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As the title says.
Post experiences, why you can't stand them and such.
This is NOT about your own disorder, so don't blogpost/vent, there's already a thread for that.
This thread is about mental illness you can't stand in others.
Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you OR to defend a specific disorder because "[thing] people are actually etc etc" because seeing patterns is not illegal. If your disorder gets posted here, cope and hide the thread, don't be a little bitch.
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>>>/ot/1470488 No. 2312259
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Maybe I'm going insane and I know that stress being a key factor in some illnesses can actually harm the body but I hate that type of mental illness (Munchie? Malingerer? Narc?) that makes people fake conditions that had to be there since being born and now they're randomly appearing and somehow people are ok with that, I call it the modern quiet hysteria.
For ex. everyone now claims to be ADHD but to have it, you have to had symptoms since childhood! People are not adhd randomly or just because they fry their brains on tiktok doomscroolling, it's impossible to be a "gifted child" and now being unable to do basic shit but what really grinds my gears are physical conditions that come from trauma. Stress can break down a person, I fucking well know that, stress can make you develop pots but I wonder why the fuck are fakers faking ehlers danlos? To act like the fragile angel better? To have sympathy? And why are these symptoms strangely convenient?
I have ehlers danlos but you cannot develop it due to trauma, trauma doesn't fuck up your connective tissue and muscles but most importantly, unless is wheelchair-bound type of pain, it's not that serious and at the same time, not that easy to live with. Since I was a kid, my joint dislocated easily and my hands frequently got stuck and it was extremely painful but once that was took care of, it was gone. It's not possible to have "dystonia attacks", you always have it, period, and what baffles me it's how clear this is to me but people take a faker's word for granted and nod. Like? It's not that big of a deal, if you manage it and yet I see people that can barely roll their tongue call it "hypermobility" and claim to be disabled. Fuck that.
Kinda unrelated for this, I think that this bitch is faking or making everything bigger than it is. Tourettes, absence seizures and stuff, I can't stand malingerers, I hope they actually get the illness that they oh so love.
No. 2312430
>>2312259My tinfoil is that autism and ADHD became more popular because of… concerned moms? Soccer moms? Karen moms? Idk, you will get the idea.
Some kids are just not the brightest, that's just how they are, but some parents can't be content that being a loud and lazy fuck (at worst; at best, the kid is just not a child prodigy, so, a normal kid) is an inate part of the kid's personality, since they really want a kid genius.
So, they seek out ADHD or autism diagnosis, since it means that the kid can be "fixed" and his/her true potential can be unlocked.
Well, it's not the biggest part, but I think an important one too.
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Bippies love reshaping their own disorders until it means nothing over and over. It's like claiming the new autism while forgetting what the original diagnosis actually is. DID fakerinos will kill to not be considered bippies because it will mean not having cool ocs while bippies want them so bad to justify their mood disruption lol
I've also seen bippies claim to be neurodivergent like which part of personality disorder isn't clear? You can't cure neurodivergency, you can manage it but you can cure a personality disorder with enough talk therapy and coping mechanisms. You can't cure autism by talking and working on trauma response.
No. 2312581
>>2312578Let's say that DID is just over dramatic BPD. They are on different step of the same label but I always find it funny how supposed bippies (most likely self diagnosed) try to insert themselves into many other definitions, like being neurodivergent, because they know the stigma of being bpd and they're not totally like that guize!!!
Yet they cannot comprehend why it's such a shitty disorder with a shittier, well earned reputation.
No. 2312641
>>2312631"No sense of self" doesn't mean that bippies don't experience selves at all. If you go into bippie
victims support communities, everyone will tell how their partner switched personalities once the relationship settled in, "splitting" is the same as "switching". Different styles of attachment doesn't mean shit tbh, it's all about muh twauma and it's both present. DID is not real in the core, meaning that our brain cannot store more than one person, it's just heavy voluntary dissociation with made up characters, who are still part of one and surely not drastically different persons to cope with responsibility. They're the same, just on different levels of dramatization. It's like being stuck at a children phase when you make up imaginary friends to cope and being emotionally stunted is also present in bpd. They overlap creepily but we're not here to discuss the legitimacy of the disorder rather than the ones who suffer from it.
No. 2312668
>>2312574but personality disorders
aren't curable, nona… they can be managed with dedicated commitment to treatment and learning how to healthily cope, at best. That said, DID is utter bullshit for most of the population claiming they have it. It's for bored LARPers who would be better suited taking up acting classes and theater since they love being a variety of main characters.
No. 2312676
>>2312430I agree, a big part of it is parents who won't relax and let kids be dumb kids instead of hyperfunctioning perfect mini-adults. A lot of kids grow out of being disorganized and flaky. You just have to give them patience.
Another huge part of why "autism and ADHD" are more popular is because grown-ass people have a misconception about life. When people reach adulthood, they have unrealistic expectations of themselves and wonder all the time why they can't be super successful. Honestly, it's hard for ANYONE to be super successful. But they blame themselves and not our fucked up culture that demands perfection and constant hard work. One good friend of mine went on a high dosage of Adderall and told me, "I finally feel what it's like to be a normal functioning person!" I don't actually believe that. The uppers just make her a turbo version of herself. She only thinks she's "normal now" because she had a warped view of how people get by in the world. We're ALL struggling.
The part I can't stand is when people do it for attention and excuses. It's been hard in the last few years when some friends/coworkers started drinking the tik tok kool aid and figured out that if they claim ADHD or autism they can get away with acting selfish, insensitive, and overly emotional – making themselves other people's problem – without any consequences, or anyone questioning it. Without anyone encouraging them to do better.
No. 2313668
>>2312996Nta but that's what you're misunderstanding about the DSM. The DSM doesn't say there's more than 1 person, it states that it's just 1 person split into parts. That's why there's memory fog, repressed memories/emotional parts and other typical trauma shit.
Of course if you think there's multiple whole people in there then that's not did.
No. 2313744
>>2313674i feel like that’s just what
abusive men say they’re like
No. 2313758
>>2313674Nta but possibly an abuuusor man because I feel very comfortable saying ABPDALT (all bpd are like that). Something a lot of women who don't have personality disorders can't comprehend is that BPDs will lie about abuse or SA because the idea of doing that sounds
so completely moid-brained and unfathomable to them. Until you've dealt with multiple BPDs directly and become changed and jaded forever, because you recognize the identical patterns and behavior in all of them.
No. 2313763
>>2313760I'm performing moidness to agree with
>>2313674 but I've also been accused of gaslighting by the BPDs I'm thinking of who accuse all of their previous partners of rape, so it's funny you brought that up
No. 2313765
>>2313763like what was the story how did ALL of them sa her though.
victims are likely to be revictimized. especially people with personality disorders who end up isolated because of their behavior.
No. 2313772
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>>2313765picrel + therapy + meds?
I don't understand the difference between a BPD and an incel who blame women and ~society~ for all their problems. They create and live in a world of misery but still expect sympathy and admiration (somehow simultaneously). It's also a personality disorder. I don't feel bad for psychopaths or other cluster b's, why would I advocate for women who are constantly manipulating other women and retraumatizing themselves? 99% of the time, they're pick-mes who will throw you under the bus for a moid but expect you to drop everything and rush to save/comfort them after this week's soul mate has done something unforgivable. It's exhausting and no amount of emotional support is enough (or even acknowledged).
No. 2313783
>>2313780Everyone has trauma. People choose to be emotional vampires, lie about SA (discrediting actual
victims) and manipulate everyone around them by rewriting history to suit their emotions and ever-changing personal narratives. That's what makes BPDs notorious and why their
victims share an unspoken bond. It's all so similar everywhere, no one really feels the need to justify or explain themselves anymore. At least I don't!
No. 2313791
>>2313783look i’ve had a horrible experience with a bpd friend, she literally threatened me. but i do believe she was molested. like yeah that makes sense why you’re into ddlg i have to stop being friends with you now because you’re making me uncomfortable but i can see how that fucked you up. i wouldn’t call myself a
victim of hers. she sucked but like. chill. did one of them like attack you how did this crazy girl traumatize you lol
No. 2313797
>>2313791This post
>>2313778 was encouraging you to spend more time with BPDs, if you think people like me are gaslighting for moids or making it up. I don't know your friend so can't comment but one of the most awful aspects of dealing with a BPD is that you begin to doubt things that you would never imagine someone would or
could lie about. That's all I really have to say about it,
nonnie.
No. 2313808
>>2313804there was literally just a female school shooter who only killed women so honestly it’s hard to pretend that there isn’t some evil woman out there making rape
victims look like liars. i never would have thought someone would fake being kidnapped and two women made the news about it recently. i also trust you more because this isn’t exactly manlovers.net
No. 2313997
>>2313668That's clearly not the case. The DSM contradicts itself in saying "parts of self" and then it says that "parts are distinct from each other", if they are parts, they are not distinct. If what you were saying was true and legit, why are alters a thing? "Blacking out" and then blaming someone else is not having other parts. I know that not even the word "alter" appears in the DSM but the definition contradicts itself. They're part of the same, yet patients dont have to remember. Part of the same, yet people blame others. Just like bippies who split and then blame the
victim. The only difference in DID and BPD is the blame target, otherwise they're the exact same.
DID is "I did a despicable thing but it wasn't me!!' while BPD is "I did a despicable thing and you made me do it!"
Heavy dissociation is present in both.
No. 2314083
>>2314058What even is a true case of DID? Even the most famous ones are bogus
Let's put Sybil to the side, that bitch admitted it was all fake, Kim the painter? Then you are not referring to a legit case, because she claims to have other "people". Billy Milligan? That fucker claimed to have a fuckton of people that knew different languages that he didn't study and women alters and if what are you saying is true, how the fuck did he have "woman" parts? That's like falling in troon logic. What even is a true case, to you?
Do not look into the DSM definition of DID, look out the people who are claiming to suffer from it, it's fancy BPD. If we were to judge bippies from the DSM, then we would all agree that they're just "broken people who just want to love and are afraid to be left alone sad big puppy emoji" when in reality they're controlling beasts that live in constant paranoia and act out their mental fantasy instead of living in the real world and make your life hell if you don't fit their script.
No. 2314148
>>2314100Are you talking about the "programming abuse" from the very famous bogus book "Those weren't butterflies"? Then, again, you are bringing contradictory examples. Programming abuse is real as the satanic panic. The "programming abuse" talks about breaking achild down to force out other roles and yes that's trauma, no those are not identities, it's still a child, but can you name me a case? A single, legit case? Programming abuse theory talks about forcing a child to imagine things or call themselves a certain way so they are basically gaslit and won't tell adults/authorities legit stuff and their witnessing reports would look so imaginary and fantastical, that they wouldn't be considered a reliable source. It's heavy gaslighting also csa? You can spell words here, sexually abuse children yes, they develop a barrier in between themselves and the trauma but it's more swiping it under to rug to avoid trouble. Children know that shit happened to them, but most of the times abuse is perpetuated in families and they wont' speak to not to make the parents angry (for ex. father hitting them - since it's 99% by piece of shit fathers and stepfathers to stick their dick where they shouldn't or threathening homelessness or killing the mom, or unstable mom accusing the child of lying so they could get away from them - saw that irl, I work with this shit), children know that this shit happened but adults tell them that something bad will happen if they tell anyone, look up how child abucting
victims were told that the abducter would kill their family or their family abandoned them. Children KNOW. They often go to their happy place because they're children, but they don't split themselves into "identities", they split the world around them. Do some research instead of talking in fancy bookese.
No. 2314157
>>2314148Never heard of that book title either and had to google that.
>Programming abuse is real as the satanic panic.Kek that's like sweeping government organisation abuse under the rug because nobody came out about it and nobody was ever charged so it mustn't have happened at all. Shit like mk-ultra or the like.
And if children always remember everything that happened to them then why do many CSA
victims, DID claimers or no, report having very little memory to none of it? The brain forgets shit to protect itself in daily life, it's not rocket science.
No. 2314278
>>2312996>>2312999it's called identity disorder because the issue lies within the person, they perceive themselves this way / they think they have more than one self. That's the whole thing about this disorder and why it is a disorder. Yes, it usually starts with imaginary friends in childhood. If this coping mechanism is used often enough (in childhood, because of traumatic experience and being dissociative) it becomes a force of itself / the patient believes it because they have to. You didn't really think alters exist as different selves in one person?
Dissociation is a survival mechanism (usually
triggered close to death). DID is just the extreme end of PTSD+dissociation. It's really not that hard or complex. Not every person with PTSD has dissociation for example.
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>>2314083I wouldn't read any biographies of 'famous people' tbh, I'd rather read from professional sources. Katy Steele has articles like pic rel.
The cause is CSA, neglet, abuse etc, often all of them, from a young age to teenage or some cases adulthood.
