.Keeekkkk I'm a villainfag so my pussy tells me hot villains, but the villains being ugly would do more to moids than just make them roll their eyes, they would actually feel offended and attacked.
>>2353150They just want women to be as degenerate as them, but without any standards for males so they still have a chance. Imagine if women were actually as degenerate as moids are in real life and in the same way, but didn't give a fuck about ugly scrotes and only wante to fuck 10/10 prettyboys. Imagine if women felt free to call ugly moids ugly in public and didn't get demonized and accused of being "shallow."
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>>2353258I use to think it was just people joking on the Internet too, but unfortunately, since I am so involved in this subculture and I live somewhere it's very prevalent, I realize it's not a joke and it really does reflect a sad and ugly perspective on reality these moids have. They really are that resentful of beautiful moids and do everything to shill muh skilinity, despite being dorky losers in real life.
I have so many stories, but I don't want to completely reveal myself because I think people who know me would instantly recognize me from my horror stories of the geeky moid world. I would also love to run a game for other nonnas here that would be interested, if I figured out the best way to exclude moids from potentially infiltrating. Especially because the game I was suppose to play got cancelled tonight.
I have witnessed similar situations as well, where women in this subculture usually have very damaged self-esteem because of their general lack of interest in typical 'girly' things (like makeup and fashion). Ironically, we end up surrounded by literal moid fantasies and it only makes it worse for some women, like your sister for example. It's very sad. You don't fit in with normie women and their humiliation rituals to appease moids, but you can't escape it either when you indulge your actual hobbies because it's somehow even worse than real life.
They will act like we're infiltrating their hobbies without realizing us a lot of us were always interested, we just never had a place to indulge it. Apparently we still don't, but we can make it. A lot of my skills in art (and specifically 3d) come from my desire to see beautiful moids come to life. God bless the women who dedicate themselves to modding vidya, that's where I started too. We're surrounded by male dictated dream worlds in both fantasy and real life, the only bastion is if we can create something for ourselves for once. You can't rely on moids to honestly portray an accurate representation of what females want to see without injecting their own self-interests into it. It disappoints me when other women with the skills, who are likewise involved with in the creation of these fantasies, use it to only satisfy moids. I know I use to feel guilty about it, but the only way to tip the scales is to be as overt with it as they are in literally
everything. Above anything else, we shouldn't have to self-police our own fucking fantasies, especially if we're talented in creation.
I think I will end up doing both handsome villains and ugly villains, that's where their range of representation can be, much like how they portray female characters kek. The only time you see ugly or old female characters is if they're literally villainous.
>>2353284I haven't even read his fic or knew his art had an actual narrative. Barf. I only know I see these memes reblogged everywhere (like I saw one in that dwarf subreddit). I hate how scrotes think porn is a justifiable punchline, this is also why I hate funnymen, but that's an aside. Moids who always represent themselves as paragons of purity inevitably turn out to be ugly fucks who have no trouble resisting, because no one is trying to seduce them in the first place. Being a virginal moid is only impressive if he's extremely handsome and intentionally saving himself. I definitely prefer virgins or less experienced moids, but they're not fooling anyone if they're unattractive and addicted to porn. Honestly, men using porn should be viewed as the equivalent to sleeping around. They're not really pure if their eyes have witnessed hundreds of breasts, pussies, and assholes.
No. 2353424
>>2351443Do they not know that the "bald buff beard" look is more of a gay bear aesthetic? I swear to god there's some gay men prompting straight dudes to become unwitting sex objects for them.
>>2351466>>2352024This is my first time in the UMP threads. I love it so much.
>>2351940I think about this all of the time. Nothing is stopping them from getting surgeries, hiring a personal trainer, adopting a better diet, and getting skincare treatments. They're paid more than their female counterparts, and Korean actors do it, so they have no excuse.
>>2352246I couldn't give you a direct answer, but I hate how "normalized" it feels. I remember my first drawing professor in college was a huge narc dude who would go on rambles and try to neg the girls he felt were vulnerable enough to yield to him. He had that douchey bare-minimum look where guys try to make themselves look kept up but their own egos fill in the blanks, so they fall short and it looks like a half-done effort presented in slathered on-hair gel.
>>2352250NTA but I'd imagine the number of made-up/filtered men there are greater, plus tips on male beauty routines. So you're not getting hit with normalized uglies like we would on western apps.
No. 2353431
>>2353415Anon wish you the best of luck. Could relate to everything in your post sadly
come visit us in the DRTW threads on g and all I have to say is I don’t want a guy in this hobby at all anymore after being exposed to geek men degeneracy. I’m looking for a dumb jock that doesn’t know what anime is now.
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>>2352218the power of words, making the descriptor boy-frog seem like a poetic compliment for this hulking ogre. and when people were describing stretchmarks as "tiger stripes", everyone said it was corny. reminds of picrel, how easy it is to make someone sound attractive. like calling Neil Gaiman's bird nest "floppy-haired".
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>>2352884>>2353030>>2353258even many moids have realized that a large majority of dwarf/anti-elf posts are just cope for fat, short and ugly men
No. 2353574
>>2352999because unwanted undesirable scrotes cope through the existence of "feminine" men, a scrote will keep living on so long as he has something to punch down on, be it women or feminine men, a scrote doesn't have to feel bad about his shit posture and shit shoulders if there's a feminine man with even narrower shoulders than he can feel he can "dominate", he doesn't have to anhero because of his 2 inch prick if there's a moid with an even tinier dick. Scrotes' fetishes will always trump their actual sexuality and in this case, their desperation to be the dominant awesome chad takes over and makes them coom to these feminized male characters, and that it's the "domination" that makes it
not really gay.
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>>2353574reminded me of vaush, he's obsessed with 'femboy' porn and raping young boys and probably sees himself as a 'bear' even though he is a short, fat, ugly man who anyone could beat up.
No. 2353613
>>2353114i just watched it on YT, my god, it's all so insufferable, mocking Bruce Lee's accent and voice during fights, Brad Pitt character "cool guy" scoffing at Bruce Lee's monologue, then doing the god awful "smirk", and then trying to look like a cool tough guy trying to be nice to someone he could
totally beat up when confronted, and then the fight only ending when someone interferes.
No. 2353618
>>2353598One of the things I hear from moids when it comes to the sexual objectification of females in media is that it's okay because women are doing it too and want to see it as well. Supposedly this is because females are 'naturally' more bisexual than men. They will also claim that bisexuality in males doesn't really exist. They'll point to that one study as evidence.
Of course a lot of women will turn themselves into female chauvinist pigs for male approval. The pickme pandemic will always exist as long as we're gatekept from power. And it's true some of us will turn to bisexuality/lesbianism because moids are just so unattractive in general, but idk anymore. At the rate we see moids degenerate into tranny-chasers, and how they groom themselves to be more appealing to other moids (rather than women), I feel like I have to go back and read that study. Something isn't lining up.
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This shit is hilarious yet it gives me hope. I wish this sentiment goes mainstream, all moids should aim to look their best
No. 2353691
>>2352047Why dont we spread this urgently far and wide to other femininists? Everytime i try in 2x or some other on reddit. etc (where its BADLY NEEDED) You get some agreeing and some baffoons saying "some ugly men have great qualities" When the hell do you ever seeing that grace afforded to women though? I mean are you seriously that deluded? How do you still think this way? The difference in treatment women>man and man>woman is off the charts BAD. How are other feminists not bolted awake by how shittily we're treated alone though? To see men only reserve nasty scraps for us? They still want to look for good though. Even ugly men will expect a 7 or 8 despite looking horrific. I should have sympathy why? With the way men casually treat women with such nastiness, so easily? I'd really like to understand. Someone please englighten me.
How can we start spready this far and wide?
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>>2353114>Sharon's type>shortlol
from this to poolanski smh. lowering(literally) her standards killed her.
No. 2353711
>>2353654Makes sense. I don't think any sane woman would describe it as 'reeing' when others rightfully point out that a 17 yr old 'falling' for a much older and deceptive moid is grooming.
If anything, pointing out these imbalances might at least enforce some standards amongst women as a whole. I don't really care if a handful of women are actually attracted to 'unconventional' men, the same is not allowed in reverse and women are pressured in every way to be accepting or at the very least tolerant of the flaws of men. In general, women
don't actually want to be with men who look like Diego, but if you say you don't on account of looks, you're shallow, even if moids can freely reject women for whatever reason they want without judgment.
>>2353637Love to see it kek. Remember when incels threaten they'll just import Asian girls to give Western women a run for their money? It will never change the evil shit moids do like sex tourism, but it's funny to see the shocking revelation that at least beauty standards in Asia apply to both men and women. I hope this does actually level the playing field even a little bit, but I think these are jokes sadly. Still, I would like to think women are at least realizing that they don't have to settle.
>>2353691In all sincerity, feminism doesn't mean much anymore to the people who supposedly ascribe to it. Radical feminists are the closest to actual feminism, while your average 'feminist' just identifies as one because it's vogue for the time being. A 'feminist' woman is really just a normie woman.
The best thing you can do, and this goes for any woman regardless of ideology, is normalize the idea that you are allowed to discriminate based on attraction. This works best with women close to you in real life, like family and friends, and while it might be uncouth, even acquaintances might be influenced if they hear other women being so frank. A lot of women are afraid to voice their actual opinions because they don't want to be socially ostracized, but if they see other women doing it they'll be less afraid of how their honesty will be received. They just have to know it's acceptable that you and every woman, are in fact capable of engaging in your sexuality as a subject, and it's not your duty to sexually appease males, especially ones you're not attracted to. If they call themselves feminist, they're probably at least somewhat liberal, and the idea that you don't have to pretend you're sexually attracted to something you're not will be easier for them to accept. A lot of it is just being open and honest with other women, so they too can be open and honest with themselves.
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>>2353065I can't believe we were robbed of beautiful elven bois
No. 2353723
>>2353618Male "sexuality", specifically the way coping sexologists, lesbians, faghags and other spiritual fujos envision it, isn't real. It's transparently a product of conditioning, as corroborated by the fact that paraphilias are predominantly found in men. Most male wholesome hekin gay animals are simply engaging in mounting for dominance. It's amusing but watching the "men will fuck anything" crowd abloobloo the moment you infer that males are not capable of an ironclad unquestionable biological "sexual orientation" the way normies envision it. Much fanfic cope is then employed to explain all male sexual behavior that doesn't align with muh unshakeable innate male sexuality - that gay who fucks women is only using women or self harming because of h-homophobia, his heart is really with penis! And that burly macho man who has brosex is just looking for physical relief, he's not really gay! Actually wait, no, he's really gay but doesn't identify as such because homopopia! You hate lesbians because women are suddenly exactly the same as men in sexuality of all things! But also objective sexual behavior is the absolute measure of sexuality in women! Etc etc etc. The more simple, elegant conclusion here evades them, because both sides have emotional investment in the idea of some kind of male "permanence".
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>>2353704Polanski was already older than her at the time of her death by a decade. His ratface next to hers is so jarring. Polanski is 5' 3", so this was staged like to hide his height kek. All of their professional photoshoots have him posed over her in this Farquaadian style.
The most fucked up thing I remember after his child rape scandal were people using his wife's death as excuse for his actions. "He was just coping with the loss of his wife and made a mistake! He was in a dark place! :'("
No. 2353738
>>2353729Males require a grandiose false self in which they're not driven by their base urges, and can't be defined by an outside observer in a way they don't like. The standard "I am DEFINITELY who I say I am/what I think I am" male cope (found in copious amounts in trannies btw).
Women obviously find the notion of pair bonding with a stochastic, unstable, malleable coom-entity horrifying. They would sooner choose "stably and predictably a degenerate coomer" over "pure angel and a great father POOF suddenly gay furry amputation pedo because of discord coomditioning". People in general don't like this kind of terrifying, indifferent randomness. Same reason religiosity exists.
No. 2353743
>>2352383Even when women don't have any of those things they still age better than men on average. My diet isn't that good (still skinny though), I only work out here and there and I have no real skin routine. However, I still look younger than my brother who already has crows feet and other aging signs when I'm older than he is, and he's already going fully bald. I also genuinely look younger compared to every single male around my age range or younger.
>>2352391He would look slightly younger if he shaved the disgusting beard and actually got better hair.
No. 2353747
>>2353743I'm surprised that the notion of innate rate of aging being lower in women is so offensive to anons in this thread of all places. There's a very clear insistence on muh lifestyle/muh letting himself go being the only factor in male aesthetic decline. He didn't let himself go, his cell cycle did.
Unless by "taking care of himself" they mean datasanib+quercetin, rapamycin and CR vegan diet, which would give me a hearty kek.
No. 2353751
>>2353723This makes the most sense, but why is everyone so obsessed with this idea that males are wholly oriented one way or the other? I can understand why lesbians would fear their homosexuality getting caught in the crossfire of evaluating male homosexuality. But what about moids? Are they afraid they could become gay? I guess it makes sense because they wouldn't want to be seen as the bottom bitch if they are mostly straight. There's also the phenomenon whenever a bisexual scrote does something terrible, moids are quick to blame it on his homosexuality. I remember honestly thinking that Jimmy Savile was a boylove sicko because I only ever heard about him raping little boys, and I was surprised to find out most of his
victims were actually little girls. Very interesting moids fail to mention that fact. It actually disgusts me that only a fraction of his
victims were males, and the majority of them were females and yet the main thing I hear from scrote mouths is that he was a faggot. Goes to show which
victims they care about, if they even see victimizing female children as bad. I guess I kind of answered my own question.
No. 2353752
>>2353744I'm already seeing the pivot to
>Akcshyaly I was never gay, I was just molested and groomed by porn and fatherless! Now that I found JESUS I'm back to being straight again, I mean, being the straight I always was! Also roman towelboys aren't gay! Da joos made me!With coping traddie Vancefags spearheading the cope. No, you were never straight. You were never gay either. You're just a meat coom-automaton driven entirely by stimuli exposure and availability, nothing more. No more "-sexual" than a beetle fucking a bottlecap is a "bottlesexual". No straight men in prison.
No. 2353756
>>2353751>why do they larpOne of the first primordial male traumas is the realization that they're not in control and never will be, and this is what they spend the rest of their lives coping with. Puberty is a big one.
Even UMP is (transparently and self admittedly) moids trying to get women to be attracted to them on the basis of what moids think about themselves/what's reasonably attainable to them. A flailing attempt at self-determination.
No moid is receptive to the idea that he could be psyopped into literally any sex and enjoying it depending on his horniness and mate availability, and yes the realization that he's one dry spell from letting a guy suck him off through a gloryhole is a big part of it. If you want to go further down this rabbit hole (kek), Google "boner when pooping" and how it makes them feel.
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Let’s bet on how long it will take for my account to get suspended on Reddit after posting this
No. 2353772
>>2353757I feel like even if men didn't already age like shit naturally (they do), they still fuck themselves over even more by having this culture where trying at all to preserve any youthfulness is seen as exclusively a female or gay thing. They're already fucked biologically speaking and then make this even worse because of their retarded social standards.
>>2353759Kurtis conner
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>>2353767And it's unironically a well founded fear. Every male knows what prostate stimulation feels like even if he never touched cock. To further the horror, moms of infant boys apparently describe seeing "poop boners" during potty training.
I'm surprised fujos are sleeping on this, you literally don't need anything besides poop boners to credibly explain why a canon straight character is suddenly taking it up the chute.Curiously, males appear to have zero fear of this when assuming the bottom position isn't associated with loss of social status in the eyes of potential female mates (the Ancient Greece meme pooners love so much). Male "sexuality" is a social status meme, nothing more.