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AuDHD havers, this faggot from Instagram in particular
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>how it feels being neuroconvergent in 2024(bait/ai slop outside of containment)
No. 2316492
>>2316485My bad I'm sorry, gonna post something relevant to make up for my dumb bitch moment
I'm sick and tired of how some try to defend BPD people nowadays (especially on social media). We all know someone who has a story about an obsessive BPD ex or a BPD friend who's mean and aggressive, and while I get that they suffer from the disorder, the way they get coddled while draining others feels insulting to those who have to deal with their bullshit. I'm not sure whether it's even possible to demand someone with BPD control themselves (maybe it's like telling someone with anxiety to "just stop worrying") but while I know they can't help their feelings, it doesn't mean they get to take it out on others.
>>2313758 and
>>2313778 are spot on.
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Self-proclaimed "empaths". I understand most were victims of narcissistic abuse and probably cope but after a while they become just as bad or at least almost as bad as the narcs. PDs get passed onto victims. Wow, Jan, you're such an empath for falsely assuming someone was feeling a certain way and using that to police them. Why are they so obsessed with finding narcissists everywhere? Their mom is a narc, their dad is a narc, their best friends are narcs. The person in their class who didn't want to hear their drama and was trying to pay attention to the professor was supposedly stonewalling and being a narc. Their own children are now narcs because they set boundaries and didn't really like a gift they got them. It's crazy.
No. 2317490
>>2317483Don't they not live long though? They usually tend to have fucked up immune systems.
>But they're like little angels!>They're so cute and bring so much joy!Do normies actually believe this or is this a live laugh love cope? I genuinely cannot see the former. Sure they're a little angel when they smile at you for the first time in forever after you clean up their shit smeared on the walls.
No. 2317952
>>2317483If I had a child like this, I would abandon them at the first sign of heavy mental retardation. They are a curse to the family due to them being loud as shit, forcing someone to not to work so they can become the caregiver, dirty diapers, being hit…and there's not a human soul in that body. I believe that soul is coscience and they have none. Just because they smile at positive stimuli doesn't mean that they're there, in fact it's a basic neuron response but oh well.
>>2316649The shitty thing about bdp tiffanies is that troonerism satisfies their need of attention and sense of community and identity. The problem of being alone and without a self gets satisfaction from troonerism because it gives you an identity and people coddling you. It's hell and it becomes a death trap, detrans people are seen as traitors because it's like a divorce for them kek because they don't reflect on themselves but rather how others makes them feel so here you go, troonism and other attention seeking behviours.
No. 2318547
>>2317667Telling bdp-havers what you (and other people) REALLY think about their behaviour would genuinely be the best way for them to actually think about other people for once. Perhaps not saying THE worst shit possible, but being harsh and truthful would go a long way.
That's the sad thing, though… knowing how they react to any semblance of mean words, no wonder people would rather coddle them than say the truth.
No. 2319062
>>2314083The thing about DID isn't that there's multiple selves, it's that you're literally a broken person. It's not like BPD where you take on the identity of others to be liked, you have your own developed identity with DID but because you faced so much abuse as a child, it fragmented to best suit whatever abuse you were facing, which does sound like BPD, but it's still slightly different. Like if you were in a situation meeting someone new with BPD you needed to impress, you'd try to camouflage with clues you picked up in the moment, but with DID, you may take the form of your most prominent abuser in childhood who instilled into you that unless you are exactly the way they want you to be, you are less than garbage. With DID, you have less of a will to fight back as fighting back is often dangerous and leads to worse abuse, whereas with BPD you learned you can at least sometimes get your way with enough screaming and crying. I'm willing to bet that dude's "woman" alter was just his brain storing either an abuser or someone who was extremely kind to him during a difficult period. The human brain is extremely strange and hitting it in the wrong way can cause an extreme personality shift, so I'm not sure why people want so badly to believe something like this is impossible.
>inb4 physical trauma and mental trauma is different!It is different, yes, but it's also proven that the brain perceives extreme emotional stress similarly to physical trauma, as well as the fact that with enough mental stress, the brain can begin to prematurely shrink. To be honest anon, you sound like the type of person who is too simple minded to believe in things you can't see. A lot of people with DID don't even know they have it, like the other anon said they would probably just come off as an extremely anxious person if you met them irl. If an normie instagram influencer isn't a good representation of what it's like to be a regular woman, then why should we accept bpdchans on tiktok saying they have DID for attention as representation of the reality of DID?
No. 2319310
>>2319220Because it doesn't have to be
triggered by other people. It can just be
triggered by being alone and letting your mind wander too far, causing you to dissociate. Instead of being a mask intended to fit in with certain people/groups, these are preset masks unique to you and your own experience as a person, and they do not change, and contrary to what tiktok would have you believe, they all serve an important purpose and new ones are not formed unless completely necessary to survival.
>inb4 dissociation does NOT fucking cause thatMaybe if you gained the coping skill after the required age to from DID, but as a young child where you're being helicoptered all the time to make sure you don't accidentally kill yourself via idiot child brain not realizing sticking your hand in a socket means electrocution or something, you always had to be mentally present. "this isn't happening to me right now, this is happening to someone else!" or "my imaginary friend is here to help me through it!" is the basis for DID.
>inb4 that's still a fucking mask you dipshitIt's an involuntary mask that causes the sufferer great distress once it's realized that's what's happening. The reason you never hear about DID cases that don't sound extremely fake is because DID is a covert disorder meant to mentally protect the sufferer from severe trauma they can't handle. Discovery of the disorder normally throws a wrench in said coping mechanism. It's usually only discovered once the memory loss becomes too much to ignore.
No. 2319435
>>2319062But then it could be rename as BPD - Dissociative subtype. BPD people often mimic emotions, they take roles (in the love bombing phase, it's extremely common that they take the shape and mannerism to attract other people) but they don't feel them, in fact feeling emotions for them is what makes them go bonkers so they suppress everything until it's too much. DID doesn't exist in the "oh I have alters" shit, it exist in babying oneself but that's no different than other coping mechanisms. The modern definition of did often focuses too much on the alters and not on the dissociation, like modern BPD focuses too much on the outbursts and not dissociation, they're the same exact disorder, it's like saying that OCD and Pure O are two different diagnosis when the core is the same. It's involutary, but still a mask, the target is different but the basis is there. BPD is categorized as a personality disorder which yes, it is because it eats a person from the inside leaving nothing but a disordered pattern of behaviours while psychs are out there wanting me to believe that DID is not the same? DID is adopting multiple "masks" to cope throught the day and by the very definition, a true, healthy self and personality isn't there, then so it's the same, just a different target, in DID is "This is not happening to me!" while BPD is "This is happening and even if I lash out, everything will be the same as always", that's why they both have a feeling of being trapped and have no sense of self but please, let's not excuse that shit, people with no personality are always creepy as fuck and blame shifting and DID is no exception. I'm not saying that DID is impossible, it's just a slight variation of an already existing disorder that doesn't deserve their own special place.
>"DID is when the memory loss is too much"Almost all people with BPD don't remember shit in their outbursts and often blame other people if they are being faced with consequences. BPD people can insult you and go "lmao gomen, that was not that bad right? Right?? I'm a sweet baby! I can't do that!" and while you're here wondering who the fuck was that person than was saying sweet words but being a demon the day after, they just go with their day, because the base is the exact same: danger? Let's dissociate and go bonkers in autopilot mode, anything that would make us survive is good. Maybe it would look different on the outside due to the dramatic nature of BPD, but DID is just as destructive and full of blame shifting, not taking responsibility, going all in with emotions and then masking behind a sweet angel baby/sad boy mask. Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2 are different disorders, still bipolar.
No. 2319495
>>2319435nta but BPDs always perceive themselves as one person doing it, they never think about 'someone else' even if they have no sense of self. DIDs have a sense of self, but different ones, that stay the same over time. (and in reality they are one person just believing themselves to be different so the memories and information don't cross)
The modern definition seems to be different where you're living, because what I know is therapists are not focusing on different alters and their differences since this can exacerbate symptoms. The focus lies on bringing 'alters' together, minimizing symptoms over time and eventually coming out as one person in the end, maybe with a simple PTSD or nothing left.
>>2319310>involuntary maskIn the theory of structural dissociation they're called biological action systems.
And they put BPD and DID on a spectrum with PTSD and C-PTSD, so BPD is somewhere between C-PTSD and full on DID.
No. 2319635
>>2319338This is the designated safe space to vent about how much you can't stand people with specific disorders, not to say that their experiences don't exist at all. Make a mental disorder denial thread for that. Nobody here is denying that people with BPD have suffered to get where they are, and DID is formed through even greater suffering and loss of the self through abuse than that. Complain about DID behavior all you want, but consider that DID denial is rooted in parents wanting to deny that CSA could happen to their child, as well as overdramatic serial killer movies.
>>2319435But it's just not BPD. It's not. You can have DID without feeling the extreme emotional mood swings and need to manipulate and control everyone around you because your emotions are too painful. I don't know what about this is so difficult to grasp. Why is it that AVPD and social anxiety are two separate diagnoses? Why is it that schizotypal and autism are two different diagnoses? Why is it that psychosis is not outright seen as schizophrenia in every case? It's because the human brain can have similar maladaptive coping behaviors without presenting every last symptom because it wasn't necessary to survival at the time of development. To call these people BPD when they don't exhibit the emotional style of BPD all because you can't comprehend how something can form similarly but present differently just makes you look mentally slow.
>>2319495Most people with BPD I've known are obsessed with seeming cool and special and very much have a set of interests and values that generally don't leave them, even when they have an FP they're trying to impress. I could very much see this all being on a C-PTSD spectrum, the same way you don't see the autistic woman working at Starbucks while she gets her degree the same way you see an autistic person who can't form complete sentences at age 20.
No. 2320350
>>2320272I know a guy who wanted to get an ADHD diagnosis so his girlfriend wouldn't be so strict with him. Apparently she told him that she would leave him if he got diagnosed. Worked better than stimulants ever could because he changed his tune and is less annoying now.
The only thing that gets through to people, ADHD or no, is tangible and immediate consequences for unacceptable behavior. We'd see a lot less "but muh ADHD" if people just stopped being friends with them after the third time they flake out. "Sorry Jan, but you went awol on plans last weekend… again. I'm only interested in friends who can shoot me a morning text to tell me they can't make it. Good luck with the next one."
No. 2320379
>>2320272I have brain fog from a chronic illness (it’s literal brain damage, not to the extent of TBI but still life changing)
I freeze during conversations, forget certain words, forget things I’ve studied throughly but I can still remember appointments and important days because I learned to worked around my illness by taking notes and keeping records. It definitely makes your life harder but people who dump the load of chores and tasks on their partner are just shitty.
No. 2320409
>>2320272>ADHDers should try harder to remember stuffThey literally can't remember stuff, that's the problem, but they can use calender apps etc to fill in the gaps in what what their brain can't do.
I wish it wasn't the current trendy excuse for lazy people to blame stuff on, I wonder if it will ever stop being like this.
No. 2320473
>>2320272I have one obsessed with me and idk what to do. he says it's love but I think it's limerance. I went no contact but he's still trying to get my attention
I seem to attract people with ADHD despite being neurotypical, but I do not have the patience to deal with these people long term. They want me to be their "rock" and never once consider if I want to be tethered to their chaos (I don't).
>>2320350friends of ADHD are sometimes even worse. they tolerate a lot because they're just friends without expectations of him, and only really deal with the positive aspects of the person most of the time. gives them a false sense of confidence they can be a life partner to just about anybody, but actually there's a small range of people they can be true partners with (usually other neurodivergents). The patience required of a neurotypical to navigate around the ADHD automatically makes it unbalanced and not a true partnership. Some people like the mommy dynamic, but oh God not me
No. 2320520
>>2320272This shit pisses me off so much, I have ADHD and I worked my ass off to become a functioning human. I know that I'm retarded, so I work harder to compensate for it, I have multiple calendars and reminders because I'm shit at remembering things, I have a habit tracker to remind myself to clean my house, it's not like having ADHD is a death sentence. It's an embarrassing condition to have but it's manageable enough now that I don't need to tell anyone about it, I'd kill myself if I used it as an excuse for being unable to wash my clothes or spend money responsibly.
Inb4 muh phone addiction, I'm an oldfag who didn't have a phone until I was 15 and didn't have a smartphone until I was in my 20s. I got diagnosed as an adult and by the time I got my diagnosis I'd already trained myself to be a functioning adult. Lazy fuckers who pretend that being able to turn up to work on time is as impossible as regrowing a leg need to face more actual consequences for their actions, not be coddled for being a sad widdle sped.
No. 2320541
Why is that we can discuss BPD, NPD, bipolar, literally whatever disorder, but when it comes to ADHD and 'tism, you tard have a desire to crawl out and start sperging about "b-but, uh, I'm a good tard! And anyway, you normies are meanie poopoos!"
Literally don't care. STFU.