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>>2352173If the mom character got fat, moids will immediately call it a downgrade like picrel with Deku's mom. Plus maybe the fat guy would've gotten less attention if his wife turned out fat like him since moids probably self-insert as the fat bastard that somehow still have a pretty youthful wife. Moids are fucking cowards to age up female characters or making her fat since they can't stand seeing an unfuckable woman. They would call it woke if the genders where reversed.
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>>2353810To be far, I don't know why they chose to do this and keep Bakugo's mom (Mitsuki) super hot and normal looking.
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The trouble with this thread is, we aren’t allowed to lust after a man that’s a bit rough around the edges without anons screaming at us. It’s “you’re coping!!! All women want is pretty boys!!! Here’s a pic of an airbrushed kpop singer that looks like he gets passed around like a blunt by executives on a nightly basis!!!! If you don’t want to fuck him you’re brainwashed!!!” If I said I wanted to fuck a young Marco Pierre White I’d get “he’s ugly!!!! He’s aged like shit!!!” He makes my pussy wet so I want him. That’s all that matters. I don’t want to fuck a twink with gayface who looks like he cries after sex. I want a brute. I want someone who’s going to pick me up and throw me around and who won’t be phased if I slap him hard in the face every now and then. That’s marco. I wish I could have hot, nasty, sweaty, dirty filthy animalistic sex with a 25-35 year old marco.(do not defend ugly men itt)
No. 2353949
>>2353936how did you get from my comment
>>2353930 i am full of hopium?
No. 2353995
>>2353981Character is just as important. Shitty opportunistic males with no ethics or ability to care about people, are just as bad. Males who are like this are the absolute WORST though because they end up becoming powerful parasitic men who screw everyone else over for money.
Tbh its the entitlement to getting away with being ugly that disgusts me most. I dont actually care if a guy is impossibly ugly, its the entitlement to get away with it. To putting old ugly men up next to pretty 20 yo women that pisses me off. Masculinity by itself is just gross af in that department..
No. 2354002
>>2353975Would be really hot if the executives are all female. New fantasy unlocked.
>>2353988Or even better, cries during it.
No. 2354003
>>2353992The ugly male psyop isn’t just about looks. Society and the media are also pushing us to like males that are just total fucking dweebs.
Anyways I wish I could hog tie pedro pascal and throw him off a bridge into a murky lake.
No. 2354020
>>2353948That's not rough around the edges, that week old roadkill.
>I want an ugly bastard that tosses me around like a dainty blushing maiden>picrel is walled and a manletThe problem with you is that your view of past prime, unattractive , short men as "strong" and virile is biologically inaccurate, hence why your sexuality revolves around narrative and weird, feminine competition with "gay" young men in their prime, not objective qualities. Nobody here doubts for a second that women coom to things they convinced themselves of, or simply don't want their man to mog them.
There's nothing wrong if this is what makes your pussy wet, but what you have is pretty evidently an AGP-like fetish stemming from self-sexualization, an inauthentic, altered, socially shaped sexuality.
No. 2354066
>>2353995Males don't have "character". They're only as good as their options, certain resentments, etc. Its biologically impossible for a sexual endoparasite to feel about you the way you feel about them, or whatever it is you think is "good character" in a moid. Best you can get is "doesn't have the means to screw you over".
The hypothetical situation in which a fuggo will be nicer than a hot guy doesn't exist, and millions of women get burned every day thinking it does. At best you're going to get a delayed onset opportunistic faggot, when your vigilance is sufficiently dulled or your options are sufficiently reduced (e.g. when you get pregnant).
No. 2354086
>>2354028Because she's selling it to herself. Most AGP biological women who "get off" to ugly orc rape basically have to write their personal bodice-ripper to fluff themselves up first. We have all done this, myself included, for reasons we hide from our own consciousness awareness. This is why women wrote fanfics and overhoomanize their coom, too. Also why sexologists think all women are bisexual, female sexuality is based on """"vibes"""" and men can be attractive via status and confidence.
There must always be an odd language-based narrative because the normal reptile brain response of hot young guy=wet pussy isn't available due to being methodically ablated since birth. The actual "female socialization", if you will.
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>>2351466Women are attracted to Vega; men are attracted to Zangief.
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Men are the biggest dumbasses this is why I don't care about the loneliness epidemic they go out of their way to make themselves unattractive but still expect women to want to be with them redpill was their biggest mistake may they suffer the consequences.
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>>2354531Samefag here but I came across this and it indicative of the UMP. This fucking "everyone deserves love" when there is a fear women will stop marrying/fucking men (its already happening, big time) when men have been making women jump though hoops on their appearance and personality just makes my blood boil. As shown in previous threads the uglier the moid the more shitty his personality is and no, they dont deserve anything let alone women for merely existing.
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>>2353043posting again because he's repulsive
No. 2354730
>>2353415Thank you for the effortposts based nonna
it's been a while since I got a reply as long as my post kek>I would also love to run a game for other nonnas here that would be interested, if I figured out the best way to exclude moids from potentially infiltratingThat'd be great, what I mentioned before was the first time I truly gave TTRPG a shot, so I'd love to play with a female-only group because I think that's the only way I'd be able to play comfortably and get more familiar with RPG.
There have been
Discord servers here that were relatively moid-free and the few males that managed to join were quickly discovered and kicked out. They used voice verification. I don't give a fuck if I have to verify by voice, especially if we're going to use voice chat to play anyway.
>I have witnessed similar situations as well, where women in this subculture usually have very damaged self-esteem because of their general lack of interest in typical 'girly' things (like makeup and fashion).I stopped joining that club's D&D sessions because some of the moids were too annoying during the game and when it was time to go home (with me and my sister being the only women left) the main organizers,
every time without fail, would start making jokes about cartoon porn. I'm absolutely disgusted at my sister's choice of social circle, but there's nothing I can do except hope that my manhate and relative self-confidence rub off on her and that she learns to stop being a pickme on her own without being traumatized by moids' most awful traits (which is something I had to go through to snap out of it, but some women aren't so lucky and keep being deluded despite witnessing these horrors). If only she met other nerdy girls like herself so she didn't have to hang out with a bunch of perverted scrotes who engage in casual misogyny, both online and in real life. Thankfully most women naturally wise up with age. But still, in a way, I feel guilty of introducing her to such niche, male-dominated hobbies, I feel like I ruined her life.
>we just never had a place to indulge it. Apparently we still don't, but we can make it.That's so true, but with tranny shit being so prevalent in geek spaces, I think it'd be a bit hard to do that right now without being cancelled for troonphobia (or the community imploding after trannies take over and destroy it from within) outside of "
TERF" places like LC.
>A lot of my skills in art (and specifically 3d) come from my desire to see beautiful moids come to life. God bless the women who dedicate themselves to modding vidya, that's where I started too.I hope to become a decent enough modder that I can fix the shit in your pic by inverting it.
>You can't rely on moids to honestly portray an accurate representation of what females want to see without injecting their own self-interests into it.That's what I've been thinking lately about female fans of mixed gachashit. Some of them are starting to wake up to the fact that the scrote devs will never give female playerbases more than crumbs, and are rightfully angry. But they could also realize that it's up to ourselves to be the change we want to see, we can't just expect males to pander to us in any meaningful way. Usually male devs start a franchise with some decent husbandobait, and once they've secured their female side demographic, they uglify the males or introduce more and more moid coombait down the line. Sometimes, on extremely rare occasions, men can make wonderful pieces of media for women, but this is just an exception that's becoming rarer as porn addiction and incelism become more common. We could become professional artists, programmers, musicians, even indie movie directors and change things for the better, most women are too comfortable with being constantly treated like an afterthought as a demographic and not doing anything about it. If more women realized they don't have to settle for moidslop and that they can take matters into their own hands, we'd probably have more cute male actors and more depictions of beautiful men in media (and hopefully moids would start trying to pander to us for real when they realize that it, too, can be profitable).
>I know I use to feel guilty about it, but the only way to tip the scales is to be as overt with it as they are in literally everything. Above anything else, we shouldn't have to self-police our own fucking fantasies, especially if we're talented in creation.Preach. I will always advocate for women being unashamedly self-indulgent.
>I think I will end up doing both handsome villains and ugly villains, that's where their range of representation can be, much like how they portray female characters kek.Yeah that seems like a good idea and it's a more accurate reversal. I wish you luck!
>>2353399There's a female gaze media thread on /m/ for this exact kind of recommendation, and there's also the movie thread where more knowledgeable nonnas might answer.
No. 2354760
>>2354666It's fair if women have to settle down with moids they aren't attracted to in forced loyalty, completely neglecting their own sexual desires. It's also fair that they will take on the majority of labor in their relationship together.
His use of the term 'females' in the same sentence as 'men' is quite telling. You, female, do not deprive me, a man, of love (aka sexual and domestic services).
This is also just more proof that moids are incapable of love in the same sense women mean it. To them, love is just a life of servitude to them, that they deserve for simply existing and women just have to appreciate this grim fate of ours because it's supposedly fair. We naturally ask how the fuck could we love someone as romantic partners if we aren't even attracted to them, but that doesn't matter to moids. This is fair in their mind because all they care about is taking advantage of others, and will likely trade up if the opportunity ever presents itself.
I don't have trouble convincing my friends of the harsh reality of male behavior, but the hardest truth for them to accept is that romantic love as we know it has always been a ruse moids fool us with. You sound like a resentful psychopath if you bring this up, but I feel like they show themselves all the time, and yet it's so hard to warn other women.
Worst of all, women think ugly moids will love them more than a moid they're actually attracted to, but we know that the ugly moids think they deserve a mommy bangmaid because it's 'fair'. They straight up say like in
>>2354666. All the while moids don't really provide anything to our lives, except some vague notion of feeling less alone. How do I talk about this with my friends in a way that doesn't sound insane?
No. 2354771
>>2354719I don't care if the haters try to say their relationship was fake, I
know that's not the case.
No. 2354824
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which one is supposed to be attractive
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No. 2355415
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horrors i have to witness when looking for reference of average looking people
No. 2355518
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moids when you don't like roidpigs:
(also post male butthurt)
No. 2355561
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>>2352884Dwarfposting is the male equivalent of women making characters fat,ugly and trannies. Its just a cope by ugly insecure moids.
No. 2355629
>>2353948Just because anons want to pretend they have high standards here doesn't mean they're fucking male models kek. I thought everyone knew this? You do you anon.
Not attacking you nonnas btw, I think everyone deserves to hold out for someone they deem worthy. But tbqh your Nigels are never hot honestly and there's nothing wrong with that either.
No. 2355659
>>2355624She's mad that we're not pretending he's attractive. Selling yourself on a fuggo takes collective effort, you can't afford anyone dissenting.
You see, the most cucked thing about women who like ugly bastards is the fact that they're unable not to push their perversion into the mainstream. Plenty of moids like BBWs, amputees and retards, and they're entirely content keeping them as a shameful fetish while outwardly elevating conventionally attractive women to keep the pressure on them. Women do not understand this concept, they just can't enjoy their orc rape shamefully and in private, they have to pretend the orc is actually a prince.
No. 2355667
>>2355659This is a lot of pornspeak.
>women who like ugly bastards is the fact that they're unable not to push their perversion into the mainstreamThe majority of men being ugly is already mainstream and widely accepted. Go outside and touch grass.
No. 2355693
>>2355682>no moid ever gets angry when women get called uglyWrong, but it's for a selfish motive. They do get quite angry whenever their flavor of beauty is criticized or mocked because it's an attack on their ego and interests.
>genuinely convinced their ugly men are actually attractive and try to gaslight normal women into finding them attractive by putting down more objectively attractive menThis is human nature in general. Everyone wants to believe they are dating the best of the best for whatever made up reasons and everyone else is a pleb. Not to spoil things, but plenty of attractive people have been looking down on uglies and whom they find appealing for a very long time. I do not believe for a second that pickmes who like ugly men are a majority of this phenomenon.
Men have, however, always promoted other ugly men. It benefits men the most to saturate this narrative because they all stand to gain the best women. Pickmes are just part of the psyop but not the motivators nor the reason for why matters are how they are.
No. 2355717
>>2355704Because pickmes are products and
victims of mainstream narrative pushed by men. If men started bullying each other tomorrow and suddenly the narrative was all against ugly men, then the pickmes would follow suit because of the advantages. It makes sense. Women are not the problem no matter what degen trash they want to individually promote.
No. 2355766
>>2355753Men aren't ever gonna reject relationships and sex. That's why women being held to high standards while men get to be ugly fucks is a psyop on their part. Humans were not hairless for most of history. Nor did they naturally have beachball tits that defy gravity nor baboon implant asses. Or perfect skin and hair.
It. is. a. psyop. to. benefit. men.
Do you know what thread you're in?
No. 2355769
>>2355766part of the psyop is women shaving to look like eternal little girls while men are allowed to be hairy apes. You are using the ''muh evolution'' when everyone knows men back then men used to fuck and impregnate underage girls.
>>2355767why do you think men like women to shave? think, idiot. They want you to look like a little girl. They are all pedophiles.
No. 2355779
>>2355776Yes it does are you being obtuse?
Thought experiment:
Would men choose unshaved pubic hair on a woman or unshaved facial hair on a woman? Granted they were forced to pick while having preference for neither.
>>2355778Body hair is different than hair on your scalp. I'm disappointed that nonnas here might actually be this retarded. Big yikes.
No. 2355795
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>>2355792Is the Nigel in the room with us now?
No. 2355846
>>2355830Maybe you're a pedophile trying to point fingers to take the
sus off you because you're making misrepresented arguments about the reasons why men predate on little girls and trying to blame adult women who shave for it. Weirdo.
(infight bait) No. 2355967
>>2355875So answer the thought experiment you dishonest little tart:
Would a man pick:
>a woman with pubic hairor
>a woman with facial hair No. 2356000
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>>2355779Here's a thought experiment: why is shaving only enforced in women now? Why is hairlessness associated with 'femininity'? Why is
youth associated with 'femininity'? You could argue that this is because women overall have less hair, or that women age better, but when it comes down to it, the reason these things are associated with femininity is because femininity is just whatever moids consider the most fuckable. If this wasn't the case, then why are other non-physical traits like submissiveness and purity also associated with 'femininity'? And if these traits associated with supposed femininity coincide more with teenagers or even younger more than they do actual grown woman, what does that tell you about what moids consider fuckable?
You answered your own question, granted they would pick neither of they had a choice. If they had a preference, and they do, it's to ensure that females look as young as possible while still being fuckable to them. You expect me to say they'll pick pubic hair, and you're right because yes, even twelve year olds can grow pubic hair sometimes. They're still fuckable because they still have all the other qualities of a child. It's the same reason moids still prefer large breasts, teenagers can also have large breasts, but they're still teenagers. A better question would be would they rather fuck a 12 year old or 45 yr old, both shaved hairless. Neither of them are in their sexual prime, but guess what most men would rather go for given a choice. And you'll have to actually guess because they don't want to be on a list, but they have so many masks off moments. This entire thread is an example of it, old moids pursuing young women and normalizing this pattern of behavior. They would go for younger if it was legal. You can even see this in the femboys that moids have started jacking it to, it's not that they're males who are more womanly, they're more
girly.The only reason shaving wasn't commonplace historically was because it was difficult to do. Men accepted it because they didn't know it was an option, and being with
any female is better than being alone, but they have tipped the scales in their favor and will see to it that their preferences are recognized in everything but name. In the past, they just marry as young as they could manage instead, and parents would just warn their daughters the best they could to avoid it if they were decent, or allow it as the norm. When shaving was first advertised, body hair on women was advertised as not a matter of sexual dimorphism like you claim now, but on 'cleanliness' or 'purity' or 'hygiene'. Yet at the same time, moids did not shave their bodies, even though shaving your face as moid was fashionable back then. If it really was a matter of hygiene, then why were only women advertised to in this way? Because a woman is not to age, because 'youth' is what makes a female fuckable to them. Part of the ugly man psyop is that moids are allowed to age, women aren't. And if you don't think it's because of pedophilia, cp was legal in the United States until 1978. Same for the United Kingdom. In non-western countries where it is illegal, it's usually only because all pornography is considered obscene and immoral. Even now 'barely legal' or 'teen' is an extremely popular category. This isn't even mentioning the AoC and how moids protest any form of raising it. In countries where they don't enforce an AoC, what age do you think is ideal for marriageability? You can look at places in the Middle East for a hint.
If you really believe moids prefer less hair because it's more 'feminine', and not because it's an attempt to look more juvenile, I'm sure you apply your eyeliner sharp enough to slay the patriarchy too. If you want to shave, no one is stopping you, but it's stupid to think it isn't for any other reason than aping youthfulness aka looking more prepubescent. Even if a moid doesn't consciously know their attractions are pedophilic, it still is. Grown women usually have body hair, and at the very least pubic hair unless they have a condition like alopecia (and they have no hair at all).
Also kill yourself for 'big yikes'.
No. 2356010
>>2355997>w-women only ever get like 2 lip hairs!!!!Dishonesty again. But the same goes for very thick body hair too.
Another thought experiment:
Why do men who shave their arms and legs mocked by other men for being feminine? I await your tardrage and pedofoil.
(infight bait) No. 2356018
>>2356010i am very hairy and i still dont grow moustaches and full on beards TOPKEK the little hair i grow is barely visible and so is for literally other woman.
>Why do men who shave their arms and legs mocked by other men for being feminine?because it reminds them of younger men and men hate looking youthful because it makes them ''weak'' it all circles back to looking younger. Not more feminine. Whenever men shill poo beards they always complain that men without them look like little boys, not women.
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In other news:
https://www.wideopencountry.com/billy-bob-thornton-was-once-told-he-was-too-ugly-to-be-a-leading-man-by-hollywood-figure/"He bagged Angelina Jolie, so he must be hot!" Beautiful women do all of us a disservice by entertaining ugly men. Keep in mind Billy Bob Thornton is almost 70, and his character's ex-wife is played by 48 yr old model actress Ali Larter and his possible side piece is played by a 31 yr old actress. Vomit.
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I don't shave my legs… nobody even notices or cares. I don't get this argument. Ever since I stopped shaving my legs I don't get as cold in the winter or as hot in the summer, and nobody gives a fuck.
>>2356115This is fucked and akin to self harm to me.
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>>2355415how they drew him
No. 2356627
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>gay men actually prefer extremely masculine looking guys
>feminine gay guys actually struggle to find gay partners and often have to settle down with bimoids and chasers
>feminine guys are also normally popular with women
>somehow faggots still managed to convince straight men that being feminine is gay
>they played 4D chess with straightoids to convince them that gay ideals of beauty(roidpig, hairy, military haircuts) are actually super masculine and alpha chad
>meanwhile most gay porn features manly buff men with military haircuts getting their intestines ravaged by cock
>straightoids actually go to the gym to turn themselves into roidpigs sluts for gay men without even knowing it, while constantly berating straight men who want to strive for straight beauty standards that women find attractive
How do we break straight men free from gay moid's mind control? faggot's sissy hypno game is strong with them and as much as it makes me laugh to go to the gym and see all the straight moids lifting 500KG weights to be stronk like koku when in reality all they are achieving is looking like barafaggots i also want to get a qte gymrat bf that doesnt look like a smelly homosexual
No. 2356814
>>2356000A lot of scrotes are pedos, but even in the 1700s and 1800s most marriages were close in age and in their early 20s. A politician having a really young wife would cause a big controversy.
https://www.mimimatthews.com/2016/04/10/the-perils-of-may-december-marriages/I was trying to find the origin of your pic and found this site that talks about a book from the 1840s where the authors says a young woman with a old man is unnatural and she will either kill him or cuck him for a younger man. Kek.
No. 2357004
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>>2353030>He was an obese redditor >He hated beautiful men with a passion. They weren't 'manly' enoughI really wonder how moids like this come up with their ideas about the world? my dad was in my country's special forces and he’s shown me pictures of his training and his unit members, along with soldiers from other countries they worked with, they were all young and attractive guys in their early 20s—most looked more like male models than 'dwarfs' or even modern action stars. also, my brother-in-law is a part-time firefighter, and guess what? most of his unit is also made up of young, fit guys. Some of them are a bit too macho and buff for my taste, but most are lean and good-looking, would this obese redditor really think that special forces and firefighters aren’t manly in his opinion?"
No. 2357561
>>2357404It's not ai. I've seen that photo reposted long before ai was a thing.
>>2357320I won't be surprised if the last 2 world wars were a conspiracy to eliminate all the genetically fit handsome males leaving us with only defective balding uglies to reproduce with. Patriarchal elites are very invested in making sure even the most repulsive genetic dead-end male gets a wife.
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I was about to watch Korean convenience store videos when this thing popped up on my recommend somehow. Can you imagine society allowing a woman to look as unfortunate and punchable as this man? It pisses me off sm, men are so bold that even when they look like this they dare putting their faces on their thumbnails as if anybody wants to see that shit
No. 2358004
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>>2357987He's only 23 btw
No. 2358307
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>>2357987I feel the same about this guy. No idea who he is but his face is all over youtube and people just tolerate it. Also looks like the typical britbong moid teenager whos got an asbo.
No. 2358372
>>2358004Got that sex pest look to him
>>2358307That vacant stare is giving me ALR vibes
No. 2358758
>>2358738>nobody talks about men ballooning into cave trolls as soon as they hit 30. Seems kind of obvious to me, but it's because patriarchal society has coerced women into a position where we, until maybe about 50 years ago, couldn't afford to choose a mate based on physical attraction alone. Marriage was, and in a lot of places still is, a "social elevator" for women. Marrying a hot young thang with no status, savings or prospects in his 20s is stupid when you would never be able to earn more than him or be of higher status than him without marrying a different scrote who has all of those things.
All of this to say that this coercive sexuality has come down to our time as tradition, where women
think that a man having social power is inherently sexy, when in fact, it just looks like an outdated fucked up evolutionary survival tactic that we, as a sex, dont need to hold up anymore. Which is why no one complains about walled butt ugly men in their young 30s - men and women think social power is sexy so they don't have to care about looks.
There's an argument to be made that men have literally made other men uglier by generations of men having children with women who never wanted their grotesque asses in the first place. They're passing on the ugly genes.
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Alas, they admit it.
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>>2357987>>2358004And of course he has a cute gf that's way out of his league, fuck outta here. I wish women would stop validating ugly men with sex and love
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>>2359479Is this why they seethe so much over men dating ugly, slutty or mentally ill (in a way that isn't fun) women? Because they parasocially self-insert into each other's relationships like gay retards?
No. 2360459
>>2360359it is white men fetishizing because they prefer the thinnest race that looks the youngest, plus economic and class factors. upper class east asians and whites are most likely to be in close proximity growing up in private schools, wealthy suburbs, and in prestigious universities at stem majors. both groups are raised to min max their careers and relationships, it would be considered a huge blunder by the family to become a female engineer and date like a latino plumber, even with healthy hot genes, it would be a huge loss in potential wealth, the qualitative aspect of healthier offspring is never accounted for. he would get roasted and the family would never respect him, asian families don't even respect jews that much because they're so ugly, inbred and carry immune disorders like ibs. there's never a safe career to date for love or looks even amongst white collar professions because the world is always changing, technology degrades everyone's skills, and inflation is constantly eroding your salary; there's never enough money to ensure everyone is cared for.
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NNNNNOOOOOOO STOP IT NOOOOOOOOO
No. 2361860
>>2360794I’m normal and have no clue what this means. Can someone explain this to me?
>>2360829Jewish nepotism is something else
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>>2360829A lot of people have been saying that Zayn Malik should do the role. If he does I hope they get rid of his stupid haircut and piercings
No. 2361931
>>2361899NTA but that trend was pure compliment-fishing cringe.
Some people are so close to understanding that visual appeal is not the sole and paramount virtue for women, but they're stuck in the "actually, it's okay because your natural dorky / horsey / wrinkly smile is prettier!" gap.
No. 2361969
>>2360359Not asian but I've seen way more men fetishizing asian women than the opposite. There's many more loser anime nerd male fans than there are cute asian women wanting white guys even if the latter group also exists, by a longshot. A lot of those guys I just see whining daily about how they wish they had a jp gf and she's nowhere to be found so if it was really that easy and asian women wanted them more than they want them and they outweighed the number of men who want asian women, they wouldn't be single.
>>2360829They can't be serious with this one. Kek'd at the bottom reply though.
No. 2362001
>>2361969IDK the exact proportion of asian fetishist men vs white fetishist women, but our community is absolutely plagued by white fetishists. this also applies to the men, the difference is of course the asian men don't get to choose as often. the white loser anime nerds are maybe just a bridge to far for some women but I think a lot of asian women do lower their overall standards for white guys.
POC loser with no job is unacceptable. White loser with no job is slightly more acceptable. And so forth. Embarrassingly large amounts of them end up dating white racists who subsequently creep on their hapa daughters and traumatize their hapa sons. Like the guy who drugged and tried to sexually assault his own daughter's friends at a sleepover. He 100% exhibited some red flags that his wife completely ignored. As another example, I remember years ago reading an article some woman wrote about how she went on a date with a guy who asked if her vagina smelled like orange chicken… and then still slept with him! no idea why she would be retarded enough to admit this, let alone under her actual name in a published article. It is a real problem. In every single asian forum and online community including even here, there'll be some dumbass whining about how their shitty white boyfriends treat them like shit and yet they continue to stay and ask for advice on how they can maybe lecture them into being less racist. There's asian girls on tiktok bragging about how their white boyfriend is totally woke and not racist for stuff as basic as being willing to eat a fucking spring roll.
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This is the dude who dated Kate Moss kek
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Anyone else have this experience as a child?
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>>2362384Why pecs specifically? Are they trying to compete with our boobs?
No. 2362545
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I need to move away… anywhere (except probably Britain) is better than here, just look at this tragedy
No. 2362548
>>2362545What's the tragedy, exactly?
>ugly moidsYeah, but how does your video relate to moving away?
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>>2360829The only live action role he is suited for is Quasimodo. Kek we have Rachel Zegler being called too ugly to play Snow White but the fact that this creature is even being considered says it all.
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>>2354535we were discussing this in the fandom thread, but those posts are mostly made by virgins whose understanding of relationships and sex is influenced by bl, fan-fics and rp with other similar people on discord, they don't understand things like that, all men, even the ultra-masculine ones, moan during sex, and for good sex, you have to grab them them as well
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>>2352999>>2353020>Guarantee you the moids who sexualize Link also like that he's a child in most of the games. Meanwhile women who enjoy Link had a childhood crush on him but end up enjoying Twilight Princess Link in adulthood.It's weird that they don't realize they come across as complete degenerates when they refer to women as "femboys," or that they seem like gay pedophiles and it's always the fattest, ugliest and weakest moids like vaush, who have these fetishes.
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every documentary i watch about this faggot tries to convince me he's attractive. Where? he looks like a fat little boy. Moids will have blue eyes and blond hair and thats enough for the world to cocksuck them into oblivion.
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On today’s episode of copium:
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repost from the fandom thread but i believe troons are some of the biggest pushers of the ugly male psy-op, but they will disguise it through "feminism" or "misandry", but it's just incel jealously
No. 2363317
>>2362992KEK
The sad thing is this actually works, women get off to being “the hot one” or things being “balanced” but it’s only because they’re insecure, deep down nobody wants an uggo. He’s also implying only uggos and mids want beautiful women which is hilarious.
No. 2363331
>>2362001I just don't think there's ever going to be more demand from women for men than the other way around, men
always want women more and it applies here too. I can see what you mean by losers who aren't as bad as the anime guys being more dateable for those women though, I agree a lot of women still do have very low standards.
>>2362992Most women if anything tend to feel threatened if a guy is beautiful (unfortunately), it doesn't make them feel better because in society your entire value= your beauty if you're female. A woman could look better than her bf and still get dogpiled for being ugly and walled simply because he's slightly above average for a moid or something.
Also, you can tell this is projection because the logic here applies way more for ugly males, they feel more validated and make up for their own lack of any beauty and think they're hot shit just because they got an attractive gf kek. The set amount of beauty for a relationship and the status thing just sounds like classic moid copium too, women who go for you for your 'status' don't love you and wouldn't fuck you if you were broke and somehow you think that's ideal. The ideal couple should be two people with similar levels of attractiveness, not one fugly man and a beautiful woman otherwise you'll end up with ugly kids if you're unlucky. And many pretty women are into pretty boys as well, they just end up settling because men are so ugly.
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>>2362784You know you can look things up before you spout nonsense right? The word "boyfriend" in the romantic context originated in the 1900s, when dating culture became more popular. People typically got married in their early to mid twenties then. Also, before boyfriend and girlfriend were used romantically, these words were used to describe platonic friendship. Boyfriend comes from girlfriend, which has a much longer history of being in use platonically as a word for girls to describe their female friends.
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>>2362992>the man’s status matters much more than looksSays an ugly man KEK
No. 2363695
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women shilling this caveman as hot and his repeatedly self inserting as a love interest just shows how low we've stooped
No. 2363782
File: 1737745491047.mp4 (13.71 MB, 480x854, SCcYpi1.mp4)
moids still seething over luigi
No. 2363975
>>2363782No one cares about if he's white or not, the proof of that is that faggot who tried to assassinate Trump was white and no one was sucking his dick over it (outside of him just failing to actually do it) and how not every white shooter gets the amount of simps Luigi has. The guy in this video could magically change his race and he still wouldn't get women thirsting over him like Luigi simply because he's ugly kek, he's simply crying racism just like troons cry transphobia when women don't want their dick.
>>2363880Kekkk
No. 2363989
>>2363782Kek aren't Italians considered
POC by lefties? That's quite
problematic of him to say uwu.
No. 2364762
>>2362992t. mid fatty
also daily reminder that moids
want you to be a golddigger so you should never give a single fuck when they pretend to hate them
No. 2364892
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So this is the kind of poster that defends ugly moids and hates these threads. TOPKEK. She even uses good ol' argument of ugly men being a more 'mature' taste.
No. 2364966
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>balding in hs
jfc i am glad he decided not to have children
No. 2364970
File: 1737780324284.mp4 (3.02 MB, 720x1280, saveinsta-cam.mp4)
>>2363703here, i have no idea about the vtuber meetup tho
No. 2365007
>>2362393It's an American boomer-early Gen X thing. Older men would always rant about this, though they were usually more hung up about the car than the body. Either way, it was fixated upon features or things they couldn't have, or had one of those but didn't want to put in the effort to get the other (and it was ALWAYS the body).
It was interesting because it gave me insight into how much men project. They would always complain about it while having something expensive sitting in the garage under a protective cover to take out on the weekends. Usually, it's the mark of a late divorce (or worse, widower).
When I was in college, there was an older dude (he looked 55-60 so who knows) in our class who'd whip into his parking space in some vintage Lamborghini. One of those dudes who retired before 60 and wanted to study something creative. He would creep on a few girls when he wasn't whining about the class. Get super DUPER pissy when his tactics didn't work. No one cared about his ugly car either.
I can't tell you enough how embarrassing it is to see that in person.