Anyway, to add to the topic: overtly defensive autismos. We don't talk about you specifically, why the he'll are you acting defensive?
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>>2320632Same
nonny, I have little to no patience for autists. I can’t understand how people just miss social cues and reading emotions that much… people and how they act are very logical. There are patterns to conversations and human behavior. I’m a sped and even I figured this out eventually. Then when they get corrected they get so fucking defensive and act like you’re the one in the wrong when it is literally, factually, 100% on them. It’s so exhausting and I think the main reason so many of them struggle to make friends to be honest.
No. 2320652
>>2320643>>2320647OG anon here and there is absolutely learned helplessness from being coddled which explains why male autists seem so much worse than female autists. It also explains why the few autists I met irl were fine (if sometimes annoying but that's not some unforgivable sin) while I go crazy when I see "normies don't understand us! We're the real gifted unicorns! Normies are the real tards!"
I also think this behaviour is why you have annoying people like Grimes trying to claim autism.
No. 2320658
>>2320652>seem Kek they don't just seem, they
are on like ten different objective scales. All male autists are coddled and any creepy sexpest or boundary breaking behaviour is defended with "awww he's just autistic" while female autists get beaten for their traits as toddlers and told they're unladylike at best. Female autists often end up being male autists' biggest
victims too
No. 2320673
The problem with autists is a trap which many terminally online mentally ill people fall into but for autists it's tenfold worse.
A lot of those people go to online communities that form some sort of social bubbles that basically create an us vs them mentality and let users wallow in their self-pity. People come there for support and understanding, but those places create their own problems.
As I said, with tards it's way worse, since they went so far as to create the whole "neurodiversity" thing (which is fine on itself, I admit) and the whole "autism culture" or whatever, where spergs are left to sperg and any attempt at improvement is met with hostility.
No matter who you are, an autist, bipolar, someone with a personality disorder… getting out of your comfort zone and learning skills is good for YOU. Fitting into the society is good for YOU, since it minimizes conflict and makes life easier. It's not le ebil neurotypicals imposing their will on autists.
Depressed mf are prone to that to. You are depressed? Get help and fix shit. I've dealt with that firsthand, it's better to put at least some effort than do nothing at all and whining how normies "don't get it."
No. 2320747
>>2319495>BPDs always perceive themselves as one person doing it, they never think about 'someone else'this is so untrue. bpdchans generally dont explicitly put things in these words, but they absolutely do view themselves as being automatically absolved from their terrible behaviour because they were sad at the time, or having an episode, or whatever other excuse that means that it wasnt REALLY them. so the person who screamed at you or assaulted you and threatened suicide for absolutely no fucking reason wasn't THEM, it was their bpd, so you cant hold them accountable for what they did to you (important to clarify here that i dont think that bpdchans do this deliberately, at most they might be vaguely aware that theyre in denial but this seems to be a basically automatic pattern of freak out -> abuse whoever is around -> only way out of feeling bad about this and getting caught in a self hatred/self harm spiral is by denying your responsibility for your actions by essentially claiming possession kek).
they are unable to reconcile that a single person can do both good and bad things by definition, and of course this extends to themselves. this is why they cycle through hating themselves (because theyre "bad") and viewing themselves as infallible
victims (because everyone else is "bad"). i genuinely believe that people diagnosed with DID just experience a hypertrophic/exaggerated version of this exact same thing. this is why you often see DID types with a "persecutor" or otherwise freely aggressive "alter".
No. 2320791
>>2320747the main giveaway of the overlapping is that both bpd and both common did (if it even exists, IF) is that they don't have nuance. bippies either are super super happy and that's the personality of the day then you could, idk, drop a cup and they will hate you and tell you that you're the worst, going from 0 to 100 in a matter of seconds, forgetting al l the bad things, you're the devil and then dissociate in a self loathing spiral so you can pity them. Try to confirm a bippies "I'm the worst!!" cry and prepare to see hell. Diddies' alters are the exact same emotions. the happy alter is them being happy, the angry alter is them being angry. They're not personalities nor "identities" because they lack nuance, the mean alters are never good, for example, if they are currently the "bubbly teen girl alter" and the experience sorrow, then the "sadboi alter" comes in because Happy Alter can't be sad, you know? Bippies and diddies rationalize emotions in the same way, for bippies is a constant down spiral, for diddies is "better make up an oc for this emotion because it's not what I currently am"
and that's the core of bpd. Black and white. Good or bad. Splitting. Driving on emotions. For bippies is "It's my illness!", for diddies is "It was[alter] in charge of [emotion]!"and the states of self yes, they are separate, but doesn't mean that they're different. They're separate in the same way of how bpd splitting works, based in dissociation, is literally in the diagnostic criteria. Just because people black out during strong emotions doesn't mean that they're a whole, different person or they can avoid accountability so the identity part of the name is total bullshit.
No. 2321100
>>2320747Blaming their bpd is not the same as thinking of yourself as different selves though? I get what you're saying but they're just shifting blame in those instances, that's what most people with mental illnesses do. But that's despicable either way. If someone is suffering from any mental illness, they should take full responsibility for it, no matter what it is.
>>2320791You're confusing EPs with ANPs in DID. That's why I said further up thread, don't take your understanding of DID from online personas or famous personas.
They may have C-PTSD or something else with 'happy teenager', 'sadboi alter' kek that's just ego states and not full on DID. But at the end all that really matters in knowing the differences are the professionals that treat actual people. Those who help them get better are right after all, because otherwise they wouldn't get better with specific treatment for DID.
No. 2322273
>>2322259You have to realize that what's written in books is very different from how people act irl. What's written in books is only from the mentally ill perspective and not from their loved ones and even psychologists are biased because they hear one side of the story without putting in the whole equation how shit affects others. If we had to take only textbook definitions of mental illnesses, then all bippies are perfect emotional angels that became that way from emotional trauma and that's so bad for the bippie!! When in reality most bippies DO NOT cooperate in therapy, are totally delusional, prone to violence (both physical and psychological) and overall a nightmare to be around. Tracing patterns and talking about experiences is not making shit up, quite the opposite. Just because you love going "erm actually" doesn't mean that people misunderstood an illness, you're putting on the table case studies, we're putting on the table experiences and talking about them. Trauma doesn't make someone innocent (most pedophiles are traumatized or heavily fucked up at birth, try to defend that shit with the same passion and going "well actually pedophiles were abused kids!!", dare you). Nonnies in this thread will likely never meet someone with DID, neither will most psychologists Who know their shit,but the new people who are getting dx'd with it are tiktok kids and/or chronically online people and if you diagnose those type of people as DID, then the criteria of DID is automatically reshaped. Billy Milligan was diagnosed, still a lot of bullcrap. Stop that, nonna. This is a vent based thread.
No. 2322287
Addicts, of every kind.
Smoking addicts: smelling like shit, yellow teeth, yellow nails, aging faster, money wasters, time wasters (they always have to smoke after a meal).
Drug addicts: violent, money wasters.
Drunkies: money wasters, swiping under the rug responsibilities (addicted to blacking out), cannot have fun without some alcohol for some reason, most of them are weak people who believe that the only way to make friends is to drink.
Food addicts: obese, smelly, money wasters, whiny
Sex addicts/fetishists: you become a tool to them and not a person. Being in a relationship with a fetishist means that he selected you for how fast you make him cum, how much you fit their weird stuff criteria, prone to cheating the moment you cannot give him his leg in bear trap sex with wax and feet with purple sheer socks. Most of them are chronically online.
Gamblers: yeah who wants to lose the house for a bit of dopamine yeah??
Every addict is a weak person with no self control that only looks forward on the next round, no matter how wasteful, dangerous or hurtful. Do not want near people like them.
No. 2322512
>>2322273I never said it makes someone innocent or any of those things you're implying. Where did you get that? I don't care about pedos or rapists. I'm going about this factual not what I'm feeling or think it is.
>>2322476(you)
No. 2323824
All those mental illnesses that include the person being a stalker/prone to develop parasocial relationships.
Being a stalker implies that a person is entitled as fuck to another person and that person only exist for their perception, plus to be a stalker people often forget that it takes a shit load of time, you can't follow a person/call them/text them on the job and they do that all day every day. Stalkers are violent and delusional, especially those who stalk "out of love", they also lack basic social skill because are you sure that that girl is gonna fall in love with you if you follow her? Go to her job? They're also unstable because they live in their own parasocial world where they don't believe, even if its in front of their eyes, that a woman could be in a relationship. Yes, women. Women stalkers are a nanofraction of the statistic, they don't even count. I was a victim of stalking and it always got swept under the rug because "that person is ill! It's not dangerous, just ill!!" and? Just because he's not touching me then I'm safe and I should be calm? This fucker always followed me at work and sat there my entire shift (waitress), then he got my insta, of course followed me with a fake acc because they're ill, entitled but smart enough to do this and endlessly messaged me and then insulted my nigel. Yes, I could block him, yes I did, still he didnt make me live in peace because by the law here, unless he touched me, the restaurant I work in couldn't really kick him out. I tried to tell him calmly that no, I was not interested but He was! So why not giving him a chance? And if it's an illness that's making him believe that he's entitled to me like the jobless retard that he is, then that illness is one of the worst ones to exist. If my Nigel were to hit him, he could be the one to go to jail because the stalker is technically innocent since he didn't assault me, see where they take advantage? And what loophole they use? He made me paranoid and now everytime that the bell rings in the restaurant, I always glance at the door. Fuck him, stalkers should be hit. I don't care if they're ill, now I have anxiety and flinch at every notification and I've become extra private of my stuff, not that's not a bad thing, but I feel bad even sending a picture to my mom because this fucker claimed to be my friend, got my mom's insta, told her that he lost my number and really wanted to see the party that I went into (he made up an excuse that he was too at the party - not true - and wanted the pics and couldn't get them and I was the only one to have them) and yes, she was also naive but the lenghts that he went to get a piece of me creeps me the fuck out. Fuck them. literally. Shove a broomstick up their asses. One time he asked me what could he do to get a "yes" from me because he was getting angry that his flirting technique wasn't working and I was playing hard to get. Bitch what the fuck. And of course this got down to a spiral where he said that since I'm pretty then I only like pretty boys because all that matters to me is being pretty, that I'm shallow and stupid, yeah, of course now I'm totally in love with you after you insulted me but here you go again, the day after, at the goddamn table. Indeed he was ugly as sin but it was his mental illness that made him ugly and unkept, if only they had a gram of self reflection.
No. 2324544
Why are some BPDs so obsessed with projecting? No, I don't have BPD, YOU do! Ackshually you're the one who's insane and manipulative and gaslighting meee. Hell, they wholeheartedly believe it so you can't accuse them of lying either.
I knew one who was surprisingly very modest and celibate regarding sex, shocker, but that was just for attention. Also ended up having feelings for me and sending me around 2 pages size 10 font of messages about how perfect and amazing and intelligent and loving I am, general lovebombing, and it made me feel guilty about not being able to reciprocate said love because my intuition was creeped out yet I didn't know what lovebombing really was like. Boom a few months later I'm accused of having ASPD, NPD, being an attention seeker who attention seeks online because I don't get it in real life (I don't post or interact online and mask up every time I leave the house kek). I don't get how their brains work, is it just purposely deluding themselves? And why? I can understand trying to see someone as bad to cut off your own attachment, it's happened when I liked people who weren't good for me in the long run, but what shifts that hate? It's scary.
No. 2325467
>>2325315Not every anachan was molested to try and disappear and I am sick and tired of this narrative. I pity the ones that were, but some of them genuinely are just mentally ill in non-traumatic ways, want attention, are too lazy to exercise etc., hell some even do it
for a fucking fetish where they're skinny and weak so big gross fat scrotes can rape them and abuse them, or for pandering to moids who want anorexic women because anal is cleaner with them since they don't eat anything. Either way, it's not wrong to criticize them. It involves a messed up view of body image which they always end up projecting onto others one way or another. Many become covert narc type crybullies.
No. 2325682
>>2325312It has been used since late 2020, idk if you know where the fuck you are posting
Can newfags stop purposely not reading the op or take a hint where they are, I know that tiktok fried your brains to a point of no return but we try to use reading comprehension and critical thinking here. Plus why do you care kek
>>2325315You arent entitled to kissassing just because you have coping mechanisms, all mentally ill people need to accept this
No. 2325824
>>2325467Honestly I became Anachan because I wanted to be skinny and seeing my weight going down made me feel rewarded. I just got addicted to that.
Sometimes it isn’t that deep.
No. 2328918
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I don't believe her at all. Pandas, tourettes, absence seizure, she gets a new diagnosis every year, I hate attention seekers
No. 2328930
People with anxiety disorders are truly the most annoying of all. I'd prefer to associate with a bippie than I would to associate with someone with social anxiety. The most egoistic petulant whiny people on Earth. They are obsessed with themselves and nobody else, nothing else, will ever be more important than their own egos.