No. 2365035
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>>2364965Stop being dumb. It's still bad but they are not literal children and this has no bearing on the use of the word
No. 2365075
>>2365070Yes you do have to do that but you also have to have like top tier genetics. Do they just all develop BDD after being nitpicked by industry fags or something?
>>2365072What does that have to do with getting an ugly bf though?
No. 2365078
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>>2365066I don't get it either. Probably insecurity. Like their whole job is appearance based and any minute flaw the whole world calls you hideous. So she goes with an ugly goblin with money and connections in hopes he doesn't leave her (he does).
Best strategy is to be like older Britney Spears and just use young cute guys for sex and then dump them in the trash when you're done.
No. 2365081
>>2365075Projecting the image of a fantasy woman who isn't shallow and is accessible to average/ugly moids.
Though honestly for models and celebrities it's usually a money thing, they can gold dig legitimately rich men. Or for the less rich men, they probably think they're more likely to commit/be faithful. It's the 'normal' beautiful women dating uggos who are generally pickmes.
No. 2365105
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>>2365081>It's the 'normal' beautiful women dating uggos who are generally pickmes.I think that’s the case for Mrs Midwest. She claims to have modeled at one point and also dated a fellow model and then… ended up marrying the human embodiment of a weird looking toe.
No. 2365147
>>2365134100% agree anon and I am considered to be very pretty by people lol
I had low self esteem in high school though so uggos had access to me
But in my early 20s i got even prettier and also get medicated for my mental issues that caused low self esteem and since then I dated models, millionaires and tiktok famous eboy dudes
But a lot of pretty women give in to the ugly male psyop because hot guys are pretty hard to find and a lot of them have tons of options like even if youre hot, they have tons of other hot girls to choose from just because they're so rare. An attractive man gets a lot more benefits than an attractive woman imho. So I understand why women date down, I just can't make myself do that because sex repulses me and feels like assault if its not with someone physically appealing
No. 2365383
>>2365150I've observed that being with a moid who makes less than you may be worse. Moids are extremely insecure and hateful, and that insecurity will outweigh the benefits of being with a woman out of your league who doesn't mind that you're a brokie. 10/10 he'll end up stealing, cheating, and possibly killing her. Same goes for going for uggos cause "he won't cheat! He has a better personality!" A hair
trigger away from being wife killers.
No. 2365400
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Bleak.
No. 2365464
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>>2359793Not all of them thankfully.
>>2365400Reddit pick-mes at it again, why is reddit filled with them?
No. 2365490
>>2364892This whole argument about how once your brain develops you start liking ugly men is so stupid, I'm in my late 20s and it's been the opposite for me. When I was a teenager I didn't really know what I liked and as I grew up I realized I liked pretty men, hated beards, fatties, baldies, and so on. My tastes weren't well formed so I feel like my brain was more susceptible to the ugly man psyop when I was younger and more impressionable.
>>2365434Idk I've seen a lot of normal looking and even pretty women being pick mes for ugly men too unfortunately.
>>2365400They would look better if they shut the fuck up and got a wig or a hair transplant so I don't have to look at their gross bald shiny head.
No. 2365593
>>2365035People, especially women, up to the 50s or 60s supposedly all marrying at only 16 is also a huge psyop. They married if the girl got pregnant but non of this was planned and seen as good. But borderline pedos just love telling you that until just 2 generations ago it would have been sooo normal to have a childbride as an adult moid and they all totally loved each other and stayed together all their life!
One of my grandmas was nearly 40 when she had her first and only child and the other grandma was 23 and I always assumed that she was the norm until my mom told me that it was an absolute accident and they were still considered very young and had no money (that's also opposite to what they love to claim, e.g. everybody back then being able to buy a house at 20).
No. 2365623
>>2365078Brittany gets predated on by gay men trying to gold dig her
>>2365105why would someone do something like that to their future kids?
No. 2365700
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SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD.
No. 2365723
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>>2365700what causes men to bald out so young nowadays
No. 2365864
>>2365861Nooo, he is reacting to the happy couple spending his 22nd birthday alone, bald, and single.
>>2365764What would cause faster sexual maturity and ageing, then? Hormones in the food I guess.
No. 2366220
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>>2363799It was a narrative they tried to splice together
No. 2366611
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Its the third time i fall in love with a fag. Are there really no cute straight men? how to cope with being born moid-brained and wanting cute guys instead of cavement dompigs
No. 2366629
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>>2366627>So you've developed crushes on those guys for looks alone?do you know which thread you are on?
>Also if you want a man that puts in that effort, you have to do the sameall my girlfriends waste thousands to look hot for their moids and they cant even do the effort to shave, what even is the point. At least those gay twinks shave and look cute for their roidpig tops, good luck getting a straightoid to do the same for a woman.
No. 2366913
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>>2366647Honestly I really resent Stacies who date men much uglier than themselves. It only serves to add to overall male entitlement and them believing they deserve a hot gf because some other ugly scrote got one.
Part of Belle Delphine and Hannah Owo's appeal to their moid fans is that they're both gorgeous girls who date fat, mid moids with small dicks.
No. 2366917
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Now that I think about it, all the women who I consider to be most gorgeous in the world, always have the ugliest ever bfs. Never once have seen their partners and thought 'I want a guy like that'. They're always hideous, cheaters, shitty scumbags who abuse them and blackmail them and leak their nudes, etc.
It seems like such a waste of genetics, grooming, beauty, only to shack up with some mid loser with a tiny dick.
Pic rel is one of the 'better ones' but he's still ugly as fuck to me, and also abused, cheated on and manipulated Taylor for years to the point she actually sued him after they broke up.
No. 2366929
>>2362907Paul Bernardo isn't a model, but he was definitely more attractive and charismatic than Dahmer, Buddy, Luigi etc who just come across as weird mid autists.
He's bald now, the karma all evil moids get.
(do not defend ugly men itt) No. 2366941
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>>2365725Speaking of which, it's insane how much 'old disgusting man and young nubile girl' is pushed in media and especially porn. Young guys are getting off to disgusting old coffin dodgers raping traumatized and trafficked teenage girls, thinking they can be like him one day. It's vile and should be illegal.
In Japan its also a common and popular trope in hentai and porn, the disgusting fat ugly old bastard and a beautiful young girl, and its almost mostly young males watching this shit and getting off to it. You also get retarded Asian pickmes encouraging it and trying to make it seem cute and adorable. It's even worse because many poor Japanese high school and college girls end up whoreing themselves to gross middle aged men for money. It needs to stopped.
No. 2366942
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And of course disgusting neckbeards and Japanese coomers try to make it mainstream and spread 'hilarious' memes out of it, getting off to the idea of old men cucking their wives with much younger women. TMD.
No. 2366944
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>>2366943Yeah and I hate these pickme tards who try to get internet and moid approval updoots by indulging these stupid pornsick coomer fantasies.
I guess its a good thing Japanese women are refusing to have kids.
No. 2366952
>>2366942Using these characters is even worse because that's not
just a younger woman, that's his
daughter. No. 2366953
>>2366941Especially disgusting since this porn trope is never just having ugly but nice bf, he is always
abusive to the girl. Literally the "women actually like being raped" argument by scumbags in meme form.
No. 2366961
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>>2365700Damn, poor kid I’d kill myself kek. Someone shave his head and make sure he’s infertile so we stop creating the school shooter phenotype.
No. 2367008
>>2366952>>2366999Men have zero loyalty to anything including one another, so like the eternal tranny, they are seethingly jealous of and threatened by female friendship and loyalty, even between female family members. So they fantasize about sabotaging and violating sacred female bonds, just like the ones between mother and daughter. 'Stepdad cucks mom with her daughter' is also an extremely common trope in western porn. Nothing gives negative-value men jollies like the idea of two female family members hating and fighting with each other over his tiny withered chode. Not even the nastiest grossest
femcel fantasies can come close to the pathological sexual psychosis of the average man, it's shockingly disturbed.
No. 2367016
>>2366636Even when men "hypergroom" they're not doing anything the average woman doesn't already do. Shaving, nice hair, nice clothes, staying in shape etc. Therefore a man who does this (and doesn't look ugly) would be an average or even slightly below average woman's lookmatch, because even women who aren't that pretty typically still shave and do all this other extra shit that moids don't do.
>>2366747They would go full copium mode and say ermmm it's different because men naturally go bald more frequently and she just shaved her head on purpose!! As a woman you should totally not care about if he looks good or not because a man's value is his status…Or whatever other retarded shit they say.
No. 2367028
>>2361969Pretty sure Asian women want handsome men just like any other normal woman does. Thing is Asian culture is extremely cruel and brutal when it comes to appearances so Asians usually end up with horrible self esteem. I think there was actually a study that showed Asian American youths have the lowest self esteem of any demographic (black people had the highest) but anyway it leads to many Asian women thinking they don't deserve a handsome white man anyway.
I've seen so much self hate tiktoks from Asian women crying about how Chad won't date them and how they wish they were a blonde blue eyed all American or European girl, and I really get second hand embarrassment: their confidence is non existent and their self esteem is piss poor.
Also I guess most white Chad types are usually pretty racist and come from either very trailer trashy or very snobbish WASP families and so their families and community would look down on them for dating a non-white woman. Men generally also innately have reproductive anxiety and an evolutionary fear of their genes being cucked, so they freak out at the thought of having offspring who don't resemble them I guess.
No. 2367069
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Moids on twitter are seething over this normal looking woman making fun of Beardson(Ugly mysogynist ogre), calling her walled, mid and obese etc… Has anyone seen this too? Moids can make fun of how we look all the time but the moment we reverse it they pee their pants in anger, so overly emotional.
No. 2367304
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>>2367048You're a wilfully ignorant retard then. Indians are probably the most self hating people on the planet followed by Asians.
No. 2367326
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>>2367304Asian ≠ Asian Americans
Asians who live in their own countries have no self-hatred. It's only when they grow up in a racist and foreign society that they become your picrel.
(ban evasion) No. 2367367
>>2367326Why edit Lucy Liu like that? I've seen both Korean and Japanese moids bash her and complain that the west only picks "ugly" Asian women to represent them (she resembles the general populace more than most idols do, she just hasn't had surgery).
Asian countries seem so aggressive toward women who haven't had their eyes cut open for an extra fold, jaws sawed to make their faces egg-shaped, noses broken and then reordered, etc. Meanwhile, the moids are allowed to be ugly.
No. 2367385
>>2367378You will be sorely disappointed if you go to China, those are the exception nonna. It's like thinking actual Korean men look like kpop idols. Whole thing is a PR scam, like how they used to lie that British men were handsome decades ago.
China even tried to ban handsome men (by female standards) from TV because they were "too feminine" (ie they made ugly bald old scrotes feel insecure).
No. 2367429
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>>2367425It's ironic because Chinese women see men like this and think American men are handsome.
In reality, all women deal with the ugly men problem, but Indian and Pakistani men might be the absolute worst.
No. 2367440
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>>2367437Oops, my mistake.
But the moid you posted is ugly as sin.
No. 2367636
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>>2367516Who's the retard?
No. 2368129
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>>2367069This has to be a joke kek
No. 2368152
>>2365012Most of those pretty women who put effort into their looks tend to be pick mes or just oblivious to the ugly man psyop. To get that rich and high up in this patriarchal society you usually need to already have those tendencies of wanting to pander to men so you can more easily become successful. A lot of them also seem to enjoy the attention for looking pretty and how dating an uggo makes them look better by comparison.
>>2368129Holy copium
No. 2368230
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>>2363301This is old but I disagree. It's a massive part of the psyop that most male comic characters have a harem of beautiful female love interests. While every female superhero is stuck being loyal to only one scrote who often acts as more of a self insert for scrote fans of female superhero.
Even wonder woman the oldest female superhero is stuck crying over one scrote, while batman would've had a new supermodel love interests by now. Another example is Jean Grey.
One of the most iconic xmen characters but she literally has 2 love interests, with one of them being an ugly manlet who is decades older than her. But both wolverine and Scott Summers have a string of love interests who all look like supermodels.
Even fictional stacies are
victims of the psyop
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>>2368230Not even getting started on the amount of ugly self inserts for scrotes in comic. The thing is the worst one cause it feeds the delusion that women have to ignore looks, care about "personality" AND endure terrible sex. Just pure scrote delusion
No. 2368465
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moids seething that the Japanese woman in their game doesn't look like a 12 year old anime character(derailing)
No. 2368516
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>>2368501but anon the race bending memes are funny
(race derailing) No. 2368572
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>>2368501>Ariana is Sicilian, North African, GreekIs she though? Or is she mostly Italian, 2% NA and 1% Greek? Either way Mediterraneans in general can sometimes look a little racially ambiguous no matter which side of the sea they're from but Ariana is in another category altogether. Her being a weaboo isn't the end of the world though.
(derailing) No. 2368590
>>2368572Don't Italians have distant ancestors from those places and that's why it shows up in their DNA results? Populations kept mixing and somewhere down the line you'll have distant non white ancestors because of the constant conquering?
Some French people have distant moor ancestry for example
(derailing) No. 2368652
>>2368600why can't we make jokes on this site anymore
anyways even as a Ghoulriana she's better looking than uggo celebrity moids, never said she was uggo
Now the thing she's dating, that's an uggo
No. 2368779
>>2367438Good to know
nonnie. I will observe from afar and report back with my findings over the years unironically (he is a childhood friend)
No. 2369208
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jan/27/both-men-and-women-prefer-younger-partners-study-findsThe truth comes out. Redpill scrotes destroyed, ddlgroids in full retreat.
>Quizzed after their brief encounters, both men and women tended to rate younger dates as more desirable future partners, suggesting men do not have a monopoly on putting a premium on youth.
>Psychologists on the study said the results were surprising because academics often presume the global trend for older men in married and cohabiting couples mirrors the preferences of both partners.
>The researchers analysed questionnaires completed by more than 6,000 blind daters who used a matchmaking service to fix them up with a potential long-term partner. Overall, men and women were equally more attracted to younger dates, at least after the first meeting, the authors report in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
>Paul Eastwick, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Davis and the study’s first author, said the finding would be “shocking to many people” because men tend to be older than women in romantic relationships and women generally say they prefer older partners. No. 2369355
>>2369208Kek, this should be surprising to no one, but women self-policing is so prevalent that even as I read this to my normie female friends they tried to deny it. "N-n-nu-uh, I prefer more mature men!"
We live in a first world country, and while it's no matriarchy, if we could just be honest with ourselves we wouldn't need to have studies like this. It would just be as obvious as it should be.
I understand why a lot of women feel like they need to play coy in even in more developed countries, but it's so exhausting when even amongst ourselves
in private, women lie to each other about our preferences. I always suspected this to be the case, but the fact I know so many women who claim the opposite, I was beginning to wonder if I was an outlier for being put off by older moids. Pickmes have been more effective at gaslighting me than any propaganda. It never changed my own preferences, but I really started to think I was the weird one for being so shallow, only to realize they have been virtue signalling the whole time.
It can't be understated how pernicious moid meddling has been in female choice, but I appreciate that the article mentioned at least how some women always claim the opposite without blaming them for being deceivers or w/e incels call us once they understand the truth. It really is just a difference in whether women have enough mobility to refuse old, busted scrotes.
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>>2369355Friendly reminder.
No. 2369490
>>2369355Nta but exactly. Despite so-called daddy issues never in my life did I find old scrotes attractive. Whenever the topic of younger men was brought up all my friends had this theatrical visceral reaction but now some of those in their mid/late twenties have partners 3-4 years younger and they realize how dumb they sounded back then. My younger friends still have this romanticized view of older men but I believe they escape the shackles of this psyop soon too. I now actually have a clear preference for younger guys and wouldn’t even date a 30 year old at 26.
>>2369436They are. Just spend 20 minutes on Reddit and you’ll see how openly men lust after minors or pedo-baiting OF whores.
No. 2369552
>>2369442Right? They seriously cant see what a problem that is? Even shit like sexy nurse/doctor is a thing, which is so gross considering how many women have to face sexism in places like STEM and the medical field specifically. It's creepy af. Men never have issues shopping for halloween costumes, but almost every woman costume is Sexy version of [x]
I hate the "dont like it, don't buy it crowd" when that's all that exists unless you make your own costume. It also is telling when the sexualizing starts as young as 12/13 years old for girls.
No. 2369583
>>2369355There's definitely an old moid psyop in addition to the ugly moid psyop. Because women have been treated like property for most of human history, it's been deeply ingrained in us that we have to find a moid with money to "take care of us," and because old moids hoard all the wealth, it steers us in that direction. But now that we can earn money for ourselves (and are outpacing men in degree attainment) it's time for us to stop prioritizing money and start setting higher standards. If I'm the breadwinner, I want an attractive moid who meets all of the personality criteria I have. That's the expectation men had for women for the longest time, but now it's our turn.
>I read this to my normie female friends they tried to deny it. "N-n-nu-uh, I prefer more mature men!" Get better friends. None of my friends would react this way. They like hot men their own age, not nasty geriatric predators who take advantage of women they think are young and naive.
No. 2369623
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The average straight couple is just some guy + a woman who is stunning, has good skincare, makeup etc.
But scrotes still want to bully women into dropping any standards by calling them shallow for not only caring about "pErSoNaLiTy". We have so many romcoms featuring ugly men getting pretty women thanks to them being "nice" or smth.
No. 2369732
>>2369645Connor Beaton, who I would describe as a diet MRA, was once complaining about the results of a study where people were polled about whether they would reject someone who only met 80% of their standards. Generally, the men said yes and the women said no, which upset Beaton. Here's the thing, though: relationships are way riskier and more costly for women than they are for men, and not just because half of all female homicide
victims are killed by romantic partners. Pregnancies are dangerous for us and they make us vulnerable, so if a woman wants children, she has to find a guy she's certain she can trust long-term to be stable, loyal, etc. Additionally, women can only have children for about two or two and a half decades of our adult lives, so if you want kids (granted, not all women do) any time you spend dating a guy you can't settle down with is time wasted. It's important for us that a partner meet all of our standards.
And as far as I can tell, the study didn't specify
which 20% of the standards the potential partners weren't meeting. If I had five criteria, and one of them was "not a sex offender," You're damn right I would reject a guy if that's the 20% of my standards he failed to meet. Neither Beaton nor the people who ran that study have any clue how single women think.
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No. 2370024
>>2369746I don't believe moids when they say they only want these things ('feminine'/attractive and compliant) or even when women say that moids only want these things. I'm not trying to project humanity onto them or even empathize. It's actually the opposite. Their priorities just differ based on what they want at any given time. I get what you're trying say though, but moids aren't even happy with pretty, submissive girls. They are generally opportunists and if they know they won't have to face consequences for their actions, they will likely go for it. It's not all men, not because some men are more virtuous, just that not all men can afford taking that kind of risk and recovering from it if found out. And not all men have the opportunity in the first place. It's easy to be 'a good man' if you have a lot to lose being a 'bad' one. Think about the shock when it comes out that some famous actor or whatever cheats on his beautiful wife with a homely servant. It really shouldn't be all that shocking when moids are also the first to point out that 'a man has needs' or that it's natural for moids to crave novelty (and a 'high status man' deserves the novelty, duh). They rarely face consequences, and most moids are sympathetic towards him. Even if a moid has the option for a more attractive woman, they might still opt for a less attractive woman in a long term relationship, thinking it would serve them better than risking one with a more attractive woman who might leave them or have other unpredictable traits. Conversely, a lot of moids 'settle' for a plain but motherly woman, while secretly fantasizing about their ideal woman (which is ever-changing), always hoping to trade up or at least hoping to have some secret liaison. This is what the average man will end up doing because this is his best option, while a wealthier man will have the means to many options, sometimes at the same time.
When I was much more unattractive than I am now, I still had moids trying for me because of my 'personality'. I don't think that any of them were capable of actually loving me (in the limited way moids are capable of it), so I never entertained romantic relationships with them. I was just something they believed they could get their paws on at the time. Sometimes these moids would have prettier girlfriends too, and they would complain and compare them to me, especially in regards to perceived intelligence or hobbies/interests. It wasn't that they thought I was actually better than them, these moids just assumed I would be easy, or at the very least, momentarily stimulating even if I didn't fuck them. Having these experiences forced me to reevaluate a lot of my 'friendships' with moids, because I didn't think they would want to fuck me given my unattractiveness and their commitments, yet this awkward dynamic still manifested. Speaking to women of all levels of attractiveness (subjective, but still), this isn't an uncommon phenomenon unique to me either. There isn't anything special about any of us, we were literally just women who happened to be there.
It's the same reason why moids can will complain about so-called 'sluts' while also following Instagram models and jacking off to porn, or whining that more sensible presentations of females are 'woke' and yet still preferring to be married to a modest, reasonable woman. Women are still tools in the scrotal brain, and while appearance will always rank pretty high, it doesn't really matter to matter to them, depending on their situation. One night stand? Doesn't matter. Summer fling? Most attractive female you can seduce. Marriage? Average, stable woman. It's just parasitic behavior, jumping from host to host at different stages in its life cycle. I actually do believe them when they say they don't care about looks as much as we think they do, because their standards are so shit and they're guided by the whims are their penises. Of course they would prefer to be surrounded by as many penis-pleasing women as possible, but any woman would do, even if they do it begrudgingly. Ultimately they just want to take advantage of whatever situation they are given. Some are complete idiots, but the majority have at least enough cunning to know how to make the best of their life's circumstances, whatever that might be. A lot of married men admit they think they aren't attracted to their wives, but that it was worth it in exchange for whatever she brought to the table. They will pretend like they 'gatekeep marriage', but marriage benefits them more than us. Even if they think their wives are ugly, a warm hole is still a warm hole to them, and if they play their cards right, they can always get other holes on the side without her ever knowing.
If they
do pick pretty, submissive women, they often times aren't satisfied with just that. They get bored, because they aren't mentally stimulated by a woman they have nothing in common with, and it's in their biology to mate with as many women as possible. Even if a woman is obedient but still somehow an independent breadwinner
and a nurturing tradwife at the same (and a lot of women are both careerists and a homemakers in reality), they won't be satisfied with this because an obedient woman won't push them to meet their potential, unless they fully realize they have no potential and stopped caring. Most moids reject the belief that they are inherently kind of worthless, and a woman like this will only convince him of this truth and he'll resent her. Really only bottom barrel scrotes will be satisfied with this, because their worthlessness is undeniable to them and everybody else, usually early on in their lives. Aside from that, moid psychology is a careful balancing act of self-delusion.
So they'll always want more, for whatever purpose. The only reason sex dolls and rape tourism are so popular now is because they are getting more desperate and coming to the same realization we are (their insignificance), and they want us to believe that they don't need us. It's not like these concepts or practices didn't exist before, but it was really only for the most loser-y of scrotes who couldn't get a wife even when they had a major advantage historically. Most men think they're better than that and deserve better than that but the illusion is breaking. They think they can induce a FOMO in women, and we'll just go back to being happy to be picked. Obviously this isn't really working, so in their desperation, some of them actually do have to resort to these things to appease their little pps. They're not actually happy with this though. They just want women to lower their standards just enough to accept them, so they can have the prestige of a 'legacy' and comfort of a stable home life. For the great majority of moids, their best bet is an average woman who will pop out a few babies for them, provide them company (emotional labor), housekeeping, home cooked meals, etc. But average woman are starting to realize what a farce this is too, so they're throwing everything at us to get us thinking they're a scarce resource. That will never really work though, which is why there's such a huge push to induce the same kind of conditions we had in the past that pressured most women into relying on moids. Whatever it takes to get any wife that will provide them a comfortable and ensured lifestyle, that's the bare minimum they think they deserve. She doesn't have to be a Stacy, she doesn't even have to be super traditional. It's just the one thing they think they're owed, and even if they have that, they still won't be satisfied. They won't be satisfied with an extremely beautiful, compliant woman either. They will always look at other women and wonder.
Besides the obvious threats of violence or other poor outcomes, women are more picky because we're more loyal. Whoever you pick, you pick with the sense this is the one and only for the rest of your life, or at least as long as the relationship lasts. Generally we have a better sense of empathy, and if it isn't innate, it's browbeaten into us by society that we
must be considerate, loyal, virtuous, etc. You have to be more picky when you know your potential spouse can kill you, your offspring, or just simply abandon you one day, which they often do as soon as you become a burden and can no longer offer them anything. You put everything on the line. Moids aren't picky, because even if they do get married, they don't have the same risks we have. Not only is violence not a worry for them, even if they are with one woman, they're not
really with one woman in their mind, and if they can get away with it, they're not with one women in reality either. Marriage isn't the burden they pretend it is, that's also a part of their scheme. Despite what they say, moids cheat at a higher rate than we do. They also have more relationships overall than we do. For us fidelity is law, and for them it's merely a suggestion.
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>>2369994He has eyes like a pig.
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>>2370024Wonderful write up, let’s also discuss the burden of unnaturally high amounts of empathy women have. It’s to our detriment yet we keep doing it, like a pit bull mauling knowing it will die if it keeps doing that. It feels artificially bred into us, or over-nourished. I know it can be fixed because I did it to myself.
>For us fidelity is law, and for them it's merely a suggestion.But WHY? It’s fucking retarded to be loyal to something that couldn’t give less of a shit about you. It’s unnatural and backwards. Cheat back! Abandon him back! Stop being such a fucking pushover
No. 2370040
>>2369994to be fair I don't think macaulay culkin was ever shilled as good looking, he was just known for being the cute kid in the home alone movies when he was little. brenda is definitely better looking than him though.
either way their thousand yard stares in that pic are freaking me out, god knows how many stinky middle aged hollywood pedo dicks they were made to suck during their time in the industry, just tragic really. i wish them well.
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>>2370024This is really well-written, nona. Imagine me snapping my fingers in agreement.
>>2370035>>For us fidelity is law, and for them it's merely a suggestion.>But WHY? It’s fucking retarded to be loyal to something that couldn’t give less of a shit about you. It’s unnatural and backwards. Cheat back! Abandon him back! Stop being such a fucking pushoverIf relationships with men are inevitably favoring them, might as well play the game equally. There is no way to make them play fair like so many women have and self police themselves to do so. Might as well treat a scrote how he treats women to get even.
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>>2370055Men's ability to separate love and sex is frightening and almost inhuman. I really think male sexuality is based around hate and contempt.
Have you noticed how pedos also generally have hate and contempt towards children, even though the children are completely innocent and have never done anything to them? Non pedo men act the same towards women. Male sexuality is based around hatefucking and wanting to kill the women they get horny for. It has absolutely zero to do with love. In the male mind, fucking something is an act of sadism and humiliation to the receiver. It's why men will fuck each other in the ass during wars. Male sexuality is a pathology. It's nature's biggest mistake, through and through.
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>>2370055I said this before in the fandom discourse thread, I'll say it again: moids don't know what the fuck they want. They think they want a girl who looks like a porn star and has a ton of knowledge of sex, but who is also a blushing trad virgin who is saving herself for their worthless obese hairy asses. Obviously they give no consideration to what they would ever have to offer these women in return, or whether they're worthy of female companionship in the first place. It's all a fantasy and they'll die alone with their dicks in their hands.
No. 2370079
>>2370055Even Belle has mostly been forgotten/irrelevant now. Her spawns and calfs, the monsters she helped create, have become more popular than her. Men wanked to her then moved onto the next in line of the millions of e-girls. Like this nona said
>>2370068 men don't even know what they really want. Gotta love how they project fickleness onto women when the moid is the most fickle creature on earth. One minute telling you he hates lip fillers and fake tan, the next jacking off to some porn bimbo with 500ml of saline in her lips and a fluorescent orange glow.
What's certain is that all modern men have been incredibly spoiled by the massive array of beautiful women online, and became the most entitled generation of men in history. It's completely unnatural for men to have ever seen so many beautiful, perfect, surgically and digitally enhanced women as they have on the internet. The average wurstie from the first world has probably seen 10,000 or more top tier women naked. Meanwhile Grug was lucky to see one particularly attractive female in his whole 30 year lifespan. We are living in the most unnatural, unhealthy time in history, quite literally being poisoned in every way: our minds, bodies, souls. And yet we are expected to just adjust to this hideously
toxic world.
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>>2369994wtf how did he age 20 years in the span of 6 years?
No. 2370085
>>2370075Everything that post said is true, you just aren't ready for the male nature blackpill. Can't blame you.
Women in a relationship with a male literally have to spoon-feed themselves copium every morning to deal with the fact they sleep next to a biological killing, raping machine every night. She prays he won't fuck another woman the minute her back is turned, then carries on with their day, trying to ignore reality as best as she can.
Female heterosexuality is Stockholm syndrome on steroids. The reality of men is simply too much to bear for most women, so they project their own humanity, empathy, and kindness onto their kill-rape machine and hope for the best. To be a woman, you need to practise extreme cognitive dissonance everyday just to not want to slit your wrists at realizing you share half the world with these wretched creatures.
You either love men, or you understand them.
To understand men is to have every positive illusion you ever thought about humanity shattered, so most women choose the former just to get by. As I type this to you, let it sink in that both of us are products of millennia of men raping women. We are literally the product of thousands of years of rapists and rape
victims.
No. 2370097
>>2370035We pretty much have to abandon any hope for monogamy. It's just in their nature, and unless they are truly frightened by what might happen to them if they cheat, they'll do it if the chance presents itself, and if he's actually attractive, it probably will. Aside from their general scroteness, I don't think there's enough attractive men to go around for every woman. Some women might be able to attain an attractive man, and he may even be physically loyal, but that's just one man of a very limited supply of men. It's probably best to just enjoy them casually while they're still attractive and build up your closest relationships with friends/family instead. It's probably even better if you avoid moids in general, but I can't fault any woman from wanting to enjoy herself. I just don't think you can expect monogamy from them, and they're almost always more draining than actually helpful. They're
at best, a good time for a very limited amount of time.
>>2370055You're right in that they do (or did) want Belle Delphine. Where you're wrong is that they don't want pure/trad/modest women as well. That's the point. They want both. There's not a single kind of woman they want, because they want as much as they can get, usually for different reasons. The thing to realize about men is that their fantasies are ever changing, because they are highly suggestible when it comes to sexuality, and they're programmed to pursue any woman who will give them a chance. Moids don't only use women for sex, and I think this is important to note because a lot of women will be 'friends' with moids not understanding that moids will use women in any way they see fit. It doesn't have to be purely sexual. A moid even being in the presence of a woman gives them more credence. They don't have to want to fuck that particular woman, but they can provide the cover they need to get closer to women they do want to fuck. And they'll still fuck the girl they don't want to fuck just because they can. Even gay moids use women. They don't want to fuck them, but they use them in their symbols of status to other moids they actually want to fuck as well.