>No, I can't come to your important meaningful birthday party!! I'm too socially anxious for parties!
>No, I can't learn to drive, I'm too anxious to learn so you have to drive me everywhere!
>No, I can't leave my house to help you, everyone will laugh at me!!
>Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, ME!
Everything is filtered through this egoistic lens. Nothing is as it seems, nothing is as it is, because to them everything has to relate back to how they feel about themselves. They're immature, cowardly, and self-obsessed, and they make that YOUR problem.
God forbid they just go to the fucking doctor and get a prescription for Prozac, no no, the doctor gives them anxiety! It's not like it's one of the most common illnesses and it's not like tens of millions of people take anxiolytics every year and that they're one of the most commonly prescribed medications, no no. We just don't get it, they have a super special unique feeling, clinical nervousness, and instead of getting treated they need to sit and stew in their feelings so that they can be the biggest and bestest martyr, because their whole personality hinges on being a victim.
They demand constant coddling, constant reassurances, constant pep talks, just to reaffirm their own mediocrity.
I fucking hate people with anxiety.
No. 2328996
>>2328964Seriously. I'm getting tired of zoomers engaging in posts that take like 30 seconds to read, being too stupid or lazy to read them, and then trying to spin their lack of attention span as a "gotcha" to insult the other person. Retards like that are the type of internet users that
should be "cyberbullied".
No. 2329188
>>2329183Kek when did I say it was about me, you sound projecting. I don't use either TikTok or Twitter so that's just something you pulled out of your ass. Not everything is about you and your retarded birthday party
>overthinkingWhat
>tiktok comment sectionWhat
(infighting) No. 2329204
>>2329189I'm not even ayrt and even if I was, you're still overthinking. You're clapping at your own show for a crumble of anonymous attention, that's cringe.
Anyway, I hate and absolutely despise fetishists. Aside from the fact that they're sex pests and automatically monkeys for that, fetishists make everything about their fetish and if they're writers/artists on a bigger scale, they also try to disguise it in media and not only it's disgusting, but annoying because it shows how much they can't go without getting off, it's creepy as fuck and looking back at old shows and cartoons, sometimes there's no reason to put that shit in children show. Make your own for you and other fetishists and fuck off. Online, they don't have shame and make their entire personality about it, posting autistically about diapers, feet and fat blobs. They don't even want to draw good so you always have mspaint tier fetish shit on social media in between actual artists or if they are mentally ill enough to get a monthly tugboat like cwc, they get good at drawing/writing but shit everything up with their fetish about the most niche thing. They also get off from the thought of including others in their fetish, asking them over and over what do they think, if they like it and such…plus many of them get so obsessed with a character that yeah I can understand, I also have my husbandos, but they get obsessed then put them in the most weird, ultraspecific situation only to get off and at some point, the source material gets so twisted, they should do ocs but are too retarded for that. I put them in the same box of schizo people being obsessed with stalking celebrities, that's the level of delusion. Idk, I work in the art fields, I wish that we could bully them again in their weird little spaces but nooo now kinksters are even at gay pride parades. I hate how sex based now everything is with the excuse of acceptance and inclusivity, stop putting characters in diapers and writing essays about them shitting in it, you're weird as fuck.
No. 2329206
>>2329204This belongs better on the kinkshaming thread but I agree. Worst are the adult ones who get so fucking
triggered for no reason whenever someone (especially a child) expresses discomfort at that shit. It's a mental illness to me because it's way too "self"-centred (in the way that say, social anxiety makes you think everyone's laughing at
you, or narcissism makes you think the world should cater to
you). They're one step away from being groomers with how much they shove their fetishes down people's throats.
No. 2329221
>>2329206Sometimes me and my work mates genuinely ask ourselves how someone develops that shit. "Mental illness" yeah that's a circular definitions, but how does a fetishist brain even work? What makes you grow up with a thing for crusty feet and poop? It's disgusting for a reason: bacteria and dangerous complications and yet these fuckers cannot go a day without drawing or writing about stinky feet and diapers and then they fall further, like the Wonder Bread guy, by the time you reach a +2 layer fetish, I think that you should be considered a deluded retard. Some of them try to hide that shit but its still gross to make people draw your fetish shit like one time I had to draw a happy girl (sometimes I do commissions because some people have too much money and I know) and then this dude asked for a slight edit: a green cloud around her mouth, this retard was into burping. What the fuck. And did he think that I wouldnt notice? They blur the lines in between a thing being aesthetically pleasing and being consumed from it and I hate that. What makes your brain do that, from a chemical perspective? Too much internet exposure can do that and I know, but humans are revolted by some things at primordial stage for a reason or some stuff is so common that sometimes I'm afraid of these people being outside and interact with other people.
What makes someone cum from seeing a girl shaking in the cold? Being stuck in a car? Wearing a specific watch? Getting covered in a slime that's a specific shade of green? Buying bread? Why? Why are they like this biologically speaking?
I was reading a scifi, dramatic manga and theres one guy, in all of it, that sniffs shoes. It's never addressed, the others don't find out and the manga aside from that is very action packed with emotional moments and then there's that guy. Why? Why would you do that? It adds nothing to the character and it's only for the author to draw stinky shoes, can't they do it elsewhere? Why forcing it? Why being into it to begin with? It's not eyecandy like a well dressed husbandos, it's a stinky shoe. It's a normal, everyday obiect, that stinks. It's like being turned on by trashcans, fucking weird and I hate people that are into it and their little to no shame about making everyone aware of what makes the cum. Weird.
No. 2329555
>>2328930You're wrong about the bippie thing,
>>2329500 is correct. Bippies are like anxiety x20. They're anxiety plus a myriad of shit, one belongs in the other's Venn diagram. Anything you dislike in the anxietyfags you listed will exist in a bippie
No. 2329768
>>2329731Ntayrt but i think they meant you’re wrong about rather dealing with a bippie. I can tell you right now that bippies are even worse. They’re the walking definition of energy vampire.
I hate anxiety fags as much as you do anon, but i wouldn’t wish bippies on my worst enemy.
No. 2330870
>>2330835Your post sounds more like a self own than anything.
And as someone who's done a double degree I can say the workload was pretty much the same for all years and hard, but YMMV. What degrees is she taking?>she never talksI feel like there's things you're omitting from your post. Maybe she's staying quiet to not have to deal with your shit.
>she's doing it to spite meYeah you sound like you have some issues yourself if you assume that. It's a roommate, not your best friend, if she cleans and cooks then I'd be happy kek
Inb4 "do not defend mental illness itt".
No. 2330886
>>2330881…Kek. Yeah seconding
>>2330877, you sound deranged.
Funnily enough I did biomedicine and law and I can confirm it rotted my brain with the compressed workload. I can also assure you a lot of the biomed classmates I had were asocial little rabbits so I'm assuming she's the same here with pharm kek. How old is she?
>>2330866Probably not even autistic, just terrified kek
No. 2331284
>>2331281Like these
>>2329064>>2329189>>2330870Shut the fuck up already, go infight elsewhere.
No. 2331527
ADHD. Sorry to the ADHD nonas but I cannot stand people who don't follow through on their words. The problem is they lie all the fucking time and act like they'll totally do X thing - when they KNOW they won't because they literally haven't finished anything they started in the last entire decade. I'd have a lot more respect and patience with them if they were just honest to people and said "no, I can't and won't do that because I'm mentally disabled and would rather watch tiktok for 5h straight" but instead they act as if they're normal functioning people and then afterwards come crying begging for forgiveness and use ADHD as an excuse that they didn't do it. And then everyone else has to try to cover for their lack of work last minute while they mope around in self-pity, still not helping. And on the rare occasion that they actually finished something on time it's a sloppy last minute job they did in a panic to cover their own ass.
And I'm not talking about someone trying to hide their ADHD to new people, I'm taking about people who also do it to their long time supportive friends and family who try their best to accommodate and believe in them. It's like they're in denial until it's convenient to blame the ADHD,and then it's their entire identity. Being friends with someone who has ADHD is nothing but empty promises and disappointment, time after time.
And it's just so boring to hang out with someone who is always 1h late, who promises to be there but instead just wastes your time because they got distracted once again. Who talks about how fun doing things would be - but then they literally never do anything. They never create anything, they never stick to a hobby, they can't learn new skills, they can't plan anything so they never do anything. The ONLY hobby I've seen a person with ADHD have is "passive consumption". They can only binge watch tv, tiktok, anime, or scroll social media all day. The most active hobby they can manage is a video game where they at least have to press buttons to get more content. Even reading a book is too hard for them.
No. 2332103
>>2331527I had to dump and no contact the love of my life (so far) because I don't have the constitution/patience/self loathing/narcissism to deal with ADHD. Shit sucks.
I think NT people happy with ADHD SOs have ego issues and love the limerence and obsession ADHD people call "love"
>>2331534My manager is this. since I couldn't deal with it with all the love I had (see above), a coworker I do not care about is worse than hellish. I legitimately do not respect him. my only consolation is that my disdain is so palpable it
triggers his "rejection sensitivity" and he leaves me alone.
No. 2332532
>>2331527Genuine question, but how do people with ADHD know that it's ADHD and they're not just like low IQ retarded? Or is that part of ADHD? The ones I've met are just so incapable of… anything. They claim they totally can do a thing they never can do, it reminds me of an overconfident toddler.
I've met autists who seemingly act similarly retarded at first and I see many ADHD people shit on them for being worse than them, but then they drop an entire encyclopedia of high IQ shit on you while those with ADHD can't even finish reading a one sided pamphlet because it's "too much reading". And the autists I met actually did things, usually in weird autistic nerdy ways but at least the shit did get done.
No. 2333911
>>2331527To this day I still cannot understand why would someone look out a ADHD diagnosis.
Autism makes you weird and gives you an excuse to be weird, bpd makes you look tragically loving (bullshit but normies don't know that shh), depression makes you look cool and mysterious, did makes you look interesting and very pity-able, ADHD has no benefits other than being annoying as shit, stupid as shit, unreliable as shit and overall rude.
"ADHD makes me do a lot of things at once!" And? That's not something to be proud of.
"I struggle with finishing stuff!"
Ehhh…..
The worst ones are those who claim "audhd" like they're comorbid or something which yes, they are in a specific case, in the mentally stunted autism and most of the girlies who claim it only have one.
I'm most likely an autist by family history, I'm the only one who hasn't got an official diagnosis yet but adhders make me livid. The time blindess that translate in utter disrespect when I get ready for something and I get there, waiting, over and over because they distracted themselves on the way to get ready, the nagging because they can't fucking listen and you have to repeat yourself and it makes you look and feel annoying yourself, they cannot focus and then blame you because "you know they are adhd!!" when they fuck up. I believe that a truly adhd person cannot live in the real world because jobs aren't really that forgiving for the time and tasks so yeah I also believe that's over diagnosed, but if I had an adhd diagnosis I would try so hard to cover it, it's like a shame more than anything else.
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>>2334551You should try floatation therapy, if you're not claustrophobic. It's an old hippy trick that helps with ruminating and symptoms of ocd. It sounds like pseudo-medicinal bullshit (since pathos is what is injured and can't be measured) but forces a cerebral experience and shakes up the cycle. I think many places offer simultaneous aromatherapy which could really help with the depression aspect (but would probably be useless on it's own)
No. 2335279
>>2334551Read the thread rules
same though, it sucks>>2334926I keep trying to tell people their cases are probably just depression or anxiety. Like who hasn't heard of depression making you lack motivation and can't focus, or the anxious procrastinator until the last minute?
No. 2337098
>>2334926>Ever since quarantine every third person has ADHDQuarantine fried most people's brains because they had nothing better to do than sit at home and doomscroll on their smartphones all day. That's why you're seeing so many adults diagnosed with "ADHD". It's literally just situational depression and tech addiction, but psychs can't diagnose that for insurance billing purposes, so they label these new clients as ADHD.
>To me it's just an excuse irresponsible adults use to act like 7 year olds.It is. Folks who got diagnosed as children 15+ years ago worked their asses off and learned to function normally because they're expected to keep up with their peers. Any grownup who still uses ADHD as an excuse for fuckups is legitimately not trying to get better.
No. 2339369
>>2339347This sums up this cow @peachaura that keeps showing up on my tiktok feed kek I had to block her because she was constantly posting herself screaming about how she’s a
victim.
No. 2339375
>>2339369Why did I read that as "pey-a-chaura" and not "peach aura" kek.
And yeah I understand BPDs can be
victims themselves, I don't deny that being traumatised can and will attract abusers but they just can't acknowledge the fact they can be abusers themselves. Nobody is allowed to be traumatised but them, why.
No. 2340478
>>2339620She’s quite literally retarded. Almost 30 living with her parents and posts videos of herself crying because she’s such a
victim. I remember last year she posted about her ex boyfriend going on a date with a minor, then she deleted the video and got back with him thinking no one would notice. Just typical horse face BPD shit
No. 2347061
I used to be the regular bippie hater, always there to tear and slander them online and lately I realize how sad and helpless they are, that even thinking about them makes me so fucking sad, I can't explain.
A bit of a blogpost but in my life I've been a victim of two heavy bippies who fucked up my late teens and early adulthood years, both with constant suicide threats, both with push pull dynamics, both with smear campaign, you know, the textbook stuff. I talked and talked about them (mostly therapists and friends) and by now that I've rationalized it, they make me so fucking sad to the point I wish I had a gun and mercy kill them. Not to alog, you know the stuff that happens in the movies when someone is very sick and people mercy kill them? That stuff, that's how sad they make me.
In my life, I dealt with silent treatment multiple times and I'm not an emotional retard, when someone tells me they need space, they get space. The moment they got space, they freaked the fuck out and made every possible attempt to talk back to me like their lives was depending on them by saying that I was the worst person on the planet and they needed closure. I can deal with silence, my own, the others, they fucking can't. Imagine living so miserably that you cannot stand your own company to the point you don't want to discovery what makes you happy beside obsessing over someone else.
The lack of identity, the continuous jump from one trend to the other (my last bippie relationship was with a current troon who ebegged to get srs, let's see how that turns out after the new trendy thing fades), the inner emptiness, the existential dread, hell I'm not empathizing with them but just realizing how weak and pathetic they are and they cannot escape their own head because they cannot think ahead, they let their feelings go and then cry at the consequences but lack a "self" to reflect to so they literally cannot process their actions, reactions and emotion. It's hell and I think that since they can give hell to others, they should be locked up in some psych units until they are reabilitated. I'm stronger now but I feel that if I was weaker, I could've endured years of pain because these motherfuckers like to bathe in their own misery instead of getting out, bpd is so much a crab mentality it's horrible, after a long therapy now I'm also more calmer but I used to freak out at notification, at every "we need to talk", at every "can't sleep" message, every day could be a bad day, esp my partner would use the mask I've fell in love with when they needed or wanted something then hating me for existing, apparently, the minute after, the screaming (now I want dead silence in my house) and my heart racing from the anxiety because I got cheating threats for not coming home one time due to extra shifts, another one was because I was recovering from surgery and I couldn't be a sex toy for this hell spawn of a person and such. I was living for them, still not enough. Not giving too many details because I'm still paranoid but from now yeah, I can pity them but I will absolutely stay the fuck away from them and I hate them with the power of a thousand suns when they joke about being little damaged souls or misunderstood lovers online, I hate them. That shit can ruin people but they, somehow, always fall on their feet. fuck them.
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I'm cancernon from
>>2346686.
My mother said something to me during her blowup the other day which really puzzled me but I heard a real good explanation in case anyone finds it useful:
She loves to DARVO and one of the things she accused me of is that she "walks on eggshells" around me when in fact that's what I have to do around her.
For context, I basically cannot exist in this house lest I am "burdening" her space, her words. She makes me reorganize all of my boxed up possessions routinely as she claims I am a "messy" person and is never satisfied from the last reorganization. I keep to a tiny guest bedroom that I must keep spotless at all times, meet the demands of her obsessive compulsion to clean (I clean for a living btw..), and never so much as leave any trace i.e. a dirty dish or crumbs on the countertop–not saying these aren't things adults ought to do, but I know I cannot risk normal scenarios like letting a cup sit in the sink for a day or maybe not meticulously wiping down everything after use
or else it will lead to a meltdown. Btw I work and she does not so she has all day to inspect the house to build resentment for anything I do or do not do. As a result, I try to make myself as scarce around the house as possible like occupying my time with work, staying with friends, and generally just being out of her house. Yet she criticizes that too and bemoans how I am never around
to serve and meet her demands and treat her house like a hotel–either way I cannot win. Her relationship towards me has always been this transactional and critical. I could go on but it would be a novel just like the op so tl;dr I accommodate and stay outta her way as much as possible so that accusation made no sense to me at the time. I thought she was just flinging shit at the wall at the peak of her tantrum to see what stuck.
Anyways, the analysis I watched for why narcissists will claim "walking on eggshells" is because their resentment is so extreme that them trying to control their irrational behavior feels oppressive in their minds knowing there will be consequences if boundaries are crossed. Because they are so used to being able to control their targets. Whereas they are blind to what they do to people, all they know are their own feelings. See I really do think my mother has tried, but she is too much of a damaged person to make lasting changes without CBT therapy and consistent medication neither of which she does and will never do. I believe this is why she can rage at me for an hour uninterrupted yet when she finally pushes a button and I react with my own outrage, she claims I am the "abuser" whom she has to "walk on eggshells" around. Because heaven forbid she doesn't get to say whatever nasty shit she wants to me and then call me an entitled ingrate for it.
Luckily she's been ignoring me since her blowout. I agree that we should not be talking right now, I know when I got in her face when she needled me for crying I must've been pretty fucking scary. It's the meanest I've ever been back to her. I hate to say it, but narcissists are a lot like animals in that you have to have an extreme reaction sometimes to send the message that they cannot keep doing that shit when boundaries don't work and leaving isn't an option. Fear evidently can be healthy for them.
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I can't stand people who list their disorders in their bio. If someone has cancer and maybe they made an account for support from other people struggling, that's one thing. But is it even possible for someone to have this many mental and physical problems? Because I'm pretty sure it's just attention seeking bullshit. Maybe some are legit, but all of them seems as if they're shouting to the internet that they have the most problems and they are just such a victim and require extra asspats and coddling. These types of people might have a couple things wrong with them and because they don't live a meaningful or enriched life and they see the kind of attention it gives them that they wouldn't get otherwise for things like life milestones and achievements, they wear it as a badge of honor. That way when there is a myriad of complications, any and all responsibility for fuck ups can be blamed on one of them like picking a piece of paper out of a hat. OH SORRY I'm late, it was my uh [flips through notes] cyclical vomiting syndrome. No, I didn't steal your shirt. You found it in my bag? Oh that must have been one of my alters, Jeremy. He is 13 and has problems with boundaries. It's my DID I can't control it~ Holy fuck just remove yourself from the planet.
No. 2355011
>>2355001Why do you accept fault for things you havent done wrong when you can just admit some people don't want to participate in society the way it is? Why can't you give them agency to do what they want even if it looks completely crazy to you? You have to write them off as crazy, but maybe its actually you that are crazy if you still see any value in it. You just have to accept some people want nothing to do with anything or they can't deal with patriarchal humanity the wy it is because it disgusts them. Like going outside literally fucking disgusts them.
But what does it have to do with you? Maybe if you just accepted some people couldn't cope with it you could let go of whatever guilt for whatever thing you didn't do.
No. 2355021
>>2355017respectfully and with love… are you the
nonnie having a manic episode where they want to talk a lot online
No. 2355028
>>2355018Oh i misread
Well my point still stands.
No. 2355053
>>2355043Sure the person reacts violently to rejection and their view of me changes to "all bad". So gradually confirming that I really meant it when I said I didn't want to speak to them again (years ago) is probably causing a split, since their reality was based around that (and what they've convinced other people/former mutual friends).
I've gone out of my way not to say anything because of how dark this person can get when don't feel in control but my silence on the situation has been misconstrued as "guilt" (that I've done something to this person, because I've taken ownership of all wrongdoing during our time together, so it can just be put to rest). I've even opened up the possibility of communication in the future (when I have no interest in that) because I'm worried this will escalate negatively, if they think there is no chance of reconciliation
No. 2355069
>>2355065what kind of big event do you think would
happen? i still don’t really understand what they’re accusing you of - being a bad friend for stopping talking to them or outright lying about you? that is really disturbing they are befriending people in your life - what are they asking them to do for them? do they believe this person?
No. 2355072
>>2355069My guess would be physically attacking me in some way. I'll just say this person is an mtf now and has always expressed contempt toward me being female and my physical appearance. So I think he's the kind of male who would try to disfigure his
victims and/or rape. I've seen evidence that this behaviour is escalating but would rather not say where
No. 2355079
>>2355072no that’s okay you should be really vague i just am trying to understand this situation to better give advice. it sounds really complicated. it worries me they might escalate things physically with you too. if you live in the united states you can register to have your address not on record for reasons like this. you don’t need to prove anything i don’t think you can just say you have a fear of domestic violence a stalker are a SA
victim etc whichever applies to the case and say you don’t want your address publicly accessible. maybe you can hide from them that way? do you see them often? i would definitely not speak to them. if this is going to happen every time you cut contact they will twist everything to make you look even guiltier the next time. i think the most disturbing part is this didn’t happen recently and they’ve been secretly seething while you had no idea. i had a similar situation that thankfully has cooled down now where i was threatened and even though i saw that person following me around multiple times and they posted indirect threats, nothing ever happened to me and it fizzled out. this person doesn’t seem to be tiring themselves out and that’s worrisome.
No. 2355094
>>2355079It's basically this thing tech-moids are doing that hasn't reached mainstream consciousness yet, they find all sort of ways to access your info and devices. I had a random phone logged into my primary google account for years and through this, the stalker obtained my information and encouraged people (mostly moids but unbelievably a couple females too) to stalk me with him by creating a narrative around "Bambi hypno" (I'm guessing this is where inspiration came from). The reasoning seems to vary from social justice (I went from being a handmaiden to rad-fem/
terf due to the experience of seeing him visibly skinwalk/act like me and had no idea what was going on at the time or that I've also become anti-immigration because my country increased the rate like 400% in two years). When that narrative no longer makes sense, it's to mock
my delusions and stupidity. I spent a lot of time defending myself at first directly to the people he "recruited" but have since realized that was insane because why the fuck would I want to convince them of anything? There is no way anyone could ever convince me to join a group of people stalking someone I knew, for any reason. So fuck them, honestly kek
No. 2355100
>>2355097>what is bambi hypnoI would rather you google that
>he’s hypnotizing people to gang stalk you?God no, he's giving a group of drug addicts plausible deniability so they don't have to come to terms with the fucked up shit they're doing. It's a typical leftoid crowd, so drugs are rampant and anything porn-related
No. 2355104
>>2355100samefag but just to elaborate on
>had no idea what was going on at the timeI fully supported and believed in his "transition" at first, before it became clear it was porn and literally "becoming" me (or had heard anything about AGPs, other than Hontra's take). I've never experienced anything as bone-chilling as that and his drug use/erratic behavior escalated to a point I had never seen. I'm pretty sure he texted my family bizarre/humiliating things they didn't want to share, I know he texted a male friend of mine illicit photos, which were sent to me
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Not so much a mental disorder I can't stand, more so an ego defense that I can't stand: but, I really can't stand projection.
It seriously makes me so irritated when someone tries to project bullshit on me. What happened today was:
A distant relative of mine got scammed by a con artist with a long history of financial abuse. This con artist has been targeting my family for years, and everyone I know in my family has all but shafted the con artist except for this particular relative. Distant relative reveals to me that the con artist requested she send him $500, and I told her very plainly: "Don't do it, you won't see the money back, he's just trying to take advantage of you. It would be delusional to think you'd ever get the money back, so don't send it!" A few days after I warn her about it, she sends the con artist the money anyway, and naturally he takes advantage of her and she's lost $500.
I see her again today at a family event, and when we were conversing I mention that I'm going to try to exercise more often to lose some weight. Biggest mistake of my day because she then began a 10 minute tirade (yes, I counted) about how working out won't help me lose weight, that I'm already anorexic enough (for context I'm like 10lbs overweight and I'm in no way anorexic), that I won't see the results I want, and to top it off she said "You're delusional if you think that will work!" When she said that it all clicked. She's been feeling so guilty and stupid for getting scammed, and she doesn't wanna blame herself, so of course she releases all her self-doubt out on me because I'm the one that warned her about the con artist to begin with. To use such similar phrasing, especially the same word "delusional," makes it seem like she was waiting for the next time she'd run into me so that she could try to project her insecurity onto me. I just nodded along and agreed with her because I didn't think it was a wise battle to fight - that, and I knew deep down that what she was saying had nothing to do with me, it was all about her in that moment. She wanted to prove to me that she wasn't the delusional one for sending $500 to a conman, and she tried to prove that by bringing me down.
I just can't stand people that do this. It's like they can never actually admit that they've done anything wrong, or that they feel a certain way, so they try to push all their feelings onto you for some stupid reason. I used to have the same problem with an old acquaintance; she was terribly anxious whenever she was out and about, but she could never actually admit that to herself. Instead, whenever we'd go out she'd always say that I spoke too loud, or that I was too rambunctious, or that I brought too much attention to myself, even when it was nothing like that at all. It was so tiresome being around her because it felt like she was trying to create these flaws about me to distract from her own flaws that she so desperately wanted to hide.
Projection is such a stupid ego defense.