The most disturbing thing about them wanting virginal tradwives (as an archetype) is often because there is something very fetishistic about it. I mentioned why they would prefer them for practical reasons, but there's also a disgusting sexual reason as well. Corruption is a common theme in their 'kinks'. Idk, maybe they realize how dirty they are, maybe it's porn-induced, but a disturbing number of moids want to take something 'pure' and 'innocent' and twist it to their desires. They liked Belle Delphine in her time, and sure sluts have their own appeal, but there's a different kind of appeal the 'pure' have to them that's more disturbing to me, especially since it often does go hand-in-hand with pedophilia. A slut is a slut who will do what you want, but there's a lot of moids who simply get off on the idea of breaking a young woman or girl in as a form of domination. I almost wish they preferred NPD sluts and only NPD sluts, because then it would be at least be mutual and they would get what they deserved when the NPDemon is unleashed on them. That's not enough though, they have to haunt women who choose to be chaste, and they haunt
girls.
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>>2370075Anon…
everything that anon said was true. It’s frankly dangerous to lie to young women about the true nature of moids. I have a nigel who is honest about his thoughts to nearly an autistic degree, and he has echoed that anon’s thoughts to me exactly. He encouraged me not have sex with him so soon when we first started dating because he knew I would get emotionally attached through sex much quicker than him and he didn’t want to use me for my body, despite his basal instincts. Moids don’t need to respect you, like you, care about you, or even find you pretty to have sex with you. They will fuck anything, even contemptuously. This is one of the hardest pills to swallow for many young women when they enter the dating scene. Women and men both desire and experience sex differently. Male sexuality
is sociopathic.
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>>2370097>here's a lot of moids who simply get off on the idea of breaking a young woman or girl in as a form of domination.Reminds me of how common and popular nun porn is. When i was younger i never understood it, because to me nun is synonym with older woman in a quasi-burqa who screams at you, the total opposite of what i would consider 'sexy'. I was so innocent i didnt realize they didnt get off to irl nuns themselves, but rather the idea of corrupting and violating a woman who choose to be chaste.
Speaking of, i am so tired of going to party stores and seeing the female outfits. Its always school girls, nuns, nurse, maid, cheerleader, sexualized fucking dorothy costumes, who is meant to be a little girl and played by a 16yo. There are even fucking Wendy's sexy costumes, sexy costumes of the little girl on the logo! insane. Imagine if women did the same and sexualized school boys, boy scouts, sports players, male nurses, priests. You went to buy a peter pan outfit and instead of a normal outfit it was a whore peter pan. They would absolutely throw a bitch fit about how they are opressed.
No. 2370133
>>2370097>I don't think there's enough attractive men to go around for every woman. Some women might be able to attain an attractive man, and he may even be physically loyal, but that's just one man of a very limited supply of men. It's probably best to just enjoy them casually while they're still attractive and build up your closest relationships with friends/family instead.I find myself thinking this a lot. Men are held to such abysmal standards that for every five gorgeous women there's probably one equally handsome guy. And that's setting aside all the non-aesthetic standards that cause women to be better romantic partners than their male counterparts. And the fact of the matter is that we're not lions, it's absurd to expect a bunch of women to "share" one guy, not least because the kinds of moids who are into that tend to be egomaniac sociopaths. Straight women really are best off just focusing our energy on improving familial and platonic relationships. We might as well save up our money and have kids single using a sperm donor, since moids don't contribute much to parenting anyway– studies have shown that even when women work full time, we still do most of the housework. I guess moids would still be useful for casual sex, but not much else.
If the world made sense, humans would be like birds, where the males have to invest a ton of energy into being beautiful because females are inherently the more selective sex due to the cost and risks associated with pregnancy. Women risk so much for relationships and babies, yet for some reason we're also expected to do most of the preening and men aren't. It's horseshit.
Say I meet a "perfect" guy, or one that fits my standards. Then I have to live with the constant anxiety that he'll cheat on me because I'm not a supermodel who wants anal every night, or because he's bored, or any number of other reasons. That sounds exhausting, and not really worth it regardless of how great the guy supposedly is.
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>>2370116The fuck is the middle one with ears and pizza-shaped pockets supposed to be? Pizza rat?
No. 2370194
>>2370182>You wish you had their good Nigel but you can't so you seethe that all men and "nigelfags" are evil instead.I don't, because I'm not straight. I don't even seethe over nigels or men either, I've just noticed the difference in certain man haters here and was pointing it out. To be honest, I don't think it's inherently hypocritical to hate men but still date them either but I do find it funny when a
nonnie goes full AM regarding men and then reveals she keeps on herself. It's like the woman version of "never ask a white supremacist the ethnicity of his girlfriend", never ask a man-hater
nonnie the sex of her partner.
No. 2370200
>>2370182What's the reason to
not hate males?
>>2370196What's a nigeling…
No. 2370292
>>2370097It reminds me of how those vile rapey Muslim scrotes in the UK had both their Muslim tradwife broodmare maids kept at home, and harems of their white underage 'loli rape slaves' that they were basically free to do anything in the sick male realm of fantasy to for years (even right down to murder and mutilation). And yet these males were still angry, nasty, bitter, ugly, hateful scrotum rats despite having their every whim, both domestic and sexual, catered to. What an absolutely abysmal gender XYs are, literally incapable of happiness or contentment, only existing to spread their own misery like parasites to women everywhere.
And I use Islam as a frame of reference because the Islamic take on women is basically word for word incel ideology that all men ideally wish to implement in order to try and control women, the right wing scrotes protesting against it would do the exact same if also allowed.
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>>2370215It makes me so sad that developed male calves and ass are seen as a gay trait it makes me so sick. Yet another thing the gays have taken from us.
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>>2370215>>2370325If you nonas want to see some straight moids with fat asses, take a look at hockey players. Tragically though, they often have gorilla-like faces. Guys with nice faces
and good butts do tend to be gay, unfortunately.
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>>2370384Yeah, though there was that one hockey moid that got popular a while back. The constant injuries fuck up thier faces
No. 2370401
>>2370182I can't speak for every anon, but I like men's bodies, I just despise their socialization, proclivity towards violence, poor hygiene, sexual dysfunction, and entitlement. If they thought and behaved the same way women do, I'd probably be super promiscuous kek. As things stand, though, their character is a huge turn off, so I just look at the menu without ordering, so to speak.
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>>2370398Decided to look him up to see what he looks like currently, why do moids choose to age themselves by growing unnecessary facial hair. He has good bone structure and he is only 22 the face pubes and haircut do no favors
No. 2370411
>>2370404>still cute>>2370405>is thisHe is busted
>only 22Nevermind he's fully fucked for the rest of his life. There's no coming back from that violent of a wall slam
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>>2370394He kinda reminds me of Nolan Patrick, another (ex?) hockey player. Ironically he also had his career cut short because of injuries. He used to be so cute, but he's aging like fucking milk. I'm glad though, he's a massive loser irl so his downfall is great to watch. He doesn't deserve the pretty face anyway
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>>2370436crosbyanon, is it you?
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Speaking of hockey players, any other nonnies been tricked where they see a player on the ice and he looks attractive? And then when he takes his helmet off he's fuckinh ugly as sin? Me and my friend call it getting hockey fished kek
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>>2370459Will Smith (of the SJ Sharks). Without his bucket on, he looks like someone digitally de-aged Willem DaFoe (that's not a compliment). His ginger ass is going to get fucking annihilated by twink death.
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>>2370459Many such cases, the hockey gear is part of the appeal. I think that goalies are thr biggest
victims of hockey fishing, but maybe that's because I have a soft spot for them, their helmets are cool and make them look more attractive than they actually are kek
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My theory is that most of the ugly male psyop is perpetuated by dumb women.
No. 2370610
>>2370604can you stop posting luigis fucking face outside of the containment thread?
Thank you.
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>>2370604This is moid-takes level
No. 2370616
>>2370394>>2370405Twink death claims yet another
victim…
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>>2370292Yes! They even have their own version of animu waifus, along with keeping their broodmares and rapeslaves, they literally believe they will be rewarded in heaven with houri, which is where the 72 virgins thing comes from. Read any description of them and they're 'gazelle-eyed' virgins with paradoxically high libidos and gigantic tits. It's not enough to say that they're rewarded these perfect, otherworldly beauties, they actually describe them in detail the same way you'd expect any incel to describe one of his animu waifus.
This is only for the moids of course, women don't get anything even remotely similar in heaven (except that she gets to be with her scrote husband while he has heavenly sex with his other wives and animu waifus), and according to them, most of hell is populated with 'ungrateful' women. A virtuous woman isn't even allowed a perfect fantasy husband in their idea of heaven. Being submissive to a scrote husband and not going to hell for her obedience is the best a Muslim women can hope for after all her suffering.
European moids can say they hate Islam, but there's a reason 'White Shariah' is a meme. This is their ideal afterlife as well. Racism is the only thing holding them back, but they would love to think women are being eternally punished for being disobedient and ungrateful, while they reap the rewards of every coombrain desires for simply being 'good' moids who promote the violence and aggression of patriarchy.
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>>2370215I used to think nice round asses in men were an anime invention until i started watching gay porn to use as reference for my drawings. Now i want a bf with a fat ass but all the guys i met have convace asses from spending too much time playing videogames.
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No. 2370673
>>2370651Checks out. Most of the women I know in real life who claimed that their Nigels preferred to take a submissive role all had something in common. Their Nigels were too weak or fat to take an active role and being passive was just easier for their pitiful bodies. It's just less work for them if the woman is doing everything. The others who liked being submissive were actually just 'switches', and they were usually more fit Nigels by comparison. As in they'll tolerate and even get off to anything sexual a woman does to him, but he's gonna want to turn tables too and subject a woman to whatever depravity he has in mind.
I'm sure there's unicorn cases, but having talked to other women I know personally, there's a definite pattern in their personal moids if they supposedly are 'submissive'.
No. 2370691
>>2370682>the captain ordered his crew to shoot moids who were trying to get dibs on the lifeboat over women and kids.topkek. Its honestly insane how redpill moids keep shilling the narrative that men are protectors when its just not true. Outside of the femicide rates, in the Ecole shooting NONE of the male classmates stepped in to help their female classmates. Worst part is that moids wants us to believe that those moids are
victims too. They were FIFTY FUCKING MEN against one single shooter. None of them wanted to help the women or risk their lives for them. Men are scum.
No. 2370698
>>2370691You know if that shooting was the other way around scrotes would be shitting their pants in glee since it would be "confirmation women are the weaker sex"
Also how come femicide is never considered a hate crime?
These women will literally die in the same targeted manner as any other hate crime but they aren't a protected class at all. Not that it matters in 2025…
No. 2370751
>>2370464Plus, not enough hot prettyboy chad types to lust for.
If i want to see a hot man i have to draw him
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>>2370375Add wrestlers to the list
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>>2370776And just one more because why not
bless the anon who said how to find these ily No. 2370789
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>this guy was 30 when he was arrested for murdering his family over a camwhore
BALDING AT 30 NONNIES. so much for aging like wine.
No. 2370802
>>2370789Men will cry that women initiate divorce more often, instead of just killing their spouse and children like they do I guess lmao.
There is definitely a link between family annihilators and ugliness. If you think like a moid, their shallowness makes sense, once you realize they are not capable of the same kind of theory of mind/empathy we are. Most women regardless of looks are generally pretty mild-mannered, but males of the species advertise who they are with their appearance. An ugly moid is ugly inside and out. Good-looking moids can be rotten too (they are still male after all), but the most evil scrotes are often the most ugly. Balding, obese, poor facial proportions, short etc.
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>>2370682I remember reading about the SS Atlantic and saw picrel. This image is upsetting to me even if it's not graphic. There's just something disturbing about how artfully moids try to depict the death of women, as if our bodies are still an object to admire, even post-mortem. Especially contrasted to the old ugly face of the seaman.
All the women died in this shipwreck, and it's fucked up because part of the reason was that women just happened to be segregated into the part of the ship that sank first. There wasn't really any way around this either, they
had to be segregated because single women are not safe in the presence of moids, though husbands could stay with their wives. Victorian 'sensibilities' kek. What good that did them.
It wasn't even intentional, and yet moids are still indirectly responsible for the death of every woman on that ship, simply because they can't be decent enough to be trusted in close proximity.
No. 2370822
>>2370803this is such a creepy image looks like he's getting ready to rape her
I hate men
No. 2370979
>>2370405wipe the facial pubes away and let his hair grow longer and he'd look so much better
why,why WHY do moids fall for the facial hair psyop,it's so fucking gross
No. 2370986
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>>2352884>>2353030>>2352999>>2353065this basically proves my theory, there are many overweight, unattractive and balding moids who are incapable of embodying the young male protagonist or even the tough macho action hero, so they opt to insert themselves as creatures such as goblins, orcs, trolls e.t.c you saw this with baalbuddy comics, where all the female characters are portrayed as longing for these revolting monsters drawn like fat ugly men, said ugly moid characters are also portrayed as being more stronger than the lean young men, even though, in real life, the vast majority of warriors who have ever existed were fit young men rather than balding and obese men
No. 2370988
>>2370986Every single time I see these horrible fucking comics im reminded of my ex boyfriend
who was 4 inches and phimotic who loved them, especially the ones with horny elves getting turned down
because he had a fetish for rejecting women and I just want to kill myself
No. 2371002
>>2370986Yep. nowadays even young moids are balding and ugly since they no longer do manual labour, and they feel oppressed by seeing women liking male characters who're young and pretty (like male elves, you never see a hot elf anymore) or young and fit.
It's especially bad because the moids who make the bug decisions in entertainment are usually either ugly flabby geeky types or decrepit old men.
you see it in every area of entertainement, form ugly male video game protags to orc porn to casting decisions in live action media (e. g. the ugly decrepit short-haired pale elves in rings of power, or having 20-something twink era napoleon played by a wrinkled old scrote)
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>>2352999>>2362809>or that they seem like gay pedophilesthis is another example, picrel was from a video recapping an 80's Mario OVA that featured Princess Peach marrying a handsome young prince named Haru in the end. Of course, there were moids who were personally upset by it, but then a few other men outright admitted they wanted to rape the prince(who looks like a young boy), like, it's weird that they don't realize how gay and pedophilic they always come across.
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No. 2371189
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>"He’s 47 and this is a mugshot, of course he doesn’t look the way he did when he was 22 and being paid to be professionally handsome in studio lighting."
>"If you look at other photos of him he looks like a regular middle-aged guy who would strike you as attractive if you saw him on the street."
>"Like very very attractive"
comments on a post about Tom Welling. lmao. any woman who aged like this would get crucified.
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>>2371189Damn he didn't just hit the wall, a whole fucking house fell on top of him
No. 2371237
>>2370988I am so sorry you went through that, good riddance holy shit.
A lot of men can't take rejection but are so eager to dish it out, it's crazy
No. 2371256
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>>2370066sorry if this is OT but reminds me of a sociopathic writing I found in one of my husbands journals from before we met..fucking terrifying. Why are they like this? Porn or biology? I wish all men weren’t inherently sociopathic but the older I get the more I realize they are narcissists at best.
No. 2371345
can you imagine going from looking like this
>>2371192 to looking like
>>2371189i would genuinely want to kms, knowing you had it all and let it slip away
No. 2371355
>>2371327'Girl pretty' and 'guy pretty' are a thing.
'Girl handsome' and 'guy handsome' are also a thing.
The men guys think are handsome like the GigaChad meme are mostly ugly to women, and the guys women think are handsome mostly seem gay or generic to men.
Likewise many women will find a certain other females extremely beautiful, while that is often mostly ignored or negged by men who seek out other types of attractive female aesthetic that most women would find obnoxious or generic. Girl pretty example would be Monica Belluci, guy pretty example would be Mikayla Demaiter.
Obviously both these women are attractive but the latter appeals more to men's tastes.