No. 2365253
>>2358557>she was terribly anxious whenever she was out and about, but she could never actually admit that to herself. Instead, whenever we'd go out she'd always say that I spoke too loud, or that I was too rambunctiousThat's projective identification, the final stage of projection. Person A feels something unpleasant, acts in a way that makes person B feel like that too
or goads B into reinforcing that feeling. It drives me nuts, i hate it when women (ime it's women usually) look at you with beady anxious eyes and ask you if you're doing well repeatedly until you snap, so they can go "see, you're stressed/angry". The way it's done is forceful, like they're not sastisfied with a simple yes, they
demand a negative reply. Hate hate hate hate it, i hope that next time it happens i'll remember to reply "no,
you feel like shit, i'm fine thank you".
No. 2366291
>>2366284Yes I knew exactly what you were talking about.
>>2366278 this sperg is the one whose posts get deleted, at times
dozens a day and they're fixated on the idea of other schizos because theyre asshurt and pretend everyone is writing them letters. They have resorted to deleting their own posts within seconds (sometimes posting 10 times in a row basically) and lash out on anyone they see as an online enemy kek. They are trying to pin their psychosis on others because they're permabanned.
No. 2366419
>>2366341>>2366340KEK
>>2366332Woah. I'm fascinated by female autists who were somehow coddled into acting more like their male counterparts. Honestly i don't know why you should put up with
all of that. How did you even become friends? Shared interest?
>She’s been going around outing this girlMaybe you should
trigger her sense of justice by having her face what she did to that woman
>>2327417Have a friend like this (actual autist with paranoid tendencies), i'm somewhat worried for her even if she's doing great, overall. I really get you, it's hard when you can't tell if it's
just their baseline autism or if it's worsening into proper schizo shit. The overlap is real, autistic people are more vulnerable to delusions but it's not well known
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>>2366419>fascinated by female autists who were coddled into acting more like their male counterpartsHonestly me too. Kek if I didn’t have a front row seat I would probably admire her ability to totally resist the pleasantness pressure of female socialization. I wouldn’t necessarily say she was coddled, she grew up kinda poor and has a lot of insecurities with status symbols. Although she was an only child and her dad is a creepy cult leader lite type of failed artist
>How did you even become friends? Shared interest?She’s four calendar years older which would be negligible but we met in high school. I was going through an edgelord phase at the time and felt very validated by the “cool” senior who loved my jokes
and would buy me/had sources for drugs and alcohol. We did have shared sperg interests like 90s anime and pokemon games but mostly I think I just liked having an outlet to be a nasty little shit and she was stunted enough to entertain it
>Maybe you should trigger her sense of justice by having her face what she did to that womanWhen I tried to tell her she was going way too far she got all smug about her “basic observation skillz” like a Sherlock monologue. Then the black and white autist logic kicked in and she called me a handmaiden. Really just topkek
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Parents like picrel. I hate how they get so much sympathy just because they're just sharing emotional thought processes that they know are irrational. Yes that's better than thinking they're totally rational and nothing's wrong with them, but if you suffer from shit like this, you shouldn't have chosen to be a parent to begin with. Simple as that. Go to CBT/DBT or some shit and don't compete with your unborn child.
No. 2379281
>>2379269It's unintentionally manipulative, that's why. They're even more difficult than overt narcissists imo because you have to walk on eggshells for their anxious sensitivity all the time. I notice these types are incredibly
toxic and passive aggressive if you piss them off as well.
No. 2379337
>>2379334I think they're fully aware they're passive aggressive. I'd like to believe this types are as apologetic as they seem but generally their apologies are because they believe
other people are just as burdensome as they are when it comes to completely trivial issues and they expect you to walk the exact same batshit, imaginary tightrope they do. When you don't, the biting passive aggression begins.
No. 2379437
>>2379410I don't know her or her situation, maybe this is something she could work on in therapy. What helped me was understanding how unfair it was for me to project my trauma with my parents onto everyone, most people never gave me any reason to do so, so I realized how absurd I was being. To stop this habit I set boundaries, like I would avoid saying sorry. Every time I would feel the impulse to say or write it I would create a new sentence of my feelings that didn't have sorry in it. Sometimes I just wanted to say a thank you or ask about something, but my mind would have twisted into feeling guilty or fearful, taking this step back made me realize how my mind skewed the situation and put some new perspective on it. If I understood how my twisted mind worked, I could think ahead of it and cut it off before it happened. I also made an effort to actually listen and believe what people said to me. I was unfairly projecting my own inner monologue onto people, I would filter their words into what I thought they meant, which would get me into these stupid sorry cycles. When someone says it's ok I go with it because the minimum respect I owe to people is to actually listen to them and sort out my inner feelings with myself, not with others.
I guess my advice would be, to avoid saying sorry as much as you can and stop and think really hard before saying it, and to truly listen, and respect what people tell you. Not because people don't lie, but because she actually needs to try to communicate with people instead of being stuck in her twisted mind and assuming what people mean or feel.
No. 2379447
>>2379269My friend did this A LOT as a teen but thankfully she grew out of it. She still does it sometimes, but not nearly on the same level. Honestly the best thing to do at that moment if you don't want to deal with it is to ghost for a few hours until they've calmed down and then pretend like you just got distracted or busy. Feeding into the circle in the moment doesn't help. Do NOT match their energy to reassure them because that's what they're (subconsciously) seeking, that just "rewards" the habit so they'll want to do it more often.
The other thing you can do IF you have the energy for it, is to tell them to stop putting themselves down in front of you and others because it hurts others when they do that. Then you have to be consistent and remind them every time they say sorry that you don't want to hear it. Ask them to instead rephrase it in a nicer way, force them to rethink their words and actions in that moment. You kind of have to commit to helping them if you do it, which is not YOUR job to do so I'd only do it if it's someone you really care for.
For my friend her parents were a bit neglectful and collectively blamed her for what her siblings did wrong when she had no part in it, when asked they said it would be "unfair" if she was the only one to not get punished. Even though she was the only one who didn't do anything, so she'd constantly get punished and yelled at for things she didn't do leading her confidence and self-worth to tank.
No. 2379548
>>2379447I had pretty much the same upbringing lots of anons here described (constantly blamed for everything even if it wasn’t my fault, parents constantly moving goalposts and then blaming me for not living up to their ever-changing expectations, and when I say blaming I mean beatings and yelling and name-calling etc). Thanks to this I got into a bad relationship early on so I could gtfo of there, and when we broke up his whole family blamed me. You get the pattern.
No money for therapy but all of the above mentioned people did me the biggest fucking favor in making me want to kms. Thinking about the logistics of my death and funeral made me think about all the fake crying and theatrics they would pull to make themselves look like loving family members, and that single-handedly slapped me out of my
victim mindset and self-pitying.
I decided to literally be evil and stay alive as long as possible out of pure spite.
I also saw that apologizing, people-pleasing and self-flagellation was me unknowingly perpetuating the same performative ‘good girl’ act that my mom did, because I did stuff nobody asked me to and then got passive aggressive when they didn’t appreciate this thing I did ‘for them’. Except it wasn’t for them, it was so that I could feel like a goody two shoes sweetie pie and force them to like me and be nice to me out of obligation. If I felt jilted I’d cry to someone else behind their back and make myself out to be a kind-hearted martyr who just wants to help but the cruel meanie just won’t give me a chance. Literal nice guy mentality but for women.
Anyway I got therapy and I’m normal now, but the first step was deciding that it’s okay to be an evil bitch. I can’t describe how huge of a deal that was, and I recommend you suggest it to your friend. Not joking, literally saved my life.
No. 2380295
>>2379446It's very kind of you to empathize with your friend and consider her upbringing in mind. I'm not the kind of person to screech "nuuuu they're
toxic" or "reeeee cut them off" when I know nothing of the situation, but my post is still something to consider. I feel sympathy for people who refuse to get off of that imagery tightrope, but my line is drawn at them pretending the rest of us should be up there with them in order to get you to grovel at them.
No. 2381251
>>2379269I feel bad for this type because they often were punished for expressing their needs as a child but whenever you have a conflict, they will NEVER say a word about what supposedly hurts them. They'll just ignore you or smile and act like everything's flowers and rainbows while glaring at you from the side and expecting you to read their minds.
Also, since they think the only way to be liked is to be a huge pushover and completely capitulate their identity, they expect YOU to do it too. They absolutely despise assertive and volitional people who don't take shit from anyone for that same reason. They mask with this sweet baby persona but god forbid you go your own way and then be prepared for hours of tard rage screeching from them.
No. 2381732
Went out the other day. It was nice to finally get away from my older moid sibling (cant move out due to CoL).
Stayed out for a bit longer, yes it was late at night but still. I have my phone on silent, as I want peace of mind, to check my phone on MY terms, rather than being harassed at his will. Im very shy so I hate calling – he knows this. Checked my phone once in a while to see if he texted me, which he likes to do randomly, then guilt me in front of the whole family when I return, if I dont see it/dont respond. Nothing.
Theres a constant feeling of dread, even when I go out, due to this veiled threat of harassment lurking in the background.
Turns out the moid sibling texted AND called while I was driving home. My phone was on silent, so I didnt discover this until I got back. The moid sibling was panicking, and said he was going to drive to where he knows I went (other relative tells him where were going), in case the truck broke down/I got carjacked/etc. I was guilted for not replying by family, while he looked like just a "nice guy who cares" about my safety.
Feels like harassment as punishment for going out, that might one day turn into stalking. Hes always trying to dissuade me from going out, trying to guilt me into having him drive, etc. Later, the older relative showed the moid sibling a site that shows camera footage of highways, and he said hes very interested in watching.
Another thing is this moid has anger issues.
- I was woken up by him banging something. He was unable to break apart de-icing salt, which he decided to do when I was sleeping at like 1AM. He ended up ragequitting, getting angry and slamming it on the ground.
- A female cashier jokingly said "no" when he requested something about his account. For her serious crime against his ego, he glared at her, said nothing. Then he walked out when she wished him a nice day, he said nothing. This was applauded by family members, as him standing up for himself/being alpha.
- Said he wanted to take a baseball bat to a light, because it was flickering, while working on Dad's truck.
- Runs up our parents electricity bill by running 2 fans under his vehicle when its raining. He thinks this will prevent moisture damage, due to puddles underneath it. Moids are the biggest wastes of money, air, and space ever.
Not sure which type of mental disorder this counts as, or even if it does. But being male should count as its own mental disorder anyway.
No. 2383222
>>2383109That's how I felt in a relationship with a bippie: he reduced me to television/cinema tropes, I cried once then I was a "perpetual
victim", I was tired once after work and then I was "always cold", it reminded me of tumblr fandom spaces when a character says I love bread once and then its whole character is Bread Guy.
It irritated me so much because when I acted out of it or tried to find new hobbies, he went on with his whiny voice going "I didn't expect you to be like this!!!" like why? Why not? You didn't expect people to find new hobbies or change due to major events? Especially, he told me I was colder after losing a relative, what the fuck did you expect? For someone that claims empathy, they're always so self centered and unable to read other's emotions, because the moment they do not align with their mental theatre, they see it as betrayal. Tiring.
No. 2384399
>>2384349Same nona here. Exhausting for sure. I have to plan meal prep, sleeping schedule at all hours, just to avoid him. His sleeping schedule often follows mine, no matter which time of day/night I wake up. Thank God for grey rocking, vagueness helps throw him off.
He in particular is also very panicy about stupid crap. Like for ex would not stop pestering mom and I repeatedly for me to login to our parents account to see if the vehicle insurance was paid, since apparently no one else can do it. Even mom, a boymom who favors him, had to tell him to stop asking her about it, when she was getting breakfast. He kept bringing it up anyway, and running up/down the steps with his shoes on, as he always wears them indoors. He harassed me about it, while I was having lunch in my own room. I told him no. He sent Dad to bother me about it, ignored him. Every month, he panics about this, but to a lesser extent. Thats just 1 thing.
Dont mean to sound gross but..I think my constant acne and other health issues, incl gut health and unable to empty my bladder fully at once, are because of this moid. Like if someone doesnt wait to pee while flushing the toilet, then pause to pee when the toilet can flush again, he could hear every drop of piss as his room is right next to the bathroom. He will even mock another person who doesnt wait to pee, times how long they run the tap for [the one good thing is he cares about hygiene], gossips behind their back and shame them for it. Plus he always liked to harass me when I went to the bathroom. I feel safer and more private peeing in a public bathroom.
So much unnecessary stress.
No. 2384536
>>2381732>Not sure which type of mental disorder this counts as, or even if it doesBased off of this post and your other one it sounds like he has OCD. Granted the fact your family enables this and doesn’t pushback on his behavior hasn’t helped at all, but the belief that he’s objectively correct is not only an affliction of the Y chromosome but is made worse by the (probable) OCD. I came across an article or book a year or so ago that mentioned men with OCD are more likely to be
abusive as well, so take that as you will.