No. 2371382
>>2371373Yeah it seems moids either like the bimbo pornstar instathot look with huge tits and ass, or babyfaced girls who look 12.
Women are better appreciators of actual beauty.
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>>2370776Country roads, take me home
No. 2371469
>>2371297>A lot of moids, especially pretty boys, have some sort of complex about looking "young".>>2371462This is definitely true, I've often seen men acting like it's a bad thing if they look younger when it's…Not?
This is exactly what I said in
>>2370413 No. 2371470
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China is so insanely based, that shit would be scandalous if not impossible in the US and Europe. Meanwhile there you can see a dad and his son just standing there and watching him.
No. 2371480
>>2371172Look I hate the way pedophilia was normalized in the ancient world, but in modern times, gay men aren't "taking twinks away" from straight women. These "twinks" are just into fucking other men, and the unfortunate reality is that twinky young gay men invest more effort into their appearance than straight men their age, because they're trying to be appealing to other gay men. If they were straight, they wouldn't preen as much. These guys
want to fuck other men, so it would be miserable to be in a loveless straight marriage with one. They're not being "taken away," they're
choosing not to fuck you and you're seething about it kek
No. 2371516
>>2371189Omg, I used to watch Smallville because he was so cute. The wall calm crashing down
>>2371191Kekk
No. 2371525
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>>2371189KEKKKKK no fucking way. This guy is an actual repeat offender for the psyop by the way, when he was on Lucifer, they spent
every single episode of the season gassing up his character and insisting he was so hot that all the other men were jealous. I'm not exaggerating. Meanwhile he looked like this.
No. 2371582
>>2371211Nah, that's the perfect amount of bodyfat on a muscular guy. That's what separates him from roidpigs, their muscle mass is high with extremely low bf so they look dried out and veiny and nasty like
>>2351443. I get that many anons prefer super lean men with a low amount of muscle mass but if you like bigger guys he's both muscular and smooth/soft in the most ideal way.
(do not defend ugly men itt) No. 2371823
>>2371582Agree. Ayrt is nuts, there's nothing feminine or "obese" about a man having a thin layer of fat over his muscles like in
>>2371181 It only gets to be gross when the guy gets a gut or rolls or whatever. If a guy is a total roidpig with no fat, it's not as nice to cuddle with him. There's definitely a balance.
>>2371624Yeah, like the post directly above yours.
>>2371631You don't seem to understand the concept of nuance. I'm nauseated by fat or even slightly "chunky" guys, too, but I don't care for 1% bodyfat orthorexics, either. In order for a guy to have a nice ass, he does have to have a
little bit of body fat.
No. 2371830
>>2371480 men make fun of women for liking twinks and pretty boys and not "real men" yet turn around and lust over them and make them lovers
Also have you ever met a straight twink?
No. 2371861
>>2371549I feel bad but I laughed really hard. Hope shes ok
>>2370803Reminds me of the women that killed herself and they posted her photos everywhere because she was beautiful.
No. 2371863
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>>2371256i cant believe we have two confirmed anons who married retards
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Pic rel is my minimum standards.
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>>2371892the only famous moid I got memed into liking was lexi skarsgard but now im older I realize how off he looks. blob nose, weird close together piggy eyes, no lips, balding, skinny ectomorphic frame that only looks decent when he's abusing roids. he's such a basic northern european man meanwhile american women act like he's the hottest shit ever.
No. 2371899
>>2371898butthole eyes
literally looks like he has butthole skin around his eyes kek
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he is so goddamn ugly
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>>2371901I genuinely see no difference
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>>2371898Remember true blood? Maybe he was just 'hot' because Bill was hideous
No. 2372041
>>2370886>even if you can't really do much about their skin and other signs of aging.They can and should be taking oral finasteride to prevent circulating free testosterone so they don't lose all their hair and get leather football face syndrome, starting at 20 years old or even younger, whenever they start showing symptoms.
>>2370627Loser mentality.
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>>2371901>latinasformangionehe doesn't even want latinas kek, he wants asians.
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>>2370068>blonde trad virgin girl>mentally ill hot goth girlMoids are just describing Riverdale's Betty Cooper and her crazy split personality Dark Betty.
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>>2372115Because it was written, produced and developed by a gay Latino man who looks like Jewish lesbian.
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>>2371525I’m mourning. He was so cute in Smallvile.
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>>2372229Kristina is 43 now while he is 47. But she still looks as beautiful, society really psyoped us into thinking that women don’t age gracefully kek. We mature and become different , scepters literally wither.
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>>2372237Meant to say scrotes
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>>2372166That's pretty naive to assume it's homophobia and not sexism and an extension of patriarchal beliefs. It's not really about whether or not a moid is gay, it's about whether or not he's 'feminine' or has any attributes that a moid can associate with what they consider femaleness (which to moids means being a submissive hole for fucking). Maybe you'd have a point like 70 years ago but at least here in the West, homosexuality is accepted in most parts and there's
still stigma around effeminate moids. A crop top isn't bad because it's 'gay', it's because it's 'feminine' and only appropriate for people who are willing to be feminine aka fucked by moids.
Even gay moids themselves look down on moids who are too flamboyant or lack some perceived masculinity. They still partake in patriarchal beliefs and replicate them, the only difference is they don't target females sexually. That's part of why a lot of them shill the bear look (something many of us complain of on this thread) that both gay and straight men adopt. Which is very funny because I see straight moids call their builds 'bearmode' without any realization where it originates. It's also pretty notable that they still fetishize young, pretty moids as exploitable twinks, but they are also the most looked down upon, much like how straight moids treat women. They also view twinks who refuse to mature into a different gay moid archetype (like a bear) as a joke, much like how straight moids make jest of women who don't settle down into a mother role as they age. They still perpetuate beliefs about domination and submission, and they're far more open about it as well because moids are coom driven regardless of whether they are heterosexual, bisexual, or homosexual. It's almost worse because at least some women gatekeep sexuality with straight moids, but gay moid culture has no such limiters.
We only really have to look at cultures where homosexuality wasn't banned or was even encouraged. These 'gay' and 'straight' identities are a relatively new idea in human culture, not that homosexual behavior didn't exist. It definitely did, but they just didn't use those words. It was a matter of sexual domination of someone else, male or female. In some parts of ancient Greece, homosexual behavior was common, but they normally practiced frottage or thigh-fucking as its default expression. Actual buttsex was looked down upon, because that put you on the same level as a woman (to be used as a hole and penetrated), and it was almost always a bigger, stronger, older adult male on a younger, beardless male. You were expected to grow out of your youthful submission and become a dominator of other men and women. That made you more powerful/'masculine'. Male sexuality, whether they are attracted to females or males, has always been centered on domination and submission, or the taboo inversion of it. They don't view sexuality as an equal joining of two people, not like we do.
Ironically they also viewed moids who spent more time with women than moids as more effeminate lmao.
No. 2372336
>>2372323Why don't scholars and historians simply admit that gayness only became popular in Ancient Greece as a
toxic byproduct of child molestation?
It's well known that straight young boys who get assraped as children almost always grow up to be gay or bi at the very least and usually end up raping other boys up the ass too when they get old enough.
The 'phenomenon' of homosexuality in these ancient cultures wasn't a political choice, an act of rebellion or spite against women, or a random evolutionary glitch that resulted in a particularly homosexually inclined group of people. The gayness and pederasty epidemic was literally just a sociological pedophilia experiment that was started by a small bunch of nonces and resulted in mass homosexuality because male homosexuality is literally spread through child rape. That's the truth.
No. 2372342
>>2372336And this is one point that the fundies are correct about. Homosexuality is spread through child molestation. I guarantee if every single moid in society was raped in the ass or molested by an older male while growing up, homosexuality would be the default sexuality of all moids.
It's insane to me that people think Ancient Greece, Afghanistan, Samurai era Japan etc had some genetic or special cultural predisposition to homosexuality. Naw, it was simply because each generation of scrote kept molesting each other after they themselves had been molested in childhood and it spread just like a disease.
No. 2372365
>>2372328Yeah, I think the rise of femboys or traps or whatever is evidence of this. Because of 'homophobia' in the past, it was less acceptable to express these desires, but now moids can be more brazen about their desires, which is just 'fuck hole'.
>>2372330Yeah, it's blackpilling. I always see other women making exception for gay moids, but they treat them like their special little pets, just because they don't think gay moids will rape them. It's annoying because the biggest supporters of gay moids, in my experience as a lesbian, are straight women who simply haven't spent enough time around them. Once you do, it's eye-opening, because even I had some similar misunderstandings when I was young. They are more tolerable in that they won't target you personally, most of the time, but they are not our allies. I kind of view them like male feminists. They will support us as much as we further their goals and not much else.
>>2372336>>2372342>>2372346It's so primal that there's an isolated tribe in Papua New Guinea who practice ritual homosexual pedophilia where boys must suck off older moids of the tribe to 'develop' into adult men. They practiced this for ages and haven't stopped because uhhhhh moral relativism. I wonder if these things are social contagions or just innate male inclinations that must be suppressed or they will spiral out of control.
No. 2372421
>>2372388based and true.
>>2372399female and male nature are very different. for females sexuality is fixed but for males it's fluid and influenced by the environment. stop identifying with fags/males.
No. 2372483
>>2371189This is so retarded. Tom Welling was still very hot in his early 30s, he simply let himself go after Smallville ended, and as you can see with
>>2372237, some cast members (even men, like Justin Hartley) haven't aged badly at all.
>>2371192For me, Tom Welling at his prime is peak male form. What a loss.
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I realized recently that I'm viscerally disgusted by men with downturned eyes (negative canthal tilt). In my early 20s I dated a couple of men who had eyes like these and when he'd make eye contact while eating me out I had to close my eyes and pretend it was somebody else. It just looks dopey and retarded as fuck.
No. 2372624
>>2372600avoid moids who try to push your boundaries, they are testing the waters to see what they can get away with. no is a full sentence and if they try to coerce you or continue pressing after you've clearly stated your boundaries, that's a chop. this also goes for moids who try and do depraved shit, choking (even "light" choking), pushing your head down, any other physical force, that screams porn addiction. so does not considering your pleasure, he should be begging to eat your pussy and be fully invested in making you cum. when i was younger i used to fake orgasms because i was so brainwashed by male sexuality. don't do that. backhanded compliments or negging is also a huge red flag, this can be subtle though, such as a "joke" that seems mean and you can't stop thinking about hours later. pay attention to the media he consumes, any manosphere is a no, anime moids are also highly suspect. good luck, it's really abysmal out there. listen to your gut, but also be logical and don't let the facts take a backseat to your feelings and hormones.
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>>2372365The rise of femboys and traps have been a disaster for the human race.
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>>2372667I am so jealous of women who got to tap qte shy nerds like John Carmack in the 70s/80s/90s. I cant believe even women with bottom tier taste like us cant even get bfs anymore. I feel sorry for all the stacy nonnies who want chad bfs.
No. 2372744
>>2372686i understand the father worshipping accusation, i'm not saying the men are good or the kids will have a deep relationship with them, but enough kids born from sperm donors do wonder about the father's identity.
there is no societal push for kids to know surrogates or sperm donors because it goes against treating human relationships as transactions that the fertility industry is trying to encourage. it's obviously worse for surrogates who are treated as breeding machines and dumped when things go wrong.
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>>2372545Prey eyes, predator eyes– whatever it's called, I am kind of neutral to it, but I have a slight preference for positive canthal tilts. Most moids look better with that, so long as it isn't paired with an overbearing grug brow, which is an instakill on moid attractiveness for both eye types. What's more important is eyelashes. When
>>2372565 says 'psychopathic Finnish' eyes, I
think I know what nonna means, but it's not the positive canthal tilt. I think it's the sparse, pale eyelashes. I would prefer blond hair on moids if it didn't mean they were walking around with pig eyes. Maybe if they wore mascara kek.
It's crazy that moids are cutting their eyelashes when long, thick eyelashes are always attractive, and ironically more typical of males. Just goes to show the intent in moid aesthetic choices is plain ole ugliness. The only downside is it usually means they have a lot of body hair as well.
No. 2372905
>>2372336>>2372342>>2372447If you genuinely believe that being molested determines a person's sexuality as an adult, you're fucking retarded. There are plenty of straight men who have testified about being sexually abused by men as kids, and there are lesbians who were sexually abused by men in childhood. Being molested is fucking traumatic, it doesn't make you attracted to your abuser you absolute reprobates.
A take this retarded would've gotten you redtexted five years ago. This site has completely gone to hell. Anons can say whatever deranged, unscientific nonsense they want to as long as they pretend to justify it with manhate. I honestly doubt you're actually a lesbian, you're probably just lying to deflect being criticized for homophobia. Lesbianism is not "based," it's an innate quality a woman has, not a social statement like you seem to think it is. I've seen anons on this site gush about how great they think lesbians are only to treat lesbianons like shit the second they violate their narrow moral standards. I don't know what the fuck you guys think you are, but it's sure as shit not "feminists."
No. 2372912
>>2372877Young males, nona. Thick eyelashes are more typical of young males, as are thick scalp hair and thick skin. The male endocrine system and genetics are built for rapid growth and rapid decline, which is reflected first and foremost in fast turnover tissues (blood, gut lining, skin, hair). Male stem cells in these tissues differentiate faster, resulting in faster hair growth and faster skin turnover, producing a typical "prime" male look you have in mind. Male skin even heals faster via more pronounced scarring and collagen production (via sexual dimorphism in tgf-b1 expression). The crashing-at-full speed before 30 type of walling that women can only experience after menopause is a reflection of how early and short their prime evolved to be.
The eyelash-cutting and head-shaving is less about reducing perceived femininity and more about softening the blow of male-typical aging - you're not going to feel that decline as acutely if you deliberately remove the contrast between prime you and walled you.
No. 2373158
>>2371914Most men where I live have curly hair and it still looks thin and shitty
>>2372704Definitely. Men will tell you they appreciate women who make the first move and chase after them but it's a lie, they'll just take you for granted and prefer to chase someone else who seems more unavailable
No. 2373317
>>2372905Not any of those anons, and I wouldn't normally call myself a feminist either as the term has lost any meaning that is useful in 2025. Women and men will call themselves feminist and support pornography, prostitution, surrogacy, transgender ideology, etc. I might say 'radfem' since people are a little more familiar with that but it isn't accurate either. I agree though that the foundation of feminism is built on a root ideology that preemptively necessitates our interests in the uplifting of other groups oppressed by white patriarchy. But if I am being honest, I don't care about the racism
POC moids face when they victimize women of their own race more than other moids, and I don't care about the homophobia gay moids face when they nevertheless exploit women either. A new branch of feminism will inevitably evolve, because no ideology is static if it's alive. 'You're not a real feminist', that's the same shit I hear from people who want to subjugate women when you criticize any woman's shitty, anti-woman choices (like e-whoring).
No one is arguing that being sexually assaulted isn't traumatic, and it's very fucking weird that you assert some moral obligation on
victims to remain psychologically intact after their abuse. In your words, 'not attracted to their abusers'. But sexual exposure
does alter sexuality and the way you think about it, especially in formative years, surprise surprise, and moids are extremely sexually suggestible. A less controversial look into this is pornography usage and it's effect on male sexuality in general, not just homosexuality.
The first conceit is you think there is some gay gene or a set of gay genes that make you innately gay, and somehow these genes are the same in both females and males, when we are different sexes and there's no reason to think the way homosexual behaviors will manifest in either sex the same.
>>2373093I don't know if I entirely agree with some of the concepts in this study, because the way they determine 'nascent same-sex orientation' is through a correlation with gender nonconforming behavior, which they admit isn't much to go by, as if gender is an indication of sexual orientation (or that gender exists in the first place). This almost implies that all lesbians are dykes and all fags are flamers, at least when they're children and that's why they were targeted for sexual exploitation (this is an alternative explanation to 'moids rape gayness into other moids'). And you can somehow determine this when they are young. But that doesn't mean useful data can't be gleaned from this, because if you keep reading, you'd see this:
>"Effects of sexual abuse on men’s sexual orientation were substantially larger than on women’s."This suggests that male and female homosexuality (and sexuality in general) are not interchangeable, and probably not even analogous. It should be obvious, because males and females are not the same. We're not even attracted to the same thing. I hate that I get lumped in with gay moids simply because we are both attracted to the same sex and therefore must share an identity somehow. The attraction I feel for women is not whatever tf I hear gay moids say they feel for other moids. It reminds me of how 'lesbian' MTFs trannies are totally akshual lesbians u gaiz!1!! Or even what straight moids feel for women, and this is a better comparison since straight moids and lesbians are both attracted to women. The difference in how this attraction manifests behaviorally is notable, moids are extremely predatory towards females they want to have sex with, unlike most lesbians. Why would this predatory behavior change if moids were instead attracted to other moids? And more importantly, why should we believe the cause is the same when the outcomes of abuse are different? Not only do moids who are sexually abused identify as homosexual later in life but also
>"sexual abuse, perpetrated primarily by men, causes boys to believe they are homosexual, sexual abuse of girls by male perpetrators causes victims to be aversive to sexual relationships with men"This should tell you that one, you can call it 'manhate' disparagingly, whatever, but they could only really find significant data on
victims of male pedophiles, which should say enough in itself about moid sexuality in comparison to female sexuality, and two, females and males have a different reaction to sexual experiences, consensual or otherwise.
The one thing I will give you is that I am skeptical of political lesbians and I don't know how viable a long term relationship would be with them. I don't really want to have sex with someone who isn't sexually attracted to me. I would feel too creepy and always doubt. I have a similar opinion on bisexual women, but I trust political lesbians more because they seem more 'honest'. I don't mean to shit on either, it's just how I feel. However, I
completely understand why some women would opt for political lesbianism. Looking at this thread, it's very bleak out there kek. Though I would rather they just go 4B or something like that and stay out of our dating pool.
No. 2373358
>>2372600I’m 22 soon. I only want and search for good looking man. I am choosy and I find scrotes unfulfilling, but I am straight. I just want eye candy kek.
I’ve gone out a couple of times and the men I’ve gone out with were all handsome and fit. It’s nice to have something to look at and touch and it’s fun going on dates , the romance you have the first months is awesome, so I just tend to see someone for two months max and then dip to the next one.
I don’t see why women should waste time with ogres, especially when you are young. Get yourself that pretty boy, because beauty is the only thing they got going on for them.
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I miss when we were sperging about hockey and wrestling instead of child molestation. Can we go back to that?
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>>2373358The last one I went out with kind of looked like picrel, but he had more freckles and shorter hair.
He lived in Milan so it was just a summer fling and he was going to leave for an Erasmus, but it was fun.
No. 2373381
>>2373370Oh, my sweet nona. It was mentioned upthread, but most hockey players have really unfortunate faces, often accompanied by broken noses, crooked teeth, and hideous facial hair. They are the ultimate butterfaces– gorgeous only from the neck down. The dude in the GIF I posted is considered one of the "prettier" ones, and you can see even he has fucked up teeth.
Honestly? I just like the idea of a big sweet dumb guy with a fat ass and a pretty face. But those are in short supply these days.
No. 2373397
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What sports produce the hottest moids? Formula 1 seems to produce a higher amount than usual, not sure what causes that
>>2373370Hockey players usually have broken noses and missing teeth, so the attractive ones stand out more.
No. 2373399
>>2373344Same. My standards:
>never paid for sex or committed a sex crime>seldom looks at porn>good hygiene>not a chauvinist but not a creepy "male feminist" either>skinny or lean>reasonably attractive face>somewhat shy>no kids or past divorces>vanilla>no personality disorders>employedAt age 26, this stuff is
really not much to ask. I meet all of the non-male-specific criteria here myself (save for the attractive face one, that's subjective). Fucking ridiculous that men with these basic qualities are so rare when the average woman my age easily meets all of these standards.
No. 2373443
>>2372600I can't really give dating advice, but you can clock a porn addicted moid by their 'humor'. If they joke about sex and especially porn a lot, they aren't really joking, that's what they're thinking about and are either testing your boundaries or they are so addicted they are oblivious to how this would actually come off to a real woman. The more extreme the sex acts and fetishes they joke about are, the more exposed they have been to porn overall, and they don't fully realize how abnormal they are since they're desensitized by it. The extremity suggests they have gone deep enough into the pornography rabbit hole to be exposed to the less mainstream stuff, and are likely addicted to porn even if they don't masturbate to whatever extreme kinks they brought up in jest. More extreme porn is being normalized all the time on mass, yes, but there's still some kinks that you have to be browsing for a while to start seeing regularly, and regularly enough that you feel it's okay to bring up, to a woman nonetheless, even as just a comedic tidbit.
Besides actual references to porn, I think there's things that serve as proxy to how susceptible a moid might be to porn addiction.
I wouldn't trust moids who are into anime as a rule of thumb, even if you like anime yourself. There's an extremely high likelihood he jacks it to hentai and will compare you to cartoon characters. Some animes are safer than others (like extremely mainstream shonen everyone knows or sports animes), not that they won't have other issues, but they are less likely to be porn addicted than if they are a regular anime enthusiast. They still might be though, so maybe just avoid them outright if they mention anime. I would also say vidya as well, specifically if they devote a lot of time into this 'hobby'. It's often a sign he'll waste time and effort on more passive, consumer pastimes that simulate a fantasy than his actual life, much like porn. I think it's also something you can just
see in moids, since porn is such a passive activity where one indulges themselves with something someone else created as entertainment, instead of actually going out and having sex himself. That takes considerably more effort. Moids who are most susceptible to porn addiction are going to be the ones who can't bother with a lot of effort in their real life and resort to fantasy or even prefer it, so you can see this lack of effort in how they present themselves. They'll lack physical fitness, they don't take care of their hygiene, they don't care about how they dress in public, etc. This isn't to say that fit moids don't use porn or can't become addicted it, or that moids who play the occasional vidya or whatever are always porn addicts, but there's signs that a moid will be more likely to fall into this addiction more than other moids. It doesn't actually correlate to sex drive, just whatever gives them that low-effort high, and then they need more and more of it to feel ecstatic again. A more attractive moid doesn't have to use porn as often because getting that high from sex is pretty easy for them, and they probably prefer real, tangible experiences to imagined, fantasy ones. They are more likely to be interested in physical acts in reality, and it's not just sex, but probably other hobbies that might require them to be fitter, like hiking or climbing for example. Higher commitment hobbies, like the kind that require travel, also leave less room and privacy for porn addiction as well.
You can weed a lot of them out by simply refusing to date ugly moids.
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>>2373415Sometimes they do. Sometimes they just look like this. I use to think swimmer bods were the key to the ideal moid physique, but Michael Phelps just looks like that wide Kylo Ren meme, and he was a top performer. It's probably truer in younger swimmoids, who haven't had their skeletal structure warped with age's Photoshop liquify tool.
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>>2373397Rugby players for their bodies, but there are a lot of butterfaces.
>racemoidsDon't. They all have small dicks and little egos which is why they drive fast cars, also, control freaks. I can tell the picrel you posted is working with a 3 inch shrimper.
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>>2373397No clue, it might be easier to say which sport produces the
ugliest moids and work from worst to least bad. I would say sumo, but it feels like such a cheap answer.
Besides that, the first thing I think of is powerlifting, strongman, and other strength-based sports. I've also met a lot of moids who would compensate for their obesity by pointing at these kinds of athletes and going, "well akshually I'm strong, this is what strength looks like!"
Of course every moid who used this excuse for himself were rarely interested in strength sports in reality or were only small-timers if they did compete
at best, but it provides a good cope for their unattractiveness. If I am chatting with a moid online and he mentions powerlifting, I already know the kind of insecure fatty he's gonna be.
No. 2373489
>>2369208It's interesting once you start thinking about your ideal physical qualities in a male. Before I was "blackpilled", "feminist" or had any awareness or interest in the subject, I never had any conscious awareness of the fact that my ideal basically never looked older than 21 or so. At the time I didn't realize it, nor was I even consistently able to tell which traits are associated with age besides wrinkles and gray hair - it's only in retrospect that I am able to observe that I've never considered a single male in his late 20s (let alone past 30) attractive. Simultaneously, I perceived myself as devoid of age bias and didn't understand that the traits I was solely attracted to couldn't exist in a male over 25.
I would be surprised if this experience wasn't fairly typical in women. Very few will be able to articulate that in practice they're only attracted to young men because that "discourse" simply doesn't exist in their heads yet. They'll just say the standard canned response about wanting an older reliable man, or not caring about age, etc.
No. 2373492
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>>2373425IIRC formula 1 has a higher proportion of female fans compared to other sports, there is a pressure on the scrotes to be not be hideous. Maybe not so much anymore, looked up formula 1 racers and got this guy (he was kinda cute before he hit the wall)
No. 2373499
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>>2373492nta but i’ve always thought verstappen was okay, although he looks like he has FAS
No. 2373503
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>>2373397Baseball. Shohei Ohtani's pretty cute.
>>2373484Obviously sumo produces the ugliest moids.
No. 2373507
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>>2373459Why do they all look gay
>>2373397There was a japanese volleyball moid who I liked to watch. Honestly there are many sports that produce attractive male bodies but then they fuck it up by wearing ratty beards or not washing thier faces. Variations of this haircut are all too common in sports, its so ugly
No. 2373509
>>2373499Ban piggers from having curly hair NOW. Messy, effeminate and chidlish.
>>2373503Is this bait? He looks like a fatter asmongold. Egg faced fatty
No. 2373515
>>2373503BASEBALL??? Ohtani aside most of them are uggo and out of shape. Most baseball players look like they work at the gas station… Sorry anon but that response really bewilders me.
>>2373397Tennis
No. 2373523
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>>2373499KEK samefag and this isnt verstappen, that’s the only name i know. he’s not terrible but he looks kinda retarded and like he never fully developed
No. 2373532
>>2373523Racially confusing. Is he white? His nipples are so dark they actually look necrotic.
>>2373515I went a baseball game once, and not only did every moid there look like an average skinnyfat 40 yr old rando, it was boring as fuck. Sports like MMA are filled with hideous men, but at least it's fun to see them beat each other up. I've never been less amused at a sports event.
No. 2373537
>>2373443I agree with this post so much, as someone who's been around male weebs. They talked about their fetishes constantly and tried to make unfunny jokes about them, called any older woman a hag or a milf, would reference porn in unrelated conversations, compared me and other women to anime characters, and all sorts of other retardation. I thought the exact same thing about how these types of males are desensitized, they genuinely think you're a prude for calling them out or just straight up feeling uncomfortable by these things kek, as if they aren't the weirdos to any actually normal person or even less deranged autists. Even as a female weeb I was just put off by their bullshit and they're all ugly and terrible, completely bottom of the barrel specimens. It's like they're stuck in their echo chambers with other equally pornbrained males, encouraging each others's degeneracy all day long and so much that they completely lose touch with reality and what's normal or not, so they get shocked when they interact with a normal woman who is grossed out by that and try to act like she's the weird one if she isn't laughing at how much they want to rape lolis or something. It really exposes how little they interact with women outside of pornography and pick me egirls they follow on social media, because when they interact with a woman who isn't a massive pornbrained pick me they just double down instead of looking inwards and realizing they're being creepy weirdos. They either have absolutely 0 concept of how to not come off as disgusting to a woman or simply don't care and forcibly want women to accept their degeneracy since they've been so conditioned to believe it's normal and if a woman is 'based' enough, she'll accept them for who they are or even be a degenerate herself. And I agree if a guy is just into shounen and sports anime and not deeper into the moe side he's less likely to be this type, I know some other guys like that and they're usually more normal and actually have gfs, while the other types just sit on discord all day whining about how they wish they had their petite asian waifu fall from the sky. Or just act completely uninterested in real women due to their passiveness to actually get sex irl as you described. It definitely reflects on their looks too, they're usually fat, unshaved, have no fashion sense and are balding.
No. 2373548
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>>2373532apparently he’s just belgian & english, but theres a lot of discussion about his race online.
>>2373539that SK netflix show physical 100 was nice eye-candy
No. 2373549
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>>2373492If I had to speculate, it's because F1 is a twinkfest. They're not especially hot or anything, just very young at debut (nowadays) and always sporting slim physiques throughout their careers.
Also iirc Verstappen's wife is 10 years older than him
No. 2373556
>>2373535She said he was shit
in bed not that he shat the bed anon kek
No. 2373598
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>>2373397Soccer, but only sometimes. They are usually mid or ugly
No. 2373603
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>>2373584>>2373586>>2373595i was just answering lol. i don’t care how old they are or if anons think they’re hot or cute or whatever the fuck. as an f1fag, i don’t like either of them
No. 2373614
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>>2373548some of the moids on P100 were handsome but a lot of them are massive babies and roided out of their minds. east asian athletic men get the benefit of having more youthful looking faces, so they’re usually nicer to look at.
No. 2373632
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>>2373602>names 2 white guysyea…. not what im talking about
No. 2373640
>>2373614I'm not even racist but I simply can't find east asian men attractive, ever. Maybe because they're too foreign looking with rounded features.
>>237361918-19 year olds are the OPPOSITE of twinks. Which 29 year old haggot convinced you the demographic with the most testosterone and ability to grow muscle mass is effeminate? Think ya stupid bastard, think.
No. 2373656
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>>2373640>Maybe because they're too foreign looking with rounded features. ayrt and i’ve only ever found EA men attractive if they have very defined features and/or look more euro. the average scrote on the show i posted looks like your avg EA dweeby looking man just shot the fuck up full of T kek
No. 2373661
>>2373652i’m
>>2373584 and i see your point with the barely legal comment, but you came in saying
>one of them is 19!!>an 18 year old too, but he hasn’t been posted No. 2373663
>>2373657They don't even lock in, their mothers choose their haircut at age 3 and it remains that way until their hair falls out.
>>2373659>aging in inherently feminine But women age slower than males. Everything about ageing targets males way harder than it does women. Balding, sheer testosterone drop, early death, bloat, the wall, etc
No. 2373701
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I killed my mobile data trying to post the whole video but the stupid fucking cow website couldn't handle it. Anyway rugby scrote ass meat is peak
No. 2373702
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>>2373690>joe rogan was actuallya twink?!
No. 2373718
>>2373715he had the groundwork for a good face, he looks handsome in picrel to me, but it went awry when he hit the wall (which hit
hard and
fast)
No. 2373721
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>>2373718Uhhhmmm are you a faggot pedo??
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>>2373604Yeah more than 1/4 of murderers in the UK are teenagers. We need to stop babying scrotes, the average 16 year old scrote is bustling with testosterone and can easily overpower rape and kill a grown woman.
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>>2373749>can we stop using the word twink to refer to men in their prime who take care of themselves? kek the amount of times I've seen Leon Kennedy be called a twink by both men and women is astonishing.
No. 2373773
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>>2373397hamilton's entire career is as legit as his hair. same goes for vettel. there's about 3 conventionally attractive moids in there currently.
No. 2373799
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>>2373640Qt androgynous asian guys are my typ
No. 2374142
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>>2373503It pisses me off baseball players are so average because their uniforms are the hottest. The all have beards nowadays too, ugh.