No. 2385336
>>2384412>>2384536Thats interesting and eye opening, thank you. So its typical moid projection when he mocks our female cat as being OCD, when she paws in her litterbox after shes finished. I feel like he has a combination of OCD, narcissism, moidery, controlling behavior, and creepiness, which Ill give further examples below.
I avoid him when possible, and grey rock when I cant. But Im interested in what else I can do to get him to leave me alone – and more on his psychology.
Another OCD thing is tied in with his persecution complex. Like he checks around his truck obsessively, making sure that theres no signs of someone tampering with it. He once said to me, he found a feather [yes, really], and said he wonder who put that near his truck, watching to see my facial expression as if he could catch me acting guilty. He likes staring to see my facial expressions, to then "report" me to mom who then turns the entire family against me. He likes listening to my convos in the other room. Might as well put english ivy near his truck canopy to give him something to do lol, but his truck canopy has a camera inside it.
He still seethes about being bullied in elem school, at work, and by former friends making him the butt of the joke. He even stalked his male exfriend, waited outside his house, after they joked too much about him – while he silently glared and said nothing. I feel like hes just waiting to take out all that anger on someone [me].
I appreciate your ideas to get him to move out. If I did any shaming of him, it would just make me even more of a potential target. Dad tried this but was shamed by mom. Now my brother says he has a "right" to live at home. Also, my brother hates women [even before mom got him to watch redpill crap], so him and mom would trash talk the hypothetical woman rejecting the loser moid. He innately hated women and girls so much even as a child. When he was told his sibling [me] was going to be a girl coming home from the hospital, not a brother, he trashed my room before I ever got home after I was just born. This was retold endearingly by mom years ago, now she denies it.
Any abuse he does, its justified by mom with, "well he thinks you hate him", which is what she said when she justified his bathroom harassment. I called him a creep, her response was to tell me to never call him that again.
His anger issues are why Im so afraid of getting in the passenger seat with him. He put the whole family in danger when he drove crazy once, because a dealership ended up not having a truck he wanted to buy. Even other people noticed, but he faced no punishment and is still known as a good driver lol.
Another time, when there was a medical emerg for another relative, in the waiting room, the moid was repeatedly was asking mom if he could be the one to drive me home [I went with mom on the way there]. It was so creepy, and I felt like an object being passed around. It also gave me flashbacks to the time he tried to run my feet over in grade 7, earlier that year I had toenail surgery. When I asked him why, he was silent and glaring ahead, playing loud music he knew I hated. Thankfully, a mechanic did work on his vehicle and it was lost in a fire. Ironically, this moid was the only one to warn me theres a fire, parents were outside content to let me burn I guess.
Any other ideas/feedback how to deal with this moid is welcome.
No. 2385622
>>2381732This is straight up abuse. Idk about the OCD talk, "OCD" is vague anyways and describes external or internal repetition-compulsion patterns, it's not indicative of personality (what i mean by vague). He's a controlling, domineering retard and that might be because of a personality disorder or something else.
Don't know either about "narcisissm". Narcissism is about having a self esteem that's so low you overcompensate with grandiosity and self-obsession. Your brother sounds like a nightmare.
>Turns out the moid sibling texted AND called while I was driving home. My phone was on silent, so I didnt discover this until I got back. The moid sibling was panicking, and said he was going to drive to where he knows I wentThis is not anxiety about idk, checking if the stove is on. A BPD relative of mine would do things like this and it was part of a web of control, coercion and constant surveillance because she couldn't calm her extreme negative emotions and fear of abandonment. He's using the truck as an excuse to resolve whatever problem he has, and as a device to exert control over you. He's miserable and is trying to drag down others to his miserable state. I'm so angry on your behalf, i'd want to beat him to a pulp kekkkk
>Dad tried this but was shamed by momAha, this is probably a big issue. As soon as you mentioned your boymom i knew something like this was going on. He's a domestic tyrant because your dad won't step up and embody rules. Maybe i'm wrong but this is such a common family structure, overbearing mother, faulty father, insane pervert son. Please leave ASAP. And tell him what you think about him when you're safe. He deserves some verbal abuse in return.
No. 2385693
Autists with no sense of survival skills.
I'm a high functioning autist, I was diagnosed in my youth and I underwent psychotherapy for a very long time. I learned all about human behaviours, how to act appropriately in public, how to recognize cruelty or aggression in others, etc., and although I can still be pretty spergy online and with friends, I'm very socially aware and careful in public. I think that's what makes autists with no social skills and no sense of survival more infuriating to me, because I know that if they only focused on actually fixing their poor behaviours and retarded thought processes, then they could do it. But instead, they act like perpetual victims of an uncaring and cold system.
The part that makes me mad is that they insist upon their victimhood. They insist that others are the problem and not them, even when they act like total retards. If I were to walk into the tiger exhibit at my local zoo, I wouldn't complain that the tigers were eating me because that's what's to be expected. It's like they go around acting like total social retards and then get pissy when people treat them poorly. I'm so tired of the victim mentality.
No. 2385749
>>2385622>>2385623Thanks, yes it is a nightmare.
Not sure if this is a narcissistic manipulation tactic or what: he does something in a way that if I stand up for myself, he can act like hes just a nice sensitive innocent guy/
victim, and Im the mean evil woman whos acting hysterical. He uses the advantage of having others back him up, as theyre very fooled about what he really is. So either I dont stand up to him, or I do and get ganged up on/punished somehow.
While hes not stereotypically narcissitic, as he doesnt brag about his looks [lol manlet], he does have entitlement. For ex: I like to tend to the veg garden that I plant myself, which he successfully stalled me for a year or 2 [making me unable to bring my cats out to the safe garden enclosure that keeps out raccoons. Now that its built, my cats are now deceased. When working on it, he would bee-line toward me; pretend to do some himself, then give up and say hell do it tomorrow which never happened; tell me to go inside since Im embarrassing him in case the neighbors think were "crazy" despite him hating the neighbors anyway; take the keys from me pretending to need something from the truck, then immed put the keys in his pockets; stands there 2 ft away watching my every move, etc.] Yet, now he has his dog [who I love] go in the garden area to pee/crap. I told him not to let his dog pee on the food, and he laughed and said, "Well…" as if he will still let it happen. If I ban him from letting the dog in the garden, everyone will act like Im so mean, and hes just a nice guy trying to take his elderly dog for a walk :( See the manipulation? Or hed just lie anyway.
Last summer, before he put the camera in his truck canopy, some of the dog pee just happened to splash inside, but it didnt have much effect. He claims to love his dog, but wont even let him in the truck canopy. I was so tempted to throw his dogs crap on his truck, but then he might be violent to me. Think I might spray vinegar around the garden area, so the dog will hopefully avoid the area, as I dont want to put anything to harm the dog.
I want to leave, better yet, he should leave. Right now Im building a credit score, as I wasnt taught about this. I didnt know a credit score was required to move out/get an apartment, or a phone, or a vehicle. Its scary. I couldve been legit homeless if I had to leave. Ive made progress. My social anxiety is so pathetic, I had to embolden myself to ask the clerk for a credit card for the first time, a while ago. Ill forever be grateful for the nonas here who helped me realize the dangers of men in general, and helped me take that first step.
If I get a job [cant seem to get past the interview stage, no references too], it will likely require transportation, as we live in a small town with hardly any jobs. So that means he could tamper with the vehicle, then gleefully play the nice guy who helps by picking me up from being stranded or whatever. Or pressure me to have him drive/pick me up in his personal vehicle if the main truck stops working, he would love that. Esp since I missed his call last year, and he had to walk home, because his vehicle broke down. He didnt call Dad, uber, or a taxi, he just had to center me out. I sometimes wonder if it really did break down, and if that was just more conditioning.
Im hoping his decades of unhealthy eating habits will catch up with him soon, but knowing how things sometimes go, it could take decades more. I feel terrible sometimes, thinking this way, but he wont let me have peace. He sometimes gets shakiness due to hunger, which he uses to guilt mom into hurrying and making his food lol. Once he mentioned a chest pain. I just happened to not notice that the new pizza he was going to try had 80% sodium, but now he likes it and keeps getting more. Oh darn.
Im dreading my own bday, as he will probably try to ruin it somehow. Last year he enjoyed asking me to take a pic of him with his dog, right after my cats died. He stopped getting me bday sister cards, while Im expected by family to get him bday brother cards. Mom told me I need to be the first to wish him happy new year etc, before I can expect him to wish me the same. You see, his feelings are hurt since he can "feel" my hatred of him, when all I do is avoid and grey rock him. How dare I not enthusiastically enjoy his controlling harassment!
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>>2385623Also, not sure if he even goes on Reddit, but I like your thinking. All I know is that he uses Facebook, which I stopped using long ago. Years ago, I joined, asked him to add me, he panicked because he said his friends will ask him about me. He reluctantly added me, so who knows what he tells people about me.
I know his email and phone, but he will know its me if I send spam lol.
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There is a variant of anorexia that seems to be accompanied with psychosis. I have a hard time connecting with other people who have eating disorders because many of them have what I call, "psychotic anorexia." This particular user is unhinged. Any budding psychologists feel free to use this as a research idea.
No. 2394977
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Ok this might be a bit of a blogposting but I'm trying to make sense with a situation: how many of you are/think are on the spectrum and fell victim of a narc/bpd for years?
I'm doing therapy because my last relationship was so bad it broke me and we are talking about something: maybe my bpd/narc partner was attracted to my autism. Keep in mind that this is just a theory but I can draw the patterns and its making me sick but if i can make some other nonna think/talk about it I consider it a success:
My abusive partner, which most likely has either bpd/narc tendencies but he's absolutely on the Cluster B, loved my autism because it complimented all of his destructive needs.
My desire to be accepted complimented his lovebombing and I fell for it so bad, I almost feel stupid now, my cooldown moments gave him a reason to put up fights and he played with my empathy and fueled my low self esteem and I got addicted to the highs I got from him pulling me back, sometimes I even worried if we were not fighting despite the massive pain he inflicted to me because I saw through his bullshit and connected the dots about how for him love was fighting and yeah, stupid as I was, I accepted that because if he wasn't up my ass then he was talking to other girls (actually cheated a few times but of course I blamed my emotional skills for that). My special interests, which were writing and crafting, time consuming hobbies, were first steps for calling me an egoistical whore that made him suffer for not using that time for him but his videogame time was sacred, he canceled dates for gaming, he forgot my birthday a couple of times because "You know I'm depressed and my days are melting into each other sorry" but got mad if I didn't plan a grandieuse party for him because "I'm such a materialistic bitch, why can't I do that for him, if I loved myself so much to treat me to collecting stuff then I could spare some of that love for him, right?" He told me that he couldn't do shit for me because "he was depressed" and if he played games instead of going out with me for anniversaries and such, it was "a small step to recover, because I'm making myself happy so I can be happy with you."
In the end, suffering made space for confusion, to this day I still don't know what made him act like this. Yes of course, his mental illness, but it doesn't make sense to me. As I sad, since I'm an autist, I tend to view things logically more than with my heart and yes, I know that's something I still need to work on, but it doesn't make sense to me how there's a mental illness that makes you suffer but makes you so blind to the suffering of others and then at the end of the day makes everyone run away from you, you have nothing else to blame but yourself. They could just stop, literally. They do this to themselves. Oh and I lost counts of all the times I was called "cold" because I had shit to do in the morning and I couldn't stay up all night to listen to his endless ramblings about stuff that had happened 10-20 years prior but during the day (which he passed sleeping) I was the one providing for him. He sucked my life dry and that was particularly traumatic for me because I was just learning how to live with my socially stunted autism when this demon showed up and immediately latched into my desire to be understood and now I have to cope with my autism and with all the traumatic traits he projected into me. Demon, dirt, trash that's what he is. I considered myself caring, not an empath because I don't even know what that means to be honest, but at least caring, loving, kind, people described me as such before but to him I was the most materialistic, narcissist, egoistical bitch and idk, blame my negative bias, but now I feel cold and I'm always wary of other people, I refuse or turn down any nice gesture for the fear of falling again into this shit and I've become even lonelier. Fuck him.
No. 2395787
Male autism. Female autism can get pretty fucked up too but male autism gives an excuse for the moid to act his worst out and their back is always covered by mommy. Male autist are also disgusting, they often smell, everything is disgusting about them, once I saw an autistic male that was allowed to spit food out during lunches and dinner, on the table, because he was nonverbal so that was his way to say that he was not hungry anymore. I already have a little patience with kids, cannot imagine to live with one for all of my life if I ever birth an autistic son, they all should be locked up somewhere and I cannot stand the major coping of the parents that even the child is barely there, they say that he's sensitive, kind and clever, like what? How? Just because he hugs you like a basic human response? Jesus christ…idk if I despise the mental retardation autism or the heavily socially stunted one.
No. 2395887
Whatever mental illness or mental retardation causes NEETs to be the most insufferable people alive. I have no idea what it is, but at least 75% of all NEETs share the same psychology.
They have so much self-loathing, but somehow, someway, that's society's fault! They have so much anxiety and depression, but they're totally incapable of ringing a doctor and asking for a script to feel better. They have no social skills, but they won't learn about them or practice them with all their time off, no, they'll languish and fester in their inadequacy and then whine about the world being too scary. They'll treat everyone as disposable pieces of trash, and act like an asshole to any stranger, but as soon as they get that same energy back at them, they'll burst into tears and scream "abuse! abuse!" They want everything handed to them on a silver platter because somehow they've deluded themselves into thinking that that's how it went for everyone else, because they hate to admit that people have to work to succeed, because they can't accept that they don't want to succeed. They mooch of their parents for life, but they'll still come online to complain about their parents as soon as their chief enablers dare to say "no."
Petulant, vindictive, self-loathing, maladjusted adults that would do anything to be seen and treated as a child forever. They have all the time in the world to improve themselves, to get better: but, the truth that they don't want to admit is that they don't want to get better. They want to be enabled for the rest of their days, they want to be coddled and cared for forever because they are the pinnacle of selfishness and egoism. They don't want to succeed in life because they've already succeeded in their bedrooms, alone and isolated, where the only thing that matters is waking up, and that's good enough for them.
No. 2396342
>>2396005Ayrt, nobody does actual funded research on it because it's ableist and mean to the Cluster Bs and also nobody would participate. But it's well known that narcissists go after autists because they can be more naive, be less predictive of their
abusive behaviour thanks to their difficulty with social cues, etc. It's basically common sense. Autists have their weaknesses compared to normies, and what do narcissists love? Weaknesses of course.
Reddit posts do give plenty of proof though. Just look for posts by autists in the raised by narcissists or loved ones subreddits, or straight from autism subreddits, it's a pretty common jackpot.
I could even share anecdotes, firsthand and secondhand, but they don't belong itt.
No. 2397339
>>2395977My ex was like this.
Wealthy, loving and supporting family to the point that they bought him a house and funded his trooning surgeries (funny huh) while he was a neet only to make him happy since he got depressed for whatever the fuck reason, he treated them like shit afterwards, cut off every contact and sat in his house without working because I was the one working (I was living on my own and didn't want to move because I started to smell that something was off) and thus I could give him food and he asked me for my part of bills when I went over in the weekends then he loved disrupting my sleep only to fight and argue, blamed me for all of his problems, called me a narc…still wondered how he was born like this, his family was okay, his sisters were hard working nice ladies and his mother was very loving….what the fuck…
No, they never coddled him in infancy/teenage years, in fact they started to tell him to get a fucking job and he told them several times that if he didn't got what he wanted he would kill himself. I guess that you would anything to avoid a dead son, if you don't have a grasp of how being a bpdemon works.
No. 2407294
Everyone talks about the toxic romantic relationship traits of bpd and rightfully so, they're demons that can ruin your life but also bpd friendships are tiresome. Since they have no identity, they latch into yours and you either end up with a copycat friend, who also copies your career or you have this shifting person that you can end up "not knowing" from one day to the other. yes, different people can be friends, but in the span of 2 years I saw a friend of mine going under at least 5-6 personality phases where she was first a green vegan girl, then a blonde bombshell, then she was a tif with a typical fujo persona (no male is like that), with a clumsy and nerdy guy and she talked about herself with male pronouns, then now she's a cybergoth. It's tiring and the first time I thought I lost "my dear friend" and I went into mourning, then I realize that she was an empty shell and my friend was never there. It's tiring, is like having to do with multiple moody teenagers all at once and I'm tired of that shit, I have shit to do, and I want to relax when I'm with friends and all of her arguments were about herself and her journey about discovering herself, when there's no self to discover and the biggest joke is that she is capable to hold this facade at work. She knows that if she gets moody at work, people can fire her and yet doesn't get why she's losing friends one by one. I distanced myself from her by clearly saying that I find difficult to relate and talk with people very different than me and I don't like walking on the eggshells for the trigger of the month and yet she cannot understand. Not my problem and yes, I can be envious of her mask when she holds a job properly (I can't because I have a very confrontational attitude and I don't get shit from moids kek but this only at work, I don't take it seriously as long it makes me survive) but I cannot imagine how her head feels like various circles of hell overlapping and getting the high of getting obsessed with new thing over and over. Failed people, wasted existence.
No. 2407512
>>2385753>Facebook, email and phoneThe snoop thread has a lot of resources that will help you find a ton of info on your brother using his email and phone.
If you want to be more involved in the psyop, here's how:
Make a fake Facebook account that has none of your real information, make it on whatever device you don't normally access Facebook on and use a VPN just in case. Go on your brother's profile to see what he's posted and to see his friends. He might have some information there about his interests and where else he hangs out online.
Then go to his friends' profiles. See what they're interested in. If you go back far enough on their Facebooks you can probably find their usernames for other sites- find those accounts.
Then you google his friends. Look up where they live, what jobs they have, what income bracket they're in, and what their other socials are. This will give you a better idea of what they might respond well to, eg if they're all in shitty jobs, they might respond well to finance bros; if they live somewhere prone to flooding, they might follow someone who posts tips about flooding and insurance. Then you tailor your online persona to fit their interests.
You're going to want to make burner accounts on all the sites they hang out on, and focus your attention on the ones they spend the most time on. Start posting about things that interest them at the same times they tend to be online. Chances are you'll interact with one of your brother's friends or your brother. Don't exclusively interact with them, make sure you talk to a bunch of other similar users, you want to look legit.
Then, when you're buddies with them, you can start posting the stuff that's tailor made to bother your brother.
Always link your retarded posts back to some source that looks credible, ideally one that you know your brother trusts. Don't go full schizo, always tie your concerns back to something kind of normal. Like, if you post about poop particles being transmitted to vehicle seats via farts, also post about how you always knew public transport was filthy, and say that you clean your own truck seats every morning and night to make sure the seats are free from turds. This might prompt your brother to spend more time outside with his truck, and he'll punish you by making you use public transport (which he probably won't use himself, so he won't accompany you). This will give you a bit more freedom, especially if you get a job.
Don't feel bad about his eating habits, he deserves it. Maybe post about ultra processed foods being more efficient to digest and all the concern around them being nothing more than a psyop engineered by women to make men less virile.
If you're worried that your brother can hear you typing, write out some posts on a word document and copy paste them when you want to post. Choose a distant city to live in, post about the weather there, the local news, local places, anything to make you look like you live somewhere completely different (but in the same timezone). Be the chad that your brother wants to become. Talk about how moving out made you lose 800lbs and get a stunning wife who never disagrees with you. Be firm in your convictions that moving out of state is what made you into the rich successful married man you are today. Talk about how you're highly respected at work. Brag about how you never ask any women about their unimportant lives, it takes up too much valuable space in your brain that could be used to make money. Insinuate that any man who's still living at home with female relatives is in this sad state because he cares about their lives too much. Your brother will eventually get the hint.
No. 2408139
>>2383065that was my former friend - she thinks she's psychic, calls herself an empath, the whole nine yards. Turned out to be a lying, manipulative POS. They're all the fucking same. They feed into these delusions of themselves until they believe it.
>>2383222I was also in a relationship with a male bippie and he was a huge piece of shit just like you described. God forbid I ever reduced him to the label of hyper-controlling ugly piece of trash, but he had no problem calling me a "baby" when I was sad (I barely cried in front of that man, when I did I was punished for having feelings), no problem telling me I was a terrible pet owner because I worried about my cat too much, and he had no problem making up stories like "You never took out the trash, I always had to do it" when I ALWAYS took out the trash (I had to beg this man to brush his teeth at one point, yes I'm a retard, that's why he's an ex) and there were a FEW times I asked him to bring it down to the block for me, usually when he was at home jerking off and not working. They're absolutely insane - incapable of even fully realizing themselves, let alone others around them.
>>2384400My ex friend posted some huge passive aggressive series of posts on social media about how she needs someone who isn't going to just "throw her away" and needs someone on her "healing journey". Stupid bitch with main character syndrome, she thinks that I was supposed to just let her threaten suicide and have a toddler-sized tantrum over something so insignificant, barrel into her room, cry loudly for 20+ minutes, and then have the audacity to rant at me because I didn't reassure her that I wasn't mad at her? She needed me to just be her stupid punching bag, and there was no end to it. THe shit I did to make this stupid bitch 'comfortable' earns me a psych ward stay, or at least an increase in my SSRI.
No. 2409224
tl;dr I fed rabbits, food went too close to moids truck hes obsessed with guarding, cant move rabbit food due to dangerous ice, now I fear his reaction.
Cant sleep because my moid brother is banging stuff, opening/closing doors dozens of times, maybe panicking? How will I ever get a job when he keeps me awake?
I fed the rabbits the other day, by throwing pieces of vegetables out far away from our home. I did so because we had a lot of snow, so I thought rabbits/other animals had a scarce food supply. Big mistake, with this moid around!
Usually mom says this is ok to do, as long as none lands near her precious moids trucks, but she wasnt there at the time and I did it anyway. What a rebel I am lol.
So the last veg pieces I threw blew in the wind, towards my brothers truck canopy. Theres snow on top of ice, so I didnt go out and move these veg pieces, plus in doing so I would leave snow tracks, and hed freak out about that. The day before I fed rabbits, he said as long as animals "dont cause trouble"/ruin his truck, then theyre welcome in his canopy, yet its the coldest temps here. What a nice guy! Yet he openly laughs that his dog pees/craps in my veg garden on the food that I planted.
Basically my brother obsessively monitors, incl with a camera inside the canopy, any "suspicious" activity near his trucks which he obv cares about more than his family. There was a time when he freaked out upon finding construction materials nearby his truck, despite construction happening on our street. For a few days, him and mom were nuts, threatening "whoever did it" with disgusting violent fantasies, when this place wasnt eerily silent. I thought he would take it out on someone here, but he didnt thankfully. Even when he finds things like feathers near his truck, he asks me "who put it there". He thinks someone puts stuff to attract rodents, so rodents can go inside and ruin his trucks.
Im afraid he will find the veg pieces soon, as he just said theres rabbit tracks all around it, maybe he will check it out. I have an event that I have to go to soon, that he might ruin/cause drama. He might accuse me of leaving food near his trucks "on purpose", making mom turn against me too. Im so afraid Ill get accused of the other stuff he found near his trucks, when its got nothing to do with me.
Besides gray rocking, what can I do, if he panics, runs up/down the stairs repeatedly telling mom what he found, shouting, is hostile, etc? Its all so ridiculous, but this is my reality.
Not sure if others can relate to dealing with whatever mental disorder this moid has? I hardly see examples of similar situations, but Im sure they exist.
>>2407512Same nonna here, randomly checked this thread to find your response. I truly appreciate the level of detail you went into, with examples, and everything. Thank you. Ive updated with more recent stuff above.
No. 2410371
>>2410235It’s the same with anything. Moids get even a little of it and they’re whining all the fucking time about it. Women suffer from migraines much more (actual, neurological migraines), and men won’t shut the fuck up if they get a little headache. Women get severely depressed a lot more (hormones + we live in a moid society), and men get a little depressed and they won’t shut the fuck up about it. They love being
victims.
No. 2410654
The night before I had a medical appointment, my older brother just had to make noise all the way til the morning. Then I hear him laugh when the dog starts barking in the morning, which he let happen for a while. Meanwhile when brothers sleeping, myself or mom rush to calm down the dog to not wake him.
I got a few hours sleep. I come down to get food. Guess who randomly walks in from outside? Right off the bat, my brother asks me annoying questions, like if I just woke up. Despite having his own 2 vehicles, he takes the car I was using near the appointment time, so he can get coffee.
I get back from the medical appointment, and just want to lay down. Nope! My brothers using power tools for some pointless truck modification. Surprisingly, mom eventually told him to stop and he did.
Later, just because my brother eavesdropped and heard me saying "I hope I can sleep tonight" to mom, when asking her to tell him to not do the noisy things he did that prevented me from sleeping – he is being eerily quiet and acting depressed. Hes the type to never forget any tiny thing he thinks was mean to him, seething about it for years, with anger issues ofc.
RN hes playing the victim. He does this everytime I set a tiny boundary, as a prelude to his reaction – to turn the entire family against me over this. He whines again to mom who will take his side, as if Im a mean person who "hates them" – mom likes to also accuse me of hating her too, when he does this. This reaction of his is my punishment for setting boundaries. How dare I want to sleep!
What mental disorder is he displaying, besides being an XY? What can I do, when the inevitable boymom/coddled brother turn everyone against me, as if Im evil for not wanting him to keep me awake?
No. 2412092
>>2411920Ayrt, could be
considering I have it myself diagnosed and it's apparently genetic kek. Or something under that umbrella.